The Culture War - Tim Pool - Trump 2.0： Trump's Revenge is Coming w⧸General Flynn & Sean Stone

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00:01:30.480 When we were setting up this studio and preparing to come down to Daily Wire HQ, we had no idea what to expect.

00:01:44.480 So we actually had a conversation with the crew here at the Daily Wire about what if we have to go live all week.

00:01:49.320 And then I was talking to Jeremy, Jeremy Boring, and I said, hey, look, man, what if we don't know what's going to happen by Saturday?

00:01:56.920 I mean, you know, we don't normally do Tim Castile Live on the weekends, but I think if we're still awaiting results and there's lawsuits and chaos, we're going to have to go live.

00:02:04.120 And he's like, don't worry about it, man. We got you.

00:02:05.320 And then 1.30 a.m. the following morning election in November 6th, we got clean results.

00:02:12.260 And it was just, okay, well, all right.

00:02:15.140 Now, I'm hearing a lot of people say that they're still worried because it feels like the calm before the storm.

00:02:20.140 But for the time being, let's remain optimistic and under the impression that this is a Republican sweep.

00:02:27.440 Donald Trump will be taking office on January 20th.

00:02:29.760 And it doesn't look like with the way the House is going, there's going to be any challenges to certification.

00:02:35.460 I mean, there may be, but not significant because it's going to be a Republican sweep.

00:02:38.640 So with that being said, I feel extremely lucky to have these two gentlemen joining us for this episode of the Culture War,

00:02:45.940 considering we now know that we are on track for Trump to come back into office and start cleaning up this mess.

00:02:51.580 But why don't we just start with introductions?

00:02:53.560 We'll start with you. Sean, do you want to introduce yourself?

00:02:55.920 Sure. I'm Sean Stone. I'm a filmmaker.

00:02:59.760 I have a long background. What do you want to start?

00:03:02.940 Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura, acting in film since I was a kid.

00:03:07.380 I did Buzzsaw for Gaia Channel as well as watching the Hawks for RT for a few years.

00:03:13.060 And a number of documentaries and a couple of feature films as well.

00:03:16.400 So this is a new series that I just directed called All the President's Men we'll be talking about today.

00:03:21.120 And this is about all the people in the deep states? What's the synopsis?

00:03:26.740 Yeah, the synopsis. So it's the conspiracy against Trump's first administration, essentially.

00:03:32.300 From 2016, when he was running, we feature General Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos, Carter Page, Roger Stone,

00:03:40.500 all of whom were indicted, some of whom went to prison on this Russia, you know, collusion hoax.

00:03:47.420 But it's deeper than a hoax. It really is a conspiracy by the intel community under Obama, by the Hillary Clinton people,

00:03:55.560 by the FBI, you know, heads of FBI like Comey and company.

00:03:58.540 And we get into essentially just some of these. And by the way, this is just the surface level.

00:04:03.340 This is what we know just from the Durham report and other things.

00:04:06.080 There are much deeper layers that we still don't know fully about the entire collaboration of the Five Eyes,

00:04:12.340 the Foreign Intelligence Services, you know, the depths of the CIA involvement and whatnot.

00:04:16.840 But what we do know, we lay out in this series, and it's pretty fascinating.

00:04:21.480 We also have General Flynn joining us. Sir, would you like to introduce yourself?

00:04:24.340 Yeah, thanks, Tim. Thanks, Phil, for having me. And Sean, it's great to see you.

00:04:28.380 Sean and I have had a great, great relationship for years now.

00:04:32.780 Yeah, I mean, it's sort of where do you begin, right?

00:04:36.260 So I had a really, really amazing career in the military, nearly 34 years of, you know,

00:04:44.980 fighting everything from the former Soviet Union to the Contras in Central America,

00:04:51.120 operations in Central, in the Caribbean, a lot of time in Middle East, Central Asia.

00:05:00.240 Five years of my nearly 34 years were in direct combat operations.

00:05:05.600 So a lot of people know a little bit of that, and that was a great experience for me.

00:05:11.060 I come from a family of military. Both my grandfather served in World War I.

00:05:15.580 One of those grandfathers served in World War I and World War II, and my father served in World War II, Korea.

00:05:21.360 My brother served in the Vietnam era. My son is continuing to serve.

00:05:24.980 I have a brother, Charlie, who's a four-star, who actually retires today after 40 years.

00:05:31.980 And between he and I, we've been in every single conflict since, really, you know,

00:05:39.780 Desert Shield, Desert Storm, and Grenada.

00:05:41.700 May I go back to Grenada? You know, I jumped into politics with Trump.

00:05:46.180 Trump hired me to be his national security advisor.

00:05:48.220 That's a big story, and out there, if you're not aware of it, you've been sleeping under a rock.

00:05:53.440 And we'll talk maybe a little bit about that going forward,

00:05:56.180 because I think everything right now we have to project forward.

00:05:58.800 A lot of people don't know I am the author of seven books, and two of those are bestsellers.

00:06:03.500 I hold three master's degrees. I'm a lifelong learner. I'm one of nine children.

00:06:09.720 I grew up in a very tough Irish Catholic family up in the state of Rhode Island.

00:06:14.820 And Tim and I were talking about skateboarding earlier, because I, in 19, I think it was 1972,

00:06:22.100 at the University of Rhode Island, where we had the East Coast Skateboarding Championships.

00:06:26.540 I was the New England champion on a skateboard, on a steel skateboard, with early, early polyurethane wheels,

00:06:34.780 very early polyurethane wheels, didn't have the ball bearings at that time,

00:06:38.260 and was able to do little tricks.

00:06:40.760 I mean, you showed me some this morning that were pretty cool, and you invented.

00:06:44.680 And at that time, we were just jumping sticks and clicking, and, you know,

00:06:49.000 I mean, if you could do like a, I mean, I could do three, I could do, you know, four 360s.

00:06:54.020 You know, I don't know what that is. I'm not a math major, but at a time, right,

00:06:57.320 going down a hill at about 30 miles an hour.

00:07:00.140 So, and I surf. I'm a lifelong surfer.

00:07:04.860 I still own 10 surfboards.

00:07:06.820 I've been surfing for over 55 years of my life, and I've surfed big waves, little waves,

00:07:12.240 mostly East Coast, but my military experiences, I lived out in Hawaii,

00:07:16.540 I was stationed out in Hawaii for a while, so I used to surf up in the North Shore quite a bit.

00:07:20.280 So that was just a little bit of background, but great life.

00:07:23.320 It should be very interesting and exciting.

00:07:25.780 We got Phil hanging out as well.

00:07:27.180 Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte.

00:07:28.800 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains.

00:07:31.020 I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. Let's go.

00:07:33.900 So I really, I think we're going to dive into all of the president's men,

00:07:39.080 and I want to start with this.

00:07:42.480 General Flynn, could you walk us through what happened when the deep state went after you?

00:07:47.360 Because, you know, everything that I've read, it sounds like it was a load of crap,

00:07:52.680 and it was entrapment or some kind of trick.

00:07:55.500 And any time I hear about, you know, the FBI is going to interview somebody or otherwise,

00:08:01.200 I see people on Twitter saying, don't forget General Flynn.

00:08:03.700 Yeah.

00:08:04.200 Well, you should probably start with when they first came after you,

00:08:06.700 when they got rid of you as the director of defense intelligence agency.

00:08:09.680 I mean, yeah, I mean, I think that that's part of it.

00:08:11.960 It goes back to, there's a lot of things.

00:08:14.980 And I did also, we produced a movie called Flynn.

00:08:20.220 People can go see it.

00:08:21.300 You can go to FlynnMovie.com.

00:08:23.720 But it really goes back to when I was in the military state.

00:08:29.000 I was in Afghanistan.

00:08:30.480 I was a senior intelligence officer in Afghanistan,

00:08:32.420 and I wrote a report called Fixing Intel,

00:08:34.580 where I basically told the entirety of the United States intelligence community

00:08:40.140 that they weren't doing their job.

00:08:41.560 And that was after 10 years of war.

00:08:43.740 And at that point in time, I mean, the intel community leaders wanted my head.

00:08:49.920 Secretary of Defense Bob Gates told everybody to shut up.

00:08:53.520 It was a brilliant report.

00:08:55.240 You know, this guy's on the battlefield.

00:08:57.100 We got a war to fight, you know.

00:08:58.780 And so that kind of, that was sort of an early, you know, mark for Mike Flynn to say,

00:09:05.480 I'm not going to go with the grain.

00:09:07.180 I'm going to go against the grain, especially when we're talking about putting lives on the line.

00:09:11.560 Fast forward, I was the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency,

00:09:15.380 which Barack Obama actually appointed me into.

00:09:19.260 So he put me into the job.

00:09:20.500 And during a public testimony to Congress, when a group of us,

00:09:27.980 and it's a very famous shot, it's Comey, Brennan, Jim Clapper, and myself, very famous shot.

00:09:37.020 And we were all asked, you know, about ISIS and what was the status of ISIS,

00:09:42.460 because the Obama administration had said that these guys are defeated, they're on the run.

00:09:46.500 And so when all of us were asked the exact same question, the other three had the, you know,

00:09:52.680 the pat talking point answers, and I had to just, I said just the opposite.

00:09:58.180 And I said, no, they're not, they're not on the run.

00:10:00.640 They're growing, they're emerging.

00:10:01.860 ISIS is growing in about 24 or 25 countries.

00:10:04.940 And immediately after that, that testimony that I gave,

00:10:08.920 I was brought into an office in the Pentagon and asked to step down from that job.

00:10:13.700 And that job is, it's, that's a commander essentially of one of the largest intel agencies in the world.

00:10:19.600 You know, where you not only command, you know, the defense intelligence agency itself,

00:10:24.720 but you also are, you oversee all of the Department of Defense Intelligence activities.

00:10:29.560 So, yeah, and you're the senior most military intelligence officer in the, in the Pentagon.

00:10:34.900 So it's a big deal, big job.

00:10:36.560 And I was dismissed from that at that time.

00:10:38.620 And then all of a sudden I get involved with Trump and I'm, you know, helping him out win the 2016 election.

00:10:46.180 He wins.

00:10:47.140 He asks me to be his national security advisor and all hell broke loose.

00:10:51.360 I mean, all hell broke loose.

00:10:52.660 In fact, there's, there's even evidence that came out about a week ago, additional evidence from these FOIAs, Tim,

00:11:00.060 that people are continuing to dig as Sean just highlighted.

00:11:03.200 There's so much more information that's still, I mean, this, the depth of stuff that is still held inside of the intelligence community would blow away the Kennedy, the JFK assassination.

00:11:15.780 Okay.

00:11:16.180 Because it's not just killing a president.

00:11:18.480 It's, it's an attempt to take over the United States of America.

00:11:22.200 And they did it sitting in the White House, sitting, sitting behind, Obama sitting behind the Oval Office on the 5th of January of 2017.

00:11:31.980 And we know this.

00:11:32.800 In fact, in fact, on Newsmax the other night, it might've been last night, Kelly, Greg Kelly, he, you know, Biden comes out and says how we're going to have this peaceful transfer of power, you know, to Trump now.

00:11:46.100 Right.

00:11:46.560 And that was the last thing that they were talking about.

00:11:48.540 In fact, we have the receipts.

00:11:49.840 I, I, you know, basically in my case, we brought it forward.

00:11:54.000 We fought to get the evidence because most people think I was convicted and went to prison.

00:11:57.960 Right.

00:11:58.360 I, you know, I should have asked you guys if you thought I did.

00:12:01.060 And, uh, I was never convicted, never went to prison.

00:12:04.640 My, my case was dismissed, but I had to get a pardon because a judge, a federal judge wouldn't let me go because he got the bird whistle from Obama.

00:12:14.360 So, and that's, that's, you know, how much detail you want to get into.

00:12:17.360 Well, yeah, so, but this is, uh, it's been, it's been a while since we've covered the story, but they accused you of lying.

00:12:22.640 But it began, so, so, so Tim, this, this, uh, story that we are facing right now, what Trump is going through, what we, what we all experienced going up to this election.

00:12:34.760 And, and, and then these people are not done.

00:12:37.200 So these, these people are not finished trying to screw Trump and screw this country and, and basically take it over.

00:12:45.040 I mean, this is a, this is a, a long time in coming.

00:12:49.520 I mean, this is how they operate.

00:12:50.760 And so that, that early, those early days, and it actually, we know it began in 2015 when, when Trump decided they weren't exactly sure how Trump was going to play out in the primaries during that period of time.

00:13:01.300 But when he did, and then he wins that, you know, that now all of a sudden it's like, okay, we can't allow this to happen.

00:13:06.920 Cause the, the, the bigger plan, and most people don't know, but this is, this is for real and they will not, they will, they won't argue this.

00:13:15.560 The bigger plan was eight years of Obama, eight years of Hillary and the Tim cast live from the daily wire headquarters wouldn't exist.

00:13:23.640 Okay.

00:13:24.400 So, so we are still in the throes of this fight and the way that I described this, and I described this the other day, talking to some folks after the victory, because it's like, and I use the metaphor cause I'm a military guy.

00:13:36.080 I use the metaphor of, of the Normandy invasion that we are, we are at about like D-Day plus one right now, right?

00:13:43.820 That we cannot say, you know, it's victory over Europe already.

00:13:46.720 I want everybody to feel good.

00:13:48.200 We fought really hard.

00:13:49.460 We want a massive, massive, a monumental historic battle, but that's just one battle in the, in the war to continue to keep this thing moving and do the things that are necessary to do.

00:13:58.920 So what happens from now until the 20th?

00:14:01.740 I imagine the moment Trump walks in that door, that's a big problem for these people.

00:14:06.740 Yeah.

00:14:06.960 I mean, from my perspective, I, you know, Trump knows what he wants to do.

00:14:11.680 He's got, you know, he'll pick great people and I, you know, and, and there's going to be an establishment, sort of the rhino of establishment, whatever you want to call them.

00:14:19.060 There's going to be a, a political establishment elite that will try to pressure him to take certain types of people, right?

00:14:26.820 That's a different issue.

00:14:28.540 My, my thing right now is to message as much as I can.

00:14:33.380 And I do this every time that I've done this since really, even before the election is to message that there, these people are not done trying to kill him.

00:14:41.100 So, and I don't say that lightly, so I'm not, you know, I'm not saying it because I'm just, you know, reading it on the internet.

00:14:47.660 I mean, so they're, they're not done trying to get this man out of the way.

00:14:52.000 So, you know, I mean, on, on one side, out of one side of my mouth, I want to tell Trump, just hang out at Mar-a-Lago, run an operation center down there, have everybody come down to you to be, you know, to be interviewed, whatever, you know, do, do those kinds of things because they're going to say, well, here's your transition headquarters.

00:15:08.960 Of course, everything has to be different.

00:15:11.160 The way he is taking back over the country must be done differently.

00:15:15.420 He'll decide whether or not, you know, he listens to what I'm telling him, but I, my thing is he's got to stay alive because they're not going to give him the resources, Tim, to be able to stay alive.

00:15:25.760 Okay.

00:15:26.340 That he should have.

00:15:27.480 So they're like, he gets in an airplane, you ought to have fighter escort.

00:15:31.200 He gets on the, he, that air, that airplane parks on the ground.

00:15:34.140 There ought to be air defense systems around it.

00:15:35.800 He ought to have, you know, you know what I'm saying?

00:15:36.880 I mean, I could go on and on and on.

00:15:38.600 Well, I think Trump should be for the next couple of months in a secure location surrounded by the most trusted people imaginable.

00:15:46.180 He should not be traveling because there were two, two attempts.

00:15:51.340 He dodged a bullet and then we had a plot.

00:15:54.080 And we also heard from Matt Gates that there are five Iranian assassination teams.

00:15:59.100 Donald Trump right now needs to get into office.

00:16:02.660 And there are a lot of podcasts popping up where I'm seeing people saying, doesn't it feel a little strange how calm all of these elites and wealthy individuals, some who may be on the Epstein list are?

00:16:12.740 They're certainly calm.

00:16:13.520 When Elon Musk gave an interview and he said that list is going to come out if Trump wins.

00:16:17.040 And now a lot of these people are like, oh, it's just, it's totally fine that Trump won.

00:16:20.140 Yeah, I think it was the CEO of the Clinton Foundation stepped down on Wednesday.

00:16:24.900 So, I mean, it's like not a lot of people know that because it just comes up as a little blip and you kind of go, some friends of mine that have fought that organization legally in the courts and have beat them, Clinton Foundation, you know, they pay attention to these things.

00:16:38.520 And you kind of, these are signals, okay?

00:16:40.920 These are signals.

00:16:42.080 What I look for is I look for, you know, what we call indicators and the indicators are part of what you're talking about, but it's also messaging.

00:16:50.520 So messaging like Karl Marx or Joseph Stalin would have been proud of the concession speech that Kamala Harris gave, okay?

00:17:00.260 And then people can go back and they need to examine it.

00:17:02.680 And what Biden just said, I think it was yesterday, people need to, you know, look at that.

00:17:08.000 And that's being ripped apart.

00:17:10.080 But go back and listen to Kamala and listen to her concessions speech.

00:17:12.960 What's the historical precedent if, I want to be very light with this because, you know, but if for some reason Trump does not make it to Inauguration Day, who becomes president?

00:17:23.760 Is it J.D. Vance?

