The Culture War - Tim Pool - The Elderly Take To The STREETS To PROTEST Trump ft. Will Chamberlain

00:00:00.000 but when it comes to what why they're fighting so hard against trump that's that's definitely more

00:00:03.680 this kind of almost quasi-religious feeling that they're part you know this is a meaningful life

00:00:09.040 project for them at the end of their life i see trump is i think uh representing uh the antagonism

00:00:17.200 towards their basic values and antagonism towards the basic way they've understood the world since

00:00:20.800 woodstock yeah you know that's you know trump if anything is a traitor to the boomer class

00:00:25.600 is a way to think about it first i want to show what medi hassan had to say the great medi hassan he

00:00:31.520 was speaking at the no kings protest in dc and here's what he had to say and you know they say

00:00:38.800 we don't reach out to the other side we don't reach out to conservatives or republicans that we're in

00:00:43.840 an echo chamber well let me say to every republican and conservative watching aren't you the ones who

00:00:51.200 said no more big government no tyranny in america so if you believe that what are you doing defending

00:01:00.800 masked federal agents in unmarked cars bundling people off of the streets including american

00:01:06.000 citizens and disappearing them oh oh wow they're we're enforcing immigration law and this is totally 0.93

00:01:13.120 in the face of our founding principles according to um indian journalist medi hassan which is true 1.00

00:01:18.000 he's indian they tried to community note this um or they they've they're they're proposing a

00:01:22.400 community note um medi hassan is indian uh he says it himself um that's neither here nor there so uh

00:01:30.480 yeah they this has bent them out of shape i want to bring will chamberlain in so we're going to get

00:01:33.840 that set up here he has some strong uh feelings on medi hassan and his comments regarding um ice look

00:01:42.880 people here are probably quite familiar obviously friend of the show but maybe for the people that don't

00:01:46.400 know could you give a quick introduction who you are what you do uh i'm senior counsel at the internet

00:01:50.560 accountability project which i do legal and political advocacy we get we try and fight to get judges

00:01:56.000 confirmed get key bills passed that touch on the courts and then i'm also uh vice president of

00:02:01.760 external affairs at the edmund burke foundation where i help organize and put together the national

00:02:06.880 conservatism conferences sweet good stuff well so earlier in the show we were and you've probably seen

00:02:12.240 this clip we were discussing um this clip of this lady i'll say she's kind of gravity challenged i 1.00

00:02:18.080 think would be a gratuitous explanation for her situation and she was gesturing to her neck obviously

00:02:22.960 mocking the death of charlie kirk um and we saw this we saw you know a lot of rhetoric surrounding

00:02:28.960 kirk and this no kings protests over the weekend and then i just played a clip from medi hassan

00:02:35.120 who basically did nothing to lower the temperature he was saying that republicans were i think he said

00:02:41.200 like you know black bagging uh immigrants off the street and like you know he was calling republicans 0.87

00:02:46.640 hypocrites saying oh you guys are supposedly against big big government but you're enforcing immigration 0.90

00:02:51.200 law it's so evil what is your take on this no king what is going on why can these people not get out of 0.99

00:02:56.480 their own way and why are they so incessant on cranking up the temperature well no kings is kind of this

00:03:02.560 weird phenomenon it's in a sense the the last gasp of boomer liberalism the woodstock generation the

00:03:09.040 people who've you know built their lives and don't have a lot of meaning outside of these protests

00:03:13.760 uh and so that's why when you go to these protests they're they're a very distinct audience from the

00:03:18.080 and very different from the antifa types or the pro palestine protest types that's a much younger

00:03:22.880 audience this is the older liberals um and you know you can start with that said there's obviously other 0.75

00:03:29.360 people on the left in there who are crazy like this woman who decided it was wise to start mocking 0.98

00:03:33.520 charlie kirk's assassination i really don't have much time for people who do that i i'm very aggressive about

00:03:38.320 the idea that there should be absolutely no tolerance for assassination celebration in

00:03:42.400 this country and i've talked about this with tim before on on one of these shows because you just

00:03:46.400 game it out if you normalize assassinations you end up with the spanish civil war something

00:03:50.880 equivalent to that in the united states yeah so i have no time for that um the the endless hyperbole

00:03:56.480 from people like media son about the actions of vice and and you know there's this straw man like

