The Culture War - Tim Pool - The Culture War #39 - Wokeness In Skateboarding, Males Competing In Women's Sports

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00:00:58.140 Welcome to this special pre-recorded episode of the Culture War podcast.

00:01:03.560 Everybody is out having fun Thanksgiving with the family, so we recorded this one early for you.

00:01:07.840 But we got some interesting stuff to talk about.

00:01:09.580 In the Culture War, a couple big issues revolve around popular culture,

00:01:14.480 prominent individuals who are not speaking up or allowing culture to be taken over by illiberal

00:01:20.780 forces and people who are not a part of your culture.

00:01:25.020 And, of course, I'm talking about skateboarding specifically.

00:01:27.000 And we also, of course, have the issue of male athletes competing in female sports.

00:01:30.820 So we've got a lot to talk about as it pertains to skateboarding.

00:01:34.420 Most of you know I've been skateboarding, man, most of my life since I was late 13 years old.

00:01:39.920 That's when I started.

00:01:41.760 Traveled around the country skating to a certain degree.

00:01:44.160 Always skateboarding, even to this day, filming a lot of skate videos.

00:01:46.500 And one of the things that I noticed that was particularly interesting over the past several

00:01:50.100 years is the wokeification of skateboarding.

00:01:52.640 And I don't know how this happens.

00:01:53.900 You end up seeing ads, right?

00:01:56.120 And so for those that don't skate, just put this in the context of any other major sport.

00:02:00.840 You end up with advertisements promoting brands where they're not doing any kind of athletic

00:02:05.940 feat.

00:02:07.260 Individuals who are doing what we would describe as rudimentary or basic tricks.

00:02:11.600 But because the advertisement fits some kind of woke diversity quota, they think that's

00:02:16.920 going to sell product.

00:02:18.100 But then you end up with these weird circumstances where there's no energy because what people

00:02:24.840 want in competitive sports, they want to see the boundaries be pushed.

00:02:28.860 They want to see something new and creative.

00:02:30.660 But with the, I guess, the diversity version of skateboarding, it's can we all hold hands

00:02:35.340 and have fun and smile because we're all different?

00:02:37.300 And you end up with people being praised not for skill or creativity, but for their

00:02:41.560 identity.

00:02:43.140 Now, I don't know.

00:02:43.760 I don't know how that persists, but we're certainly more fans of, hey, man, do what

00:02:46.840 you want.

00:02:47.280 Skateboarding can be punk rock.

00:02:48.280 You can be whoever you want.

00:02:49.520 But we like doing tricks.

00:02:50.560 We like seeing good skateboarding stuff.

00:02:51.760 So we're going to talk about that.

00:02:52.880 And we got a bunch of really awesome people.

00:02:54.380 So I'll just throw it to you guys to introduce yourselves.

00:02:56.900 First, we got this guy over here who looks like some kind of weird rock star.

00:03:00.960 I am Richie Jackson, and I am of the controversial opinion that we can all get along.

00:03:06.320 That is very controversial because I'm not so sure.

00:03:09.220 Well, let's see how we go.

00:03:10.240 So, yeah, to add to that, I'm only half joking.

00:03:13.940 I was having a conversation with a friend last night, and it's like my friend from the

00:03:18.560 city who I grew up with, it's just I don't see how we get along.

00:03:23.140 No, that's a fair.

00:03:23.600 This is a fair point because we are still friends.

00:03:25.140 But man, our moral lines are so different.

00:03:27.040 But we'll talk about that.

00:03:28.280 And Richie, who are you?

00:03:29.000 What do you do?

00:03:29.800 I play the skateboard.

00:03:31.540 It's as simple as that.

00:03:32.400 And you should let your friend know that he is invited to skate here at our indoor facility.

00:03:36.620 Okay.

00:03:38.540 Okay.

00:03:39.020 Richie is actually, for those that aren't familiar or in the skateboarding world, I don't know, a street magician.

00:03:44.800 Let's go with sorcerer.

00:03:45.980 Sorcerer is better.

00:03:47.080 Yes.

00:03:47.480 Sorcerer implies that you have an innate talent and an ability to tap into the magical ether of skateboarding.

00:03:53.020 I'm glad it looks that way on camera.

00:03:54.320 Yeah.

00:03:55.020 So Richie is super well known for, you have these incredibly unique combinations of unique skills and creativity in skateboarding, which has led to a prominent following as a pro skateboarder.

00:04:09.400 Well, I appreciate that very much, man.

00:04:10.800 Thank you.

00:04:11.020 Yeah.

00:04:11.340 And we'll maybe play some clips and we'll talk about this.

00:04:14.420 But just real quick for those that are wondering how you came to be here.

00:04:18.840 Richie, how did you come to be here?

00:04:20.380 I was provided an excellent opportunity.

00:04:22.360 Tim has provided a, well, we can't say too much about it.

00:04:27.400 We have a mutual friend.

00:04:29.040 This is true.

00:04:30.240 Miss Southern.

00:04:30.920 Yes, it was Miss Southern that kind of hooked it all up. 1.00

00:04:33.460 Lauren Southern was like, I know this pro skater guy, Richie Jackson.

00:04:36.220 I was like, are you kidding?

00:04:37.380 You know Richie Jackson?

00:04:38.500 And she was like, yeah, I'll connect you guys.

00:04:40.460 And then you posted a photo with her and everyone got mad at you.

00:04:42.880 Well, no, the next step was she showed me the facility that you have under construction.

00:04:45.880 And I'm not sure how much we can say about it.

00:04:47.820 Say whatever you want.

00:04:48.500 Well, think the betterics.

00:04:50.440 We just designed an indoor and outdoor park.

00:04:56.220 Super esoteric.

00:04:57.620 The average person's like, I have no idea what he just said.

00:05:00.000 Right.

00:05:00.380 So there's a big skate park.

00:05:01.600 The biggest, I think, most prominent media outlet for skateboarding is The Barracks.

00:05:06.260 At one time.

00:05:07.580 Sure, sure.

00:05:08.320 I mean, I think it still is.

00:05:09.320 I think it still is.

00:05:09.940 But we are working on a major facility.

00:05:12.380 We've talked about it quite a bit.

00:05:13.520 An indoor and outdoor facility.

00:05:14.920 Massive 40 foot building.

00:05:16.420 So Lauren Southern introduced us.

00:05:19.140 And Richie is a man who likes to skateboard.

00:05:21.520 And there were interesting things that happened around this pertaining to, you know, woke backlash.

00:05:26.700 And I think it's mostly overhyped, mostly overblown.

00:05:29.540 And that's the big thing I want to get to today.

00:05:30.780 So we'll get into all that.

00:05:32.460 That leads us perfectly into our other guests today.

00:05:35.200 That's right.

00:05:35.560 Taylor Silverman.

00:05:36.180 What's up, guys?

00:05:37.340 I'm Taylor Silverman.

00:05:38.880 I've been out here at TimCast ever since I accidentally went viral on the internet last year.

00:05:45.200 Talking about placing second in a women's skate contest to a male skateboarder.

00:05:50.220 Tim saw the story, gave me a call, invited me out.

00:05:53.040 At the time, I had no idea that he wanted me to come and stay.

00:05:56.380 But I came out as a guest and I never left.

00:05:58.600 Well, so yeah.

00:05:59.580 And that story is when Taylor competed in, it was multiple contests.

00:06:04.040 Yeah, it happened three different times.

00:06:06.300 And it was the third time that I'd finally had enough.

00:06:08.680 And I was like, I got to say something about this.

00:06:11.300 Taylor would have won first place in all of them or one of them or how many?

00:06:15.840 In two of them.

00:06:17.160 And then the first time it happened was like way back in 2018.

00:06:22.180 And at that time, like that was one of the first times I'd traveled out of the state to go compete in a contest.

00:06:27.760 And I didn't even make it through the qualifier.

00:06:30.540 And I think that the guy didn't make it through the qualifier either.

00:06:34.460 So that was like my first time seeing it and it actually, you know, happening right in front of me.

00:06:40.300 I'd heard about it happening in MMA, but that was about the only context I'd seen of that kind of stuff. 0.58

00:06:46.740 So I thought, well, people are going to realize this is ridiculous.

00:06:49.680 It's not going to continue.

00:06:51.000 And then a couple of years later, I placed second in a contest to male skateboarder.

00:06:55.960 You lost like, I think it was like $1,500.

00:06:59.100 That was in the third contest.

00:07:00.900 Yeah, it was a Red Bull contest.

00:07:02.460 They did like a best in the Midwest circuit where you had to qualify in one of the qualifying contests.

00:07:10.520 So I went to one out in Detroit, Michigan because I was living in Kalamazoo at the time.

00:07:14.460 Placed first, got invited to these finals and had no idea until I got there that that was what was going to unfold that day.

00:07:21.120 So I had to like decide an hour before what I'm going to do.

00:07:25.320 And I was like, I can walk away, leave completely empty handed after spending money out of my own pocket to even be there.

00:07:33.860 Or I can compete for second place today and try to talk to him about it afterwards.

00:07:38.620 That's crazy.

00:07:39.100 So what we did was we wrote a check for the difference of what you were supposed to have won as the first place female contestant.

00:07:44.920 Yeah.

00:07:45.160 And then we made a fake check and handed it to you on camera.

00:07:47.220 Yeah.

00:07:47.420 So we also have a professional skate filmer here with us, the skate rat himself from star of one episode of Judge Joe Brown.

00:07:57.140 Would you like to introduce yourself, sir?

00:07:59.080 Dennis Williford, Chum Media.

00:08:01.420 Get a little closer to that mic.

00:08:03.340 Dennis Williford, Chum Media, Multimedia Productions.

00:08:07.240 You've had a bunch of, so you've filmed skateboarding professionally.

00:08:10.620 Yeah.

00:08:10.820 I mean, I lived in New York for the better part of 10 years.

00:08:13.560 You've got all kinds of stuff.

00:08:14.800 You've got a bunch of clips and pro videos.

00:08:16.580 So you've been entrenched in this for a while.

00:08:19.760 And I think it'll be interesting to see your perspective as kind of a, you know, you've got Richie, who is this very forward-facing individual with a lot of pressure from like a massive fan base.

00:08:30.200 Well, I got to touch on that point.

00:08:33.400 As somebody who's always been pro-LGBTQ and aligned with that community, I was quite shocked at the immediate backlash for a crime as simple as being seen with Miss Silverman.

00:08:44.540 I took a picture with Taylor, which sparked a massive backlash.

00:08:49.080 And I was like, well, what was I supposed to do? 0.99

00:08:50.680 Kick her in the shins and walk away? 0.99

00:08:52.040 She asked me for a picture. 1.00

00:08:53.020 I warned you.

00:08:53.440 You did warn me.

00:08:54.540 I told you they'll come after you.

00:08:56.100 But it just seemed crazy to me that like all my years of support and alignment meant nothing with one picture.

00:09:00.900 I was told to issue an apology for being seen with you.

00:09:03.400 Wow.

00:09:03.760 So that's where I went.

00:09:04.940 No, I know how this works.

00:09:06.360 No, I know how this works.

00:09:07.900 You do the public apology.

00:09:09.020 They don't accept it.

00:09:09.960 And then they just tread on you more.

00:09:11.380 So I was like, eh, I'm going to go see Tim Pool.

00:09:14.060 They tread on you.

00:09:15.600 So here's a funny thing about that.

00:09:19.060 Richie Jackson, how many followers do you have on Instagram?

00:09:21.720 I think 305k.

00:09:23.500 And you go to a skate park.

00:09:25.200 And aside from, I mean, we can look at your clothes and everyone's like, okay, this, this, when, when we're at a bar, people walk up to Richie and they're like, are you a rock star?

00:09:33.040 Like, you must be famous because of the way you've dressed.

00:09:35.600 But you have people who come up to you and they're excited to meet you.

00:09:38.900 When you meet these individuals, do you say, hold on there a minute, sir.

00:09:41.880 Can you explain to me your entire political background?

00:09:44.800 No.

00:09:44.980 And here's the other thing.

00:09:45.700 I've never had, not once in my life, has anybody come up and had a negative interaction with me?

00:09:50.180 Not once.

00:09:50.780 Even after all this?

00:09:51.940 Even after all this, not once.

00:09:52.780 Same here.

00:09:53.380 Yeah.

00:09:53.800 All the negativity has been online.

00:09:55.460 Nobody's ever said anything to my face.

00:09:57.060 That seems to be how it works.

00:09:58.120 I don't think any of these people are real, to be honest.

00:10:00.180 Like, I know that some of them are real, but this is the crazy thing, right?

00:10:03.940 So you have someone come and say, oh, wow, you're Richie Jackson.

00:10:07.520 You're a pro skateboarder.

00:10:08.500 Can I get a picture with you?

00:10:09.660 You say, sure.

00:10:10.640 Next thing you know, they're like, why didn't you know that the person you took a picture with was persona non grata?

00:10:16.060 I'm 100% done with this guilt by association stuff.

00:10:18.200 I just can't do it anymore.

00:10:20.120 People are who they are.

00:10:21.060 They think what they think.

00:10:21.840 And they're allowed to.

00:10:23.260 And that's the end of the story.

00:10:25.180 Yeah.

00:10:25.540 Also, I think you can be supportive of, like, the LGBT community without thinking that what's happening in women's sports is okay.

00:10:36.200 I mean.

00:10:36.840 I think a lot of people are.

00:10:38.060 Not only do I not have to say anything, I don't even have to think anything.

00:10:40.860 You don't.

00:10:43.360 But I'm wondering if, like, what are the political or what are the career ramifications, I guess?

00:10:50.220 Everyone's kind of worried that.

00:10:51.880 Let me slow down.

00:10:52.600 I'll put it this way.

00:10:53.580 There's a lot of people who, you know, I tell the story quite a bit, but it happened again.

00:10:58.540 I'm hanging out in Reston, Virginia, which is a suburb of D.C.

00:11:02.580 It is.

00:11:03.580 It's Loudoun County.

00:11:04.500 I'm pretty sure it's Loudoun County.

00:11:05.780 And this is where all the big fighting in the schools is happening about males using female bathrooms or whatever.

00:11:10.880 And I get a guy come up to me saying, like, hey, you're probably not going to hear this from anybody in Reston, but I'm a big fan.

00:11:15.480 And I was like, you're, like, the fourth guy to walk up to me and say that to me.

00:11:18.180 I see it all the time.

00:11:19.140 Yeah.

00:11:19.380 Just the other day, same thing happened.

00:11:21.380 And even people who are working in the area at the restaurants we're going to, they're just like, oh, yeah, I watch your stuff, man.

00:11:25.720 It's really great.

00:11:26.300 And so I'm just like, I think people, I think there's a boogeyman that doesn't exist.

00:11:30.880 Exactly.

00:11:31.320 There 100% is.

00:11:32.080 And we should talk about the Martinsburg DIY scenario because the boogeyman there was allegedly you.

00:11:36.680 So there were kids talking, saying, not only did Tim buy the park, he's thinking about destroying it.

00:11:42.180 I spoke to somebody who thought that you were going to go in and bulldoze it.

00:11:45.100 Now, if that's not a boogeyman, I don't know what is.

00:11:47.100 Right.

00:11:47.280 So there are a lot of people who are prominent musicians, celebrities, or just regular people who work in an office.

00:11:53.200 And they believe that if they say something, they're going to get fired.

00:11:56.260 They're going to get in trouble.

00:11:57.440 They're going to lose money.

00:11:58.600 They're going to get ostracized.

00:11:59.540 I think that's somewhat true, but I think it's mostly a boogeyman.

00:12:03.200 Yeah.

00:12:03.380 But see, cancel culture is real.

00:12:05.820 They'll kind of gaslight.

00:12:06.540 You want to go, oh, there is no cancel culture.

00:12:08.260 Well, if there isn't, why are people afraid of it?

00:12:10.280 You can lose your job.

00:12:11.320 You can absolutely lose your employment for saying the wrong thing.

00:12:13.860 And I think the majority of people have had enough.

00:12:16.460 You know, I'm a pretty middle of the road guy, but I've certainly had enough.

00:12:19.320 But maybe that's it.

00:12:19.940 Maybe it's in the more recent years, especially with what we're seeing with Bud Light, Target, the marvels.

00:12:27.620 People are just at this point ready to be like, don't know, don't care if it's some kind of woke.

00:12:32.040 I'm not interested.

00:12:33.420 People are fed up.

00:12:34.500 But people, I get why people are scared of the cancel culture stuff.

00:12:38.160 I was terrified to speak up at first.

00:12:40.180 In fact, I waited till I was out of the country to speak up because I was scared that if I did it in America, there'd be people like with pitchforks outside my house.

00:12:48.100 Well, you had people with pitchforks in your comments and that was crazy.

00:12:51.160 And this is another huge component, too, because it's just this is the weirdest.

00:12:55.840 It's the weirdest thing.

00:12:56.700 The people who started attacking you were like, you're a Jew.

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00:14:29.500 Yeah, there were more comments like that than there were about what I was actually saying.

00:14:34.480 And that's not like new.

00:14:36.420 I would get comments or messages like that occasionally.

00:14:38.960 It was just so much of it and so in your face that it couldn't be ignored.

00:14:42.620 And it showed like these people are not about inclusivity.

00:14:47.180 They're not about diversity.

00:14:48.180 They're not about accepting people for who they are.

00:14:50.640 They will come after you for whatever they think is the worst thing that they can do, even if it is like blatantly anti-Semitic or racist or whatever it may be.

00:14:59.040 And show their true colors just because they want to scare you.

00:15:03.340 They want to shut you up.

00:15:04.560 They want to make you feel like you're canceled, essentially.

00:15:08.260 I did find that unusual that your alleged transphobia was a green light for anti-Semitism.

00:15:12.200 Yeah.

00:15:12.600 They're like, off we go.

00:15:13.380 We can do that now.

00:15:14.060 And I don't want to I don't want to I want to be careful.

00:15:16.860 I understand like Israel-Palestine.

00:15:18.900 What a what a what a crazy issue right now.

00:15:21.060 The left and the right are fighting each other.

00:15:23.120 But no, no, no, no.

00:15:24.480 When she says anti-Semitism, we're like it was the weirdest thing for me to look at. 0.93

00:15:28.820 I'm like, I could understand if leftists were going to Taylor's comments and being like, you're a bigot, you're a transphobe.

00:15:33.440 But I go to the comments and it's just a bunch of heavy race slurs about being Jewish. 0.70

00:15:37.700 And I'm like, what does this have to do with anything?

00:15:40.660 I think it indicates that, you know, underneath it all, they might just be bullies that think they've found a route in which they can get away with it.

00:15:47.360 Yeah.

00:15:48.400 Why?

00:15:50.100 You know, it really it really bums me out.

00:15:52.700 Skateboarding is supposed to be punk rock.

00:15:55.200 And I remember when I was a man, I'm like 14 or 15.

00:15:58.780 I watched this interview.

00:15:59.700 I think it was an on skate skate magazine video.

00:16:02.860 So for those that don't know, but we got we got it.

00:16:04.500 We got to talk.

00:16:04.900 We got to break down the esoteric nature that is skateboarding for many of you.

00:16:07.320 But there used to be VHS like video magazines you'd get every month.

00:16:12.640 So I think 411 for the most part was like it.

00:16:15.200 But then there were specials like I think on was one of them.

00:16:18.160 And then companies would release periodic tapes that you could order and then you'd watch people skate.

00:16:23.280 And I remember watching one where this dude's like skateboarding so great because when I go out there, you know, there's a there's a there's a Mexican guy.

00:16:29.340 There's an Asian guy.

00:16:30.020 There's a black dude.

00:16:30.920 We're all hanging out. 0.88

00:16:32.280 We don't care about people's race.

00:16:33.540 We all get along.

00:16:34.540 It's true.

00:16:34.900 We all ride together.

00:16:35.860 And nowadays, it's just like it used to be that way.

00:16:39.460 Yeah.

00:16:39.760 Now you've got like I'm just I'm sorry, man.

00:16:43.240 Look, I watch this video probably 10 years ago of an Israeli and a Palestinian skateboarder, a guy from Palestine, from Gaza, who comes to the United States, a guy from Israel comes to the United States.

00:16:54.940 And they were skating a skate park together.

00:16:56.320 And the whole point of it was that outside of that context, they were friends.

00:17:00.540 They didn't want to fight.

00:17:01.960 They wanted to skate together.

00:17:03.000 Skateboarding is the commonality.

00:17:03.920 I think it's the same thing as like what we're talking about before with the boogeyman and it being online in real life.

00:17:10.860 I don't have an issue with anybody at the skate park.

00:17:13.540 I don't see anybody like excluding anyone.

00:17:17.560 It's online that you see that stuff being pushed.

00:17:19.900 But then it manifests in the real world.

00:17:22.660 People say a little bit.

00:17:23.800 They say Twitter is not real life.

00:17:25.220 And I used to agree with that until somehow it became real life.

00:17:30.560 You know, it's it's it's it's crazy.

00:17:33.400 People let's let's talk about, you know, what happened in Washington, D.C.

00:17:38.320 So a couple of things happened.

00:17:40.360 First, we there was a pro skateboarder who was in town and in his cruise with him.

00:17:46.800 And I went to Washington.

00:17:49.100 Was it Freedom Plaza in Washington, D.C.?

00:17:51.380 Yeah.

00:17:51.720 You texted me that morning at like seven thirty.

00:17:54.080 Like, want to go skate?

00:17:55.540 Yeah.

00:17:55.800 We were going to D.C.

00:17:56.560 Because like I was like, not right now.

00:17:58.560 I'm sleeping.

00:17:59.000 Yeah.

00:17:59.800 And I see this guy that I've I passively know.

00:18:04.300 Everybody knows his pro skateboarder who was there.

00:18:05.960 I don't want to.

00:18:06.460 I'm not going to.

00:18:07.020 I want to culminate as his own private business.

00:18:08.760 But he's a cool dude.

00:18:09.340 He's chill.

00:18:09.740 He's like, I don't care.

00:18:10.820 And there's another guy there who I who I know pass an acquaintance.

00:18:14.540 And so I'm like talking to him and I'm like, he's hanging out with this pro.

00:18:17.600 This caused this weird backlash in the skate community.

00:18:23.280 Supposedly, where they were like, these people are friends with Tim Poole.

00:18:27.280 He's a bigot, blah, blah, blah.

00:18:28.700 They started threatening and harassing people.

00:18:30.860 People were like, I think I don't want to get too much into it, but I think some people

00:18:34.680 might have lost their jobs just because I was there.

00:18:37.240 And this is freedom plaza of all places, of all places, a public park.

00:18:41.580 I might add, you know, part of me desperately wants to get just straight into the esoteric

00:18:47.760 nature of all this.

00:18:48.600 So I'm going to try and explain everything because, you know, it's easy if you're a football

00:18:52.880 fan and someone starts talking about all the football players and everything.

00:18:55.360 Skateboarding is a tiny subculture and we forget that.

00:18:59.000 We forget how small it is. 0.98

00:19:00.040 It just seems so idiotic to divide it when it's already this small.

00:19:03.760 But so let's let's let's let's start here and I'll throw it to everybody.

00:19:08.500 And when did you guys start noticing the changes in skateboarding where it went from, dude,

00:19:18.040 punk rockers used to like Sid Vicious wore a swastika.

00:19:20.760 Like here's a dude who was doing something specifically just to make you angry.

00:19:24.780 Did you notice that in Sid and Nancy, they changed the swastika to a hammer and sickle?

00:19:29.260 Wait, what?

00:19:29.760 Yeah.

00:19:30.080 As if that was like not as bad.

00:19:32.260 That's probably every bit as bad.

00:19:33.320 Like in the fictionalized movie?

00:19:34.540 In the fictionalized movie, they changed the swastika.

00:19:36.040 They went, let's dial it down a bit.

00:19:37.580 Hammer and sickle.

00:19:40.220 Wow.

00:19:40.720 Yeah.

00:19:41.440 Yeah.

00:19:42.260 But but the skateboarders used to be super punk rock, super edgy, still posting videos.

