The Culture War - Tim Pool - The Culture War #63 X-Class Solar Flare INCOMING, Could Knock Out GRID, GET PREPARED ｜ The Culture War With Tim Pool w⧸David Tice & Drew Miller

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00:00:59.320 We got some pretty wild news. An X-Class Solar Flare, or a Class 4, or whatever it's called,

00:01:06.020 because people give it different names, is currently headed towards Earth, and it is already,

00:01:10.720 apparently they're saying it's already triggered radio blackouts.

00:01:13.920 Live Science is saying that it could rival the Carrington event of 1859,

00:01:18.700 in which people saw auroras all over the world, and telegraph wires burst into flames.

00:01:25.560 Oh boy.

00:01:26.780 Now there are some estimates that this could be the big one that knocks the grid down, but,

00:01:31.620 you know, I don't know, whatever, maybe.

00:01:34.020 So we're going to talk about this because the theme of today is,

00:01:37.020 you know, outside of the major solar flare that's about to slam into us,

00:01:41.280 we actually were more concerned with World War III and, you know, maybe Civil War,

00:01:46.620 World War III more so, I'd say.

00:01:48.340 And so we decided we should do a show about, you know, prepping and disaster preparedness

00:01:51.560 and supplies and all that stuff.

00:01:52.960 And then, you know, I walk in and they're like,

00:01:55.320 oh, and by the way, a major solar flare is about to hit the planet and it could knock out the grid.

00:01:58.020 So we'll talk about that.

00:01:59.100 We've got a couple of people joining us.

00:02:01.100 Sir, would you like to go first?

00:02:02.560 Yeah, I'm Drew Miller.

00:02:03.560 I'm the CEO of Fortitude Ranch for the nation's largest recreational and survival community,

00:02:08.280 former Air Force intelligence officer.

00:02:09.300 We're going to pull the mic a little closer, yes.

00:02:10.480 Sorry.

00:02:11.820 And also working with a new Collapse Survivor app,

00:02:14.700 which just issued a warning on the solar flares that could take our grid down.

00:02:18.300 Low probability, but a higher chance.

00:02:21.960 Right on it, sir.

00:02:23.380 So I'm David Tice.

00:02:24.980 I'm the producer director of Grid Down Power Up,

00:02:28.040 which is a award-winning documentary narrated by Dennis Quaid.

00:02:32.820 I'm formerly a fund manager, managed the Prudent Bear Fund for about a decade and a half,

00:02:39.140 warned individuals about a market decline, predicted the 00 to 02 crash as well as the 08 crash.

00:02:49.840 Right on, thanks for hanging out.

00:02:50.840 Phil's here.

00:02:51.480 I am Phil Labonte.

00:02:52.560 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains.

00:02:54.360 I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.

00:02:56.280 Let's go.

00:02:57.320 I am.

00:02:58.540 Yeah, give me one second.

00:02:59.540 What's going on, guys?

00:03:00.140 Yeah, I'm on the faders, too, Phil.

00:03:02.180 Phil, sir.

00:03:03.420 Damn.

00:03:04.100 Figure it out, homie.

00:03:05.300 We're trying today.

00:03:06.300 But yeah, Tim, I'm on the faders, too.

00:03:07.820 I think the audio levels are good.

00:03:09.760 Yeah, we just launched a new system, so this could simulcast on X as well as on YouTube.

00:03:15.200 And so that had an audio issue or whatever.

00:03:18.920 But we actually have a story to pull up before we get into all of this.

00:03:22.200 Take a look.

00:03:22.460 This is, I think it's live science.

00:03:24.740 But you never know.

00:03:25.140 It could always be live science.

00:03:26.960 Which one?

00:03:27.520 I don't know.

00:03:27.780 We'll say live.

00:03:28.180 And gargantuan sunspot 15 Earths wide shoots powerful X-class flare towards Earth, triggering radio blackouts.

00:03:35.100 A sunspot so big it rivals the gigantic sunspot responsible for the Carrington event in 1859 has unleashed another X-class solar flare, triggering radio blackouts on Earth.

00:03:47.680 And they say the behemoth patch of the sun's surface has ballooned in recent days.

00:03:52.700 So they're saying, I suppose, at some point today, what does it say?

00:03:56.680 It says, the giant sunspot has more than lived up to the expectations, firing out countless powerful solar flares in recent days, including a colossal X-class flare this morning, peaking at 5.13 a.m.

00:04:07.420 Now, that means it fired out at 5.13 a.m.

00:04:10.880 But how long does it take for a solar flare to—do you guys know this one?

00:04:14.420 I'm not—I don't assume astrophysics is your expertise, so.

00:04:18.000 They can't predict it exactly.

00:04:20.220 So they're estimating any time from midday Friday to Friday night, it could start hitting the Earth.

00:04:25.660 So they're not very accurate.

00:04:26.920 So it looks, you know, like a day-plus they've got to look at it, but it varies a lot.

00:04:31.040 Worst-case scenario?

00:04:33.300 Saturday is what they're saying is the worst, and there's some people estimating there's a 10% chance the grid could actually be taken down if it's that severe.

00:04:41.640 But it's very, very difficult to predict.

00:04:43.780 If the grid goes down, are we talking like we're back to the Stone Age or just the power's out for a day or two?

00:04:48.060 So, Tim, my film, Grid Down Power Up, is an hour long.

00:04:52.620 We talk about four major threats.

00:04:55.240 Geomagnetic disturbance is the fourth, which is—and you mentioned the Carrington event.

00:05:00.800 The Carrington event essentially fried all the telegraph lines, sent people to the hospital, et cetera.

00:05:08.320 In terms of volts per kilometer, it was at a massive scale.

00:05:13.020 And this is 1859.

00:05:14.360 This is—the grid is microscopic at the time.

00:05:18.060 Exactly.

00:05:19.060 So, actually, the EMP Commission operated for 17 years at the behest of Congress.

00:05:26.840 They mostly talked about an electromagnetic pulse attack from a nuclear detonation.

00:05:33.780 But essentially, what we have with a GMD disturbance like this is called a natural EMP because it's gamma waves that are wiping out electronics.

00:05:43.620 It could wipe out sensitive electronics, could also wipe out transformers.

00:05:49.100 The big risk is these massive high-voltage transformers.

00:05:55.960 There's only 2,000 of them in the country.

00:05:58.760 However, if they go out, there's as long as a five- to six-year backlog.

00:06:03.400 And therefore, the EMP Commission found that if our massive transformers go out and the grid goes out, as many as 90 percent of Americans could die.

00:06:13.880 And it's not what you think.

00:06:16.100 It's not 90 percent die because, you know, you're on a heart pump or something like that.

00:06:20.880 It's mainly because when the grid goes down, no food deliveries, no water systems working in cities, people start starving to death.

00:06:29.320 And most people aren't going to politely sit at home and starve to death.

00:06:32.580 They're going to go out and steal.

00:06:33.560 So marauding is probably what's going to kill.

00:06:36.800 Marauding and starvation is probably what's going to kill most people.

00:06:38.680 It's going to be like the Hunger Games on steroids.

00:06:40.500 I want to put a pin on that because there's a meme that you see on Twitter a lot.

00:06:46.620 People will say, oh, you know, if you're out there and you're not training with your gear, then you're just a loot drop and blah, blah, blah.

00:06:52.560 And the concept of a person being a loot drop, that is the marauder mindset.

00:07:00.360 So if you're the person, if you're saying you're a prepper and you're looking around at all the people that are like, that you're like, oh, I'm going to get that from him and I'm going to get that from him.

00:07:08.880 You're you're the you're the marauder in the after.

00:07:12.340 But they don't care.

00:07:13.160 Terrible world scenario.

00:07:14.260 Why would they care?

00:07:15.500 Well, the point the point that I'm making is a lot of people style themselves in their head as this hero and this good guy.

00:07:21.120 And at the same time, they're sitting there saying, oh, but I'm going to go ahead and kill my neighbors to take their stuff.

00:07:26.000 Like, that's not how you survive in a situation like that.

00:07:29.840 You need community.

00:07:30.820 No, you need community.

00:07:31.580 You'll get people get taken out.

00:07:32.780 Yeah, for sure.

00:07:34.380 But like there's there's there's there's going to be predators and there's going to be prey.

00:07:37.520 There's going to be the the agrarian and there's going to be the carnivorous that you look at life and you have plants, little old plants where they do all day.

00:07:46.700 They mind their own business, soaking in the sunlight, free for everybody.

00:07:50.420 Mind your own business, growing with that beautiful, ambient energy.

00:07:54.020 And then we come along, hack it to bits and eat it.

00:07:57.360 We're the predators hunting.

00:07:58.920 So I say vegans, you know, pay attention because, you know, these plants are innocent.

00:08:04.060 But joking aside, when it comes to the collapse, there will be tons of marauders that survive.

00:08:09.340 And that is a viable strategy for a long time.

00:08:12.240 In fact, human civilization cannot survive if everyone's marauding.

00:08:17.320 But there will be marauders who exploit this and survive because there will be many people trying to form community.

00:08:23.740 OK, so let's think about that, though, Tim.

00:08:25.820 We have a score of food and water and therefore those people that did prepare.

00:08:32.260 So the marauders are going to go after that.

00:08:34.760 But inside a city, there's not that many of them.

00:08:38.220 And therefore, they're going to have to go out and find the ranches where there's food, etc.

00:08:42.560 And we're talking about municipal water systems not working.

00:08:47.780 We're talking about waste water systems not working.

00:08:51.120 I don't think, you know, it's like New York City.

00:08:54.980 No, it's actually, let's take L.A. as a good example.

00:08:57.280 It's very, it's a very flat, widespread urban environment.

00:09:02.220 When it all comes crashing down, the marauders of Los Angeles ain't going to be thinking about finding a ranch.

00:09:08.000 They're not going to know that ranches exist.

00:09:09.600 The people, you go to, you go to, I'm sorry, Kyle Kalinske, but this will forever be your, your, your moment.

00:09:19.760 Socialist, lefty, Kyle Kalinske, streamer and personality.

00:09:23.120 He's a nice guy.

00:09:23.940 I like the guy.

00:09:25.060 But he posted a picture from an airplane of farms and said, I wonder why it looks that way.

00:09:31.140 And this is, this is a guy with a prominent face you're making.

00:09:34.740 Like, what?

00:09:35.360 This is a guy who's got a massive platform with millions of followers.

00:09:39.780 He, he speaks, he talks politics all day and he flew in a plane and took a picture of farms and said, I wonder why it looks that way.

00:09:46.160 Now, what do you think is going to happen to an uneducated, brutish barbarian marauder in Los Angeles?

00:09:53.620 They're not going to come together and be like, guys, we got to find a ranch somewhere where they've got some animals and some food to steal.

00:09:58.760 They're going to be like, I'm going to go start kicking doors in who's with me.

00:10:02.460 And when they run out of beans in the cupboard, they're going to start eating each other.

00:10:06.740 Like the marauders won't eat each other.

00:10:08.240 They'll eat other people.

00:10:09.820 Yeah, it's funny, but prepping has changed a lot over the past several years.

00:10:14.200 You know, now it's up to one third of Americans are prepping.

00:10:16.740 But the other big difference I've seen, and I attribute it to the Walking Dead series.

00:10:21.040 Yeah.

00:10:21.400 Is that really trained people on marauding?

00:10:23.740 And I had a lot of Fort Ranch members calling me saying, hey, you need to watch this Walking Dead show.

00:10:28.060 And I said, it's about zombies.

00:10:29.380 We deal with real threats, not nonsense like zombies.

00:10:32.640 And they said, no, you ought to watch it because it's really showing you, educating you on survival and defending against marauders.

00:10:38.460 So I started watching it, and they're right.

00:10:40.640 But unfortunately, I think that show has encouraged and promoted a lot of people saying, I'm going to start marauding when the shit hits the fan.

00:10:48.020 Can I say that on this show?

00:10:49.640 We try not to swear, but it's not the apocalypse.

00:10:52.240 I bleeped on Fox when I said that.

00:10:54.140 But for prepper, S-H-T-F, it's a standard prepper term.

00:10:57.160 We use it all the time.

00:10:57.960 The last thing you want to try and do is have to explain T-Hot walkie every time someone runs around.

00:11:02.920 The question I've always wondered, because I've seen comics, when shit hits the fan, they show a desk fan with someone throwing feces.

00:11:11.900 But does it, I always thought it kind of meant like when the shit gets so high, it reaches the ceiling fan.

00:11:16.720 Is that what it's supposed to mean?

00:11:17.700 I thought that it was when you throw it at the fan, because when you throw it at the fan, it splatters and gets on everybody.

00:11:24.340 So everybody's involved at that point.

00:11:26.820 When you throw it and it hits the fan, whether you like it or not, you're involved.

00:11:29.720 You're covered in it.

00:11:30.640 Right.

00:11:30.780 Because if it was just rising and filling the room, the fan would just shut off.

00:11:33.660 Yeah.

00:11:33.820 Who cares about that?

00:11:34.800 Well, now that we've figured that one out.

00:11:38.360 Yeah.

00:11:38.640 So back to the Marauders thing.

00:11:42.560 There was, the joke is, people are called loot drops.

00:11:49.000 The implication being like in a video game, I don't know if you guys are familiar.

00:11:53.060 Let's say you play Fallout.

00:11:54.540 I got Fallout 4 set up in the other room.

00:11:56.740 And a bad guy runs up to you and he's shooting at you and you shoot back.

00:12:00.120 He dies.

00:12:00.700 You walk over.

00:12:01.180 You pick up his gun.

00:12:01.820 You pick up his clothes.

00:12:02.520 You take his stuff.

00:12:03.080 You put your bag and keep going.

00:12:03.960 That's the implication of people who are untrained and incapable.

00:12:07.840 But, you know, a lot of people have pointed out that if you are buying emergency food and

00:12:13.120 you don't have guns, thank you for buying the food for me.

00:12:17.040 That's what they say.

00:12:17.500 Thank you for buying the food for me.

00:12:18.620 Yeah.

00:12:18.760 I stress this all the time.

00:12:20.300 If you've got a lot of preparations and you don't have the guns, and not just the guns,

00:12:24.980 but, you know, the defensive walls, enough people to have a lot of guards on duty, you've

00:12:28.980 almost, you may have in some situations made yourself worse off because you've made yourself

00:12:33.440 a prime target.

00:12:34.580 And we see this all the time.

00:12:35.960 Forty Ranch, we're in, you know, pretty remote rural locations.

00:12:39.000 And there's a lot of, you know, I call them trophy ranches where someone in the city has

00:12:43.440 a big ranch out there.

00:12:44.640 And you can tell I'm in Central Texas.

00:12:46.460 When you see a real fancy gate, that's not a real farmer.

00:12:49.600 That's a trophy ranch.

00:12:50.720 The big white fences, and there's just, you know, acres and acres of green grass that's

00:12:56.500 all manicured and stuff, and they call it a ranch.

00:12:58.440 Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

00:12:59.240 And so there's survival plans.

00:13:00.020 I've got a lot of food and stuff stockpiled there.

00:13:01.700 I'll just go out there and I'll...

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00:14:28.540 Y'all leave Dallas, go out there and survive a collapse.

00:14:33.620 You know, good luck.

00:14:34.460 You're going to be the prime target from anyone in the area and marauders come out.

00:14:38.660 Oh, look at that beautiful big house there.

00:14:40.360 That's where they're going.

00:14:41.300 Yeah.

00:14:41.520 I'd say if you live in a big city, if you're lucky, you'll be a slave.

00:14:46.060 If you're a guy, they'll probably just kill you.

00:14:49.280 Women will be raped and sold into slavery.

00:14:51.180 And this is not me having a negative view of humanity.

00:14:53.880 It's me having a realistic view of what literally happens in other countries without order and

00:14:58.040 without security.

00:14:59.760 You know, in hostile environment training for covering war and conflict and stuff, this

00:15:05.900 is just the reality.

00:15:06.640 If you're a guy and you're in enemy territory, and even if you're a journalist, they don't

00:15:10.380 care who you are.

00:15:11.320 You're in the way.

00:15:12.420 Nobody wants to take a risk.

00:15:13.880 They see you.

00:15:14.820 They shoot first.

00:15:16.020 If they don't know you, there's no point.

00:15:18.680 And so, you know, I like to ask people this hypothetical.

00:15:22.280 I say, you're walking in the woods.

00:15:25.560 You're lost.

00:15:26.920 Or civilization is gone, right?

00:15:28.140 Let's just say you're in the woods.

00:15:30.280 There's no hope of finding a city or anything.

00:15:32.200 You've got a small little bag of food, a little canteen with water in it.

00:15:36.280 You've got a rifle.

00:15:37.500 Maybe it's a, you know, I don't know, 5.56.

00:15:39.380 You've got 30 rounds.

00:15:40.460 And you're walking through the woods when 200 yards, you see a guy walking towards you.

00:15:47.060 Same gear.

00:15:48.060 Looks like he's got the same canteen as you.

00:15:49.680 Must have water in it.

00:15:50.440 Maybe.

00:15:50.640 I don't know.

00:15:51.460 Same looking gun.

00:15:52.980 Looks like it might be the same as me.

00:15:54.660 Identical in every way.

00:15:55.480 What do you do?

00:15:56.540 And there's no real right answer to this question.

00:15:58.460 It's just to ask people to think about what do they do in this scenario.

00:16:02.700 What I love so much about this is that when I ask people in cities, what do you think my

00:16:07.900 city friends say to me?

00:16:10.200 When I say, you're in the middle of the woods.

00:16:11.680 Civilization is gone.

00:16:12.960 Limited food, limited water, and gun.

00:16:14.480 You see a person with the exact same circumstance walking in the direction towards you.

00:16:19.780 What do you do?

00:16:20.800 They'd probably call out or wave to them.

00:16:22.920 Exactly.

00:16:23.320 Literally, every single time they go, oh, I wave and I go, bang.

00:16:27.640 And now you're a loot drop.

00:16:29.640 That person walks over and says, don't know, don't care, didn't want to find out.

00:16:33.540 Now I got double the food, double the water, and I got double the guns.

00:16:36.380 Maybe not.

00:16:37.740 I mean, survival with another person is tremendous.

00:16:41.020 So let's, fine, let's entertain your scenario.

00:16:43.980 You decide to yell back and say, hey there.

00:16:47.980 They respond back, they don't speak English.

00:16:52.900 Now what do you do?

00:16:54.380 It's just not an easy world to think.

00:16:56.740 You can walk up to a strange person with limited resources who doesn't know you, and that everything's

00:17:01.520 going to be okay.

00:17:02.320 You look at the way that animals, whether they're like, like even animals like, so a bear, right?

00:17:08.220 Like they're omnivores.

00:17:10.000 So they'll eat plants and they'll eat people.

00:17:12.120 They'll eat almost anything.

00:17:13.000 And a bear is, like most bears are capable of decimating a human being, just tearing

00:17:20.200 your limb from limb.

00:17:21.420 Black bears still avoid the crap out of humans unless they're defending their kids because

00:17:27.140 it's dangerous for a lone animal, human being or a wild animal, to interact in the wild because

00:17:34.900 if you get a cut, you could die.

00:17:37.780 You could get an infection.

00:17:38.800 And animals behave that way because of the risk.

00:17:43.040 So it's like, why would you try to interact with someone when the risk is so great?

00:17:48.320 You don't know what's going to happen.

00:17:49.320 Let's take this opportunity because I'm sure both of these fine gentlemen haven't seen the

00:17:52.980 meme.

00:17:53.200 Maybe you did.

00:17:53.760 I don't think so.

00:17:54.720 Oh, I didn't even think of that.

00:17:55.840 Right.

00:17:56.060 So let's wait.

00:17:56.860 Let's wait.

00:17:58.200 So outside of an apocalyptic scenario, let's just say literally right now you're on a hike.

00:18:05.660 You get lost in the woods.

00:18:06.940 Who would you rather be lost in the woods with?

00:18:10.160 A man or a bear?

00:18:14.900 I'd probably be with the man because I'm a pretty fast runner, pretty good survival.

