Who Really Killed Charlie Kirk? Truth Behind Kirk Assassination w⧸ Myron Gaines & Ryan Matta
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Summary
It's been 16 days since Charlie Kirk was shot and killed in broad daylight in the early morning hours of December 18th, 2014. Since then, conspiracy theories have been flying around the internet about who could have been behind the attack, and why it could have happened. On this episode of the Freshly Fit Podcast, we take a deep dive into these theories and try to find the truth behind them.
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It has been 16 days since Charlie Kirk was assassinated. And, you know, I'll just throw
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my cards out there. I largely believe what we're getting from the FBI is correct, though there are
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a lot of questions about it because, look, we're not children. You don't need to just blindly believe
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everything the government tells you. But when we break down all of the theories running wild,
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I think the simple narrative that we are getting tends to be the correct one. But there are a lot
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of unanswered questions, even if you do believe the work of Cash, Dan, and Pam Bondi. There are
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questions about how could this have been a lone shooter? How could people have had foreknowledge
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posting on social media seemingly knowing this was going to happen? Because of these things,
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because of ballistics, there have been dozens of videos which have cracked millions of views claiming
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new evidence, new conspiracies, trap doors, cement being poured, palm guns, a man hiding in the bushes.
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What is true? Well, we don't really know for sure, but we're going to discuss it, debate it, break it
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down, and have a general conversation over why people are saying the things they're saying. But I'll just
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start with this, just so you guys know my position. I want to make sure it's clear. There's a lot of
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money to be made in a lot of these narratives. And I think if you came out and said, we don't
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actually know, well, for the most part, people aren't going to click that video. But if you make
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a video titled, Who Really Killed Charlie Kirk? The Truth Behind the Kirk Assassination, maybe people
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will click that one, which is what we titled this video. But I think it's because I actually want to
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take a look at all of this stuff. Some of these videos, I believe, are easily debunked,
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which is really frustrating to see six million views on a video where within three seconds,
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I'm not trying to be a dick, but the dude contradicts his own argument. So I think it's
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We've got a couple of guests joining us to talk about all of this. Ryan, you want to go first?
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Yeah, I'm Ryan Matta, documentary filmmaker, investigative journalist, and yeah, thanks
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I'm Ryan Gaines, one half of the Freshly Fit Podcast, man. Happy to be here.
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Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Bonti. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal and all that remains
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when anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. Let's get into it.
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So let me just pull up this story first, and we're going to start with some of these theories.
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I also want to stress that any information we don't have, as we're basically trying to do a
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deep dive on all this stuff, comments, rant, and chat, if you have any information you want us to
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pull up and look at, and we'll take a look at this, and we will try to assess it, and we'll break all
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this down. Let me actually start by saying this, what we think we know. And I say that because the
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investigation is ongoing, and I don't think, I think a lot of people are trying to claim the
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FBI is lying to us and all that. No, I think Cash has been as honest as he can be. I mean,
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he's working into a degree in intelligence, so he can't just leak all this information,
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especially if they're building a case. But I believe we are getting pretty much as close to
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the real story from the feds. I also think it's fair to point out, even Cash has stated,
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they're looking at every angle. They're looking at possible other shooters. Any information or tips
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that people have, they're trying to figure this one out, same as everybody else.
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But we've got, the official story that we have now is, there is a man who was accused of shooting
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Charlie Kirk. He was on a roof with a bolt-action .30-06. He was motivated by the hatred spread
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by Charlie, according to this official story, and he shot Charlie in the neck right around the time
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that Charlie was answering a question about trans mass shooters. This individual was seen limping
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on a private security camera towards the UVU. He was seen on video on the roof fleeing after the
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shot was taken, apparently holding something that appears to be a gun. The bullets, as reported by
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the feds, had engravings on it with memes and messages. And this individual had a long conversation
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with his transgender boyfriend, basically saying, here's why I did it. And, you know, here's what I
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was doing. Now, there are questions that people have that I think are warranted, such as the
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ballistics, which I think can be answered. I think certainly people who are tracking ballistics are making
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interesting points, but I think there's a lot of people that are jumping the gun and saying outright,
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oh, it's not possible. It's not possible. Well, it is possible. And we'll get to that stuff in the
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greater conversation. But as to the story that we have so far, everyone has questioned the
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conversation between the boyfriend and the alleged shooter because it reads very scripted. At the bare
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minimum, it's transposed because it's not a single typo. Matt Walsh has suggested that the boyfriend was
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involved. And this message was to create reasonable doubt in a potential court hearing. There's also
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other information. This is confirmed. The FBI is investigating discord chats and other potential
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groups, these queer and trans rifle groups, because there were at least there were seven accounts
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online that had foreknowledge or presented information that appeared to show foreknowledge
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of the assassination plot, indicating it's likely not a lone wolf. But that being said,
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before we dive into some of these conspiracy theories, we'll just throw it to you guys and
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I'll ask you guys what you think is going on. Yeah. So I think we got a lot of misguided stories
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from the FBI and from our government and then from the mainstream media. It seems like that they're
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using the media to basically present and push out a narrative. And then once we tear apart that
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narrative, they're coming back and saying, oh, wait, there was no official FBI statement. So I think
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we should start at the very beginning. And the first big break in the story, I think, was when Blake
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Bednarz, went through all the footage and he realized, he said, hey, the people in the cafeteria,
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and I showed this to Myron on the way here, you can see the people that in the cafeteria that filmed
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the video of the man running across the roof, right? At that exact point that they're filming
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that, you're seeing the crowd out there scrouching down. So then I go outside and I go, okay,
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let's start a video at the exact moment that Charlie gets shot. And I go, I'm going to press play and
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you're going to hear bang. And then we count one, 1,000, two, 1,000. I'm also using the timer on the
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computer to, from the video thread, it's three seconds from the time that Charlie stretched,
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from the time that that shot goes off to the time that crowd's sitting down. So then you go back to
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the camera on the inside and you see the man running on the roof is in a full sprint. Within
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three seconds of Charlie being shot, 100% fact, we know whoever that man was on the low C building
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on that roof is in a full sprint with or without his rifle in hand within three seconds. So then I
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hired a journalist to go back to the crime scene and actually film. I wanted to see the video,
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the camera, the CCTV footage that was used that the FBI gave us. So the FBI gives us the footage,
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which is timestamped on the date and time at 1223.34 it starts. So at 34, it starts and you see
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him running across the roof. Okay. So three seconds prior to that video footage that the FBI gave us
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would have shown this man laying in the prone position and taking that shot. So I'm not trying
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to push any narrative. I'm saying at the very least, what I want is just 10 seconds, 15 seconds longer
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of the video that you've already gave us. Then he went back to the crime scene and there's not only one
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CCTV camera there, there's two cameras. And I showed this to Myron as well. I just want to clarify that
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when you're discussing the three seconds, are you referring to device timestamps or are you saying
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regardless of the time it was in the video, it was three seconds? I'm saying in the video in the
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cafeteria, he's running on the roof. You see that. And then you see the crowd scratching down. The crowd
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in that video just realized Charlie had been shot. So then I went to the outside video and I'm watching
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and I watched the shot go off and you hear bang and I go, okay, I'm just watching the timestamp on the
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video. How long it takes the crowd to actually start scratching down. And that's roughly the
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video for them so they can see. Yeah, you can, if you want, I can airdrop it to you. Do you have
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it on a, is it, you have an X? I do have it on X. I can go to your X account. That way the audience
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can kind of hear. I mean, my, my thing on this is, uh, which, uh, yeah, I got to find it. It's
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going to, I put Ryan Mata eight, uh, Ryan Mata media. Yeah. The, the, the information around this
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case is changing like every day. So, so, so, so let me try and understand what you're saying
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though. So in both videos, it's three seconds. Yeah. It takes the crowd three seconds to sit
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down. And then you go back into the cafeteria and you go, look at the, you're watching the
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crowd. You're saying the crowd in the cafeteria ducked before the crowd outside. I'm, I'm,
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no, I'm saying you're seeing him in the cafeteria view. You see the man running across the roof
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and you know that he's running. And in that video, you can also see the crowd starting to
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scratch down. It's very popular. You guys have probably seen it. It was on the first day it came
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out. The shooting happened. Everyone's like someone's recording inside a building.
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And you can see a dark figure running across the roof. Right. I remember that for sure.
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Which we'll show it for the audience. But I'm just, just. How do I, how do I airdrop this
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to you? You, you can't. Fuck. Well, I'm trying to understand what, what you're saying between
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these two videos. I don't understand. Yeah. Just watch the press play. So it's the time
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difference between the motion of the crowd and the motion. I know, but what does that
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mean? That means that the man is running on the roof within three seconds of the shot being
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fired. Yeah. Okay. So you're a sniper, you're laying on the roof, you take this shot and
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somehow you magically are up in a full sprint with the rifle in hand within three
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seconds. Have you ever, have you ever, but three seconds is a long time. I know. But
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what I'm saying is the, I just want the FBI to release the video. If they would have
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released it, they released it specifically three seconds after Charlie was shot. I think
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there's a screenshot. Press play. No, it's a FOIA request. Scroll left to right. It's an image.