00:19:47.240 I really hate these videos, by the way, where people are fighting security guards.

00:19:50.240 I'm like, what are you doing, man?

00:19:51.140 It's not even it's not even about don't fight the security guard like you shouldn't, but you

00:19:55.860 are blowing up the spot.

00:19:57.220 That's what it's called there.

00:19:58.600 So we got we got we're going to break this down and bring you all into the skateboard fold.

00:20:03.120 So actually, can you can you can you pull up this clip, Kellen?

00:20:07.200 So this is a this is a skate spot.

00:20:09.220 And this is a video of Richie Jackson doing a skateboard trick.

00:20:12.680 This this spot, my understanding is it's not made for skateboarding.

00:20:15.980 Correct.

00:20:16.800 That would be correct.

00:20:17.560 This is what is it made for?

00:20:18.760 It's a playground.

00:20:19.300 It's a playground.

00:20:19.960 It was in Brooklyn, right?

00:20:21.560 Where were we in Brooklyn here, Dennis?

00:20:23.320 Crown Heights or Crown Heights.

00:20:25.020 I remember live there.

00:20:26.480 It's near near there.

00:20:27.480 Dennis knows the area.

00:20:28.420 Well, I remember a guy came down.

00:20:29.680 He was kind of sussing us out, whether he's going to beat us up or rob us or not.

00:20:32.260 And he's like, yo, give me a cigarette.

00:20:33.760 And Dennis had to say, gave it to him like you knew that you knew the rules.

00:20:37.320 It's a rough and simple place.

00:20:38.360 All right.

00:20:39.160 So let's let's explain a skate spot.

00:20:41.640 This this place is a playground designed for who knows what skateboarders are like, hey, I can

00:20:47.780 apply my skateboard to the things that are here that are built and make something unique.

00:20:52.400 So if you go to a lot of skateboarders like to go to public buildings where there's handrails

00:20:58.480 going downstairs, jump down the stairs, slide down the railings, all that stuff.

00:21:02.340 If security guards come out and they say you have to stop the appropriate thing skateboarders

00:21:08.220 do bribe, sure.

00:21:11.640 But typically it's, hey, man, one more try.

00:21:14.240 Let me get one more, one more.

00:21:15.880 And the guy security guards usually because they know we can avoid conflict.

00:21:20.540 I'll say, OK, just one more.

00:21:21.420 Then you got to go because if they fight you, then but so then they say, fine, then the person

00:21:25.800 like it's the best when they get the trick on that last try.

00:21:28.280 They know the pressure is on and then they leave and they wave the security guard.

00:21:30.940 And that's the end of it.

00:21:32.140 Blowing up a spot is when people tell the security guard to F off, crash into him, shove

00:21:37.800 him or her and fight him.

00:21:39.300 And there's even an instance where a security guard died and the skater went to prison.

00:21:42.480 Yeah.

00:21:43.120 Yeah.

00:21:43.420 And there's another guy that's brain dead from an altercation in San Francisco.

00:21:47.420 Yeah.

00:21:47.880 Don't do that for all the kids out there.

00:21:50.260 If you're skating a spot, yeah, don't attack the security guard.

00:21:52.840 There's other ways to get around it.

00:21:54.420 Like I said, produce some money and, you know, be a businessman about it.

00:21:58.040 Well, I mean, and I don't want to clarify too.

00:21:59.380 Uh, we were, we were filming a music video.

00:22:01.600 I should say, I will edit that.

00:22:03.640 We're filming a music video yesterday for the, one of the songs that we're doing.

00:22:07.460 And we, we, we were doing the scene where we're getting ice cream.

00:22:11.140 That's like, I don't want to give away too much.

00:22:13.320 But, uh, when we go to the door, the guy walks right as we're walking up the door, he

00:22:17.220 walks up and he puts a closed on it.

00:22:18.880 And I'm like, they're supposed to be open till 10 PM.

00:22:21.060 It was five 40.

00:22:22.360 I'm like, it's not five 40.

00:22:23.680 It's not even a time to close.

00:22:24.720 And I walk up, he opens it like, sorry, man, we're just, we're closing up.

00:22:28.300 And I was like, bro, you're supposed to be open.

00:22:30.340 He's like, I'm the only one working here.

00:22:31.940 And I was like, I will give you money to stay open.

00:22:34.720 And he was like, what?

00:22:35.880 And I was like, I'll give you a hundred bucks.

00:22:37.240 And he was like, how long?

00:22:39.280 And I was like, I don't know.

00:22:40.300 Give me a half an hour.

00:22:40.940 We got to film this thing.

00:22:42.360 That's the thing.

00:22:43.440 The guy said, yes.

00:22:44.680 So in many of the circumstances, it's not a bribe.

00:22:47.460 If you're saying like, I will pay you to rent your facility, to use this facility with your

00:22:52.740 permission, that's quite literally how you do it.

00:22:54.920 Right.

00:22:55.220 Okay.

00:22:55.500 So bribe would be if law enforcement is involved. 0.88

00:22:58.360 A security guard is not law enforcement, right?

00:23:00.320 Right.

00:23:00.640 No, definitely not.

00:23:01.460 So here's my point.

00:23:05.000 This is skateboarding. 0.88

00:23:07.620 There's a brain dead security guard.

00:23:09.440 There are cops who are injured.

00:23:10.600 There are skateboarders in prison over there. 0.99

00:23:12.980 Screw you, man. 0.99

00:23:13.480 I'll do what I want. 0.99

00:23:14.300 But all of a sudden, all of a sudden, we start seeing this emergence of woke skateboarders.

00:23:19.420 Look, I don't care what your politics are, but when they start threatening people, and

00:23:24.540 this is what happens.

00:23:25.760 So after that Washington DC thing goes down where they're attacking this guy, this company

00:23:31.300 and other people in the periphery, I'm like, dude, I went with my girlfriend to DC and we

00:23:34.500 were skating in a public plaza and they started attacking people unrelated to me.

00:23:38.580 I don't work with this guy.

00:23:39.540 I barely know the guy.

00:23:40.600 I talk, but they don't care.

00:23:42.160 They want to terrorize.

00:23:43.740 So then I say, you know what? 0.99

00:23:46.240 F these people.

00:23:47.280 We're going to come down next week and we're going to bring everybody, invite everybody.

00:23:51.700 Guess what happened when we showed up a hundred deep?

00:23:55.020 Nothing.

00:23:55.420 Well, to be fair, you did go very early in the day and none of those guys had gotten up

00:24:00.060 yet because skaters tend to wake up around, oh, I don't know, 3 p.m.

00:24:03.540 I would say fair point, but we were there at like noon and the locals were there and you

00:24:08.740 know what the locals said to me?

00:24:09.940 They fist bumped me.

00:24:10.960 Of course.

00:24:11.720 Yeah.

00:24:12.140 So I'm like, when I was skating there the first time, here's the weird thing.

00:24:15.220 The woke people, they're not good at skateboarding. 0.95

00:24:19.060 They, and I'm not trying to be a dick. 0.99

00:24:21.860 Okay.

00:24:22.100 But I don't, I'm like, how is it happening where we have seen the release of professional

00:24:27.900 athletic advertisements of a person doing, you know, to make, to translate this in layman

00:24:34.080 terms, imagine looking at a, uh, an ad of a top tier pro athlete doing like, um, a, a

00:24:41.840 jumping jack.

00:24:42.860 And you're just like, well, I mean, that's cool.

00:24:45.200 Like if the shot of what it was like, uh, it was like a Steph Curry, you know, shooting

00:24:50.720 from the three point line, you see the ball flying through there.

00:24:52.760 You understand what he's doing.

00:24:53.840 That's good.

00:24:54.500 If it was like LeBron dunking, you'd be like, wow, that's great.

00:24:57.400 Imagine looking at it out of a basketball player and he's doing jumping jacks.

00:25:00.700 So you're saying remove the basketball from the Jordan logo.

00:25:04.080 Take it out.

00:25:05.040 Take it out.

00:25:05.440 These people have no skills.

00:25:06.840 Right.

00:25:06.980 No, but, uh, how does it happen that, you know, the ads we're showing are, are, are typically

00:25:12.640 of something good.

00:25:14.120 It's not always the greatest.

00:25:15.460 There's a combination of things that can make something good style, you know, uh, uh, the

00:25:19.460 obstacle itself.

00:25:20.520 Maybe they're just jumping down a big set of stairs or something, but now we're seeing

00:25:23.760 the emergence of advertising and skateboarding where these companies think, I know what will

00:25:27.500 sell skateboards.

00:25:29.020 Pantyhose. 0.97

00:25:30.280 Pantyhose? 0.72

00:25:30.760 Yeah.

00:25:31.400 Why?

00:25:31.720 Sure.

00:25:32.120 But like, I think it's more like.

00:25:34.080 It's more unusual that they come at you as the bogeyman and what you are is an independent

00:25:39.120 self-made journalist.

00:25:40.700 Right.

00:25:41.700 And these same people that come at you are happily endorsing Nike, which I believe uses

00:25:45.720 child slave labor. 0.95

00:25:46.880 Used to.

00:25:47.720 Oh, okay.

00:25:48.280 We'll be fair.

00:25:48.740 We'll be fair.

00:25:49.280 All I'm saying is like, they tow the corporate line.

00:25:51.500 They're like, yes, yes, we'll do that.

00:25:52.800 But Tim Pool, bad guy.

00:25:54.240 It just, it doesn't make sense to me.

00:25:55.480 Weren't they like posting that you were a white supremacist?

00:25:58.260 Oh, of course.

00:25:58.800 Of course.

00:25:59.080 But here's the most offensive thing.

00:26:00.900 And here's what I'm, what I'm getting to.

00:26:03.120 I'm, I open a magazine like anybody reads magazines anymore.

00:26:06.500 And I see a dude.

00:26:08.980 Well, I see a diverse person, a gender diverse person.

00:26:13.280 Yeah.

00:26:13.400 I'll just keep it vague as possible.

00:26:14.540 And they're doing like a slappy.

00:26:17.240 Okay.

00:26:17.820 For people don't, we gotta be, we gotta translate.

00:26:19.860 A slappy is when you just ride your board up onto a curb.

00:26:23.340 So the trucks are grinding against the concrete and it is, I don't know.

00:26:29.800 I mean, if you, if you're a little kid who just started skating, you might be able to

00:26:32.600 get that in what a week or so, or not even, I don't know.

00:26:35.600 It's one of the first things you might even try learning, just riding your board up onto

00:26:38.780 a curb and getting a little grind before you can even jump or do any of these tricks.

00:26:41.700 And I'm like, how is this an ad in a magazine for a professional skateboard company?

00:26:47.740 It used to be like, you'd see some 19 year old kid jumping off a building.

00:26:51.160 And now it's like, they'd rather have a, a, a, a diverse person doing literally nothing. 0.96

00:26:57.700 And that is going to sell more product.

00:26:59.860 Here's where my distrust comes in on that.

00:27:01.980 Um, these same publications used to absolutely tear people apart for being trans or homosexual.

00:27:07.180 That was a, something they'd go after them for same with the mainstream media.

00:27:10.840 There was a guy, uh, he was a popular guy, Norman Gunston.

00:27:14.300 And I remember in the eighties, they had boy George on the show. 0.93

00:27:16.760 And the whole point of it was to humiliate him for being gay. 0.86

00:27:19.400 That was like what they were driving at. 0.96

00:27:20.880 And he walked off the show.

00:27:21.820 That same channel will now humiliate you. 0.62

00:27:24.240 If you possibly said something homophobic, I don't trust the media one bit.

00:27:28.660 Cause it's like, hang on a second, 10 years ago, you were the guys ruining people for 0.95

00:27:33.500 being gay. 0.94

00:27:33.920 Now you're ruining people for potentially insulting it. 0.97

00:27:36.700 Like, I don't trust the media.

00:27:38.960 Put it that way.

00:27:39.500 You know what I'm saying?

00:27:40.340 Yeah.

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00:27:41.480 Like, no, I mean, I agree.

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00:29:14.880 I think it's under 95.

00:29:17.140 The Logan Square skate park. 0.98

00:29:19.260 It's pretty trash. 0.87

00:29:20.300 I haven't been there in a decade, so I don't know longer than that actually, but it was 0.95

00:29:23.780 like built super improperly.

00:29:25.720 It resulted in a guy getting seriously injured.

00:29:28.060 For those who skate, they built a bowl section, but they did not know how to build a bowl section.

00:29:34.900 So it was basically just quarter pipes with like, I don't even know how to describe the

00:29:39.800 transition.

00:29:40.180 It was so fast.

00:29:40.960 You could not carve between, from one quarter pipe wall to the other.

00:29:45.460 And so this dude, this old guy did not know that and assumed it was probably going to be

00:29:49.380 a regular bowl.

00:29:50.120 And so he threw his board down the first time he was there, charged in, and he tried to

00:29:54.200 carve around a bowl.

00:29:55.560 So imagine a bowl shape for those that don't know skating.

00:29:57.680 But he slammed into the wall because there wasn't actually a real transition, hit his head

00:30:02.200 and just went out, was bleeding.

00:30:04.040 And they had to call 911.

00:30:05.160 Very improperly built skate park.

00:30:06.720 I digress.

00:30:07.900 You know what the graffiti all over the place there said?

00:30:09.580 Oh, I bet I know. 0.99

00:30:10.420 It was penises. 0.99

00:30:12.000 It was slurs. 1.00

00:30:13.800 It was homophobic slurs and racial slurs just everywhere.

00:30:19.880 And I was like, these kids are giving a middle finger to the machine, to the establishment.

00:30:24.760 They're doing whatever they want.

00:30:25.820 They're saying, F you.

00:30:26.480 That's the point of graffiti. 0.57

00:30:27.160 And then a year ago, we went to a skate park out here and the spray paint was Black Lives 0.82

00:30:33.140 Matter.

00:30:33.660 Pendulum always swings, man.

00:30:35.240 But this is the funny thing.

00:30:37.220 The Black Lives Matter is a corporate, corporate slogan used by Amazon and Walmart.

00:30:44.960 And I see these kids sitting underneath and I start laughing.

00:30:47.880 And I'm like, which one of you guys spray painted Amazon's corporate slogan on a ramp?

00:30:53.300 Like, how is it punk rock and anti-establishment to be like, we're for the machine?

00:30:58.460 What has happened to skateboarding?

00:30:59.700 I'm an old man and I am angry.

00:31:01.440 Do you remember when Nike was trying to get in and they couldn't do it?

00:31:04.640 They had a company called Savior Footwear, but it was secretly Nike.

00:31:08.040 It was Nike in disguise.

00:31:09.500 Do you remember, Dennis?

00:31:10.240 I remember the shoes.

00:31:10.960 I forgot it was Nike.

00:31:11.600 That was Nike.

00:31:12.320 And then they're like, okay, blast.

00:31:13.660 That one didn't work.

00:31:14.540 And then they got it, I think, the third time.

00:31:17.320 And then they got everything.

00:31:18.560 That's why every skate shoe company has, remember, everybody remembers DC, Fallen, you know, Vans is still there.

00:31:24.840 I've got a story about shoe companies.

00:31:26.180 Go ahead.

00:31:26.620 So one of my friends, he rides for a famous, or I don't think he does anymore, but famous shoe company.

00:31:32.320 And about a year ago, he was like, they don't care about me.

00:31:36.760 If I put on a dress, I'd be the hottest new thing on the scene.

00:31:39.740 I would be making so much more money.

00:31:41.480 They would put my ads out again and all this stuff.

00:31:43.400 And he was right because yesterday I showed Richie an ad from that same shoe company of somebody pushing down the street in a dress and not doing much of anything.

00:31:51.260 And I'm sorry.

00:31:51.840 My friend is better and deserves that credit.

00:31:54.460 This is the thing.

00:31:56.340 I'm like, the future of wokeness in culture is going to be like, merit is meaningless.

00:32:03.380 Pushing the boundaries is meaningless.

00:32:05.300 All that matters is you're a quote unquote diverse person.

00:32:07.960 I think the worst thing about it is actually there seems to be an undercurrent of wanting people to not only fail, but lose money, lose their jobs.

00:32:17.680 And I've never wished that upon anybody.

00:32:19.760 Like, I've noticed this in skateboarding.

00:32:21.840 If you're making a lot of money, they hate you.

00:32:23.940 If you're not, they also hate you. 1.00

00:32:25.380 If you're not making money, it's you, loser. 1.00

00:32:27.020 Look at him. 1.00

00:32:27.520 Look at him struggling, circling the bowl. 1.00

00:32:29.380 What a loser. 0.98

00:32:29.980 And if you're making money, like, well, well, well, what a piece of, you know, that's how it goes. 0.99

00:32:34.940 And I've realized that it's an unwinnable game.

00:32:37.940 Like, if you fail, they hate you.

00:32:39.660 If you win, they hate you.

00:32:40.880 So, hate away, I guess.

00:32:42.480 At this point, I feel like I'm tossing them food, like, here, like, hate me.

00:32:48.780 Go ahead.

00:32:49.640 You know?

00:32:49.980 I don't know.

00:32:50.320 It's the strangest thing.

00:32:51.200 You never can please everybody.

00:32:52.700 Well, but is that like a form of sadomasochism that I'm like, I know you guys want to hate me, so here, take this.

00:32:57.360 Here's me and Lauren Southern.

00:32:58.320 Hate away.

00:32:59.100 Because I think that gives them a pleasure.

00:33:00.640 You like it.

00:33:01.220 That's why you posted a picture.

00:33:02.340 No, they like it.

00:33:03.240 I think they like it.

00:33:04.200 You like that they like it.

00:33:05.320 Like, people think, oh, I'm going to go, like, leave a bunch of nasty comments and boost his algorithm.

00:33:12.220 Like, that's a bad thing.

00:33:14.020 I'm facilitating. 0.96

00:33:15.220 I want to warn these lunatics, okay? 0.80

00:33:18.940 Like, skateboarders, Richie in particular, are fairly F you kind of people. 0.85

00:33:24.320 And so part of me thinks that here's innocent old Richie Jackson who just wants to, you know, skate around and jump down some stairs and ride his little, you know, stick board and have a good time.

00:33:37.360 And then he meets someone and he's like, oh, this person also likes stick board.

00:33:41.820 So they attack you and then you're like, no, I'm going to, I'm going to make you pay for, for you insult me.

00:33:46.820 How dare you?

00:33:47.380 Well, the other thing about me is it's not a good idea to tell me to not do something.

00:33:50.940 So when people told me not to come out here and meet Tim Pool, yeah, that's.

00:33:54.520 He's like, the first thing he does is he's like, can we go to, can we go to Tim Pool?

00:33:57.300 Yeah, that's pretty much how it works.

00:33:59.640 Well, they think they can, they think they can control you.

00:34:02.400 But I have to wonder if skateboarding is one of the bigger mistakes they made.

00:34:06.900 I said this like seven years ago when we started seeing, I can't remember exactly what we were watching.

00:34:14.180 It was probably gamer stuff where we, like Gamergate, post, post Gamergate stuff with, you know, diversity in sports.

00:34:22.660 Oh, no, no, no, no, it wasn't.

00:34:24.100 We were, yeah, it was like gamer stuff and comic stuff.

00:34:26.220 And I said, it's going to be absolutely hilarious when they try bringing all of this woke stuff into major league sports.

00:34:31.720 Because I kid you not, we will see a point where there's going to be calls for diverse basketball teams where they say, hear me out, hear me out.

00:34:42.000 Because I got an argument for you.

00:34:43.200 All the woke leftists out there, they can hear this one.

00:34:46.040 How come basketball teams are all men?

00:34:49.160 There's no rule saying women can't be on the team. 1.00

00:34:51.820 It's because when it comes to trouts and it comes to scoring frequency, et cetera, dunking, women don't do as well as the men. 1.00

00:35:00.060 You know what that means?

00:35:00.900 Well, if the rules of basketball were made up by us and arbitrary, why don't we just say the rule is the team has to be half male, half female?

00:35:08.280 We made the rule about how many steps you can take before you, while carrying the ball until you're traveling.

00:35:13.480 Why not make a rule that says teams got to be at least three females on the court at all times? 1.00

00:35:18.400 I got a better idea.

00:35:19.380 Cancel team sports entirely.

00:35:21.480 That's the Globetrotters.

00:35:23.000 Yeah.

00:35:23.860 I'm on that Globetrotter train.

00:35:25.080 They got a few girls. 0.94

00:35:26.300 They got like little people.

00:35:27.720 It's awesome.

00:35:28.520 Well, the Globetrotters are fun though.

00:35:29.660 That's a WWE basketball.

00:35:30.620 Exactly.

00:35:31.500 WWE basketball.

00:35:32.260 That's good.

00:35:32.840 Yeah.

00:35:33.300 But those girls are good though. 1.00

00:35:35.260 A lot of them are really good ball handlers and they hold their own.

00:35:38.580 So Globetrotters already got it.

00:35:39.380 But in like an actual, they wouldn't be in the NBA.

00:35:43.140 Right.

00:35:43.620 No way.

00:35:44.020 So this is my point.

00:35:45.500 We're actually at this point in skateboarding.

00:35:48.440 And, you know, so obviously I don't think they go after the big dogs first, like football.

00:35:52.740 But now you have with like Taylor and your experience, you have males competing against females. 0.96

00:35:59.020 And they're like, this male is allowed to compete because they're wearing a dress.

00:36:02.800 Skateboarding, I correct me if I'm wrong.

00:36:05.120 It may be changing.

00:36:06.260 But my understanding is the contest you were in did not have like testosterone limits or anything.

00:36:10.400 They quite literally said if you're a woman, if you say you're a woman, you are.

00:36:12.480 Well, all the information that I was given, like they email you and stuff and tell you where it's going to be and when you need to get there because I'm traveling to go to this stuff.

00:36:21.780 All the Red Bull stuff said female.

00:36:24.040 So even if there was any confusion between someone about like how you define woman, which to me is simple.

00:36:30.100 That's an adult human female. 0.99

00:36:31.980 But to some people, it's pretty complicated, I guess.

00:36:34.880 But they all said female.

00:36:35.660 To long people. 0.98

00:36:36.640 Yeah, to crazy people. 0.94

00:36:38.080 And I didn't even see it coming because it said female. 0.93

00:36:45.460 I think it's time for lawsuits.

00:36:48.000 I think it's time to eliminate competitions entirely.

00:36:51.080 No, I like contests.

00:36:52.260 No, skateboarding's art.

00:36:53.300 Let's just all be in the streets together.

00:36:54.800 There doesn't need to be a competition.

00:36:56.140 Contests are what push the limits.

00:36:57.360 That's when people are going the hardest is that during the heat of the contest.

00:37:00.520 I think they're really a positive thing.

00:37:03.440 And like it gives people opportunities to someone who like even isn't sponsored.

00:37:07.380 Could go make money, do really well in a contest, get some like coverage over it in the skateboarding world.

00:37:13.920 And that's awesome.

00:37:15.060 And also, I think let the market decide.

00:37:16.920 You know, Richie, you don't like contests.

00:37:18.820 You make this artistic form of skateboard.

00:37:21.420 Skateboarding is very unique and creative and it blends skill and creativity in probably the best way in skateboarding.

00:37:27.120 And then you have people who like to just do the most basic, rigid, gray box tricks.

00:37:34.400 Let's not be so hasty there.

00:37:36.000 I have a theory about that.

00:37:37.060 I think I know what that kind of skateboarding is, particularly the handrail skating.

00:37:41.000 I truly believe it's a placeholder for hunting.

00:37:44.640 I think that now it's true.

00:37:46.020 Think about it.

00:37:46.540 Now that food is available at the supermarket, right?

00:37:48.800 We've taken out the hunting drive because you just go to the supermarket, buy your steak.

00:37:54.540 So what the young dudes do instead, they get a gang of guys together.

00:37:58.120 They get in a car.

00:37:59.240 The handrail is a placeholder for the woolly mammoth.

00:38:02.120 I agree.

00:38:02.660 And the footage is the thing.

00:38:04.880 And if you slay the handrail, you slay the mammoth, you go home and potentially you eat.

