The Elderly Take To The STREETS To PROTEST Trump ft. Will Chamberlain
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Will Chamberlain joins the show to discuss the No King protest in DC and the "No King" movement. Will is joined by senior counsel at the Internet Accountability Project and VP of external affairs at the Edmund Burke Foundation, and Senior Counsel at the Online Accountability Project, and Vice President of External Affairs at the EDmund Burke Foundation.
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but when it comes to what why they're fighting so hard against trump that's that's definitely more
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this kind of almost quasi-religious feeling that they're part you know this is a meaningful life
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project for them at the end of their life i see trump is i think uh representing uh the antagonism
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towards their basic values and antagonism towards the basic way they've understood the world since
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woodstock yeah you know that's you know trump if anything is a traitor to the boomer class
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is a way to think about it first i want to show what medi hassan had to say the great medi hassan he
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was speaking at the no kings protest in dc and here's what he had to say and you know they say
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we don't reach out to the other side we don't reach out to conservatives or republicans that we're in
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an echo chamber well let me say to every republican and conservative watching aren't you the ones who
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said no more big government no tyranny in america so if you believe that what are you doing defending
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masked federal agents in unmarked cars bundling people off of the streets including american
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citizens and disappearing them oh oh wow they're we're enforcing immigration law and this is totally
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in the face of our founding principles according to um indian journalist medi hassan which is true
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he's indian they tried to community note this um or they they've they're they're proposing a
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community note um medi hassan is indian uh he says it himself um that's neither here nor there so uh
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yeah they this has bent them out of shape i want to bring will chamberlain in so we're going to get
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that set up here he has some strong uh feelings on medi hassan and his comments regarding um ice look
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people here are probably quite familiar obviously friend of the show but maybe for the people that don't
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know could you give a quick introduction who you are what you do uh i'm senior counsel at the internet
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accountability project which i do legal and political advocacy we get we try and fight to get judges
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confirmed get key bills passed that touch on the courts and then i'm also uh vice president of
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external affairs at the edmund burke foundation where i help organize and put together the national
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conservatism conferences sweet good stuff well so earlier in the show we were and you've probably seen
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this clip we were discussing um this clip of this lady i'll say she's kind of gravity challenged i
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think would be a gratuitous explanation for her situation and she was gesturing to her neck obviously
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mocking the death of charlie kirk um and we saw this we saw you know a lot of rhetoric surrounding
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kirk and this no kings protests over the weekend and then i just played a clip from medi hassan
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who basically did nothing to lower the temperature he was saying that republicans were i think he said
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like you know black bagging uh immigrants off the street and like you know he was calling republicans
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hypocrites saying oh you guys are supposedly against big big government but you're enforcing immigration
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law it's so evil what is your take on this no king what is going on why can these people not get out of
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their own way and why are they so incessant on cranking up the temperature well no kings is kind of this
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weird phenomenon it's in a sense the the last gasp of boomer liberalism the woodstock generation the
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people who've you know built their lives and don't have a lot of meaning outside of these protests
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uh and so that's why when you go to these protests they're they're a very distinct audience from the
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and very different from the antifa types or the pro palestine protest types that's a much younger
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audience this is the older liberals um and you know you can start with that said there's obviously other
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people on the left in there who are crazy like this woman who decided it was wise to start mocking
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charlie kirk's assassination i really don't have much time for people who do that i i'm very aggressive about
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the idea that there should be absolutely no tolerance for assassination celebration in
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this country and i've talked about this with tim before on on one of these shows because you just
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game it out if you normalize assassinations you end up with the spanish civil war something
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equivalent to that in the united states yeah so i have no time for that um the the endless hyperbole
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from people like media son about the actions of vice and and you know there's this straw man like
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the idea that the modern republican party is necessarily a small government party that's not
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donald trump isn't that he's never been that he's always promised robust government action to deal
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with the problems he identified one of them is immigration and it's the most basic function of
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a country to enforce its laws and to ensure that the people coming in are productive and helpful
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that's what he's doing yeah well medi hassan specifically is so egregious because he himself
