The Culture War - Tim Pool - TPUSA ROASTED For Empty Event, Media Says THIS IS IT MAGA IS OVER

00:00:00.000 Last night, Erica Kirk announced that she would be canceling her appearance at a Turning Point USA event due to security threats.

00:00:08.080 Candace Owens has accused her of dropping out because of low ticket sales.

00:00:12.220 At the same time, we're seeing articles pop up all over the place saying MAGA is dead.

00:00:18.060 For a while, they were saying it was a civil war.

00:00:20.180 Now they're saying MAGA's dead.

00:00:22.180 Citing examples like Donald Trump backing glyphosate, Donald Trump starting a war with Iran,

00:00:27.500 And now Donald Trump fighting to extend the FISA bill.

00:00:32.820 That's the Foreign Surveillance Act that he said before was used against him.

00:00:37.580 Last night, Tom runs on the show says we want MAGA back.

00:00:42.240 Well, it doesn't seem like that's going to come back anytime soon.

00:00:46.300 Trump seems to have changed on many of his core positions.

00:00:49.620 The argument now is that low attendance at this turning point event was due to the fact

00:00:55.660 that young people feel conned. No Epstein files, new wars, some of the biggest issues that they

00:01:02.180 voted on. Well, they feel betrayed. Now, the mega base, those that back Trump say this is exactly

00:01:08.980 what Trump has always promised, though, to be fair, with bringing on RFK Jr., I don't think

00:01:13.980 glyphosate was included, including not to mention what Donald Trump's saying and FISA. Now he's

00:01:21.400 saying, protect FISA. And of course, no new wars. Yeah, a lot of people feel like the key issues

00:01:27.440 that they wanted did not come about. Now, the question is, does this fall into the fell for it

00:01:34.700 again award category? Now, this meme is used by liberals to mock Trump supporters saying you fell

00:01:41.060 for it again. The only thing is Trump actually does have many accomplishments, which I think

00:01:46.500 we should not ignore. Notably, woke has been routed. Donald Trump said in the second term

00:01:52.440 he was going to end government contracting in DEI. OK, well, major cultural victory there.

00:01:59.300 There are a few other issues that I think people often want to support Donald Trump for.

00:02:03.060 The border is secure. He has fought very hard on tariffs, but there are key cultural issues

00:02:10.200 that reached the forefront in political discourse

00:02:12.940 that many people feel he didn't quite make it.

00:02:17.320 Which brings me to this video,

00:02:18.840 which we'll kick everything off with.

00:02:20.980 This is last night's event where J.D. Vance,

00:02:24.220 the sitting vice president, was coming to speak.

00:02:27.660 And estimates range to about 1,000,

00:02:29.620 maybe 2,000 people showed up

00:02:31.260 for a stadium that was supposed to have

00:02:34.500 was a capacity of 25,000.

00:02:37.300 Let me show you this video,

00:02:38.680 And then we'll get started on what this all means.

00:02:40.980 And the question is, is MAGA dead?

00:02:44.160 My friends, I don't think MAGA is dead, but the coalition may be.

00:02:47.640 Check this video out.

00:02:59.940 Now, here's the interesting thing.

00:03:02.520 The response to this video is that this was filmed at doors.

00:03:06.640 This is not filmed during the actual event, except you can hear J.D. Vance speaking.

00:03:13.280 Well, the theory is this guy or someone faked the video by overlaying audio from later till now, and they're claiming no one's actually sitting in the chairs.

00:03:22.440 Well, I can only tell you this.

00:03:24.240 There are other photos that show it is sparsely attended.

00:03:29.220 The question then is, where is all of the support?

00:03:31.920 And guys, I think it's fair to say the momentum is breaking down.

00:03:37.240 Young people are pissed.

00:03:38.980 You can't ignore it. 1.00

00:03:40.600 What I will also add, I want to stress this to my friends.

00:03:44.780 When people are saying MAGA is dead, MAGA is Trump's core base.

00:03:49.380 He will never lose these people.

00:03:51.280 Facts.

00:03:52.220 This is what they were saying in the first term.

00:03:54.100 They were saying it, you know, when Biden got elected, Trump will never lose his base.

00:03:59.120 But what gets Trump elected is a coalition, including libertarians, moderates, former liberals, etc.

00:04:08.960 Disaffected liberals who might want to go back to the Democratic Party, to be completely honest.

00:04:13.520 So when Trump says mega loves me, well, take a look at this image from the event.

00:04:19.200 You can see that it is sparsely attended.

00:04:23.340 Now, again, the comments from people is that but this is before J.D. Vance was speaking.

00:04:28.320 Well, there are other photos, too.

00:04:30.220 I think we have this right here.

00:04:31.820 This is a close-up shot from the press that was published during the event when J.D. Vance

00:04:36.840 and Colvette were speaking.

00:04:38.520 And you can see the back of the stadium.

00:04:40.740 It is largely empty.

00:04:42.380 Turning Point booked a massive stadium, and they did not fill it.

00:04:46.640 What does that mean?

00:04:47.320 Well, honestly, you guys tell me in the comments what you think this means.

