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00:01:34.120 Welcome to the Culture War Podcast.

00:02:02.200 We're going to be talking about men, dating, masculinity, marriage, and we've got a couple

00:02:08.160 of really interesting gentlemen hanging out to have this discussion.

00:02:11.000 Of course, we got Fresh and Fit.

00:02:12.640 Do you guys want to introduce yourselves?

00:02:13.780 Woo, let's go.

00:02:15.100 Fresh and Fit, one of the most controversial podcasts on the internet.

00:02:18.540 We talk about a bunch of things, whether it's making money, how to date properly in a modern

00:02:22.400 day world, getting in shape, getting your fitness on point, and just becoming a better

00:02:26.520 man in general.

00:02:27.320 The number one male self-improvement podcast in the world.

00:02:29.460 Let's go.

00:02:30.200 Well, who are you guys individually?

00:02:31.280 Oh, Myron Gaines, former special agent of Homeland Security Investigations.

00:02:35.280 I did that for approximately 10 years, then transitioned over to the content creation

00:02:39.240 side, had a fitness business, and then I realized, wow, guys need help with getting girls as well.

00:02:44.140 So we kind of encompassed all of that and helped guys become better so that they could become

00:02:48.560 more attractive and just live the life that they want.

00:02:50.300 Right on.

00:02:50.740 And I'm Fresh, Fresh Prince CEO, Island Boy from a small island, came here with big dreams,

00:02:55.360 started a podcast with Myron, about dating, lifestyle, success, and now we're here today

00:02:58.820 on TimCast.

00:02:59.520 Right on.

00:03:00.020 We got Jason Howerton hanging out.

00:03:01.400 Grab that mic, buddy.

00:03:02.360 Yes, sir.

00:03:03.720 Yeah.

00:03:04.120 What's up?

00:03:04.460 I'm Jason.

00:03:05.140 I am the opposite of you guys.

00:03:08.040 I'm a boring dad business owner who really, my family is my life.

00:03:16.080 I run a business, a digital agency where I do pretty well working with creators and influencers.

00:03:20.560 And then I also have a high value dad, which is basically a network trying to help dads become

00:03:26.240 better, burdensome themselves as dads, as leaders in their businesses, all that kind of

00:03:30.880 stuff.

00:03:31.340 And so that's really my mission right now, even more so than the business, is really

00:03:37.220 trying to help fathers discover kind of who they are and who they need to be to be the

00:03:42.760 best leaders for their families.

00:03:43.880 Because people get off track in this modern society.

00:03:50.160 So there is some overlap, but I would say our philosophies are a little different, but

00:03:53.680 I'm excited about it.

00:03:54.820 Well, let's get right into it, man.

00:03:57.060 We keep hearing about men being in crisis.

00:03:59.820 Young men, this is an interesting point.

00:04:02.120 There was this data that came out a few years ago that shows men under 30 are increasingly

00:04:06.720 staying virgins.

00:04:08.360 They're not having sex.

00:04:09.440 Now, the funny thing about that is I was talking to Seamus Coughlin and he, when I brought

00:04:15.680 this up, he's Christian, conservative, very Catholic.

00:04:18.060 He goes, based.

00:04:19.280 And I was like, based?

00:04:21.020 And he's like, because on the surface, it's like, oh, young men not having sex is a good

00:04:25.860 thing.

00:04:26.060 And I'm like, no, no, no, no.

00:04:27.400 The Christian conservative perspective should be it's a bad thing.

00:04:30.700 The liberal perspective should be it's a bad thing.

00:04:32.540 And the conservative view should be these men should be married and they should not be

00:04:36.700 virgin.

00:04:36.900 They should be married with a wife and having children.

00:04:38.980 And they're 29 years old and they've never had a real relationship.

00:04:42.460 So just in general, outside of that, we see all this stuff, toxic masculinity.

00:04:47.280 We hear stories about men in crisis.

00:04:48.600 Suicide rates are going way, way up.

00:04:51.620 Whoever wants to kick it off, what's going on and why is there an issue with men right

00:04:56.040 now?

00:04:57.700 You want to kick it off first?

00:04:59.200 I mean, for the most part, guys nowadays want to have a lifestyle where they have women,

00:05:04.140 of course, you know, the cars, you know, the job, the career.

00:05:07.600 But for the most part, guys nowadays are struggling because girls, once again, want a dominant, successful

00:05:13.480 guy that has their shit together.

00:05:16.180 But men, I guess, for the most part are kind of like subduing to, I want to say, the TV

00:05:21.020 stations that they watch, you know, what they hear on the radio waves, what they see in like, you

00:05:24.700 know, movies.

00:05:25.260 And it's more like men are not becoming men like they should be.

00:05:28.040 And you could blame it on technology, social media, whatever you want to blame it on.

00:05:32.300 Men are not becoming men.

00:05:33.660 Women are becoming more masculine.

00:05:34.920 And I feel like for the most part, you look at women today, they're in school, getting

00:05:39.100 careers, getting high paying jobs, and they want a man that's more dominant than them.

00:05:43.220 And men today are not that.

00:05:44.400 So that's what I'm saying.

00:05:45.080 Yeah.

00:05:45.180 What do you think, Jason?

00:05:46.440 I have a question.

00:05:47.700 Can you, just for the context of this conversation, can you define what you like?

00:05:52.060 What is a man?

00:05:53.080 Like, what is it like the ideal man?

00:05:55.400 What does that look like?

00:05:56.220 Adult human male.

00:05:57.380 But now that we understand the basic, what does it mean to be a man in the philosophical sense,

00:06:02.900 I guess?

00:06:03.240 Correct.

00:06:03.500 Yeah.

00:06:03.800 I think most people can define it a different way, but I would say what a man is to me is

00:06:07.440 a man that has family as a main priority, has as well a good stance on, for example,

00:06:14.260 having a foundation of success, which means monetary gain.

00:06:17.540 And then I would say as well, has the integrity and leadership skills that most people want

00:06:21.720 to have.

00:06:22.420 Okay.

00:06:22.780 Yeah, that's fair.

00:06:23.760 And so, okay.

00:06:24.560 So this is what I would say, is that for men today, they're getting a lot of conflicting

00:06:30.380 messages on what they should be doing, right?

00:06:34.840 You have one faction that is telling them that their masculinity is toxic, that it's sexist

00:06:40.380 to open doors for a woman and all these things that equally as bad.

00:06:43.720 And then there's kind of another faction that is telling them a couple of different conflicting

00:06:49.140 messages.

00:06:49.460 One is to abstain from doing some of the things that traditionally are masculine, like being

00:06:59.000 aggressive in your career, growing as a professional.

00:07:03.100 And then there's another faction that says, I'm just going to be blunt about it, for lack

00:07:08.680 of a better way to phrase it, like get money and get money and bang bitches basically is

00:07:13.780 like, that's kind of like the, what I see across the internet of this, this masculinity.

00:07:18.920 I mean, that's a good start though.

00:07:19.940 Okay.

00:07:21.200 Wouldn't you say?

00:07:23.540 Get money is a good start.

00:07:25.620 If, if you're, if you're trying to build a foundation for yourself as, as a man, absolutely.

00:07:30.400 I, I would, I would argue with the bang bitches part, not, not like, okay.

00:07:34.920 I'm not here to be the, the Puritan at all.

00:07:37.320 I'm not like the morality police saying sex is bad or like, don't have sex with women.

00:07:40.720 Not at all.

00:07:41.380 What I'm saying, what I'm saying is that when you become a man, when you you're out of college

00:07:46.320 and you, you need to start charting your path to become a functioning man in society.

00:07:51.560 And, and ideally you want to be a high value man, right?

00:07:54.220 You want to become something of substance.

00:07:57.160 Your goal should be to meet and, and, and engage with women in a, in a healthy way.

00:08:04.220 And if that results in, you know, mutual sexual behavior, great.

00:08:08.700 Do your thing.

00:08:09.820 But in my opinion, in your head, you should know that what you're working towards is to

00:08:16.320 build a family because there is, I don't think you even become a man in the real sense until

00:08:25.640 you have a family.

00:08:26.960 It changes you in ways that I can't really even describe.

00:08:29.800 Like it, it, it, it turns you into a different version of yourself to where your entire life,

00:08:36.800 you're focused internally on, on what you want and, and, and chasing pleasure and chasing,

00:08:42.680 you know, various things.

00:08:44.300 When you have a family, it completely flips that inside out and you become a selfless protector

00:08:50.660 provider of your clan.

00:08:52.740 And so dating should be in pursuit of that.

00:08:56.620 I'm not saying it should happen instantly.

00:08:58.560 Maybe it takes you five years of dating and maybe a lot of sex happens and it's great.

00:09:02.000 Like sex is great.

00:09:02.740 It's fun.

00:09:03.220 It's, it's cool.

00:09:04.360 But this idea that, that you, you know, get it out of your system and you just have sex with

00:09:10.720 a bunch of women as you're, you know, figuring out what you want to be in your life, I think

00:09:16.300 is a, is more dangerous than people think from, from a, from a brain chemistry standpoint, what

00:09:21.760 you're kind of training yourself to become long-term.

00:09:25.900 I don't think people think about those implications.

00:09:29.740 So, okay.

00:09:32.440 So let me be very clear.

00:09:34.240 I think the family is the cornerstone of every thriving society.

00:09:38.360 Nuclear family is absolutely needed.

00:09:40.120 We believe in a nuclear family.

00:09:41.760 We don't tell people to not pursue a nuclear family.

00:09:43.700 However, pursuing a nuclear family in today's day and age without prerequisite experience

00:09:48.700 is extremely dangerous given what you're up against.

00:09:51.680 So we tell guys is, cause you asked earlier, what does a man, I think obviously duty, purpose,

00:09:56.740 leadership, strength, integrity, and the ability to provision.

00:09:59.680 Right.

00:10:00.200 And when you have all these traits together, you're going to be a good, you could be a good

00:10:03.840 father.

00:10:04.320 But what I want guys is to be in a position where they've experienced women, they understand

00:10:08.920 women, and now they're coming to that choice on their own.

00:10:11.600 Right.

00:10:12.000 And they're deciding to do that versus being forced into it, pressured into it, et cetera,

00:10:15.700 because the things that were in place before to make family an appealable pursuit for a

00:10:21.740 majority of men are no longer there.

00:10:23.280 I'll explain what I mean by this.

00:10:24.960 Thanks to feminism, social media, the modern day world that we have now, where we live in

00:10:29.640 what I call a Uber eats type society, where instant gratification is a thing.

00:10:33.900 Women have changed and women have changed significantly.

00:10:36.500 Not only have they changed, they've changed to a point where it's no longer in their best

00:10:41.500 interest to stay within the confinements of a marriage.

00:10:44.540 Now, even though I believe in marriage, right?

00:10:46.740 Contrary to popular belief, people think that we just tell guys to run around and have sex

00:10:49.340 with women.

00:10:49.940 No, we tell them have sex with women so that you're in a position to pick the best woman,

00:10:54.200 because unfortunately, most women don't come pre-assembled.

00:10:57.100 Back in the 1950s, et cetera, we had religion.

00:11:00.220 We had society shame.

00:11:01.620 We had the fear of God, et cetera.

00:11:03.880 All these things were training wills that kept women in line to be good, dutiful mothers,

00:11:08.540 daughters, sisters, et cetera.

00:11:10.220 But these conventions are gone.

00:11:12.040 What do we have now?

00:11:12.880 We have a modern day society where we tell women to be promiscuous.

00:11:15.340 We tell women to go get your bag, girl.

00:11:16.940 We tell women to go on OnlyFans.

00:11:18.360 We tell women to make money by any means necessary, regardless of if it destroys their image.

00:11:23.180 So what I'm saying is that I need guys to adapt to the new normal.

00:11:26.900 And that's why I tell guys, hey, you have to have certain things in place.

00:11:30.000 And I think a guy shouldn't even think about getting serious with women unless he's had

00:11:32.860 sex with at least 50 partners.

00:11:34.140 Now, even though that sounds crazy, the reason why I say that is because women nowadays are

00:11:38.140 more promiscuous than ever before.

00:11:39.540 And if a guy isn't in a position to be able to identify women that are worthy of a serious

00:11:43.460 relationship, well, he's going to get taken to the cleaners because most women have more

00:11:47.020 experience with options gender than men do.

00:11:49.140 If I told you you have a boxing match in five years and your opponent is going to be training

00:11:53.560 every single day and knocking people out, would you train or would you just sit in the house

00:11:57.600 lethargic?

00:11:58.160 You'd probably train, correct?

00:11:59.480 But what most guys effectively do is they sit in the house.

00:12:01.900 They don't go out there and talk to more women.

00:12:03.380 They don't understand female nature.

00:12:04.480 They don't know how the world really works when it comes to dating and intersexual dynamics.

00:12:07.240 They go into that boxing match with that person that's been training for a while and they

00:12:10.660 get beat up.

00:12:11.200 Why do they get beat up?

00:12:11.920 Because women get training.

00:12:13.980 What I mean by this is experience with opposite gender.

00:12:15.840 As soon as they hit puberty, men are hitting at them all the time.

00:12:18.560 Men are telling them how to, men are trying to court them, et cetera.

00:12:21.220 So women become very good at figuring out what the opposite gender wants, leveraging

00:12:24.880 that to their advantage and able to extract resources, time, attention, et cetera.

00:12:28.320 And most guys don't have the skills to deal with that.

00:12:30.080 I'll clarify one point.

00:12:30.860 You said in today's day and age, it is no longer in the best interest of women to get

00:12:36.320 married.

00:12:37.440 But I think...

00:12:38.600 No, to keep the marriage going.

00:12:40.460 But just a semantic point, right?

00:12:44.240 Because I think I understand what you're saying.

00:12:45.980 It absolutely is in the best interest of men and women to have a marriage going, but society

00:12:50.560 pressures women in other ways and offers them...

00:12:52.700 They're rewarded.

00:12:53.440 Yeah, there's certain rewards like OnlyFans, which I'll just come out and say, like, OnlyFans

00:12:58.520 is prostitution.

00:12:59.440 It's just the digital version of modern prostitution.

00:13:01.720 Yeah.

00:13:02.180 It's one thing to say that there's, like, porn on the internet.

00:13:04.320 Yeah.

00:13:04.720 So, you know, someone does that.

00:13:05.920 You know, people have made the argument it's digital prostitution, but there's no actual

00:13:09.500 engagement between the individual.

00:13:11.260 OnlyFans, literally, you...

00:13:12.560 Like, the men will message the woman who provide a menu of items.

00:13:15.980 And then they will then pay the woman specifically to engage in an act.

00:13:20.200 Like, that's prostitution.

00:13:22.220 And I just want to say real quick, like, I gave a very overall and general sense of what's

00:13:26.580 going on in the dating marketplace and intersectional.

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00:14:53.820 The dynamics between the two genders.

00:14:57.720 I'm happy to go into each one more specifically.

00:14:59.660 But what I meant in that regard was women are not incentivized to keep the marriage going.

00:15:03.560 Once they reach a certain threshold, maybe five years, 10 years, depending on the state.

00:15:06.400 Well, it's cheaper for me to just like, or I'm going to be in a better situation if I

00:15:10.140 divorce him, get the money, leave, get the child support, get the alimony, whatever it

00:15:14.300 may be.

00:15:14.740 So women don't have the same incentives that they used to have to keep marriages going.

00:15:19.200 That's why women initiate 80% of divorces in the West.

00:15:22.540 Okay.

00:15:22.620 So, so part of my issue is a lot of this is we're speaking in generalizations, right?

00:15:28.020 Of course.

00:15:28.440 So like, and I think, sure.

00:15:30.420 But I think just like anything else, I think your experiences or your, your opinions are based

00:15:35.360 on your experiences and what you've learned throughout your life.

00:15:38.180 And, and I, I would push back to say, at least telling men as a general rule, that those

00:15:45.100 things are true.

00:15:46.040 I don't think you're doing them justice because specifically, well, number one, that, that

00:15:51.940 women are not, you know, there are not women out there who, who are incentivized to like

00:15:56.460 when you, when you build a family with a woman and when you, and it should be very selective,

00:16:01.180 you should be very, very careful of who you decide to start a family.

00:16:04.200 But that's my whole purpose is to say most women are not necessarily going to be in that

00:16:07.420 position to be worthy of a relationship.

00:16:09.320 So you have to be extremely selective because girls, it doesn't require 50, you to sleep

00:16:13.440 as 50 women to get to that point.

00:16:15.180 But okay.

00:16:16.020 Like, let's say that's a lot of people.

00:16:17.580 That is a lot of women to sleep with.

00:16:20.120 60.

00:16:20.940 Okay.

00:16:21.320 And then also.

00:16:21.920 We don't know.

00:16:22.440 So generally speaking, 50.

00:16:23.820 It could be five.

00:16:24.420 Let me, let me clarify.

00:16:25.260 When I say 50, I'm not saying you're at, at, you know, 41.

00:16:28.660 Hey, you found the right one.

00:16:30.120 Hey man.

00:16:30.680 No, you still got to do nine more, dude.

00:16:32.180 You got to keep going.

00:16:33.060 Like that's not a steadfast number.

00:16:34.700 But what I am saying is in general, right?

00:16:37.120 50 is going to put you in a position.

00:16:38.500 What I'm more, more interested in for the guy is to have the correct mindset to assess

00:16:43.340 female character and to understand female nature.

00:16:45.700 And I know at around 50, you have some semblance of how women move.

00:16:48.840 Because the thing is, is that a lot of guys don't understand that men and women are really

00:16:53.120 different in how they approach relationships, how they view the world, how they deal with their

00:16:56.600 emotions, et cetera.

00:16:57.500 Most guys think women are like guys.

00:16:59.220 They're not.

00:16:59.760 They're completely different.

00:17:00.620 And I want guys to have an understanding, a fundamental understanding of female nature

00:17:04.780 before they get into something as serious as a marriage where the woman can absolutely

00:17:07.780 destroy them because she has all the cards once you're married.

00:17:10.000 But you don't need to have sex for that.

00:17:11.520 That's what I'm saying.

00:17:12.420 Well, like, okay.

00:17:13.760 Oh, good.

00:17:14.280 Once again, when it comes to dating, right, it involves everything.

00:17:18.060 And sex is a big component on some level.

00:17:19.820 Because if you think about it, when does it really start?

00:17:22.340 You meet a girl, you go on a date, you have an experience, but that ends with what?

00:17:26.380 The result is sex because you want to procreate.

00:17:28.420 So ultimately, that's a big component of your relationship.

00:17:31.220 Now, if you don't have that in place and that doesn't happen, are you really dating that

00:17:34.440 person?

00:17:35.140 You're not.

00:17:35.920 So that is important.

00:17:37.360 The other thing, too, is the reason why I want guys to have that sex is because for

00:17:40.720 men to be good with women and to pick the right girl, they need to have something, what

00:17:44.140 I call an abundance mindset.

00:17:45.720 And we don't have an abundance mindset and you're operating from a scarcity mindset.

00:17:48.960 Any girl that throws you sex or gives you some type of intimacy, you're going to be like,

00:17:51.800 oh, I'm going to commit to her.

00:17:53.020 So I want guys to know what it's like to already have had sex with women.

00:17:56.640 Understand that it's not that special.

00:17:58.020 I need them to get desensitized to it to a degree where they're able to assess the woman

00:18:01.760 on her character versus her sexuality.

00:18:04.040 So many guys make the carnal mistake of she's hot.

00:18:06.980 She's great in bed.

00:18:07.780 I'm going to commit to her.

00:18:08.820 Not knowing that she's crazy.

00:18:10.460 She's not a good candidate for a long-term relationship and they get taken to the cleaners.

00:18:14.500 So I just want guys to have an abundance mindset.

00:18:16.380 And a lot of times when a guy isn't sexually experienced with a girl, it's sexually experienced.

00:18:19.440 It comes back to what I said before.

00:18:20.860 If you're going to go into that boxing ring with someone that's been training for the past

00:18:23.900 10 years and they know how to deal with the outside gender and you don't, well, she's

00:18:26.420 going to finesse you.

00:18:26.980 She's going to say all the right things.

00:18:27.940 Oh my God, I've never felt like this before with a guy.

00:18:29.740 You're not going to know how to defend against that.

00:18:31.760 When you don't have the same sexual experience as a woman, you have to understand that, that

00:18:35.080 the advice that you're giving, you can be nuanced with it on a long form podcast like

00:18:39.740 this, but the advice that you're giving most men are going to, going to internalize that

00:18:44.100 and think, especially young men, that the goal is sex.

00:18:48.980 Like that's, that's the tunnel vision goal is to have sex with a lot of women.

00:18:53.580 Like that's, that's what we need to do.

00:18:55.800 And so I don't know if you've ever thought about what happens from a brain chemistry standpoint

00:19:02.940 when you have something as high, something with as extreme of a, a dopamine response

00:19:11.600 as sex, when that becomes your primary driving factor of, of what you're trying to accomplish.

00:19:16.480 Um, and you know, say you, you accomplish that repeatedly over years and you know, say over

00:19:23.040 five years, your, your goal is to meet as many women and have sex with as many women as possible.

00:19:27.360 But that's the end of the goal.

00:19:28.520 Like I want to meet women.

00:19:30.040 I want to learn how to engage with women.

00:19:31.500 I want to have sex with women.

00:19:32.860 What you're doing is you're training your brain from a, from a, you can't get past this.

00:19:39.120 It's this, you could, you could replace this with anything.

00:19:41.060 You replace it with cocaine, you can replace it with any addictive behavior of what happens

00:19:46.040 in the brain.

00:19:46.900 It's going to imprint on your brain, that behavior, that when you engage in that behavior

00:19:51.600 and that pursuit, you're going to get this big, once you finally achieve it, this big

00:19:56.700 dopamine spike, big, big, big, and then you're going to get a big dopamine crash below baseline.

00:20:02.760 And over time, what you're doing is you're training your brain and, and you really, at some

00:20:08.780 point it's more subconscious than anything else, that that is the pursuit that you must

00:20:13.340 engage in to get that feeling, whatever you want to call it.

00:20:16.900 That feeling of, of, of accomplishment of, of, of what you would think is happiness, which

00:20:21.720 is not happiness.

00:20:22.340 It's fleeting happiness, but that becomes then the pattern that is imprinted on your brain.

00:20:28.080 And to get out of that, that I'm talking about neural pathways that, that, that bond very

00:20:33.760 strongly.

00:20:34.180 And to get out of that, you have to physically rewire your brain.

00:20:37.560 And so my concern with this advice is that by the time the men are ready to settle down,

00:20:44.020 to have kids, to be the best, what I think I'll die on this hill, being a dad and having

00:20:50.200 a family, there's nothing in the world that will ever be as, as, um, satisfying or, or give

00:20:58.040 you the feeling of accomplishment and purpose in your life, period.