00:38:09.540 You are 100% correct.

00:38:11.260 I completely agree.

00:38:12.480 Thank you.

00:38:13.220 The male object oriented drive of conquering the beast.

00:38:16.200 Yes.

00:38:16.400 So in skateboarding, as we mentioned, there are many spots.

00:38:20.680 So Hollywood High is a really great example of one of the most famous locations to skateboarders.

00:38:26.320 It is a high school in Hollywood.

00:38:28.740 That's it.

00:38:29.180 It's very simple.

00:38:29.680 Hollywood High School.

00:38:30.800 There is in the front of the school.

00:38:32.900 There are two sets of stairs because the ground goes downhill.

00:38:36.220 One side, I believe, is 10 stairs.

00:38:38.300 I think it's 12 and 16.

00:38:39.080 It's going to be a 12 and a 16.

00:38:40.500 12 and a 16.

00:38:41.160 See, these guys know their stuff.

00:38:42.480 Now, how many of you know how many stairs an obscure high school on this side of the country has?

00:38:48.200 Skateboarders know these things.

00:38:49.460 And it has turned into a wonder of the skateboarding world in that it is a famous location, 16 stairs.

00:38:57.380 That means there are 16 steps going up the stairs into the school, and there's a railing going down it.

00:39:01.880 It is particularly large.

00:39:04.060 Not the biggest, but it's big.

00:39:05.620 And so what happens is one day a skateboarder says, wow, look how big this railing is.

00:39:10.600 I bet it can slide down it.

00:39:11.660 So they jump up on their board, land on the rail, slide down it, and ride away.

00:39:16.400 Let's say they do what's called a board slide.

00:39:18.240 That's where you just jump up, put your board on the rail, you go down.

00:39:20.900 Relatively easy, relatively simple, I should say.

00:39:23.180 Down a massive set of stairs, it's a big deal.

00:39:25.940 But guess what?

00:39:28.120 NBD, we say never been done.

00:39:30.180 And so these young guys pull up in their car to go hunting, as Richie says.

00:39:33.320 And they're like, the board slide has already been slain.

00:39:36.880 If I were to bring back a board slide to my tribe, they would say, who cares?

00:39:40.140 John did that last week.

00:39:41.500 You do not impress us, sir.

00:39:43.100 So they try a more difficult trick.

00:39:45.180 Now they're going to kickflip into the board slide.

00:39:47.760 So now they're jumping in the air.

00:39:49.020 The board flips one time under their feet and then hits the rail.

00:39:52.860 And now it's, whoa, that was even crazier.

00:39:55.540 Every time a skateboarder ups the ante, they're bringing back a bigger, bigger woolly mammoth.

00:40:00.160 Precisely.

00:40:00.420 So I completely agree with that.

00:40:02.140 And it's funny because that's what a lot of competitive skateboarding is.

00:40:07.700 And it's also what's being stripped and removed.

00:40:10.780 So one of the things about having males compete against females is it's taking that away.

00:40:16.160 It's even among females, there is this component. 1.00

00:40:18.620 It's humans or humans, whether they're male or female.

00:40:20.460 Males probably are driven more to this than females.

00:40:22.420 But Taylor, you compete and you compete because you want to slay the beast in much the same way and be the best skateboarder there.

00:40:30.440 Skate as good as you can and show I took home this gigantic, you know, woolly mammoth.

00:40:35.260 But now what they're saying is none of that matters because it's not about the woolly mammoth you caught.

00:40:40.200 It's about the diversity of the person going on the hunt.

00:40:44.060 Yeah, decent point.

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00:42:14.780 Okay.

00:42:15.480 Well, if you're doing Hollywood, let's do Wilshire.

00:42:18.580 How many stairs up and down?

00:42:20.280 Was that 15?

00:42:20.720 That was 15 on the one side.

00:42:21.820 10 and 15.

00:42:22.220 10 and 15.

00:42:22.400 There we go.

00:42:22.880 All right.

00:42:23.480 But that's gone, isn't it?

00:42:24.760 No, it is still there.

00:42:25.980 Well, it's knobbed.

00:42:26.920 It's blind bumped.

00:42:27.880 See, I have a theory about this.

00:42:30.740 For those of you unfamiliar with skateboarding, one of the main things that stops us is strips in front of the stairs that are essentially braille for blind people.

00:42:38.120 So I think it's a double whammy.

00:42:40.060 I think they're kind of doing it for blind people and kind of doing it to stop us skating. 1.00

00:42:44.420 But in the future, when we cure blindness, those will have to go away.

00:42:47.260 Elon Musk, once no one's ever blind, then skateboarding will have free reign to do whatever they want.

00:42:51.880 Exactly.

00:42:52.600 We got to get rid of those strips because people just be ripping them out all by themselves.

00:42:56.420 So I guess part of me feels like it's completely obvious, right?

00:43:01.000 That what we're seeing with what happened to you is the breakdown of the masculine energy of competition.

00:43:09.240 And it's just the weirdest thing.

00:43:13.960 We see this across the board.

00:43:14.860 All that matters is, are you a diverse person?

00:43:17.520 It doesn't matter, like competition, done, done, you know, they're trying to get rid of that.

00:43:23.500 I think another thing people forget, like, since I came out here, this is one of the most diverse crews that I've ever worked with.

00:43:31.820 Armenian and Jewish and Iranian isn't diverse enough, Richie.

00:43:35.180 Right.

00:43:35.660 What about the Korean over here?

00:43:37.520 It doesn't count.

00:43:37.900 Oh yeah, I forget.

00:43:38.680 You got a bit of Korean.

00:43:39.740 Hey, I'm an ethnic Ukrainian, but nobody cares about that.

00:43:42.300 But diversity doesn't mean actual, like, difference.

00:43:49.120 Diversity means, this is the funny thing, when they say diversity, they mean homogenized opinions.

00:43:53.940 Right.

00:43:54.520 They're like, is it diverse?

00:43:55.820 What they're really saying is, does everyone agree with the cult?

00:43:58.200 Who do you think is more, like, susceptible to this stuff?

00:44:03.460 Because what I've seen is women are far more likely to go along with it. 1.00

00:44:08.000 Absolutely.

00:44:08.800 Which is crazy to me, because we're the ones who get impacted the worst by it.

00:44:14.020 You know, I just, it is the weirdest thing to me where, like, you have lesbians that adamantly and fervently demand the right of males to be at lesbian events. 1.00

00:44:30.520 And I'm just like, well, hold on.

00:44:32.460 You don't have to hate the person.

00:44:33.780 I'm not saying hate them.

00:44:34.600 I'm saying you created a space for a particular group, because you would like to meet more people like you.

00:44:41.100 I think that's fine.

00:44:42.240 Careful now.

00:44:42.780 I'm like Larry David.

00:44:43.640 I am friend-o lesbian.

00:44:45.260 But I've got no issue.

00:44:47.180 My point is.

00:44:48.360 We're talking about male lesbians. 0.99

00:44:50.800 Yes, we are. 0.98

00:44:51.660 Actually, the Red Bull guy was a lesbian. 1.00

00:44:55.180 Wow. 0.97

00:44:55.680 Yeah.

00:44:55.880 Well, look, look.

00:44:56.540 So my point is this. 0.98

00:44:57.840 Hey, man, I don't care if you're lesbian. 1.00

00:44:58.800 I don't care if you're gay. 1.00

00:44:59.340 I don't care if you're trans or whatever. 1.00

00:45:00.680 You do your thing.

00:45:01.200 You have a good time.

00:45:02.320 You do what you want to do.

00:45:03.440 But you make your space.

00:45:05.340 You build your space.

00:45:06.800 Have a good time.

00:45:07.820 So what's weird to me is you have females. 0.99

00:45:11.080 Okay, lesbian is traditionally defined as a female attracted to females. 0.90

00:45:15.360 No, no, no.

00:45:15.700 It's a person from the island of Lesbos.

00:45:17.440 Didn't they change that to a non-man? 0.96

00:45:20.380 Yes.

00:45:20.760 Attracted to a non-man. 0.92

00:45:22.240 There was an organization that claimed lesbian means non-man attracted to non-man.

00:45:25.700 And it's like, but that means you could have two non-binary males and call them lesbians. 0.98

00:45:30.080 So what is the purpose of the word but to define a thing so people can understand?

00:45:34.620 So my point is this.

00:45:35.780 There are, there are, there's a group called, what is it called?

00:45:40.040 Get the L out?

00:45:40.900 Is that what it is?

00:45:42.700 No, no, no.

00:45:43.340 It's get, I forgot what it's called.

00:45:44.620 But there's, yeah, I think it's get the L out. 0.98

00:45:47.040 There is a group of lesbians in the UK that are, that believe that LGBT doesn't make sense

00:45:54.120 because LGB defines something specifically, but trans is something totally different.

00:45:58.220 And so you have groups like LGB Alliance, which is lesbian, gay, and bisexual.

00:46:02.160 They removed trans from it. 1.00

00:46:03.340 So you, but you have females attracted to females who they will snap with, with, with 1.00

00:46:10.420 fervor defend.

00:46:11.700 And if you ask them, you'll say, if, if a, if a biological male showed up to a lesbian

00:46:16.820 bar that said, you know, it's, it's for lesbians, but they were clearly male with a beard. 1.00

00:46:20.200 I think it was said they were a woman.

00:46:21.060 Yes.

00:46:21.240 They're allowed in.

00:46:21.880 Are you talking about the she, she lounge? 0.71

00:46:23.680 Wait a minute.

00:46:24.980 There's something strange about this place. 0.87

00:46:27.840 This lesbian bar doesn't have a fire exit. 1.00

00:46:30.780 Enjoy your death trap, ladies. 1.00

00:46:32.840 This guy watches, watch too much Simpsons.

00:46:34.840 I've been at a Simpsons table read and seen Dan Castellaneta do Homer Simpson.

00:46:38.760 He tucks his top lip and I never forgot it.

00:46:40.940 Wow.

00:46:41.080 He tucks it like this.

00:46:42.400 On the other hand though, you see like.

00:46:44.140 As an aside.

00:46:45.280 There, there are a lot of lesbians who speak out about this stuff. 1.00

00:46:47.780 Like Ariel Scarcella.

00:46:49.160 Oh yeah.

00:46:49.480 She was, she was one of the first shows that I went on when I first spoke up.

00:46:53.500 She reached out to me and I was like, oh my gosh, it's Ariel.

00:46:56.020 Cause I used to watch her show all the time.

00:46:57.840 I still do now, but like before all this.

00:47:00.060 But, but.

00:47:00.560 But it's, it's crazy.

00:47:01.720 Like at this contest, after I speak up, even some of the girls who are in the contest, there

00:47:07.340 were some who were speaking up behind the scenes and I'd heard about it through

00:47:10.420 mutual friends before I finally posted.

00:47:13.420 But some of them started going after me.

00:47:16.540 Like as if I had done something wrong and they were really supportive of this person.

00:47:20.940 And I'm thinking, well, first off, you guys weren't placed in any way.

00:47:25.140 You weren't impacted.

00:47:25.860 But second off, like, don't you care enough about other women who are passionate about

00:47:31.360 the same thing as you to want them to have equality and for yourself to have equality?

00:47:36.240 Look, I feel for you, Taylor, but part of me is just like, okay, no more, no more women 1.00

00:47:39.360 skateboarding.

00:47:39.880 Have a nice day.

00:47:41.100 You know what?

00:47:42.060 I'm 28 years old.

00:47:43.020 Shut it down.

00:47:43.860 Shut it down.

00:47:44.820 I'm getting married and getting ready to have a baby hopefully in the next couple of years.

00:47:49.600 So if women really want to deal with this stuff, I can't hold their hands and fix it for them. 1.00

00:47:54.520 It's their problem.

00:47:55.700 But I will keep speaking up about it because I want to have kids and I don't want my daughters

00:48:00.860 to not have the same opportunities that I had in sports.

00:48:03.300 And it impacts every sport, not just skateboarding.

00:48:05.660 I don't care what sport my future hopeful daughter loves one day.

00:48:11.380 I want her to be able to succeed in that if she works hard.

00:48:14.260 Oh, she's got to skate. 0.90

00:48:15.400 I hope she skates.

00:48:16.620 If she doesn't skate, I'm going to be really sad.

00:48:18.400 It'll be up to you.

00:48:19.020 You got to buy a skateboard for your daughter.

00:48:20.600 Yes.

00:48:21.140 Well, we'll see.

00:48:21.920 I don't know how many kids I'm going to have or if they're going to be boys or girls or

00:48:25.760 what, but they're going to be surrounded by skateboarding.

00:48:28.360 Look, what do we often see when it comes to males competing in female sports?

00:48:32.680 These are guys who did not rank that well after they transition are now ranking very high

00:48:36.840 among female athletes.

00:48:39.380 So if this is what persists, there will just be no female sports. 1.00

00:48:44.640 I'm just bummed I get no credit for, I've been a cross-dresser this whole time.

00:48:48.080 I only wear women's clothing, but I'm not claiming anything.

00:48:51.360 But they identify as a woman.

00:48:53.040 You can just say you are and then you can compete in women's sports. 1.00

00:48:54.920 I identify as a lot of things.

00:48:57.340 Here's the end result.

00:48:59.000 If it's not going the other direction, we don't see biological females competing against 1.00

00:49:02.960 males.

00:49:03.720 In fact, I'm going to go for it.

00:49:05.080 I'm going to go for it.

00:49:05.640 I'm going to, I'm going to, you guys want to be controversial?

00:49:07.980 I think in like local, like smaller contests, you see that sometimes.

00:49:11.340 Maybe.

00:49:11.780 Let's be controversial.

00:49:12.420 Like when I first started competing, there weren't women's divisions. 0.98

00:49:17.420 So there would just be like an open division and it was like a local thing in Michigan.

00:49:21.560 How angry do you guys want to make the skateboard community? 0.89

00:49:23.960 Oh, let's make them piss. 1.00

00:49:25.800 Well, they're already as angry as they can get. 0.92

00:49:28.500 Okay.

00:49:28.760 Why did Leo Baker, formerly Lacey Baker, who I've met and skated with on a few occasions,

00:49:35.660 identify as male and trans and then keep continuing to compete against females?

00:49:40.120 I don't know.

00:49:41.160 All I remember is being at a party with Lacey and Lacey needed cigarettes and I couldn't

00:49:45.420 find cigarettes.

00:49:46.200 Didn't they like not or she or he or whatever?

00:49:49.060 I don't know what it is now.

00:49:50.480 I think that it's like not he anymore and now they're non-binary. 1.00

00:49:54.700 Yes.

00:49:55.220 And so I, and I'm, I, I look, man, it's not personal, but I, you will not be able to

00:50:01.540 come to me and say, do not criticize someone's bad behavior because of their identity.

00:50:05.980 No, no, no, no.

00:50:06.400 Didn't Baker not go forward with competing?

00:50:08.880 Was trans and did compete against females.

00:50:11.940 And my question is, was it street league or what?

00:50:15.240 X games, I think.

00:50:16.660 Okay.

00:50:16.860 Lacey Baker, biological female, very good skateboarder. 1.00

00:50:20.580 I mean, one of the best females in the world.

00:50:22.560 But like didn't go forward with Olympics or something.

00:50:24.980 So Lacey Baker. 1.00

00:50:26.300 At one point.

00:50:27.340 Okay.

00:50:27.820 Not talking about Olympics though.

00:50:29.040 Okay.

00:50:29.260 Okay.

00:50:29.520 So, so what happens is Lacey Baker, female, competes against females, wins, does very well. 0.98

00:50:36.040 More power to Lacey. 1.00

00:50:37.720 Now, Leo.

00:50:38.760 At one point, Lacey says publicly, I am trans and I am Leo, but continues to skate against

00:50:47.160 females. 0.98

00:50:48.020 Later on says, you know what?

00:50:50.420 I'm actually not a trans man.

00:50:51.900 I'm non-binary actually.

00:50:53.260 And so my, I, I, I, I, I'm calling shenanigans on that.

00:50:57.200 Why do you think that is, Tim?

00:50:59.580 Look, why, why are we not?

00:51:01.860 There are biological differences between male and female that we are not at the same level 0.79

00:51:07.400 athletically.

00:51:07.980 Would not qualify for the male X games.

00:51:10.180 Yeah.

00:51:10.520 No question.

00:51:11.980 There is there.

00:51:13.040 I do not believe there is a sport.

00:51:14.920 So obviously depicting the differences between males and females, then skateboard, skateboarding

00:51:19.500 is the, is the apex of, we can discernibly say men and women have different capabilities.

00:51:25.720 Males and females are at different levels when it comes to sporting events.

00:51:28.320 No question.

00:51:29.440 I agree.

00:51:29.800 I have a lot of people tell me too, like, Oh, well in a sport like skateboarding, it's,

00:51:34.000 it's about creativity and skill.

00:51:36.900 And it's like, have you ever watched a skateboarding contest where there's a male and a female division?

00:51:40.940 Cause just watching it, it's so blatantly obvious.

00:51:46.140 Unquestionable.

00:51:46.720 The huge difference.

00:51:48.120 Leticia Buffoni, the best female skateboard in the world probably is incredibly good. 1.00

00:51:53.380 Oh yeah.

00:51:53.780 Incredibly good.

00:51:54.500 She is better than 99% of men.

00:51:56.700 99% of men haven't parachuted out of a plane from a feeble grind.

00:52:00.120 Exactly.

00:52:00.480 Right.

00:52:00.840 So, so to break it down, she was in a, in a cargo plane and she jumped on her board with

00:52:05.680 a parachute on, jumped on and, and slid across a rail and then out of the plane.

00:52:10.940 She's great.

00:52:11.480 You know what? 0.99

00:52:11.740 I am going to go in on the woke losers. 0.99

00:52:13.660 Woke losers saw that video and said how irresponsible her board could have hit somebody in the head 1.00

00:52:18.640 on the ground. 0.99

00:52:19.680 So, you know what?

00:52:21.060 You absolute sniveling.

00:52:23.600 But if you're, if you're comparing her to male skateboarders though, you have to consider

00:52:28.100 that she is at the elite level of female skateboarders.

00:52:31.120 You're not comparing her to average dudes.

00:52:33.620 Right.

00:52:33.780 You have to compare her to the best of the best of the guys.

00:52:36.280 Of course.

00:52:36.660 So if you take someone like, uh, Leticia Bufoni and you bring her to any skate park, she is

00:52:42.800 going to be in the top 5% of the skateboards at that park.

00:52:45.900 However, I think it's fair to say your average local ripper, we would call it, is probably

00:52:51.400 better than her.

00:52:51.880 No, I, I, I'm sorry.

00:52:55.540 I look, you, we, we go up to like, Hey, I go to Estonia with Leticia and I've seen it

00:53:00.280 in person.

00:53:00.740 I know she's good.

00:53:01.420 But if you got a bunch of really good dudes who are pro together, yeah.

00:53:06.560 No, no.

00:53:06.820 But I'm saying like that, I'm saying every, every city has their rippers, their, their

00:53:11.420 top crew sponsored.

00:53:13.240 She's not better than these guys.

00:53:14.540 Sorry.

00:53:14.980 Like, look, dude, I'm not talking about a local crew of like a few teenagers.

00:53:19.740 I'm talking about the guys who, who have been sponsored by the local skate shop for several

00:53:23.100 years, who, who are flow or am for a bunch of these companies.

00:53:25.760 And they will skate around and sometimes go on tours or whatever I'm talking about when

00:53:30.240 you go to your local skate park and then you're like, Oh man, it's, it's, you know, insert

00:53:34.400 company name team has just showed up.

00:53:36.520 I guess the point I'm making is Leticia being where she is, is, is not an accident.

00:53:40.480 Of course.

00:53:40.960 She's one of the best skateboarders in the world outright, regardless of her gender.

00:53:44.360 But my point is she, Leticia is not going to, not going to qualify for the X Games men.

00:53:49.640 It's just not going to happen.

00:53:51.660 Look, I I've seen her do awesome stuff and there, and there is that.

00:53:55.760 One young girl, um, who did what she did, like the kickflip front blunt or whatever,

00:54:01.280 or she did like the blunt bigspin and like, she didn't know she, what did she do?

00:54:04.640 Kickflip front blunt bigspin at the Barrett?

00:54:05.860 Yeah, I think so.

00:54:06.420 I'm like, Brazilian.

00:54:07.500 That's crazy.

00:54:08.720 All these women are Brazilian, by the way. 1.00

00:54:10.360 Can I just point that out real quick?

00:54:11.400 That is crazy.

00:54:11.860 Yes.

00:54:12.460 But, but anyway, what they try to do is they try to say that, uh, we should set a testosterone

00:54:18.000 standard for sports.

00:54:19.380 I think skateboarding debunks that notion instantly. 0.84

00:54:21.740 Well, I think in any sport that's silly.

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00:55:48.420 Did I mention that we care?

00:55:51.560 Because being female is a lot more than your hormone levels. 1.00

00:55:57.140 Right.

00:55:57.880 Like there's so much more that goes into it.

00:55:59.720 There's bone density.

00:56:00.780 There's lung capacity.

00:56:01.940 There's the size of your heart.

00:56:03.260 There's your, like how fast you react, your reaction time.

00:56:08.280 Center of gravity.

00:56:08.940 Your center of gravity.

00:56:09.980 Your hips.

00:56:10.700 Your hips are shaped completely differently.

00:56:12.960 Also, it's unfair.

00:56:14.000 If they're measuring by testosterone, I'm just going to win every time.

00:56:17.240 That's right.

00:56:17.820 And they're going to say, no, they're going to say, Richie, actually, your testosterone's too high.

00:56:20.300 It's too high.

00:56:20.800 You're out.

00:56:21.380 That's the main reason they won't let me compete.

00:56:23.920 Check it out.

00:56:24.640 The point is there's so many different factors physically that make it different for men and

00:56:33.080 women in athletics, not just skateboarding, but especially something like skateboarding. 1.00

00:56:37.920 And testosterone is not the end all be all of that.

00:56:40.760 They, they do this thing with a standard of if you have not gone through male puberty or your, your testosterone is below a certain level.

00:56:49.640 And that is wrong.

00:56:50.940 I think skateboarding debunks this idea.

00:56:53.180 And I'll tell you exactly why.

00:56:54.180 How old was the person who did the first 10, 80 in skateboarding?

00:56:59.140 That is, that is three complete rotations on a skateboard while in, while in the air.

00:57:03.160 How old is this person?

00:57:04.100 Like nine or 10.

00:57:05.580 No, I think it was like 13.

00:57:06.780 No, he was either 10 or 80.

00:57:08.460 He's either 10 or 80.

00:57:09.840 It was, um, who, who, who was it?

00:57:12.340 Mitchie Brusco or was it?

00:57:13.700 Brusco did the 1260.

00:57:15.300 Uh, Brusco did.

00:57:16.440 Brusco went one better.

00:57:17.660 Yeah.

00:57:18.060 Extra rotation.

00:57:19.520 Shout out to Mitchie Brusco, by the way.

00:57:20.680 But he was like in his twenties when he did that.

00:57:22.640 The first, so Tony Hawk famously landed the, the, uh, uh, nine.

00:57:28.300 Then famous trick, the 900, it was called.

00:57:31.080 It's, he goes up on a vert ramp, spins two and a half times around and comes back down.

00:57:36.120 And it was, it, it was, it took decades of people trying.

00:57:39.880 It was, it was unbelievable.

00:57:40.840 Some people thought it wasn't even possible.

00:57:41.960 And then he finally did it.

00:57:43.060 And it was the biggest event.

00:57:45.120 It, it created the initial skateboard boom.

00:57:47.920 It did.

00:57:48.740 So this, this is what got me into skateboarding.

00:57:50.680 Tony Hawk landing that really.

00:57:52.520 I mean, every, how many people our age, Tony Hawk lands the 900.

00:57:56.720 The game was already in the works, but ask yourself why, you know, Sean, Sean, was it

00:58:01.880 Sean Palmer's pro snowboarder did not do nearly as well.

