1 "Toxic Alpha" VS 9 Miami Models DEBATE!
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Summary
On this episode of The Test Experiment, we are joined by some lovely ladies to play a game of conservative vs. Miami ladies. We will be doing this game live on all of the social platforms so make sure to tune in!
Transcript
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After our edition, we're joining something with a couple of different lovely ladies.
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We're going to do one conservative versus nine Miami ladies.
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Welcome to the Fresh Podcast after our edition, man.
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If it goes well, then we'll, you know, keep doing these in the future.
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But, hey, man, we're about to put Jubilee out of business.
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I know the girls have no headphones on, so I look weird doing this shit.
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You know, I want a little bit more girls, but, you know, girls be flaking like, you know,
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They pre-record the shit, and they fucking, you know, and they, you know, I'm sure they
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I mean, I said fresh if you want to show up, you know, let me know.
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But fresh, no, fresh is not going to break, bro.
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So y'all ninjas can't complain about fresh now.
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They're going to put a bunch of W's in the chat or some shit.
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Also, you guys are probably going to notice that the cameras are probably going to be a little
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He helped out with setting up the cameras and the different angles.
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So you guys are probably going to notice a facelift on the show.
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We just had a guy that actually knows what the fuck he's doing with the cameras.
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So, more than likely, we're probably going to funnel everybody over to Fresh and Fit on
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We got, like, already a bunch of people watching.
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Bro, I've never seen this much W's in a chat before.
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It's literally, well, it's because, do we have all the platforms in there, Bills?
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So, what's the, so, we're going to do the first prompt, right?
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And then what I'll do is, after we do the first prompt, we'll kind of go from there.
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And the way it's going to work, guys, it's going to be very similar.
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So, I'm going to go ahead and give my position.
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And then the girls will go ahead and raise the paddle up.
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We're not going to have them fight over the chair.
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That's kind of, you know, it's kind of messed up.
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So, whoever raises the paddle up fastest comes to the table.
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Then we can have a discussion and kind of go from there.
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So, the first one, guys, and we have it right here on the screen for you guys, is the gender
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Again, the topic is the gender pay gap is not real.
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So, if you disagree, in other words, I don't think that, you know, women earning less than
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So, if anybody wants to come in and have a discussion on it, you're more than welcome.
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And you can ask me to, if you want me to, like, clarify or anything like that, feel free.
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Are you saying that women have the same opportunities as men in pay raises?
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I think women actually have more opportunities than men.
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Because I feel like women tend to, unless, like, I feel like women tend to deal with
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So, if they are getting promoted, it's probably not, like, because they're actually qualified.
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So, I don't think that the actually qualified women who, like, take their time and, like,
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take the educational routes are getting the same pay because they're not as desirable
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by the men in those fields that are appointing the people.
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But, I do think it's more, like, on the equal scale than it used to be back in the day.
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I don't think women are, like, so far behind from men.
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I would say if men are here, women are probably, like, right here.
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Like, we're not, like, it's not as much of the gap as it used to be back in the day.
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So, my thing is, I think, like, basically the reason why there is a gap is because, well,
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I'll start, I'll kind of give you my full position.
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I think there is no gender pay gap, and I think women earn less because they deserve less.
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And I think there's a multitude of different reasons why I have that position, why women
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deserve less when it comes to how much they get paid.
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But to go to what you said when it comes to, like, sexual harassment or them getting the
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job, I think that kind of adds more, you know, power to my argument where women are getting
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positions even though they're not qualified because they're women.
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Now, you're saying why because sexual harassment, but it doesn't change the fact that, like,
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they're still getting the positions even though they're not as qualified.
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And I would argue a lot of the times when women get sexually harassed, that's from them
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making bad decisions on how they dress and how they behave.
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I think sexual harassment, a lot of it has to do with the woman's behaviors because sexual
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I think for you to be objectified, you have to objectify yourself first, which I think
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women chronically objectify themselves first, then get mad when men objectify them in response.
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So first I said women, women earn less because they deserve less.
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Are you making that statement and the assumption that you want us at home and that we work less
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because we have to take more care of the home and men are more outside than women are?
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Well, that's a part of it, but, but like if everything is all equal, the reason why women
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Um, did, did we get, uh, did we have, oh yeah, ladies, by the way, if you don't think
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And then, uh, if we get like a majority, then she'll get kicked off.
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It is a difference between men and women in the age gap.
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Men are more qualified to make more money and be able to surpass women.
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Men, definitely in certain things, construction, um, certain different type of carpentry industry,
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all different types of industries, especially even in the automobile industry, even in tons
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Men, so of course they're supposed to get paid more money and they're supposed to be given
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But at the same time, women do have opportunities where they surpass men as well, where men can't
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reach their pay scale and women can reach the men pay scale, but they're going to have to
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You have to put forth more work and more energy and a lot of more things to be able to reach
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But in my opinion, women do deserve if they work hard enough to be able to be paid on a
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But at the same time, some certain things are more qualified.
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They certain more money for men is more qualified for men specifically.
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So, um, I see your perspective, but what you're making an argument for is like, you're saying
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you want equality of opportunity, which that's fine.
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But the reality is a lot of times it's opportunity, it's, they get equality of outcome, which is
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basically women want the same pay for doing less work.
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They're more likely to take vacation, more likely to take paternity leave.
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Of course, um, you know, women just don't work as hard as men in general.
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Um, and they don't go into certain professions that pay more.
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Um, and women also don't negotiate for higher rates of pay.
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They're not, they're more agreeable, which being more agreeable also lends to you earning
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So in general, there's a multitude of different reasons why women earn less.
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But I would argue the reason why women earn less most of the time is because they actually
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Sometimes women do the same amount of level as other females.
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I mean, as other males, such as the industry, like, for example, I, I had a job last week
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that I was doing 10 times more work than the men.
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We're setting up a basketball tournament for all the different high schools, everything,
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setting up the whole auditorium, setting up the whole main place at the Fort Lauderdale
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Well, but there's a bunch of different factors that go in like experience, education, background,
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And of course the men, because of my appearance, you know, sometimes I don't show up ugly.
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I don't show up looking a hot mess like everybody else.
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So, you know, I don't look like the heavy duty like you're supposed to.
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So they might get a call back, but I don't get a call back.
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Was this like a physical manual labor job or something?
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Like, so you're setting up the basketball court?
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You know, basketball courts have to be set up in order for arenas.
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You know, whether they switch it between performances.
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So you're saying that you're doing more work than the guys and you're saying you get paid
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And some of them, I was getting paid more, believe it or not.
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But at the same time, men are, certain things are more qualified than women.
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And certain things, women are more qualified than men.
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Women take over makeup, hair, food, especially baking, especially kids' lifestyle on YouTube.
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I mean, I wouldn't consider YouTube like a real, like, career field like that.
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Even though I'm in this industry, like, I still wouldn't...
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I still, to this day, don't consider this like a real job.
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It's a lot of work, but I still don't, I don't know, put it at the same level.
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I mean, I see your argument, but typically, wherever there's men and women competing,
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men just outperform the women, because men tend to be better than women at many things.
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And men, a lot of times, have a higher incentive to work harder than women.
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So, my position, again, is that the wage gap does not exist, so we'll kind of try to
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Yeah, you were saying women deserve less, but how did you get here and who raised you?
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I don't know what that has to do with the argument, but...
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Because we have to take on a lot more things than men do.
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You said, well, the main point you were making is women deserve less, so...
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When it comes to being in the work field and making money and being in the workforce, women
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earn less because they deserve less most of the time.
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For the reasons I mentioned, they work less hours, they don't work as dangerous jobs,
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experience, education, all of these factors play in.
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And basically what happened was when we talk about the wage gap, right, they say like the
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man earns a dollar and the woman earns 80 cents.
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That comes from all working men versus all working women.
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So, all working men versus all working women, that doesn't account for education and all
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the other things that play into, you know, the situation as to why women get paid less.
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But being a mom or motherly duty doesn't really have to do with this.
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Women are encouraged a lot of times not to work and to be stay-at-home moms and to take
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Women are literally incentivized now to be single and pursue a career in education over
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So, the wage gap is closing due to that reason, right?
