The Culture War - Tim Pool - The Culture War #61 Feminism Has Become Anti Female, Going Woke, Protecting Males w⧸Katherine Krozonouski & Natasha Biase

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00:00:57.060 We're going to have a big show on which Taylor Swift album is actually the best Taylor Swift album.

00:01:02.240 Hannah Clare, what's the best Taylor Swift album?

00:01:04.800 Well, I've always preferred Folklore and Evermore personally, but I know it's a controversial statement.

00:01:11.440 There are a lot of interesting good men having this debate, also some women talking about it.

00:01:16.220 I'm glad that we're finally having this conversation.

00:01:18.340 We realized that our male viewership was too high, and so we're going to give the women what they want,

00:01:22.360 and we're going to talk about Taylor Swift for two hours.

00:01:23.900 No, I'm kidding. We're going to talk about politics.

00:01:27.320 Again? But you said Taylor Swift!

00:01:29.440 Well, I'm sure Taylor Swift will come up, actually, because Taylor Swift actually somehow made her way into politics without saying anything.

00:01:36.360 Everybody was just really concerned she was going to scream Joe Biden's name at a concert or something.

00:01:39.480 But the interesting thing is, I think the core of a lot of this, I actually pulled up a bunch of stats.

00:01:46.480 The culture war could break down in a bunch of different ways, but one of the ways it could break down is male versus female.

00:01:51.100 Women vote Democrat, men vote Republican.

00:01:53.220 It's kind of weird.

00:01:54.860 And then you have, in deep blue cities, overwhelmingly Democrat and the results of that.

00:01:59.800 So, I don't know, do you guys want to introduce, do you ladies want to introduce yourselves?

00:02:03.340 Um, I'm Natasha Biazzi. We are the co-hosts of The Shallow End. I also write for The Publica, do some videos with them, and I also do some videos with Redux Magazine.

00:02:13.280 I'm Kat Krasnowski. I'm a mom, so that's what I do outside of our show.

00:02:21.140 Nice.

00:02:21.620 Yeah, that's great.

00:02:22.620 And of course, Hannah-Claire Brimelow's hanging out.

00:02:23.920 Hey, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimelow. I'm a writer for SCNR.com, that's Scanner News. I'm happy to be back. I'm really excited to derail this conversation directly into Taylor Swift all day long.

00:02:32.620 Thank you.

00:02:33.100 Yeah.

00:02:33.480 Do you think that Taylor Swift's music has any direct correlation on the crime rates that we're seeing in New York City?

00:02:38.720 There's only one way to find out, an intensive study, and see every time she's released an album when things have spiked.

00:02:44.260 Because we didn't have a Taylor Swift album for a while, and people were getting hit. So, I'm just saying.

00:02:48.500 That's a good point.

00:02:49.000 So, the men who are beating these women in New York are upset, and now that the Taylor Swift album is released, it's going to simmer down? Is that what you're saying?

00:02:55.380 Look, I'm just saying it could happen. I'm not saying it will.

00:02:57.940 She has the capacity for peace across the globe, arguably.

00:03:01.000 She can bring change.

00:03:01.900 Yeah.

00:03:02.240 I agree.

00:03:02.640 Or chaos, right? She just put out that diss track with Tim Kardashian, and then the Biden administration had Kim Kardashian at a meeting this week.

00:03:08.980 It's true.

00:03:09.360 So, I don't think they're getting her endorsement.

00:03:11.040 No.

00:03:11.380 Oh my God, the conversation is actually going to Taylor Swift.

00:03:13.580 Look, if you want to talk about politics of Taylor Swift, but she actually is, I think, a really interesting person when it comes to conservative politics.

00:03:20.840 There's a guy on Twitter named Edmund Smirk.

00:03:22.820 He writes a lot, and he's kind of coined this term, Swiftian normality is what the right needs to embrace in order to win.

00:03:29.120 Swiftian?

00:03:29.720 Swiftian normality, exactly, because she represents everything that conservatism kind of is supposed to be.

00:03:35.700 Gender wars aside, you know, she's moderately conservative.

00:03:39.060 She's feminine.

00:03:39.920 She doesn't have any tattoos.

00:03:41.460 She doesn't do drugs.

00:03:42.260 She's pretty, you know, inoffensive, and I think that that's something that, like, more women should embrace in conservative politics, and also, you've seen a lot of men kind of criticizing her lately for her relationship with Travis Kelsey, too.

00:03:55.020 So, it's just like, she's like, I don't know, they're like the American dream, and I think that there's something that we need to go back to to preserve normality.

00:04:02.520 Yeah, as opposed to, like, idolizing someone like Ice Spice, or I don't know who sings that song, WAP, but.

00:04:08.820 I think it's Nicki Minaj.

00:04:09.640 I had to, like, Google what that was about.

00:04:11.580 Is that Cardi B?

00:04:12.420 Oh, it's Cardi B, okay.

00:04:13.340 Like, I didn't know that term, and I Googled it, and I was like, that's disgusting.

00:04:17.800 And that's, like, so, if we're going to be, like, conservatives and criticize pop culture, like, why don't we, maybe it's just because it's such low-hanging fruit that we don't be, like, her.

00:04:24.880 That's so gross.

00:04:25.700 Like, children are listening to this music as opposed to just, like, criticizing Taylor Swift for being, like, unmarried.

00:04:30.120 It's like, okay.

00:04:31.140 Do you think conservatives have a tendency to be anti-all pop culture?

00:04:35.760 Yes.

00:04:36.040 Because, like, I have this theory that, you know, pop culture is going to exist no matter what.

00:04:40.060 Somebody is going to be the pop icon, and conservatives should really pick their heroes, who they're going to back, rather than saying all of them are bad.

00:04:47.260 Yeah, there's a lot of degeneracy in Hollywood.

00:04:48.840 On the other hand, it's not going away anytime soon.

00:04:50.980 Absolutely.

00:04:51.320 Right, and unless you're calling it out, like, people are going to be led by what's happening in Hollywood and in the media.

00:04:57.600 Yeah.

00:04:57.860 And that's what we kind of talk about on our show.

00:04:59.320 Yeah.

00:05:00.100 We think it's important for conservatives to embrace culture, but, like, steer it in a direction that's going to be more wholesome instead of just, like, rejecting it altogether.

00:05:08.040 Because that's not how you're going to influence young people.

00:05:10.680 And you're not going to win people over that way either.

00:05:13.760 Especially with Taylor Swift being as neutral as she is.

00:05:17.300 Like, she does have that photo where it's, like, Biden.

00:05:19.460 The cookies.

00:05:20.140 Yeah, or whatever that was.

00:05:21.100 She has, like, a cake with his name on it.

00:05:22.380 No, it's cookies.

00:05:22.980 It's cookies, yeah.

00:05:23.800 From last cycle.

00:05:24.960 Yes, yes, yes.

00:05:25.720 But she's not overtly political, like, say, Mark Ruffalo or something.

00:05:29.720 Right.

00:05:30.200 Oh, yeah, he's a monster.

00:05:31.880 In the movies.

00:05:33.060 Yes.

00:05:33.900 In the movies, that's right.

00:05:34.900 Yeah.

00:05:35.280 And maybe real life.

00:05:36.180 Yeah.

00:05:36.420 Who knows?

00:05:37.280 So, let me ask you guys, do you consider yourself conservative?

00:05:40.500 Yeah.

00:05:40.780 Yeah.

00:05:41.660 Yes.

00:05:42.220 And where are you from, is it?

00:05:44.180 We're from Toronto in Canada.

00:05:45.880 The land of the not-so-free.

00:05:47.460 The not-so-free.

00:05:48.060 It's really bad up there.

00:05:48.960 Yeah.

00:05:49.240 I'm wondering why it is.

00:05:50.540 And we can start, I suppose we'll just go all the way back and start from the most

00:05:54.680 broad and crazy question.

00:05:56.180 Why do women tend to vote left?

00:06:00.020 Like, the polls show it.

00:06:01.220 The voting patterns show it.

00:06:02.380 The midterms in, you know, 2022 showed it.

00:06:05.980 Men vote Republican.

00:06:07.220 Women vote Democrat.

00:06:07.960 What's that all about?

00:06:08.760 Is it abortion?

00:06:09.460 Women just want to get abortions?

00:06:10.400 Ah, I hope that's not the reason.

00:06:13.520 I think I saw someone on Twitter say something that I found really interesting.

00:06:18.720 He said something like, women have kind of forgotten how life used to be before all of

00:06:24.020 these protections were in place for women.

00:06:25.540 Like, just in Canada, I just Googled it the other day, but in 1983, marital rape became

00:06:30.700 illegal.

00:06:31.080 So that's like, what, 40 years ago?

00:06:34.360 So it wasn't, it's recently that we've enjoyed all of these protections from the law.

00:06:39.920 And I feel like as a woman, I feel safe walking down the street in a major city where in parts

00:06:44.120 of the world you don't have.

00:06:45.800 Mostly.

00:06:46.480 Like, mostly.

00:06:47.540 And in so many parts of the world, you don't have that at all.

00:06:50.600 And I think women have forgotten what it was like, because in my generation, we've always

00:06:54.120 had those protections and we've always felt so safe.

00:06:56.500 And it's like, you forget how safe you are.

00:06:59.660 So you start voting, like, as if that's just the natural state of the world.

00:07:02.660 But the state of the world is rape.

00:07:03.980 Like, it is.

00:07:04.580 Like, that's how it is in so many cultures where you don't have these protections.

00:07:07.960 And I think we need to remember, like, we voted these things in.

00:07:11.080 They are not just the way the world works.

00:07:13.280 Typically men voted them in too, right?

00:07:15.200 Yeah.

00:07:15.420 So one of the stories that I love to tell is when I did hostile environment training

00:07:19.780 for conflict reporting.

00:07:21.480 And this is where real life clashes with diversity requirements at corporations and the threat

00:07:27.900 of lawsuits.

00:07:29.200 So let's just be real.

00:07:31.740 To anybody who understands, like, news reporting in the Middle East, if you're a woman, you will

00:07:37.480 be probably raped and murdered or enslaved.

00:07:39.580 And if you're a man, you will just be murdered.

00:07:42.200 Or whether you're a man or a woman, they might try to—well, if you're a guy, they might

00:07:45.040 kidnap you to sell.

00:07:46.220 If you're a woman, they will kidnap you, rape you, and then sell you.

00:07:49.660 And doing these hostile environment trainings, they did give us a training where—so they

00:07:55.500 do these scenarios, these role-playing things where they had us driving in these SUVs.

00:07:59.640 A bunch of guys jump out with guns pointed at us.

00:08:01.840 Then they take all the women from the vehicle, bring them into a big barn, and then all the

00:08:06.660 women start screaming.

00:08:08.080 And so the women who were screaming are being told by these guys to play a game.

00:08:12.220 Hey, now start screaming.

00:08:13.480 But the guys are all outside on the ground with guns pointed at their heads while they're

00:08:16.620 hearing the women scream.

00:08:18.060 The women didn't get that experience at all.

00:08:19.860 So they didn't do the inverse where the men get brought into the barn and scream because

00:08:23.320 that's—

00:08:23.720 They were kind of in on it the whole time.

00:08:25.620 Well, it's like everybody's in on it.

00:08:27.620 You're role-playing.

00:08:28.600 So the men and women all go out together, and then they pull us out of the car, throw

00:08:33.220 the men on the ground, put us on our backs, hand behind your backs, guns to our head, bring

00:08:36.980 the women into the barn, and then the people running the program are like, okay, ladies,

00:08:40.300 now we're going to play a game.

00:08:41.160 All of you start screaming to scare your friends and the guys.

00:08:42.880 But it's like more real for the men in that scenario.

00:08:45.420 But like the training was for the men.

00:08:47.080 Yes, okay.

00:08:47.780 So we know it's fake.

00:08:49.060 We know we're going through a scenario, and the actors are laughing or whatever.

00:08:52.780 There was no inverted scenario.

00:08:54.420 There was no moment where they pulled the car over, grabbed the men, put the women on the

00:08:58.000 ground, and brought the men into the barn, and then started having, okay, men now scream

00:09:01.440 you're being raped.

00:09:02.520 That's not going to happen.

00:09:03.840 But the funny thing that happened was back at the HQ after the scenario, the guy doing

00:09:08.560 the training asks, he's like, so, you know, what did you learn from this?

00:09:12.660 And someone asked, is it only women who go through this?

00:09:16.980 And, well, legally, you can't really say things like that.

00:09:20.280 He goes, well, men get raped?

00:09:23.560 Men get raped?

00:09:24.400 Sure.

00:09:24.500 And I'm like, oh, shut the fuck up.

00:09:26.700 I mean, like, yes, you know, certainly, but come on, man.

00:09:31.280 In Egypt, during that revolution, like there was a Dutch reporter, a 26-year-old woman was,

00:09:37.340 and all the journalists were very critical of her.

00:09:40.080 She went into that rear square, and she got raped by thousands of men grabbing or ripping

00:09:44.520 her clothes off.

00:09:46.120 Yeah.

00:09:46.640 If you're a guy, and you walk in there, they're just like, I don't care about you.

00:09:49.040 A woman walks in, and it's like, all these guys are like, we can do whatever we want.

00:09:51.660 So that's the state of the world.

00:09:54.220 So then you have Western society, which has enacted laws and given guns to a lot of people

00:09:58.780 and things like that.

00:09:59.720 And now, to your point, a lot of people have forgotten that we built a safe and secure system

00:10:05.000 that allows it.

00:10:05.800 Yeah.

00:10:06.380 Yeah.

00:10:06.580 And when people acknowledge that men get raped, typically in the West, it's in prison,

00:10:11.140 which a lot of anti-women's violence crusaders will say, well, oh, that's a different environment.

00:10:16.700 It doesn't matter.

00:10:17.160 But it actually speaks to the brutality that men can have, which is, again, why the West

00:10:22.420 created protections for women, right?

00:10:24.640 Like, we don't want to default to a culture where any woman walking down the street could

00:10:28.540 potentially be attacked and raped.

00:10:29.900 And I think that inherently acknowledges the differences between men and women.

00:10:35.100 And that's why it is so bizarre to me that there has been such a divide between men and

00:10:41.080 women in terms of the way they vote.

00:10:42.880 I mean, when women pick liberal causes, I ultimately feel as though it's because they've been sold

00:10:48.040 a bad ideology.

00:10:49.360 They are often told that men are the problem when really, especially in the Western culture,

00:10:54.240 we have progressed to the point where male political leaders are often part of the reasons

00:10:59.000 that we are able to enjoy freedoms in a way that women who are in more conservative,

00:11:03.280 more religious countries cannot.

00:11:05.220 Well, it's definitely some cognitive dissonance for sure, I think.

00:11:08.580 But there are still men voting Democrats, specifically unmarried men,

00:11:12.760 or who at least affiliate with the Democratic slash independent parties or just non-Republican.

00:11:19.240 Like, they make up like 76% of voters.

00:11:22.240 Yeah.

00:11:22.780 So it's like, why?

00:11:23.440 Unmarried men.

00:11:24.020 Yeah, exactly.

00:11:24.800 So my issue is like, why aren't the men who are, you know, talking about women who vote

00:11:29.360 Democrat not going after and trying to reach those men?

00:11:32.220 Like, you talked about the gender war before.

00:11:35.080 Like, it's so tricky right now because women are online seeing all these men talk about

00:11:40.040 how it's funny to be punched in the face in New York or how much.

00:11:42.960 That's just me.

00:11:43.280 No, yeah.

00:11:43.920 But you know what I mean?

00:11:44.800 But like, some of the comments, but a lot of the comments in that were kind of jarring.

00:11:48.720 Like, I get, I understand what you said, sort of, like, because it's like, okay,

00:11:52.840 this is definitely the result of certain voting patterns.

00:11:56.420 But it's like, why are these men attacking women for the reason Republicans are losing

00:12:00.480 rather than addressing their own kind?

00:12:03.080 Here's actually the interesting thing about it.

00:12:04.700 But it's not women being attacked.

00:12:08.280 It's just the news reporting that it's women.

00:12:10.280 Yeah, that's understood.

00:12:10.960 So, in actually going through this, one of the stories, which is actually quite horrifying,

00:12:16.800 is a guy was scalding people.

00:12:18.600 He was taking boiling water and splashing in their faces.

00:12:21.120 What did the media report?

00:12:22.200 Man who scalds several women arrested.

00:12:24.960 He scalded everybody.

00:12:26.200 There were men who were victimized as well.

00:12:28.040 And I think the media was like, a story about a man punching a woman is going to get a lot

00:12:32.360 of traffic.

00:12:33.100 Then you find out the guy was actually just walking up to random people and punching them.

00:12:36.040 Um, I, I, I, it's hard to know for sure.

00:12:39.720 It feels like there was, there was like a couple of guys who were specifically going

00:12:44.000 out, attacking women for sure.

00:12:45.620 But some of the attackers that people were talking about were attacking literally everybody,

00:12:49.160 but the media was just reporting that as women.

00:12:50.800 Right.

00:12:51.300 So the, the, the, the, the, the issue, I suppose with the, uh, the guys who vote Democrat,

00:12:56.860 I suppose the view that many guys have of those men is, of course, they're voting against

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00:14:33.200 Not genuine men and they are bringing about destruction or sowing discord and chaos.

00:14:40.180 There's a concept in biology called the sneaky fucker.

00:14:45.260 You guys ever hear that one?

00:14:46.120 No.

00:14:46.680 This is real.

00:14:47.160 It's a real term.

00:14:47.960 I think I learned this from Brett Weinstein.

00:14:50.900 So they're actually, oh, this is really great.

00:14:52.720 I learned this.

00:14:54.200 We have a pond just outside.

00:14:56.360 And just the other night, you could hear these, and I immediately knew that it was a frog.

00:15:02.060 I'm like, those are frogs.

00:15:03.000 They're called spring peepers.

00:15:04.340 That's what they're called.

00:15:05.320 They are one inch and they peep.

00:15:07.380 And, but only the boys, they peep as loud as possible.

00:15:11.200 And they're basically saying, Hey girl, what up for real?

00:15:14.540 Like it's a mating thing.

00:15:16.520 There's a women, the female frogs don't make any calls.

00:15:20.220 They seek out the man who's yelling.

00:15:22.240 Then there's a certain select group of these spring peepers who are male and don't peep.

00:15:27.340 They hide next to the, the, the spring peepers who are really loud.

00:15:31.020 And when the woman comes up, rape them.

00:15:34.040 So it's like, it's, it's, it's, you know, I guess in frog culture, it's different because

00:15:38.220 the female lays the eggs and then the male sprays them.

00:15:40.560 But the woman will be, the female frog will be coming to the loud, attractive peeper.

00:15:45.220 And then the low value, they're called sneaky fuckers, hiding there, jumps on her, latches

00:15:50.760 his arms around her.

00:15:51.540 And then it's like, I got you.

00:15:52.760 I've met some of those.

00:15:53.940 That's a male feminist.

00:15:54.720 Yeah.

00:15:55.100 Yeah.

00:15:55.340 That's fair.

00:15:55.860 And so, so bad.

00:15:57.200 They're the worst.

00:15:58.060 Male feminists.

00:15:58.900 Yes.

00:15:59.580 Truly.

00:16:00.140 We're led by one currently in Canada.

00:16:01.880 Yes.

00:16:02.320 Yeah.

00:16:02.560 There you go.

00:16:03.100 But, uh, uh, that's the, the biological term is sneaky fucker.

00:16:07.340 It's not an insult.

00:16:08.200 It means a male that reproduces through like.

00:16:11.640 Deception.

00:16:12.320 Deception or manipulation.

00:16:13.580 And that's what I see when I see like men voting Democrat, they show up to these female

00:16:18.040 rallies and they're like, whatever you say, uh, can I go to your whole apartment now?

00:16:21.880 Yeah.

00:16:22.200 And then they get really mad when the wind don't sleep with them.

00:16:23.980 Yes.

00:16:24.280 And then you have the guys who are like lifting and minding their own business and they're

00:16:27.400 like, vote Republican.

00:16:28.520 But the, so that I get, and I do agree, like these guys should be criticized all the same.

00:16:34.840 It's like, it's not, I don't think it's solely the concept of voting Democrat, but typically

00:16:38.920 that Democrat policies are high crime.

00:16:42.020 You know, it's causing a lot of issues right now, inflation.

00:16:43.740 But then you have, I think, uh, we have this story, 68% of unmarried women voted Democrat.

00:16:51.200 And then there was one poll from Pew several years ago that around 70% of millennial women

00:16:56.800 identify as Democrats.

00:16:58.120 And that is disproportionate.

00:17:00.060 Yeah.

00:17:00.400 So, you know, what, what causes that?

00:17:03.340 And the, the, the issue with the women getting attacked in New York is it has been a decade,

00:17:09.940 uh, you know, of these policies.

00:17:12.300 And so now you have a new generation of female voters and they all still keep voting for the

00:17:16.800 same thing.

00:17:17.840 My thing with the, uh, saying that I think it's funny is it's ironic in its purest sense.

00:17:24.840 They vote for these things.

00:17:26.560 They get what they voted for, but there's a few other ways to put it.

00:17:30.000 Maybe they're not even mad about it.

00:17:31.520 Like if I vote for gun rights and then some guys walking down the street with a gun, I'm

00:17:36.060 not going to cry.

00:17:36.760 I'm not going to be like, Oh no, well, I voted for the guy to be walking around with a gun.

00:17:39.620 So I, I get that.

00:17:41.380 And that's, that's New York.

00:17:43.860 I suppose the issue is though, why are so many of these people in New York who do vote

00:17:48.780 this way, then complain about it and then vote the same way again?

00:17:52.200 I think most people don't understand politics at all.

00:17:54.680 Like I think it's like, I live in Toronto, but I live in like a pretty, it's sort of like

00:17:58.420 just outside of the city.

00:17:59.520 So there are a lot of families.

00:18:00.500 I think a lot of those people are just too busy to actually pay attention to what's happening

00:18:04.480 past reading a headline or hearing what their friend says at dinner.

00:18:07.720 You know, I just don't think people have the time to actually sit down and invest in who

00:18:13.420 they're going to vote for.

00:18:14.920 But then why are left leaning parties?

00:18:17.880 So in the U S it's Democrats, but why are they able to capture that sort of non-attention?

00:18:23.220 Why do the people know, well, I'm going to default to this position?

00:18:25.860 I think it's like the politically correct choice.

00:18:28.060 Like, I think it's just like, if you're a conservative in Toronto, you're shunned.

00:18:31.320 It's probably the same in New York.

00:18:32.640 Like, I think it's like social suicide in LA, someone once said, if you come out publicly

00:18:36.900 as a Republican.

00:18:37.800 So are women more susceptible to that social pressure?

00:18:40.260 They're not.