00:04:51.600 But let's get started at the beginning.

00:04:54.320 Erica Kirk, the attacks against her.

00:04:56.020 the change in sentiments, how it's evolved, where we are today, and the question, is MAGA

00:05:02.940 actually dead? Now, before we could do all that, make sure you go to TimCast.com and click join us

00:05:08.220 because TimCast is not dead. We got tens of thousands of members hanging out in our Discord

00:05:13.540 server. It's not what you know. It's who you know. If you want to accomplish something, start a

00:05:18.820 company, find investors, write a song. You need a network. And that's what we have for you. The

00:05:24.400 real value of the TimCast membership is that everybody who's members, they're hanging out.

00:05:30.840 You will meet new people. In fact, some people actually got married in the Discord. I think we

00:05:34.620 have like three or four marriages now. That's pretty wild. But hey, it happened. The most

00:05:39.620 important thing is, as a member, you support the work that we do here. If you like the videos that

00:05:44.220 I make, if you think that they're important, becoming a member, make sure I can continue to

00:05:48.740 do them. And as we're looking at this major fracturing of MAGA or whatever you think is

00:05:54.340 happening, certainly everybody is at, well, I don't want to say they're at war with each other,

00:06:00.160 but people who are once friends are now enemies. And that's kind of where we're going with this

00:06:04.440 story. So let's start here from the Daily Wire. Turning Point USA explains why Erica Kirk was

00:06:11.900 forced to skip the event with J.D. Vance. They say Erica Kirk was scheduled to appear at a

00:06:18.300 Turning Point USA event at the University of Georgia on Tuesday night, but was forced to stay

00:06:23.700 home after receiving what organizers described as very serious threats. Vice President J.D. Vance

00:06:29.020 still moved forward with his planned appearance and delivered remarks to students at the event,

00:06:33.000 which proceeded as scheduled with Turning Point USA leader Andrew Colvitt taking Kirk's place.

00:06:38.880 Vance addressed Erica Kirk's absence at the start, saying he had been concerned the event

00:06:42.780 might be canceled. He said he spoke with the Secret Service and ultimately told Kirk to do

00:06:46.800 what she needs to do for herself and her family. A Turning Point USA official told the Daily Wire

00:06:51.900 late Tuesday that the organization's security had been monitoring threats to Kirk in the days

00:06:56.220 leading up to the Athens event. Kirk's travel location was doxed numerous times, and people

00:07:01.600 were trying to track her arrival and departure, the official said, noting that there were multiple

00:07:06.140 direct threats against Kirk herself specifically. This ultimately led to her security assessments

00:07:11.220 that they couldn't guarantee her safety. The event venue itself was fine, especially once

00:07:16.300 VP was on site, but it was the travel portion that was of chief concern. Her children are one

00:07:21.940 parent away from being orphans, so we take security assessments and advice seriously.

00:07:27.140 Erica Kirk posted an ex during the event saying that after all our family has been through,

00:07:30.840 I take my security team's recommendations seriously. And then we have this on Reddit,

00:07:37.080 r slash murdered by words. What does that mean? They're insinuating that Candace Owens

00:07:42.660 roasted Erica Kirk with this 1.00

00:07:44.800 takedown. Candace

00:07:46.740 Owens, she posted

00:07:48.480 on X. Stop. This is

00:07:50.840 exhausting. You pulled out because

00:07:52.820 of bad ticket sales. For the same reason

00:07:54.700 TP Faith had to reschedule the

00:07:56.600 Pastors Summit and various other events

00:07:58.700 quietly. People don't believe

00:08:00.840 you and don't line up for you because you struggle

00:08:02.900 to tell the truth about even the most basic

00:08:04.900 facts. Where is the video of

00:08:06.760 Charlie appointing you as CEO weeks before

00:08:08.800 his death? The Secret Service sits

00:08:10.720 above your security team, were there actually a viable threat? The vice president would not have

00:08:16.540 continued the event. Your closest threat is the ish public relations team you hired that continues 0.98

00:08:21.940 to operate under the delusion that they are smarter than the public they aren't. Oh boy,

00:08:28.220 murdered by words, they said. That's how they describe it. We have this post from Carrie

00:08:33.600 Prejean Bowler, who said, after all our family has been through, do you mean after your husband

00:08:39.120 was assassinated in front of the world. This is so weird. I can't stand any of this psychotic

00:08:45.300 nonsense. I'll say this. I got no problem pointing out, guys, the turning point event was dead. 0.97

00:08:53.320 It was empty. Guys, the vice president was there. Where is everybody? I'm not here to blow smoke up

00:09:01.380 anyone's behind. OK, there's probably a million and one reasons why the stadium was empty,

00:09:07.900 But it was 25,000 capacity, or it's an arena, actually, I guess.

00:09:12.720 And about 1,000 to 2,000 people showed up.

00:09:15.300 Hey, 1,000, 2,000.

00:09:16.420 Hey, that's not so bad, but we're in a midterm year.

00:09:18.680 We need to be rallying the troops, and Turning Point is struggling to do it.