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is an immigrant so he's obviously going to be quite biased one thing i pointed out it was tim
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cast news we captured this clip and we identified him as indian journalist medi hassan because that's
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how he identified we we pulled up a it was like a facebook post where he was saying like i you know
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i'm a son of india or whatever and then it got community noted and they were like he's british
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again that's neither here nor there why is someone like medi hassan not denaturalized and deported at
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this point because he's cranking up the temperature to such a degree i'm like why is this guy
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even still here i mean i know it's kind of a side note but i wanted to ask yeah well it's i i think
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i think maybe should self-deport back to britain i think he'd be much happier in a country that aligns
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with his islamist values that's the united kingdom uh and i think that's where he should be there's
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there's nothing american about medi hassan beyond his paperwork that's the thing to understand about
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him he's he's so his politics are deeply alien to this country they're familiar in britain which does have
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this islamist so both an islamist tradition and a socialist tradition which is how we might describe
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himself a muslim socialist but it's it's totally alien to our country and so the way he talks about
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america and the critiques he levels are just so you know they're jarring and they're they're and it's
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just strange that a person who believes these things would be you could take seriously that they
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meant it when they were taking the oath of naturalization which regards you know withdrawing
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all these allegiances so you know i i obviously target with maybe with denaturalize and deport pretty
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often the logistics of that are fairly complicated and probably wouldn't be able to work uh but i
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think it's still it's useful rhetoric in the same way that sees the endowments was useful rhetoric
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we're trying to express that this person is not one of us he's not he's not part of the american
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experiment yeah um and and he's not and what his views don't reflect anything that americans should
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take seriously hey and it's worth the shot look if ice wants to deputize me i'll i'll try you know i'll see
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what i can do but uh it's just the phenomenon these of recently naturalized immigrants suddenly
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running for office and telling everybody what how the country should work it's it's mum donnie is
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another example of that he finally brought bothered to grab american citizenship five years ago and now
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he's going to run the city of new york really i mean yeah there's there's an underlying arrogance to
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that yeah uh that's remarkable the you know you just got here maybe don't think you should be running
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the place yeah totally well this is what i want to drill down on um we had a prominent twitter
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poster uh the captive dreamer he was on the show i think would have been two weeks ago now or a week
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and a half ago and we kind of drilled down on this and i noticed this when i was i was on the ground
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at the new kings protest in dc it was mostly a fact-finding mission i loved the elderly so i was
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actually this was like community service court ordered um unfortunately but um anyway i digress
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the the the most the the issue that charged them the most was ice and the deportations and the mass
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deportations what specifically is it about ice that animates the left to like above everything
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it seems even more than like abortion like ice specifically seems to really really grind their
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gears i don't know i maybe you maybe you can drill down on this there's there's not much left animating
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the original boomer liberal in terms of a political project or a policy idea that they're trying to put
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forward remember they got obamacare right um and they're not for universal health care generally
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speaking some of them are but they're not they're not for full socialism so the boomer liberal
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wants kind of like you know government assistance something along the lines of obamacare but obamacare
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is not working the iran deal is a failure you know the entire obama presidency when you look back looks
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really really bad yeah it looks just no every signature bill or signature initiative of his either
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is irrelevant now because it got overtaken by events or failed miserably so that leaves the boomer
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liberal kind of like a float adrift not really knowing what to be advocating for and and then
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it becomes a movement that just becomes obsessed with its own power and ice is a tar is targeted at
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the path of the democratic power of the liberals because it's supporting their voters and i think it's as
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simple as that i think it's a recognition from uh older progressives that their project is going to
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come to an end unless they can replace and and replenish their voter base with immigrants yeah i think
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these old heads should just hang out with their grandkids i think that's what they should be doing
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instead of like many of them don't have many and they don't true they don't have very good
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relationships with them that's that's very true well and this kind of tracks you know the boomers i think