00:58:04.960 Tony Hawk's landing this, this, this long side after trick, the 900 was a major press

00:58:09.280 event plus the game made this major, like boom.

00:58:15.660 A 10 80 is an extra rotation.

00:58:18.440 So it was a, I think 12 years old is the age of, I think it was Mitchie maybe who did it.

00:58:24.020 And, uh, 12 years old landing.

00:58:26.380 The first 10 80 defeating, was it Tony Hawk was 30.

00:58:30.360 He was in his thirties.

00:58:31.740 He was at the peak of his career, trying this trick for decades.

00:58:34.360 The bird man, they called him.

00:58:35.640 And it was a little boy who landed the first, a bigger trick than Tony Hawk.

00:58:40.680 Why do they call Tony Hawk, the bird man?

00:58:42.980 Cause he's lanky.

00:58:43.800 He's tall and skinny.

00:58:44.700 No, it's cause his last name's Hawk. 1.00

00:58:46.380 You moron. 1.00

00:58:47.220 Sure. 1.00

00:58:47.480 Sure.

00:58:48.060 A combination of these things.

00:58:49.180 But, but here's my point.

00:58:51.180 How is it that a prepubescent boy did one of the greatest tricks, setting a standard,

00:58:57.560 making history in skateboarding.

00:58:59.340 Where is any 12 year old girl doing anything comparable?

00:59:02.920 So I am not saying girls shouldn't skate or girls are bad.

00:59:06.280 There are many young, uh, Sky Adams, I think is that her name, right?

00:59:08.740 Uh, Sky Brown.

00:59:09.640 Sky Brown.

00:59:10.100 Sorry.

00:59:10.420 All the women that won the Olympics were like 13 year old girls. 1.00

00:59:13.380 Yeah.

00:59:13.560 That's right.

00:59:14.320 Yeah.

00:59:14.760 Brazil and Japan.

00:59:15.260 So, and they're doing well, but they are not setting historic standards in skateboarding.

00:59:20.440 So you, you've also, you, you also had, um, the first ever, um, 10 80 on a vert ramp,

00:59:26.440 I think was Guy Curry.

00:59:27.960 Was he nine, nine years old?

00:59:29.820 Something like that.

00:59:30.700 I think it, listen, it's a smaller object.

00:59:33.460 So it spins faster.

00:59:34.400 It's as simple as that.

00:59:35.540 I, but then have the weight for the inertia.

00:59:38.480 It's so.

00:59:39.680 Are we going to get into Galilean physics right here?

00:59:41.540 Yes.

00:59:41.680 Absolutely not.

00:59:42.260 So, uh, the first 10 80 ever done was done on what's called a mega ramp.

00:59:46.460 It's massive.

00:59:47.780 You have a 70 foot launch that, and you're going like, what, what do they go like 50

00:59:52.440 miles an hour when they're doing it?

00:59:53.560 And then you go up a 20 foot wall.

00:59:55.920 So you have a lot of time to get that spin.

00:59:59.300 The first ever done on a standard half pipe, which is like probably 12 to 13 feet was done

01:00:04.100 by a nine year old boy.

01:00:05.000 How is it that pre-bubescent boys are at a massive skill level above setting standards

01:00:11.400 well above their female counterparts because males and females are different in skateboarding. 0.93

01:00:15.440 That doesn't mean there's not.

01:00:16.360 They're different even at younger ages, even as children, there's different stages of puberty

01:00:21.440 that kids go through before like the main puberty.

01:00:25.780 Right.

01:00:26.300 And, but more importantly, prenatal testosterone plays a role in this.

01:00:29.480 Yeah.

01:00:29.620 That's a nine year old boy putting the right words to it, right?

01:00:32.900 Nine year old boy has more collagen, more bone density, more muscle mass, even before

01:00:37.000 puberty.

01:00:37.880 And so there are a nine year old boy and a nine year old girl are skating at different

01:00:41.820 levels.

01:00:42.140 That doesn't mean you will not have, I mean, uh, I don't know that, that young girl's

01:00:46.840 name who's doing the kickflip front blunt, big spin out.

01:00:49.380 If, if, if the only thing you need to take away from that is the, the, uh, verbose nature

01:00:54.040 of that name will help you understand that it is a complicated.

01:00:56.660 If I said person did kickflip single word.

01:00:59.280 If I say kickflip front blunt, big spin out, like a lot of, a lot of words just basically

01:01:04.960 could mean, wow, that's crazy.

01:01:07.820 It's a very good trick.

01:01:08.840 I forgot who we're talking to your audience at this moment.

01:01:11.700 Like when I see them comment on your skating and they go, they go, wow.

01:01:15.600 Like, I don't know.

01:01:16.760 Well, they say, I can't believe he has legs.

01:01:18.260 First of all, that seems to be the main thing.

01:01:19.820 They're like, I've only seen him from the waist up.

01:01:21.860 Um, and the other thing was like, yeah, I used to play the video game.

01:01:25.240 Go Tim.

01:01:26.340 So I don't know how many skaters are watching.

01:01:28.040 There are a lot actually, uh, and there are a lot of people who used to skate.

01:01:32.060 Right.

01:01:32.240 Right.

01:01:32.380 And so there are a lot of people who, who, who understand this being somebody who's, I've

01:01:36.220 been skating since I was 13.

01:01:37.700 I'm going on 25 years, basically of skateboarding.

01:01:41.020 Um, I've seen, I've seen some ish in my day.

01:01:44.880 And when I see this stuff happening with males competing against females, I'm like, dude,

01:01:48.480 they are just basically taking away the option for women to compete. 0.88

01:01:51.300 If, if this persists and we move, we move forward in this way, it may not be the end of female 0.98

01:01:58.240 competition, but it will be the decimation of when you look at the Olympics, let's go

01:02:03.740 back to, uh, uh, the Soviet union.

01:02:05.920 Remember that big scandal, the females competing in the Olympics from the Soviet union were all 1.00

01:02:09.980 super ripped and hopped up on hormones and drugs because they were like, it's going to

01:02:14.700 make, you know, Hey, if it's just got to be female, then we'll give them a bunch of drugs. 1.00

01:02:17.780 Do you not think North Korea or any of these countries that wants to win will not care?

01:02:23.500 They're not going to, they're not, there's not going to be some kind of like scruples

01:02:26.460 or, or threat to their honor, North Korea and other communist China.

01:02:30.880 They're not going to say like, well, hold on, hold on.

01:02:33.340 We want to be fair to the spirit of the competition.

01:02:36.460 They're going to say, how do we win?

01:02:37.740 Well, if we have a male athlete at the top level who says they're a female and fits these

01:02:42.220 criteria, then we're allowed to do it.

01:02:44.120 And they're like, okay, well, on average, we see these, they're going to do better and we're

01:02:46.620 going to win.

01:02:46.900 Okay, let's do that.

01:02:48.820 So how, how will you have, this is what's going to trickle down to when you have the Olympics,

01:02:54.140 I think was very bad for skateboarding.

01:02:55.700 I don't like the Olympics.

01:02:57.280 What happens is once there is an opportunity to complete, compete in the Olympic level,

01:03:01.480 it turns the sport into a, into a mechanizes it.

01:03:05.500 I think so.

01:03:06.220 Yeah.

01:03:06.760 So I know gymnasts, what were their lives?

01:03:10.100 The moment they were born, they said, this person will be in the Olympics as a toddler.

01:03:15.980 They're being made to watch the Olympics.

01:03:17.940 They're doing very little, like very light as they get older, they're teaching them something

01:03:22.160 like, you know, rolling on the ground and do cartwheels.

01:03:24.160 By the time they're five, they're doing all of these Olympics.

01:03:27.020 Like I should say gymnastics.

01:03:29.020 And then everyday training, nonstop, strict diets. 0.99

01:03:32.680 Holy crap. 0.79

01:03:33.740 I had a friend who was like, I could not eat anything. 0.96

01:03:36.960 I might, like I was, I would be pulled out of lunch for school and made to eat a strict

01:03:41.600 special diet to make sure there's no chemicals, that it's organic, that it's the right protein

01:03:46.640 bounce.

01:03:47.080 They get their blood tested.

01:03:48.920 They say, okay, here's what your body needs.

01:03:50.920 Your blood is at this levels because we are talking about the top tier.

01:03:54.720 Ain't nobody going to let a kid eat a ho-ho or Twinkie. 1.00

01:03:56.800 At the same time, who was that ice skating chick that took out her opponent's kneecaps? 1.00

01:04:00.840 That was an Olympic though.

01:04:02.240 That was Tanya Harding?

01:04:03.600 Yeah.

01:04:03.800 Tanya Harding.

01:04:04.420 Like, do you think people are going to start getting like that?

01:04:06.680 Oof.

01:04:07.040 I don't know about that, but what I can say is.

01:04:10.620 Well, did she do it or was it like her.

01:04:13.140 She put her cronies up to it. 1.00

01:04:14.320 Was it her.

01:04:14.660 No, I think she did it.

01:04:15.460 Is she like.

01:04:15.760 Husband or ex or something.

01:04:17.100 It was some weird guys that she hired to do it.

01:04:19.020 I think it was like the guy she was with, but.

01:04:22.300 I mean, that would disappoint me.

01:04:23.820 That hasn't happened in skating yet, but if somebody starts slipping stuff into drinks

01:04:27.720 or maybe like.

01:04:29.060 Feminizing that country.

01:04:29.880 I think it might be a bit of a mystery whether she was behind it or not.

01:04:33.660 Her ex-husband.

01:04:34.760 There we go.

01:04:35.400 Wait, wait, when her ex-husband Jeff Gilloui orchestrated an attack on her fellow Nancy

01:04:41.100 Kerrigan.

01:04:41.760 Yeah, that's right.

01:04:42.560 Kerrigan.

01:04:43.120 She did a conspiracy to hinder. 0.94

01:04:44.340 Poor girl. 1.00

01:04:44.820 She just got kneecapped. 1.00

01:04:46.020 Yeah. 0.81

01:04:46.880 Banned for life.

01:04:47.860 Crazy story.

01:04:48.800 Well, I mean.

01:04:49.560 She went on to become a professional boxer. 0.98

01:04:51.740 Oh, yeah.

01:04:52.520 I saw the movie about that with Margot Robbie.

01:04:55.940 Wait, was it Margot Robbie who played her?

01:04:58.160 Yeah.

01:04:58.400 Geez.

01:04:58.960 Yeah, that was super good.

01:04:59.600 It's been a while.

01:05:00.360 There also hasn't been an assassination in skateboarding.

01:05:02.920 So if anybody's looking to do the first, I don't, I don't, but let's be, let's, let's

01:05:08.020 be real.

01:05:08.320 I don't know that that's true.

01:05:09.400 Oh, you think there might've been?

01:05:10.460 Well, I mean, they're just unknown unknowns.

01:05:13.200 A lot of people assassinating themselves.

01:05:14.900 But also, also like assassination typically refers to someone of political merit.

01:05:19.480 You know what I mean?

01:05:20.040 So skaters have a lot of political.

01:05:21.660 Richie, I'm sorry.

01:05:22.700 If someone killed you, it would just be murder.

01:05:26.120 I don't know though.

01:05:26.860 I mean, considering now entering the fray with politics in this space, I think, so yeah,

01:05:33.540 typically the word assassinated implies some kind of significant political relevance.

01:05:38.840 So I think if Taylor was killed, it would be an assassination.

01:05:42.260 Oh, great. 0.95

01:05:43.160 But maybe you're like, I'm a liar.

01:05:44.200 That makes me feel so important.

01:05:45.440 I'm not saying it's going to happen, guys.

01:05:47.300 Calm down.

01:05:47.900 Do you know what it's called if you murder somebody that's part of the royal family, the

01:05:52.460 monarch?

01:05:52.960 A regissite.

01:05:53.560 Regissite.

01:05:54.480 We went.

01:05:55.700 That's a Simpsons joke.

01:05:56.480 That is.

01:05:56.860 When we went skating in DC one time, Tim was like, do you want a vest?

01:06:01.120 And I was like, no, I don't want a vest.

01:06:02.860 That was when we publicly announced we were going to be in this location weeks in advance

01:06:07.220 and told everyone to come.

01:06:08.720 And I said, it would be kind of funny if we were skating in bulletproof vests.

01:06:12.760 And then we decided not to do it.

01:06:13.620 It's like nothing's going to happen.

01:06:15.180 Well, they're pretty heavy.

01:06:16.120 It's hard to skate in a bulletproof vests.

01:06:17.640 But it would be fun to like, you know, skate around.

01:06:19.520 They're heavy.

01:06:20.220 They're like 30 some pounds.

01:06:21.020 We should go skate in DC again, though.

01:06:22.200 Bring the crew out.

01:06:22.940 That was fun.

01:06:23.780 It was cold then, though.

01:06:25.440 We had to do it once it's warm.

01:06:27.220 So here's the funny thing about what happened with Washington, DC and these people who were

01:06:31.800 like, oh, no, it's Tim Pool.

01:06:34.700 You know, two of these individuals were following me around the plaza.

01:06:39.900 It's the weirdest thing.

01:06:41.180 So it's like I'm sitting down.

01:06:43.740 They sit down 10 feet away and then start posting messages, insulting me and claiming

01:06:49.420 I'm working with people I met one time.

01:06:51.720 So I moved to the side of the park.

01:06:53.360 They moved to.

01:06:53.860 I start skating a different area.

01:06:55.880 They start skating the same area.

01:06:56.780 I'm like, what are these people doing?

01:06:58.800 Did they actually approach you or say anything?

01:07:01.100 Yeah, figures.

01:07:02.360 They just hovered around me.

01:07:03.900 I think I think.

01:07:04.880 I feel like a lot of these people.

01:07:07.740 Well, the reality is they're there.

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01:08:35.640 Uh, man, if you suck at skateboarding, you try as hard as you can, you can't get it.

01:08:45.060 Maybe your path towards some kind of prominence is the easiest thing is victimization in politics. 0.60

01:08:50.420 It's like sour grapes combined with politics.

01:08:52.540 Don't drop the J word, but here it comes. 0.99

01:08:54.580 It's just plain old jealousy.

01:08:57.300 Jealousy.

01:08:57.680 I think that's a big reason people come after you.

01:08:59.640 They're like, how did he do it?

01:09:01.200 How did he become successful?

01:09:02.920 Why not me?

01:09:03.680 This is my favorite part of this whole thing is that when I was skating in Washington,

01:09:08.960 D.C., you, you, you, you, you, you showed me this, Richie, actually, they, they were

01:09:13.560 claiming I could not do a pop shove it.

01:09:15.480 Now, hold on, hold on.

01:09:16.760 But I don't know.

01:09:17.160 A lot of people are like, I have no idea what that means.

01:09:18.440 It is when you are standing on your board, you jump, the board spins halfway around,

01:09:25.700 like it spins around one time or it's, it's a 180 degree spin.

01:09:29.160 And then you land back on it.

01:09:31.300 I learned that when I was 13.

01:09:32.760 In fact, it was the first thing I learned how to do because ollies were hard.

01:09:37.540 So to be fair, I could do an ollie is when you jump.

01:09:40.860 I could ollie like a couple inches when I first got it, but standing in the grass and jumping

01:09:45.300 to make your board spin is a different motion.

01:09:47.600 And I, and I learned that very quickly.

01:09:49.520 Why would they lie?

01:09:50.500 Why would they lie about my skill level when I was skating in front of everybody?

01:09:56.600 And I'm going to, without explaining any of the tricks, good luck figuring these out.

01:10:00.600 You can Google them.

01:10:01.560 One of the first things I did when I rolled up was a nollie gazelle, nollie backside gazelle.

01:10:05.320 I did a fakie 540 big flip.

01:10:06.860 But, and then they go online and say, Tim Poole could not do a pop shove it.

01:10:10.400 It's happened to me.

01:10:11.040 Um, I've read similar stuff like, that guy showed up to the skate park, tried to do

01:10:15.540 a tray flip for eight hours, couldn't do it, and went home crying.

01:10:18.960 It's like, well, it never happened, but that doesn't seem to matter to you.

01:10:21.820 That's happened to me before.

01:10:22.980 Yeah.

01:10:23.360 But this is odd, isn't it?

01:10:24.600 Back here's the thing, I've never done that.

01:10:25.980 I've never gone like, you know, I saw Dennis Wilford at the park today.

01:10:28.940 I was hiding in the bushes.

01:10:30.300 This guy was hanging out for at least 10 hours.

01:10:33.680 Couldn't land a thing.

01:10:34.420 It's just weird to do.

01:10:36.440 I think.

01:10:37.220 Well, it's the same reason they lie about everything.

01:10:38.980 They want to like decredit you somehow.

01:10:41.600 Well, this is my point.

01:10:43.760 They cannot allow someone like me to be good at skateboarding because they're trying to

01:10:50.020 take culture over. 0.93

01:10:51.780 So this is why they do ads where a person is doing something trash.

01:10:55.600 It's like, oh, it's a slappy.

01:10:56.940 Like, well, let's make an advertisement for it.

01:10:58.400 It's like, what?

01:10:58.900 Like that, like you see that every five seconds, like little kids do that.

01:11:03.360 Why make a magazine?

01:11:04.540 You know, I spend 20 grand on that.

01:11:06.600 They want to control the culture. 0.88

01:11:09.340 They want to take away.

01:11:10.920 And so if someone like me who is not a pro skateboarder says, hey, here's what I think

01:11:15.580 about politics and who you should vote for, blah, blah, blah.

01:11:17.260 Also, also, by the way, like here's a video of me doing an NBD.

01:11:20.620 Never been done.

01:11:21.360 I'm pretty sure I'm the first person ever to do a hang 10 hard flip late flip.

01:11:24.480 And we got it on.

01:11:25.340 I did it like eight years ago, but now we've got one on camera that I just did the other

01:11:28.740 day.

01:11:29.020 And oh, there are going to be young people who want to learn how to skate are going to 0.98

01:11:34.220 go, holy crap. 0.98

01:11:35.620 Wow. 1.00

01:11:35.920 That trick was crazy.

01:11:37.560 That gives me some kind of like if the merit that is still a part of sports, that's a threat

01:11:43.020 to them that I'm better than them at skateboarding and may command more influence.

01:11:46.960 They need to control the machine and control the narrative and lie about whether or not.

01:11:52.900 Well, I mean, I'll be honest.

01:11:54.720 I think I don't like any vicious attack on anybody's skill level or style.

01:12:00.920 I agree.

01:12:01.440 And that seemed to be the floodgates were open on that.

01:12:05.160 Like you're an excellent skateboarder.

01:12:07.320 Some of the stuff they're saying about you, these people that go, you know, I'm all about

01:12:10.560 tolerance, inclusivity, and we're all here for a good time.

01:12:12.800 And screw Tim Pool. 0.99

01:12:15.160 This is disgusting. 0.99

01:12:16.140 And same with you, Taylor. 1.00

01:12:17.740 They're like, this is garbage. 0.99

01:12:19.000 And it's like, hold on a minute. 0.99

01:12:20.260 A second ago, you were preaching inclusivity and it's all fair and everybody's having a

01:12:24.560 good shot and everybody's enjoying themselves, except for you.

01:12:27.680 And I find that odd.

01:12:29.820 One thing they hate on that I like freestyle skating, but freestyle is like the history

01:12:36.300 of skateboarding.

01:12:37.460 I think it's awesome.

01:12:38.900 And I think a lot of the stuff that I do freestyle, they can't do.

01:12:43.960 Well, of course.

01:12:44.460 Like the people hating on like the Primo side video.

01:12:47.200 They can't Primo side.

01:12:48.360 This person who is talking smack couldn't do a big spin.

01:12:51.200 And I'm just like, well, hold on, hold on.

01:12:52.880 Like I'm sitting here minding my own business.

01:12:54.280 I don't know you.

01:12:54.940 I don't care about you.

01:12:56.260 Leave me alone.

01:12:57.000 I've never met you before.

01:12:58.200 I have no issue with you.

01:12:59.380 I don't care.

01:12:59.980 You're following me around the park, trying to do a big spin.

01:13:04.460 To clarify, big spins are a little bit more advanced in the shove it, but still pretty

01:13:09.420 easy for anybody.

01:13:11.140 And I'm like, why is this person posting pictures of me, taking secret pictures of me and my 0.92

01:13:15.500 girlfriend, posting, watch out, a white supremacist is here. 0.97

01:13:18.700 Going online and trying to get people fired. 0.96

01:13:21.020 It's odd.

01:13:21.620 Chasing me around, unable to do one of the most basic and easy tricks.

01:13:26.700 They could not do it.

01:13:27.520 I guess something I've noticed is people that tend to be able to do it are not going to comment

01:13:32.360 like that.

01:13:32.720 I can't imagine Rodney Mullen sitting down and going, well, that was quite terrible execution

01:13:37.980 and you should never come to the spot again.

01:13:40.480 Tony Hawk's not saying that.

01:13:41.960 And this is the one word I hate the most is people go irrelevant, irrelevant, irrelevant.

01:13:46.420 Have you noticed that relevant people don't use the word irrelevant?

01:13:49.600 Yeah.

01:13:49.780 They simply, it's not in their vernacular.

01:13:51.480 I think it's sour grapes.

01:13:52.720 Yeah.

01:13:53.020 I think here you have someone who is bad at skateboarding, who wishes they were better.

01:13:57.160 They see someone like me and they're like, I'm angry.

01:14:01.860 This person is better than me.

01:14:02.920 They shouldn't be.

01:14:04.080 What can I do to hurt them?

01:14:05.920 Which is odd.

01:14:06.760 It seems antithetical to the spirit of skateboarding.

01:14:09.960 Agreed.

01:14:10.500 Yeah.

01:14:10.840 There is, and this is, I know we're very much like in the skateboarding track, but this

01:14:15.320 is everything.

01:14:16.360 You name it, video games, card games, movies, comics, basketball, you know?

01:14:22.480 So why is everybody turning evil?

01:14:25.580 Why can't we all just get along?

01:14:27.380 They're not turning evil.

01:14:28.020 They've always been evil.

01:14:29.600 They're just getting really comfortable doing it publicly.

01:14:33.180 You think this is the core of human nature rearing its ugly head and showing itself now

01:14:36.460 that it's permissible?

01:14:37.400 No, I think it's a small percentage of people, but good people do nothing.

01:14:40.840 And all that is required for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

01:14:43.920 That's almost the worst problem.

01:14:45.620 Yeah. 0.98

01:14:45.740 It's like, if people just sit back and let shit happen, it doesn't get resolved. 0.66

01:14:51.780 And then it creates this illusion that everybody actually agrees with the bad stuff that's 0.97

01:14:56.120 happening.

01:14:56.480 So what you're saying is the answer is violence.

01:14:58.800 No, no.

01:14:59.680 But it's people like having a, having a spine.

01:15:03.720 But what harm is violence ever going on?

01:15:05.140 That was Kathy Newman.

01:15:06.120 That was your, that was your Kathy Newman.

01:15:07.980 Remember when she was interviewing Jordan Peterson and he's just like, you know, some

01:15:11.640 people are mean. 0.94

01:15:12.360 And then she's like, so what you're saying is you hate women. 0.89

01:15:13.820 He's like, what?

01:15:15.040 I didn't say that at all.

01:15:16.520 You do a pretty good Jordan Peterson.

01:15:18.420 No, it's my day off.

01:15:20.060 Leave me alone.

01:15:20.820 I met Jordan Peterson in DC, ran into him.

01:15:24.040 Oh, that's cool.

01:15:24.460 He was like, oh, you work for Timcast.

01:15:26.060 It's a very dangerous company.

01:15:27.320 Dangerous.

01:15:29.820 Also, shout out to Mr. Peterson for backing skateboarders.

01:15:33.180 Oh yeah.

01:15:33.300 He's a fan.

01:15:34.680 Yeah.

01:15:34.920 Yeah.

01:15:35.140 What'd he say?

01:15:35.480 Don't bother kids when they're skateboarding.

01:15:36.560 Don't bother kids when they're skateboarding, man.

01:15:38.500 It's one of his rules for life.