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He made a FOIA request? Actually, it's annoying. A gentleman made the first FOIA request
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two days ago. Okay. So one thing that bothers me about this. Sorry. You guys ever say the
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Mythbusters thing where they test a knife versus a gun and it's like at 21 yards, you can stab
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a guy before he can draw on you. Oh, when I was in the academy and for the audience that
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doesn't know, I used to be an agent with Homeland Security Investigations. They would show you
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that stuff all the time to train you like, Hey, if someone has a knife, you need to get your
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gun out as quickly as possible because they can close the distance. It's one of the core
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things they teach you in every law enforcement academy. That's what I'm saying. I agree with
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your point on the, we should get more. Where's the rest of the footage of this? But, and I'm
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not saying this, I'm just, I'm just kind of adding this in my view. It looks like it makes
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sense that someone took a shot and then immediately just bolted. Yep. And then can I add to this?
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Yeah. So then Candace goes, yeah, two days ago, she went and tracked down the very first
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video of the guys that are kind of walking up and they go, Hey, is there somebody on that
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roof up there? Yeah. Okay. So in there, in that video, they're going, man, the guy just ran across.
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Is he already in position? So Candace went and got the timestamp of that video. That's at 1222.
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So this man runs across the roof. This is what we know. This is just the evidence that we've
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been presented, right? The man runs across the roof, gets into prone position, takes the shot and
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fires the shot within one minute. And then within three seconds is in a full sprint off that roof.
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And there's two cameras that the FBI has, two CCTV videos that we know that they have.
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And that's all I'm asking for is you guys want to prove this narrative. Then it's so simple.
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Just released the video that shows him taking that shot and getting up and grabbing his rifle.
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And then we can put all the conspiracy theories. Let me add to that. That's what has me skeptical.
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The official narrative has me very skeptical on a couple of things. And one of the things that
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bothers me is like, remember when they released that footage, when they were trying to identify
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him and he jumps off? Yeah. They don't show you where he's there and takes the shot. Right.
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So I'm like, why did you guys not show us that so that we can like literally see him taking a shot,
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getting up, running across so that we know he's a shooter. They purposely left that out.
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Well, yeah. But is that, is that like sensitivity reasons maybe? Like we don't want to show the
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actual murder. Well, here's, here's the thing. I think if you're going to put it out anyway to
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try to get the guy identified, you should put out everything. Well, and the fact that they didn't
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show that bothers me. I mean, I actually, I would defer to you. You, you did law enforcement.
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My concern would be, could that compromise a criminal invest, a criminal case against him?
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No, because, um, there's something in it that is identifying that if you release to the public,
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you could get false confessions or right. They don't want it. They don't, maybe he did something
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unique that they can prove in court that nobody knows. And they don't want these, you know?
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Yeah, of course. But when you got a case of this type of magnitude where, you know, you have an
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enormous burden of, of, you know, bearing some type of public trust and people asking questions,
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and obviously Cash Patel is like, look, I'm going to try to be the most transparent FBI.
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Um, they should release that. And what I will also say is that I think it's important that we
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understand that he was charged by the state, which means since he was charged by the state,
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it's actually the, uh, Utah law enforcement locals that are running the case, actually DPS.
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Well, it's not FBI that's lead like people think.
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I thought the, the feds are trying to bring charges.
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They are, but at this point, the state's running the criminal investigation since it's going through a
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Well, if the state's looking to bring charges, wouldn't the state say, look, these, this is the evidence
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that we don't want you to make public because we're building a case?
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You could, I mean, I mean, I don't see, if you already released the footage in an effort
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to try to identify the guy when he's jumping off, I don't see why, uh, not releasing him
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taking the shot would be, or at least him in a prone position.
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You can at least show us that, but it's, it is very skeptical.
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I'm very skeptical of the fact that it didn't show everything from that point, since they
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And then the fact that there's a second camera angle.
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I do want to just start because this, this, this, I, I, I appreciate tremendously.
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Like these videos of palm guns and other weird stuff.
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There's like five conspiracies where everyone's arguing, like of their five magic shooters,
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And that's a big reason why I think they need to release it because now, right.
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Like you're in a position, you're in a weird spot because this is a huge case.
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We already know that no one trusts the FBI anymore.
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So it's like, yeah, is it going to hurt your investigation significantly when you already
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released a portion of the video from a criminal investigator standpoint?
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Unless there's something in the video we don't know that they don't want to release.
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They, they, there, there may be something I would say this.
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And that I think in, in most circumstances, the probability is they should release it so
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that we know, and it puts all of this stuff to bed because dude, I, it is frustrating when
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I'm like watching these videos that are intentional click and rage bait that are distracting.
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I've made this point about conspiracy theories quite a bit.
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One of the strategies of intelligence agencies to kill a conspiracy theory is to throw
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So, but, but I would say, so I agree with you, but then I would also wonder what if there's
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like, this is the 5% time where there's something unique to the case we don't know that could
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Like what if there is a potential link between, let's put it this way.
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And it's just hyper speculation to make an example.
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The conversation between the suspected assassin and the transfery boyfriend is, well, I'm
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just trying to be factual, is no one believes it's real.
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Like from the far left to the far right to up, down, left, right, everyone's like, are
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Like I would take, I think a little bit of leverage in a criminal investigation to get
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So Matt Walsh's theory is that they scripted this conversation immediately afterwards to
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create reasonable doubt in the event the boyfriend's ever charged with something as an accomplice.
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The boyfriend can, they then go to trial and say, look at this message.
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It proves the boyfriend didn't know, or at bare minimum presents reasonable doubt.
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There have been some people have said, trust me, I like, there are these online accounts that
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tracked the far left and they're like, these wacko, transfury internet anime dudes literally
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talk like this because they've got some kind of like developmental, weird social thing.
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But, and this is again, just for the purpose of example, what if in the video it shows potential
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contact or some kind of connection between the boyfriend and accomplice and the shooter,
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they're not releasing it because they don't want the public to get access to this information,
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which could benefit a trans cult that did this.
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Like they don't want, there's, they're investigating this, this Utah based trans queer
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rifle group or whatever, as well as a bunch of discord groups, cash and the Utah government
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may be thinking, we don't want them to know we have this information.
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They will use that to their advantage to try and escape or get away with it or craft,
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So the first thing that they told us was there was this big plot on discord.
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And then the day after the CEO of discord comes out and says, we've reviewed every single
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piece of communication that Tyler made on discord.
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And there was never any plotting or planning of any type of violence.
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Now, when you talk about conspiracy theories, so Blake Bednar is the man who also broke the
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Blake is working with a group of independent journalists.
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These are students at the university that have been just relentless at about going through
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So in the original video, that 60 minute live stream, there's a part of the video where you
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That's directly across from Charlie, probably 45, 50 yards out.
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And he's filming with this high end Sony camera.
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And yesterday for the first time, we were able to see what actually happened in a really
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And in that video you see, and I showed it to Myron on the way here, you see, and I sent
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it to Tim news IRL, uh, on X, if you want to pull it up his Blake, Blake Bednar's, you
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see a device, something goes off under his shirt.
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Now this is the first conspiracy theory that I've actually entertained the thought of.
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Something goes off and you see this thing go up into his shirt.
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It's like something was under his shirt and it goes up like this and it snaps.
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And then at the same time, the necklace, he's wearing a steel necklace or a silver necklace.
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The necklace snaps in the front and then blows off over his head.
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For the first time we actually see the cloud of like, is it a cloud of dust or a cloud of
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That was a big leap from there's something in the video to a detonation occurred under
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How do you explain what this, like what would cause this dust?
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Maybe it was just the way his body reacted and the mic kind of came up and something broke
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in the mic that when the, when the necklace broke, it kind of broke that thing, but something
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It goes up into his shirt and then instantly snaps back down in slow motion.
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And all the experts that were saying that he originally was wearing a bulletproof vest,
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they're going, you're watching something like they said that.
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Well, they were, they're saying that his body reacted before you actually seen the hole.
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Then all of a sudden it was like something hit the vest and the bullet shot up into his
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Like, you know this, you're not going to, you're going to see the body hit before you're
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And then people started saying, oh no, it's a, it's a central plate over his heart.
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The thing is, is that there's so many different, because with this situation, first it was
00:20:00.040
he had bullet, you know, bulletproof armor and it ricocheted up and hit him in the neck.
00:20:06.200
Then it's like, oh no, the device exploded, you know, under his shirt.
00:20:09.380
Other people said, well, the rifle is so powerful that, you know, it just blew the shirt up.
00:20:13.220
Like I've heard so many different theories and it's like, at this point, I don't know what
00:20:19.700
You know, I'm obviously like looking at all the evidence.
00:20:21.400
I'm just extremely skeptical of everything they've been telling us because it's like,
00:20:24.240
you know, one thing comes out and they're like, oh no, that's not true.
00:20:26.940
Like, I just heard that the, uh, the rifle, you were telling me that they had the picture
00:20:32.440
There's no, I'm pretty, no serial number on the rifle.
00:20:35.620
So, so the first thing is the photo that came out of the rifle.
00:20:54.740
But if you got hit by that round, it would have like, nah, that one I disagree with.
00:20:59.380
And I want to say this too, is there's no official, there's no official reporting that
00:21:03.960
That is only came from the turning point team that the, the, the, the January who released
00:21:07.760
that in the indictment, it says bolt action rifle.
00:21:10.140
So what the FBI has been doing is they've been coming back and after we eat their theories
00:21:13.520
apart, they go, wait, where'd you hear that at?
