The Culture War - Tim Pool - January 12, 2026


Violence ERUPTS In Minneapolis, Leftists Call For ARMED Resistance ft. Patrick Casey


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On today's episode of Restoring Order, host Patrick Casey Casey is joined by conservative writer Patrick Casey to discuss the ICE raids in response to the massive ICE raids across the U.S. on immigrants in Minneapolis and other cities across the country.

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00:00:50.640 Well, thanks for hopping on, dude. It's good to see you. It's been a minute.
00:00:52.480 Can you give the people a quick intro, who you are, what you do?
00:00:56.580 Sure. So to keep it really quick, I am a writer. I've been published in Chronicles Magazine, the American Conservative, Federalist, and I'm the host of Restoring Order.
00:01:06.060 It's a podcast. You can go to PatrickCasey.com. It's on Spotify. It used to be on YouTube.
00:01:11.320 Was suspended. And yeah, just write, do political commentary, all that good stuff.
00:01:17.100 Let's go. I love it. Well, I want to just like, let's let it rip. You're on TimCast. You know the drill.
00:01:21.480 Do you think civil war is imminent? Because I know, I know that's like, you know, a cliche at this point.
00:01:27.220 It's, you know, people are just like, okay, here we go with the civil war talk.
00:01:29.900 But I really am seeing two countries here.
00:01:33.120 I mean, people that are literally going up to Bovino, who's like in a Target using the bathroom and like screaming, we don't want you here.
00:01:40.300 These sorts of things. Simply for the crime of trying to enforce immigration laws that are on the books.
00:01:44.460 Where is the off ramp in that situation? How does this not escalate further?
00:01:52.200 That's a good question. I think there's, there was no conceivable scenario in which Trump carries, fulfills his mandate given to him by the American people to carry out mass deportations.
00:02:02.800 And that the left just like goes along with it. So there was always going to be, unfortunately, given the insanity of the left, some chaos involved.
00:02:13.260 You know, it's not like, I'm sure a lot of Democrats support the people literally out in the streets obstructed the Renee Goodes, the people obstructing, you know, to varying degrees of severity.
00:02:25.220 These, these, these ICE officers and their, their deportation missions.
00:02:30.240 But it really isn't just like that radical, I don't know, 10th or something, but it's a very small amount of people that are willing to go out there and do that.
00:02:37.500 And what needs to happen is you need to arrest these people, which the Trump administration is doing.
00:02:43.180 You can't just arrest them for being out there. They have the right to protest, right?
00:02:46.180 So you have to wait until they, they take things a little too far.
00:02:49.320 And as we've seen from the clips, as we've seen from, you know, the Trump administration posting the pictures, the faces, the names of people who have been arrested, you know, specifically in Minneapolis for going after and, you know, just kind of crossing that line.
00:03:03.960 You can see some of the footage outside of these detention facilities, Tate, where, you know, these guys are just waiting, you know, DHS officers.
00:03:13.200 It's just deportation engines, federal agents, generally, they're waiting for these, these scumbags to just like do the thing that allows them to haul them into the facility and, and to arrest them.
00:03:24.960 So it's pretty crazy as to, but I think that the feds basically need to win in that sense.
00:03:31.860 And it feels weird to say that as a right winger, but the Trump administration needs to win probably without using the military, without doing the insurrection act.
00:03:39.440 And we need to show that you need to respect federal officers and you don't have the right to impede them.
00:03:45.360 You don't have the right to harass them, to stalk them.
00:03:48.700 And, you know, eventually you arrest enough of these people.
00:03:51.960 And I think that, you know, that kind of sends the message and, but we'll see.
00:03:56.800 I mean, there's, there's really no telling where we're going.
00:03:59.380 Yeah.
00:03:59.500 Yeah. Well, I guess to add to that, I mean, I, I agree.
00:04:04.020 Or on McIntyre, he, he put some thoughts out.
00:04:06.340 He was commentating on, on a video where ice was just making a routine arrest of these people that were impeding their, their operation.
00:04:13.860 And of course they were met with a bunch of resistance, these sorts of things.
00:04:16.260 And the thing he said, it jumped out to me was like, we've kind of joked around about it in the past, but we kind of do need a degree of reconstruction going on in the United States.
00:04:25.800 Like we do need something sort of approximating that to truly sort of reestablish some common ground.
00:04:31.380 So it's not just two completely opposing factions, but just two parties, you know, proposing maybe disagreements on economic policy.
00:04:39.020 Do you agree with his consensus?
00:04:41.380 I mean, cause that's strong language, but I look at that and it's, I'm not balking at that anymore.