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Well, to a degree it is closing, but women still choose jobs a lot of the times that don't
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Women are more interested in jobs that, you know, social work, jobs that, like, teaching,
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jobs that have to deal with people, and those typically don't pay as much as, like, science,
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technology, engineering, math, or blue-collar jobs, which also pay a lot.
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My position is that women earn less because they deserve less most of the time.
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They might work lower-wage jobs, but they're doing way more to benefit the community.
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If it's social work, if it's whatever you just said.
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Well, I mean, the thing is, is that you typically get paid on the value that you provide, right?
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So, for example, a regular doctor might make $100,000 a year, but a brain surgeon is making
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So, the amount of value he provides is enormous, and only he can provide it.
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So, to an individual, they can decide what they find valuable or not.
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I know, obviously, healthcare, everyone needs healthcare.
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Yeah, but the point I'm trying to establish with that example is that the market dictates
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Every girl that graduates from college wants to be a social worker, but not everyone can
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And then, obviously, it's really needed because if you need a brain surgery or whatever, there's
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only a few people in your state that can do it.
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What does that have to do with men and women, though?
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I was giving you the example as to why adding value, right, is how you get paid.
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Because you were saying, oh, well, women do great work.
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But that job is replaceable by being a social worker versus being a brain surgeon.
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If you guys think women deserve less, then come on.
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I think the way you're saying it is coming off kind of condescending versus if you were
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to be like, men do more because they're physically able to do more.
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But, in that same stance, like, I mean, it's really hard to disagree with you.
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It's just the way you're saying it's coming off kind of like, ugh.
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The reality is that women tend to not work as hard as men because you guys don't have
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Well, I mean, if it came to, like, getting, like, drafted for the war, I mean, I'm happy
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Yeah, if you're going to get paid more regardless, yeah, go out there.
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No, no, actually, if we were both to join the military at the same level, we would get
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We would get paid the same even though you're physically inferior.
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And you have a lower standard that you have to achieve to get into the same military.
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So, I have a higher standard and I get paid less.
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Yeah, I don't necessarily disagree with you because.
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Same thing with being a cop, a firefighter, standards are lower, but you get paid the
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So, I would argue, if anything, we should be mad.
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Well, your statement is said condescendingly, but I don't necessarily think that you're wrong
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for your thought pattern because, in general, I do think that men tend to put in more work
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Because, like, I'm not trying to be out there doing nothing.
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Yeah, because you ain't got to say it like that.
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You could just be like, babe, I work harder than you, so I deserve a little bit more.
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Yeah, but you're acknowledging that men are superior, and then if I speak in a condescending
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way, you're like, well, don't talk to me like I'm lower, even though I am, but...
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Because it's rude, and you're supposed to be nice to everybody.
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I know this one wasn't on the script, but I'll get into it.
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But my next statement here, does anyone else want to do anything with the pay gap or anything?
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Yeah, because women don't want to pay for nothing, so we got to make more money.
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Men are superior to women in everything that matters.
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Again, men are superior to women in everything that matters.
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So if you disagree, feel free to come on up or raise your thing.
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Men are superior to women in everything that matters.
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I mean, you can make the argument that, like, oh, women are better at, you know, doing nails.
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They found that single fathers do better than single mothers.
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Men actually do better for raising productive children for society than women do.
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Well, women are better at doing lashes, but that doesn't really matter.
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Can you give me an example of how you think women think more than men?
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I just, honestly, it doesn't matter about the history.
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So, do you, I guess, is there anything that women are better than men at that you can think
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But, yeah, I think, can you name anything else that women are better than men at?
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Remember, guys, ladies, the prompt is men are superior to women in everything that matters.
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Men are superior to women in everything that matters.
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Well, men are superior to women with everything that matters.
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When you first get brought into this world, who is usually delivering you?
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But are the nurses, the ones who help deliver, wash the baby, change the baby, transport you,
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are they predominantly male or they're predominantly women?
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Well, it's predominantly overseen by a male doctor.
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And the hospital is being run by a man, typically.
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The infrastructure for the woman to be able to deliver the child in a sterile, clean environment
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The technology that's allowed them to do it without dying was all provided by men.
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I know men do have that structure or that infrastructure to be able to, you know, pay for everything,
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But it doesn't mean that you're superior just because in the beginning, let's just be honest
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But at the end of the day, God, seeing that he needed a woman, somebody to be by him.
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So he put him to sleep and took her out of the rib.
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So if he didn't need anybody, if he didn't need any female, why create it?
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Well, I'll be honest with you, when it comes to, like I said, men are better than women
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So if we had to rely on female ingenuity, we'd probably still be rubbing sticks together
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Women don't really invent anything or create anything or innovate for anything.
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When I say men are superior to women at everything that matters, I mean, as in like anything
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that like really matters for society and survival, like men are better than men.
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If you say that everything that matters, what matters actually in this day and age?
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Well, if I'm going to be very, very blunt about this, the only thing that really matters
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So yeah, see, you looked at me crazy because women don't even understand this concept because
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you guys have the privilege of not having to worry about this.
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But the reality is whoever monopolizes force controls things.
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The reason why you're able, right, to walk around in a safe, clean environment is because
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And that police is backed by a government, right?
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And that monopoly of force ensures order, right?
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It's the prompt is men are superior to women at everything that matters.
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I mean, if you guys are voting, you guys have to go off.
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If you guys are going to vote to kick them off, you got to, you got to.
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You can't just get her off and then be like, oh, sorry.
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So, um, what do you disagree with, um, with men are superior to women at everything that
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Women could do the same thing just as men, which is not appraised the way men are equivalent.
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What do you, what do you think that women can do the same as men?
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I know you said everything, but can you give me, like, a couple?
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Yeah, well, I'm, uh, waiting for you to give me an example of how they, uh, how they're superior to men.
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Wait, but that doesn't mean, like, she might be done with dudes.
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My position is men are superior to women at everything that matters.
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And I think that women are superior in expressing themselves better than men are.
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Because they brought up lesbians, but, like, then you have, like,
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gay men who could, like, do hair better and, like, do lashes better.
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But I think women are definitely better at expressing.
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Well, they beat the shit out of each other more.
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Lesbians actually have the highest domestic violence rates.
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Well, does that really make you better at expressing yourself if you've got to do it violently?
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I would argue men are actually better at holding their emotions, which is actually,
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Getting your emotions out all the time isn't necessarily good.
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I think the only reason women get away with it is because you guys don't deal with the
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For example, when women fight each other and they beat each other up, they don't really
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beat each other up because you guys are so weak.
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But, like, when men get violent and attack each other, someone can die.
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Like, I've noticed that women are far more likely to get in fights than men are.
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Like, because women don't, I don't think women properly understand the concept of violence.
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Like, how many times have you seen a girl say, I could beat a guy up.
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That tells me that she doesn't, she lives in a bizarre world.
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Because, like, a regular 15-year-old can beat up, like, 95% of women.
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But I don't think, like, a lot of girls have ever been punched in the face by a man before,
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Only girls that, unfortunately, only women that are not.
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That have been, like, victims of domestic violence or been fought with a guy before.
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Or, like, maybe an athlete, a boxer, or someone that sparred with a guy.
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They understand that concept, like, oh, no, I can't fight a guy ever.
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But, like, regular girls, for some odd reason, think they could fight men.
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I think because in their head, they think that he's not going to use full force on her.
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Because there's some weirdos out there that are waiting to fucking knock a chick out.
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But, uh, but yeah, so, you know, so do you have any examples of where women are superior
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I hate to do it to us, but being sexual, we're definitely better at it.
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Like, when I say being sexual, I mean, like, having, like, being, giving off that sexual
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energy, women are better at, like, seducing and kind of manipulating than men, I would
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I just, I don't think that, like, matters, though, in the grand scheme of the world.
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There's a way to be that being annoying, and the guys are.
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I mean, that's cool that, like, women can finesse men more, but ask yourself, I would
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argue that women finesse men because men are superior, so therefore they must use conniving
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...deception to get male attention because women understand that you need to align yourself
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So I would argue them using this tactic, it actually shows how men are superior because
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Because if they were so superior, they wouldn't need the guys, wouldn't they?