00:04:00.720 the idea that the modern republican party is necessarily a small government party that's not

00:04:05.040 donald trump isn't that he's never been that he's always promised robust government action to deal

00:04:08.960 with the problems he identified one of them is immigration and it's the most basic function of

00:04:14.160 a country to enforce its laws and to ensure that the people coming in are productive and helpful

00:04:20.080 that's what he's doing yeah well medi hassan specifically is so egregious because he himself

00:04:25.760 is an immigrant so he's obviously going to be quite biased one thing i pointed out it was tim

00:04:30.000 cast news we captured this clip and we identified him as indian journalist medi hassan because that's

00:04:35.520 how he identified we we pulled up a it was like a facebook post where he was saying like i you know

00:04:39.200 i'm a son of india or whatever and then it got community noted and they were like he's british

00:04:43.840 again that's neither here nor there why is someone like medi hassan not denaturalized and deported at

00:04:48.720 this point because he's cranking up the temperature to such a degree i'm like why is this guy

00:04:54.480 even still here i mean i know it's kind of a side note but i wanted to ask yeah well it's i i think

00:04:59.200 i think maybe should self-deport back to britain i think he'd be much happier in a country that aligns

00:05:03.360 with his islamist values that's the united kingdom uh and i think that's where he should be there's

00:05:09.600 there's nothing american about medi hassan beyond his paperwork that's the thing to understand about

00:05:13.600 him he's he's so his politics are deeply alien to this country they're familiar in britain which does have

00:05:18.960 this islamist so both an islamist tradition and a socialist tradition which is how we might describe

00:05:23.440 himself a muslim socialist but it's it's totally alien to our country and so the way he talks about 0.99

00:05:28.480 america and the critiques he levels are just so you know they're jarring and they're they're and it's

00:05:34.560 just strange that a person who believes these things would be you could take seriously that they

00:05:38.560 meant it when they were taking the oath of naturalization which regards you know withdrawing

00:05:42.400 all these allegiances so you know i i obviously target with maybe with denaturalize and deport pretty

00:05:48.480 often the logistics of that are fairly complicated and probably wouldn't be able to work uh but i

00:05:53.920 think it's still it's useful rhetoric in the same way that sees the endowments was useful rhetoric

00:05:57.440 we're trying to express that this person is not one of us he's not he's not part of the american

00:06:01.440 experiment yeah um and and he's not and what his views don't reflect anything that americans should

00:06:07.200 take seriously hey and it's worth the shot look if ice wants to deputize me i'll i'll try you know i'll see

00:06:12.880 what i can do but uh it's just the phenomenon these of recently naturalized immigrants suddenly 1.00

00:06:17.360 running for office and telling everybody what how the country should work it's it's mum donnie is 0.88

00:06:21.120 another example of that he finally brought bothered to grab american citizenship five years ago and now

00:06:25.840 he's going to run the city of new york really i mean yeah there's there's an underlying arrogance to

00:06:30.320 that yeah uh that's remarkable the you know you just got here maybe don't think you should be running

00:06:35.760 the place yeah totally well this is what i want to drill down on um we had a prominent twitter

00:06:40.800 poster uh the captive dreamer he was on the show i think would have been two weeks ago now or a week

00:06:44.640 and a half ago and we kind of drilled down on this and i noticed this when i was i was on the ground

00:06:48.960 at the new kings protest in dc it was mostly a fact-finding mission i loved the elderly so i was

00:06:53.520 actually this was like community service court ordered um unfortunately but um anyway i digress

00:06:59.360 the the the most the the issue that charged them the most was ice and the deportations and the mass

00:07:05.600 deportations what specifically is it about ice that animates the left to like above everything

00:07:12.720 it seems even more than like abortion like ice specifically seems to really really grind their

00:07:18.240 gears i don't know i maybe you maybe you can drill down on this there's there's not much left animating

00:07:25.440 the original boomer liberal in terms of a political project or a policy idea that they're trying to put

00:07:30.800 forward remember they got obamacare right um and they're not for universal health care generally

00:07:34.800 speaking some of them are but they're not they're not for full socialism so the boomer liberal

00:07:38.480 wants kind of like you know government assistance something along the lines of obamacare but obamacare

00:07:43.600 is not working the iran deal is a failure you know the entire obama presidency when you look back looks

