In this episode, we discuss the origins of the culture war, the role of AI in creating cancel culture, and the impact of the Me Too movement on the culture. We have a special guest, Dr. Colonel Kurtz, a former professor at the University of North Carolina, joins us on the show to talk about his experiences in the post-modernist era and how he escaped the clutches of the "postmodernist" culture. We also have a new book coming out in April, Tales from the Inverted World, by author of "Tales from the Upside Down" by Shane Cashman, and a new profile on two former professors who escaped the confines of the ivory tower and became internet influencers. You won't want to miss this one. BetMGM and GameSense remind you to play responsibly. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, please contact Connects Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. To find a list of our sponsors and show-related promo codes, go to gimlet.media/OurAdvertisers/Sponsors. We'll be giving out $10 off your first month when you enter the discount code: "Advertiser" when you sign up for VIP access to our VIP membership. Thanks for listening to the show! and Happy Holidays! BetmGM & GameSense - Don't Tell a Friend about Gaming! - I'm BethemGMG - I'll Tell Me a Friend, Bet Meals, I'm Working On It's 19+ to Wager Ontario - Bet Me A Lottery - $5, $10, $20,000, $25,000 and $50,000 off a Month, I'll See You'll Get a VIP Experience at The Ritz-Auction, $50 Offers That Includes VIP Access To VIP & $75,00 Offers? Bet MeGM & Gambling - $10 Offers From Bet Me GMG & $25 Offer, $5 Offing Meals On A Ride, $15,000 Offer That I'll Get VIP Access to VIP? - $25 Or $50 Or $75 Offers Are You A Friend Or $5 Or $55,000 Or $45,000? Can't Say It? I'll Text Me A Friend or $50 or $60 Off?
00:04:31.860And, but I did pay for a $20 doctorate through the universal life mysteries, uh, ministries, uh, and I'm also a reverend and I'm ordained to do weddings.
00:04:40.700And I used to tell my students as I was quitting the college world, go get a $20 professor degree from this website and just water down the market.
00:05:21.160But, uh, my point was not that I was literally lying in that I had a degree, but I showed them these websites where you can buy any degree in anything you want.
00:05:29.120But they're just not quote unquote accredited.
00:05:31.500And so you have a lot of people trying to get a degree because it means that somewhere someone has approved of you.
00:05:49.720And that's where we currently are today.
00:05:50.720You could buy, you could buy, uh, I don't even call them fake PhDs, right?
00:05:54.800Because the, the, I don't, I wonder if these websites still exist.
00:05:57.940Because the real ones are fake themselves.
00:05:59.900They are like, this is the, this is the important thing people need to understand about universities in today's day and age, especially with the internet, where this credentialist world is just doesn't mean anything anymore.
00:06:10.620If, if you come to me and you say, I have a degree in, you know, English or whatever, like you have a, you have a doctorate, like what does that mean to me?
00:06:18.960You mean practically speaking, like occupationally?
00:06:22.020Well, I mean, I think that, so I have some degree of ambivalence about coming on here and saying, oh, you know, PhD is worthless.
00:06:30.480Grad school is worthless because I, I was able to spend a lot of time reading a lot of great literature and philosophy.
00:06:37.900And, and I had a lot of time to think about a lot of deeper stuff.
00:06:42.180However, as you know, the problem is that there's a lot of political indoctrination now that's coming along with that, particularly in certain fields, uh, more oriented toward liberal arts and social sciences.
00:06:53.720And also it's, it's a huge expenditure of time and money, whether we're talking about the student's money or the government's money, right?
00:07:02.720And so I think that, I think that now with internet, you really can get as good or better of an education, uh, that you, than you would get in school.
00:07:15.040I felt that way as a student, I did get a lot of good stuff that was shown to me to read.
00:07:19.960You know, that's how I fell in love with Flannery O'Connor or, or James Joyce and stuff, but I was also in a silo.
00:07:24.260And I feel like now all these years later, I'm doing way more reading, uh, on my own.
00:08:25.160And I remember after doing my research on it, cause the internet was available to me since I was a little kid.
00:08:30.560I just, I remember going to my dad and being like, how about instead of spending all this money on college and, you know, taking out loans and stuff, you give me a couple of grand and I buy a guitar and an amp.
00:08:39.140And I just start dedicating myself to building a music business.
00:08:41.500And he was like, no, he's like, you got to go to college.
00:08:44.320And my mom was like, you got to go to college.
00:08:46.360And my view was like, there's, there's nothing I can learn there that I don't have access to on the internet.
00:08:51.880And I guess for me being 18 and my parents being in their, you know, mid to late thirties, their worldview was built upon college will give you opportunity.
00:09:03.080I know more than my friends who are in high school and going into college.
00:09:06.380So I don't see the benefit of, of taking on debt and doing this.
00:09:09.620I, I'm more interested in starting a business.
00:09:11.840I think at this point, that's, that's where, you know, I'm, I'm growing up and I'm seeing there's, there's literally no point to go to, to go to college at all.