00:21:00.860 I'll die on that hill every day.

00:21:02.180 And by the time they're ready to do that, in order for them to, to get into that state

00:21:07.440 and not still be in this cycle of needing to, to get that, that dopamine hit that they've

00:21:13.240 been trained to get over years and years, um, you have to rewire your entire brain and

00:21:18.120 that takes time.

00:21:18.840 And it's hard.

00:21:19.420 It's trust me, it's hard.

00:21:21.060 It's really hard to do.

00:21:22.340 And so that results, in my opinion, that's infidelity in marriages, it's divorces, it's

00:21:29.800 fatherless homes, which then creates a whole nother cycle over and over again of this same

00:21:35.720 cycle of chasing pleasure over purpose.

00:21:40.900 If you're chasing purpose and along the way you're having sex and meeting women and becoming

00:21:44.720 good with women, but your purpose is focused.

00:21:48.100 And, and it almost feels like you're almost there, but I, there's just some parts of it

00:21:52.380 that I don't fully agree with, but that's the secret.

00:21:55.360 Like it has to be driven.

00:21:56.960 Yeah.

00:21:57.240 I want to bring something up, but you make a very good point.

00:21:59.260 And I understand that, but I could argue as well.

00:22:02.500 If I stick with one woman, one woman, right?

00:22:04.360 Multiple times I want to say during a period of like a relationship, isn't that the same

00:22:08.300 thing?

00:22:08.980 And as well, let's say it's not the same thing.

00:22:11.480 Why?

00:22:12.160 Because it's, it's, you're, you're pair bonding, you're, it's, it's not, you're, you're

00:22:17.040 in, you're pair bonding and you're building a relationship unless you're, you know, you're

00:22:21.900 just using them for sex.

00:22:22.940 Then it's, yeah, sure.

00:22:23.960 Maybe it's the same thing.

00:22:24.740 But if you're with a person and you have an intention of building a life with that person

00:22:28.940 and you're pair bonding and you're learning how to communicate effectively and you're doing

00:22:32.900 all the things to build yourself up as to become the leader of a family and the leader

00:22:38.480 of that unit, it's not the same thing.

00:22:40.080 So I'm with that person, but I don't know from experience if she's good for me or not.

00:22:44.820 And as a result, I made that choice not knowing.

00:22:47.160 So I'll ask you a question, right?

00:22:48.560 When you go to buy a car, I'm not saying a woman, a car, give me an example here.

00:22:51.620 When you go to buy a car, right?

00:22:52.860 What do you do first when you buy the car?

00:22:54.540 You go to your salesman, talk to him about the car, test drive it, and you go buy it.

00:22:58.800 I'm just saying for most men, sex is a goal, but not the NLB goal.

00:23:03.720 It's a part of the equation.

00:23:05.700 I'm just saying have that as a part of your repertoire.

00:23:07.260 So when you meet the woman, all right, sex is good.

00:23:10.140 She's good as a person, as an individual, good family, good to be a mother.

00:23:14.480 All right, full package.

00:23:16.040 I have a choice here that this is a good woman for me.

00:23:19.440 That's what we're saying here.

00:23:20.300 I'm not saying that that's the end goal, be all.

00:23:21.700 And for you to be able to come to that rationally sound and logically sound conclusion that this

00:23:27.060 girl is the right one, you have had to have dealt with a bunch of women that might have

00:23:30.740 not been the right one.

00:23:31.640 And what I'm saying is that in today's day and age, most women are not worthy of a long-term

00:23:36.700 relationship.

00:23:37.200 So guys need to be able to vet women correctly.

00:23:40.200 Otherwise, they're the ones that take all the risks.

00:23:41.800 So I get what you're saying where you're saying like, hey, this might be destructive, but sex

00:23:44.680 doesn't affect men the same way it affects women with pair bonding and having high partners.

00:23:48.240 There's plenty of guys that can go ahead, have a bunch of women, and then go ahead and decide,

00:23:52.640 you know what?

00:23:52.900 I want to settle down now because at the end of the day, men are the ones that pick who they commit

00:23:56.200 to.

00:23:56.380 Which is not true.

00:23:57.140 Like you're true.

00:23:58.420 You're right about the pair bonding aspect, but it's not true from a brain chemistry standpoint.

00:24:02.220 When you, it's, it's just science.

00:24:04.720 And I, like, I wish like Andrew Huberman was here.

00:24:06.940 He could explain it much better than I can, but like, you can't get away from the brain

00:24:11.040 mechanisms of what I'm talking about.

00:24:12.760 When you are casual sex, that is, that is not based in a relationship.

00:24:18.540 You're just, you have sex with a woman tonight.

00:24:20.580 You have sex with a woman tomorrow night, whatever.

00:24:22.460 And I'm sure you guys do really well.

00:24:23.880 You're wealthy guys.

00:24:25.060 You're good looking guys.

00:24:25.820 Like, I'm sure you guys clean up well, but like, but that behavior, it, it is high, really

00:24:36.980 extreme dopamine behavior.

00:24:38.760 I understand that.

00:24:39.380 Okay.

00:24:39.700 And that, I understand promiscuity can affect both genders negatively.

00:24:42.900 I understand that.

00:24:43.720 So, so let me, I want to address this because I agree on the, you're, you're better off not

00:24:50.260 being as promiscuous.

00:24:51.000 I understand what you guys are saying though.

00:24:53.100 And I think, I'm curious.

00:24:55.560 It sounds like you guys are saying, Hey, this is the way the world is.

00:24:57.460 You have to adapt to it.

00:24:58.220 Yeah.

00:24:58.700 And your view is more like, no, no, no, we should not be engaging in these things.

00:25:01.860 But let me show you this graphic from the Washington Post.

00:25:04.480 First, this is a, this is an article that has been around for some time.

00:25:08.420 Young men driving the decline in sex, share of men and women between the ages of 18 and

00:25:12.380 30 reporting no sex in the past.

00:25:14.960 It's 28% of men, 18% of women, and that skyrockets that, that, that, that deviation really comes

00:25:22.240 into effect around 2009, 2010.

00:25:25.020 I think the internet plays a big role in this.

00:25:27.060 Huge.

00:25:27.740 First, there's something to be said about this.

00:25:30.820 Men and women have to have sex with each other for the most part.

00:25:33.540 If men are not having sex at all, and women are having sex, obviously there's a point to

00:25:37.980 be made about maybe the women are having sex with each other or something like that.

00:25:40.200 But I, I don't think that's a large component of what we're seeing here.

00:25:42.460 I think the issue is the women mostly are still having sex at comparable levels to what

00:25:47.560 they've always done.

00:25:48.540 Men not having sex is skyrocketing.

00:25:51.260 That's, that says that these women, they're having sex with a particular group of men and

00:25:58.000 a boom.

00:25:59.020 So, right.

00:25:59.360 So, so here's what I think.

00:26:00.740 I think a portion of men are being slowly removed from the dating pool.

00:26:06.660 Women are maintaining the amount of sex they've always had.

00:26:09.160 Yep.

00:26:09.380 That, that's an interesting social dynamic.

00:26:10.980 Absolutely.

00:26:11.540 That's huge.

00:26:11.940 And, and, and that plays a huge role.

00:26:14.660 I'm really glad you brought this up because that plays a huge role as to what women think

00:26:19.900 they deserve.

00:26:20.640 So, unfortunately, a woman that's average looking to maybe a little above average looking

00:26:25.720 has the same sexual marketplace value and pull as a guy that's damn near a celebrity.

00:26:30.640 Why?

00:26:30.920 Because of the advent of the internet, Instagram, et cetera.

00:26:33.080 An average girl can hang out with extraordinary men.

00:26:35.520 That plays a huge role in their psyche of what they think they deserve and the type of man

00:26:39.000 that they think they're capable of attracting.

00:26:40.420 But what they make the mistake of doing is they think just because I can attract this

00:26:43.760 guy doesn't necessarily mean they can retain that guy.

00:26:46.080 But that plays a huge role because girls think they deserve best.

00:26:49.040 If you, if you ask an average woman, what do you want?

00:26:51.920 She's going to describe to you an exceptional man.

00:26:53.580 And that's been heightened even more so thanks to feminism.

00:26:56.340 Women earn their own money.

00:26:57.400 They have their own status.

00:26:58.360 They have their own cars.

00:26:59.300 They have their own ability to provision for themselves.

00:27:01.100 So, since they're able to get all these things themselves, they no longer need a dutiful,

00:27:05.980 responsible, leadership-driven man because they're like, yo, I just want the hot guy now.

00:27:10.920 I can provision for myself.

00:27:12.480 Let me ask you this, right?

00:27:13.280 If you had a hot girl that was with you at all times, that would give you fellatio, she

00:27:16.940 was hot, she would give you sex whenever you wanted, et cetera, would you seriously go

00:27:19.960 out there on dates with women that you didn't like like that or tolerate the BS?

00:27:22.940 No, you wouldn't.

00:27:23.740 You'd be like, get out of here.

00:27:24.520 I don't want to deal with you.

00:27:25.560 But that's how women are with their jobs and their money.

00:27:27.900 Women effectively have their own provisioning.

00:27:29.700 So, they don't need to deal with the majority of men.

00:27:31.520 So, therefore, they only want to deal with the top 10 men, the top 10, top 20% of men.

00:27:35.500 This is why so many guys are out of the sexual marketplace.

00:27:37.680 It's the same situation if you had a bad chick with you at all times, you would not tolerate

00:27:41.580 female BS.

00:27:43.040 You wouldn't.

00:27:43.880 That's how women feel about their jobs.

00:27:45.400 And to add to this point as well, with the event on social media, if you look at Instagram

00:27:49.600 per se, I would say that's the biggest thing in the world because in the back pocket of

00:27:53.480 Instagram DMs, women have access to, I want to say, a plethora of guys at their fingertips.

00:27:58.280 So, it's like, okay, if he's not giving me what I want, if he's not a high-value leader,

00:28:01.860 why do I want this guy?

00:28:02.760 And most guys are not that.

00:28:03.640 And a lot of guys that might share your values, which I agree with 1,000%, will get overlooked.

00:28:08.000 Because, oh, you're not attractive enough for me.

00:28:10.480 Oh, you don't have enough clout for me, blah, blah, blah.

00:28:12.840 And a lot of guys that are traditionally masculine attractive guys, right, that might have been

00:28:17.500 attractive 50, 60 years ago, they're overlooked because women want the bigger, better deal.

00:28:22.240 And they're like, I don't care that you have these traits because I can do it myself.

00:28:25.860 So, since they're doing that, what it's done is it's deregulated the sexual marketplace.

00:28:29.740 It's deregulated the dating marketplace.

00:28:31.520 Trust me, I wish we could go back to traditional families like the 1950s.

00:28:35.760 I talk about this extensively, how the sexual marketplace has been ruined and we need to

00:28:39.880 go back to how it was.

00:28:41.060 But it never will.

00:28:42.600 So, what we tell guys is, look, you got to adapt to the new normal.

00:28:46.300 Now, with that said, I get what you're saying.

00:28:49.000 Promiscuity affects both genders negatively.

00:28:50.720 Yes, it does.

00:28:52.120 Men to the same extent as women.

00:28:53.900 Men, however, guys need to go out there and get that experience and deal with these new

00:28:57.860 women that are more promiscuous than ever before because the women are absolutely hooking up

00:29:01.320 with guys.

00:29:01.800 It is so bad that we have guys leaving America called Passport Bros to go abroad with girls.

00:29:07.700 If it wasn't that bad, they'd be here getting sex.

00:29:10.120 But it's really that bad.

00:29:10.900 And also, I'll say one more thing.

00:29:12.060 One more thing.

00:29:13.160 I get it.

00:29:14.560 I'm not saying our solution is the best.

00:29:17.300 There's negatives and pluses with everything.

00:29:19.620 There's always a give and take, right?

00:29:21.180 But what I want is I prefer guys to get their money on point, have sexual experience with

00:29:25.560 women, become that guy, adhere to these traits, and then choose down the road.

00:29:30.360 You know what?

00:29:30.700 I'm ready for a family now.

00:29:31.660 I'm in a position where I can do it.

00:29:33.020 I have enough money.

00:29:33.640 I have enough status.

00:29:34.460 I understand female nature.

00:29:36.180 I'm in a position where my woman will respect me and follow my leadership.

00:29:39.280 And then they can make that decision versus feeling pressured to do it in a new normal

00:29:43.060 that isn't set up for them to win.

00:29:44.660 So, yes, there's negatives on both sides.

00:29:46.980 But I'd rather the guy make that decision himself versus getting into a marriage and potentially

00:29:50.180 losing everything.

00:29:50.860 But then wouldn't the solution be to be a passport bro?

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00:31:20.900 Well, a lot of guys are taking that.

00:31:23.660 A lot of guys are taking that route.

00:31:24.720 Let me clarify, though.

00:31:25.340 I don't actually know what the full term means.

00:31:27.600 I've only just heard it for the first time.

00:31:28.920 But my assumption is there are guys who want a traditional, normal relationship and they

00:31:33.860 have to leave the country to find it.

00:31:35.040 Is that what it means?

00:31:36.140 That's a component.

00:31:37.100 A lot of guys are struggling, as you can see from this graph here as well.

00:31:40.440 And it's not by choice.

00:31:41.260 They have to because most girls don't want that type of guy.

00:31:43.960 So they say, you know what?

00:31:45.160 I have a solution to the problem.

00:31:46.700 I'm going to leave America, where women are more stuck up, more like demanding.

00:31:49.700 Go to Colombia, Philippines, you know, anywhere else in the world that's more traditional.

00:31:54.740 And OK, cool.

00:31:55.560 Now I'm an American.

00:31:57.220 My value is perceived a bit higher than most people here.

00:31:59.560 So I'm the chosen one now.

00:32:01.460 So now the options have changed because as an American, you become the hierarchy there.

00:32:05.700 So for the most part, guys want access to women, but they can't get it here.

00:32:09.220 They'll go abroad.

00:32:09.640 So then I wouldn't say Passport Bro is a solution.

00:32:14.760 My initial assumption is you can go to a country like Colombia where there's traditional values.

00:32:19.540 But it sounds like what you're saying is it actually increases the perceived value as an American.

00:32:23.920 So guys are going to be promiscuous.

00:32:25.360 There's a multitude of reasons why guys go, right?

00:32:27.800 Some guys go there to just hook up.

00:32:29.360 Some guys go there to find a girlfriend.

00:32:30.800 Some guys go there because the cost of living is lower.

00:32:33.400 There's a multitude of different reasons.

00:32:34.480 But the bottom line, it seems like the common denominator here is that women in the West in general typically are less marriageable than they were 50, 60 years ago.

00:32:44.160 And we're not saying they're not good women here because they are good women in America, 100%.

00:32:47.980 We're just saying, how do you know who's good for you who's not?

00:32:51.120 You must have experience.

00:32:52.120 I think you've got the process a little backwards is how I feel about it.

00:32:57.080 I think you need to decide the kind of man you want to be.

00:33:01.580 You need to map out your life and the type of man that you want to be and the type of woman that you want.

00:33:06.400 Like you need to know that for you and you need to take steps to become that.

00:33:10.440 And as you become that, you naturally will attract the type of woman that you're trying to attract.

00:33:16.460 I don't think you gain much with casual sex.

00:33:21.940 Now, again, it's not about like I'm not saying sex is bad.

00:33:23.860 Sex is awesome.

00:33:24.700 And if you want to have sex as you're dating to as you as you filter out mates and who maybe you want to build a family with, that's great.

00:33:33.000 But the first step shouldn't be like you got to date all these women, have sex with all these women to figure out what type of woman you want.

00:33:39.560 The first step is what kind of man do I want to be?

00:33:42.320 Here are some steps I need to take to become that.

00:33:44.480 And what is the woman that I'm going to marry who's going to raise my children look like?

00:33:48.220 And then you actually have a roadmap to then go out when you're dating and get off the Internet.

00:33:55.300 Like I feel like part of the problem here, obviously, with this graph, it's porn, it's dating apps, it's dating apps and social media.

00:34:03.360 And I think it's completely skewed everybody's vision of what the average woman looks like.

00:34:09.000 Because the average women that you see on Instagram are not the average woman.

00:34:12.840 I'm just going to say that.

00:34:14.200 And I think men have lost the ability to just go into a coffee shop and pick up a woman and get a number.

00:34:21.200 You can't do that.

00:34:22.080 That's not allowed.

00:34:22.920 But it is.

00:34:23.860 But it is allowed.

00:34:24.500 That's like me too.

00:34:25.060 No, no, no.

00:34:25.460 I know you're saying it is.

00:34:27.500 But dude, there's, let's take a look at like gyms, for instance.

00:34:31.860 The meme.

00:34:33.120 There's a really, really funny video where it's a woman, a guy's lifting, curling or whatever.

00:34:38.820 And then a woman walks onto the treadmill in front of him and his head spins all the way back around.

00:34:43.060 Because there are a ton of these videos where a guy's minding his own business and he becomes viral just because he says something like, hey, are you done lifting those?

00:34:51.700 And then you're like, how dare you talk to me?

00:34:53.840 And it's laughably insane.

00:34:55.700 That one where this woman is working out and one of the guys who works at the gym comes up and he's like, is everything okay, ma'am?

00:35:03.540 And she goes, excuse me?

00:35:04.560 And he's like, is there an issue?

00:35:05.940 And she goes, there's no problem.

00:35:07.440 Why are you talking to me?

00:35:08.280 He's like, ma'am, I work here.

00:35:09.280 And she's like, well, you can't tell me what to do.

00:35:11.980 That clip goes mad viral because it was comeuppance for a lot of the situations.

00:35:17.080 Let's put it this way.

00:35:18.080 Let's say in only one of one out of 10 or one out of 50 instances, a guy walks up to a girl very politely and says, how do you do, ma'am?

00:35:27.520 You know, my name's, you know, Rick and couldn't help but notice you shopping at this year bookstore.

00:35:31.040 And I live in the area.

00:35:32.040 I'm trying to make friends.

00:35:34.500 How does he know that he's not going to end up with a viral clip, a picture taken, accusing him of being a rapist, a creep?

00:35:41.260 I'll tell you.

00:35:41.960 I'll tell you.

00:35:42.480 Because, again, I think this is another instance.

00:35:44.420 I think all of us are guilty of this, that we live too much on the internet in that a lot of our perspectives are influenced because we are so online all the time.

00:35:54.560 I'm with you on talking to women in person, by the way.

00:35:57.680 I agree that guys need to go out there and talk to women.

00:35:59.820 And this all starts, by the way, with the fathers, right?

00:36:04.020 My sons will have absolutely no problem talking to women, being confident with women.

00:36:08.900 Like, it all starts there.

00:36:10.020 And this is my whole mission of, like, a lot of the problems that you're talking about are eliminated with present, strong fathers who show their sons how to be confident, successful men and good leaders of the family.

00:36:25.880 But here's the thing.

00:36:27.780 You've got to understand.

00:36:28.920 The women that your sons are going to talk to aren't going to have fathers.

00:36:33.840 So, though I know it's optimal.

00:36:35.500 Yeah.

00:36:35.700 Like, what you're saying is optimal.

00:36:37.340 I agree with everything that you're saying.

00:36:38.580 But my thing is I'm adapting guys for the new normal.

00:36:41.580 These girls are hoes, man.

00:36:44.580 I'm just like, dude, like, we just got to keep it a thousand.

00:36:47.360 Don't hang out in areas with women.

00:36:49.080 No, no, no.

00:36:49.520 But, dude, this is what I'm trying to say.

00:36:50.560 Get on Instagram.

00:36:51.340 Like, hold on.

00:36:51.960 Here's the thing.

00:36:52.500 Go to church.

00:36:52.880 Because you're saying, like, go up, talk to the girl, et cetera.

00:36:55.600 Let me just give you guys the game plan, okay?

00:36:58.000 A woman's goal is to sell you purity so that you commit to her.

00:37:01.600 The man's goal is to sell success so that she'll want to commit to it, so that he can give commitment to her to some degree if he finds her attractive.

00:37:07.100 I want guys to be able to detect if a girl is actually pure or not.

00:37:11.680 The only way you're going to be able to see a woman's character and her purity, because she's going to tell you a bunch of BS, you need to get out there and deal with girls.

00:37:18.240 You need to be able to pick up on certain red flags that you're only going to gain through dating experience and dealing with a multitude of women.

00:37:24.580 But you won't know the better.

00:37:25.780 If you don't, dating and having sex with 50 women are different things.

00:37:28.400 Like, how long would it take to date 50 people and have sex with them?

00:37:32.080 Okay.

00:37:32.540 Like, because I think, like, that's where-

00:37:34.220 I think they're saying a month and a half.

00:37:35.480 No, well, we're not saying that.

00:37:37.800 We're not saying that.

00:37:38.640 But what I am saying is that the reason why I say 50 in general, right, and it's a very controversial take, is that, because, dude, if you go to a university, right?

00:37:46.300 Right, and there's more women going to college now than men, by the way.

00:37:49.860 Women dominate college attendance.

00:37:51.260 What do you think the girls are doing there?

00:37:52.540 They're pursuing, besides pursuing useless degrees, they're smashing.

00:37:56.340 These girls, I know girls that will get laid like 20 dudes in a semester easily, if not more.

00:38:00.940 So by the time a girl's, you know, done with Greek life, done with college, et cetera, going, pursuing her master's degree or whatever it may be, a lot of these girls will have double-digit body counts.

00:38:09.140 And I don't want guys to go into a situation where they have five bodies, she has 50 bodies, she's going ahead and selling impurity,

00:38:15.180 telling him what he wants to hear.

00:38:16.580 He doesn't know better because he hasn't dealt with enough women.

00:38:18.840 And then next thing you know, he's getting finessed.

00:38:20.660 Aren't you contributing to the problem, though, by having sex with a bunch?

00:38:24.160 Aren't you just creating more?

00:38:25.420 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:38:26.100 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:38:28.100 If women are going to have bazookas in the sexual marketplace, I'm going to arm the guys with the bazookas.

00:38:32.380 I got you.

00:38:32.840 Fire with fire.

00:38:33.360 I got you.

00:38:33.820 Social media has already armed them, my friend.

00:38:36.320 TikTok, Instagram, there's no denying.

00:38:38.600 Yeah, you say go off on social media.

00:38:40.260 Bro, no one's got off of it.

00:38:41.400 They're actually more in tune to it, and as well, from young ages.

00:38:44.500 So, ultimately, you're being brainwashed by social media from the very beginning.

00:38:47.800 So, at the end, you can help counteract, but not all the way.