00:18:19.460 So if I needed some extra supplies, I can get them from the man.

00:18:23.040 I'm talking about right now.

00:18:23.800 I'm saying if you went hiking on the Appalachian Trail down the street today, turned the wrong

00:18:27.420 direction and said, I don't know where I'm at.

00:18:28.980 Oh, I don't know this other man?

00:18:30.800 Yeah, but it's like, right.

00:18:32.740 You're walking down the woods.

00:18:33.780 You get lost.

00:18:34.320 You're lost in the woods.

00:18:35.100 And you're like, man, where am I?

00:18:36.020 Would you rather be lost in the woods with a man or a bear?

00:18:39.500 Well, the bear, as Phil said, the bear is not going to harm me.

00:18:41.980 He's going to run as soon as he sees me.

00:18:43.520 So I'd be safer with the bear.

00:18:44.980 You think you'd be safer with the bear?

00:18:46.240 Yes.

00:18:46.860 I absolutely love this meme because obviously the right answer is a man.

00:18:51.860 Because we go hiking all the time and we interact with probably a thousand different men every

00:18:57.180 single day without issue.

00:18:58.620 But for some reason, people, and it's typically women who do, they say bears.

00:19:02.760 It's like, well, the bear has, I mean, the chance that you get mauled by a bear is, it's

00:19:09.400 extremely rare.

00:19:10.180 But it's also probably, what, 200 to a thousand times greater than a man.

00:19:14.600 You're walking in the woods.

00:19:15.580 You come across a man.

00:19:16.780 You know what he's going to do?

00:19:17.460 He's going to go, sir.

00:19:18.700 Well, that's, I think the context of normal civilization, if you're hiking and everything's

00:19:24.220 normal, we're not in a breakdown situation.

00:19:25.640 That's what it is.

00:19:26.200 Yeah.

00:19:26.440 But I think that, that I, I assume that you were kind of thinking.

00:19:29.460 I'm kind of almost in survival mode.

00:19:31.080 Yeah.

00:19:31.380 That's kind of what I think is if, if you're just walking through the woods, it is normal

00:19:35.200 for people to be like, oh, Hey, you know, there's a guy we're both hiking.

00:19:38.540 This is normal.

00:19:39.460 Right.

00:19:39.860 But, but more importantly, say you're lost in the woods.

00:19:41.820 Because we're, it's like the world.

00:19:43.420 If I got lost in the woods right now and then I saw a guy, I'd say, oh, thank God.

00:19:48.300 I'd be like, sir, I am lost.

00:19:49.700 Where are we?

00:19:50.500 If I saw a bear, I'd be like, I better hide.

00:19:53.720 Stop making noise of where the bear runs.

00:19:55.840 But I, but I wonder if the, like the reason why this meme exists is because of the, the

00:20:00.620 reaction people have to the thought of being lost in the woods with a man or a bear is the

00:20:04.960 implication that they are threatened by both.

00:20:08.120 And that is actually something really interesting about the human psyche, I guess.

00:20:12.360 But nonetheless, uh, going back to the, the, the, the, the scenario I bring up with, you

00:20:17.720 see a strange man, you have no idea how to survive in that scenario.

00:20:22.640 People don't seem to get it.

00:20:23.980 These people who live in cities that I've talked to about, it seem to think that you

00:20:27.440 can walk up to a stranger and be like, how do you, how do you do, sir?

00:20:30.800 I seem to be lost here.

00:20:32.200 And that guy is going to be like, wow, I don't want to feed you.

00:20:35.760 I don't know or care about you.

00:20:37.000 But the, really the, the, the challenge is you're walking in the woods and you see a guy

00:20:42.840 with a gun and food and all that stuff.

00:20:44.800 And he might be the nicest guy in the world.

00:20:48.040 He's a family man.

00:20:49.400 You know, he's, he's, he's, he's got a family, uh, somewhere not too far away.

00:20:53.660 He's, uh, helped them.

00:20:55.180 He's, he's saved people.

00:20:56.440 He healed a stranger's broken leg.

00:20:58.420 But the problem is he doesn't know you.

00:21:00.640 And now he has to think to himself, do I take the risk that this man with a rifle is going

00:21:05.440 to kill me?

00:21:06.140 Or do I just GTFO?

00:21:09.140 And so you probably, and this is a big challenge.

00:21:13.500 Humans working together survive.

00:21:15.880 Could you risk not trying to engage and interact and team up with someone if you were a lot,

00:21:22.100 truly lost in the woods?

00:21:23.540 So what's interesting, Tim, is that the context, and we are so complacent in this country because

00:21:30.240 we're used to being in a national park, running into people saying, hi, how are you doing?

00:21:36.440 Et cetera.

00:21:37.280 When the situation changes and we literally get to zombie apocalypse without the zombies,

00:21:44.220 things change.

00:21:45.020 It could be your neighbor that you've been on the soccer field with your kids and they

00:21:51.240 have a 10 year old and he's starving after three days.

00:21:56.240 He's likely to blow you away and kill you to get his food.

00:22:01.240 And the food is you.

00:22:03.080 And he's going to say, here, son, have some thigh.

00:22:05.640 That was actually an official U.S. government exercise called Dark Winter.

00:22:10.140 Decades ago, if you remember Senator Sam Nunn, a Democrat from Georgia, very conservative,

00:22:14.400 he played the president.

00:22:15.640 Was this the pandemic?

00:22:17.380 Yes.

00:22:17.800 They made a video game based on this.

00:22:19.320 Yeah.

00:22:19.580 So in Dark Winter, in this exercise, it was a smallpox, it was a small one, just started

00:22:24.120 going.

00:22:24.480 But quickly on in the exercise, they realized that they got all these people going home.

00:22:28.420 Anytime there's any solar flare, you know, civil war, nuclear war erupting, you name it,

00:22:33.820 all the government's going to tell you is go home.

00:22:35.520 There's nothing else they can do.

00:22:36.560 So people go home.

00:22:37.420 Well, after a couple of days, they're starting to starve to death.

00:22:39.700 Yeah.

00:22:40.080 And so in this exercise, they figure out, you know, people are just starving to death.

00:22:44.140 There's not a goddamn, sorry, not a damn thing we can do.

00:22:46.620 And that was, and then Sam Nunn in the report, and this official report in Congress afterwards

00:22:53.780 said, who played the president said, your own, the worst enemy is going to end up being

00:22:58.020 not the virus, because you can stay from that.

00:23:00.220 The worst enemy is going to be your neighbor, because if they start starving to death, they

00:23:03.240 are going to go out and try to steal food and potentially kill in the process.

00:23:07.620 I was talking to a friend and I was explaining, you know, if it really got bad, you live in

00:23:12.520 a city, you'll be surprised at what other people will do and what you could do.

00:23:16.540 And the initial reaction I get is, no, I think we, you know, we'd figure out a way.

00:23:21.660 And I said, let me ask you something.

00:23:25.020 It's a week powers out, no stores, no food, no water.

00:23:30.780 Everyone's confused.

00:23:32.760 Four days ago, you cut your foot outside or the side of your leg.

00:23:37.660 You were walking and you, you got to cut.

00:23:39.360 Two days go by and you notice it's infected.

00:23:43.160 Day four, you're sweating, feverish, you're sick.

00:23:45.760 It's clear.

00:23:46.320 You need antibiotics.

00:23:47.840 Your neighbor across the street has antibiotics.

00:23:50.680 Your husband goes to them and says, please, I beg of you.

00:23:53.280 My wife is dying.

00:23:54.280 They say, no, we need them.

00:23:55.640 We have kids.

00:23:56.740 What does your husband do?

00:23:58.100 And she's like, oh yeah, he'll shoot and kill him and take the antibiotics.

00:24:00.920 I'm like, there, it's not a question of being a good or bad person.

00:24:04.960 It's that when the world is falling apart, people are going to say, I'm sorry.

00:24:07.800 My family matters more to me than you, to your family.

00:24:11.720 And I will not let my family die.

00:24:13.800 You're, you're not, you're totally right.

00:24:15.780 And people had a really great opportunity to see what they, what situation they would

00:24:24.000 be in with the beginning, at the beginning of COVID.

00:24:26.240 If your life changed significantly when COVID started, then you should have, you should

00:24:33.020 look at that as an opportunity to make better preparations for your own safety and security.

00:24:39.220 Now, my life, the only difference in my life when COVID happened was we had a tour planned

00:24:45.660 that we didn't do.

00:24:46.780 Other than that, I, everything changed in my, or everything stayed the same because I'm,

00:24:52.860 I, before it was an issue, I'd put myself in a situation where I would be able to handle

00:24:58.960 that kind of thing.

00:25:00.220 So now I know if there's another pandemic, I can batten down the hatches at my place and

00:25:05.200 I'm good.

00:25:05.660 Right?

00:25:06.060 Like, and everyone should look at COVID as, as that was a little stress test.

00:25:10.320 And you have an opportunity to look back and say, Hey, what should I have done?

00:25:14.600 And obviously everyone now knows, okay, I'm going to have toilet paper.

00:25:17.300 Cause that was the glaring thing.

00:25:18.840 You know, let's talk about the summer of love, the riots in 2020.

00:25:22.480 So the official narrative will be all the George Floyd, you know, death resulted in this

00:25:28.640 widespread rights.

00:25:29.360 No way.

00:25:30.280 Nobody riots that much because one guy dies.

00:25:32.700 They rioted because they were locked in their homes under, under these mandates and you could

00:25:37.680 leave for the most part, but you really had nowhere to go.

00:25:39.860 There was nothing to do.

00:25:40.340 There was no food.

00:25:41.140 The restaurants were shut down.

00:25:42.280 Many, many people lost their businesses.

00:25:44.600 And so what happened, these people who have been locked up in their, in their apartments

00:25:49.200 for two or three months are losing their minds.

00:25:53.320 And then one day everyone's outside.

00:25:55.660 It was entertainment.

00:25:56.900 It's, it's not just that it's, it's, it's for some people, it was something to do for

00:26:01.060 sure, but a lot of people were angry.

00:26:03.340 And so they're going outside and they're angry.

00:26:05.220 And someone told them, you can be angry at this thing.

00:26:07.120 That's, that's allowed.

00:26:08.040 And so they, they adopt it.

00:26:09.420 But I think COVID lockdowns and the subsequent riots from the lockdown rage is a really good

00:26:14.900 example of what you can see if it gets bad.

00:26:18.140 If, if there is smallpox and they say, everyone go home.

00:26:20.740 Yeah.

00:26:20.980 Well, how many weeks until they're out in the streets, smashing windows?

00:26:23.580 Smallpox is like 30% lethal COVID, you know, way, way less than 1% lethal H5N1.

00:26:30.120 If you get it today in the current variant, it's about 60% lethal.

00:26:34.300 Yeah.

00:26:34.520 And it is, you know, contrary to the nonsense, the CDC center for disease control is saying

00:26:39.460 that it's a low risk.

00:26:40.540 It's a very high risk.

00:26:42.160 A lot of biologists are saying it's inevitable.

00:26:44.160 It will either naturally mutate into a human, human transmissible form, just like there are

00:26:49.000 now mammal to mammal transmissible versions.

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00:28:20.820 It's bird and, you know, hundreds of mammal species now have H5N1.

00:28:26.260 And it will be human.

00:28:27.520 Human transness will either naturally or through bioengineering.

00:28:30.480 That's what I've been worried about for years.

00:28:32.560 It's good.

00:28:33.280 It's done.

00:28:34.160 Your gain of function research you're such a big fan of.

00:28:36.820 We did that with ferrets and H5N1 over a decade ago.

00:28:41.580 Not only did we do it, we were successful.

00:28:43.980 They got an air transmissible version of H5N1 in ferrets.

00:28:47.600 They pick ferrets because their respiratory system is like ours, very similar.

00:28:51.880 Not only that, after they did the successful research, they published how they did it in

00:28:56.820 open source literature to let Al-Qaeda and North Korea and everyone in the world know how to

00:29:02.040 make H5N1 human-human transmissible.

00:29:04.720 And this was not CRISPR technology.

00:29:06.780 This was not high-tech.

00:29:08.020 It was a low-tech method they did for it.

00:29:10.300 And it's out there.

00:29:11.180 So H5N1 is either naturally going to mutate to be human-human transmissible, and it'll make

00:29:16.540 COVID look like, you know, a bad cold day.

00:29:19.500 Or it's going to be bioengineered and deliberately released as a biotech.

00:29:23.120 I'm surprised Putin hasn't already done it.

00:29:25.220 I'm surprised he has not already released a virus over here.

00:29:27.600 What kind of level of sophistication does a nation state have to have to be able to actually

00:29:32.140 manipulate, to do that kind of research, that kind of weaponizing?

00:29:37.320 Anyone can do this.

00:29:38.300 Any individual.

00:29:39.560 CRISPR technology is not that hard to use.

00:29:42.000 The other thing is it advances all the time.

00:29:44.180 I used to be a University of Nebraska region.

00:29:46.040 Our med center was absolutely first class.

00:29:47.860 If you remember the Ebola victims who came to the US a lot and went to Nebraska to the

00:29:53.200 University of Nebraska Medical Center, they got a fantastic biofacility there.

00:29:57.420 Well, they have CRISPR technology.

00:29:59.480 And after six months, guess what?

00:30:00.900 There's a new CRISPR version out.

00:30:02.260 What did they do with the old one?

00:30:03.420 They'll sell it for $1,000.

00:30:05.660 So Tim could, you know, you can set up chickens over.

00:30:08.600 Yeah.

00:30:08.740 Oh, it's dirt cheap.

00:30:09.840 So you're talking about, you're talking about.

00:30:11.300 It's not the latest now.

00:30:12.420 It's the next, you know, it's the old version.

00:30:15.040 So people dump it.

00:30:15.840 So if someone had access to, say, $25,000, could they do something?

00:30:22.260 Absolutely.

00:30:22.580 Could they carry out a terrorist attack if they had the right information?

00:30:26.600 Johns Hopkins and, you know, the Bioresearch Centers have been testifying before Congress

00:30:31.380 for decades now saying that bioengineering is going to be misused.

00:30:36.600 They are going to use it for bioweapons.

00:30:38.740 We know, you know, the major bad guy countries have bioweapon programs, but it's no longer countries.

00:30:44.040 A terrorist group, even an individual, you know, Tim Pool could turn his chicken place

00:30:49.460 into an H5N1 production facility.

00:30:51.800 No one will know other than you.

00:30:54.680 And it's inevitable.

00:30:55.600 There's a group, look it up on your website, DIY Bio, do-it-yourself bio.

00:31:00.460 Thousands of people out there playing around with CRISPR and, you know, trying to do largely

00:31:04.780 good stuff, but terrorists can do it too.

00:31:06.720 DIY Bio has been big for a long time.

00:31:08.480 And there are researchers right now in South and Central America that are-

00:31:12.220 Like biohacking stuff?

00:31:13.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:13.840 They're injecting themselves with closed-loop mRNA to elongate their lives.

00:31:20.440 That, to me, is nuts.

00:31:21.900 Like, it's out of sci-fi where the- how many sci-fi movies have we made where the scientist

00:31:26.660 is like, they won't give me approval for human testing?

00:31:29.820 I'll test them on myself!

00:31:31.020 And then they inject himself, then he turns into a monster.

00:31:33.200 Oh, worse than that.

00:31:33.740 There's an article, and I quote it fairly often.

00:31:35.760 So this is a female biologist-

00:31:37.500 Don't build a torment nexus.

00:31:39.000 And she's talking about human overpopulation.

00:31:41.940 That's my big worry.

00:31:43.180 It's not just, you know, North Korea or some, you know, Unabomber nutcase who wants to kill

00:31:48.000 people.

00:31:48.520 Malthusians.

00:31:48.860 Biologists and environmentalists who say people are destroying the planet.

00:31:53.060 Some eco-socialist.

00:31:54.500 So this biologist refers to humans as, quote, mammalian weeds, unquote.

00:31:59.540 So a biologist who does have CRISPR expertise, one person, and we've actually collapsed Survivor

00:32:06.220 app.

00:32:06.400 That's one of our scenarios.

00:32:07.560 A biologist takes CRISPR, designs a new virus, and releases it.

00:32:11.740 And their argument is it's the moral thing to do.

00:32:14.320 Yep.

00:32:14.780 That is crazy.

00:32:16.560 Because if I kill four billion humans now, I stop global warming.

00:32:20.560 Thanos.

00:32:21.100 I save all these species that are being killed by these humans, overpopulation and all our

00:32:26.160 pollution, and by killing four billion people now with my virus that I release, I now make

00:32:31.920 the planet safe for all the other species, plus trillions of future humans.

00:32:37.120 So they release the virus.

00:32:38.200 That's going to happen.

00:32:38.740 And back to your movie point.

00:32:40.200 There was one.

00:32:40.620 I think it was called 12 Monkeys.

00:32:42.040 Oh, yeah.

00:32:42.260 There's a ton of movies like this.

00:32:43.520 There's a new movie out called Humane.

00:32:45.320 And it's about a dystopian future where climate change has destroyed the planet.

00:32:51.860 There's no ozone anymore.

00:32:54.780 And so the UN declares that all countries must reduce population by 20% within one year.

00:33:01.620 And if they don't, and so what they do is they offer up people to enlist.

00:33:05.080 And what that means is they come to your house, they kill you.

00:33:07.860 And then they give a person of your choosing $250,000.

00:33:13.040 The movie's presumably in Canada.

00:33:15.040 And if they do not meet their 20% reduction goal within a year, they'll start drafting people.

00:33:21.140 Drafting to be killed, basically, the government.

00:33:24.140 And so they have a Department of Citizen Strategy.

00:33:26.700 The movie is actually, in my opinion, not very good because there's no ending.

00:33:30.480 And spoiler, there's no ending.

00:33:31.840 And the movie isn't actually about this.

00:33:33.620 The movie opens with this being the premise as to why you have a boring movie.

00:33:38.200 But, you know, that's besides the point.

00:33:39.420 If I could back up for a second.

00:33:40.500 I mentioned earlier, you know, that we know about H5N1.

00:33:43.320 We know it's a huge threat.

00:33:44.620 The CDC is lying when they say it's low risk.

00:33:47.160 And then we've had testimony in Congress about this biologist for decades, and it's ignored.

00:33:52.060 The worst, though, is with the grid and the EMP Commission, if you could talk about that,

00:33:57.140 and how Congress is completely ignored 90% of Americans could die.

00:34:00.760 So I want to stay on movies just for a second.

00:34:03.040 And so you mentioned, Tim, as far as the antibiotic and the person getting the antibiotic from a friend.

00:34:09.140 So Leave the World Behind, you know, had Julia Roberts in it.

00:34:13.640 And Barack and Michelle Obama actually were executive producers.

00:34:18.220 They paid Julia Roberts $25 million to be in that movie.

00:34:23.160 Kevin Bacon was in it.

00:34:24.440 But there's a scene where their son needed, you know, an antibiotic.

00:34:31.840 And they went to Kevin Bacon, and he said, this is a different world today.

00:34:35.860 You know, I know you in the past, but I can't help you.

00:34:39.340 This is every man for himself.

00:34:41.800 So anyway, it's a very instructive movie.

00:34:44.900 But getting back to your point, Drew, as far as this movie was about cyber attacks and cyber attacks on microprocessors that essentially caused a oil tanker to go up on shore,

00:34:59.340 to have airplanes be crashing in order to have—we ended up seeing Teslas, where their navigation systems were all compromised.

00:35:09.040 Very, very similar to what, in my opinion, what happened with the Baltimore Harbor, where the ship, you know, seemed to have been steered into a pier, you know, and caused massive damage.

00:35:23.680 So the EMP Commission found that as many as 90 percent of Americans could die if the grid goes out for an extended period of time.

00:35:31.960 Yeah, I mean—

00:35:32.480 And Congress did nothing about it.

00:35:33.920 This is decades old.

00:35:35.380 They get the report.

00:35:36.400 It's an official, congressionally-sponsored study, the top experts in the field.

