Trump Declaring Antifa Terrorists Means YouTube MUST Ban Far Left ft. Will Chamberlain
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Trump has designated Antifa a domestic terrorist organization. Will they fall under his authority? Or will they fight back? Plus, Google admits to censoring YouTubers and will be forced to reinstate banned accounts, and more.
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iGaming Ontario. I think this will end up, this is where I really need that foreign
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terrorist organization designation because that will prohibit this, right? The, for
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example, I mean, if you place them under sanctions, it's the same reason that members of the Russian
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government can't have blue checks on X because X is a United States company. There are sanctions
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on Russia so there can't be any financial relationship between the United States and
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entities associated with the Russian government. Same thing we'll start applying here. If we get
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that designation, every blue check will have to go away. From the Post Millennial, Google admits
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Biden admin pressured them to censor YouTubers and will reinstate banned accounts. This is shocking.
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Rhett Jim Jordan said that's not all. He says YouTube admits the Biden admin censorship pressure was
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unacceptable and wrong. Confirms the Biden admin wanted Americans censored for speech that did not
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violate their policies. They detail when YouTube began rolling back its censorship policies on
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political speech after the judiciary began its investigation. States that public debates should
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never come at the expense of relying on authorities. Promises to never use third-party fact checkers.
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Warns that Europe censorship laws target American companies and threaten American speech.
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Now I have questions, serious questions about where this goes. Will these companies adhere to Trump's
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authority? Well, right now they're terrified of Jim Jordan and the House Judiciary Committee.
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So it seems like they will. But Trump just declared Antifa a terrorist organization. And the question is,
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will they fall in line? I'm curious about the legal matter. So we brought in a lawyer.
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We'll be joined by Will Chamberlain. Let's bring him in now.
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And let's see if we get this working. It looks like it may be working. Audio seems good. Let's just start it up.
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Make sure everything is—usually we have some audio issues. Will, can you hear me?
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So we decided to bring in a lawyer because I got a bunch of questions,
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not just on the legal ramifications of Trump's Antifa terrorist designation,
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or what we just discovered about what Google was doing in censorship,
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but also the cultural elements of what happens to a country when confidence is broken.
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Trump has designated Antifa a domestic terror organization through an executive order.
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Now, there's a report out from The Hill claiming he has no legal authority to do so,
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and it's meaningless. Is that true? What is this?
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I mean, meaningless is a little bit strong, but there isn't a statute that sets out a category
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of domestic terrorist organization. As far as I know, that means that the designation
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would have some profound legal implication. However, the rest of the executive order does
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immediately direct the Department of Justice and all related agencies to start going after
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Antifa then prosecuting them under existing law. So I think the idea that saying the entire
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executive order is toothless is wrong, but the idea that saying that there is actually some
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current legal import to identifying them as a domestic terrorist organization, I think that's correct.
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I think actually then that would imply the executive order is actually quite
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toothful. If there's no legal distinction, then it is only what Trump asserts it to be,
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Right. And I mean, Trump can just say somebody's a domestic terrorist organization. He can demand
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that executive branch officials refer to it as a domestic terrorist organization,
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treat it with the seriousness of any other terrorist organization. Remember, he's the guy whose
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responsibility is to take care that the laws are faithfully executed. He is in charge of the
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Department of Justice. He's in charge of the Department of Homeland Security. So when an executive
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order comes out, you know, essentially it's not the fact that they were semantically defined as a
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domestic terrorist organization. It's the fact that President Trump is saying you need to prioritize
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these people and stop their criminality. And that's a high priority, number one.
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But there are serious cultural elements here. So I was just talking about the big tech platforms all
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have rules banning terrorist organizations. The obvious question is, who defines what a
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terrorist organization is? Because they're not saying foreign. This would apply to American
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organizations as well. So this is the question that I've been asking. First, I'll ask you your
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opinion. Do you think the big tech platforms are actually going to treat these Antifa accounts like
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terrorists and ban them? I think Elon Musk's ex probably will. I wouldn't bet on anybody else doing
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it. I assume that there's this sort of lingering meme among the left that Antifa isn't really an
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organization because it's so decentralized, which is very cute, but false. There is a loose organization
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and they're trying to have this very cramped definition of what constitutes an organization to
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be somebody with like a supreme leader who runs the organization like a CEO and has authority over
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all its subordinates. Organizations can be much more loose and decentralized than that and still
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be organizations. Yeah. I can speak from experience. I know Andy knows probably the expert on this one,
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but there are leaders. And it's actually quite simple. Who prints the flyers? Who picks the time?
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Who tells people where to stand? And I've personally met these people at these meetings. They exist.
