The Culture War - Tim Pool - The Culture War #80 Theaters BLOCK City Of Dreams, Major Cities COLLAPSING, Debt Default w⧸ John Devaney & Shane Cashman

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00:00:59.320 A new movie, City of Dreams. You may have heard of it.

00:01:04.960 There's a viral video. I believe it was Kevin Posobiec who went to the movies and he was attempting to buy a ticket

00:01:10.340 and when he pulled up the seating map, all of the seats were blocked. You couldn't choose any of them.

00:01:16.480 Now this is strange. He went into the theater and it was empty.

00:01:20.160 This sounds very similar to what happened with Sound of Freedom.

00:01:24.760 The interesting thing here is that City of Dreams has to do with human trafficking as well.

00:01:28.840 So we're going to talk about this. The movie is now being dropped from theaters.

00:01:32.820 This is a crazy story.

00:01:34.500 But there's a lot more to it.

00:01:35.840 We're being joined by John Devaney, who is also, I guess you're a retail and real estate expert.

00:01:41.580 And so you've got a lot to say about what's going on with this movie, with it being blocked.

00:01:47.320 But also we were just getting into, you're saying that these cities like Chicago,

00:01:52.380 as if they're becoming ghost towns, there's going to be a debt default.

00:01:56.760 Before the show even started, you were like, listen, we've got, okay, okay, we'll start.

00:02:00.400 So who are you? What do you do?

00:02:01.460 So anyway, my name is John Devaney. I'm a bond trader. I own a company called United Capital Markets.

00:02:09.980 It was founded in 1999. And what we do is we buy and sell structured finance bonds,

00:02:17.300 bonds backed by residential mortgages, commercial mortgages.

00:02:21.080 There are asset-backed securities backed by credit card loans, auto loans.

00:02:24.460 It's a very big part of the bond market that's as big as the entire corporate bond market.

00:02:29.440 And so I was really good at modeling and sales when I was in my 20s.

00:02:35.000 And I started this company and started providing liquidity to these very complicated securities.

00:02:40.260 And I've been incredibly, incredibly blessed throughout my career.

00:02:44.400 You know, my company took off in 99 and 2001, 2002.

00:02:49.900 And by 03, you know, I'd made more.

00:02:53.600 I mean, this isn't really about me here, but then Jeffries or Raymond James and, you know,

00:02:57.540 my company had exploded. You know, Tim, like, we're like brothers, dude.

00:03:03.520 Like, yeah, I mean, that, that, that I find our stories very similar.

00:03:09.420 Okay. We're outsiders. Okay. In very big markets.

00:03:13.700 You happen to be in media and I happen to be in finance.

00:03:16.500 Nobody would have thought that a young man on Key Biscayne, Florida, okay, never worked for anybody on Wall Street, okay,

00:03:25.520 could build up a business to compete against Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley and Deutsche Bank

00:03:30.240 and have, you know, 300 million credit line from Bank of New York.

00:03:34.560 You know, we were a very, very big company in my early 30s that had hundreds of millions of product in our inventory.

00:03:42.080 And, and I had earned all of that capital through trading billions and billions of these products.

00:03:48.940 I, yes, I got tagged in the financial crisis.

00:03:52.080 If you Google me right now, someone told me I should pay Google to change around and make you look better.

00:03:56.680 I don't really care about any of that, but I was in the Time magazine for being the top 20 people for causing the financial crisis.

00:04:03.740 Kind of a compliment, actually.

00:04:05.540 You know, the little old John Devaney on Key Biscayne somehow had a hand.

00:04:08.400 I mean, we had a bunch of these securities, but not anywhere near what, you know, could have impacted and actually caused the crash.

00:04:14.540 I just was very, very involved in those markets.

00:04:17.320 So anyway, that's what I do.

00:04:18.480 I got killed in the financial crisis.

00:04:20.700 I came back.

00:04:21.880 We built our company back, and I'm still doing it right now.

00:04:26.380 And I've always believed in giving back, okay, throughout my, the culture of my company is to connect with my community and try to give back.

00:04:38.140 So we have a community reinvestment leg of my company, you know, participated in helping over 100 different philanthropies over time.

00:04:45.860 And so when this movie was shown to me by a great friend of mine named Sean Wolfington, he was one of the producers of Sound of Freedom.

00:04:54.880 This man, 20 years ago, made an incredible story called Bella, okay, and he had funded it and backed it and helped to market it about a young girl who chose to keep her baby.

00:05:05.680 And it wasn't really, you know, pro-life.

00:05:08.320 It was just a beautiful, beautiful story.

00:05:10.120 And since then, he's been involved in seven or eight films.

00:05:13.220 And then he showed me this film.

00:05:16.380 And the writer and the director, Mohit, had contacted him.

00:05:21.080 They'd had the film finished.

00:05:22.340 I screened this story, City of Dreams, okay?

00:05:25.680 And I was so touched by the story of a young boy who was trafficked across the Mexican border and enslaved in a sweatshop in L.A.

00:05:35.960 And this is based on a true story.

00:05:39.280 And it's about this boy's courage to stand up against his captors.

00:05:44.580 He had the courage to fight.

00:05:46.020 And he fought for his freedom, and he fought to free these other children.

00:05:51.860 And I wept at the end of the story, like you all will, and like the hundred celebrities that all signed on with us to help to raise awareness on this.

00:06:02.780 And I talked to him until 2 in the morning.

00:06:04.840 And the next day at 9 o'clock, I immediately called him.

00:06:08.720 I got to my office, and I said, you know what?

00:06:10.940 I'll give you the money, and, you know, now we've brought the film to 775 screens.

00:06:17.120 It was going to get out in 75 screens, like many independent films do.

00:06:20.480 And I said, you know what?

00:06:21.420 It's so important to raise awareness on this topic.

00:06:24.060 And I'll get into some of the issues.

00:06:25.820 I've become very, very smart, kind of an advocate to protect children now throughout this journey over the last six months that I've been involved.

00:06:34.580 But so anyway, so I embraced supporting this film and have now started a film company called Manor House Films.

00:06:43.400 And I feel great about it.

00:06:45.740 I would like to bring, you know, we're saying that we're going to make films that matter.

00:06:49.520 And I think that it's so important right now with all this stuff that's going on to try to back films like this that have important purpose and meaning.

00:06:57.960 Yeah, I agree.

00:06:58.660 And it's sad that it's not a rare thing about what you're saying with the child who was trafficked across the border.

00:07:03.360 That's happening all across this country right now.

00:07:06.720 So they dropped the film recently.

00:07:09.800 I mean, so I mentioned this early in the intro that there's videos from Kevin Posobiec where he goes to the – like you go buy movie tickets and you pick by the ticket and that shows you all the seats and you pick your seats.

00:07:21.360 They're all blocked out.

00:07:22.400 And we heard similar things in Sound of Freedom.

00:07:25.000 It seemed like they're trying to block this film, which is weird.

00:07:28.700 But now we're hearing that you're saying it was dropped from like 500 theaters?

00:07:32.700 Yeah, I mean, just to be fair to everybody in the movie theaters and everything, you know, I saw the same report as well.

00:07:41.600 And so I'm not saying anything like that had happened where they're, you know, trying not to sell the tickets.

00:07:48.700 But there's some kind of funny stuff going on right now.

00:07:51.660 The one thing that I know is that our distributor, Roadside Attractions, these two wonderful men, Howard and Eric, run that company and they support independent films.

00:08:02.160 They've made 200 films now and they're our distributor.

00:08:04.640 Unfortunately, a couple days ago, they notified me that the theaters, Regal, AMC, Cinemark, they decided to reduce our theater count from 775 to 225 for this weekend.

00:08:21.380 It's our second weekend.

00:08:22.940 Like, what about supporting films that matter?

00:08:27.280 What about helping raise awareness for these children?

00:08:31.040 Like, we are devastated right now.

00:08:33.680 We have a very loving group of people that we've done media and TV.

00:08:38.920 We've raised all this awareness out there.

00:08:40.780 But no, no, real quick, like what movies are out right now?

00:08:44.900 Beetlejuice.

00:08:45.600 I know.

00:08:46.080 I'm looking forward to watching Beetlejuice.

00:08:47.660 I am.

00:08:48.600 That's all I can think of.

00:08:49.920 I'm willing to bet that if I pull up a local theater, they're going to be playing reruns.

00:08:55.800 I don't know how you describe it, but old movies.

00:08:59.140 Let's see.

00:08:59.640 These are all coming soon.

00:09:01.780 Deadpool and Wolverine is out.

00:09:03.760 Twisters.

00:09:05.820 It just seems strange to me that they would pull the film from so many theaters when there's really – what's the competition?

00:09:13.840 What are they making space for?

00:09:14.720 Even though the movie is not explicitly political, the things it talks about get political when people talk about those things, depending on who's in office and all that stuff.

00:09:23.000 Do you think that has something to do with it there?

00:09:24.620 Yeah, I think that Hollywood overall and the media right now has an issue with child trafficking and some of these issues like pedophilia for some reason.

00:09:38.020 I just don't know why that some of these issues that are out there aren't spoken about more broadly.

00:09:45.500 It's just so unusual.

00:09:47.200 There's a reporter named Hannah Dreyer at the New York Times.

00:09:53.880 I can give you the link.

00:09:55.020 There's one link that goes to over 20 articles that she's written.

00:09:59.580 She's done an incredible job reporting on the problem at the border.

00:10:03.400 I do believe that part of the pushback, I think, from media and maybe from Hollywood overall is that the flawed policies at the border that this movie is highlighting, that potentially it's giving a big boost to President Trump.

00:10:23.140 Because President Trump was very vocal a number of years ago in talking about how the flawed border policy could impact and hurt children, among other problems with the large migration at the border.

00:10:37.760 If you listen to the whistleblower who is from the Health and Human Services from about a year ago.

00:10:42.460 Yep.

00:10:42.940 And you take her word.

00:10:44.720 She makes it sound like Biden and Harris oversee a human trafficking ring at the border.

00:10:48.700 And how many children have gone missing?

00:10:51.360 Hundreds, hundreds of thousands.

00:10:52.840 Yeah, it's hundreds of thousands.

00:10:54.380 Just to kind of back up, I could kind of explain it in an easy way that a lot of people might be able to understand just from, you know, trying to just be a simple man.

00:11:04.400 What I think has happened, okay, and I could talk about two legs of child exploitation and trafficking.

00:11:13.780 And I'm going to first talk about the leg of many of these children that came across the border.

00:11:18.300 And then I'm going to talk about child labor overall and how we all have a responsibility as consumers to buy products that aren't made, okay, from child labor from our U.S. corporations.

00:11:30.860 And I believe that there needs to be new legislation and laws that focus on making sure that the products that we use every day aren't made by slave labor anywhere in the world, okay?

00:11:42.140 Because this is a very important issue, not just in the United States, but across the world.

00:11:46.140 So let me first go back and talk about how I see what happened with hundreds of thousands of children that are being exploited in the United States right now as a result of flawed border policies.

00:11:57.260 A number of years ago, some of the policies were loosened somewhat and that some of the unaccompanied migrant children were welcomed into the U.S., okay?

00:12:09.600 It used to be that you could go to an uncle or an aunt or a parent, and then the rules were changed, and now you could go to a sponsor.

00:12:17.260 So these traffickers in Central and South America had sort of gamed the system and realized that they could just dump kids at the border and they would be welcomed in.

00:12:28.660 They were trafficking the children just like they traffic drugs, and they pitched families, very poor families in places like Guatemala, that these children might have a better life in the U.S.

00:12:39.980 And these parents, I mean, as a parent, I couldn't even think about having an 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13-year-old kid and giving them away.

00:12:49.420 But these countries have such poverty, and it's so difficult for them that I think these parents just believed that maybe they were giving a better opportunity for their child.

00:13:00.760 And so many of these traffickers would load up 12 kids.

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00:14:28.600 Desjardins in a suburban and take them to the border and dump them off.

00:14:33.980 Can I say something really quick before you continue?

00:14:35.320 Is there's even in Guatemala, they play radio ads and they have Facebook ads targeting young underage children saying, come to America.

00:14:44.000 And it's the traffickers doing that to bring them to the border.

00:14:47.300 Yeah, they're making three to five thousand bucks.

00:14:49.680 I saw the same thing and it's just unbelievable.

00:14:52.460 Like there's a whole business saying we can, I mean, or the kids are joining these marches and they're given to another adult they don't know.

00:15:02.220 And the kids just walk away and march for days and days and make it to the border.

00:15:05.880 Anyway, so the kids get to the border.

00:15:09.060 If you go back and look at all the news reports, there were tent cities across the border with hundreds and hundreds of children.

00:15:17.040 Okay, so the children made it to the border.

00:15:18.600 The real big issue that Hannah had reported on, and honestly, I just cannot believe that the news wasn't reporting on this back then in 21, 22, 23.

00:15:29.840 She really did this expose in 2023 and she's still reporting on it in 24.

00:15:34.920 She found that some of the sponsors on this side of the border, okay, had 20 kids.

00:15:42.660 And that the traffickers, in fact, which are bad guys, recommended the sponsor name of somebody in Minnesota.

00:15:49.640 There's a big hotbed in Minnesota.

00:15:51.660 There's Texas and Florida.

00:15:54.000 So the bad guys were giving the sponsor name to bad guys over here.

00:15:57.180 And then she had found through her investigative reporting that some of these houses had 15 and 20 kids sleeping like sardines in two bedrooms.

00:16:05.100 And that 15 passenger vans were picking these kids up and working from like 8 p.m. till 3 in the morning for kids that are 12, 13, 14 years old.

00:16:16.020 These are like babies.

00:16:17.080 And then she reported that a lot of the kids told her that the sponsor families were charging every kid in the house 500 bucks of rent.

00:16:25.740 None of the kids are in school.

00:16:27.160 Like this is human trafficking.

00:16:29.880 This is awful.

00:16:31.360 I learned about this, okay, when I watched the movie from the director.

00:16:36.560 And I was like, what?

00:16:37.800 Why isn't anybody doing anything about this?

00:16:39.580 I'm like, I'll do something about it.

00:16:41.420 I'm like, I've got a lot of resources.

00:16:42.960 I'm a very, very blessed man, and I should be focusing on helping.

00:16:47.700 And that's why I got involved in this whole thing.

00:16:49.920 Since then, I've got quite a bit smarter and have met a lot of people that are trying to make a change.

00:16:56.100 But they're pushing up against a lot of the media.

00:16:59.020 Nobody wants to talk about these issues right now because, unfortunately, it is a bit political.

00:17:04.220 And so –

00:17:05.380 But so hold on.

00:17:06.600 I mean, is Kamala Harris going to make this problem persist, make it worse, or ignore it, or what?

00:17:14.140 I mean, honestly, it doesn't matter if you're on the left.

00:17:18.440 It doesn't matter if you're on the right.

00:17:21.000 It doesn't matter if you're black or white or Latino.

00:17:25.040 It doesn't matter who you are.

00:17:27.440 Everybody in America needs to protect and save our children.

00:17:33.080 Everybody in America needs to talk about this issue right now.

00:17:37.180 And that's one of the things that this movie is highlighting.

00:17:40.340 This is why this director, Mohit, made the whole story.

00:17:44.120 His intent was to raise awareness on this topic.

00:17:47.460 And it's just – honestly, that it's one of the most important things going on in our country right now.

00:17:54.360 It's funny because the media cared a lot about kids in cages, you know, all those years ago.

00:17:59.360 You think they'd put that same emotion into this, but it's political, and they won't.

00:18:04.380 So they ignore it, and they sweep it under the rug, and that's a real shame because it shouldn't be political at all.

00:18:11.520 But I don't think a lot of people on the left and the media care about protecting children.

00:18:15.840 But the scary thing is that right now people are more interested in winning for the party than they are for solving the problems this country is facing or that these child victims are facing.

00:18:27.820 And that terrifies me, you know.

00:18:31.400 We were just talking about this before the show.

00:18:32.960 I was talking about this with some family and friends.

00:18:34.500 To me, it feels like the collective IQ of the United States has dropped by about 10 points over the past 5 to 10 years.

00:18:44.580 And maybe that's a really crude way of explaining it or describing the phenomenon I'm seeing.

00:18:48.940 But it really seems like, you know, what is it?

00:18:52.440 How we can see a human being, someone – like for me personally, people that I've known for a long time.

00:18:57.980 And if I went to them seven years ago and said, should we – look at these children who are being trafficked.

00:19:04.140 I mean, this is horrifying.

00:19:04.840 Should we do something about it?

00:19:05.460 They'd be like, wow, that's messed up.

00:19:06.820 Today, they're just like, why are you against Kamala Harris?

00:19:09.580 And I'm just like, I don't understand.

00:19:12.480 That's not happening.

00:19:13.200 You're wrong.

00:19:13.860 Like what happened to the ability to think and reason and question?

00:19:19.020 It is terrifying to me that we're at the point where you're not even getting political on the issue.

00:19:23.700 You're saying, hey, we shouldn't let these kids be trafficked.

00:19:26.100 This is horrible.

00:19:27.980 And they're like, well, you know, we could stop it, but it would be bad for our team.

00:19:31.420 So instead, we're going to shut your movie down and not do anything about the problem.

00:19:35.020 If that's the direction this world or this country is going, then the dystopian future is outside the realm of anything that these authors thought Orwell or Bradbury.

00:19:43.600 The very nature of the conversation is political now.

