The Culture War - Tim Pool - The RETURN Of Riot Season, Summer of Love 2.0 Is COMING w⧸ Richie McGinniss & Julio Rojas

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00:01:17.040 Well, it's the end of February and we're about six weeks away from what we would like to call riot season.

00:01:27.200 The issues that face the United States right now don't seem to have the same kind of fervor that they did in 2020

00:01:36.440 with the killing of George Floyd and the summer of love that came after it.

00:01:42.760 And it doesn't seem to have the same kind of fervor that we had back in 2013 with the Ferguson riots.

00:01:51.580 But considering the immigration battle that's on deck and the possibility of sending back a lot of illegal immigrants,

00:02:01.560 whether they be here recently or whether they be dreamers or something like that,

00:02:07.160 the possibility of some kind of tension between protesters and the left and law enforcement

00:02:14.740 or even people on the right is as real as it's ever been.

00:02:18.920 So today we have a couple of guests to talk about that.

00:02:23.320 Why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself, Julio?

00:02:25.220 Julio Rosas. I'm the national correspondent for Blaze Media.

00:02:27.900 I also have my personal sub stack, MostlyPeaceful.media.

00:02:32.160 Awesome. Thank you.

00:02:32.640 I kind of guess where that name comes from.

00:02:34.300 Thank you very much.

00:02:36.280 I'm Richie McGinnis. I just took a new gig at Politibrawl, which is the biggest sub stack out there.

00:02:41.420 And we just cover what's going on in D.C., put it in real world terms.

00:02:46.180 And I'm also the author of Riot Diet. Get your copy today on the Bezos Boutique.

00:02:50.760 And he did not bring the...

00:02:53.180 I forgot the book.

00:02:54.160 Well, he didn't bring the book, but he also didn't bring the gas mask

00:02:56.800 that he had last time he was here.

00:02:58.480 You go on my Twitter, you can see me get pepper sprayed as a publicity stunt.

00:03:01.100 So check that out.

00:03:01.820 It's a miserable experience.

00:03:03.540 You can go watch him do it. You don't want to do it yourself.

00:03:05.680 Immediately regretting it.

00:03:07.120 So, you know, let's jump right into it.

00:03:10.140 There are currently protests that are happening over ICE raids in California.

00:03:16.100 Now, these things do happen nationwide.

00:03:20.920 I think the reason why, like we stated earlier, you know, it's riot season because protesters

00:03:26.640 aren't as motivated to get out when it's 20 degrees outside as they are when it's balmy

00:03:34.400 and they're kind of bored and looking for something to do.

00:03:38.940 With, I think, what, Netanyahu's visit was an exception.

00:03:43.040 It was pretty cold, though.

00:03:44.120 Yeah, that was an exception to the whole season thing.

00:03:46.280 But what are your sense, or what is both your sense as to how much juice is in the left looking

00:03:56.420 to riot?

00:03:57.080 Do you think that they're looking to protest?

00:03:58.680 Do you think that the issues that are probably the most volatile, do you think they have enough

00:04:04.720 to actually become a nationwide phenomenon?

00:04:10.140 Or do you think that it's going to be just pockets?

00:04:12.300 I think it's mainly going to be pockets, but obviously those pockets are the big cities,

00:04:18.920 right?

00:04:19.060 Los Angeles, Chicago, New York.

00:04:22.400 And so, because I was in Los Angeles a couple weeks ago covering these protests, and throughout

00:04:28.460 the week, it was mainly high school students who were walking out of school to protest ICE.

00:04:34.580 Now, I know a lot of people kind of like to, you know, discount that by saying, oh, they

00:04:39.120 just want us to skip school.

00:04:39.920 And don't get me wrong, I think that was a part of it, especially the one that happened

00:04:43.340 on Friday, that Friday.

00:04:45.360 But also, you know, they were Latinos.

00:04:47.120 So, I mean, they do have skin in the game, so to speak, at least in their eyes.

00:04:51.100 And so, I think it's still too early.

00:04:54.220 But, I mean, it's not unreasonable to assume that once the deportations really start ramping

00:05:00.500 up, which I know people are criticizing the pace right now, but it's only been a month.

00:05:03.820 But, you know, once they ramp up, once they start to fully envelop more people than just

00:05:11.700 the hardened criminals, I think at that point, then yes.

00:05:14.220 Because, I mean, you see, like, with the TikTok videos, right?

00:05:16.340 Like, you see people do, like, reporting, like, the sightings.

00:05:19.360 You had that radio station out in, I think, San Francisco giving out, you know, live reports

00:05:24.220 on, you know, ISIS in this neighborhood at the street.

00:05:27.440 So, the resistance is certainly there, I think.

00:05:32.220 And in order for it to go really go crazy, I think it would kind of have to be kind of

00:05:36.000 like a Jorge Flores type situation, where someone gets something, you know, may or may not, you

00:05:40.760 know, look, something that looks bad on camera, even if it's not.

00:05:43.960 Something that looks bad on camera that can then kind of spark that wave.

00:05:46.920 But, I mean, 2020 was just really unique because it was an election year.

00:05:49.840 There was that COVID background to it.

00:05:53.020 And then, I mean, yeah, it's no coincidence that it popped off in May, like, at the end of

00:05:56.420 May, right?

00:05:56.860 So, just from my point of view, it is going to be a movement for sure.

00:06:03.840 It just needs, I think, a little bit more time to kind of build up any sort of steam in

00:06:07.340 order to have any sort of significant impact in places like New York City or Chicago.

00:06:13.460 Richie, you're always on the ground, too.

00:06:14.760 So, do you feel the same kind of energy in the protests that you've been to, say, in

00:06:19.920 the past two years leading up to the recent election of Donald Trump?

00:06:24.040 Because one of the things that I think, I think that the president does matter.

00:06:28.060 There's a lot of people on the far left that were very comfortable calling Joe Biden genocide

00:06:32.800 Joe and stuff.

00:06:34.600 But I feel like that element is a constant.

00:06:37.500 And I think that they, you need some kind of motivation for people that are more loosely

00:06:42.960 affiliated with politics to get them involved.

00:06:46.480 So, what's your sense about that?

00:06:47.660 Well, I've been, so, Julio, were you out in front of the Columbus statue at Union Station

00:06:53.080 over the summer?

00:06:54.360 Yeah.

00:06:54.540 Yeah, I saw you.

00:06:55.620 Yeah, okay.

00:06:56.560 I, you know, it's all a blurb.

00:06:58.400 I said, like, I thought you retired.

00:06:59.880 But that was the biggest, like, anti-Netanyahu, anti-Israel protest, or Palestine protest of

00:07:05.560 that year.

00:07:06.380 And that was pretty crazy.

00:07:07.580 That was almost at 2020 levels.

00:07:09.900 Recently, this winter, after the election, I was at Netanyahu's last visit to the White

00:07:15.540 House.

00:07:15.920 And there were, like, you know, a couple thousand people outside.

00:07:18.360 But actually, what was bigger was the USAID protest that was happening on the same day.

00:07:22.100 It was, like, twice the size.

00:07:24.380 And the thing that I noticed...

00:07:24.900 No, that was protesting Doge, right?

00:07:27.480 That wasn't...

00:07:27.920 Yes.

00:07:28.160 Sorry.

00:07:28.400 That was Doge protest.

00:07:29.200 It was before the USAID stuff.

00:07:30.880 But that group of people, I've been out at a couple of those protests, and that's a

00:07:35.700 much older crew.

00:07:36.720 So, it's, like, a lot of people who are federal employees, and I was just out there this week

00:07:42.180 for a protest in front of the Capitol, and I was just amazed.

00:07:45.680 I mean, it was a couple thousand people.

00:07:47.020 So, it was a sizable protest, but it was a much, much older group.

00:07:49.940 And I think that group is much different from the pro-Palestine, anti-Israel group, which

00:07:56.460 is a lot younger.

00:07:57.500 So, I think it depends on what the topic is and what's happening.

00:08:00.760 But I definitely think, moving forward, we're going to see protests around immigration, protests

00:08:04.980 around what's going on in the Middle East, Ukraine, and, obviously, the Doge.

00:08:09.280 So, you guys feel...

00:08:10.100 Do you agree that there might be protests on Ukraine?

00:08:12.580 Now, the fact that you mentioned that is interesting to me, because I don't feel like there is a lot

00:08:17.880 of motivation in young people about the Ukraine situation.

00:08:23.280 I mean, granted, how the negotiations go and what ends up happening in Ukraine, it's possible

00:08:29.040 that that could change.

00:08:30.140 But it's my sense that it's not a topic that really puts fire in the belly of the young

00:08:37.280 people that are most likely to get out and get the most rambunctious.

00:08:40.440 What's your thought?

00:08:41.200 Yeah, I don't think that's going to be...

00:08:44.180 That might be kind of what...

00:08:45.760 You know, it might be at a protest, you might see a Ukraine flag.

00:08:48.560 Sure.

00:08:48.900 Sure.

00:08:49.420 Of course, there's always going to be that one person, right?

00:08:51.580 But in terms of, like, for a whole movement, I don't see that being, like, a big catalyst.

00:08:56.400 I mean, look, anything can happen, right?

00:08:58.260 I mean, it's kind of hard.

00:08:59.500 It's hard to predict these things, because they're just so chaotic by nature, and that's

00:09:02.680 what makes them fun.

00:09:03.700 But they...

00:09:04.860 This is...

00:09:05.760 I think the main thing is just going to be that it's going to be mainly focused on immigration,

00:09:09.980 because as we were talking about before we went live, like, the Palestinian protests have,

00:09:14.160 like, really lost steam compared to where they were.

00:09:17.640 Because even, like...

00:09:18.360 So, for example, like, the DNC last year in Chicago, everyone was kind of expecting that

00:09:22.700 to be crazy, and there were moments, don't get me wrong, but even the turnout was not nearly

00:09:28.340 as big as the protesting groups were projecting.

00:09:31.560 People were guessing.

00:09:33.440 It was...

00:09:33.940 People were saying, like, up to, like, 100,000, and, like, I think the busiest was, like,

00:09:38.100 close to 20,000, and, like, that was...

00:09:39.380 And I'm not discounting that, but it just shows that, at least here in the United States,

00:09:44.360 you know, England is probably a different...

00:09:46.840 Sure, yeah.

00:09:47.480 ...different circumstance, just by, again, by pure numbers.

00:09:50.180 But, like, here in the United States, it doesn't have that widespread appeal like BLM

00:09:53.440 did at the beginning, and so...

00:09:55.280 But, obviously, we have a lot more Latinos here in the United States, so just purely on a numbers

00:10:00.140 game, and the same thing with Ukrainians.

00:10:02.080 Like, we don't have that many Ukrainians.

00:10:03.240 Like, yeah, the people who are going to care about that are, like, the people in the beltway,

00:10:06.960 right?

00:10:07.460 Because the money's being threatened now.

00:10:08.800 Sure, yeah.

00:10:09.180 But I don't think they're going to burn down the White House or anything crazy like that,

00:10:13.520 so I think it's going to be mainly focused on immigration.

00:10:16.240 Don't you think there's some fatigue, too?

00:10:17.480 Because everybody's been screaming about Trump as a fascist for the last almost 10 years

00:10:22.480 now, and at this point, it's been a five-alarm fire for nearly a decade, and, you know, at

00:10:29.340 what point...

00:10:29.900 That's one thing that I've noticed, as well, is with the Doge protests, people have turned

00:10:33.760 their ire towards people like Elon Musk, because Trump is just not the galvanizing figure that

00:10:38.840 he was during BLM, where...

00:10:40.520 He's not new.

00:10:41.260 Yeah, exactly.

00:10:41.940 So it's like Elon is now kind of public enemy number one.

00:10:45.200 I mean, I think that it makes sense that Donald Trump is, you know, a known quantity now to

00:10:51.180 most Americans, but I think that the fact that he has such a high approval rating now, as

00:10:57.080 well, comparatively...

00:10:58.720 Oh, yeah.

00:10:59.140 I mean, he's got...

00:11:00.280 He has...

00:11:01.360 You know, if you told a Democrat, if you told him three years ago, Donald Trump's going

00:11:07.240 to win again.

00:11:07.840 He's going to win with the popular vote, and when he wins, he's going to have an approval

00:11:15.060 rating that is on par with any other Republican.

00:11:17.600 They would have lost their minds, and they would have said, you're crazy, because they had convinced

00:11:22.640 themselves that he was this, you know, this unique evil and unique threat.

00:11:27.680 And now, like I said, his approval rating is very...

00:11:32.180 You know, it's normal.

00:11:33.020 It's what you would expect from a normal politician.

00:11:35.720 I don't think that most Americans look at him as...

00:11:40.180 To your point, I don't think most Americans look at him as a threat to democracy or a threat

00:11:47.080 to the United States the way that they used to.

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00:12:48.060 Are you tired of politicians who will do anything to get your vote,

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00:13:17.880 Do you think that that could change if he does actually become more draconian in his methods,

00:13:25.660 or if he directs the immigration and homeland security to become more draconian in their methods

00:13:31.220 surrounding deportations?

00:13:34.380 Well, define draconian.

00:13:36.080 I guess, what would you consider?

00:13:37.260 So, everyone that's over a certain age remembers the picture during the Bill Clinton administration

00:13:45.820 where Emilio Gonzalez, I think is his name, and there's a dude literally pointing an MP5 at the father,

00:13:53.360 trying to grab the kid.

00:13:54.460 Everybody remembers that.

00:13:56.080 And that kind of imagery can motivate people.

00:13:59.500 And in the modern era, where everyone has a cell phone,

00:14:05.580 but just because everyone has a cell phone that records video,

00:14:08.240 doesn't mean you get an understanding of what's going on.

00:14:11.000 Because you look at, I think it was Philando Castile that set off the Ferguson, right?

00:14:15.900 No, no, no.

00:14:16.360 What was his name?

00:14:17.400 No, Michael Brown.

00:14:18.340 Michael Brown.

00:14:19.020 Michael Brown.

00:14:19.600 No, no, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, not Fredison.

00:14:21.580 I'm thinking where Rittenhouse was.

00:14:24.100 You were there.

00:14:24.840 Oh, Jacob Blake.

00:14:25.740 Oh, Jacob Blake.

00:14:26.280 Jacob Blake, yeah.

00:14:26.700 Jacob Blake.

00:14:27.280 Everyone saw that.

00:14:28.760 They didn't know the context.

00:14:30.300 They didn't know that he had just committed sexual assault.

00:14:32.660 They didn't know that he was trying to kidnap kids,

00:14:34.900 that he had a knife in the car.

00:14:37.000 And they were like, oh, that's clearly a bad shoot.

00:14:40.300 Kamala Harris went and took pictures with him.

00:14:42.700 So even though-

00:14:43.800 He was tased twice right before the video picked up, too.

00:14:45.940 So he was just escaping from the police grasp,

00:14:48.400 but he had been tased twice before that.

00:14:50.200 But it was still enough-

00:14:51.320 You couldn't see that in like that seven, eight seconds.

00:14:53.280 No, no, but it was still enough to basically burn down all of Kenosha.

00:14:58.280 Yeah.

00:14:58.900 So is it your sense that we're in a position where a photograph or a video that is misunderstood

00:15:08.680 could set things off the way that they did still?

00:15:11.100 Yeah, and that's what I was referring to about calling it like Jorge Flores.

00:15:16.720 But yeah, I think, and that's why I think the administration is trying to,

00:15:22.380 not necessarily be careful, but they're trying to be prepared for any eventuality

00:15:27.340 that can come to pass like that.

00:15:29.480 Because obviously, as we've seen, right?

00:15:32.900 All it takes is one thing, and then everything goes haywire.

00:15:36.700 So I don't-

00:15:38.120 So that's the unknown quantity.

00:15:39.620 That's kind of like the X factor in all this.

00:15:40.940 And of course, the chances of that happening, of something either is bad or just simply looks

00:15:46.480 bad, is going to increase just because, like I said, the capacity to carry out this

00:15:52.520 mass deportation is only going to increase as time goes on.

00:15:56.080 Don't you think that people now, though, are more aware of the way that these things function?

00:16:00.440 Like, you remember the whole thing, was it the Texas National Guard or the Border Patrol,

00:16:05.080 the whipping?

00:16:05.800 Oh, yeah, the Border Patrol, yeah.

00:16:06.920 And like, that was dispelled pretty quickly.

00:16:09.460 Yeah, people were like-

00:16:10.020 No, no, that stayed alive for a lot longer than it should have.

00:16:13.740 Yeah.

00:16:14.040 And I mean, obviously, like, today, most people would say, but I mean, that year, a lot of

00:16:19.680 people-

00:16:20.040 I mean, yeah, that was like the only thing that got Democrats to the border, right?

00:16:23.000 It was like, you know, so I don't know.

00:16:26.020 You know, you see, like, stuff that just goes viral on social media still these days and

00:16:30.200 that aren't as, not as, like, abrupt and in your face about stuff, and, you know, people

00:16:36.880 still eat that up.

00:16:38.160 I mean, like, like, like, example, like, like, when Pete, you know, Secretary Hexeth was drinking

00:16:42.860 water and all these viral, like, posts on X, they're like, oh, look, he's drinking on

00:16:47.580 the job, and he's like, no, that's his palm through, you know, through it.

00:16:51.220 So, I don't know.

00:16:52.600 I don't-

00:16:52.960 I don't-

00:16:53.460 I saw a quick clip of that.

00:16:55.540 Yeah, yeah, it re-scotches for its 20 minutes.

00:16:57.660 I saw it, and I was just like, yeah, yeah, military guy's drinking some whiskey.

00:17:00.160 Right, no, right.

00:17:01.060 So, so, so now you take something as insignificant as, like, potentially drinking to, like, someone

00:17:06.400 getting injured or someone getting killed in an ice raid.

00:17:09.160 I don't know.

00:17:09.820 I think people are still very much primed for just immediately reacting.

00:17:15.380 I think, again, the appeal, like, the widespread appeal and the excuse making that we saw back

00:17:21.060 in 2020, because that was, that was constant.

00:17:23.260 I mean, BLM had a 70% approval rating in June of that year.

00:17:27.600 I mean, that's crazy.

00:17:28.460 Yeah.

00:17:28.640 Do you think that that was, do you think that that was legitimate or do you think that

00:17:33.460 that was just fear of not saying the right thing?

00:17:35.740 How much, because there was definitely, I mean, everybody remembers the pictures of people

00:17:40.960 in D.C. surrounding that woman who was like, and they're just like this, and she's surrounded

00:17:46.200 by, you know, basically college kids, and you, and good for her that she would never really

00:17:51.800 gave in to them, but that's intimidating.

