The Culture War - Tim Pool - August 02, 2024


The Culture War #75 The Deadly Alliance Of Communism And Islam, COMMUNISLAM wâ§žApostate Prophet, Ben Weingarten, & Tayler Hansen


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2 hours and 20 minutes

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Misogynist Sentences

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Summary

In this episode, we talk about the progressive alliance between the left and the Islamic right, and why it s a good thing. We're joined by Rifvan Aydemir, an Apostate Prophet, Ben Weingarten of the Federalist, and Taylor Hansen of Tenet Media to discuss the growing alliance between Progressives and Muslims, and their attempts to unify in the face of growing anti-Americanism and anti-Westernism. We also talk about why Progressives like Ilhan Omar have been able to find common ground with the far-left, and what it means for the future of the Democratic Party and the country as a whole, and how they can work together to achieve their goals in the long-term. Guests: Ritvaan Aydemanir Taylor Hansen Ben Wissingarten What's the deal with Progressives, Marxists, and Progressives? And why do they all get along so well? Thanks to our sponsor, BetmGM Casino. BetMGM Casino, the king of online gaming, for sponsoring this episode. Get ready for Las Vegas-style action at your fingertips with the same Vegas Strip excitement MGM is famous for when you play classics like MGM Grand, Blackjack, Baccarat, and Roulette with your favorite casino games like Blackjack and Blackjack. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, please contact Connects Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of free of charge. to speak with an advisor FREE of charge free to you! to help you get the best gaming experience in your area. . Betmovers, and GameSense, BetmoGMGMGM, the King of the gaming industry. - Betmo GMG & GameSense - of the gambling industry, betmGM ! & Betmo MGM - BetMeGM Casino - . . . BetmeGM Casino & GameSensitories . Betmo & Gambling Ontario, Betmorgan Casino - $519+ to wager Ontario, $5,000 to Wager Ontario only, $10,000, $20,000 + $50,000 (and $25,000+ to Wagers Ontario only). Please play responsibly! Bet MeGM, I'm betting responsibly.


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00:00:57.060 I just want to say, in before the left takes commune Islam seriously.
00:01:02.920 I put in the title of this video, it's supposed to be, it's a half joke, it's a reference to our good friends
00:01:06.940 over at Rap News from oh so long ago.
00:01:09.560 But there is an interesting question pertaining to woke left, neo-Marxists and communists,
00:01:16.920 for some reason aligning with conservative Islam.
00:01:21.480 And there have been a bunch of funny circumstances, particularly in the UK.
00:01:25.040 This was several years ago.
00:01:26.180 You had LGBTQ activists showing up at a protest where fundamentalist Muslims in full,
00:01:35.600 like niqab and garb, were protesting LGBTQ education.
00:01:39.140 And the activists were telling them that they were in this together.
00:01:43.240 And the conservative religious people were like, no, we are not.
00:01:45.960 You're degenerates.
00:01:47.200 And so the question is, how does something like this happen?
00:01:49.240 Where does this merger come from?
00:01:50.600 And it may actually just be, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
00:01:53.640 Perhaps it's an anti-Western, anti-Christian thing.
00:01:56.160 But I don't think it's universal.
00:01:57.620 I do think there is a strange power dynamics at play.
00:02:00.120 So we're going to talk about this today.
00:02:01.080 We've got a couple of guests.
00:02:02.120 And we'll start here.
00:02:02.740 So do you want to introduce yourself?
00:02:04.060 Yeah, I'm Ritvan Aydemir.
00:02:05.560 People know me as Apostate Prophet, where I have a YouTube channel by that name, for
00:02:11.100 those who don't know it.
00:02:12.620 I'm a former Muslim.
00:02:16.200 Just pull that microphone up to your...
00:02:17.480 Okay, yeah.
00:02:17.720 There you go.
00:02:18.200 I'm a former Muslim.
00:02:19.500 I talk about Islam a lot, criticize Islam and its history and its beliefs and different
00:02:24.440 aspects.
00:02:25.760 Yeah, that's what I do.
00:02:26.940 All right, Alan.
00:02:27.460 We've got another guest over here.
00:02:28.820 Yep, Ben Weingarten.
00:02:30.140 I'm an editor-at-large at Real Clear Investigations.
00:02:33.200 Right for the Federalist, New York Post and a slew of other outlets.
00:02:38.360 I wrote a book four years ago on this very subject titled American Ingrit, Ilhan Omar and
00:02:44.580 the Progressive Islamist Takeover of the Democratic Party.
00:02:49.080 And so I think it sort of anticipated this topic of this kind of marriage of convenience,
00:02:54.440 this unholy marriage of convenience between people whose worldviews on their face would
00:03:00.360 seem to be antithetical and incompatible, but who work together to topple the common
00:03:06.940 stumbling block, which is basically us.
00:03:09.020 Right on.
00:03:09.420 And Taylor Hansen's here.
00:03:10.720 Yep.
00:03:11.060 Tenet Media, a field reporter.
00:03:12.620 I document, you know, all things breaking news and culturally relevant topics and decay,
00:03:18.100 essentially.
00:03:18.440 And I thought it would be good to have you here because you've actually talked to a lot
00:03:21.400 of these activists and protesters on the ground from these ideologies.
00:03:24.200 And so I'll just kick it off with, I have to wonder, you know, there's a, in Shepherdstown,
00:03:30.400 West Virginia, which is not too far away from here, there's like two churches within walking
00:03:33.960 distance, like two blocks.
00:03:35.140 And they've got the progress pride flags on them.
00:03:39.020 And some of the locals were telling me like, oh yeah, those places are packed.
00:03:41.860 Absolutely packed.
00:03:42.440 And I'm like, Christians and Marxists like together.
00:03:45.920 But it's also just the pride flag.
00:03:48.880 It seems a bit contradictory.
00:03:50.560 So I have to wonder when I hear about the, like Ilhan Omar, you mentioned, you know, she's
00:03:54.680 progressive and she's left.
00:03:55.800 Is she actually holding those views?
00:03:58.620 Is she, is she, she's Muslim.
00:04:01.340 She is.
00:04:02.220 And I'm, I have to wonder if, are the progressives trying to destroy Islam?
00:04:09.260 I mean, think about it.
00:04:10.120 They're, they're bringing about these, you know, Queers for Palestine movement.
00:04:14.380 They've got the pride flag there in America.
00:04:17.060 They are trying to make the two concepts inseparable, which I think would be extremely
00:04:22.200 offensive.
00:04:23.120 It probably is to Muslims in other parts of the world.
00:04:26.120 Yet here we are actually, you know, good examples.
00:04:28.420 There was that, I can't remember what TV show it was, a big controversy several years ago,
00:04:30.940 where there was a Muslim woman who was gay and she's in the show saying like, oh, I'm
00:04:34.740 gay and I'm a Muslim.
00:04:35.320 And then the Muslim community got really mad saying, how dare you?
00:04:39.700 Are people like Ilhan Omar, is this an attempt to actually just damage and destroy Islam?
00:04:44.120 Well, one of the things that I would say before we talk about, I guess, probably more of the
00:04:47.680 theological aspect of this is when I wrote that book, I went to Ilhan Omar's district
00:04:52.280 and talked to people on the ground.
00:04:54.320 And the ironic thing is that the demographics that carried her to victory were the student
00:05:00.360 population and essentially the white native progressive population and the upper crust members
00:05:07.920 of her district.
00:05:09.220 If you actually look at the Somali community where she comes from and there's a massive
00:05:13.020 Somali immigrant population in the Twin Cities area, they're very divided about her.
00:05:19.060 And there are reasons for this that go back to, you know, sort of like the clannish or tribal
00:05:23.980 sort of more basic tensions that exist.
00:05:26.700 But it's also because a wide percentage consider her to be blasphemous.
00:05:30.960 Essentially, she's dancing in the gay pride parade.
00:05:34.360 She's adopting the full spectrum panoply of views that would get you killed on the streets
00:05:42.540 of some of some Mogadishu or any number of other Muslim countries.
00:05:46.860 For me, the thing that crystallized it was in the district, they have these towers that
00:05:52.720 are essentially sort of like projects there where the vast majority of Somali immigrants,
00:05:57.260 that's their first stop when they get into the Twin Cities area.
00:05:59.600 Then right next to it, you have these gentrified, modern apartment buildings, luxurious ones.
00:06:06.680 And on the streets there in the Somali community, the heart of it, you have college students
00:06:11.720 who are dressed in basically nothing.
00:06:13.100 And then you have women fully covered, coexisting.
00:06:16.440 And coexisting is the key word because that's all it is side by side.
00:06:20.560 And I think ultimately some percentage of the populace is able to set aside her blasphemous
00:06:27.000 beliefs and say, but we're working towards a common cause, which is ultimately power.
00:06:32.340 And then at the end of the day, they have to duke it out to see who wins.
00:06:35.700 And the last point I'd make is just when I was at Columbia University, I saw Israel Apartheid
00:06:41.140 Week every single year.
00:06:42.360 And if you look at who the groups were that sponsored it, it was a progressive student groups
00:06:46.780 and it was the Muslim student groups.
00:06:48.240 They work hand in hand because they have a common adversary.
00:06:52.680 And that is sort of the traditional Western civilization proponents.
00:06:56.760 So we figured out it's Israel.
00:06:58.400 The thing that unites these two groups is Israel.
00:07:01.380 One of the Jews.
00:07:01.800 And Jew hatred.
00:07:02.300 It is, yes.
00:07:03.000 Right.
00:07:03.120 There is actually, it goes much further than those divisions.
00:07:08.540 He just mentioned Ilhan Omar during a pride parade.
00:07:11.920 So there was this moment where she was, there was a video of her going around where she dances
00:07:17.500 at a pride parade.
00:07:18.540 She shared a message of how, you know, we need to further the rights of the LGBTQ plus community
00:07:25.060 and so on.
00:07:26.360 Whenever these things happen, but especially at that time, there was a major outcry among
00:07:31.380 Islamists, among many regular Muslims.
00:07:34.820 I have many of those posts saved where certain well-known Islamist figures said things like,
00:07:41.300 she is not a Muslim.
00:07:43.340 We should not call her a Muslim anymore.
00:07:45.720 We should not accept her as part of the community anymore.
00:07:48.220 You have lots of Somalians going around saying, she's not one of us.
00:07:53.360 She has become something different, whatever.
00:07:56.940 I asked the question yesterday, who actually likes her?
00:07:59.560 It's hard to tell because she is thought to be a Muslim, thought to be an Islamist.
00:08:05.540 And on the right, there is generally often this idea that she is a full-fledged Islamist
00:08:10.540 infiltrator who simply pretends to be progressive for certain goals.
00:08:14.100 But then her behavior and the things that she says don't align with Islamism at all.
00:08:19.520 She would be punished in the Islamic world.
00:08:21.360 It was interesting what you were saying, Ben, because you said in her district, it's actually
00:08:24.340 the affluent white female liberals type who are propping her up.
00:08:28.660 Don't say cat ladies.
00:08:29.740 No, not cat ladies.
00:08:30.700 But the assumption is that she wins because the Somali migrants are voting her in.
00:08:35.640 But that's not the case?
00:08:36.640 Not the case.
00:08:37.340 It's not a big enough population probably to fully swing it, though.
00:08:40.480 You need the backing of the Somali population to win.
00:08:44.260 But some of her biggest supporters, and especially when she initially started getting scrutiny
00:08:49.440 over it, were basically the liberal Jews in her district, were imperative to get them
00:08:54.980 on board to try and win.
00:08:56.740 And of course, she kind of figuratively stabbed them in the back almost immediately when she
00:09:00.480 got into power.
00:09:02.320 But yeah, among her own people, she's a divisive figure.
00:09:06.600 She has a history of, well, there is one thing that needs to be said.
00:09:14.180 It's quite obvious.
00:09:15.060 People just don't want to acknowledge it.
00:09:16.280 People who come from a Muslim background, from an Islamist background, it is extremely
00:09:20.980 common for those people to be severely anti-Semitic on such a level that it would be nauseating
00:09:26.280 for regular people in the West to hear.
00:09:28.920 What they say out in public is not even close to what you actually hear when you are part
00:09:35.680 of the community.
00:09:37.340 So she is one of those people who has publicly said one or two things that are indicative
00:09:42.820 of that, such as that, you know, all for the Benjamins, certain references to money and
00:09:50.220 power influence of Jews and all that.
00:09:52.660 I would say that she tones it down a little bit in order to appeal to a wider audience and
00:10:00.520 to have progressives and liberals and others generally on her side.
00:10:03.880 But the whole anti-Semitism aspect should not be a surprise.
00:10:07.660 So it's surprising.
00:10:08.680 It's kind of, it's annoying, but also, I don't know, it's sad to me that certain liberal
00:10:15.860 Jews actually end up supporting people like her.
00:10:19.200 They should know from the very beginning that this is going to backfire.
00:10:22.800 I totally get why Muslims don't like Jews and Muslims don't like Israel.
00:10:28.320 Oh boy, there's a lot there.
00:10:29.240 But why progressives?
00:10:31.180 Like, why are progressives so anti-Jew and anti-Israel?
00:10:34.520 Like, you can make the argument about Israel being a colonizer or whatever, and that's maybe
00:10:37.780 what they're saying.
00:10:38.620 I don't think it answers all the questions, but why Jews?
00:10:42.140 There is a thing.
00:10:43.520 So among the progressives, there is generally the view that we should be standing up for
00:10:48.520 minorities, for those who are different, for those who are, you know, of a different color,
00:10:53.080 those who are marginalized.
00:10:54.020 After 9-11, it was generally directed toward Muslims as a reaction to the right, having
00:11:02.280 a stronger or negative reaction toward Muslims.
00:11:05.660 However, when it comes to Jews, there is this completely twisted perspective among Western
00:11:11.740 leftists that Jews are not really a minority in the real sense because they seemingly look
00:11:19.520 white.
00:11:20.120 They pass white.
00:11:20.980 They are part of the stronger, dominant culture.
00:11:23.940 So they're basically like Christians, which is why we can talk trash about them as much
00:11:27.520 as we want and also oppose them as much as we want.
00:11:29.820 And they buy very much into this whole narrative often presented by Islamists that Jews or that
00:11:35.920 Zionists are colonizers and oppressors.
00:11:39.880 And to them, they just say Zionists when the Islamists say Jews.
00:11:44.160 I have a, I had a, I would say, I guess I have a friend.
00:11:46.960 I haven't seen them in years because as politics, you get crazier, but they are fairly lefty.
00:11:50.580 And this is out in California.
00:11:52.720 And she had a painting at her house of, it was like the Obama poster of like Hope, but
00:11:57.660 it was a Muslim woman.
00:11:59.460 And I forgot what it said on it.
00:12:00.600 But I was just like, oh, that's interesting.
00:12:01.960 And she's Jewish.
00:12:02.820 And she's got like her grandma's like, there's like pictures of her when she was young and
00:12:07.760 there's Holocaust stuff.
00:12:09.060 And it's like, she has like a curia cabinet.
00:12:11.040 And I asked her, I was like, how come you have like the Muslim thing?
00:12:14.620 No, no beef.
00:12:15.640 I don't know.
00:12:15.880 I'm just curious because you're Jewish.
00:12:17.880 And then she said something about the oppression of Muslims in this country or whatever.
00:12:22.440 And I was like, you think that they're like oppressed?
00:12:24.340 And then I was like, do you know how many Muslims, how many, I said, do you know how many Christians
00:12:28.420 there are in the world?
00:12:29.700 Do you guys know how many Christians there are in the world?
00:12:33.040 I don't remember the number.
00:12:34.180 2.3 billion.
00:12:36.540 Close to 3 billion.
00:12:37.260 Yeah.
00:12:37.620 And how many nations have at the state level a declaration of Christianity?
00:12:43.720 Very few.
00:12:44.440 Very few.
00:12:45.120 Very few.
00:12:45.640 But there are many countries that are a predominantly Christian body and have some governmental doctrine
00:12:52.000 of Christianity.
00:12:53.520 How many Muslims are there in the world?
00:12:54.700 Do you guys know that?
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00:14:22.560 How many?
00:14:23.940 Close to 2 billion right now.
00:14:25.660 Yeah, like 1.8 I think it might be.
00:14:27.380 I could be wrong.
00:14:27.840 It's been a long time.
00:14:28.640 And how many nations are at the government level, theocratically or in their doctrine,
00:14:33.900 Muslim?
00:14:34.440 I think it's over 50.
00:14:35.580 Yeah, there are close to 50.
00:14:36.780 Oh, I see.
00:14:37.040 Dozens.
00:14:37.720 And that's, despite not being as big as Christianity, that is probably the most for any religion
00:14:42.220 on the planet.
00:14:42.960 And so I said this to her and then I was like, do you know how many Jews there are in the
00:14:46.280 world?
00:14:47.160 And then there's the question of like full ethnic Jews or just people of Jewish, yeah,
00:14:51.820 well, whatever argument you want to make, it's like, what is it like six or seven million
00:14:56.160 full Jews?
00:14:57.280 And then maybe like 11 or something in the diaspora of like.
00:14:59.600 We're talking under 20 million.
00:15:01.000 Oh, absolutely.
00:15:01.740 And then I said, and how many Jewish countries are there?
00:15:04.420 And then she got mad and she like won.
00:15:06.920 And I was like, kind of because you've got the Gaza conflict and the questions from the
00:15:11.620 progressives as to whether or not it actually exists.
00:15:14.740 And then I was just like, I'm not here to defend Israel or Jews or anything.
00:15:17.940 I'm genuinely curious why a Jewish woman who has all this, like this, this history and
00:15:22.840 stuff from their families who have fled in World War II would be this progressive pro
00:15:28.340 Islam, despite all of these Islamic countries wanting to destroy Israel.
00:15:31.700 And again, it's not a defense of Israel.
