The Culture War - Tim Pool - The Culture War #33 - Global Day Of Jihad, AI Warfare w⧸Ann Coulter & Dinesh D'Souza

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00:00:57.060 So today is the announced Global Day of Jihad. Police are mobilizing across the country to keep

00:01:05.380 an eye on things. There's planned protests. I think it may devolve into riots. I hope nothing

00:01:09.300 more serious happens, but a lot of people are particularly worried. Not only that, it is Friday

00:01:12.760 the 13th, so I don't know. It's ominous. And then tomorrow is the Ring of Fire eclipse.

00:01:19.140 Everyone's kind of wondering if like, you know, I don't know all these signs, but I don't know.

00:01:23.400 It depends on who you are. Maybe the signs don't mean anything. It's all one big coincidence.

00:01:26.300 But we're going to talk about a lot having to do with the Global Day of Jihad,

00:01:30.540 obviously the conflict that's happening in Israel and Palestine, as well as what's going on with

00:01:34.480 Donald Trump and the GOP contenders. We've got a bunch of really awesome people. We're hanging

00:01:38.500 out with Ann Coulter and Dinesh D'Souza. How's it going?

00:01:41.180 Great. Good to be here.

00:01:42.620 Yeah. Thanks for coming.

00:01:44.480 Thank you for having me again.

00:01:46.120 Do you want to briefly introduce yourself? I think everybody knows who you are, but...

00:01:48.800 Ann Coulter, author of 13 New York Times bestsellers. Am I supposed to look at that camera?

00:01:54.440 You don't have to look at it.

00:01:57.000 And this is my second time in the Tim Pool studio. The last time, we couldn't figure out

00:02:02.960 when it was. I guess it was back in March. I wrote in Trump We Trust. I supported Trump

00:02:09.920 from two weeks after he announced, mostly on the issue of immigration, which, oh my gosh,

00:02:15.760 we're seeing the results of our immigration policy right now. What a topical issue.

00:02:21.860 Our immigration policy has been fantastic. You see it in protests supporting Hamas all

00:02:27.200 over the country right now. And then he didn't keep any of his promises. Thus, we're dealing

00:02:33.100 with the vast migrant crisis because of Biden, because we don't have a wall. And that's me.

00:02:40.120 And now, actually, there's a big concern with today being this announced day of jihad or whatever.

00:02:45.040 There's concerns. McCarthy and DeSantis brought this up. Terrorists could have come through

00:02:49.420 the southern border. We'd have no idea. In fact, I think they've actually stopped 160 to 200 people

00:02:55.200 on the terror watch list. Oh, yeah. They do it all the time.

00:02:58.160 Right. It went on during even through the Trump administration. That's why, again, isn't just some

00:03:03.800 crazy freakish thing besides the fact that he said it at every single effing rally. We really need a

00:03:09.220 wall. Anyone who says we're going to protect, secure the border. They all say that. They all say that.

00:03:14.980 We need to secure the border. Anyone who says we need to secure the border without a wall is lying

00:03:19.860 because that is the only way to secure a border. We'll get into all that. Dinesh, how's it going?

00:03:24.920 Hey, I'm Dinesh D'Souza. I am an author, filmmaker, and about to release my new film, number seven,

00:03:34.240 Police State. And, you know, I think the way that the new film ties in with all this is that

00:03:41.300 there's been a massive intelligence failure, but not just in Israel. Our intelligence agencies were

00:03:46.880 clueless also. And why were they clueless? We gave them all this police power, all this surveillance

00:03:52.560 power after 9-11. I mean, me included. I plead guilty to that. But it seems that they have shifted

00:03:58.840 their gaze. Instead of focusing on the jihadis abroad out to kill us and damage our allies,

00:04:04.800 they're focused on some grandmom who strolled into the Capitol for like 10 minutes in January 6th and took

00:04:09.820 a few photos and chatted with the cops and then was back out on the street. So I think that the

00:04:16.580 police agencies of government are too busy building a police state at home to be doing their real job

00:04:23.080 with foreign terrorists abroad. Yeah. Hannah-Claire Brimelow is hanging out with us.

00:04:27.120 Hey, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimelow. I'm a writer for TimCast News. I'm really grateful to be here with

00:04:30.900 two people who can speak to how we got here and what we do now that we're facing all this global

00:04:35.300 tension. Kellan's here today pushing the buttons. And I think we're ready. It's all right.

00:04:40.160 Yeah. Well, I think we have two really great points right now with immigration and the failure

00:04:46.140 of our security apparatus. When these laws are being put in place and the Patriot Act is being

00:04:51.340 signed, it's like, oh, look, we've got these terrorists who want to hurt us. You've got,

00:04:54.360 you know, after 9-11. Now it seems like they just don't even care about any of that. The border is wide

00:04:59.500 open. Kevin McCarthy and Rhonda Sanders are saying we could have terrorists coming to the southern

00:05:03.920 border, sleeper cells, people who hate us and despise us, and they're completely ignored.

00:05:07.920 What's the purpose of the Patriot Act if we're like, come on in without being checked? Now we're

00:05:12.260 on this day, they're saying is the day of global jihad. You've got a bunch of news outlets saying

00:05:16.780 Hamas has called for protests. I'm like, I'm pretty sure after what they just did in Israel,

00:05:22.740 killing children, this is not a call for protests, right? And Dinesh brings up a good point.

00:05:29.520 Our intelligence agencies are so concerned that there are Trump supporters upset with the state

00:05:36.760 of the government that they're focused on them, and this leaves us vulnerable.

00:05:41.680 I mean, when you hear Christopher Wray testifying, I kind of look to see, is he joking? Like,

00:05:47.000 is he speaking with a straight face? They all do. Merrick Garland, too. In fact, he'll talk about,

00:05:52.920 oh, I have relatives who were killed in the Holocaust. I've learned the lessons of the Holocaust.

00:05:56.540 We've got to abide by the rule of law. And so our police state is a little unique in that it

00:06:03.580 marches behind the banner of law and democracy and fighting for truth and suppressing disinformation

00:06:11.740 and misinformation. Normally, police states don't have to give reasons, right? Ms. Gallen,

00:06:16.500 they come to get you on the train. They just smash you on the head and they cart you away. They don't

00:06:20.480 have to tell you why you're being arrested. But our police state is, I'd say it's in the making.

00:06:26.080 It's under construction. So it needs a lot of lies and a lot of masquerade. And that's what we're

00:06:31.700 getting from the Biden administration. And what's the objective in the end?

00:06:36.360 Well, on the border, I think that their objective is this. You can't build a police state if you don't

00:06:41.580 have a constituency large enough that's going to help you do that. And the Democrats don't have

00:06:46.840 that yet. The country is too closely divided. So they're like, listen, if we can let in 10,

00:06:52.280 20, 30 million people, let's just say over the next 10 years, we now have a new America. We have

00:06:57.860 a working majority. We're basically back to FDR in the 1930s and 40s when America was a one-party

00:07:04.740 state. But the Democrats weren't the same gangsters that they are now. So I think that's their motive

00:07:10.020 for the open border. They have to have a reason for it. They're not trying to import jihadis.

00:07:14.600 They just don't care. For the same reason, they don't care about child trafficking. They know

00:07:18.680 what's going on. They're not for the cartels, but they know that cartels are needed to grab

00:07:23.540 people in Central and South America and bring them 2,000 miles to the border. So they're working

00:07:29.000 hand in hand with these guys. But I think that is their objective. Their objective is political.

00:07:34.260 I disagree with almost everything you just said. For one thing, I mean, yes, the police state,

00:07:40.340 it's not a police state, but the bad behavior by the police is very bad. It was bad what they did

00:07:45.320 to the Proud Boys in New York under Donald Trump, who then, by the way, disavowed the Proud Boys.

00:07:50.740 You know, there's your big hero. It was bad what they did to the January 6th protesters, at least the

00:07:57.620 ones who weren't committing felonies. But I don't think you need to hook this to what's happening right

00:08:03.260 now to say that that is very, very bad. That is bad. They should not be doing that. But as for

00:08:08.380 intelligence, FDR, when he was president, didn't see Pearl Harbor coming. We didn't see 9-11 coming.

00:08:15.860 Our CIA said that the Shah was going to last for another 20 years. We don't need to worry about it

00:08:21.480 the next day. Bam. Our CIA said that the Soviet Union would last for another 50 years. It'll just

00:08:28.020 sort of keep going, keep going. Reagan comes in. It's over. So our intelligence has never known what's

00:08:34.160 going on. The one thing we know about a CIA agent is everyone in the room knows more than he does.

00:08:39.500 And as for what they're trying to do, no, I don't think it is to try to get jihadis in. But I do

00:08:48.280 think it's more than the jihadis. It's more than terrorists, though we're seeing the results of

00:08:52.340 that right now. It is to destroy the United States of America. Trump talked a good game,

00:08:58.900 sadly didn't do it. And his line, a country without borders is not a country, is true. They want to

00:09:04.180 change the culture of this country. If you were in New York right now, I mean, you may as well be

00:09:09.280 in Caracas. There are migrants all over the place. They are taking over soccer fields. They are in

00:09:14.760 Central Park. I mean, haha, New York, sanctuary city. Now you see what it's like. Those of us who

00:09:21.380 have been living in L.A. have seen it for a long time. They want to destroy this country. It is the

00:09:26.180 same thing that's going on in Israel. It's always the barbarians against the civilized. Barbarians

00:09:32.060 against the civilized. And liberals have always taken the side of the barbarians.

00:09:36.580 Dennis Prager has this idea he mentions. I think he calls it cut flower politics. I'm totally

00:09:43.240 butchering the idea. But his idea is that you have this beautiful flower, and when you cut it from its

00:09:47.400 roots, it looks beautiful for a little while before withering and dying. That's a good line.

00:09:51.560 And so in the United States, whether anybody wants to admit it or not, the moral framework this

00:09:58.460 country rests upon is Christian. And there are a lot of people who are atheists who hold Christian

00:10:03.700 moral frameworks that don't realize it. And I'm not saying this to insult secular individuals or

00:10:08.280 atheists, but Bill Maher especially. Bill Maher will talk big game about free speech, innocent until

00:10:12.620 proven guilty, right to a speedy trial, these things literally rooted in the Bible. And I was reading

00:10:19.600 about the Constitution and where the amendments come from and where these ideas come from. And

00:10:23.420 quite literally, I think the fourth, fifth, and sixth amendments are rooted in the story of Sodom

00:10:28.180 and Gomorrah. They're actually rooted in Blackstone's formulation. And Blackstone's formulation is better

00:10:32.260 that 10 guilty persons escape than one innocent suffer, quite literally informed by the story of

00:10:36.660 Sodom and Gomorrah, Lot, etc. I think it was, was it Abraham? I'm not as well versed as Dennis

00:10:42.540 Prager is. But I bring this up because these are our moral frameworks, how we view the world and how we

00:10:48.760 protect the innocent, things like this. When you import millions of people who are not from,

00:10:55.500 don't have these moral traditions and these ideas. I'm not saying many of them are Christian, by the

00:10:59.340 way, but they don't have the same moral framework. They won't raise the same ideas. It is very similar

00:11:03.860 to what Dennis Prager says about cut flower politics or whatever the phrase he uses.

00:11:08.000 These people are coming to this country, many of whom I think are good people, right? That's what

00:11:13.000 Donald Trump said. But they don't have a historical tradition understanding our moral frameworks,

00:11:18.200 our constitution. You give that a couple generations and you are rapidly accelerating

00:11:22.640 the process by which the constitution loving Americans who believe in the, you know, classical

00:11:27.540 republicanism, which is not the Republican Party. It is the formation of this country, the various

00:11:32.000 states. They're not going to have that. And they're going to vote based on that. Their kids are.

00:11:36.480 Yeah. I mean, I think the, the immigrants are educated by the natives. When you think about

00:11:42.820 earlier generations of immigrants, they came here not speaking English, right? But their parents all said to

00:11:47.720 them, you got to learn English because you're now in America. Now, why did their parents say that?

00:11:52.060 Because they found themselves in a culture that had a set of norms, principles, a common language.

00:11:57.720 Those things were held to be important. Our immigrants now, illegals included, are being educated

00:12:04.660 by the left. And the left is telling them, in effect, you don't have to learn English. Why would you?

00:12:09.700 In fact, it is a betrayal of your identity to become American in the traditional sense. So this is a

00:12:16.880 dirty bargain between immigrants and natives. I can't put the blame entirely on one group or the

00:12:22.140 other. I mean, hey, if I was a poor Venezuelan, I tried to get the heck out of Venezuela and get my

00:12:26.580 butt up here and, you know, practice my backstroke, get over the Rio Grande. I mean, I do all those things

00:12:31.920 and I wouldn't be the bad guy. I don't think you would. I mean, I hear people say this a lot. I don't

00:12:37.660 think you would. I think you're a naturally law abiding person. I don't think I would break into

00:12:42.480 another country. I don't think you're not breaking in when you're not breaking in when the laws of

00:12:47.460 the country. It is. But the laws of the country are being ignored by the people who are in charge

00:12:51.660 of administering those laws. Biden is openly border police. Yes. But the border don't want to abide by

00:12:58.320 them. But I mean, you've seen you've seen the Defense Department operatives cutting fences for

00:13:03.860 people to climb over. And we've also seen people running into stores with with garbage bags and not

00:13:11.340 enforcing the shoplifting laws. Have you done that, Dinesh? Have you gone into a 7-Eleven with a big

00:13:15.840 garbage about because they're not enforcing the law? No, I'm sorry. You're a law abiding person.

00:13:20.400 You're giving too much credit to illegal immigrants. They are breaking. I mean, are you seriously saying that

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00:14:51.220 Country, right?

00:14:54.920 Do I follow the law? Yes.

00:14:56.760 No. Let's just say you or I are in a museum in the Louvre, right? And there's a sign in French

00:15:02.760 that says, don't enter here. These paintings are out of, are being worked on. But there's a guy

00:15:10.120 sitting there, a French guy, and you see a Frenchman walking by and he waves you in. You walk right by.

00:15:15.740 Nobody stops you. Nobody tells you to leave. You're in France. You're doing what the French

00:15:20.080 are doing. The authorities are okay with it. And so you're going to go, wait a minute. There's a

00:15:24.140 law in France. I hear they passed in Marseille that says you can't go. No, you're going to

00:15:28.200 basically...

00:15:28.920 That's a terrible metaphor.

00:15:29.780 No, it's actually a good metaphor. It's a January 6th metaphor. There were people in the capital.

00:15:34.600 They saw cops there. The cops didn't tell them to leave. There were no bullhorns saying,

00:15:38.280 get out of this building.

00:15:39.400 Open door.

00:15:39.860 January 6th, yes. Crossing through, swimming through the Rio Grande, no.

00:15:44.160 But here's another, I think, I think it's, I don't think it's one or the other. I think a lot

00:15:47.700 of people do know that they're breaking the law.

00:15:49.520 Of course they do. 100% they know.

00:15:51.580 You watch them running from border guards.

00:15:53.700 Of course.

00:15:53.960 However, however, there are a lot of interviews with some of these migrants published by,

00:15:58.880 I mean, this is, I think, detrimental to the left's argument. There was a Vox published an

00:16:03.940 interview where the guy, they asked one of these migrants in the caravan why he was coming to the

00:16:06.840 US and he said, I missed my PlayStation. One guy said, I want Buffalo Wild Wings. And it's like,

00:16:12.200 these are not refugees, dude. But they also say, the NGOs are going down and telling them,

00:16:18.900 it's legal, you're allowed, but you better hurry up because you have to do it now.

00:16:22.180 And here's a script.

00:16:23.540 Right.

00:16:23.880 Here's a script that drives them crazy. But unfortunately, there was a long article in

00:16:27.440 The New Yorker describing the scripts they have for, sometimes they'll lie about what country

00:16:32.480 they're from. They'll, well, this country, you're going to say you were raped. This country,

00:16:35.740 you're going to say you were a slave. They have scripts. Many New York Times wrote about it.

00:16:40.100 New Yorker wrote about it. And every time I bring it up, they go mental. They are handed scripts

00:16:44.180 on what to say.

00:16:45.200 Do you want to grab that bracelet right there? Do you see the bracelet?

00:16:46.880 This one?

00:16:47.360 Yep. This is, this was given to us by, I think this might have, I'm going to be so upset if I

00:16:53.320 get the wrong person, but I think it was Julio Rosas. I'm not sure. This is, do you guys speak

00:16:57.280 Spanish? I don't, I don't know.

00:16:58.560 A little bit. Let me see. I can't.

00:16:59.940 So this bracelet is what they put on people who are being trafficked. It marks delivery.

00:17:06.140 Wow.

00:17:07.000 We not, we not only have that gifted to us, but we were gifted fake IDs that they get

00:17:12.780 made.

00:17:13.280 Oh yeah. Yeah.

00:17:13.700 So when they come, they can claim to be, oh, we have a fake ID.

00:17:16.080 Here you go. Here you go. Right here. Check it out. So this was one of, one of the journals.