00:04:44.260 Yeah, that's so many people have noticed this division that, you know, even if we're able to, the Republicans are able to win elections.
00:04:54.200 There are a lot of people out there who are, even if they're not in the majority are just not going to, you know, agree to disagree at the end of the day.
00:05:03.520 And I think the reason for that, a big part of that is that there used to be a broad consensus or a broad center in American politics.
00:05:11.640 You know, if you go back, people love bringing up the fact that, uh, you know, Barack Obama, it was either his, his initial campaign or his reelection campaign.
00:05:19.860 I think it was his latest, his reelection campaign that Barack Obama said that he believed marriage was a man and a woman.
00:05:25.440 This is Barack Hussein Obama.
00:05:27.540 Right.
00:05:27.700 Right.
00:05:28.240 Yeah.
00:05:28.420 Um, and, uh, you know, flash forward a few years later, then you've got Tucker Carlson on Fox news, um, saying that he believes that gay marriage is essentially a good thing.
00:05:36.660 You know, this is the right, it's like scariest, most right-wing pundit.
00:05:39.580 Um, you know, Hillary Clinton supported a border roll.
00:05:42.060 You have Biden with supporting the 94 crime bill.
00:05:44.300 That was a good thing.
00:05:45.540 Yeah.
00:05:45.820 I know, uh, you know, I'd see conservatives trying to own Joe Biden during, when he was in office, 94 crime bill was like pretty good.
00:05:50.940 We, we believe in law and order.
00:05:52.360 Right.
00:05:52.540 So that's just like, there used to be a broad consensus.
00:05:55.840 Now there isn't that broad consensus on like basic stuff, like children cannot become and should not become transgender, uh, that, you know, we need to actually have some level of security, ideally robust security at the Southern border.
00:06:12.000 And of course, law and order that, yeah, we support, we need to support law enforcement.
00:06:16.020 Uh, we do not side with criminals, with illegal aliens over, you know, the, the good men and women in law enforcement, federal, state, local, whatever, who are just trying to enforce the law.
00:06:29.320 So the fact that we don't have a consensus on that means there's going to be some pretty severe polarization.
00:06:36.560 I don't think we're going to see, you know, actual civil war or anything of the sort, uh, but it just means that, you know, when we're trying to accomplish an agenda that was very popular, uh, mass deportations were not exactly a secret, uh, that Trump was going to do that when he was elected.
00:06:53.160 He was, that was, that was a central promise to his campaign.
00:06:57.200 And, uh, so Trump needs to deliver that, but yeah, it's, it's, it really isn't a good sign for a country to not be able to agree on previous things that previously were, you know, fairly, fairly consensus on both sides of, of the aisle.
00:07:11.780 So it's really kind of, again, no telling where we're, where we're headed.
00:07:14.680 Yeah, that was what really jumped out to me with the, with the Renee good shooting is, you know, a lot of people were saying like, you know, what drives a society where they're middle-aged women are going out and being foot soldiers for this, you know, this cause or whatever.
00:07:28.640 And I look at that and I'm like, all of this started literally because Nick Shirley walked around and exposed like the most obvious fraud in history.
00:07:38.260 Like it's like a scandal of utmost proportion to the fact where he scalped a Democrat governor.
00:07:42.900 I mean, that's how bad the fraud was.
00:07:44.720 That's how all of this started.
00:07:46.500 Kirstie Noem says, yeah, we're going to send some DHS agents in there to mop it up. 0.98
00:07:49.560 That's what kicked all of this off.
00:07:51.180 That's what started this entire unrest, so to speak, in Minneapolis.
00:07:54.980 I mean, what does that say where you have these, these, these women like Renee good, uh, who like literally are willing to put their lives on the line for fraudsters, for murderers, for rapists, like literally the worst aspects of American society. 1.00
00:08:08.320 And they're willing to literally die for those people with kids at home.
00:08:11.780 I mean, I know we were hitting on it, but like, again, I'm just, I mean, I'm just trying to figure out how do you get out of that?
00:08:18.080 I mean, that is, that is brainwashing of the utmost proportion.
00:08:23.740 Yeah, you're right.
00:08:24.620 So those people are, unfortunately, they're not, they're not going anywhere.
00:08:29.840 Um, and, uh, you know, you can't, uh, despite what some people on Twitter would, would like to have happen.
00:08:35.120 You can't just lock people up for, uh, being a libtard essentially. 1.00
00:08:38.780 And, uh, as far as I'm aware, the Trump administration is not currently working on, uh, yeah, yeah.
00:08:44.640 I wouldn't count on Congress introducing any legislation to, uh, to, to fix that.