00:15:33.040 It's the political position.
00:15:34.480 And that kind of put up like a light bulb in her head.
00:15:37.320 And then she immediately started getting more aggressive on defense of Israel and Jews.
00:15:41.560 And that's what I find interesting about the progressive American Jewish person.
00:15:46.040 Do they not think about this or does it not matter?
00:15:49.600 Because if they're to support the fundamentalist religion, and I got no, I want to stress,
00:15:58.860 I got no problem with religions.
00:16:01.320 It's the fundamentalism and the war driven by or whatever.
00:16:05.620 If, you know, if there's an American Jew and they're voting for a policy that results
00:16:09.700 in the destruction of Israel, I don't understand what their motives are.
00:16:13.840 I don't understand, are they not concerned about this?
00:16:16.660 You know, you see Hasidic Jews marching with the leftists, and they're saying things like,
00:16:21.320 you know, and the occupation, and Zionism.
00:16:24.760 And the question then becomes like, well, what of the Jewish people without Israel?
00:16:28.880 Are you just a diasporic population at that point that becomes kind of an afterthought,
00:16:34.760 kind of just like a background to your history in whatever country you're in, or what?
00:16:38.800 There's so much to unpack there, but a few facts to establish.
00:16:44.000 You mentioned Christians.
00:16:45.400 Christians are, Christianity is the largest group in the world, but Christians are actually,
00:16:50.760 looking at the statistics, the most oppressed religious group in the world.
00:16:54.760 And this is very, very hard to accept for leftists in America.
00:16:59.980 There is a stereotype in the world, especially in Europe about Americans, which is that Americans
00:17:03.920 don't know much about the rest of the world.
00:17:05.380 But in one sense, that is true.
00:17:08.100 In America, leftists and others have this very, very myopic, this very America-centered
00:17:14.260 perspective on things.
00:17:16.720 And they don't realize that, yes, in America, Christians seem to be quite dominant, and Muslims
00:17:22.780 seem to be this minority that doesn't have it quite as well.
00:17:27.120 In the rest of the world, it's not quite like that.
00:17:28.920 In the Muslim world, Muslims absolutely rule over everything.
00:17:32.720 People who question Islam, who criticize Islam, who want to spread a different religion are
00:17:37.780 oppressed.
00:17:38.660 Christians are very much oppressed in the Muslim world.
00:17:41.900 Muslims have a lot of power in the Muslim world, throughout the Muslim world, and also
00:17:45.880 in neighboring cultures like Europe, for example.
00:17:48.940 Jews have the fortune, the luck now to have the opportunity to have their own nation and
00:17:56.900 to protect themselves, even there, they are not allowed by the Muslim populations and by
00:18:03.660 the Islamic powers to do that.
00:18:06.460 Just the idea that they should have independence, that they should be able to protect themselves
00:18:10.740 is something that is unacceptable.
00:18:12.340 I talked recently to a scholar, Dr. Einat Wilf, she's a very well-known historian on this
00:18:18.180 issue of the history of Israel.
00:18:20.580 She pointed out something very profound, actually, and very accurate, which is in the history
00:18:27.900 of Islam, Jews were seen as a minority that can live, that is allowed to live, as long as
00:18:36.160 they do whatever we tell them to do.
00:18:37.860 And if they misbehave, then we will just put them in their place.
00:18:41.220 Now that Israel is there, Jews are no longer in that position, they are no longer the subjects,
00:18:45.880 they are now free, and the Islamic world cannot accept that.
00:18:49.220 But to the Western person, that is very difficult to see.
00:18:52.800 There is something I need to share about the Muslim perspective, about Islamic beliefs.
00:18:58.420 And yes, you might respect religious beliefs, I respect the religious beliefs or the belief
00:19:03.960 in a God in and of itself.
00:19:05.120 However, Islam has very big problems, and one of those problems is that Islam is a religion
00:19:10.160 which, according to authenticated narrations, the prophet Muhammad, and this is believed
00:19:17.640 to be totally true by most Muslims around the world, the prophet Muhammad made a prophecy
00:19:21.780 where he said, before the day of judgment comes, you Muslims will fight the Jews and you
00:19:28.620 will kill them, and they will hide behind rocks and trees.
00:19:31.760 And even the rocks and trees will say, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him, except
00:19:37.040 for one certain tree, which is called the Gargat tree.
00:19:39.940 That tree will not say, because that tree is one of them.
00:19:43.860 And this is something that Muslims around the world believe, this is something that I learned
00:19:47.040 when I was a little child, and people will not stop believing this.
00:19:50.320 And this was in the Hamas charter, I think, until only a few years ago.
00:19:52.980 Yes, it was.
00:19:53.880 It was in the 1988 charter.
00:19:57.080 They made a new charter in 2017 to supposedly put a new spin and a new face on.
00:20:02.500 But most of those who know the history of Hamas are not really deceived by that.
00:20:07.480 Hamas is still like that, and they still repeat those dreams of eradicating the Jews one day.
00:20:13.100 And real quick, the line was, the last hour won't come before the Muslims would fight the
00:20:18.160 Jews and the Muslims would kill them.
00:20:20.120 So Jews would hide behind rocks and trees, then the rocks and trees would call, O Muslim,
00:20:24.040 O servant of God, there is a Jew behind me.
00:20:26.540 And to the Islamic supremacists, maybe the truest believers in their own eyes, they would
00:20:33.260 say that the objective is for Islam to be spread across the entirety of the world.
00:20:37.580 And it's either through persuasion or it's through compulsion.
00:20:42.740 And to your point about the allowance of non-Muslims in Islamic societies, you have to pay the
00:20:49.700 tax if you're the non-Muslim, and you live as a second or third class citizen, a demi in
00:20:55.160 one of those countries.
00:20:56.000 Now, of course, the Arab world particularly turned hundreds of thousands of Jews into refugees
00:21:02.000 during the 20th century.
00:21:03.960 They fled to a variety of places, including to Israel.
00:21:06.300 The reason there are no Jews in any of those countries is because they were forced out of
00:21:08.960 all those countries.
00:21:10.020 No reparations demands, obviously, from those who fled.
00:21:13.680 So there's a New Jersey-sized state there, which has been the Jews' ancestral homeland
00:21:17.760 since time immemorial, where there's been a constant presence.
00:21:21.180 But the neighbors surrounding them cannot tolerate that, to your point.
00:21:24.200 They can't tolerate Jews living in their own homeland in a place that was basically ancillary.
00:21:28.040 Well, they conquered it.
00:21:29.420 Right.
00:21:30.080 Yeah.
00:21:30.300 It was fascinating.
00:21:31.380 I was having a conversation with someone, and this wasn't a progressive.
00:21:37.380 I can't remember who.
00:21:37.880 It was an anti-war libertarian, but I don't want to get the name wrong.
00:21:41.400 And they were saying the issue is that after World War II, basically, the colonial powers
00:21:46.620 decide they're going to establish the state, and they take the land, and that the people
00:21:50.300 who lived there are the ancestral indigenous who have always lived there.
00:21:54.940 And they were Muslim then, and these were the people who used to be Jewish, and I was like,
00:21:59.480 whoa, whoa, hold on.
00:22:00.760 The argument that was given to me, and I'm not trying to make this a universal argument
00:22:04.220 for everybody who's critical of Israel, is that the British Empire in the United States
00:22:09.220 were trying to find a way to deal with what was going on in Nazi Germany, and wanted to
00:22:15.400 establish a homeland for the Jews.
00:22:17.260 The Jews wanted to do it as well.
00:22:18.320 Many of them were already there.
00:22:19.200 And so the problem with it is the war led to the ousting of the indigenous who had lived
00:22:23.880 there the whole time by the diasporic.
00:22:27.120 The issue I take with it is, I'm like, so Muslims come to Israel, force the Jews to convert
00:22:34.200 by threat of death.
00:22:35.780 That's what I was told.
00:22:37.600 And they did.
00:22:39.080 And now they're there.
00:22:40.600 And so when Jews who were forced out refusing to convert return and win a war and take the
00:22:46.660 land, that's wrong.
00:22:47.620 But the first one wasn't.
00:22:48.440 I don't understand this argument that the land was historically theirs when we're talking
00:22:53.600 about is eons of conflict that started with an invasion of this land.
00:23:00.260 And we're also, I would just say, for the sort of table setting, it wasn't that World
00:23:06.360 War II caused the creation of Israel.
00:23:08.740 I mean, you can go back to the Balfour Declaration, you can go back to other documents in international
00:23:12.360 law, and then the biblical and the ancestral ties.
00:23:15.620 But then even the narrative of the Nakba, which the Arab world, you know, calls a catastrophe
00:23:21.100 when Israel, modern Israel is established.
00:23:25.100 If you look at contemporary accounts, including from Arab accounts, the Jews did not force the
00:23:31.780 Muslims out of Israel.
00:23:32.900 In fact, it was the surrounding Muslim countries who said, leave Israel right after this state
00:23:38.560 is formally established.
00:23:39.640 We are going to attack.
00:23:41.340 And Israel was at war immediately from the modern founding.
00:23:45.960 And let me just say one more thing, because we didn't really get to the whole, like, how
00:23:49.760 do you explain that Jews support policies that lead to potentially a second Holocaust?
00:23:53.600 For, as a resident Jew here who will speak and try to give the, you know, the psychoanalysis
00:24:00.980 of this, for liberal left-wing progressive Jews, and it's really the less religious a Jew
00:24:09.220 is and the more secularized typically, it correlates with more progressive.
00:24:13.880 For them, the religion of Judaism is equivalent to social justice and progressivism.
00:24:21.640 They read in the Jewish texts, to the extent they read them, leftism.
00:24:26.880 And that our job, tikkun olam is this concept of leave the world a better place.
00:24:31.160 And they read that as progressivism.
00:24:34.080 That is the solution.
00:24:35.520 So for them, they're equivalent.
00:24:37.540 And so they can see it as, look, Jews, we are the oppressors and we're the colonizers,
00:24:42.700 et cetera.
00:24:43.280 And so this is sort of getting our just comeuppance.
00:24:45.540 Like, we cause the Islamic world to hate us and want to destroy Israel.
00:24:49.260 However, if you notice the religious Jews, and you mentioned the Hasidic Jews who go
00:24:54.960 out there and are like the useful idiots for them, it's a very small sect of them that
00:24:59.420 go out there and do that.
00:25:00.500 The more religious you get in terms of Jews, Orthodox Jewry, infinitely more conservative
00:25:05.640 those populations are.
00:25:07.180 And I think that the Democrat Party has made the calculation.
00:25:09.420 We can, we can go after Israel.
00:25:12.200 We can bash Israel.
00:25:13.020 We can bash Jewry, essentially.
00:25:14.500 And we can say that Josh Shapiro can't be a vice presidential candidate because he's Jewish.
00:25:17.720 That one's funny.
00:25:18.740 Because the leftist Jews are going to stick with us forever.
00:25:23.580 And we will never get the Orthodox Jews, who, by the way, are the growing population, while
00:25:27.880 the left-wing Jews are the declining population.
00:25:29.700 Well, I'm glad that he had mentioned the fact that they almost see it as social justice.
00:25:33.640 Because I've done interviews on the ground with literally a Jewish organizer with PSL,
00:25:37.900 which is a national socialist group that organizes these mass demonstrations all around the country.
00:25:42.780 And I asked him, and I was like, okay, you know, where does this alliance really come from?
00:25:46.880 I said, because, you know, you have the queers for Palestine, this movement.
00:25:50.780 That's the movement that I mentioned.
00:25:51.780 He says, well, when you look at it from a broader spectrum, it's all one struggle.
00:25:56.540 Well, we're all essentially, you know, discriminated against.
00:25:59.700 We are the small guys.
00:26:00.400 We are the minorities.
00:26:01.140 And that's really how a lot of these organizers see it.
00:26:04.140 And then I went on the other side and talked to a Muslim organizer, and he said pretty much
00:26:08.060 the same thing.
00:26:08.720 But he says, it's a necessary alliance in order to, you know, basically destroy colonialism,
00:26:13.660 which we have seen with, you know, what they say the Nakba was, and then the trans issues
00:26:18.700 and everything in the United States.
00:26:19.740 They see that we are basically occupiers.
00:26:22.200 So that's really like where it ultimately goes in the team up there, is they all see it
00:26:26.660 as social justice issues.
00:26:27.900 You know, whether it's in the Middle East or here in America, and the ultimate goal
00:26:32.220 of it is a revolution of some sort.
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00:28:01.160 Sort in the end.
00:28:02.220 So you look at the history.
00:28:05.020 I do want to talk about the Josh Shapiro thing in a minute, but I was talking about before
00:28:08.020 the show, I watched this video about the jihad versus the crusades.
00:28:10.980 And the jihad was over, what, a thousand years.
00:28:14.740 Islam conquered all of North Africa.
00:28:16.840 Australia started spreading into Europe from both from the south and from the east.
00:28:21.720 And then the crusades were only a couple of battles in response to the constant warring.
00:28:27.860 And you can see that, as we also mentioned, what, you said 50?
00:28:31.820 I actually don't know the number of countries that are fundamentalist Islam that at the government
00:28:36.600 level are theocratic, but it is a lot.
00:28:39.440 And I was talking to some friends the other day, and they had traveled to, it might have
00:28:45.880 been, I remember which, it was Dubai maybe or Qatar or something.
00:28:49.700 But they were like, you know, fundamentalist Islamic country.
00:28:52.660 And they said they were walking down the street, and they saw like a jewelry store, and there
00:28:56.960 were these beautiful gold, chain, silver, diamond, platinum, just sitting out, and there
00:29:01.320 were no security guards, like walking by an open market with fruit, but this time it was
00:29:04.880 gold.
00:29:05.780 And she asked them, she's like, don't you need security?
00:29:08.160 And they were like, no, if you steal, we'll cut your hands off.
00:29:10.060 And so it's, yeah, they're not worried about that crime.
00:29:14.040 And I'm curious as to what you guys think about that.
00:29:16.840 Because in San Francisco, in New York, in LA, we have the progressive policies leading
00:29:21.920 to this rampant victimization of people.
00:29:25.140 And then it looks like on the inverse, you can, my friend was saying she walked around,
00:29:31.300 woman, in this country, no problem whatsoever, peaceful, beautiful food, streets were clean,
00:29:37.280 no threats of violence, no crime.
00:29:39.020 What, what, you know, what, I'm curious your thoughts on these, these two, you know, polarized
00:29:43.560 There is a, there is an interesting aspect.
00:29:47.120 These societies are, are societies that have a very extreme form of controlling people's
00:29:53.280 behavior, which may have good aspects and bad aspects, but there is one thing to take
00:29:58.300 into consideration, which is that these cultures are intrinsically not very productive, not very
00:30:04.240 efficient cultures, and they don't really create much.
00:30:09.020 In fact, if you look at all of these oil rich countries in the Middle East, in the Arab
00:30:14.880 world, you will see that the majority of the, of the workforce, the majority of labor is
00:30:19.020 outsourced.
00:30:19.860 People from outside have to come in.
00:30:22.560 People from Europe, people from India and other places have to come in and work for them
00:30:26.240 to get things done because they themselves don't create, they're not creative, they don't work, they don't do much.
00:30:34.100 That is part of that very same culture, which oppresses people and prevents them from acting in every, in any kind of, you know, deviant way, whether you want to regard it as a good thing or as a bad thing.
00:30:46.440 Like communism.
00:30:47.900 Yeah.
00:30:48.200 It's, it's, the hyper-centralization restricts the ability to innovate and expand and, or to, to iterate.
00:30:53.640 Well, and it's a, it's a, if you take the position of the Islamic supremacist, it's a theopolitical ideology that governs every, it's a religious system, but it's also a political system that governs every single aspect of your life, which you can understand would be appealing to some percentage of people.
00:31:11.860 I think, for example, you can look and one of the chief grounds or places where you have converts to Islam is in prisons.
00:31:19.740 Why would that be the case?
00:31:20.860 Besides the fact that the Islamists see that as a population that's worth trying to convert.
00:31:26.180 This provides complete order in your life.
00:31:28.720 Everything you need is right there in the religion to govern every single aspect of your life.
00:31:32.960 This gets to Sharia speech codes, which is the most anti-free speech sort of system that you can impose.
00:31:39.720 This obviously gets to the penalties for stealing and it gets to how you conduct every other aspect of your life as well.
00:31:47.600 And that is analogous to the left.
00:31:50.320 I mean, the left wants to control every institution and then use that to have power over your life.
00:31:55.060 But to what end, they go to different ends and the means to get there are different.
00:32:01.380 And there's one quote to me that brings it together from Yasser Arafat back in 1969, who's sort of, you know, kind of the founding father of Palestinian Arab jihadism.
00:32:13.260 He was heavily influenced and groomed by the KGB at the time because the idea was the Soviet Union would sort of create a petri dish of Jew hatred, Western hatred in the Islamic world and use that to combat the West.
00:32:28.080 So they succeeded. I mean, more or less, you know, we're 50 years on.
00:32:31.840 So this is 1969, a quote from Arafat.
00:32:34.600 Our struggle is part and parcel of every struggle against imperialism, injustice and oppression in the world.
00:32:40.580 It is the part of the world revolution which aims at establishing social justice and liberating mankind.
00:32:46.640 Now, whether or not he thinks that the progressives are useful idiots, and so this is a way to appeal to those idiot Westerners and this is good propaganda, or whether this is what they truly believe, that cements to me and that kind of codifies the unholy red-green alliance that exists today.
00:33:04.040 There is something very useful to remember from history.
00:33:08.960 Ibn Khaldun, he lived in the 14th century. He's considered in sociology, actually, one of the forerunners of sociology.
00:33:16.840 And he wrote a very important book called Muqaddimah.
00:33:22.740 He has a quote in there, which I don't fully remember, but I will paraphrase it.