00:21:16.140
We never said that that came from the media or somebody else.
00:21:19.100
I'm saying there's no, no, nothing official that I've seen yet.
00:21:25.360
Cause everyone has been every 30 odd six, 30 odd six.
00:21:29.460
So maybe somebody in the live chat can pull up an FBI document or something official that
00:21:39.600
In the, in the indictment, in the charges, it was that, that, that, that DOJ document.
00:21:43.700
And that came from ATF, by the way, the lead agency on guns.
00:21:47.740
Because in the charging document, it only says bolt action rifle.
00:21:49.960
That was a 10 page PDF that they released five or six days ago.
00:21:54.200
Keep in mind with these criminal complaints, they don't have, they put the minimum for
00:21:57.880
So like, you know, when, when I was an agent, you're going to put the least amount you need
00:22:01.340
just to get paper on them and put them in jail.
00:22:02.720
So let me, let me, let me, let me pull this in.
00:22:06.640
So this is DOJ.gov ATF document that says, it'll probably be easier to read if I just
00:22:12.520
It says the ATF and other law enforcement located an older model imported Mauser 30
00:22:16.100
out six caliber bolt action rifle wrapped in a towel in a wooded area near the campus.
00:22:24.020
It's, it's, it's, it's, it's still fair to say this does not confirm it.
00:22:33.160
And the reason why is this is the initial report they got, which also mentions cartridge
00:22:38.740
expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology.
00:22:41.040
It is fair to say that what was written on that could be better described.
00:22:46.920
Transgender and anti-fascist ideology is not incorrect, but is it possible that the initial
00:22:51.400
report from the ATF when they found the rifle was the presumption of a 30 out six, they included
00:22:56.000
And then later they're like, Oh, actually it was a 308.
00:23:03.980
But I will say this, they subpoenaed him for this.
00:23:11.840
It's probably mostly accurate because the fact that they subpoenaed him so quickly after
00:23:19.200
I'm just, I'm just saying, is it possible when the ATF and when the law enforcement found
00:23:23.920
it, a guy who didn't know said 30 at six, but wasn't sure, like made a mistake.
00:23:28.260
Nah, all those guys at ATF for, no, no, no, this was law enforcement who recovered
00:23:32.300
No, no, no, but this is, this is internal documents from the ATF.
00:23:35.080
And we don't even know if that was what they're saying.
00:23:42.300
They have one of the most intensive academies when it comes to firearms and identifying firearms,
00:23:46.500
because if you charge someone with an 18 UOC 922, right, which is found in possession of
00:23:50.780
a firearm, one of the things you need to establish is something called interstate nexus.
00:23:54.260
And for you to establish interstate nexus, you need to have the firearm, do a test fire,
00:23:58.780
and then establish that different parts of that gun come from different places, therefore
00:24:05.220
So everyone at the ATF, especially the agents, all have a ridiculous amount of knowledge
00:24:10.060
for the guns, because they have a very difficult test to graduate their academy.
00:24:13.180
This is, this is actually a really good breakdown, or a pause point to say, you, we're not even
00:24:22.920
We don't know for sure this is the gun that he had.
00:24:30.160
And if there was multiple people involved, that could have been the trans boyfriend's gun that
00:24:38.400
And again, why the messages are so weird, that may have been crafted.
00:24:42.260
This is, listen, what if the, some have speculated the trans boyfriend is the actual shooter
00:24:49.260
and that the guy who got arrested is just taking the fall for it.
00:24:53.220
I mean, honestly, we have no idea, but you make a good point.
00:24:55.560
What if the reason those messages were crafted was because the boyfriend was like, uh-oh,
00:25:06.040
Well, people have said, the neighbors have said the house, the mail is piling up.
00:25:16.880
I think it's absolutely fair to look at all the evidence laid before us.
00:25:20.920
But you made a great point that the FBI has not formally stated it's a 30 at six.
00:25:26.980
The knowledge of this comes from a leaked message for which Crowder has been subpoenaed for.
00:25:34.400
But my point is, a weapon was found does not mean weapon was used.
00:25:41.860
I would lean towards, I think, the feds are probably looking at this suspected shooter
00:25:48.720
being like, we know we got them, but we don't get how.
00:25:52.180
Like, how does this all come together and make sense?
00:25:54.760
These other narratives about palm guns, and I'm going to say it, the Israel stuff, I'm
00:26:02.040
Like, literally within three hours, people were like, Israel did it.
00:26:09.900
It's got six million views from Range Day Bro, which I'm not going to show.
00:26:16.980
But I just got to say to Range Day Bro, I watched the video, and there's a point where
00:26:22.580
he explains that Charlie Kirk was shot from behind, but then shows a video of the people
00:26:27.260
in front of Charlie Kirk and says, that's where the shooter may have been.
00:26:30.340
And I'm like, but that's in front of Charlie Kirk.
00:26:32.820
So how could it have come from behind and the front?
00:26:35.020
That being said, he points to this grainy image, which I might be able to highlight without
00:26:44.740
So this right here is what he says is, in front of Charlie Kirk is a bush, which appears
00:26:56.020
It is a grainy blotch for which I have no idea what that is.
00:27:02.280
Do you want to know what the funniest thing is, though?
00:27:13.300
I'm going to pull up this image so you can see what it showed me.
00:27:16.300
When, let me see if I can, I got it right here.
00:27:34.700
I took a screenshot and I wrote, enhance this image to full clarity.
00:27:38.120
And it gave me an image of Joe Biden in, in, in, in camera.
00:27:47.280
So anyway, I'll just, there's a lot of people who are getting angry about the conspiracy
00:27:54.500
And my attitude is, I think it is important that we assess this stuff.
00:28:01.580
I think you're actually bringing up really great points about what we do know and what's
00:28:09.840
I think the best way to handle this is like, as evidence comes in, you'd be, keep an open
00:28:14.140
mind, analyze the evidence, see how credible it is, link it with whatever other evidence
00:28:18.780
And you know, there's just been so many different theories that have come out there.
00:28:24.180
Palm gun, Israel, um, shooter behind him, uh, the, the, the flash in the corner, flash
00:28:40.100
Um, Zinn, you know, act, you know, there's so many different, you know, he's definitely
00:28:44.420
You know what the, the, you know about the trap door, right?
00:28:49.580
You know what, you know what, you know what, you know what, and you know what one of the theories
00:28:57.740
The phone calls that I was getting of people like freaking out, crying.
00:29:02.220
I'm like, this is, they killed Charlie Kirk, dude.
00:29:05.220
And it's weird to me that these conspiracy theories are, you know, is it for views?
00:29:10.220
I don't know, but it's effectively absolving violent far leftists that have been threatening
00:29:19.360
A lot of the, the conspiracy theorists, I try, I really still believe that there are
00:29:23.720
so many people that feel like they got taken by the government when it comes to the COVID
00:29:28.020
narrative or, or other things that have come to light in the past that the government's
00:29:33.120
They're like, well, you're not going to get me again.
00:29:35.300
So whatever the government says, they don't believe.
00:29:37.540
And they will look for, and that's why they're looking, there's so many different narratives
00:29:40.740
They're looking for another narrative that the government doesn't, that, you know, isn't
00:29:44.620
what doesn't line up with what the official narrative is because they don't want to feel
00:29:47.980
like they got, you know, they got tricked by the government.
00:29:52.380
So, so Israel is our greatest ally and they're really in a bad spot right now.
00:29:57.120
So they're really in a bad spot publicly and with both left and right.
00:30:00.740
Now there's a nine, probably 50 to 75% of people are convinced that Israel was involved
00:30:06.680
If you're the FBI and you can, if you, if you're the FBI, you and your turning point USA,
00:30:11.760
turning point USA had three cameras filming at 30 to 60 frames per second.
00:30:15.460
There's Sony FX three FX threes or FX thirties with G master lenses on them.
00:30:19.780
There's seven or three of cameras within seven feet of Charlie.
00:30:22.520
You can see two, at least one in the, in the right edge of that corner right there.
00:30:25.880
There's one right to his left and there's one directly behind him.
00:30:28.020
We also have turning point employees tampering with an active crime scene, which I, I vouch
00:30:32.740
I said, you know, as a videographer, I don't trust this FBI.
00:30:34.940
If I thought that I had video footage of Charlie's assassin on one of my memory cards, and I'm
00:30:39.480
thinking that the FBI is going to get the only video footage of this evidence, I would
00:30:44.000
And then Ian Carroll goes, yeah, but you're the type of dude who would have uploaded it
00:30:47.160
And I go, that's the first thing I would have to do is upload that.
00:30:49.360
I wouldn't have taken those cards and hid that footage.
00:30:51.460
Candace says she's seen the footage, but she's only seen the camera from behind him.
00:30:55.720
And there's two cameras directly in front of him.
00:30:57.560
So all I'm saying is if it is their obligation, because it would totally dismiss every conspiracy
00:31:04.140
Give us two more minutes of the video that you've already released.
00:31:06.100
And if you can't do that, then you're hiding something period.
00:31:10.240
Like what Phil's saying, people don't trust the government anymore.
00:31:15.920
Like, well, they did before, but like a little bit more than now.
00:31:20.820
Like government approval ratings and trust has dropped off precipitously.
00:31:24.860
And obviously Cash is like, look, I'm going to come in.