00:09:22.780 And you know whose fault it is? 0.80

00:09:24.380 It's Candace Owens.

00:09:26.060 You don't have to like Turning Point USA.

00:09:28.100 I don't care.

00:09:28.580 But the truth is, they were the boots-on-the-ground organization that got Donald Trump elected.

00:09:33.060 The problem?

00:09:34.000 Listen, guys, let's not mince words.

00:09:36.140 You can be mad at me all you want, but don't shoot the messenger.

00:09:39.560 Trump defended.

00:09:40.640 Do I have all this stuff pulled up?

00:09:42.620 Texas Farm Bureau.

00:09:44.120 Trump issues executive order on glyphosate.

00:09:47.340 Maha just.

00:09:49.420 I'm going to avoid swearing.

00:09:51.100 They just dropped a brick.

00:09:53.680 We'll say it like that. 0.57

00:09:55.380 Yo, this is the antithesis of Maha.

00:09:58.240 For those that don't know what glyphosate is, it's a desiccant.

00:10:01.360 They spray on crops to dry them out faster so they can get them to market faster. 0.99

00:10:06.140 And the Maha Corps views this as poisoning our food supply. 0.84

00:10:11.840 Donald Trump came out issuing an executive order prioritizing U.S. production of glyphosate, 0.57

00:10:17.500 citing the herbicides critical use to national security.

00:10:21.080 Thus, Maha is apoplectic.

00:10:23.840 But wait, there's more.

00:10:26.280 Donald Trump, this is just today, arguing for an extension of FISA.

00:10:32.340 Check this out.

00:10:33.060 Posting to X, Lauren Boebert says,

00:10:35.220 no way. House leadership is still trying to ram through a clean FISA extension with zero form,

00:10:42.020 zero warrants and zero accountability. This is the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

00:10:46.540 Donald Trump had previously said we needed to end this because it was used against him.

00:10:52.780 My friends, not to mention you have the war with Iran. Now, I actually think Trump's got a larger

00:11:00.260 plan here, but I can point to these things and say, if you are coming to me and you are arguing

00:11:07.120 that I'm wrong about all of this, I think you need to take a closer look at what is going on.

00:11:14.960 The libertarians who back Trump are out. Joe Rogan, Diovan, Tim Dillon. I mean, Tim Dillon had

00:11:22.460 I saw this clip from him. I want to be careful because I don't know the context, but it was a

00:11:25.940 clip where he was saying that MAGA was a con the whole time. You are losing the middle. So people

00:11:32.840 aren't going to be showing up. I think what we're seeing from young people is that they don't trust

00:11:38.860 that the culture war issues they had focused on, Trump was going to deliver on. Now I'm going to

00:11:44.120 say this, USAID's shuttering and reconfiguration into a smaller organization under Marco Rubio,

00:11:51.120 Fantastic.

00:11:52.560 This is the liberal economic order, WEF garbage, being struck down, securing the border, tariffs, 0.87

00:12:00.360 U.S. manufacturing. 0.72

00:12:01.280 I think Trump has done many good things.

00:12:04.120 And if Trump successfully cuts off China from their energy supply with the Strait of Hormuz,

00:12:08.140 that's going to greatly benefit the United States. 0.68

00:12:10.520 You don't have to argue the morality.

00:12:11.940 I'm not arguing that.

00:12:12.760 I'm just saying these things will benefit the United States.

00:12:14.560 But for a lot of the culture warriors, young people who entered the fray, they saw turning point.

00:12:21.820 They were inspired by Charlie and Charlie is gone.

00:12:25.300 So I will say this.

00:12:27.900 With Charlie Kirk's death, I asked this question and boy, did they get mad.

00:12:32.420 I said, can they survive without Charlie Kirk?

00:12:35.900 In fact, the way I actually said it wasn't a question.

00:12:37.220 I said, there are people who fear turning point will not make it without Charlie.

00:12:42.480 Charlie was turning point. Turning point was Charlie. But don't get me wrong. There's a lot

00:12:47.140 of people who work there who do a great job. Erica Kirk is certainly trying. And you just

00:12:53.060 Charlie had that magic. That's why they killed him. Now, again, when I say they, you say,

00:12:59.820 who is they, though? Well, honestly, I don't know. I believe Tyler Robinson most likely is

00:13:04.000 the suspect. I believe that the official story is likely not the full picture. I believe that

00:13:08.840 this man, if he did do it, I don't believe the shooter acted alone. I believe we have evidence

00:13:13.160 that other people had foreknowledge of what was going to happen. And there was a motive to stop

00:13:18.080 Charlie Kirk. Now, without Charlie, Turning Point seems to be having a rough go of things.

00:13:24.240 But I'm going to throw it to Candace and give her all the credit. And I'm going to say credit

00:13:27.640 for those that don't like Turning Point, don't want Republicans to win. Candace has been a boon,

00:13:33.900 a godsend. I will get into the minutiae a little bit and address this, though. Candace is attacking

00:13:40.380 Erica Kirk, saying she pulled out because of bad sales. Maybe, you know, to be honest, I don't

00:13:46.960 think it's all that unreasonable. I'll put it like this. How would you feel, right? If you booked a

00:13:54.220 stadium, it's not an arena, sorry, it's 25,000, not 100, and only a few thousand people were

00:14:00.580 going to attend. You'd be like, oh, am I going to travel, go through all this and like the events

00:14:06.520 not even working? You might be like, eh, not really interested. I mean, that's how I'd feel.