00:17:54.380 And that really does put a damper on people's ability or people's inclination to stand up

00:17:59.940 and say, no, I don't.

00:18:01.180 And I think this is a bad thing.

00:18:02.340 You were, you were risking a lot by coming out and saying, no, I don't support you.

00:18:05.900 Black box on Instagram.

00:18:06.860 Yeah.

00:18:07.360 I had, I had like friends from college doing that.

00:18:09.760 And I'm thinking, what the hell are you doing?

00:18:11.220 What is this?

00:18:12.300 This is amazing.

00:18:12.880 Like, which, which is even funnier because then people were saying, no, because then

00:18:15.740 it blacks everything out.

00:18:16.960 Like, you can't see anything that we would post.

00:18:19.280 So, um, no, I think, I think that was part of it.

00:18:22.580 And so again, I think some, I think large parts of the country are smarter because I think

00:18:28.400 they kind of realized the scam that that particular movement was, but this is new.

00:18:33.900 Um, this, well, it's, it's, it's, it's the current thing, right?

00:18:37.400 It's the current thing right now.

00:18:38.160 So I don't, I don't know.

00:18:40.340 It's, it's, it's really hard to get, I mean, it's, it's like trying to pull,

00:18:42.880 an election, right?

00:18:43.760 I mean, and, and, and that's easier to do than trying to pull people's reactions to

00:18:47.520 a crazy, a crazy incident.

00:18:50.400 Um, so it's, I don't know that that's, that's inherent, right?

00:18:53.460 Cause it's, it's, it's chaotic by nature.

00:18:55.960 Yeah.

00:18:56.400 It's, I think it's a question of that X factor of is one of those events going to galvanize

00:19:00.520 people to go to the streets.

00:19:02.340 But secondarily, you know, you remember the kids in cages narrative that literally the

00:19:06.920 cages were built by Barack Obama's administration.

00:19:09.040 Um, that those things being pushed by the likes of CNN and New York times, they have

00:19:14.120 much, much, much less relevance in the discourse today than they did back then.

00:19:17.860 Right.

00:19:18.560 They're not driving the discourse anymore.

00:19:20.580 Yeah, I agree.

00:19:21.300 I, and I think that the result of the, of not just the George Floyd riots in 2020, but I

00:19:28.400 think a large portion of it was because of COVID.

00:19:31.160 I do feel like the majority of, of people that would consider themselves marginally online,

00:19:38.100 I feel like they're far more savvy about the information that they're being, that's

00:19:44.000 being given to them.

00:19:44.880 That's being offered.

00:19:45.760 I don't want to say that's being shoved down their throat because we do have a lot of options.

00:19:49.440 We can, you know, click away.

00:19:50.660 We can not read articles and stuff.

00:19:52.040 Um, and I look at the information, you know, the landscape as more like offering and people

00:19:59.140 or, or, you know, like a, like a, like a smorgasbord or like a, you know, tapas, you

00:20:02.680 know, you can go ahead and try a little bit of this, try a little bit of that, but people

00:20:06.720 have the option to say, I don't want to read this or I, I, I don't believe this.

00:20:11.800 So I'm not going to, now I think that there's a phenomenon where people tend to put themselves

00:20:15.920 into a bubble when they do that.

00:20:17.560 But at the same time, I do think that you don't have the same penetration with a lie

00:20:24.860 that, pardon me?

00:20:25.980 I just said her.

00:20:27.480 Yeah.

00:20:27.940 But you, you know, you don't have the same kind of penetration with a lie or with, with

00:20:31.260 a, with a misrepresentation because you brought up the photo of the, the border patrol.

00:20:37.040 And before you mentioned it, I was thinking, oh, you know, pictures probably won't have the

00:20:41.760 same kind of impact because, because we live in an age of video.

00:20:46.500 But then as soon as you mentioned it, I was like, well, actually, no, he's, it was wrong

00:20:49.600 to think that because that, that particular picture really did affect a lot of people.

00:20:54.700 But I, I, I feel like the picture was backing up a narrative that people already kind of

00:21:01.920 wanted to believe.

00:21:02.720 And there was a whole industry, cottage industry that was pushing that narrative.

00:21:07.420 I don't, and I don't feel like there's that same, you know, the, the, the, the industry

00:21:13.000 of, of, of, you know, discontent has the same impact today.

00:21:19.620 Well, well, because, and you're bringing up the picture right now, because in order to,

00:21:23.600 so in order to believe that you, you would have to have thought or just assume that border

00:21:28.680 patrol is issued whips.

00:21:30.660 Whips and people didn't stop to think, wait, are they issued whips?

00:21:34.080 Like, that doesn't make sense.

00:21:35.120 Yeah.

00:21:35.460 Like, we never heard of this before.

00:21:36.620 Like, it is, and of course it was just, I mean, you, you had a, you had a whole, you

00:21:41.480 know, that whole part of the year where it's mostly, I'm going to say it, mostly brown

00:21:44.540 people coming across.

00:21:45.460 But of course, the, the one time where there might be whipping and it's actually black people

00:21:49.640 involved.

00:21:50.100 So very dark.

00:21:51.320 Yeah.

00:21:51.740 Yeah.

00:21:51.920 It was, it was, it was just, it was just bad.

00:21:53.800 It was like the, the, the circumstances was bad, but, but, but again, Nigeria, the two Nigerians

00:21:59.100 that day, right?

00:21:59.700 No, no, it was Haitians.

00:22:01.060 What was it?

00:22:01.440 It was Haitians.

00:22:01.960 Oh, they're Haitians?

00:22:02.500 Yeah.

00:22:02.740 That was during the Del Rio Haitian crisis where 20,000 of them showed up in a week.

00:22:06.780 So yeah, it was just, it was just bad.

00:22:08.100 It was just really bad time.

00:22:09.020 I mean, who wants to stay in Haiti?

00:22:10.100 They were smart to get out of there.

00:22:11.200 And so, um, I mean, that's why it went viral, right?

00:22:13.520 Right.

00:22:13.680 Well, right, right.

00:22:14.660 So, cause it's not just, it's not just a white border patrol agent.

00:22:17.620 It's, it's a white on horseback with a quote unquote whip.

00:22:19.980 So, so that's what I'm saying.

00:22:21.420 No one, no one, people that were believing that, they never stopped to think, wait, and of

00:22:26.380 course, no, border patrol is not issued whips.

00:22:28.900 Um, so I, I don't, I just don't really have faith in, in people like today, like a lot

00:22:36.600 of people, obviously I'm not saying like the majority, but I just, we've just seen too

00:22:39.700 many examples on lesser, like, like lower stakes, quote unquote controversies as then

00:22:45.380 as opposed to, you know, something like that in like, let's say during an ice raid in Chicago.

00:22:48.840 Do you guys think that the size of the protest matters?

00:22:51.500 Because everyone knows that, or most, not everyone, but most people, especially typically

00:22:55.700 are specific, specifically guys like you that have been on the ground in these protests.

00:22:59.000 You know, that during the day, there are people that you would consider true believers, right?

00:23:03.960 They're there, they believe in the cause and they're actually there to protest.

00:23:07.360 And those people go home and the people that are looking to smash things, get buck wild

00:23:11.700 and stuff.

00:23:12.220 Those are the guys that either come out at night or they come out later in the day.

00:23:15.360 And that's when the problems start, when, when riots start, when it becomes, you know,

00:23:21.000 people that are fighting the cops and stuff.

00:23:22.700 And if I'm, if I'm off base here, please, like I said, you guys have been on, on the ground,

00:23:26.800 but that's my impression.

00:23:27.620 Is that the case or?

00:23:29.560 Well, definitely.

00:23:31.200 Whether it was BLM or January 6th, it was always the same.

00:23:34.960 You have a massive group of people who are out there with the intention of protesting peacefully.

00:23:39.180 And then you have a much smaller proportion of that group who are going to use that group

00:23:44.560 as an opportunity to agitate cops.

00:23:47.240 And, and effectively what you have in these situations, because the police are mobilized

00:23:50.780 to pay attention to the protest in a place like Kenosha, when they're all focused on

00:23:54.680 defending the courthouse, that then gives opportunity to people, for people to come from outside.

00:24:00.060 Because most of the people who were there on the third night of rioting, when the shooting

00:24:02.360 happened, were not from Kenosha.

00:24:04.220 And they're going to come in there to loot and to, to burn things down.

00:24:08.280 Um, so I think the one element that's a little bit different now is that there was such a

00:24:12.780 widespread anti-police sentiment in 2020 that I don't think that, that all cops are bastards.

00:24:19.280 Can I, can I say that?

00:24:20.500 Um, even, I don't think it's on the same level that it was with that being said, to answer

00:24:25.060 your question, if you have a large group of protesters, it only takes a very small proportion

00:24:29.120 of them to get the pepper spray out.

00:24:31.020 And once that happens, a lot of those people who are out there with good intentions turn into

00:24:35.100 lizard brains because you got pepper spray in your eyes and Julio, you know, well, uh,

00:24:39.760 what happens when you get the pepper spray going, you, you, it's hard to use your frontal

00:24:43.080 cortex when that takes place.

00:24:44.940 I mean, I would, I would say that the people, cause yeah, I would say that even the people,

00:24:52.060 and I would even argue, say even the people who want to go out and cause violence, I would

00:24:55.720 say that they're truer believers.

00:24:58.600 I think because, because, and I'll give you an example, uh, with like with the Palestinian

00:25:03.260 protests, right?

00:25:03.960 I've covered a lot.

00:25:04.860 I covered one literally the next day after October 7th.

00:25:08.080 Um, you know, they, they've been talking, they, they're talking, they're marching and,

00:25:12.660 and you, you see this kind of online with, with like different groups, um, kind of arguing

00:25:18.000 with each other.

00:25:19.760 Okay.

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00:26:52.200 So why are you just going to march around and protest, right?

00:26:58.040 If you truly believe that, why don't you do take more steps to try to stop that?

00:27:03.260 That's kind of how I'm...

00:27:04.820 So that's why I'm kind of thinking for Antifa and BLM, I think that they really believe that

00:27:11.500 America is just so racist and all that.

00:27:14.260 And that's why they want to go out and attack the federal courthouse and all that.

00:27:18.000 So I wouldn't say that the true believers are only the peaceful protesters.

00:27:21.820 Obviously, yes.

00:27:22.860 Again, they're out there.

00:27:23.800 But I would say that actually people who probably believe most in the cause are the ones that

00:27:28.580 are willing to actually do more than just march around and have a speech.

00:27:32.640 And you see that constant argument between far-left groups about how don't be a protest

00:27:40.100 police, don't help the police, don't, you know, don't, we have to do more and all that

00:27:43.640 stuff.

00:27:43.940 So I...

00:27:44.720 Respect, what is it?

00:27:45.740 Respect, I forget the phrase.

00:27:48.040 Tim says it a lot.

00:27:48.840 It's respect many methods or something along those lines.

00:27:53.240 Yeah, something along those lines.

00:27:54.220 Yeah.

00:27:54.420 Like, yeah, there's many ways to protest.

00:27:56.140 Yeah, exactly.

00:27:56.640 And that's kind of like their signal where it's just like, you guys can do what you want.

00:27:59.540 I mean, it's a long and short, they might as well be saying snitches get stitches.

00:28:04.480 Yeah.

00:28:04.800 You know?

00:28:05.220 Right.

00:28:05.520 So it just depends, and obviously, like I said, it depends on what the cause is and

00:28:10.360 what they're out there for, but just generally speaking, I'm just...

00:28:14.540 And that's why it's even more funny when, particularly with like Antifa and BLM, you

00:28:18.680 know, they say that we're going to abolish the, you know, we're going to go against the

00:28:22.340 United States government, it's all corrupt, and then as soon as they get arrested, then

00:28:26.200 they start crying about their constitutional rights that they were just rallying against

00:28:30.040 because it's so racist and capitalist and all this other nonsense.

00:28:33.560 Yeah, I mean, I frequently make a statement, frequently talk about the idea that the left

00:28:38.720 doesn't actually believe in anything, they really are just looking for access to power.

00:28:44.120 So if they can use the Constitution as a way to convince people to not take them to jail

00:28:49.640 or that they're not breaking the law, they will, but as soon as, you know, they're not

00:28:55.280 the ones in the crosshairs, then they're like, F your constitutional rights, we don't care

00:28:59.380 about that, you know, the people on...

00:29:01.840 On January 6th, for example.

00:29:03.040 Yeah, exactly.

00:29:04.200 Well, and that's why it's funny, because like when USA was being shut down, and then

00:29:08.020 you have all the Democrats be like, oh, our sacred Constitution doesn't allow this, like

00:29:11.380 you guys crap on that all the time, like, what are you talking about?

00:29:14.700 And there's no, nothing in the Constitution says that there has to be a CIA-fronted State

00:29:20.900 Department agency that are, you know...

00:29:23.280 That gives away billions of dollars.

00:29:24.840 That's one other factor that I think is worth considering, is Kash Patel just got, he's the

00:29:29.920 FBI director now, and he, along with Trump, had promised to release the JFK files, along

00:29:35.660 with Epstein, and if, you know, 30 years of the dirt is getting dug up, I think people,

00:29:41.580 you know, because if you look at the distrust in the American government historically, that

00:29:46.580 all really started with JFK's assassination, and if we learn that our government had a

00:29:52.520 role in it, which I would argue it did, that could be something that would unify, maybe

00:29:59.460 even the left and the right to be angry and take to the streets, because, wow, our government

00:30:03.820 was doing this all along.

00:30:04.960 You don't get the sense that there's already, the people that are inclined to believe that

00:30:09.760 already believe that, or at least, so, maybe it's better if I articulate the way I feel

00:30:14.320 about it than trying to ask you, so, it's my sense that the people that believe that CIA

00:30:20.100 was responsible for the death of JFK, they kind of have already made their mind up about

00:30:26.300 it, and we've talked about this, and I forget who else we were talking about it, but when it

00:30:30.620 comes to, and I want to put a pin in the fact that Kash Patel is the FBI director now, because

00:30:36.440 that, I think, does actually affect how things are going to be, you know, how the FBI is going

00:30:42.680 to work in regards to protests moving forward, but as far as the JFK stuff, it's my sense that

00:30:49.940 the people that are inclined to believe it already believe it, because, I mean, how long

00:30:54.900 ago did the Oliver Stone movie come out, where they...

00:30:57.720 93 or something.

00:30:58.420 Yeah, so it's been 30 years since that movie came out, and that was, the implication was

00:31:02.580 there, and I think that if there was confirmation, I don't feel like that would rally people,

00:31:07.680 just like the people that want to believe in UFOs, or UAPs, or whatever they call them

00:31:13.820 now, when Congress and the government started saying, well, no, actually, we've seen some

00:31:20.640 stuff, and these things are, and they started confirming, it wasn't this big, you know, earth-shaking

00:31:27.120 development, people were just like, yeah, we know, and I feel like that might be, I feel

00:31:33.820 like that's the most likely result of it.

00:31:36.280 Another thing you said, you mentioned the Epstein files.

00:31:39.040 I feel like, and back to Kash Patel, I feel like having Kash Patel in the position that

00:31:46.400 he's in, the things like the Epstein files and the CIA files, like, it'd be fine, and

00:31:52.100 I'm perfectly, I like the idea of putting them out, I'm not saying that we shouldn't, but

00:31:56.540 I think that those things are kind of like, like red meat to the base, and it's going to

00:32:03.580 satisfy certain people that are very focused on it, but to the broad country, I don't think that

00:32:09.820 those, that information is going to change their daily lives, whereas I think the way that the FBI

00:32:15.320 prosecutes, or, you know, the way that they behave in regard to existing cartel members in

00:32:22.560 the United States, and the way that they work with Homeland Security and ICE to actually deport

00:32:28.700 people, I think that that has more, that will have more real, tangible effects on everyday

00:32:33.720 Americans' lives, and I would like both of you guys to go ahead and kind of give me your

00:32:37.800 thoughts on that.

00:32:38.740 I mean, I mean, yeah, and that's, that's what I was saying before, because that's why I think

00:32:42.800 the, the immigration issue is going to be the flashpoint for, for this year, more so than

00:32:47.220 Palestinian-Israel conflict, especially now that it's over, quote-unquote, this, this latest

00:32:54.500 iteration of it is over, we'll check back in 10 years.

00:32:57.480 We'll see when Trump goes up in Gaza.

00:32:59.180 Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, oh yeah, it'll open up a Trump Tower Gaza.

00:33:02.820 So, yeah, I, I, I just basically agree with that, because, like, yeah, I remember, I remember

00:33:07.780 when, when Congress was saying that, and, oh yeah, we got confirmation, and then, like,

00:33:11.060 we had those videos.

00:33:12.020 Yeah.

00:33:12.380 Everyone was just like, it was like, sick, now I don't really believe in UFOs, because I don't

00:33:16.380 believe in the government.

00:33:17.460 What about their, exactly?

00:33:18.220 Right, so it's either or, right?

00:33:20.100 So I don't, there are definitely bigger issues that, that are going to be, that are going

00:33:25.420 to impact people more directly than, than some of these JFK people.

00:33:29.340 Plus, you have to ask the question of, what was the roles FBI in the civil unrest that

00:33:32.820 took place in 2020 to 21?

00:33:34.920 Because what we found out in court in Kenosha was that the FBI, DHS had a drone up right

00:33:40.700 over the shooting.

00:33:41.460 We didn't get that footage until a year later, a year and a year and some change later.

00:33:45.520 And then they also had a Cessna up above, and people in the FBI who I've talked to say,

00:33:50.960 well, if they had intelligence up in the air, they certainly had human intelligence on the

00:33:54.120 ground, which begs the next question, why weren't they doing anything to stop the burning

00:33:58.000 of the entire city?

00:33:59.080 Yeah.

00:33:59.520 And then if you fast forward to January 6th, obviously there were tons of informants who

00:34:04.060 were out on January 6th.

00:34:05.860 And nobody that worked for CIA, nobody that worked for the FBI.

00:34:09.460 It was all.

00:34:09.780 They weren't paid by the FBI, that's what that means.

00:34:11.860 They were somehow.

00:34:12.160 Maybe they had some dirt on them.

00:34:14.080 They just happened to be there.

00:34:15.100 And you have to ask the question of to what extent was the FBI stoking this stuff?

00:34:23.760 I'm not saying that they were, but there's a lot of signs that they were out there and

00:34:27.880 not preventing what was happening.

00:34:29.800 And so if Kash Patel is now the director, then he'll probably take more steps to actually

00:34:33.540 stop this civil unrest from spiraling into a power vacuum like we saw in 2020.