00:19:45.860 You can't just say human trafficking is bad because that immediately signals to whatever political side you're on that this is a political thing now.

00:19:52.000 We're talking about the wall.

00:19:53.100 We're talking about Trump.

00:19:53.740 We're talking about the border czar.

00:19:55.220 That's pathetic.

00:19:55.920 Yeah, we've got right now.

00:19:58.240 The other thing that like I've been I've been my life is is better.

00:20:04.820 And this project to me is a blessing for my own heart.

00:20:09.620 And like when you have your kids, you know, my kids, I've got two in college and one just graduated, you know, and when one of my kids looked at me, my oldest daughter, and she's helping with this right now, Corinne.

00:20:23.780 And she looked at me and she said, Dad, you're doing the right thing, you know, and she's fucking right.

00:20:30.100 Because I'm doing the right thing.

00:20:32.340 And it's crazy how widespread it is.

00:20:34.100 I'm telling you that there are business leaders out there just like me, okay, that people that are in business and that have the resources, they should join together with me and speak up.

00:20:45.440 Okay, this is a big issue.

00:20:47.100 And we have 100 celebrities, business leaders, politicians on both sides of the fence that have joined hands together with us.

00:20:58.840 We've been in a circle, we've prayed together and cried, holding hands.

00:21:03.300 I was in L.A. and there are wonderful people that are behind us.

00:21:07.960 Tony Robbins has been a very big advocate.

00:21:12.120 He and his wife actually are very involved in preventing child trafficking.

00:21:17.620 And he's gone undercover, okay, to bust people and put, you know, fake mustaches on and stuff like that.

00:21:24.600 And he went undercover.

00:21:26.020 He's been very involved in protecting children.

00:21:28.840 And so he joined together immediately.

00:21:31.040 He doesn't need anything out of this, okay, that Vivek Ramaswamy has been a great spokesman and partner for us.

00:21:38.120 And he's said very clearly, it doesn't matter if you're on the left or the right, we need to protect our children.

00:21:44.000 Can I ask this real quick when you talk about this story with people?

00:21:47.100 And I also, it's beyond politics.

00:21:49.260 It should be.

00:21:49.720 I wonder if it's that people hear these stories and they just have to tap out mentally because they can't take how evil it is and how widespread evil is.

00:21:57.600 Because it's everywhere.

00:21:59.340 Yeah.

00:22:00.040 It could be that.

00:22:01.820 I mean, I would really ask that everybody go and see the movie, okay?

00:22:06.740 Because it's so important to understand that there are these really big issues that are going on out there.

00:22:13.380 And there are some really bad people that are doing very bad things to children.

00:22:18.220 Yep.

00:22:18.460 Constantly.

00:22:20.080 In Virginia, just a few years ago, they, well, yeah, it was 2018.

00:22:26.500 They convicted 13 MS-13 gang members for trafficking a minor.

00:22:30.580 I think she was 13.

00:22:31.460 And you can see all the messages that they were sending to their clients, you know, bringing the child to behind apartment buildings, doing stuff in the woods, violence to sell the videos to people in other countries.

00:22:43.920 And that was right here in Virginia and Maryland happening.

00:22:47.520 And that's just one, that's a fraction of how much that's going on.

00:22:51.420 I want to give a quick shout out in the chat to Jack Frost who says, I'm pretty sure this isn't live.

00:22:55.280 Now you're sure.

00:22:57.600 There you go.

00:22:59.020 Have you felt any pushback from, like, you've got celebrities and you've got politicians on both sides that are trying to stop this, but have you felt pushback from politicians or other prominent interests?

00:23:09.860 Have there been powerful business interests being like, hey, stop talking about this?

00:23:13.760 Yeah.

00:23:14.320 Aside from pulling your movie from theaters?

00:23:15.740 Yeah, I mean, it's funny that you say that right now, that we've discovered that Meta, we've recently written them a letter, but that we've made now, go to our website, cityofdreamsmovie.com.

00:23:34.380 We've got testimonials that have been made now by over 100 celebrities, influencers.

00:23:39.860 I've met a number of influencers that have, like, three, four, five million followers on YouTube that all said, you know what, we want to join your movement and join your cause.

00:23:50.120 That we have over 100 testimonials where people looked at the camera and said, join our movement.

00:23:57.400 Join this fight to protect children.

00:23:59.500 And do you know what we just discovered?

00:24:00.880 We discovered that all of these celebrities, including like Mike Tyson and Sylvester Stallone that spoke up, they're only getting five to 20% of the normal views that they get on Instagram, five to 20%.

00:24:18.620 Everything they post gets tons of views, a half a million views or whatever.

00:24:23.040 These things are trickling in.

00:24:24.460 There's hardly any views.

00:24:25.460 That we wrote a letter to Meta and we're trying to get a hold of them and that it could be, okay, and it might not be on purpose.

00:24:35.040 I just can't think that it is, but it might be that the keywords of child trafficking, that they have to prevent the traffickers from using Facebook to network.

00:24:51.140 Apparently, Facebook was one of the biggest tools that lured predators to the children.

00:24:59.460 And so it's true that there needs to be quite a bit of reform online to prevent some of these other bad things from happening.

00:25:06.440 And so it could be that Meta inadvertently has now suppressed and shadow banned all these celebrities that are trying to speak up, but it's only a trickle of the views.

00:25:18.180 That's an optimistic view of that.

00:25:19.480 I don't know, maybe they're doing it on purpose, maybe they're not, but I would make a plea to Meta and to Zuckerberg.

00:25:27.560 I would say, listen, you should join the fight with us, please.

00:25:31.440 Mark, like I'm a business leader.

00:25:34.480 You're a business leader.

00:25:36.260 Please protect and save children.

00:25:38.540 You can help us right now and you should be helping to amplify our movie, amplify this story and try to protect and save these kids.

00:25:47.320 We need to find these children.

00:25:49.640 It's been reported right now that there's like 300,000 of these unaccompanied minor children that came across the border and the government now admitted they have lost contact.

00:26:02.120 That means they have disappeared into the United States and we don't know where they are.

00:26:07.380 We don't know what adult they're with.

00:26:09.780 It's cuckoo.

00:26:11.200 It's first of all, it's totally cuckoo that a 10 year old kid could get to the border and they're not with a parent or guardian and that you could let a kid cross the border.

00:26:21.060 The first of all, that's kind of crazy.

00:26:22.980 Like that shouldn't be happening and that now they've given them to sponsors with absolutely no vetting.

00:26:31.260 In the foster system, they've learned that the foster families can exploit children.

00:26:37.720 A foster family needs to text back and forth and show a photo.

00:26:41.680 Are kids okay?

00:26:42.900 Weekly, monthly.

00:26:43.940 HHS was giving children to sponsors that were MS-13.

00:26:48.200 Wow.

00:26:48.460 Yes, that this whole system they've admitted now and there were a dozen of people at HSS that have resigned over this whole matter.

00:27:00.400 What you're talking about was all the whistleblowers that walked out and that Hannah Dreyer reported on this and good for her.

00:27:07.820 40 kids going to one sponsor.

00:27:09.860 Yeah, good thing for her speaking up for the children.

00:27:12.880 That is a liberal newspaper and she had the guts to report this and to report about these whistleblowers that walked out of there and they warned them that this system of giving these kids without vetting to these sponsors could harm the children.

00:27:27.680 However, that very senior people that were involved in caring for the kids in these tent encampments were being very, very, were given clear directive that it looked very bad on TV that all these kids were there and they said, you've got to push them out.

00:27:45.120 We want you to push them out faster.

00:27:47.540 And so there's no check.

00:27:49.680 Nobody ever checked on any kid.

00:27:52.240 Nobody checked.

00:27:53.340 They let these these minor unaccompanied minor children into our country and they never checked to see if they were OK.

00:27:59.080 It's just crazy.

00:27:59.960 The people listening who are like, this is hyper partisan.

00:28:02.120 Just this conversation is so political.

00:28:04.400 This also happened under Trump.

00:28:06.160 You know, many thousands of children went missing and his administration said once they go to their sponsor homes, we have no oversight.

00:28:13.460 We don't check up on them.

00:28:14.500 So it's not just now.

00:28:16.840 That's right.

00:28:17.340 It's been going on for quite some time and no one seems to care.

00:28:21.200 And it's been I mean, I don't know how they're going to fix it.

00:28:23.880 Are you familiar with the story where it was Dr.

00:28:26.800 Phil speaking on I think it was on The View, right, where he said that he went down and interviewed Border Patrol and they said children will come up with numbers on their arms that they know are sex trafficking rings and they just send them right to these people.

00:28:40.560 Yeah. When I was in Yuma at the border, there's lettuce farms along the wall on our side and they'll tell the farmers will be like children just walk up young, eight years old with numbers on them for the like what Tim's saying.

00:28:50.800 You just call this number.

00:28:52.140 Yeah. And then and then and then Hannah even reported, you know, she's talked to a lot of these children that that some of the children are responsible for paying back the three to five thousand bucks and that it's like a loan on their head.

00:29:04.560 So now you've got like little kid indentured servants.

00:29:09.220 So like like it's so important.

00:29:12.740 This issue is so important.

00:29:14.460 And so I recognized that it was a big issue.

00:29:18.020 And I said, you know what?

00:29:19.620 I'm I'm going to fund the movie now.

00:29:22.100 I've realized that I should speak up.

00:29:24.820 So it takes courage.

00:29:26.040 It takes courage for me to say, hey, I'm going to speak up and I'm going to give a voice to these children that have no voice.

00:29:33.680 OK, because if I'm not using my voice and if you're not using your voice to speak up right now, who's going to speak up for these kids?

00:29:41.100 OK, the media is not doing it.

00:29:43.080 Our mainstream media.

00:29:44.540 I mean, go and look on the Internet.

00:29:46.440 Who else besides Hannah, who had the guts to report on this issue?

00:29:50.120 Who else has the guts to report on this?

00:29:52.280 The TV isn't.

00:29:54.040 OK, they only do it when it's advantageous to their political side.

00:29:57.400 And even then, it's not full.

00:29:59.820 Like when I say kids in cages, those are Obama's pictures that they're using against Trump.

00:30:03.920 They only do it.

00:30:04.880 They pick and choose how they want to do it when they do it.

00:30:06.940 And right now, because of all the stuff at the border, they're not going to touch it because it makes their side look bad.

00:30:13.560 But it should make everyone look bad because it's been a total failure for many years.

00:30:18.940 It's scary stuff, man.

00:30:20.020 I'm mostly scared of, you know, I feel like we know the trafficking happens.

00:30:26.820 We know bad stuff happens.

00:30:27.800 But we assume that most people, 99%, 99.9, the people who aren't traffickers or who are exploiting these kids, want it to stop.

00:30:36.380 And like with Sound of Freedom, the way the media attacked that film and called it a MAGA conspiracy theory, all this great.

00:30:45.380 But are these journalists, are they getting paid off by the cartels or what is this?

00:30:51.900 Like, I don't understand what their connection is to it where they absolutely have to defend this machine.

00:30:57.640 If you're a journalist in New York and you hate Donald Trump and you're writing, you know, Trump is bad.

00:31:02.320 I don't like the man.

00:31:03.200 And someone comes to you and says, would you like to write a piece about how there's sex trafficking on the border?

00:31:07.260 For what reason are they like, hmm, I better make that story go away?

00:31:11.300 They hate Trump that much.

00:31:13.320 Yeah.

00:31:14.020 That's terrifying to me.

00:31:15.120 What did that mean for this country?

00:31:16.160 I saw Sound of Freedom in the Capitol when McCarthy was still speaker.

00:31:19.260 He invited a bunch of people there.

00:31:20.420 And he said he invited everyone to come watch it.

00:31:23.300 Democrats, not one Democrat was in that room.

00:31:25.700 No one.

00:31:26.600 Because at that point, it had been in the headlines as this kind of right-leaning film.

00:31:31.140 There's no politics in that film.

00:31:33.180 But that's what people believe.

00:31:34.700 So they couldn't show up.

00:31:35.720 Because the second you're in that room, now you're guilty by association, even though it's for a really good cause to help protect children.

00:31:41.920 We were invited.

00:31:44.480 And I'm a little bit discouraged because we've now been rescheduled.

00:31:48.060 But we were invited to screen the movie for the Senate and Congress.

00:31:53.540 And it got rescheduled after the Trump assassination hearings took over the big chamber there.

00:31:59.300 But we're really hoping to be able to screen this movie.

00:32:03.860 I'm going to write a speech.

00:32:05.640 Okay.

00:32:05.980 I'm going to try to use my leadership and my own voice.

00:32:09.440 And I would only hope that the left and the right can come together.

00:32:14.180 Okay.

00:32:14.860 And to address this issue.

00:32:16.860 And I hope that this movie can inspire people.

00:32:19.740 I hope that politicians on the left and the right will please watch the movie.

00:32:25.280 Okay.

00:32:25.760 Because it touched me.

00:32:27.720 It made me very emotional after I saw the movie.

00:32:31.220 And the movie is very good.

00:32:33.780 It's an edge-of-your-seat thriller.

00:32:36.520 So it's a thriller.

00:32:37.600 It is a little bit difficult to watch because nobody likes to see children that are beaten.

00:32:45.600 Maybe some of those journalists, I guess.

00:32:48.120 Yeah, the director, Mohit, is incredibly creative.

00:32:53.400 He got an A cinema score, which is very hard to get.

00:32:56.420 Only a handful of other movies received that.

00:32:58.880 We have 90% on Rotten Tomatoes.

00:33:01.660 Not surprising, a lot of the critics slammed the movie.

00:33:04.580 All the top critics slammed the movie.

00:33:06.640 What do they say?

00:33:07.300 Like, what is their...

00:33:08.100 It's awful.

00:33:08.540 They said it's just a terrible movie that...

00:33:12.120 Do they bring politics into it, into their critiques?

00:33:15.180 No, they just said that, you know, all of the most popular critics hate the movie.

00:33:21.860 It is the weirdest thing.

00:33:23.340 You know, I, of course, saw Sound of Freedom.

00:33:26.400 And I would compare it to, like, an extended episode of Law & Order SVU or something.

00:33:32.060 Very popular show, been on for decades.

00:33:33.940 It's about a cop who is tracking down, trying to save these children and going after the traffickers.

00:33:40.700 And then he does.

00:33:42.100 And I was like, oh, that was fun.

00:33:43.780 Like, that's a good movie.

00:33:44.620 And it's got a strong message.

00:33:45.740 And it highlights this issue.

00:33:47.780 And, like, Law & Order, almost.

00:33:50.340 I mean, there's no court in it in the same way.

00:33:53.020 But I don't understand why the critics are just like, nope, nope, it's a bad movie.

00:33:56.180 Don't watch it.

00:33:56.840 It's strange.

00:33:58.880 And I'm going back to what I was saying before, where it feels like something happened where the collective IQ just, like, dropped.

00:34:05.440 I don't know what it is.

00:34:06.740 By all means, y'all can figure it out.

00:34:08.440 But how are we at this point where journal...

00:34:11.400 I don't know.

00:34:12.360 I don't know.

00:34:12.560 I think lockdowns accelerated mental decline.

00:34:14.840 But it's even before this.

00:34:16.680 Yeah.

00:34:17.320 Like, around the time of 2015-16, you know, sure, the Large Hadron Collider fried the brains of half the population.

00:34:25.080 I have no idea.

00:34:25.820 Well, that's obvious, yeah.

00:34:27.260 But now we can see this consistently with movies where the critics are like, it's a bad movie, don't watch.

00:34:31.140 And the fans are like, we like it.

00:34:33.080 Now, this is not...

00:34:34.300 The reason why I find this interesting is the audience scores are real.

00:34:38.140 I mean, these are people who watch the movies that day.

00:34:39.600 It was a good movie.

00:34:40.000 What is this detachment that the media, these media personalities who are not well-off wealthy people, for the most part, some of them are, but how is it they all collectively say the movie is bad?

00:34:52.020 I think a lot of them are protecting themselves because a lot of them do these bad things.

00:34:55.360 There was one of the biggest BBC reporters was just arrested for child, you know, imagery.

00:35:03.380 Horrible stuff.

00:35:04.300 We had that CNN local reporter, and I forget what state he was in, just another, the same thing.

00:35:09.440 We were talking about Beetlejuice, the father from Beetlejuice, the original one.

00:35:14.300 He took pictures of underage children.

00:35:15.880 Wait, what?

00:35:16.480 Yeah, Jeffrey Jones, maybe?

00:35:19.680 The actor who played the dad?

00:35:21.820 Yeah, who moved into the house.

00:35:23.560 Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was Jeffrey Jones is his name.

00:35:25.820 I could be wrong.

00:35:26.560 I think that was in 2002 or 2003.

00:35:28.540 I don't think he's in the new Beetlejuice, but I think his character is.

00:35:31.540 But, like, this stuff isn't just hiding in the shadows.

00:35:35.660 It's literally everywhere.

00:35:36.980 And it's organized, like the stuff you're talking about with the border, MS-13.

00:35:41.840 Whoa!

00:35:42.940 I didn't know that about this guy.

00:35:44.520 That was 20 years ago.

00:35:45.580 Was it Jeffrey Jones?

00:35:46.220 Yeah.

00:35:47.360 He was arrested, and he's an offender.

00:35:49.420 Holy crap, this guy's in a ton of movies.

00:35:52.000 Yeah, Ferris Bueller.