00:31:29.740
People are interested in knowing what's going on.
00:31:31.240
I do think they should be a bit more transparent with this case, because here's the thing.
00:31:36.520
When you aren't transparent, and since people have been duped by the U.S. government for
00:31:39.900
so long, that's where all these theories come in.
00:31:44.680
And because me and Ryan were talking about this too, because he was saying like, look,
00:31:47.700
if a bad narrative comes out, are the feds going to come in and correct it?
00:31:55.360
You're going to be like, let them run with whatever they want.
00:31:57.920
You're not going to care if I'm the investigator.
00:31:59.460
But the problem is, now you're getting to a point where people don't trust the government.
00:32:03.920
So you need to be transparent to some degree, especially at least to deal with some of these
00:32:07.680
conspiracy theories, because they run wild when you don't present everything.
00:32:12.340
Cash has been literally going and addressing conspiracy theories on his personal Twitter account.
00:32:17.840
The press conferences that they've done are fucking garbage.
00:32:23.860
Put a law enforcement guy there that's running the case.
00:32:26.440
What you're describing is that, but there's two different, I mean, ends that you're talking
00:32:30.780
Like what the FBI is looking for is to have the proper process, ostensibly to have the
00:32:37.660
proper process to find the person guilty and then put them in jail.
00:32:41.820
What's good for the overall government is not what's good for the FBI in that process.
00:32:46.600
What's good for the overall government and for the American people are different because
00:32:49.060
it's better for the overall government to release all the information as much as you
00:32:54.340
So that way, that might hopefully help to re-instill trust in the government.
00:33:00.880
Maybe this time, maybe the Trump administration is actually doing better.
00:33:05.920
But for the FBI, it's much better for them to keep all of the information that they can
00:33:13.000
As someone who's worked with them several times, they have a very bad habit of classifying
00:33:17.960
everything, not sharing information, not being transparent.
00:33:24.660
I was working a Huala case, this is like 10 years ago, right, on people, on a group of
00:33:29.120
people that might have been suspected of some terrorism, right?
00:33:31.200
And I gave them information on some flight records, right?
00:33:34.560
Because HSI has access to everyone coming in and out of the country to help them out.
00:33:38.920
I called them back because I didn't have access to, like I was out in the field or some
00:33:43.120
I was like, hey, what was that info on the travel stuff that I gave you?
00:33:51.160
But they have a very bad habit of overclassifying things and not being transparent.
00:33:55.360
So, you know, and this is why people don't trust them anymore.
00:33:57.500
And this is why other law enforcement agencies hate working with them, because they just have
00:34:03.180
If they get it, they don't share information, they classify everything.
00:34:06.040
So I think at this point, with the huge amount of distrust that the public has with
00:34:10.060
the FBI, they need to come out and at least dispel these myths.
00:34:13.620
And I don't, like, for example, releasing the full footage of the guy shooting the gun,
00:34:17.580
then getting up and running across the roof, that's not going to hurt your investigation,
00:34:24.660
As the director of the FBI, I am committed to ensuring the investigation into Charlie
00:34:27.640
Kirk's assassination is thorough and exhaustive, pursuing every lead to its conclusion.
00:34:31.820
The full weight of America's law enforcement agencies are actively following the evidence
00:34:34.740
that has emerged, but our efforts extend beyond initial findings.
00:34:37.980
We are examining every facet of this assassination.
00:34:40.540
We are meticulously investigating theories and questions, including the location from where
00:34:44.120
the shot was taken, the possibility of accomplices, the text message confession and related
00:34:48.540
conversations, discord chats, the angle of the shot and the bullet impact, how the weapon
00:34:52.500
was transported, hand gestures observed as potential signals near Charlie at the time
00:34:56.120
of the assassination, and visitors to the alleged shooter's residence in the hours and
00:35:01.600
Some details are known today, while others are still being pursued.
00:35:04.460
To ensure every possibility is considered, our primary focus is to complete this investigation
00:35:09.900
To protect the integrity of the investigation and subsequent prosecution, we cannot release
00:35:14.260
every piece of information we have to the public right now.
00:35:16.720
We will ensure every question is addressed at the appropriate moment.
00:35:20.200
Regarding specific details, such as questions about the plane,
00:35:22.360
that allegedly turned off its transponder and depart, after departing from an airport near
00:35:25.680
the assassination site, we can share updates when answers are confirmed.
00:35:29.140
After interviews with the pilot and the consultation with the FAA, we determined the transponder
00:35:34.800
Incomplete flight data in rural areas caused the apparent gap.
00:35:37.660
The entire FBI mourns the loss of Charlie Kirk.
00:35:42.200
And our investigation into this assassination will continue until every question is answered.
00:35:46.860
What I want to say about Cash, and this especially...
00:35:49.700
I give him credit compared to other FBI directors, and I did give him a credit on this on...
00:35:53.820
Compared to Ray and all the other guys before him, way better.
00:35:57.320
He's trying to be transparent, but what I will say is, there are two principal scenarios
00:36:04.540
And the reason why I lean towards they are telling the truth is either Cash and Dan are in on the
00:36:10.820
conspiracy, whatever it may be, or they're telling us the truth.
00:36:14.720
I do not believe that Cash and Dan Bongino, who are really good friends with Charlie, would
00:36:20.880
have allowed him to be murdered and would be in on anything like that.
00:36:24.760
The only argument to that is the theory that Charlie Kirk escaped through a trap door and
00:36:29.520
the whole thing was fake, and Cash and Dan and Charlie are...
00:36:35.660
Look, I think he's an improvement from before, of course, being more transparent, but I do
00:36:54.240
Isn't it FBI policy that him and Bongino both, because they're emotionally...
00:36:58.240
Neither of them would have had their positions, that they would have got appointed by the Trump
00:37:01.240
administration if it wasn't for the work that Charlie Kirk and his organization did?
00:37:04.300
Isn't it policy that they would recuse themselves from this investigation?
00:37:08.160
And then take it a step further, and you go, okay, hold on, hold on.
00:37:12.120
You can break that down, but what I want to make this last point is that, okay, so if
00:37:15.200
they can't release this video that shows Tyler in the prone position taking this shot,
00:37:18.900
and this does become something bigger, you now have George then, which is the patsy, then
00:37:23.520
that would make Tyler and them on the roof, that guy, not be the shooter, and then you
00:37:27.140
start to look at all the moving parts, and you go, well, who would be capable of carrying
00:37:30.800
And then you have just now released that there was no autopsy done, that the coroner, that
00:37:34.760
the doctor just signed off the death certificate, and there was no autopsy actually done, and
00:37:38.040
they did find the bullet, or they didn't find the bullet, and according to the Turning Point
00:37:40.780
spokesperson, he got information from a doctor, which would violate every HIPAA law, and released
00:37:48.720
Okay, well, maybe that's not true then, but still, you got this...
00:37:54.440
Like, the first thing that I heard, there is so much speculative movie-based stuff, like
00:38:01.520
The first thing I heard from everybody was, that was a professional shot.
00:38:09.540
We had a guest on, and they were like, that was a professional shot, and I was like, who
00:38:17.400
I go to the range, I watch a 12-year-old with a bolt action make every shot from 100 yards,
00:38:21.400
a 12-year-old, because his dad was like, I'm going to zero, he's got him a new rifle.
00:38:24.900
We're out in West Virginia, this is common stuff.
00:38:29.260
But iron sights with my .480 with slugs, I don't miss at 50 yards.
00:38:33.120
Yeah, shooting a rifle, people don't know this, is actually significantly easier than
00:38:38.000
I shouldn't say that, because then people know, but I'm bad.
00:38:43.080
But, you know, I do think, you know, releasing that footage wouldn't hurt.
00:38:49.360
But yeah, there's been, yeah, the autopsy thing you were mentioning, and then, like,
00:38:51.680
I think the New York Post reported a couple days ago that the surgeon said, oh, he blocked,
00:38:55.860
you know, he has really, his bones blocked the bullet.
00:38:58.660
But look, so a statement was made, Andrew Colvitt came out, and he wrote this big long
00:39:02.980
thing saying, I talked to the doctor, the family has agreed that I can release this
00:39:06.720
information, so this would in no way violate HIPAA.
00:39:10.040
If a doctor was talking to Erica, and she said, I want Colvitt to hear this, and I want
00:39:14.200
him to tell the world, that's not a violation of HIPAA.
00:39:16.260
I thought it had to be a written document, signed, according to their law.
00:39:24.120
I mean, he's literally friends with the family, helps work on Turning Point, and Erica certainly
00:39:30.820
Then this news comes out today saying there was an autopsy on the dispatch, and we haven't
00:39:36.500
I think it's fair to question if we're getting conflicting reports, especially.
00:39:40.460
He said, no, a doctor in Utah generally cannot disclose deceased information.
00:39:44.780
So the other thing I want to mention, too, in this regard with, like, you mentioned cash
00:39:52.740
People need to understand that we don't live in a locked, rigid world of laws.
00:39:59.320
The only laws that actually bind us are the physical laws, and laws are ignored all the
00:40:15.380
So if people are like, but he wouldn't be allowed to share that, because if HIPAA, I'm
00:40:18.220
like, unless they just said they did not care and did it anyway, because who's going to
00:40:23.400
Let me explain this real quick, because this is important.
