The Culture War - Tim Pool - April 30, 2026


THE WAR HAS JUST BEGUN

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After the Supreme Court struck down the Voting Rights Act, Louisiana has decided to suspend May primaries and redraw their congressional districts. Meanwhile, New York City is doing the same. What does this mean for the rest of the country?

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00:00:00.000 With the Supreme Court gutting the Voting Rights Act, Louisiana has announced they are prepared
00:00:06.260 to suspend May primaries to redraw their congressional maps, thus giving Republicans
00:00:13.240 two seats and taking two seats from the Democrats. In the meantime, Kathy Hochul's response is that
00:00:19.980 New York will do the same. You see, my friends, this is a double-edged sword.
00:00:26.060 While it still largely benefits Republicans, Democrats are going to use the excuse of the
00:00:31.480 Supreme Court ruling to redraw their maps as well. So for those that have been living under a rock,
00:00:38.000 what happened? Supreme Court issued a landmark ruling. Congressional districts that were drawn
00:00:44.000 up based on race are unconstitutional. And thus, Democrats are apoplectic,
00:00:50.920 arguing that the purpose of these racially gerrymandered districts is to give a voice
00:00:57.120 to minorities, creating what is referred to as a majority minority district.
00:01:02.820 However, Supreme Court ruled just the other day that that's discrimination based on race
00:01:09.660 and is barred under the law.
00:01:12.420 The result, if these other red states decide to eliminate their racially gerrymandered districts,
00:01:20.240 My friends, this could result in a 30 congressional seat swing for Republicans, effectively putting an end to Democrats winning ever again.
00:01:33.260 Now, if Democrats respond and Republicans then respond and we get red state, blue state
00:01:40.820 congressional districts, regardless, just pure political gerrymandering, the end result
00:01:46.480 is Republicans having a permanent political edge in the House.
00:01:52.520 Not to mention with Trump's mass deportations and changes that have happened over the past
00:01:56.820 few years, it's looking like with the 2030 census, the exodus we have seen from blue
00:02:01.740 states, Democrats stand to lose way more. Now, in the most extreme case, my friends,
00:02:09.300 you've got to factor in immigration patterns, deportations, inter or intra-migration,
00:02:16.840 internal migration. So people from blue states like Washington moving to Arizona.
00:02:22.800 Now, some have been concerned that if moderates in New York move to, say, West Virginia,
00:02:28.620 and West Virginia could turn purple. The issue is exodus from blue states is not greater than
00:02:35.200 internal Republican representation, meaning when the census comes in, blue states stand to lose
00:02:42.140 several congressional seats just based on the exodus and their failed policies. It's not just
00:02:49.420 the redrawing of maps. It is the movement of people in these United States and a complete
00:02:55.460 restructuring of the House. Democrats may be cooked. If Republicans take this opportunity
00:03:02.620 the way Louisiana is right now, my friends, this midterm is going to be a Republican sweep.
00:03:08.960 Could you imagine bucking the historical trend, not because people are happy or sad
00:03:16.660 with the structure of the political environment, but just procedurally?
00:03:21.180 Now, what did Hakeem Jeffries say again? That's right. Maximum warfare. Two big moves underway.
00:03:29.260 New York redrawing, Louisiana redrawing. The question then becomes,
00:03:33.600 will the rest of these red states do the same? Will California eliminate four red seats by doing
00:03:39.700 what Virginia did? One important thing to understand, my friends, is that when you take
00:03:44.820 a look at blue states, you will find they are ridiculous. When you take a look at red states, 0.96
00:03:51.180 They're only ridiculous because the VRA made them as such, and the new maps seem to be
00:03:56.440 normal.
00:03:56.980 That is, there's a really great district in Louisiana, covers the coast.
00:04:01.380 Why does that make sense?
00:04:02.900 The people who live in the coast have shared interests based on geography, the industries
00:04:07.860 that they partake in, not race.
00:04:10.620 What the Democrats want is weirdly drawn strips that just make every person based on race
00:04:17.840 have to vote alongside each other.