00:17:20.000 I got one in LA once just to see how easy it was. LA has had a problem with immigration

00:17:24.880 much longer than New York. Ha ha ha. New York. And I got to say it was a really good fake ID.

00:17:30.820 And all you do is go over to, I forget the name, MacArthur Park. Sorry. It's mentioned in a song.

00:17:36.060 Walk over to MacArthur Park. The way they used to sell drugs in, down in Union Square in New York

00:17:43.380 City, they walk around, you know, what do you need?

00:17:45.000 This is a passport Republic of Cuba, fake ID that someone used. So when they came to the U S they could

00:17:51.980 lie about where they come from. And I think the point I'm trying to make is that the lies

00:17:56.540 are being encouraged at the outset by the people who are running our government. In other words,

00:18:02.680 there is an, there's in fact an international operation. How does somebody, let's just say,

00:18:07.180 move 2000 miles and get to the U S border? Well, the answer is there's gotta be a lot of networks

00:18:13.520 along the way that are providing you with maps, with medical facilities that are giving you condoms

00:18:20.400 that are telling you if they stop you in Mexico, this is what you say. And so there is a sort of

00:18:26.120 international convoy operation, particularly bringing the immigrants from deep in South America.

00:18:32.120 But then you got guys coming from China, you got people coming from Iran and it's a wink,

00:18:37.480 wink operation. You don't even need in today's technology. You can't get away. If they really

00:18:41.640 wanted to stop you, they'd stop you. Yep. They don't want to stop you. And that's the point. So

00:18:45.500 you're like, I produced my fake ID. They pretend it's a real ID. I claim to be a refugee. They

00:18:50.720 know I'm not a refugee, but they give me a court date two years from now. They know I'm going to

00:18:54.840 disappear in the country. I'm expected to disappear. So what I'm getting at is there's a reciprocity

00:19:00.280 going on here between an administration that wants to flout the law for its own reason.

00:19:05.220 And then the illegals that have their own motives. So they better not use those condoms or they won't

00:19:09.820 be able to have an anchor baby. That is the true goal. No, but here's the more terrifying reality

00:19:15.640 is that all the reporters that we've talked to who've covered this said it's mostly young

00:19:20.740 women being raped by the human traffickers. It's not. No, it's not condoms. It's they

00:19:24.900 they don't care about any of that. Well, that's back to your point on the Christian

00:19:29.460 underlying of our freedom. And we are the freest country in the world. I mean, anyone who comes

00:19:35.640 from any other country, any any immigrant to Finland makes it less white. It's a very,

00:19:40.260 very white country. Any immigrant to America makes it less free. We are shockingly the freest

00:19:45.500 country in the world in so many ways that other cultures do not understand. And one of the things

00:19:51.520 that our media is, as Dinesh says, there is there is an operation going. It's it's I've never seen so

00:19:57.460 much collective lying. But the rape cultures around the country are going to be quite a surprise

00:20:06.680 for the feminists. Let me just tell you, ladies, you never had it so good. Let's with American

00:20:13.360 forget that we stopped talking about one of our most famous rape cases that came out this year,

00:20:17.700 which was that 10 year old girl from Ohio who was taken across the border to get an abortion.

00:20:21.400 And as it turns out, she is the daughter, I think, of an illegal immigrant, the man who raped her,

00:20:26.860 who's 27, was an illegal immigrant and lived with her mother. And then we just stopped talking about

00:20:31.920 this case. At first, it was this is why we need Roe. This is why this is so important. As soon as it

00:20:36.400 gets tied to illegal immigration, they're like, we can't talk about it anymore. We don't want to

00:20:39.740 address the effect that immigration has on culture, especially if those people who are coming across

00:20:44.200 the border who are not law abiding people continue to not abide by any laws when they get here.

00:20:48.740 So I have I have a bunch of friends who live in L.A., lefty types, but I guess you would call them

00:20:55.580 default liberal. Some of them are more politically active just because they work in media. And I

00:21:00.180 remember having conversations with six, seven years ago about the far left, the far left's hatred of

00:21:05.460 Jews and Israel and how I don't understand how like, you know, hey, look, you're you work in

00:21:11.820 Hollywood. You're you're Jewish. You understand what's going on, but you're supporting these far

00:21:16.880 leftists who are on video saying they want to eradicate. I'm not Israel. I'm not I'm not I'm

00:21:20.840 not. Well, maybe a little strong language, but you had that video of Patrice Cullors of BLM saying

00:21:24.660 they want to end the the imperial project called Israel. Like, what do you think that means when

00:21:29.520 they say from the river to the sea? And these people are like, oh, no, I don't believe any of

00:21:33.580 that. Well, it's a cold splash of water in the face right now. Yes. When you're seeing in in

00:21:38.500 Washington, they're chanting. There is only one solution. Intifada revolution. I want to make sure I get

00:21:43.860 the full quote, but they'll try and downplay and say, no, no, Intifada just means we're going to

00:21:48.420 come and revolt against the government. But everybody knows what one solution means. And

00:21:53.100 when they chant from the river to the sea, then when you watch what Hamas does. So I bring this

00:21:58.340 up just to kind of bring it back to the greater what's happening here around the world. But you

00:22:02.100 made a point about it's going to be a wake up call to a lot of these feminists. And I'm wondering

00:22:06.480 what my lefty friends who are who many of them were Jewish working in the entertainment industry,

00:22:11.020 what what it must have been like. And I feel bad for them. I'm trying to drag them to wake up and

00:22:15.640 to see everything they put their weight behind every every BLM post to see Black Lives Matter

00:22:21.240 post a picture of a paraglider saying they support this. Yep. When they went and killed civilians,

00:22:27.120 children indiscriminately. And we're told by a more pro-Palestinian individuals. We had Max

00:22:33.500 Blumenthal on the show. Tremendous respect for him. But he said Hamas saw the music festival as a

00:22:37.280 target of opportunity. And it is their intention to target civilians to use as bargaining chips

00:22:41.900 against Israel. This is war. There are no rules and morality in war. People we grew up in the United

00:22:47.340 States because we are so protected and so pampered. This breeds I'm going to become totally blunt and

00:22:52.480 very direct. I'm not saying it only breeds this, but feminism, I believe, can only exist in what the

00:22:58.640 United States has created. It is so safe. It is so protected. Women go about your business. You are free.

00:23:04.100 Whereas in the majority of the world, you see these stories of the women who go hiking in Morocco by

00:23:09.080 themselves and what happens. What we see now with Hamas is a wake up call to many of these lefty

00:23:13.680 feminist types who supported BLM to realize these people hate you. They want to kill you. And if it

00:23:17.440 was not for our security apparatus, yeah, you'd be living in a very brutal, cold reality.

00:23:22.340 I mean, this whole doctrine of multiculturalism, anti-colonialism, it was cooked up inside the West

00:23:28.780 and it was cooked up in a Western environment. And when you step outside that environment and you

00:23:34.780 apply it, you suddenly realize it means something totally different than what these sort of campus

00:23:39.620 activist types think. So when you think, for example, about Hamas and this just the recent massacre,

00:23:46.360 in some sense, it is even worse than the Nazis. And what I mean is not in scale, of course, but what I mean

00:23:52.080 is the Nazis were sufficiently Western to realize that they had to hide their crimes, right? The

00:23:58.640 death camps, there's not a single death camp that was in Germany. Think of it. They were all in the

00:24:02.880 occupied territories. They were in Poland because the Nazis realized we can't tell the German people

00:24:07.620 were doing this. We got to hide it. Hamas doesn't hide it. If they kill a kid, they're laughing while

00:24:13.400 they're doing it. And then they put the video themselves. They're not waiting for some journalists

00:24:17.260 to expose them, but they're exposing themselves. I think that shows how the Nazis were.

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00:25:50.560 A more terrifying evil because by hiding it, they seek to get away with it.

00:25:55.420 But what's great to get back to what liberals must be waking up to right now. I mean, I hope this will

00:26:00.820 last and I hope they have noticed. It was the left that encouraged BLM, that encouraged these riots and

00:26:08.500 and the attacks on the police and all cops are bastards and burning down police stations.

00:26:13.900 They will always take the side of the barbarians. They're always on the side of the violent. And

00:26:20.240 for the first time now, you know, hallelujah, in Israel, we see, oh my gosh, you're going to take

00:26:27.100 the side of the civilized people this time. Your first, first time. I mean, of course, BLM supports

00:26:33.560 Hamas. What did you think? And can we get a list of the corporations and the celebrities that donated

00:26:41.780 to Black Lives Matter now all out supporting Hamas? I just hope that the pushback that happened so fast,

00:26:48.920 so quickly, I hope it didn't happen so quickly that they suddenly realized, oh crap, we stepped in it

00:26:54.920 and pull back. No, tell us what you really think. Also, the DI, I'm sorry, just one more thing,

00:26:59.520 but also the diversity and diversities are saying, and sorry, you guys, but white men are really S.O.L.

00:27:08.140 I'm actually a mixed race, so I'm okay.

00:27:09.880 No, that is not going to count.

00:27:11.980 It's actually worse.

00:27:14.140 All the police chiefs, all the head of universities, all the heads of symphonies. I mean, read Heather

00:27:20.200 McDonald's book. I'm constantly interviewing her on my sub stack. She has this book, When Race Trumps

00:27:24.500 Merit, and it's unbelievable how every position, important position in this country has been

00:27:29.620 replaced by usually a Black woman, especially at the universities. And now we have at Yale,

00:27:36.080 no, I'm sorry, it's Harvard. The president of the Kennedy School at Harvard is giving all these

00:27:41.080 pro-Hamas statements and all the big, very wealthy, very smart, well, not that smart because they were

00:27:47.080 donating until now, Jewish donors saying, that's it, no more, we're cutting off donations. Something

00:27:52.240 else Heather McDonald has been saying to rich donors, stop giving to these universities. They

00:27:57.080 hate you.

00:27:57.960 I'm actually deeply offended by the notion that we have been screaming for years. BLM is deeply

00:28:04.520 anti-Semitic, and I'm not saying that in any cute kind of way.

00:28:07.360 How about just anti-white, anti-American?

00:28:09.840 Well, for sure. But to these people who-

00:28:12.560 It's more important to me.

00:28:13.900 To many of these wealthy individuals who are donating to these universities,

00:28:16.840 you realize you're supporting the, like, very evil individuals. When they say decolonize,

00:28:23.060 what do you think that means? And they've been holding up those signs for a decade,

00:28:26.240 and these donors to these universities are just like, I wonder what that's all about.

00:28:29.460 Bro, they're talking about killing the people who are here.

00:28:32.080 Yes.

00:28:32.520 And it's fascinating when a Yale professor put out a statement just a couple days ago saying,

00:28:37.780 settlers are not civilians. That statement is to justify the targeting of innocent children,

00:28:43.400 women, and men who are massacred in their homes without warning, because to them,

00:28:49.780 and they're chanting in the streets-

00:28:50.940 They're combatants.

00:28:51.500 Exactly.

00:28:52.240 The settlers is not civilians is a variation of systemic racism, because systemic racism is a way

00:29:01.680 of saying, I don't have to find a racist. I don't have to find a white guy and a black guy who

00:29:05.940 applied for a job. The black guy was better qualified. The white guy got the job. Hey,

00:29:09.640 we found a racist, someone who did that. No. Systemic racism locates the problem in a system.

00:29:15.980 And similarly here, the settler, the settlements become the equivalent of the system. And so

00:29:22.980 everybody in those settlements, who could be innocent themselves, they could even be kids,

00:29:27.020 nevertheless become occupiers.

00:29:29.240 Yeah. I remember I was at a protest for Native American issues, and they were saying,

00:29:34.220 our land was stolen. It's a sacred burial ground. And when I asked the activists, I was like,

00:29:37.740 what part of it is the sacred burial ground? And they're like, oh, all that. And I'm like,

00:29:41.520 and just that, like, well, all that too. And basically-

00:29:44.080 Just a vague hand gesture everywhere.

00:29:45.980 But it's sort of where my hand is pointing.

00:29:48.500 To be fair, these are just leftist activists saying this.

00:29:52.380 Right.

00:29:52.940 And so I'm not speaking on behalf of Native Americans who are concerned about what land

00:29:56.060 they may have had burial cemeteries or whatever on, but the activists' view was all of it.

00:30:00.740 Just everything you can see belongs to them and should be reverted. And it's like, well,

00:30:04.860 hold on. That's not reality. Okay? People live here. We're not going to, you know,

00:30:09.100 we're not going to go to some dude's house in Pittsburgh and be like, well, I'm sorry, man.

00:30:12.640 You know, 200 years ago, this land belonged to somebody else. So it's gone now. That's insane.

00:30:17.020 Not only that, but I mean, think about it this way. The whole claim is just based upon

00:30:21.180 what you got there first. I mean, does the first Bedouin who arrives at an oasis own the oasis?

00:30:27.340 Also, they weren't there first. There was another Indian tribe.

00:30:30.320 Well, that's right. They slaughtered. And before that, there was another Indian tribe

00:30:33.240 that they slaughtered. They were just migrants slaughtering one another until the white man

00:30:37.000 came with his guns and won a war. And that's how territory is taken. How do you think Israel

00:30:43.540 was created?

00:30:44.680 Not just that. When the Native Americans were warring with each other to take land, white

00:30:48.880 men showed up and warred with each other over that land. And you had colonial inter-European

00:30:54.320 conflict in the new world. It's just the world is...

00:30:58.660 The only white or Western, whatever you want to say, European, I mean, I generally like white

00:31:07.240 people. But one thing I really hate about them is this weird suicidal gene they have. There's no

00:31:14.320 other ethnic group. There are no other countries that say, we suck. We suck here. You can have our

00:31:20.260 country. No, every other ethnic group. We're the best. Hispanics are the best. It's not even

00:31:25.140 Hispanics. It's Mexicans, Ecuadorans. We crush. We kill. No, only white people. We suck.

00:31:30.920 Well, here's the dangerous thing about the left's ideology. It is only applied to the United States

00:31:38.100 because when you bring the same concepts to Europe, things get really weird because they

00:31:43.400 talk about indigenous rights. So what do you end up with? You end up with white identitarian

00:31:47.160 groups in Europe saying indigenous rights. We completely agree.

00:31:50.040 They're like, thank you so much for this.

00:31:51.300 Yeah. They hold signs saying indigenous people's rights. And they make the same arguments the left

00:31:57.180 makes here as to why they oppose immigration in Europe. And it's like, well, okay. I mean,

00:32:01.540 that's the left's argument, right?

00:32:02.520 I'd rather take Israel as our lodestar if we could do one-tenth of what they do.

00:32:07.860 Oh, did you see my proposed solution for what's happening in the Middle East? I think it's really

00:32:11.500 perfect. We take all their Palestinians. They take all our illegals. They get drywalling.

00:32:18.980 You don't have a problem.

00:32:19.840 Well, you know, it's interesting how they keep describing Israel as this kind of occupying power

00:32:25.160 without asking, well, wait a minute. How did this region start out? Well, first of all,

00:32:30.360 the Jews were there first. It was their land. Then they go into the diaspora, the Romans smash them,

00:32:35.660 and they take off. Then you get a bunch of Muslim farmers and sheep herders over there.

00:32:41.840 But Islam comes around in the seventh century and conquers that whole region, which was,

00:32:46.760 by the way, almost all Christian. Jordan was Christian. Syria was Christian. So these are

00:32:51.340 Christian lands forcibly conquered by Islam. And yet somehow Islam gets out of this sort of

00:32:57.460 reputation of being an occupier, and they're somehow able to pin that on the Jews. I mean,

00:33:02.400 it's just a kind of an amazing sleight of hand.

00:33:05.960 I mean, yeah, I do not know a whole lot about the history. I do know that when I grew up,

00:33:11.440 going to Catholic school, many of these cities were Jewish cities, like where, you know,

00:33:15.780 Jerusalem, et cetera. And just based on that concept alone, should we go back and say,

00:33:21.660 oh, no, it's not free Palestine, it's free Israel, right? Or Judea, whatever it was.

00:33:26.820 I mean, when I was in Israel, this was last December. It's really fascinating because

00:33:30.880 they're doing all this archaeological work, and they're finding out that many of these

00:33:35.900 artifacts are coming up now that are validating the Hebrew scriptures. I mean, people for a long

00:33:42.180 time think about it. There was no independent evidence that Jeremiah or, you know, these prophets

00:33:46.400 of the old, David or Saul ever existed. But suddenly you pull out a, you know, a medallion,

00:33:51.740 or you pull out a writing, and it's like King Saul, King Solomon. You suddenly realize, wow,

00:33:56.900 this, there's the historicity of the Old Testament is being affirmed by secular modern Israeli

00:34:02.980 archaeologists. Now, what does it have to do with what we're talking about? Well, it's establishing

00:34:07.220 the historic claim of the Jews to Israel. Well, actually, I went to a coin store, and they had

00:34:13.160 one of the old coins that was minted around the time of the birth of Christ, and is believed. I

00:34:20.360 don't know if the coin that I bought was one of the coins used by St. Casper, but it was the same

00:34:26.440 currency used by St. Casper. And that's, I don't, but my understanding is after researching about it,

00:34:31.220 buying the coin, it's, it's verified, historical, in like a box, and sealed, and graded, and all

00:34:35.660 that stuff, that quite literally, yes, there was a guy, he was given currency, it was, he was, it was

00:34:40.740 minted for him, so they could fund his trip. Don't know if that specific coin was used by him, but

00:34:44.700 around this time, I gifted that to Seamus, because I thought it was, you know, it meant something

00:34:48.640 historically, but yeah, generally, this stuff happened, right? Whether or not you believe in the,

00:34:54.280 the greater faith-based narratives of the, of the religions, or whatever, is, is something else,

00:34:58.680 but these people were here, they did these things. Exactly. I mean, that's the point.