00:08:48.640 Maybe if we get rid of the filibuster, we'll see.
00:08:50.820 But, um, in all, in all seriousness, you know, this is something Curtis Yard has dealt with as well.
00:08:55.100 Just the idea of like, okay, even if you, like you, you, you, we almost, yeah, we almost do have red and blue America to, to pretty different countries in a way that, you know, even a few decades ago, the division was not this stark.
00:09:07.920 And the things that people bickered over politically were not like basic civilizational, you know, things, basic prerequisites for civilization, like having, you know, law enforcement or, um, having, having a border.
00:09:20.840 So I, you know, I don't know, Curtis Yard, one thing he, he will point out is look up denazification and what it took in Germany to totally expunge Nazism.
00:09:31.560 And you say totally.
00:09:32.460 And it's like, yeah, I guess there's still some like, you know, neo-Nazi biker gangs or something.
00:09:35.940 So it's, uh, you know, they're not really a serious force in German society, but what it took to totally stamp out Nazism in Germany was really extreme.
00:09:48.400 And I, I don't think American conservatives really have the stomach for doing that to lives.
00:09:57.400 Um, and I think in any society, you're going to have people that lean a little more liberal, a little more conservative again.
00:10:03.660 So it's, it's about trying to reestablish that center.
00:10:07.700 Um, and we, we just, you just need political power at the end of the day. 0.87
00:10:11.820 That's not enough.
00:10:12.500 There are always going to be Renee goods who are, um, trying to subvert and sabotage totally reasonable, um, popular, you know, plans, right-wing policy, uh, you know, sort of platforms.
00:10:26.320 But it's, if, if you have power and you're using it in the right way, um, and ideally, you know, on a long enough timeline, it's you, you rack up enough wins.
00:10:38.620 Those people don't feel as emboldened, right?
00:10:40.960 Because if, if the Renee goods of America are just sitting at home and complaining on Reddit, then it, that's, that's not really a problem.
00:10:50.140 The problem is when the Renee goods of America are going out and putting federal law enforcement in self-defense situations when they're ramming federal law enforcement with their cars. 0.96
00:11:02.140 So what I'm hoping happens here is we're able to triumph essentially in Minneapolis.
00:11:08.840 We're able to, uh, DHS is able to pull off its operation successfully and that people, it sends a message that, look, you can go out there and you're just going to get arrested.
00:11:20.140 Yeah.
00:11:20.540 I think you have the right to protest, but anything beyond that, which obviously if you've seen any of the footage, the, the freaks in Minneapolis are going well beyond, um, but, but yeah, there's a longer question, Tate, uh, a broader discussion that needs to be had about, you know, what, what is going to happen in this country, um, when, you know, even as the right wins, uh, elements of the left grow increasingly desperate and, you know, turn to violence, terrorism, and, and these sorts of things.
00:11:46.820 The last I'll say on this is, you know, people notice that the resistance, uh, if you remember that from Trump's first term, uh, was not here after Trump won.
00:11:56.160 Yeah.
00:11:56.340 You know, you had this in 2017, you had just this wave of like all of these, you know, liberals and like influencers, Democrat officials, you know, all of that.
00:12:05.280 And it was that there was very little of that after Trump won, like a lot of institutions buckled to Trump, um, you know, tech like this, the business world.
00:12:14.380 And, um, but the left, that doesn't mean everyone gave up on the left.
00:12:18.520 It means that the left realized it was losing and the more radical elements became even more radicalized.
00:12:24.620 And that's why you're seeing a lot of the stuff that you've seen.
00:12:26.700 That's why you saw, of course, the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk.
00:12:29.800 This is what you saw in the sixties and the seventies as well, you know, with the weather underground and, um, the black liberation army, these like straight up left-wing terrorist organizations, right?
00:12:39.120 That, that they did that because the sixties didn't turn into a straight up communist revolution.
00:12:44.660 There's a lot of like commie stuff in the sixties, but, uh, you know, you had, you had Nixon that won in what 68.
00:12:49.780 And, um, you know, from that point on the leftists were like, wait, this wasn't what's supposed to happen.
00:12:54.620 So they turned to terrorism and, uh, you're seeing that again now.
00:12:57.800 Yeah.
00:12:58.240 I've always made that point.
00:12:59.260 I'm like, the reason they're doing this, the reason that they do kill Charlie Kirk is because in a way they do feel backed into a corner.
00:13:04.420 So in a weird way, it's an indication that we are winning.
00:13:07.560 Um, but it just, you know, furthers the point that like, this is why you have to really stamp out every level that you have legally available to you.