00:09:19.980And so to make my point as you know, try and stop ranting, uh, right now you go to a college, what do you get?
00:09:27.280There is a guy who tells you what for, well, I go on the internet.
00:09:30.160I got millions of people who can tell me what for I can, I can look up a professor.
00:10:05.500Um, but I used to, uh, if you haven't seen Sam Hyde's Ted talk, you should, uh, the idea of college in his pure sense, I still wish could exist of like different kids from different areas, showing up, sharing ideas.
00:10:18.340I do miss the idea of being a professor in a classroom, teaching, whether it was journalism or fiction, uh, poetry and just sharing ideas with the idea of making art.
00:10:28.480But then the further I got into it, I don't know if you had the same experience is like every semester out of that 10 years, the, uh, the cultural war would peak into the classroom every like, I didn't get worse and worse and worse.
00:10:40.400So here's, here's, here's what I think the, the concept of what a university is, is dead.
00:10:47.900Now the argument made to me as to the importance of the university is to bring young and curious minds together to expose them to better ideas where you said, uh, you know, Kristen, you're saying you got to read these books on philosophy.
00:10:59.900I did all that and I was in, I was in the bag room at an airport underground reading a book on physics, near-death experiences, philosophy.
00:11:07.800I didn't have to go to university for it.
00:11:09.480I would just go online later and look at more reading materials, uh, talk to people in chat rooms.
00:11:13.920And so I think there are people who desperately want to hold on, hold on to that idea.
00:11:17.240But as the usefulness of university begins to collapse with the rise of the internet, the customer is always right.
00:11:22.980And so when social media platforms like predominantly Facebook started algorithmically promoting wokeness, we go, we go back to the beginning of Facebook.
00:11:34.920What happens is as Facebook got to the point of, of universal usage, I shouldn't say universal, but when it got to the saturation where the average person had more than 300 friends and page likes, Facebook could no longer send them reverse chronological content.
00:11:53.280So it used to be that if you followed your friend, whatever they posted would appear on your newsfeed and you, and then it would go, you know, reverse chronological after 300 people, it becomes impossible to see everything it moves too quickly.
00:12:04.660So Facebook said, we have to keep things stable on the page for a certain amount of time.
00:12:12.100So if someone posts something nonsensical, people are going to get bored with that and they're going to, they're going to turn off Facebook.
00:12:17.060So they started, they, they, they, they create this algorithm that will show only what people like the most and what ends up happening.
00:12:25.500How do you determine what someone likes?
00:12:46.340So Facebook starts promoting the most hate-filled, rage-filled content, which results in two parent trees, American and racial nationalism.
00:12:55.340I don't, I shouldn't, I shouldn't, I shouldn't lump those together, but you had a very like more conservative, we love America.
00:13:00.820Then you also add, I shouldn't, I actually, I should separate those.
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00:15:24.160They bring all of that into the university.
00:15:27.180And then when you get these professors, this famous incident where Professor Nicholas Christakis was talking about Halloween costumes.
00:15:33.820And he said, you know, you should be able to wear whatever costume.
00:15:36.840Cultural appropriation isn't that big a deal.
00:15:38.400Well, students surrounded him, screaming at him, saying that universities are supposed to be safe places where they're comfortable.
00:15:43.560The university's response is the customer is always right.
00:15:47.100We don't care about creating a place where people can learn.
00:15:49.640We care about making money from a customer.
00:15:51.800And the customer wants a daycare center for 18-year-olds.
00:15:55.720And that's what we're going to give them.
00:15:57.300So I would agree with that to a certain extent, except that I think that there are a lot of students who, maybe not woke students at Harvard or Yale,
00:16:08.400but there are a lot of students in a lot of universities who are politically, they are not extremely leftist or they're not woke.
00:16:15.620And they are actually having these views more or less imposed on them or they're being indoctrinated by some of their professors.
00:16:24.360And so I liken it to a kind of a children of the corn scenario where you have, you know, at some point, you know, you had a lot of these professors.
00:16:33.120Like when I was going through undergrad and grad school, you had a number of professors actually who were introducing students to these more leftist or more woke perspectives.
00:16:41.280But I don't think that a lot of them realized that young people were going to take it, we're going to take it seriously.
00:16:47.920You know, it was almost like, like, I remember taking a course when we talked about gender, it was a gender, gender and literature course.
00:16:54.800And basically we were more or less indoctrinated in the idea that there's no such thing as a woman, you know, that gender is an artificial construct.
00:17:02.020And this was, I think the professors kind of just felt like, oh, you know, we're just kind of like, we're just kind of fucking around here.
00:17:08.960You know, we're just playing with ideas.
00:17:10.340Nobody's really going to like really take this seriously.
00:17:13.260And what happened is a number of young people did take it seriously.
00:17:17.200And then they graduated, they went into the workforce or they themselves went into academia or they went into Google or wherever.