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are oftentimes boogeyman a little bit and the political zeitgeist but i do think the reality that
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they weren't really conscious or if they were they were malicious about the future impacts of the
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policies they advocated for and it's really screwed over a lot of younger people i think there is some truth
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and the mass migration kind of seems to be the epitome of that it's like it it benefited them
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for like five years because they got cheap labor out of it and if they were a democrat obviously it
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bolstered their voting numbers but they don't really seem to be concerned about the impact of mass
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migration on young people which has been detrimental i mean they're crowded out of universities
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you know finding a job's impossible everything everything just like sucks now and a lot of that is
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attributable to this mass migration project so that's what's so strange to see that it's not
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strange it's just it's what's interesting to see this slavish devotion to this mass migration project
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by the boomers because it's just screwing over the next generation so blatantly it's indefensible
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sure but it's i mean if you're a retired homeowner there's if you're just looking out for your own
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interests it's hard to see what the downside is of mass migration you're hanging out of your home you
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need a lot of help in terms of services uh human services right you're getting to the point where
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you know you maybe you're maybe you're in assisted living or something like that you know so the lower
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wage you know the less the cheaper it is to get into assisted living because of lower wage labor
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available that's good um increased competition for housing means that the value of your home continues
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to go up and up and up and up yeah right so there's a lot and more that's also another reason this
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is something i'm not sure who pointed that out maybe peter teal pointed this out that even crime
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actually ends up helping the boomer liberal the fewer places that are livable in your city the
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higher the housing values are in the places that are livable it's true so all of these dynamics that
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president trump is fighting for that that are really that hurt the quality of life of younger people
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trying to start families younger people trying to raise young children uh and so their weight so it's
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about wages and safety and quality of life and reduce competition for you know and you know the
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downsides of immigration it's younger people who feel those pains most acutely but elderly boomers
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might just be thinking well you know well who's who's gonna mow my lawn right and how much more
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am i gonna have to pay for that who's who's gonna take care of me at the nursing home because my
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obviously my grandkids won't so it's you know you have a interesting generational war and we have to
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remember the boomers are the largest generation they've been they've had political power for such a long
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time you look at it people of that age outside of obama it's been boomer president since since bill
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clinton basically yeah uh you know i think an interesting thing that people may not realize is
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i think clinton uh george w bush and donald trump were all born in the exact same year and that's 24
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years of presidency by people born in 1946 yeah the first baby boom year like there's there's that's
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not a coincidence oh my gosh yeah well that's a good point i didn't even think about that with the
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the crowding out like crime basically clearing out parts of the city because like i'm from memphis
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there's like five blocks left that you can live on like it's a total war zone and those and where you
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can live in memphis i'm sure ain't the cheapest even though and it's especially not cheap relative to
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the sort of salaries that normal middle class to upper middle class people are going to be able to get
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in memphis yeah um kevlar is expensive yeah yeah yeah i'm sure it is yeah that's true everywhere
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where there's there's a city where there's major crime issues is that the cost of you almost see
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you see a consistent theme where it's there are both major crime issues in the inner city and then
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the cost of living outside the city and in reasonably well-located suburbs is just enormous
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so this may be kind of more like an esoteric question but maybe it's useful to the audience what would
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what do you think is driving because obviously the snow kings protest was quite old i i estimated
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the most gratuitous sort of estimation i could give was what i saw in dc i would say about 66 percent
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were of retirement age how much of that animosity towards the trump administration is driven by sort
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of this anxiety uh surrounding maybe you know protecting their own interests and also that boomers
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are kind of on the way out versus how many of them are genuinely convinced that trump is like a fascist
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dictator and they feel like that they're part of this you know great standoff i think it's more i
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think it's more the latter i don't think it's a self you know you know we talked a lot about the
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boomer interests and obviously i think that the boomer interest explains why they don't see the
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downsides of mass migration for example they don't feel them at all right if anything it's just positives