00:38:50.640 I think where we're becoming like, I say this ironically, arch enemies on this topic is like,

00:38:57.000 you guys kind of seem like you want to exploit the current culture to the best of your ability.

00:39:03.680 I'm more of like a resist guy.

00:39:05.480 And maybe that's naive of me, but I'm more like, fuck that.

00:39:09.960 I'm resisting this new reality, and I want to create the type of men who are better than this.

00:39:18.660 That's exactly how I see it.

00:39:20.100 But I wouldn't say exploit.

00:39:21.440 I think they're-

00:39:22.460 Adapted to it.

00:39:23.200 We're adapting.

00:39:23.580 Sure, that's a better way.

00:39:24.560 You're giving the ideal, which I agree with, but I'm giving the real of what they really are dealing with.

00:39:29.020 These women are not the same, dude.

00:39:30.800 Like, if it was 1953, and the girls came, you know, from a God-fearing household, they had their father in place, religion was a thing, shame was a thing, there was no social media, women actually were women, and they were feminine, and they weren't the masculine, butchering, ridiculous women that they are nowadays, I would tell you, yes, let's do it.

00:39:46.800 But unfortunately, I cannot dispense that advice.

00:39:49.180 That is the equivalent to giving them a butter knife and telling them, go into this gunfight.

00:39:52.520 These women are different.

00:39:54.020 They've changed.

00:39:54.660 Men haven't changed, but women have.

00:39:55.780 But stay away from these areas.

00:39:57.220 Like, I don't think the situation you're describing affects people who go to church a little bit.

00:40:02.500 What?

00:40:02.920 Tim!

00:40:03.360 Tim!

00:40:04.100 Tim!

00:40:04.600 Okay, hold on, hold on.

00:40:05.840 No, no, no, let me explain.

00:40:07.240 Let me explain.

00:40:08.200 Okay?

00:40:08.720 A guy who lives in a small town rural area who meets-

00:40:11.800 Me?

00:40:13.160 Jason, who is in church, and then there's a beautiful young woman, and then after church, as everyone's leaving, they're talking and everything, and they say, I want you to meet my niece.

00:40:22.920 She just moved into town.

00:40:24.240 She's from another small town.

00:40:25.800 So, you're not going to run into a hoe with 50 body counts, most likely in that scenario.

00:40:31.620 You are right.

00:40:33.200 However, once again, this thing here called a cell phone permeates homes, bombshells, everything.

00:40:39.620 Because guess what?

00:40:40.400 That girl that's a small town girl, she might be beautiful, young, and purity-wise, but she can on TikTok, her friends say on social media, come with us to Miami for a vacation, girl.

00:40:50.740 Leave your husband for a little bit.

00:40:51.840 Let's go to Tulum.

00:40:52.380 The moment she leaves, I guess, on social media, it's a wrap.

00:40:55.060 Because guess what?

00:40:55.980 That whole, I want to say, agenda of, okay, a sick to one man family is great, but once this gets into her hands, bro, you never know.

00:41:04.100 You never know.

00:41:04.640 Really?

00:41:04.940 Okay.

00:41:05.340 Here's the deal.

00:41:06.400 Here's the deal.

00:41:07.320 I would get-

00:41:07.980 My wife doesn't know who y'all are, okay?

00:41:09.560 I would give you her number today and give you as long as you wanted to try to infiltrate that with money.

00:41:18.480 Well, you can't do it with money, but with whatever-

00:41:21.020 He looks at his watch.

00:41:23.040 I got one too!

00:41:24.240 I got one too!

00:41:25.240 We got that nice Rolex!

00:41:26.800 I said, yeah, I said, nice watch!

00:41:28.160 I got one too!

00:41:29.060 You can use whatever tools at your disposal, and I would bet you a million dollars, a real offer.

00:41:33.660 And you picked a good one.

00:41:34.780 Okay, so this is what I'm saying.

00:41:36.600 Who are we talking to?

00:41:37.800 Because I thought we were talking to the 1%.

00:41:39.180 We're trying to talk to the 1% of men, right?

00:41:41.460 The high value.

00:41:42.660 We're trying to build high value men, right?

00:41:45.060 That's all of our goals, right?

00:41:46.560 Yeah.

00:41:47.280 So I feel like the advice that we're talking about right now is for the general population, which is debauchery, casual sex.

00:41:57.740 Fighting fire will fire, man.

00:41:59.020 Okay, but I want to talk to the 1% of men who are willing to, however many women, it doesn't matter the number of women that you have sex with.

00:42:08.760 It doesn't matter as long as you're in pursuit of that purpose.

00:42:11.200 But I'm talking to this 1% of men who are willing to find the woman that I'm referring to when I talk about my wife of to find her, to wait for her, to commit to her, and to do that without need, like, and being sure enough in yourself as a man that you don't need to do all this other stuff.

00:42:30.120 Because there is enough women, good women, for the top 1% of men.

00:42:35.160 There is.

00:42:36.180 There might not be enough women for every man, right?

00:42:39.440 Because not everybody's high value.

00:42:41.700 Not everybody's going to be that 1%.

00:42:43.040 But if you want to be high value, there are enough quality women for you that you don't have to do that whole thing.

00:42:49.860 My hard thing is we're more general.

00:42:51.380 We want to talk to everybody, and we want guys to understand how to really navigate the sexual marketplace.

00:42:55.780 And I get it.

00:42:56.240 Like, your wife, you probably did a fantastic job.

00:42:58.140 You screened her out, and you picked the best girl.

00:43:00.340 But we want guys to be in a position to be able to do that as well.

00:43:02.940 Not everybody's going to be lucky where they're going to meet a God-fearing woman that doesn't come with a promiscuous past.

00:43:07.980 A lot of women do, unfortunately, because they're incentivized to be hoes.

00:43:10.600 So we want guys to be able to identify those girls and not commit to them.

00:43:13.160 And Tim.

00:43:13.880 Let me just say this.

00:43:15.160 Yeah, please.

00:43:15.540 My view, I don't have a perfect analogy, so this is not entirely fair.

00:43:19.540 But my view of how you guys are describing it is, like, somebody grows up on the south side of Chicago in the hood or whatever.

00:43:26.080 And what are most kids doing?

00:43:28.560 They're selling dope pot.

00:43:30.060 You know, I'm not talking about heroin or anything like that.

00:43:31.980 And, you know, they can get in trouble.

00:43:33.520 They know it's no good.

00:43:34.760 But the attitude that they have is always, bro, this is the reality.

00:43:38.640 You're not going to be able to go to the north side and get a good job and make $30,000 a year as an entry-level position.

00:43:43.800 The only way you're going to be able to succeed in this day and age is to adapt and join the gang and sell the pot.

00:43:48.520 So, some people will be like, I will do whatever it takes to not be a part of whatever that is and put my life in this position, even though that's what everyone around you is doing.

00:43:58.160 Some people get out of those situations and they figure it out.

00:44:01.580 Maybe that is only the 1%.

00:44:02.800 But my advice to people, and again, I'm not saying it's completely fair because there's a difference between dating and doing something illegal.

00:44:08.380 My attitude is basically, don't, don't.

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00:45:36.740 Just give in to this world you're being forced to adhere to.

00:45:42.660 I agree more just about resist that and try and figure it out.

00:45:45.360 I would argue that it's the other way around.

00:45:46.880 Most guys don't know what we're talking about and they're actually selling the dope and doing what they're not supposed to be doing and becoming a statistic.

00:45:52.780 Instead of doing what we're teaching them, which is you need to adapt to the new normal, right?

00:45:57.460 And you have to use unorthodox techniques because what they told you before was get married, find a family, etc.

00:46:02.660 Even though that's good advice, the reality is that that doesn't necessarily work in 2023.

00:46:07.500 So you need to adapt to the new normal and innovate.

00:46:09.740 Well, let's jump into marriage.

00:46:11.940 Sure.

00:46:12.440 It is not uncommon.

00:46:14.780 In fact, I think it's probably the common view among young guys that marriage is a huge risk.

00:46:19.680 Divorce rates, super high, as you said, initiated by women.

00:46:22.940 More than half of marriage is ending in divorce.

00:46:24.840 Divorce courts favoring women.

00:46:26.520 Men losing their children and being forced to pay alimony at the same time.

00:46:29.940 Losing half of their possessions.

00:46:31.400 You've got these situations where the man and the woman are both working jobs and then the court still finds in favor of the women.

00:46:36.680 And then to get even more into the, I would say a more extreme position is like this case in Texas where this man and woman get married, have a kid.

00:46:44.740 And then the woman wants to gender transition the kid and flees to California with this kid.

00:46:49.160 And California says it's okay and allowed.

00:46:52.000 Perhaps people are living too much on the internet, but the data does show that we're in a, I've seen too many commercials growing up where it's like,

00:46:59.620 are you a father who has been negatively affected by this, blah, blah, blah.

00:47:02.480 We can see the data showing that if you're a guy who enters a marriage, you are in a like, a dramatically negative position in terms of any arising future disputes.

00:47:14.660 Not to mention, I'll also add the cultural degradation of the institution of marriage.

00:47:20.020 Married with children, I absolutely despise as a TV show.

00:47:22.860 I grew up watching this and it's about people who hate each other with a passion and it's like a joke.

00:47:29.400 And I'm like, I just, I couldn't stand that show.

00:47:31.760 But so you, you grew up seeing something like that.

00:47:34.080 And I'm, I'm smart enough to recognize I'm not going to be programmed by a TV to tell me that marriage is bad.

00:47:38.920 I understand the nuclear families is as what did Vivek Ramoswami say?

00:47:41.660 It's the most powerful and effective form of governance.

00:47:44.500 No, man.

00:47:45.120 Yeah, absolutely.

00:47:45.800 But how many people grew up watching that thinking marriage will make you miserable, propagandized and not wanting to do it.

00:47:50.960 And now you have the institutions, the courts themselves, putting that weight on men if they are to even, you know, try.

00:47:58.360 I just want to address what you said earlier about the kids in, you know, Chicago or South Side of Chicago.

00:48:02.820 You are right.

00:48:03.780 And he mentioned earlier, those people that we're talking to right now, which is not the 1%, which are kind of like, you know, the majority, they don't know what they don't know.

00:48:11.160 So if you don't know what you don't know, you think, okay, this is my reality.

00:48:13.380 This is all I know.

00:48:13.900 However, when you're exposed to the truth of what's really out there, you can make a solid choice for yourself.

00:48:18.340 Okay, as a man, what do I want?

00:48:20.700 So to come to your point as well, you're right.

00:48:22.700 As a man, you used to know from the very beginning what you want to be, you know, your end goal.

00:48:26.760 But you don't know until you know, which means if you don't know the extent of what you can do, you're not going to do anything.

00:48:31.380 So my thing is like with marriage itself, if you know the truth about marriage and dating, you understand, like you said before, you're at a deficit once you join that agreement.

00:48:40.240 Because women are incentivized to break that at any point in time and get a game from it.

00:48:44.600 Now, if you know that, how do you get married to solve a family?

00:48:46.980 It's simple.

00:48:47.800 You marry, you know, the state, which is either by the church or outside the U.S.

00:48:52.220 That's how we come to like kind of rationalize getting married.

00:48:54.700 Yeah, we don't think.

00:48:56.280 Because here's the thing.

00:48:57.000 So men take all the risk when they get married, right?

00:48:59.720 And then on top of that, we live in a society where women are not incentivized to keep the marriage going.

00:49:05.880 And if anything, they're more incentivized to leave their marriage, get the money, get the children, get all the benefits that come with it.

00:49:11.360 So what I'm saying is that since men must take more risk with getting married and dealing with women in that situation, they need to be more aware and know what they're getting into.

00:49:18.660 It goes back to that boxing match I told you about.

00:49:20.540 If you know that you're going to get into a ring with someone that's been training for the past five to ten years in a boxing ring as a man, which is going to be your wife, by the way, who's going to know way more about the judicial system with dealing with the opposite gender, who's going to have all the advantages on her side.

00:49:33.160 But she's going to have dealt with way more men than you've dealt with women.

00:49:36.060 This is why so many guys aren't able to go ahead and approach women.

00:49:38.240 But women are very good at deciphering and figuring out which guys are losers.

00:49:41.080 We want guys to just be able to have the experience so that they can simply compete.

00:49:44.680 But most guys don't even have the experience to compete because what do we tell men?

00:49:47.680 Oh, women are sugar and spice and everything nice.

00:49:49.860 Chivalry is a thing.

00:49:50.860 Treat them fantastically even though they don't necessarily deserve it.

00:49:54.260 There's women out there that literally prey on men where they go on dates with guys that they don't like for free meals.

00:49:59.380 Women do this stuff.

00:50:00.160 Women absolutely leverage the sexual marketplace to their advantage.

00:50:03.800 All I'm simply doing is I'm telling guys, yo, you need to date like a girl and put yourself first because women absolutely put themselves first.

00:50:09.420 We got girls with sugar daddies.

00:50:11.040 We got girls getting flown out to major cities because I know you guys say, oh, well, there's women in rural areas that might not necessarily do this stuff.

00:50:17.200 They're still getting flown out.

00:50:18.160 They still have access to these men.

00:50:19.300 They're still one DM away.

00:50:20.480 They're still able to go to Tulum and to Miami, et cetera.

00:50:22.540 How do we know?

00:50:22.980 Because we deal with these girls.

00:50:24.140 Where are you from?

00:50:24.800 I'm from Bumblefuck, Arkansas.

00:50:26.500 And then they're still going ahead and hanging out with guys like us.

00:50:28.960 And I'm like, holy crap.

00:50:30.160 The sexual marketplace is globalized.

00:50:32.900 And what I mean by that is that your girl ain't safe.

00:50:35.340 She can go travel anywhere.

00:50:37.120 So I want guys to be aware of this, adapt to it and understand, okay, which girls am I going to commit to?

00:50:42.200 Are there women out there that are worthy of committing to that you found one?

00:50:44.800 Absolutely.

00:50:45.540 But I want guys to have the skill set to be able to figure out and decipher which ones are worthy.

00:50:48.920 I saw a funny tweet.

00:50:49.780 I think it might have been Ashley St.

00:50:51.060 Clair.

00:50:51.320 Maybe not.

00:50:52.260 I don't want to attribute the joke to the wrong person, but they said men should not be allowed on Instagram.

00:50:57.660 The point being, guys go on Instagram and they DM women.

00:51:03.260 Yeah.

00:51:04.060 So going back to this decline in sex, showing that men between 18 and 30 are less likely to have had sex in the past year.

00:51:13.240 Women seem to be in a comparable range, a little bit less than normal.

00:51:16.720 So, you know, I was talking about this a couple of years ago when I was 20, college age, we didn't have any of this stuff.

00:51:26.260 And so what happens if you're in college, your sphere of influence and your dating marketplace is your college for the most part.

00:51:35.600 There could be overlapping colleges.

00:51:37.160 Like if you're hanging out at Columbia in Chicago, you might have someone who's going to Loyola.

00:51:40.960 You might say they might say, hey, there's a party come up here.

00:51:43.260 But for the most part, 18 to 22 is this dating pool range.

00:51:49.240 You're typically not going to run into when I was when I was younger, a 22 year old, you know, chick dating a 35 year old guy or anything like that because they just don't know them.

00:51:58.160 Then MySpace pops up, Facebook pops up, you start getting a little bit of this, but then you get OKCupid, you get Tinder and what happens?

00:52:08.000 Now you've got a guy who's 20 years old and he lives in a dorm.

00:52:11.340 He's living in a dorm, same as anybody else in this college.

00:52:14.580 He sends a message to a 20 year old girl that he knows that they met at a party or they have class together.

00:52:20.600 And he's like, hey, do you want to come hang out?

00:52:22.600 Sure.

00:52:23.240 You know, this guy's kind of attractive.

00:52:24.460 She likes him.

00:52:25.320 What are you doing?

00:52:25.800 He's like, you know, we're hanging out at home.

00:52:27.820 We're watching a movie.

00:52:29.260 We're going to like order pizza or we can just like go see a show, you know, down the street at one of the venues.

00:52:33.760 And she's like, oh, that sounds really fun.

00:52:35.560 Then she gets hit up on Tinder by a guy who's 35.

00:52:38.140 Hey, you want to hang out and go do something?

00:52:41.140 Sure.

00:52:41.600 What do you have in mind?

00:52:42.540 I'll come by, pick you up in my, you know, Mitsubishi spider convertible.

00:52:46.880 We'll drive down to the lake.

00:52:48.380 Then I'll take you out to a nice dinner and we'll have steak.

00:52:51.020 Which one is she going to pick?

00:52:52.740 Now, of course, some women are going to be like, I'd rather hang out with my friends and my community.

00:52:56.880 But there is an increased pressure now where younger women have access to higher value guys.

00:53:02.240 And I mean that in like status wise, wealth wise access.

00:53:06.720 And it's a question of like this dude's going to bring you to a rooftop bar downtown.

00:53:10.480 He makes 70,000 a year.

00:53:11.960 He's not the richest guy in the world.

00:53:12.820 But for you, a broke college student in debt, he's going to buy you a nice dinner.

00:53:16.720 He's going to get you drinks and you're going to overlook the city.

00:53:19.140 And then, I mean, that sounds so much fun.

00:53:21.700 Or you can hang out in the dorm with your buddies who are also poor.

00:53:23.820 And here's the other thing too.

00:53:24.620 One of the biggest complaints that we get from guys that are in the dating marketplace is the flake rate.

00:53:30.160 Women plan a date with them.

00:53:31.340 Oh, I'll come out with you, blah, blah, blah.

00:53:32.440 And then she doesn't show up.

00:53:33.460 Or she doesn't respond to texts or whatever.

00:53:35.420 Anytime a girl flakes on a guy, what it simply means is something better came along.

00:53:39.820 And thanks to the internet, thanks to Instagram, thanks to dating apps, etc.

00:53:42.820 Which dating apps heavily favor women, by the way.

00:53:44.840 Guys absolutely fail dating apps.

00:53:46.600 It's only about 5% of guys even get swiped right in the first place.

00:53:49.920 Women have more abundance than ever before.

00:53:51.400 And they have more options than ever before.

00:53:52.360 And I don't think guys understand.

00:53:53.680 We've interviewed 2,400, 2,500 women now at this point on our show.

00:53:56.780 From different socioeconomic statuses, different professions, different backgrounds, different everything.

00:54:02.580 Countries too.

00:54:02.900 Different classes, different countries, social structures, religion, everything.

00:54:07.760 We've literally interviewed women at all different levels on our podcast.

00:54:11.080 And what I've come to realize is the abundance of options that modern day women have

00:54:14.940 has absolutely influenced how they view the opposite gender.

00:54:18.580 Most women, unfortunately, do not respect most men.

00:54:20.900 Most women think most men are below them.

00:54:22.720 They would not date most men.

00:54:23.880 They think most men are invisible.

00:54:25.060 And they think most men are inferior to them when it comes to, I want a top tier guy.

00:54:29.000 Because when I ask girls, what do you want in a man?

00:54:30.920 And we actually ask them, they always describe a guy in the top 2% to 3%.

00:54:34.400 I would say that's, maybe it's too bold to say statistically proven, but I would say we

00:54:39.580 have seen tons of data showing exactly what you said is most likely to be the case.

00:54:43.940 I think it was Tinder or OkCupid's data showing that the average man has a natural bell curve

00:54:50.560 for female attraction and value.

00:54:52.660 And the average female has a super warped curve that they only look at men.

00:54:57.680 They would rate 8.

00:54:58.680 Men that are on average rated 8 to 10 are deemed average.

00:55:02.940 And for men, the bell curve is normal.

00:55:05.380 Like the average woman is average.

00:55:07.400 The ugly woman is ugly.

00:55:08.560 The beautiful woman is beautiful.

00:55:09.800 For women, almost all guys, 80% of men, they deem unworthy or unattractive.

00:55:15.300 But I don't know if the solution to this then is to say, engage in it.

00:55:19.800 Perhaps the solution is get away from these, you know, areas full of debauchery.

00:55:25.060 Go out to smaller areas and find something more wholesome.

00:55:29.460 If cities have embraced this culture to this degree, then perhaps the solution is to recognize

00:55:35.360 that and get away from it.

00:55:37.140 You can, but that does not necessarily save you because that woman is still going to be

00:55:40.580 open to the globalized sexual marketplace.

00:55:43.100 She still might go to college in an area where she might still go to university where being

00:55:48.400 promiscuous and everything is encouraged.

00:55:49.800 At University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, someone sent me a picture of this.

00:55:53.120 They're literally giving girls honey packs and condoms.

00:55:56.060 Y'all are, y'all are just thinking too, too short term, too short term and too, too self

00:56:01.700 focused in my opinion.

00:56:02.600 Like, so I'm thinking in generations, right?

00:56:05.360 Like how long did it take us to get to this point as a society?

00:56:09.800 All the things you're, which a lot of it's true and you cannot argue with a lot of the

00:56:13.780 points just made 100%.

00:56:15.220 Centuries.

00:56:15.920 It's a big, I wouldn't say centuries.

00:56:17.940 I would say, well, maybe overall, but you look at the past, you know, 50 years or so.

00:56:22.880 Yeah.

00:56:23.140 And you can see the writing on the wall of what has happened to the nuclear family, what's

00:56:26.760 happened to society.

00:56:27.440 Absolutely.

00:56:27.740 The way women are viewed, the whole deal.

00:56:30.680 And so the solution to me is a generational one.

00:56:35.060 And what it is, is that when the high value men demand something different and are open

00:56:41.200 to something different and saying, you know what?

00:56:43.500 But this Instagram, like, let me fly you out to Bali on my private jet deal is no longer

00:56:50.320 attractive to them because they have a higher standard that they're setting for themselves.

00:56:55.760 Hopefully my sons who will be, you know, the women are not attracted to that anymore.

00:56:59.860 No, I'm saying the men are saying we want something different.

00:57:02.920 We don't want the Instagram hoe that I can fly in overnight just to have a quick, you know,

00:57:08.160 that is about, that's never happening.

00:57:09.380 That's about, with all due respect, that's never, hold on, hold on, like, go ahead.

00:57:13.500 I, I, I agree a lot with what he's saying.

00:57:15.560 Imagine if women are only looking at the top eight, nine, 10, uh, of men.

00:57:20.220 Yeah.

00:57:20.600 If these guys, if guys like you just started shaming women, do they, you know, you know

00:57:27.440 who's paying for only fans, right?

00:57:29.000 It's low quality.

00:57:29.740 It's lower quality guys.

00:57:30.660 Yeah.

00:57:30.920 So if high quality dudes who got really nice watches and pull up in a Bugatti and this

00:57:35.180 woman's like, yeah, I want to come hang me with you.

