The Culture War - Tim Pool - The Culture War #66 Deep State Corruption, Trump Conviction Press Conference w⧸M.I.A & Shane Cashman

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00:00:59.320 It's the morning after. Donald Trump was found guilty on 34 counts.

00:01:04.720 You've got one side of the aisle gloating and laughing, saying this is the rule of law.

00:01:07.860 The other side, of course, is saying something dark has happened to our country.

00:01:11.520 And it's wild because there have been many dark things happening in this country for a very long time.

00:01:17.360 But I suppose targeting your political rival with criminal prosecution in numerous ways to stop him from winning an election is particularly dark because it's the end of the system.

00:01:29.380 It's fascinating to me, though, that so many Americans don't care about or tolerate murder, kidnapping, military rendition, extrajudicial assassinations because it doesn't affect our system.

00:01:42.600 It reminds me of the Joker in Dark Knight when he says if I told the press that, like, a busload of soldiers will be blown up or a gangbanger will get shot.

00:01:51.580 Nobody cares. It's all part of the plan.

00:01:53.060 But when he says one mayor will die, everyone loses their mind.

00:01:56.720 I certainly think it's a bit more extreme seeing the frontrunner for the 2024 presidential election being threatened with prison convicted.

00:02:06.700 It's particularly extreme. I understand why people are shocked.

00:02:09.840 But there is a lot of stuff going on that needs to be broken down.

00:02:13.760 And so I can just say, first, we are going to we don't normally do this, but it's such tremendous historical news at 11 when Trump gives his press conference.

00:02:21.380 We will pull it up. It is going to be in line with with our conversation.

00:02:23.920 I just want to say, though, you know, I wake up feeling relief that Trump was found guilty because now it means that we can go after Barack Obama for the extrajudicial assassination of Abdul Rahman Al-Awlaki,

00:02:34.680 who was 16 years old and killed in a drone strike that he signed off on.

00:02:37.680 I know. I wish I was kidding. I'm sorry. I wish I was kidding about that.

00:02:41.820 But the reality is I'm kidding about him actually going to jail for it.

00:02:44.520 The first ever prosecution felony charge of a former president was not for the extrajudicial assassinations, the illegal wars, the stealing of money, funneling off our resources, destroying the American.

00:02:56.900 All of these things, all of these things.

00:02:59.300 It was because improper filing of documents.

00:03:02.720 That's the game they play.

00:03:03.960 Oh, well, so we're going to talk about government corruption.

00:03:06.900 We're going to talk about a whole bunch of stuff.

00:03:11.180 We're hanging out today on The Culture War with Maya, also known as MIA, singer, rapper.

00:03:16.460 What do you go by? Musician?

00:03:19.480 Musician. Artist is good.

00:03:22.740 Yeah, artist.

00:03:24.860 Right on.

00:03:25.620 Yeah.

00:03:26.200 And you've got anti-EMF clothing.

00:03:29.600 I have a clothing brand launching today.

00:03:32.480 It's called OmniWare.

00:03:34.500 And yeah, I wanted to come on your podcast to talk about that because it is all about data and privacy and things like that.

00:03:41.940 Right on.

00:03:42.660 And we'll talk a lot about Shane's joining us.

00:03:44.460 I'm excited to be here.

00:03:45.520 Hi.

00:03:45.920 I'm excited to talk about all the dissent that we should be doing with someone who's been a dissenter and one of the rare actual dissenters in pop culture.

00:03:55.980 Haven't been groomed yet.

00:03:57.240 Well, let's knock on wood, Maya.

00:03:58.940 Let's knock on wood.

00:03:59.760 But here's some of the protective wear that limits some of that.

00:04:06.300 Yeah.

00:04:06.520 Well, I definitely, I'm really excited to talk about that because it's like chic tinfoil hat, right?

00:04:13.580 It is.

00:04:14.540 So like, you know, over the last past, I would say, what, four years, I got branded as a conspiracy theorist.

00:04:25.300 It's a label.

00:04:26.440 So I decided to make a label.

00:04:29.040 And the first thing I'm launching is a tinfoil hat.

00:04:33.020 And so.

00:04:34.340 What's the website?

00:04:35.400 OmniWare?

00:04:35.880 It's Omni.com.

00:04:38.180 Oh, wow.

00:04:38.480 Can you say what?

00:04:38.960 What started the rumors of you being a conspiracy theorist?

00:04:42.280 What did you do?

00:04:43.600 How do you spell Omni?

00:04:44.460 I guess it was O-H-M-N-I.

00:04:47.680 And if you go to Omni.com, it will be, I don't know if it's live right now, but it's going live today.

00:04:57.380 Okay.

00:04:57.680 So just keep refreshing it.

00:05:00.440 But I bought a hat.

00:05:02.020 I bought also some other.

00:05:04.300 This one has a hat that we can talk about.

00:05:09.380 So there is a bucket hat, which is reversible, so you can wear it black, and you can also wear it silver if you want.

00:05:15.940 And this is good for Virginia because it's a sun hat.

00:05:20.080 Oh, cool.

00:05:21.220 And all the hats are lined with silver, copper.

00:05:26.120 Silver?

00:05:27.280 Yeah.

00:05:27.780 So this, what I'm wearing, is silver.

00:05:30.080 Wow.

00:05:30.660 It's real silver.

00:05:31.380 So when the stock market goes up and down on silver, our products kind of might get affected.

00:05:40.240 We're still figuring it out because this is our first collection.

00:05:43.500 It's also antibacterial, silver and copper.

00:05:46.360 Yeah.

00:05:46.920 So this is detachable.

00:05:48.180 You can, you know, limit the amount of protection you need.

00:05:52.500 But yeah, so I made some hats, and I made an entire clothing range.

00:05:55.740 I was like, why stop there?

00:05:57.680 And it's really good for, like, pregnancy.

00:06:00.920 And so we made, like, maternity dresses and things like that.

00:06:03.980 Why did you make it?

00:06:04.940 I made it after your Harari said, all humans are hackable.

00:06:10.280 Oh, yeah.

00:06:11.040 Yeah.

00:06:11.480 The World Economic Forum guy.

00:06:12.980 I was like, hmm, that's a really great thing to work off.

00:06:18.560 And this is just giving you a choice.

00:06:21.280 You know, like, if you want your heartbeat measured every time you go down the high street in a smart city,

00:06:27.980 you don't have to wear Omni.

00:06:29.380 But if you don't want that, you know, today you want to own your own data and your own biometrics and your own stuff,

00:06:37.020 then you can just put on Omni, and it kind of holds it off for a bit.

00:06:42.140 And, like, I have a do-rag, and this is a mesh, which is metal.

00:06:48.300 And you put it on, and you can choose when your Neuralink is operational.

00:06:56.240 So that's really what it is.

00:06:58.060 But you wouldn't get the Neuralink, would you?

00:06:59.380 Huh?

00:06:59.880 You wouldn't get the Neuralink, would you?

00:07:01.680 I wouldn't get it.

00:07:02.740 I don't need it.

00:07:03.620 But, you know, hopefully it is what they're saying it's for, which is to make people who need it in a medical way.

00:07:12.920 That's how it starts.

00:07:14.040 Yeah.

00:07:14.460 That's how it starts.

00:07:15.500 You don't need it now, but you'll need it in 10 years.

00:07:18.220 What's going to happen is...

00:07:18.920 Well, we're going to be told we need it.

00:07:20.900 It's going to be like a cell phone now.

00:07:22.860 You're going to be working on your latest album or whatever, and they're going to say, this is fantastic.

00:07:28.300 We definitely want to do a big deal with you.

00:07:30.480 Can you give us your Neuralink username?

00:07:32.340 And you're going to say, I don't have Neuralink.

00:07:33.600 And they're going to go, well, how do we get in touch with you?

00:07:37.400 And you're going to say, just call me on my phone.

00:07:38.660 They go, well, no one here has a phone.

00:07:40.700 And then they're going to be like, is there someone else we can reach out to?

00:07:43.860 I mean, this is...

00:07:44.340 And they're going to say, look, sorry, if you want to work here, you want to work with us, we need to be able to contact you.

00:07:49.160 That's how it is.

00:07:49.680 I mean, could you imagine if someone was like, I don't have the internet?

00:07:52.220 They'd be like, what?

00:07:53.620 Well, that's why I...

00:07:55.460 There's a phone that gets you off grid.

00:07:58.100 Yeah.

00:07:58.540 This is a phone case.

00:07:59.180 Can I see it?

00:08:00.380 It'll turn my phone off?

00:08:01.780 Yeah.

00:08:02.600 You can put it, and then you can try to call, and it will turn it off.

00:08:08.480 It's like a nice material, too.

00:08:10.400 So inside it's lined.

00:08:13.060 You said you were in Dubai for the apocalyptic storm.

00:08:17.540 Were you wearing your Omni in all that fake rain?

00:08:20.660 I actually was.

00:08:22.000 And?

00:08:22.220 Because I was there for Omni.

00:08:24.140 And I was, you know, and I kind of sleep in this stuff, too.

00:08:28.800 So I did think, wow, something's going on, because everybody's like, this is a force majeure.

00:08:38.100 It's an act of God, and, you know, you're here in the apocalypse.

00:08:41.180 And I was like, wow, like, God really hates me.

00:08:43.800 What?

00:08:44.280 Of all places and all times, I've never been to Dubai, and here I am, first day, boom, the apocalypse.

00:08:51.100 And I was like, how?

00:08:52.360 Well, but then it was also the crazy week where Iran and Israel were fighting, you know, and that thing was going on.

00:09:01.800 And so the clouds were kind of coming from the Iranian side as well, because we're on the coast.

00:09:11.220 So I didn't really know what was going on.

00:09:14.080 It's like, is this somebody getting trigger happy on the weather machine?

00:09:18.360 I think it's that.

00:09:19.380 Is it coming from Iran because some cloud was generated to block something, and then someone went crazy on it?

00:09:26.340 And, you know, or is this Israel testing some weather machine, or is this like, you know, you don't know, because you're right there in the center of where it's coming.

00:09:36.700 And the floods kind of went from Dubai, and then I think it went to Afghanistan.

00:09:41.900 You know, it moved in a direction away from Iran.

00:09:46.200 So I was there, and this stuff, you know, it's really interesting in a city like that, because they are super modern.

00:09:59.600 They are going on turbo in terms of smart cities and things like that, and so it's perfect for there.

00:10:07.280 You know, it's just going to be part of, it's the fabric of modern life.

00:10:15.580 Were they receptive to this type of fashion?

00:10:18.200 They don't know yet what Omni, the brand is.

00:10:23.500 This is the first time I'm actually going on air talking about it.

00:10:27.760 Oh, wow.

00:10:29.500 I did go on Gwyneth's Goop show in terms of the maternity dress, and I think she was interested in it, and she had a lot of flack for talking about it on her show.

00:10:43.940 She got canceled.

00:10:45.480 Because she's now considered a conspiracy theorist?

00:10:47.640 Oh, look, there it is.

00:10:48.480 It's live.

00:10:48.820 Yeah, we got it.

00:10:49.580 Woo!

00:10:51.120 Silver, silver, silver.

00:10:51.980 Wow, that's the first time I'm seeing it live.

00:10:53.740 Yo, you got to, have you talked to Alex Jones?

00:10:56.000 Not yet.

00:10:57.040 You got to, I feel like.

00:10:58.540 He owes me a career.

00:11:00.000 Yeah.

00:11:00.380 He owes me my music career back.

00:11:03.780 Because he is the guy that my last record was canceled over.

00:11:08.700 The day I said that tweet was, happens to be the day that my record was going to be released to the world.

00:11:17.900 What was the tweet?

00:11:19.920 It was about lies.

00:11:22.960 Lies on the internet, you know?

00:11:24.900 And I said, people can't be fined a billion dollars for lying, because so many people lie.

00:11:31.180 Like, I can think of like 25 people that needs to be fined a billion dollars right now.

00:11:36.740 Every president we've had.

00:11:38.060 That has been detrimental to humanity, you know?

00:11:41.760 Right.

00:11:42.800 Not just the emotional suffering of families that were part of this incident, but lies that have changed the course of humanity.

00:11:57.380 Yeah, they engineer the narrative of life, yeah.

00:12:01.180 So I was kind of like, wow, this is amazing.

00:12:03.780 I was actually thinking of it in a positive way.

00:12:05.920 I wasn't defending him.

00:12:06.940 I was like, yo, if we're going to fined people for lying, this is a great thing.

00:12:10.940 Let's go and make that list, you know?

00:12:13.780 And let's go and fined people.

00:12:16.220 So what happened to your record?

00:12:18.240 And they pulled my record.

00:12:20.220 When was this?

00:12:21.420 I got canceled.

00:12:22.040 That was four years ago?

00:12:23.340 No, this was 22, October, 2022.

00:12:27.380 So wait, wait, who was they, though?

00:12:30.440 I'm walking out.

00:12:32.700 Nice.

00:12:34.340 Who are they?

00:12:35.740 No, you said-

00:12:36.420 Who are they?

00:12:37.160 The record label?

00:12:38.880 The record label, yes.

00:12:40.000 They canceled your album.

00:12:41.500 Yes.

00:12:42.560 Is this Jay-Z?

00:12:44.400 Can we get into that?

00:12:45.060 I was on an island.

00:12:46.680 Okay.

00:12:47.280 Yeah, I was on an island.

00:12:48.600 Wow.

00:12:49.760 That's wild.

00:12:50.380 Has the music come out, or what's going on with it?

00:12:51.900 Uh, it, that was it.

00:12:55.600 It got canceled.

00:12:56.660 And I got dropped off all the magazine covers.

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00:14:29.160 GQ, Drop My Cover, I think People From Vogue and stuff like that.

00:14:37.720 There was loads of press lined up and everybody cancelled it.

00:14:42.120 It's worth noting this is not the first time you've pissed off entire portions of the world.

00:14:49.300 No, it happens on a regular basis.

00:14:52.740 When was the first?

00:14:53.580 What would you say would be the first time you did something that gave you all that pushback?

00:14:57.840 I think the first would be when I released my first song, Sun Showers.

00:15:03.540 And I said, like PLO, I don't surrender.

00:15:06.560 And then I had loads of people turn up to my shows and write into the government and stuff

00:15:14.000 and say, this person should not be touring in America.

00:15:17.200 So that's when I started having issues with the visa.

00:15:28.400 So before 2005, I've been to America many times and it was just smooth.

00:15:33.820 You know, everything was cool.

00:15:35.120 And I was traveling with Elastica band and I went to every single state.

00:15:39.600 Like, there was no problems.

00:15:42.460 But when I released that song, people would write in to, you know, the FBI and stuff like that

00:15:49.180 and be like, she's saying this and da-da-da-da-da.

00:15:52.260 They called you a terrorist sympathizer?

00:15:53.660 That was it.

00:15:54.580 Yeah.

00:15:54.880 So that was the beginning.

00:15:56.220 So it's weird to me that you can mention PLO in a pop song, however many years, 10 years ago.

00:16:03.800 And now it's 20.

00:16:05.580 I'm stuck, obviously, in the 90s.

00:16:08.380 And then now it's like a glamorous thing in pop culture.

00:16:11.080 Like the Hadids can come out and say all this stuff.

00:16:13.460 And it's like glamorized.

00:16:15.480 But why is it?

00:16:16.460 What is PLO for those that don't know?

00:16:17.860 A Palestinian liberation organization.

00:16:21.940 And my dad was part of the revolution in Sri Lanka.

00:16:28.120 And so when he started, his movement was called EROS.

00:16:36.700 And when he started, EROS was trained by the PLO in the 70s.

00:16:44.180 And so they were kind of connected to the Tamil cause.

00:16:47.320 But they were connected to, I think, every single cause in the 70s.

00:16:51.720 Because there were revolutions popping up all over the world.

00:16:55.120 And that was a very normal thing that you basically train with the PLO.

00:17:01.480 I just saw the boxers.

00:17:03.220 And I'm like, yo.

00:17:05.380 Yes.

00:17:06.160 These allow you to have generations.

00:17:10.380 You know, this is what God wants.

00:17:12.080 I'm like.

00:17:12.820 Have generations.

00:17:14.220 This is pro-humanity.

00:17:15.660 You know, this is so people can deal with the fact that, you know, the.

00:17:24.340 It's good.

00:17:24.940 This is important.

00:17:25.740 This is important stuff.

00:17:26.660 This is important.

00:17:27.080 It's going to allow people to have babies.

00:17:30.260 Yeah.

00:17:30.660 As soon as I saw.

00:17:31.480 I'm like looking at all the shirts.

00:17:32.360 And I'm like, I get it.

00:17:33.240 You know.

00:17:33.460 And then I saw that.

00:17:34.100 And I was like, oh, now I really get it.

00:17:35.620 Yeah.

00:17:35.780 It means you can put your laptop on your lap and.

00:17:39.380 Not going to fry your nuts.

00:17:40.860 And it's not going to fry you.

00:17:42.380 And you can still have babies.

00:17:43.960 And these tracksuit bottoms I'm wearing is the same.

00:17:46.560 So half of this is got silver lining.

00:17:50.860 And this is normal.

00:17:52.600 But you can put your laptop on there and your room is protected or you're, you know.

00:17:57.560 Saving humanity.

00:17:59.120 That's what I'm here to do.

