The Culture War - Tim Pool - They Finally Said It...

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00:00:30.000 Last month, a Republican declared that the second civil war has already begun.

00:00:37.000 It's not the first time we've heard something like this be said.

00:00:40.000 As most of you know, I've talked about the prospects of a civil war in this country happening quite a bit.

00:00:44.000 But this was an actual politician or Republican in Indiana saying the redistricting fight that we are seeing,

00:00:51.000 where they are effectively eliminating all opposition voices in their respective states.

00:00:56.000 This is a civil war, or at least it's the guaranteed precursor. 0.57

00:01:01.000 There are a series of events that have occurred over the past several years,

00:01:03.000 which I think are indicative of a second civil war beginning.

00:01:06.000 I don't know if it's fair to say it started right now.

00:01:08.000 That's why the title is a quote from a politician saying it has.

00:01:12.000 There have been many prominent individuals, investors, billionaires saying it's going to happen.

00:01:17.000 And I think it's a high probability.

00:01:19.000 I don't know what it will look like.

00:01:21.000 I don't know the tactics that will be used.

00:01:22.000 But I believe the conflict is already here.

00:01:24.000 Most of you know this.

00:01:25.000 And right now, as we look at Minnesota, more and more,

00:01:29.000 the pundit class across the spectrum from left to right are saying it's civil war in Minnesota.

00:01:34.000 I'll give you a few examples.

00:01:36.000 I've got a video that I want to lead this segment off with for you guys,

00:01:40.000 where an unknown man acting as de facto law enforcement pulls over an Uber driver to demand his papers.

00:01:47.000 Now, now hold on.

00:01:50.000 Who is this authority structure?

00:01:52.000 How do they have a license plate database?

00:01:54.000 What gives them the right to physically assault people?

00:01:57.000 And they do.

00:01:58.000 And pull people over.

00:02:00.000 They're setting up barriers and checkpoints and demanding people's IDs.

00:02:04.000 I have a list of the precursors to civil war, signs that you are in one.

00:02:09.000 And guess what? 0.95

00:02:10.000 We hit all of them on the head with the hammer. 0.93

00:02:14.000 A few examples are the geographic hyperpolarization. 0.65

00:02:17.000 People have been fleeing New York to Florida, California to Texas.

00:02:21.000 And those aren't the only places.

00:02:22.000 When you look at the 2030 census on congressional reapportionment,

00:02:27.000 Texas and Florida are jumping four seats each and the rest of the states are dropping down.

00:02:32.000 There's some other changes in between.

00:02:34.000 The left is going to lose a lot of political power.

00:02:37.000 But then take a look at the redistricting fight.

00:02:39.000 And what's that?

00:02:40.000 Never before in the middle of a decade.

00:02:42.000 We do this after the census, 2020, 2030.

00:02:45.000 We count the people.

00:02:46.000 We say, here are the seats.

00:02:47.000 It started with Texas, but now you have all of these states.

00:02:51.000 It's gerrymandering with new maps to eliminate all opposition voices.

00:02:57.000 A great example already is Massachusetts.

00:03:00.000 It's already like this.

00:03:01.000 Despite being 40% conservative, they have zero Republican seats.

00:03:07.000 I got a map to show you.

00:03:10.000 And a point I brought up before, but I think bears repeating right now.

00:03:14.000 If Congress is going to be 100% state versus state, then what happens next?

00:03:23.000 Because I think that the answer is going to be more geographic hyperpolarization,

00:03:28.000 which will result in more hyperpolarization of each congressional seat.

00:03:32.000 I'll explain more as we get into the video.

00:03:34.000 And then it's going to result in violence like we're already seeing in Minnesota.

00:03:38.000 But don't take my word for it.

00:03:40.000 Republican has already declared it's begun.

00:03:43.000 So let's talk about the news, my friends.

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00:04:34.000 Have y'all seen that movie Civil War?

00:04:36.000 So before I read about what this Republican said, I want you to watch this video so you

00:04:41.000 can understand my friends.

00:04:43.000 The second civil war may be already upon us.

00:04:46.000 Check this video out from the Daily Caller News Foundation, Jorge Ventura.

00:04:51.000 Just from earlier today.

00:04:52.000 Yeah, he's just our Somalian Uber driver, man.

00:05:04.000 Hey, how's it going?

00:05:09.000 You said his license plates are ice?

00:05:13.000 Doing good, yeah.

00:05:14.000 I was just saying it looks like in our system your plates came up as an ice plate.