00:57:37.240 And he'll say, yeah, what's your body count?

00:57:38.480 And he goes, how dare you ask me that?

00:57:39.720 I don't want to hoe in my car.

00:57:40.720 And he takes off.

00:57:41.440 Yeah.

00:57:41.620 Now she's embarrassed.

00:57:42.400 She got shut down.

00:57:43.500 And more women are going to say, if I want a high value man, because only the guys are

00:57:47.920 going to come back to me, they're going to be high value.

00:57:48.820 So maybe, maybe flip the, let's be real here though.

00:57:50.540 Okay.

00:57:50.860 Are we going to turn this into the Dreamcast?

00:57:53.080 Yeah.

00:57:54.220 This is the Dreamcast.

00:57:55.360 Now let's all say.

00:57:55.680 Yo, let's be real here.

00:57:57.180 As men, we got to be honest here, bro.

00:57:59.480 We smash in whatever's possible.

00:58:01.160 And if they're bad, you're not going to say no.

00:58:02.620 Yeah.

00:58:03.000 Speak for yourself though.

00:58:04.280 When you were, when you were single, right?

00:58:06.380 Okay.

00:58:07.060 And you were my age, right?

00:58:09.140 What are you doing?

00:58:09.580 I would call myself stupid.

00:58:11.640 Is what I would call myself stupid, immature.

00:58:13.540 But you were still smashing.

00:58:14.520 Okay.

00:58:16.440 Hey!

00:58:17.680 We got him!

00:58:18.640 I would call myself stupid, immature, not brought up properly, not taught the things

00:58:26.140 that actually make me into a high value man.

00:58:28.800 So I think you need to flip the equation.

00:58:31.880 You say the women have all the power, but what you're saying is what we're really saying

00:58:36.640 is the top tier of men, you're saying get to have their pick of the women.

00:58:44.280 Who has the power then to set the standard?

00:58:47.360 I've actually said this a million times.

00:58:48.500 What feminism actually did was it inadvertently gave the top 1% of guys all the power.

00:58:53.600 Yes.

00:58:53.920 I agree.

00:58:54.200 I've said that a million times, but my thing is this.

00:58:56.780 I get what you're saying.

00:58:57.600 That's ideal, but it's not real because let me, let me explain to you why this will never

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00:59:01.160 Even though it sounds great on paper, why it'll never work.

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01:00:34.800 Just to get to that point.

01:00:38.620 You think he's going to sit there and only hook up with one girl?

01:00:42.060 I always use the candy store analogy.

01:00:44.320 Yeah.

01:00:44.500 And he's banging a bunch of chicks now, right?

01:00:46.080 Did you see the South Park episode they did about this?

01:00:48.780 Yeah.

01:00:49.120 They were all shocked.

01:00:51.200 Like, how is this happening?

01:00:52.140 That wealthy, successful men keep having sex with all these women?

01:00:54.960 Yeah.

01:00:55.120 What's going on?

01:00:55.900 That's hilarious.

01:00:56.140 And it's because, and it's like, even though, even though we should tell guys, exercise

01:01:00.500 sexual temperance, get like, stop doing this, blah, blah, blah.

01:01:03.240 The guys that become successful are going to look at you, throw the, flip the bird and

01:01:07.080 be like, I'm going to continue to do this.

01:01:08.780 I had to bust my ass to get to this position.

01:01:10.400 And one of the first things that guys do once they make money is they start going crazy with

01:01:14.040 girls.

01:01:14.240 So realistically speaking, the guys are never going to stop trying to bang girls.

01:01:17.860 And then the girls that are looking for status and experiences, et cetera, they're never

01:01:20.760 going to want to go keep chasing the top 1% guys because it's embedded in our biology.

01:01:23.820 And then on top of that, it's never going to change because women worked really hard

01:01:27.680 during feminism and they worked really hard to get the same equality and opportunities

01:01:31.060 that men have.

01:01:31.800 So they're never going to go ahead and say, you know what?

01:01:34.740 We want to go back to the kitchen and serve a man and be a dutiful wife.

01:01:39.040 No, they only want to do that for a small percentage of men that are the same guys that don't

01:01:42.780 want to commit.

01:01:43.280 Let me see.

01:01:43.800 We are in the game currently, right?

01:01:45.840 You guys might be able to game.

01:01:47.060 I know you're married and stuff like that.

01:01:48.460 Understandable.

01:01:49.220 I have friends, high value guys, so to speak.

01:01:51.560 They're successful.

01:01:52.740 I see their dams.

01:01:53.880 I have girls that are cool, beautiful girls.

01:01:55.980 I see their dams.

01:01:56.900 What do you see?

01:01:57.860 You see them in Dubai.

01:01:59.500 You see them in Miami.

01:02:00.540 You see them in Costa Rica.

01:02:01.720 You see them everywhere, right?

01:02:03.340 Who's paying for these trips?

01:02:05.220 We are.

01:02:06.500 Now, to be fair here, I agree with you.

01:02:09.300 They should stop.

01:02:10.300 But will they?

01:02:11.020 No.

01:02:11.700 So guess what?

01:02:12.660 And you know, hold on.

01:02:13.280 You know the worst part?

01:02:14.560 These girls, some of them are married, have boyfriends.

01:02:16.980 Wow.

01:02:17.220 And they'll never know.

01:02:18.040 Oh, I'm going on Girl Street, honey.

01:02:19.080 I'll be back soon.

01:02:20.480 Someone's finding them out.

01:02:21.360 I'm just saying, generally speaking, most guys will never stop.

01:02:23.720 It just feels like what we're saying is like-

01:02:25.540 It's pessimistic.

01:02:26.140 I know.

01:02:26.400 You're saying the system is really messed up.

01:02:29.380 And so therefore, let's just enjoy it.

01:02:30.980 Like, I just can't-

01:02:31.900 Not enjoy it, adapt.

01:02:32.680 Adapt.

01:02:33.120 Adapt.

01:02:33.320 Let me put my political mind to all of this and show you the roadmap I see.

01:02:38.020 When I look at this data that these guys aren't having sex, and we're saying that it's the

01:02:43.180 wealthy, successful guys that are getting access to all the women.

01:02:45.700 Yeah.

01:02:46.160 Think about what that means in terms of human civilization reproduction.

01:02:49.280 It means that slightly above average, average to below average, I'm talking about like 70% of men and down are not going to be reproducing or having a hard time doing it.

01:03:01.340 Only the strongest, smartest, most successful, cunning are going to reach a level of status where they're going to be having access to all these women.

01:03:11.080 This means that mathematically, you can look at-

01:03:13.420 Just look at it from a mathematical equation.

01:03:15.300 Over a longer period of time, the standard of-

01:03:18.300 There's a higher standard of men reproducing, and the lower standard of men are failing to reproduce.

01:03:22.380 And this seems more carnal than what society used to be, right?

01:03:25.760 It feels more like what chimps do, where it's like the alpha beats the crap out of their dudes and then bangs all the women, and then all the babies come from one strongest guy.

01:03:35.100 Yeah.

01:03:35.520 There's a problem here for human civilization.

01:03:38.140 When it comes to other animal mammal species and the way they engage in reproduction, it doesn't matter to any of us or anyone in these areas where there are primates or mammals that engage in that kind of pair bonding.

01:03:50.680 But in human civilization, what we do know is, when there are large quantities of men who are unpaired, society breaks down.

01:03:58.520 Absolutely.

01:03:58.720 You get crime, chaos, violence, social disorder, and then eventually collapse of governance.

01:04:04.660 We've talked about this quite a great deal when looking at communist nations and the rise of revolution.

01:04:10.160 It is purposeless young men, and they're going to put that energy somewhere.

01:04:14.760 Absolutely.

01:04:15.160 If we're building a system that has cut off large portions of men from dating, they will figure out something to do with that.

01:04:24.360 And Idle Hands is the devil's playground.

01:04:25.980 Yeah.

01:04:26.140 So while you may say, in the short term, there is a net evolutionary positive in that the smartest, quickest, strongest men are more likely to have families, then you also have to contend with the rest of men will burn that system to the ground.

01:04:38.880 So Andrew Tate is famous for saying this competition being held at high levels, low levels for men always, right?

01:04:45.440 And look at Nick Cannon.

01:04:46.820 He has, like, what, 11 kids?

01:04:48.280 Akon, like, 20 kids.

01:04:50.120 So you're right.

01:04:50.760 The talk guys are getting most of the kids.

01:04:52.640 Trump as well.

01:04:53.580 Now, are you guys Christian, by the way?

01:04:55.900 Are you Christian?

01:04:56.320 I'm not Christian.

01:04:56.820 I believe in God, but I'm not.

01:04:58.040 Okay.

01:04:58.640 So if you're Christian, you know what's going to happen.

01:05:01.160 Revelations, it speaks about it in times.

01:05:03.420 It's pretty much like, this is going to happen no matter what you do.

01:05:05.620 However, you can save a few people by talking to them directly, you know, telling the truth.

01:05:08.980 But my thing is, like, it's going to happen anyway.

01:05:11.520 So don't just adapt to it, be the best man you can be, and try to win, because I think

01:05:14.980 you can't really change it, to be honest with you.

01:05:16.660 But you can change your life.

01:05:20.260 You can make your, like, I'm very much focused on the things that I can control in my own

01:05:25.820 life, and building a fortress around my family, financially, mentally, spiritually.

01:05:33.980 And I know it's possible because I've done it, and I'm not particularly special.

01:05:38.060 Like, I'm not super intelligent.

01:05:40.320 I just, I work really hard, and I've been successful because I was committed to a purpose,

01:05:44.780 and most of that purpose came from my children.

01:05:47.220 Once I had children, it was a different ball.

01:05:49.880 And you can track my net worth and my, everything, from when my first son was born.

01:05:55.020 It was like a flip-switched and boom.

01:05:57.400 It was like a different level of purpose.

01:05:59.620 And to, you know, even to delay that for men, to get experience or whatever, you know, maybe,

01:06:07.820 because I think what ends up happening is the sex, like, just because we're men, we're carnal,

01:06:13.120 the sex becomes the purpose over what the purpose should actually be, which should be to build

01:06:18.400 your, start building your life.

01:06:19.980 Part of that's dating.

01:06:21.480 But, but to say that it's, this is the way it has to be and is always going to be, I think

01:06:27.920 it's just too pessimistic for me.

01:06:29.560 I don't, I don't think that has to be it.

01:06:30.900 Look, I'll go back to the, where I was at when I said society breaks down, because nothing

01:06:34.380 ever ends there.

01:06:35.440 There's always what comes next.

01:06:37.020 And thinking about, you know, as you describe it, if we come to a point where there are too

01:06:41.800 many purposeless, listless men, and they've become sexually frustrated, they've become

01:06:47.440 professionally frustrated.

01:06:48.980 It's hard for them to find work.

01:06:50.460 Not only are they, are they competing with higher value men for, for the sexual marketplace,

01:06:54.740 it's also the physical, actual professional marketplace.

01:06:56.420 And now they're competing with women for jobs too.

01:06:58.780 If this does lead to some kind of social order breakdown, after the dust settles and the

01:07:04.480 revolution, Soviet Union lasted 69 years.

01:07:07.340 Who's going to be in charge of what comes next?

01:07:10.320 It's going to be guys like Jason who have secured and fortified their family and have prepared

01:07:14.560 it generationally.

01:07:15.580 If you have kids, you raise your kids right.

01:07:18.520 When everything breaks down, those kids are part of your network, your, your, your, your

01:07:22.660 protection, your protection.

01:07:23.960 They're part of what will keep your society going.

01:07:26.860 But if you look at a place like, you know, New York, maybe Miami, where people are not

01:07:30.740 having kids and they're very promiscuous, when social order breaks down, those people's,

01:07:35.300 their lines break.

01:07:36.340 They, they're, I'll put it this way.

01:07:37.660 You are more likely to survive a conflict with the family than without one.

01:07:40.420 That's the easiest way to look at it.

01:07:41.280 And then if you look at the math for that, I would just say the equation seems to predict

01:07:45.960 if social order does break down because of what we're seeing, you know, with, with dating

01:07:50.480 apps, with social media, give it a hundred years.

01:07:53.380 And it's going to be people like Jason who are, who are controlling it.

01:07:55.500 I think he just nailed it though.

01:07:57.120 Like the vision I see for what you guys are saying is like turning the entire world into

01:08:02.180 San Francisco.

01:08:03.160 And I'm like, no, but like, I'm not into that.

01:08:05.520 No, but look, and I, and I hear you.

01:08:07.040 Like, and then San Francisco collapses completely and then it's ashes with people like you standing

01:08:12.120 on top of it.

01:08:13.300 Correct.

01:08:13.700 Yeah.

01:08:13.900 But, but the other thing, which I understand what you're saying, like, yeah, you're better

01:08:16.860 off with a family, but what's, what's worse is that you build a family with a woman that

01:08:20.580 wasn't worthy in the first place because you didn't have the knowledge to do so.

01:08:23.240 So my thing is I'm telling guys, yes, build families, have children.

01:08:27.340 We are not against that at all.

01:08:28.660 The nuclear family is absolutely the backbone of why the United States is the most powerful

01:08:31.440 country in the world.

01:08:32.040 However, what I am saying is that most women are not worthy of building a nuclear family

01:08:37.700 with, I want guys to go into the relationships or marriage or anything like that with their

01:08:41.980 eyes wide open.

01:08:42.960 A lot of these women are not worthy of it and you need to pick the best one.

01:08:46.380 Okay.

01:08:46.400 So would you tell them, would you tell them?

01:08:47.760 Cause like, like there are a lot of points of agreement here, but would you tell them

01:08:51.480 that when you choose to slide into a woman's DMS or whatever you do to pick up women,

01:08:56.980 that your goal should still be, whether it's your first one or your 50th one, the end goal

01:09:04.360 should still be consider whether or not you want this woman to raise your kids.

01:09:07.760 Of course.

01:09:08.460 But the thing is, is that, you know, our guy's going to do that.

01:09:10.520 A lot of guys are going to think with their dick and they're going to want to go ahead

01:09:12.620 and have sex with girls and hook up.

01:09:13.980 But what's the idea?

01:09:14.840 What should they do is what I'm asking.

01:09:16.560 Where's the thing?

01:09:17.240 Identifying what you don't want is just as important as identifying what you do want.

01:09:20.620 So maybe you might need to go through one or two IG thotties to figure out, damn, I don't

01:09:25.340 really want to be with these types of women.

01:09:27.180 You know, get the, you know, get that out of your system.

01:09:29.160 So my thing is I want guys to be experienced so that they don't experience the wrong girl.

01:09:33.620 One thing really quick, because I have a friend, he actually is on Twitter.

01:09:37.260 I think it's, um, um, dang it.

01:09:39.620 What was his name?

01:09:40.280 Uh, bow tied, um, bow tied broke is on Twitter.

01:09:44.020 He was a six, five stud back in the day, kind of the epitome of everything we're talking

01:09:51.100 about getting all the girls, you know, he, he had his, his pick of the women and he, and

01:09:55.000 he took it later on.

01:09:56.640 He, he did the same thing.

01:09:58.100 He, he, he got it out of his system and he got married.

01:10:01.820 Um, infidelity was a mainstay in his marriage after he had, from his perspective, he was

01:10:07.860 cheating on her.

01:10:08.360 Correct.

01:10:08.880 Correct.

01:10:09.220 And see, we, we tell guys, you got to be honest about that.

01:10:12.080 I'll never forget what he said to me though, because it reminded me of what you just said.

01:10:15.520 He said, um, everybody told me at the time, go ahead and get it out of your system.

01:10:20.460 And he said, what I found out was it, I didn't get it out of my system.

01:10:24.240 I got it into my system.

01:10:25.540 It never went away.

01:10:26.200 And it never went away.

01:10:27.180 And that's the brain chemistry thing that I'm talking about.

01:10:29.640 So for the big disagreement that I'm, I keep pushing back on is all of the things you're

01:10:34.640 saying are true, except for always have the intention of purpose behind your drive to find

01:10:41.480 the right woman, find the right woman, know what you want, know what you don't want filter

01:10:46.500 as many as you need to, to find that person, but, but don't go into it.

01:10:50.560 Like I'm going to bang 10 women because I can, and I'm high value or whatever, because

01:10:56.180 that's not getting it out of your system.

01:10:57.600 It's getting it into your system, let's, let's, let's shift a little bit and talk.

01:11:00.000 You guys are always going to want to have sex with women though.

01:11:01.780 Sure.

01:11:02.300 That's just being, that's just being, keeping it real.

01:11:03.960 I didn't say, I didn't say you can't have sex, like have sex.

01:11:07.220 Yeah, but bro, like drugs feel good too, right?

01:11:10.760 Exactly.

01:11:11.000 You've got to have willpower and control.

01:11:13.100 Discipline.

01:11:13.580 Like we, you got to teach guys to be able to punch through a brick wall.

01:11:16.620 And that takes time, energy, discipline, and focus not to go, you know, watch porn.

01:11:21.440 And I'm not saying you're saying that I'm saying like, you have to tell them to do the hard thing,

01:11:25.580 but I want to shift.

01:11:26.680 I was going to say, I was going to, okay.

01:11:28.900 Now one more point.

01:11:29.700 I don't want to cut you off.

01:11:30.580 No, no, no.

01:11:30.860 I was, all I was going to say was like, I get it that you're saying, cause men, here's the

01:11:33.920 thing.

01:11:34.080 I talk about men and women and people tend to forget that I criticize men as well.

01:11:38.120 Men are only as going to be as faithful as their options.

01:11:40.120 Typically.

01:11:40.520 That's just how it is.

01:11:41.600 So are a lot of guys going to sit there and exercise, you know, D discipline, as you guys

01:11:45.380 are saying the majority.

01:11:46.740 No.

01:11:46.900 Cause once guys get to a certain point and they make a certain amount of money, they become successful,

01:11:49.900 et cetera.

01:11:50.340 They're going to want to have women.

01:11:51.480 That's why a lot of these guys, they have mistresses, they have sugar babies, they have women

01:11:54.620 on the side, they deal with escorts, whatever.

01:11:56.140 So since guys are going to do this anyway, most of the time when they have the resources

01:11:59.880 to do so, um, I say, just be honest with your partner.

01:12:02.920 Look, I'm going to have multiple women.

01:12:04.420 Let's, let's shift a little bit into the more political space.

01:12:06.960 Cause you mentioned, you mentioned feminism.

01:12:08.920 Yeah.

01:12:09.140 So I definitely want to talk about that in the bigger picture, where we're at with that.

01:12:13.440 But I want to start with this, uh, this tweet from Pearl Davis.

01:12:17.160 Okay.

01:12:17.480 It's got 12.1 million views, one, 1,734 reposts, 34,000 likes has been quoted 3,638 times.

01:12:26.800 And it is a picture of her wearing a shirt saying women shouldn't vote.

01:12:30.280 Should women vote?

01:12:31.840 I think their vote should carry half as much weight as men's.

01:12:35.400 So you're in the middle.

01:12:36.500 You're in the middle.

01:12:37.420 I think women should have the ability to vote.

01:12:39.980 And depending on what position they hold, if they're in the military and they're some type

01:12:44.600 of government service, if, uh, then I think absolutely their vote should count all the

01:12:47.860 way.

01:12:48.120 But if it's just a female and she doesn't have any type of civil service or anything else

01:12:50.760 like that, then I think it should be.

01:12:52.440 And this goes for the men too.

01:12:53.680 Right.

01:12:53.980 Guys, certain guys shouldn't vote either.

01:12:55.420 If you're working at McDonald's, et cetera, should your vote count all the way?

01:12:57.960 Well, so then it's not a question of, in your mind, women.

01:13:00.660 It's a question of, should people not engaged in civic duty vote?

01:13:04.200 Yes.

01:13:04.520 But to be honest with it, let's be, let's keep it a thousand.

01:13:06.900 That's going to immediately put a majority of women as only half voters.

01:13:10.100 Right.

01:13:10.560 Because that's the career fields that that's the career fields and life decisions that women make in

01:13:14.040 general.

01:13:14.600 Do you want to respond to this?

01:13:16.640 I just, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here, but, um, I think part of the problem

01:13:21.160 is that the view, I guess our views of women are so much.

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01:14:52.160 It's different because when I think of a woman, I think of a woman who runs a household and

01:14:57.480 raises children and does the most beautiful thing that you can possibly do.

01:15:01.000 So I see so much inherent value and I think-

01:15:04.780 Which we agree is important.

01:15:05.540 Okay.

01:15:05.900 But I kind of feel like what we're doing here is we've trained as men, women, we've incentivized

01:15:15.720 certain behavior and now we want to discount them because they're giving the men what they're

01:15:21.260 asking for, which is OnlyFans, Instagram, ass shots.

01:15:26.140 And then we're saying now suddenly that they're somehow less valuable.

01:15:29.760 Takes two to tango.

01:15:30.660 Well, right.

01:15:31.120 A lot of the stuff that we're seeing women do, it's like man-art.

01:15:34.560 They're filling demand is all they're doing.

01:15:36.560 Well, we allowed them to do this.

01:15:38.360 So you are correct in that sense because as men, we're leaders.

01:15:40.340 But I will say this, if we're talking about votes here, women are more easily swayed to

01:15:45.380 one direction or another because once again, they follow leadership to depending on who

01:15:49.320 they see as important.

01:15:50.440 So ultimately speaking, if I'm going to go for votes, I swear to women, I'm going to

01:15:54.100 win.

01:15:54.640 So you're saying, but what you're saying is that we as men are ineffective leaders and

01:15:58.560 therefore, because we cannot lead properly that now the women should have a half a vote

01:16:03.840 or no vote or whatever.

01:16:05.280 Like to me, I'm like, I'm always like looking first internally, what did I do?

01:16:10.860 How did I fail here?

01:16:11.780 Or what, what was the point of failure that happened here in leadership?

01:16:15.860 And everything I'm hearing is like men have failed in many.

01:16:19.140 Well, yeah, by letting women vote.

01:16:20.680 So that's how they fail.

01:16:22.880 I mean, let's keep it a thousand.

01:16:24.180 So first I'll address what you said.

01:16:26.040 I believe the science is clear that women are more agreeable.

01:16:30.120 Men are more disagreeable.

01:16:31.000 Correct.

01:16:31.300 Yeah.

01:16:31.460 So it's, it's harder to convince a guy.

01:16:33.000 He'll challenge you.

01:16:33.700 He'll headbutt you.

01:16:34.280 A woman is going to try and make things smooth over.

01:16:36.820 There's a lot of positives to being agreeable and a lot of negatives to being disagreeable

01:16:40.220 and vice versa.

01:16:40.860 It's pros and cons.

01:16:41.520 Men and women are different and complimentary.