01:15:39.840 He was, he was like bummed that they were kicking kids out from skating handrails.

01:15:45.660 Yeah.

01:15:46.920 Look, man, I own a business.

01:15:48.280 I totally get it.

01:15:49.200 And that's why the security guard stuff and skateboarding pisses me off.

01:15:52.300 And I'm just like, dude, you have like, when I see skateboarders fight with security

01:15:56.980 guards, it's, it's so bad for skateboarding and it's so bad for the business.

01:16:01.200 And I'm just like all around the worst thing you can do.

01:16:03.940 I'm going to say something controversial.

01:16:05.360 I think go skateboarding day is a terrible idea.

01:16:08.740 Why do you, that's June 21st.

01:16:10.500 Why do you say it's better?

01:16:11.200 Because you release a horde of teenagers in the streets who are going to destroy everything 0.99

01:16:16.160 in sight.

01:16:16.660 I know what it was like to be that age.

01:16:18.140 You want to just tear everything apart and they do.

01:16:20.460 And this is the message we're putting out there.

01:16:22.300 Like if you allow us to assemble on mass, we will destroy the city.

01:16:26.620 Go skate day is fun.

01:16:27.740 You stop.

01:16:28.040 I know.

01:16:28.600 You stop it.

01:16:29.280 But man, don't you think people are paying attention going like, well, okay.

01:16:33.280 They should get out of our way.

01:16:34.540 Yeah.

01:16:34.740 All right.

01:16:35.400 All right.

01:16:36.120 Here, I'll tell you, I'll tell you guys one thing, right?

01:16:38.140 So you have a teenager skating a stair set or a handrail at a building.

01:16:42.180 Security guard says, you got to leave.

01:16:43.960 Kid says, no.

01:16:46.240 Everyone tries to play this game of, oh, I would never sue, man.

01:16:50.080 I accept, it doesn't matter.

01:16:51.780 There, there have been a bunch of instances.

01:16:53.120 So I had a friend who was, uh, at another friend's house skating in his driveway.

01:16:57.980 Okay.

01:16:58.520 Two teenagers, teenager, a let's just call him Bill.

01:17:02.880 And let's call the other guy, Rick.

01:17:04.560 Bill goes to Rick's house.

01:17:06.640 Bill falls down in the driveway and breaks his arm.

01:17:09.500 Bill says, I'll take care of it.

01:17:12.040 He's like 16.

01:17:12.920 Bill goes home.

01:17:14.020 Bill's parents sue Rick's family.

01:17:16.440 Rick's family loses.

01:17:17.140 And the kids are like, dude, why, why are your parents doing this?

01:17:22.780 Doesn't matter.

01:17:23.460 The parents decided the parents said they should not have allowed you to do it.

01:17:27.080 Their driveway was bad.

01:17:28.520 You got her on their property. 0.77

01:17:29.780 They're responsible.

01:17:31.040 They have to pay for it.

01:17:32.180 Rick's family says, we didn't even know he was doing it.

01:17:34.440 We didn't tell him he could do it.

01:17:36.180 He came over to hang out.

01:17:37.180 So this is what happens with businesses.

01:17:38.740 Some kid will be like, I'm going to skate here.

01:17:40.800 The kid falls and gets hurts.

01:17:42.200 The parent call, the parents file a lawsuit against the business.

01:17:44.920 The business has to pay for it.

01:17:45.740 Is this a math equation?

01:17:46.720 How many bills does Bill end up with?

01:17:48.840 Well, how about.

01:17:49.340 That's right.

01:17:49.740 How many cases can you actually find that somebody really sued a business for skateboarding?

01:17:53.200 Because I wager few.

01:17:55.740 Probably too many.

01:17:57.320 And the other issue is it's not even about suing.

01:17:59.140 It's about the business may have its insurance revoked if the security guard did not.

01:18:05.180 I'm willing to bet the only reason, like I'm willing to bet there's probably in the hundreds

01:18:10.140 of circumstances where a business had a security guard.

01:18:13.740 The guy said one more time, security guard said, okay, that security guy got fired.

01:18:19.460 No question.

01:18:20.960 Like business insurance is so incredibly difficult to get.

01:18:24.340 And you have crazy rules and contractual obligations to maintain it.

01:18:27.960 That if a security guard says yes, the insurance company is going to say, you have to find that

01:18:31.920 security guard.

01:18:32.400 Otherwise, we're canceling your insurance.

01:18:33.720 They'll say, okay.

01:18:34.500 They say, hey, you're fired.

01:18:35.200 You let him skate.

01:18:36.060 And so that's why a lot of security guards will be like, no way.

01:18:39.020 And they'll actually get in front of the skater and try and stop them.

01:18:41.700 I'm also willing to bet there are many businesses who had their insurance revoked because they

01:18:45.720 didn't have a security guard trying to stop the skaters.

01:18:48.180 So people don't understand business insurance is nuts.

01:18:51.300 And in some instances, it's even legally required.

01:18:54.420 This is why security guards are like, you can't do it.

01:18:56.740 This is like the machine is a crazy beast.

01:18:59.620 They're just trying to do their jobs.

01:19:01.340 They're not trying to ruin your day.

01:19:02.480 But you ever met some of them are like, I've gotten hurt before skating at spots like as

01:19:09.520 a teenager.

01:19:10.160 And then I get home and all that happens is my dad grounds me.

01:19:12.940 He doesn't try to like sue a business.

01:19:14.900 But it's but it's like.

01:19:16.980 What's what's the percentage?

01:19:18.440 Does it require a lawsuit?

01:19:19.920 And will the insurance company pull their support like pull the insurance of the company

01:19:23.460 over it?

01:19:24.720 So a couple of things can happen, too.

01:19:27.000 Let's say you have a not every not every skate spot.

01:19:30.480 Is a massive multinational corporate building.

01:19:33.540 It could actually be a small business where the building's worth a couple hundred thousand

01:19:36.620 dollars and it's a mom and pop shop.

01:19:38.260 Some kids are skating a stair set in front.

01:19:40.300 Some kid falls and hits his head.

01:19:41.700 Parents don't sue.

01:19:42.500 Insurance company finds out and they say, because you're not maintaining security of the premises,

01:19:47.180 we're revoking your insurance.

01:19:48.760 Now that now they're like, we can't.

01:19:50.380 That's it. 0.98

01:19:50.640 We're screwed. 0.98

01:19:51.420 We're out of business. 0.91

01:19:52.540 So this is why typically they're like, stay off my property.

01:19:55.820 So you think a big danger to mom and pop store is going out of business?

01:20:00.480 Is people skateboarding and them losing their insurance as a result?

01:20:03.420 I'd say the bigger danger was COVID.

01:20:06.000 Well, for sure.

01:20:06.720 But my point is, don't be surprised when they're like, stop what you're doing.

01:20:11.300 And then these gamers are like, who cares, man?

01:20:13.020 It's like, what do you think?

01:20:13.720 I think it is different with a mom and pop, though, because you might actually respect 0.99

01:20:16.260 them when it's a bank and some asshole security guard who literally wants to fight you off 0.99

01:20:20.000 rip. 1.00

01:20:20.340 It's like, yeah, come get it.

01:20:21.680 Except you don't you don't you don't know what a mom and pop looks like.

01:20:24.640 Yeah, it's not the security guard.

01:20:26.220 People are making assumptions that all mom and pops are going to be like some little rinky

01:20:29.700 corner store.

01:20:30.400 No way, dude.

01:20:30.920 So Bank of America, that's mom and pop, right?

01:20:32.540 No, but Burger King could be.

01:20:34.160 It is?

01:20:34.860 Burger King's franchise.

01:20:35.420 That's a monarchy.

01:20:36.780 Burger King is a franchise.

01:20:38.680 So in Oakland, for instance, there's a Burger King that this has been, you know, eight years

01:20:42.780 that I've been there.

01:20:43.480 It's a Burger King with a big sign in the window saying, please do not hurt us.

01:20:47.920 This is owned by a family.

01:20:49.640 Wow.

01:20:49.940 Because a guy says it like, I don't want to work for the man anymore.

01:20:54.140 So he you contact the Burger King franchise corporation.

01:20:56.740 They say for $10,000, we'll give you the starter kit.

01:20:59.400 He invests his life savings, puts his house up as collateral, gets a loan and opens a single

01:21:03.500 Burger King restaurant.

01:21:04.660 And then a bunch of crackpot extremist leftists show it's a Burger King's a corporate store

01:21:09.460 and they smash the window out.

01:21:11.420 These people don't get it.

01:21:12.460 And so there there's also it could be a storefront in a mate in a very large building.

01:21:19.440 Let's say it's a strip mall and it is a rental spot where they're responsible for the sidewalk

01:21:24.060 in front of the store and which includes the stairs.

01:21:27.300 And when they rent the property, they say you will maintain the the the property, including

01:21:32.200 the walkway in front of your location in Chicago.

01:21:34.180 Actually, this is funny.

01:21:35.720 You are legally required to you are legally liable for the sidewalk in front of your home,

01:21:40.800 despite the fact the sidewalk is owned by the city.

01:21:42.920 So if you don't shovel the snow and someone slips and falls, your fault.

01:21:47.360 Mom and mom and pop, let's say they're in their 40s, say we're going to open our very

01:21:51.500 first arts and crafts store.

01:21:54.020 They're in a strip mall.

01:21:54.900 The strip mall has a small set of stairs and a railing in front of it.

01:21:57.160 And a kid goes to start skating.

01:21:58.360 It falls and gets hurt.

01:21:59.180 It said the strip mall owner says you broke your contract.

01:22:02.600 You are not maintaining the property.

01:22:04.020 You are responsible for these kids in front of it.

01:22:06.240 I know we put up no skateboarding signs, but you should have stopped them.

01:22:09.120 We're not going to renew your lease.

01:22:10.320 Things like that.

01:22:11.260 Right.

01:22:11.340 I'm not saying it's ubiquitous.

01:22:12.560 I think 99% of the time skateboarders going out and skating is going to result in nothing.

01:22:17.640 And people are mostly like, this stuff doesn't happen.

01:22:20.200 But my point is simply that.

01:22:21.880 I've done terrible things.

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01:23:52.480 At people's businesses?

01:23:54.120 Yeah, man.

01:23:54.940 So one time we were in Barcelona, right?

01:23:58.000 And there's this perfect, essentially a swimming pool, but it's out the front of a defunct restaurant.

01:24:04.060 And I put all these foam pads on there so I could do the Jesus lizard and run across the water with my board in my hand.

01:24:10.380 And I was so close and I was getting away with it.

01:24:12.340 But then a guy came down.

01:24:13.600 I didn't know, but I was peeing against the building and he noticed me.

01:24:17.520 But he looked like a tycoon.

01:24:19.260 Like he had a cigar and a very nice suit and white hair.

01:24:22.640 He was like, no, he was like a, how would you describe him?

01:24:25.960 He was a baron.

01:24:27.360 Yeah, but a Spanish baron.

01:24:30.500 And yeah, I was like, I had a moment of like, wait, what am I doing?

01:24:34.400 Like, look at what I've got set up, all these things across here.

01:24:37.900 You know, it was just an absurd moment.

01:24:39.780 And he was like, you need to leave.

01:24:41.460 I'm trying to reopen my restaurant.

01:24:42.620 I'm like, you're probably right.

01:24:44.020 Like I should pack up and go.

01:24:45.040 You know, we've had instances where people, I've talked about when I was working as a manager for a band, I'm at a venue and I want to go backstage.

01:24:57.660 Now, here's the thing.

01:24:58.620 I was managing a band and the organizers did not give the band all access passes, which was personally insulting to us as we needed to use the backstage area.

01:25:07.680 Nope.

01:25:08.580 Supervised entry and exit.

01:25:09.800 You can play your set and get out.

01:25:10.920 And I'm like, no, no, no, hold on all of the bands, they get to hang out, eat fruit and have drinks.

01:25:15.660 Why are we getting the shaft?

01:25:17.360 So I went backstage.

01:25:18.540 I walked backstage.

01:25:19.400 I said, you know, and what I did was I first thing I did, I just tried walking past the security guard.

01:25:25.460 Here's here's my thing.

01:25:26.440 Unless someone says my name, they ain't talking to me.

01:25:28.620 So he's he's by the stairs.

01:25:30.260 I walk right past him and he goes, yo, hey, yo.

01:25:32.840 And I just keep walking.

01:25:33.700 And then he goes, hey, man.

01:25:34.620 And then he runs at the stairs or it was only like five, five stairs in the curve.

01:25:38.800 So he turns around, goes up a couple on that says, yo, dude.

01:25:41.260 And I'm like, OK, he got he got.

01:25:42.800 And I'm like, what?

01:25:43.960 And he was like, where's your pass?

01:25:45.420 And I was like, dude, I'm working.

01:25:46.800 Come on.

01:25:47.500 And he's like, no, bro, no pass.

01:25:48.760 You can't come.

01:25:49.180 Come on, come down. 0.99

01:25:49.720 And I'm like, so I walk down instantly, immediately walk, start walking through the crowd.

01:25:54.680 And I see a guy with a camera.

01:25:55.560 And I was like, hey, bro, you want to go backstage?

01:25:57.160 And he goes, sure.

01:25:58.500 I'm like, come with me.

01:25:59.680 We this is like a minute later.

01:26:01.280 We then walk past him again.

01:26:02.800 And he goes, bro, I said no.

01:26:03.960 I was like, dude, I'm working.

01:26:04.940 And I point to the camera guy and he goes, oh, I'm sorry.

01:26:07.240 I'm sorry, dude.

01:26:07.780 Right, right, right.

01:26:08.280 Then I go backstage.

01:26:09.260 One of the guys from the other band, I tell him like MFers didn't give my band any of the

01:26:13.540 passes.

01:26:14.060 They gave us wristbands, which were family room access.

01:26:16.980 And he goes, oh, and he hands me a pass.

01:26:18.700 Of course.

01:26:19.100 Now, here's the thing.

01:26:20.960 Me telling that story is very different from we've had people try sneaking onto our property

01:26:25.680 into events.

01:26:26.220 And I'm like, that's a good way to get seriously hurt.

01:26:29.280 Because there are people who think I can I can you know, I hate so much is what is it

01:26:36.640 is they say it's better to ask for forgiveness and permission.

01:26:39.420 Not with me, dude.

01:26:41.100 No way.

01:26:41.720 Like not when we're swatted 15 times when we have death threats, you think like I'm going

01:26:45.480 to come on this property and then ask for forgiveness later.

01:26:47.300 I mean, maybe your parents can ask for forgiveness after a security guard seriously injures you

01:26:50.820 or something in the hospital.

01:26:51.860 If you if you commit burglary coming into the property thinking like, oh, just ask for forgiveness

01:26:55.840 later, it's like, well, after my security guard intercepts you and applies, you know,

01:26:59.500 their legal right to defend the property.

01:27:01.260 So my point here is just.

01:27:03.640 You got it.

01:27:04.320 You got to know the circumstances, man.

01:27:06.340 Not not everything is just I can do what I want.

01:27:09.240 Skateboarders have this very much fight with security guards mentality.

01:27:12.420 I see these videos on Instagram and I'm like, how does Instagram allow these?

01:27:17.480 It's one thing when it's minor and it's a guy arguing with the security guard and then

01:27:21.320 he throws his board down, hits the stairs and they go, yeah, and then they leave

01:27:23.700 still kind of bad.

01:27:24.800 But there's videos of people like shoving security guards and stuff.

01:27:28.000 And I'm just like, dude, this is so bad.

01:27:29.740 One thing I will say that I really didn't enjoy was like scooter slam Sundays and it

01:27:35.080 was scooters getting annihilated and skateboarders just celebrating it in the comments.

01:27:38.440 Almost like the fact that they're on a different wheeled vehicle makes them not as much of

01:27:43.220 a human.

01:27:44.140 Maybe skateboarders just bad people.

01:27:45.540 Well, I think so.

01:27:46.540 I mean, I'm certain right here, but that was it was evident to me that I'm like, oh,

01:27:50.880 my God, because they're on a scooter, you actually think they're not feeling real pain.

01:27:53.840 And I'm like, this is so strange.

01:27:55.560 By the way, I want to make massive inroads with our new project towards the scooter community.

01:27:59.940 I believe that the elitism that's been separating scooters, rollerbladers, people of different

01:28:05.020 wheeled devices has to come to an end.

01:28:07.040 And I think we've got to come together because elitism isn't working anymore.

01:28:09.720 We need equity in action sports.

01:28:11.740 I think so.

01:28:12.680 Diversity, equity, and inclusivity.

01:28:13.700 I mean, it's the old animal farm, right?

01:28:17.320 Two, four wheels good, two wheels bad, you know, like that's what we're dealing with.

01:28:21.840 And I think we've got to get past that.

01:28:23.680 And yeah, it's like four is the only acceptable number.

01:28:25.620 Yeah, precisely.

01:28:26.460 Bikes, bikes, no good.

01:28:27.540 Rollerblades, they got too many.

01:28:28.560 They got eight.

01:28:29.300 It's insane.

01:28:29.700 Unless the rollerbladers take out the middle wheels and now they got four, but that doesn't

01:28:32.420 count.

01:28:32.660 If any extraterrestrial observer saw this, they would go like, you're fighting over what?

01:28:37.120 The amount of wheels on your device?

01:28:38.680 Like it just wouldn't make any sense.

01:28:39.780 People need bigotry, I guess.

01:28:42.140 Yeah, there's wheeled bigotry, no doubt. 0.82

01:28:43.980 That is the good thing about the project we're working on, which we haven't even mentioned,

01:28:47.100 is called The Boonies.

01:28:49.300 We're going to have our Bettericks situation going on.

01:28:51.800 Precisely.

01:28:52.460 And what does set it apart, though, is that it will have more than skateboarding.

01:28:57.160 The scooter homies going down the 17 stair rails. 0.95

01:29:01.120 Who's that crazy scooter guy?

01:29:02.960 Jussie Carter.

01:29:04.040 Yeah, yeah.

01:29:04.500 He's like the Richie Jackson of scooting.

01:29:05.780 He most certainly is.

01:29:07.280 He's a good buddy.

01:29:08.360 We're going to have him out here.

01:29:09.400 His videos are awesome.

01:29:10.540 They're incredible.

01:29:11.480 I called him the Andy Anderson of scootering when I saw the video.

01:29:15.140 Andy Anderson, you're also invited.

01:29:16.820 Come on.

01:29:17.440 I'm also going to take this opportunity to plug my new podcast called The Richie Jackson

01:29:21.740 Agenda, which is also on The Boonies YouTube.

01:29:24.900 And you can watch it right here.

01:29:27.600 We are investing massively.

01:29:29.560 So let's talk about Martinsburg a little bit.

01:29:31.440 Yeah, what happened there?

01:29:32.060 All right.

01:29:32.640 So we're building these.

01:29:35.780 It was a recent idea.

01:29:37.840 The anti-Times Square in Martinsburg.

01:29:41.520 Martinsburg, West Virginia.

01:29:42.880 It's one of the bigger towns in West Virginia, but it's not very big at all.

01:29:46.580 And it's been on the decline for varying reasons economically.

01:29:51.440 So we like the place.

01:29:54.300 We like West Virginia.

01:29:55.180 It's in the panhandle.

01:29:55.900 It's close to a bunch of major urban metros.

01:29:58.340 And it's a great opportunity for investing if you are not particularly wealthy.

01:30:02.580 So if you know, it's really funny.

01:30:04.420 Let me just for people who don't run their own businesses.

01:30:07.480 How much do you guys think a car dealership makes per month?

01:30:10.840 Just like a run-of-the-mill car dealership, a single car dealership location.

01:30:13.680 A million.

01:30:14.420 You are correct.

01:30:15.300 One million dollars is like a good number for a car dealership.

01:30:19.000 How about that?

01:30:19.560 I win.

01:30:21.020 That's kind of surprising.

01:30:21.960 You're like, wait, wait, hold on.

01:30:23.220 You mean to tell me that car dealership's got two or three million dollars in the bank?

01:30:26.700 I don't expect that.

01:30:27.640 Yeah, of course.

01:30:28.240 Of course.

01:30:28.680 And they pay their staff with it and they do all those things.

01:30:30.680 So a million bucks is not a lot of money to your local car dealership.

01:30:35.280 And I'm not even talking about the assets of the cars themselves.

01:30:38.100 I mean, those are worth another million or whatever.

01:30:39.720 They generate a million bucks in revenue.

01:30:41.700 That's not profit.

01:30:43.000 So when you're looking at even as successful as Tim Gas has been, we still want to find

01:30:47.880 a place that is in need of economic development where we can get lower cost property and things

01:30:51.620 like this.

01:30:52.720 And so we've been looking to buy property to build a skate park and to, you know, expand.

01:30:57.420 And there was, there is a DIY skate park.

01:31:01.080 That means do it yourself.

01:31:02.160 Although that is an incorrect, uh, uh, incorrect phrasing.

01:31:06.160 I, I have only recently discovered a flyer was being passed around the community among

01:31:10.740 skateboarders for which one was passed to me and, uh, basically outlining Martinsburg

01:31:16.720 DIY come skate, no official organization, no owned property, no nothing.

01:31:22.540 It was like a local crew doing a thing.

01:31:24.240 So I was like, Hey, we're going to throw it out a bunch of money.

01:31:26.140 Well, well, as I made the mistake of trying to add to the prize pool, which is unforgivable.

01:31:30.780 Here's here.

01:31:31.260 Here's the mistake made by me.

01:31:33.220 It is not a DIY.

01:31:35.460 The actual circumstance was that this is private property that was, uh, we had been actually

01:31:41.540 looking at because, but we, we couldn't find the, the, it's, it's an interesting story,

01:31:45.540 but I'll keep, I should keep the, I want to keep some privacy for the, for the people

01:31:48.760 involved.

01:31:49.140 So, but, uh, we wanted to buy this.

01:31:51.300 We were looking at other property.

01:31:52.680 And so I assumed it was derelict and some dudes just came and built the thing.

01:31:57.020 Turns out the way they viewed it, these people from Frederick and from Martinsburg, Frederick

01:32:01.660 is 50 miles away.

01:32:02.600 Frederick, Maryland is that it was a private park they owned and no one else had permission

01:32:07.320 to be a part of without their explicit permission.

01:32:10.160 Once I discovered that I said, okay, we're not going to be involved, but we were actively

01:32:14.120 trying to buy the property.

01:32:15.480 Why?

01:32:15.700 Uh, it's five, it's four and a half acres of concrete covered property.

01:32:20.940 That concrete is probably worth millions of dollars.

01:32:23.280 It was derelict.

01:32:24.780 And so we were like, if the city has already allowed a park to be there, it means we basically

01:32:31.620 are grandfathered in.

01:32:33.340 They can't then try and tell us we can't like, they can try and block us.

01:32:37.060 But basically we buy this property, we leave their DIY, whatever alone, do your thing, but

01:32:42.920 we can build a park on the other side where there's already concrete saving a lot

01:32:45.680 of money and the precedent has been set.

01:32:47.940 The city allows people to come here to skate.

01:32:50.020 They would have a harder time trying to challenge us to make it stop happening.

01:32:54.120 And so this resulted in people making up a bunch of fake stories and lies.

01:32:57.560 Well, they shut the event down due to concerns for our safety.

01:33:02.100 Lie.

01:33:02.520 It's a complete lie.

01:33:04.240 You only did good things.

01:33:05.620 You threw money.

01:33:06.840 You said, I'm going to buy the thing so that you can own it.

01:33:09.260 And then they just shut the event down.

01:33:10.560 So the, the, the, this is the crazy thing about the cult, right?

01:33:14.800 Now let's, let's talk about the, the, the woke cult and, and, and, and, you know, let's

01:33:19.000 skateboarding just be a specific example for this one.

01:33:22.060 These are people who were putting on an event that was not on property.

01:33:26.760 They owned, it was not officially labeled as a private park.

01:33:31.200 It was said to be a do-it-yourself public event with random groups, meaning who, if someone

01:33:37.840 said, come to state street, you know, downtown, you'd be like, okay, like clearly that's just

01:33:43.180 public property.

