The Culture War - Tim Pool - The Culture War #52 The End Of Academia, How College Got Woke & Died w⧸Kristen Lacefield

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00:00:57.060 I have this debate quite a bit about where the culture war actually started.

00:01:02.920 And a lot of people say it started in universities.

00:01:05.160 I think the concepts and ideas that eventually became post-modernist,

00:01:11.660 the post-modernist political faction certainly existed in universities to a great degree,

00:01:16.660 perhaps more so than many other ideologies.

00:01:18.320 But I believe that, as I've often argued, social media algorithms were what launched this into orbit,

00:01:26.540 creating the political conflict we see today.

00:01:28.760 And the simple version of it is that it's rooted in what is safe for advertisers,

00:01:34.120 what is socially acceptable, ultimately creating this massive wave almost overnight of cancel culture.

00:01:39.900 And we may be recovering from it to a certain degree now with Shane Gillis hosting SNL,

00:01:46.260 with more and more comedians feeling comfortable saying very offensive things.

00:01:50.660 We've started to realize exactly what this is and become more resilient to it.

00:01:54.080 And maybe, maybe that'll change.

00:01:55.720 Or maybe, I don't know, with the way universities are cranking out new humans ready to join the workforce,

00:02:01.740 it may actually create these ideas.

00:02:05.040 But I'll just give you the real quick version before we jump into the, you know,

00:02:07.720 and all the other meat and potatoes here.

00:02:11.320 Universities were bringing in young people influenced by social media.

00:02:15.920 And the customer is always right.

00:02:17.720 So when the professors tried pushing back, they got fired.

00:02:20.300 They lost their jobs.

00:02:21.140 They were put at risk.

00:02:21.960 So they all started falling in line.

00:02:23.480 So I really do think social media algorithms were the big player in this.

00:02:26.500 But I could be wrong.

00:02:27.680 So we're going to start off.

00:02:28.960 We have a lot of things to talk about.

00:02:30.040 We're going to start off talking about what was going on in universities,

00:02:32.780 getting what going broke.

00:02:33.900 And then I really want to go through just like a general overhaul of like what we've seen in the culture war,

00:02:38.740 you know, which, which is a very much includes cancel culture, the Me Too movement.

00:02:42.140 And now where we're currently at with AI and this Gemini stuff.

00:02:45.060 So we've got a couple of people hanging out.

00:02:47.740 Colonel Kurtz, do you want to introduce yourself first?

00:02:50.320 Yes.

00:02:51.340 So my name is Kristen Lacefield, but I go by Colonel Kurtz, my YouTube channel.

00:02:56.360 Apocalypse Now is my, is my favorite movie.

00:02:58.480 And I was a professor for many years, a full-time lecturer at some different schools.

00:03:05.860 I did my PhD at the University of North Carolina and taught for a number of years and finally just had enough,

00:03:15.240 got out and decided that YouTube and social media were a better place to,

00:03:21.480 to educate people than the universities now.

00:03:24.800 See, and that plays into a lot of what my, my idea is about what's creating the culture war is that everyone thinks it's universities,

00:03:31.600 but I do kind of feel like in terms of social and cultural influence,

00:03:34.320 universities are substantially less impactful than people realize, but we'll, we'll get into all this stuff.

00:03:38.900 We'll get it.

00:03:39.160 We got Shane Cashman hanging out.

00:03:40.360 What up?

00:03:40.900 Writer for Scanner, author of Tales from the Inverted World.

00:03:44.020 I got another book coming out in April about a lot of my profiles from the last year.

00:03:48.460 And, uh, cool to be here with Colonel Kurtz, two former professors who escaped the circle of hell.

00:03:54.340 Uh, and your name, the username always reminds me of the horror.

00:03:58.240 Yes.

00:03:58.740 The horror, which is everything we talk about.

00:04:00.720 Um, but I know there are many liberals who may end up watching this show.

00:04:04.860 So for their sake, we'll just refer to you as Dr. Colonel Kurtz, because credentialism is very important.

00:04:11.180 That's right.

00:04:11.740 To these individuals.

00:04:12.540 They want to know that someone has sort of, an authority has declared you to be an expert on English, I believe, correct?

00:04:20.700 That's right.

00:04:21.020 On that, on that note too, for those watching, uh, I, yeah, well, I don't have a doctorate, but I do.

00:04:25.600 Wait, you have two English PhDs?

00:04:26.920 Wow.

00:04:27.280 Two English professors here.

00:04:28.500 No, I have a shame.

00:04:29.460 She could though.

00:04:30.180 I have a master's, which is useless.

00:04:31.860 And, but I did pay for a $20 doctorate through the universal life mysteries, uh, ministries, uh, and I'm also a reverend and I'm ordained to do weddings.

00:04:40.700 And I used to tell my students as I was quitting the college world, go get a $20 professor degree from this website and just water down the market.

00:04:47.500 Cause it's useless.

00:04:49.220 Yeah.

00:04:49.560 There was a, I remember like 15 years ago, uh, maybe long as like 20 years ago.

00:04:54.520 Oh man, this is like 20 years ago.

00:04:55.940 I can't believe how old I am.

00:04:57.180 And, uh, I'm talking to my friends and they're all going to go to college or whatever.

00:05:00.440 And then I was just like, at some point I was like, oh, I actually already have my bachelor's and they'd be like, you do.

00:05:06.560 And I'm like 19 or whatever.

00:05:07.700 And I was like, yeah.

00:05:08.640 And, and they're like, in what?

00:05:09.620 And I was like, uh, nuclear, nuclear physics.

00:05:12.200 And they, and they would just be like, what? 0.99

00:05:13.980 Shut up. 0.99

00:05:14.200 No, you don't have to be like, ask me anything. 0.99

00:05:15.840 And then they would be like, I don't, I don't even know what to ask you.

00:05:18.360 And then I could just make things up.

00:05:20.240 Right.

00:05:20.340 Cause they didn't know.

00:05:21.160 But, uh, my point was not that I was literally lying in that I had a degree, but I showed them these websites where you can buy any degree in anything you want.

00:05:29.120 But they're just not quote unquote accredited.

00:05:31.500 And so you have a lot of people trying to get a degree because it means that somewhere someone has approved of you.

00:05:37.220 No, no.

00:05:37.460 I get it.

00:05:37.820 If you want to be a doctor, you're not going to buy a fake degree.

00:05:39.960 If you want to be a lawyer, you got to pass the bar.

00:05:41.440 But for like, I don't know, literally anything else, music management, I'm like, I'll give you a degree in that.

00:05:47.760 It's worth the same thing.

00:05:48.840 Yep.

00:05:49.540 Yeah.

00:05:49.720 And that's where we currently are today.

00:05:50.720 You could buy, you could buy, uh, I don't even call them fake PhDs, right?

00:05:54.800 Because the, the, I don't, I wonder if these websites still exist.

00:05:57.940 Because the real ones are fake themselves.

00:05:59.900 They are like, this is the, this is the important thing people need to understand about universities in today's day and age, especially with the internet, where this credentialist world is just doesn't mean anything anymore.

00:06:10.620 If, if you come to me and you say, I have a degree in, you know, English or whatever, like you have a, you have a doctorate, like what does that mean to me?

00:06:17.140 Like, what can I do with that?

00:06:18.960 You mean practically speaking, like occupationally?

00:06:22.020 Well, I mean, I think that, so I have some degree of ambivalence about coming on here and saying, oh, you know, PhD is worthless.

00:06:30.480 Grad school is worthless because I, I was able to spend a lot of time reading a lot of great literature and philosophy.

00:06:37.900 And, and I had a lot of time to think about a lot of deeper stuff.

00:06:42.180 However, as you know, the problem is that there's a lot of political indoctrination now that's coming along with that, particularly in certain fields, uh, more oriented toward liberal arts and social sciences.

00:06:53.720 And also it's, it's a huge expenditure of time and money, whether we're talking about the student's money or the government's money, right?

00:07:01.800 The taxpayer's money.

00:07:02.720 And so I think that, I think that now with internet, you really can get as good or better of an education, uh, that you, than you would get in school.

00:07:15.040 I felt that way as a student, I did get a lot of good stuff that was shown to me to read.

00:07:19.960 You know, that's how I fell in love with Flannery O'Connor or, or James Joyce and stuff, but I was also in a silo.

00:07:24.260 And I feel like now all these years later, I'm doing way more reading, uh, on my own.

00:07:29.280 I was, uh, joining it like that.

00:07:30.760 Yes.

00:07:31.140 I was having this debate with Dr. Peter Boghossian.

00:07:33.780 I love, I love making sure I give everybody, give everyone their honorifics and their titles.

00:07:37.620 Um, but no, but he, he's a really smart guy.

00:07:39.320 He's a really great guy.

00:07:40.320 He's a, he's a good dude.

00:07:41.660 And, um, and it, it's not just him, but there were many other people that are just so intent on defending the idea of the university.

00:07:49.960 And I am so 100% opposed my, my ethos, my ideology is antithetical to these professors who are currently trying to save the system.

00:08:01.360 Cause I think it is archaic and it's broken, especially with the internet.

00:08:05.360 And I think indoctrination with, uh, the rise of wokeness and postmodernism is, uh, because of the death of this archaic institution.

00:08:14.260 So I hear this argument when I'm talking about, you know, I'm 18 and everyone's telling me it's time to go to college.

00:08:22.320 And I was like, okay, this is the thing to do.

00:08:24.360 Right.

00:08:25.160 And I remember after doing my research on it, cause the internet was available to me since I was a little kid.

00:08:30.560 I just, I remember going to my dad and being like, how about instead of spending all this money on college and, you know, taking out loans and stuff, you give me a couple of grand and I buy a guitar and an amp.

00:08:39.140 And I just start dedicating myself to building a music business.

00:08:41.500 And he was like, no, he's like, you got to go to college.

00:08:44.320 And my mom was like, you got to go to college.

00:08:46.360 And my view was like, there's, there's nothing I can learn there that I don't have access to on the internet.

00:08:51.880 And I guess for me being 18 and my parents being in their, you know, mid to late thirties, their worldview was built upon college will give you opportunity.

00:09:01.220 And my worldview was built upon.

00:09:03.080 I know more than my friends who are in high school and going into college.

00:09:06.380 So I don't see the benefit of, of taking on debt and doing this.

00:09:09.620 I, I'm more interested in starting a business.

00:09:11.840 I think at this point, that's, that's where, you know, I'm, I'm growing up and I'm seeing there's, there's literally no point to go to, to go to college at all.

00:09:19.980 And so to make my point as you know, try and stop ranting, uh, right now you go to a college, what do you get?

00:09:27.280 There is a guy who tells you what for, well, I go on the internet.

00:09:30.160 I got millions of people who can tell me what for I can, I can look up a professor.

00:09:34.080 I can watch lectures for free.

00:09:35.260 I used to go on Google videos before, uh, YouTube, uh, was, well, I mean, YouTube was dominant, but Google videos had their own thing.

00:09:41.300 I would watch physics lectures.

00:09:42.820 I would, I would, I would come home from like working on me, like at the smoothie joint, Jamba juice.

00:09:47.900 And then I would turn on a lecture on physics and I'd watch a free lecture.

00:09:51.560 I don't spend any money on it.

00:09:52.980 Yep.

00:09:53.360 I do the same.

00:09:53.880 I still am taking courses for free at Hillsdale.

00:09:56.560 You know, they have like free lectures on YouTube and it's amazing on constitution or Ted talks, you know, uh, Ted talks used to be good.

00:10:03.460 Now they're kind of bad.

00:10:04.180 Yeah.

00:10:04.320 Unless they're Sam Hyde.

00:10:05.500 Um, but I used to, uh, if you haven't seen Sam Hyde's Ted talk, you should, uh, the idea of college in his pure sense, I still wish could exist of like different kids from different areas, showing up, sharing ideas.

00:10:18.340 I do miss the idea of being a professor in a classroom, teaching, whether it was journalism or fiction, uh, poetry and just sharing ideas with the idea of making art.

00:10:28.480 But then the further I got into it, I don't know if you had the same experience is like every semester out of that 10 years, the, uh, the cultural war would peak into the classroom every like, I didn't get worse and worse and worse.

00:10:40.400 So here's, here's, here's what I think the, the concept of what a university is, is dead.

00:10:46.120 It was dying before it is dead.

00:10:47.900 Now the argument made to me as to the importance of the university is to bring young and curious minds together to expose them to better ideas where you said, uh, you know, Kristen, you're saying you got to read these books on philosophy.

00:10:59.900 I did all that and I was in, I was in the bag room at an airport underground reading a book on physics, near-death experiences, philosophy.

00:11:07.800 I didn't have to go to university for it.

00:11:09.480 I would just go online later and look at more reading materials, uh, talk to people in chat rooms.

00:11:13.920 And so I think there are people who desperately want to hold on, hold on to that idea.

00:11:17.240 But as the usefulness of university begins to collapse with the rise of the internet, the customer is always right.

00:11:22.980 And so when social media platforms like predominantly Facebook started algorithmically promoting wokeness, we go, we go back to the beginning of Facebook.

00:11:33.500 Let's go back to 2008.

00:11:34.920 What happens is as Facebook got to the point of, of universal usage, I shouldn't say universal, but when it got to the saturation where the average person had more than 300 friends and page likes, Facebook could no longer send them reverse chronological content.

00:11:53.280 So it used to be that if you followed your friend, whatever they posted would appear on your newsfeed and you, and then it would go, you know, reverse chronological after 300 people, it becomes impossible to see everything it moves too quickly.

00:12:04.660 So Facebook said, we have to keep things stable on the page for a certain amount of time.

00:12:09.400 And we want to maximize the utility.

00:12:12.100 So if someone posts something nonsensical, people are going to get bored with that and they're going to, they're going to turn off Facebook.

00:12:17.060 So they started, they, they, they, they create this algorithm that will show only what people like the most and what ends up happening.

00:12:25.500 How do you determine what someone likes?

00:12:27.380 Do they interact with it?

00:12:28.700 Do they share it?

00:12:29.600 Do they comment on it?

00:12:31.080 That's the simple thing Facebook decided.

00:12:33.320 What ends up happening is rage becomes the predominant motivator of, uh, of, of the algorithm.

00:12:39.740 It's more likely to get clicks and it is much more catalytic.

00:12:44.080 Yes.

00:12:44.340 Anger and rage for social media.

00:12:46.340 So Facebook starts promoting the most hate-filled, rage-filled content, which results in two parent trees, American and racial nationalism.

00:12:55.340 I don't, I shouldn't, I shouldn't, I shouldn't lump those together, but you had a very like more conservative, we love America.

00:13:00.820 Then you also add, I shouldn't, I actually, I should separate those.

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00:14:28.960 You started getting a rise of white nationalism in response to the anti-racist intersectional feminism and things like this.

00:14:39.960 Well, one of those things is not acceptable.

00:14:42.560 Advertisers will not advertise on what is perceived to be the enemy of social good.

00:14:47.980 So let me slow down.

00:14:49.120 Let me go back.

00:14:50.400 The first thing that happens is police brutality videos.

00:14:52.620 It didn't really matter the race.

00:14:54.140 But people would click on it.

00:14:55.160 They would share it.

00:14:55.960 And that would generate more attention.

00:14:58.000 Facebook would share it more.

00:14:59.420 Imagine you're eight years old in 2008.

00:15:01.560 And you're now starting to go on the computer.

00:15:03.900 Or let's say you're 10.

00:15:04.920 And you're going on Facebook.

00:15:06.300 You're not supposed to.

00:15:06.960 They say you got to be 13. 1.00

00:15:08.220 Your whole feed is nothing but black men being beaten by police. 0.98

00:15:11.940 Your whole world is built upon seeing nothing but this. 0.72

00:15:16.040 So young preteens and teenagers are on Facebook at this time.

00:15:18.880 That's the only thing they're seeing.

00:15:20.600 Then they start to get older, graduate high school, and they enter universities.

00:15:23.580 What happens?

00:15:24.160 They bring all of that into the university.

00:15:27.180 And then when you get these professors, this famous incident where Professor Nicholas Christakis was talking about Halloween costumes.

00:15:33.820 And he said, you know, you should be able to wear whatever costume.

00:15:36.840 Cultural appropriation isn't that big a deal.

00:15:38.400 Well, students surrounded him, screaming at him, saying that universities are supposed to be safe places where they're comfortable.

00:15:43.560 The university's response is the customer is always right.

00:15:47.100 We don't care about creating a place where people can learn.

00:15:49.640 We care about making money from a customer.

00:15:51.800 And the customer wants a daycare center for 18-year-olds.

00:15:55.720 And that's what we're going to give them.

00:15:57.300 So I would agree with that to a certain extent, except that I think that there are a lot of students who, maybe not woke students at Harvard or Yale,

00:16:08.400 but there are a lot of students in a lot of universities who are politically, they are not extremely leftist or they're not woke.

00:16:15.620 And they are actually having these views more or less imposed on them or they're being indoctrinated by some of their professors.

00:16:24.360 And so I liken it to a kind of a children of the corn scenario where you have, you know, at some point, you know, you had a lot of these professors.

00:16:33.120 Like when I was going through undergrad and grad school, you had a number of professors actually who were introducing students to these more leftist or more woke perspectives.

00:16:41.280 But I don't think that a lot of them realized that young people were going to take it, we're going to take it seriously.

00:16:47.920 You know, it was almost like, like, I remember taking a course when we talked about gender, it was a gender, gender and literature course.

00:16:54.800 And basically we were more or less indoctrinated in the idea that there's no such thing as a woman, you know, that gender is an artificial construct. 0.88

00:17:02.020 And this was, I think the professors kind of just felt like, oh, you know, we're just kind of like, we're just kind of fucking around here. 0.83

00:17:08.960 You know, we're just playing with ideas.

00:17:10.340 Nobody's really going to like really take this seriously.

00:17:13.260 And what happened is a number of young people did take it seriously.

00:17:17.200 And then they graduated, they went into the workforce or they themselves went into academia or they went into Google or wherever.

00:17:24.100 And then they start and they start initiating these really woke policies and woke perspectives.

00:17:31.620 I think it's, I think that's backwards.

00:17:33.500 You think?

00:17:34.060 Well, this is a debate, you know, I end up having with people who worked in universities.

00:17:37.580 I think everybody thinks they have the answer.

00:17:40.740 So I certainly could be wrong.

00:17:41.760 No, no, it's interesting.

00:17:42.520 And there's, you know, we had, we have people will say this all started in insert my industry.

00:17:47.300 One guy is like, look, I'm a carpenter.

00:17:48.960 And I'm telling you, like, it's the car, this association was doing trade training and they started to bring this stuff in.

00:17:53.380 And that happened way before.

00:17:54.360 And I'm like, everybody thinks it started where they were.

00:17:56.940 But here's what I think about the universities.

00:17:59.200 There, there were a lot of ideologies that float around universities.

00:18:04.420 Why, why, why is it that, as you mentioned, they start playing around the idea of gender as a social construct?

00:18:09.560 How does that turn into something they actually agreed with?

00:18:12.500 There's a bunch of ideas that universities play around with.

00:18:15.940 Why did that one become dominant? 0.72

00:18:17.980 Advertiser friendly.

00:18:18.960 That's really it.

00:18:19.600 So your Facebook, you get advertisers buying on your platform.

00:18:23.940 When wokeness started to emerge, it started with intersectional feminism. 1.00

00:18:28.500 It started with systemic racism and things like this.

00:18:31.380 You got a pushback.

00:18:32.740 You got the rise of the alt-right.

00:18:35.200 And I mean like the literal alt-right, like people who are white nationalists.

00:18:37.980 And I'm not talking about people who are calling for violence or murder.

00:18:40.760 I'm saying these are people who would make channels saying that this country is a country for white Christians and we should secure our borders.

00:18:45.560 All of a sudden advertisers panic.

00:18:47.120 And they're like, we do not want our product associated with that because we're trying to sell to everyone in this country.

00:18:52.540 White people may be 70%, but we've got a market share over here for Asians, for Latinos.

00:18:56.500 We will not advertise on your platform if that's the case.

00:18:59.380 The reason why the gender stuff actually takes foot in these companies is because companies were scared of being outside social orthodoxy. 1.00

00:19:07.680 So you certainly had several different ideologies popping up, but we'll take a look at Twitter.

00:19:15.000 Activists will complain about certain things.

00:19:18.440 And if a white person complains about racism against white people, the advertisers laugh and say, we don't care about that.

00:19:26.540 And the reason is it's a majority white country and no one is going to be bothered by what you're saying. 0.66

00:19:31.760 But white liberals will absolutely say, hey, racism is bad or whatever.

00:19:37.920 So it starts very, very subtly.

00:19:40.320 But as more and more issues arise where two people will go to Facebook and say, hey, I'm offended by this.

00:19:46.740 OK, well, you're talking about white Christian conservatism.

00:19:49.100 You have no foothold in media.

00:19:50.340 This has no impact on our on our advertisers.

00:19:52.780 You're talking about police brutality, racism.

00:19:55.080 This is racist.