00:17:24.820 Well, there's no precedent.

00:17:26.220 There's no precedent.

00:17:27.600 And, you know, so I don't know.

00:17:28.860 I mean, you know.

00:17:29.660 I fear they may say something like, no, no, the person who got the next highest amount of votes would become president.

00:17:34.820 Yeah.

00:17:35.040 I mean, you know, there are 43 on the books signed by different presidents going back to at least, probably at least, I would say Johnson.

00:17:48.100 But there's 43 national security emergency orders on the books signed, ready to be executed.

00:17:54.260 And if one of them is executed, it automatically kicks in about 150 different laws in the country.

00:18:02.420 OK, so and I've written about this and people can go people can go see what I've written about it.

00:18:07.880 And these things matter because if there is a national emergency, right, so maybe if something like this happens that and I don't want to I hate going down this path because I want to be positive.

00:18:20.940 I want to be optimistic.

00:18:21.860 We you know, we we just fought a major war or major battle here.

00:18:25.700 We won and we're moving forward.

00:18:27.660 And everybody's, you know, it's nirvana because believe me that when they start to talk about, you know, a smooth transition of power, right?

00:18:35.840 If Trump had lost the 26th of November, he'd be in prison for the rest of his life and they would destroy his entire family.

00:18:44.440 And guys like me, OK, who I know, I'm on a target list and many others who I know that are high profile people, they would come after us.

00:18:53.060 So these are not like all of a sudden they're they're kinder and gentler people here.

00:18:57.480 Right. So we are.

00:18:59.720 That's why I say we're kind of at a D-Day plus one.

00:19:02.000 We've broken through the hedgerows.

00:19:03.220 We were up, you know, we're up on the beaches of Normandy.

00:19:04.940 We're up on the cliffs.

00:19:06.040 And and now we got to move forward.

00:19:07.980 And it's going to be a it's going to be a tough slog because at every point and it's they're already talking about it.

00:19:13.780 You know, the sort of the minions in the in the apparatus, they're already talking about, you know, how to disrupt the next administration.

00:19:22.100 Right. Even though the powers to be are saying we're going to have a smooth transition.

00:19:27.640 There was no smooth transition for Trump from and from that moment, from that moment where Trump and Obama met in early November of 2016, the war has been waged from that point when they met.

00:19:43.220 Did did Trump not see this coming?

00:19:46.120 Trump did not know the ways of Washington, D.C. going into the presidency in 2017.

00:19:51.620 Is it your sense that Trump's that the Trump administration or the people that Trump have now setting up the administration, are they more prepared for this kind of subterfuge or whatever?

00:20:00.080 Yeah. I mean, Trump is. I think I think President Trump is it's a big it's a big thing.

00:20:06.860 You know, it's it's you're you're you know, you're not, you know, running you're not getting a couple of million dollars of investment and starting a new company.

00:20:13.860 I mean, this is a government that that has millions of people that that are currently in it.

00:20:19.180 And, you know, and he's got the executive branch of the government and appointees.

00:20:25.680 You know, there's about three thousand. He probably should hire three hundred and not hire the other whatever, twenty seven hundred.

00:20:32.560 And and I do think that I do think that Elon going in is this, you know, they call it Doge or whatever.

00:20:39.620 Right. You know, it doesn't need to be a department.

00:20:42.920 He doesn't need to be appointed in anything.

00:20:44.540 He just needs to be like a task force commander and let him decide who he wants to bring into that element.

00:20:50.820 You know, Elon, I don't expect Elon to go into government.

00:20:54.080 I expect Elon to, you know, go with the guidance and the direction and the approval of the president of the United States of America and go in there and say, OK, why do you exist?

00:21:03.980 Department of Education. Why do you exist?

00:21:06.680 CISA. I mean, there's a lot I could go, you know, go down.

00:21:10.240 I don't know, half a dozen organizations that should be completely eliminated.

00:21:14.180 Never mind just reformed.

00:21:15.840 So I want to give a shout out to Oregon County Hick, who super chatted.

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00:22:50.300 Prescribes what this country would do in the event the president-elect does not make it.

00:22:54.760 And they are rather light in their language.

00:22:56.960 They're saying, if at the beginning of the term, the president of the president, the president-elect

00:23:01.600 shall have died, the vice president-elect shall become president.

00:23:05.260 That's at the beginning of the term.

00:23:06.760 So he's right partially.

00:23:09.600 So that guy's right partially.

00:23:11.320 But they're not there yet.

00:23:13.100 So we're not at 20 January.

00:23:14.980 I'm talking about between now and then.

00:23:16.380 So a couple of things.

00:23:18.300 The Jack Smith stuff was dropped the day after the election.

00:23:22.900 Amazing, right?

00:23:23.060 I mean, how fucking...

00:23:24.180 Excuse my Irish.

00:23:25.800 How much bullshit is that?

00:23:27.560 I mean, all the pain and agony that they dragged this country through.

00:23:30.380 So now Marchant.

00:23:31.980 Marchant on...

00:23:32.740 So I'm getting some indications that Marchant might consider not going forward with all of

00:23:39.860 that case.

00:23:40.680 The fake 34 counts.

00:23:42.360 Yeah.

00:23:42.460 It's unbelievable.

00:23:43.140 So, and that would be smart on his part because the president, you know, when they talk about

00:23:47.860 immunity, so he would be really smart to just say, we're going to get rid of this.

00:23:52.200 I want this out of my court.

00:23:52.900 Yes, but I...

00:23:54.800 Who am I?

00:23:55.280 I'm a guy who complains on the internet, right?

00:23:56.480 So don't listen to me.

00:23:57.140 But personally, I wouldn't tolerate that.

00:23:59.160 I want...

00:24:00.300 I need to know, and I believe the people of this country need to know that there is equality

00:24:04.820 under the law.

00:24:06.080 And that means if they are going to levy false charges and abuse the civil rights, that there's

00:24:11.620 going to be at bare minimum a civil rights violation and an investigation from the DOJ.

00:24:15.900 And I have said, I believe Merrick Garland still should go to prison.

00:24:20.080 This is not revenge.

00:24:22.220 This is not me being emotional.

00:24:24.320 No, it's called legal accountability.

00:24:25.400 If Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro had to spend their four months in prison, and we say,

00:24:30.560 okay, well, you know, that's the way the system goes.

00:24:32.860 Merrick Garland, too, was in contempt of Congress.

00:24:35.220 And I believe if we are going to prove to the American people that if you break the law,

00:24:39.080 you are held accountable, that means we calmly and dispassionately say, well, Merrick, you're

00:24:42.560 going to spend four months in prison, the same as Navarro and Bannon, and then we'll

00:24:45.420 be through with it.

00:24:46.440 Yeah.

00:24:46.820 And I totally agree, you know, and I think the word that we've got to take out, like our sort

00:24:52.060 of side, and at least from my perspective, and I'll speak for myself, the word that we've

00:24:56.360 got to take out of the lexicon of those that are on the winning team right now is revenge.

00:25:02.900 We've got to remove that word.

00:25:05.200 And we've got to talk about accountability.

00:25:07.520 One of the things that the founders of this country taught us is accountability.

00:25:12.220 How did they teach us that?

00:25:13.340 Because they were accountable for themselves and for their actions, never mind the extraordinary

00:25:18.180 courage that they also demonstrated.

00:25:20.400 So accountability has been something in our system, in our rule of law system from the

00:25:25.560 beginning, you know, from really the beginning of time, right?

00:25:28.340 I mean, you know, so accountability is what we're looking for using the rule of law.

00:25:33.440 What we don't need, though, and this gets back to presidential powers, executive powers, and

00:25:39.080 I've studied this a little bit with people like Washington, people like Lincoln, you know,

00:25:45.800 the application of executive authority and presidential powers, we don't need to have some Durham

00:25:52.180 investigation that lasts forever, right?

00:25:55.780 We need to have time limits, and we need to have very precise priorities and tasks that

00:26:03.140 are looked at.

00:26:03.620 Like, you know, I go back to Elon, and I think what Elon is going to have to do,

00:26:09.000 you can't just go, well, because I got rid of 80% of Twitter, we're going to get rid of

00:26:12.480 80% of the government.

00:26:13.960 One phrase that I used in the military, and I learned in the military from a great sergeant,

00:26:18.860 was be conscious or be careful when you take a fence down, because there was a purpose and

00:26:25.020 a reason for putting that fence up.

00:26:26.860 That doesn't mean that the fence shouldn't come down.

00:26:29.280 And it's a metaphor for saying, okay, why was this created in the first place, right?

00:26:33.400 Why was the FBI created in the first place?

00:26:35.620 Why was the CIA created in the first place?

00:26:37.460 Because an organization like the CIA has gone adrift of what it was originally intended

00:26:43.500 to do, and they have way too much power.

00:26:47.420 And they have power because most politicians who have been in politics for far too long,

00:26:53.520 and this is why I think one of the things that Trump is really going to be pushing is

00:26:56.500 this term limit thing, most of them are compromised to some level.

00:27:00.720 I mean, it's either money, or it's sex, or it's something.

00:27:04.200 It's just, it's crazy stuff that, and it's not about infidelity in a marriage, it's about

00:27:10.320 serious shit.

00:27:13.140 And these people know it, because frankly, we do this to other people overseas.

00:27:18.760 That's the world of the spy versus spy.

00:27:21.100 And it's a very real world.

00:27:22.680 And so if we have these upstanding moral character type political people that are in the federal

00:27:29.380 government or in certain select governors in this country and others at state level, if

00:27:36.980 they are responsible for different things, particularly large amounts of money, our money,

00:27:43.100 taxpayer money, and they get these favors, we're in a place now where that has to end.

00:27:50.420 And I think this listing that I saw Trump put out, I guess, you know, I guess he put it

00:27:57.180 out on the internet and social media, I found that just fascinating.

00:28:01.280 I was like, wow, this is really good.

00:28:02.840 If he's able to take that laundry list of tasks, get the right people behind him, and

00:28:09.320 then hone in on that, because you know what, Tim, we don't have four years.

00:28:14.260 And I want the American people, your audience, to understand we don't have four years.

00:28:16.940 We actually have maybe, maybe two, maybe two midterms.

00:28:21.640 And even, and it's like two years is when the midterm is, you know, when you start to

00:28:25.740 go six months prior to, so maybe you got 18 months, right?

00:28:29.040 I mean, this is the political cycle of our country that is normal.

00:28:33.320 And so I think, I think, and Trump is a, Trump is not a normal political person.

00:28:38.760 And that's why there's so many people here in this country and so many people around the

00:28:43.460 world that love this man, because they're looking at him and going, you know, you're

00:28:46.580 our savior.

00:28:47.700 You're, you're saving us from this globalist communist takeover.

00:28:51.840 And it, which is very real and there's real people.

00:28:54.280 It's not a conspiracy theory.

00:28:56.220 So anyway, I mean, those are just things that, uh, that, that Trump has to deal with.

00:29:02.400 We'll see if Marchant, you know, says, I'm not going to do this.

00:29:05.280 This is ridiculous.

00:29:06.280 Just like Jack Smith.

00:29:07.500 What if they, what happens if they try to actually imprison the president elect?

00:29:12.540 Okay.

00:29:12.940 Cause so if I'm on their team, this is a great question.

00:29:15.160 Cause we, I've had this, I had this conversation with a couple of, you know, really very good

00:29:19.780 people who are very analytical and they think about scenarios and scenario development, you

00:29:24.540 know, if they do this, so let's, so let's just assume that Marchant says, nope, you're

00:29:28.540 getting in my court, census them 25 years.

00:29:32.640 Okay.

00:29:33.300 You're going to prison right now.

00:29:34.520 In fact, I gave you a, I gave you time to get your, your affairs in order.

00:29:38.260 You're going to prison and you're going to actually go down into the prison of the, of

00:29:42.180 the courthouse that he's in.

00:29:43.160 Cause they got a prison right down there.

00:29:44.300 And then we're going to move you over to, you were going to remand you to, to the department

00:29:47.640 of justice over to Rikers, let's say.

00:29:49.560 Right.

00:29:49.720 So if that happens, you're going to see a, like, like, you know, like a wilding going

00:29:56.520 on in the media where it's like, we can't have a convicted felon in prison, you know,

00:30:01.140 in the white house.

00:30:02.040 This is where people like Jamie Raskin out of Maryland, Congressman Raskin out of Maryland,

00:30:06.100 who's already said, we're not going to let this guy serve.

00:30:09.400 And, and, and, and he said it was at, uh, uh, it was a bookstore panel discussion in

00:30:15.280 February of this year that if Trump wins, they will refuse to certify on the grounds

00:30:20.920 he is ineligible under the 14th amendment.

00:30:23.100 Those are his words.

00:30:24.760 I'm paraphrasing, but that's what he said.

00:30:26.060 Yeah, that's right.

00:30:26.620 And, and I mean, so give the, you know, to give them more fuel for that argument, right.

00:30:32.260 And to allow the, the woke corporate media to, uh, to, to kind of dominate that narrative,

00:30:39.680 to allow all these people that are in the sort of the globalist, uh, cabal, if you will,

00:30:46.500 um, to say, well, how can we have a guy that's sitting in prison, a convicted felon, you know,

00:30:50.180 blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:30:50.920 Right.

00:30:51.620 One of the things that I do believe, and this is, this is something that I don't think that

00:30:55.280 they can overcome this because, and you're a perfect example of it.

00:30:58.640 Okay.

00:30:58.920 You're a, you're, you are a perfect example of it because you've, you're a great interview

00:31:02.700 with Trump as well as other podcasters.

00:31:05.640 I, I, I'm sort of coining this presidency as the podcast presidency, because this is the

00:31:11.980 death of, of the woke corporate media that they're there.

00:31:17.460 Nobody watches them anyways.

00:31:18.860 I, you know, unless you're like my age or older and you still kind of go at home and

00:31:22.980 you turn your little tube on.

00:31:24.140 Right.

00:31:24.280 But, um, or you, you, you flip to some cable news or ABC or CNN, or you still watch 60 minutes.

00:31:30.600 That's it.

00:31:31.560 I mean, those, that is a dying, it's like a, it's like an animal on the road that's been

00:31:36.100 hit, you know, and, and backed over.

00:31:38.320 So this, this presidency proved the, the durability and the reliability of citizen journalism and,

00:31:47.460 uh, sort of what I, I mean, I call the podcast presidency because Trump realized that he

00:31:51.960 realized that I, I forget the timeframe when you guys did, it was a little while back.

00:31:55.540 It was, uh, it was the libertarian convention.

00:31:57.560 Yeah.

00:31:57.960 Right before he spoke, he actually was late to his speech for us.

00:32:01.140 And I am, I am very grateful.

00:32:02.840 It was an honor that he, he took the time.

00:32:04.600 Yeah.

00:32:04.940 So, I mean, it was, it was a while ago, but about six months prior to the election, I

00:32:09.160 think Trump, you know, whether it was him or whether he saw something, you know, maybe

00:32:13.680 he watched, you know, the Tucker interview with Putin, where we learned Joe Biden hasn't

00:32:18.420 spoken to a nation, a nation state leader who has more nuclear weapons than we do.

00:32:25.120 And there's a war going on and everybody's talking about using nuclear weapons and Biden

00:32:28.080 hasn't spoken to him in two years.

00:32:29.860 I mean, that's insane.

00:32:31.180 So that, that interview, maybe Trump watched something like that.

00:32:34.440 Maybe, you know, he knows Joe Rogan, you know, so on and so forth.

00:32:38.740 All of a sudden you start seeing Donald J.

00:32:41.640 Trump doing these podcasts and I'm like, okay, he gets it.

00:32:45.300 He's starting to get it.

00:32:46.120 I think if, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

00:32:49.040 Well, I was just going to say that, you know, going to your D-Day, plus one, right?

00:32:53.560 Because really it was a four year journey to get here.

00:32:56.020 And so what Democrats sitting there going, how, how is this possible?

00:32:58.600 It's like, you guys don't understand what you've done.

00:33:01.100 This is retribution because what, what the establishment did by going after Trump and

00:33:05.940 then turning that into the COVID pandemic, going after all of us, right?

00:33:09.800 And what the Democrats did, particularly going after businesses, going after, you know,

00:33:13.420 going after this crazy mandate, it's going after the vaccine mandates, it created so

00:33:17.440 much resentment, right?

00:33:19.400 That this is all the consequence of four years of that.

00:33:21.740 Plus the censorship, as you're talking about, is all, you know, all the censorship did was

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00:34:57.680 Broke and even bigger, right?

00:34:59.180 Oh, yeah.

00:34:59.540 Build all podcasts bigger.

00:35:01.040 So really what they did is actually sowed the seeds of their own demise.

00:35:04.420 And so now we're reaping it.

00:35:05.720 And that's why I feel like what you're saying is to a certain extent true.

00:35:09.760 But whatever it would see, it's like everything that they're going to do is only going to backfire

00:35:12.900 now because we have so much more power amongst the people.

00:35:16.140 There's a realization of our power.

00:35:17.520 There's a realization that, hey, you shut us down on YouTube, we're going to start new

00:35:21.000 channels.

00:35:21.440 We're going to start a rumble.

00:35:22.320 You're going to cancel us.

00:35:23.140 We're going to gather together and create something new.

00:35:25.600 I think we realize now that we can build, even if they took it away from us, we would

00:35:29.180 build our republic without them.