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for them so that from their perspective they're like ice is doing is ice is taking away my employees
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but like people i like so that's their view um but when it comes to what why they're fighting so hard
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against trump that's that's definitely more of this kind of almost quasi-religious feeling that
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they're part you know this is a meaningful life project for them at the end of their life i see
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trump is i think uh representing uh the antagonism towards their basic values and antagonism towards
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the basic way they've understood the world since woodstock yeah you know and that's you know trump
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if anything is a traitor to the boomer class is a way to think about it yeah i mean we got to think
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they've invested 60 years at you know beyond six years but at least of their lifetime 60 years
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towards this political project that's now being unraveled and let's just say second term trump
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really just being unraveled in nine months i mean that would make me infuriated if i were like a you
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know libtard boomer i mean i would be absolutely furious watching this happen and i would feel that
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sort of anxiety of like oh wait the history books what about the history books oh no what about my you
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know curriculum my college curriculum you can just not do that you can govern in a different way you
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can you can actually look out for you know the american people that would that would bring me a
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tremendous amount of anxiety if i were you know of that affliction i would say yeah you notice that it's
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the insults have have steered completely in the direction of fascist and authoritarian like if you go
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back four or five years in first trump one it was racist it was sexist it was you know traitor russia
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you know all that that random stuff and it's like all that stuff has failed all that stuff's out the
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window you know i think modern broader society has moved past this the black lives matter era most of
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us especially in the since the admin of body cams i think most people realize that was the fundamental
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thesis that was built on was just wrong you know yeah cops are good people they're dealing they're
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dealing with criminals every body cam video has the victim looking incredibly and the victim
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quote-unquote looking incredibly unreasonable um so now you're just fascist and authoritarian and
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a tyranny blah blah blah like no kings itself is just so silly like you know we're in the middle of a
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government shutdown trump isn't randomly stealing money or ordering the treasury to print more right
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to fund the government operations he's not ordering you know he's obeying every court order and then
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going to the supreme court and winning right this is not a guy who's disrespecting the basic
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you know limits on his article to power he's just asserting the prerogatives that have been there
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the whole time mm-hmm yeah that's what's so strange is like if trump were behaving like a king you would
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wouldn't be allowed to you wouldn't be allowed to protest we would have just banned the protest
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and arrested right why not yeah exactly it's like yeah maybe we should have yeah no kings but you know
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that's actually now they think about now that percolates a little bit you know maybe a caesar
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what is the story of why did why did the constitution replace the articles of confederation why did the
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founders create a strong executive branch it's because the articles of confederation were a mess
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the central government was so weak it couldn't do anything it couldn't collect taxes it couldn't put
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down riots it couldn't do anything you know hamilton is the deep thinker behind the the presidency
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and why it was created here it actually is created to be a fairly strong office it doesn't get the
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rights right to law but it adds every shred of executive power belongs to the president of the
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united states and one in just a single one because that person is supposed to act with energy and
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dispatch you know the in a way i think the boomers often oh here's another point i just thought of
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this the boomers political self-development matched nixon and matched the 70s which post nixon was the
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nadir of executive power in this country you think of all the different bills that were passed
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to deal with as correctives to the nixon era things like foia um you know all these restrictions on the
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executive branch so they grew up with the idea that it's important to have a weak executive
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to you know to protect liberty but that's not always true and certainly it's not not true in a world
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where you have this massive congressional sclerosis and you need the one guy who's elected by the
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entire country to use the executive power to yeah help move things forward yeah well that kind of
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gets at another point is i showed some pictures earlier but i mean people see for themselves
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they've kind of changed their optical strategy around a little bit and they're using a lot of
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appeals to our what they perceive as our founding principles right they would say like oh no kings for
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250 years what's with this 180 because a week ago they were like dragging columbus and calling
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him like a genocidal maniac and then a week later they're like appealing to thomas jefferson and stuff
