On this episode of Across the Pond, we're joined by John Doyle and Connor Tomlinson from Courage Media to discuss why children's movies are the new adult entertainment and why they have the potential to be the next Shrek.
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00:00:59.360I wanted to give something to the fans that they didn't expect.
00:01:02.100The only thing left is to close the book.
00:02:12.440I told him, I said, you know, if you're getting beat by me, I take so long to make anything that at that point is just an indictment of yourself.
00:02:18.780You know, it literally took me longer to produce the Incredibles video than it took Pixar to produce the film The Incredibles.
00:18:45.480She's like, if you left your mom's in the hood, you're sick to my stomach.
00:18:49.840It's like this weird, like hybrid of like British or like London, UK, and then Canadian a little bit.
00:18:56.860And then just like vaguely third world, like it's terrible.
00:19:02.160No, Toronto is really sad because it, so I experienced this when I went to, you know, Zimbabwe, you know, occupied Rhodesia.
00:19:09.720And it's the same thing I saw in, in, in Toronto, which is the place is dripping and like Victorian architecture, very like distinctly Western art.
00:19:19.320Like it's a beautiful city, the bones of it.
00:19:21.440Like when you're going to the university of Toronto, the campus is spectacular.
00:19:49.860Like, you know, maybe one day, who knows, but you just kind of accept it.
00:19:52.460But Toronto, it's like, things are still kind of functioning to some degree, which makes it even more disturbing.
00:19:57.760Because that's where it feels like it's an uncanny valley, where it's like, this is a third world civilization squatting on what should be Canadians.
00:20:07.140You feel like some kind of animal that's been paralyzed, and you can't move, but you can still like, look down and watch like these things pick at the bones of you.
00:20:15.560And you're like, powerless in some sense to do anything about it, but you're still experiencing it and watching it happen.
00:20:20.580I mean, that's how I feel when I go to DC, just like seeing, you know, these vague, well, not anymore, thank God, because of the Trump admin.
00:20:25.840But, you know, you go to DC during a Biden admin, and you just have to like, walk around and watch these people pick at the bones of your civilization.
00:20:34.100Yeah, there's like this video that was...
00:20:36.300I was going to say, London's very much the same, because it is like walking around the set of the Mos Eisley Cantina.
00:20:42.200But the architecture is this grand civilization.
00:20:48.540Just to illustrate, Westminster Abbey has been there for a thousand years, and unfortunately, they've carved Martin Luther King into the front of it now, dear Lord.
00:20:57.800But they've just put metal detectors for knives in the front of it.
00:21:02.420Now, I don't think there was a mass stabbing epidemic committed by housewives or Boy Scouts in the last, you know, thousand years.
00:21:09.140So, I wonder if the new arrivals that take umbrage to our architecture do that.
00:21:13.060But then, more broadly, I mean, if you walk around Westminster, there's these beautiful buildings that are, you know, you guys say Victorian, they're well, you know, pre-Victorian.
00:21:22.040But in the street, there are these bright pink furry tuk-tuks, these literal like third world cycles, where men from the subcontinent and North Africa just sit around on their phones all day, waiting for some hapless tourist to sit in the back.
00:21:37.120And then it blasts like Katy Perry or Barbie Girl as they're racing through traffic, trying not to get killed.
00:21:42.740There are like fleets of Deliveroo and Uber Eats cyclists with bannaclavas looking like Jawas, like burning through traffic.
00:21:52.680And then all of the shops, because they've been shutting down ever since COVID, because we had crazy New York-style lockdowns nationwide.
00:21:58.100I think we were the like sixth strictest in the world, right behind Cuba.
00:22:00.820But because they've all been dilapidated, all of these money laundering fronts that are run by like dead-eyed Bengalis have opened up.
00:22:08.060And you've got these really neon, like British kitsch tourist stores lining the street from Trafalgar Square down to the Houses of Parliament.
00:22:18.240And they are always empty of customers.
00:22:20.780But you've just got 10 Indian men sort of sitting there on their phones blaring awful pop music with like fake sweets.
00:22:27.200Like, you are literally like a zombie ant fungus living inside my skull.
00:22:35.540Like, this is what people, I think, kind of miss is with London, with these Deliveroo drivers, these people that are rocking up to London, like straight from the third world.
00:22:46.460The analog in the United States would be like Zoran, Memdani.
00:22:50.180What people are missing is they're like, why won't these people assimilate?
00:22:52.500I'm like, they actually have assimilated to the preeminent slop culture that permeates our countries.
00:22:58.440Like, they're not assimilated to what we would consider, you know, actually American, actually English.
00:23:03.860But they have assimilated to the slop.
00:23:05.740And the evidence for that is the way they dress, the way that they have these horrid music tastes that is basically just your top hits.
00:23:13.500Their diets consist of Nando's or, you know, McDonald's and whatnot.
00:23:19.000So it's like they actually have assimilated to the slop culture.
