The Culture War - Tim Pool - US Preps For ISRAELI STRIKES On Iran, Begins EVACUATIONS, WW3 FEARS ERUPT ft. John Doyle

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00:00:59.700 slash terms. But we got this from the Jerusalem Post yesterday. Israel is considering striking

00:01:05.380 Iran in the coming days without U.S. support. This comes shortly after a CBS report in which

00:01:11.960 multiple sources stated that Israel has told U.S. officials that it's fully ready to launch an

00:01:16.160 operation into Iran. Iran's military has begun drills earlier that focused on enemy movements,

00:01:22.040 according to their state media. So yeah, it looks like Israel and the U.S., that relationship

00:01:29.460 is not the relationship those two countries have had previously. Israel isn't really waiting for 0.52

00:01:36.500 the green light from, they're not waiting for the green light from the Americans, right? They're ready

00:01:42.860 to go. They're ready to strike. And this is why the Iran talks are really important, because if we can 0.65

00:01:49.800 potentially cut a deal with the Iranians that is acceptable for both parties, we could balance out 1.00

00:01:57.460 the situation in the Middle East, right? All this sort of saber-wagging from Iran would probably come 0.99

00:02:02.540 to a close. That's what we need. But then you see Israel coming in here, and who knows who they 1.00

00:02:11.900 reported this to, or how this news got out, but that Israel is considering striking. Now, what this

00:02:19.480 appears to be is that Israel perhaps knows that the Americans are close to a deal with the Iranians,

00:02:25.340 and they're trying to put pressure on both parties to walk away from the negotiating table.

00:02:31.040 This may be the case. I'm not sure. I mean, obviously, you would need to be in these rooms to know if

00:02:35.720 that's the case. But nevertheless, very interesting if the Israelis decide that now is the time to

00:02:40.820 strike. This is kind of coming down to a breakdown. There's sort of a break between the older

00:02:49.320 generations in D.C. and the younger generations in D.C. The older generations in D.C. still subscribe

00:02:55.940 to sort of a unipolar worldview, as in where the Americans are the sole superpower. And the younger

00:03:03.940 generations kind of understand that after the Soviet Union fell, it was kind of impossible for

00:03:08.640 the Americans to maintain their position, our position, as the world's superpower, right, as the

00:03:13.720 world police. And so, yeah, this breakdown has occurred, and you're starting to see now this kind

00:03:20.260 of tug between the older generation and the younger generation in D.C. And it looks like, thankfully,

00:03:25.080 Trump and Vance have come down on the side of reasonable geopolitics. They understand that the

00:03:30.220 Iranians need to be sort of respected. You can't just stomp all over these countries like you used

00:03:35.520 to, because nobody wants a nuclear war, especially not me. But yeah, so I want to rope in John Doyle

00:03:42.220 from Heck Off Commie. I want to have a chat with him. I want to break down this Iran stuff more. I had 0.97

00:03:47.900 some more stuff I wanted to get into. But yeah, I really wanted to bring him in to have a chat.

00:03:52.600 We're going to break down, you know, is Iran, is a war with Iran really what we need right now? 0.82

00:03:58.300 Is it a distraction? Maybe they're trying to take heat off of, like I was touching on earlier,

00:04:02.480 how the right sort of uniting around limiting immigration. It's tough to tell. But yeah,

00:04:07.860 I wanted to rope him in. Let's see, we're getting him up here. John, can you hear me?

00:04:11.900 Yes.

00:04:12.500 Dude, what's up, Patriot? How's it going?

00:04:14.860 Dude, I'm having a very patriotic morning. I hope that everybody is as well.

00:04:20.440 Yeah. So why don't you give a little introduction to the people watching who you are?

00:04:24.140 Sure. My name is John Doyle. I have a show over on YouTube called The John Doyle. I guess it used

00:04:31.580 to be called Heck Off Commie. And I talk about politics. We go in pretty deep with a lot of

00:04:37.920 different topics, cultural, political, historical, things like that.