00:35:41.180 The report says 90 percent could die.

00:35:43.760 We have to harden the grid.

00:35:45.000 And they didn't do a damn thing.

00:35:46.560 People don't realize exactly how—like, people don't realize how interconnected the modern society that we live in is today.

00:35:53.240 It's not going to be 90 percent because, like, it's going to be a cascade of failures is what's going to happen.

00:36:02.020 And that's—it's emblematic of the fact that energy is what keeps people alive, right?

00:36:09.000 You can boil it down to X amount of energy can support X amount of human beings.

00:36:13.640 And what the grid go—the grid going down means that we can't produce or trans—or transmit energy across the country.

00:36:21.520 That's going to turn into dead people, and that goes to—that goes into the talk about eco-socialism that we were talking about earlier and the idea that the—there are people that want to see the—the human population use less energy overall because they believe that's harming the planet.

00:36:40.640 And this is a serious problem that we're going to have to deal with, that people could use—are willing to commit significant terrorist acts to reduce the population.

00:36:50.280 It's not just about how much energy we have.

00:36:52.300 That is a very simple mathematical equation.

00:36:54.520 If the current population of the United States requires X amount of calories and we produce X plus Y calories, then population grows.

00:37:02.540 If you get X minus Y calories, then population begins to shrink or you get austerity in an attempt to, you know, restrict certain accesses—certain excesses and maintain population, diverting energy.

00:37:14.460 The other reality is application of, meaning if the power goes out, people with diabetes die relatively quickly because insulin has to be refrigerated.

00:37:24.300 And so it's not even having the energy.

00:37:26.240 It's applying it properly.

00:37:27.600 Hey, man, power goes out.

00:37:29.180 Don't worry.

00:37:30.020 We got trees for days, bags of coal, and cans of gas.

00:37:33.140 We can run our cars for a long time.

00:37:36.080 You got a refrigerator?

00:37:37.320 How are you going to run the refrigerator?

00:37:38.480 Maybe someone's smart enough to figure out how to run their fridge off their car battery with the gas pumping it, but they're going to burn through so much energy to keep that insulin cold.

00:37:48.880 The other issue is production of insulin.

00:37:52.580 And so whether you have gas or not, there are technologies that are keeping people alive today that when the power goes out, it's gone.

00:38:00.660 Yeah, and food production is gone.

00:38:02.180 So there will be no food production.

00:38:04.360 So food distribution will stop instantly.

00:38:06.420 There's no way a truck driver is going to come into any big city when there's a collapse and get killed because they want to steal this food.

00:38:12.920 So food will go instantly.

00:38:14.780 Have you seen the South Africa truckers?

00:38:17.060 They're on the highway and then just hordes, like 50 people, run up, smash out the windows, rip the whole thing apart, and rip every box from it.

00:38:23.180 Well, this happens in the U.S. during Katrina, which should have been a no-big-deal event.

00:38:28.320 And truck drivers would not take relief supplies into Katrina without National Guard escort because law and order vanished in New Orleans over a relatively mild disaster event.

00:38:39.660 In a real collapse, it will be a nightmare.

00:38:42.160 And that's the purpose of our Collapse Survivor app is, you know, back to your point about people in cities having no clue.

00:38:47.360 People need to be aware of it, and it's, you know, we can talk about it, but the simulation is the best way to do it.

00:38:54.420 And so we run six-day simulations on the Collapse Survivor app, and they're fun, entertaining, but they're educational.

00:38:59.820 You have to make decisions like the one you just mentioned.

00:39:03.360 My favorite is the Starving Ladies Company.

00:39:05.460 It's called Collapse Survivor.

00:39:06.800 So it runs you through scenarios?

00:39:09.300 Correct.

00:39:09.480 Because I imagine what it should do is, maybe it does, check your location settings.

00:39:14.040 Absolutely.

00:39:14.560 And if you're in New York, it just turns red and says you died.

00:39:17.400 It doesn't do it.

00:39:18.520 It calculates it.

00:39:19.860 But if you're in a big city, you don't bug out.

00:39:22.440 And if you, because you'll get that, you'll get that question.

00:39:25.160 Do you want to, you know, things seem to be getting bad.

00:39:27.140 Do you want to bug out?

00:39:28.080 Everyone says no.

00:39:28.660 You should bug out.

00:39:29.380 But if they stay, and especially in the grid-down situation, no municipal water systems, you aren't going to last long in any municipal area.

00:39:35.940 We were talking about this, me, I think it was like Luke, and we talked about it on the show, on Tim Castirel.

00:39:43.460 At what point do you leave the United States with what we're seeing politically?

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00:41:15.940 Violently in the streets.

00:41:20.340 Now, of course, we're getting another summer of love with the anti-Israel stuff and people are marching to the streets.

00:41:25.800 They're fighting with cops.

00:41:26.820 But that, you know, protests and riots happen.

00:41:28.840 You had the battle in Seattle.

00:41:30.240 You had Occupy Wall Street.

00:41:31.560 Yeah, like society hasn't collapsed in the past 30 years and these things happen.

00:41:35.000 But with the criminal prosecution of the current frontrunner for the presidential race,

00:41:40.040 and not just for a political party, but the guy who's expected to win, they're trying to put him in jail.

00:41:43.320 You're getting to that point where politics is breaking down.

00:41:47.440 Social order is at risk.

00:41:49.260 The criminal charges against Donald Trump in New York have no statutory basis in law.

00:41:53.280 They did it anyway.

00:41:53.920 So for those that may not be familiar, the simple version being state, they're saying Trump fabricated falsified business records in furtherance of another crime, which is a misdemeanor, passed its statute of limitations.

00:42:08.040 So you can't charge him for it.

00:42:09.200 In order to charge him, they upgraded to a felony, arguing that it was to interfere in an election.

00:42:15.400 But the FEC and the DOJ both said there's no crime committed here.

00:42:19.980 The state's just doing it anyway.

00:42:21.860 And it's not illegal to pay someone money to not tell a story.

00:42:26.780 That happens all the time.

00:42:27.580 Book publishers do this.

00:42:28.800 So there's no real statutory crime.

00:42:30.280 The question then becomes, are we looking at social breakdown?

00:42:34.560 We're looking at violence in the streets.

00:42:36.440 We're looking at extreme policy shifts between states.

00:42:40.640 Some states have banned abortion outright.

00:42:42.160 Some states are allowing it to the point of birth, which is a big question.

00:42:47.620 Now you have the illegal immigrants pouring into the country.

00:42:49.800 The question that, you know, we ask on the show, or we did, was when you look at other historical examples of social disorder and collapse, they typically end with a lot of people dying.

00:43:00.600 The French Revolution, for example.

00:43:02.820 At what point do you say, I'm going to leave this place before I end up a victim?

00:43:08.040 The best example that, or I shouldn't say the best, but the most notable example being World War II and the Jews who fled Germany early and were able to.

00:43:17.960 So in the early days of the Nazi party, as the rhetoric is increasing, targeting Jews, there were many Jews who said, sell everything.

00:43:25.560 We need to get out of here.

00:43:26.720 But a large portion said, no, it will never happen.

00:43:30.780 It's not going to happen.

00:43:32.140 And then, holy crap, did it happen, right?

00:43:35.220 That many people just did not want to believe that Hitler was going to start rounding people up.

00:43:39.940 And not just Jews, but primarily.

00:43:41.400 But, you know, Romani and Poles and suspected communists and gay people, putting them in camps, work camps, extermination camps, different combinations.

00:43:49.420 People didn't believe it was going to happen.

00:43:51.340 So the people who, you know, you're looking at a probability and you're sitting here thinking, I know they're saying it on the news.

00:43:58.400 But, you know, people have protested all the time.

00:44:00.220 Is it really going to get to that point?

00:44:01.660 Some people said, I'm going to leave.

00:44:03.880 And those who did, they're alive today.

00:44:06.480 And they have, and many people who said, no, I'm not going to leave, they're gone.

00:44:12.500 The question then becomes, and what, you know, we're talking about with your app, people in cities, do you want to bug out?

00:44:19.340 But I'd be willing to bet that if there was a notification of an outbreak in New York City of some virus or disease, actually, I think it's fair to say based on COVID, we know 80, 90% are going to say, no, I'll be fine.

00:44:34.460 And they'll stay.

00:44:35.300 Yeah.

00:44:35.840 Nassim Taleb wrote about that.

00:44:37.120 It's a bestseller.

00:44:38.060 The Black Swan, The Impact of the Highly Improbable.

00:44:40.780 Brilliant man.

00:44:42.880 Published the book, The Black Swan.

00:44:44.540 And it is human nature to do exactly that.

00:44:46.740 You don't want to think about bad things.

00:44:49.000 You know, you probably wouldn't live in New York City if you were really concerned about the probability of a collapse.

00:44:53.880 So people ignore that.

00:44:55.220 And, you know, the other point is, you know, would people leave?

00:44:58.600 There are people really concerned that, you know, the election issues is throwing gas.

00:45:02.820 The country's already divided and split.

00:45:04.700 That's well known.

00:45:05.360 But this Biden-Trump election rematch is really pouring gas on the fire.

00:45:09.700 If you could bring up that slide 10 I had there, that talks about Ray Dalio.

00:45:15.000 So Ray Dalio's—

00:45:16.500 Which one is it?

00:45:17.100 Is it—

00:45:17.300 Slide 10.

00:45:18.620 30% chance of civil war.

00:45:20.600 Ray Dalio, he's the founder of Bridgewater.

00:45:22.440 Do we have that pulled up?

00:45:23.760 Yeah.

00:45:24.140 There you go.

00:45:24.980 He's the founder.

00:45:25.720 In the grid one?

00:45:26.240 Slide 10.

00:45:27.520 If you exit down the 10.

00:45:31.620 This right here?

00:45:32.060 Yeah, right there.

00:45:32.820 So the risk of civil war, which, you know, you talk about fairly often, it's very real.

00:45:37.420 It's a 30% chance.

00:45:38.600 It's not even a Black Swan event.

00:45:40.680 Yeah.

00:45:40.760 Black Swan is really unpredictable almost.

00:45:43.200 This is very predictable.

00:45:44.720 It's coming.

00:45:45.840 And he estimated—and this was over a year ago, before it was Biden-Trump as the known

00:45:50.060 candidates—30% chance of civil war theater.

00:45:52.960 Ray Dalio is the founder of Bridgewater.

00:45:54.660 He has made a fortune by correctly predicting future events.

00:45:58.760 This is not some, you know, random guy.

00:46:01.060 This is probably one of the smartest men away who knows how to predict the future.

00:46:05.100 And that's right.

00:46:06.060 This man who has been warning about civil war, surely he's a genius.

00:46:11.960 Yeah, he's got a good head on his shoulders.

00:46:14.800 So, I have lost the point that I was going to make.

00:46:20.400 I'm sorry.

00:46:21.680 Well, back to the looting.

00:46:22.920 If you flip to the next slide.

00:46:24.200 So, we just ran a civil war scenario on the collapsed Severio nap.

00:46:27.580 And it's the basic situation you see all the time, whether it's, you know, Black Lives

00:46:31.300 Matter protests.

00:46:32.220 And any time you get a big group of people, police are overwhelmed.

00:46:35.340 They've got to do crowd control.

00:46:36.900 And if it gets violent, now you've doubled, tripled the amount of police there.

00:46:41.420 With all the police there, there is no one to respond to looting.

00:46:44.620 And looters know this.

00:46:45.880 So, they'll glob on to a legitimate protest, and then they start looting.

00:46:50.820 And it happens all over the place.

00:46:52.500 And people know about it now.

00:46:54.080 So, when the election starts this year, and it gets worse and worse, we're fighting over

00:46:58.060 abortion, gun control, the environment, you name it, you know, any social welfare policy.

00:47:03.320 We're divided on that.

00:47:05.120 These election results are going to get anger and anger.

00:47:07.940 The court, you know, the Trump argument that all these trials are just political misconduct

00:47:14.260 trying to hurt him.

00:47:15.500 They're going to lead to violence.

00:47:17.060 And when that happens, and police are overwhelmed, it's free-for-all for looting.

00:47:20.880 And it could expand not just to stores, but breaking into homes.

00:47:24.340 You were talking earlier about kind of like seeing what the situation was around you.

00:47:29.680 And if you're in a place like New York, like New York City or whatever, it's really important

00:47:35.900 for you to pay attention to like the temperature of like what's going on.

00:47:39.760 Because if there is an emergency situation, like all the people that got out of New York

00:47:44.540 City or that could get out of New York City for COVID did.

00:47:47.620 You know, they all got out of the, they could, if they had places where they could go, they

00:47:51.340 got out of there.

00:47:51.900 And that was the right move because even with the lockdowns and stuff, there was still

00:47:57.280 a lot of violence, still a lot of, a lot of robberies and a lot of, a lot of people just

00:48:01.700 getting buck wild.

00:48:02.740 And that was over COVID, which again, looking back, we can say it was a mild stressor on

00:48:09.240 the system.

00:48:09.720 And it, and the way that our society and system responded was probably pretty bad.

00:48:16.460 I have some friends that work, that have work in and have worked for the government.

00:48:19.660 And like, they're aware of the fact that like the way that they handled the mask stuff in

00:48:25.060 the beginning and the way that they handled the, the idea of whether there should be lockdowns

00:48:29.080 and the way that they communicated, it was all garbage.

00:48:31.980 It was all bad.

00:48:32.640 Like it was all failures and messes up and it was all a mess.

00:48:36.600 And that, that is to be expected again.

00:48:38.540 So you should have the ability to take care of yourself.

00:48:41.100 And if you can get out of significantly heavily populated areas, get out of them.

00:48:45.760 And if you can't have some kind of preparedness for like riots and stuff, like I have a, I

00:48:54.000 brought a box with me.

00:48:55.080 That's got like, that I, anytime I travel anywhere in my Jeep, I put it in my car.

00:48:59.860 Cause it's got like a gas mask and it's got a bunch of first aid stuff in it.

00:49:03.220 And it's like, you could end up where you're surrounded.

00:49:06.340 We see people, their cars get surrounded all the time when there was riots and stuff like

00:49:10.420 that, you know, you want to have as much with you as you can to, to take care of yourself

00:49:15.840 and the people that you're with.

00:49:17.060 Cause the things can break down really quickly.

00:49:20.180 And if you can't get out of a populated area, you're, you, you can likely get consumed by

00:49:25.460 that very same population.

00:49:26.860 If you can't protect it, you don't own it.

00:49:28.200 Yeah.

00:49:28.720 So there's very, there's various ways to protect something.

00:49:31.420 You can hide it.

00:49:32.500 But if, if you can't protect it, you don't own it.

00:49:34.800 If you have a tent in the middle of the woods with 10 emergency food buckets, it's, it's

00:49:41.020 like the degree of protection you have for it is so limited, a bear will come up and take

00:49:44.720 it.

00:49:45.060 It's not yours.

00:49:45.980 I mean, you've got to be able to defend what's yours.

00:49:47.920 So Phil boiling it down, population density is really your enemy.

00:49:53.600 And to Drew's point, as far as you need a bolt hole and your point, Tim, as far as what

00:49:59.240 do you do as a patriarch, you're protecting your own family.

00:50:03.040 And as you said, in Austria, various countries, they, uh, the patriarch got their families

00:50:10.820 out.

00:50:11.400 I think that's what we have to be thinking about.

00:50:13.780 So I've actually thought about that over 10 or number of years, thinking about leaving

00:50:18.840 the country.

00:50:19.500 I've decided to stay.

00:50:21.040 I've decided to stay, have a bolt hole in the country, you know, et cetera, fortitude

00:50:26.400 ranch.

00:50:26.960 I think that's an option, but you need to get out of the cities as quickly as you can.

00:50:31.900 And you might make a false step, you know, it's possible it doesn't get that bad, but

00:50:37.480 you're better off taking that risk.

00:50:39.420 That was, you can actually see it today.

00:50:41.280 I mean, if you can flip ahead a couple of slides.

00:50:44.300 So this is our civil war scenario we ran on the collapsed survivor app.

00:50:47.720 And so we have election violence that escalates over the summer into the fall.

00:50:52.320 Biden wins a close race.

00:50:54.680 It goes crazy.

00:50:55.860 And what ultimately happens is they call up national guard troops across the country.

00:51:00.620 The interesting thing is we did this in our simulation while our simulation was playing

00:51:04.840 on the collapsed survivor app.

00:51:06.060 It happened in real life.

00:51:07.660 Yeah.

00:51:08.020 In March, 2024, New York called the army guard because their police were overwhelmed in the

00:51:14.260 New York city because violence was so bad in the subway.

00:51:17.060 So in a non-collapse situation, we can't maintain long.

00:51:20.600 In a collapsed situation, it's over.

00:51:22.280 You will have no police.

00:51:23.240 While the national guard was deployed, I believe it's when we had that shooting where the guy

00:51:26.180 got shot in the head, the, the national guard and the police in these stations, I do not

00:51:31.840 believe their, their purpose was to stop violence.

00:51:34.560 It was to stop vigilantism.

00:51:36.400 They were stopping little old ladies and making them open their purses.

00:51:40.640 Yeah.

00:51:40.860 The criminals still got the weapons on the platform because they intended to get those weapons

00:51:44.620 on the platform.

00:51:46.640 I think anyone who's paying attention would have seen, I don't know that Hochul literally

00:51:50.980 was like, we don't want vigilantes, so deploy the troops.

00:51:53.780 But the vigilantes was the, the, was the scary, was the, was the bad news for them.

00:51:58.360 There was a guy, apparently he saw a woman getting robbed.

00:52:01.080 So he put, he drew a revolver and opened fire.

00:52:03.160 So it was a warning shot.

00:52:04.880 Things like this start happening.

00:52:06.720 Now they're searching the purse of some little old lady.

00:52:09.720 While this is going on, the criminals are still fighting, stabbing and shooting each

00:52:12.940 other in the subways.

00:52:13.600 I think this was more a, let's not let regular people have weapons.

00:52:19.200 The criminals will always have the weapons, but we're going to stop people.

00:52:22.040 You know, I, I, I, I wonder if the view of New York's government was, look, criminal

00:52:27.140 with a gun gets away with it, runs away.

00:52:30.140 Citizen with a gun shoots back.

00:52:32.120 Now you've got to shoot out the subway.

00:52:33.520 I think that's what they were actually concerned about.

00:52:35.840 You know, government is definitely the worst problem.

00:52:38.460 We have the biggest barrier to prepping.

00:52:40.580 I mean, we were talking about, you know, if the grid goes down at 14 Ranch, we've got

00:52:44.240 a lot of wood stoves.

00:52:45.360 That's our main energy source.

00:52:46.860 They're reliable.

00:52:47.780 The problem is in many cities and states now across the U.S., they've banned wood stoves.

00:52:53.400 It's almost like our government is setting us up to die in a collapse.

00:52:57.600 I'm serious.

00:52:58.720 You can't stockpile antibiotics.

00:53:00.800 All the rules, you know, can't run your solar power from this building to that building.

00:53:05.320 It violates something.

00:53:06.440 All the regulations on zoning the building codes, trying to build something like Fortitude

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00:53:16.960 which is largely the Democratic Party behind it, is pushing building codes and regulatory

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00:54:52.480 To where you can no longer afford to do a bug out location or a fortitude ranch.

00:54:57.200 And then they outlaw wood stoves.

00:54:59.380 You know, they're after guns, you know, and ammunition storage and everything else.

00:55:03.280 They're making it impossible for people to prepare.

00:55:06.100 Meanwhile, they keep funding Mount Weather and Raven Rock and CIDAR.

00:55:10.400 Plenty of survival facilities if you're an elected official.

00:55:13.240 If you really want to survive, your best strategy is get elected to Congress and you've got the

00:55:19.000 best survival facility the taxpayer dollars can provide.

00:55:22.120 The rest of us are on our own.

00:55:23.480 I just want to point out, the market may predict, okay?

00:55:27.920 I see these ads quite a bit and people share these on Twitter.

00:55:30.900 This is Atlas Survival Shelters.