00:04:20.080 That's weird.
00:04:21.180 But that's what they want. They want representatives in Congress to represent a race and not an industry or merit or geography.
00:04:31.300 And that, my friends, makes no sense, unless, of course, you're a racist.
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00:05:24.160 Here's a story from The Washington Post.
00:05:25.580 Louisiana governor prepares to suspend House primaries after court ruling.
00:05:30.480 Governor Jeff Landry told Republican House candidates he plans to suspend the May 16th primary elections so lawmakers can redraw the congressional map.
00:05:39.640 Interesting.
00:05:40.200 The move filed a Supreme Court decision earlier in the day that found Louisiana had unlawfully discriminated by race when it created a second majority black congressional district under legal pressure.
00:05:50.660 A new Louisiana map would position Republicans to gain one or two seats in the midterms as they fight to hold their narrow majority in the House.
00:05:57.480 Now, I'd like to just show you this here map.
00:05:59.700 You've seen it if you've been following this story.
00:06:03.180 How does this make sense?
00:06:04.820 I'm sorry.
00:06:05.460 Honest question.
00:06:06.720 What does this district represent?
00:06:09.220 Here's here's what I think.
00:06:11.020 Along the coast, they're proposing a single district that wraps up all coastal communities.
00:06:16.120 This makes sense to me.
00:06:17.460 If you live in the water, you have a shared interest.
00:06:19.480 There's flooding, for instance.
00:06:21.120 And we all know about Hurricane Katrina.
00:06:23.060 So the people who live in areas with high flooding have a political interest based on where they live.
00:06:27.200 There's industry.
00:06:28.320 There's I believe they got shrimping down there.
00:06:30.400 Do they do that down there?
00:06:31.280 I just watched too many movies.
00:06:32.600 But you've got seafood.
00:06:34.800 You've got businesses, industries, communities, worldviews built upon the geography, the economy.
00:06:42.100 I think that matters when it comes to a conversation around taxes, imports, exports, border security.
00:06:50.040 Yeah, I think that makes the most sense that we vote based on those things and not race.
00:06:55.180 This map right here, the whole point is to say black people have a political interest specific to being black.
00:07:02.720 Now, I'm going to be honest with you. I don't think that's not true. I just don't think it's
00:07:07.000 paramount. That is, if I'm sitting here and there's a volcano across the street and there's
00:07:12.720 a black guy to my right, I think our shared interest is the volcano, not that we look
00:07:18.320 different, right? So the argument the Democrats have long made is that institutional racism
00:07:24.600 has made it mandatory that minorities get representation based on race. Maybe that 0.99
00:07:30.220 made sense 70 years ago. But coming from a second generation mixed race family, I don't care. I do 1.00
00:07:37.560 not stand next to a guy and go, hey, what does he look like? Hey, let's vote together. And then it
00:07:41.620 turns out he's a communist. And then I look to my left, there's another guy. And I'm like, I kind
00:07:44.700 of look like you. What do you think? You're a fascist. I don't want either of that. Race makes
00:07:48.420 no sense. Imagine this. You live in a black community and they're telling you, you got to
00:07:52.880 vote alongside this communist because of his skin color. You'd be like, but I don't like communism. 0.98
00:07:57.180 Too bad. Your representation is based on race and nothing more.
00:08:01.460 I say we get rid of it. But waits. Here's the next big move. 0.99
00:08:06.660 Kathy Hochul moves to change the New York district map after SCOTUS ruling bans race based gerrymandering,
00:08:12.920 saying I'm working with the legislature to change New York's redistricting process so we can fight back against Washington's attempts to rig our democracy.
00:08:22.460 That's what I warned the other day. It's not just a play Republicans can make.
00:08:27.180 In Pennsylvania, there is an estimated two congressional seats that were drawn based on race.
00:08:33.020 This is a purple state.
00:08:34.840 It's got Democrats with a lot of power in Pennsylvania, although it did.
00:08:38.480 I believe Pennsylvania did go for Trump right now.