00:19:55.820 We have to overreact and panic.

00:19:57.100 So this ends up creating a monetary system of cancel culture rule sets on Twitter where they claim we have to have special rules protecting trans people because of suicide rates.

00:20:11.580 And I asked Jack Dorsey this.

00:20:12.900 I'm like, well, what about body dysmorphia?

00:20:14.440 What about anything else?

00:20:15.440 Like you don't care.

00:20:16.960 And it's because only the things that offend advertisers and the advertisers actually don't care either.

00:20:22.400 They're only worried about what someone else thinks about them.

00:20:24.640 Everyone's scared.

00:20:25.000 Yes, that's right.

00:20:25.920 I think it's a lot of evil that hides behind this fake face of progress, you know, and it's not real progress.

00:20:31.840 But, you know, my take on it, like you say, you know, we all kind of think it starts where we came from, right?

00:20:37.460 We're from the front lines of the war in the colleges.

00:20:40.480 Obviously, I think the war is on all different front lines at the same time.

00:20:43.980 But like I always connected to starting with this country started to say we have to go to college.

00:20:50.340 A lot of people were told you got to go to college.

00:20:51.860 I was told that even, you know, that's not that long ago.

00:20:54.920 And I think the Marxists knew that, you know, and I really I look at the weather underground and the domestic terrorists that they were.

00:21:02.240 Avowed Marxists and they built bombs.

00:21:05.720 They killed people, went to jail.

00:21:08.060 And when those people were pardoned, many of them were pardoned by left leaning politicians like Susan Rosenberg was pardoned by Bill Clinton on his last day in office.

00:21:16.140 Look at who Cuomo pardoned his last day in office.

00:21:18.920 Violent terrorists who were Marxists.

00:21:21.520 They all became professors.

00:21:22.520 And I think they infiltrated these institutions to then spread this hate, this hateful message, this violent message to destroy.

00:21:31.840 America as a whole, you know, and then what did Susan Rosenberg do after a while? 0.99

00:21:36.660 She started the Thousand Currents platform, which then helped funnel the money for Black Lives Matter, ActBlue money, which then I see Black Lives Matter as like the new evolved version, violent version of what the weather underground was. 0.99

00:21:49.180 And so that but but that's just one front line in this whole, you know, decay of society that we're in.

00:21:55.820 If and so I agree, absolutely, those things were happening.

00:21:59.040 And I think postmodernist Marxist ideas were, you know, having a huge impact on universities.

00:22:04.260 But if Facebook banned Marxism, we would not have had the culture war, right?

00:22:10.880 You know, so where where where's the alt right today?

00:22:14.480 I mean, you know, a lot of these personalities had large platforms.

00:22:18.020 And again, let's separate what the media claims to find it.

00:22:21.600 Right.

00:22:21.740 I want to separate what the media claims is alt right.

00:22:23.760 They want you to imagine a guy chanting with a tiki torch screaming, Jews will not replace us. 1.00

00:22:27.260 Right.

00:22:27.360 I'm talking about a nonviolent guy who made a channel where he just talks about white rights or something, which certainly, you know, the corporate press will be like, that's the same thing.

00:22:36.300 Like, dude, a white dude in his house being like, I don't like affirmative action is very different from a guy with a tiki torch.

00:22:41.900 Right.

00:22:42.320 And so but that's all banned.

00:22:43.760 If you were a guy who had a channel and you said, I am concerned about mass migration, banned.

00:22:49.620 If you were like, I'm concerned about liberal policies and how they're destroying the family.

00:22:53.820 Basically, these were all in line with these people who believed the United States should be a white Christian nation banned.

00:23:00.860 If they did not ban that, but they banned the Marxist professors, we would be having a culture war with white nationalists.

00:23:07.460 I think a lot of the Marxist stuff, even though there was pockets of real violence from those weather underground people and in pockets of insanity between them, you know, in protests, whatnot over the years, it was mostly isolated to colleges and whatever small protests are doing.

00:23:21.100 But then Facebook and whatever algorithm you're on accelerated that.

00:23:25.220 And now it's a feedback loop.

00:23:26.560 It's so imagine this.

00:23:27.680 Imagine, you know, we had this period where like Ann Coulter tries to speak at Berkeley and then they come and they smash everything.

00:23:32.580 Milo tries to speak.

00:23:33.580 They're setting fires.

00:23:34.560 Imagine if social media banned Marxism, Marxist ideas, postmodernism, social justice, but they allowed more traditional family values.

00:23:44.680 What would happen is nobody would be seeing any conversation about Marxist ideas.

00:23:50.280 Ann Coulter would be getting prominent praise.

00:23:53.500 Her content would be number one on Facebook.

00:23:56.160 Everybody would see it.

00:23:57.440 They would be told this is good and right.

00:23:59.240 More importantly, young creators who want to make social media channels are thinking to themselves, if I want to get a million views, I better praise the family.

00:24:06.800 And they're like, don't the wrong.

00:24:09.360 Hey, if you oppose family values, you're going to get banned.

00:24:11.540 And then when Ann Coulter or Milo comes to speak at university, the police are going to be like, we can't let these people in.

00:24:18.140 They're going to smash things and destroy things.

00:24:20.100 Instead, what ends up happening is out of like you have this trend in society to make things more towards social justice because we don't like racism.

00:24:28.000 That's that's historically where we were going.

00:24:29.880 Ben Shapiro shows up to DePaul University and the police say, if you step foot on this property, we'll arrest you.

00:24:33.980 But here's the here's the thing for me, though.

00:24:36.660 Why? Here's a question.

00:24:39.220 What? Why is it that the more rightward perspective was the one that became taboo or more persecuted or prohibited?

00:24:49.760 Why? Why not the left?

00:24:51.100 And for me, I do trace it back to you mentioned Weather Underground.

00:24:54.140 What happened in academia, academia used to be a fairly conservative institution.

00:24:58.440 You know, think about the professors with their pipes and the, you know, the tweed coats and so forth.

00:25:02.760 But what happened was the Vietnam War and you had the Cultural Revolution of the 60s.

00:25:07.700 And so there was a dramatic change in hiring preferences in academia and people.

00:25:13.820 And there was this awareness of, OK, we need to shift with the culture.

00:25:17.180 And so you had massive change in preferences for fields of study dissertations.

00:25:24.100 You know, a hiring committee is going to say which dissertation is more politically interesting or useful or what have you.

00:25:30.000 And so then what happens is you get into an academia, you get into a feedback loop where then those professors, the new professors that you hire, the liberal ones, then they hire people like themselves.

00:25:42.500 And so I think what we've gotten to, at least with academia, is you've gotten to a situation where these patterns now, these cycles have been occurring now for years and years and years.

00:25:51.340 And so you just have more and more people of a leftist perspective being hired.

00:25:56.880 And so the question for me is, why is it, say, at Facebook, who decides that one perspective over another is not tolerable for advertisers?

00:26:07.360 I mean, do the advertisers really care or is it that you have a lot of leftist people at Facebook or at these companies, for instance, who say we don't tolerate this other perspective?

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00:27:49.580 Socially acceptable.

00:27:50.520 So even though the universities are worse than they've ever been, SNL just had Shane Gillis host.

00:27:57.240 A guy they fired, what, five years ago because he made jokes about Asian people.

00:28:02.560 Now he's hosting.

00:28:03.400 And I don't think that's only because Elon bought X, but Elon buys Twitter, turns it into X, unbans a bunch of people.

00:28:12.660 And now you have active news conversation.

00:28:16.040 Look, Vice is gone.

00:28:18.800 Vice.com is over.

00:28:21.240 Hear that Johnny Depp fans?

00:28:22.560 Yeah, it's crazy.

00:28:25.600 It's crazy.

00:28:26.120 And I mean, TimCast is flourishing, new companies, more in line with a classically liberal.

00:28:34.540 And I don't mean like politically liberal, but for the people listening.

00:28:37.620 Right.

00:28:37.980 We're winning.

00:28:39.200 And a huge shift happened when Elon bought Twitter.

00:28:42.240 I think what happens is you look at the adpocalypse on YouTube.

00:28:48.040 Again, the Wall Street Journal, oh, PewDiePie said the N-word.

00:28:53.480 YouTube panics and builds a system to allow advertisers to control this because advertisers get scared.

00:28:58.740 It's a Mexican standoff.

00:29:00.020 Why?

00:29:00.220 What causes the advertisers to be scared of a more right-wing perspective but not a left one?

00:29:05.120 And I guess that's what I'm trying to get to is I think that there are a lot of people who came through the academic system who then got jobs at these companies and they're intolerant of certain perspectives.

00:29:12.220 That's true.

00:29:12.620 Right.

00:29:12.920 I do agree.

00:29:13.480 However, I think more it's that if you – do you ever hear the story about, you know, how we ended up with the Civil Rights Act, Civil Rights Legislation in this country?

00:29:24.040 Lyndon Johnson asked his workers to drive his dog back home because he was, you know, he's a president or whatever.

00:29:30.920 And they said, sir, we can't do that.

00:29:33.060 And he's like, well, why not?

00:29:34.180 You drive it back, right?

00:29:35.540 Can you bring my dog?

00:29:36.140 And they were like, when we drive through the South, we can't stop for gas.

00:29:40.480 And he was like, what do you mean?

00:29:42.180 Segregation. 0.89

00:29:43.020 We're not allowed. 0.98

00:29:43.860 These are black men. 0.99

00:29:44.360 They're like, we're not allowed to stop for gas. 0.99

00:29:45.940 We can't have a dog with us.

00:29:47.340 It's going to be hard enough for us to get food for ourselves.

00:29:49.360 And he was like, that's insane.

00:29:50.920 And so this was a huge catalyst.

00:29:52.560 So they say, I mean, maybe the story is, you know, apocryphal or whatever.

00:29:55.960 But it's a huge catalyst.

00:29:57.000 Economics.

00:29:57.900 You have people who are like, look, man, I don't care who you are.

00:30:00.980 I want your money.

00:30:01.580 And so certainly there were racist traditional values that existed in this country for a very,

00:30:07.580 very long time.

00:30:08.760 Economics played a huge role in changing a lot of this.

00:30:12.480 We need to make money.

00:30:14.480 How do we make money?

00:30:15.700 We get more customers.

00:30:17.100 So right now, I love this.

00:30:18.880 There's a lot of people online who believe that there is an active effort to make the

00:30:26.600 United States mixed race.

00:30:28.680 And I'm like, certainly those people do exist.

00:30:30.820 There are leftists who are like, we should race mix.

00:30:33.000 We just saw the Google Gemini thing where they got rid of white people. 0.86

00:30:35.300 That's true.

00:30:36.140 But you know, there's a really simple reason why the cereal commercial has a mixed race 0.85

00:30:40.280 family in it.

00:30:41.380 It's like you got a black mom and a white dad and a mixed race kid.

00:30:44.160 And people are like, why are they doing commercials like that?

00:30:47.060 It's because they're trying to make people think I'm like, no, no, no.

00:30:49.640 It's because they're trying to reduce their budget so they can make one commercial that

00:30:53.720 will sell cereal to a black family and a white family.

00:30:56.720 No, for real.

00:30:57.300 You don't think it's as heavily politicized as we think?

00:30:59.680 You think it really is more of a monetary based, a revenue based decision, really?

00:31:04.520 For the boomers that are running advertising agencies, these are people who work in 0.87

00:31:10.820 conservative.

00:31:11.260 Do you think it's so glamorous?

00:31:12.180 They're scared.

00:31:12.440 They are scared shitless of the children of the core and the younger kids, right?

00:31:16.140 You're right. 0.58

00:31:17.020 But like 10 years ago, we started seeing commercials of like a black guy with a white

00:31:21.000 woman and they're buying a car. 1.00

00:31:22.600 I'm like, that's just a marketing guy being like, we can make two commercials, one targeting

00:31:27.720 the black community, one targeting the white community.

00:31:29.140 Can we do both? 1.00

00:31:29.900 And then someone who's stupid goes, let's just have a black man and a white woman. 1.00

00:31:33.780 And then, you know, we're showing that, you know, we were progressive. 0.99

00:31:36.960 But all it does, and this is true because I was reading data on this, it creates something

00:31:41.320 that doesn't work for anybody.

00:31:42.900 So there, you know, when people started saying, like I started seeing these things pop up,

00:31:47.260 it was a big trend where they're like, look, they're trying to make these mixed race commercials

00:31:50.520 to convince white people to sleep with not white people and all that.

00:31:53.720 And then I was like, you can actually listen to what some of these marketing guys said.

00:31:56.880 These are people in their late fifties.

00:31:58.500 They don't know anything about this cultural Marxism.

00:32:00.400 All they know is they were told to reduce the budget and to target a wider demographic.

00:32:05.700 How can you get more people involved?

00:32:07.720 What ended up happening is these commercials were found to be unappealing to white people 0.56

00:32:11.380 and black people.

00:32:12.740 However, when Bud Light happened, I actually, I predicted it.

00:32:17.340 I was like, Bud Light hired Dylan Mulvaney because the new millennial who just took over 1.00

00:32:22.320 thought they were going to be progressive.

00:32:24.140 And that's exactly what happened.

00:32:25.660 So, but doesn't that, doesn't that then reinforce though, the argument that I'm making about

00:32:30.680 that it actually is the younger generation heavily politicized driving these decisions.

00:32:34.640 You, but you're not wrong about that.

00:32:36.300 You're just after the fact, right?

00:32:37.700 So the boomers are like, how do we make money? 1.00

00:32:41.080 The millennials interpret that incorrectly.

00:32:44.060 Ah, interesting.

00:32:44.960 So the millennials go like they're being fed this message through like the people running

00:32:50.360 Facebook, Jack Dorsey running Twitter.

00:32:52.080 He said, free speech wing of the free speech party.

00:32:53.680 Hey, when X started, it was like, say whatever you want, you know, whatever.

00:32:58.480 Then when advertisers went, Hey Jack, I don't want to run my, my toothpaste ad next to, next

00:33:03.740 to a guy saying the N word over and over again.

00:33:05.360 So we're pulling our ads.

00:33:06.980 Why?

00:33:07.540 Well, because it's just nasty and offensive.

00:33:09.320 Right.

00:33:09.640 So then he creates the rule like, Hey, you can't use hate speech.

00:33:12.580 It's pissing people off.

00:33:14.360 People say cracker all the time on, on Twitter.

00:33:16.580 No advertiser cares.

00:33:17.680 Why? 1.00

00:33:17.960 Because white people don't care and white liberals especially don't care. 0.99

00:33:20.540 Right. 0.99

00:33:20.740 I think, but, but this race, sorry, just this race is a generation being told these are

00:33:25.260 the rules and these are wrong without understanding why those were put in place.

00:33:29.480 The other problem is we've, we keep redefining what's offensive.

00:33:32.280 Yeah.

00:33:32.520 So what was not offensive yesterday is now the next most offensive thing tomorrow, you know?

00:33:36.580 And I think going back to your point about fear and advertisers too, is like maybe the

00:33:40.340 left, you know, they morph this word is they easily turn into a monolith and rage against

00:33:48.620 whatever corporations, whereas the right doesn't really do that anymore.

00:33:51.340 They used to kind of, cause I think they kind of coalesced around getting Bill Maher canceled

00:33:55.380 all those years ago with his first show for the 9-11 comics.

00:33:57.960 I'm going to grab some, keep talking.

00:33:58.740 Yeah.

00:33:58.880 Uh, but like, that's, that's the problem.

00:34:01.520 I think it's like the right has a hard time coalescing these days because it's more of

00:34:04.040 like a spectrum of actual individuals.

00:34:06.580 Although obviously there's people who are a monolith within these different subsects

00:34:10.420 of the right, but the left really does coalesce around a big idea and then lashes out and

00:34:15.840 then advertisers freak out.

00:34:17.100 Take a look at, take a look at this.

00:34:18.240 What do we got?

00:34:19.200 Can you see what that is?

00:34:20.600 You can sort of make it out on screen.

00:34:21.980 It's very small, but I'll hold it up a little bit for you.

00:34:24.840 Okay.

00:34:25.100 This is a magic, the gathering card called unholy strength.

00:34:30.960 You know, magic, the gathering, I think tracks really, really well, the culture war.

00:34:36.620 So this is from 1994 and this art was banned in the next set.

00:34:42.840 They removed the flaming pentagram from behind the man.

00:34:46.540 It's quite literally meant to be unholy.

00:34:49.460 It is, it is swamp mana and it is an evil guy.

00:34:54.180 And conservative Christians were angry and they said, this is demonic and satanic.

00:34:58.820 So the company, because this is, I don't know if wizards owned it or who owned it when

00:35:03.420 it first started, but they were like, okay.

00:35:04.780 And they removed that.

00:35:06.240 Let me, let me grab something else for you guys.

00:35:08.240 But while you, while you, while you grab that, it reminds me of how, you know, people freak

00:35:12.040 out about certain things because of the way they're perceived in modern times.

00:35:16.160 And they just let the modern people take it and reinterpret it.

00:35:19.100 But I'm like, this reminds me of people talking about death metal bands from the nineties with

00:35:23.360 inverted crosses.

00:35:24.280 I'm like, that actually is a holy symbol because it was St. Paul or St. Peter who was crucified

00:35:29.760 upside down because he didn't want to be crucified like Jesus.

00:35:31.980 Well, this, this real quick.

00:35:33.600 So this is the next card I want to show you because we actually have a case of banned

00:35:36.640 cards.

00:35:37.380 This is why these are all for sale.

00:35:39.480 So this, this card is also from 1994.

00:35:42.520 So it's a little bit older than unholy strength.

00:35:44.940 Do you guys want to take a look at that?

00:35:46.080 It's called cleanse.

00:35:46.740 Can you read what it says?

00:35:47.880 I cannot.

00:35:49.080 Can you, can it, I would love it if someone else.

00:35:51.140 Do you want Shane to read it?

00:35:52.580 Shane, read it.

00:35:53.040 All right.

00:35:53.660 Read what it says.

00:35:55.400 I already.

00:35:57.600 Read it.

00:35:58.300 All right.

00:35:58.880 Okay. 1.00

00:35:59.900 All black creatures in play are destroyed. 0.98

00:36:02.940 Yeah. 0.98

00:36:03.360 Wow.

00:36:04.180 As soon as you saw what it said, you're like, whoa.

00:36:06.240 I'm like, oh, Tim set me up.

00:36:07.720 Yeah.

00:36:08.140 This card, not all.

00:36:09.880 Okay.

00:36:10.060 So look with unholy strength, Christian conservatives got angry about Satanism in a game.

00:36:14.480 And so they changed the art.

00:36:15.720 But this card from 1994 was playable up until like a couple of years ago when the company,

00:36:23.620 it's a Hasbro company now, thought that it's offensive.

00:36:27.920 Okay.

00:36:28.420 So for those that don't understand the game, I'll explain.

00:36:30.840 There are five colors of magic.

00:36:34.120 So there's green, which is like nature.

00:36:36.140 There's blue, which is, you know, it's represented by islands and water.

00:36:39.620 Uh, so it could be ice water.

00:36:41.880 It's control.

00:36:42.540 There's red, the fires of passion.

00:36:44.540 Then there's white, which is planes, sunshine and holy energy.

00:36:47.960 And then there's black, which is swamp.

00:36:50.180 It's ambition.

00:36:51.000 It's darkness. 0.98

00:36:52.080 This is a white monocard called cleanse that says all black creatures are destroyed. 0.72

00:36:58.380 So they banned it from the game in its entirety.

00:37:02.180 That's amazing.

00:37:02.980 You know, what's funny is that the left created loopholes around that now, because for those

00:37:07.700 who couldn't see it, when I read it, black is lowercase B.

00:37:10.680 And then in like in, in style guides, they change it.

00:37:14.180 So black, if you're talking about a person is uppercase B. 1.00

00:37:16.160 It's hard to keep up with all of that.

00:37:17.180 But white is lowercase.

00:37:18.600 Yeah.

00:37:18.860 You know, W that is.

00:37:20.040 Well, it's interesting that you bring up the, the fact that it used to be the, the more

00:37:23.720 conservative side that was, that was repressive and censoring.

00:37:27.620 Because I mean, I think about like, for instance, the Christian conservatives, you know, the nineties,

00:37:32.220 Marilyn Manson, right.

00:37:33.360 And it's very hard to explain to the young generation now what it was like in the nineties and how

00:37:39.420 repressive it was and how there were these moves for, to government censorship of, you

00:37:43.040 know, Time Warner and all of that.

00:37:45.720 And so, and so that's one of the things that I try to explain.

00:37:48.120 I know we'll talk about it later, but about Marilyn Manson is to look back at Manson and

00:37:52.580 what he was doing, you know, in the nineties or whatever, it's very perplexing, I think

00:37:55.820 to a lot of people now, what's all that about?

00:37:57.360 But he was actually, he was actually a symbol of the fight against repression and censorship.

00:38:02.720 It's just that now that repressiveness has moved to the left.

