The Culture War - Tim Pool - Trump GOES OFF After Israel VIOLATES CEASEFIRE, Dave Smith Slams Trump BETRAYAL ft. Dave Smith

00:00:00.000 From the Financial Times, Israel-Iran latest fragile truce appears to take hold after Trump rebukes Israel and Iran.

00:00:10.060 The U.S. president has accused both sides of violating the ceasefire.

00:00:13.640 And the latest update is Trump warned Israel not to drop the bombs.

00:00:18.560 They went and did it anyway.

00:00:20.340 And the Financial Times acknowledges that even after Trump said, don't do it,

00:00:25.980 they say a truce brokered by the U.S. president went into effect on Tuesday morning.

00:00:28.920 But Israel swiftly claimed it had been broken by Tehran and struck an Iranian radar station.

00:00:34.100 However, it said that after a conversation between Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu,

00:00:39.120 it would refrain from further attacks.

00:00:42.400 Trump posted, don't do it.

00:00:45.080 Israel did it. 0.99

00:00:46.540 I think this is this game where they're basically saying, I will have the last word in this regard.

00:00:52.280 And Trump is trying to get them to back off and stop.

00:00:54.620 It was a real smack in the face to Trump that Israel bombed this radar station, despite the fact Trump said, don't do it.

00:01:01.500 It was an hour and a half before the news was reported.

00:01:04.840 So there had to be time to call it off.

00:01:07.020 That being said, Trump, I think, being the adult in the room, likely said to Israel, just stop.

00:01:14.040 Iran, don't retaliate.

00:01:15.240 But support right now.

00:01:18.520 I mean, I think I actually have the this from CNN.

00:01:21.320 A majority of Americans disapprove of Trump's Iran airstrikes.

00:01:25.080 CNN poll finds.

00:01:26.620 Now, it's hard to know exactly where Trump's polling stands.

00:01:29.640 In the past week, he's had tremendous polling.

00:01:32.540 Insider advantage has Trump up 10.

00:01:35.480 Trafalgar up nine.

00:01:37.200 And Rasmussen up five.

00:01:39.120 Now, over the period of the bombing, Reuters, Ipsos has him at minus 16.

00:01:42.500 But let me just track the the previous Reuters, Ipsos, which had a minus 12, meaning a four point swing in the negative.

00:01:50.760 It's hard to know exactly how this will affect Trump's approval rating.

00:01:53.420 But we're going to be joined by Dave Smith, who's been particularly prominent on this issue.

00:02:00.620 Despite the fact that he is a comedian, he certainly has a lot to say about this, as he is entitled to.

00:02:05.500 So let's we're going to pull this in, loading up the the the live player now.

00:02:12.400 And we should be good to go.

00:02:14.600 Dave, you there?

00:02:17.120 What's up, brother?

00:02:18.360 How's it going?

00:02:19.640 Can you can hear me?

00:02:20.740 See me?

00:02:21.700 I hear you and see you.

00:02:22.920 How are you, sir?

00:02:24.040 Pretty good.

00:02:24.860 Pretty good.

00:02:25.260 I'm curious how you are.

00:02:26.860 How do you feel about this ceasefire?

00:02:29.140 Well, I mean, it's it's wonderful.

00:02:33.840 You know, it's it's kind of hard to say what's going to happen right now.

00:02:37.620 It's been a wild.

00:02:38.840 I mean, I got to say that the last week has probably been up there with the wildest weeks since me and you have been covering politics.

00:02:46.220 And, you know, it's it's hard to say because Donald Trump has signaled almost everything over the last week.

00:02:53.660 And so he's talking about evacuating Tehran and regime change a few days ago.

00:02:58.260 Now he seems to be signaling.

00:03:00.320 He seems to have taken the off ramp or desires to take the off ramp that essentially the Iranians allowed by doing what they did after Soleimani was struck again by striking back. 0.62

00:03:13.120 But not really striking back and giving America advanced warning and making sure, you know, essentially Iran is in this obvious position where they're like, we can't look like we're doing nothing in response to this to our own people. 0.87

00:03:24.160 But we really, really don't want it.

00:03:26.360 We don't want to fight for obvious reasons.

00:03:29.420 And so Donald Trump wants to be taking this off ramp.

00:03:32.280 Now he seems to be frustrated with that Benjamin Netanyahu.

00:03:34.660 And many of the Hawks never wanted an off ramp.

00:03:37.020 And as you know, well, this has always been about regime change for them.

00:03:40.480 So I would be thrilled if this is the end of it.

00:03:45.080 But at the same time, I do think it's a moment.

00:03:48.400 Like, let's just say this sticks and this is the end of the immediate conflict right now.

