The Culture War - Tim Pool - The Great Police DEBATE w⧸ Michael Malice, Jason Ellis, Angry Cops, & Alex Stein

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, pardon me, I'm losing my voice, but I'll do my best.

00:00:21.500 This is the second live culture war at the DC Comedy Loft.

00:00:26.800 We've got a great panel here.

00:00:28.000 It's going to be a lot of fun.

00:00:28.660 It's going to be very funny.

00:00:29.360 I imagine it'll be a bit contentious.

00:00:31.340 This is the great police debate.

00:00:33.020 Why don't we start from the right and have everybody introduce themselves?

00:00:36.000 Hi, my name is Rich.

00:00:37.620 I do things on the internet, and I'm also a police officer on YouTubes called Angry Cops.

00:00:43.660 Yeah.

00:00:46.100 You guys know who I am?

00:00:47.680 Primetime 99, I am the pimp on a blimp, and I say, fuck the police!

00:00:53.600 I would gladly get fucked by that man.

00:00:56.980 No ditty.

00:00:57.720 Hey, everybody.

00:00:59.580 I am Michael Malice, and I'm here to remind you that the cops are not your friend, that

00:01:03.820 you can talk your way into an arrest, but you can't talk your way out of them.

00:01:11.060 I'm Jason Ellis.

00:01:12.080 I'm a criminal.

00:01:13.820 I was born in Australia, so I want to say fuck the police, but I really like them, but I

00:01:18.840 don't know.

00:01:19.160 Fuck everybody.

00:01:20.200 Right on.

00:01:21.380 Well, ladies and gentlemen, I am Tim Pool, your host, along with co-host Alex Stein.

00:01:26.340 This is going to be a lot of fun, and of course, I think to kick off the great conversation,

00:01:31.300 I will start with the truth, and that is no cop anywhere, for any reason, has ever done

00:01:37.300 anything wrong.

00:01:39.700 I disagree.

00:01:40.580 So you guys admit that you're corrupt?

00:01:44.920 Okay, debate, you lost.

00:01:46.980 Thanks for coming.

00:01:47.860 Yeah, you guys, let's get out of here.

00:01:49.340 I guess it's over.

00:01:51.040 We'll all give up now and let Baltimore go back to what it was.

00:01:53.840 Yeah, okay.

00:01:54.780 Because there's no cops in Baltimore.

00:01:56.240 What I want everyone here to realize, because this is something I'm being very serious now

00:02:01.100 despite dressing in my clown costume.

00:02:04.560 Imitation is the highest form of flattery.

00:02:07.020 Right.

00:02:07.900 Okay, if you think this is flattering, that speaks to you.

00:02:11.460 What I want to point out in all seriousness is it doesn't matter if you're Republican, Democrat,

00:02:16.620 communist, anarchist, fascist in your day-to-day life.

00:02:19.080 What matters is how you interact with the police, and you need to appreciate that they are not

00:02:25.200 there if they show up to never talk to the police.

00:02:28.000 They are there to hurt you by their own admission, and I want everyone to repeat after me something

00:02:32.820 very simple.

00:02:33.500 It's all I want you to think today.

00:02:35.020 Cops are human beings.

00:02:36.260 Can you repeat that after me?

00:02:37.100 One, two, three.

00:02:38.080 Cops are human beings.

00:02:39.940 And human beings are capable of great heroism and great evil, and you'll hear my colleague

00:02:45.620 throughout today acting as if cops aren't human beings, and they act differently than

00:02:49.740 other human beings.

00:02:50.580 They do not.

00:02:51.500 They are human beings, period, and that means certain corollaries, which I'm going to

00:02:55.200 I think most of us understand, and what you look forward to us exploring today.

00:02:58.060 So I have a question, because there's that famous Supreme Court justice.

00:03:02.540 Castle Rock?

00:03:03.420 Is that who that was?

00:03:04.080 And he said never talk to the police.

00:03:05.040 Oh, no, no.

00:03:05.500 He was a former attorney general.

00:03:07.220 Attorney general.

00:03:07.840 Yes.

00:03:08.060 Here's the issue, is that I've had people try to kill me and my family.

00:03:12.060 Who's talking over there?

00:03:12.960 Someone, they should not be.

00:03:15.320 Am I going to have to?

00:03:18.340 Already abusing authorities.

00:03:20.040 One of us.

00:03:21.680 One of us.

00:03:22.520 Okay, here's a serious question.

00:03:27.580 My family's been threatened.

00:03:29.260 We've had crazy people show up threatening us.

00:03:31.200 We had a guy show up to our old property and attack one of our employees.

00:03:36.660 I have no choice but to talk to the police.

00:03:38.880 Because of the police, correct.

00:03:40.100 So if you had a different kind of situation.

00:03:41.980 Well, no, because we want to stop them from doing it.

00:03:44.140 Did they do that?

00:03:45.540 The people, did they stop?

00:03:46.640 Yeah.

00:03:47.520 So I'll put it this way.

00:03:48.340 Did the cops do the job they claimed they were going to do?

00:03:50.800 Probably not.

00:03:51.580 It's like C+.

00:03:52.820 Okay, so here's the thing.

00:03:54.620 If you have a producer on your show.

00:03:58.880 I'm sorry if I'm interrupting your guys' conversation.

00:04:01.200 Shut the fuck up!

00:04:05.800 Disorderly conduct.

00:04:06.700 If you have a producer who's.

00:04:09.400 What is wrong with these people?

00:04:10.400 If you have a producer who's not doing their job, you get rid of them.

00:04:12.940 If you have a photographer, if you have a sidekick, co-host, whatever, you get rid of them.

00:04:17.900 It is when you have a monopoly on a service where there's absolutely no accountability.

00:04:22.240 If you watch any.

00:04:23.160 I know how many people here have been burglarized.

00:04:25.380 I hope it's few of you, but some of us have.

00:04:27.980 There's not even a.

00:04:28.880 If Amazon doesn't deliver a package, you get a refund or store credit.

00:04:32.260 If a store doesn't deliver a product, you get a refund or store credit.

00:04:35.080 It is only a monopoly when there's actually not even a pretense that, yeah, we're here to protect you, but if we didn't, well, tough shit, there's nothing.

00:04:42.440 We're not even going to pretend to do something about it.

00:04:44.780 And everyone just kind of takes this as a given because this is the world we grew up in.

00:04:49.520 And my point is it's not at all acceptable that someone who takes a job onto themselves and who doesn't deliver, you're just like, oh, well, what are you going to do?

00:04:58.380 That's all I'm saying.

00:04:59.240 Fair point.

00:05:00.140 We did hire private security after this.

00:05:01.600 You had to.

00:05:02.400 Yeah.

00:05:02.600 And you pay a lot in taxes.

00:05:04.100 And if that money was being used correctly, this problem wouldn't, those people would be in the ground.

00:05:09.220 Yeah, Rich.

00:05:09.800 And real quick, Rich.

00:05:10.800 I'm on Michael's side now.

00:05:11.700 Well, I want to say this, though.

00:05:12.940 As a black man, like, I get pulled over all the time for driving while black.

00:05:18.160 Yeah.

00:05:18.480 And you're always like, oh, you have weed.

00:05:21.100 Yeah, I have weed.

00:05:21.900 But, I mean, you shouldn't, I shouldn't be racially profiled by, you know, some bald asshole, you know, like yourself.

00:05:29.720 Stop slinging that big, fat, black dick and banging my white wife.

00:05:33.380 That's true.

00:05:34.760 You are right.

00:05:35.540 You have a good point.

00:05:36.620 So, yeah.

00:05:37.780 Yeah.

00:05:38.520 I just, you know, what do you say about that?

00:05:40.400 That sometimes some cops will target people or minorities.

00:05:45.640 Well, that's because we have small penises and we're jealous of the amount of money that they make tax-free from selling drugs.

00:05:50.100 This is my favorite cop.

00:05:51.220 This is a good cop.

00:05:52.280 And, Michael, you're very intelligent and I respect you and I'm glad that you dressed up like me.

00:05:57.680 Maybe unintentionally.

00:05:58.720 The feeling's not mutual.

00:05:59.440 But I would have to push back on the monopoly thing because there's tons of private enterprises that do private security work, including people that fight against the exploitation of children and work alongside police and do better than police because they're privatized.

00:06:12.940 Correct.

00:06:13.220 So, yeah.

00:06:15.220 We don't have a monopoly on protecting the Americans.

00:06:17.980 You have a monopoly on arrest.

00:06:19.260 You have a monopoly on putting people in jail.

00:06:21.300 And it's always a given that if there's an emergency, there's not a 911 that is like an Uber service where people who have to maybe be qualified, pass certain certifications, and then they can have a rating.

00:06:31.780 I'm sorry.

00:06:32.380 There is now.

00:06:33.300 We cover this.

00:06:33.920 It's called, like, Protect.

00:06:34.620 It's in California.

00:06:35.500 They're starting to make them.

00:06:36.240 Sure.

00:06:36.720 Uber for security.

00:06:37.740 That's exactly what should be universal.

00:06:39.320 And there's police boards that state or they go over, like, a police officer's background and their complaints and they're part of the community.

00:06:46.540 They're part of, like, a mayoral or something.

00:06:49.300 So we all know what happens in schools.

00:06:52.260 I know someone who's this mentally handicapped guy who's doing a lot of great work because teachers' unions do a great job of protecting the predators from having any consequences for their behavior.

00:07:01.740 It's very true.

00:07:02.420 And do you know why?

00:07:03.640 Because teachers are human beings.

00:07:05.240 And unions will act in a certain way.

00:07:07.720 They will protect their own, and that is their job to protect their own.

00:07:10.900 So when teachers act inappropriately, it takes a lot to get them fired.

00:07:16.000 And here's the thing.

00:07:17.580 I know, I know that my colleague and I can't lie because cops only tell the truth.

00:07:22.100 Hashtag believe cops.

00:07:23.780 So everything I say, you should double check for yourselves, right?

00:07:28.860 So Google what, like, teachers' unions and sexual abuse, and the results will shock you.

00:07:34.540 Now, the idea that the police unions are going to be any different would only be true if cops aren't human beings.

00:07:40.880 They are human beings.

00:07:42.120 And unions act identically regardless of the field.

00:07:45.020 Their job is to protect their own people from any consequences.

00:07:48.440 And there's story after story.

00:07:50.560 Let's look at the Eric Garner case.

00:07:51.860 What, how much money would Nancy Pelosi have to give you to put your hands on someone for selling cigarettes?

00:07:58.820 It's insane.

00:07:59.880 And none of those people lost their jobs or had any consequences for it.

00:08:02.620 The only person who went to jail in that situation was the photographer.

00:08:06.140 Is your mustache coming out of your nose?

00:08:10.680 It's so tight.

00:08:11.820 You guys can't see it.

00:08:12.820 It's like right in the hole.

00:08:14.500 It's rooted in the brainstem.

00:08:16.620 So I have a question for you.

00:08:17.540 The brainstem's in the back.

00:08:19.500 So when I said that we had a—

00:08:20.800 But you wouldn't know that, right?

00:08:21.760 We had a crazy guy come to our property, attack one of the residents there.

00:08:26.540 I said, I have to call the police.

00:08:27.820 I talked to the police.

00:08:28.360 And you said, because the police make me.

00:08:30.160 Who is going to track this person down and identify them and then lock them up if there were no police?

00:08:36.240 Well, I don't think that person necessarily should be locked up.

00:08:38.580 I think that person should be in the ground, frankly, number one.

00:08:41.220 Number two is I don't really know necessarily what the alternative would be.

00:08:45.160 If only we had somebody to investigate it.

00:08:49.140 Okay.

00:08:50.860 See, I'm going to finish.

00:08:51.880 He's going to have to use a lot of sarcasm and, quote-unquote, humor because he knows his position is indefensible.

00:08:57.880 Oh, he's funny.

00:09:00.180 I'm not finished.

00:09:02.820 You are finished.

00:09:03.860 You trashed it and then you said you don't have an answer to it.

00:09:07.480 He's a black woman and he has the right to speak.

00:09:10.120 Okay.

00:09:10.400 You talking about me or him?

00:09:12.120 Yes.

00:09:12.600 Okay.

00:09:13.080 In that case, I'm finished.

00:09:15.420 Okay, but here's the point.

00:09:16.720 You said that guy should have been in the ground.

00:09:18.680 Yeah.

00:09:20.660 In this scenario, when someone comes into my property and attacks one of the residents, you would agree that –

00:09:26.880 or is the position then put him down, shoot him?

00:09:29.440 Yeah.

00:09:31.180 And let's talk about how the cops enable this sort of situation.

00:09:34.420 So, okay.

00:09:36.360 I don't want to address that one yet.

00:09:38.640 Yeah, sure.

00:09:39.040 So, if you look at cases like Jordan Neely in New York, if you look at the 2020 riots – this is a great example of this – the cops have no interest or obligation to enforce the law.

00:09:51.060 Every so often, they're just going to say, yeah, you know what, we're not going to do anything about it.

00:09:55.400 And you have absolutely no recourse.

00:09:57.220 In fact, they are far more interested in arresting and persecuting people who are there enforcing the public safety than they are in attacking and harming criminals.

00:10:08.500 Like I said earlier, if someone burglarizes your house, you're going to have no consequences whatsoever.

00:10:13.200 But if that person steals from a CVS or whatever, they're on the streets in five minutes and the cops just shrug their shoulders.

00:10:19.800 The cops have a lot of influence with the politicians who give them orders.

00:10:24.320 And you do not hear them saying, wait a minute, you guys are legalizing shoplifting and this is causing problems in the community because they are just there to follow orders.

00:10:33.340 Now, I do not – cops, again, are human beings.

00:10:35.960 They are not sociopaths.

00:10:37.620 They just follow orders from them.

00:10:39.520 And that, I think, is something far worse than not having a sense of right and wrong yourself.

00:10:44.040 It's when you take obedient orders from people who are depraved like Gavin Newsom, like Nancy Pelosi, and just close your eyes and do whatever they tell you.

00:10:52.040 So, regarding your situation, it is crazy to me that the only solution we put forward is you have to call the government and the government is not going to do a good job of it.

00:11:04.640 So, I'm not going to even deny for the sake of this debate that the cops are a necessary evil.

00:11:08.940 But I'm just going to have everyone walk away, I hope, tonight with understanding that nevertheless they are an evil.

00:11:14.700 But it sounds like your argument is more so because we're forced to pay for it.

00:11:17.940 Well, it's not that – A, we're forced to pay for it, but B, they're not doing what we're paying for.

00:11:23.860 I have no problem with, like, food stamps, right?

00:11:25.960 We're forced to pay for it.

00:11:27.000 But if no one's starving, great.

00:11:28.720 And if it's wasteful, I don't fucking care.

00:11:30.340 Like, I don't want to see starving kids.

00:11:31.580 You know what I mean?

00:11:32.180 But if you're going to take money for security, why is there any crime at all?

00:11:38.620 Oh, man, I've got, like, so many rebuttals to the thing that you said.

00:11:41.040 I wish I had a notepad.

00:11:42.320 One, why do police officers get unions?

00:11:45.060 Unions are bad.

00:11:45.640 They only protect the person.

00:11:46.420 Because there's bad people that take advantage of complaint systems, so then they complain about police officers that are proactive.

00:11:51.940 Two, if you don't want police officers showing up, how do you want us to be proactive?

00:11:55.100 You don't want us to be proactive, but you want us to show up when a crime happens and solve it.

00:11:58.940 But you don't want us to be proactive to stop the burglary from happening at Tim's house.

00:12:01.840 Second, what was the other one?

00:12:04.540 There was another one.

00:12:05.580 There was another one.

00:12:06.620 Shooting the guy dead?

00:12:07.640 Shooting the guy dead.

00:12:08.500 Well, that's not good.

00:12:09.260 What if he's accidentally trespassing even though you didn't properly label the science?

00:12:12.140 Now, you killed somebody without justification, so we have to make sure that happens.

00:12:15.000 How does that happen?

00:12:15.660 Again, rules set in place by the government, whether it's local, city, county, et cetera.

00:12:20.080 Geez, what did he just end on?

00:12:21.540 I don't know, but Rich, I have a question.

00:12:22.900 No, no, no.

00:12:23.460 I have to take a point because he did something that's very dangerous, and I want you all to realize what he just did.

00:12:28.260 I'm a dangerous man.

00:12:28.960 You are because you can kill people with no consequences.

00:12:31.720 That's not true at all.

00:12:32.460 Okay, cool.

00:12:33.020 There are some consequences.

00:12:33.820 Hold on.

00:12:34.280 I just dealt with riots from George Floyd.

00:12:36.380 Okay, that's cool.

00:12:37.340 I'm speaking now.

00:12:38.160 No cop ever does anything bad.

00:12:41.040 Just like if you go to jail, no one's a criminal.

00:12:42.620 Just ask them.

00:12:43.320 But again, he's one of the good ones.

00:12:44.500 It wouldn't apply to me.

00:12:45.800 He said that I don't want the cops to be proactive.

00:12:50.940 That speaks to motive.

00:12:52.420 Now, imagine if I have drugs, its intention to distribute, if we're talking about man's order versus murder, talking about motive.

00:12:59.580 He is comfortable getting on a mic in front of everyone that's being taped and putting words in my mouth.

00:13:06.120 Now, imagine a cop has a bad day, you're arrested, and he has to testify.

00:13:09.840 He will have no problem saying, I heard him say it.

00:13:11.740 I heard him say he doesn't want us to be proactive.

00:13:13.240 Now, it's your word against his, and you've got a jury, half of whom are going to be complete idiots and think the opposite of you.

00:13:19.960 It's two against one.

00:13:20.860 And this happens all the time.

00:13:23.160 I don't care what anyone thinks about me tonight.

00:13:25.060 I care about what you walk away with and realize if you talk to the cop, you just saw he didn't hear everything I said and remember everything I said, I don't blame him.

00:13:32.360 But what happens when he writes that police report?

00:13:34.180 What happens when he testifies against you?

00:13:35.940 You are fucked.

00:13:37.560 Well, I just want to say this, and Michael makes some good points, and I would say overall cops probably aren't bad, Rich, but my question for you is when you looked at the pandemic and you saw some like the mask police,

00:13:48.320 that they're actually using people like yourself to enforce stuff like wearing a mask.

00:13:52.600 Like, is there a line that you would draw where you're like, hey, listen, I believe in the First Amendment more than I believe in my superior telling me what to do?

00:14:01.700 Yeah.

00:14:02.040 Or are you just going to follow orders blindly like Michael says?

00:14:04.860 Because a lot of cops did, but a lot of cops were gracious to people like myself that didn't wear masks.

00:14:08.840 So I guess how much personal responsibility do you get even as an officer?

00:14:13.740 So I want to say that Michael is right in some aspect of this, right?

00:14:18.680 There are people that follow rules, and those rules are bad, and they shouldn't follow them.

00:14:22.740 However, on the same side or opposite side of the same coin, there's a thing called police discretion, which I've used before,

00:14:29.040 which says that if I look at something as an individual that happens to be a police officer and I deem that I don't want to do anything about it, good or bad, we can debate that later, I can choose not to.

00:14:38.680 And I'll give you a personal example of how I did it in the right way, and that's New York State has very strict firearm policies.

00:14:44.280 I had somebody that came from out of state that had a legal permit from out of state, but in New York State didn't recognize that pistol permit.

00:14:50.700 I pull him over. He had marijuana at the time. It was illegal. I pull him out, search the marijuana.

00:14:55.560 He tells me he has a firearm in the car he's carrying legally. He's not in New York State. What do I do?

00:15:01.800 I unload the firearm, put the firearm in the glove compartment, I put the ammo on his seat, and I say, hey, I'm not one of those New York City cops that doesn't like guns.

00:15:10.560 I'm all about you carrying legally. Go home. If you load it, keep it in your hand, in your, whatchamacallit, glove compartment.

00:15:18.440 Thank you. And you'd be great on the stand. And take it back to the state that you're from. Make sure you follow all traffic laws.

00:15:26.860 I'm all for freedom as long as it's legal. What he just admitted to everybody, shamelessly, is that he only enforces the law when he feels like it.

00:15:36.440 There is no...

00:15:37.380 Oh, come on. He's saying that he uses discretion. I think that's, I mean, I think that's a little different.

00:15:42.120 I think Michael doesn't like that at all. No, no, no, no, no. Let him speak. Let him cook. Let him cook.

00:15:47.480 There's no other product or service where if the person has a good day or bad day, it's what's going to happen as a result of it.

00:15:55.800 That's not true. That's not true.

00:15:57.900 You go to any store and you ask the barista for coffee, they're not going to be like, nah, I'm not going to give you coffee.

00:16:02.420 What about the, what is it, the Malaysian flight MH370, right? That pilot was having a bad day and then they all died.

00:16:09.920 We're talking about America.

00:16:10.920 No, they got teleported away by orbs in the sky.

00:16:14.240 Michael, the bartenders right there can get in trouble for over-serving and they can choose not to over-serve you, isn't that...

00:16:19.420 Sure. So, anyway, what I'm trying to say is...

00:16:22.140 Ignore it.

00:16:22.480 I am going to ignore it because this is a distraction because the bartender doesn't have the problem to put you in a cage.

00:16:27.480 Only cops have the discretion, as he pointed out, that at any time they can throw you in the back of their cop car, throw you in a cell, say disorderly conduct.

00:16:36.360 They've got... And the thing is, cops come in pairs. They have to, right? They have to have backup and that makes sense.

00:16:41.500 So, I brought my backup here as well. One second.

00:16:43.680 Oh, my God. I'm so excited.

00:16:45.980 I hope you brought me a wig.

00:16:47.620 This is Officer Oink Salon.

00:16:51.060 Yeah, Oink Oink.

00:16:53.120 I wish you would have called him Babe.

00:16:56.040 No, Babe's cute and shouldn't be shot.

00:16:59.500 Wait, that's a boar, not a pig.

00:17:01.380 Yeah, because inside every cop is a feral pig that is one comment away from putting your head through a wall.

00:17:11.820 What's that, Officer Oink Salon? Google domestic violence rates in police.

00:17:15.520 Well, you shouldn't trust what this pig has to say, but I would hope everyone at home Googles that.

00:17:21.020 And here's something else about the police.

00:17:22.860 In the same way that obnoxious people who talk too much are drawn to podcasting, as the three of us can attest.

00:17:29.880 Everyone up here.

00:17:30.720 Everyone up here.

00:17:31.280 And in the same way that people who want to prey on children go to where the children are, violent people are going to be drawn to jobs where they're able to use violence without impunity.

00:17:42.140 It's a small percentage.

00:17:43.380 Let me be clear.

00:17:44.060 But cops are human beings, and human beings act in certain ways.

00:17:48.480 So if I'm someone who's a sociopath, I'm going to be a politician.

00:17:51.400 If I'm a loudmouth asshole, I'm going to be a podcaster.

00:17:53.880 And if I'm someone who likes to take out his violence and other people legally, I'm going to end up as a cop.

00:17:58.700 Well, actually, I have a question.

00:17:59.640 I take that personally, Michael.

00:18:00.120 Wait, no, I want to ask this question, though, Michael.

00:18:01.460 Would you think it would be better if we used AI robots as cops?

00:18:05.720 Better in what way?

00:18:06.600 Like, do you think that that would help protect citizens more if these were AI robots doing this?

00:18:11.280 I depend on who would program the AI.

00:18:13.320 Did you see Elysium?

00:18:14.580 They were very mean in that.

00:18:15.640 That's what I'm saying.

00:18:16.280 That movie, the AI cops are dickheads.

00:18:18.220 You're not even allowed to do sarcastic robot voice.

00:18:20.520 They didn't even use discretion.

00:18:21.940 I can't speak to that.

00:18:22.680 Yeah, see?

00:18:23.140 So, I don't know.

00:18:24.420 They broke that dude's arm for no reason.

00:18:26.200 That never happens in real life.

00:18:27.320 Michael, I have a question.

00:18:29.160 I don't answer questions from police.

00:18:30.760 I love that you said that.

00:18:32.060 That's good.

00:18:33.880 Don't ever do it.

00:18:36.120 I'm not.

00:18:36.480 Here's why.

00:18:37.720 There's two people in America who think words are violence.

00:18:41.320 Social justice warriors and cops.

00:18:43.800 If I call Alex the N-word, which I do all the time, and I will again.

00:18:48.280 I didn't hear it, but I wish I did.

00:18:49.920 I see our text messages.

00:18:50.940 They're bad.

00:18:52.040 There's plenty of leftists who will tell you that it's appropriate for him to beat me in a coma

00:18:56.680 because, hey, you shouldn't be calling black people the N-word.

00:18:59.980 Cops are the only other group where if you say the wrong thing, they feel entitled to knock you into a coma and pat themselves on the back for it.

00:19:07.920 Anyway, so you said that because the job requires violence, so there's like a level of violence that has to be.

00:19:18.320 I didn't say that.

00:19:19.260 What did you say?

00:19:19.960 Is it something that cops draw people because it is a job of violence?

00:19:22.340 Do you know what I'm saying before you try to quote me?

00:19:24.020 That's why I asked you.

00:19:25.020 I'm not answering questions from the police.

00:19:26.960 Well, you're not very good at debating.

00:19:28.380 I'm not debating you.

00:19:30.400 This is a debate, isn't it?

00:19:31.760 What about a conversation?

00:19:32.840 Can we be friends?

00:19:35.440 Why can't we be friends?

00:19:38.140 Why can't we be friends?

00:19:41.140 Why can't we be friends?

00:19:44.180 Why can't we be friends?

00:19:44.960 He's trying to love Bob Michael to trick him into being friends with Paul.

00:19:48.260 Here's how cops operate, and he's using another technique.

00:19:51.540 They're singing and being nice.

00:19:53.500 They come to interview you.

00:19:55.580 He's, hey, my partner's crazy.

00:19:57.640 My partner's a madman.

00:19:59.000 I'm the nice one.

00:19:59.700 I'm just trying to help you.

00:20:00.580 Alex is crazy.

00:20:01.480 Just answer a few questions.

00:20:03.000 I'll be on my way.

00:20:03.980 It'll be cool.

00:20:05.420 You answer the few questions.

00:20:06.880 If I go to Tim, I go, hey, Tim, I got to put up a painting in my house.

00:20:10.760 Can I borrow a power tool?

00:20:11.860 Sure.

00:20:12.480 And then I go, oh, by the way, Tim, this power tool,

00:20:14.860 I can and will use this against you.

00:20:16.320 All of a sudden, it's like, whoa, hey, hey, hey, hey.

00:20:19.600 They tell you explicitly anything you say can and will be used against you.

00:20:25.480 And here's something else.

00:20:26.640 If you tell a cop something that would help your side of the story in a lawsuit,

00:20:31.560 in a criminal case, that's hearsay.

00:20:33.960 Oh, he said, but if he doesn't remember something you said

00:20:37.660 or gets it a little wrong like he did repeatedly today,

00:20:40.780 all of a sudden it's his word against yours,

00:20:43.120 and now your story doesn't add up,

00:20:44.400 and now you're a liar.

00:20:45.580 And now very quickly, bad things are going to happen to you as a consequence.

00:20:48.920 Well, actually, I want to-

00:20:49.620 Don't ever talk to the police without an attorney.

00:20:51.280 Michael has a good point.

00:20:52.800 And I want you to answer this, though, Rich,

00:20:54.260 because you know you deal with these interrogations and people you-

00:20:57.000 Interviews.