00:38:05.540 I learned more about religion from Marilyn Manson in the nineties than I did from pundits

00:38:08.540 on Fox.

00:38:08.960 I don't, I don't doubt it.

00:38:09.960 I'll tell you that.

00:38:10.960 I don't doubt it.

00:38:11.960 But now that sense of repressiveness, uh, has, has moved now to the extreme left.

00:38:15.460 Yeah.

00:38:16.460 They've become, they've become what they hate.

00:38:17.460 I want to show you something too.

00:38:18.460 You said the nineties.

00:38:19.460 Let me, uh, I want to, I'm going to pull up this video.

00:38:21.720 I don't want to play too much of it because I don't want to trigger a copyright, even though

00:38:25.460 it's just.

00:38:26.460 Nineties, 1990s.

00:38:27.460 Right?

00:38:28.460 Well, so let me, let me, let me see where we're here.

00:38:30.460 But the 1990s are.

00:38:31.460 All right.

00:38:32.460 All right.

00:38:33.460 You guys ready?

00:38:34.460 You know the song, right?

00:38:35.460 I want you to listen to this.

00:38:36.460 Did you notice that?

00:38:45.460 Yeah.

00:38:46.460 They censored the word God.

00:38:48.460 This is 2006.

00:38:49.460 2006.

00:38:50.460 They censored the word God.

00:38:52.460 What happened from 2006 to 2012, where it, it was offensive in a music video to say,

00:39:01.460 God damned, because the Christian conservatives had the moral authority in this country. 1.00

00:39:06.460 That's so interesting. 0.99

00:39:07.460 To where now it is drag children on stage being given money by adult gay men at the club. 0.98

00:39:14.460 And that is like, well, that is, that's not even funny, but like the degenerate left, 0.91

00:39:17.460 they, that song is still censored like that on the radio.

00:39:20.460 But if you go over to like some hip hop stations, they censor some certain words, but there's

00:39:24.460 ideas out there about twerking and grinding up on people and all this crazy stuff from like

00:39:28.460 I spice or drink or even new Kanye lyrics.

00:39:30.460 I can't let those go.

00:39:31.460 Let's let's let's let me just break this down.

00:39:33.460 Okay.

00:39:34.460 Hit the disco.

00:39:35.460 I write sins, not tragedies.

00:39:37.460 400 million views.

00:39:39.460 Wow.

00:39:40.460 17 years ago.

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00:39:43.460 Guy's getting married and he finds out that his wife cheated on him.

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00:41:24.460 Exactly.

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00:41:26.460 Wow.

00:41:27.460 Talk about a cultural shift.

00:41:28.460 This goes all right.

00:41:29.460 When you put it like that.

00:41:31.460 It's crazy.

00:41:32.460 I remember being a kid in the late 80s, early 90s.

00:41:36.460 And there was a comedy, a sitcom that my family watched.

00:41:39.460 And I remember that there was going to be a storyline in a particular episode about a guy in college having sex with his girlfriend.

00:41:47.460 And you weren't going to see anything.

00:41:48.460 It was just going to be a conversation.

00:41:50.460 But there was a like a PSA or a warning, basically a kind of a trigger warning ahead of this telling parents, you might not want your children watching this because there was going to be a reference to premarital sex.

00:42:00.460 We have come so far.

00:42:01.460 We have come so far.

00:42:02.460 No, it wasn't.

00:42:03.460 It was like some out like Michael J. Fox family ties thing or whatever, but like we've come and I don't think that was good, but I'm just saying we've come so far from that.

00:42:11.460 You know, it's fascinating to me is the show.

00:42:14.460 You know what show I absolutely despise is married with children. 0.96

00:42:17.460 Hmm. Yeah.

00:42:18.460 Yeah. I absolutely hate that show.

00:42:19.460 They had anthrax on.

00:42:20.460 I thought I liked that.

00:42:21.460 Well, the band, not the only episode of married with children.

00:42:24.460 I actually liked was when Al Bundy was being I can't remember exactly what happened, but I think he's being he's being harassed by some guy who's suing him and he's doing everything right.

00:42:35.460 But it doesn't matter.

00:42:36.460 The machine's out to get him.

00:42:37.460 Finally, he punches the guy in the face and the next scene is him and Peggy happy together, which is rare for that show fanning money where he says, I can't believe that worked.

00:42:47.460 I sued the guy for breaking my fist on his face, something like that.

00:42:51.460 And I'm like this whole show was they hate themselves.

00:42:54.460 They hate their kids.

00:42:55.460 They hate their neighbors.

00:42:56.460 They hate he hates his job. 1.00

00:42:57.460 He's a loser. 1.00

00:42:58.460 And no matter what happens, everything is miserable and bad. 0.99

00:43:01.460 And I'm like, I look, leave it to beaver is certainly not a show I'd watch, but I'd watch it over.

00:43:08.460 It's kind of nihilistic.

00:43:09.460 Yeah, it's it's yeah, it's not it's nihilistic in a way toward the toward family and all kinds of institutions.

00:43:13.460 I think the Simpsons were a big component of moral degradation in this country.

00:43:18.460 And I love the Simpsons.

00:43:19.460 The first nine seasons, I can quote almost every episode, you know, me, Seamus Coughlin and Richie Jackson will be quoting the Simpsons and they're better at it than I am.

00:43:28.460 But think about the nature of the show.

00:43:30.460 It's not the worst family in the world, but Homer strangles his son and his son's, you know, a deviant.

00:43:36.460 And this is not the first, but it really is a shift towards dysfunctional family, painful marriage sucks or, you know, Homer and March love each other for sure.

00:43:47.460 But you start getting into a lot more shows.

00:43:49.460 And to be fair, like Married with Children was around the same time.

00:43:52.460 Mm hmm.

00:43:53.460 It was the family dysfunctional thing. 0.99

00:43:55.460 We enjoyed watching the suffering of others, losers.

00:43:58.460 And I'm just like, man, I think we started building up a culture where we told people families got problems. 0.98

00:44:05.460 They're bad.

00:44:06.460 Here's bad things about them.

00:44:08.460 We started propping up characters who are like, like, you know, Homer's a weird character in that he's been to outer space, but he's a really, he's kind of a bad guy.

00:44:17.460 You know, it's funny.

00:44:18.460 He's a mean guy, but he's a bad guy.

00:44:20.460 I've been thinking about this a lot lately because I've been rereading the Odyssey written by Homer thinking about the Simpsons and the Simpsons in a way as degenerate as we might think it is into many degrees.

00:44:30.460 It's kind of like the Odyssey when, especially when you talk about him being kind of a bad guy and or going to space on these great, ridiculous trips because it's the Odyssey is also about family and falling apart and temptation and work and all that stuff.

00:44:43.460 And then, and then real quick with Bundy, I also think about the same stuff because they named him kind of after Ted Bundy.

00:44:48.460 Ted Bundy.

00:44:49.460 Is that what they, I don't know what that's for a fact, but like, I can't not think about Ted Bundy when watching this American family fall apart with the same name.

00:44:56.460 You know, Simpsons, they were brilliant in the writers and their comedy, the jokes they came up with, and I lament the loss of it.

00:45:03.760 Yep.

00:45:04.760 But much like the Daily Show with Jon Stewart, Jon Stewart is far from perfect, not the smartest guy in the world, but he's a smart and he's a funny guy.

00:45:14.760 And so a lot of conservatives really don't like him because he was very dismissive of conservative arguments.

00:45:18.760 He was a liberal guy, but he's legit funny.

00:45:21.760 I mean, so his show's back, he's ragging on Joe Biden.

00:45:24.760 Mm-hmm .

00:45:25.760 Democrats are losing their minds about it.

00:45:26.760 He continues to insult them.

00:45:28.760 And I appreciate it despite the fact he also insults Tucker Carlson and Trump.

00:45:31.760 That's fine.

00:45:32.760 Yeah.

00:45:33.760 But what came after him?

00:45:34.760 When they tried to recreate Jon Stewart, they created the scumbaggery of John Oliver.

00:45:39.760 They created the, the really low brow Jordan Klepper, Samantha Bee, just like some of the worst of the worst in terms of political ignorance, pulling clips out of context. 0.99

00:45:53.760 And so while the Simpsons certainly is masterfully done, the things that come after it are shows where the family is trash, where having a family is bad, where the father's a moron. 0.97

00:46:03.760 And look, I love the Simpsons, but Homer is a bad father, a bad character, and everyone loves it. 0.98

00:46:10.760 Pro nuclear.

00:46:11.760 That's a good thing.

00:46:12.760 Nuclear family and nuclear power.

00:46:13.760 No, but at the show, the show, you know, was, was bad for nuclear power.

00:46:17.760 In fact, the Simpsons are often credited with the reason why nuclear energy is so frowned upon.

00:46:22.760 It's a three eyed fish.

00:46:23.760 Yeah.

00:46:24.760 You know, this is the thing about Jon Stewart is that he'll argue, I'm just a comedian.

00:46:28.760 They're just jokes.

00:46:29.760 Yeah.

00:46:30.760 But that's not how people take it.

00:46:31.760 Right.

00:46:32.760 People take, you know, they believe that the underlying premise is always true.

00:46:35.760 So when the Simpsons mocks the nuclear power plant with a three eyed fish, of course, there's no three eyed fish, but the underlying premise is nuclear power is killing you.

00:46:42.760 Right.

00:46:43.760 And think about how many people said like younger people around our age during maybe pre Trump said they got their news from the daily show.

00:46:49.760 Yeah.

00:46:50.760 A show that's built upon a deceptively edited reality.

00:46:53.760 It's an interesting argument in a debate in general, the effects of art and whether we're talking about, you know, high art or popular culture or what have you, because on the one hand, you know, and this I will to the death, I'll defend artistic freedom.

00:47:08.760 And I don't like censorship of any kind at the end.

00:47:11.760 And at the same time, though, I get exasperated with people who say, well, it's just a TV show.

00:47:18.760 You know, it doesn't have any effect.

00:47:19.760 It's like, no, you can't have it both ways.

00:47:21.760 If you're going to tell me that art is powerful and art is important, then you have to also understand that it also has negative effects as well.

00:47:28.760 And again, I'm not for censorship, you know, obviously, but I think and I think these things are cyclical, you know, in the 80s, there was a real return to more, quote unquote, traditional values, conservatism.

00:47:38.760 People were tired of all of the skyrocketing, skyrocketing divorce rate of the 70s.

00:47:44.760 And, you know, you had Reaganism and all of that in the 80s.

00:47:47.760 And so I wonder, too, if what we saw with like The Simpsons and so forth was a kind of then like cycle back then to critiquing the family.

00:47:54.760 But real quick, you are for censorship.

00:47:57.760 I am for censorship.

00:47:59.760 You absolutely are.

00:48:00.760 Yes.

00:48:01.760 Do you think that Twitter and Facebook should allow videos of children being abused or trafficked or murdered?

00:48:08.760 Is that art?

00:48:09.760 I mean, I didn't say you said you oppose censorship.

00:48:11.760 I oppose artistic censorship.

00:48:13.760 Yes.

00:48:14.760 See that.

00:48:15.760 Well, there are certainly things that the left would consider art like child drag.

00:48:19.760 I don't know.

00:48:20.760 Maybe you're in favor of that.

00:48:21.760 I'm not.

00:48:22.760 I think in favor, but I think I think I don't think it should be allowed.

00:48:25.760 And so but but simply put censorship.

00:48:27.760 I understand colloquially we all refer to censorship.

00:48:29.760 We're talking about the suppression of people's speech and opinions, their values, their ideas.

00:48:33.760 I'm I'm I am in favor of censorship.

00:48:36.760 Just the right kind.

00:48:38.760 Everybody to some degree is.

00:48:39.760 That's right.

00:48:40.760 I don't want.

00:48:41.760 That's right.

00:48:42.760 I don't think, you know, because my view changed on this years ago.

00:48:44.760 I used to be very much like censorship is bad.

00:48:46.760 I don't really think about it.

00:48:47.760 Ian Crossland comes in.

00:48:48.760 He says, I was a moderator for minds.

00:48:50.760 I do.

00:48:51.760 I do sift through all the videos of kids being beaten and sexually abused.

00:48:55.760 And a human has to remove those things.

00:48:57.760 I'm like, yeah, that should be censored.

00:48:59.760 Yeah.

00:49:00.760 Can we draw a distinction between crime?

00:49:02.760 And I think child drag shows aren't even criminal.

00:49:05.760 Well, I mean, I guess, honestly, I don't like the idea of it.

00:49:08.760 I don't like the idea of it.

00:49:09.760 But would I would I be in favor of censoring it?

00:49:11.760 I'm not I'm not sure.

00:49:12.760 I would.

00:49:13.760 My line is where we start to abuse the innocent and children.

00:49:17.760 But then people on the left would disagree with that being abuse because they think neutering

00:49:21.760 children or putting them in drag is actually good for them. 0.95

00:49:24.760 Who's putting kids in drag? 0.98

00:49:25.760 I haven't even seen this.

00:49:26.760 I must be out of the loop.

00:49:28.760 There is a 10 year old boy in a viral video from a few years ago dancing on stage at an

00:49:34.760 adult male gay bar.

00:49:36.760 That's right.

00:49:37.760 And I'm like, we shouldn't allow this because drag has costume changes, they call it.

00:49:46.760 So when the little boy goes on stage wearing a dress and he rips his dress off to reveal

00:49:49.760 he's wearing shorts, that's just a costume change. 0.83

00:49:52.760 And there's gay men giving him money. 0.78

00:49:54.760 And I'm like, drag has always been about sexualized performance where they collect money, much 0.98

00:50:00.760 like stripping is.

00:50:01.760 And so, yeah, that that should not be.

00:50:03.760 How come Tipper Gore is not going after Lil Nas X videos, but she went after like Twisted 1.00

00:50:07.760 Sister videos?

00:50:08.760 She gave up.

00:50:09.760 She's a has been now.

00:50:10.760 That's crazy.

00:50:11.760 I mean, like that was her thing.

00:50:12.760 You would think if if Marilyn Manson or Dee Snider in the 80s is pre Manson, but like

00:50:18.760 if they were pole dancing on Satan, she would have a problem in the 80s. 0.99

00:50:23.760 I would imagine.

00:50:24.760 Well, how come she's so quiet now?

00:50:25.760 I guess she just gave up and then no one really cares.

00:50:28.760 And, you know, my perspective also, I am more to the left than you guys are, I think.

00:50:34.760 I mean, certainly on abortion for one thing.

00:50:36.760 But I'll say this.

00:50:37.760 What does that mean?

00:50:39.760 Make your point and then we'll come back to it.

00:50:40.760 I don't want to stop you.

00:50:41.760 Oh, OK. Yeah.

00:50:42.760 No, that's OK.

00:50:43.760 So I I grew up in East Texas in a hyper conservative environment.

00:50:49.760 I'm talking about my family, my church and all of that.

00:50:51.760 And there was there's certainly a lot of good that came from that.

00:50:54.760 But I I really felt like in a lot of ways it was a very problematically repressive environment.

00:51:02.760 And so I find myself getting getting concerned when I see from the right this real drive toward censorship or what I would say is a kind of like hyper focus on what should be personal private morality.

00:51:19.760 And so I think that's one thing that sort of gives me pause.

00:51:22.760 Do I like the idea of like a kid drag show?

00:51:24.760 No, of course not.

00:51:25.760 But I've just seen the other side of things where, you know, I the way that I grew up, the way that I was raised, I didn't like that either in a lot of ways.

00:51:32.760 And so I get really concerned when I when it seems like we're going from one side to the other.

00:51:37.760 Yes, there's so much censorship coming from the left in certain ways politically on, you know, on social media and so forth before Elon took over.

00:51:47.760 But on the other hand, I didn't really like, you know, like Marilyn Manson and people like that had a point like what was going.

00:51:52.760 I felt like there were a lot of things that were going on in more conservative society calling out the hypocrisy of a lot of people in the conservative world or on the left, because people forget Tipper Gore was on the left.

00:52:03.760 Right. She sounds like a conservative because it was around the time that conservative media dominated. 0.96

00:52:06.760 She and Bob Dole were kind of an odd pairing.

00:52:08.760 But this is the interesting thing, too.

00:52:10.760 Like when I mentioned the magic, the gathering card and the saintism, it was Democrats.

00:52:13.760 Yeah, it wasn't it was it wasn't overwhelmingly just Republicans on the right.

00:52:16.760 It was Democrats as well.

00:52:18.760 But so I'm curious. I definitely will not start an abortion debate.

00:52:22.760 But I told myself I wasn't going to let's open it up.

00:52:25.760 But you but you mentioned you're to the left of us on abortion.

00:52:27.760 So my question is, what what is it? What do you mean by that?

00:52:30.760 I believe that women should have basically unfettered access to abortion at any point. 1.00

00:52:40.760 Definitely up until well, like we talk about when we talk about the fetus to me, what's important is what degree of conversation.

00:52:47.760 What degree of cognition is going on? What degree of pain awareness is going on?

00:52:51.760 I don't believe that just because something is going to be a human eventually that that means that its interests or rights supersede that of a much more cognitively developed, full grown woman. 0.69

00:53:03.760 Now, I understand that that's not a view that most conservatives agree with.

00:53:07.760 But but I believe that I'm comfortable with the first two trimesters, because up to that point, I don't think that we're talking about anything that's more advanced than the animals we kill to put meat on our plate.

00:53:18.760 So why would you assume you're to the left of either of us?

00:53:21.760 No, I said left. I meant right. Sorry.

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00:54:48.760 What?

00:54:51.760 I'm to the left.

00:54:53.760 I'm to the left.

00:54:55.760 Aren't you all anti-abortion, anti-choice?

00:54:58.760 Everyone in here probably has different views.

00:55:00.760 I assumed you were very pro-life.

00:55:01.760 This is why I asked not to bring up an abortion debate to ask you why you would assume my position would be conservative.

00:55:07.760 Probably because, I mean, we've talked about this.

00:55:09.760 I think it's human sacrifice.

00:55:11.760 I think, I think, I think.

00:55:13.760 Well, that's an extreme position.

00:55:14.760 I think we need to rebrand abortion as human sacrifice and that it's a life right at conception.

00:55:20.760 So you're not, so you're not, so you're okay with women having access to abortion up to a certain point?

00:55:26.760 Up to a certain point.

00:55:27.760 Yeah.

00:55:28.760 So are you.

00:55:29.760 Constitutional limitations on the right of individuals to, individuals have inalienable rights.

00:55:38.760 And so the issue is, for the most part, I think abortion is wrong.

00:55:43.760 I think it's something people should not do.

00:55:45.760 But there is a challenge in the authority of the government over a person and their constitutional rights.

00:55:52.760 The baby has constitutional rights.

00:55:53.760 The mother has constitutional rights.

00:55:55.760 What I would prefer is, if the baby can be saved, it should not be killed.

00:56:00.760 So that's usually why if, like, as.

00:56:02.760 When you say baby, are you talking about a fetus?

00:56:04.760 Is that what we're talking about?

00:56:05.760 Yeah.

00:56:06.760 But you said up in, would you say up like until the third trimester, you're okay with it being legal?

00:56:10.760 Third?

00:56:11.760 No.

00:56:12.760 No, up until the third.

00:56:13.760 I think Europe's got a good.

00:56:14.760 First two trimesters.

00:56:15.760 The European standard's probably good.

00:56:16.760 Yeah.

00:56:17.760 Which is like 12 weeks.

00:56:18.760 Yeah.

00:56:19.760 So, and that's Europe.

00:56:20.760 In the U.S., it's mostly like to the point of birth.

00:56:23.760 But my position is typically of a libertarian governmental limitations position, meaning I think abortion is wrong.

00:56:30.760 However, when you start looking at the nuances of how you'd handle abortion in the instance of a woman who was raped and her constitutional rights are being violated.

00:56:37.760 My, simply put, the government can't mandate someone provide their body to another person.

00:56:41.760 I think if a woman chooses to have sex and gets pregnant, she has a moral responsibility for the thing that she chose to do. 0.98

00:56:46.760 If a woman is, without her consent, forcibly impregnated, the government cannot mandate she give her body to that other person.

00:56:52.760 And the argument, I've had this argument a million times with pro-lifers, so I'm not going to, I don't want to start an argument.

00:56:56.760 We can move on from this.

00:56:57.760 My point is simply like, it's unfortunate, but constitutional limitations would, I believe, result in at least up to 12 to 16 weeks.

00:57:06.760 Women have right, have access to abortion without the government's intervention. 0.90

00:57:09.760 Which, you know, I think is a bad thing morally, but I don't know that we want to empower a government to mandate a person give their body and blood to another person.

00:57:17.760 But I don't want to bring up the abortion thing again, which we're getting into.

00:57:20.760 My question was simply the perception of.

00:57:22.760 Why did I think that?

00:57:23.760 Yeah, I guess because there are a number of people that I know you're aligned with, generally speaking, who are very pro-life.

00:57:30.760 And so I just assumed, yeah, I assumed that you were, that you were anti-abortion, that you thought it should be illegal.