01:16:43.200 Yes.

01:16:43.260 Now there's an agenda though, of course, we can go deeper here, get more serious, but

01:16:47.100 to be real here, men are at the helm of this because once again, we put our policies in

01:16:51.540 place, we allow things to happen.

01:16:53.040 And as a result, the family's destroyed.

01:16:54.980 Now, when it comes to women, obviously they're human beings as well.

01:16:57.820 Equally, we're all human beings.

01:16:59.160 But to be fair, when it comes to voting and political views, they can be swayed in any

01:17:04.160 direction, which means by default, they should vote.

01:17:07.100 But so, look, man, let's keep it a million.

01:17:09.060 Women are communitarian in general.

01:17:10.880 They tend to vote Democrat.

01:17:11.980 They tend to vote for, hey, let's give everybody a dollar versus giving the best person a dollar.

01:17:16.500 They don't base, their values a lot of times are not aligned with a meritocracy.

01:17:20.760 They want everyone to benefit, which is cool, I guess, if you like communism.

01:17:23.580 But if you're a capitalistic guy, you want the best to succeed.

01:17:27.140 And unfortunately, a lot of the times women don't believe in meritocracy.

01:17:30.300 They believe in a communitarianism in general, not all, but most.

01:17:33.240 We'll go back to some of the common points brought up from suffrage.

01:17:36.040 Yeah.

01:17:36.340 So this is typically, I feel like it's typically not talked about that.

01:17:40.260 There were a lot of women who opposed women's suffrage because initially it was tied to civic

01:17:47.260 duty.

01:17:47.720 Yes.

01:17:48.200 Men who were voting had to be on the fire brigade.

01:17:49.980 You had to, you could be drafted.

01:17:51.820 You could go and die.

01:17:52.780 And so with that, the idea is like, if we can force you to go fight and die, you get

01:17:57.260 a say in a vote as to who decides.

01:18:00.360 Women can't be forced to go off and fight and die.

01:18:02.720 So they should not have a say in these matters.

01:18:04.840 That's a big part of the reason why I say they should get 50% is because women don't

01:18:07.400 have to join the selective service.

01:18:09.680 I can't tell you how many times we've done the podcast.

01:18:11.420 That's an argument for not voting at all.

01:18:13.020 Yeah.

01:18:13.260 Do you even know?

01:18:14.060 That's what I'm saying.

01:18:14.700 That's why a lot of them should be, it should be limited.

01:18:16.640 I ask women all the time, do you even know what the selective service is?

01:18:19.180 Most of them don't even know it.

01:18:20.060 So, so what ends up happening is, and I have only a cursory knowledge of this.

01:18:23.600 Correct me if I'm wrong for those that are listening.

01:18:24.840 Feel free.

01:18:25.260 I don't think I'm completely right on this.

01:18:26.780 What I, what I read was that a compromise was made.

01:18:30.520 Women were not going to get suffrage because they were like, we don't want to go to war

01:18:35.580 and we don't want a fire brigade.

01:18:37.140 We want the men to do those things.

01:18:38.440 Please leave us alone.

01:18:39.600 And so that caused a point of contention where it wasn't going to move forward until finally

01:18:43.700 the men who are running the show in various, in Congress and stuff and, and, uh, uh, relented

01:18:48.920 and said, okay, women can vote and no civic duty.

01:18:52.260 And everyone said, okay, we agree to that.

01:18:54.480 Yeah.

01:18:54.700 That doesn't make any sense to me.

01:18:56.200 So where we're at now is we're in a completely different world.

01:18:58.560 I do think women should be allowed to vote.

01:19:00.260 However, I don't think anyone should be allowed to vote without civic duty.

01:19:03.820 It makes no sense to me that someone can move into New York city without having any ties

01:19:09.580 to the community, vote to destroy the place and then leave.

01:19:12.920 That's a problem.

01:19:14.160 People, people typically Democrats talk about how evil it was that only landowners were allowed

01:19:19.460 to vote back then, but they're ignoring the context of history in that there were no ID

01:19:23.980 cards.

01:19:24.900 Voting was, do you live here or no?

01:19:26.800 You don't live here.

01:19:27.660 Okay.

01:19:27.840 Well, dude, you're not voting on how we're going to defend, facilitate, expand.

01:19:31.440 That actually makes a ton of sense.

01:19:32.620 It does.

01:19:32.840 If you don't live in my house, you can't vote on whether or not we're going to install

01:19:35.840 a hot tub or, you know, a cold plunge.

01:19:38.900 If you're, if we're roommates, we get to vote on what's for dinner.

01:19:41.260 If you're my neighbor, why are you voting?

01:19:42.840 Like, why, why, why did you invite your friend over to vote on what I get to have for dinner?

01:19:46.340 And now he's leaving tomorrow and you're making me eat garbage.

01:19:48.340 Well, this is why it's so important to have authority tied with responsibility.

01:19:52.020 The problem is that we're giving people authority with zero responsibility, which goes back

01:19:55.700 to the female voting situation, right?

01:19:57.360 A lot of these women that vote, a lot of times they don't necessarily know how the government

01:20:01.180 works, how the economy works, et cetera.

01:20:02.840 And they're over here making very serious decisions and putting people like Sleepy Joe

01:20:06.100 in office who don't necessarily deserve to be there.

01:20:07.900 And when you look at the maps, the voting maps, it's a fact.

01:20:10.960 Women, if they do the map, if only women voted, whole country except for like one state is

01:20:15.000 blue.

01:20:15.260 If only men voted, whole country is red except for like one state.

01:20:17.920 I am not saying that means women should not have their vote.

01:20:20.140 I'm saying nobody, nobody should just be granted the right to vote in any capacity without some

01:20:25.960 responsibility tied to it.

01:20:26.840 There's got to be checks and balances.

01:20:27.880 I agree.

01:20:28.080 That's brilliant.

01:20:28.500 You got to have some responsibility.

01:20:29.620 So get an IQ test?

01:20:30.500 You pass it, you can vote.

01:20:31.680 Well, because that's subjective.

01:20:33.540 You're asking someone else.

01:20:35.520 Like the problem, but people have talked about things like this, tests of merit.

01:20:39.560 Vivek Ramaswamy has said a constitution or civics test.

01:20:43.040 If you're under the age of 25 and you want to vote, you got to pass the test.

01:20:45.060 I'm like, that's nonsense because there's 26 year olds who are dumb as a box of rocks.

01:20:48.060 There's 50 year olds.

01:20:49.180 There's men who are voting.

01:20:50.800 Look, there are a large portion of conservative Republican leaning women removing their vote.

01:20:56.060 Why?

01:20:56.380 They're 50-50 men.

01:20:57.340 Men are voting Democrat too.

01:20:58.860 I don't see a political argument for or against voting.

01:21:02.640 I see a civic argument, genderless, right?

01:21:06.100 I talked to Vivek Ramaswamy about this and I thought one of the, a really good simple idea

01:21:09.740 that we brushed upon was the moment you sign up for the selective service, you're also

01:21:13.960 granted a voter, voter registration ID card.

01:21:16.440 Registering to vote is a selective service.

01:21:19.060 Here's what happens.

01:21:20.100 This solves the problem for everybody.

01:21:22.040 You don't have to go to war.

01:21:23.800 You're not being drafted.

01:21:25.280 The likelihood of that is extremely low.

01:21:27.520 You're simply saying I am willing to be in the event anything does happen.

01:21:31.960 I know there are problems with that because I think the draft is really, really bad because

01:21:34.800 you look at how the United States government has, has changed.

01:21:36.920 It's one thing to say, Hey, we're being invaded to arms, man.

01:21:39.960 It's another thing to be like, we're sending you to Vietnam, you know, in the Gulf of Tonkin

01:21:43.140 incident and all that I'll avoid, but you know, nonsense, false flags, fake reasons for

01:21:47.320 getting into war.

01:21:48.240 But think about what happens if you say everyone's allowed to vote, but you got to sign up for

01:21:52.700 the selective service, men and women, both.

01:21:54.460 You are going to have 95% of low value individuals, men and women being like, nah, I'm cool.

01:22:02.240 I don't want to be involved in that at all.

01:22:03.880 That's a good way to go about it.

01:22:05.020 I mean, yeah, I think it's not perfect.

01:22:06.540 I'm just saying it was an idea.

01:22:07.660 No, no, that's, that's, that's a good solution.

01:22:09.500 I mean, cause my thing is, my thing is if you're going to have authority, you need to

01:22:13.000 have responsibility too.

01:22:14.020 And we've done a fantastic job in the modern day age of giving women a bunch of authority

01:22:17.360 without necessarily giving them responsibility.

01:22:19.320 And that's my issue.

01:22:20.620 Well, you haven't chimed in so far.

01:22:22.440 I'm trying to, I'm trying to wrap my head around the idea of, of, of what it would look

01:22:26.760 like for, for women not to vote.

01:22:28.780 Um, obviously I think women should be able to vote, but, but I'm not arguing that either.

01:22:33.300 I just don't, it's, it's a hard, cause like there is some merit to some of the things

01:22:37.980 that are being said, but like, I don't think there is a solution.

01:22:40.700 I, I mean, I'm, I would consider myself more high value and, and I personally would not

01:22:46.140 want to sign up for this current government to then, you know, draft me.

01:22:51.100 You're already, you're already signed up for selective service.

01:22:53.100 What would just, as being a man?

01:22:54.600 18 years old.

01:22:55.260 You have to.

01:22:55.960 Yeah.

01:22:56.100 So it would just be adding women then.

01:22:58.520 So it's not, it's not even about women.

01:23:00.360 It's about the moment you sign up for selective service, you are registering to vote and receiving

01:23:05.280 a voter ID card.

01:23:06.520 That's it.

01:23:07.640 Man or women doesn't matter.

01:23:09.220 If you're a dude, you say, I'm not signing up for that.

01:23:10.940 Well, then you can't vote.

01:23:11.880 What about immigrants?

01:23:13.500 If you're a citizen.

01:23:14.820 Okay.

01:23:15.280 Not, not, not, so my, my view for immigrants is if you sign up for us service, you should

01:23:19.240 be given expedited access to becoming a citizen.

01:23:21.880 Agreed.

01:23:22.220 Like you're, you're willing to fight for us.

01:23:23.820 Agreed.

01:23:24.120 Follow our rules.

01:23:25.180 You have someone in command telling what to do.

01:23:26.700 And so a lot of people say like, I don't want to get drafted.

01:23:30.160 I signed up for that.

01:23:31.260 Listen, the only people voting are going to be the people who could be drafted right now.

01:23:36.360 You've got people who can't be drafted voting on behalf of us who can.

01:23:40.020 Yeah.

01:23:40.460 That's, that's nonsense.

01:23:41.720 I agree.

01:23:42.040 Yeah.

01:23:42.220 And that's why I said that, that is why in general, I say the basis for which why a woman's

01:23:46.060 vote should only be 50% is a big reason because of the selective service.

01:23:49.100 But if they want to join in the selective service or they want to be involved in civic duty or

01:23:52.500 they want to be involved in the military, police, et cetera, then I'm like, cool.

01:23:55.680 Because a lot of people say, oh, well, women fought for the right to vote.

01:23:59.160 A lot of people don't know what you said before.

01:24:00.560 They don't want to deal with the responsibility that they came alongside with it, with having

01:24:03.940 to be a volunteer.

01:24:04.780 But this is why it's, it's not about whether women can vote or not.

01:24:07.620 It's about whether anyone, like if there's a dude who's like, I ain't going to go fight

01:24:11.680 for this country and it's like, well, then don't vote on our issues.

01:24:13.900 Don't vote on how we spend tax money.

01:24:15.380 Don't vote on, on, on, on how we defend our borders.

01:24:18.060 Yeah.

01:24:18.540 I really do feel first I'll say, go ahead.

01:24:21.540 That's a good solution.

01:24:22.460 Well, it's an idea we brushed on.

01:24:24.040 Yeah.

01:24:24.240 I don't know.

01:24:24.700 It's the perfect solution.

01:24:25.520 I just know that you think about the outcome of that.

01:24:28.840 There's no forced military service outside of a draft at which has not happened in 50 years.

01:24:34.420 I don't see high risk, especially if the people who are not signed up, bro, if you don't

01:24:39.380 sign up for it, you don't get drafted.

01:24:41.420 If you are willing to be drafted, you sign up for it.

01:24:43.880 That does kind of filter out the cowards out of the.

01:24:46.520 Exactly.

01:24:47.000 I don't want to send a guy who doesn't look the, one of the problems of Vietnam, the

01:24:50.180 stories we hear is when they drop these guys off on the, on the first landing beach

01:24:52.960 or whatever, and the Viet Cong are shooting at them, they aimed overhead because they were

01:24:57.160 terrified and didn't want to shoot somebody.

01:24:59.100 I want, I want to know that.

01:25:00.660 Damn.

01:25:01.320 Well, first of all, we shouldn't have been in Vietnam.

01:25:02.820 Yeah.

01:25:03.260 Right.

01:25:03.480 But take a scared young dude who doesn't want to fight and force him to fight.

01:25:07.680 That's why we were like, we better get away from that.

01:25:09.560 It's ineffective.

01:25:10.320 We're like wasting economic reasons.

01:25:12.220 If you think about it in the bigger picture, that young guy who was too scared to shoot

01:25:16.380 at the enemy would be better off making widgets in a factory.

01:25:20.680 Or bullets.

01:25:21.280 Or bullets in a factory where he doesn't have to think about it.

01:25:23.700 Yeah.

01:25:23.940 So you say, Hey, you're being drafted, but you know, you clearly don't want to do this.

01:25:28.020 So we're going to go have you just get a job or not even that.

01:25:30.120 They're going to say the jobs that are available right now are typically in industry and

01:25:33.200 manufacturing.

01:25:34.400 I, I, I, again, don't know that this is a perfect solution, but imagine you see all

01:25:40.200 these videos of people go to times square and they ask questions like, you know, uh, who,

01:25:45.300 what name?

01:25:45.920 I love this one.

01:25:46.660 Name a country that starts with the letter.

01:25:48.320 It's the funniest question I've ever heard.

01:25:51.860 And people are like, uh, uh, and then they're like, you can't think of, I know you're like,

01:25:57.780 what?

01:25:58.060 And then the guy goes, United States of America.

01:26:01.100 I'm like, dude, they don't know.

01:26:03.140 They're stupid.

01:26:03.900 They're really stupid.

01:26:04.380 They're voting.

01:26:04.960 Yeah.

01:26:05.500 They're voting.

01:26:05.940 And then they're voting on behalf of you and you could be drafted.

01:26:10.560 So I'm just like, if, if I have a civic responsibility, I don't know why these people

01:26:14.480 who don't care, don't pay attention.

01:26:16.240 You know?

01:26:16.940 Well, I think that's a good way to get around it.

01:26:18.700 I like your idea because, um, because the people that are voting actually have authority

01:26:23.580 and responsibility, but I could already see the feminist protesting and saying, this

01:26:27.020 is sexist and misogynist, blah, blah, blah.

01:26:29.080 Like, this is just a way for us to not vote, but it's like, no, would taxes at least not

01:26:32.480 be some responsibility though?

01:26:34.220 I mean, like, like I hate taxes, but like, is that not a civic duty to pay taxes?

01:26:40.620 Like, is that a, not enough of a buy-in?

01:26:42.260 I think that the current system we have regarding the selective service is unconstitutional.

01:26:47.520 I don't know if the solution is just to say, okay, to make it equal, women can now be drafted

01:26:51.800 to.

01:26:53.120 Uh, I also don't think that taxation there, like there's already too many issues with

01:26:58.720 modern monetary policy, modern monetary theory.

01:27:02.640 Taxes don't actually pay for things.

01:27:04.160 Taxes, taxes just pull money out of the market to control for inflation and the government

01:27:08.260 just prints and spends as they see fit.

01:27:10.240 The money, the money supplies expanded upon the creation of debt.

01:27:13.600 So yeah, taxes aren't necessarily even paying for things, but so, but I do agree in a, in

01:27:19.340 a, in a very basic sense, you could argue we all pay taxes.

01:27:23.220 Therefore we all get to say, okay, fair point.

01:27:26.100 You can't tell me I have to go die for you.

01:27:28.080 End of story.

01:27:29.120 Fair.

01:27:29.320 And, and, and we either, we either abolish selective service and conscription outright,

01:27:33.760 or we, I don't know that that makes sense either.

01:27:37.760 See, there's a bunch of problems with this.

01:27:39.840 The draft as we know it in terms of Vietnam, we don't want that.

01:27:43.800 Yeah.

01:27:43.920 That's why everyone's against it.

01:27:45.340 This like, we're going to stop communism spreading in a different country.

01:27:47.740 I don't care about Vietnam.

01:27:49.020 I get it.

01:27:49.560 Soviet Union was really bad.

01:27:50.380 We don't want them to expand, but they collapsed in 69 years.

01:27:52.580 However, if China lands a bunch of boats on the beach, boats on the beaches of, you know,

01:27:58.900 I don't know, San Pedro or something, the major port.

01:28:01.440 Well, they're in Cuba right now.

01:28:02.900 Right.

01:28:03.260 But it's not U.S. territory.

01:28:04.280 Yeah.

01:28:04.560 If they actually invade our territory, yo, if I'm, if I'm, we're, we're in, we're in the

01:28:08.360 tri-state, West Virginia, Maryland, D.C. area.

01:28:10.400 If a bunch of boats started crashing into D.C., I'd be like, tell me what I can do to help.

01:28:13.940 Yeah.

01:28:14.100 I'm not going to, I'm not a fighter.

01:28:15.420 I don't think it's effective to hand me a weapon.

01:28:17.300 And if they come invading my homeland, tell me who is running the defenses and I will

01:28:22.560 do what I can to help.

01:28:23.560 No question.

01:28:24.360 That's what conscription was in the beginning.

01:28:26.100 Yeah.

01:28:26.280 You're a guy working on a farm.

01:28:27.580 They run up to you and say, we're being raided and attacked.

01:28:30.800 They throw you a musket and say, let's go.

01:28:32.880 That's why the second amendment was a thing to quickly arm a militia.

01:28:35.780 Right.

01:28:36.180 For nowadays, since the last draft, it was basically like, we're not going to tell you why

01:28:40.060 we false flagged our way to justify the war, to trick the American people into thinking

01:28:43.640 it's necessary.

01:28:44.360 And now we're going to force you to go fight.

01:28:45.780 That's, that's BS.

01:28:46.860 Yeah.

01:28:47.060 Yeah.

01:28:47.600 Because of that, we, we have to have a system in which you can't vote someone to go do that.

01:28:53.200 I agree.

01:28:53.640 I agree.

01:28:54.040 And you look at what's happening with Joe Biden.

01:28:55.760 And this is, this is, this, this gets a little political.

01:28:58.280 It is, it is a fact that women overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

01:29:01.840 Yes.

01:29:02.220 They also can't be drafted.

01:29:03.500 They voted for a political party that is supporting war in Europe, which could lead to world war three.

01:29:08.220 Men did too, but women skew in that direction and they're not responsible for the war.

01:29:13.200 Thank you.

01:29:14.000 Yeah.

01:29:14.180 So now we've got Joe Biden calling in the ready reserves and the select reserves.

01:29:17.560 This mean, this is, this is one of the, this is, this is nuts.

01:29:20.760 They called in people who have completed their contracts in the army.

01:29:24.880 These are, so for those that don't understand, and I'm not an expert on this.

01:29:27.900 I know many of you may be veterans and may understand it better.

01:29:30.340 There are people who are like reservists and we've all, we all know what that is.

01:29:32.860 Yeah.

01:29:33.120 They sign up weekend warriors, whatever you want to call them.

01:29:34.940 And they've been called in.

01:29:36.900 Now you've got people who did their four years.

01:29:39.720 They got out honorable, administrative, whatever kind of discharge.

01:29:43.660 And now they're being called back because there's an extension on their contract for,

01:29:47.320 I think that's called ready reserves.

01:29:48.760 Yeah.

01:29:48.920 We are getting dangerously close to them.

01:29:52.220 And they're sending, they're sending these people to Europe for war.

01:29:55.380 If look, I know we're going to get heavily political here.

01:29:58.520 We would not be there funding this if Donald Trump was president.

01:30:01.220 Thank you.

01:30:02.140 I agree.

01:30:02.540 And it's not, I'm not to say that anybody who doesn't like Trump, by all means, don't

01:30:06.300 like him, but it is a fact.

01:30:08.120 Republicans are split on the issue of war in Eastern Europe, whether you agree with or

01:30:12.820 not, and Democrats wholeheartedly are for it.

01:30:15.640 There's an issue there that people like Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and

01:30:20.120 Democrats are arguing for the expansion of a conflict in a country 8,000 or some odd miles

01:30:26.120 away that could ultimately result in me being forced to go fight.

01:30:29.760 I mean, I'm 37, so I'd be later on in the draft if it ever got to that.

01:30:33.600 But I don't like the idea that overwhelmingly people who are not subject to those requirements

01:30:39.260 are voting to send me to die.

01:30:41.220 Yeah.

01:30:41.680 They're not, they're not going to deal with the consequences and the ramifications of

01:30:45.820 their political choices, which is my issue.

01:30:47.740 Like if you're going to vote, then you need to have some skin in the game as well.

01:30:51.360 And that's what I'm trying to say when I say, even though, you know, we said, Hey, everyone,

01:30:55.000 if you join in the draft, you get to vote or whatever.

01:30:58.480 You know, I could already see the feminist lobbying.

01:31:00.620 Well, this is sexist and blah, blah, blah, because we're not, women are not going to

01:31:03.700 be more prone to go to war.

01:31:04.720 We should still be able to vote.

01:31:05.580 And I'm like, well, I know for a fact by implementing that, that's disproportionately

01:31:08.900 going to put most women in a situation where they won't be able to vote.

01:31:12.320 I'm sorry.

01:31:12.960 And they're going to get mad and they're going to complain.

01:31:14.460 But my thing is that, well, Hey, maybe that's, maybe that's good because you keep out

01:31:18.120 the people that don't care about this country.

01:31:19.400 You keep out the people that aren't patriots, et cetera.

01:31:21.380 And honestly, if you don't care about this country, you shouldn't be voting in the first

01:31:24.220 place.

01:31:24.480 I know this may sound personal by and large, but like we have a podcast, we do a dating

01:31:28.500 shows after hours with girls.

01:31:30.200 Yeah.

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01:32:58.760 In two countries.

01:33:02.540 They can't even do that, bro.

01:33:04.120 So someone came...

01:33:04.580 Well, who are you picking?

01:33:05.100 That's not big.

01:33:06.000 But to be honest, they're both counts.

01:33:08.400 They're both counts.

01:33:09.300 Some of them are teachers.