00:20:57.700 Interviews.

00:20:58.340 Interviews, whatever.

00:20:59.280 Soft words.

00:21:00.320 Kind hands.

00:21:00.840 You give them their Miranda rights,

00:21:02.460 and you know that most people you deal with are retarded,

00:21:04.720 and they don't even understand their Miranda rights.

00:21:06.680 My mom are just like you, yes.

00:21:07.760 I admit that I am retarded.

00:21:09.900 My point is, you're dealing with people that don't realize

00:21:13.820 that they are incriminating themselves.

00:21:15.560 Michael does have a point in that they actually are afforded a free attorney.

00:21:19.420 And oftentimes, I watch the first 48,

00:21:21.260 and you see the dude in there that double-murdered somebody.

00:21:24.280 A couple times, you're like,

00:21:25.060 hey, where's my attorney?

00:21:25.820 Where's my attorney?

00:21:26.720 And then the guy will end up still talking

00:21:28.360 because they give him like a Pepsi Coke, you know?

00:21:30.220 Delicious.

00:21:31.120 What I'm saying is-

00:21:32.000 You know, it brought the world together.

00:21:33.120 Caitlyn Jenner did it.

00:21:34.300 She did.

00:21:34.840 Notice how he's changing the subject.

00:21:36.400 That ended racism.

00:21:38.220 But what I'm talking about,

00:21:39.080 you know that they don't even understand

00:21:40.620 that they would get a free attorney

00:21:41.780 that would tell them to shut the fuck up,

00:21:43.920 and you still ask them questions.

00:21:45.380 So do you ever feel a little guilty

00:21:46.660 because you are taking advantage of somebody

00:21:48.140 that doesn't realize the situation?

00:21:50.020 Just because you're dumb

00:21:50.820 doesn't mean that you don't understand the words

00:21:52.480 that I literally read for you from other people.

00:21:54.240 That's what dumb means, not understanding things.

00:21:55.980 But real quick, though,

00:21:56.680 you understand that it is a challenging thing.

00:21:59.400 You give them the Miranda rights one time.

00:22:02.120 Sure.

00:22:02.380 They might not understand the concept

00:22:04.000 that they get a free attorney.

00:22:05.180 Well, that's why I ask them,

00:22:06.300 do you understand these rights

00:22:07.360 that I've just read to you?

00:22:08.240 And they have to respond.

00:22:08.860 I understand that you asked that question.

00:22:09.720 And then follow-up question,

00:22:11.140 I have to ask,

00:22:13.280 knowing these rights in mind,

00:22:14.360 having these rights in mind,

00:22:15.540 would you like to talk to me now?

00:22:16.700 I have the card.

00:22:17.680 I know that.

00:22:18.600 He's got it.

00:22:20.040 Hold on, just in case we all forgot.

00:22:21.480 But you know that you are asking questions to a person.

00:22:25.140 It doesn't even matter if you sat there for 10 minutes

00:22:26.980 and lectured them on what legal rights they had.

00:22:29.500 They still would not understand what it is

00:22:31.560 because some people have a 70 IQ.

00:22:33.920 Do you ever feel guilty for them

00:22:36.600 basically not taking advantage of their legal rights,

00:22:38.640 like a free attorney?

00:22:39.880 So, the amount of people that I've questioned

00:22:42.600 that I've read their Miranda rights to,

00:22:45.100 which start off with,

00:22:46.320 you have the right to remain silent.

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00:23:46.760 If you don't understand that,

00:23:49.400 or if you choose,

00:23:51.000 but there's a difference here.

00:23:51.860 Everybody's talking about like,

00:23:53.080 are you smart enough to understand it?

00:23:54.580 If I say you have the right to remain silent,

00:23:57.240 and then I continue to question you,

00:23:59.100 and you say,

00:24:00.700 okay, I would like to be questioned.

00:24:04.640 There's no much more I can do.

00:24:05.980 I'm not a psychologist.

00:24:07.080 If lawyers want to then take up that aspect of saying,

00:24:10.060 hey, Alex is so dumb.

00:24:12.920 How dumb is Alex?

00:24:15.800 Alex doesn't know when to shut up.

00:24:18.140 And then there, they can argue that.

00:24:20.920 But unless you're of noticeable mental decline,

00:24:25.460 I'm going to read you your Miranda rights.

00:24:27.460 I'm going to ask you at the end of them,

00:24:29.940 do you understand each of these rights

00:24:31.400 I have explained to you,

00:24:32.260 having these rights in mind?

00:24:33.240 Do you wish to talk to us now?

00:24:34.760 And you say, yes,

00:24:36.120 then I'm going to talk to you.

00:24:37.420 How about this?

00:24:38.300 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:24:40.840 I got one thing.

00:24:42.680 Notice he's not even pretending

00:24:43.900 that he's going to help the person.

00:24:45.400 I'm not a psychologist.

00:24:46.840 We've all talked to people.

00:24:48.300 Who am I helping?

00:24:49.100 We've all talked to people.

00:24:50.340 No one.

00:24:50.920 That's the point.

00:24:51.600 The victim?

00:24:51.880 We've all talked to people.

00:24:53.260 Maybe the victim.

00:24:53.740 Someone who's innocent until proven guilty.

00:24:55.700 He's somebody who's questioning.

00:24:56.620 We've all talked to people.

00:24:57.940 You explain something to them.

00:24:58.780 You realize, okay,

00:24:59.720 this person has no idea

00:25:00.280 what the fuck I'm just talking about.

00:25:01.300 And that's happened to him repeatedly.

00:25:02.580 But he knows,

00:25:03.540 as long as he's got the assent,

00:25:04.660 just like when you check up

00:25:05.320 the terms of service

00:25:06.200 on some website or thing,

00:25:08.160 his hands are clean,

00:25:10.160 and he can go and pursue

00:25:11.160 the arrest and the conviction.

00:25:12.740 So you finished that,

00:25:15.960 Miranda writes with,

00:25:17.420 do you want to talk to me?

00:25:18.320 Yes or no?

00:25:18.880 Correct.

00:25:19.060 Whether the person answers yes or no

00:25:20.860 indicates some understanding.

00:25:24.920 And it sounds like

00:25:25.880 what you're asking, Alex,

00:25:27.420 do you ever feel guilty

00:25:28.440 because maybe they actually don't.

00:25:29.960 What if the person wants

00:25:30.980 to talk to the cops

00:25:31.720 and they accidentally say no

00:25:33.020 because they don't understand it?

00:25:34.320 They can misunderstand it.

00:25:35.540 It never works that way, Tim.

00:25:36.700 It never happens

00:25:37.320 where they accidentally ask

00:25:38.400 for an attorney and get one.

00:25:39.700 No, I'm saying the cops are like,

00:25:41.640 do you want to talk to us?

00:25:42.340 The guy might be thinking,

00:25:43.800 I understand what you're saying.

00:25:45.260 My point is logically

00:25:46.240 it can go either direction.

00:25:47.820 Logically, it goes in one direction.

00:25:50.420 Get away from it

00:25:51.420 with your metal teeth, guy.

00:25:53.520 But before we go to the audience,

00:25:55.860 I do want to ask Michael.

00:25:56.740 I was going to respond.

00:25:57.460 If there were no police...

00:25:58.720 Respond, respond.

00:25:59.180 That's a good question.

00:25:59.920 Okay.

00:26:00.620 So if you feel like

00:26:04.380 police officers taking advantage

00:26:06.740 of people that don't understand

00:26:08.220 their rights or don't understand

00:26:09.560 the conversation that they've been in,

00:26:11.600 I would ask you to bring me

00:26:13.560 with some sort of storage

00:26:15.040 just bring something up

00:26:15.860 where you were having

00:26:16.800 a conversation with somebody

00:26:18.160 who felt as though

00:26:19.480 they could not talk to you

00:26:20.880 or didn't understand

00:26:22.120 the conversation

00:26:22.880 and then you continue

00:26:24.300 to have a conversation with them.

00:26:25.920 I'm saying the inverse.

00:26:27.240 My argument is more

00:26:28.260 for what Alex is saying.

00:26:29.140 Alex is saying

00:26:29.700 there are some people

00:26:30.920 who don't understand

00:26:31.920 and they'll talk to you anyway.

00:26:33.940 My argument is

00:26:34.600 the statement of

00:26:35.380 do you want to talk to me

00:26:36.220 can go yes or no.

00:26:37.560 Correct.

00:26:37.840 Misunderstand in either direction.

00:26:39.560 Meaning, I understand the point.

00:26:40.920 It's probably rare

00:26:41.480 and maybe it's a stupid point.

00:26:42.560 I don't know.

00:26:42.980 But there may be some people

00:26:43.980 who want to explain

00:26:44.940 to the police

00:26:45.540 something that happened.

00:26:47.260 It may slightly be incriminating

00:26:48.700 but they're worried

00:26:49.200 about having their kneecaps

00:26:49.940 bashed in by gangs

00:26:50.840 and they're like

00:26:51.760 I don't understand

00:26:52.300 what this means

00:26:52.600 so I'm not going to say anything.

00:26:53.600 If you want a what if

00:26:54.560 every legal thing

00:26:55.840 I'm with you

00:26:56.700 but I would need something

00:26:58.240 for me to bounce off of.

00:26:59.520 What's that?

00:27:00.980 I didn't follow the question either.

00:27:02.160 Okay.

00:27:03.420 My friends.

00:27:06.480 Now we're finally friends.

00:27:08.120 Don't touch me.

00:27:08.700 That's assault.

00:27:09.280 Not consensual

00:27:09.980 so I'm not doing anything.

00:27:11.240 Let me just ask you Michael.

00:27:12.660 Before we're going to this.

00:27:13.380 I'm not even kidding at all.

00:27:14.800 No, no.

00:27:15.640 I'm going to say this point.

00:27:17.520 Notice how comfortable

00:27:18.420 a cop is getting in your face

00:27:19.800 and my point earlier is

00:27:21.020 I'm not joking.

00:27:21.540 It was to your backside, sir.

00:27:22.780 I'm not joking.

00:27:24.980 Laugh.

00:27:25.800 You should laugh right now

00:27:26.840 because that's obviously humorous.

00:27:28.820 Now imagine what happens

00:27:29.740 when there's no cameras

00:27:30.540 and there's no witnesses

00:27:31.900 and he's in a bad mood.

00:27:33.720 All of a sudden

00:27:34.420 he's going to be very happy

00:27:35.460 to remind you

00:27:36.100 of your place in life

00:27:37.120 and who you should be talking to

00:27:38.780 with a polite mouth voice.

00:27:40.680 So before we go to the audience

00:27:41.760 I do want to ask

00:27:42.360 what would we have

00:27:44.000 if there were no police?

00:27:45.880 Well, we need security.

00:27:47.320 So this idea of

00:27:48.900 Security like the people

00:27:49.940 that try to get me

00:27:51.000 to stop skating

00:27:51.720 some ledge

00:27:52.240 at the front of a building

00:27:53.060 and they're fucking dickheads.

00:27:54.600 Yeah, they suck.

00:27:55.600 Yeah, specifically those people.

00:27:57.980 Only them.

00:27:58.740 We want to clone them.

00:27:59.780 Great contribution.

00:28:02.040 Security is

00:28:03.020 an extremely important thing.

00:28:05.160 These movements

00:28:05.800 that you see

00:28:06.540 in these big cities

00:28:07.440 to defund the police

00:28:08.700 are to me insane

00:28:10.380 because they're defunding

00:28:11.840 they're defunding them

00:28:13.200 to a point

00:28:13.920 but they're keeping them

00:28:15.200 in place

00:28:15.720 to make sure people

00:28:16.540 can't protect themselves.

00:28:18.160 So you have the police

00:28:19.220 taking out Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:28:21.360 You have them taking out

00:28:22.380 Daniel Penny

00:28:23.220 but everybody else

00:28:24.540 is rendered helpless

00:28:25.380 and defenseless.

00:28:26.300 So security

00:28:27.260 is far too important

00:28:28.540 of a job

00:28:29.200 to be left to a monopoly

00:28:30.660 let alone a government monopoly.

00:28:32.420 We need police accountability

00:28:33.700 and we need private security

00:28:35.040 to increase.

00:28:36.660 But as it is now

00:28:37.720 there is no accountability

00:28:39.100 and the people

00:28:40.220 who are the

00:28:40.620 if you're in New York

00:28:41.760 one of the reasons

00:28:42.220 I moved to Austin

00:28:42.880 thank God I did

00:28:44.220 is because

00:28:45.160 I thank you

00:28:46.020 I knew

00:28:46.980 if someone broke

00:28:47.980 into my house

00:28:48.700 and I have pretty cool shit

00:28:49.640 and I tried to defend myself

00:28:51.340 especially with a firearm

00:28:52.300 it's far more likely

00:28:53.780 that the law

00:28:54.320 would fall upon me

00:28:55.280 than upon the guy

00:28:56.560 breaking into my house.

00:28:57.540 We see this over and over

00:28:58.440 and those laws

00:28:59.720 are enforced

00:29:00.400 and only enforced

00:29:01.340 by the police.

00:29:03.640 So

00:29:03.660 oh

00:29:04.660 fuck

00:29:05.880 no

00:29:06.340 come on

00:29:07.060 no

00:29:07.780 those laws

00:29:09.580 are enforced

00:29:10.440 by the district

00:29:11.540 attorney's office

00:29:12.340 and the politicians

00:29:13.340 that you elect

00:29:14.220 it's not my fault

00:29:15.540 that you decided

00:29:16.120 to live in a shitty city

00:29:17.180 with bad rules

00:29:17.960 that I choose to ignore

00:29:19.580 because I believe

00:29:20.740 in the second amendment.

00:29:21.820 You chose to live

00:29:22.780 in a state

00:29:23.240 that says

00:29:23.740 here are the guidelines

00:29:24.780 and then you go

00:29:25.880 it's the cops fault

00:29:27.100 that they put handcuffs

00:29:28.240 on me

00:29:28.660 not at all

00:29:29.520 for the fact

00:29:29.960 that there's a judge

00:29:30.860 a jury

00:29:31.700 a district attorney

00:29:32.780 a state senator

00:29:33.700 and a governor

00:29:34.600 that are all against you

00:29:35.560 not the cops

00:29:36.460 just because

00:29:37.200 we collect you

00:29:38.180 doesn't mean

00:29:38.760 we're responsible

00:29:39.320 for the end result.

00:29:40.340 So if I hire Tim

00:29:41.680 to kill Alex

00:29:42.760 which one of us

00:29:43.380 has committed a crime?

00:29:44.280 Both of you.

00:29:44.980 Right.

00:29:45.300 Thank you.

00:29:46.220 So just because

00:29:47.140 an evil person

00:29:48.080 tells you to do something

00:29:49.060 and you follow their orders

00:29:50.140 you're both committing

00:29:51.240 wrongdoing

00:29:52.020 and I want to ask

00:29:53.000 the people in this audience

00:29:53.940 how much money

00:29:55.380 how many people here

00:29:56.400 lost a loved one

00:29:57.380 during COVID?

00:29:59.120 Anyone?

00:29:59.700 Me.

00:30:00.140 Okay.

00:30:00.440 How many people

00:30:01.160 couldn't visit

00:30:02.880 their old folks

00:30:03.560 during COVID?

00:30:05.220 How many people

00:30:05.900 couldn't go to church

00:30:06.640 during COVID?

00:30:07.200 Right.

00:30:08.400 There we go.

00:30:09.180 How much money

00:30:10.380 would Joe Biden

00:30:11.560 have to pay you

00:30:12.500 to arrest someone

00:30:13.780 for trying to go to church?

00:30:14.920 Fuck Joe Biden!

00:30:18.380 Agreed.

00:30:19.020 Yeah!

00:30:20.660 Hell yeah!

00:30:23.860 All right.

00:30:24.180 Well let's...

00:30:24.600 How much money...

00:30:25.520 No, no, no.

00:30:25.960 How much money

00:30:26.540 would Officer Kamala Harris

00:30:27.640 have to pay you

00:30:28.540 to arrest someone

00:30:29.640 for having a funeral?

00:30:31.100 Fuck Kamala Harris!

00:30:32.180 All right.

00:30:32.300 Thank you.

00:30:35.080 No, no, no.

00:30:35.880 I'm going to finish my point.

00:30:37.800 We've all said earlier

00:30:38.820 that cops are human beings

00:30:39.900 but in one capacity

00:30:40.880 they're not

00:30:41.420 because what separates

00:30:42.720 humans from non-human animals

00:30:44.080 is our conscience.

00:30:45.380 And when you become a cop

00:30:46.500 you give yours away

00:30:47.400 you say,

00:30:48.400 I am going to do

00:30:49.420 what the sociopaths tell me

00:30:51.140 and if they tell me

00:30:52.260 to shut down

00:30:52.820 that lemonade stand

00:30:53.620 and make that little girl cry

00:30:54.660 I'm not going to lose

00:30:55.700 an ounce of sleep over it.

00:30:57.000 One quick question for Rich

00:30:58.200 before we go to the audience.

00:30:59.760 The police officers

00:31:00.780 who unconstitutionally

00:31:01.900 shut down churches

00:31:02.720 in New York

00:31:03.360 should they be arrested for that?

00:31:04.960 They should be charged.

00:31:06.040 All right.

00:31:06.640 You're here.

00:31:08.380 Constitutional question?

00:31:09.160 This is a big game.

00:31:09.520 Conspiracy against rights.

00:31:10.540 Let's get into the show, Tim.

00:31:11.940 Are you ready for this?

00:31:12.540 Let's go.

00:31:13.100 Are you guys ready for this?

00:31:14.140 Are you guys ready for this?

00:31:15.760 Let's get the energy going.

00:31:17.980 Okay, so what we're going to do

00:31:19.020 is we're going to call out a name.

00:31:20.300 You guys walk your ass

00:31:21.400 and hurry your ass

00:31:22.320 because we're going to have

00:31:23.160 a hard out at 5 p.m.

00:31:24.380 And remember to tip

00:31:25.340 your damn waitress.

00:31:26.520 DC's expensive.

00:31:27.220 Or waiter.

00:31:27.960 Or waiter, whatever.

00:31:29.080 And that's cool

00:31:29.640 if you're gay or trans

00:31:30.620 or tip them extra.

00:31:32.260 Tip them extra

00:31:33.120 just to be extra nice.

00:31:34.400 Give them a tip.

00:31:34.980 They lost theirs.

00:31:35.780 Get your ass over here

00:31:36.680 in this corner.

00:31:37.340 We're going to give you a minute.

00:31:38.680 Oh.

00:31:40.200 Huh?

00:31:40.740 And real quick,

00:31:41.740 I believe there may be

00:31:42.860 another autographed mustard

00:31:44.200 floating around somewhere.

00:31:45.400 There is indeed, Tim.

00:31:46.700 If you get it,

00:31:47.520 you get,

00:31:48.040 what are we doing,

00:31:48.440 a free board?

00:31:49.160 Yeah, you get a free skateboard.

00:31:50.180 Check your table

00:31:51.140 if your mustard bottle is signed.

00:31:53.320 Check your mustard

00:31:54.040 right now.

00:31:54.580 Let's get this out of the way.

00:31:55.700 Pick up your mustard.

00:31:57.000 But just come to us

00:31:57.900 after the show

00:31:58.420 with your mustard.

00:31:59.100 Let's get some people.

00:31:59.640 All right, let's get this going.

00:32:00.800 Now our first person,

00:32:03.220 Walt K.

00:32:04.200 Come on down.

00:32:05.100 Where's Walt K?

00:32:06.980 Where does Walt go?

00:32:07.860 I don't know.

00:32:08.380 Walter K.

00:32:09.380 Where does he go, though?

00:32:10.460 He goes to the right,

00:32:11.600 to that side of stage.

00:32:13.480 I don't see him.

00:32:14.440 I see you're moving slow, Walt.

00:32:15.880 Let's go.

00:32:16.640 Find the white man.

00:32:17.160 Over here.

00:32:17.880 Over here.

00:32:18.340 Get the lead out of your ass

00:32:19.800 and let's move.

00:32:20.280 This way, this way.

00:32:20.900 Right over here.

00:32:21.380 See me?

00:32:22.640 Big flashy white kid

00:32:24.060 in the white stuff.

00:32:24.840 Hey, let's...

00:32:25.140 To the right of stage!

00:32:26.320 Stop putting your hand up like that.

00:32:27.280 Open door hole!

00:32:28.360 Hurry!

00:32:28.940 Don't be shy!

00:32:29.480 All right, bro.

00:32:29.840 You got one minute.

00:32:31.080 All right, one minute for what?

00:32:32.260 What do you guys want?

00:32:35.760 First of all,

00:32:36.600 I'm going to go with...

00:32:37.180 All right, hold on,

00:32:37.900 hold on, hold on,

00:32:38.440 hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:32:39.600 All right, so...

00:32:41.080 I had an interaction

00:32:42.220 with the cops today.

00:32:43.420 It's my fault.

00:32:44.420 No, it's not your fault.

00:32:45.980 But I just got to look

00:32:48.080 at this generation of cops.

00:32:50.980 They are young as fuck.

00:32:52.540 Yep.

00:32:52.800 And I guess it's because

00:32:54.080 I'm getting older, right?

00:32:55.220 Yeah.

00:32:56.040 And so I just...

00:32:59.060 The EMTs that even showed up,

00:33:00.720 they looked like they were 15, 16.

00:33:02.400 I'm like, what the fuck?

00:33:04.360 But I guess my point is

00:33:06.060 they didn't look like big, burly men.

00:33:09.040 They're not like you.

00:33:10.160 They're not like Tim.

00:33:11.300 They're not like Alex Stein,

00:33:12.640 who looks...

00:33:13.520 Are you on an Ozempic?

00:33:14.800 No, no, no, no.

00:33:16.300 It's just fentanyl.

00:33:17.860 It's okay.

00:33:18.920 He's got cancer.

00:33:19.940 How dare you?

00:33:20.860 Like, you were skinny as shit, dude.

00:33:22.360 What happened?

00:33:24.040 But, uh...

00:33:24.760 Pimp on a blend, dude.

00:33:25.700 I don't know what's going...

00:33:26.480 Look, I didn't expect

00:33:28.120 to be up here,

00:33:28.860 so I'm a little nervous.

00:33:30.420 All right, camera's in my face.

00:33:31.560 You're scared.

00:33:32.000 Do you like cops?

00:33:32.480 No, I'm not scared.

00:33:33.120 Can you smile so we can see you?

00:33:34.420 Yeah, we can.

00:33:34.840 Actually, come on.

00:33:37.380 Okay, that's been your one minute.

00:33:39.400 I don't know.

00:33:39.800 Should this guy...

00:33:40.120 But anyway, my point...

00:33:41.520 I guess my question

00:33:42.580 is how do you see

00:33:45.740 the future of policing

00:33:48.760 if we're just allowing...

00:33:52.860 Bitches on the job.

00:33:54.080 Pretty much.

00:33:54.760 Got you.

00:33:55.300 All right.

00:33:56.280 Well, Michael doesn't want

00:33:57.660 big, strong men

00:33:58.560 that could commit violence,

00:34:00.560 so I'm going to...

00:34:01.560 Notice she put words

00:34:02.840 in my mouth.

00:34:03.540 Five foot four thick Latinas,

00:34:05.400 because we know

00:34:05.840 they can scrap.

00:34:08.320 Somebody doesn't want

00:34:09.360 to deport them

00:34:10.040 and I'm behind that movement.

00:34:11.400 Thank you.

00:34:11.880 But the thing is,

00:34:13.520 in reality,

00:34:14.900 you have to...

00:34:16.400 And this is going to sound

00:34:17.100 super cliche and shitty.

00:34:18.420 You have to bridge the gap

00:34:20.320 between community and police,

00:34:21.560 right?

00:34:22.040 If you don't,

00:34:22.660 then nobody's going to respect you.

00:34:23.780 And if you don't bridge that gap,

00:34:25.880 if nobody respects you,

00:34:26.860 then every time you show up,

00:34:27.960 they're going to disrespect you,

00:34:29.920 get in a fight with you,

00:34:31.060 push the boundaries

00:34:31.740 until they're resisting

00:34:32.600 or obstructing,

00:34:33.440 and then you have to

00:34:33.900 affect and arrest.

00:34:34.540 And so there is an image

00:34:37.160 like my fantastic partner

00:34:38.660 has to show

00:34:39.480 that police officers

00:34:40.900 should have

00:34:41.660 because they are

00:34:42.680 part of this larger authority

00:34:45.320 of the community.

00:34:47.300 Does that make sense?

00:34:48.180 So notice how easily

00:34:50.740 he lied about my views

00:34:52.220 and put words in my mouth.

00:34:53.900 He said,

00:34:54.340 I don't want cops

00:34:55.140 to be big, burly guys.

00:34:56.540 I said that the police...

00:34:58.320 That's not what I said.

00:34:59.960 I said the police

00:35:00.900 as a career

00:35:01.740 attracts violent people

00:35:03.440 and it's a small percentage.

00:35:05.100 I said those words

00:35:06.060 are words to that effect.

00:35:07.240 At no point

00:35:08.000 did I say it's preferable

00:35:08.980 for the police

00:35:09.860 to be small people.

00:35:11.120 And again,

00:35:11.680 I don't care what you think

00:35:12.520 about me.

00:35:12.900 I don't care what you think

00:35:13.380 about any of us

00:35:13.820 on this panel.

00:35:14.380 What I care about is

00:35:15.680 when you talk to the police

00:35:17.260 they will easily

00:35:18.480 twist your words

00:35:19.520 without any guilt

00:35:20.660 whatsoever

00:35:21.200 or any kind of

00:35:22.700 consequences or apology

00:35:23.940 and you're the one

00:35:25.280 who will be ending up

00:35:25.940 paying the price.

00:35:27.960 Man, I disagree.

00:35:29.240 That's nice.

00:35:30.560 Oh, that's nice.

00:35:31.420 Jason, what do you got for us?

00:35:33.060 What do you think?

00:35:33.500 I look like an asshole.

00:35:34.660 I look like a criminal.

00:35:35.700 Usually when I talk to him

00:35:36.820 and I'm calm

00:35:37.960 and I'm not

00:35:39.060 doing anything illegal

00:35:41.360 and I go,

00:35:42.140 hey man, I get it.

00:35:42.940 I look like this

00:35:43.680 but I'm not doing

00:35:44.540 anything bad.

00:35:45.700 They're very nice to me.

00:35:46.760 I'm sure.

00:35:47.260 I'm not doubting you.

00:35:47.800 Have I bumped into

00:35:49.300 an asshole cop?

00:35:50.280 Yeah, but that's like

00:35:51.180 you're trying to say

00:35:51.780 that cops wanted that job

00:35:52.940 so they can be pricks.

00:35:54.240 There's pricks all over

00:35:55.120 the place that aren't policed.

00:35:56.300 That's true.

00:35:56.740 There's a bunch of people

00:35:57.340 that have bad days

00:35:58.260 and they act like assholes.

00:35:59.740 Absolutely.

00:36:00.060 But there's also cops

00:36:00.840 I've been smoking weed

00:36:01.720 in Australia

00:36:02.080 where it was completely illegal

00:36:03.240 and they were like,

00:36:04.020 eh, you're harmless.

00:36:04.880 Off you go.

00:36:05.740 They could have fucked

00:36:06.420 my whole life right there.

00:36:07.860 Harmless?

00:36:08.360 Jesus, that was a dumb cop.