00:03:52.340 It is a moment for Americans to kind of reevaluate a lot of things here.

00:03:57.140 Because, number one, I think that the Hawks' foundational claim to this entire issue, which I would argue is every bit as phony as their claims for all of the other wars in the last 25 years.

00:04:14.320 But the foundational claim about Iran has been that, like, Iran cannot be allowed to get a nuclear weapon.

00:04:20.400 And this is something, obviously, that Donald Trump has bought into very much, too.

00:04:24.380 But this claim kind of relies on an argument that Iran is so uniquely crazy and evil that if they got a nuclear weapon, they'll just use it. 0.87

00:04:33.500 They'll just nuke it. 1.00

00:04:34.620 Now forget the fact that they're not pursuing a nuclear weapon.

00:04:36.740 They don't have a nuclear weapon.

00:04:37.980 They don't have the capability to deliver one if they were to get one.

00:04:41.740 But it's like, I mean, Tim, a lot of really bad people have gotten nuclear weapons in history.

00:04:47.460 Joseph Stalin got nuclear weapons.

00:04:49.320 Mao Zedong got nuclear weapons.

00:04:51.160 Right now, you know, Putin and Xi and a lot of bad people have nuclear weapons.

00:04:56.960 And the idea that Iran is so uniquely evil because they just don't care about their own survival, that claim seems to really be falling apart.

00:05:05.460 I mean, Iran, if Iran wanted to, they could have killed a lot more people. 0.96

00:05:08.880 And they didn't for the reason that they do care about their self-preservation.

00:05:12.160 They would much rather rule their country than be violently deposed.

00:05:15.460 Well, let me ask you this.

00:05:16.480 You said that they wouldn't be able to get a nuclear weapon.

00:05:19.820 But I think the U.S. has stated that they were weeks away from being able to produce one.

00:05:23.820 Do you think that's not correct?

00:05:25.520 Oh, it's I mean, look, I think this is totally phony.

00:05:28.580 I mean, all look, all of the intelligence, all of the intelligence until the day after Israel started bombing them was that there are nowhere.

00:05:37.700 And even Benjamin Netanyahu, who is the most, you know, has the longest track record of predicting how close Iran is to a nuclear weapon and is always wrong.

00:05:47.380 He said in his interview with Brett Baier, maybe a year, maybe 13 months.

00:05:51.400 Then all of a sudden, the next day, Tulsi Gabbard comes out and completely contradicts her testimony and the DNI annual threat assessment that both said that Iran does not have nuclear weapons and is not pursuing nuclear weapons.

00:06:03.260 So, yes, I think that was what did she say specifically?

00:06:07.740 Something they could be weeks, no intelligence report or anything like that, but that they could be weeks away from getting a nuclear weapon.

00:06:15.460 The fact is that this is going nuclear and the best person at breaking this down, of course, is Scott Horton.

00:06:23.100 But this is something there was a focus group test in 1990 where they decided that, like, you know, the whole like the whole idea of going in there to, like, liberate people, like like using that as a justification for for war.

00:06:37.140 Or, you know, we got to drive Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait to put the king back in power.

00:06:43.420 That didn't really resonate with the American people.

00:06:45.560 But the nuclear threat always did.

00:06:47.900 And it's not a coincidence that that threat has been used both in the war in Iraq and in the propaganda for this war.

00:06:54.220 But listen, so Muammar Gaddafi got rid of his nuclear program and they still went in and overthrew him.

00:06:59.540 That's never really what this has been about.

00:07:01.240 And as I bring up all the time, whether you look at the clean break doctrine or you look at Wesley General Wesley Clark's comments about the seven countries in five years, the game here has always been to have regime change against all of the the states that are hostile to Israel.

00:07:17.920 That's been what these guys have been fighting for forever.

00:07:20.520 And I just think it's it's a real moment for Americans to wake up and go, look, what did we just do?

00:07:25.520 We just we just launched a war against a country that hadn't attacked us, that hadn't that wasn't an imminent threat that did that is not poses no real threat to the United States of America.

00:07:37.780 And we did it.

00:07:38.880 And then when when our president, after blundering and getting us into this mess, makes the heroic decision to end the thing, what does Netanyahu do? 0.67

00:07:49.940 He he tries to get it going again.

00:07:51.980 I mean, like, why why would we put ourselves in this position where we're we're allowing a country to constantly be pressuring us into another war that almost everybody knows would be a catastrophe if we were to go through?

00:08:06.320 Like, does anyone not think that Benjamin Netanyahu wants us to continue this war and have a regime change there?

00:08:12.820 Who thinks that would work out well?

00:08:14.700 He certainly does.

00:08:16.420 There's been a couple of polls that I've read that show the majority of Americans oppose the strikes on Iran.