00:13:15.920 Cause I mean, that, that's sort of the thing.
00:13:18.080 Like we're talking about the two different things.
00:13:19.900 I kind of want to almost steel, man, maybe the people on the right that are a little uncomfortable with what's going on, because I actually understand it.
00:13:27.540 I mean, we're on rumble, but this audience, especially has been tapped into the political zeitgeist for a long time.
00:13:33.100 They, you know, experienced the Biden winner.
00:13:35.240 They were tapped into the news cycle every day.
00:13:36.620 I, I can, I can understand the impulse to be almost hesitant when you see the federal government making these, you know, broad overtures, making these, you know, you know, these, you know, decisive decisions.
00:13:48.940 Because we're so used to that apparatus being weaponized against right wingers.
00:13:53.660 It's been this way for 60, 70 years, even when Republicans were in office, it's still in many ways, this entire apparatus was pointed towards, for all intents and purposes, oppressing the right.
00:14:03.800 I mean, making it more difficult for us to enact our means, these sorts of things.
00:14:07.720 So I can actually kind of, to a degree, understand why you're seeing a lot of these commentators on the right sort of stick their head up and kind of counter signal, for lack of a better word, some of these actions the Trump administration is making.
00:14:19.600 What would your sort of pitch be to those people, or maybe not pitch, but what would your sort of message be towards those people who are like, I don't know, what if they turn this back around on us in four years?
00:14:30.160 Like, you know, are we sure this is the correct direction to go?
00:14:33.300 So, here's what I think would happen.
00:14:38.200 Let's say, worst case scenario, you know, Vance gets the nomination.
00:14:42.700 Vance getting the nomination, so that's not the worst case scenario.
00:14:44.980 Vance gets the nomination, whoever gets the nomination, loses on the Republican side, and you get President Newsom or something.
00:14:50.920 President Newsom is going to gut ICE, is what he's going to do.
00:14:54.560 The likelihood of him keeping ICE and deploying ICE agents to harass, I guess, normal Americans, it's just, that isn't what ICE does, basically.
00:15:07.940 And so I wouldn't worry about that.
00:15:10.580 I mean, I understand, especially if you have more libertarian, inclined members of the audience, you know, there are people that are part of the MAGA coalition, to be sure, some of them.
00:15:21.040 It's just not, it's not going to happen.
00:15:23.240 And also, the Democrats will, like, do what they can to screw with the right, but they're not going to be sending ICE agents to, like, hunt right-wing people down because they posted something critical of the Democrats or something online.
00:15:38.100 That's just not really what it would look like.
00:15:39.980 They really want to gut ICE because they'll be afraid that, you know, if they keep ICE the same, like, huge level of, you know, with as many ICE agents, with all of the funding that ICE has received under Trump, thanks to the big, beautiful bill, that it's going to be, you know, that in the next Republican administration, they're going to use it.
00:16:03.800 So, like, the next time the Dems get power, they're going to try to gut ICE.
00:16:07.040 Whether or not they abolish it remains to be seen.
00:16:10.160 Those calls are obviously sort of resurfacing here.
00:16:14.260 But I think that, I think on some level the Democrats understand that they have to, like, at least pretend to be doing border security.
00:16:22.820 So, I think they would gut ICE, but they would say they're making it more efficient.
00:16:26.760 They're just saying, oh, we're not using this.
00:16:28.400 So, I'm actually not worried about that.
00:16:30.260 Now, there's a separate argument that, you know, seeing masked, you know, seeing the feds rolling, you know, like a few hundred deep, I mean, overall, there are thousands of federal agents in Minneapolis, which, as far as I'm concerned, is a good thing.
00:16:43.100 Right.
00:16:43.300 Given how lawless and anarchic it's become, there's an optics concern, though, right, because we have to win, you know, elections, we have to win midterms, we have to win.
00:16:53.160 So, you know, you can't just go, like, super hardcore and ignore public opinion.
00:16:58.560 And, you know, there's some evidence that public opinion is kind of, you know, people kind of soured a bit on the deportations.
00:17:05.240 But, you know, that is what Trump was elected to do.
00:17:09.200 So, and it's necessary for the country.
00:17:11.760 So, I'm a little more sympathetic to that one is, you know, is this going to hurt us long-term politically?
00:17:18.140 And that's why I think it's important.
00:17:19.780 I, ultimately, you do need to dispatch, like, ICE agents to go.
00:17:23.380 Because these guys are not just going out.
00:17:25.360 These guys are, you know, when they converge on a city like this, they are prioritizing.
00:17:29.780 It doesn't mean they're only going for the criminals, but they're prioritizing, like, the straight-up party criminals.