00:18:00.440 So I was going to say, it's weird to me that you get so much flack all that 20 years ago

00:18:04.820 for saying that.

00:18:05.620 But now it's glamorous.

00:18:07.620 But now it's glamorous to be an activist.

00:18:11.140 You know, whereas.

00:18:11.960 Oh, yeah.

00:18:12.520 I think you're going to sell every single one of these.

00:18:15.100 I think it's going to sell.

00:18:15.700 There's my Tim Forr hat.

00:18:16.700 I know.

00:18:17.000 And it's reversible.

00:18:19.640 Fred Durst needs one of these on tour right now.

00:18:21.900 And Joe Rogan needs that.

00:18:23.280 He's got a big head.

00:18:24.360 These are going to.

00:18:25.380 It's like he's got a lot of surface area to, you know, attack.

00:18:29.120 So.

00:18:29.500 I feel like all of this stuff is going to sell out instantly.

00:18:32.740 So that's my son modeling it.

00:18:34.520 Oh, wow.

00:18:35.320 That's awesome.

00:18:35.960 And he's named the iKid.

00:18:38.740 That's awesome.

00:18:39.460 So I thought, what's better to bring this into the world than iKid?

00:18:44.380 Who's very, you know, came out the same year iPhones did.

00:18:50.020 The poncho?

00:18:50.640 Is that the poncho you're talking about?

00:18:52.940 That's the poncho.

00:18:54.240 The anti-drone poncho.

00:18:56.200 This one right here?

00:18:57.180 Yeah.

00:18:58.720 That's great.

00:19:00.420 Wow.

00:19:01.460 Yeah.

00:19:01.860 It's anti-surveillance and anti-drone.

00:19:04.740 But, you know, we'll.

00:19:06.620 Are these going to help?

00:19:07.300 Oh, right.

00:19:07.680 But this is the leggings.

00:19:08.260 Are these going to help root out the NSO groups?

00:19:09.380 That's the leggings.

00:19:10.160 The NSO groups.

00:19:10.900 You're into yoga.

00:19:11.580 Hopefully, if you wear these, it will help negate the Pegasus spyware getting into your

00:19:18.600 phones, you know, about all that stuff.

00:19:21.080 The NSO group.

00:19:22.120 I feel like.

00:19:22.400 I don't know.

00:19:22.840 I'm trying, you know.

00:19:23.720 I'm not an expert.

00:19:24.680 I'm just beginning.

00:19:25.740 Well, I think we need it.

00:19:26.620 I think the underwear sells out instantly.

00:19:29.180 Yeah.

00:19:29.640 There's going to be a bunch of women who are going to buy this for their boyfriends or husbands

00:19:32.860 or whatever.

00:19:33.420 Yeah.

00:19:33.780 And they're going to be like, we're having kids.

00:19:35.220 And they're going to put it on.

00:19:36.480 I think if you're interested in having families, this is the brand for you.

00:19:40.940 Yep.

00:19:41.400 You know, it's like, also like for my son, he's a teenager and I have to make something

00:19:48.880 that's cool enough that he's been to those jeans.

00:19:51.540 So you can see that it's 50% silver.

00:19:54.640 Yeah.

00:19:54.960 And 50% denim.

00:19:56.920 Do you make him wear it all?

00:19:57.820 Well, it's all new to him, you know, because I didn't get into the U.S. for the last six

00:20:03.580 months.

00:20:04.620 And so I made this outside of the U.S.

00:20:07.380 Right.

00:20:07.820 And then I just got my visa.

00:20:10.340 And so then I was like, da-da-da-da-da.

00:20:12.360 Like, I just wanted to make it a surprise.

00:20:15.640 And we made this, you know, happen in that time I was away.

00:20:21.640 Wow.

00:20:21.760 I'm a bit disappointed you didn't call it a fanny pack, though.

00:20:24.860 I called it a waste bag.

00:20:27.400 Okay.

00:20:27.920 I would change it.

00:20:28.760 I'm kidding.

00:20:29.560 I'm kidding.

00:20:29.920 Change that.

00:20:30.600 Do you guys say fanny pack in the U.K.?

00:20:32.500 We say bum bag.

00:20:33.800 Bum bag.

00:20:34.800 Yeah.

00:20:35.980 Yeah, because in the U.S., fanny means butt.

00:20:39.860 That's right.

00:20:40.240 But in the U.K., fanny means something else.

00:20:43.020 But bum means butt, too.

00:20:44.900 Yeah.

00:20:45.400 Funny.

00:20:46.000 But like, if you were to say fanny pack in the U.K., it would mean something very different.

00:20:50.440 Yes, true.

00:20:51.980 We don't say that at all there.

00:20:54.580 Fanny bag?

00:20:55.100 Yeah.

00:20:55.440 Or what is it?

00:20:56.460 Yeah.

00:20:56.760 But that's also like, it gives you a pocket inside where you could go off grid, and it's

00:21:00.940 an option.

00:21:01.440 If you want your friends to call you, you could put it in one compartment.

00:21:05.180 If you want to go completely off grid, you put it in a different compartment.

00:21:08.580 Was it hearing that he could hack our bodies that set off you looking into all these different

00:21:13.560 things?

00:21:13.960 Or were you already on a path of like, we're being poisoned at every possible front?

00:21:18.420 Well, I just think that, I think it's an interesting time.

00:21:23.080 We're not going to stop the fact that people are going to build smart cities.

00:21:25.760 And during COVID, it was just like such an aggressive sell of that thing.

00:21:33.580 And I went into a mall, and it was a shop, a Chinese shop called Uniqlo.

00:21:43.620 And they bought this new technology where you could just grab whatever you want in the store, and you put it into this bucket.

00:21:52.080 And the bucket just tells you what you got.

00:21:54.820 Yeah.

00:21:55.260 And then it just tells you.

00:21:56.780 You don't check out anymore?

00:21:57.800 You just put in the.

00:21:58.260 You don't check out.

00:21:59.420 And you don't even have to put it neatly.

00:22:01.880 You know, so it's like, I've got ADD.

00:22:03.800 How bucket is that?

00:22:04.680 And then you stuff it into this thing, and this thing says, oh, you've got 10 items, and this is how much it is.

00:22:10.700 And then you just swipe and go.

00:22:13.080 And it's not tagged, you know?

00:22:15.160 So I was like, wow, that's incredible.

00:22:20.020 But this is such a powerful technology.

00:22:23.880 Then I realized that the entire shop was the bucket, you know?

00:22:28.040 So you walk in, and the shop is looking at what the last song I listened to, you know, what the video I watched, and what colors I like.

00:22:37.340 And it's using AI to analyze my phone and everything, and then doing my facial recognition, and looking at my reactions, and my eye movements at certain clothing.

00:22:49.580 And it's so sophisticated.

00:22:51.700 And I was like, wow, this is like, the shop is a box.

00:22:54.940 And then I stepped out of the shop, and then I was like, whoa, the street is a box, you know?

00:23:00.860 Earth is a box.

00:23:01.720 And then I was like, whoa, the whole city is a box.

00:23:03.900 Yeah, exactly.

00:23:04.660 And then it was like, we're not going to stop that.

00:23:07.040 It's like the traffic lights are doing that, and the CCTV.

00:23:10.020 So in England, you're like, we're the most surveillance country in the world, you know?

00:23:14.940 And we have all of this technology constantly bombarding us.

00:23:20.080 And I thought I was going to move to a farm, but I didn't.

00:23:23.100 And I carried on living in a city.

00:23:24.940 And then I was like, okay, there has to be something that then helps me.

00:23:29.920 If I can't take my son and live on a farm off-grid and running around in a field, grounding myself, then I have to bring that to the city.

00:23:43.980 And what are you going to do?

00:23:45.760 And it's like, am I going to grow vegetables on my roof?

00:23:49.340 Am I going to plant a tree in my house?

00:23:51.600 Like, what am I doing?

00:23:52.900 And this is one of the things that I feel like I can merge a 15-year-old fashion-conscious mind right now.

00:24:02.660 He's really into it, into health, you know?

00:24:06.940 Yeah, smart.

00:24:07.480 Think about what the future is going to be like.

00:24:09.900 You walk into this store.

00:24:12.440 Amazon did this.

00:24:13.320 I remember when Amazon launched their market.

00:24:15.580 You walk in, grab whatever you want, you walk out.

00:24:17.820 And then it just tracks everything you're doing.

00:24:21.040 And apparently that was a lie.

00:24:23.700 No.

00:24:23.880 So, it worked, but I easily exploited it.

00:24:28.860 So, as soon as it opened, I went there and I filmed myself taking whatever I wanted without paying for it.

00:24:34.960 Very easily.

00:24:37.080 It was paid for.

00:24:38.740 We just used an exploit.

00:24:40.380 I'm not going to explain because it still works today.

00:24:43.600 But I was able to go in, fill up a thing, walk out.

00:24:46.160 We did pay for everything.

00:24:47.160 I called Amazon right away and let them know that I had done it, that we had.

00:24:51.560 I was able to walk out without paying, but we made sure someone made sure every item was paid for.

00:24:56.880 And I filmed a time-lapse doing it.

00:24:59.520 But my concern is, yeah, and their response to me was basically like, oh, we don't care.

00:25:04.360 The amount of money that we save by not having employees covers the cost of loss.

00:25:08.660 Literally don't care at all.

00:25:09.720 It's meaningless to us.

00:25:11.580 I'm like, okay, it's kind of weird.

00:25:12.720 People are going to steal.

00:25:13.380 And they're like, I don't care.

00:25:14.360 Here's a funny thing.

00:25:15.140 They got rid of it and they're getting rid of self-checkout because everyone's stealing.

00:25:18.520 But here's what the future is going to be like.

00:25:20.940 You walk into the store with these 15-minute cities, these smart cities.

00:25:24.560 You walk into the clothing store and you go, ooh, this shirt looks good.

00:25:27.300 There's no tag on it.

00:25:28.200 You put it in your basket.

00:25:29.440 Oh, I need a pair of socks.

00:25:30.320 I need some underwear.

00:25:30.880 You throw it in your basket.

00:25:31.900 No tags on any of it.

00:25:32.800 You walk out.

00:25:34.780 You check your app.

00:25:35.980 You've been deducted, you know, $326 because of, you know, inflation, right?

00:25:40.360 Your t-shirts are going to be expensive.

00:25:41.740 But where does that money come from?

00:25:42.940 What does money mean?

00:25:44.100 It's all going to be a social credit score.

00:25:46.160 As we're moving into the AI world automation, the calls for UBI and all this stuff, how will

00:25:51.720 you get money to be able to go in and grab those clothes?

00:25:54.400 You're going to be a good model citizen.

00:25:56.180 You're going to be high social credit score.

00:25:58.660 And then if you have a high social credit score, they're going to say, you've got an

00:26:01.140 extra $2,000 allotted to you this month for having a score over 800.

00:26:04.680 And then you can walk in, take whatever you want.

00:26:06.500 You walk into the McDonald's or whatever, and you just press cheeseburger and then just

00:26:10.720 pops right up for you.

00:26:12.240 And you don't even got to transact anything.

00:26:13.560 It's all tracking you.

00:26:14.640 It's looking at your eyes, looking at your face.

00:26:16.080 The machine is watching you everywhere you go, judging you.

00:26:20.260 You crumple up your wrappers and you accidentally throw one in the wrong one.

00:26:23.400 Oh no, that was recycling.

00:26:25.700 Social credit score goes down and you go, oh crap.

00:26:27.880 So you jump in, you grab it, pull it out.

00:26:29.200 You wave to the camera and you put it in the recycling and say, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:26:31.480 I did it.

00:26:31.800 I did it.

00:26:32.300 And then boop, boop, boop, boop goes back up.

00:26:33.760 I would say China already has that to a degree.

00:26:35.920 Yep.

00:26:36.320 And we're seeing people locked out during lockdowns of their houses and apartments and they

00:26:39.820 couldn't use like the hand devices to get in.

00:26:42.080 They were like, have to sleep outside in the parks.

00:26:44.200 Whoa.

00:26:44.660 Yeah.

00:26:44.800 And UK is really bad with surveillance.

00:26:46.740 Aren't there people right now taking down those cameras?

00:26:49.120 Smashing them.

00:26:49.620 Yeah.

00:26:49.700 They're called Blade Runners.

00:26:51.320 Right.

00:26:51.560 What?

00:26:51.820 Sick name.

00:26:53.440 Yes.

00:26:54.160 Sick name.

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00:28:23.500 Yeah, so there is, that is, that's cool that they, they're incentivized to do that.

00:28:29.600 This, this is not good if the London mayor's listening to this, but that's nice when people

00:28:36.700 take matters into their hands to slow down what's going on because in the UK, it's not

00:28:44.640 a social credit system, it's just too, it just like grinds society to a halt.

00:28:52.080 You know, this is another thing we're talking about, creativity and artistic expression and

00:28:56.140 how some of these things are really important to society and artists think, you know, we

00:29:02.860 need some space to think.

00:29:06.060 Like, it's not easy to think in a box, you know, and, and, and I think with all the monitoring

00:29:12.740 systems that's in place and, and they have apparently the most sophisticated camera on,

00:29:18.700 on, on street cameras.

00:29:20.280 So when they, you know, if you're speeding, when they do the speeding ticket, like it's

00:29:25.980 this incredible sophisticated camera that scans you in 3D and sees the inside of the

00:29:34.240 car and, you know, like it can see if you're texting while you're driving and, and you're

00:29:39.280 like, wow, this, this, I can't make music videos with this kind of technology, you know,

00:29:45.740 without it being such a crazy thing, but we have it on a, on a speeding ticket.

00:29:50.740 They've, they've had, they've had devices for decades that shoots a laser and when the

00:29:55.820 laser hits glass, it can translate the vibrations in the glass into audio.

00:30:00.640 So if you're in a room talking, they point it at the window and then they get a low resolution

00:30:07.160 audio and they can hear you talking.

00:30:09.400 And that's been, that's been for like 30 years.

00:30:11.780 We've been under global surveillance for decades.

00:30:14.220 I mean, the UK is in the five eyes program with us and Australia, New Zealand, forget

00:30:20.300 who the other one might be in that.

00:30:21.820 Canada, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand, and a U S yeah.

00:30:26.260 But see, this is what, this is what makes me get more spiritual demons.

00:30:33.460 Well, I wrote a book about this on Omni and it got taken down.

00:30:39.380 Uh, it was called Omni nine and it was about, um, it's about the universe and how it is coded

00:30:46.320 in mathematics and, you know, God sort of codes all this stuff.

00:30:51.360 And then the demons use, um, their own understanding of maths to decode it, you know, and surveillance

00:30:59.680 and monitoring and all of this stuff is, is done to monitor human beings because the belief

00:31:09.240 of human beings matters, you know, which side they empower.

00:31:13.560 So when humans believe in God, gods are strengthened and, you know, the angels are strengthened and,

00:31:21.960 and when they're confused and they get tricked or led down the, you know, confusion route, um,

00:31:29.300 then demons are empowered.

00:31:30.840 So the only way to do that is through technology, you know, and, and so that was the book and

00:31:38.620 it, yeah.

00:31:39.840 But you, you recently became Christian.

00:31:42.060 I became Christian.

00:31:43.560 Yeah.

00:31:44.280 I got baptized.

00:31:45.200 When was that?

00:31:46.400 I got baptized in, um, 2022.

00:31:50.260 Um, but I became a Christian in, I guess, 2017.

00:32:00.340 What, what sparked that, uh, that awakening?

00:32:04.600 Um, my real name is Madangi, right?

00:32:09.620 And it's the goddess of music and spoken word.

00:32:13.120 Really?

00:32:13.560 Wow.

00:32:14.840 Yeah.

00:32:15.140 In Hinduism, which I didn't know.

00:32:17.000 So I grew up a atheist, uh, even when I came out as MIA, I was an atheist and my dad always

00:32:25.960 said religion is used as a, is a tool for social control.

00:32:31.460 And, uh, he was raised Catholic though.

00:32:35.060 And, uh, so then I guess after I made the Maya album is when I found out what my name meant,

00:32:41.820 uh, after I got canceled for saying connected to Google, connected to the government.

00:32:47.820 And that, that was the opening of the record.

00:32:50.920 And then obviously WikiLeaks and everything came out in two 10 to 11 around that time.

00:32:58.240 But this record came out just before it.

00:33:01.280 And so then, um, you know, it just kind of, it was about technology because the iPhone came

00:33:11.760 out and it was, the reason why that happened is because of my observation to do with the

00:33:16.520 Tamil genocide, like what, what kind of happened during 2009.

00:33:21.200 And I didn't really think too much about the wider scope of how things were going to be

00:33:30.220 in the world.

00:33:30.820 Um, then everyone canceled me.

00:33:33.420 And when I was canceled, I went to India for a bit.

00:33:37.720 And then that's when I discovered what my name meant.

00:33:40.460 And it was kind of a cool thing because in Hinduism, you had a concept of a goddess who

00:33:47.100 was the goddess of music and also the, uh, the goddess of the untouchables.

00:33:53.100 So it's about giving voice to the voiceless and, um, and, and she was, she, she was the

00:34:01.400 goddess of spoken word, which was kind of like rapping.

00:34:04.560 So when the record labels were like, why are you political?

00:34:07.900 Because you'd be better making pop records.

