The Culture War - Tim Pool


Trump Drops PROOF CNN LIED About Iran Strikes, SLAMS Media, CEASEFIRE HOLDS ft. Rep. Marlin Stutzman


Summary

On today's show, we have the latest on the latest in the Iran strikes, and the reaction from President Trump and the fake news media. We also hear about Ford's new Ford Fusion, and more! Don't miss it!


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00:02:13.320 We've got this from Fox News.
00:02:15.140 Trump and Hegseth seethe at fake news media for doubting U.S. strikes obliterated Iranian nuclear site.
00:02:24.400 Trump says, scum.
00:02:26.480 Now, you've never seen Trump so angry.
00:02:29.220 This is fascinating.
00:02:31.280 Earlier this morning, we heard from Hegseth and Dan King.
00:02:36.080 The strikes on Iran, they report, obliterated the sites.
00:02:39.760 Hegseth said, if you want to figure out what's going on at Fordow, bring a shovel.
00:02:42.700 It's all buried and no one's getting in.
00:02:45.440 They showed evidence and said, based on the IAEA, Israel and United States assessment,
00:02:51.060 it looks like the strikes succeeded.
00:02:53.500 Now, of course, let me say this, first and foremost.
00:02:55.380 You guys know I'm a staunch anti-interventionist.
00:02:59.040 I am not a fan of the U.S. getting involved in these strikes.
00:03:02.880 But just like Soleimani, if Trump is able to engage in his military activity without causing a war,
00:03:08.560 then it's largely vanilla pudding.
00:03:10.780 I'm not happy with it, but it's not all that bad.
00:03:14.280 The fear we have is getting drawn out into entrenched, ongoing, multi-decades wars.
00:03:19.700 And if Trump can avoid that, it is better than any other president in my life.
00:03:24.380 So, vanilla, right?
00:03:26.700 It is what it is.
00:03:28.000 But here's what happens.
00:03:28.760 CNN puts out this leaked report, which apparently was only one page, and omitted that it was an initial low-confidence assessment.
00:03:37.740 Meaning, after the strikes, they said, we don't actually know.
00:03:40.780 From the look of things, it might not be that much damage.
00:03:43.580 We'll have to wait and see.
00:03:44.400 CNN leaks it selectively.
00:03:46.920 The media then runs all around saying it didn't work.
00:03:50.320 And then when you actually get the Pentagon involved, Hegseth, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, as well as other nations,
00:03:57.220 you don't got to like Israel, but Israel, who wants us bombing it, said, actually, they did it.
00:04:01.760 Now, of all people, this is funny, of all nations, Israel has all the reason to say we failed, because they want more war with Iran.
00:04:10.580 But instead, their assessment was they've been set back years, and it would take years to reconstruct this.
00:04:15.820 The media is lying.
00:04:17.640 For whatever reason, it's just they plain hate Donald Trump.
00:04:22.680 Trump slams the press for reporting on government's own intel report, Jake Tapper says.
00:04:28.440 Well, my friends, the media is smarmy, they're full of it, and they lie.
00:04:34.800 And they do it because they need to have something other than what Trump said.
00:04:39.360 Now, to talk about this and the potential for real peace, we're going to be joined by Congressman Stutzman,
00:04:46.720 who's going to be joining us right now as I pull all of this up.
00:04:50.600 And I believe he has a lot to discuss on, where's this silly link?
00:04:54.280 He has a lot to discuss on the Abraham Accords, as well as the Powell meeting, which should be insightful and interesting.
00:05:00.860 So we are loading this up right now.
00:05:04.120 Looks like we are good.
00:05:06.100 Congressman, can you hear me?
00:05:07.840 Yes, I can hear you fine.
00:05:09.880 Thank you for joining me.
00:05:11.520 I think we've got it going right now.
00:05:12.900 So the big story this morning, of course, was Pete Hegseth addressing the leaked intel report,
00:05:20.060 which said that there was the full report, of which I understand, was low confidence,
00:05:25.020 we are not sure we did enough damage, or this is going to set them back more than a few months.
00:05:29.580 But now the full assessment from other nations, other organizations like the IAEA,
00:05:35.060 as well as the full use assessment is that this set them back years.
00:05:37.980 There's a couple of questions in regard to this.
00:05:41.440 How is this information getting leaked?
00:05:43.560 Because it seems like the insinuation is that it may have been leaked by Congress or somebody who was briefed on this.