00:08:20.740 Even among Trump, among the Republican Party, there is a higher rate of disapproval for the strikes than general disapproval for Trump.

00:08:28.360 But you mentioned Muammar Gaddafi.

00:08:30.980 And one of the arguments I heard as to why Iran does want to enrich uranium and does want to produce a nuke is because Gaddafi agrees to give up his nukes and they go in and they kill him.

00:08:40.820 And so the argument then is the Iranians are like, your word means nothing.

00:08:44.400 If we abandon our efforts, you're going to come in for regime change.

00:08:49.020 So it actually what I think a lot of people made the argument and it makes sense.

00:08:53.280 They were pursuing this because of the threat of regime change.

00:08:56.460 Well, we're certainly our actions both in Libya and now just our actions over the last week do nothing but incentivize them to want to get a nuclear weapon, which is, you know, when you think about it, it's just like the most counter. 0.81

00:09:10.240 Isn't that government for you, Tim?

00:09:12.000 You know, like a stated problem.

00:09:13.260 And then you pursue the policy that is most likely to make this a self-fulfilling prophecy or something like that.

00:09:20.140 But at least where we were before the war and now we'll have to see, you know, a lot of this depends on what happens next.

00:09:26.580 But at least before the war, what Iran was trying to do was to negotiate America back into the JCPOA. 0.60

00:09:34.460 And if and it was Donald Trump who allowed the hawks to put the poison pill in the negotiations that they had to give up all your all enrichment and their civilian nuclear program, which is something they just weren't going to do and isn't really a very reasonable ask.

00:09:49.440 But we look, they have an inspections regime that's inspecting the nuclear sites there and around.

00:09:54.020 And so, look, it just seems to me that what they wanted, the most reasonable explanation is that they wanted to have essentially a latent nuclear deterrent.

00:10:03.280 And then they wanted to have a negotiated, a negotiation chip in the negotiations.

00:10:09.040 So they wanted to have something that they could negotiate away in exchange for reducing sanctions or something like that.

00:10:15.020 So this morning I wake up to Donald Trump dropping an F-bomb over Israel and Iran, violating the ceasefire.

00:10:22.580 But Trump was actually much more stern with Israel, saying that the moment they announced this, Israel goes and drops bombs, the likes of which he's never seen.

00:10:31.380 Iran fires one rocket that hits nothing. 0.56

00:10:33.940 And now Israel is prepared to do this launch.

00:10:36.540 He said he's very upset with them.

00:10:38.360 He posted on Truth, do not do it.

00:10:40.760 An hour and a half later, it was reported that Israel did strike a radar station in Iran, seemingly in defiance of what Trump instructed them to do.

00:10:49.720 I don't I'm curious what you think.

00:10:53.480 Trump, how will Trump react to this?

00:10:55.400 Is he going to try and pull the OK, I'm yeah, Netanyahu kind of just spat in my face, but I don't want this war to break out.

00:11:03.280 Or does he hold a grudge against Israel for basically spitting in his face?

00:11:07.680 Well, you know, I what Donald Trump has already put up with from Netanyahu and still just been his number one supporter is pretty remarkable.

00:11:18.920 I mean, Netanyahu, as you remember well, Tim, came out and stabbed Donald Trump in the back after the 2020 election.

00:11:25.780 After Donald Trump had done everything for Netanyahu, everything, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, getting us out of the JCPOA, of course, because we could have avoided this entire thing.

00:11:36.500 But for Netanyahu, Donald Trump decided to pull out of it.

00:11:39.620 And you remember back in real quick, the JCPOA, that's the Iranian nuclear deal.

00:11:43.340 That's the Iran nuclear deal that that Obama got us into with is with the Europeans and the Iranians.

00:11:49.320 And Donald Trump, if you remember, this was Donald Trump really upset the Hawks in 2016 when he had he had.

00:11:57.700 I forget exactly what he said, but this is when Donald Trump was very new, when he first started running for president.

00:12:02.000 And people asked him, how does he feel?

00:12:03.600 Someone asked him, like, how does he feel about Israel, Palestine?

00:12:05.760 And he said, we should be neutral and we should stay out of it.

00:12:09.180 And that is, you know, to to Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro, that's basically like saying Adolf Hitler was a great guy and we should do what he said all over again. 0.81

00:12:18.180 Like, it's like the worst thing you could say.

00:12:19.920 They're going to clip you for saying that.

00:12:21.780 Yeah, well, probably.

00:12:23.400 But and then Donald Trump, being the savvy businessman and politician that he is, he went and gave a speech at AIPAC.

00:12:30.980 And the first thing he said to AIPAC was, I will get us out of the Iran deal.