00:34:11.160 I brought back this story and I said, look, 5,000 years ago, they'd already written a concept

00:34:17.300 where it was possible to be a musician and stick up for people and talk about pollution

00:34:23.720 of information and, um, and, you know, fight for something like it's okay to have these things

00:34:33.020 kind of crossover.

00:34:34.920 And, uh, so it was very useful having this Hindu understanding.

00:34:39.600 So I became a Hindu.

00:34:41.680 And, uh, so then I went down the path of Hinduism and studied it and tried to understand it a

00:34:49.660 lot.

00:34:49.880 And then suddenly out of nowhere, five years into it, um, I had a vision of Jesus.

00:34:57.820 Yeah.

00:34:58.700 While I was awake.

00:35:00.220 Can you describe that?

00:35:01.540 Um, so I just made the borders video and, uh, yeah.

00:35:09.160 So that was the last thing I did as a Hindu and it was about, um, again, humanity.

00:35:16.340 And I, and I thought that creatively, cause Matangi is the goddess of like creativity as

00:35:21.120 well.

00:35:21.320 So I really felt that I had to make this to understand what, um, this was it?

00:35:30.620 Yeah.

00:35:32.180 And, you know, the whole time I got, I had the strength to make this video on my own.

00:35:36.040 So I directed it and we kind of did the whole thing in 20 days.

00:35:40.720 Um, again, there was a storm.

00:35:43.040 I was going on holiday and there was a storm where I was going.

00:35:45.900 So I landed in Chennai and then we were, we were stuck there cause of the storm and we

00:35:50.920 thought, okay, let's just make a video.

00:35:52.360 So, and we started and finished it from scratch within 20 days, you know, and, and that, that

00:36:00.060 I thought was like divine.

00:36:01.940 It's a huge production.

00:36:03.020 It's huge.

00:36:03.620 There's a lot of people.

00:36:04.420 A thousand people.

00:36:06.120 And we had a crew of 200.

00:36:07.740 It was massive.

00:36:08.360 Um, so to do that very quickly, it's like you had to believe in something to get through

00:36:15.260 and, and what the message was and, and, you know, so I was feeling very comfortable in

00:36:20.580 Hinduism.

00:36:21.720 Uh, but the funny thing we did during this video is we, we kept going to that markets

00:36:26.700 in India and buying really badly spelled shirts.

00:36:29.720 And we were going to put it in the video as a joke because, um, Indians always make these

00:36:34.860 motivational shirts, but they spell it all wrong.

00:36:38.060 You know, so one of the ones on, on route to this day, like this specific day, I think

00:36:43.220 this was like day two or three.

00:36:45.340 Um, we had one where I was walking on water and that's because, um, all my stuntmen let

00:36:53.460 me down.

00:36:54.140 So we had to kind of improvise a shot.

00:36:56.100 So they were like, you know, we don't have the ramps that we're going to shoot the speed

00:37:00.640 boat into the air, but we can make you a ramp where you can stand in the water.

00:37:04.520 And I was like, okay.

00:37:05.360 But that day we found a t-shirt that said Jesus sad instead of Jesus said, I am the way.

00:37:11.560 So we thought it was funny.

00:37:13.080 And I put on this Jesus sad t-shirt.

00:37:16.600 And so it was kind of weird that we had this shot and, um, but I didn't really think about

00:37:23.200 it.

00:37:23.500 And then straight after I made this video, um, something else happened in the Hindu realm.

00:37:33.660 And then I had a vision of Jesus because, um, I, I don't know why, uh, but it happened.

00:37:45.060 And Matangi or Mardangi, the goddess, it was always about, um, freedom, freedom of speech

00:37:54.240 and to protect freedom of speech.

00:37:56.760 And speech is super important.

00:37:59.180 And it's the articulation of inner thought into external sound.

00:38:04.840 And she resides in the throat, uh, in between your brain sending the signal and being, um,

00:38:12.860 turned into words.

00:38:14.520 And so it was always about truth, you know?

00:38:18.340 And so when I was canceled and in between those two albums, I was canceled like 50 other

00:38:26.400 times for all different other reasons.

00:38:28.420 Superbowl, Superbowl, you know, there's the stuff about when I said Obama should give back

00:38:33.600 his Nobel, a Nobel peace prize.

00:38:35.440 Like there was many, many things.

00:38:37.160 And then Julian Assange, like, you know, meeting him.

00:38:40.780 And then I made the WikiLeaks album and it was all like million other things.

00:38:45.960 Um, but then I thought, you know, truth is an important thing.

00:38:49.740 And when I had the vision of Jesus, it's not like I could lie about it or pretend I didn't

00:38:55.700 have it.

00:38:56.640 You know, I still have to be truthful because even in the context of the thing I'd followed

00:39:01.440 before, which was Mardangi, the concept of this deity, it, it stood for truth.

00:39:08.660 And it was part of my journey and exploration to find out what that meant.

00:39:13.900 And once you take truth serious, then you get revealed this other truth.

00:39:18.720 And then you're like, whoa, that's crazy.

00:39:23.180 Like, what if this all was supposed to be up to this point, you know, and maybe there's

00:39:27.700 something else that's going to come after.

00:39:29.800 I don't know, you know, but at this point, that is a truth and can't lie about it.

00:39:38.360 And so then I was like, why did that happen?

00:39:42.680 Um, cause my life was pretty, I was quite comfortable in Hinduism.

00:39:50.040 Um, and then I guess when 2020 came along, it sort of made.

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00:41:22.300 It really did feel like things were changing.

00:41:27.360 And even though the Borders song was all of those things where I was saying,

00:41:32.680 we do need a reset.

00:41:33.940 I said it.

00:41:35.620 No other artist said that.

00:41:37.380 You know, the opening of this song literally says, we need a new rhythm.

00:41:41.840 We need a reset.

00:41:43.380 And then you throw all these things into the air.

00:41:46.280 Like, what does values mean?

00:41:47.700 What does your family mean?

00:41:48.700 What does your belief mean?

00:41:49.840 Politics.

00:41:50.180 Yeah, politics mean or the borders or everything, you know, as large topics and issues?

00:41:58.060 What do they all mean once you begin to tear at the fabric of society where meanings are given

00:42:08.480 to things and, you know, and we override that, you know?

00:42:15.220 Oh, yeah.

00:42:16.080 And so, of course, all of those things are going to start breaking, you know, if you remove the foundation.

00:42:22.120 And so, I was already there in 2016 asking these questions because, yes, I saw the change, you know.

00:42:32.060 And I guess it was written before Trump came into power.

00:42:36.980 And so, then I was, after you asked those questions, you're just kind of like, well, what do you do now, you know?

00:42:50.160 And then I had the vision and I don't know why and I don't understand what the reason, what was the reason for it.

00:42:59.340 And then when 2020 happened, I see it on like a bigger level to be like, okay, this is, you know, certain things happen because they have to happen.

00:43:08.420 And, you know, it's, I guess we're still living through that time.

00:43:16.660 I had a very similar experience where I was an atheist.

00:43:19.660 Christ offered me the only structure and joy to chaos that this world gives you.

00:43:28.140 And it was happening up into lockdowns.

00:43:31.740 As you're also noticing, like you were talking about technology and like this totalitarian techno world we're in, they're trying to become God.

00:43:39.360 And they're trying to be omniscient, you know.

00:43:41.120 Yes.

00:43:41.420 Whereas like there's an ancient omniscience that I was now believing in because it's the only way to push back against this fake omniscience in the world.

00:43:49.200 Exactly.

00:43:49.840 You also recently got baptized.

00:43:52.140 Last summer, yeah.

00:43:52.980 Last summer.

00:43:53.540 Yep.

00:43:53.960 A lot of people.

00:43:55.040 We're in a revival, Tim.

00:43:56.320 Yeah, absolutely.

00:43:56.940 I mean, we have a lot of people come into this studio who are, oh, yeah, you know, I found Christ and things like that or more specifically that.

00:44:05.740 Well, it makes sense.

00:44:07.260 It makes sense.

00:44:08.700 It gives you peace now because I don't know where else to find it.

00:44:13.040 I mean, even Hinduism, I have a lot of people around me who are, it's chaotic, you know, and therapy doesn't have the answer.

00:44:23.680 Science doesn't really have the answer.

00:44:25.900 And, you know, science is a study to me, but it's not the answer, you know.

00:44:30.660 And I was very, very, very judgmental.

00:44:35.840 My mom was a Christian for a long, well, is, and I was very judgmental and always felt like, you know, I'm an intellectual and I look down at Christians as something, as it, you know, like naive people followed because they had nothing else, you know.

00:44:54.440 But I don't think that anymore.

00:44:56.300 The weirdest thing to me is that people will lie and claim I'm an atheist.

00:45:00.740 I don't understand it.

00:45:02.100 You've said, I mean, I've heard you say it hundreds of times that you're not an atheist.

00:45:05.080 There has never been an instance where we've done a show where I have ever said I'm atheist or I don't believe in God.

00:45:11.440 I think you've even said the story many times of, like, going to some skater's house and seeing the painting of Jesus and asking him, like, what's up with that?

00:45:18.540 And, like, him giving you that nuance that perhaps we don't all have.

00:45:22.140 There are atheists who do the right thing as well sometimes.

00:45:26.280 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

00:45:27.160 For sure.

00:45:27.460 And they don't know why they do what they do, but they, they, they, that's okay.

00:45:33.040 Like, like, for example, Julian Assange, I would say he's like that, you know, he's like my dad.

00:45:38.400 He's an atheist.

00:45:39.100 He's, he's an atheist.

00:45:40.380 You got to talk to him.

00:45:40.880 He's wrong.

00:45:41.660 Yeah.

00:45:42.580 A lot of smart people are wrong.

00:45:43.960 It doesn't mean, you know, he's also not willed by a certain power that, you know, that is, because people find the, the drive and the will and the energy from somewhere to do what they do.

00:46:04.260 And, you know, he went up against things that is a very selfless cause, you know, it's like he doesn't benefit from what he did.

00:46:15.800 You know, he was trying to speak about pointless deaths of some journalists, which will affect many, many journalists, but doesn't really, you know, he, he had no gain.

00:46:27.540 It's not like he was going to end up with a billion dollar tech company at the end of it, you know.

00:46:31.880 And, uh, a lot of people in that time did like loads of people became billionaires of tech companies, yet this man didn't, you know, so he was willed from something.

00:46:43.500 Those, those people became billionaires ended up working in tandem with the government.

00:46:46.580 Yes.

00:46:47.260 And letting them censor all of us.

00:46:49.300 Yes.

00:46:49.800 During lockdown.

00:46:50.260 And we got, you know, we got, we got that tech became used to go after every single person in humanity and, you know, where, whatever your Harari is talking about now, whether humans are hackable or whatever, however that is done, you know, is through all of these technologies that, that.

00:47:14.420 Yeah.

00:47:14.900 So I would also say Christ is like the greatest subverter of evil.

00:47:19.460 And so to be Christ-like is trying to subvert evil.

00:47:22.400 And what Assange did is subverting evil.

00:47:25.080 And that's why I think a lot of the evil people in government hate that transparency because they're like, oh, he's, he's exposing.

00:47:31.440 Well, what he really did, you know, above just, uh, showing us the videos of all this horrible, uh, murders of civilians is he exposed the unit party.

00:47:40.260 Cause at one point Hillary Clinton is on TV saying he's the worst person ever.

00:47:44.380 And then there's people on Fox news calling for his murder.

00:47:47.580 Like they're saying, I know it's illegal, but if you see him, you know, take care of him.

00:47:50.940 So it was like, oh yeah.

00:47:53.460 And then you had the famous line, Hillary Clinton asking, can we just drone this guy?

00:47:56.900 Right.

00:47:57.380 But, uh, you know what it is, is, uh, Julian Assange was sharing the truth.

00:48:01.120 And also like there's many people, it's not even, I get it.

00:48:05.800 Cause you'd say, oh, he's an outsider.

00:48:07.880 He's not American.

00:48:08.820 Therefore he's evil, you know, and he's anti-American.

00:48:12.440 But there's many people in America who say, for example, when we talk about RFK and he's talking about poisonous food in the system,

00:48:22.740 someone like Julian doesn't have to harm Americans in that way because you could go to the supermarket and there's enough things in there that harms Americans.

00:48:32.460 You know, you don't have to, you don't have to drone Americans because Americans are selling Americans bad food, you know, and that, you know, and medical care, like their medical care is so expensive.

00:48:44.400 A lot of them are not interested in health like they should be, or, you know, like there's, there's loads of, there's loads of, um, things that American companies do themselves to hurt Americans.

00:49:00.980 Oh yeah.

00:49:01.660 And I think 2020 was like the, the first time you really saw that, like you saw how American government didn't care about the American people.

00:49:12.420 Like this is the first time American people saw that.

00:49:14.920 Realized it.

00:49:15.560 Yeah.

00:49:15.740 Yeah.

00:49:15.920 Because if you're not paying attention to the news, and this is what I was talking about when I opened the show, like everyone's shocked now.

00:49:22.460 And it's, it's wild to see all of these tweets from people who are not Trump supporters after the guilty verdict being like, holy crap, this country is blowing up.

00:49:30.220 And I'm like, man, that, I felt that way when I was hearing about the drone strikes.

00:49:35.180 Obama killed, I think like four, I don't know how many Americans said it was like four.

00:49:39.060 Or the, uh, the two most notable are Anwar and Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki, American citizens, no charge, no trial.

00:49:45.420 Obama blew them up.

00:49:46.480 He was also terrible to journalists.

00:49:48.520 Oh yeah.

00:49:49.060 And so when I, when I had heard.

00:49:50.760 Yes.

00:49:50.960 The internet, the net neutrality thing.

00:49:53.580 Oh, the espionage.

00:49:54.540 Oh yeah.

00:49:55.140 But there, there was.

00:49:55.880 Like for normal public, you know, our internet at that time in 2009, we were like, Hey, you know,

00:50:06.440 to understand the internet, like the government wasn't, I mean, maybe I was naive thinking that, but I felt like, oh, they, they hadn't quite processed how big the internet is and what it means to, you know, to, to regulate it.

00:50:24.080 But instead of it being regulated for the people, it got regulated for the tech companies to become billionaires, you know?

00:50:32.740 Oh yeah.

00:50:33.140 And, and that, that was, that was the thing that was done between, well, it was Obama's years, you know?

00:50:39.780 Yeah.

00:50:40.440 When, uh, when the national defense authorization act, I think this was 2012 was signed.

00:50:44.960 This was the one with the indefinite detention provision in it.

00:50:47.760 They actually said for the national defense authorization, the president will have the right to basically rendition anybody, show up to your house, mill the night, black bag, you drag you off to a barge somewhere and hold you.

00:50:58.960 And they're allowed to do it.

00:51:00.180 And Congress signs this.

00:51:01.780 Congress, I thought when that happened, I was like, wow, this country is, is, is done.

00:51:06.380 Obama killed American citizens.

00:51:08.680 And I'm like, this is the worst president.

00:51:10.960 This is, this is the worst president this country has ever seen.

00:51:13.200 And everyone's outside cheering and screaming and celebrating.

00:51:15.380 And I'm just like, this is, this is horrifying.

00:51:17.340 You could slow jam the news with Jimmy Fallon.

00:51:19.220 He puts on a tan suit.

00:51:20.340 He blows people up and then nobody cares.

00:51:22.500 He puts on a tan suit and everyone's making, oh, easily distracted.

00:51:24.880 We both like Kendrick Lamar.

00:51:25.900 So I guess it's okay when it comes to him, you know, but it's funny and not funny.

00:51:30.120 I think one of our biggest problems is our short-term memory, because this is just cyclical.

00:51:34.260 Like the Trump thing is a new unprecedented situation, but, you know, thinking of Assange

00:51:39.160 and what they do, what they're doing to him.

00:51:41.420 I mean, the Pentagon papers came out during Vietnam.

00:51:44.380 Ellsberg was that guy who released them.

00:51:45.880 He was, there was a manhunt for him.

00:51:47.720 Nixon shut down New York times for 15 days.

00:51:49.940 I think it was, you know, like there's constantly whistleblowers that, you know, during wartime

00:51:54.260 that the government just doesn't want you exposed because I think about this a lot yesterday

00:51:58.160 when it, because like with Assange, I'll say, oh, well, he hurt national security.

00:52:02.000 Who's security?

00:52:03.220 The elites.

00:52:03.920 The elite security, not ours.

00:52:05.540 He helped us.

00:52:06.200 Right.

00:52:06.900 Julian Assange's us.

00:52:07.660 And also like Snowden, he was American.

00:52:12.360 Right.

00:52:13.000 So there's the difference, you know, like then you, then because of that, then you have somebody

00:52:19.220 like Snowden come up after who was like, okay, well, I'm an American and I'm going to do

00:52:25.180 this for American people, you know, and because he, I don't know, I guess he's on his own.

00:52:31.520 They were able to say, well, he's a Russian asset or something and sort of build that.

00:52:38.060 But again, I think he was, he was genuinely doing it for the American people.

00:52:42.960 And then you get Donald Trump and now here's the current iteration.

00:52:46.940 And he is certainly an imperfect avatar of a lot of the anger people have.

00:52:51.740 But, you know, Edward Snowden is, is witnessing all of the lies, the corruption.