00:05:50.520 And then just generally, why do you think the media ran with this story without full context?
00:05:56.200 Yeah, well, Tim, great to be with you.
00:05:58.060 I mean, you know, Washington, D.C. is full of sneaks,
00:06:01.040 and especially with the ones that would like to do any sort of damage that they can to President Trump.
00:06:07.860 And, you know, the success that he is having, they just can't admit it.
00:06:12.000 The fact that, you know, it's not just Trump's success, it's the United States' success.
00:06:17.780 It's the world is a safer place today because we took out Iran's nuclear capabilities.
00:06:25.200 And that's something that they just can't admit to.
00:06:27.260 And, you know, it sounds like a reporter that perpetuated this story was the same reporter from CNN
00:06:33.360 that pushed the, you know, Hunter Biden story that, you know, his laptop had nothing to do.
00:06:39.060 It was the disinformation that went along with that whole story came from CNN.
00:06:43.400 So, you know, that's the thing about, you know, the sad state of affairs with the fake news
00:06:49.260 is that they just cannot report the news objectively.
00:06:53.700 And even if they want to be, you know, one-sided or the other,
00:06:57.040 when good things happen for America and happen for the world,
00:07:00.240 report it as such because we're a better, we're in a better situation today
00:07:04.740 because Iran's nuclear capability is destroyed.
00:07:07.740 You know what?
00:07:08.160 I totally understand kind of, you know, the aftermath, how much damage was done.
00:07:12.240 You know, did the bombs do their job?
00:07:15.380 You know, look at it.
00:07:16.440 But everybody, you know, even the international agencies that look at this stuff consistently
00:07:21.740 are saying that, yeah, there was a, the damage was done to the nuclear sites
00:07:26.680 and that they're going to be, it's going to be very hard for Iran to start up,
00:07:30.560 you know, their nuclear capabilities again at these particular sites.
00:07:33.980 But this is just, you know, fake news is normal.
00:07:36.200 And that's why the American people are tuning them out.
00:07:38.440 Well, it's, it's surprising to me too, as well, because I, I'm, I'm fairly opposed to U.S. intervention,
00:07:43.500 even just the airstrikes.
00:07:44.680 However, Trump seems to have navigated out of this with an end to the conflict altogether,
00:07:50.500 which even has many of the staunch anti-interventionist personalities kind of shrugging, saying he,
00:07:57.280 he kind of, he did it.
00:07:58.400 He was able to get off a military strike without expanding any war in the region.
00:08:03.320 And that's, that's what everybody really feared.
00:08:05.080 What, what I was really excited about with Trump's first term, of course, was the Abraham Accords,
00:08:10.360 as well as no new wars, which is why I was deeply concerned over these strikes in Iran.
00:08:14.940 But now it seems like this actually might pave the way for more peace in the region,
00:08:19.720 of which many have said Iran is the principal agitator stopping the Abraham Accords.
00:08:26.140 I'm wondering if you can tell us a bit about what's going on in that regard,
00:08:28.560 and if we're going to see more peace and economic normalization.
00:08:30.880 Yeah, no, well, and, you know, I would just, you know, mention this real quickly as well,
00:08:35.460 because Israel, of course, is there on the front lines next to Iran.
00:08:39.220 And so all of the intel was pointing to the fact that Iran did have nuclear capability.
00:08:44.960 They were close, they're very close to a bomb.
00:08:47.680 And if they had enriched uranium and they were able to put the bombs together,
00:08:51.960 they could produce almost nine bombs.
00:08:53.720 And Israel would have been the one that would have had to deal with it first,
00:08:59.540 because that's, there's no secret that Iran wants to annihilate and eliminate Israel.
00:09:04.600 And then, of course, you know, it's death to Israel and it's death to America.
00:09:07.760 Well, what Trump did is he used the sledgehammer.
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00:09:40.120 He didn't just come in with a hammer.
00:09:43.940 He used the sledgehammer and just took it out, took the threat out and mourned them.
00:09:49.380 He even negotiated with them.
00:09:50.520 He gave them numerous chances to say, look, put down your nuclear program and we can find peace.
00:09:56.720 And I think that one of the biggest moments in all of this that all of us should really remember outside of President Trump being willing to drop the bunker busters and take out the threat is when he pulls, you know, Iran and Israel leadership together and says and gets the ceasefire.
00:10:15.220 Well, the ceasefire didn't, it didn't sound like it was going to hold long.