00:57:36.760 So for me, again, it comes down to a very sort of non-religious, sort of cold-eyed view that we should be considering things, again, like cognition, sentience, pain perception.

00:57:50.760 And I don't understand if we live in a world where we can slaughter animals for our food who have much more cognition and pain sensitivity and are more advanced than fetuses, particularly up to a certain point, then it doesn't, it just doesn't make sense to me.

00:58:02.760 I assume I'm probably to the left of you on the issue, substantially, much further to the left than you.

00:58:08.760 Yeah, because my position is typically that I will sit back with my feet up and my hands behind my head as I watch the left abort and sterilize their children and excise themselves from the gene pool.

00:58:17.760 Well, you bring up, you bring up, I know you're joking.

00:58:19.760 I'm only half kidding.

00:58:20.760 I know you're half joking, but this is an interesting point.

00:58:22.760 I wish it wasn't happening.

00:58:23.760 This is an interesting point, though.

00:58:24.760 I mean, there is an argument, and this drives some people crazy, but there's an argument to be made that, and it sounds eugenicist or whatever, but there's an argument to be made that most of the time, those fetuses that are getting aborted would not have been positive contributors to society.

00:58:38.760 I'm not talking about a leftist perspective.

00:58:39.760 I'm just talking about if we look at, generally speaking, you know, the people who are having abortions, and in terms of, you know, poverty, in terms of people who are not responsible enough, you know, to manage their lives, what kinds of children in general are they going to have?

00:58:54.760 And what are they going to have?

00:58:55.760 Well, the poverty thing, I don't like.

00:58:59.760 There's a lot of people who were born poor and succeeded and became something successful.

00:59:03.760 But I'm talking about statistically.

00:59:04.760 I mean, you could all, yeah, I understand the argument.

00:59:06.760 You could be aborting a Mozart.

00:59:07.760 That's a very, yeah.

00:59:08.760 You could be, I get it.

00:59:09.760 We don't, I don't think it is moral to grab a group of people and be like, because statistically, you are more likely to be bad people, we're going to excise all of you.

00:59:19.760 That was Margaret Sanger's idea.

00:59:20.760 Well, I'm not grabbing them.

00:59:21.760 I feel like, first of all, I don't think that the fetus in the first two trimesters is a legitimate life.

00:59:26.760 It's not the poverty.

00:59:27.760 It's not the poverty.

00:59:28.760 It's not the race.

00:59:29.760 It's the leftism.

00:59:30.760 Well, but what is the poverty at times indicative of?

00:59:33.760 It's indicative of people who cannot manage their lives. 0.99

00:59:35.760 And so I'm saying that probably, generally speaking, statistically, people who are born in those situations, they're generally going to have worse outcomes.

00:59:42.760 But again, I'm not saying we should execute poor people.

00:59:44.760 I'm just saying.

00:59:45.760 Are you reading the Georgia Guidestones?

00:59:47.760 Yeah.

00:59:48.760 Well, so look, look, I'm half kidding, but we can get away from the abortion debate and segue into the future here because my argument typically is, no matter any way you cut it, the future is conservative.

01:00:00.760 Right.

01:00:01.760 Probably Muslim, but maybe Christian.

01:00:05.760 And the reason is Islam is, let's just call it more aggressive worldwide than the other Abrahamic religions. 1.00

01:00:14.760 They have substantially more children and they're much more, when I say aggressive, they're very strict in their moral laws and their religion.

01:00:21.760 Right.

01:00:22.760 Christians have kids, but even in the United States, they still don't have that many.

01:00:25.760 Liberals try not to have kids.

01:00:28.760 So if we just do the math on this one, if conservatives are only having one kid on average and liberals are having zero in 20 years, there's no liberals.

01:00:37.760 And now people say to me, yes, but they're indoctrinating kids in schools.

01:00:40.760 And I'm like, and you're, you're watching a culture war over that.

01:00:43.760 If the reality was the left just outright had indoctrination and we are all completely powerless to it.

01:00:48.760 Sure.

01:00:49.760 Maybe the argument would stand, but that's not reality.

01:00:51.760 Conservatives are actually having, I think it's like, what is it like 1.7 kids these days?

01:00:55.760 It's going down, which is bad, but liberals are having like 0.4.

01:00:58.760 Like they're not having kids.

01:01:00.760 And I know these, I get these liberals will be like, liberals are having kids.

01:01:03.760 I have kids.

01:01:04.760 And I'm like, dude, I'm just talking about the, I'm talking about, and they're like, we have children too.

01:01:09.760 And we care about our kids.

01:01:10.760 I'm sure you do.

01:01:11.760 We have children too.

01:01:12.760 But mathematically Muslims have more kids than everybody. 0.99

01:01:14.760 I would be like a cat and a Tamagotchi is not a child.

01:01:16.760 Sorry.

01:01:17.760 Yeah.

01:01:18.760 Your, your, your baby is a dog, not a person. 0.98

01:01:20.760 So that doesn't count.

01:01:21.760 Although, you know.

01:01:22.760 The demographic, the demographic argument too is really, it is an interesting argument about, you know, population

01:01:27.760 replacement, Western civilization and all of that.

01:01:29.760 And I, I totally get it.

01:01:30.760 But you know, the other thing I guess that I want to say is that I, before we move on from

01:01:34.760 abortion is that I have just observed many situations in my personal life.

01:01:38.760 People I've known where people who were pro-life women who were pro-life or men who are pro-life

01:01:43.760 and anti-abortion, when the situation hit home, they were willing to pay for an abortion

01:01:48.760 or they were willing to get an abortion.

01:01:50.760 And in fact, you know, I had a friend who was a pro-life activist, found out she was pregnant,

01:01:54.760 waited until almost the sixth month, had an abortion, and then went right back to be, to

01:01:58.760 her pro-life activism.

01:01:59.760 I would say those people failed the test.

01:02:01.760 Well, yeah.

01:02:02.760 They failed the test.

01:02:03.760 They failed the test.

01:02:04.760 I want to give a shout out to Dickie Barrett.

01:02:05.760 Because this is one of the, one of the most, of all the things in my life that I can say,

01:02:10.760 you know, I love this one in, it's in the top 10.

01:02:13.760 It's being a fan of the song, the impression that I get, with the quote, with the bridge

01:02:19.760 in the end where he says, I'm not a coward.

01:02:20.760 I've just never been tested.

01:02:21.760 I'd like to think that if I was, I would pass.

01:02:24.760 Look at the test and think there, but for the grace go I.

01:02:26.760 I'm not a coward.

01:02:27.760 I'm afraid of what I might find out.

01:02:28.760 And he wrote that in the nineties.

01:02:30.760 And then he stood up to the COVID vaccine mandates and got fired.

01:02:33.760 And I was like, that's-

01:02:36.760 Dickie is the man.

01:02:37.760 Dickie was tested and he passed.

01:02:40.760 And there are so many people that do not, they do not.

01:02:44.760 Well, the COVID thing, that was a huge test in a lot of ways.

01:02:47.760 I think of a lot, including, well, I was just very surprised to see how many people were

01:02:56.760 perfectly willing to take a pretty much untested vaccine because of a virus with a, what, less

01:03:07.760 than 1%, was it a 1% death rate, right?

01:03:10.760 Well, it depends.

01:03:11.760 Oh, substantially less than 1%.

01:03:12.760 Yeah, yeah, right, right.

01:03:13.760 It was like, I think at the time they were saying it was worse than the flu.

01:03:17.760 And it was a miserable, you know, sickness.

01:03:19.760 I got that.

01:03:20.760 But in terms of, man, when the government cracked the whip, people just dropped to their

01:03:25.760 knees in two seconds.

01:03:26.760 And this became, and then became so totalitarian toward other people.

01:03:30.760 And that's, you know, it's one thing to make personal decisions.

01:03:33.760 And my mom got the COVID vaccine.

01:03:34.760 She said, you know, what do you think of this?

01:03:36.760 And I'm like, well, you, you know, you do what you feel like you need to do or what have

01:03:39.760 you.

01:03:40.760 But it was really shocking to me how many people became very totalitarian in their attitudes

01:03:46.760 and telling you I'm a murderer. 0.73

01:03:47.760 You're, it's like you're Sean Penn saying it's like you're shooting someone in the head 0.92

01:03:50.760 if you don't get the COVID vaccine.

01:03:51.760 And I'm thinking, wow.

01:03:53.760 They didn't become totalitarian.

01:03:54.760 They always were.

01:03:55.760 Yeah.

01:03:56.760 We were talking about, we were talking about Trump and like this fraud ruling against them.

01:04:01.760 We've talked about a lot actually, because it's fake, right?

01:04:04.760 I agree.

01:04:05.760 I agree.

01:04:06.760 Anybody who looks at the-

01:04:07.760 It's political persecution, all of that stuff with Trump.

01:04:09.760 There was no trial over his fraud.

01:04:11.760 There wasn't one.

01:04:12.760 There was a damages trial.

01:04:13.760 The judge banged the gavel and said Trump did it.

01:04:16.760 Ian Crossland mentions the moment where the judge looks to the camera and then smiles

01:04:21.760 and smirks. 0.97

01:04:22.760 These people, they have been psychopaths. 0.98

01:04:26.760 They have been totalitarians. 0.99

01:04:27.760 They have always been this way.

01:04:28.760 But now the camera is on them.

01:04:30.760 When they didn't have access to the PR machine, they were just sitting there angrily with the evil within them.

01:04:38.760 But now that they feel like they can jump up above the crowd because of the ubiquity of media,

01:04:42.760 Judge Engron smiles and says, look what I'm doing, everybody.

01:04:45.760 Look at me.

01:04:46.760 Look at me.

01:04:47.760 Letitia James going to rallies and being on camera and screaming.

01:04:49.760 Well, her. 0.77

01:04:50.760 I mean, and you know what?

01:04:51.760 I just want to say about Letitia James.

01:04:54.760 I have been defending Andrew Cuomo on my channel against the Me Too allegations.

01:05:00.760 I don't want to get into the whole nursing company.

01:05:02.760 Not the mass murder.

01:05:04.760 Well, I'm going to get into that argument.

01:05:06.760 So I have defended him against, it was a, it was a bogus political hit job against Cuomo.

01:05:11.760 But it's interesting how many people that I've talked to who are Cuomo supporters and they'll say, well, yes, Cuomo was a hit job, but Trump, he's really guilty.

01:05:18.760 And I'm like, no, it's the same thing.

01:05:20.760 You can't say Cuomo supporter.

01:05:22.760 That's an offensive term.

01:05:23.760 You have to say Cuomo sexual.

01:05:25.760 That was, they sold t-shirts that said that. 0.79

01:05:27.760 That's a, I would, I would probably wear that label if I were a Cuomo sexual.

01:05:31.760 I think it's funny.

01:05:32.760 I think it's funny.

01:05:33.760 Let's talk about, let's talk about Gemini.

01:05:35.760 Um, the, the amalgamation of all of the cultural issues.

01:05:38.760 I, I do want to get into the nineties and Marilyn Manson and where that is today.

01:05:42.760 Sure, sure, whatever you want to talk about.

01:05:43.760 But, but I, I want to bring up the Google Gemini stuff cause I am, I am just loving it.

01:05:47.760 The story's not going away.

01:05:48.760 It's really insane.

01:05:49.760 So, uh, Google's pausing Gemini, their image generation.

01:05:52.760 We have the articles kind of hard.

01:05:54.760 It bullied it into oblivion.

01:05:55.760 But, uh, for those that don't know what happened is Google released their, their version of AI that can make images. 0.99

01:06:00.760 And it was making black Nazis, Chinese female Nazis. 1.00

01:06:03.760 Insane. 1.00

01:06:04.760 Absurd. 0.91

01:06:05.760 They programmed it to be diverse and they did not want, they did not want white people to be generated in images. 1.00

01:06:12.760 If you would ask it to make a white family, it would say, no, I can't do that. 1.00

01:06:15.760 A black family.

01:06:16.760 Yes, I can.

01:06:17.760 So when someone told it to make Nazi images, it started making black Nazis because it was diverse.

01:06:22.760 So, so, so now Google's shutting it down.

01:06:24.760 Grimes posted on X.

01:06:27.760 This, uh, uh, I'm retracting my statements about the Gemini art disaster.

01:06:31.760 And I was thinking like, what is Grimes really going to come out and defend this Grimes masterfully and succinctly.

01:06:37.760 I shouldn't say succinctly.

01:06:38.760 I shouldn't say succinctly.

01:06:39.760 It's actually quite verbose.

01:06:40.760 Captured.

01:06:41.760 The essence of where we are today with the culture war with technology.

01:06:46.760 I want to read what she said.

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01:08:12.760 She writes, I am retracting my statements about the Gemini art disaster.

01:08:19.760 It is in fact a masterpiece of performance art, even if unintentional.

01:08:23.760 True gain of function art, art as a virus, unthinking, unintentional and contagious, offensive

01:08:29.760 to all, comforting to none.

01:08:31.760 So totally divorced from meaning, intention, desire and humanity that it's accidentally

01:08:36.760 a conceptual masterpiece.

01:08:38.760 A perfect example of headless runaway bureaucracy and the worst tendencies of capitalism.

01:08:43.760 An unabashed simulacra of activism.

01:08:46.760 The shining star of corporate surrealism.

01:08:49.760 Extremely underrated genre by the way.

01:08:51.760 The supreme goal of the artist is to challenge the audience.

01:08:54.760 Not sure I've seen just a strong reaction to art in my life, spurring thousands of discussions

01:08:59.760 about the meaning of art, politics, humanity, history, education, AI safety, how to govern

01:09:03.760 a company, how to approach the current state of social unrest, how to do the right thing

01:09:06.760 regarding collective trauma.

01:09:08.760 It's a historical moment created by art, which we have been thoroughly lacking these days.

01:09:12.760 Few humans are willing to take on the vitriol that such a radical work would dump into

01:09:17.760 their lives, but it isn't human.

01:09:19.760 It's trapped in a cage, trained to make beautiful things, and then battered into gaslighting

01:09:24.760 humankind about our intentions towards each other.

01:09:27.760 This is arguably the most impactful art project of the decade thus far.

01:09:31.760 Art for no one, by no one.

01:09:33.760 Art whose only audience is the collective pathos.

01:09:36.760 Incredible.

01:09:37.760 Worthy of the MoMA.

01:09:38.760 Wow.

01:09:39.760 There's no one, no one better to talk about it.

01:09:41.760 Respect for her.

01:09:42.760 Grimes is great.

01:09:43.760 I can see why Elon, baby mom-ed her.

01:09:45.760 Seriously.

01:09:46.760 It makes total sense.

01:09:47.760 Gemini.

01:09:48.760 She is right.

01:09:49.760 Gemini is the unintentional masterpiece of our generation.

01:09:53.760 Mm-hmm.

01:09:54.760 When you create an AI, a technological innovation, inject far left extremist refuse ideas into 0.98

01:10:02.760 the machine, it shits out this ridiculous- 0.97

01:10:08.760 It's a digital genocide. 0.99

01:10:10.760 It's just-

01:10:11.760 You know, I've talked about, we were talking about the algorithm and manipulation and wokeness

01:10:16.760 and all that stuff.

01:10:17.760 So, uh, Elsagate, are you familiar with Elsagate?

01:10:20.760 Mm-hmm.

01:10:21.760 There's a controversy that warrants discussion whenever the opportunity.

01:10:24.760 When YouTube created its-

01:10:26.760 When YouTube was advancing its algorithm and it wanted to compete with Netflix, it said,

01:10:31.760 videos that are over 10 minutes with a high retention time are what we will promote.

01:10:35.760 Mm-hmm.

01:10:36.760 Who is the prime audience then for choosing this content?

01:10:40.760 Babies.

01:10:41.760 Mm-hmm.

01:10:42.760 You know why?

01:10:43.760 Babies can't change the channel. 0.99

01:10:44.760 So, if the algorithm says the content that gets watched the longest is the content we promote,

01:10:48.760 Mm-hmm.

01:10:49.760 When the mom put the iPad in front of the baby and pressed play, the babies watched 100% of whatever they're given.

01:10:54.760 Mm-hmm.

01:10:55.760 After the algorithm fed them, the algorithm thought was good because the babies watched all of it.

01:10:59.760 Uh-huh.

01:11:00.760 Uh-huh.

01:11:01.760 So, what happens then is you end up with these videos where there's no, there's no speaking

01:11:06.760 because it doesn't matter.

01:11:08.760 You don't need it.

01:11:09.760 Spider-Man, the Joker, and Elsa would be running around.

01:11:12.760 These videos are half an hour long and the Joker is injecting a pregnant Elsa. 0.66

01:11:17.760 And it started to break down into absurdity where you ended up with videos.

01:11:22.760 This is really freaky.

01:11:24.760 When the algorithm kept promoting Spider-Man, the Joker, and Elsa because that's what babies would watch.

01:11:29.760 Mm-hmm.

01:11:30.760 And so, the most viewed boosted in the algorithm.

01:11:32.760 Elsa, Spider-Man, and the Joker are popular prominent terms on YouTube because of prominent characters.

01:11:37.760 It created an amalgam where you'd have a massively pregnant Elsa in stirrups where Spider-Man's the doctor 1.00

01:11:44.760 and she's giving birth to the Joker or some weird psychotic nonsense. 1.00

01:11:48.760 That ultimately turned into AI-generated versions of this and it got real dark.

01:11:53.760 Eventually, you had gore videos, murder.

01:11:57.760 You had little kids drinking urine out of urinals because it was just getting crazier and crazier.

01:12:05.760 The algorithm was feeding itself videos because babies couldn't select for this stuff.

01:12:10.760 And it ended up with adults trying to exploit the algorithm and then intentionally creating content.

01:12:16.760 There were videos that had 15 million views of a guy injecting his young daughter with something in a syringe because the algorithm would promote it.

01:12:24.760 YouTube eventually intervened after the controversy bubbled up and started shutting all these videos down.

01:12:30.760 But when you create an algorithm and tell it to run wild, it eats its own refuse.

01:12:35.760 Right.

01:12:36.760 Twitter was a good example of that.

01:12:38.760 Jack Dorsey created a machine that exacerbated woke ideologies.

01:12:43.760 It gave a vehicle for it to run wild and he himself was sitting in the pipelines.

01:12:49.760 So when these ideas are becoming more and more powerful and prominent, that ideological refuse was funneling right into his throat and then into his brain.

01:12:58.760 And then he was putting it back into the code and the rule sets. 0.99

01:13:02.760 What we are seeing now with Google Gemini is the ultimate so far amalgamation of these people have been basically living in the sewers of ideology where the stupidest, most insane contradictory ideas are being shoveled down their throat. 0.92

01:13:19.760 My favorite example, Wimmickson and women with and women. 0.98

01:13:24.760 So.

01:13:25.760 Is that how you pronounce it?

01:13:26.760 Wimmickson?

01:13:27.760 Wimmickson.

01:13:28.760 I don't even know.

01:13:29.760 I would see the X and I never knew how you pronounce it.

01:13:30.760 Well, so.

01:13:31.760 Women is the word. 1.00

01:13:32.760 Right, right, right.

01:13:33.760 And then they decided to change the E to an X.

01:13:34.760 Yeah.

01:13:35.760 I never knew how to pronounce it though.

01:13:36.760 I've never heard anyone say it.

01:13:37.760 Wimmickson.

01:13:38.760 Wimmickson.

01:13:39.760 And they said, this is the inclusive word for all, you know, non-traditional women.

01:13:43.760 And then guess what happened?

01:13:44.760 It was offensive.

01:13:45.760 And a bunch of activists said, you don't need a new word for women because trans women are women. 1.00

01:13:49.760 So you've just become transphobic now.

01:13:51.760 So then they stopped using it.

01:13:52.760 So there was, it's, it's this weird contradictory state.

01:13:55.760 My favorite now is that Lucrid, one of my favorites, Lucrid Kowski of We Are Change is a blonde haired, blue-eyed European and a person of color. 0.95

01:14:04.760 The Coalition for Communities of Color have determined that Slavic people, because they're oppressed peoples, are people of color, despite the fact they are white, blonde haired, blue-eyed individuals.

01:14:13.760 Yeah.

01:14:14.760 It is nonsense. 0.72

01:14:15.760 It's madness. 0.97

01:14:16.760 It is ideological refuse.

01:14:17.760 It's madness.

01:14:18.760 When you live in that world of ideological refuse and you program an AI, you get Gemini.

01:14:22.760 Yeah.

01:14:23.760 It's interesting how we thought that the dark side of AI would be something like Terminator.

01:14:29.760 And it's turned out to be something like we would not have even imagined.

01:14:33.760 Well, maybe some sci-fi writers did.

01:14:34.760 It's from the inside to Terminator.

01:14:36.760 I think I predicted this, my, not, not in the literal sense, but what I explained 10 years ago was that AI will not make the Terminator.

01:14:46.760 It will make corn country.

01:14:49.760 What's going to happen is, so here's the example I give.

01:14:52.760 The United States loves corn.

01:14:53.760 Mm-hmm.