00:36:10.060 Okay.

00:36:11.160 Okay, I changed my mind.

00:36:12.460 You're right.

00:36:15.140 Fucking jerk off.

00:36:16.600 First of all,

00:36:17.340 first of all,

00:36:18.120 you're one data point

00:36:18.960 and you're absolutely correct.

00:36:20.280 How dare you be that data point

00:36:21.680 and not a person.

00:36:22.560 Good call, cop.

00:36:24.360 Okay.

00:36:26.140 Point being,

00:36:27.600 every field,

00:36:28.860 you're absolutely correct,

00:36:29.740 have people who are assholes,

00:36:31.380 beauty queens,

00:36:32.160 politicians,

00:36:32.900 teachers,

00:36:33.420 barbers,

00:36:33.940 you know,

00:36:34.500 anything we can.

00:36:35.540 It is only the police

00:36:37.080 when someone is an asshole

00:36:38.820 that they have the legal right

00:36:40.360 and discretion

00:36:41.100 to,

00:36:42.040 if you're giving them an attitude,

00:36:43.140 throwing them back

00:36:43.620 in their cop car

00:36:44.240 and fuck your shit up

00:36:45.300 for a very long time.

00:36:46.620 That's what I'm saying.

00:36:47.460 Well, let's clarify that.

00:36:48.480 They actually don't,

00:36:49.900 but the argument is

00:36:50.660 they have connections and...

00:36:52.860 What do you mean?

00:36:53.240 They can get you for resisting,

00:36:54.600 they can get you

00:36:55.160 for disorderly conduct.

00:36:56.300 Right, right.

00:36:56.740 My point is,

00:36:57.360 to the letter of the law,

00:36:58.200 they can't legally do that.

00:36:59.780 You're saying they have to lie

00:37:00.600 and break the law

00:37:01.120 to get away with it.

00:37:01.980 A lot of those things

00:37:02.820 are in the opinion

00:37:03.520 of the officer.

00:37:06.000 And he will testify...

00:37:06.660 Let me try this.

00:37:07.840 Can you,

00:37:08.520 for any reason,

00:37:09.380 because you're angry,

00:37:09.900 make up charges against somebody?

00:37:10.600 No, no, you've got to

00:37:11.000 make up a charge, yeah.

00:37:11.760 Can you make up charges

00:37:12.380 against somebody?

00:37:12.840 No.

00:37:13.380 That never happens.

00:37:14.360 But cops do lie.

00:37:15.420 Okay.

00:37:16.160 Cops lie.

00:37:16.720 And that's illegal

00:37:17.360 to falsely charge somebody.

00:37:18.060 And it is illegal to lie

00:37:19.120 and there are repercussions

00:37:20.100 for those people

00:37:20.760 that do it.

00:37:21.480 But the argument, Michael,

00:37:22.720 is that you're saying

00:37:23.140 they get away with it,

00:37:24.040 which I don't disagree with.

00:37:24.860 Yes.

00:37:26.000 Here's something else.

00:37:26.680 They have a legal right

00:37:27.040 to do it.

00:37:27.280 Assume everything I'm saying

00:37:28.220 is not true.

00:37:29.420 What I would encourage people

00:37:30.320 to do, as I've done,

00:37:31.300 is watch a lot of

00:37:32.160 police body cam footage.

00:37:33.340 Yes.

00:37:33.620 I agree with that.

00:37:34.620 And I'm not finished.

00:37:36.540 It's going to make you

00:37:37.340 appreciate what the cops

00:37:38.640 have to do a lot more.

00:37:40.140 Because if you're calling

00:37:41.480 the cops,

00:37:42.300 you're not calling the cops

00:37:43.240 because things are nice.

00:37:44.460 It's not like,

00:37:45.020 oh, hey, officer,

00:37:45.620 we're having a birthday party.

00:37:46.640 Would you like a piece

00:37:47.340 of cake, please?

00:37:48.120 Right?

00:37:49.180 Here's the thing.

00:37:50.400 If your day,

00:37:51.620 sorry, eight hours a day,

00:37:53.540 five days a week,

00:37:54.300 is dealing with shitty people

00:37:55.700 doing shitty stuff,

00:37:57.480 it does a number on you.

00:37:59.000 Because what?

00:37:59.620 Cops are what?

00:38:00.260 Human.

00:38:00.840 Human beings.

00:38:02.140 I had a friend,

00:38:03.140 Jim Moore.

00:38:03.720 He was a sheriff

00:38:04.440 in rural Illinois.

00:38:06.000 Great guy.

00:38:07.020 And part of his gig

00:38:08.060 before he was a sheriff

00:38:09.080 was investigating child abuse.

00:38:11.100 Oh, me too.

00:38:11.700 I never asked him

00:38:12.720 for details

00:38:14.260 because I didn't want to know.

00:38:15.840 I don't think anyone

00:38:16.360 in this room wants to know.

00:38:17.320 The kinds of things

00:38:18.100 people do to their own kids,

00:38:19.400 let alone foster kids,

00:38:20.480 is unimaginable.

00:38:22.080 And after a while,

00:38:22.980 he quit.

00:38:23.440 And do you know why he quit?

00:38:24.480 Because it got to him.

00:38:25.760 How could it not get to you?

00:38:27.100 You do that kind of stuff

00:38:28.160 inside and out,

00:38:29.220 you're going to look at people

00:38:30.040 in a whole different way.

00:38:30.940 And that's what happens.

00:38:32.160 It's not even their fault.

00:38:33.540 You show up like this young guy

00:38:35.140 on the force

00:38:36.380 and you're trying to help

00:38:37.400 your community.

00:38:38.660 After a while,

00:38:39.620 people yell at you.

00:38:40.940 You see these police body cam

00:38:43.220 where someone's literally a shooter.

00:38:45.200 The cops try to take him down

00:38:46.560 and he's swarmed in the ghetto

00:38:48.100 and they feel very unsafe

00:38:49.500 and you don't blame them

00:38:50.160 for being very unsafe.

00:38:51.180 My point is,

00:38:51.960 after a while,

00:38:53.060 this hardens you, right?

00:38:54.760 And if you have that interaction

00:38:56.020 with that hardened cop

00:38:56.960 who's having a bad day,

00:38:58.280 you're the one

00:38:58.920 who's going to be paying

00:38:59.500 the price for it.

00:39:00.220 And it's not even his fault.

00:39:01.720 Let me ask you this, Rich.

00:39:02.680 I think it might have been

00:39:03.540 a donut operator

00:39:04.480 who told the story,

00:39:05.060 I could be wrong,

00:39:06.080 where they had just gotten a call

00:39:08.500 about a child that was killed

00:39:10.340 in a car accident,

00:39:11.200 a baby.

00:39:11.860 That was Cody, yeah.

00:39:12.780 Yeah, and then after that,

00:39:14.280 he has to go deal

00:39:14.900 with some angry woman

00:39:15.760 who's bitching at him.

00:39:16.920 A Karen.

00:39:17.440 And they don't understand

00:39:18.780 what he just witnessed

00:39:19.760 and experienced.

00:39:20.540 Right.

00:39:20.640 And it's, like, torturous.

00:39:23.260 It's difficult.

00:39:24.140 Yeah, they're, like,

00:39:24.780 I'm not going to lie.

00:39:25.480 Like, the job comes with

00:39:26.540 risks that are involved.

00:39:29.300 It doesn't mean

00:39:29.840 that you deserve those risks,

00:39:31.540 but it means that there's

00:39:32.440 risks that are involved.

00:39:33.940 I currently get mental health

00:39:35.940 from a psychiatrist

00:39:36.920 because I need it.

00:39:37.800 Because I am,

00:39:38.400 I'm an SVU detective,

00:39:39.440 so I deal with crimes

00:39:40.880 against children,

00:39:41.700 domestic abuse,

00:39:43.280 sexual assault, etc.

00:39:44.060 No, human can handle it

00:39:44.700 on their own.

00:39:45.320 Correct.

00:39:45.920 It's not possible.

00:39:46.780 They need help.

00:39:47.980 And, yeah,

00:39:50.800 it is difficult.

00:39:51.740 But at the same time,

00:39:53.340 I haven't had the spillover

00:39:56.540 that other police officers have,

00:39:57.980 so it's hard for me

00:39:58.540 to connect with that.

00:39:59.360 Would you know it if you had?

00:40:00.500 What's that?

00:40:01.020 Would you know it if you had?

00:40:02.080 Yes.

00:40:02.780 Because, you know what,

00:40:03.580 you're right.

00:40:03.880 I did have spillover.

00:40:04.780 I did have spillover.

00:40:05.840 And I had good officers

00:40:06.980 that were next to me

00:40:07.780 that pulled me aside

00:40:08.980 and said,

00:40:09.580 you need to sit down.

00:40:10.440 You need to cool off.

00:40:11.840 And there are laws right now

00:40:13.560 in New York State,

00:40:14.400 I forget what law it's called,

00:40:15.640 where it is an officer's duty

00:40:17.660 to intervene

00:40:18.480 if another officer

00:40:19.500 is doing excessive force

00:40:21.320 in their eyes.

00:40:22.600 Yeah, but there's also

00:40:23.840 a duty in the military

00:40:24.960 if people have to do that.

00:40:26.140 Then you have the MyLai Massacre.

00:40:27.340 Yeah, okay.

00:40:27.660 So just because

00:40:28.060 something's on paper,

00:40:29.020 and I'm sure that happens sometimes.

00:40:30.520 I'm sure there's a lot of times

00:40:31.460 because you trust your partner,

00:40:32.560 people trust their partners.

00:40:33.960 If you see your partner

00:40:34.720 being out,

00:40:35.120 and you're like,

00:40:35.900 oh, shit,

00:40:36.440 thanks for checking me.

00:40:37.500 And that person

00:40:38.340 will be grateful.

00:40:39.300 But there's plenty

00:40:39.880 of other times

00:40:40.440 when you and your partner,

00:40:41.260 it's YouTube against the world,

00:40:42.600 and someone who's,

00:40:43.480 you know,

00:40:43.680 from a certain socioeconomic class

00:40:45.080 is giving you lip,

00:40:45.940 and you're not having it that day.

00:40:47.380 And I don't know

00:40:47.980 that I would do differently

00:40:48.640 in that position.

00:40:49.680 I'm not pretending otherwise.

00:40:51.400 Let's get some more people up here.

00:40:52.240 All right, let's get some more people.

00:40:53.340 Now, this name,

00:40:54.300 what is this?

00:40:55.400 Alex, Alabama?

00:40:56.900 What is this?

00:40:57.640 Alex, A-L-A.

00:40:58.820 Alex, Aliburn?

00:41:00.160 Aliburn.

00:41:01.560 Alex, hurry up.

00:41:02.620 Let's go.

00:41:04.060 Oh, I like this guy.

00:41:06.540 Let's go, Alex.

00:41:08.580 I know it is tight quarters,

00:41:10.180 but come on down.

00:41:12.340 Things are going to get spicy.

00:41:13.480 You're going to have one minute.

00:41:14.500 Either ask us a question

00:41:15.660 if you want to debate something.

00:41:17.900 As soon as you start talking,

00:41:20.300 we're going to start the timer.

00:41:22.100 All right, what do you got for us, Alex?

00:41:23.340 I just got sort of a long question for Michael.

00:41:25.860 Oh, God.

00:41:26.720 These are always so much fun.

00:41:28.640 Can you have a five-minute speech first, too?

00:41:30.760 No.

00:41:32.240 If you're against police,

00:41:33.740 do you think individuals should be trained

00:41:35.380 in public...

00:41:35.820 In the mic.

00:41:36.800 Sorry.

00:41:37.100 If you're against police,

00:41:38.680 do you think individuals should be trained

00:41:40.120 in public schools to de-escalate,

00:41:43.220 shoot, fight hand-to-hand combat,

00:41:44.960 handle crime scenes, evidence,

00:41:46.760 large-scale criminal organizations?

00:41:48.640 I think there's a lot of young men

00:41:51.080 in this audience and elsewhere

00:41:53.340 who would be great assets to their community,

00:41:56.580 and if they are more encouraged

00:41:59.180 to be de-escalating...

00:42:01.300 Like, if you've seen a bar, right?

00:42:02.600 There's two guys getting in a fight.

00:42:03.920 Very quickly, most of the time,

00:42:05.280 people jump in, strangers,

00:42:06.620 and separate them.

00:42:07.740 In this country,

00:42:08.440 I can't speak for other countries,

00:42:09.640 there is a huge motive

00:42:11.500 and a part of our culture

00:42:13.320 that we help each other out,

00:42:15.420 we try to de-escalate violence,

00:42:17.400 and we try to prevent violence.

00:42:18.860 What happens when you have...

00:42:19.800 What are you talking about?

00:42:20.820 Have you seen the videos from Cincinnati?

00:42:22.620 People just pull their phones out

00:42:24.560 and film it.

00:42:25.140 They don't help shit.

00:42:26.220 In certain cultures, yes.

00:42:28.540 Hashtag, I don't want to be sued.

00:42:30.420 There's lots of other...

00:42:31.760 In DC...

00:42:33.480 I'm not...

00:42:33.960 Okay, DC's fair.

00:42:34.940 DC's very different.

00:42:38.360 Sorry, Texas has spoiled me.

00:42:40.620 In certain parts of this country,

00:42:42.240 thank you for the correction,

00:42:43.720 in certain parts of the country,

00:42:46.100 it is very much the case

00:42:47.400 that people are neighborly.

00:42:48.620 If there's a problem in the neighborhood,

00:42:49.740 people try to get together and solve it.

00:42:51.680 That is very much discouraged.

00:42:54.020 And just like charity

00:42:55.020 is very much discouraged

00:42:55.900 because you have the government

00:42:57.460 to rely on

00:42:58.360 that puts less and less responsibility

00:43:00.080 for individuals to fix this.

00:43:02.560 And a great example of this

00:43:04.120 is, again, Daniel Penny,

00:43:06.240 or Perry, I forget his name.

00:43:07.180 I'm sorry, New York.

00:43:07.520 Well, actually.

00:43:08.580 But he has both.

00:43:09.400 There's two.

00:43:10.600 One, Penny was in New York

00:43:12.280 and Perry was in Austin.

00:43:13.520 Perry was the guy who...

00:43:14.220 Oh, no, in New York.

00:43:14.860 In New York, Daniel Penny.

00:43:15.880 Right, right.

00:43:16.220 Perry was the guy

00:43:16.940 where the guy at the protest

00:43:18.260 showed up with a rifle at Low Ready.

00:43:19.740 He shot to defend himself.

00:43:21.180 They arrested and charged him.

00:43:22.060 So I would love it

00:43:23.360 if not only were more people

00:43:25.540 incentivized

00:43:26.780 and have that sense of

00:43:28.420 no one's coming to help me

00:43:30.220 because when crime is seconds away,

00:43:32.340 the cops are minutes away.

00:43:33.800 And one of the great things

00:43:35.140 about living in Austin

00:43:35.760 is knowing

00:43:36.280 that I sleep with a piece

00:43:37.600 under my bed

00:43:38.180 and one in my office

00:43:38.960 and if someone comes into my house,

00:43:41.020 I'm not going to have to live in fear.

00:43:42.060 Except Daniel Perry

00:43:43.700 was in his car driving

00:43:45.020 when a mob

00:43:46.440 approached his vehicle.

00:43:47.600 One guy had an AK

00:43:48.720 at Low Ready raised up

00:43:50.500 and when he saw the gun rising

00:43:51.840 being raised,

00:43:53.340 he shot him

00:43:53.980 and he got charged.

00:43:55.720 Okay.

00:43:56.280 And then he got convicted

00:43:57.760 and then had to get a pardon

00:43:58.900 from the governor.

00:43:59.560 I'm glad he got pardoned.

00:44:00.940 Indeed,

00:44:01.300 but that's still Texas.

00:44:02.900 Sure, sure.

00:44:03.940 Austin is a little bit of an outlier,

00:44:05.240 but the point is

00:44:05.740 I'm not in favor of that verdict.

00:44:08.200 I'm saying

00:44:08.540 that's the kind of thing

00:44:09.500 that should be encouraged more of.

00:44:10.880 Here's what I want to say.

00:44:12.220 Let's call somebody out.

00:44:13.360 Real quick.

00:44:14.220 I want to address this in that.

00:44:15.880 It seems like the real issue

00:44:17.340 is not police at all.

00:44:18.620 It's cultural fragmentation.

00:44:20.480 Well,

00:44:20.780 if you have a...

00:44:21.660 What do you mean by fragmentation?

00:44:22.600 If you have a village

00:44:23.860 of a hundred people

00:44:25.160 and they all say,

00:44:26.860 Rich is going to be our cop.

00:44:28.060 We trust him

00:44:28.480 and we like this guy.

00:44:29.660 When he stops somebody,

00:44:31.040 he knows that he's got fear

00:44:32.580 of being shunned

00:44:33.200 or ostracized

00:44:33.900 for acting out of line.

00:44:34.680 Yes, I...

00:44:35.400 And so the problem we have now

00:44:36.820 is in these very large cities

00:44:38.460 of millions of people,

00:44:39.600 the cops are like,

00:44:40.420 don't know you,

00:44:41.120 don't care,

00:44:41.840 I'm done with you.

00:44:42.520 Well,

00:44:42.920 this is actually something

00:44:44.120 that they tried to fight

00:44:44.900 because for a long time

00:44:46.020 you would have white cops

00:44:47.080 in black neighborhoods

00:44:47.680 and this naturally

00:44:48.820 had some kind of antagonism.

00:44:51.520 Oh, thank you.

00:44:52.560 Yeah, guy.

00:44:53.780 Look,

00:44:54.040 lay down the law over there.

00:44:55.440 Law.

00:44:55.960 You get it.

00:44:56.860 All right,

00:44:57.160 let's call the next person.

00:44:58.140 That's my point.

00:44:58.780 But the point is

00:44:59.300 so there was a movement

00:45:00.120 from police districts

00:45:02.500 to recruit people

00:45:03.820 from those neighborhoods

00:45:04.640 and I think that's

00:45:05.640 a very commendable situation.

00:45:07.420 And it's always better

00:45:08.380 when there is this kind of

00:45:09.680 semblance of people

00:45:10.700 knowing each other

00:45:11.320 because that de-escalates

00:45:12.380 things immediately.

00:45:13.160 If you and I got in a fight

00:45:14.140 as opposed to me

00:45:14.940 or you getting in a fight

00:45:15.480 with a stranger,

00:45:15.980 it's very different.

00:45:16.780 Yeah.

00:45:17.480 All right,

00:45:17.900 our next person coming up,

00:45:19.800 Taylor Lorenz's ex-wife.

00:45:21.700 Come on down.

00:45:22.380 Hurry up,

00:45:25.480 Taylor Lorenz's ex-wife.

00:45:27.940 I know you got to put on

00:45:29.100 your freaking burka

00:45:30.060 or your hijab.

00:45:32.460 Hurry up.

00:45:33.340 She's got the mask

00:45:34.180 because she's got long COVID.

00:45:35.120 Quit running into walls.

00:45:36.200 You look like you're going to

00:45:36.880 kick my ass

00:45:37.520 when you get over here.

00:45:38.300 Hang on.

00:45:38.320 All right, therapy.

00:45:40.020 All right,

00:45:40.140 what do you got for me?

00:45:40.640 Mortal Kombat.

00:45:41.420 No,

00:45:41.580 it looks like...

00:45:43.120 Is that an Assassin's Creed getup?

00:45:46.320 I can't see anything

00:45:47.280 with these glasses.

00:45:48.140 I think that's the point.

00:45:48.920 All right,

00:45:49.060 what do you got for us?

00:45:49.780 Fuck the rest.

00:45:50.320 Hang on, hang on.

00:45:50.760 Think into the mic.

00:45:51.800 Let's go.

00:45:52.340 We're getting there.

00:45:53.300 We're unlocking the phone.

00:45:55.800 Unlocking the phone.

00:45:57.220 First off,

00:45:57.820 y'all,

00:45:58.040 a bunch of animals.

00:45:58.880 You're putting everyone's life

00:45:59.720 at risk by not wearing a mask.

00:46:01.140 COVID-19 is very serious.

00:46:02.760 Thanks for trolling me.

00:46:04.120 Don't interrupt.

00:46:05.060 Let Taylor Lorenz go.

00:46:08.120 Okay,

00:46:08.700 regarding William McNeil,

00:46:10.600 I've seen both videos.

00:46:12.840 I believe the headlights

00:46:14.100 not being on

00:46:14.700 is a bullshit charge,

00:46:15.620 so this may have been a DWB,

00:46:17.980 but I believe he also

00:46:19.040 had a suspended license,

00:46:20.080 and they may have known that

00:46:22.140 pulling him over,

00:46:23.680 but that wasn't mentioned

00:46:24.600 in the video,

00:46:25.220 I don't believe.

00:46:27.460 Could that have been

00:46:28.120 a factor in the stop?

00:46:29.440 Which stop and who?

00:46:31.300 The guy who got his window

00:46:32.740 punched out

00:46:33.300 and then he got punched

00:46:34.040 in the face again.

00:46:34.600 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:46:35.660 But he had weed on him, too,

00:46:37.040 though.

00:46:37.180 That guy did have,

00:46:37.820 he got arrested with weed.

00:46:38.560 But he got punched in the face.

00:46:39.480 Was that okay?

00:46:40.200 No, that one didn't look good.

00:46:41.680 Yeah.

00:46:41.880 Wait, hold on.

00:46:42.280 Let me ask you all seriousness.

00:46:43.060 If a cop punches someone

00:46:44.400 who's clearly not fighting back

00:46:46.400 in the face,

00:46:47.120 should that cop go to jail?

00:46:48.220 Yes.

00:46:48.440 He should get assault

00:46:49.280 just like everybody else.

00:46:50.080 Okay, great.

00:46:50.960 Okay, we're on the same page.

00:46:52.220 Okay, anyway.

00:46:53.020 What are the likelihood

00:46:53.580 that he'll get assault charges?

00:46:54.820 What's that?

00:46:55.160 What's the likelihood

00:46:55.720 that he'll get charged?

00:46:57.000 And I'm going to be honest with you

00:46:58.260 because you've been honest

00:46:59.040 with me so far.

00:46:59.980 Because it's on camera,

00:47:01.120 pretty good.

00:47:01.660 That's fair.

00:47:02.320 That's fair.

00:47:02.640 Because it's on camera,

00:47:03.640 pretty good.

00:47:04.420 Fuck yeah,

00:47:04.960 kumbaya, motherfuckers.

00:47:05.980 Because if it wasn't on camera,

00:47:08.260 there would be more of a difficulty

00:47:09.520 or a burden of proof.

00:47:11.140 But also,

00:47:12.000 because of your distrust of police,

00:47:14.240 something that's happened,

00:47:15.380 I think,

00:47:15.600 in the positivity

00:47:16.260 that people thought

00:47:17.220 was going to be a bad thing

00:47:18.380 is that more and more officers

00:47:19.840 are getting body cams.

00:47:20.960 That's right.

00:47:21.340 And I don't know

00:47:21.800 if you'll agree with me or not,

00:47:22.740 but I feel that since

00:47:24.080 more and more body cams

00:47:25.600 have come out,

00:47:26.320 you've actually seen

00:47:26.980 that police are more correct

00:47:28.220 and honest

00:47:29.160 in their police report

00:47:30.860 taking and arrests

00:47:31.960 than dishonest,

00:47:33.760 like astronomical.

00:47:34.580 So I want to...

00:47:36.580 Is she still talking?

00:47:38.420 Okay.

00:47:38.900 I want to agree with you

00:47:40.060 and add something else.

00:47:41.840 I think the percent of cops

00:47:44.620 that people regard as corrupt

00:47:46.760 is far lower in reality

00:47:48.500 than people have claimed.

00:47:49.720 Corrupt ones are not

00:47:50.860 the ones that are getting

00:47:51.600 bribed on the take.

00:47:52.520 That's not a significant issue.

00:47:54.300 It's the good cops

00:47:55.260 that are the problem

00:47:55.920 because they are the ones

00:47:57.460 who will smile and nod

00:47:58.620 and follow orders

00:48:00.020 from politicians.

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00:49:00.540 And I'll give you

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00:49:01.840 Cops are what?

00:49:03.080 Here, man.

00:49:03.600 Okay, let me finish.

00:49:04.580 Michael, we need to

00:49:05.160 include the audience

00:49:06.360 a little bit.

00:49:06.720 You're just talking

00:49:07.240 the whole time.

00:49:08.320 I'm sorry.

00:49:08.900 Okay.

00:49:09.380 No, I'm just saying.

00:49:10.460 I mean, every time

00:49:11.160 we make a point,

00:49:11.860 should we have some people

00:49:12.780 interactive and get them involved?

00:49:14.500 No.

00:49:15.040 I just want to get this involved.

00:49:17.860 I didn't come up here

00:49:18.920 to listen to Randos.

00:49:21.800 I'm sorry.

00:49:22.300 And that includes you.

00:49:22.640 That's part of the show.

00:49:23.100 And that includes you, Alex.

00:49:24.020 Well, I wasn't told this.

00:49:24.740 Oh, okay.

00:49:25.380 I'm just going to say

00:49:26.160 one more thing.

00:49:26.840 I want to say, Michael,

00:49:29.320 you sound, when you say

00:49:30.820 I'm not going to answer

00:49:31.660 your questions

00:49:32.100 and I don't want to hear

00:49:32.540 from other people,

00:49:33.320 this is like an unreasonable position.

00:49:36.180 Okay, can I make my point?

00:49:37.380 Yes.

00:49:37.600 Yes.

00:49:37.880 Thank you.

00:49:38.960 If you went back to 20...

00:49:40.300 I'm not here to be reasonable.

00:49:41.280 If you went...

00:49:41.920 I don't have to be reasonable.

00:49:43.360 I got a badge.

00:49:44.480 If you went back...

00:49:45.940 If you went back to 2019

00:49:48.480 and asked doctors,

00:49:50.180 hey, would you ever give

00:49:51.440 a medication to

00:49:52.320 every single one

00:49:53.600 of your patients,

00:49:54.360 even for a disease

00:49:55.120 that they can't really get?

00:49:55.980 I'd never do that.

00:49:57.460 Hippocratic Oath.

00:49:58.380 Are you crazy?

00:49:59.080 That's insane.

00:50:00.640 Then COVID happened

00:50:01.480 and there were some who didn't,

00:50:03.260 but they all bent the knee

00:50:04.680 because doctors and like cops

00:50:05.940 are human beings.

00:50:07.640 So they will always bend the knee

00:50:09.120 to those in power

00:50:09.960 if it means they're just...

00:50:10.620 I'm starting to hate human beings.

00:50:12.020 Yeah, I know.

00:50:12.620 I don't blame you.

00:50:13.460 Cops are human beings.

00:50:14.040 You're the one who wants me to talk to them.

00:50:14.740 Hey, guys.

00:50:15.140 Hey, guys, real quick.

00:50:16.080 I did have a part two to that.

00:50:17.480 Oh, God.

00:50:17.860 I didn't really get it all out.

00:50:18.920 Oh, God.

00:50:19.200 I didn't even know

00:50:19.720 you were still here,

00:50:20.660 Taylor and the Rans.

00:50:21.320 Oh, you scared me.

00:50:22.380 I'm scared to death.

00:50:23.080 It's just like when I call in,

00:50:24.080 I don't shut up.

00:50:25.000 All right.