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So the argument is, um, the argument is, um, men are superior to women at everything
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I feel like women are better at dressing themselves, and I feel like women have a better fashion
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...a lot of fashion ties into culture and history.
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How would people know what's out if the woman didn't walk on the runway?
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Yeah, but there is no fashion show without the men.
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It goes into the economy, and then it raises tax money for people's children and schools.
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You know, it's interesting because, like, gay dudes are better than the things that women
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They just, they dominate the female industry in a lot of different ways.
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When I say superior, I mean as in something that they can compete in.
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They're the only ones who can, so they're superior.
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If they're the only ones that can, like, then that means that men can't even...
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I'm talking about, like, superior and everything where they can actually, like, compete.
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Yeah, but they can't wear women's clothes on the runway.
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Fashion is a demonstration of culture, of what your passions are, what you've been through
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Fashion is a huge indicator of a lot of things.
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When I look around the room, I look how everyone's dressed and I make judgments off of it.
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If fashion was so important, why does it change all the time?
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Like, you can get a black bag and it's gonna go with all of your outfits.
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But fashion doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.
00:38:28.920
If the electricity shut off tomorrow, no one would care about fashion.
00:38:33.180
They'd be fighting to make sure that they can get food, access to weapons.
00:38:36.280
Even people in the jungle cover up with leaves.
00:39:07.900
If women didn't have titties and vaginas, men would not spend their time and effort to
00:39:17.840
All right, well, come on up and prove me wrong.
00:39:22.480
The prompt is, if women didn't have vaginas and titties, men would not waste their time
00:39:58.500
I disagree because we have throats, and that also makes men happy.
00:40:17.680
You just reverted yourself down to, like, a throat.
00:40:23.220
I mean, you mentioned the rest of the body features would be gone, right?
00:40:28.940
Yeah, like, basically, like, yeah, basically, if women didn't have titties or vaginas, men
00:40:41.380
If we removed all orifices, okay, men would not spend their time talking to women.
00:40:57.920
I would say probably a minority of men are feet guys.
00:41:03.460
That's the, I'm pretty sure that's a lie, because it, you know, it does the job.
00:41:17.620
If men did, if women didn't have titties, vaginas, or I guess throats in this case, men would
00:41:23.640
not talk to them or spend the amount of time or pursuit that they do.
00:41:45.940
Actually, I was expecting some funny questions.
00:41:48.340
Somebody tell me, is they inviting me for a funny show?
00:42:02.900
So you're saying that men would not chase the woman if we would not have boobs and vaginas.
00:42:09.380
I think men would do it because genetically the God create men to...
00:42:18.500
To fuck as more as possible women because you are responsible for reproducing the human race.
00:42:27.340
So we need to choose the best men from in the area to make the child because the child will have the best genes.
00:42:33.920
So because of this for women is important to have one but the best male.
00:42:38.620
And for men is important to fuck many women because it's your job, guys.
00:42:45.640
So this is naturally you have a need to doing that.
00:43:02.460
Like, if it wasn't for women's sexuality, men wouldn't deal with them is my point.
00:43:08.200
I speak about the nature of things that you need to do.
00:43:11.680
Animals doesn't have a lot of stuff, but they still fucking.
00:43:29.340
And he said, uh, so if women didn't have vaginas, toes, butts, whatever, men would not
00:43:45.140
Because if, if basically if women didn't have all those things, they're pretty much going
00:43:56.860
Outside of female sexuality, there's virtually no benefit to being around women.
00:44:03.220
Do you, on your everyday basis, do you hang around more men or do you hang around more
00:44:11.160
You're far more productive hanging out with other men as a man.
00:44:21.800
Um, so, so if you said if they don't have vaginas and they don't have tits, so who do
00:44:38.740
What I'm saying is that outside of sexuality, women provide very little value to men.
00:44:43.860
And if they didn't have said sexuality, men would not spend time hanging out with them.
00:44:48.180
Men would have spent time hanging out with them because women are beautiful.
00:44:55.680
You made all, notice how even when you said they would hang out with them, you gave all
00:44:59.020
the things I said as to why men deal with them.
00:45:01.540
No, but you started using, no, I asked you, would you hang out with men more because of
00:45:07.380
Because if women didn't have all those things, would you hang out with men more?
00:45:14.720
Sexuality is the first thing that you're supposed to have.
00:45:21.280
But you're supposed to pursue women because they have more feminine qualities than men.
00:45:27.500
My point I'm trying to make here is that men only pursue women for sexuality.
00:45:31.080
If women didn't have sexuality, men would not pursue them.
00:45:33.840
And men probably would not want to spend time with them.
00:45:35.580
And my point is that women provide very little utility to men outside of sex.
00:46:13.640
Oh, give your age and what you do for work and stuff.
00:46:25.220
So we got to, we got to, hey, it's like the most Miami panel ever.
00:46:28.660
So my position is women outside of sexuality don't provide much utility to men.
00:46:34.160
I completely agree, especially with how things are nowadays.
00:46:38.320
That's the only reason why a man approaches a woman.
00:46:45.900
That's why she, like, yeah, you just want to go off the panel because I agree.
00:46:59.700
Obviously, I was, you know, I gave a prompt that's kind of funny.
00:47:01.880
If women didn't have tits or vaginas, men wouldn't talk to them.
00:47:04.560
But the point, the main bottom line, ladies, to simplify it is women provide very little utility to men outside of sexuality.
00:47:22.920
However, there are some women, probably about 40% of women.
00:47:32.240
But what I would argue is that men don't even care about their personality if they don't meet the look factor first.
00:47:40.300
So the, so the, so the sexuality needs to, the, the, the sexuality precedes the personality.
00:47:59.640
And you think those guys hang out with you because of your personality?
00:48:11.740
We talk about their mental health, my mental health.
00:48:14.220
We talk about things that's going on in the world.
00:48:22.480
I think if the opportunity presented itself, they would have sex with you.
00:48:41.420
Literally tell them, hey, I'm wondering why we never took it to the next step.
00:48:51.280
So what you're going to do is you're just going to call your guy, put on speaker, hold it up
00:48:56.400
At the end, you can tell him, I'm just kidding.
00:48:58.300
So you don't like put yourself in a weird spot, dude, get some horn dog and fucking calls
00:49:03.060
But yeah, you're just going to call him and say, hey, um, Tyrone, why did we ever become
00:49:29.160
I want you to call him and say, all right, um, why didn't we ever become anything?
00:49:53.360
Cause we've had that where girls call the gay one.
00:49:56.960
Put it up to the mic so they can hear and put on speaker.
00:50:23.380
To you, he's just a friend, but to him, he's like, damn, I'm trying.
00:50:32.980
Maybe he's not answering because this is a sign, but here you go.
00:50:41.880
So anyway, my position is, um, women, um, men are superior.
00:50:47.260
No, uh, women have very little utility out of sexuality.
00:50:53.040
I think to be honest with you that these guys converse with you in business and get to know
00:50:57.220
your personality on the pretense that they're hoping that they can have sex with you in the
00:51:04.200
I want to say, okay, possibly, but maybe only one or two made little hints, not.
00:51:13.740
Well, you got to understand that men are terrified of rejection in 2025.
00:51:19.340
And I'm going to assume that these men that you're friends with are probably lower status,
00:51:23.660
maybe not as attractive, don't have as much money, don't have some status.
00:51:26.320
So they're not attractive enough, but they're nice converse, uh, conversationless or something.
00:51:30.760
No, I only converse with people that I feel like is on my level or above me.
00:51:40.920
Maybe they have a girlfriend, but they still want you.
00:51:44.100
There's a multitude of different reasons why women put guys in a friend zone.
00:51:46.980
But the point I'm trying to make is, is that notice how you can be friends with someone
00:51:50.140
that is at a higher echelon than you, that you get value from, but they're not really
00:51:54.620
getting value back from you, even though you think you are.
00:51:57.060
The real value they want is the sexuality, but they're not getting that.