00:12:35.040 The Iran deal is the worst deal that's ever been made.

00:12:37.260 And they loved it.

00:12:37.860 Anyway, he did everything for them.

00:12:39.620 And then Benjamin Netanyahu, Benjamin Netanyahu congratulated Joe Biden on winning the presidential election before our media was even calling the election.

00:12:48.180 For Joe Biden, when it was still very contested before the court cases, before any of that.

00:12:53.020 And so I don't know.

00:12:55.120 Will Donald Trump take this?

00:12:56.540 It seems to me I've seen a long track record of Israel being this country that is essentially America's welfare mom. 0.99

00:13:05.560 We support them in everything they do.

00:13:07.220 They always turn to us.

00:13:08.520 They always talk a big game, how they can do it all on their own.

00:13:10.860 And then, oh, they actually can't.

00:13:12.020 If you remember, Tim, way, way, way, way back 72 hours ago, everybody on Twitter, all the hawks were lecturing me about how Israel doesn't even need America's help.

00:13:23.580 Israel's doing this all on their own. 1.00

00:13:25.320 All they need you to do is just lob down, shoot down some missiles when they're lobbed back in their direction.

00:13:29.860 But America's staying out of it. 1.00

00:13:31.660 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:13:32.200 But it turns out, actually, they can't do that.

00:13:34.060 They couldn't they couldn't keep their war in Gaza, their destruction of Gaza going for another two months without Americans supplying the munitions and intelligence.

00:13:42.760 So the thing is, they they always rely on us and then they spit in the faces of the American presidents and every single one of them just takes it and keeps moving forward and keep supporting them.

00:13:54.160 And so I don't know.

00:13:54.840 Trump is a different animal.

00:13:56.160 Yeah, that that the clip you're talking about was the angriest I've ever seen him at Israel at anybody. 0.99

00:14:03.780 So, you know, we we will see.

00:14:05.480 Well, I mean, it wasn't quite what he did to Zelensky, but it was it was pretty angry.

00:14:10.040 I could you know, there's an argument on the Zelensky thing, but to to he's being asked by these reporters and you can tell the moment where he just he broke and he said, you know what?

00:14:22.600 We've got two countries and he says, I don't thought they're doing.

00:14:26.500 Wow.

00:14:27.180 I mean, the story is the expletive of Trump.

00:14:29.780 I actually see I'm actually kind of happy right now, to be honest.

00:14:34.880 I'm not a fan of U.S. intervention in foreign countries because you are dropping a match onto a powder keg.

00:14:40.880 You can make all the arguments for look, I if they when they come out and they say that there's 60 percent enriched uranium can be used for dirty bombs.

00:14:49.440 It can be used for weapons, all that stuff.

00:14:50.620 I say, OK, that's bad.

00:14:52.060 I don't know that's a justification for the U.S. potentially triggering a complete destabilization of the region.

00:14:57.640 U.S. boots on the ground.

00:14:58.700 You may be talking about a cure that's worse than the disease.

00:15:01.660 That being said, if the ceasefire holds and now Trump has a grudge against Netanyahu and this and this puts a barrier between the U.S. relations with Israel in such a way that Trump is basically like you've betrayed us too many times.

00:15:17.800 Not you know, I know a lot of people are going to take that one too seriously. 0.51

00:15:20.920 No, I mean, like Trump's going to have a personal grudge over Netanyahu dropping a bomb when he said not to do it, putting him at risk and making him look like a chump. 0.84

00:15:28.360 Now, this could actually hopefully bring Trump back to a place where he's like, I don't want to be involved in their problems anymore because they're going to screw us over.

00:15:36.480 This was a mistake.

00:15:37.800 And hopefully it turns out, OK, we get rid of their nuclear program. 0.85

00:15:42.600 Now, Trump doesn't want to listen to Netanyahu anymore because his word isn't worth it.

00:15:46.120 And it removes us from these regional conflicts potentially.

00:15:50.600 Well, I mean, that would be the best case scenario.

00:15:53.100 And yeah, sure.

00:15:54.000 I hope I hope that's what what comes of all of this.

00:15:56.740 The you know, the reason why I'm kind of skeptical about that is that look, don't I mean, Donald Trump just you can call it the 12 day war.

00:16:07.280 And if it ends at 12 days, that's great.

00:16:09.720 But he just launched a war of aggression on behalf of a foreign country that literally I hope everybody really appreciates this. 1.00

00:16:17.420 This is a tremendous irony of this whole situation is that what stopped this from being a catastrophe was Iranian restraint around shows not to kill Americans. 0.79

00:16:30.060 Like that's he put the he put American soldiers in that position where it was the decision of the Iranians to give advance notice so that we could clear people out of there and didn't kill people.