00:07:47.760 really really bad yeah it looks just no every signature bill or signature initiative of his either

00:07:54.880 is irrelevant now because it got overtaken by events or failed miserably so that leaves the boomer

00:08:00.400 liberal kind of like a float adrift not really knowing what to be advocating for and and then

00:08:05.520 it becomes a movement that just becomes obsessed with its own power and ice is a tar is targeted at

00:08:10.240 the path of the democratic power of the liberals because it's supporting their voters and i think it's as

00:08:15.040 simple as that i think it's a recognition from uh older progressives that their project is going to

00:08:20.720 come to an end unless they can replace and and replenish their voter base with immigrants yeah i think 1.00

00:08:26.800 these old heads should just hang out with their grandkids i think that's what they should be doing 1.00

00:08:30.480 instead of like many of them don't have many and they don't true they don't have very good

00:08:34.400 relationships with them that's that's very true well and this kind of tracks you know the boomers i think

00:08:40.160 are oftentimes boogeyman a little bit and the political zeitgeist but i do think the reality that

00:08:46.400 they weren't really conscious or if they were they were malicious about the future impacts of the

00:08:50.960 policies they advocated for and it's really screwed over a lot of younger people i think there is some truth 0.60

00:08:57.440 and the mass migration kind of seems to be the epitome of that it's like it it benefited them

00:09:02.080 for like five years because they got cheap labor out of it and if they were a democrat obviously it

00:09:06.000 bolstered their voting numbers but they don't really seem to be concerned about the impact of mass

00:09:11.040 migration on young people which has been detrimental i mean they're crowded out of universities

00:09:15.280 you know finding a job's impossible everything everything just like sucks now and a lot of that is

00:09:20.880 attributable to this mass migration project so that's what's so strange to see that it's not

00:09:26.400 strange it's just it's what's interesting to see this slavish devotion to this mass migration project

00:09:30.880 by the boomers because it's just screwing over the next generation so blatantly it's indefensible 0.98

00:09:37.200 sure but it's i mean if you're a retired homeowner there's if you're just looking out for your own

00:09:40.720 interests it's hard to see what the downside is of mass migration you're hanging out of your home you

00:09:44.640 need a lot of help in terms of services uh human services right you're getting to the point where

00:09:49.760 you know you maybe you're maybe you're in assisted living or something like that you know so the lower

00:09:54.240 wage you know the less the cheaper it is to get into assisted living because of lower wage labor

00:09:58.640 available that's good um increased competition for housing means that the value of your home continues

00:10:04.720 to go up and up and up and up yeah right so there's a lot and more that's also another reason this

00:10:09.360 is something i'm not sure who pointed that out maybe peter teal pointed this out that even crime

00:10:13.920 actually ends up helping the boomer liberal the fewer places that are livable in your city the

00:10:17.680 higher the housing values are in the places that are livable it's true so all of these dynamics that

00:10:22.560 president trump is fighting for that that are really that hurt the quality of life of younger people

00:10:27.600 trying to start families younger people trying to raise young children uh and so their weight so it's

00:10:33.920 about wages and safety and quality of life and reduce competition for you know and you know the

00:10:39.200 downsides of immigration it's younger people who feel those pains most acutely but elderly boomers

00:10:45.360 might just be thinking well you know well who's who's gonna mow my lawn right and how much more

00:10:49.680 am i gonna have to pay for that who's who's gonna take care of me at the nursing home because my

00:10:54.000 obviously my grandkids won't so it's you know you have a interesting generational war and we have to

00:10:59.280 remember the boomers are the largest generation they've been they've had political power for such a long

00:11:03.120 time you look at it people of that age outside of obama it's been boomer president since since bill

00:11:08.560 clinton basically yeah uh you know i think an interesting thing that people may not realize is

00:11:14.560 i think clinton uh george w bush and donald trump were all born in the exact same year and that's 24

00:11:22.160 years of presidency by people born in 1946 yeah the first baby boom year like there's there's that's

00:11:28.400 not a coincidence oh my gosh yeah well that's a good point i didn't even think about that with the

00:11:33.440 the crowding out like crime basically clearing out parts of the city because like i'm from memphis

00:11:38.160 there's like five blocks left that you can live on like it's a total war zone and those and where you