00:52:01.660
So that's what I mean when I say being friends with women is useless and women get all the value.
00:52:10.720
Well, whoever got her out, just, uh, I hope you got something better to say.
00:52:15.240
Just raise it back up and come back if they don't say anything better.
00:52:19.240
So the argument is, uh, my position is, uh, women provide little value outside of sexuality.
00:52:33.300
Like, no, wait, just go with, go along with me.
00:52:37.260
So women are more nurturing because men think with their pineal gland.
00:52:40.480
So when you have, um, a bad day, no, but when you have a bad day and you want to talk to somebody,
00:52:51.900
They're going to make you feel better about yourself.
00:52:54.300
And maybe because you hang around men all day and other men probably hang around men all day.
00:53:01.860
And then, so I suppose I'm trying to say the value we provide is nurturing and emotional.
00:53:12.260
So, um, what I've realized between men and women, right.
00:53:15.880
When they're confiding in each other, women just want to talk to somebody and talk about
00:53:21.720
Men on the other hand, they typically talk about their problems, looking for a solution
00:53:25.040
because for men to open up, um, it's gotta be worth it for women to open up.
00:53:29.920
So, and this happens all the time when I talk with women, like they'll just want to get vent
00:53:35.940
They don't really care about a solution, but with men, it's like they're looking for a solution.
00:53:38.400
So I would argue talking to men is far more beneficial because number one, they are probably
00:53:43.400
dealing with your problems to some degree and they can actually provide some advice, assuming
00:53:46.280
they've accomplished something versus a woman is going to hear your problems, but not really
00:53:53.140
I don't think telling women your problems is a good idea as a man ever.
00:54:00.340
But why do you think you're advising men that they shouldn't confide in women?
00:54:05.680
And then like, I feel like you're just giving them bad advice.
00:54:14.700
Let's say, um, let's, let's, let's, let's use a female example here.
00:54:19.460
Let's say you went to nail salon and they did a shitty job.
00:54:31.780
And, um, you go home and you're pissed off and, uh, your man tells you, oh, it's not
00:54:37.680
Like you should get your nail done like this and done like that.
00:54:39.780
But he doesn't know anything about nails or proper salons or workmanship or any of this
00:54:50.980
Because he's not as experienced on the topic as I am.
00:54:56.400
And he hasn't been through your feminine experiences, understanding what should be done and what shouldn't
00:55:01.540
But, uh, I would want him to be like, I'm so sorry that happened to you.
00:55:05.240
And that actually proves my point before where women just want to be heard.
00:55:09.600
Men just want to find a solution and sometimes women just want to be heard.
00:55:12.600
Well, let me give you, and that's, that's, that's the big difference where when men talk
00:55:20.940
But let's go back to that scenario with the nails.
00:55:23.240
So the man isn't going to give you good advice, right?
00:55:25.760
So you're going to kind of go ahead and figure it out on your own or talk to your
00:55:28.520
girlfriends because they might be able to help you more, right?
00:55:35.760
You can probably get, talk with them and get a solution.
00:55:42.100
Would that be fair to say to help you in this problem with your nails?
00:55:48.860
We go through things that you guys will never, ever experience and don't understand.
00:55:52.560
So it's better to talk to men that understand those problems and can give you a solution
00:55:59.380
Because unfortunately, women can't help men with most of their problems.
00:56:34.720
I will speak about my country, not about America.
00:56:36.640
Because what I understand in America, the women, the girls, all the cultural is completely different from mine.
00:56:42.700
And what you're saying is completely different from mine.
00:56:48.320
Because women are, you know, it's like the best friends.
00:56:52.600
The women, they care about the house, about the food.
00:56:58.340
Actually, for men, it's a big luck to be with a woman.
00:57:02.500
We take care about ourselves, about him, about children, about everything.
00:57:06.800
So, because of this, in my country, most of the people living together many, many years.
00:57:10.600
For example, my mom and papa together, 40 years.
00:57:16.240
They're kissing each other, hugging each other.
00:57:25.540
No, I said women don't provide much utility to men outside of sex.
00:57:47.540
I think any guy that needs inspiration for women is fucked.
00:57:54.280
Do you really want to be your husband's inspiration?
00:57:56.880
Like, you should already be inspired to work anyway.
00:57:59.260
I would argue women want a guy that's productive with or without them.
00:58:04.000
Like, with any billionaire, there is the woman who helped him to become billionaire.
00:58:10.580
They just say that to make you guys feel better.
00:58:16.180
Do you know any guy who was single all his life and he became billionaire?
00:58:25.760
As a matter of fact, gay men make a lot more money than heterosexual men.
00:58:36.080
Well, the thing is, look, and I hate to use this example, but it's true.
00:58:39.740
Gay men outperform heterosexual men financially.
00:58:43.640
And it's because dealing with women is a huge wealth drain.
00:58:48.260
The average man, over a lifetime, loses about $7 million in the pursuit of women.
00:58:52.280
This has been shown in a book by Aaron Clary, The Book of Numbers.
00:58:55.760
Roughly $7 million a heterosexual man will lose over the pursuit of women, over a lifetime.
00:59:04.120
Losing is when you do something bad, but he's enjoying his life.
00:59:07.280
I mean, if he lost $7 million, I would argue that's losing.
00:59:14.320
The point I'm trying to make is that heterosexual men pay a hefty cost for dealing with women.
00:59:20.680
Because you're trying to say, oh, single men, are they going to do as good?
00:59:25.800
And if they're gay, they don't have to deal with women.
00:59:31.320
Because the gay men also pretend they are women as they do the same stuff.
00:59:42.320
I've been in the gay club a couple days ago, and they speak about that.
00:59:52.120
Though that does exist, men are far more likely to pay their own tab, and they don't necessarily
01:00:00.220
Women have a sense of entitlement when they deal with men.
01:00:03.000
I don't know that a gay who pretends they are women, and they make their own position in
01:00:10.680
Remember, the argument is women provide very little utility to men outside of sex.
01:00:16.400
And you made the argument that they can make more money with a woman.
01:00:20.580
And I argue women, if anything, take money from you.
01:00:29.340
The problem is why men choose the women who suck in your money?
01:00:34.220
Why you don't choose the woman with the good soul?
01:00:36.340
It's your problem that you choose the bitch who suck in your money.
01:00:42.760
So who is guilty that you're spending money and take the bitch?
01:01:03.900
And the French didn't come because he's scared to leave me again.
01:01:40.360
I thank you for proving that women are pretty useless outside of sex.
01:01:57.640
Did anyone else want to come in or I go to the next topic?
01:02:08.000
You didn't get to finish what you were saying before.
01:02:09.420
So the argument is women provide little value to men outside of sex.
01:02:13.100
Really, honestly, do you go to your bros for comfort to be able to talk?
01:02:17.980
Actually, I think it's better to go to your friends.
01:02:23.300
Even after every session that you have here, you go to the club.
01:02:27.620
Do you go to the club to chill with the bros or you go to the club to ball out and spend
01:02:34.200
Are you asking me this personally or men in general?
01:02:39.140
Now, I'll answer your question, but I don't think this is an adequate representation of
01:02:48.820
You want me to answer more generally then so I can give you a better answer?
01:02:53.480
I was just saying men genuinely don't go to their other bros for comfort.
01:02:58.440
Sometimes they need a woman to be able to reach out to.
01:03:05.680
They don't go to their homies and bros because they can't vent to their homies or they can't
01:03:10.520
vent to their guys like they could vent to the female.
01:03:13.540
They don't feel like they could be feminine and open up and be soft with their dudes because
01:03:18.020
they might get judged based on what they say or how they say it.
01:03:37.340
I listen to everything you said and then you're just like, what the hell?
01:03:51.560
Number one, men don't go to the club to open up to women.
01:03:57.660
Number two, you mentioned why are guys going to open up to their friends, their guy friends
01:04:04.160
The reason why men should talk to their guy friends is because men are in a better position
01:04:09.840
Remember the example I gave with her in the nails?
01:04:11.860
You're not going to go to your boyfriend to get legitimate strategic advice on how to deal.
01:04:15.560
with your nail problem and getting overcharged at the shop and finding a better person.