00:52:58.240 You've got, um, was it Brennan lied to Congress?

00:53:01.180 Uh, well, yeah.

00:53:02.020 Clapper too.

00:53:02.840 Clapper.

00:53:03.220 Was it Clapper?

00:53:03.680 When he said we weren't collecting.

00:53:04.820 Yeah.

00:53:05.040 That's what I meant.

00:53:05.620 That's what I meant.

00:53:06.120 Not Brennan.

00:53:06.780 He's, we're not collecting data.

00:53:08.220 And then Snowden's like, I'm going to just slide this over here to a couple of journalists.

00:53:12.260 The one challenge, the one problem I see with, with Snowden was he didn't actually read what

00:53:16.180 he leaked.

00:53:16.660 He knew some of it.

00:53:18.380 And then he grabbed a big trove of documents.

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00:54:45.600 Dumped him out there and I'm like, yeah, okay.

00:54:50.560 It's good that we exposed X-key score and these other spying programs, but he actually

00:54:54.560 got called out rightfully so.

00:54:55.660 And he acknowledged this, that some of the stuff he released was not properly redacted.

00:55:00.340 He gave this stuff to journalists.

00:55:01.700 The journalists published it and it actually put people at risk.

00:55:04.780 Right.

00:55:05.000 And he owned up, he said, yep, you're right.

00:55:06.800 I shouldn't have done that.

00:55:07.700 But I got to say like the net positive in the end, where we are today, knowing what they're

00:55:13.080 doing is good.

00:55:14.920 I will also then say, but has any of it stopped?

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00:55:20.460 No reform.

00:55:21.320 No stopping.

00:55:21.980 And that's why Omni is here.

00:55:25.660 New commercial.

00:55:26.440 Because they're not going to stop.

00:55:27.340 It's not going to stop.

00:55:28.140 Another thing that's cyclical.

00:55:29.320 I mean, Five Eyes, like we were talking about earlier, was born out of stuff like Project

00:55:33.780 Shamrock, Project Minaret, Project Echelon, where it's just global surveillance constantly.

00:55:39.740 And they're getting, you know, RCA to, the government's infiltrating RCA and all radio

00:55:46.120 stations and telegrams.

00:55:49.240 That's in the 40s.

00:55:50.680 That's happening.

00:55:51.580 You know, they obviously didn't stop.

00:55:52.940 Now we're on the collective consciousness of Twitter where they can just pick, you know,

00:55:56.660 pick it right out.

00:55:57.400 And they're watching you not just on your phones, they're watching you with Lockheed

00:56:00.400 Martin satellites in the sky.

00:56:01.720 That's why they got so mad when Elon bought Twitter and turned it into X.

00:56:05.120 Yeah.

00:56:05.660 Because this is basically their mass surveillance and manipulation program.

00:56:09.260 And it looks like convenience to us.

00:56:11.460 It's addicting.

00:56:12.840 People need to be on it.

00:56:13.900 See, this is, then you have to get back to the spirituality thing, because what is the

00:56:19.860 point of studying humans, you know, and what is the point of all that?

00:56:25.080 It's like, you want to make them buy more things to become rich, okay?

00:56:30.700 Then you become rich.

00:56:31.760 What do you do with all that money?

00:56:33.480 Like right now, say the military industrial complex or whoever you're talking about, they

00:56:39.120 have so much money or BlackRock.

00:56:41.900 What do you do with that money?

00:56:44.340 You control humans.

00:56:46.340 What do you do with that control?

00:56:48.580 You know, why do you want to control the humans?

00:56:51.880 So it just keeps going round and round in this circle of questions.

00:56:57.360 You're like, why do we do that?

00:56:59.280 We're constantly experimenting on ourselves.

00:57:01.360 Yeah.

00:57:01.840 So why are you trying to control them to spend money so you make money and you make them

00:57:08.320 send?

00:57:08.620 Like, that seems so pointless.

00:57:10.020 Like, especially digital currency, you can just think of a number and put it in there.

00:57:14.660 Like, you know, BlackRock could just already be doing that, saying we have $50 trillion.

00:57:20.980 They do.

00:57:21.660 You know, and they do.

00:57:23.160 They get loans from the Federal Reserve.

00:57:24.520 They get loans directly from the central banks.

00:57:26.260 Yeah, but it doesn't even have to be a loan.

00:57:27.720 You can literally just digitize, put in whatever number that the computer can hold.

00:57:31.980 And that's literally how they do it.

00:57:33.700 When money is created upon the issuance of debt.

00:57:36.560 So when BlackRock says, hey, we're going to buy this house, they just type in a number

00:57:41.100 on a computer, let's enter.

00:57:42.600 And now the money exists in the account of the person who sold the property.

00:57:45.840 Yeah.

00:57:46.100 So then that's the time we're living in.

00:57:48.560 And even money will just, it's like, you know, what is the value?

00:57:53.720 Yep.

00:57:53.840 So the value...

00:57:54.920 This is why people like Bitcoin.

00:57:56.380 Because it is decentralized and they can't control it.

00:58:00.020 They can put blocks in, they can put in law and things like this.

00:58:02.920 But ultimately, it's too big.

00:58:06.400 It's too big for them.

00:58:08.260 Yeah.

00:58:08.820 So then you're like, okay, it must be some sort of spiritual warfare.

00:58:19.660 I think so.

00:58:20.240 Because everything can be dismantled and remantled at such a speed, you know, nowadays, then the

00:58:31.060 purpose of why that's happening has to be something else.

00:58:34.240 And I think most of, you know, or the religion of choice for the coming world is supposed to

00:58:46.520 be Buddhism, right?

00:58:47.960 And Hinduism, I guess, because Hinduism is tolerant towards everything in a cosmic way, which is why...

00:59:05.960 I think it's Hinduism, and you might say it's something else.

00:59:10.800 Um, I'm not a big fan of tolerance, though.

00:59:14.520 I think that you have to be balanced with, you know, this country was predominantly Christian

00:59:21.280 for its history.

00:59:23.400 And now, because Christians are a tolerant people, and maybe took turn the other cheek,

00:59:29.320 literally, they've allowed evil to continually step beyond the boundary and enter their threshold.

00:59:34.340 Yeah, the thing about Hinduism is this, is that it's a very, very, very, very old religion,

00:59:39.440 right, or philosophy, or science, whatever you want to call it.

00:59:43.260 But it has enough information for scientists today, or people that are interested in religion

00:59:49.440 and spirituality today.

00:59:52.260 But over the, whatever, 6,000 years, it's been super corrupted, you know?

00:59:58.760 So you've got layers and layers and layers and layers and layers of stuff going on.

01:00:04.000 And Hinduism itself does have a concept of good and evil, you know, but that has been kind

01:00:11.800 of removed to people when they...

01:00:14.080 I know Hindus today who talk about Hinduism, but they never talk about the evil spirit in

01:00:19.560 Hinduism, you know, or the demonic entities in Hinduism.

01:00:23.780 There's many, like, you know, the Hindu gods.

01:00:26.760 There's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of Hindu gods, but they fought demons.

01:00:35.280 So there's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and thousands of demons too, you know?

01:00:39.720 Each Hindu god fights a demon.

01:00:42.080 And even, like, Shiva, his snake, the reason why he's blue and he has a snake around his neck

01:00:48.560 is because a snake bit him, and he was poisoned, which is why he turned blue.

01:00:53.420 And he took the snake, and he subdued the snake, and he wears it around his neck because he

01:00:58.500 conquered it, you know?

01:00:59.640 He conquered the demon that came to kill him.

01:01:02.540 And, but now everyone wears a snake as a symbol of Hinduism.

01:01:07.360 And, and you have gurus that make snake sounds when they enter the room, and you have to make

01:01:14.760 snake sounds when they exit the room and stuff.

01:01:17.120 And it becomes a thing.

01:01:18.100 Yeah, so you, you're like, when did, and, and there is a snake aspect to Hinduism where

01:01:24.640 Vishnu is a god that sits on a snake on the sea, and it's protecting him, and it's creating

01:01:30.600 a, um, uh, um, an umbrella for gods to chill under and stuff.

01:01:37.200 And you can have enlightened, you know, they've, they've been, like, subdued by the gods and

01:01:42.740 have been made into enlightened snakes, and then they come and help the gods.

01:01:48.200 But, so we have this, um, thing, you know, but in the modern day Hinduism and the way Hindus

01:01:55.800 are today, it's very chaotic.

01:01:59.200 And the, the, the, the way people follow Hinduism today, it's used in ways that I don't agree

01:02:07.540 with and I don't like, um, where it is coming from a, you know, I feel like when society

01:02:14.020 is broken, you know, and, and you're traumatized, and I can say that because I did suffer a lot

01:02:21.060 of trauma as a kid, living through the war and this and that, but I'm always aware of not

01:02:28.840 inflicting and putting that on people, you know, and that you have to be, um, a vessel

01:02:37.120 to put in negative information and turn it into positive and put it back out as a positive

01:02:42.440 information.

01:02:44.260 And, but Hinduism, it, it has a, it has a, a way you can learn the magic no matter who

01:02:52.520 you are, you know, because mantra is magic.

01:02:55.200 And you can learn the mantra without working on yourself, without being a positive thing.

01:03:02.460 Um, with all your negativity and trauma and all of that, if you put, if you arm yourself

01:03:08.600 with that power, you can inflict a lot of negativity, you know, and, and affect things in a bad way.

01:03:14.860 And this is, this is what I don't like about Hinduism is that it gives, it is tolerant to everybody

01:03:20.740 and it gives everyone the power to learn this magic, you know, and people use it wrong.

01:03:26.760 And then you have the chaos.

01:03:29.400 And, yeah.

01:03:30.520 Is it, is it, is it weird that the, uh, the snake here, it's a double helix snaking up?

01:03:37.080 I see a lot of the information.

01:03:38.440 This is what I'm talking about.

01:03:39.360 A lot of the information of our, our world that we live in comes from Hinduism, you know?

01:03:45.160 And so this would be ancient Babylonia information that, you know, the Abrahamic religions come

01:03:53.120 from.

01:03:53.720 This is why I should be on Joe Rogan.

01:03:56.260 I know a lot about this stuff.

01:03:58.940 So Abraham, right?

01:04:00.960 God told Abraham to come out of his father's house and then I'm going to give you a new religion.

01:04:06.200 And Abraham birthed Islam, you know, and the Christian religion, right?

01:04:12.520 Abraham's two sons are the ones warring in Israel right now.

01:04:17.060 You have Palestine and you've got Israel warring over this temple and it's both Abraham's

01:04:24.580 kids, right?

01:04:26.300 But Abraham came out of his father's house and his father came from a town called Ur, yeah?

01:04:33.760 And in the West they pronounce it Ur, but it's actually you are Ur.

01:04:38.020 And Ur in Tamil means town.

01:04:42.180 So you can Google the word, like you can Google South India and everywhere in South India where

01:04:47.420 Tamils come from, and I'm a Tamil, every town ends with the word Ur because it's that old

01:04:54.140 and ancient.

01:04:55.120 So, you know, it'd be like saying, um, uh, Charlestown Ur.

01:05:01.620 Right.

01:05:01.960 You know, instead of saying town, it would be Charlestown Ur.

01:05:04.320 Right.

01:05:04.560 Oh, yeah.

01:05:05.300 And, um.

01:05:06.560 We have Charlestown and Charlestown, which basically are the exact same thing, but one's just.

01:05:10.500 It's like West Virginia and Western Virginia.

01:05:13.200 Yeah, exactly.

01:05:13.960 I love that.

01:05:14.580 Yep.

01:05:15.380 Charles, Charlestown was literally just because tin is a corruption of town and they would

01:05:20.000 say it really fast.

01:05:20.840 The weirdest thing.

01:05:22.740 Yeah.

01:05:22.980 So Ur is a Tamil word.

01:05:24.820 So I think Tamil was present, yeah, in that time.

01:05:28.480 I just, I just mean that when you look at this, it's called the, uh, what the caduceus.

01:05:31.900 The symbol is, it's, it's two snakes spiraling up a staff.

01:05:38.160 Yes.

01:05:38.600 Forming a double helix like DNA.

01:05:40.720 Yes.

01:05:41.060 And it says snakes are seen as holders of knowledge, strength, and renewal.

01:05:44.300 Quite literally, DNA is the holder of knowledge and birth.

01:05:47.460 Yes, true.

01:05:48.200 And also, so in Hinduism, the snake is, um, representative of how the energy moves through

01:05:56.180 your body, through your chakras.

01:05:57.980 And then it gets up to your, the wings.

01:06:00.480 So the, the symbol that you saw there had wings at the top and then it had the, a bulb

01:06:05.520 at the top, which is the third eye or your pineal gland, which is your wisdom.

01:06:11.580 Interesting.

01:06:11.900 How did you look at the snake after becoming Christian?

01:06:15.820 Uh, did it change if you look back at like, you know, Genesis and Adam and Eve?

01:06:20.780 Well, no, actually, because I do think that it represents the beginning and the end and

01:06:25.600 it's kind of the cycle thing as well.

01:06:28.160 Um, and, uh, yeah, I, I think about that because also the Pope's auditorium is a snake.

01:06:39.960 Like, is it really?

01:06:41.080 Yeah.

01:06:41.440 Oh, like the architecture.

01:06:43.160 Yeah.

01:06:43.640 Are you talking about, I think I've seen that.

01:06:45.240 Yeah.

01:06:45.480 That's crazy.

01:06:46.540 Yeah.

01:06:46.820 So the snake is there and, yeah, I mean, like you don't spend billions of dollars building

01:06:52.540 that thing.

01:06:53.380 It's like, I need a snake.

01:06:55.480 Over years and not know that it was a snake.

01:06:58.120 I just wonder if, uh, if, you know, people knew things back then or how did this symbol,

01:07:04.780 you know, it's just kind of, it's interesting that it's, it resembles DNA.

01:07:07.760 I think we, I think people like some things or, or someone explained to them what DNA

01:07:12.000 was.

01:07:12.840 And so like the cargo cults, the cargo.

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01:08:41.220 Colts, for people that don't know, these are uncontacted Pacific islands that saw planes

01:08:47.880 flying overhead during, I think, World War II and didn't know what they were seeing.

01:08:51.640 So they built effigies of the planes and then began to worship them, hoping they would come

01:08:54.580 back.

01:08:55.600 And so I'm wondering if this is something similar.

01:08:57.160 Someone explained DNA to ancient people and they didn't quite understand what was being

01:09:02.420 explained.

01:09:02.960 So they drew this picture.

01:09:04.880 Imagine someone being...

01:09:05.960 Well, actually, that, the ancient, is it ancient apocalypse?

01:09:11.540 The Graham Hancock thing?

01:09:13.460 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:09:14.200 Oh, right.

01:09:14.780 And he goes back to the first ever town in Turkey and they have a snake on the side of

01:09:19.580 their building, the first monolith that was built.

01:09:24.380 And then in the Mayan civilization, like Chichen Itza, the pyramid, that Chichen Itza means the

01:09:31.960 flying snake, yeah.

01:09:33.320 And it's snakes with wings.

01:09:37.280 And so it is there in every ancient society.

01:09:42.600 The snake is there as a symbol.

01:09:44.860 Yeah.

01:09:45.140 So we do have, the press conference will be starting at any moment.

01:09:49.900 Right now there's just placeholder music, so we'll pull it up as soon as it does.

01:09:54.640 Did religion play a major part in the genocide in Sri Lanka or was it more of like political

01:10:00.440 issues?

01:10:01.480 It was political, but that's what I'm saying.

01:10:03.860 It's now beginning to play more of a role because people feel very hopeless and, you know,

01:10:13.820 religion or Hinduism definitely is giving them an identity.

01:10:17.980 Because it is, it, Tamils, it's not a religious, it's an ethnic war.

01:10:24.500 So Tamils were there in Sri Lanka for a long time.

01:10:26.960 And this, this can be debated because the pure Tamil is called Sendhamal and that comes from Sri Lanka.

01:10:40.240 And then the Indian Tamil is like a dialect from that.

01:10:43.740 So it's not the other way around.

01:10:45.540 And so this is a bit that only a real Tamil knows.

01:10:50.820 And so even the Indian Tamils would tell you that the Sri Lankan Tamil is like the pure Tamil.

01:10:55.980 Wow.

01:10:56.080 So how does a pure Tamil come from a tiny island and then spread to the mainland when history always told us that it's the other way around?

01:11:04.740 So Tamils have already been on this island for a very long time.

01:11:08.340 And so, and the Sinhalese are sort of people that were made from people that travel from the north, North Indians, around Bangladesh area near Thailand.

01:11:24.140 So there's a document called Maa Bamsa, which goes back a very long time that says Sinhalese came from a mixture of maybe people from Kerala mixed with people near Bangladesh and Thailand.

01:11:39.400 And that's why it also carries Buddhism as the main religion.

01:11:43.640 But the Tamils were already always associated to South Indians.

01:11:48.460 And I like the ancient apocalypse stuff.

01:11:51.160 Oh, yeah.

01:11:51.700 Because, not that I think there's a high probability of being true or anything, but when you look at stuff like, you know, they have, what is that little airplane they found?

01:12:02.040 Some people say just a fish.

01:12:03.620 The drawing of one you're saying?

01:12:04.280 No, no, the little models of airplanes.