00:35:52.720 What?

00:35:53.400 He's in Ferris Bueller.

00:35:54.540 Yeah.

00:35:55.320 Amadeus, Beetlejuice.

00:35:56.980 Mm-hmm.

00:35:58.180 Wow.

00:35:58.620 The Crucible, Stuart Little, Dr. Doolittle 2?

00:36:01.520 Yep.

00:36:01.800 The father from Seventh Heaven.

00:36:03.380 You know, like...

00:36:03.820 What?

00:36:04.380 These people are everywhere.

00:36:06.020 Evil is everywhere.

00:36:06.780 I think that's why a lot of people don't want to do it.

00:36:08.020 Either they want to look away because it's too much to take, or they do this stuff.

00:36:13.360 And they're in every institution, at every level.

00:36:15.400 The reviews from the audience and a lot of the feedback, you know, I'm one of the filmmakers

00:36:21.540 now and a producer and an executive producer on this film, and so I've myself talked to

00:36:28.440 hundreds of people now that have seen the film.

00:36:31.140 Everyone loves the film.

00:36:32.480 As I said, it's a bit hard to watch.

00:36:34.640 This director, by the way, Mohit, I've said he is so creative.

00:36:40.060 I mean, like, he could win an Oscar for this film.

00:36:43.940 It's that good.

00:36:44.780 That's awesome.

00:36:45.140 There are...

00:36:45.900 I'm sorry.

00:36:46.480 I'm sorry.

00:36:47.640 He was in 33 episodes of Deadwood.

00:36:50.300 Hmm.

00:36:50.920 This guy, who was arrested on...

00:36:53.800 2000.

00:36:54.120 In 2001, these charges, he provided various voices over four episodes of Invader Zim,

00:37:02.320 was on the Zeta Project, Justice League...

00:37:04.600 The whole career.

00:37:05.620 He was in Stuart Little.

00:37:07.560 Deadwood, for two years, in 33 episodes, you'd think after something like that, they'd be like,

00:37:12.720 maybe we shouldn't work with this guy and have him around anymore.

00:37:15.400 They like this.

00:37:16.860 Hollywood is messed up, dude.

00:37:18.680 Obviously, it's not everybody, but it's a lot of people.

00:37:21.620 Yeah.

00:37:22.020 It seems to be a lot of people in Hollywood who do it.

00:37:24.540 You know, they're friends with them.

00:37:26.480 They promote it.

00:37:27.280 They put imagery like it in this.

00:37:29.740 You know, going back and watching certain movies, you see there's a lot of dark stuff

00:37:33.460 for children.

00:37:34.840 Is it that reality always was this way?

00:37:38.960 Yes.

00:37:39.140 The internet came and allowed those of critical thinking, reason, and good morals to...

00:37:44.440 No matter how modern we look, we are always going to be barbaric.

00:37:49.120 They always do this stuff.

00:37:50.540 So what I'm saying is, in 1990, there are these people, you know, pedophiles in deep seats

00:37:59.860 of power in media, and they're controlling narratives so that they can keep doing these

00:38:03.800 things.

00:38:03.920 I mean, obviously, Epstein was doing his thing in the 90s, but is that just the reality that

00:38:08.000 the internet comes out and then reasoned moral people are like, hey, wait a minute, what

00:38:11.840 is this?

00:38:12.680 Yeah.

00:38:12.900 When I wrote my story about Alex Rosen, who was on the show, and we talked about he goes

00:38:16.980 around and captures child predators.

00:38:20.480 And something I was thinking about while doing that story is the internet certainly accelerated

00:38:25.300 the ability for really evil people to attack.

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00:39:56.020 Children.

00:39:56.940 But it also allowed people to use internet to get those people.

00:40:00.600 So it's just constantly catching up with it.

00:40:03.040 It's horrible.

00:40:04.340 But at least there is a silver lining that you can use it.

00:40:07.460 Like you're using your voice.

00:40:08.340 You're making a movie.

00:40:09.240 And you're putting it out here to help people understand and bring awareness about.

00:40:13.740 But the internet has certainly allowed.

00:40:15.500 Like you're talking about Facebook.

00:40:16.600 And I said it was an optimistic view you had of it.

00:40:18.180 But Facebook helps promote and disseminate all that stuff.

00:40:22.080 As of this year, there was that other whistleblower who had a congressional hearing

00:40:25.620 talking about how they went out of their way to suppress, you name any Trump talk,

00:40:30.440 January 6th talk, vaccine talk, whatever.

00:40:33.260 But when it came to the child exploitation stuff, there was no, they didn't do anything

00:40:37.620 to stop it.

00:40:38.340 That's why I'm saying like, wow, I wish, I hope you're right with what you're saying,

00:40:42.000 being caught up in that algorithm to get rid of the bad stuff.

00:40:45.380 But as far as like nine months ago, they were still promoting that stuff and doing nothing

00:40:49.660 about it.

00:40:50.480 I think stuff like Meta is a tool for these organized criminals to sell these kids.

00:40:55.860 It is crazy to me that this dude from Beetlejuice was charged with and convicted, I believe.

00:41:02.400 I want to make sure I get it.

00:41:03.180 He's a registered sex offender.

00:41:04.520 And they say that he was faced, he faced further charges in 2004.

00:41:12.680 He was arrested for failing to update his sex offender status.

00:41:15.980 And they just keep booking him.

00:41:17.940 Got jobs.

00:41:19.740 I mean, certainly you can find other actors as there's many people trying to get in the

00:41:24.000 industry.

00:41:24.620 Yep.

00:41:25.240 This is terrifying stuff.

00:41:26.300 And as you look at the Epstein stuff, too, and you just have to wonder.

00:41:29.420 And then you look at, you know, people like Alex Jones and others who have been calling

00:41:33.920 out powerful, pedophile individuals for a long time.

00:41:38.460 And it makes you wonder about the rest of what Alex Jones says.

00:41:41.560 Oh, that's a lot.

00:41:42.160 That's true.

00:41:43.100 Yeah.

00:41:43.320 I mean, because it's weird that he becomes, Alex becomes the leper, right?

00:41:48.120 When it should be this guy who's the leper.

00:41:50.720 But he's not.

00:41:51.480 He's embraced by the elites.

00:41:54.880 Totally bananas.

00:41:55.680 So he pleaded no contest to one charge and not guilty.

00:42:00.420 And let's see.

00:42:01.620 It was a misdemeanor charge dropped following a no contest plea.

00:42:04.980 His attorney emphasized there was no allegation of improper physical contact.

00:42:08.560 His punishment was five years probation counseling and the requirement to register as a sex offender.

00:42:13.300 So I suppose for legal purposes, a no contest pleading is not an admission of guilt.

00:42:18.980 It's I will not fight this, you know, without admitting it.

00:42:22.920 I think it's a California thing.

00:42:24.800 That must be nice.

00:42:25.320 It's crazy that we live in this world.

00:42:27.280 But, you know, outside of all this stuff, too, I don't know if you want to move on to talk about the real estate market and what we're seeing with these cities.

00:42:34.340 But you were also mentioning that you work in real estate and that you said there's a potential debt default that we're seeing these big cities turning to ghost towns.

00:42:45.540 Do you want to explain what you're talking about with that?

00:42:47.640 Sure.

00:42:48.140 Sure.

00:42:49.020 The so right now we you know, we we invest in bonds that have commercial real estate loans as the collateral.

00:42:58.340 So we invest in bonds that have malls, hotels, warehouses and office.

00:43:07.060 These are large mortgages that are 20, 50, 100, 200, 300 million dollars.

00:43:13.120 And so the other day and I've been studying the issue of the border and how it's affected these children.

00:43:21.380 And I do believe when I was reading some of the news about the Venezuelan gangs taking over neighborhoods in Denver.

00:43:32.220 And I was thinking, well, geez, like, where did the migrants go that came across the border?

00:43:38.740 They were being bused and flown to many of the sanctuary cities.

00:43:42.420 And so I'm just really numbers and analytical.

00:43:46.300 And so I went to chat GPT that knows everything, by the way.

00:43:50.980 It's crazy.

00:43:51.720 And I said to chat GPT, I said, tell me the top 20 cities in the United States where the migrants that came across the border were flown and bussed.

00:44:03.240 And it gave me a list of cities.

00:44:04.980 And I looked at it and I was like, holy moly.

00:44:09.400 I was like, 15 of the cities out of the 20 cities where all these migrants were bussed have the most distressed commercial real estate in the country.

00:44:22.780 These are the cities that are in decline.

00:44:27.000 There is a there is such trouble right now in in these Democrat run cities in commercial real estate.

00:44:37.640 There are defaults happening right now on large Class A and Class B office building mortgages that are as bad as during the financial crisis.

00:44:51.880 I'm talking about tens of billions of defaults that are happening right now.

00:44:57.240 Americans don't even know about this.

00:44:59.120 OK, and so you ask me, hey, was there other consequences to all the migration that came in here?

00:45:07.220 And I say absolutely there was that many of these cities like say, let's just talk about one of them and talk about San Francisco.

00:45:16.980 OK, like I'm proud that America led the world in tech innovation.

00:45:23.660 OK, San Francisco is an unbelievable city.

00:45:26.300 OK, rich with culture, diversity, free thinking.

00:45:32.600 I'm in favor of all that type of stuff.

00:45:34.880 OK, very, very innovative in the tech industry.

00:45:38.040 Incredible, incredible city.

00:45:40.160 San Francisco right now is doomed.

00:45:42.520 OK, it's in a death spiral.

00:45:44.660 OK, that the commercial real estate in San Francisco is so distressed that just four or five years ago, the occupancy in San Francisco was 90 percent.

00:45:55.000 OK, right now, there are so many buildings with occupancy went to 60 percent, 50 percent, 40 percent.

00:46:02.520 Do you know what happens when you go under about 70 in an office building?

00:46:06.540 OK, you don't have enough income to pay the mortgage debt anymore.

00:46:10.240 OK, you cannot go below 75 or 70 percent.

00:46:13.380 These are 50, right?

00:46:15.200 Pardon me?

00:46:15.460 Let alone maintenance.

00:46:16.560 No, no.

00:46:16.920 It's a doom loop.

00:46:18.940 So basically, a number of flawed policies.

00:46:24.180 OK, and I didn't really intend to talk about policies in some of these cities.

00:46:30.040 You know, I'm really here to talk about this movie and about protecting and saving children.

00:46:34.560 But some of these things are connected.

00:46:37.620 And so in San Francisco, they made some really big mistakes, in my opinion.

00:46:42.740 Number one, that they decriminalized theft and that you don't even get a ticket if you steal stuff under a thousand bucks.

00:46:51.740 Like, first of all, I can't even believe that.

00:46:54.180 Like, I think that if a kid is 13, 14, 15 years old and they shoplift some gum and some other shit, I think they should call the cops and and make a huge stink out of it.

00:47:06.980 Like, that's the way our culture like, I don't know, maybe I'm an old schooler, but I think that stealing is wrong.

00:47:12.380 And you should make a huge deal out of it.

00:47:14.700 Now, what did that do?

00:47:16.800 That there are pharmacies and CVS like that in San Francisco, all of the retail in the downtown business district right now, because they because of some of these flawed decisions that the city government and the state made.

00:47:32.840 Right.

00:47:33.400 They're closing.

00:47:34.080 They're like, why would we subject our employees to all these peoples that come in and smash and grab stuff?

00:47:39.620 They walk right out of the store.

00:47:40.760 They fill up all shopping carts and trash bags and they walk out.

00:47:44.840 It's like absolute lawlessness.

00:47:46.660 OK, that's one.

00:47:47.900 Two, that their policies about these open dare drug and decriminalizing or not prosecuting for fentanyl and heroin.

00:47:58.620 That's a big deal.

00:47:59.620 OK, they're letting people use drugs like that openly and saying, let them do it like like that's cuckoo.

00:48:05.840 Like that's so dumb.

00:48:07.380 OK, addiction is a huge problem in our country.

00:48:10.540 OK, it's killing people.

00:48:12.620 And so what that did is that invited lots of crime.

00:48:16.260 OK, and and and and and and and homelessness.

00:48:20.040 And so San Francisco has an incredibly, incredibly tough time right now with crime and homelessness.

00:48:26.880 And so what is that doing?

00:48:28.360 It's making the the the larger corporations that lease the office buildings not renew.

00:48:34.840 So office building leases are 10 years.

00:48:38.140 So every year, 10 percent are going to are going to expire.

00:48:42.860 And you know what's happening?

00:48:44.280 Nobody's renewing in San Francisco that these companies are not going to subject their employees to going in that downtown area.

00:48:51.400 That is so bad because they're putting their employees at risk.

00:48:55.820 So some of these cities already had flawed policies, OK, that were putting their cities in decline.

00:49:03.420 They doubled down for some reason and welcomed hundreds of thousands of these migrants into these cities and now are having to support them.

00:49:12.960 And then unfortunately, as the news is clearly reported, many of the migrants are exacerbating the issues with crime because there's really no plan to educate them and train them and give them jobs.

00:49:27.100 Like they're you can't bring migrants in and just give them free housing, OK, because they're going to go out and hustle.

00:49:33.800 And unfortunately, some of them wind up stealing.

00:49:36.020 So everything I just said about San Francisco, like like a third of all a half to a third of all the mortgages on office buildings in San Francisco are underwater.

00:49:47.660 That means that they're worth less than the mortgage debt and they're defaulting left and right.

00:49:51.620 So there are some really, really big consequences going on right now with policies in some of these Democrat cities.

00:49:59.040 Everything I just said about San Francisco, let's go to Philadelphia.

00:50:02.960 I mean, Philadelphia has incredible history going all the way.

00:50:06.020 Hundreds of years in Philadelphia.

00:50:07.480 Philadelphia is a wonderful city.

00:50:08.860 OK, Philadelphia.

00:50:10.100 It just pains me to see all of the videos about the downtown district and all the crime and homelessness and tent cities and drug use.

00:50:20.260 I mean, there are people all hunched over on fentanyl and there's hundreds and hundreds of them.

00:50:26.380 And that the same thing there that nobody's renewing the leases.

00:50:30.360 There's one building on Market Street in there that it was in one of these deals calls a SASB deal.

00:50:36.900 It's a bond deal because the mortgage loan is so big.

00:50:39.240 It's like 250 million or something like that.

00:50:41.320 And so they just make one bond out of one mortgage and they cut it up into A, B, C, D, E, F.

00:50:46.300 OK, that the A is going to lose well over half the money.

00:50:51.020 Every single class is going to get wiped out.

00:50:53.720 So say you've got a $250 million mortgage.

00:50:56.240 It got appraised at like $325 million.

00:50:58.600 And you're like, OK, you think they could get back the $250 million?

00:51:01.160 This one building that I'm talking about right now, we think that it's going to sell for $50 or $60 million.

00:51:07.700 It's going to lose 80% on the mortgage.

00:51:10.180 It's like worthless.

00:51:11.260 Like you don't understand what happens.

00:51:13.680 Like who's going to buy it?

00:51:15.140 Nobody's buying it because right now it's worth zero.

00:51:17.840 That's right.

00:51:18.400 So when when these offices go into decline, OK, when society is unraveling, OK, all of these policies are so bad.

00:51:26.860 It's making real estate like this worthless because unless you have a tenant that's willing to sign up and to go to work in Philadelphia, which you'd have to be out of your mind to go in there.

00:51:38.120 It's like a war zone.

00:51:39.080 That's why we're in West Virginia.

00:51:39.860 It's a war zone right now and it's getting worse every single day.

00:51:43.240 So like, let me let me tell you, just I'll interject.

00:51:46.360 You know, I lived in New York City for a while and the prices were high, but that wasn't what made me leave the city.

00:51:52.340 It was this escalating civil unrest.

00:51:55.840 And so I had seen these protests.

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00:53:26.000 And I thought, man, you combine that with the high cost, I'm going to jump the river.

00:53:34.840 And I went to the Jersey side.

00:53:35.940 I said, it's a little bit cheaper here and I'm away from the mass protests all the time.

00:53:39.380 It's probably better if I'm here.

00:53:41.480 Then a couple bombs were planted on 25th Street and in Jersey City.

00:53:45.700 Some makeshift explosives were planted and blew up.

00:53:48.640 And I thought, things are getting crazy in this country.

00:53:51.780 So I moved to, I immediately then moved to the southern portion of still the New York metro, but this is in Bayonne.

00:54:00.020 And once I, like, with the canoeing escalation of cost and the constant social unrest and what I saw as an inability to, I did not, I saw, I saw escalation.

00:54:14.980 And I'm like, okay, South Jersey.

00:54:18.240 So then I moved down basically to the Philly suburbs.

00:54:20.200 And I thought, I'm on the other side of Philly.

00:54:22.220 We're in a smaller metro.

00:54:24.020 We're in the suburbs.

00:54:25.320 We live in a bunch of trees.

00:54:26.900 The prices are a lot cheaper.

00:54:28.500 There's no riots and protests.

00:54:30.080 Then the George Floyd riots happened.

00:54:32.140 And I thought, okay, well, we're not in Philadelphia.

00:54:34.740 Then the riots crossed the bridge.

00:54:36.080 And I thought, I'm getting out of here.

00:54:40.300 That was a big deal.

00:54:41.480 We started immediately looking for property, which was in western Maryland or West Virginia.

00:54:46.260 And then when the lockdowns happened, we were out.

00:54:48.860 The property is substantially cheaper.