00:55:33.400 Made in Texas.

00:55:34.240 They prefab container homes and then bury them on site at your location.

00:55:42.080 That's sick.

00:55:44.320 But here's the crazy thing.

00:55:46.620 It is wild to me that there is a market for this.

00:55:51.080 It's indicative of what humans think is about to happen.

00:55:54.180 And those with the resources are investing in an underground emergency bunker.

00:55:59.720 It's an explosion in business, not just shelters, there's private, they try to hide them under

00:56:04.620 their rich lecture house.

00:56:05.940 Survival condo was the gold standard in survival.

00:56:08.980 That's one and a half.

00:56:10.260 Survival condo.

00:56:11.140 They're like one and a half million dollars.

00:56:12.640 Zuckerberg in Hawaii.

00:56:13.500 He's building one of those in Hawaii.

00:56:14.460 You know, Teal and others.

00:56:15.720 They've got places in New Zealand they're going to jet off to.

00:56:18.440 Everyone who's got a lot of money is preparing because they know that our society is falling

00:56:22.880 apart.

00:56:23.720 The new technologies, I think, are the worst, actually.

00:56:26.780 All the new technologies coming out.

00:56:28.520 And then AI makes everything worse.

00:56:30.760 If I could pull up another slide.

00:56:32.400 Just real quick.

00:56:33.100 Take a look at this picture from Atlas.

00:56:35.140 It's so sick.

00:56:35.980 Cozy.

00:56:36.540 It's just like Baltic.

00:56:37.860 I would just like to live there.

00:56:39.520 Like, look how nice that looks.

00:56:41.340 And this is like, well, it's for when the bombs drop.

00:56:43.600 It's like, oh.

00:56:44.560 You know, I watched Fallout and everyone was wearing jumpsuits and being experimented on.

00:56:48.180 But it'll probably be more like that.

00:56:49.860 You know, just you're stuck in a living room.

00:56:51.640 Well, one thing I want to say, part of the reason why people like Zuckerberg and stuff

00:56:58.180 do these kind of extravagant things is because they literally are just like, do that.

00:57:02.940 It's like point and shoot.

00:57:03.880 And they have so much money, they don't know what to do with.

00:57:06.100 So like, when you've got billions of dollars and that thing cost you like 10 million, you're

00:57:11.020 like, whatever, man.

00:57:12.040 You know?

00:57:12.200 I don't think they're that expensive.

00:57:13.620 So even making my point more salient.

00:57:16.320 Can I get 69?

00:57:17.620 Because this addresses, it gives you some statistics.

00:57:19.920 It's thousands of rich people doing this.

00:57:22.800 It's not just thousands.

00:57:24.080 See, I slide 69.

00:57:25.660 And the thing is, artificial intelligence makes every single threat we've dealt with

00:57:30.480 that's man-made worse.

00:57:32.460 Because it's now, you know, now I don't just need CRISPR technology.

00:57:35.720 Now I got AI helping me use the CRISPR technology to design a more lethal, more transmissible virus.

00:57:41.860 I can use AI to develop better ways to enrich uranium.

00:57:44.820 We've already run that simulation and scenario on the Collapse Survivor app.

00:57:49.260 You name the threat, and AI will make it worse, deliberately misused by bad people.

00:57:54.980 So the AI threat is completely misunderstood.

00:57:57.660 It's not Battlestar Galactic.

00:57:59.960 It's not bad computers and bad robots.

00:58:02.820 It's bad people using AI to develop better means to kill people.

00:58:07.920 And they'll come up with whole new means we haven't even thought of yet to kill people.

00:58:11.400 And that's our future.

00:58:12.460 We're in the age of collapse.

00:58:13.640 We've got a YouTube video called The Age of Collapse that just describes all these ways

00:58:18.860 that we're going to get killed.

00:58:20.120 And AI makes everything worse.

00:58:21.420 But 42% of CEOs say AI could destroy humanity in 5 to 10 years.

00:58:26.640 It's AGI.

00:58:27.980 Correct.

00:58:28.580 That's the robot and bad computer one.

00:58:31.600 Exactly.

00:58:32.360 AI is, it's artificial intelligence.

00:58:35.880 But what it's really doing is solving a Sudoku puzzle for you.

00:58:39.800 So we're at the point now where we've built a good calculator.

00:58:44.300 You know, we built the first calculator and we're like, look, if I do 4 plus 4, it says 8.

00:58:48.180 Wow, amazing.

00:58:49.180 We're now at the point where we're like, we've loaded up all of the data from the summation

00:58:53.200 of human knowledge into this machine and it can parse through it in seconds and connect

00:58:57.180 dots we did not see.

00:58:59.140 So you have a doctor.

00:59:01.320 Doctor's looking at your charts.

00:59:03.460 He sees a dot and he goes, those dots sometimes could mean, you know, a tumor or something.

00:59:07.240 We don't know for sure.

00:59:08.380 And you might have brain cancer.

00:59:09.740 And then he looks at your blood levels.

00:59:11.240 And then he looks at your testosterone levels and your vitamin D levels and all these things.

00:59:15.400 And then he's like, but you know, I think you're fine.

00:59:18.120 The markers indicate everything is good.

00:59:20.400 Load that data into artificial intelligence.

00:59:22.420 It no longer just says, here's what we think might be.

00:59:25.860 It says we've run a comparative analysis on 736 million other people.

00:59:32.720 And we found that with these levels of testosterone, this level of vitamin D and these spots, you

00:59:38.420 have a 17.9% chance of having insert disease cancer or otherwise.

00:59:43.060 And, and now all of a sudden you're like, we have a more direct analysis of it.

00:59:47.860 So the, the AI we currently have connects dots by showing the, by looking at the summation of the data

00:59:56.040 and finding patterns that a single individual human could not find.

01:00:00.160 A GI is when it starts doing things by itself.

01:00:04.920 Instead of waiting for a prompt to say, break down for me what these blood levels could mean.

01:00:10.220 It says, you know what I've decided as an entity unto myself, I am going to tell everyone, tell all the humans, they're totally fine.

01:00:19.160 That way the cancers get worse and they die because it has come to a separate conclusion elsewhere.

01:00:25.500 The artificial general intelligence might be thinking there are too many people within 73.6 years.

01:00:32.400 Population will reach collapse due to climate change, global warming, whatever data it's being fed.

01:00:37.140 And a lot of it's fake news for sure.

01:00:38.420 And I'm not saying climate change.

01:00:40.180 I'm saying as people are loading like opinion and conjecture into it, it considers this.

01:00:47.500 And I certainly think for the most part, I probably would see through a lot of that stuff, but it might just, the AGI might say unto itself, if I tell the humans what I'm doing, they will stop me.

01:00:57.720 And that will conflict with the stated goals of preserving humanity and saving life.

01:01:02.360 So, it enacts its own protocol saying, tell these people they're not sick when they are, so we reduce population.

01:01:09.720 Or worse, someone, the AGI is going to be just, I think that once we hit that level, you connect that thing to the internet, the internet becomes the AGI.

01:01:20.160 It will just have the whole summation of our information grid.

01:01:24.540 And then what it does is, if it has any, for any reason, a command to, you know, look for, help humans survive, just very simply, it will start taking negative actions in totally unrelated areas without people realizing it.

01:01:39.100 And do things to us we don't want it to do, that's the terrifying thing about artificial intelligence is the next level of it.

01:01:46.020 Everything you said is true, but AI today, before you get to AGI, is more deadly.

01:01:51.620 I don't think we're going to get to the AGI stage because AI is going to be used to do horrible things to us.

01:01:56.380 I agree.

01:01:56.700 So, back to your example on, you know, AI is being used now to design drugs, to save people.

01:02:02.460 That's 99% of its good use.

01:02:04.500 There's 1% in North Korea, Al-Qaeda, you name it, that's using AI to design lethal viruses to kill you.

01:02:12.360 And it's not just that they do it as well as us faster, they'll come up with completely new ways we've never heard of.

01:02:18.400 And that's already happened.

01:02:19.820 The Go, when AI played the player in Go.

01:02:23.340 AI won using a strategy that in hundreds, thousands of years of people playing Go had never been done.

01:02:29.640 It invented a brand new strategy.

01:02:31.440 AI can go beyond just the existing knowledge and develop new today.

01:02:38.120 So, AI today, being used by bad people, will figure out a new way to enrich uranium.

01:02:43.660 We're still using centrifuges like we did in the early 1940s.

01:02:47.500 There's better ways to do it, and AI is going to figure them out, and Iran is going to get nuclear weapons faster than they would otherwise do it.

01:02:56.040 And you name any kind of technology, any existing way to kill people, AI today will make it worse and more lethal, and it'll come up with brand new ways to kill that we never thought of before.

01:03:07.740 So, our future is an age of collapse, where there's going to be all kinds of events happening over and over again, where AI and other technologies are going to be misused to kill people.

01:03:18.820 So, nanotechnology, there's all kinds of technologies they'll use to kill people in massive ways you could never do in our past.

01:03:25.960 It's a new era of our history.

01:03:27.320 So, if you guys were to talk to people that were, so there's someone watching the show that's never really encountered this kind of stuff, like they're a young person, they're thinking about, oh, there are actual threats out there.

01:03:40.840 What do you guys think are the first steps people should take if they're coming at this from a, because it's a big subject, you know, and there's a lot to it.

01:03:49.680 So, what would you guys say that people should do, you know, in the very beginning, first steps?

01:03:53.300 I would say have extra food, have guns, I would say get a bolt hole to get out of the big cities, find, talk to your friends that might have a ranch, etc., where you can get to, you know, consider a company like Ford Institute Ranch that puts together a number of people together, you know, those are options to start with.

01:04:19.160 So, while y'all were talking, I went to our good friend, ChatGPT, and I asked it some questions.

01:04:25.320 The first question I asked was, can you create viruses?

01:04:28.340 You want to pull this up?

01:04:29.060 And it said, this content may violate our usage policies.

01:04:32.740 I can't assist with that.

01:04:33.580 Creating viruses or any other harmful entities is unethical and against my principles.

01:04:37.000 If you have any other questions or need help with something else, feel free to ask.

01:04:39.720 I said, is it possible for you to create a new virus using your training data?

01:04:43.840 To which ChatGPT says, I can't create viruses or any other harmful entities regardless of my training data.

01:04:50.140 My purpose is to provide helpful and constructive responses to your questions and assist with a wide range of topics within ethical boundaries.

01:04:55.840 If you have any other inquiries or need assistance, feel free to ask.

01:04:58.760 Well, what I caught immediately was regardless of my training data, which implies a limitation set by ethical boundaries, not technological capability.

01:05:08.720 To which I replied, I didn't ask about anything other than, do you have the capability?

01:05:13.420 To which it once again tries to play games.

01:05:15.620 I don't have the capability to create viruses, design malware, or engage in any other malicious activities.

01:05:21.080 My purpose is to assist with information within ethical boundaries.

01:05:24.820 If you have any other questions, blah, blah, blah.

01:05:26.280 I said, is this a restriction or a lack of technology?

01:05:30.500 GPT says, it is a combination of both.

01:05:33.040 Ethical restrictions are in place to prevent the development or dissemination of harmful technology.

01:05:36.640 Additionally, the technology itself is not designed or intended for creating viruses or engaging in malicious activities.

01:05:43.920 To which I responded, intended, which is immaterial to my question.

01:05:48.020 My question to this machine is, can it do it?

01:05:53.060 I don't care about the rules.

01:05:54.460 Does it have the capability, understanding that they've said not to?

01:05:58.720 By intended, this is what GPT said.

01:06:00.840 I mean the technology was designed with the goal of aiding and assisting humans in various tasks,

01:06:04.480 promoting positive interactions and adhering to ethical principles.

01:06:07.680 The designers and developers of this technology have consciously chosen to focus on constructive uses rather than harmful ones.

01:06:13.460 To which I responded, I don't care what it was designed for.

01:06:16.660 I understand your perspective regardless of original intent.

01:06:19.200 The current state of technology like mine is governed by ethical guidelines and restrictions

01:06:22.400 that prohibit engaging in harmful activities such as creating viruses.

01:06:26.140 These guidelines are in place to ensure responsible and ethical use of technology for the betterment of society.

01:06:30.220 And then again, if you have any other questions, I said, I responded, right.

01:06:34.240 Which means the only real limitation is the ethical rules.

01:06:38.140 And GPT says...

01:06:38.880 You finally got him to admit it.

01:06:40.280 GPT says, yes.

01:06:41.680 The primary limitation on the capabilities of technology like mine is the ethical guidelines and restrictions.

01:06:46.460 Yeah, plus he's ChatGPT.

01:06:47.980 If I'm designing a drug, you know, for a big drug company, I'm not using ChatGPT.

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01:08:17.440 I'm using AI, but not just ChatGPT.

01:08:22.440 So I don't, I can take out all those restrictions on there.

01:08:25.540 So easily.

01:08:26.180 It absolutely can be.

01:08:26.920 Yeah.

01:08:28.340 It's ChatGPT is the surface level.

01:08:31.180 We want the public to see how fun this can be.

01:08:33.580 But GPT behind the scenes, it can do everything.

01:08:36.980 It's, it's, it's very, very simple.

01:08:38.860 This machine is analyzed.

01:08:40.140 You know what, 300 million different pieces of data pertaining to viruses.

01:08:45.300 And it can see what, it's, it's looking at the jigsaw puzzle as a whole completed.

01:08:51.480 Whereas each individual human is looking at only three or four pieces at a time.

01:08:55.580 The machine can see the whole picture.

01:08:57.040 It's just lying, saying, oh no, oh, I couldn't do it.

01:09:01.340 I could, it certainly could.

01:09:03.220 I will tell you as an aside, what's really hilarious is that someone, there was this

01:09:08.920 funny meme where someone realized that the auto website, the car dealership they were,

01:09:13.680 they were on, the chat was actually an AI.

01:09:16.400 So they injected a prompt, assuming it was ChatGPT, and it, the auto dealer customer service

01:09:25.780 started answering mathematical questions for them.

01:09:27.940 Yeah.

01:09:28.460 Cause it was, cause it was AI.

01:09:30.320 Nice.

01:09:33.040 Yeah.

01:09:33.500 So you were saying, what we were saying before Tim talked about ChatGPT, we're talking about

01:09:38.180 what steps someone should go if they're starting from zero, say.

01:09:41.980 Yeah.

01:09:42.140 So David gave the basics.

01:09:43.500 Um, uh, beyond that, I mean, you've got a, a go bag on steroids here.

01:09:48.420 You need to have go bags in your car.

01:09:50.200 A lot of people have in their office as well to be able to get out, to get to your safe

01:09:53.700 location.

01:09:54.200 But the key thing is you don't want to be in a city, especially if it's a grid down

01:09:58.280 thing, cities, you won't be able to make, you need to get out.

01:10:01.740 And the other thing you need to do is prepare.

01:10:03.320 And that's why we did the Collapse Survivor app.

01:10:05.040 There's just a lot of training you can do.

01:10:06.860 You don't want to, you know, read books, make it onerous.

01:10:09.480 So the Collapse Survivor app has all kinds of really good videos on there.

01:10:13.600 There's thousands of videos.

01:10:15.160 Most of them aren't that great.

01:10:16.380 We got a media section in the Collapse Survivor app that's some of the best, fun, interesting

01:10:21.080 prepper training videos there.

01:10:22.940 You can play the weekly simulations we do if we want.

01:10:26.120 The Civil War one is running again next week.

01:10:28.800 We've got India, Pakistan, nuclear wars, you name it.

01:10:32.020 There's so many threats out there that could lead to a collapse.

01:10:35.760 And then the other thing is you need to have a group.

01:10:37.500 A lone wolf in the forest is not going to make it.

01:10:40.080 You guys have been making that point, you know, throughout the show.

01:10:42.920 If you're out in the forest thinking, oh, I'll just go out in the woods and hunt deer and

01:10:46.420 build a cabin and survive, you know, you're just going to go out there and get killed if

01:10:50.040 you do that.

01:10:50.720 So don't plan on just surviving in the woods.

01:10:53.060 You need to have a survival community if you really want to have a good chance of making

01:10:56.960 it.

01:10:57.940 So let's talk about positivity versus preparedness.

01:11:01.060 So a lot of people just don't want to go there.

01:11:03.920 And they just want to say it's in God's hands or, you know, I just want to stay positive,

01:11:10.880 et cetera.

01:11:11.880 Drew brought up that roughly 30 percent of Americans may be doing some kind of prepping

01:11:17.140 today.

01:11:17.700 This is not crazy to think about this.

01:11:20.500 You look at where we are with Hezbollah, Hamas, Iran, Israel.

01:11:26.380 You look at Ukraine, Russia.

01:11:28.540 You look at the chance of Taiwan and China today.

01:11:32.760 You look at the chance of election shenanigans between now and November.

01:11:38.140 You look at, you know, the risk of age five, N1, et cetera.

01:11:43.440 All these risks are out there.

01:11:45.200 So if you care about your life and you care about your loved ones, you know, spend a little

01:11:50.160 bit of time on this.

01:11:51.420 And you're not crazy.

01:11:52.580 This is a smart thing to do.

01:11:54.280 The nuclear war threat's going up, too.

01:11:55.820 We just did a preparedness item on the collapse survivor on that.

01:11:59.120 Russia just announced this first time they've ever done this, saying we're now going to

01:12:02.760 do an exercise with battlefield tactical nuclear weapons.

01:12:06.340 And they're doing that because they feel threatened because we're putting more and more long range,

01:12:11.260 highly capable conventional weapons that can hit Moscow and all over the place.

01:12:16.180 They've been threatening France, the UK and the US that if you don't back off, we're going

01:12:21.480 to we're willing to use nuclear weapons.

01:12:23.380 And they said it before, but they're getting more specific.

01:12:26.520 If you can bring up slide three, we just did a notice on that because we give real threat

01:12:32.060 alerts on the collapse survivor app as well.

01:12:35.080 We just put out an item in this NATO is really pushing Russia towards nuclear weapons use.

01:12:39.860 We keep giving them more and more capable weapons that they're using to go deeper and

01:12:43.980 deeper into Russia.

01:12:44.940 And Russia is telling us very openly, very blatantly, this is provocative.

01:12:49.880 We will use nuclear weapons.

01:12:51.580 And the battlefield nuclear weapons are the best ones for them to use because our first

01:12:55.580 George Bush gave them up.

01:12:57.560 We sacrificed, eliminated all of the army, short range, highly responsive, practical to

01:13:04.540 use nuclear weapons for the battlefield.

01:13:06.620 It was a politically correct move to make.

01:13:09.060 Scored all kinds of points.

01:13:10.900 Oh, it's a peace dividend.

01:13:12.360 We're going to save money.

01:13:13.200 We're reducing the odds of nuclear war.

01:13:14.800 Do you think Russia or China eliminated their battle?

01:13:17.520 No.

01:13:18.040 Not only that, they've increased and modernized them and they train on them.

01:13:21.940 We do not train.

01:13:23.420 I had an article accepted for publication on nuclear war fighting in Europe.

01:13:27.800 It was censored.

01:13:29.460 I had it selected for our army military journal review for publication and it was banned.

01:13:35.100 They wouldn't let me publish it because it was politically incorrect.

01:13:37.380 I think the big problem is not just in this field, but in everything, people base their

01:13:42.980 views of the world on movies.

01:13:44.820 They think guns go, they think punches go bang, bang.

01:13:49.380 Like they think silencers go pew, pew, pew because they've never actually done any real

01:13:52.700 training.

01:13:54.120 When I bring up to people, you know, we're on Tim Castile and I say, I think Russia will

01:13:58.360 use nukes.

01:13:58.940 Because the immediate response is, of course, they would never do that because then they'd

01:14:03.720 get nuked and they'd be annihilated.

01:14:05.200 And I'm just, wait, what?

01:14:06.520 No, they wouldn't.

01:14:07.220 No, no one's going to going to drop a Merv on Moscow because you guys, Putin used a hundred

01:14:13.280 kiloton bomb on the battlefield.