00:14:15.020 I mean, I'd still go, but I get that. That being said, let me tell you about the lies and the

00:14:22.160 manipulations of Candace Owens. When she says, and they play this game, right? The reason I 1.00

00:14:27.940 highlighted this other tweet where it's like, that's so weird. Weird is the word they use

00:14:32.780 to signal to women that it is out of line with social order because this is largely the female 1.00

00:14:39.800 motivator. No, ladies, I'm not trying to disparage you, but women are motivated by social cues. 1.00

00:14:44.940 That's why Candace Owens has a Stanley Cup on her desk when she does her show. It's a signal to 1.00

00:14:49.860 women. This is the socially acceptable show for women. Candace Owens is an anti-vaxxer. She has 1.00

00:14:55.380 targeted the MAGA base. This brought in about 9 or 10 million votes for Donald Trump, which put

00:14:59.880 him over the edge. They are now breaking away from Trump and the right, largely. Let's be real,

00:15:05.360 Trump glyphosate thing, that's big. Look, you might like Trump, but that's a nuclear bomb for

00:15:10.580 Maha. But let me talk about security. Before they even announced this, like the reasoning,

00:15:19.080 people were like, why would the vice president go, but Erica Kirk wouldn't? And my response was,

00:15:23.200 because transit may have been the threat and she's a single parent, like they're concerned

00:15:28.480 about her safety more so than J.D. Vance. She doesn't have secret service. I mean,

00:15:31.960 that's just the first thing I think of. And that's exactly what they said it was.

00:15:37.140 Erica Kirk transporting to the event was the security risk. And our security team said,

00:15:44.200 I don't think we can guarantee your security. You know why? This one's personal to me.

00:15:50.380 When Charlie Kirk was killed, they announced his funeral.

00:15:55.180 It was going to be this big event.

00:15:56.740 And I was invited to attend, along with the likes of the vice president and so many of

00:16:01.420 my friends and people in the space.

00:16:04.020 And I wish I could have gone.

00:16:06.580 And there's a reason why I couldn't have gone.

00:16:08.620 I get death threats like crazy.

00:16:11.040 I think I get more death threats than a lot of people.

00:16:13.020 And it's probably because I'm antagonistic on X and I post crazy things.

00:16:16.580 But whatever, I do it to myself to a certain degree.

00:16:18.780 I'm not going to blame myself for the fact that making a joke results on someone to kill

00:16:22.280 me, but they do.

00:16:23.920 In the span of a couple of years at our old location, we've been swatted something like

00:16:27.180 13 times.

00:16:27.880 The bomb squad came out several times.

00:16:29.700 We had credible threats.

00:16:31.360 When it came to travel for this event, we had credible threats.

00:16:36.420 I have been in contact with the FBI over these credible threats.

00:16:39.880 We have had people posting videos making direct threats to kill me and my family.

00:16:43.400 I contacted, let me give you an example of what a credible threat is. I get threats all the time.

00:16:50.240 I ignore them. A credible threat. We were in the castle. This is a few years ago. This is,

00:16:54.960 it's crazy how long it's been, you know, when we're at the old studio. And in the middle of

00:16:59.780 doing the show, I get, there's a knock on the door and our security is there. And they say,

00:17:05.520 did anyone, you know what? I got to, I got to, I don't want to give away the security information

00:17:10.780 on this one. Let me keep it a little bit more vague. They said, can you confirm detail this

00:17:15.220 detail? And I said, yes, that happened. And it was seemingly innocuous. And he went, OK,

00:17:20.820 we're evacuating right now. I was like, whoa, we got to we have a bomb threat.

00:17:26.400 Someone sent in a bomb threat with information about a specific incident that occurred that

00:17:32.420 was innocuous. I don't want to go into detail, but over the weekend, we had done something

00:17:38.520 seemingly innocuous, but not public. When I say innocuous, let me give you a facsimile. Let me

00:17:44.320 give you something likened to it. We grilled burgers. That's about it. Something like that

00:17:52.100 happened. And someone called in a bomb threat saying, when Tim and his crew and family did

00:18:01.320 this specific thing, I did this other thing at the same time. Basically insinuating that access

00:18:07.620 to information no one should have, which could suggest they were present on the property without

00:18:12.740 our knowledge. So we evacuated the building for several hours because it was a credible threat.

00:18:19.000 When it came to traveling to Arizona for this event, I did not go. And the reason why is

00:18:25.300 my security team said, of course it is possible. Here's the cost. Here's the plan. And I said,

00:18:32.220 holy crap, I'm not doing this. They said a few things that I'll get into. I won't get into a 0.92

00:18:38.820 lot of the core details because explaining our security plan compromises our security.

