The Culture War - Tim Pool - The Culture War #42 - Fighting Woke Comics, Movies, And Music, Rise Of The Rippaverse w⧸Eric July

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00:00:59.300 On today's episode of The Culture War, we're going to talk about winning The Culture War.

00:01:05.660 And it's a lot to do with movies, video games, comic books especially.

00:01:11.960 But in order to win a culture war, you have to make a culture.

00:01:15.080 Which is why, as we're getting started with this episode, I'm proud to say that together again,

00:01:19.800 TimCast's cover of Smokey Mike and the God King has debuted on iTunes at number one!

00:01:25.640 Honestly, it was kind of funny to wake up and be like, normally we put out a bunch of songs already,

00:01:31.360 and when we do, we're like, hey, let's see if we can make number one by the weekend or something.

00:01:35.800 And then, you know, maybe Friday night, it's like, yes, we hit it!

00:01:38.740 I wake up, the song's only been up since midnight.

00:01:41.300 So we're talking like people at three or four in the morning buying the song.

00:01:45.780 And I wake up and Together Again by Smokey Mike and the God King, performed and covered by us,

00:01:51.500 is number one on iTunes.

00:01:53.260 It bumped down a little bit as the day is winding on, but I guess when the song released, you know.

00:01:58.020 So we put out the song, it's doing really, really well.

00:02:00.760 We're putting a bunch of marketing behind it.

00:02:02.340 For those that aren't familiar, we released this song.

00:02:05.080 It's out officially today at thebestsongever.com.

00:02:07.480 We took a song that was written by Jeremy Boring and Michael Knowles called Together Again,

00:02:12.580 and they did this as a big F-you to the music industry that was trying to lock them out.

00:02:17.000 Jeremy Boring had offered $150,000, 100 times the market rate to perform a song and was rejected.

00:02:24.580 I assume, I think Jeremy assumes it's for political reasons.

00:02:27.540 And so we did a modern version covering their song once again as we're going to team up with them,

00:02:33.820 we're going to give a middle finger to the music industry,

00:02:35.540 we're going to make music, and we're going to chart.

00:02:37.880 They don't want to write about us.

00:02:39.240 They told us explicitly F-you.

00:02:41.320 So now we launched this song together at the Daily Wire.

00:02:44.380 We're both teaming up to promote it, and we debuted on iTunes at number one.

00:02:47.960 Let's see how it goes.

00:02:49.140 I'm hoping that the song can chart fairly well,

00:02:51.580 and then we can continue to laugh at the music industry because they can't shut us out.

00:02:54.720 But speaking of industries trying to shut people out,

00:02:57.520 hanging out with us today to talk about winning the culture war is Eric July of the Ripaverse.

00:03:02.160 Chris, you launched this new comic book series, and you're wildly successful now.

00:03:08.740 Do you want to introduce yourself?

00:03:10.060 Yes.

00:03:10.600 By the way, it feels good to be back, man.

00:03:12.540 I appreciate y'all having me.

00:03:13.780 But yeah, Ripaverse, it was only, believe it or not, only a year and a half ago

00:03:17.500 when I launched that thing, which is crazy, with ISOM,

00:03:21.260 and then that turned into a $3.7 million campaign.

00:03:25.660 And we had another multimillion-dollar campaign after this,

00:03:28.840 and we just released our first non-ISOM product in AlphaCore number one,

00:03:35.200 which was wrote by the great legendary Chuck Dixon.

00:03:38.400 And now that's a million-dollar campaign.

00:03:40.340 So a lot has happened in a year and a half.

00:03:43.200 My life has been completely changed.

00:03:45.160 But obviously for the better, man, I'm really blessed to be in this situation, man.

00:03:49.920 And I asked Ian to join us because Ian is a huge comic book nerd.

00:03:52.860 I actually have comics right here on the table with me, the Infinity Gauntlet.

00:03:55.800 That's my favorite, man.

00:03:56.700 Dude.

00:03:57.140 My favorite, yeah.

00:03:57.760 I used to, in like 1993, I got into comics pretty hard.

00:03:59.940 My buddy gave me Infinity Gauntlet number four where Thanos,

00:04:02.880 basically where he starts, this is number three,

00:04:05.300 where he starts killing the heroes.

00:04:06.840 Like that's the episode where he goes ballistic,

00:04:09.560 and on the cover it's just Thanos saying, come and get me.

00:04:11.480 Come and get it.

00:04:12.200 Come and get me.

00:04:12.580 Come and get it.

00:04:13.220 He's crazy, dude.

00:04:14.400 So I'm glad to hear.

00:04:15.180 Were you always into comics back then?

00:04:16.820 Yeah, for sure.

00:04:17.880 I mean, we came up in an era where the out of prints,

00:04:22.280 like comic book stuff was like at its apex, you know,

00:04:25.120 in the 90s where you had Batman, the animated series,

00:04:27.720 X-Men, the animated series.

00:04:28.860 You want to throw Spider-Man in there as well.

00:04:31.420 So obviously I was a little lucky,

00:04:34.420 but my mother introduced me to Flash when I was a kid.

00:04:37.280 And I mean, it was a rabbit hole from there.

00:04:39.780 So yeah, very, very early on was I in the comics.

00:04:43.280 And I think every youngster kind of has this dream.

00:04:45.720 I don't want to write this character or something like that when they get older.

00:04:50.820 I'll never actualize that because I'm in a way better position being able to do my own stuff.

00:04:56.340 But yeah, man, it was the 90s just coming up in that era, man.

00:05:00.340 It was hard not to be a comic book fan.

00:05:02.240 Let's tackle the first component of this and then we can go wild.

00:05:04.780 I'm really excited to talk about how movies have taken characters,

00:05:07.900 everything that's going on with like the Marvel's failure and all that stuff.

00:05:10.660 But the first thing is basically comic books are going woke.

00:05:14.340 I remember a New Warriors when Marvel actually created characters Snowflake and Safe Space.

00:05:21.380 The New New Warriors.

00:05:22.520 Yeah, super cringe.

00:05:23.920 And so here comes this guy, Eric July, and he's like,

00:05:26.040 I'm going to make just like regular comics and bang, you're a millionaire.

00:05:29.100 It happened literally just like that.

00:05:31.560 You worded it that way, but that's exactly how it happened.

00:05:33.860 I just kind of, obviously we have this like reverse code of ethics is what we call it.

00:05:38.100 And it's more of a guideline where my folks and the other writers and everything,

00:05:42.820 where we say, this is who we are.

00:05:44.720 This is what we're going to abide by.

00:05:46.700 And this is something that the audience can hold us to.

00:05:49.120 And in it, we talk about some of the other issues,

00:05:51.100 because a lot of it was content related problems.

00:05:53.340 You talk about what is woke.

00:05:55.580 But there's other issues that I had with comic books as well.

00:05:58.780 Continuity issues, lack of canon, stuff like that.

00:06:02.360 And that's all stuff that we put in our code of ethics.

00:06:05.280 And we promised people a universe, not just like a one-off thing that I was,

00:06:08.740 it wasn't a get-rich-quick scheme.

00:06:10.440 It was something that I wanted people to be able to get invested in.

00:06:12.800 And I think that's why it worked, because we let people know who we were,

00:06:16.620 what it is that we're trying to do.

00:06:18.980 We were very, very transparent.

00:06:21.240 But yeah, that demand, the Riververse show that that demand was truly there.

00:06:25.040 People have watched their characters,

00:06:27.220 especially with the big two, be just completely bastardized.

00:06:30.620 And they wanted an alternative, man.

00:06:32.300 They made, like, the son of Superman is gay, things like that.

00:06:35.960 And Tim Drake is gay now.

00:06:37.760 Oh, really?

00:06:38.520 Oh, yeah.

00:06:38.880 Tim Drake's gay now.

00:06:39.980 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:40.460 He's more bisexual.

00:06:42.340 Yeah, Tim Drake and the son of Superman?

00:06:43.940 Yes.

00:06:44.420 It's funny how that works, isn't it?

00:06:45.580 It's like, dude, make new characters.

00:06:46.540 Yeah, exactly.

00:06:47.460 That was always my thing.

00:06:49.040 And I see a lot of people saying the same thing.

00:06:50.500 I'm like, dude, I don't care if you make a character who is, like,

00:06:53.200 LGBTQ, black, white, Asian, whatever.

00:06:55.300 Just make the character.

00:06:56.540 Don't take Iron Man and turn Iron Man into a black woman.

00:06:59.500 It used to be about action.

00:07:00.900 Like, if Wolverine, you know, Jean Grey and Cyclops were married,

00:07:03.660 but Wolverine falls in love with Jean Grey.

00:07:05.560 And, like, you see a scene where they're talking,

00:07:06.940 and then Cyclops is like, whatever.

00:07:08.480 And then it shows Wolverine, and he's, like, sad.

00:07:10.720 But then it goes on to the next action, action.

00:07:13.900 Nowadays, well, in these weird comics, you'll get, like, Wolverine sad.

00:07:17.120 The next scene will be Wolverine crying at the bed, like,

00:07:19.340 I'm so sad.

00:07:20.200 What's wrong?

00:07:21.100 Psychological trauma.

00:07:21.820 Like, no one cares, dude.

00:07:23.520 Show it in the action.

00:07:24.560 I'm pretty sure if they were to write the Logan, Scott Summers,

00:07:28.580 Jean Grey, you know, love tryst thing today.

00:07:31.320 They'd show it in the bed and all that weird crap.

00:07:33.100 And they'd be like, Wolverine, we're not excluding you.

00:07:35.660 We're a polycule now.

00:07:36.780 Let's all come together.

00:07:37.720 No, they actually did.

00:07:39.160 This is right.

00:07:39.640 They did that.

00:07:40.640 No, I'm not even joking.

00:07:41.980 There was a bit where they're, like, in a –

00:07:44.500 they also did some weird thing with –

00:07:46.620 what's his name from Guardians as well.

00:07:48.920 I think that was more of a shot at Chris Pratt,

00:07:50.860 where they made him part of this, like, weird threesome.

00:07:54.680 But, yeah, they're trying to do this throughple thing with –

00:07:57.000 with Jean Grey and Cyclops as well as Wolverine.

00:08:02.820 That was right around the time that I completely checked.

00:08:04.820 They're fucking Cyclops.

00:08:05.180 Watch your claws, Logan.

00:08:07.460 Don't open your eyes.

00:08:08.800 Not even joking.

00:08:09.800 Not even joking.

00:08:10.820 So, yeah, it's –

00:08:12.240 nobody wants to read that stuff.

00:08:14.120 These guys –

00:08:14.540 look, this is what's happening in the industry is that

00:08:16.680 these people are writing themselves often into these characters,

00:08:20.860 and they've just effectively just hijacked them.

00:08:23.460 It's not about –

00:08:24.340 and I think that's what separates the greats.

00:08:26.160 I've had this discussion with Chuck Dixon a lot,

00:08:29.020 and just being able to work with them,

00:08:30.800 it really does show this,

00:08:31.900 where he wants to get to know the characters.

00:08:33.620 He's not, like, trying to say,

00:08:34.920 what would I do as Chuck Dixon?

00:08:36.460 It's what the character would do,

00:08:38.700 and I'm going to write around that,

00:08:40.800 and it can be a new, refreshing story.

00:08:42.420 With the mainstream cats,

00:08:43.920 what we're getting is these people have their ideology,

00:08:46.680 or whatever political, social political position,

00:08:49.460 and really, to be fair,

00:08:50.800 this is the only platform where they can even get away with it,

00:08:53.220 because if they try to do their own thing with their own property,

00:08:55.520 nobody's reading that.

00:08:56.560 But I think they're totally aware of that.

00:08:58.260 They're like, look,

00:08:59.140 this is the only way that I can sort of platform this sort of stuff,

00:09:02.300 so I'd rather run Batman into the ground.

00:09:04.820 I don't know if you guys know,

00:09:06.040 there was a story –

00:09:07.620 just, again,

00:09:08.420 even if you take the sexuality stuff,

00:09:10.900 they're still –

00:09:11.460 they don't understand these characters.

00:09:12.860 The story where Batman recently

00:09:16.120 was going over this –

00:09:17.400 I guess it was a riot,

00:09:18.440 if you want to call it that.

00:09:19.320 People were looting.

00:09:20.540 And Batman's gliding over it,

00:09:22.500 and instead of,

00:09:23.800 as Batman would do it,

00:09:25.120 somehow disperse with this whole crowd,

00:09:27.740 he basically says,

00:09:28.940 yeah, these companies have insurance,

00:09:31.360 and I got something else to do, basically.

00:09:33.320 So out of character, right?

00:09:35.040 Batman would never do stuff like that,

00:09:37.220 but you can tell that's the position

00:09:38.680 of the writer that is.

00:09:41.220 That's what this is.

00:09:41.880 In Injustice 2,

00:09:44.380 I like this line where –

00:09:45.600 you played Injustice 2?

00:09:46.360 Yes, yes.

00:09:47.200 It's like the very beginning,

00:09:48.480 you're breaking into Arkham Asylum.

00:09:49.880 For those that don't know,

00:09:50.460 this is where all the criminals are held,

00:09:51.960 and Batman is just mercilessly beating the inmates

00:09:55.160 as he's fighting his way through,

00:09:57.060 and then he's with Damien,

00:09:59.340 Damien Wayne,

00:09:59.860 and he's like,

00:10:00.440 no killing.

00:10:01.500 And then Damien's like,

00:10:02.380 yeah, but TBI's not a problem for you.

00:10:04.440 I just love that line.

00:10:05.940 Because the way Injustice shows,

00:10:08.080 the skull's cracking.

00:10:09.080 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:10:09.620 But it's a good point.

00:10:11.100 Batman would beat people.

00:10:12.940 He wouldn't kill them,

00:10:14.040 but TBI.

00:10:15.500 He'd put hands on them, for sure.

00:10:16.360 Yeah, so I don't want to jump too much

00:10:18.800 into video games already,

00:10:19.820 but have you played Baldur's Gate 3?

00:10:22.660 I have not.

00:10:23.320 I have not.

00:10:23.820 So I'll just lightly touch on this,

00:10:25.940 but I want to make sure we go back

00:10:26.800 and start off where we are

00:10:27.900 with the comic books and stuff.

00:10:29.180 But someone made a mod

00:10:30.860 for Baldur's Gate 3.

00:10:32.600 There's a character in the game

00:10:33.700 called Dame Aelin.

00:10:35.500 She's an asimer.

00:10:36.600 Is that how you pronounce it?

00:10:37.200 Yeah, I think so.

00:10:37.800 Like half angel or whatever?

00:10:39.140 And she's a lesbian.

00:10:40.220 Half celestial.

00:10:41.080 Yeah, half celestial.

00:10:42.060 She's the daughter of Salune,

00:10:43.360 the god of the moon.

00:10:44.980 And she's a lesbian.

00:10:46.760 And so when you save her,

00:10:48.360 she finds, you know,

00:10:49.420 she can, depending on how you play the game,

00:10:50.800 find her love, Isabel.

00:10:52.140 And then there's like,

00:10:53.000 they show the lesbian romance.

00:10:55.280 Someone made a mod

00:10:56.200 to make Dame Aelin into Sir Aelin,

00:10:58.540 a man,

00:10:59.800 to,

00:11:00.720 so that's all they said.

00:11:01.940 All they said is,

00:11:02.500 Aelin can be a man.

00:11:03.200 Here you go.

00:11:03.940 And then,

00:11:04.340 but it turns the relationship

00:11:05.300 into a heterosexual.

00:11:06.660 Yeah, yeah.

00:11:07.140 Nexus mods.

00:11:07.940 The modification website.

00:11:09.600 Of course.

00:11:09.900 banned the modification

00:11:11.380 saying it removes diversity

00:11:13.000 from the game,

00:11:13.680 so it's not allowed.

00:11:14.440 It adds diversity.

00:11:15.400 It does add diversity.

00:11:16.860 It gives you more options.

00:11:18.120 It makes a gay character straight.

00:11:19.060 That's diverse.

00:11:19.660 Or a man.

00:11:21.620 But it's your choice.

00:11:22.900 Play the game.

00:11:23.380 No, they're like,

00:11:24.080 anything that removes diversity

00:11:25.360 and inclusivity from video games

00:11:26.520 will not be allowed on the site.

00:11:27.540 That's part of the weird thing

00:11:28.420 is that they think that

00:11:29.280 forcing homosexuality

00:11:30.660 means diversity,

00:11:31.620 but the diversity is the ability

00:11:32.920 to be homosexual

00:11:33.620 or heterosexual.

00:11:34.900 Yeah, it's about being like,

00:11:36.220 maybe some people wanted to see

00:11:37.420 a straight religion,

00:11:38.360 and maybe some people didn't.

00:11:39.540 But I think that shows

00:11:40.800 the agenda of these people,

00:11:42.780 as you were mentioning,

00:11:43.420 is they're trying to force

00:11:45.440 their worldview into your world

00:11:47.400 and take from you your choice.

00:11:49.600 Absolutely.

00:11:50.040 I don't remember that in the 90s.

00:11:51.620 Wouldn't a thing.

00:11:52.500 Like, do you guys,

00:11:53.120 were you reading Image?

00:11:53.960 Did you read Image comics ever?

00:11:55.000 A little bit, yeah, yeah.

00:11:55.840 That whole Todd McFarlane spawn

00:11:57.280 and like, I mean,

00:11:58.280 it was just hot action.

00:12:00.440 Just like dark, gritty, hot action.

00:12:02.340 I was like into Marvel and Image.

00:12:04.960 I never really got into DC as much.

00:12:06.760 I think you guys were both into DC.

00:12:08.120 I mostly just watched cartoons,

00:12:09.440 but I would read comics sometimes

00:12:10.440 because we would hang out

00:12:11.140 at a comic shop

00:12:11.700 to play Magic the Gathering.

00:12:12.880 And so I was never the person

00:12:15.840 where it's like,

00:12:16.360 oh, I can't wait for the next issue

00:12:18.140 to come out.

00:12:18.560 Like, what happens?

00:12:19.220 That was never where I was at.

00:12:20.140 I used to walk this dog

00:12:21.040 over to the comic shop

00:12:21.940 and tie him up outside

00:12:22.680 and go in and read JC Comics

00:12:23.940 and kind of what were you like

00:12:24.880 your top comics in the beginning?

00:12:26.360 Oh, in the beginning, for sure.

00:12:27.720 It was Flash.

00:12:29.000 Wiley was Flash coming up,

00:12:30.760 but all that detective comic stuff

00:12:32.280 that Chuck ironically was writing

00:12:34.840 at the time, Chuck Dixon.

00:12:36.760 You know, that was around the time

00:12:38.060 you also had like Nightfall

00:12:39.320 and Bane, all that.

00:12:40.540 Like, man, what a time

00:12:41.920 to kind of come up.

00:12:43.440 During that window.

00:12:44.620 Batman is back broken.

00:12:45.840 Yeah, yeah.

00:12:46.300 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:12:47.720 You know, people,

00:12:48.400 that was huge.

00:12:49.260 People don't realize,

00:12:51.040 I know you guys do,

00:12:52.540 you read comics,

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00:14:25.660 of like The Boys

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00:14:27.900 comic books were that.

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00:14:31.220 who had their programs,

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00:14:47.740 So your comics,

00:14:48.420 you take them into the comic shop

00:14:49.400 and you could trade them in

00:14:50.360 for other comics.

00:14:51.200 And like you'd get one

00:14:52.060 that would be the first appearance

00:14:52.980 of like Carnage.

00:14:53.700 I have that,

00:14:54.400 you know,

00:14:54.620 that Spider-Man villain

00:14:55.420 and it went up to $60.

00:14:56.780 I was like,

00:14:57.080 oh my God,

00:14:57.660 I put it in like a hard case.

00:14:59.200 Like I got it in the plastic box.

00:15:00.800 That was cool.

00:15:01.240 That's kind of done.

00:15:02.040 These,

00:15:02.260 do you find like print,

00:15:03.380 because printing is so prolific now

00:15:05.120 with the internet and eBay?

00:15:06.720 Well,

00:15:07.020 I do think it's still a demand.

00:15:09.040 There's that secondary market

00:15:10.180 is still there.

00:15:11.440 It's just a,

00:15:12.140 it's a little different.

00:15:13.800 You know,

00:15:14.320 we get creative with our stuff

00:15:16.000 because we understand that is,

00:15:17.520 that collectability is,

00:15:18.660 is also part of the market.

00:15:19.960 So we do,

00:15:20.960 for example,

00:15:21.640 what is called a signature series

00:15:24.600 by CGC,

00:15:25.800 right?

00:15:26.220 CGC.

00:15:26.820 So that's the number one grader

00:15:28.640 in comics for people

00:15:30.520 that don't know what that is.

00:15:31.560 It's basically you get your comics.

00:15:33.360 If you take them to CGC,

00:15:34.760 you get a little grade,

00:15:36.520 you know,

00:15:36.880 it can range nines,

00:15:38.940 states,

00:15:39.800 whatever,

00:15:40.280 10 is gem mint.

00:15:41.260 That's the best you can,

00:15:42.260 you can get.

00:15:43.260 Well,

00:15:43.420 signature series is a new one

00:15:44.780 that they kind of,

00:15:45.660 that we do a lot of

00:15:47.400 where we'll sign it,

00:15:48.620 right?

00:15:48.800 Like I have the writer assigned

00:15:49.980 it.

00:15:50.180 I signed the ice sums

00:15:51.840 that Chuck Dixon signed

00:15:53.020 alpha core books

00:15:54.500 and he sent it to them

00:15:55.740 and they get this gold label.

00:15:57.320 And so there's some

00:15:57.820 collectability there as well.

00:15:59.740 And we also like try

00:16:00.680 to limit our prints.

00:16:02.180 We,

00:16:02.640 we do what is called

00:16:03.680 a mass print for,

00:16:05.480 for a particular cover.

00:16:06.680 So we can always have

00:16:07.900 it in stock.

00:16:08.360 They never have to go

00:16:09.080 anywhere else to get it.

00:16:10.460 That's usually our cover D,

00:16:11.840 but the other ones

00:16:12.560 we'll like,

00:16:13.080 we'll let people know,

00:16:13.900 Hey,

00:16:14.080 we only printed 27,000

00:16:15.880 or whatever it is of,

00:16:17.040 of this one.

00:16:18.180 So it's still there.

00:16:19.460 It's just a little different.

00:16:20.980 We wanted to stay away

00:16:22.260 from going too crazy.

00:16:23.420 We talk about the nineties.

00:16:24.520 That was one of the negative things.

00:16:25.700 Talk about the image boom

00:16:26.800 as well,

00:16:27.680 where it got crazy

00:16:29.060 with those variants.

00:16:29.900 And that's still a problem

00:16:30.860 that's plaguing this industry

00:16:31.880 where these guys

00:16:32.700 are coming out with

00:16:33.480 obviously to kind of

00:16:34.360 boost their numbers,

00:16:35.180 10,

00:16:36.960 11,

00:16:37.480 12 different variants

00:16:38.740 for the same book.

00:16:39.760 Right.

00:16:40.160 and I'm not,

00:16:42.460 not me personally.

00:16:43.360 I'm not a fan of that.

00:16:45.080 Yeah.

00:16:45.340 So you ever think about

00:16:46.460 printing like,

00:16:47.160 like a gold cup,

00:16:48.560 like literal gold cover

00:16:50.080 or something

00:16:50.500 and selling it for like 60 grand.

00:16:52.020 We could do,

00:16:52.980 yeah,

00:16:53.260 there's some creative.

00:16:54.180 I've seen some definitely guys

00:16:55.300 in the independent market

00:16:56.240 that do some creative,

00:16:57.500 like one-off stuff.

00:16:58.740 Like,

00:16:59.040 and they're,

00:16:59.400 they sell them.

00:17:00.180 We haven't done it yet,

00:17:00.940 but I've seen guys say,

00:17:02.300 Hey,

00:17:02.400 this is the only print

00:17:03.640 of this particular cover

00:17:04.980 and they're selling

00:17:05.840 over like $20,000.

00:17:07.300 That's kind of,

00:17:07.740 it's so crazy to think about

00:17:09.080 the secondary market of media

00:17:11.560 because we don't have it anymore.

00:17:12.920 Right now,

00:17:14.260 like I was mentioning the boys,

00:17:15.500 it's a big show.

00:17:16.240 People are big fans.

00:17:17.040 Gen V came out also doing really well.

00:17:19.000 I'm a,

00:17:19.340 I'm a fan.

00:17:19.780 I like the show

00:17:20.280 and you get a,

00:17:22.960 you get a digital download.

00:17:24.020 You go on Amazon.

00:17:24.920 It's there.

00:17:25.480 That's it.

00:17:26.040 Yeah.

00:17:26.240 There's nothing to own,

00:17:27.460 nothing to sign.

00:17:28.520 No,

00:17:28.980 no memorabilia.

00:17:29.980 Nope.

00:17:30.440 Nothing.

00:17:31.200 Whereas I have,

00:17:33.160 I bought the original

00:17:34.620 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles comic.

00:17:36.160 Ooh.

00:17:36.760 Sealed,

00:17:37.160 graded,

00:17:37.720 everything.

00:17:38.320 Black and white one.

00:17:38.780 Yup.

00:17:39.060 Yup.

00:17:39.420 And I think it's like,

00:17:40.300 it's probably graded like eight

00:17:41.680 or something

00:17:42.120 and it's sealed

00:17:42.900 in a special thing

00:17:44.060 and I'm just like,

00:17:45.160 that's really awesome to have.

00:17:47.320 Yeah.

00:17:47.780 A piece of media

00:17:48.500 that can't be replicated

00:17:49.620 in its original form.

00:17:51.180 I also have,

00:17:52.100 this is the most exciting thing.

00:17:53.300 I have an original pressing vinyl

00:17:55.280 of Siamese Dream

00:17:56.380 by Smashing Pumpkins.

00:17:57.420 Oh,

00:17:57.760 nice.

00:17:58.200 But it's like,

00:17:59.080 these things are so,

00:18:00.340 they feel so good

00:18:01.240 to have this thing,

00:18:02.360 this piece of time.

00:18:03.980 New media doesn't have that.

00:18:04.960 No,

00:18:05.660 I think that is one of the things

00:18:07.360 that I believe makes comics

00:18:09.080 such a unique medium

00:18:10.760 is that I believe that aspect of it

00:18:13.720 and this is why we don't sell like digital.

00:18:16.060 I know we get asked a lot like,

00:18:17.440 hey,

00:18:17.560 why don't you do digital comics?

00:18:19.080 I'm like,

00:18:19.360 I don't really see the demand there,

00:18:21.720 number one.