00:50:26.120 Okay, so what can we do

00:50:29.080 to get it to be normalized

00:50:31.420 for police departments

00:50:32.700 to drop the body cam footage

00:50:36.100 sooner and faster,

00:50:38.080 especially when a viral encounter

00:50:39.780 like William McNeil takes place?

00:50:42.820 All right, go sit down.

00:50:44.040 It's a good question,

00:50:46.160 and it's not going to be one that you want

00:50:47.600 because it's going to be the real one.

00:50:48.980 So the thing is,

00:50:49.640 is that whenever there's a crime

00:50:50.900 that's committed,

00:50:51.480 we don't want the public to overreact.

00:50:53.380 That's right.

00:50:53.760 And then obstruct justice.

00:50:55.360 Yep.

00:50:55.600 And not like in a physical aspect,

00:50:56.940 but to like blame the person,

00:50:58.460 whether it's the cop

00:50:59.240 or the individual for guilt.

00:51:00.940 So you have to be very careful

00:51:02.480 with how much information

00:51:03.740 you put out at a time.

00:51:05.080 Let's say that it's something

00:51:05.900 more heinous like a murder

00:51:07.040 or a serious assault

00:51:08.220 where somebody's shot.

00:51:09.340 You can blame somebody

00:51:11.140 and social media

00:51:12.040 is well known for this.

00:51:13.360 I've done a couple of videos.

00:51:14.440 Angry cops.

00:51:15.260 Anyway, so.

00:51:16.420 You've got to be careful

00:51:18.700 with the amount of information

00:51:19.460 that you put out

00:51:20.000 and what information you put out.

00:51:21.640 And although

00:51:22.100 police departments

00:51:24.680 need to be responsible

00:51:26.120 and react to community requests

00:51:28.420 in order to once again

00:51:29.560 gain the trust of the community,

00:51:30.920 which is important,

00:51:32.040 we also have to put

00:51:33.060 the investigation above that

00:51:35.180 because the victims,

00:51:36.900 outstanding,

00:51:37.720 because the victims

00:51:38.600 are the most important thing

00:51:40.480 when it comes to an investigation.

00:51:41.560 And look at that with George Floyd.

00:51:43.040 You saw just the clip

00:51:44.000 at the very end

00:51:44.760 that when everyone saw

00:51:45.800 the broader context

00:51:46.680 it's a very different story.

00:51:48.140 That's true.

00:51:48.660 All right, Dante,

00:51:49.560 get your ass down here.

00:51:50.620 Where's Dante?

00:51:52.080 We can still talk

00:51:52.900 while they walk, you know.

00:51:53.820 Yes, you can, yeah.

00:51:54.340 We can still talk

00:51:55.080 while they walk.

00:51:55.600 That's what I'm saying.

00:51:56.180 We can talk

00:51:56.800 while they come up,

00:51:57.660 so what do you guys want to?

00:51:59.080 Go ahead.

00:51:59.580 You've barely said anything

00:52:00.840 and you look like a felon

00:52:01.900 out of all of us.

00:52:02.760 Appreciate that.

00:52:03.440 Is the heart tattoo

00:52:06.100 for one of the bodies

00:52:07.020 you've killed

00:52:07.500 or one of the wieners

00:52:08.260 that you've taken?

00:52:11.020 Oh, man.

00:52:11.820 As a comedian,

00:52:12.400 you have to respect the joke.

00:52:14.880 I'm not kill Tony.

00:52:17.120 We're both bald?

00:52:18.120 You can find out

00:52:18.920 afterwards if you want.

00:52:22.780 He is a cop, though.

00:52:25.740 Maybe don't fight a cop.

00:52:27.380 And that's how

00:52:28.320 his dog got shot.

00:52:29.320 Cops kill 30 dogs a day,

00:52:32.680 10,000 a year,

00:52:33.580 and no repercussions.

00:52:34.560 I'm not the age, yeah.

00:52:35.100 That's not true.

00:52:35.780 They kill 30 dogs a day.

00:52:36.880 Yeah, dude,

00:52:37.280 we covered it.

00:52:37.960 You know what?

00:52:38.760 They shoot dogs all the time.

00:52:40.300 I know that happens

00:52:41.020 at 30 a day.

00:52:42.100 There was a blind

00:52:42.840 and deaf shih tzu.

00:52:43.380 No, no, no.

00:52:44.020 Assume I'm blind.

00:52:44.940 Google it yourselves.

00:52:45.920 There was a blind

00:52:46.580 and deaf.

00:52:47.460 There was a blind

00:52:48.300 and deaf 13-pound shih tzu

00:52:50.520 running in circles

00:52:51.600 and the cop just shot it twice.

00:52:53.400 On video.

00:52:54.320 On video.

00:52:54.760 Because it was coming

00:52:55.580 right for him.

00:52:56.740 No, no.

00:52:57.520 It was literally

00:52:58.300 just running in circles.

00:52:59.100 He's joking.

00:53:00.080 I know, but like...

00:53:01.620 First of all,

00:53:03.200 those numbers are inflated

00:53:04.160 and we call them

00:53:04.820 ex-wives, not dogs.

00:53:06.320 Oh.

00:53:07.120 All right.

00:53:07.660 All right, Dante,

00:53:08.720 what do you got for us, brother?

00:53:09.940 If a cop engaged

00:53:11.000 in domestic violence,

00:53:11.980 he will have no repercussions.

00:53:13.240 Oh, that's a fucking lie.

00:53:15.700 Dante, let's go speak

00:53:16.720 into the way.

00:53:17.120 I can't lie, I'm a cop.

00:53:17.780 Hey, what's going on, everybody?

00:53:19.100 One of the only black people here,

00:53:20.560 probably most likely.

00:53:21.820 First of all,

00:53:22.700 I want to give a shout-out to...

00:53:23.460 Dude, get out.

00:53:23.960 Leave.

00:53:24.400 No, I'm kidding.

00:53:24.940 No, we're kidding.

00:53:25.640 We're kidding.

00:53:25.900 You're in the wrong neighborhood, boy.

00:53:26.920 I want to give a shout-out

00:53:28.020 to my lady, Madeline.

00:53:30.040 I'm sure quite a few people know her.

00:53:31.820 She's been in the Discord.

00:53:32.900 She's been making hell

00:53:33.800 and all that stuff for myself.

00:53:35.140 I'm kind of new.

00:53:36.300 But I guess I don't really have a question.

00:53:39.400 Well, it kind of is a question.

00:53:41.140 I believe in a little bit more self-policing.

00:53:43.200 I think smaller communities

00:53:44.200 is kind of what we need to go to.

00:53:45.620 What would you guys want to see

00:53:47.660 for self-policing?

00:53:48.740 Like, what would be the extent

00:53:49.960 that citizens would do

00:53:51.060 their own self-policing?

00:53:52.400 How would that be structured?

00:53:54.580 And what do we want to roll back

00:53:56.020 when it comes to police?

00:53:56.840 Because I think we do

00:53:57.600 overextend ourself

00:53:58.560 when it comes to police.

00:54:00.100 The dependency,

00:54:01.120 I just hear people expect

00:54:02.560 other men to do...

00:54:03.940 I got that.

00:54:05.280 I feel like dudes

00:54:06.940 should not wear Crocs.

00:54:11.520 Amen.

00:54:11.960 You can't defend shit

00:54:14.260 with those fucking things on.

00:54:15.600 You know what you do?

00:54:16.240 You call the fashion police on that.

00:54:17.760 It comes from the movie

00:54:18.800 Idiocracy, by the way, Crocs.

00:54:20.560 So you should watch that movie.

00:54:21.760 That's where it came from.

00:54:23.440 Did I just get threatened

00:54:24.880 by a guy with Crocs?

00:54:26.500 No, I'm not wearing Crocs,

00:54:28.220 but I'm just saying...

00:54:28.740 He's a crocodile hunter.

00:54:32.760 Man, that's good.

00:54:33.880 And I'm a stingray.

00:54:36.600 Yeah, I'm scared of those fuckers.

00:54:38.380 You should be.

00:54:39.200 They're terrifying.

00:54:40.280 All right, I think Michael's position

00:54:41.640 is everybody gets a pitchfork

00:54:43.220 and a torch.

00:54:43.940 My position is

00:54:44.740 I wrote an article years ago

00:54:46.240 about gun mandates,

00:54:48.400 meaning you're mandated

00:54:49.380 to own a gun.

00:54:50.600 I like that mandate.

00:54:52.040 All right, our next challenger

00:54:54.140 or person who wants

00:54:55.540 to ask the question,

00:54:56.200 the one, the only,

00:54:57.000 Edgar the Puppet.

00:54:57.960 Is Edgar the Puppet here?

00:55:00.040 Come on down, Edgar the Puppet.

00:55:03.460 I know Michael loves

00:55:04.740 talking to puppets.

00:55:06.920 Michael, you hate humans.

00:55:08.200 You're really going to hate

00:55:09.020 this next guy.

00:55:09.380 Officer Oinkselot loves puppets.

00:55:10.640 Okay, all right, well, good.

00:55:11.640 Good, good.

00:55:12.000 I hope this is enjoyable.

00:55:13.440 Yeah, yeah, this is super creepy,

00:55:14.740 but we're going to do this.

00:55:16.760 I'm not creepy, bitch.

00:55:18.420 Anyway, listen,

00:55:20.080 I want to congratulate

00:55:21.100 Alex Stein on his

00:55:22.920 Ozempic use

00:55:23.840 and Tim for having

00:55:24.800 a great choice of headwear.

00:55:27.160 Michael for looking

00:55:28.760 like Saddam Hussein

00:55:29.800 and the two bald bookends

00:55:31.380 just for showing up.

00:55:33.260 Thank you.

00:55:34.240 All right, Michael,

00:55:35.140 I think, look,

00:55:35.920 you've raised some good points,

00:55:37.100 but look, man,

00:55:37.900 you are from the

00:55:38.780 U.S.

00:55:39.420 fucking R,

00:55:40.440 U.S.

00:55:40.900 S.O.S.R.,

00:55:41.520 whatever,

00:55:41.860 how many initials?

00:55:42.560 I forget.

00:55:43.460 I think you got a lot of,

00:55:44.900 I think between the NKVD

00:55:46.860 and the KGB,

00:55:48.500 I think you got a lot

00:55:49.440 of generational trauma

00:55:50.660 that you're still

00:55:51.500 dealing with, Michael.

00:55:52.540 I might be wrong.

00:55:53.700 We can hug it out later

00:55:54.820 if you want.

00:55:55.360 I don't want.

00:55:57.100 I am not a cop.

00:55:58.120 I'm not a cop.

00:55:59.140 You want a puppet hug, Michael.

00:56:01.120 I do.

00:56:02.260 You do, bitch.

00:56:03.920 You need a big,

00:56:05.040 firm puppet hug.

00:56:06.260 I will let you

00:56:06.960 put your hand

00:56:07.720 in my puppet hole

00:56:08.380 if you're extra gentle.

00:56:10.140 Search it.

00:56:10.820 Search his puppet hole

00:56:11.660 so hard.

00:56:12.240 I'm sorry.

00:56:12.720 I don't do gentle.

00:56:15.060 No safe words.

00:56:16.560 Listen, listen,

00:56:17.340 I think...

00:56:18.200 No, you listen.

00:56:19.080 No, no, no.

00:56:20.200 No, I don't listen to cops

00:56:21.700 and that's what you've,

00:56:22.720 you have identified yourself

00:56:24.100 as a cop today,

00:56:24.800 so you got zero respect

00:56:25.860 for me.

00:56:26.200 You should listen to them

00:56:26.940 and you shouldn't talk to them.

00:56:27.900 It's not the same.

00:56:29.260 Listen.

00:56:29.720 You sound like my wife.

00:56:32.660 I think...

00:56:33.500 I'm sorry.

00:56:34.280 I'm sorry.

00:56:35.020 It'll be ready tomorrow.

00:56:36.040 You sound like me now.

00:56:38.060 Listen, okay.

00:56:39.660 All of you,

00:56:40.300 in a recent episode

00:56:41.380 of my wonderful

00:56:42.440 YouTube channel,

00:56:43.300 Ask America with Edgar,

00:56:44.620 I was kicked out

00:56:45.700 of the National Zoo lately

00:56:47.220 by police officers.

00:56:49.800 I was, unfortunately,

00:56:51.120 racially profiling animals

00:56:52.780 and they did not like that

00:56:54.480 and they kicked my ass out.

00:56:55.820 Please, I encourage you

00:56:56.940 to view the episode

00:56:57.580 because YouTube is

00:56:58.300 throttling it big time.

00:56:59.840 Regardless, though,

00:57:00.640 those cops were friendly.

00:57:02.260 They were doing their job

00:57:03.520 as they ushered me out

00:57:04.800 and threw me onto the street.

00:57:06.440 So, Rich, you know,

00:57:08.060 not all of them are bad.

00:57:09.580 They're not all bad,

00:57:10.400 but the point is

00:57:11.020 if someone friendly tells you

00:57:12.440 you can't see your mom

00:57:13.440 in the nursing home

00:57:14.280 as she dies,

00:57:15.340 it's not the attitude

00:57:16.120 that's the problem.

00:57:16.940 It's they're doing

00:57:17.320 their job correctly.

00:57:18.220 That was the truth

00:57:19.140 of the doctors, though.

00:57:20.060 Michael, everyone

00:57:20.900 during COVID

00:57:23.660 was being an absolute

00:57:24.920 cockhole

00:57:25.600 except for everyone

00:57:26.300 in this room.

00:57:27.480 Yeah.

00:57:28.100 Everyone.

00:57:29.520 Who the fuck can't?

00:57:30.840 Wait a minute.

00:57:31.720 If everyone is being

00:57:32.740 a cockhole,

00:57:33.400 they're being a cockhole.

00:57:34.360 That's an excuse them.

00:57:35.300 What are you talking about?

00:57:36.320 Well, I'm not saying,

00:57:37.200 I think that you

00:57:38.660 might be steering us

00:57:41.660 towards some sort

00:57:42.320 of libertarian madness

00:57:43.560 where there aren't

00:57:44.260 enough rules.

00:57:45.060 I think somehow

00:57:46.460 we have to find

00:57:47.200 a middle ground.

00:57:48.180 What does that even mean?

00:57:49.220 What kind of rules

00:57:49.940 are there if you want

00:57:50.760 to say hi to your mom

00:57:51.700 in the nursing home?

00:57:52.920 The rules are you sign in

00:57:54.120 and show ID.

00:57:55.080 That's the rules.

00:57:56.200 Yeah.

00:57:56.880 Yeah.

00:57:57.540 Exactly.

00:57:58.360 And you don't go to jail

00:57:59.520 because she doesn't

00:58:01.060 want to die alone.

00:58:02.440 Yeah.

00:58:05.680 I didn't hear that.

00:58:06.880 And you let them in

00:58:07.720 because walls don't work.

00:58:10.220 Yeah.

00:58:10.900 I think somehow

00:58:12.440 before the end

00:58:13.380 of the evening

00:58:13.840 I would like to see

00:58:14.780 you and Rich kiss.

00:58:15.960 That's all.

00:58:16.500 I just want to get down

00:58:17.500 to that home point.

00:58:18.540 I'm going to start

00:58:19.240 keeping kosher again

00:58:20.100 to make sure

00:58:20.500 that doesn't happen.

00:58:22.800 All right.

00:58:23.540 All right.

00:58:24.460 Well, thank you very much, guys.

00:58:25.900 Thank you.

00:58:26.360 Give it up for Edgar

00:58:27.020 the Puppet, everybody.

00:58:29.600 Oh, yeah.

00:58:30.380 I'm only here

00:58:33.140 because my cuddle buddy

00:58:34.260 Alex Stein

00:58:35.020 told my ass to come.

00:58:36.520 Otherwise,

00:58:37.120 I would have stayed home.

00:58:39.280 Yeah, no,

00:58:39.940 because I'm going to be

00:58:40.480 in that puppet hole

00:58:41.180 in a few minutes

00:58:41.880 after the show.

00:58:42.620 That's why.

00:58:43.620 There's a lot of cocaine

00:58:44.520 in that puppet hole.

00:58:44.940 I cannot wait

00:58:45.720 for your wriggling fingers

00:58:46.980 to send me home, buddy.

00:58:48.740 Get out,

00:58:49.280 sit down, Edgar.

00:58:50.240 Give it up for Edgar.

00:58:51.000 Everybody go watch

00:58:51.540 his YouTube channel.

00:58:52.560 All right, next.

00:58:54.140 Finally, a woman,

00:58:55.320 even though I think

00:58:55.740 we had a fake woman already.

00:58:57.480 Hey, I'm right here.

00:58:58.680 Well, two fake women.

00:58:59.800 All right, Madeline,

00:59:00.460 come on down.

00:59:01.240 Madeline, hurry,

00:59:02.280 hurry, hurry.

00:59:03.280 Where you at, Madeline?

00:59:04.620 Give it up for these,

00:59:05.860 for this lady.

00:59:08.020 We've had two ladies.

00:59:08.760 That's the waitress, guys.

00:59:10.060 That's...

00:59:11.060 Well, give it up

00:59:12.660 for the waitress as well.

00:59:16.420 Is Madeline here?

00:59:17.480 I don't even...

00:59:17.860 Did I see it?

00:59:18.400 Is that her?

00:59:19.460 Ooh, look at her.

00:59:20.080 Right over here.

00:59:20.660 Right over here.

00:59:21.460 Yeah, right over there.

00:59:22.580 Come on over.

00:59:23.080 Go to the homeless-looking

00:59:23.960 M&M, Madeline.

00:59:24.840 Yeah.

00:59:26.120 Stand on this nice,

00:59:27.380 ominous X

00:59:28.060 we have on the floor here.

00:59:29.640 You have one minute.

00:59:30.360 I'm not sure

00:59:36.660 what my question is.

00:59:38.020 Wait, what?

00:59:39.100 You got anything for us?

00:59:40.940 Why don't you put

00:59:41.540 your name in the bucket?

00:59:42.360 Well, I told them all to.

00:59:43.440 I didn't.

00:59:44.700 Listen, have you ever been

00:59:45.620 pulled over by a cop before

00:59:46.680 and not know

00:59:47.040 what the fuck was going on?

00:59:48.060 Now is your time

00:59:48.700 to ask that question.

00:59:49.860 He's right here.

00:59:53.860 Tell him how you feel.

00:59:55.260 Tell me how I feel.

00:59:56.100 Tell him how small his dick is.

00:59:58.220 It's like a thimble.

00:59:59.620 Tell him how he has

01:00:00.900 to do this job

01:00:01.740 because he has

01:00:02.260 a propension.

01:00:03.360 Oh, big word for violence.

01:00:05.840 Okay.

01:00:07.780 So here's my question

01:00:08.880 for Michael is

01:00:09.980 how are police

01:00:11.140 a necessary evil

01:00:12.240 as they enforce

01:00:14.000 our freedom

01:00:15.760 and they help us

01:00:17.020 keep our freedom?

01:00:18.680 I don't understand

01:00:19.500 the question.

01:00:20.120 Why are police

01:00:21.320 a necessary evil?

01:00:22.980 I was saying

01:00:23.960 for the sake of this debate

01:00:24.880 I'll say the police

01:00:25.580 are a necessary evil

01:00:26.360 because people are

01:00:27.140 of the belief

01:00:27.640 and I'm not going to

01:00:28.500 argue against that today.

01:00:30.060 But for the police

01:00:31.140 we would have

01:00:31.620 like 20-20

01:00:33.220 with 24-7.

01:00:34.680 So you're avoiding

01:00:35.420 my question?

01:00:36.280 Sure.

01:00:37.580 I don't understand

01:00:38.580 the question

01:00:38.920 to be honest.

01:00:39.600 What part are you

01:00:40.920 confused about?

01:00:41.340 The necessary part

01:00:41.880 or the evil part?

01:00:43.440 A necessary evil.

01:00:45.320 I think they're

01:00:45.820 necessary

01:00:46.300 and I don't think

01:00:47.880 they're doing anything

01:00:48.760 that goes against

01:00:49.780 what Americans

01:00:51.020 do believe in.

01:00:52.400 Okay.

01:00:52.940 A lot of Americans

01:00:53.880 believe in stupid things.

01:00:55.060 A lot of Americans

01:00:55.720 thought that if you

01:00:56.260 stand six feet apart

01:00:57.360 you can't get your disease

01:00:58.560 which makes absolutely

01:00:59.320 no sense, right?

01:01:00.140 A lot of Americans

01:01:01.080 48% of them

01:01:02.180 thought Officer Harris

01:01:03.380 would be a great president.

01:01:04.760 I strongly disagree

01:01:06.120 and half of those people

01:01:07.120 would be on your jury

01:01:07.880 if you were facing one.

01:01:09.100 So keep that in mind

01:01:09.780 if you're going to

01:01:10.160 fight a charge.

01:01:10.680 98% on your jury

01:01:12.960 in D.C.

01:01:14.220 Sure, in D.C., right.

01:01:15.360 You're going to prison.

01:01:16.300 Yeah, you're going to prison.

01:01:18.240 As to why they're an evil

01:01:19.540 the point is

01:01:20.340 if someone is a sociopath

01:01:22.620 as I think all politicians are

01:01:24.540 and you take it as your job

01:01:26.520 I'm not a sociopath

01:01:27.580 I'm just going to do

01:01:28.780 whatever they tell me to do

01:01:30.020 that's not the actions

01:01:31.360 of a moral person.

01:01:32.720 That's the actions

01:01:33.460 of someone who's

01:01:34.000 handed over their conscience

01:01:35.100 to people who they know

01:01:36.280 are evil

01:01:36.560 or may not know

01:01:37.440 are evil human beings.

01:01:38.480 Well, I think police officers

01:01:40.220 take the job

01:01:40.940 because they think

01:01:41.500 they're doing something

01:01:42.240 to help people.

01:01:43.140 That's true.

01:01:43.640 I think a lot of them

01:01:44.260 but just, you know what?

01:01:45.060 Here's another example

01:01:45.800 of the military.

01:01:46.840 A lot of people

01:01:47.560 and probably some in this room

01:01:48.580 join the military

01:01:49.600 because they think

01:01:50.440 okay, I want to protect

01:01:51.680 my country

01:01:52.180 I want to, you know

01:01:52.980 help my community

01:01:53.620 I want to keep America

01:01:54.200 free and safe

01:01:54.800 and that's very commendable

01:01:56.020 and then many people

01:01:56.980 in the military

01:01:57.240 are like, what the fuck

01:01:57.820 am I doing here?

01:01:58.520 I was completely lied to

01:01:59.540 but the thing is

01:02:00.380 you can't quit the military

01:02:01.520 because you're going to

01:02:02.000 court martial

01:02:02.440 possibly go to jail

01:02:03.180 but you can quit

01:02:04.200 the police force

01:02:04.800 at any time

01:02:05.800 and how many of them

01:02:06.660 walked during COVID?

01:02:07.880 Very, very few.

01:02:09.380 They were more than happy

01:02:10.320 to tell you

01:02:10.860 fuck you

01:02:11.540 you're not going to be able

01:02:12.480 to say goodbye

01:02:12.940 to your loved ones

01:02:13.620 because I need my paycheck.

01:02:15.500 All right.

01:02:16.160 Thank you.

01:02:16.820 Thank you, Madeline.

01:02:17.900 Now our next person

01:02:18.820 give it up for Madeline

01:02:19.580 everybody.

01:02:21.680 Now our next guy

01:02:22.860 I like this already

01:02:24.060 Joey Cannoli

01:02:25.480 Joey Cannoli

01:02:26.580 Yeah!

01:02:27.820 The worst dessert.

01:02:30.220 Let's go, Joey.

01:02:32.520 He called in on the show.

01:02:34.040 Everybody likes sugar cheese.

01:02:36.660 All right, Joey.

01:02:37.240 You got one minute, bro.

01:02:37.960 Another flat rim.

01:02:39.600 Yo, what the fuck

01:02:40.600 is up, Tim Kass?

01:02:41.820 Yeah!

01:02:43.540 So I've been thinking

01:02:44.660 about how

01:02:45.460 like how

01:02:47.220 laws are ridiculous.

01:02:48.880 I think the laws

01:02:49.620 literally only exist

01:02:50.540 so the government

01:02:51.040 can come after

01:02:51.640 normal citizens.

01:02:52.580 I'm okay with this guy

01:02:53.640 so far.

01:02:54.220 Because every time

01:02:55.480 every time like

01:02:56.760 a politician

01:02:57.560 or a big corporation

01:02:58.640 breaks a fucking law

01:02:59.680 like you have to have

01:03:01.380 like a grocery list

01:03:02.380 of things to go

01:03:02.960 after them for

01:03:03.540 but when it's a normal citizen

01:03:04.640 knocking over a fence

01:03:05.620 to the Capitol

01:03:06.200 they will fucking

01:03:07.320 track you down.

01:03:10.360 What was the question?

01:03:11.460 There is no question.

01:03:12.200 I'm making a statement.

01:03:13.220 Hell yeah!

01:03:14.280 Come on down, Joey.

01:03:15.340 Come on down for three minutes.

01:03:16.580 Hurry.

01:03:16.920 Get your ass down here.

01:03:18.120 All right, guys.

01:03:18.580 Give it up for Joey.

01:03:19.200 He's going up.

01:03:19.640 Give it up for Joey.

01:03:21.760 All right, Joey.

01:03:24.320 You know, there was

01:03:25.120 a report that I've sent before

01:03:27.060 from 2005.

01:03:28.240 I think it was.

01:03:29.020 Is that Joey?

01:03:29.740 That's Joey Cannoli.

01:03:30.660 Nice to meet you.

01:03:31.500 City Group said

01:03:32.320 that we live in a platonomy

01:03:33.260 where the interests

01:03:34.340 of the public don't matter

01:03:35.440 and if the majority

01:03:36.380 of the people said

01:03:37.080 something should be illegal

01:03:38.140 politicians don't give a shit

01:03:39.240 but if around 30%

01:03:40.920 of wealthy individuals

01:03:41.840 decide it's illegal

01:03:42.520 it will be.

01:03:43.720 So big corporations,

01:03:45.420 politicians,

01:03:46.380 powerful unions

01:03:47.040 never get held accountable

01:03:48.860 but regular people

01:03:50.380 will get tossed in jail

01:03:51.680 for jaywalking.

01:03:52.560 Two-tier justice system, yeah.

01:03:53.720 Which brings me back

01:03:54.680 to my original point.

01:03:55.760 Don't wear Crocs.

01:03:56.840 Joey, what do you got

01:04:01.400 for us, Joey?

01:04:02.080 I'm just thinking about

01:04:03.160 like how it's wild

01:04:05.220 how we need like

01:04:06.000 to come up with

01:04:06.540 these big laundry lists

01:04:07.580 of things to arrest

01:04:08.340 some politicians

01:04:09.000 or corporate leaders on

01:04:11.040 because they constantly

01:04:12.540 break the law

01:04:13.140 all the fucking time.

01:04:14.720 Here's why it's not

01:04:15.460 the cop's fault necessarily.

01:04:16.620 Oh, I don't care about that.

01:04:17.580 Stop the fucking presses!

01:04:20.580 Yep, if the politicians

01:04:21.800 pass the law

01:04:22.420 to stop the presses

01:04:23.120 the cops would be

01:04:23.760 more than happy

01:04:24.300 to enforce it.