01:33:10.600 They're both counts.

01:33:11.700 No, no.

01:33:12.260 I agree with you on the teachers thing.

01:33:13.780 I made a promise to myself.

01:33:15.400 They're professionals.

01:33:16.340 Look, listen.

01:33:17.240 I used to ride a motorcycle all the time in Miami, right?

01:33:19.040 I love riding a bike.

01:33:19.980 My favorite thing to do.

01:33:22.440 Every time I've been in an accident, it's been by a woman.

01:33:24.280 Now, to be fair here, to be fair here, right?

01:33:26.800 Here's four guys complaining about living on the podcast.

01:33:29.220 I said I will not let a woman kill me willingly.

01:33:32.420 But with a draft, I'm going to get killed.

01:33:34.920 And she can't even name the countries, bro.

01:33:37.200 What the...

01:33:37.640 No, no, no.

01:33:38.020 Hold on.

01:33:38.880 Let me break that down.

01:33:40.040 Damn, man.

01:33:40.740 I do think it's fair to say that you guys are probably surrounded by average, like an average

01:33:47.040 kind of person, which means you'll run into a lot of people who are not very learned, right?

01:33:52.080 It may be the inverse that we do a political show here.

01:33:55.520 Every woman we've had on the show has been able to name three countries.

01:33:58.720 I have not encountered a single woman, you know, on culture or IRL who's been like, I have

01:34:03.560 no idea.

01:34:04.220 In fact, I'm going to start a podcast for High Value Dad.

01:34:07.280 And I'm going to do my own dating show.

01:34:08.820 And I'm going to have women on who are effing catches, who are women who high value men

01:34:16.560 would be lucky to have as a mother.

01:34:17.960 They're going to be married.

01:34:19.400 Maybe so, but maybe not.

01:34:20.940 Bro, if you can do that, kudos to you.

01:34:23.040 I will join that.

01:34:23.560 That's what I'll do.

01:34:23.980 And then look, exactly.

01:34:26.080 Now, you can do it every week.

01:34:27.340 Coupon every week, bro.

01:34:28.680 Good luck.

01:34:29.720 Because I'm telling you, bro, like that we bring in girls with master degrees, PhDs,

01:34:33.660 et cetera, they're very educated.

01:34:35.180 They don't care about none of this stuff.

01:34:36.440 That doesn't mean anything.

01:34:37.180 But I'm just, I'm just saying like the opposite to me, but that's what I'm trying to explain

01:34:41.700 is that like, regardless of woman's education level or her status or whatever, it doesn't

01:34:46.140 change the fact that women generally aren't interested in a lot of the same, the things

01:34:48.900 that we're talking about right now.

01:34:49.960 I agree with that.

01:34:51.040 And that is not to me.

01:34:52.600 Some are, but a majority aren't.

01:34:54.440 I would assume, I would assume the average woman can name three countries, like Canada,

01:35:00.040 United States, Mexico, not that hard.

01:35:01.420 And you guys are laughing.

01:35:02.540 I don't know.

01:35:02.880 Maybe, maybe it's because you're the, you know, the people you're around.

01:35:07.480 But that being said, I'm not saying the average woman is a super genius.

01:35:11.520 You know what I mean?

01:35:12.020 I'm not like, they're all going to be well-earned.

01:35:14.260 There's a lot of dumb dudes too.

01:35:14.840 I was about to say, I think as a society, we're pretty dumb at this point.

01:35:19.620 So one thing that really-

01:35:21.000 It's both sides.

01:35:21.380 Yeah, both sides.

01:35:21.980 So one thing that came up that really pissed off a lot of feminists was something called

01:35:25.580 the greater male variability hypothesis.

01:35:28.060 You guys familiar with this?

01:35:28.760 It means there are more male geniuses and more male morons.

01:35:34.240 Now think about what that must be like for a woman.

01:35:36.940 The average guy you meet is probably going to be stupider than you, but you're also going

01:35:42.800 to run into a lot of guys who are smarter than you, right?

01:35:45.340 It is, so we'll put it this way.

01:35:48.140 Let's say, I hate doing bell curve math in my head for two different, you've got 100 men

01:35:53.200 This means that for women, 60% are 100 IQ, 20% are 120, 20% are 80.

01:36:03.920 But for men, 40 are going to be-

01:36:06.980 The 100 IQ.

01:36:07.740 100 IQ.

01:36:08.500 And then 30 are going to be high and 30 are to be low.

01:36:10.980 That means women are typically, on average, going to experience either a guy who's smarter

01:36:14.940 or a guy who's stupider.

01:36:16.160 Yeah.

01:36:16.540 That's something guys probably don't understand, especially if they are stupid.

01:36:19.260 Men dominate on, when it comes to the extremes of excellence and mediocrity, men absolutely

01:36:23.420 dominate.

01:36:23.860 And here's the other thing too funny about IQ.

01:36:24.960 No, no, not mediocrity.

01:36:25.760 Failure.

01:36:26.300 Yeah.

01:36:26.640 Failure and success are more extreme for men.

01:36:28.300 Yeah.

01:36:28.560 I mean, yeah.

01:36:28.960 Like there's more, for example, there's more prisoners and more inmates that are men, but

01:36:32.480 then there's also more, you know, geniuses and CEOs.

01:36:35.300 So we got to close the prison gap.

01:36:36.220 So we're on both sides.

01:36:36.940 We got to close the prison industrial gap.

01:36:39.160 Too many men are in prison.

01:36:40.060 We got to get that female number up.

01:36:41.220 Guess what?

01:36:41.860 That starts with fathers in the home.

01:36:44.000 Agreed.

01:36:44.460 Agreed.

01:36:44.620 It does.

01:36:44.880 Present fathers.

01:36:45.800 Literally, that's the start of it.

01:36:47.320 But then you got to ask yourself, who's destroying the families?

01:36:49.200 It's feminism and women in general that destroy the families because they're the ones initiating

01:36:52.620 the divorce.

01:36:53.160 So that's kind of what's going on.

01:36:54.240 I only half agree.

01:36:55.120 I think it takes two to 10 go.

01:36:56.280 Two to 10 go.

01:36:56.880 Low value guys giving women money on OnlyFans is contributing to it as well.

01:37:00.000 And also, also, let me tell you something like women divorce men for a lot of different

01:37:03.860 reasons.

01:37:04.160 And sometimes maybe it's nefarious, but a lot of other times it's because the guys aren't

01:37:08.080 shit.

01:37:08.820 Like the guys aren't pulling their weight.

01:37:10.420 They're not true.

01:37:11.360 They stop, they stop elevating themselves to be who, who she wants to be with.

01:37:16.920 And so you can't just go into a marriage and think like, okay, now I'm married.

01:37:19.940 It's done.

01:37:20.460 Like if you would compare me 10 years ago when I got married today to who I am now, you'd

01:37:24.560 be like, damn, you're not the same person.

01:37:25.580 Which is why you need what?

01:37:27.160 Experience.

01:37:27.660 Because if you jump into that marriage without even knowing how to be a man, you're going

01:37:30.880 to lose.

01:37:31.500 Let me ask you a question.

01:37:32.460 Unless, but not if you're constantly evolving.

01:37:34.600 If you're constantly evolving and getting better.

01:37:36.220 But I don't know as a young man, I need to evolve.

01:37:38.180 I know, hey, you know what?

01:37:38.900 Go to school, get a job, get married.

01:37:40.100 That's all I know.

01:37:40.660 Correct.

01:37:41.060 So ultimately, you need to experience women to understand this is good.

01:37:43.840 This is bad.

01:37:44.340 That women want progression and they want to continue to grow up.

01:37:46.560 But that's only part of the equation because the biggest part of the equation is knowing

01:37:51.240 who is the man that you're evolving to become.

01:37:54.580 The woman is just a tiny part of that equation.

01:37:57.140 To be fair here, 18 years old, do you know who you want it to be?

01:38:00.420 Of course not.

01:38:01.180 That's what I'm saying.

01:38:02.160 So ultimately, I need to know as a man from experience, okay, this is good.

01:38:05.740 This is what I want in life.

01:38:06.440 This is what I don't want in life.

01:38:07.600 Okay, now I'm making a conscious choice to be this man.

01:38:09.960 But if I don't know, I don't know.

01:38:10.920 A hundred percent.

01:38:11.280 So I'm going to flip it on you.

01:38:13.860 Yeah.

01:38:14.740 Men are the cause of all the social problems, not women.

01:38:19.320 Who made OnlyFans?

01:38:20.180 Because they enabled it.

01:38:20.880 Yeah, they enabled it.

01:38:21.580 I agree.

01:38:22.180 Yeah, they enabled it.

01:38:22.580 Tim, you're a feminist, aren't you?

01:38:23.580 Tim Stokely made OnlyFans.

01:38:25.340 Tim Stokely's net worth is $120 million, according to a cursory Google search.

01:38:29.640 I don't know if that's actually real.

01:38:31.620 Holy.

01:38:31.740 These net worth things typically overestimate.

01:38:36.080 He's rich.

01:38:36.700 Or are wrong.

01:38:37.200 A million dollars a day, apparently, because OnlyFans can use to pave the way for people

01:38:41.060 like Bad Baby to rake in a million bucks a day.

01:38:44.600 People want to know who made it.

01:38:45.300 Yeah.

01:38:45.640 Tim Stokely is the founder of it.

01:38:47.380 When absolutely enabled it.

01:38:48.700 I agree.

01:38:49.660 And revel in it.

01:38:50.760 And now we're arguing that now we got to just, what's the word that we keep using?

01:38:55.880 You got to-

01:38:56.560 Repeal the 19th?

01:38:58.480 They can't vote now?

01:38:59.380 You got to adapt to it now.

01:39:01.900 So we created a mess by, the men made the porn, the men made the OnlyFans, the men incentivized

01:39:07.840 really bad behavior that creates women who are not ideal mates.

01:39:13.240 And now we're saying-

01:39:14.280 We can go deeper and we can say, who authorized this?

01:39:17.840 Who wanted this to happen in America?

01:39:19.540 Them boys.

01:39:20.900 Who's them boys?

01:39:22.060 No, no, no.

01:39:23.560 Let me add.

01:39:25.240 Let me tell you about-

01:39:27.020 Yo!

01:39:27.560 I'm going to start as grandiose as possible.

01:39:30.340 Okay.

01:39:30.800 Alfred Nobel.

01:39:32.020 You know what Alfred Nobel did?

01:39:33.480 I do not.

01:39:34.260 I believe he invented dynamite.

01:39:36.340 Yes, he did.

01:39:37.180 And his idea was that miners, people who are mining quarries and such-

01:39:42.380 Not the Epstein-

01:39:43.200 Not the Epstein thing.

01:39:44.020 Okay.

01:39:44.880 Could, it was safer.

01:39:47.080 You go in and you're chipping away and rocks could fall, you could die.

01:39:49.460 That's why if you plant the explosives, you can then leave, get to safety, detonate, and

01:39:54.560 not break the rocks up.

01:39:56.020 One day, a newspaper, I believe it was a newspaper, accidentally published his obituary in which

01:40:00.160 they called him the Merchant of Death.

01:40:02.100 And it terrified him that that's how he'd be remembered, so he created the Nobel Peace

01:40:05.560 Prize.

01:40:06.240 He was like, I got to be remembered for something other than making an explosive that people

01:40:09.640 are using to kill each other.

01:40:10.440 I think it was like the Haymarket Affair in Chicago, someone threw dynamite or something

01:40:14.060 and like, so you know, there's some bad things happening.

01:40:15.680 I'm looking at the history of OnlyFans and, oh, it's just so sad.

01:40:20.400 Tim Stokely got a loan from his father to start a subscription service for performers

01:40:26.200 who can provide photos and clips to their fans.

01:40:29.080 And two years later, it turned into the biggest premiere prostitution platform in the world.

01:40:34.760 I shouldn't say two years later it did.

01:40:36.280 It was bought by a guy who owned MyFreeCams.

01:40:39.560 He acquired 75% and OnlyFans has then turned into the giant, the preeminent hub of prostitution

01:40:48.060 for the world.

01:40:49.300 Yeah.

01:40:49.920 Now, I don't think this guy was intending to do that and he's very rich.

01:40:53.200 So my point is not that Tim Stokely was like, I'm going to create this, you know, deviant

01:40:58.040 debauchery.

01:40:58.760 He had good intentions.

01:41:00.680 A musician could be like, hey guys, I know you're fans of the show.

01:41:03.320 We got bonus member content.

01:41:04.700 You can find it.

01:41:05.440 And then a bunch of prostitutes were like, we're going to sell sex to guys for money.

01:41:09.040 And that's what the platform is now.

01:41:10.220 They say it's mainly used for pornographic creators.

01:41:13.080 I don't think that's correct.

01:41:14.560 I think there's a difference between, there's an overlap between porn and prostitution.

01:41:17.740 When women provide menus for men and they're doing it on Twitch, one woman got banned as

01:41:22.280 a big story because she flashed her OnlyFans menu on Twitch so that guys could buy sex services.

01:41:28.440 I'm telling you.

01:41:29.320 Wow.

01:41:29.560 Porn is, they make a video, they post it.

01:41:32.460 They take pictures, they post it.

01:41:34.180 Prostitution is, you hire someone to engage in a sex act for you and that's what OnlyFans

01:41:38.100 is.

01:41:38.640 I get it.

01:41:39.200 It's digital and online.

01:41:40.120 There's no touching when people don't see each other.

01:41:41.620 But these women are still being paid money for a sex act so that someone else can personally

01:41:45.500 experience it.

01:41:46.580 Wow.

01:41:47.220 Yeah.

01:41:47.680 But my point.

01:41:48.380 That's a good breakdown, Tim.

01:41:49.160 This guy, I wonder what his obituary is going to say.

01:41:51.900 It's going to be, you know, 50 years or whatever.

01:41:53.480 And they're going to be like the guy who completely destroyed-

01:41:56.320 Revolutionized thoughtism.

01:41:57.680 Thoughtism.

01:41:58.380 And his justification would probably be similar to the things that we're talking about in

01:42:02.600 this podcast.

01:42:03.120 I don't do it, bro.

01:42:04.040 In that, you know, it's what society is.

01:42:07.760 I gave the, you know, it just was what it was.

01:42:09.760 I got to tell you, I think that's something someone tells themselves so they can sleep

01:42:12.960 at night.

01:42:13.720 Yeah.

01:42:14.200 You know what I mean?

01:42:14.700 Like, I have to imagine that there's a, I'm a man, his sin is in Cain.

01:42:19.620 What was it?

01:42:20.000 Rosebud or whatever.

01:42:21.060 He's like lying on his deathbed and then he like dropped the snow or whatever, the

01:42:24.280 rose or whatever.

01:42:24.900 And then they're like, what was it?

01:42:26.080 And it was like, he just wanted to sled.

01:42:27.740 He just wanted to go back.

01:42:29.460 I got, I got to believe that there's so many people who start off with good intentions

01:42:32.980 and then built the Death Star.

01:42:35.140 You know what I mean?

01:42:35.600 Like this guy built the Death Star.

01:42:37.000 Oppenheimer.

01:42:38.220 Oppenheimer.

01:42:39.020 Wernher von Braun.

01:42:40.380 The famous quote, the V2 rocket performed perfectly, just landed on the wrong planet.

01:42:45.500 What a sad, sad story.

01:42:47.760 You know, you know this guy's story?

01:42:49.080 I don't.

01:42:49.420 He dreamed of traveling space.

01:42:51.280 He wanted to build rockets to go into outer space.

01:42:54.060 And Hitler was just like, yeah, we can kill people with that.

01:42:56.420 And so that's what he turned into.

01:42:57.760 Oh yeah.

01:42:58.360 That's brutal.

01:42:59.480 Bro.

01:42:59.720 It's like so much, like the path to hell is paved with good intentions.

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01:44:51.900 To a certain point, and I've talked to these guys.

01:44:54.860 Like you talked to the guys who are getting ignored by women.

01:44:57.320 I've talked to the men who have had their families destroyed because again,

01:45:00.560 they got it in their system and they couldn't figure out how to get out of it.

01:45:03.580 And whether that's cheating or porn or like whatever it is,

01:45:08.060 like when you go down that path of the way it molds your mind and creates these neural pathways.

01:45:13.520 Yeah, but they're not being honest with their partner and saying,

01:45:15.940 listen, baby, I love you, but I'm going to have other women.

01:45:17.680 And most guys can't have that conversation with their girls.

01:45:19.220 That's just lying to yourself that that's who you are and that's who you always have to be.

01:45:24.020 Because that's being honest with your woman and yourself.

01:45:26.200 It's accepting that you cannot rewire your brain and change the way you feel.

01:45:31.820 Let me ask you this.

01:45:32.440 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:45:33.360 Why is it that we prioritize the female sexual strategy, her being fulfilled, having a family,

01:45:39.440 being happy, her getting what she wants, et cetera.

01:45:42.040 But if a guy says, I want to have sexual options and have other women, that's demonized

01:45:45.960 and you need to suppress your dick.

01:45:47.400 My thing is-

01:45:48.100 I'm all freedom.

01:45:48.680 If your wife is cool with that and you guys want to engage in that, I have not seen that

01:45:53.820 done successfully ever.

01:45:54.720 But this is what I'm trying to say.

01:45:56.800 Most men that have options are going to want to enact on those options.

01:46:00.480 And I think it's ludicrous that we say women should pursue happiness and they should be

01:46:03.760 able to do what they want and get the fulfillment of a man, et cetera, because men and women

01:46:07.000 are fulfilled in different ways.

01:46:08.160 Women are fulfilled through relationships and typically family and having the highest value

01:46:11.220 guy that they feel they can get.

01:46:12.600 Can we redo this?

01:46:13.300 I disagree.

01:46:13.880 Men, real quick, men want, in general, men are fulfilled by different ways, their purpose,

01:46:18.380 et cetera.

01:46:19.240 But one of the things guys want to do a lot of the times is they want to have sexual

01:46:22.680 variety.

01:46:23.200 And my thing is, if a guy works at a certain point and he wants to have sexual variety

01:46:25.780 and he's honest with his partner, he should absolutely be able to do that.

01:46:27.840 There's a lot that I want to do all the time.

01:46:30.180 There's so much that I want to do.

01:46:31.700 I have two young kids and a family.

01:46:33.800 There's so much that I want to do.

01:46:35.720 And I put a wall of discipline around because there are more important purposes and things

01:46:43.000 that I need to do versus what I want to do.

01:46:46.340 And I think I would love to do, like when you have a child, if and when you have a child,

01:46:51.260 I would love to redo this podcast because I think it's going to reorient the way you

01:46:55.500 think about this issue.

01:46:56.300 I understand that, but I'm saying that that's what, but at the end of the day, you're still

01:46:58.500 choosing to do that.

01:46:59.140 What I'm saying is that we live in such a gynocentric society that we prioritize the

01:47:05.080 female sexual strategy over the male sexual strategy.

01:47:07.240 You can be fulfilled sexually with one partner.

01:47:11.600 No, most men absolutely want a variety of women, but we're designed for it.

01:47:16.120 We're programmed for it.

01:47:16.900 And I'm saying, look, if a guy's going to bust his ass and get to a certain point socioeconomically,

01:47:21.800 physically, be attractive and be able to get a girl and have a family, whatever, I think

01:47:25.500 he should be able to exercise options if he does, if he wants to, with obviously letting

01:47:30.340 his girl know and being honest.

01:47:31.340 The problem is that most guys are not honest with their woman.

01:47:33.480 They don't tell her what they really want to do.

01:47:34.920 They do it behind her back.

01:47:36.020 She finds out and it causes issue.

01:47:37.500 I think guys should be honest about it and if they have the discipline and skillset to

01:47:41.260 be able to build a family, make the money, et cetera, they should be able to enjoy the

01:47:44.000 fruits of their labor.

01:47:44.300 You think a woman could actually respect a man?

01:47:47.460 I'm not talking about stay with him because he's rich and it's high value.

01:47:50.360 You think a woman would be cool and respect a man deeply as the leader of the family?

01:47:54.200 Absolutely.

01:47:54.700 She'll respect him even more so.

01:47:55.880 And I'll tell you why.

01:47:56.580 Women are not the same as us.

01:47:57.960 When a man is able to have sex with a bunch of different women, it's social proof.

01:48:01.960 Women are attracted to that.

01:48:03.000 We are not the same.

01:48:03.600 A woman will like you more when she knows that you picked her over the other girls versus

01:48:08.200 she was your only option.

01:48:09.580 Women and men make very differently when it comes to intersexual dynamics and women.

01:48:13.180 I would argue social proof is one of the most important factors when it comes to being

01:48:16.800 attractive to women.

01:48:17.560 Do you think it would not be more attractive to have a man who has options and has people

01:48:22.480 who want his attention, but he gives it all to her?

01:48:25.300 I mean, we can go on the Maccabellan side.

01:48:27.360 Well, here's the thing.

01:48:29.020 Women do the best when they have competition anxiety.

01:48:32.580 Okay, but that doesn't mean you have to have sex with them.

01:48:34.460 You can have a competition and you can have, like, I'm sure I could go outside with the

01:48:40.380 watch and figure out a way to get that competition, but do you have to actually engage in sex with

01:48:45.400 other women to show that there is competition?

01:48:47.680 The watch is good.

01:48:48.440 Peacocking requires binoculars or something.

01:48:51.000 It's a choice though.

01:48:51.600 I think it's up to the guy.

01:48:52.980 It's up to the guy.

01:48:53.820 My thing is that I think that it's wild that we always prioritize what women want, but

01:48:59.820 what guys want is always a choice.

01:49:01.060 Prioritize the family.

01:49:01.480 And we try to dictate them and say, oh, you discipline, blah, blah, blah.

01:49:05.740 And it's like, no, I built a discipline to build myself up to even get to this point

01:49:08.820 to even have choice.

01:49:09.920 Listen, I think we're both right, but as a man, you should make a choice to do what

01:49:13.400 you want to do.

01:49:13.820 A hundred percent.

01:49:14.620 That's the only thing.

01:49:15.080 Now, I hate to bring religion into this, but you're a Christian, right?

01:49:18.880 Correct.

01:49:19.300 So in the Bible, who was the wisest man in recorded history in the Bible?

01:49:24.040 The oldest?

01:49:24.760 The wisest.

01:49:25.540 Oh, the wisest.

01:49:26.760 You're going to have to educate me.

01:49:28.040 King Solomon.

01:49:28.740 Okay.

01:49:29.360 What do you have?

01:49:30.460 A thousand wives.

01:49:31.180 Okay.

01:49:31.780 Once again, it's choice.

01:49:33.580 Now, added to that as well, I'm not saying you need to do that because obviously it's

01:49:37.260 sinful to do that, but as a man, as you know, we have sin inside of us.