00:40:25.500
So as a director of the FBI, right, you're so high up, like, he's not running the case.
00:40:31.060
There's going to be an FBI special agent, a GS-13, that's probably going to be running
00:40:35.240
this investigation with a squad where there's an SSA or supervisory special agent over him,
00:40:41.820
So on the ground, when it comes to interviewing subjects, collecting evidence, et cetera, cash
00:40:48.680
There's a group that's doing that in Utah, probably out of that field office.
00:40:51.700
Now, obviously, they're reporting what they're finding up the chain to him, but as far as
00:40:56.560
like making decisions on the investigation, that's on the case agent.
00:41:03.260
So about the bullet, the exit wound stuff, there are a bunch of these videos from gun
00:41:08.280
guys who have, like, they've done ballistics tests, they've gone viral, and what I don't
00:41:14.120
understand about this is that, well, I don't want to impugn anyone's honor, so I won't
00:41:19.200
say anyone specifically, but it took me just a couple of seconds to make a few phone calls
00:41:23.240
from ballistic experts, gun guys, and then backing it up with general research to find
00:41:33.280
The argument that people are making that it would have blown his neck out and there would
00:41:37.160
have been a massive exit wound is, the general assessment from everything, everyone I've
00:41:42.060
talked to and read is probably, but not always.
00:41:44.440
And so, to the point you made about Colvitt saying it was like a magic bullet, or not,
00:41:48.720
he didn't say it was a magic bullet, he said Charlie was so young and strong that his body
00:41:51.580
stopped the bullet and he saved the other people's lives.
00:41:53.240
Yeah, his bones stopped it or something like that.
00:41:56.240
Or I should say that is possible is a better way to describe it.
00:41:58.940
So I made some calls, I asked some people, I did some online research, and we even have
00:42:05.980
Everyday Tinkerer says, the explosion honestly looks to me like cavitation.
00:42:10.020
If it was a .30-06, 125 grain, SST, NOS, BT, WinXP would be light enough not to exit
00:42:18.680
When you watch the video, when I watched that video, this is my response.
00:42:23.440
The small, lightweight, so the grains of the bullet, right?
00:42:26.720
You can get a .30 caliber bullet, you can get a bunch of different weights.
00:42:32.520
Because I'm thinking in my head, there's 9mm that sucks and there's 9mm that's really good.
00:42:37.300
Yeah, so like a 9mm sometimes, it's like you can get them that are 115 or 145 grains.
00:42:45.680
When I was, I was at a restaurant with my family, or with friends and my wife, my family,
00:42:53.220
The first video that I saw, I thought, the quality is low, it's far away.
00:42:57.980
I was like, maybe a handgun up close, Charlie can survive.
00:43:01.940
And the initial rumors that were going around was that a man was screaming at him.
00:43:06.200
A man was screaming at him about trans people and then shot him.
00:43:09.220
And so when I saw the video, I was like, maybe it was a small caliber handgun, I think Charlie
00:43:14.560
Luke Rutkowski hit me up and he was like, long story short, there's no way, you've got to
00:43:21.200
As soon as I saw the first frame of the video, I knew that Charlie was gone.
00:43:24.360
More importantly than for most people, I know this is pretty gruesome to talk about, but
00:43:39.280
And so when people are saying, where's the exit wound?
00:43:41.260
I'm like, a bullet entering from a high angle at a downward angle struck Charlie's spine,
00:43:46.920
stopping the bullet from exiting and knocking and killing him instantly.
00:43:52.940
When they brought him to the vehicle, he was in the car and they were trying to stop the
00:43:57.000
He knew that Charlie was already gone, that his lights went out in an instant.
00:44:01.340
You were able to get a pulse back on him, right?
00:44:02.600
When he got to the hospital for a short period of time.
00:44:06.880
So I also had a high level source, a direct source saying that they stabilized Charlie.
00:44:12.180
And people got mad at me for tweeting that, but I'm like, you know what, man?
00:44:20.960
And I know, I was like, okay, we got a glimmer of hope here.
00:44:33.400
And the reason, and then I will add to this too.
00:44:36.820
I think everybody who knew Charlie knew he was dead the moment he died, but no one said
00:44:42.420
And it wasn't until 15 or 20 minutes later that the first-
00:44:47.440
Well, it was, I believe it was just the news that made the official statement.
00:44:55.440
What I'm saying is, I had received phone calls from people screaming and crying, and this
00:45:11.160
Libby was saying, she told her newsroom, we will be the last people to report more
00:45:18.760
When I was told that he was stable, we wanted to believe that he was stable, and this wasn't
00:45:22.840
So back to the point about the .30-06, all these people are coming out being like, so
00:45:32.100
It hit his spine, deflected inward, did not exit the body, and it killed him instantly.
00:45:36.760
Bullets do real weird stuff when they go, like once they go inside your body, they hit,
00:45:43.040
They'll get deflected into all kinds of weird ways.
00:45:50.260
Like the bullet itself, they do weird, weird shit.
00:45:55.940
Like this is why law enforcement went from a 9 to a 40, then they went back to the 9,
00:46:04.120
Because this was like an antique, they said it was like an old gun.
00:46:16.040
So we officially don't have a picture of the gun, do we?
00:46:24.620
We don't even have the actual, a photo of the real gun.
00:46:29.400
Well, you know, Cash Patel was financially involved, right?
00:46:34.500
I mean, he was literally helped promote Cash's fight with Cash.
00:46:37.880
And when I was trying to promote my documentary, it wasn't directly through Charlie.
00:46:41.180
I would have to go through another ad, like a company that was kind of working with Charlie
00:46:45.020
But it was like 25 grand to get on there for a show.
00:46:46.820
So like that's, that's a big financial investment.
00:46:48.820
He could bring you on a show, whether it was for free or whether it was to say thank you
00:46:52.520
There is a direct tie between the Cash is Nonprofit and Charlie Kirk helping promote it
00:46:58.380
Plus you have the emotional fact that he was involved by just getting confirmed.
00:47:01.880
I mean, he, you know, it was Charlie who put together the only cash.
00:47:04.600
Remember the only cash thing that was going around when trying to get cash confirmed.
00:47:07.540
So you have two direct conflict of interest where you would think that he would say of
00:47:11.160
this, according to Kyle Serafin would say that like, Hey, listen, I'm, I'm financially
00:47:15.720
Me and Dan Bongino are both going to personally recuse ourselves from this investigation.
00:47:20.220
We fully trust our secretary, the new agent in charge, the ASEC in charge, and we're going
00:47:28.840
That's their policy, not my opinion, their policy.
00:47:31.840
I like, this is the thing about when your good friend is murdered, you're going to be
00:47:40.280
Aren't they going to have problem when Cash Patel is violating their own policy?
00:47:44.780
I, I, there, there are things that I would do that are indescribable regardless of what
00:47:51.160
And like, we have to understand once again, we can make a procedural argument, but Cash is
00:47:57.020
And I'd be like, I'm sure Cash would have beaten that man to death with his bare hands if he
00:48:00.740
So to say that Cash and Dan would not fly out for the murder of their friend.
00:48:05.040
For two hours, Cash, two hours after this story broke, after Charlie was shot, Cash was dining
00:48:11.660
And making a phone call to charter a plane team.
00:48:13.500
And then for 12 hours, for 12 hours, Cash did not even receive a photo of the suspect
00:48:21.120
Your buddy, your buddy, your best friend, Cash, Charlie Kirk, it takes a bullet to the neck.
00:48:25.840
And then 12 hours later, you still haven't seen a photo of the suspect.
00:48:28.180
I was eating Thai food when Charlie Kirk was murdered.
00:48:31.420
And I stayed there to finish my meal after watching a video of him die.
00:48:35.400
We don't know the inner workings of what Cash had to do when he was, where was he?
00:48:48.340
If I was the head of the FBI, based on how my life works and how we deal with things,
00:48:53.880
chartering a plane is not something you can do instantly.
00:48:56.520
And chartering a private jet isn't something you can do instantly.
00:49:00.420
Ground crew has FAA restrictions on when they can fly.
00:49:02.800
This is why when Kanye West came on this show and had a private jet waiting for him,
00:49:07.280
we called shenanigans because you can't get ground crew.
00:49:12.140
I forgot what it was, but he storms out of the show, goes right to the local regional
00:49:17.960
airport, and there's a jet waiting for him with a crew active.
00:49:20.920
And I said, we called our charter company, and they said, that's not possible, that he
00:49:26.320
called and got a private jet on the spot like that because there's FAA restrictions on how
00:49:30.440
long someone has to be awake for and how long they've been awake they can't fly or something
00:49:35.360
So I'm just saying there's a million and one, there's an infinite possibility of reasons
00:49:40.260
why Cash did not immediately run onto a plane and fly out there, possibly chartering issues.
00:49:46.740
Maybe the plane wasn't even in New York at the time, whatever it might be.
00:49:50.360
I don't think any of that is indicative of a potential wrongdoing.
00:49:54.580
Real quick, we can certainly say Cash should have followed policy.
00:49:59.580
I'm also going to be like, the things I think Cash and Dan would have done would have probably
00:50:05.320
put them in prison if they were there on the spot.