00:18:22.780 And yeah,

00:18:23.500 like it's something special

00:18:24.820 about actually holding

00:18:25.760 the physical product

00:18:26.740 that's in your hand,

00:18:27.980 no matter what it is

00:18:29.040 and reading it.

00:18:30.820 Like me,

00:18:31.180 yeah,

00:18:31.380 I've read some digital comics,

00:18:32.880 but for me,

00:18:33.540 nothing beats

00:18:34.220 being able to physically

00:18:35.440 have it in your hand

00:18:36.220 and starting to flip through it.

00:18:37.940 It's just a different experience.

00:18:38.940 Have you guys considered

00:18:39.480 doing an animated series?

00:18:41.240 Yes,

00:18:41.600 we did.

00:18:42.640 We dabbed,

00:18:44.520 first dabbed into like animation

00:18:46.100 with ISOM 2's,

00:18:48.800 it was a trailer that we did.

00:18:50.220 It was a trailer that we did

00:18:51.900 and we worked with another company,

00:18:54.940 but this next one that we did

00:18:56.840 with the Alpha Core release,

00:18:58.400 it's a longer,

00:18:59.180 longer format

00:19:00.060 and it's more in-house

00:19:02.020 with some of our own animators.

00:19:04.000 So it's about,

00:19:05.040 I can't remember how long we did,

00:19:06.480 how long that is,

00:19:07.260 like two and a half minutes

00:19:08.540 maybe or something.

00:19:09.440 So we haven't quite done

00:19:10.660 the longer form.

00:19:11.580 It's just a matter of

00:19:12.500 monetization

00:19:14.260 is the creative thing

00:19:15.220 that we gotta figure

00:19:16.360 that bad boy out

00:19:17.380 as far as how that's gonna look.

00:19:18.680 It might be just the age

00:19:19.940 because you don't have

00:19:20.740 to do 30 minutes.

00:19:21.520 That used to be,

00:19:22.160 you know,

00:19:22.340 1990s again,

00:19:23.420 like now we're in the age

00:19:24.340 of like a two minute short,

00:19:26.020 like we're a 30 second short

00:19:27.260 on YouTube even.

00:19:28.360 Yeah.

00:19:28.760 Yeah.

00:19:29.760 I mean,

00:19:31.140 media is becoming,

00:19:32.560 especially with shorts,

00:19:33.520 YouTube shorts,

00:19:34.140 promoting massively.

00:19:35.860 Everything's gotta be a minute.

00:19:37.260 TikTok did this to music.

00:19:38.580 Oh yeah.

00:19:39.020 Song,

00:19:39.380 people started putting out songs

00:19:40.480 that it was just so weird.

00:19:42.520 So,

00:19:42.980 oh man,

00:19:43.400 you go to someone's Spotify

00:19:44.300 and they'll have a hit song

00:19:45.820 you like

00:19:46.200 and there will be

00:19:47.160 slow version,

00:19:49.420 fast version,

00:19:50.800 backwards version,

00:19:51.940 and minute long version

00:19:53.040 because they need to make

00:19:54.400 multiple versions

00:19:55.120 for TikTok

00:19:55.680 instead of making music

00:19:57.380 for people.

00:19:58.280 That's insane.

00:19:59.160 It is crazy.

00:19:59.860 That happened so fast,

00:20:01.000 man,

00:20:01.220 because I mean,

00:20:01.760 we're,

00:20:01.980 my band Backwards

00:20:02.720 is finally about to start

00:20:03.800 getting back into it

00:20:04.800 and you know,

00:20:05.560 we're analyzing the market

00:20:06.840 and how different it was

00:20:08.200 even,

00:20:08.500 I mean,

00:20:08.600 we dropped our album,

00:20:09.840 that was like 2017 right now.

00:20:11.580 We're about to get back into it

00:20:12.780 and it's like so much has changed

00:20:14.020 from that time

00:20:15.000 to now

00:20:15.900 as far as how,

00:20:16.980 and now look,

00:20:17.520 I don't know if it's more of

00:20:18.800 that's how people

00:20:19.620 actually digest.

00:20:20.800 It's like what came first,

00:20:21.720 the chicken or the egg?

00:20:22.540 Is it like

00:20:23.240 the industry itself

00:20:24.540 is trying to push people

00:20:25.660 towards this sort of content

00:20:26.800 or is it like

00:20:27.740 an actual demand?

00:20:28.960 I don't really know.

00:20:29.900 I think it's a demand

00:20:30.580 because there's so much

00:20:31.440 more content.

00:20:32.240 So it takes a longer

00:20:33.380 to search through

00:20:34.160 a lot of stuff.

00:20:34.720 It's better to get a clip

00:20:35.500 of 30 different things

00:20:36.760 in a half hour

00:20:37.620 rather than one thing

00:20:38.820 for 30 minutes.

00:20:39.560 Not necessarily better,

00:20:40.540 but it's an option

00:20:41.680 that people seem

00:20:42.300 to be gravitating towards.

00:20:43.300 So let's go back in time

00:20:44.160 before recorded music.

00:20:46.460 You went to see a show play,

00:20:48.020 a band play

00:20:48.840 or a musician play.

00:20:49.740 It would be for a little while.

00:20:51.100 You'd go to see a show

00:20:52.200 and it's like an hour.

00:20:53.820 Then they put out recordings

00:20:55.660 and now each song

00:20:56.620 is a few minutes,

00:20:57.180 but that album itself

00:20:58.140 you play

00:20:58.560 and it's like,

00:20:59.320 you know,

00:20:59.560 20 minutes.

00:21:00.880 Now we're in the world

00:21:01.940 of digital content

00:21:02.660 and you hear

00:21:03.560 two minutes from one band

00:21:04.940 and now because of TikTok

00:21:06.300 you hear one minute

00:21:07.180 from one person.

00:21:08.000 The Beatles,

00:21:08.640 a lot of their hits

00:21:09.240 were two minutes

00:21:09.960 and 20 seconds,

00:21:10.820 two minutes and 30 seconds.

00:21:11.860 Like most of their songs

00:21:13.160 are really short,

00:21:13.940 especially in the early days.

00:21:15.080 The technology

00:21:15.880 is making everything

00:21:16.760 shorter and shorter

00:21:17.780 and smaller and smaller

00:21:18.920 and faster and faster.

00:21:20.340 It's like,

00:21:20.880 again,

00:21:21.140 what came first?

00:21:22.220 It is,

00:21:23.060 I think,

00:21:23.460 yeah,

00:21:23.740 I probably agree

00:21:24.520 with you on that,

00:21:25.200 that it's a little bit of,

00:21:26.660 it's a little bit of both,

00:21:27.800 right?

00:21:28.660 And that,

00:21:29.860 again,

00:21:30.280 that's just the nature

00:21:31.600 of all the technological,

00:21:33.000 I guess,

00:21:33.340 advancements.

00:21:34.160 And to your point,

00:21:35.720 because everything's been

00:21:36.960 more decentralized,

00:21:37.740 which is a good thing,

00:21:38.700 and people are able

00:21:39.660 to create that couldn't,

00:21:40.840 it used to be kind of

00:21:41.520 a barrier of entry.

00:21:42.460 Now it's like,

00:21:43.740 we can do podcasts,

00:21:44.960 we can do music

00:21:46.620 without having to have

00:21:47.740 all that equipment

00:21:48.480 that's worth tens

00:21:49.940 of thousands of dollars.

00:21:51.440 So I get it,

00:21:52.020 you got more people

00:21:52.920 that are kind of

00:21:53.580 entering into the game,

00:21:54.980 which now folks have just,

00:21:57.640 it's almost information overload.

00:21:59.300 Dude,

00:21:59.520 tell me.

00:22:00.540 I want to,

00:22:01.480 what's crazy about

00:22:03.740 the work you did

00:22:05.140 and are doing

00:22:05.660 with Ripperverse,

00:22:06.820 there's a lot of people

00:22:07.680 who would make the argument,

00:22:08.480 oh,

00:22:08.560 comics just don't sell anymore.

00:22:10.260 The reality is,

00:22:11.420 it is the infection

00:22:12.200 of crackpot ideology.

00:22:14.380 It is,

00:22:15.100 I'll tell you,

00:22:15.780 because you already

00:22:16.120 basically said it,

00:22:17.200 people who don't care

00:22:18.180 about Batman,

00:22:19.800 like,

00:22:20.220 infiltrated these companies

00:22:21.960 to write for Batman

00:22:22.920 and make him

00:22:23.840 something different

00:22:24.540 and I think a lot of it is

00:22:25.780 they want to inject

00:22:27.180 their psychotic worldview

00:22:28.960 using a popular IP.

00:22:32.100 That's why they always,

00:22:33.540 that's why they don't

00:22:34.020 make new characters.

00:22:34.980 Why is it that they're like,

00:22:35.900 oh,

00:22:36.100 we're going to take,

00:22:36.840 you know,

00:22:37.060 this character

00:22:37.500 and turn it into a,

00:22:38.500 you know,

00:22:38.860 a gay woman

00:22:39.520 or something like that,

00:22:40.280 like South Park

00:22:40.720 makes the joke.

00:22:41.820 It's because they're trying

00:22:42.900 to force you to watch it.

00:22:44.000 Yes.

00:22:44.240 They know that you won't

00:22:45.520 and so this results

00:22:46.700 in a major collapse

00:22:47.940 in interest,

00:22:48.900 culture,

00:22:49.200 and sales

00:22:49.600 and then

00:22:50.460 you come out

00:22:51.480 with Ripperverse.

00:22:52.260 I'm curious,

00:22:53.280 how is it that

00:22:53.980 what you did

00:22:54.620 resonated so massively

00:22:55.760 to the point

00:22:56.260 of millions of dollars?

00:22:57.620 I mean,

00:22:58.380 we're talking a new IP.

00:23:00.420 Yeah.

00:23:00.940 Like,

00:23:01.460 I can't even imagine

00:23:02.800 that if DC or Marvel

00:23:04.660 came out with a new IP,

00:23:05.700 it would do that well

00:23:06.760 and you do

00:23:07.880 and it does well.

00:23:09.040 Yeah,

00:23:09.300 I think again,

00:23:10.200 it goes back to

00:23:11.120 the whole,

00:23:12.560 like,

00:23:12.960 what we promised people to do.

00:23:14.520 Yeah,

00:23:14.640 there was a demand

00:23:15.600 that was built

00:23:16.320 so in some ways,

00:23:17.420 yeah,

00:23:17.600 I hate to see these characters

00:23:18.800 go in the direction

00:23:19.640 that they're going

00:23:20.300 but I'm not oblivious.

00:23:22.400 I know that kind of helps us out

00:23:23.820 because it's like

00:23:24.860 incentivizing people

00:23:25.900 to go try something else

00:23:27.560 which they may have not done

00:23:28.900 in the past

00:23:29.520 but also again,

00:23:30.600 it goes back to like

00:23:31.640 our promises

00:23:32.280 of keeping up

00:23:33.800 with our continuity

00:23:34.700 and leaving a lot of that,

00:23:36.380 all that political stuff

00:23:37.400 out of what it is

00:23:38.240 that we're trying to do

00:23:39.140 and what we're doing

00:23:40.040 as creatives

00:23:40.740 and you bring up

00:23:41.580 a good point

00:23:42.120 because,

00:23:42.500 you know,

00:23:43.200 I guess the Ripperverse

00:23:44.140 and the fact

00:23:44.940 that it just exists

00:23:45.960 in the capacity

00:23:46.640 that it does,

00:23:48.600 it disproves everything

00:23:49.880 that they said

00:23:50.920 when they just try

00:23:52.280 to justify

00:23:52.940 all the goofy stuff

00:23:53.880 it is that they would do.

00:23:55.100 So whether it be,

00:23:56.140 hey,

00:23:56.860 you guys,

00:23:57.420 we have to make

00:23:58.000 these other characters

00:23:58.980 like a black version,

00:24:00.820 Riri Williams,

00:24:01.420 right?

00:24:01.560 You mentioned Iron Man,

00:24:02.380 right?

00:24:02.700 So we have to make her

00:24:03.800 because,

00:24:04.620 well,

00:24:04.740 you guys won't support

00:24:05.680 a different property

00:24:07.280 and that's just not true.

00:24:08.840 That's verifiably false

00:24:10.160 and I think that's why

00:24:10.760 we get the hatred

00:24:11.340 that it is that we get

00:24:12.260 because the Ripperverse

00:24:13.020 proves that,

00:24:13.660 yeah,

00:24:13.920 I didn't have a starting point.

00:24:15.560 There was nobody else

00:24:16.320 that was funding any of this.

00:24:17.820 Well,

00:24:18.200 I mean,

00:24:18.520 if you want to say

00:24:19.060 that my following

00:24:19.860 was a starting point,

00:24:20.780 yeah,

00:24:20.920 I give you that

00:24:21.700 but it was just

00:24:23.480 a brand new property

00:24:24.660 and we created it

00:24:25.600 and if people want

00:24:26.660 to go look at the numbers,

00:24:27.780 you can go check it out.

00:24:29.740 They will consider

00:24:30.420 because it has ISBN

00:24:31.500 and the size of our books

00:24:32.960 because we're not releasing

00:24:33.740 traditional floppies,

00:24:35.500 a graphic novel.

00:24:36.500 We just looked at AlphaCore

00:24:37.880 in comparison

00:24:38.540 to the numbers

00:24:39.540 that came out in November.

00:24:41.200 AlphaCore

00:24:41.620 is the number one

00:24:42.680 selling graphic novel

00:24:44.280 in North America

00:24:45.440 right now.

00:24:45.940 It's not even close,

00:24:46.780 actually,

00:24:47.260 if you're talking

00:24:48.040 about the American companies.

00:24:49.480 Our actual competition

00:24:50.840 is manga,

00:24:51.940 that of which we're third,

00:24:53.060 right?

00:24:53.380 We're third behind them

00:24:54.660 so we're still top three

00:24:55.760 but among superhero

00:24:58.020 or author graphic novels,

00:25:00.640 we are number one.

00:25:02.060 So we're already

00:25:02.820 competing with these guys.

00:25:04.340 So,

00:25:05.380 Static Shock,

00:25:06.380 when was Static

00:25:07.480 first written?

00:25:07.940 That was in the 90s.

00:25:10.220 That was,

00:25:10.980 yeah,

00:25:11.140 that was around the 90s.

00:25:12.300 It wasn't actually

00:25:12.820 that far before

00:25:13.700 they had the show

00:25:14.780 come out before

00:25:16.300 when they actually

00:25:16.960 Milestone conceptualized it.

00:25:18.480 Right,

00:25:18.640 and then it was bought

00:25:19.500 by,

00:25:19.880 what was it,

00:25:20.200 it was bought by Warner,

00:25:21.120 wasn't it?

00:25:21.720 And then,

00:25:22.760 so Milestone

00:25:23.660 licensed with DC,

00:25:25.760 so technically Warner,

00:25:26.980 which is kind of

00:25:27.860 how that relationship had

00:25:29.140 and they recently had

00:25:29.940 that reboot,

00:25:30.900 Milestone reboot.

00:25:31.780 So,

00:25:32.460 I love all these

00:25:33.520 superheroes growing up.

00:25:34.920 I watched the Static Shock

00:25:36.200 show when I'm a kid

00:25:37.480 and it's my favorite

00:25:39.120 superhero show

00:25:39.860 and it's about

00:25:40.980 a young black kid

00:25:42.520 who gets superpowers

00:25:43.380 during a gang fight

00:25:44.560 and I'm like,

00:25:45.300 it's very much written

00:25:46.260 for inner city,

00:25:47.220 urban perspective

00:25:48.440 and understanding.

00:25:49.800 Instead of doing something

00:25:51.380 as incredible as that

00:25:52.500 and Static has gone on

00:25:53.660 to get his own comic

00:25:54.860 and to be included

00:25:56.000 in other properties

00:25:56.720 and he's in Batman Beyond,

00:25:58.460 like,

00:25:58.880 he's utilized in a bunch of ways

00:26:00.020 as an excellent

00:26:00.640 and amazing character

00:26:01.380 and I love how they

00:26:02.460 utilize his ability

00:26:03.780 for the,

00:26:04.260 like,

00:26:04.460 Static,

00:26:04.740 he can control electricity

00:26:05.560 so they do a bunch

00:26:06.480 of really cool things

00:26:07.260 with what that means.

00:26:08.520 Here's a new character,

00:26:09.880 there's your diversity,

00:26:11.120 in fact,

00:26:11.460 the show very much

00:26:12.340 was like an educational

00:26:13.440 and like,

00:26:14.200 Oh yeah,

00:26:14.480 it had a lot of social stuff

00:26:15.600 that they talked about.

00:26:16.400 Yeah,

00:26:16.580 his best friend

00:26:17.600 who's super intelligent

00:26:18.560 is gay

00:26:19.420 and it was an episode

00:26:20.880 where his dad's racist

00:26:22.160 and he's gay

00:26:22.800 and it's like,

00:26:23.260 all that stuff's in there

00:26:23.980 and it was fine.

00:26:25.060 It was done tastefully

00:26:26.160 and well

00:26:26.600 with a new character.

00:26:28.160 So,

00:26:28.600 when they say,

00:26:29.360 Oh,

00:26:30.300 we have to make

00:26:31.000 Iron Man into a black woman

00:26:31.960 otherwise no one will buy it.

00:26:32.740 They're lying.

00:26:33.420 What they're really saying is

00:26:34.460 we hate Iron Man.

00:26:35.620 We don't want this character.

00:26:37.440 No,

00:26:37.840 that's an absolute fact

00:26:38.800 and I'm going to blow your mind here.

00:26:39.800 I don't know if you,

00:26:40.260 did you hear about

00:26:41.060 what they did to Static recently?

00:26:42.440 Oh man,

00:26:43.140 I got a good story for you.

00:26:45.440 So,

00:26:46.200 one of these writers

00:26:47.300 who kind of embodies

00:26:48.300 everything that is

00:26:49.660 that's wrong with comics

00:26:50.820 and names

00:26:51.160 They made Static a white guy?

00:26:52.620 Not quite.

00:26:53.860 Vidal is a name.

00:26:55.660 So,

00:26:55.800 they recently tried

00:26:56.600 to reboot

00:26:57.300 Milestone

00:26:58.980 all the characters.

00:27:00.640 So,

00:27:00.700 he had like the icons,

00:27:01.880 rockets,

00:27:02.460 and Static.

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00:28:32.780 So you have,

00:28:33.540 they started with

00:28:34.340 issue zero,

00:28:35.260 if I'm not mistaken.

00:28:36.400 So static zero

00:28:38.000 and check this out.

00:28:39.880 This is what happened

00:28:40.660 or was a milestone zero

00:28:41.760 either way.

00:28:42.920 So they retconned

00:28:44.040 statics origin.

00:28:45.360 So you mentioned

00:28:45.860 that that's how he got it

00:28:47.080 as far as being

00:28:47.940 in a gang.

00:28:48.440 I think I did read about this.

00:28:49.900 So what happened was

00:28:51.100 is that they adjusted it

00:28:53.120 and now he gets

00:28:54.480 his powers

00:28:55.040 from a Black Lives Matter

00:28:57.140 sort of rally

00:28:58.740 that literally happened.

00:29:00.620 Yes.

00:29:01.520 I mean,

00:29:02.140 and this was right

00:29:02.960 out the gate.

00:29:03.720 So they basically

00:29:04.280 killed any momentum

00:29:05.480 it is that they

00:29:06.080 would have had

00:29:06.580 trying to reboot

00:29:07.200 all the milestone

00:29:07.840 characters DC.

00:29:08.900 And it was the police

00:29:09.700 firing tear gas

00:29:10.580 that did it.

00:29:11.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:29:11.620 So I know

00:29:12.660 the original comic

00:29:13.660 is different from the cartoon,

00:29:14.900 but the cartoon

00:29:16.080 I thought was

00:29:16.740 masterfully done.

00:29:17.700 Basically,

00:29:18.680 Virgil Hawkins,

00:29:19.640 I believe, right?

00:29:20.340 He's pressured

00:29:21.080 into siding

00:29:22.040 with one gang

00:29:22.680 in a gang fight

00:29:23.340 saying you better come

00:29:24.240 or else.

00:29:25.040 And he's like,

00:29:25.420 I don't know what to do

00:29:26.400 because these are the kids

00:29:27.680 in his area.

00:29:28.240 These are the gangs

00:29:28.660 that control everything.

00:29:29.680 They give him a gun.

00:29:30.840 He throws the gun

00:29:31.660 to the harbor.

00:29:32.720 When the fight happens,

00:29:34.160 there's a chemical explosion.

00:29:35.840 So all of these gangbangers

00:29:37.440 get superpowers.

00:29:39.300 He's the only one there,

00:29:40.640 basically,

00:29:41.140 who doesn't want

00:29:41.880 to be involved

00:29:42.360 in this fight.

00:29:43.100 Thus, he becomes the hero.

00:29:44.440 Most of the other guys

00:29:45.280 become villains.

00:29:46.380 Eventually,

00:29:46.840 some of the characters

00:29:47.460 reform their lives.

00:29:48.440 They go from villains

00:29:48.960 to heroes.

00:29:49.920 But it's actually

00:29:51.240 a really big bang

00:29:52.120 was what they call

00:29:52.740 the whole deal.

00:29:54.020 Yeah, it's great.

00:29:54.820 And then in the story,

00:29:55.820 they're like bang babies.

00:29:57.260 The big bang caused this thing.

00:29:59.000 It's cool how they made

00:30:00.540 how can we make it

00:30:01.380 so there's a superhero

00:30:01.940 and villains

00:30:02.480 and more villains

00:30:03.120 than the hero.

00:30:03.760 Well, it was a gang fight.

00:30:04.960 These guys are self-interested.

00:30:06.080 They don't care about

00:30:06.480 their community

00:30:06.900 and their villains.

00:30:07.880 And this kid

00:30:08.640 who's pressured into it

00:30:09.380 becomes the hero.

00:30:10.480 And then they had

00:30:11.160 great storylines

00:30:11.760 where some of the bad guys

00:30:12.660 realize the error

00:30:13.900 of their ways.

00:30:14.320 They reform.

00:30:15.320 Man, then I remember,

00:30:16.560 yeah, now it's

00:30:17.320 a Black Lives Matter rally.

00:30:18.300 The cops were the bad guys.

00:30:19.680 And here we go.

00:30:20.360 Yeah, imagine that.

00:30:22.100 But no, it does represent

00:30:23.900 everything it is

00:30:24.780 that we have just been

00:30:25.560 we've been discussing

00:30:26.560 and everything wrong

00:30:27.360 with comics.

00:30:28.500 These guys are so

00:30:29.200 ideologically obsessed

00:30:30.260 that they go to

00:30:31.780 infiltrate these.

00:30:33.020 Look, maybe

00:30:33.480 I started to know

00:30:35.100 the real change

00:30:36.400 like around the 2010s.

00:30:37.820 This was the era of

00:30:38.820 what do you call it?

00:30:40.660 All new, all different, right?

00:30:42.020 Marvel was what they called it

00:30:43.180 where they were like

00:30:43.720 trying to basically

00:30:44.660 replace all the heroes.

00:30:46.040 And this is how you got

00:30:46.980 like Jane Foster

00:30:48.880 being Thor

00:30:49.520 and all this other

00:30:50.140 weird stuff.

00:30:51.780 All that stuff happened

00:30:52.940 during that period of time.

00:30:55.060 But they,

00:30:55.740 it was almost like

00:30:56.800 they were,

00:30:57.720 they do it out of spite, right?

00:30:59.740 They're like upset

00:31:00.540 that these crappy characters

00:31:01.980 that they come up

00:31:02.820 as alternatives,

00:31:03.680 nobody's buying into it.

00:31:05.240 So they say,

00:31:05.960 yeah, I'm going to just

00:31:06.620 ruin the characters

00:31:07.460 it is that you,

00:31:08.460 that you guys love

00:31:09.380 and you guys enjoy.

00:31:10.780 And I'm going to make it

00:31:11.520 about me.

00:31:11.940 I'm going to make it

00:31:12.360 about my personal politics,

00:31:13.580 even if that,

00:31:15.320 and I think that's

00:31:15.880 the core, core issue.

00:31:16.920 It's like,

00:31:17.260 this isn't,

00:31:17.820 this isn't who

00:31:18.280 that character is, right?

00:31:19.460 The whole bit about Batman

00:31:21.040 for, for whatever reason

00:31:22.760 say, yeah,

00:31:23.200 they got insurance.

00:31:24.020 They'll be fine.

00:31:24.640 That's just such a

00:31:25.440 non-Batman thing.

00:31:27.220 And people know that

00:31:28.400 people have grown up

00:31:29.280 on these characters.

00:31:30.000 That's, that's the opposite

00:31:31.220 of Batman.

00:31:31.800 Bingo, bingo.

00:31:32.500 Like if Batman is upset

00:31:35.000 with the status quo

00:31:35.900 of the city

00:31:36.500 and that's what runs the city.

00:31:38.320 Oh, we're not going

00:31:38.980 to deal with crime

00:31:39.660 because the machine

00:31:40.540 works in this way.

00:31:41.900 Organized crime can do this.

00:31:43.040 Companies will do

00:31:44.120 this, corporations will do that.

00:31:44.900 And Batman goes,

00:31:46.300 breaking the law

00:31:47.140 to mercilessly beat criminals

00:31:49.180 for, for breaking the law.

00:31:51.440 And then he's going

00:31:51.920 to be like,

00:31:52.400 the system is working.

00:31:53.460 Insurance companies

00:31:54.180 will take care of this.

00:31:55.140 Crime is okay.

00:31:55.820 Yeah, like one of

00:31:56.240 Batman's enemies

00:31:57.000 would be called

00:31:57.560 the salesman

00:31:58.600 or something like that.

00:31:59.780 You know,

00:31:59.920 he'd be selling insurance

00:32:01.040 and like screwing people

00:32:01.940 over with that.

00:32:02.520 Yeah.

00:32:03.340 Not in my town.

00:32:04.680 Well, he'd have like

00:32:05.560 razor blade insurance papers.

00:32:07.540 Yeah.

00:32:08.460 Yo, but revolutionary moment

00:32:11.060 in, in, uh, this kind of like,

00:32:13.960 I don't know what you'd call it.

00:32:14.940 The comics universe

00:32:15.900 despite its cartoons

00:32:16.560 was Mr. Freeze.

00:32:18.080 Is it Mr. Freeze, right?

00:32:19.460 Yeah.

00:32:20.000 I always get confused.

00:32:20.860 Dr. Freeze.

00:32:21.520 It was, uh, the Batman,

00:32:23.380 the animated series.