00:18:43.460 But they said, here's what's going to have to go down. I'm going to remove some of the security

00:18:47.920 stuff and just say, you know, I can't explain everything. But some of it was three guys will

00:18:53.280 meet you at a black SUV. We'll drive to the airport. You will exit the SUV. Those three

00:18:58.960 guys will walk you in, bring you to the TSA checkpoint where they will have tickets for

00:19:05.480 the flight. They will fly with you. When they land, they will walk you out where there will be

00:19:10.500 three guys waiting in an SUV to drive you to the hotel. In that hotel, they will stand outside

00:19:17.040 your hotel room the entire time you're there. We recommend not leaving. You will then be transported

00:19:23.780 with with three bodyguards in a vehicle through the building, brought in. And I said,

00:19:28.720 and how much is it going to cost? There are a few other details to it. And I was like,

00:19:32.600 I can't do this. That's likely what happened with Erica Kirk. They probably said, we can get you

00:19:38.800 there, but you're going to need three vehicles. You're going to need guards in each vehicle.

00:19:44.220 And then we'll get you there. And she's like, I don't want to do this. And you know what? I got

00:19:49.360 to be honest. Let's just combine these things. She hears the ticket sales are dead. 1,000,

00:19:57.700 2,000 people might show up. She's then told they're going to spend 20 grand. She can be

00:20:02.240 surrounded by guards. They're going to get her in, get her out. And she's like,

00:20:06.180 I don't want to do this anymore. I got to be honest. I want you to imagine you're in this

00:20:13.380 position. You set up this big event with the vice president. Ticket sales are abysmal. And then you

00:20:20.700 have to be just brought in by armed guards in this big show of force. It's a nightmare. Would

00:20:27.000 you not also be depressed? Just like, I can't do this anymore. I wonder if Erica Kirk is just like,

00:20:34.060 I don't want to do this. I'll tell you what my thoughts are. I know Erica not particularly well,

00:20:38.620 But my assessment is that after Charlie's death, they have this hundred plus million dollar network organizations, powerful interests and donors probably said, who's taking over?

00:20:52.140 And they said, it has to be a Kirk.

00:20:54.240 It has to be Erica.

00:20:56.300 It can't be Colvin.

00:20:57.920 It can't be any like, who are these guys?

00:20:59.860 You know, it's got to be someone with some connection.

00:21:02.960 And they asked her to do it.

00:21:04.160 And she probably agreed to.

00:21:06.540 Well, she literally did.

00:21:07.500 Here she is.

00:21:08.620 And now she's being attacked mercilessly.

00:21:11.020 No matter what she does, it's wrong.

00:21:13.060 No matter what she does, it's crazy.

00:21:15.340 But here's the thing.

00:21:16.720 I know we're supposed to be talking about next question is mega dead, but I want to say this.

00:21:21.220 Candace Owens evolution. 0.99

00:21:23.420 First, she was very nice to Erica because you could not attack the widow. 1.00

00:21:26.940 Now she's just beating the crap out of Erica publicly nonstop. 0.92

00:21:32.860 We're going to lose the midterms.

00:21:35.100 The Democrats are going to win. 0.57

00:21:37.160 It's going to be because of Candace Owens, not entirely, but largely. 0.97

00:21:41.940 She built and amassed a large following, attacking Erica Kirk, because to be honest, 0.98

00:21:48.000 the political space is kind of dead right now.

00:21:50.180 There's not a lot going on.

00:21:51.360 People are demoralized.

00:21:52.460 They're largely checking out.

00:21:54.560 Well, for me, I'm just kind of here to tell you what I see happening, right?

00:21:59.280 The American conservative says MAGA is dead.

00:22:01.980 Newsweek says, was this the week MAGA died?

00:22:03.920 And we have this video from Dave Smith talking with, I believe it's Professor Jang and Sneeko.

00:22:10.360 I think this video is very important.

00:22:11.940 A lot of people are making fun of Dave.

00:22:13.820 I have some critiques of his statement, but I think it's worth listening to at least a little bit.

00:22:17.400 Let's play it.

00:22:19.700 Don't worry, we'll get the audio going.

00:22:21.600 Left in the midterms.

00:22:22.400 There we go.

00:22:22.780 What do we do in Gen Z and for Gen Alpha?

00:22:25.220 Do we vote left in the midterms?

00:22:29.100 Well, I don't, you know, I don't know.

00:22:32.080 you know, when it comes to voting, right, like there's, again, voting is like a strategic thing.

00:22:38.000 That's what voting is about. It's like you have this little bit of a tiny little shred of authority

00:22:45.180 over one election and then nothing else. That's just the hand you're dealt. And so what's your

00:22:49.900 strategy there? Now, there are arguments all around. I mean, look, there is an argument that

00:22:55.780 we'd be better off if Kamala Harris was president today. At this point, that's not that tough of an

00:23:01.100 argument, and part, at least for me, of the best, strongest argument that we'd be better off with

00:23:06.140 Kamala Harris, is just that the whole resistance would still be the resistance. And you would,

00:23:11.400 you know, the... So I want to pause real quick before he goes, and I want to add that I half

00:23:15.800 agree. I half agree. If his argument is that everything would be the same, but you'd at least

00:23:21.960 still have a large right that is coalesced around stopping these things, you have the cultural

00:23:28.140 victory. I do agree. However, I have to stress, not only would we still have all these wars,

00:23:33.060 people would be in jail, children will be getting sex changes. I have to say there is no strong

00:23:38.600 argument that we would be better off. We'd be worse off, but we'd have cultural resistance.