00:17:33.720 This guy, Jonathan Ross, the hero ICE Patriot, who shot in self-defense, Rene, Rene Good.
00:17:40.860 But, you know, when he previously was run over, he was dragged 300 feet, Tate.
00:17:46.680 And his arm was, because he had tried to break into the window of the car.
00:17:50.560 The guy wasn't getting out.
00:17:51.460 You know, I was thinking of law enforcement stuff.
00:17:52.740 His arm was caught in, like, the jagged broken glass.
00:17:55.780 He needed 33 stitches.
00:17:57.800 And you know what?
00:17:58.300 This illegal that he was trying to get, and I think they did get eventually, was a convicted child molester.
00:18:03.580 So, like, wow, when they're sending the feds in, these are the people, this is the scum that Rene Good and these other delusional, you know, anti-ICE libtars are trying to keep literally on the streets, keep in our country.
00:18:18.000 And it is totally despicable.
00:18:20.520 So, I think at the end of the day, these deportations are something that you need to have done.
00:18:24.980 But at the very least, we want to minimize, you know, there's going to be some friction, right?
00:18:31.060 There's going to be a little chaos.
00:18:32.740 We don't want to lean into that too much.
00:18:35.200 On social media, you know, official government Twitter accounts probably shouldn't highlight protesters getting owned by, you know, pepper spray or something of the sort.
00:18:44.240 Even though I like it, but I can, you know, we'll see the clips from other accounts.
00:18:47.680 So, I think the optics concern is good.
00:18:51.200 And also, the last thing I'd say is we also have to work toward, you know, during Operation Wetback, which prior to this was the biggest, you know, mass deportation campaign in American history, there was a 1 to 10 ratio of someone who was deported, like, physically removed from the country, and people who self-deported.
00:19:11.120 Why?
00:19:11.400 Because the other illegals are like, holy cow. 1.00
00:19:13.740 And I think that's part of Trump's tactics.
00:19:15.840 If you're in a city and you see, like, thousands of ICE agents, and it's literally the only thing people are talking about in American media, yeah, you bet.
00:19:26.320 If you're an illegal immigrant, you're getting the hell out of there. 1.00
00:19:29.880 I've seen, like, libs who are not illegal saying, like, I'm getting out of Minneapolis.
00:19:34.560 I'm scared.
00:19:34.920 So, obviously, illegals are scared as well.
00:19:38.300 So, we want there to be mass deportations.
00:19:40.740 And a lot of that is going to happen, obviously, through self-deportations.
00:19:46.060 The last thing I'll say is we don't have to physically remove all of them.
00:19:50.160 Putting on, like, a big scary show is, you know, it might spook voters a little bit.
00:19:54.100 But, yeah, it's helping get these people out on their own, which is the ideal way of doing it.
00:19:57.980 You don't want to have to physically haul every one of these, you know, I don't know how many tens of millions of illegals out of the country.
00:20:03.120 And other things, like E-Verify, other things, like making it harder for illegals to, you know, get driver's licenses, jobs, these sorts of things.
00:20:12.380 I know a lot of this happens at the state level.
00:20:14.120 But these sorts of measures need to happen in conjunction with the physical removals that ICE, so far, is doing a pretty good job of doing.
00:20:22.760 Well, yeah, because, I mean, that's the response people give with the optics question.
00:20:26.260 They're like, well, it's not politically prudent to conduct these sort of shock and awe operations.
00:20:30.440 My counterpoint is, like, you know what's not politically prudent is if you take your time and you're a little slower on these things and they start having kids and they stay in the country and they vote.
00:20:39.200 Like, that's much more politically inexpedient than just, like, ripping the Band-Aid now.
00:20:43.200 You take, like, five points off in the polls.
00:20:45.100 You can make that back up by the midterms because there's something to be said.
00:20:48.060 I mean, other guests have, you know, mentioned this on the show is, like, look, the American news cycle spins very fast.
00:20:54.200 It's a hamster wheel.
00:20:55.740 So people will get adjusted to the new standard, so to speak.
00:20:59.500 So it's, like, as you raise the ante, given enough time, people get used to that.
00:21:03.820 And then you have to, again, to spook people, you would have to raise the ante again.
00:21:07.200 Because this is the point I've made.
00:21:08.440 Part of the reason people are so dissatisfied, not everybody, but, you know, a proportion of the base is dissatisfied with sort of Trump's performance on immigration so far is because they got used to the new elevated standard.
00:21:20.200 I mean, I make this point all the time.
00:21:21.320 Like, we're at net negative migration.
00:21:23.960 Like, how crazy is that?