00:32:24.100 I think it was the first

00:32:25.040 animated Emmy ever

00:32:25.940 when they, when they, uh,

00:32:28.020 rewrote Mr. Freeze's origin story

00:32:30.600 from a one dimensional villain.

00:32:33.060 It was like,

00:32:33.260 I'm going to freeze you Batman

00:32:34.560 into my wife is dying

00:32:36.400 and I'll do anything

00:32:37.060 to save her life

00:32:37.780 and I need to find,

00:32:39.020 I need to get, uh,

00:32:40.240 money and, and chemical resources

00:32:41.900 to find a cure.

00:32:43.100 I think it became very sad.

00:32:44.340 I think with, with one of the issues

00:32:46.220 maybe people are facing,

00:32:46.920 like when you introduce

00:32:47.480 a new character,

00:32:47.960 you don't need to explain

00:32:49.300 their background right away.

00:32:50.260 You can just drop them

00:32:51.060 into the story.

00:32:51.700 Absolutely.

00:32:52.080 They're doing their thing

00:32:52.600 and then later on.

00:32:53.600 It's fun.

00:32:54.020 It's finding that out.

00:32:55.000 I got a new character

00:32:55.780 I was going to offer

00:32:56.420 to the Ripperverse

00:32:57.180 if you want it.

00:32:57.820 I can say it online.

00:32:58.900 Okay.

00:32:59.480 Salesman?

00:33:00.020 No, you can do the salesman

00:33:01.740 and he throws razor blade papers,

00:33:03.460 but it's called,

00:33:03.820 his name is Psychosoma

00:33:05.040 and he's a villain

00:33:06.000 and he makes people feel sick,

00:33:07.340 you know, like psychosomatic

00:33:08.220 and it's just psychosoma.

00:33:09.960 I don't know who he is

00:33:10.620 or what he does,

00:33:11.260 but you don't need it.

00:33:12.060 You don't need the history

00:33:13.180 of it right away.

00:33:14.100 No.

00:33:14.300 I'll just give you an idea.

00:33:15.360 Take it.

00:33:15.700 It's copyrighted

00:33:16.500 for the Ripperverse

00:33:17.280 if you want it.

00:33:17.920 Free game.

00:33:18.460 I love it.

00:33:18.900 How often do you guys

00:33:19.560 make new guys?

00:33:20.720 So we have, it's a,

00:33:22.960 so as far as our creative team,

00:33:24.680 which again,

00:33:25.380 I am blessed to be

00:33:26.560 in this position

00:33:27.280 where a guy

00:33:29.220 like a Chuck Dixon

00:33:30.360 is doing all this work for us.

00:33:32.520 He's a legend,

00:33:33.060 one of the most prolific

00:33:34.080 writers of all time.

00:33:35.440 Again, you guys know him

00:33:36.260 as like the actual creator

00:33:37.480 of Bane

00:33:38.060 and having a guy

00:33:41.500 like that around,

00:33:42.460 man, it just is so,

00:33:43.740 it means so much to me

00:33:44.700 as a creative, right?

00:33:45.820 Definitely as a writer,

00:33:46.740 I've grown a lot,

00:33:47.640 but we have him.

00:33:49.060 We have also

00:33:50.000 Jen and Sylvia Saska.

00:33:51.720 We just actually had

00:33:52.720 a creative meeting

00:33:53.640 because we're doing

00:33:54.260 most of the stories

00:33:55.060 between us three

00:33:55.920 and there's always stories,

00:33:58.000 like let's say

00:33:59.720 characters being created,

00:34:01.480 and we try to do it tasteful

00:34:03.180 because continuity again

00:34:04.600 is a big part

00:34:06.360 of what it is that we do

00:34:07.280 so we can't go

00:34:08.020 too willy-nilly.

00:34:08.860 As an example,

00:34:10.040 we have this Alpha Core team

00:34:12.220 it is that we've created,

00:34:14.740 I created,

00:34:15.360 I introduced them

00:34:16.060 and I some one

00:34:16.780 but Chuck is writing

00:34:17.640 the actual book for them

00:34:18.840 which that started

00:34:19.620 going out last week

00:34:21.000 as far as fulfillment

00:34:23.340 but it's a,

00:34:24.260 you know,

00:34:24.440 we have this fictional city

00:34:25.400 called Florist Park

00:34:26.440 and they are a wing

00:34:27.520 of the police department.

00:34:28.520 Like there's three guys

00:34:30.260 with superpowers

00:34:31.360 that not,

00:34:32.760 they're not mass vigilantes,

00:34:34.040 they actually work

00:34:34.940 with the police force

00:34:36.180 so you can imagine

00:34:37.360 that that's a different dynamic

00:34:38.840 and for,

00:34:40.080 be it for villains

00:34:40.700 or heroes

00:34:41.500 that oddly,

00:34:43.840 let's say,

00:34:44.240 impacts the city.

00:34:45.580 So we have to consider

00:34:46.680 all of that

00:34:47.460 and we have our meetings,

00:34:48.360 we have our meetings daily,

00:34:49.960 not necessarily daily

00:34:51.060 but, you know,

00:34:51.820 ever so often about,

00:34:53.640 hey,

00:34:53.820 I have this character idea

00:34:55.520 and it's going to impact

00:34:56.700 the city this way

00:34:57.600 or it doesn't make sense

00:34:58.560 for them to be in

00:34:59.240 Florist Park.

00:34:59.860 We have all our

00:35:00.480 creative meetings

00:35:01.160 to try to hash

00:35:03.580 that stuff out

00:35:04.420 but yeah,

00:35:05.140 we've started with,

00:35:06.640 like for example,

00:35:07.580 the book that's coming out

00:35:08.700 after Alpha Corps,

00:35:11.700 hopefully around February

00:35:13.100 will be Yaira

00:35:14.220 which is wrote by

00:35:14.880 Jenna Silvia Saska,

00:35:15.940 that's another character

00:35:16.580 that I've created

00:35:17.360 but in these individual stories

00:35:19.100 they're creating characters

00:35:20.060 as well.

00:35:20.900 What's the,

00:35:21.860 what's happening

00:35:22.460 in the,

00:35:22.840 like give me the overall,

00:35:24.080 what is it,

00:35:24.660 what's going on

00:35:25.240 in the universe?

00:35:25.980 For sure,

00:35:26.320 so we started out

00:35:27.780 with a character

00:35:28.240 known as,

00:35:28.840 known as Isom,

00:35:30.220 right?

00:35:30.560 He's a character that,

00:35:31.820 I guess that's everybody's

00:35:33.340 introduction into

00:35:34.080 the Riververse,

00:35:34.720 right?

00:35:35.440 We started out

00:35:36.180 with his book number one

00:35:37.140 and book number two

00:35:37.760 so he's a character

00:35:38.740 that is,

00:35:40.520 we're picking up

00:35:41.340 where he had recently

00:35:42.320 retired.

00:35:43.380 Well,

00:35:43.640 he had long,

00:35:44.180 let's say long retired

00:35:45.200 for that matter.

00:35:46.060 He's living on his own

00:35:47.060 like ranch,

00:35:47.800 doing his own thing,

00:35:48.680 blue collar kind of work

00:35:50.600 and we're picking up

00:35:52.540 of him reconsidering,

00:35:54.140 right?

00:35:54.400 of putting his,

00:35:55.940 his suit sort of back on.

00:35:59.020 So this whole story

00:36:00.980 pops off with his sister.

00:36:02.900 There's a family friend

00:36:04.240 that is interning

00:36:05.160 at her company

00:36:06.080 called Projectsus

00:36:07.040 that she works at.

00:36:08.060 Think of it as like

00:36:08.940 a biotech kind of company.

00:36:10.360 So she calls him

00:36:11.540 because he has an old friend

00:36:12.720 by the name of Darren Fontano

00:36:14.120 that is up to no good.

00:36:17.040 Let's say this,

00:36:18.160 up to no good

00:36:19.080 and he ends up

00:36:20.880 let's say,

00:36:23.640 I don't want to give

00:36:24.280 the story away too much

00:36:25.460 but let's say

00:36:26.020 that family friend

00:36:27.520 gets kind of lost

00:36:28.580 into his endeavors,

00:36:30.000 Darren Fontano's endeavors.

00:36:31.600 So Altono,

00:36:32.480 who is Avery Seelman's sister,

00:36:35.040 says,

00:36:35.580 hey,

00:36:35.720 can you just go check it out,

00:36:36.860 right?

00:36:37.100 Just go check it out.

00:36:38.160 And that's when we kind of,

00:36:39.540 stuff starts to hit the fan.

00:36:40.780 He runs into Alpha Corps.

00:36:42.000 He runs into Yaira

00:36:43.040 as well

00:36:44.300 and out of that conflict

00:36:45.420 with Darren Fontano,

00:36:46.380 he ends up reconsidering

00:36:47.880 putting his suit back on.

00:36:49.800 So what you're doing,

00:36:50.720 you're getting introduced

00:36:51.660 to this sort of

00:36:52.280 fictional affluence city

00:36:53.760 of Florist Park in itself

00:36:55.660 by way of Isom

00:36:58.180 and yes,

00:36:59.120 you'll meet new characters

00:37:00.000 along the way

00:37:00.840 but it's very much,

00:37:02.680 it feels kind of like

00:37:03.660 this sort of living city

00:37:05.900 where especially

00:37:07.200 with the introduction

00:37:08.060 of Alpha Corps

00:37:09.180 with this wing of the police

00:37:11.000 that has powers

00:37:12.320 and whatnot

00:37:12.820 and I think that's what

00:37:13.940 you learn the most about

00:37:14.980 with Alpha Corps 1

00:37:15.900 is how does a city

00:37:17.040 like that look?

00:37:17.880 How does a city like that

00:37:19.120 that has characters

00:37:20.840 that are specifically taxed

00:37:22.720 to deal with who we call,

00:37:23.880 we call our super-powered beings

00:37:25.420 accepts in our universe

00:37:28.600 but how does a city

00:37:29.820 like that look like

00:37:30.780 and you learn a lot

00:37:31.740 about that

00:37:32.720 and with Alpha Corps 1

00:37:35.600 and to me

00:37:36.100 that's the whole fun

00:37:37.540 it is that we have here

00:37:38.980 is that

00:37:39.860 I grew up loving

00:37:41.880 the universe

00:37:42.640 kind of element, right?

00:37:43.860 It's not that every character

00:37:45.180 needs to know each other

00:37:46.300 but I love the fact that

00:37:48.080 hey, this character

00:37:49.180 like whatever they do

00:37:51.240 let's say that

00:37:52.560 that may impact

00:37:53.420 the world

00:37:54.680 or the story

00:37:55.400 of another character, right?

00:37:56.760 so this is all concepts

00:37:58.940 that we have to kind of

00:38:00.300 entertain as we're creating

00:38:02.360 and it's challenging

00:38:03.180 but it's so fun

00:38:04.880 Is it on like

00:38:05.700 an alternate Earth?

00:38:07.400 This is all on half

00:38:08.080 like Earth?

00:38:08.620 Yeah, look at it

00:38:09.400 like a Earth

00:38:11.020 that is

00:38:11.800 there's some bits

00:38:13.540 and pieces

00:38:14.180 that people are picking up on

00:38:15.460 especially like

00:38:16.180 with the state of Texas

00:38:17.920 and that it doesn't necessarily

00:38:19.360 look like it does

00:38:20.140 in our real world

00:38:21.380 I didn't want to just

00:38:22.320 simply replicate

00:38:23.100 what it was

00:38:24.520 that we were doing

00:38:25.240 I more so wanted to

00:38:26.420 or how the world is

00:38:27.980 right now

00:38:28.480 so there's some familiar elements

00:38:30.040 but look at it

00:38:31.000 like it is different

00:38:32.240 it is very much different

00:38:33.460 from like the world

00:38:35.600 that we live in

00:38:36.300 even like

00:38:36.820 let's get in the state of Texas

00:38:37.760 Are there cosmic entities

00:38:38.900 in the realm yet?

00:38:41.020 Oh yeah

00:38:41.420 sort of

00:38:42.260 I don't want to give it

00:38:42.960 you almost got me

00:38:43.740 to spoil some

00:38:44.760 I don't want to get

00:38:46.280 too much into it

00:38:47.220 let's just say this

00:38:47.980 in that vein

00:38:48.920 there is a character

00:38:50.120 that we have introduced

00:38:51.600 that is

00:38:52.320 floats along that line

00:38:54.120 we want to

00:38:54.620 we want to keep it grounded now

00:38:56.220 but for sure

00:38:57.560 you know

00:38:58.500 you mentioned Thanos

00:38:59.460 you mentioned

00:39:00.120 like let's say

00:39:01.100 Crisis on Infinite Earths

00:39:02.180 as well

00:39:02.600 those are stories

00:39:03.660 that I grew up in

00:39:04.680 granted they

00:39:05.140 they may predate me

00:39:05.980 a little bit in the 80s

00:39:07.000 but that was some

00:39:07.980 of my first introduction

00:39:08.920 to

00:39:09.320 to

00:39:10.400 comic books

00:39:11.800 and I love the cosmic

00:39:12.980 I love that cosmic stuff

00:39:14.340 What about the underground empire?

00:39:16.820 We

00:39:16.940 in Isom 2

00:39:18.400 there is a

00:39:19.760 let's say

00:39:20.420 kind of hellish

00:39:21.380 sort of

00:39:22.800 realm it is

00:39:24.520 that we start to

00:39:25.260 we start to entertain

00:39:26.320 a conversation

00:39:27.180 that's had

00:39:28.180 as a character

00:39:28.640 by the name of

00:39:29.380 Blood Ruth

00:39:30.100 is her name

00:39:30.700 and we kind of

00:39:31.600 start to get

00:39:32.080 into some of the

00:39:32.920 fantasy elements

00:39:33.720 but you know

00:39:34.500 definitely if you're

00:39:35.040 into that sort of

00:39:35.540 underworldly stuff

00:39:36.400 I think Isom 2

00:39:37.280 you'd love that

00:39:38.580 I couldn't help but notice

00:39:39.980 the diverse cast of characters

00:39:41.300 in your comic

00:39:42.120 and we don't even say

00:39:43.120 anything about it

00:39:43.880 you don't even say anything

00:39:44.180 no but in all seriousness

00:39:45.260 I'm wondering

00:39:45.860 have you gotten

00:39:47.160 attacked by the media?

00:39:49.540 Have you been

00:39:49.880 have they insulted you

00:39:50.780 and done after you?

00:39:51.400 Yes

00:39:51.720 so

00:39:52.300 we have

00:39:53.960 so there is a

00:39:56.100 sleuth of kind of

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00:41:30.180 them that journalists

00:41:30.840 I use that term

00:41:31.620 very loosely

00:41:32.380 Activists

00:41:33.820 Yeah, that's more or less

00:41:34.920 what they are

00:41:35.420 activists

00:41:35.840 You got like CBR

00:41:37.000 is a big one

00:41:37.720 You have like

00:41:38.660 Comics Beat

00:41:39.340 Those guys

00:41:41.280 They know we exist

00:41:42.500 of course

00:41:42.880 You can't not

00:41:43.600 They've got word

00:41:45.680 to not cover anything

00:41:46.700 about us

00:41:47.380 because of

00:41:48.260 it's usually

00:41:48.680 political reasons

00:41:49.640 But there has been

00:41:51.380 one

00:41:51.700 Bleeding Cool

00:41:52.260 I think is their name

00:41:53.220 I called them

00:41:54.740 Bleeding Something Else

00:41:55.820 But they have

00:41:58.080 They were the one

00:41:58.780 mainstream

00:41:59.420 kind of

00:42:00.060 Hey, we keep our

00:42:01.180 hand on the

00:42:02.880 pulse of the industry

00:42:03.560 That did write about

00:42:04.680 I Sum 1

00:42:05.440 But it was more

00:42:06.260 of a hit piece

00:42:06.860 These guys don't like us

00:42:08.360 Let's just say that

00:42:09.580 And more so

00:42:10.720 because again

00:42:11.480 to our previous points

00:42:12.960 it detonates

00:42:14.320 They're watching their

00:42:15.400 arguments be destroyed

00:42:16.640 in kind of real time

00:42:17.740 That's what's

00:42:18.340 the existence

00:42:18.900 Hey, people won't like

00:42:19.960 this type of character

00:42:21.100 They won't like

00:42:21.700 that type of character

00:42:22.620 They won't get behind

00:42:23.440 this character

00:42:24.120 And the Ripperverse

00:42:25.840 disproves all of that

00:42:27.240 But also

00:42:28.080 these people feel

00:42:30.240 as if they own

00:42:31.080 the industry

00:42:31.640 It's theirs

00:42:32.560 especially ideologically

00:42:34.060 and people like me

00:42:35.060 whether it be

00:42:35.580 let's say non-leftist

00:42:37.040 let's call them that

00:42:37.880 Creating is something

00:42:39.800 that they

00:42:40.380 do not feel

00:42:41.980 as if we're

00:42:42.620 supposed to be doing

00:42:43.500 So

00:42:43.820 those that

00:42:45.240 don't just straight up

00:42:46.420 try to crap on it

00:42:47.300 they more so

00:42:47.820 try to delegitimize

00:42:48.800 our efforts

00:42:49.620 because again

00:42:50.500 more so because

00:42:51.340 of what it means

00:42:52.120 to the industry itself

00:42:53.200 that number one

00:42:53.940 it shows that

00:42:54.460 it can be done

00:42:55.280 but it also

00:42:56.700 shows that

00:42:57.640 well people don't

00:42:58.300 have much of a

00:42:59.040 use to the

00:42:59.560 mainstream anymore

00:43:00.500 if they're going

00:43:00.940 to be these

00:43:01.380 alternatives that

00:43:02.200 still kind of

00:43:03.140 scratch that

00:43:04.800 itch it is

00:43:05.500 that people have

00:43:05.980 for comics

00:43:06.460 What has your

00:43:07.220 comic done

00:43:07.860 that should be

00:43:08.360 offensive to

00:43:08.920 any of these

00:43:09.300 people?