00:04:41.280 Yeah. Good stuff. Well, you told me pre-show that you're banging the war drum. You're ready to go to

00:04:45.500 war with Iran. You're really excited about that. Can you explain your position? 0.99

00:04:48.760 Yeah. On principle, I'm sort of opposed to more involvement in the Middle East and in wars,

00:04:55.500 but I've been hearing about war with Iran ever since I was a boy. You grow up and our 1911 was

00:05:01.600 like the Beretta M9. Our dads, every time they went to go buy a gun, they were buying the 1911,

00:05:06.920 like the toys. We grew up playing with the M9s. And I want to get in, dude. I wasn't old enough to go 1.00

00:05:12.980 over and participate in the global war on terror. And so I'm crossing my fingers that, yeah,

00:05:17.440 finally we get war with Iran. Finally, we get boots on the ground. Because they've been guaranteeing 0.93

00:05:21.820 it for, I mean, literally our entire lives now. I saw a graphic on Twitter where people were

00:05:26.360 posting like Benjamin Netanyahu's updated statements on like Iran nuclear possibility.

00:05:33.000 And it's basically been like, if you squint your eyes, the same thing for over 20 years now in terms

00:05:37.940 of, oh, they're on their way to getting a nuke. They're on their way. We have to. And so all of that

00:05:41.720 is alluding to this idea that like Israel would be able to attack Iran and then the United States,

00:05:46.440 of course, would back Israel up. But thankfully, I don't think that that's going to have to happen 0.99

00:05:51.440 because I think that right now U.S.-Israel relations are probably the weakest they've been

00:05:55.740 at any point in our lifetimes, which Patriots knew was going to happen going into the second

00:05:59.820 Trump administration because Trump is like really an America first guy. He'll do business with

00:06:05.260 different factions as you do in politics. But as someone who made a name in Manhattan real estate,

00:06:11.120 he's pretty good at dealing with Jewish people. And so I don't think that we'll have to,

00:06:14.860 you know, go get a boots on the ground war in Iran. Probably what will happen is, you know,

00:06:19.060 you may see some strikes. You may see Iran try to mobilize proxies as they have been,

00:06:23.580 though they've been pretty destroyed because of the IDF. So this idea that America would have to

00:06:28.840 get involved, I think, is pretty unlikely for, you know, the reasons I've stated. And also because

00:06:33.040 like the stability of Iran as a state is something that I think people take for granted.

00:06:37.340 They're very unstable. They're politically unpopular. Their economy is unstable. Like the idea that they

00:06:42.740 could, you know, rally the troops and go to war and maybe get Russia and China, who have no interest 0.77

00:06:48.900 in war, let alone a world war, to back them up. Like they have no allies. It's not a big deal,

00:06:53.680 but it gets good engagements on Twitter. Yeah. I mean, because that's kind of the talks right now is

00:06:58.580 if this does break down, if Whitcoff isn't successful in coming to a deal, there's the snapback

00:07:04.540 resolution that's within the original nuclear agreement in which we would reestablish all these

00:07:11.560 sanctions from the UN onto Iran. And it would take the Security Council, just a single member

00:07:16.820 on the Security Council to approve this. The US actually withdrew from this agreement. So I think

00:07:20.380 we would just kind of bully the UK into doing it. And it's interesting because right now it doesn't

00:07:25.540 look like China has an appetite to try and start a veto process if this were to happen. And who knows 1.00

00:07:30.680 if Russia is. So, I mean, if Iran can even get their dogs in a line with their supposed, you know, 0.92

00:07:35.900 this kind of new axis, I don't see why we should be too afraid of a massive world war breaking out if

00:07:43.340 we just choose not to engage with Iran. But something I wanted to ask you was, you know,

00:07:48.080 we've been seeing these talks with Whitcoff and the Iranian delegation. The first three seemed to go

00:07:54.040 pretty well. We were seeing reports that it was fruitful that they, you know, were starting to

00:07:58.180 kind of find some common ground. But the fourth and fifth ones look to go pretty badly. I know the

00:08:04.260 one in Rome, I think that was the fifth talk. The Iranian state media was reporting that

00:08:09.700 Whitcoff left early and that he showed up late. You know, it's Iranian state media. So take that

00:08:15.420 for what it's worth. But my question is, if the negotiations aren't going the way that we want

00:08:20.340 them to, I know we have another round of discussions coming up on Sunday. What is the off-ramp for the

00:08:25.600 United States if this does look like Israel is going to strike? Yeah, it's a good question. I think 1.00