00:08:42.100 If you open up that can of worms, the way the polls have been swinging is entirely possible
00:08:47.240 that purple states and blue states can use the exact same precedent and eliminate Republican seats.
00:08:54.640 my friends, it can get downright wonky. Zachary Donini says if Republicans aggressively gerrymander
00:09:04.280 the South and eliminate up to 10 Democratic seats under a narrowed VRA, Democrats could respond in
00:09:08.780 blue states. For example, this 52 to 0 California map could become legal, flipping four seats from
00:09:15.320 red to blue. Now, this map has been floated around quite a bit, and you can see that what they do is
00:09:20.260 the same thing in Virginia. You make all of the districts touch San Francisco and Los Angeles,
00:09:25.380 and you have eliminated every single Republican district. Now, this map, this map right here,
00:09:33.340 my friends. Christian Hines says we are heading towards a future where something like this
00:09:39.220 becomes what a narrow GOP majority in Congress looks like in 10 years. Extreme geographic
00:09:44.420 polarization on the scale. America has not seen in over a century and a half. Never mind that the
00:09:49.880 2030 census will gut multiple blue states. 0.93
00:09:53.580 Let's go.
00:09:55.760 Indeed, this is what the map is going to look like after this war.
00:10:00.440 Now, I'm going to pause and say maybe not even Nevada, to be completely honest.
00:10:05.320 Maybe not even Nevada.
00:10:06.940 Maybe not even Oregon.
00:10:09.360 I got to tell you, I mean, you don't need to split those states in half.
00:10:12.540 You can actually push this in a very, very different direction.
00:10:15.380 But this argument is basically imagine looking at a map where there there's no middle ground, there's no battleground districts.
00:10:24.280 It is going to be Democrat, Republican guaranteed every single time.
00:10:28.960 Well, I got news for you. Republicans are going to have the edge.
00:10:33.040 This means a stagnant Congress that never gets anything done.
00:10:37.560 Never. Not a one. Not anything.
00:10:40.780 Now, I would be remiss if I did not give you at least a view coming from liberals as to what they think is happening.
00:10:47.760 And I'd like to play this video from Max Flugrath, and then I will issue my rebuttal.
00:10:53.820 Max says yesterday, the Supreme Court ripped away a core American freedom.
00:10:57.700 Uh-huh.
00:10:58.860 The far right just has got one of the key voting protections, and their reason was effing insane.
00:11:03.420 GOP states are now rushing to redraw maps and lock in power.
00:11:07.040 Let's play the video and see what this here feller has to say.
00:11:10.220 The Supreme Court just legalized discrimination. Well, kind of. Let me explain.
00:11:15.200 Exactly. Well, kind of, because not really.
00:11:17.180 Explain. Today, in a 6-3 ruling, the Supreme Court gutted Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act.
00:11:22.960 It was the part of the law that protected against racially discriminatory voting maps.
00:11:27.520 It stopped states from implementing unfair maps that crushed the voting power of Black and Brown
00:11:32.160 Americans. The question the court was considering in this case was, is it discrimination to consider
00:11:38.580 race when you're trying to fix voting maps that discriminate based on race? The court said yes.
00:11:45.740 And that's insane. Actually, it's not. Let me explain. The arguments made in the Supreme Court,
00:11:52.220 actually what Alito said in his opinion, is that maybe they expected some kind of sun setting.
00:11:56.940 At the time, it made sense that there were certain historical inequities that needed to be remedied.
00:12:02.120 By today's standard, that doesn't quite make sense. Things are very, very different.
00:12:05.160 And if we just perpetuate districts based on race, then we never get away from voting
00:12:10.640 interests that are solely race based.
00:12:13.520 Thus, the most effective thing to do to stop discrimination is to stop discriminating.
00:12:18.720 This means that if you are a minority, I'm gonna put it this way.
00:12:22.460 They call them majority minority districts. 0.77
00:12:25.100 The problem is, if you're in that district and it's majority black, it's not majority
00:12:29.780 minority anymore. 0.99
00:12:30.860 There is a majority race.