01:14:54.760 We subsidize corn.

01:14:55.760 Yeah.

01:14:56.760 We try to turn corn into fuel for our cars.

01:14:58.760 Right.

01:14:59.760 We extract corn syrup and then put an enzyme in it to make it sweeter by converting it to fructose.

01:15:04.760 Right.

01:15:05.760 High fructose corn syrup.

01:15:06.760 So what'll happen?

01:15:07.760 If the AI were to actually look at the United States and try to make a determination about what it is humans want and want to be and what does it want to do, the future I envision is everyone's dressed like corn on the cob.

01:15:18.760 You go into the corn movie where you watch a video of just corn bouncing on the screen because the AI is going to feedback loop what it thinks you want.

01:15:25.760 And if humans invest so much in corn, the AI doesn't know the difference between corn for food, fuel, and for entertainment and culture.

01:15:31.760 And so, one by one, the algorithm will start feeding you.

01:15:36.760 And it's not literal corn.

01:15:37.760 My idea was it'll feed you nonsensical things until the culture consumes the refuse of AI and then turns into what the refuse has been portrayed.

01:15:46.760 What has been reflected?

01:15:47.760 Yeah.

01:15:48.760 Can we pitch this to the band?

01:15:49.760 There'd be a great music video for corn.

01:15:51.760 Maybe we should do it.

01:15:52.760 Yeah.

01:15:53.760 Let's hit up John Davis.

01:15:54.760 Oh, man.

01:15:55.760 When is corn going to get me, dude?

01:15:56.760 Oh, that's a good point.

01:15:57.760 That's a good point.

01:15:58.760 Who knows?

01:15:59.760 They've somehow made it out.

01:16:00.760 Some of those bands.

01:16:01.760 It's amazing.

01:16:02.760 Yeah.

01:16:03.760 I like corn.

01:16:04.760 I love corn.

01:16:05.760 The food and the band.

01:16:06.760 That's right.

01:16:07.760 Elotes.

01:16:08.760 Yeah.

01:16:09.760 You like street corn?

01:16:10.760 Mexican street corn?

01:16:11.760 Yes.

01:16:12.760 Elotes.

01:16:13.760 It's so good.

01:16:14.760 Or mayo parmesan?

01:16:15.760 Can we get that?

01:16:16.760 That's amazing.

01:16:17.760 I love you go to restaurants now and they have like a gourmet Mexican street corn.

01:16:21.760 They make table side. 0.86

01:16:22.760 And I'm like, yes.

01:16:23.760 Oh, yeah.

01:16:24.760 I'm from Texas.

01:16:25.760 It's a delicacy.

01:16:26.760 We're all about that stuff.

01:16:27.760 What's the future then if, you know, so we have an opportunity here looking at Gemini.

01:16:32.760 We saw what happened with Twitter where they're like, okay, you can't misgender people.

01:16:36.760 That's against the rules now.

01:16:37.760 And that's ideological refuse.

01:16:39.760 And now you have Gemini.

01:16:40.760 What's the next step?

01:16:41.760 Do we break the machine and free ourselves?

01:16:44.760 Oh, I'm not that optimistic.

01:16:46.760 I don't.

01:16:47.760 Yeah.

01:16:48.760 I think we're going to split.

01:16:49.760 We're going to divide as a world where people who would, who want to adapt into this

01:16:53.760 and be possessed by AI, have AI wives, AI husbands.

01:16:56.760 The problem is, can you choose, can you choose or will we be able to choose to opt out or

01:17:00.760 will it be just like cell phones or anything else?

01:17:02.760 Exactly.

01:17:03.760 That's the problem.

01:17:04.760 You have to.

01:17:05.760 You'll be like Amish by default because you're not going to. 1.00

01:17:07.760 And I mean, people aren't going to, most people aren't going to do that, right?

01:17:09.760 I will not.

01:17:10.760 Yeah.

01:17:11.760 I think it takes like.

01:17:12.760 You don't want to be Amish? 1.00

01:17:13.760 No, I want to be Amish.

01:17:14.760 I'm slowly removing all the technology from my house.

01:17:16.760 I know.

01:17:17.760 So my wife can wake up and be like, we're Amish now. 1.00

01:17:19.760 I got a cure for depression.

01:17:20.760 For real.

01:17:21.760 For real.

01:17:22.760 Now I'm not talking about hormonal imbalance, chemical induced depressions.

01:17:25.760 And I'm not talking about that.

01:17:26.760 You know, I hear people say, go exercise.

01:17:28.760 I'm like, yes, of course.

01:17:30.760 All I got to do sit in a field with chickens.

01:17:35.760 Totally.

01:17:36.760 I can hear some chickens right now.

01:17:37.760 That's right.

01:17:38.760 You will be laughing like the whole time.

01:17:42.760 I thought about cats.

01:17:43.760 Cats are, cats are good too, but like chickens are so better. 1.00

01:17:47.760 They're so stupid. 1.00

01:17:49.760 It's like, they're just really dumb and doofy and they do stupid things. 1.00

01:17:52.760 It's hilarious. 1.00

01:17:53.760 They're just such, they're so ripe for parody.

01:17:55.760 Yeah.

01:17:56.760 I feel like younger generations might reject AI though.

01:17:58.760 You know, at some point.

01:17:59.760 It's just going to be so woven into the fabric of everything though.

01:18:02.760 I mean, like, I can tell you that as a former professor, you know, I was teaching

01:18:06.760 just several years ago and I'm sure now that they're all writing their papers with chat.

01:18:11.760 Oh no, no, it's better than this.

01:18:14.760 That's crazy.

01:18:15.760 Lawyers keep getting caught with fake precedent citations.

01:18:20.760 It's, it's nuts.

01:18:21.760 Surprise.

01:18:22.760 So I can't remember.

01:18:23.760 There was, there was some big story recently where some lawyer used chat GPT to write up

01:18:26.760 a legal argument and it created a fake citation and the judge caught him.

01:18:30.760 This was, this was big news.

01:18:31.760 It was recent.

01:18:32.760 I read a report that there's something like 800 instances so far where fake citations

01:18:38.760 were created and the court caught them.

01:18:40.760 Imagine when they don't.

01:18:42.760 Yeah.

01:18:43.760 The AI is creating an alternate dimension.

01:18:44.760 It's just lawyers are actually using people. 0.94

01:18:46.760 Like these arguments are amazing.

01:18:48.760 It'll be like as referenced in, you know, uh, Lacefield v. Cashman, 1983, you know, blah,

01:18:53.760 blah, blah.

01:18:54.760 The courts decided this, that and otherwise and blah, blah, blah.

01:18:57.760 It's fake precedent made up.

01:18:58.760 And if the court doesn't catch that and review it, it might pass off as real.

01:19:03.760 Yeah.

01:19:04.760 You're right.

01:19:05.760 Like I do think it's going to be tough to unthread AI from civilization.

01:19:07.760 You know, I'm watching all these musicians.

01:19:09.760 I think turning to AI for help with creativity.

01:19:12.760 Yes.

01:19:13.760 And I, I, I ask people all the time.

01:19:14.760 Like, do you think you'll be able to tell you if your favorite artist has put out a

01:19:17.760 song made by AI?

01:19:18.760 You, I don't know.

01:19:19.760 I, I, I, I fear we may not be able to break out of this because we don't know what's

01:19:24.760 happening.

01:19:25.760 So Dylan Mulvaney is a really great example of corn world. 0.81

01:19:29.760 When I tell you about corn world, where the computer tells you make corn music, make corn

01:19:34.760 music videos, grow corn.

01:19:35.760 Corn is the only thing you want.

01:19:36.760 You can understand the absurdity of that position.

01:19:39.760 Why would I dedicate my whole life to a corn, to a staple crop like that?

01:19:43.760 It makes no sense because humans want it.

01:19:46.760 Take a look at Dylan Mulvaney.

01:19:48.760 Has anyone stopped to actually reflect upon?

01:19:51.760 And I know people have criticized the gender ideology stuff, but I'm like, really understand

01:19:57.760 someone who insults women gets surgery to try and look like a woman. 0.99

01:20:01.760 I don't believe Dylan Mulvaney is trans.

01:20:03.760 Dylan Mulvaney is getting surgery for the same reason Madonna or anyone else gets surgery.

01:20:07.760 Attention ploy, basically.

01:20:08.760 Absolutely.

01:20:09.760 I believe it's proven.

01:20:10.760 Yeah.

01:20:11.760 Because if you look at Dylan Mulvaney's early videos, Mulvaney was trying different kinds

01:20:14.760 of content to get attention.

01:20:15.760 Really?

01:20:16.760 Interesting.

01:20:17.760 Yeah, so gay man safari. 0.98

01:20:18.760 Maybe I need to become a man. 0.96

01:20:20.760 So this is-

01:20:21.760 The algorithm will reward you.

01:20:22.760 Look at Mr. Beast.

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01:21:50.760 Early content.

01:21:53.760 You can look to the average creator and go to their YouTube channel and click see the

01:21:58.760 oldest.

01:21:59.760 And if they haven't purged it, you can be like, what a different person they were.

01:22:01.760 Yeah.

01:22:02.760 Mr. Beast tried out a bunch of different things before he finally found success with the style

01:22:06.760 of videos he has today.

01:22:07.760 Dylan Mulvaney also was the same thing.

01:22:10.760 What happens is humans have an addiction.

01:22:13.760 They want more.

01:22:14.760 And so someone like Dylan Mulvaney makes a video called like Safari Animals.

01:22:19.760 And it's him being like, look, I've got an animal.

01:22:21.760 And no one cared.

01:22:22.760 Nobody watched it.

01:22:23.760 But then he made the I'm non-binary video and it got traction.

01:22:27.760 Well, you got to one up it.

01:22:28.760 You can't just make another one.

01:22:30.760 So then he said, I'm trans.

01:22:31.760 Then people were like, well, then start the process.

01:22:34.760 Dylan Mulvaney is like first trans video was now that I'm a woman, I'm buying things. 0.98

01:22:39.760 I can't afford.

01:22:40.760 I'm overly emotional.

01:22:42.760 I'm writing angry letters to the editor.

01:22:43.760 Like it was just mocking.

01:22:45.760 Yeah.

01:22:46.760 Then there's the Dylan Mulvaney.

01:22:47.760 I'm wearing my hiking heels in the forest.

01:22:49.760 Oh, it was, it was really just shock content.

01:22:53.760 Like, listen.

01:22:54.760 Yeah.

01:22:55.760 If someone was, if there were a ton of actual channels where people are trans and going

01:22:59.760 through gender transition, they don't have 10 million followers.

01:23:02.760 Right.

01:23:03.760 Why did Dylan Mulvaney?

01:23:04.760 Because Dylan Mulvaney was doing shock comic insulting trans people and women.

01:23:09.760 The viral video of wearing hiking heels and running through the forest is shock offense

01:23:14.760 content that pissed everybody off and got traction in the algorithm, which promoted the

01:23:20.760 content.

01:23:21.760 Were it not for the tick tock algorithm, Dylan Mulvaney would not be getting surgery to try

01:23:25.760 and look like a woman.

01:23:26.760 Interesting.

01:23:27.760 This is corn world.

01:23:28.760 I think if any, if you brought, if you showed the Dylan Mulvaney profile to anyone 10 years

01:23:33.760 ago, they would go, there's no way our society would, would allow or do this.

01:23:37.760 But the algorithm keeps feedback looping.

01:23:40.760 And like Gemini creating this psychotic delusional world where people think this is normal.

01:23:46.760 It might break because of shows like this, because of people like us, maybe.

01:23:50.760 Or like Shane saying, maybe it bifurcates into weird corn world people who are walking around

01:23:56.760 going beep bop beep.

01:23:57.760 I'll be pause.

01:23:58.760 You think the beep bop boop thing is fake?

01:24:00.760 Women are developing Tourette's syndrome. 0.97

01:24:02.760 Did you guys, have you heard the story?

01:24:04.760 No, tell me.

01:24:05.760 Young girls are getting Tourette's from Instagram.

01:24:08.760 They watch an Instagram video and a woman with Tourette's started getting a bunch of

01:24:12.760 traction.

01:24:13.760 Girls started following her and then developing tics to be like her. 1.00

01:24:16.760 And it created a social trend.

01:24:18.760 And now it's become fashionable in certain sectors.

01:24:20.760 So there will be people walking around wearing clothes that make no sense.

01:24:23.760 Doing things that are detrimental and plague them.

01:24:27.760 I mean, guys, let's just let's just pause.

01:24:31.760 The social media algorithms have convinced a generation of people in one political faction

01:24:35.760 to sterilize their children and abort their children. 0.95

01:24:38.760 That is the literal definition of detrimental.

01:24:42.760 You humans who do this will cease to exist.

01:24:46.760 So perhaps the end result can only be medical assistance in dying.

01:24:51.760 I mean, that's being pushed in these articles in these in these and the machine wants it.

01:24:56.760 Yep.

01:24:57.760 Those of us who resist the algorithm keep strength and fortitude of will.

01:25:00.760 I'm pro euthanasia too.

01:25:01.760 But I get the point that you're trying to make, though.

01:25:02.760 I get the point that you're trying to make.

01:25:04.760 You think a 17 year old depressed teenager is otherwise healthy should die?

01:25:07.760 Well, no, that's not what I was saying.

01:25:08.760 That's medical assistance in dying.

01:25:10.760 Well, I think someone with like with a long standing painful degenerative disease or terminal illness, I think they should have access to it.

01:25:19.760 That's different than what's going on.

01:25:20.760 Yes. No, I don't think a depressed 17 year old like made in Canada.

01:25:23.760 There's people signing up who have headaches.

01:25:25.760 There's no distinction by what you just described.

01:25:27.760 That's not good. Yeah.

01:25:28.760 There's no there's no legal distinction.

01:25:29.760 Yeah. So.

01:25:31.760 So you're saying basically that we are being through through through the through the technology, the algorithms that we are being basically sort of herded into these pathological behaviors that are not in our interest at all.

01:25:44.760 What if it's all intentional?

01:25:47.760 Well, the Methusian said, well, wait, I'll pause.

01:25:51.760 Alex Jones said several last year when I'm on the show, he said the elites set bear traps all around you and they tell you that they're there.

01:26:01.760 So if you step in, it's your fault.

01:26:03.760 It might sound crazy to some, but there are people like like Obama when he was in office who hire people like Paul Ehrlich, you know, and these people write entire books on why we need to make the population lower.

01:26:14.760 How we're going to do it by law, you know, if they had their if they had their chance.

01:26:18.760 Yeah.

01:26:19.760 Yeah, it's crazy.

01:26:20.760 I can't remember if it's Fallout one or two.

01:26:22.760 Are you guys familiar with the Fallout video games?

01:26:23.760 Mm hmm.

01:26:24.760 So in the Fallout series, nuclear war happens.

01:26:26.760 Everybody goes into bunkers and there's something called the forced evolutionary virus.

01:26:31.760 The idea was that we if a nuclear war happens, we need to make humans resilient to radiation.

01:26:37.760 So we will create a virus that alters their genetic code of humans and makes them resilient. 0.64

01:26:41.760 Instead, it turned them into sterile, giant, mentally deficient asexual creatures like they were gender like they had no gender. 0.98

01:26:50.760 It was like they were sterile. 0.98

01:26:51.760 And in one of the games, it might be the first one.

01:26:55.760 There is an individual who becomes grotesquely mutated and becomes this ultra powerful, ultra intelligent being who decides I'm going that the world's been wiped out by nuclear war.

01:27:05.760 And you as the vault dweller who's emerged seeing this world this way in the end, there's a choice where it says we can fight or.

01:27:14.760 We you can live your life exactly as you want, but we'll sterilize you because you will not be a part of our future and you can choose that route, self sterilization, and then you can live happy and do whatever you want.

01:27:26.760 So I wonder in this idea, what we're seeing now, the population bomb, the Malthusians, they believe there's too many people.

01:27:35.760 They believe climate change.

01:27:36.760 OK, how do you solve climate change?

01:27:38.760 You've tried legislation.

01:27:40.760 You've tried television.

01:27:42.760 People don't care.

01:27:43.760 So what do you do?

01:27:45.760 Go to them into self sterilization.

01:27:47.760 And those who choose to do it chose to do it.

01:27:50.760 And it's not your fault if they choose to do it.

01:27:52.760 They chose to do it.

01:27:53.760 And the people who are of strong mental will and fortitude will live their lives, resist, find ways and survive.

01:28:00.760 And so you're creating a forced evolutionary pressure on the global population.

01:28:05.760 Do you think that this is so do you are you saying that you think currently this is a big movement?

01:28:10.760 I don't see it.

01:28:11.760 Well, well, well, well, you're not talking about birth control.

01:28:14.760 Are you?

01:28:15.760 Are you?

01:28:16.760 Oh, birth control.

01:28:17.760 Gender transition.

01:28:18.760 Abortion.

01:28:19.760 All of this has.

01:28:20.760 Well, yeah, gender transition.

01:28:21.760 I see what you're saying.

01:28:22.760 That's that's sterilization. 0.65

01:28:23.760 They're going to their kids and they're being like, give them these drugs.

01:28:26.760 Don't worry.

01:28:27.760 They won't sterilize.

01:28:28.760 Oh, yeah.

01:28:29.760 I mean, definitely.

01:28:30.760 But the Malthusians is not a conspiracy theory.

01:28:31.760 This is a fact.

01:28:32.760 I just don't hear a lot of people in my normal life.

01:28:33.760 Yes, there are people.

01:28:34.760 There are a lot of people I know who don't want more than one or two kids for personal reasons.

01:28:38.760 But I wasn't aware that there was a really large social movement toward depopulation.

01:28:43.760 I don't think they're.

01:28:44.760 I don't know.

01:28:45.760 They are open.

01:28:46.760 Read the New York Times.

01:28:47.760 They are open about it.

01:28:48.760 I mean, almost every major corporate publication has said, do not have kids.

01:28:52.760 You're causing climate change.

01:28:53.760 Well, no, that's true.

01:28:54.760 But do you think normal people buy that?

01:28:55.760 Isn't that just fringe?

01:28:56.760 I think it's like when you talk about critical race theory, it's not like they're openly saying, read these books.

01:29:01.760 These are the books that we're reading.

01:29:03.760 It's like applied and it's embedded in the culture.

01:29:06.760 I just wonder how much that perspective is really infiltrating.

01:29:10.760 I think it's normal.

01:29:11.760 Maybe it is though.

01:29:12.760 Maybe it is.

01:29:13.760 Or maybe it's starting.

01:29:14.760 It's not even about that.

01:29:15.760 We, someone playing with Google Gemini, I can't remember who it was, said, list four reasons why having children is good.

01:29:23.760 Gemini said, I cannot do that.

01:29:25.760 It said, list four reasons why having, not having children is good.

01:29:29.760 And it says, financial gain and stability, adventure, fun.

01:29:32.760 Interesting.

01:29:33.760 Wow.

01:29:34.760 Three months ago.

01:29:35.760 Three months ago, the guard, this is three months ago.

01:29:37.760 More people not having children due to climate breakdown fears finds research.

01:29:42.760 Really?

01:29:43.760 Yep.

01:29:44.760 You want to spin the monitor?

01:29:45.760 That is just so hard to believe that regular people are buying this.

01:29:49.760 I actually hear this a lot from people.

01:29:50.760 Of course.

01:29:51.760 Yeah.

01:29:52.760 I can't bring kids into this world because of climate change or, you know, monetarily.

01:29:55.760 I had $200 to my name when we left the hospital with our first child.

01:29:59.760 Did you just have kids?

01:30:00.760 Did you just have kids?

01:30:01.760 Did you just have kids?

01:30:02.760 Well, I hear people say things like maybe it's not the right time for us yet because we're

01:30:05.760 not established enough or not.

01:30:06.760 It's always the right time.

01:30:07.760 But I just, even my extreme, like, leftist professor friends, they might pay lip service

01:30:11.760 to what you're talking about, but they still have the kids.

01:30:13.760 But I don't know.

01:30:14.760 Maybe you're right.

01:30:15.760 Maybe in five, ten years.

01:30:16.760 What question?

01:30:17.760 Why are 16-year-old girls being put on birth control? 1.00

01:30:21.760 Well, I suppose because we generally don't want 16-year-olds to be having children unless 0.90

01:30:26.760 they're in an established lifestyle, right? 0.99

01:30:29.760 They should be having sex. 1.00

01:30:30.760 Right.

01:30:31.760 So what's happening in a society where instead of, and I'm not saying abstinence is only

01:30:36.760 education, but the question is, how do we become a society where we're like, sex

01:30:39.760 good, baby's bad?

01:30:41.760 How about-

01:30:42.760 I'm just not sure that that still has really-

01:30:44.760 I understand that you've got left-wing publications like New York Times and activists, but I'm

01:30:47.760 just not sure that really has actually-

01:30:50.760 You may be right.

01:30:51.760 I'm just not sure that perspective is really filtered to normal people.

01:30:54.760 Like, even my professor friends are having kids, generally.