00:35:30.740 That's what we have.

00:35:31.720 It's as you were saying, General Flynn, that a wounded animal is dangerous.

00:35:35.380 And so the question then becomes, to what degree are they willing to sacrifice,

00:35:39.700 sabotage, or burn it all down?

00:35:40.820 I think that if Trump decides to play this game and show up for court on the 26th, I

00:35:48.440 don't know if, let's say Mershan says, no, I'm not going to throw this out.

00:35:51.960 You are convicted and you are going to come in for sentencing.

00:35:54.480 If Trump goes into that prison, he will never come out.

00:35:57.840 And whatever form that takes, I'll just keep it simple and say he's not making it to January.

00:36:03.580 He's not going to make it to the White House.

00:36:05.080 Yeah, and that's a really, so that's a scenario, okay?

00:36:09.120 So for those of us that look at these kinds of, you know, security issues at this level,

00:36:13.860 you have to play these things out.

00:36:16.640 And you have to look at the second, third, fourth, fifth order effects.

00:36:20.340 You've got to look at the consequences.

00:36:22.120 You've got to look at the players.

00:36:23.420 And you've got to examine, you know, what are their intentions?

00:36:27.520 And this is where, you know, like good intelligence, bulletproof intelligence helps, insiders help, whistleblowers help, people getting people into the camps.

00:36:37.440 I mean, I guarantee, I guarantee, you know, 100% that there are people in the Trump camp that have been working for the other side damn near the whole time.

00:36:49.160 Now, whether or not, you know, you can judge them for how well they did or didn't do, but, and now that's going to be again.

00:36:55.580 And so what happens is immediately, you know, elements of government start to come together to try to go, okay, well, we're here to help, right?

00:37:03.260 People in the government.

00:37:04.860 And, you know, it's like I told one congressman who ran, this is back in the 2022 election victory.

00:37:11.740 He, I supported him and we went and helped him raise money and he won.

00:37:17.200 And I saw him at an event and this was before he went into Congress.

00:37:22.040 And it was like at a, I think it may have been at Mar-a-Lago or it may have been some other place, but we, it was at an event prior to him actually taking the job.

00:37:29.460 First time congressman, America first guy.

00:37:32.100 And I said to him, uh, when he came over to me, he goes, Hey, I want to thank you very much.

00:37:36.020 And I said, do me a favor.

00:37:38.000 The first person that comes to speak to you when you, when you show up to Washington DC, I want you to remember who he is or she is.

00:37:44.760 And I want you to understand that that's your enemy, but that's the first person that you cannot trust.

00:37:50.080 It's a very Godfather-esque moment.

00:37:51.940 Well, and it's, and it's very true because people that go to DC and try and it's back to, back to something we had, we talked about earlier, you know, like, and I said, and I actually said this in a film, Trump didn't know the ways of Washington DC.

00:38:05.700 He, he accepted that people in the Republican party were going to give them good people, right?

00:38:13.440 And give them the right people.

00:38:14.740 I mean, Dan Coats, the first.

00:38:35.700 He's still talking about Trump being, you know, under, under the thumbprint of, uh, of Putin just two days ago.

00:38:47.420 So this is a guy that was handed to him to be the director of national intelligence the entire time.

00:38:53.540 And I learned this from, uh, from Devin Nunez.

00:38:56.920 Okay.

00:38:57.300 And in the filming of our, of our movie and, and, and I, and I know that we're going to find out a lot more stuff here because it, because, you know, they're, they're, they're going to look into it.

00:39:06.180 And we talked about cash, you know, earlier.

00:39:09.040 So the entire time he's there and frankly, Mike Pompeo, who I'm not a fan of, and that's, you know, neither here nor there, but I'll say it, um, who was his CIA director the entire time.

00:39:21.420 They had the full firm bulletproof evidence that said the whole Russia, you know, nonsense was nonsense, was a hoax, a fault the entire time yet said nothing.

00:39:34.140 And they allowed the country, they allowed Trump, they allowed peoples and their families to be destroyed.

00:39:39.520 They allowed Trump and his presidency to be attacked.

00:39:42.620 And they just sat there and said nothing.

00:39:45.540 Yeah.

00:39:45.860 Gina Haspel was one of the orchestrators of this whole thing.

00:39:48.540 And she became CIA director and then she was Pompeo's deputy.

00:39:51.860 And then she made sure that cash Patel could not release a lot of the classified information we talk about in the series.

00:39:57.600 You know, you'll see, like, he basically hints at things and says, look, I can't talk about it.

00:40:01.200 It's classified.

00:40:01.980 And that's that, as you know, that's a big problem with, with how our system.

00:40:04.640 Yeah.

00:40:04.760 And that's a lot of bullshit.

00:40:05.840 I mean, you know, again, so the, the, the classified stuff is because you're right, Sean, you're exactly right.

00:40:11.260 People will use that, that, that, that false mask to hide behind, like, well, it's under investigation, you know, well, just tell me whether or not it is, you know, are you investigating it?

00:40:21.260 And when is it going to be done?

00:40:22.140 Right.

00:40:22.600 But when they say, well, it's classified, that's the, that's the biggest crock of horseshit, you know, because they'll hide it like they, you know, like they redact, they redact evidence.

00:40:34.860 Right.

00:40:35.780 And you kind of go, why is that redacted?

00:40:37.460 Right.

00:40:37.640 I mean, I, if I got full pages of evidence that was given, turned over to me.

00:40:40.880 Black.

00:40:41.500 Black.

00:40:42.180 Full pages.

00:40:42.820 It's like, I don't want that page.

00:40:44.260 Why do I need it?

00:40:45.400 Why are they doing it?

00:40:46.620 You know, people often think of the motivations.

00:40:49.740 Yeah.

00:40:50.020 Why are they, why did they go after Trump?

00:40:52.880 The people surrounding Trump.

00:40:54.280 I mean, you, what is their end game?

00:40:56.980 Power and, and complete control of the United States of America.

00:41:02.100 Is it too?

00:41:05.000 Oh, no, no, no.

00:41:05.620 I mean, don't, so here's the thing, what people don't understand.

00:41:09.040 So there's competing ideologies globally.

00:41:11.440 You know, we were, Phil and I were talking about isms, you know, like you can, you can beat the German army, you can beat the SS, you can beat the Japanese military, but you can't beat the ism, right?

00:41:20.500 The belief in something, right?

00:41:22.180 So, you know, like you can defeat Hamas, but you may not be able to defeat, you know, a radicalized Islamism as an example, just to kind of bring it to today.

00:41:31.560 So there are competing ideologies against our way of life and globalism is a very big deal and it's been ongoing for a long time and there's names and faces that are associated with it.

00:41:42.560 There's, there's clearly organizations, World Bank, World Health Organization, World Trade, United Nations, International Monetary Fund.

00:41:49.720 Those are just a few.

00:41:51.220 So, but, but these are people and, and at the end of the day, there is a communist infiltration into this country and, you know, the Chinese, we don't hear that the people don't talk about China as much as, as they should.

00:42:07.300 This government will, you know, and the Obama government will talk about Russia, Russia, Russia, because, and there's, there's tens of billions of dollars, actually more, more than that, but tens of billions of dollars, I'll, I'll leave it at that, that are in programs focused on Russia because for 40 years we fought the Cold War.

00:42:28.000 So, this thing right here, this thing right here, okay, the entire constellation of satellites that, that, that travel around, you know, geospatial orbit were put up by the U.S. government because of the former Warsaw Pact.

00:42:41.880 Okay? And that, that drove a lot of stuff, a lot of innovation, a lot of technologies.

00:42:47.360 So, there's so much money that's involved in, that doesn't mean that that's a bad thing, it just means that when that, if the enemy dries up, then the money could dry up.

00:42:56.200 So, you can't allow the enemy to dry up.

00:42:58.520 With the, the DEI stuff that we've been seeing, major corporations creating chief diversity officers, it feels very much like how the Communist Party operates when they put a party member in all of their big corporations.

00:43:11.880 And then we've heard from many of our guests on Tim Kest IRL that there are powerful individuals who are envious of the Chinese Communist system.

00:43:20.400 So, do you think that one of the goals is to reshape America much like the Chinese Communist Party controls China, where they have single party rule, where people like Kamala Harris who don't get elected and don't get a single vote are appointed by the party to, to run.

00:43:35.060 And then they put an ideological component within all of the companies, effectively assuming full control of the entire system, never to have a legitimate election again.

00:43:45.800 Yeah, short answer, yes.

00:43:47.580 The, and it goes all the way down, so that permeates all the way down into every institution of our government, of our federal government.

00:43:54.120 And then when you look at, at other institutions like, you know, higher, higher learning, undergraduate and graduate level programs, right, all across the country.

00:44:03.940 I mean, you know, I, I am so unimpressed when somebody tells me, well, he's a graduate of Harvard.

00:44:08.640 I mean, I could give a shit, you know, I mean, I just, it just doesn't, it's unimpressive these days, because when you begin to look at how these structures and these institutions have changed.

00:44:17.480 When you look at what the Chinese have done in this country, I mean, fentanyl, we're, we're at over 200,000 killed in action on the streets of America by a drug designed and produced in China.

00:44:32.820 And, and in the last year, year and a half, they've stuffed it with a horse tranquilizer, a much stronger version to, to basically kill more of our society.

00:44:41.760 They then introduce it to the Mexican cartels. And then the Mexican cartels use their counterparts in the various, you know, criminal organizations in this country, mainly MS-13, to basically put it out all over the street.

00:44:55.440 We have over 200,000 dead Americans killed in action, I call it. And, and then, you know, that, that times probably five wounded in action, because, you know, there's been many that have been affected by it.

00:45:06.740 And, and, and of course, the damage to the families, the damage to our healthcare system, the damage to our education system, on and on and on.

00:45:13.600 So, that's one part of it, because that's kind of a, a, a, a physical manifestation of how the Chinese Communist Party, in their hundred year plan, which was actually developed by Mao Zedong in the, in the late.

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00:46:55.780 The 40s into the early 50s.

00:46:58.420 And that 100-year plan is 2049.

00:47:00.900 That's why Xi has made himself basically dictator for life so he can implement it and get it going before the 100 years.

00:47:08.600 I mean, this is very real stuff.

00:47:10.240 The other aspect that people need to understand is that the geology, okay, the geology of the United States of America, particularly the contiguous, you know, 48 states, but even Alaska, we know of the energy resources in Alaska.

00:47:25.560 But the geology of this country, this is one of the richest, you know, most wealthiest pieces of dirt on the planet, okay?

00:47:34.680 We have all of the rare earth elements that you need to be able to function globally and certainly nationally.

00:47:42.660 So things like lithium, you know, copper, uranium, gold and silver, I mean, you know, all of the different forms of energy that can be created that comes out of the geology versus that can be created by nuclear energy and all the kinds of aspects that we have there.

00:48:02.740 We have it for the next 500 years, Tim, for the rest of the world.

00:48:05.680 So, you know, when you're looking at something like that and you have 1.6 billion people, right, in China, you got like, I think it's 1.4 in India.

00:48:15.760 I mean, that's like a third of the planet right there, just two countries.

00:48:19.160 Now, India, I'm a big fan of India, you know, big fan of how they operate and how they function.

00:48:24.140 But a lot of people don't realize with India, India's military, it's great military.

00:48:28.800 And I know a lot of the leadership in the Indian military, India's military is primarily designed and supported by Russia.

00:48:39.020 So you have these funny relationships out there.

00:48:41.380 When we look at India and we think of Modi and we go, hey, he's a great guy, very pro-America and he's, you know, he wants to be able to do the kinds of things because he's thinking of his own people, which is right.

00:48:50.500 But you have to look at these other relationships.

00:48:52.620 So there's all these relationships on the planet and instead of us, you know, to kind of use something I think I heard you say a long time ago, instead of actually having a leader, in this case, Trump, going out there and interacting with other leaders on the planet and saying, OK, guys, how do we want to operate here?

00:49:12.180 Because we don't want to try to kill each other.

00:49:13.660 We don't want to we don't want to go to war.

00:49:15.240 That doesn't mean that there's not psychopathic, you know, terrorist groups out there.

00:49:19.200 There are. And and I have I have I have dealt with them and faced them.

00:49:24.220 But, you know, nation states, reasonable nation states with reasonable leaders who are trying to do what's best for their people.

00:49:33.220 They're going to it's like a it's like a competitive environment.

00:49:36.820 You know, it's maybe it's a scrum.

00:49:38.680 I don't know what you want to call it, what metaphor you want to use, but it's a competitive world.

00:49:42.220 And instead of trying to kill each other over that, over the resources or the kinds of things, maybe we figure out how do we how can we actually live together?

00:49:50.060 And a lot of that comes with smart people, you know, engaging and talking and saying, OK, here's how here's what we're going to do.

00:49:57.100 I mean, Trump's notion about taxes, as an example, and going with tariffs instead of taxes.

00:50:03.560 I mean, just little things like that, because we're just giving away the farm.

00:50:07.840 I was at a at a planet. We yesterday we were at a plant up in Ohio.

00:50:12.660 Great. You know, great friend of mine. We did an event up there and they do these liners for the back of trucks.

00:50:18.840 You know, something I never saw, you know, and I said, so tell me which parts of it come from China.

00:50:24.700 Right. And there are still bits and pieces.

00:50:26.420 But he he was like so proud. And it's a it's a midsize, maybe to a, you know, a little bit higher than a midsize company.

00:50:34.020 They do pretty good. But but it's like the pride that he had in saying that, nope, here's this, here's that, here's that.

00:50:41.760 This is made in some, you know, somewhere America. This is made in Main Street.

00:50:45.020 I mean, all the pieces and he is fighting to keep that and he's been fighting for four years to keep that his prices to where it's reasonable, where other truck company clients will buy his liner for their damn trucks.

00:50:59.680 Right. Because the Chinese have a version that's about a third the price.

00:51:03.980 Oh, yeah. We deal with this. We launched skateboards.

00:51:06.940 And when we were discussing with with our distributors and the people who work in the industry, they said, here's the Chinese option and they're actually very well made and they're a lot cheaper.

00:51:17.540 And here's the American version, also extremely well made and they're more expensive.

00:51:22.260 And I said, we buy American. We don't we're not we're not taking cheap Chinese products.

00:51:25.620 I'm not doing this to to line my pockets.

00:51:28.740 But the issue is we have the ability to do so because I have the ability to invest.

00:51:33.620 We have great members and with their memberships, we have the ability to say we're going to invest in what's right for these other companies.

00:51:39.500 They're struggling. They take a look at their options and they say, go with China so we can save as much money as possible.

00:51:44.320 And all that does is weaken our economy and make it harder for this this base is manufacturing base in this country to come back.

00:51:50.980 So many of these, you know, I'll throw I'll put it this way.

00:51:54.560 So many diners across this country do not use real butter.

00:51:58.300 It's because the average person's not asking for it.

00:52:00.200 And so when they walk in the diner, this this this one small family owned diner says we use hydrolyzed soy hydrogenated garbage because no one's no one's complaining.

00:52:09.620 But if we spend the extra 500 bucks a month to use real butter, we can't compete with these other stores.

00:52:15.200 And that just degrades everything to where we're eating poison, using cheap products and giving away our labor force.

00:52:20.200 Yeah. Yeah.

00:52:21.480 I mean, it's been a long term plan.

00:52:23.160 Yeah.

00:52:23.560 The New World Order.

00:52:24.340 I wrote my book on it, actually, my thesis work at college was on the New World Order and it wasn't a conspiracy theory.

00:52:30.400 It was it was a British plan that we're drawing this up in the 20s and 30s.

00:52:33.420 We're talking about how do we basically turn the British Empire into the Commonwealth, because we can't we don't we can't garrison an empire.

00:52:41.080 That's what they realized with the Bar War, basically.

00:52:43.040 Right.

00:52:43.200 They realized they couldn't garrison a quarter of the planet, which was under their control.

00:52:47.280 They had to start giving the illusion of independence, which to this day, they're still part of the Commonwealth.

00:52:51.720 Australia, Canada, the king of England is still their king.

00:52:54.800 And it's the illusion of sovereignty.

00:52:57.860 But they basically wanted to reincorporate America into the British Empire.

00:53:01.020 And that's the will of Cecil Rhodes.

00:53:03.200 And and basically they pushed this agenda since the First World War, which we had no business getting involved with.

00:53:08.600 But it was a financial war on behalf of, you know, J.P. Morgan.

00:53:13.620 You should drop your master's thesis on the Internet.

00:53:15.980 I swear to God.

00:53:16.700 No, it's online.

00:53:17.280 It's a it's a book.

00:53:18.080 It's New World Order.

00:53:18.740 It's on Amazon.

00:53:19.920 People can read it.

00:53:20.760 But essentially, to your point about the recruitment of the intellectual class, I mean,

00:53:25.800 I focused on a guy named Elliot, William Elliot, who was the teacher of Harvard for 40 years of Kissinger and the Brzezinski and Huntington and all these guys who came through there.

00:53:34.800 And he, Elliot, was trained by the roundtable groups of England in this ideology.

00:53:39.240 Right.

00:53:39.640 Which is globalism, as you say.

00:53:41.160 And, you know, Kissinger goes on to what?

00:53:42.840 Open China with the intention of the Rockefellers, you know, basically backing it to say we want to.

00:53:48.280 Yeah.