01:33:44.060 I can do what I, you know, I can, I can do the same in the public as anybody else for

01:33:47.680 them to then say, we know the owner and we have private permission to do this.

01:33:51.560 And it's private property.

01:33:52.400 You're not allowed to be here.

01:33:53.020 I was like, oh, I had no idea.

01:33:54.200 Okay.

01:33:54.320 I'm out.

01:33:55.460 So here's what happens.

01:33:57.140 We were, uh, I was, I was with, uh, Alison, my girlfriend were in Martinsburg looking at

01:34:01.280 a lot, which is 3000 square feet.

01:34:03.940 We wanted to buy and clean.

01:34:05.860 It was a derelict lot.

01:34:07.220 And I said, we could lay concrete, put some trees here.

01:34:10.360 We can make the city a little bit better.

01:34:11.700 We want to build an anti-time square.

01:34:13.540 We want to bring economic development to these generational businesses, protect them and expand 0.99

01:34:17.780 the area and create a space for ourselves.

01:34:19.840 A dude walks up while I'm talking to the agent, screaming in my face.

01:34:24.560 And I'm like, I don't even know what he's talking about.

01:34:26.560 I barely knew anything about their spot or like the event or anything.

01:34:31.140 Then another guy pulls up his car, jumps out, starts screaming in our face, telling us we're

01:34:34.940 not welcome here.

01:34:36.140 Here's the crazy thing.

01:34:38.080 The, the, the, the, the actual sponsors for the event were from Frederick, Maryland, 50 miles

01:34:42.000 away.

01:34:42.320 And our building that we own right now, where we're, we're putting a skate shop is two blocks

01:34:48.140 away.

01:34:49.060 But the, the issue is you get these woke people.

01:34:52.980 They don't care about skateboarding.

01:34:54.420 They care about their cult.

01:34:56.940 I guess.

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01:36:32.380 ...to see the Buddha for the purpose of spitting upon him.

01:36:35.680 Man spits on the Buddha and people go, Buddha, are you mad?

01:36:39.800 Are you mad?

01:36:40.340 This man just spat on you?

01:36:41.240 And he said, no, I feel no anger at all, for he did not spit on me.

01:36:45.520 He spat on who he thought I was.

01:36:48.300 I think that's what happened.

01:36:49.080 I think they had an idea about who you are, and they went into it guns blazing.

01:36:53.460 You disagree?

01:36:53.940 I disagree.

01:36:54.500 Go on.

01:36:55.180 So you're not the Buddha.

01:36:55.860 All right, all right.

01:36:56.380 Let's not give him too big of a head.

01:36:57.580 No, you're giving me too much credit.

01:36:59.000 You're not an immortal being, all right?

01:37:00.280 I think two things.

01:37:01.440 I think a lot of these people, not every single one.

01:37:04.960 Some people maybe just wanted to skate.

01:37:06.760 But why were rumors spread that I was going to tear down their skate park?

01:37:11.300 Why would a skateboarder of two and a half decades say, I am going to destroy a skate park? 1.00

01:37:17.040 That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. 0.99

01:37:19.080 If anything, I'm like, I'm going to expand your skate park and preserve your right to skate here. 1.00

01:37:23.220 It's crazy, right?

01:37:24.460 Why would they spread these lies?

01:37:25.820 Plot twist.

01:37:26.220 We had a private meeting, and we are thinking about demolishing the whole thing, unless you

01:37:30.220 acquiesce to our demands.

01:37:31.800 Unless you fly Gadsden flags and vote for Trump.

01:37:33.880 It seems like a skateboarder buying the park is the best thing that could happen to it,

01:37:39.060 so that way it doesn't somehow get removed or torn down for any other reason.

01:37:43.660 And that was my...

01:37:44.480 So we want to build a park.

01:37:45.480 We want to expand.

01:37:46.460 And so when we were looking at properties, there were like three properties.

01:37:50.340 We were looking at this one.

01:37:51.340 Why?

01:37:51.600 There's a park there already.

01:37:52.740 If we want to spend half a million dollars on building a big public park that'll attract

01:37:56.180 people from all over the tri-state, we can do it.

01:37:59.060 And we're like, this property is derelict.

01:38:03.220 Like, it's just...

01:38:04.500 Who owns it?

01:38:06.560 I want to preserve the privacy of the people involved, but let's just say the data was incorrect

01:38:11.940 on ownership.

01:38:13.080 And so I'm like, so this is derelict, right?

01:38:14.900 Not only were they lying about owning the park, they were saying that they would forcibly

01:38:20.180 remove you from the park.

01:38:21.400 This is the other crazy thing.

01:38:22.520 Getting forcibly removed from the property you owned?

01:38:24.900 Well, so it's an abandoned property.

01:38:26.540 It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, look, people, I don't know if the previous owners

01:38:30.460 might get mad.

01:38:30.900 It was derelict.

01:38:31.600 Take a hike, boss.

01:38:32.780 I'm running things now.

01:38:34.620 It was, it was derelict and it was, it was, uh, the only challenge in purchasing was locating

01:38:40.760 the actual record holder because the data was incorrect due to, you know, I mean, derelict

01:38:47.040 is maybe too mean.

01:38:47.680 I'm trying to be nice to the previous, they did not care about it.

01:38:49.740 It's more derelict.

01:38:50.940 Derelict.

01:38:51.620 And so these dudes who are there, here's what I think.

01:38:53.480 These people were like, so long as the people who own it don't care.

01:39:00.940 We own it.

01:39:01.700 We can do whatever we want.

01:39:02.760 We're in charge.

01:39:03.480 It's effectively our property.

01:39:04.860 We can build whatever we want, do whatever you want.

01:39:06.760 It's ours.

01:39:07.860 So when I step in and say, I'd like to expand, what's actually happening is, uh-oh, our pseudo

01:39:13.980 ownership is being taken from us.

01:39:15.920 That, that, that, that, that was a big component of it.

01:39:19.300 They didn't own the property.

01:39:21.640 They, they, they had street ownership of the property in terms of the city hates them.

01:39:27.100 They, they, they've told me this and it's there like, so long as the owner doesn't care,

01:39:33.860 they can do whatever they want.

01:39:35.220 Has anybody thanked you after the fact?

01:39:38.500 No.

01:39:39.400 And this is, here's the thing.

01:39:40.940 When they say you're not from here, you can't be here.

01:39:43.020 And it turns out that several of these people are from 50 miles away.

01:39:46.800 What do I discover?

01:39:48.320 Well, the people that they're working with are part of a skate shop that flies progress

01:39:53.080 pride flags and has these kinds of events and is clearly aligned left politically.

01:39:59.100 So me just being like, we're going to build a skate park.

01:40:01.280 They're like, it can't happen.

01:40:02.620 We cannot allow Tim Pool to build a half a million dollar skate park or more on this property.

01:40:07.600 And we can't, it's sad because it'd be good for the economy in Martinsburg in general.

01:40:12.140 People will travel to come skate.

01:40:13.660 They'll grab lunch afterwards.

01:40:14.860 They'll hit up the corner store.

01:40:15.960 They'll get gas.

01:40:16.800 Like it'll bring people from all over the state.

01:40:20.340 Well, multiple states.

01:40:21.600 What I ended up seeing is much like, why are they lying about my ability to skateboard?

01:40:26.780 Why are they saying I suck at skateboarding?

01:40:28.180 So this is why I started posting a bunch more skate videos.

01:40:29.980 I'm like, no, no, I'm going to make sure, you know, I'm better than you at skateboarding

01:40:33.000 and you do not get to take this culture over.

01:40:35.020 It was basically like watching wokeness and skateboarding was so offensive to me as a

01:40:39.760 skateboarder that I finally was like, I'm going to start posting videos and we're going

01:40:42.740 to start building and investing here.

01:40:44.500 So basically what I, what I think it is, is these people have a weird political cult mentality.

01:40:50.800 They're not good skateboarders.

01:40:52.700 They skateboard and that's fine.

01:40:54.220 You don't need to be the most talented or, or our best skateboard in the world to be a

01:40:58.600 skateboarder and have fun.

01:40:59.300 But when they start trying to assert politics in the space, which excise people from the

01:41:05.520 space, they told, they said they would physically remove me from the property.

01:41:09.160 If I tried to skate there and I'm like, you don't own the property.

01:41:12.720 It's the craziest thing to me.

01:41:14.400 Understand this as we're talking about skateboarders who trespass every day and fight with security

01:41:18.720 guards to skate that other skateboarders would say, we will physically remove you. 0.95

01:41:22.900 If you try to come to property, we don't own.

01:41:24.440 It's crazier than that.

01:41:25.940 I've had people, old friends hit me up and just terminate the friendship because of my

01:41:30.400 association with you out of the blue.

01:41:31.920 They'll go like, they were never your friends.

01:41:33.260 That's what I'm saying.

01:41:33.900 But they're like, well, they actually were to me, you know, at one, they still are to

01:41:37.540 me.

01:41:37.740 They're welcome to come back and be my friend.

01:41:39.620 But I've explained to them multiple times.

01:41:41.300 They're like, but, but, but Republicans.

01:41:43.140 I went, are you under, are you working under the assumption that Republicans aren't people?

01:41:47.720 Do you think they don't love their children, pet their animals, drink water, drink?

01:41:52.640 Well, like, what do you think is going on?

01:41:54.400 You know, that's where I stand.

01:41:55.340 And I know this, nobody's going to like this, but it is the United States and it's meant

01:41:58.780 to be shared.

01:41:59.600 The idea that Republicans are just all not people, conservatives are all not people is

01:42:04.460 a left idea.

01:42:05.440 And I don't see it particularly coming the other way.

01:42:07.820 Well, the right is like embarrassed by the left.

01:42:09.700 They're like, but nobody's saying like you are impermissible.

01:42:12.520 And the left seems to think that anyone on the right is just an impermissible person.

01:42:16.140 This is what we're going to do.

01:42:16.960 I think right now, politically, it's getting bad.

01:42:19.960 Like I, I, I've had conversations with people who I do consider friends who are very opposed

01:42:24.340 political and I'm just like to me and I'm like, wow, I do not understand the, the, the

01:42:31.540 black, like the mirror image of morality. 0.78

01:42:33.460 It is absolutely insane to me when, uh, you know, I had a friend recently say a baby gestated 0.65

01:42:39.580 at nine months is not life and has no human rights.

01:42:43.220 And I'm like, wait, wait, wait, and I was told it is the woman's choice whether to kill

01:42:49.020 that baby or not, because it's not a baby and it doesn't matter. 0.99

01:42:51.040 So long as the baby is in the woman, it can be killed. 1.00

01:42:52.780 And I'm like, you see, I'm actually traditionally pro-choice.

01:42:57.720 I don't understand why you would kill the baby.

01:42:59.720 If it needs, if the woman wants to end the pregnancy, by all means end it. 1.00

01:43:02.660 But if the baby can survive on its own, why kill it?

01:43:04.640 And she said explicitly, who cares? 0.97

01:43:06.520 It's the mother's choice to kill it. 1.00

01:43:08.300 Maybe she doesn't want to be a mom. 1.00

01:43:09.480 Maybe she doesn't want the baby to exist. 0.98

01:43:10.660 And I'm like, holy, wow, our morals will never come together.

01:43:16.120 That's an impossibility.

01:43:17.460 And it's a scary one too, because the moral line is getting so intense. 0.97

01:43:22.060 Like to me, she's talking about outright killing a baby.

01:43:25.740 I understand pro-lifers think even at, you know, one day's conception.

01:43:29.840 But for me as like, I'm like, you're talking about a nine month old.

01:43:33.960 They don't care.

01:43:34.420 I'm like, when I see something like that, I'm just like, dude, what, here's what I want

01:43:37.820 to do.

01:43:38.860 One of the reasons why I want to own this skate park.

01:43:41.660 I want them to skate there.

01:43:42.940 I want these lefty cultists to skate there. 0.96

01:43:44.940 But guess what?

01:43:45.480 They're invited.

01:43:46.360 They're going to have to skate there with all the conservatives too.

01:43:48.360 I would think that's fantastic.

01:43:50.280 I think we're seeing more and more that like people on the left don't even want to sit

01:43:56.280 and have a conversation.

01:43:57.760 They shut it down.

01:43:58.600 They shut you down.

01:43:59.600 And like you and I, like we disagree on the like abortion issue.

01:44:05.200 I'm pro-life.

01:44:06.160 You're traditionally pro-choice.

01:44:07.940 We can skate and hang out and get along and have a conversation about it just fine.

01:44:13.980 But it's almost like, man, even though we disagree, we are still substantially closer

01:44:22.480 to each other in the argument than the left is.

01:44:24.340 Definitely.

01:44:25.000 Yeah.

01:44:25.240 Like you don't have some crazy extreme viewpoint on it.

01:44:28.060 To me, I think that life is life and all life is valuable.

01:44:33.000 And I think that it is everyone's right to have life.

01:44:38.420 And that includes babies who are in the womb.

01:44:41.800 But like you and I could have a reasonable conversation and not get upset about it, not

01:44:45.960 shut each other down, not like block each other on social media.

01:44:49.560 And I can't talk to most leftists about that.

01:44:52.660 They wouldn't even hear my point of view. 0.97

01:44:54.160 They're Nazis. 0.61

01:44:55.260 You know, I too many people who are aligned with the libertarian, post-liberal and conservative

01:45:00.940 views are like scared to use these phrases.

01:45:02.420 Like, dude, no, you'll say like the left are the real fascists. 0.94

01:45:07.080 They're the real Nazis. 1.00

01:45:07.940 And then they'll say, hi, you're so dumb. 1.00

01:45:09.960 No, I don't care what they think. 1.00

01:45:11.280 OK, they're eugenicists.

01:45:13.080 They're authoritarian.

01:45:13.920 They march in lockstep with corporations and government, the lucrative merger of corporation

01:45:17.280 and state.

01:45:18.900 They want to control and own property.

01:45:20.860 They want to own and control you.

01:45:22.420 They want to restrict your thoughts.

01:45:23.520 They want command economies.

01:45:24.540 I'm like, dude, there is so little difference between them and Nazis. 0.99

01:45:27.180 They hate Jews. 0.96

01:45:28.240 OK, we're so close to it being the same thing. 1.00

01:45:30.940 I'm going to call them Nazis. 0.96

01:45:32.420 Sorry, when you have when you have BLM Chicago posting the paragliders, bro, man, look, somebody

01:45:38.780 wants to come to me and say, I'm very concerned about Israel's military action.

01:45:41.080 Say, oh, yeah, tell me more.

01:45:41.820 Tell me more.

01:45:42.400 And then they say, you know, I think there's a there's a question over how we deal with

01:45:45.500 Palestine and these Palestinians are suffering. 0.99

01:45:46.820 I'm like, oh, I'm very interested in hearing more about this.

01:45:48.860 Then you post a picture of a paraglider who went and murdered a bunch of people at music

01:45:51.340 festival.

01:45:51.780 And I'm like, dude, I don't think the question is you're concerned about innocent civilians

01:45:56.300 dying.

01:45:57.000 I think the concern is that you don't like the people who are currently there, if you know what I

01:45:59.780 mean? So without getting into all of that, let me just say they want to own the property.

01:46:04.840 They want to tell you who who's allowed to be there.

01:46:07.220 They want to tell you what you what you are allowed to believe, what you're allowed to

01:46:10.140 say.

01:46:10.960 You add all those things together.

01:46:12.340 They they support the lucrative merger of corporation and state.

01:46:15.840 It is fascistic.

01:46:17.440 It is not Nazism.

01:46:18.700 And then you add in the fact that you have these not every single one of them, but but

01:46:22.340 large groups of them supporting Hamas.

01:46:25.820 And I'm just like, they're so close to what the Nazis were. 0.80

01:46:30.080 By all means, adding the Nazis were not progressive.

01:46:33.340 One of the big differences between the rise of Nazism and communism is traditional versus

01:46:38.160 progressive.

01:46:38.860 The communists wanted to erase all culture.

01:46:40.640 Nazis wanted to enforce culture.

01:46:43.820 I'm just looking at them like there are differences, but if they get eight out of ten, I'm just

01:46:49.500 going to call them Nazis. 0.54

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01:48:18.560 There's a good, um, I have a good example of a DIY, uh, like a woke DIY exclusion, uh, scenario

01:48:24.500 in New York, there was a DIY and there was an event for LGBT and of course I've always

01:48:29.280 rocked with it.

01:48:29.740 Like if you skate, I don't care. 1.00

01:48:30.880 Like no one's going to talk shit to you at the skate park. 0.99

01:48:32.520 Like it doesn't really, you know what I mean? 0.99

01:48:34.180 For the most part.

01:48:34.700 Yeah, do your thing.

01:48:35.300 And, but they have an event and the flyer's like, no cis people, no allies.

01:48:39.780 We don't want allies.

01:48:40.580 I'm like, you don't want allies.

01:48:42.560 Like you don't want us to like, what do you mean?

01:48:44.760 Like everybody who wants to come and skate with you, you're saying you can't because the

01:48:48.840 inclusion is inverted to exclusion.

01:48:50.680 It's simple.

01:48:51.580 This is the next step of join the cult or else.

01:48:54.660 Yeah.

01:48:54.820 Because now.

01:48:55.560 Well, no, they wouldn't let us.

01:48:56.600 They wouldn't let us hang out and be cool with them.

01:48:57.820 That's, you're incorrect.

01:48:58.780 All you have to do is say you're trans.

01:49:00.120 Or not, you're right.

01:49:00.680 Have you guys noticed like what's happening with not just women's skate contests, but like

01:49:06.000 women's meetups and events in general?

01:49:08.560 Oh yeah.

01:49:09.140 Like you, you will not see, you will not see a flyer on the internet because like you'll

01:49:14.380 see this stuff on Instagram at different skate parks and, um, it'll be for like

01:49:18.600 a meetup and you will not see one for women. 1.00

01:49:22.360 You will only see for women and LGBTQ WXYZ plus, plus, plus.

01:49:28.140 And I used to do this girls meetup group in Kalamazoo.

01:49:32.000 I called it Galamazoo because I thought it was really cute.

01:49:34.900 The gals of Kalamazoo.

01:49:36.300 And it'd be like once a month we would go to skate zoo.

01:49:38.960 Girls would pay half price and there would be me and a few other girls who are like the 1.00

01:49:42.860 older girls, um, some were quad skaters, some were skateboarders.

01:49:46.780 And we would just advertise it that if, if you are new to skateboarding, if you already

01:49:52.920 skateboard and you just want to come hang out, have something to look forward to every month

01:49:56.420 where you get to see friends.

01:49:57.660 Or if you're a parent who has a daughter who wants to learn to skate will be available

01:50:01.680 to give lessons like pretty much for free.

01:50:04.080 And I started getting like criticism from people in the community, like, well, uh, is this

01:50:11.440 like LGBTQ friendly?

01:50:14.400 Like, why doesn't it say women and queer?

01:50:16.680 And I was like, well, first off, I'm not the skate park police.

01:50:20.840 Anybody can come to a public skate park while I am holding a meetup there.

01:50:25.280 And you're more than welcome to guys would come and they would help out and like help girls

01:50:29.220 who are learning.

01:50:29.740 And it was a very positive thing until it became like everyone was attacking me because

01:50:35.940 I didn't want to put LGBTQ on the flyer. 1.00

01:50:39.100 And I said, I'm not going to do that because really the main group that I'm focused on here

01:50:43.260 is young girls who are in the same position that I was in when I was a teenager going to

01:50:48.480 the skate park for the first time, feeling very intimidated, not knowing anybody, not seeing

01:50:52.240 any other girls there. 0.98

01:50:53.320 I want them to come and feel comfortable and know that they're welcome there and be able

01:50:57.460 to actually learn and progress and be excited about going to go for the next event.

01:51:03.420 And like, it had to be all about that.

01:51:06.880 And then I started to get girls who are hitting me up saying, oh, well, there's a, like a trans 1.00

01:51:11.860 identified, like a female who identifies as a man who was like violent towards me and I

01:51:19.560 don't want them there and I'm scared to go.

01:51:21.400 And I was like, again, not the skate park police.

01:51:24.600 I, I cannot tell anybody not to come.

01:51:27.580 Like you should definitely do whatever you need to do and report that if somebody actually

01:51:33.040 did something.

01:51:34.360 But like, why can't we just have a nice thing for girls to meet up at the skate park? 1.00

01:51:39.360 Why does it have to be like this?

01:51:41.080 It's insane.

01:51:41.840 And I've talked to a lot of girls who have noticed this happening in their communities.

01:51:45.540 And it's been years since I've ever seen a flyer that was just for girls.

01:51:49.540 Now it's girls and non-binary and trans.

01:51:52.000 It's true.

01:51:52.420 Like we are not all the same group.

01:51:54.500 Girls can have their own stuff. 1.00

01:51:55.920 What is the end result of this?

01:51:57.040 That's why I'm like Nazis. 0.94

01:51:58.280 Because if the end result is that males can be in female spaces, females get pushed out 1.00

01:52:03.000 of those spaces, which in turn creates a bunch of male spaces. 0.97

01:52:06.300 Yeah.

01:52:06.960 Like I'm like, it's a return to the traditional world of women are going to be out of the 1.00

01:52:12.020 workforce, out of competitions.

01:52:13.120 Women out of the workforce, I'm cool with. 1.00

01:52:15.900 I'm cool with staying home and raising babies.

01:52:18.480 But no, I'm just playing.

01:52:19.600 But like, it does create a space where you don't even want to be a part of it.

01:52:24.740 Like, I don't want to go to a contest and be made a mockery of, have some dude mop the

01:52:29.020 floor with me and get to compete for second or third place.

01:52:32.420 Like, that's not fun.

01:52:33.860 And it's not, like in a space that is supposedly created for women to feel excluded from that,

01:52:40.760 it's a slap in the face.

01:52:43.120 Man, these are crazy days.

01:52:46.360 A lot of it has to do with law too.

01:52:48.620 The reason why a lot of companies don't fight back is because a lot of that good score.

01:52:54.240 No, a lot of states have the law saying you can't discriminate on the basis of identity.

01:52:57.380 So New York, New Jersey, Philadelphia, you know, California.

01:53:00.960 But where does, where does it become discrimination on the basis of identity towards women?

01:53:04.720 So the issue, never.

01:53:07.480 The issue is interesting because the left is using this argument.

01:53:11.540 Back in the day during racial segregation, the people who were in favor of racial segregation

01:53:16.020 argued that black and white people were different.

01:53:19.380 And so it just made sense.

01:53:20.740 They were like, oh, you know, black people tend to be taller or whatever. 1.00

01:53:23.400 And so the left is not using that same argument where they're like, there are short men and

01:53:29.900 there are tall men.

01:53:30.560 There are gay women and there are straight women.

01:53:32.140 Like, how does it make sense to, like, what's your argument for a male not using a woman's 0.93

01:53:36.320 bathroom?

01:53:37.140 For a trans woman? 0.76

01:53:37.960 Are you, because you're saying that they might attack the woman?

01:53:40.000 Well, a man can go in the bathroom anyway. 1.00

01:53:41.140 So it's just a space, who cares what bathroom they use?

01:53:43.620 I'm like, the argument then becomes, why bother having two different bathrooms at all?

01:53:48.120 And where they will take it is the end of gender segregation entirely.

01:53:52.100 So there will no longer be men's and women's changing rooms or, you know, males and female

01:53:56.300 separated spaces, which in turn creates one very simple and obvious thing.

01:54:00.060 Females will stop using these spaces. 1.00

01:54:01.780 It will push females out of the public spaces entirely. 1.00

01:54:05.340 I think that's their intention.

01:54:06.820 It, well, there are countries that are kind of like that already.

01:54:11.400 And then you're going to have women who are going to be like.

01:54:13.260 It's not going to be a nice society for women to live in. 1.00

01:54:16.060 What happens when, uh, there are, and it won't be every female, but a lot of them are 1.00

01:54:20.760 going to be like, I don't feel safe going into a bathroom with a bunch of males for whatever

01:54:25.800 reason. 0.99

01:54:26.060 Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe they were raped. 1.00

01:54:27.680 Maybe they were traumatized.