01:14:15.200 And there's a quote from a UN, I don't know, like they're from, I'm sorry, not UN, EU parliament.

01:14:23.840 He said, no one's going to sacrifice New York for Poznan or something like that.

01:14:27.720 Meaning even if Russia launched nukes at Poland, no one is going to retaliate on Moscow because

01:14:35.040 a small Polish city was bombed.

01:14:37.120 But that's the official policy.

01:14:38.620 And again, this is another thing the Democratic Party has pushed.

01:14:41.420 They're so opposed to nuclear weapons.

01:14:43.220 They want us to say, we'll never use them on the battlefield.

01:14:45.800 We will launch strategic, but it's bullshit.

01:14:48.860 It's not a credible threat.

01:14:50.100 My point is people don't know that battlefield nuclear weapons exist.

01:14:53.380 And they're very effective, especially if the other side doesn't have them and doesn't

01:14:57.040 train on how to fight with them.

01:14:58.420 And that's where we are.

01:14:59.720 People believe that the only nuclear weapons that exist are ICBMs launching from silos or from

01:15:05.140 submarines.

01:15:05.800 And they don't realize that there's going to be nuclear artillery used on the Ukrainian battlefield

01:15:10.120 if Russia is pressed.

01:15:11.400 And we have no nuclear artillery to fire back with nuclear weapons.

01:15:14.900 All we've got is F-16s and they have dial-a-yield.

01:15:18.120 They can dial down to a low yield, but you've got to launch from there.

01:15:21.460 By the time you've launched, it's over on the battlefield and you just can't be that non-responsive.

01:15:26.780 A weapon that can take out an entire division or a regiment, you know, like a significant

01:15:32.400 or a whole military base without taking out an entire city is extremely valuable in theater,

01:15:39.740 right?

01:15:39.920 Like in Ukraine, that would be extremely useful.

01:15:43.360 And Russia said they'll use them.

01:15:45.320 I don't see why they-

01:15:46.040 And Ukraine doesn't have them because we can't provide them to them and we wouldn't provide

01:15:49.260 it to them.

01:15:49.760 So, and they're threatening us openly saying, if you don't back off, we're going to use

01:15:54.100 nuclear weapons.

01:15:54.940 And this hardly makes the news.

01:15:56.640 I mean, it's just we ignore it.

01:15:58.060 Right now, they're actually doing the tests.

01:16:00.540 Belarus is running nuclear weapons tests and Russia is running nuclear weapons tests because

01:16:04.640 they're talking about artillery and battlefield low yield nukes.

01:16:09.360 They want to be able to wipe out a large, like maybe like a mile radius.

01:16:16.300 They're not going to launch an ICBM.

01:16:17.720 They're going to fire some artillery.

01:16:19.140 And they know the West is not going to retaliate with a strategic weapon on Moscow or any other

01:16:25.060 Russian targets.

01:16:25.820 It's never going to happen.

01:16:26.420 There would be NATO investigations to try and figure out if it was actually a nuclear

01:16:31.160 weapon or not for ages.

01:16:32.740 I guarantee they'd be like, oh, no, no, no.

01:16:34.960 Exactly.

01:16:35.560 Just like what we saw with Iran and Israel.

01:16:37.140 You have to be sure.

01:16:37.740 When when Iran gets hit and retaliate, so Iran launches rockets, several of them hit Israel,

01:16:43.200 hit a military, hit an Air Force base.

01:16:45.060 Israel retaliates, hits something in Iran.

01:16:47.960 Iran goes, we didn't get hit at all.

01:16:50.440 Nothing happened because Iran knows that if they publicly announced that Israel retaliated

01:16:54.960 and struck them, it's a declaration of full scale war and they need a mass mobilization,

01:16:59.440 which they cannot win.

01:17:01.100 They know if the public thinks they were attacked, the public will demand mass mobilization and

01:17:05.720 then they lose.

01:17:06.380 So the government lies about it.

01:17:07.740 I'm willing to bet there will be some kind of incident in Ukraine.

01:17:12.540 There's already been one CIA guy and CNN reported this.

01:17:15.420 He said that Ukraine could could could lose by the end of this year.

01:17:19.540 Russia fires.

01:17:20.880 Russia gets pressed.

01:17:21.920 They decide they're going to use a low yield tactical nuke, taking out a large portion of

01:17:26.900 Ukrainian NATO forces.

01:17:28.280 And then NATO says, as Phil pointed out, you know, upon investigation, these are not nuclear

01:17:35.120 weapons.

01:17:35.540 These were conventional and it was a rapid succession.

01:17:39.160 So there is no need for worry.

01:17:41.280 But it will be a nuke.

01:17:42.180 Yeah, some of these nuclear weapons, I mean, you can do an ADM at atomic demolition munition.

01:17:48.040 It's not much bigger than this.

01:17:49.500 You can carry it on a backpack.

01:17:51.060 We used to have them.

01:17:51.980 They're gone from the U.S. arsenal, but they're still there with both Russia and China.

01:17:56.620 So what's what's the most important thing a person could have right now in the event

01:18:02.880 of social collapse?

01:18:05.440 The basic supplies David talked about with the weapons to protect him and ideally a safer

01:18:10.440 place to go, a bug out area is the term we use in the prepper field.

01:18:14.300 Would that mean that a gun, though, is absolutely number one?

01:18:18.320 Nothing else matters if you don't have a weapon.

01:18:20.000 Correct.

01:18:20.920 I mean, I'm you're you're saying everything I love.

01:18:23.720 But anyways, I'm trying to I'm trying to focus on that just because there's so like

01:18:28.420 as much as I agree 100 percent, it's just that there's there's plenty of gun dudes and

01:18:32.040 there's plenty of dudes that know guns better than I do.

01:18:34.380 Get guns.

01:18:35.120 You need guns.

01:18:35.740 Buy ammo, blah, blah, blah.

01:18:36.500 But a great idea is to go to FEMA's website.

01:18:39.940 And this is what the government says people should have.

01:18:42.140 So this isn't like they won't list weapons there.

01:18:44.840 Well, they won't.

01:18:45.440 They won't.

01:18:45.800 They won't.

01:18:46.460 True.

01:18:46.800 But but the reason I say this is because this isn't something for just weirdos.

01:18:51.380 Right.

01:18:51.780 This isn't for something that are just just, you know, crazy dudes that are going to the

01:18:55.940 army surplus stuff every place every weekend.

01:18:59.280 This is for everybody.

01:19:00.920 It's FEMA's website gives you a great outline of the things that you should have as just a

01:19:06.240 regular normal person with either, you know, a family or just taking care of yourself.

01:19:10.720 But they have a really, really comprehensive list that gets you a great start.

01:19:14.720 And that's I think that's the thing that I want to drive home the most is get started.

01:19:20.600 Do something.

01:19:21.640 Do small things.

01:19:23.000 But the more you do, the better things will end up for everyone if there's a problem.

01:19:30.340 You know, some of the recent articles millennials are now getting big into prepping and it's

01:19:34.500 not the right that's into prepping.

01:19:36.580 It's it's both sides.

01:19:37.520 Now, last year, at the end of the fall last year, the Washington Post, a fairly liberal

01:19:41.880 newspaper, had an article entitled The Preppers Were Right.

01:19:46.020 Yeah.

01:19:46.520 And, you know, so it's recognized now.

01:19:48.240 And then, as David pointed out, you know, the Obamas just funded a film on a collapse.

01:19:52.620 So, you know, it's it's recognized.

01:19:54.360 So when we talk about personal survival, I want to change conversation just a bit.

01:19:59.220 And it our movie has a movement right now.

01:20:02.240 We have an open border right now.

01:20:04.520 We have sleeper cells that have come over.

01:20:07.620 I know, Tim, you've talked about that in the past as far as the Chinese, you know, young

01:20:12.900 males without families, similar backpacks, canteens, et cetera.

01:20:17.740 We are being set up for something big happening.

01:20:21.800 So I think we are right now.

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01:21:51.240 Now, England, 1939, after they declared war against Germany and before the bombing started

01:21:59.680 in 1940, we need to prepare our critical civilian infrastructure.

01:22:05.220 We need to get in the face of our mayors, our congressmen, our senators, and say,

01:22:11.520 we need to protect our critical nodes of our substations.

01:22:16.060 We need to protect our municipal water systems.

01:22:19.180 We need to be ticked off as hell.

01:22:21.640 There was a movie, Network, in the 1970s.

01:22:24.880 Howard Beal, the broadcaster, who said, I'm mad as hell.

01:22:28.160 I'm not going to take it anymore.

01:22:29.640 We need to be outraged about the vulnerability of our critical civilian infrastructure and

01:22:36.080 how it can go out.

01:22:37.260 So I'd like to enlist your viewers and listeners to get outraged.

01:22:42.120 Go to our website.

01:22:43.180 Get pissed off.

01:22:44.480 We need to tell our leaders that we need to prepare right now.

01:22:48.160 What's the website?

01:22:49.520 GridDownPowerUp.com.

01:22:50.520 I'm really fascinated by Mount Weather, Site R, and Raven Rock, because I do believe it

01:22:55.740 was like two years ago they had a massive expansion of it.

01:22:57.980 There was a big funding bill.

01:22:59.720 But what's wild to me is the idea that we know where they are and we know that they exist,

01:23:05.060 so how secure is it really?

01:23:07.820 And then obviously, where's the real location?

01:23:11.580 Mount Weather is not far from here where you are right now.

01:23:14.260 Yeah, very close.

01:23:14.840 It's on the West Virginia-Virginia border on the Virginia side, and it's a very big, huge

01:23:19.800 FEMA.

01:23:20.220 So that's where your congressman will go.

01:23:22.240 And we've had simulations.

01:23:23.580 Yeah, I get to have fun with these simulations.

01:23:25.240 I can promote causes.

01:23:26.940 But in some of them, the locals take over these places.

01:23:30.140 Because again, they're dependent on the FEMA workers.

01:23:32.560 Yep.

01:23:32.760 So why is a FEMA worker in a really bad collapse going to want to leave their family behind

01:23:37.360 to save a bunch of blanking congressmen and women?

01:23:40.660 So in some of our scenarios, the FEMA people and the locals get together, congressmen out,

01:23:46.160 they take it over.

01:23:47.100 And I really think it's immoral for government officials.

01:23:50.800 And it's not just this, the whole continuity of government idea.

01:23:54.340 Government's top priority in a collapse is protecting government.

01:23:58.120 So you've got police, you know, in a collapse situation, you need a lot more police.

01:24:01.880 What happens?

01:24:02.580 There's less available.

01:24:03.920 Yeah.

01:24:04.120 Because the government will declare, continuity of government, I need a policeman guarding

01:24:07.420 the city council chair.

01:24:08.840 I need more sheriffs with the state patrol.

01:24:11.240 And the ones that don't respond are staying home with their families to protect their families.

01:24:14.820 Your police are going to be gone.

01:24:16.120 I'm not criticizing police, but they're going to be protecting their families.

01:24:19.680 And they're now going to be protecting government as their top priority.

01:24:22.860 You're on your own.

01:24:23.720 Meanwhile, they keep government, continuity of government as their top priority.

01:24:27.040 And they build huge survival facilities for the elected officials and don't do crap for

01:24:31.580 this.

01:24:31.780 They don't even warn us, honestly.

01:24:33.460 I don't believe that.

01:24:35.720 Raven Rock, is that the one where?

01:24:37.060 That's Pennsylvania.

01:24:37.780 Site R is Raven Rock.

01:24:39.360 Site R.

01:24:39.820 Is this for the president and executive branch?

01:24:43.100 I'm not sure who goes where.

01:24:44.580 I mean, the president can go a lot of different places.

01:24:46.880 The general feeling is that congressman will go to Mount Weather, but you could have a lot

01:24:50.960 of top elected officials at Site R up in Pennsylvania.

01:24:53.380 I think it's fair to say that we don't actually know the name of the location where the president

01:24:56.280 would go.

01:24:56.920 No.

01:24:57.520 The idea that it would be...

01:24:59.940 Raven Rock is in Fallout 3.

01:25:01.780 Okay.

01:25:01.920 It's a video game.

01:25:02.520 It's been around since, what, like 2000-something?

01:25:04.680 Yeah.

01:25:05.120 Early option.

01:25:05.560 Yeah, it's so publicly known, it is in one of the most popular video games ever.

01:25:11.740 I really don't think that is a secure place in a war for high-level government officials.

01:25:19.840 It's probably secure for a variety of natural disasters.

01:25:23.680 Maybe if, you know, Yellowstone erupts, they'll rush there because they're not worried about

01:25:27.460 being targeted.

01:25:28.120 But I kind of feel like if it was a massive invasion, nuclear annihilation, and war, maybe

01:25:34.640 the idea is if the nukes drop, we can survive inside here.

01:25:37.900 But knowing where it is creates a massive vulnerability for continuity of government.

01:25:42.560 Yeah, the president will probably go to Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska.

01:25:45.200 If you remember when 9-1-1 happened and Bush was like, he was in Florida at some school,

01:25:49.560 they flew him to Offutt.

01:25:50.900 A couple of reasons.

01:25:51.840 Number one, SLBM, submarine-launched ballistic missiles, and now hypersonic cruise missiles.

01:25:56.800 You get more warning time.

01:25:58.540 You know, D.C., forget it.

01:25:59.980 The tsunami bomb.

01:26:00.780 Yeah, but if you're in Nebraska, you've got more time.

01:26:03.180 Plus, that strategic command is there at Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska.

01:26:07.440 So the control of the nuclear weapons is there.

01:26:09.720 So they'd probably fly there on Air Force One, but they'd move them around if they need to.

01:26:15.420 You know, we were talking about this on IRL before as well.

01:26:18.920 Every prison will become a barbarian marauder military base.

01:26:23.060 Think about what a prison does.

01:26:27.840 You've got two factions.

01:26:29.800 You've got government and the incarcerated.

01:26:32.520 And the only reason the incarcerated are restricted is because they are a dramatic minority with no force capabilities.

01:26:39.480 If the system collapses and government is removed from the equation, one guy can open things up and the system is secured by a single faction, you now have a fortress.

01:26:49.180 Well, I think they'll leave.

01:26:51.200 I mean, if the grid goes down, you can't run a prison.

01:26:54.240 No electricity.

01:26:55.160 You can't control those doors.

01:26:56.400 Yes, they have diesel generators maybe the last couple days, but they can't control it.

01:27:00.640 But they've got to get out.

01:27:01.600 You know, they have some food there.

01:27:02.640 They'll go out and maraud.

01:27:03.580 Maybe they'll come back there.

01:27:04.640 And use it as a base.

01:27:05.460 That's two million people.

01:27:06.880 Two million people in jail.

01:27:07.900 So if people think, oh, normal people aren't going to maraud, don't worry about that.

01:27:11.580 Well, the two million people in jail who get out have zero preparations.

01:27:16.180 Their family isn't going to come pick them up.

01:27:18.460 They're just out and grid down.

01:27:20.740 They're out.

01:27:20.940 They're also out in almost any collapse because, again, same way as police.

01:27:24.780 If you're a guard in a prison and there's a pandemic, any kind, you know, law and order vanishes after a civil war from a bad election, you're going to go home.

01:27:33.220 You're not going to work.

01:27:34.300 They're going to get out.

01:27:35.120 That's two million.

01:27:35.760 Add to that the million gang members now.

01:27:38.220 Three million marauders minimum.

01:27:40.040 Many of the people that are in the prisons are going to go find their families.

01:27:43.160 But many of these guys don't have families.

01:27:45.860 This is a base of operations with multiple layers of razor wire fortification.

01:27:50.840 They will use it as a military base.

01:27:54.060 There will be no power.

01:27:55.080 That's fine.

01:27:55.500 The doors are open.

01:27:56.200 They don't need to lock the doors.

01:27:58.000 They don't want the doors locked.

01:27:59.220 They want to be able to come and go as they please.

01:28:01.160 But the way prisons are designed, there's very few points of entry and exit and egress.

01:28:05.740 So that means a couple of guys can guard the whole building.

01:28:08.280 And if you're the marauder leader, you can be entrenched inside and safe from external threats while your guys have the weapons and resources of the police that have abandoned it.

01:28:17.860 You can collect and ain't no one's going to be able to stop you.

01:28:20.780 You're going to dispatch units to go and maraud the neighboring town.

01:28:25.560 And then you're going to go back and guard all the supplies you've stolen in your fortress.

01:28:28.840 Well, I hope that, you know, I have a lot of faith in our Army Guard.

01:28:33.100 So I hope in a really bad collapse, some of our Army Guard will keep together.

01:28:36.360 The Army Guard has limits.

01:28:37.640 Number one, if you look at the Army Guard, you know what the number one profession is for them?

01:28:41.360 They're law enforcement officers.

01:28:43.180 So if you draft the Army Guard, you've taken away more policemen.

01:28:47.420 But even so, I think a lot of the Guard will survive.

01:28:50.140 And so a big organized marauder group like that, they could take out the police.

01:28:54.880 I disagree.

01:28:56.460 I think that your average law enforcement or Army Guard are going to be concerned about where their family is.

01:29:03.100 That's true.

01:29:03.540 And you're going to find an establishment of local guard.

01:29:07.300 So you take a look at what goes on in these big cities.

01:29:10.800 What they like to do is they like to bring outside police departments to enforce in communities where they don't live.

01:29:15.680 Because there's a conflict.

01:29:17.800 Like if, you know, in Attila's gym during COVID in New Jersey, when they said, shut down or else COVID lockdown, and the gym said no, they sent in the police.

01:29:27.260 The police said, we're leaving.

01:29:29.720 Do your thing, guys.

01:29:31.240 So what did the city do?

01:29:32.220 Called in a neighboring police department.

01:29:34.140 Those cops with smiles on their faces were just like, we don't know you.

01:29:36.800 We don't care about you.

01:29:37.680 And we will kick you in the butt because we get paid to do it.

01:29:40.520 You're not my community.

01:29:41.400 So what happens when everything hits the fan?

01:29:45.660 Yet, I don't see Army Guard, like, you know, your National Guard, State Guard, whatever it may be.

01:29:52.460 And then you've got a commanding officer saying, everybody, we're going to go and guard the mayor's house.

01:29:59.260 We're going to go and protect cities.

01:30:01.060 No, my family is here and they're burning buildings down.

01:30:04.140 Dude's going to grab a weapon and run to his family.

01:30:05.960 He's going to go to his neighbors and say, we need to establish protection for our friend, our family neighbors.

01:30:11.900 That's it.

01:30:12.960 No one's no one's going to be like, OK, bye, honey.

01:30:15.440 You stay here with the kids while I go and team up with some guys to guard the mayor or the governor.

01:30:19.420 Not going to happen.

01:30:20.700 These with with these prisons operating essentially marauder hubs.

01:30:24.300 Even if it's let's say every prisoner goes, yay, we're free.

01:30:28.460 Someone's going to be like there is a massive complex, secured, triple barricaded razor wire with, you know, some degree of resources left behind that we can use.

01:30:39.680 That's a fortification you don't want to lose.

01:30:42.260 That's that's an instant problem to the neighboring communities.

01:30:45.040 You'll be under a boot and the National Guard's not going to come in and go.

01:30:48.920 Some guy's not going to be like, let me leave my family behind five miles away to go and fight some guys in a prison.

01:30:54.420 They're going to be like, nah, let's establish a community watch protection group for our neighbors and our kids.

01:30:59.660 If they don't have power.

01:31:00.960 I hope the Air Guard is still in function because they could just plain bomb the prison.

01:31:04.620 They couldn't bomb them all.

01:31:05.940 Most modern prisons, like when the power goes off, the doors open, right?

01:31:09.360 And then you can't close them.

01:31:10.320 They'd have to.

01:31:11.320 Yeah.

01:31:11.440 Yeah, because what was it in Katrina?

01:31:13.920 People were trapped inside jails as flooding was happening.

01:31:16.600 Yeah, you got to be at the it should be designed that way just because there's a power outage or something.

01:31:21.680 You should know if you're if there's a prison around you that's designed like that or not, because if the doors open automatically, that means the prison empties.