00:08:31.080 that in a way, like, all parties involved sort of have an incentive to push for this, not even

00:08:36.180 because of like the military industrial complex, but because I really think that Americans who even

00:08:41.440 are politically engaged don't understand how unstable Iran is. And also Israel is. I mean,

00:08:46.260 Israel is very politically unstable. They have a similar demographic issue to the one that we face

00:08:51.520 in the West. Insofar, I mean, their TFR is high, their total fertility rate, but they have a lot of

00:08:57.240 diversity there. They have a left just as we do. And Netanyahu is not exactly like a popular

00:09:02.100 leader. And so it is advantageous for him to sort of unify the coalition against, you know,

00:09:07.420 some common enemy. And I think you see the same in Iran, where it's like, again, they have very 0.63

00:09:11.740 actually have a worse demographic issue. Their TFR is like 1.6 or something. Their people are not 0.99

00:09:17.840 exactly of great stock. They're not exactly patriots. And so for a regime that is unpopular as they are

00:09:25.120 dealing with protests all the time, it's the same sort of strategy where like, if you can present

00:09:28.520 this sort of like unified, you know, coalition against a common threat, then they can maybe,

00:09:33.280 you know, keep kicking along. So on the one hand, there's that. I don't think that either party has

00:09:39.060 an incentive to really back down. How America can kind of get off from that, I think, is just simply

00:09:43.560 by being a patriot and trusting Donald Trump. I mean, he understands that we can't get into another

00:09:49.340 war. He understands that he ran against that. I mean, that was the record of his first

00:09:53.900 administration was de-escalation in the Middle East, famously not starting any new wars,

00:09:58.600 famously changing the regime change policy against Assad and Syria. So in terms of the mechanics of

00:10:03.940 that, I don't know if I could predict what it would look like, but I do actually trust Trump in

00:10:08.280 advance, especially. I mean, if you look at his record on foreign policy, it's exactly what we'd

00:10:12.440 want it to be. So I trust that they will not get America deep, more deeply involved in these kinds

00:10:17.480 of conflicts, which have nothing to do with us and don't benefit us. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I mean,

00:10:21.740 that's what everybody's been saying. It's kind of a scratch my eye, seeing some people that I would

00:10:26.680 not expect to say this, saying, well, how does this involve us? This is on the other side of the

00:10:29.960 world. I mean, they don't seem to uniquely want to flatten us, right? I mean, they seem pretty

00:10:35.920 content on operating in their sphere. Because that was another question I wanted to ask you was,

00:10:40.520 you know, we're kind of seeing on the macro scale in geopolitics, you're seeing this push and pull

00:10:44.280 between the establishment in DC and the new MAGA movement, where the establishment is still committed to

00:10:50.100 this 20th century American unipolar sort of worldview. And the MAGA movement, while yes,

00:10:57.000 they're emphasizing America's strength, they're saying this isn't beneficial for us, nor is it

00:11:02.140 for the rest of the world to impose our will on every country, every square mile of this globe.

00:11:08.040 I'm curious, now that we're seeing this kind of fracturing, right? We're seeing Russia, Iran, 0.55

00:11:14.440 China really start to operate independent of anything, any fears, really, of America retaliating.

00:11:22.900 Where do you think this goes? I mean, do you see the Trump administration really starting to

00:11:26.720 retract from the world stage? Or do you think there's maybe something in between? I don't know.

00:11:31.020 I'm curious to hear your thoughts.

00:11:32.980 Yeah, I mean, I think that we have a more beneficial role as Americans when we have, you know,

00:11:39.860 our presence on the global stage, but it's controlled by people who are not hostile to Americans

00:11:44.080 themselves. So insofar as we have power and influence in the world right now, like, that's

00:11:48.940 great, I guess, to some extent, I mean, people having faith in the dollar that sustains our

00:11:52.780 lifestyle. But with that, you have a class who is running the country that is hostile to the people.

00:11:59.060 And so they're going to import, you know, tens of millions of people from the third world, 0.96

00:12:02.460 they're going to allow crime, they're going to install district attorneys who refuse to

00:12:06.240 prosecute crime to like lower the quality of life that we would experience as Americans.