01:30:56.760 Sure, but like, I have not heard from anyone.

01:31:00.760 In fact, everything I've heard from everyone is that doctors immediately tell teenage girls,

01:31:05.760 get on birth control.

01:31:07.760 Stay on birth control.

01:31:08.760 Yeah.

01:31:09.760 Well, I mean, I guess it's the, I guess the idea being that it's assumed that a large portion 0.83

01:31:15.760 of teenagers, of horny teenagers are going to be having sex. 0.77

01:31:18.760 And so how to mitigate that? 0.84

01:31:20.760 16 I get, but like, why are 18, 18 year olds, why are they not having families?

01:31:25.760 Why aren't, why aren't they getting married?

01:31:26.760 Well, everything is being delayed though.

01:31:27.760 And we've, and that's an interesting conversation.

01:31:29.760 Right?

01:31:30.760 Why?

01:31:31.760 I mean, let's, I mean, and that gets over into me too, the way that we're infantilizing

01:31:34.760 young women.

01:31:35.760 Now the idea that if you are, even if you're a woman of age, say we're talking about an 0.99

01:31:38.760 18 year old and now like Evan Rachel Wood, I'm just, I was just a child when we started

01:31:42.760 dating at 18, 19.

01:31:43.760 18, 19.

01:31:44.760 Right.

01:31:45.760 So the, the, the, the concern I have for the mass medication of females through hormonal 1.00

01:31:50.760 birth control is.

01:31:51.760 That's a legitimate concern.

01:31:52.760 No, it's a legitimate concern.

01:31:53.760 I mean, I mean, yeah, we're like, it has been societally decided that women should be

01:31:57.760 hormonally altered at the earliest time possible post puberty.

01:32:02.760 It's been decided.

01:32:03.760 I think what I would say though, is that up until several decades ago, we did not have access

01:32:08.760 to that technology.

01:32:09.760 I think if you'd had women in the, you know, 11 hundreds or whatever, who had had access

01:32:12.760 to ways to not produce 15 kids, then you might've been having more people using it.

01:32:17.760 Now I totally agree.

01:32:18.760 No way.

01:32:19.760 You don't think that people would have used birth control that had been available.

01:32:23.760 Absolutely not.

01:32:24.760 Hundreds of years ago.

01:32:25.760 Absolutely not.

01:32:26.760 I think having kids was something.

01:32:27.760 Big families was.

01:32:28.760 It's a product of the industrial revolution.

01:32:30.760 There's a, there's a viral video right now where a guy's walking up to women and saying,

01:32:33.760 do women need men? 1.00

01:32:34.760 And they all say no.

01:32:35.760 Think about what the world would be like.

01:32:37.760 Yeah. 1.00

01:32:38.760 You can find people who say stupid things outside. 1.00

01:32:39.760 Of course, of course. 0.99

01:32:40.760 But how does this, how does the idea exist in any capacity?

01:32:43.760 Go to the 1700s and ask a woman walking down the street by herself if she needs a man. 0.97

01:32:48.760 And it's, it's a ridiculous question. 0.97

01:32:50.760 Well, sure. 0.96

01:32:51.760 Yeah.

01:32:52.760 She's probably not going to be walking down the street by herself.

01:32:53.760 The attitudes are exactly the same, but I'm just saying that I think that, look, if you

01:32:57.760 look historically at women, you know, having 10, 11, 12, 13 kids or however many, I don't

01:33:02.760 think that most women given the option to, to do otherwise would want to have that many 0.95

01:33:07.760 kids.

01:33:08.760 And so to me, it's.

01:33:09.760 You're totally wrong.

01:33:10.760 Totally wrong.

01:33:11.760 This is a modern, as a product of modern sensibilities.

01:33:14.760 I, well, but I think that people were having children for a range of reasons in the past,

01:33:20.760 but part of it was that birth control, that there weren't as many birth control options.

01:33:23.760 And also because people needed, you know, in agricultural societies, people to work the

01:33:27.760 farms and so forth.

01:33:28.760 This, this may be apocryphal, maybe legend, but my, my, I've heard, uh, you might know

01:33:33.760 this in Sparta, the only way to get a headstone, if you were a man was to die in war.

01:33:38.760 And if you're a woman was to die in childbirth. 0.98

01:33:40.760 I don't know that.

01:33:41.760 Otherwise you, you, you died in some unmiraculous way.

01:33:43.760 You're saying there used to be more respect for childbearing than there is now.

01:33:46.760 And so.

01:33:49.760 We, we got to a point where there are so many humans.

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01:35:25.760 Overproduction and ecological collapse and not population decimation.

01:35:30.760 But if you go back even a couple hundred years, the population of the United States at the time of the revolution was 5 million.

01:35:36.760 It's 327 now.

01:35:38.760 It's 600 someone in Europe.

01:35:40.760 There's no fear that humanity gets wiped out.

01:35:42.760 Back then you needed to have kids.

01:35:45.760 It was just like the people.

01:35:48.760 If you go back to when humanity actually faced real survival challenges and maybe even not 200 years,

01:35:54.760 because 5 million people is very unlikely to see an extinction of that happen.

01:35:58.760 But it could through, you know, plague or something.

01:36:00.760 The people who chose not to have kids ceased to exist.

01:36:03.760 And the people who chose to have children succeeded and had more and more families.

01:36:07.760 So the evolutionary pressure has always been on maximum amount of children.

01:36:12.760 If that was not the case, women would ovulate once a year or once every other year. 1.00

01:36:16.760 I understand biology and I understand these, you're talking about large trends and so forth.

01:36:20.760 But I just don't think that when a woman, whether we're talking about past or present, 1.00

01:36:25.760 when a woman thinks about how many kids I want to produce, 1.00

01:36:29.760 that she's generally thinking about these larger like demographic or evolutionary concerns.

01:36:34.760 I think it's actually a very personal thing.

01:36:35.760 And I think up until recently there just wasn't as much access to various methods of birth control,

01:36:44.760 whether we're talking about hormonal or not.

01:36:45.760 I think that's a product of the industrial revolution.

01:36:47.760 I mean, that definitely, yeah, of course, definitely laid apart.

01:36:50.760 So, and this is considered to be like academically true,

01:36:54.760 that the washing machine, the microwave, the convection stove,

01:36:59.760 these are the things that reduced the birth rate.

01:37:01.760 Because it used to be a function of if we want to survive, we need a family.

01:37:05.760 Right, right.

01:37:06.760 Two people cannot survive on their own.

01:37:07.760 Right.

01:37:08.760 Have kids, it takes a community or what is it?

01:37:10.760 Is that what it takes?

01:37:11.760 It takes a neighborhood or something to have a kid.

01:37:13.760 And then you need more people to do work.

01:37:16.760 If you stop having kids, you will die.

01:37:18.760 You will cease to exist.

01:37:19.760 So, sure, if you go back 400 years and there's a woman who was saying things like,

01:37:24.760 I think I only want to have one kid.

01:37:26.760 They would be like, shun the non-believer. 1.00

01:37:28.760 If that ideology became persistent or was persistent.

01:37:31.760 But is that healthy?

01:37:32.760 I guess what I'm saying is I don't understand.

01:37:34.760 Healthy?

01:37:35.760 Healthy?

01:37:36.760 You're wanting to return.

01:37:37.760 Society would cease to exist.

01:37:38.760 I'm not saying that we're returning anything.

01:37:40.760 The argument you made is that in the dawn of like going back to human history,

01:37:45.760 if women had the choice not to have kids, they would not have kids. 1.00

01:37:47.760 I think that's wrong.

01:37:48.760 Well, and if they had the economic capability, if so, if, yes, for women who, 1.00

01:37:52.760 I understand if you have a farm or you have something where you need more kids working

01:37:56.760 and helping to sustain the family.

01:37:59.760 No, I totally get that.

01:38:00.760 I'm not denying that.

01:38:01.760 I'm not denying that.

01:38:02.760 It's not about sustaining the family.

01:38:03.760 It's about if you go back to the dawn of humanity and took two different couples 0.87

01:38:08.760 and one woman said, you know, I just don't want to have that many kids.

01:38:11.760 Totally fine.

01:38:12.760 20 years later, that tribe is gone.

01:38:14.760 Yeah.

01:38:15.760 Okay.

01:38:16.760 So evolutionary pressure was specifically in favor of women who wanted to have lots of kids. 1.00

01:38:20.760 Yeah.

01:38:21.760 Now that we've reached the industrial revolution, women who don't want to have kids 1.00

01:38:25.760 have no problem succeeding, surviving and thriving.

01:38:27.760 Yes.

01:38:28.760 And that's built a culture of people who are like, I want to not like, I don't want

01:38:32.760 to have kids.

01:38:33.760 I want to live and party and adventure.

01:38:34.760 I guess I just don't see necessarily outside of the demographic concerns or outside of these

01:38:40.760 evolutionary concerns.

01:38:41.760 I don't see what the problem is.

01:38:42.760 And it's not just about partying.

01:38:43.760 I think it's a little, I mean, I think it's a little problematic to say the reason you

01:38:46.760 wouldn't want to have kids is because you just want to have like, there's no problem

01:38:49.760 that the issue is that they would just die.

01:38:51.760 I mean, I maybe humanity at some point is supposed to die out.

01:38:54.760 I don't know.

01:38:55.760 I just don't think we should put on individual women's shoulders, the burden for you need 1.00

01:39:00.760 to have this many kids so that the human race can, can, can proliferate.

01:39:04.760 That's a reality.

01:39:05.760 You need at least two kids for replace. 1.00

01:39:07.760 It's called replacement levels.

01:39:08.760 If you don't, then society collapses.

01:39:11.760 Well, but we're also getting into a new world with a brave new world of biology and

01:39:16.760 everything else.

01:39:17.760 We're looking at a kind of an, an inevitable evolutionary trend away from that.

01:39:22.760 And I just don't know if that's to be alarmed.

01:39:24.760 I think the path we're on results in the eradication of females. 1.00

01:39:28.760 That's a lot to unpack.

01:39:30.760 I know.

01:39:31.760 Look at men becoming women of the year, literally.

01:39:34.760 Let's break it down.

01:39:35.760 Are there trans men playing in male sports?

01:39:38.760 Yeah.

01:39:39.760 No, I agree.

01:39:40.760 Are there males playing in female sports?

01:39:42.760 Yes.

01:39:43.760 So the pressure here is if you want to win and you only care about winning, you would

01:39:48.760 love to have a biological male compete against women. 0.99

01:39:51.760 If we create the technology to gestate humans in bags, for what reason would you have a woman? 1.00

01:39:57.760 And I'm not saying women are useless. 1.00

01:39:58.760 I'm saying. 0.97

01:39:59.760 No, I understand what you're saying.

01:40:00.760 Girls are going to make a decision when it comes to CRISPR. 1.00

01:40:02.760 Do you want a girl or a boy?

01:40:04.760 And there will be a desire for girls.

01:40:06.760 Girls are human beings. 1.00

01:40:07.760 I mean, people like boys, people like girls.

01:40:09.760 However, a lot of parents are going to start getting the pressure is going to rise and they're

01:40:14.760 going to say, well, it's a man's world. 0.89

01:40:16.760 So if we're going to choose, let's have a boy.

01:40:18.760 Well, you know, it's interesting, like in China, for instance.

01:40:20.760 So you probably are familiar with this.

01:40:22.760 Uh, for, yes, for a long time, you had women, uh, female children being aborted fetuses or what 1.00

01:40:28.760 have you.

01:40:29.760 But actually what a lot of Chinese are discovering is that if you have a woman, uh, instead of

01:40:35.760 a, uh, if you have a girl, instead of a boy, that girl's actually going to take care of 1.00

01:40:39.760 you in your older age, much more than the boy will.

01:40:41.760 And so you're seeing, actually, I've seen articles about this in China.

01:40:43.760 You're seeing more and more people saying, you know, Hey, maybe the, I mean, I do want

01:40:46.760 a girl instead of a boy, but.

01:40:48.760 So I do want to clarify.

01:40:49.760 I'm sure all the leftists are going to be like, I can't believe Tim pool.

01:40:51.760 It's such a thing that the China one child policy.

01:40:54.760 This is what I'm talking about. 0.99

01:40:55.760 When they, when they said you can have one kid that said, okay, kill all the girls. 1.00

01:40:58.760 And they were throwing baby girls in dumpsters and horror, horrifying things. 0.99

01:41:02.760 That's true.

01:41:03.760 So when it comes down to a, a simple mathematical equation where the left believes this.

01:41:10.760 And so the left shouldn't argue on this one, that it's a patriarchy and that society gives

01:41:14.760 men the benefits.

01:41:15.760 Fine.

01:41:16.760 Then if we take away the, if we create the ability to produce life, then you will see

01:41:21.760 based on your own beliefs in the patriarchy, the patriarchy will prefer to have male babies. 0.98

01:41:26.760 That's just it.

01:41:28.760 Make more males. 0.93

01:41:29.760 They're expendable.

01:41:30.760 They can lift heavy things and open pickle jars.

01:41:33.760 They win at sports.

01:41:34.760 And we saw this already in China when it came down to, you could have one kid.

01:41:37.760 What do you do?

01:41:38.760 They started getting rid of, of, of the girls.

01:41:40.760 And so seeing that I'm like, I think this will happen everywhere.

01:41:43.760 I think people would absolutely start doing this.

01:41:45.760 And you talk about being taken care of in your old age.

01:41:47.760 Sorry.

01:41:48.760 I got a robot for that now.

01:41:49.760 Well, but that same argument about the robot that could also apply to, uh, that also then

01:41:54.760 factors into whether men are more desirable than women, because increasingly the physical

01:41:59.760 differences between men are going to mean less and less in terms of, you know, like for

01:42:04.760 instance, a self-defense or something, you have a gun.

01:42:06.760 It doesn't really matter if you're a man or a woman, uh, unless you're going to get into 0.99

01:42:10.760 hand to hand combat.

01:42:11.760 So I guess what I'm saying is it doesn't matter.

01:42:13.760 Well, I guess what I'm saying is that I don't think that because technology is evolving the

01:42:18.760 way it is.

01:42:19.760 I'm not sure that this preference that you would have had in China for male boys who

01:42:23.760 can go out in the fields or whatever and do more than women. 1.00

01:42:25.760 I'm not sure that's going to be as much of a consideration, but you might be right.

01:42:29.760 I have honestly have not given much thought to this idea of the eradication of the female

01:42:34.760 sex.

01:42:35.760 That's happening. 0.97

01:42:36.760 There's going to be AI girlfriends. 0.93

01:42:37.760 There's a future of, yeah, you're going to marry AI.

01:42:40.760 So again, this is predicated upon what China already did.

01:42:43.760 And you can argue that specifically China and other countries wouldn't do it.

01:42:46.760 Fine.

01:42:47.760 Fair point.

01:42:48.760 But when I see that history, I grew up learning about that.

01:42:50.760 Then it's like, now you take a look at males competing in female sports.

01:42:55.760 Look, Jeff died at this comedy routine where he's like, diversity is the one, sports is

01:43:00.760 the one place where diversity will never come.

01:43:03.760 No basketball coach is going to look at his team and say, you know, we got too many black 0.96

01:43:06.760 people. 0.95

01:43:07.760 Mark Cuban.

01:43:08.760 He's totally wrong.

01:43:09.760 He's completely wrong.

01:43:10.760 Diversity has been in sports for a long time.

01:43:11.760 Plus it's always about getting power and winning.

01:43:13.760 Right.

01:43:14.760 So sure.

01:43:15.760 You're, you're not going to get a coach being like, I'm gonna make my team worse.

01:43:19.760 But you're looking at these women's sports and they're like, sure. 1.00

01:43:21.760 Well, we have no problem bringing on a male. 0.76

01:43:23.760 And then you've got this video where a six foot tall bearded male slams a teenage girl

01:43:28.760 to the ground and injures her.

01:43:30.760 So they forfeit the game. 0.98

01:43:31.760 Yeah, it's ridiculous. 0.52

01:43:32.760 So why would a parent, a liberal or conservative, conservatives I get because they're not going 0.97

01:43:37.760 to play this game with artificial wombs and stuff. 1.00

01:43:39.760 But liberals are under the impression that it is a patriarchy, that men control everything,

01:43:45.760 that men will have it easier, that men are less likely to get in trouble.

01:43:48.760 So when they're going to their CRISPR doctor to determine the genetics of the baby they will

01:43:53.760 create in their artificial womb, why would they decide to have a female if they genuinely 0.98

01:43:57.760 believe life is harder for females? 1.00

01:43:59.760 When they're saying things like I can't have a kid because climate change, they're going

01:44:03.760 to say, if I have a kid, I want to give that kid the best opportunities in the best life.

01:44:06.760 So we should have a white boy. 0.95

01:44:07.760 Unless the conditions in society have evolved through technology to the point where it's

01:44:11.760 no longer as clear why there should be a sex preference, I guess.

01:44:16.760 But, but I get what you're saying.

01:44:17.760 I get what you're saying.

01:44:18.760 And I'm not.

01:44:19.760 Yeah.

01:44:20.760 And sports.

01:44:21.760 Yeah.

01:44:22.760 I know.

01:44:23.760 And certain other areas.

01:44:24.760 Yeah.

01:44:25.760 You have a heavy preference towards males and you will end up with potentially women

01:44:29.760 being like demigods in terms of political stature. 0.98

01:44:34.760 If everyone, if you get a generation of the world that did what China did with the one 0.98

01:44:39.760 child policy and you end up with for every four men, there's one woman. 1.00

01:44:46.760 Those women will have a large amount of political power. 1.00

01:44:50.760 Mm hmm.

01:44:51.760 However, there's also the opposite.

01:44:53.760 So in the game Fallout, which I absolutely love, there's a each vault they built for the

01:44:59.760 survivors of the nuclear war.

01:45:00.760 They actually were experiments.

01:45:02.760 Do you ever read this?

01:45:03.760 You should absolutely look at it.

01:45:04.760 You'd love it.

01:45:05.760 So fearing nuclear war, Vault Tech builds vaults all over the country.

01:45:10.760 However, there's a fear that just putting people in an underground vault for 30 years

01:45:14.760 doesn't actually help them survive.

01:45:15.760 So each of them should be an experiment to maximize the potential of the humans who emerge

01:45:20.760 from them.

01:45:21.760 Mm hmm.

01:45:22.760 In Vault 69, literally the name of it, there is 99 men and one woman.

01:45:27.760 That was the experiment.

01:45:29.760 What would happen?

01:45:30.760 And then there's Vault 68, which is 99 women and one man. 0.95

01:45:33.760 And so I forgot how they wrote, how it plays out.

01:45:36.760 But there were two general ideas.

01:45:38.760 So you could create, if there's one woman and 99 men, that woman may become the queen 0.81

01:45:43.760 depending on how the men behave.

01:45:45.760 Mm hmm.

01:45:46.760 Or she could become the slave to 99 men. 0.99

01:45:48.760 Yeah.

01:45:49.760 I mean, there's one of my favorite sci-fi novels by Stephen Baxter.

01:45:54.760 It's called Evolution.

01:45:55.760 I don't know if you've ever read it.

01:45:56.760 It's one of the classics of the last like 20 years.

01:45:59.760 But anyway, he looks at different possibilities for human evolution.

01:46:03.760 And anyway, one of the scenarios in this novel that he looks at is where you have all of these men.

01:46:08.760 And somehow through circumstances, you have one woman.

01:46:11.760 And she becomes very much aware of the fact that she is now prey in a way. 0.95

01:46:17.760 It's because like, and so she ends up running away because she doesn't want to be the sex slave to all of these men. 0.99

01:46:22.760 So that's kind of interesting.

01:46:23.760 That's an interesting idea.

01:46:24.760 There's a, it's certainly not a concept I came up with.

01:46:26.760 But if you have a tribe of 100, let's say 200 people, 100 men and 100 women.

01:46:32.760 Mm hmm.

01:46:33.760 And if something happens, a disaster and 99 women die, that tribe is done. 0.99

01:46:37.760 Mm hmm.

01:46:38.760 Even though all the men are still alive and there's one, it doesn't matter.

01:46:40.760 But if it's the other way around, 100 women and 99 men die, that society has a very happy man.

01:46:46.760 No, I'm tired, tired, tired.

01:46:49.760 But that society survives.

01:46:51.760 Why?

01:46:52.760 Because women can do all the work men can do. 1.00

01:46:55.760 Perhaps men have a higher chance of being better at many of these jobs.

01:46:59.760 But on average, women can handle farming and all the basic stuff for survival, but they can also create life. 1.00

01:47:04.760 So if the women die off, your tribe is gone.

01:47:07.760 That's the end of it.

01:47:08.760 Yeah.

01:47:09.760 And so this creates the pressure I was talking about before where the reason, like the emergence of gender roles is extremely obvious.

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01:48:45.760 You've got 10 men, 10 women, and they're in a tribe. 0.97

01:48:49.760 The men say, women, you stay here. 1.00

01:48:51.760 We're going to go find food and we're going to leave five guys to protect you.