00:43:09.920 I mean

00:43:10.160 by their standard

00:43:11.580 you've created

00:43:12.100 a new IP

00:43:13.000 wildly successful

00:43:13.940 with a diverse

00:43:14.600 cast of characters

00:43:15.340 Yeah

00:43:15.960 it does detonate

00:43:17.640 again their

00:43:18.200 arguments

00:43:18.840 but it goes to

00:43:19.660 show that all

00:43:20.340 that was nonsense

00:43:21.180 that was never

00:43:22.480 really their

00:43:23.040 position

00:43:23.440 they never

00:43:23.760 cared about

00:43:24.340 having these

00:43:25.060 various types

00:43:25.780 of characters

00:43:26.360 or black

00:43:27.180 superheroes

00:43:27.820 that was never

00:43:29.140 anything it is

00:43:29.860 that they cared

00:43:30.380 about

00:43:30.660 that was all

00:43:31.540 ideology

00:43:32.240 so it all

00:43:33.420 boils down to

00:43:34.300 more so the

00:43:34.960 political stuff

00:43:36.000 for you guys

00:43:36.720 that don't know

00:43:37.260 again I bring up

00:43:38.200 Chuck Dixon

00:43:38.720 he sort of got

00:43:39.420 blacklisted from

00:43:40.420 the industry

00:43:40.820 despite him being

00:43:41.440 one of the most

00:43:41.880 prolific writers

00:43:42.560 of all time

00:43:43.300 because he

00:43:44.400 leans to the

00:43:45.560 right

00:43:45.800 right

00:43:46.140 same can be

00:43:46.820 said for

00:43:47.200 Mike Barron

00:43:48.140 who's also

00:43:48.620 doing a book

00:43:49.180 for us

00:43:49.640 called Gooding

00:43:50.520 as well

00:43:51.740 these are

00:43:52.260 legends

00:43:52.580 these guys

00:43:53.120 have wrote

00:43:53.480 all of these

00:43:54.060 prominent characters

00:43:54.860 from Batman

00:43:55.580 to Punisher

00:43:56.260 and as such

00:43:58.620 and yet because

00:43:59.820 they think a little

00:44:00.540 different on certain

00:44:01.300 political topics

00:44:02.140 the industry

00:44:02.780 doesn't want them

00:44:03.760 around

00:44:04.520 so I said

00:44:05.380 I mean I guess

00:44:06.500 their loss is my

00:44:07.780 gain here

00:44:08.440 because these are

00:44:09.520 very talented

00:44:10.240 people

00:44:10.740 but again

00:44:11.620 you have to

00:44:12.440 understand

00:44:12.960 these guys

00:44:13.560 infiltrated this

00:44:14.460 industry

00:44:14.920 and they have a

00:44:15.880 lot riding on

00:44:17.040 the fact that

00:44:17.700 well we get to

00:44:18.400 destroy Batman

00:44:19.200 or we get to

00:44:20.100 destroy Punisher

00:44:20.860 which they've

00:44:21.760 certainly done

00:44:22.500 as of recently

00:44:23.620 what did they do

00:44:24.100 to him

00:44:24.360 oh well they

00:44:25.060 oh man

00:44:25.580 first of all

00:44:26.040 now right now

00:44:27.400 he technically

00:44:27.900 isn't the Punisher

00:44:28.760 Frank Castle

00:44:29.920 isn't even more

00:44:30.500 he's the prison

00:44:31.220 reformist

00:44:31.760 yeah

00:44:32.400 but no

00:44:33.280 recently they

00:44:34.500 brought his

00:44:34.980 wife back to

00:44:36.040 life

00:44:36.580 only for

00:44:37.160 him

00:44:37.860 only for her

00:44:38.700 to basically

00:44:39.380 insult him

00:44:40.140 real story

00:44:40.800 as well as

00:44:41.920 divorce him

00:44:42.640 no

00:44:43.040 not even joking

00:44:43.780 not even joking

00:44:44.520 this is what

00:44:45.060 we're dealing

00:44:45.560 with guys

00:44:45.960 this is the

00:44:46.520 industry

00:44:46.940 and you know

00:44:48.460 why they did

00:44:49.100 that right

00:44:49.520 they don't like

00:44:50.040 who likes

00:44:50.580 Punisher

00:44:51.020 that's the reason

00:44:52.040 why they did

00:44:52.700 that

00:44:52.880 cops are wearing

00:44:53.560 the Punisher

00:44:53.980 shirts

00:44:54.260 they don't like

00:44:55.020 that so they

00:44:55.580 figure why not

00:44:56.480 bastardize

00:44:57.600 this character

00:44:58.600 but that's what

00:44:59.420 they're going

00:44:59.920 character to

00:45:00.600 character and

00:45:01.300 doing that

00:45:02.820 and examples

00:45:03.880 of what it is

00:45:05.160 that we're doing

00:45:05.600 with the Ripperverse

00:45:06.360 shows that okay

00:45:07.160 if you're gonna

00:45:07.700 do that

00:45:08.200 fine

00:45:08.900 we're gonna

00:45:09.620 build this new

00:45:10.660 and improved

00:45:11.500 thing

00:45:11.920 there's a lot

00:45:12.520 of economic

00:45:13.020 issues that

00:45:13.740 plague the industry

00:45:14.940 that I sought

00:45:15.560 to correct

00:45:16.080 it was not

00:45:16.640 just

00:45:17.000 I don't like

00:45:18.380 the fact

00:45:18.700 that a lot

00:45:19.080 of these

00:45:19.300 legends

00:45:19.600 are not able

00:45:20.440 to get paid

00:45:21.020 right

00:45:21.340 so you know

00:45:21.960 we bake

00:45:22.500 we bake in

00:45:23.180 our contracts

00:45:23.880 we bake in

00:45:24.400 what it is

00:45:25.120 that we do

00:45:25.560 I make sure

00:45:25.980 that these guys

00:45:26.540 are benefiting

00:45:27.380 from it

00:45:27.940 their creative

00:45:29.160 stuff financially

00:45:30.740 like the writers

00:45:31.460 that aren't me

00:45:32.160 so there's other

00:45:32.880 things not just

00:45:33.760 from a creative

00:45:34.340 standpoint

00:45:34.820 but from an

00:45:35.280 economic standpoint

00:45:36.080 that we tried

00:45:36.600 to correct

00:45:37.120 and you know

00:45:37.660 here this is

00:45:38.080 the Ripperverse

00:45:38.580 I'm in

00:45:39.380 I'm in for this

00:45:40.360 game

00:45:40.580 I got an idea

00:45:41.100 so Mickey Mouse

00:45:42.220 Steamboat Willie

00:45:43.180 is gonna be

00:45:43.680 public domain

00:45:44.340 January 1st

00:45:45.140 I'm gonna make

00:45:46.160 Anarchist Willie

00:45:47.300 he's gonna be

00:45:48.400 like a

00:45:48.820 an Ancap

00:45:50.960 600 feet tall

00:45:52.180 he can shrink

00:45:53.560 down though

00:45:53.860 because he's a mouse

00:45:54.340 I'm not making

00:45:55.260 Mickey Mouse

00:45:55.680 have superpowers

00:45:56.140 we're gonna make

00:45:57.180 a comic book

00:45:57.720 we're Steamboat Willie

00:45:58.600 we basically finish

00:46:00.420 out the Steamboat

00:46:01.080 story and he's

00:46:01.800 on the Steamboat

00:46:02.340 because he's

00:46:02.780 going to

00:46:03.640 work some

00:46:05.060 deals

00:46:06.400 a cotton gin

00:46:08.140 somewhere

00:46:08.600 no no no

00:46:09.500 it's gonna be

00:46:10.200 that he's a

00:46:10.600 libertarian

00:46:11.120 he's meeting

00:46:11.580 he's meeting

00:46:12.280 with his

00:46:12.740 group to talk

00:46:13.720 about

00:46:14.140 you know

00:46:14.680 winning rights

00:46:15.320 for the people

00:46:15.760 it's gonna be

00:46:16.020 super gritty

00:46:16.680 it's gonna be

00:46:17.680 like a civil

00:46:18.580 war going on

00:46:19.540 and he's

00:46:20.100 teaming up

00:46:20.460 with a bunch

00:46:20.860 of other

00:46:21.320 like libertarian

00:46:22.180 types

00:46:22.540 they're gonna be

00:46:23.180 flying Gadsden

00:46:23.820 flags

00:46:24.300 yeah

00:46:25.080 dude we would

00:46:26.120 sit around

00:46:26.440 in high school

00:46:26.920 this is what

00:46:27.680 we would do

00:46:28.060 I'm injecting

00:46:28.560 all of that

00:46:29.160 ideology

00:46:29.660 that's what

00:46:30.180 they do

00:46:30.520 we go to

00:46:31.280 Taco Bell

00:46:31.760 man

00:46:32.080 and we're

00:46:32.400 gonna make

00:46:32.680 Mickey Mouse

00:46:33.300 a libertarian

00:46:34.860 ancap Mickey

00:46:35.680 ancap Mickey

00:46:36.660 my thoughts

00:46:37.760 are

00:46:37.900 I don't know

00:46:38.140 if you guys

00:46:38.420 agree with

00:46:38.780 this

00:46:38.920 is you

00:46:39.280 make the

00:46:39.840 most

00:46:40.140 not apolitical

00:46:41.000 just make

00:46:41.400 the most

00:46:41.780 like

00:46:42.020 like

00:46:42.320 it's not

00:46:43.040 about

00:46:43.460 identity

00:46:44.140 it's about

00:46:44.860 badass dudes

00:46:45.900 or women

00:46:46.420 like people

00:46:47.000 just awesome

00:46:47.720 people

00:46:48.180 they're just

00:46:49.100 suffering

00:46:49.580 and overcoming

00:46:50.200 it

00:46:50.420 well that

00:46:50.740 that's what

00:46:51.240 this

00:46:51.480 that's what

00:46:51.940 our deal

00:46:52.720 is

00:46:53.080 like I

00:46:53.560 have

00:46:54.060 largely

00:46:55.020 left

00:46:56.040 my politics

00:46:57.100 at the

00:46:58.000 door

00:46:58.340 I believe

00:46:58.740 there's just

00:46:59.180 more creative

00:46:59.840 ways to tell

00:47:00.680 these sort

00:47:01.180 of stories

00:47:01.600 yes

00:47:02.140 there are

00:47:02.820 universal

00:47:03.360 truths

00:47:03.800 good evil

00:47:04.660 and all

00:47:05.060 that

00:47:05.300 and we want

00:47:05.780 that to be

00:47:06.420 sort of

00:47:07.200 understood

00:47:07.640 but you know

00:47:08.980 while I could

00:47:09.740 have done that

00:47:10.420 and I think

00:47:10.720 that's what

00:47:11.000 a lot of

00:47:11.340 people when I

00:47:11.760 launched

00:47:12.020 ISOM

00:47:12.440 expected for

00:47:13.200 it to

00:47:13.420 happen

00:47:13.620 hey

00:47:13.920 ISOM

00:47:14.600 is going

00:47:14.820 to be

00:47:15.000 this big

00:47:15.400 ancap

00:47:15.840 or whatever

00:47:16.300 and I was

00:47:17.100 like

00:47:17.380 nah man

00:47:18.340 I wanted

00:47:19.080 to challenge

00:47:19.500 myself

00:47:19.980 that's not

00:47:20.860 who it

00:47:21.200 is

00:47:21.400 that he

00:47:22.520 is

00:47:22.920 I mean

00:47:23.220 hell

00:47:23.720 the second

00:47:24.260 book

00:47:24.720 that we

00:47:25.360 release

00:47:25.800 is a

00:47:26.220 team

00:47:26.680 of

00:47:26.820 superhero

00:47:27.180 cops

00:47:27.740 right

00:47:28.300 like

00:47:28.540 that's

00:47:28.840 not

00:47:29.180 necessarily

00:47:29.720 that

00:47:29.980 ancap

00:47:30.460 not

00:47:31.240 necessarily

00:47:31.660 but

00:47:31.940 that goes

00:47:32.960 to show

00:47:33.420 that

00:47:33.820 you know

00:47:34.400 I just

00:47:34.880 wanted to

00:47:35.280 give something

00:47:35.880 that is

00:47:36.220 very

00:47:36.520 digestible

00:47:37.140 people can

00:47:37.540 get in

00:47:38.200 on

00:47:38.460 they can

00:47:38.860 love it

00:47:40.040 and it

00:47:40.680 shows that

00:47:41.240 it can

00:47:41.680 be done

00:47:42.220 this whole

00:47:42.680 comics have

00:47:44.060 always been

00:47:44.740 political

00:47:45.180 they love

00:47:45.680 to say

00:47:46.060 that

00:47:46.340 I would

00:47:46.880 argue

00:47:47.220 that

00:47:47.600 maybe

00:47:48.320 it has

00:47:48.820 been

00:47:49.180 but just

00:47:49.820 as

00:47:49.980 Captain

00:47:50.960 America

00:47:51.360 was

00:47:51.640 punching

00:47:51.960 Nazis

00:47:52.420 he was

00:47:52.920 also

00:47:53.200 punching

00:47:53.560 communists

00:47:54.200 as well

00:47:55.660 which

00:47:56.600 there's no

00:47:56.960 balance

00:47:57.340 I think

00:47:57.620 that's

00:47:57.860 the issue

00:47:58.280 that a lot

00:47:58.720 of people

00:47:59.000 have right

00:47:59.520 now with

00:47:59.840 the mainstream

00:48:00.300 comics

00:48:00.720 is that

00:48:01.080 it's just

00:48:01.620 so far

00:48:02.260 one way

00:48:02.880 and

00:48:03.460 who's being

00:48:04.300 demonized

00:48:05.000 is the

00:48:05.360 other

00:48:05.560 side

00:48:05.900 I'm

00:48:06.160 I'm

00:48:06.660 not

00:48:06.800 joking

00:48:07.100 steamboat

00:48:08.200 willie

00:48:08.500 is gonna

00:48:08.760 knock out

00:48:09.260 some commies

00:48:09.920 in in

00:48:11.140 steamboat

00:48:11.660 willies

00:48:12.000 yeah

00:48:12.660 it's gonna

00:48:13.420 be we're

00:48:14.000 gonna make

00:48:14.180 him look

00:48:14.440 really gritty

00:48:15.100 and he's

00:48:15.780 gonna have

00:48:16.100 like combat

00:48:16.660 gear

00:48:16.960 tactical

00:48:17.400 armor

00:48:17.860 and he's

00:48:19.200 and you know

00:48:19.940 we should

00:48:20.160 do

00:48:20.360 we should

00:48:20.640 make it

00:48:20.940 so that

00:48:21.280 all the

00:48:22.320 other

00:48:22.520 characters

00:48:22.860 are very

00:48:23.260 realistic

00:48:23.800 style of

00:48:24.620 animation

00:48:25.000 except for

00:48:26.380 the ultra

00:48:26.960 ripped

00:48:27.320 like

00:48:27.660 human

00:48:28.340 bodied

00:48:28.800 but

00:48:29.040 steamboat

00:48:29.560 willie

00:48:29.840 head

00:48:30.100 character

00:48:30.600 have the

00:48:30.920 steamboat

00:48:31.400 be a

00:48:31.820 character

00:48:32.200 too

00:48:32.500 like it

00:48:32.820 has a

00:48:33.060 personality

00:48:33.680 but we

00:48:34.240 can say

00:48:34.540 mickey

00:48:34.780 mouse

00:48:35.020 right

00:48:35.240 I think

00:48:36.280 well I

00:48:36.960 don't

00:48:37.100 know

00:48:37.320 I don't

00:48:37.560 know

00:48:37.680 about

00:48:37.860 that

00:48:38.080 no they

00:48:38.680 said

00:48:38.940 the

00:48:39.300 modern

00:48:39.700 versions

00:48:40.220 of

00:48:40.380 mickey

00:48:40.580 are

00:48:40.680 copyrighted

00:48:40.900 but the

00:48:41.600 original

00:48:41.920 version

00:48:42.280 is fine

00:48:43.100 it's

00:48:43.300 gonna be

00:48:43.540 january

00:48:44.860 1st

00:48:45.300 it goes

00:48:47.560 public

00:48:47.920 domain

00:48:48.820 so

00:48:49.300 yeah

00:48:50.220 I'm

00:48:50.560 gonna go

00:48:50.860 nuts

00:48:51.160 we gotta

00:48:51.520 make

00:48:52.220 just

00:48:52.920 an

00:48:53.420 cap

00:48:53.680 mickey

00:48:54.660 man

00:48:55.000 that'll

00:48:56.520 be

00:48:56.640 something

00:48:56.880 else

00:48:57.120 but no

00:48:57.480 it is

00:48:57.780 the

00:48:57.960 literal

00:48:58.280 equivalent

00:48:58.760 to what

00:48:59.120 it is

00:48:59.400 that

00:48:59.520 they're

00:48:59.880 doing

00:49:00.320 I wonder

00:49:02.200 when he

00:49:02.660 became

00:49:03.000 his name

00:49:03.780 was

00:49:03.960 steamboat

00:49:04.340 willie

00:49:04.600 in the

00:49:04.820 beginning

00:49:05.340 and then

00:49:05.640 he became

00:49:06.240 named

00:49:06.820 mickey

00:49:07.180 mouse

00:49:07.360 I wonder

00:49:07.700 if the

00:49:07.940 name

00:49:08.180 mickey

00:49:08.440 mouse

00:49:08.660 will

00:49:08.800 still

00:49:08.980 be

00:49:09.120 copy

00:49:09.400 written

00:49:09.680 that's

00:49:10.100 something

00:49:10.240 worth

00:49:10.480 looking

00:49:11.120 into

00:49:11.460 because

00:49:11.720 you

00:49:12.220 saw

00:49:12.800 what

00:49:12.960 they did

00:49:13.540 winnie

00:49:14.300 the

00:49:14.580 pool

00:49:14.800 know

00:49:14.940 what

00:49:15.080 they

00:49:15.180 do

00:49:15.440 that

00:49:16.520 horror

00:49:17.300 movie

00:49:17.640 that

00:49:17.820 came

00:49:18.020 blood

00:49:18.840 and

00:49:19.040 honey

00:49:19.300 yeah

00:49:19.640 whatever

00:49:20.560 whatever

00:49:21.220 it was

00:49:21.600 so

00:49:21.720 people

00:49:21.920 are

00:49:22.040 gonna

00:49:22.140 have

00:49:22.340 some

00:49:22.480 fun

00:49:22.840 people

00:49:23.260 gonna

00:49:23.420 have

00:49:23.540 some

00:49:23.660 fun

00:49:23.840 with

00:49:23.980 steamboat

00:49:24.260 willie

00:49:24.440 do you

00:49:24.560 guys

00:49:24.680 just

00:49:24.820 sit

00:49:24.980 around

00:49:25.180 so

00:49:25.660 ap

00:49:26.280 says

00:49:27.460 mickey

00:49:27.880 mouse

00:49:28.220 steamboat

00:49:29.340 willie

00:49:29.700 was the

00:49:29.980 name

00:49:30.080 of the

00:49:30.260 cartoon

00:49:30.620 but

00:49:30.860 mickey

00:49:31.240 and

00:49:31.560 minnie

00:49:31.800 mouse

00:49:32.100 are

00:49:32.220 both

00:49:32.440 in

00:49:32.600 it

00:49:32.700 so

00:49:32.800 minnie

00:49:33.020 mouse

00:49:33.240 is

00:49:33.360 available

00:49:33.620 too

00:49:33.900 oh

00:49:34.220 dude

00:49:34.540 we

00:49:35.060 should

00:49:35.220 make

00:49:35.440 minnie

00:49:35.760 like

00:49:36.360 mickey

00:49:36.980 and

00:49:37.120 minnie

00:49:37.280 have

00:49:37.400 a

00:49:37.500 falling

00:49:37.780 out

00:49:38.040 and

00:49:38.480 minnie

00:49:38.700 goes

00:49:38.940 full

00:49:39.240 communist

00:49:39.780 tanky

00:49:40.600 and

00:49:41.220 mickey

00:49:41.580 is

00:49:41.800 like

00:49:42.260 you know

00:49:42.840 he

00:49:43.160 tries to

00:49:43.680 figure

00:49:43.840 out

00:49:43.980 who

00:49:44.140 brainwashed

00:49:45.140 her

00:49:45.300 he's

00:49:45.840 gotta

00:49:45.940 like

00:49:46.120 save

00:49:46.440 her

00:49:46.600 from

00:49:46.760 the

00:49:46.900 brainwashing

00:49:47.500 he'll

00:49:48.480 have

00:49:48.620 like

00:49:48.860 a

00:49:49.480 gadsden

00:49:50.020 patch

00:49:50.460 on his

00:49:50.740 arm

00:49:50.960 and

00:49:51.740 it's

00:49:51.920 like

00:49:52.040 a

00:49:52.180 broadcast

00:49:52.560 tower

00:49:53.000 that's

00:49:53.220 talking

00:49:53.540 but

00:49:53.740 you

00:49:53.880 don't

00:49:54.220 know

00:49:54.340 who

00:49:54.460 the

00:49:54.580 villain

00:49:54.780 is

00:49:55.040 but

00:49:55.200 you

00:49:55.320 can

00:49:55.440 hear

00:49:55.640 it

00:49:55.980 through

00:49:56.400 the

00:49:56.500 broadcast

00:49:56.840 tower

00:49:57.260 do

00:49:57.880 you

00:49:57.940 guys

00:49:58.080 sit

00:49:58.220 around

00:49:58.420 when

00:49:58.560 you're

00:49:58.740 creating

00:49:59.180 new

00:49:59.740 characters

00:50:00.120 is

00:50:00.360 it

00:50:00.520 what's

00:50:01.100 the

00:50:01.260 ratio

00:50:01.640 of

00:50:01.880 like

00:50:02.100 creating

00:50:02.560 concepts

00:50:03.260 of

00:50:03.580 lists

00:50:03.960 of

00:50:04.180 enemies

00:50:05.140 and

00:50:05.560 heroes

00:50:05.880 versus

00:50:06.780 actually

00:50:07.200 putting

00:50:07.480 it

00:50:07.600 into

00:50:07.940 fruition

00:50:08.520 so

00:50:09.020 we

00:50:09.260 have

00:50:09.420 a

00:50:09.540 universe

00:50:09.920 bible

00:50:10.320 it's

00:50:11.280 actually

00:50:11.620 why

00:50:12.000 I

00:50:12.240 brought

00:50:12.660 one

00:50:13.620 of

00:50:13.720 our

00:50:13.840 writers

00:50:14.180 and

00:50:14.500 two

00:50:14.840 of

00:50:15.000 our

00:50:15.120 writers

00:50:15.380 full

00:50:16.740 time

00:50:17.100 to

00:50:17.220 help

00:50:17.380 manage

00:50:17.940 that

00:50:18.180 because

00:50:18.300 I

00:50:18.440 was

00:50:18.560 doing

00:50:18.760 it

00:50:18.900 before

00:50:19.300 but

00:50:20.180 they're

00:50:20.340 going

00:50:20.440 to

00:50:20.500 help

00:50:20.760 manage

00:50:21.060 the

00:50:21.240 entries

00:50:21.560 so

00:50:21.840 that's

00:50:22.960 where

00:50:23.080 everything

00:50:23.320 starts

00:50:23.780 it's

00:50:24.000 more

00:50:24.200 of

00:50:24.340 conceptualizing

00:50:25.280 because

00:50:25.420 I

00:50:25.580 believe

00:50:26.020 and

00:50:26.400 look

00:50:26.660 every

00:50:26.960 writer

00:50:27.200 is

00:50:27.320 different

00:50:27.620 but

00:50:28.160 I

00:50:28.300 believe

00:50:28.660 that

00:50:29.000 you

00:50:29.160 have

00:50:29.360 to

00:50:29.500 know

00:50:29.660 the

00:50:29.840 characters

00:50:30.260 before

00:50:30.580 you

00:50:30.940 actually

00:50:31.280 can

00:50:31.480 put

00:50:31.680 them

00:50:31.780 in

00:50:31.880 a

00:50:32.000 believable

00:50:32.420 story

00:50:32.880 at

00:50:33.860 least

00:50:33.980 that's

00:50:34.180 my

00:50:34.400 approach

00:50:34.780 so

00:50:35.020 it's

00:50:35.200 like

00:50:35.500 there's

00:50:36.300 stuff

00:50:36.620 that

00:50:36.820 we've

00:50:37.200 already

00:50:37.700 documented

00:50:38.540 about

00:50:39.020 the

00:50:39.440 character

00:50:39.780 of

00:50:39.960 Isom

00:50:40.480 or

00:50:40.640 Ingrid

00:50:40.880 Valdez

00:50:41.560 of

00:50:41.960 Alpha

00:50:42.500 Core

00:50:42.840 that

00:50:43.660 the

00:50:43.860 public

00:50:44.200 doesn't

00:50:44.520 know

00:50:44.740 yet

00:50:44.980 from

00:50:45.240 reading

00:50:45.500 the

00:50:45.700 first

00:50:45.900 three

00:50:46.100 books

00:50:46.460 they

00:50:46.920 won't

00:50:47.120 know

00:50:47.300 that

00:50:47.500 until

00:50:47.760 later

00:50:48.040 on

00:50:48.400 because

00:50:48.660 it's

00:50:48.860 like

00:50:49.120 we

00:50:49.880 need

00:50:50.180 some

00:50:50.400 sense

00:50:50.700 of

00:50:50.840 direction

00:50:51.360 but

00:50:51.900 also

00:50:52.320 we

00:50:52.840 need

00:50:53.080 to

00:50:53.220 know

00:50:53.380 the

00:50:53.580 characters

00:50:53.980 and

00:50:54.240 we

00:50:54.360 work

00:50:54.600 with

00:50:54.740 professionals

00:50:55.240 that

00:50:55.500 care

00:50:55.740 enough

00:50:55.980 to

00:50:56.120 do

00:50:56.280 that

00:50:56.480 before

00:50:56.760 Chuck

00:50:57.100 Dixon

00:50:57.380 started

00:50:57.720 writing

00:50:58.100 Alpha

00:50:58.400 Core

00:50:58.680 we

00:50:59.180 had

00:50:59.440 a

00:50:59.580 meeting

00:50:59.840 and

00:51:00.020 he

00:51:00.160 wanted

00:51:00.440 to

00:51:00.600 know

00:51:00.740 who

00:51:00.920 these

00:51:01.100 characters

00:51:01.420 was

00:51:01.700 it

00:51:01.840 wasn't

00:51:02.140 like

00:51:02.460 hey

00:51:03.000 yeah

00:51:03.440 man

00:51:03.640 we're

00:51:03.780 gonna

00:51:03.860 bring

00:51:04.080 you

00:51:04.180 do

00:51:04.500 this

00:51:04.700 book

00:51:04.960 and

00:51:05.080 then

00:51:05.200 he

00:51:05.280 did

00:51:06.000 his

00:51:06.180 own

00:51:06.360 thing

00:51:06.660 no

00:51:06.860 it

00:51:07.020 was

00:51:07.160 more

00:51:07.440 of

00:51:07.680 hey

00:51:07.900 I

00:51:08.480 need

00:51:08.620 to

00:51:08.700 know

00:51:08.820 who

00:51:08.960 it

00:51:09.080 is

00:51:09.220 that

00:51:09.300 these

00:51:09.460 characters

00:51:09.800 are

00:51:10.140 so

00:51:10.640 we

00:51:11.060 start

00:51:11.600 there

00:51:11.960 we

00:51:12.200 conceptualize

00:51:13.140 them

00:51:13.300 first

00:51:13.580 and

00:51:13.760 then

00:51:13.900 we

00:51:14.040 try

00:51:14.220 to

00:51:14.360 put

00:51:14.520 them

00:51:14.720 in

00:51:14.820 a

00:51:14.940 believable

00:51:15.480 narrative

00:51:17.100 so

00:51:17.480 you

00:51:17.840 don't

00:51:18.400 have

00:51:18.720 as

00:51:18.880 much

00:51:19.100 leeway

00:51:19.580 when

00:51:19.780 the

00:51:19.920 character

00:51:20.240 has

00:51:20.460 already

00:51:20.800 shown

00:51:21.160 up

00:51:21.360 somewhere

00:51:21.760 and

00:51:22.060 there's

00:51:22.780 this

00:51:22.920 established

00:51:23.360 idea

00:51:23.820 of who

00:51:24.080 it

00:51:24.200 is

00:51:24.320 that

00:51:24.420 they

00:51:24.560 are

00:51:34.180 superhero

00:51:35.420 elements

00:51:35.980 that's

00:51:36.180 very

00:51:36.420 much

00:51:36.640 what

00:51:36.800 it

00:51:36.900 is

00:51:36.940 complete

00:51:37.260 change

00:51:37.600 of

00:51:37.700 pace

00:51:37.920 from

00:51:38.480 the

00:51:38.600 I

00:51:38.780 some

00:51:38.920 wanted

00:51:39.140 is

00:51:39.360 you

00:51:39.540 guys

00:51:39.820 have

00:51:40.680 over

00:51:40.860 there

00:51:41.080 even

00:51:41.300 though

00:51:41.480 that

00:51:41.660 was

00:51:41.840 their

00:51:42.120 introduction

00:51:43.660 they got

00:51:44.040 introduced

00:51:44.380 in that

00:51:44.900 book

00:51:45.280 but

00:51:45.960 the

00:51:46.480 story

00:51:47.240 it

00:51:47.400 is

00:51:47.540 that

00:51:47.680 they're

00:51:47.920 in

00:51:48.240 is

00:51:48.440 a

00:51:48.620 police

00:51:48.920 procedural

00:51:49.400 so

00:51:49.660 we're

00:51:50.100 not

00:51:50.380 we're

00:51:50.700 not

00:51:50.900 limited

00:51:51.320 being

00:51:52.640 at

00:51:52.820 the

00:51:52.920 beginning

00:51:53.200 stages

00:51:53.720 of

00:51:54.040 this

00:51:54.220 so

00:51:54.380 it's

00:51:54.600 funny

00:51:54.800 you

00:51:54.980 mentioned

00:51:55.280 some

00:51:55.720 of

00:51:55.820 those

00:51:56.000 other

00:51:56.200 elements

00:51:56.680 and

00:51:57.000 we

00:51:57.140 get

00:51:57.300 to

00:51:57.420 entertain

00:51:57.800 at

00:51:57.980 all

00:51:58.240 it

00:51:58.520 doesn't

00:51:58.720 mean

00:51:58.900 that

00:51:59.020 I

00:51:59.100 need

00:51:59.200 to

00:51:59.300 put

00:51:59.400 them

00:51:59.480 in

00:51:59.600 florist

00:51:59.920 park

00:52:00.180 I

00:52:00.460 don't

00:52:00.560 have

00:52:00.720 to

00:52:00.840 put

00:52:00.980 them

00:52:01.080 there

00:52:01.260 I

00:52:01.360 can

00:52:03.040 put

00:52:03.200 them

00:52:03.280 on

00:52:03.380 another

00:52:03.580 planet

00:52:03.940 for

00:52:04.120 that

00:52:04.320 matter

00:52:04.620 and

00:52:04.780 it

00:52:04.880 can

00:52:05.000 still

00:52:05.260 exist

00:52:05.680 inside

00:52:06.080 of

00:52:06.220 this

00:52:06.420 universe

00:52:07.940 so

00:52:08.240 the

00:52:08.600 character

00:52:08.920 creation

00:52:09.460 point

00:52:09.840 is

00:52:10.020 such

00:52:10.180 a

00:52:10.360 therapeutic

00:52:10.940 thing

00:52:11.540 for

00:52:12.520 us

00:52:12.880 again

00:52:13.160 I

00:52:13.360 get

00:52:13.500 to

00:52:13.620 come

00:52:14.080 in

00:52:14.300 and

00:52:14.440 say

00:52:14.660 if

00:52:15.120 I

00:52:15.260 can

00:52:15.380 conceptualize

00:52:16.200 it

00:52:16.300 and I

00:52:16.500 make

00:52:16.820 sense

00:52:17.200 of

00:52:17.560 it

00:52:17.640 I

00:52:17.800 can

00:52:17.940 put

00:52:18.140 it

00:52:18.260 in

00:52:18.380 the

00:52:18.480 world

00:52:18.720 when

00:52:18.840 I

00:52:18.980 think

00:52:19.160 of

00:52:19.280 them

00:52:19.380 I

00:52:19.480 think

00:52:19.640 of

00:52:19.740 the

00:52:20.620 realm

00:52:20.940 that

00:52:21.120 they're

00:52:21.260 from

00:52:21.520 the

00:52:21.800 mountain

00:52:22.120 people

00:52:22.580 and

00:52:22.820 they're

00:52:22.960 like

00:52:23.140 a

00:52:23.460 bird

00:52:23.780 man

00:52:24.160 lives

00:52:24.500 in

00:52:24.580 the

00:52:24.640 mountains

00:52:24.780 or

00:52:24.940 the

00:52:25.280 tree

00:52:25.540 people

00:52:25.900 and

00:52:26.040 then

00:52:26.100 I'll

00:52:26.220 think

00:52:26.340 of

00:52:26.440 dudes

00:52:26.800 with