01:54:28.440 Or maybe there's in general, like, I'm smaller and, you know, I can't defend myself because

01:54:32.400 now I'm not allowed to have guns either.

01:54:33.560 Also, like, there are religious women who, for. 1.00

01:54:36.660 Other reasons aren't going to be sharing a space like that.

01:54:40.420 Like, isn't that discrimination on basis of religion?

01:54:43.380 I use, I use the blackjack analogy.

01:54:46.220 Blackjack has 50.5% for the house to win the casino and 49.5 for you to win.

01:54:52.340 Meaning, I mean, as far as you're concerned, you're flipping a coin, right?

01:54:55.200 Doesn't matter for the casino.

01:54:56.440 Over the long enough period of time, they make money because they have that small edge.

01:55:00.460 That's how it works.

01:55:01.520 What's going to happen with males in female spaces, if the, if this creates an edge where 1.00

01:55:07.380 49% of, like, 51% of females or 50.1% of females don't feel comfortable going in these spaces

01:55:13.460 over a long enough period of time, it will start becoming more and more lopsided where you will

01:55:17.860 get substantially more males in public events, politics, etc. 0.67

01:55:22.580 Substantially less females.

01:55:24.940 If women are already at, you know, physical sporting disadvantages compared to males based 1.00

01:55:30.180 on, like, collagen and bone density and muscle mass, etc.

01:55:33.780 What is it going to be like when half the women don't feel comfortable even being in the 1.00

01:55:38.080 building because there's no bathroom for them?

01:55:40.220 Because there's males who use the same bathroom and then they'll, oh, call them bigots, call

01:55:44.260 them whatever you want.

01:55:44.860 I don't care if you think the women are right or wrong. 1.00

01:55:46.300 I'm saying there are women who will not do this. 0.84

01:55:48.860 So let's say there's an Olympic event and they're like, okay, males can compete on the

01:55:53.280 female team, females on the male team, but females don't compete on the male team.

01:55:56.060 And then if you want, if you do want to come and compete, okay, athletes all come into the

01:56:00.700 changing room.

01:56:01.500 Doesn't matter what you're, there's no gender segregation. 1.00

01:56:03.600 Females get naked in front of the males. 1.00

01:56:05.040 Okay, now there's your bathroom. 1.00

01:56:06.640 Take a shower and use a toilet in front of each other.

01:56:09.680 Dudes are going to be like, I'll do whatever it takes to win.

01:56:11.740 And there'll be a lot of women who are like, I don't want to be here. 1.00

01:56:14.400 That's going to create a negative pressure on females. 1.00

01:56:16.320 And what will end up happening is what is already heavily male, like three, three, three

01:56:20.820 to one, it's going to become nine to one because you're going to, you're going to be just pushing

01:56:24.920 out a large amount and whatever the number is of females from these spaces. 1.00

01:56:29.660 I don't think it's anything to do with gender or bathrooms.

01:56:33.160 You know, it's to do with me.

01:56:34.460 People are uncomfortable when I'm in any room.

01:56:37.000 Yes, that's fair.

01:56:37.960 This is, this is.

01:56:38.660 And so how about, how about then women have the option whether or not to be in the same, 0.97

01:56:43.780 same space with people like you.

01:56:45.500 Yeah. 0.99

01:56:46.200 Bad, bad men.

01:56:46.980 Bad, bad men.

01:56:48.120 Hey, weren't you on Judge Joe Brown?

01:56:49.780 Can we pull that up?

01:56:50.680 What of it?

01:56:51.100 Oh, yeah.

01:56:52.040 Why were you on Judge Joe Brown?

01:56:53.560 Because skate rats bring down the house. 1.00

01:56:55.880 Also.

01:56:56.600 So you destroyed this house?

01:56:58.740 Allegedly.

01:56:59.640 I thought you were the one who didn't destroy the house.

01:57:02.640 I was the plaintiff.

01:57:03.580 You were the plaintiff.

01:57:04.700 When I first met Dennis, this is what he showed me.

01:57:07.920 So this was my introduction.

01:57:09.060 People are coming over here partying.

01:57:10.300 This is like a party house or something, you know.

01:57:11.780 So I tried to clean it and keep everything, you know, somewhat nice. 0.98

01:57:15.000 The place was a piece of **** anyway. 0.85

01:57:17.340 You remember you stayed there for a year. 0.99

01:57:19.820 Yeah, but it's cheap, man.

01:57:20.660 It was cheap.

01:57:21.940 Well, if it was cheap, you stayed there for a year.

01:57:24.940 I got more time to clean stuff and pick stuff up than I do money.

01:57:28.120 So it worked out.

01:57:29.700 You're the one that's in the situation.

01:57:32.440 So wait, hold on.

01:57:33.240 Like, you sued this guy?

01:57:35.220 It was, um, well, I was suing for a fair share of percentage of damages.

01:57:40.880 Yeah, for the place.

01:57:41.920 So, like, it wasn't me suing him.

01:57:43.160 It was like, we all got to pay for the damages.

01:57:45.080 Oh, and he was refusing to contribute to the...

01:57:47.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, I was the only one on the lease with, like, at a skate house.

01:57:49.460 So it was like, you know.

01:57:50.200 Oh, so you guys destroyed this house and had to pay for it?

01:57:51.780 Over the course of, like, three generations of skaters.

01:57:54.380 You know what I mean?

01:57:56.860 Yeah, skateboards are bad people, I guess the conclusion is, huh?

01:57:59.640 No, the slumlord was bad.

01:58:00.880 We won.

01:58:01.880 You won against the slumlord?

01:58:03.220 I mean, more or less.

01:58:03.760 Go to where he wins.

01:58:05.000 I mean...

01:58:06.120 Well, we all win right here.

01:58:07.360 What's this?

01:58:07.640 Oh, that's a spike.

01:58:08.740 It is a spike.

01:58:09.600 Oh, whoa, that kind of reaction.

01:58:10.920 There's an American flag that covered that.

01:58:12.680 Ripped it down and just started laying off in the wall like a jackhammer, man.

01:58:15.440 I got scared and ran in my room.

01:58:21.600 Okay.

01:58:23.640 They're fascinating.

01:58:24.740 What was that?

01:58:26.940 You see, this is what skateboarders do, man.

01:58:28.180 I don't have a camel after a few, one too many.

01:58:30.180 This is, uh, I mean, that's just how it was around there often.

01:58:33.520 Notice how clean the kitchen is, though.

01:58:35.400 Once.

01:58:36.360 I don't know.

01:58:39.300 And this is one of the kids' rooms, uh...

01:58:41.560 Yes, that's one of the things.

01:58:43.160 This is how skateboarders do.

01:58:44.500 Okay, hold on.

01:58:45.980 This is so perfect.

01:58:47.920 Okay, for those...

01:58:48.280 That was the closet, and it was basically falling off the back of the building.

01:58:51.280 Okay, so just for those that are listening, you can't see...

01:58:52.620 He's just got a twin bed in the closet with a TV.

01:58:55.200 It was a big closet, but...

01:58:56.220 This is such a great example, okay?

01:58:57.580 For those that are listening and can't see, this is...

01:58:59.760 The walls are filthy, covered in graffiti.

01:59:02.160 There's a box TV.

01:59:03.300 What year was this?

01:59:04.320 Like, 2010.

01:59:05.620 So, a TV from, like, 1999.

01:59:08.520 Yes.

01:59:09.280 Well, you know, you gotta do what you gotta do.

01:59:11.580 And the closet's falling off the building.

01:59:14.700 This is how skateboarders live.

01:59:17.640 And so...

01:59:18.140 This does not apply to me.

01:59:20.260 Many of us women skateboarders do not live this way. 0.96

01:59:23.940 But, right, this is the point, right?

01:59:25.540 Right, you live much worse.

01:59:26.680 For the skate rat dudes who want to live this way, 1.00

01:59:29.360 and then you, like, should let the skateboarders have separate spaces.

01:59:34.820 You know what I'm saying?

01:59:35.320 Like, if women don't want to be in a house like this, 1.00

01:59:37.700 or if this is what skateboarders do,

01:59:40.060 and they do a lot, and it's mostly young guys,

01:59:42.420 there's a clear difference.

01:59:44.140 Sometimes there are women there, 1.00

01:59:45.020 but, in my experience, like, 99.9% of the time,

01:59:49.880 women are not living in these skate houses. 1.00

01:59:51.520 When he moved out, a woman moved into his room, though. 0.99

01:59:53.920 But it happens.

01:59:54.700 It happens.

01:59:55.180 More importantly, the judge ruled in your favor.

01:59:58.380 Yes.

01:59:59.000 He ruled the...

01:59:59.480 Let's see that.

01:59:59.720 Big Daddy Joe.

02:00:00.260 Wait, doesn't it show some more pictures of evidence?

02:00:02.700 Yeah, the next evidence is probably better.

02:00:04.140 The pictures are good.

02:00:05.680 I mean, this is one of the kids' rooms.

02:00:08.020 Yes, that's one of the things...

02:00:09.500 What year?

02:00:09.860 Oh, 2010, you said.

02:00:10.440 ...that I'm upset about is the artwork put on the walls.

02:00:13.440 Well, it looks like it's a four-year-old crown.

02:00:15.360 It's around the whole wall.

02:00:16.340 Every wall.

02:00:17.080 And that's, it's like, looks like beer cans and ashes.

02:00:20.800 Not cigarette ashes.

02:00:21.760 There's too many of them.

02:00:22.500 I don't know what they said on fire.

02:00:23.480 That old sneaky dustpan caught something on fire.

02:00:25.460 What?

02:00:27.280 Pentagram.

02:00:28.600 Listen, listen, this is the best part.

02:00:29.880 Look.

02:00:30.300 Oh, he said, that's Jamal's.

02:00:35.000 He just pinned it on him.

02:00:35.960 And he goes, yes.

02:00:36.780 That's okay.

02:00:38.340 We'll be right back with Judge Joe Brown.

02:00:39.900 But so the result is the judge says

02:00:41.480 they're equally responsible for it.

02:00:42.600 Yeah, he says, well, you're all, you know,

02:00:44.780 he's like, my friend's like,

02:00:46.240 oh, well, Dennis owes.

02:00:47.420 And he's like, well, you all owe.

02:00:48.620 And that was it.

02:00:49.180 I mean, that was what it was for.

02:00:50.140 But so I think it's a good example

02:00:51.380 to see like the squalor of skate rats.

02:00:54.280 I've talked about this quite a bit.

02:00:55.540 Skateboarders are people

02:00:56.220 who will work minimum wage jobs

02:00:57.860 and share a one bedroom with like seven people

02:01:00.160 to cut their costs down

02:01:01.080 so they can just go skate.

02:01:02.160 Yeah, totally.

02:01:02.680 But that's tight.

02:01:04.080 Sure.

02:01:04.500 I mean, yeah, live your life,

02:01:05.580 be free and do your thing.

02:01:06.440 But how do you how do you force people like this

02:01:10.540 into the box of wokeness?

02:01:12.740 Yeah, I don't think they're going to stay there very long,

02:01:14.420 especially when we have opportunities here

02:01:16.240 that they can come and join at any point.

02:01:18.480 So this is the this is the big point I'll make right now.

02:01:21.300 I had a conversation with some industry leaders,

02:01:25.100 you know, big company guys.

02:01:26.720 And they were like, hey, look, man,

02:01:29.540 we're hearing about, you know,

02:01:31.060 the DC thing and the controversy

02:01:33.220 and the Martinsburg thing.

02:01:34.320 And like, we don't we don't know a whole lot

02:01:36.440 about all that stuff,

02:01:37.480 but it is kind of crazy to hear.

02:01:38.820 And, you know, these older guys are like,

02:01:40.840 you know, F these people

02:01:41.720 do not care about this stuff.

02:01:42.640 But, you know, we're just wondering what's going on.

02:01:43.860 I said, look, man, here's what we're doing.

02:01:45.860 I meet a pro skateboarder

02:01:46.940 and they say I ask them,

02:01:48.940 why aren't you speaking up about,

02:01:50.720 you know, some of these things

02:01:51.500 affecting the skateboard community,

02:01:53.560 women's sports? 1.00

02:01:54.140 And they're like, I don't want to lose my sponsors, man.

02:01:56.220 Like, you don't understand.

02:01:57.060 Like, I don't make that much money.

02:01:58.360 If I lose one sponsor,

02:01:59.500 I might not be able to pay my rent.

02:02:01.000 And so it's scary.

02:02:02.240 I said, OK, here's what we're going to do.

02:02:03.500 We are going to build up industry

02:02:05.880 so that pro skateboarder,

02:02:08.700 let's say their name, John Doe,

02:02:10.140 is like, look, dude,

02:02:11.000 I agree with you on all of these things.

02:02:12.860 I've got three sponsors.

02:02:14.200 If I lose one of them,

02:02:15.680 I'm in serious trouble.

02:02:16.740 I say, OK, we'll sponsor you

02:02:17.640 and we're going to pay you triple

02:02:19.440 what any one of these sponsors pays you.

02:02:21.280 Now you can go to each and every one of them

02:02:22.760 and tell them to go F themselves. 0.62

02:02:23.940 You can say whatever you want.

02:02:24.960 Well, I think that fundamentally goes against

02:02:26.660 the do-it-yourself nature of skateboarding.

02:02:28.960 What does?

02:02:29.940 Let's do it ourselves.

02:02:31.280 If the industry is not going to make it happen,

02:02:33.960 let's make our own industry.

02:02:35.160 Well, I agree.

02:02:35.940 I agree.

02:02:36.700 I think I understand people being like,

02:02:39.340 bro, my company,

02:02:40.200 my sponsorship has a morality clause.

02:02:42.480 Like outright says,

02:02:43.380 if I do something controversial, I'm out.

02:02:44.520 So I just, I don't say these things.

02:02:46.520 Additionally, there's no retirement plan

02:02:48.180 for any of these pro skateboarders

02:02:49.520 who sacrifice their bodies.

02:02:50.960 I've seen stuff that's broken my heart.

02:02:53.440 I won't name him,

02:02:54.640 but an extremely talented pro who gave so much.

02:02:57.700 He posted and then redacted a suicide note

02:03:00.220 because he decided not to do it.

02:03:01.560 And I'm like,

02:03:02.120 how can he end up in a position like that

02:03:04.260 after giving so much?

02:03:06.140 A multi-billion dollar industry skateboarding.

02:03:08.340 Yeah.

02:03:08.560 And there he is going like,

02:03:09.460 all right, guys, this is it.

02:03:10.360 It's been a good run.

02:03:11.060 See you later.

02:03:12.400 And then deletes it and decided to live.

02:03:14.420 I'm like, man,

02:03:14.960 people like that need our help.

02:03:17.220 So there's an argument for the Olympics

02:03:20.820 in that the corporatization

02:03:23.300 will create an alternative world of skateboarding,

02:03:26.060 which can provide something like this.

02:03:28.060 But, you know,

02:03:29.680 it just depends on what you care about

02:03:32.140 in terms of core skateboarding.

02:03:33.260 I think it's bad for a lot of reasons,

02:03:35.160 but if in the end,

02:03:36.400 you can still just do your thing

02:03:37.280 and mind your own business,

02:03:38.520 it's probably fine.

02:03:39.680 I just think it's a tragedy

02:03:40.560 that people see what we're doing

02:03:41.840 and decide,

02:03:42.980 yeah, but you're all persona non grata. 1.00

02:03:44.280 So no, this is stupid. 1.00

02:03:45.980 This is what I'm saying, man. 1.00

02:03:47.220 You know, I'm talking to this industry guy.

02:03:48.580 And when I mentioned this,

02:03:49.320 he was like,

02:03:49.960 you have our support 100%

02:03:51.720 because two reasons.

02:03:53.560 One, he's like,

02:03:54.420 if you're telling me

02:03:55.100 you're going to be investing millions of dollars

02:03:56.540 into expanding the culture,

02:03:58.800 inspiring young people,

02:03:59.980 this means that

02:04:00.860 we are going to get run off from this money.

02:04:03.360 When we sell more boards,

02:04:04.920 we sell more shoes,

02:04:05.660 we sell more shirts

02:04:06.560 because you're telling people

02:04:07.720 to keep skating and to be free

02:04:09.000 and it makes things better.

02:04:10.280 If you're telling pro skateboarders

02:04:11.740 they're secure in their jobs

02:04:12.780 and you're going to expand that,

02:04:13.740 we're going to sell more product.

02:04:15.200 This is a good thing for skateboarding.

02:04:16.740 The worst thing for skateboarding

02:04:18.480 and pro sports in general

02:04:19.620 is wokeness.

02:04:20.400 It terrifies people,

02:04:21.580 it scares money away

02:04:22.480 and it makes the,

02:04:23.260 it makes the,

02:04:23.840 it destroys the industry.

02:04:25.460 What young person,

02:04:26.940 I mean,

02:04:27.200 there's very few of them

02:04:27.880 are going to be like,

02:04:28.620 I want to be like

02:04:29.300 corporate sponsored Walmart.

02:04:31.200 Some people,

02:04:31.940 some people do,

02:04:32.720 but kids like to rebel.

02:04:33.740 They like to be punk rock.

02:04:34.820 They like to live in,

02:04:35.720 with cigarettes,

02:04:36.240 ashtrays and pentagrams

02:04:37.240 and skate and do their own thing.

02:04:38.940 And they're being told now

02:04:40.100 to get in the box 0.86

02:04:40.860 or shut up, 0.99

02:04:41.660 you're out. 0.99

02:04:42.380 And I think this is going to

02:04:43.500 push people away.

02:04:44.600 There's going to be young people

02:04:45.580 who are like,

02:04:45.940 I want to skate.

02:04:46.720 They're going to go to the skate park.

02:04:47.760 They're going to get berated,

02:04:48.700 insulted and called racist and sexist.

02:04:50.280 And they're going to say,

02:04:50.940 that was scary.

02:04:51.440 I don't want to do that again.

02:04:52.440 I will say this.

02:04:53.620 Obviously politics is a hot tamale 0.99

02:04:56.180 when it comes to skateboarding.

02:04:57.820 This is no diss on Tony Hawk,

02:04:59.740 but he did briefly post

02:05:02.260 an anti-Trump takedown Instagram post.

02:05:05.180 He took it down?

02:05:05.760 That thing disappeared

02:05:06.740 within five minutes

02:05:07.740 of him realizing

02:05:08.340 that he had split his fan base.

02:05:10.120 Yeah.

02:05:10.720 It went zip,

02:05:11.560 went away.

02:05:11.980 And I'm like,

02:05:12.300 I saw it.

02:05:14.100 Yeah.

02:05:14.660 You know,

02:05:15.040 look,

02:05:15.220 man,

02:05:15.580 I think Tony Hawk

02:05:16.560 is a great skateboarder.

02:05:19.320 I have to always correct everybody

02:05:22.040 because I'll be skating.

02:05:23.260 They'll be like,

02:05:23.640 Tony Hawk,

02:05:24.060 he's like the best,

02:05:24.660 right?

02:05:24.860 And I'll be like,

02:05:25.240 no,

02:05:26.080 Tony Hawk is the best vert skater

02:05:28.040 for his generation.

02:05:29.640 He is one of the most

02:05:30.640 influential skateboarders

02:05:31.740 and one of the best.

02:05:33.140 But anybody who knows anything

02:05:34.860 knows Rodney Mullen

02:05:35.680 is the godfather

02:05:37.060 of modern skateboarding.

02:05:38.280 I think Tony Hawk

02:05:39.280 like broke the barrier

02:05:40.200 of skateboarding though

02:05:41.080 that you didn't have to skateboard

02:05:42.860 to know who he was.

02:05:44.380 Of course,

02:05:44.680 but he's the ambassador.

02:05:45.760 He's the global ambassador.

02:05:46.540 Right.

02:05:46.800 And that's fair.

02:05:48.280 But you ask anybody like,

02:05:50.160 well,

02:05:50.320 Tony Hawk invented a bunch of tricks,

02:05:51.580 a lot of tricks.

02:05:52.720 And it's like grabs,

02:05:54.060 invert,

02:05:54.620 and things like that.

02:05:55.620 Rodney Mullen

02:05:56.280 revolutionized skateboarding

02:05:58.000 to the point where

02:05:58.600 every single person today

02:06:00.600 who skates

02:06:01.040 is skating

02:06:02.080 in a derivative style

02:06:03.360 of Rodney Mullen.

02:06:03.860 Well,

02:06:04.100 Rodney Mullen is

02:06:04.660 an astrophysicist savant.

02:06:06.460 But I think

02:06:08.000 that like

02:06:08.720 in the past few years

02:06:10.060 we like reached a point

02:06:11.180 that people were like

02:06:12.040 hating on freestyle,

02:06:13.780 which is crazy to me.

02:06:15.340 They'll be like,

02:06:15.740 Rodney Mullen's the best,

02:06:17.020 but Taylor Silverman 1.00

02:06:17.780 can't do that shit. 1.00

02:06:18.820 Don't do those tricks, 1.00

02:06:19.780 they're dumb. 1.00

02:06:20.340 Like, 1.00

02:06:20.720 I love Rodney Mullen,

02:06:22.080 but I like the like

02:06:23.220 combination of freestyle

02:06:24.840 with transition,

02:06:27.020 with street skating,

02:06:28.240 like,

02:06:28.420 Oh,

02:06:28.880 I mean,

02:06:29.180 yeah,

02:06:29.400 when Rodney Mullen,

02:06:30.720 when Rodney transitioned

02:06:31.600 to street skating

02:06:32.320 and started mixing

02:06:32.940 these things together.

02:06:34.000 So he said he had

02:06:34.980 a rough time.

02:06:35.920 He was at the premiere.

02:06:36.900 It was questionable.

02:06:38.080 And it's the one

02:06:38.940 where he skates

02:06:39.520 to Wonderful World

02:06:40.300 by Louis Armstrong.

02:06:42.260 And he said that

02:06:43.040 his part started up

02:06:43.880 and it was just crickets.

02:06:45.120 And he's like,

02:06:45.520 Oh my God,

02:06:46.120 I've blown it.

02:06:46.960 Like,

02:06:47.200 nobody's feeling this.

02:06:48.120 This is not working out.

02:06:49.760 I shouldn't have ever

02:06:50.700 started skating street

02:06:52.060 with these guys.

02:06:52.940 And he like went

02:06:53.580 through this spiral of,

02:06:54.580 oh,

02:06:54.840 it's all terrible.

02:06:56.440 And then the part ended

02:06:57.300 and it was like

02:06:58.020 a millisecond of silence

02:06:59.000 and then just.

02:07:00.140 Just a roar.

02:07:00.940 Yeah,

02:07:01.140 he's like,

02:07:01.520 Oh,

02:07:01.960 I'm in.

02:07:02.440 I've done it.

02:07:03.100 So,

02:07:03.460 and thank you,

02:07:04.140 Rodney.

02:07:04.400 Thank you so much.

02:07:05.180 We do owe it all to you.

02:07:06.420 So we'll give you

02:07:07.320 some skateboard history.

02:07:08.540 Alan Ollie Gelfand

02:07:09.760 invented the Ollie, 1.00

02:07:11.260 which is the basic

02:07:12.320 jump on a skateboard.

02:07:14.340 Your feet are not

02:07:15.140 attached to the board,

02:07:15.880 but many of you

02:07:16.640 have probably seen

02:07:17.380 that someone could

02:07:18.220 stand on a skateboard

02:07:18.900 and somehow the board

02:07:20.120 sticks to their feet.

02:07:21.180 That was technically,

02:07:23.420 only technically,

02:07:24.200 invented by Alan Gelfand.

02:07:26.040 He was in a pool

02:07:26.740 and he scooped

02:07:27.840 the back tail

02:07:28.440 allowing him

02:07:29.260 to keep the board

02:07:30.240 on his feet

02:07:30.880 as he turned around

02:07:32.060 and came back.

02:07:32.500 Without grabbing.