00:05:20.000 That doesn't seem like it's the case, but I just wanted to come through and see what

00:05:24.000 was up and talk to you and see how you were doing.

00:05:29.000 Okay, I figured, yeah.

00:05:32.000 I think he's clear that's a balling.

00:05:34.000 Yeah, totally, totally.

00:05:35.000 Yeah.

00:05:36.000 This is creepy, dude.

00:05:38.000 Hell yeah.

00:05:39.000 Well, glad to hear it.

00:05:40.000 What's your name?

00:05:41.000 Ali? 0.52

00:05:42.000 Ali? 0.52

00:05:43.000 How long have you guys been out here today?

00:05:44.000 Are we good, though?

00:05:45.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:05:46.000 We're good.

00:05:47.000 I do want to ask, what's the system you guys are using out here?

00:05:48.000 I mean, because it's obvious that was wrong, right?

00:05:49.000 I mean, the guy was just a Somali Uber driver, not ice. 0.71

00:05:50.000 Well, the thing is, ice, you know, they're renting a lot of cars, but yeah, you know, we'll

00:06:04.000 take this off the list.

00:06:07.000 Yeah.

00:06:08.000 So who are these guys running a license plate database, pulling people over and demanding

00:06:14.000 their papers?

00:06:15.000 But wait, there's more.

00:06:17.000 Take a look at this.

00:06:18.000 In this video, anti-ice rioters.

00:06:21.000 Rioters?

00:06:22.000 This is not a riot.

00:06:24.000 These are factions.

00:06:25.000 They're partisans.

00:06:27.000 They're blocking vehicles with out-of-state plates, and they're demanding access to their

00:06:33.000 papers.

00:06:34.000 Take a look at this video.

00:06:36.000 Okay, we're not going to play the audio because we don't need the song playing.

00:06:43.000 The vehicle waves and is allowed through their barricade, and there's still more.

00:06:48.000 In these photos, we can see you've got barricades being set up in the street, blocking people from

00:06:55.000 coming and going.

00:06:56.000 And in this video, the extremists went out and smashed out all the windows of all the

00:07:02.000 vehicles on the street.

00:07:03.000 And they broke into everybody. 1.00

00:07:07.000 All these fucking windows. 1.00

00:07:10.000 Every single fucking window. 1.00

00:07:15.000 Are you fucking kidding me? 0.99

00:07:17.000 These are just working class dudes. 0.98

00:07:19.000 And as you saw in the first video, they believe that everybody's ice.

00:07:23.000 Ice is everywhere.

00:07:24.000 They're going to get you.

00:07:25.000 So what do they do?

00:07:27.000 They're attacking people.

00:07:28.000 They're setting up barricades.

00:07:30.000 Republican declare a second civil war has started in the U.S.

00:07:35.000 Okay, this was a month ago.

00:07:36.000 Oh, actually, this is two or three weeks ago.

00:07:38.000 But let's see what this guy has to say.

00:07:40.000 Is this legit?

00:07:42.000 And after we read this, I want to show you the signs you are in a civil war.

00:07:47.000 And then you're going to look at this and go, I think we might be in one.

00:07:52.000 Newsweek reports, Indiana State Senator Mike Gaskill, a Pendleton Republican, declared

00:07:56.000 on Thursday that a second civil war has already started in the United States as he urged his

00:08:01.000 colleagues to back an ultimately unsuccessful state redistricting push by Trump.

00:08:09.000 I will submit to you that the second U.S. civil war has already started.

00:08:13.000 They're just using surrogates.

00:08:14.000 I submit to you that that's accurate.

00:08:17.000 Despite Gaskill's remarks and significant pressure from Trump, the redistricting effort failed

00:08:22.000 in the Indiana Senate on Thursday.

00:08:24.000 The legislative body rejected the mid-decade redistricting bill by 1931 vote.

00:08:30.000 So we know this about Indiana.

00:08:33.000 But let me let me let me show you this, my friends.

00:08:36.000 This is the map projection after redistricting.

00:08:40.000 You'll notice there's no swing districts anymore.

00:08:43.000 Let me actually pull up the current 270 to win based on the current maps as we know them.

00:08:49.000 Then you can take a look at the difference.

00:08:51.000 Let's see.

00:08:52.000 Let's see.

00:08:53.000 We're going to go with the House interactive map here.

00:08:56.000 Load this bad boy in.

00:08:58.000 As you can see right now, the projection is 19 swing districts.

00:09:04.000 Republicans are losing right now based on the polling.