01:04:19.140
You're going to go to another woman or someone that can actually advise you on that.
01:04:23.760
Going to women and talking about your problems isn't going to be helpful because quite frankly,
01:04:29.380
I think women live life on easy mode if I'm going to be all the way honest.
01:04:32.180
So what the hell do I look like asking someone who plays the game on easy mode how to deal
01:04:41.720
Personally, I don't feel like men feel comfortable enough.
01:04:48.020
They're there to enjoy, but they're not there to give you the comfort and that nourishing
01:04:59.440
A lot of the dudes that hang around other dudes, it's fun to hang around men all the
01:05:06.580
But at the end of the day, when it comes to certain situations, can you go to the homies
01:05:25.200
All men are built and they're all raised differently.
01:05:30.000
They actually do understand because men go through the same things.
01:05:32.500
I understand some dudes, they go to their homies.
01:05:36.340
They want to go to their bros to be able to reach out and talk to them.
01:05:43.620
Because they don't feel like they can open up and be honest and be truthful with a lot
01:05:48.560
So that's why they always feel like they have to put on a show or put on a facade, put on
01:05:53.680
some type of something for another man to be able to feed into.
01:05:57.480
And they don't have to pursue nobody beautiful.
01:06:19.760
Why pursue women if they're not sexually attractive?
01:06:23.400
Majority of non-sexually attractive people got money.
01:06:33.640
So you mentioned that they need to go to women for comfort.
01:06:38.100
Again, with men, looking for comfort is the problem.
01:06:42.400
Because as a man, we have a burden of performance.
01:06:44.640
We have to go out there and make money, acquire resources, acquire status.
01:06:48.520
Only women can be vulnerable and still be taken seriously.
01:06:53.240
So I would argue, you're saying you can go to your homies and they'll make fun of you.
01:06:56.960
You'd be surprised at how going to your friends and talking about your problems, you can come up with a solution.
01:07:01.760
Going to your girl and talking about your problems actually makes you less attractive.
01:07:04.920
Women don't want a guy that's going to sit there and sob on them.
01:07:06.980
They want a guy that's going to be a problem solver and just understands how to fix a problem.
01:07:11.420
The guy that comes to you and says, oh, I don't know how we're going to pay rent this month.
01:07:16.680
He goes and talks to his friends, figures out a way, and comes back and pays the rent.
01:07:20.380
The reality is women are not equipped to handle male problems.
01:07:24.060
Because you guys, with all due respect, women aren't loyal.
01:07:28.540
And what I mean by this is you guys are not inherently loyal creatures.
01:07:31.540
You guys are loyal to the strongest man that can protect you and provide for you.
01:07:35.160
So this is why women, yeah, this is a biological thing.
01:07:39.020
Brifold's Law basically states that as long as a man provides value, a woman will continue.
01:08:00.900
But honestly, I don't feel like men can be able to reach other heights that they can reach with women.
01:08:07.700
I just explained to you why men will reach more heights.
01:08:10.200
Do you only choose, if you choose to vent to a man, do you choose to vent to other men or do you choose to lay down with a woman?
01:08:22.920
When you open up to somebody, who do you open up to?
01:08:25.900
To other men that are actually equipped to handle your problems.
01:08:35.620
Have they been raised the right way in a decent parent home?
01:08:41.340
Okay, so this comes back to the problem that women don't understand men.
01:08:47.560
When men talk to men and have a problem, they're looking for a solution.
01:08:50.760
When women talk to other women, they're looking for comfort.
01:08:57.740
A woman is not going to give you a solution to your masculine problem.
01:09:02.020
When you sit there and say, I don't know, I'm going to pay the bills.
01:09:06.740
But then she's going to say, damn, this nigga's a bitch.
01:09:10.240
So the reality is women are not equipped to handle masculine problems.
01:09:17.180
Going to a woman to try to get your problem fixed is futile.
01:09:21.040
Because women don't really give a shit about helping men that can't help themselves.
01:09:31.320
Say if a man say, oh, we can't get this bill paid.
01:09:38.260
In certain places, they start selling their bodies to be able to structure the home.
01:09:53.520
Even in abuse, in bad situations, they stay around.
01:09:55.000
When women make their own money, the last thing they want to do is support a man.
01:09:56.920
The last thing they want to do is support a man.
01:10:00.180
When women make good money, when women make good money, they don't need a man.
01:10:10.460
When women make enough money, they don't really need a man.
01:10:19.520
When they make enough money, they really don't need a man.
01:10:23.060
You do understand your sentence just defeated your entire argument, right?
01:10:29.720
You said women cannot be able to fight off or offend for the household if they couldn't pay rent.
01:10:40.560
If a man, does a man have to work harder or does the woman have to work harder?
01:10:44.620
First, I said, if a man can't provide, a woman's going to get rid of him.
01:10:48.420
Then you said, oh, no, but women can make their own money.
01:10:51.420
If they make their own money, it's going to be even worse.
01:10:53.760
Then you literally follow up and say, yeah, if women make their own money, they don't need a man.
01:11:03.420
Men need women's support to be able to move forward.
01:11:18.380
If not, they end up like hard men and always feel like they need to do the right thing.
01:11:29.280
I don't necessarily disagree, but I'm not going to lie to you.
01:11:33.000
Men definitely like to be little spoons sometimes.
01:11:35.400
So men like to express, you know, their feelings towards the woman just a little bit.
01:11:39.620
Like they want to be comforted sometimes because then you wouldn't be having the fucking 6'2 guy
01:11:47.180
with like the 5'3 girl over here hugging up on him, trying to like, you know, giving him comfort.
01:11:54.240
You'd be surprised how many men want to be little spoon.
01:12:02.500
What I am saying is that there are still men out there who are like, they have that sensitivity in them
01:12:10.360
where maybe they didn't get it from their moms, which I think she was trying to touch on like how they were raised.
01:12:16.120
But like men, sometimes they, in most situations, he's probably going to go to his bros because he's going to be like, all right.
01:12:23.320
But then there could be that one time where like men like to be baby too.
01:12:27.120
Like not all men want to be strong all goddamn day long.
01:12:29.720
Like sometimes they want to be like their girlfriend's little baby.
01:12:33.240
And you can't be your homeboy's little baby because he's going to make you be a man.
01:12:36.620
The argument is if women didn't have titties and ass, men wouldn't really talk to them.
01:12:41.540
In other words, women provide very little value outside of their sexuality.
01:12:50.840
Because she was saying that women can provide, because her argument was women can provide emotional support.
01:12:58.080
And I was arguing that men don't really need emotional support from women.
01:13:01.140
They need, if anything, they need solutions from other men that are equipped to handle their problems.
01:13:07.920
No, because we're giving it from a more emotional mommy stance instead of a life.
01:13:13.080
And not only that, you're giving it from I live life on easy mode stance.
01:13:16.960
And the other thing also that is why it doesn't work is because women lose attraction for you when you defer to their authority.
01:13:23.860
If I ask you questions, that assumes me and you are equal.
01:13:28.340
Yeah, especially depending on what the questions are about because I don't know nothing.
01:13:35.060
Like if you actually boil it down, it all makes sense.
01:13:38.980
Women are attracted to men that are superior to them.
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And if I ask you questions, yeah, like even, yeah, it's natural.
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So if I come in and I try to make you an equal and say, well, what do you think about this?
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You're going to look at me like, oh, this guy's an equal to me.
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Yeah, women want decisive men that kind of have it figured out.
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Yeah, I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I do say that men, I mean, even, even if women didn't have the boobs and butt and stuff,
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I mean, you're not trying to little spoon your bro.
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Oh, guys, Castle Club CC17 active for another week now, just so make sure to get in there.
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All right, the next prompt is if you're over 30, you're expired.
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Yo, Iraq, just nut up and ask the man to go on a date.
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Uh, men can cheat and keep that main relationship long term, but women can't cheat ever.
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Uh, going back to yesterday's discussion about the Allah Akbar boy, being a jeep myself,
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the rebuttal would be that the girls in their culture are not like the Miami girls.