00:34:39.440 Richie, do you have, not to ask personal questions about your job and stuff, but do you have

00:34:45.260 friends that are connected to the administration?

00:34:48.180 I play hockey against Kash Patel.

00:34:50.100 He's in my hockey league.

00:34:51.560 And he takes a lot of head high clappers.

00:34:55.420 He does.

00:34:56.140 And I will say about Kash Patel, he's been in the league since 2017, 2018.

00:35:00.960 And people on his team who I've talked to, a bunch of players on his team, they fall all

00:35:06.620 over the political spectrum, but they all find him to be one of the boys.

00:35:10.200 And they all value him as a teammate.

00:35:12.800 And I think that that speaks to a lot because you really get to know somebody when you're

00:35:18.020 in the locker room with them and, you know, hitting the showers after a game.

00:35:22.060 And Kash Patel is well regarded by his teammates.

00:35:25.900 And so I don't think that the FBI is going to be run as a political organization as it was

00:35:29.880 in the past.

00:35:30.500 And I don't, I also don't think that, you know, everybody's fearing, oh, this backlash,

00:35:35.220 like he's going to go and target all of Trump's former enemies.

00:35:38.120 I just, I don't, I don't see that happening in the way that the left wants it to.

00:35:42.000 First of all, crap.

00:35:42.560 That's what I voted for.

00:35:43.760 Yeah.

00:35:44.360 First of all, crap.

00:35:45.400 Cause I was.

00:35:45.700 Yeah, exactly.

00:35:47.460 But second of all, so do you feel, and I don't want to turn this into a conversation

00:35:53.660 just about the FBI and stuff or Kash Patel specifically, but the, do you think that he

00:36:01.100 is going to, do you think that he actually will treat people in Congress?

00:36:08.260 That have likely broken the law.

00:36:10.040 Do you think that there'll be investigations?

00:36:13.000 Or do you think that he will be like, no, we shouldn't do that because they're in Congress?

00:36:16.820 Like, well, I think if you look at his prior statements, you know, if you broke the law,

00:36:20.380 you broke the law.

00:36:21.480 And I don't think he's going to like, you know, put on white, white gloves just to handle

00:36:26.440 somebody who's politically inclined or in Congress just because they have a position

00:36:31.940 of power.

00:36:32.460 And everything, every interview that Kash Patel has ever done.

00:36:35.200 I mean, he said he wanted to turn the FBI building into a museum on day one, which I'd

00:36:39.180 be down for.

00:36:39.720 It's the ugliest building in DC for sure.

00:36:42.320 But yeah, I think it'll be interesting to see how that plays out because I, I'm not,

00:36:48.300 I'm not saying that he's going to like abstain from bringing criminal charges to people who

00:36:53.720 have committed serious crimes over the last couple of years.

00:36:56.180 And now that they're trying to hide everything, you know, and they're trying to, yeah.

00:37:00.340 Now that was my, going to be my followup.

00:37:01.920 Do you, is it your sense that the reason that he got the resistance that he did is because

00:37:08.260 the people that are actually in the Senate and in Congress are actually concerned about

00:37:13.660 their own exposure?

00:37:14.820 Yes.

00:37:15.120 And once you get back to your corner is when you start making bad decisions.

00:37:18.120 So I do think that there will be revelations over the next couple of years.

00:37:21.540 I mean, his term is 10 years long, technically we'll see what happens in the longer term,

00:37:25.440 but in the short term over the next couple of years, I do think that there are bodies

00:37:29.340 buried.

00:37:29.660 And I do think that, uh, if they didn't do a good job of covering up their crimes, then

00:37:34.080 we're going to learn about that.

00:37:35.200 Lou, do you have a sense about, about what type of, what type of director Cash Patel would

00:37:40.000 be and, and how his involvement or his, you know, taking charge of the FBI is going to

00:37:45.120 actually affect kind of day-to-day, um, you know, law enforcement on the federal level?

00:37:50.160 Yeah.

00:37:50.380 I mean, I'd be very interested to see how he takes on the Antifa cells.

00:37:53.960 I mean, that, that is, that is a, they had free reign in 2020.

00:37:59.000 I mean, yeah, they might've gotten arrested in Portland or Seattle, but they were just

00:38:02.300 like, let out the next night.

00:38:04.200 Yeah.

00:38:04.320 Let out the next night.

00:38:04.960 And that's why it was so crazy for, it was interesting to see people who made, you know,

00:38:09.860 made a big deal about the number of cops injured on January 6th, but they have nothing

00:38:13.140 to say about the federal officers that were injured protecting the federal courthouse in

00:38:17.060 Portland.

00:38:17.260 And, uh, uh, in the book that I wrote, uh, fire, but mostly peaceful, uh, about the riots

00:38:23.940 and, and that particular thing.

00:38:24.940 I mean, you had people charged who were arrested with weapons and were charged with, uh, assaulting

00:38:31.000 a federal officer and they, nothing happened to them.

00:38:33.700 Yeah.

00:38:33.920 They got, they got, they got let out.

00:38:35.000 So, so that, that, so that's, that's the new, that's the new dynamic now where if there

00:38:40.360 is unrest, like let's say stemming from the immigration issue, I think, I think the FBI

00:38:46.220 is going to actually do stuff to actually identify the players, take down the cells and actually

00:38:52.060 put, put people away who, who commit crimes out in the open in, in a riot, let's say.

00:38:57.080 So I would be, I don't know, that, that's, that's like kind of like my only, obviously my

00:39:01.560 only like thing of interest when it comes, when it comes to him, uh, when it comes to

00:39:05.800 just the, cause these are, these are organized groups to, to an extent, obviously there's

00:39:10.920 different levels, but they, they, they, they, they don't act just solely on impulse.

00:39:18.420 They, they, they, there's planning, there's preparation.

00:39:21.760 Um, it's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a real thing.

00:39:23.940 It's a real movement.

00:39:24.440 So, so when you look at like the, the pictures that, um, like say Andy Ngo puts up, he, he

00:39:31.500 gets a lot of the mugshots of Antifa members that are the people on the ground, that are

00:39:35.200 people actually doing the, the quote unquote dirty work.

00:39:38.380 Right.

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00:40:36.680 Are you tired of politicians who will do anything to get your vote only to sell out as soon as

00:40:41.600 they're elected?

00:40:42.480 Hi, I'm Mike Schreiner, leader of the Ontario Green Party.

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00:41:07.700 It can't help but like, it looks like, you know, the Joker's henchmen.

00:41:12.820 Central casting.

00:41:13.440 It does look like, they always look like they're, you know, they just got done booting up and

00:41:20.520 they're, you know, their, their eyes are, you know, that like, if it was not a freeze

00:41:25.040 frame, their eyes would be rolling around all the way.

00:41:27.420 They all almost always have the same look.

00:41:29.740 They look dirty.

00:41:30.540 They look, they look like they're kind of.

00:41:33.840 Mental unstable.

00:41:35.180 Which I think mental, I think mentally ill is, is, is an understatement.

00:41:38.680 But like, clearly the people that actually will do the dirty work are, are people that

00:41:46.620 are on the margins of society.

00:41:47.780 The people that are possibly homeless, that are addicted, um, that are unhappy people.

00:41:53.740 And this is something that I say a lot on the show, like the left needs unhappy people

00:41:57.400 because happy people don't engage in revolutionary activities.

00:42:00.840 If you have something to lose, you're not going to throw a brick through a cop car window.

00:42:05.360 You're just not.

00:42:05.980 You're like, if you, you're like, no, because if I do this, I'm going to get arrested and

00:42:09.020 I have kids at home or whatever.

00:42:10.400 So the left needs those people, but just like any other, and I guess for lack of a better

00:42:17.080 term, any, any terrorist organization, there are the people that actually carry things out

00:42:21.620 who are, you know, it's like criminal organization.

00:42:24.340 There are people that actually carry things out, which would be the street thugs or whatever.

00:42:27.100 But then there's another level above them that are actually directing them.

00:42:31.000 Those people would likely be considered activists.

00:42:33.200 They would be people that might have some kind of knowledge of leftist theory because

00:42:38.660 they're, they need to be able to tell the people on the ground why they're doing what

00:42:43.180 they're doing or what they, why they should do what they're doing.

00:42:45.500 Even if it's only to rile them up and get them excited.

00:42:48.100 The people that are, that are, that are at the protests kind of directing the crazies.

00:42:55.720 And then above that, there's the people that are funding it.

00:42:58.160 And there's, there's all kinds of, of, I don't know about evidence, but there's, there's

00:43:03.160 a lot of implication that things like NGOs and, uh, you know, well, you know, well-funded

00:43:11.600 organizations actually are doing what they can to, to support these people, whether it be

00:43:17.900 offering them bail money like Kamala Harris.

00:43:20.740 Is it your sense that someone like, I don't think that Kamala Harris got a part in, is

00:43:25.700 it your sense that it, that it's possible that the FBI or cash teller or, or, or whatever

00:43:32.720 would, would start directing their investigations towards the people that are funding riots,

00:43:38.340 people that are, that are funding these kinds of things, because it does take money to,

00:43:43.160 to, you know, a lot of the people that were in one protest in one part of the country

00:43:49.300 ended up at other protests in other parts of the country.

00:43:52.060 Tim has, Tim has talked about it.

00:43:53.520 He calls them tourists or whatever.

00:43:54.680 Yeah, the BLM snack van showed up.

00:43:56.240 Exactly my thought.

00:43:57.100 Exactly.

00:43:57.540 So, so those people aren't getting, you know, they don't have their, they're not independently

00:44:02.000 wealthy.

00:44:02.420 They're getting funded.

00:44:03.660 Do you think that it's possible that, that, uh, cash Patel would use RICO laws to try and

00:44:08.180 actually go after those people, which I would love to see personally.

00:44:11.040 Yeah.

00:44:11.520 Well, in addition to cash Patel, the difference between Trump's last term is that we, we no longer

00:44:16.220 have swamp donkey, Bill Barr as the head of the DOJ.

00:44:19.520 Yeah.

00:44:19.920 And Bill Barr's dad was the headmaster at Dalton, which is the school that hired Epstein with

00:44:24.320 no college degree as a math teacher.

00:44:25.740 It's like one of the best high schools in the country that all that to say that Bill

00:44:29.440 Barr is definitely a swamp donkey and he was protecting the swamp donkeys, in my opinion.

00:44:34.820 And now that we have never heard that one, never heard swamp donkey.

00:44:37.800 Oh yeah.

00:44:38.440 Oh, I've been in DC long enough to know what they look like.

00:44:40.720 Um, so now you have not only the FBI run by cash Patel, but the DOJ I think is going to

00:44:46.980 be working with the FBI in a way that it hasn't in the past.

00:44:50.460 And well, in the past they were working together, but they were working to keep all that stuff

00:44:54.160 under wraps.

00:44:55.660 So what are your thoughts on, on whether or not the FBI will or should go after the funders

00:45:04.560 of, of the, the riots and stuff like that?

00:45:07.260 Cause yeah, I mean, I, I mean the different, I mean, this, this Trump administration is

00:45:11.160 just way better just, I mean, in so many ways, but one of the ways is personnel.

00:45:15.240 I mean, Chris Ray was the one that said, and he initially said, oh, Antifa is not a movement.

00:45:21.600 It's an ideology, which is right.

00:45:24.340 But what, what an ideology does doesn't exist in a vacuum.

00:45:27.620 You have to have people to believe in it and promote it and to like carry out what they

00:45:33.140 believe in.

00:45:33.720 So it's not, you know, it's a movement.

00:45:35.420 It's a real, it's a real thing.

00:45:36.180 He later, you know, I think, I think it was during a, you know, congressional testimony

00:45:41.420 that he had to admit, okay, no, it is, it is made up of people, which is like, yeah,

00:45:46.240 no, you're like, duh.

00:45:47.680 So obviously Cash Patel is not, not that type.

00:45:50.480 Pam Bondi, the attorney general is, is not like a swamp donkey.

00:45:54.200 Yeah.

00:45:54.920 So I think, I think a lot, I think those people are going to be in for a rude awakening.

00:45:59.300 Um, what, once they do carry out something, obviously to the extent of which they are

00:46:05.340 going to act that that remains to be seen.

00:46:07.660 Um, but the, the, the, I, I just have a, I have a better, I have a better faith that

00:46:15.000 the federal government is going to do everything that they can to actually dismantle these types

00:46:19.380 of groups because that's what the people want.

00:46:21.420 I mean, a lot of people, when, you know, when they experienced 2020, it was a really

00:46:28.060 big wake up call.

00:46:29.380 I mean, we pay taxes because we expect these public services to be operational and not just

00:46:37.760 abandoned when things get tough.

00:46:39.780 And that's exactly what happened in a lot of places.

00:46:42.660 Um, and so, I mean, no one, no one would have thought that Kenosha would have been one

00:46:49.340 of the worst riots for that year in so many ways.

00:46:52.680 Right.

00:46:53.380 Um, but that's exactly what happened.

00:46:54.700 Right.

00:46:54.980 And, and because people weren't prepared yet, the Democrat governor, you know, dragging his

00:47:01.200 feet on sending in the national guard.

00:47:03.820 So it's just a lot of people are sticking to it.

00:47:06.540 I mean, anytime I, you know, make jokes about it being right season, a lot of people,

00:47:09.780 people are just saying, no, we're not going through that again, which is understandable.

00:47:12.320 Right.

00:47:12.600 I mean, it's not, it's not healthy for the country to constantly experience that.

00:47:15.640 But, um, so I think Trump understands that the Trump administration, the people that he

00:47:19.920 has understand that.

00:47:20.980 So should something happen, I think the hammer is going to come down on them a lot harder

00:47:24.380 than back in 2020.

00:47:26.000 For sure.

00:47:26.960 I definitely agree with that.

00:47:28.520 I do think like the sanctuary city stuff, I, I agree with you that the immigration issue

00:47:32.880 is going to be the hot button issue and it'll take some kind of moment, some kind

00:47:36.520 of instance of violence on behalf of ice or whatever it might be.

00:47:41.780 Um, I think things could change very quickly in those sanctuary cities once, you know, this

00:47:46.060 really, this really gets underway.

00:47:47.620 I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous right now because the main targets right now for,

00:47:54.520 for these raids are hardened criminals or gang members or people that you, you don't want

00:47:59.120 living next door.

00:47:59.800 And, and this is something that I've, I've, I've written about on my sub stack where the

00:48:04.740 Latino community is making the same exact mistakes as BLM did back, you know, five years

00:48:09.360 ago.

00:48:09.840 And that is they, they have an ends justifying the means policy and that means they're going

00:48:15.180 to, they're going to act out and do whatever.

00:48:16.600 But the difference is because like, remember I said, BLM had a 70% approved rating.

00:48:20.540 That's why they were able to kind of carry it on for, for, for as long as they were able

00:48:24.160 to, um, mass deportations have an over 30% approved rating.

00:48:28.240 So, so the Latinos who are, you know, burning the American flag, I, when I was covering

00:48:33.380 protests in LA, a high schooler stabbed another high school in the back, um, you know, doing

00:48:37.740 the street takeover, it's like acting, acting foolish, acting like a bunch of idiots.

00:48:41.440 I'm going to say it.

00:48:43.520 They're, they're, they're, they're only going to make mass deportations popular.

00:48:46.200 Like, I mean, why would you wave a Mexican flag or a watermelon flag in the United States

00:48:51.000 to advocate to stay in the United States?

00:48:53.160 If you were advocating for Mexico to take over America, okay, fine.

00:48:55.820 Like it's still done, but at least that makes sense.

00:48:58.060 But if you're going to wave a Mexican flag in the United States to say, no, we're staying.

00:49:02.880 Like what the, what the hell are you doing?

00:49:04.740 Yeah.

00:49:04.860 Is, is it your, both your sense that the, the American people are, are on the side of

00:49:09.860 deportations?

00:49:10.620 I, I, for now, for now, yes, that might change again, if something happens.

00:49:15.540 Right.

00:49:15.800 But, but for now, yes, but, and, and I think as, again, if, if these pro, these protests

00:49:20.800 that, that, and I have skin, I've literally have skin in the game on this, right?

00:49:23.880 Cause I look like them.

00:49:25.540 Um, they, they, they are, they are, they're shooting them.

00:49:29.800 They are, they're hurting themselves and the movement by acting that way.

00:49:34.120 They're, they, they are not making any sort of, they're not, they're not winning the public

00:49:39.280 relations battle right now because they're fighting deportations of people that are,

00:49:44.760 are, are like actual hardened criminals.

00:49:46.440 Yes.

00:49:46.600 Other people have been swept up just by proxy.

00:49:49.400 Um, but, and, and obviously I think as time goes on, yeah, anybody who was in the country

00:49:54.400 legally is going to, is going to be swept up, but you would think that you would want to

00:49:57.940 wait before you start saying like, you know, we need to stop deportations.

00:50:02.600 Like, really?

00:50:03.080 I want the Nde Aragua out of here.

00:50:04.760 Yeah.

00:50:05.620 You, you should too.

00:50:06.680 Um, so it's, it's, it's very, it's very interesting and it's frustrating personally

00:50:11.420 because it, what, cause what was the stereotype of, of illegal immigrants prior to, prior to

00:50:17.400 all this?

00:50:17.880 It was people that would come in on their own dime, um, make a better life for themselves,

00:50:22.780 put, you know, keep their head down and just provide for their families.

00:50:25.380 That was generally right.

00:50:26.760 That was a general stereotype.

00:50:28.380 Now it's people that just want handouts.

00:50:31.040 I mean, they, they get, they get taken care of every step of the way now from whatever country

00:50:35.760 origin, through Mexico and then the United States, then they get the hotels and everything.

00:50:39.760 And so they become entitled.

00:50:40.940 They, that, that's like one of the biggest things that I've heard recently within, within

00:50:44.460 the Latino community, within the immigrant community, that these new immigrants, they

00:50:48.700 are totally not like what people were, you know, they've been here for 20, 30 years.

00:50:53.500 They, they just want handouts.

00:50:54.800 A lot of them, not, not every single one of them, but just from my reporting.

00:50:58.080 Do you think that that's a phenomenon that is because of the last four years?

00:51:04.620 Oh yeah.

00:51:04.860 Do you think, cause I, cause it's my sense that the, that, that the general consensus,

00:51:09.260 like Julio was saying is, is that your average, you know, elite, whether they be a legal or

00:51:14.420 legal immigrant, average person, probably from somewhere in South America, they came here,

00:51:19.000 made it here and, and they just wanted to come here for, you know, to be able to work

00:51:23.100 and have a better life.