00:16:41.440 But, you know, Israelis died in this thing and civilians, Israeli civilians died in this thing.

00:16:47.860 Iranians died in this thing. 0.99

00:16:49.480 This was horrible and didn't need to happen.

00:16:51.900 And so, look, maybe that is the outcome of all of this.

00:16:55.160 But Donald Trump could have just done that without launching this war.

00:16:58.180 He could have just said, hey, we're not participating in any more of your wars.

00:17:01.720 This is not our problem.

00:17:03.100 And it's not even look, obviously, like as you've known me for years, Tim, like I'm a real non interventionist and I have a very strict standard for when I think war is morally acceptable.

00:17:15.300 But even if you were going to argue like for a war of choice, for a preemptive, aggressive war of choice right now, we are thirty seven trillion dollars in debt.

00:17:29.080 We have major issues in our problems.

00:17:31.320 Something how many illegal entries did we have to the country in the last administration?

00:17:36.600 None of us really know.

00:17:37.980 Maybe 10 million.

00:17:39.040 We don't really know how many people came in under Joe Biden.

00:17:41.460 And now Donald Trump is trying to, in the weeks leading up to this, trying to implement his number one policy priority, which is deportations.

00:17:50.460 There are protests in the streets against him.

00:17:52.520 He needs all the political capital he can for that.

00:17:54.980 We've got 100,000 plus ODs every year.

00:17:58.440 We have major, major problems.

00:18:00.360 Almost every city in this country is falling apart.

00:18:02.800 And so to now, at this point, choose to get involved in this when he could have just said all along, no, we're not doing this.

00:18:10.420 We will fight a war if we are legitimately threatened, not for other nations. 0.65

00:18:15.480 I will be very, very, I hope I'm wrong.

00:18:18.780 And that my fear was, you know, Iran's going to mind the Strait of Hormuz. 0.99

00:18:23.700 They're going to retaliate.

00:18:25.140 They're going to say we won't surrender.

00:18:26.780 You know, I wouldn't give Iran the credit I think you're giving them when you say they chose, you know, to give us advanced warning. 0.99

00:18:33.320 I think the reality is Trump's not a man you play chicken with.

00:18:36.400 He's pissed.

00:18:37.920 And so Iran's basically saying we don't want to go to war.

00:18:40.880 And they're basically like they're backing off.

00:18:43.960 Well, but I agree with that.

00:18:45.560 I mean, look, Iran is it's not just that it's Donald Trump, but I'm sure it's also that is a big part of it.

00:18:51.460 But the U.S. government, it's funny because the Hawks always talk about like the threats or the chance.

00:18:58.540 They chant death to America or something like that.

00:19:01.100 Like we've got to go deal about that.

00:19:02.480 We've got to start a war based off chance.

00:19:04.140 They're doing that in California, too.

00:19:06.340 Yeah, right, right.

00:19:07.220 But like let's all I'm saying here is like let's have an objective standard and look at both sides and hold them to the same standard.

00:19:15.300 OK, so they chant things.

00:19:16.840 The U.S. government, after putting Iran on the axis of evil after 9-11, even though they had nothing to do with 9-11, we invaded their two neighboring countries, like the two countries that touch Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan. 0.71

00:19:32.400 If you could picture the map in your head on either side of Iran, we invaded and destroyed both of those countries. 1.00

00:19:38.760 They know who they're messing with here.

00:19:40.320 They know.

00:19:40.780 And of course, and this is my point, they don't want it. 0.61

00:19:43.780 Just like all of the as as evil as all of these people. 0.99

00:19:46.680 Look, Mao Zedong is the worst human being who ever lived. 0.99

00:19:48.920 He killed more people than anybody else. 0.98

00:19:50.240 But he wasn't just going to launch a nuke at somebody because he wanted to rule.

00:19:54.300 He didn't want to be destroyed.

00:19:55.800 And he knows if he launches a nuke, nukes are flying back at him.

00:19:58.740 The point is that the Iranians actually, while they are a theocratic, repressive government, do not appear to be suicidal. 0.83

00:20:07.200 And if they were suicidal, they could have killed a bunch of Americans. 0.93

00:20:11.080 And yes, then they probably probably Donald Trump. 0.93

00:20:13.800 I mean, look, this is this is the risk that Donald Trump put us in, though.

00:20:16.360 Like, let's say they were suicidal or let's say they just went for it and they did just kill.

00:20:20.560 But what do you think, as you just pointed out, what would Donald Trump's response have been to that?

00:20:25.140 I mean, I don't think there's.

00:20:26.620 Yeah, that's right.

00:20:27.660 And what would it take to have a regime change?