00:11:43.200 can live in memphis i'm sure ain't the cheapest even though and it's especially not cheap relative to

00:11:48.400 the sort of salaries that normal middle class to upper middle class people are going to be able to get

00:11:52.560 in memphis yeah um kevlar is expensive yeah yeah yeah i'm sure it is yeah that's true everywhere

00:11:58.720 where there's there's a city where there's major crime issues is that the cost of you almost see

00:12:02.560 you see a consistent theme where it's there are both major crime issues in the inner city and then

00:12:07.120 the cost of living outside the city and in reasonably well-located suburbs is just enormous

00:12:13.440 so this may be kind of more like an esoteric question but maybe it's useful to the audience what would

00:12:19.360 what do you think is driving because obviously the snow kings protest was quite old i i estimated

00:12:24.080 the most gratuitous sort of estimation i could give was what i saw in dc i would say about 66 percent

00:12:30.000 were of retirement age how much of that animosity towards the trump administration is driven by sort

00:12:35.360 of this anxiety uh surrounding maybe you know protecting their own interests and also that boomers

00:12:40.080 are kind of on the way out versus how many of them are genuinely convinced that trump is like a fascist

00:12:44.640 dictator and they feel like that they're part of this you know great standoff i think it's more i

00:12:50.400 think it's more the latter i don't think it's a self you know you know we talked a lot about the

00:12:54.800 boomer interests and obviously i think that the boomer interest explains why they don't see the

00:12:59.040 downsides of mass migration for example they don't feel them at all right if anything it's just positives

00:13:03.040 for them so that from their perspective they're like ice is doing is ice is taking away my employees

00:13:07.520 but like people i like so that's their view um but when it comes to what why they're fighting so hard

00:13:13.120 against trump that's that's definitely more of this kind of almost quasi-religious feeling that

00:13:17.920 they're part you know this is a meaningful life project for them at the end of their life i see

00:13:22.000 trump is i think uh representing uh the antagonism towards their basic values and antagonism towards

00:13:30.480 the basic way they've understood the world since woodstock yeah you know and that's you know trump

00:13:35.120 if anything is a traitor to the boomer class is a way to think about it yeah i mean we got to think 0.90

00:13:39.200 they've invested 60 years at you know beyond six years but at least of their lifetime 60 years

00:13:43.920 towards this political project that's now being unraveled and let's just say second term trump

00:13:49.200 really just being unraveled in nine months i mean that would make me infuriated if i were like a you

00:13:54.080 know libtard boomer i mean i would be absolutely furious watching this happen and i would feel that 0.99

00:13:58.720 sort of anxiety of like oh wait the history books what about the history books oh no what about my you

00:14:04.560 know curriculum my college curriculum you can just not do that you can govern in a different way you

00:14:09.360 can you can actually look out for you know the american people that would that would bring me a

00:14:13.680 tremendous amount of anxiety if i were you know of that affliction i would say yeah you notice that it's

00:14:20.240 the insults have have steered completely in the direction of fascist and authoritarian like if you go 0.94

00:14:24.960 back four or five years in first trump one it was racist it was sexist it was you know traitor russia 0.91

00:14:32.080 you know all that that random stuff and it's like all that stuff has failed all that stuff's out the

00:14:35.840 window you know i think modern broader society has moved past this the black lives matter era most of

00:14:41.440 us especially in the since the admin of body cams i think most people realize that was the fundamental

00:14:45.680 thesis that was built on was just wrong you know yeah cops are good people they're dealing they're

00:14:50.000 dealing with criminals every body cam video has the victim looking incredibly and the victim

00:14:55.680 quote-unquote looking incredibly unreasonable um so now you're just fascist and authoritarian and 0.99

00:15:01.600 a tyranny blah blah blah like no kings itself is just so silly like you know we're in the middle of a 0.98

00:15:06.240 government shutdown trump isn't randomly stealing money or ordering the treasury to print more right 0.58

00:15:11.760 to fund the government operations he's not ordering you know he's obeying every court order and then

00:15:17.520 going to the supreme court and winning right this is not a guy who's disrespecting the basic

00:15:22.480 you know limits on his article to power he's just asserting the prerogatives that have been there

00:15:29.360 the whole time mm-hmm yeah that's what's so strange is like if trump were behaving like a king you would