00:09:07.000 We can see that Democrats are projected to win 210 to Republicans 206 with 19 being toss ups.

00:09:14.000 Those are the swing districts.

00:09:15.000 That's where politicking matters, where you try to convince someone you should vote for

00:09:20.000 my political party.

00:09:21.000 Well, after redistricting, it'll look like this.

00:09:25.000 What the states are doing is there.

00:09:28.000 Let's say a good example being Indiana.

00:09:31.000 Indiana was going to redistrict to eliminate their Democrat seats.

00:09:35.000 Well, the weak Republicans said, but don't.

00:09:39.000 So we're seeing this across the board.

00:09:41.000 Many of these states are seeking to completely eliminate.

00:09:44.000 If they have a simple majority in the state, they want to eliminate the Republican or Democrat

00:09:51.000 districts.

00:09:52.000 And this is what's going to happen.

00:09:54.000 As you can see right here, this basically means the guaranteed Democrat 218 to Republican

00:09:58.000 217.

00:09:59.000 There's no, there's no elections.

00:10:01.000 When this happens, there is no election.

00:10:05.000 Why?

00:10:06.000 It's a foregone conclusion.

00:10:08.000 You already know which district is going which way based on the way they've structured

00:10:11.000 these districts that you're not going to change this.

00:10:14.000 Now, maybe in 10 or 15 years, things might change based on geography, but it's basically

00:10:18.000 saying that Congress will be composed of state versus state.

00:10:22.000 No longer will it be the people of this state have a mixed bag of opinions and some are more

00:10:27.000 moderate and some are more Democrat or conservative.

00:10:29.000 It's literally going to be the furthest left.

00:10:32.000 Now, here's what ends up happening.

00:10:34.000 And then we'll jump to the Minnesota stuff and I'll show you the signs of why you're

00:10:38.000 in a civil war.

00:10:40.000 See what we've witnessed over the past decade is called geographic hyper polarization.

00:10:45.000 I don't know if you need to say hyper.

00:10:47.000 It feels a bit redundant.

00:10:48.000 You could just say geographic polarization.

00:10:51.000 But the general idea is that people in New York are unhappy with how the Democrats are

00:10:57.000 controlling the state.

00:10:58.000 So they moved to Florida.

00:10:59.000 Florida becomes deep red.

00:11:00.000 DeSantis wins by 20 points, but this means that New York becomes blue.

00:11:03.000 So here's how it works.

00:11:06.000 Let's say you get a district in New York, a congressional district, and it's 40% Republican,

00:11:11.000 60% Democrat. 0.94

00:11:12.000 Let's say those Democrats, 10% are lunatic socialists.

00:11:16.000 Well, the candidate comes in and says, if I can get all of the Democrats, it's a guaranteed

00:11:22.000 win.

00:11:23.000 However, there's a primary.

00:11:26.000 And this means that with only 10% far left, you get 40% Republican.

00:11:31.000 If you'd go a little bit more moderate, you got a bigger pool to choose from to actually

00:11:35.000 win.

00:11:36.000 So the Democrats battle it out in their primary and the far left socialist loses because the

00:11:42.000 moderates, they're right leaning conservatives.

00:11:44.000 They're urban conservatives.

00:11:45.000 They're going to vote for the more moderate personality because, well, the Republicans

00:11:49.000 just don't win, right?

00:11:50.000 Well, what happens when these moderates and the conservatives flee the state because the

00:11:55.000 Democrats have gone insane, eliminate that entire pool.

00:11:58.000 And now we're looking at purely just Democrats.

00:12:02.000 No longer are the moderates desires a consideration.

00:12:06.000 The primary happens.

00:12:08.000 The far leftist all of a sudden is competitive.

00:12:11.000 And this shifts the Overton window in New York drastically leftwards.

00:12:17.000 They no longer have an opportunity to secure votes for moderates.

00:12:21.000 The same is true for Florida.

00:12:22.000 The more left leaning candidates are going to, are going to, are going to, are going to

00:12:25.000 lose as the state becomes deeper red.

00:12:27.000 And politicians say as a bigger pool to choose from to the right.

00:12:30.000 Although you're not really getting the most staunch radicals on the right, like you do

00:12:33.000 on the left.

00:12:34.000 This means that Congress itself.

00:12:36.000 Okay.

00:12:37.000 So let's just, I want to make sure I slow this down and say it as cleanly and articulately

00:12:40.000 as I can.

00:12:41.000 Congress itself.

00:12:42.000 If New York no longer has to pander to any amount of moderates or conservatives, this

00:12:48.000 gives socialists a bigger edge and a louder voice.