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They lie. And these NGOs, these nonprofits lie as well, claiming it's leaderless because they want to make
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it difficult for law enforcement to track down who's actually responsible for funding and organizing all
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this stuff. But I'm curious, where does this go? I mean, I don't know that Trump actually needed to
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designate them terrorist organizations for any law enforcement function. He could have just told Pam
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Bondi, start going after these groups. Does this grant him any kind of special RICO powers or preempt
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anything? Like what's the point of doing it? I mean, I think it's to, I think there's a symbolic
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nature of the, of the executive order to say that, you know, he's, this is formally recognized by the
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executive branch as a terrorist organization. And I think there's value independent of everything
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else to that. It's simple, but it is, it is still symbolic. It doesn't create some new statutory right
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or statute. It doesn't create some statutory right for the government to go after people that it didn't
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already have. But we do have laws on the books specifically targeting acts of terror.
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Yeah, we do. And we also have acts of, we have laws in the books about foreign terrorist organizations
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too. I think that the real, the real interesting next move is whether president Trump's going to
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be able to designate Antifa as a foreign terrorist organization. I know they're looking into it.
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Wow. And that actually does have meaningful legal import because there are federal crimes against
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material support for a foreign terrorist organization, for example. And then there are
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travel bans and there are any, there are, there are a number of ramifications and consequences that can
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result when an organization is designated as an FTO. Well, there's a prominently Antifa,
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Germany. The Netherlands is considering also naming Antifa as a terrorist organization.
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What would stop them from saying this is a foreign terrorist organization?
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It's, it's not clear. I mean, again, this is one of those situations where you have a whole bunch
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of left-leaning journalists saying, oh, of course this couldn't be done. It's impossible because
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Antifa is some decentralized grouping of ragtag bums down the street or something, uh, as opposed to an
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actual organization of people that cause riot and mayhem all over the world. We just saw it actually in
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Italy, uh, huge Antifa, uh, riots, uh, against the fact because the Italian government didn't
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recognize the state of Palestine. And Paris as well. Just the other day, uh, Nick Shirley posted
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this crazy video of people saying they were Antifa. They are aligning under a singular banner. You know,
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what my guess would be is that the Trump administration probably knows they could issue a
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declaration of, as an FTO right away. I bet they want to get some financial ties first so that when
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some lib or, you know, tries to make the argument that just because they use the same symbols and
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then the Trump admin can say, actually look at this exchange of finances and communications or
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something like that. Yeah. And I think they probably want to make the findings as robust as possible to
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insulate them from court challenge. Uh, right. If the state department, if the state department does
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There's a, there's an opportunity 30 days to challenge the designation and say, you know,
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it's not a foreign organization. It's not an organization at all and potentially get it
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removed from the list. So I think they're, you know, whereas Trump making this symbolic
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declaration now is just, he's just saying it actually, you know, getting the foreign
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has a terrorist organization designation done and making it stick. They probably want to have as
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I actually think this is one of the riskiest things that Trump has done. I was talking about
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this on IRL last night that you had explained to me back in 2021 with Texas v. Pennsylvania.
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You had said, and I'll, you can, you can elaborate this because I don't want to put words in your
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mouth and it was your idea, but the, the reason why I asked why the Supreme Court would not take up
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this, this lawsuit between Texas and Pennsylvania, only Thomas and Alito, Alito would. And you said
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the Supreme, simple version, Supreme Court doesn't want people to realize it has no enforcement
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power. Yes. Do you want to basically explain that? And better than I forget the facts of the Texas
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and the Pennsylvania case. So it's hard for me to remember exactly what was going on. Uh,
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what I said that in reference to, but I can, I can't explain the concept is that,
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you know, the, the federal newspapers explained that the judiciary was created as the weakest
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branch of government and it's totally relies on its legitimacy and its judgment. Um, and it relies
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on the other branches of government to enforce its rulings. And if it's seen as illegitimate,
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or if it's made to be responsible for continuous supervision of somebody, then it doesn't want to do
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those things. I guess in the, in the Antifa context, um, I mean, you could see them trying,
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I mean, I could, I don't think that necessarily comes into play too much. Uh, it might come,
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it will come into play on the foreign terrorist organization designation if that came, but I don't
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see them, you know, there's, there's no cause of action. The concept, the reason I bring up the
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concept, it's not so much that I'm saying the Supreme court will have to issue a ruling, but I'm
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bringing up the issue of confidence. The Supreme court fears that if people realize they can't enforce
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certain actions, people will start to disregard many of their rulings because what are you going to do
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about it? And so the idea is that the Supreme court tries to issue rulings that they know people will
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socially agree to without being so egregious, it requires physical enforcement. That's the,
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that's the general understanding. I believe. I think it's that they, they don't want to go too
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far outside the bounds of the Overton window with any of their rulings to the point that it threatens
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their legitimacy. I think that's true. Um, and they certainly don't want to do things that
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require kind of continuous oversight. You're seeing a major retreat from things like
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consent decrees where, uh, you know, a local jurisdiction and maybe the department of justice
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will sign some settlement requiring, uh, the DOJ or not the DOJ rather, but requiring judicial
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oversight of the local policies of that police department. This was really common in the past.