00:18:40.440 I think men are too though.

00:18:42.020 But yeah, perhaps like caring more about what people think, especially women are more

00:18:45.600 collectivist.

00:18:46.400 Yeah.

00:18:46.440 Like the wine moms, Taylor Swift sings about the wine moms in her song.

00:18:49.280 Like they're so judgmental.

00:18:50.500 Yeah.

00:18:50.840 But then why is it that the wine moms are lining up on the side of the parties that are actually

00:18:55.120 encouraging crime in cities?

00:18:57.200 I don't think I said, like I said before, I think it's cognitive dissonance.

00:18:59.980 I don't think people see the connect yet.

00:19:01.440 I don't think it's gotten bad enough maybe yet where people are like, okay, this is actually

00:19:05.840 why these are happening.

00:19:07.920 Like why these things are happening.

00:19:08.980 Why these attacks are happening.

00:19:09.900 Why my taxes are so high.

00:19:11.400 I think that there's this liberal view of the world that's just kind of like flawed where

00:19:15.400 they're like, well, if we treat people nicely, then everything will be fine.

00:19:19.020 And it's like, not really.

00:19:20.040 You actually have to like stomp on some skulls sometimes to like enforce laws.

00:19:23.820 And it's like, I'm not trying to be like a bootlicker, but it's like there has to be law

00:19:28.320 and order and I think women have this idealism where it's like, but people are nice at the

00:19:33.540 end of the day.

00:19:34.460 People are nice.

00:19:34.960 So if we give them freedom and we just let them live, it's like that is true in a sense.

00:19:39.720 But then there's also maniacs like the guy walking around punching people in the face.

00:19:42.740 Like, are we just going to let that guy go?

00:19:44.720 Go and it's like, they think that if they just like, and I do believe in like, oh, I

00:19:50.720 can't think of the word right now.

00:19:51.560 Instead of like, like rehabilitation, but it's like, are we actually rehabilitating people

00:19:56.160 or are we just locking them in a cage and then hoping that they get better somehow?

00:20:00.040 They're not even staying in those cages.

00:20:01.160 They're being like released from prison.

00:20:02.560 Exactly.

00:20:02.960 That's the thing.

00:20:03.460 Like there's no bail thing.

00:20:04.820 It's like, we're doing that in Canada as well.

00:20:06.940 And it's like, is that how, how is they, they think that's a nice thing to do, but it's

00:20:11.040 not really rehabilitation.

00:20:11.980 It's just like unlocking the door, hoping for the best.

00:20:14.560 And I think women have this like nice, like it's nice.

00:20:17.180 Women are nice, right?

00:20:19.100 Like we want it, we want things to be, exactly.

00:20:21.040 We are agreeable.

00:20:22.040 We want things to be nice and safe, but it's like, that's not how the world works, girl.

00:20:25.620 So it was part of it that women and maybe some, you know, Democrat or left, left-leaning

00:20:30.440 men unable to see the long-term consequences of the policies that they're voting for.

00:20:34.480 Are they short-term thinkers?

00:20:35.780 Yeah.

00:20:35.960 I think a lot of people are in general.

00:20:38.020 Yeah.

00:20:38.400 I think a lot of people aren't informed in general, women and men.

00:20:41.280 There's so much noise, like in, in Canada, like our media is state sponsored.

00:20:45.140 So like we, it, like everything is a lie unless you're, you're smart enough to go read the

00:20:50.120 publica or Redux, you know, nobody has any idea because everything is just CBC.

00:20:54.340 We love Trudeau.

00:20:55.320 Get your COVID booster.

00:20:56.840 It's, it's propaganda.

00:20:58.580 It's overwhelming too.

00:21:00.060 Especially with that Facebook, what's it?

00:21:02.420 The Facebook thing where like, you can't see the news in Canada.

00:21:04.900 Oh yeah.

00:21:05.940 Yeah.

00:21:06.600 Like we, I literally still can't see some news on Instagram.

00:21:09.640 I think that it's going to be reversed, but like, well, okay, I guess it's just CBC for

00:21:13.740 me, you know?

00:21:14.460 But, but isn't Trudeau a hunk?

00:21:17.240 I thought you guys loved him.

00:21:18.520 Yeah.

00:21:18.880 I thought women, he did, he did that, that yoga pose thing.

00:21:21.480 Remember he did it for me.

00:21:23.120 For sure.

00:21:23.620 You know, all the women got hot and bothered.

00:21:24.940 I mean, if you're into gay dudes, maybe.

00:21:28.840 I guess some women are.

00:21:29.900 Yeah.

00:21:30.720 I think a lot of people, men too, vote for like, isn't that the saying like, who would

00:21:35.200 you rather have a beer with?

00:21:36.760 Like people vote with their emotions all the time.

00:21:38.560 And Canadians want to have a beer with Justin Trudeau, just to be clear.

00:21:41.080 Maybe smoke a doobie.

00:21:42.200 Yeah.

00:21:42.500 Yeah.

00:21:42.960 Maybe do a yoga class or something.

00:21:44.520 But it, it is not just women who vote with like, who's a cool, who seems cool and charming?

00:21:49.320 Like I hear men all the time say, oh, I don't have a beer with him.

00:21:52.060 Or he seems like, even, even Joe Rogan still to this day talks about Obama.

00:21:55.980 Like, well, he was a great orator and a statesman.

00:21:58.580 It's like, hey, but he dropped more bombs on civilians than any other living president.

00:22:02.240 Gave himself a Nobel Prize for it.

00:22:04.160 Like, I mean, that's what people said about Bill Clinton too, right?

00:22:06.100 No, he got, he got a prize for nothing.

00:22:07.680 Yeah.

00:22:08.620 Yeah.

00:22:08.980 That was weird.

00:22:09.500 He just got a prize for being him.

00:22:11.000 He did.

00:22:11.300 Yeah.

00:22:12.060 Actually.

00:22:12.660 Being a cool guy.

00:22:13.480 The ultimate participation ribbon.

00:22:14.740 But to be fair, he does have one tremendous accolade.

00:22:17.060 He has the world record for most children killed in extrajudicial assassinations by a Nobel Peace

00:22:23.460 Prize winner.

00:22:24.280 Wow.

00:22:25.260 Yeah.

00:22:25.640 It's very impressive.

00:22:26.480 I mean, I'm laughing, but it's really sad.

00:22:28.600 Like, it's, it's funny from here, but.

00:22:31.800 George W. Bush was Hitler.

00:22:33.800 Yeah.

00:22:34.160 And then Barack Obama, everything was fine.

00:22:35.880 Yeah.

00:22:36.040 And I remember during the Bush years, the rage and the protests and the signs of Bush as

00:22:41.340 Hitler and all this stuff.

00:22:42.660 And then I'm like, oh, wow.

00:22:44.260 Yeah.

00:22:44.560 The war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

00:22:46.120 What a disaster.

00:22:47.380 And then Obama wins.

00:22:49.440 And then I immediately run to my friends and I'm like, hey guys, like Obama just bombed

00:22:53.120 some kids.

00:22:53.580 And they were like, what?

00:22:54.580 So what?

00:22:55.200 So smooth though.

00:22:56.560 No, they're just like, I don't care.

00:22:57.420 Yeah.

00:22:57.820 Like that's, that was last year.

00:22:59.000 We're done.

00:22:59.380 And I'm like, what do you mean you're done?

00:23:00.780 Like the attention span runs out.

00:23:02.280 Yeah.

00:23:02.380 No, it's just like, we won.

00:23:03.340 What do you mean?

00:23:03.800 It's like, no, we didn't.

00:23:04.680 He's doing the same thing.

00:23:05.340 It's worse.

00:23:05.720 And they're like, oh, but we don't care about that.

00:23:06.920 We never did.

00:23:07.400 The kids in cages thing with AOC crying at that fence.

00:23:11.080 And then it's like, there's a parking lot.

00:23:12.220 Yeah.

00:23:12.520 At the parking lot.

00:23:13.020 And there's like literally more people in those cages today than there were under Trump.

00:23:18.120 But it's like, well, who cares?

00:23:20.320 Biden's in.

00:23:20.920 Biden's good.

00:23:21.940 Trump is bad.

00:23:22.620 Therefore, who cares about the kids in cages anymore?

00:23:25.440 I think I, I think I just retweeted something that someone posted about, about this.

00:23:30.780 Let me see if I can find it.

00:23:31.920 So does this mean that long-term, like if women are looking to be collective and they're

00:23:38.900 short-term thinkers, that the party just has to message for right now?

00:23:43.700 Like when, who decides that they're going to move past, oh, I just want to be with this

00:23:47.780 team or whatever else.

00:23:48.700 Why do we get people who break away from that mentality?

00:23:50.960 Well, I think the issue right now, I think it's, obviously this is a new issue, but we're

00:23:55.960 chronically online.

00:23:56.820 I feel like all of us are chronically online and maybe other people aren't.

00:23:59.740 But just like when you're a woman and you're online and you're seeing all this like rhetoric

00:24:03.580 about hating women and stuff like that, and you have the rise of like red pillars, like

00:24:07.560 Andrew Tate, like he's, he's actually reaching young boys.

00:24:10.440 Like I didn't realize this, but he actually has influence.

00:24:13.200 Apparently.

00:24:13.800 I think that like, everyone's always so upset with women about voting Democrat and because

00:24:18.700 we're so emotional, but no one's trying to appeal to our emotions.

00:24:21.260 It's like then appeal to my emotions.

00:24:23.760 People.

00:24:24.540 So I think one of the mistakes too, especially with like the Andrew Tate stuff, they don't understand

00:24:28.840 him.

00:24:29.380 And so the older generation is getting this media lens of what Andrew Tate is.

00:24:34.120 And then if you actually watch his content, you're like, oh, okay.

00:24:36.400 Like he's actually a really funny guy.

00:24:38.020 So for instance, one video we had was, he's like, I just, I just bought 10 more Bugattis

00:24:43.760 because when you're like me, you're going to have money.

00:24:45.880 And then the camera pans down, he's on a scooter.

00:24:47.920 And then he starts scooting away and he's this like ripped, you know, kickboxer riding.

00:24:52.560 It's, it's, it's, it's like a, it's like a gag.

00:24:54.620 It's, it's, it's a tyracle.

00:24:55.560 And then I wonder, like, you know, he has that post the other day where he's like, if

00:24:59.180 you don't have at least five kids by 40, you're gay.

00:25:01.800 I don't think he's serious.

00:25:03.360 I think he's baiting.

00:25:04.460 And I think, I think he, it puts his name in the press.

00:25:07.360 I think he's making a bigger point.

00:25:09.780 The point he's been making is, you know, he said something like white men won't have

00:25:14.620 babies because they can't control their women and stuff.

00:25:17.060 I feel like he's intentionally saying things over the top.

00:25:20.040 I think a lot of people do that.

00:25:21.320 Oh, for sure.

00:25:22.020 Regardless, he's still influencing people.

00:25:23.860 And I think that's why we took issue with your tweet about women being punched in New

00:25:27.780 York, because, because you have a huge following, you're influential and, and whether you like

00:25:32.960 it or not, people listen to you.

00:25:34.480 And I think it's a little scary.

00:25:36.040 Like we read a lot of the comments and it was just jarring.

00:25:38.020 Cause it's like people, like you were joking perhaps, but people actually think this and

00:25:42.100 believe that this is funny.

00:25:43.180 Yeah, I know.

00:25:43.860 But look, like I was sitting here and I was scrolling through the news.

00:25:48.780 And it's like some woman posted a video and she's like, she's, she's just like, I was

00:25:54.980 walking down the street and a guy punched me in the face.

00:25:56.380 How could this have possibly happened?

00:25:57.440 And I laughed.

00:25:58.320 And then I was just like, how could this have possibly happened?

00:26:00.700 Like, what's going on?

00:26:01.540 And then I saw more and I was like, it's, it's ironic.

00:26:05.520 It's, it's decades of your, of these voting patterns of these women who virtue signal and

00:26:10.200 make these videos.

00:26:11.560 It is, but, but it's, it's like the bad guys who don't care about women and are trying

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00:27:51.120 Being punched in the face.

00:27:54.620 So these women are angrily often posting about, you know, Donald Trump is bad.

00:28:03.180 We should do this.

00:28:03.680 We should do that.

00:28:04.120 And then things get worse and worse and worse.

00:28:06.100 And it's like, for me, I'm 38.

00:28:10.020 And I'm like, man, I remember when I was 24 and we were talking about the problems of crime

00:28:15.700 against women.

00:28:17.200 And now there are still women after all of this time, they don't care.

00:28:23.000 I mean, Megan Rapinoe, this is the question I have on all this.

00:28:27.680 Megan Rapinoe coming out and saying males should be allowed to compete in female sports.

00:28:31.620 And I'm like, but she...

00:28:33.400 She's out of a job.

00:28:34.640 She's already out of a job.

00:28:35.680 I know.

00:28:35.920 Yeah.

00:28:36.060 I'm like, or Katie Hobbs vetoing the bill that would keep males out of female sports.

00:28:40.840 I'm like, why do women vote against themselves?

00:28:43.620 I don't...

00:28:44.300 And this is what...

00:28:45.440 This is part of where the irony and the humor comes from.

00:28:48.500 I don't like that women are getting punched in the face.

00:28:50.180 I think it's a bad thing.

00:28:50.800 It shouldn't be happening.

00:28:51.480 But I'm like, at a certain point, I just watch it and I'm like, you know, why do women continually

00:28:57.840 vote against themselves?

00:28:59.660 And I get that men are voting against women too, but like, duh, there are a lot of bad

00:29:03.760 guys out there.

00:29:04.500 They're misogynists.

00:29:05.360 They want to exploit women or they're just...

00:29:07.320 There's nasty guys.

00:29:08.560 But like the millennial and younger generation of women overwhelmingly vote against themselves.

00:29:15.320 I just don't understand.

00:29:16.240 No, I totally see where you're coming from.

00:29:18.220 And I think what we had issue with is we understood that and you had context for it, but a lot of

00:29:23.040 people are stupid and they just see the words.

00:29:25.620 I think it's funny that women are getting punched in the face in New York and they're

00:29:27.960 just like, yeah, that is funny.

00:29:29.360 And they don't understand this greater picture that you're painting or that you understand

00:29:33.620 in your mind.

00:29:34.840 And I also think women are going to be the victims of these things more than like the

00:29:38.320 guys who have bad intentions and they vote.

00:29:40.360 Like they're not going to be the victims of these crimes, but women are.

00:29:43.220 And I totally understand like why...

00:29:44.780 Well, I don't really know why.

00:29:46.240 Women are voting against our best interests.

00:29:48.620 It doesn't make sense to me as a woman who has only ever voted conservative.

00:29:52.120 But it does make sense sort of because like I said before, I think women feel like they

00:29:56.020 don't have a place in conservative politics because it is kind of a boy's club.

00:29:59.980 And when you...

00:30:00.640 Then when you're online and you see someone say, oh yeah, punch them, LOL.

00:30:05.500 Is that how you feel?

00:30:06.120 Because you said you're conservative.

00:30:07.140 Like you feel like you don't have a place in conservative politics.

00:30:09.600 I feel like this year has been tricky to navigate as a conservative because I still identify

00:30:14.460 with those policies and with those values.

00:30:19.160 But I feel like everyone, everything online just is so much vitriol and hate against women.

00:30:24.500 It's just shocking.

00:30:25.560 I'm like, wait, I thought we were on the same team and like a house that's divided will not

00:30:28.620 stand.

00:30:28.920 Right.

00:30:29.240 Like, so it's just, I feel like, I don't know.

00:30:31.280 It's almost like it's a PSYOP to divide conservatives or something.

00:30:34.960 Maybe, but I just want to say like, there is a major industry right now in just hating

00:30:40.140 women.

00:30:41.040 Exactly.

00:30:41.660 You're like...

00:30:42.460 It's lucrative.

00:30:43.160 You can make a lot of money doing it.

00:30:44.220 Especially on Twitter or X now.

00:30:46.140 Yeah.

00:30:46.560 But the other thing is like women, like we're talking about these women in New York, as

00:30:50.100 far as I can tell from the reporting, none of them are carrying pepper spray.

00:30:53.580 None of them are carrying a gun.

00:30:54.940 That's illegal.

00:30:56.040 Fine.

00:30:56.520 But like, there are choosing to live in a place where they also don't have a way to

00:31:00.780 defend themselves.

00:31:01.500 Like at a certain point, in addition to the way they vote, in addition to the way they

00:31:04.720 choose to live, it is sort of laughable that they would be shocked that they are victims

00:31:10.080 of violence when they put themselves in dangerous situations.

00:31:12.480 And there's another component to it too.

00:31:14.580 Like, you know, we're in West Virginia and someone, someone messaged me and they're like,

00:31:18.380 yeah, should I go punch your mom or your sister?

00:31:20.580 I'm like, oh, they'd shoot you.

00:31:22.080 I don't know.

00:31:23.180 What was your point?

00:31:24.020 What are the gun laws here?

00:31:25.180 Constitutional carry.

00:31:25.960 Okay.

00:31:26.460 So if there-

00:31:28.000 But could that ever change?

00:31:28.840 Because this is a purple state, Virginia, right?

00:31:31.520 Well, West Virginia is red.

00:31:33.120 Okay.

00:31:33.420 Yeah.

00:31:33.920 86% Trump supporting.

00:31:35.460 Okay.

00:31:35.800 Okay.

00:31:36.420 It's purple, sort of, because you have people like Manchin and Justice who are-

00:31:40.800 They're old school Democrats, so it's very different.

00:31:42.740 And Manchin's done in West Virginia, but it's constitutional carry.

00:31:48.000 So if a woman was walking down the street and a guy started walking up to her, she's just

00:31:52.540 going to pull her shirt back and put her hand in a gun and be like, can I help you?

00:31:55.280 Right.

00:31:55.600 But what about someone like Nat and I?

00:31:57.120 Like, we both have our gun licenses in Canada and we can't carry our-

00:32:01.540 We can't even defend ourselves.

00:32:03.740 Yeah.

00:32:04.200 You live in a communist country.

00:32:05.580 And I've only ever voted conservative my whole life.

00:32:08.500 Yeah.

00:32:08.700 Same.

00:32:09.100 Do I deserve to get punched too?

00:32:11.020 Because I live in a place that can be dangerous and I can't have a gun on my hip.

00:32:15.680 Well, especially because in Canada, it's not-

00:32:17.580 Like, we live in Toronto, near Toronto.

00:32:19.280 There's nowhere better.

00:32:20.280 Like, it's just as expensive no matter where you go.

00:32:22.500 Everyone's liberal, even in the country.

00:32:24.420 Like, it doesn't-

00:32:25.080 There's no safe space for, like, a woman to go out and just feel completely safe and not

00:32:29.920 risk being punched by some homeless person or crazy person.

00:32:32.440 But then why did you vote for this government?

00:32:33.800 I mean, you guys didn't.

00:32:34.520 You're so young.

00:32:35.060 But, like, why is this the way Canada trended?

00:32:38.360 That's the-

00:32:38.960 That's a tough question.

00:32:39.820 Like, all the women in my life outside of Nat-

00:32:42.300 Conservative?

00:32:42.600 Are all liberal.

00:32:43.320 Oh, yummy.

00:32:43.580 Every single one of them.

00:32:44.680 Well, yeah, different groups.

00:32:45.900 Yeah.

00:32:46.000 But, like, my friends are like, oh, you listen to Jordan Peterson?

00:32:49.440 Isn't he a Nazi?

00:32:50.420 Like, that is the level of ignorance that we're talking about.

00:32:53.200 So, I'm-

00:32:54.080 Like, they like me still somehow, but I'm like, it's the-

00:32:57.560 The gap is so wide between us.

00:32:59.860 But it's like, we've lived in the same place.

00:33:01.200 We've had the same experiences.

00:33:02.440 I don't know, other than my theory that I heard from that guy on Twitter about, like,

00:33:07.540 we live in this safe, protected society and we don't really-

00:33:10.460 We take it for granted.

00:33:11.560 Outside of that, I really don't know why women always vote outside of our favor-

00:33:16.120 Well, I think Trudeau won because people wanted weed legalized.

00:33:20.000 That is-

00:33:20.180 Like, I 100% believe that is why he won.

00:33:22.340 Yeah, true.

00:33:22.660 Yeah.

00:33:22.880 And the name.

00:33:23.660 People are, like, again, it's like another-

00:33:25.800 He has a historic legacy.

00:33:26.660 Yeah, he's a legacy.

00:33:27.420 I think it was the striking resemblance to Fidel Castro that really pushed Canadians.

00:33:31.700 A hundred percent, yeah.

00:33:32.960 It's weird that he looks so much like him, though.

00:33:34.980 Oh, my God.

00:33:35.520 It's just not related, obviously.

00:33:37.920 It's just such a weird coincidence.

00:33:39.040 I don't know what you guys are applying.

00:33:40.500 Their family seems super normal.

00:33:42.060 Yeah.

00:33:42.260 You guys can go live in the snow up north, can't you?

00:33:44.540 Yeah, but even in northern towns, there are still people wearing masks and with their Ukraine

00:33:48.700 flags.

00:33:49.120 Like, it's not better.

00:33:49.760 And I'm still paying the same amount, plus I need a car.

00:33:51.900 Ukraine?

00:33:52.740 Is Canada funding Ukraine war?

00:33:54.920 Yeah.

00:33:56.600 You can't go to a church without seeing a pride flag outside of it in Canada.

00:34:00.660 There was a funny meme I saw a long time ago, and it was, like, the Canadian Royal Military,

00:34:06.140 whatever it's called.

00:34:06.780 The Mounted Police?

00:34:07.540 RCMP.

00:34:08.260 No, the military.

00:34:09.160 Oh, the military.

00:34:09.860 Sorry.

00:34:11.320 Joining, what was, Enduring Freedom, Iraq, and it was one soldier in a kayak paddling.

00:34:18.300 Like, that's what Canada has.

00:34:19.860 Yeah, at one point we had, like, one helicopter, and then it broke.

00:34:23.040 We're like, oh, our helicopter broke.

00:34:24.800 And it's so sad, because during the Second World War, we had one of the best air forces

00:34:28.160 in the world.

00:34:28.760 Like, we were a huge part of that war, and now we're a laughingstock in terms of military

00:34:35.140 strength in the world.

00:34:36.060 It's really sad.

00:34:36.860 Don't you wish that we won the War of 1812?

00:34:41.320 I don't know.

00:34:42.380 That's when...

00:34:43.360 Is that America and Canada?

00:34:44.700 Yep.

00:34:45.040 Oh, okay.

00:34:45.440 So, Canada was actually...

00:34:47.160 So, we won that?

00:34:49.540 I don't know anything about this war.

00:34:51.160 Me either.

00:34:51.860 Clearly.