00:12:51.000 Meaning the person who ultimately wins the congressional seat will be further left. 0.90

00:12:55.000 Then they will go to DC and you are going to have 218 far left socialist lunatics.

00:13:01.000 And you're gonna have 217 staunch constitutional Republicanists.

00:13:05.000 You're not going to have moderate votes anymore.

00:13:07.000 So the Democrats get in after redistricting.

00:13:09.000 It is state versus state and it is far ideology versus far ideology.

00:13:15.000 But let's take a look and then we'll jump to the Minnesota stuff.

00:13:19.000 Uh, I just asked, go to Google signs.

00:13:23.000 A country is falling into civil war.

00:13:26.000 Ah, signs.

00:13:27.000 A country is falling in a civil war include the rise of anocracy, partial democracy with

00:13:30.900 weak institutions, intense political polarization based on identity, race, religion, and ethnicity,

00:13:36.000 and the dehumanization of opponents.

00:13:38.000 Key indicators are declining trust in democratic institutions, organized political violence,

00:13:42.000 and formerly dominant groups fearing a loss of power.

00:13:45.000 Now, wouldn't we all just go ahead and say, that's absolutely what is happening right now

00:13:50.000 in the United States.

00:13:51.000 But wait, how about we read the bullet points?

00:13:53.000 Let's try this.

00:13:55.000 Political structure breakdown.

00:13:57.000 The country moves towards anocracy, a weak, unstable, or partial democracy that mixes democratic

00:14:03.000 and authoritarian elements.

00:14:04.000 Well, yeah, I think we're already there.

00:14:08.000 Why?

00:14:09.000 Well, we still have this illusion of democracy.

00:14:11.000 We're still voting and there still are certain processes in place, right?

00:14:15.000 But Democrats have already arrested Trump and his lawyers.

00:14:19.000 They raided his home.

00:14:21.000 Trump's countering by going after Letitia James, Adam Schiff with mortgage fraud claims.

00:14:26.000 Not very strong.

00:14:27.000 But Comey was also arrested for lying.

00:14:29.000 And we'll see where that goes.

00:14:31.000 Certainly the right is not winning, but the attempts are there.

00:14:34.000 Identity politics is particularly really easy. 0.99

00:14:38.000 The left hates white people. 0.98

00:14:39.000 We get it. 0.99

00:14:40.000 Political violence, plainly obvious.

00:14:42.000 Charlie Kirk is dead and they tried to kill Trump.

00:14:44.000 Dehumanizing rhetoric.

00:14:46.000 Yeah, that one's very obvious. 0.97

00:14:48.000 I mean, Hasan Piker just got banned for saying Zionist pigs on Twitch. 0.84

00:14:52.000 And that's just the most recent example of dehumanization. 0.94

00:14:55.000 Calling everybody Nazis and then telling people to be violent.

00:14:58.000 Loss of status for dominant groups.

00:15:01.000 This one, I think, is absolutely true.

00:15:04.000 White people are not having kids anymore and they were just the de facto country. 1.00

00:15:08.000 You are seeing Christian conservatives being challenged by a rising multicultural democracy.

00:15:14.000 That's just reality.

00:15:15.000 Weakened institutions and corruption.

00:15:19.000 Judicial police and electoral institutions become politicized.

00:15:21.000 Duh.

00:15:22.000 They arrested Trump's lawyers.

00:15:24.000 Okay.

00:15:25.000 By all means, argue Trump's a bad guy.

00:15:26.000 They arrested his lawyers.

00:15:29.000 Okay.

00:15:30.000 You have a constitutional right to be represented.

00:15:31.000 They didn't care.

00:15:32.000 Now you've got judges that are saying, I ain't going to do what I have to do.

00:15:35.000 And blocking Trump.

00:15:36.000 And there's a fight between judges.

00:15:38.000 Militia formation is fairly obvious.

00:15:40.000 The right has already had militias, but the left has been forming them.

00:15:43.000 And civil strife.

00:15:44.000 Roadblocks, checkpoints appear, indicating a breakdown in central authority.

00:15:49.000 And that's what I already showed you.

00:15:51.000 All of these indicators are right before our very eyes.

00:15:53.000 So, uh, is it a civil war yet?

00:15:56.000 Well, honestly, still, I don't know.

00:15:58.000 Of course, people are saying it is.

00:16:00.000 From the hill.

00:16:02.000 Minnesota standoff with Trump administration stokes fears of civil war.