00:51:24.120 And I feel like that has changed significantly because of the, the border policies of the,

00:51:29.200 of the Biden administration.

00:51:30.260 What's your thought?

00:51:30.940 Well, we were at the border in March of 2021, uh, in outside McAllen at La Jolla.

00:51:38.200 And the thing that I recall the most from that was a people were coming in through the gaps

00:51:42.940 in the wall and B every single person who was coming across the border that we talked

00:51:48.920 to said, I said, are you, why are you coming right now?

00:51:52.000 They said, yeah, cause Joe Biden is president now and they knew that they were going to

00:51:56.280 get free flights to the interior of the country and that they were going to be able to basically

00:52:00.860 get the handouts that we're talking about.

00:52:02.740 So I think the difference, the, the, my question there is like, can we really blame those people?

00:52:08.620 Like those people, I'm not saying that they, you know, are like great people.

00:52:12.180 You can, they're breaking the law.

00:52:13.560 But with that being said, the Biden administration put a open for business sign on the Southern

00:52:20.980 border and they, not only that, they said, Hey, and to boot, we're going to give you guys

00:52:24.920 free flights to the interior.

00:52:26.180 We're going to put you up in a hotel for months and we're going to give you a prepaid credit

00:52:29.640 card and cell phones.

00:52:30.920 Yeah, no, it was a big, it was a big pull factor.

00:52:32.520 And that's what made the border crisis so egregious, just because yes, but just by the United States

00:52:38.140 being as is, thankfully it's still prosperous.

00:52:40.460 Mostly that is going to draw people to the country to come illegally, but then you don't

00:52:45.540 have to, the federal government shouldn't be encouraging that, which is exactly what

00:52:48.900 they were doing.

00:52:49.340 And then of course, then the sanctuary cities and the NGOs, by the way, these Catholic NGOs

00:52:54.120 that were in every one of these small towns, people might not realize there's no border

00:52:58.280 patrol hospital.

00:52:59.440 So this is all like local, uh, infrastructure that's taking care of this crisis at the border

00:53:05.340 of these small towns that are on the, along the border and it's the NGOs, like I noticed

00:53:10.580 in, in, uh, La Jolla specifically that there was a Catholic NGO that was literally housing

00:53:16.500 the people at the border until they were able to find whoever they were going to on the interior

00:53:21.540 of the country and then providing them with everything that they needed to leave the border

00:53:26.220 and go to the interior of the country.

00:53:27.620 So with respect to what you were saying earlier about the NGOs, I think that that's another place

00:53:31.900 to look for why is it that these charities are enabling this kind of stuff?

00:53:36.900 Is it your understanding that it's, that it is mostly charities because I feel like it

00:53:42.520 was a lot of actual, uh, fronts that USAID were involved?

00:53:46.940 Oh yeah, for sure.

00:53:47.940 They were, I'd say it'd be like, I'd say it's about 50%.

00:53:50.120 They'd show up with like instructions.

00:53:51.880 So these people were told exactly how to come up through Mexico and exactly what they had

00:53:56.320 to say at the border in order to claim asylum.

00:53:58.900 And that was like the UN had association USAID, certainly those groups were participating,

00:54:04.500 uh, in, in informing people on how to get across the border and how to game this system properly.

00:54:10.400 Yeah.

00:54:10.920 I, I, I find it, I find the, the, the revelations about USAID to be, uh, concerning to say the least.

00:54:21.500 And I think that they're, uh, it's, it's my understanding that they're, uh, that they're

00:54:26.220 a significant pro or they were a significant problem as to our whole border conundrum.

00:54:32.500 I've talked about the.

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00:55:31.040 Are you tired of politicians who will do anything to get your vote only to sell out as soon as

00:55:35.940 they're elected?

00:55:36.820 Hi, I'm Mike Schreiner, leader of the Ontario Green Party, and I'm here to say not all politicians,

00:55:42.020 at least not us. Greens don't have anyone to sell out to because we're powered by people,

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00:56:01.720 HHS program, the refugee resettlement program that would just, you know, if you could get to

00:56:06.680 the U.S. border and get across, all you had to do was say you were looking for asylum, which is

00:56:11.700 illegal. You're supposed to go to ports of entry if you're looking for asylum and claim asylum at a

00:56:16.560 port of entry, but you could, if you get across and just look for a border agent to pick you up and

00:56:20.560 say asylum, if you can articulate that one word, then you were set onto the refugee resettlement

00:56:27.880 program and you were going to get food and water and, like you both were saying earlier,

00:56:32.620 a nice hotel room, etc., and it doesn't matter if you can speak English or whatever, so.

00:56:37.220 And actually, now that you mention that, because just yesterday, the Trump administration is

00:56:42.480 canceling the temporary protective status of Haitians that have recently come across, and that,

00:56:49.180 I think, is actually going to be particularly a reactionary group because, obviously, they don't

00:56:55.600 want to go back to Haiti, and I would always hear from Border Patrol agents that if they ever

00:57:01.340 encountered a Mexican, they just give up right away. They're like, oh, okay, fine. Like, I'll go back

00:57:06.080 to Mexico. They had to be careful with Haitians, because Haitians would fight you.

00:57:10.940 Really?

00:57:11.320 Yeah, and actually, Todd Benzman, who's a good immigration reporter and analyst, he, because

00:57:19.420 everyone, because, you know, he had, like, Colombia complaining about, like, why are Colombians

00:57:23.700 handcuffed? Why are these people handcuffed on these deportation flights? He had a whole bunch

00:57:28.560 of cases where Haitians would, once they realized that they were going back to Haiti, they would

00:57:33.300 destroy the interior of the airplane, and the pilots were, like, cowering behind the locked

00:57:37.040 door. And then, I do remember there was that case when they landed, and they got the Haitians

00:57:42.220 out of the plane. They tried to go back in to hijack it. And then another plane came in,

00:57:45.980 and they tried to hijack that one. And it was, so, I think that has the potential to set up.

00:57:54.160 But, again, to your point, is that, like, yes, this, I'd say it was about 50-50. Like,

00:57:58.440 it's 50% the government directly, and then you have the other half indirectly through the

00:58:03.480 NGOs. But then it's, like, if you're being, like, mostly funded by the government, how

00:58:07.780 can you be a non-government? I mean, it's just by name only, because, like, sure, it's, like,

00:58:13.400 sure, like, obviously, it's not a federal employee doing it, but it's federal money anyway.

00:58:18.660 So, yeah, I mean, I think that that's the point of it, though, the whole, they're a non-government

00:58:23.780 organization, but they're getting federal funding, and they're not hired by the government.

00:58:28.760 They're not an actual bureaucracy, and that's all it takes. You can have endless amounts

00:58:32.280 of federal money granted to you or given to you in grants or whatever, and still be considered

00:58:39.140 an NGO, even though you're doing the deeds that the government wants because the government's

00:58:44.680 paying you the money, and so they, you know, I think that it is a misnomer. So, back to

00:58:51.360 the possibilities of unrest because of the summer and Kash Patel and et cetera. Like, we were

00:59:01.520 talking earlier about what kind of, or what the FBI is likely to do, and people in the U.S.

00:59:08.920 say, oh, well, you know, this will be bad, and there'll be this, this kind of violence, et cetera.

00:59:12.800 If the United States, if the American people have the stomach for it, I mean, Bukele down

00:59:18.280 in, I think it's El Salvador, right? Bukele has a blueprint on how to actually solve your

00:59:24.200 problem, your problems when it comes to criminals.

00:59:26.480 The root causes, so to speak.

00:59:28.160 It turns out, you round them all up and put them in effing jail, and-

00:59:32.560 You don't let them out.

00:59:33.400 Yeah, you don't let them out. And if you look at, like, the Trump administration has already

00:59:38.100 started sending people to Gitmo, I mean, that seems like a reasonable solution, in my opinion.

00:59:43.820 If these people are from out of the country, again, not American citizens, doing things

00:59:48.300 like taking over buildings, taking over, taking territory, and making essentially what amounts

00:59:55.120 to no-go zones, and I want you to talk about, you mentioned that there are already some places

00:59:58.720 that we consider no-go zones in California currently, and we'll get to that in just a minute.

01:00:02.780 But if that's an option that's on the table, which I don't see a reason why it's not, because

01:00:08.200 again, they're not American citizens, they're here illegally, and they're looking to actually

01:00:12.000 take over American territory, I think that that's a completely reasonable course of action.

01:00:18.520 Do you guys think that the FBI would do that? And then back to tie it into the whole topic

01:00:23.440 of the show, do you think that that kind of behavior of actual criminals would spawn significant

01:00:30.200 riots and significant protests and stuff?

01:00:33.260 Well, I definitely know that, so I was in Guatemala in 2023, and we went to a holding

01:00:40.060 cell there, and I was interviewing like 10 Afghani guys who had come over, they came on

01:00:46.580 a container ship from Africa to Brazil, then they came up through the Darren Gap, and I was

01:00:51.400 interviewing them in the jail cell, it's like this big open room with bunk beds, and as

01:00:56.720 I was interviewing them, I noticed a group of Colombians and a group of Venezuelans who were

01:01:01.060 like circling around, and like my radar went up of like, I don't want to let these guys,

01:01:05.060 I mean, literally in Guatemala, they were just like, hey, yeah, go into that jail and talk

01:01:08.000 to those people. Like there was nobody who was guarding me or anything like that.

01:01:11.300 And of course you went in.

01:01:12.500 Yeah, and yes, because I'm smart like that. And so I actually ended up sprinting out of

01:01:16.860 the jail cell. But all that to say that the people who were coming over previously, like

01:01:22.260 you were saying, they wanted to come and send money back to their families and eventually

01:01:26.060 bring their families up. And now what you have are actual hardened criminals who have

01:01:31.040 been coming over the border for four years. And the question is, is once they start getting

01:01:35.620 rounded up, once they get their backs against the wall, well, what's going to happen? And

01:01:39.760 I think in these sanctuary cities, you're going to see the local governments, the Democrat-run

01:01:43.920 governments fighting against the federal government coming in trying to round those people up. And

01:01:48.740 yeah, there could be plenty of chaos and violence.

01:01:51.320 These local governments have the capacity to fight the federal government and the criminals

01:01:55.380 at the same time?

01:01:56.720 Well, they don't have AR-15s.

01:01:58.100 Well, it's interesting because when ICE did that giant sweep in Aurora a couple of weeks

01:02:05.780 ago, it actually was a failure because they got a heads up that there was going to be

01:02:12.200 a roundup soon. A lot of them left.

01:02:15.260 Yeah, the whistleblower.

01:02:16.340 So right now, it appears that they're just going to go underground. They're going to go to

01:02:22.220 ground and just kind of see if they wait it out. But yeah, eventually, that's the concern,

01:02:26.980 especially with leaks, right? That, you know, they might want to do like a last stand type

01:02:33.160 situation. And again, this is, I mean, it's hard to truly like game it out because it's so

01:02:38.220 unpredictable. But I think, and that's why, but then that's why it's funny when leading up to Trump

01:02:46.120 getting back into office, you had people saying, you know, the sanctuary city is saying, no, we're

01:02:50.880 going to, we're going to fight back. You know, we're not going to allow this. And like Denver's mayor

01:02:54.800 had, literally said, everybody's going to use the police to stop them at the county line.

01:03:00.180 But then as soon as like, okay, well then you're going to lose your funding. And then they started

01:03:03.460 singing a different tune. So I, at a minimum, you know, at a minimum, they're going to just not

01:03:08.600 help. They're not going to help the, they're not going to like, you know, Florida, my home state,

01:03:13.660 they, they just passed a law requiring a certain number of, of officers within police forces

01:03:20.900 to be ready to be assigned to help, uh, ICE. And, and really that obviously the federal

01:03:29.740 government has vast resources. Obviously it has the ability to carry out, uh, a lot of

01:03:34.500 people, a lot of removals, but in order to really reach numbers that people really want

01:03:39.380 to see, it's going to have, it's going to have to fall on the states too, to actually do

01:03:43.240 more than just not get in the way. They actually have to go out and help because they do have

01:03:47.520 the local intel. They do know their communities better. Uh, but obviously not every single

01:03:51.380 state is going to do that. Right. I can see Texas doing that and other, other red states.

01:03:56.680 Uh, but it's, it's going to, it's going to take more than the federal government to, to

01:04:01.980 reach those numbers.

01:04:02.920 Yeah. I have a friend who was a prosecutor in a county surrounding DC and one of these

01:04:08.100 sanctuary counties. And it's just, he was infuriated. He, he originally was like, came into

01:04:14.680 that job coming from the left and it immediately changed his perspective when he saw these heart,

01:04:20.700 like MS 13 gang members who they, they knew that they were in jail and they were told it

01:04:26.920 was, it was policy not to inform ice that they were in a holding cell. And so the MS 13 dudes

01:04:34.120 would then get let back out into the streets, uh, without federal charges, without ice coming

01:04:38.860 in. And they would be like laughing at the prosecutors being like, Oh yeah, see, they

01:04:44.780 let me right back out. So that's obviously going to, I think with, if you use my buddy

01:04:50.920 as a proxy, he went from being a lefty to changing his views completely because he was like, this

01:04:56.020 is completely insane. So you can only have that insanity persist for so long before normal

01:04:59.820 people are just like, yo, this isn't absolutely wild.

01:05:02.740 I agree with you, but doesn't that take the experience? And when I say the experience, I don't,

01:05:06.800 I, I don't know that the average person that would go ahead and say, Oh, get on the internet

01:05:11.940 and say, Oh, this is messed up. They, they don't experience, they don't see that. They

01:05:15.540 don't have the actual, the realistic experience of it to them. It's just, you know, it's just

01:05:20.300 another, um, anecdote. Yeah. It's your typical lefty. Who's like, you know, they just do it

01:05:24.700 because it's virtuous. And that goes back into the peer pressure associated with BLM, but the

01:05:29.160 immigration issue, unless you've been down to the border and you've seen the situation

01:05:32.700 down there, it, it wasn't until they started arriving by the tens of thousands and hundreds

01:05:38.180 of thousands in all of these left-wing cities. I think my favorite article of the last four

01:05:42.760 years, it was a New York post article about all of these, uh, Williamsburg residents in

01:05:49.220 New York, which is, which is in Brooklyn. It's like the night, it's like more expensive than

01:05:52.040 Manhattan. Now they were infuriated because their dog park was being used for, uh, to house

01:05:58.980 these migrants. And so it wasn't until that finally happened once they were actually in their

01:06:02.240 backyard that they were like, wait a second. So I do think that the issue has gotten so

01:06:06.100 bad where average people are like, okay, well maybe virtue, you know, it's a little

01:06:10.840 bit different when actually the pragmatic reality is that your own city is getting

01:06:14.720 destroyed by, um, a massive flood of people who, uh, yeah, just want to stay in the

01:06:20.000 Roosevelt hotel. There was a, there was a video that was circulating a couple of weeks

01:06:23.760 ago. Um, and I, I think it was an AJ plus podcast, um, from where this interview was

01:06:30.360 taking place. And, and this woman, she was, she was saying that Mexico can't absorb all

01:06:35.720 those deportees. They can't absorb all those millions of people that are coming back all

01:06:39.400 of a sudden. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:06:40.900 You don't say.

01:06:41.960 Like really? Like that's, that's interesting. I, um, that, that, thank you. Thank you for

01:06:48.080 making that point. And that's why it's also funny because, because you had like Mexico's

01:06:51.400 president as well, referring to the Mexicans that are, are in the United States as Mexicans,

01:06:57.660 right? They, they, they, they just view them as scenery to shine bomb, right? Yeah. So

01:07:03.440 it's, it's, it's, it's just, it's just funny that, but you know, they're Mexicans, but we

01:07:09.420 want to keep them in the United States. And obviously I think that's just because of

01:07:11.600 remittances. Um, Mexico's economy is like, has a lot, there's a lot of money in that

01:07:16.040 too. So that's, that's why there's so much pushback. It's not just, oh, cause Trump is

01:07:20.120 being racist. Uh, yeah. I mean, every, every country that has, you know, a sizable

01:07:24.800 population, uh, or a sizable plurality of their population in the United States

01:07:29.560 working and sending American dollars back, that's a significant, uh, economic

01:07:34.580 incentive, isn't it? Yeah. And actually the, the, the bill that, that the Florida

01:07:38.480 state house passed that it didn't, the, the bill that Governor DeSantis initially

01:07:42.300 proposed that it actually, uh, it wasn't a tax on remittances. It was requiring people

01:07:47.840 who were sending remittances back to, uh, provide proof of U S citizenship, um, at, at

01:07:53.820 these financial institutions, you know, it's a step in the right direction. Um,

01:07:56.960 unfortunately that for whatever reason, and again, I think it's cause of the

01:07:59.660 money talks, uh, that wasn't included in the, in the, in the final bill. So, um,

01:08:03.300 they, they're promising that they're going to address that later on down the

01:08:05.800 road. But the fact that we don't even tax remittances is. Yeah. 24% of El

01:08:09.940 Salvador in 2023, 24% of El Salvador's GDP was remittances. Yeah. Wow. But you

01:08:16.920 want to, I mean, you want to, you want to fund all the, all your little pet

01:08:20.180 projects. There you go. Yeah. Well, I lived in Amman, Jordan in the Middle East. One

01:08:24.140 sixth of their GDP is foreign aid from the United States. Yeah. So, I mean, which is

01:08:28.140 not saying much, it's not like they have a crazy big GDP, but it's like $600 million

01:08:31.300 a year. Yeah. And I mean, before, aside from Afghanistan and now Ukraine, uh, the

01:08:38.980 number one recipient of military aid from the United States was Israel. And number

01:08:42.380 two was Egypt. It was like 3 billion and 2 billion. So it's like, it's crazy that you

01:08:47.680 would have a conflict over there. And not only are we funding one side, we're

01:08:51.420 funding both sides. And to play both. So we come out on top. Yeah, I guess so. I

01:08:55.540 mean, it's, or, or American citizens just end up on the bottom. Yeah. It's typical

01:08:58.980 that the U S does, you know, funds both sides of, of whatever conflict. Uh, and

01:09:03.880 because I'm getting them, the emails, you gotta file your taxes. And I don't really

01:09:07.420 want to actually, like even more. So I don't really want to really, I don't want to do

01:09:12.120 turbo tax right now or our block or whatever. Yeah. I, I, I imagine the average

01:09:18.140 American, you know, right now they're hoping for some kind of movement on taxes

01:09:21.840 because, uh, with all the talk for the IRS, but, um, that's another topic for

01:09:26.120 another time. So the, the, the riot season that we're looking at this year, it kind

01:09:32.960 of feels like, well, I mean, clearly you're hoping for something interesting. I'm

01:09:37.740 bored, man. I've been bored for a while. I just pretend to be in retirement. Yeah.