01:49:40.980 So once again, we're going to want to go there, be with other girls.

01:49:44.260 So it's in us.

01:49:45.200 Now, to deal with that, once again, take your pick of the litter, make a choice, and

01:49:50.360 get married.

01:49:50.860 My biggest thing is this.

01:49:51.880 That's it.

01:49:52.160 I just simply want to say this because I don't want people to sit here and be like,

01:49:54.560 my iron sink, like go out and bang a bunch of chicks.

01:49:56.540 No.

01:49:56.920 If a guy wants to be monogamous, be monogamous.

01:49:59.060 Absolutely more power to you.

01:50:00.480 But I know after talking to literally thousands of men and knowing how men think, et cetera,

01:50:04.580 we're way more alike.

01:50:05.960 Most guys do not want to be monogamous.

01:50:08.220 So I say this.

01:50:09.280 If you're going to go ahead and you have this itch and you want to scratch it, et cetera, be honest

01:50:13.340 with your partner.

01:50:14.320 Exercise your options.

01:50:15.360 Get to a point where you're attractive enough where you can even exercise your options.

01:50:18.140 You got to get your money on point.

01:50:19.000 You got to be attractive.

01:50:19.720 This is why we have a whole playlist on making money.

01:50:21.900 We have a whole playlist on getting in shape.

01:50:23.300 We have a whole playlist on understanding female nature, being attractive, and being

01:50:26.320 a holistically attractive man in general.

01:50:28.640 Once you achieve all these things and you have a woman by your side that you love, et cetera,

01:50:33.000 and you're honest with her, look, I want to have other women and you do it in a safe

01:50:35.620 way.

01:50:36.000 It can absolutely be done.

01:50:36.920 But my thing is I don't want guys to suppress what they want to do and follow the gynocentric

01:50:41.700 model of, oh, be monogamous to one woman because you have to be when you busted your

01:50:45.740 ass to get to a certain place to even attract this woman in the first place.

01:50:48.560 I want guys to be monogamous because they want to be.

01:50:50.720 This is the last thing I'll say.

01:50:51.540 I don't want to drown on about this, but I just want them to have choice.

01:50:54.420 That's my thing.

01:50:54.920 I'm not saying that you're monogamous because the woman wants that.

01:50:57.900 And that's the way it has to be.

01:50:58.880 I'm saying that you're going to have a more fulfilled life and a better purpose.

01:51:03.020 If you have a mutually respective relationship with a woman, when you have children and you

01:51:10.440 are a family unit, if I go out tomorrow and go bang some women and I go home and I tell

01:51:16.100 my wife, she wouldn't deal with it.

01:51:18.760 But like, I'm saying that the level of respect that I would lose would not be worth the damage

01:51:25.560 that it would do to my family as a unit.

01:51:28.300 So the monogamy is not because it's what you want to do.

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01:52:55.960 Did I mention that we care?

01:52:59.480 Or because it's what she wants.

01:53:00.480 Well, what if you told her that on the onset of the relationship?

01:53:02.860 If she was fine with it.

01:53:03.940 That's my point.

01:53:04.440 Again, if she's fine with it, that's the freedom.

01:53:06.780 I question whether or not like that's maybe there are some women where that I haven't seen

01:53:11.600 it done well is what I'm saying.

01:53:13.700 I've not seen that model done.

01:53:15.020 Most of them will share a man if the guy is high value enough.

01:53:17.280 That's a dirty secret that women will never ever.

01:53:19.400 It depends on the kind of woman that you're talking about.

01:53:21.460 And that's I think we keep circling back to that.

01:53:23.160 It depends on the kind of woman that you're talking about.

01:53:24.920 I'll give you this.

01:53:25.380 So a dirty woman will not take that.

01:53:27.180 Well, let me let me.

01:53:27.720 The ones that do are solid.

01:53:29.200 I want to go back to a point you were making, which which adds to this about how men like women are fulfilled

01:53:33.260 by relationships, men are by passions.

01:53:34.860 I think men are object oriented.

01:53:36.940 Women are subject oriented in a general sense.

01:53:39.160 Maybe it's only slightly skewing one way for men, but people versus things.

01:53:42.500 Right.

01:53:42.960 That's why the famous the trope and the meme is that a guy will take a picture of an object.

01:53:48.720 A woman will take a picture of herself in front of the object.

01:53:51.900 I mean, guys laugh at it.

01:53:53.060 No, it's true.

01:53:53.580 It's true.

01:53:53.880 But you think about it this way.

01:53:55.560 What matters more that I have a big glass orb or the people I shared a moment with for women?

01:54:01.360 It's the people you share moments with for guys.

01:54:03.120 It's the thing.

01:54:04.080 And I could you can argue pros and cons between that.

01:54:06.480 A lot of guys will look at women like I got a new video game.

01:54:09.220 It's a picture of them.

01:54:09.880 And they're like, oh, these women are so vain or whatever.

01:54:12.000 But then you can also invert and say people matter more than the object in the first place.

01:54:15.400 I'd rather have the picture of my friend and their experience.

01:54:18.140 You know what I mean?

01:54:19.120 But that being said, for a lot of for a lot of women, I think social pressures play a role in whether

01:54:24.240 or not they're going to stay with someone or not.

01:54:26.480 It's about community because society around them has a very strong impact.

01:54:31.020 This is why the data shows young, young females are overwhelmingly becoming depressed and having

01:54:36.140 psychological issues due to Instagram that men are not or young boys are not.

01:54:39.300 For example, women started developing Tourette syndrome.

01:54:42.820 I should say women, girls on Instagram.

01:54:45.740 Wait, what?

01:54:46.080 Yeah, started developing Tourette syndrome because prominent create.

01:54:50.300 So what happens is there's a prominent influencer who has Tourette's.

01:54:53.500 It's like one hundred thousand plus followers and then has these ticks where they're talking

01:54:57.200 and they'll talk and then they'll talk.

01:54:59.580 And these young girls who are watching that start adapting that behavior.

01:55:04.280 I see what you mean.

01:55:05.060 There's a lot of social influences that are picked up through social media.

01:55:08.360 Yeah.

01:55:08.960 Filters are a big issue, but it's resulting in severe depression.

01:55:12.260 Young boys don't experience the depression at the same level.

01:55:14.360 There's a bunch of stories in the news about young, like teenage girls will take a picture

01:55:19.200 of themselves.

01:55:20.020 Then they'll track how many likes they get on it.

01:55:22.480 And if it's below average, they'll delete it and then take another one because they're

01:55:27.700 getting they're feeling pain, like emotional distress at this decrease in the likes they're

01:55:33.520 getting.

01:55:34.060 This affects young boys in a similar way, but not the exact same way.

01:55:37.540 Think about what that means for traditional society where you've got a thousand people living

01:55:42.420 in a small town and it is expected because everyone has this social expectation of marriage.

01:55:47.880 You know, by the time you're 18 or 20 or whatever, you're going to buy a house, you're going to

01:55:51.500 have a family.

01:55:52.020 And this is the traditional world.

01:55:53.420 Then you get a young woman who says, I'm not getting married.

01:55:56.520 I want a job.

01:55:57.320 She was shunned.

01:55:58.260 It was painful.

01:55:58.920 It was scary.

01:55:59.840 She was a spinster and things like this.

01:56:01.460 In these communities, the woman is being pressured.

01:56:04.920 And so I think it's a component of what's called enforced monogamy.

01:56:08.100 Society has an expectation.

01:56:08.940 But it's changing now.

01:56:09.740 We're pushing women towards education.

01:56:10.960 Now it's the other way around.

01:56:12.580 Now you've got on social media, women being told you see that viral meme where the young

01:56:17.960 woman puts her finger through the ring and then it shows her cleaning dishes and she's

01:56:20.900 like, oh, yeah.

01:56:21.860 And people are like, that came out of China.

01:56:23.840 Yeah.

01:56:24.040 Because that mentality that you don't want to be a wife, like she then she looks all

01:56:30.500 shocked.

01:56:30.900 Then she puts her finger in it again.

01:56:32.180 And then she's scrubbing dishes.

01:56:33.400 Then she's like, whoa.

01:56:34.160 Yeah.

01:56:34.700 Then all of a sudden it flashes to her like pregnant, holding a baby and vacuuming and

01:56:38.800 all sad looking.

01:56:40.040 And then she takes the ring up, puts it down and goes, no way.

01:56:42.020 And here's the thing.

01:56:42.620 You said something really profound earlier.

01:56:44.380 But real quick, that's considered, people believe that's a psychological operation created

01:56:48.300 in China to influence people in the West to destroy the family.

01:56:51.380 Yes.

01:56:51.640 And you said something before.

01:56:53.120 Or we don't look at the beautiful things that women do, raising a family, being at

01:56:56.240 home, taking care of the house, et cetera.

01:56:57.880 I agree.

01:56:58.500 That is beautiful.

01:56:59.280 But here's the problem.

01:57:00.700 Modern day women today, just by what you said, demonize it and say that it is bad.

01:57:06.180 So since most women don't believe in the family, they don't believe in having a husband and

01:57:09.560 having children, et cetera, and they want to pursue a career instead, guys need to adapt

01:57:12.280 to that.

01:57:12.580 But so listen.

01:57:13.240 Or demand better.

01:57:15.020 Or Mark Zuckerberg.

01:57:15.880 But you got to have experience to demand it.

01:57:17.420 Mark Zuckerberg tonight could go into the Instagram algorithm and be like, anything that's

01:57:22.920 insulting of the family, anything that's insulting of motherhood, we downrank.

01:57:27.720 And anything that cherishes women and how women want to live, we promote.

01:57:32.000 100%.

01:57:32.360 Changes it overnight.

01:57:33.480 But you know why they're never going to do that?

01:57:35.040 No, never.

01:57:36.160 They're never going to do it.

01:57:36.760 Mark Zuckerberg wants to have a bunch of women?

01:57:37.920 No, no, no.

01:57:38.480 Here's why.

01:57:39.080 Here's why.

01:57:39.980 Women are 80% of the consumer base and they're far more likely to buy things, right?

01:57:43.820 When you keep the genders divided, you're able to make more money.

01:57:46.840 Feminism helps because it's effectively doubled the workforce, okay?

01:57:50.280 Which allows for companies-

01:57:52.680 Suppressing wages.

01:57:53.000 Yeah.

01:57:53.300 Suppressing wages.

01:57:54.280 And you're able to affect-

01:57:55.220 Because think about this.

01:57:56.240 I was talking about this with Fresh in the Car.

01:57:57.480 Think about this.

01:57:58.280 Think about this.

01:57:59.300 Look at the jobs that still pay high that don't necessarily require college education.

01:58:02.840 You're talking about trades.

01:58:04.000 You're talking about jobs that are laborious, that are taxing, that are dangerous, et cetera.

01:58:07.040 Petroleum engineer.

01:58:07.800 Yes.

01:58:08.260 But men are doing these jobs.

01:58:09.820 Why?

01:58:10.100 Because women don't want to do these jobs, but the wages are high in these job fields.

01:58:13.120 Why?

01:58:13.420 Because women don't enter those workforces.

01:58:15.020 So effectively, you used to be able to raise a family back in the 1950s when traditional

01:58:18.380 conservatism worked.

01:58:20.480 You'd be able to raise a family on one income.

01:58:22.400 Those days are gone because of feminism and we've effectively doubled the workforce.

01:58:25.620 And one more thing.

01:58:26.860 Women are 80% of the consumer base, but they control three quarters of the debt.

01:58:29.580 So they're incentivized to keep women single because women are, by nature, consumers.

01:58:35.380 Men are creators.

01:58:36.600 So there's-

01:58:37.260 Just real quick, because you made a very good point here.

01:58:39.920 And this is because America's under attack.

01:58:42.020 The family is under attack 100%.

01:58:44.360 The man needs to be removed.

01:58:45.960 The woman needs to be independent.

01:58:47.060 So she's the one that's seen as the goddess or whatever.

01:58:49.100 You know, the trilogy.

01:58:50.940 The point is that, like, right now, TikTok, social media itself, is a huge, I want to say,

01:58:56.080 detriment to our well-being.

01:58:57.780 And we use it every single day.

01:58:59.240 But how do you stop it?

01:59:00.020 I don't know.

01:59:00.680 But it's on rapid fire.

01:59:02.160 So you guys are familiar with the glass ceiling.

01:59:04.600 Obviously, everybody knows.

01:59:05.480 It's this idea that women can't rise to certain levels or whatever that I actually think-

01:59:10.300 It's a lie.

01:59:10.600 I think it's a myth.

01:59:11.360 Yeah.

01:59:11.560 I think it's born of the greater male variability phenomenon.

01:59:15.420 So what happens is, if there are more stupid men, nobody pays attention to them.

01:59:21.740 If there are more exceptional men, I'm talking relative to women, what happens is, if you've

01:59:27.280 got 60 women who are average, 20 who are exceptional, 20 who are morons, but 30 exceptional

01:59:32.800 men, this means that there is an imbalance in competition among the best women and the

01:59:38.280 best men.

01:59:39.260 If there are more men, then mathematically, there will be more men in higher positions.

01:59:43.420 Yes.

01:59:43.920 Women then perceive that.

01:59:45.240 Feminists then perceive that as they can't get past the glass ceiling they're being held

01:59:49.260 down by patriarchy when it's actually just a component of like the skewing towards, like

01:59:55.180 there's, here's my point.

01:59:57.880 There's something called the glass floor.

01:59:59.400 And this is something that's never brought up by feminists because, like you said, they

02:00:02.840 want CEO jobs with air conditioning, but they don't want to work as petroleum.

02:00:05.260 Wage gas.

02:00:06.520 The glass floor is that, I don't even know if the glass floor is the appropriate way to

02:00:11.780 describe it.

02:00:12.720 It's where men typically have a harder time making money at younger ages and entering the

02:00:17.520 workforce than women.

02:00:18.560 Yeah.

02:00:18.780 For example, entry-level positions in a mailroom, secretary jobs, not prestigious, but they

02:00:24.320 might pay a low salary, typically go to women.

02:00:27.020 Serving positions, service jobs in general, which require less skills, and they pay decently

02:00:32.920 for young people, typically go to women.

02:00:34.920 Absolutely.

02:00:35.100 A good example is serving jobs.

02:00:37.440 Restaurants are more likely to hire women to be servers than men, just on average, not

02:00:40.960 always.

02:00:41.860 And what happens?

02:00:43.040 Women will make tips that will average maybe in some areas 15, 20 bucks an hour.

02:00:47.220 A guy will be lucky to get a job as an apprentice in a heating and air conditioning for a minimum

02:00:51.240 wage.

02:00:52.360 So when it comes to, there's a whole range of dynamics that happen here.

02:00:56.780 The first thing I'll add is, it's never talked about in terms of feminism because they don't

02:01:00.680 want to talk about how it's actually easier for them to get started, but harder to advance

02:01:03.960 based on these issues.

02:01:04.960 I go further.

02:01:06.220 See, in my book, Why Women Deserve Less, which I literally talk about why women deserve

02:01:13.700 less.

02:01:14.300 I go into detail about this as to why, because feminists will go ahead and make this crap

02:01:18.340 up about, oh, the glass ceiling, the patriarchy, blah, blah, blah.

02:01:21.000 No.

02:01:21.320 What we have to do here is we have to deal with female choice.

02:01:23.960 In general, women just choose to do jobs that are less laborious.

02:01:27.420 They're more air conditioned.

02:01:28.240 They're safer, et cetera.

02:01:29.040 Women don't want to go into industry jobs.

02:01:30.860 They don't want to go into science, technology, engineering, and math.

02:01:32.760 Even though women dominate college attendance, they still choose to go into career fields

02:01:37.100 that pay less.

02:01:37.980 So the thing is this, women earn less in general because they deserve less, because they choose

02:01:42.260 to go into job fields that pay less.

02:01:44.060 And here's the other funny part.

02:01:45.320 We've seen it before.

02:01:46.040 We brought her gone.

02:01:46.580 Never forget this.

02:01:47.080 She was in a plumbing school.

02:01:48.520 She couldn't pass the test.

02:01:50.020 One of the tests that they had was using a wrench to open up a valve or something like

02:01:56.280 that.

02:01:56.540 She couldn't do it.

02:01:57.460 She failed, but they still passed her.

02:01:59.340 Why?

02:01:59.600 Because they needed women that bad in the workforce.

02:02:01.560 I came from law enforcement.

02:02:02.900 We had female only recruiting, recruitment events to get women on the job.

02:02:08.000 Law enforcement does this all the time.

02:02:09.280 Other job fields do this.

02:02:10.520 Could you imagine if there was only a male recruiting event?

02:02:13.240 It would be done.

02:02:14.300 We have all these incentives to get women into certain work fields that are male dominated,

02:02:17.580 but they still choose not to get into them.

02:02:18.880 I can simplify it for you.

02:02:21.120 Imagine you're on the third floor of a building.

02:02:24.100 You can't see anything.

02:02:25.260 Smoke everywhere.

02:02:26.620 You feel heat all around.

02:02:28.280 Raging fire roaring all around you.

02:02:30.680 You are sweating and you are terrified when all of a sudden the door flies open and you

02:02:35.740 look up and through the smoke, you see a 100 pound woman.

02:02:39.420 Oh, I'll be I'm dead.

02:02:40.940 You know what?

02:02:41.260 You know what I would prefer to see?

02:02:42.280 I'd prefer to see a six foot five ripped bodybuilder glistening man looking down with us with perfect

02:02:49.680 teeth saying, I got you, babe.

02:02:51.200 I'd be like, call me whatever you want.

02:02:52.780 Get me out of the great building.

02:02:53.700 Cradle me in your arms.

02:02:55.380 And the thing is, is that like, right, they say this right glass ceiling, blah, blah, blah.

02:03:00.040 But the reality is women don't even support women who goes to WNBA games.

02:03:03.300 Nobody cares about female soccer.

02:03:05.180 Nobody because it sucks and it's not interesting.

02:03:08.000 So the reality is that genders tend to fall into what they naturally do.

02:03:13.040 If you look at the job fields, right, that are more socially oriented, dealing with people,

02:03:16.620 women tend to dominate those jobs.

02:03:17.920 Jobs that are more laborious, that are more difficult, that kind of suck.

02:03:20.940 Men will tend to go into those jobs.

02:03:22.540 Why?

02:03:22.960 Because men understand that there's a burden of performance on us and our value is determined

02:03:26.340 by our career, how much money we earn.

02:03:28.340 And we're not able to have a family and even meet a woman if we don't reach a certain status.

02:03:31.840 But women don't have that same burden.

02:03:33.180 So women are able to more to pursue their dreams.

02:03:35.100 They're able to go into lower paying jobs because they want to do it because the burden

02:03:38.260 of performance isn't on them.

02:03:39.460 But I'll add two things.

02:03:40.580 One, with all due respect to women, it must be insufferable to deal with aggressive high

02:03:46.180 testosterone morons because there's more of them than the average male.

02:03:49.900 And like, you're going to get more morons and more exceptional guys.

02:03:53.480 This means that women do, like the mansplaining phenomenon, like, okay, I totally get it.

02:03:59.100 There's going to be some really dumb but arrogant guy because he's raging with testosterone

02:04:03.120 and he's going to be thinking he's so smart when he's dumb as a box of rocks.

02:04:06.740 And you got to understand, if there are 60 average women, you know, in this curve and

02:04:12.100 only 40 average men, that means there's a larger pool where smarter women are encountering

02:04:18.280 dumb men who are saying stupid things to them that's condescending.

02:04:22.240 So I totally get why that phenomenon exists, right?

02:04:24.960 Well, I'll just, I'll wrap it with that, I guess.

02:04:26.680 Yeah, I know.

02:04:27.180 I mean, it's understandable.

02:04:28.160 But it's funny because there's been polls on this and we've asked girls on the show this,

02:04:32.160 would you prefer to work for a man or for a woman?

02:04:34.200 And overwhelmingly, they choose to work for a man.

02:04:35.600 No, there was, there was a really funny, there was a really funny survey that found that

02:04:39.820 when they asked CEOs of companies, who would they rather hire?

02:04:44.120 And they gave the, like, they, no names on the resumes.

02:04:48.220 It was the male resumes without them knowing it was male or female.

02:04:51.400 The female CEOs also chose males.

02:04:54.040 Yeah.

02:04:54.240 It was just like, for whatever reason.

02:04:56.060 You can't rewire human nature.

02:04:58.240 And I think that's, that's, I think what creates a lot of the chaos in this topic is that

02:05:02.120 we're, we are trying to reorient the way humans have behaved for centuries.

02:05:07.080 I want to, I want to add something too, to, to what we're saying about, uh, when you talk

02:05:10.060 about women deserve less or your book or whatever, the point I was making with the glass floor

02:05:14.480 is something that most guys probably do experience is that you're going to get the average guy

02:05:21.500 is going to get a job and they're going to get low pay.

02:05:23.980 Uh, I can speak to experience growing up for me, my friend who, uh, was doing trade work

02:05:29.780 for like 10 bucks an hour.

02:05:32.420 And this other girl, like that was part of our friend group made 200 bucks a night for

02:05:38.100 four hours as a server at a pizza restaurant.

02:05:41.520 No skills required.

02:05:43.660 The restaurant preferred to hire females as servers.

02:05:46.600 Why?

02:05:47.120 Guys will spend more.

02:05:48.380 They'll buy more drinks.

02:05:49.500 They'll tip better.

02:05:50.560 And then the dudes who apply are told like, uh, we don't do that.

02:05:53.640 I'll give you another, I'll give you, I'll get personal with it too.

02:05:56.200 So when I was working in Wrigleyville on Clark street in Chicago, and, uh, I needed a job.

02:06:02.560 I had been playing guitar on the street outside of ball games and in the subway, you got to

02:06:06.380 get a permit to do it.

02:06:07.140 But I was making like pretty good, like 17 to 30 bucks an hour jamming, but I'm like,

02:06:10.600 but I need something consistent.

02:06:11.580 I can't just go in like, it's not the only thing I can do.

02:06:14.280 I got to get a job.

02:06:15.800 Every single establishment said outright, I'm going to be honest with you, bro.

02:06:20.040 We only hire women.

02:06:20.600 Why, why would, why would a bar with a bunch of drunk 30 year old guys want a 23 year old,

02:06:27.800 20, a 21 year old dude working in any capacity in this?

02:06:31.500 Yeah.

02:06:31.880 They were like, look, look, we want the guys to see the cute waitress and come in and buy

02:06:35.980 from us.

02:06:36.460 Yeah.

02:06:36.900 Finally, I found one spot.

02:06:38.620 Like I'm going around.

02:06:39.680 I got resumes.