00:53:48.900 Move.

00:53:49.400 Financial capitalism wants to go global.

00:53:51.500 We want it to be industrialized America.

00:53:53.260 We want America to be one cog within the global machine.

00:53:56.160 We want you to be a weakened power because when you're sovereign, as you know, from war and anything, when you're sovereign, you have your own energy.

00:54:03.180 You have your own industry.

00:54:04.100 You feed yourself.

00:54:04.980 You cannot be controlled the same way as when you depend upon, you know, your labor from, you know, your labor or your goods or your products coming from another country.

00:54:13.720 And this is all playing it.

00:54:15.500 And whether it was drugs, you know, whether it's the drug traffic, it's the arms traffic, it's the traffic in, you know, you name it humans, it's the traffic in cheap labor, it's the traffic in goods.

00:54:23.340 It's all about this British imperial, you know, merchant game essentially, right, and finance capitalism being transnational.

00:54:31.860 So the financier class, going back to the, you know, 100 years ago, they actually, if you look at the British Empire, a lot of these guys actually, the imperial, you know, the Milners and others who were basically, you know, financier class, they all embraced socialism.

00:54:45.880 They understood that socialism essentially would give, you know, basically it would create a system where you wouldn't be much of middle class.

00:54:52.840 You give the worker, give them just enough, right, give them just enough to keep them happy.

00:54:55.940 But you really have a small elite that rules it.

00:54:59.000 And so the imperialists actually made a deal with this, essentially brought the socialist policy into their ideology.

00:55:05.460 What they hated was the American system, the American system of, you know, Henry Ford and people like that saying, hey, I want my workers to have good wages because then they can buy my goods.

00:55:15.140 They're more productive.

00:55:15.780 And they can, well, they can be more productive.

00:55:17.260 They can buy my goods if they have good wages.

00:55:19.300 So I always say it's the difference in the businessman and the banker.

00:55:22.860 The banker doesn't care if you get paid well or not.

00:55:25.640 He'll give you a line of credit and you'll be a debt slave for the rest of your life.

00:55:30.000 Guys, the internet is down?

00:55:31.880 So that's it.

00:55:32.640 You know, basically it's the financier which wants you to be a debt slave and the businessman that says, hey, I want you to have good wages so you can, you know, be able to buy goods.

00:55:39.900 And that's essentially, I think, the war that we're seeing in America between the Musks and the Trumps coming and saying, hey, we've got a problem in our country.

00:55:46.560 We're in $35 trillion debt.

00:55:48.420 You're basically going to have to start selling our resources to pay this off.

00:55:51.080 We cannot get out of this.

00:55:51.940 And I think that was the wake-up call for a lot of the nationalists and the patriots coming together to say, we need to start making a move here against this globalist faction.

00:55:59.580 Otherwise, there will be no America.

00:56:00.760 And that's very quickly, I think, where we saw things going.

00:56:04.100 And now the patriots have woken up and the dialogue.

00:56:06.160 Everything is changing.

00:56:07.000 I mean, people are waking up to these things that I'm saying.

00:56:08.940 Yeah, I mean, I think, I mean, that's the essence.

00:56:13.620 So what Sean Stone just said, that is the essence of what we have been facing for probably 50 years.

00:56:23.220 I mean, as you said, back in the, it was post-World War I when the New World Order, as a coined term, actually came into vogue.

00:56:31.460 But that's what we've been facing.

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00:58:07.000 Speed, I think, turned up a bit when Obama was put into the presidency.

00:58:13.320 Yep, clearly.

00:58:14.000 Because he was a physical puppet of that.

00:58:20.200 Did you notice, have you ever seen the LexisNexis data around terms like white privilege, diversity, equity, and inclusion?

00:58:27.500 Around the late 2000s, every single media organization in the world saw an exponential increase in leftist, woke ideological terminology.

00:58:40.480 A lot of people will show the New York Times and the Washington Post and say, look at this spike in this ideology in the United States.

00:58:49.400 This proves it was the universities indoctrinating millennials who went to the workforce.

00:58:52.900 And I say that's actually incorrect.

00:58:54.120 It's social media platforms incentivized by advertisers.

00:58:57.840 And perhaps something else, perhaps something more nefarious, started algorithmically promoting a certain ideology to young people.

00:59:05.580 And the reason why these terms were appearing in the media was because this is what the social media companies would promote.

00:59:11.200 So if you worked for Puffington Post, for instance, and you read an article that said George W. Bush is great, or, you know, let's say it's 2008 and it's the election.

00:59:20.720 If you write John McCain is good, you're not going to get shares.

00:59:23.780 You're not going to make any money.

00:59:24.500 You write Barack Obama is good, straight to the top.

00:59:27.720 Facebook recommends it to everybody.

00:59:29.260 You make a million dollars.

00:59:30.700 This created an advertisement and economic incentive.

00:59:33.560 And I believe advertisers were largely driving this as well, where media companies were pushing this ideology intentionally.

00:59:41.480 Or I should say not intentionally, but they were pushing it with the intent to share these terms because it made them money.

00:59:46.940 I'm wondering if you think perhaps that there's a, you know, as people call it, face CIA book.

00:59:51.060 Was there an intelligence or component to these social media companies injecting this ideology globally for this purpose?

00:59:59.780 Yeah.

01:00:00.060 And it really, really was tested and proven out during World War II.

01:00:05.700 So when you think about organizations like BBC and other, you know, media outlets of recognition or name, of brand here in this country, and the OSS became masters of it.

01:00:19.120 They learned a lot from the Nazis.

01:00:21.020 And then fast forward into the 50s, you know, when you started to see the commercialization of intelligence and how to influence, right?

01:00:32.720 So the magazines.

01:00:34.380 Yeah.

01:00:34.640 Music, how they changed music.

01:00:36.280 Exactly.

01:00:37.140 Exactly.

01:00:37.760 The top 40 project, right?

01:00:39.060 Right.

01:00:39.220 To influence the culture of your music.

01:00:40.640 You know, and, you know, the mockingbird and I mean, all the different, there's, there's different names for some of these different operations that the, that the intelligence community got into.

01:00:48.880 And the, the, the development of, of human capital people that would get trained in different capabilities.

01:00:58.760 And then they would move them into the corporate media, you know, and, you know, principally the big three for a while.

01:01:06.300 And then, of course, when cable news came out, and that's why, that's why I'm, I'm such a big believer in, and Sean, you just said it about, you know, where, where people have come, right?

01:01:17.360 Where, what, what Americans are now, Americans are now going to where there's freedom, where they feel there's a sense of liberty in, on the airwaves.

01:01:26.840 And there are places like, you know, it's places like, you know, it's places like your, your show and other shows where people are, they can move.

01:01:33.260 They don't have to, they don't have to sit there and go in front of a TV any longer because innovation, technology, hell, we haven't even, I don't think we've scratched the surface on artificial intelligence yet.

01:01:44.240 Oh, yeah.

01:01:44.880 We haven't scratched the surface on it.

01:01:46.400 So, you know, you mentioned before that the plan was eight years of Obama, eight years of Hillary, and Tim Kast live from Daily Wire would not exist.

01:01:53.420 Next, is, is there, you know, if they're not through with Trump, and this is just, what do you say, it's, it's D-Day plus one.

01:02:01.300 Right.

01:02:02.080 Is there going to be an effort, and is it even possible to do away with the massive independent media operation that exists today?

01:02:10.280 I mean, how do you get rid of a Daily Wire?

01:02:12.380 How do you get rid of a Tim Kast or a Steven Crowder?

01:02:14.760 You know what, you know, have you ever heard of a, like a, and you've seen them, a national emergency broadcast?

01:02:21.080 Yeah.

01:02:21.280 Where, like, all of a sudden, like, everything stops, and the United States government comes in and goes, we are, you know, we, there's an alert.

01:02:29.640 Yeah.

01:02:29.840 Okay?

01:02:30.720 Okay, so the, so the U.S. government has extraordinary capabilities.

01:02:36.780 And, but they, but I, I, I hear you.

01:02:39.040 What about the internet freedom issue?

01:02:40.420 The, um, the internet freedom?

01:02:42.120 Well, it's interesting, because I, you know, I went, I went up to the Western mountains in North Carolina about two weeks ago, spent a couple of days up there, you know,

01:02:50.700 helping out and just doing an assessment of, of the situation.

01:02:54.180 And it's the first time in, like, 45 years for me being on a ham radio.

01:03:01.620 Okay?

01:03:02.700 So the, the, and I have a background, I have one of my master's degrees is in telecommunications.

01:03:08.140 And, and the world of sort of, of, of the terrestrial world of communications is fascinating if you really deeply understand it.

01:03:17.060 So, uh, ham radio operators, that's why ham radio operators, there's not a lot of them, you're not going to find them all over the place, but they, but they exist.

01:03:23.660 And yet, it's one area.

01:03:25.520 So if the government comes in and says, we're going to shut down communications in this country, which they could do.

01:03:32.140 Like the, the FCC, the FCC, Federal Communications Commission, it is the most, to me, it's one of the most powerful positions in the government.

01:03:41.960 It's a person that's, that's generally chosen for about 10 years.

01:03:45.920 It's very powerful because they own the internet.

01:03:49.220 So you're, we, we are communicating over a segment of the internet.

01:03:53.120 That segment isn't owned by you.

01:03:55.720 It's actually, and you kind of go, well, who owns it then?

01:03:58.600 Well, it's supposed to be, you know, actually we own it, right?

01:04:02.360 The American people own it because we kind of run it because of all these satellites and all these different things.

01:04:07.420 You know, like telephones that you probably might've had when you were a little kid, you know, the old two pair copper wire, because we ran copper all over this country.

01:04:15.940 So the U.S. government has done some smart things for purposes of national security to be able to control communications when they need to, to get out things like a warning, like we've got incoming, you know, nuclear attack.

01:04:29.360 So, you know, I mean, I grew up in the days of schools where we had to duck underneath our desks, okay?

01:04:35.520 So the government can do that if they want to.

01:04:38.620 And you know what?

01:04:40.300 I'm not going to put that past this, this crowd that's currently in there.

01:04:44.500 I'm not, I will not, I will not sit here and go, oh, they never do it.

01:04:48.040 They never do it.

01:04:48.840 Just like they'd never take two shots at Donald Trump.

01:04:52.100 Okay.

01:04:52.240 Not, not one, two.

01:04:54.660 And they, you know, and, and, and the potential for them to do it again is very real.

01:04:58.920 You're going to say something.

01:05:00.020 Um, no, I mean, you mentioned the, the two shots.

01:05:03.100 I was actually thinking earlier, I was wondering what your sense about how much, if the, the two individuals that attack, that were trying to, uh, that tried to assassinate Trump, if they were, um, lone wolves or if they were.

01:05:15.500 No, no, you know what?

01:05:16.900 When they talk about lone wolves, I'm not a believer in lone wolves, you know?

01:05:20.560 And the second guy for sure was on the FBI's radar.

01:05:23.480 In fact, I think he worked for the FBI.

01:05:24.640 And the fact that, that the, the, he was over in, uh, in, uh, Ukraine, recruiting, you know, Afghans.

01:05:32.940 I mean, I guarantee that the CIA had him on their radar.

01:05:37.540 Okay.

01:05:37.900 Cause there's no way in the world that a U S citizen like him, that kind of a profile and what he was doing is going to be wandering around out there on a battlefield without the, without the CIA knowing that he was out there doing it.

01:05:49.220 And maybe, you know, I mean, I want to know, that's what I want to know.

01:05:52.980 So, so nobody has said anything.

01:05:54.700 I've, I've been very, you know, pretty public about this.

01:05:57.260 The other thing is, you know, there's a, there's, there's some other potential evidence of other people that were working with this guy that are, you know, that are now in Congress.

01:06:07.700 Okay.

01:06:08.180 And we'll, we'll see what happens with that here.

01:06:11.480 But, um, so I'm not a big believer in these lone wolves.

01:06:15.340 I mean, do they exist?

01:06:16.500 Yeah, they probably do.

01:06:17.880 But it's like, I've dealt in the military.

01:06:20.240 I've dealt with suicides as an example.

01:06:22.520 Okay.

01:06:23.300 And the one thing, you know, somebody goes and hangs himself in a barracks or they shoot themselves at home and everybody goes, Oh my God, this is so sad.

01:06:30.860 And it is, it's a tragedy for the families, for what, you know, whoever's left behind.

01:06:34.760 Right.

01:06:35.420 But the one thing that I've learned in, in all of the, the investigations that I've been involved in with suicides, and it's like a lone wolf.

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01:08:10.240 And you start to look at the profile and the activities and the behavior, the relationships of that person that committed suicide.

01:08:17.480 I guarantee, and it's been 100%, and I've dealt with many, you know, over my career, either investigating another unit or my own unit, where somebody else always knew.

01:08:29.220 The person said, I'm going to kill myself.

01:08:31.920 And they didn't say anything.

01:08:33.340 So when we say, oh, the lone wolf, you know, I mean, we've seen examples of, you know, where the mother knew the kid had three guns or the mother bought the guns and she's, you know, and she let them have them.

01:08:45.080 I mean, so there's not this idea.

01:08:48.760 So you're saying Lee Harvey Oswald didn't act alone.

01:08:50.660 No.

01:08:51.280 But it's also that comes out.

01:08:53.120 So just going to step back a little bit, it feels to me like, and maybe this is naive, the deep state machine has been unraveling.

01:09:01.880 One way I described it is that they say wealth lasts three generations.

01:09:06.740 Somebody works really, really hard.

01:09:08.120 They roll up their sleeves.

01:09:09.040 They become wealthy, and they drive themselves to the bone.

01:09:12.140 And then their children inherit the company and have a general idea of how to maintain and run things because they watch their parents or their dad do it.

01:09:18.600 And then the grandkid inherits the company, has no idea.

01:09:22.060 It's a copy of a copy of a copy.

01:09:23.780 And then eventually the company just is sold off, falls apart, and they lose their money.

01:09:27.360 And I feel like the grandchildren of those who are inheriting the deep state have no idea how to maintain what was built by their grandparents.

01:09:36.320 And so we end up seeing this case with Trump in Butler, PA, which, but for the grace of God, Donald Trump dodged a bullet.

01:09:43.040 But you look at the story in and of itself, and the guy snuck in, and they knew, did nothing.

01:09:50.040 The guy flew a drone over Butler.

01:09:51.900 They did nothing.

01:09:52.660 The guy was carrying a rangefinder in a bag.

01:09:54.620 They did nothing.

01:09:55.720 They, for whatever reason, did not have Secret Service stationed on top of a roof with a line of sight directly to the president.

01:10:02.880 Local police said four days before they gave advanced warning to the Secret Service to cover this.

01:10:07.540 The day before the shooting, the FBI claims to have alerted the Secret Service of a plot to assassinate Donald Trump.

01:10:14.660 Donald, they identified this guy three hours, two hours, 24 minutes, 10 minutes before the shot was fired, and they released Donald Trump from the holding area.

01:10:23.300 When the shooter was identified on the roof, they did not remove Donald Trump from the stage.

01:10:29.460 There is no way that's a lone wolf accident.

01:10:33.100 You would have to be, look, listen, I don't like conspiracy theories.

01:10:37.180 I don't, you know why?

01:10:38.060 Because they're so assumptive.

01:10:39.340 These people are jumping from, it's, you know, I always tell people, when I see these crazy conspiracies, you know, be it there's a military base under the Denver airport because the horse, Belucifer, I'm like, you've taken a jigsaw piece, you've looked at a hole, and you're mashing it with a hammer to make it fit.

01:10:56.280 But this crook story out of Butler, PA, if you say this was a lone wolf accident, you are taking a jigsaw piece that does not fit and bashing it with a hammer until it's mashed into this position.

01:11:08.260 It doesn't fit.

01:11:09.880 I'm sorry.

01:11:10.300 There's no way two law enforcement agencies allowed this guy for several hours to bypass every single degree of security with a weapon and a range finder.

01:11:19.160 And to climb on a roof.

01:11:20.220 To climb on a roof.

01:11:21.560 And when the local law enforcement body camera comes out and he's, the cop's pulling himself up and he sees him and the guy points a gun at him.

01:11:28.340 From that moment, they didn't say, get the president off the stage.

01:11:32.900 You had, I think it was what, it was at 30 seconds.

01:11:35.620 It may have been 10 seconds.

01:11:37.140 Where a counter sniper sees him on the roof, sees that going on.

01:11:40.580 And is it not they're trying to say, pull the president now?

01:11:44.200 No one did anything.

01:11:45.420 But you know, we don't even need to get to that point.

01:11:46.780 Dan Bongino points out, having worked Secret Service, there's a holding area where they keep the president if there is an identified threat.

01:11:56.000 They identified Brooks several hours in advance, an hour in advance, 20 some odd minutes, 10 minutes.

01:12:02.060 And they said, no, Trump, you're good to go.

01:12:03.880 None of that fits.

01:12:05.420 It makes no sense.

01:12:07.580 So it's, it's, look, I'm not saying I know what happened.

01:12:09.720 I'm saying if you believe the lone wolf theory of a crazy guy who snuck in, you are the most extreme of conspiracy theorists making the wildest and most psychotic and schizophrenic assumptions to make that story.

01:12:22.460 Well, no, most, actually, the bigger argument I hear generally is it was fake.

01:12:26.060 That's, that's what I generally get from the left, actually, is that it was a fake assassination.

