A woman accused of calling a baby a racial slur on a playground has started a campaign to protect her family, and has so far raised over $1 million dollars. What does this mean for the Democratic Party, and how will it respond?
00:00:00.000But in the Democrat mind, they view them as congenitally inferior, and if they don't pander to the worst aspects of this community, then they have in some way done something wrong themselves, whereas actually a sensible reading of this would suggest that the black community ought to be held to the same standards as the white community, and this would have a morally improving effect on the black community.
00:00:30.000This is the Give, Send, Go of Shiloh Hendricks, and as the story goes, this lady was on a playground, was accused of calling a baby a racial slur because she says he was going through her stuff.
00:00:43.680The man then is yelling at her. She tells him F off. She throws some slurs at him. After this incident went viral, you'd expect this woman to have been canceled, lose her job. Instead, the opposite happened.
00:00:57.320Give, Send, Go.com. She launched this page, Help Me Protect My Family, and has so far raised $663,111 of a million-dollar goal.
00:01:12.900This is a big story. Because something is changing in the cultural zeitgeist. Something is changing. People are fed up with the, you know, you've got minorities that will insult and use racial slurs against white people, and we are told that's socially acceptable because it's punching up.
00:01:30.520But that is a leftist precept. That is a leftist idea. With the Democratic Party trying to go this route and losing younger voters and white voters, not to mention they've lost basically every demographic.
00:01:41.720How are they going to stand firmly on the side of racism every day? Now, some may say, but Tim, this story is about a lady being racist. Sort of. It is on the surface. But the fundraising is largely about people being fed up with the racism, and this is the recoil.
00:02:06.180This is the blowback on DEI. If you are going to have a persistent and consistent culture where comedians are allowed to use racial slurs against white people, but white people can't say anything back, they're allowed to just say, ha, ha, yeah, I guess you're right.
00:02:23.300Eventually, you get people who say, I've had enough of this. I don't want to live in the world where anybody is racist. And what happens? The people who don't want racism end up supporting this woman out of spite and anger over the racism directed at them.
00:02:39.880And then, of course, the core of actual white racists join in and say, we were always here where this goes. I'm not entirely sure. But there are two big questions. How is this going to impact the Democratic Party that largely wants to maintain these DEI and racist ideas?
00:02:59.720And why is it really happening? Maybe I'm right. Maybe I'm wrong. But I do think that my good friend Carl Benjamin has a good idea about all this.
00:03:12.140So let me see if I can grab this this feller here. If we're if we're loading, we are booting it up. I see Carl. Now let's see if we can get this set up and get it rolling.
00:03:24.020Carl Benjamin, can you hear me? I can. How are you? I'm doing well. Welcome to we started doing these morning interviews.
00:03:32.020So it's an honor, privilege, privilege to have you here. And you put out a video over the weekend that I thought was actually pretty good.
00:03:39.540You said it was the end of white guilt pertaining to Shiloh Hendricks. So what I've been talking about for the past half hour is the Democratic Party's got no front runner.
00:03:47.980They're ideologically split. You've got the woke element. You've got Stephen A.
00:03:52.540Smith. He's saying we've got to purge the party. You've got Beto O'Rourke saying they're weak. Pritzker saying we've got to fight.
00:03:58.640And I don't know if they're going to be able to moderate because of the racist woke elements that persist in the party.
00:04:06.040But this development here with the Shiloh Hendricks story is interesting.
00:04:09.500So I'm wondering if you can give us your breakdown of why you think this woman's raised six hundred and sixty three thousand dollars.
00:04:15.560And then we can talk about how this affects politics.
00:04:17.540There's a kind of implicit bargain in the Civil Rights Act that has never really been properly acted upon, which is black people will be given access to the full spectrum of spaces in wider society, primarily white society.
00:04:39.760And that was that was that was fulfilled.
00:04:44.160But the other side of that is the implicit assumption that black people won't nurture a longstanding grievance against white people.
00:04:50.900And that hasn't been fulfilled. And we saw this with the Carmelo Anthony case where he he probably murdered someone and the black community decided to raise more than five hundred thousand dollars for him.
00:05:07.380Because a lot of people perceive that it was because he murdered a white person.
00:05:12.120And a lot of the comments that came in on that on the donations were we hate white people and we're glad you killed a white person.
00:05:19.160And this is just not an acceptable thing to do.
00:05:23.240And this is hardly the first time that this was done.
00:05:26.300I mean, I'm personally of the opinion that the the chap who killed George Floyd, whose name for some reason escapes Derek Chauvin.