00:12:32.140 This means Asians and Latinos are being discriminated against as well.
00:12:37.400 A double edged sword problem for the left. 0.84
00:12:40.640 Do you say that we will make an all black district even if it discriminates against Asians because you want black people to vote based on being black? 0.97
00:12:48.740 You see, therein lies the problem.
00:12:51.160 So the issue now, Republicans must redraw these maps that have been known to be historically racially discriminatory.
00:12:58.000 The question is, how will anyone redraw?
00:13:01.460 Democrats can use the same precedent and gerrymander their states to get rid of 0.60
00:13:05.860 Republican seats because politics is totally allowed.
00:13:09.140 Basically, they're saying you can't fix racist maps by acknowledging they're racist.
00:13:14.500 And what did Trump have to say about the ruling? 1.00
00:13:21.700 I don't really care for his stupid, insulting, playing Trump in a weird voice, which is odd. 1.00
00:13:26.740 So let's just skip over that part. Basically, Trump says, is it good for us? 1.00
00:13:30.020 okay, it's great. Then I like it. He says, I'll read it. This all feels coordinated.
00:13:33.560 Indeed it does. Months ago, Florida's governor, Ron DeSantis said he would call a special session
00:13:38.100 to get the legislature back to Tallahassee and redraw the congressional map because of this
00:13:42.960 decision. This decision, the one that hadn't been issued yet. Originally, he scheduled the session
00:13:48.540 for April 20th, but at the last second, he moved it back about a week and his timing lined up
00:13:53.860 perfectly. They passed the new congressional map out of the Florida Senate today. And earlier this
00:13:59.280 month, DeSantis predicted that Justice Alito, the far-right Supreme Court justice, would be the one
00:14:04.900 writing this opinion. Far-right. Okay, let me just say something. There's no far-right and far-left
00:14:11.580 justice. Arguably, you could say Ketanji Brown-Jackson is far-left. I don't actually think
00:14:15.200 she's necessarily far-left. Alito has been in the court for some time. So has Thomas. They're not
00:14:19.360 far-right. They're just regular conservative right. And the liberal justices are just American
00:14:24.840 left. The court has not appointed new justices in long enough or young enough to actually be on the
00:14:31.060 fringe of the political spectrum. Ketanji Brown Jackson, a little bit, but I'd argue like a maybe
00:14:35.980 there. I know a lot of people have said, but she can't name what a woman is, but that's contemporary
00:14:40.380 liberal. It's not, you know, maybe you could say she's far left. But again, I'm going to stress 0.96
00:14:46.160 Alito represents actually just where Americans have been for a long time. You can't now move
00:14:51.720 Move him to the far right.
00:14:52.940 He is where the right is.
00:14:54.520 And again, he was right.
00:14:55.760 If you look at Mississippi, the governor, Tate Reeves, he put out a statement last Friday
00:15:00.640 saying he would also call his legislature back for a special session to redraw a map.
00:15:06.500 It was the state Supreme Court map, but what he didn't say is that he could amend that
00:15:10.600 call to ask them to redraw a different map, maybe the state legislative map, maybe the
00:15:15.420 congressional map.
00:15:16.420 And he put out that statement very late in the afternoon on a Friday, which is exactly
00:15:21.180 what you do when you're trying to bury news. That is correct. That's where news goes to die.
00:15:25.420 You don't want anyone talking about it. If you look at a couple of other states, Alabama,
00:15:29.600 Louisiana, South Carolina, all had draft legislation or draft maps teed up and ready
00:15:34.720 to go. It's almost like they were all ready and just waiting for the signal. But indeed they were.
00:15:40.120 And I agree this strategy has always been in play. If they already control Congress,
00:15:45.140 why do they need new maps? This has never been about unfair maps and it's never been about us,
00:15:50.120 the voters. It's about them, the politicians, and their own power. It's also about money.
00:15:56.100 The same corporations that corrupted and took over the Supreme Court,
00:16:00.060 they want a Congress that will rubber stamp their agenda and just keep letting Trump do
00:16:04.320 whatever he wants. I have no faith whatsoever in the Supreme Court to be largely agenda-driven.