01:12:30.060 Absolutely.

01:12:30.540 And that is, that is a deranged conspiracy theory as well.

01:12:33.120 Right.

01:12:33.300 I agree.

01:12:34.100 I'm just saying that's the argument is that I say, okay, well then, so no one died.

01:12:36.880 Oh, no, he died, but he, but Trump killed him.

01:12:38.720 Like, did a bullet pass by Trump's head?

01:12:41.020 That's all I want to know because Trump's really crazy.

01:12:43.080 If he's like, yeah, take shots near my head, I'm sorry.

01:12:46.200 You got to be really, really, yeah.

01:12:48.060 And at that moment, he didn't need to.

01:12:49.380 He had just destroyed Biden, by the way, a few days before.

01:12:52.100 There was no need for him to do that.

01:12:53.060 And at this point, Biden had not yet dropped out.

01:12:55.220 It was, I think it was a couple, it was a couple of days later, Biden, or a week later or so, was it?

01:12:58.880 I'm getting my time messed up.

01:12:59.940 What happened actually was pretty, to me, it was pretty clear.

01:13:03.840 Because I think a lot of us said they're going to kill this guy, right?

01:13:05.840 We all were waiting for this, and it was a miraculous, it was an amazing moment, energetically, for the country to see him survive.

01:13:12.240 It was the aversion of JFK, because a lot of us who know, you know, talk about the crazy conspiracy theory growing up.

01:13:17.440 That was, you know, the film I was in as a kid, and I knew a lot about as a kid growing up.

01:13:22.620 You know, the JFK assassination was devastating for your generation.

01:13:25.680 And it marked the baby boomers, him, MLK, Malcolm X, RFK, destroyed that generation psychologically in many ways.

01:13:34.700 I mean, you know, my family, we grew up as Democrats, you know, stayed around, you know, southeastern New England, big, big fans of the Kennedy family.

01:13:44.660 And we grew up as Democrats.

01:13:46.860 I mean, I, you know, I went through my, you know, actually, when I, when I went into the White House as a national security advisor, I was a, quote unquote, registered Democrat.

01:13:54.820 You know, like I say, I don't give a shit about the politics as much as about the direction that the country's taken.

01:14:00.700 I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm still feeling pretty good.

01:14:04.260 We can talk about, you know, the deep state was, was going, going after all these individuals going after you, but it does seem like they're losing.

01:14:10.500 I mean, maybe.

01:14:11.000 No, there are definitely on there, there, but, but, you know, so don't.

01:14:14.820 Don't, in warfare, in warfare, there's a phrase, the enemy always has a vote, okay?

01:14:22.700 Wow.

01:14:23.100 And do not ever underestimate your enemy.

01:14:25.840 Well, no, of course.

01:14:26.780 So, I totally agree with you.

01:14:28.500 Like, you know, like I, like we were talking earlier, you know, we all, I mean, I was so elated when, when the, you know, when it was all announced on Tuesday night.

01:14:38.300 And I'm thinking to myself, man, talk about dodging a bullet.

01:14:42.540 You know, a lot of people dodged a bullet.

01:14:44.560 There's a conspiracy.

01:14:45.880 You dodged a bullet.

01:14:47.100 This, this organization dodged a bullet.

01:14:49.780 The, the, the freedom to speak freely in this country dodged a bullet.

01:14:54.380 The ability to do the things that we need to do dodged a bullet.

01:14:57.900 Do not underestimate what these people are capable of doing.

01:15:01.480 And they're not going to simply roll over.

01:15:04.220 And so, if I, if, I, I don't really, I honestly, I don't give a shit if people believe me or not, Tim.

01:15:10.780 I really don't.

01:15:12.040 I, this is, but I firmly believe what I am saying.

01:15:16.920 And it doesn't come from something that I just got up this morning and read on the internet.

01:15:21.500 It comes from a lifetime of experience studying, fighting, you know, being, being persecuted and, and living in an environment that has, my life has been examining the, the threats that, that come against the United States of America.

01:15:43.060 As a young officer, yeah, it's a, it's on the battlefield and it's a, and it's formations and, and military units.

01:15:48.820 But as I got more senior, it's looking at these ideologies that compete against the United States of America.

01:15:54.500 And it kind of goes back to what you had talked about where you asked earlier.

01:15:57.960 And I'm not sure I answered the question, you know, clearly, but like, it's kind of like, why do they want this?

01:16:04.680 And I was talking to, I get into the whole geology thing.

01:16:07.280 I mean, they want it because it's, it's absolute power.

01:16:11.520 I mean, when you think about, when you think about the Bolshevik revolution, when you think about guys like the rise of Adolf Hitler, when you think about Mao Zedong, I mean, China would not exist today were it not for the United States of America going in and, and, and beating the pants off of the imperialist Japanese and driving them from modern day Burma all the way back to Japan.

01:16:32.180 And then dropping two atom bombs because the first one, it's why the reason why we dropped the second one, because the first one didn't convince them enough.

01:16:40.760 So there's a double conspiracy.

01:16:42.740 So if you go back 20 years, you've got people like Alex Jones, very, very anti-government, very critical of everything in government.

01:16:51.140 Uh, still many of these, uh, these individuals consider themselves to be people who love America and the double conspiracy is that the plan actually isn't to go after Donald Trump.

01:17:02.760 The plan is to get the anti-American element to support the government as a whole.

01:17:10.940 And so, and I'm not, I'm not saying it's true.

01:17:13.280 I'm explaining the double conspiracy, it's an inverse conspiracy, not a double conspiracy.

01:17:16.060 The idea was the deep state comes together and says, we have had this persistent dissenting faction that no matter what hates Congress, hates the Supreme court.

01:17:25.560 They're critical of everything.

01:17:26.440 They're critical of police.

01:17:27.580 They want alternative currencies.

01:17:29.200 They're launching these, these alternate currencies.

01:17:31.280 They are challenging us.

01:17:32.120 How do we get these people to invert their ideology and wave the American flag and cheer for the establishment, the entire structure of U.S. government?

01:17:42.460 So the cabal put Trump in the first.

01:17:43.880 So what they do is you can't, you can't just come out and say, this is the guy, trust me, because people are going to say, yeah, yeah, we've been there.

01:17:50.540 We've done that.

01:17:51.120 You're the machine.

01:17:51.920 What you do is you bring about a guy who is opposed by the machine.

01:17:55.980 You choose one of the most unlikable candidates to receive support from every institution, criticizing and lying about who, about your real choice.

01:18:05.540 So as it goes, the deep state wants Trump to be president, but they need him to be an underdog fighting against them.

01:18:12.340 So they play the villain.

01:18:14.280 Trump is actually in their corner.

01:18:16.200 He's the real deep state.

01:18:17.440 They fabricate the scenario where the evil government is trying to stop the people from rising up.

01:18:22.460 And 10 years later, you've got anarchists and conspiracy theorists cheering on the Senate Supreme Court and the executive branch in all of their on all of their glory and all of their plans and all of their missions are receiving the backing.

01:18:34.880 Not just because this is the man who defeated the deep state, but because you've created a tribal component where a large portion of the right, I wouldn't say the majority, have to oppose the left.

01:18:46.100 This is why you see gender ideology.

01:18:49.300 Like in what reality does it make sense to give children sex changes?

01:18:52.460 So I'm not saying the conspiracy theory is true.

01:18:54.220 I'm saying since Donald Trump began to run, I was in Fort Lauderdale and there were protesters outside of his rally and they were holding up signs with our images of Trump and Hillary Clinton hanging out and being friends.

01:19:05.240 And this is what they were saying.

01:19:06.720 They were saying Trump is the false prophet.

01:19:08.920 The deep state have chosen him.

01:19:11.160 They're setting him up to be this anti-hero who's challenging the machine when in reality he's he is the machine.

01:19:18.200 That way you all cheer for him and they've convinced you to support them.

01:19:22.960 I mean, I love that.

01:19:24.800 You ought to write a book about that.

01:19:25.920 Well, no, no, no, it makes I mean, look, there is there is certainly things you could say make sense about it, like the vaccine rollout.

01:19:32.200 Right.

01:19:32.400 There is something to that where he did authorize this whole, you know, uh, it's not even a vaccine.

01:19:37.500 What is it?

01:19:37.760 Genetic modification, right?

01:19:38.880 The mRNA technology, right?

01:19:40.280 Why would he do that if there wasn't a component of the deep state?

01:19:43.520 Obviously, through his whole first administration.

01:19:45.000 But to his credit, he didn't start a new war.

01:19:48.180 Obviously, he did, you know, he did certain things that we can agree with, but it wasn't a great.

01:19:52.300 It wasn't a perfect presidency by far.

01:19:54.700 So what do you think of that argument?

01:19:56.140 Do you think that's true?

01:19:57.040 Yeah.

01:19:57.080 Well, I because because I know like I am, you know, I've been on the Internet.

01:20:03.940 You know, you do is really dig into the people that are the sort of the Flynn haters.

01:20:07.560 I mean, I'm running a a worldwide global pedophile ring.

01:20:13.320 Oh, no, I heard here that you're that you're actually trying to become president.

01:20:15.940 That was one of my favorites.

01:20:17.260 You're actually trying to basically get rid of Trump and take over as the president.

01:20:20.720 That's what I heard.

01:20:21.200 I mean, Jesus, you know, so I I've heard that not in the detail and not in the in the way that you just articulated, which I really find fascinating for.

01:20:35.300 Number one, having met him, spoken with him, traveled with him, served for him and gotten to know him and his family, particularly Eric, Don Jr.

01:20:50.000 But but really, Eric, I've gotten to know Eric quite quite well.

01:20:52.840 You know, and Ivanka, Jared, I mean, others in their family, you know, there's no effing way in the world that that is a you know, there's there's nothing true to that.

01:21:05.860 People will believe that kind of stuff, though.

01:21:08.060 And and I'll say this, too.

01:21:09.100 I agree.

01:21:10.020 I think it's this is the problem I have with conspiracy theories is that you have to make tremendous leaps and tremendous assumptions to get to that point.

01:21:16.560 Right. And Occam's razor suggests in the absence of evidence, the solution that makes the least amount of assumptions tends to be correct.

01:21:22.400 And that is a very, very popular celebrity with his name in gold letters on tops of buildings was able to muster up more popular support than one of the most despised politicians in history, Hillary Clinton.

01:21:32.740 And they wanted her to be in charge so that she could perpetuate these wars in the Middle East.

01:21:37.600 And the reason I would say outright, you know, I bring up the conspiracy theory because I think it's funny.

01:21:41.260 But the reason I would just give my my counterpoint as to why it's absolutely not true is that the near complete reversal of deep state interventionist foreign policy under Donald Trump.

01:21:51.100 It would make no sense if that was the case.

01:21:53.020 I think I think the more likely conspiracy is the idea that he could they thought maybe at some level he could be a useful idiot.

01:21:58.620 Right. So I remember when he first was running and there was this whole question, you know, did the Clintons put him up to this?

01:22:03.900 Is he doing this for more attention? Is he trying to make money off of this? Right.

01:22:07.500 And you just watch the actions, you know, taking someone like you who certainly the Obama literally said about Flynn, you know, don't hire Flynn.

01:22:14.440 This guy's dangerous. Why? Because he knows he knows how the deep state works.

01:22:18.380 He could have come in there and clean things out. Trump took you on. He didn't have to do that.

01:22:21.920 He was I think at some level there was a hope that they could play him and they and they did to a certain extent.

01:22:28.620 But not fully, because even though they got a Bolton in there, but he wouldn't start, you know, he wouldn't escalate.

01:22:33.020 He wouldn't escalate against Iran. I mean, even before that, I'm sorry, Sean, even before that, I think the the placement of Mike Pence as a vice president, you know, Trump didn't know him.

01:22:44.820 You know, I mean, so it's like the establishment. You put this modifying element person, you know, in into his orbit.

01:22:55.060 I mean, so so Trump won the presidency. Mike Pence became the vice president. Trump wins the presidency.

01:23:01.020 So, OK, good. Mike helped him win the vice presidency. But his he you know, his position was to keep to kind of be a modifying element or force within the White House to keep him calm, you know, to kind of keep going along with the all the way, all the way to January 6th.

01:23:19.760 And I think you'll see through the course of the series why the conspiracy worked in the sense that Trump came in there with this attitude of, hey, why are we financing NATO?

01:23:28.480 Hey, why can't we get along with the Russians? That was the biggest that was the trigger point for them.

01:23:32.240 They could not allow us to have good relations with Russia, which really could have stabilized a lot in the last eight years.

01:23:37.760 It would not have had the Ukraine war, as you know, and this this conspiracy, as you know, with the with the FBI notes and other things, they had to set this Russian collusion thing up so that he could not do what he wanted to do before coming into office, which was to work with Russia.

01:23:50.320 And I know when we were doing the filming for this, I mean, one of the things that, again, people you got to you got to look at not just a, you know, a blip on the screen, you got to look at the kind of the totality of of events over time and to really, you know, to make a judgment, to make a really strong, valid judgment on something, you know, instead of just assuming that these things occurred.

01:24:14.100 So so Russia's relationship with the United States of America during the Obama administration, I mean, we were working directly with the Russians in Syria.

01:24:24.460 I mean, we're flying, you know, we're flying aircraft. They're flying aircraft. We're we're we're going after, you know, terrorists. They're going after terrorists. We're working together. We're communicating.

01:24:33.860 I mean, it was like they had a they had a it was at least a half of a naval fleet first time ever in the Eastern Med at the time that they're conducting operations where our military is working with them.

01:24:46.400 During my earlier time in the military, after the collapse of the of the Soviet Union and the ending of the Cold War, we began to to to have what's called the partners for peace operations.

01:24:57.780 Right. I mean, we would have extra training exercise with them. I how I attended command and general staff college at at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.

01:25:06.200 And in my staff group was a Russian colonel. Right. I mean, so there was all this outreach we have had.

01:25:12.720 We have actually had positive relations with Russia for a long time.

01:25:17.220 And then all of a sudden, then all of a sudden they became like the boogeyman again.

01:25:22.580 Can you tell us a little bit about the Qatar Turkey pipeline?

01:25:26.480 I bring it up quite a bit, but I'm curious to your experience.

01:25:29.720 So the story that that I've followed for a long time and the reason why Russia becomes this boogeyman,

01:25:34.340 the United States wanted to build a pipeline from Qatar through Syria through Turkey into Europe to compete with Gazprom.

01:25:41.080 They wanted to offset their right.

01:25:43.140 The ability that we say monopoly, but it's about 20 percent of the natural gas into Europe.

01:25:47.620 Syria outright says no to the US.

01:25:49.460 We're not going to allow you to do this because it will disrupt our ally Russia who relies on this control of natural gas.

01:25:55.160 Syria then falls into what is very fortuitous for the United States, a civil war.

01:25:59.860 ISIS emerges.

01:26:01.860 Seems like Barack Obama just can't get a hold of things and it's destabilizing the region.

01:26:05.440 And I think the bigger picture seems to be that once Syria is kind of out of it, like Assad seems to maintain control, all of a sudden you get the Burisma scandal.

01:26:18.720 And it seems like the United States, the West and the and these intelligence agencies are trying to find a way to disrupt Russia's energy control into Europe.

01:26:28.060 The argument they've made when they try to be less conspiratorial is, oh, it's just it's hard to grow the European economy with these with with this expense that we're facing.

01:26:37.680 And you see riots over these prices and thus we have to do something to offset Russia's control.

01:26:44.640 But when you get the the Nord Stream bombing, you get the U.S. seemingly odd support for Ukraine in this conflict.

01:26:52.820 It really does feel like it's just the West, Europe, the United States, NATO trying to destroy Russia so that they can establish control over energy or something to that effect.

01:27:03.200 Yeah. So, you know, we've talked about the energy resources here in this country and, you know, and there's a lot more detail to that.

01:27:10.780 But we have extraordinary capacity here. And I think Trump is is is right to use the the the the geography, the geology, the energy capabilities that we have to leverage as a as a massive strength,

01:27:24.580 as a as a as a way for us to show like a healthy body of America to really get our economy going again.

01:27:31.720 That puts us in a in a seat, you know, sort of in the cat catbird seat.

01:27:35.260 So what you're talking about is is all of these different flows of of of a capability, primarily energy.

01:27:43.500 There's three principal commodities on the planet that all nation states, you know, they all have to have all human beings have to have.

01:27:53.120 And that's food, water and energy, food, water and energy.

01:27:56.880 And in some cases, you can't have the you can't have the first two without the energy resources to be able to drive the productivity,

01:28:02.760 the production, the water, you know, getting getting water out of the ground.

01:28:06.980 I mean, and and and purifying it, all the things that has to happen.

01:28:10.660 Those are the three principal things. So where you have it and, you know, the Persian Gulf, right?

01:28:15.380 We've been putting aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf for decades to protect the free flow of oil out of the out of the Straits of Hormuz.

01:28:23.980 And guess who benefits the most? China.

01:28:27.220 Forty percent of China's energy comes out of the Straits of comes through the Straits of Hormuz.

01:28:31.840 Forty percent. Because China doesn't have like the great wealth that that they that we have in this country or that Russia has.

01:28:39.460 And China and Russia relationships in the past weren't so great.

01:28:43.240 And we were always trying to we were the United States of America was always trying to work that alliance.