00:52:26.940 crazy

00:52:27.660 features

00:52:27.980 of

00:52:28.100 the

00:52:28.220 underwater

00:52:28.760 realm

00:52:29.240 and

00:52:29.480 then

00:52:29.600 the

00:52:30.620 character

00:52:30.920 kind

00:52:31.140 of

00:52:31.200 who

00:52:31.880 would

00:52:32.020 live

00:52:32.180 there

00:52:32.420 that's

00:52:33.260 a

00:52:34.260 good

00:52:34.580 way

00:52:35.120 to

00:52:35.260 do

00:52:35.460 it

00:52:35.600 again

00:52:36.380 I

00:52:36.780 think

00:52:37.000 even

00:52:37.340 starting

00:52:37.760 with

00:52:37.960 the

00:52:38.380 city

00:52:38.640 of

00:52:38.820 Flores

00:52:39.140 Park

00:52:39.500 a

00:52:40.900 lot

00:52:41.200 of

00:52:41.380 that

00:52:41.640 goes

00:52:42.100 into

00:52:42.420 it

00:52:42.620 it's

00:52:42.780 funny

00:52:43.800 that

00:52:44.220 Chuck

00:52:44.540 brought

00:52:46.180 this

00:52:46.460 up

00:52:46.660 as

00:52:46.800 well

00:52:47.040 as

00:52:47.200 he

00:52:47.300 was

00:52:47.420 writing

00:52:47.720 this

00:52:48.720 is

00:52:48.900 very

00:52:49.180 much

00:52:49.460 a

00:52:49.800 story

00:52:50.220 that's

00:52:50.540 believable

00:52:50.960 to

00:52:51.200 Texas

00:52:51.640 yeah

00:52:51.900 it's

00:52:52.060 a

00:52:52.200 different

00:52:52.480 Texas

00:52:52.940 but

00:52:53.200 it

00:52:53.320 is

00:52:53.520 Texan

00:52:54.060 very

00:52:55.340 much

00:52:55.680 and

00:52:55.780 we

00:52:55.880 don't

00:52:56.020 see

00:52:56.200 a

00:52:56.340 lot

00:52:56.480 of

00:52:56.560 that

00:52:56.720 in

00:52:56.860 mainstream

00:52:57.240 comics

00:52:58.040 especially

00:52:58.580 at

00:52:59.540 all

00:52:59.820 so

00:53:00.060 that's

00:53:00.600 the

00:53:00.720 cool

00:53:00.980 sort

00:53:01.260 of

00:53:01.360 things

00:53:01.640 it

00:53:01.800 is

00:53:02.020 that

00:53:02.180 we

00:53:02.400 get

00:53:03.140 to

00:53:03.320 do

00:53:03.600 and

00:53:04.340 because

00:53:04.920 we're

00:53:05.120 at

00:53:05.280 very

00:53:05.520 much

00:53:05.780 the

00:53:05.960 beginning

00:53:06.300 stages

00:53:06.880 these

00:53:07.400 writers

00:53:07.760 are

00:53:07.960 able

00:53:08.180 to

00:53:08.380 come

00:53:08.620 in

00:53:08.920 and

00:53:09.120 tell

00:53:10.040 a

00:53:10.300 believable

00:53:10.700 story

00:53:11.120 to

00:53:11.280 those

00:53:11.540 characters

00:53:12.000 but

00:53:12.240 they

00:53:12.400 do

00:53:12.600 have

00:53:12.920 a

00:53:13.300 bit

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00:53:13.820 creative

00:53:14.220 freedom

00:53:14.600 which

00:53:14.800 is

00:53:14.900 why

00:53:15.060 I

00:53:15.160 think

00:53:15.280 it's

00:53:15.420 so

00:53:15.520 attractive

00:53:15.960 for

00:53:16.680 them

00:53:16.860 to

00:53:16.960 be

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00:53:17.580 Riververse

00:53:18.020 are

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00:53:18.360 a

00:53:18.480 fan

00:53:18.600 of

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00:53:19.280 or

00:53:19.600 were

00:53:20.200 you

00:53:20.400 a

00:53:20.560 fan

00:53:20.720 of

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00:53:21.540 I

00:53:21.800 was

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00:55:09.880 care

00:55:10.140 that was

00:55:12.820 a true

00:55:13.100 ending

00:55:13.320 yeah

00:55:13.920 not

00:55:14.520 endgame

00:55:15.460 the infinity

00:55:16.300 war

00:55:16.620 because

00:55:16.940 endgame

00:55:17.500 was just

00:55:18.160 like

00:55:18.520 member

00:55:19.140 berries

00:55:19.520 you know

00:55:20.200 we're

00:55:20.340 gonna

00:55:20.420 bring

00:55:20.560 all

00:55:20.660 the

00:55:20.740 characters

00:55:20.980 together

00:55:21.280 we're

00:55:21.460 all

00:55:21.500 gonna

00:55:21.600 hold

00:55:21.780 hands

00:55:22.020 and sing

00:55:22.300 songs

00:55:22.620 about

00:55:22.880 everything

00:55:23.460 we did

00:55:23.780 together

00:55:24.080 have a

00:55:24.320 nice

00:55:24.460 day

00:55:24.680 i don't

00:55:25.000 get

00:55:25.220 with him

00:55:25.520 i didn't

00:55:25.820 even watch

00:55:26.300 the infinity

00:55:26.740 crap

00:55:27.080 the movies

00:55:27.540 because i'm

00:55:27.980 such a

00:55:28.340 obsessed with

00:55:28.900 the infinity

00:55:29.260 gauntlet

00:55:29.640 like why

00:55:30.340 did they not

00:55:30.900 introduce adam

00:55:31.600 warlock and

00:55:32.180 silver

00:55:32.400 don't get me

00:55:33.300 started man

00:55:33.860 that was one

00:55:35.000 of the biggest

00:55:35.500 drop they

00:55:35.920 imagine that

00:55:36.760 bringing in

00:55:37.440 they also brought

00:55:38.000 in thanos's

00:55:38.560 brother

00:55:38.820 after

00:55:39.740 after infinity

00:55:41.140 after the

00:55:42.100 infinity gauntlet

00:55:43.080 was complete

00:55:43.880 yeah they

00:55:44.580 brought him

00:55:44.940 in the mcu

00:55:45.380 yeah he's

00:55:46.300 starfox or

00:55:47.680 whatever it is

00:55:48.140 i don't know

00:55:48.700 what version

00:55:49.620 i think they

00:55:50.560 introduced him

00:55:51.180 in it might have

00:55:52.160 been eternals

00:55:52.700 i didn't see it

00:55:53.660 right but they

00:55:54.200 introduced him

00:55:55.520 oh yeah

00:55:56.560 eros

00:55:57.100 yeah

00:55:57.620 so i don't know

00:56:00.080 if they call him

00:56:00.540 eros or starfox

00:56:01.540 i'm not sure

00:56:02.040 yeah that's

00:56:02.380 stanos's brother

00:56:03.060 that movie sucked

00:56:03.780 but

00:56:04.160 but no that's

00:56:06.580 what i'm talking

00:56:07.040 about that's the

00:56:07.560 type of layups

00:56:08.400 it is that

00:56:08.940 frustrates me so

00:56:09.940 much because

00:56:10.360 that's the obvious

00:56:11.220 thing like

00:56:11.760 because they kind

00:56:12.580 of tease that

00:56:13.160 adam warlock

00:56:13.660 in that uh

00:56:14.500 guardians movie

00:56:15.420 with aisha

00:56:16.460 when she was

00:56:16.980 like i name

00:56:17.500 him adam

00:56:17.940 and then they

00:56:18.500 said yeah we'll

00:56:19.220 just leave that

00:56:19.720 alone and then

00:56:20.580 they bring in

00:56:21.200 adam warlock

00:56:22.060 after uh

00:56:23.740 and he's barely

00:56:24.460 a character

00:56:24.820 yeah and it's

00:56:25.940 like a dumb

00:56:26.800 bum bumbling

00:56:27.460 sort of idiot

00:56:28.240 there and it's

00:56:29.100 like what are

00:56:30.060 what in the

00:56:30.540 world are you

00:56:31.020 doing these

00:56:31.580 guys they

00:56:32.460 made him

00:56:32.760 really stupid

00:56:33.460 yeah he's a

00:56:34.220 dumb bum

00:56:34.800 he just didn't

00:56:35.540 have emotions

00:56:36.120 that's why he

00:56:36.660 was able to

00:56:37.020 control the

00:56:37.420 gauntlet have

00:56:38.000 right have you

00:56:38.740 seen guardians

00:56:39.800 3 no he's

00:56:41.000 just really

00:56:41.800 stupid that's

00:56:42.920 horrible he

00:56:43.920 didn't he

00:56:44.280 wasn't necessarily

00:56:44.920 brilliant but

00:56:46.020 he wasn't

00:56:46.480 emotional no so

00:56:47.440 he was able to

00:56:48.000 like thread the

00:56:49.760 cosmic limit

00:56:50.500 yeah that he

00:56:51.880 look one of my

00:56:52.920 favorite character

00:56:53.420 captain marvel as

00:56:54.260 well i mean that's

00:56:54.900 that was really when

00:56:55.820 i was really got

00:56:56.960 started started to

00:56:57.900 get frustrated

00:56:58.400 marvell or

00:56:58.960 marvell they

00:56:59.600 the marvell uh

00:57:00.980 them turning him

00:57:01.580 into a freaking

00:57:02.260 woman uh and

00:57:03.880 and him not being

00:57:04.820 is she gay uh i

00:57:06.260 don't know what

00:57:06.720 i'm not sure i'm

00:57:08.140 not sure for the

00:57:08.940 record this is adam

00:57:09.720 warlock in the

00:57:10.560 middle leading the

00:57:11.600 charge of the

00:57:12.420 infinity gauntlet

00:57:13.040 with the heroes

00:57:13.740 to save the day

00:57:14.420 he was the main

00:57:15.260 everybody thought

00:57:16.120 he was gonna be

00:57:16.880 in in like you

00:57:18.080 know that you

00:57:18.500 know that part

00:57:19.000 in endgame where

00:57:20.120 um captain marvel

00:57:22.200 their version of

00:57:23.200 captain marvel flew

00:57:24.060 down that should

00:57:24.760 have been adam

00:57:25.180 warlock it's yeah

00:57:26.080 yeah you know

00:57:26.620 yeah and but

00:57:27.540 captain marvel

00:57:28.040 wasn't even in

00:57:28.520 the book this is

00:57:28.980 no not at all i

00:57:30.120 think this is when

00:57:31.100 we all started to

00:57:31.740 see the cracks when

00:57:32.700 i when i went to

00:57:33.420 see uh endgame the

00:57:35.340 scene where all the

00:57:36.080 women come together

00:57:37.520 the audience groaned

00:57:39.060 because i was in uh

00:57:40.280 i was in uh western

00:57:41.520 maryland when i went

00:57:43.000 to see endgame and

00:57:44.760 a lot of people were

00:57:45.640 talking about how

00:57:46.280 when they did the

00:57:46.740 women's scene

00:57:47.380 everyone's like

00:57:47.800 whoo they're

00:57:48.340 clapping and

00:57:48.780 cheering i'm like

00:57:49.180 not where i was

00:57:49.760 they went oh

00:57:50.840 that was so corny

00:57:52.860 man it was so such

00:57:53.920 a forced uh element

00:57:55.000 and then captain

00:57:55.920 marvel doesn't really

00:57:56.820 even have an impact

00:57:57.900 on like they they

00:57:58.880 they did it perfectly

00:57:59.940 as far as uh for

00:58:01.220 their finances and

00:58:02.140 that they hyped the

00:58:03.100 character up kevin

00:58:04.020 feige it's like oh

00:58:04.800 she's the strongest

00:58:05.660 uh in our universe so

00:58:07.340 it tried to

00:58:07.780 incentivize people

00:58:08.560 which it did i guess

00:58:09.460 it made a billion

00:58:10.020 dollars to see it but

00:58:11.240 she had really no

00:58:12.060 impact on the on the

00:58:13.620 story per se she was

00:58:15.000 like at the beginning

00:58:15.720 of endgame and then

00:58:17.060 she shows up at the

00:58:18.000 end and dano still

00:58:19.020 it is it was the

00:58:20.580 cringiest thing to

00:58:22.240 like first of all

00:58:23.520 what i've been saying

00:58:24.540 from the get-go is if

00:58:25.300 they wanted to do

00:58:26.020 captain marvel as the

00:58:26.940 lady version robin

00:58:27.740 right is the actress

00:58:28.540 for the job because

00:58:29.900 she she like she if

00:58:31.820 you look at robin

00:58:32.780 right and you look at

00:58:33.640 the character of

00:58:34.080 captain robin you're

00:58:34.480 like oh yeah she

00:58:34.900 could totally play

00:58:35.320 that role plus she's

00:58:36.940 got a more of a

00:58:38.060 presence and a like

00:58:40.360 i don't want to say

00:58:41.280 this but a physical

00:58:42.960 body brie larson's

00:58:43.960 like a hundred

00:58:44.340 pounds soaking wet

00:58:45.220 and here she is

00:58:46.300 grabbing thanos and

00:58:47.440 and he's going

00:58:47.940 and being struggling

00:58:49.320 on dude it's such a

00:58:51.040 bad version of the

00:58:52.100 character i mean it's

00:58:52.980 a relatively new

00:58:53.940 phenomena that she

00:58:55.100 became captain marvel

00:58:56.100 that was like what

00:58:56.580 2012 if i'm not

00:58:57.640 mistaken so they

00:58:59.200 fast-tracked that

00:59:00.140 character into the

00:59:01.200 into the universe uh

00:59:02.720 for some odd reason

00:59:04.040 the crazy thing is i

00:59:05.960 remember them talking

00:59:06.960 about how brie

00:59:07.640 larson was going to

00:59:08.280 take over for robert

00:59:09.080 downey jr they the

00:59:11.540 mcu marvel studios did

00:59:13.480 this thing where they

00:59:14.060 would take lesser

00:59:14.660 known actors and

00:59:15.400 actresses put them in

00:59:16.740 these roles of iconic

00:59:17.400 characters and they'd

00:59:18.320 instantly be like they

00:59:19.640 would reach stardom yeah

00:59:21.100 all of a sudden you

00:59:22.060 know they resurrect

00:59:23.160 robert downey jr's

00:59:24.020 career then you get uh

00:59:25.720 you know chris evans

00:59:26.760 all of a sudden boom

00:59:27.660 he's a lister toby

00:59:28.800 mcguire he was kind

00:59:30.120 of well he's not

00:59:30.700 marvel studios oh but

00:59:32.220 definitely doing that

00:59:32.960 spider-man uh movie was

00:59:34.480 big and that was

00:59:35.100 awesome and everyone's

00:59:35.740 screaming and cheering

00:59:36.300 when all the spider-man

00:59:37.020 come together spider-mans

00:59:38.380 i guess you'd say

00:59:38.920 but so you're right so

00:59:40.920 captain marvel is not

00:59:42.260 this character is not

00:59:43.300 some iconic ip like

00:59:44.440 iron man like the

00:59:45.340 hulk like captain

00:59:46.000 america and then

00:59:47.140 they're like we're

00:59:47.660 gonna have i bet they

00:59:49.000 were thinking we can

00:59:50.220 have brie larson come

00:59:50.980 in take this character

00:59:52.280 it doesn't matter who

00:59:53.060 we do because they

00:59:54.280 didn't think iron man

00:59:55.240 was going to be big

00:59:55.900 the iron man was one

00:59:57.640 of their lesser ips

00:59:58.540 spider-man was the big

01:00:00.180 marvel intellectual property

01:00:01.240 but then iron man

01:00:02.320 leads the mcu and

01:00:03.480 becomes this multi-billion

01:00:04.780 dollar character

01:00:05.560 component of the

01:00:06.360 franchise and they're

01:00:07.640 thinking brie larson

01:00:08.680 will come in robert

01:00:09.480 dunney jr exits and

01:00:10.720 then she will be the

01:00:11.560 recurring character

01:00:12.200 throughout the next

01:00:12.960 phase the next arc

01:00:14.300 uh i got too cocky

01:00:15.940 man but brie larson's

01:00:17.440 unlikable ultra woke

01:00:19.260 snooty and just people

01:00:21.920 were just like well we

01:00:22.660 don't like her here's

01:00:23.300 the thing like they

01:00:24.220 they got behind and

01:00:25.480 this is what it was

01:00:26.340 it was basically a

01:00:27.080 repeat of uh of all

01:00:28.880 new all different if

01:00:29.860 you understand all these

01:00:30.780 characters that they're

01:00:31.660 introducing including

01:00:32.660 riri williams right

01:00:33.760 that that this is

01:00:34.880 these are recent

01:00:35.860 phenomenas miss marvel

01:00:37.060 even for that matter

01:00:38.040 um or kamala kamala

01:00:41.060 khan yeah being miss

01:00:42.100 marvel and that's what

01:00:43.320 that's what puts the

01:00:44.600 mcu in just such a

01:00:45.820 tough spot right now

01:00:47.480 in that they don't

01:00:48.900 have anything to turn

01:00:50.280 this thing around like

01:00:51.640 you look at what's on

01:00:52.800 the horizon echo um

01:00:54.880 or black captain america

01:00:56.120 they're doing all that

01:00:57.180 uh uh like reshoots and

01:00:59.520 stuff uh with that um

01:01:01.860 you know agatha the

01:01:03.920 marvels failed obviously

01:01:05.100 the marvels made less

01:01:06.880 money than the original

01:01:07.960 hulk you know what it

01:01:09.000 is it's stan lee man he

01:01:10.580 was marvel comics it was

01:01:12.060 his creativity that made

01:01:13.180 it good and when he

01:01:13.900 died kirby jack kirby

01:01:15.760 came in it was a team but

01:01:17.360 it was those guys and

01:01:18.380 then it's not the name

01:01:19.840 marvel that makes it

01:01:20.720 great it was the people

01:01:21.840 that happened to be

01:01:23.140 working with it well

01:01:23.960 that's the thing man if

01:01:25.080 something like this is

01:01:25.920 gonna work you have to

01:01:26.920 have people that are

01:01:27.800 part of these products

01:01:29.040 that are part of the

01:01:29.840 creation aspect of it

01:01:31.260 that actually care about

01:01:32.320 it right and and that's

01:01:33.620 what it just i think the

01:01:34.900 audience picks up on

01:01:36.060 this i think that was

01:01:36.760 why the i think that's

01:01:38.180 part of why the

01:01:38.980 ripper verse is as

01:01:39.760 successful as it is is

01:01:40.980 because you know we they

01:01:42.240 can see that like this

01:01:43.420 is not just we're not

01:01:44.820 just throwing out slop

01:01:45.960 just to do it do it like

01:01:47.260 we actually are invested

01:01:48.480 in this and i don't get

01:01:49.820 the sense that anybody

01:01:50.680 feels that way about the

01:01:51.920 marvel cinematic universe

01:01:53.000 that the creatives

01:01:54.120 actually care the writers

01:01:55.580 or actually care about

01:01:57.140 any of these characters

01:01:58.120 it is that they're

01:01:58.740 writing you know you

01:01:59.520 know uh uh i'll tell

01:02:00.740 you why batman's my

01:02:02.080 favorite character

01:02:02.740 he has no superpowers

01:02:04.380 no he batman i get

01:02:06.660 everyone goes yeah but

01:02:07.320 he's born rich and

01:02:08.100 inherited all his money

01:02:08.620 that's not the point

01:02:09.320 the point is that

01:02:10.500 batman's character is

01:02:11.940 this kid who experiences

01:02:13.160 trauma and decides to

01:02:14.820 solve problems by

01:02:16.100 training himself to

01:02:17.140 the peak of human

01:02:18.060 physical condition and

01:02:18.940 mental condition to be

01:02:20.260 the best i love the

01:02:21.840 general idea in comic

01:02:23.060 book lore given enough

01:02:24.600 time batman can defeat

01:02:25.900 any villain no i love

01:02:27.680 the with a crossover

01:02:28.500 with marvel batman

01:02:29.420 defeats the hulk how

01:02:30.740 could a regular human

01:02:31.640 with no powers defeat

01:02:32.460 the hulk he throws

01:02:33.920 nerve gas strikes his

01:02:36.000 solar plexus causing

01:02:37.020 hulk to inhale hulk

01:02:38.260 passes out it's it's

01:02:39.720 excellent writing how

01:02:40.960 they're like this idea

01:02:42.460 that you don't have to

01:02:43.580 have superpowers you

01:02:44.860 don't have to be born

01:02:45.720 with gifts you can earn

01:02:47.260 your way into being one

01:02:48.260 of the greats i love

01:02:49.380 injustice league they're

01:02:50.800 interrogating superman

01:02:52.000 there and so i can't

01:02:52.920 remember who it was

01:02:53.280 like they're interrogating

01:02:53.960 a villain it's like i'll

01:02:54.580 never talk and then

01:02:55.880 batman's like let me

01:02:56.700 handle this whispers in

01:02:57.580 his ear and the guy

01:02:58.060 goes i'll tell you

01:02:58.800 anything yeah that what

01:03:00.120 they're showing there is

01:03:00.900 obviously we don't know

01:03:01.680 what batman said but

01:03:03.140 they're showing that even

01:03:04.440 superman the most

01:03:05.280 powerful being on earth

01:03:06.420 doesn't have the ability

01:03:07.460 to manipulate or

01:03:08.340 understand the human

01:03:09.120 mind but batman through

01:03:10.520 training and understanding

01:03:11.800 humans can be more

01:03:14.540 powerful than all of them

01:03:15.660 not to mention batman has

01:03:17.140 the means of of taking

01:03:18.440 out any justice league

01:03:19.700 member he's basically

01:03:21.020 the most powerful

01:03:21.740 justice league member

01:03:22.480 that's why lex luther

01:03:23.280 was cool too he's just

01:03:24.180 a brilliant charismatic

01:03:25.440 dude and he represented

01:03:26.800 like an evil version of

01:03:28.740 corporate ceo now let's

01:03:32.100 talk about captain marvel

01:03:34.200 movie so you've got this

01:03:36.040 character they're like

01:03:37.340 we're gonna make strong

01:03:38.380 lady boss what's her

01:03:40.440 character arc she

01:03:42.080 intrinsically has the

01:03:43.180 power it was an accident

01:03:44.140 she just has it and there

01:03:45.460 is a man jude law telling

01:03:46.900 her to suppress her

01:03:47.640 emotions and putting a

01:03:49.060 device on her neck to

01:03:49.940 hold her powers back

01:03:50.900 it makes literally no

01:03:52.060 sense story-wise she's a

01:03:53.600 bad person she robs a guy

01:03:54.920 because he tells her to

01:03:55.640 smile batman's the kind

01:03:57.320 of character where if a

01:03:58.720 guy made a snide comment

01:03:59.920 he'd be like this is

01:04:01.100 irrelevant to me captain

01:04:03.000 marvel's a character when

01:04:03.880 a guy makes us not even

01:04:05.060 a sign he's like you

01:04:05.680 should smile more she

01:04:07.260 robs the guy and steals

01:04:08.560 his clothing they think

01:04:10.120 that's something we we

01:04:11.160 want to celebrate as a

01:04:12.120 hero no wonder no wonder

01:04:14.200 it's all spiraling out of

01:04:14.980 control well they don't

01:04:16.380 understand heroism at

01:04:17.800 all um again the

01:04:19.680 creatives themselves

01:04:20.760 don't understand that

01:04:22.020 and i think you got a

01:04:22.720 big peek into that that

01:04:24.460 world with um with the

01:04:26.240 captain marvel movie

01:04:27.280 there these people

01:04:28.380 beginning of the end

01:04:29.100 woke people live in a

01:04:30.600 world of you know i guess

01:04:32.420 i need to say godlessness

01:04:33.540 they view themselves as

01:04:36.100 the center of the

01:04:36.600 universe they think

01:04:38.160 their experiences is

01:04:39.540 paramount and so that

01:04:40.880 explains why these

01:04:42.140 characters behave the

01:04:42.780 way they do yes where

01:04:44.020 when you uh i often

01:04:45.220 cite this when you look

01:04:47.160 at there's this great

01:04:48.300 video comparing

01:04:49.140 captain america's the

01:04:50.280 first movie with

01:04:51.500 captain marvel and

01:04:52.840 captain america is a

01:04:54.580 scrawny kid who has a

01:04:56.300 ton of physical ailments

01:04:57.320 but wants to serve his

01:04:59.420 country so bad he tries

01:05:00.260 to lie to get in he's

01:05:02.380 got nothing powerful

01:05:03.220 about him but his

01:05:03.800 character so he is

01:05:05.020 chosen for the super

01:05:05.740 soldier program the

01:05:07.100 great scene where uh

01:05:08.500 what is it to tommy

01:05:09.440 lee throws the dummy

01:05:11.620 grenades as i don't want

01:05:12.720 character i want strong

01:05:13.920 men and then all the

01:05:15.100 guys run away but steve

01:05:16.240 rogers jumps on the

01:05:17.340 grenade and then you

01:05:18.960 know uh stanley

01:05:19.800 teaches character smiles

01:05:20.600 like that's the

01:05:21.380 character that we want

01:05:22.200 yeah captain marvel is

01:05:23.160 the opposite of that

01:05:23.740 she was a snooty self

01:05:25.600 entitled person who

01:05:26.360 just had the power to

01:05:27.180 begin with and they

01:05:28.520 were like jude law's

01:05:30.340 character is like

01:05:30.980 control your emotions

01:05:32.220 it's like what what is

01:05:33.320 this what does that

01:05:34.500 have to do with

01:05:34.860 anything and then

01:05:35.580 finally in the end she

01:05:36.640 realizes she had the

01:05:37.980 power all along but

01:05:38.780 the man the man was

01:05:39.800 keeping her down and

01:05:40.940 she breaks the device

01:05:41.740 and then uses her powers

01:05:42.780 it's just like she's not

01:05:44.020 deserving of this also

01:05:44.980 it sounds like they

01:05:45.760 they wrote that poorly

01:05:46.720 if her emotions were

01:05:47.880 suppressed she wouldn't

01:05:48.740 have robbed that guy for

01:05:49.840 telling her to smile

01:05:50.780 exactly she was just a

01:05:52.720 bad and people say no

01:05:54.020 you gotta understand

01:05:54.680 that's her character arc

01:05:55.920 that she was a bad

01:05:57.560 person and she becomes a

01:05:58.760 good person i'm like

01:05:59.540 nope she's a bad person

01:06:00.500 the whole time like even

01:06:01.920 in the end she's still a

01:06:02.980 bad person yeah she gets

01:06:04.620 revenge on the man who

01:06:06.020 is telling her to

01:06:06.800 suppress her emotions

01:06:07.480 just and then and then

01:06:09.020 on top of that like she

01:06:10.260 leaves for what because

01:06:12.360 that was technically the

01:06:13.440 movie takes place in the

01:06:14.420 mid 90s and they took

01:06:15.720 to my knowledge still

01:06:16.980 haven't explained really

01:06:18.320 okay you found out all

01:06:20.360 this new stuff about you

01:06:21.420 you're actually from

01:06:22.120 earth and all this other

01:06:23.040 stuff you've stumbled

01:06:24.140 across this information

01:06:25.300 and instead of taking

01:06:28.200 care of business on earth

01:06:29.320 she goes and flies off

01:06:31.140 for decades or however

01:06:32.940 long that she's gone

01:06:34.100 doesn't age

01:06:34.720 it doesn't age obviously

01:06:36.540 but no like the

01:06:37.780 explanation is so corny

01:06:39.140 because she's like like

01:06:40.920 you remember that scene

01:06:41.660 in endgame where rhodi

01:06:42.820 asked her like well

01:06:43.560 what what the hell have

01:06:44.440 you been and she's like

01:06:45.240 well y'all already had

01:06:46.080 heroes and i'm like

01:06:47.080 yeah they should have

01:06:49.080 explained that she was

01:06:49.780 flying at the speed of

01:06:50.580 light so time was moving

01:06:51.720 faster for everyone on

01:06:52.880 earth but she didn't only

01:06:53.820 experienced a few seconds

01:06:54.620 it was just hey she was

01:06:55.540 basically like yeah

01:06:56.380 granted yeah i found all

01:06:57.800 this out about my family

01:06:58.860 being from here but yeah

01:07:00.180 i just went off that's

01:07:01.360 the other thing so in the

01:07:03.540 mcu they travel by using

01:07:05.440 the jump points where you

01:07:07.340 can see the uh the grid

01:07:09.040 like structure open up and

01:07:10.360 then they jump from point

01:07:11.180 to point that's how they

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01:08:40.140 captain marvel can fly fast in