00:12:09.860 And so I'm confident in the ascendant, like new right leadership class, because these are guys who

00:12:16.080 maybe went through a little bit of like the neocon training and education, but they're able to 0.85

00:12:22.240 actually reject it in a way that is pretty much unprecedented for, I guess, the aftermath of

00:12:27.340 World War Two, where all of these like former Trotskyites became the neoconservatives. And because

00:12:33.880 Trotskyites are Marxists, they retain this blank slate, libtard, everybody's equal idea. 1.00

00:12:39.860 Which then can be channeled into their impulse to like world build and nation build, because

00:12:44.980 if we're all equal, well, then our Western liberal democracy certainly can be exported to these areas

00:12:50.720 in the Middle East or in Africa, or where have you. And so I think that it's really just a numbers game,

00:12:56.160 they're going to be old, and they're going to die and retire. And the people who would replace them

00:13:00.920 are going to be people who understand what the issues are, what we have to do.

00:13:04.380 And the only problem there is that we are also playing our own numbers game

00:13:08.380 against the open border. And so that's why this administration is a very crucial

00:13:13.400 sort of turning point for patriots, because the question will be, can we get enough of these

00:13:18.900 people out of the country in time before, God forbid, Democrats get back into power and just

00:13:23.600 amnesty them and then consolidate political power. And then it doesn't even matter if like young

00:13:27.820 conservative guys understand what we have to do. The hurdles that will then be put in place are going

00:13:32.820 to be so impossible that like achieving some kind of practical in our lifetime solution is going to

00:13:38.560 be very difficult. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of a good segue to the what I was hitting on earlier,

00:13:43.760 where you're seeing really mainstream figures, I was pointing out Charlie Kirk, Matt Walsh,

00:13:48.640 these types of guys, they're advocating for an immigration moratorium, which when I saw that

00:13:53.700 pop up in my feed, I thought it was maybe like a screenshot that was altered in some way. I couldn't

00:13:59.940 believe it because that's a policy that even if you advocated for like three, four years ago would get

00:14:04.840 you, I mean, completely, completely, you know, stiff armed from any sort of political power. And now

00:14:11.140 you're seeing really mainstream figures advocate for this. I mean, what does that say about the mood of

00:14:16.220 MAGA right now in the mood of the country at large? People are just waking up, man. It was Trump, I think

00:14:22.560 you and I actually talked about this when, when I was in town, it was Trump coming down the escalator.

00:14:26.680 And then very importantly, it was Tucker's run in the summer of love in 2020 that really like woke a

00:14:32.440 lot of people up. And I'm not like a real big fan of this idea that like, oh, if the people wake up,

00:14:38.260 then we can change things. But the people who you want to wake up are, you know, the people who are

00:14:44.220 above average intelligence, who are working in these kinds of positions, it doesn't really matter if

00:14:49.100 like your average American is like fully tuned into what we have to do. But you want smart people to be

00:14:54.660 sympathetic to your ideas and to understand them. And what's happened is because all of these things

00:15:00.440 that have been promoted by the left have created very bad circumstances for younger people, for

00:15:04.660 Americans in general, it's kind of given people sort of a permission to entertain ideas that prior would 1.00

00:15:11.200 have been considered too taboo, low status, low class, you know, only relegated stupid people. But 1.00

00:15:17.840 because guys like Tucker Carlson, who are like smart, and he has an audience of, you know, a lot of boomers,

00:15:22.380 but there are also like a lot of people in DC who like him and who respect him working a daily

00:15:26.420 caller. And so it really was a matter, I think, of just like, big people with big, big platforms,

00:15:32.460 kind of just like having a little bit of a go off moment and saying what everybody else was thinking.

00:15:37.580 And now that it's out of the box, I mean, you can't you can't put the the toothpaste back in the

00:15:41.980 tube, so to speak, you cannot unsee what people are now seeing. And even Hispanics are getting it. 0.99

00:15:46.840 Like Hispanics are probably the most likely, especially maybe the Nortenia variety to, 0.99

00:15:50.960 you know, be what we would understand is assimilated. But even now, like MAGA patriots

00:15:55.940 are like, no, send them all back. The food's not even good.