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like that what is going on with this larp like this this this optical you know you know run around
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that they're trying to pull on us i think it's that it's that subtle tension between sort of more
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the boomer liberals and the younger liberals who don't really care that much about this democracy
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stuff they don't really care too much about historical traditions as far as the younger generation of
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lefties thinks it's that's all that's all scaffolding for oppression yeah so they don't really care but
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there's there's plenty of people in the democrat party who realize that they're not going to win
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the middle of the country if they're not seen as at least appealing to basic patriotic principles
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yeah so you have this tension between them where you have and then at the patriotic protest you have
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the woman mocking the assassination of charlie kirk it's just this this internal tension of the
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left that contains these people who want to say that trump is a tyrant we need to restore american ideals
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versus the people who are like actually a communist revolution would be great yeah well and beyond that the
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lady that was that was mocking the kirk assassination she was holding a mexican flag it's almost like you can't
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you can't even make this up like chat gpt wouldn't let you generate that like it's yeah it's so crazy
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but yeah go ahead no no you go first yeah well i was just saying like and then you compare that back to the
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la riots earlier this year where it was clearly just a mexican nationalist like i would say almost borderline
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insurgency that's what it certainly felt like i wasn't on the ground but that's that's how i perceive when you're shutting it on
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highways and attacking federal buildings um it's it's this weird this retconning where it's like the older boomers in the democrat party
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really just the older establishment i mean this includes the upper end of gen x as well
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grew up in a vastly different america than it exists now and so they're they're like kind of like guys what wait
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you know you're supposed to wave the american flag and and larp like what are you guys doing
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and like you're you're hitting on there's this massive divide and i don't know how much longer
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you know we're gonna see this democrat party that at least tries to make these you know appeals i think
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we're just going to see a third worldist party in the not too distant future i think that's right i think
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it's going to be a third worldist party i don't think that the the sort of patriotic old old school
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boomer liberals and i mean they just have a particular kind of patriotism but it at least is like an attempt
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to be patriotic yeah you know whereas you can pick you know the woman with the kirk assassination
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where holding a mexican plane his flag is making no effort to be a patriotic american right uh but
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the older generation is going to pass on it's going to be the you know us and you know the younger republicans
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dealing with the younger democrats and i think the younger democrats are indeed going to be a third worldist party
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a party driven by you know the resentments and animosities of the countries where they came from or the countries of their
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allies so you know mexican flags and palestinian flags and you name it that's going to be what drives the
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democratic party and so the republican party is going to be the pro-american party yeah well i mean
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zoran's like a great example of the future of the party like there's this whole attempt to try and clear
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the field for cuomo so then he can take on zoran 101 and it's like i get it right but you're just kicking
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the can for like four years down the road because the next if it's not zoran it's going to be another person
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pretty much exactly like him like that actually is the future of the democrats it's a feature not a
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bug of the new democrat party and um yeah and you're seeing with no kings obviously people are
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not afraid to mock charlie kirk it's like we're going to be dealing with a party that resembles
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like the eff in south africa the kill the boer party yes and yes people are not waking up to that
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and and this no kings i guess is buying them a little more time rhetorically but like you're going to
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get more and more zorans and it's the republicans are going to have to use you know get a little
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meaner i think yeah well it's just a realization that you know as long as we keep if we keep winning
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the presidency and we keep winning the bulk of the state houses because so many states are republican
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it's just about taking responsibility for being sovereign right like and i think tennessee is
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starting to do that you know tennessee said guess what we're going to make memphis safe now even
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if memphis has a local blue mayor we don't care it's right tennessee's a red state we're going to
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call the national guard we're going to restore order to memphis order to memphis similarly trump
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is talking about how he wants to bring order to san francisco bring order to other blue cities he
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should you know we we we we the republican party should be the party we're not the small government
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party we're the party of proper governance we're the proper party of law and order of you know legal