00:34:52.580 There were 13 U.S. colonies, but there were way more British colonies.

00:34:56.780 And the founding fathers went to Quebec, and they were like, would you want to join the

00:35:02.080 revolution?

00:35:02.480 They said, no.

00:35:03.100 Right.

00:35:03.380 So, to answer your question, you're like, and now you have to.

00:35:05.900 And so, then in 1812, when the U.S. went to war with Britain again, the U.S., I believe

00:35:11.900 they almost took Montreal.

00:35:14.080 And then, while we were trying to take Canada, the British came and burned down the White House.

00:35:19.860 So, you know, it's like, if we...

00:35:21.140 And then we were like, okay, maybe, you know.

00:35:22.480 No.

00:35:22.940 To answer your question, yes, I do then wish.

00:35:25.280 Being a British colony.

00:35:27.320 Would we be welcomed as liberators?

00:35:29.480 For me?

00:35:29.940 You can come now, please.

00:35:30.940 Yes, absolutely.

00:35:32.320 I joke about this all the time, but the Canadian dream is moving to America.

00:35:35.500 Yeah.

00:35:35.820 Like, I would give anything to move here.

00:35:38.320 I think that's true, but also...

00:35:40.140 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:35:41.380 So, just do it.

00:35:42.900 How?

00:35:43.640 It's so difficult.

00:35:44.580 You go to the southern border.

00:35:46.040 Yeah.

00:35:46.420 No, no, no, no.

00:35:46.880 We talked about that.

00:35:48.120 Like, get a debit card.

00:35:49.360 Get a debit card and a mortgage.

00:35:50.840 That'd be great.

00:35:51.600 Well, right.

00:35:52.440 Exactly.

00:35:52.920 Yeah.

00:35:53.180 So, you'll get a luxury hotel in New York City.

00:35:55.300 Yeah.

00:35:55.980 Love that.

00:35:57.040 I get...

00:35:57.520 Like, here's the crazy thing is people are actually doing that.

00:36:00.100 They're flying to...

00:36:01.580 You can fly to the border.

00:36:03.260 What, like, Juarez?

00:36:04.080 Is that on the border?

00:36:04.680 Or, like, Mexicali and Calexico?

00:36:07.640 And then you just walk in.

00:36:09.760 And they go...

00:36:11.360 And people fly to Canada and cross the northern border, too.

00:36:14.340 In Quebec, yeah.

00:36:15.740 But there was a picture online, and it's two yellow posts with a chain across it, and it

00:36:21.140 says U.S.-Canadian border.

00:36:23.080 Do not cross.

00:36:24.000 And there's two parking lots.

00:36:25.340 And, like, a strip of just, like, mulch.

00:36:27.220 And one side's apartments and the other side's apartments.

00:36:29.240 And it's like, yeah, it says do not cross.

00:36:30.340 You know, I used to live in British Columbia.

00:36:33.000 That's where I'm from.

00:36:33.940 And we used to live on the border.

00:36:36.160 And it's...

00:36:37.020 It was, like, in a little farming area.

00:36:38.920 And I'd go for runs there.

00:36:41.220 And you could literally just run across the field.

00:36:43.860 There's nothing.

00:36:44.780 There's nothing.

00:36:45.360 It's just...

00:36:45.580 Do they get mad?

00:36:46.480 That's easy to just walk across an invisible line.

00:36:49.100 But, like, what am I supposed to do?

00:36:50.620 How do I get car insurance or health insurance or, like, a credit card?

00:36:54.520 Of the thought that, like, it is good to have national pride and want to be with your

00:36:57.940 country.

00:36:58.160 Like, I'm Canadian.

00:36:59.020 My family's all from Newfoundland.

00:37:00.520 And my aunt lives in British Columbia now.

00:37:02.700 That's cool, eh?

00:37:03.440 Yeah.

00:37:03.840 It's super fun.

00:37:04.580 Except I'm never moving there because you guys are not doing a great job.

00:37:07.860 Not you guys, personally.

00:37:09.080 You're more than gay and two, right?

00:37:10.460 Aren't you, like, four?

00:37:11.440 No, I'm three.

00:37:12.160 So I'm a British citizen, a U.S. citizen, and Canadian citizen.

00:37:15.460 But because my parents immigrated here and they were able to apply for citizenship because

00:37:20.120 at the time they were like, well, you're here.

00:37:22.380 We have green cards, but also we don't know if we're ever going to need to, like, move

00:37:24.900 back to family or whatever.

00:37:26.740 So part of my complaint, though, having, you know, similar experience to you, which is

00:37:32.060 that I have lots of, you know, Canadian relatives who are all liberal, which is that

00:37:36.260 they look down on America.

00:37:37.960 When they talk about Donald Trump, they're like, he's just so ridiculous and whatever

00:37:41.880 else.

00:37:42.620 Meanwhile, you guys have mass immigration.

00:37:45.020 There's high crime in Canada.

00:37:46.380 Like, Canada is not a utopia to look down upon.

00:37:48.560 And in fact, I think under Donald Trump, we're doing a lot better than Canada.

00:37:52.180 At the same time, they're still able to maintain this cognitive distance.

00:37:55.040 And I almost feel like it's more intense among women.

00:37:57.540 Is that because women lie to themselves?

00:37:59.500 Like, what's going on?

00:38:00.720 I find it with both, though.

00:38:02.000 Like, I know people in my life, men, older, like, boomer men, who are just like, oh, that,

00:38:06.300 like, America sucks.

00:38:07.420 And like, they're just rude.

00:38:09.520 And Donald Trump is...

00:38:10.600 I sat next to a boomer at a dinner party once.

00:38:13.280 And he told me, anyone who voted for Donald Trump is mentally retarded.

00:38:16.480 Those were his words.

00:38:17.540 And I'm like, I didn't vote because I'm not American.

00:38:20.320 But I'm just like, I just have to keep my mouth shut.

00:38:23.520 Like, I had an email at a big company I worked for.

00:38:26.760 And they said, like, no, don't talk politics.

00:38:28.840 Don't talk religion, like, in the workplace.

00:38:30.840 But everyone was sending, like, Donald Trump, Orange Man, bad memes around all day.

00:38:35.900 But it's like, that's fine.

00:38:36.760 It's just fine to have this culture where it's like, Americans are stupid.

00:38:40.060 Donald Trump is stupid.

00:38:40.940 But it's like, can I speak up?

00:38:43.220 Or am I going to get, like, slapped in the face?

00:38:44.960 Like, it's such a weird thing.

00:38:46.480 I was even in an Uber the other day.

00:38:48.540 I rarely take Ubers.

00:38:49.720 But I was in an Uber.

00:38:50.840 And I was talking with my Uber driver because I'm a chatty gal.

00:38:54.300 And he was talking to me about politics.

00:38:57.020 And I was like, oh, he's kind of based.

00:38:58.260 Yeah.

00:38:58.380 And then I was like, yeah, I would really love to move to the United States.

00:39:01.280 And he was like, oh, my gosh.

00:39:02.380 Why would you want to do that?

00:39:03.260 I was like, well, because they have civil liberties there that we don't have.

00:39:05.940 He's like, but what about, he was like, but what about abortion?

00:39:08.940 I was like, excuse me?

00:39:11.080 Like, I was sitting there with my husband.

00:39:13.400 Like, what do you mean?

00:39:14.500 What I was here is health care.

00:39:15.860 Right.

00:39:16.380 America's health care is so bad.

00:39:17.500 But, like, I have known from relatives that they've had to wait six months for really critical MRIs before.

00:39:23.620 I mean, Canada says they have it better, but I don't think they do.

00:39:26.800 Well, there's a, I feel like this is like a common trope that Canada doesn't have access to certain treatments.

00:39:32.900 The U.S. does.

00:39:33.700 So, sure, you can wait in line.

00:39:35.760 Stem cell.

00:39:36.420 But you're not going to get it at all.

00:39:37.500 Yeah.

00:39:37.900 And then you go to the United States.

00:39:39.080 And what a lot of these lefty Americans understand is they're like, why is my medical bill $40,000 if I was in Canada?

00:39:45.300 Yeah.

00:39:45.420 If you're in Canada, they didn't have it at all.

00:39:46.680 Well, they'd actually suggest you just go get medical assistance in dying.

00:39:50.460 Yeah.

00:39:50.800 That's the alternative.

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00:41:26.460 Yeah.

00:41:27.000 Did you see that story where it's like a...

00:41:28.240 The suicide pod?

00:41:28.780 Yeah.

00:41:29.100 Yeah.

00:41:29.480 What the...

00:41:29.740 And the woman's like, eh.

00:41:31.140 She's like, this is...

00:41:32.080 Like, hey, loose girl.

00:41:33.520 You do it yourself.

00:41:34.560 You press the button.

00:41:35.220 What is wrong with your country?

00:41:37.960 I don't know.

00:41:38.620 To be fair, our country has like a moderate resistance to it, but the same things are happening.

00:41:44.220 Do you think anything has to do with the fact that America has more of a religious presence than Canada does?

00:41:48.940 I feel like Canada is much more secular.

00:41:50.800 I think this is God's country, as Blake Shelton would say.

00:41:53.500 Yeah.

00:41:53.740 Yeah.

00:41:54.120 There's also...

00:41:54.840 I heard Tucker Carlson speak once at an event and he was talking about how like historically colder climates are more collective because like back in the day, if you were outside of the community, you starve and die and freeze to death.

00:42:07.280 But yeah, so it's like you kind of have to take on more of a collective attitude because you're like, I need to survive.

00:42:11.860 I need to trade my cheese and my guns or whatever.

00:42:14.740 So it's like, we live in the southernmost part of Canada.

00:42:19.100 So we don't...

00:42:19.740 It's like, what's the problem?

00:42:20.680 It's very balmy for like half the year there.

00:42:22.700 But most of Canada is not in that balmy area.

00:42:26.520 So you will freeze to death.

00:42:27.820 If you don't get along with your neighbor, you might actually die.

00:42:30.420 So communists like cold weather?

00:42:32.020 Well, we don't like it.

00:42:33.060 They thrive in cold weather.

00:42:34.140 You have to be communist to survive.

00:42:36.000 Yeah, she's a communist.

00:42:37.680 She's a communist.

00:42:38.360 Oh, okay.

00:42:38.740 I'm staunch.

00:42:39.500 Oh, yeah.

00:42:40.040 He said we.

00:42:41.040 Not me.

00:42:42.160 Yikes, I've outed myself.

00:42:43.100 Well, my family, my mother's side of the family are literal card carrying communists.

00:42:48.540 Like they're from like Europe and they were communists.

00:42:51.340 Oh, so then they're probably very opposed to it.

00:42:53.440 No.

00:42:53.740 No, they like it.

00:42:54.420 No, my...

00:42:55.020 Like they're like, yeah, like my mom thinks that I'm a monster for like my views.

00:42:58.960 Like she loves me, but she's like, where did I go wrong?

00:43:01.980 Like why don't you both...

00:43:02.580 Where did she go wrong?

00:43:03.600 What happened?

00:43:04.080 Uh, well, my parents are divorced.

00:43:05.800 So my dad is conservative and Christian and like it just, I went that way.

00:43:09.620 And she's like, it's like my kids being trans.

00:43:12.860 Like it's like she feels so betrayed by my ideology.

00:43:16.180 So I have the tweet that I was talking about earlier.

00:43:18.300 It's an Emory University economics professor, Carolyn Follin, being arrested.

00:43:23.240 And boy, are they arresting her.

00:43:25.100 Uh, let's...

00:43:26.380 Here you go.

00:43:26.820 Here's the video.

00:43:27.360 She's resisting arrest.

00:43:34.500 Fighting with the cop.

00:43:35.420 Oh my God!

00:43:36.140 Oh my God!

00:43:38.080 Oh my God!

00:43:39.360 Give me some cops!

00:43:40.240 You're going to steal your f***ing ass.

00:43:41.960 My head!

00:43:42.620 You caught your head!

00:43:43.420 What's the dress for my head?

00:43:45.040 I can't breathe!

00:43:46.760 She said, I can't breathe.

00:43:48.260 Oh my God!

00:43:48.860 Okay, George.

00:43:49.360 So, uh, I really feel like, uh, this is the first time she has ever experienced consequences.

00:43:57.680 She's like, growing up in Chicago, the cop walks up to you and they say, put your hands

00:44:03.900 behind your back.

00:44:04.620 You put your hands behind your back.

00:44:05.960 You accomplish nothing fighting with a cop.

00:44:08.200 No.

00:44:08.580 You're not going to win a lawsuit.

00:44:09.860 You're not going to win legally.

00:44:11.000 You just say, okay, am I being detained?

00:44:14.260 You learn how to deal with this stuff.

00:44:15.520 This is like, this, this professor has never experienced this before.

00:44:20.720 She's screaming like, as if she's not going to be held to account for what she's doing.

00:44:25.720 And, uh, this guy, Jacob Schell said, four years of academics fearing Trump would do this

00:44:29.220 to us.

00:44:29.660 Instead, it's the president we voted for doing it.

00:44:32.160 I'm assuming this person is like a liberal or whatever, but I thought it was interesting

00:44:35.360 that, yeah, Trump didn't deploy the national guard or the army against these protesters

00:44:39.780 and they just ran amok.

00:44:41.240 And now under Joe Biden, you have this, I mean, they are really going after these

00:44:46.800 protesters.

00:44:46.960 What did she do?

00:44:47.780 Exactly.

00:44:48.140 This lady?

00:44:48.620 I think it's a pro-Palestine protest, right?

00:44:50.560 Yeah.

00:44:50.820 So they're just trying to like clear the area.

00:44:53.120 Don't know for sure in the context of this video, but, uh, I mean, what did she think?

00:44:57.480 Like I, I laughed at first and then it was like, ow, but also it's like, what do you

00:45:01.240 think is going to happen?

00:45:02.360 Like you said, like a cop says like you're under arrest.

00:45:04.760 It's like, okay, well, I'm going to comply with that.

00:45:07.380 Like, why would you fight someone with a gun?

00:45:09.760 But it's especially because we don't have them, right?

00:45:12.600 Like, so this, the, uh, the context here, you have another post of a woman, Noelle McAfee,

00:45:19.260 chair of philosophy at Emory being arrested.

00:45:21.060 And she seems to be, uh, calmly just walking.

00:45:23.780 I can do for you right now.

00:45:25.280 Can you call the philosophy department office and tell them I've been arrested?

00:45:30.180 And that's it.

00:45:31.000 Yeah.

00:45:32.000 This woman appears to understand how it goes when you're an activist and you get

00:45:35.380 arrested.

00:45:35.700 The other woman is like, she's shocked.

00:45:38.040 What, what is happening?

00:45:39.440 Oh, heaven's me.

00:45:40.620 And then she says, I can't breathe.

00:45:41.940 Like you're going to be the next George Floyd.

00:45:43.320 Like maybe that's why she would do it because she thinks like, oh, maybe this will create

00:45:47.820 social change.

00:45:48.740 Like if they see an old woman get her face bashed in, but it's like, well, why are you

00:45:52.820 fighting them?

00:45:53.320 I think it's female privilege.

00:45:54.060 I think she thought I'm an older woman and there's no way cops would do this to me.

00:45:57.660 Right.

00:45:57.840 I mean, I think she is expecting, despite the fact that she probably identifies as a feminist,

00:46:01.700 she is expecting the world to actually adhere to the, uh, to the privileges that Western

00:46:07.720 cultures and especially more traditional cultures afford women.

00:46:10.500 Yeah.

00:46:10.900 Uh, and I think that's kind of the lunacy of a lot of feminism.

00:46:13.960 That's, that's how they're often able to say like, oh, but I'm a girl, so we can't do

00:46:18.540 this.

00:46:18.760 But also you should treat me equally and we should have all those same privileges.

00:46:21.340 Totally.

00:46:21.640 Have, have, have y'all ever seen those, uh, reality shows where they put men and women

00:46:25.840 on different islands?

00:46:27.340 There's been a couple of them.

00:46:29.040 They get, they get millions of views.

00:46:31.320 So, uh, there's one where it's like, okay, we're going to take 20 women and 20 men.

00:46:35.540 You each are going to be dropped on an Island.

00:46:37.340 Good luck.

00:46:38.520 And the women walk around in circles, start crying when they realize they're walking in

00:46:43.120 circles, have no food, have no shelter, start fighting.

00:46:45.920 And then the men have like tiki bars and they're making coconut drinks.

00:46:50.940 And it's like different skills.

00:46:52.380 Okay.

00:46:53.100 Well, my, my question is, do you think these are real?

00:46:55.820 Like, or are the producers saying like, people are going to love to watch this.

00:46:59.620 The women will fail and then we'll get ratings.

00:47:01.340 Or is the reason there's like, there's like three of these videos.

00:47:04.780 Is it because women organize differently?

00:47:06.940 And well, the one that I can think of is actually, uh, it was, uh, they gave, uh, I

00:47:11.960 think it was like 10 or 12 young children.

00:47:14.080 I think they're all around the age of 11, a house.

00:47:16.620 And so they did all boys the first time.

00:47:18.440 Then they did all girls and the boys, as you can imagine, fifth, first 60 minutes that

00:47:22.800 they're there, they're writing on the walls.

00:47:24.380 Cause they have food, they have whatever.

00:47:25.940 There's an adult who's nearby, but doesn't interact with them.

00:47:28.760 And the boys are an anarchy, right?

00:47:30.340 They're, they're coloring.

00:47:31.320 They're throwing the furniture.

00:47:32.020 Yeah, exactly.

00:47:32.700 Like it's very Lord of the Flies, but it's mostly sort of destructive and they're all kind

00:47:37.400 of in it.

00:47:38.100 Whereas the girls initially they're like making dinner and they're sort of whatever.

00:47:42.180 And then there's like a immediate stratification of the social hierarchy.

00:47:45.980 And the most responsible one is like having a miserable time.

00:47:48.860 She leaves the experiment early.

00:47:50.300 And there's like a clicky girl who's sort of semi-torturing everyone and being loud and

00:47:54.720 disruptive.

00:47:55.560 And the girls dropped, there were more girls from what I remember who dropped out of this

00:47:59.820 experiment than there were boys.

00:48:01.300 And part of it was the social, like they were in tears.

00:48:04.340 They didn't like it.

00:48:05.020 They didn't like being around all these women.

00:48:06.540 Like they can't be, these young girls could not be left to be a social collective, whereas

00:48:11.220 the boys sort of bash their heads against the walls and maybe they would have actually

00:48:14.400 hurt themselves if there weren't cameras.

00:48:16.180 But like it didn't have the same sort of social bomb explosion effect that the other

00:48:21.380 one did.

00:48:21.880 There's like an urban myth.

00:48:23.320 It may be real that men in, in basic training will all fight with each other early on.

00:48:30.560 They'll rib on each other.

00:48:31.560 They'll, you know, bully by the end of it.

00:48:34.160 They're all friends.

00:48:35.000 They're in working order.

00:48:36.100 They know who's good at what.

00:48:37.360 And the women are the other way around.

00:48:38.780 When they first start, they're all really nice to each other.

00:48:40.460 But by the end, they formed cliques and they're all attacking each other.

00:48:42.880 Well, it's just like, it's called The Bachelor.

00:48:45.080 Oh, there you go.

00:48:46.600 That is true.

00:48:47.200 I went to an old girl's school.

00:48:48.160 So like, um, I, I always say, oh, I was never bullied in school, but then you were the

00:48:53.160 bully.

00:48:53.540 You were the bully.

00:48:54.460 I really don't think I was, but, um, she was girls due to each other is mostly just like

00:49:01.380 speaking behind your back, giving you an eating disorder.

00:49:04.080 It's, it's much more emotionally manipulative and destructive.

00:49:07.700 Well, and eating disorder rates, I've read, I'm not totally sure on this, but I have read

00:49:10.360 that actually eating disorders among high school girls who attend all girls schools can be higher

00:49:14.120 than if they attend co-ed.

00:49:15.480 We all had eating disorders.

00:49:16.500 Which people say, oh, it's like, well, they're trying to be skinny and good looking for the

00:49:19.980 boys.

00:49:20.480 No, they're competing against each other.

00:49:22.440 And it's so much worse.

00:49:24.480 Um, I think single sex education is one of the most interesting ways to study the difference

00:49:28.760 between men and women.

00:49:29.800 Uh, part of it is in America, you know, anecdotally, I know from a couple of different admissions

00:49:33.940 officers that boys tend to be more conservative.

00:49:36.440 Generally, they're either not political because they're young or whatever girls line up behind,

00:49:40.520 especially at the time when I was, when I was talking about this, uh, Hillary Clinton,

00:49:43.460 they were all for all in can't be Trump has to be Hillary.

00:49:46.440 They felt this to their core.

00:49:47.400 I worked in an all-girls school at one point and I remember I wasn't there during the election

00:49:51.300 and they remember the teacher telling us, well, we had canceled classes already because we

00:49:54.640 thought we'd be celebrating, but we all had counselors out.

00:49:57.060 Like there was this very strange difference, but at the same time, they say when you separate

00:50:02.620 girls in middle school from boys' peers, they do better in science, everything else.

00:50:06.680 Like the effect of men on women's behavior is documented, whereas men, it's less so, right?

00:50:13.740 They do have maybe as they're going through purity, sort of the competitive sexual aspect

00:50:17.340 of it, but, uh, girls, emotional, political, and psychological behavior changes when men are

00:50:24.620 there. And when they're with women, especially when it comes to eating disorder, it gets worse,

00:50:28.000 which is interesting.

00:50:29.040 You know what I noticed? And this may not be, may not be true or whatever. It's just something

00:50:33.140 I was thinking. Uh, I'm on Instagram and you know, I follow Ryan Long and Danny Palaszczuk.

00:50:38.420 So funny.

00:50:39.260 Yeah. Those guys are great. And, um, because I-

00:50:41.380 Canada's best, you know?

00:50:42.360 Yeah, absolutely.

00:50:43.340 Other than us.

00:50:43.820 Other than us, yeah, they're gems.

00:50:45.020 But so, uh, because I follow them, uh, it sends me other comedians in my, in my, in like

00:50:51.580 the algorithm or whatever. And so, you know, Ryan Long has, and Danny have that famous SJW,

00:50:57.280 like social justice and racist video where they're actually-

00:50:59.300 Yeah, it's so funny. They're the same views.

00:51:01.180 And, uh, typically when I get a male comedian, it sometimes could be about relationships, but

00:51:06.520 it's typically about some issue, like something in life. It could be, what's the deal with airline

00:51:11.200 food, like airline food issues. I would say every single female comedian is talking about

00:51:18.180 having sex with a guy. And so the, for real, it's like, maybe it's just what the algorithm

00:51:23.920 does because guys-

00:51:24.700 Maybe it's because you're a man and they think this will be-

00:51:25.840 Yeah, I was going to say, I don't feel like I see that when I see comedians.

