The Culture War - Tim Pool - The Culture War #60 Diddy Raid, Could This Be Epstein 2.0 w⧸ Ian Carroll & Shane Cashman

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00:00:58.140 The question on everyone's mind. Did Diddy do it? And what Diddy do? What didn't Diddy do? Diddy do

00:01:06.760 anything at all? I couldn't resist. It had to be done. And props to South Park for making up that

00:01:11.160 joke a long time ago. But in all seriousness, Diddy may be like Epstein 2.0. So we'll talk about

00:01:17.520 that. And there's a bunch of ancillary subjects related to trafficking and global affairs that we'll

00:01:22.580 get into. We got a whole big group. Ian, you want to introduce yourself first?

00:01:26.900 Yeah, I'm Ian. Ian Carroll on Twitter. Cancel's Clothing Company is where I started on TikTok.

00:01:33.220 And I started in money. And I started in like the markets. And now here we are.

00:01:38.700 Sweet. Talking about Diddy.

00:01:39.860 In Diddy. Yeah, I got pretty deep into the Diddy reporting for a little while and Candace picked

00:01:44.180 it up. And I was drawing connections to Michael Jackson and stuff. I mean, there's a lot in that

00:01:47.600 lawsuit. So wow. Yeah, there's a lot in there. Phil's hanging out. Hey, what's up, everybody?

00:01:52.220 My name's Phil Labonte. I'm the singer from All That Remains. What's going on?

00:01:55.320 Shane. It's good to see you. How you doing? Shane Cashman, writer for Scanner. Got a book coming

00:01:59.300 out with Tim Cass about the year of the pariah. A bunch of different stories I've written.

00:02:02.780 And I'm wearing my Yay 24 shirt because Yay predicted or said about a year ago that Diddy

00:02:08.780 was a Fed. Everyone laughed. But here we are. A Fed. So if he's a Fed, this is part of something

00:02:17.120 bigger than just some dude ripping off artists and stuff like that. I think there's a lot

00:02:22.140 of interesting connections I'm sure Ian can get into between Epstein. I mean, let's be

00:02:26.320 real. Diddy's probably really good at wearing up whole mansions with secret cameras.

00:02:30.460 Exactly. That's just like average rapper stuff. Right. Which is an MO that people in government

00:02:35.680 have been doing for decades. We got Callum pressing buttons. Yep. That's right. I'm

00:02:40.320 in the corner pressing buttons. Let's get started, guys. Okay. So was Diddy a Fed?

00:02:45.540 I mean, it's a good question, right? Like the I think the main question is, what do you define

00:02:51.040 as a Fed? I think a lot of people think of Feds and CIA agents is like I have like an ID

00:02:57.320 card and like I did a job application and I am their employee. But that's not how like intelligence

00:03:03.240 agencies work, right? Like intelligence agencies cultivate relationships. Like the whole point

00:03:08.360 of covert operations is plausible deniability. I think to answer this question, we have to

00:03:13.180 go back in time to the 90s when crack was everywhere. Wasn't the CIA doing that? Is that what it

00:03:19.560 was? That's the rumor. That's I don't think that there's been a I don't know what the what

00:03:23.400 has that been actually confirmed or what it's been with the story close to. Yeah, the story

00:03:27.960 is that the CIA was selling drugs in in the United States. So that in order to fund arms

00:03:38.740 purchases for I think it was Nicaragua, Nicaraguan Contras for the yeah, Ricky Ross freeway.

00:03:44.800 Yeah. So I don't know. There's a Wikipedia on the CIA involvement in contra cocaine trafficking.

00:03:50.460 Yeah, that's the exposed one number of writers have alleged it. Yeah. And then they basically

00:03:55.120 people then said the crack epidemic that was sweeping across the country was basically because

00:03:59.160 of the CIA. So I think that I personally think that's a stretch because like, honestly, like

00:04:05.840 drugs have no problem getting around like through through populations like people have been doing

00:04:12.420 drugs forever. So the idea that it's the CIA's fault that it that drugs got into the into the system,

00:04:19.140 I think is a bit of a stretch. But I do think that I don't think I mean, it's not a stretch as to

00:04:23.740 whether or not the CIA takes advantage of situations. They see something popping off

00:04:28.280 and they're like, well, how can we interject ourselves, which they do in the feds? Or could

00:04:32.480 we just use this as cover? Exactly. It's an easy cover. And then to Ian, you're talking about

00:04:37.000 what how you define a fed. In my opinion, I think he's someone who's been absorbed by the feds.

00:04:42.800 But that's that's what all of it is. And that's why I brought this up, because it's not like the

00:04:46.520 street dealers were feds. Yeah, right. But if if this was trickling through, it becomes part of a

00:04:50.980 bigger component. Obviously, if Diddy was involved in any kind of action, he doesn't need to work for

00:04:55.220 the FBI doesn't need to work for the CIA. He needs it could even be like a third degree where

00:05:00.360 it's like a contractor for the CIA approaches a big financier who then goes to Diddy and says do

00:05:07.580 these things for me. But I want to point one thing out real quick. When we pulled up the the

00:05:12.480 contra cocaine trafficking story, Gary Webb was a big reporter on that. And of course, Webb was found

00:05:19.320 dead in his Carmichael home on December 10th, 2004 with two gunshot wounds to the head. His

00:05:23.120 death was ruled a suicide. Two gunshot wounds to the head. That's my favorite move. Two gunshot

00:05:27.600 wounds. Rip Gary. That's how they do the signature. The first one didn't work and he killed himself.

00:05:32.680 That's how you know it was suicide. Oh, to be fair, to the head could mean jaw. I don't know.

00:05:38.140 Yeah. So it's like, you know, it's kind of brutal to start the show with. But in the event

00:05:42.140 that someone a lot of people like, man, I don't want to do this. Flinch or whatever. Yeah. Or they tilt their heads

00:05:46.500 back and then they shoot themselves and doesn't do anything. And some people survive gunshot wounds

00:05:50.620 to the head. That being said, it is not a good sentence. No one is going to believe you when

00:05:55.320 you're like two gunshot wounds to the head. Especially when you take the rest of his story

00:05:59.900 into account and like all the reporting he was doing. I mean, ever since, ever since the stuff

00:06:04.740 that ever since it came out that the CIA actually had done stuff to the population, like it was

00:06:10.260 Operation Northwoods or whatever they like. Planned it. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever the extent they were

00:06:15.380 actually, they were actually like doing stuff, whether you think that it was like real big,

00:06:19.700 big time operation with a lot of people involved or whether it was like small time kind of thing.

00:06:24.280 The fact that those stories are, have, have at least a kernel of truth and are spread through

00:06:29.320 the population. Right. And then you top it off with, with the whole COVID narrative and all the

00:06:36.020 stuff that's happened in the past couple of years, people are going to be like, look, this is how I

00:06:39.880 see it. And these things make sense to me. So this is what I believe. It's always, it's always why I

00:06:43.820 would defend someone like Alex Jones. When he would talk about things that sound insane to people,

00:06:47.760 I would point to something like Northwoods. For those who don't know, Northwoods is the

00:06:50.700 Joint Chiefs of Staff going to Kennedy saying, we have this plan to start a war by creating false

00:06:55.400 flags, taking care of, like taking out our own people, bombing planes, shooting, mass shooting

00:07:00.460 events, and then blaming it on Cuba. So once you know, things like that are being planned by the

00:07:05.420 people in power conceived of exactly. You can't not look at anything else. Just because I know

00:07:10.540 that someone watching this is going to be like, I tried telling my dad, he doesn't, he said,

00:07:14.340 you're crazy. It's made up. Here you go. Wikipedia operation Northwoods. What was it?

00:07:18.680 It made it to Wikipedia.

00:07:20.520 Lemnitzer was the general in charge. JFK fired him. And then the rumors are Lemnitzer got involved,

00:07:25.480 I believe with NATO, which then did false flags in supposedly Italy during the years of lead,

00:07:31.340 which were really bad false flags from the left and the right on each other, which then you can

00:07:35.220 connect to operation. Gladio. I'm going to be super annoying today. Let's do it.

00:07:39.100 I'm going to be super annoying today. We have to remember that Wikipedia is run by

00:07:42.740 communists now. So Wikipedia is also not to be trusted. Definitely not trust. Look up the

00:07:48.140 actual documents from Northwoods, which are out there and declassified. You have to read through

00:07:51.000 their bias. And when you're, when you're researching like counter to Wikipedia's bias and something has

00:07:55.680 still made it there. Yeah. That's like, that's why you're pulling it up, right? It's like,

00:07:58.960 Oh, this is Operation Northwoods. This is from 1962. Like, look, government didn't censor that.

00:08:03.400 Let's start from the beginning and I will avoid saying it. Instead, I'll say,

00:08:06.940 what is Sean Combs accused of doing?

00:08:10.980 It's a good question. Um, the lawsuit itself basically just alleges that Sean Combs, the,

00:08:16.160 the lawsuit says dating back to the nineties, specifically to the party where JLo was involved

00:08:21.200 with the shooting is like as far back as his knowledge goes, that he has been running a sexual

00:08:26.260 blackmail scheme that is promoting artists based upon them doing sexual favors, um, them attending

00:08:34.820 these parties just kind of tits for tats that he has whole mansions wired up with cameras, um, where

00:08:40.300 these parties are happening. But the lawsuit also names Lucy and Grange, the CEO of universal music

00:08:45.400 group. It also names like a haberdashian, whatever, how you say her name and a couple of the music

00:08:50.300 labels, like it names the whole group. And Lucy and Grange is a critical, like outward connecting

00:08:55.960 point. And it says that Lucy and Grange was attending these parties and funding these parties

00:08:59.940 where it was apparently open knowledge that there was underage girls. They were spiking drinks. It

00:09:05.160 talks about how they spike the drinks and how they had bottles for men and bottles for women

00:09:08.500 and all the bottles for women were spiked. And that was common knowledge. All the bottles for men

00:09:12.680 were regular. And it talked about how they would do that with champagne. They would, but then they

00:09:17.380 would also do it with like mixed drinks where they would spike all the juices and not all the

00:09:20.500 alcohols. These parties were funded by the alcohol company and the music labels. Yeah, it's wild.

00:09:25.680 But then it also, the Michael Jackson connection that's trippy is that his head of security,

00:09:32.360 Fahim Muhammad, is named in the law, like he's not named as one of the co-conspirators,

00:09:37.280 but his picture is in the lawsuit. His name is in the lawsuit. It talks about him. He's their fixer.

00:09:41.860 And Fahim Muhammad was Michael Jackson's head of security when Michael Jackson died. He was like

00:09:48.840 24 at the time, 22 at the time or something. He was one year out of college when Michael Jackson

00:09:53.060 died. And he was Michael Jackson's head of security. He had a business and marketing degree

00:09:56.680 from some college. Then one year later, he's the head of security for the King of Pop who dies.

00:10:01.560 And then he immediately gets rewarded by going and being Diddy's head of security. When you're the

00:10:07.420 head of security for a blackmail ring where there's like drugs everywhere, underage girls drink,

00:10:11.860 like the job of being head of security for that is to know where all those things are. Right.

00:10:16.020 And we should say like with Michael Jackson, that his doctor killed him supposedly. Did two years.

00:10:21.960 Supposedly, right? Did two years. Did two years. He was killed with propofol. They call that the

00:10:25.800 milk of the opiates. Yep. And yeah, that connection is bizarre. We have just jumped over the mountain

00:10:32.000 on this. Like, whoa, Michael Jackson was killed. What's going on? His doctor was administering

00:10:37.480 propofol, I believe to help with pain and or sleep. Help him sleep. And gave him too much.

00:10:42.600 Well, that's the, no one was there when he, when he died. Like allegedly he overdosed himself or

00:10:47.620 something like that. We don't really know. All we know is that the doctor was theoretically first

00:10:51.120 on the scene. And then Fahim Muhammad did, he's head of security was second on the scene. Right.

00:10:55.000 Doctor went to jail. I don't think anything happened to security. No, Fahim Muhammad got rewarded as you

00:10:59.100 say. And then suddenly he's in charge of Diddy's blackmail ring. And so in the lawsuit to get back to

00:11:02.940 the lawsuit, Fahim Muhammad is in charge of all the logistics and he's the fixer. It talks about a

00:11:08.020 shooting that happened in a bathroom a while back where like the cops came and they saw

00:11:12.540 the bathroom that was full of blood. And Diddy just told everyone say it was a drive by out on

00:11:16.680 the street, just like, and Fahim will make it all go away. Like they had specific instructions that

00:11:21.600 everyone that worked for Diddy, cause he made them all carry drugs for him. So he could just get high

00:11:25.660 at any moment, anywhere he is. Um, like including the maids and stuff. They all have little baggies

00:11:30.100 of drugs. What the? Yeah. That's directly alleged. And they have pictures of the drugs. They like,

00:11:34.520 it's a wild. That's like a common thing. A lot of rappers do talk about having like a bag carry,

00:11:38.180 you know? Yeah. And they say that if you ever even get pulled over, so they don't go to jail.

00:11:42.260 Uh, so the rappers are to still go to jail. Yeah, exactly. But in this case, the rapper doesn't go

00:11:46.620 to jail cause everyone else is holding the drugs. Right. But then he says, if you ever get pulled

00:11:49.580 over, anything happens, you call Fahim and Fahim will make you go away. So Fahim allegedly has like

00:11:54.100 contacts with feds or with whatever. I, I would, my speculation is that Fahim is sort of a part

00:12:00.920 of the outbranching to whatever contacts he has, which is probably not like, like when we say,

00:12:06.220 is he a fed? We're not saying is the whole FBI in on this scheme. What we're saying is like,

00:12:11.740 are there factions within law enforcement agencies of some form that have like started running the

00:12:18.640 side gig? Yeah. Because I mean, the whole point of, of federal, of the like FBI, CI is that they're

00:12:23.800 all compartmentalized. So like that, that's the whole point of running covert ops is this one. No one

00:12:27.420 knows that one. No one knows. What if this is how all of mainstream celebrity operated up until the

00:12:33.100 advent of the internet, everybody on TV, they had something on you because, and not the entire

00:12:38.680 time, but like definitely following the Beatles, John Lennon and Yoko Onar are like, we, we oppose

00:12:44.300 the Vietnam war. Now we're going to use our massive public influence to get a whole generation of young

00:12:48.440 people to oppose the machine. They had to have been like, okay, we can never let this happen again.

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00:14:25.920 Hitty stuff. And this guy, Fahim, it sounds like this is just one department.

00:14:31.400 That's what I would think.

00:14:32.060 He's a middle manager, it sounds like.

00:14:33.560 That's what I would think.

00:14:34.260 Oh, bad thing happened. Call Fahim and then he calls his boss and says, yeah, here's what happened.

00:14:38.320 Like, okay. And so he's not even the one taking care of it. The machine is taking care of it.

00:14:42.040 Well, we should talk for a little bit about Clive Davis and we should jump up the chain one rung

00:14:47.460 because when Diddy came to prominence, like Tupac and Biggie are getting killed. It's 1992,

00:14:54.120 1994 era. And Diddy's just a dude. He's like 21 years old. He's a, what is he? He's an intern at

00:15:00.700 a record.

00:15:01.320 A&R, yeah.

00:15:01.720 And then he climbs the ladder a little bit on his own to an A&R. And then he founds Bad Boy Records

00:15:08.580 at 24 with, I mean, basically with the money that Clive Davis gave him. Clive Davis is like this

00:15:16.680 big shot. He's controlled like huge swaths of the music industry for ages. People like Janis Joplin,

00:15:21.840 I think the Grateful Dead, like big names all the way back. And Clive Davis sees, and Clive Davis is,

00:15:28.680 I'm just going to throw it out there, he's gay too. And there's a lot of allegations about Diddy

00:15:33.160 and, you know, so Clive Davis sees this young dude that's ready to party, ready to do whatever,

00:15:40.140 be a total thug. And he's like, this 24 year old dude is the perfect dude to represent my new record

00:15:44.820 label, Bad Boy Records. They found that. And then like the allegations in the lawsuit don't really go

00:15:51.440 back to the, all the way to the founding of Bad Boy, but they go back real far. And so the question is

00:15:56.440 like, was Bad Boy founded on this ethos from the start? Have they been doing this from the very

00:16:01.860 start? I think so. I think so. I mean, you take a look, you listen to Public Enemy. I'm not a big

00:16:09.660 fan of a lot of the stuff they wrote. Like they have a line in, it's funny, I'm playing Tony Hawk

00:16:14.040 too, and I'm like 15 years old and I'm just rocking on to bring the noise. And then I hear Chucky D go,

00:16:18.940 Farrakhan's a prophet that I think you ought to listen to. What he can say to you. And I'm just like,

00:16:23.060 yeah, whatever that means. And then my dad's like, my dad was like, that guy is not a good person.

00:16:27.840 I was like, I don't know. I'm just playing a skateboarding video game. But it is fascinating

00:16:30.980 that you can take a look at early rap and the ideas and the messaging, but not even rap.

00:16:38.240 Take a look at music. There's this meme where someone said they took rock from us because rock

00:16:42.980 used to convey meaning. And now what is music today? They have stripped it of meaning.

00:16:48.600 Well, it means do drugs, be a hoe, party incessantly, be a criminal.

00:16:53.740 Or be a Satanist, bang the devil.

00:16:58.220 What's that song by Sam Smith where the father is leaving the house to go to gay sex clubs?

00:17:03.100 Unholy.

00:17:03.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:17:05.280 Missed that one.

00:17:06.200 Viral on TikTok.

00:17:07.600 And now let's just think about like, what were the Beatles writing about? I mean, they're

00:17:11.360 like the pop band of pop bands.

00:17:13.180 Some of the older were writing about communism for a minute there, but then John Lennon renounced

00:17:17.960 like some of the communist stuff.

00:17:19.220 Sure.

00:17:19.660 They spoke out against him in the song.

00:17:20.840 Yeah, because Mao, then because they realized what Mao was doing, he specified Mao and, you

00:17:24.920 know, he's like, hey, that ain't the way.

00:17:26.380 Yeah.

00:17:26.660 You say you want a revolution.

00:17:27.420 Everybody wants to change the world.

00:17:28.400 But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you're not going to make with anybody

00:17:30.660 anyhow.

00:17:31.140 That's right.

00:17:32.180 Messages.

00:17:32.900 Yeah.

00:17:33.120 And then it slowly started to devolve.

00:17:35.740 And now we're in this world where I turn on, I'm driving in my car, I had Tesla, and it's

00:17:44.900 got like the top hits.

00:17:46.440 Yeah.

00:17:46.700 And I put on the 90s and there's like, when I played the 90s alternative station, a lot

00:17:52.220 of these songs are about like angst and like crisis and just, there's some meaning, not

00:17:58.420 all of it, don't get me wrong.

00:17:59.340 But I mean, even look at Creed, because Creed's had this resurgence with arms wide open.

00:18:04.200 It's not about having a son.

00:18:06.000 Can you take me higher?

00:18:07.180 I mean, then I turn on top hits and the song's like, tits and nests, tits and nests, doing

00:18:13.460 weed, doing weed.

00:18:14.700 And I'm like, wow.

00:18:15.420 Click that, make a song, everyone.

00:18:16.660 There is, I mean, like, so like I wrote a record called The Fall of Ideals in 2006,

00:18:21.900 and that was like what it was speaking to.

00:18:23.580 Like the idealistic things that people aspire to, people stop aspiring to things.

00:18:30.420 And I think that that is like, that goes hand in hand with like the fact that people don't

00:18:35.680 look for beautiful things or they reject beauty or the idea that even having beauty standards

00:18:41.520 is bad.

00:18:42.200 It's like even saying that this is beautiful and that's not beautiful is a negative thing.

00:18:46.300 You don't want to do that.

00:18:47.080 And I think that's bad.

00:18:48.340 And having aspirational goals, the society's become so cynical that it's like if you have

00:18:56.840 aspirations, people look at you like you're a weirdo.

00:18:59.640 Like if you're willing to put some effort into something and really try, there's so many

00:19:05.120 people that are just crabs in a bucket ready to pull you down.

00:19:08.000 And I think that that speaks to like the way that people kind of feel nihilistic nowadays.

00:19:12.480 I think they've been promoting nihilism and the destruction of beauty and legacy for years.

00:19:16.540 And then to briefly try to put context into two things we've been talking about, like

00:19:21.080 blackmail or counterculture music being subverted by the government.

00:19:27.520 Look at Hoover, J. Edgar Hoover, blackmailed supposedly by the mafia.

00:19:32.980 Meyer Lansky supposedly had photos of him cross-dressing.

00:19:36.620 He had a lot of supposed homosexual affairs with people that people saw in blue rooms.

00:19:41.140 I mean, the original one was him and his assistant, Clyde Tolson.

00:19:43.840 Right.

00:19:44.100 And then that's what got him to go do the rest of that shit, right?

00:19:46.060 The blue room, right.

00:19:46.680 Which when you talk about Diddy's wiretap rooms, that's just a newer version of the blue

00:19:50.520 room that Hoover was going to, right?

00:19:52.680 And then in terms of counterculture and rock music and pop culture being subverted, weird

00:19:57.860 scenes from Laurel Canyon, we were talking about before, is a great book that talks about how

00:20:00.960 in Laurel Canyon, it seems like the CIA subverted the counterculture anti-war movement saying,

00:20:07.380 we got to change all this and we're going to inject our own people into it and or subvert

00:20:13.720 it by giving them drugs and whatnot.