00:17:24.100And then they start and they start initiating these really woke policies and woke perspectives.
00:17:31.620I think it's, I think that's backwards.
00:18:35.200And I mean like the literal alt-right, like people who are white nationalists.
00:18:37.980And I'm not talking about people who are calling for violence or murder.
00:18:40.760I'm saying these are people who would make channels saying that this country is a country for white Christians and we should secure our borders.
00:19:57.100So this ends up creating a monetary system of cancel culture rule sets on Twitter where they claim we have to have special rules protecting trans people because of suicide rates.
00:21:08.060And when those people were pardoned, many of them were pardoned by left leaning politicians like Susan Rosenberg was pardoned by Bill Clinton on his last day in office.
00:21:16.140Look at who Cuomo pardoned his last day in office.
00:21:22.520And I think they infiltrated these institutions to then spread this hate, this hateful message, this violent message to destroy.
00:21:31.840America as a whole, you know, and then what did Susan Rosenberg do after a while?
00:21:36.660She started the Thousand Currents platform, which then helped funnel the money for Black Lives Matter, ActBlue money, which then I see Black Lives Matter as like the new evolved version, violent version of what the weather underground was.
00:21:49.180And so that but but that's just one front line in this whole, you know, decay of society that we're in.
00:21:55.820If and so I agree, absolutely, those things were happening.
00:21:59.040And I think postmodernist Marxist ideas were, you know, having a huge impact on universities.
00:22:04.260But if Facebook banned Marxism, we would not have had the culture war, right?
00:22:10.880You know, so where where where's the alt right today?
00:22:14.480I mean, you know, a lot of these personalities had large platforms.
00:22:18.020And again, let's separate what the media claims to find it.
00:22:27.360I'm talking about a nonviolent guy who made a channel where he just talks about white rights or something, which certainly, you know, the corporate press will be like, that's the same thing.
00:22:36.300Like, dude, a white dude in his house being like, I don't like affirmative action is very different from a guy with a tiki torch.
00:22:43.760If you were a guy who had a channel and you said, I am concerned about mass migration, banned.
00:22:49.620If you were like, I'm concerned about liberal policies and how they're destroying the family.
00:22:53.820Basically, these were all in line with these people who believed the United States should be a white Christian nation banned.
00:23:00.860If they did not ban that, but they banned the Marxist professors, we would be having a culture war with white nationalists.
00:23:07.460I think a lot of the Marxist stuff, even though there was pockets of real violence from those weather underground people and in pockets of insanity between them, you know, in protests, whatnot over the years, it was mostly isolated to colleges and whatever small protests are doing.
00:23:21.100But then Facebook and whatever algorithm you're on accelerated that.
00:23:57.440They would be told this is good and right.
00:23:59.240More importantly, young creators who want to make social media channels are thinking to themselves, if I want to get a million views, I better praise the family.
00:24:09.360Hey, if you oppose family values, you're going to get banned.
00:24:11.540And then when Ann Coulter or Milo comes to speak at university, the police are going to be like, we can't let these people in.
00:24:18.140They're going to smash things and destroy things.
00:24:20.100Instead, what ends up happening is out of like you have this trend in society to make things more towards social justice because we don't like racism.
00:24:28.000That's that's historically where we were going.
00:24:29.880Ben Shapiro shows up to DePaul University and the police say, if you step foot on this property, we'll arrest you.
00:24:33.980But here's the here's the thing for me, though.
00:24:51.100And for me, I do trace it back to you mentioned Weather Underground.
00:24:54.140What happened in academia, academia used to be a fairly conservative institution.
00:24:58.440You know, think about the professors with their pipes and the, you know, the tweed coats and so forth.
00:25:02.760But what happened was the Vietnam War and you had the Cultural Revolution of the 60s.
00:25:07.700And so there was a dramatic change in hiring preferences in academia and people.
00:25:13.820And there was this awareness of, OK, we need to shift with the culture.
00:25:17.180And so you had massive change in preferences for fields of study dissertations.
00:25:24.100You know, a hiring committee is going to say which dissertation is more politically interesting or useful or what have you.
00:25:30.000And so then what happens is you get into an academia, you get into a feedback loop where then those professors, the new professors that you hire, the liberal ones, then they hire people like themselves.
00:25:42.500And so I think what we've gotten to, at least with academia, is you've gotten to a situation where these patterns now, these cycles have been occurring now for years and years and years.
00:25:51.340And so you just have more and more people of a leftist perspective being hired.
00:25:56.880And so the question for me is, why is it, say, at Facebook, who decides that one perspective over another is not tolerable for advertisers?
00:26:07.360I mean, do the advertisers really care or is it that you have a lot of leftist people at Facebook or at these companies, for instance, who say we don't tolerate this other perspective?
00:26:15.640Why is it that when Elon Musk buys X, we see this dramatic shift in what is?
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00:29:00.220What causes the advertisers to be scared of a more right-wing perspective but not a left one?