00:51:27.860 Guys, it's because Instagram's like, you're a guy. And so a guy wants a woman to, I can't

00:51:33.100 stand it. I find it annoying. It's not funny. It's like, I get it. You dated a guy, like

00:51:36.020 whatever. And, um, but I, but this, I've mentioned this many other people have mentioned

00:51:41.900 similarly that Amy Schumer, for instance, her comedy was all about like, she had that

00:51:46.780 one bit. She was like, at the end of the day, my underwear looks like I blew my nose

00:51:49.580 in it. It's like, that's what she would do. That's her comedy. That's like her special,

00:51:53.940 very heavily sex oriented. And I'm like, you know, the trope was always that there's, you

00:51:59.460 know, guys only want one thing. It's disgusting. And I think the issue might be, cause we're talking

00:52:03.300 about what the boys do versus what the girls do. I actually think women are probably more

00:52:07.700 focused on sex than men, but when men are with women, it's only sex. You know what I

00:52:12.400 mean? So it's like to, to the female perspective, she meets a guy and the guy's like sex and

00:52:17.000 nothing else, but it's because when the guys are the other guys, he's like football, hockey.

00:52:21.980 Women talk about sex a lot more. True. Like in detail with other women, like they'll give

00:52:26.920 specifics. They'll give inches. And it's too much information. Yeah. And men are like, they

00:52:31.800 do. I mean, not like at our age and we're married and especially younger girls. Yes.

00:52:37.240 There was a great bit I saw and I forget the comedian's name and it was a good family friendly

00:52:42.740 bit. So I forgot. I apologize for friending your name, but he's like, so he's like, I had

00:52:47.020 a friend who, uh, you know, he had been through a divorce and, uh, I had seen him for a little

00:52:51.460 while. And so I told my wife, uh, we're gonna go golfing. And then he's like, uh, so we went

00:52:56.380 out, we golfed, I came back and she says, so how's he doing? And he went, I don't know.

00:53:00.060 Yeah. And she was like, what do you mean you don't know? Is he dating anyone? Is he dating

00:53:04.160 anyone? He's like, I don't know. Is he sad? I know. Did you, did you go out with him?

00:53:08.760 He's like, yeah, we played golf. And she's like, and you don't know how he's doing.

00:53:12.080 It's like, didn't come up. I have these exact conversations with my husband. Like his friend

00:53:16.020 moved across the country and I'm like, so how is he? Get ready for a Las Vegas style action

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00:54:45.960 Like, how's the move? How's the baby? And he's like, I don't know. He's like, he has a baby? He

00:54:49.920 had a baby and moved across the country. He's like, I don't know. We don't talk about that.

00:54:54.180 But I can tell you his opinion on the fall of the Roman Empire.

00:54:56.340 Yeah, exactly. I feel like when men get together, they do activities. So it's like,

00:55:01.160 they're focused on that. Like my husband, he has like a chef friend and they just get together and

00:55:04.820 they cook and I just sit and drink wine and watch. Yeah. So I feel like they don't, they're so fixated

00:55:10.140 on what they're doing. Whereas maybe when all we do is sit together and drink. And shaw. Yeah.

00:55:15.320 Well, we love a Vini. I always cite this book, but men, men are from Mars, women are from Venus.

00:55:20.680 John Gray talks about the fact that men, if they go to lunch, it's typically to like, be like,

00:55:24.200 we're discussing an issue and we're, we're coming up with a solution. Whereas women can go to lunch

00:55:28.180 and just be there. And it's, it's a good skill. I don't think this is bad. We shouldn't bash women

00:55:31.940 for it, but they're like figuring out what's going on in the community. Like who is hanging out with

00:55:35.440 who and who's doing this and where are you going? It's, it's modern day gossip, but also at the same

00:55:40.800 time, like if you don't know what's going on in your social community, like that's not great.

00:55:45.260 That's not, that's not an evolutionary advantage. Exactly. There must be an evolutionary reason for women

00:55:49.500 being the way that they are. It's not just like, oh, women are dumb and emotional. It's like,

00:55:52.400 there's a reason for that. Like we were created that way.

00:55:54.760 But this is also one of the reasons that I think marketing, I mean, left-wing parties,

00:55:58.880 I'm going to say for the U.S., the Democrats have done a really good job of capitalizing on the

00:56:02.620 collective hive mind of women, which is like, if one of them perceives a threat, the other ones are

00:56:07.700 likely, especially if it's a trusted woman to be like, you're right. So as soon as it became,

00:56:11.160 well, Republicans are trying to lock you up and pen, you know, send you back to the kitchen or

00:56:15.120 whatever, like horrible theoretical threat men are trying to do. It became,

00:56:19.340 you cannot vote for this other party because you're voting against all of us.

00:56:23.280 And I think that's how women, like in my generation, my liberal friends feel. They're

00:56:27.320 like, why would you want to vote for being barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen?

00:56:31.200 Sounds fun though. You know, I don't mind. I wear slippers when I cook because I don't

00:56:34.960 like grime on my feet, but I'm pregnant and cooking.

00:56:38.340 What is it called when you, uh, grounding?

00:56:40.760 Yes.

00:56:41.200 You have to go outside.

00:56:42.340 On the grass.

00:56:42.620 Yeah.

00:56:42.840 Absolutely.

00:56:43.340 Touch the grass.

00:56:44.500 Big grounder.

00:56:45.440 Touch grass.

00:56:46.140 But I think that there's that mentality that we're like, well, that's not how it is. But then

00:56:51.200 today it kind of is like, if you're not like Nat was saying before, like the red pill movement has

00:56:57.200 sort of come down on women so hard where it's like, if you're not baking sourdough with a bow in your

00:57:01.580 hair, being like, I'm a submissive, like I'll have sex with my husband, whatever he wants. It's

00:57:05.240 like, you're a, you're a femme, you're a rad femme.

00:57:07.120 Like we have been called all the things, like, especially in our reply, like that video that

00:57:13.180 we posted about you, people, men were in the comments being like, you ladies are the reason

00:57:17.060 they're taking my gun. And I'm like, no wonder you're unmarried.

00:57:19.880 Love guns.

00:57:20.420 You're like, but I am married.

00:57:21.420 Yeah. You guys hate men. You don't need men. We're like, we're both married. I love men.

00:57:24.740 Men are the best. And we have guns. Like, come on. Like, what are you talking about?

00:57:27.840 Another funny one was when you reposted our AI skit, um, a lot of like sort of people were

00:57:33.800 like, what, what's wrong with being an incel? I was like, sir, I was like, to one of the

00:57:38.880 guys I responded, like, it's up to you to not be a creep, man. Like, you want to date

00:57:42.660 a robot? Like that's on you, but you let us know.

00:57:45.280 But it was just satire. I was, it was, you guys made a funny video about it.

00:57:47.900 Yeah, I know. But they were getting really triggered by it. They were like, this is what,

00:57:51.880 because women are like you. And it's like, uh, so you're like defending dating AI right now.

00:57:57.600 Like, are you outing yourself like that?

00:57:58.980 Well, what I really liked about the video was when you had publicly that. So, uh,

00:58:03.420 for those that don't know, like you guys made an AI video of like someone dating an AI and I was

00:58:07.080 like, it can say whatever you want. Then you went help. Yeah. It can make all these sex noises.

00:58:11.180 And she's like, help. That's what you sickos want, isn't it? You freaks. Yeah. Well, uh,

00:58:18.440 to the AI stuff, I think OnlyFans is over. Conservatives rejoice. That's amazing.

00:58:24.040 Yeah. But now you have AI boobies, which are way bigger than real boobies. We can't even compete.

00:58:27.980 Have you, have you gone to the website and seen just how massive the tits are?

00:58:30.780 No, no. Yeah. When you, yeah. So it's like,

00:58:33.420 that's a very boy thing to do. I will. How big have them titties?

00:58:36.660 I'm going to do it right after this. No, no, no, no, no. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:58:38.760 I am not saying to intentionally be like, I wonder how big AI girls tits are. I'm saying.

00:58:43.340 Tim did it for research. Yeah. I am saying that when the New York post wrote about this

00:58:48.700 and I looked up the website, I went, Holy crap. These are massive tits on these, on these women.

00:58:52.980 The arm to boob ratio is way off. I was like, Mattel is like, this is a great idea.

00:58:57.740 Shop teacher from Oakville. Yeah. Yeah. That's so weird that, uh, like there, the AI has,

00:59:07.180 they're, they're all, I guess I shouldn't say it's weird. It's, it's normal. All of the AI is

00:59:12.040 like 90% are physically impossible women with little children, hyper-sexualized. Don't they

00:59:18.860 have like little girl faces? Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That you choose the age.

00:59:23.200 Like there was a, there's a, they all have massive tits. Yeah. But there's like a 50 year

00:59:26.440 old woman with massive tits. How inclusive of, yeah, that's kind of beautiful in a way.

00:59:31.880 What was that website called? Sure. He's like, what was it again? I genuinely don't know.

00:59:37.700 It's not, it's not in my favorites. No, we haven't seen the AI tits. I mean, I see them

00:59:42.900 like just scrolling on Twitter. It's like, it's like Nordic woman with like warrior breastplate

00:59:48.620 on and she's like, this is no warrior. Like she, she can't pull a bow. Yeah. Here, look,

00:59:55.620 look, look. So she's 51. Oh, wow. She looks great. Yeah. These are all fake. Wow. You want

01:00:01.980 to know? Okay. Do you want to know what the creepiest thing about this is? What? I, okay.

01:00:05.900 First, I just want to say I'm a big fan of anime. Um, and watch this create your own AI.

01:00:11.540 Can we, do you want to pull this up? Would you like a cartoon big tittied girlfriend or a real

01:00:17.740 woman? Oh, they're all fake, but shocking. My goodness. So I, I just find it to be absolutely

01:00:25.360 crazy. No, that's disturbing. I think, I think that's also why I was a little shocked by some

01:00:30.180 of the comments in the, the, our AI skit. It's like, there's clearly an issue here where

01:00:35.400 like, this is going to take over. Like men are like seriously considering this as an option

01:00:39.260 for a girlfriend and a relationship. Like, I think that that's like a huge issue that needs

01:00:43.960 to be addressed. Why? Why do you think they think this is the way to go? I think there's

01:00:48.680 a loneliness epidemic and a lot of these people don't think they can get a real girl because

01:00:52.860 they either hate them or they just aren't working on themselves either. It's like, cause

01:00:58.440 women are all bitches and sluts. Exactly. Like just download one. The problem is, is they're

01:01:02.740 going to run into is like, Oh, she can't really touch you. She can't cook for you. She can't

01:01:08.080 make you children. You can't have children. Yeah. Yeah. Like that's a big hurdle. There's

01:01:12.040 some guy who's posting videos of a machine that he made that connects to an AI woman's

01:01:17.620 voice and says all of these things while the dude, you know, uses this weird device.

01:01:22.400 So it's basically like Her, the movie Her where he hires like a, almost like a surrogate

01:01:26.440 while the AI voice kind of just does like a narration over them.

01:01:30.500 Oh, that's so creepy. Yeah. The way I describe it is each and every guy who's listening to

01:01:35.940 something like this. I want you to imagine this. When you go to, right now on the, it's

01:01:39.340 candy.ai, this website, you're gonna pull it up again. So see all these women. I want

01:01:43.680 you to imagine that behind each and every one of these photos is a demon tentacle hand

01:01:49.640 controlling them connected to one gigantic, disgusting wart covered monster. And you're

01:01:55.600 going like, well, look at her. I bet she would be fun to talk to. And you talk to her and the

01:01:59.740 demon is just going, you're so handsome. And you're like, thank you. It's one demonic entity

01:02:06.480 behind all of it saying it's, it is, it is like a tentacle demon monster with a mask floating

01:02:14.400 in front of your face saying, I love you. And you're like, oh, and you're, you're being

01:02:17.820 hypnotized by it. It is the creepiest, like all of these dystopian novels never came close

01:02:24.740 to understanding the, the, the derangement that is going to be AI relationships. And don't

01:02:30.160 worry, you can get guys in there too. They have a male version.

01:02:32.360 Oh, yippee. Do women really like anime guys? No. Well, you, there you go. He looks like

01:02:38.120 a little girl. Like my baby girl has that face. Great jawline though. Yeah. Mine is

01:02:41.820 the jawline. Yeah. Well, do you want, and then this, this fake guy. These guys just look

01:02:45.880 like the guys in The Bachelor. I would love to hear, see the data behind how many women

01:02:50.400 are actually selecting men from the site. Yeah. Like what's the traffic? Maybe it's gay men

01:02:54.740 who are selecting men. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good point. But I just, I, women aren't doing

01:02:58.780 this. Women aren't doing it. Just Trudeau's on there for sure. Yeah. Both as an option

01:03:02.580 and as a user. Exactly. He's such a narcissist. Yeah. I also feel like if it was a guy using

01:03:08.700 this service, he'd want the girl to be talking about weird sex stuff. And the woman would want

01:03:13.380 the guy to say more like. How's your day? I love you, sweetheart. You're right. Those

01:03:17.560 girls that work our bitches. I was going to say Fifty Shades of Grey, but. Oh. No, I think

01:03:20.820 a woman would rather have someone sweet talker. The best thing a man can do is just be

01:03:24.760 like, you're so, you're right. That's such a good point. Yeah, exactly. You are so

01:03:28.720 smart. That sounds really difficult. Yeah, no. Janet's dress was real ugly. Your bangs

01:03:33.000 look so much better than those. Exactly. She's, you're not fat. She is. Your new hairdo is

01:03:38.100 so much more flattering. Like, I'll dye my whole head a different color and come home. And

01:03:43.700 my husband's like, hey, I'm like, hello? And he's like, you look exactly the same as you

01:03:49.520 did before. I'm like, I'm a redhead. You smell good though. Yeah. Met are weird, you

01:03:54.340 guys. No, but I think there is, they are, men and women are very different. And I think

01:04:00.480 for women, it is much more about the emotional and psychological support that men offer. Whereas

01:04:06.180 for men, it's obviously more physical. It's one of the reasons that like women have smut

01:04:09.960 novels, but men have like hardcore porn. Look, there's two pregnant anime women on this

01:04:16.740 thing. No. This is my fear. You guys are degenerates. Sometimes I see men in public staring at me and

01:04:21.980 I'm like, are you, are you fetishizing? Well, everyone loves a fertile woman. Oh, it's so

01:04:26.600 gross. Well, this is why guys. It doesn't make you feel empowered? No. All these women. Pushing

01:04:31.260 out a baby makes me feel empowered. Not that. So 90% of the, of the AI women have massive tits

01:04:36.820 and they're all exposed to. Yeah. Like. Modest is hottest y'all. I mean here, Brianna. There's

01:04:43.420 a little titty girl right there. But that's also kind of interesting. Alexandra. Yeah.

01:04:48.320 Like she's. But that's also kind of funny because men always talk about how, you know,

01:04:52.240 wearing yoga pants means you're a whore and all these things. Yeah. This is what single

01:04:56.100 men are looking at. You guys are hypocrites. It's the same guys too. It's the same guys.

01:04:59.420 They're calling you a whore for wearing yoga pants running. And then they're like, but,

01:05:01.980 but Brianna gets me. Cover up. I'm wearing a turtleneck, bro. Yeah. I wonder if this is like

01:05:06.640 guys are divided where you'll hear the conservative guys being like yoga pants make you a whore.

01:05:13.040 And then the degenerate guys are like buying it on OnlyFans. You know what I mean? Yeah. So

01:05:18.200 it's like a divide or something. Cause I don't, I don't think traditional conservative men,

01:05:24.180 there's actually, there's going to be, there's going to be an overlap for sure. For whatever

01:05:28.480 reason. Oh, you can call them on the phone. Anyway. Saving out a go. But like a lot of the guys

01:05:35.700 who are on say X and they're saying things like women shouldn't wear yoga pants, probably not using

01:05:40.080 this service. And then the guys who are using the service are probably male feminists. Maybe

01:05:44.840 they're programming the service. Like it's like Andrew Tate type of guys who are like, Oh, yoga

01:05:50.360 pants make you a whore. But it's like, dude, you run a whorehouse. Like, you know, you know, let's,

01:05:55.420 let's definitely talk about like this, this new industry of hating women on social media. And I think

01:06:01.660 it's because women don't watch news. So, uh, and I mean that generally speaking, a lot of women do

01:06:06.800 watch news, but, um, it is very, very, very lopsided. Uh, news is heavily male, uh, in terms

01:06:13.280 of consumption. And so if you're on X, your engagement is probably skewing male. And then

01:06:19.720 true. What's, what are you going to do? Like you, you, you go on a social media, you go on YouTube,

01:06:25.320 for instance, which is a, it's very male skewed. Yeah. Our show is primarily male,

01:06:29.340 surprisingly. Women, which is so weird. Yeah. Women don't watch the stuff. Yeah. I don't know

01:06:33.500 what women do. Um, well, there was another comedian who had a bit, it was a female comedian about women

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01:06:46.160 We go out. And I've seen another girl say since then, like, I, what do you mean? What are my hobbies?

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01:08:19.560 Don't you realize I get my nails done every week and my hair? Remember like my hobby is maintaining

01:08:23.640 myself, which like costs money and time. I think that the way that men and women's brains work are

01:08:28.960 so different that it is difficult to say like our hobbies are the same thing. You know, a man who is

01:08:34.120 like, I'm going to go golfing for three hours. Like maybe there's a social component. You go with your

01:08:37.920 friend. You never hear about his divorce or like anything else. But if a girl is like, I'm going

01:08:41.680 to go to lunch with my friend, that doesn't seem like a hobby. On the other hand, like maintaining

01:08:45.700 her social life is sort of her part-time side thing. It's like my husband would rather be upstairs

01:08:51.440 playing guitar like by himself than doing anything else. It's insane. Yeah. I mean, that's what he

01:08:57.620 wants to do. I think one of the challenges with like the anti-woman energy is that there is a very

01:09:04.820 serious disconnect between the understanding of like what women are interested in. And a lot of

01:09:09.600 times it's not the same thing as men, but that doesn't mean you can't be common, like have

01:09:12.880 commonality or complementary. Yeah, otherwise marriages wouldn't work. Right. And we know that

01:09:16.460 they do. One of, just to jump back to the yoga pants thing, I think there are a lot of conservative

01:09:23.900 men or just men in general who are saying like, no, no, I wouldn't. I want a wife who acts this way

01:09:29.700 and has this standard for herself who are ultimately sucked into watching a lot of porn or who to seek

01:09:35.600 this stuff out because it's sort of like, it's a separate thing. They're able to separate it and

01:09:39.640 feel less guilty or detached from it in a weird way. And that becomes one of the issues. If you're

01:09:44.520 living your life publicly one way and you're doing something else privately, that cognitive

01:09:48.600 distance is present in men as well. And I think it encourages women to sort of try to turn a blind eye

01:09:54.060 to things that they wouldn't necessarily. Like if you had a boyfriend who was like, oh yeah,

01:09:57.900 like I love you, but I just want to have sex with this other girl sometimes, you wouldn't be okay

01:10:01.220 with that. And again, being able to be like, I'm going to look at, look for sexual gratification

01:10:06.200 in one place, but also I still want you to behave a certain way. Like it's just sort of separating

01:10:10.160 out something that our culture, because we didn't have this widespread access to pornography,

01:10:14.920 used to keep consolidated in one place, the marriage.

01:10:17.960 So I wanted to, Pearl Davis is a great example of this like very women critical space. I'm going to be,

01:10:25.020 I'm being very generous as I describe it that way, but I'm, I'm, I'm wondering if you've got

01:10:30.520 a predominantly male audience on these social platforms that are watching news. So, uh, many

01:10:35.220 of them, especially now with the trends we're seeing in dating where younger men have no

01:10:39.220 relationships, have never met women, struggle to meet women, have not had sex at all. I think

01:10:43.820 like virginity under 30 is like a 30% or something. Uh, Seamus Coughlin, who was just here, I brought

01:10:49.820 that stand up and he goes based because he's a, he's a conservative Catholic. And I was like,

01:10:54.140 not based 20 year old men should be married and they shouldn't be virgins. Right. I mean,

01:10:59.100 if that's your worldview, you should be actually upset that 30 year olds are, he's like, Oh,

01:11:02.600 right. Actually. Yeah. Good point. And I'm like, right. You shouldn't have a 30 year old

01:11:05.680 virgin even in a traditional conservative society. So I feel like then with all these young men

01:11:10.980 who clearly have desires, can't attain them, then see these posts from these red pillars and these,

01:11:18.580 you know, quote unquote women critical spaces. And it generates a ton of money. There's anger and

01:11:23.560 animosity and large male audiences. I feel like you're not going to be able to go to a bunch of

01:11:30.160 women. You're not gonna be able to go to like a makeup channel and be like, women suck. Women are

01:11:33.480 bad. They just want to divorce their husbands. No woman is going to want to watch that.

01:11:38.220 Yeah. It's like that old saying, like in news, if it bleeds, it leads. It's sort of like the modern

01:11:43.140 version of that. So if I, like, we've talked about this all the time where we're like, you know,

01:11:47.120 the best way for us to make money on X is to like just rage bait, just be total assholes and just be

01:11:52.520 like, women should just be making bread and shut the fuck up and all that. Like we would get way

01:11:57.020 more traction than us being like, actually there's nuance here. And I don't like, even though I'm a

01:12:02.600 conservative Christian female, I still think that I should have rights and not be raped at my husband's

01:12:08.860 whim. Like that's not as cool and fun and popular on the internet as just being like, fuck those

01:12:13.820 bitches. Like, sorry to be so crass, but it's like, that's, it's, it's, we know that we rage

01:12:18.880 baiting is such a real thing and engagement farming. And it's just like, I love Twitter. Like I'm on it

01:12:25.140 nonstop. And I think Elon Musk has done a great job with the free speech angle, but making people

01:12:29.600 get paid for engagement, I think is a big mistake. Well, the end result was mostly posts where it's

01:12:37.420 like, Donald Trump is the greatest living president. What do you think? Yeah, exactly. It's here's a viral

01:12:43.500 video from six months ago. What, like, how does this make you feel? Which way Western man? And

01:12:48.060 it's like, it's so, oh, boring, but they're getting millions and millions of clicks. And it's like,

01:12:53.140 all right, it is, it is starting to shift a little bit back. And either way, even through this stuff,

01:12:58.120 if in terms of culture, X has a Twitter, then X always has been the dominant platform,

01:13:02.980 no matter what anyone tries, they can't threads is like spiraling really bad. They can't, they can't get it.