00:16:10.060 My principal disagreement with this here fellow, his hyper-focus on Republicans is misplaced.
00:16:16.780 He's correct about all of the members of Congress wanting a clean shot.
00:16:20.520 They don't want to have to deal with tough races or fundraising.
00:16:23.680 That's true.
00:16:25.160 But I'm going to tell you this.
00:16:26.720 The reason why Republicans are doing this is to prevent Democrats from taking power.
00:16:30.740 But it's not just Republicans doing it.
00:16:33.200 So this starts and it goes way back.
00:16:35.100 This is a correction from yesterday because I didn't have the full picture there.
00:16:37.740 Shout out to the Timcast Discord for correcting me and getting this on the record.
00:16:42.320 So in 2021, Texas said we got a new census.
00:16:45.040 Here are the new maps.
00:16:45.780 The Biden DOJ said the new maps are racist because of the Voting Rights Act.
00:16:50.780 You must make racially gerrymandered districts.
00:16:53.920 This fight lasted until March of 2025, when the Trump administration finally got into power
00:16:58.840 almost immediately.
00:17:00.780 March 30, March 13, 2025, the Trump DOJ said, now that we have the DOJ, we are backing off
00:17:06.820 of this argument.
00:17:07.800 You do not need to do this.
00:17:09.780 The issue, this meant that in a mid decade, we are going to see a redistricting.
00:17:15.280 Texas tried to redistrict in 2021, right after the census came in, and they were barred from
00:17:21.080 doing so by a DOJ lawsuit. The only reason the redistricting happened now, mid-decade,
00:17:26.720 it's not because the Trump administration pressured them to do it. It's because they
00:17:30.460 were held up by the Biden DOJ, and the Trump DOJ removed that block, opening them up to finish
00:17:36.640 their redistricting. Now, by all means, there was pressure from the DOJ and the Trump administration
00:17:41.560 to not have racially discriminatory districts, taking the other view of the the opposite view
00:17:47.360 of the Biden administration. This ultimately resulted in lawsuits, battles. And then
00:17:52.500 under the guise of a secret trick, Democrats in several other states launched their redistricting
00:17:59.220 efforts as well. And thus, the war begins. To be fair, the Democrats are going to argue that
00:18:04.800 Texas was trying to eliminate minority majority minority districts because they're racist.
00:18:09.060 and this goes back in time and it can be reduced ad nauseam. Eventually, we find ourselves
00:18:14.340 back in the Civil War. Seriously, if you want to figure out who started the fight,
00:18:19.640 it just keeps going back further and further because Democrats will be like, yeah, well,
00:18:23.560 Republicans did this. Republicans go, that's because you did this. And then Democrats go,
00:18:26.760 that's because you did this. And it just never, ever stops. Let's take a look at the law.
00:18:32.160 I got this here from University of Michigan, Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act, so you can
00:18:37.000 understand it. And it says, whoa, whoa, whoa, there we go. Denial or abridgment of right to
00:18:43.040 vote on account of race or color through voting qualifications or prerequisites,
00:18:46.240 establishment of violation. No voting qualification or prerequisite to voting or standard practice or
00:18:53.040 procedure shall be imposed or applied by any state or political subdivision in a matter which
00:18:57.580 results in a denial or abridgment of the right of any citizen of the U.S. to vote on account of
00:19:02.660 race, color, or contravention. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They say a violation of
00:19:08.520 Subsection A, the Subsection Established If, blah, blah, blah. So the ruling before that
00:19:13.240 Democrats were operating under is that if you did not create a district for black people, 0.99
00:19:19.140 you were abridging their right to vote, which is dumb. But it's coming from the civil rights era. 0.98
00:19:25.420 Alito and the majority of the court basically said, at this point, if you are telling people
00:19:32.020 in a district they don't have an interest in voting because of their race that's discriminatory
00:19:36.740 the only thing a person has guaranteed is that they won't have their district based on race
00:19:44.180 in which case any district based on race gotta go so here we are my friends the democrats are
00:19:52.100 apoplectic but the war is beginning i guarantee it my friends we're going to see republicans
00:19:57.060 start pulling off these nuclear bombs, Democrats will respond because shout out to our friend who
00:20:03.040 I only somewhat disagree with over here, Max Pflugrith. The one thing I can tell you is this
00:20:07.420 was preplanned. I believe that Republicans had this ready to go, just like with Roe v. Wade.