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Uh, but the Supreme court doesn't really like these. And the reason being is it kind of,
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it puts the judge in a position where they're doing this almost executive function of continuing to
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is in continuing to monitor whether somebody is complying with the law. That's a classic
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executive branch function and not a judicial function. So they did, they want to be in the
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business of judging. The reason I bring this up is that my, my view on this is that under the
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Biden administration, we're now learning, like we knew this, but we're now learning this with Jim
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Jordan, just putting out this post, the Biden admin administration, Democrats pressured Google
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to censor people who broke no rules. And the political climate was such that Google was scared
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of the executive branch and complied and began censoring people. My view now is with all of these
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platforms, having these rules against terrorism and supporting terrorism and memorializing, or in
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any way, like Google's actually pretty explicit about even saying nice things about him as bannable
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is removable with Trump formally declaring as an executive order that they're terrorists.
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This is a, this is a public confidence challenge. If YouTube acts, meta, tick tock, et cetera,
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do not now act as though Trump's word matters. There are going to be people who say Trump is illegitimate
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and big tech platforms don't even follow the executive branch's designation of terrorism.
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Okay. So the, the argument therefore is that the, the Trump shouldn't have done this because it
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makes him potentially look feckless. Is that, is that the argument? I'm saying it's a risky move
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by Trump. And if, if YouTube, for instance, declares the Biden administration yelled at us,
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so we banned innocent people. The Trump administration made a formal declaration of a criminal extremist
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terrorist group. We don't care what he thinks. We are not banning these people. It shows a clear
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distinction in what they fear and what they don't. Sure. I, but then I, I guess I wouldn't say that
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it's risky on the part of the Trump administration. If anything, then it's just revealing, right? It's
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revealing the extent to which, uh, these, these platforms are essentially in the pocket of the
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left. And they, you know, regardless of whether the president of the United States says some
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organization that's clearly rioting all over the country, launching violence everywhere, though,
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they're not a terrorist organization, but we were going to take the word of the Biden
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administration about every scientist who was saying anything about COVID. Well,
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it's clear who you're in the pocket of. So I think it's, I don't think it's risky for Trump so
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much as it's revealing of what these tech companies will do. I believe the risk is that it shows
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these companies don't fear Trump's enforcement capabilities. They don't take it seriously and
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there's no real threat. And then from that, you have a fracturing of confidence in who actually
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has legitimate power in the United States. If Trump's executive branch cannot treat terrorist
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organizations as terrorist organizations and he's told it's illegitimate, it starts to fracture the
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view of who has actual authority in this country. I think, I think Trump needs to be able to say
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terrorists are terrorists and he'll be treated as terrorists. But the big tech companies, it's the
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majority of how we consume information and how our society builds confidence in who they actually
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fear. The way to describe it is if Trump says he's going to arrest somebody, but no one actually
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thinks he'll ever win in court, they'd ignore it. Take a look at California. When Trump says we're
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going to start rounding up illegal immigrants, the government of California doesn't enforce the law
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and allows the far left to engage in violence against Trump. There is a fracturing of confidence in,
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I'll put it this way, the way it needs to be is that there's a monopoly on violence from the
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superior authority of this country. If Antifa feels that they can firebomb a federal police,
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a federal law enforcement facility and the state of California will safe, will provide them safe
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harbor, they will keep doing it. And then people in that state will recognize, I don't have to listen
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to Trump or I shouldn't listen to Trump because the true monopoly on violence comes from the state
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of California. And that's when you start getting these civil war distinctions. But I don't know,
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maybe I'm crazy, right? Yeah. I mean, I think what you're saying is, and what you're right about is
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this will result, this will end up in a test of the will of the Trump administration, whether they have
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the will to enforce the law and to put down these sort of quiet, low-key, quote-unquote, rebellions
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that, you know, essentially, I mean, California is already starting to do stuff like this.
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You know, they passed a law purporting to regulate whether or not federal agents could wear face
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masks in their states, which they don't have authority to do. It's completely frivolous.
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They have no authority to tell federal agents how to do their jobs.