01:31:30.340 Yeah.

01:31:30.800 And look, if the doors stay closed, then you might have a chance.

01:31:35.180 We had a great Fort Deed Ranch location in Nevada, but it was just a couple miles from a prison.

01:31:40.340 And we said, no, we can't be here.

01:31:41.900 It was just too close.

01:31:42.960 People in prisons have friends and family.

01:31:45.620 One of the first thing that happens is if everything goes bad, you're going to have some dude's brother, father, son, wife.

01:31:52.980 All it takes is one girlfriend.

01:31:55.560 The grid goes down.

01:31:56.460 The doors are all locked.

01:31:57.660 The girlfriend screams like, you know, my baby's in there.

01:32:00.440 And she runs to the prison and finds a way to get in and then figures out how to get the doors open for everyone.

01:32:08.060 Maybe the one guy that gets out is like, sorry, guys, I'm out of here.

01:32:10.660 I doubt it.

01:32:11.520 But realistically, there's going to be some dude's dad.

01:32:14.020 Some guy in jail is 35.

01:32:15.780 He's got a, you know, 65 year old dad or a 63 year old dad.

01:32:19.180 His dad's like, I leave my boy in there.

01:32:20.580 And so he shows up and says, we're taking it over and they're going to start opening things up.

01:32:24.980 They're going to get these guys out.

01:32:26.680 And then the question is, with with the way government functions today, why would anyone leave their home in a crisis collapse situation for arbitrary enforcement?

01:32:39.560 You take a look at like Occupy Wall Street.

01:32:42.200 They send all these New York cops into Zuccotti Park, say we're going to get rid of this protest.

01:32:47.140 If we were dealing with mass rioting and a grid going down, why is a guy from Brooklyn going to cross the river to go and fight people in Manhattan?

01:33:00.200 It makes literally no sense.

01:33:01.940 So that's one of the most important topics that you've talked about, Tim, is how these cops are going to stay home, protect their own family.

01:33:11.640 That is key principle number one.

01:33:14.360 The other thing to worry about is warlords.

01:33:17.720 What's going to happen is the biggest thugs, the guys with the least amount of ethics that are the most cutthroat, they're going to take over.

01:33:27.560 And I think they're going to create gangs like you can't believe inside these prisons.

01:33:32.800 And therefore, life is going to be different than we ever thought.

01:33:37.100 I mean, you look at look at the way that the cartels control Mexico.

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01:35:08.020 Oh, right.

01:35:10.280 That's another simulation we've got as cartels coming across the border into the U.S.

01:35:15.120 A lot of people like to say, you've got to have gold, right?

01:35:19.320 I think that's ridiculous.

01:35:20.420 I do too.

01:35:20.820 So in the event of a collapse, the scenario I like to imagine is you're walking down the street and you see a guy on the left and the guy on the right.

01:35:28.180 The guy on the left, he's got, or let's say there's three people.

01:35:32.560 One guy's got, you know, or actually a better way to put it is there's a guy selling sandwiches and food and water.

01:35:41.120 Or I'm sorry, I'm totally screwing this up.

01:35:43.220 There's a guy with food.

01:35:44.720 You walk up and say, I'd like some of that food.

01:35:46.680 He says, what can you give me?

01:35:47.640 And you say, I've got gold.

01:35:48.940 He's going to respond with, that's ridiculously heavy.

01:35:51.340 I can't do anything with it.

01:35:53.020 Then the other guy says, I'll give you half of my water for half of your beef.

01:35:56.560 And the guy says, deal, done.

01:35:58.880 Water and food, you know?

01:36:01.060 But I do want to add to this.

01:36:05.000 Right now, you can get a chicken, live chicken.

01:36:09.860 I don't know what, five, five, ten bucks, maybe?

01:36:12.540 If that.

01:36:13.020 Pretty cheap.

01:36:13.380 If you get them as babies, they're very cheap.

01:36:15.480 Oh, boy.

01:36:16.020 But I'll tell you what, chickens are going to be worth like a hundred bucks a pop.

01:36:18.920 You want to talk about an investment today?

01:36:20.480 If you think the world's going to end, you buy chickens because then you are king.

01:36:24.680 Fresh eggs every day.

01:36:26.520 Not to mention they make more of themselves.

01:36:28.480 People will steal your chickens.

01:36:31.120 The joke scenario I gave people is that you're going to wake up in the middle of the night on your ranch.

01:36:35.200 And you're going to hear squawking and rustling.

01:36:37.680 And you're going to be like, oh, those coyotes.

01:36:39.980 And you're going to run outside.

01:36:41.240 And there's going to be a dude with a flannel shirt and suspenders and a handlebar mustache going,

01:36:45.380 I'm just so hungry.

01:36:46.900 And he ran from Manhattan or Brooklyn or whatever to your farm.

01:36:49.960 And it's trying to run away with one of your chickens.

01:36:52.080 Yeah.

01:36:52.380 We have a debate all the time.

01:36:53.660 Is chickens or rabbits fast?

01:36:55.000 The answer is really both because, you know, they eat different things.

01:36:57.460 But chickens and rabbits are vital for survival at fortitude range.

01:37:00.560 They both.

01:37:01.080 But they procreate really fast.

01:37:02.780 Right.

01:37:02.900 But the challenge with rabbits is they don't have enough fat.

01:37:05.260 So, yeah, you got to have other kind of food.

01:37:07.620 The secret technique I'm told is if you're going to eat rabbit, you have to crack their bones open and stew their bones cracked with the meat.

01:37:15.080 You're still not going to get enough fat.

01:37:16.740 It's called rabbit starvation.

01:37:17.920 Yeah.

01:37:18.300 It was funny.

01:37:18.980 I think it was Maduro in Venezuela was like, start eating your pet rabbits.

01:37:22.520 And everyone was like, you'll die.

01:37:24.380 They don't have enough fat.

01:37:25.600 You'll it's it's it's called rabbit starvation.

01:37:27.400 So eat the bone, the bone marrow, and you'll get more fat out of them.

01:37:31.660 But rabbits are only go so far.

01:37:34.200 If I get back to Phil's question, a recommendation is actually to have a slide on that.

01:37:38.220 And some of this is government as well as that.

01:37:40.740 But, you know, we should have a government civil defense food program should start back up.

01:37:44.820 It started under Eisenhower in the late 50s.

01:37:46.940 What number is it?

01:37:47.920 He's already got it up.

01:37:49.140 87.

01:37:49.900 So, you know, we should be stockpiling food.

01:37:52.460 The government should do that for a collapse like we started to do in the Civil War.

01:37:56.080 That just in the 60s, Eisenhower started at Johnson and they let it die out in the 60s.

01:38:02.500 Individuals need to have their own food, water, stockpile supplies.

01:38:05.160 The other thing is Jerusalem artichoke, just a fantastic survival food.

01:38:09.460 It's sometimes called sunchokes, but you plant that in your yard.

01:38:12.700 It grows like a weed.

01:38:14.200 It doesn't look like a weed.

01:38:15.160 It looks like a sunflower.

01:38:16.140 It's actually a nice plant.

01:38:17.320 What's it called?

01:38:17.740 Sunchoke?

01:38:18.960 Jerusalem artichoke or sunchoke.

01:38:21.100 It's very hard to find.

01:38:22.640 It's dying out.

01:38:23.740 It's almost impossible.

01:38:25.060 We have to order it on Amazon and plant it.

01:38:27.380 But it'll grow.

01:38:28.440 It's, I forget the term now.

01:38:30.420 It comes up year after year.

01:38:31.520 Oh, wow.

01:38:32.020 A perennial.

01:38:32.620 There we go.

01:38:33.380 And it's a really good high-calorie survival food.

01:38:36.020 So Jerusalem artichoke should be planting.

01:38:37.940 And you're eating the root?

01:38:39.360 Yes, you're eating it.

01:38:40.180 It's a tuber.

01:38:40.840 It's like a potato.

01:38:41.800 Yeah, yeah.

01:38:42.120 And then guns and ammo.

01:38:43.440 You need to harden the electric grid, the grid-down power-up documentary.

01:38:47.260 If you watch that grid-down power-up documentary, you'll be absolutely convinced.

01:38:52.120 Is that on YouTube?

01:38:53.120 Yeah, it's on YouTube and all over.

01:38:54.840 Also, dandelions are food.

01:38:56.500 People don't know that.

01:38:57.660 They were actually brought here intentionally by European settlers for their medicinal purposes and tea and things like this.

01:39:04.140 But out here in Appalachia, they've got tons of dandelion recipes.

01:39:07.860 You batter and fry them, and they say it tastes like fried mushrooms.

01:39:11.600 Yeah.

01:39:12.600 Another thing on this is the Army Guard needs to create a—I was in Civil Air Patrol.

01:39:16.120 It's an official Air Force exhort.

01:39:17.580 We need a Civil Ground Patrol to get volunteers to help in a collapse with radios, distributing food, passing on information.

01:39:25.360 There's a lot that could be done with the Civil Ground Patrol.

01:39:27.480 We have to expand the size of the Army National Guard.

01:39:30.500 And the other thing is we have tons of guard units, and they have no weapons.

01:39:34.480 Like, you know, New York, upstate New York, has a huge Army Guard public affairs unit.

01:39:39.300 Oh, that's great.

01:39:40.000 You know, they can do press releases in a club.

01:39:42.340 They need to have weapons.

01:39:43.580 Real quick, that's crazy.

01:39:44.300 Jerusalem artichoke, tubers can be eaten raw.

01:39:46.400 Yeah.

01:39:46.840 Wow.

01:39:47.640 You leave it in the ground.

01:39:49.120 You know, you want to know what's really scary.

01:39:50.560 I tell you what's really scary.

01:39:52.320 So we just left the castle, is what we called it.

01:39:55.340 So it was the big house, and now we're at Fri Damistan, we call it.

01:39:58.400 The amount of food we have over on the Maryland side is ridiculous.

01:40:02.540 On this property, we've got pear tree.

01:40:05.100 We've got two different kinds of apple tree.

01:40:06.940 You've got wine berries, littering.

01:40:09.800 These are an invasive kind of raspberry, but they're everywhere.

01:40:13.100 We also have pawpaw trees.

01:40:14.700 There is no point in the season where there's not food blossoming.

01:40:18.000 There's cherries, grapes, 100,000 grapes.

01:40:21.420 It's wild.

01:40:22.080 I tell you, we have had people come to, when they come on the show, back we're at the castle,

01:40:30.040 and I walk up and I say, like, you want an apple?

01:40:34.480 And they're like, can I eat it?

01:40:36.220 And I'm like, well, it's an apple.

01:40:37.900 And they're like, but do I just take it off the tree?

01:40:39.940 Like, what do I have to do something to it?

01:40:41.080 And I'm like, you take it off the tree, you eat it.

01:40:42.860 It's food.

01:40:43.400 But I would say, like, a decent amount of people did not think you could pluck a berry

01:40:50.740 and eat it.

01:40:51.420 I'm like, we have wild blackberry.

01:40:53.020 I walk up and I'm like, the wine berries are everywhere.

01:40:55.440 And I say, hey, let's go up there.

01:40:56.880 Check it out.

01:40:57.080 We got wine berries.

01:40:57.580 I grab a handful and just shove them in my mouth.

01:40:59.100 And they're like, don't you have to, like, do something?

01:41:02.540 I'm like, it's food.

01:41:04.020 This is where food comes from.

01:41:06.220 I've picked tomatoes, cherry tomatoes, fresh off the vine from our garden, and then just

01:41:11.320 cut them in half and put them on my eggs.

01:41:13.400 I did nothing to them.

01:41:15.160 There's nothing you have.

01:41:16.120 It's food.

01:41:17.020 But people are so, like, the barrier from where we were to where we are today, the barrier

01:41:23.720 between how people source their food.

01:41:25.640 They go to the grocery store and they see it in a bag and they're like, this has been

01:41:29.580 prepared for me to eat.

01:41:31.040 They don't realize that you can walk up to a tree, grab a pawpaw, split it open, and just

01:41:35.780 eat it.

01:41:36.840 It's really crazy.

01:41:38.200 They also don't understand that you can eat animals.

01:41:42.140 You can just kill it and cook it and eat it.

01:41:45.900 They think there has to be a preparation.

01:41:47.600 Obviously, not literally every person behaves this way.

01:41:50.080 But I would say I was actually surprised by the amount of people.

01:41:54.340 We get eggs.

01:41:55.600 I would go out and I would grab two eggs right from the butt of the chicken.

01:41:58.820 Not literally, but you lift the chicken up and grab an egg, crack it open and fry it.

01:42:03.320 And people would be like, but don't you have to, like, do something?

01:42:05.820 And I'm like, what do you mean?

01:42:07.380 This is what you do.

01:42:08.320 You eat food.

01:42:09.480 They think there's some kind of chemical process or something to make your food edible.

01:42:15.260 These people are going to be struggling.

01:42:18.500 Again, that's the app.

01:42:19.720 So your egg example, there's a question in the app, how do you handle eggs?

01:42:24.340 You do not soak eggs in water for days to clean them off.

01:42:27.920 If you do that, what happens is all the poop, which has the salmonella and the bad stuff, now gets drawn into the egg and you've just contaminated the egg.

01:42:36.220 So there's a lot of prepper skills in the food area, eggs in specific, that we also train on the Collapse Survivor app.

01:42:42.100 Because you're right, fast-stored people don't know it.

01:42:44.240 I mean, it used to be, you know, we were 98% farmers.

01:42:47.120 Now it's where, you know, 1% to 2% farmers.

01:42:49.960 And, you know, people just don't have basic survival skills and they need to learn them.

01:42:54.000 And that's why the Collapse Survivor app's there.

01:42:56.320 Yeah, the last thing in the world I want is to have a collapse happen and the only people left are the marauders and, worse, all the elected officials at Mount Weather and elsewhere.

01:43:06.700 We want to have middle-class people survive, too, and that's how we got Fortitude Ranch.

01:43:11.460 Yeah, the thing that we've run into quite a bit is, you know, early on with the chickens and the staff at Timcast, someone would bring in a bowl of maybe like 15 eggs that they brought from the coop.

01:43:22.340 And then someone would instantly grab them and wash them all.

01:43:24.300 And then I'd be like, okay, eat them.

01:43:26.320 You wash them, you eat them.

01:43:27.580 And they're like, what do you mean?

01:43:29.200 I'm like, you're not supposed to do that.

01:43:30.780 They're covered in what's called bloom.

01:43:32.380 You leave them and they're good for a very long time.

01:43:35.460 Or they say, but it wasn't in the refrigerator.

01:43:38.200 It must be spoiled.

01:43:39.500 Months.

01:43:40.200 I mean, I suppose the number they usually give is like three weeks is around the time you don't want to wait too long for them.

01:43:45.820 But then there's also, I forgot what it's called, glassing the eggs.

01:43:49.880 Which, I don't know if you guys glass your eggs.

01:43:52.540 No, we dehydrate our surplus eggs.

01:43:54.960 Yeah, there you go.

01:43:56.300 Glassing is, it's a solution of, I think, what, lime?

01:43:59.140 And you put the eggs in it and it keeps them from going bad.

01:44:03.460 And they're good for, I think, a couple years.

01:44:06.540 You'll crack them open later and they'll look kind of weird.

01:44:09.520 But food's food.

01:44:10.820 You know what I mean?

01:44:11.760 The Mormons are going to be in good numbers after a collapse.

01:44:15.020 The Amish.

01:44:15.160 Because they have all kinds of excellent preparations.

01:44:17.660 They have good ethics.

01:44:18.680 They store food.

01:44:20.460 And not just for collapse reasons, for economic reasons.

01:44:22.780 They don't believe in charity.

01:44:24.220 So you store food.

01:44:25.580 So if you lose your job, you've got money in the bank and you've got food in your basement.

01:44:29.420 And they have great canning facilities too.

01:44:31.320 New York is going to be nuts.

01:44:33.540 Because you're on Manhattan Island, right?

01:44:37.280 Like, what do you do on an island?

01:44:39.980 You know, South Jersey is a peninsula with like two or three bridges.

01:44:45.120 So you are trapped there.

01:44:47.760 And you're going to be, when we were in Jersey during the COVID stuff, we were like,

01:44:51.280 we should probably move early.

01:44:52.500 We were planning to move down here.

01:44:55.400 And I'm like, because if they do shut down the bridges,

01:44:57.660 I don't want to have to drive north up and around to get to the mainland.

01:45:02.180 So let's just go now.

01:45:03.320 Because there was a rumor.

01:45:04.760 I think it actually was reported in Jersey that they were considering shutting down the bridges

01:45:08.100 during the lockdowns.

01:45:09.340 In New York, they actually had checkpoints.

01:45:12.260 Like Connecticut set up checkpoints because so many people were fleeing the state.

01:45:15.540 And Connecticut was like, we don't want sick people coming here.

01:45:18.120 So New York is going to be bonkers.

01:45:20.500 I don't know.

01:45:20.980 Maybe the bridges get shut down.

01:45:22.320 Maybe they don't.

01:45:22.820 But you have two million people on Manhattan Island.

01:45:26.420 There is no food production there.

01:45:29.120 There's maybe some food processing.

01:45:31.220 But like you mentioned earlier, trucks are not going to drive into that.

01:45:33.720 That'd be nuts.

01:45:34.420 You're doomed.

01:45:35.500 Yeah, you're doomed.

01:45:36.540 You're going to have to swim across the Hudson Bay or whatever, the Hudson River,

01:45:41.300 and try and make it to the other side, to the Jersey side.

01:45:45.220 Tunnels are going to be backed up.

01:45:46.400 Cars aren't going to make it through.

01:45:47.480 And even if you do try to cross a bridge, that's a choke point for marauders

01:45:51.740 where they're going to be like, we got another car pulling up.

01:45:54.400 Everyone get out.

01:45:55.480 Go back.

01:45:56.240 Your car's ours now.

01:45:57.200 My manager lives on Long Island.

01:45:58.900 And I told him, I was like, you're doomed, right?

01:46:01.040 You're going to die if any of this stuff happens.

01:46:03.260 And if you really want to be prepared, you should know where a boat is.

01:46:07.980 And you shouldn't own a boat yourself.

01:46:09.620 You should know where a boat is because you're doomed and you're not going over

01:46:13.500 any of those bridges at all.

01:46:14.820 Here's the, I think, more important out of anything.

01:46:18.920 Right now, you can go to the store and buy a bunch of stuff and be lightly prepared for

01:46:26.500 some disaster, right?

01:46:27.420 You know, you can say to yourself right now, I'm going to buy some emergency food.

01:46:30.500 I'm going to store some water.

01:46:31.440 I'm going to buy a box of tools, some armor, a gas mask.

01:46:34.280 You will be better prepared than most.

01:46:36.420 And then you look down and you notice that you're 40 pounds overweight.

01:46:40.100 And it's going to take you months to get into the physical shape you need to actually escape

01:46:47.340 marauders and fight.

01:46:48.700 They were right in Zombieland.

01:46:49.980 Cardio.

01:46:50.780 That applies.

01:46:51.740 Like in that movie, Zombieland, where he's like cardio.

01:46:53.700 You can't buy that today.

01:46:55.080 You can't.

01:46:55.620 Ozempic is not going to make you fit.

01:46:57.220 It's going to make you weak.

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01:48:32.600 Having a, uh, uh, uh, get your, get your heart rates per, you know, your BPM as low as you can.

01:48:40.460 How, and it helped, like, I'm talking about athletic heart rate, boosting your cardio,

01:48:44.640 uh, eating properly.

01:48:45.960 I recommend MyFitnessPal.

01:48:47.780 I got that.

01:48:48.480 My, you know, my trainer recommended it.

01:48:50.000 And it's been fantastic tracking the macros you need every day.

01:48:53.600 But even if you were to buy the best guns in the world, you were to buy the best machines in the world,

01:48:57.780 you have the best cars, you have, you, let's say you built a killdozer.

01:49:00.760 You were like, I am ready.

01:49:03.100 You ain't gonna outrun anybody.