00:10:17.980 And, you know, who does he call first when it looked like both sides were going to continue shooting at each other?
00:10:24.840 He calls Prime Minister Netanyahu and says, turn the planes around.
00:10:28.620 I just think that's a very historic moment.
00:10:31.380 And Prime Minister Netanyahu's respect for President Trump is so great that he turns the planes around, brings them back home, because in that moment it would have been easy to kind of say, we're going to go bomb them one more time.
00:10:44.300 And President Trump says, no, stop.
00:10:47.980 You know, turn around, bring them home.
00:10:50.000 No more of this stuff.
00:10:51.480 And I think that's what a leader does.
00:10:53.560 And he's saying, you know, stop fighting.
00:10:56.660 And we took care of the problem.
00:10:58.180 Netanyahu still got off one strike, though.
00:11:00.900 And so, you know, it's pretty middle of the road.
00:11:03.540 Netanyahu wanted to go ahead with many more strikes.
00:11:06.140 And when Trump said no, he attacked one radar facility.
00:11:09.760 I view that as that is somewhat petty.
00:11:13.280 You know, it felt to me like, you know, Trump pointed out Iran fired off one missile.
00:11:17.840 Maybe it was a mistake.
00:11:19.200 No, I think Iran was like, we get the last word in this.
00:11:22.000 And then Israel was like, no, we get the last word in this.
00:11:24.820 Which is why Trump ultimately said the kids are going to fight in the playground.
00:11:27.940 And then Netanyahu chief somewhat regrettably called him daddy.
00:11:30.580 I see a little bit of disrespect, but admittedly, turning around those planes, he knew he was
00:11:36.100 in a position where he couldn't defy Trump to a great degree and still got off one of
00:11:40.120 these strikes.
00:11:40.840 But I guess the bigger question then is, the Abraham Accords, it's tremendous history.
00:11:46.500 The economic normalization between Muslim nations and Israel.
00:11:50.160 Are we going to see that peace expand to other countries in the region?
00:11:55.320 Yes, I believe so.
00:11:56.640 In fact, I was in Syria over the Easter break a couple of months ago and then just recently
00:12:02.420 in Israel and had a lot of great conversations, met with the new president in Syria, President
00:12:08.300 al-Shara, and of course, met with Prime Minister Netanyahu and talked with other leaders.
00:12:14.240 There's a real opportunity there.
00:12:15.900 In fact, I'm excited.
00:12:17.080 I mean, I think that we're just on the cusp of there being some, you know, we've always
00:12:22.060 talked about peace in the Middle East.
00:12:23.760 There's always going to be differences.
00:12:24.860 There's going to be skirmishes, but broadly, you look at where Saudi Arabia is compared
00:12:29.720 to where they were a little over a decade ago.
00:12:32.640 I was in Saudi Arabia in 2014, was talking with their leadership, and this was still,
00:12:37.240 you know, 9-11 was in our rearview mirror, and we're not going to forget that.
00:12:41.960 And Saudi Arabia has changed and has done things differently than what they used to.
00:12:47.880 The UAE, that's the model, actually, I believe, because a couple of things.
00:12:52.640 They joined the Abraham Accords, and they don't teach hatred or killing Israeli or American
00:12:58.960 soldiers in their curriculum in their elementary schools, unlike what they do in the Palestinian
00:13:05.720 controlled areas.
00:13:07.100 And so I think those are the two pieces, Nate, that really need to be used to flush out these
00:13:11.760 countries, is are you willing to join the Abraham Accords, and what type of curriculum are you
00:13:16.480 teaching in your schools?
00:13:17.860 So when I was meeting with President Alshara, I was surprised how he, you know, he always
00:13:24.440 kind of watched their body language and how do they, you know, what excites them, what kind
00:13:29.080 of, when do they kind of pull back?
00:13:30.400 And I just sensed that from him, when he started talking about commerce and trade in the Middle
00:13:37.300 East, that's when he kind of got excited, because he talked about trade lines through
00:13:41.520 Syria, connecting the east to the west, talked about train lines, you know, putting in rail
00:13:47.520 lines, truck lines, and then also talked about tourism.
00:13:50.980 And, you know, the impact that tourism could have in Syria is incredible.
00:13:56.200 I mean, Damascus is one of the, you know, the holy cities for Christianity, and that
00:14:01.160 could have a huge impact.
00:14:02.300 If people could visit Jerusalem and then go to Damascus, that would be, you know, a huge
00:14:08.120 opportunity for people from around the world to travel there.