01:08:45.140 the speed of light so your

01:08:46.600 explanation i'm sorry ian makes

01:08:47.660 no sense because in endgame she

01:08:49.260 rescues robert downey j

01:08:51.120 iron man at the beginning

01:08:52.280 and uh right at the beginning

01:08:53.880 yeah it's it's iron man and

01:08:55.700 um what's nebula is rescued by

01:08:59.080 captain marvel who physically

01:09:00.680 grabs the ship and flies it to

01:09:02.400 earth so uh huh none of it

01:09:06.140 makes it's not good it's right

01:09:07.840 but again i i think they wanted

01:09:09.400 to put that character over it was

01:09:11.300 so it just wasn't organic man it

01:09:13.560 was like the character wasn't

01:09:15.340 liked in the comics nobody was i

01:09:16.820 mean i don't know if you guys

01:09:17.880 knew how many times they tried to

01:09:19.360 reboot captain no how many

01:09:20.960 malt i did a video it was back

01:09:23.380 when i was still doing these

01:09:24.380 types of videos and i think we

01:09:25.780 were up to like eight like how

01:09:27.640 many times during that decade of

01:09:29.280 her being rebooted like uh

01:09:30.960 several times they just wasn't

01:09:32.280 catching on um but i don't know

01:09:34.260 if it was because of the marvel

01:09:35.480 cinematic universe they were like

01:09:36.800 we have to get behind this

01:09:38.300 character so they were trying to

01:09:40.000 put a character over that nobody

01:09:41.380 was really interested in uh in the

01:09:43.840 first place uh and then again it

01:09:45.960 was just she was she's

01:09:47.320 disinteresting as a character brie

01:09:49.040 larson it's not the most

01:09:50.880 charismatic person uh uh in the

01:09:53.120 world that character was casting

01:09:54.700 choice ever it was such a it's it's

01:09:57.340 a they were set up for failure it

01:10:00.160 sounds like it was a ripoff of

01:10:01.580 superman like it was their version

01:10:03.340 of superman marvel because they

01:10:04.440 called him marvell and it was just

01:10:06.360 like all it was was just this lame

01:10:08.020 ass superman i think it was more of

01:10:10.360 they wanted a a strong female

01:10:14.580 character to write because you know

01:10:16.200 you gotta understand around the time

01:10:17.960 she was introduced you also had

01:10:19.940 wonder woman was killing it for dc

01:10:22.540 right and i think they wanted their

01:10:25.280 it wasn't scarlet i guess they felt

01:10:27.200 like it wasn't scarlet witch they

01:10:29.180 wanted that uber powerful like female

01:10:31.960 character oh i meant the original

01:10:33.540 captain marvel dude marvell oh gee

01:10:36.040 marvell oh well yeah well he was far

01:10:38.600 more interesting uh than than uh i

01:10:41.040 mean for people that don't know that

01:10:43.300 was uh such a prominent character

01:10:45.040 in marvel 1967 yeah captain marvel and

01:10:48.220 then they decide to make uh marvell a

01:10:50.280 woman yes he's been he was that it was

01:10:52.860 a big book by the way the death of

01:10:54.320 captain marvel was a massive book that

01:10:56.160 was the first uh the first uh graphic

01:10:57.960 novel produced by marvel um that was a

01:11:01.480 huge book very important character to

01:11:03.580 thanos's arc obviously that was the

01:11:05.160 first big villain of thanos and they

01:11:07.060 turned him into a woman uh in the

01:11:09.400 captain marvel but they made miss

01:11:11.940 marvel captain marvel uh and uh though

01:11:15.580 that happened in the books first and

01:11:16.940 then they made uh marvell a woman and i

01:11:19.200 remember wanting to throw my chicken

01:11:20.580 strips uh at the at the i'm reading

01:11:23.060 here that uh dc comics sued faucet

01:11:25.660 comics for breach of copyright claiming

01:11:27.400 that faucet's captain marvel is too

01:11:29.280 similar to superman yeah so they stopped

01:11:31.420 publishing it in 1953 and then in the

01:11:33.560 late 60s they got the trademark captain

01:11:35.780 marvel and i guess then they were

01:11:37.240 legally allowed to yeah it's just a

01:11:38.900 superman ripoff i i like dc better than

01:11:42.040 uh marvel i just i couldn't get into it

01:11:44.040 i i mean i thought superman i thought

01:11:45.700 the characters were too generic in dc like

01:11:48.220 superman just was like he can do

01:11:50.280 everything and i was like well superman

01:11:52.120 can literally shoot little supermans out

01:11:54.540 of his hand and then did you know that

01:11:55.840 but marvel i liked i guess i was told by

01:11:58.100 my friend that introduced me to comics

01:11:59.460 that marvel was better so i always thought

01:12:01.040 it was better and that the heroes had

01:12:02.840 psychological trauma whereas in dc it

01:12:04.800 was just more about like superpowers

01:12:07.160 brute strength and just like it took

01:12:09.700 them a little bit to get away from that

01:12:11.240 um for sure i was i didn't i mean i read

01:12:14.000 both of them growing up i never really

01:12:15.680 um gravitated towards one or the other

01:12:18.200 though my favorite character growing up

01:12:19.960 was flash um and then it kind of morphed

01:12:22.280 into batman as an adult but uh yeah i

01:12:25.520 was i was reading them reading them

01:12:26.960 both and i thought there was there was

01:12:28.420 good things about about the uh the two

01:12:30.660 of them for sure oh one of superman's

01:12:32.840 powers was to shoot a small superman from

01:12:35.360 his hand look at that like people people

01:12:37.660 don't understand this when we look at

01:12:39.380 superman what is his x-ray vision laser

01:12:41.180 vision frost breath frost breath he can

01:12:43.380 fly you know as fast as flash these powers

01:12:46.560 have no they make no sense and what they

01:12:49.680 try generic name super man but back then

01:12:52.980 that wasn't like it is to us now bat man

01:12:56.100 people need spider man right back then

01:12:58.640 that was new those were new ideas and so

01:13:00.780 people need to understand they actually

01:13:02.120 got rid of a lot of powers because

01:13:03.840 originally superman couldn't fly he could

01:13:05.820 just leap tall you know in a single

01:13:08.320 bound that was now i do like how they

01:13:10.840 often try to explain the powers in some

01:13:12.860 scientific way i'm a fan of yeah for

01:13:14.580 sure uh they he was fleshed out all of

01:13:16.840 them were fleshed out especially once you

01:13:18.720 start going into like the the late 50s

01:13:21.060 going into the 60s where they were

01:13:22.460 trying to uh they that was when like the

01:13:25.280 green lantern stuff started to switch up

01:13:27.080 and now green lantern instead of it just

01:13:28.660 being alan scott it became the green

01:13:30.820 lantern core right uh in the ring and all

01:13:33.180 that stuff uh so yeah they they they were

01:13:36.340 fleshing out these characters i feel like

01:13:38.100 it was very power oriented in the 30s and

01:13:42.360 40s it was like hey here's a guy that

01:13:44.620 just does this really cool thing and

01:13:46.680 superman was their version of like and i

01:13:49.140 try to be fair to them because it's like

01:13:50.980 you couldn't imagine creating these

01:13:53.360 characters it's even like a batman and

01:13:55.300 you're thinking as you're creating them

01:13:56.740 like yeah this character is gonna end up

01:13:59.680 being like a fabric of american culture

01:14:02.560 they transcend like spider-man people

01:14:05.520 are like this is the stupidest thing i've

01:14:06.720 ever heard spider powers and now it's

01:14:09.100 marvel's top ip yeah exactly i credit

01:14:11.240 stan stan lee again like 1963 fantastic

01:14:14.360 four they go out into space and get

01:14:15.640 bombarded by cosmic rays the incredible

01:14:17.560 hulk gets bombarded in the lab like gamma

01:14:20.200 radiation in that year man stan lee just

01:14:22.500 had this like creative he was on fire him

01:14:24.740 jack uh yeah fire like jack jack kirby

01:14:27.540 yeah what a team uh they were um they

01:14:31.200 were on fire i mean going into like late

01:14:33.500 late 50s going into the obviously fantastic

01:14:35.660 four being their first family but i mean

01:14:38.080 between the thors and the hulks and the

01:14:40.420 um you know obviously the avengers if you

01:14:43.000 want those ant-mans and iron man's of the

01:14:44.760 world in there uh you can certainly throw

01:14:47.280 that in there obviously x-man was the 60s

01:14:49.640 as well uh when those got created as well

01:14:52.220 that was such a crazy decade when you

01:14:54.240 think about it well x-men's funny the uh

01:14:56.940 the reason why they created mutants was

01:14:59.040 because they were lazy yeah they were

01:15:00.760 like we can't just keep creating origin

01:15:02.100 stories for heroes we want to make new

01:15:03.500 characters just call them a mutant

01:15:04.400 stan lee flat out admit it is i talked

01:15:06.540 about this before because a lot of people

01:15:07.780 lie and they talk about like this whole

01:15:09.520 civil rights bullcrap i was like they had

01:15:11.580 nothing to do with why the mutants were

01:15:13.000 conceptualized stan lee has flat out

01:15:14.940 admitted he was like look the more

01:15:16.460 difficult it's easy to come up with

01:15:17.760 powers the difficult thing to do is to

01:15:19.660 come up with why they have them so why

01:15:21.900 why don't i just call them mutants and

01:15:23.640 i'd say they're just born that way that

01:15:25.260 was why they were conceptual and the

01:15:26.980 original the original idea like when we

01:15:29.260 look at x-men now you have mutants and

01:15:32.120 it's like there are mutants and there

01:15:33.140 are humans there's a conflict between

01:15:34.500 them and back then that concept didn't

01:15:37.120 matter and it didn't exist you'd see a

01:15:38.760 guy firing a laser beam from his hand

01:15:40.320 and they'd be like who is this i'm a

01:15:42.180 mutant and that's it there's no story

01:15:43.840 there's no background nobody cares but

01:15:45.820 eventually they're like hey we we have

01:15:48.760 something here with all of these

01:15:49.920 mutants why don't we make this a thing

01:15:52.200 yeah and then you end up with all

01:15:54.440 people are born with the x gene which

01:15:56.700 gives them mutant powers or whatever

01:15:58.260 right is it you think it's safe to build

01:16:00.280 like crisper children now uh in that

01:16:03.680 vein and like all these genetically

01:16:05.160 engineered yeah it's like i gotta be

01:16:07.060 engineered i don't think we have the

01:16:09.120 technology right now to genetically

01:16:10.460 engineer someone to be able to shape

01:16:12.180 shift no i mean fire lasers from the

01:16:13.780 comics in the comics so instead of

01:16:15.280 mutants in the ripiverse you'd have

01:16:16.620 like the genetically engineered culture

01:16:18.640 uh the boys and gen v is basically

01:16:21.560 operation it was paperclip right when

01:16:24.580 we took the nazi scientists the they

01:16:26.880 the boys is basically we paperclip these

01:16:29.520 nazi scientists who are working on

01:16:31.080 super soldier serums they inject babies

01:16:33.540 with it because uh adults who get v will

01:16:36.940 start to die and they've so they can

01:16:39.240 temporarily get powers but it just rots

01:16:40.820 their brain out but babies can adapt to

01:16:42.740 it and then it flows through their

01:16:44.900 system as they get older giving them

01:16:46.080 powers so basically you i think the

01:16:50.060 boys is a great show i i do think the

01:16:51.700 politics are a little ham-fisted but

01:16:53.420 the general idea was in the beginning

01:16:54.660 some people are born with power some

01:16:55.860 people aren't then you realize

01:16:57.160 actually no this big corporation goes

01:16:59.360 to a family and says how would you like

01:17:00.660 your kid to have superpowers don't

01:17:02.180 tell anyone ever or we'll kill you and

01:17:04.260 then they inject the baby with some

01:17:05.460 chemical or it could be like there was

01:17:06.800 a pole shift in 1993 and ever since

01:17:09.560 it's like affected like 0.1 percent of

01:17:11.640 the population and now there's like

01:17:13.160 just these people yeah there's a there's

01:17:14.720 a that was um what was that what was

01:17:16.340 that show they did on netflix that got

01:17:17.520 canceled uh you know i'm talking about

01:17:19.900 where the where the the aliens give

01:17:22.380 these people superpowers but then it

01:17:23.740 ripples across the planet giving

01:17:25.120 everybody powers i don't know i'm not

01:17:27.260 sure um i like that show and they

01:17:29.760 canceled it which kind of sucks what's

01:17:31.180 it called what was it it's on netflix

01:17:32.860 yeah it was a netflix show um i can't

01:17:36.460 remember what it was called but uh it's

01:17:38.320 about like a group of friends in the

01:17:39.800 30s or something on like some

01:17:41.120 expedition and they end up discovering

01:17:42.980 some like alien technology which says

01:17:45.340 we're going to grant you superpowers

01:17:46.420 and gives all these people powers and

01:17:48.200 then the wave that gives them powers

01:17:50.000 actually ripples across the planet

01:17:51.240 giving tons of people powers which

01:17:52.420 creates villains

01:17:52.960 yeah you guys ever see chronicle that

01:17:55.120 movie oh yeah was that was that the

01:17:56.880 one where they get the telekinesis the

01:17:58.200 three kids like come up on like a

01:17:59.780 meteor that crash and they all get

01:18:01.760 superpowers and one of them goes

01:18:03.120 psychotic

01:18:03.820 yeah they get the one that's been

01:18:05.140 abused by the telekinesis yeah man

01:18:07.140 that is pretty sick crazy

01:18:08.320 hell that's the fun thing about the

01:18:09.800 river verse is that you know we get

01:18:11.180 to if we can conceptualize that you

01:18:13.060 can make it happen um just gotta make

01:18:14.940 it oh jupiter's legacy people are

01:18:16.200 saying oh yeah yeah yeah yeah that was

01:18:17.500 uh mark is that mark mark millar did

01:18:19.620 he do

01:18:19.980 jupiter's they canceled it it's called

01:18:22.100 jupiter's legacy

01:18:22.840 yeah i wonder if mark mark because it's

01:18:25.780 funny he's going through some stuff

01:18:26.980 right now

01:18:27.440 going against a mob is it mark millar is

01:18:29.720 he the creator of yeah he is

01:18:31.060 and frank he's done everything

01:18:32.880 um yeah mark mark is uh going through

01:18:36.300 we call them cancel pigs all these

01:18:37.920 weirdos in the industry

01:18:39.760 uh so they're not they're very mad

01:18:42.840 but he's one of the guys that has

01:18:44.060 screw you money i think he sold off

01:18:45.680 i don't know if it was to netflix i

01:18:47.380 guess that would make sense but he's

01:18:49.040 the one guy uh in comics that can call

01:18:51.960 his shots man uh because you what he's

01:18:53.880 what else he's done kingsman i think

01:18:55.480 was another one of his uh kick ass it

01:18:58.240 was that i think that might be his as

01:18:59.720 well uh but yeah he's one of one of

01:19:02.000 few guys in comics that can call his own

01:19:03.660 shot shot shout out to to mark he had

01:19:06.080 nothing but good thing remember we had

01:19:07.200 that i saw remember that brief period

01:19:08.580 we had where seattle had real

01:19:10.060 superheroes

01:19:10.640 yeah they weren't my one of my

01:19:12.840 favorite moments from that was like

01:19:13.780 phoenix jones's name right yeah my one

01:19:15.800 of my favorite moments was when a riot

01:19:17.480 was like an antifa riot was happening

01:19:18.980 and phoenix was on the side of the

01:19:20.260 cops

01:19:20.560 and they're like you're a villain you're

01:19:22.220 a bad guy it's like i don't think

01:19:23.040 you understand what superheroes do

01:19:24.480 like

01:19:25.540 they like to think of themselves as the

01:19:27.760 superheroes that's exactly so in

01:19:29.600 these comics in a lot of comics like

01:19:31.700 punisher they're anti he's an

01:19:33.440 anti-hero

01:19:33.980 vigilantes typically are work will

01:19:36.480 help the police despite running from

01:19:38.720 them

01:19:39.020 spider-man's always helping cops but

01:19:40.760 then running from them

01:19:41.520 no they're trying to arrest him

01:19:42.740 punisher however is kind of like a

01:19:45.160 crazy guy but he's an anti-hero

01:19:46.920 you're right so we understand it

01:19:48.540 so when you get someone like phoenix

01:19:50.180 jones who's a dude wearing he's

01:19:51.500 what was he like an mma fighter or

01:19:52.820 something

01:19:53.080 puts on a costume and goes around

01:19:54.700 trying to fight crime

01:19:55.520 yeah he's not going to side with the

01:19:56.900 people who are burning buildings

01:19:58.220 down

01:19:58.560 well they they like to think of

01:19:59.860 themselves as the good guys and i

01:20:01.280 think that actually is part of why

01:20:02.920 their stories

01:20:03.840 a lot he's got stories just suck so

01:20:06.080 bad because they really don't

01:20:07.480 understand again what it takes to be

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01:21:35.240 uh hero because i think it's um you know