00:20:15.800 And you have the burning of Notre Dame.

00:20:18.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:20:19.900 I mean, I was thinking about that because that's wild.

00:20:22.640 The burning of Notre Dame, the fire that happened.

00:20:25.160 Yeah.

00:20:25.420 The arson that they don't want to say is arson.

00:20:27.280 Yeah.

00:20:27.880 And all the churches that were burned in Canada and Europe and things like that.

00:20:31.560 So I know that's pretty much outside of most of what we're talking about, but that's

00:20:35.540 what I think about when you're talking about the death of beauty.

00:20:37.400 It does seem like there's an assault on our cultural traditions.

00:20:42.500 And many of these are greatly rooted in tying us to our past, to our ancestors.

00:20:48.380 And it's literally being burned down.

00:20:51.860 Yeah.

00:20:52.280 Yeah.

00:20:52.480 And then, so back to, I got to call him Puff Daddy.

00:20:56.300 Yeah.

00:20:57.240 Sean Combs.

00:20:58.380 What do you call Sean Combs?

00:20:59.720 Puffy.

00:21:00.020 I grew up in the nineties.

00:21:01.420 He was Puffy or Puff Daddy.

00:21:02.560 Um, so when was he on your radar?

00:21:04.880 Like this, like this idea of Diddy as this person, dude, it just came on my radar when

00:21:09.240 the lawsuit dropped.

00:21:10.140 I like, wasn't even in this.

00:21:11.420 I was reporting on like BlackRock and like others, like, and then suddenly the lawsuit

00:21:15.300 dropped and I had gotten deep into the Epstein documents and like read through that and done

00:21:19.120 a whole bunch of like stuff on Twitter with Epstein documents.

00:21:21.620 And, and so when this lawsuit dropped, I felt primed and I was like, get me into this

00:21:24.920 lawsuit right away.

00:21:25.740 Right.

00:21:26.180 And then that just blew up and Candace picked it up and, and then like, I don't know, just

00:21:31.280 kind of went from there.

00:21:31.780 It's funny that, you know, I was, I said earlier about yay calling him a fed and that

00:21:35.280 was kind of a joke to people.

00:21:36.460 They had a very public falling out, uh, during like the white lives matter shirt situation

00:21:41.640 and everything that was going on at that time.

00:21:43.600 But when he was here and, uh, around that time, uh, and Diddy said, I'm going to meet

00:21:48.680 you in public and stuff.

00:21:50.180 Uh, and just started blowing up.

00:21:52.600 Yay did an interview on the drink champs, which is where he said a lot of things about

00:21:56.420 Diddy being a fed meek mill, stuff like that.

00:21:58.640 Uh, they took that interview down immediately.

00:22:00.360 It was one of the greater interviews ever done and, uh, it's still on there somewhere,

00:22:04.380 but who, who, who runs drink champs revolt TV, who owns revolt TV, puff daddy.

00:22:10.060 Yeah.

00:22:11.220 So, you know, all these things just interesting how they try to control the narrative.

00:22:15.000 You know, this guy, yay, like him or hate him.

00:22:17.300 He's always saying things that in my opinion, he's such a critical piece of this because

00:22:21.860 like the Harley Pasternak text message that he put out, like he's such a critical sort

00:22:26.700 of middle piece between like, it feels like he might've climbed up by playing ball, but

00:22:32.040 then he certainly didn't play ball at some point, but then he might be playing ball again.

00:22:35.340 And like, Oh yeah, I have whole problems with him now, but leading up to that whole

00:22:38.560 moment with the top, but the puff daddy stuff, he was calling out everything.

00:22:42.640 And he's talking about MK ultra.

00:22:44.040 They, he's saying they literally took my kids away.

00:22:45.660 They tried, they literally put him in a mental asylum, gave him drugs, things he was, you

00:22:50.000 know, speaking out about which you could connect to MK ultra to the Laurel Canyon thing.

00:22:52.540 I'm talking about to a blackmail stuff and then it all blew up and then he disappeared.

00:22:57.160 And, and did he seem to, uh, you know, get off with it.

00:23:00.840 There was this, uh, literally this viral thing that happened like 12 or 14 years ago, maybe

00:23:04.960 actually 16 years ago, someone found a Facebook page and it was this woman with very few friends

00:23:10.780 and she was posting these big, long winded, seemingly nonsensical posts.

00:23:16.680 It was like, it just looked like some middle-aged woman.

00:23:19.920 And there'd be a post where she said today, the oatmeal spoon flew over the car.

00:23:24.180 The car was driving at a high rate of speed.

00:23:25.880 The speed was 75 miles an hour.

00:23:27.500 And then I saw the man who was yelling at me about my grocery bag and just thousands and

00:23:33.460 thousands of these posts.

00:23:35.360 And there were a few conspiracy theories.

00:23:38.180 One, it's a crazy lady sitting in her house, locked away, just spamming.

00:23:42.860 Right.

00:23:43.760 Someone apparently claimed that she had worked intelligence for, uh, as a contractor.

00:23:49.260 I think someone found like a, uh, they looked up her name and they found someone who had

00:23:52.400 a similar name who was like a working in intelligence.

00:23:54.680 And then the conspiracy theory became that she's posting these crazy things because she's

00:24:01.060 actually working for intelligence.

00:24:03.060 And this is code where you have to like shift up a letter and look in a book to figure out

00:24:07.640 how you find what it actually means.

00:24:09.480 And then run it through a program that translates it into the, and what she's really doing is

00:24:12.780 conveying intelligence from like a dead drop message, like a dead drop message.

00:24:16.120 And then my favorite conspiracy theory was that she was retired from the intelligence

00:24:19.920 agencies, threatened to go public.

00:24:21.840 So they injected her with something to make her insane.

00:24:23.820 And then she's desperately trying to tell people, but her brain's been scrambled.

00:24:26.920 So she's spamming nonsense on Facebook.

00:24:28.880 At this point, I wouldn't put any of that.

00:24:30.340 That's the thing is like, I see it's all possible, right?

00:24:33.580 And when, when like you're looking at this stuff, like the Diddy case and all the things

00:24:36.680 you're talking about BlackRock, you have to kind of remain skeptical of your skepticism

00:24:39.780 because you're seeing like.

00:24:41.120 Well, now BlackRock is, no, that's just kind of what I cover a lot of probably why you're

00:24:45.800 saying that, right?

00:24:46.420 Right, right.

00:24:46.760 Well, I'm just saying, looking at like the, the network that they, that they create, right?

00:24:50.200 And a conspiracy where you can be like, we know this for sure, but really you've got

00:24:53.780 to operate in percentages of certainty.

00:24:55.120 It's like, this is likely that's unlikely.

00:24:57.960 We don't know what's going on.

00:24:59.240 It's when you're looking at any of these giant operations that have been going on, you

00:25:02.820 have to, and it's kind of becomes easy to connect it to anything, right?

00:25:06.020 Like what we were saying with Northwoods, anything happens in the world.

00:25:08.580 And on the news, I have a skepticism bias where I'm immediately, my gut reaction is it's

00:25:12.660 got to be skepticism, you know, of the situation, but it's not always that, right?

00:25:16.080 But, but with, with Diddy and Epstein, that they're very similar.

00:25:20.200 They actually are connected to the CIA.

00:25:21.740 I mean, it's like the CIA actually is doing everything in the world.

00:25:24.920 Now we're talking.

00:25:26.560 We can just take this all the way to 11 and just say, and the CIA is working for aliens

00:25:31.200 and the aliens.

00:25:32.540 Dude.

00:25:32.800 Yes.

00:25:33.060 This is the real question mark though, is like every conspiracy theory out there, they're like,

00:25:37.940 there's a wall between them and the alien conspiracy theories.

00:25:40.600 Yeah.

00:25:40.880 But like, but the problem is which aliens, right?

00:25:43.700 Is it the greys?

00:25:44.560 Bro.

00:25:44.920 The tall ones, the small ones.

00:25:46.340 Have you watched the show, Resident Alien?

00:25:47.960 No.

00:25:48.320 That show is so good.

00:25:49.360 Is it?

00:25:49.560 Alan Tudyk plays an alien that comes to earth and he was trying to wipe out all humanity,

00:25:54.580 but then he like ends up liking pizza too much.

00:25:56.920 I'm over.

00:25:57.780 There's like a scene where he's like, I will destroy the planet, but then there will be no

00:26:00.860 pizza.

00:26:01.400 I know I'll buy pizza first.

00:26:03.100 And I'm oversimplifying the show, but then there's like, there's other aliens on it and

00:26:06.960 the greys are trying to destroy the earth.

00:26:09.120 Funny.

00:26:09.420 So, I mean, I did spend the plane ride over here reading a declassified government document

00:26:12.920 from like 2016 that was all about their advanced aerial vehicles recovery programs and their

00:26:18.740 medical programs to deal with human injuries related to interaction with advanced, uh, advanced

00:26:23.520 aerial vehicles.

00:26:24.540 And then the way that they're trying to reverse engineer, uh, what the wording they used was

00:26:29.240 like trans space, time, dimensional technology.

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00:28:00.080 Are you talking about the guys who like got close to some type of UFO and then they were

00:28:05.480 thrown back?

00:28:06.780 No, I don't know.

00:28:07.900 It was a government program that was called Blue...

00:28:10.880 I would have to look at his name.

00:28:13.000 Bluebeam?

00:28:13.500 No, no, no.

00:28:14.180 Not Bluebeam.

00:28:14.780 2016 or recently.

00:28:15.580 Yeah, no.

00:28:15.880 Bluebeam is a whole other rabbit hole.

00:28:17.100 That's probably when the New York Times was reporting on off-world vehicles.

00:28:21.320 What did they say?

00:28:21.960 Off-world vehicles not of this earth or something was the phrasing.

00:28:24.760 Yeah, they keep changing their phrasing in weird ways.

00:28:27.120 I want to say this show embodies ADHD very well and it's my fault.

00:28:30.060 The one who brought up aliens.

00:28:31.060 We just went from Epstein, Diddy, and aliens.

00:28:33.580 But in my mind, that makes perfect sense.

00:28:35.240 Honestly, I might also have ADHD.

00:28:37.780 It's actually in the same sphere.

00:28:39.300 If true, how does it interact?

00:28:41.360 And if not, it's just such an interesting question.

00:28:44.560 And that's why every time I hear Alex Jones speak, because he's so far out in so many

00:28:48.840 directions, I always want someone to just ask him, so Alex, what's the alien connection

00:28:54.020 to that one?

00:28:54.900 Because he would just go off.

00:28:56.160 Oh, I mean, he's told us though.

00:28:57.740 Yeah.

00:28:58.160 It's not aliens.

00:28:58.880 It's interdimensional beings.

00:29:00.440 Yep.

00:29:00.920 And so that actually makes more sense in my opinion.

00:29:03.740 And based on the science, the amount of energy to travel from here to there, 100,000 light

00:29:09.980 years, folding space time and traveling between dimensions makes more sense.

00:29:13.320 Way more sense.

00:29:13.840 So I think Alex believes that interdimensional beings are influencing people, but we call

00:29:17.900 them angels and demons or something.

00:29:19.340 Yeah.

00:29:19.740 Yeah.

00:29:20.180 Yeah.

00:29:20.360 There you go.

00:29:20.720 Interdimensional beings and psychic vampires.

00:29:22.960 And Hillary is really close with some of them, I think would be the assumption there.

00:29:27.240 So when he says psychic vampires, if he's just talking about people that drain the life

00:29:31.720 out of you, that you're just like exhausted.

00:29:33.040 Yeah.

00:29:33.100 Not like they have fangs, although he might believe in those, but I think he means-

00:29:37.240 I feel like he walks the line, like you can believe that he believes in fangs or you

00:29:42.860 cannot believe that he believes in fangs.

00:29:45.460 And he would probably edify both positions if he were in front of you.

00:29:49.000 I asked him directly for the story in the book that had come out and he still doesn't

00:29:51.760 really give me the best answer.

00:29:52.880 Cause he does walk that line.

00:29:54.660 Yeah.

00:29:54.840 I think he, I think like myself, I think there are demons that walk amongst us and maybe

00:29:58.700 you might call them demons.

00:29:59.900 You might call them monsters or just people doing bad things, but psychic vampires in

00:30:03.880 my mind, for the most part, from his perspective is people in power who are draining like the

00:30:10.040 innocence out of you.

00:30:10.900 You know, it's wild that I see all these liberal secular people saying like, we live

00:30:15.140 in a simulation.

00:30:16.100 I watched some show on it.

00:30:18.140 I think it was on Netflix or something like, did you know that we live in a simulation,

00:30:20.720 like breaking it down, a bunch of clips on Instagram.

00:30:22.880 And I'm like, it's just religion one-on-one for people who are not religious, like trying

00:30:26.760 to entertain the idea that someone created everything we're in.

00:30:29.560 But that, uh, the ultimate point is with, you know, Alex Jones saying things like

00:30:33.640 interdimensional beings are trying to influence people.

00:30:36.320 Then we have the idea of angels and demons, the influence of, you know, evil and good.

00:30:41.100 It, yeah, maybe it's not so complicated as to say aliens, interdimensional beings, angels,

00:30:46.040 demons, it's, there are, there are forces beyond our comprehension trying to influence

00:30:50.720 us for good or bad.

00:30:52.300 And it may be, uh, and this is a big leap.

00:30:55.600 We know that there are bad people in government who are doing really messed up things because

00:30:58.840 we have a journalist who shot himself twice in the head and it was a suicide.

00:31:01.940 You've got Epstein, which, yep, all that was true.

00:31:04.660 Alex was right about that.

00:31:06.120 Real story.

00:31:06.520 And then there's this like spiritual or kind of like big leap component of, is there something

00:31:11.900 beyond our comprehension that actually is playing a direct role that powerful people

00:31:15.720 actually commune with in some way?

00:31:18.980 I think so.

00:31:20.060 I mean, those are basically the allegations.

00:31:21.500 And if you look at the whole disclosure aspect with like, uh, David Grush, um, that whole

00:31:27.500 disclosure thing is like, I mean, take, believe how much of it, like, you know, percentage

00:31:32.360 is a certainty.

00:31:32.860 But the allegation is that like, we've had contact in a big way.

00:31:36.680 We have recovered crafts and reverse engineering things and we need disclosure.

00:31:39.940 And at first there wasn't even disclosure within the government, like even like the people

00:31:44.380 that should be briefed, aren't briefed.

00:31:45.780 Why, why not?

00:31:46.680 And then like the government's answer was basically like, well, we were gonna brief, but like

00:31:50.440 y'all can't handle the truth.

00:31:52.220 It's sort of how it sounds, right?

00:31:53.440 And that's their lack of transparency is why it makes a lot of people leap to these perceptions

00:31:58.600 of aliens and control or you name whatever silo of evil you believe is behind all of this,

00:32:03.740 you know, but that's it.

00:32:05.100 What if, what if evil is just an oversimplification, right?

00:32:07.400 The analogy I use being the chicken coop we have outside, I don't care which chicken is

00:32:11.220 in charge.

00:32:12.080 I don't, there's a pecking order.

00:32:13.460 There's a, there's a top girl, there's a top guy.

00:32:15.200 I don't care who is who.

00:32:16.500 That's a really good analogy.

00:32:17.460 Actually.

00:32:18.160 They, they right now, they care, they fight, they do their thing where they like stretch

00:32:21.420 their necks out and wiggle at each other.

00:32:23.000 And then we just stand and I'm like, literally don't care.

00:32:25.280 If there's a rooster that's causing a problems, he's food.

00:32:27.860 I'm just trying to eat.

00:32:29.160 Right.

00:32:29.660 Yeah.

00:32:29.940 Yeah.

00:32:30.120 We don't, we don't care about chicken politics.

00:32:31.560 And so if they, so, you know, to remove the, the, the, uh, I, I, I guess more, um, I don't

00:32:39.380 know, imaginary component, aliens, international beings.

00:32:42.660 I don't even think that the CIA, the intelligence agencies and the people controlling Diddy care

00:32:48.240 about who, who the president is and what we do.

00:32:50.680 Well, as long as it serves their interest, right?

00:32:52.620 Yeah.

00:32:52.940 Like, as in like the CIA has a lot, like basically CIA is professional government overthrowers.

00:32:57.280 Like that's their history since their founding is go overthrow all those governments and install

00:33:01.360 dictatorships that will be pro America.

00:33:02.840 So that communism doesn't spread.

00:33:04.120 And then they just couldn't fucking stop.

00:33:06.200 Gladio.

00:33:06.640 They just love it.

00:33:07.560 It's just so good.

00:33:08.640 We just have to overthrow more governments, please.

00:33:11.300 And so like, you're right.

00:33:13.820 They don't, they don't care who's who, but it's to them, it's more like who's made, which

00:33:19.020 moves are being made and who's going to align with which interests.

00:33:21.320 It's like, if it's that guy, that guy, whatever.

00:33:23.160 It's kind of wild.

00:33:23.720 You create this, this agency whose role is to operate in secret and overthrow governments.

00:33:28.820 Yeah.

00:33:29.360 You are.

00:33:29.800 It's like, it's like creating a virus.

00:33:31.640 What could possibly go wrong?

00:33:32.720 Being surprised when it infects you.

00:33:34.760 So then you, you set this thing loose.

00:33:36.640 There's no stopping it.

00:33:37.360 Yeah.

00:33:37.520 Right.

00:33:38.240 I mean, but let's be clear.

00:33:39.920 They've never overthrown the American government.

00:33:41.860 They have never done any operations towards us.

00:33:44.320 So like, we're good.

00:33:45.480 Totally safe.

00:33:46.060 I just want to be clear on that.

00:33:47.340 They wouldn't do that to us.

00:33:48.540 That like the CIA has never had any involvement in any of the American presidents.

00:33:53.300 Northwoods was for your protection.

00:33:54.500 Getting hit in the head by things or anything like that.

00:33:56.780 JFK.

00:33:57.400 Actually, there wasn't even a shooter at all.

00:33:58.860 There really wasn't.

00:33:59.280 His head spontaneously exploded.

00:34:00.500 It was actually an alien with alien brain rays.

00:34:03.980 Man.

00:34:04.400 And then to tie all that back to Hoover.

00:34:06.420 I mean, yeah.

00:34:07.200 So Meyer Lansky's having cross-dressing photos of him being passed around.

00:34:11.200 You know, the mob supposedly running things behind the scene.

00:34:14.100 They're allowed to grow without Hoover really giving him any reprimands.

00:34:18.800 And he's in charge during the assassination of JFK.

00:34:22.180 The story is that he knew something that might have happened and look the other way.

00:34:26.440 You can make bells go off in people's minds.

00:34:29.500 A lot of other things that have happened in this country that are like terrorist activity.

00:34:33.060 I mean, if anyone doesn't, everyone should know, like audience out there, you should

00:34:36.580 know that J. Edgar Hoover founded the FBI and was in charge of it for over 50 years.

00:34:42.660 50 years.

00:34:43.600 Yes.

00:34:44.120 That's crazy.

00:34:45.060 Crazy.

00:34:45.420 And basically the whole time he was blackmailed by the mob and the mafia.

00:34:49.680 So the whole, and that's like the time, like when you think about like Tommy guns and the

00:34:53.880 mafia and like, Hey, just do it.

00:34:55.520 But like that whole time period, the mafia grew so much.

00:34:59.260 The mob grew so much because they had the FBI captured.

00:35:02.340 And he was blackmailing people himself.

00:35:04.900 And he was basically a mob operation.

00:35:06.520 Exactly.

00:35:06.980 This is why, you know, I was having this conversation with Michael Malice about private police forces.

00:35:10.620 And I was saying, I don't agree.

00:35:11.980 I don't like the idea of private police forces.

00:35:13.260 He said it would operate like the mafia.

00:35:15.000 And when the mafia had territorial disputes, they got together and they talked about it.

00:35:18.480 The problem is what we're seeing right now in government is the mafia with, with no,

00:35:22.600 with no contest.

00:35:23.700 A hundred percent.

00:35:24.220 So they get rid of whoever there's no justice when you're under mob rule.

00:35:27.980 And that's literally what's going on right now with the, it's, it's everything we're

00:35:32.020 seeing with them going after Trump.

00:35:33.300 What we're, what we saw with Epstein, what we see with, with Diddy appears to be, there

00:35:37.380 was only one mafia left and now they're unchecked.

00:35:40.000 Well, I would contend, this is just my opinion, but I would contend that the CIA has been very

00:35:44.280 close with the military industrial complex for a long time.

00:35:46.760 And at certain point, those interests are indistinguishable them and the banking, like all of those

00:35:52.120 things, they were kind of all, and, and I would, I would contend that at this

00:35:56.120 point, our government has like, Biden is, seems to be doing exactly what they would

00:36:02.380 want him to do.

00:36:03.120 And it like, it looks very much like we are being led by the military industrial complex.

00:36:09.860 It's pretty clear that the, that Joe Biden is not the actual guy running, you know, running

00:36:14.300 the show, calling the shots.

00:36:15.720 Um, whether people think that like, you know, president Obama is, you know, making phone

00:36:21.880 calls and saying, this is what we should do through his surrogates and stuff, or whether

00:36:24.860 it's just the machine running itself because the Democrat party generally knows where, what

00:36:30.760 the policy, you know, the policy positions it's looking for, whether that be foreign policy

00:36:36.160 or, or, uh, domestic policy.

00:36:38.460 And so it can run on automatic autopilot for the most part.