00:14:11.160 So I think that that's all part of bringing Syria to the table, and that President Alshara,
00:14:16.980 I felt like he genuinely wanted to go that direction.
00:14:20.000 I asked him specifically and told him, you know, the relationship with Israel is important
00:14:24.020 to the United States.
00:14:24.980 How does he, what's his vision of that relationship?
00:14:28.300 And I asked him directly, you know, would you be open to joining the Abraham Accords?
00:14:31.920 And he said that he would.
00:14:33.400 He said there was some negotiation that would have to take place.
00:14:36.440 Two of, the one thing that was really important to him, and I think it's a good priority for
00:14:40.860 him, is that he wants to keep Syria under a national flag, under a national banner as Syria.
00:14:46.720 He doesn't want it to be a sectarian government.
00:14:49.100 He doesn't want to have these divisions.
00:14:50.620 You know, the Kurds in the north, and the Druze in the southeast, and, you know, you've got
00:14:55.920 the Muslims in other parts of the country, the Christians, the Alawites.
00:14:59.060 And his goal is that everybody live together as Syrians, respecting one another.
00:15:04.860 And now he's got a big task.
00:15:06.400 But I'm optimistic.
00:15:07.520 Why, why don't we get this until Trump?
00:15:10.860 I don't understand.
00:15:13.360 Well, a couple of things.
00:15:15.700 I think that, you know, there is some reason to, you know, be rooting for Ukraine and for
00:15:22.540 the Ukrainian military to be able to keep Putin engaged long enough that it's weakened Putin.
00:15:29.540 So Putin couldn't run down to Syria and defend Assad.
00:15:34.020 And Assad's always counted on Putin to bail him out.
00:15:38.220 And that just ran out.
00:15:40.280 And so when al-Shara and his military, his militia, finally came down from Idlib to the
00:15:48.500 north and up by Turkey, they came down to Damascus.
00:15:52.140 Not a single fire was shot.
00:15:53.820 That's what's incredible, is that if you would have told all of us there would be a regime
00:15:56.820 change in Syria without a battle or some sort of war, I don't think any of us would have
00:16:01.320 believed it.
00:16:01.960 But President al-Shara was able to orchestrate all this, come down to Damascus.
00:16:07.360 Assad flees with his, you know, billions of dollars up to Russia, wherever he's at now.
00:16:11.420 And al-Shara and his government takes over.
00:16:13.820 So, you know, al-Shara has a checkered past, but he's the one that, you know, he got the
00:16:18.460 job done and pushed Assad out.
00:16:20.680 And I'm optimistic.
00:16:21.940 But I think it was, you know, some timing.
00:16:23.420 But also, I couldn't believe how much support and love in Syria there is for President Trump.
00:16:31.060 There were billboards in the streets of Damascus saying, you know, make Syria great again.
00:16:38.300 There was a sentiment, you know, that there was so much excitement that at that time that
00:16:43.920 maybe the United States would lift the sanctions on Syria.
00:16:47.380 And that would be a huge economic boom for Syria, which ultimately President Trump did
00:16:52.940 make that decision.
00:16:54.140 So I think it was timing, but it was also the leadership of President Trump that people
00:16:58.360 know he's going to stand up and fight for them.
00:17:01.080 He was the one that held off a bunch of the Russians and the Syrian military, Assad's military,
00:17:06.620 to go into Idlib back in 2018 and wipe out thousands of civilians, all in the name of going
00:17:13.860 after terrorists.
00:17:15.280 And President Trump put a stop to that.
00:17:17.020 And the civilians in Syria remember that.
00:17:19.040 It's pretty amazing to me.
00:17:21.240 I'm deeply critical of Obama's foreign policy.
00:17:25.180 I didn't support Trump in 2016.
00:17:26.820 But when he came in and I saw the actions he had been taking towards peace, when he crossed
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00:19:05.340 I know a lot of friends of mine are going to be very critical of U.S. involvement in Syria
00:19:09.860 and Ukraine.
00:19:11.280 Trump didn't start those.
00:19:12.740 In fact, it seems like he's trying as hard as he can to clean it all up.
00:19:16.860 Under his first term, the Abraham Accords, Joe Biden gets in.
00:19:20.820 You can say whatever you want about how he did.
00:19:22.400 I know a lot of people are pissed off.
00:19:23.520 And then we get war again.
00:19:25.000 Trump comes in.
00:19:25.960 And now we're starting to see peace again.