01:28:47.460 OK, but for a long time, that was Reagan. Reagan was great at that.

01:28:51.480 He was like he was really trying to make sure that that he was trying to keep Russia away from a Chinese, you know, a Sino China block.

01:29:01.520 Block, right? A Russia block.

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01:30:49.500 Constantly is the great powers are always trying to drive wedges in between the alliances that we are trying to have.

01:30:55.360 So we have partners, we have allies, we have nation-states that are close, you know, the five-eyes kind of crowd.

01:31:01.600 You know, Australia, Canada, and the United Kingdom, as an example, New Zealand.

01:31:05.880 These are supposed to be like we're the English-speaking parts of the world.

01:31:09.320 These are allies.

01:31:10.120 Otherwise, we are constantly having to keep those relationships straight.

01:31:15.040 So everything that you just said about energy resources.

01:31:18.700 Because that's, if you look at, you know, the strategy and then the tactics, right?

01:31:22.040 And then in between to try to drive wealth to certain places.

01:31:26.960 You know, and where there's lots of people that have wealth to be able to purchase energy, right?

01:31:32.400 Like Europe or the United States.

01:31:34.760 I mean, Africa, you know, they're not trying to build big pipelines into Kenya, right?

01:31:39.980 I mean, they should, but they're not.

01:31:42.180 They're not trying to build big pipelines.

01:31:44.260 We don't hear about it going down into South America.

01:31:46.800 They should, and they can.

01:31:47.920 And actually, they actually do pretty good.

01:31:49.880 Paraguay, great country.

01:31:51.760 You know, a democratic country led by a superb president.

01:31:55.640 You see Millay right now.

01:31:57.020 And I guess Millay visited with Trump and Elon the other day, which is good.

01:31:59.900 Because I'm a big fan of his, whatever it is, afuera.

01:32:03.420 And so this idea about energy, I mean, the whole Nord Stream pipeline, you know, destroying that.

01:32:13.140 Now, here's the other thing, because you mentioned Kissinger earlier, talking about Kissinger.

01:32:17.920 So when you look at people like that, and there's others, the former prime minister of Germany is actually on the payroll of Russia.

01:32:24.180 Because the big pipeline comes into Germany, okay, from Russia, big pipeline.

01:32:30.140 And then from Germany, it goes out to all of Europe.

01:32:33.560 And then it flows back down into like, it'll go as far south as Turkey.

01:32:37.400 And then you have the compete, the competition for that resource coming from the Middle East, right?

01:32:43.260 Through some pipelines or whatever.

01:32:44.960 All of that matters.

01:32:46.120 And when you start to look at it, you go, okay, this is, there's somebody getting something on us.

01:32:52.060 And it's just like, just like two kids on a street, right?

01:32:56.160 That are trying to, you know, compete with each other.

01:32:58.760 And you kind of, it's, you know, nation states are like that.

01:33:03.100 They are like that.

01:33:03.720 And it's like, well, we're not going to, this guy, we're not going to allow this guy to be able to do this.

01:33:07.540 And then when you have another nation state like China or Russia that says, well, we're not going to allow the United States to do that.

01:33:13.760 And it's, it's a constant give and take.

01:33:17.160 And what happens is wars start.

01:33:20.120 Wars don't start unintentionally.

01:33:22.720 They don't start unintentionally.

01:33:24.400 They start intentionally.

01:33:26.060 And for very, you know, I mean, I, one of the books I wrote talks about the idea that war is the norm in human history and peace is the aberration.

01:33:35.200 That's why when Trump comes into office in 2017 and he doesn't go to war, everybody's like, oh my God, this is a, you know, this is a guy that's, and I, and I tell people, you know, Tim, I'm not anti-war.

01:33:48.840 I'm anti-stupid war.

01:33:50.600 You know, I mean, there are times when, you know, you know what I'm saying?

01:33:53.440 I mean, it's like, I don't want us to go to war.

01:33:55.160 I'm not, I don't, I'm not, you know, you know, as a, as a former military guy, it's not, that's not my thing.

01:34:01.840 I, but I, when I, when I look at stupid things and, and, and constant participation in warfare for, for things like resources, like we're protecting the Straits of Hormuz.

01:34:12.820 I mean, you know, one thing I say too, is I hear from most people that are like, oh, I oppose the, I oppose, I oppose conscription in the military draft.

01:34:19.240 And I always said, everybody, no, you don't.

01:34:21.540 If China landed a bunch of boats in the shores of North Carolina and started storming in and massacring everybody, you'd say, what can I do to help in two seconds?

01:34:30.140 The issue is that we oppose drafting for these interventionist fake wars overseas.

01:34:34.220 We don't understand, and we don't want to be involved in.

01:34:36.740 If it came down to you defending your own home, I imagine, sure, some people are going to be like, I ain't fighting, get away from me.

01:34:42.160 But that's what we're seeing right now, and that's what we saw, you know, on January 6th, and we've been seeing for the last four years, there's a serious war going on in our country for information.

01:34:51.480 You know, as Alex Jordan's talked about, info wars, right?

01:34:53.860 Fifth generational.

01:34:54.320 Fifth generational warfare, but info wars, information war.

01:34:57.140 We are fighting to say, listen, you guys have been indoctrinated into a globalist ideology.

01:35:01.640 Listen, I went to Princeton.

01:35:02.600 I understand how this works, as we talked about the recruitment process, the recruitment into an education system that tells you, you know, this is normal.

01:35:09.300 This is the way it's supposed to be, climate change, we have to cut down our carbon dioxide.

01:35:13.380 It's like, this is the insanity that gets pushed, right, by the establishment, so then you have to buy into it.

01:35:19.100 Oh, you have to be a, you know, a Democrat who, you know, who believes in DEI, who believes in, you know, being a good person, putting your mask on, getting your vaccine, all this shit.

01:35:27.600 It's information war that starts when you're young, and to basically see how much are you going to conform, and that's why they're making this point in the new election.

01:35:34.560 Oh, the most educated states all vote Democrat.

01:35:36.860 I'm like, you mean the most indoctrinated, because an intelligent person can get an education, but an education does not make you intelligent.

01:35:43.320 Yeah.

01:35:43.740 Yeah.

01:35:44.060 There's an overlap of where people assume that education equals intelligence, and it's more likely that education maps onto indoctrination, as in you know the things that the establishment wants you to know.

01:36:00.320 You have the narrative that the establishment wants you to know.

01:36:03.700 It doesn't mean that you're particularly, that you're definitely going to be more intelligent than other people that don't go to college or whatever.

01:36:10.840 What's your life experience?

01:36:11.640 Are you able to absorb and adapt?

01:36:12.860 Are you able to understand that there is a system that you're performing for, right?

01:36:16.560 And that was a lot of the whole education system backed by the Rockefellers in the beginning and whatnot as a Prussian model of basically saying, let's make you into a good worker.

01:36:23.960 Can you obey orders, right?

01:36:25.440 Can you listen and obey?

01:36:26.980 And so, I mean, we're really in this really weird place where Democrats go, the Republicans are banning books.

01:36:31.300 I'm like, do you understand that education itself is based on books that have been written for you by an establishment that says this is okay to teach kids?

01:36:39.960 I mean, look at your history book.

01:36:40.980 It's like they don't talk about things that we're discussing here.

01:36:43.320 They just tell you very rote things, and then they'll say, you know, and then if they want to lean you in one direction, they'll be like, now it's okay.

01:36:49.420 We have to say, you know, Columbus was bad.

01:36:51.480 The Explorers were evil people.

01:36:53.280 They, you know, genocided.

01:36:53.900 I mean, we're changing in statues now.

01:36:55.680 I mean, we don't even, this is probably something that people say all the time, but we don't even teach our, the citizens of the U.S. how our government works anymore.

01:37:07.720 And they've been replacing, you know, the ideas that, or the instruction that explains how the republic works, they've been replacing it with simplified democracy as an idea.

01:37:19.420 And that's not, I mean, democracy is, it's a simple idea, but our government is much more complex the way that our system works.

01:37:29.320 And it's intended to be more complex than just simple democracy because a simple democracy is going to end up with, you know, essentially mob rule.

01:37:37.960 But I remember very clearly in 2017 when Trump came in, it was the elites basically doubling down saying, my God, we can't let these deplorables tell us what to do actually.

01:37:46.160 So there was something very democratic to Trump's rise, but it was this resentment from the elite because, as you said, they understand the system.

01:37:53.060 They understand it very well.

01:37:54.200 They've played it.

01:37:55.360 But the whole point is you, the common people, aren't supposed to understand it.

01:37:58.760 So when you start talking about conspiracies, not just theories, sure, but real conspiracies, really understanding the dynamics of these systems, the fact that they are so intertwined.

01:38:07.540 And going back to your generational wealth issue, it's actually, sure, three generations if you're coming up now, but if you're a Rockefeller, if you're a Rothschild, if you're even these older families that go back and, you know, you talk to them in Europe and they can trace their ancestry to 1200.

01:38:22.200 You know, they say if your money comes from after 1200 AD, you're nouveau riche.

01:38:26.660 Okay, like this is old money, old ideologies, old, and that's the whole infrastructure of it.

01:38:31.920 So when Wells wrote the New World Order book, H.G. Wells wrote it, the whole point was we're going to start bringing in the, you know, the blacks and the Latinos and the, you know, the colonial peoples of the British Empire into our system.

01:38:44.140 We're going to start to train them.

01:38:45.200 That was the whole Rhodes Scholarship model is that it was to bring people in to say we're going to incorporate you so that you, the former colonies, can run the system.

01:38:52.480 And that's what, you know, that's what we see all over the world, right, the corruption, the idea of these, you know, elites all over the world that are corrupted.

01:38:57.880 Mass migration.

01:38:59.740 I mean, the idea of mass, you know, completely open borders, like an open world.

01:39:04.880 I mean, most Americans don't realize that Trudeau, Biden, and what was Obergine in Mexico, now it's not.

01:39:14.180 But they signed a pact, basically opening up this part of the world, the northern hemisphere of North America, as an open kind of society.

01:39:23.340 They signed it.

01:39:24.080 I mean, he signed off almost three years ago now.

01:39:27.440 And it was just, it was done, you know, and nobody paid any attention.

01:39:30.340 I remember there was a blip.

01:39:31.140 Yeah, I remember something about it, and then it was just quiet.

01:39:32.800 Yeah, and it was going.

01:39:33.240 Nobody told him anything about it.

01:39:34.320 So it's like, this is a belief system that is being imposed on us as though, well, just accept it.

01:39:41.980 How can we not accept people coming in here?

01:39:44.080 I mean, one of the things I'm getting this morning is, you know, getting back to the early conversation about threats,

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01:39:58.320 You know, you kind of go, okay, so, and this is not coming from, you know, some crazy, you know, conspiracy theorist.

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01:41:39.340 is this, you know, kind of your point, Tim, earlier about intentionality.

01:41:43.940 You know, so what's going on?

01:41:45.820 Is this intentionally being done?

01:41:46.940 And the answer is, to a degree, is yeah.

01:41:48.860 This is a very intentional, this is an intentional push to fundamentally change America,

01:41:56.980 as Barack Obama said at one time.

01:41:58.840 And this idea about transforming America from what it was.

01:42:03.100 The one thing that I think that people, that the, and Phil, you were hitting on it,

01:42:08.740 the complexity of our system.

01:42:10.640 I mean, never mind, you know, you look at our elections.

01:42:12.520 We just went through elections, and every state has, you know, a different election system, right?

01:42:15.620 The complexity of the system that the founders created, so, you know, this constitution that

01:42:21.040 has forms of federal government, but every state had its own little world.

01:42:24.980 Like, a lot of time, a lot of the arguments, when you read the Federalist Papers and some

01:42:28.820 of the other documents, I mean, some of the states went in there and said, why do I got

01:42:31.720 to join this?

01:42:32.460 You know, this is the early, you know, the early colonies, right?

01:42:34.740 Why do I got to do this?

01:42:35.880 And they, and they ended up coming together, and they said, okay, we're going to, we're

01:42:38.660 going to come together.

01:42:39.380 And Ben Franklin probably has one of the, one of the greatest statesmen and just ideas

01:42:44.540 about, you know, he told everybody at a, at a moment in time when they were all

01:42:48.240 assembled, he said, okay, let's stop.

01:42:50.100 Let's take a deep breath.

01:42:51.020 Let, let's, let's return to why we came here in the first place, which was religious persecution.

01:42:55.720 And they all had him say a prayer.

01:42:57.480 And then he goes, okay, basically go out and then come back in and let's talk about how

01:43:02.340 we're going to move forward.

01:43:03.280 And, and they did, and they moved forward and, but they still created this very complex

01:43:08.600 system.

01:43:09.660 And that to me is, is the strength of this country is this, the complexity, because, you

01:43:16.980 know, people overseas, dictators, there's no complexity to their system.

01:43:21.120 Communist, you know, communist countries, kings, monarchs, there's no complexity to their

01:43:24.960 system.

01:43:25.320 It's whatever they say, right?

01:43:26.660 So do you want to wrap that?

01:43:28.200 I don't know.

01:43:28.380 No, I just, I just think that, I think people need to understand that, that we, we have extraordinary

01:43:33.840 strengths still in this country when we are led by the right people, you know, people that

01:43:40.180 act, that, that, that fundamentally believe in America for what it was designed to be.

01:43:45.780 Right.

01:43:46.440 And I think that's where, and that's why from my personal perspective, when the first

01:43:51.740 moment that I met Trump up in, up in Trump tower in New York in 2015, I mean, that was

01:43:56.700 the connection that we had because, you know, we're from different worlds and, and that was

01:44:00.220 the connection that we had was, you know, I, I saw this guy and who totally understood

01:44:04.760 our country.

01:44:05.620 He loved it and he understood the world as it was happening and playing out.

01:44:11.380 And he felt so strongly that he could do something about it.

01:44:14.740 And I was like, wow, this is, and we had an amazing conversation, you know, like we're

01:44:19.360 having right now.

01:44:20.060 It's very similar.

01:44:21.180 It's, it was very global and very, you know, looking at the future.

01:44:25.040 How do you fix the future?

01:44:26.420 Right.

01:44:26.620 Not about how screwed up we are.

01:44:28.700 So, so I wanted to ask you then, I don't know if you can answer, but, uh, are there any

01:44:32.640 plans for you to serve in the upcoming Trump administration?

01:44:35.400 None.

01:44:37.400 That's it.

01:44:37.960 That was easy.

01:44:38.440 All right.

01:44:38.720 What do you, what would you like to see, uh, happen then moving forward?

01:44:42.000 No, I, I, I'm, I'm a little tongue in cheek, but, um, I, I, right now I don't have any plans

01:44:47.860 and, and, uh, you know, I, I, you know, I'm a, I'm a bit of a lightning rod, you know,

01:44:54.460 because I'm not, uh, you know, I can, I can, you know, be a member of a, of a team for sure.

01:45:00.700 And, uh, and, and Trump knows this.

01:45:03.160 Um, but there, there's going to be a lot of tension moving forward here, uh, because

01:45:11.300 the, it's not so much the Democrats, we, we kind of know that when I say the Democrats,

01:45:16.400 I, I, I, I don't use that word anymore.

01:45:18.440 I try not to, because it doesn't exist.

01:45:20.360 The Democrat party, you know, this, this left of our country that has, that has grabbed

01:45:26.340 hold, you know, this chokehold of what used to be, you know, uh, uh, a party that had

01:45:33.100 ideas, you know, big government, more taxes, kind of ideas and other things.

01:45:39.140 The, the establishment now I think is where Trump and, and he, and I do know that he,

01:45:46.280 cause I've heard him say it enough now that he's learned a lot of lessons.

01:45:49.980 And so, but there's going to be great tension to say, we got to keep things moving in a,

01:45:56.780 in a certain direction.

01:45:57.840 Right.

01:45:58.280 I mean, I don't know if you know this, but, but, uh, uh, two days ago, the, this administration

01:46:03.660 is talking about sending another $6 billion over to Ukraine.

01:46:07.580 They want to do it before the end of the year.

01:46:09.160 I mean, that's insane.

01:46:11.400 Why?

01:46:12.040 I mean, it's a, it's a $6 billion.

01:46:14.140 Just here, just go put it out in the parking lot out here and light a fire.

01:46:17.620 I mean, it, it, that, that really does indicate that it is about, uh, you know, about corruption

01:46:22.940 and about money laundering more than, than anything else.

01:46:25.680 Well, and I, so I use that example, Phil, because there, there's a tension in Washington,

01:46:31.140 DC and that tension is Trump is, you know, and I'm, I'm, you know, I like the fact that

01:46:36.440 he chose Susie Wiles as his chief and she's going to be a big, she's a great trusted advisor

01:46:41.220 of him.

01:46:41.700 He totally trusts her.

01:46:43.120 She's a great person.

01:46:44.040 And so the people that, that will, will swarm around Washington, DC at this moment in time

01:46:53.560 are going to be people from Washington, DC.

01:46:56.720 I mean, I don't live in Washington, DC, so I'm not driving up there and hanging out at

01:47:00.860 the, at the meetings, you know, and going, okay, it's people from, you know, that swamp.

01:47:06.500 Yeah.

01:47:07.100 You know, they were 250,000 to 20,000 Kamala Harris votes in Washington, DC, 250,000 for

01:47:13.560 her, 20,000 for Trump.