00:54:50.620 And now we're in the middle of nowhere because I don't want to be anywhere near what's going on.

00:54:53.700 And since then, I'm fortunate to say that the, I don't know if you call it my skittishness or my ability to just see the patterns as they're unfolding.

00:55:08.340 Will to survive.

00:55:09.940 Perhaps.

00:55:10.660 But I felt like the paths that were laid out before me in these locations only went to bad places.

00:55:17.320 And I'm like, even in the best case scenario, I'm not going to be happy with the prices as they're jumping and jumping and jumping.

00:55:22.620 Now, my apartment that I lived in when I was in New York, which was $1,950 a month for a two-bedroom, is something, I think it's like $4,000.

00:55:32.300 It's like $4,000.

00:55:33.720 And this is, I think, what is it, seven years, seven, man, yep, maybe eight years later.

00:55:42.700 It's doubled in price.

00:55:44.020 So now we're out far away from all the stuff, but we can see what these cities are like and what's been going on with the crime.

00:55:51.240 I mean, you look at Colorado, San Francisco, and they have the poo department.

00:55:55.460 San Francisco has a poop department.

00:55:57.780 Literally, it's like the fire department, but for spraying down poop on the streets because there's so much of it.

00:56:02.660 And so, you know, anyway, to your point, this is exactly why we're not there anymore.

00:56:08.020 And we're in a building right now.

00:56:09.720 We built from scratch.

00:56:10.920 It is actually amazing.

00:56:11.880 People ask all the time.

00:56:12.560 It's 38 feet in the center, 25-foot sides.

00:56:16.640 You've got large concrete pad.

00:56:18.400 There's an internal structure.

00:56:19.800 The studio that we're in was built internal to a larger building.

00:56:24.380 And we're on this big property in West Virginia.

00:56:26.680 And people are like, you built this from scratch.

00:56:29.480 It's cheaper.

00:56:30.780 It's safer.

00:56:31.960 There's more space.

00:56:33.180 And we don't have to deal with the unrest, the chaos, and the homeless.

00:56:36.140 And that's unfortunate because we did want to build a studio in New Jersey.

00:56:39.400 We would have been there, but the state's mismanaged.

00:56:42.200 The urban areas are horribly mismanaged.

00:56:43.980 And so we said, we're going to invest in West Virginia.

00:56:46.000 Hey, I'll tell you this, West Virginia loves it.

00:56:47.760 Now we're setting up our coffee shop in West Virginia.

00:56:49.800 We're investing in real estate out here.

00:56:51.240 We don't want to be anywhere near these cities and their failed policies.

00:56:53.700 When lockdown started, I was still in New York.

00:56:55.980 I'm from New York.

00:56:57.040 And I was thinking how if they shut down the city, it could get to be like the 70s again.

00:57:02.640 My grandfather was a cop in the city in the 70s, and his stories were just dystopian.

00:57:08.420 The city was on fire constantly.

00:57:09.780 He said he had dead bodies every day.

00:57:12.000 And then people would say, well, the city dies as it comes back.

00:57:15.040 And I'd be like, well, yeah, that city came back.

00:57:16.840 But with the policies that are happening now that you're talking about, and they were busting

00:57:20.620 in all these people, I don't know how you dig yourself out of the hole.

00:57:23.560 How does a city get out of that?

00:57:26.000 They just need to change course.

00:57:27.720 I mean, I think that some of these, again, I don't blame the Democrats for some of their

00:57:39.060 ideology to try to be kind to people, help people, give people opportunity, and give

00:57:44.580 them services.

00:57:45.620 Because I have a big heart myself.

00:57:47.080 I'm going to pull the mic up a little bit.

00:57:47.900 I'm sorry.

00:57:48.620 I have a big heart myself.

00:57:51.040 It's just that some of those policies, in order to execute them, have had very, very

00:57:58.560 great difficulty.

00:58:01.040 And so defunding the police in some of these cities, I mean, it really is not a good idea

00:58:07.260 at all.

00:58:08.320 And so it's really caused so much crime.

00:58:11.720 I mean, look at St. Louis.

00:58:13.040 St. Louis was a great city.

00:58:14.740 The downtown St. Louis is in such trouble.

00:58:18.100 And we trade the commercial real estate debt.

00:58:20.480 Do you know what it did?

00:58:21.140 It made all the office buildings in the suburbs worth more.

00:58:25.340 And so there's a trend right now where, because I'm just measuring things.

00:58:29.480 I'm like, what is outlook for certain asset classes that I'm trading?

00:58:35.720 Like, so in office, I'm like, well, suburban office is an asset class.

00:58:40.140 Then there's the downtown market in the asset class.

00:58:42.420 And then I rank things by whether each of these cities are Democrat or Republican controlled.

00:58:48.360 And so unfortunately, I'm just a math and numbers guy.

00:58:52.020 I predict if things are going to go up or if I predict if things are going to go down.

00:58:56.420 And the reality is, and I'm not the only one, like every smart guy that trades these commercial

00:59:02.500 mortgage bonds agrees with me, that the policies in those Democrat controlled cities and the

00:59:09.460 outlook in many of the cities that I mentioned, Denver, I mean, St. Louis, Philly, Chicago is in

00:59:16.940 serious, serious trouble, okay, that the outlook as well in those cities is negative.

00:59:22.660 So the question is, how do you short them?

00:59:26.200 Actually-

00:59:26.640 I'm only half kidding.

00:59:27.680 Yeah, no, there is the ability, just like in the big short in the movie, and that had

00:59:34.640 discussed how people had shorted these derivatives that are all connected to these bonds that

00:59:38.560 we trade, there is a market in the commercial mortgage-backed securities to short some of

00:59:45.740 these structures that I'm trading right now.

00:59:48.200 And some people, in fact, right now have very, very big shorts on.

00:59:52.440 Some very big famous people are shorting the deals that have very heavy office concentrations,

00:59:58.840 and they're betting that it's going to continue to get worse.

01:00:01.620 So it's funny that you pointed that out, but what we've got, you know, during the lockdowns

01:00:08.080 in New York, these buildings became ghost towns, as it were.

01:00:11.540 I mean, people weren't going to work, so the buildings were vacant, basically.

01:00:14.920 For the smaller restaurants that were on the first floor of many of these taller buildings,

01:00:20.840 maybe not even super tall, but maybe you get a building that's like four or five stories,

01:00:24.300 first floor is going to be a restaurant.

01:00:25.380 They've got $20,000 to $30,000 worth of food product that they have to sell before it expires.

01:00:31.140 This is why restaurants have specials, because they've got to move that product.

01:00:34.100 When they get locked down, the food's spoiled.

01:00:36.080 They can't reopen.

01:00:37.340 You have to buy another $30,000 worth of goods.

01:00:40.080 You've already lost.

01:00:40.840 You couldn't sell that.

01:00:41.760 Now you're in the hole, so a lot of them just went out of business.

01:00:44.340 What happens to a building that is, I don't know, 10 stories?

01:00:49.120 When it becomes vacant, nobody buys it.

01:00:51.200 But have we seen, I mean, I've seen in other countries abandoned skyscrapers,

01:00:56.140 but what is New York going to look like?

01:00:58.260 What is San Francisco going to look like when you have abandoned skyscrapers?

01:01:02.040 Do they start to fall apart?

01:01:03.140 Do the windows break?

01:01:04.100 Yeah, that's a good question.

01:01:05.740 There's a great example in St. Louis.

01:01:09.700 AT&T had this one building.

01:01:12.280 It's a huge building.

01:01:13.640 It's like 30, 35 stories tall.

01:01:15.820 They took over the whole building.

01:01:17.680 Their lease expired, and they said, you know what?

01:01:19.880 Someone owned the building, and I think they're releasing it,

01:01:23.240 and then they said, you know, we don't need the space.

01:01:25.380 We're going to consolidate somewhere else.

01:01:27.120 They haven't been able to release the building.

01:01:29.680 This building that was worth hundreds of millions of dollars,

01:01:33.120 you know what it sold for several years ago?

01:01:36.560 Five million dollars, okay?

01:01:39.040 Like five million dollars.

01:01:40.380 Wow.

01:01:40.640 And the problem is that the expenses, the way I understand it,

01:01:44.640 on this building are about five million a year.

01:01:46.480 So somebody paid five million, and now it's costing them five million a year.

01:01:51.060 It's already been three or four years, and they're way upside down.

01:01:53.540 They're probably going to give it back again.

01:01:54.940 So to answer your question, yes, there are buildings that are literally worthless

01:01:59.740 because there's no demand.

01:02:01.380 You just need the demand.

01:02:03.120 You know, something that really freaked me out is there are these channels on Instagram

01:02:07.100 that they're urban explorers, and they go into abandoned buildings.

01:02:12.660 One of the abandoned buildings was a food court in Chicago in, like, a seven-story building

01:02:20.380 downtown, like, a very prominent area.

01:02:23.960 And I remember I see this, you know, Instagram suggests they recommend this clip,

01:02:28.300 and it's, like, you know, inside a skyscraper or inside a building in Chicago.

01:02:31.660 And then I recognize where they are, and I'm like, holy crap.

01:02:36.680 Wow.

01:02:37.200 I mean, 15 years ago, I was eating Sparrow there.

01:02:41.560 And this is not – this is the city.

01:02:44.200 This is the heart of the city.

01:02:46.040 That was freaky to see.

01:02:47.680 I could not believe that in such a dense area this could happen.

01:02:51.300 But, you know, outside of the fact that – I should say outside of whether or not a business

01:02:57.180 can operate, the root cause, as you mentioned, is how bad these cities have become.

01:03:01.200 And you've got these videos out of Chicago where people are – there's a video of a

01:03:04.400 guy, he's just shooting into the window of department stores, these mass mobs, these

01:03:08.000 flash mobs are raiding these department stores.

01:03:11.220 Nobody wants to be there.

01:03:12.540 I remember during the 2020 riots in Chicago, it was a big deal.

01:03:17.040 I can't remember exactly what happened, but something happened where there was mass

01:03:19.980 protests, and the city, I think they raised the bridges to keep the protests, to push

01:03:27.300 them in the direction of residential neighborhoods.

01:03:29.680 And aldermen, who are basically the politicians representing certain neighbors in the city,

01:03:33.040 were freaking out, being like, you have a financial district in the city, a commercial

01:03:38.820 district, where these rioters are headed, and you push them into people's homes by doing

01:03:43.620 this.

01:03:44.840 How would you even – how could you even end up living in a residential area knowing that

01:03:48.920 these kinds of things are happening?

01:03:51.100 I'm glad I'm in West Virginia now.

01:03:53.120 I'm glad I'm out of New York.

01:03:54.340 What happens next?

01:03:56.060 I mean –

01:03:56.400 Right.

01:03:56.660 So with everything you're seeing, what does happen next?

01:04:00.740 Yeah, there's been – your story is very similar.

01:04:07.180 There's been – I also trade bonds backed by residential mortgage loans, and although that

01:04:14.220 market's very healthy right now, really because there's a housing shortage.

01:04:18.920 And in part caused by some of the work at home and COVID, you know, that the Fed lowered

01:04:25.680 interest rates to very low levels.

01:04:27.420 It made houses very, very affordable.

01:04:29.900 Most consumers have already refinanced their homes at all-time record low rates.

01:04:35.260 That, in part, is actually making the housing shortage a little bit worse because people

01:04:39.940 are very hesitant to move.

01:04:41.900 Because if you move right now, your mortgage payment just to move into the same house would

01:04:47.900 go up 30%.

01:04:48.740 So forget about upgrading.

01:04:50.800 So a lot of people don't really want to move.

01:04:52.560 They're happy where they are.

01:04:53.720 And that, you know, created less turnover.

01:04:56.640 Buying and selling is what turnover is.

01:04:58.660 And – but to talk about your story about how you made the decision to have a different

01:05:06.040 life somewhere else, there's a migration happening that also affects our analysis of

01:05:11.600 what the commercial properties are worth.

01:05:13.820 There's a lot of migration coming out of California, coming out of Illinois, coming out of the Northeast.

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01:06:49.260 Going to other states like Florida and Texas, and there are Democrats and Republicans that

01:06:56.640 are migrating.

01:06:57.280 So there's a big migration happening across the country right now.

01:07:00.680 They're going, you know, some people are moving because of the taxes.

01:07:04.520 The taxes are very high at the state level at some of these states.

01:07:07.600 They're moving because of some of the policies that I talked about a little bit earlier.

01:07:11.740 One of the best business guys in the world, Ken Griffin and Citadel.

01:07:16.520 I mean, the guy trades 40% of every trade on the stock market right now.

01:07:20.720 So he's built the best software in the world.

01:07:23.240 It's usurped the New York Stock Exchange.

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01:07:55.260 that's so innovative in finance.

01:07:56.960 And they pissed him off.

01:07:58.320 He got pissed off being there and he uprooted himself out of Chicago and he moved to Miami

01:08:04.020 where I am.

01:08:04.800 And he just moved his whole headquarters into Miami.

01:08:07.160 And Miami's booming right now.

01:08:09.420 There's so many people moving to Miami.

01:08:11.360 We've got newcomers where I live and they're all coming from California.

01:08:15.300 They're coming from New York.

01:08:16.760 They're coming from Massachusetts, Maine, Connecticut.

01:08:20.900 They're coming from everywhere.

01:08:21.960 These big migrations you're talking about going to Texas or going to Florida, they look good

01:08:27.280 right now.

01:08:27.660 Do you see a potential for that kind of turning around and being a bad thing later on?

01:08:32.140 If people bring their policies that they still vote the same way or what are you seeing?

01:08:37.960 Yeah.

01:08:38.400 I mean, you know, these types of trends when they start, they run for quite some time.

01:08:43.420 So I don't really think that there'd be a lot of things that could change.

01:08:47.800 Look at, I mean, Elon, you know, certainly one of the smartest men on earth.

01:08:51.860 He's so innovative in the different companies that Elon built that, I mean, Elon picked up and said, I've had enough for lots of reasons with California.

01:09:02.320 And now he moved out.

01:09:03.500 So, like, you know, he's not happy with California.

01:09:07.560 Like, he moved twice.

01:09:09.260 Yeah.

01:09:09.900 Didn't he, like, move and move back?

01:09:11.720 Yeah.

01:09:11.900 And then I think he just moved the other headquarters, right?

01:09:13.740 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:09:14.160 And actually, I mean, I would make a plea right now to Elon.

01:09:18.080 And I'd ask Elon because Elon had offered when Sound of Freedom came out, and Elon is an incredible advocate for free speech, okay?

01:09:30.760 And when Sound of Freedom came out, he saw that the media was attacking Sound of Freedom.

01:09:36.120 I mean, there were 30 or 40 articles that had said QAnon and right-wing and propaganda and, like, the left just attacked Sound of Freedom.

01:09:46.360 The same thing happened with Sound of Freedom.

01:09:48.420 The theaters were trying to block it.

01:09:50.400 They were reducing the theaters like what's happening to us right now.

01:09:53.540 Elon saw that, and Elon Musk made a tweet, okay?

01:09:58.880 And he said, I've built a movie streaming platform that could stream Sound of Freedom just like Amazon for video on demand.

01:10:07.540 And I won't charge a penny, and I could stream this.

01:10:11.560 And at that time, the producers, including my very good friend Sean Wolvington, who was one of the producers on Sound of Freedom, for whatever the reasons were, they decided not to do it.

01:10:21.160 I would invite Elon right now.

01:10:23.480 I mean, I'm the producer here.

01:10:25.500 And tell him that when we, and in our theaters, that we would love to work with X, a champion of free speech.

01:10:33.900 And we could stream.

01:10:35.500 This would be one of the first major feature films that we would stream on his platform.

01:10:40.440 He did it for Walsh's movie.

01:10:41.740 On X.

01:10:42.320 I think he's brought one or two documentaries now.

01:10:45.460 And so we would love to work with him and have the video on demand and bring it through X, a champion of free speech.

01:10:56.040 Because I do think that right now we're dealing with censorship.

01:11:00.320 We're dealing with the media that doesn't like this.

01:11:02.600 A lot of these things you guys are talking about, which is just nonsense.

01:11:05.360 I mean, our movie is about protecting and saving kids, which really, like, this topic, like, what is more important than this right now?

01:11:14.800 And honestly, like, I, you know, we might have gotten off track a little bit just talking about migration and the city politics and cities that are going down.

01:11:23.380 But unfortunately, some of the issue with these children, it is unfortunately all connected to the flawed policy of migration and letting too many migrants into our country without the proper amount of controls.

01:11:38.700 Okay.

01:11:38.920 So that's one of the things that caused some of the exploitation of children.

01:11:42.700 And it's a little bit about, you know, what our, what our movie, what our movie is about.

01:11:47.320 You, I think you were talking about something else and interrupted me, but I, I, you know, this movie is so creative.

01:11:55.260 Okay.

01:11:55.840 Let me just tell you, the movie is, is very, very good.

01:11:59.600 That there are dream sequences in this movie that have Jesus, okay, that he's dealing with, with an awful situation held by his captors.

01:12:13.140 Okay.

01:12:13.620 So the children that, that they're abused and they're beaten and it's a very dark, uh, almost dungeon, uh, like a place that they're being held in a basement with orange dimly lit lights.

01:12:28.840 And they're all packed into a room and sleeping together at night.

01:12:32.320 I mean, it's really awful conditions.