00:21:24.740 Like, five years ago, if you advocated for net negative migration on a conservative panel, you would have gotten, like, tossed off and called a white supremacist or something.
00:21:31.720 And then now that's the official policy of the United States government.
00:21:35.760 And it's, like, well overdue.
00:21:38.140 I mean, in many ways, we probably ran out of time, like, 15 years ago.
00:21:41.340 So it's well overdue.
00:21:42.500 But it's, like, we kind of had to stop.
00:21:45.460 It's easy for people, like Zoomers especially, I mean, because I was 14 when Trump came down the escalator. 0.97
00:21:50.460 Like, I only know politics in the context of Trump.
00:21:54.840 So maybe it's important to, like, look back and say, even compared to Trump won, hey, we've moved the football, like, 20, 30 yards down the field.
00:22:03.300 If we just keep with this momentum, we're going to be okay.
00:22:06.800 We're actually going to win.
00:22:08.340 I mean, again, this is sort of reorienting this entire apparatus.
00:22:12.260 It takes more than, you know, six months or nine months or however long we are.
00:22:15.740 We're in a year now.
00:22:17.400 We have three years left.
00:22:19.340 Vance is in decent shape or, you know, with the Republican Party in general is poised to at least be competitive in 28.
00:22:25.260 Like, let's just take our time.
00:22:27.360 Because, again, and then you'll have these people.
00:22:29.960 It's a lot of people on the left, too, where they're, like, critical of the optics and the shock and all.
00:22:33.820 But then they're also, like, complaining about how the mass deportations are too slow.
00:22:37.460 I'm, like, what did you think this was going to look like?
00:22:39.820 I got clipped by Media Matters because I said, like, you know, when the podcast bros were, like, wow, these ICE videos, they look pretty bad.
00:22:46.680 Like, I don't know.
00:22:47.180 This seems a little too brutal.
00:22:48.400 And I just said, like, what did you think an ICE operation looked like?
00:22:52.580 Do you think these people are just going to comply?
00:22:53.860 These are literally hardened criminals.
00:22:55.680 Of course it's going to get a little, like, ugly.
00:22:57.780 That's just how this works.
00:22:58.900 And then they clipped me as if this was supposedly, like, I'm some crazy radical.
00:23:02.280 It's a crazy thing to say.
00:23:03.340 How could you?
00:23:04.140 Yeah.
00:23:04.400 Yeah.
00:23:04.580 So it's just, like, I know you're seeing the same stuff.
00:23:07.900 And it's just, like, let's stop and take a look at where we are.
00:23:11.820 Yeah, there's a lot of idiocy online.
00:23:13.800 It is what it is.
00:23:15.440 Look, it, yeah.
00:23:17.320 No, look, during the first Trump term, we, Trump has done more in one year than he did in his first term.
00:23:24.660 And that's what a lot of people have forgotten.
00:23:26.400 Also, no one was talking about most of these issues, certainly not at the national political level.
00:23:34.760 In 2012, when Romney was challenging Barack Obama in one of their presidential, you know, one of the debates, the moderator asked Mitt Romney, what would you do about, you know, all of these illegals in the country or, you know, some equivalent, you know, something along those lines. 0.51
00:23:51.100 And he said he advocated for self-deportation.
00:23:53.800 Now, we hear that and we say, well, yeah, but that's, you know, just you have to do something to make these people self-deport.
00:24:00.620 Right.
00:24:00.940 Well, even just saying something as milquetoast as that garnered, you know, immense, you know, created a lot of controversy.
00:24:09.360 Even Rens Priebus, who was the chair of the RNC at that time, he denounced those comments as, and I quote, heinous.
00:24:16.900 So this is, this is the pre-Trump GOP.
00:24:19.520 And yeah, you Zoomers out there, especially you younger ones, I know you get it, Tate, but some of them have just, all they've known politically is Trump.
00:24:27.640 So they're like, why isn't, why isn't Trump opened up a portal to a Garfield yet?
00:24:30.820 It's like, well, you know, first of all, that was never really one of his campaign promises.
00:24:35.040 Yeah.
00:24:35.300 You know, maybe we wait till 28 with Vance and he, he will deliver something, probably something like that on the, on the campaign trail.
00:24:41.640 But it, yeah, people just get really accustomed to things.
00:24:46.780 Things change for the better than they become accustomed to that as, as the new normal.
00:24:50.920 And then they just become, they resume their, you know, high expectations and, you know, it's okay to have high expectations.
00:24:59.400 You just have to be realistic.
00:25:00.700 There are a lot of things that I would like Trump to do that he's not going to do.