01:47:15.080 Yeah.

01:47:15.380 I mean, that's, I mean, that's exactly.

01:47:17.320 I think it was whatever it was 93% or 95%.

01:47:20.240 That just speaks to the fact that the, that DC is entirely captured, you know, completely.

01:47:25.120 I mean, there's so many, but it's the great society programs.

01:47:27.340 I mean, going back to when the Democrats changed, it wasn't the Kennedy's that it was the Johnson

01:47:31.240 Great Society programs, right?

01:47:33.200 Pushing us probably more towards this socialist stagnant model.

01:47:36.380 And as you, you know, as, as you know, back in the eighties, they already started talking

01:47:39.520 about this controlled demolition of America.

01:47:41.340 Right.

01:47:41.760 Economically.

01:47:42.200 Right.

01:47:42.320 Basically, it's like, we're going to be a stagnant socialist.

01:47:43.980 And that's all real.

01:47:44.780 Those aren't conspiracy theories.

01:47:46.000 Those are things that are real.

01:47:47.020 So, you know, I think what, what we've learned and what I've seen certainly on, in, uh, yeah,

01:47:52.980 on the, in the world of the, of the social media and these great minds that we have out

01:47:58.580 there, you know, and you guys are included in that because I find like this level of

01:48:03.440 brilliance and these people that have really, you know, there's a lot of podcasters and

01:48:07.840 I love them all, you know, but there's, there are some because of their ability to communicate,

01:48:13.460 study, research, come, you know, be prepared and do all the things that you need to do to,

01:48:17.600 to, to be really successful.

01:48:19.320 And we have a bunch of them.

01:48:20.980 Those are the type of people.

01:48:22.320 And there's other business leaders.

01:48:24.660 I mean, I, I, I don't know them.

01:48:26.500 I've never met them.

01:48:27.060 I've seen them and I've responded to them on the, on, uh, on X at times, this Bill Ackman

01:48:32.240 as an example, right?

01:48:33.880 Uh, uh, uh, Cardone is another guy.

01:48:36.580 I mean, Elon's another, uh, another one of these types of people that have risen up.

01:48:41.100 Vivek Ramaswamy, I mean, another guy that has risen up others.

01:48:44.660 There's other leaders in our midst, right?

01:48:48.400 And what I want people to do, and this gets to the part of your question, Tim, about me,

01:48:53.540 you know, what I want to see is I want to see more leaders that are not from the political

01:49:00.280 establishment.

01:49:01.060 And I don't, you know, if there's some great military, former military leaders, great.

01:49:06.060 If there's business leaders, which I know there are, that are running great organizations

01:49:11.960 and they know they're like, they're, they're Trump-like in, in their, their abilities,

01:49:16.820 maybe not in their, in their mindset and, and, and sort of his, how he operates, but there

01:49:23.220 are great leaders.

01:49:24.300 And that's what I want to see come into the government.

01:49:28.100 And, and I would love to see, and I know, you know, the, like, like places like the secretary

01:49:32.420 of the treasury, secretary of commerce, you know, those are going to be huge picks for

01:49:37.460 Trump and they, they should come from a place of leadership as well as intellect in that,

01:49:43.860 in those, in those sort of worlds, right?

01:49:45.840 Commerce and, uh, and treasury same, same with the, with all these other really, you know,

01:49:51.080 the critical, uh, departments, some of the departments need to be gotten, you know, need

01:49:54.880 to be completely eliminated, but, but that's what I want to see.

01:49:58.980 You know, and I think that I know that Trump has these relationships now is it's a matter

01:50:04.400 of somebody saying, I'm going to put my life aside because this is what you have to do.

01:50:09.660 Okay.

01:50:10.200 And this is a tough thing because people go, I don't know.

01:50:13.740 I, I got two examples of two very, very successful people who both of them wanted these,

01:50:20.860 wanted two really prominent jobs, you know, in the previous administration.

01:50:26.160 And when it came down to the nut cutting time, they backed away because their egos got in

01:50:32.420 the way of the mission.

01:50:34.320 I, I, but I think it's a, for most people, it's sacrificing for something beyond them.

01:50:38.820 And that's, it's difficult for most people.

01:50:40.600 Bobby Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy, he, he, um, if there's a, if there is a, a, an example of

01:50:48.680 a modern day founding father putting country before self, it's Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

01:50:55.220 That man, he could have stayed in there and said, screw it, I'm going to fight.

01:50:58.920 I mean, I, I, and I, I watched him very closely as he was, you know, coming in and, and doing

01:51:04.980 the things and I'm, I'm studying them.

01:51:06.780 And I, you know, I was always a big fan of the, of, of a big, you know, the, the whole

01:51:11.080 Kennedy experience, right?

01:51:13.000 I mean, that got, uh, different issues, but, um, but when I saw him coming in, I'm like

01:51:19.660 thinking, okay, this is, this is an interest in dynamic and he's going after a big issue,

01:51:25.240 which is a huge issue for all Americans.

01:51:27.440 And then all of a sudden, and he, cause he sat there and he, and he stood there in a couple

01:51:30.980 of stages and said, I'm not going to give up.

01:51:32.860 I'm not going to give up.

01:51:33.600 And then he realized, I think it's like, whatever, like the old light switch comes on and he

01:51:39.100 realized that, that this party that he used to be part of, that he had to jump away from

01:51:43.920 and go independent.

01:51:45.500 He realized these people are evil.

01:51:48.460 This is evil.

01:51:49.620 Yeah.

01:51:50.040 You know, I mean, talk about spiritual warfare, but these are, this is not the old Democrat

01:51:54.420 party.

01:51:54.860 This is evil.

01:51:55.860 And he finally, whatever that moment was, he said, I can't, I can't allow this.

01:52:03.600 Country to go, you know, this way.

01:52:05.620 Cause I, cause personally, I don't think if Bobby Kennedy came over to, uh, to the Trump

01:52:10.440 camp that the, cause the, the independent numbers that I've seen are pretty high for

01:52:14.860 Trump.

01:52:15.260 He got a lot of independence and I, I kind of, you know, maybe that's the Kennedy effect.

01:52:19.780 There'll be an analysis of that.

01:52:21.000 I'm sure for a long time, but that's a, he is an example, whatever people want to think

01:52:26.080 about Bobby Kennedy, uh, whatever his background is, you know, he rose to the occasion, like

01:52:31.640 our founders rose to the occasion and he put country before self because he'd have been

01:52:36.400 destroyed like everybody else had the results been different.

01:52:40.520 What do you think about Tulsi Gabbard?

01:52:42.840 I know her.

01:52:43.760 Yeah.

01:52:43.940 I know her.

01:52:44.360 I met her.

01:52:44.660 I like her.

01:52:45.220 I think that she's, uh, got, you know, extraordinary talent.

01:52:48.720 She's super smart.

01:52:49.660 Um, I'd like her, you know, for the fact that she, uh, served in the military or, you

01:52:54.540 know, and, and just has sort of done it very, very, uh, uh, with dignity and, and honorably.

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01:53:59.360 Hey moms, looking for some lighthearted guidance on this crazy journey we call parenting?

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01:54:06.900 And me, Andy Mitchell, for Pop Culture Moms.

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01:54:32.980 You know, I don't know, you know, I mean, I can see, I can see Trump, you know, because

01:54:40.720 all this business about women, right?

01:54:42.660 And it's not to put a woman in charge of it because she's a woman.

01:54:46.260 And I'm now talking about the Department of Defense, you know, I think that because we

01:54:52.000 haven't had a female as the Secretary of Defense, right, appointed.

01:54:56.900 We've had acting at times.

01:54:58.260 But so I, you know, I don't know if that's the way Trump is heading.

01:55:04.700 But I, because you can always, you know, you know, her experiences with big organizations

01:55:09.360 and, and, uh, is, is not, is not there.

01:55:12.540 And I, you know, and, and, and I would say that, and I would let her know that, but you

01:55:17.180 can put people around, good people around that leader because she's got, I think, extraordinary

01:55:23.780 leadership skills.

01:55:24.960 She's a type of person that, you know, like I say, uh, um, leadership, you know, you don't

01:55:30.980 have to be an old, you know, general and, and, you know, you're a leader.

01:55:35.140 You can be a great leader, you know, at a, at a very young age, maturity has nothing to

01:55:39.720 do with age and neither does leadership skills and qualities.

01:55:42.980 And she's got those kinds of skills and qualities.

01:55:45.400 I don't know if that's, if, if Trump is going in that direction, but I actually would find

01:55:49.280 that, you know, I, I, you know, if that's his decision on something like that, I'd actually,

01:55:54.180 I would say, yep, good decision.

01:55:56.140 Now build the team around her because there is extraordinary levels of reform that need to

01:56:01.340 happen in our military.

01:56:02.260 Let me ask you just some, uh, I guess more simpler questions, I suppose.

01:56:06.100 Uh, the first one just for context is how, how long did you serve for?

01:56:09.540 I served for, uh, about 33 and a half years.

01:56:13.160 I'm just curious, reaching the rank that you did, was it very political?

01:56:17.380 Are you navigating these, you know, the opinions of people who may be wrong to try and earn points

01:56:22.680 or how does that work?

01:56:23.380 Yeah.

01:56:23.740 Yeah.

01:56:23.980 Like you're, you're asking like how many asses do you need to kiss?

01:56:26.760 Yes, exactly.

01:56:28.220 How, how much freedom do you have to have your own opinion really?

01:56:31.160 Because I understand that like, I was trying to be more academic.

01:56:33.380 Well, no, don't be academic.

01:56:35.460 You know, your audience is like, oh, what the hell, you know?

01:56:38.040 So, cause you're just, you know, not that way.

01:56:40.020 I mean, you're, did you have to kiss ass?

01:56:42.420 Now, now, do you, do you, you know, do people do that?

01:56:45.100 You damn right they do.

01:56:46.600 Uh, but one of the things that we always say, especially as I got more senior, be careful

01:56:50.280 of promoting people in your own likeness.

01:56:52.340 Okay.

01:56:53.300 Because if you promote somebody in your own likeness, you're probably not going to get

01:56:55.980 the best people.

01:56:57.360 Um, so, I mean, for a person like me, I served in the field.

01:57:03.060 So I didn't get into Washington, DC.

01:57:05.400 And as an intelligence officer that rose to the level that I rose to, you know, I didn't

01:57:09.720 go to Washington, DC until I was a major general, a two star.

01:57:12.860 So I, so I served in operational assignments, you know, a lot and, you know, served at, I

01:57:18.720 can't call it Fort Liberty, it's called Fort Bragg.

01:57:21.420 I served at Fort Bragg, North Carolina in the airborne and the special operations for

01:57:26.260 17 years.

01:57:27.400 Actually, I served there from the rank of second lieutenant to the rank of brigadier general.

01:57:31.260 Just, just real quick, should Trump, or I don't know if Trump, but, but should we rename

01:57:35.980 them back?

01:57:36.740 Of course.

01:57:37.920 And this is insane.

01:57:38.780 This is back to the, this, you know, this, what Sean has been talking about.

01:57:41.740 The statues, right?

01:57:42.240 It's insane.

01:57:43.140 I mean, come on, you know?

01:57:45.320 So, um, I mean, I don't get me going on that right now because I'll, I mean, I'll give

01:57:51.740 you the stupid example of a, of a Alexandria, Virginia, where George Washington used to go

01:57:56.800 to church every Sunday.

01:57:57.840 They removed the fricking plaque because he owned slaves because the people in Alexandria,

01:58:03.340 Virginia, we can't tolerate this.

01:58:05.000 No, we cannot tolerate this, but, but back to, back to what we're talking about, um, about

01:58:10.900 promotions and stuff like that, you know, and, and people can go look at my, at my career

01:58:16.280 path and, and my career profile and the types of assignments that I had.

01:58:21.040 And I never wavered from taking hard assignments.

01:58:24.460 And what I, I joke sometimes, and I say, look, you don't have like, you know, fairy dust dropped

01:58:30.700 on you and poof, you're a three-star general.

01:58:32.920 Okay.

01:58:33.640 And, you know, when I look at when, again, people can go examine, it's all public.

01:58:38.680 It's very public.

01:58:39.560 I was the most Googled name on the planet for two years.

01:58:43.060 Okay.

01:58:43.580 The most Googled name on the planet for two years.

01:58:45.840 And when you Googled my name, they would, they, the algorithms would take you to traitor,

01:58:50.300 committed treason, Putin spy, Russian spy, two years, Tim.

01:58:55.060 So they made, they made me out to be a demon.

01:58:57.820 That's why I got all these people out there telling, you know, saying I'm doing all this

01:59:00.920 bullshit.

01:59:01.300 Right.

01:59:02.100 So, and I, I actually, you know, to a degree now I thrive on it and maybe it's the Irish

01:59:07.040 cynic in me, but, um, but, you know, so do people get to those levels and does it become

01:59:13.500 very political?

01:59:14.240 It damn, it sure does.

01:59:15.860 But what you have to do is if you want to maintain your integrity and, and who you are,

01:59:21.220 you know, at a certain point in time.

01:59:22.680 And that's why I was, I was sort of rifled out of there because I stood there or sat there

01:59:27.100 in front of a, a very key congressional testimony and asked my, my judgment on what was going

01:59:32.440 on globally against this enemy that we were facing.

01:59:35.240 And I told the truth and I was immediately, you're gone.

01:59:38.580 What do you think about Millie?

01:59:39.780 I think Millie made huge mistakes in the, in the way he acted at the tail end of his

01:59:44.940 career.

01:59:45.160 And, and they, the, the thing that he said about calling China, calling his counterpart,

01:59:51.320 I would call my counterpart in China.

01:59:53.580 That sounds like straight up treason.

01:59:56.160 I mean, I just, I look at something like that.

01:59:58.280 He did that, didn't he?

01:59:58.400 I mean, he would call his counterpart, I mean, outside of your mind.

02:00:03.460 So, don't I, cause I like, I, you know, I, I, I like Mark Millie.

02:00:07.400 I got to know Mark Millie.

02:00:08.940 And so, but I, as I, as I witnessed him, you know, in the latter part of his career,

02:00:15.080 I'm thinking to myself, what the hell, who is, who is telling him to, to say the things

02:00:21.140 that he is saying?

02:00:22.240 White rage, you know, the nonsense about white rage.

02:00:25.220 And I'm thinking to myself, but just shut up that this is not your role.

02:00:30.180 You're the principal by, by law.

02:00:33.160 You're the principal military advisor to the commander in chief, which is the president

02:00:37.040 of the United States.

02:00:38.080 You know, all this other political bullshit that you're talking about, get out of there.

02:00:42.660 Get away.

02:00:43.400 Do, just say, look, um, you know, this, here's what I believe.

02:00:47.300 I, I'm going to, I advise the president.

02:00:49.340 This is, you know, if he wants to say what he advised the president on, which he should not,

02:00:52.800 you know, if the president wants to say what, what advice I got from, from my, my, my chairman

02:00:57.800 of the joint chiefs of staff, that's, but that's his right.

02:01:01.100 But that's what Millie ought to do.

02:01:02.640 And that's what he should have done.

02:01:03.740 He should have said, this is what I advised, or this is what, you know, here's, here's what

02:01:08.580 I, I believed, especially after he got out while he was in uniform.

02:01:12.760 You know, it's kind of like, how dare you say, you know, what you're telling the president

02:01:17.960 of the United States or what you're doing around his back and, and J six.

02:01:23.900 Okay.

02:01:24.340 Cause I believe J six was a total setup and we still have people in, in, uh, prison that

02:01:29.280 have yet to see a judge or charge or not been charged.

02:01:34.340 I mean, so three years, no charges.

02:01:36.000 I mean, there's, where's the speedy trial, right?

02:01:38.160 So where's the due, due process.

02:01:40.440 Um, so, you know, all of the J six madness, and then these conversations that were had

02:01:46.900 between Millie and, and the speaker of the house, I mean, Pelosi, I mean, I'm kind of

02:01:50.900 like, why are you talking to her?

02:01:53.400 Why are you having these conversations?

02:01:55.720 You're now, you know, if you're, I mean, how much can I swear on this?

02:01:59.300 Cause I, I mean, we usually don't swear, but you know, we're not, well, I mean my, you

02:02:02.660 know, how dare you go outside?

02:02:06.240 You're the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff.

02:02:08.400 And one of the things that we, that is sacrosanct in the military is something called the chain

02:02:12.880 of command.

02:02:13.900 And when you violate the chain of command and you go outside of it, right, you better

02:02:18.700 do it for purposes that, that matter in, in a serious, serious way that, that your boss

02:02:24.840 can't be aware of, or your boss is doing something.

02:02:28.180 And did you really believe that, that Trump was going to, he's committing an insurrection.

02:02:32.580 I mean, cause this is no way this is all, no, this is, this all happened.

02:02:36.240 Prior.

02:02:36.740 So, and I, I mean, we can go into rhyme and verse if you want.

02:02:38.900 Well, Millie did, Millie did, Millie did acknowledge that Trump had wanted to, the, the, uh, capital

02:02:44.240 to be secure, right?

02:02:45.280 Exactly.

02:02:45.440 And he acknowledged exactly what Kash Patel and many others have been saying, which is

02:02:48.480 that they had authorized for the use of the national guard or any kind of military presence

02:02:52.820 that they needed.

02:02:53.820 Right.