01:12:34.720 And so that Jesus, the hero in the story, he always dreamed of being a soccer player.

01:12:41.540 He thought, as you'll see in the movie, that he was going to America to go to soccer camp.

01:12:47.800 And the trafficker showed him a pamphlet and said, Hey, we're going to bring you to this soccer camp.

01:12:52.000 And so part of the story showed him dreaming of getting to go to a soccer camp.

01:12:56.240 And what happened, it turned into a nightmare and the film is so creative that our director Mohit, okay, that there's dream sequences that were Jesus, because in order to deal with what he had to deal with there, he kind of comes out of his body and he starts dreaming of being a soccer superstar.

01:13:17.980 And so these dream sequences have him like in London with a hundred thousand fans and he's dribbling, uh, um, uh, and playing soccer on a professional level.

01:13:29.260 And, uh, and the whole crowd is cheering for him.

01:13:32.140 And instead of all these dark colors, the whole screen in the theater, it lights up and there's hope.

01:13:38.300 Okay.

01:13:39.120 So like this film should win an Oscar, in my opinion, like it is so good.

01:13:43.480 These dream sequences, it gives the, the, Jesus, uh, a break from what he's going through.

01:13:49.580 And do you know who needs a break to in this movie is the audience.

01:13:52.680 Okay.

01:13:53.140 Cause then it lets the audience have hope and all the colors on the screen change.

01:13:57.260 And then like that, bam, it's back into a very, very harsh world for these children.

01:14:03.900 And, uh, so the movie is rich.

01:14:07.060 Okay.

01:14:07.640 It's rich.

01:14:08.360 The story is very rich.

01:14:09.600 There's another dream sequence, um, of a shaman character.

01:14:13.720 The shaman character is part of a lot of the Mexican culture for them.

01:14:17.300 You know, a lot of the Mexicans, they believe in, in, uh, Catholicism.

01:14:21.380 And they also believe in, uh, a long history of, uh, of, uh, the day of the dead.

01:14:27.540 They, they kind of worship, uh, all of their ancestors that came before them.

01:14:32.460 And this director Mohit also to make the story rich with imagery, uh, weaved, uh, character,

01:14:40.060 a shaman character that appears and he appears to protect the child.

01:14:44.440 He prays for the child in this movie.

01:14:46.800 He says, Lord, and this is a scene.

01:14:50.500 It's a flashback to his birth.

01:14:52.100 He says, Lord, protect this child and help him to achieve his destiny.

01:14:59.480 And you know what the destiny is of, of, of Jesus, his destiny, even though he was a mute.

01:15:06.320 Okay.

01:15:06.800 This story has the hero that can't speak.

01:15:10.580 Okay.

01:15:11.220 And, and, and exacerbating the issue of being captured and put into slavery.

01:15:16.680 His destiny was to stand up with courage and fight back against his captors.

01:15:22.780 And at the end of this story, okay, that Jesus, he found his voice.

01:15:28.840 Okay.

01:15:29.400 And this is, it's very emotional in our story.

01:15:31.540 And, and he screams and he had had enough and never in his life had the hero in this story

01:15:37.280 ever spoken one word.

01:15:39.080 Okay.

01:15:39.600 And he screams because he had had enough.

01:15:42.420 And some of the police that were onto what was happening, we're lurking around.

01:15:46.280 And it was his scream that alerted the police and they brought them in and they saved all

01:15:52.380 of the children.

01:15:53.300 And in this story, Jesus found his voice.

01:15:57.280 He inspired me to have a voice.

01:16:00.360 Okay.

01:16:01.220 And to stick up for all these kids.

01:16:03.320 How, how, how aware were you of all this stuff before you saw the movie?

01:16:07.140 Oh boy.

01:16:07.960 I mean, I'm real much smarter on it right now after, you know, it's been since about March.

01:16:13.020 Um, I saw the movie, as I said, I was very emotional.

01:16:16.640 Um, I thought the movie was also excellent.

01:16:18.760 Like I'm saying right now, um, I was touched by it.

01:16:21.680 I talked to the director for quite some time.

01:16:23.780 And then right away I said, I'm going to support you.

01:16:26.460 Since then, I've learned quite a bit about child trafficking in both the, in, in corporations.

01:16:32.060 Unfortunately, they're using vendors that employ child labor.

01:16:36.140 I've learned quite a bit about the border issue, like we've talked about here, where

01:16:39.720 there's a clear problem where unaccompanied binaries came into the United States and they're

01:16:44.780 now being used in the sex trade.

01:16:47.440 And so, um, the, uh, but the, but, but yeah, I mean, as I was saying that the, the story

01:16:55.040 is, is, uh, it's very creative and, uh, you know, I really enjoy a lot of the dream sequences

01:17:00.700 and it's very inspiring at the end of the story when the children are saved.

01:17:05.960 And, uh, so I, I really recommend that people go and, and see the movie.

01:17:09.860 I hope we overcome some of these issues right now, uh, with the theaters.

01:17:13.040 And I'd make a plea to all of the theaters out there to please consider, uh, how important

01:17:18.420 this message is.

01:17:19.940 And what's the, what's the, what's the remedy, right?

01:17:24.120 So we, we learn of this crisis in the film, what can people do and where does this message

01:17:29.740 lead?

01:17:30.260 Is this a voting thing?

01:17:32.040 Yeah.

01:17:32.420 Well, well, first of all, I mean, as far as our film goes right now, I mean, you know,

01:17:37.060 part of why, you know, I, I came here today is that I'm trying to raise awareness on the

01:17:41.920 topic.

01:17:42.280 I think that protecting our, there's nothing more important than protecting kids in this

01:17:45.760 country.

01:17:46.020 Honestly, it's like the kids are our future.

01:17:48.420 And, uh, so, so that, that I hope that people could understand what this issue is and learn

01:17:54.140 more about it.

01:17:54.880 I mean, that's one.

01:17:55.580 Number two, I would really recommend that people go and see the movie.

01:17:58.120 You will learn so much and you will feel what I felt.

01:18:01.460 Okay.

01:18:01.920 And so if people could go and see this movie, um, and then I think that people should demand

01:18:06.760 to be able to see the movie and tell their theaters and speak up and say, you know, we,

01:18:11.620 we, unfortunately they've cut us out of a lot of the cities.

01:18:14.160 So we're in a lot of the major cities.

01:18:15.580 So the people that live in a lot of the major cities now should go and see the movie and

01:18:19.880 fill up the seats and, uh, and speak up.

01:18:22.620 So, um, I mean, I think that's one, that's one, that's one step here.

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01:18:36.180 by it and then my hope was now that they've been affected by a good piece of film, they

01:18:41.140 can go enact some change.

01:18:42.560 And I've seen a lot of them raise hell, you know, here and there, I don't know how much

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01:20:18.200 I mean, I would certainly welcome Kamala.

01:20:23.080 I would love to meet Kamala.

01:20:24.560 Everyone should see her.

01:20:25.580 That's what I'm saying.

01:20:26.260 I'd love to meet Kamala.

01:20:27.500 I'd love to arrange a screening for her and all of her constituents.

01:20:32.040 I'd love to offer to have a screening for President Trump and ask him whether or not he would

01:20:38.140 like to arrange a screening.

01:20:39.340 I could do it at his New Jersey Country Club.

01:20:43.220 I know that he screens Sound of Freedom.

01:20:45.340 But I think that the first step, like this movie is a call to action.

01:20:51.300 I believe that the movie is a call to action and it can create change.

01:20:55.760 But, well, so what is the action?

01:20:57.400 Um, I think that new legislation should be enacted to try to help and protect these kids

01:21:05.180 and to change some of these flawed border policies and to create a system that would

01:21:09.540 vet all of these sponsors and to make sure there are weekly checks to make sure that these

01:21:14.680 children are protected.

01:21:15.980 In the primary season for the Democratic Party back in, I think it was 2019, might have been

01:21:20.180 2020, every single candidate said that they would decriminalize border crossings.

01:21:24.460 So this, this means if you decriminalize border crossings, you, you don't stop the individuals.

01:21:32.480 I mean, if they get stopped, it's a, it's a, give me your information, please.

01:21:35.680 It's a civil, civil infraction, which means you'll have a hearing at some later date.

01:21:40.300 That's what we've been seeing under the Biden administration.

01:21:43.960 Uh, the, the, the people who cross the border illegally, you know, I mean, this is, this is

01:21:49.140 the challenge of, of politics right now.

01:21:50.640 When trying to figure out how we stop this, the reality here is Donald Trump had a policy

01:21:55.260 while he was president, which the media referred to as family separation.

01:21:59.340 The reality of that is if an adult man has a young child with him, we don't know if it's

01:22:05.360 a child predator or the parent.

01:22:07.500 And so the policy is intending to, I don't know whether you can say it was effective or

01:22:12.080 not, but the general idea is, okay, we need to take this kid aside and ask this child who

01:22:16.060 they are, what's the, who's their parent and make sure they're actually with their parent

01:22:20.580 because we're trying to stop trafficking.

01:22:22.540 When Trump tried to do this, they said that he was just separating children from their parents

01:22:26.120 as a, as a, as a threat to terrify people who might come.

01:22:29.920 Now we have under the Biden administration, when someone crosses the border, they get their

01:22:34.280 name written down and sent on their merry way.

01:22:36.300 We know from Dr. Phil of all people, not a conservative guy, that some of the, that there's

01:22:41.780 many children who have numbers on their arms, which are phone numbers for child sex traffickers

01:22:47.040 and CBP just says, go on, go on with it.

01:22:51.200 Have fun, I guess.

01:22:52.640 And you've had CBP agents admit they know that these children are going to these rings.

01:22:57.060 So the challenge, I suppose, and perhaps the reason why you've gotten the pushback and

01:23:02.180 the reason why they take it out, they're taking it out of these theaters is it's a

01:23:06.720 motivating factor against the democratic party for those that are paying attention to what's

01:23:10.840 going on.

01:23:11.660 You know, for the longest time, the media said that Kamala Harris was the border czar.

01:23:15.800 Now they're vehemently denying she was ever the borders are.

01:23:18.520 They, no, that's not sure.

01:23:19.280 It's not a real title.

01:23:20.100 Well, it's never, it's never a real title.

01:23:21.620 It was a colloquial term to represent that she was supposed to deal with the crisis of the

01:23:25.620 security crisis at the border, which she did not do.

01:23:28.480 Donald Trump is the border candidate.

01:23:29.940 Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, Democrats, they're not.

01:23:33.620 When I look at the pushback your film gets and Sound of Freedom, my conclusion is not

01:23:38.920 that they feel politically vulnerable by the, by this problem being brought to the forefront,

01:23:43.620 but that they want the problem to persist.

01:23:46.900 There's a lot of arguments for why that may be.

01:23:48.740 Oh boy, that's, that's awful.

01:23:50.640 Well, one of the, one of the arguments is, uh, the United States is below replacement, uh,

01:23:55.720 rate fertility, the, the, the, uh, fractional reserve, uh, monetary system that we have

01:24:01.880 cannot be sustained unless jobs.

01:24:04.240 We have job numbers going up.

01:24:06.040 You can't add jobs that people to take jobs.

01:24:08.920 So if, if replacement fertility is down, we're looking at in a generation or two serious recession

01:24:16.100 or depression repercussions when the job numbers will, you literally cannot increase there.

01:24:22.680 You're going to get your quarterly jobs report or whatever.

01:24:24.420 It's going to, you're going to be down a hundred, a hundred, a hundred because there aren't people.

01:24:28.060 So what we get then is the Democrat policy of just let them all come.

01:24:32.100 We need these jobs numbers filled.

01:24:34.200 Give them work permits.

01:24:35.520 There's a question of why, uh, the government is giving work permits to these

01:24:40.200 unvetted random people who are crossing illegally.

01:24:44.040 It boosts the numbers.

01:24:45.540 It boosts the job numbers.

01:24:47.640 Now, the fascinating thing is you're mentioning these buildings.

01:24:50.040 It's all connected.

01:24:51.740 Nobody wants to work in these cities anymore.

01:24:53.880 The cities are, the buildings are collapsing.

01:24:55.740 Vacancy rates are going up.

01:24:57.100 These buildings won't be able to sustain themselves.

01:24:59.000 There's going to be an economic crisis that is not going to be alleviated by just flooding

01:25:02.860 the system with more potential workers when there's no jobs.

01:25:05.520 So you need, you need a functioning economy with real growth and you need the people to

01:25:08.840 work those jobs.

01:25:09.600 And it seems like we're not going to be able to have either.

01:25:12.140 So when I look at, to bring it back to your film and how it's all connected, I think there's

01:25:18.360 a really obvious reason why this incentive freedom are, are, are blocked.

01:25:22.480 If the American people are aware of what the border being open brings, then the American

01:25:27.800 people vote against those who have stated in the past several years, they want it to be

01:25:33.220 a civil infraction, not a criminal violation to enter this country outside of one of our

01:25:38.920 ports of entry.

01:25:40.120 If that's the case, and it is, I mean, every single Democratic candidate raised their hand

01:25:44.540 saying this was their policy.

01:25:46.220 What we're looking, I mean, even the moderate ones, what we're looking at now is if you vote

01:25:52.620 Democrat, the numbers will likely increase.

01:25:55.620 Perhaps you will see more non-citizens in your community centers, in your schools, they

01:26:01.320 will need to find housing for them.

01:26:02.920 Perhaps these abandoned skyscrapers will turn into migrant housing.

01:26:06.960 Hotels already have.

01:26:08.360 New York does it.

01:26:09.060 New York does it.

01:26:09.760 Luxury hotels are turning into this.

01:26:11.820 So the end result is people watching City of Dreams or Sound of Freedom, ultimately, it's

01:26:17.200 a, it's a, it's a positive pressure for Republicans and Donald Trump to come into office and say,

01:26:22.140 we need security at the border.

01:26:24.260 And maybe you still want large migration, but it can't be at this level because you'll

01:26:29.160 have to vet the people coming in and making sure these children are not being trafficked

01:26:32.700 and are victims.

01:26:33.740 Yeah.

01:26:33.840 If you're looking around America and you feel like your country's suffering and diseased

01:26:38.220 and you go to the border, it's like you're looking at the skin of the country and there's

01:26:41.900 the lesions and you're like, oh, this is where the problem is starting.

01:26:44.500 One of them, because it's just collapsing at the border.

01:26:47.900 I have a letter, it's published in one of my articles at Scanner, at scnr.com, that

01:26:52.460 I got from Kerry Lake from a patrol officer who's like, they're just, they don't care

01:26:56.640 what's happening here.

01:26:57.300 Everyone's coming through and we're just sending them out into the country.

01:26:59.820 We're giving them flights.

01:27:01.120 And he's like, I'm just told to do it, you know?

01:27:03.340 And he's, these people are really concerned.

01:27:05.020 I really do think it has to do with population collapse.

01:27:08.520 You, you, you, like I talk about all the time, you go back to the 2000s.

01:27:10.900 2000s, um, several reports showed that in the 2000s, fertility among conservatives was

01:27:15.700 2.01 and among liberals was 1.43.

01:27:19.240 So we were averaging around like one, what is it like 1.8 or 1.9 below replacement.

01:27:24.500 That means in a generation when, you know, 20 years is a long time, you get a lot of retirements

01:27:30.140 in that period, there will be less new workers entering and more exiting.

01:27:34.680 So what happens with COVID, I'll tell you, I'll give you this example, um, local casino,

01:27:39.860 you know, Charlestown races, they used to have, uh, so Saturday, I think, I think it

01:27:44.500 might be a Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

01:27:45.780 I'm not sure, but Friday, Saturday, for sure.

01:27:47.180 They have the horse races and they're fun.

01:27:48.840 You pick the horse with the silliest name.

01:27:50.240 If it wins, woohoo.

01:27:51.100 Or you can say show or place or whatever you want to do.

01:27:53.980 You can do some pretty crazy bets on the horse track and you could bet 10 cents.

01:27:58.600 It's, it's just, it's fun, but they had a restaurant and the restaurant had cascade

01:28:02.780 seating where you would order food, sit down with your friends, and then you could go up

01:28:07.580 to the counter and say, give me the, give me a dollar on, you know, you know, goofy

01:28:11.120 goober, the horse or whatever.

01:28:12.840 Then you'd eat food.

01:28:13.800 That's all gone.

01:28:15.100 And I asked, uh, the staff there, this is like one of the best attractions.

01:28:20.380 Kids are allowed to come.

01:28:21.540 So the parents can bring their kids to the racetrack to have dinner.

01:28:25.120 Why did you guys close?

01:28:26.760 And they said, we can't get the staff to reopen.

01:28:29.000 We don't have the people to do it.

01:28:31.080 I said, well, okay.

01:28:32.140 I mean, the jobs are rebounding.

01:28:33.400 Certainly there are people who need jobs.

01:28:34.640 And they said, no, no, it's that everybody retired.

01:28:38.180 So they also had poker dealers.

01:28:40.120 This was another big issue.

01:28:41.800 How come you guys went from 50 tables 10 years ago to nine tables now?

01:28:48.460 Well, it, the big portion of that is too many casinos are opening.

01:28:54.160 And this is a whole other story about social degradation.

01:28:56.500 But they said, uh, the real reason we dropped so many tables is because the dealers all retired.

01:29:01.180 And I said, you can't find new dealers.

01:29:03.000 Nope.

01:29:03.260 So what we're seeing now is with COVID, there was a wave of retirements.