00:29:05.120And I guess that's what I'm trying to get to is I think that there are a lot of people who came through the academic system who then got jobs at these companies and they're intolerant of certain perspectives.
00:29:13.480However, I think more it's that if you â do you ever hear the story about, you know, how we ended up with the Civil Rights Act, Civil Rights Legislation in this country?
00:29:24.040Lyndon Johnson asked his workers to drive his dog back home because he was, you know, he's a president or whatever.
00:41:32.460I remember being a kid in the late 80s, early 90s.
00:41:36.460And there was a comedy, a sitcom that my family watched.
00:41:39.460And I remember that there was going to be a storyline in a particular episode about a guy in college having sex with his girlfriend.
00:41:47.460And you weren't going to see anything.
00:41:48.460It was just going to be a conversation.
00:41:50.460But there was a like a PSA or a warning, basically a kind of a trigger warning ahead of this telling parents, you might not want your children watching this because there was going to be a reference to premarital sex.
00:42:03.460It was like some out like Michael J. Fox family ties thing or whatever, but like we've come and I don't think that was good, but I'm just saying we've come so far from that.
00:42:11.460You know, it's fascinating to me is the show.
00:42:14.460You know what show I absolutely despise is married with children.
00:42:21.460Well, the band, not the only episode of married with children.
00:42:24.460I actually liked was when Al Bundy was being I can't remember exactly what happened, but I think he's being he's being harassed by some guy who's suing him and he's doing everything right.
00:42:37.460Finally, he punches the guy in the face and the next scene is him and Peggy happy together, which is rare for that show fanning money where he says, I can't believe that worked.
00:42:47.460I sued the guy for breaking my fist on his face, something like that.
00:42:51.460And I'm like this whole show was they hate themselves.
00:43:19.460The first nine seasons, I can quote almost every episode, you know, me, Seamus Coughlin and Richie Jackson will be quoting the Simpsons and they're better at it than I am.
00:43:28.460But think about the nature of the show.
00:43:30.460It's not the worst family in the world, but Homer strangles his son and his son's, you know, a deviant.
00:43:36.460And this is not the first, but it really is a shift towards dysfunctional family, painful marriage sucks or, you know, Homer and March love each other for sure.
00:43:47.460But you start getting into a lot more shows.
00:43:49.460And to be fair, like Married with Children was around the same time.
00:44:08.460We started propping up characters who are like, like, you know, Homer's a weird character in that he's been to outer space, but he's a really, he's kind of a bad guy.
00:44:20.460I've been thinking about this a lot lately because I've been rereading the Odyssey written by Homer thinking about the Simpsons and the Simpsons in a way as degenerate as we might think it is into many degrees.
00:44:30.460It's kind of like the Odyssey when, especially when you talk about him being kind of a bad guy and or going to space on these great, ridiculous trips because it's the Odyssey is also about family and falling apart and temptation and work and all that stuff.
00:44:43.460And then, and then real quick with Bundy, I also think about the same stuff because they named him kind of after Ted Bundy.
00:44:49.460Is that what they, I don't know what that's for a fact, but like, I can't not think about Ted Bundy when watching this American family fall apart with the same name.
00:44:56.460You know, Simpsons, they were brilliant in the writers and their comedy, the jokes they came up with, and I lament the loss of it.
00:45:04.760But much like the Daily Show with Jon Stewart, Jon Stewart is far from perfect, not the smartest guy in the world, but he's a smart and he's a funny guy.
00:45:14.760And so a lot of conservatives really don't like him because he was very dismissive of conservative arguments.
00:45:18.760He was a liberal guy, but he's legit funny.
00:45:21.760I mean, so his show's back, he's ragging on Joe Biden.
00:45:34.760When they tried to recreate Jon Stewart, they created the scumbaggery of John Oliver.
00:45:39.760They created the, the really low brow Jordan Klepper, Samantha Bee, just like some of the worst of the worst in terms of political ignorance, pulling clips out of context.
00:45:53.760And so while the Simpsons certainly is masterfully done, the things that come after it are shows where the family is trash, where having a family is bad, where the father's a moron.
00:46:03.760And look, I love the Simpsons, but Homer is a bad father, a bad character, and everyone loves it.
00:46:32.760People take, you know, they believe that the underlying premise is always true.
00:46:35.760So when the Simpsons mocks the nuclear power plant with a three eyed fish, of course, there's no three eyed fish, but the underlying premise is nuclear power is killing you.
00:46:43.760And think about how many people said like younger people around our age during maybe pre Trump said they got their news from the daily show.
00:46:50.760A show that's built upon a deceptively edited reality.
00:46:53.760It's an interesting argument in a debate in general, the effects of art and whether we're talking about, you know, high art or popular culture or what have you, because on the one hand, you know, and this I will to the death, I'll defend artistic freedom.
00:47:08.760And I don't like censorship of any kind at the end.
00:47:11.760And at the same time, though, I get exasperated with people who say, well, it's just a TV show.