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So, yeah, I mean, the only point being that if the Trump administration has the will
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to enforce the law, to push forward with this, I mean, the Supreme Court's going with Trump and
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the Trump administration on basically everything, right? They're on a record-winning streak of the
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Supreme Court. But these are the cracks forming, right? You made a really good point with Newsom.
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He did that press conference the other day where he says federal agents can't wear masks.
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And again, he has no authority over this federal law enforcement, but he's trying to assert it.
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There's currently an ongoing battle as to who has the authority over the National Guard in
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California. I think right now the latest was a stay so that Trump does retain control.
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But it's gone back and forth so many times. I don't actually know where we're at right now.
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And think about it this way. Trump has said, formally by executive order, they are terrorists.
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Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?
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I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day.
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Obviously, the goal is a championship. There's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to
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If YouTube allows them on the platform, they will be making money.
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This is massive. I mean, if you have Antifa-aligned group flying the flag of Antifa,
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asserting they are Antifa in California, and using money earned from social media platforms
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that refuse to remove them, and that money then goes towards their terrorist activities,
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as viewed by the Trump administration, I think we're in a very dangerous situation.
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Yeah, I think this will end up—this is where I really need that foreign terrorist organization
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designation, because that will prohibit this, right? For example, I mean, if you place them
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under sanctions, it's the same reason that members of the Russian government can't have
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blue checks on X, because X is a United States company. There are sanctions on Russia, so there
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can't be any financial relationship between the United States and entities associated with the
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Russian government. Same thing will start applying here. If we get that designation, every blue check
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will have to go away, and it's not clear that X will be allowed to even host their accounts if
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they're a foreign terrorist organization in particular. So I think that I really want the
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administration to go further here. They should be designated as a foreign terrorist organization.
00:22:12.680
The organization was founded in Europe. It is not an American organization as such. It's a global
00:22:20.900
organization, and we should cite it as such. I mean, there's videos of them right now in foreign
00:22:24.800
countries, and these people do communicate. I've traveled all over the world, and my other
00:22:30.060
journalists and I would call these people the tourists, a group of activists that somehow ended up all over
00:22:34.560
the country, and even in China and Turkey and France and Germany. The same people, the same organizing
00:22:41.120
meetings, because these are people, some might call them globalists, or they believe in no borders,
00:22:47.440
one world, whatever you want to call it. They're communists. They want total domination. These are
00:22:52.040
leaders. They're active. I suppose what I'm seeing now, then, what we can look at, Trump's designation is
00:22:58.120
not a legal distinction. It is just him saying it. The FTO would be that legal distinction.
00:23:03.040
So it sounds like Trump may be poking at the confidence of this country to see,
00:23:11.300
will these other companies, not just big tech, but will companies actually fall in line with what
00:23:16.300
he declares, or are they going to say, we won't move unless we have to?
00:23:22.000
Yeah, I think that's actually an interesting way of looking at what Trump is doing. It's sort of
00:23:26.560
testing the waters and seeing the extent to how far does his power reach, what are these companies
00:23:33.580
willing to do in the face of the president of the United States saying, that's a terrorist
00:23:37.720
organization. We're dedicating federal resources to fight them. I'm not sure how the tech companies
00:23:44.000
will respond, but I think you're right. Trump does this sort of stuff. He loves throwing out tests and
00:23:50.680
rhetorical traps for people. He throws stuff out there to see what comes back.
00:23:55.040
Like the Pam Bondi thing, right? Where he posted on Truth saying,
00:23:58.440
Pam, go and arrest these people. Why are we waiting? Then deletes it. I think it's a trial,
00:24:03.700
but he wants to see what the reaction is going to be. The point I was making at the beginning of
00:24:07.400
this show earlier was that if the first thing Trump did when he got into office was instruct
00:24:12.460
FBI agents to go arrest Hillary, I bet they'd say no. They'd say, I'm not, this is crazy because
00:24:18.780
Trump is trying to jump out of the Overton window. The expectation of this is too great.
00:24:22.980
So he needs to build the pressure and slowly move in that direction. That's why I think we're seeing
00:24:28.700
like Letitia James facing prosecution over the mortgage thing. It's rather light. Once it becomes
00:24:34.240
more accepted and commonplace that these people will be charged and arrested, and they have been,
00:24:38.740
it won't be a great leap for a rank and file FBI guy to be like, okay, I'll go arrest Hillary.