00:36:42.500 Um, whichever one you want to choose, they're equally as likely, I think, you know, but I would

00:36:49.200 be more at ease if we found out that in fact, Joe Biden was not the president and aliens are

00:36:53.960 actually running things because then there's at least some kind of intelligent entity that's

00:36:57.560 in control.

00:36:58.280 That's kind of comforting despite terrifying right now.

00:37:01.860 If, if, if it is true that Joe Biden is the president, they follow this guy's orders.

00:37:05.820 I don't believe that.

00:37:06.280 Oh, there's not a chance.

00:37:07.600 You're, you're, imagine being in on, on a, on a, on a, on a, you're in an F1 race or

00:37:11.760 whatever, or I shouldn't say F1 cause you got passengers.

00:37:13.880 Let's say you're in a, you're in, you know, like NASCAR stock car racing or whatever.

00:37:17.420 And Joe Biden's the driver and he's, his eyes are half closed and he's like, and you're

00:37:21.280 a passenger.

00:37:21.740 That, that is not a fun thing to be on.

00:37:23.340 Then you find out, no, no, no, no, no.

00:37:24.500 The car's on a track.

00:37:25.280 It can't move.

00:37:25.760 Oh, if he's the president, he's on, if he's the president at all, he's only the president

00:37:30.620 from like six, seven in the morning until noon.

00:37:34.200 And then that's it.

00:37:35.400 Then he, then they don't take any, that's, that's, I would, I would have said, and I did

00:37:40.620 say this like last year, I thought, no, I think he's the president.

00:37:43.340 And I think the Afghanistan withdrawal and all these catastrophes are because he's a

00:37:48.160 muttering moron who can't function properly anymore.

00:37:50.940 And so there's no central leadership.

00:37:52.100 There's just, there's like semi-autonomy among his commanders and lieutenants figuratively

00:37:57.180 and literally.

00:37:57.700 Well, exactly.

00:37:58.340 But now after seeing that video of him say, Israel should not attack Israel and his eyes

00:38:03.240 are half closed and he's doing cornholio.

00:38:05.140 It's the cornholio hands that, that, cause apparently the cornholio thing is, is like a,

00:38:09.860 it means, yeah, when people are demented.

00:38:12.340 And I don't mean like an insult, I mean literally suffering dementia.

00:38:15.260 They, they cornholio and they walk around like, and his eyes can't open.

00:38:19.300 And he's like, Israel shouldn't attack Israel.

00:38:21.500 There was the Israel shouldn't attack Israel, which happened this past weekend.

00:38:24.380 Correct.

00:38:25.040 Also.

00:38:25.540 It's good advice though.

00:38:26.080 I mean, that is good advice.

00:38:27.360 There was the, there was the Mexican border.

00:38:29.860 He mixed up Rafa and Hoffa.

00:38:32.020 That was it.

00:38:32.620 That was the same one.

00:38:33.320 That was the Israel.

00:38:33.980 He said, he said, Israel should stay out of Haifa.

00:38:36.760 Yeah.

00:38:36.980 Haifa or whatever.

00:38:38.280 Yeah.

00:38:38.420 And so he mixed up the town.

00:38:39.300 But it's like, is he saying they should abandon the city?

00:38:41.940 And so he also said something that I would personally endorse, which is, which was that

00:38:46.280 we're, we're not going to lose our freedom for, or in place of democracy or something like

00:38:50.360 that.

00:38:50.500 He, he put freedom over democracy.

00:38:52.400 Yes, we should put freedom over democracy.

00:38:54.480 That's the point of a republic.

00:38:55.940 Yeah.

00:38:55.960 But he didn't mean to say that.

00:38:56.920 No, he didn't mean to say that.

00:38:58.080 And that's, that's another thing that sucks for him, for my position.

00:39:01.460 It's like, he says something I like and he's like, oh, you know.

00:39:03.760 What was that other gaff he had about the truth?

00:39:05.520 You remember this one?

00:39:06.840 Oh.

00:39:07.300 Truth over facts.

00:39:08.100 You can't keep up with that.

00:39:08.740 Truth over facts.

00:39:09.440 Yeah.

00:39:09.880 Truth over facts.

00:39:11.020 Yeah.

00:39:11.540 You know, so I mean, look.

00:39:13.240 And what I love is when he says, are you ready to like fight for freedom over democracy?

00:39:17.740 Everyone starts clapping and cheering.

00:39:18.900 Yeah.

00:39:19.020 Yeah.

00:39:19.200 And I'm like, I don't understand what they're clapping for.

00:39:21.200 Yeah.

00:39:21.400 What's going on?

00:39:22.040 I think he's a metaphor for the country.

00:39:23.880 Yeah.

00:39:24.020 You know, like he speaks to the problems of the whole audience and the world at large.

00:39:29.200 It is a metaphor for, it probably is a metaphor for boomers staying in control as long as they have.

00:39:35.160 Yeah.

00:39:35.500 You know.

00:39:35.800 Yes.

00:39:36.420 Yeah.

00:39:36.760 And people pushing around that influence and taking the vacuum that's left of that like lack of cohesion.

00:39:43.660 Right.

00:39:43.760 I'm going to blame the millennials too.

00:39:45.460 But I.

00:39:46.100 Gen X just kind of stayed out of it.

00:39:47.440 I want to give a shout out to Dennis Kucinich.

00:39:49.920 We had him on Timcastle IRL.

00:39:51.540 He's 77.

00:39:52.320 He ran up the stairs.

00:39:53.440 Yeah.

00:39:53.800 Yeah.

00:39:54.040 He was sharp.

00:39:54.980 Yeah.

00:39:55.160 So, you know.

00:39:56.020 There are some gems in the mix.

00:39:57.420 We've had, we have a lot of guests come on.

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00:41:29.680 But we've had people who are in their 30s who walk really slowly grabbing the rail and they're like out of shape.

00:41:36.900 And I'm like, wow, I always run up the stairs full.

00:41:39.040 So my legs are, I skateboard, right?

00:41:41.580 So when Dennis Kucinich comes and he's 77, wearing a nice suit, and I'm like, he's going to have to, you know, make it upstairs.

00:41:47.500 He skipped steps up from the basement.

00:41:50.540 And I was like, he was, he was like lunging up the stairs.

00:41:55.100 And then I was like, after the show, I was like, I just want to mention, you're 77, you lunged up two flights of stairs.

00:42:00.480 He's like, yeah.

00:42:01.920 And I was like, we have people in their 30s who struggle with, with two flights of stairs.

00:42:05.340 And he's like, he's like, I'm in better shape than I've ever been.

00:42:08.040 And I'm like, this guy, this guy's ready for action.

00:42:10.140 He looked good.

00:42:11.000 He was dressed well.

00:42:12.480 He was dressed very well.

00:42:13.760 Looked dapper.

00:42:14.540 You know, he looked great.

00:42:15.340 Him for president.

00:42:16.920 Yeah, Dennis is great.

00:42:17.800 To your point about the military industrial complex, I think that obviously is absorbed into Hollywood.

00:42:22.700 There's no distinction between that.

00:42:23.680 Someone a long time ago in some books said there's no distinction between the mafia and the government.

00:42:27.180 So throw Hollywood and the corporate press in there as well.

00:42:29.740 And those are the things that are helping keep this appearance of Biden up, which is obviously deteriorating.

00:42:33.660 But there's a lot of people in this country who still think they're going to vote for Biden and that he's in control.

00:42:37.300 But that makes me think of like FDR and the corporate press hiding his faulty legs.

00:42:41.500 So that was that that poll that MSNBC put out that we did talk a little bit about how Biden was was leading Trump and people were upset about it.

00:42:49.880 And I think it's that is real.

00:42:51.720 But I don't think pardon me.

00:42:52.960 I don't think that they're voting for Biden.

00:42:56.600 I think that they're voting against Republicans.

00:42:58.900 Because I think it's about abortion.

00:43:01.300 I think it's strongly about abortion.

00:43:03.180 Maybe like they will.

00:43:04.780 They don't they don't.

00:43:05.540 Donald Trump doesn't give them a reason.

00:43:07.240 Right.

00:43:07.500 So they don't like Republicans and Donald Trump doesn't bridge that gap for women.

00:43:12.540 There's a question of.

00:43:16.940 I'm sorry, I like I would.

00:43:18.700 There's a lot of people I would vote for before I would vote for Joe Biden.

00:43:21.580 It's insane.

00:43:22.440 And and like Hillary Clinton.

00:43:26.240 I mean, she's a she's a psychotic monster.

00:43:28.900 But if it was the choice of the two of them, Joe Biden is zero.

00:43:31.120 He is zero.

00:43:31.740 You cannot vote for Joe Biden under any circumstances.

00:43:33.660 Actually, I don't think you find someone I would vote for Joe over Hillary.

00:43:36.660 Would you really?

00:43:37.140 Yeah, because Hillary is an active tool of the military industrial complex.

00:43:40.780 Actually, a fair, fair point.

00:43:41.920 Fair point.

00:43:42.220 She's good.

00:43:42.640 So let me let me restructure the hierarchy.

00:43:44.700 Then what what what I mean to say is Joe Biden's brain doesn't function at all.

00:43:48.940 And literally anyone as bad as they are, a functioning brain is less scary.

00:43:52.060 That being said, I would take no functioning brain over evil Hillary Clinton.

00:43:56.180 I think that I think that's you.

00:43:57.900 But I think that the people that are that were saying that they would not vote for Donald Trump.

00:44:02.500 I think that they they don't care about Joe Biden because they look at the situation now.

00:44:07.220 They're not hurting enough.

00:44:09.340 This is going to get me in trouble.

00:44:11.060 There are not enough women getting punched in the face in New York to change their mind.

00:44:16.020 Bill's new bumper sticker.

00:44:17.220 Let me say this, too.

00:44:18.020 That was that was a good point, because now that I think about it, like to analogize, being in a car with us like which which car would you rather be?

00:44:27.500 Joe Biden falling asleep and you screaming or Hillary Clinton intentionally running down the best dreams.

00:44:32.860 Right.

00:44:33.120 Like she did in Haiti, like all the crack that was coming in.

00:44:38.460 We're talking about earlier, like don't look into MENA, Arkansas and who was the governor of Arkansas and how the crack came in.

00:44:46.260 Like, yeah, I've said on IRL before the Clintons single handedly destroyed Haiti.

00:44:51.600 Yeah.

00:44:52.080 Bill did it by the tariffs he did with with the rice crops.

00:44:54.900 Not to mention Epstein.

00:44:56.060 Not to mention Epstein.

00:44:57.600 To also point out to Phil, next week we are literally going to be effectively debating how many women need to be punched in the face in New York for them to change their voting pen.

00:45:08.060 And I'm not saying they need to be.

00:45:09.380 I'm going to let you guys take that one.

00:45:10.940 I'm saying, like, is there a have you guys ever watched Silicon Valley?

00:45:16.120 So there's the scene where I don't know.

00:45:18.800 I've not watched.

00:45:19.700 I've only watched it on tidbits, but there's a viral scene where they start trying to figure out the math of how one of the dudes could jerk off an entire audience.

00:45:26.380 Because because the one guy is like insults him and then he's like, you know, you may as well just like jerk off the audience.

00:45:33.160 Like, how would he be able to do that?

00:45:34.160 It would take 40 minutes and like they start doing the math to try and figure out how possible how it would be possible.

00:45:38.700 It's funny.

00:45:39.380 And then we're going to the question is, is there an equation of women times punched in the face equals vote for Trump or something?

00:45:47.460 You know what I mean?

00:45:47.840 Like how many, you know, there totally is.

00:45:50.160 You're right.

00:45:50.520 Yeah, there's an equation there.

00:45:51.720 Yeah, there is.

00:45:52.300 And we're going to have that conversation next week on the culture war with some expand out of that.

00:45:57.160 And it's just like, how many women wars do you want to start?

00:45:59.480 Yeah.

00:45:59.940 Like, because like, I know what you're saying about the women voters and people voting against Trump for Biden.

00:46:05.460 But then I'm looking at Biden.

00:46:07.340 I've got to put it in quotes.

00:46:08.020 It's not it's not it's like a husk of a human on TV shows.

00:46:10.900 They're they're they don't care about the person they're looking at.

00:46:14.260 They think the system will take care of the system long enough to get past Biden.

00:46:18.540 And Donald Trump is and Republicans will do all the things that Democrats say.

00:46:24.120 So all the they're going to they're going to get rid of Donald Trump's going to get rid of the birth control pill.

00:46:28.020 He's going to get rid of like he's going to do all that.

00:46:29.820 I see straight up believing the handmaidens.

00:46:32.300 Totally.

00:46:32.680 I see all that, too.

00:46:33.360 But I also see so many people on on the Internet, which take it or leave it, they champion Biden as being this like strong leader, you know, look at him, look at him on Seth Meyers or on Colbert.

00:46:45.780 Well, a lot of them are paid to say that narrative building.

00:46:48.140 But it's but it's people in the audience, too, you know, like the comments and the way he's perceived they're creating like because it's part of the military industrial complex, this perception of him that he's strong.

00:46:59.260 I don't I don't I don't disagree with you at all.

00:47:01.720 I don't have any kind of like I think I agree that people are doing that and stuff.

00:47:06.900 I just think that those people are the ones that are kind of, you know, they're they're narrative building.

00:47:11.500 They're sending the message out to the people, to the women that are watching MSNBC that are like F Donald Trump.

00:47:16.240 Never, not at all.

00:47:16.980 They're just propaganda.

00:47:18.140 They're propaganda.

00:47:18.840 Kimmel, Seth Meyers, Colbert, obviously all say the same thing.

00:47:23.080 They get the same speaking points.

00:47:24.380 Yeah.

00:47:24.660 I mean, the only people that step out of line is like Bill Maher.

00:47:27.420 And whether or not you're a fan of Bill Maher, whether you agree, this isn't really the point.

00:47:32.300 He is he is one of the people that are starting to to stick their head up and say, these are these are wrong.

00:47:38.060 Chris Cuomo.

00:47:38.660 Yeah.

00:47:39.500 And further left.

00:47:40.720 I'm even fairly impressed with Brianna Wu lately on Twitter.

00:47:43.860 She's been saying some really, really positive stuff.

00:47:46.160 And getting attacked by communists.

00:47:48.620 These people need to get props.

00:47:50.100 Yeah.

00:47:50.360 Because like absolutely the best way for people to come to the middle and have real discussions as humans, not like necessarily change sides, but just like talk like adults is to watch other people that they've idolized have that journey.

00:48:01.100 Exactly.

00:48:01.500 There needs to be someone that's inside these places, which is another reason why Anna Kasperian from the other one.

00:48:07.240 There are people inside those communities that do believe the things that a lot of the people in the community believe and they agree with, but they're willing to stand up and say, hey, these things are actually bad.

00:48:20.620 Because right now the left has become such a an echo chamber.

00:48:25.300 Right.

00:48:25.520 They're literally like literally when Anna Kasperian was freaking out, she was like, she first was like, hey, they chopped a guy up, guys.

00:48:32.320 We don't you can't say that's OK.

00:48:34.020 You're going to lose everything if you're like, well, it's OK that he chopped a guy up.

00:48:37.760 You know, didn't she also say she would have done the exact same thing as Kyle Rittenhouse?

00:48:41.220 I think she did.

00:48:41.880 Yeah.

00:48:42.020 Once.

00:48:42.300 Yes.

00:48:42.540 Once she actually looked at it.

00:48:43.480 But again, she had not watched the actual video.

00:48:47.500 She had.

00:48:47.840 That's the key.

00:48:48.720 She had been informed.

00:48:49.460 She was believing who she was believing the things that she was told and kudos to her for finally watching and changing her opinion again.

00:48:56.220 But it's not like it is not unreasonable to think that people that you're arguing with are not only misinformed, but they're intentionally informed of wrong information.

00:49:08.520 And because of the narrative building that the that the right is always bad and the right is always clowns and the right are always evil because of that narrative building.

00:49:16.460 And any stories or any perspective from the right is is first disregarded.

00:49:22.160 Right.

00:49:22.340 And that was intentional by people that the the people that whether whatever you want to actually could I make.

00:49:28.520 I would argue that it's first misrepresented so that it is disregarded.

00:49:32.580 Right.

00:49:33.040 Like, yes, because first they have to misquote it to clip it up, to take out the context and then present it to the left.

00:49:39.460 Because why would the left and this is like the same is true in the other direction.

00:49:42.460 But it's like, why would you ever listen to the other side's arguments?

00:49:44.840 Because they're all crazy evil people.

00:49:46.220 So I'm just going to let my guy like Colbert give it to me in a funny way that's way more digestible.

00:49:50.800 And all this stuff that we're talking about that we focus on or I'm focusing saying on the left right now, all this stuff used to be the right in the United States.

00:49:57.880 It used to be the right that did this.

00:49:58.980 It used to be the right that ran the culture.

00:50:00.560 So it's not it's not one side does it and the other other doesn't.

00:50:03.740 It's who has control.

00:50:05.360 I think the military industrial complex realized that the collectivist party by nature, like leftists are naturally more like law and order collective, like like regulate us, please.

00:50:14.440 Like that side is easier, actually, for them to achieve their means now, whereas it used to be the big money on the Republican side was like the spot.

00:50:21.340 Now the problem is Israel.

00:50:23.760 The deep state backed the Democrats and now they're all anti-Israel.

00:50:26.620 How like that's like an issue that like cuts around through both parties and suddenly like actually the base issue for like anyone's discussions is actually like kind of your stance on that if you let it be.

00:50:38.300 Right.

00:50:38.480 Which is like really like that.

00:50:40.180 No one realized that.

00:50:41.220 Oh, I love watching people say we should not fund war in Ukraine, but then turn around and say we should fund Israel.

00:50:46.060 I'm like, let's just focus on this collapsing country right now.

00:50:48.720 Yeah.

00:50:48.920 Cause we're defunct and maybe like at least have a little bit of continuity in your own opinions.

00:50:53.400 Like, just like, you know, whatever your opinion is, have your opinion.

00:50:58.100 Like that's cool.

00:50:58.880 Respect.

00:50:59.360 But, but like, please at least make that make sense.

00:51:02.320 If you're going to, yeah, if you're going to make the, if you're going to make the, the geopolitical world order that we have now should be upheld argument, which is the argument that you're making for Israel and for, uh, for, for Ukraine, you probably should make them both and be consistent.

00:51:22.080 Like, I get it if you're like, look, I don't think, cause I, you know, I don't think the U S should be doing foreign policy or doing foreign aid and stuff.

00:51:29.460 I'm kind of, you don't want them funding both sides.

00:51:31.420 We kind of have some shit we need to deal with over here.

00:51:33.460 Like, and that's, that's, that's my opinion.

00:51:36.460 And, and there is, there are tons of arguments that people that want a more active foreign policy and believe the United States should be involved in, in shaping the, uh, and shaping what other countries policies are.

00:51:51.520 And, and doing everything we can to make sure that we get positive outcomes for the United States.

00:51:55.840 Um, they're going to make a different argument, but you can't, like, I find it real hard to believe that you think we shouldn't give money to you, to Israel, but we should give money to Ukraine or vice versa.

00:52:07.720 Right.

00:52:07.960 There's no moral consistency.

00:52:09.460 No, actually, can we, this is a good place to tie back to what we started on in that a population that is constantly entertained and constantly filled with filth and degeneracy and sloth.

00:52:20.500 And like with base desires, like that is a population that's so much easier to propagandize and to blackmail.

00:52:28.000 Like, for example, if you fill the population at an early age with like rap and hoes and porn and just all this stuff, then when they grow up to be politicians, to be scientists, to be professors, you have this wide open space where it's like, oh, you have deep, dark desires.

00:52:42.540 We can blackmail.

00:52:43.240 You have greed.

00:52:44.080 You have like this secret that we've already got on tape.

00:52:46.380 It's just so much more controllable of a landscape, plus the entertainment is a great distraction from anyone actually paying attention to politics or anyone actually learning about the financial system and how shit's really working.

00:52:56.320 Meanwhile, they think they're the moral arbiters, you know, but they've been planting the seeds of degeneracy the whole way.

00:53:01.380 Exactly.

00:53:01.600 And then it's so funny thinking of Diddy and then thinking of his whole problem with Ye in the beginning was the White Lives Matter shirt.

00:53:08.520 Diddy literally wore a shirt with the Clinton that said, voter die, right?

00:53:14.040 No one had a problem with that.

00:53:15.340 That was on MTV.

00:53:16.280 And then South Park made fun of that too.

00:53:17.800 Diddy shows up to people's houses and like, did you vote?

00:53:19.900 South Park's really on it.

00:53:21.740 I love South Park.

00:53:22.480 All the time.

00:53:22.920 Yeah.

00:53:23.540 Yeah.

00:53:23.900 But that's like, that's not a problem.

00:53:26.100 He can totally do that, but it's because he's part of the narrative building.

00:53:28.920 He's totally accepted, you know, and by that point in the, what was that, the late nineties when that was happening, maybe early two thousands with the voter die stuff.

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00:54:50.880 Weird, I don't remember saying that part.

00:54:53.200 He was totally accepted and probably, obviously, in my opinion, absorbed into whatever he's been a part of.

00:55:09.280 You want to know who else is totally accepted that no one's talking about yet is Jay-Z.

00:55:13.820 Oh, dude.

00:55:14.400 And Beyonce.

00:55:15.360 Yeah, that doesn't surprise me either.