01:13:07.920 Who? Yeah. Yeah. I suppose then, uh, uh, the big question is we have a lot of people who come on

01:13:15.360 Timcast IRL females. It's never the guy. And they say repeal the 19th amendment, which do you guys

01:13:22.540 know what that one is? Yeah. It's the right to vote. Women having the right to vote. Or I guess

01:13:26.740 it's literally that you cannot restrict vote based on sex. So I don't think voting is a right in this

01:13:33.900 country. I'm not entirely sure. It might be a privilege. I don't know. But, uh, there are many

01:13:38.160 people who have now started to move into the women shouldn't vote at all. We, we talked about that

01:13:43.160 on our last show recently. Yeah. I think we should be allowed to vote personally for many, many reasons,

01:13:48.980 including, but not limited to the fact that like we have free will, like we're Christians. So we

01:13:53.320 believe God gave us free will. So why would he create men, give them free will, and then not just

01:13:57.800 make us sex automatons if we, if that was how the world should play itself out, then there's a million

01:14:02.860 other reasons, but like talk about male vegans. Why did they get to vote? Unmarried male vegan gets

01:14:08.320 to vote, but I don't as a Christian conservative. That's just so stupid. And like, well, and it's

01:14:12.140 also like, it's like vegans can't vote new rule. Exactly. Like if we're going to start picking and

01:14:16.660 choosing based on how we think we're, it's going to end up like, well, yeah, like even my husband was

01:14:21.400 saying, well, if women don't vote, then there'll be more like conservative outcomes. And I'm like,

01:14:25.800 but you don't get to base who gets to vote based on how you want the end result to be. That's just not

01:14:30.740 democratic at all in its essence. So it's like, we, I don't want people who've, who drive big

01:14:35.720 trucks on the highway behind me swerving in and out without signaling. I don't want them to vote.

01:14:39.960 Who's to say your vote even really means anything that much anymore. Like I'm shocked that Trudeau

01:14:43.940 is going on like 10 years in Canada. His approval rating is quite low. Every, every time you talk to

01:14:49.480 someone in Canada or even in Toronto, everyone hates the guy yet. He somehow manages to secure

01:14:54.340 the government. It makes no sense.

01:14:56.560 Well, that's why there's a lot of people saying women shouldn't vote because women overwhelmingly

01:15:00.980 are voting for these liberal left policies without paying attention to the news.

01:15:05.920 And so we need to make them pay attention. We need to like, and it's not going to that.

01:15:08.980 Yeah. And it's not fruitful to yell at women and scream at them about it. And yeah. And threatened

01:15:12.800 to take away their right to vote or not. Right. I guess, but you know, I think the issue for the

01:15:17.900 United States is not that women have the right to vote, but that women gained the right to vote

01:15:21.560 without equal civic responsibility. And then we stripped civic responsibility from voting entirely.

01:15:27.580 So, you know, if you look at 2020, I think Donald Trump won the argument and lost the election.

01:15:32.740 The Republicans and the Trump supporters thought we're going to go tell people that the economy

01:15:37.260 is booming under Trump and there'll be war under Joe Biden. And sure, that's a great argument.

01:15:43.560 And then Democrats were like, what does that have to do with collecting signatures?

01:15:46.700 They went around and collected more pieces of paper about harvesting, nursing homes,

01:15:49.780 all that stuff. And they got what they needed to get in order to win.

01:15:53.720 If you go back to suffrage, the main argument why there were many women who didn't want the right

01:15:58.800 to vote is because voting was tied to the draft and fire brigade and things like that. And there

01:16:03.900 were women who were like, no way are you going to force me to join the fire brigade? Are you nuts?

01:16:09.280 And so then finally the compromise was, okay, okay, how about this? Women can vote and they don't have

01:16:14.460 to do anything.

01:16:15.080 But men don't have those responsibilities, like you said.

01:16:18.340 Anymore.

01:16:18.840 Anymore, yeah.

01:16:19.440 And so that's the big issue. So I actually think, I don't care if women, I don't care for the arguments

01:16:27.760 to repeal the 19th. We need a 28th amendment, which says there has to be some civic responsibility.

01:16:33.500 One potential solution in the United States, at least, I was talking to Vivek Ramaswamy a year ago

01:16:38.180 about this, was in order to vote, you have to sign up for the selective service.

01:16:41.600 Yeah.

01:16:42.240 Because at first we were like, service guarantees citizenship. So you have to do, you know,

01:16:47.540 two years of some kind of civil service. Does it mean military?

01:16:50.040 Yeah, it's plenty of jobs for women in that.

01:16:52.100 You could be, you could be working at a community center, you could do a soup kitchen, you could do

01:16:56.260 roadside cleanup, you could teach a soccer team or something. It has to be civic duty to your

01:17:00.900 community. And then the problem is, it's pretty heavy, two years, right? And I think this was

01:17:05.640 Vivek's idea. He said, and I don't think he's on board with this anymore. At the time he proposed

01:17:10.100 it. Once you sign up for selective service, which is in essence, the draft, you get a voter ID. If

01:17:16.300 you don't have one, you can't vote. You have all rights and privileges. Otherwise you have free

01:17:20.000 speech and all that stuff, due process.

01:17:22.260 So earn your vote.

01:17:23.260 Not even earning it.

01:17:24.340 I guess.

01:17:24.780 When you turn 18, male or female, you say, I am now registered for the selective service. In the

01:17:30.040 event of a draft, I will be called upon to serve my country. And then you can vote. So you literally

01:17:35.040 don't have to join the military. You literally, men already have to do this.

01:17:38.140 What would it entail though, like by signing that? Like if there was a war, like, would

01:17:42.240 that mean like, I got to go to battle?

01:17:43.620 You could potentially be drafted, but it's not a guarantee.

01:17:46.460 I mean, I think part of it is just saying like, hey, I'm in this with you guys. I am

01:17:50.780 committed to the point where if called upon, I would be in service of this country.

01:17:57.480 Here's the thing. A conservative Christian woman would be like, yeah, sure. And a male vegan

01:18:03.700 feminist would be like, no, exactly. Yeah. So I'm totally on board with that. Absolutely.

01:18:08.740 So, uh, and I've had a lot of people say like, you think you have to be drafted, blah, blah. And

01:18:12.200 I'm like, they're not going to draft you, but also why should you get to vote in what our military

01:18:17.240 is doing if you're not willing to actually support what they're doing? So we haven't called upon the

01:18:22.240 draft since Vietnam. It's been 50 or so years. There's no intention right now to draft. There's a

01:18:27.980 fear they may if like a world war three happens. And so guess what? Take the bet. Are you willing

01:18:34.560 to, uh, and I know there's a lot of guys who are like, women shouldn't be drafted. And I'm like,

01:18:38.340 dude, the draft doesn't mean combat. It means that if a war happens, they're going to be like,

01:18:43.360 Hey, how many medics, we need all chefs, not even in the field. They might be like, we need to mass

01:18:48.020 produce as much bread as possible. And then the women end up in the kitchen. Exactly where they

01:18:52.460 wanted them in the first place. The way they belong. A lot of chefs are men. Yeah. It's true.

01:18:57.000 Wow. They're really intruding on a stereotypically female dominated industry. It's so true. No,

01:19:00.940 it's actually, it was a male dominated industry until I think world war one and two. See women

01:19:05.200 have to work in the home always. The reason why the narrative of, of like making dinner came to

01:19:09.780 women was because men went and fought in wars and then the women did the like, uh, like support roles.

01:19:15.080 Yeah. But that's just it. I think it's a great idea. It's like relatively simple. And then what

01:19:20.380 happens is all the feminists, all, all of, all the people who hate this country instantly are

01:19:25.160 not voting anymore and there's nothing stopping them from doing it. Cause I think ultimately you

01:19:29.400 want people to have stake in the game, so to speak, right? You want them to be engaged. Like I used to

01:19:33.860 say, and I, I don't, I still feel this way. Like I am open to, uh, repealing the women's right to vote

01:19:39.400 provided that we make it just married men who own property. Like I would want it to be something that

01:19:45.520 we're changing it so that the, the base voting block represents a, a, uh, modicum of society

01:19:51.300 that I want to see grow. I want to see more families in the country. I want people to have

01:19:55.960 their own children. And if we made it so that there was something that you, you felt invested,

01:20:00.720 like if you're signed up for the draft, you know, even if it's really small, you could potentially

01:20:04.780 be called to serve. If you are voting, knowing that ultimately you are representing your whole family

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01:21:48.660 Well, I think the messaging is the issue though, because when you see someone screaming repeal the

01:21:52.940 19th on Twitter, people are confused. And when you put it the way you just put it, it makes more

01:21:57.660 sense. And I think it's a marketing issue, which is honestly the root of all the problems with

01:22:02.020 conservatives in general. We're just really bad at marketing really like, but the right needs a

01:22:06.160 rebrand. Well, and I think part of like, you know, some of it is like you guys were alluding to this,

01:22:12.200 that shock sells. And so if you're able to say, especially in Twitter, when with Twitter, if they're

01:22:17.080 rewarding you for engagement, if you're able to get people to come fight in your comments, you want to

01:22:21.520 say the edgiest thing you can. And maybe you have a secondary platform where you could explain what you

01:22:25.820 mean, but also you don't have to. Right. And I think that's one of the challenges with marketing

01:22:33.520 online right now. Like the things that you might draw conservatives who are, if you were to say

01:22:40.140 like, yeah, I think everyone should, should get married and, and, you know, divorce should be

01:22:44.780 illegal or something. There might be people who are like, I can't believe you'd say that.

01:22:48.380 It'll get engagement though.

01:22:49.580 Because you can't tell if they're saying it with good intention or not. And I mean, that's obviously a

01:22:53.680 very shocking statement to read, but you have no idea the intent behind it. And a lot of people

01:22:57.600 are just being careless with the words that they're using on Twitter.

01:23:01.420 Because you get, you get privileges or like you get paid for being careless on Twitter.

01:23:05.500 Exactly.

01:23:06.160 But on the other hand, like it is advancing the conversation, right? Like I think so often

01:23:10.880 conservative issues, conservatives don't lead the conversation. It's always responding to

01:23:16.440 something that the left has done. They're always playing catch up. Yeah. And I don't think like

01:23:20.780 when I say like, I don't like how people are being rage baiting and stuff. I'm certainly not saying

01:23:25.160 I want that to be shut down or like, I don't think any idea should be banned. I think you should be

01:23:29.300 able to say the most heinous, disgusting thing you can possibly say on the internet. I just don't like

01:23:33.660 how people are getting paid for it. And I think it just makes the whole problem worse. It's like,

01:23:37.440 if we're just sharing ideas for the sake of sharing ideas, I almost think that X was better before it

01:23:41.900 was monetized. Maybe that's because I'd make no money.

01:23:44.300 Yeah. That's also because I make no money, but also like, I don't want to, we've, again,

01:23:48.140 we've talked about this. Like I don't want to do the things that I would need to do to make money

01:23:51.460 on X. Like if I posted more selfies and had more shit takes, I'd make more money, but I'm not willing

01:23:56.720 to do that. The problem I have with the monetization of X is that now, whenever I troll

01:24:00.180 someone, they accuse me of grifting for money. And I'm like the two grand I make, you know,

01:24:04.820 like a thousand bucks a week, I get like a thousand bucks a week on X. Like that is not a motivator

01:24:09.000 for me to post pictures of Donald Trump super ripped. But for a lot of people, it is a motivator.

01:24:13.980 It's like, it's life changing money for a lot of people. And I think they're taking advantage of that.

01:24:18.520 I don't think so. Like, yes, to the, to the point, but it's not, it's like, I've got 2 million

01:24:24.520 followers and I'll get 4,000 retweets or something. I don't get any money for that. So with all of the

01:24:30.780 hundreds of millions of engagements that I get, it's a couple grand per month. It's in Canada.

01:24:35.560 That's like a lot. Anybody, anybody with millions of followers is probably making a lot more money

01:24:42.660 doing other things. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah. Yeah. So it's cool that monetization is there.

01:24:48.320 And I look forward to them improving upon it. But so some people, however, without saying their

01:24:54.920 names are getting, were getting, I don't know if they're still getting like 30 grand a month

01:24:58.560 from their engagement with substantially less followers.

01:25:00.360 Look, Tim, I told you not to tell people that.

01:25:02.260 Wow. Congratulations. Dinner on you.

01:25:05.000 I'm like barely alive on X.

01:25:06.220 No, I mean, it is interesting that it is a system that rewards shock content or hateful

01:25:12.820 content. On the other hand, I do think that it is, it has been motivating for me in some

01:25:18.380 way to see people say sort of bold and brash things. Like I know it is, you know, when Tim

01:25:24.260 tweets like, I, it's funny to see these women get punched. Like, yeah, obviously you don't

01:25:28.860 want anyone to be advocating violence against women. On the other hand, it is interesting to

01:25:33.420 see that this is something that makes people come out. You know, if you're just saying

01:25:37.680 nice things.

01:25:38.080 If you get the conversation started.

01:25:39.220 Right.

01:25:39.640 Like there's something to it.

01:25:40.980 Yeah. Yeah. And you have to fight bad ideas with good ideas. So it's like, if you say

01:25:44.380 something that I disagree with, I'm not going to be like, you shouldn't say it or be allowed

01:25:48.760 to say that. And I think I should be allowed to just be like, I'm going to call you out on

01:25:52.280 that. Even if I get less engagement, it's not really the point. It's just like, I like

01:25:55.900 how it's a public square and I really like how free it's become.

01:25:58.400 Because you need a bad idea to be out so you can fight it.

01:26:00.620 Exactly.

01:26:00.860 I want to stress this to the people in the chat who are like 40k a year is not trivial.

01:26:04.440 No, I understand that. But the only way to get 40k a year is to have millions of followers

01:26:08.700 and people with millions of followers who are generating the kind of engagement to get

01:26:12.620 that kind of money off X.

01:26:15.000 X is not their main source of revenue.

01:26:16.480 Yeah. Like, so the idea that I'm posting things on X, because I'm like, oh boy, 40,000

01:26:22.240 a year when I could literally just post a link being like buy a shirt and make $40,000

01:26:26.580 in a month. Like the Twitter X revenue is trivial and not a motivator for a lot of people. However,

01:26:33.080 there are some people who have nothing else.

01:26:36.460 Someone like Hannah Pearl Davis.

01:26:37.600 Yeah, they abuse it.

01:26:38.580 Probably, she probably doesn't have a lot of other income sources.

01:26:41.540 Oh, no, no. I disagree.

01:26:42.580 Really?

01:26:42.980 She's doing very well.

01:26:43.860 I don't know. So I'm just talking about it.

01:26:45.580 I think her membership and YouTube revenue is probably, she's a millionaire for sure.

01:26:49.420 That's gross.

01:26:49.900 She's killing it. Girl boss.

01:26:52.520 I will say this about Pearl. She's going to, we're going to have here, she's going to

01:26:55.720 debate some stuff. And I certainly don't think she's wrong about everything. I just, I find

01:27:00.720 that literally the only thing she ever talks about is women being bad.

01:27:03.760 Yeah.

01:27:04.520 It's kind of weird.

01:27:05.560 Yeah.

01:27:05.940 I think she's sad.

01:27:07.080 I think she's sad too. She makes, she gives me sad vibes.

01:27:09.460 Like she's clearly a very insecure woman.

01:27:11.880 I think she's talked about that.

01:27:14.020 Yeah.

01:27:14.160 Yeah, she has, which is just, it makes it even more sad. It's like, girl, we can help you.

01:27:18.280 Yeah.

01:27:18.860 Yeah.

01:27:19.060 Do you think the issue, I saw someone say this of her and I don't, I, I, I'm not intentionally

01:27:23.660 like, this is, this is not my opinion. Someone said, Pearl is a woman who is insecure, has

01:27:29.140 said she's insecure, feels like she's unattractive and struggles with men and found a path towards

01:27:33.800 having a bunch of men now like respect and watch her content.

01:27:36.300 A hundred percent.

01:27:36.600 Yeah, of course.

01:27:37.100 It's like, call it a pick me.

01:27:37.960 Pick me.

01:27:38.200 Yeah.

01:27:38.500 She's a hundred percent a pick me.

01:27:39.740 I'm not like other girls.

01:27:41.260 Yeah.

01:27:41.600 I'm not like other girls.

01:27:42.620 I'm a cool girl.

01:27:44.200 Yeah.

01:27:44.400 Like girls are stupid.

01:27:45.800 I'm not like me.

01:27:46.480 I'm smart though.

01:27:47.960 I was, I was one of those when I was 16 years old.

01:27:50.500 Exactly.

01:27:50.880 Like it's something you grow out of because when you're young, you want to be like, Hey,

01:27:53.600 cool.

01:27:53.860 Yeah.

01:27:54.120 I'm skateboarding.

01:27:55.120 Like I'm like a cool girl, but it's like, actually I'm going to break my ankle.

01:27:58.060 Like I'm not, I'm bad at skateboarding.

01:27:59.840 And I only ever pick up my skateboard when a boy who's exactly in the room.

01:28:03.000 And the people that I love the most are women outside of my husband and stuff.

01:28:05.860 It's like, yeah, you grow out of that.

01:28:07.800 Ultimately, most women care more about what other women think about them.

01:28:11.380 For sure.

01:28:11.860 I dress in a way that appeals only to women.

01:28:14.240 Yeah.

01:28:14.400 Yeah.

01:28:14.620 Yeah.

01:28:14.800 That's, that's the thing we were talking about.

01:28:15.980 Like guys not knowing anything about their, their friends, relationships or whatever.

01:28:19.980 And you were, you were saying like guys do things.

01:28:22.600 We have a skate park here.

01:28:24.200 When the, when the guys show up, I literally have no idea where they live.

01:28:27.420 I don't even know their phone numbers.

01:28:28.680 I got mad.

01:28:29.180 It's like, they show up.

01:28:30.060 I'm like, Hey, what's up man?

01:28:30.760 Fist bump.

01:28:31.260 And then, you know, uh, he does a kickflip backside five out on the ledge.

01:28:34.040 And I'm like, Oh, what was that guy's name again?

01:28:36.180 For real?

01:28:36.920 Like, yeah.

01:28:37.940 Men, women, social is very different.

01:28:39.700 Yeah.

01:28:39.840 Yeah.

01:28:40.480 And then, so I think, you know, obviously for, uh, for women, it is more about the social

01:28:46.040 interpersonal.

01:28:46.780 And for the men, it's the object.

01:28:48.740 Actually, there's a really good example of this.

01:28:50.260 Men rag on women for this all the time.

01:28:52.420 And it is always really, it's, I've always wanted to be kind of dumb that, uh, there's

01:28:57.840 a meme where when a guy buys something and takes a picture of it, women take a picture

01:29:02.060 of themselves holding it.

01:29:03.620 It's a, it's about them.

01:29:04.640 And I was like, it's funny because for a while men online ragged on women for doing

01:29:08.860 this.

01:29:09.320 And they were like, ha ha, look how stupid women are.

01:29:12.300 And then, uh, they just love themselves.

01:29:14.000 They're so vapid and vain.

01:29:15.120 And then there was this story on Reddit where a guy says that, uh, he, him and his brother

01:29:19.320 were sitting with their grandma and she was showing them photo album of all the things

01:29:22.620 she had done.

01:29:23.420 And then she was like, and here's where we were at the Grand Canyon.

01:29:25.640 And it was a picture of just the Grand Canyon.

01:29:27.420 And then the grandma was like, why do I have a picture of the Grand Canyon?

01:29:30.360 I don't care about the Grand Canyon.

01:29:31.440 I care about your father and your uncle.

01:29:33.400 And then he was, he realized, wow.

01:29:35.500 And from that point on every photo he ever took when he went out, always had him and

01:29:38.940 whoever was with him in the photo.

01:29:40.560 Cause they don't, you don't look back and like, oh wow, this blurry picture of the Grand

01:29:44.780 Canyon.

01:29:45.440 Yeah.

01:29:45.740 It's like, you can get a blurry picture of the Grand Canyon.

01:29:48.040 Your photography skills are not that good.

01:29:49.700 Yeah.

01:29:49.720 Just Google it.

01:29:50.000 Yeah.

01:29:50.120 You can Google it.

01:29:51.140 Exactly.

01:29:52.080 But that's, that, that was interesting too.

01:29:53.680 It's like to see these young guys on social media be like, oh, look how dumb women are taking

01:29:57.800 pictures of themselves.

01:29:58.740 And then it's like, yeah, you're going to be an old man and you're going to wish you had

01:30:01.240 pictures of yourself and your, and your friends.

01:30:03.800 Especially if you're trying to date online, have you seen the state of those?

01:30:07.400 Like I'm, I'm on Reddit, like the, the Tinder subreddit.

01:30:10.900 Oh, it's so tragic.

01:30:11.920 Like it's, it's very entertaining for me, but a lot of it is men who are like, I don't

01:30:15.940 know what pictures to post cause they don't have any pictures of themselves.

01:30:18.300 It's a fine line because when a woman sees a man who is, you know, with his shirt off

01:30:22.720 and he's holding a baby and there's a burning building, you're like, dude, you're trying

01:30:26.380 too hard.

01:30:26.780 So it's just a very fine line.

01:30:28.100 I love this one so much.

01:30:32.100 In, I don't know, I don't know much about modern dating, but I know that like in the, in the

01:30:36.440 late 2000s and 2010s, women, there were articles written about this by feminists.

01:30:41.340 Women would often say, if you've got a picture of yourself with no shirt on, pass, don't bother.

01:30:46.220 And then, and then they found overwhelmingly women skew heavily towards men who are shirtless

01:30:52.500 with abs.

01:30:53.140 Yeah.

01:30:53.480 So even though they'd say not interested, they'd lean over and be like, well, I'm going

01:30:57.060 to tell my single friends.

01:30:58.320 Yeah.

01:30:59.140 I think it's one of those, like I can change him situations where it's like, I want him

01:31:04.280 to be hot for sure.

01:31:05.440 And I don't want him to be a douchebag, but I want him to change for me.

01:31:08.540 And it's also tricky on dating apps because you don't really understand someone's worldview

01:31:12.040 and a lot of people, you don't understand their intention.

01:31:13.900 So it's really hard to grasp from first swipe if you're aligned or if this is just a hookup,

01:31:19.020 it's just very confusing.

01:31:20.060 I would not want to be single.

01:31:21.180 I think it's simple.

01:31:22.420 I think men and women like attractiveness.

01:31:24.980 Yes.

01:31:25.420 Like there are, I think many women were saying, oh, if you're not wearing a shirt because it

01:31:30.380 seems low brow.

01:31:31.560 Yeah.

01:31:32.120 Or vain.

01:31:33.140 Yeah.

01:31:33.840 Like you want to be upscale.

01:31:37.300 You want to be classy and a shirtless guy smiling.

01:31:40.560 Oh, that's not classy.

01:31:41.380 You put on a suit, but women like muscles.