00:15:59.860 Yeah, I saw Walsh's rant on the timeline about Mexican food. I have to agree. I think Tex-Mex

00:16:05.380 is the superior cuisine. I've been in I've been to Mexico. I've had the local food. It's just

00:16:10.260 corn base, starch base, and like some sort of meat. I mean, it's really very straightforward.

00:16:16.120 Um, yeah, I think what we're kind of seeing here with the, uh, with the LA riots and then the Iran 1.00

00:16:23.180 war, we're kind of seeing the two biggest pieces and why this country has been screwed over for

00:16:29.780 decades. And these are very salient for young people. I mean, we've known this, if you're a

00:16:34.720 young right winger, you've known these two issues, the foreign wars and the mass immigration are the

00:16:38.720 two issues that have really boned us. Um, it's interesting to see older people actually, 0.99

00:16:43.380 you know, and a lot of, to be fair, a lot of them, especially Tim Kaspers or sharp folks

00:16:47.560 have known that these issues have been undercutting, um, America's prosperity,

00:16:52.060 but, um, it's really fascinating to see that we're seeing like on full display. I mean,

00:16:56.660 you would think that the, you know, one of our guys paid for these two to be on the news. Cause

00:17:00.780 it's like just the perfect culmination of everything that's gone wrong. Um, what do you

00:17:05.920 think the, what do you think the pathway forward is for young people? I mean, it's kind of tough

00:17:11.840 cause it feels like we're getting shut out of a lot of these institutions, right? It kind of feels

00:17:15.060 like a lot of, uh, older, um, older folks in DC are digging their heels in, but, um, you're starting

00:17:21.140 to see now older folks are kind of coming to issues that have been pushed by younger Patriots for a

00:17:27.340 long time. So I'm kind of curious, what do you think the future is after the older generation kind 0.91

00:17:31.860 of dies off? What kind of elements do you expect to see rise? Yeah, man. I think that honestly,

00:17:37.000 it's our, it's our fight to lose. Um, I'm seeing a lot of guys who like five years ago,

00:17:42.600 I remember we talked about this to like five years ago, they were like, you know, watching

00:17:46.340 content like mine, watching, you know, all the content online. And now they go and they work

00:17:50.980 in DHS or they work in the Trump admin. And so like, these are guys who had an interest in

00:17:55.360 politics and they're passionate about it. And they simply were smart, kept their nose clean. And now

00:18:00.140 they're like in positions where they are able to make decisions that are important. And so I,

00:18:05.380 I really think that like the issues that we've experienced as a movement with like gatekeeping

00:18:09.940 and sort of, uh, editorializing has really decreased in a very positive way, just like the last two or

00:18:16.420 three years. Um, and you do have like maybe newer iterations of that, that are not so good. Like you

00:18:21.440 have a lot of these institutions, which are staffed by women. And I'm not saying that in the sense that

00:18:25.900 like, we don't want women in politics. I'm saying that what tends to happen is when women get involved 1.00

00:18:30.460 in these things and they hear ideas that are like maybe edgy or something, it makes them

00:18:34.680 uncomfortable. It becomes an HR problem. And so they're just like little things like that. But,

00:18:39.840 um, other than that, I, I think that it's, it's right for the picking. And so that's why I think

00:18:44.300 the advice has kind of shifted, um, in the last couple of years from, you know, don't go to college,

00:18:48.840 go be a plumber and make 80 K and then, you know, ruin your body by age, like 45 or something.

00:18:53.820 It shifted to instead, like go to college, get a law degree, um, you know, try to reach as high as you

00:18:59.680 can basically, because there are going to be opportunities opening up, I think, because, um,

00:19:03.880 the establishment is weak, man. Like the ability of the right to put this back is, is probably gone.

00:19:11.120 I think they really tried every, literally everything, um, in, in the lead up to the 2024

00:19:15.820 election. But now with somebody like Vance, who's like very popular and he's very talented and he's

00:19:20.800 a great speaker and people like him, he's normal. I mean, he goes on these like podcast tours and he

00:19:25.140 does a great job. Um, and also with the unpopularity of Democrat, not only policies, but their parties,

00:19:30.520 they have absolutely no talent, like it's looking good for Patriots right now. And I think that,

00:19:35.660 you know, Vance is really the only person I trust to like, continue whatever vector this is.