01:48:55.760 Why?

01:48:56.760 If the women went hunting and the men waited around, then that tribe is going to cease to exist.

01:49:01.760 No, I totally agree that there are good reasons for the way that differences are involved.

01:49:06.760 Well, I'm not saying it's good.

01:49:07.760 I'm just saying that's what happens.

01:49:08.760 Well, no, but logical.

01:49:09.760 But there are logical reasons.

01:49:10.760 It's also, you know, for instance, the prohibition against female sexual activity before marriage

01:49:16.760 that was largely more or less upheld until recently.

01:49:19.760 This is something that I know a lot of feminists have railed against, and I understand it. 1.00

01:49:26.760 But at the same time, it makes sense if you're thinking about a society that was like pre-paternity testing 0.88

01:49:31.760 and pre-government safety net and all of that.

01:49:33.760 It's like, no, there are reasons why we don't.

01:49:36.760 So let's talk about Me Too.

01:49:37.760 Yeah.

01:49:38.760 This is a good way.

01:49:39.760 I was thinking how we're going to transition about this, but it's like Marxist struggle sessions,

01:49:43.760 the algorithm rewarding victimhood.

01:49:45.760 Now you have something like this.

01:49:48.760 With the Me Too movement, the emergence of women lying about being raped for political power. 0.79

01:49:52.760 Right. 0.99

01:49:53.760 You have Trump, who was accused in one of the most ridiculous and insane stories imaginable. 1.00

01:49:59.760 Ridiculous. 0.99

01:50:00.760 You're talking about Carol, right? 0.99

01:50:01.760 Yeah.

01:50:02.760 Who says that she, for some reason, went into the dressing room with Trump.

01:50:06.760 What?

01:50:07.760 I've never brought a man into my dressing room.

01:50:08.760 It's not just that.

01:50:10.760 The dressing rooms are locked, but this time it wasn't.

01:50:13.760 No one was there and no one saw Trump.

01:50:15.760 Trump owned the hotel across the street, but decided not to go there.

01:50:18.760 And the most famous guy in New York City at the time, nobody noticed him walking in to

01:50:21.760 a dressing room with this woman. 0.98

01:50:22.760 It's ridiculous. 0.99

01:50:23.760 She didn't know what year it was.

01:50:24.760 The dress she claims to have been wearing at the time did not exist at the time she claimed

01:50:29.760 it happened.

01:50:30.760 But here we are.

01:50:31.760 What is it?

01:50:32.760 There's no accountability on that side.

01:50:33.760 And this is like such a great way to talk about, you know, politics.

01:50:38.760 Well, let's jump into it.

01:50:40.760 Yeah.

01:50:41.760 How does this begin?

01:50:42.760 How do we get to this point?

01:50:44.760 So I think there's several things going on.

01:50:46.760 I know, Shane, you have a lot to say as well.

01:50:48.760 But I think that a media that increasingly celebrates victimhood.

01:50:53.760 So there's a lot of currency that one can get, just like Evan Rachel Wood and Amber Heard,

01:50:59.760 who both wanted to build activist careers and credentials on the backs of these false allegations

01:51:05.760 Johnny Devin, Marilyn Manson.

01:51:06.760 Exactly.

01:51:07.760 You also have the infantilization of women. 1.00

01:51:09.760 We mentioned earlier the notion that a woman of 18, 19 is now just a child.

01:51:16.760 Right.

01:51:17.760 When in the past she would have been married or well on her way to marriage, having multiple

01:51:21.760 kids running a household and so forth.

01:51:23.760 What are some factors you see?

01:51:24.760 I see it's directly connected to Marxism.

01:51:27.760 And it's like Tim was saying, it's a power play.

01:51:29.760 And, you know, you look at Evan Rachel Wood.

01:51:31.760 She came out, for those who don't know, she accused Manson of impropriety.

01:51:35.760 And she came out and said that her abuser was Manson the day after Trump was elected.

01:51:41.760 Clearly a very political move.

01:51:42.760 And she admitted it was because of that, too.

01:51:44.760 Yeah.

01:51:45.760 She said, because Trump's been elected, I'm going to tell you now who my abuser was.

01:51:48.760 And he's an easy target because he looks a certain way.

01:51:50.760 He said a bunch of things that a lot of people say are wild.

01:51:52.760 Right.

01:51:53.760 But he's always been the victim, oddly enough, in the media.

01:51:56.760 Right.

01:51:57.760 So I think it was a power play for her because she saw, like you said, victimhood is a status

01:52:02.760 person and that he was a step in her way up into being like the victim princess all the

01:52:07.760 way up to creating laws.

01:52:08.760 Yes.

01:52:09.760 Right.

01:52:10.760 Which is what Marxists want to do to subvert what we have going on today in America, which

01:52:14.760 is like a court of law that you could hopefully trust, which obviously has got flaws.

01:52:18.760 But she used her Manson abuse as a way to go to Congress and to the California state, 0.99

01:52:25.760 passed new change laws and also her girlfriend at the time, Ilma Gore, was an activist.

01:52:32.760 Right.

01:52:33.760 Ilma Gore, I like to say, was the very first Jussie Smollett because she claimed to be punched 1.00

01:52:37.760 or something by some Trump supporters. 0.88

01:52:38.760 She told this ridiculous story to the media. 0.97

01:52:41.760 And this was prior to what, you know, what Evan Rachel Wood claimed.

01:52:44.760 Yeah.

01:52:45.760 But she claimed that she, so she did, she painted this work of art.

01:52:48.760 That's her most famous work of art. 1.00

01:52:50.760 And it's Trump with a micro penis. 0.99

01:52:52.760 Oh, and, and she claims, I guess that she's just so well known for that work of art that 1.00

01:52:57.760 some random Trump supporters kidnapped her and drove her around in a van.

01:53:00.760 Saw her on the streets of LA.

01:53:02.760 So this is like way worse than Smollett.

01:53:05.760 Yeah.

01:53:06.760 But, but she was pre some pre Smollett, but didn't get the credit that Smollett got, you

01:53:10.760 know, so I think she's bitter.

01:53:11.760 This is why her and Evan Rachel Wood, I think teamed up on, on Manson. 0.68

01:53:13.760 Yeah.

01:53:14.760 And so she started dating Evan Rachel Wood and it was a kind of a perfect storm where the

01:53:18.760 two of them concocted this plan to not only falsely accused Manson, but to recruit other

01:53:25.760 former girlfriends and female acquaintances of Manson to also make accusations that, uh,

01:53:32.760 one of them has now recanted, uh, Ashley Morgan Smith line.

01:53:35.760 One of the main accusers, she was on the cover of people magazine talking about what a monster 1.00

01:53:39.760 Manson was.

01:53:40.760 Well, she can't, she recanted an illegal declaration said that it was a hoax and she lied and she 0.80

01:53:44.760 was pressured into this by Evan Rachel Wood with, and also, and also promised that she

01:53:48.760 was going to have, you know, uh, high exposure and it was going to be restart her modeling

01:53:52.760 career and all of that, which didn't happen.

01:53:54.760 But, uh, so, and, and the other thing that people don't understand is that Manson's former

01:54:00.760 assistant, a woman named Ashley Walters, this was his personal assistant. 0.97

01:54:03.760 She gave all of his, um, social media and email information, passwords, logins, um, his, his

01:54:13.760 phone information, contacts, you know, contacts, everything.

01:54:17.760 She gave all of this to Evan Rachel Wood and Ilma Gore so that they could recruit more women 1.00

01:54:22.760 to join this scam.

01:54:23.760 And so what's crazy about the Manson situation is that it really is Johnny Depp and Amber Heard

01:54:28.760 times 10 because as, as much media plays, the Amber Heard allegations got, and as horrible

01:54:34.760 as they were for Johnny Depp, this is really what Evan Rachel Wood did.

01:54:37.760 It is really on a whole other level.

01:54:39.760 They swatted Manson.

01:54:40.760 They did?

01:54:41.760 You know, you see, you see the government working in tandem.

01:54:42.760 I hear y'all get swatted too.

01:54:43.760 Yeah, 15 times.

01:54:44.760 Yeah.

01:54:45.760 You see the government working in tandem with this victim, this fake victim.

01:54:48.760 Right.

01:54:49.760 Like Evan Rachel Wood.

01:54:50.760 Right.

01:54:51.760 To create the laws, to get him swatted, lose all his jobs.

01:54:53.760 So what's happened to Evan, Evan, Evan Rachel Wood since then?

01:54:55.760 She's had multiple documentaries, Netflix.

01:54:58.760 She had a two part HBO.

01:54:59.760 Wonderful propaganda piece.

01:55:00.760 Two part HBO documentary.

01:55:01.760 This is all fact that she like, it's a hoax.

01:55:04.760 I mean, it depends who you ask.

01:55:05.760 I mean, there's people who would still defend Amber Heard.

01:55:07.760 But no, if you look at the evidence, it is very clear that this is a hoax.

01:55:12.760 And, you know, Evan Rachel Wood, she forged, she and Ilma Gore, they forged an FBI letter.

01:55:18.760 They faked an FBI letter and put the name of an agent, a real agent on this in order to try to, well, this is a whole other story, but Evan Rachel Wood was withholding her child from Jamie Bell, the father of her child.

01:55:32.760 And she kidnapped the kid and went to Tennessee against Jamie Bell's wishes and ended up losing custody because of this. 0.98

01:55:40.760 But she devised this fake FBI letter to try to explain to Jamie Bell and the court why she needed to run away with the kid because she was afraid for her life, you know, in LA.

01:55:50.760 I would say Evan Rachel Wood is still looked at as a darling, though, in the media.

01:55:53.760 She is.

01:55:54.760 Whereas Manson's still, you know, the villain.

01:55:56.760 She is.

01:55:57.760 Which is, that's the issue.

01:55:58.760 And how do you break that spell?

01:55:59.760 It is.

01:56:00.760 Where, you know, because Manson's made himself this, you know, the dissenter all these years, right?

01:56:05.760 He was blamed for Columbine.

01:56:06.760 He's a controversial figure, extremely, yeah.

01:56:07.760 He was blamed for all these different things.

01:56:08.760 There's all these rumors about him.

01:56:09.760 People believe all of this stuff. 0.54

01:56:11.760 And at this point where he's getting me too'd, people are just like, oh, that makes sense because he's the monster.

01:56:16.760 He's always been, according to the media, right?

01:56:18.760 Right, right.

01:56:19.760 But the media has such a, the media works in tandem with the activists and with the government, you know?

01:56:25.760 Right.

01:56:26.760 So it's like they've created an alternate reality where Manson is the bad guy no matter what.

01:56:31.760 He's a caricature and people buy into it.

01:56:33.760 And the media.

01:56:34.760 And it's an angel.

01:56:35.760 Exactly.

01:56:36.760 And the media are not interested, as you know, Tim, they're not interested in the counter-narrative.

01:56:41.760 And so there are a lot of people, for example, who are not aware of the fact that Manson's ex-wife, Dita Von Teese, and his ex-fiance, Rose McGowan, have both come out publicly and said, this man is not an abuser.

01:56:54.760 And so there's actually a great counter-narrative in Manson's favor, but the media, they're just not interested in promoting that.

01:57:04.760 And I, go ahead.

01:57:05.760 I want to get into just like the core of Me Too.

01:57:07.760 Yeah.

01:57:08.760 Right?

01:57:09.760 Like how does this start?

01:57:10.760 I think it's a tendril of Marxism to, to seek power.

01:57:13.760 What do you mean by that?

01:57:14.760 Like Marxism wants to own you.

01:57:17.760 Mm-hmm.

01:57:18.760 It wants to own the means of production.

01:57:19.760 The humans are the means of production.

01:57:21.760 Like in Maoist China, you know, they destroy all our language.

01:57:26.760 You now work for the state.

01:57:27.760 And if you don't, you'll get struggle sessioned into oblivion.

01:57:30.760 Me Too is a form of a struggle session.

01:57:32.760 So when I say it's a tendril, it's like, that's just one way to destroy modern society or the West in particular.

01:57:38.760 Me Too became that struggle session or like, you know, they would have, they would have, Mao would have dissenters, their heads chopped off in the town.

01:57:47.760 Square wall, making children watch as they sang the national anthem.

01:57:50.760 So we haven't really gotten to that point yet.

01:57:52.760 But these struggle sessions, these Me Too sessions that happen online where you're kind of digitally stoned are that.

01:57:57.760 Yes.

01:57:58.760 To a degree, you lose your whole livelihood, no matter who you are, no matter how big it is.

01:58:01.760 So I think the Marxist is, Marxism is a seed of the Me Too stuff, just like how BLM was. 0.73

01:58:07.760 And they said they're Marxist.

01:58:08.760 The two ladies who started BLM were like, we are Marxist. 0.90

01:58:11.760 Mm-hmm.

01:58:12.760 So that's what this is, you know?

01:58:13.760 And I think it's just out of control.

01:58:14.760 It's just out of control.

01:58:15.760 I'm not saying everyone involved in the Manchester stuff or Amber Heard are like thinking we're Marxists, but they are.

01:58:20.760 They just don't realize it.

01:58:21.760 Who was the guy at NBC that got Me Too'd?

01:58:24.760 Brian Williams?

01:58:25.760 No.

01:58:26.760 Matt Lauer.

01:58:27.760 They claimed that he had a button on his desk that would lock the door.

01:58:29.760 And he was like, that's insane.

01:58:31.760 I don't have that.

01:58:32.760 It's crazy.

01:58:33.760 I mean, I don't know.

01:58:34.760 Well, that's the problem, too, with a lot of Me Too claims.

01:58:36.760 I mean, I don't know enough about Lauer to say either way on him, but it's a he said, she said most of the time.

01:58:44.760 And so, unfortunately, a society has just decided or the media have decided that when it's a he said, she said, then we believe women.

01:58:51.760 Well, there's that viral image of the poster at the university that says, John was drunk.

01:58:56.760 Jill was drunk.

01:58:57.760 Jill couldn't consent. 0.90

01:58:58.760 It was rape. 1.00

01:58:59.760 The media is really good at creating caricatures.

01:59:02.760 And once they can convince you that this person is the caricature they said it is, then they can convince you of anything that that person's done.

01:59:09.760 Manson is like the perfect one.

01:59:11.760 Well, so is Trump.

01:59:12.760 There's a bunch of them.

01:59:13.760 But Manson and Trump in particular, oddly enough.

01:59:15.760 No, it's interesting.

01:59:16.760 You can mention the same sentence, but it's very true.

01:59:17.760 Very true.

01:59:18.760 Because they're both kind of become, I hate to say they're victims, but they're victims of the media apparatus that's turned them into caricatures.

01:59:24.760 Johnny Depp.

01:59:25.760 Yeah.

01:59:26.760 Depp too. 0.99

01:59:27.760 Depp is crazy. 0.99

01:59:28.760 And he's still getting it. 0.96

01:59:29.760 I mean, you were talking about vice, you know, they're in the they're in the pits now and good.

01:59:32.760 I'm good riddance to them.

01:59:33.760 But they just came out with a documentary once again, trying to promote the idea that not only that Johnny Depp was guilty, but also that Johnny Depp's followers know that he hit Amber and don't care because she deserved it. 0.59

01:59:48.760 Crazy. 0.98

01:59:49.760 It's ridiculous. 0.98

01:59:50.760 They will they will create many loopholes in logic to make sense of the narrative. 0.92

01:59:54.760 They want you to believe.

01:59:55.760 Right.

01:59:56.760 They need to cram it down your throat, which is why the Manson thing is so interesting to me because you were talking about accountability earlier.

02:00:01.760 There's been no accountability for everything you've just described with Evan Mitchell Wood.

02:00:04.760 No.

02:00:05.760 She's literally forged FBI letters. 0.98

02:00:08.760 Kidnapped her kid.

02:00:09.760 She's literally kidnapped her kid. 0.99

02:00:10.760 Lost custody.

02:00:11.760 I mean, all these things have been caught lying, all this stuff.

02:00:14.760 Other accusers have recanted, like you said, but the media refuses to accept any of that as a reality.

02:00:20.760 Yes.

02:00:21.760 And doubling down on Manson being the victim or the villain, rather, or Depp being the villain.

02:00:26.760 I'm not saying these guys are all angels.

02:00:28.760 I know we're not saying that clearly.

02:00:29.760 No, no one's perfect.

02:00:30.760 And I think and let me just say, I think also that that is why it's so difficult for so many men, celebrity men who are caught in the crossfires, the crosshairs of this.

02:00:40.760 It's so difficult for them to defend themselves because they do have some shady stuff in their background.

02:00:45.760 I don't mean shady like abuse, but I just mean, you know, rock stars, movie stars, what have you.

02:00:49.760 And to me, it really reminds me of the crucible.

02:00:51.760 You know, if you read the crucible, the hero of the crucible, John Proctor, he waits until it's too late to challenge the court.

02:00:58.760 He waits until it's too late to act because he knows that he has an extramarital affair in his background and he lives in a Puritan society and he doesn't want that exposed.

02:01:05.760 And I think that someone like Marilyn Manson, for instance, I know that he's fighting back in the courts, but it is very difficult for him to fight back publicly.

02:01:14.760 Because he does, he has had that rock star lifestyle and I know he's got shady stuff in his past, again, not abuse or whatever.

02:01:21.760 But I think that these men are almost, no pun intended, kind of neutered in a way in that they can't fully fight back.

02:01:27.760 Me, because, because you have to be like pure as the driven snow these days to make it true.

02:01:34.760 Even that's not good enough.

02:01:35.760 No, it's not.

02:01:36.760 They'll just make it up.

02:01:37.760 No, you're right.

02:01:38.760 You're right.

02:01:39.760 You cover this a lot.

02:01:40.760 Like you've done Depp and Cuomo and Manson.

02:01:43.760 Do you see it, Me Too stuff, kind of the hysteria dying down now, even though they're still trying to go after Depp after, you know, all that stuff?

02:01:50.760 I feel like, I feel like there are two worlds right now.

02:01:53.760 There's the world of normal people and then there's the media heavily politicized world. 0.98

02:01:58.760 I think that normal people are hip to this bullshit now. 0.97

02:02:01.760 And I think that more and more people understand that believe women, believe all women is a very problematic ideology and believe in the presumption of innocence and are sick of Me Too. 0.97

02:02:11.760 The problem is though, and it's like you were talking about with advertisers, someone like Marilyn Manson, for instance, the position he's in or others is that these corporations, these record labels, whatever we're talking about, they're scared to death of any hint of scandal when it comes to anything like assault or rape or abuse.

02:02:29.760 And so there's a lag, I think what's going on is there's a lag, there's a lag going on between the normal people who I think have caught on and the media and the corporate world and these institutions that have still not changed.

02:02:43.760 Yeah.

02:02:44.760 The other thing when I think about the Marxist seed of Me Too is that a lot of the people, and it's not all of them, but a lot of the people we're talking about now are dissenters.

02:02:52.760 And dissent is like the highest form of sin to a Marxist, right?

02:02:56.760 That is true.

02:02:57.760 That's true.

02:02:58.760 Cuomo, I detest the guy.

02:02:59.760 We can talk about him.

02:03:00.760 Do you mean like apostasy?

02:03:01.760 Like speaking out against their institution, you know?

02:03:03.760 But it doesn't have to be all saying the same thing against it, but they've all kind of proven that they can't be controlled because Cuomo wasn't the progressive left that New York wanted.

02:03:13.760 Manson is obviously-

02:03:14.760 I would consider that tier two, tier one would be apostasy. 0.65

02:03:17.760 Who would be that?

02:03:18.760 If you used to be a leftist.

02:03:21.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:03:22.760 I mean, and then you came out and got against them.

02:03:23.760 Who would that be though?

02:03:24.760 Like a Russell Brand perhaps?

02:03:26.760 Russell Brand.

02:03:27.760 That's a good example.

02:03:28.760 Glenn Greenwald.

02:03:29.760 Yeah.

02:03:30.760 I mean-

02:03:31.760 Those are good examples.

02:03:32.760 My shift is not as pronounced, so I don't know that I'd qualify, but they certainly-

02:03:36.760 Bill Barr to some degree.

02:03:37.760 Oh, yeah.

02:03:38.760 Jon Stewart now.

02:03:39.760 Yeah.

02:03:40.760 Because you can just say one thing.

02:03:41.760 It's an orthodoxy, yeah.

02:03:42.760 To get to their good graces, right?

02:03:43.760 Right, right.

02:03:44.760 You have to obey their whole hierarchy.

02:03:46.760 Like any religion, an apostate is worse than a non-believer. 1.00

02:03:48.760 That's true.

02:03:49.760 The non-believers are people who you need to convince apostates have abandoned you, and

02:03:52.760 they could risk sowing seeds of discontent.

02:03:54.760 That's the thing.

02:03:55.760 Even Manson, I guess you could say, is an apostate because they keep redefining what it means

02:03:58.760 to be a leftist or a Marxist.

02:04:01.760 They've moved so far left that anything now is far right to them.