00:16:06.000 Local officials have deemed the surge of immigration enforcement officers, a federal invasion, doubling down in the courts and in public remarks as federal confrontations with Minnesota residents turned violent, then deadly.

00:16:17.000 The fatal shooting of 37 year old intensive care nurse, Alex pretty brought the standoff to a cliff edge and both Trump and the state seem to have changed course.

00:16:26.000 But as the federal government goes toe to toe with democratic state leaders, experts warn of a pressure cooker for civil war.

00:16:32.000 The problem is these crises are like street cars.

00:16:36.000 There's one coming along every five minutes.

00:16:39.000 And while we might be able to avoid severe violence once, twice, three times at some point, we're going to stop.

00:16:45.000 Okay.

00:16:46.000 And something may happen.

00:16:47.000 Thousands of immigration enforcement officers descended on Minneapolis and St.

00:16:51.000 Paul streets amid the administration, so-called operation Metro surge spurred by a sprawling welfare fraud scandal involving the local Somali community. 0.78

00:16:58.000 They're going to mention pretty shooting the shooting of Renee good as well.

00:17:02.000 I mean, is it Fort Sumter asks the governor?

00:17:06.000 It's a physical assault.

00:17:08.000 It's an armed force assaulting.

00:17:10.000 That's killing my constituents.

00:17:12.000 My citizens.

00:17:13.000 Kevin Wade, a civil war era historian and professor at the university of Texas at Dallas said he thinks a path of civil war is neither inevitable nor lacking off ramps.

00:17:22.000 But in April, 1861, when Confederate insurgents fired the first shots on the war on the South Carolina sea fort, there was a much clearer sense that the Rubicon had been crossed in today.

00:17:32.000 I want to fact check that because I don't know that that's true.

00:17:35.000 Fired first at Fort Sumter.

00:17:38.000 Is that what he's referring to?

00:17:39.000 Oh, okay.

00:17:40.000 It is.

00:17:41.000 It is confirmed.

00:17:42.000 Confederate Confederate forces fired the first shot at Fort Sumter.

00:17:44.000 Uh, Edmund Ruffin, the single, the signal shot was ordered by Captain George S. James and fired by Lieutenant Henry S. Farley from Fort Johnson.

00:17:55.000 Um, I just need to stress and make sure this is important to you.

00:17:58.000 The Confederates then were Democrats and the Democrats are much in the exact same insurgent position they were back then as well.

00:18:04.000 The Confederates were wrong to try and, uh, secede from the union.

00:18:08.000 In my view, I believe that, uh, let me, let me, let me give the quick moral and philosophical view that I have.

00:18:14.000 And by all means disagree, comment below and tell me why you disagree.

00:18:16.000 But the argument is this.

00:18:18.000 The American, the American revolutionaries did not immediately want a free nation.

00:18:23.000 They wanted representation.

00:18:24.000 They weren't getting it.

00:18:26.000 This is oppression.

00:18:27.000 You're being told what you can and can't do without a say in, and whether you can.

00:18:30.000 And in the UK, they had parliament.

00:18:32.000 So the colonists upset with parliament had petitioned, failed.

00:18:36.000 They petitioned the King failed and they said, okay, then what is this?

00:18:41.000 We revolt in the American civil war.

00:18:44.000 The South had their say, had their election and lost.

00:18:47.000 They were invited to representation.

00:18:49.000 They still had members of Congress and the Senate.

00:18:52.000 They still had an opportunity to fight, but we're losing the moral battle.

00:18:57.000 So despite the fact they had adequate representation, they decided to break the deal where blood and treasure had been sacrificed to admit these states into the union.

00:19:07.000 And they said, we're going to leave because we lost the democratic game that we all agreed to play.

00:19:12.000 We're going to go do it somewhere else.

00:19:14.000 And this resulted in some others, Texas, for instance, geographically isolated, decided to join largely for that reason.

00:19:20.000 And I believe it was wrong to do today.

00:19:23.000 The Democrats lost fair and square and are actively resisting federal law enforcement operations.

00:19:29.000 These laws have been in the books for decades.

00:19:31.000 The American people voted.

00:19:32.000 We wanted this taken care of.

00:19:34.000 There's an election coming up in the midterms.

00:19:36.000 Instead, both Democrats, Republicans take the blame for this.

00:19:39.000 They are redistricting to make sure there's not going to be a legitimate voice of the American people, just factions bickering and refusing to drop it.

00:19:48.000 How can a multicultural democracy and a constitutional republic coexist in the same borders?

00:19:55.000 They can't.