00:35:02.520 And they control it, and they're the civilized force there now. Yeah. But the left is always

00:35:07.080 against civilization. And the left is inconsistent. I mean, there is a lot of brutality in that region

00:35:12.440 that the left doesn't care about, right? Like, Coptic Christians are murdered in Egypt regularly.

00:35:17.120 Their, their churches are bombed, their priests are murdered, and we never hear the left saying,

00:35:20.960 this is terrible, we should go in for this underdog, right? They just pretend it doesn't happen.

00:35:24.740 And I wonder if that's because they're ignorant on the complexity of, of the region, or if it's

00:35:30.380 because they just- It can't be. I mean, Anne is right about this, because think about it. You've

00:35:33.520 got, you've got blacks who are gunned down by other blacks in Chicago every day. Clearly,

00:35:37.860 people are not ignorant about that. But at the same time, they act like that's not happening either.

00:35:42.620 But then how do they, how do they justify, I mean, I don't think they do, but is there a way for

00:35:47.280 them to justify to these donors at Harvard why they pick some sides and not others? Because they're

00:35:52.220 completely, they're completely inconsistent in how they enforce it. Well, usually the big donors

00:35:57.100 wouldn't care. They're going to take the side of the violent ones, of the primitive ones. I mean,

00:36:01.500 they, it's kind of why they don't have cognitive dissonance. They are, the, the donors are the top of

00:36:07.100 the heap of the civilization, the civilized world. But, um, you know, it's just cute. It's fun. They

00:36:14.340 don't, BLM, oh, I'll write a check. Now, now that it comes to something, you know, close to home.

00:36:19.760 Um, and this was just a hideous, hideous attack on Israel. I mean, I don't think it matters whether

00:36:25.940 it was, how, how far it goes back. You don't slaughter civilians like this. And they, and

00:36:31.100 they lie about everything here. I'll tell you my challenge. They do lie. The left lies about

00:36:34.620 everything endlessly. It is, it is mind numbing every day. I have to track the stuff. And, you know,

00:36:39.640 as, as someone who's somewhat, you know, years ago, I come into, Hey, the story's happening. It was 2014

00:36:45.580 protective edge. I knew very little about Israel, Palestine, and I'm trying to understand what's

00:36:49.460 going on. And I get these left to saying, look, Israel indiscriminately bombs, they kill civilians

00:36:54.500 and these poor Palestinians are in an open air prison. And I'm like, interesting. And then I,

00:36:58.360 I'm, I'm, uh, I knew a journalist who was fair and balanced. And he's like, I've been to Israel.

00:37:04.780 Here's what I saw. It was horrifying. The rockets were exploding. I went to Palestine. It was

00:37:07.500 whoring, horrifying. Here's what I saw. And I'm like, that's interesting. I was like, maybe this

00:37:10.820 truth is closer to the middle. And then what happens? Half the stories I heard about Palestine

00:37:15.540 were all lies. They they're, they're lying about what Israel actually did. And then it's like,

00:37:19.840 okay, is Israel innocent? Well, it's war. So there's going to be collateral damage and problems,

00:37:23.680 but every single time it comes to these arguments, the left lies to me. I have no choice, but to be

00:37:28.780 like, I must give Israel the benefit of the doubt because you keep lying about everything. And Israel

00:37:34.240 may be lying too, but it seems like they're lying less than you're lying. So I don't know what I'm

00:37:37.680 supposed to do other than say when Hamas goes and kills a bunch of women and children. And I'm told by

00:37:42.420 the pro-Palestinian side that, well, yes, that's, that's a target of opportunity. They're doing that

00:37:46.900 to gain leverage and capture people and drag them back to Gaza's bargaining chips. I'm like,

00:37:51.280 so you admit your tactic is to indiscriminately target civilians? Well, Israel's saying they're

00:37:55.860 trying not to target civilians and it's unfortunate that it happens. I'm sorry. Like it sounds like you

00:38:01.160 guys are evil, right? Sure. I mean, there's, there's that video on social media of the Palestinian

00:38:07.180 parent who's telling his kid to go throw the rock. And you can tell the soldiers are really

00:38:12.840 uncomfortable because the, the, the, the parent is, is egging his kid on and he's telling the

00:38:17.740 Israeli guy, shoot the kid, shoot the kid. It's almost like he's looking for a propaganda with

00:38:22.260 his own kid. I mean, it's almost inconceivable. A point about these donors though, because it doesn't

00:38:28.380 make sense that you've got all these rich guys who are doing super well. There are multimillionaires,

00:38:33.840 why they would fund quote barbarism. I mean, that doesn't make any sense. Why are they continuing

00:38:38.700 to give to these universities? And I think it is because the left has, has sort of captured

00:38:45.480 the trophies of high culture, the, the Lincoln center. And so in a, in a capitalist society,

00:38:51.420 you've got people who do really well. They make a lot of money, but they always have this little

00:38:55.280 anxiety that they don't have culture. And so they want to buy culture. And the way you buy culture

00:39:00.700 is you give money to Harvard and then you get on the board or you get on the board of the Lincoln

00:39:04.740 center and you don't really care what they stand for, what they do. You walk into the museum,

00:39:09.540 you can't understand any of the art, but the point is you don't want to be seen as a guy who's a

00:39:13.480 barbarian and a Philistine and you don't know what art is. So you're like, I need to be on the board of

00:39:17.480 the Lincoln center. And then I will be seen as not only a rich guy, but a very cultured guy.

00:39:22.440 So something to that, but they also, most of them did go to the temples of high culture,

00:39:27.000 like Harvard and Yale. Um, and I don't know, I see too many black lives matter signs. And what's

00:39:34.440 that one in this house? We hung up, you know, in the Hamptons and in place like Palm beach,

00:39:41.820 huge, you know, black lives matter. That, that isn't, that is, that is them take.

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00:41:13.720 Yeah, it's chic. It's definitely chic, but it's always on the side of the barbarians and the

00:41:23.460 violent. That's how they show how cool they are and how rich they are, because they don't need to

00:41:28.620 worry about what you were saying about civilized society. They don't need the police. They don't

00:41:32.520 need, they live a safe life. So they have the luxury of pretending to support. Of promoting

00:41:38.760 violence in someone else's life. Castro, Black Lives Matter. They're unlearned, unworldly, naive,

00:41:45.820 unsophisticated individuals who blindly march along with whatever they think the narrative is so they

00:41:51.920 can fit in. Many of these people know what they're doing is wrong, but are scared to speak out against

00:41:55.960 it. Those are cowards and they provide donations to this. But I think the simple thing is, you know,

00:42:00.980 you made the joke about, you know, Palestine will take all the Palestinians. They can have the

00:42:04.680 illegal immigrants. A joke we have to make is we'll take the Venezuelans if they take our leftists.

00:42:09.780 Because the people in Venezuela fleeing leftism at the very least will. But it's a joke, right?

00:42:16.520 And so the issue is. They voted for it. These leftists. Not like it was imposed on them in

00:42:21.220 Venezuela. And now they're running for it. They voted for it. But the leftists in the United States

00:42:24.600 have never been to Venezuela. And the funny thing, you take an American leftist and bring them to

00:42:29.060 Caracas, they'll likely be murdered. When I went down to. Certainly now, yeah. I went down to

00:42:34.060 Oh, yeah. I went down to Venezuela, I think, nine years ago with Vice. And we were covering the

00:42:41.300 uprising that was happening. It was interesting. It was the wealthier individuals protesting against

00:42:44.300 the government because their lives are being destroyed by these policies. And four or five

00:42:48.780 times someone walked up to me and go, where are you from? And I know what happens if I say America.

00:42:53.740 So I would say Vice magazine and they would say, no, where are you from? I'm like, oh, Vice is a

00:42:57.760 Canadian magazine. And they'd walk away. If I said I'm an American, I'm going to get that something

00:43:02.580 bad is going to happen. So that's nice. So I'm glad they're all here now. But that makes me feel

00:43:07.700 much better. No, but if you were there, then, you know, and this is why I mean, sometimes I think it

00:43:12.580 can be flip and unfair. A lot of New Yorkers didn't vote for the government. A lot of Los Angelenos didn't

00:43:17.660 vote for the government. So, yeah, I have sympathy for them. I'm one of them. But you know that in this

00:43:23.360 case, what I'm saying about how they voted for it, they have masses of poor people. And Hugo Chavez

00:43:30.660 said, I'm going to take the property of the rich and I'm going to give it to you guys. And they're

00:43:36.180 all out there with their red hats. And they were moving poor people onto the golf courses and taking

00:43:42.240 over golf. And the poor, yay, yay. And they love this. It's like Eva Perón. This is not true. None

00:43:48.320 of this is true. I'm actually married to Venezuela. I know this history very well. Hugo Chavez came in in

00:43:53.360 the 1990s and he said the exact opposite. He ran as a third party candidate, as a kind of Ross Perot.

00:43:58.860 And he said, I am not a socialist. I am pro-business. He goes, both parties are corrupt, which was true.

00:44:05.100 And he said, I will steer a middle course. And a lot of Venezuelans, by the way, Venezuela was not a

00:44:10.400 desperately poor country. This was not India. They were wealthy, right? Venezuela was in some ways

00:44:15.120 wealthier than the United States with oil wealth. Yeah. Debbie, my wife, when she grew up, she says when she

00:44:20.500 came from Venezuela, Caracas, to the Rio Grande Valley of Texas, she thought she was moving to a third

00:44:25.720 world country. Wow. Because she walked in and there was like, she's like, what kind of, you know, what kind of

00:44:30.880 houses are here? It's all so ramshackled and run down and people are like rednecks, you know. And anyway, the

00:44:36.780 point is, Hugo Chavez pulled a fast one. And now the moment he got in, he allied with Castro. Now he always had

00:44:43.820 those roots, but he didn't campaign on that. And while they had a free election in Venezuela in the 1990s, they have

00:44:49.920 not had a free election since. I mean, they have been rigging the elections openly.

00:44:54.240 Well, it may have been rigged, but when he ran for re-election, he absolutely ran on taking from the rich

00:44:59.120 and giving to the poor. And did your wife ever look around in Caracas because the poor people way

00:45:05.400 outnumber the rich? And that, by the way, I think it's an important point that you make it so it's not

00:45:10.180 a good way. It's not the American way. What set America apart from most other countries, and especially

00:45:16.860 Latin America for its entire existence, was this vast, vast, vast middle class. Everybody

00:45:21.280 had a pretty high standard of living. And by bringing in the third world, we're going to end

00:45:26.600 up like that with your rich wife and probably everyone in this room in this tiny little strata

00:45:32.780 and then masses and masses of peasants.

00:45:37.920 Well, I mean, Venezuela was a country that it does have more poor people than rich people,

00:45:43.180 for sure. And so Hugo Chavez was able to exploit that division.

00:45:48.600 Well, I think that's true everywhere.

00:45:49.600 That's true everywhere.

00:45:50.720 It wasn't in this country. No, it was a vast middle class. And we're losing that now. And

00:45:56.300 that is going to help a party that will do things like your police state stuff.

00:46:01.520 Yeah. No, I mean, I agree with that for sure in this country. But look, there are middle classes

00:46:07.400 emerging in other countries. And middle classes by themselves don't protect countries. I mean,

00:46:11.960 India now has a big middle class. It didn't when I was a kid. India was a small sliver of rich people

00:46:16.560 and then a giant group of poor people. But now there are quite 200 or 300 million middle class

00:46:22.440 people in India. How are they able to facilitate that? I mean, what are they doing that Venezuela

00:46:26.060 is not? India has benefited, as China has, from this massive globalization where, by and large,

00:46:32.840 the labor pool and the sort of educated pool were deployed to provide both menial work,

00:46:38.980 but also intelligent work for lower cost. And so for the last 30 years, people are talking about

00:46:44.840 the India price and the China price. In other words, you can make steel over here, or you can

00:46:48.940 make it in China for half of that. And the same has been true of India. India has been providing,

00:46:53.920 as you know, you call the airlines, you get some Indian guy. But why? It's because that guy's

00:46:58.380 charging one third in India to what it would cost to hire a guy here. So globalization in that sense

00:47:05.340 has been very good for India. It's a labor market drug addiction. It's destroying us.

00:47:10.000 It is. And everyone complains about it. Everyone complains about we can't get customer service

00:47:14.360 anymore. We can't solve our problems. You finally get someone on the phone and they don't understand

00:47:18.800 what you're talking about and they can't help you because they're thousands of miles away.

00:47:21.880 And I dealt with this recently when United Airlines in the middle of the night changed my flight to a

00:47:27.100 different flight, bumping me from first to coach in the back without telling me.

00:47:31.780 Whoa, it sounds like Delta. Look, I'm flying back after a medical trip. I have to work first

00:47:41.400 thing in the morning. There's a reason I fly first class. I have to sleep. Otherwise,

00:47:44.740 I'm not getting work done. And without telling me, they switched my flight. It's a first world

00:47:48.220 problem. Totally fine. Totally get it. Look at me complaining about my first class ticket.

00:47:52.120 But I called to get some assistance. Not a single person could help me. There's no employees.

00:47:55.920 Did you ever get an explanation? Nope.

00:47:57.600 Well, they said that one of the connecting flights was delayed, but there was no reason for them to

00:48:05.320 switch my flight. So I was originally flying from Vegas to, I think, like Houston to DC. And there

00:48:12.180 were options in Houston. I think it was, was it Houston? I don't know. Or was it Dallas? Whatever

00:48:17.380 one's the really big hub. Dallas. And yeah, was it Dallas? There's a bunch of options I could have

00:48:21.540 taken. They instead diverted me to Denver without telling me. And so that's just an annoyance.

00:48:25.740 Don't you think a lot of this, I mean, it is a huge, huge problem. I think we've all

00:48:29.640 experienced the lack of employees. Isn't this still an after effect from COVID and paying people

00:48:36.280 to stay home and do nothing? That was a pretty devastating year. And it seems to me that is

00:48:42.520 when it started. I agree. But I mean, the trope of someone calling customer service and getting

00:48:47.560 someone in India, Turkey, or China, or something like this has been around for a really long time.

00:48:51.240 I mean, and not just customer service. I mean, you walk into, you walk into a store or a restaurant,

00:48:58.700 you don't get the idea that anybody wants to help you. You're looking for shoes. It's kind of like

00:49:05.060 you're on your own. You find your shoes and then you have to chase down somebody.

00:49:08.620 The employees are avoiding eye contact with you.

00:49:10.460 Exactly.

00:49:11.400 Well, if you see an employee, I'd mostly just see not as many employees as they need. I mean,

00:49:17.540 it shows you how the shutdowns, which totally didn't need to happen. Also, I don't know if

00:49:22.980 you saw this is in yesterday's New York Times, ACT, that's another, there's SAT and ACT.

00:49:27.700 ACT scores are down.

00:49:29.280 But shockingly, like never before. I mean, sometimes they go up, they go down. We're always supposed to

00:49:35.380 be horrified by this.

00:49:35.980 There's a huge plummet in the last five years and they're the lowest since 1991.

00:49:38.560 It was 43% could not pass. I didn't take ACT. I'm SAT side of the country. But there are five

00:49:45.900 different sections of it, like history, math, English, that sort of thing. 43% couldn't even

00:49:52.940 get to qualified on those five. And they're saying it's COVID. I think you got to throw in

00:50:00.080 immigration.

00:50:00.580 Well, it's not just it's COVID and it's immigration, but I think it's also just the

00:50:05.560 universities have relinked high school kids. But I mean, merit is no longer a central defining

00:50:13.840 concept of America. When I came to America, I thought of myself as listen, the beauty of America

00:50:19.100 is you can start out at the bottom of the ladder. And of course, I'd come with like 500 bucks in my

00:50:22.760 pocket. I'm like, you know, but if you're smart, you're hardworking, you're creative, you come up

00:50:27.540 with new ideas. Merit is going to be the transmission belt that's going to move you ahead.

00:50:33.180 Who can say that with a straight face today?

00:50:35.240 Right.

00:50:35.360 No, in fact, I think they prefer people who are not talented. I think all of the schools

00:50:39.400 and public schools cater to the lowest common denominator in class. I mean, you see schools

00:50:44.020 cutting gifted and talented programs across the board. There is a reason that students who are

00:50:48.320 qualified for college do not want to go. It's not a system of promise. It's just credentialism that

00:50:53.080 actually doesn't cater to helping them achieve anything.