00:33:28.260 He basically says that Islam is different from all other religions in that it is the only religion where the head of the society and the state and the military is one and the only religion that has the obligation to spread the religion either by will or by force.
00:33:47.700 So, Islam has the obligation to always fight and to always wage war, to always wage jihad and to spread by those means, which is why you mentioned earlier, Islam has a very long history of jihad, of fighting.
00:34:01.780 Islam is the only religion in the world that has a very political, a very authoritarian aspect that still rules over many countries.
00:34:09.940 And this is fundamental to Islam, according to Islamic scholars and Islamic historians and sociologists themselves.
00:34:17.280 And the thing is, when it comes to the alliance between Islam and the left, this is what the left fails to understand.
00:34:26.500 This is what leftists, progressives, socialists generally fail to understand.
00:34:29.920 And there is a very bitter example to look at, which is Iran.
00:34:33.700 In Iran, during the Islamic revolution, which led to the creation of the current Islamic regime, the Islamists succeeded with the revolution, not on their own, but with the help of socialists, of communists, of secularists, liberals, and others who helped them in the hopes that they would together create a democratic state, a democratic government.
00:34:58.220 And they all had their disagreements with the Islamists, they thought, okay, we don't want to live in a theocratic regime, but at least if we, you know, overthrow the Shah and create a democratic society, maybe we will find ways to include our own ideas.
00:35:12.900 The funny thing is, as soon as they succeeded with the revolution and overthrew the Shah and installed a democracy, the Islamists took over and turned it into an Islamic democracy and immediately began persecuting, locking up, banning, and killing all those who helped them, all the leftists who helped them.
00:35:32.900 And this is basically what it leads to eventually, the leftists help the Islamists rise to power, and the first to then be persecuted and to die are the leftists who helped the Islamists.
00:35:44.100 This is exactly literally what's happening here in the States when I'm on the ground.
00:35:48.220 I've literally watched people that are transsexual or gay being converted to Islam at some of these protests, which it's always so crazy to me to see this, because in my mind, it's like, they literally see you as the useful idiots.
00:36:00.220 They're not willing to admit it, but you're always going to be the one that is persecuted if we do, you know, kind of devolve into this theocratic Islamic government.
00:36:08.280 And, I mean, time and time again, it is so odd to see them on the ground together.
00:36:12.620 You see socialist, you know, pamphlets that are sitting there, you know, we stand with Palestine, you know, we stand with our Muslim brothers, and I mean, they're quite literally changing the entirety of the brand because it's the exact same thing that kind of happened with Iran.
00:36:26.220 The leftist groups see it as a way to achieve revolution, and these organizations, you know, the Antifa, BLM, it's the exact same groups that are now intertwining with this Islamic movement in this country, and they're binding themselves to it for the sake of revolution.
00:36:39.840 I'd say for the most part, there are some leftists who think it could help foment revolution, but I think a lot of the alliance on the ground is just because these people buy their own oppression narrative, and they're, it just aligns.
00:36:54.280 Brown people in a non-Muslim majority country are the minority and therefore are oppressed, therefore they're the good guys.
00:37:00.500 Which is funny because white people are literally now the minority, but they will never actually say that or admit to it in this country.
00:37:05.560 Well, not nationally, not yet, but at this rate, very, very soon, much sooner than people realize, mostly because of the mass illegal immigration, which is crazier than we've ever seen.
00:37:17.700 But the funny thing is, it's not just Islam.
00:37:21.760 Historically, notoriously, leftist revolutions, the first thing the revolutionaries do is they kill the leftists because those are the ones who foment revolution.
00:37:32.040 You try to tell this to these progressives, who is the threat to the power structure right now?
00:37:38.740 And they'll say, you know, probably, I don't know, they might, like, white supremacy is the power structure, so it's us, the activists, we're threatening the machine.
00:37:44.740 Okay, let's say you and your buddies win, topple government, and then powerful leftist personalities, millionaires with tons of resources, because you know they exist and they're progressives, take over.
00:37:55.840 However, now, who's the biggest threat to the regime?
00:38:00.260 Still you.
00:38:01.680 And so when authoritarian regimes come in, the first thing they do is they eradicate the revolutionaries.
00:38:07.540 The run-of-the-mill, rank-and-file, normie population that wakes up, goes to the flour mill, and then comes home from work is no threat.
00:38:16.120 They need those people.
00:38:16.980 But listless, lazy, arrogant revolutionary types do nothing for the society and are only a threat to the power structures, so we see it time immemorial.
00:38:26.960 Revolution happens, the leaders go, and they round up all of the people who helped the revolution happen.
00:38:30.840 It's a good point.
00:38:33.240 It's easy to believe, as people often depict it, that these leftists, these crazy leftists in their incredibly stupid alliance are just, are, you know, are pure evil, and they're aiming for some, for the destruction of Western society and all of that.
00:38:51.220 It is more nuanced than that.
00:38:53.300 It is just that these people genuinely think they're doing the right thing.
00:38:58.240 They think that they are genuinely compassionate, and they're pursuing justice by standing up for those, you know, poor oppressed people, poor minorities, and all of that.
00:39:09.640 But it's just so myopic, and it's, again, history repeating itself.
00:39:13.940 And these people, in their pursuit of justice, shooting themselves in the foot, and also harming the rest of us in the process.
00:39:23.620 And you can see this with the current movement of, you know, pro-Palestine, free Palestine.
00:39:29.000 We have people waving Hamas flags and spraying Hamas on monuments.
00:39:34.140 And Hamas is an organization that literally, we talked about, you know, jihad and all that earlier.
00:39:41.100 In English, they are more reserved in their language.
00:39:44.620 Oh, yeah.
00:39:44.980 To appeal to the public.
00:39:46.320 In Arabic, very important, Hamas has a public speaker named Fatih Hamad.
00:39:52.980 He is also in charge of Al-Aqsa TV, which is the national TV of Gaza.
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00:41:24.120 This guy goes out and speaks.
00:41:29.760 Only a few years ago, he gave a speech where he said,
00:41:32.840 in four years, in four years, brothers and sisters, our goal will be accomplished.
00:41:37.760 The first step is to cleanse Palestine of the filth of the Jews.
00:41:42.100 Wow.
00:41:42.640 And the second step is then to establish a caliphate to expand from here.
00:41:48.160 So remove the cancer, he repeats, of Jews,
00:41:50.780 and then to expand the caliphate with the help of the Muslim community.
00:41:54.600 And then after he says that, he speaks English and goes,
00:41:57.780 we just want our ancestral homeland that was taken from us.
00:42:00.960 I'm kidding.
00:42:01.480 He didn't literally say it, but this is the narrative you get from all the activists.
00:42:04.620 So I want to pull this story up real quick from Common Dreams.
00:42:07.660 I have a dream, and that dream is that Kamala Harris chooses Josh Shapiro and the woke left expose themselves
00:42:15.940 because they already basically are, and it causes Kamala to lose the election.
00:42:21.440 Progressives warn against Josh Shapiro as Kamala Harris nears VP choice.
00:42:25.560 They wrote a letter.
00:42:26.780 I think it was 50 organizations signed it.
00:42:28.980 And, gee, I wonder what the problem is.
00:42:33.280 Why are the progressives not happy with Josh Shapiro?
00:42:38.180 I think it's because he's Episcopalian.
00:42:39.760 Oh, that could be it.
00:42:41.840 Maybe it has something to do with his last name?
00:42:43.340 I think it's the glasses.
00:42:44.060 Well, as it turns out, they love to mask their real reasons, but they actually did bring up supporting Israel.
00:42:54.060 Yeah, and they said in their letter that Muslim, Arabic, and young people may turn away from Kamala Harris for supporting a Jewish guy.
00:43:04.480 Okay, they didn't literally say that.
00:43:05.940 They're just like, well, you know, his position on certain issues.
00:43:09.600 But John King on CNN did say he's Jewish.
00:43:14.900 And that's the issue.
00:43:16.100 Yeah, so that was actually fascinating to watch.
00:43:18.940 He said something like, I don't think she'll get enough votes.
00:43:22.440 Like, she might lose a lot of votes from the Democrats because he's Jewish.
00:43:25.900 And while they'll—in the letter, I don't want to mischaracterize it.
00:43:29.060 They're saying his support for Israel in a certain stance.
00:43:31.780 But we all know when the Women's March happened, okay, you guys know the story about the Women's March?
00:43:37.560 And the organizers were saying that the Jews were responsible for this war and the slave trade and started talking about banks.
00:43:45.120 I'm like, these are—these were Black Lives Matter activists.
00:43:49.260 They were organizing the Women's March.
00:43:50.840 And the story was there was this Jewish woman who was involved, and she felt like she was being indoctrinated, like they were trying to teach her so she could understand the problem of the Jews and Israel and all that stuff.
00:44:01.100 So it's no surprise now that, yeah, they're not too happy with the idea of a Shapiro as a vice president.
00:44:07.680 And while they may, in their letters, be like, it's clearly about Israel, I guarantee you, 100%, I'd make a bet.
00:44:13.580 You go to one of these progressive protests, and you walk into this crowd of people that are holding up the Hamas signs and say, if you were to say to them, you don't really care about Israel, it's the Jews, they completely agree.
00:44:25.260 They'd say, 100%, turn the camera on, they might say something different.
00:44:28.160 That being said, I'm sure you've actually met them who have been outright, it's the Jews.
00:44:31.500 Oh, 100%.
00:44:32.160 I mean, literally multiple times I have talked to them, and you're right when it comes to they won't actually say it on camera.
00:44:37.740 Some of them will, it's definitely in the minority, but then they kind of, if you put a camera in their face, and it's always about progressivism, social justice, we have the same goals.
00:44:46.420 But I want to ask you two, your opinion on how you think the DNC is going to unfold if they pick Shapiro, if they tap him in as a VP candidate.
00:44:54.320 Because I already think that there's going to be a small-scale riot there, there's going to be some unrest, just for the sake of, you have the pro-Palestinian group that is going to rally in numbers.
00:45:02.820 They tried suing the DNC because they're upset that they can't protest super close in the boundaries they want to.
00:45:09.080 And the DNC is like, why would we let you guys anywhere near this?
00:45:12.300 You can go protest out here, which I do think it's going to kind of spill over into the actual DNC area and kind of get violent.
00:45:20.340 They're just going to say that this is a confirmation that the Jews, excuse me, the Zionists, control everything.
00:45:28.360 I don't know how they can police their own voter base.
00:45:35.900 There's been reporting for months suggesting that there's going to be massive unrest.
00:45:40.520 If you want the Democrats to lose, then you're hoping for 1968 on steroids.
00:45:45.480 The counter would be that you have a Mayor Daley, which does not exist now in Chicago, actually cracking skulls on the ground.
00:45:52.860 I cannot fathom that happening.
00:45:55.660 It would be the worst imagery possible for them.
00:45:58.000 It goes against everything they believe in.
00:45:59.960 Oh, they'll do it.
00:46:00.880 They don't care.
00:46:02.140 Well, literally in D.C., you know, the park police and everybody that was actually attacked, you know, at the anti-Netanyahu protests that turned into a mini-scale riot.
00:46:10.220 They had orders to basically allow a certain level of vandalism or violence and then not to push back super hard.
00:46:17.160 So we already kind of see this within certain police departments where like we can't have, you know, the cameras on us.
00:46:22.280 We can't do this because this movement is too big.
00:46:24.400 There's a lot of media that's kind of backing this movement up.
00:46:26.960 So it's very interesting.
00:46:28.820 But I think at the D.N.C., you're probably not going to see as lighthearted police officers.
00:46:33.820 I mean, this is Chicago.
00:46:34.920 These guys are ready to rumble.
00:46:36.320 So it's going to be interesting if we start seeing, you know, the cracking of heads and, you know, tear gas deployed whole nine yards.
00:46:42.240 Remember, this kind of started with and probably didn't start with.
00:46:44.660 But one of the inflection points was, I think, in Baltimore, where they said we need to give people space to destroy.
00:46:51.000 Yep.
00:46:51.220 Which is insane.
00:46:52.040 That was the – and it probably started before that.
00:46:54.860 Was that BLM?
00:46:55.760 I think it was like Freddie Gray maybe.
00:46:58.580 Yeah, he's the guy who was given the nickel ride, they call it, where they put him in the back of a wagon.
00:47:03.480 They didn't train him down.
00:47:04.920 They started hitting the brakes and then he broke his neck and died or something.
00:47:08.240 And then they said, yeah, we need to give them space to – I forgot the exact quote.
00:47:12.220 Let me see if I can pull that one up.
00:47:13.320 But basically they're burning down buildings.
00:47:16.940 Yeah.
00:47:17.540 I don't think – one thing to add is if they do tap Josh Shapiro in, my view on the protesters that are going on the ground in mass, I don't see them as voters, honestly, because they realize that both sides are going to be hyper pro-Israel regardless of who gets in.
00:47:33.060 That's kind of where the uniparty, you know, kind of collides is, yeah, you have the exceptions.
00:47:37.080 You have the Rashida Tlaibs, the Ilhan Omars, you know, the Thomas Masseys on the right that kind of come together when it comes to not funding foreign wars, not funding Israel.
00:47:45.620 But the large majority of both sides are going to be hyper-Israel.
00:47:49.120 They're going to have hyper-pro-Israel policies.
00:47:51.140 They're going to give them money.
00:47:52.160 So I can't really see a lot of this, you know, demographic, whether it's the socialist organizations or, you know, the actual Muslims on the ground, picking a side when it comes to who to vote for because it's a lose-lose situation for what they want as their end goal.
00:48:05.040 The problem is that the Democratic Party has just has really turned into a cancer at this point.
00:48:12.460 And even if that is not a serious voter basis, you can see that over the last year, especially the Democratic Party, has very much given in so much to what people say on college campuses, to what they say in the streets.
00:48:27.000 Their public statements, their political moves in international affairs and all of that have been seriously affected by crazy people protesting in the streets, crazy people having a say online.
00:48:43.780 And this is actually a massive problem.
00:48:45.660 So I did pull up the quote.
00:48:47.720 She said, it's a very delicate balancing act because while we try to make sure that they were protected from the cars and other things that were going on, we also gave those who wished to destroy space to do that as well.
00:48:59.460 And we worked very hard to keep that balance and put ourselves in the best position to de-escalate.
00:49:03.600 I want to stress something for everybody.
00:49:05.680 I was there during the riots.
00:49:07.780 I was in Ferguson during the riots.
00:49:12.300 And the most important thing you need to understand about the progressive left, they wrote a story.
00:49:17.420 I'm actually going to pull this one up.
00:49:18.920 It's called In Defense of Looting.
00:49:21.360 And it became a book.
00:49:23.040 It became a book.
00:49:25.460 Here you go.
00:49:27.000 They turned it into a book.
00:49:27.880 In Defense of Looting.
00:49:30.220 So it's about the Ferguson unrest.
00:49:32.160 First, when the rioting was happening, and you had a lot of people on the right criticizing the riots, the left instinctively just said, the right is wrong.
00:49:40.720 Riots are good.
00:49:41.940 The voice of the unheard.
00:49:43.320 Looting is good.
00:49:44.140 And what they said was is that these are people who are rising up against an oppressive capitalist class that is kept from them.
00:49:51.800 And looting is an act of revolution because when they take from these stores what they want, they are telling the capitalist merchant class that they can take those resources which are owed to them.
00:50:02.920 Only problem, these were small local businesses owned by the community.
00:50:07.800 And actually being there in Ferguson, there was one instance where – and Al Jazeera was there too – several young black men linked arms to protect the liquor store, the corner store that kicked everything off.
00:50:21.620 This is where Michael Brown went in, stole the cigarillos.
00:50:24.540 Several young black men linked arms and were standing in front of it.
00:50:27.880 I was up there filming, live streaming, and a reporter from Al Jazeera walked up and asked the young man, what are you doing here?
00:50:34.380 Why are you here?
00:50:35.200 And he said, the people who are looting our homes don't live here.
00:50:38.860 They've come from other cities.
00:50:40.340 They've come from other parts of St. Louis, and they're taking advantage of what happened here to rob our stores.
00:50:45.600 In one instance, a cop – so the street is shut down.
00:50:49.620 People are dancing in the street.
00:50:50.960 There's no real violence.
00:50:52.360 I have no idea why, but a cop walks from the crowd, pulls a flashbang, and chucks it at a group of people.
00:50:57.920 As soon as that bang goes off, a bunch of people run full speed to the stores, smash at all the windows, and steal everything and start running away.
00:51:04.980 Something funny happened when those young men were linking arms to protect that liquor store, which I think was just after this.
00:51:10.860 The guy who was talking's phone rings, and he's like, oh man, it's my mom.
00:51:15.800 And the reporter was like, give me the phone, give me the phone.
00:51:17.500 And he answers it and talks to the guy's mom, and she's like, where is my son?
00:51:21.800 And he's like, he's here on West Florissant.
00:51:23.920 And she's going like, oh my god.
00:51:25.980 And he's like, no, no, ma'am, your son is being very responsible.
00:51:28.600 He's protecting the store.
00:51:30.080 He's being a very good member of the community.
00:51:32.240 I saw that happen, and then I saw this article, and I'm just like, the left is evil.
00:51:38.240 These poor people who live here.
00:51:40.720 What they were saying was, we've got a hair salon.
00:51:43.840 We've got a grocery store.
00:51:45.180 We've got a liquor store.
00:51:45.840 We've got a gas station.
00:51:47.000 These other people have destroyed our community.
00:51:50.120 For what?
00:51:50.820 For what reason?
00:51:51.500 They don't live here.
00:51:52.520 And then the progressives come here.
00:51:55.140 The corporate news media comes here, and they claim the evil people destroying our home are the good guys.
00:51:59.960 We saw this over and over again in 2020.
00:52:02.460 Every single time I was on the ground on a protest that turned full-scale riot, that looting took place, burning took place, assault on police took place.