00:19:57.000 The Hill goes on to say the tug of war of state and federal power has been a feature of Trump's presidency and immigration and crime crackdowns targeted at cities and states led by Democrats.

00:20:06.000 Minnesota state and local officials have sued to get immigration and customs enforcement out of the state.

00:20:11.000 A judge is weighing whether to block the surge.

00:20:13.000 Freya said that Minneapolis will not enforce federal immigration laws, which Trump described as playing with fire.

00:20:20.000 Matthew Pinsker, a historian and author of the Substack, What Would Lincoln Do?, pointed to the exchange as an example of the deeply rooted debate over whether the federal government can direct state and local officials to enforce its laws stemming from the 10th Amendment's anti-commandeering doctrine.

00:20:34.000 It goes back to the 1850s and the Fugitive Slave Act, which both Pinsker and Waite referenced as a historical parallel to the conflict in Minnesota today.

00:20:42.000 The law required the return of enslaved people to their enslavers, even if found in free states.

00:20:47.000 But many free states passed personal liberty laws that effectively obstructed the federal measure.

00:20:52.000 The historians compared the effort to sanctuary cities.

00:20:55.000 It's a serious legal debate that can't be resolved by firing shots at each other on social media.

00:21:00.000 You have to let the process play out in the courts.

00:21:02.000 The Democrats' effort in the long run will be to make second class citizens. 0.95

00:21:06.000 You can come into this country and work, but you don't have citizenship.

00:21:09.000 You can't vote.

00:21:10.000 This is a horrifying system.

00:21:13.000 I'd prefer legal migrants coming into this country, filling out the paperwork properly, waving little American flags, getting jobs and the right to vote like everybody else. 0.99

00:21:21.000 Democrats would prefer second class citizens getting paid a pittance cleaning your bathroom floors. 1.00

00:21:25.000 The Supreme Court in December rejected Trump's bid to send troops to Chicago, saying the president must be able to execute laws with the regular force of the U.S. to justify, U.S. military, to justify calling up the National Guard.

00:21:36.000 Minnesota State Rep. Aisha Gomez told The Hill in an interview that local officials and residents are fighting on every front, that the state's attorney's office is using every single lever that they have at their disposal to oppose the operation.

00:21:49.000 She warned, however, against placing all odds on the courts.

00:21:53.000 Despite the federal government's use of force in Minnesota, it's not a civil war, Sademan said.

00:21:58.000 He explained that civil war requires a sustained campaign of violence by both the government and an opposing force.

00:22:03.000 It's not a civil war unless there's two sides to it.

00:22:05.000 And so the question really is, will the resistance to Trump lead to violence?

00:22:09.000 I'd just like to point out the Syrian civil war had like 12 different factions.

00:22:13.000 I understand that these people are academics and they're learned and such, but I just at least will argue that.

00:22:18.000 The Syrian civil war was like 12 factions early on.

00:22:21.000 They called it a civil war and those factions then began to coalesce.

00:22:24.000 OK, we are seeing these like de facto law enforcement groups forming.

00:22:30.000 They are taking over authority.

00:22:33.000 How much longer until they make uniforms?

00:22:35.000 And they say, we need to be able to easily identify our comrades.

00:22:40.000 So they start wearing armbands or brown shirts.

00:22:47.000 A 2024 simulation by the Center for Ethics and the Rule of Law at the University of Pennsylvania determined that a violent confrontation between state and federal military forces in major U.S. city could start a civil war.

00:22:56.000 Claire Finkelstein, a law professor and founder of the Center, wrote in The Guardian that the state of Plain Minnesota closely mirrors the exercise, which she said was seen as feasible by senior ex-military and government officials who participated in it, especially after the Supreme Court's decision on presidential immunity for official conduct.

00:23:12.000 She noted that a crisis precipitating civil war might move faster than the courts can keep up, leaving state officials without effective judicial relief and service members defying unlawful orders as a last line of defense.

00:23:24.000 The political climate doesn't help.

00:23:27.000 Former Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene, who last year repeatedly called for a national divorce between red and blue states, warned Republicans and Democrats to take off their political blinders to see the stirring conflict.

00:23:36.000 You are all being incited into a civil war, she said this week.

00:23:40.000 Yet none of it solves any of the real problems that we all face.

00:23:43.000 And tragically, people are dying.

00:23:46.000 Ex-Minnesota Governor Justin Ventura, a political independent, suggested the state should secede and join Canada.

00:23:52.000 While Republican lawmakers accused Waltz of fomenting civil war by authorizing his state's National Guard to be staged and ready after good was killed.