00:19:27.900 Which is why the Iran strikes were worrisome.
00:19:31.380 But it looks like Trump was able to get through that as well, ultimately resulting in a ceasefire
00:19:36.160 and with a nuclear de-escalation.
00:19:38.580 As much as those strikes give pause to those of us who are concerned about war,
00:19:43.620 I got to say Trump is the peace president.
00:19:46.100 You know, certainly we can criticize some of the things because you're never going to get someone who's perfect.
00:19:49.700 But this is some of the best foreign policy leadership, if not the best, period, I've seen in my lifetime.
00:19:57.060 I'm curious your thoughts, though.
00:19:58.600 In Congress, there's concern that he should be getting authorization before launching these strikes.
00:20:03.900 I know there's the War Power Resolution of 1973.
00:20:06.200 But ultimately, after so long, why did it take Donald Trump?
00:20:12.420 I don't understand why the old Republican Party or the Democratic Party weren't doing the things that he's doing now.
00:20:20.700 Well, that's a great question.
00:20:22.420 I think part of it goes back to, you know, even Senator Lindsey Graham posted, you know, game on when there was an attack from Israel to Iran.
00:20:34.340 And I think to him, that's something, I mean, something very different than probably what you and I believe it is.
00:20:38.720 This is not a game.
00:20:39.700 I mean, this is not something like, hey, we're going to cheer for a war here.
00:20:44.800 We shouldn't be cheering for war.
00:20:46.500 We should actually be cheering for peace.
00:20:48.300 And that's where I think the old neocon school of thought is peace through strength.
00:20:55.420 What President Trump has done is he's added something to that.
00:20:58.940 It's peace through strength and prosperity.
00:21:01.380 And that's where I believe people, if they have the opportunity to, you know, and again, this isn't going to be everybody, but in general, most civilizations, if you watch, look at the UAE.
00:21:14.380 That's a good example of it.
00:21:15.580 Look at Saudi Arabia.
00:21:16.500 Look at these countries that were undeveloped, you know, 50 years ago that have come a long way because of oil and other opportunities that they have, you know, shipping.
00:21:27.100 When there's commerce, there's not chaos, like President Trump said.
00:21:32.280 And when there's technology and there's a way to build, I think there's a part of all of us as human beings that we like to build.
00:21:39.600 Now, if there's an enemy and people, you know, they killed your father or they killed your family, there's always this back and forth and it's got to stop.
00:21:49.380 At some point, you've got to say, put it behind you.
00:21:51.940 I mean, you've just got to forgive the sins of the past if people can agree to that and start building, even if you don't have to be the best of friends, but you don't have to go attack one another.
00:22:00.280 One of the things that I think was really interesting, I was talking with the president of Kosovo a couple of weeks ago, and she's a young 40-something president of Kosovo.
00:22:11.140 And she said, and this goes all the way back to our U.S. policy under President Clinton, but it does kind of give us an idea, an example of what American policy can be and should be, is that, you know, Kosovo has been a war-torn country for years and years.
00:22:27.680 And she told me, she's very Trumpy, she said that she wants to join the European Union in Kosovo, but she has to dial the Trump talk down a little bit because, of course, Europe is not where they used to be.
00:22:40.720 And, you know, they're always looking to us to lead anyway, outside of Churchill, of course.
00:22:45.620 But she said that because of the United States, her young children are the first generation of Kosovoans in a thousand years who have not seen war.
00:22:55.600 And I think that's what shows all of us here in America, where we haven't, we don't see war on our streets like other countries do.
00:23:02.960 We have our issues, but we don't see what they see in Kosovo for thousands of years of just war and constantly.
00:23:09.640 They're now experiencing peace and people like it.
00:23:12.780 I even sense that in Syria with folks that they're so tired of war.
00:23:17.080 They're so tired of fighting.
00:23:18.580 They want to have peace.
00:23:20.180 I went to a Christian church.
00:23:22.100 They were telling me, you know what, we have no problem with our Muslim neighbors.
00:23:25.960 They're not attacking us.
00:23:27.220 We want to live together in just peace and respect for one another.
00:23:32.260 You know, that's what that's what grownups do.
00:23:34.040 We find a way, you know, we can agree to disagree, but we're not we don't have to shoot each other over it.
00:23:39.460 I'm excited to hear about the potential for the expansion of the Abraham Accords.
00:23:43.520 Now, taking it back home, many people who are just upset over the whole scenario with war are saying we need to get back to our domestic agenda and Trump should be focused on the big, beautiful bill migration.