00:52:09.660 I would say a large majority, if not 90% of the people that actually went and engaged in violence or looting were not even from, let alone the same state, but not the same city that actually this event took place in.
00:52:20.740 So we see it time and time again.
00:52:22.040 And then you've got people like AOC that say, oh, they're actually just looting to provide for their families.
00:52:26.280 But they're robbing Nike stores.
00:52:27.920 They're getting their brand-new Air Jordans.
00:52:30.020 They're going straight to the liquor stores.
00:52:31.680 They're basically cleaning out businesses.
00:52:33.420 And we saw in 2020 where they are literally attacking black-owned businesses and locally-owned businesses.
00:52:40.120 And then they say, oh, they have insurance.
00:52:42.420 And that's the way that they justify this.
00:52:43.960 It's insane.
00:52:44.580 And then you had, in the summer of love, there was a black man who was a firefighter who saved up money to open a bar and grill, his dream.
00:52:52.340 And they went and destroyed it.
00:52:54.760 He's on camera crying.
00:52:56.420 And as they're interviewing him, people are stealing the safe from his store.
00:52:59.560 And he's going like, why?
00:53:01.260 Why did this have as my dream?
00:53:02.540 And then the next day, the activists came back and burned the building to the ground.
00:53:06.660 And his insurance didn't cover it.
00:53:08.560 He ended up getting a bunch of money from a GoFundMe.
00:53:10.220 I hope the guy, I hope everything turned out well for him.
00:53:12.360 But a bunch of these businesses, one of the problems with insurance was that insurance doesn't cover rubble removal.
00:53:19.480 There was something that affected, there's a cap.
00:53:21.240 So they're like, oh, yeah, sure, we will pay to bring you the building back, but we ain't paying to remove the rubble.
00:53:25.640 I would say this is sort of the logical endpoint to where the great society started.
00:53:31.860 And you can look at Thomas Sowell has written about this and others have written about this as well.
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00:55:01.160 All of the trends in black America were positive going back to,
00:55:11.640 if you look at from the 40s into the 60s in terms of, you know, wealth creation,
00:55:16.420 education levels, family dynamic, et cetera.
00:55:19.640 After the Great Society, from that point on, you have the breakdown of the black family,
00:55:24.800 the breakdown of the black community, and all of the policies that were pushed
00:55:28.340 supposedly to help inner city blacks primarily, ended up leading to the destruction of those
00:55:35.460 communities.
00:55:36.160 And now we're at the natural endpoint, which is more policies supposedly to help,
00:55:40.660 which actually lead to the destruction of, at this point, just basic everyday civilization
00:55:45.600 and existence in terms of, you know, criminals can do whatever they want, less than a slap
00:55:49.800 on the wrist.
00:55:50.220 You're back on the street tomorrow.
00:55:51.300 You know, and then all the way to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, we're going to cut a plea deal
00:55:55.380 with you.
00:55:56.860 But if you're a J6 or your life is over, if you're Donald Trump, we're going to conjure
00:56:01.160 up crimes to get you.
00:56:01.860 Well, now look at the final evolution of it is almost like a permanent welfare class.
00:56:05.920 And then it only makes that line of people in an even worse off area.
00:56:09.820 And then you get, you know, the drug issues.
00:56:11.360 They just keep inserting things into this community under the aspect of, you know, reparations
00:56:16.240 for this community or, you know, we're going to social justice issues.
00:56:19.840 And, you know, sidebar, it's worth noting that I'm pretty sure Kamala Harris's husband
00:56:23.900 is Jewish.
00:56:24.720 So this whole thing is interesting.
00:56:26.540 And then she's going to probably tap, you know, Shapiro as her VP.
00:56:30.320 So I would think the Palestinian protesters in this kind of crowd, which is a mass, is
00:56:35.180 going to be in a very weird conflict once they realize what's actually going on within
00:56:39.040 the Democratic Party.
00:56:39.900 I think I think it makes perfect sense.
00:56:41.220 She wants Shapiro for two reasons.
00:56:42.980 Democrats are losing Jewish voters over Israel, and she needs to win Pennsylvania.
00:56:47.460 So she has to choose Shapiro.
00:56:49.600 I'm just wondering, this is their gambit.
00:56:52.380 They could lose progressives, but restore their voting bloc among the Jewish population.
00:56:58.380 The question then becomes, which one is larger?
00:57:00.640 I have to imagine their their cost benefit analysis is young people don't vote.
00:57:05.240 Let them complain all day and night.
00:57:06.580 But we need the older Jewish liberal back.
00:57:09.100 So I was just going to say, I wrote back in 2018.
00:57:12.200 If you look at the trends here, the Muslim population in America is growing and it's expected
00:57:17.580 to double by, I don't know, 2040, 2050, and it's going to vastly outweigh the size of the
00:57:25.880 Jewish population.
00:57:27.060 As I also noted before, the Orthodox Jewish community is not voting Democrat.
00:57:30.920 It's growing and it's never going to vote Democrat at this point.
00:57:33.880 But for the for the liberals, there are going to be some who to the bitter end, liberal Jews
00:57:37.800 are always going to vote Democrat and the others.
00:57:40.100 It's going to become a declining population.
00:57:41.820 So from the purely cost benefit analysis, if you're making a bet on Muslims or Jews for
00:57:46.620 Democrats, you're betting Muslims because you know that some percentage of the Jews are
00:57:50.220 going to stay with you no matter what to the end.
00:57:53.180 Shapiro, and this gets to the bigotry aspect of this, and maybe you maybe you can assume
00:57:57.780 ignorance and good faith.
00:57:58.940 But Shapiro himself has said, and I quote, I personally believe Benjamin Netanyahu is one
00:58:03.000 of the worst leaders of all time.
00:58:04.260 So that's Shapiro's position, but they still hate him.
00:58:06.620 So if that's the case, I think that kind of points to the the asinine nature of it.
00:58:11.300 I I this this narrative is actually quite funny.
00:58:13.340 You know, yesterday, someone super chatted Tim Castile saying, you know, use your money
00:58:17.880 to do good or something like use your power to do good.
00:58:20.140 And I said, what does that mean?
00:58:20.860 Right.
00:58:21.460 Because because typically for progressive activists, what it means to do good is just
00:58:25.380 to force people to live the way they think they should live, regardless of whether
00:58:28.340 or not it's beneficial to mankind.
00:58:29.960 And so my attitude, what I described is we want to find the middle ground somewhere where
00:58:34.220 you've got meritocracy, decentralized power structures, but some power structures that support
00:58:39.540 stability. So you don't want to go full authoritarian.
00:58:41.900 You don't want to go total anarchy.
00:58:43.520 Some people might advocate for anarchy, but I'm not a fan of that somewhere in the middle.
00:58:47.320 You take a look at what the left offers and what they're saying is criminals are going
00:58:52.240 to let out prisons.
00:58:53.720 Criminals will not be criminally charged.
00:58:55.100 Anarcho tyranny.
00:58:55.860 We're going to arrest J6ers like you were mentioning.
00:58:58.180 And then on the other side of that, you have we will chop your hands off if you steal a
00:59:01.580 piece of bread.
00:59:02.180 And so it's the two extreme ends that are restrictive to human growth and expansion.
00:59:06.820 And these two extremes are in the United States, not in the Middle East, but in the United States
00:59:13.840 are fusing to a certain degree.
00:59:17.960 But with that being said, you know, we're talking about these cities falling apart.
00:59:22.120 I'm wondering if Muslims in the United States, actual Muslims actually want to support leftist
00:59:29.060 ideas and are voting for these people.
00:59:30.600 There is a very interesting trend to observe with leftist politics.
00:59:35.580 When you look into the Muslim world, in the Muslim world, leftist politics is hated.
00:59:43.320 In the Muslim world, leftists and Islamists generally hate each other.
00:59:48.020 They despise each other.
00:59:49.480 Leftists generally fight against the Islamic hegemony and the Islamic supremacy and are more
00:59:56.020 pro-West.
00:59:57.180 When it comes to the Western world, however, you see this, the ugly alliance that we are
01:00:02.480 talking about between Islamists and the leftists.
01:00:05.200 And in this case, when Muslims vote left, for example, in the UK, we had some very bizarre
01:00:12.040 developments recently during the elections where Islamists who went out and shouted,
01:00:17.700 Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, jihad, caliphate is the only solution, went with the Green Party
01:00:22.020 or with the Labour Party, so they're not doing this because they genuinely believe in leftist
01:00:28.460 politics.
01:00:28.860 They're doing this because the right is not going to support their ideals and is not going
01:00:33.780 to further their goals in the West.
01:00:35.920 So what they do is to temporarily, and I'm sure you have a lot on this, is to temporarily align
01:00:43.460 with leftist politics to further achieve their goals of providing compromises that benefit
01:00:51.300 Muslims and Islamic beliefs.
01:00:54.560 And then slowly they can establish their own power and have their own say in politics.
01:01:00.260 This is what they're doing in the UK now.
01:01:01.580 They are beginning to introduce, you know, Islamic parties into the equation once they
01:01:06.660 have sufficiently made use of leftist politics.
01:01:09.700 You have seen probably the only issue in America that I can really think of where you
01:01:13.820 have seen the tensions actually come to the fore is over radical gender ideology in schools.
01:01:19.180 That would probably be the only issue so far where you've actually seen a break between
01:01:24.440 the Muslim population and the left.
01:01:27.460 And to your point, I would say it's actually consistent with Islamic doctrine that when
01:01:32.820 the Muslim population is a severe minority, as a practical matter to ultimately advance
01:01:38.540 the cause, you have to make common cause with the community that you're in, in order to
01:01:43.860 win.
01:01:44.200 Go back to the 9-11 hijackers, for example, like going to strip clubs and drinking before
01:01:49.020 going out and committing the ultimate act of jihad.
01:01:51.680 Why did they do that?
01:01:52.560 Well, as a practical matter in a non-Islamic society to advance their cause, they have
01:01:57.920 to side with people who would have their heads chopped off in their home societies.
01:02:02.660 And it's a, it's obviously, it's a rational thing.
01:02:04.840 If you're small and you don't have a lot of power, you're willing to make common cause
01:02:07.940 with people who you find disgusting.
01:02:10.540 But ultimately the end goal is little by little gain more and more power.
01:02:15.040 And you can go back to, there's document from the Muslim Brotherhood in America, dating back
01:02:21.060 to around 1990, this explanatory memorandum from one of the senior most members of the
01:02:26.760 Muslim Brotherhood in America.
01:02:27.860 And the Muslim Brotherhood is the tip of the spear of Sunni Islamic supremacism, from which
01:02:33.560 Hamas comes.
01:02:34.580 And you could point to Al-Qaeda and pretty much every single major Sunni Islamic supremacist
01:02:38.580 group.
01:02:38.760 They say their goal is to make us sabotage our miserable house by our own hands.
01:02:45.720 So there's been a long running strategy here, consistent with, they can point to Islamic
01:02:50.900 doctrine to justify little by little growing in society, immigrating to these societies,
01:02:57.100 start to enter the political system, make common cause with whatever group has power in
01:03:01.680 a bid to ultimately lead us to kill ourselves or to ultimately, if need be, slit our throats.
01:03:06.380 Well, that's exactly what they're doing literally here in America with this alliance right now
01:03:10.280 is basically a roadmap from the UK of, I've talked to Muslims that are very fanatically
01:03:15.180 religious.
01:03:15.700 They believe, you know, through and through in the Islam doctrine, but they want the pro-border
01:03:20.060 policy, I mean, the pro-open border policies because it allows all of their friends and
01:03:24.920 all of their family to literally fly over and then come and basically push their ideology
01:03:30.040 into society.
01:03:32.040 Colonize.
01:03:32.240 I mean, yeah, colonize, which, you know, it's so funny because the left is everybody's
01:03:36.540 colonizers.
01:03:37.140 We need to get rid of all the colonizers on our land.
01:03:39.080 But, you know, I used to work for a Muslim man and, you know, he, he was less on the radical
01:03:43.620 side, but even, you know, he and how they would operate their businesses is they would
01:03:48.520 essentially fly in somebody, whether it was from Jordan or one of these Muslim countries,
01:03:53.040 you know, right along the border, they cross the border and then they would end up being,
01:03:56.460 we're just working for them.
01:03:57.520 And then that's kind of how they would expand.
01:03:59.400 So this is exactly what you're seeing in America is what we've seen in the UK.
01:04:02.640 You have this whole thing in Europe where there is a very big Muslim diaspora from Turkey
01:04:09.980 and other Muslim countries, especially from North Africa.
01:04:13.400 A lot of people who are in Europe and who can vote for a party in Europe, but also for a party in
01:04:21.020 their home country, like Turkey, for example, will often do something very similar.
01:04:28.460 They will, where they are in Europe, they will vote for a leftist party.
01:04:33.480 However, when they vote for a party in their home country, they will vote for a conservative
01:04:38.200 Islamic party.
01:04:40.780 This is a very, very common trend.
01:04:42.240 It just tells you everything you need to know about.
01:04:44.640 That maybe, maybe the real issue is that the authoritarian fundamentalists see leftism
01:04:50.420 as a destabilizing force in their enemy, in enemy nations.
01:04:55.060 That's exactly what it is.
01:04:56.400 That's what it is.
01:04:57.020 Because that's, that's what, that's what it leads to.
01:04:59.640 We talked earlier about how Kamala Harris in her campaign and, you know, the pick for,
01:05:05.080 for VP would proceed.
01:05:06.120 And whether they would appeal to the progressives or, or the, or the, or the Jewish voter.
01:05:12.500 There is one fact needs to be pointed out.
01:05:15.040 The progressives, the younger people are a bunch of jobless maniacs.
01:05:18.400 So they probably don't worry very much about, about funding from their side.
01:05:24.380 However, they have a lot of impact on public opinion, which is why they try to appeal to
01:05:31.020 that bit while also preserving some of those, you know, of those Jewish Democrats whom they
01:05:37.640 don't want to lose.
01:05:38.540 So they want to make few compromises.
01:05:40.780 However, this is just completely destabilizing, trying to, you know, bit by bit appeal to
01:05:46.400 both sides, but throwing out any, you know, relevant, stable values.
01:05:52.480 The, the, the big challenge, I guess, is people who are raised without having responsibility,
01:05:59.020 purpose, or any kind of moral philosophical understanding, they will persist in those views
01:06:05.860 throughout the rest of their lives.
01:06:07.260 And they will vote and they will counter out, they will counter the votes of those who believe
01:06:12.080 in merit responsibility.
01:06:13.760 And I think what we're seeing here in the U S is that with the expansion of the welfare
01:06:17.720 state, as often as we've, we've continually done it and the tax base.
01:06:21.240 And then with the rise of universities, we have created a generation split where half of
01:06:26.400 them cannot function on their own, do not want jobs to be productive and think food just
01:06:32.920 exists.
01:06:33.640 Quite literally many of these socialists think that food just exists.
01:06:36.660 It's a human right.
01:06:37.440 That's their view on it.
01:06:38.360 Well, they think that there's so much food, there's too much food.
01:06:41.580 And the only reason that poor people can't have it is because rich people don't want them
01:06:44.540 to.
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01:08:15.100 Yep.
01:08:15.820 Have you seen it?
01:08:16.500 Long time.
01:08:17.040 Matt Damon, like everyone on Earth, Earth is a wasteland of limited resources and overpopulation.
01:08:22.040 Everyone speaks Spanish.
01:08:22.720 And then in space, all the rich people live in a space station and they all speak French
01:08:26.120 and they have these pods that you could lay down and it'll cure you of all disease.
01:08:31.600 Got cancer?
01:08:32.160 Don't worry.
01:08:32.880 Gone.
01:08:33.360 And the only reason in this movie that they don't let poor people have it is because they're
01:08:38.660 rich and poor people shouldn't deserve it.
01:08:41.080 And so at the end of the movie, they literally just give everyone, they bring the pods down
01:08:44.200 to Earth and everyone's like, yay, now we're going to be healed and we're going to live
01:08:46.380 forever.
01:08:46.980 That is the leftist worldview.
01:08:48.880 That rich people are just evil and intentionally doing these things.
01:08:52.720 So I've had experience with, the story I like to tell is a friend of mine, rent a business,
01:08:59.120 mid-level social media marketing company.
01:09:01.740 And as he was expanding, he started by himself.
01:09:04.180 He went to a local restaurant.
01:09:05.120 He was trying to find work.
01:09:06.100 And he said, what are you doing for Twitter, Instagram, Facebook?
01:09:08.820 And they were like, nothing.
01:09:09.780 And he was like, you've got a medium-sized business here.
01:09:12.420 I mean, you're not doing any promotions on social media.
01:09:14.500 Let me run that for you.
01:09:15.720 Here's what I'll charge.
01:09:16.780 And they said, we'll give you like a week contract, see what you do.
01:09:19.800 They loved it.
01:09:20.500 Results were great.
01:09:20.980 So they said, we want to do a full-time contract.
01:09:23.440 Business is booming.
01:09:24.600 And so he takes on this small business, a couple locations.
01:09:28.480 He then goes to a few more businesses.
01:09:30.300 He can now show the results.
01:09:31.720 Look at this.
01:09:32.200 We've increased sales by this much.
01:09:33.680 He ends up with a mid-size change, like 10 locations.
01:09:35.940 And he goes, I got to hire people.
01:09:37.220 So he goes online, posts Craigslist and jobs and whatever monster back in the day, saying,
01:09:43.440 you know, looking for somebody with social media experience, college degree requirement,
01:09:47.160 blah, blah, blah.
01:09:48.220 Hires people.
01:09:49.700 He said, basically, the gist of every hire was he would be out doing meetings, trying
01:09:55.000 to get new clients.
01:09:56.060 And he'd get a phone call in the middle of this meeting.
01:09:57.900 And he'd ignore it.
01:09:59.260 And then he ends the meeting.