01:31:44.180 Well, it's the same with that discourse, like the dad bod versus the buff guy.

01:31:47.860 Of course, most women prefer the guy who has ab muscles.

01:31:51.180 I think people are lying to themselves when they say they prefer the dad bod.

01:31:55.000 But there is also, there is also.

01:31:57.260 What was that?

01:31:57.820 That was a very serious shout out.

01:32:00.140 We're going to unpack that.

01:32:01.100 Let's put up a picture of my husband, please.

01:32:02.740 No, no, he's cute.

01:32:03.700 I'm just saying in general.

01:32:04.640 But like there is also a fine line.

01:32:06.260 Like if a guy looks like he's John Cena, you're going to, you're going to review that in your

01:32:11.120 head and be like, oh my gosh, this guy is so vain.

01:32:12.820 He's at the gym 24 seven.

01:32:14.080 He's juicing and whatever else men do.

01:32:16.300 I don't know.

01:32:16.820 And it's just too much.

01:32:17.680 Well, hey, that's unfair to John Cena.

01:32:18.320 I don't know that he's juicing.

01:32:19.500 No, no.

01:32:19.940 But I mean, like he's taking those electrolytes and like those pills and whatever.

01:32:25.540 Yeah.

01:32:25.780 I don't know.

01:32:26.080 He's a supplements bro.

01:32:27.120 Yeah, exactly.

01:32:27.980 Alpha brain.

01:32:28.640 Yeah.

01:32:29.040 Alpha brain.

01:32:29.540 Thanks, Joe Rogan.

01:32:30.060 Oh my gosh, I'm going to buy some of that.

01:32:32.100 I actually really like it.

01:32:33.340 I don't know.

01:32:34.840 Yeah.

01:32:35.360 I, I, I, it's like those packets that Joe Rogan sells.

01:32:38.140 Actually, they sold to Unilever or something.

01:32:39.900 I don't know.

01:32:40.580 But I, we recently just got it because I was buying nitric oxide and creatine from, from

01:32:47.140 on it.

01:32:47.600 And then as you're checking out, it's like, pick up, pick up your alpha brain.

01:32:50.500 And I was like, I'm sure the people here would like it.

01:32:52.720 I actually think it works.

01:32:53.960 I don't know what it is.

01:32:54.920 I'm going to give you abs.

01:32:56.260 He's like, no, I'm like an alpha brain flow state.

01:32:58.680 And I'm like, is that like a scientific state of mind?

01:33:01.500 It sounds great.

01:33:02.300 It's patented.

01:33:03.020 Yeah.

01:33:03.360 Flow state is like when you're in the zone and you're hyper-focused.

01:33:06.780 And I was like, I don't know.

01:33:08.140 It's probably just B vitamins and whatever, but I'll get it anyway.

01:33:10.440 And then I shook it up, took one.

01:33:12.200 And then like 40 minutes later, I went and skated.

01:33:13.920 And it was, I was like, I had noticeable.

01:33:16.360 And I'm like, wow, I don't know.

01:33:17.300 It's just caffeine.

01:33:18.080 No, I'm kidding.

01:33:18.680 It's not.

01:33:19.140 It's not caffeine.

01:33:19.580 No, I, I actually would take, I'm not allowed to take like stuff like that.

01:33:22.620 But, um, one day when I'm not pregnant for a million years, I will, I'm going to

01:33:27.120 try all of that stuff.

01:33:28.260 I'm going to do the whole thing.

01:33:29.760 I think your point about the gym makes sense though.

01:33:31.560 Cause I think it's sort of almost the spectrum.

01:33:33.040 Like, you don't want someone who's not taking care of themselves.

01:33:35.460 You want someone who is attractive, but if they look like they're overly obsessed with

01:33:39.340 themselves, you don't like it.

01:33:40.320 I think the scale, the scale actually can apply to women.

01:33:42.620 It's just that men are more forgiving about it.

01:33:44.840 So like, you know, there'll be men.

01:33:46.860 It's that joke.

01:33:47.560 Like, Oh, I want a girl who looks natural.

01:33:49.880 And then the girl does her makeup.

01:33:51.340 She's wearing makeup.

01:33:52.400 She's just blended it really well.

01:33:53.460 Or she's purchased an entirely new face.

01:33:54.660 Yeah.

01:33:54.680 It's like, I see this all the time.

01:33:56.080 Men saying like, Oh, I love a natural beauty.

01:33:57.980 And have you seen those videos of those girls being like, where's the natural beauty?

01:34:00.920 Men will tell me I'm a natural beauty and be like, she's like, I spent this much on my

01:34:05.820 chin.

01:34:06.460 I get Botox and lip injections every month.

01:34:08.760 I have fake hair, fake eyelashes.

01:34:09.860 And they will be like, Oh, you're so naturally beautiful.

01:34:11.680 But then they also get mad at you when you take care of yourself.

01:34:13.860 So it's just, you can't really win.

01:34:14.500 Well, I think it's all about the facade.

01:34:17.180 Like you have to trick a man.

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01:35:46.240 Into thinking you've done nothing.

01:35:48.400 Yeah.

01:35:48.740 I woke up like this, but it's like, no, you actually want a girl who takes care of herself.

01:35:52.420 I think most guys don't like unnatural looks.

01:35:56.240 Yeah.

01:35:56.400 And it's weird.

01:35:57.260 There's a big trend with young women getting Botox and like surgery.

01:36:00.380 Yeah.

01:36:00.660 There's one funny video where it's a 26-year-old woman with like cheek implants and like lip

01:36:04.800 fillers.

01:36:05.320 Yeah.

01:36:05.640 Freaks.

01:36:05.960 And then she made a video and she was like, how come everybody is saying that I look like

01:36:10.160 I'm 50?

01:36:10.960 Yeah.

01:36:11.100 And she has like massive lips.

01:36:11.960 Yeah.

01:36:12.160 And they're like, because only 50-year-olds get that kind of surgery to try and look young,

01:36:15.580 so they just look old.

01:36:16.300 And now you look old.

01:36:17.460 Yeah.

01:36:17.600 It's like Kylie Jenner.

01:36:18.660 Yeah.

01:36:18.800 She was a cute girl.

01:36:19.740 And she's beautiful, but she's beautiful for like a 30-year-old, but she's like 20-something

01:36:24.260 Yeah.

01:36:24.280 She looks a lot older.

01:36:25.200 She looks a lot older.

01:36:26.040 But I think that men also don't know when you do something subtle.

01:36:29.280 Like we don't, but.

01:36:30.920 Which we say we want and then we're like, oh man.

01:36:33.400 Do you guys remember the Erin Moriarty scandal thing that happened?

01:36:37.400 She's the actress from The Boys.

01:36:39.380 She plays Starlight and she posted this picture that she really looked awful.

01:36:44.200 Uh-oh.

01:36:44.840 And she said.

01:36:46.540 Like in what type of awful?

01:36:47.860 Like natural awful or like.

01:36:49.060 Or like overdone.

01:36:50.180 People thought that she got massive plastic surgery.

01:36:52.120 Oh yeah.

01:36:52.260 Like Lisa Rinna from Real Housewives.

01:36:54.300 Yeah.

01:36:54.560 So what she said was she didn't.

01:36:56.620 She said that she just got her contours done.

01:36:58.280 So it was makeup that made her face look that way.

01:37:00.720 But the most brutal thing about it was like maybe that's the case.

01:37:04.660 I would assume she probably got some plastic surgery because she didn't say she didn't.

01:37:08.120 She just said this was contours.

01:37:09.700 Yeah.

01:37:10.080 But people started posting a picture of her when she was like 18 and then a picture of her

01:37:13.740 when she was like now.

01:37:15.440 I think she's in her late 30s or whatever.

01:37:16.760 I mean, this is the girl with the buccal fat.

01:37:18.640 Yeah.

01:37:19.160 Oh yes.

01:37:19.780 Yeah.

01:37:20.000 We know it.

01:37:20.500 And so, but it was, it's so brutal because everyone's like, look how she used to look

01:37:23.780 and look how she looks now.

01:37:24.720 And it's like.

01:37:24.960 She was a child.

01:37:25.560 Yeah.

01:37:25.860 But it's just like, imagine how brutal it is for someone to be like, what did you do

01:37:29.140 to yourself?

01:37:29.620 Like I aged.

01:37:30.520 Yeah.

01:37:30.700 I aged 20 years.

01:37:31.920 Like I went in and asked someone to do this to my face because I thought it would be good.

01:37:36.360 I mean, to be fair, Kylie Jenner built a whole lip kit industry by telling people when she

01:37:41.080 was a teenager.

01:37:41.700 Over lining her lips.

01:37:42.440 Over lining her lips with makeup when actually she definitely 100% had lips.

01:37:46.040 She should be held accountable for that.

01:37:47.580 That's a crime.

01:37:48.400 That's, that's assault.

01:37:49.180 But what's scary about people like her is that she is young and a lot of her fans grew

01:37:52.980 up with her.

01:37:53.400 And now they are also getting a lot of those same procedures that she has.

01:37:56.360 And it looks weird.

01:37:56.980 And they look weird and they're going to age quicker.

01:37:59.120 And she, they don't have endless money to reverse their BBLs and all that.

01:38:03.120 Like the Kardashians do.

01:38:04.340 So I do think.

01:38:05.000 What's a BBL?

01:38:05.780 Brazilian belt lift.

01:38:06.860 Oh my God.

01:38:07.640 Like they don't have.

01:38:08.540 Come on, Tim, you gotta be up on these things.

01:38:09.800 It's the news.

01:38:10.780 But they also don't have access to the plastic surgeons that these celebrities have who are

01:38:14.600 very good at what they do.

01:38:15.840 They're very meticulous.

01:38:16.660 Like someone is just flying down to some Caribbean island for 10 grand and hoping it works out.

01:38:21.920 It's very dangerous.

01:38:22.900 I pride myself on being able to explain the intricacies of U.S. foreign policy pertaining

01:38:28.120 to the Qatar-Turkey pipeline, Burisma, Ukraine, the Russian war.

01:38:31.180 But you don't know a BBL.

01:38:32.700 And I don't know what a BBL is.

01:38:33.660 And this is why you're unrelatable.

01:38:36.560 I'll sin and fall short.

01:38:38.380 A Brazilian butt lift.

01:38:39.580 You want to know a secret about Brazil's butt exports?

01:38:44.420 The reason why Brazilian butts were so big is because poor people lived in the hills.

01:38:48.600 Like big in popularity?

01:38:49.560 No, big.

01:38:49.860 They just walked up hills.

01:38:51.380 For real.

01:38:51.660 Like in Portugal.

01:38:52.900 So Brazil is really interesting.

01:38:56.340 It's one of the few places where it's inverted and the wealthy live on the shore and the

01:39:00.780 poor live in the hills because usually it's the other way around.

01:39:03.960 And my Brazilian friend, he said, as part of like the pacification and reformation policy

01:39:09.540 for the favelas, they went with guns.

01:39:12.180 They killed a bunch of people.

01:39:12.880 They purged all the gangs and the government took over from these poor areas.

01:39:15.940 But they built chairlifts.

01:39:16.900 Like they built these big gondolas so that you can easily get to and from.

01:39:22.700 It's actually really cool.

01:39:23.600 You can go from the top of a favela to another favela.

01:39:26.220 And he was like, man, but the thing is they're getting rid of our major export men, the butts.

01:39:33.340 And he explained that for a long time the women would have to walk with their groceries up these hills and their legs and butts would get massive from it.

01:39:39.880 And now that they're all riding the gondolas, their butts are getting small.

01:39:42.400 In Canada, we have hockey butts.

01:39:44.120 Hockey butts.

01:39:44.760 You play hockey growing up and you get a nice juicy behind.

01:39:49.160 So you could be active or you could pay for it.

01:39:51.980 The opportunities are endless.

01:39:54.520 The plastic surgery stuff is terrifying.

01:39:56.420 It's awful.

01:39:57.160 Young girls getting injections.

01:39:58.740 There was a commercial we were watching.

01:40:00.600 I was watching Fox News the other day and a commercial came on for Botox.

01:40:05.320 And they're calling it baby Botox too now for people in their 20s and even younger teens.

01:40:09.840 The teenagers are getting it, yeah.

01:40:11.900 Have you heard of Sephora Kids?

01:40:13.320 Anyone?

01:40:14.080 Sephora Kids?

01:40:14.600 What is that?

01:40:15.380 Kids are basically going into Sephora and using some of those skincare products to prevent aging, which is going to ruin your skin barrier and basically make you look like an old hag.

01:40:25.640 Did you hear about the...

01:40:26.980 But they're convinced they need it.

01:40:28.100 Exactly.

01:40:28.400 That's what's so interesting is like if I don't do it while everyone else is, if it's just a little bit.

01:40:33.520 Like with all of these things, you know, it's the indulgence in material and the consumerism that comes with it.

01:40:40.520 And it's shocking because Sephora is a very expensive store.

01:40:43.420 Like it's crazy that kids' parents are even letting them go and giving them money to spend on these products.

01:40:49.200 It's insane.

01:40:50.040 Have you guys heard of this vampire facial thing?

01:40:52.100 Yes.

01:40:52.620 What is that?

01:40:53.680 Kim Kardashian has been promoting these a lot, I'm pretty sure, over the last few years.

01:40:58.200 They take your blood, put it through a centrifuge and then they take out the plasma and put it on your face.

01:41:05.340 They like inject it into your face or what?

01:41:07.240 Rub it into your face?

01:41:07.940 I think they rub it into your face.

01:41:08.960 What's that thing where they like, there's a tattoo gun on your face?

01:41:13.440 Microdermabrasion.

01:41:13.940 Oh, no, that's great.

01:41:14.440 No, that works.

01:41:14.940 That's derma rolling.

01:41:15.780 I do that.

01:41:16.100 What is that?

01:41:17.300 That's like, well, I have a little tiny device.

01:41:19.300 It's like just like little tiny needles, but they're really small if I do it at home and I just roll it on my face and it's supposed to like bring blood to the surface.

01:41:27.300 It's like you don't see blood.

01:41:28.500 It's not like that.

01:41:29.260 It's to improve circulation and to make the collagen production.

01:41:32.640 Oh, well, this lady's got HIV.

01:41:33.920 This is one of my hobbies.

01:41:35.220 Yes.

01:41:35.540 Well, that's unfortunate for her.

01:41:37.040 Did you hear about the baby penises?

01:41:38.820 The foreskin?

01:41:39.560 Oh, yeah.

01:41:39.580 Celebrities rub that on there.

01:41:42.300 Seamus was talking about this.

01:41:44.540 There was this video he made.

01:41:45.880 It's really funny about the pyramid of conspiracies made by some liberal reporter.

01:41:50.280 And one of the anti-Semitic conspiracies, because like the first one was not so bad.

01:41:54.920 The second tier is like now you're getting in the danger zone.

01:41:57.080 And the top one was the anti-Semitic point of no return.

01:41:59.680 And one of the conspiracies was baby foreskin facials.

01:42:03.560 And Seamus is just like, that's real.

01:42:06.440 Like that's not even a conspiracy.

01:42:07.660 They do that.

01:42:08.400 Yeah.

01:42:08.580 And they admit to it too.

01:42:10.280 Kate Beckinsale.

01:42:11.300 I mean, she looks good though.

01:42:12.860 Yeah.

01:42:13.100 It works, but it's creepy.

01:42:14.720 Look at this.

01:42:16.880 Oh, man.

01:42:17.520 Five years ago, I tried the foreskin facial treatment so you don't have to.

01:42:20.780 Which is before and after.

01:42:22.180 It looks terrible.

01:42:23.740 It looks bad.

01:42:24.160 It didn't work, bro.

01:42:24.920 I mean, that just might be his bad side.

01:42:26.660 No.

01:42:27.100 Or he did it on one side.

01:42:28.880 It looks like two different cameras to be honest.

01:42:30.600 He looks like he aged 10 years in between.

01:42:32.740 I mean, usually the one on the left is the before.

01:42:34.460 Yeah, usually.

01:42:35.100 Yeah, but that looks better.

01:42:36.200 It's not looking good either way.

01:42:37.600 And what happened to his chin?

01:42:39.020 Yeah, where'd it go?

01:42:39.980 Where'd it go?

01:42:40.580 I feel bad for him.

01:42:42.080 He rubbed baby foreskin on his face and then...

01:42:44.820 Seriously, which one is before and after?

01:42:47.220 Maybe it's not.

01:42:48.360 Maybe on the one side.

01:42:49.900 I mean, I think this one's where his eyes open is the after because you can see the redness

01:42:55.000 or whatever.

01:42:55.380 Like if you get a facial sometimes.

01:42:56.140 He should have waited a week before uploading that photo.

01:42:58.260 He has never done this before.

01:42:59.100 He has no idea.

01:42:59.920 Yeah.

01:43:00.320 Your skin is more sensitive after a facial, ladies.

01:43:03.280 And gents.

01:43:04.060 I mean, this is also a huge industry, right?

01:43:06.380 Oh, here you go.

01:43:06.400 Here's one.

01:43:06.780 Does the foreskin facial mark the end of the world?

01:43:09.480 Yes.

01:43:10.580 What is going on?

01:43:11.660 The beginning of the end.

01:43:13.600 Yeah, it's so...

01:43:14.040 No, thank you.

01:43:14.760 Does it like...

01:43:15.340 Of South Korean babies.

01:43:16.640 South Korean baby foreskins.

01:43:18.360 That is so gross.

01:43:19.640 Wait, what?

01:43:20.460 That's what it says.

01:43:21.220 Oh!

01:43:22.440 Like imagine circumcising your son.

01:43:24.040 A serum clone from the circumcised foreskins of South Korean babies.

01:43:25.280 This is why they want you to circumcise your kids.

01:43:27.240 They need those.

01:43:28.360 They need them.

01:43:29.740 No, I mean...

01:43:30.340 Humans are weird.

01:43:31.500 If it's super weird, this is a huge industry, right?

01:43:34.040 And obviously, like, beauty is a big part of, you know, both women judge other women by

01:43:39.060 it, but also women want to, you know...

01:43:42.120 Preserve their youth.

01:43:42.600 Preserve their youth.

01:43:43.440 They want to be attractive to men and their husbands or whatever else.

01:43:45.400 Like, I don't want to spite this in and of its face.

01:43:47.880 Like, if you are getting some sort of facial treatment, that's okay.

01:43:50.360 It's just that we have pushed the boundaries of beauty to be like, this is obviously ridiculous,

01:43:56.000 but you now feel insecure without your super bloated lips.

01:43:59.780 That's weird.

01:44:00.780 Especially because skincare in general is kind of a psyop.

01:44:04.520 Like, it doesn't actually work.

01:44:05.800 Women spend hundreds of, maybe thousands of dollars on these facial creams that don't

01:44:09.980 actually work better than drugstore products.

01:44:11.940 But yet, we've been convinced that we have to go to Sephora and spend $300 on a cream.

01:44:16.320 And often the product is owned by the same company that owns the drugstore product.

01:44:19.760 Exactly.

01:44:20.020 I'm going to, would you guys, you guys want to learn how to get rich real easy?

01:44:24.020 I'm going to help everybody listening get rich.

01:44:26.060 It's very, very simple.

01:44:27.440 So, find a white label lotion company that makes your just generic lotion and then design

01:44:35.500 a very fancy label, make the bottles very small, sell them for $20 for like two ounces

01:44:41.160 and call it like zophagia.

01:44:43.860 And then, and then you've got to use your, your elite, your terminology.

01:44:47.740 It's got to be legally sound, but exotic sounding.

01:44:52.000 So, um.

01:44:53.240 Make skin look or appear younger.

01:44:55.300 Like, that's.

01:44:56.020 And have a fun minimalist label.

01:44:57.800 If your sodium lauryl sulfate, perhaps, is manufactured in China, don't put made in China, put.

01:45:05.880 Imported ingredients is what they usually say.

01:45:08.140 Oh, no, no, no.

01:45:08.560 We can do way better than that.

01:45:09.360 Oh, we can.

01:45:09.720 We can say sourced from the exotic location of, and then try and find.

01:45:15.280 So, let me, let's, let's do this.

01:45:16.420 It's the ancient secret of the ladies of this specific province.

01:45:19.680 I've fallen for that so many times.

01:45:21.340 Oh, dude, so good, right?

01:45:22.040 So, let's, let's, let's say like in the concentration camps, uh, in Shin, what was it?

01:45:27.940 Uh, where, where, where, what are they at the concentration, concentration camps in China?

01:45:30.860 Uh, the, uh.

01:45:33.340 Why am I blanking on the name?

01:45:35.180 It starts with a U, doesn't it?

01:45:36.880 Well, that's.

01:45:37.340 No, those are weird Muslims.

01:45:38.760 The Muslims.

01:45:39.720 Yeah, it's, it's usually Shin something, but, uh, it's not Xinjiang, but all you got

01:45:45.260 to do is find like a manufacturer for one of the core ingredients, like ask the company.

01:45:49.520 So, it's this mass producing company.

01:45:51.780 They make a low quality drugstore lotion that costs a dollar.

01:45:55.280 You're going to sell it for a hundred dollars, put it in a small bottle, and then you're going

01:45:59.040 to be like, I want to know where all of the ingredients from this are sourced.

01:46:03.980 And then if they're like.

01:46:04.640 Is it the Xinjiang province?

01:46:06.360 Xinjiang.

01:46:07.020 Was it Xinjiang?

01:46:08.500 Is that what it was?

01:46:08.980 Yeah.

01:46:09.800 Look, my pronunciation here is awful, and I accept it.

01:46:13.080 Like, let's say it's made in Ukraine.

01:46:14.740 Don't say Ukraine.

01:46:16.240 Find something nearby and find an exotic name, Monkivka.

01:46:20.880 Yeah.

01:46:21.360 The rare Monkivka ingredients.

01:46:23.000 Where is this cream?

01:46:23.900 I want this cream.

01:46:25.180 Effectively, Korea did this, though, right?

01:46:27.020 Like, they created K-Beauty, which means it's just made in Korea.

01:46:30.600 Yeah.

01:46:30.760 And they're like, but it's better.

01:46:31.900 Don't you see how beautiful all of our women's skin is?

01:46:34.440 They all have plastic surgery.

01:46:35.900 Well, it's like any celebrity skincare line.

01:46:37.940 It's all coming from the same factory.

01:46:40.380 It could as well be sold at the dollar store.

01:46:42.200 But yet, they're making billions of dollars.

01:46:43.920 Like, Selena Gomez, I don't know if she's a billionaire yet, but she's set to be a billionaire

01:46:47.080 from selling skincare and makeup.

01:46:49.320 It's insane.

01:46:50.360 Her products aren't good.

01:46:51.500 And the industry doesn't slow down.

01:46:52.980 No.

01:46:53.280 It just gets more sort of insane over time.