00:15:36.720 wouldn't be allowed to you wouldn't be allowed to protest we would have just banned the protest

00:15:40.720 and arrested right why not yeah exactly it's like yeah maybe we should have yeah no kings but you know

00:15:49.120 that's actually now they think about now that percolates a little bit you know maybe a caesar

00:15:53.600 what is the story of why did why did the constitution replace the articles of confederation why did the

00:15:58.560 founders create a strong executive branch it's because the articles of confederation were a mess

00:16:02.880 the central government was so weak it couldn't do anything it couldn't collect taxes it couldn't put

00:16:06.800 down riots it couldn't do anything you know hamilton is the deep thinker behind the the presidency

00:16:14.880 and why it was created here it actually is created to be a fairly strong office it doesn't get the

00:16:19.040 rights right to law but it adds every shred of executive power belongs to the president of the

00:16:23.600 united states and one in just a single one because that person is supposed to act with energy and

00:16:28.960 dispatch you know the in a way i think the boomers often oh here's another point i just thought of

00:16:34.960 this the boomers political self-development matched nixon and matched the 70s which post nixon was the

00:16:41.200 nadir of executive power in this country you think of all the different bills that were passed

00:16:45.520 to deal with as correctives to the nixon era things like foia um you know all these restrictions on the

00:16:51.920 executive branch so they grew up with the idea that it's important to have a weak executive

00:16:56.160 to you know to protect liberty but that's not always true and certainly it's not not true in a world

00:17:03.040 where you have this massive congressional sclerosis and you need the one guy who's elected by the

00:17:07.120 entire country to use the executive power to yeah help move things forward yeah well that kind of

00:17:12.400 gets at another point is i showed some pictures earlier but i mean people see for themselves

00:17:17.840 they've kind of changed their optical strategy around a little bit and they're using a lot of

00:17:22.240 appeals to our what they perceive as our founding principles right they would say like oh no kings for

00:17:28.000 250 years what's with this 180 because a week ago they were like dragging columbus and calling

00:17:32.720 him like a genocidal maniac and then a week later they're like appealing to thomas jefferson and stuff

00:17:37.600 like that what is going on with this larp like this this this optical you know you know run around

00:17:43.600 that they're trying to pull on us i think it's that it's that subtle tension between sort of more

00:17:47.360 the boomer liberals and the younger liberals who don't really care that much about this democracy

00:17:51.200 stuff they don't really care too much about historical traditions as far as the younger generation of

00:17:55.920 lefties thinks it's that's all that's all scaffolding for oppression yeah so they don't really care but

00:18:01.040 there's there's plenty of people in the democrat party who realize that they're not going to win

00:18:04.640 the middle of the country if they're not seen as at least appealing to basic patriotic principles

00:18:09.040 yeah so you have this tension between them where you have and then at the patriotic protest you have

00:18:13.120 the woman mocking the assassination of charlie kirk it's just this this internal tension of the

00:18:16.480 left that contains these people who want to say that trump is a tyrant we need to restore american ideals

00:18:21.360 versus the people who are like actually a communist revolution would be great yeah well and beyond that the

00:18:25.680 lady that was that was mocking the kirk assassination she was holding a mexican flag it's almost like you can't

00:18:30.880 you can't even make this up like chat gpt wouldn't let you generate that like it's yeah it's so crazy

00:18:37.760 but yeah go ahead no no you go first yeah well i was just saying like and then you compare that back to the

00:18:43.760 la riots earlier this year where it was clearly just a mexican nationalist like i would say almost borderline

00:18:49.840 insurgency that's what it certainly felt like i wasn't on the ground but that's that's how i perceive when you're shutting it on

00:18:54.800 highways and attacking federal buildings um it's it's this weird this retconning where it's like the older boomers in the democrat party

00:19:02.880 really just the older establishment i mean this includes the upper end of gen x as well

00:19:06.640 grew up in a vastly different america than it exists now and so they're they're like kind of like guys what wait

00:19:13.520 you know you're supposed to wave the american flag and and larp like what are you guys doing

00:19:17.040 and like you're you're hitting on there's this massive divide and i don't know how much longer

00:19:21.260 you know we're gonna see this democrat party that at least tries to make these you know appeals i think

00:19:26.760 we're just going to see a third worldist party in the not too distant future i think that's right i think 1.00