00:20:29.800 You know, back in in the 90s, when we invaded Iraq the first time, we invaded the country and still didn't get a regime change.

00:20:36.920 And now, true, that was that was because they backed off.

00:20:39.140 But the point is that the regime withstood an invasion.

00:20:42.200 Iran is a much stronger, much bigger country.

00:20:44.520 We would have needed to send the 82nd Airborne in if that had happened.

00:20:48.820 And so it's just like the I hope people appreciate the catastrophe that we just flirted with.

00:20:55.640 Like this would have been probably a much tougher war than Iraq or Afghanistan.

00:21:01.700 We could have gotten ourselves into another 20 year catastrophic quagmire.

00:21:05.720 Thank God we didn't.

00:21:07.060 Did you vote for Trump?

00:21:08.620 I did.

00:21:09.760 Do you regret it?

00:21:10.500 You know, you know, a lot of people made a big deal that I did say that I regretted it the other day.

00:21:18.880 You know, look, if I voting to me, I have a different like kind of theory of voting than most people do.

00:21:25.200 I think it's kind of like, look, either Kamala Harris or Donald Trump was going to be president.

00:21:30.240 And I do, you know, you'll have to wait till the end of the four years.

00:21:34.580 And if this is the end of this war, then overall right now, I'd probably say, yeah, we're still better off that Trump's in there than if Kamala Harris was in there.

00:21:41.480 But at the same time, that's over.

00:21:43.640 That's in the past.

00:21:44.480 I voted for him.

00:21:45.260 Now, I just have whatever I have is not that much influence, but I got an audience and a show or whatever. 0.99

00:21:51.900 And so when he goes to make a catastrophic decision like this, I'm going to use, you know, the the most influence I can to be like, no, screw you. 0.96

00:22:00.900 Do not do this. 0.84

00:22:02.180 People who voted for you will turn on you over doing this.

00:22:04.880 And I think that a lot of people, because Donald Trump is so enormously popular with with Republicans and just is the most like popular political figure in the country.

00:22:16.100 So many people and for understandable reasons that they they won't criticize him.

00:22:21.700 They'll criticize everyone else around him, but they won't criticize him.

00:22:25.320 And that's just to me, like to me, that's the role Tucker Carlson is supposed to play.

00:22:30.640 Tucker Carlson is supposed to keep his influence with Donald Trump.

00:22:33.640 But I'm not.

00:22:35.640 I'm me.

00:22:36.440 I'm just supposed to tell the truth.

00:22:38.260 And so, you know, like my job is to make people laugh at comedy clubs and tell the truth on podcasts.

00:22:42.640 That's all that I get paid to do.

00:22:44.540 So my job is to tell the truth and go, hey, no, this is a this is a horrible decision for a president to make.

00:22:50.980 And look, if that had happened, if Iran had killed some Americans and then Donald Trump had to do a full regime change war or something like that,

00:22:58.760 then that probably would have been worse than even what Kamala Harris would have been, which would have been a disaster also. 1.00

00:23:04.640 So who knows?

00:23:06.300 You know, we never get to run the counterfactuals.

00:23:08.360 There were a lot of positives that came out of Donald Trump winning the presidency once again.

00:23:12.600 You know, I made the joke on X that somewhere in a parallel dimension, Kamala Harris is president.

00:23:17.900 And we've already got regime change as the people of Iran clap and cheer for the American troops entering Toronto's liberators.

00:23:24.260 And I think Trump is the here.

00:23:28.740 I'll tell you, I'll give you the quick version of what I think.

00:23:30.280 I think Israel pressures Trump into the strike.

00:23:33.460 Trump is is wishy washy.

00:23:35.480 J.D. Vance clearly didn't want it.

00:23:36.620 Tulsi Gabbard clearly didn't want it. 0.95

00:23:37.800 Trump has said for decades, Iran, no nuclear weapon.

00:23:40.800 He's convinced of this is OK, fine.

00:23:42.460 Limited strikes.

00:23:43.920 Now he's getting pissed because it seems like, of course, Israel's intention was never just striking the nuclear facilities.

00:23:50.320 They started bombing the IRGC and other targets immediately after the U.S. did.

00:23:54.760 So they clearly want more.

00:23:56.540 I think if it was Kamala Harris, we'd be escalating every step of the way right now. 1.00

00:24:00.780 And it's not because of her, but it's because what she represents, the Democratic uniparty machine that has wanted boots on the ground in Tehran for decades now.

00:24:10.940 Trump made the mistake of bringing on Bolton in the first place.

00:24:13.400 But he's one of these guys and you can see it from Hillary Clinton to the rest of the D.C. war apparatus.

00:24:19.020 Bolton said in Trump's first term, this time next year, we'll be celebrating in Tehran.