00:24:43.260
I could see that. I think, you know, he's also trying to find, I mean, one of the things the DOJ
00:24:49.940
is conscious of this. They're trying to select cases that they're going to win on to bring to
00:24:54.220
the Supreme Court. They, you know, there's been a lot more injunctions against the DOJ than cases
00:24:57.460
they've actually brought to the Supreme Court's attention. And so they're being very strategic
00:25:01.960
about it in the same way. There was a lot of worry, especially in the aftermath of the Alien
00:25:06.060
Enemies Act case that the Trump administration was going to defy court orders. They've made really
00:25:10.400
clear they're not going to do that. They're going to obey the court. And the consequence of that has
00:25:14.920
been a slew of victories at the Supreme Court, I think. I mean, also the fact that they're on
00:25:18.800
the right side of the law, but that's also a big part of it. So you could then take that sort of
00:25:23.460
analogy from how DOJ is treating the Supreme Court and say, okay, now this is how President Trump is
00:25:29.000
sort of, you know, creating the environment where people are used to the idea of, okay, we're actually
00:25:35.660
going to go after Antifa in a serious way. We're going to start by saying they're a domestic
00:25:38.580
terrorist organization. Then maybe the leap to a foreign terrorist organization doesn't seem so
00:25:42.440
large. And then all of a sudden a whole bunch of authorities open up. There's no way they don't
00:25:47.040
know. I know, you know, Stephen Miller knows, right? He knows what Antifa is. He knows what
00:25:54.040
they've done. He's got all the stories lined up. He's watched them happen. That guy is very,
00:25:58.040
very smart. So I have to imagine that the domestic terror designation, which is not,
00:26:02.780
it's, it's, it's not a legal distinction. It's a Trump declaration is intentional for what reason
00:26:08.880
we can speculate, but they know how and when they're going to pull the foreign terrorist
00:26:13.340
organization trigger. I think they've planned this out. Yeah, I think that's right. And Stephen
00:26:17.780
Miller's no fool. He's very, very legally sophisticated. I don't know if he has a law
00:26:22.000
degree, but if he doesn't, he might as well. He's extremely legally sophisticated. So, you know,
00:26:27.820
there's no question that the administration knows what it's doing on this front, that it's not,
00:26:32.460
you know, make, it's not making things up. It, they, they put out this executive order knowing
00:26:36.560
that it didn't have legal ramifications in the same way that a foreign terrorist organization
00:26:43.540
designation would. So they're not fools. It's a trial balloon. It's, it's, it's, it's the cultural
00:26:48.300
play. If Trump came out and tried the FTO thing up front, the backlash would be nuts and it's
00:26:54.800
already pretty bad. But I think because there's no real legal distinction, and I was even mentioning
00:26:59.480
this before, cause people have long said he should do it. And I'm like, but you can't like,
00:27:03.120
there's no legal distinction for this. You look at, um, who was it? I can't remember who it was.
00:27:08.680
Um, uh, uh, that stupid meet the press guy, Chuck Todd, I think maybe I'm, maybe it's not him,
00:27:14.020
but he was, Oh no, now Trump's making it. You're a terrorist. If you oppose him, we knew that was going
00:27:19.380
to be the way they went. But with this very light approach, there's no real direct ramification to
00:27:24.980
you being Antifa. You've got Krasensteins, you got all these liberals coming out saying I'm Antifa.
00:27:29.440
We know nothing's going to happen to him because the distinction has no real teeth. But I guess the
00:27:34.920
question is this for you. Um, everybody knows my answer. When Trump makes these moves,
00:27:46.840
Hmm. Uh, to a degree, I mean, this one, I think they don't have a choice because it's, again,
00:27:52.620
there, there's no legal import to the designation. Will the left just let him do anything?
00:27:56.760
Not really. They've, they've, they've made it clear. They want to resist at every turn. I mean,
00:28:00.360
you just saw what happened in Illinois where you have, you know, candidates for Congress standing in
00:28:04.080
front of ICE vehicles, trying to, trying to stop it. So they're going to, they're going to try and
00:28:08.820
resist. It's just, it really is just a test of the will of the Trump administration at the end of
00:28:12.740
the day. The federal government's the most powerful entity in the history of the, of the world. Most
00:28:16.700
powerful entity in the history of humanity. It just takes the will to use its power and essentially
00:28:22.780
stop those who would resist it. The ultimate question is when does the left give in and accept
00:28:28.180
the authority of Trump with Newsom trying to assert authority of the national guard, trying to
00:28:33.660
assert now authority over federal law enforcement, which he doesn't have and whether big tech is
00:28:39.940
going to fall in line behind Trump's designation of a terrorist organization. The question is when
00:28:44.560
do these companies finally just say, okay, Trump, you're in control or not just Trump, but the federal
00:28:49.760
government. A great example is ABC right now. Jimmy Kimmel gets taken off the air because according to
00:28:55.480
the wall street journal and the Hollywood reporter, he wouldn't apologize. Advertisers and affiliates
00:28:59.560
were angry and Bob Iger and Dana Walden said, Jimmy, the first they were on his side, then said,
00:29:06.620
you're going to make it worse. And Jimmy was like, I don't care. I'm not going to apologize. I'm going
00:29:10.440
to do this. So they pull his show five days later. Would you guys consider anything less than a
00:29:16.920
championship to be a failure from this year? I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially
00:29:21.680
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00:29:27.900
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Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?