00:19:33.080 it's going to be a third worldist party i don't think that the the sort of patriotic old old school

00:19:38.540 boomer liberals and i mean they just have a particular kind of patriotism but it at least is like an attempt

00:19:43.260 to be patriotic yeah you know whereas you can pick you know the woman with the kirk assassination

00:19:48.140 where holding a mexican plane his flag is making no effort to be a patriotic american right uh but

00:19:53.600 the older generation is going to pass on it's going to be the you know us and you know the younger republicans

00:19:59.320 dealing with the younger democrats and i think the younger democrats are indeed going to be a third worldist party

00:20:03.740 a party driven by you know the resentments and animosities of the countries where they came from or the countries of their

00:20:11.320 allies so you know mexican flags and palestinian flags and you name it that's going to be what drives the

00:20:17.320 democratic party and so the republican party is going to be the pro-american party yeah well i mean

00:20:21.640 zoran's like a great example of the future of the party like there's this whole attempt to try and clear

00:20:27.500 the field for cuomo so then he can take on zoran 101 and it's like i get it right but you're just kicking

00:20:32.580 the can for like four years down the road because the next if it's not zoran it's going to be another person

00:20:37.240 pretty much exactly like him like that actually is the future of the democrats it's a feature not a

00:20:41.760 bug of the new democrat party and um yeah and you're seeing with no kings obviously people are

00:20:47.580 not afraid to mock charlie kirk it's like we're going to be dealing with a party that resembles

00:20:52.740 like the eff in south africa the kill the boer party yes and yes people are not waking up to that

00:20:58.880 and and this no kings i guess is buying them a little more time rhetorically but like you're going to

00:21:04.880 get more and more zorans and it's the republicans are going to have to use you know get a little

00:21:10.060 meaner i think yeah well it's just a realization that you know as long as we keep if we keep winning

00:21:15.960 the presidency and we keep winning the bulk of the state houses because so many states are republican

00:21:19.980 it's just about taking responsibility for being sovereign right like and i think tennessee is

00:21:24.480 starting to do that you know tennessee said guess what we're going to make memphis safe now even 0.65

00:21:28.520 if memphis has a local blue mayor we don't care it's right tennessee's a red state we're going to

00:21:32.640 call the national guard we're going to restore order to memphis order to memphis similarly trump

00:21:36.520 is talking about how he wants to bring order to san francisco bring order to other blue cities he

00:21:40.560 should you know we we we we the republican party should be the party we're not the small government

00:21:45.680 party we're the party of proper governance we're the proper party of law and order of you know legal

00:21:51.640 migration of prosperity and flourishing for the people who have a legal right to be here yeah totally

00:21:57.260 there's kind of one more sort of factor at play with the no kings is what we saw with the political

00:22:04.240 violence the ramping up political violence to me that's actually an indication that the republicans

00:22:08.620 are winning overwhelmingly where democrats feel like maybe the democrats but the sort of leftist

00:22:13.660 elements of the democrat party feel like they're backed into a corner feel like they're completely shut

00:22:17.900 out from political power and so they lash out with political violence because that's all they know how to

00:22:22.380 do the no kings protest like obviously it was you know there was a fairly large turnout they're

00:22:28.040 estimating five five million like that's not nothing right but at large the democrat party really

00:22:33.520 just feels demoralized and that's a really worrying thing and i don't think these no kings protests

00:22:40.100 are going to mask the reality which is that the democrat party is ultimately shot out of power

00:22:44.500 they're realizing this with the shutdown they're realizing the republicans are like okay fine we'll just

00:22:48.260 sit back and wait for you guys to come to the negotiating table it's a new look gop combined 0.52

00:22:53.180 with a demoralized democrat party like where does this go how like this this doesn't look good from

00:22:59.900 the calculus no and i think i mean they're really you know democrats kind of again it's it's what we

00:23:05.900 talked about earlier the fact that the obama administration's legacy is so poor that nobody's

00:23:09.920 sticking by it at all but there's nothing else motivating it and so you end up with a case where the only

00:23:14.780 people with like a positive vision for the country or like at least something a vision itself right

00:23:20.760 you know as as they'd say the big lebowski like at least it's an ethos the idea that but at least 0.99

00:23:25.380 the communists have an idea of what they want to do sure and i don't know that the boomer liberals 0.84