00:05:34.220That's Derek Chauvin. I'm of the opinion.
00:05:36.560Wait, wait, I got to pause. I got to pause you there.
00:05:40.140Oh, I didn't. I don't think either. That's the that's the point.
00:05:43.980I think that George Floyd was dying of a fentanyl overdose.
00:05:47.060But the charged atmosphere because of the nurtured race grievances meant that Derek Chauvin essentially had to go to jail no matter what happened in that case.
00:05:57.820And that means that what you have is a racial element of your society holding the rest hostage, saying, look, we're going to keep doing this because it's profitable for us.
00:06:07.980And there's no reason that we give this power up.
00:06:10.600And I think that in the case of the Shiloh Hendricks event in that she don't get me wrong.
00:06:18.380I don't think you should be calling children racial slurs.
00:06:20.640But it really wasn't nearly as bad as some of the other things that have been done in the name of race grievance mongering.
00:06:28.080And so I think that a large number of people online and I think is predominantly sort of I guess what you call a white separatist community online decided that they'd had enough and they were just going to give her money in the same way that the black community gives its martyrs money purely on the basis of race.
00:06:46.800And I think really, and I think people like you and I have been warning about this for a long time, if you allow one side to do this kind of thing and it's not addressed, it's in fact in many ways encouraged, the other side will eventually say, right, that's how the game's played then.
00:07:04.200And we're just going to play this game.
00:07:05.780And actually, it turns out there are a lot more of us than there are of you.
00:07:08.320So maybe you won't like it if we play it this way.
00:07:10.720And I think that's what's really driving this issue.
00:07:13.520Yeah, it's it's a lot of people are saying this is a reaction to the Carmelo Anthony story.
00:07:39.640The money they raised for the Carmelo Anthony family was racial solidarity.
00:07:45.560The posts I've seen on Twitter are all racial solidarity.
00:07:48.760They're attacking, you know, Austin, saying that he was a white bully and that white people have done this, that or otherwise.
00:07:57.300And so, you know, what I see with this story, with the Shiloh Hendricks story, all she's accused of doing is insulting a person in a rather crass way.
00:08:05.500And it's funny because if this is the reaction to it, it's still nowhere near the scale that people have seen in the inverse.
00:08:22.280I know the name, but I can't remember the details offhand.
00:08:24.880And this is where the left claimed a black man was jogging and was lynched by by three white men, the Travis and Gregory McMichael, as well as William.
00:08:38.440I think his name was I could be getting his name wrong in in both of these stories.
00:08:43.220People who are completely uninvolved, I should say figuratively uninvolved, went to prison as well.
00:08:47.940So like with Derek Chauvin, you had the the cop holding people back prison in the Ahmaud Arbery case, the guy driving his car and just filming it prison for the rest of his life.
00:09:08.060But how did we or how do you think we in the United States got to this point where you literally have a felony burglary suspect who attacked people be the victim?
00:09:18.280So in the United Kingdom, we don't have anything quite this similar.
00:09:24.880And this is a product of the the American unique narrative surrounding slavery and the historic wrong that was done to the black community that was trying to they tried to pay some sort of restitution for with the Civil Rights Act.
00:09:43.320And the issue is that there were two narratives in the Civil Rights Act, the liberal narrative and the separatist narrative, which is predominantly a Marxist one that frankly failed.
00:09:58.380It was the liberal narrative of integration and the sort of liberal view of equality that predominated.
00:10:04.260But there but there are many segments of the black community that just simply don't agree with this and actually don't want to collectively forgive white people and nurture the grievance because it has an advantage for them in daily life.
00:10:19.860It is the perennially sort of liberal perspective that the blacks aren't equals to the whites, because all of this is predicated on the idea that the black community is in some way in a kind of socially inferior rank to the white community.
00:10:37.600And it doesn't matter what any individual black person achieves by their status of being black in the liberal mind.
00:10:45.940And I really don't think MAGA holds this opinion at all, actually.
00:10:49.240But in the in the Democrat mind, they view them as congenitally inferior.
00:10:54.560And if they don't pander to the worst aspects of this community, then they have in some way done something wrong themselves.
00:11:02.440Whereas actually a sensible reading of this would suggest that the black community ought to be held to the same standards as the white community.
00:11:10.700And this would have a morally improving effect on the black community, because I think and this is one of the difficult things for Americans to really tackle, I think, is I think the black community in America is kind of riddled with poor ethics.
00:11:25.800There just is a real spate, a really, really, really, really difficult thing to talk about, which is that there's just a widespread acceptance of really, really bad behavior.
00:11:40.160And it's not on. You would think it would not be on.