01:21:40.740 it's funny you bring up godlessness or

01:21:42.660 whether they're immoral and they just

01:21:44.240 don't understand whatever it may be

01:21:46.280 these guys like when they're doing this

01:21:48.600 goofy stuff they like to think they're

01:21:50.660 the good guys right so when batman

01:21:52.340 flies over something and says they got

01:21:54.000 insurance instead of dispersion of the

01:21:55.560 that writer's writing that thinking like

01:21:58.340 you're allowed to do this yes this is

01:22:00.100 this is what a hero would do so they

01:22:02.680 think of themselves as as the good the

01:22:04.840 good guys and that's a uh not too

01:22:07.940 philosophical but that's a hard villain

01:22:09.560 if you will to to to combat you know

01:22:11.920 what i mean because you can't really

01:22:13.580 appeal to their their morals because

01:22:15.360 they like to think of themselves as

01:22:16.960 doing good i love there's a villain in

01:22:18.580 the ripiverse that was a comic book

01:22:19.880 writer

01:22:20.240 he was like trap i don't know if he

01:22:23.220 throws i think he throws razor blade

01:22:25.500 comics we had to deal with the sales

01:22:26.820 man i love the scene in uh watchmen

01:22:28.400 when uh owl man and comedian fly over

01:22:32.000 the riot and they jump down like the

01:22:34.240 music's playing and he's just shooting

01:22:35.760 the rioters and he's like i love this

01:22:37.540 country that that that comic and and

01:22:40.320 that movie watchmen that film one of

01:22:43.100 my favorite films of all time and i i

01:22:46.340 think it's underrated not enough

01:22:47.820 people have seen this movie it's so

01:22:49.680 good i just it's got the iconic line

01:22:52.400 i'm not locked up in here with you

01:22:54.100 you're locked in here with me that was

01:22:56.180 so good when rorschach the guy gets the

01:22:58.460 shift and then he grabs the food tray

01:22:59.980 blocks it and then throws boiling oil

01:23:02.000 over the guy and then they're like if

01:23:04.280 that guy dies this whole place is gonna

01:23:05.700 riot and he's just calm as a you know

01:23:08.540 cool as a cucumber and then the dude

01:23:10.480 reaches through he ties his hands with

01:23:12.480 the with the with the towel or whatever

01:23:14.760 so then they cut his arms off dude that

01:23:17.440 movie's awesome did they ever explain

01:23:18.460 how rorschach was he like super strong

01:23:20.020 or was he just a martial artist well in

01:23:21.920 in watchmen they're basically just like

01:23:23.700 they're all trained so they don't have

01:23:25.680 powers or anything only only i think only

01:23:27.580 dr manhattan does but uh yeah but but

01:23:31.480 they're all like well-trained fighters

01:23:34.120 and uh ozyman diaz is just ultra well

01:23:37.020 trained and super intelligent and they

01:23:38.960 say that he's so fast you could catch a

01:23:40.440 bullet but it's lore and then actually

01:23:42.220 does in the end which is which is it's

01:23:43.740 fun movie but um rorschach's mask which

01:23:46.720 is the rorschach painting was created by

01:23:48.440 dr manhattan so the only super powered

01:23:50.880 being being in that is dr manhattan do

01:23:53.020 you guys have a super villain in uh the

01:23:55.720 ripper verse at the moment uh like a

01:23:58.840 thanos not not one like to that degree

01:24:01.780 but uh in alpha core you do you do get

01:24:04.780 to see um actually a couple of of villains

01:24:08.540 per se one actually is big driver of the

01:24:11.200 of the plot um in the new book by chuck

01:24:14.500 dick he's so good at man creating new

01:24:16.480 characters and villains um but yeah he's

01:24:19.480 in there he's in there we haven't got

01:24:21.280 quite to where you know we're trying to

01:24:23.420 take it a step at a time we haven't got

01:24:25.360 to like thanos level three yet like thanos

01:24:27.940 was a villain of i think the fantastic four

01:24:30.880 like no it's he start thanos started with

01:24:33.200 iron man technically first that was when

01:24:35.280 he was introduced and then he fought um

01:24:38.460 marville marville was his first big

01:24:40.800 villain and then obviously after that it

01:24:42.360 was adam warlock yeah the invincible

01:24:44.020 iron man 1970s iron man's his first

01:24:46.100 appearance what they would do is every

01:24:47.220 group would have a villain or a set of

01:24:49.340 villains and then eventually those

01:24:50.900 villains would cross over yes but like

01:24:52.920 the fantastic four had galact uh galactus

01:24:55.460 and then like spider-man had uh dr octopus

01:24:57.880 and like they never galactus you know not

01:25:00.200 and so but then you get the crossovers

01:25:01.640 and that's when like that's when it got

01:25:02.760 that's when it got crazy i do love how

01:25:05.800 uh dc and marvel just kept ripping each

01:25:07.860 other off like deadpool and deathstroke

01:25:10.140 so i think uh deadpool was was a rip

01:25:12.780 off of deathstroke right or parody i guess

01:25:15.300 is what they right uh what he was because

01:25:18.060 what is it and his name like uh because

01:25:20.460 he's like what slate lawton is his name

01:25:22.220 wade wilson and slate wilson yeah slate

01:25:24.200 yo that's what it is but i think like

01:25:25.920 originally deadpool was a bit more

01:25:27.380 serious but then he eventually became

01:25:29.000 this character yeah he wasn't funny i

01:25:30.500 have his first appearance i used to read

01:25:31.580 a lot of x-force and that's where he

01:25:32.780 got introduced yeah he wasn't funny at

01:25:34.600 all and then uh uh what um there's

01:25:37.360 thanos and then what do you what do you

01:25:38.900 have dark side is basically like dc

01:25:41.020 thanos uh he can see he's similar just

01:25:43.260 laser beams that he shoots right and

01:25:45.400 they they arc yeah whatever they do

01:25:47.640 freaking those things are freaking crazy

01:25:49.240 man um i was watching a movie the other

01:25:50.940 day with him in it uh but yeah like

01:25:52.660 there there's uh you start to see

01:25:54.500 some like there's a version of that

01:25:56.600 character uh i mean you gotta understand

01:25:58.940 i mean a lot of those guys were

01:26:00.240 crossing over a lot um you know too

01:26:03.120 even if we talk about like uh you know

01:26:05.800 dark side because uh wasn't all that

01:26:08.400 new god stuff and i think was that

01:26:10.160 kirby if i'm not mistaken that did

01:26:12.200 someone looked that up what's it called

01:26:13.640 new gods the new gods yeah or um which

01:26:17.240 you got apocalypse and all that stuff i

01:26:18.940 think that was i think that was kirby if

01:26:21.060 i'm not mistaken yeah yeah see so he was

01:26:23.620 crossing over into so you you had a lot

01:26:25.860 of that right with uh you know a lot of

01:26:28.120 these writers that were going right for

01:26:29.960 the other other team as well so you can

01:26:31.840 see some of that um it's just called the

01:26:34.340 new god it's like the most generic new

01:26:36.860 gods i love that you can do that with

01:26:38.320 comics

01:26:38.640 deadpool's first appearance was 1991 i

01:26:41.480 think i had that episode at x-force

01:26:42.780 number 14 the new mutants 98

01:26:44.260 but uh uh deadpool is originally

01:26:48.260 depicted as a super villain of the new

01:26:49.860 mutants and x-force yeah cable fought

01:26:51.960 him wow and deadpool was so cheap he

01:26:54.940 had like two batons and all he would

01:26:56.060 do is like hit people with batons and

01:26:57.480 remember when uh let's talk about how

01:26:59.200 stupid they they were for i mean look

01:27:01.280 let's let's be honest the mcu did great

01:27:03.600 things for the superhero genre in the

01:27:05.880 beginning before this i mean look at x-men

01:27:08.360 origins wolverine and they're like what

01:27:10.540 they did with deadpool everybody just

01:27:12.100 like threw up in their mouths a little

01:27:13.120 crazy that was uh insane you get ryan

01:27:15.540 reynolds playing wade wilson and then

01:27:18.640 in the end it's some other guy who has

01:27:20.500 blades coming out of his arms with no

01:27:22.140 mouth and he's like he's a dead pool of

01:27:24.700 powers i'm like no no you can't just

01:27:25.940 take the name and make a totally

01:27:27.620 different character and claim that's

01:27:29.340 the character in the movie that's well

01:27:30.520 i mean that's it's funny that's what

01:27:31.680 the marvel cinematic universe uh

01:27:33.380 started to do right as well and that's

01:27:36.580 i mean again i mean come on miss

01:27:38.200 marvel's powers are to stretch and grow

01:27:40.620 not to project energy they were too

01:27:42.360 chicken crap to give her own powers i

01:27:44.460 wonder why i don't know if they had a

01:27:46.300 lot body positivity maybe it was the

01:27:48.260 muslim thing i don't know if they had

01:27:49.900 anything to do with anything but yeah

01:27:51.900 that was they were too chicken crap to

01:27:53.720 give her her uh which is ironic because

01:27:56.280 they gave her the the bands right which

01:27:58.080 is bangles uh which is more well

01:28:01.580 marvel had bands quasar was another one

01:28:04.020 which he replaced marvel as this sort of

01:28:06.340 cosmic entity entity uh and he had the

01:28:08.680 band so they gave her his his stuff uh

01:28:13.060 just none of these characters are really

01:28:15.380 for the most part recognizable and i think

01:28:17.340 actually that's that's um that's part of

01:28:19.680 the destruction you know what i mean is

01:28:21.540 that look i get it i think hollywood is

01:28:24.860 cocky i think they're arrogant i think

01:28:26.480 they have a little bit of narcissism around

01:28:28.300 them right so to me it makes sense that

01:28:31.740 they do stuff like that because the

01:28:33.560 stories are all wrote for you it's funny

01:28:34.900 you got the infinity gauntlet i was like

01:28:36.780 that's the most obvious thing you just

01:28:38.400 adapted as as as much as you can it was

01:28:40.740 an accident too yeah yeah the story arc the

01:28:43.240 story the story is wrote for you right

01:28:46.400 but i think that these guys are so

01:28:48.800 arrogant that they feel like they have

01:28:50.400 to put yeah maybe they're ideologically

01:28:52.000 possessed as well but they got to put

01:28:53.780 their own spin on it so that's why you

01:28:56.220 get adam warlock acting the way that he

01:28:58.980 does um or x character acting the way

01:29:01.960 that they do and it's so out of character

01:29:04.880 because they feel like well i got to put

01:29:06.920 my own spin on it because i can't just

01:29:08.500 adapt somebody else's work there's a

01:29:10.240 scene in infinity gauntlet number four

01:29:12.120 where spider-man's like wrestling with

01:29:13.940 it's the big green girl i think it's

01:29:15.880 thanos's daughter uh maybe it's uh

01:29:18.780 oh you're talking about um uh oh my god

01:29:22.960 why am i yeah uh she's technically

01:29:25.340 nebulous i think sister oh what is it

01:29:27.600 gamora gamora and and gamora and then

01:29:30.160 they're wrestling and then again another

01:29:31.480 shot you see like spider-man's on the

01:29:32.800 ground and she's above him she's got a

01:29:34.640 rock in her hand and then the next

01:29:36.460 scene she's just see spider-man's body

01:29:38.100 limp and there's all this blood on the

01:29:39.440 rock and like it's like it just happens

01:29:41.020 as an afterthought in the back spider-man

01:29:42.480 dies yeah and it's like when they had a

01:29:44.140 kill wolverine like they fold him he

01:29:45.740 folded him up like he jumps at thanos

01:29:47.700 did they do this in the movie he jumps

01:29:48.780 at thanos shoves it into his chest and

01:29:50.340 then thanos just looks at him and then

01:29:51.760 wolverine's body turns to jelly and he

01:29:53.740 just falls to pieces it's wild dude

01:29:56.300 cyclops goes blasting it's thanos and

01:29:58.700 then a cube is on his head and he falls

01:30:00.260 on his knees and he suffocates to death

01:30:01.700 while he's trying it was brutal man

01:30:03.220 dude thanos was cutthroat bro this is

01:30:05.000 the episode dude tim if you ever want to

01:30:06.360 read it this is the first comic i ever

01:30:07.880 read it's so good man it's so wild

01:30:10.520 come and get me yeah so this is this

01:30:13.720 has got to be worth some money that up

01:30:14.820 so well this has got to be worth some

01:30:16.220 money probably like eight bucks now

01:30:17.320 ebay changed everything so they're not

01:30:18.840 really worth a lot of money well i guys

01:30:20.280 i've got uh you can keep it i'll buy

01:30:22.140 another one i i bought the original uh

01:30:24.480 the the debut of uh vision it's worth

01:30:26.900 like i think it's worth like 500 bucks

01:30:28.280 like these things that if you get those

01:30:29.980 first prints you yeah you can probably

01:30:31.900 make a little if it's in good you know

01:30:33.580 you know what really really bummed me

01:30:35.280 out is how they just totally screwed up

01:30:38.160 the dc extended universe or whatever

01:30:40.220 they were trying to call it the dc

01:30:41.960 cinematic universe was just totally

01:30:43.180 ruined

01:30:43.540 and it's so it's so sad i mean who uh

01:30:47.060 what's his face played the flash what's

01:30:49.180 his name ezra miller ezra that was a

01:30:51.060 that was a terrible cast terrible cast

01:30:52.800 one of the worst ones and i'm just like

01:30:54.520 they all they tried doing was copying

01:30:58.280 yeah and they try to fast track it yep

01:31:00.260 with the mother boxes and i'm like stop

01:31:01.960 you're ruining everything and it could

01:31:03.960 have been awesome and look the it was

01:31:06.020 it was kind of obvious what made the

01:31:08.140 the marvel cinematic university universe

01:31:09.820 work they weren't trying to make a

01:31:11.900 universe it was just at the end of

01:31:14.280 iron man they were promoting thor that's

01:31:16.560 it they were like the next movie's

01:31:18.340 coming out and then eventually they

01:31:19.640 realized you know we actually like all

01:31:21.840 these movies are in the same reality

01:31:23.500 like same universe right it's even

01:31:26.100 obvious i would like thor dark world

01:31:27.880 people didn't like and the aether became

01:31:30.460 the reality stone sure i guess they were

01:31:33.980 trying to figure out a way to bring the

01:31:35.540 reality stone into the like hey why

01:31:37.800 don't we do this big arc and then

01:31:39.240 obviously with thor 3 you have hella

01:31:41.260 push over the infinity gauntlet with the

01:31:43.500 infinity stones in it and she goes fake

01:31:45.060 because it was seen i think in thor 1 or

01:31:47.500 whatever that odin had the infinity

01:31:49.320 gauntlet because they did not have a

01:31:51.100 plan for this yeah they just strung it

01:31:53.080 together and it ended up working out and

01:31:55.020 then dr strange with a time stone dc is

01:31:57.780 like we should do a universe let's start

01:31:59.960 the first movie we do will be the

01:32:02.840 adventures like yeah batman versus superman

01:32:04.980 with wonder woman and the flash in it

01:32:06.320 and i'm like no no no no no make each

01:32:08.580 individual movie then you have them come

01:32:10.980 together have the mother boxes appear

01:32:13.220 you know randomly but then they tried

01:32:15.520 doing um um uh what's his face the villain

01:32:19.220 in in um steppenwolf oh steppenwolf yeah i'm

01:32:22.220 like come on it's not even like a notable

01:32:24.060 villain well and it wasn't steppenwolf

01:32:26.120 either um he's kind of uh that version of

01:32:30.280 him sucked uh right as well so it's not

01:32:32.680 like it was it was they were doing

01:32:34.100 steppenwolf uh any sort of uh justice i it's

01:32:37.760 funny watching that that relationship

01:32:39.540 between uh these characters like uh from

01:32:42.240 apocalypse with when they uh were trying

01:32:44.660 to introduce because i think i could be

01:32:46.780 wrong on that isn't steppenwolf and you

01:32:49.380 somebody can look this up in fact check i

01:32:51.100 think he's technically uh dark side's

01:32:55.540 uncle uh not not in the justice league

01:32:59.520 but in like the in the books uh in the

01:33:03.480 new gods uh books um if someone wants to

01:33:06.340 fact check me uh on that i'm pretty sure

01:33:09.420 that he he might he is the uncle of dark

01:33:11.220 yes he's his uncle so yeah uh yeah so now

01:33:14.360 everything's coming to me because you know

01:33:15.780 you read some of those new gods books and

01:33:17.620 and like he wasn't like cooked to to to

01:33:22.460 dark side like that he like he didn't

01:33:24.640 like him he was he was aggressive with

01:33:26.660 him and everything and you see in the in

01:33:28.560 the movie in the movie he's like this like

01:33:30.880 i don't even know what to kind of explain

01:33:33.820 how that character is someone super

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01:33:37.120 who's that guy uh moon knight oh really

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01:35:07.460 i guess that's all oh yeah i saw somebody

01:35:13.760 post was it flash that posted uh this he

01:35:17.360 said that they were replacing him with a

01:35:18.960 black lesbian but he didn't know if he was

01:35:20.660 actually if it was actually a black lesbian

01:35:22.600 i think i think that's a joke yeah i think

01:35:25.080 what they're saying is that the character did

01:35:26.460 die off or whatever yeah i always thought

01:35:28.640 when they started killing guys and bringing

01:35:30.080 them back it was kind of lame well no that that

01:35:32.020 was uh that was always the death of superman

01:35:34.520 uh yeah that that was always uh trying to

01:35:36.840 sell comics death yeah that that's how back

01:35:39.300 in the gap especially in the 80s and 90s uh that

01:35:41.700 was how you got the big boost is you just

01:35:44.180 killed off a character and it never lasted

01:35:46.140 hell they recently killed off ms marvel i don't

01:35:47.900 know if you knew and then they brought her

01:35:49.200 back obviously like immediately like imagine

01:35:51.140 killing a character yeah multiverse stuff

01:35:54.060 breaks i hate it i hate it is that's why my

01:35:57.020 favorite uh book is funny you talk about

01:35:59.280 cosmic cosmic stuff i just talked about the

01:36:01.880 uh the crisis on infinite earths with dc was

01:36:05.640 was the one time where a publisher said

01:36:07.760 this multiverse shit is stupid and we need

01:36:10.920 to collapse it and we need to streamline it and

01:36:13.300 they went back on it unfortunately well that

01:36:15.680 they had they had house of m and marvel

01:36:17.600 basically yeah but like we got too many

01:36:19.860 characters nobody's idea what's going on

01:36:22.020 okay no one gets any powers anymore yeah so

01:36:24.640 but but then the funny thing is so in house of m

01:36:27.280 everybody all everybody loses their powers

01:36:29.060 what is it scarlet witch yeah she's on no

01:36:30.860 more mutants yeah no more mutants yeah but

01:36:32.520 then they were like yeah but people still

01:36:33.800 want to buy a like they still like the

01:36:35.080 character jubilee so then they just make

01:36:36.640 her like a gun-toting little asian woman

01:36:38.120 or something it's like okay i guess like

01:36:39.900 you didn't want to get rid of the

01:36:40.640 character but they don't have powers

01:36:41.760 anymore yeah and that and that's uh it's

01:36:44.040 stuff like that with the ripper verse

01:36:45.700 that we see those mistakes like that's

01:36:47.580 actually one one of our code of ethics

01:36:48.980 is we don't have a multiverse like that's

01:36:51.380 it's it's written in like hey none of

01:36:53.960 that stuff will ever exist there's only one

01:36:55.940 one universe so uh you know and i i don't

01:36:59.920 want to ever rely on death as a gimmick

01:37:01.940 like that uh that seems like a you're in

01:37:05.240 trouble if you have the only way you can

01:37:06.960 sell a book is like all right let's just

01:37:08.500 kill off the character it'd be cool if

01:37:09.500 there's a villain that's trying to open a

01:37:10.860 portal to the multiverse and they're like

01:37:12.220 if you do it it will destroy everything and

01:37:14.300 so they stop him it's funny we wrote uh in

01:37:17.160 and i saw him too there's a conversation

01:37:19.100 between um spoilers for our listeners out

01:37:23.180 there uh there's a conversation between

01:37:25.100 isom and blood ruth and they talk about

01:37:27.460 this whole ordeal and uh about like

01:37:30.800 different dimensions and all this stuff

01:37:32.720 and and uh isom is like oh so you mean

01:37:36.140 like a multiverse and she's like no that's

01:37:38.940 fictional nonsense like it's wrote in our

01:37:41.620 universe like that's not a thing there's

01:37:43.760 you have uh you have some spell mosey i

01:37:46.520 guess spell backwards and now it's isom but

01:37:48.720 he's i don't know puerto rican you make a

01:37:50.740 villain trying to manipulate dimensions to

01:37:53.300 to to explore the multiverse and instead

01:37:55.620 of any hero having to stop him as soon as

01:37:58.200 he turns the machine on he instantly gets

01:37:59.760 vaporized into dust and then they all say

01:38:02.180 wow his science was absolute perfect 100%

01:38:05.940 correct the whole way there is no

01:38:07.680 multiverse and that's it it can never be

01:38:09.900 rewritten it can never be changed no writer

01:38:11.660 can come in and adjust it and no it just

01:38:14.400 dies instantly but no what happened is is

01:38:17.080 the multiverse cheapened a lot of these

01:38:18.860 characters um and that's what it's been

01:38:20.560 used as that's their justification for

01:38:22.760 making all these different versions of

01:38:24.380 these characters how many earths are

01:38:26.000 there 616 oh and marvel it's a million of

01:38:28.900 them and and and hell even with dc you

01:38:31.040 know it's a it's a bunch of them and oh

01:38:32.820 here's here's this version here's zombie

01:38:34.920 spider-man superman's black and he in

01:38:36.960 this one and he's uh president of the

01:38:38.760 united states and it's like this shit is

01:38:40.980 like to me it's like you're cheapening

01:38:43.780 your brand number one but like how does

01:38:46.700 a customer get invested and i think this

01:38:49.800 is what what did dc and marvel in because

01:38:52.860 imagine like hey you just watched a dc

01:38:56.340 movie and uh you liked uh just i don't

01:38:59.080 know batman whatever and then you say hey

01:39:02.380 new new generation of people hey i want to

01:39:05.000 go learn more about these characters i'm

01:39:06.680 gonna go read some books i uh where do i

01:39:08.460 start and then i have to get i have to

01:39:10.500 basically turn this entire studio here

01:39:12.560 into a whiteboard to try to explain to

01:39:14.840 you well okay you can't start at batman

01:39:17.100 number one because there's like five of

01:39:19.240 those right uh batman number ones and oh

01:39:21.820 well there was the new 52 and they

01:39:23.620 rebooted everything and you have to go

01:39:25.240 through all these explanations oh well

01:39:27.140 that version of batman isn't it's a

01:39:29.240 different batman there's no batman

01:39:31.040 anymore yeah right now basically like

01:39:32.800 especially with the insurance batman it's

01:39:36.020 like what what does batman stand for true

01:39:37.940 did you see the bat the recent batman

01:39:39.920 movie i haven't seen i hated it i haven't

01:39:41.980 seen so uh it's basically uh what's what's

01:39:45.120 the what's the actor's name christian

01:39:47.180 patterson robert patterson he plays

01:39:49.580 batman but it's basically the stupid

01:39:51.640 batman arc and i'm like i don't watch

01:39:53.900 batman to see a bumbling moron i watch

01:39:56.840 batman to see a dude who trained as hard

01:39:58.200 as possible solve problems and succeed and

01:40:00.860 this movie was basically him screwing up

01:40:02.480 half the time and he was really stupid and

01:40:04.600 they even had a moment where gordon's

01:40:05.680 like you're not the best detective are you and

01:40:07.600 i'm like what is this kid batman like

01:40:10.520 come on i don't want to watch it i i love

01:40:12.880 how batman disappears when you're not

01:40:14.120 looking i love how he's able to solve

01:40:16.100 these problems he's so smart he's trained

01:40:18.200 so much i don't like watching a guy who's

01:40:20.460 got money fumble around i thought it was i

01:40:22.520 thought it was bad i haven't seen it let

01:40:23.760 me ask you this because we have like a

01:40:24.980 half an hour left uh are you big into

01:40:26.860 manga or anime uh a little bit um not as

01:40:30.540 i wouldn't call myself a wee by any means

01:40:33.000 um but yeah that's that's what's

01:40:34.700 dominating the market right now yeah why

01:40:36.580 is that like what what happened where in

01:40:38.760 the united states kids were like i prefer

01:40:41.440 what japan is doing over what america i

01:40:43.540 think there's two things i know some

01:40:44.880 people are going to attribute cost and all

01:40:46.620 that other stuff that has nothing to do

01:40:48.100 with it i think that uh it's just far more

01:40:51.280 appealing and it's easier to get into uh

01:40:53.580 because like i said i gotta get i gotta get

01:40:55.340 a chalkboard full of just that i take up

01:40:57.600 this entire three of these studios to

01:40:59.500 explain who these character is hey you

01:41:01.620 just not found out about one piece where

01:41:03.280 do i start number one simple simple yep

01:41:06.620 start start start at number one it's a

01:41:08.500 thousand uh volumes in just start at

01:41:10.780 number one yeah easy that's where you

01:41:12.320 probably it um and so it's easier to get

01:41:15.080 into and also again like they they

01:41:17.660 prioritize and i know this is the easy

01:41:19.620 answer but it's the honest to god truth

01:41:21.320 they prioritize uh entertaining the

01:41:24.420 audience more than they uh so so if i got

01:41:26.900 to choose between gay superman and uh

01:41:30.140 jujitsu kaisen like it's a no-brainer

01:41:32.780 bro like it's it's it's a no-brainer

01:41:34.500 like i'm this is the better so it's it's

01:41:37.160 just far more appealing and it sucks

01:41:38.600 because it's like i could not imagine like

01:41:42.240 jump shooter era marvel in the 80s or

01:41:44.580 something like that and watching a

01:41:45.980 japanese come into your own country and

01:41:48.080 kick your ass and you do nothing about

01:41:50.060 it it's actually worse than that what

01:41:52.120 they tried to do american creators look

01:41:55.140 using that term loosely try to take

01:41:57.420 credit for manga right they say comics are

01:42:00.120 booming and then you start looking at

01:42:01.440 the numbers in depth and you're like

01:42:02.820 wait a minute all those graphic novels

01:42:04.420 that you're considering graphic novels

01:42:06.000 they're manga and they exploded in

01:42:08.560 2019 and 2020 and you read from right to

01:42:11.020 left yeah you read the opposite way like

01:42:13.540 i don't i you know i'm not i always joke

01:42:15.660 about man that's hell the ripper verse

01:42:17.180 i'm trying to make the japanese read

01:42:19.440 the books the correct way if i translate

01:42:21.440 it uh to them because i'm a competitor

01:42:24.040 right but there's no competitive

01:42:25.620 competitive spirit in americans is

01:42:27.900 this has been lost it'd be cool if you

01:42:29.800 could if you came up on a page two

01:42:31.840 pages of a comic and if you read it from

01:42:33.600 left to right it tells the story but if

01:42:35.160 you read it from right to left it tells

01:42:36.360 the story in a kind of an alternate way

01:42:38.200 that would be cool it'd be difficult a

01:42:39.540 palindrome manga comic and it'd be like

01:42:41.220 an easter egg you'd have to find it so

01:42:42.760 have you have you read or watch death

01:42:44.620 note yes yes it's incredible it's an

01:42:47.140 it's it's it's incredible writing to be

01:42:48.680 fair after the death of l it kind of goes

01:42:51.100 but it's still really good and then they

01:42:53.120 did that one shot recently where donald

01:42:55.420 trump's in it it's it's was a netflix

01:42:57.820 did no no no they made it oh they made

01:43:00.060 and oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

01:43:01.620 they did a one shot yeah yeah yeah yeah

01:43:02.820 comic where uh another kid so for those

01:43:05.240 unfamiliar death note is a story about a

01:43:06.700 high school kid who gets a notebook right

01:43:08.060 that is used by shinigami that means

01:43:10.300 death gods grim reapers they use that to

01:43:12.360 kill people and steal their life to add

01:43:14.600 to their own that's the purpose of the

01:43:15.820 death gods so one day a death god who

01:43:18.400 has two because he ripped off another

01:43:19.740 death god wants to have fun so he

01:43:21.660 throws into the human world where a

01:43:23.140 high school kid finds it and decides to

01:43:24.960 become killer that's akita in the same

01:43:27.840 japanese but he's basically the god of

01:43:29.660 death where he go he looks up stories of

01:43:33.180 criminals and then he executes them by

01:43:35.260 writing their name in the book and uh the

01:43:37.600 way it works is if you don't specify a

01:43:39.120 cause of death in the book within i think

01:43:40.740 28 days they die of a heart attack so

01:43:42.700 then he just keeps writing down the name

01:43:43.920 of all these criminals and then one by

01:43:45.680 one all these criminals in jail start

01:43:47.460 dropping dead so the whole the i'll tell

01:43:50.820 you why this is a great story it's not

01:43:52.160 about there there's the power but you

01:43:54.840 have this clever writing where one of my

01:43:57.040 favorite moments is there's this

01:43:59.240 international detective that he only

01:44:01.040 only known as l no one knows his name

01:44:02.740 and they task him the international

01:44:05.200 police whatever like we got to figure

01:44:07.180 out how this guy is killing all these

01:44:08.620 people because they're just we know

01:44:09.800 someone's doing it because the names

01:44:11.400 have to appear in news reports and then

01:44:12.560 they drop dead later so how is it being

01:44:13.940 done so there's this broadcast where

01:44:16.580 this guy appears on tv saying um lynn l

01:44:19.600 taylor i think was the name and he's

01:44:21.080 like i am the detective l i am

01:44:23.240 broadcasting worldwide to let kita know

01:44:25.700 killer know we are going to find you

01:44:27.800 so then yagami light the main character

01:44:30.140 says i will show him that no one can

01:44:32.640 defy me and writes the name of the guy

01:44:34.540 on the tv who then dies instantly on the

01:44:38.140 live broadcast then the camera changes

01:44:40.380 to just the l and then a distorted voice

01:44:42.820 says you're in japan and and specifically

01:44:45.440 in this prefecture i know where you are

01:44:47.020 we didn't broadcast this worldwide we

01:44:49.060 tracked down where the first deaths were

01:44:50.980 and broadcast only in this area that

01:44:53.300 person on tv was not me we're coming

01:44:55.300 for you and it's like that's awesome

01:44:56.860 writing yeah i'm sorry dude i don't get

01:44:58.820 that with gay superman no i'm like wow

01:45:01.040 that was so cool that was so clever

01:45:02.780 that's what i'm saying it's just better

01:45:04.360 all around better inner entertainment

01:45:06.580 that is the that's the core thing that

01:45:09.280 i wish people would understand and if

01:45:11.420 the american creatives had enough

01:45:13.580 humility about them they would just flat

01:45:15.420 out admit that instead they act like

01:45:17.420 the industry's booming even though

01:45:18.800 everybody sees that comic book unit

01:45:20.520 sales are down numbers that would have

01:45:23.460 got people canceled uh got their uh

01:45:25.720 books canceled are like at the top of

01:45:27.860 the charts right now because they are

01:45:29.680 not doing well and you have to be honest

01:45:31.860 if you're gonna fix it let me do i would

01:45:33.400 do one more because i i've recently i

01:45:35.140 just i'm watching dr stone are you

01:45:37.000 familiar with that yo this is magic

01:45:38.560 school bus for japanese kids it is like

01:45:40.920 a children's entertainment anime but it

01:45:43.820 is so good okay and i'm like the story

01:45:48.520 is at some point on for some reason a

01:45:51.020 wave of green light petrifies everyone

01:45:52.320 on earth 2500 years later this high school

01:45:54.860 science prodigy wakes up and then starts

01:45:57.200 to figure out how to rebuild society long

01:45:58.960 story short so it's like anime style

01:46:01.640 magic school bus where he goes if we're

01:46:03.820 gonna rebuild society we need to make

01:46:05.640 glass and then they just explain the

01:46:08.120 basic process of making glass and it's

01:46:10.280 like showing them trying and i'm like

01:46:11.960 there's no grand anything in a dude

01:46:15.460 glassblowing but it's a fun show and

01:46:17.120 i'm like i don't get that from gay

01:46:18.540 superman no they don't even do anything

01:46:20.300 interesting at all well that was one

01:46:22.060 point that chuck brought brought up like

01:46:23.760 because people that know i'm known for

01:46:25.440 robin right uh writing a robin through

01:46:27.520 through the 90s and he's like i remember

01:46:29.360 talking to this long before the river

01:46:30.680 verse even i talked to him about this

01:46:32.180 and he was like yeah when they made tim

01:46:34.260 jake gay did they did they did they

01:46:36.620 make him any more interesting and you're

01:46:37.920 like no no no he's just gay now he's

01:46:40.160 just just now he's just kissing up it's

01:46:41.780 so out of character by the way but now

01:46:43.720 he's just kissing up on dudes right and

01:46:45.780 that's that's that is that is the change

01:46:47.880 and that's not entertainment and that's

01:46:50.160 what i'm saying it's like with the

01:46:51.680 japanese they prioritize over everything

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01:48:21.140 entertainment right it's better entertainment uh

01:48:27.340 considering the american like alternatives if you will and

01:48:31.040 that's why uh they they are winning not just in jip in

01:48:34.500 asia they are winning in north america you go to your uh

01:48:38.620 those bookstores and you see comics versus the mangas and

01:48:42.620 there's just a whole freaking deal of manga and only a

01:48:46.580 little shelf jujitsu kaisen is awesome yes uh like i i don't

01:48:51.320 want to spoil it because some of it is relatively new but uh

01:48:54.560 it's it's a it's a great show it's great comic they're not

01:48:57.400 afraid to have people be killed in conflict i'm like it's good and

01:49:01.200 again i like the world mcu's gone to me they it's just the

01:49:06.300 stupidest garbage ever there's nothing clever about miss marvel

01:49:09.020 that show was awful just total garbage and now you've got um and

01:49:13.940 it sucks with loki it's just multiverse garbled nonsense that

01:49:17.360 there's nothing matters so the first season of loki i'm like oh

01:49:20.580 okay the time authority what's he gonna do and at the end of it

01:49:23.800 they're like everything was changed in your race none of it

01:49:25.680 mattered and i'm like have a nice day i stopped watching

01:49:27.580 how can you look think about what it is you just said and this has been the

01:49:30.800 problem with comics as well like how do you get invested in something

01:49:34.220 like that you can't it's like you're telling me to not be invested in it

01:49:37.680 because you might change some stuff or and nothing matters right that that's

01:49:41.900 that's the problem with the the whole multiversal aspect that i think

01:49:45.360 you know people like the idea of this stuff like oh here's a spider-man but

01:49:50.100 instead of spider-man he does he's he's this he's a transformer spider-man now

01:49:53.780 and it's like yeah okay it's a cool idea but nobody's buying this could you

01:49:58.440 imagine invested in it could you imagine if from the beginning of these

01:50:02.900 iconic characters they never multiversed maybe crossovers are fine like that

01:50:08.520 spider-man lives in the same world with mutants is fine

01:50:10.600 but imagine right now we'd be on episode what like comic book number

01:50:14.880 several thousand remember they used to go really high back in the day now they're

01:50:18.380 you'd be lucky get 20 up 20 issues out of it and reboot it and what they could

01:50:22.400 have done is let's say spider-man starts they never reboot they never

01:50:26.540 multiverse eventually spider-man's 50 years old and

01:50:30.300 then there's a i can no longer do this there needs to

01:50:33.400 be like a passing down of powers or something that connects the story in one

01:50:37.160 go because what you have with like dragon ball for instance

01:50:39.660 dragon ball starts goku's a kid dragon ball z he's a young adult he's got a kid

01:50:43.560 dragon uh the dragon uh gt or super i i guess not gt i don't know it's kind of

01:50:48.820 weird my point is now go at the second arc of z uh gohan's an adult he has his

01:50:54.700 own kid so you're actually seeing the characters develop over time this the

01:50:58.740 continuity does not granted to be fair they made dragon ball gt it did its thing

01:51:03.640 nobody really liked it so they restarted with dragon ball super and it kind of

01:51:07.840 rebooted it in a way but if they kept the story arc going where characters were

01:51:12.180 aging and and and these stories like the characters just passed on or something