00:55:17.620 I'm kind of almost like, my vibe right now is like, they really cut Diddy off and threw him out, right?

00:55:22.380 Like, he was under protection for the longest time.

00:55:24.620 Shootings were going away, like, the whole Cassie lawsuit just like, psh.

00:55:27.480 But then suddenly, they're throwing him out.

00:55:29.640 And it looks a lot to me like, don't look any further outside the rap industry.

00:55:35.400 Don't, like, just take him and go.

00:55:37.300 Like, don't connect him to the other, whatever else is going on.

00:55:40.040 And the moment, like, Jay-Z and him have been tight for a very long time, doing a lot of the same stuff.

00:55:44.680 Except, Jay-Z is way more tied to politics and way more tied to, like, Obama and to, like, Marina Abramovich and, like, all those other, like, pizzagate-y things.

00:55:55.280 Spirit cooking.

00:55:55.900 Yeah, the moment you go to Jay-Z and Beyonce, everything's wide open.

00:55:59.540 I totally agree.

00:56:00.240 Not to mention the executives above Diddy.

00:56:01.700 It's just like with Epstein, when things were coming out, you know, people want to talk about Dershowitz and stuff.

00:56:07.200 Totally fine.

00:56:07.920 We should be talking about it.

00:56:08.860 But a year ago, there were, like, four billionaires subpoenaed for their connections to Epstein.

00:56:13.360 No one's talking about them.

00:56:14.320 And it's, like, the Disney guy, the Google co-founder.

00:56:17.240 Yeah, big time.

00:56:18.300 And those names aren't in, like, the...

00:56:20.180 Bill Gates.

00:56:20.920 In the conversation at all, right?

00:56:22.000 Bill Gates is, to a degree, but they kind of write him off.

00:56:24.600 And they kind of rewrote the history of Bill Gates and Epstein so they can make it seem like Epstein wasn't as involved in Microsoft as he probably was.

00:56:30.540 And, like, he didn't meet him until a lot later in his life.

00:56:32.620 Right.

00:56:32.900 Yeah.

00:56:33.060 It makes no sense.

00:56:33.680 But that's what they do.

00:56:34.400 And I just keep thinking of one of the greater interviews from this year that happened was the beginning of the year, Cat Williams.

00:56:39.820 Uh-huh.

00:56:40.180 There's God's side, and there's the other side.

00:56:43.800 And the Jay-Z stuff, in my opinion...

00:56:46.120 He didn't say this, but I was just me saying this.

00:56:48.040 And the Diddy stuff, that's the other side.

00:56:50.240 That's the other side.

00:56:50.520 The Abramovich stuff, all that stuff, you know?

00:56:52.720 And maybe it's coming to light, and that's obviously great.

00:56:55.600 It's not the top of this tower.

00:56:57.740 I mean, really, what it's starting to look like is, like Tim was saying earlier, it feels like what we're getting is we're getting little, like, pools that are being exposed, and, like, the fish of that pond gets thrown out.

00:57:07.980 Right.

00:57:08.140 But, like, when you start to look up, it looks more like a network that would have many more pools than that.

00:57:13.460 And I got on that train when I looked into...

00:57:16.740 Epstein had a really close friend that was, like, in the movie business, because Epstein was sort of more, like, in the, like, politics and celebrity.

00:57:24.220 Like, he was sort of a big fish of everything.

00:57:26.380 Yeah.

00:57:26.540 But if you find this friend, I think her name was Patti.

00:57:30.540 She's a Oscar nominee, like, party host.

00:57:35.800 Like, she's, like, the woman that's famous for having the network of, like, 38,000 famous people from all around the world.

00:57:40.940 And she's the one that gets your movie nominated for the Oscar.

00:57:44.120 Right.

00:57:44.240 She's the one that organized Epstein's Hooray I'm Out of Prison party where Prince Andrew was invited to that Prince Andrew got in hot water for.

00:57:52.600 Yeah.

00:57:52.760 And then Stephanopoulos was at that same party and stuff.

00:57:55.440 She's that woman that's connected to everything.

00:57:57.980 Yep.

00:57:58.120 And the moment that the Epstein thing broke, she got blacklisted hard.

00:58:02.300 Like, went from being, like, the top dog, everyone wants to be at her parties, everyone wants her connection because she'll make your career, to you're totally cut off.

00:58:09.780 And she was whining about how it's, like, all the boys that were associated with them are still doing fine, but like me.

00:58:14.780 But really, it looked like them saying, you're cut off.

00:58:19.640 No one's allowed to look into you because if they look into you, like, she's the exact kind of person.

00:58:24.320 Right.

00:58:24.520 That would be leading you to all these other pawns.

00:58:29.100 Yep.

00:58:29.460 Right.

00:58:29.780 They all have these.

00:58:30.760 And we don't exactly have the pawn in Hollywood yet.

00:58:33.740 Right.

00:58:33.840 Because Epstein's not really, like, Hollywood.

00:58:36.180 Right.

00:58:36.780 But Hollywood is dark.

00:58:38.840 Well, no.

00:58:39.280 I mean, I kind of feel like that was Harvey Weinstein.

00:58:43.580 He seems like he might have been one of them.

00:58:45.280 But was he doing blackmail?

00:58:47.540 I feel like Harvey Weinstein was just being a shitty human and just exploiting his influence, which is different than blackmail, right?

00:58:53.660 I see the distinction.

00:58:54.280 Yeah.

00:58:54.420 Yeah.

00:58:54.640 Yeah.

00:58:54.820 We don't really know that yet.

00:58:56.600 Wasn't it, like, for Harvey, like, a bunch of the women were into the, like, not that they liked doing it, but that they knew what they were doing and intentionally decided?

00:59:04.280 I don't know.

00:59:04.940 I haven't looked into it much.

00:59:05.960 Allegedly, the alleged, the rumor was that women knew that if you go to meet Harvey, it was probably going to happen.

00:59:13.720 Then you were probably going to sleep with him, and you would get a movie park.

00:59:17.260 I mean, women are smart.

00:59:18.400 Women know how the world works.

00:59:20.240 Yeah.

00:59:20.420 They're not.

00:59:20.900 I'm not trying to condone it.

00:59:22.400 She was like, didn't Courtney Love say something like, if you get invited to a hotel with Harvey Weinstein, do not go?

00:59:27.780 Yeah.

00:59:28.080 I'm not sure if it was Courtney Love.

00:59:28.960 There was a lot of people that were making.

00:59:30.720 It was an open secret for a lot of years that Harvey Weinstein.

00:59:35.400 Meanwhile, they're thanking him and God on the stage at the Oscars every year.

00:59:39.520 Every year.

00:59:40.280 Thank you, Harvey Weinstein, for getting me in the movie.

00:59:42.900 Cut to his fat face, smiling in the crowd.

00:59:45.120 I mean, there's a lot of dark stuff now that people are more comfortable talking about,

00:59:49.860 where the casting couch is very real.

00:59:52.100 The emancipation of minors into the music industry so they can be around drugs all day and around that.

00:59:56.680 That Nickelodeon stuff that's been breaking.

00:59:58.140 It's wild.

00:59:58.840 We've been talking about Jesse for years.

01:00:00.620 Harvey Weinstein invites you to a private party in the fourth season.

01:00:04.340 Yeah.

01:00:06.180 Don't go.

01:00:07.140 Don't go.

01:00:08.060 Diddy's going to want to play with that virgin asshole.

01:00:10.060 You got to tell Diddy no.

01:00:14.920 Dude, Diddy stuff, back to that and the sex slave stuff, like, have you looked into the,

01:00:19.800 there was that guy who, this could be a crazy person.

01:00:22.760 I'm going to preface it with he might be.

01:00:23.840 You mean the guy in prison?

01:00:24.920 Is he in prison?

01:00:25.520 The guy who shot up Doral?

01:00:28.240 Yeah.

01:00:28.540 The Doral Hotels.

01:00:29.880 Yeah, the Trump Hotel.

01:00:30.920 I know it.

01:00:31.300 Yep.

01:00:31.400 He had the American flag.

01:00:32.400 Yep.

01:00:32.580 And they went and interrogated him and he was like, I'm Diddy's sex slave.

01:00:36.520 Yep.

01:00:36.960 And I mean, that's, so that was like in 2018.

01:00:40.260 Yeah.

01:00:40.400 That kind of ties into the Cassie lawsuit.

01:00:41.900 Right.

01:00:42.200 Exactly.

01:00:42.340 Into the freak offs.

01:00:43.780 Can you tie that, like, how do you do that?

01:00:45.580 Because Cassie said things that were connected to that, right?

01:00:47.920 Years later.

01:00:48.300 Yeah.

01:00:48.720 Cassie's lawsuit is so gross to read.

01:00:51.580 Cassie, it's like, I read it one and a half times and I don't even want to like think about

01:00:54.860 it anymore.

01:00:55.160 And that's his former girlfriend or wife?

01:00:56.440 That's his former girlfriend.

01:00:57.880 And he, at first she was an artist that he picked up when she was like 20 or something.

01:01:01.920 Right.

01:01:02.100 And he was like, and he was like courting her for the first year or so.

01:01:05.120 Right.

01:01:05.380 And then the moment he got her under his hooks and got her like to come to the party and

01:01:08.680 take a bunch of drugs and get drunk with her.

01:01:10.140 Yep.

01:01:10.660 Then it was suddenly like balls rolling and then he just like absorbed her into his life

01:01:15.400 and started to take over her world financially and then like more drugs, more, and then suddenly

01:01:19.960 she's his girlfriend and then they're having sex and then it turned into like, you're

01:01:24.320 my slave and I want, and actually what he was most into was watching other men fuck

01:01:28.600 her.

01:01:28.880 Right.

01:01:29.220 Um, and he had a type and, and he would like direct it like a porn director filmed and like

01:01:33.720 film it all and like tell them exactly what to do.

01:01:36.240 And like, like multiple men sometimes I think, and tons of drugs, but then it gets into explicit

01:01:41.840 detail about how he would beat the shit out of her in public places, like in the hallway

01:01:46.000 of the hotel, beat her so badly that he would then send her to a hotel, some middle of nowhere

01:01:50.840 and lock her in a hotel room for like a week or more so that she would recover out of public

01:01:55.620 eye because she was so like facially broken and shit like that.

01:01:58.800 That's like the level of beating that he would give to her.

01:02:01.140 And he would sometimes beat her like that while the sex was happening or like directly after

01:02:05.920 or before it was just like, and this is so right.

01:02:08.620 Did they settle?

01:02:09.540 Yeah.

01:02:09.720 And I can only assume that that's because of some level of threat or some level of fear

01:02:13.760 or for sure.

01:02:14.580 Like for sure.

01:02:15.020 Yeah.

01:02:15.380 Yeah.

01:02:15.580 She took a bunch of money and left and, and zipped her lips, but then other people

01:02:19.260 around her kept talking about it.

01:02:21.180 When that story broke, I was like, this probably will be the end of Diddy.

01:02:23.960 Yeah.

01:02:24.120 Just because there had been rumors for a while.

01:02:26.120 I've been listening to rap forever and listening to other rappers.

01:02:29.140 They talk.

01:02:29.700 I'm not a big 50 cent fan, but I love when he clowns on Diddy.

01:02:33.380 He's making a documentary.

01:02:34.920 Beautiful.

01:02:35.500 He's making a Diddy documentary.

01:02:36.860 Beautiful.

01:02:37.720 But he, but people in that world, like 50 or Kanye seem to know things, you know, you can't

01:02:43.420 help it if you're in that industry, you probably hear things, whether they're true or not, but

01:02:46.480 they seem to think that Diddy's been involved in those things.

01:02:49.200 And the videotaping stuff, it just sounds so much like the Epstein stuff that he was doing

01:02:54.380 around the world with people.

01:02:56.080 And then, so to connect what you were just saying with the Cassie stuff to that guy I

01:02:59.300 was talking about, he shot up the hotel that Trump is from, you know, he was saying a

01:03:03.300 lot of those things because I guess he was a prostitute.

01:03:04.860 Yeah.

01:03:05.180 He was one of the males that came and had sex with Cassie for Diddy.

01:03:09.280 Right.

01:03:09.420 Do you guys think that as a mechanism of control, they give mind altering drugs to these people,

01:03:15.020 which cause permanent brain damage?

01:03:16.440 Yes.

01:03:17.360 I think they can, if they need to.

01:03:20.080 Yeah.

01:03:20.200 It might not be.

01:03:20.640 They don't always need to.

01:03:21.840 Right.

01:03:21.880 But I just look back at like the, where do these things kind of start where they're

01:03:26.060 experimenting?

01:03:26.620 I think of like operation, uh, midnight climax into, into ultra.

01:03:30.840 We're going to put these men in a room with a prostitute.

01:03:33.040 She's going to leave the room.

01:03:33.700 We're going to pump LSD into it and observe them.

01:03:36.480 And in my opinion, just, uh, perfecting this drug to then, uh, give you a drug and control

01:03:43.380 you or destroy your brain.

01:03:44.380 I think the probability that the U S military or intelligence agencies have a one dose drug

01:03:50.480 that could permanently cause schizophrenia or some kind of brain malfunction.

01:03:55.720 I think it's 100%.

01:03:56.780 Absolutely.

01:03:57.640 You know, the Harley Pasternak interview that was before the Kanye stuff broke, where he

01:04:02.360 was speaking more freely about his old job.

01:04:04.300 Harley Pasternak is Kanye's, you know, his personal trainer for fitness that then is

01:04:07.960 like threatening to put away on drugs.

01:04:10.020 You'll never see his kids before there's an interview on the internet.

01:04:12.520 You can find where Harley, Harley Pasternak is talking to a reporter about his old job

01:04:15.800 with the Canadian military government, special ops.

01:04:17.960 And he's like, so you were experimenting with drugs or something?

01:04:20.080 Like, what, what was that all about?

01:04:21.260 And he's, and I forget the exact clip, but it's basically like, oh, with drugs you've

01:04:24.600 never heard of, like with special drugs.

01:04:26.500 I think it was Canada that had a whole like a apartment building or a hospital of people

01:04:31.460 in comas, drug induced comas where they're experimenting on them.

01:04:34.480 I forget the name of that experiment.

01:04:35.560 What?

01:04:35.780 I don't put it past anyone.

01:04:37.180 I believe it was Canada, but this is, I believe that was in the sixties or seventies.

01:04:41.200 That's wild.

01:04:42.060 Yeah.

01:04:42.220 There's a documentary I saw on YouTube about it.

01:04:44.100 So it's all old footage.

01:04:45.900 Has anybody heard of Duranganga?

01:04:47.920 No.

01:04:48.200 It's the Colombian, like date rape drug that they'll use to make you like, Vice did a big

01:04:53.960 documentary on it like 10, 20 years ago.

01:04:55.700 It's called the devil's breath.

01:04:57.240 Yeah.

01:04:57.720 Scopolamine.

01:04:58.260 Oh, it's going to blow it in someone's face.

01:05:00.060 And they, it's like, it makes you like drunk as fuck, but still like awake.

01:05:04.020 They say it's like an instant roofie.

01:05:05.700 Exactly.

01:05:06.100 But open to suggestion.

01:05:07.560 So you'll, you'll, you'll do whatever you're told and you won't remember it.

01:05:10.620 Yep.

01:05:10.920 Yeah.

01:05:11.220 So check this out from the Guardian.

01:05:12.560 Toxic legacy of Canada's CIA brainwashing experiments.

01:05:15.260 They'll strip you of your soul.

01:05:16.780 That's right.

01:05:17.180 Dude, there's, there's footage of this place.

01:05:18.740 I'm going to read that later.

01:05:19.040 There's footage of this place.

01:05:20.240 Everyone look it up.

01:05:21.040 It's wild.

01:05:21.880 Yeah.

01:05:22.080 Yeah.

01:05:22.580 Whoa.

01:05:24.140 This is so dark.

01:05:25.180 When was this?

01:05:25.740 It was inspiration for, uh, the inspiration for the Wolverine.

01:05:30.060 Yo.

01:05:30.820 Is it really?

01:05:31.580 No, I'm just making sure.

01:05:33.220 But seriously.

01:05:34.260 You know, it's in Canada.

01:05:35.420 People don't know that Wolverine is Canadian.

01:05:37.940 Yep.

01:05:38.380 That's right.

01:05:38.740 Wolverine is Canadian too.

01:05:39.680 Yep.

01:05:39.980 And Omega Red was, uh, the Russian version.

01:05:42.600 Yeah.

01:05:42.860 Yeah.

01:05:43.040 Yeah.

01:05:43.860 Weapon X.

01:05:45.040 Yes.

01:05:45.640 The 10th version of the experiments to, uh, create a super weapon.

01:05:49.020 Yeah.

01:05:49.140 I think they had people in comas for a long period of time.

01:05:52.020 Uh, it's so insane, but yeah, I think they've done this widespread stuff secretly for a while

01:05:59.480 and they just expanded it to all the mind control of today.

01:06:03.240 I mean, the official line is like, they shut down MK ultra.

01:06:07.100 Yeah.

01:06:07.380 Fucking kidding me.

01:06:08.060 Like, no, they didn't.

01:06:08.820 It expanded and rebranded.

01:06:10.300 Like in the MK ultra documents from the church and pipe committees, the, they have a section

01:06:15.380 on just as one example on the scopolamine drug I was just talking about, which is like, obviously

01:06:19.720 useful.

01:06:20.180 Like you'd be an idiot if you're the CIA and you don't experiment with that drug.

01:06:24.100 And their section about that drug is no use found discontinued tests.

01:06:27.980 Right.

01:06:28.500 Right.

01:06:28.980 And I made a Tik TOK video about that.

01:06:30.600 Just speculating pure speculation about how, like if you take Epstein as a concept and you

01:06:35.380 take that drug as a concept and you say, wouldn't that be useful for the people that like,

01:06:40.380 don't want to do the stuff.

01:06:41.760 Exactly.

01:06:42.220 There was this a funny show that I saw where I can't remember.

01:06:44.860 I can't remember what it was, but someone listening might remember.

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01:08:15.500 They tell some guys invited to like a dinner or something and a bunch of people have been

01:08:21.580 invited to this dinner.

01:08:22.320 I can't remember why, but everyone's part of the production except him and he doesn't

01:08:26.840 know this.

01:08:27.160 And what happens is they say, you know, for today's dinner, we have two entree options.

01:08:32.320 We have fish and we have chicken.

01:08:33.640 You know, which one would you like?

01:08:34.820 And he says, uh, I'll have the chicken.

01:08:36.920 Like, okay.

01:08:37.340 And so what happens is they bring him his chicken dish.

01:08:41.420 Everyone gets their plates and then he takes a bite.

01:08:44.280 And as soon as he does, a server walks by and bumps into him and drop something and then

01:08:49.080 asks him to pick it up.

01:08:50.100 When he bends down to pick it up, the people around him grab his plate and replace it with

01:08:54.320 fish with the same bite mark and then go back to normal.

01:08:58.180 And then he turns around and looks at his food and he, he didn't, didn't I order the chicken?

01:09:02.680 And they go, no, you ordered the fish.

01:09:04.800 Like I did like, yeah, you took a bite.

01:09:07.660 And he's like, oh, then they changed.

01:09:09.720 He had white to red wine.

01:09:11.080 They kept moving things and everyone's in on it.

01:09:14.020 They made him think he was insane.

01:09:15.800 So the, the, the point I bring this up is you can like this MK ultra stuff doesn't need

01:09:20.400 to be like grabbing someone, injecting them and screaming in their face.

01:09:23.440 You can shatter someone's mind by making them doubt reality because they're not going to

01:09:27.940 believe that everyone's, is this the Truman show?

01:09:30.800 You just described the corporate press.

01:09:32.440 And right.

01:09:33.100 Bingo.

01:09:33.420 Now, yeah, exactly.

01:09:35.320 Imagine you're in a room with a bunch of people and they're like, we don't know each other.

01:09:38.540 We, we all got invited to him as you.

01:09:40.000 No one stole your wine.

01:09:41.340 No one switched your food.

01:09:42.180 You're going crazy, dude.

01:09:43.240 And you're going to be like, I'm going crazy.

01:09:46.260 What's happening to my brain.

01:09:47.440 It's why we see people snapping, like Phil talking about Anna Kasparian and seeing a

01:09:51.200 video for the first time.

01:09:51.900 Cause it's, it's challenged her concept of reality because we're, we're all in the silos

01:09:56.900 of reality, whatever media diet you're on.

01:09:59.280 And when you see something that challenges that, like another good example is good people on both

01:10:03.120 sides.

01:10:03.580 When people started to, I can tell people all the time, like he didn't say that or blood

01:10:08.640 blast, dude, you name it.

01:10:10.840 And they, they can still sometimes watch that video in full and I agree, but it takes a while.

01:10:15.840 Here's the question.

01:10:16.480 If you were in charge of a chicken coop of humans, which humans would you prefer to breed

01:10:24.480 and make more?

01:10:25.320 The inquisitive ones that challenge and try and figure out what's going on or the dumb

01:10:29.680 ones who march in lockstep and do whatever they're told?

01:10:32.120 The ones that are fat and juicy, but no, I get what you're saying.

01:10:35.920 But, but, but, but no, that's, that's a good point for a, for a human versus a chicken.

01:10:39.480 What is fat and juicy?

01:10:40.500 A fat and juicy chicken is a boiler, a broiler chicken.

01:10:42.640 You want to eat one that consumes a lot without asking questions, but, but that's called

01:10:46.560 productivity money, money, money, money, money.