01:09:41.720 This guy, this guy, every time I, every time I post about it, he goes, Oh, I'm

01:09:44.800 retired. It was like, stop freaking lying. It's like Tom Brady, you know,

01:09:48.100 you're retired. Cause it's just like, it's like football. Yeah. Don't get

01:09:51.940 me wrong. I mean, I was cold covering the inauguration protest and that was like

01:09:54.560 absolutely nothing happened on that. And so it was kind of, yeah, I mean, well

01:09:58.000 then I was surprising. I was surprised by that. Well, it was, it was really cold.

01:10:01.220 Yeah, it was really cool. Like I know people were talking about security with

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01:11:35.280 Also, it was, it was really, really cool. It was cold. It was the coldest it's been

01:11:39.480 in DC since 1988 is what the, uh, is what I saw. Right. Yeah. Cause it was, it was the

01:11:44.540 windshield too. Yeah. I mean, a lot of people were making a whole big deal about

01:11:47.660 it because they were like, Oh, look at Donald Trump is weak and he's a pussy and

01:11:51.480 we're going to go ahead and talk to talk about him because it's cold out and

01:11:54.660 blah, blah, blah. But it's like, I don't see you out there. Yeah. Obama's first one was

01:11:57.900 pretty cold. I was there as actually, cause you were, I ended up. Yeah. Cause you were

01:12:03.560 open change and I was like, okay, hope, hope, open change folks. Nope. Nothing

01:12:08.480 changed now. But, uh, yeah, I was at Obama's first inauguration and it was

01:12:13.060 definitely cold, but nobody shot Obama in the ear prior to that before. And Reagan

01:12:19.040 was the last time that it was inside. And that was a couple of years after

01:12:21.500 Reagan's assassination attempt. So even if it were inside for those reasons, I would

01:12:25.340 say that that's justified. So everyone's like, Oh, he's a wuss.

01:12:27.900 It's like, well, uh, same thing with the, um, uh, the Bible. So St. John's

01:12:34.180 church that whole weekend before that, like all of the left wing media, CNN

01:12:39.820 were saying, Oh, Trump is such a wuss for going into the bunker. And it's

01:12:43.260 like, uh, the secret service were up on the roof and I've talked to guys who

01:12:46.000 were there that night and they were like ready for them to overrun the front

01:12:49.280 lawn. And, and if that had to happen, then there would have been a lot of, a

01:12:53.360 lot of people that took rounds. Yes, exactly. Cause the secret service, if

01:12:57.060 people don't realize how close that was to happening. Yeah. I mean, the secret

01:12:59.900 service is overwhelmed. They're getting bricks thrown. There were dozens of them

01:13:02.620 that were injured and it's like, uh, isn't that warranted to put the president

01:13:05.860 into the bunker? Like, isn't that what, at that point, the president doesn't have a

01:13:09.260 choice. There is a point, there is a level, a certain threshold that once it's

01:13:13.240 met, the president doesn't get to tell secret service what to do anymore. The

01:13:17.540 secret service is like, no, Mr. President, we're running the show right now until the

01:13:22.680 situation has, has been, is under control again. Um, but the, you know, the, the, the

01:13:28.500 leftist media isn't going to ever, I mean, they, that was their, I mean, that was an

01:13:32.500 insurrection. Clearly, clearly. That was an attempt. I would argue that neither of them

01:13:36.340 were an insurrection. Well, no, no, I know. But just using, using, using the,

01:13:39.460 yeah, yeah. Crying Adam Kinzinger's, uh, you know, emotional outburst. Cause you can say

01:13:45.040 the same thing about the Portland courthouse cause it's, it's a rebellion against the, the

01:13:48.280 federal government, obviously not, not the Capitol building, but it's still federal

01:13:51.880 government property with federal agents. And how many, how many nights was the

01:13:54.680 Portland courthouse under siege and siege is legitimate. They were a hundred over

01:13:58.520 a hundred. Yeah, it was, it was for a while and, and, and, and they, they

01:14:02.520 continued because they, once they were done with the federal courthouse, they went

01:14:05.920 back to, uh, targeting the, uh, the Portland police precincts. So it, so it, it was,

01:14:13.080 yeah, it went for very long. I mean, it was crazy, like straight up garbage fires every

01:14:17.220 single night. I'd be like, I'd be like sitting around a garbage fire, like talking

01:14:21.120 to these dudes, like trying to get, you know, some semblance of why they were out

01:14:25.680 there. And it's like, literally we're right in front of the Portland courthouse

01:14:28.620 on the street in front of it. And we're around a garbage. I definitely lost years

01:14:32.320 off my life, breathing in whatever plastic was burning. I'm not even kidding

01:14:35.880 you. Uh, the, there was a moment where in the plaza, so they would use saws like

01:14:43.420 actual metal saws, saw open the fence. Yeah. It ripped the fence open and they go

01:14:48.700 into the plaza and light a garbage fire. And it's like the first night that I was

01:14:52.480 there, a dude threw a plastic flan, a fan into the flame. And I was like, I guess

01:14:57.120 that's a new definition of fanning the flames there.

01:15:00.120 Well, when I was there, cause the people, people would, would try to, cause as, as I

01:15:04.840 found out they had the, the, the, the, the cops had slits cause obviously the whole

01:15:08.800 thing was locked down, but they had slits. So they would shoot pepper balls at, at

01:15:12.280 anybody who, who had, who had broken through the fence. Oh, I got hit with a

01:15:14.760 couple of those. So, so people would, would, would, would go into the fence and

01:15:18.100 would basically just try to do like a, like a hundred yard dash, try just, just,

01:15:22.420 just, just to, just to mess with the, just to see if they could do it. Just to see

01:15:25.100 if they could try to run through the gauntlet without getting shot. It was like

01:15:27.860 the idiot Olympics. I remember Shelby had the funniest. It was a Shelby

01:15:32.240 Talcott who was out there when we were working at the Daily Caller. Um, there was a

01:15:36.980 guy who had a lacrosse stick and he like caught one of the tear gas

01:15:41.560 canisters and he threw it back over with, with his lacrosse stick and he

01:15:46.400 like raised it as if he had just scored a goal and won the championship and

01:15:49.560 everyone was like, yeah, it's like the idiot Olympics. Frickin' lax pros, man.

01:15:53.580 We get it. You played lacrosse. The idiot Olympics is good. Um, but if, if, if

01:15:59.500 there isn't, or, or if, if the FBI doesn't have the wherewithal to actually go

01:16:06.220 after the, the NGOs, do you guys have a sense that there is still that kind of,

01:16:11.380 you know, the, the kind of infrastructure necessary to, to gin up the, the kind of

01:16:17.020 riots that we saw in, in 2020? I, cause again, I don't think that, I don't think

01:16:22.620 that the, the motivation is there. I think that it would take something like George

01:16:28.240 Floyd being killed, um, to get that. And I think that, I think that it was unique.

01:16:33.520 Like, like you said, we mentioned COVID and we mentioned that, and I don't think

01:16:36.460 the left has that kind of influence anymore either. I think the American

01:16:39.460 people have, have got a sense that, that the left is actually a problem. And

01:16:44.040 that's why you see so many people that are no longer afraid to say, yeah, you

01:16:48.800 know what? I think Donald Trump is okay. Not just, again, not even just to be like,

01:16:52.440 oh, I'm, I'm a big Trump supporter, but yeah, he's probably not a Nazi, which is

01:16:57.540 now a brave state, which used to be a brave statement, but now it's, I think that it's

01:17:01.160 actually fairly normal. Now it's just Elon Musk. No, I, again, I think, I think at a

01:17:10.640 minimum, I think at a minimum, the, the, the, I think I would say the motivation is

01:17:17.080 there because we're, we've already seen protests and some of them have gotten out

01:17:20.120 of hand. I mean, Glendale, you know, right next to Phoenix, they had the, someone stole

01:17:24.160 a cop car and took it for a joy ride during, during one of these things. So

01:17:27.880 it's, yeah, it's not to the level of 2020 and I, I, I don't want to make a hard

01:17:33.260 prediction of like, yes, it is going to, but I just, the conditions are, are, are, are

01:17:38.180 there. The conditions are there for, for, for something to kind of ignite. You know,

01:17:46.440 again, I think, as I was saying earlier, with, with how the current protests are right

01:17:50.360 now and with how public opinion is not with them, the majority of public opinion,

01:17:56.340 they have an uphill battle. So it would have to be something particularly egregious.

01:18:01.480 Yeah. Well, you would need another chaotic event to take place. Like maybe not

01:18:05.320 necessarily something like COVID, but you have to ask the question of how much money

01:18:09.440 is at stake. And, and these people who have been running the government in, uh, on behalf

01:18:14.980 of the Uniparty for 40 years, I mean, they have done seriously bad things.

01:18:19.580 Wait, what?

01:18:20.620 Huh?

01:18:21.220 And the government?

01:18:21.620 Oh yeah. Yeah. No, the government.

01:18:22.700 Oh damn. Okay.

01:18:23.420 Um, but, and that's the problem that I've always had with.

01:18:26.600 I thought we were the Avengers.

01:18:28.200 With the conversation around, it's like either America is inherently the best country

01:18:32.120 ever, or they have committed sins in the past and they're terrible. Well, you can have

01:18:37.240 the greatest country ever that also has done not so great things.

01:18:40.560 Yeah. And I, I now see more political will on the right towards understanding that. And

01:18:48.320 I think it has evolved now to the point where like people who voted for Trump are ready to

01:18:52.700 see where the bodies were buried. And that's what I'm looking forward to because, uh, you

01:18:58.080 know, ever since I was a kid, I've been looking into the Kennedy thing and it's, it's thanks.

01:19:01.940 That's say the least. Pretty sure George Bush was there.

01:19:06.460 George Bush himself. Um, he was, dude, Arbor Bush said they were there.

01:19:14.280 It was the second shooter on the Plaza. How old was George Bush then?

01:19:18.520 So he became, uh, he was in his twenties. And then right after that, he became the youngest,

01:19:23.500 uh, director of the CIA. And according to, according to the record, George Bush was not

01:19:29.800 in the CIA at the time that the Kennedy shooting took place. But there are documents that were

01:19:35.280 released. Which was the second shooter? Uh, I don't think that he was, but he would be

01:19:39.140 like the guy who was overlooking things to make sure they went. Oh, so you're saying he

01:19:42.380 was in the book depository. I don't even think, I don't even think, I don't even think Oswald

01:19:46.840 was in the book depository. I think it was one of the Patsy, one of the guys who was a lookalike.

01:19:51.140 There were multiple Oswald lookalikes and I don't even think he ever even spent one shift

01:19:55.820 in that book depository. And, uh, he, I mean, he was definitely in the theater where they

01:20:00.240 found him afterwards, but he was bewildered. And I think if he hadn't been in the depository,

01:20:05.060 you wouldn't have seen that reaction from him. I think you're really into the whole CIA kind of

01:20:09.880 did the Kennedy thing. CIA, the mob, uh, rogue elements of both organizations. But I do think

01:20:17.000 if George Bush was there, then maybe it wasn't as rogue as we thought.

01:20:22.280 I don't know that I have an opinion on, on whether it actually, I, I think that I'll be the,

01:20:27.620 I'll be the Norman Rockwell painting guy just standing up. I don't care. I do. I do not care

01:20:32.720 about this right now. I mean, well, I mean, not only it's, it's, it's interesting to read about

01:20:36.180 it or wrong, but it's not, I just, I don't care. I think, I think that I do agree with you. I think

01:20:41.660 that when it comes to the average American, I think that whoever actually did kill JFK, I don't think

01:20:49.000 that the average American is going to be like, Oh, this is life shattering. This changed the boomers

01:20:53.380 because they love them so much. I mean, maybe, maybe it's their generation. You know, they

01:20:57.940 remember it when they were, they were little and stuff, but, um, and I think that everyone

01:21:02.620 kind of agrees that the CIA has done nefarious things for just about its whole existence and

01:21:08.740 they probably wouldn't put it past. I mean, look after Bay of Pigs, when Kennedy was like,

01:21:14.320 yo, we got to get out. These guys got to go. Yeah. He's like, man, someone's got to go.

01:21:18.840 You know, I, I think that someone is to mention operation Northwoods where they wanted to use

01:21:24.340 remote controlled planes to blow up buildings and catalyze people to invade Cuba. Yeah. You know,

01:21:29.000 I mean, they were, they were, they were legit after, uh, after Castro and man, those scars are

01:21:34.280 to die for. So, you know, well, my question is, is with, with respect to Epstein, how is it that we

01:21:41.180 have gone through all this time and not a single person who was on that client list has been prosecuted?

01:21:45.380 Well, not only that, but the, and I, I, I guess I agree with you, but not only that, the, the fact

01:21:52.080 that the judge said, no, it's too volatile to release. Yeah. Well, cause you had, you had Acosta

01:21:57.760 like if we tell everybody, you guys are going to be real busy for the next year. Well, you remember

01:22:04.380 and that's, that's the distinction that I'm making between Trump 1.0 and Trump 2.0. You had Alex Acosta

01:22:09.120 who was the prosecutor in Florida who gave Epstein that sweetheart deal where he was technically in

01:22:15.320 jail, but he could like get massages while he was in there. And not to mention that was in like 2008.

01:22:21.040 And then all these people like Bill Gates are still visiting with him afterwards. I'm pretty

01:22:24.680 sure if you get accused of that kind of crime, like even if you got a sweetheart deal, um, I

01:22:29.360 wouldn't be hanging out with that dude. I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't hang out with Epstein

01:22:32.980 at all. I mean, I think if you, if you, if you look at it in that way, then you're like,

01:22:37.060 okay, if, if Bill Gates was one of those people, there are a lot of really powerful people whose

01:22:41.300 names are on that list. Did, did, did Clinton's tour of Africa with Epstein? Was that before

01:22:46.640 or after? Uh, Clinton's tour with, of Africa was in the nineties. It was in the nineties.

01:22:50.340 Um, and that was with, uh, Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker, which is like, wait, what? Chris

01:22:56.700 Tucker was on the plane. What are you, what the heck? Yeah. Yeah. Chris Tucker was on the

01:23:01.080 plane. Yeah. Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth? Don't nobody understand

01:23:10.460 the words. It's a great movie though. Chris, she's only five. All right. So I'm not saying

01:23:18.080 he is. I'm just making jokes here just to be clear. I mean, the thing is when he's talking

01:23:22.540 about Epstein or Epstein Island and stuff, that kind of stuff kind of, you, you assume

01:23:27.820 the worst. I was talking about that in 2015. I was like, there's an Island, this guy named

01:23:33.060 Jeffrey Epstein. I was telling all my friends from home. I remember Thanksgiving 15 and 16.

01:23:36.460 How'd you find out about it? Because I was on the dark corners of the internet where that

01:23:40.400 kind of conversation takes place. And people noticed that there were like, do you mean 4chan?

01:23:44.820 I was about to say 4chan. No comment. No comment. I, I, I don't reveal

01:23:48.020 my sources. Um, but all these Anons were like, not only is there this Island, there's, there's

01:23:55.260 this woman who went by the name of, uh, Ray Chandler and look, I don't want to, I hope

01:23:59.780 I don't get like a, uh, uh, I don't, yeah. I don't want a cruise missile to come through

01:24:03.980 the, uh, yeah. Once you walk outside, I mean, but she had photos that were tagged on Epstein

01:24:10.240 Island of a surveillance system that showed people. It was very hard to tell cause it was pixelated

01:24:15.920 and black and white, but naked people inside of what looked like a prison cell. And the people

01:24:22.220 put, went through her Instagram and, um, they started looking at Epstein Island on Google earth.

01:24:28.680 And they're like, why are there industrial ventilation systems on this Island? What,

01:24:32.760 what is this temple? And all my buddies are like, you're crazy. And then like a couple of years later,

01:24:37.100 I was like, I told you guys, I told you that's gotta be, I mean, that's gotta be a, a real heavy

01:24:46.080 kind of, I told you so. Yeah. Yeah. Well, because nobody wants to believe that it's real. And that's

01:24:51.000 ultimately, and I don't blame people for being like, look, I just want to go about my life

01:24:54.300 and I don't, I don't care. But like, if you look at the Catholic church, for example, if it was not

01:24:59.660 only like, it was not only a place where that kind of stuff was overlooked, but it was actually that

01:25:04.840 if you share that dark secret with somebody else, then that actually allows you to be elevated

01:25:09.960 within that hierarchy because the only person, you know, you can trust is somebody who you have

01:25:15.140 dirt on. So I think that if you use that as a proxy, then we've seen something similar happen

01:25:20.380 within, uh, the darker elements of our government. And you know, the people who were the ones

01:25:26.300 participating in this kind of stuff are the ones who were elevated through the hierarchy because

01:25:29.900 you know, you can trust somebody when you have dirt on them. And that's what it's all about.

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01:26:39.240 elected? Hi, I'm Mike Schreiner, leader of the Ontario Green Party, and I'm here to say not all

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01:27:03.320 of Ontario. Situation and it is interesting that the American people, specifically the people that

01:27:12.500 are prone to get excited in ways that you guys cover. It is interesting that that kind of stuff

01:27:24.860 doesn't really motivate most people. You know, you'll hear people talk about the wealthy and the

01:27:32.920 one percent. But since, you know, Occupy Wall Street, the behavior or misbehavior of the ultra rich

01:27:40.360 is is not enough to get the average person to get up off the couch. I mean, obviously, some people

01:27:48.120 will because you've got people like like Luigi that went and killed a dude that was in the grand scheme

01:27:53.500 of things, not really particularly rich. Like you'll hear them say, oh, the billionaires, the billionaires,

01:27:58.200 this guy was worth maybe $40 million. And there is a significant difference between 40 million and a

01:28:05.340 billion. But, you know, the billionaires in the top top zero zero one percent, those are the people

01:28:12.700 that end up getting discussed. But then they go and they kill the people that are worth 10, 20, 30

01:28:18.100 like the middle management in the grand scheme. It's very, very convenient the way that that all went

01:28:22.860 down. I'm not saying. I'm not saying. I mean, George Bush was doing MK Ultra in the 70s. And I

01:28:29.820 mean, I'm just saying with whether it's Thomas Crooks or Luigi Mangione, you know, it's not

01:28:35.160 necessarily about whether or not the people being targeted are on the left or the right. It's about

01:28:38.920 sowing the seeds of chaos, because if you want to rule over one of the biggest democracies in the

01:28:43.240 world, well, then you have to keep the population divided. And so that's what I've been saying since

01:28:47.380 Trump got involved. Well, hold on, hold on. Democrats are saying we don't, we're no longer

01:28:49.820 a democracy. Well, because Elon Musk is cutting. Well, well, that goes into my point, though,

01:28:54.720 that I think, you know, with Trump back in office and MAGA now being mainstream, I do think

01:28:59.900 it behooves the right to a certain extent to reach out that hand and have the conversation

01:29:04.740 with despite the fact, look, I get it. I got dragged plenty of times. Yes, I've been through

01:29:10.980 the mud. And but, you know, I'm still willing to say, hey, well, you used to think that you're

01:29:15.900 an idiot. Yeah, you called me all these names. But like, let's have a conversation

01:29:18.900 now. Let's turn a new new side of the coin here. Come on. Well, I mean, so are you saying

01:29:24.720 that the there's more to the Luigi story than just Luigi was was inspired to go after a rich

01:29:31.820 guy? Because if you look at the sentiment that the left's that the the art the arguments the

01:29:36.320 left makes and things that you see, there are people that are calling for the death of Elon Musk

01:29:41.960 because he's assumed out in the streets. Yeah, because he's assumed to be somehow in a puppet

01:29:49.440 master of Donald Trump, which is I personally I think it's ridiculous. But and there are people

01:29:54.520 that are always calling for the death of billionaires and the expropriation of their

01:30:00.420 property because they're an easy you know, they're an easy scapegoat, even though people

01:30:06.360 don't seem to understand that like the billionaires that own multiple companies like they're the ones

01:30:13.060 that they're the reason why a lot of the why the people that work for them have jobs, right?