00:23:44.220 I'd call that moot. In a kind of, I don't know, maybe counterintuitive way. Sometimes the best

00:23:51.040 thing, if you're a right winger, is for a Democrat to be the president. And sometimes the best thing,

00:23:56.220 if you're a left winger is for a Republican to be the president. If you want to rally people and

00:23:59.860 make money, but the point is this, the right won everything. So what did that rage turn into?

00:24:05.160 Apparently nothing. Because if they really blow it and they really mess up, it gives all of the

00:24:10.360 like cultural energy back to you. And the best case of that is like, just look at from a cultural

00:24:17.440 perspective, the right lost everything through the first four years of Donald Trump. If you

00:24:23.000 remember this was the rise of the craziest wokeism in in america was all in donald trump's first term

00:24:28.780 and they only finally had some cultural victories when it was joe biden that's right and he was in

00:24:34.160 there and then all of a sudden you started having things like the the bud light light boycott and

00:24:38.580 the target boycott and i mean elon musk bought twitter in those years like there were a few

00:24:42.700 major factors that happened but anyway look i think there is an argument that the best thing

00:24:49.900 right now is that the Democrats win the midterm elections because the Republicans just have to be

00:24:54.120 punished for this. Like it's there's got to be a message that like you do this. There is a cost to

00:24:59.480 it, except they don't care. There is no real cost to it. They will just keep doing the same thing.

00:25:05.800 But what I will what I will give David is right about when Democrats were in power, when Biden

00:25:10.880 won the right unified against their cultural endeavors and won the battles where they could

00:25:18.280 Not in office, not with law. They went after Trump, they went after Trump supporters, but culturally the right pushed back against censorship, shut down the weird woke stuff, boycotted these companies.

00:25:29.920 But now that's all fracturing because when the right took political power, Trump failed on several key issues.

00:25:37.880 Even if that means we have to give ourselves the Democrats in Congress.

00:25:41.000 But giving ourselves the Democrats in Congress is a different thing than, say, like, giving the Democrats the White House and both chambers of Congress, where now they can go crazy with their agenda.

00:25:50.660 So, like, but I just kind of think the Democrats are going to win anyway.

00:25:54.400 So I don't really I'm not signing up to vote for no Democrats.

00:25:57.140 You know what I mean?

00:25:57.640 Like, I just I don't know if I'll ever put my name like if I'll ever vote for a major party candidate again, unless like Thomas Massey or someone like that runs.

00:26:04.520 I just I will.

00:26:05.540 I've never looked at Donald Trump as a messianic figure.

00:26:08.860 He's just a guy who's slightly better.

00:26:11.000 I didn't vote for him in 2016, nor Hillary Clinton, because I viewed them both miserably,

00:26:14.760 probably agree with Dave on a lot of these things. And I actually think Dave would be the best

00:26:18.740 candidate. And a bunch of Trump guys, they share this clip where I was saying when I was in Austin

00:26:24.460 that if I had to vote for a president, it'd be Dave Smith, even though I disagree with a lot of

00:26:27.860 things. The reason why, well, the funny thing is, I think Dave, Dave, I'm gonna say this, if you hear

00:26:32.460 this, we can both admit that if you became president, you'd have a cold wake up call when

00:26:37.040 the intelligence file slamming your desk and you learn all the things you did not know that was

00:26:41.160 classified. But in terms of a real guy that's going to focus on America first issues, I think

00:26:46.760 that's going to be Dave Smith more than anybody else. I'm not saying he, listen, listen, I'm going

00:26:51.820 to say it again. Dave is not anybody's savior. He could have been the front runner, but libertarians

00:26:56.160 aren't going to win anyway. What the libertarians can do is apply pressure so that the, they can

00:27:01.580 say, we'll give you our 3% in exchange for something. And RFK when you're getting in was

00:27:05.440 fantastic. The parting of Russell was great. You know, it's one thing, but I'm glad to see that

00:27:10.160 that happened. It was good. Trump kept his word. Ultimately, I think, you know, it would have been

00:27:16.620 great if Dave stayed in the race, dropped out, endorsed Trump, and then got a cabinet position

00:27:23.120 because this could have prevented a lot. But I'm going to be honest with you. And I say this for

00:27:28.280 Dave as well. I think the reality, the truth, when you guys actually get into that seat of power,

00:27:36.660 you realize just how strung up you really are. Dan Bongino, everybody's mad. He came out and

00:27:44.080 said Epstein killed himself. What happened? Yeah, I think Dan got in there and saw what was behind

00:27:48.800 the curtain and went, oh, crap. I think Trump got in there, saw behind the curtain and said, 0.98

00:27:53.160 oh, crap. And you can call it any conspiracy theory you want. But I wonder if the reality is 0.99