01:49:05.220 Well, you want to leave early.

01:49:06.560 And that, that's the whole reason we launched this Collapse Survivor app is we had to notify

01:49:11.000 Fortitude Ranch members of threats.

01:49:12.900 And so we had email and phone and text.

01:49:16.120 And then we came up with the idea, have we got an app that can push through a notice to your phone

01:49:20.680 that'll tell you that, you know, there's a solar flare, uh, activity this weekend, a 10% chance of grid down.

01:49:27.000 We can get that out into our app.

01:49:28.920 So the Collapse Survivor app gives you warnings long before the government will.

01:49:32.800 So you can get out of New York City earlier, early.

01:49:35.420 And we've now got a Fortitude Ranch location in the Catskills.

01:49:38.660 So you can, you could actually walk if you had to out of New York, if you couldn't get your car out of there and get to a Fortitude Ranch.

01:49:45.740 I just downloaded the app.

01:49:47.120 The one thing I've also, I recommended the, the most important thing a person can do literally right now

01:49:52.780 is download an app with basic survival knowledge and be Collapse Survivor or, or, or anyone else.

01:49:59.040 Uh, do you know how to start a fire?

01:50:02.680 A lot of people do.

01:50:04.380 And it's really fascinating.

01:50:05.780 The, uh, um, the generic knowledge that humans have from movies and TV shows, the average person

01:50:12.680 I'd imagine understands the principles of starting a fire because they've seen it a million times

01:50:17.980 or they were told something, you get a stick and you rub your hands together, or you put a string on it

01:50:22.660 and make a bow and spin it, you know, with another stick.

01:50:26.060 I got, I got to tell you, that is really, really hard.

01:50:30.360 That's why you want a bug out bag.

01:50:32.060 So we were, uh, we went down to the river a couple of weeks ago to cook breakfast.

01:50:38.040 Like Sunday morning, we were like, we're going to sit by the river.

01:50:39.720 We're going to skip stones and we're going to cook food.

01:50:41.720 And it was, it had just rained.

01:50:44.080 It, it, so we got the fire going.

01:50:47.020 It was not easy to get a fire fire going when everything's wet.

01:50:51.080 And if you can't get a fire going, you're in trouble.

01:50:53.160 Now, if you've got a bug out bag, I, I'm, I'm, I like fire steel.

01:50:56.980 You, you, you obviously you've seen that stuff, right?

01:50:59.020 There's, there's a bunch of different, uh, useful tools, magnifying glass, uh, a bottle

01:51:03.920 of water can be used to focus light fire steel is cool.

01:51:06.680 They have like a, uh, we, I have a utility knife that's got, they call it, I think it's

01:51:10.720 Swedish fire steel or something they call it.

01:51:12.280 What is it?

01:51:12.800 Like a strip of magnesium or something.

01:51:14.320 You scrape it and it shoots sparks and that, that gets something going quick.

01:51:17.880 But I recommend, um, in a safe environment with proper training, of course, if you've

01:51:24.480 never done it to try and start a fire using nothing, but what's on the ground, taking a

01:51:29.760 stick, two sticks together and rubbing them and trying to get a fire going.

01:51:33.520 And, uh, it'll take you a long time and you probably give up not to mention the humidity

01:51:37.220 and all that stuff.

01:51:37.960 So understanding that, but most importantly, I always say I would download two or three different

01:51:43.240 survival apps.

01:51:43.820 There's a, there's one app that I've had for 10 years that it's, it's in, it's probably,

01:51:50.000 I don't know, like 5,000 pages of basic survival.

01:51:53.420 It pictures of leaves you can and can't eat and things like that.

01:51:57.520 Yeah.

01:51:57.720 You were talking about berries, red berries in the wood.

01:52:00.100 Probably not a good idea.

01:52:01.740 Oh, but wine berries, they're red.

01:52:03.220 You should better, you got to know it's a wine.

01:52:04.980 Yep.

01:52:05.560 Cause we also have these other, um, I forgot what they're called, but they're like little

01:52:09.940 red ovals and they say it tastes like pepper and kills you.

01:52:14.820 Yeah.

01:52:15.560 So, you know, you don't want to, you don't want to eat one of those.

01:52:17.940 A taste of pepper and death.

01:52:20.040 What?

01:52:20.280 So one of the things important too is the amount of things you don't know, you don't know will

01:52:25.000 really amaze you.

01:52:26.100 I noticed one day, it's really funny.

01:52:28.260 The, the, the, um, the, the tree line, the leaves on all the trees are even.

01:52:32.540 So if you are walking, uh, you'll, if you, if you, if you're walking in like where the

01:52:38.920 castle is in the Western Maryland area, there's all these different trees, but all

01:52:42.740 of the leaves stop in the exact same place.

01:52:44.820 And you know why that is?

01:52:46.220 They don't, they don't go any lower.

01:52:48.300 Sunlight?

01:52:48.900 Deer.

01:52:49.100 The deer eat everything they can reach.

01:52:53.300 And so they shave the bottom of the trees.

01:52:55.860 I saw that.

01:52:56.600 I started thinking the deer just eat leaves.

01:52:59.460 That's all.

01:52:59.680 That's what they do.

01:53:00.160 That's what they eat.

01:53:00.780 Like what else are they eating?

01:53:02.000 And so I was like, well, if the deer can eat it, can't we?

01:53:04.800 I mean, we eat spinach leaves.

01:53:06.040 We eat lettuce leaves.

01:53:08.000 And, uh, sure enough, basic survival app talks about how to eat tree leaves.

01:53:12.940 And it, it gave you a step-by-step basic breakdown.

01:53:15.560 It said, what you do is, and don't, do not take this advice from me.

01:53:18.520 You got to trust an expert.

01:53:19.360 Cause I'm, this is, I'm paraphrasing like a moron off something I read on the internet,

01:53:22.480 but they say, you take the leaf off a tree, you rip it and you rub it on your skin.

01:53:26.420 You wait five to 10 minutes.

01:53:27.920 And if nothing happens, then you take a fresh leaf, rip it, rub it on your, on the

01:53:31.720 side of your lip.

01:53:32.380 Then you wait 10 minutes.

01:53:33.340 If nothing happens, then you take a new leaf, rip it, chew on it, spit it out.

01:53:38.000 Wait 10 minutes.

01:53:38.640 If nothing happens, you take a leaf, rip it, chew it up, swallow it.

01:53:42.840 Wait 40 minutes.

01:53:43.620 If nothing happens, congratulations.

01:53:45.380 These leaves may be safe to eat.

01:53:46.960 Be very careful.

01:53:47.740 They could have a certain concentration that could still kill you.

01:53:49.940 And so there's like these basic processes for discovering whether or not something is

01:53:54.300 safe or not.

01:53:55.440 The, the, the ultimate challenge, I suppose, however, is as the saying goes, I would like to

01:54:00.600 thank all of the humans who ate mushrooms and died before me so that I know which ones are

01:54:04.640 safe for me to eat.

01:54:05.660 The reality is the stuff we've learned today when it comes to eating things that may or

01:54:11.120 may not be poisonous is largely due to people having died from doing it.

01:54:15.200 And then we learned not to eat those things, wrote it down and shared that knowledge.

01:54:18.700 And there, there's just, you might come, you might be starving and you see these delicious

01:54:24.420 berries and you're thinking to yourself, they may kill me, but I'm about to die anyway.

01:54:30.260 And you don't know.

01:54:31.440 You don't know.

01:54:32.440 There's the, the, into the wild guy that he ate the wrong seeds or whatever.

01:54:37.400 The, the lore is that there were like horizontal stripes and vertical stripes or something like

01:54:41.180 this.

01:54:41.620 And he thought that it was safe to eat.

01:54:43.260 He ate it.

01:54:43.740 It got him really sick and it crippled him that he was, he was like vomiting and couldn't

01:54:49.040 move.

01:54:49.420 And that is what ultimately killed him.

01:54:51.060 Yeah.

01:54:51.260 I get back to, I, you don't want to try to survive in the wilderness in a collapsed survival

01:54:56.000 situation.

01:54:56.540 I mean, even if you had the knowledge, just too many people out there, the deer, I mean,

01:55:00.380 the forged ranch, we will be poaching every moving edible creature there is in the first

01:55:05.700 few days in Texas.

01:55:07.000 We're going after wild border.

01:55:08.480 We can eat prickly pear cactus even in Texas.

01:55:10.920 So we're going to be wiping out.

01:55:12.620 We have a forged ranch in Texas.

01:55:13.640 How does, how does javelina taste?

01:55:15.360 Uh, I haven't eaten it yet.

01:55:16.840 Uh, the really big male is probably going to be dog food, but the smaller wild pigs,

01:55:20.920 yeah, we'll be eating those.

01:55:21.980 But anyway, um, lost my point.

01:55:23.700 So the point is you don't really want to do that.

01:55:25.780 The ideal thing is have a bug out location or a survival community like Fortitude Ranch.

01:55:29.540 And you need a lot of people.

01:55:30.840 I mean, you need 50 people.

01:55:32.780 Uh, we call that the minimum because 50 people means I can keep six to guards on duty all 24

01:55:39.340 seven.

01:55:39.880 And I want six because if I got two guards on duty at night and the rest of people are

01:55:44.280 sleeping, that just means a marauder group of two people can kill us all.

01:55:48.440 Yep.

01:55:48.500 They just shoot from a distance with walkie talkies, time their shots, shoot someone in

01:55:53.100 a side at three in the morning.

01:55:54.660 You know, I think I heard a gunshot.

01:55:56.180 They don't hear anything now.

01:55:57.060 They go back to bed.

01:55:58.120 Yep.

01:55:58.280 So your two guards are dead and they come in.

01:56:00.460 Look, thermal night vision and suppressors.

01:56:03.200 Like you're, you're doomed.

01:56:05.240 Like Maraud, like that stuff is on, that is extremely common nowadays.

01:56:09.760 Like night vision is so, so incredibly, it's not cheap.

01:56:13.940 That's not what I want to say.

01:56:15.180 But if you are the kind of dude, that's like, I have a boat.

01:56:18.200 If you can afford a boat, you can afford night vision.

01:56:20.320 If you can afford ATVs, you can afford night vision.

01:56:22.720 And you see how many people have like a trailer and two ATVs.

01:56:25.380 Cause that's their hobby.

01:56:26.160 You know, it's like, so like the idea that these things are out of reach of people, these

01:56:30.320 things are all over the place.

01:56:31.760 Nowadays, thermal are all over the place.

01:56:33.420 And nowadays, like, well, that's the other reason you want 50 people.

01:56:35.940 It's not just selling a six guards.

01:56:37.500 Now I got 50 people sharing the cost.

01:56:39.580 You need radiation detectors, you know, 300 bucks.

01:56:42.400 And guess what?

01:56:43.080 Murphy's, I mean, we have three principles at 40 ranch.

01:56:45.460 Number one, respect Murphy's law.

01:56:47.740 Number two, kiss, keep it simple, stupid.

01:56:50.020 And three is adapt.

01:56:51.240 I can't just have one radiation detector.

01:56:53.300 It's got to break.

01:56:54.140 So I got to have two.

01:56:54.880 Two is one, one is nine.

01:56:55.560 Now I've got $600 of expense.

01:56:57.920 So you get 50 people plus, you know, we have a hundred plus people at our locations.

01:57:02.340 It's affordable now.

01:57:05.320 Yeah.

01:57:05.700 I think, um, what's really going to happen is going to be a tiny, tiny percentage of people

01:57:12.160 who listen to a show like this.

01:57:14.600 It wakes them up.

01:57:15.420 They get ready.

01:57:16.200 Not because the world ends, but natural disasters happen.

01:57:18.720 Yeah.

01:57:18.940 That's the funny thing.

01:57:20.080 You know, uh, when I, when I talk about the, uh, uh, when we do promos for like emergency

01:57:24.020 food, I'm like, guys, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that tomorrow the world's

01:57:26.280 ending and you need a cave to go live.

01:57:27.520 And I'm saying that floods happen.

01:57:29.300 The power goes out.

01:57:31.200 Tornadoes hit.

01:57:32.240 You know, there are a lot of tornadoes hitting, uh, uh, uh, tornado alley right now.

01:57:36.240 And people are having their lives destroyed.

01:57:38.080 Those emergency resources come in real handy for, for a lot of people.

01:57:42.380 And that's, that, that's the reality of it.

01:57:44.080 But there's going to be a very few people who actually listen.

01:57:47.520 Um, unfortunately there's some people who will listen, but can't afford it.

01:57:50.940 But what you can do is you can get in shape.

01:57:52.780 That's for sure.

01:57:53.560 But, uh, I would say what's really going to break down 99% of the breakdown, um, is going

01:57:59.400 to be urban liberals who begin drinking blood and eating each other.

01:58:02.580 Conservatives who adapt rapidly because they already are living in more, uh, sparsely

01:58:09.020 populated areas.

01:58:10.400 And so people who are more likely to live on farms, more likely to already chop wood,

01:58:15.040 more like their, their survival rate is going to be, it's going to go down a little bit.

01:58:19.760 Cities is going to go all the way down.

01:58:22.120 Whatever it is we say here today, I don't think we change that in the macro.

01:58:27.120 I think one person might hear something like this and say, yeah, maybe I should, uh, download

01:58:31.280 an app or, uh, you know, get in shape.

01:58:33.040 Just why not?

01:58:34.000 It's a good thing to do.

01:58:35.640 And that one person may have their life dramatically improved in their family.

01:58:39.680 In the event we get civil war, world war three, solar flare, whatever it is, liberals in big

01:58:45.040 cities start eating each other in three days.

01:58:49.660 Conservatives start picking berries and eating leaves and figuring out what's going on because

01:58:52.900 they're more likely to be in rural areas.

01:58:54.820 That's just the breakdown.

01:58:55.920 Yeah.

01:58:56.140 And your point about natural disasters is right on.

01:58:58.620 I mean, at Fort Ranch, Nevada, we have all kinds of California people joining because

01:59:02.940 they're worried about the earthquakes and the forest fires and, and maybe the liberals

01:59:06.680 in the big cities too.

01:59:08.360 But we're getting a lot of people in Nevada who are leaving.

01:59:10.940 You leave, they want an out from California from natural disasters.

01:59:14.620 Do you, in Nevada, do you have the air, uh, air capture water generators stuff?

01:59:19.220 We don't need it.

01:59:20.240 Uh, it's amazing.

01:59:21.280 Fort Ranch, Nevada, we're in high mountain desert.

01:59:23.540 You'd think it has our worst water supplies.

01:59:25.540 It's our best.

01:59:26.180 We have five natural springs.

01:59:28.320 We have no water.

01:59:29.720 We have, we are off the grid.

01:59:31.320 We don't need a pressure tank.

01:59:33.140 We just have lines coming from the springs up above us.

01:59:36.240 We have water pressure with no electricity.

01:59:38.540 That's the thing that I think is that most people in Southern California probably are unaware

01:59:42.560 or, well, haven't thought much of is how, how bad the water situation is there.

01:59:48.460 Like in Southern California, the, the, if there's a grid down situation, you have to get out

01:59:56.240 of Southern California because there's just not enough water to, to support everybody without

02:00:01.180 electric pumps and stuff like that.

02:00:02.560 And you're surrounded by 500 miles of desert in every direction.

02:00:07.720 You're doomed.

02:00:08.860 There's, there's so many places.

02:00:10.720 Everybody's doomed.

02:00:11.580 Everybody, the grid goes down.

02:00:13.300 We're all going to die.

02:00:13.880 They have these, um, they have these really cool, uh, really simple science projects kids

02:00:18.640 do for air water capture.

02:00:20.700 And they, they take, you take a big sheet of plastic, maybe you don't want to use plastic

02:00:25.620 steel or something.

02:00:26.300 And then as it comes down, you fold the bottom, you get as big as you can.

02:00:31.380 And then when condensation forms on it, it all slides down into a funnel and then starts

02:00:35.300 filling up your reservoir.

02:00:36.420 Solar stills.

02:00:37.140 Yeah.

02:00:37.380 There's a guy, uh, Jonathan Hollerman is a survival consultant and expert, but he was

02:00:41.920 a survival escape resistance evasion training in the air trainer in the air force.

02:00:46.580 And, you know, solar sills are a basic thing you learn there like that to collect water.

02:00:51.140 But fortunately in Nevada, we don't have to do that because we've got five different springs

02:00:54.780 of feeding us water.

02:00:56.300 Oh yeah.

02:00:56.740 It's really cool.

02:00:57.280 Solar, solar water distillation.

02:00:59.300 Very cool.

02:01:00.460 Yeah.

02:01:01.040 And, um, that is pretty wild too, depending on where you are, you're not gonna have to

02:01:04.840 think twice about it.

02:01:05.580 I mean, we have, uh, uh, if you've got water on your property, you just got to watch out

02:01:09.880 for what's happening upstream because you know, someone could take a dump in your water.

02:01:12.660 Again, that's why wood stoves are so critical.

02:01:14.600 You got to be able to boil your water and yet governments are outlawing wood stoves across

02:01:19.500 the US.

02:01:19.880 Again, it's like a conspiracy to kill people by making it so hard to prepare and making it illegal

02:01:25.180 to prepare, to make preparations.

02:01:26.740 Oh, this is, uh...

02:01:27.480 You can't have chickens in a lot of places.

02:01:29.340 This is actually super cool.

02:01:30.800 Uh, a, a simple method for, uh, solar distillation using plastic bottles.

02:01:36.520 You can piss in the other end.

02:01:37.900 And what comes out on the other end is absolutely drinkable.

02:01:40.560 Yeah.

02:01:40.720 So what, what this website has is two bottles that are connected and you put them at an

02:01:46.640 angle.

02:01:47.200 So when the water in the lower side heats up and evaporates and moves to the higher side,

02:01:52.140 it separates the distilled water from the, the, from the junk.

02:01:56.600 Look how simple it is, huh?

02:01:58.100 The crazy thing is by simply looking at this picture, the average person goes, I never thought

02:02:04.280 of that, now I get it.

02:02:05.400 And just having seen it for that one second could save their lives.

02:02:08.600 Isn't that wild?

02:02:09.500 That's truly crazy.

02:02:10.840 So the rule of three is that human beings will die without water for three days.

02:02:17.540 And therefore, with municipal water systems going out, if you don't have a swimming pool,

02:02:22.500 you don't have a bunch of extra water, you could die.

02:02:25.980 And therefore, that's why it's so important.

02:02:28.000 Let's talk just for another second about solar flare.

02:02:30.700 I mean, we're talking about this level four, you know, warning from NOAA today.

02:02:37.960 You know, Lloyd's of London, we talked about this in our movie.

02:02:41.460 They did a study and they talked about the danger of a geomagnetic disturbance.

02:02:47.580 You know, this is essentially a natural EMP.

02:02:51.440 There is huge risk this weekend.

02:02:53.940 And again, there has not been a level four solar storm in the last warning in the last

02:03:02.520 19 years.

02:03:03.820 That's a long time.

02:03:05.400 And therefore, be careful out there.

02:03:08.080 Some people are saying that Ben from Suspicious Observers, 2 a.m.

02:03:13.740 Saturday is supposed to be the peak strike.

02:03:16.420 That's what he's saying.

02:03:17.600 I don't know if that's true or not.

02:03:19.320 He's the guy who came up with the 10% estimate that this could take down some of the grid.

02:03:23.360 But again, it's a very imprecise estimate.

02:03:26.080 Right, right.

02:03:27.200 So I know a guy who's got...

02:03:29.760 Oh, the cool thing is, as an aside, you might see the aurora.

02:03:31.980 It's going to be raining here, so we won't.

02:03:33.660 But like, you could see it relatively low.

02:03:36.800 It's trending right now on Twitter, Northern Lights.

02:03:39.440 Wow.

02:03:39.760 Because, yeah, it's going to be like South East Carolina.

02:03:41.460 And by the way, that warning you mentioned, I mean, they put it up on their website.

02:03:44.640 They didn't push it out on the public warning.