00:23:56.860 I'm curious your thoughts on the current state of Trump's, you know, big, beautiful bill, as he's calling it, and what you think we should be focusing on here at home.
00:24:04.220 Yeah, you know, it's exciting.
00:24:06.720 I mean, the big, beautiful bill is really important to keep, you know, taxes from going up and grow this economy.
00:24:14.520 One of the things, you know, I come from the business world and I come from family business, farm, family, manufacturing, logistics.
00:24:22.880 We were in the restaurant business, so our family's covered a variety of sectors.
00:24:27.860 And I know how hard it is, especially going through COVID, what government did to small businesses and businesses across the country was devastating to people.
00:24:38.740 People lost their livelihoods because the government shut down the economy and then tried to pay them back some other way with, you know, government, with taxpayer money through the government, which wasn't the solution at all.
00:24:50.540 But this big, beautiful bill is going to extend the Trump tax cuts from 2018, make them permanent.
00:24:56.400 It's going to really focus on growth, and that's how we're going to get out of our debt and our deficits.
00:25:02.380 I'm a budget hawk, and one thing that I believe, the greatest threat to the United States is our debt and deficits.
00:25:08.700 $36 trillion of debt, you throw interest on top of that, we're paying about a trillion dollars a year in debt service on our debt.
00:25:17.380 That's equal to our military, and we're spending more on our military than we ever have.
00:25:21.640 But Washington just doesn't seem to have any appetite to cut spending.
00:25:26.900 And that's where President Trump, Elon Musk, the Doge team did a huge service to not only the American people, but actually did a huge service to Congress.
00:25:36.040 I was actually in a meeting yesterday with Speaker Mike Johnson, and he was saying the same thing that we've all, a lot of us have experienced.
00:25:43.700 We're trying to find out where is the money going, and when you write these agencies and ask where is the money going, they tell you what they want you to hear.
00:25:52.780 They don't tell you the truth.
00:25:54.540 And what the Doge team has done and what the Trump administration has done is actually going right to the Treasury.
00:26:00.680 A billion dollars an hour is what leaves the Treasury.
00:26:04.100 And that's a number that we can't even imagine.
00:26:08.160 But if you think about it, a billion dollars an hour, if somebody figured out a way to get into the Treasury to get payments for some sort of contract in the past, and the Treasury keeps making payments on it, do you think they call them up and say, hey, you don't have to send us that money anymore?
00:26:23.040 Stuff like that happens.
00:26:24.160 It's sloppiness.
00:26:25.560 It's irresponsible.
00:26:26.660 And I think that that's what the Doge team and what the Trump team are doing to focus on getting spending under control.
00:26:33.540 But we've got to grow this economy as well.
00:26:35.700 There was one of the stories during the Doge arc, I'd call it, when Elon was in there, where it was like a single page demanding the Treasury pay like a billion dollars.
00:26:44.080 And they were like, what is this?
00:26:45.800 And it was like an invoice for a billion dollars, and nobody knew what it was.
00:26:48.900 And they're like, let's just not pay it.
00:26:50.960 And there's tons of those.
00:26:52.100 It reminds me of, like, you know, I've known people like this, I'm sure a lot do.
00:26:57.240 Their parents or their grandparents were rich, and they're in college, and they got a credit card.
00:27:01.120 And they're like, I don't know, shrug?
00:27:02.840 Who wants expensive drinks?
00:27:04.400 And they just spend money.
00:27:05.380 They have no idea where it comes from.
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00:27:21.080 They have no idea how it was earned, and we effectively have that in government now.
00:27:27.080 There is a concern.
00:27:28.180 I think the big concern Rhett Massey as well as Senator Rand Paul have is that the big, beautiful bill still does add to the deficit, at least on the surface.
00:27:37.960 There's an argument that if we actually deal with the issues of immigration and implement some of what's in the bill, our costs will go down in other areas.
00:27:47.060 I'm curious if you think that's correct or how you view it.
00:27:49.640 It is.
00:27:51.120 And Rand and Thomas are great friends of mine.
00:27:54.500 And they're not wrong in the sense that, you know, but here's the difference.
00:28:00.060 And this is Washington's math.
00:28:01.780 This is the way Washington looks at it.
00:28:03.260 So they say if you cut taxes, it's less revenue to the government.
00:28:08.620 So therefore, that's a cost.