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Uh, little do they know that most of these bitches are huge libs and feminists.
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Is he saying Muslim girls are just like regular girls?
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They're liberals and feminists and they pray through Florida times a day.
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But like, what did he, he said yesterday's discussion?
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He's saying there's not much of a difference between Miami girls and religious girls.
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We're going to do better than, we're going to, we're going to.
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So it's hard to argue with someone when you see their point of view.
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Some other girls disagree and they can't really.
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We got like 10,000 plus watching on all the platforms?
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Uh, the next prompt is going to be, uh, we can do that one.
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So ladies, um, let's pull that up on the screen real quick.
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And guys, if you got a, if you guys got a good prompt, we will select it.
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Uh, and I think we got some OSS things probably too.
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Um, so feel free to look at their, um, a lot, no, um, a lot of those chats were also from
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Uh, let's go ahead and do that one with, uh, one chess.
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Like, like the one from that said fuck Jubilee.
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Uh, men can cheat and keep the main relationship longterm, but women can't cheat ever.
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He's basically saying men can cheat and women can't.
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I am saying nobody can cheat each other because if you have relationship, it should be pure
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So we are together to have a family, kids, and beautiful life.
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I think his argument isn't necessarily that, um, that it's good.
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He's saying that men are capable of cheating and the relationship won't be destroyed versus
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I think everybody is different, but I mean, I would not forgive the cheating.
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If you were in a relationship with a guy, what's worse, you cheating or him cheating?
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Because this is my personality because my mama raised me like that.
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Because her mother probably raised her like that.
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Okay, so it's fair to say that this has happened over many generations.
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I think, yes, because in my country, actually, it's a very was judging if woman fucking around.
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If somebody knows that you're doing this, like, wow, nobody talked to you.
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Actually, the society would not like to talk to you, especially the man would never want to have you.
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What, by the way, is surprising, like in America, the girls bragging, I'm only fan, only fans models.
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Like, they bragging to be bitches, they bragging.
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Shame for your family, especially for the parents.
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All right, so let me make sure I have this right.
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The reason why is because it hurts their ability to find a man.
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In my country, the man always, when he started, before he started dating you, he always asked the other guys and the society, who is this girl, who is she fuck, what is her reputation?
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Because if your reputation is bad, so sorry, you cannot, in my country, you will not be able to get, like, high status man.
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Let's say the man has sex with a bunch of women.
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So now you see why men can cheat and women can't.
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It's that men are capable and the relationship can still be intact versus if the woman cheats, it's over.
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I know it sounds fucked up, but some men depend on a woman for I don't know what specifically,
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but they depend on that woman to keep that relationship going.
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Let me rephrase this so you understand it's very...
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What I'm saying is that men are capable of cheating and the relationship can still stay intact.
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However, if the woman cheats, the relationship is over.
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Have you ever seen that meme where he's like, oh, well, did you sleep with him?
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And then he goes off and then he's like, can we get back together?
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And she's like, nah, I don't want to get back together.
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Oh, well, ask yourself, why do they not want to get back to...
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Why does she not want to get back together with him?
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Believe it or not, believe it or not, in my opinion, I believe women can cheat.
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If the man really does love her and really does respect her as a woman, she can...
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They still have partners continuously every single day.
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So you're telling me a woman cannot cheat in a relationship, but a man can cheat in a relationship.
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But a woman can cheat in a relationship, but the relationship still can't be intact.
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Sorry, men forgive women for being in a relationship.
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Basically, what I was saying about that, but women can cheat in a relationship.
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If men really, really love the woman enough, if they really have a structure and they really have a good relationship,
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she could cheat and she could leave in the relationship or she could go sleep around with whoever she wants to and come back.
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It might be a little bit more of a pushover type dude.
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But at the end of the day, if he's a pushover, he's going to take that woman back regardless.
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If he really, really loves her and really cares for her, does it matter who she sleeps with?
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Same thing, you know, and that denotes to the point that you said men, men are willing to cheat and women will take them back.
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But what if a woman takes them back in the situation?
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What if he really loves her and really cares for her?
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And he says, oh, I don't care how much men you slept with.
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I don't care how much dudes you fucked around with.
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The purpose of asking that question was to demonstrate something.
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You don't feel comfortable answering that question, right?
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No, I'm saying you don't feel, yeah, you don't feel comfortable answering that question, right?
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No, I don't feel comfortable answering that question, sir.
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Now, instead of answering that question, let's go in to appeal it.
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Why did you feel uncomfortable answering that question?
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Because it's just a random question that I'm just not answering, you know, because a lot
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of people just don't want to put their body count out there.
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They don't want to just put their sexual history and people that they slept with and how many
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They don't want to have to get involved in that.
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But in my opinion, if it's the right female with the right attitude and he really fucks with
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her and he really likes who she is as a person, he'll accept her for who she is.
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So, look, I asked you that question on purpose.
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Actually, I knew that you were going to hesitate.
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The reason why you hesitated is because women understand intrinsically that their body count
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And that worth is tied to their ability to find a man in the future.
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She kind of described it earlier, Miss Ukraine.
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And this is something that's been all across the world, whether it's Hispanic culture, Muslim
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culture, Arab culture, Christian culture, Jewish culture.
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And you hesitated to give the answer because, you know, deep down, if you give that answer,
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well, that could disqualify you from certain opportunities from certain men.
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And I'm not saying that to attack you, but if I asked any of the women here, they would
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Because women understand that their body count is tied to their virtue.
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Their virtue is what makes them attractive to men and so forth.
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And your ability to find a man will go down off of that as well.
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This is why women don't like to disclose their sexual history.
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Now, the reason for this is because it's easy for women to have sex.
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However, it takes a lot of skill for a man to have sex.
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If a man has sex with a lot of women, he's doing something right.
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Whether you guys want to say, oh, it's ethically wrong.
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My point is that he's doing something right, whether he has status, he has money, he's
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charming, he's good looking, he's doing something right.
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Versus if a woman is having sex with a lot of dudes, she's doing something very wrong.
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This is why the brain surgeon gets far more respect than the high school graduate.
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Because that person had to put in the work to get to that level.
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So now that we've established why sex for men is different than it is for women,
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now we can kind of go into this topic about promiscuity and then why a man can she and
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For a man to get sex from another girl, for us, it's just physical.
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It's not deeply, you know, it's not deep like it is for you guys.
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This is why it's so bad when you have high body count.
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Because what's effectively shown is that your soul is gone because you're just fucking
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Men, on the other hand, we don't need those same emotional ties.
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So we can fuck another girl and come back to her wife and be fine.
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So when I make the argument that a man can cheat on his girlfriend and the relationship
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will stay intact, yeah, there's a high likelihood.
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Now, is there a chance that he could fall in love with a girl?
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But what I am saying is that if the woman cheats, it's over.
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Because she had to get to a certain emotional position to be able to do that.
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Now, here's the, and if I'm going to simplify this even more, I'll just say this.
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When a woman cheats, it's premeditated murder serial killer vibes.
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She had to plan that shit out and get herself to a certain mind state before she did it.
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Because women know that their value is directly tied to their promiscuity.
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Versus for us, our value goes up with our promiscuity.
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A woman's job when she gets into a relationship is to just not be a whore.
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With us, if we cheat on you, we can still provide value.
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We could provide for you, protect you, give you a home, give you kids, etc.
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Because your only job is to have our kids and not embarrass us by being a whore.
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You'll be able to come in right after, I guess.
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Men can cheat and the relationship will stay intact or can stay intact or capable of staying intact.
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But women can cheat on men and the men will stay.
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Do you think this is a desirable man that sticks around?
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Because guys that stick around with women cheating on them typically have less options, aren't as attractive, and have a lower value.
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And to make it even worse, if your woman cheats on you and you stick around, she loses all respect for you.
01:29:30.100
Because women know deep down that the only thing men really care about is not being a whore.
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Let's have fun with this so you really understand where I'm coming from.
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So you're at the nightclub with your guy, right?
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So you get outside, and some guy walks up, punches you in the fucking face, steals your purse, and runs off.
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The guy runs after the dude, beats his ass, and gets your purse back, puts him in the hospital.