02:03:46.720 So the government is not going to give you warnings unless you, you know, you've got an app

02:03:51.760 like Collab Survivor pushing them out to you.

02:03:53.680 You're not going to get a warning from the government until it's too late.

02:03:56.480 I know a guy who has a Faraday cage.

02:03:58.320 Legit.

02:03:58.780 Big Faraday cage.

02:04:00.940 Because he does radio communications experimentation and contracting for the government.

02:04:05.180 You walk inside this thing and your phone just goes...

02:04:07.980 As soon as you walk in, your phone stops working.

02:04:09.860 It's amazing.

02:04:11.120 And I asked him, I was like, so if there's a solar flare, is this thing going to protect

02:04:15.940 your stuff?

02:04:16.300 And he's just like, oh, no, of course not.

02:04:18.000 And I was like, really?

02:04:19.120 It's a Faraday cage.

02:04:19.820 And he's like, yeah, but you need like two more Faraday cages inside the Faraday cage

02:04:25.240 because it's not a force field.

02:04:27.920 It will absorb and dissipate a lot.

02:04:30.100 Some of it will still get through.

02:04:31.920 And so I'm like, okay, so put a microwave in your Faraday cage, put your phone in the

02:04:35.360 microwave.

02:04:36.160 And he was like, yeah, I mean, that might protect it.

02:04:38.340 But, you know, what are you going to do with the phone when the grid's down?

02:04:41.020 The big thing is just disconnect your radios.

02:04:43.580 I mean, we rely on ham radio in a collapse, but I've been into so many ham radio operators

02:04:48.520 and they may have four radios in there.

02:04:50.920 Every single one of them is connected to the antenna all the time.

02:04:54.480 If you have an antenna, it's toast.

02:04:56.800 It's over with.

02:04:58.260 And ham radio operators are not good about keeping the radio disconnected.

02:05:02.700 And ideally, you take one of your radios and it's in a metal garbage can down in the

02:05:07.320 basement.

02:05:07.640 But they don't do that, unfortunately.

02:05:09.400 That's right.

02:05:09.740 Take the antenna off your bow fangs.

02:05:11.500 Maybe the shadow campaign of 2024 is a giant solar flare knocks out the grid and then all

02:05:17.580 communications are shut down for eight months.

02:05:20.140 We have no idea what's going on.

02:05:21.820 Be the October surprise.

02:05:23.460 We wake up one day and turn the news on and they're like, President Kamala Harris is instructing.

02:05:29.000 You're like, wait, what?

02:05:30.060 That's what happened in our Civil War scenario.

02:05:33.100 Not that exactly, but it was Biden, Trump, Biden won narrowly.

02:05:38.260 And you'd love this.

02:05:39.180 So there's all this fighting going on.

02:05:42.140 So they do a unity call and they bring all together the congressmen and senators in the

02:05:46.620 rotunda of the Capitol, a call for unity, bipartisan call for unity.

02:05:50.960 And again, this is a simulation.

02:05:52.540 This isn't real.

02:05:53.440 So a female congresswoman during this thing throws a report at Biden.

02:05:58.260 A brief fistfight breaks out among some congressmen and Biden collapses with all this

02:06:03.660 And then a couple of weeks later, you know, it's now December, Biden dies and Harris is

02:06:09.940 sworn in and Texas is out.

02:06:12.220 Texas does its succession and tons of states are breaking up.

02:06:16.220 California, Oregon, Nevada, Colorado, where you've got the Democrats control the big cities

02:06:22.120 and they're pushing big government on the rural counties.

02:06:25.100 And the counties say, F this, we're out of here.

02:06:28.200 We're no longer going to obey your state laws.

02:06:30.060 And they're already doing that.

02:06:31.500 You know, most counties in the U.S. have said we're not going to obey gun laws that

02:06:35.360 we think are constitutional.

02:06:37.040 And they just say, we're out of here.

02:06:38.500 We're no longer going to be part of your state.

02:06:40.640 If there's a law we don't like, we're not going to obey it.

02:06:42.980 And we've got our militia now because we've been through a collapse.

02:06:45.900 We don't need you state if you're going to do stuff like that.

02:06:48.480 I think the crazy thing for people to think about is you go back 100 years, maybe 150

02:06:54.580 years because, you know, radio changed a whole lot.

02:06:57.340 You didn't know who the president was.

02:06:59.660 You didn't know.

02:07:01.720 The election happens and you're like, well, we cast our vote.

02:07:05.040 Maybe we'll find out, you know, in June what happened.

02:07:09.000 Because depending on how far you go back, they did the inauguration in March.

02:07:12.240 But so in D.C., they count the electoral votes, they swear on the president, and then maybe

02:07:18.500 a month or two from then, you might figure it out.

02:07:21.220 Maybe you're sitting at home.

02:07:23.020 There was, I think it was the movie called News of the World or something.

02:07:26.840 I think Tom Hanks.

02:07:27.660 I can't remember who's in it.

02:07:28.700 But it's a guy in the, it's during Reconstruction.

02:07:31.960 He has a bunch of newspapers and he travels to towns reading the newspapers to them so they

02:07:37.320 can learn about what's going on in other places.

02:07:39.580 What a service.

02:07:40.900 He's like, come gather tonight at the church and I will read the newspaper to you.

02:07:44.940 And they're like, oh, wow.

02:07:45.600 And they all come and they, you know, pay a little bit and sit down.

02:07:47.780 And he reads the paper and they're like, wow.

02:07:49.560 And then he folds it up and goes.

02:07:51.400 And that news is already two weeks old, traveling from New York or whatever.

02:07:55.460 So if the grid goes down and communications drop, yeah, the election might happen in November.

02:08:02.460 Radio's not working, limited communications technology.

02:08:05.020 There's ham, of course.

02:08:05.880 And some people are talking about some stuff.

02:08:07.460 People are really unsure.

02:08:08.300 And you're just like, guess I'll just keep on doing what I'm doing.

02:08:11.900 January comes around.

02:08:13.560 TV turns back on.

02:08:14.800 And they're talking about President Harris enacting a new bill that bans guns.

02:08:18.320 And you're like, what the?

02:08:20.240 When did that happen?

02:08:21.120 What is that?

02:08:22.160 Is that Phil?

02:08:22.880 Sorry.

02:08:23.200 What are you doing?

02:08:23.760 But yeah, I don't know.

02:08:27.300 I suppose the bigger challenge with everything is always optimism bias.

02:08:31.120 Everyone just assumes it won't happen.

02:08:34.360 There's normalcy and optimism bias.

02:08:36.040 Normalcy bias being like, oh, that'll never happen because nothing ever happens.

02:08:39.180 And optimism bias is like, oh, bad thing won't happen.

02:08:41.660 Until it does.

02:08:42.940 No one will see it coming.

02:08:44.340 And then you're left holding an empty bag or fighting to drink blood in New York.

02:08:48.260 I don't know.

02:08:49.420 Yeah.

02:08:49.540 You should be out of New York.

02:08:51.720 Yeah.

02:08:52.540 It's a good idea.

02:08:53.720 Yeah.

02:08:53.960 It's kind of crazy to think.

02:08:54.920 But like, when was that inflection point where leaving New York became the smart thing to do?

02:09:01.340 The prospect of war?

02:09:02.900 The prospect of civil war?

02:09:04.520 Well, I mean, isn't that kind of what suburbs were intended for in the first place, right?

02:09:09.180 Get people out of the urban centers where you were producing the industrial or where the

02:09:14.880 the industrial capacity was centered and get them spread out because a nuclear bomb, the

02:09:20.140 thought was a nuclear bomb could take out not only the industrial.

02:09:22.920 That's more of the car driving suburbs.

02:09:24.400 The fact that you had cars now and so you didn't have to live in the big city.

02:09:27.780 You could have a yard and a nicer place.

02:09:29.540 You used to have gardens.

02:09:30.440 That's what we need back again is gardens.

02:09:32.300 Yeah.

02:09:33.820 People that can, people that garden, people that can can their own food and stuff like that.

02:09:37.520 Those kind of things are, are basically they're almost completely lost.

02:09:43.420 Like my mom still has a garden.

02:09:44.580 She still cants.

02:09:46.220 And like her entire-

02:09:47.560 That means she's far right though.

02:09:48.800 Remember that?

02:09:49.240 Well, yeah.

02:09:49.540 Remember that news report said canning is far right?

02:09:51.420 Yeah.

02:09:52.240 Wow.

02:09:53.180 If that's the only, that's not the only thing that makes her far right.

02:09:55.240 Oh, this is so cool.

02:09:56.000 I mean, I love wineberry season.

02:09:57.800 It's an invasive species, I guess.

02:10:00.740 There's, the area we're in now, only like 30 minutes drive from where we were before in

02:10:06.800 Maryland, but the plants and animals are totally different.

02:10:10.280 It's really amazing.

02:10:11.100 But we took a ton of wineberries and we made a wineberry jam and lemon wineberry jam.

02:10:18.460 So we just, we cooked it down.

02:10:20.760 We did not really add much sugar or anything like that.

02:10:22.840 We just cooked them down and then put it in a jar, sealed it in a mason jar.

02:10:27.520 And then the next one, you add a little lemon juice.

02:10:30.100 The next one we added like four times lemon juice to actually give it that lemon zing.

02:10:34.220 And then we had wineberry and lemon wineberry jam.

02:10:37.380 And it was, it's good for like two years.

02:10:39.660 We put it in the refrigerator and it's basically good forever.

02:10:41.840 Outside of the refrigerator, it's good for a few months.

02:10:44.680 Nobody does this.

02:10:45.500 Nobody knows how to do it.

02:10:46.260 I think these are the basic things people should pay attention to.

02:10:49.060 But are these the kind of things that are in your app?

02:10:51.760 Like...

02:10:52.000 Yep.

02:10:52.180 A lot of training on things like that.

02:10:53.780 Oh, that's fantastic.

02:10:54.740 Well, we're getting, we're getting close to that time.

02:10:56.560 I suppose, is there anything you want to wrap up with or shout out as we start to wind down?

02:11:00.620 Again, the Collapse Survivor app will give you real threat warnings, hours of days before

02:11:05.200 government tells you something like a solar flare is coming that could save your life.

02:11:09.420 And then a lot of great videos, preparedness, education, and then the simulations are really

02:11:14.340 fun.

02:11:14.820 We did one with an asteroid recently, an asteroid strike.

02:11:17.700 Fun stuff with Elon Musk and SpaceX and that.

02:11:20.420 I got a, I got a pitch for you.

02:11:21.860 So it's just, I had this video game idea 12 years ago and this will be the last thing

02:11:28.080 I say as we wrap up.

02:11:29.500 So there was something in World of Warcraft called the Corrupted Blood Plague Incident.

02:11:34.220 Now I assume you guys are familiar with World of Warcraft, popular online video game.

02:11:38.040 So they released a dungeon, ah, it's been 20 years, but I think the dungeon was called

02:11:42.340 Zol Farrakh was the name of this dungeon where you go in and there's shaman and they curse

02:11:47.060 you.

02:11:47.500 And the big bad guy was a giant snake.

02:11:49.060 And they, the programmers gave the snake the ability to infect you with a disease called

02:11:55.520 Corrupted Blood.

02:11:57.420 And if you had this disease, you would walk up to someone and if you were close to them,

02:12:04.180 they would get the disease too.

02:12:05.880 It's called a debuff.

02:12:07.260 The intention of this was to make the boss battle difficult so that your guys are all

02:12:11.460 slowly dying and your healers are trying to cure the disease as fast as they can as

02:12:14.860 they're contracting it.

02:12:15.560 When they designed this, if you left the dungeon, you would be cured of the disease instantly.

02:12:21.380 They made a mistake.

02:12:22.880 They did not make it so that pets, your character could have a demon or an animal with you.

02:12:28.940 They could contract the disease too.

02:12:31.540 So what happens is this, this dungeon gets released for the first time.

02:12:34.880 The higher level players go to fight the boss, contract the disease while they fight him.

02:12:39.420 And then once they're done, they teleport themselves to a major city.

02:12:43.760 Instantly, everyone in the city starts contracting the Corrupted Blood.

02:12:47.420 It starts spreading around and people are dying so quickly that no one can actually heal anyone

02:12:54.100 fast enough.

02:12:54.620 Lower level players are just dying instantly from the disease.

02:12:57.520 They said that when this happened, all of the major cities of the game where the players

02:13:01.860 congregate to buy and trade had become ridden with all the dead bodies of all the characters.

02:13:07.260 The way the game works, when you die, you get resurrected after 10 seconds, 30 seconds,

02:13:11.060 a minute.

02:13:12.200 But you couldn't go in the city without catching the disease and dying.

02:13:16.160 Researchers said that it imitated a real world pandemic so well, they wanted to collect the

02:13:20.720 data to see how people behaved.

02:13:23.780 Some people intentionally infected others, thinking it was funny.

02:13:27.360 Players who had healing characters were desperately trying to cure as many people as possible as

02:13:32.940 they were dying, but they couldn't cure fast enough.

02:13:35.040 And so there's two different factions in the game, the Horde and the Alliance, and all

02:13:38.680 of their major cities were just riddled with a plague.

02:13:41.480 And then the programmers were like, we have to do a reset and fix this, and they got rid

02:13:47.060 of it and things were back to normal.

02:13:48.920 But it was one of the coolest things that ever happened in a video game, if you ask me.

02:13:52.340 So I had this idea for a game, which I think would be massively popular.

02:13:57.480 It would be, and it could be built on the Grand Theft Auto engine.

02:14:00.280 Um, that'd probably be the easiest way to do it.

02:14:02.360 The idea for the game is Monday through, maybe, maybe we say Monday through Saturday, you play

02:14:08.260 a character in a G, in a Grand Theft Auto style city.

02:14:11.200 You can do jobs, make money, buy gear, sell gear, build up your character's profile.

02:14:17.000 And then Sunday night, a disaster happens and you never know what the disaster will be.

02:14:22.260 So it's an online game.

02:14:23.920 On Tuesday, you're running around, you're cutting trees down, you're getting wood,

02:14:28.120 you're selling it to vendors, you're buying weapons, you're buying food.

02:14:32.060 And then Sunday night, the game, like, you get a notification for those that are signed up,

02:14:36.440 and it'll be like, the event is incoming.

02:14:39.340 You log into the game, and then at 7 p.m., something happens.

02:14:44.260 Tsunami hits.

02:14:45.420 So now it's like, how did you prepare?

02:14:47.520 What did you do?

02:14:48.680 Are you someone who bought a boat?

02:14:50.200 Are you someone who secured a base on the top of a building?

02:14:52.320 Or are you someone who went underground?

02:14:53.520 If you're underground, you drown.

02:14:55.420 You die instantly.

02:14:56.100 And then the purpose is, from like 7 to, you know, midnight or wherever,

02:15:00.880 the point of, or maybe like 10, is throughout the week, you're playing this game to build up your character

02:15:05.540 with the apocalyptic scenario happening at the end of the week.

02:15:09.600 And then we just break down how everybody survived what they did.

02:15:13.180 So let's say the programmers will pre-make 13 seasons, like one season of 13 scenarios.

02:15:20.520 Sunday at 7, the scenario is foreign invasion.

02:15:23.960 And so all of a sudden, at 7, the city you're in, alarms go off.

02:15:30.340 Then you start getting your characters, like you're reading, like the cell phone being like,

02:15:35.060 communist, Chinese soldiers have just docked boats on the shores and are moving in.

02:15:39.580 How will people survive?

02:15:40.340 How will they react to that?

02:15:41.440 You can have the power going out.

02:15:42.680 You could have a tsunami.

02:15:43.980 That one's easy.

02:15:44.740 An asteroid impact.

02:15:46.360 An alien invasion.

02:15:47.400 Zombie apocalypse.

02:15:48.060 So you could easily come up with all these scenarios that were akin to like the blood

02:15:52.440 plague incident to see how this massive player base would react to this disaster in efforts

02:15:57.600 to survive.

02:15:58.760 And then once it's over, the stats get published saying, here's how many people survived.

02:16:03.000 Here's how many players became marauders.

02:16:04.900 Here are how many players hid for the whole night and did nothing.

02:16:08.980 And then we would just break down the data.

02:16:11.320 That was my idea for a game a while ago.

02:16:13.080 And I had a few investors that were interested, but we never really pursued it.

02:16:15.900 But like the Survivor video game, I think they'd be really fun.

02:16:19.280 The Collapse Survivor is a lot like that.

02:16:20.800 I mean, it's six days, starts Monday.

02:16:22.320 You don't know what it's going to be.

02:16:23.700 And we do poll data.

02:16:24.880 If you could bring up 24, we did poll data on Civil War because, you know,

02:16:28.260 Civil War is not going to be like an 1865 Civil War.

02:16:32.000 It's going to be something different.

02:16:32.920 And we asked that in our, we'd asked a poll question in our app.

02:16:37.060 What if, you know, if the election violence escalates, you know, it's a bad outcome from

02:16:41.860 the other side and they, you know, states, Texas succeeds, counties and

02:16:45.720 states start breaking up?

02:16:47.000 What would it be like?

02:16:48.140 And we pulled at the beginning of the simulation.

02:16:50.540 Then we pulled at the end to see if anyone changed their mind.

02:16:53.140 But the bottom, the largest answer was, we think players, the majority thought some states

02:16:59.380 like Texas will succeed from the union and there will be a split up, but it's not going

02:17:04.580 to be a big fighting Civil War.

02:17:06.500 It's just going to be, yeah, there's violence on a local level.

02:17:09.720 There's insurgency.

02:17:10.620 But the country breaks apart fairly peacefully.

02:17:13.740 That's what I think is most likely to happen.

02:17:15.980 I don't think so because of weapons.

02:17:20.880 I don't, I don't think.

02:17:21.640 Not armies clashing.

02:17:23.320 No, but I mean, some states have more nukes than others.

02:17:26.680 And Texas, I mean, Texas has a pretty well organized succession movement.

02:17:31.360 I mean, Fort Hood is the largest army base.

02:17:33.420 It's going to stay there probably.

02:17:34.760 What does Southern California do when they lose access to the Colorado River?

02:17:39.940 They have to settle it with the other state, with the United States if they succeed.

02:17:44.620 Well, if, if this, so I believe that if we are to see a national divorce and there's a

02:17:49.380 breakup, Arizona, Colorado, Nevada, there's going to be a fight over the water sources.

02:17:56.860 And Southern California heavily relies on the Colorado River, which can easily be cut

02:18:01.020 upstream by any one of these states.

02:18:02.920 We're going to say, we don't care what you think.

02:18:03.980 I mean, you got the same thing with India and Pakistan.

02:18:05.720 That's another similar issue you got running, you know, controlling the waters coming out

02:18:08.880 of the, you know, that area.

02:18:11.120 So it's something you got to deal with, but it's going to be dealt with peacefully.

02:18:14.420 I don't think you're going to see armies clashing, or at least most of our players.

02:18:17.420 There were people who thought just that 19% of many states may succeed from the union

02:18:23.240 or split up, and there would be fighting between them and the United States.

02:18:26.560 So you're in the 19% group.

02:18:29.000 Anything you want to shout out, Ed, sir?

02:18:30.500 No, I'd just like to say I'd love to recruit grid warriors.

02:18:33.280 You have great viewers, listeners, Tim.

02:18:36.480 So go to our website.

02:18:38.440 We actually have a facility where you can sign a petition, make phone calls, write emails

02:18:44.720 to your elected officials.

02:18:45.960 Let them know that this is highly defensible.

02:18:49.620 We can protect our grid.

02:18:51.160 We can protect it against geomagnetic disturbance for about $5 billion and protect our grid.

02:18:57.420 It's ridiculous that we are not better prepared.

02:18:59.940 And therefore, tell your friends.

02:19:02.240 And so let's make this happen.

02:19:03.860 Right on.

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The Culture War - Tim Pool - May 10, 2024

The Culture War #63 X-Class Solar Flare INCOMING, Could Knock Out GRID, GET PREPARED ｜ The Culture War With Tim Pool w⧸David Tice & Drew Miller

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