00:24:23.580 I think Kamala Harris wins.

00:24:25.240 I think they push for it.

00:24:27.200 But I think Trump might actually back off right now.

00:24:29.900 I'm hoping he does.

00:24:31.360 And I'm hoping that the end of this is we actually are happy that we voted for Trump and we say of all the outcomes we could have gotten.

00:24:40.380 Like, you know, I'll put it this way.

00:24:42.500 I always call myself a reformer, not a revolutionary.

00:24:45.020 If the worst thing we get from Trump is he launches a strike, I don't like it.

00:24:49.780 I will say I disapprove of it.

00:24:50.980 But then we don't get an expanding war.

00:24:53.540 I'll consider this the correct option still.

00:24:56.040 I'll be very happy that was the outcome.

00:24:58.160 I don't think we're ever going to get a Rand Paul president who shuts all that down, at least not in the immediate.

00:25:04.180 So I'm I'm I'm feeling pretty good right now.

00:25:07.840 I don't I don't know.

00:25:08.680 I mean, I hope the ceasefire holds.

00:25:09.900 But I'm I'm just I'm wondering what you think that's going to happen next.

00:25:12.800 Well, you know, I don't know.

00:25:15.780 And and particularly Trump has been so kind of erratic and all over the place in the last week.

00:25:22.780 I mean, going from first he's negotiating, then Israel strikes.

00:25:26.180 Then he says, aha, the negotiations were just to fool you.

00:25:29.020 So who knows what he's doing with with all of this, you know.

00:25:32.040 But if that's the case, look, I mean, there's no question things look much, much better today than they did just 24 hours ago.

00:25:41.500 So literally 24 hours ago, as we're speaking right now, the the breaking news was that missiles have been launched at U.S. bases.

00:25:49.580 And it wasn't for about another hour yesterday that we found out that, oh, they had given advance warning.

00:25:56.120 So like 24 hours ago yesterday, it looked like we might be getting sucked into a major catastrophe here.

00:26:02.940 So things are looking much better today.

00:26:04.840 Thank God for that.

00:26:06.080 You know, I will gladly trade people saying, oh, Dave was an alarmist on this for avoiding the catastrophe.

00:26:12.140 That's that's fine by me.

00:26:13.320 And look, the the real I you know, we can't go back and run counterfactuals and we're not going back in time.

00:26:19.620 So what's done has already been done.

00:26:21.640 So at this point, yeah, let's let's really hope that Trump walks away from this thing.

00:26:26.300 And let's really hope that maybe a lot of people learned a bit of a lesson by just seeing even even seeing today how much the hawks are turning on Donald Trump.

00:26:36.720 And like there's a real asymmetry to this here, right, because people could say, oh, hey, Dave, you turned on Donald Trump just last week.

00:26:44.320 And now the hawks are turning on him this week.

00:26:45.960 So you all turn on Donald Trump if you don't get your way.

00:26:48.420 But the fact is that I turned on Donald Trump because a war with Iran could be a catastrophe for the United States of America.

00:26:56.600 And they're turning on Donald Trump because the regime change would be good for Israel and they don't care if it would be a disaster for America.

00:27:04.240 You know what I'm hoping?

00:27:04.920 I'm hoping that, you know, Trump met with Bannon.

00:27:07.780 He had a phone call with Tucker Carlson.

00:27:10.000 Tucker says he apologized because he pushed a little too hard.

00:27:12.920 I'm hoping that Trump had this conversation.

00:27:14.720 They they spoke to him and they said, here are the potential risks.

00:27:19.080 Here's what you're getting yourself into.

00:27:20.780 And then he was like, I'm going to go middle of the road on this one because Trump just wants everyone to love him.

00:27:26.140 I'm hoping what happens now is he sees how much of a hassle it is and how damaging domestically it is to get in the middle of a foreign conflict,

00:27:35.720 especially considering Netanyahu bombed that radar station after Trump said, don't do it.

00:27:39.620 I'm hoping the end result is that Trump leaves this saying it's not worth the effort.

00:27:45.760 I don't want to be involved in these things.

00:27:47.300 Everybody's pissed at me no matter what what what I do.

00:27:49.740 So maybe just don't get involved at all and let the angry people be angry.

00:27:54.820 If he had focused solely on the domestic issue and his domestic agenda and we weren't having this conversation.

00:28:01.860 The Hawks would be hawking and begging him to do it.

00:28:04.920 The people who voted for him wouldn't be complaining about it.

00:28:07.540 Trump would have no flack in any direction.

00:28:10.420 And he'd be carrying out his agenda, which has has has been improving his polls.

00:28:14.280 So, yeah, hopefully that's the lesson he gets and he carries it out.