01:12:05.940 Oh, I don't know.

01:12:06.620 And then many people just say all they did was make a brass fish.

01:12:10.000 It's artistic representation of a fish with fins.

01:12:12.480 You're over, you know, there's no tail or whatever.

01:12:14.760 But you think about what would happen if there was some kind of advanced civilization and technology was destroyed, lost as apocalypse.

01:12:22.980 The people who know the technology trying to explain it without books or references or computers to their kid.

01:12:30.080 What would their kid take away from it?

01:12:31.680 And how would that be corrupted?

01:12:32.940 So you look at, like, the serpents coiling around the staff, representing, you know, strength, life, rebirth, or whatever.

01:12:41.000 And then you have civilization's collapsed.

01:12:42.980 The dude wearing a bunch of rags.

01:12:44.100 His kid is born.

01:12:45.700 Ten years go by.

01:12:47.260 The kid's now ten years old.

01:12:48.240 It's been 15 years since the apocalypse.

01:12:50.060 And he's like, so DNA, deoxyribonucleic acid.

01:12:54.060 That's what we called it.

01:12:55.020 And he's like, I don't know what that word is.

01:12:56.120 He's like, no, no, no, it's like two strands that spiral up called a double helix.

01:13:00.320 He draws a picture of it.

01:13:01.600 And the kid's like, uh-huh.

01:13:02.900 And now when that kid, having no idea what it means, is older, he goes, it's like two snakes spinning.

01:13:07.820 You know, and that's where the strength comes from.

01:13:10.380 That's how the knowledge breaks down without record.

01:13:12.860 That's one of the weird things about the genocide.

01:13:14.980 Like, already people don't talk about the Sri Lanka, what happened to the Tamils.

01:13:17.860 But then the other thing I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, Jaffna, the library,

01:13:21.620 they burned down, like, hundreds of thousands of old manuscripts, right?

01:13:27.060 Old, old books.

01:13:27.520 So you lost a lot of that.

01:13:28.780 Because also, like, the Tamils in Sri Lanka are important.

01:13:30.900 We fought for, our revolution was fighting for a place called Elam.

01:13:35.180 We named our land Elam.

01:13:38.020 So my dad's organization, EROS, is Elam, Revolutionary Organization of Students.

01:13:46.020 And what is Elam?

01:13:47.420 Where do they get that name from?

01:13:48.700 And Elam and Elamites are going back to Ur, back in Mesopotamia.

01:13:54.060 That's where it is.

01:13:55.920 So what, what, Tamils...

01:13:58.680 Sorry, Trump's, Trump's walking in.

01:14:00.240 Let's grab the press conference.

01:14:03.180 Tamil, Jaffna, Elam, and Elamites.

01:14:07.820 Came back to that.

01:14:08.900 Thank you very much, everybody.

01:14:11.640 This is a case where if they can do this to me, they can do this to anyone.

01:14:18.700 These are bad people.

01:14:20.900 These are, in many cases, I believe, sick people.

01:14:24.240 When you look at our country, what's happening where millions and millions of people are flowing in from all parts of the world, not just South America, from Africa, from Asia, from the Middle East.

01:14:35.060 And they're coming in from jails and prisons, and they're coming in from mental institutions and insane asylums.

01:14:44.860 They're coming in from all over the world into our country.

01:14:47.560 And we have a president and a group of fascists that don't want to do anything about it, because they could right now, today.

01:14:56.240 He could stop it.

01:14:57.500 But he's not.

01:14:58.460 They're destroying our country.

01:14:59.940 Our country is in very bad shape.

01:15:01.520 And they're very much against me saying these things.

01:15:05.480 They want to raise your taxes by four times.

01:15:10.060 They want to stop you from having cars with their ridiculous mandates that make it impossible for you to get a car or afford a car.

01:15:18.660 But make it very possible for China to build all of our cars.

01:15:22.060 It's a very serious problem that we have.

01:15:26.920 We just went through one of many experiences where we had a conflicted judge, highly conflicted.

01:15:35.560 There's never been a more conflicted judge.

01:15:37.740 Now, I'm under a gag order, which nobody's ever been under.

01:15:40.440 No presidential candidate's ever been under a gag order before.

01:15:44.140 I'm under a gag order, nasty gag order, where I've had to pay thousands of dollars in penalties and fines.

01:15:51.320 And was threatened with jail.

01:15:54.380 Think of it.

01:15:55.100 I'm the leading candidate.

01:15:57.680 I'm leading Biden by a lot.

01:15:59.740 And I'm leading the Republicans to the point where that's over.

01:16:04.860 So I'm the leading person for president.

01:16:07.240 And I'm under a gag order by a man that can't put two sentences together, given by a court.

01:16:14.160 And they are in total conjunction with the White House and the DOJ, just so you understand.

01:16:18.500 This is all done by Biden and his people.

01:16:20.360 Maybe his people, more importantly, I don't know if Biden knows too much about it, because

01:16:25.460 I don't know if he knows about anything.

01:16:27.680 But he's nevertheless the president.

01:16:30.020 So we have to use his name.

01:16:32.640 And this is done by Washington.

01:16:35.720 And nobody's ever seen anything like it.

01:16:38.740 So we have a judge who's highly conflicted.

01:16:40.900 You know what the confliction is.

01:16:42.220 Nobody, nobody wants to write about it.

01:16:44.840 And I'm not allowed to talk about it.

01:16:46.980 If I do, he said, I get put in jail.

01:16:50.360 So we'll play that game a little bit longer.

01:16:52.900 We won't talk about it.

01:16:53.880 But you're allowed to talk about it.

01:16:55.220 I hope you do.

01:16:56.240 Because there's never been anybody so conflicted as this.

01:17:00.560 As far as the trial itself, it was very unfair.

01:17:04.740 We weren't allowed to use our election expert under any circumstances.

01:17:11.940 You saw what happened to some of the witnesses that were on our side.

01:17:16.920 They were literally crucified by this man who looks like an angel, but he's really a devil.

01:17:24.300 He looks so nice and soft.

01:17:26.480 People say, oh, he seems like such a nice man.

01:17:28.580 No, unless you saw him in action.

01:17:29.880 And you saw that with a certain witness that went through hell.

01:17:36.340 And when we wanted to do things, he wouldn't let him, he wouldn't let us do those things.

01:17:42.420 But when the government wanted something, they got everything.

01:17:45.580 They got everything they wanted.

01:17:48.000 It's a rigged, it was a rigged trial.

01:17:50.180 We wanted a venue change where we could have a fair trial.

01:17:54.720 We didn't get it.

01:17:56.040 We wanted a judge change.

01:17:57.440 We wanted a judge that wasn't conflicted.

01:18:00.540 And obviously, he didn't do that.

01:18:04.260 Nobody's ever seen anything like it.

01:18:06.600 We had a DA who was a failed DA.

01:18:11.020 Crime is rampant in New York.

01:18:12.600 Violent crime.

01:18:13.200 That's what he's really supposed to be looking at.

01:18:16.100 Crime is rampant in New York.

01:18:18.840 Yesterday, at McDonald's, you had a man hitting him up with machetes.

01:18:24.940 A machete.

01:18:25.900 Whoever can imagine even a machete being wielded in a store in a place where they're eating and he's going rampant and Bragg is down watching a trial.

01:18:38.100 On what they call crimes.

01:18:44.480 They're falsifying business records.

01:18:47.220 That sounds so bad.

01:18:48.040 To me, it sounds very bad.

01:18:49.400 You know, it's only a misdemeanor.

01:18:51.200 But to me, it sounds so bad.

01:18:52.400 When they say falsifying business, that's a bad thing for me.

01:18:55.880 I've never had that before.

01:18:57.640 I'm falsifying.

01:18:58.740 You know what falsifying business records is?

01:19:00.860 In the first degree.

01:19:02.140 They say falsifying business records.

01:19:04.300 Sounds so good, right?

01:19:05.440 It means that legal expense, I paid a lawyer, totally legal.

01:19:12.460 I paid a lawyer a legal expense.

01:19:16.000 And a bookkeeper, without any knowledge from me, correctly marked it down in the books.

01:19:21.260 A very professional woman, highly respected.

01:19:23.840 She testified.

01:19:25.640 Marked it down in the books as a legal expense.

01:19:27.580 And so a legal expense, paid a lawyer, is a legal expense in the books.

01:19:33.180 It's not sheetrock, construction, or any other thing.

01:19:38.720 It's a legal expense.

01:19:41.260 Think of that.

01:19:42.440 This is what the falsification of business records were.

01:19:45.600 And I said, what else are you going to call it?

01:19:49.560 What else are you going to call it?

01:19:50.980 Now, I would have testified.

01:19:52.160 I wanted to testify.

01:19:54.020 The theory is you never testify.

01:19:55.680 Because as soon as you testify, anybody, if it were George Washington, don't testify.

01:19:59.880 Because they'll get you on something that you said slightly wrong.

01:20:02.280 And then they sue you for perjury.

01:20:03.860 But I didn't care about that.

01:20:05.100 I wanted to.

01:20:06.140 But the judge allowed them to go into everything that I was ever involved in.

01:20:10.060 Not this case.

01:20:11.060 Everything that I was ever involved in.

01:20:13.740 Which is a first.

01:20:15.320 In other words, you could go into every single thing that I ever did.

01:20:20.180 Was he a bad boy here?

01:20:21.600 Was he a bad boy there?

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01:21:47.360 Did I mention that we care?

01:21:48.540 And my lawyer said, what do you need to go through?

01:21:53.640 And all you wanted to do is testify simply on this case, because I would have loved to

01:21:58.380 have testified to this day.

01:21:59.660 I would have liked to have testified, but you would have been, you would have said something

01:22:03.620 out of whack, like it was a beautiful sunny day and it was actually raining out.

01:22:08.340 And I very much appreciate the big crowd of people outside.

01:22:11.780 That's incredible.

01:22:12.580 The level of support has been incredible.

01:22:16.900 So the whole thing is legal expense was marked down as legal expense.

01:22:23.380 Think of it.

01:22:23.820 This is my, this is the crime that I committed that I'm supposed to go to jail for 187 years

01:22:30.680 for when you have violent crime all over this city at levels that nobody's ever seen before

01:22:37.260 where you have businesses leaving and businesses are leaving because of this, because heads

01:22:41.600 of businesses say, man, we don't want to get involved with that.

01:22:46.200 I could go through the books of any business person in this city and I could find things

01:22:52.560 that in theory, I guess, let's indict him.

01:22:55.400 Let's destroy his life.

01:22:57.900 But I'm out there and I don't mind being out there because I'm doing something for this

01:23:02.420 country and I'm doing something for our constitution.

01:23:05.240 It's very important, far beyond me.

01:23:08.200 And this can't be allowed to happen to other presidents.

01:23:10.780 It should never be allowed to happen in the future.

01:23:14.800 But this is far beyond me.

01:23:16.360 This is bigger than Trump.

01:23:17.420 This is bigger than me.

01:23:18.340 This is bigger than my presidency.

01:23:20.960 And the people understand it because I just see a poll just came out, the Daily Mail.

01:23:27.360 That was the first one came out.

01:23:29.180 It was done last night right after the verdict where I'm up six points, six points from what

01:23:35.640 we already were.

01:23:36.680 We were leading fairly substantially.

01:23:38.680 We're up six points in the Daily Mail poll.

01:23:41.760 Now, maybe other polls come out and it says something differently.

01:23:44.800 But a lot of people have predicted it because the public understands and they understand what's

01:23:49.240 what's going on.

01:23:51.160 This is a scam.

01:23:52.900 There's a rigged trial.

01:23:55.080 It shouldn't have been in that venue.

01:23:56.740 We shouldn't have had that judge.

01:23:58.580 He should have allowed allowed us to have an election expert.

01:24:01.620 We had the best expert, most respected expert, head of the Federal Elections Commission.

01:24:07.700 He was all set to testify.

01:24:09.260 He was waiting for two days.

01:24:12.020 And when it was his turn, Bragg's people protested.

01:24:16.680 And the judge knocked him out, said you can't testify.

01:24:19.580 He actually said you can't testify for anything having to do with the trial.

01:24:23.040 You can say what the federal elections is.

01:24:26.140 Well, that doesn't help.

01:24:27.380 Everybody knows that.

01:24:28.940 But you can't testify.

01:24:30.240 So essentially, he wasn't able to testify.

01:24:33.420 Other people weren't able to testify.

01:24:35.240 But with these people, they were able to use people salacious.

01:24:41.980 By the way, and nothing ever happened.

01:24:45.120 There was no anything.

01:24:47.300 Nothing ever happened and they know it.

01:24:49.280 But they were as salacious as they could be.

01:24:52.340 And it had nothing to do with the case.

01:24:54.240 But it had to do with politics.

01:24:57.300 And do you notice the timing?

01:24:58.680 The timing was perfect.

01:25:00.520 This case was dead.

01:25:01.660 It was dropped by every agency, every governmental board.

01:25:06.600 It was dropped by the highly respected Southern District.

01:25:10.400 They said, no, there's no case here.

01:25:12.960 It was dropped by federal election.

01:25:14.960 And that's what it's about.

01:25:15.720 This is about a federal election, not a state election.

01:25:17.920 You're not even allowed to look at it.

01:25:19.680 They took the state and the city and they went into a federal election.

01:25:23.980 They're not allowed.

01:25:25.040 The people from federal elections, Southern District, and Washington dropped the case.

01:25:29.900 Everybody dropped the case.

01:25:31.200 There was no case.

01:25:33.180 Cy Vance dropped the case.

01:25:35.280 And when Brad came in, he said, this is the most ridiculous case I've ever seen.

01:25:39.540 And who would have a certain person, again, gag order,

01:25:42.680 who would have a certain person like this ever testify?

01:25:45.640 He said, this is essentially one of the worst people I've ever seen, ever, to testify.

01:25:52.540 He said, the craziest case I've ever seen, this is Bragg.

01:25:56.720 Then when I announced I was running for president, long time later,

01:26:01.680 they decided to revive this case.

01:26:04.460 And they got a judge, Judge Marchion,

01:26:09.780 who was responsible for another case that was also brought,

01:26:15.680 destroyed the life of a very good man, by the way,

01:26:18.120 destroyed the life of a very good man,

01:26:20.780 who went to prison once,

01:26:23.400 and then they just put him in prison again because they said he lied.

01:26:27.980 He didn't lie.

01:26:28.800 I looked at the statements he made.

01:26:30.580 In fact, he didn't remember something and they put him in jail.

01:26:33.460 Again, they've destroyed him.

01:26:36.480 With me for many years, he was an honorable person.

01:26:39.080 He was an honest man.

01:26:41.720 And if you look at what he did, supposedly,

01:26:45.620 it never happened.

01:26:46.680 There's never been anything like this.

01:26:48.720 Over the education of his grandchildren.

01:26:52.200 Over, he didn't report that he had a car,

01:26:55.000 or two cars, on his income.

01:26:56.980 I don't know.

01:26:58.060 I wonder how many people here have cars.

01:26:59.960 I wonder how many people said,

01:27:01.100 oh, gee, I have a car that's worth X dollars.

01:27:03.040 How do you even figure it?

01:27:04.080 And I guess you do have to report it,

01:27:05.780 but I would say probably almost nobody does.

01:27:09.460 Nobody even thinks about it.

01:27:10.940 They put this man, they destroyed this man,

01:27:13.260 but they put him in jail again because they didn't want him to testify.

01:27:18.480 They didn't want him to testify.

01:27:20.280 That's why he went to jail.

01:27:22.560 They put him in jail twice.

01:27:25.000 He's 77 years old.

01:27:27.640 Now, normally I'd say that's an old guy,

01:27:30.960 but I don't feel 77.

01:27:34.280 Nobody ever says that about me.

01:27:35.700 I'd like them to say, gee,

01:27:37.480 we have to have a little sorrow for this man

01:27:39.640 because they just don't say that about me,

01:27:42.900 but maybe I'm better off that way.

01:27:44.320 I think I'm probably better off that way,

01:27:45.880 but they put him in jail twice.

01:27:49.140 And you have to see what they put him in jail,

01:27:50.880 and he was threatened by the judge.

01:27:52.460 This man was told you're going to get 15 years in jail

01:27:57.600 if you don't give up Trump.

01:28:01.200 And he was told that.

01:28:03.480 You're going to get 15 years in jail.

01:28:07.200 And he made a plea deal

01:28:09.900 because he didn't want to spend the rest of his life,

01:28:12.820 and he was told that viciously.

01:28:15.540 We're living in a fascist state.

01:28:18.400 He was told that viciously.

01:28:20.240 So you can go to jail for four months, five months,

01:28:25.220 or you can get 15 years in jail.

01:28:29.300 So do a plea.

01:28:31.560 Almost who wouldn't do that plea?

01:28:33.400 Everyone does those pleas.

01:28:34.720 It's a horrible thing.

01:28:36.780 There's a whole group of lawyers that fight that.

01:28:38.640 It's so unfair.

01:28:39.660 It's so unfair.

01:28:40.940 But they destroyed his life.

01:28:43.260 So many other things.

01:28:44.840 You look at Southern District

01:28:46.960 didn't want to bring the case.

01:28:48.320 Nobody wanted to bring the case.

01:28:53.380 And then you know who didn't want to bring the case?

01:28:55.100 Most of all is Bragg.