01:29:09.640 A lot of people who are at retirement age or who are nearing it and maybe want to take an early retirement decided, look, I got two years to retirement.

01:29:18.600 They locked everything down.

01:29:20.220 I'm not working anyway.

01:29:22.000 I'm done.

01:29:22.800 I think it's happening everywhere.

01:29:24.360 I know so many parents in this area who are having trouble finding a pediatrician because every pediatrician is either closed or not taking anymore.

01:29:32.240 That's right.

01:29:33.160 And that's really crazy.

01:29:35.160 The other component of this too is what I refer to as our managerial crisis.

01:29:38.560 A lot of people on the right refer to this as DEI.

01:29:42.320 The problem that we're facing, they say it's a diversity, equity, inclusion is what's like these planes and the wheels falling off or whatever and the failed mechanics.

01:29:51.700 I think it's not about DEI.

01:29:54.240 I think DEI is an effort to alleviate the managerial crisis.

01:29:58.140 Older individuals, boomers, people who are in their 60s, once COVID hit said, I'm done.

01:30:05.640 And we're talking about a chief mechanic perhaps.

01:30:08.420 The younger guys don't know how to operate and run this stuff and they don't have enough staff to replenish when all these people left with expertise.

01:30:14.540 So now what they're saying is, well, we need to bring on new people, diversity.

01:30:22.960 And don't get me wrong, there's a difference between like certainly if there is someone who's capable to do the job and you don't hire them and said go for the diversity individual, you are contributing to it as well.

01:30:31.860 I think the real issue is that older people are leaving in larger numbers, they're taking their skills with them, and there aren't enough younger people to fill these jobs.

01:30:42.540 I think the system doesn't want to admit it.

01:30:44.920 I think the government doesn't want to admit we do not have enough children.

01:30:49.000 And right now, let's take a look.

01:30:51.160 Let's ask the question, if there is no mass migration, unchecked open borders is what we're looking at, and children are getting trafficked because of it.

01:30:59.060 Why won't they deport the criminals?

01:31:00.700 Why won't they deport these people who have committed murders?

01:31:05.080 Where do we end up in 20 years with, I think, average fertility right now in the United States is like 1.7, or it might be 1.6.

01:31:12.640 For every two people that leave in the next 20 years, only one and a half come in.

01:31:18.440 A guarantee that our jobs numbers will go down.

01:31:23.720 We will have a recession and possibly a depression.

01:31:27.060 Democrat policy is then open the doors and let everyone come because we need people.

01:31:32.960 The end result is we don't know who these people are.

01:31:36.000 We can't vet them.

01:31:37.220 This is what happens when you panic.

01:31:39.040 We're getting now these crises in various cities.

01:31:43.120 Local communities are extremely upset.

01:31:45.040 The machine then attempts to tamp down on anybody who speaks out against this because the machine is dying.

01:31:51.380 So if we, I mean.

01:31:53.720 Yeah, I'd want to see, I'd want to see numbers that would back up some of that, you know, over like a five to 10 year period.

01:32:02.860 Because I think that we already have natural migration that's been coming in.

01:32:07.700 The problem is, is that it accelerated to such an extent over the past four years.

01:32:12.560 So you just can't.

01:32:13.580 We've always had a very logical migration that was all coming into the United States.

01:32:18.620 A million per year.

01:32:19.240 That's what I'm saying.

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01:33:45.980 That we'd have to really study all that data to see what the fall off is that you're talking about.

01:33:54.680 I mean, the you know, the the wave of the migrants that came in, you know, 13 million or whatever the number is of both the legal and the illegal that that's caused some of the problem with harming the children.

01:34:09.420 And, you know, for sure, because that the yeah, because a lot of people that have come in, they don't have jobs.

01:34:15.640 You know, some of them are they're minors, like we've said, but but they're causing social unrest across a lot of the cities.

01:34:22.840 They're also they're also creating a burden on many of the cities.

01:34:27.880 I mean, there's so many programs right now that are doling out 20,000 bucks, you know, per family or per person for free rent, free.

01:34:37.340 You mentioned New York City earlier.

01:34:39.780 That's like that right now, because I trade the hotel debt right now in New York City, 20 percent of every single hotel room in New York City is the city is paying for migrants to stay at 20 percent.

01:34:52.400 I mean, there's like billions and billions of dollars. They're feeding the migrants and they're putting them up.

01:34:57.380 A lot of family who are. I was on I was on CNBC and Brian Sullivan, who I've known for 20 years.

01:35:03.300 I've been on his show at different networks that he's he's been on over my career.

01:35:09.440 And he mentioned on the show, he was like, I can't believe it, John, that more recently, just in this last year.

01:35:17.520 Now there's kids that are eight, nine, 10, 11, 12 years old, like young kids with no parent around.

01:35:24.120 And they're selling fruit and water in the subway system.

01:35:27.960 And they're on every single platform.

01:35:30.520 They don't speak English and and they're they're hustling like that's new.

01:35:36.820 That's new for New York City like that, that that had never been seen before.

01:35:41.860 Eighteen hundreds, maybe early.

01:35:43.560 Eighteen hundreds, you know, that's like old that some of these some of these changes are right in front of us right now.

01:35:49.200 And it's it's impacting society for us.

01:35:52.720 And then underneath some of this is the fact that what our movie is highlighting, that a lot of the children, unfortunately, are wind wind up being exploited.

01:36:03.400 Another thing that's interesting that I heard, too, that's shocking to me.

01:36:07.980 And it talks about prostitution, which is another issue, you know, that that's sort of in the category of the exploitation of women, which I'm against.

01:36:17.140 OK. And so prostitution is another issue.

01:36:20.160 That's a serious issue here in our country.

01:36:21.940 And one of the things that I read said that 60 percent of women that become prostitutes come out of the foster program.

01:36:31.660 So these are like children that are already in broken homes.

01:36:34.240 And that's a program that has monitoring of the kids.

01:36:38.960 What in the world is going to happen to these three to five hundred thousand kids that came across the border undocumented and there's no way to check up on them?

01:36:46.620 How many of those are going to wind up becoming prostitutes when they have no guardian?

01:36:51.760 I'm fairly certain the thing I talked about earlier about the MS-13 in Virginia, that victim, I believe, was a runaway from a foster home.

01:36:59.760 And that's it's not rare also.

01:37:01.720 So they say they check up on them, but there's a lot of it.

01:37:04.080 I met there's a there's a survivor that went to the red carpet with us for our premiere in Los Angeles.

01:37:12.780 And I spent some time talking to her.

01:37:15.580 I can't recall her name.

01:37:17.180 She has a video on our Web site.

01:37:19.300 I'm talking about her experiences and it's just awful.

01:37:24.140 She was trafficked at eight years old and she was doing like 20 tricks a day and eight and nine and ten years old.

01:37:32.280 So she told me her whole story and that the people that trafficked her had hundreds of Polaroid pictures of all the children that they were in contact with from other bad guys.

01:37:45.600 And so there was this underground network that was here in the U.S.

01:37:51.120 She was trafficked from Central America and and that was going on, you know, 15 years ago.

01:37:59.100 So this isn't something that's new.

01:38:01.380 OK, I think that it did explode more recently.

01:38:07.020 But it's something that's always, you know, been lurking behind the scenes and something that collectively as a society.

01:38:13.760 OK, that we should all be addressing together.

01:38:16.620 And then the big companies that are out there that make our goods, they need to be addressing this to make sure that they are not employing child labor.

01:38:25.820 All of the big tech companies, like we mentioned before, like Facebook and Zuckerberg, they should be doing everything they can to protect our children.

01:38:35.780 And I know that they're working on it right now.

01:38:37.580 We've heard the stories about the bridges at the border and the parents leaving pictures of their daughters all over the bridges and they've all been taken.

01:38:44.120 They don't know where.

01:38:45.100 I remember some congressman maybe five or six years ago telling about how there was a skyscraper in New York City of a young woman telling her story.

01:38:53.080 She was in that, you know, skyscraper is like a hostage and Johns would come in all day long, you know, underage.

01:38:59.640 And she spent her years like that stuck in this place.

01:39:03.280 It's it's unbelievable how widespread it is.

01:39:07.260 And happening in all the places you wouldn't think it is.

01:39:11.480 I just go back to the politics on it.

01:39:13.680 I don't see, you know, when you have a conversation like this, how the current administration, the only real action one could take is to support candidates who are calling for border security.

01:39:28.080 And it's not the Democratic Party.

01:39:29.900 Nope.

01:39:30.600 It's because they I don't know.

01:39:32.080 It's like they oversee it and want it to happen.

01:39:34.140 But this is the big challenge politically with with most things we talk about.

01:39:37.480 We want to believe and we hope that there can be a bipartisan solution and that we can reach out to anyone, be it a Democrat, libertarian or Republican, and say we got to deal with these problems.

01:39:48.320 But the moment you entertain the solutions to this and you look at the current administration failing to do anything about it.

01:39:57.460 But the end result is the Democrats don't seem to be motivated to solve this problem.

01:40:01.760 In fact, quite the opposite.

01:40:03.100 You then run into diehard Democratic voters who are just going to default to, you know, you're a Trump supporter, you're crazy, you're a fascist, whatever.

01:40:11.040 And then this is the bind we end up in with most of the problems I think we see today.

01:40:16.140 Certainly with what we're looking at in terms of these these buildings and a potential default is not a good thing.

01:40:20.740 Why isn't there an effort to solve the problem?

01:40:23.020 I don't think it's a lack of awareness.

01:40:24.320 I think they know full well exactly what's going on.

01:40:27.200 There's no guarantee, I suppose, that voting Republican changes it.

01:40:29.900 But at least one party is saying, hey, let's stop bad thing.

01:40:32.380 The other party is ignoring it or at least pretending like they're doing something and doing nothing.

01:40:35.860 Yeah, I used to think we could all agree on protecting children until the last maybe five or six years when the way everyone defines protecting children became different.

01:40:44.540 There's people on the left who say protecting children is giving them puberty blockers now.

01:40:47.900 And people on the right saying that's that's bad, you know, but I want to protect the child.

01:40:51.700 So even when it comes down to that, our definition of protecting innocence has has changed and it spreads out from there to the border and all these things.

01:40:59.980 So I don't that's why I don't know how you fix this politically.

01:41:03.860 I believe the border should be shut down right now and we could handle that way better.

01:41:10.060 But I think that that it's like to fix you've got to get tough on folks that exploit the children.

01:41:20.480 For example, I read something that said that in California they were against increasing sentencing for for the Johns that hire prostitutes as long as the girls were over 15, 15, 16, 17, 18.

01:41:40.180 And that was supposedly right now, I think I mean, I could be wrong here, but I believe I read something like this.

01:41:46.680 Maybe you guys could search that, but that there was some legislation that was being shot down or something about being tough on the men that are hiring these women.

01:41:58.120 And right now it's only a misdemeanor. I think that one of the things is that you need to be really tough.

01:42:05.320 It's supply and demand. So I think we need to get really tough on the demand side of the equation.

01:42:10.820 And that's going to be on a federal level. So that's like politician. That's your congressman, your senators, the president.

01:42:17.380 They've got to get tough and talk tough and take action because we've got to squash the demand.

01:42:24.120 So that and then the cities and the counties, they could they could definitely deal with the demand.

01:42:29.220 And so it's a it's going to be a big effort, I think.

01:42:34.120 Like, how do you how do you help protect these kids and put an end to a lot of this stuff?

01:42:39.120 I think it's a joint effort. It's going to take corporations.

01:42:43.180 It's going to take philanthropies. It's going to take filmmakers like what we're doing right now.

01:42:49.040 It's going to take influencers and celebrities. They could all talk about the issue.

01:42:54.240 Awareness and acceptance. But a lot of these places make money off of it.

01:42:58.620 This business, people are making money off of it all over the place.

01:43:02.820 I don't think a lot of these evil people are willing to give up that money.

01:43:05.060 Yeah. Child trafficking, I read, is like something like a hundred billion dollar industry worldwide.

01:43:12.720 A hundred to one hundred and fifty billion dollar industry by child labor and sex trafficking.

01:43:19.380 That's like a staggeringly big number of money that's being made.

01:43:23.420 Shocking. Yeah. I think the more you talk about it, hopefully people accept the reality.

01:43:27.180 You know, I mentioned earlier the thing I wrote about in Ohio with with Alex Rosen.

01:43:31.860 Those are unorganized people who have this appetite for evil.

01:43:35.640 Right. Do going after children using Facebook and other platforms, Roblox and whatever games are using to talk to kids and lure them out of their houses.

01:43:43.680 So there's that you got to deal with the stuff you're talking about.

01:43:47.100 You're dealing with like the government helping gangs, helping you talk about the border and it's very organized and they're using these online tools.

01:43:56.200 That's got to be completely stopped somehow.

01:44:00.340 But it doesn't seem as of like I said, as of this year, it doesn't seem like they're doing much to stop it.

01:44:04.800 They're doing much to stop people who are saying things politically they don't like.

01:44:07.660 But when it comes to the kids, what or movies or movies, bringing up the issue and building awareness has been blocked, has been banned.

01:44:13.600 Sound of Freedom and your film show that there is an interest to stopping this narrative.

01:44:17.080 Because there's money in it.

01:44:19.920 And I think it's I really do think it's because there's money in it.

01:44:22.180 And it's because a lot of these people partake in it and they don't see it as evil.

01:44:26.120 It is evil.

01:44:27.420 That's horrible.

01:44:28.180 That can't be the case.

01:44:29.500 That's when you see all these news stories, when you see all these news stories, it's a multi-billion dollar industry.

01:44:33.940 You see all these news stories about all these giant people, whether it's actors like we were talking about earlier, people at BBC.

01:44:39.820 That's awful for society.

01:44:41.200 That there's enough people that want to make money off of children and preying on children.

01:44:47.240 Look how big the Epstein story is.

01:44:48.720 I mean, look at the Epstein story.

01:44:51.220 Well, that blew the cover off of how widespread abusing children really is.

01:44:55.960 And that's just one.

01:44:56.680 I mean, that's one very wealthy guy that had a lot of political clout and he had a lot of corporate clout.

01:45:04.380 He had a lot of connections that clearly was abusing, you know, underaged girls.

01:45:10.060 I mean, he really had an appetite for like 13, 14, 15.

01:45:14.720 That's disgusting.

01:45:15.580 It's all disgusting.

01:45:16.460 It's just wrong.

01:45:17.380 The thing about those videos is there's so many different people who are doing those things and they go and they publicly shame these people.

01:45:23.600 No, I've seen those.

01:45:24.620 I've seen those videos recently.

01:45:25.560 I think it's counterintuitive.

01:45:27.000 Yeah.

01:45:27.380 Because those people are so evil inside.

01:45:29.540 There's nothing you can do to them that's going to change that.

01:45:31.640 They're not going to be reformed.

01:45:32.880 Yeah.

01:45:33.340 You got to put them away and you got to do it all illegally.

01:45:35.960 Right.

01:45:36.320 Doing these things, like I get it, but I don't think it's the way to go.

01:45:40.420 Well, that's a big trend.

01:45:41.680 That's what you're saying earlier.

01:45:43.100 Like there's been a big trend for.

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01:47:13.860 Taking power away from the police.

01:47:16.060 Like, it's a big mistake.

01:47:17.380 Like, you know, defunding the police.

01:47:19.180 And I think some of that came out of the stuff that you were involved with, with some of the protests for, like, the Black Lives Matter protests.

01:47:29.000 So there was some of the defunding of the police that came out of some of that.

01:47:32.560 There was a big trend.

01:47:33.920 Police were harassing people.

01:47:35.980 Police were unfairly picking on minorities and Latinos and Blacks.

01:47:40.620 They were calling for abolishing police.

01:47:42.600 The New York Times ran a story saying, yes, we actually mean abolish the police.

01:47:46.380 Yeah, but it's crazy.

01:47:47.120 Like, there'd be lawlessness.

01:47:48.040 Like, there's police in every society in the whole world right now.

01:47:51.240 I mean, that's, like, what's going to prevent the really bad guys from doing the bad things.

01:47:54.980 That's the patriarchy.

01:47:56.040 You can't have that.

01:47:56.300 This is the problem we come back to once again is the politics of it is the Democratic Party is in line with these functions.

01:48:05.500 Tough on crime.

01:48:06.420 We've got to get tough on crime in this country.

01:48:09.540 We have to be tough on crime.

01:48:11.660 Like, put away the bad guys and that's period.

01:48:14.640 Like, we've got to get really, really tough on crime.

01:48:16.300 But look at San Francisco where if it's not a thousand bucks, you're free to go.

01:48:19.880 And now we've got videos of people.

01:48:21.460 They walk into a Walgreens with a garbage bag and just dump everything into it and walk out.

01:48:25.480 And no one can do anything about it.

01:48:27.060 And the cops are like, why do we care?

01:48:28.880 This is society cannot function this way.

01:48:32.540 Society's going off the rails.

01:48:34.060 It's like stuff is going super duper bad in America.

01:48:36.940 Okay.

01:48:37.700 When videos come up and people are so empowered, like, yeah.

01:48:45.560 The hell's angels are going to save the day and go and beat up those Venezuelan gangs because the police won't do anything about it.

01:48:54.380 Like, what the hell is wrong in America right now?

01:48:56.580 It's just cuckoo.

01:48:57.620 Like, it's so crazy that everyone's all excited that the hell's angels are going to come to the rescue.