00:27:58.840 every time Tulsi Gabbard, come on, she's working for Trump while Trump's starting a regime change 1.00

00:28:03.780 war. Tulsi Gabbard must have saw behind the curtain and said, oh, crap. I'm a realist, guys. 1.00

00:28:11.000 I'm I try to be pragmatic, reasoned, dispassionate as often as I can, although I rant and get angry

00:28:18.840 about many things. On calculating probabilities and what I think is going to occur, I try to be

00:28:23.560 dispassionate. I think the reality is this. I think we as a generation of post-intervention

00:28:29.680 stress disorder, these regime change wars have failed us in a lot of ways. We have also been

00:28:33.980 propagandized mercilessly, so it's hard to know what is. There's a recursive propaganda loop where

00:28:39.000 one generation propagandizes the next, creating a network of idiots. We grew up living in a world 1.00

00:28:45.720 where we believe the news is true, but the truth is probably so far removed for what is actually

00:28:51.140 happening, we're clueless. We are built upon generations of propaganda, from the Civil War

00:28:58.800 to the Federal Reserve to World War I and II. We are always told what to believe and why.

00:29:06.140 There was a U.S. Department of Censorship. So I think what happens for a lot of these guys is

00:29:10.220 they get into the office, they are given the security briefing and intelligence,

00:29:13.960 and then they realize everything they thought is just the inverse of what actually is.

00:29:19.740 I think that's true for Trump right now. The story of Trump and the Iran war is interesting

00:29:24.800 because regardless of what you think is or should be happening, there are facts. China just lost

00:29:31.200 access to half of its energy, though Trump is arguing he's reopening the strait. They'll get

00:29:35.320 it back. Venezuela is under U.S. influence. Cuba is sanctioned on the verge of collapse. Iran's

00:29:40.220 government's been blown up. Now, Trump was supposed to be the not war president. But could it be that

00:29:46.500 we have been propagandized by a political machine from Democrat and Republican trying to steal power

00:29:50.920 so much that we actually don't even know what's close to reality? The story goes, we mock North

00:29:58.240 Korea. We make fun of them. We say that, you know, they live under the boot of a dictator and they 1.00

00:30:02.740 don't even know it's true. They believe all these lies. Maybe that's the same for us as well.

00:30:08.000 Now, we've been swimming in so much propaganda that things that are obviously false to those

00:30:11.460 who have access to the intelligence are presumed to be true by the general public.

00:30:16.320 The moon landing is a good example.

00:30:18.340 The theory goes that it never happened. 0.75

00:30:20.960 It was a soundstage and the government did it to terrorize the Soviets, like literally

00:30:25.300 to make them think that we could make bombs that would go to the moon and blow them up

00:30:28.340 and that we had better capabilities than they did.

00:30:30.880 What if that's true?

00:30:32.420 The general public thinks we went to the moon.

00:30:34.260 From there, you have decades of trying to maintain a moon lie.

00:30:39.220 Now people are largely not believing it.

00:30:41.860 I think we went to the moon, guys.

00:30:43.100 I really do.

00:30:43.680 I think we did.

00:30:44.440 I think this is a justification for a massive weapons program to build the most powerful

00:30:49.380 rockets at the time and basically send a message to the world that we can launch a bomb into

00:30:53.600 space, put it on the moon, and then blow you up with it.

00:30:56.540 You can't, as a government, go to the people and say, we want to build a moon bomb.

00:30:59.320 so you say we want to do great things for mankind wouldn't it be great we're explorers

00:31:08.160 and then everyone cheers for it they agree with it we spend the money on it and the real plan is

00:31:13.220 we want to develop weapons like crazy so here's the thing let's say it's true the moon landing

00:31:19.260 was faked this is just an example of my point from that point on the u.s government says let's 0.76

00:31:25.640 stage this thing so we can scare the Russians, the Soviets. The American people believe it. 0.57

00:31:31.120 Ten years later, the American people say, we want to go to the moon. And you go, yeah,

00:31:34.680 we'll do it again. And they do. Now, 40, 50 years on, the people are saying, why haven't we gone to

00:31:41.300 the moon? You get Artemis II. Now, truth be told, guys, I think we went to the moon. I think people

00:31:47.960 just exaggerate the difficulty. For our degree of technology, it seems rudimentary. Fire a rocket.

00:31:56.160 We have rockets.

00:31:56.920 I've seen them.

00:31:58.100 You can make little ones.

00:31:59.620 And then you calculate the path of the moon, and you lead the target, and you go, and you

00:32:03.420 wrap around it, whatever you're going to do.

00:32:05.120 My point is simply that we know propaganda is real.

00:32:08.700 We know the government has lied to us.

00:32:10.440 But those lies become history.

00:32:12.260 So what happens when the propaganda that you launched in an effort to get us into a war

00:32:16.820 turns into a history that persists for generations, and children grow up believing that propaganda

00:32:22.580 to be true?

00:32:24.140 Then that child grows up, gets a job in the CIA or in deep intelligence agencies working

00:32:30.660 at the Pentagon, and they say, oh, by the way, here's the real history.