00:47:19.760It's like, no, you can't have it both ways.
00:47:21.760If you're going to tell me that art is powerful and art is important, then you have to also understand that it also has negative effects as well.
00:47:28.760And again, I'm not for censorship, you know, obviously, but I think and I think these things are cyclical, you know, in the 80s, there was a real return to more, quote unquote, traditional values, conservatism.
00:47:38.760People were tired of all of the skyrocketing, skyrocketing divorce rate of the 70s.
00:47:44.760And, you know, you had Reaganism and all of that in the 80s.
00:47:47.760And so I wonder, too, if what we saw with like The Simpsons and so forth was a kind of then like cycle back then to critiquing the family.
00:47:54.760But real quick, you are for censorship.
00:50:43.760So I I grew up in East Texas in a hyper conservative environment.
00:50:49.760I'm talking about my family, my church and all of that.
00:50:51.760And there was there's certainly a lot of good that came from that.
00:50:54.760But I I really felt like in a lot of ways it was a very problematically repressive environment.
00:51:02.760And so I find myself getting getting concerned when I see from the right this real drive toward censorship or what I would say is a kind of like hyper focus on what should be personal private morality.
00:51:19.760And so I think that's one thing that sort of gives me pause.
00:51:22.760Do I like the idea of like a kid drag show?
00:51:25.760But I've just seen the other side of things where, you know, I the way that I grew up, the way that I was raised, I didn't like that either in a lot of ways.
00:51:32.760And so I get really concerned when I when it seems like we're going from one side to the other.
00:51:37.760Yes, there's so much censorship coming from the left in certain ways politically on, you know, on social media and so forth before Elon took over.
00:51:47.760But on the other hand, I didn't really like, you know, like Marilyn Manson and people like that had a point like what was going.
00:51:52.760I felt like there were a lot of things that were going on in more conservative society calling out the hypocrisy of a lot of people in the conservative world or on the left, because people forget Tipper Gore was on the left.
00:52:03.760Right. She sounds like a conservative because it was around the time that conservative media dominated.
00:52:06.760She and Bob Dole were kind of an odd pairing.
00:52:08.760But this is the interesting thing, too.
00:52:10.760Like when I mentioned the magic, the gathering card and the saintism, it was Democrats.
00:52:13.760Yeah, it wasn't it was it wasn't overwhelmingly just Republicans on the right.
00:52:18.760But so I'm curious. I definitely will not start an abortion debate.
00:52:22.760But I told myself I wasn't going to let's open it up.
00:52:25.760But you but you mentioned you're to the left of us on abortion.
00:52:27.760So my question is, what what is it? What do you mean by that?
00:52:30.760I believe that women should have basically unfettered access to abortion at any point.
00:52:40.760Definitely up until well, like we talk about when we talk about the fetus to me, what's important is what degree of conversation.
00:52:47.760What degree of cognition is going on? What degree of pain awareness is going on?
00:52:51.760I don't believe that just because something is going to be a human eventually that that means that its interests or rights supersede that of a much more cognitively developed, full grown woman.
00:53:03.760Now, I understand that that's not a view that most conservatives agree with.
00:53:07.760But but I believe that I'm comfortable with the first two trimesters, because up to that point, I don't think that we're talking about anything that's more advanced than the animals we kill to put meat on our plate.
00:53:18.760So why would you assume you're to the left of either of us?
00:53:21.760No, I said left. I meant right. Sorry.
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00:56:20.760In the U.S., it's mostly like to the point of birth.
00:56:23.760But my position is typically of a libertarian governmental limitations position, meaning I think abortion is wrong.
00:56:30.760However, when you start looking at the nuances of how you'd handle abortion in the instance of a woman who was raped and her constitutional rights are being violated.
00:56:37.760My, simply put, the government can't mandate someone provide their body to another person.
00:56:41.760I think if a woman chooses to have sex and gets pregnant, she has a moral responsibility for the thing that she chose to do.
00:56:46.760If a woman is, without her consent, forcibly impregnated, the government cannot mandate she give her body to that other person.
00:56:52.760And the argument, I've had this argument a million times with pro-lifers, so I'm not going to, I don't want to start an argument.
00:56:57.760My point is simply like, it's unfortunate, but constitutional limitations would, I believe, result in at least up to 12 to 16 weeks.
00:57:06.760Women have right, have access to abortion without the government's intervention.
00:57:09.760Which, you know, I think is a bad thing morally, but I don't know that we want to empower a government to mandate a person give their body and blood to another person.
00:57:17.760But I don't want to bring up the abortion thing again, which we're getting into.
00:57:20.760My question was simply the perception of.
00:57:23.760Yeah, I guess because there are a number of people that I know you're aligned with, generally speaking, who are very pro-life.
00:57:30.760And so I just assumed, yeah, I assumed that you were, that you were anti-abortion, that you thought it should be illegal.
00:57:36.760So for me, again, it comes down to a very sort of non-religious, sort of cold-eyed view that we should be considering things, again, like cognition, sentience, pain perception.