00:20:15.300 There were several states that had trigger laws or whatever they're called. Basically,
00:20:19.740 they had laws in place that said the moment the precedent on Roe v. Wade is gone,
00:20:25.160 a ban on abortion will go into effect. They didn't need a new session.
00:20:29.660 The moment the Supreme Court issued their ruling, instantly abortion was illegal in several states.
00:20:35.420 This is not too dissimilar. Republicans had legislation fired up, executive orders,
00:20:42.820 calls for special sessions, ready to go. And as Max pointed out, even before the Supreme Court
00:20:49.200 issued their ruling, they all knew it. It was coming in a pipeline and they were prepared,
00:20:56.760 which makes me wonder, what else do you think is in mind? Well, let me tell you this.
00:21:02.360 I guarantee it. There are probably lawsuits lined up and ready to go across the board in all of
00:21:08.960 these states. It takes but one person to say, I am aggrieved to file that lawsuit. The challenge,
00:21:15.680 The attorneys general in red states under the Supreme Court precedent may choose not
00:21:20.160 to defend against the suit, but move to grant relief.
00:21:24.280 And technically, the governors can just grant the relief they want.
00:21:27.980 It's an interesting scenario.
00:21:29.140 Let me explain.
00:21:30.280 I've dealt with these scenarios myself.
00:21:32.220 Let's say that there's an issue in my state that I take issue with, tax issue, for instance.
00:21:36.620 They tell me I have to pay a specific tax.
00:21:39.060 I say, wait, hold on a minute.
00:21:40.660 That's unconstitutional.
00:21:42.260 So then I draft a lawsuit. I say I am going to sue the state for a 14th Amendment violation.
00:21:49.560 This is this is not equal protection under the law. You are singling me out for a protected
00:21:53.660 reason. I'm giving hypothetical, by the way. So what happens is the lawsuit goes to the desk of
00:21:59.100 the attorney general. He sees the lawsuit and he reads it. He says, OK, this is targeting
00:22:04.960 legislation in the state. If I if I disagree with this, I can defend the state against it.
00:22:12.260 Well, let's say it targets a specific regulatory agency, but it has to do with, like, property tax something, so it goes to the West Virginia Tax Authority.
00:22:20.920 He then goes to them and says, you are being sued to end this practice.
00:22:27.420 Now, if the attorney general determines, I cannot win this lawsuit, he can tell the regulatory agency, I am not going to defend you.
00:22:37.480 You will lose.
00:22:38.920 The state cannot win this fight.
00:22:41.180 So in this instance, imagine a guy who lives in a gerrymandered district files a lawsuit.
00:22:45.560 The lawsuit lands on the desk of the attorney general.
00:22:47.680 He gets served.
00:22:48.580 He looks at it and says, we're not going to win.
00:22:51.840 He goes to the governor and he says, this lawsuit is sound.
00:22:56.500 The Supreme Court issued their ruling and there is no legal defense that I could reasonably
00:23:00.860 muster up that will win.
00:23:01.760 My recommendation, do not defend.
00:23:04.820 Now, the governor can say, try anyway.
00:23:07.880 The governor can say, don't waste your time.
00:23:11.180 We will call a special session and redraw the maps.
00:23:14.440 There's also the inverse.
00:23:17.200 An attorney general might say, we can't, he says, we can't win this, but I want to fight
00:23:22.480 anyway.
00:23:23.040 And the governor can say, don't waste your time.
00:23:24.460 Don't do it.
00:23:24.920 The attorney general could actually say, I think I can beat this.
00:23:28.540 And the governor might still say, don't defend.