01:10:48.760 So that means you want humans who are hard workers and don't resist, don't revolt, follow

01:10:52.400 the law.

01:10:52.820 That's conservatives.

01:10:54.320 The liberals are violent.

01:10:56.440 They're filthy.

01:10:57.360 They're overweight.

01:10:58.560 Those are the bad chickens.

01:10:59.880 They want to continually progress ideas and change policies.

01:11:03.220 So think about it this way.

01:11:03.820 You, you are an alien or the CIA, whatever, whatever Supreme entity who controls everything,

01:11:09.860 be it a cabal, an Illuminati or the president, whatever.

01:11:12.960 And you're like, we have this chicken coop.

01:11:15.340 Half of them are fat, lazy, entitled.

01:11:17.520 Don't produce anything.

01:11:19.260 They're disgusting.

01:11:20.280 They produce massive amounts of waste and they're stinking up the place.

01:11:23.340 The other side want, they live slightly more sustainably.

01:11:27.360 They have septic systems.

01:11:28.960 They make some of their own food easier to manage.

01:11:31.320 And they never protest.

01:11:32.900 Which group do you want to breed?

01:11:34.680 Well, then take a look at who they told to get abortions, right?

01:11:37.680 They conservatives are like, we will not get abortions.

01:11:39.780 And they're like, okay, I guess.

01:11:41.000 And the liberals are like, we must, who are they advocating for to end their breeding?

01:11:45.380 I got to say, if, if I was in charge of a chicken coop and I had a bunch of chickens

01:11:50.480 who did not lay eggs, if they did lay an egg, they destroyed it.

01:11:53.720 They were smelly, disgusting, and kept pooping in the most inconvenient places.

01:11:58.480 I'd be like, those, those are gone.

01:12:00.500 Get rid of them.

01:12:01.020 We want the ones that poop in the corner, that lay the eggs, and don't resist.

01:12:05.860 Unless they want to bring society to the point of collapse where you're childless, alone,

01:12:12.160 isolated, drugged up, plugged in, and they can control you because they're feeding off

01:12:16.840 of you.

01:12:17.180 Yeah.

01:12:17.580 Yeah.

01:12:17.800 But consumptive.

01:12:18.740 What is the purpose of a human life to the person running the machine?

01:12:24.080 And it is labor, the ability for you to do something for them.

01:12:27.300 If I want to live in a rotating space station and be immortal, I need a bunch of people who

01:12:32.940 are happy to work, don't resist, and produce the components required for me to live like

01:12:37.780 a demigod.

01:12:38.240 But it's almost changing because labor's not so important anymore with AI and technology

01:12:43.280 in a weird way, right?

01:12:44.200 Like, which is like, I agree with what you're saying, but it's almost like they're having

01:12:47.580 to go through a paradigm shift.

01:12:48.760 Whoever's controlling that system.

01:12:50.720 Yes.

01:12:51.140 Because like, what is the new labor?

01:12:53.200 You need someone to mine the cobalt.

01:12:55.080 You need someone to run maintenance and entitled, fat, lazy people who don't want to work are

01:13:02.560 not going to help you be your immortal demigod.

01:13:05.360 I agree with you.

01:13:06.360 But with the cobalt mining, what if they replace them with robots?

01:13:09.800 And then what if the machine?

01:13:11.000 Oh, I mean, they don't need to replace African kids, though.

01:13:13.480 They'll just keep using African kids.

01:13:14.680 That's true.

01:13:15.200 And they don't care how many.

01:13:16.460 Lots of African kids.

01:13:17.760 Exactly.

01:13:18.300 We're talking about heartless, soulless psychopaths who believe like Yuval Harari,

01:13:25.540 who stuff he said, right?

01:13:28.460 You know, what did he have?

01:13:29.860 Like a recent quote where he was saying, like, I can't remember what it was.

01:13:32.780 It was something about the elites will just protect themselves.

01:13:36.020 The poor can die or something like that.

01:13:37.720 He does not think there is a conscious entity, a soul or anything like that.

01:13:41.760 He just wants to mechanize humanity.

01:13:43.880 It's real simple, man.

01:13:45.600 I don't think it's a secret.

01:13:47.420 I don't think it's complicated to see that the machine is begging liberals to excise themselves

01:13:54.320 in the gene pool.

01:13:55.080 Hmm.

01:13:56.980 I've never considered that point where you're kind of saying that it's like not actually

01:14:00.600 a tactic designed to attack the everyone, but actually a tactic that's aimed at liberals.

01:14:05.340 I've never thought of it that way before.

01:14:06.700 It's Alex Jones described it as they lay bait bear traps, announce where they are.

01:14:11.380 And if you're too stupid to avoid it, it's your own fault.

01:14:13.500 They're creating this artificial selection.

01:14:15.760 I'll tell you this.

01:14:16.860 You've got two 18 year olds.

01:14:18.480 One's a liberal progressive.

01:14:19.960 One's a conservative.

01:14:20.660 And you say, I need cobalt now.

01:14:23.840 Start digging.

01:14:25.240 Which one is more likely to do it?

01:14:26.760 You're right.

01:14:27.040 The conservatives guy is going to be like, well, if I can make an honest living, I'll

01:14:30.000 get you your cobalt.

01:14:30.920 And the liberal guy is going to be like, that's wrong.

01:14:33.320 Exploiting the earth.

01:14:34.060 I'm going to go complain about Israel.

01:14:35.560 And they're going to be like, that one's a problem.

01:14:37.480 That's a good point.

01:14:38.080 You should get an abortion.

01:14:39.040 And then they go, okay.

01:14:40.480 Yeah.

01:14:40.700 It's like an overgeneralization of the groupings.

01:14:42.780 Think about this.

01:14:45.220 If all of my chickens, if I let them out in the lawn and they're walking around, running

01:14:51.160 around and they're pooping, guess what happens?

01:14:53.580 The grass grows greener and more lush.

01:14:56.780 And then it's good for the crops.

01:14:58.960 When we had the garden, you intentionally release the chickens into the garden.

01:15:02.660 They eat the grubs and they poop everywhere and it makes your plants grow better.

01:15:06.360 Now, what would happen if you took all of the chicken, chicken shit, balled it up and

01:15:11.840 put it in one spot?

01:15:12.800 It would destroy that.

01:15:13.540 It would destroy that spot.

01:15:14.840 And it would take what weeks to a month of rain to wash it all the way.

01:15:19.280 Now look at big cities, hyper concentrations of human waste and filth and lazy entitled people

01:15:24.680 who don't want to work.

01:15:25.900 And then you take a look at conservative areas.

01:15:27.620 And what do you have?

01:15:28.240 Septic systems.

01:15:29.320 They regulate themselves to a great degree.

01:15:31.540 More likely to have their own backyard food, more self-sustaining, more likely to grow

01:15:36.020 their own food, more likely to want to work hard and believe in hard work.

01:15:39.440 If I was a tyrannical global elitist who wanted to have a functioning chicken coop, liberals are

01:15:46.700 the problem.

01:15:47.480 Surprise, surprise.

01:15:48.520 They are demanding that liberals or liberals are screaming, please abortions.

01:15:53.420 Please, please, please.

01:15:54.780 That's like you teach the chickens to destroy their own eggs.

01:15:58.080 Yeah, you should get rid of your eggs.

01:15:59.620 They've gone beyond just abortion.

01:16:01.200 Now it's jumping the suicide pod.

01:16:03.340 Oh, now they have made?

01:16:04.280 And who is the most likely to be victimized by it?

01:16:07.700 Conservatives are the least likely to engage in medical assistance and death.

01:16:10.800 They're the least likely to sterilize their kid and the least likely to get an abortion.

01:16:14.240 Well, there's a whole other side of this too.

01:16:15.600 Actually, I just realized that's like the, if there's a good quality in liberalism, I think

01:16:20.540 the most obvious one is regulation of corporations and of like big money, out of control pools

01:16:26.620 of money.

01:16:27.160 Like the very things, like balance is so critical in all parts of life, especially in politics.

01:16:32.620 Like both sides need each other to a certain degree, the rational versions of each other,

01:16:36.240 not the current versions of each other.

01:16:37.500 And what the liberal concept brings is like unregulated, like we were talking about earlier,

01:16:43.180 anarchy leads to the strongest just killing the weakest in metaphorical and real terms.

01:16:48.400 And liberalism brings that regulation that would put the regulation on black rock, that

01:16:52.800 would tell big oil not to fucking do that.

01:16:54.720 And that is toxic as hell to all the people that Tim is talking about.

01:16:58.860 It's funny how that idea of reigning in corporations was the progressive conservative

01:17:02.940 idea at the turn of the century with like Teddy Roosevelt.

01:17:05.660 You know, like they would consider him a progressive, although he was conservative Republican to

01:17:10.780 a degree.

01:17:11.420 And now who knows what's like the liberals are shilling for fucking big pharma now.

01:17:14.620 Yeah, but both, whether it be, whether it be the left or the right, both like big things

01:17:20.200 or are except like, yeah, except large things, whether it be large government or large corporations

01:17:24.940 and the largeness of things is what tends to be the problem because you get externalities

01:17:32.780 and you get the inability for large things to slow down or stop or fix problems.

01:17:37.980 And it makes the just largesse of, whether it be corporation or government, that kind

01:17:45.880 of largesse makes change really, really difficult, you know, so.

01:17:49.520 And they can regulate themselves into a self-repetuating cycle.

01:17:52.520 Yeah.

01:17:52.760 They can lobby.

01:17:53.760 Yeah.

01:17:53.960 You know.

01:17:54.480 Yeah.

01:17:54.720 I mean, speaking of something that could gain too much power, my favorite speech is the

01:17:59.280 Eisenhower speech about the military industrial complex.

01:18:01.580 See, someone who helped bring that about and said, this has gone too far.

01:18:05.700 And he was keenly aware of the CIA at that time.

01:18:07.900 Like, oh yeah.

01:18:08.400 Like he was, he was the one that witnessed the birth and the, the beginnings of the CIA

01:18:14.920 becoming the military industrial complex's covert arm.

01:18:17.580 This man left, that was his last speech in the white house before JFK went in and then

01:18:23.000 look what the military, military industrial complex did in my opinion, which is again, no

01:18:28.920 difference between the mafia and the industrial complex and all that stuff.

01:18:31.860 Former Congressman Ron Paul said the CIA killed JFK.

01:18:34.940 Yeah.

01:18:35.520 I, I would agree that.

01:18:37.200 Sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory.

01:18:38.440 I think, yeah, I think that is a very likely.

01:18:41.120 It's interesting that we haven't seen those papers yet.

01:18:42.740 They were supposed to be released.

01:18:44.000 I believe Trump said, if you saw them, you wouldn't, you wouldn't know like how the American,

01:18:48.900 how American public could handle it.

01:18:50.280 I forget his exact quote.

01:18:51.660 Here's a conspiracy theory for you.

01:18:53.580 So for the longest time you have this waning patriotism in the United States, conservatives

01:18:58.640 of course, March in lockstep, they're following the conservative narrative and the conservative

01:19:02.980 message of the Republican party and all that stuff, but younger people and liberals are

01:19:06.960 going crazy.

01:19:08.420 So the conspiracy would be bring about a Trump, introduce ideas to the left because the left

01:19:15.280 was very anti-US.

01:19:16.780 The left was protesting war and all that stuff.

01:19:19.100 So then the conspiracy theory would be the intelligence agencies say, we need to taint the

01:19:23.240 left that nobody wants to be a part of it.

01:19:24.700 No reasonable person introduce a bunch of ideas.

01:19:27.400 That's why I see around 2008, this massive spike in LexisNexis showing wokeness, racism,

01:19:33.520 white privilege and all this stuff, pissing off the majority population, which is white

01:19:36.880 people, pissing off men and making the left taste like crap, pushing people who are moderates,

01:19:45.360 rational towards Trump to reignite this America first, make a strong America mentality.

01:19:51.640 What if the real conspiracy was that they were trying to get rid of leftist influence?

01:19:56.700 So they had to taint the left, make the left the enemy, make nasty Hillary Clinton, all

01:20:02.000 the stupid people march in lockstep with it.

01:20:04.080 Then they get abortions and then Trump wins and Trump is supposed to win.

01:20:07.260 This was right after Occupy Wall Street.

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01:21:34.440 Right after that sort of leftist, like rein in the corporations mentality came directly

01:21:42.380 for the 1% of that money.

01:21:43.820 And now it wasn't just the leftist though.

01:21:45.760 There was, there was, it was everybody.

01:21:47.140 You're absolutely right.

01:21:47.960 But right.

01:21:48.960 Everybody was down there.

01:21:49.900 And now you have a whole bunch of people who used to be liberal, who used to be Democrats

01:21:54.480 now being like, we have to vote for Trump.

01:21:55.740 And Trump is MAGA, America first, the American flag.

01:21:58.640 Woohoo.

01:21:59.900 Maybe that was the game plan all along.

01:22:01.820 And then what?

01:22:02.560 Trump wins.

01:22:03.480 And then everyone celebrates and cheers.

01:22:05.260 They crush the left, which is anti-Israel right now.

01:22:08.040 And maybe that was always the point.

01:22:09.620 And then you get Donald Trump was coming in saying he will be the most pro-Israel president

01:22:13.460 ever.

01:22:14.380 I do get really curious about the, the Trump conspiracy theories of like, maybe he's more

01:22:19.140 than meets the eye.

01:22:20.100 And there's versions of it that are like, he's a fucking genius that actually has all

01:22:24.740 and like with some points.

01:22:26.640 I don't believe those.

01:22:27.300 And then there's the other version and it's like, right?

01:22:30.400 Full disclosure, I totally don't believe the genius ones.

01:22:33.920 Think about this.

01:22:34.900 The deep state says we have a problem.

01:22:37.540 We've got all of these college students.

01:22:39.080 They've become anti, they oppose us.

01:22:41.300 They're pro-war.

01:22:42.160 They didn't like what happened in Vietnam.

01:22:43.440 And they say, what do we do?

01:22:45.460 Well, people don't like Mitt Romney.

01:22:46.600 People don't like these stochy conservative types.

01:22:48.440 How do we get people to say rah, rah, hurrah America, a Democrat reality TV celebrity who

01:22:55.520 is funny and brash, who regular people will say, yeah, I get it.

01:23:00.280 But then we taint the left with wokeness so that people are, look, the left seems unsustainable

01:23:08.020 in that all they do is insult people based on race and gender and things like this.

01:23:12.260 Eventually you will get more and more people being like, I don't want to be a part of a

01:23:15.780 group that's insulting me based on who I am and I can't control.

01:23:19.220 Then the other side is Trump and, you know, it's great.

01:23:22.140 We're going to make America great.

01:23:22.940 We're going to do all these good things for the country.

01:23:24.240 Very Bernie-esque populist policies that moderate former liberals, 9 million Obama voters voted

01:23:29.960 for Trump.

01:23:31.120 And then they make it seem like he's the underdog.

01:23:33.960 Obama was the underdog.

01:23:35.000 I remember when Obama was running, everyone was saying, all my friends in Chicago, they're

01:23:39.760 like, Tim, you don't understand.

01:23:40.840 Like we're, we're, we're about to win like a black community organizer from Chicago who

01:23:46.560 came out of nowhere, gained too much popularity and pushed and shut down Hillary Clinton.

01:23:52.180 Hillary Clinton is, is, is the heir who's supposed to take over and Barack Obama upset her and

01:23:57.600 we're going to get, we're finally going to upend the machine.

01:23:59.560 And I'm like, wow.

01:24:00.420 So anti-war for the people, populist.

01:24:03.760 And it was a big lie is a big lie.

01:24:07.080 If anyone doesn't know that it's a big lie, just look up Obama, Citibank, cabinet.

01:24:12.060 Yeah.

01:24:12.460 And then, and then maybe three bombs every hour, every day for a year.

01:24:16.040 Oh yeah.

01:24:16.720 The, one of the first things he did was he signed off on a drone strike that killed

01:24:19.780 a village of women and killed 23 women and children.

01:24:23.100 But then the deep state says, okay, after Obama, what do we do?

01:24:27.160 People are going to want to go the other direction.

01:24:28.640 There's going to be, you know, anti-democrat sentiment.

01:24:31.180 We want to crush the anti-war sentiment and all these things.

01:24:34.600 So they, maybe, maybe it's Trump.

01:24:36.780 Maybe it's one big conspiracy theory.

01:24:38.360 I think that I, you, you paint, you paint a good argument for it.

01:24:42.400 I think that my reservation about that version of it is that it gives a lot of credibility

01:24:48.300 to their competence.

01:24:49.240 Competence and they have a lot, like the, if you just look at the CIA and sort of associated

01:24:53.300 parties, they have a long history of deep incompetence that has totally bungled operations

01:24:58.360 in ways that are like juvenile.

01:25:00.200 I'm not saying it's true.

01:25:00.760 I'm just saying entertain.

01:25:02.060 And it's a, so what they do is, so I've talked about this with Bitcoin.

01:25:06.160 I remember back in the end of the 2000s, you had Alex Jones being like, they're trying

01:25:10.480 to create a one world currency.

01:25:11.940 Next step is the Amero.

01:25:13.420 And there are pictures of like this United North American currency and stuff.

01:25:17.220 And then Bitcoin popped up and I'm like, well, they got their, they got their international

01:25:22.540 single monetary, uh, transactional tool.

01:25:25.560 And how did they do it?

01:25:26.860 They targeted the anti-governmental conspiracy theorists, libertarians, and anarchists first.

01:25:31.000 They went to the people who are like, they're trying to make a one world currency to control

01:25:35.460 everybody.

01:25:35.820 And they went, Hey, this one world unified global currency is outside of their control.

01:25:40.140 You should buy it.

01:25:40.880 And they went, yes.

01:25:42.020 And they all did.

01:25:42.620 So if you were trying to implement a plan, you want to, you want to make sure you can

01:25:47.360 break the barrier of those who are resistant first, right?

01:25:50.440 That's what they did.

01:25:51.120 So now take a look at Trump, make him look like the martyr and the victim.

01:25:55.580 The Democrats target him.

01:25:57.280 Why not really?

01:25:58.580 Because they want to stop him, but because they want to play the bad guy there.

01:26:02.140 So we say the Republicans are the Washington generals to the, to the Democrats, Harlem Globetrotters.

01:26:06.600 What if it's the other way around?

01:26:07.700 What if Democrats are pretending to be the villains to get everyone to move closer and

01:26:12.080 closer towards pro America, pro, you know, pro our borders, pro our country, actually

01:26:17.780 strengthening this nation, its economy and the deep state in turn.

01:26:21.980 The way you describe, uh, them subverting the counterculture types also made me think

01:26:28.220 of how I see a lot of people who claim to be anti authority, uh, who are against centralization

01:26:34.240 of power, but it seemed to be really cool with Elon building a one app place, you know,

01:26:39.280 like put everything, he wants everything in one place because he's the philosopher King,

01:26:42.780 but don't trust that either.

01:26:44.040 Right.

01:26:44.780 But that's the idea.

01:26:45.720 It's right.

01:26:46.360 So Elon, this is the other thing too.

01:26:48.040 And, and, and look, I'm going to stress this.

01:26:49.460 I'm voting for Trump.

01:26:50.560 I like Trump.

01:26:51.260 I don't think there's a conspiracy.

01:26:52.620 I think they desperately hate him.

01:26:53.760 I think he's more anti-intervention.

01:26:55.920 You're just playing devil's advocate.

01:26:56.840 I'm saying you always want to entertain what, what this people may be.

01:27:00.060 Um, Elon Musk comes in, saves the day, rescues the lost voices.

01:27:06.060 This is called a pressure release valve.

01:27:08.200 You allow a little bit back onto the scene before the pressure bursts and it causes something

01:27:13.480 more chaotic.

01:27:14.320 So I I've said, people are like, why is Tim cast IRL still out on YouTube?

01:27:18.040 I'm like pressure release.

01:27:19.140 There's a reason why they silo us to a certain degree and that, uh, we don't gain as much

01:27:24.620 subscribers despite the massive audience.

01:27:26.840 So, uh, let me give you a breakdown real quick.

01:27:29.180 Um, the, the, the general idea is pressure release.

01:27:32.080 A show like Tim cast IRL is anti-establishment enough, but not super off the rails.

01:27:36.920 So the people who are frustrated with the system feel like they still have a voice.

01:27:40.680 They can watch a show that speaks to them and they don't feel like the end is nigh.

01:27:43.820 They ban a show like that and people feel lost and then people start acting out crazy.

01:27:48.100 So it's just enough that the steam is going coming out and it doesn't blow up.

01:27:51.960 I ran an advertisement for the first time ever for Tim cast IRL, very IRL simply saying,

01:27:57.780 if you want to watch the best show, come watch Tim cast IRL Monday, Friday, 8 PM.

01:28:01.340 First thing they do, they blocked it as an election ad.

01:28:04.060 I appealed this.

01:28:04.940 They said, no, I appealed it again.

01:28:06.700 They said, no, I escalated to chat.

01:28:08.700 And the chat person said at Google ads, you're right.

01:28:11.880 Nothing in this has anything to do with elections.

01:28:13.280 We'll get back to you next week.

01:28:15.140 Next week they get back and they say, you know what?

01:28:16.720 You are right.

01:28:17.340 This has nothing to do with elections.

01:28:18.540 So we're going to allow the ad.