00:11:43.480But the problem is the Democrats have turned these into kind of personal fiefdoms by simply doling out handouts.
00:11:50.320They can just continue to essentially pay these people to forever vote Democrats, which means that the Democrats have control over the area and they have no interest in improving the ethics of that community.
00:12:02.320In fact, it's to their advantage. It's how they maintain their power over these communities by keeping them immiserated as they are.
00:12:09.780I'm sure like the average black person has got no interest in reducing the number of police in their community.
00:12:15.640And in fact, when you see the polling, the average black person, the average black community is like, God, no, why the hell would you think about doing that?
00:12:23.320But the activists, the race grifters, the race hustlers, they know which side their bread is buttered on and they know how to maintain this forever.
00:12:30.800But it's fascinating because if you go to your average Trump supporter and say, if you took, you know, a random white guy and a random black guy and put them on the same job site, like a construction facility, which one would do better?
00:12:43.380The average response is going to be like, I have no idea. What do you mean? Like, how am I supposed to figure that out?
00:12:47.540But predicated in the argument that we see from from wokeness and the left and these race ideologies is that, as you mentioned, congenitally inferior.
00:12:57.980They call the right white supremacist because on the right is typically the idea that merit is what matters.
00:13:05.460And most people think hard work and perseverance is going to bring you success on the left.
00:13:11.880We learn this from the Yale study. They intentionally reduce the the the I guess the verboseness, the degree of their vocabulary to sound.
00:13:24.620Stupider, and that's how they treat black people.
00:13:27.320So it's funny because. They within them, their entire argument is predicated upon they believe they are socially and even as a race superior and people on the right largely are like, just work hard and stop committing crimes.
00:13:43.020And that everybody can succeed. How does the Democrat like I know you're you're a UK guy, but considering you've you've obviously been one of the on the forefront of this space, you follow closely.
00:13:54.200But I mean, back during the launch, like the beginning of Gamergate, which I was reading this interesting thing that this was like the first time millennials had a major political moment that was largely ignored by the large political class.
00:14:06.940And now what what emerged from Gamergate was this politics of wokeness, which is permeated the Democratic Party.
00:14:12.780And as it is, it is a major foothold that, you know, Stephen A. Smith says you've got to purge the extreme left.
00:14:18.500How do you see that evolving politically for a party that's losing every category of race and class?
00:14:24.680I mean, it is if if you were a Democrat strategist, purging the extreme left would be exactly what you would do.
00:14:33.700The problem is woke ideology is a product of Democrat liberal ideology.
00:14:40.620It works within it and it knows itself inside out because actually it comes from the Marxists who lost the civil rights debate.
00:14:50.320It actually comes out of this philosophy. And so these people spent 30 years in academia wondering, why did we lose the argument to the liberals on civil rights?
00:15:01.100And so they spent a lot of time essentially manipulating definitions, expanding the definition of racism and merit and various other important keywords to mean the antonym, to mean the opposite.
00:15:13.500And so we consider racism to be poor treatment, inequality of treatment, right?
00:15:19.640And that if we have an equal treatment of different people, we will get unequal outcomes.
00:15:25.280And we completely agree to this because, of course, if one person works hard and if the other person doesn't work hard, it is preposterous that they should end up in the same position to the average person, to a normal liberal minded person.
00:15:37.380But the Marxists say, well, we consider that to be a form of racism because the unequal outcome is not evenly distributed among the racial groups.
00:15:47.520And honestly, the liberals are very weak to this. The liberals, with their guilt complex, are very weak to this argument.
00:15:54.300And so a normal person, a MAGA type, might say, well, then they need to get to school, they need to get to work, they need to improve things.
00:16:01.760If they want the same standard of living as other groups that they're comparing themselves to, they need to crack on and actually get those because there are no legal barriers preventing anything at this point.
00:16:11.680And in fact, most social barriers, I think, have also been knocked down by and large in the United States.
00:16:17.400And so the thing that's really holding them back is honestly themselves.
00:16:21.020It's the belief because, I mean, you see this in black circles where they'll say things like you're acting white.
00:16:28.520If you get up, get on time, you know, wear a nice suit, do a hard day's work and get paid good money for it.
00:16:34.440That's acting white. And it's like, OK, in a way you can see what they're saying is in that's what most of the white community does.
00:16:41.120But that then suggests that sort of blackness is merely the antonym to whiteness.
00:16:47.060And when they the critical race theory say, well, whiteness is hard work, you know, being well spoken, making sure you turn up on time, making sure that you file your taxes and making sure that you do things that are productive, that are the classic productive behaviors that in a capitalist system lead to wealth and success.