00:23:31.820 We don't care.
00:23:33.420 That's where it gets real interesting.
00:23:34.780 Will the governors call special sessions and instruct their attorney generals, attorneys general, to just let it happen?
00:23:43.380 Now, the bigger question is for purple states.
00:23:46.140 What about Ohio?
00:23:47.160 Let me do this.
00:23:47.980 Let me pull up Ohio's congressional map.
00:23:49.940 Ohio congressional map just for you guys.
00:23:54.980 Ohio is a purple state.
00:23:57.740 We can take a look here and see.
00:23:59.940 Hey, Ohio's not so bad.
00:24:01.720 Not so bad, probably because it's purple.
00:24:03.620 You can see here you got blocks, right?
00:24:07.000 Now, these congressional districts make sense.
00:24:09.860 The one thing I want to point out is that everybody says, oh, gerrymandering is so wrong.
00:24:13.200 It's so bad.
00:24:13.520 No, no, no, no, no.
00:24:13.940 Hold on.
00:24:14.680 Not everything is gerrymandering that makes no sense.
00:24:17.500 Take a look at this strip right here.
00:24:19.580 You've got, here we go.
00:24:21.620 You got Worcester going up north to Cleveland for the 11th district.
00:24:25.620 Now, you might say, what's with this weird little carve out right there in Illyria?
00:24:30.920 And hold on.
00:24:32.700 Sometimes people look at maps like this and say, this is a weird gerrymander.
00:24:36.880 Well, you know, kind of.
00:24:39.040 The issue is people don't live in grids.
00:24:42.320 And a congressional district needs to have 775,000 people.
00:24:46.600 And population grows.
00:24:47.820 We divvy it up 435 seats.
00:24:51.080 So the issue then is districts will look like this.
00:24:54.320 You will get a district that looks like a big block with some weird shapes.
00:24:57.560 Why?
00:24:58.680 Well, because of where people live.
00:25:00.840 and I actually think this is the appropriate way to do it. Balancing population density in certain
00:25:06.880 areas, as well as the interests of that region. When you take a look at Coshocton, I'd argue at
00:25:13.380 Cambridge and Zanesville, the people in Athens, the people, Mount Vernon, the people who live in
00:25:17.480 these areas probably have a decent amount in common. They live in a relatively similar area.
00:25:21.980 They probably have a lot of differences too, but they have more in common down there than they do
00:25:26.300 with, say, Sandusky or Toledo. Now, what if they grabbed Mount Vernon and then stretched it up to
00:25:33.760 Toledo and made one district? Well, now you've got groups that have nothing in common. That
00:25:37.600 makes no sense. And thus, it's the gerrymander. So let's put it like this. With these new rules,
00:25:44.240 theoretically, in this state, in Ohio, it could trigger, based on lawsuit, an argument that one
00:25:50.840 of these is racially gerrymandered. I'm not saying they are, but someone might argue.
00:25:55.340 You get a Democrat governor in one of these states, maybe Wisconsin or something that's
00:25:58.780 got like slight left leaning, you know, in certain areas, and they can say, oh, you know
00:26:02.860 what?
00:26:03.080 We're going to redistrict just to be sure.
00:26:05.620 You might get lawsuits in the other direction.
00:26:07.540 Fine.
00:26:08.540 But theoretically, Ohio, which doesn't look that bad, to be honest, I mean, the fifth
00:26:13.400 district is a little strange, to be fair.
00:26:16.720 However, what if they say we're going to redraw the whole map and then they do pull off creepy
00:26:23.080 Democrat gerrymandering. I think that's what we could end up seeing in places like in Pennsylvania.