00:50:07.340
It's like, I'm watching the show Peacemaker, and I know this is just fiction, but it's
00:50:12.300
Rick Flagg just mercilessly beats Peacemaker for killing his son, the things a person would
00:50:17.900
So getting on a plane, flying there in violation of policy is like the lightest things that
00:50:25.480
What I'll say, just because I, as a director, you're really high up and you're the face of
00:50:31.720
He's not there making on ground decisions when it comes to the actual investigation.
00:50:40.240
They could have had maybe the other, because aren't there two deputy directors?
00:50:47.960
He could have been the one giving the announcements and everything else like that.
00:50:50.340
But I do think it's important for people to understand that like it goes special agent,
00:50:54.060
then it goes SSA, then it goes ASAC, assistant special agent in charge.
00:50:59.840
Then you go into like directors, then you go all the way up and continue to work your way
00:51:03.620
So he's very high up where he's basically just reporting, but he's not making on-scene
00:51:11.340
So, you know, that's what they would probably argue with because you said, hey, his defense
00:51:14.520
might say, hey, well, aren't you a buddy of this guy?
00:51:20.520
I also think, I'm going to read this Rumble rant from Aussie 97.
00:51:25.940
He says, I think everyone is blowing this up into something bigger than what it was.
00:51:29.200
Everything is happening, just as Yuri Bezmanov said in his 1984 interview about Marxist radicalization.
00:51:37.580
Let me just first start by saying the conspiracy theories I don't appreciate are like Israel
00:51:43.120
I'm like, Charlie Kirk was actually so pro-Israel.
00:51:45.980
He said he had shockingly offensive jokes about Gaza.
00:51:49.480
You heard that joke he said about no tall buildings anymore?
00:51:53.500
I'm like, I don't think that's a guy that Israel would be upset with.
00:51:59.360
And I'm not saying that to be disrespectful to people who want to pursue that.
00:52:04.480
But I do think there is a possibility of conspiracy beyond the official story we're getting.
00:52:11.720
And as to the point about Yuri Bezmanov, I think it's important to consider that the
00:52:15.000
motive for the assassination of Charlie Kirk, excuse me, may not be that this guy is just
00:52:20.600
some fringe lefty wacko who hated Charlie Kirk.
00:52:22.880
It may actually be that these leftists were like, how do we foment conflict and crisis
00:52:28.840
And the real plan between this trans-armed group is more sophisticated than we want to
00:52:34.440
I mean, like I said, for me, I want the autopsy and I want the full footage of us seeing
00:52:40.400
this guy take the shot from a prone position, like they're saying, and running across.
00:52:43.720
I want to see that so that we can kind of build, you know, the timeline better.
00:52:48.580
And the fact that like, we don't have this stuff, it's creating more questions than answers.
00:52:52.720
Which is what's leading to all these different theories.
00:52:54.880
If you can't, if you can't release that footage and there is something bigger here, then
00:52:58.940
obviously the first suspect would be Israel because they literally have an entire Wikipedia
00:53:02.900
page dedicated to previous assassinations that they carried out.
00:53:06.060
They're one of the only militaries that has a special branch that's literally dedicated
00:53:10.820
So I think that's why everybody's first instinct was going to Israel.
00:53:15.780
The first instinct was Israel because people are obsessed with Israel.
00:53:19.280
Well, the last two weeks of Charlie's career, I mean, he was literally going hard.
00:53:22.140
I mean, he was literally separating himself and then he turned down $150 million from Netanyahu.
00:53:26.600
And we were talking about that in the car right over here.
00:53:28.000
That's like going to sitting down with a mafia boss and he's like, yeah, I'm going to bring
00:53:31.600
We're going to give you a million dollars and we're going to make you part of the family.
00:53:34.900
And you're going, no, you know what I'm going to do?
00:53:36.760
I'm going to go actually right down the street.
00:53:45.320
Charlie Kirk has been holding meetings to convince Gen Z influencers to support Israel.
00:53:50.680
Well, why did he turn down $150 million from Netanyahu then?
00:53:54.960
I think it was waking up to the fact of what was going on in Gaza.
00:53:57.980
I think it's silly to argue simultaneously that he had a secret meeting with Bill Ackman in the
00:54:05.200
So the argument right now on Israel is Israel is losing support at a tremendous rate among
00:54:14.660
Like you saw the video where he sat down with these Gen Z guys and he's like, don't be mad at
00:54:19.180
And then Netanyahu was like, how can we get rid of this guy who's our greatest advocate for Gen Z?
00:54:24.520
What honestly makes more sense, we got one super chat.
00:54:33.040
He says, Turkey took out Charlie because he spoke against Islam.
00:54:36.820
If we're talking, I don't think either of those are true, but I get the point being made.
00:54:41.460
People are like, Israel killed their greatest advocate among Gen Z.
00:54:47.160
Well, I think that he was, I think that you, you put all this money into this man, you have
00:54:50.500
And then you're like looking at the last two weeks, maybe three weeks of his life.
00:54:53.460
And you're going, oh, if this man is turning, if he is going to stand up and speak out against
00:54:57.840
what happened in Gaza, I mean, he was on the Patrick Depp-Bavitt show saying like, listen,
00:55:01.320
when I was in Israel and it took me 45 minutes to get into a chopper and fly across the country.
00:55:06.140
So you're, you're mean to tell me that for six hours that Israel didn't respond to the
00:55:13.900
So he was really starting to dive in the Epstein list too.
00:55:16.020
He's one of the biggest advocates for the entire Epstein list.
00:55:26.600
If the argument is that Israel is like, uh-oh, this prominent-
00:55:29.040
Because Nick Fuentes didn't have, he didn't have the youth at every single university.
00:55:32.240
Charlie Kirk was their biggest ally and he was the one, literally the one person capable
00:55:35.460
of turning, if he turned against Israel, the entire youth, the last 24% would pretty much
00:55:40.300
So you have somebody in a position of power that was literally, oh, I think gearing up to
00:55:45.940
I think Charlie Kirk could have been the next president.
00:55:47.500
But look, even that's long term because young people historically don't vote.
00:55:51.060
So even if they don't support Israel, right, you've still got the majority of voters in
00:55:55.400
the U.S. are going to be the boomers, people 55 and older.
00:55:59.780
It'll still take time for that voting bloc to actually have enough influence to change
00:56:07.140
I just, I think the people who are trying to justify Israel as the culprit are people who,
00:56:13.440
I mean, look, Ian Carroll was like, I can't believe we figured out it was Israel right
00:56:20.420
He said, it's within 24 hours, everyone figured out who the likely suspect was.
00:56:23.820
He said he was their greatest advocate and they killed him.
00:56:28.140
I mean, I've seen Ian's breakdowns on it and he's been very specific about just sticking
00:56:33.160
I think Ian's been done some of the best reporting on this, honestly.
00:56:35.460
If he says that he, he says that he figured it out and it's, and his answer is it was Israel.
00:56:41.340
Like Ian's, I know him personally, he's very sarcastic.
00:56:43.380
Literally, the following morning, Ian Carroll said, yesterday was a turning point for Israel-U.S.
00:56:49.380
Less than 24 hours and the internet already figured out who the most likely culprit was.
00:56:54.840
He basically dedicated his life to them and they murdered him in front of his family.
00:57:06.840
Call it a genocide, I say, okay, I don't care about Israel.
00:57:10.000
I don't want the U.S. involved in these foreign wars, but literally, before we know anything,
00:57:19.000
You knew that Ian was going to say Israel did it before anything else.
00:57:22.520
Like, as soon as he got shot, if you said, what do you think Ian Carroll's going to say?
00:57:26.440
I would have said, Ian Carroll's going to say Israel did it.
00:57:29.200
And then you start getting all of this narrative stuff where it's like,
00:57:33.060
did you know that Charlie Kirk was, he was questioning Israel?
00:57:36.240
I saw a video where Charlie asked Ben Shapiro about, Charlie says to Ben,
00:57:41.520
what would you say to someone who describes what's going on in Gaza as a genocide?
00:57:45.160
And then it slowly zooms in on Ben's face and does an edit, so Ben goes like,
00:57:49.300
and it's like trying to imply that Charlie had turned on Israel so they killed him.
00:57:55.740
Now, let me just start by saying, is it in the realm of possibility that Mossad was like,
00:58:04.280
He then said, he said they murdered him in front of his family.
00:58:11.120
And so I'm like, there's an infinite number of possible suspects and who would be upset with Charlie Kirk.
00:58:20.220
Charlie Kirk was the last bastion for defending Israel among the younger generation,
00:58:24.740
so Qatar headed out for Israel, and then they took out Charlie.
00:58:29.900
I can connect the dots in a million and one ways.
00:58:32.520
This doesn't serve our understanding of what happened to just jump beyond why was the gun there,
00:58:38.960
was it actually the gun that was used, what's with that weird photo, why was the message looking all weird.
00:58:45.500
And we start from there and we move forward and try and figure out what's going on.
00:58:48.520
The people that are coming out and screaming Israel are making it harder for us to actually break this down
00:58:54.620
This is what I can't stand about the hardcore conspiracy theory stuff.
00:58:59.520
The feds historically would put out fake theories to distract people and throw them off the trail.
00:59:06.480
A really great example, I think, is Pizzagate, where you get this email that says,
00:59:13.660
is it more fun playing dominoes on pizza or on pasta?
00:59:19.860
And then for no reason, on 4chan, someone posted this thing claiming that it meant boys and girls.