00:17:07.180Then blackness is always left undefined, but in opposition to whiteness.
00:17:12.440And if if it's just the antonym of whiteness, then what that means is blackness is being criminal.
00:17:18.600It is being lazy. It is taking benefits.
00:17:21.160It's all all these things that don't live to a happy, prosperous life.
00:17:24.080And the critical race theorists encourage the black community to try and embrace that.
00:17:29.560Now, I don't think that's fair or good to do to anyone.
00:17:32.900I wouldn't want some super intelligent people and a massively funded activist complex telling me that if I act like this other group and get the success this other group gets, then I'm somehow a race traitor.
00:17:45.660I think that's really unhealthy and really damaging and a way, in fact, that they keep the black community in an inferior position by making it so that people in there just don't really feel they can get ahead.
00:17:57.900And so why would they even try? And I think that secures their power going forward.
00:18:02.500You know, you know, it's funny is the way you're describing it.
00:18:04.920I can imagine this for literally any grievance based group.
00:18:07.480Right. So, you know, during Occupy, you had the class based.
00:18:11.200It's the one percent they're holding us back if if they weren't in power.
00:18:14.680It's this politics of envy, I suppose, maybe demagoguery, whatever I say, like this person is your enemy and it can be weaponized in against anybody.
00:18:24.340I suppose if you grow up in the United States in the black community, it's really easy to hear the history of the transatlantic slave trade and, you know, the history of Jim Crow and all this stuff, slavery, obviously.
00:18:37.340And then say these people are your enemy.
00:18:41.280But if you live in a world where you constantly blame everyone else for your for the way you live, you're not going to succeed and break from it.
00:18:49.560And I think the best example of this, not perfectly, but a really great example of define this is how Native Americans have sort of weaponized the vices of Westerners against them with the launching of all of these casinos, making themselves wealthy.
00:19:06.180Not every tribe, not everywhere, but with the with the beginning of it was in it was a seminal tribe in Florida creating bingo halls resulted in this wave of casinos all across the United States where instead of being like the white man is evil and is going to is bad.
00:19:23.060They said they said let's just sell them a product they want and they've made themselves many different tribes very wealthy off of this and actually some of the coolest places to go ever.
00:19:34.340So they've you know, they've sort of created something great out of this this negative this negative circumstance for the Democratic Party.
00:19:47.400I don't see, you know, they're saying she's the front runner right now.
00:19:52.380I don't see how her or anyone else is going to be able to break out of this narrative moving into 2026, 2028 because they're addicted to it.
00:20:01.840So who do you who do you think is going to be in front of this?
00:20:04.520And do you think AOC's got it or what do you see here?
00:20:08.880So you've got a bit of a problem because I saw just now, actually, Gavin Newsom had done an interview with the BBC where he was on the right of the Democrat Party.
00:20:17.860Arguing that actually we we need to get rid of the woke stuff and get back to something akin to sort of Bill Clinton Democratism, which might actually be something the electorate wants.
00:20:28.220And to be honest with you, that's all Trump selling as well.
00:20:30.980So honestly, it's it's really obviously a popular position in the United States.
00:20:38.400I don't think AOC can win because I think what she is essentially doing, selling it is very popular with a very small slice of the electorate.
00:20:50.820Right. The Bernie Sanders wing of the Democrat Party.
00:20:54.040And that's probably, you know, 20 percent of the entire American population or something like this, which is a large number of people.
00:21:01.640But it's not nearly enough to get any kind of majority.
00:21:03.960And the problem is, it's very much like Jeremy Corbyn over here.
00:21:06.700There are there are a large number of people who are into it, but an even larger people who find it utterly repugnant and view it as a kind of civilizational chloroform and really they view it as communism.
00:21:19.020Right. They view it as communism and they don't want it.
00:21:21.240And one of the problems that Jeremy Corbyn had here, which will be the same with AOC, is that when the activists are going door to door, they'll find people to say, look, I'm not even necessarily against your party, but this person, I don't trust them.
00:21:34.660They come across a communist. I'm not having it.
00:21:37.740So they'll have, you know, millions of people are on their side, but they'll have tens of millions who are against them.
00:21:43.120And on that ground, I don't think she'll be able to win.
00:21:46.020So if they were smart, we'd go for Gavin Newsom.
00:21:48.100If I got to be honest, I think Newsom's terrible.
00:21:53.600But it would be a very big victory culturally if Newsom does win a primary and basically the party rejects all of the cultural Marxist stuff or woke whatever.