00:50:55.960 Yes, we ought to be finding the Elon Musks and Peter Thiel's and putting all of our money into

00:51:01.760 them. But instead, we have endless programs for kids and put the square block in the red coal.

00:51:09.560 Well, we don't offer them any alternatives, right? Like if you are not someone who wants to go to

00:51:13.500 college, that's sort of it. Your school is then saying, well, you're hurting our numbers because

00:51:18.200 it looks better for us to the government if we enroll you in college.

00:51:20.640 You should not go to college. You can make so much more money not going to college.

00:51:25.320 College, everybody knows it's a four-year vacation. You learn nothing. The only reason

00:51:29.080 And you go into massive amounts of debt.

00:51:29.880 They can charge 200. Well, the only reason people do that is the Supreme Court ruled

00:51:34.240 IQ tests unconstitutional. You could give any employee a five-minute IQ test and that will

00:51:40.180 teach you everything you need to know for any job, whether it's busboy. You always want the

00:51:43.740 smarter person for the job. But you can't do that. The SAT and ACT are basically IQ tests. So

00:51:52.140 what you are doing is paying $200,000 to get around the Supreme Court's rule that the employer can't

00:51:59.140 give you an IQ test. So just take the SAT and submit that to your employer.

00:52:02.600 So a buddy of mine was running a midsize marketing firm. He had a couple dozen clients. And as he was

00:52:10.620 expanding, he needed to hire people to manage the social media platforms of these various

00:52:13.800 restaurants and businesses. So, of course, he goes on various job posting boards and says,

00:52:18.320 here's what we're looking for, blah, blah, blah. College degree required. He ended up firing,

00:52:22.820 you know, several people every week. Problems, phone call. What do I do? They're panicking. This

00:52:28.660 image was offending someone. What do I do? And he's just like, figure it out. You're a social media

00:52:33.380 manager. This is your job. This is why we looked for people with expertise. That's fired, fired,

00:52:37.040 fired, fired. Finally, he's running out of money because he's gone through so many

00:52:40.200 employees. So he posts on Craigslist and he gets a couple of applications from some people. I think

00:52:45.500 they were just high school grads. They may have dropped out. And they said they'd moved to

00:52:48.360 California to pursue acting. And he said, well, they're willing to get paid substantially less.

00:52:53.040 And so at this point, with how much money I've got left, wasting money on these people,

00:52:57.080 I'm going to hire him. So then he tells me that the first week they're there, he gets not a single

00:53:01.180 text or phone call. He gets worried. He's like, what's going on? He comes into the office at the end of

00:53:05.860 the day, how things are going, like everything's good, boss. And he's like, no problems. Oh,

00:53:10.080 there was a problem with one of the companies. They were upset about one of the photos. He took

00:53:12.660 care of it. And he was like, you took care of it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We just set him up. We asked

00:53:15.660 him what the issue was. We gave him some solutions and then we implemented it. There was nothing to

00:53:18.740 worry about. And he said to me, here's the thing. These kids who spent their whole lives going to

00:53:23.960 going to school and being told what to do couldn't solve problems because whenever they had a problem,

00:53:28.280 they were told what to do. And being patted on the head for whatever they did.

00:53:32.240 Participation awards. But these two people that were, had moved to California to pursue acting

00:53:37.460 were individuals who decided what was right for themselves and were going to pursue their own

00:53:43.360 vision. And it's like, I think that transit's in the workplace. These are people who are like,

00:53:46.640 I'll figure it out. Whereas the college kids were like, please tell me what to do. And so there you

00:53:51.040 go. Yeah. I mean, the problem isn't just that the college kids are not street smart and don't have

00:53:55.020 real world experience. It is also that there's just been a rapid decline of just the baseline level

00:54:02.320 of knowledge. I mean, what a teacher could walk into and expect kids to already know. Like, okay,

00:54:07.700 we're going to talk about the Federalist Papers. You know, they're written by this guy Publius. And

00:54:11.960 then right now you can't, people are like, what? Publius, what? You know, and then you've got to

00:54:16.220 explain, well, there were these three guys and they came together and they decided to write.

00:54:20.260 So what I'm getting at is that college has become remedial. College is basically like the ninth

00:54:25.900 grade. Here's the issue. When, when I was a kid growing up, my family opened a coffee shop. So

00:54:33.540 I'm between nine and 11 years old. I am surrounded by no one but adults on the weekends when I would

00:54:39.020 work with them. So I'd be working the right start, be making coffee. I'm like 10. Some customers would

00:54:42.780 complain, why is there a 10 year old? But what do I hear? I hear a 24 year old guy being like, I can't

00:54:48.900 stand these Republicans right now. We got in there and they're saying stuff. And that's what I'm hearing as

00:54:52.900 a kid. So what's happening is as a child, I'm learning from adults. I'm learning how to be an

00:54:57.860 adult from adults. What we've started doing with schools is we're having children learn how to be

00:55:01.700 adults from other children. What's happening now. And one of the reasons I think scores are going

00:55:06.080 down is not just the COVID lockdowns. It's that, why is it that kids don't know about the Federalist

00:55:10.880 Papers? When I was a little kid, I'd go, I'd be, my parents would bring me to a movie or watch a TV

00:55:15.260 show. I'm sitting on the couch with my dad, Star Trek, the next generation is on. The ideas that are

00:55:19.120 being conveyed to me are, are adult concepts. Now kids are on social media where they're all

00:55:25.160 their culture is from other children who don't know anything either. So what's relevant to them

00:55:29.840 is, Oh, that dude threw a pie at that other guy. Whereas when I was growing up, it was, I went and

00:55:35.060 saw that movie with Mel Gibson, you know, and he was fighting the American revolution.

00:55:39.200 I think the games, I'm not an 11 year old boy, but all of the games they play,

00:55:48.580 it seems to me there's a lot of attacks on social media and I'm suspicious of them because

00:55:54.000 every new like fun entertainment that's come along has been blamed for the, whether it's

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00:57:30.160 So I'm a little suspicious of the attacks on social media and the gaming stuff seems like

00:57:35.200 even better than watching. Well, I don't know, because, you know, there's the incentive,

00:57:42.340 there are the rewards, there's the coordination. And it's at least of the 11 year old boys I know

00:57:48.660 they're, they're not just watching. Um, I don't know, the Kardashians, nothing like that at all.

00:57:54.420 It's the gaming stuff. And I think that's probably better than school.

00:57:58.460 Oh, in a lot of ways, when I, when I was growing up, I, uh, two games that I played colonization,

00:58:03.580 Sid Meier's colonization and civilization. Colonization is a, uh, it's a game where you

00:58:10.320 choose England, France, the Netherlands, or Spain. You then are dispatched to the new world in 1492 or

00:58:17.400 whatever. And you have little boats and you build colonies and you fight with native Americans.

00:58:21.500 I want to play this now. It is, it is to this day, this is like 1993 or whatever to this day.

00:58:26.460 It's still a really, really, really good game. As if you choose Spain, you get a bonus attacking

00:58:31.280 native Americans. It's like very brutal. And then you recruit founding fathers. And so I'm learning

00:58:37.080 about all, I'm, I'm, I'm nine years old. I mean, even think about the old monopoly. I mean,

00:58:41.420 it was sort of a, an education to play that game. You begin to learn, you know, the sort of

00:58:46.680 motives of capitalism and you build a hotel and you block some other guy who's trying

00:58:50.540 to encroach on your neighborhood. The problem I think is not just that the kids don't want

00:58:55.220 to be like their parents. The parents want to be like the kids. Yeah. That's the other

00:59:00.860 side of it. And so this sort of, these massive consultations that parents have with young

00:59:06.160 kids to, you know, where do you want to go to dinner? What place should we go to see?

00:59:11.060 And so on. And so you've just got a complete inversion of the normal relationship of young

00:59:16.080 people wanting to grow up and learn what it means to be an adult.

00:59:19.700 I wonder about this. When I was at Blink-182 just has been coming out with new music and

00:59:24.440 these guys are just entering their fifties. So they're very old and they're, you know,

00:59:28.400 Wow.

00:59:29.580 Yeah. Pop, pop, pop music. And one of the, one of the lines in their song that came out last

00:59:34.800 year is I'm a punk rock kid. And I'm like, bro, you're 50. I'm like, I'm a fan. I've been,

00:59:38.240 I've been a fan of Blink-182 since I was a kid, but like you're 50, you're not a punk

00:59:40.620 rock kid, but I get, I get what he's saying. He's not necessarily saying he's a child.

00:59:44.120 But when I was younger, when I was like 10, Blink-182 or how old was I? Like 12 or something.

00:59:51.580 Enema of the state comes out. And I was learning all these songs on guitar, but I very quickly

00:59:56.820 realized when in one of their songs, they say like mom and dad hold the key to instant

01:00:01.680 slavery. And I'm like, wait, these guys are in their mid twenties. I'm like 13. I'm like,

01:00:05.400 why is this 25 year old guy complaining about his mom? And that's when I, as a very young age,

01:00:09.280 I was like, they're pandering to me. They're lying. And I shouldn't say lying, but it's like,

01:00:15.140 these are adults making content for children. I think a component of that, there is the, some,

01:00:20.540 some, I don't know why this is. There is a desire among many adults to, like you said,

01:00:26.100 they want to be like the kids. And I'm like, why you should be like the adults, right? You know,

01:00:32.660 there's a constant desire, I guess it's because. They're afraid of aging, right? I mean,

01:00:37.000 that, that's what it is. I don't think that happens as much as you people say. No, I think it's money.

01:00:41.040 I think it's, there is a complete fear of responsibility. And so there's a need that

01:00:45.660 someone else is to blame for everything that goes wrong. I think that they want to stay these

01:00:49.380 adult children. I mean, the term adulting is sort of hilarious, but also gross, right?

01:00:54.240 You know, not having kids, there's nothing I love more than sitting around and giving people

01:00:58.360 child rearing tips, but I really do not think this is true. I can't wait for your parenting book.

01:01:02.820 I know lots of parents. I don't know anybody who, I'm sure there are bad parents out there. I am

01:01:07.960 sure that is true, but there's bad anything. There have always been bad parents. But there,

01:01:12.860 there's the trope of the, trying to be the cool mom, trying to be the cool dad, you know,

01:01:17.400 I'm hip, I'm with it. I don't think that's new. Well, it's not, of course not. It's,

01:01:21.440 you know, let's look back, it looks back at movies. Let's just say over the past.

01:01:24.740 Coffee. I'm sorry. Movies of the past 30 years. We have a coffee machine over there.

01:01:29.000 Oh, sure. If we have, you know, see if you can make it work.

01:01:33.860 You were saying? Whistle rolling, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. So, you know, look at the themes of

01:01:37.960 movies over the past three decades. By and large, what you have is you've got some parents and

01:01:42.760 they're, they're either, they're either wicked or they're uncool. They're one or the other.

01:01:48.520 And there's, there's a problem that has to be solved, but it's never going to be some dad who

01:01:53.400 solves it. If it's going to be an adult, it's going to be the mom. So that's the, the, the,

01:01:57.780 the nod to feminism. But normally it's being going to be solved by the kid.

01:02:02.040 Right. I mean, I find this really interesting because there is a phase of development where,

01:02:06.920 especially for young men, they naturally start testing their dad, right? This is something that

01:02:11.360 they, their, their neurobiology is wired to do. And so in some ways it's natural that there are

01:02:15.940 coming of age stories would have, you know, dads who eventually have to sort of step back and their,

01:02:20.600 their son takes leadership or whatever it is similar with women. Uh, but I think more than

01:02:26.440 anything, no one wants to be the adult in any of these situations. And there's sort of a desire.

01:02:31.700 Of course, parents want to relate to their kids and be cool. I don't think that's a bad thing.

01:02:34.780 I just think ultimately part of it is this fear of responsibility, this, this desire to put off

01:02:40.380 having to accept that things are hard. I mean, this is the same thing, the same justification people

01:02:43.980 have for not having children at all. I just like my lifestyle the way it is. And I don't want to

01:02:48.660 interact with, you know, children and they're sticky and they'll, they'll take up my time and

01:02:52.000 resources. There's no, yeah, they are sticky, but they ultimately give you something that is worth

01:02:57.600 having. I mean, your father, I think ultimately as much as we don't want to, um, sorry,

01:03:04.760 and leaving us as I rant about things, uh, the, as much as we don't want to just, uh, you know,

01:03:11.420 no one wants to grow up and have to do hard things on the hands. The hard things are what make life

01:03:14.580 worth living. And I think this is this infantilization of American culture that makes

01:03:19.020 it. So college is actually just a long daycare. I can't tell you how many women I knew who are like,

01:03:22.940 I'm going to get my master's because I'm not ready to get a job and be an adult. So there's

01:03:26.400 been another year dependent on their parents, if their parents can't afford it or going into

01:03:29.320 mass amounts of debt, but they don't know how they're going to pay off. It's ridiculous.

01:03:33.180 I mean, the aging point that you mentioned, I mean, Anne was, was, was sort of dismissive,

01:03:37.140 but I think it's actually true because I think that in a culture that values, uh, just youth and

01:03:43.740 appearance as opposed to wisdom, because think about it in the old days you got older, but who

01:03:48.300 cared? Because the old guys ran the society, they ran all the corporations. They were the wise people.

01:03:53.560 They told everybody else what to do. So who cares if you have some wrinkles when you're, you're the boss

01:03:58.120 of everything. But in a society where technology is comes first to the young and the old people are

01:04:05.140 out of it in a society where there's a lot of emphasis on appearance. Then you, you find this

01:04:10.940 fact that as people get older and this, especially women, they're going to fight to sort of hang on

01:04:16.220 to their thirties and hang on to their forties and so on. And so I think that that is a reason why

01:04:21.080 they, they defer to the sort of cultural superiority of the young because the young are setting the

01:04:26.780 tone and even they accept it. This is going to change because millennials are not having kids

01:04:31.900 because there's just substantially less children happening. There's one of the, I thought about

01:04:37.660 why it is that mute, uh, these bands will pander to the younger generation. Why is it that a band

01:04:42.440 in their twenties are going to write songs for children? There are more children. There's more

01:04:45.540 money to be made. Adults less likely to go out to shows and, and, and buy, buy CDs. Children more

01:04:51.460 likely to get their parents to do it for them. Parents are now shifting their spending towards the

01:04:54.660 kids. There are more kids than that. So, uh, let's say just, I'm just going to, I'm going to give you

01:04:59.280 flat arbitrary numbers. Let's say they're 100 Gen Xers. There should be 200 millennials, right?

01:05:06.380 Or there should be like one 50 is actually she knocking. So, uh, let's say, or, or at least

01:05:12.120 100, but typically it was two and a half kids. So for, for every hundred adults, that's 50 couples

01:05:18.860 you're going to get, you'll, you'll have 150 kids. That means if you're making a CD, you will make more

01:05:25.200 money selling it to the children who are going to get their parents to buy it for them. Then you would

01:05:28.820 targeting the parents. There are less of them, but as millennials and, and Gen Z likely will have

01:05:33.900 less and less kids. There's actually a chart that I was looking at showing the population growth and

01:05:38.720 it's, it's rounding off. There's the baby boom. And then it's shrinking. This means that if you're

01:05:43.380 putting on an event, let's say you're a promoter and you want to do a big music festival, what bands

01:05:48.140 are you going to book? Are you going to book the band that's going to attract Gen Z and Gen Alpha?

01:05:51.780 Why? There's less of them. If you go for the Gen X millennial, uh, bands, these are older.

01:05:57.700 These are bad, like blink one 82. They're nearing their fifties. You are going to sell more tickets

01:06:01.860 than you would if you sold to the younger generation. So this is going to cause a shift.

01:06:05.020 I think in terms of popular culture, where it used to be, you know, the Abraham, Abraham Simpson

01:06:10.880 meme, where he's talking to a young Homer and he says, I used to be with it, but then they changed

01:06:15.620 what it was. And now what it is, is scary to me. And it'll happen to you too. Uh, not anymore.

01:06:21.000 I don't think now that's why blink one 82 nearing, I think Mark is 50. I think Tom

01:06:25.760 belong is like 48. Uh, Travis is 47. They put on a new album and it's already one of their

01:06:30.260 biggest hits. So I think, uh, uh, one of the songs they put out, uh, was their fourth

01:06:34.920 biggest hit of their careers. And, and blink one 82 peaked. We thought in like 2003 when

01:06:41.740 they put off, take off your pants and jacket was the name of their album. Very silly. And

01:06:45.620 now they're back and they're doing this nostalgia song called one more time where it's like

01:06:49.660 showing old clips of them when they were very young or whatever. But because of the internet

01:06:54.180 and because of the, the way the population trend is happening, it's not so much that,

01:06:59.120 uh, they'll make more than they did then it's that in terms of how many hits are they going

01:07:05.460 to get? And are they going to be on the top of the charts? Yes. They put out a song and

01:07:08.760 it reached, uh, uh, it was like a top 10 or I don't know. It was a, it was a number one

01:07:12.460 single or whatever. 20, 30 years later, after the, after the height of their success, they're

01:07:16.740 back. And it's, it's, it's how many people are going to listen to music and will this

01:07:22.780 result in a gold record, a platinum record and sales? There are not enough young people

01:07:27.500 relative to how these, there's, there's more young people today. Of course, older people

01:07:31.620 die, but it's not at the degree of expansion as it used to be. I think this trend is going

01:07:36.800 to change the way things develop culturally. And we're seeing it.