01:28:20.420 Two days later, they deleted the two episodes that were featured in the commercial,

01:28:24.480 the Joe Rogan, Alex Jones, and the, uh, and the Michael Malz, Alex Jones.

01:28:29.520 The two biggest episodes got deleted right after.

01:28:32.440 I think the issue for them was they like the show as a pressure release valve for a lot of

01:28:36.780 people who are fresher with the system.

01:28:38.500 And when I bought that ad, I shattered the bubble.

01:28:41.780 They were trying to keep us in.

01:28:43.020 Now there's a commercial for the show, two of them running that are intentionally designed

01:28:47.600 to go outside of this sphere of political influence and specifically target people who

01:28:52.220 normally don't watch that that's going above and beyond what they would allow for a show

01:28:55.780 like this.

01:28:56.340 And now they're deleting episodes.

01:28:58.480 I think they don't like that.

01:29:00.040 We're trying to break that, that mold.

01:29:01.400 I think that this is what they're trying to do.

01:29:02.900 So back to Elon Musk, everyone's getting more and more frustrated.

01:29:06.640 They're getting angrier and angrier.

01:29:08.000 Tensions are rising and they go, okay, Elon comes in, bring some of the voices back,

01:29:13.340 bring the pressure down.

01:29:14.620 People, yeah, we're winning.

01:29:15.780 We're winning.

01:29:16.560 And then Elon says-

01:29:17.480 But he did it a little too much and the advertisers got pissed.

01:29:20.800 It's like, dial it back, Elon.

01:29:22.520 Didn't he go to Israel?

01:29:23.900 Yeah, he made it all right, you know, and then they're coming back slowly.

01:29:26.160 So I'm saying in the conspiracy theory, it's that it's all part of the plan.

01:29:29.500 Yep.

01:29:29.620 Like Elon is acting like the philosopher king.

01:29:32.680 I'm the good guy who's going to save you.

01:29:34.240 Look, I agree with you on all these opinions.

01:29:35.800 You now have a voice once again.

01:29:37.380 We're going to bring your voices back and then create the one app for everything where

01:29:41.600 everything you say will be part of our AI integration.

01:29:44.160 You will do all your transactions through us, et cetera, et cetera.

01:29:46.940 And you can still get banned and misgendering policy still exists.

01:29:49.280 And he pushes the freedom of speech is not freedom of reach, which is total bullshit.

01:29:54.260 Like that's complete bullshit.

01:29:55.560 Like if you're algorithmically treating Tim cast different than Joe Rogan podcast, right?

01:30:00.040 That's censorship.

01:30:00.680 There's so many landmines on Twitter that I still don't, no one really knows.

01:30:04.580 You know, it's like you interact with someone who's supposedly a bad account behind the scenes.

01:30:08.660 Let me stress this too.

01:30:09.360 Thinker for a life said, no, they like your super chats.

01:30:11.240 You're funding them.

01:30:12.160 We don't make that much in super chats.

01:30:13.460 That's a ridiculous notion.

01:30:14.740 The idea that a trillion dollar company is like, we need a couple hundred dollars per

01:30:19.460 week in super chats.

01:30:21.700 Yeah.

01:30:22.220 They get a lot of CIA funding.

01:30:23.780 They don't need no super chats.

01:30:25.360 It's YouTube is subsidized.

01:30:26.920 If anything, they're paying us more than the reason why Rumble has a harder time with ads

01:30:30.780 is because they're not subsidized.

01:30:32.220 They have to get real customers.

01:30:33.380 YouTube, they don't play that game.

01:30:34.920 Nope.

01:30:35.540 Nope.

01:30:36.760 They've been.

01:30:37.260 So anyway, anyway, long story short, I'm not saying that's true.

01:30:40.300 I'm a big fan of Elon.

01:30:41.280 I think the work he's doing with SpaceX and Starship, some of the most important things

01:30:46.120 humans have ever done.

01:30:47.020 So I'm a big fan.

01:30:48.240 I'm just playing devil's advocate, always entertain.

01:30:50.600 Well, you bring up a really important point in today's times is that it's so critical that

01:30:55.400 everyone entertains the ideas that aren't necessarily their own, but they actually think

01:31:00.520 it through from the other people's perspective, not from their own perspective, because you don't

01:31:05.300 know what's real and you don't know what's true and you're not that smart.

01:31:08.140 None of you are.

01:31:08.760 None of us are like.

01:31:09.660 And so if you're not entertaining some of these conspiracy theories just to keep your

01:31:13.120 eyes on them, you're going to be totally blindsided by the ones that were true.

01:31:16.880 Also, like idolize no man.

01:31:18.720 Exactly.

01:31:18.860 Even if you identify with things they say and you agree with 90 percent, idolize no one.

01:31:24.780 Just think for yourself and listen to everybody.

01:31:26.920 What if Joe Biden, you know, remember when Barack Obama said, Joe, you don't have to do

01:31:31.700 this?

01:31:32.340 Yeah.

01:31:32.620 Maybe what the real conversation was, as you all laugh like fools, was that Joe Biden

01:31:39.340 goes to Barack Obama and says, you know, man, we need a patriotic resurgence in this

01:31:43.260 country.

01:31:44.240 Come on.

01:31:44.880 We need people to believe in America again.

01:31:46.740 It's secure.

01:31:47.120 It's secure.

01:31:47.480 It's borders.

01:31:48.080 And come on, man.

01:31:49.560 Come on.

01:31:50.120 And then Obama's like, well, Joe, I don't know what we do.

01:31:53.100 And then Joe says, what if I play the villain?

01:31:55.920 What if I act stupid, weak, corrupt?

01:31:58.920 We can accuse me of crimes.

01:32:00.180 I can be that man.

01:32:00.940 I can be the hero we need so that they will vote for Donald Trump.

01:32:04.640 And then Barack's like, Joe, you don't have to do this.

01:32:07.060 They'll destroy your legacy.

01:32:08.200 They'll hate you.

01:32:08.840 They will hate you.

01:32:09.400 And he's like, well, they can't hate me because that's what I can be for them.

01:32:13.080 It would make an epic comic book.

01:32:14.200 This entire conversation happened between Obama and a Ouija board.

01:32:17.940 That's how we talk to Biden.

01:32:19.820 For real.

01:32:20.340 To raise him from the dead.

01:32:22.240 Yeah.

01:32:22.820 He came out like a smoke ghost and got into the White House.

01:32:26.200 In 2016, Hillary Clinton was like, I'm going to intentionally be insufferable so that people

01:32:30.340 will vote for Trump.

01:32:31.160 I think she had that conversation with herself in like 2002.

01:32:34.780 She's been doing that for a while before that.

01:32:37.000 And it stopped at, I'm going to be intentionally insufferable.

01:32:39.640 And that was it.

01:32:40.300 That was the end of the sentence.

01:32:41.240 Bill's like, we know.

01:32:42.500 We know.

01:32:43.140 Yeah.

01:32:45.080 I'll just say that when Melinda Gates found out about that Bill's connections, she got

01:32:52.240 the fuck out of there.

01:32:53.280 That's right.

01:32:53.660 When Hillary found out about that Bill's connections.

01:32:57.420 Yeah.

01:32:57.820 Like the Melinda Bill stuff found feels like some movie.

01:33:02.320 Actually, it's kind of like Fallout.

01:33:03.660 Did you guys watch the new Fallout show?

01:33:05.060 No.

01:33:05.160 No.

01:33:05.460 I shouldn't spoil it then.

01:33:06.620 That's all right.

01:33:07.060 I kind of may have already by mentioning Bill and Melinda Gates.

01:33:11.740 Interesting.

01:33:12.520 But the idea is like, they're a married couple and she's at like a meeting and some woman

01:33:18.500 in a suit comes in and she's like, you need to know more about your husband.

01:33:22.580 And she's like, what do you mean?

01:33:23.740 He runs a computer software company.

01:33:25.240 He goes, you need to learn about what he's really doing.

01:33:28.000 And she's like, no, I've known Bill forever.

01:33:30.620 And then, you know, insert plot line.

01:33:32.860 She finds out that he's a philanderer and he's like banging a bunch of women or something.

01:33:35.780 Insert fear porn to split more families up.

01:33:38.440 Or she finds documents under the bed or in the closet of Epstein and records.

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01:35:11.180 And then she's like, Bill, what is this?

01:35:14.400 And he's like, what I do on that plane is none of your business, Melinda.

01:35:18.240 I'm raising money for philanthropy.

01:35:20.960 Yeah.

01:35:21.440 And then she's like, I can't do this anymore.

01:35:23.600 I'm leaving you.

01:35:24.680 You are not the man I married.

01:35:26.540 And he's like, I have to do it, man.

01:35:29.360 And then that like that to me sounds, I haven't seen it, but that's just based off what they

01:35:33.600 were doing to people like Martin Luther King, right?

01:35:35.920 They're the CIA sending him letters saying, basically, you should take yourself out.

01:35:39.280 Oh, literally, you should kill yourself because we have blackmail.

01:35:42.140 You can read that letter.

01:35:43.460 It's on Wikipedia.

01:35:44.280 Or sending out pictures of him having affairs, you know, which again, they're gathering blackmail

01:35:52.520 stuff to try to take out people who were rebelling.

01:35:53.780 They did the same thing to Kennedy.

01:35:55.080 Kennedy.

01:35:55.820 They took out Malcolm X, in my opinion.

01:35:57.180 I think that he came out recently.

01:35:58.560 Remember when Bill Gates was asked about Epstein?

01:36:00.540 He's like, well, he's dead now.

01:36:01.840 Yeah.

01:36:02.140 Yeah.

01:36:02.580 Wow.

01:36:03.880 So you really need to be more careful.

01:36:05.860 Yeah.

01:36:07.160 Is that what he said?

01:36:08.160 I forget.

01:36:09.000 There is a better quote than that.

01:36:10.320 Strongly implied.

01:36:12.380 Strongly implied.

01:36:13.280 It would have been so.

01:36:13.980 So there's really nothing more to say about that.

01:36:16.140 If he, I would have been, I would have actually, I'd be a big fan of Bill Gates.

01:36:19.520 I'd be very impressed if he went, well, he's dead now.

01:36:22.080 So don't forget it.

01:36:23.460 You cross the gates and you get what's coming to you.

01:36:27.020 I'd be like, wow, that was crazy.

01:36:28.740 I respect that.

01:36:30.540 Yeah.

01:36:31.440 Yeah.

01:36:31.640 But, or, or in reality, I think the, the conspiracy theory, it's not really a conspiracy

01:36:37.000 theory, but the theory that makes the most sense is they're all actually really incompetent

01:36:40.440 doing random things and failing.

01:36:42.660 We know about Diddy because they're actually not very good at what they do.

01:36:46.060 Well, some of them are good at what they do.

01:36:47.420 Some of them are successful, right?

01:36:49.260 And they're facepalming when they're underlings.

01:36:51.820 Yeah, exactly.

01:36:52.440 Like I think of it as like all the other human traffickers are like fucking Jeffrey, dude,

01:36:57.260 you fucking are so shitty at this because they're all trying to run their shit.

01:37:01.160 And he's ruining everything.

01:37:02.380 The cartels are like watching TV and they're like, oh, what an idiot.

01:37:05.400 I mean, every friend group has that friend that just like can't hold their shit together.

01:37:09.080 But then it depends on how you define what they see as successful.

01:37:12.380 Like sometimes I'm like, are they just agents of chaos so they can't do their other crazy

01:37:16.800 shit over here?

01:37:17.700 Well, they're all individuals, right?

01:37:19.040 They all run their own lives and want to do their own things.

01:37:21.320 Like that's the thing about conspiracy theories is everyone wants there to be one.

01:37:24.560 Right.

01:37:24.720 But there's literally eight and a half billion because we all have our own lives.

01:37:28.880 So when Epstein goes down, the group chat lights up and it's like one cartel member is

01:37:34.060 like, yo, are you seeing this?

01:37:35.340 And then like the Clinton Foundation is like, oh, man, like hopefully we're isolated, but

01:37:40.200 they might get us.

01:37:41.300 And then you've got Diddy is texting him being like, oh, man, you know, they're all just in

01:37:47.160 this group chat being like, yo, I'm watching this one cartel guy call me, wake up, wake

01:37:50.900 up, calls Diddy and he's like, hey, what's going on with Epstein, dude?

01:37:54.620 It's like, don't worry, don't worry.

01:37:55.420 We're fine.

01:37:56.000 We're we had nothing to do with him.

01:37:57.300 And now now Diddy gets hit.

01:37:59.340 The cartel guys are like, oh, man, they're calling their friends in Thailand.

01:38:03.420 Can Seamus make this a cartoon?

01:38:05.400 That's actually a good idea.

01:38:06.840 They're group chats.

01:38:07.600 They have conventions.

01:38:08.920 They're at they're at they're at Traffic Con.

01:38:10.960 They do.

01:38:11.780 Traffic Con 2024.

01:38:13.320 And it's a lot smaller.

01:38:14.420 And they're like, well, we lost funding when they got Diddy and Epstein.

01:38:17.160 I mean, wasn't it interesting that Diddy wasn't on the plane, but Diddy sent his plane

01:38:21.060 over to the Virgin Islands?

01:38:22.320 Yeah.

01:38:22.660 What's up with that?

01:38:23.300 No one knows what was on it.

01:38:24.840 I assume it was evidence.

01:38:26.000 Right.

01:38:26.420 Like something.

01:38:27.080 Right.

01:38:27.260 Gold.

01:38:27.620 Like what do you think the raids were about?

01:38:28.980 Children.

01:38:29.560 The raids were.

01:38:30.240 It was probably to get evidence.

01:38:31.400 I was on a lot of Twitter spaces with people that actually like have expertise in law enforcement

01:38:35.820 and like know more than me.

01:38:37.320 And they all felt like it was like there.

01:38:40.260 So the civil case was the lawsuit that we've all read.

01:38:42.800 But that just implies that then they have to open a criminal case.

01:38:45.820 And so then in a criminal case there, they need to be airtight.

01:38:49.480 They don't prosecute.

01:38:50.560 They're not going to arrest Diddy if they can't put him down.

01:38:53.100 Right.

01:38:53.380 So they were speculating that the raids are just to accumulate evidence to get an airtight

01:38:57.780 case.

01:38:58.100 There's not actually an arrest warrant for Diddy out right now.

01:39:00.120 It's not like he's on the run.

01:39:01.440 Right.

01:39:01.620 Even though it was a great headline to run at the time.

01:39:03.500 Like, do you think they're just getting evidence to then just keep out of the public

01:39:06.880 eye?

01:39:07.140 Again, a lot like Epstein, there's videos that they in like that whole filing cabinet

01:39:11.480 stuff that obviously no one's seen.

01:39:13.840 That's the real question.

01:39:14.620 And if Diddy's doing all this stuff, that's perhaps what's going on.

01:39:16.720 The real Diddy was on that plane.

01:39:18.380 The fake Diddy stayed behind.

01:39:19.980 There we go.

01:39:21.880 Here's the crazy thing, right?

01:39:24.740 It's actually not that complicated to get a body double.

01:39:27.160 Yeah.

01:39:27.700 They're like they do it all the time in movies.

01:39:29.880 It's true.

01:39:30.080 It's not double.

01:39:30.980 And sometimes they'll be like, you know, the actor and their stunt double.

01:39:34.060 And you're like, they really do look very similar.

01:39:35.840 And then the thing is, you guys have probably been in this moment where you've seen a celebrity

01:39:41.540 on the street and you don't quite know if it's them or not.

01:39:44.220 Because when they make movies.

01:39:45.740 It looks totally different.

01:39:46.680 Yeah.

01:39:46.900 It's like makeup.

01:39:47.860 It's angles.

01:39:48.880 And then you see them.

01:39:49.460 You're like, is that really them?

01:39:51.200 Because I remember I've had these moments many times in my life where I was at a restaurant

01:39:55.820 once and the people, Glenn Howerton and Katie Olsen walked past the restaurant.

01:40:00.560 And it's just like, I see them and I'm like, it looks like the, was that them?

01:40:04.320 That's funny.

01:40:04.920 I think that was them.

01:40:05.860 I don't know.

01:40:07.040 Because you can't really tell.

01:40:08.240 Right.

01:40:08.480 So then imagine Puff Daddy.

01:40:10.960 I mean, come on.

01:40:12.200 Anybody who's doing anything like that, they got to have, they got to have something like

01:40:15.880 that, right?

01:40:16.920 I don't know.

01:40:17.520 I would say for sure with his level, but people higher up, I would feel for sure.

01:40:22.060 And then you do like, you do like what you do in Star Wars, The Phantom Menace.

01:40:28.440 The queen is dressed up like a servant.

01:40:30.460 Bingo.

01:40:30.880 And then the one on the throne is just some servant.

01:40:33.580 I mean, the reality is that if you, in the world we have today where you can literally

01:40:37.420 buy anything, if you have enough money, anything, all you need to have is enough money to buy

01:40:41.720 whatever service you're referring to.

01:40:43.220 And so if your service is kids on a Virgin Island, you just need enough money.

01:40:47.980 If your service is a body double, you just need enough money.

01:40:50.820 That's the unfortunate truth of our world today.

01:40:53.140 I read stories about like Saddam Hussein having multiple body doubles.

01:40:56.540 And it happens more often in, you know, in countries that are less secure than the United

01:41:02.920 States.

01:41:03.460 Yeah.

01:41:03.640 Cause now in the U S it's like, why buy a body double when you can buy the beast, you

01:41:08.200 know, like the unarmored, you know, limousine and have the same kind of, uh, the same kind

01:41:14.220 of armor and protection that like the literally have the military, right?

01:41:19.020 Like, so I'm not saying that the U S couldn't, but the U S just, I mean, it's better for the

01:41:24.580 U S to throw money at companies, like for the government to throw money at companies that

01:41:28.260 are going to make stuff for him.

01:41:29.120 You know, Mitt Romney could have a body double.

01:41:30.800 In fact, he could probably have like 80, there's no Trump body double never going to

01:41:33.980 happen.

01:41:34.420 He's like his weird hunched over back and like belly and hair, like cannot be

01:41:39.280 replicated.

01:41:40.660 Barron by like 60 years.

01:41:42.260 Cause Barron is like, apparently in a direct replica of him.

01:41:45.560 He's just, he's like, yeah, you guys hear the gossip about the interview that he gave

01:41:50.480 that he was like, apparently super cogent and like really smart.

01:41:53.500 Yeah.

01:41:54.080 The PBD podcast was talking about it.

01:41:56.100 I don't know someone, someone Barron, like he's just turning 18 or something.

01:41:59.180 And he like did this, like come at me interview with all sorts of people from the press and

01:42:02.620 podcasters, where he was like, I'm now on the public stage.

01:42:05.700 You can ask me anything.

01:42:06.840 Let's go.

01:42:07.400 Did he say he's a time traveler?

01:42:08.560 I don't know.

01:42:09.120 But he, apparently everyone else said that he was actually like really smart and held down

01:42:13.560 the conversation.

01:42:14.100 I wouldn't be surprised.

01:42:14.920 I mean, his mom knows like seven languages.

01:42:17.020 Yeah.

01:42:17.320 Right.

01:42:17.460 Right.

01:42:17.700 Right.

01:42:17.820 Right.

01:42:17.900 And look at the world he grew up in.

01:42:19.460 Exactly.

01:42:19.840 Yeah.

01:42:20.040 I'm sure he's reading all this stuff.

01:42:21.480 The dude's probably like light years ahead of where any of the other Trumps were.

01:42:25.580 He's light years ahead of where Hunter is.

01:42:26.920 I'm just saying.

01:42:30.720 Well, I mean, I mean, it depends what you're measuring.

01:42:32.640 Like Hunter is definitely moving at light speed somewhere.

01:42:35.880 Hunter likes to party.

01:42:36.980 He's my Hunter likes to party.

01:42:38.820 Hunter likes to party.

01:42:40.180 Yeah.

01:42:40.320 You can see Hunter party at Bidenlaptopmedia.com.

01:42:44.360 I'm, I'm, I'm, I feel bad for the Biden family.

01:42:47.080 Oh, so much.

01:42:48.260 I feel like Joe probably just molested his kids.

01:42:51.060 Yeah.

01:42:51.400 Something cycles of violence.

01:42:52.600 I mean, like it's in the Ashley Biden diary.

01:42:54.440 She's, she asks in the diary if she was molested.

01:42:56.760 The funny thing is, I, this is what I love about the Ashley Biden diary.

01:43:00.300 All right.

01:43:00.560 So the diary is real.

01:43:01.720 Yeah.

01:43:02.260 People have been criminally charged for it.

01:43:04.260 And Snopes is like, is the passage from the diary that says she may have been molested

01:43:09.820 and took inappropriate showers with her, with her father real unknown.

01:43:13.780 And then they say, while the diary is real and the diary was obtained by this woman.

01:43:19.240 And this diary has resulted in the, and this taking of the diary resulted in criminal charges

01:43:22.760 for this woman and this man.

01:43:23.740 And they did admit publicly in the trial that they gave the diary to project Veritas and

01:43:27.780 project Veritas has also been investigated in public knowledge.

01:43:30.220 They gave it to national file and national file publicly admitted.

01:43:32.660 They had the diary and published a story about it.

01:43:35.020 The images they published may be fake.

01:43:36.500 Right.

01:43:36.640 Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:43:39.180 Yep.

01:43:39.780 Like that, if that, if you can't believe that, you can't believe anything.

01:43:43.020 Yep.