01:10:00.500 And he answers, what's the problem?
01:10:01.300 They say, this company posted this thing.
01:10:03.540 People are losing it.
01:10:04.400 The comments are, what do I do?
01:10:05.660 And he's like, figure it out.
01:10:07.820 You're supposed to be managing these accounts.
01:10:09.860 I'm out here.
01:10:10.480 I can't deal with this.
01:10:12.300 Fired.
01:10:13.420 OK, you can't do the job.
01:10:14.660 You don't know how to manage this.
01:10:15.720 You're fired.
01:10:16.360 So then he puts up another job listing.
01:10:17.620 Same deal.
01:10:18.720 Looking for somebody who knows.
01:10:20.420 He kept requiring college degrees.
01:10:22.380 And he genuinely thought getting somebody with marketing knowledge and a college degree
01:10:25.760 was going to get him the right candidate.
01:10:27.960 He ran out of money because it was too expensive to keep hiring and firing people.
01:10:32.060 And they weren't getting the job done.
01:10:33.140 And it was straining his ability to pick up contracts.
01:10:35.300 And so then he dropped the college degree requirement, posted only on Craigslist, offering an hourly
01:10:41.180 wage.
01:10:41.980 And he found these two people, a guy, a man and a woman from Utah.
01:10:46.320 And then he said, he said, here's the job.
01:10:49.800 Run the Twitter, the Facebook, the Instagram.
01:10:52.340 Here's what we're trying to accomplish.
01:10:54.700 We'll have posts.
01:10:55.700 Your goal is to post three times a day, marketing the business, blah, blah, blah.
01:11:00.920 He goes out.
01:11:01.500 He's doing meetings, not a single phone call.
01:11:03.480 And he gets worried.
01:11:04.460 He's like, oh, crap.
01:11:05.820 He comes back and he's thinking it's going to be burned down.
01:11:08.800 They weren't doing their job.
01:11:10.240 Nothing got done.
01:11:11.300 And he walks in and he goes, how'd it go?
01:11:12.880 And they're like, all good, boss.
01:11:14.500 And then he was like, no problems, no problems.
01:11:16.400 And he was like, nothing from the clients.
01:11:18.240 He goes, oh, well, there was some post.
01:11:19.480 They had an Instagram that they posted the wrong thing.
01:11:21.960 People were getting pissed.
01:11:22.500 I took care of it.
01:11:23.500 And he was like, OK.
01:11:26.040 And then he told me, he's like, it was a revelation.
01:11:28.560 The kids who had gone to college had only ever been told what to do.
01:11:32.020 Their teachers, the dean, whatever.
01:11:34.500 It was always come here at this time, do this thing, and then you're done.
01:11:37.900 Food was always given to them.
01:11:39.240 They'd show up for lunch.
01:11:40.500 The food's pre-made.
01:11:41.520 And the money was coming from somewhere else.
01:11:43.860 And the people he ended up hiring, because he was in Orange County, he was like, it's
01:11:48.740 people who dropped out of high school, moved to California to live, to pursue a dream.
01:11:54.380 And he was like, you know what I realized?
01:11:55.760 These people were trying to figure out their own problems and solve them.
01:12:00.020 And they didn't go to college.
01:12:01.260 And the college students were just doing exactly what they were told and couldn't solve their
01:12:04.260 own problems.
01:12:05.400 So now what I see is, you know, I love that story, by the way.
01:12:07.840 True story.
01:12:09.240 Shout out to Jeff.
01:12:10.400 What I love about that story is he accidentally discovered the reality of what we are doing
01:12:16.600 with this generation in the universities, creating a generation of people who don't know how
01:12:20.980 to work, don't know where the money comes from, don't know what to do on their own.
01:12:25.680 And we're telling every kid to go to college and gain that experience.
01:12:29.120 They then get out.
01:12:30.120 And guess what?
01:12:30.820 It doesn't matter what cause they latch on to.
01:12:32.880 They will be useful idiots.
01:12:34.360 They will vote for policies that are continuing the welfare state, straining the marriage
01:12:40.080 meritocratic individual and being exploited by people, be it fundamentalist religious
01:12:44.540 groups of any faction or whatever.
01:12:45.920 But people want to see the U.S. suffer.
01:12:48.440 I would bet you if you were to look at the ideology of professors and then teachers from
01:12:53.980 K through 12 onward, that the most left wing cohort in America is probably in academia,
01:13:00.700 in education.
01:13:02.040 There's a reason they went to the school systems, because where do your kids or future
01:13:07.200 kids, where are they going to spend most of their waking hours being socialized into society?
01:13:13.100 It's in schools.
01:13:14.000 These are indoctrination factories.
01:13:16.940 And there's probably an inverse relationship between education level and common sense.
01:13:22.980 The more educated you are, the more removed you are from society.
01:13:26.120 And it sort of makes sense because the universities are the furthest removed from any reality of what
01:13:31.040 the world is actually like.
01:13:32.100 I mean, they don't have to exist on a capitalistic sort of basis.
01:13:36.460 There's no merit really involved.
01:13:38.280 It's one of the most political institutions possible.
01:13:42.240 So if you wanted to take over a society and indoctrinate everyone in a worldview that leads
01:13:46.700 to massive power for those in government, take over the schools.
01:13:51.060 That is the place.
01:13:52.160 Break down the family.
01:13:53.620 Take over the schools.
01:13:55.120 Create an economy where half the population or more is ultimately going to have to be reliant
01:13:59.980 on the existing power structure to survive.
01:14:04.420 And you've taken total power.
01:14:06.460 And that's the leftist worldview and where it ends up in a nutshell.
01:14:09.540 Well, that's the entire point of the Rockefeller school system.
01:14:11.660 And that's exactly what it is, is through elementary, middle school, high school, and then you
01:14:15.640 transition into college as the final stage of indoctrination.
01:14:18.340 It literally exists to make you a mindless factory worker.
01:14:22.480 I mean, you're supposed to just take orders, do what you're told to do.
01:14:25.260 And it's so funny that, you know, you see, like Tim mentioned the story of the social
01:14:29.020 media stuff, the people with the work drives, they expect to be told what to do every single
01:14:33.340 step of the way.
01:14:34.120 And you see corporate, you know, companies hiring people with all, they all have college
01:14:38.560 requirements and then their social media absolutely tanks.
01:14:41.200 And you see this time and time again.
01:14:42.340 But then you see some Gen Z-er who's never gone to college, who just graduated high school,
01:14:46.360 who was making memes for some of these accounts, like KFC's account is a great example.
01:14:51.320 They spit out memes and it's hilarious and it works.
01:14:53.740 It's good for advertising.
01:14:54.980 So it's so funny to see the shift of, you know, social media specifically is the fact
01:14:59.880 that, you know, Gen Z, I'd say is the best at this is like, it's literally just people,
01:15:04.020 these kids that have a work drive, that have some sense of humor that are now overtaking
01:15:08.120 the entirety of social media and now growing these accounts.
01:15:10.900 There's this whole, um, the culture of, uh, of entitlement of, um, saying, uh, you know,
01:15:16.540 um, I, I have this job, so when can I be in charge of it?
01:15:21.180 When can I get whatever I want?
01:15:22.580 When can I get more benefits?
01:15:24.360 They have a gender studies degree.
01:15:25.640 Yeah.
01:15:26.020 I really, I really don't want to do much.
01:15:27.640 I really don't want to work hard.
01:15:28.860 When can I get more stuff?
01:15:30.380 Uh, this, this is, uh, this has so much become part of the culture and this leads back to,
01:15:34.980 um, to the whole alliance between, uh, you know, the leftist progressive movements and,
01:15:39.320 and Islam where you have, uh, Islam coming in as a, uh, different culture.
01:15:45.260 Imagine the Western world.
01:15:46.760 You have a bunch of, bunch of people to, you know, make it very simple.
01:15:49.800 You have a bunch of people working very, very hard to create, uh, something great here,
01:15:54.960 to create a great culture, create functioning societies, create fantastic cities, uh, imagine
01:16:01.160 these, these two guys, these two European guys, uh, on, on a hill thinking, wow, look
01:16:05.640 at what we have built.
01:16:06.580 We have worked so hard to get this done.
01:16:08.980 Now, what should we do?
01:16:10.600 And they turn over and look at the, the very dysfunctional, the destructive Islamic society
01:16:16.020 that hasn't produced anything.
01:16:17.320 And they think, let's just invite those guys over here, let them live here.
01:16:21.520 And then you have the, the leftist culture of entitlement then thinking, okay, uh, those
01:16:27.320 guests, the Islamic, uh, minority that just arrived, they don't have to work for whatever
01:16:33.960 is here.
01:16:35.140 They should also be part of it without contributing to anything because this is what we learn in
01:16:39.800 college.
01:16:41.020 This is what we learn.
01:16:42.100 This is how we, this is how we grew up.
01:16:43.400 This is our culture.
01:16:44.100 This is what is virtuous to just share with everyone, to give to everyone without expecting
01:16:50.320 them to put any effort into it.
01:16:52.800 We should just take without working for it.
01:16:55.820 We should just loot businesses instead of building businesses.
01:16:59.780 And those who oppose us are probably white supremacists, even if they're black.
01:17:03.580 How do Islamic nations handle this?
01:17:05.600 Someone who is not working, demanding of the state and the community to, to support them
01:17:10.500 without doing any work.
01:17:11.440 And there are varieties of, um, of approaches to that situation.
01:17:15.240 The thing is, um, in, in certain, uh, oil rich countries, for example, um, it is very
01:17:20.580 common to expect foreigners to come in and to work.
01:17:23.760 Um, the, the, the rich natives generally don't want to do the work.
01:17:28.440 They just want to spend the money they have, uh, you know, uh, through different means to
01:17:33.440 then, uh, employ different people.
01:17:35.120 Some countries, uh, I think Saudi Arabia actually, at some point put a, uh, puts, put rules in
01:17:40.020 place where, um, where, where businesses are required to have at least such a, um, you
01:17:46.760 know, a minimum of, uh, local workers of native workers, um, which, which is just, uh, a whole
01:17:55.160 reversal of the, of the, of the DEI hire.
01:17:57.720 You know, they, they have to have, they have to hire natives to make them work.
01:18:01.220 Uh, the oil money also, in a lot of instances, funds a welfare state and they have a permanent
01:18:07.980 underclass essentially.
01:18:09.920 Um, and also it's worth noting many of the jihadist groups, including Hezbollah, for example,
01:18:17.060 you have people like John Brennan, for example, a former CIA director would talk about, well,
01:18:20.880 there's the political arm and then there's the military arm of it.
01:18:24.380 They actually have set up social welfare entities within the jihadist groups because, you know,
01:18:29.760 that appeals to the populations.
01:18:31.460 Plus it gives them plausible deniability.
01:18:33.240 They can say, well, look, we're a political organization and we also, you know, kill the
01:18:36.540 unbelievers.
01:18:37.600 Well, something that's worth noting is whenever I do border work and I'm down there crossing
01:18:42.040 the Rio Grande with, you know, immigrants that are coming into this country, whenever
01:18:46.040 I see somebody that is, you know, of origin, that is, you know, of the Muslim faith there
01:18:51.400 every single time.
01:18:52.760 I have not seen it a single time where it's different.
01:18:54.880 They are dressed out in Balenciaga as they're crossing the river in brand new shoes, wearing
01:18:59.600 gold chains.
01:19:00.440 And it's like, these guys already have money that are coming over here.
01:19:03.900 And then they come over here and they're actually willing to work in society.
01:19:07.360 And then a lot of the times they end up becoming business owners that are already tapped in to
01:19:11.380 connections here in America compared to like the Venezuelan side or the Honduras side, you
01:19:16.120 know, Venezuela setting up gangs in Denver in, uh, in New York right now.
01:19:20.140 And then the Hondurans are setting up fencing gangs, you know, and they're selling all the
01:19:24.060 stolen goods in California.
01:19:25.320 So, but you see a very weird difference between the immigrants that are coming here, but almost
01:19:30.180 all the Muslims that come here, they already know somebody in America and they're immediately
01:19:34.080 tapped into some sort of business once they come and arrive here.
01:19:37.080 We talked earlier about, about, um, you know, uh, virtue and contribution, uh, among, you
01:19:41.900 know, different parts of society and, uh, leftists and progressives.
01:19:45.060 There, there is a very interesting data that I recently, um, encountered, uh, which is, um,
01:19:51.600 it studies the, uh, charitable contributions by religious groups in America.
01:19:57.540 Um, and, um, the findings are basically that, uh, so religious people generally contribute
01:20:03.880 much more in charity, um, and Christians, uh, by, as they get more conservative, as they
01:20:12.700 get more traditional contribute more, uh, the Jewish population, actually, I think, uh, 75%
01:20:18.560 of Jews, uh, make charitable contributions.
01:20:20.600 It's, it's the highest in America.
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01:21:47.800 Secularist people who are non-religious contribute much less than religious people to society.
01:22:01.660 Those who are younger and more educated, more on the leftist side, make much fewer charitable
01:22:08.680 contributions, which in my opinion says a lot about.
01:22:11.700 But how much money do they make?
01:22:14.160 Because there's probably a correlation there, too, that leftists make very little money because
01:22:18.260 they don't understand how the economy works.
01:22:21.220 Or it goes to act.
01:22:21.900 I wasn't meant to be a joke, but you know, you can laugh.
01:22:24.480 I mean, I mean, it literally, so many of the leftists that I've talked to think that money
01:22:29.920 comes from a job.
01:22:30.640 And I'm like, no, the money comes from someone else who's trading that money with you.
01:22:35.560 And then, of course, you can talk about fractional reserve banking and the creation of debt,
01:22:38.420 blah, blah, blah.
01:22:38.700 But I mean, like, literally, if you want money to buy a thing, you need only figure out how
01:22:42.820 to trade with someone.
01:22:43.780 But they don't understand basic economics.
01:22:45.460 You actually need to serve someone to be able to receive compensation.
01:22:50.740 I mean, and it's sort of, it makes sense why if you were the evil authoritarian force and
01:22:57.080 you were looking to ensure that there wouldn't be any competition, you wouldn't want there
01:23:01.540 to be a functioning economy.
01:23:02.560 Because once you actually have to operate in the real world, and then, God forbid, once
01:23:07.240 you start to form a family, all of these developments in your life make it so that the facts of your
01:23:13.860 life are essentially conservative, even if you don't realize it, and even if you don't
01:23:17.500 want to admit it.
01:23:18.200 So if you keep everyone in suspended adolescence, essentially, they will never come around to
01:23:23.960 any other political system.
01:23:25.320 If you have to operate in the real world, which they definitely do not want, you're going to
01:23:30.220 have a permanent voter base forever.
01:23:31.940 Well, this is domestication.
01:23:34.580 You know, I watched a documentary a long time ago about cats and dogs, how they came to be
01:23:39.780 domesticated.
01:23:40.320 You guys know the story.
01:23:40.980 Uh, people think that cats got domesticated because we wanted them for hunting rodents.
01:23:45.740 Not true.
01:23:46.680 Cats are an invasive species that we tolerate.
01:23:48.780 That's just it.
01:23:49.620 They would walk around where we lived, and we thought they were funny and fun, and they
01:23:53.720 would come up and rub your leg, and you'd scratch them on the head, and that's what cats
01:23:56.400 do.
01:23:57.120 They're independent.
01:23:58.520 Terriers, or dogs, that's what we bred for hunting rodents and stuff.
01:24:02.320 Dogs evolved through a natural process with wolves coming near human camps and eating the
01:24:09.160 refuse, and the human tribes that tolerated the wolves nearby had less encounters with
01:24:14.040 predators because the wolf scent and urine would keep other predators away.
01:24:18.000 The wolves that were less aggressive towards humans were more likely to feast on the refuse
01:24:23.420 of human camps and survive and have babies.
01:24:26.100 Do that for 10,000 years, and eventually the wolves are walking around in the camps.
01:24:30.900 Humans are totally fine with them, and we call those proto-dogs.
01:24:33.260 And then eventually the humans figured out those wolves are tracking down some animal.
01:24:38.520 Let's go find—ah, too bad for the wolves, though.
01:24:40.860 It was a bull or something, some large animal they couldn't take down, but the humans had
01:24:44.900 spears.
01:24:45.580 They team up.
01:24:46.920 What ends up happening is wolves end up as proto-dogs and then as dogs, and dogs are
01:24:53.160 effectively permanent adolescent wolves.
01:24:55.920 The way dogs behave, happy and goofy and doofy or whatever.
01:24:59.380 However, wolves are fierce, aggressive, independent, and this is why they're so dangerous, why wolf
01:25:04.520 dogs are dangerous, because you have to command their respect in order for them to actually
01:25:09.820 be willing to listen to you.
01:25:12.480 Dogs love you unconditionally, and they feel—they get sad when you yell at them.
01:25:17.500 They do something wrong, and they keep their heads down, and they're demure.
01:25:21.140 What's happening now, whether on purpose or otherwise, is this is what we're seeing with
01:25:25.640 humans turning into permanent children.
01:25:27.920 Did you know that McDonald's has adult Happy Meals now with toys in them?
01:25:32.480 No joke.
01:25:33.580 Toys—adult millennials going into McDonald's and buying a Happy Meal so they can get their
01:25:39.180 little toy, and then soy mouth on Instagram.
01:25:42.180 It is, in essence, a form of domestication in turning human adults into permanent children.
01:25:49.960 Well, then you have these—I mean, the leftists, they literally see—I mean, throughout the
01:25:53.280 food, the water, pretty much everything.
01:25:55.160 I mean, everything's poison, and they're the ones that are engaging in a lot of this
01:25:58.420 and basically taking in—you know, it's always the soy jack memes, and it's a perfect
01:26:01.940 example.
01:26:02.700 Like, these people love soy.
01:26:04.520 You know, they want to eat the bugs.
01:26:05.740 They want to do all these things.
