We're back for another installation of Across the Pond! This time, we're joined by a guest from across the pond to talk about immigration, racism, and the dangers of mass migration. Plus, we have a new segment called Across The Pond, in which we talk about all things across-the- pond.
00:00:00.000I'm now the inverse. I'm very keen on Donald Trump to basically make Keir Starmer look like a total invalid, an NPC, someone who has no charisma, no legitimacy, and just to mug him relentlessly.
00:00:11.560The number one reason people would cite when applying for asylum was something along the lines of, my country's economy sucks.
00:00:18.580It's like, okay, let's, not a human right, the fact that your country's like broke and you're poor and like your whole country sucks, not a reason to apply for asylum.
00:00:25.560If anything, there's a reason to turn you away because if you're anything like your country, man, you're going to tank our country.
00:00:32.060What is up, guys? This is Tate Brown here holding it down. We are back for another installation of Across the Pond.
00:00:38.160It is the weekend special here. It is, it's really something. We've gotten some great feedback from you guys.
00:00:43.580We're super thankful. Like you guys have been giving us a lot of, a lot of love and supporting the show.
00:00:48.060So it's been really cool. So we're slowly, slowly working things up. Connor, how's it going, man?
00:00:52.120Excellent. I'm glad that your mother has so many alt accounts so that she can basically manufacture consent for Tim to give us a show.
00:00:58.620I also really like that you either look like you're occupying Patrick Bateman's office or you look like you've been called into the boss's office in a Silicon Valley tech firm to be told you're being replaced by H1B Indian.
00:01:09.640It's true. It's, it's taking me back to my times in corporate America, getting yanked into the HR office because my joke was so funny that HR wanted to hear it in person.
00:01:20.480So, uh, yeah, that's, there's something with the, I think it's the blinds, I think really amplify the sort of wage cage aesthetic, which is what I'm going for.
00:01:28.900Cause that's where I truly feel most at home. I love nothing more than like a Keurig cup of coffee, heading to the water cooler, you know, debating on whether or not your coworker's pregnant with, with the other coworkers.
00:01:41.480Like there's really something about that. Like really looking forward to doing like a Chili's lunch. I miss it, man. I miss it very much.
00:01:49.240Mr. Incredible hunched over in his cubicle being waiting to be told off by his dwarf boss. Yeah.
00:01:54.400Literally me, me trying to post racist statistics on Twitter without alerting the local HR manager.
00:02:01.580Oh, it's really horrific, horrific times, but look, it's all right. We're here.
00:02:05.700And I now have a new job, which is to give you racist statistics on YouTube.
00:02:09.800So it's really exciting stuff. We got a big story. We got a huge story.
00:02:13.940Actually. We were like, once we saw this dropped, we were like, well, this is going to take up the majority of the show.
00:02:18.980The state department has issued a warning.
00:02:22.720They're saying mass migration is a threat against the United States and its allies.
00:02:27.220Duh, but it's crazy hearing that from the state department.
00:02:29.900So I'm just going to jump right in. I'm going to read the tweet here from the state department.
00:02:35.380Sorry, the post from the state department.
00:02:37.660Mass migration poses a existential threat to Western civilization and undermines the stability of key American allies.
00:02:46.580Today, the state department instructed U S embassies to report on the human rights implication implications and public safety impacts of mass migration.
00:02:54.880Mass migration is a human rights concern.
00:02:57.460Western nations have endured crime waves, terror attacks, sexual assaults, and the displacement of communities.
00:03:03.320U S officials will urge governments to take bold action and defend citizens against the threats posed by mass migration.
00:03:11.680Officials will also report policies that punish citizens who object to continued mass migration and document crimes and human rights abuses committed by people of a migration background.
00:03:21.220These issues have plagued citizens of Western nations for years and the United Kingdom.
00:03:26.740Thousands of girls have been victimized in Rotherham, Oxford, and Newcastle by grooming gangs involving migrant men.
00:03:33.520Many girls were left to suffer unspeakable abuse for years before authority stepped in.
00:03:37.420In Sweden, an Eritrean migrant convicted of R-wording, a 16-year-old girl was allowed to remain in the country after a judge ruled that the incident was not a, quote, exceptionally serious crime and did not warrant deportation.
00:03:51.720And they give you one more example here.
00:03:52.940In Germany, nine men, several of whom were migrants, were convicted for the gang grape of a 15-year-old girl.
00:04:00.380A German woman who insulted one of the grapevests online was given a harsher sentence than the perpetrators themselves.