00:23:29.140 have an idea of what they want to do with power i don't know that they do i think they just want

00:23:32.780 to hold on to it for its own sake and for their own sake yeah just stop people from deporting you

00:23:36.720 know it's like an anti-deportation party i guess yeah but yeah and and you know you can see that

00:23:42.400 with like they're trying to find a message and the only one they can land on is health care

00:23:45.420 right they're like oh we're gonna make you know put our flag down and fight to deal with the you

00:23:49.920 know bump in obamacare insurance premiums it's like well that begs the question like why why are

00:23:53.680 those premiums gonna go up like crazy in the first place oh right because obamacare failed because 0.78

00:23:58.420 obamacare is a mess and requires you know a trillion and a half in subsidies just to make it so that

00:24:02.620 people can have unbelievably crappy health insurance like it's it's a completely miserable failure

00:24:07.580 so they don't what what are they what's what's there what's motivating the moderate liberal left

00:24:13.220 and as a result you find them being they're all like the people who are doing pods of america

00:24:16.860 they're in the replies of assad piker right who's just an anti-american communist yeah uh another uh

00:24:22.320 you know if not if not for the fact that he was born in new jersey would be a great candidate for

00:24:25.720 denaturalization and deportation it's true uh but they're because because assad at least is saying

00:24:30.640 like here's the project i want the dsa is at least saying here's what we're going to do

00:24:33.900 we're going to be socialists yeah it's a terrible idea it's going to ruin everything but like it's

00:24:37.480 something it's not nothing no it's true yeah i mean because yeah and you have this like yeah like

00:24:42.480 you're talking about like this ezra klein i don't even call it a wing of the democrat party because i

00:24:45.740 really don't think they actually have that many ears and and the democrat establishment i think like

00:24:50.680 you said the older sort of rungs of the democrat party are really just concerned of maintaining

00:24:55.080 political power and that's why you've got this schizophrenic messaging at the no kings protest like i was

00:24:59.420 there bernie sanders got up and he was like railing on like elon musk and then you know like

00:25:04.260 medi hassan gets up and he's like complaining about ice it's like they weren't even focused on like what

00:25:09.760 specifically they had a problem about with trump beyond the fact that he's trump yeah and i think

00:25:16.360 that's you know the never trump stuff is just completely lost run out of gas you know all the

00:25:21.240 lawfare failed all every project to get rid of trump has completely failed at this point and now trump

00:25:26.240 is that the apex of his power after 10 years of the democrat movement being solely focused on taking

00:25:30.500 him down yeah um so it leaves them kind of bereft of a message and it's going to be hard for them to

00:25:37.200 reconstruct out of this and i mean you look at the polling you know people don't blame trump for the

00:25:41.320 shutdown yeah they think oh health care is good but you know the democrats should probably come to the

00:25:45.860 table and i mean republicans are going to be willing to make some sort of deal they don't want health

00:25:48.960 care insurance premiums despite you know 5x for people for a 10 percent of the population they don't

00:25:55.320 want that so they'll figure out some sort of accommodation there uh but like that's what

00:25:59.680 you're building your platform on and i guess the final point i would make or on that specifically is

00:26:03.800 that you know what ezra klein is trying to do is this abundance thing but ezra klein knows that it's

00:26:08.480 the crime issues and the illegal immigration use that are pissing everybody off but it's such a core 1.00

00:26:12.740 part of the democratic party platform that you can't get rid of it yeah so what do you what do you

00:26:16.900 even do like you know the republicans get to stand on well like we're just going to make like better

00:26:20.960 for people by putting criminals in jail and deporting illegal immigrants and releasing 0.99

00:26:25.660 liberating energy policies and making it easier to have a family yeah and like democrats are stuck on

00:26:31.660 you know if there are three big issues in in that dominate american politics right now it's immigration

00:26:36.360 crime in the economy and the democrats are on the 2080 side and two of them on immigration and crime

00:26:41.680 yeah it's a disaster i mean that's even like no kings it's just they're not actually concerned about

00:26:47.120 the pot they're on the wrong side of the policy they they're just convinced that it's maybe the

00:26:51.140 messaging that's wrong so they keep trying to like repackage the messaging they trot out some

00:26:55.260 like 25 year old who has like you know the hedge fund manager dad to like maybe try and like appeal