01:04:24.920 They have no respect

01:04:25.860 for any amendments

01:04:26.660 including the first

01:04:27.300 or the second

01:04:27.820 because the first amendment

01:04:29.460 also included the right

01:04:30.540 to peaceably assemble

01:04:31.700 and that was never

01:04:32.860 enforced during COVID.

01:04:33.860 I gotta stop you there, Michael

01:04:34.780 because you're wrong.

01:04:36.040 The police had no problem

01:04:37.220 during COVID

01:04:37.860 enforcing things

01:04:38.960 that weren't even laws.

01:04:39.960 Oh, that's correct.

01:04:40.540 In fact, you and I

01:04:41.580 got into an argument

01:04:42.180 on your show

01:04:42.860 because I was calling

01:04:43.580 something a law

01:04:44.060 and you're like,

01:04:44.360 shut up, no, it's not a law.

01:04:45.320 What was it?

01:04:45.760 Like an edict.

01:04:47.320 Which one?

01:04:47.920 I don't know.

01:04:48.940 Governor from New York,

01:04:49.960 she had some kind of

01:04:50.760 a ruling

01:04:52.800 and you're like,

01:04:53.640 it's not a law,

01:04:54.160 stop calling it a law.

01:04:54.940 It's not even a level of a law.

01:04:55.860 She just decreed.

01:04:56.840 Decreed, decreed.

01:04:57.980 Decreed.

01:04:58.440 And the cops were like,

01:04:59.460 you got it.

01:05:00.500 So the point I was making

01:05:01.360 with Joey's point is

01:05:02.320 wealthy people

01:05:03.680 will always have

01:05:04.880 better access to justice

01:05:06.020 because they're gonna

01:05:06.480 have better lawyers.

01:05:07.640 And there's nothing

01:05:08.120 you can do around it

01:05:09.280 unless you go full communist

01:05:10.780 and just have everyone

01:05:11.420 have a shitty law.

01:05:11.780 Oh, bro, it gets better than that.

01:05:12.800 They don't even need the lawyers.

01:05:14.180 Sometimes when the prosecutors

01:05:16.360 find out they're going up

01:05:17.360 against a guy

01:05:17.740 with millions of dollars,

01:05:18.600 they say,

01:05:19.060 are we gonna be able

01:05:19.860 to win this?

01:05:20.480 Why are we gonna

01:05:21.100 waste the resources?

01:05:21.760 So that's part of the problem

01:05:23.080 is that there's no

01:05:24.340 enforcement wing

01:05:25.120 against people

01:05:25.740 who have a lot of assets

01:05:26.720 and wealth.

01:05:27.660 Unless it's a public spectacle.

01:05:30.060 Yes.

01:05:30.860 Unless it's something

01:05:31.580 they can actually,

01:05:33.180 you know,

01:05:33.460 like, for example,

01:05:34.280 Donald Trump.

01:05:34.960 They would obviously,

01:05:36.260 he's trying to go

01:05:37.360 at the system,

01:05:37.960 so of course

01:05:38.400 they're gonna

01:05:38.680 try to do all they can.

01:05:40.000 Real quick,

01:05:41.220 what if we just got rid

01:05:42.920 of the rich people

01:05:43.540 and took all their stuff

01:05:44.440 and distributed it evenly

01:05:45.920 among everybody?

01:05:47.080 Well, no,

01:05:47.540 he has a good point, though.

01:05:51.160 Well, I want to say

01:05:52.220 my very good friend,

01:05:53.600 Joe Exotic,

01:05:54.600 the Tiger King,

01:05:55.500 you know,

01:05:55.740 he got,

01:05:56.480 we love him,

01:05:57.120 but he got famous

01:05:58.000 after he went to prison.

01:05:59.620 If he would have gotten

01:06:00.300 famous before

01:06:00.980 and he had the money

01:06:01.700 to actually fight

01:06:02.560 in his case

01:06:03.500 with a good criminal

01:06:04.240 defense attorney,

01:06:05.100 his outcome would have

01:06:06.060 been totally different.

01:06:07.060 And he almost got

01:06:07.740 finned by Trump.

01:06:08.720 Oh, come on.

01:06:09.140 He needs to get pardoned.

01:06:10.160 Trump pardoned Joe Exotic.

01:06:11.700 You let Kodak Black out.

01:06:13.380 Hold on.

01:06:14.040 But he didn't get pardoned

01:06:14.920 because he had money.

01:06:15.460 He got pardoned

01:06:16.560 because he was

01:06:17.300 in the public sector.

01:06:19.220 It's different than money.

01:06:19.980 Oh, you're gonna say Black.

01:06:20.460 Were you talking about

01:06:20.900 Kodak Black?

01:06:21.640 So, but this is a good point.

01:06:23.320 Joe Exotic hasn't been pardoned.

01:06:24.180 We need him to get pardoned.

01:06:25.200 This is a good point.

01:06:25.820 You bring up the rich.

01:06:27.200 Currency isn't just,

01:06:28.500 isn't just cash.

01:06:29.520 It's social currency as well.

01:06:30.780 Get out of here, Joey.

01:06:30.800 Thank you, guys.

01:06:31.360 Give it up for Joey.

01:06:32.220 Thanks, Joe.

01:06:33.680 All right.

01:06:35.200 One of the cultural issues

01:06:36.940 that I think is a big problem

01:06:37.860 is people who have

01:06:39.320 large followings

01:06:40.180 get what they want

01:06:41.040 from corporations,

01:06:42.060 from governments

01:06:42.800 because they can create

01:06:44.140 fear of public pressure.

01:06:46.120 All right.

01:06:46.360 So to kind of go against

01:06:47.680 what he was saying

01:06:48.320 where he's like,

01:06:49.720 everybody that's got

01:06:50.300 a bunch of money

01:06:50.900 gets arrested

01:06:52.020 but they get away with it.

01:06:53.320 A lot of people

01:06:54.060 with no money

01:06:54.780 get arrested

01:06:55.360 and get away with it.

01:06:56.160 It's true.

01:06:56.580 If you go to New York State,

01:06:58.060 specifically the city of Buffalo,

01:06:59.080 the one that I police,

01:06:59.800 the amount of people

01:07:00.220 that get picked up

01:07:00.680 with illegal firearms,

01:07:01.780 not to say that they're carrying

01:07:03.240 concealed in a legal manner.

01:07:05.880 I'm saying like people

01:07:06.580 that do it in like

01:07:07.340 for drug sales,

01:07:08.960 for other illegal activities,

01:07:10.180 parts of gangs,

01:07:11.020 their intent is to shoot

01:07:11.760 another person, right?

01:07:12.860 The amount of people

01:07:13.480 that get youthful offender status,

01:07:16.560 juvenile offender status

01:07:17.540 and have the second

01:07:18.200 or third or fourth gun

01:07:19.320 thrown away

01:07:20.160 because they're from

01:07:21.340 a socio-economical people

01:07:22.980 and we don't understand.

01:07:25.480 No, no, no.

01:07:25.820 I'm saying because

01:07:26.740 of crimes they committed,

01:07:28.140 not because they're carrying it.

01:07:29.500 I'm saying specifically

01:07:30.500 because of gang violence,

01:07:32.220 but honing in just on gang violence

01:07:34.140 and drug activity.

01:07:35.120 The amount of people

01:07:36.700 that have no money

01:07:37.440 that get public defenders

01:07:38.420 where the prosecutor's office,

01:07:41.480 the district attorney's office

01:07:42.380 is like,

01:07:43.000 there's too fucking many of them.

01:07:44.500 We're going to drop down there.

01:07:46.080 I put a gun to a guy's head

01:07:47.400 and said,

01:07:47.680 I'm going to fucking kill you.

01:07:48.840 And then the cop showed up

01:07:49.760 and stopped him

01:07:50.580 and we're going to knock it down

01:07:51.900 to attempted assault.

01:07:55.180 So many thousands more

01:07:57.700 than Enron

01:07:58.900 who eventually got caught.

01:07:59.840 You can take everything

01:08:00.820 you said to the bank

01:08:01.600 as gospel

01:08:02.060 because it's completely true

01:08:02.980 and that's really,

01:08:04.280 really scary

01:08:04.720 because if everyone

01:08:05.540 in this room,

01:08:06.020 I was just naive.

01:08:07.300 I thought,

01:08:08.000 if something happens to me,

01:08:09.580 I go to DA

01:08:10.300 and they're going to pursue it.

01:08:11.780 And the amount of crimes,

01:08:13.240 like actual indisputable crimes

01:08:14.820 that DAs pursue

01:08:16.680 is such a small number.

01:08:19.380 So this justice system

01:08:21.240 is just there

01:08:22.420 as a wealth extraction mechanism

01:08:24.340 for the people in government.

01:08:25.720 It is not there

01:08:26.360 to keep you safe.

01:08:27.060 Please carry and have a firearm.

01:08:30.220 So the funny thing

01:08:30.820 about all of this

01:08:31.400 is that I could be wrong.

01:08:32.900 You lost me

01:08:33.340 at wealth extraction,

01:08:34.260 but okay.

01:08:34.900 Correct me if I'm wrong,

01:08:35.820 but my understanding

01:08:37.460 is that if every single person

01:08:39.120 who went before a judge

01:08:40.040 on a crime

01:08:40.540 requested a jury trial,

01:08:41.780 the system would implode.

01:08:43.660 Because it takes a lot of time.

01:08:45.520 And it's impossible.

01:08:46.320 You have to do a lot of stuff.

01:08:47.280 And to quote officer law enforcement,

01:08:52.200 yes, some of these people

01:08:53.280 are made up of people

01:08:54.500 that are inside of your community

01:08:55.420 which are dumb

01:08:56.160 and a specific example is that

01:08:57.920 is we had a gang rape

01:08:59.180 on video

01:08:59.960 Facebook live streamed

01:09:01.840 and of a special needs girl

01:09:04.080 who was 16,

01:09:05.900 the video of it,

01:09:07.140 video of it,

01:09:07.600 and five guys were involved.

01:09:09.320 Two of them were juveniles.

01:09:11.180 And the kidnapping

01:09:13.500 was thrown out,

01:09:15.560 or I'm sorry,

01:09:16.220 the rape was thrown out,

01:09:17.620 but the kidnapping stood

01:09:18.780 because one person thought

01:09:20.120 that even though

01:09:20.980 she was kidnapped,

01:09:22.160 she could still consent to sex.

01:09:23.920 I'm 100% serious.

01:09:26.780 One person thought

01:09:27.760 that even though

01:09:28.560 you're kidnapped,

01:09:29.720 you can still consent to sex.

01:09:31.760 So that person

01:09:32.840 would not go forward

01:09:34.040 with the rape charges

01:09:34.940 of the five people

01:09:36.300 that raped a special needs girl

01:09:37.860 on camera

01:09:38.400 with her crying,

01:09:39.640 no, stop, that hurts.

01:09:41.040 I'm starting to hate

01:09:41.600 human beings again.

01:09:42.400 It's pretty easy to.

01:09:43.600 All right,

01:09:43.980 AK Romanation.

01:09:45.380 AK Romanation.

01:09:47.700 Let's go.

01:09:48.380 Come on down.

01:09:49.120 What do you got for us, AK?

01:09:50.160 Okay.

01:09:50.460 Okay.

01:09:50.520 Okay.

01:09:50.540 Okay.

01:09:50.600 Okay.

01:09:50.660 Okay.

01:09:51.040 Okay.

01:09:51.160 Okay.

01:09:51.460 Okay.

01:09:52.460 Okay.

01:09:52.520 Okay.

01:09:52.540 Okay.

01:09:53.460 I'm from AK Nation.

01:09:55.280 I like very much

01:09:55.940 to put people against wall.

01:09:57.800 Wall knows justice.

01:09:59.320 All right, brother.

01:09:59.720 You got one minute.

01:10:01.900 What's going on, guys?

01:10:02.860 I can't see anything.

01:10:03.720 What's up?

01:10:05.260 I heard that.

01:10:07.280 You don't have to ask us

01:10:08.440 how we're doing.

01:10:08.960 We've been together

01:10:09.460 for the past hour.

01:10:10.340 You know how we're doing.

01:10:11.120 We've been arguing.

01:10:12.000 Just come up here.

01:10:13.020 Ask a question

01:10:13.620 or debate us.

01:10:14.280 Let's go.

01:10:14.800 Gotcha.

01:10:15.180 All right.

01:10:15.520 So from 17 to 31,

01:10:17.620 I was pulled over 22 times.

01:10:20.020 Jesus.

01:10:21.040 Yeah.

01:10:21.920 Are you black?

01:10:22.840 Yeah, I can't tell.

01:10:23.660 Are you black, sir?

01:10:25.480 Maybe.

01:10:26.220 He's not.

01:10:27.020 So that means we're equal.

01:10:28.200 I'm going to get a fraternity test.

01:10:30.100 So I don't understand.

01:10:33.040 Oh, he's Asian.

01:10:34.220 That's why he's bad at driving.

01:10:39.660 Hold on.

01:10:40.140 All right.

01:10:41.400 So seven of those times

01:10:44.380 were because I was just being stupid.

01:10:46.280 I was young, you know,

01:10:47.020 speeding, running through stop signs,

01:10:49.060 things like that.

01:10:50.240 But I never really got an explanation

01:10:52.480 from all of the rest of them.

01:10:54.500 So my question is,

01:10:56.160 what is the legal process

01:10:57.400 in which law enforcement

01:10:58.280 can pull you over?

01:11:00.140 And second,

01:11:01.820 this is kind of like off on the side,

01:11:04.020 the scanning of a license plate

01:11:05.560 of an individual

01:11:06.280 who is not committing a crime,

01:11:07.480 is that a violation

01:11:08.280 of your Fourth Amendment right?

01:11:10.900 All right.

01:11:11.740 Come on up, sir.

01:11:12.500 Come on up, AK.

01:11:13.160 That's good.

01:11:13.680 Give it up for AK.

01:11:16.960 You can answer it.

01:11:17.920 All right.

01:11:18.180 I'll go first.

01:11:19.280 All right.

01:11:19.720 So the reason why

01:11:21.680 you're given a ticket,

01:11:22.440 the explanation is on the ticket.

01:11:24.260 Here's the ticket.

01:11:25.200 This is what you're ticketed for.

01:11:26.820 There's the explanation.

01:11:28.460 They may not have said it

01:11:29.280 to you in person,

01:11:30.120 which is odd.

01:11:30.940 Normally, I would do that

01:11:31.960 as a courtesy.

01:11:33.020 But it's on the ticket.

01:11:35.000 When they give you the ticket,

01:11:36.080 there's the reason

01:11:36.720 why they stopped you.

01:11:38.220 For the,

01:11:39.140 I scan your plate

01:11:40.240 or I type down

01:11:41.700 your license plate

01:11:42.560 without pulling you over

01:11:43.740 or having anything prior to,

01:11:45.460 the license plate

01:11:46.480 in New York State

01:11:47.140 and all other states

01:11:48.280 is owned by the state.

01:11:50.480 You're renting the plate

01:11:51.840 from the state.

01:11:53.360 The state is the state

01:11:54.400 or the plate

01:11:55.160 is the state's property.

01:11:56.800 So I,

01:11:57.580 as a representative

01:11:58.240 of the law enforcement agency

01:11:59.520 within that state,

01:12:00.740 can then run it.

01:12:01.920 And if you are suspended,

01:12:02.980 if the registration

01:12:04.340 is suspended

01:12:05.140 or there's no inspection

01:12:06.480 or the inspection expired

01:12:08.060 or a large thing

01:12:09.680 is that car

01:12:10.720 or the registration

01:12:11.780 that comes back

01:12:12.460 is stolen,

01:12:13.780 then I can,

01:12:14.520 you know,

01:12:14.700 pull it over.

01:12:15.560 So anybody that would like

01:12:16.460 to say,

01:12:16.940 if you run the plate

01:12:17.640 without them doing anything

01:12:18.620 that's bad and illegal,

01:12:20.200 I would then ask you,

01:12:21.120 well,

01:12:21.440 how are we supposed

01:12:22.140 to catch stolen vehicles

01:12:23.920 when the registered owner

01:12:25.340 puts that plate out

01:12:26.420 as stolen?

01:12:27.560 Yeah,

01:12:27.740 now are they,

01:12:28.380 now legally,

01:12:29.260 they're supposed to tell you

01:12:30.280 why they pulled you over,

01:12:31.300 right?

01:12:32.420 Oh,

01:12:32.620 you're black.

01:12:34.940 I knew,

01:12:35.480 I knew this was coming.

01:12:36.680 So there's,

01:12:37.340 there's a time

01:12:38.100 and a place

01:12:38.860 because you get pulled over.

01:12:40.220 It doesn't mean

01:12:40.560 you get to demand

01:12:41.280 that they tell you

01:12:41.900 right then and there

01:12:42.880 for the reason of the stop.

01:12:44.500 And like I said,

01:12:45.360 in the most extreme situation,

01:12:46.860 if they don't say anything,

01:12:47.960 then the ticket

01:12:48.860 that they give you

01:12:49.880 is the reason for the stop,

01:12:51.280 which normally

01:12:51.900 they would explain and say,

01:12:52.960 here's a ticket.

01:12:53.880 It's for speeding.

01:12:54.860 You can choose guilty

01:12:56.240 or not guilty.

01:12:57.240 Here's how you do it.

01:12:58.280 Right,

01:12:58.500 right.

01:12:58.760 Now,

01:12:59.100 so good.

01:13:00.260 Quick,

01:13:00.460 quick follow question.

01:13:01.160 Honest question.

01:13:01.940 What would happen

01:13:02.320 if I got pulled over

01:13:03.100 and just kept my window

01:13:03.860 rolled up and said nothing?

01:13:05.240 The sovereign citizen kind of.

01:13:06.680 No,

01:13:07.000 no,

01:13:07.100 no,

01:13:07.220 just literally,

01:13:08.260 I remain silent.

01:13:09.020 I won't talk to you

01:13:09.780 and I just sat there

01:13:10.980 and did nothing.

01:13:11.640 Yeah,

01:13:12.920 somebody said that.

01:13:13.360 so on body cam.

01:13:15.760 So when you're stopped

01:13:19.300 by police in New York State,

01:13:21.240 because I can speak for that

01:13:22.100 because I know that

01:13:22.700 you are required

01:13:23.420 to show identification

01:13:24.380 and you're licensed

01:13:25.420 for traveling

01:13:26.380 on New York State

01:13:27.200 throughways,

01:13:27.780 thoroughfares in the city,

01:13:28.980 et cetera,

01:13:29.620 because tax dollars

01:13:30.800 paid for the city's roads,

01:13:33.280 the state's thoroughfares,

01:13:34.460 et cetera.

01:13:35.240 So if I pull you over

01:13:36.600 and you refuse

01:13:37.340 to answer any questions,

01:13:38.600 that's one thing.

01:13:39.780 If you keep the window rolled up

01:13:40.940 and refuse to show ID,

01:13:42.220 which is required of you

01:13:43.400 and you sign an agreement

01:13:44.380 when you take your driver's test

01:13:46.180 and get your ID,

01:13:47.440 then it would be obstruction

01:13:48.540 and I could arrest you

01:13:49.460 for obstruction.

01:13:50.600 Likely,

01:13:51.020 most states though,

01:13:52.200 obstruction is the lesser

01:13:53.920 like violation charge.

01:13:55.600 So I might break out

01:13:56.360 your window

01:13:56.760 and tow your car

01:13:57.720 or break out your window

01:13:59.300 and pull you out,

01:14:00.020 but then I would give you

01:14:00.700 like a violation level ticket.

01:14:02.240 So a person could,

01:14:03.040 if they get pulled over,

01:14:03.840 crack their window a little bit.

01:14:04.940 When you walk up,

01:14:05.620 just hand the license,

01:14:06.880 insurance or registration

01:14:07.720 and then say nothing

01:14:08.540 and that's all they have to do?

01:14:10.000 To quote an officer

01:14:10.660 from the law enforcement,

01:14:11.880 all you have to do

01:14:12.680 is provide your ID

01:14:14.480 so you can crack the window

01:14:15.540 and hand it to them,

01:14:16.300 keep your hands up on the wheel

01:14:17.800 so the officer

01:14:18.340 doesn't feel freaked out,

01:14:19.640 say nothing.

01:14:19.980 Can you slap it on the glass

01:14:21.040 with your finger up?

01:14:23.400 You can.

01:14:25.980 Just a question.

01:14:26.940 You can.

01:14:27.820 I would though, however,

01:14:29.920 I would like to get

01:14:31.160 that ID in my hand

01:14:31.960 because people can fake IDs.

01:14:34.260 Okay.

01:14:34.480 So the officer...

01:14:35.240 They want to have it in their hands.

01:14:36.260 We want to have it in our hands.

01:14:37.740 Is that legal?

01:14:38.860 What's that?

01:14:39.340 Is that like a law?

01:14:41.580 A requirement?

01:14:42.360 I don't know.

01:14:42.720 When you're driving a car,

01:14:43.840 you have to have it.

01:14:43.880 Can I argue that you can see it from here?

01:14:45.400 No, but you have to hand it over.

01:14:46.560 So that would be something

01:14:48.060 you'd have to fight in the courts, right?

01:14:50.620 Because it's not worth it.

01:14:51.560 It's not worth it

01:14:52.380 because the legal requirement

01:14:53.900 for me to say,

01:14:54.780 I don't know if that ID's fake.

01:14:56.540 He's just showing me a photo ID.

01:14:58.260 I want to hold it in my hands.

01:14:59.680 I want to check

01:15:00.220 and make sure it's a valid ID.

01:15:01.200 That'd be the same

01:15:01.740 as if somebody didn't have their ID

01:15:03.520 and you had to give them

01:15:04.300 some kind of information though, right?

01:15:05.820 Correct.

01:15:06.720 Yeah, right.

01:15:07.460 Can I say something

01:15:08.240 or are you going to yell at me again?

01:15:10.820 I meant Tim.

01:15:11.660 Tim yelled at me, not you.

01:15:12.540 Me?

01:15:12.920 No, we didn't yell at you.

01:15:14.360 Okay.

01:15:14.720 Alex yelled at me.

01:15:15.600 I was just trying to get this show going.

01:15:17.720 Hold on.

01:15:18.060 When I was a kid,

01:15:19.040 because I'm the oldest person

01:15:20.080 probably on this platform.

01:15:21.840 Probably not, but anyway.

01:15:23.040 Because I'm an ancient evil

01:15:24.520 from times immemorial.

01:15:26.320 People used to sneeze in their hands

01:15:27.720 and then you shake hands

01:15:29.100 and people get sick.

01:15:30.280 And then there was a big campaign,

01:15:31.680 hey, sneeze into your elbow

01:15:32.720 and everyone's like,

01:15:33.820 oh shit, why are we sneezing

01:15:34.580 into our hands, right?

01:15:35.780 So my point is,

01:15:37.600 everyone thinks speeding tickets

01:15:38.820 are just something you do,

01:15:40.200 but if you stop at thinking about it,

01:15:41.540 it makes no sense.

01:15:42.920 Because if I,

01:15:44.020 what speeding tickets are,

01:15:45.140 are a way to fuck over poor people

01:15:46.620 and a way to get money

01:15:48.400 for the government.

01:15:49.560 If I'm a danger,

01:15:50.520 like if I'm a DUI,

01:15:51.720 you pull me over,

01:15:52.800 I shouldn't be driving.

01:15:54.540 Hey, you know who agreed?

01:15:55.980 Hitler, he did in the Autobahn.

01:15:57.620 They had no speed limits.

01:15:58.960 Still got that.

01:15:59.300 Great contribution.

01:16:00.200 But they did.

01:16:01.160 I mean, I'm saying.

01:16:02.080 Hitler was right about you.

01:16:03.420 Well, you could drive

01:16:04.500 as fast as you wanted,

01:16:05.380 so you agree with Hitler.

01:16:06.460 Point being,

01:16:06.900 if I'm wealthy,

01:16:07.660 the speed ticket's not gonna matter.

01:16:09.200 But if I'm extremely poor,

01:16:10.760 that $100 is gonna make

01:16:11.920 a big difference one way or another.

01:16:13.400 And it's very fucked up.

01:16:16.120 What's going on here?

01:16:17.160 I don't know.

01:16:17.700 It's very fucked up

01:16:19.060 that this is something that happens

01:16:20.600 and there's no other situation

01:16:21.880 where they just give you a ticket.

01:16:23.360 Maybe we could take all the money

01:16:24.980 from the rich people

01:16:25.700 and then evenly distribute it out

01:16:26.880 to everybody.

01:16:27.900 Or maybe if someone commits a crime

01:16:29.680 that's not hurting anyone

01:16:30.580 or is actually threatening people,

01:16:32.400 you give them a warning.

01:16:33.340 Enough times,

01:16:34.120 you're not allowed to drive.

01:16:35.200 But the ticket in this situation

01:16:36.420 is only a way

01:16:37.440 to regressively tax supporters.

01:16:39.000 Speeding is potentially hurting somebody.

01:16:41.120 Everything's potentially hurting somebody.

01:16:42.820 Okay,

01:16:43.400 that's a good fucking argument.

01:16:45.000 But hold on.

01:16:45.800 There are certain countries, though,

01:16:47.480 that do that one.

01:16:48.000 I take shits

01:16:48.160 and those potentially hurt somebody.

01:16:49.800 Oh, you're gonna say a great point.

01:16:51.300 Go ahead.

01:16:51.480 I know what you're gonna say.

01:16:52.060 Yeah, so there are certain countries,

01:16:53.400 I believe some Scandinavian countries

01:16:55.260 that have it on a tier system.

01:16:56.640 So the tickets are based off

01:16:58.440 of how much you make.

01:16:59.580 That's better.

01:16:59.940 That makes more sense.

01:17:00.980 It makes a hell of a lot more sense.

01:17:02.320 Awesome.

01:17:02.840 That's communism.

01:17:03.420 All right, guys,

01:17:04.700 give it up for AK Roma.

01:17:05.840 Thank you, AK.

01:17:10.380 His hand's so sweaty.

01:17:11.940 All right,

01:17:12.280 Stephen Sharper,

01:17:13.700 Stephen Schapper,

01:17:14.740 is that what it is?

01:17:15.480 Stephen Schapper,

01:17:16.260 I see you over there.

01:17:17.000 Come on down.

01:17:17.760 Let's go, guys.

01:17:18.620 Give it up for Stephen.

01:17:19.420 Give it up, everybody.

01:17:20.340 Hurry.

01:17:21.140 Thank you.

01:17:21.480 It would be nice

01:17:22.160 to give a speeding ticket

01:17:23.140 to somebody in an Aston Martin

01:17:24.580 and for them to be like,

01:17:25.800 fuck,

01:17:26.320 instead of,

01:17:26.900 I'll pay this.

01:17:27.820 Yeah.

01:17:28.160 Yeah.

01:17:28.860 Parking tickets, too.

01:17:30.180 In Chicago at Wrigley Field,

01:17:31.940 people intentionally double park

01:17:33.220 because a $50 parking ticket

01:17:34.540 is cheaper than parking.

01:17:35.280 Yeah.

01:17:36.160 It's just a fee.

01:17:37.480 I feel like parking

01:17:38.200 is different than speeding.

01:17:39.420 For sure, for sure,

01:17:40.120 but it's...