02:02:54.140 Pelosi refused and Bowser refused.

02:02:55.980 Right.

02:02:56.140 So, and that gets into, our series does get into that.

02:02:58.860 Ultimately, we go through these stories.

02:03:00.200 I think that, I think when people see this series, Sean, they're going to be blown away.

02:03:05.100 And I, and I'm, I think for the series, it, the fact that Trump won, it's going to make

02:03:11.800 it more powerful because you're going to hear things that, that, you know, I know what I,

02:03:17.360 what I talked about and I know some of the other guys that you spoke with, they're going

02:03:22.080 to talk about things that we can now do.

02:03:24.720 Right.

02:03:25.700 Exactly.

02:03:26.420 Exactly.

02:03:26.620 So, because if, because if we didn't win, everybody would see this thing and go, Jesus,

02:03:31.680 man, we're in trouble.

02:03:32.740 Yeah.

02:03:33.080 I saw, I think it was Mike Cernovich.

02:03:35.320 Trump could declassify all of the J6 files on day one.

02:03:39.620 Every single, the president of the United States owns, is the classification authority

02:03:45.500 for the United States of America.

02:03:47.520 So, you know, let me say that again.

02:03:49.520 The president of the United States is the classification authority for the United States

02:03:54.320 of America.

02:03:55.480 He can decide what is classified and what is not classified.

02:03:58.620 All this crap about this CIA and this bullshit.

02:04:02.480 The president of the United States is the classification authority for the entirety of the United States

02:04:07.100 of America.

02:04:08.060 And that includes anything that any contractor touches.

02:04:11.400 Okay.

02:04:11.960 He, the, that's the authority given to, given to the president by the judgment of the American

02:04:16.700 people as a duly elected president, according to our constitution, that's reality.

02:04:22.020 That's the fact.

02:04:23.400 So all this stuff, like the JFK files, dump them.

02:04:27.680 I want to, I mean, you know, it's like the, it's like when, when, uh, when, um, the hell

02:04:33.760 was the guy, I just lost my train of thought on the, on the WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, dump

02:04:38.800 it all out there.

02:04:39.720 Yeah.

02:04:39.880 Let the, you know, as a journalist, boom, jump it all out there and let's see, let's

02:04:43.080 see what we got.

02:04:43.460 I want to see all the files pertaining to the investigations on J6ers when they're traveling

02:04:47.940 across the country, when they raided, that was a woman in Alaska.

02:04:50.540 I think they got a wrong, a case of mistaken identity, raided her home and went, oops, wrong

02:04:55.000 person.

02:04:55.640 I want to, I want to see the communications as to how, how that happens and why anyone

02:04:59.920 cared.

02:05:01.160 What, what, what was, what are they saying behind the scenes where they're like, we

02:05:03.980 really need to fly halfway around the world, go to Alaska and raid some woman's home.

02:05:07.260 Yeah.

02:05:07.760 So that, you know, I think what we're going to see, and there's so much, so much stuff.

02:05:12.580 And if I, and so my warning out to people right now, and, and, and Trump kind of did

02:05:17.520 this a couple of months back with a cease and desist thing, like about cheating in the

02:05:21.080 elections.

02:05:21.380 Don't cheat.

02:05:22.180 If you get caught and I win, you know, Katie barred the door, anybody in the United States

02:05:26.900 government right now.

02:05:27.960 So anybody in the United States government right now that is taking their little government

02:05:32.600 issued phones or taking their computers and anybody that's in a leadership position that

02:05:38.080 is starting to delete shit and saying, and trying to tell me, cause I will come after

02:05:42.460 you, trying to tell me that you're, that you're trying, you know, because we're transitioning

02:05:47.260 the government, we're going to transition our, our computers.

02:05:49.900 We're going to go to a new system.

02:05:51.140 That is total bullshit.

02:05:53.020 It's just like you get a public record.

02:05:55.340 Exactly.

02:05:55.880 You're, it's just like you get an order from a, from a judge that says, you know, I've

02:05:59.660 had plenty of them, you know, you protect everything.

02:06:01.980 Don't, you know, every text message, every email, protect it all.

02:06:05.140 Isn't that what RFK Jr. said?

02:06:06.500 Trump should tweet this right now.

02:06:08.060 He should.

02:06:08.720 Every, every federal worker, preserve your records.

02:06:11.280 RFK Jr.

02:06:11.920 Was saying this.

02:06:12.740 Yeah, exactly.

02:06:13.780 Pack your bags and preserve your records.

02:06:15.900 Don't delete them.

02:06:16.260 Exactly.

02:06:16.840 Exactly.

02:06:17.740 And so that, that message needs to go out on every single mass of these big, big podcasters,

02:06:25.380 these big influencers, as you are, you guys are, this needs, needs to go out because

02:06:30.560 I know, I know that there are good people in the U.S. government.

02:06:33.640 I know, I know this.

02:06:35.880 And they're waiting, they're waiting for President Trump to get back in charge.

02:06:41.520 And this time to have a group of people that, you know, are trustworthy, you know, believe

02:06:47.400 in the constitution and actually want to move the country in a very positive direction.

02:06:51.640 Not the direction that we were heading because we were heading, we weren't at the edge.

02:06:55.380 We weren't like, you know, like at the edge, right?

02:06:58.100 I don't know if people can see that.

02:06:59.240 We were in the abyss.

02:07:00.580 We were in the abyss.

02:07:01.800 You know, it's like Donald Trump, like Spider-Man.

02:07:05.260 I mean, the team, I think the team is the key.

02:07:09.020 It is.

02:07:09.460 Right.

02:07:09.640 I mean, again, that's why you mentioned the docuseries.

02:07:12.360 It's so great that it's coming out with him winning because it doesn't mean that it's

02:07:15.820 irrelevant.

02:07:16.440 You have to know the history so that we don't repeat it.

02:07:18.980 Well, so, so we only have a few minutes left, but where can people find the series?

02:07:22.980 What's, what's going on?

02:07:23.680 Yeah, it's coming, it's out today on Tucker Carlson's network.

02:07:26.920 So six parts interview with General Flynn, with Tucker Carlson, with Rudy Giuliani, Cash

02:07:32.360 Patel, Carter Page, Steve Bannon, George and Simona Papadopoulos, Roger Stone.

02:07:39.020 And they're fascinating stories again, because each one will take you deeper into this web.

02:07:42.880 As you'll see, this whole Russian collusion narrative was really a conspiracy by the deep

02:07:47.420 state.

02:07:47.960 There's no Russians in the story.

02:07:49.260 They're all people that just had a certain level of, hey, we should get along with the

02:07:52.500 Russians.

02:07:52.880 Ah, you must be a Russian spy.

02:07:54.480 You're a Russian stooge.

02:07:55.460 We're going to investigate you.

02:07:56.420 The FBI fabricated evidence against Carter Page.

02:07:59.000 Is that what happened?

02:07:59.780 The FBI fabricated evidence against me?

02:08:02.140 Against everybody.

02:08:03.140 Against everyone.

02:08:03.760 The Carter Page thing was the FISA that they got.

02:08:06.180 He was using the Steele dossier as the basis.

02:08:07.980 And the Steele dossier was just made up.

02:08:09.780 But they omitted that he was an informant.

02:08:11.480 Is that...

02:08:12.200 They omitted so much.

02:08:13.620 Actually, one of the guys actually changed.

02:08:15.860 I think he either changed the word or he eliminated the word.

02:08:18.580 So a word in the...

02:08:20.200 In his testimony.

02:08:21.400 Kevin Kline's methodology, right?

02:08:22.160 Yes, yes.

02:08:22.740 Where it basically changed the meaning of the evidence, right?

02:08:27.580 To, you know...

02:08:28.400 I mean, the culture inside the FBI, like the culture inside of many organizations in the

02:08:34.640 government.

02:08:34.900 And you're going to hear this in this series from every one of us.

02:08:37.340 There's going to be a consistency that's going to come out in all the different people

02:08:41.720 that Sean just mentioned.

02:08:42.760 And there is a deep rot in our government.

02:08:47.480 And that rot, like a cancer, like a metastasized cancer, needs to be removed, excised.

02:08:54.240 And Elon's going to be part of it.

02:08:56.460 Bobby Kennedy's going to be part of it.

02:08:58.040 Trump is going to have to, you know, put his sort of premature on it.

02:09:01.320 He's going to have to stamp this thing.

02:09:03.220 And there's going to be other people that I know that want to get in there to help.

02:09:07.540 I love the...

02:09:07.960 And I'm looking forward to it.

02:09:08.860 So Matt Walsh made a joke on X.

02:09:12.180 He said, now that Trump has won, can we admit that the plan was Project 2025 the whole time?

02:09:17.160 And he's trolling.

02:09:18.580 Steve Bannon, then on his show, saw that and laughed and said, yeah, let's send that one

02:09:22.180 out to everybody.

02:09:23.640 And the media...

02:09:25.460 These news organizations, these media outlets on the left, I cannot imagine they genuinely

02:09:30.540 believe this.

02:09:31.620 Seamus Coghlein made a really great point.

02:09:32.820 Matt Walsh is a guy who has built up this massive notoriety from two interviews where

02:09:38.880 he mocked the left and liberals, one where he disguised himself as a liberal and tricked

02:09:44.680 these people.

02:09:45.860 His profile picture is him dressed as some liberal, some lefty hipster.

02:09:51.520 And they still take the bait.

02:09:54.240 And my attitude is they know it's not true.

02:09:58.960 And not just to focus on this one thing about 2025, but any opportunity they can to pull

02:10:04.700 something out of context, to scare people who don't pay attention is what they do to

02:10:08.660 try and steal and maintain power.

02:10:10.200 Right.

02:10:10.380 It's called projection.

02:10:11.620 And they will project their ideas onto you and they will try to make you believe it,

02:10:17.440 believe things that you just should, you would otherwise not believe.

02:10:21.120 So, yeah.

02:10:22.280 But I do think people are starting to wake up because one of the stories we covered last

02:10:26.040 night is that this guy, David Pakman, who's a liberal commentator, made this emergency

02:10:30.680 video where he said, we're bleeding paid subscribers.

02:10:34.000 We've lost 5,000 subscribers on YouTube.

02:10:36.360 Please stop unsubscribing.

02:10:37.980 He's like, I called some of these other big prominent liberals and they're losing

02:10:40.540 subscribers like crazy.

02:10:42.360 And it says to me, one, I think there's a component of a lot of it.

02:10:45.820 It's fake, you know, bot accounts meant to prop up these individuals who are pushing

02:10:49.480 misinformation.

02:10:49.860 But I do believe a big component is after this election, people realized, hey, those

02:10:55.140 people were lying to me the whole time.

02:10:57.040 They had me convinced that Kamala, this is funny, Kyle Kalinske, he actually projected

02:11:02.660 that Kamala would win Iowa and Florida.

02:11:05.580 He said it was his bearish projection was that she wins all swing states, Iowa and Florida.

02:11:10.200 But he thinks it's more likely she just wins all of the swing states.

02:11:13.040 But worst case scenario, she wins 276.

02:11:14.820 And every one of his projections were completely wrong.

02:11:18.160 So when I hear that these liberals are losing tons of subscribers, it sounds to me that

02:11:22.100 regular people are starting to wake up more and more realizing they've been lied to the

02:11:25.760 whole time.

02:11:26.500 Well, I think there's a mixture of things going on.

02:11:29.040 One, I love that the conspiracy theorists are coming out saying, well, where are those

02:11:32.740 millions of voters?

02:11:33.660 Where did they go?

02:11:34.300 And you go, ha, ha, ha.

02:11:35.380 Now you realize what happened in 2020 was the anomaly, not 2024, right?

02:11:40.120 But this is where we have to revisit 2020, which is again in the series.

02:11:42.940 I mean, I want people to know that we're winning.

02:11:44.860 We are winning and we're winning because we're not giving up.

02:11:48.380 And that's the DNA of every single American is this idea that we will not give up our freedom.

02:11:56.320 It's just built into us and we're not going to give up and we're winning.

02:11:59.600 And this was another example of it.

02:12:01.820 We've got only a couple minutes left, so I think maybe we'll just do some final thoughts

02:12:05.240 and some wrap up.

02:12:06.320 So Sean, do you want to just give your final thoughts and then shout out the show and where

02:12:09.760 people can find you?

02:12:10.800 Yeah, I mean, final thoughts.

02:12:12.620 I think, you know, again, to what you just said, we instinctively as Americans, we have

02:12:18.220 freedom as our base.

02:12:19.820 You know, that's like, that's our compass, right?

02:12:21.500 That's our true north.

02:12:22.460 And I think that's why the New World Order agenda that we've been discussing and the global

02:12:25.580 agenda has had such a hard time with America.

02:12:28.140 It's like, it's not just about, you know, taking away your right to free speech, your

02:12:31.540 you know, taking away your guns, you know, shifting your government to become more, you

02:12:35.660 know, under the umbrella of the federal government and then under the, you know, under global

02:12:39.780 governance ultimately, right?

02:12:41.960 That's the agenda.

02:12:43.000 It's having a hard time with us because we, as Americans, we just believe in freedom and

02:12:47.280 it's like, it's in our DNA.

02:12:48.860 And so I really feel that we are, there's a shift that's taken place.

02:12:51.720 2020 in many ways was that awakening that people have talked about and everything that

02:12:56.160 we're seeing now is the consequence of it.

02:12:57.600 And it's like, we're not going back.

02:12:58.800 I think that's the real thing is that Kamala's point was, yeah, we aren't going back, but

02:13:02.420 we're not going back to your, your globalist agenda.

02:13:04.740 We're going, we're not going back to that.

02:13:06.600 We're going forward towards a freer future, you know, return to our Republic, restoration

02:13:10.740 of the Republic, everything that I think Trump and the team that he's brought together can

02:13:14.680 potentially lead us to, but we, each one of us has to do our part in it.

02:13:19.180 You know, we can't trust that, you know, Trump's going to solve it.

02:13:21.740 No, we have to, each one of us do what we're doing, keep informing people, keep working

02:13:25.460 at it, keep reforming the system, keep calling out the bullshit, you know, as you said, make

02:13:30.020 hold people accountable.

02:13:31.080 That's the only way we're going to win.

02:13:32.940 So where, where can people find the show once, once more?

02:13:35.420 Yeah.

02:13:35.640 So Tucker Carlson network, um, his, his, uh, his network has it right now.

02:13:39.620 It's all six parts should be up today.

02:13:41.580 And, uh, it's, you know, it's online.

02:13:43.460 He has it.

02:13:43.860 I think he has like Roku and other places.

02:13:45.460 You can download his app and, uh, and watch it there.

02:13:48.200 Right on.

02:13:48.460 Thanks for hanging out.

02:13:49.220 And General Flynn, final thoughts and where can people find you?

02:13:51.900 Yeah.

02:13:52.260 Um, they can go to general Flynn.com and, uh, you know, like I said, I've written seven

02:13:56.820 books.

02:13:57.200 We had a great, uh, number one movie film documentary called Flynn.

02:14:01.340 You can find that there.

02:14:02.300 And I appreciate everybody that has watched it.

02:14:05.060 Um, I think my final thoughts really for America and for Trump, uh, because he's going to

02:14:11.260 lead this country in an extraordinary time is I think a lot of people out there still

02:14:17.460 feel like, wow.

02:14:19.240 And they're still reeling.

02:14:20.760 I do believe that this is a spiritual, there is a massive, massive spiritual war going on

02:14:26.500 good versus evil.

02:14:28.280 And if you feel like you can't do anything else, you can always sit and pray.

02:14:32.140 I mean, you know, so prayer is a huge, I call it the most powerful weapon system known

02:14:36.920 to man.

02:14:37.300 And I mean that, and I've not wanted to wear my, my faith on my sleeve, uh, throughout

02:14:42.980 my life.

02:14:43.560 But lately, uh, I have found that, uh, that prayer actually does matter.

02:14:49.180 And, and I do believe that, uh, for our country going forward, based on who we are as a, as

02:14:55.820 a, as a citizenry, as a people that, uh, that prayer still matters a lot.

02:15:00.660 And I think a lot of people believe that and I'm glad.

02:15:03.560 Right on.

02:15:03.920 Well, it's been an honor and a privilege, uh, privilege.

02:15:05.760 So I really appreciate you hanging out.

02:15:07.080 Phil, do you want to shout anything out before we go?

02:15:08.820 Uh, you can find me on Twix at, uh, Phil that remains.

02:15:11.980 I'm Phil that remains on Instagram.

02:15:13.660 So right on.

02:15:14.880 Well, everybody else, thank you so much for hanging out.

02:15:16.880 It's been a blast, man.

02:15:18.200 You learn a lot.

02:15:19.080 And I would say some of the conversation is scary, but we should be leaving hopeful because

02:15:23.560 although there is great, uh, there's a great challenge before us, I think we're still

02:15:26.400 winning.

02:15:26.600 So we will be back tonight at 8 p.m.

02:15:29.180 Eastern time over at youtube.com slash TimCast IRL.

02:15:32.300 Smash the like button, share the show with everyone.

02:15:34.200 You know, you can follow me on X and Instagram at TimCast.

02:15:37.340 Thanks for hanging out and we'll see you all tonight.

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The Culture War - Tim Pool - November 08, 2024

Trump 2.0： Trump's Revenge is Coming w⧸General Flynn & Sean Stone

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