00:27:01.400 to zoomers or something and it's like no it's the policy sucks like you can actually have terrible

00:27:06.760 you can have terrible messaging but still get across the finish line with great policy the republicans

00:27:10.840 did it they can yeah that's actually i mean think about how little you know how much how far

00:27:15.160 trump had to work to win in 2016 and how how aligned the messaging forces of the world were

00:27:20.120 against him right but he was just the guy saying illegal immigration is bad crime is bad we should 0.83

00:27:25.120 kick our enemies asses we've had fair trade deals and and just a huge chunk of the country was like 0.98

00:27:30.680 yeah that yeah we want we want that yeah we want we want that and immigration is horribly unpopular 0.97

00:27:36.620 everywhere everywhere all right not just the united states it's it's it's the driver of every

00:27:41.880 politics in a western country it's driver politics japan now too it doesn't matter where you are

00:27:46.260 like every every existing western society the popularity of immigration is just it's a at best

00:27:52.340 65 35 against yeah and yeah so like if you're running on the wrong side of that you're just you're

00:27:59.920 struggling for a message because the other side gets to say about because it's it's such a meta issue

00:28:04.140 it controls how everything else in society works you know like you're talking about health care it's

00:28:08.400 like okay but illegal immigration is a big driver of the cost of health care because illegal immigrants 0.99

00:28:11.920 consume so much health care at the emergency room which is why you have everybody has to go to some

00:28:15.800 crappy urgent care and get mediocre care there because they can't go to the emergency room because 0.86

00:28:20.020 of the line is insane like it every you know housing crisis illegal immigration like you crime illegal 0.99

00:28:26.020 immigration that all it all ties together yeah it's even it even trickles down to like the crappy

00:28:31.780 manifestations of liberal democracy like i was in zambia and i was asking like a cab driver i was like what is

00:28:36.620 the big problem and he's like it's these malawians coming in causing problems so it's like even like 1.00

00:28:43.060 even in the heart of africa they're like fed up with illegal immigration so yeah it's true it's true 1.00

00:28:47.660 everywhere and yeah i mean it's it's a fundamental source of tension in all these western democracies

00:28:52.300 and and until and unless i mean we're in a position we're lucky and we in the sense that uh we don't have

00:28:59.000 the problems that like the united kingdom does or france does where they're having a whole new set of

00:29:03.260 problems where they've got because they have mass muslim immigration which is i would say honestly 1.00

00:29:07.480 the worst time oh yeah frankly uh like you you know you have like outright islamist mps in britain 0.86

00:29:13.520 bragging about banning israeli soccer fans from showing up yeah to us uh thankfully we don't have

00:29:19.900 that but it's an indicator it's a reminder that we need to make sure that you know the border is the

00:29:24.400 one place we actually can't enforce these things because we have the first amendment protecting freedom

00:29:28.060 of speech and freedom of religion in a way that the european countries don't so they can be more

00:29:31.400 aggressive about dealing with the downsides of islamist politicians but we can't so we need to 1.00

00:29:36.220 like make sure that there is not serious islamic immigration to our country yeah absolutely well 1.00

00:29:41.820 we're we're running out of time so first of all happy diwali and uh where can people find

00:29:46.060 in the spirit of mass migration yeah yeah you can find me at will chamberlain on x you can find the

00:29:52.180 article 3 project at a3paction.com where you can see what we're going what we have going on in terms of

00:29:58.720 uh projects activism projects that you can email your set of reason representatives for

00:30:02.520 uh and those are those are the two big places but follow me on x sweet love it well appreciate it

00:30:07.500 will until next time absolutely all right all righty well that was the great will chamberlain that was

00:30:12.620 fantastic he came in and uh he explained it all see i can't i can't sometimes i can't um sort of

00:30:18.760 articulate at that high of a level so he comes in and just drives it home so i think still will

00:30:22.720 it's a great show we will be back tonight for timcast irl at 8 p.m i don't know if you saw the

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00:30:43.900 tate brown follow me on x specifically i'm active on there and with that thank you very much for

00:30:49.500 watching we will see you all next time oh and we will we will raid devory dawkins we will so let

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The Culture War - Tim Pool - October 20, 2025

The Elderly Take To The STREETS To PROTEST Trump ft. Will Chamberlain

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