00:32:34.460 We made that up.

00:32:35.340 We made that up.

00:32:36.000 We made that up.

00:32:37.140 This was us.

00:32:38.160 That thing that Alex Jones was talking about, actually, we gave it to him.

00:32:42.280 And then they're going, huh?

00:32:44.080 Yeah, Syria doesn't even exist. 0.82

00:32:46.800 Not even on the map.

00:32:48.260 You never even been there, have you?

00:32:49.420 Of course you haven't.

00:32:50.200 It's not a real country.

00:32:51.140 It's actually just a big, empty piece of water.

00:32:54.060 We put it on the map to scare kids.

00:32:56.700 I'm kidding.

00:32:58.040 But things like that probably are how it really goes.

00:33:00.820 And that means, Dave, buddy, come on.

00:33:04.620 If you or I or anybody else actually got into office, we'd disappoint everyone.

00:33:09.840 Because you'd get in there and they'd slide you the paper and be like,

00:33:12.340 here's what actually happened.

00:33:14.720 So we asked these questions about Epstein.

00:33:16.280 I'd like the answers, but I can't just be angry. I don't know. I want to know. But what if it's like

00:33:25.080 Epstein was, you know, just come up with a million and one, you know, reasons for why they wouldn't

00:33:32.120 want to release the Epstein files. He was blackmailing powerful world leaders, and he has a

00:33:37.000 dead man switch that if they ever reveal anything, a random person who's a confidant of Epstein who

00:33:43.760 was in the files will release incriminating evidence or I can make up a million and one

00:33:49.240 reasons. Let's say you get an office and Dan Bongino goes, OK, the first thing we got to do

00:33:54.080 is this Epstein stuff. And they say, Dan, three guys on the Epstein list have zero day exploits

00:34:01.240 that will take down the U.S. economy. If we release this, we're being blackmailed.

00:34:05.800 If you expose them, the U.S. economy collapses overnight.

00:34:09.000 Okay, what do we do? We can't do anything. I'm not saying that's true. I'm just saying

00:34:15.060 the reason why I think we are let down by Dan Bongino or Cash is because once they get in,

00:34:20.040 they go, oh, yeah, the things you can actually do, you are constrained. I wish it were so simple.

00:34:25.940 I wish it were so easy. You tell me why Donald Trump flipped on these key issues like FISA,

00:34:30.380 the Iran war. Well, to be fair, the Iran war, Trump said he would not allow Iran to get a

00:34:39.000 and FISA. Those are big. All I can say is this. I don't know about Turning Point,

00:34:43.960 but it does seem like the steam is gone. And it could just be that we're in this cycle. Guys,

00:34:50.940 why didn't people show up to a Turning Point event? It's warm out. They went to hang out

00:34:56.120 with their friends, watch movies, and just relax for once. We have been so strung up for so long.

00:35:02.060 I get people hitting me up being like, Tim, is your engagement down? And I'm like,

00:35:05.320 in some areas, but I think for the most part, we've been doing pretty good.

00:35:07.560 I think we're fairly lucky here at Timcast.

00:35:11.420 One of our episodes, our episode from two days ago, got over a million, over a million

00:35:15.180 views.

00:35:15.860 A couple weeks before that, another million.

00:35:17.580 We've been actually doing really well, surprisingly.

00:35:20.900 We've been doing like 700K.

00:35:22.540 I was mentioning before that our views had dipped a little bit, but in the past month,

00:35:26.420 they've been popping up like crazy.

00:35:28.800 I wonder what it is.

00:35:30.300 Honestly, some people are seeing a big hit.

00:35:32.620 We're actually doing pretty dang well and a bunch of stuff in the works, so I'm pretty

00:35:37.100 excited.

00:35:37.560 I wonder if it's just that, you know, if you tied yourself to one core issue that people have broken upon, like they're fragmenting from, you're going to see an audience hit.

00:35:47.180 You're going to see a decline in momentum.

00:35:49.020 Maybe people just don't want to just scream about politics 24-7 for 10 years.

00:35:53.920 Maybe for once they want to put on some swim trunks, go to the beach, and just have a cheeseburger.

00:35:59.820 Guys, you know what?

00:36:01.500 More than anything, you know what I like to do?

00:36:03.440 Maybe I'll do it this weekend.

00:36:04.860 Go to the beach.

00:36:06.020 Get the grill going.

00:36:06.840 make some burgers

00:36:08.260 get some cheddar cheese

00:36:10.640 nice cheddar cheese

00:36:11.260 some pickles

00:36:11.800 some grilled onions

00:36:13.340 and mustard

00:36:14.440 that's how you do it

00:36:15.500 I think people just might want to relax

00:36:17.540 so let's go see a movie

00:36:20.180 let's go watch

00:36:20.700 I don't know

00:36:21.100 Project Hail Mary

00:36:21.660 sounds good

00:36:22.120 I'm going to wrap it up there

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The Culture War - Tim Pool - April 15, 2026

TPUSA ROASTED For Empty Event, Media Says THIS IS IT MAGA IS OVER

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