01:26:06.780 But then they go through the college process and it indoctrinates them to an entirely different
01:26:10.400 level.
01:26:11.020 But the biggest thing is then they see the owners of businesses that they're working
01:26:14.720 for.
01:26:15.000 They don't understand the economy.
01:26:16.140 They don't understand where the money comes from.
01:26:17.600 But they see the owners as quite literally slave drivers.
01:26:20.900 That's what they see.
01:26:21.500 They think them working a normal nine-to-five job is equivalent to what slavery used to
01:26:26.220 be, and that they're expected handouts or expected things every step of the way because
01:26:30.080 they simply don't understand how the world actually works.
01:26:32.520 Shout out to SCNR news team.
01:26:34.600 Cassandra McDonald wrote a story.
01:26:35.720 White Dudes for Harris raises over $4 million during Zoom call on Monday evening.
01:26:39.500 And the image that was chosen by our editorial team is one of the soy jacks.
01:26:44.780 You can pull up that graphic that I made, and it's perfect.
01:26:47.580 Which way is it on?
01:26:48.340 Is it on next?
01:26:49.020 Yeah, it's on Tenet.
01:26:49.780 Just look up White Dudes for Harris.
01:26:51.880 And holy crap, like, sitting through three and a half hours of that call, every single
01:26:56.400 time I'm screenshotting the people that are popping up.
01:26:58.940 And it's like, this is a perfect example of what leftists truly look like here.
01:27:04.440 It's an Antifa rally.
01:27:04.900 Aren't White Dudes bad, though?
01:27:06.280 I don't get it.
01:27:07.020 Yeah, that was one thing.
01:27:07.780 Did they actually brand it White Dudes for Harris?
01:27:09.960 They did, yeah.
01:27:10.500 White Dudes for Harris.
01:27:11.020 So white identity politics are now okay for that.
01:27:13.120 It's funny because they actually opened up with a black man who criticized everybody
01:27:18.780 in the chat, and that was actually a part of the call saying, you know, you got to, you
01:27:23.400 know, where are the oppressed ones?
01:27:24.620 You guys need to do this good thing in a rally.
01:27:26.600 And then they closed with a woman that talked about the same thing.
01:27:30.020 So the White Dudes for Harris call opened up with a black man and then ended with a white
01:27:34.720 liberal.
01:27:35.000 So the message is basically, we are white dudes.
01:27:36.920 We are guilty and we feel ashamed.
01:27:39.760 And now we want to vote for Kamala Harris.
01:27:41.580 Struggle session.
01:27:42.640 We talked about this last night.
01:27:43.840 Libby Emmons mentioned this.
01:27:45.560 We were talking about how Christians, conservatives, don't vote.
01:27:49.020 Of course, they vote, but not enough and not relative to the amount of people in the United
01:27:52.560 States.
01:27:53.260 And Libby said, because it's not a religion.
01:27:56.680 You know, Christians go to church.
01:27:58.200 And that's a great point.
01:27:59.320 The left worship at the altar of the ballot box in their, their politics is their religion.
01:28:04.580 And I don't mean that in acute way.
01:28:06.860 I mean, quite literally.
01:28:08.220 We've been tracking this for a while now with Helen Pluckrose, James Lindsay, Peter Boghossian.
01:28:12.660 They've been talking about intersectionality as a non-theistic religion of the left.
01:28:17.360 It has all the similar tenets.
01:28:18.700 They have apostasy.
01:28:20.260 They have blasphemy.
01:28:21.840 They have, in essence, these, these priests of identity politics and wokeness.
01:28:26.760 And when they go to worship and tithe, it's at the ballot box.
01:28:29.580 It's at the universal mail-in vote coming in.
01:28:32.040 And conservatives and Christians go to church, worship, and then don't go vote.
01:28:37.660 Politics is their religion.
01:28:39.800 Man and government is their God.
01:28:43.240 But they are their own God.
01:28:44.340 They are their own gods, which is obviously leads to all manner of disasters.
01:28:47.920 I mean, satanic.
01:28:49.800 But hold on real quick.
01:28:51.500 Literally.
01:28:52.000 It literally is satanic.
01:28:53.140 That is the premise of Satanism, is that you are your own God.
01:28:55.880 You're in control of everything.
01:28:57.460 And it's sad to see, you know, as a Christian, it's like, we are literally called by God.
01:29:01.540 This is one thing that Islamic people do so well, is they spread their religion to even people that don't want it.
01:29:08.620 But as Christians, we are quite literally called to do that exact same thing.
01:29:11.580 Our goal is to be here and to make Earth as heavenly as possible and to bring as many people to heaven with us as we possibly can.
01:29:19.820 That is what we are called to do as Christians.
01:29:22.220 We want as many people as possible to go to heaven.
01:29:24.920 But you see the modern-day Christian, we're just cucked out.
01:29:27.280 And, you know, they take the, you know, turn the other cheek way too seriously.
01:29:30.820 And it's like, no, we are called to instate Christian policies.
01:29:33.480 And then you see all the attacks against Christian nationalism coming out because they're actually scared of it.
01:29:38.620 Because if Christians actually had a backbone, they can make a massive difference in the country, but they just don't vote.
01:29:43.740 And, Tim, I shot you the DM of that graphic if you want to look at it because I know it's hard to find.
01:29:48.020 So here's the important thing to understand.
01:29:50.040 It's only been in recent history that the Republican Party has begun to register more voters and more party members than Democrats, largely due to the efforts of people like Scott Pressler.
01:30:01.480 But before this, Democrats as a political party has always been larger than the Republicans, and Democrats do not represent those who are going to church.
01:30:09.600 The Republican Party has always been, at least in my life, the much more Christian and religious faction, but they, for some reason, have a smaller political party until recently.
01:30:18.020 I was just going to add that if we ultimately get to the endgame, where I don't know if we'll be existing anymore at that point, but if the leftists and the Islamic supremacists ultimately duke it out, the reason I think I give the upper hand to the Islamic supremacists is because they actually do have doctrine, and they have Allah at the end of the day.
01:30:37.420 And that has to be more powerful, ultimately, than man as God.
01:30:42.120 I think between the two, having a theological basis that you can point to will make people do things that a man-made system with no doctrine at the end of the day.
01:30:53.720 And the only other thing I'd say is the irony of all this is the Jews is the one religion that we're talking about here that is inherently anti-expansionistic.
01:31:01.080 Jews don't want other people to join Judaism.
01:31:03.200 You can hardly convert.
01:31:03.980 If you want to convert, they say, no, you're not allowed to convert.
01:31:06.740 And you have to kind of prove your way as to you're not just doing this just to get married to someone who's Jewish.
01:31:12.000 Well, and it's the exact opposite.
01:31:13.680 They don't want non-Jewish people to marry Jewish people either.
01:31:15.760 That's a very big no-no within Judaism from what I'm aware of.
01:31:18.480 But the biggest problem we have with Christians, too, is you have these pastors that aren't willing to talk politics or apply it, you know, apply Christ to the real world.
01:31:26.500 And that's what you see, you see all the trans flags hanging at Methodist churches and all this ideology seeping into the church.
01:31:34.100 And my pastor literally held a sermon.
01:31:35.960 He had me invite, you know, Phil Lyman and other candidates from Utah, like the Sunday right before actually the election that was held for the governor race and all the other races.
01:31:46.060 And he said, you should be talking to these people.
01:31:48.760 He said, you need to be mobilizing yourself and voting because we have basically an issue from God to actually make society as Christian as possible.
01:31:57.140 And I think if pastors and, you know, priests, popes, pretty much everything, and the pope in particular, he has a lot of power, whether people want to admit it or not.
01:32:05.880 Like if he came out and said, you need to vote this way, that's what you see with the LDS church in Utah.
01:32:10.440 And everybody listens to what the LDS church wants in Utah.
01:32:13.700 That's why you get people like Governor Cox and all these terrible candidates propped up.
01:32:17.120 Who would the pope want Americans to vote for?
01:32:19.500 I think at this point, I mean, the pope is no good at this point.
01:32:22.160 He has been saying some pretty interesting and funny statements recently when it comes to, you know, the gay stuff in the church and the trans stuff in the church.
01:32:29.100 But, I mean, the pope is inherently leftist from what I've seen, which is a shame.
01:32:32.940 The thing is, it's very easy to convert to Islam.
01:32:36.280 We're talking about Islam as an expansionist religion, whereas Judaism, for example, is the opposite of that.
01:32:43.280 Judaism has a tradition, a history of teaching.
01:32:47.320 If somebody wants to convert, they are welcome.
01:32:50.200 And a convert is usually very highly valued, but they are supposed to be told three times no, so that they can go away and learn and have proper intention.
01:32:59.720 And if they still want to convert, then, yes, teach them everything, have them convert, make them part of your group, and so on.
01:33:07.940 With Christians, Christians want to spread the religion, but somebody who converts to Christianity is actually expected to, you know, to actually change and to act like a Christian.
01:33:19.160 With Islam, it's not like that.
01:33:20.440 Converting to Islam is very easy.
01:33:23.580 You have people, proselytizers in, I don't know, California and other places go around, put up a stand, talk to people.
01:33:33.240 Somebody comes along who has never heard of Islam before, knows nothing about Islam at all.
01:33:37.640 They have a conversation with that person for five minutes and then urge that person to simply repeat the phrase, there is no God but Allah and Muhammad.
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01:35:11.480 I just want to add, so when it is like that, when you spread the religion this way and you just make people convert simply for the sake of it,
01:35:28.340 and this is the highest value that you must spread the religion, and when you spread the religion you are rewarded, and you do it now willingly, diplomatically, otherwise you do it violently when you have the power, this is where you get.
01:35:42.120 And I disagree with the point, actually, that Islam has a strong foundation and that Islam would sustain because it is founded on theological or on the idea of God.
01:35:53.860 But I think, yes, having God at the foundation, having religion at the foundation, at the core, is something, is strong, it is significant.
01:36:02.980 However, Islam is also on the flip side too destructive, too aggressive, too hostile, too unproductive, and also, most importantly, too self-destructive.
01:36:16.440 There is always infighting, there is always dissatisfaction, there is always a rejection of creativity, which we discussed earlier is very, very important for a functioning society.
01:36:28.420 And there is always the tendency to self-correct and to persecute, eventually, those within who go astray, which is why Islamic societies always ended up fighting, fighting, and then destroying themselves.
01:36:41.580 I would say the left has its problems and has a lack of such a strong foundation, but at least they have the means to further develop and explore different ideas without butchering each other in the end.
01:36:56.240 Well, the problem we see with the Christian voter base, too, is it is very easy to convert to Christianity, too, because the big premise is you take Christ as your Savior, and now you're considered a Christian.
01:37:05.140 And that's great, but he's supposed to change your heart, and in turn, that's supposed to change your actions, which in turn should make you go and vote at the ballot box.
01:37:12.740 But most Christians nowadays, sadly, are Christians and Christians in name only.
01:37:16.920 I mean, they don't read their Bible, they actually aren't trying to change the world, which is what they're called to do, because they never actually open up their Bible.
01:37:22.980 They just say, yeah, I'm a Christian, but they don't act like a Christian.
01:37:26.240 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
01:37:27.760 So where does it all go?
01:37:29.460 Does Donald Trump win, and then, you know, we see a Christian resurgence?
01:37:32.780 I think that the biological issue, the fertility rates, are going to result in this country either becoming Muslim or Christian.
01:37:41.540 But I think leftism just sort of implodes on itself because they abort their kids or they sterilize their kids.
01:37:48.000 I think we have a problem.
01:37:49.980 Our topic today was mainly focused on the alliance between, you know, the left and Islam.
01:37:56.280 However, it's not just the left.
01:37:58.760 This needs to be pointed out.
01:38:00.000 Over the last half year or so, we have seen a lot of developments also on the right of people who are giving in to the idea that Islam is not actually that bad,
01:38:10.360 and we should make common cause and all that, which is a very, very, very dangerous idea, a very dangerous thing to play with.
01:38:17.360 And I just think that it's important for people to acknowledge this.
01:38:22.340 When we talk about why the leftist Islamic alliance is so destructive and so dangerous,
01:38:28.240 we should also point out that it is just as dangerous when conservatives and certain right-wingers,
01:38:33.840 because of their hatred for Israel or Jews, for example, or for other reasons, come to us and say,
01:38:40.120 you know what, we have learned all kinds of bad things about Islam, but Islam is actually not that bad.
01:38:44.440 We should do common cause and we should work together to fight degeneracy.
01:38:48.760 And, you know, we have certain conservative values that are actually quite good,
01:38:53.860 and the Islamic world does very well with the whole, you know, LGBT stuff,
01:38:57.800 and we should be, you know, we should adopt that and we should be like them and all that.
01:39:01.220 No, you don't want to do that. You don't want to go with that.
01:39:02.980 But Muslims are saying that.
01:39:05.100 No, no, they are.
01:39:06.000 Like Muslims are saying they're doing the point you mentioned about LGBT stuff.
01:39:10.120 I think they'd probably lose most Americans if they try claiming they're doing well in that regard.
01:39:13.940 No, no, you have certain right-wingers who will say that Muslims are actually approaching, you know,
01:39:20.920 blasphemy and LGBT stuff in a good way.
01:39:24.380 And I think this is mostly in regards to, like, they don't tolerate gender ideology.
01:39:28.480 Yeah, yeah.
01:39:28.920 But I'm pretty sure, I don't know, if I'm being generous, maybe 97% of this country would outright be like
01:39:36.340 the overarching policies of the Middle East towards gay people is just abject horror.
01:39:41.060 I hope so.
01:39:41.960 Yeah, but there's, but they're, they're definitely going to respect other worldviews.
01:39:45.300 So, but no, I mean, the left seems to completely ignore the issue.
01:39:49.240 Yep.
01:39:49.840 But there probably are some very fringe elements that like what the Middle East does to gay people.
01:39:55.780 I mean, Iran forces sex change, sex changes on people.
01:39:59.380 And to that point, I would say in practice, and this, I might differ a little bit in terms
01:40:03.820 of where the Democrat Party is broadly on this with Middle East policy, the Obama-Biden policy
01:40:09.780 and then the Biden-Harris policy was to make Iran the strong course in the Middle East,
01:40:14.220 constrained by where public sentiment is in America.
01:40:18.380 But Israel is in a seven front war right now, essentially, where with respect to Gaza, the
01:40:25.760 Biden-Harris administration position is force a ceasefire, exchange whatever hostages remain
01:40:31.420 alive for 10 or 15 or 30 times as many jihadis, let Hamas survive, start the creation of a
01:40:38.520 Palestinian Arab terror state, which is what it would be.
01:40:41.100 Also, Israel, within one week after October 7th, don't strike Hezbollah, which has caused tens of
01:40:48.400 thousands of Israelis who live in northern Israel to be refugees in their own country for months on
01:40:53.860 end. And also, when Iran hits you, don't strike back too hard. You want us to defend you, right?
01:40:59.120 You want us to protect you. Houthis, you know, we'll let you control waterways. The entire policy
01:41:04.540 is an Iran-first policy. So the Democrat policy today, I would argue, even though, yes,
01:41:10.800 they'll say, look, we give Israel munitions and we're going to help them defend themselves,
01:41:14.700 defend themselves, but not actually ultimately deter all the adversaries that's around them,
01:41:19.540 because we don't want to get into a fight when we really don't want to escalate.
01:41:22.480 I disagree. I think that's the purpose of escalation. Let Iran do these things so that
01:41:27.100 you can get a cast's belly, so that you can go to the rest of the world and say, look at all the
01:41:30.000 horrible things they've done. We better go in.
01:41:32.220 See, I take the contrarian position, probably, which is that this administration would never go to
01:41:37.660 war with Iran. By the way, and let me just say my position broadly is what the Trump position was,
01:41:44.900 which is starve Iran of their resources, bring the Sunni Arab world plus Israel together to
01:41:53.820 counterbalance and check Iran so that the U.S. doesn't have to do anything in this region and
01:41:58.120 we can focus on China and other adversaries around the world. But if you look at what the Obama-Biden
01:42:04.360 worldview was, it was, we need to get to a nuclear deal, so-called, which legitimized the nuclear
01:42:09.500 program, which flooded a regime, which is a dying, decrepit regime with tens of billions of dollars.
01:42:14.920 I don't think they want an excuse for war. I think they want Israel subdued, and I think ultimately
01:42:21.180 they want it destroyed.
01:42:22.340 You think the Kamala and the Democrats do?
01:42:26.000 Ultimately, look at what the outcome is of the policies that they're pushing. The policies they're
01:42:32.540 pushing are Hezbollah dominant to the north, creation of a Palestinian-Arab terror state on
01:42:36.940 two sides, protect Iran at all costs, legitimize its nuclear program.
01:42:40.680 And I think that is all lining up a circumstance where they can make the argument, oh, we've tried
01:42:46.820 to be such good stewards and they want to leave us alone. Oh, no, now they're attacking us. Oh,
01:42:50.520 help us. We have to go to war. And the counterpoint is with the—Joe Biden is an extension of Obama in so
01:42:57.840 many ways. Stuxnet. You know, we can talk about all the deals they're trying to cut, but the U.S.