01:43:43.240 If the argument is after all of that is public record, criminal court case, everything,

01:43:49.260 national file, we know they have it.

01:43:51.420 And they wrote a story about it.

01:43:52.560 And then you go, yeah, but maybe they faked those images.

01:43:55.720 I'll be like, okay, if that's the case, Trump has never committed a crime ever that all

01:44:00.240 like, if, if, if we get to that point and then you stop and say, but you can't believe

01:44:05.220 evolution is not even true then.

01:44:06.540 But you know, it's true because they cite their sources in places like Snopes and Politico

01:44:09.880 and you can click on their sources to see their sources.

01:44:12.300 And it's Snopes and Politico is their source.

01:44:15.300 They'll just go, you, you, I love going to Politico on stream and just like, oh, look,

01:44:19.820 a source click Politico.

01:44:20.980 Oh, look, a source click.

01:44:22.640 Did, uh, did, did Trump falsify business records in the Stormy Daniels case?

01:44:28.380 Unknown because the DA may have fabricated those, uh, those, those records.

01:44:32.380 I mean, how do we know?

01:44:33.540 It's like, how do we know?

01:44:34.200 I have a hard time even caring about that case because like, yeah, maybe hush money.

01:44:38.320 Cool.

01:44:38.620 Like, okay, 2020 election, uh, you didn't need to pay hush money because the whole CIA got

01:44:44.140 together to hush money your dude, your kid's fucking laptop.

01:44:48.200 Like, yeah, like, bro, what am I, what am I more concerned about?

01:44:51.120 Trump hush moneying one porn star because some sex happened or Biden's campaign hush

01:44:57.360 moneying the entire intelligence apparatus about the whole laptop.

01:45:01.500 Isn't it, isn't it even that there was no sex between the porn star and she had to pay

01:45:04.880 him a bunch of money because of that or something?

01:45:06.560 Uh, I think that that's the case.

01:45:08.480 She owes him like 300 grand.

01:45:09.960 She had to pay him back money.

01:45:11.120 And as she, she's supposed to, but she won't.

01:45:13.180 Yeah.

01:45:13.380 I mean, she said over her dead body, Trump will never get a cent from her, even though she

01:45:17.300 owes him like 300 grand.

01:45:18.140 Um, but then as for, um, the, the campaign paying off the, uh, the, the secure, the, uh,

01:45:26.800 intelligence apparatus, they did that gratis for free.

01:45:29.820 Yeah.

01:45:30.020 They were into it.

01:45:30.840 They were like, yo, cause he's, we'll do it.

01:45:33.280 We'll do it.

01:45:33.640 We got, we got this.

01:45:34.480 They were, they were, yeah.

01:45:35.680 And like, if you just go, so like you can read the letter that they published, the 51

01:45:39.900 intelligence agents that published that letter and you can look at who published it.

01:45:43.620 I mean, first off in the letter, they say, we have no evidence.

01:45:46.280 We just suspect because it has the signature of Russian disinformation.

01:45:49.140 So probably it is no evidence, but then you just go down the list of who they were.

01:45:53.040 And like the number one dude on the list, he's the guy that lied to us about, no, the

01:45:56.960 NSA doesn't spy on you.

01:45:58.200 Like no way.

01:45:59.220 And then the second guy on the list is like, no, we never torture anyone anywhere in any

01:46:04.000 secret prisons.

01:46:04.620 Like it's on their Wikipedia pages.

01:46:06.320 It's just Disneyland.

01:46:07.180 It's just fake bro.

01:46:07.980 And those are their 51 intelligence agent, like experts, which literally like disclaimer,

01:46:15.400 what intelligence agent means is professional liar for the government.

01:46:19.940 Yep.

01:46:20.320 Yep.

01:46:20.640 And you got to watch out for them in every institution, everywhere.

01:46:23.660 Yeah.

01:46:23.940 If you know about mockingbird where they infiltrate news media, they are everywhere.

01:46:28.060 It, the war is on reality and the way you perceive it with everything.

01:46:31.860 And I've said this before on IRL.

01:46:33.720 A lot of people think that, or a lot of people talk about like payoffs and stuff like that.

01:46:37.980 Like cash exchanges almost never happened.

01:46:42.380 And there's no reason for them to happen because the thing that people really want is access

01:46:48.280 to power.

01:46:49.120 The point of money is power.

01:46:51.960 That's the whole point of having money.

01:46:53.780 Like nobody likes having dollars just to have the dollars.

01:46:57.360 It's what the dollars can do.

01:46:59.180 So if you can get the same results in the real world without actually having to exchange

01:47:05.220 dollars, just because you have relationships, that's as good as money.

01:47:10.100 So if, so if, so if politicians are like, I'll be friendly to you, if you write a good

01:47:14.580 story about me, well, of course you're going to write good stories.

01:47:17.360 And it's good.

01:47:18.560 This is something that, that sparked up substantially with the internet, social currency.

01:47:24.440 So before social media without direct communications, it's hard to, to utilize notoriety.

01:47:30.900 Maybe you show up in town and you're a well-known rock star and you need a place to stay and you

01:47:34.420 don't want to spend money.

01:47:35.060 So you go to a hotel and then your guy calls and tries to negotiate with social currency

01:47:39.640 and the internet.

01:47:41.200 Occupy Wall Street.

01:47:41.960 Great example.

01:47:42.480 After Occupy, I didn't have a lot of money.

01:47:44.500 I was making some in donations.

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01:49:11.240 It was allowing me to eat and then I wanted to go to Spain.

01:49:16.600 So I tweeted, want to go to Spain?

01:49:18.540 Anybody able to help me out?

01:49:20.560 I get a bunch of emails.

01:49:21.400 Some people are like, we've got miles we've never used that have just stacked up from my,

01:49:25.120 you know, like, oh, my husband works this company where he flies and he has 10 million miles.

01:49:30.120 It's nothing for us to get you a plane ticket.

01:49:32.080 I'm like, thank you very much.

01:49:33.160 Then someone else was like, I know somebody in Spain who has a guest bedroom.

01:49:35.860 They said, you're totally cool to stay there.

01:49:37.820 They got extra key.

01:49:38.420 You're done.

01:49:39.080 Like, no worries.

01:49:40.120 That's social currency.

01:49:41.300 I didn't have to spend a dime.

01:49:42.360 Right.

01:49:42.520 The game has changed forever.

01:49:43.940 Right.

01:49:44.320 So social media allows you to do things to find those opportunities without needing money.

01:49:51.320 That's part of, that's another thing that makes me question when kids, when people say things are so difficult out there.

01:50:00.100 Right.

01:50:00.380 And I hear people saying that and I hear a lot of people talking about the difficulties of making money and I see the inflation numbers and stuff like that.

01:50:07.860 And I, so I don't think they're lying.

01:50:09.600 Right.

01:50:09.720 I don't think that they, I think that they believe they're experiencing that.

01:50:12.680 But I also wonder how, like, how much does it actually reflect real reality or does it reflect their preferences and what they don't want to do?

01:50:22.720 Because if you're like the kind of like go-getter person, that's just like, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm a hustler.

01:50:28.340 Like if you listen to, if you listen to old rap songs, right, they're always talking about being hustlers.

01:50:32.320 You know what hustling is.

01:50:33.320 They're out there selling drugs because they want that money.

01:50:35.600 They're going to go out there and they're going to get, going to get that money.

01:50:37.420 Now that's not saying that everyone should do that, but if you want something, you go out and you try to get it.

01:50:43.860 So if you want a job and you want to work and you want things, people will go out and do it.

01:50:49.100 So it makes me, it does make me curious and it makes me dig around and ask people a lot of questions and stuff.

01:50:55.300 But like, are the, the kids that are really depressed, that are unhappy, like, is it because they don't have money?

01:51:02.040 Like they say, or is it actually other things that are, that they think that they think are a lack of money?

01:51:08.760 It's like misplaced depression.

01:51:10.000 Cause there's no outside world to them anymore.

01:51:12.020 Cause I want to speak up for them a little bit in the sense that I was working restaurants for like, so I'm 31 now.

01:51:17.640 And I worked restaurants through most of my twenties and other jobs and stuff.

01:51:20.320 And for a while you could make enough money at those kinds of jobs where you could leverage it to like, if you're not spending it all on weed on your fucking free time or whatever, you could leverage it so that you do have the free time to side hustle.

01:51:35.120 And as shit's gotten worse and worse and worse, it's, it's less and less.

01:51:39.560 So like you have less and less free time to even side hustle.

01:51:42.880 If you're like, if you didn't get set up or set yourself up early with a job or a situation where you have extra hours or lots of like, then you are, people are starting to get trapped where now the economy is so bad and the pay is so bad that you don't even have the money or the time.

01:51:58.560 And then your mental state of like your shitty health is just like distract and your condition from school.

01:52:03.840 And this is happening.

01:52:04.780 This is all, this has kind of become a thing in the past four or five years, right?

01:52:07.460 A hundred percent.

01:52:07.900 So it's, so it's fairly new.

01:52:09.440 Yeah.

01:52:09.840 Okay.

01:52:10.280 Yeah.

01:52:10.440 Because it takes the, and the, that's, that's why I don't want to approach it and be like, oh, bullshit.

01:52:14.400 Like I'm like an old boomer, blah, blah, blah.

01:52:16.460 Cause it takes time for the realities of, you know, the, of this, the situation on the ground for people to actually occur to them enough where they're going to start talking about it.

01:52:27.600 And then they have to convince the other people that are not experiencing that.

01:52:31.900 You mean like women getting punched in the face in New York?

01:52:33.580 I mean, yeah, pretty much.

01:52:35.800 I mean, without, yes, actually is, is one of the things.

01:52:39.620 No, no, no, no, look, look, look, the, the, the punching in the face, it's like, well, you voted for this crime.

01:52:44.580 Nobody wants anyone getting punched in the face and getting punched in the face.

01:52:47.480 Isn't the end of the world.

01:52:48.300 But there was a guy scalding women.

01:52:50.120 He was getting, he was boiling water and then going and splashing women in the face with it.

01:52:53.680 Like this is insane.

01:52:54.760 Yeah.

01:52:54.960 It's getting bad.

01:52:55.700 And now there's a slasher again, but there's like slashers all the time in New York.

01:52:59.300 Dude, it's the seventies again.

01:53:00.380 Dude, the destruction of manliness and the destruction of masculinity and healthy men is just like so, so sad.

01:53:07.260 Yeah.

01:53:07.420 Well, they're, they're screaming that I, you know, for whatever reason, I saw this tweet where Katie Hobbs vetoed the protecting women in sports bill.

01:53:16.900 And I'm like, women overwhelmingly vote based on voting patterns for policies that strip women of their protections.

01:53:24.260 Men overwhelmingly vote to protect women.

01:53:26.380 But right now the issue is police officers in New York are screaming in the face of strong men.

01:53:32.840 You will go to prison for the rest of your life.

01:53:34.600 And we will clap as it happens.

01:53:36.120 If you try to be masculine and then the criminals who are not masculine, just psychotic.

01:53:42.740 Well, and there's a dual message.

01:53:44.560 There's a conflicting message being sent consistently.

01:53:47.260 Right.

01:53:47.660 So you're, you've got Daniel Perry getting arrested.

01:53:50.300 Don't you said that is then I'm sorry.

01:53:52.720 Daniel Perry too.

01:53:54.220 That's the Austin guy.

01:53:55.100 Oh yeah.

01:53:55.380 Okay.

01:53:55.800 And he got into it.

01:53:56.880 Yeah.

01:53:57.000 That's a simulation.

01:53:57.800 He got arrested because he won a gunfight.

01:54:00.000 If you walk up to someone's car with a gun and you got a gun out, that means you are ready for a gunfight.

01:54:06.120 If the other guy gets draws down on you and shoots you, you lost a gunfight.

01:54:10.900 That's what happened.

01:54:11.980 Specifically, this guy had the gun at low ready.

01:54:13.900 Yeah.

01:54:14.800 Walked up with a mob of people to this guy's car, a mob that's part of an organization that has killed before.

01:54:20.540 So it's not just like, look, I'm walking down the street.

01:54:23.220 In Texas too, right?

01:54:24.160 Yeah.

01:54:24.320 Right.

01:54:24.780 I was walking down the street.

01:54:26.120 No, we were riding our bikes and I see a guy with a crossbow and a bunch of bolts and I don't stop.

01:54:30.440 I don't think twice.

01:54:30.920 I don't care.

01:54:31.300 I'm not threatened in any way.

01:54:32.620 I see a guy walking down the street with a rifle.

01:54:36.000 I'm not threatened.

01:54:36.740 He's not approaching me.

01:54:37.360 I see a group of far left extremists who have killed screaming horrible things and a guy walks up to me at low ready.

01:54:43.540 I'm thinking this guy wants, they're coming up to me.

01:54:45.900 Why?

01:54:46.500 Now I'm threatened.

01:54:47.380 That's what happened in Texas.

01:54:48.800 But back to your point about Penny.

01:54:50.720 Yeah.

01:54:51.040 So you get people that are saying, we're going to throw you, or you get government throwing people in jail.

01:54:56.340 And then when something bad happens, you have a ton of people getting on the internet or getting a ton of media people saying, where are all the men?

01:55:04.560 Where are the men?

01:55:05.300 Where are the real men?

01:55:06.480 And I have a problem with the phrase real men, because that is just a manipulation tactic.

01:55:11.720 Because what a real man is, what they mean is, you're not doing the thing I think you should be doing.

01:55:19.140 That's what they're saying.

01:55:20.020 And so it's just like, all right, so this arbitrary phrase used to shame me, and I'm supposed to put myself in danger.

01:55:26.020 But when I put myself in danger, and I successfully protect you, then the law comes and throws me in jail.

01:55:34.360 Well, F you.

01:55:35.820 I'm not helping anyone, at least not in New York.

01:55:39.040 Yeah.

01:55:39.240 The answer is leave New York.

01:55:40.360 Yeah.

01:55:40.720 If I'm in Martinsburg, and something goes down at Walmart, I have no problem being like, all right, I'll help.

01:55:49.840 I'll draw, because I carry.

01:55:52.120 No problem.

01:55:53.160 I'm not doing that on the subway.

01:55:55.180 In New York City.

01:55:56.080 Was it in Florida, where the guy was like, hey, we expect you to defend your home.

01:56:00.320 Yeah, absolutely.

01:56:01.460 In New York, they deployed the National Guard to search people in subways.

01:56:05.840 Yep.

01:56:06.180 This is not to stop crime.

01:56:07.460 It's to stop vigilantes.

01:56:09.020 Probably.

01:56:09.420 Look, no one expects a little old lady to go nuts and shoot someone.

01:56:15.140 They do expect a little old lady to defend herself.

01:56:17.540 That's why they frisk her.

01:56:18.780 By putting National Guard in all these different subway stations, they're basically saying law-abiding citizens will be stopped.

01:56:24.860 Because the criminals are going to bypass it in whatever way they can.

01:56:27.740 They're also conditioning us to allow the military into our private spaces to control us.

01:56:32.880 Right.

01:56:33.080 There's that.

01:56:33.680 Yep.

01:56:34.720 That's dark.

01:56:35.560 Wonderful thought.

01:56:36.980 Yeah.

01:56:37.520 You know, surveillance state incoming.

01:56:39.880 But again, back to my earlier point, these are in big blue cities that keep voting for these things.

01:56:45.120 Yeah.

01:56:45.580 And it's not, look, when the lockdowns happened, we were in Jersey and we immediately planned, okay, we were planning on moving.

01:56:53.120 We're accelerating our move to the West Virginia tri-state area.

01:56:57.780 And we got out.

01:56:59.560 And so being in a suburban area, we weren't really that impacted by lockdowns because Walmart was two blocks away.

01:57:07.280 We had a backyard.

01:57:08.680 There's no, there's no real big police force around.

01:57:10.460 You chose a cool space for it.

01:57:11.740 Then we said, okay, well, the big fear was shutting down bridges.

01:57:15.160 If they say we're going to shut down the bridges out of Jersey, then you're stuck on this peninsula.

01:57:18.640 I was like, we don't want to be here.

01:57:19.480 We'd rather be mainland.

01:57:20.320 So we're going to leave.

01:57:21.260 We come to West Virginia.

01:57:23.080 West Virginia had mask mandates and they were only enforced by weirdo leftists in West Virginia,

01:57:27.920 which is few and far between.

01:57:29.100 And the only encounter we ever had that actually mattered was there's a coffee shop in West

01:57:33.700 Virginia that said masks required in this big, huge thing.

01:57:36.220 And a Starbucks was across the street and Starbucks said no masks required.

01:57:38.940 And so I was like, Starbucks it is, I guess.

01:57:41.540 But for the most part, we went to a bar and there was a sign on the door that said masks

01:57:47.380 are required as per state law.

01:57:49.320 This was actually the peninsula of Maryland because it's just North.

01:57:52.060 That's like very thin strip.

01:57:53.100 And we, and I opened the door, not a single person wearing a mask.

01:57:56.480 The bartender looks over and he just like, he just nods.

01:57:58.840 And there's a big Trump riding a tank with a machine gun.

01:58:01.300 And I'm like, we're good.

01:58:02.460 We don't got to worry about anything.

01:58:03.640 I was in Northwest Washington by Seattle.

01:58:06.880 Oh boy.

01:58:07.640 It was a wild time.

01:58:08.640 Dystopia.

01:58:09.100 Yeah.

01:58:09.460 I lost a lot of friends.

01:58:10.760 Oh yeah.

01:58:11.680 Yeah.

01:58:11.920 But I made it through.

01:58:12.800 I mean, I made it through.

01:58:13.640 I survived.

01:58:14.140 I didn't.

01:58:15.260 Yeah.

01:58:15.840 Yep.

01:58:16.140 When people go nuts.

01:58:17.200 Oh yeah.

01:58:18.000 Oh yeah.

01:58:18.680 Businesses closed down.

01:58:19.560 Like two, like there are literally to this day, people that drive in cars in my town.

01:58:23.360 With their masks on in their car in private.

01:58:25.980 Taylor Lorenz.

01:58:26.600 Very common.

01:58:27.320 Yeah.

01:58:27.520 Like in the grocery stores.

01:58:28.900 She goes to porn parties and dances in masks.

01:58:30.300 For years there was masks required signs up on businesses.

01:58:34.300 It's crazy.

01:58:35.060 Yeah.

01:58:35.740 That'll be a scar that will last through generations.

01:58:38.320 Yeah.

01:58:38.680 Despite like all the actual professionals, all the scientists coming out and like in public

01:58:42.700 in front of Congress being like, yeah, that's not real.

01:58:44.900 We didn't need to like those.

01:58:45.980 Fauci flip-flopping even.

01:58:47.600 Yeah.

01:58:47.700 You know what I loved the most during lockdowns was it starts with Fauci saying, you don't need

01:58:52.660 to be wearing masks.

01:58:53.680 That's for medical professionals.

01:58:55.160 Yeah.

01:58:55.460 And then all the right was like, no, everyone on the right was like, I want masks.

01:58:59.440 I had people mailing me masks and I was like, this is crazy.

01:59:02.780 And then there was a flip.

01:59:04.000 Yep.

01:59:04.180 But the best point was when, uh, someone asked Dr. Fauci about, uh, wearing two masks arbitrarily.

01:59:13.140 It was like some TV anchor made this thing up where she's like, now wearing one mask clearly

01:59:19.020 helps.

01:59:19.440 Would it be possible that wearing two masks is good?

01:59:21.820 And he goes, look, you don't need to be wearing two masks.

01:59:25.400 Okay.

01:59:25.800 One mask is good enough.

01:59:27.180 And then somehow that question popped up because he says, you don't need to be doing

01:59:32.280 it, but obviously two masks would help.

01:59:34.340 And then all of a sudden everyone started talking in the media about how two masks are

01:59:38.380 better.

01:59:38.640 And then the CDC said, yeah, two masks are better.

01:59:40.960 And then people started double masking.

01:59:42.280 I think Pelosi was double masking.

01:59:43.780 A lot of people, what a lot of people forget that like Fauci, if they were telling like the

01:59:48.480 official word from the government was you don't need a mask in the beginning.

01:59:52.240 And the reason they said that was specifically because they were afraid that medical professionals

01:59:58.000 were going to not have masks they needed.

02:00:00.780 So they literally intentionally lied to the public about masks at the outset right away.

02:00:08.140 And that there's no debate about that.

02:00:10.280 They were saying that for probably the first month, once they realized that they had enough

02:00:14.400 N95 masks that could protect that, where they could, where they could get them around.

02:00:18.540 Then they said everybody should wear them.

02:00:19.960 And they were wrong about that too.

02:00:22.240 They were, dude, they were wrong about ventilators.

02:00:24.000 Yeah.

02:00:24.360 They were wrong about that.

02:00:25.180 We were getting faulty tests from China.

02:00:27.300 It's like everything.

02:00:28.300 My favorite element of the lockdowns was the NPR story about China taking people's DNA.

02:00:34.340 Cause that's like, how do you convince someone that's happening?

02:00:36.540 You know what I mean?

02:00:37.000 Like I'm going to pull that one up just cause people probably won't even believe it.

02:00:38.760 You put it on NPR.

02:00:40.040 Yeah.

02:00:40.660 I mean, I was talking to a, to a boomer who is near and dear to me the other day.

02:00:44.980 And they, they said they didn't realize that Fauci was not the director of the CDC because

02:00:49.780 they were sure he was, because obviously he's Fauci.

02:00:52.500 Take a look at this.