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migration of prosperity and flourishing for the people who have a legal right to be here yeah totally
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there's kind of one more sort of factor at play with the no kings is what we saw with the political
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violence the ramping up political violence to me that's actually an indication that the republicans
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are winning overwhelmingly where democrats feel like maybe the democrats but the sort of leftist
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elements of the democrat party feel like they're backed into a corner feel like they're completely shut
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out from political power and so they lash out with political violence because that's all they know how to
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do the no kings protest like obviously it was you know there was a fairly large turnout they're
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estimating five five million like that's not nothing right but at large the democrat party really
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just feels demoralized and that's a really worrying thing and i don't think these no kings protests
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are going to mask the reality which is that the democrat party is ultimately shot out of power
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they're realizing this with the shutdown they're realizing the republicans are like okay fine we'll just
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sit back and wait for you guys to come to the negotiating table it's a new look gop combined
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with a demoralized democrat party like where does this go how like this this doesn't look good from
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the calculus no and i think i mean they're really you know democrats kind of again it's it's what we
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talked about earlier the fact that the obama administration's legacy is so poor that nobody's
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sticking by it at all but there's nothing else motivating it and so you end up with a case where the only
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people with like a positive vision for the country or like at least something a vision itself right
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you know as as they'd say the big lebowski like at least it's an ethos the idea that but at least
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the communists have an idea of what they want to do sure and i don't know that the boomer liberals
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have an idea of what they want to do with power i don't know that they do i think they just want
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to hold on to it for its own sake and for their own sake yeah just stop people from deporting you
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know it's like an anti-deportation party i guess yeah but yeah and and you know you can see that
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with like they're trying to find a message and the only one they can land on is health care
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right they're like oh we're gonna make you know put our flag down and fight to deal with the you
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know bump in obamacare insurance premiums it's like well that begs the question like why why are
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those premiums gonna go up like crazy in the first place oh right because obamacare failed because
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obamacare is a mess and requires you know a trillion and a half in subsidies just to make it so that
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people can have unbelievably crappy health insurance like it's it's a completely miserable failure
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so they don't what what are they what's what's there what's motivating the moderate liberal left
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and as a result you find them being they're all like the people who are doing pods of america
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they're in the replies of assad piker right who's just an anti-american communist yeah uh another uh
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you know if not if not for the fact that he was born in new jersey would be a great candidate for
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denaturalization and deportation it's true uh but they're because because assad at least is saying
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like here's the project i want the dsa is at least saying here's what we're going to do
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we're going to be socialists yeah it's a terrible idea it's going to ruin everything but like it's
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something it's not nothing no it's true yeah i mean because yeah and you have this like yeah like
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you're talking about like this ezra klein i don't even call it a wing of the democrat party because i
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really don't think they actually have that many ears and and the democrat establishment i think like
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you said the older sort of rungs of the democrat party are really just concerned of maintaining
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political power and that's why you've got this schizophrenic messaging at the no kings protest like i was
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there bernie sanders got up and he was like railing on like elon musk and then you know like
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medi hassan gets up and he's like complaining about ice it's like they weren't even focused on like what
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specifically they had a problem about with trump beyond the fact that he's trump yeah and i think
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that's you know the never trump stuff is just completely lost run out of gas you know all the
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lawfare failed all every project to get rid of trump has completely failed at this point and now trump
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is that the apex of his power after 10 years of the democrat movement being solely focused on taking
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him down yeah um so it leaves them kind of bereft of a message and it's going to be hard for them to
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reconstruct out of this and i mean you look at the polling you know people don't blame trump for the
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shutdown yeah they think oh health care is good but you know the democrats should probably come to the
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table and i mean republicans are going to be willing to make some sort of deal they don't want health
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care insurance premiums despite you know 5x for people for a 10 percent of the population they don't
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want that so they'll figure out some sort of accommodation there uh but like that's what