01:07:39.640 How much of the blink one 82 and you're, you're more knowledgeable than I am, but how much

01:07:44.260 of their current sort of revival is time to, uh, Travis Barker's personal life, right?

01:07:50.220 Like, so he's, he's now married to Kardashian. So there's a whole group of people who probably

01:07:54.060 may have listened to blink one 82 may not have, who are now interested in what he's doing.

01:07:58.380 His son is dating, uh, one of the D'Amelio sisters who is this huge TikTok star. They are

01:08:03.220 able to sort of reemerge into public knowledge in a way that I don't know that everyone could

01:08:08.760 because of these social connections.

01:08:10.100 That's a good, I look, uh, metric just put out their second album in like a year and a

01:08:15.100 half metrics, not nearly as big as blink one 82, but, um, today, Chloe Kardashian, not even

01:08:21.060 that actually. So I think it's also the internet has changed the way we can distribute and build

01:08:25.620 fan bases back in the day record labels going to say, how many sales are we getting on this

01:08:30.800 album? We're not getting that many people are getting older. They're buying less music.

01:08:34.260 They're listening to music. They remember from, they were kids and they're spending money on

01:08:37.220 their kids. The kids want new music for a younger generation. So what happens is you eventually

01:08:41.440 say, I wonder whatever happened to that band? Well, yeah, it's the record labels are like,

01:08:44.980 we're not going to invest in a fading rock band with the internet. Now they're like, no,

01:08:49.100 their fan base has never left and their fan base wants new music and it's not even purchased

01:08:53.120 anymore. It's streaming. So as long as you can keep them, the treadmill rolling, they'll keep

01:08:57.160 producing more and more music. Now you have bands that are in their fifties producing music

01:09:02.080 for the same demographic. It's, it's, it's, I think it's causing a hard cultural, like an

01:09:08.680 ossification. I'm not seeing it develop. I just like the internet, the main, most important change,

01:09:13.980 I think the internet made to music was, um, for the young kids out there, you used to have to buy

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01:10:47.440 D. That sucked for one good song. Man, they ran that scam for a long time.

01:10:56.100 But there are tons of albums that it's just like, man, they had so many good songs on an

01:11:02.040 album like that. And a lot of the songs didn't make it. Yeah, they were called greatest hits.

01:11:05.980 No, Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness by Smashing Pumpkins.

01:11:11.120 You're right. Actually, as we got closer to the internet, they got better.

01:11:15.780 Yeah. I mean, but it's just there are good bands and there are bad bands. And there were bad bands

01:11:19.600 that had one good song and they'd sell you the whole album. But then there were good bands.

01:11:22.960 Well, I think the other factor is that and this is what technology has changed is that

01:11:27.120 a bad band could survive in a small town because there was nowhere else to go. So you'd have to

01:11:33.260 listen to that music because that was the only music around. But the moment you can now tap into

01:11:38.200 and this applies, by the way, to lots of other things. You know, let's say pastors. You could

01:11:43.220 used to be four churches in the town and, you know, they're all probably horrible, but that's

01:11:47.660 OK. That's all you get. But now you can live stream a service.

01:11:50.080 Right. Now, exactly. You can listen to a pastor who's speaking to the whole country or perhaps

01:11:54.400 the whole world.

01:11:55.460 Well, let's bring this to the political world.

01:11:57.640 To social media censorship.

01:11:59.420 So ask yourself, why is it that Ocasio-Cortez and the squad members get elected?

01:12:04.820 First, immigration, everything comes back to immigration. Of course it is. We dumped 100,000,

01:12:11.540 200,000 Somalis.

01:12:13.280 That's not what happened in Minnesota.

01:12:14.600 Now, that may be for Ilhan Omar to a great degree. Yes.

01:12:16.660 Yeah.

01:12:17.240 But you look at look at their donations and why is it that they out fundraise their more

01:12:21.100 establishment Democrat counterparts? What happens is 20 years ago, you would have to go to your

01:12:27.220 community and fundraise. AOC does not do this. The squad members overwhelmingly get their money

01:12:32.800 from outside their districts. So let's say you live in a small town with no internet. This is

01:12:37.420 20 years ago. You go door to door and you ask everyone for a dollar. 99 out of 100 people all

01:12:43.300 say we are fairly moderate individuals. And you say, OK, if I want to raise money, I have to

01:12:48.820 work on behalf of those 99. The one crazy person runs out screaming, demanding no borders and saying,

01:12:54.840 no borders. This country is an evil empire and they don't like Israel and all that stuff.

01:12:58.800 And you're like, I don't need their dollar. OK, I have to work towards my constituency.

01:13:04.600 That's not what AOC does with the Internet. AOC asks that one crazy person in every city to

01:13:12.060 contribute to her campaign, which gets her hundreds of thousands of dollars. She represents no one.

01:13:16.920 But with all of that money she gained from everyone outside the district, she outcompetes,

01:13:21.680 say Crowley in a district that is overwhelmingly Democrat, kind of a celebrity.

01:13:25.800 She I mean, I don't say that in a flattering way, but her followers are not in her district,

01:13:30.380 but she's a celebrity. But that always happened once you have the name. Now she's a celebrity.

01:13:35.820 This would happen with or without. It happened to every single candidate who ran against Jesse

01:13:41.020 Helms. All the money came from Hollywood and everybody knew it. And here's the issue.

01:13:47.120 If you had to pander to Hollywood, you would be pandering to a specific ideology now.

01:13:52.160 No, they just had more money. I mean, liberals across the country.

01:13:54.700 You're donating to anyone running against Jesse Helms. You missed my point.

01:13:57.880 And you had to go to Hollywood and say, and like, what does Hollywood want?

01:14:00.840 You didn't have to do it. You just say, I'm running against Jesse Helms. People open their

01:14:04.120 checkbooks.

01:14:04.500 I think a factor here is the radicalization of educated, elite college, rich whites. I mean,

01:14:13.920 that's a fact because AOC, Cori Bush, all these people are pandering to that constituency

01:14:21.400 because that's the constituency that has the dollars. So this has occurred through a mechanism

01:14:27.620 of indoctrination stretching through the universities and the media for 30 years.

01:14:32.200 But the white educated class is the real constituency of BLM.

01:14:37.580 I don't doubt AOC or Ilhan Omar get a lot from the big donors we talk about.

01:14:42.980 No, they don't. They're getting money from fringe lunatics across the country that normally have

01:14:47.800 no voice.

01:14:48.200 And they're co-religionous.

01:14:49.240 I think you can make a comparison to what you're saying about buying CDs. You know,

01:14:52.140 there's one song you like and so you buy the whole CD. I think that a lot of the people

01:14:56.020 who campaign right now know they just need to hit one talking point or one policy, especially

01:15:00.160 as we go into a presidential election when these, you know, debate stages are so crowded.

01:15:03.800 They just need one soundbite that will make one, you know, one more donor join their their

01:15:08.360 camp. Right. Yeah, it doesn't. You don't need to be a fully formed, excellent CD. You just

01:15:12.280 need to be a one hit wonder and they'll buy the entire package.

01:15:14.800 Yes. Well, I think that's true generally. I mean, what do you think, Dinesh? We've seen

01:15:21.300 a lot of the same presidential campaigns. It seems to me you need like three issues if you're

01:15:28.160 running for president. And more than that, and we forget, you should have a competent answer.

01:15:31.960 You know, if you're asked about water policy in Flint, but what you are running on, what

01:15:37.500 you're campaigning on, one, two, three issues are basically, I think, the maximum you should

01:15:43.260 have. I agree. I mean, Lincoln ran on one issue. I mean, he basically ran on, I will stop

01:15:49.760 the extension of slavery cold in its tracks. And that's what I'm running on. And you could

01:15:55.380 fault him on a whole bunch of other issues. But essentially, he's like, that is the issue

01:16:00.160 that matters right now. So I think part of political skill is to be able to identify and

01:16:05.980 then frame that issue in a way that forces people to make a choice your way. And that's

01:16:12.880 how you, that's how you travel as a candidate.

01:16:15.360 What do you guys think is going to happen next year? And I know you're more pro-DeSantis.

01:16:20.960 Are you for DeSantis explicitly?

01:16:22.120 Um, yeah, I mean, give me another option, but wow, he does everything Trump said he was

01:16:30.840 going to do and didn't do. Um, and I mean, he's just been the energizer bunny. He's unbelievably

01:16:39.060 competent. He knows what's going on. I don't care that about the charisma issue. And, you

01:16:43.740 know, I was just thinking about this this week because, um, I wrote about for my column,

01:16:48.540 which is at my sub stack and colder.substack.com. Sorry, I haven't mentioned that one time. And

01:16:53.600 that's why I'm doing this podcast. Um, police state film.net.

01:16:59.300 Exactly. Exactly. Well, actually now's the best time to announce it.

01:17:01.820 There was a sick story that you, you guys might, might've heard about. It was just so sick

01:17:06.460 in New York city. This, this week, there was a judge. There were these sick parents who

01:17:10.780 were beating their little three week old. Um, when she was three weeks old, had broken ankles,

01:17:16.240 brain hemorrhage, broken skull, um, three weeks old. So social workers put her into foster

01:17:22.260 care. Um, she, they come up again before a judge and the social workers and childcare advocates,

01:17:29.220 whatever they're begging the judge, do not send her back to these parents. Do not send

01:17:33.040 her back. And the judge says, no, we need family reunification, family. So he sent the next

01:17:39.980 day, they give her the fatal blow. She dies in the hospital two days later. Um, and it

01:17:45.680 brought me back to when I worked in, in Congress in the U S Senate, it was after the 1994 election

01:17:52.660 and you three, but you aren't are too young to remember this life is really fun when Republicans

01:18:00.720 win elections. And in 1994, man, that was unbelievable. Not only do Republicans take Congress for the first

01:18:09.180 time in 40 years, but gigantic majorities in the house and the Senate. We had so many Republicans in the

01:18:15.320 Senate that they had to, the way your offices are assigned, they go to what your, your previous job

01:18:21.620 was. So if you were a Senator, obviously you're above a house member and then they go to like

01:18:25.520 governors and then state legislatures, that sort of thing. We had so many new members, all Republicans,

01:18:31.420 they had to go to a little known rule, the order in which your state was admitted to the union.

01:18:37.460 Wow. Now the stuff we got done, the changes to immigration, the changes to the death penalty.

01:18:43.160 We had no death penalty in America. I mean, they've sort of rolled a lot of these changes

01:18:46.760 back. They've rolled a lot of the immigration changes back. But one of the big changes that

01:18:50.320 I remembered when I read the story, and that's what I wrote about was it used to be kids could

01:18:55.080 never get adopted. Mom, you know, the crack addicted mom would put the baby in the vat of

01:18:59.660 boiling water and the judge would say, yep, going back to her. And so kids would be foster care.

01:19:04.900 Mom would beat the crap out of her. Foster care, mom beats the crap out of her. And it would go on

01:19:09.420 for years. They'd never get adopted. So we passed a law, safety first, children's safety first. And

01:19:16.120 more than half as many kids have been saved by that, like a thousand a year. So I'm sorry,

01:19:24.120 you ask about next year. And I just want Republicans to be serious and not be defeatist and not be like

01:19:29.120 the Tea Party, because I also lived through that where we had, woohoo, Christine O'Donnell took out a

01:19:34.400 rhino, took out a rhino. Yeah, okay. And we lost like half a dozen Senate seats and got Obamacare.

01:19:40.400 Winning majorities is important. Winning majorities is fun. Please stop saying,

01:19:45.480 you know, chaos, war. No, we have the upper hand right now. They are pushing crime. They are pushing

01:19:51.940 open borders. They are pushing transgenders. Just keep your heads, Republicans, and stop doing the

01:19:58.120 defeatist crap.

01:19:58.880 I mean, thinking back to the Reagan years, nobody used the phrase rhino. I mean, there were

01:20:04.420 moderate Republicans, but the understanding was they're Republicans. I mean, there's a reason they

01:20:09.580 have an R at the end of their name. They're not wearing it as a mask.

01:20:11.880 That's right. They're not fake. And we don't want to kick them out. Our job is to actually rein them

01:20:17.680 in and bring them into the team. And I think that the lesson of Reagan was that he was philosophically

01:20:24.460 very grounded, but temperamentally very genial. The cocked head, the easygoing manner. And that

01:20:30.980 allows people, even who are to the left of you, to go, okay, well, this guy's going to hear me out.

01:20:36.140 He's going to meet me halfway. He has a conservative destination, but he's pragmatic about getting from

01:20:43.380 here to there. And we've lost all that. In fact, I would say that our defining characteristic on the

01:20:48.280 right has been philosophically unsteady, but temperamentally fanatical.

01:20:53.220 Yes. Well put.

01:20:55.640 So you've got all these guys who are, they're not that strong on the issues, but they're kooks.

01:21:00.860 Yes. God bless you.

01:21:03.840 It's a really bad combination. So there's a lot of lessons to be learned, I think.

01:21:09.440 And I mean, you mentioned the Trump-DeSantis thing. I mean, to me, they both bring different

01:21:17.860 things to the table. And in a healthy Republican party, you'd have both elements. And what are the

01:21:23.340 two elements I'm talking about here? Well, with DeSantis, a ruthless operational efficiency,

01:21:28.580 which is critical to government. Somebody who knows how to burrow into the bureaucracy,

01:21:32.620 fire that guy, change this rule. That's really important stuff.

01:21:36.860 But the other part of it is this, well, it's the larger than life quality that I think Reagan had

01:21:45.800 and Trump does have. I mean, if DeSantis walked into this room right now, we'd be like, hey,

01:21:50.140 there's Ron DeSantis. But if Trump walked into this room right now, a kind of electric current would go

01:21:55.180 through the room. And I've seen this happen time and time again. And I think that explains-

01:21:59.240 That would be my mace going off.

01:22:01.080 Well, it may be, but see, the point is you're telling us who you think the best guy for the

01:22:06.740 job is. I think we have to explain why the majority of the Republican base is continually

01:22:13.320 and naturally attracted to Trump. That's what needs explanation.

01:22:17.160 I agree with you. And to put another way what you just put, you remind me, this is what used to drive

01:22:25.400 me crazy about Trump. You'd get these wild statements and the press would act as if once

01:22:30.800 it comes out of his mouth, it's happened. And so our side would think, whoa, that's so great.

01:22:35.880 He's going to end Anchor Babies. Yeah, yeah. But he never ended Anchor Babies.

01:22:40.140 It's a follow-through you're concerned about.

01:22:41.780 But he was, what you want is, you want to be like a duck. This is what you just remind me of how

01:22:47.600 you need to have a friendly demeanor and that sort of, you want to be floating peacefully on top of

01:22:54.240 the water. But underneath, you're peddling, peddling, peddling, peddling, you're going crazy.

01:22:57.640 Trump was exactly the reverse above the water. It's crazy, not to, whoa, drowning, and nothing's

01:23:03.560 actually happening. And nothing's happening below the water.

01:23:07.000 Why do you think it is that, I think, what was about a year and a half ago, a year ago,

01:23:11.580 Ron DeSantis was the favorite. He was polling better. He, in the prediction markets,

01:23:17.140 he was in the top spot. Trump was in second place. As of right now, I'm predicted he's in

01:23:22.200 third place behind Nikki Haley. What, what, what causes the indictments, the utterly BS indictments

01:23:28.440 against Trump. I think the left, but how does that get playing us like playing the Republican

01:23:32.940 party? Like Nikki Haley's beating Ron DeSantis. First, let's deal with Trump and then I'll deal

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01:25:12.700 Does become the nominee? No, I think they genuinely they're there. Luckily, they're crazies.

01:25:17.020 They're moving in the same direction. So you have the smart ones like Carville and Axelrod realizing,

01:25:22.840 hey, if we keep doing these BS attacks, another Russian investigation would be great. But that won't

01:25:27.900 work because that gins up people. It's totally unfair. It's like going to the doctor's office

01:25:32.480 and he hits your knee with the metal pallet. You just you can't help when someone who's is being

01:25:37.440 unfairly attacked and all except that the Florida indictment is is a real crime. But put a pin in

01:25:43.960 that. He was dead in the water. Trump was. I mean, you can see it from the polling when he announced

01:25:50.660 nobody was there. Nobody cared. He was dead. That's when DeSantis was beating him. And after that first

01:25:56.460 indictment in New York, that's the first time Trump's polls went up and they won't stop talking

01:26:01.140 about it. And they keep doing these BS unfair indictments. So the smart ones, Axelrod and that

01:26:06.260 type are saying, this is fantastic. We're going to trick them into making Trump their nominee. And

01:26:10.960 that's our reelection plan for Joe Biden. And then the, you know, Joy Ann Reads and the entire MSNBC,

01:26:17.720 the entire network, they just genuinely, genuinely hate Trump. So it works perfectly, perfectly together.