01:28:57.700 Bragg didn't want to bring it.

01:28:58.980 But then he brought it,

01:29:00.220 and they tried to make it a different case.

01:29:02.520 They didn't say legal expense equal legal expense.

01:29:04.660 Again, if I wrote down and paid a lawyer,

01:29:10.260 and by the way, this was a highly qualified lawyer.

01:29:12.440 Now, I'm not allowed to use his name because of the gag order.

01:29:15.140 But you know, he's a sleazebag.

01:29:16.700 Everybody knows that.

01:29:18.020 Took me a while to find out.

01:29:20.400 But he was effective.

01:29:21.800 He did work.

01:29:23.580 But he wasn't a fixer.

01:29:24.600 He was a lawyer.

01:29:25.300 You know, they like to use the word fixer.

01:29:26.720 He wasn't a fixer.

01:29:27.420 He was a lawyer.

01:29:27.940 At the time, he was a fully accredited lawyer.

01:29:31.580 Now, he got into trouble not because of me.

01:29:33.660 He got into trouble because he made outside deals,

01:29:35.840 and he had something to do with taxi cabs and medallions,

01:29:39.000 and he borrowed money.

01:29:41.100 And that's why he went.

01:29:42.400 And then he pled to three election violations.

01:29:50.620 And as soon as I saw that, I said, I wonder why he did that.

01:29:53.200 He pled.

01:29:53.720 He took a deal.

01:29:55.320 Now, he took a deal because he wanted to get off.

01:29:58.360 In other words, I'll take a plea deal, and I want to get off.

01:30:01.840 And he wanted to make a deal with the Southern District.

01:30:04.320 And they wrote the worst report I think I've ever seen on any human being,

01:30:09.980 other than the report that was written on James Comey by the inspector general,

01:30:16.920 a very great inspector general, actually, wrote a report that was so bad.

01:30:21.500 This one was possibly worse.

01:30:24.840 The Southern District, the judge didn't let us use it.

01:30:27.900 He said, it's hearsay.

01:30:28.820 I said, it's not hearsay.

01:30:29.860 Wouldn't let us use it.

01:30:31.240 This is about the man.

01:30:33.020 But he got in trouble for a very simple reason,

01:30:36.780 because he was involved with borrowing a lot of money,

01:30:40.820 and he did something with the banks.

01:30:42.460 I don't know if it's defrauded the banks, but something happened.

01:30:45.820 You guys know what it is.

01:30:47.780 And then in addition to that, he gave up on three things where he wasn't guilty.

01:30:51.800 In fact, they were going to testify in that.

01:30:53.560 The head of the FEC, Brad Smith, the election expert,

01:30:58.520 number one rated in the country, was going to testify.

01:31:01.900 He took a plea on three things.

01:31:04.180 He just added them in because that gave him more bargaining power with respect to me.

01:31:08.260 But the three things that he pled on having to do with the election

01:31:12.260 and having to do essentially a little bit with me,

01:31:16.840 they weren't crimes.

01:31:18.920 They weren't crimes.

01:31:20.780 Nor is paying money under an NDA.

01:31:25.140 So we have an NDA, non-disclosure agreement.

01:31:28.240 It's a big deal, a non-disclosure agreement.

01:31:31.420 Totally honorable, totally good, totally accepted.

01:31:34.540 Everybody has them.

01:31:36.520 Every company has non-disclosure agreements.

01:31:39.700 But the press called it slush fund and all sorts of other things.

01:31:44.860 Hush money, hush money.

01:31:46.120 It's not hush money.

01:31:46.840 It's called a non-disclosure agreement.

01:31:49.360 And most of the people in this room have a non-disclosure agreement with their company.

01:31:55.400 It's a disgrace.

01:31:56.700 So it's not hush money.

01:31:59.520 It's a non-disclosure agreement.

01:32:00.860 Totally legal.

01:32:02.520 Totally common.

01:32:04.400 Everyone has it.

01:32:06.080 And what happened is he signed a non-disclosure agreement with this person,

01:32:14.760 I guess other people.

01:32:15.720 But it's totally honest.

01:32:17.160 You're allowed to make the payment.

01:32:18.780 You don't have to make it.

01:32:20.000 You can make it any way you want.

01:32:21.260 It's a non-disclosure agreement.

01:32:22.340 And he signed that.

01:32:25.220 And there was nothing wrong with signing it.

01:32:27.960 And this should have been a non-case.

01:32:30.460 And everybody said it was a non-case, including Bragg.

01:32:33.200 Bragg said, until I ran for office.

01:32:35.540 And then they saw the polls.

01:32:36.760 I was leading the Republicans.

01:32:38.280 I was leading the Democrats.

01:32:39.400 I was leading everybody.

01:32:41.040 And all of a sudden, they brought it back.

01:32:44.840 It's a very sad thing that's happening in our country.

01:32:48.620 And it's a thing that I'm honored.

01:32:52.040 In a way, I'm honored.

01:32:53.080 It's not that it's pleasant.

01:32:54.880 It's very bad for family.

01:32:57.160 It's very bad for friends and businesses.

01:33:00.500 But I'm honored to be involved in it because somebody has to do it.

01:33:04.060 And I might as well keep going and be the one.

01:33:06.060 But I'm very honored to be involved because we're fighting for our Constitution.

01:33:10.800 The money that was paid was paid legally.

01:33:16.960 There was nothing illegal.

01:33:18.920 In fact, the lawyer, in creating the NDA, because at that time, he was a fully accredited lawyer.

01:33:24.120 He wasn't a fixer.

01:33:25.780 I never thought of him as a fixer.

01:33:28.040 The media called him a fixer or the prosecutors called him a fixer.

01:33:31.940 He was a lawyer, and he was fairly good.

01:33:36.480 Later on, I didn't like what he did.

01:33:38.220 I didn't like, for instance, I didn't like that when I became president, he went around and made deals with companies.

01:33:45.200 When I heard that, he was gone.

01:33:47.500 He was gone.

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01:35:13.340 And he had payments coming to him, and a lot of this involved things that are very simple.

01:35:24.160 There was nothing wrong.

01:35:25.040 These were standard.

01:35:26.000 This was standard stuff.

01:35:27.560 All standard stuff.

01:35:29.920 Everything involved was standard.

01:35:31.500 There was no crime here.

01:35:33.240 In fact, I just watched a couple of the reports.

01:35:36.380 You watched Jonathan Turley, Andy McCarthy, Greg Jarrett.

01:35:40.080 You look at all of these people, Mark Levin, all very talented people, great people, many more, many more.

01:35:50.320 And they don't know me, essentially.

01:35:53.060 They don't know me.

01:35:53.840 They're legal scholars and experts.

01:35:57.460 But I look at them.

01:35:58.540 I watched Turley this morning saying, there's no crime here.

01:36:03.780 Everybody says there's no crime here.

01:36:06.620 Except for this DA that's got the city out of control with crime.

01:36:10.980 It's absolutely out of control.

01:36:12.900 So we have an NDA that was signed.

01:36:15.660 We have legal expenses.

01:36:17.740 And here's the thing.

01:36:18.860 On legal expenses, you have 100 where they say they do a charge.

01:36:27.780 I just recorded this out.

01:36:30.540 Falsification of business records in the first degree.

01:36:34.220 It sounds so bad.

01:36:35.820 I said, wow.

01:36:37.660 And even my own lawyers, I get very upset with them because they don't say what it is.

01:36:44.000 They say, well, falsification of legal records is only a felony.

01:36:50.340 Well, that's a lot.

01:36:51.300 It's only a, they say, a misdemeanor.

01:36:53.800 But they try and bring it up to a felony if there's two crimes.

01:36:56.700 They have all these different things.

01:36:58.260 The other thing is they miss the statute of limitations by a lot.

01:37:02.060 Because this was very old.

01:37:03.260 They could have brought this seven years ago instead of bringing it right in the middle of the election.

01:37:07.560 So they missed the statute of limitations.

01:37:09.780 They did everything.

01:37:10.760 Now, let me give you the good news.

01:37:12.260 The good news is, last night, we just got a report this morning.

01:37:19.760 In the history of politics, I believe.

01:37:22.360 Maybe I'm wrong.

01:37:23.280 Somebody will find that I'm wrong.

01:37:24.620 Maybe.

01:37:25.080 But I don't think so.

01:37:25.940 They raised with small money donors, meaning like $21, $42, $53, $38, a record $39 million in about a 10-hour period.

01:37:43.600 Wow.

01:37:44.240 No, think of that.

01:37:46.180 Their previous press release was 34.8.

01:37:48.020 I like those people.

01:37:55.540 Because so far, I guess it's backfiring.

01:37:57.660 Now, I don't know.

01:37:58.560 I'd rather not have it happen.

01:38:00.000 I don't want to have it backfiring.

01:38:01.200 I don't want to win this thing legitimately.

01:38:03.460 Not because they were stupid and did things that they shouldn't be doing.

01:38:07.300 They shouldn't have brought this case.

01:38:09.540 They were saying it this morning.

01:38:11.360 This is a case that should not have been brought.

01:38:15.680 I watched Andy McCarthy say, this is a case that should not have been brought.

01:38:20.160 And that was this morning.

01:38:22.100 But they all say that.

01:38:23.300 Every legal scholar has said it.

01:38:25.240 Every legal.

01:38:25.720 And these are great people.

01:38:27.820 They really understand the law.

01:38:30.020 The other thing, a poll just came out.

01:38:31.640 The first poll.

01:38:32.220 I don't know, maybe others will be bad.

01:38:34.660 But a poll just came out a little while ago.

01:38:38.120 The Daily Mail.

01:38:38.960 Does anybody read the Daily Mail?

01:38:40.460 It's very good.

01:38:41.140 They have a good poll.

01:38:42.620 At least I like it today.

01:38:44.800 And the Daily Mail just came out with a poll.

01:38:48.180 And it has Trump up six points in the last 12 hours.

01:38:54.080 Six points.

01:38:54.520 Six points since this happened.

01:38:57.020 Who thought this could happen?

01:39:02.220 Because the people of our country know it's a hoax.

01:39:05.340 They know it's a hoax.

01:39:06.300 They get it.

01:39:06.860 You know, they're really smart.

01:39:08.960 And it's really something.

01:39:11.560 So we're going to be appealing this scam.

01:39:14.980 We're going to be appealing it on many different things.

01:39:17.280 He wouldn't allow us to have witnesses.

01:39:18.800 He wouldn't allow us to talk.

01:39:20.100 He wouldn't allow us to do anything.

01:39:22.120 The judge was a tyrant.

01:39:24.760 And you got to see that with Bob Costello.

01:39:27.860 A fine man.

01:39:30.320 I've never seen anything like it.

01:39:32.160 And neither has anybody that was in that courthouse where he demanded that the courthouse be cleared.

01:39:36.480 Now, the good news is most of the people in the courthouse were the media.

01:39:39.840 And anybody that was in the media, if you're fair, you'll say, wow, that was anger.

01:39:46.580 That was crazed.

01:39:47.820 He was crazed.

01:39:50.080 And the reason that Bob Costello acted a little bit upset, which I think he has a right to,

01:39:56.740 was that every question he was being asked was being objected to by the other side and sustained by the judge.

01:40:07.280 Sustained, sustained, sustained.

01:40:09.160 I think he did it many times.

01:40:10.800 I don't know what the number is.

01:40:11.740 Many times.

01:40:12.840 Even I was sitting there saying.

01:40:14.240 And these were basic questions.

01:40:16.860 And I never saw anybody treated that way by a judge.

01:40:20.100 And I've been treated very badly by two other judges also.

01:40:22.840 Because it's all the same thing.

01:40:24.100 And it all comes out of the White House, crooked Joe Biden, the worst president in the history of our country.

01:40:29.680 He's the worst president in the history of our country, the most incompetent.

01:40:35.600 He's the dumbest president we've ever had.

01:40:38.340 He's the dumbest president, most incompetent president.

01:40:42.140 And he's the most dishonest president we've ever had.

01:40:45.280 And so many of the he's a Manchurian candidate.

01:40:48.020 You take a look at the way he treats China, Russia, so many others.

01:40:53.600 You know, I ended the Russian pipeline.

01:40:55.260 It was dead.

01:40:56.580 He comes in and he approves it.

01:40:59.120 And he gets three and a half million, meaning three and a half million is paid to the family, his family, from the mayor of Moscow's wife.

01:41:08.840 And I said, where did that come from?

01:41:11.080 Nobody wants to talk about it.

01:41:12.620 But he's a very big danger to our country.

01:41:17.200 And the only way they think they can win this election is by doing exactly what they're doing right now, win it in the courts because they can't win it at the ballot box.

01:41:25.480 So we're going to show them that, oh, we're going to fight.

01:41:31.840 It's actually, I don't know, it's something where I'm wired in such a way that a lot of people would have gone away a long time ago.

01:41:40.220 They would have gone away after impeachment hoax number one.

01:41:42.600 That was a total hoax.

01:41:44.380 I had great support from the Republican Party, though.

01:41:47.020 Then you had impeachment hoax number two.

01:41:48.820 And then they formed the committee.

01:41:51.500 How about they formed the committee of thugs, the J-6th Committee of Thugs.

01:41:58.660 And they took their records and they destroyed all of the records after the committee was abandoned because those records were great for us.

01:42:09.120 Now, can you imagine if Republicans did that?

01:42:11.380 Everybody would have been in jail by now.

01:42:14.940 Think of that.

01:42:15.740 The unselect.

01:42:16.500 I call it the unselect.

01:42:17.460 They call it select committee.

01:42:18.280 I call it the unselect committee of thugs.

01:42:21.000 They meet.

01:42:22.200 It's 100 percent Democrat and two past Republicans that are no longer Republicans that are no longer in business anymore.

01:42:29.000 Thank you.

01:42:30.280 But it was all Democrats and two wayward Republicans.

01:42:35.540 Liz Cheney and crying Adam Kinzinger.

01:42:39.680 He cries every time he goes on television.

01:42:41.600 He's the most emotional human being I think I've ever seen.

01:42:44.780 And that was our representatives.

01:42:47.400 These two people were our rep.

01:42:49.940 So they had all this stuff that they're leaking.

01:42:51.840 Does cry a lot.

01:42:52.440 And then when it came time to look at the records, like where the police said and the Capitol Guard said that I supplied.

01:43:02.560 Think of it.

01:43:03.220 That I recommended as many soldiers or National Guard as you want, 10,000.

01:43:13.340 If you had 500, you wouldn't have had a problem.

01:43:15.540 There wouldn't have been a J6.

01:43:16.660 But Nancy Pelosi and the group didn't want it.

01:43:18.360 Anyway, so they have testimony to all of that, that I did not attack the Secret Service agent in the front of a car.

01:43:25.640 You know, these are strong people.

01:43:27.100 And I supposedly went to the driver and I grabbed him around the neck and he rebuffed me.

01:43:35.840 And then I went to the other guy who I think is a black belt in karate.

01:43:39.400 And he's slightly younger than me.

01:43:42.000 Maybe 35 years, 40 years, 50 years.

01:43:44.540 And I grabbed him around the neck and said, he's a black belt in karate.

01:43:48.900 They know how to get somebody from around their neck.

01:43:52.600 They would have gone like this and that would be the end of that.

01:43:56.320 Actually, I had a friend that said, you shouldn't dispute that.

01:43:59.820 That makes you look like the toughest cookie we've ever seen.

01:44:02.880 You should have let that go on.

01:44:04.700 But the fact is, it never happened.

01:44:06.420 It was all made up.

01:44:07.980 And that was proven to be made up.

01:44:10.200 It proved to be a false story.

01:44:12.620 And they deleted.

01:44:13.640 So I'm torn.

01:44:14.580 I mean, we're looking at the historical first conviction of a president.

01:44:19.740 But with all due respect, he's now just going into past grievances.

01:44:23.060 I don't know if we should keep it going or.

01:44:26.140 Because I'm like, this is the first time a president's ever been convicted.

01:44:28.100 He's addressing it directly.

01:44:29.180 He should be wearing an Omni suit.

01:44:30.680 Did you make one of those yet?

01:44:32.160 He should have been wearing an Omni hat.

01:44:34.480 It's crazy.

01:44:35.340 What do you think when you see this?

01:44:36.940 Like, what do you think about this guy?

01:44:38.400 I just think free Julian Assange.

01:44:40.640 Because this is another cyclical moment.

01:44:42.880 Where he shouldn't have had a trial.

01:44:45.260 That's what he's saying at the base of this.

01:44:48.200 And it's true.

01:44:49.340 Like, Julian's also in a kangaroo court having a trial.

01:44:52.720 That shouldn't happen.

01:44:53.820 Right.

01:44:54.140 And he should have pardoned him.

01:44:55.680 And his government wasn't the best to him.

01:44:56.940 And he didn't.

01:44:57.800 And now he's going through the same thing.

01:44:59.660 And that's how things work.

01:45:01.040 Well, he should have arrested these people.

01:45:03.060 He shouldn't have hired a lot of these people.

01:45:05.020 And I think he underestimated exactly the lengths they were willing to go to stop him.

01:45:08.560 It's just another example of him collaborating with bad people.

01:45:12.060 Like, he was with Pompeo, who was horrible.

01:45:14.700 His CIA was bad to Assange.

01:45:16.960 Yeah, but see, so decisions are very important.