00:28:10.420 They call that even spending, which, you know, we've even fallen into that narrative and said, oh, if you cut taxes, you're spending money.
00:28:18.480 Well, no, the government is losing that money.
00:28:21.260 The government's not going to get that revenue from those taxes.
00:28:24.320 But because of the way Congressional Budget Office scores our bills, you know, keeping the tax cuts in place, they're calling that like a trillion-dollar spend.
00:28:35.400 Well, it's not.
00:28:36.160 It's just foregoing that money.
00:28:37.620 Here's an interesting, important fact as well.
00:28:42.020 Because we have hovered around 2.5% GDP growth, even down, we're pushing down towards the 2% mark during the Obama years.
00:28:51.220 For every percent GDP that we lose, that's a trillion dollars in revenue.
00:28:55.760 So because we have fallen away from the 3% GDP growth that we've been used to for so long as a country, that's where a lot of the revenue has been lost.
00:29:06.780 You know, spending is still out of control.
00:29:08.360 There's still spending to cut and reforms to be made.
00:29:11.480 But that's why it's important to have a growing economy so that way there is tax revenue.
00:29:16.640 But at the same time, in the big, beautiful bill, the only spending that's in there that is like cash going out from the Treasury is for defense and for the border.
00:29:28.940 All of the others is basically just eliminating, you know, keeping the tax cuts low and then also the EV tax credits.
00:29:36.460 You know, those are going away.
00:29:37.540 So they all count those as expenditures.
00:29:39.980 And it's the different ideology between how the left looks at economics and how the right looks at economics.
00:29:45.020 I love me some tax cuts.
00:29:46.600 I think it's a good direction.
00:29:48.180 I always leave money with the American taxpayer.
00:29:50.500 Absolutely.
00:29:50.940 We got a little bit of time.
00:29:51.880 So I'm curious your thoughts.
00:29:53.520 Obviously, the big story of the past couple days outside of Iran was Zoran Mamdani's victory in New York City.
00:30:01.720 He's an avowed socialist.
00:30:03.700 And this is the younger generation that helped him win.
00:30:06.720 I'm curious what you think is going to happen in the midterms because the prediction made by many of these leftists is
00:30:11.760 leftism defeats establishment, democratic policy or, you know, campaigning.
00:30:18.620 What do you think is going to happen in the midterms?
00:30:20.120 Do you think we're going to see a big socialist push from new candidates or do you think they just, you know, what happens?
00:30:26.060 That's a great question.
00:30:27.280 And, you know, one that's scary, frankly, because you look at, you know, historically, the president's party loses.
00:30:35.500 I think it's only happened twice where the president's party actually maintained the majority in the House.
00:30:42.420 I was part of the first Tea Party wave back in 2010.
00:30:46.520 Of course, that was President Obama's first midterm.
00:30:49.880 And he loses badly because of Obamacare.
00:30:52.140 But I'm optimistic.
00:30:55.760 There's a lot of sense of optimism because the Democrat Party hasn't necessarily learned from their losses and why President Trump won.
00:31:03.500 And I think that, you know, they've been doubling down on the policies that they were telling the American people are so great.
00:31:10.260 I mean, I was chairing the floor earlier today and I couldn't believe, again, how many Democrats were coming to the floor talking about defending illegal immigrants.
00:31:19.640 I mean, this is one that us as American people, we're like, you know what, why don't you start defending the legal people that are here rather than defending the illegals that came over here illegally.
00:31:31.040 And so I think that the Democrats continue to double down on these very unpopular positions.
00:31:37.560 They have taught socialism to a lot of their children over time.
00:31:43.020 And it's scary to think that that's where New York City's at.
00:31:45.960 I mean, how many years ago was it that, you know, we had even Bloomberg was at least somewhat of a free market sort of a, you know, person with ideas.
00:31:56.360 But, you know, since Rudy Giuliani, we've gone far, far left.
00:32:00.740 And I think that's where our big cities, Nate, I really truly believe that New York, the state of New York and the state of California and the state of Illinois are the biggest, you know, hurt to the federal government because they continue to take and take.
00:32:14.980 California's reimbursements just on Medicaid alone is about one hundred and sixty billion dollars a year.
00:32:21.760 That's larger than the entire state budget of Florida.
00:32:25.140 These states continue to take more and more and give to illegals.
00:32:28.020 And I think it's going to come back to haunt them in the primary or in the next election.
00:32:31.240 And that was that was the big thing with the salt deductions.