00:30:20.860
I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously,
00:30:26.560
the goal is a championship. That's, there's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to
00:30:30.980
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00:30:36.120
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00:31:06.140
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00:31:18.880
Nextstar and Sinclair are still saying they will not air his show. So the, so the affiliates are
00:31:22.480
still pissed. There's no indication advertisers have changed their mind. What changed that made
00:31:28.660
Disney say, okay, Jimmy, you can come back. There was only one other reported issue at play.
00:31:34.320
And according to the Wall Street Journal, Dana Walden and Bob Iger feared for the safety of their staff
00:31:39.820
due to threats they had been receiving. Since then, a leftist anti-Trump guy opened fire on an ABC
00:31:46.720
station and several, several other affiliates owned by Sinclair received terroristic death threats.
00:31:51.980
So they pulled Charlie Kirk's memorial. It stands to reason, the most probable cases,
00:31:57.620
leftist terror forced Disney's hand. If Trump cannot assert more authority than random psychotic
00:32:06.740
leftist terrorists, no one will listen to what he has to say. The right will be culturally toothless.
00:32:12.200
And the, and, and this goes to a dark place where I have to imagine the end result is going to be
00:32:18.780
Trump kicking doors down with an expanded federal law enforcement insurrection act or otherwise to
00:32:23.620
stop the terror threats or the left just increases the violence. They don't let Trump do whatever.
00:32:30.800
I mean, there, there needs to be a stop put to it. Um, and this connects to something I was having
00:32:37.260
arguments a few days ago because, you know, obviously there was this whole move where you
00:32:40.700
had kind of moderate liberal types saying, Oh, right-wing cancel culture is in because of the
00:32:46.340
overwhelming force that, you know, right-wing people were just boycotting or, you know, trying to
00:32:51.600
get people fired and, uh, shows canceled. And they were saying, Oh, this is right-wing cancel culture.
00:32:57.020
And I'm like, cancel culture. If this is not cancel culture, this is necessary for the health of the
00:33:01.620
Republic because in a world where assassination becomes normalized, you need to just game that out
00:33:06.320
a little bit. You just need to think about the consequences of a world where if anybody random
00:33:11.260
crazy person or any lonely person knows that they can go out and assassinate a right-wing leader and
00:33:16.260
they will be cheered and absolved of that crime. Uh, there means a lot more assassinations. And at a
00:33:23.760
certain point, any political movement, if their own people are getting
00:33:26.240
assassinated, they, they, they just, it's, it's effectively civil war. This is Algeria,
00:33:31.300
right? That's, that's what the Algerian rebels were doing. What's up?
00:33:36.780
Yeah. That's Algeria that where they were just shooting law enforcement and the, you know, the,
00:33:40.320
the native uprising was just essentially, we are in full out rebellion against the operation of the
00:33:44.480
state. Well, I don't want to live in that world. It's a really, really bad world for everybody.
00:33:48.900
Right. I want to go get Taco Bell and watch world poker tour and just put my feet up and relax.
00:33:54.040
And I have to worry about the explosions outside. And that's where I feel we're heading. But you
00:33:57.880
just made the point that, that I was alluding to the point at which the left feels that Trump's
00:34:03.120
authority is toothless is when they decide to engage in escalation of violence. And the Jimmy
00:34:09.960
Kimmel precedent is terrifying. The only discernible reason they brought him back is because of the
00:34:15.060
terror attacks. He's not apologizing. That's the report from the New York post. Advertisers and
00:34:19.660
affiliates are still angry. The affiliates are still pulling his show, but ABC caved. Why?
00:34:25.800
Someone put a bunch of bullets in an ABC station and they've been getting death threats,
00:34:30.160
terroristic threats. What they are saying publicly when ABC does this is we are more afraid of the
00:34:36.380
left than we are of the right. Because why? Charlie Kirk was assassinated. What did the right do?