00:04:07.560U S officials will now scrutinize policies in Western nations that give leniency to migrant crime and human rights abuses or that create two tiered systems that prioritize migrants at the expense of their own citizens.
00:04:16.980The United States, here's how they finish off here.
00:04:19.180The United States supports the sovereignty of our allies and calls on governments to constructively engage with the growing number of citizens concerned about mass migration.
00:04:27.600The United States stands ready to assist in our allies in solving the global crisis of mass migration.
00:04:34.600Is this a statement from the Department of State of the United States of America?
00:04:38.740Yeah, patriots and posters in control, it turns out.
00:04:40.940The most wild thing was in, I mean, there's a lot to break down here, but is in the second tweet where it notes that migrant crimes, including terror attacks, assaults, and it lists among the equivalent immoral actions.
00:04:57.600To those violent crimes, the displacement of communities, white flight replacement migration is officially, according to U S state department policy, a human rights abuse akin to murder and sexual assault.
00:05:13.980That is, that is what we wanted to hear because we are being systematically pushed out of our historic homelands, our towns and cities.
00:05:19.780And until, you know, posters have been in control in the Trump administration, and look, there's plenty to chimp out about, they need to do better, etc.
00:05:26.880But until our guys entered the state department and were issuing edicts like this and actually changing what the ambassadors in our respective countries need to report and putting pressure on governments.
00:05:37.360Until that, the only thing that we heard from so-called conservatives from the states was, well, if you can't afford to move because we've imported a million Indians into your city, maybe you should just buy homes elsewhere.
00:05:47.600Or, in the UK, we had Peter Hitchens post the other day, as we discussed last week, well, if you're a young Briton, get out while you still can.
00:05:56.020Meanwhile, bring back terrorist Shamima Begum from a camp in the middle of Syria to repopulate Britain with ISIS brides.
00:06:03.380So, it's actually very encouraging that they've said, no, like, pressuring people out of their neighborhoods, the places that their ancestors built, and as J.D. Vance said, want to be laid to rest in the family plot one day.
00:06:17.680That is a human rights abuse, according to the definition of human rights they're using, which is an even more interesting one to go on.
00:06:23.660Because the Washington Post have a meltdown about this.
00:06:25.740They have been very upset that the U.S. State Department had the temerity to read your Declaration of Independence and Constitution and find among the penumbras that said rights are God-given and they are inalienable for the innocent human person.
00:06:40.820They are not universalist international legal fictions that allow North African sex offenders to break into a country and stay there at my expense.
00:06:49.860And so, they are infuriated that they dare evoke Christianity in this.
00:06:55.340And so, the understanding of this is that, rather than believing that we're all blank slates and so the criminal is actually the victim because some form of inequality caused them to commit a crime in your society and taking the side of the migrant criminal.
00:07:08.060Instead, it is taking the side of the innocent white European men, women, and children who have been pushed out of their communities and preyed upon by men who never needed to be in the country in the first place.
00:07:21.080Yeah, this is a massive vibe shift, obviously.
00:07:24.220I don't need to elaborate on how big of a reorientation this was, not just from the Biden State Department, but from, like, every State Department for the last 60 years, which have given a rubber stamp to mass migration.
00:07:36.840They've been participating in these U.N. panels where they sit there in a struggle session over the fact that, like, white people do seem to, for whatever reason, create some not terrible societies.
00:07:46.000I mean, there's something to be said about that.
00:07:48.000I also found the statement about the displacement of communities remarkable to see that included because, I mean, I was reading this.
00:08:00.220Something else that was interesting in here, we can drill down more on specifically why the displacement of communities is such a horrific thing to be occurring.
00:08:06.380I like that they're really weaponizing.
00:08:10.760I mean, human rights law has been weaponized against Westerners for a very long time, against Western countries.
00:08:16.600It's, again, it's been this kind of thing that is just used to browbeat, specifically the United States, on the international scene.
00:08:22.780I mean, here where they're using human rights, kind of what you're supposed to be using them for.
00:08:27.780I mean, they lead off this statement by saying this mass migration undermines the stability of key American allies.
00:08:37.620And so I'm relieved to see human rights will actually be really deployed in the way that it should be, which is, yeah, I kind of have the right to live somewhere that my ancestors invested in, sort of anticipating that it would be passed down to me.
00:08:50.920I do actually kind of have the right to that.
00:08:53.880You know, many in the sphere have disagreed with that consensus.
00:08:58.780And so it's very good to see the State Department drilling down on that.