01:49:02.240 Not true.

01:49:02.620 Like, where the hell are the police there?

01:49:05.160 That's not even a true story.

01:49:06.420 My understanding is that this is made up stuff.

01:49:08.120 Okay.

01:49:08.260 That's made up stuff.

01:49:09.140 I was like.

01:49:09.740 No one is doing anything.

01:49:12.720 And look, I'll say it again.

01:49:14.480 Your film is being suppressed.

01:49:15.720 I think it's fairly obvious that there are powerful interests that want this problem to continue for whatever reason.

01:49:21.640 It is perhaps managed decline of the United States.

01:49:25.180 It could be.

01:49:26.720 So, you know, I pulled it up.

01:49:28.080 The fertility rate in 23 was 1.62.

01:49:30.960 And so, you are not replacing the workers who are retiring or the people who are dying.

01:49:36.640 And to make matters worse, you need about four workers to support one Social Security recipient.

01:49:44.340 So, it's not even about whether the jobs can exist and the jobs numbers are good.

01:49:48.060 It's that if we drop to three workers per one Social Security recipient, then Social Security becomes insolvent.

01:49:54.580 And they're estimating eight years is when the system completely breaks and then it can only fund what goes into it.

01:50:01.580 Then we're looking at many people who are going to be, you know, in eight years, who are going to be, you know, in their 60s.

01:50:07.660 And they're going to have no money at all.

01:50:09.400 And they're not.

01:50:10.200 And many of them aren't going to have families.

01:50:12.340 I don't see how we, the system can survive without, honestly, with the rate of mass illegal immigration, which they have welcomed, probably in desperation, I suppose.

01:50:25.360 And the problems we're seeing now with defaults or the threat of defaults on these office buildings.

01:50:31.440 Well, it's a pocket of cities.

01:50:32.620 It's not everywhere.

01:50:33.540 But I'm just saying that some cities are in really deep trouble right now.

01:50:37.020 Inflation is up.

01:50:38.180 Wages are down.

01:50:39.320 The system is fractured.

01:50:42.560 And it's socially degrading.

01:50:45.160 I don't see how this turns around at all.

01:50:47.240 If someone were to, even if Trump wins, how do you reverse course on what is a tsunami of problems?

01:50:53.840 I see a lot of childless millennials going to live in the metaverse.

01:50:57.440 A lot of illegal immigrants.

01:50:58.920 I'm serious.

01:50:59.580 A lot of illegal immigrants taking over the jobs in the real world.

01:51:03.380 It's going to be like Ready Player One.

01:51:05.200 People are going to live in the stacks.

01:51:08.040 Trailers on top of trailers where they live in squalor.

01:51:11.420 And they just go into the metaverse to escape.

01:51:12.900 It's the iPhone.

01:51:13.800 It's Apple.

01:51:14.380 We should all sue Apple because Apple created the iPhone and it changed humanity forever.

01:51:20.720 Because everyone now is so addicted to staring at your phone all day that I think that there's a correlation between everybody staring at their phone for two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight hours and then bonding and connecting with others.

01:51:34.780 So, like, how could you have such a bond with the iPhone and then, like, you should have bonds with other humans and procreate.

01:51:43.720 Like, God put us here to...

01:51:44.640 I think we need to...

01:51:45.280 I agree.

01:51:45.780 I agree.

01:51:46.420 But I think we need to be able to teach people to use it better.

01:51:49.540 Like, I like that we have the tools to do this.

01:51:51.720 That's because you're addicted to it.

01:51:52.820 I am addicted.

01:51:53.640 I am for sure addicted.

01:51:54.560 That's just the addiction.

01:51:55.600 That's the addiction talking.

01:51:56.740 But I also...

01:51:57.820 You're in denial.

01:51:58.220 I am Shane Cashman.

01:52:01.180 You're addicted.

01:52:02.020 I am addicted.

01:52:03.320 But I also love that we have the tool to do these other things.

01:52:06.240 Like I was saying earlier, there's so many bad things that come with this stuff, but it's so many great things.

01:52:10.100 I have access to all these things, books, videos.

01:52:13.440 I can learn so much.

01:52:14.540 I can pull up an orchestra and show my kids this stuff.

01:52:17.480 There are things that I really do love about it.

01:52:19.080 I don't think taking it away is great.

01:52:21.680 I think teaching people how to use it.

01:52:23.860 There is, in Harper's Ferry, the parking lots, the parking spaces require you have a smartphone.

01:52:31.500 And there's a bunch of, I mean, probably most parking lots these days, it's QR code pay.

01:52:38.100 And so I was parking over Labor Day weekend, and we went to this parking lot.

01:52:42.860 We asked the guy how to pay, and he's like, there's this sign with the QR code.

01:52:45.700 And I went, okay, no problem.

01:52:47.440 However, what if someone doesn't have a smartphone?

01:52:49.440 But the assumption is it doesn't matter.

01:52:51.440 If you don't, then you're not a customer here.

01:52:53.180 That's the future of Neuralink.

01:52:54.440 Don't get me started on that.

01:52:55.920 Exactly.

01:52:56.680 And I've told people, they say, I will never get that thing.

01:53:01.980 Here's an example.

01:53:02.660 You're going to pull into a parking lot, and you're going to say, how do I pay?

01:53:04.800 And they go, oh, Neural Connect.

01:53:05.920 And you're going to go, I don't have one.

01:53:07.520 Not even.

01:53:08.200 You're going to just think it.

01:53:09.600 True.

01:53:10.300 True, true, true, true, true.

01:53:11.260 You're going to think, okay, I'm parking here.

01:53:12.780 And they're going to be like, you should already be paid on your Neural Connect.

01:53:14.940 I'm going to be like, I don't have one of those.

01:53:15.820 I'm going to be like, well, then I don't know how you pay.

01:53:17.500 You're going to get towed.

01:53:18.120 Or, to be fair, you won't be driving your car at all at that point.

01:53:21.720 That's right.

01:53:22.320 It's a bigger question of, how do I get a car?

01:53:25.040 You Neuralink it.

01:53:26.080 Right.

01:53:26.380 You Neural Connect it.

01:53:27.500 Right.

01:53:27.740 You request it through the app.

01:53:29.540 It charges your account.

01:53:31.320 Isn't the funny thing about social credit score?

01:53:33.080 However, we're almost already there as we're getting away from cash.

01:53:37.740 100%.

01:53:38.140 And influencer jobs don't seem to make sense.

01:53:42.000 If you're, you know, there are people who have the approved narrative and they make a lot of money.

01:53:45.380 Yeah.

01:53:45.760 The system has been censoring and trying to shut out anybody who has a narrative that's not approved.

01:53:50.600 And the money you get is just, they don't need to give you a score of one to a thousand or whatever.

01:53:55.820 Because you're just going to have money or no money based on the social things you do.

01:53:59.200 That's it.

01:53:59.820 Can you live or not?

01:54:01.260 So you need a car.

01:54:02.400 Well, you can't own a car anymore.

01:54:03.820 It's all auto car.

01:54:04.940 It's all, you know, you use your phone or your Neural Connect to order a car that pulls up with no driver.

01:54:12.380 Can you afford?

01:54:13.980 Have you been a good citizen?

01:54:15.760 Has your influence been positive or are you banned?

01:54:19.200 And if you're a positive influence, the money in your account goes up.

01:54:22.380 And you can pay for the car ride and it auto deducts it without any kind of transaction just through your Neural Connect or whatever.

01:54:28.300 That's the scary reality of the future where we're going.

01:54:30.720 And people who say, I won't do that.

01:54:33.500 Maybe you'll live in a homestead out in the middle of nowhere, which the machine state will be fine for you to do because you'll have no influence.

01:54:39.360 And then you'll eventually just cease to exist.

01:54:42.520 The digital age is moving so rapidly right now.

01:54:47.580 And the way that information is communicated and transferred.

01:54:52.340 I mean, I've learned quite a bit about the digital marketing recently only because, you know, I'm involved in this film.

01:54:58.800 I wasn't really, you know, I'm not real big on social media.

01:55:01.720 And but but I've met many of these influencers recently that attended some of our red carpet.

01:55:09.580 And it's really amazing how many people can earn like 50 or 100,000 bucks a month.

01:55:16.000 I just can't even believe it.

01:55:17.260 And I look at the content they're putting out and I'm like, well, it's like not bad.

01:55:21.040 They're famous people that have five million followers.

01:55:23.440 And I'm like, holy shit, they're making like like they're rich.

01:55:26.040 Like they make like 50,000, 100,000 bucks a month, the whole digital millions of followers, you're making way more.

01:55:31.380 What? Five million followers, you make even more than that.

01:55:33.620 Substantially.

01:55:34.040 Oh, wow.

01:55:34.420 That I was with some people.

01:55:35.680 I was talking to a group of people.

01:55:37.840 There was a couple of really interesting girls that are supporting us.

01:55:41.920 I can't recall their name.

01:55:42.960 I've met so many people that are supporting our movie right now.

01:55:45.480 These two girls have like a LinkedIn that has 200 or so other followers or 2000 or whatever it is.

01:55:54.400 They built like a LinkedIn thing and they offer services for all these other influencers.

01:55:58.240 And then they are supporting us in our movie and they brought some big influencers.

01:56:02.680 I had a party at my house.

01:56:05.280 I have the Scarface, the home that was in the movie Scarface.

01:56:09.480 Really?

01:56:09.900 Yeah.

01:56:10.460 With Michelle Pfeiffer goes up and down the elevator.

01:56:12.280 We don't like it.

01:56:13.260 My wife and I don't like owning that house because all these boats go to our backyard and take photos.

01:56:17.800 People run up to our stainless steel doors.

01:56:19.740 We don't have a gate or anything.

01:56:20.680 And they're all running up there and taking photos and stuff like that.

01:56:24.540 But now that I'm supporting this movie and another one, I'm like, hey.

01:56:29.200 Let me give you an example.

01:56:30.360 Travis Kelsey just signed a $100 million podcast deal.

01:56:33.880 So it's over three years.

01:56:35.120 It's $33.3 million per year.

01:56:37.500 What?

01:56:37.920 And he has, I think, like 2 million subscribers.

01:56:40.600 What?

01:56:41.340 For 2 million subscribers and he's earning $30 million a year?

01:56:44.280 $33 million.

01:56:44.680 I think he's splitting with his brother, but that's besides the point.

01:56:48.020 And, I mean, he has a podcast, it's his business, him and his brother, whatever.

01:56:51.480 And that's the deal.

01:56:52.820 $33 million.

01:56:53.740 The Call Me Daddy woman, what did she get?

01:56:55.800 Like 200 and something million?

01:56:57.260 I don't know what the exact number is.

01:56:58.700 So I was talking to these young people.

01:57:00.760 Wow.

01:57:00.960 And I was like, hey, here, listen to this.

01:57:02.840 And I had, like, 20 of these influencers.

01:57:05.020 And they all had, like, I was like, wow, you know, the follower, you got a million, 2 million, 3 million, 4 million followers, 5 million.

01:57:10.480 And I was like, and you look at them, and I was like, they don't really look like giant celebrities.

01:57:15.040 They look like us.

01:57:16.640 Like, I was like, holy shit, like, these are powerful influencers.

01:57:20.140 And so I started talking to them about our movie.

01:57:24.160 And then I kind of pivoted and switched gears and said, look, you know, you guys are in a position to use your voices, okay?

01:57:32.320 And you've all been very successful, and it reminds me of what I was like when I was in my low 30s.

01:57:38.460 And I recommended to them, and I said, all of you, all of you are entrepreneurs, just like I was in my low 30s.

01:57:48.620 And all of you should really take a moment and think about trying to help others.

01:57:53.840 Because if you give 5% or 10% of your energy every day, okay, it could be money, it could be creativity, and it could be using your voice.

01:58:06.020 And I told them, it's going to make your business better.

01:58:09.280 It made my business better.

01:58:10.640 It made me being generous and giving back and having a good heart.

01:58:15.440 It made my company more successful.

01:58:18.180 There's no doubt about that, okay?

01:58:20.540 Because it draws in people to your business.

01:58:24.660 It creates long-term relationships.

01:58:27.340 All the guys in my business that were other bond traders and sales guys and all the guys that were entertaining clients in the wrong way,

01:58:35.680 that didn't have the same ethics, and they didn't have the same family values as me, okay,

01:58:40.540 where I take care of my family, all my extended family and everything,

01:58:43.800 like those guys that could go and do this out with clients and do all that and go to all the, you know,

01:58:52.180 get the women and all this other shit that happens in the financial industry with people exploiting women.

01:58:56.920 A lot of those guys flame out.

01:58:58.560 They do well for a while, but they're not in it for the long haul.

01:59:01.540 That's what I was telling these guys.

01:59:02.940 I was like, listen, you guys are all successful, and I'd ask you this.

01:59:06.840 I would tell you to think about trying to help others and use some of your influence and attention to do just that.

01:59:13.740 And they were all very quiet, and they were listening to me.

01:59:16.000 And they look at me, and they're like, wow, this guy lives in the Scarface house.

01:59:19.200 This guy is successful, and, you know, he's got, you know, the trappings of success.

01:59:24.380 And then I turn around, and I'm like, look, like, you know, if you want to be successful, then you should think about helping others.

01:59:31.880 So where, what do these people do with this?

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02:01:01.500 Their money.

02:01:03.660 Which people?

02:01:04.600 The influencers?

02:01:05.960 No, I mean, there are people who are worth an exorbitant amount of money.

02:01:11.960 And I wonder why it is that we don't see more activity in terms of, you know, like what you're doing, right?

02:01:18.700 Like, what do they do?

02:01:19.560 Do they just put their money in yachts and buildings and then forget about it and have someone manage it?

02:01:23.700 And then just buy a summer house in the Hamptons or something?

02:01:28.120 Yeah, it really depends who the people are.

02:01:30.660 You know, it seems like my wife and I are surrounded by other people that are like-minded like us.

02:01:36.740 And so we're in a network of people that are really wealthy, like us, and very blessed.

02:01:44.060 And then we also hang out with a lot of people that we went to high school with and elementary school.

02:01:50.500 And so we really are hanging around with people of all shapes and sizes.

02:01:56.400 And, you know, we have friends that are Democrats and Republicans.

02:01:59.040 I mean, just to your point, like, okay, so you have other successful business leaders or people that made money, and are they giving back?

02:02:07.460 I mean, I was mentored by a lot of wonderful people when I was younger, both in business.

02:02:14.600 Okay, when I was in my lower 30s and late 20s, they had really mentored me and made a really serious impact on me to think about being generous to other people.

02:02:25.260 And a lot of them are all throughout South Florida.

02:02:29.020 There's a wonderful man named Rick Case.

02:02:33.140 He is an automotive dealer.

02:02:35.500 He really made the Boys and Girls Club of Broward County.

02:02:40.020 I mean, they're the number one chapter in the whole country.

02:02:43.200 And he mentored me when I was like 29.

02:02:46.700 I joined the yacht club in the Bahamas called the Cat K Yacht Club.

02:02:51.400 That's actually where this home I bought an estate in 03 called the Manor House.

02:02:55.860 It's 100 years old.

02:02:56.920 We've got a number of guest homes and gardens.

02:02:59.260 And I had a really big year in 03.

02:03:01.240 And I named my film company, Manor House Films, after my property over there.

02:03:07.620 But when we had joined, and Celine and I joined that community, we bumped into some people like Rick and Rita Case.

02:03:14.000 I mean, like, they made tons of money in their auto dealership.

02:03:17.960 But, like, they're at 25% of their energy.

02:03:21.040 All they do every day.

02:03:22.480 I mean, unfortunately, Rick passed.

02:03:24.320 And we actually had a really nice reception for him on my property at the Manor House for his family and for Rita and all the membership that was there.

02:03:32.860 But there are people like that that I bumped into when I was like 29, 30, 31.

02:03:37.600 Right as I was starting to make a bunch of money.

02:03:39.920 And I saw them and the way they conducted themselves in business and what a big heart they had.

02:03:46.980 And I was lucky that I was mentored and inspired by that family and many others throughout South Florida.

02:03:55.300 And I can't say it enough that, like, we don't need socialism or anything like that and, you know, Robin Hood and take from the rich and give to the poor or whatever.

02:04:08.080 But that all of us out there have an obligation as humans to think about caring for others.

02:04:14.500 And it doesn't have to be with your money.

02:04:16.080 That's what I keep saying.

02:04:17.040 Like, you don't need tons of money to change the world.

02:04:21.360 All you need to do is get up every day and try to think, you know, how can I help my neighbor?

02:04:26.720 Okay.

02:04:27.220 How can I be a good person?

02:04:29.740 How could I write an email and advocate for something?

02:04:33.400 Okay.

02:04:34.100 You could do that every day.

02:04:35.780 Every day you could say, how could I make the world a little bit of a better place?

02:04:40.340 And the idea of mentorship seems to be a rare thing these days.

02:04:43.500 Yeah.

02:04:43.940 Right now, like people ask me what my hobbies are.

02:04:46.880 And it's funny you mentioned the mentoring.

02:04:49.540 Like, my hobbies are, this isn't in any order, okay?

02:04:54.820 I'm a spear fisherman.

02:04:56.100 And so I swim underwater and I shoot fish.

02:04:58.340 All my kids are spear fishermen.

02:05:00.540 My daughter, Corinne, is an especially badass spear fisherman.