00:25:04.840 I would like an immigration moratorium or some kind of legislation that would considerably limit legal immigration into this country.
00:25:12.220 Because a lot of the bad stuff that happens, Tate, through immigration happens regardless of whether the people come in legally or illegally. 1.00
00:25:19.360 Look at Minneapolis when they're, when they're busting these fraud rings, most of the Somalis who get charged are U.S. citizens.
00:25:28.320 These are not people that like should have been, had, had that offer to become citizens in the first place.
00:25:34.200 Yeah.
00:25:34.880 So I, you know, there's, there's stuff that we can be critical of with Trump, but you just got to remember things have moved very far in the right direction.
00:25:42.740 There's a lot of good stuff happening.
00:25:44.300 And there are people online that are trying to turn you against Trump because selling outrage porn is the only way that they can stay relevant as influencers.
00:25:53.800 So you people, you know, watching this in the audience, I would encourage them to just kind of be on the lookout for that.
00:25:59.060 Are these people, a lot of these people are, are trying to lead you astray.
00:26:02.360 They're trying to turn you against Trump because they view they're, they're more concerned with their own career as, as an influencer.
00:26:09.420 Or, um, yeah, so it's, uh, but yeah, no, things, things are going pretty well overall.
00:26:13.920 There's a lot that needs to happen in the remainder of Trump's, uh, second term.
00:26:17.500 Um, but like I said, in his first term on basically every major issue on immigration, right.
00:26:22.900 Ended the border crisis almost overnight.
00:26:25.200 Yeah.
00:26:25.500 Um, and you know, people don't give him really credit for that.
00:26:27.500 It's, I guess, just once you solve a problem that no one's talking about it anymore.
00:26:30.500 But yeah, he, he spent four years during his first term, like trying to figure out how to get a handle on, on the Southern border.
00:26:36.680 And he just, you know, by the end, he figured out what to do.
00:26:38.920 Okay.
00:26:39.080 Well, like by, you know, week one of this term, he basically solved the problem.
00:26:44.460 We've gotten that negative migration.
00:26:45.900 As you've pointed out, he secured the single greatest increase in immigration enforcement funding in U S history.
00:26:51.760 Uh, he's taken an ax to this anti-white sort of civil rights bureaucracy.
00:26:56.700 He's done the most damage to anti-white discrimination and similar policies since these policies were introduced in the sixties.
00:27:02.640 You know, everyone, all for all, everyone wants to talk about Reagan and Nixon, these sort of anti deep state, um, you know, like meritocracy figures, I guess.
00:27:11.560 Um, although, uh, Nixon was the last of the, the sort of the great society, uh, presidents, but, um, they, they did nothing even remotely approaching what Donald Trump has done.
00:27:21.500 Um, uh, to combat this insane race, communist, uh, bureaucracy that's, that's, you know, festered in the, in the American government. 0.62
00:27:29.300 So there's, and there's a lot of other great stuff that's happened just in the first year.
00:27:32.760 And I'm sure there's plenty, plenty more to come.
00:27:35.060 Yeah.
00:27:35.620 That was so funny.
00:27:36.620 The clip the other day with Trump, where, uh, he was just kind of like off of this, you know, he just instinctually understands these things.
00:27:41.740 Cause he was just like kind of throwing the idea around with, with the anti-white racism, sort of how to combat it.
00:27:46.980 And he's just like, yeah, yeah.
00:27:48.640 They're just like really getting roughed up out there.
00:27:50.340 Like he, he doesn't have these like elaborate political philosophies and like these nerdy, like wonky, you know, policy institutes that he's reading.
00:27:57.940 He just instinctually understands a lot of these issues right away.
00:28:02.580 Sometimes the policy comes out, you know, a little sloppy sometimes, but it's like, again, you just look at these things.
00:28:08.500 You look at the record, you look at the wins we've had, and you're like, this is just clearly someone who instinctually understands these things.
00:28:15.040 This is clearly someone who, um, is able to assemble a team that's directionally correct.
00:28:21.280 And I just don't really understand why you would throw a, you know, something in the spokes other than, like you said, that's just kind of self-interest almost.
00:28:29.200 And this is also interesting when, when Trump won, I, I didn't understand this impetus from a lot of people, a lot of really, you know, guys that I respect and like a lot where they were saying like,
00:28:37.900 look, the conservative movement is not poised to, to govern.
00:28:41.760 They're not poised to lead.
00:28:42.740 And I was like, what do you mean?
00:28:44.100 Like, you know, Trump, like this team he's assembling is fantastic.
00:28:46.420 I didn't realize he was talking about everyone else.