00:09:01.720I mean, look, obviously the crime waves, terror attacks, sexual assaults, that alone gives them the justification to sort of reorient the State Department in this way.
00:09:11.640But whoever it was in the State Department, or probably a good majority of people in the State Department that insisted that displacement of communities is a human rights violation, is excellent.
00:09:22.860It illustrates that patriots are indeed in control.
00:09:25.820And, you know, not to kind of go off on this tangent, because full disclosure, we will be having John Doyle as a guest later on today.
00:09:31.780And I'm sure he's going to want to elaborate on this much more.
00:09:33.940But there is something to be said about we had a week of everybody dooming and blackpilling over the Trump administration.
00:09:39.300A lot of people chimping, et cetera, et cetera.
00:09:42.000And then the State Department comes out with something like this, where this is, this alone would be the most right-wing, just isolated from everything else, would be the most right-wing action a government has taken since, I don't know, maybe Nixon.
00:09:51.720I mean, this is really, this is really, really tremendous stuff.
00:09:55.120They go on to explain, again, this is the State Department addressing an international situation.
00:09:59.580They're addressing our, what is affecting our allies.
00:10:01.760I think that's also really remarkable.
00:10:03.520And they go in, they explain here, in the United Kingdom, obviously they're referring to these grooming gang scandals that have been occurring all across the UK.
00:10:11.640And I don't know about you guys, you know, it did seem like from the State side, people were kind of vaguely aware of what was going on, but it didn't really seem like it was causing, it wasn't dominating headlines over here.
00:10:23.060It was kind of one of those things that you had to be pretty politically active to be aware of.
00:10:27.560You know, Elon and others had amplified it, but for the most part, it was not something that was sort of, you know, being discussed at the kitchen table in the United States for, you know, this side or the other.
00:10:37.880The Department of State has now addressed this, and this was the first example they cited as a human rights violation that is destabilizing an ally.
00:10:46.300What does that say about sort of the Trump administration's view of Western countries?
00:10:51.440Because that was kind of the concern for the longest time is the liberal media will be like, oh, well, you know, he's trying to screw over our allies.
00:10:57.840He's America only, like he's an isolationist, this, that, and the other.
00:11:01.600This, to me, seems like he's a friend of other sort of patriots all across the West that are looking to save their countries as well.
00:11:08.740I mean, this seems like a really encouraging sign if you were a Brit or even a Swede or German, really just anyone of a Western background.
00:11:14.120Well, I'm increasingly seeing isolationists being used as a slur by people who are frustrated that President Trump and members of MAGA are not interested in hunting for the next George Washington in the foothills of Afghanistan or turning Ukraine into a vessel for gay race communism,
00:11:31.080and are instead actually interested in building relationships with friendly, allied nations, not just in the sort of liberal, pluralist, you know, you're for gay race communism,
00:11:41.760we're one big bloc imposing our views on dilapidated deserts in the Middle East, but instead, hey, we kind of like each other, we have a positive cultural exchange, we like actually visiting each other's countries.
00:11:54.060And so, this is why the US is getting closer with Japan, its actual greatest ally, and it's getting closer with the motherland, the UK, despite its treacherous government ruling over the beleaguered, patriotic British majority.
00:12:06.860They still see that they have a constituency there, thanks very much to the visual representation of the Unite the Kingdom rallies,
00:12:13.760where up to a million people turned out in a largely peaceful and patriotic demonstration that Elon Musk spoke at via video link,
00:12:20.580and lots of figures on the British right also addressed the crowds there.
00:12:23.280And they were demonised, black and blue, but it turns out that they are more numerous than the governments who have now had to erect massive fences around the Houses of Parliament for the first time,
00:12:36.700And so, what this says is, one, there is a poster to policy pipeline, because it's not just Elon Musk amplifying the awareness of the grooming gang scandal that's been going on for decades,
00:12:45.800and was deliberately covered up by politicians, social workers, police officers, some of whom were members of the gangs and the media,
00:12:52.440but, and I'll be careful what I say here, in some small way, I may have contributed to this because I've been reporting on this for some time,
00:13:00.920and I know that there are guys in the administration who follow my coverage of my country to know what's going on on my side of the pond.
00:13:08.500That's kind of one of the reasons for this show, so we can keep having that exchange to our respective audiences.
00:13:13.540And so, this has been brought to their attention in granular detail.
00:13:17.920They are aware that the UK government has been imprisoning people for complaining about mass migration,
00:13:24.120that there has been a two-tier justice system.
00:37:36.600I want to read some commentary here that Carl Hollywood at Woke Capital provided.