00:32:33.140 Basically, these blue states get it free because they pay less in federal taxes.
00:32:36.680 They pay more to themselves.
00:32:37.600 But there is still some speculation that this Mamdani guy might lose because you'll get a moderate and Republican coalition against them.
00:32:47.040 I'm not entirely sure, but I think the takeaway from it is the younger generation of left leaning Americans are socialists or communists.
00:32:55.440 And that's going to have an effect across the country.
00:32:57.980 Now, with the issue of the midterms, I'm wondering if, you know, you mentioned correctly, historically, the president's party loses the midterms.
00:33:06.220 But, man, if they keep taking these 80-20 issues and going on the wrong side, like defending illegal immigrants, they might break the trend.
00:33:15.000 So I suppose we'll see.
00:33:18.000 Any quick final thoughts before we take off?
00:33:20.560 I think it's possible.
00:33:22.020 And, you know, I'll say this one other thing.
00:33:23.860 You know, we talked about this a little earlier with the Middle East and the curriculum that's taught in the Middle East.
00:33:29.000 It's the same fight that we have here at home.
00:33:31.520 We need to make sure that our curriculum across the country and across the schools, school districts in the United States, is teaching curriculum that teaches American values rather than teaching socialism, that socialism is somehow a good form of government.
00:33:45.560 AOC, if she becomes the face of the Democrat Party, I think they'll be in the wilderness for the next 40 years.
00:33:51.520 Right on.
00:33:52.300 Well, Congressman, thank you so much for joining me.
00:33:54.020 Is there somewhere people can find more from you?
00:33:55.600 Yeah, check us out on all of the social media platforms at Rep Stutzman is our handle on all of those, at Rep Stutzman.
00:34:04.740 Love for people to check us out, engage, and you know what?
00:34:07.540 We've got to keep fighting to make America great again.
00:34:10.300 Right on.
00:34:10.900 Well, thanks so much for hanging out.
00:34:12.320 We'll see you next time.
00:34:13.540 Great to see you.
00:34:14.120 Thanks.
00:34:14.460 Take care.
00:34:17.240 All right.
00:34:18.620 That was Congressman Stutzman.
00:34:21.380 Very cool.
00:34:21.920 He, man, he's been all over.
00:34:25.180 He's been all over the Middle East.
00:34:26.640 And, you know, when we're doing the preps for interviews and we're trying to figure out who the guest for the morning show is going to be, they came and they said he's working on the Abraham Accords, which I think is one of the most exciting, tremendous successes of Trump's first term and history.
00:34:44.200 Trump set himself up with this insane task of bringing peace to the Middle East, which is considered to be a meme.
00:34:54.000 And Trump was like, I'm going to do it.
00:34:55.440 And he's trying so hard.
00:34:57.480 And bless him for it.
00:35:00.100 I hope he pulls it off, man.
00:35:02.280 I really do.
00:35:03.640 If, you know, I'm thinking about it as Stutzman's talking about Ukraine, pushing back on Russia and all those things.
00:35:09.820 And I'm like, I don't like any of this.
00:35:11.760 I don't like the U.S. involvement in Ukraine.
00:35:13.120 You guys know it.
00:35:14.180 I don't like the U.S. involvement in Syria.
00:35:15.820 Y'all know it.
00:35:17.160 But Trump didn't start those things.
00:35:19.160 They were started before him and technically in between.
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00:36:17.060 Trump's working as hard as he can to solve this.
00:36:21.960 And I'm loving it.
00:36:23.780 I'm not a fan of how Syria fell apart.
00:36:26.540 U.S. propaganda efforts, Qatar Turkey Pipeline and all that.
00:36:29.580 But what matters right now is are we going to get peace?
00:36:31.680 And if they've got a new government and that new government wants normalization, commerce, train, you know, train, railroads and all that stuff, man, we really have an opportunity for this generation to bring about something awesome.
00:36:45.980 And think about how they insulted and demean and lie about Trump every single day.
00:36:51.600 Remarkably, Donald Trump does something that I don't like with this strike on Iran.
00:36:56.480 But afterwards, he stabilizes a ceasefire, at least so far.
00:37:03.420 And the remarkable thing is, if Trump is able to pull that off, denuclearizing Iran, at least for a few years, without creating a war, even with my concerns and criticism, it is the best foreign policy ever performed in my lifetime.
00:37:20.220 No new exacerbated conflict in the Middle East.
00:37:24.820 So I'm feeling pretty good.
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