00:59:28.000
CP does mean child porn, but pizza and pasta, that connection doesn't exist anywhere.
00:59:34.480
I argued, guys, the feds are throwing you off the trail of what's actually going on with these emails that got leaked,
00:59:40.840
which are likely indicative, in my opinion, of doing drugs at high-profile parties,
00:59:46.940
There's even code words for crack and meth or something like this.
00:59:50.400
A guy shows up to a pizza place, shoots into the concrete floor, gets arrested,
00:59:53.800
and they say, you're all a bunch of crackpot weirdos for believing this.
00:59:56.640
Despite the fact, we eventually learned the Epstein stuff is true.
00:59:59.980
Their goal is to throw you off the trail with nonsense.
01:00:02.540
What we want to do is we want to look at everything that's been laid out.
01:00:06.140
I think you made a really great point, Ryan, about how the FBI never confirmed .30-06.
01:00:10.480
And then we can question why it is we thought that.
01:00:18.100
Someone pointed out—this is important—someone pointed out in the chat that when that ATF document was leaked,
01:00:22.580
the ballistics had not returned yet on whether or not it really was a .30-06 rifle.
01:00:27.260
It was just the expert opinion of the ATF guys who saw it, in which case—
01:00:31.020
Didn't they release photos of the bullets, though?
01:00:35.360
Yeah, the ICE attack, I know they did, but I thought they released photos of the actual scribe on the bullets.
01:00:41.960
And there's a lot that I've probably gotten wrong already.
01:00:44.000
But again, someone pointed out that ATF leak came out where they said they found a .30-06,
01:00:51.940
And when cases like this happen, right, because I've been at the scene of stuff like this where a case is breaking, it's huge, it's hitting the news,
01:00:59.580
new information's coming in, facts are changing constantly as you're doing interviews, you're collecting evidence, things change constantly.
01:01:07.880
So yeah, it could have been like, hey, it looked like it was a Microsoft Teams chat or something like that,
01:01:12.020
where they're just in a group chat answering questions, talking to each other, whatever.
01:01:15.880
So, you know, they say the fog of war, well, the fog of investigation is very real, too, especially in the beginning.
01:01:20.680
Here's an interesting Patriot super chat saying, I own a World War II Mauser .30-06.
01:01:25.380
The rounds made for those rifles are loaded to lower pressure due to the weaker receiver material technology.
01:01:31.560
This was something I was warned about because I bought an M1A.
01:01:38.860
But my understanding is that .308 is basically the same size but a higher pressure.
01:01:45.880
And so they told me only use .762 in the M1A because the higher pressure could damage the gun or break it because M1A is an older technology or something to that effect.
01:02:01.760
We are not being told the truth is a fair assessment, I think a reasonable assessment.
01:02:07.380
Or they won't correct you when you make a mistake.
01:02:10.200
That's also very important for people to understand.
01:02:12.220
Like, again, me putting on my agent hat, if crazy things come out and I'm the case agent, I'm like, good.
01:02:23.520
So let's advance a little bit and then we can take a look at the subsequent tear attacks we've just seen.
01:02:29.040
There was that attack on ice where the guy had, what does it look like, 7.62 in a stripper clip?
01:02:38.440
That's just, but 7.62 is just the caliber of bullet.
01:02:41.800
I think that, just to kind of wrap up the whole, you know, Charlie thing, which rests in peace to Charlie.
01:02:45.480
Well, I don't want to stop talking about all this stuff.
01:02:47.440
I just want to, I'll just, okay, before we switch, all I was going to say is like, I think people need to keep an open mind, look at all the evidence, don't jump to conclusions and just go off of what's, you know, what's provable.
01:02:57.840
I want to keep the conversation on Charlie, but the bigger picture now moves into, with this story, you see anti-ice penned, inked onto these bullets.
01:03:08.480
It looks like there may be potentially some writing right here that you can't see.
01:03:12.600
I'm not sure, but they haven't released any of that.
01:03:13.840
So I'm going to go, it looks like there might be writing here and here.
01:03:19.040
For those that don't know, it's a thin piece of metal you can slide the bullets into.
01:03:21.620
The left's assessment on the Charlie Kirk assassination anti-ice is that the feds are staging these things.
01:03:34.800
What the accusation, the left can, so while the right is arguing palm guns, guy in the bushes, dude, you know, trapdoor or whatever, Israel.
01:03:44.680
Well, I've heard some pretty wild conspiracy theories.
01:03:51.080
When they started repaving over the campus, when they started replacing everything out there was all of a sudden people saw the trapdoor.
01:03:55.760
But if you look at the photos of where Charlie was sitting, the trapdoor was like way off to the left.
01:04:06.300
Matt Baker shared this photo or this video up originally.
01:04:09.900
These are utility maintenance access doors commonly used in sidewalks and buildings to provide workers access to electrical and plumbing and infrastructure.
01:04:17.380
It's actually common for the irrigation system is why that one was there, I believe.
01:04:20.540
And it was not even in the same spot where he was.
01:04:22.520
No, it's like, so Charlie was like way, way off to the right.
01:04:25.140
It just didn't make sense that there were, I don't know.
01:04:29.240
I've tried my best to just disprove as many of these conspiracy theories as I could possibly disprove.
01:04:34.000
And I've just been going through them all one by one.
01:04:35.740
Let's talk about the leftist conspiracy theories because here's Aaron Rupar, a man so famous for his misinformation, his to Rupar means to pull things out of context, to trick people into believing the wrong thing.
01:04:58.640
To Rupar is to lie with impunity, a brazen statement with a focus on misleading, usually with the intention of a predetermined outcome, to purposely mislead, to intentionally and grossly mischaracterize a statement and or video.
01:05:09.740
The left's conspiracy theory on this one is that Trump and the feds have been faking these.
01:05:14.980
First of all, they thought, they think or they claim the assassination on Trump was staged.
01:05:20.040
Oh, you see the Matthew Crook's video that came out yesterday?
01:05:23.540
A video came out or pictures of him dry firing a handgun.
01:05:27.960
So then you have Gavin Newsom mocking Trump's assassination.
01:05:32.040
You've got Gavin Newsom posting the photo of him laughing, holding up ketchup.
01:05:39.120
And another thing too, Ryan Ruth got convicted and he got found guilty in a trial.
01:05:48.240
Candace got the leaked, deleted social media of crooks.
01:05:57.700
Maybe I thought it was Candace, but I could be wrong.
01:06:00.200
But Gavin Newsom, I believe, posted this, Midas Touch saying, okay, the internet is insane.
01:06:05.560
And it's the Secret Service laughing while Gavin holds up a bottle of ketchup.
01:06:12.420
I'm pretty sure that was posted by his press news office.
01:06:21.420
Liberals think Trump faked the assassination attempt and that the feds, I guess, intentionally
01:06:28.100
They have argued that there are a couple different theories on the Trump assassination.
01:06:31.780
They say that when he fell down, he smacked a blood pack in his hat so he could stand up
01:06:37.540
Despite the fact in the photos when Trump, in the photos from New York Times, you can see
01:06:42.860
They argue that he had a hidden razor blade in his hat.
01:06:49.040
They first, in the mainstream media, argued that it wasn't a bullet.
01:06:53.060
The teleprompter shattered and the glass struck his head.
01:06:56.940
They tried every possible thing they could to claim this was not an assassination.
01:07:02.440
And then look at the Charlie Kirk assassination.
01:07:08.140
There was one viral video woman said, Charlie's not famous enough to be a martyr.
01:07:12.780
All of a sudden, we saw these memorials happening.
01:07:15.700
They pivoted and said, the shooter was a Groyper inspired by Nick Fuentes.
01:07:21.000
And then you got Politics Girl, who I believe is a Midas Touch podcast, I could be wrong,
01:07:24.800
saying that he came from a conservative background and the engravings on the bullets were just
01:07:32.000
They are trying to do everything they can to cover it up.
01:07:34.120
The left is now arguing that Charlie Kirk was killed by Trump.
01:07:40.380
Not even, I kid you not, there is someone that I will leave unnamed who was prominent
01:07:45.700
in Hollywood who posted a video to their Instagram of a woman saying, in 1934, blah, blah, blah,
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Reichstag fire, Hitler did this so that he could gain power.
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The implication being that Trump had Charlie Kirk killed.
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The left has been sharing a meme where it's a guy crying and pointing it under the camera
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and it's titled, Donald Trump shooting Charlie Kirk when he realized he needs to cover up
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So on the right, the conspiracy theories we have are, Charlie was killed by some shady
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On the left, they're saying, Trump killed Charlie Kirk so that he could, there's a comic.
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I want to see if I can find the photo posted by Gavin Newsom himself of this ketchup thing.
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Because I don't want to, I don't want to false, I don't want to claim he did if he didn't.
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And they're not letting go of the Epstein thing either.
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They just put a statue of Trump at the Washington Monument of Trump and Epstein holding hands and like frolicking.
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I thought they were going to leave it up for two weeks, they said.
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But, uh, so I don't want, I don't want to falsely accuse the governor of posting that himself.
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My point is just that liberals are sharing this because in their minds, he faked the whole thing.
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But there is another image that I want to share with you about the left conspiracy over the killing of Charlie Kirk.
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I posted this because it was on the front page of Reddit.
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Actually, let me open this and make it, make it bigger.