00:34:41.940
They got together. They prayed. When George Floyd, a random guy no one knew, died, they burned down
00:34:49.680
every city they could. I mean that figuratively, billions in damage. Bob Iger knows who the threat
00:34:56.500
is. Trump ain't going to come arrest him. The right is not going to smash windows. The joke I used to
00:35:02.220
make is, do you really believe Twitter fears that Dave Rubin will march down the street with a crowbar
00:35:08.380
and a bunch of classical liberals to smash their windows out? No. Dave will do nothing. And I use
00:35:14.260
him as an example because he's such like a, you're like, and I don't mean this in a disrespectful way,
00:35:18.960
he's like a run of mill, like kind of lukewarm political commentator. Not extreme in the least
00:35:23.180
bit. These Antifa guys have told you they will kill you. So where does that, where does that bring
00:35:27.980
us? Exactly what you said with assassinations. Yeah. And I mean, it's civilization versus barbarism all
00:35:33.740
the way down. That's the fundamental divide in our politics. And we're on the side of
00:35:38.940
civilization. And as a result of being on the side of civilization on the right, you know,
00:35:43.060
we're not going to be the party that's out there wanting riots, wanting disorder, wanting random
00:35:47.560
decentralized violence. But what we will demand is the assertion of legitimate and lawful public
00:35:53.160
authority against the enemies of public order and peace. That is what we want. That is what we should
00:35:57.440
fight for. And that ultimately means an enormous amount of responsibility is on President Trump and
00:36:01.980
P.M. Bondi and the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security. Because we are
00:36:06.120
the peaceful movement, it is on them to ensure that justice reigns and that these terrorists are not
00:36:12.660
allowed to get away with this nonsense. The last thing I'll say is I made this point quite a bit.
00:36:17.220
People keep advocating on the right for the freedom of speech of these liberals who are smearing Charlie,
00:36:23.020
advocating for more death. Maybe it's a little rough. They're basically saying, hey, we shouldn't
00:36:27.980
cancel people because they're, you know, insulting Charlie Kirk and dancing on his grave or whatever.
00:36:31.980
And my response is, I'm not going to advocate they be fired for their opinions, but I'm not going to
00:36:36.900
defend them either. I think it's time that we recognize we are not a singular nation of differing opinion
00:36:43.540
arguing over the limits. We are a constitutional republic being attacked by forces that do not agree with
00:36:49.800
and will not adhere to our form of governance. When they go out and engage in terror like Antifa does, when they
00:36:55.560
suppress silence and threaten, that is not the American people debating. That is an external threat
00:37:02.120
that is inside this country now trying to destroy our rule of law and our way of life.
00:37:07.520
I'm not going to stand up for them when they get censored or silenced or otherwise.
00:37:11.600
Yeah, you're nicer than I am. I'm actively going to insist that they be censored.
00:37:17.620
I'm sorry. Not necessarily by the state, but certainly this is exactly the kind of thing
00:37:21.700
that private pressure and societal pressure is appropriate for. Yes, celebrating the assassination
00:37:25.920
of Charlie Kirk is not a crime. Congratulations, we're not going to jail you. But it's appalling
00:37:30.520
and abhorrent and completely destructive to the social fabric of this country and deserves social
00:37:35.920
You know what? You've changed my mind. I agree with you now. The people who would celebrate
00:37:40.000
or otherwise defend the assassination, I think you've made a really great point. They need to be
00:37:43.740
censored and silenced. And the reason is, a culture—this is your point. It's a great point.
00:37:48.940
A culture that tolerates in any way political assassinations is a culture opening the door
00:37:55.100
Correct. That is the core of my argument. It is a necessary—in order to prevent civil war,
00:38:00.740
you must have a hard red line in terms of social sanction on the celebration and encouragement
00:38:06.460
of assassination. It must render you persona non grata in polite society.
00:38:10.700
Yeah, yeah. You know what? I agree. I agree. Will, this has been
00:38:13.620
great. Thanks for hanging out. Where can people find you?
00:38:16.340
I'm at Will Chamberlain on X, and you can also follow the work of the Article 3 project.
00:38:21.580
We were also trying to actually get Ilhan Omar's trip from her committees. That was a big project
00:38:25.920
to find over the past week. We can go into why that didn't work. We've lost by a single vote
00:38:30.180
maybe another time. But follow what the Article 3 project does. We're constantly trying to agitate
00:38:34.420
and move the ball forward on conservative politics, and especially when it comes to the law
00:38:39.540
Right on, man. Well, thanks for hanging out, and we'll see you next time.
00:38:44.140
That was, of course, Will Chamberlain, lawyer, Article 3 project, working to get Ilhan Omar
00:38:52.020
stripped of her committees, as she should be for what she has said about Charlie Kirk. But
00:38:55.940
you know what? He's changed my mind. He really did. You see, I hear thoughts and ideas. They
00:39:00.240
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00:39:06.360
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Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?