01:51:17.260 like that happened you'd have a continuity and you'd be like how do i

01:51:20.120 understand this where do i start it needed to be something like well

01:51:23.800 there's several arcs the the origin arc of magneto starts here

01:51:27.540 however if you're trying if you're trying to get something more modern you don't

01:51:30.900 want to go back to the 50s or whatever you can start with episode you know

01:51:33.340 episode 200 which gives a recap and starts you off things like that

01:51:37.020 instead they just reboot they change it and and here's the problem

01:51:40.320 magneto is an excellent character world war ii uh backstory yeah it's not

01:51:44.500 going to work anymore it's too he'd be way too old what's what's now

01:51:48.520 they're going to be like what what happened he got rejuvenated or

01:51:51.120 something right yeah some of that nature yeah he got de-aged it's like i mean

01:51:56.600 again if you're gonna you you gotta whatever way that you write it i mean you

01:52:00.860 gotta set the rules up and i think that's the problem so even if they're

01:52:03.980 aging slower whatever the idea may be you have to set those rules and

01:52:08.820 establish them and don't treat it like it's an absolute free-for-all

01:52:11.840 and that's what it is that the comics do and i think people don't understand how

01:52:15.940 difficult that is for people to get in on this stuff it's like

01:52:19.640 again if i have i can't you can't start at number one for any batman because

01:52:23.980 well batman rebirth is different from batman in the new 52

01:52:27.760 which is different from the batman before that so it's like uh

01:52:31.600 it where do i start well i gotta try to explain it to you

01:52:35.320 yes some of the fun is getting lost in this stuff and yeah there's going to be

01:52:39.300 little things that the diehards know that the normies do not know i have

01:52:42.980 absolutely any no problem with that the issue is is that for one yeah maybe

01:52:47.620 you're not prioritizing entertainment but also you're not making it easy for

01:52:52.060 people to get in uh on it because they cared so much

01:52:56.500 more about doing all this quote-unquote cool stuff

01:52:58.840 that they have 75 or like the fact that there's that many spider folk doesn't

01:53:03.540 even make sense i hate no i hate it i hate the whole spider verse stuff i hate the

01:53:08.180 whole web of spiders i remember when that stuff got introduced in comics i

01:53:11.040 like this is the dumbest thing ever aunt may spider-man everybody's spy

01:53:14.740 there's literally i didn't even make that thing up about the transform of

01:53:17.360 spider-man that is a literal thing there's a transform and i think of the

01:53:20.440 kids asian that uh that pilots that damn thing so it's like

01:53:25.060 you got this version spider-man it's like you're cheapening the brand man why

01:53:28.700 would i get into this i i've these companies should be ashamed

01:53:32.060 you know i grew up with batman superman spider-man i used to watch spider-man the

01:53:37.420 animated series and x-men and that's that's what i had access to

01:53:40.700 and then once i get a bit older i'm a late teenager

01:53:43.980 i start reading anime and manga well i actually i started reading it when i was

01:53:47.880 like a younger teenager but then i remember when

01:53:50.420 every every wednesday i would wake up and i'd pull up the scanlation for the

01:53:56.000 latest naruto

01:53:56.680 for i it's like 10 years every week i had to read the next issue from shonen

01:54:02.180 jump and and marvel dc they lost me completely

01:54:05.600 i was not interested in waiting for the next comic i didn't care

01:54:08.720 because it's like you said there's no story no i'm there's nothing to follow

01:54:12.020 yeah it's just a random version of batman and this this version likes

01:54:15.780 insurance companies apparently there's nothing to read with with naruto

01:54:19.240 it was like i as a kid i also watched dragon ball and dragon ball z

01:54:22.700 and so when i'm when i'm i watched the episodes of naruto i'm like oh wow i can

01:54:26.720 see the character if like growing changing getting new

01:54:29.820 skills you have this this arc where it's like in the beginning naruto sucks

01:54:33.620 then he gets these abilities then later he's like master disability then you get

01:54:37.520 shippuden a little bit older and and i'm reading and it's like if you if you

01:54:41.540 jump from this episode if manga 100 to 200 you're gonna be like whoa what how did

01:54:46.420 that happen yeah you go to batman and you're like batman's electric now

01:54:50.560 yeah i don't know nothing matters nothing nothing matters and

01:54:54.720 and i think you know definitely for these for the alternatives i think the

01:54:58.620 alternatives should really pay attention to to those mistakes that were made by

01:55:02.140 the major comic book uh publishers because i think again they

01:55:05.340 it's the cheap gain that you may get of entry well oh well look oh that's very

01:55:11.260 cool spider-man's a transformer now but are the people going to actually go buy

01:55:16.040 it the answer is no they're not actually because there's no reason to get

01:55:18.880 invested how did they pull off the transition of x-men from the uncanny x-men

01:55:22.400 into 1991 they released it again it's number one x-men number one they were no

01:55:26.860 longer uncanny but it was jim lee and it was really good the new x-men and

01:55:31.300 they did they committed to it for like i don't know how many hundreds of

01:55:33.720 episodes uh episodes but issues but how did they do it tastefully what did you

01:55:38.560 were you reading it when oh yeah when they flipped yeah no most definitely well

01:55:42.160 back then in general there were a lot of high issues right you used to get to

01:55:46.460 issue 100 200 and all that stuff detective comics thousands like you would get you

01:55:51.180 would get up up in the in the issues and i and i used to love that now they're

01:55:55.640 afraid of that because again they started to rely on on the reboot thing as a

01:55:59.820 gimmick it's like we're never gonna see more sales than what we see with number

01:56:04.100 one so anytime we get a chance to have a number one definitely if it has like a

01:56:08.980 batman or a superman on it we know that that's gonna sell like hotcakes so

01:56:13.400 they relied on that as a gimmick because the story is not what's selling it now

01:56:17.260 they're trying to focus solely on like what's rare and what's uh uh uh like a

01:56:22.160 secondary market and all that sort of sort they care more uh they cared more

01:56:26.200 about that element than they did the actual story so they're not selling you on

01:56:30.760 anything really at all because to your point you pick up a book now and it's

01:56:35.700 going to be an unrecognizable character uh top top to bottom and again you're not

01:56:39.960 going to even have a true actual starting point i guess technically it's

01:56:44.480 like number one was 2016 i think was when that that that uh dc

01:56:48.720 universe or rebirth uh period happened and then everybody got

01:56:52.240 rebooted so you had batman number one superman number one and all that sort of

01:56:56.820 stuff uh you had all that but again it was

01:56:59.200 just it wasn't what four or five excuse me like

01:57:01.840 five years ago prior to that batman had just had a number one

01:57:06.080 so they're not they're not they're rebooting their stuff they're afraid of

01:57:10.220 high issues and again the story is the that's on the back burner man that's what

01:57:14.780 it is right now it's all on the back burner did you get a bunch of the good

01:57:18.060 writers joined your team you were saying what are the writers

01:57:20.320 chuck dixon uh was the he did the first non-isome story for people that don't

01:57:25.100 know who chuck dixon is again he's one of the most prolific writers not just like

01:57:28.980 in comics but like period of all time uh again you guys know him as the creator

01:57:34.220 of bane uh he is the one he's the care he's the man that create alongside my

01:57:38.660 man's graham nolan uh shout out to him as well uh he's doing a lot of cool stuff

01:57:43.380 with his deal on with compass comics so i want to make sure i give him a shout out

01:57:46.900 but uh chuck's part of the team he did a lot of uh again bat a lot of the bat

01:57:52.460 family stuff he did detective comics he did he also did some stuff with marvel with

01:57:55.840 punisher uh as well um another group of writers uh they they are tandem and saska

01:58:02.280 sisters they are uh they did an incredible run uh of black widow called no restraints

01:58:08.860 play which uh we joke about it all the time how they got that how they got that

01:58:12.940 past marvel because it's actually uh nat taking it to pedophiles you can believe

01:58:19.100 marvel they they were already two issues there before they realized oh crap we

01:58:23.380 made this happen now we got to see it through uh they've also done some stuff

01:58:26.820 with marvel in the past uh they even have some unreleased work for dc as well

01:58:30.860 there with us mike baron oh incredible talent he's uh arguably who did the

01:58:36.240 definitive definitive punisher uh mike baron uh you maybe know him as the

01:58:40.380 badger done some stuff with the badgers well but

01:58:42.300 these are talented ogs uh in particular and i knew definitely for my growth as a

01:58:47.380 writer i had to have guys like that that i was surrounding myself with uh with

01:58:51.240 this universe if it's gonna if it's gonna be taken serious and it's i want to

01:58:55.320 say this the fact that those guys were even a free agent like freaking chuck

01:58:59.540 dixon was even a free agent just goes to show how screwed the industry is yeah

01:59:03.200 what you were saying with your contracts are you public about what you do to

01:59:05.580 contracts to bring the writers in and yeah they all get favorable contracts uh

01:59:10.220 for definitely for characters it is that they create um you know that's stuff that

01:59:14.660 they're gonna be able to make money off of for forever um so in if a character

01:59:19.080 maybe ends up in a movie or something like that or action figure for a character

01:59:22.840 that they specifically created they're gonna get they're gonna get a kickback for

01:59:26.980 that every uh uh single time so that that was a big attraction like i i pay

01:59:32.560 these guys very well in terms of their page rates uh top to bottom artists as

01:59:36.940 well as our writers and uh for these guys that are are uh you know being part of the

01:59:42.660 actual creative team they get they get to reap the benefits from the stories it is

01:59:46.700 that they're telling i i had an i have an idea that i want to tell you i just don't

01:59:50.780 know if i want to say it on air because i want your company to launch it first probably

01:59:54.280 i can just tell you in 15 minutes probably should you said shouldn't i'll tell you in

01:59:57.700 15 minutes when we come in the chat we got uh steven drake who makes a really great point

02:00:01.340 he says naruto totally grows with the character naruto started then shippuden had him as a teen

02:00:05.920 with the movies and the manga he gets married to hinata now boruto is his kid with his own series

02:00:11.220 yeah think about this that you might be someone who for the first your first foray into that

02:00:16.600 universe is boruto and you're watching this young kid who's a ninja and they have like powers and

02:00:21.660 stuff and then you can go back and decide to read the earlier arc this is what i was saying about

02:00:26.840 like if we did spider-man this way so you could watch dragon ball z you get a quick recap introduction

02:00:32.980 to the characters but it starts off its own story with these characters at this point and then you

02:00:36.860 can always go back and watch dragon ball if you want to learn about the past and and these things

02:00:40.420 come up but it's one massive arc for decades yeah for decades and there's nothing wrong with that

02:00:45.220 like there's nothing like and manga shows that people will play the long game right like again we

02:00:50.340 talk one pieces yo how many volumes so uh dragon ball z the reason why it had a hard time coming

02:00:57.780 to the united states is because cartoon network and a bunch of these other networks believed no kid

02:01:03.840 would want to watch a ridiculously long story arc that they couldn't that it was too difficult to

02:01:09.080 understand and so they wanted to make shows that were one-off episodes yeah they they thought

02:01:14.820 continuity didn't matter spider-man comes in does his thing the story's over everything resets in the

02:01:19.500 next episode and then finally someone was they did someone decided to bring in dragon ball z and it

02:01:23.960 instantly became one of the most popular shows among kids of all time of all time yeah with the crazy

02:01:28.460 thing about uh like goku i went to japan they have billboards with goku on it they've got like

02:01:35.820 statues of goku and loop on the third and uh these prominent anime characters because they're like

02:01:42.460 celebrities they're these iconic characters they have the u.s just like look we're talking about 20

02:01:49.000 episodes of batman then restart we've got 18 different number ones and no one has any idea

02:01:52.540 nobody because again they don't understand and i hate that they insult uh the audience especially

02:01:58.160 of youngsters like that right they think that they wouldn't want to keep up with a uh like long-term

02:02:03.520 sort of uh storytelling and again we have an example i would be thrilled if i was a youngster if i

02:02:08.660 let's say that i just discovered batman right uh and i'm like oh wait a minute i can you know

02:02:14.180 and maybe you get him on a ladder arc or whatever it is that he's he's doing something different

02:02:19.940 and then you're like oh wait a minute there's there's books that have been wrote for decades

02:02:24.700 i'm about to get lost in this like i'd be stoked i'm like oh well i i just not found out about him

02:02:30.080 and there's mountains and mountains of source material that i get to get lost in i'm like i'm like

02:02:34.380 it doesn't matter whether i'm you're a youngster or an adult you get stoked about that sort of stuff

02:02:38.880 like you know you can imagine getting into luffy uh uh late and you're like oh well i got a thousand

02:02:43.900 uh freaking uh uh volumes that i get to read and i get to collect like that's what that's part of

02:02:49.140 the fun and for whatever reason modern creatives especially at the corporate level think that

02:02:53.540 people don't want that and it's just simply not true the problem i think you're gonna run into is

02:02:57.260 you know you need to putting you need to be putting out a book every week yeah yeah like we're

02:03:01.520 speeding up for sure our um that was one of the first things that we wanted to attack going into uh 2024

02:03:07.760 uh uh is having yeah we release bigger books but we want to make sure that we're speeding up our

02:03:13.160 our release calendar so it looks like it's about like i sum number one is about the size of three

02:03:17.920 conventional comics or maybe four four yeah about four so do you do one a month is that the goal uh

02:03:23.560 well uh the goal right now it's it's a little longer than that because you think about it like

02:03:28.740 four issues that's going to be like four months worth of uh uh worth of material so we for example with

02:03:35.880 isom 2 that dropped that this has been the quickest release so isom 2 came out like three months ago

02:03:41.420 right and now we're already fulfilling uh alpha core so ideally perfect world once we really have

02:03:49.460 our footing i love to release a book a month what's the challenges you have between now and then

02:03:55.400 uh a lot of it's uh infrastructural like we had them we you know because we we do our own

02:04:00.920 distribution right that was a big thing about what it is that we created i didn't want to

02:04:04.240 replicate the model of the big the big guys and using someone else as a distributor and we go

02:04:09.480 directly to customers so a lot of it's like logistical stuff so making sure that you know

02:04:14.640 a warehouse is big enough to to get this this material uh in and all that and we're we're now

02:04:20.180 we're sort of we're basically there which is why uh right after this campaign ends that's active right

02:04:25.560 now alpha core number one uh technically ends in january on january 20th that's when the uh the the

02:04:31.260 pre-order window technically is closed uh right after that i like to next month that that following

02:04:37.220 month go right into yaira do people subscribe to isom and then they just get mailed a copy every

02:04:41.920 month and they get charged every month we've been releasing it in like a campaign format um uh with

02:04:47.380 isom one isom two and alpha core yaira will be the next one as well so we we dump a bunch of like

02:04:52.760 merchandise items with it as well that people can get and you can kind of just pick up we have bundles as

02:04:57.280 well that'll make it cheaper uh so people can pick up whatever it is they want and even if the

02:05:01.900 campaign closes we always are selling a version of that book so yeah isom one happened last year

02:05:07.480 but you can still go to reverse.com and get isom one you can even get alpha core is a perfect we got

02:05:12.820 like a 65 bundle that you can get isom one you can get isom two and you can get alpha core for

02:05:17.880 only 65 dollars it's like over 300 pages right of material so i would love to move to a subscription

02:05:22.900 yeah that's because if i could have done that in the 90s i would have signed up

02:05:25.400 three bucks a month and you don't have to worry about an issue every week or whatever three bucks

02:05:29.160 a week and it's i would say yaira one uh once that gets released after that i think we're going to be

02:05:34.760 moving away from the campaign format and doing a more pre-order format to where we can add like a

02:05:40.700 subscription element uh to it i would love that way people don't have to think about it it's like i

02:05:44.480 just want everything river verse all right cool and you sign up you get the money up front to pay for

02:05:48.780 infrastructure to get the mixture of the stuff's out in six months bingo so uh but yeah ideally

02:05:53.100 like we're not going to be there i don't i'm not going to say we're going to be there in 2024

02:05:56.980 but perfect world i want to work to where a rip a verse book it's not going to be the same title

02:06:02.820 but a rip a verse book at least one is is released every month are you hiring right now are you

02:06:08.740 expanding the company yeah so uh we just technically got fully staffed for um uh for our warehouse and

02:06:16.240 that's the fun thing about it we're offering different types of jobs right we have yeah the back

02:06:20.180 office stuff and every and the creative stuff but you also got a physical presence because we do our

02:06:24.220 own stuff with our books so uh you we keep everybody up to date if you do go to reverse.com

02:06:28.720 you can see kind of the jobs and stuff it is that we're offering we're we're still catching up to our

02:06:33.940 demand and we're always growing um there's a lot of opportunity a lot of people that work for me now

02:06:39.420 we're part of the community a lot of these guys got brought up it brought over that were part-time

02:06:44.560 guys in the full-time guys even from the creative standpoint we recently brought on i talked about

02:06:50.060 the sasca sisters they started off as just regular contractors now they're uh on on the team as

02:06:55.300 lore masters as all as well as still doing the writing canaan white's another one big shout out

02:07:00.200 to him incredible uh uh artist he's done uh some covers for us uh uh he did our short box we released

02:07:06.680 this cool little uh comic book short box that he did the artwork for he's now here full-time so

02:07:11.580 that i'd argue is to me the most fulfilling part of the ripperverse is that i get to give people good

02:07:19.500 paying jobs fair jobs um and we continue to grow which means more job opportunities for the people

02:07:25.740 that are out there do you people apply like on the web do you have like riververse.com yeah

02:07:29.180 riververse.com if we ever have any jobs that are available uh like we recently had with our with our

02:07:35.000 warehouse they'll be able to submit their their resumes and everything directly online just go again go to

02:07:40.240 riververse.com and you'll see the jobs tab and all that and we're right there do you guys sell to

02:07:44.740 comic shops are comic shops still up and going we do oh man a lot of them been closing down but our

02:07:50.060 our customers is direct to is the customer like uh we do sell some we do have actual retailers portal so

02:07:57.260 if there does happen to be people that are coming shop owners that do want to get in on a retail rate

02:08:02.360 they can go to riververse.com retailers and they can get in on that that is available uh for them and

02:08:08.920 they can get some great rates look if you want to make money on comics you sell ripperverse stuff

02:08:13.960 those those are for sure going to go off of your shelves but that is available uh to them but i'd

02:08:19.040 argue well over 90 percent of our customer is the the actual reader um which benefits us we cut out a

02:08:25.380 lot of middlemen there how much is it uh so that one right there now is only 20 so uh uh it was released

02:08:31.700 at 35 now it's 20 uh our page rates have got more competitive with us printing more uh nowadays that

02:08:39.100 is a that is about as good of a book you're going to get the the paper is above industry standard uh the

02:08:44.680 it's my zone as well so it's uh we we we we we print quality that's what it is that we we do we don't go

02:08:51.840 the traditional uh just regular uh approach with r so that's 20 uh the book right now uh is also the

02:08:59.640 same page count is uh only 28 so we're working on getting even more competitive uh now uh with our

02:09:06.500 with our books as we continue to print them so we want to make sure we give you something that's

02:09:10.660 going to last uh as well and we're again we're getting even more uh competitive with our with

02:09:15.640 our actual rate it smells really good oh yeah there's something about fresh paper oh yeah oh yeah

02:09:20.200 you can't beat it's printed right here in uh in america as well uh and yeah it's uh again those are

02:09:26.200 printed above the industry standard um as far as the actual paper paper stock uh that is and again

02:09:33.080 it's my song it's not just traditional what's that what's my song so you'll if you you probably

02:09:38.200 will be able to tell but if you open it really well you'll notice that it's kind of sewn uh as far

02:09:43.480 as just glued as opposed to just glued that uh makes it kind of open will read very very well

02:09:49.680 and keeps it uh keeps it bound together oh without ripping the binding yeah that's one of my

02:09:53.880 my original finny gauntlets just the cover came off because i read it so many times yeah yeah so

02:09:58.100 that one's gonna last man it's gonna be be really good for you movie oh uh it's funny i i believe it

02:10:05.720 was uh the guys over angel studios were in this seat and they were talking about they were talking about

02:10:09.540 us on y'all's on one of y'all's show look we we got ripper verse studios um i'm taking that very

02:10:16.060 seriously uh i there's two other wings of the ripper verse that i would love for it to be

02:10:21.960 very profitable for us that's obviously river verse studios and i want to enter into the toy

02:10:26.260 market at some point uh as well but we we started off with our animation stuff that was a big that

02:10:31.840 was uh we did these kind of shorts uh we have some more stuff it is that we're working on river

02:10:36.140 studios as well if you guys want to go go check that that longer form animations about two and a

02:10:40.800 half minutes you can go do that over at riververse.com but i would love to enter into the live action

02:10:45.660 i did a video not too long ago talking about video games perfect world again we'll keep talking

02:10:53.360 about what's ideal i would love to do that because i'm a gamer you guys know that um it's expensive

02:10:59.700 card game rpg would be pretty sweet now i would love to do that like 16 bit man 8 bit something like

02:11:05.680 that be bad card game probably the easiest tabletop i think uh i think some tabletop and we've been

02:11:11.100 reached out by some people that really are into that sort of stuff i didn't know the market was as big

02:11:15.500 as it was really until i started the riververse of like tabletop gaming uh hell that's how some of

02:11:21.980 these comic shops are able to thrive because they're starting to sell like a lot of the tabletop

02:11:26.840 stuff so i've been doing some research there uh if there if there's a demand for that i'd be down

02:11:32.260 you could have a game just where like it's a bunch of squares like in rooms that appear as you go you

02:11:36.300 like flip over a card and that's the next room and you have like six characters choose from six of the

02:11:39.640 heroes and each of them have different abilities one's got like long range attack one's got close up

02:11:43.480 and then a bunch of the villains or just cheap villains like dude and green like monster with

02:11:47.700 claws and they just go through blast shit like it doesn't have to be yeah uber complex and then it'll

02:11:51.980 be in the rip reverse universe like they'll just all the whole game can be in like a building yeah

02:11:56.060 yeah yeah yeah i would love to to do all of that like this is something that i'm taking very seriously

02:12:01.260 this is why our uh you know our release schedule sped up the way that it is you know we're hustling

02:12:05.840 because i don't want people to think that hey you know we came out ice on one it was a 3.7 million

02:12:10.880 dollar campaign and it was just i'm just gonna sit back kind of kick back and i'm done here no no no

02:12:15.120 i got i got to work immediately and i want to take stuff like that serious i would love to enter into

02:12:19.860 gaming i would love to enter into uh like uh movies and all that stuff we take it step by step we don't

02:12:26.520 bite off more than we can chew but you know i i want to be that competitive it'd be like each character

02:12:31.940 has like three attacks and each of the attacks are on a cooldown so like you could do your long range

02:12:35.780 attack which goes six squares the one is the second attack is a cone attack in front of him like an arc

02:12:40.000 and then his third ability would be like to jump back three spaces and if you use one it goes on

02:12:43.900 like you got to wait three turns before you can use that ability again yeah and every character

02:12:47.400 would have three different variable abilities that'd be super easy to make yeah easy i think table like

02:12:53.220 more research about that i got humbled by the toy market recently man understanding like how

02:12:58.680 the margins are very thin on those but i do believe that like with that sort of gaming um i i believe that

02:13:05.960 there's just just the market's wide open for it and people are thirsty for it man that's what this

02:13:10.260 ultimately boils down to as we talk about culture um is that look people are tired of giving money to

02:13:15.820 people that hate them right uh so the fact that there's companies like ours that exist where people

02:13:21.140 understand exactly where it is that i am on various issues um but we're here to create we're here to

02:13:26.880 entertain first and foremost and at least you know you're not giving your money to a dickhead and also

02:13:31.060 people don't like giving their money to regurgitated crap they want fresh stuff yes new stuff yeah and

02:13:35.700 that's what it is that we're doing like we're we're trying to come up with unique concepts that's

02:13:39.660 actually where we start with a lot of our characters that it is that we're we're creating

02:13:43.800 stuff unorthodox this is why hell the first where it's not just because i'm from texas

02:13:47.660 that the first city that we're entertaining is florist park texas just because well that's not really a

02:13:52.840 place where i don't know how the hell new york city has all this damn crime considering like every

02:13:57.520 superhero in the marvel universe is it is there but yeah you know that's the type of stuff that

02:14:02.480 it is that we're entertaining we're trying to do things that are new uh and refreshing so it's it's

02:14:07.260 a perfect time to get in perfect time to get in ladies and gentlemen uh we are about to go to have

02:14:11.880 our our tim cast christmas party so it's gonna be a lot of fun a lot of people are gonna come hang

02:14:15.780 out but i appreciate all of you guys hanging out the uh we're we're memeing the song the best song

02:14:21.580 ever so a bunch of people are tweeting about how they grew up listening to smoky mike and the god king and

02:14:26.860 there's one really good tweet where they're like does tim have no shame taking a timeless classic

02:14:31.080 and mucking it up like what are we trying to conserve as conservatives it's really good

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02:14:50.440 eric do you want to shout anything uh shout anything out yes uh you know i'm at eric d july

02:14:55.000 everywhere but right now our active campaign is uh at ripperverse.com is alpha core number one it's

02:15:02.460 already at 1.1 million i believe uh it's it is the number is closing in on 1.2 great universe to get

02:15:10.360 lost in uh for you guys that are looking for an alternative in the comic book spot and again i

02:15:15.260 appreciate y'all having me back here man so fun this is always fun yeah we're gonna make and cat mickey

02:15:19.660 that's that's i love it um and i'm ian crossland tim this is my gift this is it man merry christmas

02:15:25.040 brother you're giving me the infinity gauntlet all six of the original infinity gauntlet so good

02:15:29.080 he's gonna go right here next to my mom yeah and i got more it's just a beautiful that's the way

02:15:33.700 comics should be it's like all the heroes it's it's really really it was like a culmination moment

02:15:38.060 of the heroes of the marvel universe coming together and just suffering to win it was it was

02:15:43.420 really great thanks for having me tim and eric great to see you again man and also kellen's been

02:15:47.220 here the whole time he's been pressing the buttons what's happening yeah i am i don't have a camera

02:15:51.600 but this was an awesome one i was like grinning ear to ear the whole time so uh it was great to meet

02:15:56.120 you uh i did get isom one and while the show was going on just purchased isom two and alpha core

02:16:00.900 can't wait to read them but yeah great show guys thank you let's win this culture war ladies

02:16:05.600 and gentlemen thanks for hanging out and we will see you all tonight at 8 p.m. over at youtube.com

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The Culture War - Tim Pool - December 15, 2023

The Culture War #42 - Fighting Woke Comics, Movies, And Music, Rise Of The Rippaverse w⧸Eric July

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