01:43:03.240 literally waged—the United States directly attacked Iran with the Stuxnet virus, blowing
01:43:10.160 up nuclear centrifuges. So the only reason we didn't go to war is because Iran chose not to
01:43:16.000 retaliate, or if they did, it was cyber attack or subterfuge. I think this administration
01:43:22.160 desperately wants war. I think that the Democrats—I mean, look, you look at the neocons who fled the
01:43:29.780 Republican Party to the Democratic Party, all of a sudden changed their tune, and all of a sudden
01:43:33.400 are like, we don't actually want to go to Iran. All these guys that flipped on Trump, they were
01:43:38.760 Republicans, and you look at the Lincoln Project guys, you look at these other neocons. These are
01:43:43.520 the people during the Bush administration who were in favor of policies that led to a—you look at
01:43:49.360 Afghanistan and Iraq. We are surrounding Iran with military bases, and the target was always
01:43:54.320 Iran. General Wesley Clark said there were seven countries the U.S. wants to invade. Iran was one
01:43:58.260 of them. We didn't get there yet, but we got the rest of them. Granted, we didn't do well in Syria,
01:44:02.080 largely due to Donald Trump getting in office and putting a kibosh on these things. I look at Kamala
01:44:06.640 Harris, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton. This is the uniparty establishment. Neocons have
01:44:12.980 joined them because Donald Trump is shutting down their long-term plans. You go back to 2009.
01:44:17.860 You had the report from The Guardian in 2012 that in 2009, the United States government
01:44:22.220 internally decided they were going to invade and remove Bashar al-Assad from Syria.
01:44:28.340 It was very difficult, but lucky for us, the Arab Spring happened, and then there was a civil war,
01:44:33.100 and it just turns out Bashar al-Assad's the bad guy. ISIS rises, and somehow they end up with
01:44:37.820 U.S. material. A couple things on the Arab Spring, though. One, where was the Biden administration,
01:44:42.580 Obama administration silent, Iran? Number two, those regime changes, what did they lead to in
01:44:49.500 every single instance? Jihadist insurgencies. Who did the Obama administration help topple in Egypt?
01:44:56.620 Well, it toppled the relatively secular dictator for the Muslim Brotherhood. In every single instance,
01:45:02.160 the regime change policies, which maybe you would say the neocons, and they probably were,
01:45:05.360 were for, to get democracy. The democracy always, in every instance, led to more hostile regimes to
01:45:13.180 the West. And I think that's intentional. Absolutely intentional. Ultimately, some kind of massive war
01:45:19.080 in the Middle East. I think, see, I think... Which was ISIS. And then what... Who did we side with
01:45:24.040 to take ISIS down? Who was it? The Iranian militias. It was all the Iranian... And why is it that under
01:45:29.760 Donald Trump, ISIS is obliterated, but under Obama, it's not? Here's the issue, Tim. Real quick,
01:45:34.900 it's because Obama was hoping that ISIS was going to destroy Syria. And what's the problem with Syria?
01:45:41.380 The U.S. has wanted to build the Qatar-Turkey pipeline for a very, very long time because
01:45:44.440 Russia's control over gas prices in Europe. This is why you have the Burisma scandal. It's why there's
01:45:48.740 currently war in Ukraine. It's why NATO wants to gain control of Ukraine, so they control the gas
01:45:52.900 pipeline, which is about 20% of the gas into Europe. When Syria said, you will not build a pipeline
01:45:57.480 through our country, the United States all of a sudden went, oh, gee, Bashar al-Assad's a dictator.
01:46:03.240 And Syria quite literally stated, we will not allow you to build a pipeline because it will
01:46:08.480 disrupt our ally Russia's gas sales into Europe. ISIS rises. Oh, whoopsie daisies. Obama drone
01:46:14.740 bomber, they call him Obama, couldn't figure out how to deal with the problem of ISIS. It's expanded
01:46:18.760 rapidly as we continually, let's just say, behind the scenes, we're hoping that they were going to
01:46:23.640 get rid of Bashar al-Assad. Donald Trump gets in, ISIS gone. War in Ukraine is freezing. Basically,
01:46:30.400 the conflict starts drying up. What I see from this regime, and it's not even fair because I can
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01:46:56.620 They're more aligned with themselves, to be completely honest. And so they want to sell gas
01:47:01.220 for what they can sell it for. The U.S. is trying to compete to get cheaper energy into Europe to allow
01:47:04.980 economic expansion. Russia is basically blocking this. You look at more modern history and Donald Trump
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01:48:38.320 Trump was not supposed to win. Hillary Clinton was next in line. They were going to continue the
01:48:43.420 expansionist policies through Eastern Europe into Ukraine. You already had the conflict. 2013,
01:48:48.900 you had the Euromaidan protests. The accusation from Russia and other countries is that the U.S.
01:48:53.760 was funding and supporting it. The Venezuelans thought the U.S. was supporting it.
01:48:57.760 Barack Obama loses. Ukraine freezes. ISIS is obliterated. Abraham Accords. Things start
01:49:03.640 changing dramatically. Donald Trump calls off the airstrike on Iran, which was supposed to be
01:49:07.680 retaliation. Then he says, OK, we can't do this. It'd be too many dead. What I see from the Democrats
01:49:12.420 is you do not have public support for this. People greatly despise what's going on in the region
01:49:18.140 among populists on the left and the right. None of us want to be involved with Israel and the war
01:49:22.680 that's going on there. But the United States needs a justification for how we're going to war with
01:49:26.600 Iran. And this is all greatly speculative. I could be wrong about everything. Well, the working theory
01:49:31.860 right now with the Donald Trump assassination after the miss hits Trump supporters, killing and
01:49:37.580 critically injuring, too. You have this narrative pop up just briefly for about 10 minutes. Iran was
01:49:42.860 planning an assassination on Trump. Was that the goal? They were going to another FBI said the
01:49:47.660 social media accounts of this guy, Crooks, was anti-Semitic and anti-immigrant. Was the narrative
01:49:54.240 going to be that an anti-Israel right winger, a groiper who hated Donald Trump for his support for
01:49:59.740 Israel, didn't want Donald Trump to get in office and fund Israel? So with Iranian backing and funds
01:50:05.820 was able to pull this off. Thus, the U.S. would then have a Nikki Haley as a candidate for the RNC.
01:50:10.740 She's the second highest most delegates or Joe Biden or Kamala. And the only outcome then is we
01:50:16.320 have to retaliate against Iran for what they did to Donald Trump. The issue here, Tim, is so Trump
01:50:21.960 was generally anti-war. And, you know, we can we can agree on that. However, there was there is one
01:50:27.500 thing that he was very firm on, which was that Iran is the bad guy in the Middle East. He had a he
01:50:34.440 toured Bolton. He toured the entire Middle East, went to the Arab nations, went to Saudi Arabia,
01:50:39.160 gave a speech there and pointed out in that speech, while praising everyone for their contributions
01:50:43.920 and for how everything is going. He said, he said, we all know that there is one player that is,
01:50:50.580 you know, that is that is doing all the bad stuff here, basically. And we need to confront them.
01:50:55.100 That is Iran. He was consistently very much anti-Iran. And and Iran is, according to speculations,
01:51:03.320 pretty much terrified of another Trump administration, because it would be a stronger
01:51:08.360 United States. The sinister thing is that whether America wants war with Iran or not,
01:51:14.660 Iran actually wants a war because it is part of the Iranian of the Islamic regime of Iran.
01:51:21.080 It is part of their ideal that there would be a future which made which which made might come soon,
01:51:28.420 where a religious war will be waged and Iran will be on top of it, where they will destroy America and
01:51:36.120 destroy Israel with the help of of divine, you know, help and all that, which is why they have
01:51:42.420 official slogans, death to America, death to Israel. And there are religious groups here who want
01:51:47.600 that to happen, too, because they think it's what's required to bring about the return of Jesus or the
01:51:51.860 first Messiah. But this religious movement is in power in Iran. So this is official Iranian policy,
01:51:56.780 right? I don't see Donald Trump going to war with Iran. He hired John Bolton. John Bolton in the
01:52:01.940 Trump administration said, I think it was 2017. Next year, we will be celebrating in Tehran. And
01:52:06.200 then he gets fired, stabs Trump in the back. I don't think Trump is going to is going to bring
01:52:10.600 us into war with Iran. I think they are going to get us into a war with Iran first. That way,
01:52:14.780 if Trump wins, he can't back out of it. It won't be as easy. You look what's happening right now
01:52:19.820 with the the airstrike in Tehran killing the Hania. I mean, that's look, man, the only thing
01:52:26.660 stopping mass like a large regional war from breaking out right now is whether Iran decides
01:52:31.060 to pull the trigger because they just got bombed in their capital. So I would say and again, this is
01:52:36.520 a contrarian position. Go back to the signature Obama foreign policy. Iran nuclear deal. What did
01:52:42.900 that do? It's not it recapital, but it recapitalized the regime. And that was in the second term,
01:52:47.820 mind you, when JCPOA was ultimately executed. And also, I understand Obama was operating within
01:52:54.600 the confines of American political sentiment. Political sentiment has shifted in this country.
01:53:00.220 So my view is that Obama world, which really dominates the Democrat Party, they're true believers
01:53:05.280 who actually believe that we can just have peace with Iran if we just appease them. And it'll be just
01:53:09.480 like China. And oh, by the way, and this is, I think, for a lot of the real power hungry people,
01:53:15.220 the end game is we need to open up Iran to Western investment because this is going to lead to a
01:53:20.140 massive, massive windfall. Who poses the greatest threat to that massive, massive windfall? It would
01:53:26.080 be Israel. And then it would be Israel allied with the Sunni Arab powers in the region. The whole policy
01:53:32.080 was make Iran the regional strong course. I do not believe it was we need to get into a war with
01:53:37.620 Iran. And this is somehow going to lead to, you know, America engaging in the ultimate regime
01:53:42.460 change operation. Totally agree with you. Donald Trump would not get into a hot war with Iran.
01:53:48.340 The entire goal of the Abraham Accords was to get us out of the region and not have to deal with the
01:53:53.240 problems there. But what is preventing the massive war today? The U.S. just rushed warships into the
01:53:59.800 region after those assassinations. Everything it is doing is to restrain Israel from being able to
01:54:06.100 punch back really hard. I know these assassinations. I agree. I know the assassination
01:54:10.280 attempts are treated as massive, but the pattern has been strikes on Israeli civilians and other
01:54:16.560 targets infrastructure. Israel is allowed to take out the commander who called in the hit or the
01:54:21.380 architect. By the way, Israel just took out a guy who was a mastermind behind an attack on
01:54:25.520 Americans that killed over 240 troops and injured more than 100 more. The entire pattern is Iran and
01:54:33.800 its proxies can hit Israel. Israel can hit back with a limited amount of force. They claim because
01:54:39.360 they want to, our government claims, to de-escalate the situation. But it ultimately leads to escalation.
01:54:44.680 And you're saying that's by design. I don't think it's by design. I think they really believe if we
01:54:48.820 can just restrain Israel, that nuisance in the region, and we can get them surrounded so they
01:54:53.380 can't do anything, then the world that we want, which is an Iran-dominated Middle East, will prevail.
01:54:58.540 Iran will open up to Western investment and we'll all get rich off of it and there'll be balance in the
01:55:02.760 region. I don't think they believe they're going to convert Iran into an economic, you know, ally
01:55:08.200 or whatever. But I do think that there is a possibility their strategy is isolation. Surrounding
01:55:14.700 them, Iraq and Afghanistan, cutting off trade routes, choking them out with sanctions until
01:55:19.640 their government collapses. This administration is sanctioning Israel right now. Iran already has an
01:55:25.620 expansionist, you know, policy and ideology. And they have been at this for many decades. They just
01:55:30.980 haven't been very, very successful with it. The entire plan is to, they are already isolated
01:55:35.760 because they are a Shia, a very religious Shia Muslim country, which is not very popular
01:55:41.680 among Sunni Muslims. Sunnis generally dislike Shia Islam. They want to be a contender and they want
01:55:48.700 to become a major power in the region. And they think that one of the best ways to do that is to
01:55:54.860 establish proxy fighters in different countries like Hezbollah, the Houthis, and now also Hamas,
01:56:02.200 to then exert more and more power by force and to become a major player and to take down the others,
01:56:09.100 the rivals like Saudi Arabia, for example. Working with Saudi Arabia right now, as much as I hate it,
01:56:14.240 I think Saudi Arabia has a disgraceful, disgusting regime. However, working with them is much more
01:56:22.060 beneficial to America, whether it's Republicans or Democrats, than working with Iran. Iran is not
01:56:30.300 a country in the current state with the Islamic regime that either party would want to collaborate
01:56:36.300 with. They are all out for the destruction of America and Israel. And, you know, people have a lot
01:56:43.840 of criticism whenever Israel responds or whenever Israel takes somebody out. Seriously, screw these people.
01:56:52.060 Israel is surrounded with enemies, with Hamas, with Hezbollah, with Houthis, with all the others
01:56:58.360 that explicitly and repeatedly say, we will kill you all. We will eradicate you all. No other nation
01:57:06.140 in the world would be expected to have restraint and to, you know, not strike back, to be careful and
01:57:13.520 all that. Other nations wouldn't act like this. Other nations would forcefully respond to those who want
01:57:19.220 to eradicate them. And they would be justified in doing so. Israel has suffered enough and Israel
01:57:25.620 should be striking back. The issue with the current administration and with the Democrats is that
01:57:31.500 if Kamala Harris is elected, Israel will probably not have much support in their current war and there
01:57:38.740 will be more support for the establishment of another terrorist Palestinian regime. Trump doesn't want.
01:57:44.320 Trump is firmly against it. He also explicitly said he wants to help Israel. Trump wants to help Israel
01:57:49.680 in their war to finish Hamas. I can't follow this train of thought I don't understand. It's the third
01:57:53.440 time I've heard it in two days. Why would the Democrats who have aligned themselves with neocons
01:57:57.760 just abruptly today decide to stop funding Israel after decades? They wouldn't stop funding Israel.
01:58:02.720 What they would do is to pacify Israel and to continue this whole trend of saying we will support you as
01:58:11.040 long as you deal with restraint when you deal with Hamas, when you fight Hamas and the Palestinian
01:58:19.280 authority. And the problem with that is Hamas is a terrorist organization that wants to destroy Israel.
01:58:26.000 There is no way that these two groups can coexist. But the Democrats want to force Israel to do that.
01:58:31.360 Barack Obama. So just pulling up more details on Stuxnet inherits something called Operation
01:58:37.520 Olympic Games from George W. Bush and ramps it up exponentially, which is a I don't care what the
01:58:44.160 tactic of a strike is, would be akin to them launching missiles and blowing up Iranian nuclear
01:58:49.520 facilities. This nuclear deal is meaningless to me. That's public surface level appeasement
01:58:53.600 for the international community. That's meaningless because we know that Barack Obama launched a
01:58:58.400 military strike on Iranian targets and blew them up. But one thing about Stuxnet after that, though,
01:59:03.840 what happened to Iran's nuclear program with American funding ramped up dramatically now infinitely more
01:59:10.880 hardened with new facilities and centrifuges spinning and infinitely closer, at least according to the open
01:59:16.400 source. What's what's the reason that Barack Obama would blow them up and then fund it?
01:59:20.240 I think ultimately he was constrained by the conditions on the ground politically in America.
01:59:26.320 In Israel, he probably viewed this as this is the least impactful and destructive way that I can ensure
01:59:33.520 that I have political cover prior to executing what how how could you possibly the cognitive dissonance of
01:59:41.280 Stuxnet. But then we're going to legitimize your nuclear program or we're actually going to pledge
01:59:45.840 U.S. protection to your nuclear assets and we're going to sunset the provisions in this plan so that
01:59:51.200 your nuclear program is legitimate and totally above board and accepted. How can you reconcile
01:59:55.840 those two things? And to me, ultimately, it is it's the domestic politics of it. And it's the wheels that
02:00:01.840 were set in motion prior to him being president, because the whole second term was all about I mean,
02:00:06.880 why would you push so hard for the Iran nuclear deal and put pressure on Jewish Americans,
02:00:10.960 the New York Times and elsewhere to say, oh, you're siding against this. You're disloyal to your
02:00:14.560 country because you're against this this deal or you're you have dual loyalty and you're siding
02:00:18.800 with the Israelis. And the last point I would make is aid. So aid, we haven't really talked about it
02:00:22.880 that much. And for my money cards on the table, like I would love a world where USAID is de minimis
02:00:29.440 everywhere. And that includes in Israel. And there's a great sort of symposium that Tablet did about this
02:00:37.520 months back from people who are pro-Israel and people who are pro-U.S. national interest who say,
02:00:42.000 yes, we should get rid of aid. And Israel, by the way, should have its own domestic defense
02:00:45.680 production capacity, just like we should have our own domestic defense production capacity.
02:00:50.160 The aid package that Barack Obama negotiated with Israel was in part to shut Israel up about its
02:00:57.200 opposition to the Iranian policy and a slew of other policies that the administration engaged in.
02:01:02.640 But it was also because it turns Israel into a client state rather than an actual ally. So the
02:01:08.320 aid is leverage, which binds Israel in a situation like it faces now where it's in a seven front war.
02:01:15.040 It can't go over the U.S. set red lines because you don't want to risk the $3.8 billion in military
02:01:19.760 aid that we provide every year. So even the aid, which is presented as we love Israel and we're going
02:01:24.080 to throw these billions of dollars at you, is actually a form of power, control and leverage.
02:01:29.600 And at the end of the day, again, I would say an independent Israel and an independent
02:01:33.280 U.S. would be infinitely better all around.
02:01:36.800 See, I don't think I can buy into the idea that the military industrial complex,
02:01:41.120 if Kamala Harris is elected, that they're just going to all of a sudden show restraint and not
02:01:45.440 back Israel. I mean, we hear this on both sides that Israel is our greatest ally. We give them
02:01:50.160 basically infinite money glitch year by year. We give them bombs to drop on people. And I mean,
02:01:55.360 and the idea that Israel has to hold restraint because of the U.S. is kind of crazy to me,
02:01:59.120 because we have seen there's so many videos of what's going on in Gaza that is not restraint.
02:02:03.200 But if Israel had executed the operation, they wanted to execute. I mean,
02:02:07.280 the U.S. controlled the timeline. The U.S. controlled the weapons that were used. The U.S.