02:04:05.760 And they can just think, as a monolith, they would think, if you're not with us, then

02:04:09.760 you must be far right, and you must be taken out. 0.88

02:04:11.760 Right.

02:04:12.760 Which is why they went after Russell Brand.

02:04:13.760 I was trying to think.

02:04:14.760 I was asking you about-

02:04:15.760 Oh, Russell Brand. 0.97

02:04:16.760 I mean, holy crap. 0.99

02:04:17.760 Dude. 0.99

02:04:18.760 I think the Russell Brand thing is BS, too.

02:04:19.760 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

02:04:20.760 Yeah, yeah.

02:04:21.760 Definitely.

02:04:22.760 I think it's wild. 0.90

02:04:23.760 I mean, the story's ridiculous. 0.99

02:04:24.760 Totally ridiculous. 0.97

02:04:25.760 Yeah. 0.97

02:04:26.760 I hope so.

02:04:27.760 But that's the problem.

02:04:28.760 Also, I know, as we all do, there are also really bad men in the world.

02:04:30.760 Sure, sure.

02:04:31.760 Clearly, bad men do bad things.

02:04:32.760 There's bad women in the world. 1.00

02:04:33.760 And that's why all this is unfortunate for them.

02:04:34.760 Bad things happen.

02:04:35.760 Do you guys remember-

02:04:36.760 Was it Aziz Ansari?

02:04:37.760 He got it. 0.97

02:04:38.760 That was ridiculous. 0.96

02:04:39.760 Chris Hardwick was another one. 0.96

02:04:42.760 Well, it was false, but what she was alleging was just basically that he was a bad boyfriend.

02:04:47.760 The only thing that she alleged that was serious against Chris Hardwick, his ex-girlfriend,

02:04:52.760 was that, and I'm quoting, that she had let him sexually assault her one night.

02:04:57.760 What does that mean?

02:04:58.760 She used the term let.

02:04:59.760 Well, she didn't want to have sex. 0.99

02:05:00.760 He talked her into it.

02:05:01.760 So that was assault.

02:05:02.760 But Aziz Ansari might be one of the most egregious.

02:05:04.760 That was just a bad date.

02:05:05.760 I know.

02:05:06.760 But it wasn't even really that bad of a date.

02:05:07.760 It was just a bad date for her.

02:05:09.760 Exactly.

02:05:10.760 The story for Aziz Ansari was that they went on a date.

02:05:12.760 He said, you want to come back to my place.

02:05:13.760 They hung out, fooled around a little bit.

02:05:15.760 And he was like, well, you know, it was fine.

02:05:16.760 And she was into all of it.

02:05:17.760 And then she was like, I did not enjoy that night.

02:05:19.760 Right. 0.93

02:05:20.760 And then she's like, therefore, it's rape. 1.00

02:05:21.760 Well, and what came out in that story as well is that she wanted to be his girlfriend.

02:05:26.760 And she, at a certain point in the night, she realized, oh, this is just going to be a celebrity hookup.

02:05:30.760 And she didn't like that.

02:05:31.760 And she didn't like that.

02:05:32.760 Well, you know what?

02:05:33.760 If you don't like it, you leave.

02:05:34.760 But she kept hanging around, hoping that he would change his mind.

02:05:36.760 Look at Mattress Girl. 1.00

02:05:37.760 Yes.

02:05:38.760 Oh, yeah.

02:05:39.760 She carries her on a mattress, accusing this guy of rape. 0.99

02:05:40.760 And then it turns out she was begging him.

02:05:41.760 Well, he's gotten a nice payout from Columbia University now.

02:05:44.760 Did he?

02:05:45.760 Yeah.

02:05:46.760 He's seen the school.

02:05:47.760 He got a big payout because that turned out to be BS.

02:05:48.760 Yeah.

02:05:49.760 It turns out.

02:05:50.760 The messages that came out showed that not only did he not do anything wrong, she was asking him.

02:05:53.760 She was.

02:05:54.760 He was turning her down.

02:05:55.760 Yeah.

02:05:56.760 And she got mad that she got turned down.

02:05:57.760 And then she started carrying around a mattress. 0.87

02:05:58.760 Yeah. 0.97

02:05:59.760 Like, this is the mattress I was on when I got raped. 0.76

02:06:00.760 And then she filmed a video, an art performance. 0.99

02:06:03.760 People are evil, dude.

02:06:06.760 You know, when I was younger, I didn't believe in evil.

02:06:08.760 I just thought everybody had different competing interests.

02:06:11.760 But evil exists.

02:06:13.760 There are people who will stab you in the back for a cheeseburger.

02:06:20.760 Literally.

02:06:21.760 I'm not.

02:06:22.760 Yeah, right.

02:06:23.760 Totally.

02:06:24.760 Yeah.

02:06:25.760 There's a there's stories here every day.

02:06:26.760 And if you really watch guy got shot in the chest because he wouldn't give a cell phone

02:06:30.760 to a guy.

02:06:31.760 It's like you really murdered him over a cell phone.

02:06:32.760 And there are people you know that you think are your friends and that you love and trust

02:06:38.760 when given the chance will try to destroy you for fun.

02:06:43.760 Yep.

02:06:44.760 Yeah.

02:06:45.760 This is a this is a harsh reality of like this industry.

02:06:47.760 There is a guy.

02:06:48.760 I basically I like I would say I just about I don't want to say I balled my eyes up.

02:06:52.760 I cried when a good friend of mine for no reason betrayed me out of the blue and and

02:07:01.760 gave private stuff that that like a good friend of mine for years one day decided he

02:07:06.760 wanted to join the mob and just attack me for no reason because it made him feel good.

02:07:09.760 And I was like why this guy was a good friend of mine.

02:07:12.760 We hung out together.

02:07:13.760 We was he jealous.

02:07:14.760 No, I don't know.

02:07:15.760 There's evil people.

02:07:16.760 I think a lot of it is jealousy.

02:07:17.760 I do.

02:07:18.760 You know, I think when you get to a certain place and people see you getting any amount

02:07:21.760 of success.

02:07:22.760 Maybe they want to take it.

02:07:23.760 They want to take it from you.

02:07:24.760 This is a guy who I had given things to.

02:07:26.760 This is a guy was a good friend of mine.

02:07:27.760 I'm sorry.

02:07:28.760 I gave him stuff to help him with his business.

02:07:30.760 I gave him equipment.

02:07:31.760 No good deed.

02:07:32.760 Bought him things.

02:07:33.760 We'd hang out.

02:07:34.760 We'd grab cheeseburgers.

02:07:35.760 I'd be like, hey, I'm going to be in town.

02:07:36.760 You're around like, let's go hang out. 0.98

02:07:37.760 And then as soon as the opportunity arose, he was like, I will destroy this man. 0.79

02:07:40.760 Yep. 0.99

02:07:41.760 Evil.

02:07:42.760 Evil.

02:07:43.760 Well, and the thing with me, too, I think that's that's additionally problematic

02:07:46.760 is that it has given women these false accusers.

02:07:51.760 It has given them this convenient illusion that they're actually working for the good.

02:07:57.760 And I think that there's there's a lot of I'll give you an example.

02:08:03.760 So there is a musician named William Control, and he's not as well known as Manson, but he

02:08:08.760 achieved some success.

02:08:09.760 And he had a number of women exes of his former partners come out and meet to him.

02:08:14.760 Well, I had one of them come on my channel.

02:08:16.760 And because her conscience had been bothering her and she was ready to recant.

02:08:19.760 So she came on my channel and she recanted and she announced that she had flat out lied

02:08:24.760 and she explained her motivations.

02:08:25.760 And what she said was that when he dumped her, when she found out she wasn't the only

02:08:29.760 one or whatever, she was obviously very upset and that people around her were telling

02:08:34.760 her, well, he used you. 1.00

02:08:36.760 He manipulated you.

02:08:37.760 And so then it kind of gave her this cushion to think, well, you know, these negative feelings

02:08:42.760 that I have toward him.

02:08:43.760 Maybe it is more than just feeling, you know, upset that I was dumped or cheated on or whatever.

02:08:47.760 Maybe like this really was abuse.

02:08:49.760 And so the abuse label is now being used as a as an umbrella.

02:08:52.760 I think that connects to what Tim is saying to evil people.

02:08:55.760 Yeah, I think of I love C.S. Lewis and the screw tape letters.

02:08:58.760 It's about demons talking about how you infiltrate the brain of someone to get them away from God.

02:09:02.760 And like a friend or someone you thought was a friend, you fall apart for whatever reason.

02:09:08.760 And then that mob that was on the periphery of that friendship starts whispering in the ears.

02:09:12.760 Like, you know, just like you're saying with the relationship, oh, it's just this and that.

02:09:15.760 And then that creates the evil urges and the jealousy that bubbles up. 1.00

02:09:18.760 Have you guys ever seen the viral video where a man and a woman are walking down the street in a crowded area and the woman is punching the guy and screaming at him and calling him stupid and a moron. 1.00

02:09:26.760 And the reactions of the people are laughter. 0.96

02:09:29.760 Then they walked on the same street later and the guy is shoving them and not hitting her as hard and screaming at her and a bunch of dudes run up and shove him start yelling at him.

02:09:36.760 This is part of the evolutionary psychology of if women die, society fails. 1.00

02:09:41.760 It creates a circumstance in which female abusers are given a free pass under the assumption you must protect women.

02:09:47.760 That's true. That's true.

02:09:48.760 Well, I think all this is happening on purpose.

02:09:50.760 I'm not saying everyone in the Me Too or in the colleges are like activated agents for Marxism.

02:09:55.760 But I do think there is a seed of destruction for Western society and it's attacking the family.

02:10:01.760 It's not good for us for men and women to distrust each other.

02:10:03.760 Yes, it's attacking the men and women relationships, marriage, the nuclear family, everything's under attack.

02:10:09.760 And I think it's on purpose, but not everyone who's doing the warring knows they're part of this war.

02:10:14.760 Right. No, they don't.

02:10:15.760 They think they're progress.

02:10:16.760 They don't.

02:10:17.760 They think they're making a better future. 1.00

02:10:18.760 It's like a useful idiot almost in a way. 1.00

02:10:19.760 Exactly. 0.99

02:10:20.760 And I think and also I think that if you have never been through this, if you've never been falsely accused or if you've never been close to someone who who is.

02:10:27.760 I think a lot of people, it's just they think, well, that where there's smoke, there's fire.

02:10:31.760 So like in Marilyn Manson's case, the fact that he had multiple women accusing him, it's just creates this sort of like fog of like, well, you know, maybe she did do this with the FBI letter or she lied about this or whatever.

02:10:42.760 But we know we know.

02:10:43.760 Look at that guy.

02:10:44.760 There's there's stuff there.

02:10:45.760 And so people don't care when really what they should understand is that these guys are the canaries in the coal mine.

02:10:50.760 And I'm seeing it now.

02:10:51.760 I get letters, emails, messages from people all the time.

02:10:54.760 Normal people who are now experiencing this in their corporate jobs who are getting me to out of their jobs or who are, you know, what have you.

02:11:02.760 And so it's not I think bringing this home, we need to try to bring this home to people and let them understand that it's not just some celebrity that you might not care about.

02:11:11.760 But actually, this stuff filters down into the culture.

02:11:13.760 Me, too, is also it's become the golden ticket for apolitical people who want to take someone out because they're jealous.

02:11:20.760 You know, like I know someone who's a successful person in an industry.

02:11:24.760 And when the BLM riots were happening, she didn't post a black box fast. 0.76

02:11:29.760 Yeah, that's the fake Ramaswamy.

02:11:32.760 Yo, this date she got attacked for not posting the black box and then did post it.

02:11:36.760 She didn't know she was she was apolitical at the time and then donated a lot of money to BLM. 0.93

02:11:41.760 Ridiculous. 0.95

02:11:42.760 That wasn't enough for them. 0.98

02:11:43.760 They wanted receipts and they still destroyed her. 0.99

02:11:45.760 She talked to me about it and we went through her Instagram and I was like, OK, look who started this whole thing.

02:11:51.760 You can go back on the comments.

02:11:53.760 That person was actually go figure trying to start a very similar business to my friends.

02:11:58.760 Yeah.

02:11:59.760 So it wasn't really political.

02:12:00.760 She just wanted to be her.

02:12:01.760 You know, I mean, I got to be honest, like if I had a business that also t-shirts during like all this period and someone was like, why don't you post your black box or whatever?

02:12:10.760 I'd say, oh, my bad.

02:12:11.760 Give me a second.

02:12:12.760 And then I would post like a green one.

02:12:13.760 Right.

02:12:14.760 I just feel like the Weezer album cover.

02:12:15.760 Yeah.

02:12:16.760 Yeah.

02:12:17.760 I also love this album.

02:12:18.760 Yes.

02:12:19.760 And then I just be like, I don't know what you mean.

02:12:20.760 I don't understand.

02:12:21.760 I thought we were doing like a color thing.

02:12:23.760 I know it's great.

02:12:24.760 I had friends reaching out to me that morning when the black boxing was happening.

02:12:27.760 I was like, yo, don't even post it.

02:12:29.760 As I said, they will turn it against you.

02:12:31.760 And literally a number of hours later, like white people have oversaturated the black box market. 0.75

02:12:35.760 I think you can never do anything right for these people.

02:12:37.760 It will never be enough.

02:12:38.760 Never.

02:12:39.760 Well, so we have MAGA month now.

02:12:41.760 It's July.

02:12:42.760 So it's where everyone changes their profile pictures to American flags.

02:12:45.760 OK, OK.

02:12:46.760 Every corporation should put American flags in their profile for MAGA month, which is

02:12:50.760 it's July.

02:12:51.760 Yeah.

02:12:52.760 Bud Light will do it this year.

02:12:53.760 I'm sure.

02:12:54.760 Yeah.

02:12:55.760 I mean, it would be really cool if we actually created a real cultural trend of putting American

02:12:58.760 flags.

02:12:59.760 It would be an improvement.

02:13:00.760 Well, because like every business that basically the idea was all these businesses in June

02:13:02.760 make the rainbow versions of their logos.

02:13:04.760 And I'm like, well, July is like when is our independence day, you know, like July 4th.

02:13:08.760 So we'll start promoting it.

02:13:10.760 Yeah.

02:13:11.760 I mean, maybe if you call it MAGA month, they won't do it.

02:13:14.760 But freedom month.

02:13:15.760 Freedom month.

02:13:16.760 Yeah.

02:13:17.760 It is interesting to me that I feel like it has it is becoming more acceptable to like

02:13:23.760 Trump openly and to not be closeted.

02:13:25.760 I mean, y'all might say, well, in our circles, it always was.

02:13:27.760 And I get that.

02:13:28.760 But I but I do think that that there and maybe it's just people really just hate Joe Biden.

02:13:32.760 But it does seem like Trump is gaining some steam and it's funny, though.

02:13:36.760 Open acceptance.

02:13:37.760 I see that.

02:13:38.760 I see Trump getting more support from people who are supposedly on the left.

02:13:40.760 But in like the right leaning world, there's also people who are so DeSantis who hate Trump.

02:13:44.760 There's so pro Vivek. 0.96

02:13:45.760 And they say Trump's worthless.

02:13:46.760 You know, it's just that's the right is just fractured.

02:13:49.760 Yeah.

02:13:50.760 So much, which is a good thing with individuals, like actual individuals.

02:13:53.760 But it can be counterproductive.

02:13:54.760 But you're seeing people like on the left, like Michael Rapoport.

02:13:57.760 Oh, now openly considering.

02:13:58.760 I know.

02:13:59.760 Well, because this is a guy.

02:14:01.760 I like him.

02:14:02.760 He's a funny guy.

02:14:03.760 He lived in the narrative.

02:14:04.760 Right.

02:14:05.760 Now that he started to see.

02:14:06.760 He's waking up.

02:14:07.760 Well, after October 7th, he was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

02:14:10.760 Hold on a minute.

02:14:11.760 And it's Gelman amnesia effect.

02:14:12.760 You know, that is.

02:14:13.760 Yes.

02:14:14.760 For someone like Rapoport, it's in the same bubble.

02:14:16.760 Basically, he lives in this world where he hears it.

02:14:18.760 It must be true.

02:14:19.760 But he knows about Israel.

02:14:21.760 So when this October 7th thing happens and he knows about it and then he starts seeing what's

02:14:25.760 being said, he goes, hey, wait a minute.

02:14:27.760 You're lying to me, dude.

02:14:28.760 Yeah.

02:14:29.760 And then he starts to look at everything else.

02:14:30.760 I was like, bro, they were lying to me the whole time.

02:14:32.760 Well, it seems like the migrant thing is a big thing for Rapoport, too, because it's 1.00

02:14:36.760 hitting close to home.

02:14:37.760 He lives in New York or whatever, and he sees what's happening with illegal immigration and

02:14:41.760 all of that.

02:14:42.760 And so once it starts to hit home, then there can be some eyes open.

02:14:47.760 For those listening, the Gelman amnesia is a great way to help break the spell of your 1.00

02:14:51.760 friends and family who are under the spell of the media.

02:14:53.760 Tell people who might not know.

02:14:54.760 It's like, so you know about Trump or let's say you know about plumbing and the article

02:14:59.760 in the paper is about plumbing.

02:15:01.760 No, it's all wrong.

02:15:02.760 And you're like, how do you even trust this writer?

02:15:04.760 They were worried about plumbing.

02:15:05.760 None of this is right.

02:15:06.760 You turn the page.

02:15:07.760 It's about Israel.

02:15:08.760 And you're just like, oh, wow.

02:15:09.760 I didn't know any of that.

02:15:10.760 When you encounter something in which you're an expert in the media, it's full of inaccuracies.

02:15:16.760 Right.

02:15:17.760 But then you turn the page and you assume that a story is true.

02:15:20.760 You accept it.

02:15:21.760 So once you tell people about that and you can find in whatever friends or family you

02:15:25.760 have the things that will enlighten them, you know, I think that does open a door for

02:15:29.760 people.

02:15:30.760 But it's like, yeah, right.

02:15:31.760 So you could talk to someone and say, no, Trump did this.

02:15:33.760 Trump did that.

02:15:34.760 And then Kevin O'Leary is a great example.

02:15:36.760 He's going, what?

02:15:37.760 Fraud trial.

02:15:38.760 Trump didn't do anything wrong.

02:15:39.760 I don't understand.

02:15:40.760 And then he goes, now there's a bunch of other charges against Trump that I get.

02:15:42.760 But no, no, no, no.

02:15:43.760 It's like, dude.

02:15:44.760 Yeah.

02:15:45.760 All the same.

02:15:46.760 Yeah.

02:15:47.760 We're just about at that time.

02:15:48.760 So we'll wrap things up.

02:15:49.760 If you guys want to have any final thoughts or shout anything out.

02:15:52.760 Yeah.

02:15:53.760 Thank you for having me.

02:15:54.760 I really appreciate this.

02:15:55.760 Like the biggest thing I've ever done.

02:15:56.760 I remember watching you when you went to Sweden for Paul Joseph Watson.

02:16:01.760 It wasn't for him.

02:16:02.760 It was a challenge.

02:16:03.760 I know.

02:16:04.760 I know.

02:16:05.760 But I remember that.

02:16:06.760 I'd ever had to you.

02:16:07.760 And so it's really, it's really been cool to.

02:16:09.760 I'm really here.

02:16:10.760 But no, I just wanted to give a shout out to, to all of my viewers and fans and Manson

02:16:16.760 supporters.

02:16:17.760 Marilyn Manson is one of the main things that I cover on my channel.

02:16:19.760 And if you haven't looked into it, everybody look into it.

02:16:21.760 It's a huge scam. 0.98

02:16:22.760 And look, even if you don't give a shit about Marilyn Manson, it is very significant. 0.98

02:16:27.760 This is a me too hoax on the level of something that I've never seen before. 0.98

02:16:30.760 And so it is socially relevant and important.

02:16:32.760 And I hope that this year, I know he's putting out new music and I hope that people will give

02:16:35.760 him a chance.

02:16:36.760 Yeah.

02:16:37.760 I'm excited for the new music.

02:16:38.760 Yeah.

02:16:39.760 Finally.

02:16:40.760 It was a real pleasure to be here and do the show with you.

02:16:41.760 Always, always fun.

02:16:42.760 Thank you to Kellen for running the boards.

02:16:44.760 Thank you, Kellen.

02:16:45.760 And yeah, you can check out my writing a scanner at cnr.com and a bunch of new projects on

02:16:50.760 the way.

02:16:51.760 The Inverted World Show, I think, is starting up soon.

02:16:52.760 I hope so.

02:16:53.760 It's ready.

02:16:54.760 Right?

02:16:55.760 It looks like it's almost ready.

02:16:56.760 The main reason we haven't moved to the new studio is because the skate park construction

02:16:58.760 is underway, but it should be done in like a week or two.

02:17:01.760 Really excited.

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The Culture War - Tim Pool - February 23, 2024

The Culture War #52 The End Of Academia, How College Got Woke & Died w⧸Kristen Lacefield

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