00:23:22.180And all that does when you bring in more and more of these migrants is it further, like, cements the slop as the preeminent culture of your country.
00:23:30.000And it's really, really a depressing thing.
00:23:32.020Apart from all the other problems with mass migration, that's a big one, in my opinion, is that it sort of, you know, permeates it.
00:23:37.980They are not intelligent enough in many cases to be able to conceive of, like, a, say, bullet point list of what our values would be.
00:23:46.780And then they are not historically considerate enough to want to assimilate to a dominated culture.
00:23:52.460Because, I mean, Conor used the word ethno-narcissism.
00:23:55.440There have been books written about that at length.
00:23:57.020That is, like, an actual anthropological concept.
00:23:59.280So they not only are unwilling to do that, I mean, they're demonstrably unwilling to do that, but even, like, with things like, you know, honor, a sense of, like, America especially is very much sort of, like, you know, I'm going to get mine.
00:24:11.840It is considered bad and, like, you know, undesirable to, like, ask for handouts, to accept handouts.
00:24:17.220And in other cultures, they think that if you're not, like, doing everything you can to game the system, it's a sign of, like, unintelligence.
00:24:23.960You're not clever enough, and so these people will spend more than 40 hours a week just coming up with ways to, like, cheat and lie and game the system so that they can accept, you know, handouts from the American taxpayer.
00:24:34.780And I always think back to this was maybe three, four Thanksgivings ago.
00:24:39.280I don't want to say who because I don't know if you would want me telling this story, but someone who's a friend of ours who all of us know, a patriot in the space, his house burned down on Thanksgiving like some fluke.
00:24:50.740His house literally burned down, and he had all sorts of, like, family, friends, and neighbors who were like, oh, my gosh, this is, like, absolutely awful.
00:24:58.020Can you please, like, start, you know, a give, send, go?
00:25:11.300Like, you know, that time of year, you need, like, some money to get you guys right.
00:25:14.560But they didn't do that, and the reason they didn't do that is because they understood that it is not good to accept handouts and to accept charity when you are able of getting back on your own feet.
00:25:25.920It may surely make it easier, and it's even acceptable in such, you know, outlandish, horrible circumstances like this.
00:25:31.400But simply because they possess this sense of, like, honor and self-reliance, they politely declined that charity from their neighbors who, of course, were well-meaning, well-intentioned.
00:25:41.240But still, like, I will never forget that because that is, like, so fundamentally unique in the state of the world.
00:25:47.760But that is something that you could see in this country and broadly throughout the Anglosphere and it not be thought of as, like, special.
00:25:54.080Like, we would hear that story and be like, oh, that's cool.
00:26:26.220I'm not going to be the one giving you money.
00:26:27.680But, yeah, man, it's just like totally just dishonorable.
00:26:31.380You just wire them the $7,000 straight away.
00:26:34.520I want to make a slightly more academic point on this because I keep harping on this because all the boomer cons in my country don't understand this.
00:26:42.420They think that you can just take someone from Mogadishu, drop him in Manchester, have him recite a Scout's Pledge of British Values, and he becomes as inextricable to our history as Henry VIII.
00:26:51.380Part of the reason why we have such an independent culture and just our baseline suppositions of self-reliance is because we have one of the lowest rates of cousin marriage ever in the world, and so do the Anglosphere diasporas, to whom that is second nature.
00:27:06.620Because, I mean, the first Archbishop of Canterbury banned it on the instruction of the church.
00:27:11.060They ratified the ban in the 13th century.
00:27:13.140Even when Henry VIII repealed it to marry his second wife, it was only ever less than 1%.
00:27:17.640And unlike India, we also don't have, like, child marriages that are rampant.
00:27:20.760But in the third world, particularly the Islamic world and India broadly, the rates of cousin marriage are insane.
00:27:28.520I'm just going to read some of the rates.
00:27:30.86020% to 50% of all marriages in the Middle East, West Africa, North Africa, and the Indian subcontinent are cousin marriages.
00:27:39.46080% of all marriages in history are cousin marriages, which is why the Anglosphere is such an exception.
00:27:45.520And then rates in Syria and Iran is 30% to 40%, Sudan and Afghanistan, 40% to 50%, Qatar and Saudi Arabia, 50% to 60%, Pakistan, 65%, Kuwait, 68%, and in other countries like Somalia, they are such a failed state, they don't keep records.
00:28:02.560So that is what we are dealing with when we import these people.
00:28:05.220They literally can't be individualistic because they live their entire lives surrounded by their cousins, who they then marry, and they only ever interact with their family members.
00:28:14.200So why would you not just lie, cheat, and steal to advantage the only people you ever interact with?
00:28:19.120I'm very unwilling to, like, not be outspoken about positions that I know are, like, extremely tactically disadvantageous.
00:28:28.020Like, during the Epstein thing, when everyone was, like, super mad about the Epstein files, they still are, but you remember the peak of it over the summer.