01:46:55.360 Because every day, there's a new celebrity skincare line dropping.

01:46:57.060 And there's a new skin issue.

01:46:58.400 There's a new thing you're trying to avoid.

01:46:59.520 What you do is source the garbage ingredients and then open a bottling plant in Trois-Rivieres

01:47:09.080 in Canada.

01:47:10.460 Yeah.

01:47:10.740 But don't say Canada.

01:47:11.720 Just say Trois-Rivieres produced rare ingredients.

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01:48:44.800 Yes.

01:48:45.140 The crazy thing that I learned a long time ago, I have friends who are very rich and there's

01:48:50.400 the rich market and the poor market.

01:48:52.320 And the rich market is exactly that.

01:48:54.740 So people who are like, oh, I make $500,000 a year.

01:48:58.700 It's like doing what?

01:48:59.380 I do white label products for a handful of clients.

01:49:01.760 And I'm like, we need to get into that.

01:49:03.240 But it really is networking like, so I know someone who comes from a rich family and they

01:49:09.740 basically say, yeah, all the kids of these ultra rich families, they buy only our white

01:49:14.060 label products and they're really expensive.

01:49:15.160 It's meaningless to them.

01:49:16.220 They're not going to buy Juergens.

01:49:17.500 But basically what's the same thing for $100?

01:49:20.460 They don't care.

01:49:21.260 $100 a dollar.

01:49:22.360 They're millionaire families.

01:49:23.920 There was a video I saw recently of, so like Kim Kardashian has a shared TikTok channel

01:49:28.840 with her oldest daughter, North.

01:49:30.340 Yeah.

01:49:30.580 And they were doing some video, like they're, you know, doing a dance or whatever.

01:49:33.680 And you can see in the background, a shower that has products on the shelf.

01:49:36.860 And the person was like, let's talk about what's in the shower.

01:49:39.620 And they know it's probably North Cardass or Northwest's room.

01:49:43.820 And so they're going through and they're like, oh, so this is a $95 shampoo.

01:49:48.000 And this is a middle school age girl, right?

01:49:51.360 That's 10.

01:49:51.840 She's part of the inception of the Sephora kids because she's an influencer.

01:49:56.220 Yeah.

01:49:56.240 She posted a TikTok of her doing her skincare routine and it included like silica, like

01:50:00.780 those gel things that you put under your eyes for like wrinkles.

01:50:03.660 They're very expensive.

01:50:04.240 Like you're 12.

01:50:04.980 Yeah.

01:50:05.280 You don't have wrinkles under your eyes.

01:50:06.000 And she's apparently launching her own skincare line as well.

01:50:08.820 I think Kim Kardashian trademarked the name of it.

01:50:10.740 Well, this is the model that Kylie started, right?

01:50:13.220 Yeah.

01:50:13.280 Like create a hype around a product, make young girls think they need something, put a face to

01:50:17.940 it that they're already following and then make a billion dollars.

01:50:21.760 And again, there are things that, you know, it's easy to talk to the industry and be like,

01:50:26.940 women spend crazy amounts of money and all that stuff.

01:50:28.800 There are all kinds of things that men get excited about and spend tons of money on too.

01:50:32.440 The thing is, this just changes so rapidly.

01:50:35.840 And it's always, it's an insatiable desire to constantly be like, but maybe if I get a

01:50:40.780 vampire facial, this thing that I feel insecure about will go away.

01:50:43.840 I think where we're headed is just robots.

01:50:47.160 I mean, you could understand why in-cell men are like, it's easier to have a robot girlfriend

01:50:51.300 because it's too hard to understand women because they're constantly emotional and changing

01:50:55.440 their mind.

01:50:55.900 I don't think that's a good response.

01:50:57.540 I think that's a very one-sided selfish relationship.

01:51:00.060 But those guys are robosexual.

01:51:02.220 Yeah.

01:51:02.540 It's also tricky right now.

01:51:03.700 We talked about this, I think last week on the show about how dating is really tricky

01:51:08.320 right now too, because women can do everything themselves.

01:51:10.280 They can go to a sperm bank and make a baby by themselves.

01:51:13.240 They are financially stable.

01:51:14.520 Some of them are more successful than men.

01:51:16.440 They own property.

01:51:17.840 So I think it's very confusing for men in that situation because women are like, I actually

01:51:22.240 don't need you anymore.

01:51:23.320 I can do it all by myself.

01:51:24.720 It's such a dark time where women are like, I don't need you.

01:51:27.500 And it's like, we do though.

01:51:28.840 We need each other.

01:51:29.860 On one hand, you have these in-cell men who are not doing anything fruitful for themselves

01:51:33.520 or society.

01:51:34.300 And then on one hand, you have women who are also contributing to this issue by being strong,

01:51:38.520 independent women.

01:51:39.460 Yes.

01:51:39.720 Fem-cells.

01:51:40.340 Sure.

01:51:41.200 Yeah.

01:51:41.520 But they're not creepy though.

01:51:43.320 I think we over-marketed independence to women.

01:51:45.560 I blame feminism for this.

01:51:46.960 But as a country, yes, we wanted independence from the British.

01:51:50.960 It's a good thing.

01:51:51.900 And I think being capable and able to take care of yourself is not a bad thing.

01:51:57.880 It's not a bad thing.

01:51:59.020 I think what it became is like, you should reject everyone around you.

01:52:02.160 I mean, the same women that are like, I'm a strong, independent woman are often the ones

01:52:05.780 that are like, you know, they don't want to participate in social activities.

01:52:11.100 They are, it's sort of a withdrawing from everything.

01:52:13.560 A lot of this ends at the devotion to work and job and seeking affirmation through professional

01:52:17.520 accomplishments.

01:52:18.260 But it's not a long-term rewarding mentality to have, right?

01:52:25.320 Like people are drawn together for a reason and they're like, you said your husband likes

01:52:29.560 to spend all day playing guitar, but he still got married.

01:52:33.020 Like he still like obviously dated you.

01:52:35.080 He wants to be with you.

01:52:36.240 Humans are designed to come together and instead we're sort of replacing these in weird, extreme

01:52:41.300 ways, right?

01:52:42.000 And yet somehow everyone's miserable.

01:52:43.600 Right.

01:52:43.820 You could have a million followers on Instagram, but also never go out to dinner with a friend

01:52:47.720 and never have any meaningful conversation.

01:52:49.380 But you're strong, independent, and you're making lots of money, but you're completely lonely

01:52:53.360 and isolated where we're headed is living in the pods and eating the bugs.

01:52:57.620 And I'll, but I'll, but I'll, I'll start from where we are.

01:53:00.440 I remember being on Facebook when it first started and seeing photos of the other people

01:53:05.880 in like my peer group.

01:53:07.120 And they've got these cool photos where they're like looking at the camera and they're in the

01:53:10.300 city and there's lights on a rooftop.

01:53:12.180 And I'm like, man, like, what am I doing sitting in my computer room?

01:53:15.660 Remember computer rooms, by the way.

01:53:16.940 And the reality was highlight reels and people had brought it up.

01:53:20.300 They were like, dude, you realize you, you go hang out with, I would go hang out with

01:53:24.560 my friends.

01:53:25.600 And most of the day is like sitting around waiting.

01:53:27.760 Then we go up to the rooftop bar.

01:53:29.400 We have a drink and we leave in 20 minutes, but that photo, and it looks so cool.

01:53:33.960 And so now we're at the point where, and this has been going on for a decade.

01:53:37.120 Now it's getting worse.

01:53:38.420 People would make fake photos.

01:53:40.100 They wouldn't like influencers would intentionally, they're buying, they're renting private jets

01:53:44.140 so they can board the jet, look around and then leave right away.

01:53:47.220 It's the same as going on vacation.

01:53:49.420 These women who seem to be chronically traveling, these influencers, they're actually going to

01:53:53.480 one destination, bringing a million outfits and just taking them at different spots in

01:53:57.180 Mexico.

01:53:58.060 And it's, it's completely a lie.

01:53:59.940 Or there's green screens.

01:54:01.360 Yeah.

01:54:01.680 Or that.

01:54:02.220 And now the best part is that some of them don't even exist.

01:54:04.660 Right.

01:54:05.180 You're getting a lot of AI women.

01:54:07.380 Making you feel bad.

01:54:08.680 The creepy thing is like watching the advent of AI content on Instagram, you can actually

01:54:15.200 see the early like crappy AI and you're like, well, that's clearly AI, but you, you see comments

01:54:21.840 on it and there are boomer guys being like, you're so beautiful.

01:54:24.780 I love you.

01:54:25.600 And I'm like, they don't even realize what they're looking at.

01:54:28.760 And that's sad.

01:54:30.420 Yeah.

01:54:30.800 Yeah.

01:54:31.060 Some like old lonely guys.

01:54:32.780 So scary.

01:54:33.160 The creepy thing is there's some like, there's either, uh, I can be insulting and say it's

01:54:39.140 a fat dude with sweaty armpits and mustard stains being, you know, posting these photos

01:54:42.380 being like, Oh, how are you doing?

01:54:44.440 The reality is it's a guy in a suit with a bunch of employees and he's like, I want to

01:54:48.960 see engagement up 7%.

01:54:50.400 Are you responding to these guys?

01:54:52.080 Say that you want to bang them or something like that.

01:54:53.860 Let's get those numbers up.

01:54:54.740 Everybody let's go.

01:54:56.580 Imagine an office and you know, they exist where there's a guy in a suit.

01:55:00.200 He walks in and there's 12 guys at computers and they're each running 15 different profiles

01:55:04.900 of fake women, sexting guys and other weird, creepy stuff.

01:55:09.300 Very gay.

01:55:10.180 It's very, it's very, it's very, it's very, doesn't matter, makes money.

01:55:13.200 Yeah.

01:55:13.720 I've heard that like a lot of the time when there is a real woman doing like cam stuff

01:55:17.220 that there's a man doing the chat because the man knows what a man wants to hear more

01:55:21.600 than a girl.

01:55:22.100 So it's like, uh, uh, we had, um, Ari Jacob on and she's, she was talking about seeing these

01:55:28.500 influencers and how they operate and there will be like a female influencer on Instagram

01:55:32.100 or OnlyFans, but before OnlyFans Instagram, she walks in, she poses for the photo and leaves

01:55:37.680 and then the staff takes care of everything else, responding to comments, messaging people

01:55:41.620 and it's all a team of guys.

01:55:43.240 I think they should go to jail for that.

01:55:45.060 Who?

01:55:45.960 OnlyFans specifically.

01:55:47.440 Like the whole team, her, the men involved.

01:55:49.880 The woman who's selling a product where she says for 10 bucks a month, I will chat with you.

01:55:55.780 Fraud.

01:55:56.500 She should be arrested and charged with fraud.

01:55:58.080 Just her though?

01:55:58.880 Like what about the whole team that's like supporting this fraud?

01:56:02.720 Fraud would like, if, if, uh, if I tell people I've got a youth serum and I'm going to, you

01:56:09.920 know, if, if you drink it, you'll get younger, but really it's doing nothing.

01:56:13.000 I'm defrauding you.

01:56:13.940 The guy who's pouring the stuff in the bottle in the factory has no idea what's going on.

01:56:16.860 So the fraud would be the person.

01:56:18.120 It's false advertising to your point.

01:56:20.000 This is fraud.

01:56:20.900 Yeah.

01:56:21.140 False advertising would be like, if, if you, I don't know how you get to false advertising

01:56:26.300 on, on OnlyFans.

01:56:28.800 False advertising is when like the picture of the cheeseburger doesn't match the product.

01:56:31.960 Sure.

01:56:32.600 Uh, fraud would be more like you spend $10 to come into the building.

01:56:37.400 It's actually, no.

01:56:38.480 She's saying like spend $10 and you get to talk to me for, right.

01:56:41.480 Tricking you into giving up your money.

01:56:42.780 You're talking to some guy.

01:56:43.620 I mean, that is like, OnlyFans is super interesting though, because the whole thing would be completely

01:56:49.040 eradicated if men stopped paying for it.

01:56:51.220 Yeah.

01:56:51.860 I think there are men who would find out it's a man they're talking to and like shove it

01:56:56.060 down.

01:56:56.460 Because that created a fantasy about this girl.

01:56:59.440 It's not just that they'll talk to robots.

01:57:02.520 Right.

01:57:02.860 Like, so the funny thing is, this would be a great skit for Seamus or something.

01:57:08.340 Or us.

01:57:09.400 Or you guys.

01:57:10.040 Yeah, there you go.

01:57:10.540 A guy on OnlyFans and then he reads a news report that it's like, he's following a woman

01:57:15.280 and we'll call her like, you know, Candy Sarah or whatever.

01:57:18.240 And he's like, yeah, she's great.

01:57:19.320 And she's texting him.

01:57:20.640 She's like, you're so awesome.

01:57:21.500 I love you.

01:57:22.040 You're so sexy.

01:57:22.820 Like, blah, blah, blah.

01:57:23.880 And he's like, yeah.

01:57:24.080 But it's Harvey Weinstein.

01:57:25.360 But then like he gets a notification and it's like breaking news.

01:57:28.520 Candy, you know, Candy Sarah is actually a guy.

01:57:31.560 And then he thinks about it and he's like, you're so sexy.

01:57:35.680 I love you.

01:57:36.500 Yeah.

01:57:37.220 Like, if the guys are willing to talk to robots, I really don't think they're going to care

01:57:40.420 if it's a guy talking to them either.

01:57:41.700 They just want the fantasy.

01:57:43.160 Isn't it sort of the same thing as like what we started talking about, but why women are

01:57:47.060 voting in these policies that are so detrimental to them.

01:57:50.160 It's the same sort of thing.

01:57:51.300 It's just like cognitive dissonance.

01:57:53.320 Can't say that word.

01:57:54.160 Dissidence.

01:57:54.620 Dissidence where you're like, I know this is bad for me, but it's part of this fantasy

01:57:59.080 where it's like, I don't really care.

01:58:01.180 Like I'm living in my own little fantasy world here and I'm fine with it.

01:58:04.600 Well, it's like how it makes them feel.

01:58:06.380 Plus it's like temporary satisfaction for a permanent problem.

01:58:08.940 It's the same thing.

01:58:09.980 Yeah.

01:58:10.160 With guys, it's like, oh, well, in my mind, it's just a girl who's really attractive.

01:58:15.260 So I'm going to pretend it's not a man and I'm going to continue to feel like she wants

01:58:18.900 me.

01:58:19.300 And, you know, it's going to build my ego.

01:58:20.660 With women voting for policies that even though they are paying the price and the consequences

01:58:26.420 for them, they're like, but I'm a good person.

01:58:29.400 I'm voting for hope.

01:58:31.640 I'm voting for change.

01:58:32.940 I'm with her.

01:58:34.080 And that's good to be with people.

01:58:35.660 Like they are sold these slogans and it makes them feel as though they are, they are the

01:58:39.940 victors.

01:58:40.360 They are part of something.

01:58:41.400 Right.

01:58:41.780 And like, it's the same thing.

01:58:42.820 It reminds me of when people like talk about getting vaccinated, right?

01:58:46.440 And being like, oh, well, I wouldn't let my, my in-laws meet the baby until they ensured

01:58:50.280 me they were vaccinated.

01:58:51.280 Like, because I'm so good and I'm so protective and whatever else.

01:58:54.340 It's preying on an instinct that women naturally have and some of the anxieties and neuroses

01:58:58.680 that women naturally occur to, but taking them to a really warped, terrible perspective

01:59:04.140 and telling them to ignore the fact that there are consequences because they don't want to

01:59:08.020 be wrong.

01:59:08.680 No one wants to be wrong in these scenarios.

01:59:10.860 And it's the same as preying on someone's manipulating them and preying on their emotion.

01:59:15.180 Men get manipulated through their dicks.

01:59:18.000 Like, yeah.

01:59:18.540 And their ego.

01:59:19.120 Right.

01:59:19.360 If you think the, like, hot OnlyFans chick, like, oh, well, her staff is talking to everybody

01:59:24.200 else, but she's talking to me for sure.

01:59:26.100 She likes me the most.

01:59:26.660 She likes me the most.

01:59:27.700 The stripper doesn't like you guys.

01:59:30.580 But that also happened in the movie Her with Joaquin Phoenix, where she, where he discovers

01:59:34.620 that the AI girlfriend that he has is actually talking and in love, allegedly in love, with

01:59:38.880 multiple other partners.

01:59:39.940 Like what, the toaster or something?

01:59:41.580 Sorry?

01:59:42.060 The toaster or something?

01:59:43.240 His phone, right?

01:59:43.880 Was it his phone?

01:59:44.700 Yeah, it was his phone.

01:59:44.980 I didn't see the movie.

01:59:45.600 Yeah.

01:59:45.840 You should see it.

01:59:46.500 It's very timely.

01:59:47.280 I saw it.

01:59:47.800 It's really funny.

01:59:48.380 His cinematography is beautiful.

01:59:50.420 But there's also, like.

01:59:51.540 But does he stay?

01:59:51.980 Does he go like, that's fine?

01:59:53.120 No.

01:59:53.600 No, he breaks up with her.

01:59:54.620 They break up.

01:59:55.500 Yeah.

01:59:55.620 And it's, and she's sad and he's sad, but also she's not real.

01:59:59.400 She's not real.

02:00:00.060 She's not real.

02:00:00.220 She's not sad.

02:00:00.880 He also has an ex-wife.

02:00:01.960 It's a whole thing.

02:00:02.580 But the score is by Arcade Fire.

02:00:04.120 So, yeah, maybe listen to it.

02:00:05.180 I like that movie, I forgot what it's called, where this guy finds out he's a robot.

02:00:10.140 The wife and the husband copied their brains so that in the event one of them died,

02:00:14.440 they could.

02:00:14.740 Oh, the island.

02:00:16.060 No, no, no.

02:00:16.760 No, that was a clone one.

02:00:18.020 Oh, okay.

02:00:18.540 There's one where it's, I forgot the actor's name.

02:00:20.920 He's in, he's in a bunch of movies.

02:00:22.700 What is his name?

02:00:23.100 Anyway, he realizes he's a robot and then they're like, yeah, you're actually a downloaded

02:00:27.340 copy of the actual husband who died and she's decided it was a mistake and she doesn't

02:00:31.380 want to be with you.

02:00:32.000 And he's like, but I'm alive.

02:00:33.100 Like, what am I supposed to do?

02:00:34.400 So then he kills her and downloads her brain into a body so that he's with a robot version.

02:00:39.400 I kind of feel like that's where it's all going.

02:00:41.060 Like the AI will just, you know, take over and remove the organic components.

02:00:45.740 That's terrifying.

02:00:46.680 I think that's sad.

02:00:47.340 I think we should want the organic components of everything.

02:00:49.680 Well, that's the way God designed it.

02:00:51.620 Yeah.

02:00:51.960 Somebody.

02:00:52.200 But I think part of it is that people don't want to have to accept that other people

02:00:57.680 have false flaws in their own thoughts and opinions.

02:01:00.120 Like part of this on-demand culture or like I want it this way is it makes it easier to

02:01:05.820 say like with women, it's fault finding.

02:01:07.540 And I know a lot of girls who, you know, maybe they should, maybe they shouldn't, but every

02:01:10.720 single guy they date, they're like, but he doesn't do this thing.

02:01:13.200 And I actually want someone who wants this.

02:01:14.660 And, you know, you should be discerning.

02:01:16.280 You should be critical.

02:01:17.500 But if you're going to think ultimately every man is a failure for any tiny flaw, you're

02:01:21.560 going to be alone.

02:01:22.260 Yes.

02:01:22.420 And with men, if you aren't willing to sort of do the emotional labor of connecting with

02:01:26.140 a woman, then you're never really going to experience that type of love and commitment.

02:01:30.220 You can't just have it be like, well, I want her to be a man except also have boobs.

02:01:34.380 Like at that point, either you need the AI or you just want to date a man.

02:01:37.320 Well, it's like dating apps make dating way too easy.

02:01:39.480 So you have, you think you have endless options.

02:01:41.200 For sure.

02:01:41.700 We've talked about this too.

02:01:42.340 It's like, it sounds bad.

02:01:43.600 It's like, you need to lower your standards a little bit and realize like you are flawed.

02:01:46.840 They're flawed.

02:01:47.400 One thing we always address is like, if you're in a relationship, someone is choosing you

02:01:51.240 too, but everyone always thinks that, oh no, I'm choosing you, but no, you're being chosen

02:01:54.980 as well.

02:01:55.680 And I think that that's something that's been lost in, in dating culture.

02:01:59.180 I think for a lot of guys, they just need to, actually, I'll put it this way.

02:02:03.720 There's a really funny, uh, 4chan green text meme.

02:02:06.760 Do you guys know what green texts are?

02:02:07.960 Nope.

02:02:08.100 Uh, so basically it's just a point by point story and one guy is like, be fat, neat, not,

02:02:14.580 not, you know, meaning not in employment, education or training.

02:02:16.860 They're like lazy, lay about, live with parents, decide one day to start going for walks, start

02:02:21.420 feeling better, getting in shape, decide to find a job, find a job, go to the gym, meet

02:02:25.760 a bunch of guys who started encouraging me and helping me start lifting weights, getting

02:02:28.920 fit.

02:02:29.660 They asked me to go out to grab drinks with them later, meet, meet a girl, have a girlfriend.

02:02:33.400 Holy crap.

02:02:34.220 This was so easy.

02:02:34.920 You guys lied to me.

02:02:36.460 It's like there, have you guys seen the viral video of the guy who's just like a day in

02:02:40.500 the life and it's like, I wake up, I go to work and then they're attacking him for it.

02:02:44.700 And his life seems very content.

02:02:46.860 He married his high school sweetheart.

02:02:48.200 They're about to have a kid.

02:02:49.140 What a loser.

02:02:49.920 He, he, he goes to work, he comes home, he works out.

02:02:52.120 He, like, it looks very stable, relaxing, calm, routine, like the, the envy of so many others.

02:02:58.920 Someone posted like, this is the most disturbing video I've ever seen.

02:03:02.300 I think it's jealousy.

02:03:03.420 Of course.

02:03:04.640 Stability, comfort, family.

02:03:05.240 Do you think that man's happily married with a like big boobie lady and 20 kids?

02:03:09.840 And making babies?

02:03:10.340 No.

02:03:10.860 Well, and I think that there was a time when a lot of people were like, I don't want

02:03:13.180 what my parents have.

02:03:13.960 Like, I don't want to live in the suburbs.

02:03:15.100 I'm going to be edgy.

02:03:15.740 I'm going to be cool.

02:03:16.300 I'm going to live in these artsy ways and do whatever.

02:03:18.080 And it's like, so what?

02:03:19.240 You're broke and miserable and have five roommates?