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I think I included 32,000 votes, six diamonds, 7,529 comments.
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And it says, uh, Nazi SA officer Horst Vessel was shot in his Berlin apartment by a local communist.
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The incident would have been just another example of sectarian violence in Weimar, Germany,
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had it not been for the intervention of Nazi, uh, Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels.
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Used his media connections and know-how to turn the man into a martyr for the Nazi party.
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He extolled Vessel in Nazi newspapers and even gave a eulogy at his funeral.
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They posted this because they are now trying to, this is where they're advancing their argument,
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that Charlie Kirk was a Nazi, murdered, and Trump is now holding Nazi rallies.
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They claimed the memorial form was a Nazi rally.
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And what they are trying to tell liberals now is that everything Trump does, no matter what it is,
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is in support of the Nazi, of expansion of Nazism, to the point where Rupar called it a Reichstag fire,
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They just label you a fascist or a Nazi, never attack your ideas.
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Into the bigger picture of the conspiracies, what's happening to this country.
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275 plainclothes agents in January 6th crowds from a, uh, a congressional source, uh, said
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And I think we're only now getting these details because, well, the Republicans have won and
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And now he has, he's digging through this, putting it out there.
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So does this mean the stories about the buses filled with agents?
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Because that's what, six, eight, maybe even 10 bus loads of people, 275 agents?
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That was, uh, what congressman was that saying that they had video evidence of the buses?
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It was, um, he's a guy from Tennessee down south somewhere.
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He used to be a sheriff and he was, you know, he was.
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He's one of the most active people about calling out Chris Ray in the hearings about, we're
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How did AOC know the right was going to happen?
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How did AOC know that the right was going to happen?
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Where, where, why are you implying that she knew?
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Because she made a video where she said she heard bang on her or she hid in the bathroom
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How did she know the writers were going to be in the building?
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So the initial reporting was she did a live stream.
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And she thinks she thought she was going to die.
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Turns out it was a Capitol police officer evacuating the building.
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But she thought it was the writers come to kill her.
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At first, the conservatives all came out and said that, but she's not in the Capitol
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I'm being hyperbolic here, but most of them come out and say, fact check, false.
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AOC did tell the truth because tunnels connect the Capitol to the Hart building.
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And all the conservatives were like, yeah, but, you know, that button actually doesn't
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Uh, so I then listened to her story, check, check the timeline.
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The time in which she detailed the, uh, she ordered lunch, it was banging on her door.
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That's not possible because the breach of the Capitol didn't happen for another hour.
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The, at the time she's describing where the cops came and banged on her door was the
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exact moment, the outer perimeter fence got knocked over, meaning the first point at which
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a Trump supporter actually stepped on the grass, which is, if you know, the Capitol
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This means that while AOC was in her bill, in her, in her office, the riders had not actually
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Around the time they discovered the bomb at the RNC and the DNC is around the same time
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The famous video where you see, uh, what was it, Ray Epps whispered to the guy and then
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they pushed the barricades down and start walking up the concrete towards the building.
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Uh, I don't know if I can find this, pull this one up very, very quickly, but, uh, yeah,
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to find that, uh, they nuked it off the internet.
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No, it's not, it's just have to go on X and try and find it.
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And that'll probably take a couple of minutes, but let me finish this point.
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AOC claimed that when she heard the bang on her door, she thought the riders made it
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I mean, she couldn't have known that there was any real threat.
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Why would she be scared at all of literally anything?
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She didn't know the cops were coming to evacuate her and she didn't know there was going to be
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a riot at the Capitol that would have stormed in and broke anything.
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Unless she had foreknowledge that there was going to be a storming of the Capitol.
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So when she heard the bang on her door, she went, oh shit, it's happening.
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Now, she could have fabricated the whole thing and never actually hid in her bathroom.
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Do you want to know what time that was roughly when she hid in the bathroom?
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When did Trump say we're going to peacefully protest?
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It was sometime, I think around, I could be wrong, 103 maybe?
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103 and then you said when she went in what time in the bathroom?
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The timestamps that we have are when the fencers were torn down.
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According to her story, the evacuations based on the pipe bomb is the story she told.
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The bang on her door was the Capitol Police officer evacuating because at 1247, I believe,
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they found a pipe bomb at the RNC and shortly after they found a pipe bomb at the DNC.
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The Capitol Police then went to evacuate members of Congress.
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This is an hour or so before they breached the Capitol building.
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So why, when the cop is banging on her door, did she say,
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the rioters are here to kill me and go and hide in her bathroom?
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So real quick, perhaps she never hid in her bathroom and her and her staffers are just
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She was chilling in her office, laughing her ass off.
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No, a month later, she comes out with a video saying,
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I hid in the bathroom and he goes, where is she?
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And I'm like, okay, maybe she made that whole story up.
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Well, with all this new evidence, how are people like,
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With all this evidence, shouldn't we be blanket pardoning people?
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Well, yeah, it is, but I'm pretty sure Biggs got pardoned.
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Because he got raided over J6, but they found a grenade,
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So his prosecution stems from the J6 investigation,
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or she had foreknowledge of the rights of the Capitol.
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Considering now we're learning that there are 275 plainclothes,
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plus I believe another couple doesn't undercover outright,
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He is a mainstream liberal Democrat media personality,
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If AOC wants to publicly assert she hid in her bathroom from rioters,
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then I'm going to go and say AOC was informed beforehand J6 was going to happen.
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I agree with what Nick Fuentes said when he talked about there was a black
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went to that university and was like mocking them and he was live streaming it.
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these people don't believe in anything that we believe in.
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These people need to be completely removed from our society.
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They're not trying to have an open debate and have open,
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everybody's saying we have to do everything legally.
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Keith Olbermann said your next mother effort to,
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The left took credit for it right after it happened.
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and I think the point that I've made with all of these stories is that I,
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and I give the left the opportunity to clip that out of context.
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The point I'm making is if you go to a liberal and tell them this guy who shot Charlie Kirk,
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The you gov data shows us that two to one liberals believe that the Charlie Kirk assassin was a,
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They live in a completely different set of world of facts.
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So it doesn't matter when we're dealing with this escalation of violence in this,
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in this conflict that's happening in this country.
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Even if you can prove it's true because they're not listening.
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I've been saying for five years that Antifa and BLM need to be terrorist organizations.
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obviously it took the tragic death of Charlie for them to finally say,
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If you're a right wing advocacy group of some kind,
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There's going to be an open federal investigation on you.
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They're going to try to get informants in there,
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These leftist organizations don't deal with the same scrutiny from,
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Why are we following the money to these NGOs that are funding these organizations?
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We were supposed to go after USAID NGOs and none of them have been arrested.
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They've been able to gather and operate for years.
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And I've been saying it forever that Antifa is a terrorist organization.
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I truly do believe the left is way more than we are.
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is it possible that the true force behind the Kirk assassination is some kind of
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vestige of the USAID NGO infrastructure of domestic terror?
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I honestly won't rule it out because these people are like,
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So that they can go ahead and like justify their violence against you.
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I can't like the amount of people I saw celebrating after he got killed.
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if something happened to our prominent left wing podcaster,
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but very few people on the left showed compassion.
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all the politicians came out and said that political violence unacceptable.
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AOC went to the house floor to smear and denounce Charlie,
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when I look at all the conspiracy theories around the Charlie Kirk stuff,
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There was an infrastructure in place that Trump has dismantled through USAID.
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I am not saying literally everything USAID did was bad,
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But I think a lot of this NGO money that also Lee Zeldin found through these environmental
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groups finds its way to direct action nonprofits that engage in violence.
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And this is intentional because the activists will say at these meetings,
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If the government finds out who's organizing and in charge,
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they will character assassinate or imprison you.
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So they intentionally try to hide who's actually running the show.
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Who has the path for what the protest is going to look like?
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Trump has now ordered these things to be dismantled.
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Could it be possible that the actual nefarious group behind it
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And the reason why we're having trouble breaking down
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exactly what happened and we're getting conflicted information
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But it was a premeditated move by a highly organized,
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of what was being dismantled by Trump's actions.
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And that is the actual player here who killed Charlie Kirk.
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For any of these NGOs, any of this money laundering,
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And has anybody actually gone through and back?
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I've got smuggled across the Guatemalan border,
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one of the main NGOs who was playing a major role
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So none of them that I've seen have been defunded.
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So if the money's not coming from USAID anymore,
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what we're being told is that it's actually coming
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You dam a river, the river doesn't just instantly evaporate.
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until it slowly starts receding and going down.
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So they've cut the money off only a few months ago.
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Right, so how long can you operate on $30 million?
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Oh my gosh, those operations were done for a long time.
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there would still technically be a lot of money left over.
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They have assets, they have funding, they have stocks.
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Exactly, and they can liquidate to maintain operations.
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And so with Trump cutting off a lot of the funding
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and these groups may try and find outside funding
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And that is one of the stupidest ways to describe it
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is that there were NGOs that operated out of New York
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that had received funding from Open Society Foundation
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I'm like, oh, okay, I used to do nonprofit work,
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And I'm like, so you're getting paid to be here?
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And then when he goes, hey, instead of working,
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how about I just go organize Occupy Wall Street?
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They don't have to worry for the salaried employee
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whenever you put the T word into an investigation,
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And they can really attack it from the financial angle.