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Or other scenario, he doesn't do anything, freaks out, and doesn't know what's going on.
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Now, would you stay with the guy that freaks out, and doesn't know what's going on?
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Would it be fair to say that he betrayed his duty to you?
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His job was to protect and provide for you, right?
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That's exactly how we feel when you guys cheat on us.
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Just like the dude that didn't want to chase the guy down and protect you, right?
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You feel like, holy shit, I don't feel safe with this guy.
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I don't feel protected with her where she's going to destroy my name, going out there being a 304.
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If we have kids, I don't know if the kid's going to be mine.
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So just like you feel like he betrayed you by not protecting you, I feel like you betrayed me by not protecting my kid.
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You've got to understand that men and women are different.
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So, like, a big violation on you is not going to be the same as a big violation on me.
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Since men and women are different and we're opposing each other, we're adversarial, there's different violations from the opposite genders.
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Your biggest chief concern is can you provide or protect?
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So if I don't do my job and I don't protect you and I just let the dude sock you and take your shit, you're going to leave me.
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Same as if you cheat on me, you can't do your job.
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Because a woman's only job, really, is to not be a whore.
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Yeah, those girls typically don't get the ring.
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Or if they do, it's for a short period of time.
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Oh, the relationships never last with strippers.
01:32:38.080
All right, who else disagrees with men can cheat and the relationship will stay intact, but
01:32:58.380
So, I feel like it depends on who the main breadwinner is.
01:33:03.180
Because if the woman is the main breadwinner and she's holding all the masculine energy,
01:33:09.760
I feel as though that at that point, then it doesn't matter.
01:33:14.280
Like, if he cheats, then yeah, you got to go because, like, I'm the one paying all the
01:33:18.100
Well, that's where the guy failed is by even allowing the woman to be in a position of power
01:33:22.060
And, like, in this day and age, a lot of the times women are, like, holding the home.
01:33:27.600
Yeah, I would agree with you that allowing a woman to control the frame like that and
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be the breadwinner, which naturally puts her in a leadership role.
01:33:34.600
If she cheats on you, you did that to yourself by being an idiot.
01:33:38.940
Yeah, but then what I was saying in that same token, like, if he cheats, then he would be,
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like, in that role of, like, that's not okay because, like, you're not even, like,
01:33:54.160
Okay, number one, when women have levers, they're terrible people.
01:33:56.800
So what you described before with when women have money, yeah, you're right, they're terrible
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And they will go ahead and dog you out and be 304s and talk to you crazy.
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If I boss my girl around and I'm the moneymaker and I tell her, hey, go to the fucking kitchen
01:34:12.500
or, hey, make me a sandwich or, hey, I'm going to go out, fuck some bitches and come
01:34:14.820
back, that's okay because that's actually a dynamic that women are attracted to.
01:34:18.580
So, like, women, whether they want to admit it or not, like that dominant, assertive lifestyle.
01:34:23.980
And I can still provide for her and I'm in my masculine, she's in her feminine by following
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But when it's the other way around and she's the one making the money, bossing me around
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She's by definition of her fucking other guy, she's not attracted to me.
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Because women don't want to run around and fuck other guys.
01:34:42.200
Most of the time when women cheat, it's kind of out of necessity.
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But, like, women go out, have fun, and get drunk, and mistakes happen with women too.
01:34:54.920
A lot of times where, like, the woman forgives the man is because, alright, the man, he messed
01:34:59.080
up, like, he went out, had a ball with his friends, and then, like, you know, he may have
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Like, they might be out with their girls and, like...
01:35:09.580
But what if she wakes up and she's, like, in, like, full remorse?
01:35:18.000
This is why, like, girls shouldn't be going out and drinking with the girls' nights out
01:35:28.340
No, but alcohol goes in the body the same way for men and women, and it affects men and
01:35:35.980
Women in a relationship shouldn't even be drinking without their man around.
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If a woman's gonna drink, right, she's gotta be there with her guy.
01:35:58.680
But going out and drinking with your girl, I think that's an L.
01:36:01.540
What if it's, like, office party, and then, like, she's, like, top of her game, you're
01:36:11.300
Okay, well, then that defeats the whole argument, because I agree with that.
01:36:18.640
I think a part of a man, like, being a man, right, is, like, you gotta protect women from
01:36:23.220
Like, are these scenarios that you gave, they shouldn't even have been scenarios in the first
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Her going out with her girlfriends and drinking without you being there.
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Her having these office parties with her colleagues, like, working an office job in general.
01:36:48.360
Because, like, men, they'll cut their work wife off as soon as they leave that office.
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But women, she's, like, day-during about him when she gets home.
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Because women have to get to a certain place, a certain place, Cerebrally, to even, like,
01:37:00.480
This is why, like, I look at it like, if a woman cheats, it's, like, the ultimate betrayal.
01:37:21.480
Women provide very little utility to men outside of sex.
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Because there are male therapists that also, like.
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Like, it doesn't help to ever open up to women.
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I think women take it to the chin better than men do.
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Like, women are more willing to be, like, passive about it.
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women provide very little utility outside of sex, right?
01:38:24.060
Then, very few of you can come up with any points.
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She gave one point, but it doesn't really make sense.
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Then I said, okay, since women provide very little outside of sex,
01:38:39.800
And then I gave the example with her earlier, where I said,
01:38:46.740
Because she said right away, yeah, if he doesn't go chase that guy down,
01:38:54.640
Well, you need to know your partner, though, too.
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Like, if you know you're out here dating a nerd,
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girl, don't be mad at him that he didn't chase that man.
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Women look for these things already when they deal with the guy.
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I don't feel safer on this girl because she might fucking cheat on me.
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Obviously, guys, we're doing it with, I think, nine tonight.
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But in the future, we're going to do it with 20.
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The next prompt is women should never leave their marriage for their happiness.
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Women should never leave their marriage for their happiness.
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I said women should never leave their marriage only for their happiness.
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Like if their happiness is like, oh, I'm not happy.
01:40:29.260
So, I'm arguing you should not leave your marriage just because you're unhappy.
01:40:43.520
Women should not leave their marriage just because they're unhappy.
01:40:53.120
I feel that women should leave a man if she's unhappy because she could always remarry.
01:41:06.540
But what I'm arguing is that a lot of women leave their...
01:41:10.640
So, women will destroy their marriage for their happiness, but men will destroy their happiness for their marriage.
01:41:16.820
Like women overwhelmingly initiate divorces in America.
01:41:20.320
And I think that's a problem, especially when you have kids.
01:41:24.300
But a lot of times they have kids, and that fucks up everything for the child.
01:41:30.080
It does mess up the development as far as the children.
01:41:33.320
But they do not have to be raised by both parents at the same time.
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So, she's sacrificing her child's development for her happiness, which ends up happening most of the time.
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My argument is you should bear it out, not be happy.
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At least get your kid to college, bare minimum.
01:41:59.060
I feel that they should not thug it out because you're going to waste your youth on that marriage, on that man that is not deserving.
01:42:04.820
When you could just go out there and reach your goals of what you want to be, what's the definition of true happiness,
01:42:12.660
than being with an image that isn't a delusion world.
01:42:15.080
Well, thank you for proving once again that women provide less little value outside of their sexuality.
01:42:20.780
Because you literally cited your youth as one of the main reasons why you need to get out of there,
01:42:24.280
which proves my point that a woman's sexual market value is perishable.
01:42:27.440
But, yeah, I think preserving your youth shouldn't override the development of your children.
01:42:36.460
And this is why I feel that a woman, if she's not happy, she...
01:42:38.400
Why do you think your happiness overrides the development of the kids?
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I think that's a big problem why we have the issues that we have in society nowadays.
01:42:51.000
You know, because if you're not happy with yourself, then you're not going to make your surroundings happy.
01:42:57.600
Why be in a miserable relationship of 40 years long just to keep the children happy together and be raised with an image that is not reality?
01:43:06.260
I'm saying at least let the kids get to college.
01:43:12.040
I'm saying, like, at least let the kid get to college and become an adult.
01:43:21.400
I mean, she's still married to this day, but she believes in marriage.