00:19:40.000 And, um, I find it very likely in the event that that happens, God willing, more opportunities are

00:19:45.860 opened up for, for Patriots down the road. So, um, yeah, if you're a young guy listening,

00:19:50.460 put down the wrench, dude, go, go get a law degree, go work for the, uh, the Trump admin or the

00:19:54.940 Vance admin. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is kind of, this is kind of, uh, created an interesting

00:20:00.120 scenario where you have, um, and you're very familiar with them. I won't name names, but,

00:20:04.700 and it's, it's actually a pretty big tent of people that are seeing major figures sort of rally around

00:20:10.720 the flag on immigration. You're seeing people really upset with figures like JD Vance, um,

00:20:16.100 demonstrating such a rhetoric upgrade from what we've seen from any politician. And they're like

00:20:21.720 nitpicking and they're crossing their arms. Like, well, no, we can't trust them because they're,

00:20:25.760 they're unifying. And I'm, and I'm sitting there thinking like, shouldn't you be taking the W that

00:20:29.900 very powerful figures are starting to use the same policy language that you are? I don't know. I mean,

00:20:35.920 I know you've seen these, these sorts of people throwing a hissy fit as well. Yeah. It's like,

00:20:41.040 do you want the ball moved down the field or like, do you want to be like a fan boy? That's what it is.

00:20:47.280 It's like, you know, people that maybe I'm going to, I hate myself for using this example,

00:20:50.280 but it's like people that, you know, uh, listen to bleach, just like mad at everyone who just got

00:20:55.460 turned on by nevermind or something. They're like, I was a fan before it was, it's like, okay,

00:20:59.820 cool. I don't know. I don't know if I can use colorful language. That's, that's like what it

00:21:05.260 is, dude. And it's like, also we're in our twenties. Okay. Death of the West came out in what? 2002.

00:21:11.760 It was a New York times bestseller. None of us invented like immigration restrictionism,

00:21:16.560 technology has sort of destroyed the ability for these old publications, be it Fox news,

00:21:22.240 national review to kind of control the conversation. And so now the good ideas are finally winning.

00:21:28.060 Unfortunately, because the conversation is uncensored, you get a lot of really retarded ideas 1.00

00:21:31.900 too, but the good ideas are winning and that's what matters. And so, yeah, it's like, you know,

00:21:37.440 are things getting better? Yes. Can we complain about that? You can always complain about anything,

00:21:41.680 but if you just like, look at where we are now versus where we are one year ago or five years

00:21:46.240 ago, think in terms of decades, dude, like there's no reason to despair. And even with some of these

00:21:51.180 guys like Charlie Kirk, for example, I don't even know if that guy's 30 years old yet. Charlie Kirk

00:21:55.740 might, he's probably like 31, 32. They play these clips of him in like 2018 when he was younger than

00:22:02.520 I am now, I think probably even younger than you. And this is a guy who dedicated his twenties

00:22:07.880 to building up Turning Point USA and building it into now, like the largest, frankly, coolest sort

00:22:14.400 of like young college organization for patriots. He's been doing great work for Trump, but this is

00:22:20.240 a guy who didn't exactly like have time to like lurk on the internet, read the books, do stuff like

00:22:25.560 that. He was rubbing shoulders with all these like normal GOP apparatchiks. And he's like, oh yeah,

00:22:30.940 well, I'm going to kind of internalize the party messaging and I'm going to use that to build an organ

00:22:34.880 for us. And we're going to take down the socialists. It's like, you can explain that in

00:22:39.260 a way that's like charitable and not nefarious. Like it's, it's tougher to think that he was like

00:22:44.340 rubbing his hands together the whole time. Like I'm going to, I'm going to control the writing

00:22:48.080 because I don't want to get anybody in trouble, but I happen to know that in 2020, certain figures

00:22:55.320 were asking certain figures for book recommendations. Hey, what's going on? And so some of us just sort

00:23:00.760 have had a delayed onset red pill. Some of us were like late bloomers. And now that we're there,

00:23:07.400 it's like, great dude. Welcome to the team. Who cares? You're doing great work. Did great work for

00:23:12.240 Trump. And by the way, Charlie Kirk was the only Patriot who stayed loyal to Trump fall 2022. I mean,

00:23:18.680 this guy was in that donor circle, people whispering in his ear, cozy up to DeSantis, abandoned Trump.