00:39:41.940
I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously,
00:39:47.380
the goal is a championship. There's no doubt in that, and that's the goal. We want to win
00:39:52.420
I'm Christina Williams, host of the podcast, in case you missed it with Christina Williams.
00:39:57.800
The WNBA playoffs are here, and I've got the inside scoop on everything from key matchups
00:40:02.860
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00:40:07.780
It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels and embrace
00:40:13.700
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00:40:19.100
So, to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted, but we
00:40:22.960
also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way, and we're hoping to, you know,
00:40:27.660
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00:40:31.700
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However, Will makes a very, very, very important point.
00:40:42.360
The line at which we say we are no longer engaged in the expressing of ideas.
00:40:46.200
If our society allows people to venerate assassins, at grand scale, I think scale matters.
00:41:00.640
I think, you know, when I talk, I think it plays into the idea that I was saying before,
00:41:05.620
We defended, we had lawyers defend Nazis, but it's because we didn't face the threat.
00:41:09.880
If on a normal day, 30 years ago, someone cheered for an assassin, we'd be like, well, you're
00:41:16.760
crazy, because our society isn't threatened by that at a low scale.
00:41:24.820
Do we allow millions to go online and celebrate assassins?
00:41:30.840
Luigi Mangione, the alleged assassin in the insurance assassination of the CEO, he's been
00:41:42.620
And then not even a year later, Charlie Kirk is killed.
00:41:45.920
Because the leftists know they will be celebrated and absolved of all wrongdoing.
00:41:52.520
We cannot allow a society to function that way.
00:42:00.600
Don't go online and glorify a high-profile political assassination.
00:42:05.660
And if you're gonna, there should be social consequences.
00:42:14.680
And if the argument is that we will for the sake of freedom, congratulations.
00:42:25.600
We may try and pull the door closed, and the door breaks off.
00:42:29.900
But the door to civil war is before us, and we have to try everything we can to prevent
00:42:37.880
Coming up next, we've got our good friend Russell Brand.
00:42:44.060
Shout out to the Mug Club, Steven Crowder and crew.
00:42:51.240
for TimCast IRL, and we do have some segments coming up today as well.
00:42:56.280
You can follow me on X and Instagram at TimCast.
00:42:58.900
Make sure you do it, and check out the new channel, rumble.com slash Tim Pool.
00:43:05.420
I've got a video coming up at 2 about the Charlie Kirk assassination and the conspiracy
00:43:09.200
It's also available at youtube.com slash at Tim Pool.
00:43:14.620
Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?
00:43:20.260
I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day.
00:43:27.040
That's, there's no doubt in that, and that's the goal.
00:43:31.300
I'm Christina Williams, host of the podcast, in case you missed it with Christina Williams.
00:43:36.040
The WNBA playoffs are here, and I've got the inside scoop on everything from key matchups
00:43:41.160
and standout players to the behind-the-scenes moments you won't find anywhere else.
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It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels and embrace
00:43:52.020
For all the biggest stories in women's basketball, plus exclusive interviews with the game's
00:43:57.860
So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted, but we also know,
00:44:01.740
you know, that's just one stop along the way, and we're hoping to, you know, make a run.
00:44:05.740
So listen to In Case You Missed It with Christina Williams, an iHeart Women's Sports production
00:44:10.420
in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
00:44:17.460
Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?
00:44:21.980
I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day.
00:44:28.780
That's, there's no doubt in that, and that's the goal.
00:44:32.440
I'm Christina Williams, host of the podcast, In Case You Missed It with Christina Williams.
00:44:37.820
The WNBA playoffs are here, and I've got the inside scoop on everything from key matchups
00:44:42.900
and standout players to the behind-the-scenes moments you won't find anywhere else.
00:44:47.820
It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels and embrace
00:44:53.740
For all the biggest stories in women's basketball, plus exclusive interviews with the game's
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So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted, but we also know,
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you know, that's just one stop along the way, and we're hoping to, you know, make a run.
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So listen to In Case You Missed It with Christina Williams, an iHeart Women's Sports production
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in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
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Whatever team Fia's on has a chance to win a championship.
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I'm Christina Williams, host of the podcast, In Case You Missed It with Christina Williams.
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The WNBA playoffs are here, and I've got the inside scoop on everything from key matchups
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and standout players to the behind-the-scenes moments you won't find anywhere else.
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It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels and embrace
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So listen to In Case You Missed It with Christina Williams, an iHeart Women's Sports production
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in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,