00:57:50.760And I don't understand if we live in a world where we can slaughter animals for our food who have much more cognition and pain sensitivity and are more advanced than fetuses, particularly up to a certain point, then it doesn't, it just doesn't make sense to me.
00:58:02.760I assume I'm probably to the left of you on the issue, substantially, much further to the left than you.
00:58:08.760Yeah, because my position is typically that I will sit back with my feet up and my hands behind my head as I watch the left abort and sterilize their children and excise themselves from the gene pool.
00:58:17.760Well, you bring up, you bring up, I know you're joking.
00:58:24.760I mean, there is an argument, and this drives some people crazy, but there's an argument to be made that, and it sounds eugenicist or whatever, but there's an argument to be made that most of the time, those fetuses that are getting aborted would not have been positive contributors to society.
00:58:38.760I'm not talking about a leftist perspective.
00:58:39.760I'm just talking about if we look at, generally speaking, you know, the people who are having abortions, and in terms of, you know, poverty, in terms of people who are not responsible enough, you know, to manage their lives, what kinds of children in general are they going to have?
00:59:09.760We don't, I don't think it is moral to grab a group of people and be like, because statistically, you are more likely to be bad people, we're going to excise all of you.
00:59:30.760Well, but what is the poverty at times indicative of?
00:59:33.760It's indicative of people who cannot manage their lives.
00:59:35.760And so I'm saying that probably, generally speaking, statistically, people who are born in those situations, they're generally going to have worse outcomes.
00:59:42.760But again, I'm not saying we should execute poor people.
00:59:48.760Well, so look, look, I'm half kidding, but we can get away from the abortion debate and segue into the future here because my argument typically is, no matter any way you cut it, the future is conservative.
01:00:05.760And the reason is Islam is, let's just call it more aggressive worldwide than the other Abrahamic religions.
01:00:14.760They have substantially more children and they're much more, when I say aggressive, they're very strict in their moral laws and their religion.
01:00:28.760So if we just do the math on this one, if conservatives are only having one kid on average and liberals are having zero in 20 years, there's no liberals.
01:00:37.760And now people say to me, yes, but they're indoctrinating kids in schools.
01:00:40.760And I'm like, and you're, you're watching a culture war over that.
01:00:43.760If the reality was the left just outright had indoctrination and we are all completely powerless to it.
01:05:04.760Well, I'm going to get into that argument.
01:05:06.760So I have defended him against, it was a, it was a bogus political hit job against Cuomo.
01:05:11.760But it's interesting how many people that I've talked to who are Cuomo supporters and they'll say, well, yes, Cuomo was a hit job, but Trump, he's really guilty.
01:05:18.760And I'm like, no, it's the same thing.
01:11:30.760And so, the most viewed boosted in the algorithm.
01:11:32.760Elsa, Spider-Man, and the Joker are popular prominent terms on YouTube because of prominent characters.
01:11:37.760It created an amalgam where you'd have a massively pregnant Elsa in stirrups where Spider-Man's the doctor
01:11:44.760and she's giving birth to the Joker or some weird psychotic nonsense.
01:11:48.760That ultimately turned into AI-generated versions of this and it got real dark.
01:11:53.760Eventually, you had gore videos, murder.
01:11:57.760You had little kids drinking urine out of urinals because it was just getting crazier and crazier.
01:12:05.760The algorithm was feeding itself videos because babies couldn't select for this stuff.
01:12:10.760And it ended up with adults trying to exploit the algorithm and then intentionally creating content.
01:12:16.760There were videos that had 15 million views of a guy injecting his young daughter with something in a syringe because the algorithm would promote it.
01:12:24.760YouTube eventually intervened after the controversy bubbled up and started shutting all these videos down.
01:12:30.760But when you create an algorithm and tell it to run wild, it eats its own refuse.
01:12:38.760Jack Dorsey created a machine that exacerbated woke ideologies.
01:12:43.760It gave a vehicle for it to run wild and he himself was sitting in the pipelines.
01:12:49.760So when these ideas are becoming more and more powerful and prominent, that ideological refuse was funneling right into his throat and then into his brain.
01:12:58.760And then he was putting it back into the code and the rule sets.
01:13:02.760What we are seeing now with Google Gemini is the ultimate so far amalgamation of these people have been basically living in the sewers of ideology where the stupidest, most insane contradictory ideas are being shoveled down their throat.
01:13:19.760My favorite example, Wimmickson and women with and women.
01:13:52.760So there was, it's, it's this weird contradictory state.
01:13:55.760My favorite now is that Lucrid, one of my favorites, Lucrid Kowski of We Are Change is a blonde haired, blue-eyed European and a person of color.
01:14:04.760The Coalition for Communities of Color have determined that Slavic people, because they're oppressed peoples, are people of color, despite the fact they are white, blonde haired, blue-eyed individuals.