00:24:00.000 Pinsker said a lesson from the 1850s, more like today than the 1860s, the beginning of the Civil War period, is that words matter.

00:24:07.000 And both rhetoric and sporadic violence can escalate.

00:24:10.000 Since Freddie's death, both Minnesota officials and the Trump administration have taken steps to tamp down the tensions.

00:24:14.000 It doesn't matter. None of that matters.

00:24:17.000 Trump, of course, as an older guy and Waltz is an older guy are going to be like, we better slow things down.

00:24:22.000 But young people don't care. 0.98

00:24:24.000 You're not going to convince a 30 year old guy to give up after what the left has done.

00:24:29.000 The left's worldview, what they've done to Trump, what they've done to Republican politicians, how they lie, cheat, steal.

00:24:39.000 I mean, that's all a bit vagaries, but how about they advocate for child sex changes? 0.88

00:24:44.000 That's enough, right?

00:24:46.000 They advocate for open borders and illegal immigration.

00:24:48.000 There's no forgiving that worldview.

00:24:50.000 There's no coming to an agreement on it.

00:24:52.000 I'm sorry, but this country is hyper polarized between those who would argue abortion can happen at nine months like they do in Colorado or no abortions at all in Oklahoma.

00:25:01.000 This is political hyper polarization.

00:25:03.000 As more and more people leave their states, conservatives from California, conservatives from New York, and they moved to other states, California and New York become deeper blue.

00:25:13.000 They're going to enforce a whole bunch of crazy laws. 0.97

00:25:16.000 Texas and Florida become more red and they're going to go the other direction.

00:25:19.000 In which case, what happens?

00:25:22.000 What happens?

00:25:23.000 The hypothetical I've entertained, which I don't know is necessarily apt to this current circumstance, but Owen in Oklahoma is seven months pregnant with a baby.

00:25:32.000 For whatever reason, she decides to leave her significant other.

00:25:35.000 She argues he's abusive.

00:25:37.000 He argues he's not.

00:25:38.000 He argues she just wants she had a change of heart.

00:25:42.000 In the early hours of the morning, this pregnant woman flees without saying anything to her significant other, gets in a vehicle with a friend,

00:25:49.000 and they start rushing as fast as they can to Colorado so she can get an abortion. 0.53

00:25:53.000 She thinks she says, if I have this child, I will be trapped this abusive man forever.

00:25:58.000 The left says he's an abuser.

00:25:59.000 Of course, you should terminate the pregnancy. 0.99

00:26:01.000 It's her right.

00:26:02.000 It's her choice.

00:26:03.000 The man says, I am absolutely not an abuser.

00:26:05.000 She's cheating on me. 1.00

00:26:07.000 And she's now having second thoughts about having a family with me. 1.00

00:26:10.000 She's going to kill my son. 1.00

00:26:12.000 Oklahoma says, absolutely. 1.00

00:26:13.000 She's going to kill your son. 1.00

00:26:14.000 Colorado says her body, her choice. 1.00

00:26:16.000 So what happens?

00:26:18.000 What happens if she crosses that state line with the intention to terminate that baby that Oklahoma calls for murder? 1.00

00:26:24.000 Will they charge her with conspiracy to commit murder?

00:26:27.000 Will this pit Oklahoma and Colorado against each other and a weak federal government bifurcated with no ability to mediate here?

00:26:34.000 What happens if that father says, I am going to do whatever it takes to save the life of my child?

00:26:40.000 So he gets a posse and they go to Colorado.

00:26:43.000 This is how these things begin.

00:26:45.000 That's more of a bleeding Kansas type scenario.

00:26:47.000 But I think we're actually seeing is immigration based, not abortion based.

00:26:51.000 We saw bleeding Kansas where people were fighting over whether the territory would be a slave or a free state.

00:26:56.000 They were murdering civilians.

00:26:57.000 They're killing each other.

00:26:58.000 You had the underground railroad where slaves were escaping to the north.

00:27:01.000 And then you had northern states refusing to give back the slaves.

00:27:03.000 Democrats today don't want the illegal immigrants to be removed because who's going to clean their bathrooms, right? 1.00

00:27:10.000 That's what they keep saying.

00:27:11.000 They made the argument that it's about protecting families or whatever, but they opened the border to illegal immigrants and then argue that someone's got to do the job they won't do. 0.56

00:27:18.000 Well, once again, the government's trying to enforce the law and Democrats want their cheap labor. 0.65

00:27:22.000 They want their slaves kept by them. 0.98

00:27:25.000 Only this time they've convinced them it's the right thing for them.