01:43:26.840
Sometimes, you know, people, you know, that are married for a long term with a certain amount of children,
01:43:35.500
I should have left your father or X, Y reasons.
01:43:38.620
And I feel that for those factors, it's unhealthy to stay in a relationship just to raise your children.
01:43:49.340
I think the kids' happiness and their healthiness overrides your happiness.
01:43:54.480
Therefore, I think if you decide to get married and have kids, you should grind it out with that man and have the kid.
01:44:20.420
Women should never leave their marriage for their happiness.
01:44:25.120
Women should never leave their marriage for their happiness.
01:44:31.260
Um, well, when you get in that marriage, the whole point of a marriage is a bond between
01:44:36.860
As that time progressed, certain factors ruin that marriage.
01:44:41.880
And certain, your closeness, your comfortability with one another, who you are.
01:44:48.860
Sometimes people just can't stay with one another for a long time.
01:44:52.500
Sometimes they can't stand each other as time progressed.
01:44:56.980
So, and that means both of you guys aren't happy.
01:45:00.700
And sometimes the woman chooses to leave that relationship, and sometimes the man chooses
01:45:20.340
It's 80% of the time women leave their marriage and initiate the divorce.
01:45:32.620
For both parties, not all the time women are...
01:45:40.800
Women are the ones that are dissatisfied in a relationship.
01:45:44.140
Sometimes men are the ones that are dissatisfied in a relationship.
01:45:52.920
You can give the example, but understand that the example you're going to give is a minority.
01:45:59.320
Like, for example, my parents, they met each other in Miami.
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Abusive relationships, certain females have to leave.
01:46:46.020
So many movies where the woman has to leave the fucking relationship.
01:46:56.080
When women say, I'm in an abusive relationship, a lot of the times, we've basically taken this
01:47:07.580
Whether it's verbally, physically, emotionally, are they supposed to...
01:47:15.040
So, like, if a husband tells his wife, make me a sandwich, that can be construed as abuse
01:47:20.120
If a man puts standards on a woman, that can be considered abuse nowadays.
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And it gives women, like, the ability to kind of just, like, not take accountability for
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When you go to domestic disputes, and the woman is basically saying, hey, my husband
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Is she alleging that she's going through abuse?
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She can have all the outside physical appearance of showing that she's been beat up and been
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So number one, when it comes to domestic violence, if there's one aggressor that beats on the
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other, most of the time, interesting fact, it's the woman beating on the man.
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When it comes to men, when it comes to domestic violence, when there's one aggressor, most of
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Most domestic violence situations end up where they both attack each other.
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But when it's one way, it's from woman to attack a man.
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That's the whole point of the podcast, Fresh Fit.
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You're a fit man, and you may go after petite...
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But you might go after well-put-together women, right?
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So if you go after well-put-together women, you know, you Trump...
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But you're saying it has to do with physical appearance.
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They don't want another big woman right by their side.
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What does this have to do with domestic violence and abuse?
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Because in domestic violence, big men can be over small women.
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But just because they can't doesn't mean they do.
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No man is going to sit here and try to fight no female who is as masculine as her or he's
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Statistically shown, because you like statistics, men go after females who are more feminine,
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They don't go after the females who are BBW and big, who can fight them off, who can...
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They go after females who they can fight continuously.
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I'm telling you that the excuse of abuse, women use that all the time to justify ending
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But what I'm saying is a lot of times this abuse is valid criticism.
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It's her maybe not adhering to what she's supposed to do.
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And women all the time use abuse for valid criticism.
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I've seen women call it emotional abuse for her husband, critiquing her or telling her,
01:50:36.580
So women use it as a fail safe because they know that they're always going to get the
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benefit of the doubt and they're always going to get the benefit.
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And this has kind of created this environment where we believe all women.
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No, but I'm saying in the abuse sense of it, do you only feel like abuse is only subject
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to physical because, in my opinion, verbal, emotional abuse, you can be called stupid.
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Is that how you talk to women to be able to move forward in a relationship?
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You got to understand that abuse can be interpreted as subjective.
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If I tell one woman, you're stupid, she might say, I need to go read a book.
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I am stupid and take it as constructive criticism.
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Another woman will say, that's abuse, even though I am a fucking retard.
01:51:36.840
So the problem with abuse, this nebulous term that women like to throw around when they're
01:51:40.700
in a relationship with a guy, is they can weaponize it, right?
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Because women, unfortunately, don't like to take accountability because the state does it
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They get all this financial situation where they can go ahead and get half the money,
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So there's an incentive for women to say, I am abused.
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And the problem with abuse is it's a subjective term and it's nebulous.
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No one really knows the definition of abuse nowadays.
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So though there are situations where it's valid, I would argue a lot of the times it's used
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as a placeholder term to justify divorcing, ending relationships, and it's because of
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But the reality is they have a bunch of incentives to leave.
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But truthfully, if anything, what about, think about celebrities.
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Think about celebrities who are based off, you know, celebrities who make money, music
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artists, who get with lesser men who don't make as much money as them.
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But at the end of the day, does she, is she the one who initiates the divorce or is it
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Because is he staying around for the money or is he really not happy in the situation?
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Women initiate the divorce, even in that situation you presented.
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You really think she's going to break up with a man or she's going to, you think majority
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of celebrity relationships, she leaves the man?
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It's a good one to me how you bring up points that actually hurt your argument.
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I try to bring up valid examples and valid points to actually help my argument.
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But anytime I'm actually trying to present and trying to give an example or actually trying
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to bring a real life situation, you always try to subject it to make it lean over
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lesser to more of a man standpoint or men need this or men need that.
01:53:43.680
But at the end of the day, if men don't have that nourishment of women in their life, what
01:53:52.660
I said women shouldn't initiate divorce for their happiness.
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In my opinion, you said women shouldn't initiate divorce for their happiness.
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But at the end of the day, men can choose to not be interested in a woman and want to
01:54:12.100
So what's the point of the whole show Cheaters?
01:54:17.580
But that's a real life television show of women finding their men, cheating on their
01:54:40.380
Women shouldn't end their marriages for their happiness.
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I would disagree because I guess if a woman isn't happy, that bleeds into other parts of
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her relationship and maybe if she's not happy, she's just affecting the children's quality
01:55:00.020
And for that reason, I feel like if she's affecting all of those things and that she should be able
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Do women have high emotional intelligence in your opinion?
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Do they have higher emotional intelligence than men in your opinion?
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In my opinion, I feel like it's subjective to what kind of woman we're talking about.
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Just being able to hang up on emotional things like sadness, happiness, anger.
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Would it be fair to say being able to control your emotions too, I guess?
01:55:50.240
So why does the mom control her emotions for her kids?
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Because they're in the same proximity and they live a daily life together.
01:55:59.360
If women have such high emotional intelligence and they're a mom, wouldn't be hoover to use
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that emotional intelligence to control her emotions?
01:56:08.180
You know, put on a happy face for a kid for a couple of years, allow them to grow and
01:56:14.160
Sure, but what if she's built up so much resentment that she can no longer do that and
01:56:18.140
it's affecting everybody and like mental health is a real struggle.
01:56:28.560
Do they have the ability to self-determine their future agency?
01:56:40.560
So can't they behave like an adult and kind of contain themselves and do what's needed
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And most women can, but there's women out there.
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Well, we can see by the high divorce rates, they can't.
01:56:57.560
A lot of women end marriages because they're not happy.
01:57:06.120
Well, irreconceivable differences or whatever, which basically means I'm not happy.
01:57:10.360
So wait, what was the point you were trying to make?
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If they're affecting everybody's quality of life, I really, I'm tired.
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Or, uh, it's, mine, it's, uh, one o'clock, so do you want to...
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Maybe we'll do some JQ a little bit over there.
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Come on over to, uh, fresh and fit, niggas, on Rumble.
01:57:53.660
We're going to move everybody over to Rumble, and then you can keep the OSS up.
01:57:58.820
But yeah, Rumble and, uh, Castle Club and OSS only.
01:58:05.960
Um, but we're going to get off of YouTube altogether, because we already know who runs YouTube.