01:30:17.940 Like I firmly believe that it takes people and it's not a situation where everyone's a blank slate

01:30:24.180 and anyone that went through the same circumstances would be able to do what Bezos or Musk or or

01:30:29.820 the Waltons or whichever billionaire you decide you dislike. It's the decisions those people make and

01:30:36.440 that that is unique to those people. It's not the way the left kind of characterizes it where

01:30:42.060 anybody that was in that position would do that. And so it doesn't matter who it is that the

01:30:47.580 circumstances created the person. I believe the person creates the circumstances. And that being the

01:30:52.800 case, I think I think that that the way that the left portrays the wealthy put and and billionaires

01:31:00.980 and and by extension millionaires, because again, the way that people that are that are motivated by

01:31:08.180 this stuff, they perceive it as if he's richer than me or it looks like he's rich, then he qualifies.

01:31:15.060 So like I'm not even a millionaire, but there are people that are like, oh, well, he's Phil's rich.

01:31:20.260 So it's OK. It's bad that I was I was I was talking about the the possibility of the Doge

01:31:25.540 dividend and people like, no, well, you it's easy for you to say you're rich. And it's like, well,

01:31:29.720 I mean, I'm not broke, but I'm also not a millionaire or I mean, I'm not I don't have

01:31:33.980 millions of dollars in the bank. But to the people that are upset that I would say the Doge

01:31:38.900 dividend is bad, those people are looking at me and they're saying, well, he's a rich guy.

01:31:42.660 And they classify me with the CEO of the health care company that got murdered. And it's like

01:31:47.900 like he's worth 40 million. And even that is peanuts compared to someone that's worth one

01:31:54.440 individual billion dollars. Never mind someone like Bezos or Musk that are worth, you know,

01:31:59.480 whatever, 75 or 100 billion or whatever they happen to be worth. And I think the motivation

01:32:03.800 that those people have or the the. The driver is just envy. And I think that's that's enough

01:32:11.260 to to spawn people to do some. It's been put on steroids, too, because now with the social

01:32:15.500 media platforms, you can literally look at the life of every billionaire and every multimillionaire

01:32:21.240 celebrity. And, you know, they're putting filters on their content. And it's like the grass has

01:32:26.380 always been greener on the other side. But now you're getting slapped over the head with that

01:32:30.660 greener grass every single day, depending on what your social media feed looks like. But

01:32:35.500 regardless, everybody's presenting their own lives in the most positive light. And that actually

01:32:40.080 is not what their lives really look like. But what you're presented with on your feed

01:32:43.360 as you go through is just, you know, all these people who are richer than you, who have more

01:32:46.920 than you, who have a better job or whatever it is. And so it's like there's a spiritual

01:32:51.400 sickness that is pervades across both sides of the political spectrum where these.

01:32:57.540 So we don't want to get down with the sickness.

01:33:00.120 Yeah.

01:33:01.100 But I do think like and not to mention like pharmaceuticals and the fact that like, you know,

01:33:08.760 more people are have prescriptions for things like Adderall and Xanax. And like, it's, it's

01:33:15.080 pretty easy to, to like go down rabbit holes when you're jacked up on, on some Adderall.

01:33:19.200 Right. So I don't think.

01:33:20.220 I don't know. I wouldn't know, Richie.

01:33:21.600 I've tried it before.

01:33:22.700 I've tried it before.

01:33:23.440 Yeah.

01:33:23.660 It sounds like you're speaking from experience here.

01:33:25.040 I dabbled. Yeah.

01:33:25.680 I've gone down some rabbit holes.

01:33:26.540 That's why we love you.

01:33:27.060 Yeah.

01:33:27.380 Because you're, you're, you're, you're, you're our Steve-o.

01:33:29.600 That's, that's, you're our Steve-o.

01:33:31.200 Something, you know.

01:33:31.840 I'm retired.

01:33:32.260 I mean, it takes a little extra something to stay up all night chasing after crazy

01:33:37.660 people that are throwing Molotov cocktails, right?

01:33:39.520 That was mostly nicotine pouches, actually.

01:33:42.240 That was pure, I was pure adrenaline, baby.

01:33:43.980 Nicotine's a hell of a drug, man. I miss it.

01:33:45.620 It is. You got it right here. Hello.

01:33:48.680 Um, but so what are your thoughts on, you know, the, the narrative that's being spun and

01:33:56.280 how about the wealthy or Musk or, or, um, I think that the, the, well, what are perceived

01:34:03.440 to be wealthy, really, I guess it more boils down to income inequality, um, because relative

01:34:10.040 income differences are far more impactful than, than anything else.

01:34:16.220 Like if you, if you have a, a destitute poor population and then there's a dude that makes

01:34:22.580 enough money to pay for food and everyone around him doesn't have enough money to pay

01:34:27.420 for food, that dude might as well be a billionaire and the rest of the people around him are

01:34:30.600 going to hate his guts because he can pay for, even if he's living in a, uh, you know, you

01:34:35.720 could be living in a mud hut, but it's a mud hut that's got a bag of rice in it every day

01:34:39.660 and the people around him don't have a mud hut or don't have a bag of rice every day.

01:34:43.920 Well, they're going to look at him and they're gonna be like, I'm going to kill him because

01:34:46.780 he has more than me.

01:34:47.760 And in the United States, nobody in the United States is, is poor by any kind of global historical

01:34:54.060 standards, definitely not by global standards.

01:34:56.300 You, you make a dollar a day in some parts of the world and, and that's not even, or

01:35:02.960 that's the, the, that's what gets you out of abject poverty.

01:35:06.720 Um, I think the, the UN has said that by 2030, there will be no human beings in abject poverty

01:35:12.380 or, or a vanishingly small amount of the, the, the ability of, of markets to solve abject

01:35:21.820 poverty is, is no longer in question.

01:35:24.000 But here in the United States, you've got people that are like, well, I can't pay my

01:35:27.640 rent in New York and I can't pay for the new iPhone.

01:35:31.620 I've got an old, weird, you know, broken down phone from five years ago that, you know, the

01:35:37.460 camera doesn't work or, or whatever.

01:35:39.200 And so I feel like I'm poor, especially compared to people that have so much and those people

01:35:45.420 that are actually not really struggling to feed themselves will still feel like, you

01:35:52.540 know, I struggled to pay my bills.

01:35:53.960 So I'm justified in hating people that have, have more than me.

01:35:58.720 Do you, do you feel like that's enough to get people to, to get people into the streets

01:36:04.300 or what, what point do you feel like it actually becomes a problem where people are going to

01:36:08.580 say, you know, I'll go and I'll get into, go out and write it is.

01:36:11.740 Or is it just the temperature when it's warming up and they're bored?

01:36:14.420 I mean, I think it's a combination of that.

01:36:16.460 Um, because even because when Mangione was being extradited from, was it Pennsylvania, right?

01:36:24.700 You had like two people show up.

01:36:26.840 So there's a lot of online support.

01:36:29.180 And I think, and I think it's just in today's day and age, most people think that's enough

01:36:34.040 to just say, the annons.

01:36:35.660 Yeah.

01:36:35.900 Well, not even annons, but not even the annons, but yeah, just people from behind the keyboard.

01:36:39.240 Yeah.

01:36:39.500 Just people from behind the keyboard.

01:36:40.560 And obviously that, that's not, it's not just with that specific example, but that,

01:36:44.540 that was a, it was a good example because there was such widespread support online.

01:36:49.300 And so, um, I don't know if how that would translate necessarily into protest.

01:36:53.880 Maybe if he's found guilty.

01:36:55.360 Okay.

01:36:55.760 Then, then in that case, maybe.

01:36:57.540 Well, I got my broken iPhone right here.

01:37:00.040 I'm not, not, uh, like, uh, sitting on my high horse, like Phil over there, Mr. Uh, Mr.

01:37:04.700 Rich man.

01:37:05.180 I think we're, we're going to have to, we're going to have to occupy the compound.

01:37:08.060 I don't know.

01:37:08.340 You have, you have, you have, you have three.

01:37:09.800 I do have three lenses.

01:37:10.600 You have three lenses.

01:37:11.320 It is.

01:37:11.580 It is a, it is a max, but it is broken.

01:37:14.900 All right.

01:37:15.320 Small one, man.

01:37:15.940 All right.

01:37:16.220 And I got to pay rent in DC, not to mention the taxes and the parking tickets.

01:37:20.060 You've chosen to pay rent.

01:37:21.440 Yeah.

01:37:21.860 Well, you've chosen.

01:37:23.080 That's true.

01:37:23.660 16 years, but now they're trying to levy my taxes.

01:37:26.680 Cause of all my parking tickets.

01:37:27.900 They're going to take my refund.

01:37:28.900 How many parking tickets do you have?

01:37:30.500 Well, I got that car.

01:37:31.700 Enough to get the government after him.

01:37:32.720 I got my car out of the state.

01:37:35.020 It's mothballed somewhere else.

01:37:36.740 And I bought another car, but there are thousands of dollars.

01:37:40.360 There's some speed cameras involved.

01:37:42.560 I've been trying my best.

01:37:43.900 I may or may not have.

01:37:45.180 You're not telling a sympathetic story.

01:37:46.860 Yeah.

01:37:47.280 Well, no, but here's one thing I will say to the people.

01:37:50.060 I'm sure you don't need to talk to your lawyer.

01:37:50.960 If you guys, if even just 1% of the people watching this show would take it upon themselves

01:37:56.560 to go out, find the speed camera closest to their house and throw some spray paint on

01:38:01.840 that thing.

01:38:02.260 I'm not saying I've done that.

01:38:03.520 I'm not saying I've done that.

01:38:04.700 And I'm not saying that the camera next to my house has been raised up multiple times

01:38:09.160 over the last five years.

01:38:10.260 We hear it.

01:38:10.840 I get it higher and higher.

01:38:12.740 But am I not supposed to do that?

01:38:14.340 I'm not supposed to.

01:38:14.980 I can advocate for spray painting speed cameras, right?

01:38:18.180 Is that allowed?

01:38:18.520 No.

01:38:19.060 Okay.

01:38:19.400 Well, I just did.

01:38:21.760 Okay.

01:38:22.540 Well.

01:38:22.900 That is oppression right there.

01:38:25.320 They have stop sign cameras in DC now.

01:38:27.640 Look, you don't stop for three seconds, $100 ticket.

01:38:29.980 I am opposed to all forms of traffic cameras that are just giving out.

01:38:36.700 Let's make it hard for them.

01:38:37.820 That are just giving out tickets.

01:38:39.220 I'm also opposed to discussing vandalism of public property on the internet.

01:38:45.400 This is a low-level crime.

01:38:47.200 If it's under $1,500 in damage, it's not a felony.

01:38:50.100 Oh, my God.

01:38:51.800 Okay.

01:38:52.280 You got to move on.

01:38:53.660 All right.

01:38:53.980 Enough from Mr. Retired over here.

01:38:56.080 Yeah.

01:38:56.840 You're going to be retired to some kind of public service to pay your debt to society.

01:39:03.500 I don't even like airplanes anymore anyway.

01:39:05.160 I don't need to be.

01:39:06.100 I'm like, oh, my gosh.

01:39:08.660 That was my – because I fly – when I lived here in the area, I flew out of DCA all the time, not knowing that, oh, there's actually all these helicopter routes right around DCA.

01:39:18.080 It's like –

01:39:18.380 Yeah.

01:39:19.200 Whose idea was that?

01:39:21.400 The Pentagon's.

01:39:22.440 Yeah.

01:39:23.300 Yeah, clearly.

01:39:23.980 Apparently.

01:39:24.500 So, yeah.

01:39:27.120 I guess the FBI, with Kash Patel being the new head of the FBI, I would like to see actual attacking – going after people that are actually – a movement on the crime syndicates here.

01:39:50.420 And then also the NGOs that fund the type of behavior that leads to riots.

01:39:59.460 But I don't know –

01:40:00.660 I don't want that.

01:40:02.040 Well, I mean –

01:40:02.600 I don't want that to go away.

01:40:04.620 It's called job security.

01:40:05.740 It's called a livelihood.

01:40:06.780 Yeah.

01:40:07.220 What are you trying to do?

01:40:08.380 Are you trying to put me out of a job here?

01:40:09.340 I'm trying to save people.

01:40:10.800 I'm trying to save people's problems.

01:40:12.200 Look, there's no more border crisis.

01:40:13.860 There's no more riots.

01:40:14.840 Julio is going to be out in the streets.

01:40:16.260 I got to go to South Africa now.

01:40:18.560 You're going to be asking for some change.

01:40:20.200 Spare some change.

01:40:21.280 You're going to have to start writing more frequently as opposed to going out and getting weird.

01:40:25.000 But, I mean, that's the goal of the new administration, right?

01:40:29.280 Right.

01:40:29.740 To have society not be so volatile.

01:40:34.520 And I think that most Americans kind of want that too.

01:40:37.220 I mean, wouldn't that be something that – aside from, like, the adrenaline junkies such as yourself, you know?

01:40:43.320 Normal people.

01:40:43.880 Yeah, no, I mean, yeah, that's what people voted for because that was one of the biggest lies with the Biden administration, right?

01:40:49.660 Is that, oh, it's a return to normalcy.

01:40:51.440 It's a return to – or we're done with the chaos of Trump.

01:40:54.980 And it's – what are you talking about?

01:40:56.580 Things are continuing to go – like, sure, it's not the high-energy riots of 2020.

01:41:02.500 But there's, like, this low-intensity that's, like, just under the crust that you can feel, that you can see.

01:41:07.340 I mean, I just saw, like, today there's a video of a guy on the Metro in D.C.

01:41:12.880 He's getting jacked for his Canada goose jacket.

01:41:17.060 And then with, like, the Daniel Penny thing.

01:41:20.460 And, of course, there was – well, you just don't look at them in the eye.

01:41:23.120 You just avoid them.

01:41:24.360 It's like, well, that doesn't always happen.

01:41:26.300 Did either of you guys go to New York for any of the protests after Daniel Penny was found not guilty?

01:41:31.640 No, I wish I did.

01:41:33.480 I mean, that's an interesting – there's a lot of parallels between Daniel Penny and Kyle Rittenhouse.

01:41:37.900 Yeah, well, the reason I asked –

01:41:39.000 So you hate Daniel Penny, too?

01:41:40.020 I don't hate anybody.

01:41:41.640 I don't hate anybody, all right?

01:41:43.000 All right?

01:41:43.740 The reason I asked –

01:41:44.520 Do you think it's his fault?

01:41:45.500 I was on the stand, all right?

01:41:48.980 That's something that you would have assumed would have set people off if the energy was still there.

01:41:55.800 Well, so there were protests in the immediate aftermath of that incident, and they did kind of get out of hand.

01:42:05.060 But you're right.

01:42:06.180 It didn't reach to the same level as New York did back in – three years prior.

01:42:11.140 So, yeah.

01:42:12.800 And I think –

01:42:13.900 Do you think that it was because – do you think it was because there's a different temperature in the country?

01:42:17.260 Do you think that it was because it wasn't a police officer that actually did it?

01:42:19.800 Do you think it was because the people that were –

01:42:22.180 I think it was a combination of that.

01:42:23.080 But also because, like I said, BLM, they went from 70% approval rating in Pew Research in – what was it, I think, April or June of 2023?

01:42:32.540 It dropped down to, like, 50%.

01:42:34.000 I still think that's way too high.

01:42:35.460 50%?

01:42:36.080 50%, yeah.

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01:44:04.220 So, I mean, that's a pretty significant drop.

01:44:07.140 So, I think...

01:44:07.840 And that was this year?

01:44:08.920 Or last year?

01:44:09.580 No, no, no.

01:44:10.180 When, it was like right after the Daniel Penny.

01:44:12.760 Okay.

01:44:13.200 So, but that kind of bore itself out because the BLM protests after that incident weren't nearly as big.

01:44:21.120 They get a little ruckus, they get a little rowdy, and they went down into the subway and they started, you know, acting up.

01:44:27.580 But, yeah, if that happened in 2020, I think for sure New York would have gotten another round of things.

01:44:36.180 And because, I mean, a lot of the air was taken out after Derek Chauvin got convicted because people forget that there was that case in Columbus literally that day when the verdict was announced

01:44:47.760 that LeBron James will hopefully opine on where the girl was about to stab another girl and a white police officer stopped her from doing that.

01:44:59.880 And I was thinking, oh, shoot, I might have to go to Columbus, Ohio now.

01:45:03.660 Nothing happened.

01:45:04.580 So, there's been multiple cases where...

01:45:06.380 Is that the basketball player?

01:45:08.240 LeBron James?

01:45:08.920 The Asian cop who got attacked?

01:45:10.560 No, no, no, no.

01:45:11.800 No, there was...

01:45:12.840 I think it was a party and a black girl was trying to stab another black girl.

01:45:16.080 Yeah.

01:45:16.280 Yeah, and so...

01:45:17.740 There's video of it.

01:45:18.680 It's pretty...

01:45:18.980 Yeah, the body camera footage.

01:45:20.200 Yeah, so there have been cases since then where, again, it's either a justified police action or unjustified police action, and nothing's happened.