00:37:41.100He shared this picture or the screenshot rather of Vivek Ramaswamy reacting to a clip of Fuentes saying the left has to give up immigration.
00:37:51.780The right has to give up on the free market to be like for this populist coalition that he's referring to.
00:37:55.760I don't know if I really agree with that sort of uniparty populist coalition sort of manifesting, but Carl Hollywood, he provides this commentator because Vivek Ramaswamy quoted that Fuentes video and said a nationalist, a national socialist American workers party built around a shared ethnic identity.
00:38:16.060So here's what Carl Hollywood said one more time.
00:38:20.980They're giving away the op, the grift, right, neocons, center, left Jews temporarily spooked by October 7th are amplifying Nick and boosting his platform in order to tar any criticism of ethno-narcissist bad actors or immigration as Nazism.
00:38:33.800They are making him our face as to cut us out and reassert control over the GOP.
00:38:38.440They're framing a false dichotomy between the center, left uniparty, slow communism business as usual.
00:38:42.440And he cites Barry Weiss, Vivek Ramaswamy, and a dissident Christian national socialist fascism, a name only leftism with fascist skin, kind of a dirt left.
00:38:55.060This playbook has worked for them before.
00:38:56.900Obviously, this is what hamstringed the first Trump administration was a lot of really good guys were removed from consideration for positions quite early on.
00:39:05.620And they used the alt-right framing as a way to sort of parse out people that would have been entering the admin or that would have been in advisor roles, these sorts of things.
00:39:15.780It was used as a friend-enemy distinction.
00:39:19.400And yeah, I think Carl Hollywood points it out well here.
00:39:22.180They are trying to make Nick the face, again, of anyone to the right of Ted Cruz as a way to cut out and reassert control over the GOP.
00:39:30.200I think this needs to be amplified more because, look, there's a lot of people that have a lot of problems with Nick Fuentes that are on the right.
00:39:57.800You don't have to go and defend every single thing Fuentes said to acknowledge what's going on here, acknowledge that there is an op at play.
00:40:06.880There's a dragnet that's being laid across the right right now to ostracize you from power.
00:40:12.360So you have to completely reject the framing.
00:40:13.800I think that's why Kevin Roberts' statement initially was so particularly useful because he was sort of making that distinction in a fairly explicit way.
00:40:25.240And it was completely eviscerated, obviously.
00:42:00.160Connor, I don't know what's your outsider perspective kind of looking in.
00:42:02.900Do you see this as like a play, a ploy?
00:42:04.940Or do you think there's maybe something else going on here?
00:42:06.260Well, first of all, I must note that if Vivek Ramaswamy objects to a national socialist workers' party built around a shared ethnic identity,
00:42:14.820he should probably go and speak to Prime Minister Modi in India and tell him to knock it off with the Hindu nationalism.
00:42:19.980But of course, that's not going to happen because Vivek is a blood and soil nationalist for somewhere, just not America.
00:42:26.740In America, you know, he can dress up as a cowboy and consider himself one of the founding fathers, along with Martin Luther King,
00:42:32.800who, much like Vivek, plagiarized a hell of a lot.
00:42:36.220As far as Nick's attempt to build a working class, like disaffected left and right coalition,
00:42:44.980I mean, he's mentioned this before with the ability to work with Muslims in a recent stream.
00:42:50.000He even said that he would be willing to work with Zoran Mandani.
00:42:52.580And the problem he's got with that is I understand the impulse to want to make concessions on populist economics with the left
00:43:01.860in order to get sort of like border control and a breakaway from foreign interventionism and Israeli influence over your politics done.
00:43:10.540Like that's a completely valid ambition.
00:43:13.420But the problem he's got is I think he underestimates the extent to which anti-whiteness and mass migration,
00:43:20.740like full-on third world replacement, we're going to steal your stuff, we're basically brown bane,
00:43:26.760is endemic as a pillar to the left party platform.
00:43:30.460Like not just the Democrat party, but the broader left.
00:43:32.920Because they genuinely believe in the blank slate.
00:43:35.140This is why they're still wedded up to gender ideology.
00:43:37.700It's why they still see minorities as essentially poor, hapless infants who need all of your possessions
00:43:44.280and who are just the victims of history.
00:43:46.600And so getting them to part with that, to build a broad enough coalition that is larger than MAGA winning the popular vote
00:43:53.920and all of the branches of government, unlikely.
00:43:58.460And also in regard to building one's own coalition, as you've mentioned,
00:44:02.760like Nick's fallen out with people on our side.