01:17:40.840 I used to get tickets

01:17:41.540 for being on a train

01:17:42.540 in Australia

01:17:43.060 without having a ticket

01:17:44.160 because I didn't want

01:17:44.920 to buy a ticket

01:17:45.480 and when they would

01:17:46.320 give me the ticket,

01:17:47.240 I would act like

01:17:47.820 it wasn't a lot of money,

01:17:49.120 but it was.

01:17:50.320 But I was just trying

01:17:51.180 to, like,

01:17:51.500 piss them off.

01:17:52.540 You look like a guy

01:17:53.200 that really likes trains.

01:17:54.580 The term is trainable.

01:17:59.420 Oh, how did you take that?

01:18:02.860 Autism.

01:18:03.400 Autism.

01:18:03.820 All right, Stephen,

01:18:04.440 what do you got for us, brother?

01:18:05.420 Hey, how's everybody doing?

01:18:06.800 Don't ask us that, okay?

01:18:08.500 I'm going to ask you that.

01:18:09.480 Whatever you have to say,

01:18:10.760 say your point or debate.

01:18:12.360 You see how we're doing?

01:18:13.640 We're up here

01:18:13.920 trying to do a damn show.

01:18:15.260 Is Alex a cop?

01:18:16.640 Kind of.

01:18:17.280 I'm the show cop.

01:18:18.400 I'm trying to make

01:18:18.880 this thing run.

01:18:19.480 All this rage.

01:18:20.360 Okay, okay, okay.

01:18:21.120 Here's the question.

01:18:21.600 Here's the question, right?

01:18:22.600 All right, so since we have

01:18:23.560 kind of varying

01:18:24.120 opinions here up on the stage,

01:18:26.540 what would reorganization

01:18:27.680 of different police departments,

01:18:28.840 such as the NYCPD,

01:18:30.960 look like,

01:18:31.960 so that way it more aligns

01:18:33.660 with societal norms,

01:18:35.340 i.e.

01:18:35.740 more federalization,

01:18:36.880 more bringing it down

01:18:37.520 to the basic levels

01:18:38.340 of the bureaus,

01:18:39.460 or is it just too far gone

01:18:41.500 and we just got to replace

01:18:42.140 everybody with big booty Latinas?

01:18:43.360 Yeah, we love that.

01:18:45.980 That made no sense

01:18:46.780 because you said NYCP.

01:18:48.320 You mean NYPD, right?

01:18:50.320 We all understood.

01:18:51.780 Okay.

01:18:52.300 I didn't.

01:18:52.820 I don't.

01:18:53.100 New York Citizens Patrol.

01:18:54.080 You know what NYCPD means?

01:18:56.840 CPD means my butthole

01:18:57.920 shoots out shit, doesn't it?

01:19:02.780 Frankly,

01:19:03.700 if the NYPD

01:19:05.200 or the NYCPD

01:19:06.160 was doing, like,

01:19:07.440 how I would like it,

01:19:08.820 there'd be a lot fewer

01:19:10.000 politicians around,

01:19:10.920 if you know what I mean.

01:19:11.560 Okay, our next person,

01:19:16.160 yeah, that question sucked.

01:19:17.100 Go sit down.

01:19:19.280 Donnie Dossie.

01:19:20.140 Who's Donnie Dossie?

01:19:21.900 Donnie, you here?

01:19:23.940 Oh, that was quick.

01:19:24.780 He's already here.

01:19:25.340 He's already here.

01:19:26.080 Awesome.

01:19:26.460 All right, Donnie,

01:19:26.920 you got a minute.

01:19:27.500 What's up, brother?

01:19:28.180 All right, all right.

01:19:28.780 How we doing?

01:19:30.480 I'm not going to ask that question.

01:19:31.820 I'm asking you.

01:19:32.400 How you doing?

01:19:33.080 How am I doing?

01:19:33.960 You know,

01:19:34.240 I'm having a freaking blast.

01:19:34.860 Don't answer.

01:19:35.580 Everyone's having a blast.

01:19:36.700 All right, all right, all right.

01:19:37.800 Exactly.

01:19:38.520 All right, so here's the deal.

01:19:39.860 I'm shitty with names,

01:19:40.720 so I'm pointing at Pornstache cop guy.

01:19:43.420 There's two Pornstache cops.

01:19:44.440 Which Pornstache cop?

01:19:45.740 Okay.

01:19:46.580 All right.

01:19:47.440 Not you.

01:19:48.320 You got the...

01:19:49.720 You and I are on the same page.

01:19:51.640 We got the bald head.

01:19:52.320 We're there.

01:19:53.460 All right, all right, all right.

01:19:54.180 So I heard you earlier.

01:19:56.260 All right, so I think everybody can agree here

01:19:57.900 that we've all encountered an asshole cop or two

01:20:00.220 in our lifetimes.

01:20:01.100 I have.

01:20:01.560 I've worked with enough cops.

01:20:02.260 But for the most part,

01:20:03.680 cops really aren't that bad.

01:20:05.640 They're not assholes.

01:20:06.720 Now, I'm hearing Pornstache sitting here

01:20:09.260 saying that no cops are ever held accountable.

01:20:12.340 However, I would argue that's not true,

01:20:15.360 especially when we have cops

01:20:16.540 that are being held accountable

01:20:17.560 for merely following their training,

01:20:19.920 such as Derek Chauvin.

01:20:21.620 Derek Chauvin was not held accountable.

01:20:23.420 Derek Chauvin was railroaded.

01:20:24.540 I agree, he's railroaded,

01:20:26.140 but they call it accountability.

01:20:27.800 But besides, I really wanted to get to Alex.

01:20:31.740 I really wanted to get to Alex here.

01:20:34.080 I think he even murdered one.

01:20:35.300 Alex, Alex.

01:20:36.440 Yes, Donnie.

01:20:37.100 So you were asking him if he felt guilty

01:20:40.100 about conducting interviews or whatever

01:20:43.720 after reading the rights and whatnot.

01:20:45.800 Okay, okay.

01:20:47.760 You're amazing at what you do.

01:20:49.460 I know.

01:20:49.940 I'm kissing your ass right now.

01:20:51.340 Thank you.

01:20:52.720 Okay, okay, okay.

01:20:53.540 Do you feel bad?

01:20:56.280 Do you feel bad about being better at your job

01:20:58.900 than other people or theirs?

01:21:01.140 Yeah, actually I do because I'm empathetic

01:21:03.100 because I'm a superstar

01:21:04.060 and I see some of these other people

01:21:05.600 and I feel like, you know,

01:21:07.740 then you guys will never know

01:21:09.080 what it's like to live in space

01:21:10.340 with me and the aliens.

01:21:12.680 No, what the fuck do you...

01:21:13.580 Wait, what are you trying to do?

01:21:14.620 Are you trying to troll me right now, dude?

01:21:16.320 All right?

01:21:16.820 What are you trying to do?

01:21:18.080 Here's my point.

01:21:18.880 Here's my point.

01:21:19.620 I work in sales.

01:21:20.640 He works as a cop.

01:21:21.580 His job is to get suspects to speak.

01:21:24.920 The suspect's job is to not speak.

01:21:27.220 Should he feel bad about being better at his job

01:21:29.620 than the suspect is at theirs?

01:21:30.740 Yes, because the suspect's an average person.

01:21:33.000 We're all average people.

01:21:34.480 No, we're not.

01:21:35.220 Speak for yourself, buddy.

01:21:37.920 My guest, let me answer your question.

01:21:38.920 And I don't think you're average.

01:21:40.160 And there's been probably not one...

01:21:41.940 I'm above average.

01:21:42.680 I appreciate it.

01:21:43.220 Thank you.

01:21:43.420 And tell me if I'm wrong, Rich.

01:21:44.840 There's probably been not one example of a time

01:21:47.680 where you told the guy,

01:21:49.020 hey, stop talking to me and get a lawyer.

01:21:51.260 Have you ever said that?

01:21:52.220 Have you miranderized somebody and said,

01:21:53.600 you know what, actually, don't talk to me.

01:21:54.740 Your best interest would be, say, I need a lawyer.

01:21:56.660 Have you ever gave...

01:21:57.540 No.

01:21:58.040 And a cop never would.

01:21:59.060 But that would be the best for them

01:22:00.880 and their safety and their day in court.

01:22:03.380 Wouldn't that always be the best option

01:22:04.800 not to talk to a cop?

01:22:05.920 It depends.

01:22:06.480 If you're a suspect,

01:22:07.620 it would probably be your best thing.

01:22:08.960 If you're a subject...

01:22:09.500 That's your best thing, yes.

01:22:10.440 If you're a victim, you talk to a cop.

01:22:12.180 I'm talking about just if you're a suspect.

01:22:13.740 If you're being considered as a...

01:22:15.600 They want to charge you with a crime,

01:22:17.140 it never benefits you to talk to a cop.

01:22:19.800 Zero percent of the time.

01:22:21.820 And this is what they say.

01:22:22.960 And this is what Rich will say.

01:22:23.840 They say, oh, you know what?

01:22:24.680 You need it to be...

01:22:25.340 If you're good to us now,

01:22:26.660 oh, we're going to tell the judge and the DA

01:22:28.400 and they're going to take it easy on you.

01:22:29.800 The judge and the DA don't give a fuck.

01:22:31.640 I'm going to agree.

01:22:32.680 You shouldn't be talking to cops without lawyers.

01:22:35.200 But at the same time,

01:22:36.200 I'm not going to say that he's doing a bad job

01:22:38.140 by convincing people to speak.

01:22:39.560 That's the problem.

01:22:40.120 I said it's the honest cops

01:22:41.120 who are the ones who are the problem,

01:22:41.960 not the corrupt ones.

01:22:42.580 There are a few corrupt ones.

01:22:43.460 It's the honest ones who are the problem.

01:22:44.400 Yeah, that is true.

01:22:45.300 A few corrupt ones.

01:22:46.340 I appreciate that.

01:22:46.960 I stole a girl's bike once

01:22:47.980 because I needed...

01:22:49.180 Jesus.

01:22:49.480 There was no more trains.

01:22:50.960 It was the only bike I could find

01:22:52.340 and it was raining

01:22:53.440 and the cops pulled me over

01:22:54.640 while I was pedaling down the road

01:22:55.780 at one in the morning

01:22:56.400 on a girl's pink bike

01:22:57.440 and they said,

01:22:58.840 where did you get that?

01:23:01.760 And I said, it's my sister's.

01:23:03.200 And then he said,

01:23:06.320 come on, man, be honest.

01:23:07.420 Are you lying?

01:23:07.980 And I was like,

01:23:08.420 all right, I stole it.

01:23:09.740 And then he fucking arrested me,

01:23:11.320 fucking asshole.

01:23:14.180 That's entrapment.

01:23:15.700 I also want to make another serious point,

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01:24:28.980 A 12-year-old jury

01:24:30.320 and possibly look at 40,

01:24:32.240 a lot of you would take the three.

01:24:33.440 I probably would.

01:24:34.280 Yeah.

01:24:34.560 So what he's talking about

01:24:36.720 with those interrogations is

01:24:38.000 you're forcing that person

01:24:39.400 into a situation

01:24:40.240 where it's three versus life.

01:24:42.420 And of course,

01:24:42.920 you're going to admit

01:24:44.140 to being guilty

01:24:44.760 to something you didn't do

01:24:45.680 because the alternative

01:24:46.600 is much, much worse.

01:24:48.240 Hold on.

01:24:48.700 So you're kind of

01:24:50.080 pigeonholing the argument.

01:24:51.040 When it's an agreement

01:24:52.080 for a plea,

01:24:52.920 that means that the defense

01:24:54.140 gets all of the evidence

01:24:55.840 from the prosecution.

01:24:57.220 They get to go over it.

01:24:58.580 Sure.

01:24:58.760 They get to determine,

01:24:59.780 hey, here's what they have

01:25:00.960 to prove that you did it.

01:25:02.240 And then they get to decide.

01:25:03.860 That's not something

01:25:04.400 that the police officer

01:25:05.720 there is investigating

01:25:06.600 gets to do.

01:25:07.400 That's something

01:25:08.020 that like the very ass

01:25:09.320 and of justice being served.

01:25:10.880 The evidence is,

01:25:11.920 the interview is the evidence.

01:25:13.640 So you can talk your way

01:25:14.920 into something

01:25:15.480 that'll be very,

01:25:16.360 very hard to get out of.

01:25:18.320 I'm sorry, say that again.

01:25:19.140 Your story's not,

01:25:19.860 if you're very nervous,

01:25:21.200 and we've all been nervous

01:25:22.020 being on a job interview

01:25:22.880 and maybe your story

01:25:24.200 differs in some details,

01:25:25.380 now they can say,

01:25:26.040 look, you told the cop

01:25:27.040 here you go in the supermarket.

01:25:28.380 Here you said

01:25:28.880 they're going to 7-Eleven.

01:25:30.080 Now you're lying.

01:25:31.080 So now we got you

01:25:32.020 and you said

01:25:32.500 you didn't like this person.

01:25:33.340 That's motive.

01:25:34.160 So listen,

01:25:34.940 we can put you away for life

01:25:35.980 or we can just have you

01:25:36.860 for two years.

01:25:37.480 What's it going to be?

01:25:38.340 You know,

01:25:38.700 I actually don't think

01:25:40.260 it works out that way,

01:25:41.700 to be honest.

01:25:42.340 The idea that

01:25:43.220 in most circumstances

01:25:45.080 they're going to say,

01:25:45.800 aha, you confused something.

01:25:47.200 In my experience,

01:25:48.120 what actually happened to me

01:25:49.500 is they just said,

01:25:51.080 quite literally,

01:25:51.900 I don't give a fuck

01:25:53.040 what you think.

01:25:53.700 I'm going to say

01:25:54.080 whatever I want.

01:25:54.760 Oh, sure.

01:25:55.260 Okay.

01:25:55.580 Like the idea

01:25:56.260 they're going to go,

01:25:56.640 aha, I finally caught you.

01:25:57.680 Oh, they're not going

01:25:58.040 to admit it.

01:25:58.780 No, but I mean like

01:25:59.540 they don't need an excuse.

01:26:00.800 I agree.

01:26:01.640 They're just going to say,

01:26:02.320 bro, I'm going to accuse you

01:26:03.260 of wrong way.

01:26:03.520 I'm trying to steal

01:26:03.700 the composition.

01:26:04.700 Yeah, okay.

01:26:05.400 What do you got, Jason?

01:26:06.280 No, the gay cop

01:26:07.040 wants to say something.

01:26:07.960 Oh, God.

01:26:09.800 God, I have a question.

01:26:11.880 Okay, Michael,

01:26:13.840 you're a capitalist, correct?

01:26:15.580 No.

01:26:16.320 He's an anarchist.

01:26:17.280 I'm an anarcho-capitalist.

01:26:18.400 So, no, no,

01:26:19.000 I'm not an anarcho-capitalist.

01:26:20.180 So, this is really,

01:26:21.180 that's not correct.

01:26:22.220 Sorry, I'm sorry.

01:26:23.160 I'm not trying

01:26:23.740 to pigeonhole you.

01:26:24.560 You are.

01:26:25.380 No, I'm not.

01:26:26.160 I'm asking

01:26:26.900 a legitimate question.

01:26:27.700 And I answered

01:26:27.920 two of those questions.

01:26:28.600 And you said no.

01:26:29.200 And now we're done.

01:26:31.000 He's an anarcho-centrist.

01:26:32.580 I do not think

01:26:33.480 capitalism is a defensible term.

01:26:35.160 Do you think

01:26:35.900 that a free market

01:26:36.560 is positive?

01:26:38.380 Yes.

01:26:38.780 Would you prefer

01:26:39.260 a free market

01:26:39.880 over anything else?

01:26:41.260 I don't know.

01:26:42.060 I'd have to think about it.

01:26:42.800 Okay, well,

01:26:43.280 I'll give you a scenario.

01:26:44.180 No.

01:26:45.860 I'm not speaking,

01:26:46.980 I'm not answering

01:26:47.540 questions from a cop.

01:26:48.340 If you're a person

01:26:49.060 that has,

01:26:49.900 if you're a person

01:26:50.500 of sound mind

01:26:51.300 and sound body

01:26:52.140 and you choose

01:26:53.300 to make a business decision

01:26:55.120 with all the information

01:26:56.060 in front of you,

01:26:57.700 how is that a bad thing?

01:26:59.280 Because if I'm

01:26:59.960 a police officer

01:27:00.500 saying here are your rights

01:27:01.500 and here's all the information

01:27:02.440 in front of you,

01:27:03.700 is that not capitalism?

01:27:04.760 Is that not giving you

01:27:05.820 all the information

01:27:06.560 that's necessary

01:27:07.260 and available

01:27:07.760 in order for you

01:27:08.700 to make a choice

01:27:09.420 and then you choose it?

01:27:10.860 So I literally told you

01:27:11.820 I find capitalism

01:27:12.520 an indefensible term

01:27:13.500 and now you're proceeding

01:27:14.260 as if I'm for capitalism.

01:27:15.400 I didn't,

01:27:15.660 I just asked you a question.

01:27:16.400 I didn't say

01:27:16.660 that that's how you thought.

01:27:17.420 I said,

01:27:18.300 it's not an example of capitalism?

01:27:19.620 Sure, I don't know.

01:27:20.860 All right,

01:27:21.360 next victim,

01:27:23.100 Rolf Hendricks.

01:27:24.080 It's Rolf Hendricks here.

01:27:25.180 Rolf, come on down, Rolf.

01:27:29.200 And don't ask us

01:27:30.120 how we're doing.

01:27:31.900 It's not well.

01:27:33.000 Yeah, start off

01:27:33.680 with a wiener joke.

01:27:34.240 Well, if I only get one minute,

01:27:35.880 I'm going to err

01:27:36.380 on the side of inclusiveness.

01:27:37.580 I have a question

01:27:38.100 that includes everyone.

01:27:39.340 What would it take

01:27:40.280 for you to adopt

01:27:41.160 the complete opposite position

01:27:42.780 of what you're adopting

01:27:43.700 right now?

01:27:44.180 Paint us a colorful picture

01:27:45.560 of what it would take.

01:27:46.220 I'm a milquetoast fence sitter,

01:27:47.700 so I'll go either way.

01:27:48.380 I don't know what the opposite

01:27:52.780 of my position

01:27:53.980 would be that cops

01:27:54.500 aren't human beings,

01:27:55.400 and I think that would take

01:27:56.220 a lot for me

01:27:56.760 to go to that position.

01:27:57.960 Wait, Michael,

01:27:58.460 have you never been in

01:28:00.240 a dark alley or something

01:28:01.300 and you see five black dudes

01:28:02.500 and you wish there was a cop there?

01:28:03.840 Have you ever been in a situation

01:28:04.660 where you want a cop there?

01:28:06.880 Statistically speaking.

01:28:08.400 I grew up in New York,

01:28:10.440 so I remember New York

01:28:11.700 before Giuliani.

01:28:13.660 And what happened is

01:28:14.700 it wouldn't necessarily

01:28:15.520 be black people,

01:28:16.180 it was also Hispanics.

01:28:17.120 There's also white people.

01:28:18.380 I didn't say white,

01:28:19.900 I said Hispanic.

01:28:21.040 It was black.

01:28:21.600 Come on,

01:28:22.040 don't put words in my mouth, officer.

01:28:24.200 Point being, yes,

01:28:25.600 there are things

01:28:26.240 that are worse than the police.

01:28:27.460 Like I said,

01:28:27.940 cops are human beings.

01:28:29.200 They're not the worst thing ever.

01:28:31.140 Certainly gangs

01:28:32.380 which can roam around

01:28:33.800 with impunity

01:28:34.380 are much worse

01:28:35.760 than the police,

01:28:36.500 but the police are just

01:28:37.500 a different type of gang.

01:28:38.440 They're a gang you approve of.

01:28:39.380 So right,

01:28:39.880 so let me ask you this

01:28:40.640 from the audience member's question.

01:28:43.000 What degree of violence

01:28:45.000 or crime

01:28:45.520 or what in society

01:28:47.420 would make you say,

01:28:48.260 you know what,

01:28:49.020 I want a police force

01:28:51.120 out in full force?

01:28:52.860 I want a lot more security.

01:28:55.560 I think our system

01:28:56.420 is a very poor way

01:28:57.640 of getting there.

01:28:58.600 That's all I'm saying.

01:28:59.140 Is the question,

01:28:59.820 you think there is,

01:29:00.740 honest question,

01:29:01.700 there is no circumstance

01:29:02.760 where you would want

01:29:03.660 the police?

01:29:04.640 There are many cases

01:29:05.380 I would want the police

01:29:06.100 because the police

01:29:07.040 are creating a situation

01:29:07.840 where they're the only answer.

01:29:08.960 For example,

01:29:09.420 if you kidnap me

01:29:10.280 and you give me food,

01:29:11.540 yeah,

01:29:11.740 I want your food.

01:29:12.320 I understand.

01:29:13.220 The question is,

01:29:14.460 is there a circumstance

01:29:15.340 where you would agree,

01:29:17.340 you know what,

01:29:18.020 because something has happened,

01:29:19.940 I want the government

01:29:20.700 to institute a police department.

01:29:21.620 Let's say there's no police at all.

01:29:23.080 Could something happen

01:29:23.860 where you say,

01:29:24.380 we should establish

01:29:24.940 a police force?

01:29:27.260 Like a monopolistic government.

01:29:29.200 Sure.

01:29:29.520 Like if there's some kind

01:29:30.300 of like war,

01:29:30.860 like we're just leaving war.

01:29:32.120 Like Germany's bombed out

01:29:33.700 at the end of World War II,

01:29:34.540 right?

01:29:34.860 People are stealing food.

01:29:36.220 There's no whatever.

01:29:37.140 If in that emergency situation,

01:29:38.260 like, all right,

01:29:38.520 we're going to have a mandate

01:29:39.460 of some kind

01:29:39.900 of insane security system.

01:29:41.120 Yeah,

01:29:41.280 that makes sense to me.

01:29:42.420 Well,

01:29:42.540 that would be martial law,

01:29:43.300 wouldn't it?

01:29:43.480 We already have that.

01:29:44.480 If you couldn't place it,

01:29:45.560 you wouldn't place martial law.

01:29:47.760 All right,

01:29:48.320 sit your ass down.

01:29:49.160 Next person.

01:29:50.940 Denzel Wright.

01:29:51.900 Is Denzel Wright here?

01:29:54.020 Come on down, Denzel.

01:29:55.520 I like this.

01:29:56.980 Very urban sounding name.

01:29:58.740 Denzel,

01:29:59.140 when you grab the mic,

01:29:59.840 you need to do

01:30:00.280 a Denzel Washington impression

01:30:01.720 right away.

01:30:03.040 I want you to say,

01:30:04.040 get your hands off me.

01:30:07.460 So I got a quick question.

01:30:09.460 What are your thoughts

01:30:10.080 on ICE

01:30:10.640 and what if we didn't

01:30:12.340 have ICE

01:30:12.900 to be sending

01:30:13.580 the Big Booty Latinas

01:30:14.840 to Alligator Alcatraz?

01:30:16.620 Well,

01:30:17.080 don't you,

01:30:17.520 I feel like you would

01:30:18.860 support federalized government

01:30:20.400 in some aspect

01:30:21.200 of protecting borders.

01:30:22.700 Why do you feel

01:30:23.580 the constant need

01:30:24.780 to ascribe views to me?

01:30:27.820 I'm asking.

01:30:28.780 I'm saying,

01:30:29.700 would you?

01:30:30.340 I feel like.

01:30:31.300 I'm saying you need.

01:30:31.960 Can you answer my question?

01:30:32.960 What's that?

01:30:33.320 Why do you feel

01:30:34.020 the constant need

01:30:34.780 to ascribe views to me?

01:30:35.880 Because I don't know

01:30:36.400 what you think about things.

01:30:37.380 I want to ask you questions

01:30:38.140 to see how you think.

01:30:38.800 But you're framing it

01:30:39.800 in such a way

01:30:40.520 that you're presuming

01:30:41.420 my answer.

01:30:42.200 Well,

01:30:42.380 I said I feel.

01:30:43.720 That's why I said

01:30:44.560 I feel that this

01:30:45.760 might be something

01:30:46.300 and you can dispute it.

01:30:47.360 Sure,

01:30:47.680 but your feelings

01:30:48.480 are the problem

01:30:49.460 because when cops

01:30:50.340 are implementing the law

01:30:51.900 and they're having

01:30:52.700 a bad day,

01:30:53.560 they're going to

01:30:54.380 take their feelings

01:30:54.980 out on the side

01:30:55.980 of your head.

01:30:56.760 Facts don't care

01:30:57.360 about your feelings,

01:30:58.080 folks.

01:30:58.480 Mr. Malice,

01:30:59.580 do you support ICE?

01:31:01.440 I think having

01:31:04.340 open borders

01:31:05.040 is disastrous

01:31:05.980 for America.

01:31:07.520 Yeah.

01:31:08.000 However,

01:31:08.840 I'm going to say

01:31:09.720 one more point.

01:31:10.660 I had Owen Schroyer

01:31:11.640 on my show

01:31:12.300 and this is Owen's words,

01:31:13.620 not mine.

01:31:14.500 And Owen went to

01:31:15.340 Jeff,

01:31:15.600 he's one of the

01:31:16.080 January 6th martyrs.

01:31:17.320 He's hardly on the left

01:31:18.500 and his whole point is

01:31:19.840 if you have someone here

01:31:21.000 who's been working

01:31:21.400 on a farm

01:31:21.820 for like 20 years,

01:31:23.420 like this is not

01:31:24.160 my priority

01:31:24.760 to take them

01:31:25.280 and deport them.

01:31:26.580 And he goes,

01:31:27.080 this is going to

01:31:27.480 backfire really bad

01:31:28.320 in the Republican Party

01:31:29.120 and I don't think

01:31:29.880 he's entirely wrong.

01:31:30.600 I think the bigger issue

01:31:31.360 That's why Big Booty Latinas

01:31:32.860 get to stay, right?

01:31:33.560 No, no.

01:31:33.880 I think the bigger issue

01:31:34.820 instead of the illegal immigrants

01:31:36.780 is birthright citizenship.

01:31:38.660 That's what's attracting

01:31:39.860 people to come here.

01:31:40.480 So let me ask you this question.

01:31:42.040 Should we have a privatized

01:31:43.640 immigration enforcement system?

01:31:45.980 It would be more effective,

01:31:46.880 don't you think?

01:31:47.640 So, but,

01:31:48.640 is that yes?

01:31:49.460 Like each local jurisdiction

01:31:50.500 What do you mean by we?

01:31:51.920 Should the people

01:31:52.820 who live in various communities

01:31:54.020 upon themselves

01:31:55.300 create private enterprise

01:31:56.900 that would be supported

01:31:58.280 by individuals

01:31:58.860 who had subscribed

01:31:59.340 to the service

01:31:59.840 to go to businesses

01:32:01.020 and go to homes

01:32:02.000 and take people

01:32:02.580 who are here illegally

01:32:03.160 and deport them?

01:32:04.280 No, I don't think

01:32:05.140 it should be done

01:32:05.540 in the community

01:32:06.080 because that's not

01:32:06.620 going to be effective, right?

01:32:07.340 Because if my community

01:32:07.960 It's not private businesses

01:32:08.740 But my point is

01:32:09.480 And then people have to pay for it.

01:32:10.860 Right, but my point is

01:32:11.580 if they're just looking at Austin

01:32:13.040 and I know that they're

01:32:13.920 going to be bad in Austin

01:32:14.560 as an illegal immigrant

01:32:15.380 I'm just going to go

01:32:16.260 to San Antonio

01:32:16.760 or somewhere else.