00:27:28.000 So ultimately, what do you get?

00:27:31.000 I honestly don't see how you can calm things down.

00:27:35.000 I do not believe it is a possibility.

00:27:37.000 I really don't.

00:27:38.000 Scripps News says, what factors could lead America to another civil war?

00:27:43.000 This is referring to the same exercise.

00:27:46.000 They saw situations like Portland in 2020, Philadelphia, the killing of an American citizen.

00:27:51.000 That's now happened twice.

00:27:52.000 You really want to feel the federal and state law enforcement officers are working together, but they're not.

00:27:57.000 Let me, let me wrap by just saying this as we, uh, we look at the redistricting stuff and how the redistricting is the beginnings of the war between states.

00:28:07.000 Pretty.

00:28:08.000 He was a violent, radicalized individual.

00:28:11.000 It's sad that he died, but he tried fighting cops while armed.

00:28:15.000 He was obstructing.

00:28:16.000 This is a felony.

00:28:17.000 He had coordinate with the group.

00:28:19.000 Also a felony.

00:28:20.000 He resisted arrest.

00:28:21.000 And it was a tragic, unfortunate circumstance.

00:28:24.000 It appears that one agent saw his gun.

00:28:28.000 Well, it grabbed the gun from him.

00:28:30.000 A shot went out somehow.

00:28:31.000 Maybe the gun, uh, it was an accidental discharge or a, uh, a defective discharge.

00:28:36.000 And then these cops see Prattie holding a black object, his phone.

00:28:40.000 Someone yells, gun, gun, gun.

00:28:42.000 They hear a bang. 1.00

00:28:43.000 They shoot and kill him. 1.00

00:28:45.000 Renee good. 0.99

00:28:46.000 Her tires accelerate to the left towards the officer, which means he likely heard the engine accelerate before her tires spin on the ice and then turn right.

00:28:55.000 All he can see is the hood of the car driving towards him.

00:28:58.000 And he shoots three times in about a second.

00:29:00.000 It's a tragic circumstance, but the reality is these circumstances were both created by the individuals in question.

00:29:06.000 Renee good did not need to try to accelerate to flee with an agent in front of her. 1.00

00:29:09.000 No less blame the agent for being in front of her, but she's the one who pressed the gas.

00:29:13.000 Prattie didn't need to try and fight cops and resist arrest.

00:29:16.000 He had done it before and he did it there.

00:29:18.000 Neither of these people should have died, but this is what happens when you choose to fight the way you do.

00:29:23.000 The left is radicalized by this.

00:29:25.000 They say innocent people murdered and they're using it as justification to expand their communistic control centers, their checkpoints.

00:29:32.000 How does this stop?

00:29:35.000 You tell me I want to be wrong.

00:29:39.000 But every single time we've had this conversation on this show, I've been right.

00:29:45.000 I'm not saying about literally every fact or circumstance.

00:29:48.000 Just the fact that is, we are going to see escalation because neither side is willing to accept the other side's argument.

00:29:54.000 There are communists who want this country to burn.

00:29:57.000 They don't care if Renee good was innocent or Prattie was innocent. 0.75

00:30:01.000 They're usable.

00:30:02.000 And there are people who genuinely believe that Prattie was murdered, an innocent man.

00:30:06.000 And that Renee good and innocent one murdered, they believe it.

00:30:09.000 You're not going to convince conservatives.

00:30:11.000 It's never going to happen, nor vice versa.

00:30:14.000 So then what?

00:30:16.000 Certainly there are some people in the middle of the middle of the road that may be convinced.

00:30:19.000 But unfortunately, I would say this.

00:30:22.000 It does not appear there's an off ramp.

00:30:24.000 It looks like we are in a bleeding Kansas type phase with Minnesota, bleeding Minnesota.

00:30:29.000 And we're going to have Democrats take the midterm where I don't see how the Republicans can hold off to win 2028.

00:30:35.000 If that happens, redistricting doesn't matter in 2030.

00:30:38.000 It is going to be an ideological bifurcation by which the younger generations, more radicalized, refuse to accept the world of the other.

00:30:45.000 It's a sad reality.

00:30:48.000 And I hope we find our way through it.

00:30:50.000 Or to avoid it.

00:30:52.000 Avoid it.

00:30:53.000 I'll wrap it there.

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00:30:56.000 Thank you all so much, Frank.

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The Culture War - Tim Pool - February 03, 2026

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