02:06:40.560 I'm smart.

02:06:41.040 And I'm like, bro, I will do any job.

02:06:42.300 You want me to mop the floor?

02:06:42.980 I'm up the floor.

02:06:43.460 I'm going to clean the basement.

02:06:44.240 You want me to stack crates?

02:06:45.200 I'll stack crates.

02:06:46.140 Finally, some guy goes, all right, dude, I'll tell you what.

02:06:48.700 I feel for you, man.

02:06:51.140 I'll pay you 50 bucks a night to just clear the glasses from the tables and keep your

02:06:55.560 head down.

02:06:56.060 And I was like, shook his hand.

02:06:57.280 Thank you so much.

02:06:58.220 And then what do I see behind the counter with no training and no idea what a Manhattan even

02:07:02.920 is.

02:07:03.200 The woman making two, 300 bucks a night.

02:07:05.040 Yeah.

02:07:05.160 Now I got no beef.

02:07:06.440 I'm always been fairly fairly.

02:07:08.280 I've always been very individualist and more libertarian.

02:07:11.400 Like I get what I can get and the world is the way it is.

02:07:14.460 Yeah.

02:07:14.780 I'm not going to sit here with a picket sign saying it's unfair that men hire women.

02:07:17.560 No, I get it.

02:07:18.140 Yeah.

02:07:18.360 50 year old guy owns a bar, 30 year old guys like eye candy.

02:07:21.560 That's what they're going to do.

02:07:22.920 That's the glass floor.

02:07:24.280 But the thing is, if in our society, in places like this, and I'm not saying it's absolute,

02:07:28.440 I'm saying it's an in general.

02:07:30.400 Feminists don't know this.

02:07:32.360 They don't experience this.

02:07:34.000 There was a, I think it was OKCupid.

02:07:36.540 Are you saying because of how they look?

02:07:39.180 I'm saying that, let me break it down.

02:07:41.380 There was a societal value analytical study done on how people treat each other and access to resources that found that young women are at what is described as social maximum.

02:07:55.700 Absolutely.

02:07:56.200 Yep.

02:07:56.340 And young men are described as social minimum.

02:07:58.720 Yeah.

02:07:59.020 A hundred percent.

02:07:59.300 Around 28 years old, it reaches the inflection point and the inversion.

02:08:02.980 Yep.

02:08:03.160 Where men who are now in their 30s have greater access to resources than women.

02:08:07.560 As women age and become less desirable, again, not a dig on women.

02:08:11.080 This is what the data was suggesting.

02:08:13.100 Then their access to resources declines.

02:08:15.800 So what happens is an 18-year-old woman who enters the workforce is considered maximum social value.

02:08:21.960 You're not going to get a CEO job, but you are going to be able to go on OnlyFans and make a million bucks a day if you're one of the cream of the crop, exceptional women, doing porn.

02:08:29.380 Yep.

02:08:29.560 Because that's the maximum social value for women.

02:08:32.220 Men value sex.

02:08:33.740 Young men almost will never encounter a circumstance where at a young age, they're going to be able to just be a millionaire by going on and being themselves.

02:08:40.520 Yeah.

02:08:40.740 They have to build something, work hard, which is what you were saying.

02:08:43.580 Yep.

02:08:43.820 Two things happen.

02:08:44.660 For these women who have experienced in their life maximum social value, but are told all the time boys have everything and they have nothing, they think the best is the worst.

02:08:57.380 So what happens when they get older and their access to resources decline?

02:09:01.180 Society is falling apart and something is wrong and feminism needs to rise to restore women to their place.

02:09:06.920 Young men who have experienced gutter trash, who are more likely to be homeless, more likely to be victims of violent crime, less likely to find good jobs starting out, slowly start to experience life is good.

02:09:18.260 Now they're getting access to more resources.

02:09:19.760 This is around 28 years old.

02:09:21.240 Yep.

02:09:21.440 And so it rolls off their back.

02:09:23.360 I've been punched.

02:09:24.300 I've been kicked.

02:09:25.040 I've been beaten down.

02:09:26.300 This lady is complaining.

02:09:27.660 I don't care, lady.

02:09:28.520 You can have whatever you want.

02:09:29.960 And this is a component of the society.

02:09:31.820 It comes down to simply to this.

02:09:33.840 Privilege is invisible to those that have it.

02:09:35.420 And women don't understand that they're given their million dollars up front.

02:09:38.620 And I always use the differences of a woman is the equivalent to a trust fund baby, whereas a man is a self-made millionaire.

02:09:45.900 And then what ends up happening is, and what I mean by that is that women get their value up front.

02:09:49.960 When they turn 18 years old, they're effectively given access to a million dollars and it's up to them how they want to spend it.

02:09:54.500 But then, you know, they're 30 years old, single at the bar, buying their own drinks.

02:09:58.100 And then they say, what the hell?

02:09:59.200 Where did all the good men go?

02:10:00.180 I always say women basically mature, wants to start to buy their own drinks at the bar.

02:10:06.120 I want to make sure it's clear.

02:10:07.200 We're not saying absolutely, but there is a social tendency.

02:10:10.360 In general.

02:10:10.640 And I'm not saying it's a good thing either.

02:10:12.120 In general.

02:10:12.460 This is all in general.

02:10:13.180 Again, women want quality until the Transformers transform into their sports.

02:10:18.280 Then at that point, they don't want it no more too.

02:10:20.320 But again.

02:10:21.560 Break that down.

02:10:22.160 What do you mean?

02:10:22.820 Transformers.

02:10:23.260 I don't want to say the word on YouTube.

02:10:24.720 Oh.

02:10:25.660 I mean, of course.

02:10:26.360 It means as in men entering the female sports.

02:10:29.780 Right, right, right, right.

02:10:31.260 And they're absolutely destroying them.

02:10:32.920 I think it's true.

02:10:34.020 Women tend to be communitarian.

02:10:36.100 I think that you said communitarian.

02:10:37.200 Yeah.

02:10:37.440 And men tend to be meritocratic.

02:10:38.700 Even in Miami itself, a lot of girls, they come to Miami thinking, oh, you know what?

02:10:42.060 I'm going to be taken care of.

02:10:43.140 I'm going to be taken care of my sugar daddy or whatever.

02:10:44.760 Or just have a better job.

02:10:46.080 But they realize it's not that easy.

02:10:47.780 And then what do they turn to?

02:10:49.140 Only fans.

02:10:49.980 I can go online, sell my feet pictures, make 100K or 200K a month and be chilling.

02:10:55.500 Women get mad at me when I say that women in general have more opportunities and live

02:10:59.440 life on easy mode.

02:11:00.220 They get mad when I say that.

02:11:01.100 But I truly mean, if a girl's attractive or even mildly attractive, she's going to have

02:11:05.100 far more opportunities than a guy.

02:11:06.880 You know, it's actually, as we're getting close to wrapping up, I'll just point this

02:11:10.540 out.

02:11:10.940 Yeah.

02:11:11.080 So, I think a large portion of the women we've had on Timcast IRL are in favor of repealing

02:11:16.980 the 19th Amendment.

02:11:18.240 Oh, W women.

02:11:19.880 I'm not kidding.

02:11:20.920 W.

02:11:21.600 And yeah, it's like a joke where all of the guys will be like, no, no, there's like women

02:11:27.020 should vote.

02:11:27.500 And the women are like, no.

02:11:28.980 And it's weird.

02:11:29.860 But what I think is, I think a lot of-

02:11:33.360 They even know.

02:11:34.140 W.

02:11:34.360 No, no, but listen, women who are political and learned on a lot of these issues probably

02:11:41.080 agree with the components.

02:11:43.800 I don't think they'd agree with the solutions you propose.

02:11:46.120 They would agree with the problems that are occurring.

02:11:49.320 When you talk about women's value and all that, they'll completely agree with you on

02:11:52.080 that.

02:11:52.740 I think the women we have here would probably fall more into your camp about wanting to

02:11:56.380 be married from looking at it holistically and generationally, but would also then be like,

02:12:01.040 women shouldn't vote.

02:12:02.300 It's kind of, I don't know, it's weird.

02:12:03.220 I guess my point is, I think the political women we've had on the show, on our show,

02:12:08.300 agree with you guys on the issues of social dynamics.

02:12:11.700 Yeah.

02:12:12.680 And again, like I said, it's, you know, feminism is a part of this and everything else like

02:12:16.860 that.

02:12:17.080 But yeah, I mean, it's, dude, it's simple.

02:12:19.080 Like women have more opportunity now than they've ever had before because they're able

02:12:21.800 to be treated as equal while Samuelsini still being able to get certain benefits and

02:12:26.160 situations given to them simply because they're females.

02:12:28.620 I want to-

02:12:29.220 Do you want to make a point?

02:12:29.780 I just want to make one point.

02:12:30.580 Just because, you know, I think a lot of everything you guys are talking about comes down to societal

02:12:38.020 programming of what we've been kind of trained by media and everything else to believe about

02:12:43.660 how society should be today.

02:12:45.300 And if you, if you really, a lot, a lot of what you're saying is based on how, how your

02:12:53.280 mind currently thinks, right?

02:12:55.000 Of, of what you want and what it looks like it is.

02:12:58.220 And all I'm, all I want to try to get across before we wrap is like, do me a favor, do a

02:13:05.180 little more digging into why you think the way you think, what experiences have led you to that.

02:13:12.980 And then also understand that your mind, your brain might be controlling you and not the other

02:13:18.580 way around.

02:13:19.100 A lot of people don't understand that they control the mind and they get to program the mind.

02:13:23.600 The mind doesn't get to program you if you decide to do that.

02:13:27.000 And so all of these things of, of the way women and men interact in the world, um, we're,

02:13:33.640 we're not slaves to it.

02:13:35.080 We can chart our own path and our own mindset of, of what we want our relationships to look

02:13:39.560 like.

02:13:40.000 And again, if everybody's happy and healthy, that's good, but I don't want to, want to

02:13:44.060 get into such a binary generalization that, that men think that women are this way or men

02:13:49.040 are this way.

02:13:49.580 Right.

02:13:49.760 That's why I say like tendencies or, or, you know, not absolutes.

02:13:52.420 Yeah.

02:13:52.640 But you, you also have to be able to look at trends and you also have to look at the world for

02:13:55.760 the way that it is.

02:13:56.420 And I would say our view on it and our adaptations is a very practical solution to dealing with

02:14:01.960 a deregulated sexual marketplace where women have significantly changed.

02:14:06.160 Like, I think your strategy is, is, is very viable.

02:14:09.200 Maybe 50, 60 years ago when women were different and you were, you know, you were more self-assured

02:14:13.440 that you could find a woman that had family duties, that was more, um, less promiscuous,

02:14:17.960 had family values, was religious.

02:14:19.600 There was social shame.

02:14:20.440 There was social shame for being a hoe.

02:14:22.580 There was not Instagram.

02:14:23.560 There wasn't the internet, et cetera.

02:14:24.580 But in today's modern day society where we live in a deregulated sexual marketplace.

02:14:28.360 And what I mean by that is that you can literally hook up with anyone.

02:14:30.740 As long as there's an age of consent, et cetera, you need, guys need to move differently and

02:14:35.080 adapt to the normal.

02:14:36.200 And I would say, don't follow the trend though.

02:14:37.880 Make the chart your own path.

02:14:39.020 I think that's kind of my whole point.

02:14:40.220 I get that.

02:14:40.760 You're following a trend.

02:14:41.800 But you have to chart your own path.

02:14:43.000 But here's the thing.

02:14:43.640 If you're going to, if you're going to go like MGTOW and not deal with women, that's

02:14:46.760 cool.

02:14:46.980 Then fine.

02:14:47.460 But if you're going to deal with the opposite gender and chart your own path, you have to

02:14:51.380 be aware of what's in your path to a degree.

02:14:53.980 You need a better filter.

02:14:55.020 And see, I agree.

02:14:55.900 You have many good points, bro.

02:14:56.940 A hundred percent.

02:14:57.600 I'm glad you came to the show.

02:14:58.620 I actually had a mind shift.

02:15:00.100 We agree with most of what you say.

02:15:01.720 But I will say this though.

02:15:02.860 I will say this.

02:15:03.920 It's good until it goes bad.

02:15:05.280 So we're telling guys, understand the bad so you can understand the good and appreciate it.

02:15:09.340 But ultimately speaking, bro, a shout out to you for coming on.

02:15:11.520 I appreciate your point of view as well.

02:15:13.560 We agree on the family and the nuclear family is the backbone.

02:15:15.840 We agree.

02:15:16.240 If you ever get divorced, turn to our podcast.

02:15:19.780 Okay, cool.

02:15:21.200 No, I think Jason will be all right.

02:15:22.900 Yeah.

02:15:23.180 I think I'll be okay.

02:15:25.360 He's going to have a lot of grandkids.

02:15:27.020 It really comes down to when you really make a commitment with somebody who is focused

02:15:33.600 on the family's first over everything.

02:15:35.900 We've had ups and downs and problems.

02:15:37.380 Marriage is not easy.

02:15:38.420 Of course.

02:15:39.240 Do not let me fool you into thinking marriages.

02:15:41.500 We've had some hard things that we've had to go through.

02:15:44.280 I mean, my son almost died when he was 18 months old.

02:15:46.900 And so we've been through a lot.

02:15:48.920 But it's really when you stop looking at what do I want?

02:15:54.100 What are the things that I'm desiring?

02:15:55.860 And it becomes more of what are we building together?

02:15:58.640 That's when it gets really exciting.

02:16:00.080 And failure just becomes not an option.

02:16:02.820 No, you found a good one.

02:16:03.680 And here's the important thing.

02:16:04.920 You just mentioned duty, right?

02:16:06.120 And in a marriage, here's the scary thing.

02:16:10.240 We've had women come on our podcast and literally say, I left the marriage because I wasn't happy.

02:16:14.740 That's how so many modern day women think.

02:16:16.460 They think marriage is about personal happiness.

02:16:19.700 It's not about duty anymore.

02:16:21.060 That's why I'm telling guys, find the girls that are willing to make it about duty and not personal happiness.

02:16:25.720 Luckily for you, you found a girl that was about duty.

02:16:27.640 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

02:16:28.300 Wouldn't that be a woman who's like, I'm not going to sleep with you right away?

02:16:31.400 We have to have plans, boundaries, and duty?

02:16:34.760 No.

02:16:35.360 I mean, I'm talking about the family preservation duty is what I mean.

02:16:39.280 How are you going to find them if you're just banging them?

02:16:41.380 That's the point.

02:16:42.020 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

02:16:42.360 Hold on.

02:16:42.960 I see what you're saying.

02:16:43.840 But wouldn't the ideal woman be the woman who says, I am not going to bang you?

02:16:48.000 No.

02:16:48.480 I'll tell you why.

02:16:49.420 Because, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

02:16:52.440 Genuine desire.

02:16:53.440 He's going somewhere.

02:16:54.260 He goes both ways.

02:16:55.020 All right.

02:16:55.260 So, ultimately, if I'm a guy, right?

02:16:58.240 I like a girl.

02:16:58.780 She looks great to me.

02:16:59.560 I'm into her.

02:17:00.620 Off point.

02:17:01.700 If a girl's going on a date with you, she's trying to figure out, okay, is he actually

02:17:05.040 a guy I want to be with?

02:17:06.000 Is he going to be sexually appealing to me?

02:17:07.660 He's actually going to be not turning me off?

02:17:09.240 Okay.

02:17:09.440 He passed all these barriers here.

02:17:11.420 All right.

02:17:11.560 I'll give him a shot.

02:17:12.480 Now, if that happens the first day, second date, third date, cool.

02:17:16.320 Now, if she makes you wait a week, a month, two months, why is she making you wait?

02:17:21.400 Ask the question.

02:17:21.980 It's because she doesn't see the value in you to say, you know what?

02:17:25.220 He's worth me betting my life on.

02:17:26.820 Women leverage sex for compliance against men that they don't deem worthy.

02:17:31.060 So, I'm not telling you to, like, if a girl doesn't give it to you to, like, get rid

02:17:34.040 of her.

02:17:34.160 I'm not saying that.

02:17:34.920 What I am saying, though, is that don't let a woman famoose you thinking, I'm going to

02:17:39.740 leverage sexuality against you for compliance and get resources and time in exchange.

02:17:43.400 Don't go on a date with a woman who's just hungry.

02:17:45.220 Yeah.

02:17:45.620 Yeah, pretty much.

02:17:46.400 Because so many guys go out with these girls thinking that there's desire, but there really

02:17:50.060 isn't.

02:17:50.860 Dude, girls are smart.

02:17:52.260 They know.

02:17:52.960 Okay, I'll make them wait.

02:17:54.120 Because guess what you would think?

02:17:55.460 I'm pure.

02:17:56.280 I'm different.

02:17:57.580 I guarantee you, Chad down the street, they had to wait.

02:18:00.760 First night.

02:18:01.600 And he dumped her.

02:18:02.940 Second date.

02:18:03.520 Negotiating in bad faith.

02:18:04.580 So, it's like, who's really safe?

02:18:06.080 But I agree.

02:18:07.180 If a guy could find a girl that's going to prioritize duty over her personal happiness,

02:18:11.200 fantastic.

02:18:11.760 But I think guys need to go out there and deal with a bunch of women to figure out who

02:18:14.700 that woman will be.

02:18:16.300 Right on.

02:18:16.940 Any final, final thoughts?

02:18:18.380 We'll wrap up.

02:18:18.860 And you guys want to shout anything out?

02:18:20.380 Yeah.

02:18:21.220 Check us out on Rumble.

02:18:22.000 Rumble.com slash FreshFit.

02:18:23.140 We're also on YouTube.

02:18:25.480 I love that, by the way.

02:18:26.380 We got a huge interview.

02:18:27.440 Follow us on Rumble.

02:18:28.340 Oh, we're also on YouTube.

02:18:29.500 Yeah.

02:18:30.460 Shout out to Rumble, man.

02:18:31.540 Yeah.

02:18:32.040 And we got a huge interview coming next month as well.

02:18:34.740 Stay tuned for that.

02:18:35.700 Yeah.

02:18:35.860 And then we're going to talk to Tim as well, because he's been trying to hide from us.

02:18:38.400 Yes.

02:18:38.620 We're going to connect him from the interview.

02:18:40.300 Listen, Tim comes to Fort Lauderdale, right?

02:18:42.700 Yeah.

02:18:43.120 And surprisingly, he just leaves.

02:18:45.660 But we're here too, man.

02:18:46.680 I was at Seminole playing poker.

02:18:48.740 Oh, man.

02:18:49.780 First of all, we had like four hours outside of work, and I was definitely going to the

02:18:54.700 Hard Rock.

02:18:55.460 I've seen too many Instagram videos.

02:18:56.600 I was like, this is going to be so much fun.

02:18:57.320 It was a blast.

02:18:58.020 Yeah.

02:18:58.300 Come with us, man.

02:18:59.140 We'll show you a good time in Miami, too.

02:19:00.340 Yeah.

02:19:00.560 We got you, bro.

02:19:00.980 We're coming down in October for the event.

02:19:03.560 I think we'll be there all week, actually.

02:19:05.120 We're going to be there for a full week, and then we're doing a show.

02:19:08.140 Actually, the tickets are on TimCast.com.

02:19:10.460 You guys should buy them.

02:19:11.440 We got Patrick, Bat David, Don Trump Jr., Matt Gaetz, me and Luke Rutkowski as your hosts.

02:19:16.720 And we're going to be giving away a bunch of stuff sponsored by Public Square.

02:19:18.680 Really excited for it.

02:19:19.400 We should be lit.

02:19:19.940 We should go, man.

02:19:20.680 Yeah.

02:19:20.840 No.

02:19:21.060 We'll probably pull up.

02:19:22.020 Fort Lauderdale's about 30 minutes up.

02:19:23.500 So, yeah.

02:19:23.800 We'll go.

02:19:24.280 But, yeah.

02:19:24.440 Guys, check us out.

02:19:25.040 Rumble.com slash FreshFit.

02:19:26.380 And we're also on YouTube, too.

02:19:28.040 The event's in Miami.

02:19:29.000 Yeah.

02:19:29.340 No.

02:19:29.660 Oh.

02:19:29.960 Perfect.

02:19:30.440 Oh.

02:19:30.680 Okay.

02:19:31.000 We'll definitely pull up.

02:19:31.640 So, we get VIP?

02:19:33.960 Probably.

02:19:34.520 There's no VIP, but you guys will probably just be hanging out backstage or something.

02:19:37.360 Yeah.

02:19:37.540 Cool.

02:19:37.820 If that is, I guess.

02:19:39.100 We'll pull up.

02:19:39.560 We'll figure it out.

02:19:40.060 We'll come, man.

02:19:40.480 Support.

02:19:41.140 The only pitch I got.

02:19:42.820 So, HighValueDad.com is the new fatherhood group.

02:19:45.920 And we are, you know, I'm doing a lot more than talking.

02:19:47.520 So, we're actually just announced our first retreat.

02:19:49.940 It's going to be elite.

02:19:52.160 So, I went out and found some special ops guys who were like, you know, 20-year Navy SEAL

02:19:57.260 who did BUDS training and a 160th Night Stalker pilot.

02:20:01.100 Like, just really elite guys to put together the programming and really put together a really

02:20:05.720 great plan to give men, fathers, and business owners kind of their roadmap, their battle plan

02:20:12.100 to kind of level up in their families and in their businesses.

02:20:14.600 That's dope, man.

02:20:14.860 That's awesome.

02:20:15.660 So, HighValueDad.com.

02:20:16.640 It'll be in October, October 19th in Breckenridge, Colorado.

02:20:20.060 So, if you're interested, hit it up.

02:20:21.560 Right on.

02:20:22.480 All right, everybody.

02:20:23.520 Like I said, we got tickets available at TimCast.com for the Miami event.

02:20:27.260 Get them while you can.

02:20:28.300 I guess they were supposed to be only for members for the first half an hour.

02:20:32.720 And then after that, it was supposed to be open to the public.

02:20:34.140 And then we just only had it locked for members.

02:20:35.860 So, I believe it now should be working.

02:20:38.840 But either way, we'll have it up ready to go tonight.

02:20:41.540 And for those that are members at TimCast.com, you can easily just log into the website

02:20:44.620 and you can buy your tickets now, probably ahead of the general public.

02:20:48.320 But check it out.

02:20:49.020 You can follow me personally at TimCast everywhere.

02:20:51.780 And we will be back tonight at 8 p.m. for TimCast IRL.

02:20:54.940 And we'll see you all then.

The Culture War - Tim Pool - August 25, 2023

The Culture War #27 - Dating, Masculinity, Men's Issues & Marriage w⧸Fresh & Fit, Jason Howerton

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