01:45:21.680 Because they come back or they create a chain of events, you know, which will come back to you in some other way.

01:45:29.040 So, in that sense, yeah.

01:45:32.420 Yeah.

01:45:32.880 It's like he made that decision to ignore that point, you know.

01:45:41.200 And he made a choice for the country.

01:45:44.060 And, like, he's with Pompeo's.

01:45:45.800 I asked him, is he going to pardon Julian Assange?

01:45:48.400 He said they're giving it very real consideration.

01:45:51.160 I think they might.

01:45:52.320 I think they want something from him.

01:45:53.900 I think so, too.

01:45:54.460 But I don't think he can just come outright and say yes on something as big as that.

01:46:00.080 Everyone wants him to, but he can't.

01:46:01.300 What was your takeaway from talking to him, him telling you he was going to address Assange at that speech that we were at?

01:46:07.480 And he didn't.

01:46:07.920 And then he didn't.

01:46:08.520 He talked about Russ Albrecht.

01:46:09.980 Right.

01:46:10.460 Do you think he confused him, or do you think he just decided not to write it up?

01:46:13.380 No, I think he intended to talk about Assange, but I think someone wrote him a script.

01:46:17.560 And then he stayed on prompter.

01:46:19.140 Yeah, he just read the teleprompter.

01:46:20.420 It was a mistake.

01:46:20.880 I mean, so we should jump back to the press.

01:46:24.600 I don't want to take away from this.

01:46:25.640 I mean, it's really tough because, you know, we're trying to, with this show, we want to have a longer conversation.

01:46:31.040 It's a historical event.

01:46:32.860 Omni just launched today.

01:46:35.140 Trump's getting arrested.

01:46:36.240 Trump's getting arrested.

01:46:37.580 Like, this is a crazy show.

01:46:40.180 We didn't even think it was going to be like this.

01:46:41.880 I thought I was going to come and talk about fashion, but here we are.

01:46:45.300 Yeah, I don't know if there's ever been a moment like this, so we'll jump back to his presser.

01:46:49.500 I said, what's going on?

01:46:51.920 It looks like they're building an army right in our country.

01:46:55.160 Now, I don't think that would happen, right?

01:46:59.120 We're losing our country.

01:47:01.500 And I really think that this is an event, what took place yesterday with this judge.

01:47:06.840 Look, we have conflicted, but he's a crooked judge.

01:47:11.220 And you'll understand that.

01:47:12.600 And I say that knowing that it's very dangerous for me to say that, and I don't mind.

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01:49:07.540 So we will continue the fight.

01:49:11.080 We're going to make America great again.

01:49:13.400 Very simple.

01:49:14.760 When people fight MAGA, they say, we're going to fight.

01:49:17.580 I watch Biden.

01:49:18.200 We're going to fight MAGA.

01:49:19.200 We're going to stop MAGA.

01:49:20.400 It's make America great again.

01:49:22.760 That's all it is.

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01:49:24.700 Make America great again.

01:49:26.900 Our country's in serious trouble.

01:49:29.320 We owe $36 trillion.

01:49:31.360 We were going to be.

01:49:34.040 We were energy independent for the first time ever.

01:49:36.940 And now we're begging Venezuela for oil.

01:49:39.200 One statistic you have to hear.

01:49:41.760 Venezuela was crime ridden.

01:49:43.740 Caracas, their cities.

01:49:45.560 Crime ridden.

01:49:47.020 Two years ago.

01:49:48.140 Three years ago.

01:49:49.700 They just reported a 72% drop in crime in the last year.

01:49:55.320 Because all of their criminals, most of them, and the rest are coming in now.

01:49:59.400 The ones that didn't come in.

01:50:03.280 In Venezuela, their prisons have been emptied into the United States.

01:50:08.820 Their criminals and drug dealers have been taken out of the cities and brought into the United States.

01:50:15.240 And that's true with many other countries.

01:50:18.240 The Congo has just released a lot of people from jail.

01:50:20.840 Congo, Africa, just released a lot of people.

01:50:24.720 A lot of people from their prisons and jails and brought them into the United States of America.

01:50:33.520 This is what's happening to our country.

01:50:35.880 I mean, that's what they're trying to do to Julian.

01:50:38.300 Anyone.

01:50:39.500 Little things like our kids can't have a Little League game anymore because you have tents and you have migrants living on the fields.

01:50:47.120 That's the least of it.

01:50:49.240 People are taking over our luxury hotels, migrants.

01:50:52.320 And yet our veterans, our great veterans, are living on the streets like dogs.

01:51:01.260 They're living on the streets.

01:51:02.680 But migrants are living in luxury hotels in cities all over our country run by Democrats.

01:51:10.040 So, it's my honor to be doing this.

01:51:13.580 It really is.

01:51:14.220 It's a very unpleasant thing, to be honest.

01:51:17.840 But it's a great, great honor.

01:51:19.820 We're going to do what I have to do.

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01:51:25.080 That's why I mentioned the number of $39 million.

01:51:27.420 That's why I mentioned we're up six points.

01:51:30.300 And we went up a lot over the last month because everybody saw it was a rigged deal.

01:51:34.000 It was a rigged trial.

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01:51:41.280 November 5th.

01:51:42.320 Remember, November 5th is the most important day in the history of our country.

01:51:48.680 Thank you very much.

01:51:49.480 Remember, remember the 5th of November.

01:51:51.460 That's a crazy day for this to call, isn't it?

01:51:54.380 The Guy Fawkes Day.

01:51:56.320 That's crazy.

01:51:56.900 Leave a vendetta.

01:51:58.220 So, I'll just say real quick, you know, I do apologize for jumping in in the middle of Trump.

01:52:02.220 I just want to clarify.

01:52:03.040 He said a lot.

01:52:04.000 I mean, you've got an immigrant right here.

01:52:05.880 How do you feel when he talks about immigration compared to what happened to you as an actual refugee?

01:52:10.340 I mean, because it's everybody's political, like, talking point, you know, in America right now.

01:52:16.080 But, like, it's, it's, um, this is also why I'm counseled by the left sometimes.

01:52:25.820 It's because, not sometimes, but have been the last few years, because they're like, you're supposed to be having the immigrants back.

01:52:33.820 And, you know, I, I applied to get this visa in a legit way.

01:52:39.140 Right.

01:52:39.360 I had, like, four lawyers, like, did everything I could to get in the right way, and I couldn't.

01:52:45.000 Yeah.

01:52:45.460 Right.

01:52:46.400 You could have just went to the border.

01:52:47.920 And so you're for...

01:52:48.460 Like, everybody was saying, why don't you just go to the border and walk over?

01:52:51.300 Right.

01:52:52.440 And then, you know...

01:52:54.020 Because you're MIA, because you're too famous.

01:52:56.240 Yeah.

01:52:56.640 They would just put me in jail, and then I'd never be able to see my kid.

01:53:00.080 Yeah.

01:53:01.280 But, you know, and Elon Musk is making a big thing about it, and everybody's making a big thing.

01:53:05.120 And then, obviously, on the Biden side, they are letting all these immigrants in, but I couldn't get a visa.

01:53:12.540 Right.

01:53:12.880 You know?

01:53:13.580 So I was in this really, like, weird situation with American immigration.

01:53:19.940 And in the end, I met someone who randomly knew the Clintons.

01:53:28.700 Uh-oh.

01:53:29.300 Mm-hmm.

01:53:30.540 And I got a call from the Clinton office, one of their assistants, and he listened to my problem.

01:53:41.800 And then they got Biden to expedite the visa.

01:53:46.540 Wow.

01:53:47.180 They were like, how can we use MIA?

01:53:49.200 Yeah.

01:53:49.520 So then I was supposed to come on podcasts and be like, look, maybe there's a silver lining.

01:53:55.060 Right.

01:53:55.840 Another advert for Omni.

01:53:57.240 Literally.

01:53:57.520 There's no silver lining.

01:53:58.360 Anyway, she's evil.

01:54:00.100 But that's good that they got you.

01:54:01.260 But then I went to Julian Assange the week after, and I said, you're never going to believe this.

01:54:06.320 It's like a miracle.

01:54:07.500 I got my visa approved within one week.

01:54:10.860 Right.

01:54:11.400 After hiring four lawyers and trying for, you know, 10 months or whatever.

01:54:15.660 I got it in a week.

01:54:17.260 Wow.

01:54:18.060 Because I got a call from the Clinton office, and I said, maybe they're human.

01:54:23.820 You know, like, maybe they understand, like, that there's certain things.

01:54:31.760 You know, like, I was trying to see my son as a mother.

01:54:34.500 I appreciate the positive spin.

01:54:36.080 But all I see is them saying, how can we manipulate someone with a large voice to maybe say something nice about us?

01:54:42.620 Well, that's what he said.

01:54:43.860 Right.

01:54:44.120 He was like, maybe they gave it to you because you're supposed to start saying nice things about them.

01:54:48.260 You don't have to.

01:54:49.160 And I was like, I was so confused.

01:54:52.900 I was like, wow, I believe in miracles.

01:54:55.020 You know, and I was like, maybe you are going to be free after all.

01:54:57.880 And you, he will be free.

01:54:59.480 And you should say how-

01:55:00.220 I think he's going to be released.

01:55:01.560 How long were you not allowed in the States?

01:55:04.560 I was out from June to April.

01:55:09.020 So maybe like nine, 10 months.

01:55:10.740 Okay.

01:55:11.120 Something.

01:55:11.560 When they took the visa away.

01:55:12.800 I actually built it into my logo.

01:55:15.520 The visa?

01:55:16.620 So the logo of Romney is like, it's like a sentence, you know, and it's like, these are all months I spent outside.

01:55:25.420 Oh, wow.

01:55:25.800 Yeah, and that's where it comes from, and it's also, OMS is how you measure electricity, but I tried to turn it into the months it took for me to make this brand.

01:55:37.900 Wow, that's cool.

01:55:38.880 It's the months I spent outside of the U.S. trying to get a visa.

01:55:42.020 Wow.

01:55:42.680 I also say, though, you as an immigrant, when you left Sri Lanka, you were leaving-

01:55:48.240 I was a refugee.

01:55:49.500 Yeah, you were a refugee.

01:55:50.280 First of all, there's the difference between refugees and immigrants.

01:55:53.240 Right.

01:55:53.620 Tell people what you were, like, what were you leaving?

01:55:56.620 It was crazy.

01:55:57.180 I was in a war zone, but I was in an extra bit of war zone because my father was the leader of a group called Eros.

01:56:05.400 And they, when they found that out, I drew, we were, my family was like a magnet, even though we didn't see him, we were a magnet for the government.

01:56:15.980 So wherever we went, the government would turn up in trucks and arrest every guy between the age of like 15 to 40.

01:56:23.560 Wow.

01:56:23.840 And beat them up and torture them and put them in jail.

01:56:26.720 So no village wanted us.

01:56:29.040 You know, we were like, we had the plague or something.

01:56:31.920 And everyone would be like, please don't come here, please don't come here.

01:56:35.420 And we would just sort of, in the end, the town put all their jewelry together and bought us the plane ticket, you know.

01:56:45.200 Wow.

01:56:45.480 Because we didn't even have money to buy food and stuff and people would not really, we were very, like, ostracized and stuff.

01:56:55.380 And my dad didn't know any of this because he couldn't even come near us because we'd be dead if he did.

01:57:01.940 And so we lived like that and, you know, we lived in hiding and stuff like that.

01:57:08.680 And we got refugee status and we came.

01:57:12.800 Were you there for the Black July in 83?

01:57:15.480 Yeah, I was there in 83.

01:57:17.040 That's when, I mean, there were just mass graves.

01:57:20.160 Yeah, and all of my family, all the men were arrested and everyone was being tortured all the time.

01:57:26.420 It was a common thing.

01:57:27.600 And I'd already seen so many, like, dead people by the time I was 10.

01:57:33.880 And it was like, I don't know, at that time, I was thinking about this the other day, like, when you're talking about,

01:57:43.620 you know, I did a show in Bakersfield last week and everyone's on this weird drug, you know.

01:57:52.480 What, the crocodile or?

01:57:54.360 I don't know what it is.

01:57:55.480 It's the Trank thing.

01:57:56.280 Oh, you're talking about, like, the weight loss drug?

01:57:58.260 No, no, no.

01:57:58.760 You know, the one where that makes you, like, bend over and walk like a zombie.

01:58:02.000 Like, loads of people are on drugs just walking around like zombies, you know.

01:58:05.600 And I was like, wow.

01:58:08.200 Like, by the time I was 10, I'd seen so many people dead, right, and killed by the government on the way out,

01:58:15.680 trying to make it out from Sri Lanka out to the airport in the capital, which was Colombo.

01:58:23.000 That journey alone took us, like, three, four months.

01:58:26.400 Really?

01:58:26.800 You know, which, in hindsight, if you look on Google Maps, it would take, like, three days to walk or something.

01:58:32.180 I don't know.

01:58:32.940 But for us to get out in the 80s, it took, because buses would just be stopped on the way and burnt and bombed, you know.

01:58:40.840 Like, there were just dead people everywhere on that route.

01:58:44.000 But it took us months to get there.

01:58:46.180 And then I'd never seen a drug addict in my life, you know.

01:58:50.680 Until I got to Colombo, that was the first time I saw one.

01:58:53.480 And I found that more shocking than seeing dead people burn out in buses and stuff.

01:59:00.240 Because that's the world you inherited, was mass death.

01:59:03.320 Yeah, so it was kind of weird.

01:59:04.680 I was thinking that about my brain.

01:59:06.340 I was like, wow, I'm more triggered when I see somebody walking like a zombie on drugs than seeing someone shot in their head.

01:59:15.580 Were you aware at that young age that the government was perpetrating the genocide?

01:59:20.720 Oh, yeah.

01:59:20.940 Because that was clear when you were there at that age.

01:59:23.480 Because, you know, it was just, I think the tigers weren't like a big thing then.

01:59:31.360 And my dad's movement was very, like, intellectual.

01:59:35.140 They weren't, like, violent in that sense.

01:59:39.220 They were very smart and it was full of students.

01:59:41.980 And it was generally like an intellectual thing.

01:59:45.140 They were very booky.

01:59:46.260 And I'd lived in India.

01:59:50.920 Right.

01:59:51.520 And EROS were being trained by the Indian government at the time.

01:59:58.260 Right.

01:59:58.440 And my dad would be, like, known because he studied in Russia, which is, like, triggering for Americans right now.

02:00:08.340 But my dad went to Russia because Yuri Gagarin went to space and came back and decided he wanted to advocate for world peace.

02:00:19.400 And the first place he came to was Sri Lanka, which also has the Adam's Peak, when you look it up.

02:00:27.180 Adam's Peak, which is a biblical thing, is in Sri Lanka.

02:00:30.560 We don't know why.

02:00:31.880 I don't know that yet.

02:00:32.980 So, anyway, he comes and advocates for world peace and he set up scientific industries.

02:00:42.900 Yeah.

02:00:43.160 So, they decided to get people into engineering and do production and things like that.

02:00:49.840 And they were going to school people into becoming engineers.

02:00:52.960 And my dad got chosen as, like, a kid at 16 to study space engineering or something.

02:01:01.820 And, yeah, he went on the first commercial flight that was launched between Sri Lanka to Moscow at 16.

02:01:10.500 And he chose a university in his school thinking it was Paris, thinking he's going to France.

02:01:21.940 But it was Patrice.

02:01:24.840 And it was the Congolese president who was assassinated by the CIA.

02:01:30.080 Wow.

02:01:30.520 Or the opposition party of the Congolese government at the time were backed by the CIA.

02:01:38.080 Wow.

02:01:39.120 And so, Russia built a university named after him and opened this first university to teach people.

02:01:45.980 Wow.

02:01:46.420 Yeah.

02:01:46.780 And it was a mad, like, chain of events.

02:01:50.060 So, my dad accidentally ended up in Moscow.

02:01:52.180 Right.

02:01:53.140 And.

02:01:54.240 Accidentally ended up in Moscow.

02:01:55.680 That's a crazy.

02:01:56.420 Yeah, he accidentally ended up in Moscow.

02:01:59.380 And then, because he read the thing as a 16-year-old, he was like, yeah, France is going to be amazing.

02:02:06.020 And ended up in Russia.

02:02:08.380 And then he trained in engineering.

02:02:11.960 And then, so he made weapons when he joined the revolution.

02:02:16.920 Because he, he's the only one who had an engineering background.

02:02:21.540 And half of his movement was killed by the tigers.

02:02:26.860 Wow.

02:02:27.300 Because there was internal fighting.

02:02:30.060 And so, in India, they were hiding and everything because they were also hiding from the tigers because the tigers were just coming up.

02:02:37.080 And, yeah, then Black July happened.

02:02:41.160 And, you know, this is the thing about the revolution.

02:02:44.700 There's always internal fighting and everybody knows.

02:02:48.340 And it's like things are not so clear cut, you know.

02:02:53.960 And the Tamil Tigers became the face of it.

02:02:56.320 And they did something which brought them into the bracket of they were labeled terrorists by, I think, Canada and America first.

02:03:07.080 And once they were branded as that, you know, it's very difficult to do anything.

02:03:13.020 And regardless of, I don't know, trying to liberate the Tamils themselves and, you know, regardless of what the outcome were, everyone just sees it as we are defeating terrorism, you know.