00:23:24.880 Charlie Kirk could have done that. I mean, he would have had a financial incentive to do that. He would

00:23:28.360 have had probably a social incentive. He stayed loyal to Trump when Trump was bleeding allies.

00:23:33.220 Never Trump media was turning on him. Neo, never Trump alternative media, like daily wire was

00:23:37.880 turning on him, propping up DeSantis. And we saw this happening in 2021 when all of a sudden all

00:23:42.560 this media was like, Oh, DeSantis is really good. He's like Trump, but effective. And I was like,

00:23:45.980 what is this? What's going on? And then sure enough, they tried to primary Trump.

00:23:49.680 Yeah.

00:23:50.720 So yeah, Charlie, he's a Patriot. Matt Walsh, again, you can find like hit pieces on Matt Walsh from 2011,

00:23:57.060 where he's like the Anglo-Saxon character of the nation. So it's like the idea that like these

00:24:03.240 guys are less red-pilled than, you know, some like 17 year old from Ecuador. It's just like,

00:24:08.320 not true, dude. So at a certain point, you just have to maybe think and have a little bit of

00:24:14.060 empathy. Like, okay, if I were in this guy's position, what would I do? Say, if I'm Charlie

00:24:17.920 Kirk, I'm Matt Walsh, I'm like this big figure, a lot of audience, a lot of influence. Do I get up

00:24:23.660 there and do I just like, you know, recite an infographic from 4chan or do I maybe have to

00:24:28.120 exercise a little prudence and a little discipline? And as a result, they're doing great work and

00:24:33.560 everybody who's hating on them is not doing great work. I like winners. Okay. I like guys that win.

00:24:38.220 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I like winners. Speaking of winning, you know, a couple people

00:24:44.660 have raised fears that now that the ice raids are ramping up, the big, beautiful build does look

00:24:50.260 like it may pass actually. With 150 billion odd dollars allocated towards ice, if this bill passes,

00:24:58.620 let's say August, September, it's on the president's desk, there is fears that ramping up ice raids to

00:25:03.900 an insane degree right before the midterms may come back to haunt us. You know, I'm thinking, well,

00:25:09.680 immigration is a really popular issue. So in theory, it should actually help us. But people are still

00:25:15.420 susceptible to seeing these really grim imagery, you know, people like moms getting dragged out of cars and

00:25:19.580 that sort of stuff. And think about 1000 of Brigo Garcia's every day. I don't know, do you think

00:25:24.900 Americans are ready for that? It's tough to tell. Dude, I honestly, I think that we've got a pretty

00:25:30.340 strong stomach. I think that Stephen Miller was very smart to begin the operations with violent

00:25:35.100 criminals, because the left, of course, weren't able to help themselves. And so they had like the

00:25:39.200 Maryland man, MS 13 gang member, and we all had to cry about this guy because it was so sad.

00:25:43.880 And now people have kind of built up a tolerance to that, to where at a certain point, if in the lead

00:25:49.320 up to the midterms, they're just being like, you know, inundated with footages or footage of people,

00:25:53.940 you know, crying because they're getting sent back, they're not even speaking English. It's like,

00:25:57.700 at a certain point, I mean, independent voters, immigration is very important to them. Conservatives,

00:26:02.320 obviously, is very important to us. And the alternative being the Democrats, they're unpopular,

00:26:06.920 they have nothing to run on. So if we're just like staking midterms based on how compelled

00:26:12.500 Americans are going to be by like foreign tiers, I would probably bet that we're going to do all 1.00

00:26:17.380 right. They just don't really have the energy like they had in Trump's first election, where,

00:26:22.400 you know, in 2018, excuse me, 2019, they were marching and they had the women's march and

00:26:29.080 streets were flooded. And streets are flooded now because of, you know, illegal alien deportations.