01:15:07.760If the AI were to actually look at the United States and try to make a determination about what it is humans want and want to be and what does it want to do, the future I envision is everyone's dressed like corn on the cob.
01:15:18.760You go into the corn movie where you watch a video of just corn bouncing on the screen because the AI is going to feedback loop what it thinks you want.
01:15:25.760And if humans invest so much in corn, the AI doesn't know the difference between corn for food, fuel, and for entertainment and culture.
01:15:31.760And so, one by one, the algorithm will start feeding you.
01:15:37.760My idea was it'll feed you nonsensical things until the culture consumes the refuse of AI and then turns into what the refuse has been portrayed.
01:25:10.760Well, I think someone with like with a long standing painful degenerative disease or terminal illness, I think they should have access to it.
01:25:19.760That's different than what's going on.
01:25:20.760Yes. No, I don't think a depressed 17 year old like made in Canada.
01:25:23.760There's people signing up who have headaches.
01:25:25.760There's no distinction by what you just described.
01:25:31.760So you're saying basically that we are being through through through the through the technology, the algorithms that we are being basically sort of herded into these pathological behaviors that are not in our interest at all.
01:25:47.760Well, the Methusian said, well, wait, I'll pause.
01:25:51.760Alex Jones said several last year when I'm on the show, he said the elites set bear traps all around you and they tell you that they're there.
01:26:03.760It might sound crazy to some, but there are people like like Obama when he was in office who hire people like Paul Ehrlich, you know, and these people write entire books on why we need to make the population lower.
01:26:14.760How we're going to do it by law, you know, if they had their if they had their chance.
01:26:51.760And in one of the games, it might be the first one.
01:26:55.760There is an individual who becomes grotesquely mutated and becomes this ultra powerful, ultra intelligent being who decides I'm going that the world's been wiped out by nuclear war.
01:27:05.760And you as the vault dweller who's emerged seeing this world this way in the end, there's a choice where it says we can fight or.
01:27:14.760We you can live your life exactly as you want, but we'll sterilize you because you will not be a part of our future and you can choose that route, self sterilization, and then you can live happy and do whatever you want.
01:27:26.760So I wonder in this idea, what we're seeing now, the population bomb, the Malthusians, they believe there's too many people.
01:47:09.760And so this creates the pressure I was talking about before where the reason, like the emergence of gender roles is extremely obvious.
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01:55:05.760I mean, there's people who would still defend Amber Heard.
01:55:07.760But no, if you look at the evidence, it is very clear that this is a hoax.
01:55:12.760And, you know, Evan Rachel Wood, she forged, she and Ilma Gore, they forged an FBI letter.
01:55:18.760They faked an FBI letter and put the name of an agent, a real agent on this in order to try to, well, this is a whole other story, but Evan Rachel Wood was withholding her child from Jamie Bell, the father of her child.
01:55:32.760And she kidnapped the kid and went to Tennessee against Jamie Bell's wishes and ended up losing custody because of this.
01:55:40.760But she devised this fake FBI letter to try to explain to Jamie Bell and the court why she needed to run away with the kid because she was afraid for her life, you know, in LA.
01:55:50.760I would say Evan Rachel Wood is still looked at as a darling, though, in the media.
01:56:36.760And the media are not interested, as you know, Tim, they're not interested in the counter-narrative.
01:56:41.760And so there are a lot of people, for example, who are not aware of the fact that Manson's ex-wife, Dita Von Teese, and his ex-fiance, Rose McGowan, have both come out publicly and said, this man is not an abuser.
01:56:54.760And so there's actually a great counter-narrative in Manson's favor, but the media, they're just not interested in promoting that.
01:57:27.760And if you don't, you'll get struggle sessioned into oblivion.
01:57:30.760Me Too is a form of a struggle session.
01:57:32.760So when I say it's a tendril, it's like, that's just one way to destroy modern society or the West in particular.
01:57:38.760Me Too became that struggle session or like, you know, they would have, they would have, Mao would have dissenters, their heads chopped off in the town.
01:57:47.760Square wall, making children watch as they sang the national anthem.
01:57:50.760So we haven't really gotten to that point yet.
01:57:52.760But these struggle sessions, these Me Too sessions that happen online where you're kind of digitally stoned are that.
01:58:59.760The media is really good at creating caricatures.
01:59:02.760And once they can convince you that this person is the caricature they said it is, then they can convince you of anything that that person's done.
01:59:18.760Because they're both kind of become, I hate to say they're victims, but they're victims of the media apparatus that's turned them into caricatures.
01:59:33.760But they just came out with a documentary once again, trying to promote the idea that not only that Johnny Depp was guilty, but also that Johnny Depp's followers know that he hit Amber and don't care because she deserved it.
01:59:56.760They need to cram it down your throat, which is why the Manson thing is so interesting to me because you were talking about accountability earlier.
02:00:01.760There's been no accountability for everything you've just described with Evan Mitchell Wood.
02:00:30.760And I think and let me just say, I think also that that is why it's so difficult for so many men, celebrity men who are caught in the crossfires, the crosshairs of this.