01:26:26.460 But that's when his numbers went up. And I mean, we'll see what happens.

01:26:30.700 But why wasn't DeSantis able to maintain the momentum that he initially had at that point?

01:26:35.120 It's Trump's numbers going up. If you look at the actual, it's not like people who are leaving

01:26:41.100 DeSantis. And Nikki, I think it's the donors, the neocon warmonger donors. She is perfect.

01:26:47.540 She's got Will Hurd's endorsement, the CIA operative.

01:26:50.420 If we pull up 538's polling aggregate shows you a bunch of the polls. I don't know if it's all of

01:26:57.060 the polls, but it's a list of a large amount of polls. We can see in the latest that from Beacon

01:27:02.120 Research and Shaw, which is a Fox News sponsored poll, Trump beats Biden by two points, Haley by

01:27:06.980 four, DeSantis by two. And then in another one of their same polls, they found Biden beating Trump by

01:27:12.400 one. Interesting. We have this from Morning Consult showing DeSantis loses to Biden by three and Trump

01:27:18.240 loses to Biden by one. There are a couple polls here that show DeSantis performing worse than

01:27:25.460 Donald Trump in this one, but still winning premise as DeSantis beating Biden by three points and two

01:27:29.840 points. And then we have Trump beating. This is amazing. It's coming from premise. Trump beating

01:27:34.600 Biden by 10 points. I think the polls and the prediction markets are reflecting something. It's not

01:27:39.160 so I don't know. I think our next podcast should be in the Newt Gingrich Presidential Museum

01:27:45.280 because he was crushing the polls December before the election where he was wiped out.

01:27:50.880 Or we could meet in the Rudy Giuliani Presidential Museum the year before crushing, crushing the polls.

01:27:57.300 No one came close. Or the Liddy Dole Presidential Museum. Now, she wasn't crushing them, but she was

01:28:02.560 neck and neck with Bush. Or the Fred Thompson Presidential Polls. The year before an election,

01:28:08.500 it's mostly name recognition. Now, it could still end up being the best, the most well-known name in

01:28:16.240 the universe right now. But I don't think the polls right now mean very much.

01:28:21.720 Granted that, I do think that we need to explain what's in front of us, right? We need to say why

01:28:27.220 things are right now. Admittedly, things can change the way they are. And I think that with DeSantis,

01:28:33.760 there is a... And I like DeSantis. And DeSantis was actually helpful to me when I had my case with

01:28:40.100 the Obama administration. He was then a congressman. There's something a little prosaic about him.

01:28:47.220 He feels like he's giving you kind of a policy lecture of sorts. The thing about Trump that is

01:28:53.520 so paradoxical is that Trump lives in this sort of gold-glittered Mar-a-Lago world. But there's

01:29:00.500 a relatability to him that people pick up very quickly. I mean, I've seen in the... Just... I mean,

01:29:05.580 I'm talking about Hispanics in the Rio Grande Valley. These are basically working class people.

01:29:10.540 They love Trump. I mean, they get in their cars and they make the big Trump train.

01:29:17.100 They're not going to do a DeSantis train. They don't have that same connection with the guy.

01:29:22.740 And it just... It's just a... I don't know if that's something that can be politically taught,

01:29:27.640 but you recognize it when you see it. I think you have to go with the personality you have.

01:29:32.580 I mean, you're right. Luckily, we don't have to run against Obama again. I think

01:29:35.860 Obama was the most talented politician, certainly, of my lifetime. Reagan would probably come in second.

01:29:43.500 But now, I mean, forgetting their policies... For one thing, the country has kind of switched

01:29:49.780 back and forth between someone with charisma and someone with no charisma. So that is helpful.

01:29:53.980 But you have to go with who you are and what you are. I don't think Richard Nixon had a dazzling,

01:30:00.540 charismatic personality. And except for a few things, he was an extremely good president.

01:30:06.460 So Ian Crossland, who's on TimCast IRL, said that he recently listened to a Trump rally for like the

01:30:12.700 first time. And it was hilarious. Then he comes back a couple days, you know, like yesterday,

01:30:17.240 and he's like, he's considering voting for Trump for the first time.

01:30:19.520 And I got invited to the White House a couple years ago for the social media summit. And

01:30:24.680 anybody who's been to a Trump rally, he's doing stand-up. It is, it is...

01:30:28.720 He is a comedian.

01:30:29.540 It's political.

01:30:30.380 Absolutely.

01:30:30.580 It is, it's, it's, it's, you know, when I was...

01:30:32.820 I can't imagine this being his first time hearing a Trump rally.

01:30:37.620 By the 14th time, it's not so much fun. It's, he's been saying the exact same things

01:30:46.540 for seven years.

01:30:47.540 Yeah, but non-political people never hear him.

01:30:49.020 And you and I go on book tours, we give speeches, we're giving the same speech 20 times,

01:30:53.060 but not to the same people.

01:30:54.460 So Ian, absolutely...

01:30:55.740 I think, I think a lot of people, Ian's, I think very unusual if this is the first time

01:31:00.100 he's seen Trump speak.

01:31:01.780 Absolutely. It's true for a lot of people.

01:31:03.920 I don't think so.

01:31:04.480 Brandon Strzok tells the story about how he just believed what the media had been saying.

01:31:08.400 And then when he tried to debunk this claim, he ended up actually proving Trump was right

01:31:13.440 and the media was lying because he had never actually watched him speak before.

01:31:16.340 A lot of people, the only thing they hear from Trump is what the CNN or MSNBC is going

01:31:21.460 to tell them. They don't actually listen to his speeches.

01:31:23.280 In 2016, the media thought showing Trump was hurting him.

01:31:28.320 You couldn't turn on CNN or MSNBC or a lot of C-SPAN.

01:31:32.360 It was Fox that was against him then, of course.

01:31:36.820 His speeches were running 24-7. They thought it helped them.

01:31:40.060 And Ian doesn't watch the news.

01:31:41.140 Okay, I'm sure there are. Well, okay, that's why I don't trust the polls right now, by the way.

01:31:45.900 But I think that is not, I don't think that's proof of mine.

01:31:50.040 Well, I think, let me put it this way. I think we're missing an element of Trump that

01:31:54.180 makes him different than other politicians. Let's just say that we have a typical politician,

01:31:58.880 Republican or Democrat, that meets with Kim Jong-un, you know, and comes out and is,

01:32:04.540 they'll have a statement. The two of us conducted a discussion,

01:32:08.240 very substantive issues were raised. We raised our concerns about human rights, blah, blah, blah.

01:32:14.060 People have heard this a hundred times. They tune it right out.

01:32:17.060 Trump will come out and he'll be like, man, I, you know, I asked him if he knew what Rocket Man

01:32:23.180 meant and I gave him a CD. And the room was, you know, he was a really short guy and he was eating,

01:32:29.180 you know, a pretzel while we were talking.

01:32:31.520 And so people are like fascinated because they're like, I'm not in politics. I don't know what these

01:32:35.820 summits are like. But when I listen to Trump, I'm listening to a real guy tell me that this guy's

01:32:41.040 fat and he's thin and he farted during our conversation and he was overeating. Whereas

01:32:45.940 every other politician is giving me a kind of a prepared memo. And I think that's a lot of what...

01:32:52.780 I don't find that attractive at all. I mean, maybe you do and young men do.

01:32:56.880 It's interesting. It may not be attractive. It's interesting, isn't it?

01:32:58.820 In order to win elections, we need suburban women. We need independents. We need conservative

01:33:03.440 Democrats. We need the rhinos you were talking about who do have the R after their name. And I

01:33:08.660 think most of that crap from Trump, I mean, it was 100% worth it. There's a reason I wrote in

01:33:14.880 Trump We Trust for the promises he was making. But and also when you talk about, you know,

01:33:19.580 the bold statements and the things he comes out and says, yeah, what I remember was build the wall

01:33:24.780 and I'm going to deport illegal so fast your head will spin. And dreamers, I want Americans to have

01:33:30.800 dreams and gun free zones don't work. And then he gets elected and says, I'm in favor of taking

01:33:36.740 their guns first. Oh, you guys are afraid of the NRA. Not me. Bump stock ban. Nothing on illegals,

01:33:44.480 nothing on the wall. So I remember those. You can't really make those statements and

01:33:49.100 manifestly. So did a lot of his base voters, because the only demographic that went down

01:33:54.960 compared to 2016 in 2020 was white men. And it went down a lot. And it went down in all those

01:34:01.960 states across the upper Midwest that he needed to win. Oh, yeah, he didn't didn't need the NRA.

01:34:06.720 Turns out maybe maybe he should have been afraid of the NRA. So what gets those people back in the

01:34:11.240 states that Trump needs to win or what gets independent voters this year? Is there one issue

01:34:14.920 that you think? I mean, I assume you're going to say immigration. Of course, immigration. Of

01:34:18.980 course, immigration, crime, transgenders. I mean, the wokeness stuff. And the one the one thing,

01:34:25.100 if I could advise DeSantis, the one way I think he should modify the wokeness thing is it's not just

01:34:32.220 about kindergartners. And I think people are too focused on the schools on that. What is wokeness?

01:34:38.300 It's anti white racism, plus cartoons of anal sex. That's basically the full panoply of what it's

01:34:46.000 the D.I.E. bureaucracies. It's the it's the race before merit thing. It's no longer deciding things

01:34:53.360 on the basis of merit. It is the anti white male hatred. I mean, animates the left. You said you

01:35:00.360 said earlier in this very discussion that white people are the only group that have been taught

01:35:06.160 to hate themselves. I think they do it on their own. All right. They do it on their own. And

01:35:10.860 maybe they're taught to do it. But how do you think then then running a campaign appealing to

01:35:17.820 white people and saying, in effect, that there's this anti white ideology in the country? How is

01:35:23.960 that going to be a winning technique? Well, manifestly, I don't think I mean, if if all white

01:35:29.240 people were liberals. Oh, what a horrible, horrible thought. Then we'd have no we wouldn't

01:35:35.100 get a single vote. I'm saying working class white guys, working class white guys. They don't hate

01:35:39.200 white. No, the vast majority of white people don't hate themselves. There are enough in European

01:35:43.820 countries. There are enough in this country to have suicidal immigration policies, to have suicidal

01:35:49.100 hiring policies. If it were 100 percent, then literally you might as well go and commit suicide.

01:35:55.460 Republicans would never win a single election. Nothing would happen anyplace. But no, that

01:36:00.900 obviously Trump got elected one time by appealing to mostly working class whites who hadn't voted for

01:36:08.560 a long, long time. And but mostly I just think it's true. The anti white racism. I think it's true

01:36:16.500 when it's hurting everyone. I'm worried about, you know, the pilots they're hiring. I'm worried about

01:36:20.480 the air traffic controllers. It's destroying all of our lives. And the treating

01:36:24.960 black people like like their children and patting them on the head when they're the shoplifting and

01:36:30.480 the carjacking. But I would make the wokeness, anti white racism, crime and immigration.

01:36:35.960 What are you do? What do you think are getting independence in particular to the polls?

01:36:40.760 I think that we just run a scorched earth campaign against Biden and what the Biden regime is doing.

01:36:47.700 And what are the Biden regime's three biggest sins?

01:36:50.440 Well, its biggest sin now is a wholesale assault on the basic liberty of Americans. I mean, when I came

01:36:57.400 to America in the 70s, I was a teenager. And there was a quick political debate going on. But one of

01:37:04.100 the things that really consoled me or relieved me about America, I'm like, look, there are certain

01:37:08.920 basic rights. They're right there in the Bill of Rights. It's not a full compendium of our rights,

01:37:13.380 but right to free speech, right to conscience, right to assemble. You can petition the government

01:37:18.860 without fear for grievances, equal justice under the law. And I'm like, this is not up for political

01:37:24.960 negotiation. It doesn't matter if 90% of people don't agree with me, they can't shut me up.

01:37:29.440 Right? So now we fast forward to now. And I say that within two or three years, all these basic

01:37:35.020 rights, every single one of them is in serious jeopardy. I'm not even sure with a straight face,

01:37:39.600 I could say that we are, in a pure sense, a free country anymore. Think of what the defining

01:37:45.200 characteristics of tyrannical regimes are. Let's take North Korea, China, or the old Soviet Union.

01:37:50.660 Mass surveillance of citizens, systematic censorship, wholesale indoctrination in the schools and the

01:37:56.800 media, a one-party state. Police states are one-party states. They shut down the opposition.

01:38:01.960 Doesn't mean they don't have elections. Iran has elections. China has elections. But it's a

01:38:06.200 controlled opposition that's subordinate to the regime. Political prisoners. Criminalization of

01:38:11.620 dissent. And I say, wow, we have all that right now in this country. So that's the point of making

01:38:16.120 a movie called Police State, is saying, we're not there yet. Obviously, if we were a full-fledged

01:38:20.480 police state, I couldn't make this movie. I mean, I'd be locked up right now. But we are headed in,

01:38:25.800 with great speed and unexpected rapidity, toward a country in which none of our rights anymore are safe.

01:38:34.880 Do you feel like this is something that the average American is aware of? Or do you think that,

01:38:41.120 you know, inflation- They know about January 6th.

01:38:44.060 Right. I was going to say, what issues distract people? It's not that I don't disagree with your

01:38:48.960 point, but, you know, when you are talking about voters, if you say your rights are being stripped

01:38:53.360 away, is that more impactful to them than saying, you can't pay for groceries this month because

01:38:59.180 inflation is so high?

01:39:00.280 Well, yeah, it's not one or the other, right? I mean, just like you can run on the economy and

01:39:06.520 you can run on the transgender issue. One doesn't contradict the other. But I think you have to,

01:39:11.640 I mean, the reason to make a film is to do a wake-up call for people who are not woken up,

01:39:16.720 right? If they were already woken up, the film is, in a sense, pointless. I kind of feel like the

01:39:20.700 animal who sees the predator in the trees. I'm trying to warn the herd. But the ordinary guy is

01:39:26.000 saying, no, the ordinary guy goes, I'm not Trump. And, you know, I didn't go in the Capitol in

01:39:30.440 January 6th and I pay my taxes. So, you know, I'm never going to have the FBI come smashing through

01:39:35.800 my door. And my point is you could not be more wrong. Sure. Because this thing has devolved

01:39:41.920 very quickly in a short time. Although it's awful what was done to the January 6th protesters,

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01:41:17.480 Certainly people who watch this podcast and be annoyed by it. By and large, I would avoid

01:41:25.700 bringing up January 6th. I wrote a book on mobs, demonic. They're always, always dangerous. It's

01:41:32.540 the French Revolution versus the American Revolution. And when I wrote that book and up

01:41:36.340 until January 6th, I could say without fear of contradiction, there has never been a right-wing

01:41:41.940 mob. And January 6th, I understand why people thought it was Antifa at first. I understand why

01:41:49.780 the Capitol policeman said, no, we don't need, or I don't know, Nancy Pelosi, the rest of them,

01:41:55.800 they weren't bringing in. There hadn't been a right-wing mob before. And now there's finally

01:42:00.120 been one. And we're all going to be in the nursing home someday. And they're still going to be talking

01:42:05.880 about January 6th. It does not reflect well on us. They were idiots. They shouldn't have gone to

01:42:12.580 prison for, you know, two life terms and so on and so forth. What was done to Enrique Tarrio,

01:42:18.080 absolutely outrageous. But generally, I'd avoid talking about it.

01:42:22.060 Why be so deferential to the left?

01:42:24.380 Because I don't think it helps us for people to remember what happened on January 6th. I think

01:42:28.720 that scares independents. I think it scares suburban moms. I think it pisses off a lot of Republicans.

01:42:33.940 I mean, it kind of pisses me off. Both sides, that they did it. And then the wild, crazy

01:42:39.700 overreaction. I mean, this is, my last book was Resistance is Fusile. And the point of it was,

01:42:45.320 and we're never, ever going to get away from it. Trump does something dumb. And then the left has

01:42:51.700 such a crazy overreaction. I end up coming to his defense. No, he said something dumb,

01:42:58.680 but he didn't kill three nuns. No MSNBC. He didn't nail a kitten to church doors. And they keep

01:43:05.360 overreacting and forcing me to defend whether it's Trump or the January 6th people. Your reaction is

01:43:12.540 so out of proportion to everything that just happened. You're making me switch sides.

01:43:17.520 So the issue for me is that politics means very little. If the attitude everyone's going to have

01:43:23.880 is when the left cries, we answer. Why? If they come out and they're like, Trump said a naughty

01:43:29.580 word. I'll say, you're a moron. Have a nice day. Yes. The stories you're putting forward are

01:43:33.240 meaningless to me. Yes. It's every single time there's a story that if something happens and

01:43:40.540 let's say there's a story that Andy no tweeted about a swastika up here on some cars in a black

01:43:44.300 neighborhood. The left went nuts and screaming about it. Turns out it was a black man who did it.