00:28:17.740 Well, that's right, because because the Trump agenda has always been popular.

00:28:22.460 Yeah, even even when people like personally have issues with Donald Trump, which there are always a lot of voters out there who are like,

00:28:29.280 I don't like the way he's always calling people names and I don't like the way he does this and I don't like all the stunts.

00:28:34.200 But the agenda of bringing back jobs to America and not having de facto open borders where we don't even know who's in our country and not getting not getting into any more of these stupid wars and improving the economy.

00:28:47.660 And, you know, more energy and more like all of this is wildly popular because like, why wouldn't it be who's against any of that, you know, except for like deranged, you know, like progressives or something who's against any of that.

00:29:01.200 And so, yeah, hopefully, hopefully he can pivot away from this and pivot away from these entangling wars and get back to the what the whole mission was about.

00:29:10.980 Right. The whole Donald Trump presidency was about. We're not doing the neocon stuff anymore.

00:29:15.360 We're doing America first stuff now. Hopefully that's where we go in the future. 0.99

00:29:19.360 I agree. And I do think that whatever Trump decides to do, his his core base, those who will defend him no matter what, will defend him.

00:29:27.940 If Trump came out and said. I don't want to be involved in any more of this, so we are ending our involvement in this, then you're going to see the most prominent Trump voices cheering for that decision.

00:29:40.780 And of course, we would as well. So I hope that's the route he takes. But we are going to we are at a time.

00:29:45.380 So, Dave, where can people find you? Oh, my show is a part of the problem.

00:29:50.160 Part of the problem dot com is where you can go for that.

00:29:52.640 Thank you, Tim. It was good to see you, brother. Likewise. Likewise.

00:29:54.740 I appreciate you coming on and talking about how you feel about things. And we'll we'll see you next time.

00:29:58.640 Absolutely. Take care.

00:30:01.640 Of course, that was Dave Smith. He's a comedian. Thanks, guys.

00:30:07.200 And it's contentious. You know, we I get flack. I get I know exactly, you know, what happens.

00:30:14.780 Look, the point of doing these interviews is largely to interview the subject.

00:30:19.520 It's not the same as IRL, where we have a little bit more debate, more conversation.

00:30:23.080 This is we're doing these things digitally.

00:30:26.020 The you know. And so some people have argued that when I had, say, Laura Loomer on or Rand Paul, I should have specifically pushed back in certain areas.

00:30:34.140 I do my best to try to ask what I think.

00:30:35.920 I try and if you know, if I disagree, I disagree with Dave on the issue of the nuclear enrichment.

00:30:41.340 That's why I brought it up. The reports suggest that they do have the capability.

00:30:44.860 I don't know if they're going to make a nuke, but they do have enriched uranium.

00:30:47.260 I think everyone agrees with that. But I think it's important to, you know, hear those voices.

00:30:52.340 We had Laura Loomer on the other day where she explained the people that were going after Trump.

00:30:56.560 And she was very critical of a lot of people. I try to I try to do my best and make sure that we're getting an understanding of that as best as we can.

00:31:03.500 So I do appreciate it. And I consider Dave a friend. He's a good dude.

00:31:06.620 And I do. I lean towards the anti-intervention side.

00:31:10.220 I'm very happy with Trump right now. I think he's done a remarkable job.

00:31:14.200 I loved seeing the exasperation, not to be a dick, but to see that he's realizing a juice ain't worth the squeeze.

00:31:21.880 And I hope that he starts to see that you're not going to please these people and it's going to it's going to be a powder keg for bigger conflict.

00:31:27.760 Get back to the domestic issue and the American people will support you.

00:31:31.220 So with that being said, let's get this raid underway for our friend Russell Brand, who should be he's gearing up right now.

00:31:37.940 So we'll we'll send you all on your way. Smash the like button. Share the show with everyone.

00:31:42.960 You know, you can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Thank you guys so much for for tuning in and hanging out.

00:31:48.980 The raid is currently underway. I think the best is yet to come.

00:31:53.860 I trust that Trump is trying to do the right thing and I trust that sometimes he will make mistakes.

00:31:59.140 But I think he's got I still consider to be the best president of my lifetime.

00:32:03.560 And I've not experienced anyone better. Anyone. And I mean it. And I mean it.

00:32:10.360 I said it to him and I'll say it again. I don't agree with this. I don't expect to agree with everything he does.

00:32:14.380 But he's done a bang up job so far and I hope he continues it.

00:32:17.140 Thanks for hanging out, everybody. And we will see you all tonight.

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The Culture War - Tim Pool - June 24, 2025

Trump GOES OFF After Israel VIOLATES CEASEFIRE, Dave Smith Slams Trump BETRAYAL ft. Dave Smith

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