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you're building your platform on and i guess the final point i would make or on that specifically is
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that you know what ezra klein is trying to do is this abundance thing but ezra klein knows that it's
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the crime issues and the illegal immigration use that are pissing everybody off but it's such a core
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part of the democratic party platform that you can't get rid of it yeah so what do you what do you
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even do like you know the republicans get to stand on well like we're just going to make like better
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for people by putting criminals in jail and deporting illegal immigrants and releasing
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liberating energy policies and making it easier to have a family yeah and like democrats are stuck on
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you know if there are three big issues in in that dominate american politics right now it's immigration
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crime in the economy and the democrats are on the 2080 side and two of them on immigration and crime
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yeah it's a disaster i mean that's even like no kings it's just they're not actually concerned about
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the pot they're on the wrong side of the policy they they're just convinced that it's maybe the
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messaging that's wrong so they keep trying to like repackage the messaging they trot out some
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like 25 year old who has like you know the hedge fund manager dad to like maybe try and like appeal
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to zoomers or something and it's like no it's the policy sucks like you can actually have terrible
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you can have terrible messaging but still get across the finish line with great policy the republicans
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did it they can yeah that's actually i mean think about how little you know how much how far
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trump had to work to win in 2016 and how how aligned the messaging forces of the world were
00:27:20.120
against him right but he was just the guy saying illegal immigration is bad crime is bad we should
00:27:25.120
kick our enemies asses we've had fair trade deals and and just a huge chunk of the country was like
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yeah that yeah we want we want that yeah we want we want that and immigration is horribly unpopular
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everywhere everywhere all right not just the united states it's it's it's the driver of every
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politics in a western country it's driver politics japan now too it doesn't matter where you are
00:27:46.260
like every every existing western society the popularity of immigration is just it's a at best
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65 35 against yeah and yeah so like if you're running on the wrong side of that you're just you're
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struggling for a message because the other side gets to say about because it's it's such a meta issue
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it controls how everything else in society works you know like you're talking about health care it's
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like okay but illegal immigration is a big driver of the cost of health care because illegal immigrants
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consume so much health care at the emergency room which is why you have everybody has to go to some
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crappy urgent care and get mediocre care there because they can't go to the emergency room because
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of the line is insane like it every you know housing crisis illegal immigration like you crime illegal
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immigration that all it all ties together yeah it's even it even trickles down to like the crappy
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manifestations of liberal democracy like i was in zambia and i was asking like a cab driver i was like what is
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the big problem and he's like it's these malawians coming in causing problems so it's like even like
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even in the heart of africa they're like fed up with illegal immigration so yeah it's true it's true
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everywhere and yeah i mean it's it's a fundamental source of tension in all these western democracies
00:28:52.300
and and until and unless i mean we're in a position we're lucky and we in the sense that uh we don't have
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the problems that like the united kingdom does or france does where they're having a whole new set of
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problems where they've got because they have mass muslim immigration which is i would say honestly
00:29:07.480
the worst time oh yeah frankly uh like you you know you have like outright islamist mps in britain
00:29:13.520
bragging about banning israeli soccer fans from showing up yeah to us uh thankfully we don't have
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that but it's an indicator it's a reminder that we need to make sure that you know the border is the
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one place we actually can't enforce these things because we have the first amendment protecting freedom
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of speech and freedom of religion in a way that the european countries don't so they can be more
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aggressive about dealing with the downsides of islamist politicians but we can't so we need to
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like make sure that there is not serious islamic immigration to our country yeah absolutely well
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we're we're running out of time so first of all happy diwali and uh where can people find
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in the spirit of mass migration yeah yeah you can find me at will chamberlain on x you can find the
00:29:52.180
article 3 project at a3paction.com where you can see what we're going what we have going on in terms of
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uh projects activism projects that you can email your set of reason representatives for
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uh and those are those are the two big places but follow me on x sweet love it well appreciate it
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will until next time absolutely all right all righty well that was the great will chamberlain that was
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fantastic he came in and uh he explained it all see i can't i can't sometimes i can't um sort of
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articulate at that high of a level so he comes in and just drives it home so i think still will
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