00:26:35.160 But those aren't people who always vote the same way that we rely on Democrats or, you know,

00:26:41.180 independents to vote for us. So I think that it's kind of like a now or never thing. I mean,

00:26:45.260 we could try to maybe be a little bit strategic with it. But, you know, at the end of the day,

00:26:50.100 we have so many people here, we need to get started, like as soon as possible and prepare for some sort

00:26:54.720 of nightmare scenario where patriots are no longer control, no longer in control in 2029. And so we may

00:27:01.340 as well try to put a dent in now. And I think that his record stands for itself. And the opposition,

00:27:06.380 again, they have no talent, they have no energy, it's just anti Trump. And that worked, I think,

00:27:11.020 in 2019, because it's like, yeah, dude, we don't know what this guy's going to do. But now we've had

00:27:16.440 a Trump administration, we've had a libtard administration, and people can kind of see 0.99

00:27:20.200 which side the grass is greener on. So I don't think it's going to work. But they're also stupid.

00:27:24.200 And they're also theater kids and highly emotional and neurotic. And so they cannot detect that it's not 1.00

00:27:28.220 working. They can only double down and then use any like unpopularity as just vindication for why

00:27:34.120 they need to continue doubling down. Like, oh, this country is more white supremacists than I thought

00:27:38.100 must push harder. So yeah, dude, I'm confident. Yeah. Well, I got to ask you, I don't know if you 0.93

00:27:44.420 how familiar you are with sports ball. But at the end of the year, the league will give out an MVP award,

00:27:50.320 a most improved player of the year award, and the sixth man of the year award. So the best player that

00:27:55.220 doesn't start. I'm curious, who's your MVP? Who's your MIP? And who's your sixth man for the Trump

00:28:00.980 admin so far? Sorry, can you? What's the last? What's the last one again? The sixth man. So he's

00:28:08.360 not the starter. He's like, you know, he's the spark plug that comes off the bench and he gets

00:28:11.980 you a lot of points. Oh, dude, easy. Okay, Trump MVP, Marco Rubio, most improved Stephen Miller spark

00:28:19.480 plug. I love those guys. I love that. Yeah, that's kind of the that's kind of the curious thing is the

00:28:24.360 turnaround of Marco Rubio a little I don't even want to call him little Marco anymore,

00:28:27.480 because he's been Mark. Yeah, yeah. What do you think's happening in the psyche of a lot of these

00:28:34.200 guys right now that are kind of I mean, you know, we touched on Kirk and Walsh, but a lot of these guys

00:28:38.200 in DC are really turning around. And it's, it's really great to see. I mean, what do you think is

00:28:43.540 going on there? I don't know. You know, I've never really been interested in Marco Rubio. So I don't

00:28:48.220 know if I have a read on him. But it could be possible that this is a guy who just likes politics

00:28:53.140 in the sense that like, when you're a senator, you kind of have a lifestyle that's pretty good.

00:28:58.460 I mean, you can just kind of do what you want, you get to black car service, nice meals, hotels,

00:29:03.160 you get to go speak and make a cushy salary. And then in exchange, quite often what people do is

00:29:08.700 they sell America out. Now, what we do with those people is for a later time. But for somebody like

00:29:13.860 maybe Marco Rubio, say he's just some like, you know, suit, he just wants to play the game of

00:29:17.720 politics. And he's sort of responding to the power that's coming down from Trump. He's falling in line.

00:29:23.180 And now he's using his position to forward the Trump agenda. At that point, dude, I don't really

00:29:27.620 care like what his personal stance on the issues is like, I'm not electing Marco Rubio to be like

00:29:32.360 the Pope, I want him to just be like, an effective employee of the United States government. And so

00:29:38.740 what his particular ideology is gang of eight Rubio, Rubio, I mean, I would have to guess,

00:29:44.920 but insofar as he's doing a good job for Trump, I can, I can only support him. And yeah, that's

00:29:50.080 welcome. It's welcome. I love it. Well, dude, John, I gotta let you go. But before I let you go,

00:29:54.660 thanks for the chat. Where can people find you? Yeah, you can find me on youtube.com slash John

00:30:00.020 Doyle, or on Twitter at Comrade Doyle. Love it, dude. Well, I appreciate you coming on, man.

00:30:06.300 I guess I'll see you around. So true, man. Thanks for having me. Yes, sir.

00:30:14.920 Thank you.

The Culture War - Tim Pool - June 12, 2025

US Preps For ISRAELI STRIKES On Iran, Begins EVACUATIONS, WW3 FEARS ERUPT ft. John Doyle

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