01:45:31.420 The closest thing to protest was after...

01:45:36.880 It was that case in Memphis when that guy got...

01:45:39.420 Yeah, they beat him up.

01:45:41.280 Basically beat him to death, but it was five black cops because it's Memphis, right?

01:45:45.260 But that's just the city's demographics.

01:45:48.560 And so, there were protests, and I covered that, but nothing crazy.

01:45:52.100 The one ingredient that we do have, though, is the economic disparity that you were talking

01:45:56.780 about earlier.

01:45:57.880 I think it's really interesting that Trump used this term, golden age, because the term

01:46:01.820 gilded age, the last time that the separation between the rich and the poor was as wide as

01:46:05.600 it is now, was during the gilded age.

01:46:07.800 And that was coined by Mark Twain, because what it referred to was something that was painted

01:46:11.480 with gold paint, but not actually gold on the inside.

01:46:14.540 So, it looked like it was gold, but all of these people were, you know, the railroad barons

01:46:19.740 and all that were making tons of money, and the worker was totally destitute.

01:46:25.300 And that was the last time that we had a major paradigm shift in the United States political

01:46:29.600 landscape.

01:46:30.700 People forget that William Jennings Bryan in 1896 was the Democratic nominee.

01:46:35.360 He lost to William McKinley, but he ran on this speech where he stole the nomination as

01:46:39.880 a 36-year-old at the DNC.

01:46:42.540 And he said, you will not crucify the American worker on the cross of gold.

01:46:45.880 And he wanted to go to the silver standard.

01:46:48.100 And that was what initiated...

01:46:49.100 Was that the guy that was giving away free silver?

01:46:51.320 I don't know if he gave it away.

01:46:52.820 I do know, like, William Jennings Bryan, he was very much a populist figure.

01:46:56.280 And he initiated the transition of the Democrat Party.

01:47:01.040 They had lost for, like, 40 years straight ever since the Civil War.

01:47:04.080 He initiated the transition of the Democrat Party from the Party of the South to the Party

01:47:07.300 of the Working Class.

01:47:08.460 And so, the Democrat Party that FDR inherited by the...

01:47:12.060 Why does he look like Brian Stelter?

01:47:14.200 Who, William Jennings Bryan?

01:47:15.060 Oh, he...

01:47:15.560 So, I thought William Jennings Bryan, he was this awesome populist, and then I found out that

01:47:18.640 he supported the Spanish-American War, and he was a total war hawk.

01:47:23.220 Some things never change.

01:47:24.480 Oh, he was the Secretary of State for Woodrow Wilson.

01:47:26.380 Woodrow Wilson was literally the worst president in history.

01:47:29.500 Yep.

01:47:30.400 So...

01:47:30.720 He was a big fan of the cinema.

01:47:34.700 I mean, well, so...

01:47:36.880 I'm glad you got that.

01:47:38.540 We're in the midst of another paradigm shift.

01:47:41.000 And as the sands shift, I mean, I think that's the interesting thing about being in D.C.

01:47:45.040 right now, is that it's difficult to even put your finger on what a Republican or a Democrat

01:47:49.460 is these days, because there's such a broad coalition...

01:47:52.340 Well, no, no, Democrats are wrong.

01:47:54.380 Okay, all right.

01:47:55.640 I'm registered independent, so...

01:47:57.680 If you're wrong, that's how you can tell someone's a Democrat.

01:48:00.480 Yeah.

01:48:01.300 Fair enough.

01:48:02.920 So, do you get...

01:48:04.340 Do you get a sense that there's a similar paradigm shift, that the...

01:48:08.040 That the arguments now are less Democrat and Republican and more populist and establishment?

01:48:16.300 I mean, I don't know.

01:48:19.340 I mean, to a point, yes, just because the...

01:48:25.480 I mean, Trump's recent victory, right?

01:48:27.100 I mean, it was...

01:48:29.000 They expanded their electorate.

01:48:32.040 All the border counties in Texas, except for two, went for Republican, which has never

01:48:41.260 happened before, I don't think, or at least it hasn't happened a very long time.

01:48:45.400 And even those blue counties, they didn't go as blue as they went back in 2020.

01:48:49.240 So, I think to a point, yes.

01:48:51.540 And that's just because everything has been turned on its head, especially in the aftermath

01:48:56.260 of 2020 with COVID and with kind of that unrest, that really did wake people up.

01:49:01.360 And it was, I mean, shocking to me too, right?

01:49:03.080 Because you would think that something like that wouldn't be allowed to happen in terms

01:49:09.220 of the reaction to COVID and reaction to BLM and BLM itself.

01:49:13.640 And then, I mean, and then, of course, the election of 2020, that was just, you know, another...

01:49:18.640 That was another, you know, the aftermath, that was another, you know, firebomb.

01:49:21.320 So, yeah, I mean, the coalitions and kind of how we view what's a typical Democrat and

01:49:29.100 what's a typical Republican has shifted quite a bit.

01:49:31.740 I don't know if it's to the extent of, like, it's like, oh, we don't really know?

01:49:35.960 We have a pretty good idea.

01:49:37.220 I mean, you ask anybody, how many genders are there?

01:49:39.980 I mean, that answer alone will give you a good idea.

01:49:43.160 6,547.

01:49:44.540 I say 69.

01:49:45.260 So, there is currently a, I'm glad you mentioned that because there is currently, no, I brought

01:49:55.500 up the gender topic, not because I specifically want to talk about gender or whatever, but

01:49:59.540 because there is a, you know, fight in the Democrat Party as to who should be in control,

01:50:06.600 whether it be D and I saw Jeet Herr was tweeting about this.

01:50:11.640 Not that I'm a fan.

01:50:12.660 No, I know, I know, but he's a good indicator.

01:50:14.600 Yeah, and he, he is of the opinion and so are people like Crystal Ball, which she's

01:50:19.920 a clown, but Crystal Ball and, and people over at the majority report, they think that

01:50:26.140 it's time for like the DSA to run the Democrats and that they should be more far down on.

01:50:34.160 Yeah, exactly.

01:50:34.760 And it's, it's my, and the argument that they make is, well, the reason that Trump won

01:50:39.480 is because actual progressives stayed home.

01:50:43.360 They didn't like Joe Biden because Joe Biden wasn't hard enough on Israel and Joe Biden

01:50:48.060 did, supported Israel over Gaza.

01:50:51.360 And because of that, actual progressives didn't go and, and go to the polls to vote.

01:50:56.860 And so that's why Donald Trump won.

01:50:58.940 I think that's complete horseshit.

01:51:00.880 I don't think that that's true at all, but that's the way that they cope with losing.

01:51:05.620 David Hogg just got a job at the DNC.

01:51:07.760 Yeah.

01:51:08.040 That tells you everything.

01:51:08.600 It's like, but you can, can only continue to lose for so long before you're like, all

01:51:11.980 right, we need a new playbook here.

01:51:13.100 So how, do you have the sense that the, the radicals who are the people that also would

01:51:18.360 be likely to be out in the street, you know, protesting those, the DSA members that, you

01:51:23.860 know, the communists, the actual communists, cause you, you see the, the overlap of, of

01:51:28.680 communists in Antifa, they'll call themselves, um, anarcho-communist.

01:51:32.540 Yeah.

01:51:32.720 The anarcho-communist, they'll call themselves anarchists.

01:51:35.200 But as soon as there's a government program, they're like, I'm all for it.

01:51:37.680 So it's, it's such a ridiculous concept, but those are the people that are most frequently

01:51:43.000 out there, you know, as a mem, as members of Antifa and out there protesting.

01:51:47.460 Do you get a sense that that, that they have the mojo to win the Democrats?

01:51:50.700 And if they do win the Democrats, get control, if they become the influential wing of the

01:51:55.960 Democrat party, do you think that that would mean that there would be more protests on the

01:51:59.900 ground, more kind of riots and stuff?

01:52:01.360 Honestly, I don't know.

01:52:02.700 I, I, I truly don't know just because I, I think, I don't, I don't, I don't see how

01:52:08.900 that more radical side of things can completely take over the DNC.

01:52:13.960 It's, it's kind of happening.

01:52:15.540 I've got three letters for you.

01:52:16.540 A-O-C.

01:52:17.780 Well, well, right.

01:52:18.760 But, but even, but she's, but she, but she became a party insider.

01:52:22.120 I mean, she, cause like.

01:52:23.240 She plays the game.

01:52:24.160 She plays the game.

01:52:24.900 And that's what you do in DC, right?

01:52:26.300 So you can only go for so long.

01:52:27.560 And that's why a lot of people are, a lot of like her original fan base is.

01:52:30.540 I would push back on that and, and, and use how long it took Bernie to be, how long Bernie

01:52:36.600 was an outsider to the Democrats before it became very clear to his base and people that

01:52:42.740 he was actually an insider.

01:52:44.280 Well, he got sandbagged in two different elections.

01:52:46.860 He was most, he was the most effective communicator for the Democrats in, you know, prior to, or

01:52:52.940 to, to the progressives prior to AOC.

01:52:55.000 And obviously he, he was, he's a, he doesn't have a spine.

01:52:59.160 So he just, you know, knelt down for Hillary Clinton.

01:53:02.920 Okay.

01:53:03.260 And I resent that statement.

01:53:04.480 I resent it very much.

01:53:05.800 I don't care what he resents.

01:53:07.020 It's true.

01:53:07.680 I didn't bend down.

01:53:08.520 I just was sitting in a chair.

01:53:09.780 He a bitch.

01:53:10.440 But, uh, but it's clear that he doesn't have the, he didn't have the ability to stand up

01:53:15.620 and say, no, these are the principles that I actually do believe in, but he was still

01:53:18.760 the, the person and still is the person that people like crystal ball point to people like

01:53:25.300 Kyle Kalinske, they point to Bernie and they point to his politics.

01:53:28.220 Yeah.

01:53:29.000 Do you guys think that someone that has those kinds of politics that's a, that has a little

01:53:34.180 bit more of a spine could actually step in and take over the Democrats.

01:53:37.580 And I, not that I think that that would be a good thing for the Democrats, but do you

01:53:40.920 think that they would, that the Democrats would fall in line behind that person because

01:53:44.060 they, they need, they need donations and donate like the wealthy people that are, that are,

01:53:48.960 that have been propping the Democrats up.

01:53:50.400 They're not going to be into Bernie saying we need a tax.

01:53:53.540 Get all the pennies out of your vacuum cleaner.

01:53:55.140 Yeah.

01:53:55.780 We need an unrealized capital, unrealized gains, right?

01:53:59.060 Like if you want to, if they're going to start saying you have to sell property to pay taxes

01:54:03.020 on your existing property, all the rich people are going to be like, nope.

01:54:06.320 Well, the other problem with that is that Trumpism and Trump's four brand of populism took the

01:54:11.980 wind out of the sails of the Bernie wing of the Democrat party.

01:54:16.640 Because if you listen to a Bernie speech from 2016, he was saying that we shipped all our

01:54:20.000 jobs overseas to China.

01:54:21.400 And so Trump was able to capture that working class blue collar voter.

01:54:27.020 And now it's China.

01:54:28.720 Yeah.

01:54:29.020 So I think the people who support that radical agenda are not your average everyday Americans

01:54:33.460 who are going to go to the polls in great numbers.

01:54:35.980 They're like young people with blue hair.

01:54:37.620 I mean, I'm fine with Democrats being in chaos.

01:54:40.260 Dems in disarray.

01:54:41.080 I mean, I'm fine with that.

01:54:41.980 I mean, I, I, they're, they're, they're going to figure something out eventually.

01:54:45.660 Dude, Dave Chappelle.

01:54:48.060 No.

01:54:48.440 Dave Chappelle.

01:54:49.320 No, he, no, he, he, he, he, he's, he's too anti-transgender.

01:54:53.140 Well.

01:54:53.660 Well, not, not even that.

01:54:54.640 He's made too many jokes about that.

01:54:56.000 There's no way.

01:54:56.880 I'm just, I'm just thinking outside the box.

01:54:58.580 It ain't going to be Mark Cuban in my opinion.

01:55:00.480 He just doesn't.

01:55:02.420 That's what they, if, if I were working at the DNC right now, I'd be like, yo, we're going

01:55:06.500 back to square one and like, we need like some kind of.

01:55:09.580 A black guy, but actually black this time.

01:55:11.420 Yeah.

01:55:11.780 Dave Chappelle.

01:55:13.000 Dave Chappelle.

01:55:14.640 No, I don't know.

01:55:15.880 I mean, I, I, I don't, I don't, I don't see, I mean, they don't, they don't see a cool,

01:55:20.180 clear leader is right now.

01:55:21.280 And again, that's fine because I mean, yeah.

01:55:23.920 Chuck Schumer, like isn't he technically the highest ranking Democrat now?

01:55:29.680 I think so.

01:55:30.500 Yeah.

01:55:30.640 Like, I do think that AOC is the heir apparent.

01:55:32.560 He doesn't, he doesn't know how to cook hamburgers.

01:55:34.820 No.

01:55:35.200 Well, I mean, but they're, they're, they're, they don't cook.

01:55:38.240 They're super rich.

01:55:39.000 They have people that do that for them.

01:55:39.900 Right.

01:55:40.480 He just likes it al dente.

01:55:41.720 That's all.

01:55:42.320 Oh.

01:55:42.500 Oh, geez, al dente burgers.

01:55:44.140 I, I, I do agree that, that AOC is probably the heir apparent, um, as to whether she can

01:55:52.080 actually get the.

01:55:53.520 To Alex Stein's great.

01:55:54.800 People are saying Crockett now.

01:55:56.720 Crockett.

01:55:56.960 Crockett.

01:55:57.440 What's her name again?

01:55:58.160 Jasmine.

01:55:58.360 Jasmine Crockett from, from Texas.

01:56:00.560 Oh, God.

01:56:00.780 She's an idiot.

01:56:03.080 Oh, God.

01:56:04.440 I mean, yeah.

01:56:05.240 She is.

01:56:05.380 David Hogg.

01:56:06.100 She is out there more.

01:56:07.100 She is out there more.

01:56:08.340 Yeah.

01:56:08.880 I mean, she's very active on social media.

01:56:10.580 I don't think that she has the same charisma that, that AOC.

01:56:12.600 No, and AOC is a supreme communicator.

01:56:14.700 And that, that's.

01:56:15.160 You can disagree with her, but she, the way she uses social media, the way that she gets

01:56:18.420 her, her audience, you know, she's using the Zooms and doing all the Zoomer stuff and

01:56:23.060 the TikTok thing and, you know.

01:56:24.820 Yeah, I, I think that AOC.

01:56:26.720 Shouldn't underestimate AOC.

01:56:27.840 The charisma that AOC has is, is legit.

01:56:30.120 Like, it's a real force to be reckoned with.

01:56:31.860 I don't know that Crockett has the same kind of charisma.

01:56:34.060 No.

01:56:34.420 She's got a good Twitter account.

01:56:36.020 She has no problem getting into arguments and disagreements, which is going to get

01:56:40.620 attention.

01:56:41.340 But I don't think that she will bring people to the Democrat party.

01:56:45.540 I think AOC has the ability to bring people to the Democrat party.

01:56:49.680 And I think that, and AOC is also a, a, a creation of the DSA, if I understand correctly.

01:56:54.940 Like, it wasn't.

01:56:56.660 Or maybe it was the Justice Democrats.

01:56:58.140 She worked at USA.

01:56:58.420 Yeah, it was.

01:56:58.960 She worked at USA, dude.

01:57:00.220 Or she, she was overseas.

01:57:02.660 Oh, was it a bartender?

01:57:03.320 Uh, no, before she was a bartender, after, after BC or BU.

01:57:06.880 Where'd she go?

01:57:07.100 Oh, so that's where the bar was at?

01:57:08.380 Somehow it was in Saudi Arabia.

01:57:09.820 Yeah.

01:57:11.400 Pete Buttigieg.

01:57:13.080 No.

01:57:13.840 Mayor Pete.

01:57:14.840 Mayor Pete.

01:57:15.080 He's not.

01:57:15.860 He's just your average, hardworking McKinsey associate.

01:57:19.120 I just like how he's finally outspoken about aviation safety, now that he's out.

01:57:22.880 Yeah, right.

01:57:23.300 I'm just so glad that he.

01:57:24.760 He's a straight white, I mean, he's a gay white man, and the gays are the new straight.

01:57:28.540 He's not straight, dude.

01:57:29.540 Gays are the new straight.

01:57:30.060 Fact check.

01:57:30.560 He's like, well, the thing is, the gays are the new straights.

01:57:33.120 Like, if you're not queer, you're not a member, you're not an authentic member of the LGBTQIA identity.

01:57:42.660 If you're a Christian and you have a family, then you're a punk rock.

01:57:44.880 Well, yeah, because he, well, he's posing as a hetero person, right?

01:57:50.960 They're doing the hetero thing.

01:57:52.300 Him and his husband.

01:57:53.600 Straight presenting.

01:57:54.280 Exactly.

01:57:54.740 They're doing the normal.

01:57:56.460 Although, let's be real, he's very feminine.

01:57:58.560 Like, he doesn't, because it was, what's his name?

01:58:02.480 Clay Travis?

01:58:03.380 Clay Travis?

01:58:04.060 Yeah.

01:58:04.280 When he's, he's like, people judge him manly?

01:58:06.920 And the moderator's like, is that a gay joke?

01:58:08.860 He's like, no, he's not manly.

01:58:10.540 According to the, but according to the progressives in the LGBTQIA lobby, like he is.

01:58:16.220 Missed three letters.

01:58:18.460 LGBTQIA?

01:58:18.820 Plus.

01:58:19.500 Oh, plus.

01:58:20.240 Divide, division symbol.

01:58:21.580 Then there's, that's the, that's the, that's the plus minus divided by sign.

01:58:25.100 But the, the thing is they believe that because he's doing things that straight people do by

01:58:31.300 adopting a kid, being married, having a, what, what you would consider a normal household,

01:58:38.100 he's actually not queer.

01:58:40.500 He's, he's gay, but he's not.

01:58:42.880 And also just the fact that he can't attract black voters.

01:58:45.780 That's the, that's the other thing.

01:58:46.680 I mean, I would say that's his biggest, I would say that's his biggest handicap to try

01:58:50.320 to, to try to be a national leader again.

01:58:52.720 I don't think that there's, there's a lot of gay men that can attract black voters.

01:58:56.340 I think black voters are, are put off by gay men generally, unless they're gay black

01:59:01.600 men.

01:59:02.400 Yeah.

01:59:03.700 No comment.

01:59:05.080 No comment on that.