00:28:33.700I got mad about that because it's not like, you know, I'm dismissing the Epstein thing, but it really pissed me off to see all these, like, podcast bros who never had a word to say about immigration, which brings in these populations who marry their cousins, pimp out their daughters, pimp out their sisters, they abuse their women, they abuse their young girls, they have very, very, very different attitudes about age of consent than we do in Europe and America.
00:28:55.860I mean, like, literally, like, child marriages, like you were saying.
00:28:58.960So I hated, like, seeing all these people all of a sudden decide that they care about the abuse of children when, like, they didn't ever have anything to say about the rape gangs, they didn't have anything to say about human trafficking in America.
00:29:11.520They only wanted to get involved when it was, like, this, like, you know, mystical, opaque narrative about freaking elite bad guys, which is a perfectly acceptable position to take because nobody's going to argue with that.
00:29:21.260Nobody's going to argue about what's the problem.
00:29:26.940It's the most popular idea in the world.
00:29:28.660But if you actually took something that was more pragmatically geared towards helping children who are actually being exploited, then the solution there is, like, okay, we need to, like, get these people out of our countries.
00:29:38.640But they don't want to say that because then they're going to step on toes.
00:29:41.260Then their audience is going to be like, hey, man, that's, like, freaking mean.
00:29:45.080My freaking parents were, you know, came here and I was born on U.S. soil or something.
00:29:49.080And so it's just, like, you know, and this is going to sound very performative male, very white nighty, so I don't mean it to say that at all.
00:29:56.600But there is a certain standard of treatment that we have for women that these people simply do not have.
00:30:02.380And what you see now because of guys like Andrew Tate is there's a big effort to describe this kind of, like, fundamentally, like, uncivilized behavior towards women as actually being, like, based.
00:30:12.440So, like, when Muslims, like, marry children or beat the shit out of their wives, that's based.
00:30:19.480And it's, like, okay, yeah, like, I would say that, too, if I were marrying, like, my 75 IQ cousin who's been through, like, three generations of inbreeding and is, like, basically just this, like, this, like, moon that follows me around who I use to, like, breed children.
00:30:32.660But other than that is not, like, a fundamental person with agency.
00:30:36.080Like, yeah, it's easy to get our women out of line because they're more intelligent, okay?
00:30:42.860However, that does not mean that we're going to pursue these other kinds of behaviors which are, like, fundamentally just, like, uncivilized, which we tried to save them from and they are still mad at us for.
00:30:53.400And it's kind of back to your earlier point about, you know, suspending the brother wars until we, like, get the situation resolved because these guys, they'll be the first people to, like, dunk on the state of Alabama and be like, oh, they're all marrying their cousins.
00:31:05.840And then they actually, you look up the actual rate and it's, like, a fraction of, like, 1% versus Pakistan where it's, like, 30, 40, 50, 60, like, sky-high rates.
00:31:16.200I'm so sick of the, yeah, the PC, like, okay, we can dunk on our own people, but we can't address the obvious problems with importing people from these countries, which is, like, odds are they're going to be literally inbred.
00:31:30.000It'd be one thing, too, if it's, like, okay, you know, you're saying this about us, but why can't I say this about you?
00:31:36.620Like, I get that, but what you're saying about us isn't even true, and it is true for you.
00:31:41.260Like, when they talk about, like, the cousin thing, just look up statistics, even in America, okay, no white people are actually, like, doing that with their cousins.
00:31:47.440If they are, like, obviously that's wrong.
00:31:49.380But if you just go on, like, Twitter next week and go on, like, black Twitter, there will be, like, viral tweets with, like, 300,000 likes just, like, y'all excited to see that one cousin or what?
00:31:59.960Like, they, like, literally talk about that.
00:32:02.180Like, I know y'all had that one experience with that one cousin, like, in the closet.
00:32:08.280They all, like, relate to this experience somehow.
00:32:11.260And, again, it goes back to this Bourdainification.
00:32:14.960It got sort of laundered into the right-wing sphere through Andrew Tate, but also from, like, the Vivek side.
00:32:21.280Because this happened, obviously everyone, this is discussed ad nauseum, but the Christmas crash out last Christmas from Vivek where he was, like,
00:32:29.520oh, you know, it's really unproductive that Americans, like, have sleepovers and, like, have football practice when they could be, like, doing homework all day.
00:32:36.920So, from one end of the spectrum, they're, like, doing the whole Andrew Tate, like, 75 IQ.
00:32:41.880But then the other end, there's, like, this striver mentality that is among other immigrants, particularly, like, Chinese and Indian,
00:32:48.860that's equally as, like, unpalatable and unfamiliar to Americans where, like, they can't actually instinctually, like, understand a lot of these things.
00:32:56.100Like, I didn't really study much and I got pretty decent grades just because, like, I kind of just instinctually understood a lot of these things
00:33:01.680where they have to, like, study nonstop to get a grasp on, on, like, basic, you know, basic subjects.