02:05:04.000 I mean, she can swim down to 100 feet.

02:05:05.900 Wow.

02:05:06.140 I mean, she can spear fish better than any of the boys out there.

02:05:08.900 She's very attractive.

02:05:10.760 She's pretty.

02:05:11.320 She's smart.

02:05:12.220 She graduated magna cum laude recently from University of Richmond, double major, finance and Spanish.

02:05:18.400 But she's a badass spear fisherman.

02:05:20.060 Anyway, so the Devaney's are spear fishermen.

02:05:22.020 We shoot fish underwater.

02:05:23.400 We shoot groupers and snappers and all stuff like that.

02:05:25.920 I've been doing that my whole life.

02:05:27.240 I love boating and traveling on boats and stuff like that.

02:05:30.460 And I like adventure.

02:05:31.880 Okay.

02:05:32.260 And then, like you, and I see the guitar right here.

02:05:35.580 I, my whole life, I'm so passionate about music.

02:05:38.900 I love music.

02:05:41.540 Um, and I've been hiring music recently.

02:05:44.380 It's one of my hobbies.

02:05:45.580 And so I think the last two years I've hired about 55 days of live music to play for me

02:05:50.960 and my family and, uh, college kids, uh, probably about 45 of those days are at my property in

02:05:56.840 the Bahamas.

02:05:57.460 We have lunch.

02:05:58.540 We have music play at lunch and dinner while we're in residence there.

02:06:01.620 And then I hire music at a business conferences and at my home on Key Biscayne and that type

02:06:06.120 of thing.

02:06:06.420 So I really, really love music.

02:06:07.720 And then the third hobby that I have right now is mentoring kids.

02:06:12.180 Like there's no question that I am so connected to being around kids and it's made my life

02:06:18.900 so rich and it's such a blessing for me and this property.

02:06:23.500 And I named my film company, Manor House Films.

02:06:26.220 It is a blessing to me.

02:06:27.780 Why?

02:06:28.640 It's because it's a platform for me to mentor kids.

02:06:31.120 I bring to the Manor House, I bring 20, 30, 40 college kids at one shot.

02:06:39.060 Okay.

02:06:39.500 And that we have one table that seats 24 in this hundred year old dining hall.

02:06:43.200 And then we'll put another table that seats 10 right next to it.

02:06:46.180 So we very frequently have 34 guests and, uh, and it's really an incredible place for

02:06:52.360 me to talk to these kids and mentor them and let them talk to each other.

02:06:56.140 And, uh, and I'm kind of an old schooler when it comes, you know, the, the kids where,

02:07:00.740 uh, collared shirt, when they come to have dinner, I don't care what kids wear when they're

02:07:04.560 at lunch, but, uh, and they're not supposed to, uh, you know, you can't interrupt grownups

02:07:09.620 when they're talking.

02:07:10.460 You got to make eye contact, lots of cool old school stuff.

02:07:13.780 Don't do your damn phone in front of big John.

02:07:16.240 They all call me big John.

02:07:17.320 So I'm like, there's no, there's no phone.

02:07:19.100 A lot of the phones have to go away.

02:07:21.120 And, uh, I want, I want to listen to music with these kids.

02:07:24.000 I want them to talk to each other and I mentor them.

02:07:26.420 I let them express their feelings.

02:07:28.300 And, uh, and so like, that's like, for me, that's what makes me happy is, uh, is talking

02:07:34.800 to kids, trying to talk to the next generation.

02:07:37.520 A lot of kids have, uh, issues at that age when you're like 18, 19, 20, and they're all

02:07:43.100 trying to find their place in the world.

02:07:44.600 And just like earlier when you said, oh, that was so nice that you had a mentor in philanthropy

02:07:49.540 that, uh, kids need other adults to connect with them.

02:07:53.000 And, you know, some kids have an emotional problems.

02:07:55.380 They've got problems with confidence and, you know, everybody's sort of maturing at a

02:07:59.760 different pace.

02:08:00.240 When it comes down to learning financial literacy, my wife and I talk about this all

02:08:04.340 time.

02:08:04.760 I got none of that growing up and neither did she, you know, our schools didn't teach us

02:08:08.500 and neither did our parents.

02:08:09.700 So it'd be nice.

02:08:10.680 I think more kids need to understand that if you're going to navigate this world, obviously

02:08:13.860 you need your morals, you know, become a good moral person, but you also need to know

02:08:18.880 how to, how money works, you know, how to save, uh, all these things that we don't do

02:08:23.800 at all right now.

02:08:25.160 Yeah.

02:08:25.300 I love, I love, I love, I love encouraging kids to dream.

02:08:29.260 And so like, I'm an example, people look at me and they're like, wow, you got this really

02:08:32.820 cool place in the Bahamas.

02:08:35.340 And, uh, and, uh, and I'm like, listen, like everybody can dream, like you can dream and

02:08:40.680 you can accomplish anything that you dream about and put your mind to.

02:08:44.860 And, uh, so I love encouraging, uh, people to follow their dreams and do things that they

02:08:50.580 are really passionate about and that they enjoy.

02:08:53.460 I know that like everybody doesn't always have that opportunity and they come from all

02:08:57.580 kinds of walks of life and everything.

02:08:59.000 But, uh, but everybody has the power in their own mind to dream and then to try to follow

02:09:03.600 through.

02:09:03.960 And so that's what I talk about a lot with the kids.

02:09:06.460 And I do talk about a business and I tell a lot of the kids, my own story.

02:09:11.020 Um, you know, when I was growing up and all the things that I did, I was actually an entrepreneur

02:09:15.400 in college and I bought real estate and I read all these books on real estate investing.

02:09:19.240 And, uh, you know, I made like hundreds of thousands of dollars, uh, when I was in college,

02:09:23.460 actually, I started, yeah, I started trading stock options.

02:09:26.580 It was kind of a weird bird.

02:09:28.000 I had a very different college experience.

02:09:29.700 Um, that's awesome.

02:09:33.240 Yeah.

02:09:34.640 So where do we go?

02:09:35.500 What's, uh, what are the plans for the, for the movie now?

02:09:39.580 Um, you know, I think that, uh, I think we're going into our second weekend.

02:09:43.800 And so, um, I'm optimistic that, uh, we can sell out all these theaters.

02:09:48.660 Um, we're raising awareness.

02:09:50.700 We're encouraging people to fill up all the theaters that we have left.

02:09:54.620 Um, I think that, uh, I hope that, uh, people could stand with us and, uh, and sort of demand

02:10:01.260 that the theaters open up, uh, more theaters.

02:10:03.400 It would be great to see them take us back to 500 and then 700.

02:10:07.300 Um, and so I'd really encourage people to come and see our story.

02:10:10.400 It's so important that people watch this story and learn a lot about this issue right now.

02:10:14.760 And like I said before, it's a real thriller, like everybody that, uh, all of the reviews

02:10:20.840 and people are like, the movie is excellent.

02:10:23.360 And it taught me so much about these issues with children.

02:10:26.020 It's very exciting.

02:10:27.040 The ending's beautiful.

02:10:28.420 I mean, if you want to go to a movie and cry and feel in your heart, um, uh, and connect

02:10:35.260 with these kids and be touched by something, I would go and see the movie.

02:10:38.920 I mean, right on.

02:10:41.480 Well, I think, uh, we can probably do some final thoughts and, uh, that maybe that was

02:10:45.480 yours.

02:10:46.000 Is there anything else you wanted to shout out or mention?

02:10:48.980 Um, yeah, no.

02:10:50.500 What's the website?

02:10:51.440 What's the website for the movie?

02:10:53.180 And, oh, okay.

02:10:53.940 Yeah.

02:10:54.360 Uh, thank you.

02:10:55.780 The, uh, it's a city of dreams.

02:10:58.560 Uh, it's city of dreams, movie.com.

02:11:01.820 Um, is, uh, is our website.

02:11:04.400 You can buy tickets on the website, uh, to learn more about films that matter.

02:11:10.300 Um, you could go to manorhousefilms.com.

02:11:14.560 My Twitter is, uh, Devaney70John.

02:11:19.300 Um, we have another film coming out, um, called The Prince.

02:11:23.760 And, uh, that film deals with addiction.

02:11:26.340 That has all-star cast.

02:11:28.320 That's my other film.

02:11:29.160 That has Nicolas Cage, Giancarlo Esposito, J.K. Simmons.

02:11:33.800 Can you say who wrote it?

02:11:35.400 Uh, David Mamet, uh, wrote it.

02:11:37.580 Amazing.

02:11:37.960 And, uh, my friend, uh, who has his vacation house on Key Biscayne, Andy Garcia is in it.

02:11:43.100 Andy told me, John, the film business is very risky.

02:11:46.820 You're going to need all the help you could get.

02:11:49.460 And I'd love to be in your film.

02:11:51.620 And so Andy joined us.

02:11:53.440 Very, very exciting film about an addict and the journey that he has dealing in a world

02:11:59.580 of wealth, politics, and power in one hand.

02:12:03.560 And then there's another seedy underworld that involves exploiting women and, uh, uh, drug

02:12:10.060 use, uh, drug dealers and pimps.

02:12:13.100 Nicolas Cage plays our pimp in that movie.

02:12:15.740 Very, very exciting movie.

02:12:17.300 The thing about this movie, it's not what anybody might think, okay?

02:12:22.480 There's a Christ figure that Mamet wrote into the story here named Charles.

02:12:27.840 Charles appears to the hero in this story almost as if it's an angel appearing to him.

02:12:33.580 And he gives the hero very profound words and encourages the hero to make better choices.

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02:14:03.760 Did I mention that we care?

02:14:05.180 But just like a lot of addicts, they don't listen right away, okay?

02:14:11.680 And as I said before, addiction is a very, very serious issue across our country.

02:14:16.240 And so this kind of exciting story is unfolding where the addict is interacting in all these

02:14:21.960 different worlds.

02:14:23.420 And towards the end of the story, the audience actually feels empathy for the hero in this

02:14:29.220 story and through Charles' help, through God's help, through God's help, this hero, okay,

02:14:36.980 starts to reflect on his issues and problems and you see him start to take steps towards

02:14:42.920 recovery.

02:14:43.600 It's a beautiful story.

02:14:45.600 And I cried.

02:14:47.520 We should get David Mamet on this show.

02:14:49.120 Yeah.

02:14:49.440 You got to get David Mamet.

02:14:50.220 He's one of our greatest living writers.

02:14:51.180 I cried when I read that story, okay?

02:14:53.280 My brother died of crack cocaine addiction, okay, when I was 25 and he was 26.

02:14:59.280 So like for me, the story is very personal.

02:15:02.140 I think that this film company, you know, the Manor House Films, like I'm saying, like

02:15:08.580 we should back films that matter.

02:15:10.960 Doesn't mean they can't be exciting.

02:15:12.860 That a lot of the cast is sober.

02:15:15.160 I cannot drink alcohol, okay?

02:15:17.300 Like alcohol in me is bad.

02:15:19.440 My brother died.

02:15:20.740 My father was an alcoholic.

02:15:22.840 Like I have to accept some of these things.

02:15:25.100 I can't have alcohol.

02:15:26.900 And then also that addiction, like I mentioned before, looking at some of the issues in Philadelphia

02:15:33.440 and San Francisco, that our country together, like collectively, like again, this story here,

02:15:41.020 it's not about the left and it's not about the right and it's not political at all.

02:15:45.100 This is a story about an addict and a road to recovery and Mamet wrote a masterpiece.

02:15:52.280 And many of half, I don't want to like name all the names, but over half of all the actors

02:15:57.740 and the producers and everybody that's involved in this thing are sober.

02:16:02.420 And they connected with Mamet's story.

02:16:04.580 And I'll tell you this, that we're very proud to bring this other movie.

02:16:09.060 And I hope that a lot of America agrees with me.

02:16:12.520 And what I'm doing is different than what much of Hollywood is doing.

02:16:17.040 Hollywood wants to make movies about superheroes and like they're not making movies that matter

02:16:22.480 all the time.

02:16:23.260 And so I hope that a lot of Americans will connect with my mission to support movies that matter

02:16:29.900 and produce things that could help society.

02:16:32.080 It's kind of like social impact investing, okay?

02:16:35.960 And I think, and I believe in that, I believe that consumers should invest in things that

02:16:41.320 could make the world a better place.

02:16:42.580 That's what social impact investing is.

02:16:44.540 I believe in ESG investing too.

02:16:46.840 I'm not like a crazy, you know, person that believes in all electric cars or I don't really

02:16:54.480 swing one way to the other, but I do believe in protecting our planet for sure.

02:16:58.800 And I believe in the measurement of ESG initiatives.

02:17:04.620 My wife's cousin, Danny, is leading a company right now that is creating software.

02:17:11.740 They've signed up about 200 of the Fortune 500 companies and the software is going to help

02:17:18.220 them be compliant with ESG investing.

02:17:21.460 That's probably going to spike your ticket sales for the movie.

02:17:24.740 What will?

02:17:25.140 ESG is deeply unpopular among people who care about trafficking, especially.

02:17:29.680 Really?

02:17:30.460 Oh, yeah.

02:17:30.920 ESG is like one of the principal issues that people on the conservative side are opposed to.

02:17:36.500 What is it?

02:17:36.940 Environmental, social, governance?

02:17:38.920 Yeah.

02:17:39.380 It's basically political ideology injected into corporations, which results in anti-meritocratic

02:17:44.400 systems, which results in stock prices dropping and sales dropping.

02:17:49.160 Or controlled.

02:17:49.540 Well, that's like, well, it's because it's not laissez-faire that a lot of the conservatives

02:17:54.740 don't believe that some of these types of policies should be woven into corporate governance.

02:18:00.620 And so, although the point, I think, of some of the legislation, it does involve trying to

02:18:07.980 measure these things.

02:18:08.940 But many of these companies made a pledge that they would have a certain carbon footprint

02:18:15.280 or whatever.

02:18:15.780 And so, I think some of the legislation is making them follow through with what they already agreed

02:18:21.400 to do.

02:18:22.440 Yeah.

02:18:22.660 Deeply, deeply unpopular.

02:18:24.200 I mean, I'll be completely honest with you.

02:18:26.160 I don't think Democrats are going to line up behind a movie opposing trafficking.

02:18:31.100 And I don't think anyone on the right is going to give you any support if you support ESG.

02:18:34.860 Yeah, well, I mean, my film company intends to do social, more of social impact.

02:18:41.840 Like, I would like to have a social impact so that if I have this film company, I have

02:18:46.160 a third project I'm looking at doing right now.

02:18:48.340 So, that I hope to have a studio, Manor House Films, and to engage with our audience.

02:18:55.380 I intend to do some other really cool things, too, because right now, the digital age, like

02:19:01.960 meeting and talking to all these influencers, I think it's important.

02:19:05.220 Some of the news studios and distributors that have been created, they get a million or two

02:19:09.540 million followers, and that people tend to follow filmmakers that they connect with.

02:19:16.580 So, hopefully, the Manor House could have people that are like-minded and that will follow

02:19:22.700 what we're doing, is what we hope.

02:19:24.320 We will probably give away a week at my Manor House property and have all the live music

02:19:30.560 that we enjoy, and we're going to do, like, a big giveaway and then have some people win

02:19:36.660 going to the Manor House.

02:19:37.720 Maybe they could bring, like, 20 people and do some things like that.

02:19:41.660 I mean, I think, you know, I think you need the views and followers.

02:19:46.420 Like, everything's different the way that people do marketing right now.

02:19:49.060 And so, but my kids and my wife right now, like, they really believe in what we're doing.

02:19:57.400 They think that, like I said earlier, I was kind of choked up because, you know, my daughter

02:20:01.640 Corinne told me, you know, Dad, like, you're doing the right thing.

02:20:06.380 And I was like, Jesus.

02:20:07.600 I was like, my kid told me that.

02:20:08.980 Like, it just, it really impacts me.

02:20:11.100 I can't even tell you.

02:20:12.000 She's like, that means everything.

02:20:13.680 I'm like, so I'm like, kind of like, when it comes to this movie, I'm like, Trump.

02:20:17.940 I'm like, fight, fight, fight.

02:20:19.940 I'm like, like, I'm here today because I want to give a voice to these kids.

02:20:24.220 Like, I'm going to fight.

02:20:25.560 And I think that trying to fund and use my resources to back and fund films that matter,

02:20:32.360 you know, films that deal with child trafficking, films that deal with addiction, you know,

02:20:37.380 I think it's very important and I'm proud to do it.

02:20:39.720 Right on.

02:20:40.160 Well, it's been fun.

02:20:41.140 I really, really appreciate hanging out.

02:20:43.060 And I don't know if you want to say anything before we go, Shane.

02:20:45.320 Pleasure being here.

02:20:46.280 I'm the host of Inverted World Live.

02:20:47.720 You can check it out Sunday, six o'clock.

02:20:49.360 It's going to be awesome.

02:20:49.900 Jay Dyer's on.

02:20:50.800 And I'll probably talk about the spiritual rot in this country.

02:20:53.320 Right on.

02:20:53.960 And you can check out TimCast IRL tonight at 8 p.m.

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02:20:58.840 You can follow me on X at TimCast.

02:21:00.820 Thanks for hanging out.

02:21:01.820 And we'll see you all tonight.

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The Culture War #80 Theaters BLOCK City Of Dreams, Major Cities COLLAPSING, Debt Default w⧸ John Devaney & Shane Cashman

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