01:59:07.100 Why not?

01:59:07.620 I think you're probably right, but I'm going to go ahead and, yeah.

01:59:09.920 Look, I'm, I'm, I'm, I got, look, I don't have enough melanin to comment on.

01:59:13.900 Look, man, there's a lot, there are a lot of black people.

01:59:16.320 Black Baptists.

01:59:17.380 There are a lot, and black people are, are very, very religious.

01:59:20.280 And so it's not, it's not because they're black.

01:59:22.720 It's because of the fact that they're, the culture.

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02:00:23.360 Black people, there's a lot, like the South is full of black Baptist church and you have,

02:00:28.560 you know, everyone knows the stereotype of the Baptist church full of black people singing

02:00:32.480 and praising Jesus.

02:00:33.220 And like that, those people generally aren't going to vote for a gay man.

02:00:37.360 And look at the vaccination rates among different populations.

02:00:40.400 Everyone was like, obviously shining the light on like, oh, those Trumpers aren't going to

02:00:43.640 take the vaccine.

02:00:44.920 Obviously that's what the media was saying.

02:00:46.000 But if you looked at the actual numbers, it was black Americans who were the least likely

02:00:50.220 to take.

02:00:50.740 Do you blame them?

02:00:52.340 Well, actually, I went back to, I went back to coach.

02:00:56.260 I coached the hockey team in DC and I went back to coach right after the pandemic and

02:01:01.200 the, the coach at the time I was the assistant, he had like this long hair and like he had

02:01:06.360 grown it out during the pandemic.

02:01:07.300 And I was like, Hey coach, like nice hair.

02:01:09.720 And this is in front of all the guys.

02:01:11.220 These are all college aged kids.

02:01:12.800 And I, and I, I, I didn't get, I didn't get the old Jabber Rooney off the record, but

02:01:18.380 he was like, I was like, nice hair coach.

02:01:20.860 He was like, I'm not going to cut it until every last Trumper gets the vaccine.

02:01:24.040 And I just look at him, I'm like, I'm like, what about all the black people?

02:01:28.200 And he was just went silent and all the kids were like dying laughing because I mean, it's

02:01:32.360 true.

02:01:32.820 He just, he's like, come on, man, don't make this political.

02:01:37.040 That's just, that's just peak, you know, big city virtue signaling mentality.

02:01:42.940 Like I'm not going to, I'm not going to do X and Oh, like what was like the, the red

02:01:46.580 lipstick thing after Trump won on Tik TOK where like people were, it was that a real

02:01:50.580 thing or, or it's hard to tell anymore.

02:01:52.540 Yeah.

02:01:52.820 It was because they're like, we're going to read, we're going to like women were saying,

02:01:55.760 we're going to wear red lipstick every day to like show our, like in an act of defiance

02:02:00.840 of Trump.

02:02:01.140 I, I, I, I, I'm not making this up.

02:02:03.160 I could have sworn I saw that video, whether it's a parody or not, I don't know.

02:02:05.960 But that, well, plus like it used to be the granola hippies on the left who are the

02:02:10.780 anti-vax people and it used to be the left that was the party of the party of free speech

02:02:15.900 and the party of anti-war.

02:02:17.220 And I'm like, okay, I was, yeah, I'm pro free speech, anti-war.

02:02:20.720 Like, what does that make me now?

02:02:21.760 Well, it makes you far right.

02:02:22.920 That's what it makes you.

02:02:23.740 Well, cause RFK Jr.

02:02:24.620 His original support for all, like all of his vaccine stuff was like big city or liberal

02:02:29.640 women out in California.

02:02:30.940 Yeah.

02:02:31.100 Yeah.

02:02:31.360 I mean, you mentioned, you mentioned the political realignment and you look at the

02:02:34.720 Trump administration, you've got RFK, Tulsi Gabbard, Donald Trump, Elon Musk, all

02:02:40.860 these people that are former Democrats.

02:02:42.300 They're, yeah, they all used to be Democrats and that's part, I think that speaks to what

02:02:46.980 we were talking about just a minute ago, the, the, the divide in the, in the, among the

02:02:51.040 Democrats, which really I've, I've been talking about this a little bit on the show.

02:02:55.720 Really what it is, is the people that voted for Donald Trump or the people that, that are

02:02:59.780 under the big tent MAGA, they're all not leftists.

02:03:03.680 That's all that it is.

02:03:04.900 It's the leftists that are, are vying for control.

02:03:08.100 So people like AOC and people that are progressives, leftists, they're communists, not liberal.

02:03:14.980 It's not liberal to be dogmatic and to censor free speech.

02:03:17.620 Not at all.

02:03:18.640 And so it took a long time for the liberals to realize and get used to being called names

02:03:24.540 by the progressives, because that's really what, I think that's one of the things that,

02:03:27.440 that was the strongest motivator was when the average Democrat was like, I don't know if

02:03:35.780 it's a good idea to have men and girls changing rooms.

02:03:39.300 And the response was, you're an effing Nazi then.

02:03:42.540 And then, so it took a little, it took time to, for those people to build up the, the intestinal

02:03:47.100 fortitude to realize, Hey, they're just going to call me Nazis no matter what.

02:03:51.640 Maybe these people aren't, I mean, I don't align with these people politically after all.

02:03:56.100 And we've, and I've been making the argument that we've lived in a leftist milieu for so

02:04:01.520 long without people realizing it, that the left has been, and the left has been so in

02:04:06.860 control that really the political factions in the United States are now progressive leftists

02:04:13.000 and not.

02:04:14.560 So this really kind of became apparent, at least in my opinion, when you had like Ashley Sinclair

02:04:19.500 come out that she had Elon Musk's baby.

02:04:21.660 And there were a bunch of people on the right that are conservative saying, this isn't conservative

02:04:25.420 that we shouldn't support this.

02:04:27.740 This isn't conservative.

02:04:28.600 And it's like, well, you're correct.

02:04:30.560 It's not, but you don't like the MAGA.

02:04:33.000 You thought that Trump was like a tried and true conservative.

02:04:36.180 The MAGA movement is a big tent.

02:04:38.020 And so if you want to continue to win elections, you're not going to make a stick.

02:04:42.820 You're not going to make the effort to kick people out because they do things in their

02:04:46.760 personal lives that you don't like.

02:04:48.420 If you can align with them just for the purposes of politics and voting, then you can have the

02:04:57.440 big tent and you'll get a lot of what you want.

02:04:59.560 And the evidence of that is the repealing of Roe versus Wade.

02:05:03.420 That was because of Donald Trump.

02:05:05.380 If you were looking at Donald Trump and saying, he's not a good Christian, he's had multiple

02:05:09.920 marriages, he had sex out of wedlock.

02:05:12.120 He's done things that are distasteful to Christians, and so I won't vote for him, which there were

02:05:17.700 people that were making those arguments.

02:05:19.540 They were saying he's not pro-life enough, even though he's the reason that Roe versus

02:05:26.500 Wade was repealed.

02:05:28.440 There were people making the argument, he's not conservative enough.

02:05:31.200 He's not Christian enough, so I'm not going to vote him.

02:05:32.700 Well, if you are going to do that, then you are going to lose because the plurality of the

02:05:38.760 United States, whereas they may have a plurality, they don't have enough people to win elections.

02:05:44.300 Yeah.

02:05:44.780 And so I think that it's just a situation of not the left and the far left.

02:05:50.400 And so who do you think wins the Democrat Party?

02:05:52.280 Do you guys think that the not left will go back to the left?

02:05:56.460 Or do you think that the or the not left center, the left leaning center will go back and allow

02:06:02.300 the will get in bed with the far left again, who are burning, you know, looking to riot, looking for

02:06:08.300 for civil strife, looking to possibly start actual, you know, commit crimes and stuff in in in pursuit of

02:06:19.300 a political end?

02:06:20.100 What do you guys think?

02:06:21.200 Well, if AOC loses to J.D.

02:06:22.700 Vance in twenty twenty eight, maybe then they go back to the drawing board.

02:06:25.380 But in 2016, after Trump won, I was like, oh, you know, this is going to everyone's going to like

02:06:29.720 have a come to Jesus moment of like, oh, I guess we kind of like lost the plot as far as like the

02:06:34.680 Democrat Party and what they stood for.

02:06:36.380 That didn't happen, obviously.

02:06:37.600 And it's not happening in twenty twenty four.

02:06:39.580 So I do think there's a couple more losses involved in the future before they will actually

02:06:43.800 redraw what the Democrat Party looks like.

02:06:46.640 Yeah, whatever they do, I hope they lose.

02:06:50.380 I'm a simple man.

02:06:51.140 I'm a simple man.

02:06:52.020 Who is they?

02:06:52.500 The progressives?

02:06:53.060 Doesn't even care about JFK.

02:06:54.460 He blew his head off, man.

02:06:57.360 Because I agree with you.

02:06:58.300 I hope the progressives lose.

02:06:59.980 Well, I guess my real answer would be I think I think the money wins out.

02:07:04.700 Right.

02:07:04.940 And who has the money right now in terms of like the party?

02:07:09.600 Well, it's going to be the old guard.

02:07:11.040 It's going to be people that don't like, as you were saying, because, no, we don't want

02:07:15.760 taxing on unrealized gains.

02:07:17.640 We don't want all this stuff.

02:07:18.580 So I.

02:07:20.380 I think eventually the money is going to win out.

02:07:22.560 I like the donors, the, the, the long established, because usually, I mean, there's that joke

02:07:28.580 that comfortably spunked, right?

02:07:29.560 The establishment always wins.

02:07:30.920 Yeah.

02:07:31.200 And I think that's true to a certain extent.

02:07:32.860 It's funny that you know comfortably spunked.

02:07:34.300 Well, of course.

02:07:34.800 He's got a great account.

02:07:35.880 Yeah, well, of course.

02:07:36.460 But so, but, but, but there's truth to that, right?

02:07:39.420 And so I think it would have to be like a seismic radical event or, or, or maybe, maybe

02:07:49.320 a blowout like Reagan had electorally in order for them to, to, to consider them the

02:07:55.740 other options.

02:07:56.280 Right.

02:07:56.540 Um, but I don't, I don't see that happening in terms of it being so catastrophically, a

02:08:02.720 catastrophic result in an election.

02:08:04.740 I don't, I don't think, I just, I just don't think how, with the way that the, the, the

02:08:10.720 political views are right now, but I mean, who knows, right?

02:08:13.880 I mean, that, that's, that's what makes, that's what makes politics fun, right?

02:08:17.060 There's, there's so, you can have all these conventions, you can, you can game it out, you

02:08:19.980 can project it, you can do the polling, but at the end of the day, it's, it's, you know,

02:08:22.760 it all, it all comes down to turnout, right?

02:08:24.600 It all, it all comes down to turnout and voters like, I will never understand it.

02:08:29.180 I, you know, I will never understand how you can like vote for Biden in 2020 and then

02:08:33.980 all say, you know what, let's go back to Trump or something.

02:08:35.620 You know, I, I don't, I will never understand that, but there's a lot of people who do,

02:08:38.660 who do think that way.

02:08:40.460 Allegedly voted for Biden.

02:08:41.600 Allegedly.

02:08:41.920 I was, I was going to, I was going to do voting for Biden.

02:08:45.040 Um, but so yeah, I, I don't, I don't, I don't know.

02:08:47.920 And that's what's going to make, it's what's going to make 2028.

02:08:51.620 And I think, again, not to get too much in the weeds of it, but it will depend on what

02:08:54.760 happens in the midterms.

02:08:55.780 Yeah.

02:08:56.140 Um, because even because the economy is still very fragile right now.

02:09:01.340 Um, it's not where it needs to be.

02:09:03.220 And so it could just be something as simple as that where just historically, obviously

02:09:06.860 the party, the party in charge of an economic downturn is not going to win the national

02:09:09.780 election.

02:09:10.120 Well, you remember those waves of the, the migrant caravans that were coming up right before

02:09:15.300 the, uh, the midterms in 2018.

02:09:17.680 Yeah.

02:09:18.220 And the whole kids in cages narrative that we were talking about.

02:09:20.660 The question is, is what do they have left in their playbook to pull out of the, you

02:09:25.040 know, like the 20, I think most people didn't see, uh, you know, COVID coming or, you know,

02:09:31.760 the assassination attempt on Trump.

02:09:33.640 Although I did predict that in May of 20.

02:09:36.140 Assassination attempt on Trump was way easier to predict then.

02:09:39.480 Yeah.

02:09:39.900 Yeah.

02:09:40.440 Well, and that's the question is what else is left in the, in the playbook.

02:09:43.540 And that's the scary question because yeah, if you back these swamp donkeys against the

02:09:48.120 wall, like what are they going to do?

02:09:50.080 Something.

02:09:51.960 So is it your sense that they're, they've actually run out of things or do you think that they're,

02:09:56.680 or what, what is it that you think that they might do?

02:09:59.420 I, I honestly, I mean, what else is left?

02:10:02.460 Well, so then, I mean, I think that's what I was thinking.

02:10:05.440 Like, so a false, some kind of false flag attack or, uh, you know, false, false flag

02:10:09.420 terrorist attack.

02:10:10.760 Um, but I don't, I don't think that they have the mojo to do it anymore.

02:10:16.400 Yeah.

02:10:16.600 No, I think you're right.

02:10:17.440 I think you're right.

02:10:18.320 They've lost control of rounds.

02:10:20.100 There was a time where I thought that the left was, it was like, I wasn't confident that

02:10:26.040 Donald Trump was going to win at all.

02:10:27.120 I was very, very skeptical.

02:10:29.760 I thought you should be in a crystal right now because I was skeptical.

02:10:32.660 No, you should be in a crystal right now for, for not believing, not having the faith.

02:10:36.180 No, that that's where you, the libs go to the crystals.

02:10:38.240 I, I voted.

02:10:38.760 No, no, no, no.

02:10:39.460 All black pillars, all black pillars also go to the crystals.

02:10:42.040 Okay.

02:10:42.220 Well, um, I was, I was skeptical.

02:10:44.120 I didn't think because, and the reason is because the, I believe that the, or I believed

02:10:48.740 that the left had such a full and total control over the narrative machine, over the media.

02:10:56.580 And it wasn't until the last probably couple of weeks where I was like, yo, maybe he actually

02:11:02.040 will pull this off.

02:11:03.840 Um, well, no, I would, I would agree.

02:11:05.000 They did have the narrative.

02:11:06.080 They did have control of the narrative, but it, but people tuned it out.

02:11:09.000 I thought that people were more susceptible to the propaganda.

02:11:12.240 The moment he survived that assassination, my wife was crying and I was like, why are you

02:11:16.520 crying?

02:11:16.780 He just won.

02:11:18.000 Cause I mean.

02:11:19.740 Heck yeah.

02:11:21.220 Yeah.

02:11:22.300 Yeah.

02:11:22.860 But you're right.

02:11:23.960 And now, I mean, Trump obviously utilized new media to win.

02:11:28.620 And like the left is like, we need our Joe Rogan.

02:11:30.580 It's like, yeah, his name was Joe Rogan.

02:11:32.360 Yeah.

02:11:32.620 He was, he was on the left.

02:11:34.100 Yeah.

02:11:34.320 Oh no, they got a son now.

02:11:35.860 Oh God.

02:11:37.200 He's a literal terrorist sympathizer.

02:11:39.120 No, I know.

02:11:39.900 So, um, anyways.

02:11:40.820 All right.

02:11:41.060 So it fits perfectly.

02:11:42.000 It does.

02:11:42.600 It fits perfectly.

02:11:43.140 Well, with the, with the new Democrats.

02:11:44.260 With the new Democrats.

02:11:45.100 Yeah.

02:11:45.200 It's perfect.

02:11:45.960 Um, so I, I think it's time we, we're going to go ahead and wrap things up.

02:11:48.580 So who got, have you got any, uh, final thoughts?

02:11:51.500 Uh, yeah, I, I, it's, it, this is going to be, not to be too like, too predictable,

02:11:58.260 but it's going to be an interesting year.

02:11:59.300 Right.

02:11:59.860 Um, because, because then after this, then it's the midterms.

02:12:03.660 Um, and then right after that's 2028.

02:12:05.700 So I, I, I, I'm looking forward to, to seeing how all this plays out, uh, just because yeah,

02:12:12.540 it's, it's anyone's game in terms of how, how the left reacts.

02:12:16.120 Uh, and so it, we'll, we'll see what happens once the deportations really, really start

02:12:21.560 ramping up and, and, um, and once it gets warmer and for, for most of the country.

02:12:26.460 So that's kind of what I'm, I'm looking forward to, because obviously you have the, you have

02:12:29.940 the stories about how the border is doing now.

02:12:32.380 And obviously, you know, not much is happening.

02:12:33.900 There's the motor wall construction and like, and that's all fine and dandy.

02:12:35.920 And that's obviously something I'm planning as well, but the, the fireworks are going

02:12:40.780 to be further within the country again, which I'm going to shamelessly plug riot diet.

02:12:46.120 So in the meantime, until we have more unrest, potential unrest, go get riot diet, get fiery,

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02:13:16.840 I'm sorry.

02:13:17.440 You want to, you want to run?

02:13:18.360 I was just trying to take Tim's, you know, I mean, I need my beanie.

02:13:21.000 I can't forget about it.

02:13:22.740 Uh, Tim though.

02:13:23.720 Congrats to Tim.

02:13:24.620 Yeah.

02:13:25.000 Right.

02:13:25.220 Oh yeah.

02:13:25.880 That's right.

02:13:26.620 The baby was the baby was born.

02:13:28.720 I believe last night.

02:13:29.720 So it's official.

02:13:31.180 So the, the, uh, the baby has been here.

02:13:33.740 I'm not going to say anything more than that because that's Tim's, uh, Tim's prerogative.

02:13:37.580 So I don't, I don't want to step on any toes, but yeah, I'm, I'm here doing the show because

02:13:42.260 Tim was, uh, indisposed with family matters, uh, having his first child.

02:13:47.220 So, um, but come back here tonight.

02:13:49.360 I will be hosting IRL.

02:13:51.280 Uh, I'm not sure who the guest is.

02:13:52.520 Who's the guest, Kelly?

02:13:53.900 Will Chamberlain.

02:13:54.980 Yeah, that's right.

02:13:56.380 Oh, Will Chamberlain.

02:13:57.240 There you go.

02:13:57.720 That's great.

02:13:58.560 Uh, not the basketball player.

02:13:59.620 So we'll see you tonight.

02:14:07.580 We'll see you tonight.

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The RETURN Of Riot Season, Summer of Love 2.0 Is COMING w⧸ Richie McGinniss & Julio Rojas

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