02:03:32.520 It's weird that it's been like 40 years, right?

02:03:36.960 The struggle.

02:03:37.440 Yeah.

02:03:38.020 And I believe the government has tried.

02:03:42.240 They put out a report called Mass Graves and Failed Exhumations.

02:03:46.940 So they're kind of looking into it.

02:03:49.540 I don't want to say they're taking accountability.

02:03:51.440 But they've done something.

02:03:52.340 But it hasn't turned out well from what I've seen from, like, family members who believe they've got people in those mass graves.

02:03:58.480 It's weird.

02:03:58.840 Like, has there been any country to say, hey, this is a genocide?

02:04:01.520 Because we hear about Rwanda a lot.

02:04:03.580 Obviously, now we're talking about Israel and Gaza a lot.

02:04:06.720 We talk about the Red Guard.

02:04:08.560 It sort of falls between the cracks because, like I said, I guess it's because it was the first year of smartphones and, you know, the government was filming the genocide and putting it on YouTube and bragging about it.

02:04:23.360 Because you can, when you're fighting terrorism, you can be like, look at all these terrorists we're killing.

02:04:28.540 And they were killing loads of civilians.

02:04:31.420 You know, they pushed 450,000 people onto a strip of beach and bombed them.

02:04:36.920 And 450,000 people did not belong to the Tigers, you know.

02:04:43.620 And the argument was some of them are the Tigers, maybe 15,000 soldiers or something.

02:04:52.140 I don't know what the last days, you know, the amount of soldiers who were part of the Tigers, what the numbers were exactly.

02:05:01.740 But 450,000 people were bombed on that strip of beach.

02:05:07.100 And I think in the end they took in about, I don't know what the number is, but into the camps maybe.

02:05:16.900 They said they took in all 450,000 people, but it wasn't true, you know.

02:05:21.340 And then from the camps they removed generations of people that they thought might come up and rise up again.

02:05:30.480 So they removed all the 15 to 45-year-olds and killed them, you know.

02:05:35.780 They're all unaccounted for.

02:05:38.780 And ironically, you know, everyone goes down as MIA.

02:05:42.800 And it's like you had, you know, on video you have them assassinating the 12-year-old son of the leader, Prabharan.

02:05:54.000 Which is like the saddest thing to watch, you know.

02:05:59.140 And all of the labels they used against the Tigers to label them a terrorist organization was that they were using child soldiers.

02:06:11.620 Yet during the end of that war, they were just massacring children.

02:06:17.220 You know, like when they do it, it's fine.

02:06:20.220 Yeah, it's like Obama, you know, droning the 16-year-old boy.

02:06:23.920 Yes.

02:06:24.280 And so this, like, hypocrisy is just actually just hatred.

02:06:30.020 Were you told when you hit up, like, the upper echelons of pop culture and you started talking out about this stuff?

02:06:35.360 Were there people behind the scenes being like, you should stop talking about this?

02:06:40.000 Yeah, of course.

02:06:40.640 It wasn't cool then to be an activist.

02:06:42.440 And everyone saw it as, yes, why are you concerned?

02:06:46.120 Music is, music can be a very spiritual thing, you know.

02:06:52.320 And it shouldn't concern itself with social problems is what I was told.

02:06:57.120 And then I was like, well, actually some musicians are social.

02:07:01.160 Like if you take John Lennon or Bob Dylan, if you remove the social out of it, they're nothing.

02:07:05.860 System of a Down.

02:07:06.940 Yeah, so I was like, you know, that's not a thing, which is why I think the name kind of made sense later on.

02:07:14.100 I wonder why that is.

02:07:15.560 Like some bands, particularly System of a Down, seem to completely get away with the activism.

02:07:20.840 One of their music videos is just international protests against the Iraq war.

02:07:24.480 A bunch of their songs are outright.

02:07:27.020 I mean, I think most of them, outright activist declarations, totally acceptable.

02:07:32.260 Rage Against the Machine, totally acceptable in every way.

02:07:35.520 Maybe because Rage Against the Machine was always raging on behalf of the machine.

02:07:40.680 Rage always wore the red star of communism.

02:07:42.900 They're always Marxist chumps, although I love their music.

02:07:46.440 But System is different for some reason because they talk more about like the prison system and maybe things that we could more people could do.

02:07:52.640 Well, now we can't do it.

02:07:54.780 It's not even a choice.

02:07:55.480 Some are.

02:07:56.340 Some are.

02:07:57.140 I mean, System's still huge.

02:07:59.060 They're like one of the biggest bands in the world.

02:08:00.240 They're also weird because their drummer is, from what I know, a Trump guy.

02:08:03.300 Yeah.

02:08:03.740 And Serge, the singer, is definitely not a Trump guy.

02:08:06.300 He's not a Trump guy?

02:08:07.240 Serge is not, from last I heard, not a Trump guy.

02:08:09.780 That's unfortunate.

02:08:10.440 They're great.

02:08:11.260 Oh, yeah.

02:08:11.540 I still love them.

02:08:12.300 They're great.

02:08:12.920 Well, I mean, I'll put it this way.

02:08:14.060 You don't have to be a Trump guy for sure.

02:08:15.640 I'm just saying my assumption is he's an anti-Trump guy.

02:08:17.920 Right.

02:08:18.120 And then there's artists, and you can agree or not agree, that I believe you've done it authentically because you do it even though you get hate for it.

02:08:27.560 And then there's other artists who co-opt it, and they do it, like, I'll say Beyonce or Jay-Z.

02:08:34.840 I don't know how you feel about that.

02:08:36.200 I'm not going to go there.

02:08:37.480 You don't have to go there, but I think, well, other than him being-

02:08:39.660 You can go there.

02:08:40.420 I'll go there.

02:08:40.940 Other than him being overrated, I think Beyonce takes things from other people.

02:08:44.840 Yeah, she became a billionaire off the back of that.

02:08:47.960 That's all I'm going to say.

02:08:49.240 Off the back of what?

02:08:51.100 Activism.

02:08:51.620 Right, because she's not really.

02:08:53.260 They just pretend to be.

02:08:54.480 I think Serge is an RFK guy.

02:08:56.560 Well, that makes sense.

02:08:57.120 I accept it.

02:08:58.520 That makes sense.

02:08:58.980 I'm totally fine.

02:08:59.700 I'm like, okay, good.

02:09:00.780 That makes sense.

02:09:02.120 RFK became, the RFK to me became, like, the easy choice for people who want to be rebellious.

02:09:09.580 No, but he does make sense.

02:09:11.300 I love a lot of what he says.

02:09:12.600 And also, RFK has got this wake of dead Kennedys behind him.

02:09:20.580 There's actually a band called the Dead Kennedys.

02:09:22.740 Oh, of course.

02:09:23.380 Hearing that the great band.

02:09:25.180 Yeah.

02:09:25.400 The drummer of systems is a Trump guy, apparently.

02:09:28.720 From what I've heard.

02:09:29.480 And assuming he's still friends with Serge.

02:09:31.480 Yeah.

02:09:31.660 Then Serge is, okay, all I'm worried about is Trump derangements.

02:09:34.900 No, this is the interesting, even Trump said it.

02:09:37.160 It's about if you want to truly make America great again, and you have to believe in the

02:09:42.300 Constitution and all that, RFK does have very amazing historical knowledge, you know, from

02:09:49.680 a personal perspective of that.

02:09:52.020 Like, if you really want to redefine that, he's got the knowledge to do that.

02:10:01.140 A lot of the Trump supporters are attacking RFK, saying he's a nut job and all that stuff.

02:10:05.100 And I'm like, I kind of feel like Trump should have a cabinet position for RFK Jr.

02:10:11.720 Because, you know, we interviewed him, and it's very obvious RFK's core issue, the reason

02:10:17.060 why he's running, is toxic environmental pollutants and things like this.

02:10:20.660 Yeah, but Trump doesn't care about any of those things.

02:10:22.580 It's true.

02:10:23.320 And that's why there's a lot of people who wouldn't vote for Trump.

02:10:26.700 But if Trump says, you know, look, let's say in a few months, RFK is clearly out of the

02:10:30.800 running or whatever.

02:10:31.700 Trump goes to RFK and says, environmental cabinet level position, then I think a lot of

02:10:37.420 people would be like, okay, totally.

02:10:40.220 By the time my dad left politics, his last thing was that he wrote a massive theory on

02:10:45.220 how there should be a central government with all parties, you know, for it to work.

02:10:51.740 And 25 years ago, my dad said to me, you know, this idea of democracy, when every individual

02:11:02.360 on the planet, like this thing that everyone's fighting so hard for, you know, if every individual

02:11:08.840 on the planet is given a say, there will be chaos.

02:11:11.980 And I was like, what's he talking about?

02:11:13.900 You know, in between me watching some random soaps or whatever, and it's just like, he's

02:11:18.220 talking in the corner and you're like, what is he talking about?

02:11:21.160 But fast forward, you know, 30 years or whatever, here I am.

02:11:25.180 And it's true.

02:11:26.140 If every single person and every single platform and every TikTok and every Instagram and every

02:11:31.520 everything and every Twitter has got a say, there is chaos.

02:11:36.480 Okay.

02:11:36.740 And right now we're living through that.

02:11:39.060 And not one party is going to be perfect for satisfying all of these voices.

02:11:46.340 And maybe eventually my dad's right about that too, that there would be a party that involves

02:11:53.360 all of these party representatives that then can cater to every voice.

02:11:58.200 I don't, I don't know that it's possible.

02:12:00.200 Right now?

02:12:00.800 No.

02:12:01.380 But just not even outside of like right now.

02:12:03.400 This is what we're talking about.

02:12:04.540 Like RFK, um, he saddles between Democrats and Republicans in this sense.

02:12:12.960 But there's an overlap enough to where when RFK comes out and says plastics, like, so we've

02:12:18.440 got the glass bottles that I mentioned.

02:12:19.820 It's like, we have plastic water bottles here.

02:12:21.600 Some people don't care.

02:12:22.200 But we also have the filtered glass, filtered water and glass bottles recycled better for

02:12:26.940 the environment.

02:12:27.600 No plastics in your body.

02:12:29.060 There's an overlap there.

02:12:30.060 The Trump administration could say like, we want to put you as a health advisor.

02:12:34.360 And so you can talk about plastics and chemicals and forever chemicals and microplastics, all

02:12:38.760 that stuff.

02:12:39.480 And people are going to, are going to people on the right will absolutely support it.

02:12:42.540 But there are some like, there's no, there's no position for Joe Biden in the Trump

02:12:46.020 administration.

02:12:46.420 Right.

02:12:47.200 Joe, Joe Biden is the antithesis.

02:12:49.540 If Trump were to win and then say, I want to give the, you know, Hillary Clinton a shot,

02:12:53.940 people would absolutely not.

02:12:56.340 She represents nothing that could benefit this country.

02:12:59.200 But there are people who would march in lockstep behind Hillary Clinton.

02:13:03.540 I got to be honest.

02:13:05.040 I kind of feel like the only people who are supporting Biden and Democrats are people who

02:13:09.300 have no idea what's going on.

02:13:10.680 And the people who are supporting Trump are a mix of some who don't really know and some

02:13:14.580 who know too much.

02:13:15.620 I would say that if they do know what's going on, they like that.

02:13:18.060 They like the destruction.

02:13:19.860 Right.

02:13:20.460 Right.

02:13:20.860 I agree with that.

02:13:21.800 They're nihilists.

02:13:22.220 This, this is a, this has been a very interesting episode of the culture war considering, so

02:13:26.760 I want to stress this.

02:13:27.840 I mean, yes, I am coming from culture and you have the president is almost like a rapper

02:13:34.620 right now.

02:13:35.760 Getting arrested.

02:13:36.100 Okay.

02:13:36.400 So he's, he's hilarious.

02:13:39.000 But there are people saying like, what, what is this?

02:13:41.840 Look, we did not know that Donald Trump would give a historic press conference after he

02:13:46.380 was found guilty when we were setting up a conversation around, you know, Julian Assange,

02:13:50.940 MIA's work, uh, immigration, silver and all this stuff.

02:13:54.540 Because, you know, Trump is saying, Hey, I want to move manufacturing to the United States

02:13:59.760 and da, da, da, da, da.

02:14:01.760 Tate BlackRock, who are basically whoever, the World Bank, who now took post-war in Sri Lanka,

02:14:09.140 all of the gold reserves from Sri Lanka, and I guess silver too.

02:14:15.920 Uh, so during the economic crash, they took it and now it's in the World Bank.

02:14:22.040 Right.

02:14:22.620 Yep.

02:14:23.580 And this reserve is not then utilized in the United States of America to make this fabric.

02:14:30.220 I have to go to China to get it.

02:14:32.040 Wow.

02:14:32.560 Yes.

02:14:32.960 Well, it's exclusive to Chinese factories.

02:14:35.800 And so you can be like, Oh, why does, why do you produce in China?

02:14:40.200 I have to, because even though America's holding all the metals and the precious metal

02:14:45.420 reserves, like BlackRock, they're not using it.

02:14:48.860 You know, it's really fascinating.

02:14:49.940 Um, you know, the old, uh, song, make new friends, but keep the old one is silver.

02:14:54.440 The other is gold for all the people watching your old friend, the golden haired president.

02:14:58.520 And now we have the silver clothed.

02:15:01.140 Yes.

02:15:01.780 Right.

02:15:02.060 And so there we go.

02:15:02.760 But, but we're going to, we're going to, we're going to wind.

02:15:04.660 We're going to start winding things down.

02:15:06.120 I just wanted to stress that, you know, uh, you know, normally this show is about just

02:15:10.940 talking about deep cultural issues.

02:15:13.380 But when you have a press conference from a president, I feel like you can't not play

02:15:17.180 it.

02:15:17.380 So I just want to make sure everybody understands, you know, how the format of the show went,

02:15:21.560 but, uh, subscribe to tenant media, smash the like button.

02:15:25.060 Maya, also known as MIA.

02:15:26.460 Is there anything else you want to shout out?

02:15:27.520 You've got Omni.

02:15:28.140 Is there anything else you wanted to say before we wrap up?

02:15:30.700 Oh, I don't know.

02:15:31.480 It's a lot to say.

02:15:32.640 Uh, no, I think that's it.

02:15:34.040 Omni's come out today.

02:15:35.420 It went live today.

02:15:36.500 Thank you for having me.

02:15:37.820 Would you go on Alex Jones's show?

02:15:39.740 I would actually.

02:15:41.140 I would.

02:15:41.600 I would go on Joe Rogan and Alex Jones's show because you know why?

02:15:45.520 He owes me.

02:15:46.940 He owes me.

02:15:48.000 Because I think it would be interesting to talk to Alex Jones about this stuff because

02:15:54.160 I think he's talked about it.

02:15:55.500 I think he'd buy a bunch of it.

02:15:56.620 He also loves music.

02:15:58.320 He's a huge music nerd.

02:16:00.580 And pop.

02:16:00.780 You know, I didn't know anything about him until the media blew it up and went, why is

02:16:06.240 Alex Jones?

02:16:06.320 That's what they do.

02:16:07.460 They Barbra Streisand affect everything.

02:16:09.540 So it kind of backfires on them.

02:16:10.720 So then I was like, I have to get to know who he is.

02:16:12.920 And then by the time I found him and started like looking at what he does, he was already

02:16:18.380 off air.

02:16:19.420 Like they'd already taken him off.

02:16:21.880 Well, he's been, he's been doing it just on his own and he's kind of a little harder

02:16:26.220 to find.

02:16:26.960 So the website is O-H-M-N-I, omni.com.

02:16:32.220 It's up.

02:16:33.360 And, uh.

02:16:33.680 OMS is, OMS is, George OMS is a German guy who meant it resistance.

02:16:41.420 That electricity has a resistance.

02:16:44.140 That's awesome.

02:16:44.860 Yeah.

02:16:45.160 And so it's named after him.

02:16:46.720 Right on.

02:16:47.320 Thank you so much for, for hanging out with us.

02:16:49.380 Thank you.

02:16:50.200 Absolutely.

02:16:50.540 Shane, did you want to mention anything before we go?

02:16:51.920 That was awesome.

02:16:52.700 We're going to hit up Alex Jones right after this.

02:16:54.380 We are.

02:16:55.260 That's definitely happening.

02:16:56.400 That's why I asked him.

02:16:57.340 Like I'm going to text him.

02:16:58.020 I can't wait.

02:16:58.500 Well, they call me a tinfoil hatter and I have the tinfoil hat.

02:17:02.640 And I think, you know.

02:17:03.820 Like the best tinfoil hats.

02:17:04.940 The next step is for us to make the beanie that Tim is wearing.

02:17:08.620 Perfect.

02:17:09.240 And yeah.

02:17:10.040 I want some too.

02:17:11.220 And yeah, you can find me online at Shane Cashman.

02:17:13.220 I got Inverted World Live on Sundays at 6 p.m. Eastern.

02:17:16.840 This Sunday I have Ian Carroll coming on and talking about a lot of crazy stuff.

02:17:20.300 So join us there.

02:17:20.980 Fun show.

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02:17:23.220 All right, everybody.

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The Culture War - Tim Pool

The Culture War #66 Deep State Corruption, Trump Conviction Press Conference w⧸M.I.A & Shane Cashman

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