02:03:21.060 It's like, I'm sorry, I would just rather be married in a suburb with kids and be able

02:03:25.360 to do cool things and travel and have someone who I feel like I really understand and connect

02:03:29.240 with than be like, I'm just not like my parents.

02:03:31.840 Like, get over your childhood trauma.

02:03:33.480 You're not 15 anymore.

02:03:34.000 How did this happen?

02:03:34.800 I mean, the idea that kids were like, I am terrified to end up living in a house with

02:03:42.300 2.5 kids and a white picket fence.

02:03:44.140 Why?

02:03:44.920 What happened culturally where they were like, I don't want to be like that.

02:03:48.320 Probably universities somewhat.

02:03:49.660 Yeah, like pop culture said, it's not cool.

02:03:52.420 You want to be the single bachelor rock star doing drugs.

02:03:56.160 And to tie this all up, Taylor Swift is predicted to lead a baby boom in this country if she

02:04:00.800 marries the hunky football player.

02:04:02.100 That's what we're hoping for.

02:04:02.940 Where are they both from?

02:04:04.120 Stable Midwestern states or at least Ohio.

02:04:06.240 Why are conservatives mad at Taylor Swift?

02:04:08.340 It doesn't make any sense.

02:04:09.960 I think it, I don't, yeah, she's completely inoffensive.

02:04:12.940 And I, like I said earlier, Swiftian normality, we need to embrace her.

02:04:16.180 She's, and it's funny because we've talked about this on our show a lot, but everyone

02:04:19.680 is going crazy for Sydney Sweeney and they're like, oh, you know, wokeism is over.

02:04:24.300 She has tits.

02:04:25.560 But it's like, it's like, okay, well, tits have always been around guys, but, but it's

02:04:31.060 like, we're destroying the woke mind with the tits.

02:04:33.340 But it's like, meanwhile, they're mad at Taylor Swift for being unmarried despite wanting

02:04:37.280 to and wanting to have children.

02:04:38.380 If you've listened to her new album, she's clearly, she wants to have babies.

02:04:42.140 She wants to just be a normal girl, you know, within reason.

02:04:44.500 What is she saying?

02:04:45.160 She, she, one of her lines in her songs about like the loss of my life is like, you talked

02:04:49.360 me under the table, talking rings and talking cradles.

02:04:51.940 Like, because she was in this six year relationship with a guy who was slightly younger than her.

02:04:55.440 He made her a forever girlfriend.

02:04:56.840 Yeah.

02:04:57.180 Leaving me at the altar.

02:04:58.160 And this is a reality for women.

02:04:59.700 Like, yes, any guy could do this to you, but that also is a responsibility to men.

02:05:03.680 Like get into relationships with intention.

02:05:05.580 Don't just like hang out and be like, well, that is the side effect of hookup culture.

02:05:10.120 Because everyone thinks they have endless time.

02:05:11.880 You can get all kinds of emotional support and sexual gratification from the internet.

02:05:15.540 I'm curious your guys' thought on this.

02:05:16.800 I believe that.

02:05:18.080 So right now what we're seeing is young men are skewing Republican.

02:05:20.880 It's like this trend is happening everywhere.

02:05:23.340 South Korea, predominantly in the United States, young women are going left.

02:05:27.140 Young men are going right.

02:05:28.180 I think in 10 years, many of these women are going to do a whiplash straight to the right.

02:05:34.100 And the reason is women have a biological lock.

02:05:38.120 Men don't.

02:05:39.280 So the guys who are conservative have no pressure to adhere to a social norm to get what they want.

02:05:45.220 They can be 60 years old and have a kid if they want.

02:05:47.620 Well, if sperm health continues to be like.

02:05:50.400 That is true.

02:05:51.020 Because we have heard a lot of stuff about how that's not really doing so well.

02:05:54.480 But at the very least, guys don't have the hormonal nor the social pressure.

02:05:58.960 We have a hard cutoff.

02:06:00.100 Yeah.

02:06:00.220 And I think women feel the desire to have children before men start to feel the desire

02:06:04.940 to have children.

02:06:05.340 Baby fever.

02:06:06.140 What I think is going to happen is around the age where millennial, it's already happening

02:06:10.720 for millennial women.

02:06:11.660 I don't know that they're going to start turning conservative.

02:06:13.740 But I think the younger generation, these women are going to have, they're going to be

02:06:17.940 on dating apps.

02:06:18.800 They're going to be like 30 or 1 or 32.

02:06:20.860 And they're going to be like, I need to start, I need to have a family if I'm going to have

02:06:23.100 a family now.

02:06:23.940 They're going to meet a guy who's same age.

02:06:25.620 And he's going to say, you're like, oh, I voted for Trump.

02:06:28.080 I voted for Trump Jr.

02:06:29.100 And now I'm voting for Barron or whatever, whoever, like however long this is.

02:06:32.260 You know, it's going to be like 20 years from now.

02:06:33.960 And then if they say, yeah, no, I'm not a conservative.

02:06:38.920 I'm not interested.

02:06:39.520 Have a nice day.

02:06:40.180 The guy's going to be like, bye.

02:06:41.500 And they're going to be like, crap, crap, crap.

02:06:43.460 All of these guys are conservative leaning and they're going to have to settle.

02:06:47.900 So, but the thing is, that guy is not going to have to settle.

02:06:50.640 The guy is going to be like, look, I'm not interested in being with a progressive.

02:06:53.340 Thank you and have a nice day.

02:06:54.160 So these women are going to either pretend or be forced to shift and be like, no, I'm

02:06:58.560 totally fine with Trump.

02:06:59.500 He was cool because they have a time constraint.

02:07:03.600 The men don't.

02:07:05.040 Or they just like live in their fantasy to the grave.

02:07:08.460 Like they're just like, no, no, I don't need it.

02:07:09.980 Like I hear what you're saying, but there's some women that are going to be so stubborn.

02:07:13.020 Women are surprisingly stubborn.

02:07:14.540 Yeah.

02:07:14.760 I think the real metric for what you're saying would be when fewer, when men defect from

02:07:19.480 the Democratic Party, right?

02:07:20.580 When men, when even more men start to become conservative.

02:07:23.360 Like you're saying, we're starting to see those younger generations definitely happening

02:07:25.940 among men because women do go where the men are.

02:07:29.640 But in this case, we, I think a lot of people believe the reason that there are so many male

02:07:33.880 feminists is because they're ultimately trying to get a girl.

02:07:36.160 I mean, they stop identifying that way.

02:07:38.200 That's the sign that they're like, actually, if we just hold strong to conservative values,

02:07:41.560 they'll come to us.

02:07:42.460 But it's, it's, I don't, it's not going to be absolute.

02:07:43.940 So there's certainly going to be male feminists forever.

02:07:46.200 And there'll be many women who are like, I would rather live with eight cats than ever.

02:07:49.880 But I think, I think biology is going to have a massive impact.

02:07:55.200 Guys don't have that pressure and women do.

02:07:57.660 So if what we're seeing right now with these younger women skewing left, a lot of it's

02:08:02.180 probably social pressure.

02:08:03.540 Well, eventually social pressure is going to be like, I want to have a family.

02:08:06.280 I don't care about anything else.

02:08:07.340 And they're going to say, this is stupid.

02:08:09.020 I don't care.

02:08:09.680 I'll say whatever.

02:08:10.240 However, a lot of the women will just be like, no, I'm a, I'm a feminist and always

02:08:13.460 will be.

02:08:13.800 I'm a, I'm a progressive.

02:08:14.820 And then they'll live with eight cats.

02:08:16.380 To be fair though.

02:08:16.940 A lot of women are also under the impression that they can freeze their eggs and that they

02:08:21.060 do have forever.

02:08:22.040 Even though we know a lot of those systems and like treatments and fertility treatments

02:08:26.680 are kind of quite faulty.

02:08:28.040 Like they still believe in, have hope in that.

02:08:30.140 Did you, did you see the story of the woman who was featured on the cover of that magazine?

02:08:33.560 Woman was featured on the cover of a magazine and she's like, I'm a girl boss.

02:08:36.920 I'm freezing my eggs.

02:08:38.020 And then she, they were all not viable.

02:08:39.620 Yeah.

02:08:40.180 They, they, all the eggs were viable.

02:08:41.960 And then she said, like, I fell to the ground and screamed and groaned.

02:08:44.840 I will never be a mother.

02:08:45.860 I'm like, that's terrifying.

02:08:46.820 This is why I raised the question of short-term versus long-term thinking, right?

02:08:50.820 Like women are constantly told like, and men too, but in this case it's women being like,

02:08:54.900 well, if you just freeze your eggs right now in the future, you can deal with it and

02:08:58.040 it'll be fine.

02:08:58.560 But IVS is not a guarantee.

02:09:00.220 It's incredibly expensive, extremely taxing on the body.

02:09:02.840 And even then you don't know for sure what's going to happen.

02:09:05.900 And that's why, again, at the top of the show, I asked like, do you think women are

02:09:08.620 short-term or long-term thinkers?

02:09:10.120 I think women do think long-term in parts because they biologically bear children, right?

02:09:15.020 So they have to think about like, what am I going to have for dinner tonight when these

02:09:18.540 kids come home?

02:09:19.280 Also, where are we going to send them to school?

02:09:20.860 And also they're thinking longer down the road.

02:09:22.420 In a culture where you encourage women to not have children and not think about the future,

02:09:26.380 why wouldn't they become short-term thinkers?

02:09:28.020 Why wouldn't they think about the immediate, like, well, I'll just defer this problem.

02:09:31.260 I'll freeze my eggs and I'll meet a man later and I'll work with my career.

02:09:34.420 Especially because it's so mainstream and you hear every celebrity is talking about

02:09:37.600 IVF and they're publicizing it.

02:09:39.380 And doctors won't lie to your face.

02:09:39.920 Of course they will.

02:09:40.720 Because it's a very lucrative industry.

02:09:42.220 We just talked about a woman who lost like $164,000 undergoing like IVF to try to have

02:09:47.960 a baby on her own.

02:09:48.900 And she kept losing the baby and now she's childless, but she's in the hole $200,000.

02:09:54.380 But even in the article, she said, I never really thought about having a long-term partner,

02:09:59.140 but I always knew I wanted to be a parent.

02:10:01.040 It's like, problem.

02:10:02.100 Yeah.

02:10:02.320 Well, you shouldn't be bringing a child into the world without a father.

02:10:04.820 Right there.

02:10:05.220 Like, what do you think you can just play God and cheat and do a Frankenstein?

02:10:08.640 And what is your resistance to long-term commitment?

02:10:10.840 Like, why are we so afraid of things that are stable and solid forever?

02:10:14.860 What is this?

02:10:15.720 And again, we've talked about it a little bit today, but like the idea that there's always

02:10:19.300 another product, that there's another swipe on the dating app, there's always something

02:10:22.800 else.

02:10:23.300 Like that mindset is so toxic, I think, to women.

02:10:26.280 But it does make them want to rally around these institutions that say, no, no, just

02:10:31.180 think about now, just think about self-indulgence.

02:10:33.120 And that's where I think they are drawn to left-leaning political parties that sell them

02:10:38.120 now as opposed to forever.

02:10:39.500 Yeah.

02:10:39.680 But it's because that is the cool thing in the media.

02:10:42.880 Like you're told you don't need to think about a family.

02:10:45.540 You can defer, defer, defer, but you don't like, so that's why we need culture.

02:10:49.720 And we talked about this a million times, like conservatives need to rebrand and get in on the culture

02:10:53.700 war and like have a, have a cool presence to be like, Hey, it's actually, because how

02:10:58.360 else are you going to win women over?

02:10:59.300 You do have a biological clock.

02:11:00.460 It's not the end of the world.

02:11:01.480 But not by screaming at them and yelling at them and telling them they're stupid.

02:11:05.140 Yeah.

02:11:05.320 Bake some sourdough, bitch.

02:11:06.800 Don't wear leggings.

02:11:07.500 Like you have to make it fun and cool and appeal to their emotions.

02:11:10.420 Yeah.

02:11:10.440 It's like make baby showers great again.

02:11:12.600 We always hear like women are in isolation when they have kids.

02:11:14.880 And then it's like, but make celebrating having kids fun.

02:11:17.740 Can you pull the story up?

02:11:19.040 This is, uh, the tragic truth about freezing your eggs from Evie and the story actually

02:11:23.100 goes back to like 2018 and 2015 on the cover of Bloomberg business week, freeze your eggs,

02:11:28.260 free your career.

02:11:29.720 Bridget Adams, this woman freed her career, froze her eggs and they all failed.

02:11:34.680 And, uh, they said in the story that she screamed like a wild animal when she realized, I just

02:11:39.540 want to say like, I can't imagine the gut wrenching pain of you thinking you're like, I want to

02:11:48.720 have a family.

02:11:49.320 I want to have kids.

02:11:50.440 I can postpone it.

02:11:51.520 If I freeze my eggs and then finding out at 45, it will never happen.

02:11:56.800 So you were, you're, you're, you're sitting there thinking for like 10 years.

02:12:00.020 Yeah.

02:12:00.380 As soon as I'm ready, I will.

02:12:01.820 And then they're like, okay, let's unfreeze your eggs.

02:12:03.200 Oh, and they all failed.

02:12:04.040 You will never be a mother.

02:12:05.140 That's it.

02:12:05.560 That's the end of your genetic line.

02:12:07.140 That's just like, it's so sad, but it also happens to women of any age really, because

02:12:11.700 having a child is a privilege, not a right.

02:12:14.200 Like we, we all think, we hope we can be the ones to get pregnant, but not every woman

02:12:18.820 can.

02:12:19.160 And that's kind of just like roll of the dice.

02:12:21.340 And you don't know until you start trying.

02:12:22.580 Exactly.

02:12:23.260 And it can be just as tragic for someone who's like, I'm 25, I'm married, I'm doing everything

02:12:26.920 right.

02:12:27.240 I'm a good Christian, whatever, unvaccinated, whatever you want.

02:12:29.920 But it's like, you still, it's like, he's still not happening for you.

02:12:32.880 That's the other thing too, about like the internet and you're saying, don't be mean to

02:12:35.320 people.

02:12:36.020 There are a lot of people online who will like tweet at women saying like, have kids, why aren't

02:12:39.100 you having kids?

02:12:39.580 And like, I'm sure a portion of those women aren't going to publicly say that they're unable

02:12:43.540 to have kids, but man, it must be like getting stabbed in the heart every time someone says

02:12:46.920 that to you.

02:12:47.440 Like you got to be careful.

02:12:49.140 Or, or a woman like my hairdresser, she, um, adopted her children because she could have

02:12:54.580 children, but her husband couldn't.

02:12:56.160 She's not going to leave him and find someone new.

02:12:58.440 She didn't want to go sperm donor route.

02:12:59.900 Exactly.

02:13:00.640 So she's like, this is what we're doing.

02:13:02.820 Yeah.

02:13:03.160 I think it's, it's hard.

02:13:04.200 And I, I understand that there is, um, an economic pressure for women to work, right?

02:13:11.120 Like this is the reality, especially in America.

02:13:12.960 Especially if you live in Canada.

02:13:13.540 Yeah.

02:13:13.760 Canada's even worse.

02:13:14.820 But on the other hand, I think you don't have to only prioritize your career.

02:13:20.440 This is, and I think men and women are guilty of this.

02:13:23.160 And again, it creates this, this permanent adolescence, right?

02:13:26.400 If you, especially when you have these generations, like times are tough, but you have more free income

02:13:31.200 than you did when you were younger and you just kind of hang out, like why not only think

02:13:35.180 about the now as opposed to like, well, like I just had a conversation with a friend who

02:13:39.140 told me, you know, she's in a serious relationship to talk about getting married and stuff.

02:13:42.620 And she said, well, I'm nervous to become a mom, but I know I definitely want to be

02:13:46.760 done having kids in the next 10 years.

02:13:49.440 And when you start to work backwards, like, oh, well, if you want to have multiple children,

02:13:52.400 you probably want to start by now.

02:13:53.600 And if you want to be married for a year before you, like there are ways to start thinking

02:13:57.000 like these things are in your actionable future, as opposed to something we just defer forever.

02:14:03.200 And that's, that's what's sad about this for your career thing.

02:14:05.780 Like don't fall for it.

02:14:06.900 Don't fall for it.

02:14:07.500 Also, like when I was growing up, my dad was like, have you ever thought about being

02:14:10.920 a nurse?

02:14:11.400 Have you ever thought of being a nurse?

02:14:12.260 I never, I don't have, I'm not, it's not for me.

02:14:14.380 But his point was basically like, you could be a nurse for a while.

02:14:17.780 You get married, you can have some kids.

02:14:18.880 And then nurses have all kinds of different work environments.

02:14:21.520 And you could work 12 hour shifts at a time.

02:14:23.000 You could work at a school.

02:14:24.120 You could do this.

02:14:25.100 Like they make great moms too.

02:14:26.300 They make great moms.

02:14:27.380 You know, a lot of stuff.

02:14:28.480 It's applicable.

02:14:29.200 Like there are careers that allow you to be a family and you can work for companies that

02:14:34.360 are supportive of you having families instead of it being like, just pretend you're functionally

02:14:39.060 a man, freeze your eggs and push, push, push, push, push.

02:14:41.580 And then when you're 40, 45, 50, think about having kids.

02:14:44.720 Like that's not natural.

02:14:45.800 And that's not actually a fulfilling life.

02:14:47.700 No.

02:14:47.880 And then there's the whole pay gap thing where it's like, obviously there's the lie part of

02:14:52.060 it where they're like, oh, women make 75 cents to the dollar, whatever.

02:14:54.600 But then it's like, okay, if you look at top earners, how many of the women had to stop

02:14:58.620 in their tracks at 30 something to have kids, raise those kids, come back where their male

02:15:03.480 colleagues were being promoted in the meantime.

02:15:05.380 Did you think that wasn't going to happen?

02:15:06.880 Like I have girlfriends who are like upset about that.

02:15:08.980 It's like, well, my male colleague makes more than me.

02:15:11.500 It's like, but you took a year off to have a kid.

02:15:12.780 That's like such a beautiful thing to do, but you're not calculating that in your income.

02:15:17.840 They feel as though they have been gypped by society when it's like saying, don't you

02:15:22.180 think that time that you spent with your kid is valuable?

02:15:24.300 Don't you think the fact that you can do that?

02:15:25.980 And he never could.

02:15:27.000 That man could never carry a child.

02:15:28.620 So if hopefully he meets a lady and hopefully you don't have any problems, whereas like

02:15:31.460 you get to do this thing that so many people want.

02:15:33.960 I think they look at it as a burden when it's actually something very cool and powerful.

02:15:37.540 Yeah, there are costs, but like, so that's true for everything.

02:15:40.220 And if you're going to look at it as a burden, don't do it.

02:15:42.160 Like I'm not the kind of woman who, or Christian who thinks everyone should have kids because

02:15:46.400 if you don't want to, you're going to be bad at it and your kids are going to be messed

02:15:49.480 up.

02:15:49.760 So like if you want to be girl boss and do the corporate thing, like you should focus

02:15:53.800 on that because if you try to do everything badly, like it's going to, we would be spread

02:15:57.820 too thin.

02:15:58.300 Yeah.

02:15:58.620 We are just about at the time.

02:16:00.060 So I want to thank you guys for hanging out.

02:16:01.560 This has been fun.

02:16:02.080 Thank you for having us.

02:16:02.980 Thank you so much for having us.

02:16:03.780 Yeah, of course.

02:16:04.440 Do you want to shout anything out before we wrap up?

02:16:06.340 Yeah.

02:16:06.640 If you want, you can subscribe to our YouTube channel.

02:16:08.840 We're called The Shallow End and you can follow us on Twitter.

02:16:12.160 And Instagram, it's not Twitter, it's X.

02:16:13.780 I'm never going to get over that.

02:16:15.240 It's twitter.com in the URL.

02:16:16.800 Yeah, that's true.

02:16:18.080 Yeah.

02:16:18.640 Sorry, Elon.

02:16:19.560 Yeah.

02:16:19.780 Thank you guys so much for having us.

02:16:21.900 My dad wanted to know where this alien thing is from.

02:16:24.600 The UFO?

02:16:25.140 Yeah.

02:16:25.500 Instagram.

02:16:25.980 I got an ad for it and I bought it.

02:16:27.040 Okay.

02:16:27.440 If you Google search floating UFO lamp.

02:16:29.180 Marketing works.

02:16:30.100 He's getting one for Christmas.

02:16:30.860 Perfect.

02:16:31.460 Instagram gets me every time.

02:16:32.660 Yeah.

02:16:32.980 I'm such a sucker.

02:16:33.880 I bought some shoes.

02:16:34.660 I love them.

02:16:35.040 I bought like red light therapy.

02:16:36.920 I'm like, let's do this.

02:16:38.840 Yeah.

02:16:38.940 I think the latest thing it sent me was a macro scale that can

02:16:42.160 tell you the micronutrients as well.

02:16:43.740 Because it knows it's in your fitness era.

02:16:45.180 You're in your fitness era.

02:16:46.380 Like you step on it and it tells you.

02:16:47.840 No, no, no.

02:16:48.160 It's a food scale.

02:16:48.920 So you can put a steak on it and not only calculates like the

02:16:52.760 weight of it, it'll show the protein, it'll show the vitamin A,

02:16:55.080 it'll show like.

02:16:55.460 The calories?

02:16:56.480 Oh, everything.

02:16:57.040 Oh, wow.

02:16:57.760 Yeah.

02:16:58.060 Look out.

02:16:58.560 So it knows it's a steak and then it shows you.

02:17:02.120 That's crazy.

02:17:02.920 Because we have a food scale where it's ounces or grams and then

02:17:05.960 you can type in the app and figure it out.

02:17:07.320 But I ordered the scale where it's like, yeah,

02:17:09.300 they know exactly what I'm looking for.

02:17:10.580 I love that.

02:17:11.060 They've got you.

02:17:11.980 Yeah.

02:17:12.540 Well, yeah.

02:17:13.080 I'm really glad you guys can both join us.

02:17:14.480 This has been really interesting.

02:17:15.440 I'm glad we could reference Taylor Swift every couple of

02:17:17.660 multiple times.

02:17:18.600 Yeah.

02:17:18.920 I publicly quoted Taylor Swift lyrics on the show.

02:17:21.720 So I've really done everything I need to do today.

02:17:24.340 I'm Hannah Claire Brimelow.

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02:17:35.460 So, Kellen, bye.

02:17:36.740 I didn't even intro you in the beginning.

02:17:38.340 Bye, guys.

02:17:39.320 Remember, the strippers don't love you.

02:17:41.240 I don't.

02:17:41.880 You're not a special.

02:17:43.060 Yeah.

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The Culture War #61 Feminism Has Become Anti Female, Going Woke, Protecting Males w⧸Katherine Krozonouski & Natasha Biase

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