02:00:53.080 This is from NPR.

02:00:54.320 This one is for all of your liberal family members who are like, China's not stealing

02:00:58.540 our DNA from NPR.

02:01:01.360 China wants your data and may already have it.

02:01:02.900 They say as COVID cases began to write this from 2021, a Chinese company contacted several

02:01:07.040 U.S. states and offered to set up testing labs, a by-product, the Chinese firm Beijing

02:01:10.820 Genomics Institute would likely gain access to the DNA of those tested.

02:01:14.320 The offer was tempting for states struggling to set up their own testing facilities for

02:01:18.340 a new virus on short notice.

02:01:19.260 But U.S. national security officials urged the state to reject the offer, citing concerns

02:01:22.400 about how China might use personal data collected on Americans.

02:01:25.540 As far as I know, they all turned them down.

02:01:27.960 So I tell people there was a fear that China was, I didn't say China stole it.

02:01:32.160 I said there's, there's a, there was a real fear that China was trying to get access

02:01:35.500 to our DNA through COVID tests.

02:01:37.080 And I had friends, liberal family members be like, oh, that's not happening.

02:01:41.800 China's not trying to steal your DNA.

02:01:43.380 And then I'm like-

02:01:43.720 Well, the moment Trump said China, everything about China is fake.

02:01:46.240 I pull up my phone, grab NPR and I go, here you go, read NPR.

02:01:48.660 I'm like, just read it.

02:01:49.500 And they're like, wait, what?

02:01:50.660 I'm like, whoo-hoo-hoo-hoo.

02:01:51.660 That's how they personalize weapons to you.

02:01:54.440 Just like with Operation Northwoods, I'm sure everyone's been through this.

02:01:58.100 You read what we are told is the official source or what is the trustworthy, authoritative

02:02:03.640 source.

02:02:04.360 And then you're talking to a friend or family member and you say, well, look at this crazy

02:02:09.000 story.

02:02:09.380 And they'll go, oh, shut up.

02:02:10.700 That's crazy.

02:02:11.220 It's not happening.

02:02:12.380 I was hanging out in New York with a friend of mine who's a, who's a famous comedian and

02:02:17.320 he's like a moderate guy.

02:02:18.100 He's not really big in politics.

02:02:19.880 And I, and he was asking me about like, you know, you do a political show.

02:02:22.540 Like, so what's going on?

02:02:23.200 Like people are calling you this, that, or otherwise the guy I've known for a long time.

02:02:25.820 And I was like, yeah, but it's like in this day and age, if you are just following

02:02:29.480 the truth, you're conservative and he's like, well, I don't know that's true.

02:02:32.940 And I was like, no, I'll give you an example.

02:02:33.940 Abortion, right?

02:02:35.020 Democrats at the federal level were trying to codify abortion up to the point of birth.

02:02:38.780 Their argument was if the woman's health was impacted in some way, uh, she, uh, negatively

02:02:44.780 impacting the mother, she can get an abortion.

02:02:46.720 I mean, that sounds reasonable, right?

02:02:47.840 If the mother could die, then we want to preserve the life of the mother.

02:02:51.300 Okay.

02:02:51.460 Here's the issue.

02:02:52.040 So the bill actually allows for abortion past viability, meaning if the woman is pregnant

02:02:57.520 with a baby that could survive, the argument is by having the baby, she dies, they can

02:03:03.880 kill the baby.

02:03:05.020 My argument is why not just end the pregnancy by emergency, having a C-section, the baby

02:03:10.820 lives, the mother lives.

02:03:11.960 And he goes, no, no, that, that can't be true.

02:03:15.340 And I was like, I am telling you right now, cause it was a few years ago.

02:03:17.880 So I was like, I'm telling you right now, the Democrat bill is to allow abortions where

02:03:23.720 they terminate the life of a baby that could survive on its own.

02:03:25.960 If it impacts the health of the mother.

02:03:27.680 And again, a lot of people don't think about what the ramifications would be.

02:03:31.060 It means it opens the door for legally, federally, everywhere, every state for a mother at nine

02:03:36.740 months, the baby could be born in a moment.

02:03:38.200 And they say, well, you know, she might suffer a hemorrhaging.

02:03:41.140 So let's just terminate the baby now.

02:03:43.060 And there are ways to legally compel women to have abortions.

02:03:46.300 Right.

02:03:46.720 Against their will.

02:03:47.420 So, so my friend, he said, I don't think this is true.

02:03:51.660 This can't be correct.

02:03:52.500 That sounds insane.

02:03:53.340 They would never allow that.

02:03:54.480 And I was like, my friend, I was like, I read this stuff all day, every day.

02:03:57.820 I pulled up the actual bill and I said, read section 13, read that right now.

02:04:01.940 And he reads and he goes, no, something's wrong.

02:04:06.020 This is not real.

02:04:07.140 What is this?

02:04:07.540 I was like, you're at Congress.gov.

02:04:10.440 I'm like, this is the bill.

02:04:11.540 This is the bill they're voting on right now.

02:04:12.840 I'm not lying to you, dude.

02:04:14.160 And he was like, but the Democrats can't be doing this.

02:04:16.300 I mean, this can't be true.

02:04:18.480 And I'm like, this is, this is the problem that there are people who live in this world

02:04:23.560 of, of like, not reality where they really do believe just because in their heart of

02:04:29.480 hearts, they heard it to be true that Democrats are good.

02:04:31.820 Republicans are bad.

02:04:32.660 And no matter what you show them, they're like, no, this must be a trick.

02:04:36.460 And I'm like, bro, that's, that's the bill.

02:04:38.680 Colorado has removed all restrictions for any, for no reason.

02:04:41.600 No one can just terminate the life of a baby at nine months.

02:04:43.780 I mean, I was like that for most of my life.

02:04:45.260 I was raised Democrat, Democrat parents never really thought about it.

02:04:48.380 I just was like, I want to go skateboard and snowboard.

02:04:50.020 Like not my deal.

02:04:51.560 And then during black lives matter, I was like, whoa, hold up.

02:04:54.240 We're burning cities now.

02:04:55.840 What is this?

02:04:56.640 Like, yeah, my friends were all going to Seattle to protest and I was like, I'm going to stay

02:05:00.080 guys.

02:05:01.340 Peace.

02:05:01.840 I actually don't think I need a, like, I see the pallet of bricks on the live stream and

02:05:05.360 I'm like, that's weird.

02:05:07.660 Yeah.

02:05:07.860 Why is that there?

02:05:08.600 I'm going to stay and watch the live stream.

02:05:09.980 You guys go be safe.

02:05:11.080 Have fun with those Soros bricks.

02:05:12.460 Yeah.

02:05:13.260 Yeah.

02:05:13.420 The bricks thing was funny.

02:05:14.860 All of these just like pallets of bricks were lying around and everyone's like, why are

02:05:18.420 those there?

02:05:18.940 And they're like, just coincidence.

02:05:20.380 And everyone on the left was like, no, that's fake.

02:05:22.440 Yeah.

02:05:22.800 That can't be real.

02:05:23.620 They didn't do that.

02:05:24.440 That didn't happen.

02:05:24.900 The funny thing is, I mean, in, in a lot of East coast cities where they use brick sidewalks

02:05:29.420 or have old brick sidewalks, the, the left just pulls the bricks out of the ground.

02:05:33.040 Yeah.

02:05:33.540 Exactly.

02:05:34.320 Yeah.

02:05:34.720 They don't, they don't need, they just don't have that in Seattle because it's a shithole.

02:05:38.720 Man.

02:05:39.180 You saw that video out of Seattle, that woman killing that other woman.

02:05:41.800 No, I try not to watch that shit.

02:05:44.200 There's two women and one's got a gun and she's marching to the woman who's crying, marches

02:05:50.020 her out the door and then shoves her.

02:05:51.720 The other woman falls down and starts crying.

02:05:53.140 The woman with the gun walks back in, walks halfway at the stairs, stops, turns around,

02:05:57.440 walks out the door, walks up to her and then there just shoots her and kills her.

02:06:00.400 It's wild.

02:06:01.140 Just like, why?

02:06:01.840 This is a stairwell one.

02:06:02.800 Yeah.

02:06:03.020 Where she says, I want to be at your funeral or something.

02:06:04.780 I don't know.

02:06:05.460 Yeah.

02:06:05.600 All I know is she says, bitch, you dead.

02:06:07.980 Crazy.

02:06:08.340 You dead.

02:06:08.800 And that's what's kicking her.

02:06:09.800 Yeah.

02:06:10.040 And then someone else, you hear someone talking and then she looks over and then shoots at

02:06:13.200 him.

02:06:14.720 Seattle.

02:06:15.420 Wow.

02:06:16.920 Hubs of nihilism.

02:06:18.260 Yeah.

02:06:18.620 And violence and despair.

02:06:20.020 I mean, at what point are we considering MKUltra to take away our gun rights?

02:06:23.860 Like, I'm not saying that I think that.

02:06:25.600 I'm just saying, like, at what point do we ask the question of like, because we know that

02:06:29.040 they can, you know, make people go insane to some degree.

02:06:31.140 We know that, like, there's no better, there's no better push for taking away guns than look

02:06:37.100 how dangerous guns are when they're in the hands of people with poor mental health that

02:06:40.120 we have nothing to do with.

02:06:42.080 Yeah.

02:06:42.340 Dave deranged us.

02:06:43.420 Here's, here's, we're running up on about five minutes left.

02:06:46.520 So I'll just go, we'll go as crazy as we can get.

02:06:49.180 Question for the panel.

02:06:50.640 If it turned out that there was a galactic federation of aliens that lived a predominantly

02:06:55.740 classical liberal type of galactic federation society and massively advanced technologies,

02:07:01.560 and they desperately want to induct the earth into the galactic federation and then grant

02:07:06.940 us, you know, trans-dimensional technologies for traveling the star and colonizing new

02:07:10.880 planets, but they can't until we have a unified global governance because a planet can't

02:07:15.200 be admitted.

02:07:15.880 Would you then agree with globalism?

02:07:17.380 No.

02:07:19.100 Nope.

02:07:20.120 Yeah, no.

02:07:20.820 I'm revolting against that.

02:07:22.160 I mean, we're a part of that moment in history, regardless of which side we take.

02:07:25.380 So like, we're already a part of how crazy that is.

02:07:27.500 So yeah, no, there's no global harmony.

02:07:29.280 There's human nature and people should do what they want from wherever they're from,

02:07:32.960 but the global situation can't withhold.

02:07:36.300 It can't maintain.

02:07:37.100 So think of it this, think of it this way, right?

02:07:38.520 Revolution.

02:07:39.080 There's a, let's say there's a, there's a, there's a country that is moderately successful

02:07:43.300 developing, um, moderately educated that their GDP is, is, is around 17, 18,000 per

02:07:49.540 capita.

02:07:49.840 And so, you know, they're getting there and they say, we'd like to be admitted into, uh, formally

02:07:54.980 recognized by the UN, but there are 17 warring tribes.

02:08:00.380 No, no, no, no, no, no.

02:08:01.180 But in this country, there are 17 warring tribes and they're all demanding.

02:08:05.580 They get the seat at the table at the UN meeting.

02:08:08.540 And the UN says, which one of these people do we actually bring to vote on behalf of

02:08:12.640 your country?

02:08:13.260 None of them can agree on what, who's in charge of this country.

02:08:17.400 Yeah.

02:08:17.660 There's a bunch of beautiful things.

02:08:18.800 They all recognize the borders.

02:08:20.260 How are we supposed to induct them?

02:08:21.760 That is how it works.

02:08:22.340 So imagine you've got gray aliens.

02:08:24.380 They're not trying to kill us or take over the planet.

02:08:26.820 They did turn off all our nuclear weapons in the seventies to prevent world war three.

02:08:30.060 And that's the most, like, look, we're not, you're not gonna let you do this.

02:08:32.860 And then when the, uh, when the U S government, China, Russia are in communications, they're

02:08:39.060 like, look, man, if we say the U S is the voice of earth, Russia's fire firing nukes,

02:08:44.700 and then we have to intervene.

02:08:45.600 We can't do that.

02:08:46.620 We, we, we will not intervene and decide for humanity who will speak for humanity.

02:08:50.740 You need to unify your planet before you can join the galactic federation.

02:08:54.180 And that honestly, it's a fair question because it gives, it lends an explanation to how these

02:08:58.500 people could do such evil things on behalf of this globalist agenda and still see themselves

02:09:03.820 as being in the right, right?

02:09:05.220 Like see themselves.

02:09:05.860 Like I'm part of a bigger thing than these little people could understand.

02:09:09.060 And it's a hard job, but someone has to do it.

02:09:10.760 It's like my favorite movie.

02:09:11.820 One of them is tombstone.

02:09:13.040 Those guys you think are the good guys, but they take over everyone's guns away.

02:09:16.960 You know, they're not really.

02:09:18.040 I love that movie.

02:09:20.540 Val Kilmer is the best in that movie.

02:09:21.960 I'm your Huckleberry.

02:09:23.200 It's the best.

02:09:23.820 Oh, I love it when he shoots the guy in the head and he goes, I believe the strain was

02:09:26.980 too much for him to bear.

02:09:30.060 It's beautiful.

02:09:30.900 Oh my God.

02:09:31.580 But they're also kind of the bad guys, right?

02:09:33.600 Because they took away everyone's ability to arm themselves.

02:09:35.940 So anyone comes and says, you should not, you know, they'll turn off my way to defend

02:09:41.100 myself.

02:09:41.800 Screw you.

02:09:42.480 I don't want anything to do with it.

02:09:43.860 That's such a great line.

02:09:45.200 The strain was too much for him to bear after he shot him in the head.

02:09:48.300 Like you think?

02:09:50.460 He's so good.

02:09:51.160 He was so good in that movie.

02:09:52.840 Yeah.

02:09:53.120 I love that line.

02:09:54.120 It's great.

02:09:55.280 But yeah.

02:09:55.640 So, so the reason I ask that is the simple thing is if evidence of aliens emerged, and

02:10:02.720 this is why I think it's silly.

02:10:03.700 It's not sure.

02:10:04.120 There's no galactic federation, right?

02:10:05.300 Obviously there's no evidence to suggest there is.

02:10:06.940 It's just a fun sci-fi thought.

02:10:08.700 Tomorrow they show up.

02:10:09.820 No, but here's the thing.

02:10:10.580 If they're really, if, if the powers that be in these countries really wanted to unify

02:10:16.060 the planet, they would fake a galactic federation because that would actually convince a lot of

02:10:20.760 people.

02:10:21.160 You're right.

02:10:21.740 They'd say your grandmother's cancer cured.

02:10:24.080 Your father's Alzheimer's cured.

02:10:25.840 But we don't get the technology until we're in the galactic federation.

02:10:28.500 You are correct.

02:10:28.900 So we have to form a unified global governing body so that we can send an envoy to the

02:10:33.660 galactic federation on behalf of all of earth.

02:10:35.560 And then people would be like, really?

02:10:36.740 Like you'll live forever.

02:10:37.860 You'll be young again.

02:10:38.700 You could fly, teleport.

02:10:40.280 All of these things are available.

02:10:41.420 These technologies in the galactic federation.

02:10:42.800 So long as you give us your power and your voice, let us control it all.

02:10:46.760 Is like an evolved version of the project blue beam idea where they, you know, a hologram

02:10:51.760 in the sky to kind of create a world, uh, global unit.

02:10:54.940 That one's fear-based and that one's hope-based.

02:10:56.840 Right, right.

02:10:57.340 But it could be a fear-based at first that turns into hope, you know, because like behind

02:11:00.500 the fear is this paradigm.

02:11:01.680 What if, what if an alien, like an alien ship came above earth and everyone's all shocked

02:11:06.800 and then the aliens come out and they're humanoid gray aliens and they communicate in English

02:11:12.720 and they wheel in like three dying, like cancer patients.

02:11:17.740 And then they walk over and then they take a device and go over the person.

02:11:21.640 The person stands up and says, I feel good.

02:11:24.440 And the doctor's like, his cancer is gone.

02:11:25.760 And the alien's like, all you have to do is submit and this can be yours.

02:11:29.680 Don't trust it.

02:11:30.380 It's like someone telling me to take Neuralink.

02:11:32.340 Actually, you ever see the show Invincible?

02:11:34.320 No.

02:11:34.780 Yeah.

02:11:35.240 So, uh, I like that show.

02:11:36.420 It's on Amazon.

02:11:37.240 It's like their third most popular show right now or whatever after fall, like fall on some

02:11:40.680 other show.

02:11:41.080 But it's basically, uh, there's a guy, so it's a superhero show.

02:11:44.680 There's a guy called Omni-Man turns out he's an alien called a Viltrumite who was an advanced

02:11:49.620 force scout sent to earth to basically learn how it operates, learn their defenses, figure

02:11:54.580 out if they could resist and then prepare this, the planet for invasion.

02:11:58.560 The Viltrumites believe, uh, so the, the, the, the alien planet was a Viltrum or whatever.

02:12:04.120 I don't know.

02:12:04.600 They lived, they lived in a brutal society where they would fight each other intentionally

02:12:09.800 killing intentionally everyone in the fight so that only the strongest would ever survive.

02:12:14.820 Ultimately creating Superman, a race of people who are all able to fly.

02:12:19.180 They're not invincible.

02:12:20.480 They live for hundreds of years.

02:12:21.960 And then, uh, there's a scene in the recent one where a cruise ship is about to be destroyed.

02:12:26.320 The hero Invincible, uh, he's half of Viltrumite.

02:12:30.140 So he's like Superman basically.

02:12:31.460 And the alien comes and says, if it were not like, he's like, I have to go and save these

02:12:36.360 people.

02:12:36.640 And she follows him.

02:12:38.260 He struggles.

02:12:39.620 There's a sea monster destroying the vessel.

02:12:41.320 He struggles.

02:12:42.080 She saves the ship, killing the monster.

02:12:44.480 Instantly.

02:12:45.260 Boom.

02:12:45.840 And then she says, we are more advanced.

02:12:48.020 We are more capable.

02:12:49.240 The wealthy and the elite of your planet are sucking its resources dry and poisoning and

02:12:53.640 killing your people.

02:12:54.620 If we come in, everyone will live prosperous lives.

02:12:57.620 Everything will be better.

02:12:58.920 Why don't you allow us to do it?

02:13:00.700 And he's like, I don't know.

02:13:02.520 I'm like, it's kind of, it's kind of weak writing.

02:13:04.180 Cause I can, I can, I can certainly, he's like, we may not be perfect, but it's our choice

02:13:08.180 or whatever.

02:13:08.660 Because there's no one definite, there's no one definition for what prosperous means.

02:13:12.080 Yeah.

02:13:12.400 Right.

02:13:12.800 That's what the problem is.

02:13:14.040 My response is quite simple in that the, the planet is unworthy to join a galactic federation

02:13:20.180 if it cannot overcome its own problems itself.

02:13:22.600 If you come in and you take the people and you form them into what you want them to be,

02:13:26.560 then they may just be a plague on any kind of galactic federation.

02:13:29.440 But the general idea is not to get into sci-fi stuff.

02:13:31.980 The idea is if there's a powerful elite group that feels they should be in charge because

02:13:36.540 they can save lives, it's, it's, it's, it's a devil's bargain.

02:13:40.240 It's not worth it.

02:13:40.960 You're going to end up with, you're going to end up like a, a, a domesticated animal.

02:13:47.260 It's tyrannical.

02:13:48.640 You're on it.

02:13:49.540 It's the, the tyranny begets a society that is unable to adapt and survive.

02:13:53.720 Humans have to overcome these things on their own.

02:13:56.460 If they do not, and someone does it for them, domesticated animals, you take, what happens

02:14:00.900 if you let the cows go?

02:14:02.160 They'll just all die.

02:14:03.380 Let the chickens out.

02:14:04.220 They'll just all die.

02:14:05.420 They are domesticated.

02:14:06.260 It can no longer adapt and survive on their own.

02:14:08.180 Maybe after most of them die, some of them survive and some of them adapt and some of

02:14:11.700 them evolved after the fact.

02:14:12.980 But another argument is homogeny is deadly.

02:14:15.700 The diversity of, of the planet of humans and all these different pockets with all the

02:14:19.460 different religions, all the different beliefs, like that's what keeps us growing.

02:14:22.120 That's what keeps us thinking.

02:14:22.980 That's what keeps us alive.

02:14:23.520 Too much homogeneity means that like a single vector can destroy, you know, an entire species

02:14:30.380 or, or, you know.

02:14:31.640 Well, is it about, it is about that time.

02:14:33.560 So I want to say thank you to everybody who hung out and watched the show.

02:14:36.760 It's a lot of fun.

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02:14:43.180 Do you guys want to get any last words and then shout outs before we wrap up?

02:14:48.060 Yeah.

02:14:48.440 I just appreciate being here.

02:14:49.280 It was a great talk.

02:14:50.100 Thanks, man.

02:14:50.780 Looking forward to our talk later.

02:14:51.720 What's your social media?

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02:15:26.340 We'll be, that's at three, right?

02:15:28.000 PopCultureCrisis.com.

02:15:28.900 Yeah.

02:15:29.160 We're going to go deep on a lot of the ditty stuff we just talked about.

02:15:31.580 A lot of the other.

02:15:32.360 Yep.

02:15:32.580 We're going to go crazy.

02:15:33.380 So there'll be another few hours of us just going nuts.

02:15:36.380 Thanks for having me, guys.

02:15:37.180 Right on.

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