00:26:28.160 Let me pull up PA's congressional map for you guys. PA congressional map from our good old
00:26:36.500 friends at Wikipedia. I like the interactive map for Ohio. So Pennsylvania reportedly has two
00:26:42.520 that are racially gerrymandered, and they probably have more to do with over here,
00:26:47.360 the Pittsburgh area, as well as the Philadelphia area. Now, hold on there a gosh darn minute. 0.77
00:26:52.100 under the guise of that, you might think, what if they redraw the maps to get rid of these 0.78
00:26:58.780 Democrat gerrymandered districts? Sure. What if they get rid of the racially gerrymandered
00:27:04.500 districts, but then create new politically gerrymandered districts? Basically, what happens
00:27:11.660 is you actually have a hand, you know, a good mixed bag in Pennsylvania. They could go in and 0.83
00:27:17.540 redraw it. So they create five new Democrat seats saying, but we're doing it to get rid of racism.
00:27:23.700 Under the same argument Republicans have made, Democrats could do something similar.
00:27:29.600 Based on the fact that the left is apoplectic, I'm going to argue this is a massive boon for
00:27:35.040 Republicans. With Slate saying the Supreme Court's conservatives just issued the worst ruling in a
00:27:39.640 century. I can only just, well, let's do this. Let me tell you what they really mean. We're
00:27:45.140 going to right click this and we're going to inspect and we're going to go here and we're
00:27:49.420 just going to double click this right here. We'll just there you go. And there we go. Fix the
00:27:55.240 article. Did you know you could do that? A lot of you did. You can inspect an article and just
00:27:59.140 change the text temporarily. The Supreme Court's conservatives just issued the best ruling in a
00:28:04.380 century. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. I know. It's not really what they're saying, but they may as
00:28:08.500 well be saying it. Because my friends, this is where we're headed. No more racially gerrymandered
00:28:15.300 districts. Here's Illinois. Here's the ridiculous Illinois. You want to play games? Take a look at
00:28:24.900 the Rockford to Peoria district, this weird strip. None of that makes sense. Take a look at the 13th,
00:28:30.800 which is Champaign to East St. Louis and Springfield. How does that make sense? I suppose
00:28:37.020 the argument they'll make is the interests of the big cities make more sense together than putting
00:28:43.780 a city in a giant rural area where they're at odds with each other, right? Maybe. The only issue is
00:28:50.780 you have fabricated a Democrat district. Yeah, it's fabricated. There would not be a member
00:28:57.400 of Congress for Democrats. It should just be that, sorry, these cities are in the minority
00:29:02.300 in Southern Illinois. And thus, my friends, Democrats have paved the way for the Nazi guy. 0.81
00:29:10.240 Well, to be fair, he's in Maine. He was going to win either way. But that's what we're getting. 0.87
00:29:16.900 The Democrats claim they're anti-fascist. They don't like Nazis, but they push for racial
00:29:22.400 segregation, racially segregated districts. The candidate in Maine with the Nazi tattoo.
00:29:27.860 I'm just sitting here being like, guys, at what point are y'all going to realize
00:29:30.500 they want race policy. They want racial segregation. They like Nazis. Not every
00:29:36.620 single one. I think you're one of the mill Democrat doesn't. But how how are they voting 0.60
00:29:41.260 for that guy? Whatever. To be fair, I got to at least say everyone deserves a path towards
00:29:46.760 redemption. And if he's saying he doesn't want to do it, you know, with the Nazi tattoo and he 0.71
00:29:50.740 gets it covered up. Well, OK, fine. He apologized either way. Maximum warfare.
00:29:55.940 This is the potential scenario. If they redistrict in the South, and it looks like Louisiana already
00:30:02.380 is, Republicans will gain 12 seats. Here's the truth. My friends, if they deported every illegal
00:30:10.040 immigrant, Republicans would gain four seats. If they got rid of racially gerrymandered districts, 0.75
00:30:16.600 Republicans would gain 30 seats. If we actually had governance based on fairness, merit, industry,
00:30:22.940 et cetera, this would be a Republican majority country. But the Democrats have long sought to
00:30:29.140 win using procedure. The only thing they're really mad about, Republicans are using procedure against
00:30:34.120 them. The truth is, they all suck. You're not going to get much of what you want from anybody. 1.00
00:30:41.800 Two political factions fighting for power, knifing each other in the back and dragging
00:30:46.000 everyone down with them. But hey, isn't that always how politics has worked? I can only say
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