02:02:11.200 controls where you're allowed to go in and where you're not allowed to go in. The U.S. negotiated
02:02:14.960 already the ceasefires. This could have been executed much more swiftly and decisively,
02:02:20.400 probably with fewer casualties on both sides, if Israel had been able to go in with maximum force
02:02:26.320 immediately. Because as you know, in war, and we've seen this with the U.S.,
02:02:30.400 when you get into these ground invasions that are plodding and slow and you're going
02:02:34.880 house by house, that ultimately leads to quagmires. If you go in with decisive force,
02:02:39.440 if you take out Qasem Soleimani, that's infinitely more effective than going house to house in any
02:02:44.000 number of countries in the world. So I would argue, and I know it's a contrarian position,
02:02:47.760 we wouldn't be plodding along months and months into this right now, were it not? And also,
02:02:53.440 with rules of engagement imposed on Israel that have led to one of the lowest military to civilian
02:02:59.360 ratios in the history of modern warfare, and certainly lower than the U.S.,
02:03:03.120 this wouldn't be happening if Israel had been able to do what it wanted to do originally. But
02:03:07.280 the administration has micromanaged every aspect.
02:03:09.280 I mean, the ultimate goal, though, is war with Iran on both sides, in my mind. I mean,
02:03:13.520 our entire involvement in the Middle East, that hasn't benefited the United States. We're not
02:03:17.760 gathering natural resources. We're not being a colonial empire. I mean, if you're going to go
02:03:21.840 in, in my mind, at least take some oil, take some things. And that was a lot of, you know,
02:03:25.280 kind of the narrative that we were sold. But pretty much every war that we have fought in the Middle
02:03:29.120 East has been in benefit for Israel. But when we took, see, I disagree. And here's why. Iraq war.
02:03:35.680 Who took over Iraq after that war? It's the Shia militias and Iran's proxies. We turned
02:03:41.760 idiotically Iraq into Iran 2.0. Why would you do that? How could that possibly be
02:03:49.200 in the U.S. national interest or to get into war with Iran? That allows Iran to expand its power
02:03:54.960 massively. And now you have what they call ring of fire in the region where you have
02:03:59.280 Iran and its proxies everywhere. Why do we give billions of dollars in aid and in military money
02:04:04.560 to the Lebanese Air Force and to Lebanese forces? It's all for Hezbollah.
02:04:08.400 I want to clarify something Ben just said in response also to your remark about Gaza.
02:04:15.040 So one point is that the Democrats would not cut off their support. They would not stop funding
02:04:20.160 Israel. They would simply change their expectations of Israel or maintain basically what they expect
02:04:27.280 from Israel right now, but force even more restraint. There is an expert, John Spencer at West Point.
02:04:35.680 He is an expert on urban warfare. He pointed out, and even Netanyahu repeated this in his speech
02:04:42.000 recently, he pointed out that Israel has shown more restraint and has taken more measures to
02:04:48.320 minimize civilian casualties than any force in the history of urban warfare so far and has done more
02:04:56.080 to prevent civilian casualties than is actually expected by international laws. So Israel is doing
02:05:04.560 a very, very good job under the current circumstances with the operation in Gaza, but they are very much
02:05:10.240 restrained and can't do what they want, which is to go in and take out and finish Hamas. Hamas has to be
02:05:17.280 finished. There is no other way around. If you leave Hamas alive, if you leave them in charge,
02:05:23.120 there will be more suffering, more pain, more deaths in the very near future. And the Democratic
02:05:28.960 Party is making compromises for the progressives and for the others and, you know, to keep the
02:05:35.440 Palestinian Party happy. And they want to prevent Israel from going all in and finishing Hamas.
02:05:40.240 So let me just say, just to sum it up, I think, what the dispute ultimately is. I'm sympathetic to the
02:05:46.240 view that what's good for the military industrial complex. War is good for the military industrial
02:05:51.120 complex. And why are there all sorts of, you know, sinister, nefarious reasons that you can explain
02:05:55.440 why things happen in national security and foreign policy. But I think the dispute lies ultimately in
02:06:02.080 my view is that Iran first is the policy of the Democrat Party. You guys think that that's a ruse,
02:06:09.520 essentially, to the extent it even exists. And you could point to Stuxnet as a counter example
02:06:15.360 and say that, actually, we really want war with Iran. But I would just point to all of these conditions
02:06:20.720 on the ground that suggest we are funding, aiding, abetting and enabling them. And I don't think it's
02:06:26.000 at the end of the day to then fight a war with them. I would put money down that the Biden administration
02:06:30.960 would never get into a hot war in the way that we would normally describe it with Iran. I can't
02:06:35.840 fathom it. But what would that be? I mean, a hot war with Iran is not going to look like Iraq and
02:06:40.720 Afghanistan, where we basically kick the door down. It's a mountainous country with the surface
02:06:44.560 to air missiles. We can't just walk in. What do you think it would look like?
02:06:48.720 The surrounding Iraq and Afghanistan with military bases. It would look like what it does now.
02:06:52.800 Yeah, exactly what's happening. And then the shipping of weapons to an insane amount to the
02:06:58.720 tens of billions of dollars every year into Israel as a staging operation, because we want to blow
02:07:02.960 that country up. Wesley- Why topple Benjamin Netanyahu then?
02:07:06.800 He's not giving them what they want. They want control of the... It's fascinating to me that
02:07:10.640 there are people who think Israel controls the United States. It's just like the most insane
02:07:13.760 thing I've ever heard. Because the United States wants direct control, and they want someone who's
02:07:19.200 going to serve the military industrial complex. I shouldn't even say the United States. It's the
02:07:23.440 Western forces. Oh boy, the media got really mad when I called it the Western forces. Yeah,
02:07:28.160 because it's Europe. It's NATO. It's massive corporations. Some of them exist in Southeast
02:07:32.640 Asia. These are companies that want control over the region. And you don't win wars by standing up
02:07:39.120 and going, I'm going to go fight. You win wars with subterfuge manipulation, false flag attacks.
02:07:44.080 And how do you rally public support behind you for a massive war in Iran? You need a cast's belly.
02:07:49.200 You need a 9-11 style event to justify a war. So for what reason did the United States invade
02:07:56.400 Iraq and Afghanistan? No legitimate reasons. Osama bin Laden turned out he was in Pakistan
02:08:00.880 the whole time. Apparently, there's been numerous reports. We knew where the guy was.
02:08:04.560 But for some reason, and I'll shout the family guy for making the joke, when it's like they made
02:08:11.360 a 9-11 joke where Peter's like, wow, some Egyptian, he's like, so because of 9-11,
02:08:16.640 we got to go to a war with Iraq. And Brian's like, no, it wasn't Iraq. Afghanistan? No.
02:08:20.800 And he goes, Iran? No. He's like, it was some Saudis, some Egyptians, et cetera, et cetera.
02:08:26.160 It's fascinating that after 9-11, it's like, well, time to go invade Iraq.
02:08:30.000 And I think most Americans, because of their lack of understanding of Middle Eastern geography,
02:08:33.840 didn't really stop to think, hey, wait a minute. Iraq and Afghanistan surround Iran.
02:08:38.560 The thing is, Iraq was a counterbalance to Iran. So like the Iran-Iraq war,
02:08:43.840 from the perspective of US national interest is the best thing ever, because you have the
02:08:47.920 Sunni and Shia fighting each other and not focused on us. Why would you destabilize and take out
02:08:53.760 Saddam Hussein to then turn Iraq into an Iranian proxy? I just, on its face, it doesn't matter.
02:08:59.200 Because that's called failure, not intent. So here's the map. I mean, just.
02:09:04.080 But I think it was believable based upon the population numbers and what the Shia population
02:09:08.000 was like, that it would end up the way that it ended up. I mean, arguing that the US government
02:09:12.160 is incompetent, I will agree with you 100%. My perspective would then be, what logical reason
02:09:17.680 would there be to set up, to invade Iraq and Afghanistan? These are the Western and Eastern
02:09:24.320 borders of Iran. Afghanistan was more, I mean, you have, I think you have a better logical argument,
02:09:29.040 like there are Al-Qaeda camps here, Al-Qaeda struck us. That's a more reasonable line, if you were taking
02:09:34.720 it at its face, than the Iraq. Iraq is harder to defend. Afghanistan was totally justified.
02:09:38.240 Afghanistan was harboring and making excuses for the very people who were, who took responsibility
02:09:43.120 and who were responsible for 9-11. Well, I mean, we create proxies and then
02:09:46.480 fights proxies and then those proxies don't work. But what about the Sunni and Shia to fight
02:09:50.640 each other? And what about Saudi Arabia's involvement? Well, several families, and this was several
02:09:55.360 years ago, got the right to sue Saudi Arabia for their involvement. It's an absurdity to be like,
02:10:00.160 well, you know, we have to go invade a foreign country because we're attacked.
02:10:03.120 Uh, Ron Paul described it as, no, you issue a letter of mark and reprisal.
02:10:07.600 You get, you get some PMCs and you do limited conflict to seek out those who attacked you.
02:10:11.920 You don't declare war and invade a country and start nation building,
02:10:14.800 naming roads after athletes and celebrities. I, yeah, I don't, I mean, I'm against nation
02:10:19.760 building. And it was decades, decades. And, uh, and you know, they didn't want to leave.
02:10:25.200 And Donald Trump negotiated with the Taliban. They lost their minds over it. And then Joe Biden
02:10:29.600 basically nuked the, the, the Afghanistan withdrawal in the most psychotic and absurd
02:10:34.320 way that no one could think was a rational plan. I look at this, like, you know, Wesley Clark said,
02:10:40.160 Iran's last on the list. It, this is it, to me, it looks like it's all part of a bigger play for
02:10:46.480 control in the region. And I think it would be silly to assume that this military strategy of
02:10:52.240 the entirety of Western forces is we are going to wear our plan on our sleeve, publicly declare,
02:10:57.280 we will walk to the doorstep of Iran, knock, and then say, we hereby declare war. It's always
02:11:01.200 going to be manipulation, narrative manipulation, subterfuge, cyber attacks. And once again,
02:11:06.560 in the modern age, especially with mass media, it used to be very easy to generate a cast's belly.
02:11:11.840 You could literally just say our ship blew up. Trust me. And people would be, how dare they?
02:11:17.360 Well, now you've got a discerning population that says, show us. Well, what do you get? You get,
02:11:20.560 you get the Gulf of Tonkin where it's like, oh, oh, heavens help us. They, they bombed our ship.
02:11:25.200 Oh geez. That was a lie. And that was the, that was the cast's belly for our involvement in Vietnam.
02:11:29.760 The United States is not going to declare a war in Iran without something that pushes the American
02:11:34.560 public sentiment in that direction. Perhaps the assassination of Donald Trump would have been
02:11:39.040 that if it succeeded. So the question would be like, what is the objective of Middle East policy
02:11:44.160 for our regime? And to me, I think that typically it's always been stability.
02:11:51.200 Maintain status quo, don't have oil prices, shoot through the roof, et cetera.
02:11:55.200 And if that was your objective and you're of the worldview that it's really the Sunnis and
02:12:03.280 Israel that are the chief threat to the stability of the region, then you side with a strong course
02:12:09.040 and you want the strong course to be Iran. That's, that's ultimately, I think they, and,
02:12:14.160 and, and what we should, they could be doing a lot more to support Iran than just like
02:12:18.560 unfreezing money. They'd lift sanctions. They'd start, they'd, they'd literally send pallets of
02:12:24.480 cash.
02:12:24.800 Well, we have not imposed oil sanction here. We haven't imposed oil sanction, enforced oil
02:12:30.480 sanctions rather on Iran to the, so the regime has gotten tens of billions of dollars in oil
02:12:35.840 monies that it wouldn't have had under Donald Trump. The nuclear program continues advancing.
02:12:40.560 And my point is just that they are, they, and when we should bifurcate between like what a military
02:12:45.040 people want and what are the political civilian leaders want? Because there are differences,
02:12:48.480 I suspect, but ultimately at the end of the day, the Democrat party is constrained by American
02:12:55.600 sentiment. So they can only push it so far. They can't say we're, we're for regime change in Iran.
02:13:00.560 I mean, they, they, they wouldn't do that. And I agree. Subterfuge certainly is a huge part of it.
02:13:05.040 The only other thing I'd say is on crooks, my read on the whole Iran thing, because like Iran has,
02:13:09.840 uh, assassination bounties on the heads of most of the Trump administration, senior officials,
02:13:15.520 uh, and there've been threats on them. Um, and there've been threats on Trump from them for a
02:13:19.680 long time, throwing that out there to me, it's a head fake to make this about a foreign influence
02:13:24.240 thing. I, I, I think it's, I think it's, uh, I don't trust anything when it comes to the,
02:13:29.040 the intelligence community says this about foreign interference in our elections X months out,
02:13:33.600 you know, just like they said, Russia prefers, uh, Trump over Biden again. You know, I like,
02:13:40.320 I think we have to be very careful about what they're throwing out.
02:13:42.720 Ben, it's hard for me to try and understand why the neocons and the uniparty Democrats,
02:13:47.440 this, this weird alliance that formed with Donald Trump, what are they, what's their goal then?
02:13:53.360 Well, they don't like Russia. They agree on that because Trump, Russia. Um, however,
02:13:57.360 I think probably the, those neocons that you're talking about, like if you asked Hillary Clinton,
02:14:01.440 what is your ultimate objective for the Middle East? She wanted war. She definitely wanted war,
02:14:06.880 but to what end, but to what end though, it was for jihadist insurgencies and for the
02:14:12.480 Islamic supremacist parties to come in. I mean, I don't agree with that at all.
02:14:16.560 Here's the example. Qaddafi. Qaddafi kept a lid as awful as he was an anti-American,
02:14:22.560 obviously. Set all that aside, he kept a lid on the jihadist groups in his country.
02:14:28.800 She, you know, she says, we came, we saw he died. What did that unleash in Libya? And I mean,
02:14:34.400 it ended up getting Americans killed, obviously. So in, and I, again, Egypt, Mubarak or the Muslim
02:14:40.640 Brotherhood? Yeah, but it was the Muslim Brotherhood.
02:14:42.080 It's not the Muslim Brotherhood now.
02:14:43.040 Well, ultimately they failed to your point.
02:14:45.280 Yeah, because the military came and started killing them all.
02:14:47.120 But yeah, but, but not America. I mean, that wasn't what Barack Obama wanted. He wanted
02:14:51.440 democracy in the Middle East and democracy in the Middle East. Oftentimes what the voters vote for
02:14:55.440 is, well, they voted for Hamas and Gaza. They voted, you know, they wanted the Muslim Brotherhood
02:14:59.680 in Egypt. Well, look, I just want to say we can speculate forever about, about what, about what our
02:15:04.320 government, what our governments want to do with Iran. There is just one fact that I think we should
02:15:10.320 keep in our minds, which is that Iran officially wants to fight America. Eventually it is
02:15:16.960 still part of their official policy. They still say, in fact, the day Ismail Hani, the political
02:15:23.120 leader of Hamas was finally killed, he visited the parliament in Iran. And on that day, as he was in
02:15:29.840 there, they honored him by shouting all together, death to Israel, death to America, death to Israel,
02:15:36.080 death to America. Keep that in mind. See, but the idea to me that, you know, Iran is an imminent
02:15:41.440 threat to America is absurd. I mean, they're, they're halfway across the world. These people are not a
02:15:46.560 threat to us in this aspect. We've made Russia the current boogeyman because the military industrial
02:15:51.600 complex always need a boogeyman. And now Iran is now becoming that next proxy setup for us to be
02:15:56.480 dragged into a larger war. They want it for a while, but Al Qaeda was not a threat to America either.
02:16:02.480 But you see what they have done. I don't think that Iran is a threat to America or to our existence.
02:16:07.600 So why is it our problem? But they want to actively fight us again and again by proxy,
02:16:13.680 by different operations, by different means, by attacking allies and so on. So I'm not saying we
02:16:20.000 should go in there and we should fight them. I am saying we should keep in mind that Iran has as one
02:16:25.840 of their most important ideological goals, the destruction of both Israel and America. Never forget
02:16:31.520 that. So I don't think we'll solve the entirety of the military industrial complex strategy. But
02:16:37.600 gentlemen, it's been a blast for having you. Do you want to shout anything out before we go?
02:16:40.960 We'll go through the... Yeah, I have a YouTube channel, Apostate
02:16:43.760 Prophet visits there. I talk a lot about these things. I also want to quickly remind people that
02:16:49.680 there are lots of hostages still being held by Hamas in Gaza, in captivity, civilians, including
02:16:58.000 babies, one that just turned one year old. So we need to do everything to bring them home. And we
02:17:03.680 even have American citizens still being hostage. Right on. Hard to follow that up, except to say
02:17:12.480 the book that I wrote, American Ingrid, kind of predicted where the Democrat Party would land
02:17:18.480 on a slew of these issues. We won't agree on what the ends are ultimately of American plans and the
02:17:25.760 jihadist plans. But I think all of us want to see America strong, our national interest protected.
02:17:31.520 I think we'd probably all agree that America being a dominant force that does not have to be used,
02:17:38.320 and only when goes into operation is used prudently and with overwhelming force narrowly to avoid
02:17:45.440 getting ourselves involved in all sorts of things that ultimately undermine the country.
02:17:49.200 We should be strong, use our force prudently, and pursue our national interest at the end of the day.
02:17:54.000 Right on.
02:17:55.200 Everyone can follow the company I work for at WatchTenantNow. Obviously,
02:17:59.680 we're streaming there now, but follow us on X and TaylorUSA on Twitter. And I just want to say,
02:18:04.000 we shouldn't fund Israel. We shouldn't fund Ukraine. None of this stuff is in our final interest.
02:18:08.720 We have really no interest in that region. It does not benefit us. I'm strictly America first.
02:18:13.360 Let's take care of our homeless veterans that went and fought worthless wars in the Middle East,
02:18:17.600 and are now traumatized and are not taken care of here in this country.
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