01:43:47.520 And then it's gone. Yeah. So if the anti-establishment forces, conservatives,

01:43:53.240 the right libertarians do not put all of their energy into cultural domination, it's pointless

01:43:58.300 because the conversation we end up having is Donald Trump said a thing that was innocuous and it

01:44:03.040 became front page news and we all must answer for it. No. Now it's start setting the news cycle.

01:44:10.880 We need to set the news. We've been doing it quite a bit. I should say, I mean, we as an anti-establishment

01:44:16.120 forces calling out Joe Biden on Burisma and keeping Hunter Biden in the spotlight, forcing them to answer

01:44:21.520 to us. Exactly. And I think also what happens with things like January 6th is a kind of, you know,

01:44:27.460 the smoke arises and a narrative appears. And even we who know that the narrative is false start

01:44:32.560 believing it. So, for example, they wanted to stop the count. Well, no. What was actually going on

01:44:40.220 in January 6th in that building was challenging the election? That was the count that was stopped.

01:44:46.740 It was the challenge that was stopped. So did the people who go into that building, were they trying

01:44:51.380 to stop the challenge? No. The Democrats actually had an incentive to stop the challenges. And in fact,

01:44:58.560 the challenges were stopped because right after January 6th, it's like, okay, let's just go quickly

01:45:03.240 and certify Joe Biden. So now you begin to see that the other side has a motive for having those

01:45:08.760 people in the building. It was a more convoluted fire alarm. Exactly. So the January 6th committee

01:45:14.200 knows all this and they're like, listen, we can't let this cat out of the bag. So we need to construct

01:45:19.900 a careful public narrative and make sure everybody signs on the dotted line. They want people thinking

01:45:25.560 about January 6th. They want to keep showing those videos because every time those videos are shown,

01:45:30.520 no matter what, we know what happened later. But it was not good for the right wing. It was not good

01:45:38.020 for freedom for that to happen. And what needs to happen is for every anti-establishment media

01:45:45.240 outlet to run nonstop footage and videos of May 29th when they firebombed the White House.

01:45:50.700 Yes, yes, yes. But for some reason. Yes. Or how about burning down the Minneapolis police station?

01:45:57.460 That was, that was what kicked it all off. Firebombing the White House. Yep.

01:46:01.840 I would say is actually worse. And attacking that beautiful church. And the church. They said that.

01:46:06.920 And so they said what ended up happening was that it was the White House grounds that were

01:46:10.000 firebombed. They set fire to a guard post was torched and they torched the church across the

01:46:14.440 street. There were thousands of far leftists, hundreds of law enforcement injured. And I guarantee

01:46:20.160 if you go to a regular person and ask them about May 29th, they'll say, huh? Yes, you're absolutely

01:46:24.600 right. Because what happens is May 29th happens and the right marches behind the New York Times.

01:46:31.120 Too many Republicans care more about the opinion of the New York Times and their own constituents.

01:46:34.820 And so the narrative is always framed by the left and Democrats.

01:46:38.520 I think, could I, sorry, I just want to put a footnote onto that. Um, I don't think you can blame

01:46:45.780 the Republicans for this. The left controls the media. They really, really do.

01:46:51.860 Only because they let him. Because Republicans, Donald Trump keeps giving interviews to people

01:46:56.000 who lie about it. Well, that is true. Stop. That is true. We had all these, and he did not

01:47:00.740 give interviews to the people who supported him during the campaign. But I just remember when I

01:47:04.800 was working for the Senate Judiciary Committee, my friends would be calling me saying, why aren't

01:47:09.000 you covering, you know, X, Y, Z, this thing or the other thing? And I'd say, we just had three

01:47:13.840 hearings on it. We've been putting out press releases. We're calling everyone, giving you this

01:47:18.380 information. How do you not know? Blacklist them. Why Republicans are, you are there. I agree with

01:47:25.340 you, but they're still going to dominate the media. And yes, that's a very good point you're making.

01:47:29.240 Let them not have access to any information coming from, uh, from the right or the anti-establishment

01:47:35.260 side. Let them be left. And by the way, you know who's following your policy? Who's it?

01:47:40.640 Ron DeSantis. Well, didn't he do an interview with CNN?

01:47:43.700 Very rarely. He's been, he's been governor for what, six years? And he, you don't see him

01:47:50.840 talking to the liberal media. It's kind of hilarious and they're really bitter about it.

01:47:55.780 I mean, every, and it's funny because all of the, uh, uh, I guess anti-establishment

01:48:00.380 personalities know this and will post the emails from, they'll get an email from a journalist

01:48:04.660 being like, hi, we'd like a comment. And they'll be like, screw off. And then they'll tweet it like,

01:48:08.480 no, they will lie. I always try to remind people. And for those that aren't familiar,

01:48:13.000 I'll give you an example. No matter what you say to these people, they will lie. No matter what,

01:48:18.900 I'll give you an example. Let's say you are emailed and asked about Israel Hamas saying,

01:48:24.780 we're wondering what your stance is. And do you condemn the terror attacks? And you will,

01:48:28.220 you'll be like, I'm going to craft the perfect message and say, unequivocally, we denounce

01:48:32.080 the killing of civilians. We think what Hamas did was an act of terror. And we are upset to see

01:48:37.240 these things happen. We hope that peace can be attained. And we're, we're, we're concerned even

01:48:41.660 with, with Israel's responses. Let's all work together. You'll give them that quote. If they

01:48:45.760 can't run it, what they'll do is in, they'll say, we reached out to Dinesh for comment and he

01:48:50.080 responded with fear and agitation. Clearly it felt that he supported terrorism. They just won't run

01:48:55.400 your quote. They'll, and then, and then when you say, Hey, that's not true, but it's my opinion and

01:49:00.200 you can't do anything about it. So now, now this is a very key point, I think, because it means that we

01:49:05.420 need to have institutions that don't depend on them. So when I was an author, for example,

01:49:10.720 writing books, I do a book tour and I would gleefully give an interview to the New York

01:49:15.920 Times, knowing that they're out to stab me in the back because I'm an author. They're a huge,

01:49:21.420 they've got a huge outlet. We don't have comparable outlets. The great power, and referred earlier to

01:49:26.500 Jesse Helms, the great thing about Jesse Helms is he realized I can get reelected and I don't need

01:49:31.920 the Raleigh News and Observer. I don't need a single of these outlets. I don't have to pander

01:49:36.560 to them at all. So we have to build those kinds of things. I've been trying to build a film company

01:49:41.860 based on that. I've got people, I've got an email list of a million people. I got lots of people to

01:49:46.980 share my content. I don't have to return the New York Times this phone call because I've created and

01:49:53.100 cultivated my own audience. So we need to work harder at doing that in a lot of different spheres.

01:49:58.020 And I know a lot of people who will say, I will only take your questions via email,

01:50:02.120 and then I'm going to respond to you via email, and then I'm going to independently publish my

01:50:06.960 exact responses in the questions that you sent me. That's what I do. Give one sentence response

01:50:11.680 and never, I'll give you one funny example of this. What an idiot that guy was. Jake Sherman,

01:50:19.220 is he the one who wrote the book about Ailes? Could you Google that for me? So anyway, whoever it was

01:50:24.860 who was writing the book about Ailes kept, he knew everybody, every journalist I knew in New York,

01:50:29.360 and they all keep saying, will you talk to him? Will you talk to him? Will you talk to him? And I

01:50:32.780 kept saying, oh, absolutely. And he'd email me and he kept insisting that I call him. No way was I

01:50:40.440 calling him. So I kept emailing back saying, sure, what's your question? And by the way, I knew nothing

01:50:45.300 about Ailes. I was a guest. I wasn't a host. Yeah. And the other thing is your-

01:50:49.160 Gabe Sherman, I think it is. Gabriel Sherman. Okay, Gabe Sherman. And then, so never talk to him

01:50:54.180 because he wouldn't ask me a question by email or text. But the funniest thing was his book came out

01:51:00.560 right when the Roger Ailes scandal was breaking, and he knew nothing about it. I mean, if that doesn't

01:51:07.620 end a journalism career, and it didn't, it didn't. Well, the other thing you do is if you're being,

01:51:13.660 you're doing a video interview, you video it too. Yeah, right. And that way you've got the context,

01:51:19.680 you've got, they put this out. Well, I guess this is what actually happened. Somebody just did that.

01:51:23.300 Who did that? I can't remember. I mean, I think- Remember somebody doing that, like Matt Gaetz

01:51:28.400 or something? Somebody just did that. I know people who this is like their standard of practice. You

01:51:32.520 cannot be alone, especially maybe with any journalist. And I say that as a pseudo journalist

01:51:36.720 here on TimCast, but any left-wing journalist, you have to just be prepared to come with your own

01:51:42.740 facts later. I mean, it is like a Mike Pence rule with journalism, right? Like, we're not going to

01:51:47.440 lunch alone, so you can misquote me. And I think that is sad, because obviously we would like to

01:51:52.660 have objective journalism that represents both sides. It's obviously a lost fight, because we

01:51:57.980 have to then build other institutions that are willing to do that. But I wonder, going into this

01:52:04.200 next year, as we move towards a less traditional publication realm, I mean, it's not just the New York

01:52:10.560 Times that you have to combat, but it's the influencers on Twitter, someone who you can get

01:52:13.720 a quote to first. How do you- I mean, maybe it's good, because we have these other avenues of getting

01:52:19.660 information out, and maybe it's bad, because certain groups of people, independents, left-leaning,

01:52:25.440 like socially left-leaning people, will only ever look to mainstream publications for their

01:52:30.200 information. I don't know what you think about that. Well, I think there are enough Tim Poole's out

01:52:33.960 there that it filters up to them. One of my favorite hobbies is, I do read the Trees and

01:52:40.600 Times every day. You have to know what they're saying. But not- what I really find fun is reading

01:52:46.120 the comments. And, well, if you care anything about Trump, it's just going to be Trump-bile,

01:52:53.300 Trump-bile, Trump-bile, Trump-bile. But interestingly, for years, any article on immigration,

01:53:00.200 and even before the latest migrant crisis, it has been a very unpopular issue, even with New York

01:53:07.980 Times readers. But it's interesting to see- but the merit stuff, I think, is not popular. I mean,

01:53:15.420 this is what I'm saying about how we are sitting pretty with issues that are, I say, 80-20 popular.

01:53:23.580 And those are the issues you want to run on. Those are the issues you want candidates talking about.

01:53:28.840 You want- it should be the merit stuff, the anti-white racism. You don't have to put it that

01:53:33.100 way. You can talk about it as merit. Immigration, crime. They're going to notice how much groceries

01:53:39.200 are, whether we tell them or not. But you can throw that one in. And these are- and the transgender

01:53:44.760 stuff. These are 80-20 issues. If we could just get Republicans to talk about nothing else,

01:53:50.580 no matter what they are asked, come back to one of those four issues.

01:53:53.160 Joe Biden's favorability and job approval dropped below 50% after the failure in Afghanistan.

01:53:59.500 Surprisingly, a lot of Americans really cared about foreign policy, which was shocking to me

01:54:03.620 that it was such a disaster. And I think it had to do with dead Americans. It had to do with-

01:54:07.840 It looks bad.

01:54:08.480 Refugee crisis. And the story behind what happened was just shockingly appalling.

01:54:14.520 Yeah. So that's the way you talk about foreign policy, the resurfacing of those weapons now with

01:54:20.440 Hamas. If you can- and this is where conservative investigative journalism comes into play, because

01:54:26.080 you know that the left is not going to be checking that one out. But if you can identify weaponry,

01:54:31.560 rifles, bombs, rockets imported from Afghanistan through the jihadi network, that would be a very

01:54:38.060 big story.

01:54:38.560 So I don't want to say this is confirmed. There's just rumors circulating that there's

01:54:43.320 videos of some of the jihadis have M4s. I don't know enough about it, but the argument basically

01:54:48.020 being like, these are not your typical weapons you see from like Russian era or Mujahideen or

01:54:51.680 whatever. Like these, these look like they may have come from the US. Well, my point was simply

01:54:54.940 what the left has done and what they're doing today with this global day of jihad, someone,

01:55:00.160 there's a bunch of news coming out right now about Hannah Clare shared Qatar saying they're going

01:55:04.500 to cut off oil or whatever.

01:55:05.920 If the bombing doesn't stop.

01:55:06.800 If the bombing doesn't stop. But I saw a photo of someone, a protester holding up a sign saying

01:55:11.160 there is only one solution. That image just needs to be run by every Republican across the board

01:55:16.380 and says, please. And they don't need to come out and be like the left are terrorists.

01:55:19.940 You get a Republican on camera saying to my constituents, please, please just do not support

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01:56:55.920 This calling for one solution against Israel, whatever you think, we cannot support this.

01:57:02.500 Thank you and have a nice day.

01:57:03.400 Well, also, I think it's very important right now for concern. I mean, they are doing it,

01:57:07.320 but to make sure that this connection between BLM and the left and progressive movement in this

01:57:14.040 country and Hamas, they can't be allowed to brush this under the rug.

01:57:18.560 Every ad right now for everyone running for office should be just showing the far left saying,

01:57:24.540 chanting, there is only one solution. And then just a heartfelt, please don't support them.

01:57:29.520 Please don't.

01:57:29.800 I mean, there are, I've seen swastika images at these protests. You've also, there was,

01:57:34.020 I don't know if that was in this country, but the people chanting gas the Jews. So,

01:57:38.360 I mean, imagine having this stuff on video at your disposal for somebody.

01:57:42.980 And they lie. There was a video Andy Ngo posted, a pro-Palestinian rally celebrating what was going

01:57:47.320 on. And the speaker says, at pro-Palestine rallies, we say free, free Palestine. At white

01:57:53.540 supremacist rallies, they say, kill Arabs. That's not a chant used by anybody. No one's saying that.

01:57:58.400 And then he says, this is hilarious. He says, at leftist protests, you see Palestinian flags. At

01:58:03.440 white supremacist rallies, you see Israeli flags. Then the ADL comes out and tweets,

01:58:08.060 white supremacists celebrate attack on Israel. And it's just like, I'm sorry, left. Your narrative

01:58:13.400 is gone. It is nonsensical and makes no sense. At this point, there was a story that came out

01:58:20.680 earlier this week. MSNBC, this is going to surprise you guys. You're in media. MSNBC's ratings went down

01:58:26.420 by 33% as war erupted. That is shocking for anybody who knows anything about cable news.

01:58:32.220 Cable news ratings skyrocket during wartime. MSNBC, and the argument is they decided to show

01:58:38.040 a joint death count of Gaza and Israel, and people stopped watching.

01:58:42.160 Well, also that audience, and I'm a regular MSNBC viewer, and even I can't do it anymore.

01:58:47.960 It's 24-7, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. And the most boring, every little

01:58:54.660 thing in every little case. So I always imagine these, you know, like the long haul COVID liberal

01:59:00.000 women in New York City sitting in their apartments obsessed. And what's going on with Trump now? So

01:59:05.460 think about this. Israel has nothing to do with Trump. I've covered conflict and crisis. I've not

01:59:12.660 covered overt war, but I was in Ukraine right before it became civil war. There's Molotov,

01:59:18.620 there's firebombs. I've been in places. I was in Ferguson getting shot at. I have seen some pretty

01:59:22.700 intense situations. And when the story came out that the former Hamas leader called for a global day

01:59:27.060 of jihad, I felt my heart sank a little bit. I felt a grip in the pit of my stomach, like,

01:59:32.240 oh, crap. Like, this is worrying even to me, right? Knowing what I know. Imagine what those

01:59:36.360 suburban moms are feeling right now when the police put out a notice to their homes saying

01:59:39.500 Hamas is calling for terror and jihad. They're probably worried. My kids are going to school.

01:59:44.540 They're calling the school. Is everything going to be OK? Do I have to worry about this? And then

01:59:47.860 they see BLM saying, we love it. That's the commercial that Republicans need to run.

01:59:52.260 You have the Tufts University Justice for Palestine group calling it creative. They said

01:59:57.840 they're praising their creative solutions. Isn't that crazy?

02:00:00.820 Wait, what's the creative? Oh, they're calling the attack creative?

02:00:04.520 That was the Tufts University quote.

02:00:06.520 This thing has sent a kind of a shiver of delight throughout the whole jihadi world because normally

02:00:15.060 these guys are used to getting their butts kicked by Israel. I mean, Israel, think of all the wars.

02:00:20.460 I mean, eight countries attack Israel. Israel kind of pistol whips them all and then kind of dusts

02:00:25.980 off. And so being able to penetrate Israeli territory, have your way with Israeli homes,

02:00:31.980 you know, this has been kind of a fun fest for these characters. But you're right. I think

02:00:37.000 politically it's... And it's BLM.