01:32:17.420 So unless it's some kind

01:32:18.440 of federal border thing

01:32:19.400 it's really going to have

01:32:20.360 an insane amount of loopholes.

01:32:21.660 So should the federal

01:32:22.660 should the people then

01:32:23.900 should there be

01:32:24.860 some federal jurisdiction

01:32:26.000 like federal private company

01:32:28.840 that do immigration enforcement

01:32:30.160 who pays for it?

01:32:32.620 Like who's the customer?

01:32:35.220 If you're going to have

01:32:36.360 a national government

01:32:37.640 you're going to have

01:32:38.300 some taxation to find

01:32:39.920 In your view

01:32:41.580 with no police

01:32:42.680 and we want to enforce

01:32:44.260 immigration enforcement

01:32:44.440 Wait, wait, no

01:32:44.840 in my view

01:32:45.280 there's just no government police

01:32:46.560 there's still private police

01:32:47.520 Yes, agreed, agreed.

01:32:48.620 So in this system

01:32:49.280 of private police

01:32:50.000 But the thing is

01:32:50.680 in my view

01:32:51.140 there's no birthright citizenship

01:32:52.280 everything's private

01:32:53.280 A lot of these issues

01:32:54.540 kind of fall by the wayside

01:32:56.200 because you could hire

01:32:56.780 and fire whoever you want

01:32:57.840 So even if they just

01:32:59.320 walked across the border then?

01:33:00.500 Right.

01:33:01.040 So there'd be tons of people

01:33:02.200 who weren't probably

01:33:02.680 just coming here

01:33:03.240 without any laws

01:33:04.460 But also there'd be tons

01:33:05.560 of people who aren't

01:33:06.060 getting free welfare

01:33:06.860 they're already getting

01:33:07.720 free schooling

01:33:08.640 they're already getting

01:33:09.480 driver's licenses

01:33:10.320 they're not getting

01:33:11.180 all these other things

01:33:11.840 so the number of people

01:33:13.240 who come here

01:33:13.780 the problem with the immigrants

01:33:15.060 isn't necessarily

01:33:16.120 like that stereotypical guy

01:33:17.580 who's like outside

01:33:18.180 Home Depot

01:33:18.500 wants a job

01:33:18.920 So it's the people

01:33:20.280 who are just here

01:33:20.860 to be on the dole

01:33:21.560 and then to raise

01:33:22.320 their kids to a Democrat

01:33:23.220 So in the system

01:33:24.240 where currently polling

01:33:25.700 shows that most people

01:33:27.100 this is across the board

01:33:27.840 even CNN finds this

01:33:28.840 want illegal immigrants

01:33:30.300 deported

01:33:30.720 Sure, and I'm not

01:33:31.480 against that

01:33:31.940 Who is the customer base

01:33:33.560 to hire a private

01:33:35.040 immigration company?

01:33:36.680 So I don't know

01:33:37.520 that that would work

01:33:37.940 in a private mechanism

01:33:39.220 So then how does

01:33:40.080 Hold on, let me finish

01:33:40.880 because it's

01:33:41.620 there's no

01:33:42.560 there's not any individual

01:33:44.080 who's the victim, right?

01:33:45.260 Agreed

01:33:45.440 So if there is

01:33:46.280 like if you get killed

01:33:47.080 and you have like

01:33:47.460 a private security

01:33:48.060 they're going to

01:33:48.460 track down your killer

01:33:49.160 but this is something

01:33:50.020 that's a societal issue

01:33:50.960 so it has to be

01:33:51.680 handled societally

01:33:52.400 So if you have a system

01:33:53.760 where law enforcement

01:33:55.240 is privatized

01:33:56.040 everybody

01:33:57.240 or I should say

01:33:58.200 in the majority

01:33:58.780 of the country

01:33:59.320 most people are like

01:33:59.900 we all agree

01:34:00.480 these people shouldn't be here

01:34:01.400 unfortunately

01:34:02.080 there's no mechanism

01:34:03.000 by which

01:34:03.300 I don't think

01:34:04.260 I'm going to disagree

01:34:05.180 with you slightly

01:34:05.640 There's something called

01:34:06.960 revealed preferences, right?

01:34:08.240 So people might say

01:34:09.260 you know

01:34:09.840 I'm for this issue

01:34:11.420 but as soon as they see

01:34:12.620 that footage on TV

01:34:13.520 all of a sudden

01:34:14.120 they're against it

01:34:14.740 so people speak

01:34:15.420 out of both minds

01:34:16.140 on many issues

01:34:16.840 so ostensibly

01:34:18.020 people are against

01:34:18.840 deporting illegal immigrants

01:34:19.740 but when they see

01:34:20.520 that grandma on TV

01:34:21.320 all of a sudden

01:34:21.760 no, no, no, no

01:34:22.300 Okay, so in this

01:34:23.020 hypothetical scenario

01:34:23.980 where everybody agrees

01:34:25.700 people who enter here

01:34:26.960 illegally

01:34:27.400 or in violation

01:34:28.520 of the will

01:34:29.200 of the market

01:34:30.180 and the community

01:34:31.020 we want them removed

01:34:32.520 it doesn't sound

01:34:34.140 like you can do it

01:34:34.780 Well, it's also

01:34:36.520 that there wouldn't

01:34:37.020 really be a problem

01:34:37.780 It doesn't matter

01:34:38.780 if there's a problem

01:34:39.300 it matters

01:34:39.540 like we're all here

01:34:41.160 right now

01:34:41.420 and we're like

01:34:41.700 hey, we got to

01:34:42.140 throw this guy out

01:34:42.720 but no one can do it

01:34:43.920 this guy's here

01:34:44.960 heckling

01:34:45.240 I didn't say no one

01:34:45.640 could do it

01:34:46.100 Right now

01:34:47.380 who's the customer

01:34:48.880 who pays for it

01:34:49.580 If you want to get

01:34:50.820 somebody out of this place

01:34:51.760 anyone can do it

01:34:52.600 So in this system

01:34:54.420 then it would just be

01:34:55.140 incumbent upon

01:34:55.680 citizenry to be like

01:34:57.360 we're going to go out

01:34:58.140 and we're going to grab

01:34:59.040 people and remove them

01:34:59.880 But I don't think

01:35:01.100 I don't think there'll be

01:35:01.360 that many people

01:35:01.960 to remove

01:35:02.500 That's not the argument

01:35:03.120 That's not the question

01:35:03.680 Can I finish?

01:35:04.400 No, because you're changing

01:35:05.420 Amber Duke

01:35:06.100 Come on down

01:35:06.700 Amber Duke

01:35:07.280 The question I have is

01:35:08.740 right now

01:35:09.700 the perception is

01:35:10.900 illegal immigrants

01:35:11.640 shouldn't be here

01:35:12.580 That's not the perception

01:35:14.540 Okay, a hypothetical scenario

01:35:16.720 where people don't want

01:35:17.800 illegal immigrants here

01:35:18.820 How do you enforce it

01:35:20.160 if there's no customer base?

01:35:21.620 There can be no private solution

01:35:22.840 in that regard

01:35:23.300 They took our jobs

01:35:24.480 A bunch of vigilantes

01:35:26.380 There's different kinds

01:35:28.320 of illegal immigrants

01:35:29.120 So these kind of questions

01:35:30.400 conflate different things

01:35:31.680 Right?

01:35:32.260 So it does matter

01:35:33.580 because people are

01:35:34.480 certainly willing

01:35:35.220 to put resources

01:35:35.960 to someone who's

01:35:37.040 a member of a gang

01:35:37.820 but they might

01:35:38.960 ostensibly before

01:35:40.040 get rid of that grandma

01:35:41.080 But let me finish

01:35:43.200 I've asked you

01:35:44.620 a very specific question

01:35:45.460 you will not answer

01:35:46.380 Correct, I won't

01:35:47.360 You won't

01:35:47.960 So I guess I win the debate

01:35:49.340 You win the debate

01:35:49.980 Tim wins the debate

01:35:50.860 Give it up for Tim Poole

01:35:52.120 Alright guys

01:35:54.040 Frequent Tim Cask

01:35:56.000 Yes, the one

01:35:56.940 and the only Amber Duke

01:35:57.640 and I wanted Amber

01:35:58.280 to come up here

01:35:58.760 because Rich

01:35:59.400 one thing we can admit

01:36:00.380 like women cops suck

01:36:02.140 right?

01:36:02.520 You can admit that

01:36:03.460 I called for eliminating

01:36:05.560 female cops this week

01:36:06.700 And Colter calls them

01:36:08.080 girl cops

01:36:08.580 which is appropriately

01:36:09.560 demeaning

01:36:09.880 Lady cops

01:36:10.560 Yeah, lady cops

01:36:11.560 It's always a woman

01:36:12.260 that'll always take

01:36:13.080 another woman down

01:36:14.000 Or jealous bitches

01:36:16.080 She's got authority

01:36:17.320 over me?

01:36:18.500 Was that your question Amber?

01:36:20.320 No, my question is

01:36:21.900 on the point about

01:36:22.780 the good cops

01:36:23.980 who follow orders

01:36:24.560 being the problem

01:36:25.200 more so than the politicians

01:36:26.480 No, more so than the bad cops

01:36:28.160 Well, more so than the bad cops

01:36:29.840 Yes, not more so

01:36:30.640 than the politicians

01:36:31.160 please

01:36:31.540 Okay, fair

01:36:32.080 Yeah, because I mean

01:36:33.060 I guess my point then

01:36:34.180 rather than my question

01:36:35.040 would be

01:36:35.560 that politicians

01:36:36.800 and the elected officials

01:36:38.200 who make the laws

01:36:39.480 or the DAs

01:36:40.520 who decide to prosecute

01:36:42.040 are the much bigger problem

01:36:43.640 because

01:36:44.020 if you use the analogy

01:36:45.760 of the deep state

01:36:46.800 right?

01:36:47.140 Yeah, I agree with you

01:36:48.060 Right?

01:36:48.380 The issue is that

01:36:49.360 we would say

01:36:50.680 people who are

01:36:51.760 unelected bureaucrats

01:36:52.720 who don't follow

01:36:53.820 what the Trump administration

01:36:55.020 wants to do

01:36:55.620 for example

01:36:56.140 are the problem

01:36:57.400 and the people

01:36:59.140 who would follow

01:37:01.600 what the Trump administration

01:37:02.360 wants to do

01:37:03.000 are the ones

01:37:04.020 who are the good ones

01:37:04.940 but for some reason

01:37:05.840 in your opinion

01:37:06.520 when we elect politicians

01:37:08.780 or we elect DAs

01:37:10.980 suddenly the cops

01:37:12.160 who follow

01:37:12.900 what the people elected

01:37:14.220 to do

01:37:15.260 are the issue

01:37:16.080 No, they're part of the issue

01:37:17.700 So as I said earlier

01:37:19.140 if I hire Tim

01:37:20.080 to kill Alex

01:37:20.860 we're both at blame

01:37:21.940 But I'm saying

01:37:23.120 the majority of people

01:37:24.380 elected a DA

01:37:25.280 I don't care

01:37:25.420 the majority is of no relevance

01:37:26.940 Our constitution

01:37:27.700 So but if the majority

01:37:29.660 elect the president

01:37:30.440 and then the unelected bureaucrats

01:37:31.880 don't follow

01:37:32.380 what the president did

01:37:33.220 then that's fine then

01:37:34.120 I would have been very happy

01:37:35.160 if the unelected bureaucrats

01:37:36.340 defied Biden

01:37:36.980 for example

01:37:37.720 Second of all

01:37:38.820 by design

01:37:39.700 the people do not elect

01:37:40.800 the president

01:37:41.180 we have an electoral college

01:37:42.120 because the founding fathers

01:37:43.480 were very much scared

01:37:44.760 that voters would have

01:37:45.960 too much power

01:37:46.580 so they elect electors

01:37:48.000 and electors elect the president

01:37:49.120 and this might be a minor issue

01:37:50.600 in your opinion

01:37:51.520 or other opinion

01:37:52.020 or others

01:37:52.680 but the popular vote

01:37:53.860 is not the determining factor

01:37:55.440 or else we would have

01:37:56.220 President Hillary

01:37:56.760 which I'm sure you wouldn't like

01:37:57.680 So what the majority want

01:37:59.900 first of all

01:38:00.340 the majority of voters

01:38:01.240 is of no relevance

01:38:02.280 when it comes to my rights

01:38:03.240 Freedom means

01:38:04.080 I do what you want

01:38:04.900 not what you want

01:38:05.660 or what a majority of people want

01:38:07.080 I punched a female cop once

01:38:09.600 That's awesome

01:38:10.420 You know

01:38:11.960 I was going to say

01:38:12.960 you looked like it

01:38:13.760 but I didn't want to be rude

01:38:14.940 Was she hot?

01:38:16.940 Yeah she was

01:38:17.600 Yeah she's pretty hot

01:38:18.440 She's not hot anymore

01:38:19.860 It wasn't a great punch

01:38:22.260 I was really drunk

01:38:23.220 Is that why you escaped Australia?

01:38:25.520 Let me finish

01:38:26.280 I don't want to

01:38:26.960 I'm sorry

01:38:27.600 I'm just pretending to be an asshole

01:38:29.360 No I was in an alley

01:38:30.640 Mission accomplished

01:38:31.480 I was in an alleyway

01:38:32.940 in a street fight

01:38:33.940 and somebody

01:38:34.640 I had hair

01:38:35.280 God damn it

01:38:36.000 I hate the fucking past

01:38:37.020 but I

01:38:37.660 Somebody pulled my hair

01:38:39.540 and I spun around

01:38:40.200 and punched him

01:38:40.800 and it was a female police officer

01:38:42.380 Oh Jesus

01:38:42.580 And when she hit the deck

01:38:44.400 I was like

01:38:44.800 Oh fuck

01:38:45.540 because I didn't mean it

01:38:46.520 You know what I mean

01:38:46.940 If I had known

01:38:48.580 I would not have thrown that punch

01:38:49.900 But then

01:38:50.760 I ran away

01:38:52.040 because

01:38:52.440 I got scared

01:38:53.380 I assaulted a police officer

01:38:54.840 And I hate

01:38:56.120 I hate admitting this

01:38:57.380 but she

01:38:58.000 She caught me

01:38:59.280 She outran me

01:39:00.740 I was drunk

01:39:01.320 She deserved to be there

01:39:04.960 Yeah

01:39:05.420 Oh fuck

01:39:05.760 I had

01:39:06.060 There's way more

01:39:07.440 that came after that

01:39:08.260 I got punished pretty bad

01:39:09.440 She tripped me over

01:39:10.280 I fell on the ground

01:39:11.140 Then she got me up

01:39:12.240 against the wall

01:39:12.800 and she put handcuffs

01:39:13.840 my hands above my head

01:39:15.720 and she kneed me in the butt

01:39:16.920 and it made my balls

01:39:18.100 hit the wall

01:39:18.760 Yeah

01:39:19.040 And then when my balls

01:39:20.580 hit the wall

01:39:21.120 it made me lean forward

01:39:22.160 and headbutt the wall

01:39:23.080 So it was a fucking sweet combo

01:39:25.160 that she gave me

01:39:26.000 And then when I went to jail

01:39:28.860 all the other police

01:39:31.020 they put handcuffs

01:39:32.040 around my

01:39:32.820 the back of my

01:39:33.900 hamstrings

01:39:34.940 So I was on my face

01:39:36.460 and on my knees

01:39:37.040 on the ground

01:39:37.560 and then she beat me up

01:39:39.100 with a baton

01:39:39.760 for a while

01:39:40.480 You said it was

01:39:42.620 You said it was a bad punch

01:39:43.960 right?

01:39:44.920 If they were a male cop

01:39:45.740 they wouldn't have hit the deck

01:39:46.600 You got the wrong guy

01:39:48.740 Anyway

01:39:49.400 But then

01:39:51.300 But then they let me out

01:39:53.080 the next day

01:39:54.060 because I was a foreigner

01:39:55.040 or whatever

01:39:55.500 and they didn't like

01:39:56.260 This is in America?