02:07:33.120 Prior to that,

02:07:33.720 Tony Alva and his ilk

02:07:34.800 were grabbing.

02:07:35.620 He was the first guy

02:07:36.240 to do it without a grab.

02:07:36.920 Right.

02:07:37.200 So they would hold

02:07:37.860 their board

02:07:38.440 to their feet

02:07:39.240 so it wouldn't disconnect.

02:07:40.100 the actual flat ground

02:07:42.760 Ollie was invented

02:07:43.360 by Rodney Mullen.

02:07:44.300 He's a Floridian teenager

02:07:46.820 who only had a flat piece

02:07:48.560 of concrete

02:07:49.000 and his mind

02:07:49.800 to occupy him.

02:07:51.380 And as a savant,

02:07:52.240 he saw that frontside

02:07:53.920 no-handed aerial

02:07:54.840 and thought,

02:07:55.540 how can I apply it

02:07:56.520 to flat ground?

02:07:57.480 And then he did.

02:07:58.100 Figured out the mechanism

02:07:59.460 of it,

02:07:59.780 figured out the leverage

02:08:00.560 and yeah,

02:08:01.640 this goes way back

02:08:02.580 and we want to get

02:08:03.000 into skate history.

02:08:04.060 So Stacey Peralta

02:08:04.720 is his mentor, right?

02:08:05.840 Yeah.

02:08:06.280 So Stacey said to him,

02:08:08.200 now he's done the kickflip

02:08:09.460 as an add-on to the Ollie

02:08:11.060 and Stacey said to him,

02:08:12.120 I bet you can't flip it

02:08:13.680 around the other axis.

02:08:14.720 That would be impossible.

02:08:16.380 And if you do it,

02:08:17.060 I'm going to call it

02:08:17.520 the impossible.

02:08:18.100 So puts Rodney to task on it.

02:08:20.020 Rodney works on it

02:08:20.800 for I don't know how long,

02:08:22.320 but he eventually figured out

02:08:23.360 there was a way around it

02:08:24.240 to wrap the board

02:08:25.960 around his foot

02:08:26.560 and he ends up doing it

02:08:27.860 and that trick now today

02:08:28.900 is called the impossible.

02:08:31.080 And I-

02:08:31.700 Do you remember I did one

02:08:32.320 first try the other day?

02:08:33.000 You did.

02:08:33.440 And I take issue with this.

02:08:34.580 Go on.

02:08:35.260 What, me landing it or what?

02:08:36.420 Hold on, hold on.

02:08:37.540 So just for the,

02:08:39.100 just for the people

02:08:39.760 who, you know,

02:08:40.760 I'll give you the basics

02:08:41.360 of history and Rodney Mullen.

02:08:43.380 When you see a skateboarder

02:08:44.460 riding on the street

02:08:45.100 and he does a kickflip,

02:08:46.160 which is he jumps in the air,

02:08:47.960 the board flips one time

02:08:49.740 under the feet

02:08:50.320 and then feet back on it

02:08:51.380 and lands it.

02:08:52.280 Rodney Mullen invented it.

02:08:53.400 If it flips the other way

02:08:54.820 where the foot goes forward

02:08:55.760 with the heel,

02:08:56.340 heel flip, 0.99

02:08:56.700 Rodney Mullen invented it.

02:08:57.560 If it spins and flips,

02:08:58.840 Rodney Mullen invented it.

02:08:59.760 Tree flip.

02:09:00.220 Tree flip, yeah.

02:09:01.740 Rodney Mullen just basically

02:09:03.020 invented everything

02:09:04.200 all modern skateboarders do.

02:09:05.580 And everyone is a derivative

02:09:06.840 of him for the most part.

02:09:08.420 There's other influential skateboarders,

02:09:09.880 Natas Kapis,

02:09:10.520 Mark Gonzalez,

02:09:11.180 Antoniok, of course,

02:09:12.300 Chris Miller.

02:09:12.880 There's a bunch of tricks

02:09:13.500 named after these guys.

02:09:14.800 Mike Smith,

02:09:15.540 the inventor of the Smith grind.

02:09:17.120 These, you know.

02:09:17.920 Well, I feel like I threw

02:09:18.580 Tony Alva under the bus earlier.

02:09:19.880 I would like to point out

02:09:20.540 that he invented the kick turn.

02:09:21.860 He was the first to go up a ramp,

02:09:23.180 turn around,

02:09:23.880 and come back down.

02:09:24.640 Yeah, that's crazy.

02:09:25.280 That's why it's

02:09:25.700 Tony Alva, T-A, turn around.

02:09:27.580 Ah.

02:09:28.180 Now, I'd like to comment

02:09:29.700 on Rodney Mullen's impossible.

02:09:31.440 Go on.

02:09:32.220 Rodney Mullen never actually

02:09:33.500 completed the challenge.

02:09:35.360 Oh, my goodness.

02:09:36.620 Blasphemy.

02:09:37.300 No.

02:09:38.100 So, Peralta said,

02:09:40.180 I bet you can't make it flip

02:09:41.500 on the other axis.

02:09:42.660 So, I'll hold up

02:09:43.380 this little skateboard

02:09:43.980 right here in my hands, right?

02:09:45.220 Kickflip goes like this.

02:09:46.540 It flips around

02:09:47.440 very easily like that.

02:09:49.640 What Peralta wanted to see

02:09:50.920 was this.

02:09:52.000 Like the board.

02:09:52.940 How do I get this on camera?

02:09:54.260 The board doing a backflip.

02:09:56.140 Oh.

02:09:57.000 What Rodney Mullen did

02:09:58.140 was he wrapped it around his foot.

02:10:01.300 Technically.

02:10:02.040 Means to an end.

02:10:02.980 Completing the challenge.

02:10:03.880 However, however,

02:10:06.640 wrapping your foot

02:10:07.960 technically makes the board

02:10:09.400 flip end over end.

02:10:10.900 But this has turned,

02:10:12.220 it is not a,

02:10:13.240 it is not a board flip.

02:10:14.780 It is, it is

02:10:15.800 using your foot to,

02:10:17.920 so here's the issue.

02:10:18.820 The reason he thought

02:10:19.560 it was impossible

02:10:20.080 was that if you flip it

02:10:21.000 end over end,

02:10:21.540 the axis would make it flip

02:10:22.640 the other way as well.

02:10:24.400 So, it would never complete

02:10:25.660 a full end over end rotation.

02:10:27.480 It would flip on both axes.

02:10:30.240 By using.

02:10:30.620 Is that the issue?

02:10:30.940 That is the issue

02:10:31.980 with an end over end flip.

02:10:32.920 Aside from the fact

02:10:33.440 of the size of the board,

02:10:34.480 the issue is when you smack it,

02:10:36.220 it will try to rotate

02:10:37.040 on both axes.

02:10:38.180 By putting your foot on it,

02:10:39.460 it prevents one axis

02:10:40.980 from spinning

02:10:42.040 while the other maintains.

02:10:44.040 That being said,

02:10:45.440 the impossible flip

02:10:46.900 or the zero flip,

02:10:48.560 as some people have called it,

02:10:49.680 has since been accomplished

02:10:51.000 in which the board

02:10:52.760 snaps down

02:10:53.840 and flips clean

02:10:54.920 end over end

02:10:55.740 without any contact

02:10:56.940 and has landed.

02:10:57.780 Who did it?

02:10:58.200 And it's all over it.

02:10:59.560 You've never seen it.

02:10:59.880 It's all over Instagram.

02:11:01.560 Sure.

02:11:02.060 Seems like a good way

02:11:02.920 to credit card yourself.

02:11:04.040 Yeah, totally.

02:11:04.560 Popsicle.

02:11:06.020 Let's see if I can.

02:11:07.060 Oh, I searched for zero flip

02:11:07.960 and something comes up.

02:11:09.440 This is all so niche

02:11:10.700 and nobody cares.

02:11:11.880 You guys don't understand

02:11:13.000 the,

02:11:14.280 let's see,

02:11:14.840 where do we go?

02:11:15.560 No, the problem

02:11:16.140 is when you search for zero,

02:11:17.800 it just brings up

02:11:18.320 zero skateboarding.

02:11:19.740 That's a problem?

02:11:21.460 Let's try.

02:11:22.940 When you're not looking

02:11:23.900 for zero skateboarding.

02:11:26.100 Some people call it

02:11:26.900 the impossible flip.

02:11:28.200 Let's see if this short

02:11:32.080 has it.

02:11:33.200 No.

02:11:33.980 That was a dusty hard flip.

02:11:35.400 Yeah.

02:11:35.740 It's dusty hard flip.

02:11:39.860 It's hard,

02:11:40.720 it's hard because zero

02:11:41.900 is the name of a company

02:11:43.460 and so,

02:11:45.140 let's talk about that.

02:11:46.940 The history of zero.

02:11:50.180 Anybody see Toy Story?

02:11:52.900 Yeah.

02:11:53.780 Anybody remember

02:11:54.560 Sid's shirt?

02:11:56.000 Sid the bad kid?

02:11:57.160 Wait,

02:11:57.460 I think I might have

02:11:57.980 found it.

02:11:59.000 Yeah,

02:11:59.200 Jimmy,

02:11:59.380 no,

02:11:59.740 no,

02:12:00.160 no.

02:12:02.780 That was just

02:12:03.520 video game 1.00

02:12:03.960 stupid nonsense. 1.00

02:12:09.300 There you go. 1.00

02:12:10.120 This is,

02:12:10.680 this is a really

02:12:11.300 crappy video of it.

02:12:13.000 You're giving this

02:12:13.780 kid the credit?

02:12:14.960 Hey,

02:12:15.260 Blake Tech,

02:12:16.100 shout out.

02:12:17.760 It's called

02:12:18.300 the zero flip,

02:12:19.060 right?

02:12:19.220 So, 1.00

02:12:20.460 this video sucks, 0.99

02:12:21.780 but you can see, 0.99

02:12:22.600 it flips completely on the,

02:12:25.280 It's like a tray flip

02:12:25.840 that doesn't flip.

02:12:26.800 All right.

02:12:27.220 It flips on the back.

02:12:27.900 What was his name?

02:12:28.300 Blake Tech?

02:12:29.200 Blake Tech.

02:12:29.940 Wow.

02:12:30.320 Back axis.

02:12:32.280 Let's try impossible flip. 1.00

02:12:33.320 Imagine he's watching

02:12:34.300 this right now.

02:12:35.320 He is.

02:12:37.940 Impossible late flip.

02:12:39.980 It's hard to search for.

02:12:41.000 Skateboard technology is crazy.

02:12:42.340 I mean,

02:12:42.560 skateboard terminology is crazy.

02:12:44.400 The technology is not that crazy.

02:12:45.300 It's just a piece of wood

02:12:46.260 without wrapping the back foot.

02:12:49.120 Is this Reddit?

02:12:50.200 I don't know.

02:12:51.480 Good luck.

02:12:52.840 Yeah.

02:12:53.160 Anyway,

02:12:53.540 I found a clip

02:12:54.340 and that's a really old one.

02:12:55.820 So,

02:12:56.080 but there are way better ones

02:12:56.860 on Instagram.

02:12:57.260 I watch skateboarding

02:12:57.840 on Instagram all the time.

02:12:58.680 There are people who,

02:12:59.580 they call a zero flip

02:13:00.440 and it flips completely

02:13:02.320 end over end.

02:13:03.560 Cool.

02:13:03.780 And they land.

02:13:04.360 So,

02:13:04.780 not to take away

02:13:05.360 from Rodney Mullen though.

02:13:06.480 No,

02:13:06.640 of course.

02:13:06.940 I mean,

02:13:07.120 inventing all of these things

02:13:08.140 is crazy,

02:13:08.700 but yeah,

02:13:09.800 just,

02:13:10.120 just,

02:13:10.660 you know.

02:13:10.800 I've got some Rodney stories 0.94

02:13:11.840 if anybody's interested.

02:13:12.960 Just real quick,

02:13:13.520 one final thought

02:13:14.020 before we get into it.

02:13:15.300 The reason I take issue

02:13:16.180 is because I was,

02:13:17.500 I learned how to do

02:13:18.840 the nollie endo flip

02:13:19.820 because I was trying to,

02:13:21.920 I was trying to do

02:13:22.880 a nollie zero flip. 0.99

02:13:24.280 Oh,

02:13:24.480 we called it impossible flip.

02:13:26.700 Impossible

02:13:27.060 is the name of a trick

02:13:28.340 where your foot wraps

02:13:29.260 around the back of the board

02:13:30.160 and it goes end over end.

02:13:31.540 An impossible flip

02:13:32.580 would be just flipping

02:13:34.220 end over end.

02:13:35.440 And so,

02:13:35.860 I was at the Wilson Skate Park

02:13:36.620 in Chicago

02:13:37.020 and I said,

02:13:38.360 I bet.

02:13:38.580 That's a fun skate park.

02:13:39.500 Yeah.

02:13:39.860 I said,

02:13:40.140 I bet I can nollie, 0.90

02:13:42.220 that means nose ollie,

02:13:43.180 off the nose

02:13:43.680 and make it flip end over end

02:13:44.780 and land it

02:13:45.320 if I go as fast as possible.

02:13:47.340 So,

02:13:47.760 I went as fast as I could,

02:13:49.180 went up the bank

02:13:49.700 and slammed it

02:13:50.640 and it went straight up

02:13:52.020 and just didn't go

02:13:53.320 all the way around

02:13:53.860 and so then,

02:13:55.300 eventually,

02:13:56.100 I just kicked it

02:13:57.060 to make it go

02:13:58.140 the other half.

02:13:58.680 So,

02:13:58.800 it's a half end over

02:13:59.640 half flip

02:14:00.160 and that's how I invented it.

02:14:01.740 So,

02:14:02.160 you get naming rights

02:14:03.220 when you invent it.

02:14:04.060 Actually,

02:14:04.540 fun fact,

02:14:05.660 Wilson Skate Park

02:14:06.440 is where I got second place

02:14:07.780 to a man

02:14:08.360 for the first time.

02:14:09.100 But so,

02:14:10.680 anyway,

02:14:11.320 having personally been like,

02:14:12.640 I will get the end over end flip

02:14:14.500 and could not get it

02:14:16.480 to have people be like,

02:14:17.800 Rodney did it.

02:14:18.380 I'm like,

02:14:18.620 well,

02:14:18.740 he wrapped his foot.

02:14:20.200 I want the,

02:14:21.580 and then some kid did it,

02:14:22.640 zero flip.

02:14:23.160 It's been done.

02:14:23.840 True.

02:14:24.840 All right,

02:14:25.280 I got a wild one.

02:14:26.560 I was in Culver City

02:14:28.040 at a random dive bar

02:14:30.780 and I see a very strange looking man

02:14:33.660 standing out the front.

02:14:35.440 I walked past

02:14:36.020 and he says in a very,

02:14:37.880 well,

02:14:38.040 I would call it an English accent.

02:14:39.180 He goes,

02:14:40.000 excuse me,

02:14:40.960 are you Richard Jackson?

02:14:42.240 I'm like,

02:14:43.000 I don't know if I've told you this one,

02:14:44.000 Tim.

02:14:44.180 I'm like,

02:14:44.460 yeah,

02:14:44.840 yeah,

02:14:45.060 I am.

02:14:45.440 He's like,

02:14:46.040 I would love to buy you a beer.

02:14:47.380 I'm a big fan.

02:14:48.240 I'm like,

02:14:48.680 okay,

02:14:49.300 yeah,

02:14:49.560 sure.

02:14:49.800 I would never say no to a beer.

02:14:51.420 So,

02:14:51.840 we go inside.

02:14:52.840 We sit down at the bar

02:14:53.820 and I start thinking 0.91

02:14:54.480 this guy's definitely crazy. 0.68

02:14:56.700 He's saying crazy stuff. 0.97

02:14:58.080 Like,

02:14:58.500 as he's ordering the beer,

02:14:59.340 he goes,

02:14:59.860 did you know

02:15:00.340 that Tony Hawk

02:15:01.320 and the Bones Brigade

02:15:01.900 came to my house

02:15:02.680 in 1985?

02:15:03.760 Yeah,

02:15:03.980 they were all there.

02:15:04.720 It was amazing.

02:15:05.440 I'm like,

02:15:05.860 all right, 0.84

02:15:06.360 you're in a nut job. 0.82

02:15:07.240 Like, 0.93

02:15:07.380 I'm kind of backing off a little

02:15:08.460 and then we get the drink

02:15:10.300 and then he's just saying

02:15:12.960 all this crazy stuff

02:15:13.800 and then he eventually says,

02:15:15.320 oh,

02:15:15.660 excuse me,

02:15:16.160 barkeep,

02:15:16.940 could you change the channel

02:15:18.080 to Jay Leno?

02:15:19.120 I'm about to be on.

02:15:19.980 I go,

02:15:20.180 oh, 1.00

02:15:20.300 he's definitely nuts. 0.99

02:15:22.400 They changed the channel. 0.96

02:15:23.780 There he is on Leno.

02:15:25.280 It's Danny Harrison.

02:15:26.440 It's George Harrison's son

02:15:27.880 and he was not lying

02:15:29.860 at any point

02:15:31.240 and then he goes,

02:15:32.620 yeah,

02:15:32.760 I know all of them.

02:15:33.580 Would you like to meet Rodney?

02:15:34.720 So I met Rodney

02:15:35.560 through Danny Harrison.

02:15:36.820 He called me one day.

02:15:38.780 He said,

02:15:39.220 Rodney's at the office.

02:15:39.820 Should I send a car?

02:15:41.240 And like a SUV

02:15:42.560 Secret Service style thing

02:15:44.740 pulls up,

02:15:45.720 whisks me off to his office

02:15:46.820 and there's Rodney Mullen.

02:15:48.240 So this guy calls it

02:15:49.520 a monster flip.

02:15:51.860 Oh,

02:15:52.100 there you go.

02:15:52.460 Yeah,

02:15:52.580 there it is.

02:15:53.180 So the moral of the story

02:15:55.380 is never turn down a beer.

02:15:56.880 Never.

02:15:57.560 To be fair,

02:15:58.420 the people who posted

02:15:59.500 also put zero flip in it.

02:16:00.760 So I don't think,

02:16:02.080 I've never heard it

02:16:02.860 called a monster flip.

02:16:05.120 Boom.

02:16:05.760 The board flips.

02:16:06.360 Yeah,

02:16:06.600 okay,

02:16:06.860 there it is.

02:16:07.160 Pretty sick.

02:16:07.720 Yeah,

02:16:08.000 no rep.

02:16:08.740 He just stabilizes it

02:16:09.900 with the proper technique.

02:16:10.900 Okay,

02:16:11.160 what's this guy's name?

02:16:11.840 We've got to shout him out.

02:16:12.800 I don't know if it says.

02:16:16.080 Jerulean?

02:16:17.320 Jerulean,

02:16:17.780 great name.

02:16:18.900 Jerulean?

02:16:20.340 Jerulean. 1.00

02:16:21.620 Damn, 1.00

02:16:22.220 Jerulean. 1.00

02:16:22.440 Well,

02:16:22.740 I think,

02:16:23.180 that is sick.

02:16:24.280 It's amazing.

02:16:25.080 I think we do need

02:16:25.760 to go skate ourselves

02:16:26.420 right now.

02:16:27.100 So this has been

02:16:28.040 a pretty fun conversation.

02:16:29.380 Well,

02:16:29.560 hold on before we go.

02:16:31.880 We've got to make sure

02:16:32.700 we drive traffic

02:16:33.460 to the boonies.

02:16:34.300 You've got to do it.

02:16:35.460 Okay,

02:16:35.940 guys,

02:16:36.680 I want you to click

02:16:37.380 the link below

02:16:38.060 and check out

02:16:38.780 our new YouTube channel

02:16:39.940 where we have a lot more

02:16:41.300 of me talking 0.98

02:16:41.920 absolute trash. 0.98

02:16:43.920 And a lot of skateboarding 0.98

02:16:45.360 featuring Taylor

02:16:46.220 and Tim

02:16:46.860 and Richie

02:16:47.520 and our guests.

02:16:48.720 Exactly.

02:16:49.960 These are the days

02:16:52.140 of skateboarding.

02:16:54.080 It's been in the works

02:16:55.340 for a while.

02:16:55.740 The Instagram is

02:16:56.380 boonieshq.

02:16:57.720 Boonieshq. 0.99

02:16:58.820 B-O-O-N-I-E-S-H-Q. 1.00

02:17:01.460 My man.

02:17:03.180 Right on.

02:17:03.580 What else?

02:17:03.940 Is it YouTube?

02:17:05.320 I don't have the URL

02:17:06.240 on deck, but.

02:17:07.060 Well,

02:17:07.220 we'll go film some stuff today.

02:17:08.300 Maybe we'll put some stuff up.

02:17:09.460 Talk to locals

02:17:10.020 and maybe I'll throw money

02:17:11.180 at kids to do tricks

02:17:11.920 and stuff and be like.

02:17:12.920 There's a thing we call

02:17:13.540 tips for tricks

02:17:14.240 where you go to a skate park

02:17:15.640 and you say like,

02:17:16.700 who's got the hard flip?

02:17:17.680 And if someone does it,

02:17:18.360 you give them five bucks.

02:17:19.320 That does always work.

02:17:20.600 It's fun.

02:17:21.440 It's fun.

02:17:21.800 It's like little mini contests.

02:17:23.940 Precisely.

02:17:24.340 Right on.

02:17:24.900 Okay, everybody.

02:17:25.640 Well, look,

02:17:26.200 this is a special episode

02:17:27.960 of The Culture War.

02:17:28.500 Why?

02:17:28.880 Because it's currently Black Friday,

02:17:30.200 which means we recorded this

02:17:31.020 in advance

02:17:31.420 and we are going to spend time

02:17:32.380 with our families.

02:17:33.380 But I thought it would be

02:17:35.120 prudent to have something up

02:17:38.320 and I've wanted to hang out

02:17:39.600 with Richie, Taylor, and Dennis

02:17:40.980 on the show

02:17:41.420 and talk about skateboarding

02:17:42.340 because it is near and dear

02:17:43.480 to my heart.

02:17:44.520 Wokeness has tried to plague it,

02:17:45.980 but we are going to make it free

02:17:47.480 fun

02:17:47.840 and we are going to make it

02:17:49.200 inclusive in the real way.

02:17:51.120 And we're going to hang out

02:17:51.640 with our families, huh?

02:17:52.700 We're going to hang out

02:17:53.200 with our family.

02:17:53.580 What if I ain't got no family?

02:17:55.220 Well, you got to make one.

02:17:56.560 I fully expect a bunch

02:17:57.840 of volleyballs

02:17:58.480 with painted faces on them

02:17:59.880 when we return.

02:18:00.680 Okay.

02:18:00.840 Awesome.

02:18:02.400 All right.

02:18:02.780 We're going to wrap it up there.

02:18:04.120 It's been a blast.

02:18:05.540 Taylor, Richie, Dennis,

02:18:06.480 thanks for hanging out.

02:18:07.120 We're going to go skate.

02:18:07.860 We're going to make

02:18:08.280 some skate content.

02:18:09.100 We're going to win

02:18:09.420 the Culture War.

02:18:10.500 Worst episode ever.

02:18:11.980 Hope everybody

02:18:12.560 had a good Thanksgiving.

02:18:14.060 Probably not the worst,

02:18:14.940 but definitely in the bottom.

02:18:16.160 No, I'm just kidding.

02:18:16.720 All right, everybody.

02:18:17.520 Thanks for hanging out.

02:18:18.560 We will see you all

02:18:19.360 when we're back

02:18:19.840 from back on Monday.

02:18:20.880 Did you know

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02:18:32.080 are irritated gums

02:18:33.160 and weak enamel?

02:18:34.380 Switch to Sensodyne

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02:18:42.420 Three issues,

02:18:43.300 one answer.

02:18:43.880 One answer.

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The Culture War - Tim Pool - November 24, 2023

The Culture War #39 - Wokeness In Skateboarding, Males Competing In Women's Sports

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