02:00:39.040 Suburban moms worried about their kids right now are asking themselves, are my children going to be

02:00:43.840 safe from these Hamas terror attacks? Now, that's not overtly political. That's a fear everyone's

02:00:47.620 going to have. But then when you see the far left and Black Lives Matter celebrating it,

02:00:51.220 they're celebrating your fear and your terror.

02:00:53.080 Yes. And I've watched a lot of these videos. I'm sure you guys have too. What I notice is of the

02:00:58.720 Arabs, let's call them, because they could be Christian, but could be Muslim. They all seem

02:01:07.980 to have... And these are the protests in this country. I'd say 90% of them have a foreign accent.

02:01:14.520 These are immigrants. And of the ones with... At these rallies with pure American accents,

02:01:20.320 it's very, very heavily Black people from the Black Lives Matter movement.

02:01:25.840 Well, this is... We learned... Patrisse Cullors.

02:01:28.160 Yep.

02:01:28.700 She said in 2015, they wanted to end Israel. Like, what does anyone think that means?

02:01:34.440 Yeah.

02:01:34.760 Do they think it just means that they change the name and everyone holds hands under a rainbow? No.

02:01:39.000 That's not what it means.

02:01:39.900 Kate, can you look up... You guys have computers. Look up some of the biggest donors to BLM. I know

02:01:45.400 we had a lot of celebrities. Tons. And are they saying anything? Major corporations poured tons

02:01:51.420 of money into these companies. I think this would be a good time to list some of these.

02:01:54.860 Yeah.

02:01:55.300 It's not just the Hollywood elite.

02:01:56.760 Cisco, E's, Etsy, Grubbubbub. This is like Bank of America. And, you know, the run of the mill,

02:02:01.080 big corporations pouring money into BLM.

02:02:02.940 How about Jeff Bezos?

02:02:04.300 IBM, Microsoft, Niantic, Peloton, Reddit, Shopify, Uber, Comcast, Slack, PayPal, Andreessen Horowitz.

02:02:13.580 Oh, that one's really interesting. Bumble, DocuSign, DoorDash, Match... And this is a website

02:02:19.720 that's praising their support. It's like, look for companies that support BLM.

02:02:22.580 Oh, and Bezos' wife. I don't think Bezos would have done it. He probably gave to historically

02:02:26.940 black colleges. But how about Bezos' wife?

02:02:29.040 I don't know, but this one's shocking. Ben & Jerry's. Ben & Jerry's gave... Yeah,

02:02:33.860 they also made a flavor...

02:02:34.640 Where's their statement? Where's their statement?

02:02:36.320 No, for real. Why would anyone want to be buying Ben & Jerry's when they've overtly supported this?

02:02:41.660 It's crazy. Netflix, Bank of America, man.

02:02:44.360 Oh, I remember Bank of America.

02:02:46.040 You know, for the first time with the Harvard case, when two things happened, one is that

02:02:51.300 there started to be exposés of what these students and these left-wing organizations were doing,

02:02:57.200 corporate guys saying, we want a list of these guys so we don't hire them, you know?

02:03:02.160 Yep.

02:03:02.400 And then I think it was accuracy in media. One of the conservative groups took a bus and put

02:03:07.560 these guys' names on the bus and were driving all over Boston and Harvard Square. And apparently,

02:03:13.600 these people are freaking out and all pulling their names now as signatories. Normally, our side

02:03:19.860 doesn't have the ingenuity or the imagination to pull this kind of thing off. It's always the left.

02:03:24.760 I wish they hadn't done it so quickly. I want to lure more of them into our trap.

02:03:28.980 Before we unlock, do you guys know that swastikas were extremely common in the United States in

02:03:35.380 like the early 1900s?

02:03:36.640 Oh, yeah. Before Hitler, it was a very popular cross.

02:03:39.020 So I went to an antique store, and this is in Austin, and the guy actually had swastika keychains,

02:03:44.780 and a bunch of, and I was kind of shocked by that. I was like, aren't you concerned that like

02:03:48.560 someone's going to come? And he's like, I don't care. I know what these things are.

02:03:51.620 Right. It's an antique store. We're representing what they were. When the Nazis came in,

02:03:56.060 they took the symbol. But I think about what's really interesting in that there was a lot of

02:04:00.360 support for Nazis in the United States before World War II. There were people in the US who

02:04:04.540 were like, hey, we like these ideas. I wonder if what we're seeing now, imagining the basketball

02:04:09.040 courts with Black Lives Matter, the billboards, if there will come a time in 20 or 30 years,

02:04:13.260 or maybe 50, where they look back and like, can you believe they were supporting these anti-Semitic

02:04:18.400 groups? And they didn't. And then what we talk about is after World War II, everyone kind of

02:04:24.000 says like, we started getting rid of the stuff saying it was bad. We don't want to be involved

02:04:27.300 in this. And all of a sudden, everyone just recoiled. I think it was like the Bush family

02:04:32.640 were Nazis like early on before World War II, because it was more common in the United States.

02:04:38.140 Now, I think with what's happening with Hamas, and even after you've got these bank CEOs saying,

02:04:44.120 we're going to blacklist all these Harvard students, there are Harvard students panicking,

02:04:46.740 being like, no, no, no, no. A bunch of college students are doubling down. That Yale professor

02:04:50.360 saying settlers aren't civilians. They're doubling down. They're marching through the streets.

02:04:53.000 I think they're going to spring back on this one. I don't think this one will last.

02:04:57.240 Just a prediction. I don't know. Because, no, the black thing in America, it's always,

02:05:03.040 always going to be, no, we must treat them like children. That's the liberal approach.

02:05:07.800 Yes, but the organization, right? So the swastika wasn't an evil symbol when it started.

02:05:12.420 We're going to change the name, but it's going to be the same nonsense.

02:05:15.180 Sure, sure. My point is, we're going to look back at Black Lives Matter like we do the swastika.

02:05:21.940 We're going to say these groups were evil, terroristic.

02:05:24.660 I hope you're right. I think they're going to weasel out of it. That's just my prediction.

02:05:28.380 I think the one we are going to look back at as if it's Dr. Mengele is the poisoning and mutilating

02:05:34.860 of adolescents.

02:05:36.640 Well, yeah, like lobotomies. I mean, we look at these documents.

02:05:38.880 I think that is going to be like a lobotomy, like Dr. Mengele, but they're going to weasel

02:05:43.280 out the Black Lives Matter.

02:05:45.020 But look.

02:05:46.040 We'll see. I hope you're right.

02:05:48.060 Certainly we can argue the eugenicists change their names, right? They said, oh, we're not

02:05:52.580 for that anymore, but Planned Parenthood still exist overwhelmingly in minority neighborhoods

02:05:55.900 or near them.

02:05:56.640 Because they need it, apparently.

02:05:58.080 But so I think the branding of BLM is this. I can't imagine the recovery of the brand Black

02:06:05.360 Lives Matter.

02:06:06.100 I hope you're right.

02:06:06.960 You already had the corruption scandal. You've already had questions about where all the money

02:06:10.480 went. Donations are already drying up because people are pissed off about this.

02:06:13.320 And now you've got them posting in direct support for overt acts of terror and the killing of

02:06:17.780 children. It's like, dude, if they can recover from killing children, I don't know, man.

02:06:22.100 They've gotten thousands upon thousands more of Black people killed because of Black Lives

02:06:27.740 Matter. You notice that's not one of the reasons they may go under.

02:06:30.720 There is a very famous viral video where two white women are vandalizing a Black neighborhood

02:06:34.740 with young Black women begging them to stop saying, what do you think you're doing?

02:06:37.840 Like, don't worry, we're doing this for you. And they're like, you're destroying our home.

02:06:40.720 Like, get out of here.

02:06:42.180 Wait, explain that video again.

02:06:44.240 There are two white.

02:06:46.000 It's like two white Antifa.

02:06:47.440 It might be it might be dudes.

02:06:48.700 And they're like vandalizing property during a riot in Black Garb.

02:06:52.120 And there are two local Black women.

02:06:53.660 Antifa, got it.

02:06:54.320 Yeah. And there's two Black women being like, what the do you think you're doing?

02:06:57.400 And they're like, we're helping you.

02:06:58.860 And she's like, no, you're not.

02:06:59.700 You're destroying our neighborhood.

02:07:00.780 Get out of here.

02:07:02.140 When I was in Ferguson, that's what I saw.

02:07:04.320 The locals, mostly Black, were like, they linked arms to protect the liquor store that

02:07:09.080 was being looted and vandalized saying, these people are stealing from us.

02:07:12.040 Please help.

02:07:12.820 What did the white leftists write?

02:07:13.980 They wrote, in defense of looting, that the people in Ferguson looting were resisting

02:07:18.340 the machine.

02:07:18.880 I'm like, the locals in the neighborhood were begging for help because their neighbor was being

02:07:22.700 destroyed.

02:07:23.020 And the Black Lives Matter rioters, half of whom are white liberals, were engaging in

02:07:28.020 the destruction of this neighborhood.

02:07:29.140 Well, the white liberals think they know better.

02:07:30.400 I mean, it's exactly Anne's point from earlier.

02:07:31.980 There's an infantilization.

02:07:33.160 We know that this is going to help you.

02:07:34.500 So even though you are saying you're hurting my actual property, you don't understand.

02:07:38.920 And I mean, I just don't understand how if you were a black voter in America, you can

02:07:43.240 look at the past four years and say, this has been good for me, right?

02:07:47.900 And I wonder how that will play out in 2024.

02:07:50.500 It is remarkable when you look at the polls.

02:07:51.980 Yeah, I mean, the genius of the left is to destroy a city and yet nevertheless be able

02:07:58.600 to count on that city, putting Democrats, and in some cases, Chicago being a classic

02:08:03.620 example, it's the far left Democrat that gets elected the next round.

02:08:08.260 It's like, wow, you're not tired of getting kicked in the face?

02:08:10.840 You want some more?

02:08:11.880 Did you guys look?

02:08:12.880 I actually tracked this when the Chicago election happened.

02:08:15.060 Did you look at the breakdown of the city by who they voted for?

02:08:19.220 Almost 100% except for one area.

02:08:24.120 The neighborhoods voted based on race.

02:08:26.300 That's it.

02:08:27.140 The Latino neighborhoods voted for Latino.

02:08:28.780 The white neighborhoods voted for the white guy.

02:08:30.160 The black neighborhoods voted for the black candidate.

02:08:31.540 And when you look at the black neighborhoods in Chicago, the top three candidates among their

02:08:36.800 choices, all black.

02:08:38.340 When you look at the white neighborhood, it's like white and then like white and then like

02:08:42.140 Hispanic and then black.

02:08:43.440 The one neighborhood that was different was the the northern part of the city, which is

02:08:48.600 more left liberal, like woke.

02:08:50.640 And this was a majority white area that voted for the far leftist, Brandon Johnson.

02:08:55.820 What I found fascinating is that was basically the deciding factor that the woke people who

02:09:01.560 are white, white liberals voted in.

02:09:03.640 But it was it was fascinating to me.

02:09:04.860 It's unfortunate that you look at a city like Chicago, which is very racially segregated and

02:09:10.320 mostly by choice.

02:09:11.040 The people choose to live in these areas based on race and they only vote based on race.

02:09:14.800 Not all of them, but like overwhelmingly, that's clearly in the in the in the in the electoral

02:09:19.480 election map.

02:09:20.360 Tim, it's our greatest strength.

02:09:22.880 You know, I mean, you can argue about I'm being sarcastic.

02:09:27.020 No, no, I understand.

02:09:27.800 I'm saying it's it's these neighborhoods aren't diverse, right?

02:09:31.300 No, it isn't diversity.

02:09:32.940 It's what I think Dinesh was saying.

02:09:35.180 It's all these little ethnic ghettos and it's getting worse and worse and balkanization.

02:09:39.660 And I mean, we're importing these ethnic haters.

02:09:42.720 I love when we see these videos of two two groups from a country.

02:09:46.800 I've barely heard of the country.

02:09:49.620 I certainly haven't heard of the two groups that hate one another and they're fighting.

02:09:53.940 Why are we importing these ethnic conflicts?

02:09:56.820 This isn't our problem.

02:09:58.260 You know, what I find interesting about is the cities is that it looks like there are

02:10:01.720 two distinct leftist models of destroying a city.

02:10:06.000 They're not the same.

02:10:07.100 There's the Chicago model and there's the San Francisco model.

02:10:10.580 Oh, yes.

02:10:11.100 Now, in the San Francisco model, the murder rate in the city, not that high.

02:10:15.100 But the however, exactly.

02:10:17.620 So what I'm getting at is you can't go anywhere in San Francisco without some homeless guy,

02:10:22.720 you know, giving you the finger or taking your chicken wing off your plate.

02:10:25.900 It's a low level harassment, but it's throughout the city.

02:10:29.260 Now, go to Chicago and it's very different.

02:10:31.620 All the violence is in one area.

02:10:33.600 It's concentrated.

02:10:34.700 So there are other parts of the city that are completely fine.

02:10:36.800 But if you go into this area, gunshots, run for your life.

02:10:41.520 And so it's almost like the left has accommodated to both.

02:10:45.600 In Chicago, they accommodate by saying, listen, I don't live there.

02:10:48.740 That's not my neighborhood.

02:10:49.900 I'm not going to get shot.

02:10:50.960 So I'm perfectly safe where I am.

02:10:52.760 And I can even vote for this kind of stuff because that'll make me cool.

02:10:56.000 In San Francisco, they go, well, I'm not going to get killed.

02:10:59.140 Yeah, some homeless guy is going to be shouting at me.

02:11:01.660 And he's obviously...

02:11:02.480 He might steal my car.

02:11:02.980 He might steal my car.

02:11:03.960 He's obviously nuts, but my compassion is not going to cost me that much.

02:11:09.280 So they're able to take the stance in both places, but on a different rationale.

02:11:14.240 And both cities get wrecked in the process.

02:11:16.300 And both cities get wrecked.

02:11:17.260 I think this is true of immigration, too.

02:11:18.880 I was just reading the study that Louisiana is...

02:11:22.200 So of the homes in Louisiana where English isn't the first language, it used to be French.

02:11:25.900 French was the dominant language.

02:11:26.900 And obviously, there's a historical aspect to this.

02:11:29.140 And it's a unique culture to Louisiana, which we lose Cajun.

02:11:33.060 And all these other things.

02:11:34.600 And now, the second most common language spoken in the home outside of English is Spanish.

02:11:38.560 So we're about to lose an entirely unique American culture because we did not, number one, maintain it.

02:11:44.760 We did not say, hey, this is cool and interesting.

02:11:46.680 You guys have this.

02:11:47.880 And we also allowed Louisiana, which is close to the border, close to Mexico, to be affected by our devastating immigration.

02:11:54.660 So we are letting all of these left policies, both apathy within the two cities, these justifications for allowing violence or homelessness or crime, as well as not letting any of these cities protect their unique cultural heritage.

02:12:07.620 And to Tim's point, it's not diverse.

02:12:09.220 It's all Hispanic.

02:12:10.720 Well, it's segregated.

02:12:11.780 No, but the country isn't, what Hannah was saying is Louisiana, very French influence, the French food, the languages.

02:12:20.560 And it doesn't exist outside of Louisiana.

02:12:22.220 It does not.

02:12:23.100 This is unique not only to the U.S., but to Louisiana.

02:12:25.440 And we're about to let it die.

02:12:26.340 And we had all these little areas that were really part of historic America.

02:12:30.820 Now, it's all going to be overwhelmed Hispanic.

02:12:34.080 We're homogenizing our culture.

02:12:35.580 We're just about getting ready to wrap up, so we'll do final thoughts.

02:12:38.080 And the last thing I want to mention on this topic before we close out is if you look at the southern border, like in Texas, where many people live, they're flying Mexican flags.

02:12:49.780 So you wonder about the mass influx of non-citizens on the southern border, and then the people acquiring this property are flying the flag of the neighboring nation.

02:12:58.060 It makes you wonder about the jurisdiction of this property.

02:13:00.660 But final thoughts, you guys, as we wrap up.

02:13:03.980 Anne?

02:13:04.380 Anne, what will you be doing to celebrate the Global Day of Jihad?

02:13:10.060 Well, hiring security and staying downstairs?

02:13:13.360 I will be traveling.

02:13:14.580 So let me just say I totally feel for the Palestinians.

02:13:17.820 Is that enough?

02:13:18.720 Is that good?

02:13:19.340 No, actually, the only thing I want to say is what I keep not saying.

02:13:23.320 AnneCoulter.substack.com.

02:13:25.420 I have columns.

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02:13:27.900 A few with Heather McDonald, whom I've mentioned here.

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02:13:35.060 And I just send out jokes because I got sick of being shadow banned on Twitter.

02:13:39.600 So it's a lot of fun, and most of it's free.

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02:14:11.400 I guess so.

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02:14:17.000 Right.

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02:14:42.040 Awesome.

02:14:42.520 Yeah, I'll definitely check it out.

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The Culture War - Tim Pool - October 13, 2023

The Culture War #33 - Global Day Of Jihad, AI Warfare w⧸Ann Coulter & Dinesh D'Souza

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