00:22:04.320Going back to a smarmy lizard, lizard person in human skin who's trying to sell you snake oil is much better than the woke, you know, cult stuff.
00:22:14.380Kind of just jumping to an aside, going back to where we were before.
00:22:19.360I'm curious your thoughts on the civil rights movement.
00:22:23.580Do you think the Civil Rights Act created these circumstances?
00:22:27.500One thing that I've heard from a lot of people is that the inevitable result of the Civil Rights Act basically creating a law saying you can't treat people certain ways based on how they appear or look or where they're from, the end result is going to be wokeness.
00:22:59.120So what the Civil Rights Act was, was a modification to the American social contract, right?
00:23:05.080And whenever you have some sort of social contract like this, the problem is there are always a set of duties that come along with the rights.
00:23:15.460And none of the duties were imposed upon the black community out of guilt.
00:23:19.500But you're going to have a series of things that you have to do to uphold your side of a contract.
00:23:28.740And if that's missing, and in fact it becomes an Achilles heel for the society because the Democrats and the race grifters and the black community can weaponize this against the wider society,
00:23:41.520well then it does become a sort of perpetual wound that can't heal.
00:23:45.360And if nothing is expected of the community to which things are given, then that creates a certain kind of mindset in at least a portion of them that I think has metastasized and developed into the just...
00:24:00.360I mean, it's genuinely insane that it should be allowed and should be normal that huge amounts of people in the black community are just genuinely hateful towards whites.
00:24:12.300That is insane and shouldn't be allowed to fester.
00:24:15.360And it shouldn't be allowed to fester the other way either.
00:26:22.100He's just like, you're an other, and I can tell.
00:26:24.260And he made some comments that we all thought were funny, even my friend who's Korean.
00:26:28.620Whereas in the North, they're all walking on eggshells, talking down to you.
00:26:33.560And the funniest thing about my encounter with these woke people in, say, New York is they treat me like garbage when they assume I'm white.
00:26:41.360And then when I counter by saying, actually, I'm mixed, they immediately apologize and start acting totally different.
00:26:46.980And I'm just thinking to myself, there's no real interaction with these people.
00:26:50.440They're not telling you what they really think.
00:27:48.640Whereas in North America, it feels tense, man.
00:27:50.060There was a bill in California, it was a referendum, that would remove the civil rights protections for college applications and government contracting.
00:28:00.880The Constitution says you cannot discriminate on the basis of race.
00:28:04.460So my progressive friends, and this is years ago, of course, so I unfortunately have lost contact with a lot of these people as things have gotten more intense.
00:28:13.800But I remember talking to this woman, she's really well-known in Hollywood, advocating for the removal of this protection.
00:28:20.700And I asked her, I was like, honest question, do you believe that white people tend to be white supremacists?
00:28:45.800And I said, then do you think that stripping away the legal protections from minorities will result in white people giving preference to white people?
00:29:20.500I think they do genuinely believe that white people are superior.
00:29:23.160And I do genuinely think that they will pander to minority communities on that basis, actually.
00:29:28.280So she could have checkmated you on that.
00:29:29.760I think the point I was making was, you are correct.
00:29:34.640I think if I was actually having a real debate with someone perhaps more learned on the issues like you, we both immediately understand that point.
00:29:42.120My point was just to highlight her justification for this was rooted in this idea that all white people, except for her, are secretly racist white supremacists.
00:29:52.620So we're going to hold back the minorities.
00:29:54.260So we need to eliminate this constitutional amendment in California so that we can intentionally be racist against whites and then help minorities get into contracting in schools.
00:30:05.780Of course, California voted against this measure.
00:30:11.940One of the things with the civil rights movement that has come up a little bit from the left is when we ended segregation and they said you can't have separate bathrooms for black and white people, they're trying to argue that's the same thing for the sexes.
00:30:25.980Civil rights movement says you can't have discrimination on the base of sex, so then how can you have a men's room and a women's room?
00:30:32.480I'm curious how you would rebut that in about a minute if you can.
00:30:36.660Well, that's a small, no small challenge.
00:30:39.140But in a way, they're kind of correct, because the problem of the civil rights movement and the liberalism broadly is it assumes a universal, a historical human being.
00:30:51.380And actually, we know that human beings are not a historical or universal.
00:30:54.580They're actually particular and very, very different to one another.
00:30:57.960And so actually, logically, it is probably contained within the civil rights movement that there can't be men and women's bathrooms.
00:31:04.700But that is really a failure of its time and honestly, could be updated to be more reasonable.
00:31:11.500You don't have to be committed to this.