01:39:57.600 Yeah

01:39:58.060 San Diego

01:39:58.860 Fucking 1992

01:40:00.340 Holy shit

01:40:01.640 I'm fucking 53

01:40:02.700 I think it was 92 actually

01:40:04.400 But then I remember

01:40:06.880 they

01:40:07.220 with no driving

01:40:08.400 no car

01:40:09.000 no tax

01:40:09.880 no money

01:40:10.360 so we walked back

01:40:11.540 to Mission Beach

01:40:12.460 and I

01:40:13.220 a homeless guy

01:40:14.400 pissed himself

01:40:15.160 in the cell

01:40:16.280 so I slept in his piss

01:40:17.960 so then when I was

01:40:19.260 walking back down

01:40:19.960 the freeway

01:40:20.540 his pee

01:40:21.220 was in between my legs

01:40:22.260 and I got

01:40:22.640 crazy chafed

01:40:23.680 so I started walking

01:40:24.480 like a crab

01:40:25.160 for like

01:40:25.640 five miles

01:40:26.760 I was walking sideways

01:40:27.740 I never hit another

01:40:29.680 woman ever again

01:40:30.880 There you go

01:40:32.320 Alright

01:40:33.280 Armand Gupta

01:40:34.560 come on down

01:40:35.440 come up to the mic

01:40:36.360 where's Armand Gupta

01:40:37.680 Sanjay's son

01:40:39.240 is here

01:40:39.820 and we're not gonna give

01:40:42.080 you asshole

01:40:43.380 Alright

01:40:46.340 come on

01:40:47.160 That was a good story

01:40:48.000 of a woman holding her own

01:40:49.120 and fucking up a little bit

01:40:50.220 I was impressed man

01:40:51.340 I would have been

01:40:52.020 I probably would have

01:40:53.100 I was into it

01:40:53.620 I was into it

01:40:53.640 marry me

01:40:54.120 I mean

01:40:55.220 she didn't know

01:40:56.360 she would have said no

01:40:57.320 I was talking

01:40:57.820 to me

01:40:58.580 Armand

01:40:59.100 I got you

01:41:00.100 I can't say shit

01:41:00.920 with his glasses

01:41:01.400 I have a question

01:41:02.820 so do you think

01:41:04.160 that if you had

01:41:04.880 private security forces

01:41:06.240 or private police forces

01:41:07.300 would those be

01:41:07.940 non-human

01:41:08.520 or human as well

01:41:09.720 we asked this already

01:41:10.780 but

01:41:11.060 there we asked about cyborgs

01:41:12.220 I'm asking

01:41:12.880 if we asked it

01:41:13.980 let's keep going

01:41:14.960 would they be human

01:41:16.260 I

01:41:17.080 depend on the market

01:41:18.460 of course

01:41:19.120 the Indian guy

01:41:19.720 wants to talk about AI

01:41:20.640 dude

01:41:21.060 what is your deal

01:41:21.860 like this isn't

01:41:22.600 chat GBT session

01:41:23.820 my challenge with your argument

01:41:24.980 is mainly that

01:41:25.740 you're saying that

01:41:26.480 because humans can

01:41:27.460 do evil things

01:41:28.620 that police can do

01:41:30.120 evil things

01:41:30.720 but even in a

01:41:31.820 privatized world

01:41:32.660 would not

01:41:33.240 it still be

01:41:34.020 humans that are

01:41:34.860 doing evil things

01:41:35.720 I think what you're

01:41:38.000 referring to

01:41:38.580 what

01:41:38.760 okay

01:41:40.660 wait

01:41:41.580 that's Richie Jackson

01:41:42.900 I think what you're

01:41:43.860 referring to

01:41:44.460 is my point being

01:41:45.480 that when you

01:41:46.000 become a cop

01:41:46.800 you give up

01:41:47.520 your conscience

01:41:48.340 because you're there

01:41:49.520 to obey the orders

01:41:50.460 of sociopaths above you

01:41:51.840 do you think

01:41:52.380 do you think contracts

01:41:53.620 should be

01:41:54.320 can I finish

01:41:55.000 no

01:41:55.420 can he finish

01:41:56.080 can he finish

01:41:57.480 no no no

01:41:58.320 he said he would be

01:41:59.180 unreasonable

01:41:59.600 so just because you

01:42:01.040 talk a lot

01:42:01.540 and that's okay

01:42:02.080 but I think some of

01:42:03.000 these questions

01:42:03.420 can be answered

01:42:03.900 a little shortly

01:42:04.500 do you think

01:42:05.580 that I do everything

01:42:06.220 shortly

01:42:06.560 I'm 411

01:42:07.180 if two people

01:42:08.160 if two people

01:42:10.080 my mom's also 411

01:42:11.220 if I am your mom

01:42:13.040 and let me tell you

01:42:15.260 I am not proud

01:42:16.620 I had that knitting

01:42:19.840 meal up there

01:42:20.420 for weeks

01:42:21.020 if two people

01:42:21.740 sign a contract

01:42:22.720 and in that contract

01:42:25.220 they sign away

01:42:26.100 some of their own

01:42:27.220 agency

01:42:27.640 to some other

01:42:28.880 organization

01:42:29.420 would that not be

01:42:30.180 the same thing

01:42:30.860 as police officers

01:42:31.740 joining

01:42:32.260 of the police force

01:42:33.940 signing away

01:42:34.560 some of their agency

01:42:35.040 that's a great question

01:42:35.920 I'll answer your question

01:42:36.760 the point is

01:42:37.480 with any contract

01:42:39.020 including the

01:42:39.680 police employment

01:42:40.840 you can walk

01:42:42.020 because as long

01:42:45.960 as you're staying there

01:42:46.880 and saying

01:42:47.380 I'm going to turn

01:42:48.360 off my conscience

01:42:49.120 and do whatever

01:42:50.020 this person tells

01:42:50.700 you right or wrong

01:42:51.440 that is something

01:42:52.500 that makes you

01:42:53.100 on some level

01:42:53.800 immoral

01:42:54.480 but that's not true

01:42:55.820 let's say that

01:42:57.360 what emerges

01:42:58.200 in this private market

01:42:58.940 system is they say

01:42:59.880 listen

01:43:00.360 we can't sustain

01:43:01.800 a business

01:43:02.340 off of at will

01:43:03.260 contracts

01:43:03.760 so we require

01:43:04.400 a one year commitment

01:43:05.520 sure

01:43:05.840 but any contract

01:43:07.080 is going to have

01:43:07.400 some kind of

01:43:07.800 consequence

01:43:08.260 for you to walk

01:43:08.900 the military

01:43:10.340 for example

01:43:10.900 you can't really

01:43:11.340 walk

01:43:11.520 you go to jail

01:43:12.000 so at a certain point

01:43:13.440 everyone

01:43:13.900 who has a conscience

01:43:14.960 like okay

01:43:15.480 go out and shoot

01:43:16.280 those kids in the head

01:43:17.140 fuck it

01:43:17.960 I'll take the fine

01:43:18.660 how many cops

01:43:20.080 are going out there

01:43:20.460 and just randomly

01:43:20.900 shooting people in the head

01:43:21.720 it's not random

01:43:22.360 they're following orders

01:43:22.980 to do so

01:43:23.400 the book called

01:43:23.880 ordinary

01:43:24.160 give me an example

01:43:24.720 of us following orders

01:43:25.680 to shoot somebody

01:43:26.140 every female cop

01:43:27.180 hold on

01:43:27.620 every female cop

01:43:28.380 the book is called

01:43:29.080 Ordinary Men

01:43:29.900 and then they're

01:43:30.800 rounding

01:43:31.080 about World War II

01:43:31.860 America

01:43:32.320 we're in America

01:43:33.060 it could never happen here

01:43:34.300 because cops aren't

01:43:34.860 human beings

01:43:35.240 well then give me an example

01:43:36.000 on the point about

01:43:36.740 private

01:43:37.260 on the point about

01:43:38.300 private security

01:43:39.060 potentially replacing cops

01:43:40.960 we

01:43:41.500 I think all agreed

01:43:42.700 that there's a problem

01:43:43.720 with tickets

01:43:45.060 for example

01:43:45.700 when you're driving

01:43:46.540 erratically

01:43:47.160 disproportionately affecting

01:43:49.040 lower income people

01:43:50.140 would a private security

01:43:51.680 force not disproportionately

01:43:52.860 impact lower income

01:43:54.580 people because

01:43:55.180 they wouldn't have

01:43:56.000 the funds to hire

01:43:56.800 the best security

01:43:57.580 I'm going to answer

01:43:58.880 his question earlier

01:43:59.700 because I think

01:44:00.140 that's much more

01:44:00.600 and I'll get to yours

01:44:01.900 yes in America

01:44:04.200 there have not been

01:44:05.140 examples of cops

01:44:06.320 rounding up

01:44:06.880 and killing people

01:44:08.000 thank God

01:44:08.940 killing kids

01:44:09.600 my point being

01:44:10.640 I don't think

01:44:11.380 that the Polish mind

01:44:12.260 or the German mind

01:44:13.160 or any other country's mind

01:44:14.660 is that radically different

01:44:16.440 from God help us

01:44:17.480 from how American

01:44:18.880 people operate

01:44:20.020 number one

01:44:20.440 but can you show

01:44:21.440 that having a private

01:44:22.680 police force

01:44:23.420 would be somehow

01:44:24.040 better than what we have

01:44:24.920 currently

01:44:25.320 because all you've done

01:44:26.580 is criticize

01:44:27.180 the police that we have

01:44:28.360 in this country

01:44:28.920 you haven't shown

01:44:30.080 at all

01:44:30.700 that a private police force

01:44:32.160 would somehow be better

01:44:33.100 do you have an example

01:44:34.200 do you have any data

01:44:34.920 what do you think

01:44:35.640 he did say

01:44:36.840 that we were human

01:44:37.620 as I opened

01:44:39.820 this entire debate

01:44:41.340 I'm not here

01:44:42.680 to advocate for

01:44:44.060 or change people's minds

01:44:45.040 about private police

01:44:46.000 I'm just hoping

01:44:47.360 you all understand

01:44:48.220 that when you talk

01:44:49.020 to the police

01:44:49.540 it is a mistake

01:44:50.420 and they are not there

01:44:51.600 to help you

01:44:52.100 they are there

01:44:52.520 to hurt you

01:44:53.020 as for a private

01:44:54.020 police force

01:44:54.700 we can see this

01:44:55.680 very easily

01:44:56.360 in other circumstances

01:44:57.440 because you're going

01:44:58.160 to have much more

01:44:59.100 accountability

01:44:59.660 it is much

01:45:00.680 thank you Richard

01:45:04.540 all right Armand

01:45:07.220 thank you

01:45:07.920 make sure to send him

01:45:09.180 all the bobs

01:45:09.800 and vagine

01:45:10.220 he can handle

01:45:10.820 now next one

01:45:11.620 Shane Wilder

01:45:13.720 is that it

01:45:14.540 Shane

01:45:15.140 I know you're out there

01:45:17.080 Shane

01:45:17.420 come on

01:45:18.040 let's go Shane

01:45:20.120 we're going to get this

01:45:21.060 on Twitter ASAP

01:45:22.140 alright

01:45:24.920 there we go

01:45:26.140 what do you got for us

01:45:27.080 and first

01:45:29.680 I need to correct you

01:45:30.640 it's Attorney

01:45:31.440 Mean General

01:45:32.180 Shane H. Wilder

01:45:33.260 motherfucker

01:45:34.040 wait

01:45:35.420 do you want me

01:45:36.520 to come up here

01:45:36.880 and kick your ass

01:45:37.800 dude

01:45:38.040 I mean what are you

01:45:38.600 I mean you can try

01:45:40.760 oh

01:45:41.500 sounds like he'll do it

01:45:43.500 fuck

01:45:44.200 okay what do you got for us

01:45:45.320 General Shane

01:45:47.060 J. Wilder

01:45:48.140 whatever the fuck

01:45:48.880 where the fuck

01:45:49.720 did you get Shane

01:45:50.220 Meme Lord

01:45:50.880 whatever dude

01:45:51.860 King Queen

01:45:52.560 Virgin

01:45:53.560 is what you should

01:45:54.260 call yourself

01:45:54.760 how you doing Shane

01:45:56.740 we can all agree

01:45:58.940 that there are

01:45:59.840 good and bad police

01:46:01.460 and a lot of us

01:46:02.940 have seen both

01:46:03.820 but is the answer

01:46:06.160 to do away with police

01:46:08.120 in favor of private security

01:46:10.080 or rework the police system

01:46:13.020 for example

01:46:14.200 make it easier

01:46:15.640 to fire a cop

01:46:17.120 for not doing their job

01:46:18.500 which in the end

01:46:21.640 is to uphold

01:46:22.940 and protect the constitution

01:46:24.400 because if police are human

01:46:27.600 then so are private security

01:46:30.500 if some cop

01:46:32.460 can be a feckless cunt

01:46:33.900 what is stopping

01:46:35.640 private security guard

01:46:38.140 that's a great question

01:46:39.380 Kermit the Frog

01:46:40.020 thank you

01:46:40.500 and he's right though

01:46:41.920 that's a great question

01:46:43.040 I absolutely agree

01:46:44.660 with that question

01:46:45.260 it's a great question

01:46:46.020 you're going to always have

01:46:49.120 murderers

01:46:49.940 rapists

01:46:50.700 robbers

01:46:51.280 burglars

01:46:51.780 anyone who argues

01:46:52.700 otherwise

01:46:53.140 is talking out of his ass

01:46:54.400 there's always going to be

01:46:55.360 evil people

01:46:55.940 or even crazy people

01:46:57.040 point is

01:46:57.880 are you going to have

01:46:59.280 a system

01:46:59.840 where there's accountability

01:47:01.100 and when you have

01:47:02.760 any monopoly

01:47:03.440 on any product or service

01:47:05.380 the people who are

01:47:06.860 delivering that product or service

01:47:08.280 are not going to be

01:47:10.880 held accountable

01:47:11.580 so I would

01:47:12.640 I would also be happy

01:47:13.780 what you said

01:47:14.400 if they're even within

01:47:15.460 the system that we have

01:47:16.640 there'll be more accountability

01:47:17.820 for the cops that exist

01:47:19.140 okay

01:47:22.660 who is the retard

01:47:23.620 talking like that

01:47:24.380 come up

01:47:24.880 oh that is Richie

01:47:25.720 Richie you want to say

01:47:26.880 say something

01:47:27.160 there's a microphone

01:47:27.840 so we can hear you

01:47:28.720 so the people that

01:47:29.240 have watched this later

01:47:29.960 can actually hear it

01:47:30.840 instead of just

01:47:31.480 it'll get louder though

01:47:35.560 alright Richie

01:47:38.940 thank you

01:47:39.340 nobody can hear you

01:47:40.040 we can't hear you

01:47:42.380 there's no microphone

01:47:43.440 to pick up your audio

01:47:44.500 so it's a waste of time

01:47:46.420 okay now

01:47:47.160 alright Shane

01:47:48.300 thank you

01:47:48.740 Rick Hodgson

01:47:49.580 is Rick Hodgson here

01:47:50.780 Rick

01:47:52.060 is Rick here

01:47:52.760 alright Rick

01:47:54.500 I see his ass right there

01:47:55.660 real cute

01:47:57.140 he's not here

01:47:57.760 there's a lot of

01:47:58.520 Richards in this room

01:47:59.400 I can feel it

01:48:00.020 there's a lot of

01:48:00.720 dicks and Ricks

01:48:01.720 alright Rick

01:48:02.300 what do you got for us

01:48:03.260 I want to say

01:48:05.500 happy 19th anniversary

01:48:06.680 to my wife Kate

01:48:07.580 hell yeah

01:48:08.420 and kind of think

01:48:15.240 the discussion of

01:48:16.500 there not being

01:48:18.020 a whole lot of humans

01:48:18.760 in the police force

01:48:19.800 coming up here

01:48:20.580 pretty soon

01:48:21.160 is something that

01:48:21.980 we need to start

01:48:23.060 thinking about

01:48:23.640 what

01:48:24.720 he needs robots

01:48:25.580 dude if those robots

01:48:26.460 are like those

01:48:27.120 postmate on wheel things

01:48:28.520 I will fuck that cop up

01:48:30.000 son

01:48:30.280 you said that

01:48:32.100 about the lady cop

01:48:32.860 that's not what happened

01:48:33.620 I'm thinking more

01:48:35.080 fuck you man

01:48:35.860 Robocop

01:48:37.180 I'll start

01:48:37.640 I'll start a scooter gang

01:48:38.560 with you any day

01:48:39.420 man you really are gay

01:48:41.700 huh

01:48:41.960 alright alright

01:48:43.620 go sit down

01:48:44.160 let's try to get through

01:48:44.760 some names

01:48:45.100 we only got 10 minutes

01:48:45.760 I have Caleb Wright

01:48:46.660 Caleb Wright

01:48:47.300 come on down

01:48:47.940 where's Caleb Wright

01:48:48.840 you here

01:48:49.960 why are scooters gay

01:48:51.260 you can see the cops

01:48:52.520 on like those

01:48:52.980 two wheeler like things

01:48:54.100 that was gay

01:48:54.740 segways

01:48:55.420 wait there was cops

01:48:56.320 on two wheeler things

01:48:57.060 segways

01:48:57.800 segways

01:48:58.340 you ever see the cops

01:48:58.980 on segways

01:48:59.540 I was in the movie

01:49:00.360 Paul Malkop

01:49:01.520 I'm aware

01:49:02.080 subtle flex

01:49:03.300 oh wow

01:49:04.240 that's so cool

01:49:04.860 did you get

01:49:05.780 that's my fucking

01:49:08.980 claim to fame now

01:49:09.860 I just realized

01:49:10.540 that's awesome

01:49:11.180 alright

01:49:12.560 what do you got

01:49:13.100 for us Caleb

01:49:13.660 so

01:49:14.980 my main thing

01:49:16.500 is about

01:49:17.320 to Michael Malice

01:49:18.660 on

01:49:19.260 you are

01:49:20.820 completely against

01:49:21.680 cops

01:49:22.240 no

01:49:22.620 correct

01:49:22.980 he just thinks

01:49:23.980 that we're human

01:49:24.700 and that we'll fail

01:49:25.820 and therefore

01:49:26.340 we should go away

01:49:27.180 and they'll enforce

01:49:28.400 you know

01:49:28.840 whatever order

01:49:29.360 they're told

01:49:29.800 even if it's

01:49:30.500 immoral

01:49:30.920 unlike a robot

01:49:31.780 who won't do

01:49:32.480 exactly what

01:49:33.020 it's programmed

01:49:33.520 it's amazing

01:49:34.580 how freely

01:49:35.240 you are putting

01:49:35.920 words in my mouth

01:49:36.680 and again

01:49:37.300 I don't care

01:49:38.000 about this debate

01:49:38.740 but keep this in mind

01:49:39.640 if you're ever

01:49:40.060 talking to a cop

01:49:40.840 or faced with a crime

01:49:41.920 that's all I want

01:49:43.900 you all to take

01:49:44.280 away from tonight

01:49:44.920 go ahead

01:49:45.740 but just as

01:49:47.280 cops are still

01:49:48.800 human

01:49:49.200 humans are also

01:49:50.640 cops

01:49:51.100 these are people

01:49:51.880 who have gone

01:49:52.620 through trainings

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01:51:02.040 say the

01:51:02.400 trainings haven't

01:51:03.100 been updated

01:51:03.580 that's a really

01:51:04.360 good point

01:51:04.880 I don't think

01:51:05.820 that's true

01:51:06.280 you said they

01:51:06.680 have been

01:51:07.020 you said

01:51:07.560 have been

01:51:08.100 well if they

01:51:08.780 have been

01:51:09.160 updated they're

01:51:09.760 not doing the

01:51:10.360 training

01:51:10.660 they're not

01:51:11.180 doing the

01:51:11.360 trainings properly

01:51:12.120 I think they

01:51:12.980 are doing good

01:51:13.420 honestly I think

01:51:14.240 I'm going to

01:51:14.880 take the cop

01:51:15.300 side of this

01:51:15.700 one if you

01:51:16.020 watch the

01:51:16.320 police body cam

01:51:16.940 footage a lot

01:51:17.520 of times even

01:51:18.500 though in any

01:51:19.280 other situation

01:51:19.840 they'd be knocking

01:51:20.540 the person out

01:51:21.160 they're de-escalating

01:51:22.180 and they're

01:51:22.540 talking to

01:51:22.900 someone who's

01:51:23.200 complete trash

01:51:23.760 you see it

01:51:25.860 I want to

01:51:26.300 address this to

01:51:27.740 rich and when

01:51:28.680 that guy there

01:51:29.720 was a guy who

01:51:30.080 went to midtown

01:51:30.600 Manhattan and

01:51:31.520 shot up his

01:51:32.380 office place

01:51:33.420 when he came

01:51:34.840 downstairs NYC

01:51:36.640 cops started

01:51:37.800 shooting wildly

01:51:38.660 at him and they

01:51:39.520 missed and hit

01:51:40.060 seven bystanders

01:51:40.920 and the story

01:51:42.080 that emerged was

01:51:42.760 that the officers

01:51:43.800 in New York were

01:51:44.840 getting the bare

01:51:45.500 minimum training

01:51:46.320 because the city

01:51:46.980 had decided if

01:51:48.140 the cost of

01:51:48.800 lawsuits are lower

01:51:50.200 than the cost

01:51:50.760 of training

01:51:51.220 they would

01:51:51.860 prefer the

01:51:52.240 lawsuits instead

01:51:52.920 alright so

01:51:54.060 I'll give you

01:51:54.500 some real talk

01:51:55.160 here about

01:51:55.600 police range

01:51:56.460 shooting

01:51:56.680 since I was

01:51:57.040 a range

01:51:57.980 officer for

01:51:58.560 my department

01:51:59.100 so one

01:52:01.660 NYPD has

01:52:02.860 different Glock

01:52:03.840 setups than

01:52:04.320 everybody else

01:52:04.820 they have a

01:52:05.580 10 plus pound

01:52:06.300 trigger addition

01:52:07.040 so normally

01:52:08.040 a Glock is

01:52:08.700 like 7 to 5

01:52:09.520 pound trigger

01:52:10.000 pull

01:52:10.240 they have one

01:52:11.040 so it adds

01:52:11.560 an additional

01:52:11.960 5 pounds

01:52:12.720 if you do

01:52:13.460 that to

01:52:13.800 somebody

01:52:14.200 which most

01:52:14.820 cops are

01:52:15.460 someone that

01:52:16.320 gets one

01:52:17.400 day of training

01:52:18.220 that shoots

01:52:18.960 their

01:52:19.500 whatever it is

01:52:21.540 qualification

01:52:22.080 for their

01:52:22.660 department

01:52:23.140 that's not

01:52:23.900 training

01:52:24.260 that's just

01:52:25.180 qualification

01:52:25.800 so you get

01:52:26.380 officers that

01:52:26.840 don't train

01:52:27.360 that only do

01:52:28.200 qualification

01:52:28.680 now they have

01:52:29.820 a heavier

01:52:30.280 trigger squeeze

01:52:31.040 and for everybody

01:52:31.920 that knows

01:52:32.480 anything about

01:52:33.100 guns

01:52:33.560 the heavier

01:52:34.360 trigger squeeze

01:52:35.020 is on a pistol

01:52:35.740 the firmer you

01:52:36.680 have to grip it

01:52:37.440 right

01:52:38.020 so you've got

01:52:38.620 you're sitting

01:52:38.980 there pulling

01:52:39.400 back 10

01:52:40.100 15 pounds

01:52:41.020 and you've

01:52:41.740 got a weak

01:52:42.160 wrist and low

01:52:43.340 or no training

01:52:44.200 other than

01:52:44.660 qualification

01:52:45.100 you're either

01:52:46.020 going to push

01:52:46.600 the pistol

01:52:47.120 to the left

01:52:47.680 or pull it

01:52:48.580 to the right

01:52:49.120 if you've had

01:52:49.680 one day

01:52:50.180 a training

01:52:50.620 it doesn't matter

01:52:51.040 what kind

01:52:51.460 of gun

01:52:51.700 you've got

01:52:52.000 you're not

01:52:52.240 going to hit

01:52:52.500 the shot

01:52:52.840 with a handgun

01:52:53.640 correct

01:52:53.940 you've got to

01:52:54.440 be close

01:52:54.960 so what

01:52:58.640 a lot of

01:52:59.340 not a lot

01:53:00.460 of

01:53:00.680 NYC

01:53:02.100 used to be

01:53:03.060 the pinnacle

01:53:03.760 of police

01:53:04.340 training

01:53:04.760 every department

01:53:05.900 would look at

01:53:06.440 them because

01:53:06.780 they're the

01:53:07.020 largest city

01:53:07.480 in the states

01:53:08.020 and they've

01:53:08.280 got the

01:53:08.460 largest department

01:53:09.320 like 40 or

01:53:09.920 70,000

01:53:10.480 officers

01:53:11.260 and they would

01:53:11.980 say what

01:53:12.460 are they doing

01:53:12.940 right

01:53:13.260 and let's

01:53:13.720 do it

01:53:14.160 and one of

01:53:14.920 the things

01:53:15.160 that they

01:53:15.420 see from

01:53:15.800 New York

01:53:16.020 State

01:53:16.360 or New York

01:53:16.800 City

01:53:17.000 and what

01:53:17.560 they're doing

01:53:17.880 wrong

01:53:18.440 is the

01:53:19.080 additional

01:53:19.440 pound

01:53:19.780 on the

01:53:20.000 trigger

01:53:20.240 is their

01:53:21.060 fear

01:53:21.900 I would

01:53:22.260 say

01:53:22.540 or a

01:53:23.000 logical

01:53:23.320 fear

01:53:23.660 of

01:53:24.000 training

01:53:24.920 on a

01:53:25.480 firearm

01:53:25.800 because

01:53:26.060 they

01:53:26.240 don't

01:53:26.440 want

01:53:26.640 them

01:53:26.760 to

01:53:26.880 use

01:53:27.100 it

01:53:27.260 it's

01:53:27.760 almost

01:53:28.000 like

01:53:28.280 an

01:53:28.400 intentional

01:53:28.860 neglect

01:53:29.440 on firearm

01:53:30.100 training

01:53:30.580 so then the

01:53:31.300 officers

01:53:31.780 aren't good

01:53:32.380 at using

01:53:32.720 it

01:53:32.960 therefore

01:53:33.460 they're

01:53:33.740 fearful

01:53:34.100 of using

01:53:35.060 it

01:53:35.300 so now

01:53:35.820 they don't

01:53:36.380 use

01:53:36.680 it

01:53:36.860 and then

01:53:37.580 what

01:53:37.740 happens

01:53:38.180 people

01:53:39.060 that actually

01:53:39.600 need

01:53:39.840 lethal force

01:53:40.460 are either

01:53:40.980 hurt

01:53:41.280 in the

01:53:41.540 crossfire

01:53:42.100 are either

01:53:43.160 not being

01:53:43.980 protected

01:53:44.380 and lose

01:53:44.680 their lives

01:53:45.040 because the

01:53:45.420 individual

01:53:45.800 that's attacking

01:53:46.340 them is not

01:53:46.760 being stopped

01:53:47.240 appropriately

01:53:47.740 and you can

01:53:49.020 go down

01:53:49.260 the list

01:53:49.520 from there

01:53:49.860 well private

01:53:50.500 police

01:53:50.900 must be the

01:53:51.600 answer I

01:53:51.940 guess

01:53:52.220 Matt Parker

01:53:54.280 we only got

01:53:54.720 enough time

01:53:55.500 for about

01:53:55.760 one or two

01:53:56.220 more people

01:53:56.620 so Matt

01:53:57.000 Parker

01:53:57.380 the answer

01:53:58.180 would have

01:53:58.420 been gun

01:53:58.800 proliferation

01:53:59.320 in that

01:53:59.580 building

01:53:59.840 if there

01:54:00.120 are more

01:54:00.320 people

01:54:00.560 in that

01:54:00.720 building

01:54:00.920 got guns

01:54:01.400 or Uvalde

01:54:02.620 these other

01:54:02.980 places

01:54:03.320 in Uvalde

01:54:04.000 the parents

01:54:04.720 were ready

01:54:05.040 to go in

01:54:05.420 there and

01:54:05.640 save their

01:54:05.920 kids

01:54:06.160 and the

01:54:06.360 cops

01:54:06.580 sell them

01:54:06.840 back

01:54:07.140 real quick

01:54:08.400 though

01:54:08.540 do you think

01:54:08.900 there should

01:54:09.220 be

01:54:09.460 if we allow

01:54:10.540 for guns

01:54:10.980 in places

01:54:11.260 like New York

01:54:11.700 should they

01:54:12.000 require bolts

01:54:12.680 to be frangible

01:54:13.520 or something

01:54:14.240 like that

01:54:14.580 what do you

01:54:14.800 mean by

01:54:15.020 frangible

01:54:15.320 frangible

01:54:16.160 bullets are

01:54:18.560 fucking

01:54:18.800 something weird

01:54:19.760 they would

01:54:20.920 break

01:54:21.280 instead of

01:54:21.600 overpenetrating

01:54:22.420 a less deadly

01:54:23.720 bullet

01:54:24.260 they would

01:54:25.720 shatter and

01:54:26.120 hit the wall

01:54:26.540 instead of

01:54:27.020 going through

01:54:27.440 and going

01:54:27.740 to another

01:54:28.060 room

01:54:28.560 I'm not

01:54:29.120 qualified

01:54:29.400 to answer

01:54:29.680 that question

01:54:30.140 what do you

01:54:32.520 got for us

01:54:33.040 I think this

01:54:33.440 might be our

01:54:33.880 last speaker

01:54:34.940 so what do you

01:54:35.420 got for us

01:54:35.860 make it

01:54:36.240 something good

01:54:36.780 and guys

01:54:37.120 thank you

01:54:37.640 to everybody

01:54:38.340 that came

01:54:38.840 up here

01:54:39.180 and thank

01:54:39.600 you guys

01:54:40.000 for coming

01:54:40.420 out here

01:54:40.800 tonight

01:54:41.180 seriously

01:54:41.820 I know

01:54:43.280 Tim appreciates

01:54:44.260 it

01:54:44.580 and a big

01:54:46.020 shout out

01:54:46.380 to the club

01:54:47.000 that you know

01:54:47.540 they got it

01:54:48.240 accidentally

01:54:49.000 canceled

01:54:49.520 but then they

01:54:49.940 brought it

01:54:50.240 back so we

01:54:50.740 love the DC

01:54:51.320 comedy live

01:54:52.040 it was just

01:54:52.420 a misunderstanding

01:54:53.060 but what do

01:54:54.600 you got for us

01:54:55.300 my question

01:54:56.220 I guess would

01:54:56.680 be for Michael

01:54:57.300 so how would

01:54:59.800 you in the

01:55:00.820 instance of having

01:55:01.920 all these private

01:55:02.700 security in place

01:55:04.040 of police

01:55:04.580 how would

01:55:05.480 you handle

01:55:06.080 a large

01:55:07.160 like organized

01:55:08.820 I'm sorry

01:55:09.660 I can't hear you

01:55:10.040 it's not over yet

01:55:11.000 guys shut the

01:55:11.660 fuck up in the

01:55:12.520 back just for

01:55:13.140 five more minutes

01:55:14.340 thank you

01:55:15.900 so how would I

01:55:19.040 handle organized

01:55:19.640 crime right

01:55:20.140 how would that

01:55:20.740 address large

01:55:21.460 organized crime

01:55:22.140 because yeah

01:55:22.620 so one of the

01:55:23.320 big issues that

01:55:24.600 organized crime

01:55:25.280 starts to begin

01:55:26.180 with is black

01:55:26.900 markets right

01:55:27.900 we saw this

01:55:28.500 very quickly

01:55:29.220 in America

01:55:29.760 what happened

01:55:30.340 with the rise

01:55:30.940 of the mafia

01:55:31.360 was prohibition

01:55:32.540 and after a

01:55:33.680 while they

01:55:33.960 started shooting

01:55:34.480 enough cops

01:55:34.960 and the cops

01:55:35.320 were like I'm

01:55:35.620 not enforcing

01:55:36.020 this law

01:55:36.440 and they repealed

01:55:37.240 the law

01:55:37.600 so if you have

01:55:38.480 things like

01:55:39.120 increased

01:55:40.020 you see

01:55:40.780 in Colorado

01:55:41.720 right if you

01:55:42.720 have this kind

01:55:43.320 of gang

01:55:43.780 take over

01:55:44.420 department building

01:55:45.100 and you have

01:55:45.440 a community

01:55:45.820 where everyone's

01:55:46.300 armed

01:55:46.580 everyone has

01:55:47.400 this sense

01:55:47.720 of community

01:55:48.220 very quickly

01:55:49.040 it's going to

01:55:49.820 have to be

01:55:50.140 someone's going

01:55:50.740 to have to be

01:55:51.000 violent at some

01:55:51.480 point

01:55:51.680 right now it's

01:55:52.660 just kind of

01:55:53.020 the cops are

01:55:53.420 going to come

01:55:53.700 in otherwise

01:55:54.500 it would be

01:55:55.580 much harder

01:55:56.180 to come in

01:55:56.520 to begin with

01:55:57.180 but there's no

01:55:58.100 easy anyone who

01:55:58.840 tells you there's

01:55:59.260 an easy answer

01:56:00.000 when you have

01:56:00.680 a large population

01:56:02.100 with weapons

01:56:03.300 who are intent

01:56:04.000 and doing you

01:56:04.380 harm

01:56:04.640 there's no one

01:56:05.400 sense to answer

01:56:05.880 this in any

01:56:06.260 situation

01:56:06.680 so if somebody

01:56:08.080 has to go in

01:56:08.680 there and they

01:56:09.020 have to be

01:56:09.420 violent

01:56:09.760 wouldn't you

01:56:10.440 prefer to be

01:56:11.200 a police officer

01:56:12.140 that's held

01:56:13.220 liable by the

01:56:14.480 community instead

01:56:15.160 of a bunch of

01:56:15.660 individuals that

01:56:16.280 can do it

01:56:16.700 without any

01:56:17.260 sort of use

01:56:17.680 of force

01:56:17.960 training

01:56:18.120 one day of

01:56:18.600 gun training

01:56:19.600 no

01:56:19.980 I

01:56:21.160 where I

01:56:22.940 disagree with

01:56:23.600 you is I

01:56:24.300 don't think

01:56:25.040 cops are ever

01:56:26.280 held liable

01:56:27.360 or else all

01:56:28.300 those cops who

01:56:28.940 killed all those

01:56:29.500 dogs would be

01:56:29.980 rotting in jail

01:56:30.500 right now

01:56:31.000 alright guys

01:56:32.320 that has been

01:56:33.140 the culture war

01:56:34.480 live

01:56:35.360 now Amber Duke

01:56:36.940 starting with you

01:56:37.500 everybody

01:56:37.980 you know

01:56:38.820 shout out

01:56:39.640 where people can

01:56:40.400 find you

01:56:40.760 I saved this

01:56:41.880 event

01:56:42.240 people don't know

01:56:44.100 she wrote about it

01:56:45.860 she covered the

01:56:46.540 story

01:56:46.780 where can they

01:56:47.200 find you

01:56:47.640 they can find me

01:56:48.600 at dailycollar.com

01:56:49.700 or on X

01:56:50.400 at Amber Marie Duke

01:56:51.340 thanks guys

01:56:52.060 I'm Rich High

01:56:55.120 you can find me

01:56:55.720 on Angry Cops

01:56:56.420 on Twitter

01:56:56.980 and YouTube

01:56:57.500 and all the other

01:56:58.000 stuff and also

01:56:58.640 I'm Michael's

01:56:59.380 partner

01:56:59.660 and I'm

01:57:02.360 primetime

01:57:02.820 Alex Stein

01:57:03.540 and you know

01:57:04.020 what I'm about

01:57:04.640 I'm about

01:57:05.040 saving big booty

01:57:05.860 Latinas

01:57:06.660 we love big booty

01:57:08.080 Latinas

01:57:09.080 big booty

01:57:10.140 Latinas

01:57:11.540 Michael Malice

01:57:16.640 I just want to

01:57:17.400 remind you all

01:57:17.980 that there's only

01:57:18.480 two kinds of cops

01:57:19.440 the bad cops

01:57:20.400 and the ones

01:57:20.960 who've been

01:57:21.240 spoiled by the

01:57:21.860 bad cops

01:57:22.400 Jesus

01:57:27.540 the Jason Ellis

01:57:30.340 the Jason Ellis

01:57:30.360 dot com

01:57:30.800 for two of

01:57:31.220 dates

01:57:31.520 I got the

01:57:32.180 Jason Ellis

01:57:32.640 show

01:57:32.840 it's a podcast

01:57:33.420 it's a

01:57:33.900 Patreon

01:57:34.220 patreon.com

01:57:35.160 slash

01:57:35.460 hellismate

01:57:36.060 and at

01:57:37.100 wolfmate

01:57:37.500 on Instagram

01:57:38.020 thank you

01:57:38.720 I would yell

01:57:40.860 but I'm losing

01:57:41.340 my voice

01:57:41.740 so I can't

01:57:42.160 pull in

01:57:42.360 Alex Stein

01:57:42.780 but I want to

01:57:43.660 thank everybody

01:57:44.040 for coming

01:57:44.520 this has been

01:57:44.900 amazing

01:57:45.280 sold out show

01:57:46.180 we've got another

01:57:46.840 one coming next

01:57:47.440 week

01:57:47.640 hope to see you

01:57:48.040 there

01:57:48.260 of course

01:57:48.820 you can follow

01:57:49.280 me on

01:57:49.660 X and Instagram

01:57:50.220 at Timcast

01:57:50.980 shout out to

01:57:51.880 the crew

01:57:52.380 that produced

01:57:53.780 all this

01:57:54.160 made it all

01:57:54.560 possible

01:57:54.840 all these

01:57:55.800 amazing cameras

01:57:56.520 and we hope

01:57:58.400 to do a lot

01:57:58.840 more because

01:57:59.440 it's a lot

01:58:00.040 of fun

01:58:00.480 and I hope

01:58:01.620 it was fun

01:58:01.960 and funny

01:58:02.200 for all of

01:58:02.520 you guys

01:58:02.820 so thanks

01:58:03.240 so much

01:58:03.520 for hanging

01:58:03.740 out

01:58:03.920 we'll see

01:58:04.160 y'all

01:58:04.260 next time

01:58:04.620 yeah

The Culture War - Tim Pool - August 08, 2025

The Great Police DEBATE w⧸ Michael Malice, Jason Ellis, Angry Cops, & Alex Stein

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