02:00:40.760It's so difficult for them to defend themselves because they do have some shady stuff in their background.
02:00:45.760I don't mean shady like abuse, but I just mean, you know, rock stars, movie stars, what have you.
02:00:49.760And to me, it really reminds me of the crucible.
02:00:51.760You know, if you read the crucible, the hero of the crucible, John Proctor, he waits until it's too late to challenge the court.
02:00:58.760He waits until it's too late to act because he knows that he has an extramarital affair in his background and he lives in a Puritan society and he doesn't want that exposed.
02:01:05.760And I think that someone like Marilyn Manson, for instance, I know that he's fighting back in the courts, but it is very difficult for him to fight back publicly.
02:01:14.760Because he does, he has had that rock star lifestyle and I know he's got shady stuff in his past, again, not abuse or whatever.
02:01:21.760But I think that these men are almost, no pun intended, kind of neutered in a way in that they can't fully fight back.
02:01:27.760Me, because, because you have to be like pure as the driven snow these days to make it true.
02:01:40.760Like you've done Depp and Cuomo and Manson.
02:01:43.760Do you see it, Me Too stuff, kind of the hysteria dying down now, even though they're still trying to go after Depp after, you know, all that stuff?
02:01:50.760I feel like, I feel like there are two worlds right now.
02:01:53.760There's the world of normal people and then there's the media heavily politicized world.
02:01:58.760I think that normal people are hip to this bullshit now.
02:02:01.760And I think that more and more people understand that believe women, believe all women is a very problematic ideology and believe in the presumption of innocence and are sick of Me Too.
02:02:11.760The problem is though, and it's like you were talking about with advertisers, someone like Marilyn Manson, for instance, the position he's in or others is that these corporations, these record labels, whatever we're talking about, they're scared to death of any hint of scandal when it comes to anything like assault or rape or abuse.
02:02:29.760And so there's a lag, I think what's going on is there's a lag, there's a lag going on between the normal people who I think have caught on and the media and the corporate world and these institutions that have still not changed.
02:02:44.760The other thing when I think about the Marxist seed of Me Too is that a lot of the people, and it's not all of them, but a lot of the people we're talking about now are dissenters.
02:02:52.760And dissent is like the highest form of sin to a Marxist, right?
02:03:01.760Like speaking out against their institution, you know?
02:03:03.760But it doesn't have to be all saying the same thing against it, but they've all kind of proven that they can't be controlled because Cuomo wasn't the progressive left that New York wanted.
02:08:49.760And so the abuse label is now being used as a as an umbrella.
02:08:52.760I think that connects to what Tim is saying to evil people.
02:08:55.760Yeah, I think of I love C.S. Lewis and the screw tape letters.
02:08:58.760It's about demons talking about how you infiltrate the brain of someone to get them away from God.
02:09:02.760And like a friend or someone you thought was a friend, you fall apart for whatever reason.
02:09:08.760And then that mob that was on the periphery of that friendship starts whispering in the ears.
02:09:12.760Like, you know, just like you're saying with the relationship, oh, it's just this and that.
02:09:15.760And then that creates the evil urges and the jealousy that bubbles up.
02:09:18.760Have you guys ever seen the viral video where a man and a woman are walking down the street in a crowded area and the woman is punching the guy and screaming at him and calling him stupid and a moron.
02:09:26.760And the reactions of the people are laughter.
02:09:29.760Then they walked on the same street later and the guy is shoving them and not hitting her as hard and screaming at her and a bunch of dudes run up and shove him start yelling at him.
02:09:36.760This is part of the evolutionary psychology of if women die, society fails.
02:09:41.760It creates a circumstance in which female abusers are given a free pass under the assumption you must protect women.
02:10:20.760And I think and also I think that if you have never been through this, if you've never been falsely accused or if you've never been close to someone who who is.
02:10:27.760I think a lot of people, it's just they think, well, that where there's smoke, there's fire.
02:10:31.760So like in Marilyn Manson's case, the fact that he had multiple women accusing him, it's just creates this sort of like fog of like, well, you know, maybe she did do this with the FBI letter or she lied about this or whatever.
02:10:51.760I get letters, emails, messages from people all the time.
02:10:54.760Normal people who are now experiencing this in their corporate jobs who are getting me to out of their jobs or who are, you know, what have you.
02:11:02.760And so it's not I think bringing this home, we need to try to bring this home to people and let them understand that it's not just some celebrity that you might not care about.
02:11:11.760But actually, this stuff filters down into the culture.
02:11:13.760Me, too, is also it's become the golden ticket for apolitical people who want to take someone out because they're jealous.
02:11:20.760You know, like I know someone who's a successful person in an industry.
02:11:24.760And when the BLM riots were happening, she didn't post a black box fast.
02:12:01.760You know, I mean, I got to be honest, like if I had a business that also t-shirts during like all this period and someone was like, why don't you post your black box or whatever?