00:28:48.740 I didn't realize that they were talking about like, as soon as we are in a position to lead, suddenly we would lose faith in ourselves to wield power.
00:28:54.760 And people would get like suspicious or skeptical and it would just turn into a massive dog pile.
00:28:59.720 And that in many ways is what's happened, but I mean, that's why Trump, it's great that he's president because that gives us something to rally or rally around.
00:29:06.960 But yeah, with that, Pat, I want your final thoughts and more importantly, where people can find you for more.
00:29:13.640 Great final thoughts.
00:29:15.020 Well, you really can't respect the officers who are going out and doing this work enough.
00:29:22.280 They really, you know, if you know any of them, you know, buy him a drink or something, basically, because these people understand, especially in the aftermath of the Jonathan Ross shooting, a justified shooting of Rene Gold, that they're, they're risking their reputations.
00:29:39.540 I mean, his family basically had to go into hiding, you know, how insane people on the other side are.
00:29:44.080 They're risking, you know, obviously they're putting their lives on the line.
00:29:48.380 They're risking their safety, you know, they're risking, you know, you know, dad not coming home, you know, it's crazy stuff.
00:29:55.620 And also they're risking the potential for, you know, serious legal problems in the event that whenever there's a subsequent Democrat administration.
00:30:05.740 So these, these guys and gals, because I guess some of them are women too, deserve all of our respect.
00:30:11.120 They deserve praise on social media.
00:30:12.920 You know, that's, that's, uh, what little we can do, but, um, you know, I know people involved in this sort of work and yeah, they like, they're on social media.
00:30:20.460 They like, you know, it's good to see that there are people out there that, you know, that, that don't hate them.
00:30:25.280 So we, we just definitely have to let that be known.
00:30:28.280 And, um, yeah, that's, uh, that's basically all I have here.
00:30:32.280 So yeah, people can go to patrickcasey.com.
00:30:34.440 They can follow me on X at restore order USA.
00:30:38.020 And that's also my Instagram, uh, username.
00:30:41.400 I'm, uh, I'm newly on Instagram.
00:30:43.520 I made one in 2020 and was banned in 24 hours.
00:30:46.980 Uh, not even for anything I posted, just like, Hey, there's this guy on, I'll get this guy off.
00:30:52.000 But now I'm on there and, um, here to, I appear to be lasting.
00:30:56.260 So he's got some good reels on there.
00:30:57.780 Unk still got it.
00:30:58.800 Unk has still got it.
00:30:59.780 Unk has still got it.
00:31:00.140 That's right.
00:31:00.520 It's so true. 0.84
00:31:01.140 So, well, Pat, thank you so much for hopping on, man.
00:31:02.900 We'll see you soon.
00:31:03.860 Thank you, Tate.
00:31:04.480 Alrighty.
00:31:04.800 Alrighty.
00:31:05.760 Well, that was, that was a great pack case.
00:31:07.440 That was fantastic.
00:31:08.100 Yeah, it's so true.
00:31:09.480 I mean, the, the incentive structure on the right for the longest time is bended towards
00:31:13.640 contrarianism is bended towards, you know, nitpicking these sorts of things.
00:31:16.640 And it's totally, totally justified.
00:31:18.160 I'm not downplaying that.
00:31:19.580 Um, but Pat laid out pretty well, like things are directionally correct.
00:31:23.940 Things are moving in the right direction.
00:31:25.720 Minneapolis.
00:31:26.460 I agree.
00:31:27.380 Like if we can mop this up without having to like completely, uh, break everything, that's,
00:31:32.160 that's great.
00:31:32.720 Cause we still have to win elections.
00:31:34.560 I mean, it's unfortunate, but it's true.
00:31:36.640 So with that, we're going to get the rate for DeVorey Darkins going, uh, Serge, I don't
00:31:39.800 know if you want to get that fired up.
00:31:41.340 Um, I'll wind on the show here.
00:31:42.700 We're like a minute over time.
00:31:43.960 So thank you very much for watching on this beautiful, beautiful Monday.
00:31:47.640 Um, great, great to be back.
00:31:49.800 And, uh, we'll have some more, uh, exciting stuff over the week heading for you.
00:31:54.000 We got a Tim guest IRL tonight at 8 PM, be there or be square.
00:31:57.940 Follow me on X and Instagram at real tape Brown.
00:32:02.040 Come hang out.
00:32:03.240 Uh, we're having a great time as always.
00:32:05.360 And we're going to send you all over to DeVorey Darkins and, uh, you guys can go hang
00:32:09.180 out with him with that.
00:32:10.900 We'll see you tonight.
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