The Debrief With MyronGainesX - BREAKING： Iran & United States Trade Strikes! Ft. Nick Fuentes

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00:18:00 all right what's up guys welcome welcome welcome i'm back with nick man um so

00:18:07 he's got the thing with nick and finch podcast i like that uh yeah so um obviously lots of news

00:18:14 going on today uh it looks like we're back in the war in the middle east um i mean what are

00:18:21 your thoughts on this in general man it's insane yeah it's so predictable i remember when they did

00:18:25 the mou we talked about it even yesterday everybody was celebrating saying oh the war's

00:18:30 over everything's back to normal and i remember the same night saying it's not over by a long shot

00:18:34 you know i mean we hadn't seen it when they first put it out but it's like unless the u.s and iran

00:18:40 have just completely changed like fundamentally how the state is constituted then you're still

00:18:45 not going to get a deal and so it's blowing up literally on on every single front yeah every one

00:18:50 of the issues is now blown up no pun intended the strait of hormuz lebanon and nuclear file 0.98

00:18:56 all are over now so you know the first ceasefire was bullshit this was bullshit and now it's we're 0.92

00:19:02 entering just like phase two of what we were in before which is technically a ceasefire but we're 0.96

00:19:07 still in a state of war yeah and you know the crazy part is is like uh you know this all started 0.98

00:19:11 to unravel um i hate to blame israel but like it's it really is like they were the first ones 0.92

00:19:17 So, like, once that started unraveling, that's what, you know, opened the door for them to start bombing each other again. 0.98

00:19:22 And then now we're here where we are.

00:19:24 And, you know, it's kind of interesting because I think, I know you had mentioned this.

00:19:28 I had mentioned it.

00:19:29 Like, it's almost as if, like, because people say all the time, well, why is Iran so dead set on making sure that this conflict in Lebanon ends, right? 0.60

00:19:38 Like, why not just focus on Iran and everything else like that?

00:19:41 But I think there's two reasons. 0.96

00:19:42 One, obviously, is because Hezbollah is their most capable fighting force, right?

00:19:47 They're the ones that have the most experience fighting the IDF on the ground, right? 0.95

00:19:51 And they've been able to repel them a couple of times. 0.95

00:19:52 And then number two, and I heard you say this, I was like, that's actually very true. 0.70

00:19:56 It almost forces a wedge between the United States and Israel to kind of expose, honestly, how little power we have. 0.85

00:20:05 What are your general thoughts on that? 0.79

00:20:06 Because when you made that mention, I was like, this is actually really good because it shows a huge weakness that we have in foreign policy that we really can't reel these guys in. 0.82

00:20:15 As much as Trump might have this tough rhetoric of like, listen to me and all this other shit. 0.84

00:20:19 It's not true. Right. Well, there's a few things I would say that, you know, because the question is, why would Iran insist upon ceasefire in Lebanon as a condition for the ceasefire? 0.98

00:20:30 And you could say first that, like you said, Hezbollah is a very powerful.

00:20:33 It's really a part of their strategic deterrence against Israel. 0.60

00:20:37 There's three things Iran uses to deter Israeli aggression, and that's the nuclear hedge. 0.78

00:20:42 It's a ballistic missiles and it's a proxies because all of those function as a second strike. 0.63

00:20:48 If Israel strikes Iran such that the regime is decapitated or decimates Iran, there's three ways that Iran could then retaliate to ensure that Israel would never do a first strike. 0.65

00:20:58 And that's that Iran might then nuke them to that Iran would send thousands of ballistic missiles, overwhelm air defenses and destroy Israel with the conventional arsenal. 0.82

00:21:08 And then the third is even if Iran was completely decimated, no missiles, no nukes, then Hezbollah could always finish the job. 0.83

00:21:14 They could launch their 150,000 rockets. 0.94

00:21:17 Now it's a much smaller arsenal, but they'd launch them all at once.

00:21:20 Israel would be decimated that way, too.

00:21:22 So it's all part of their arsenal. 0.97

00:21:23 So you could say, one, Iran really needs Hezbollah to be protected as a check on Israel. 0.88

00:21:28 Two, you could say, and I think this is interesting also, does Iran want a ceasefire? 0.65

00:21:34 I don't even think Iran needs or wants a ceasefire.

00:21:36 They actually it's in their interest for the war to go on longer because the longer that the war goes on, it is an economic catastrophe for the United States.

00:21:44 And the more painful economically it is for the U.S., it does two things.

00:21:49 One, it prevents the U.S. from continuing the war and more likely that they'll want to withdraw.

00:21:54 But two, if you impose a lot of pain in this conflict, it deters a future conflict, because especially for the U.S. consumer and voter and but also for the whole world,

00:22:04 If the U.S. ever feels like invading Israel or, excuse me, invading Iran ever again, everyone is going to say, oh, and we're going to cause another global depression like the last time. So it benefits Iran actually for this to really hurt the United States. And that's how they strategically defeat us, the economics. 0.69

00:22:21 But like you said, I think there's maybe another there's maybe a more subtle play, which is if you condition the ceasefire or rather if you condition the opening of the strait on a ceasefire in Lebanon, you pit those two interests against each other because they're these are imperatives. 0.91

00:22:37 It's imperative for Israel's grand strategy, their entire their entire playbook to occupy Lebanon. 0.74

00:22:43 They can't not do it. It's imperative for them. 0.52

00:22:46 It is imperative for the United States to open up the straight. Can't not do it because if we don't have the straight, then we don't have oil. We don't have oil. You don't have an economy. You don't have an economy. You don't have cheap lending. The whole AI house of cards collapses. People don't even realize how much closing the straight affects our economy because our entire economy is being driven now by AI.

00:23:07 It's those AI companies and the companies that fund AI or furnish AI with the compute, with the chips.

00:23:14 That's all of our economic growth.

00:23:16 It's all being driven by the AI companies, the chip companies, and companies like Google and Microsoft.

00:23:22 That's driving all of it.

00:23:23 They're driving the real estate.

00:23:25 There's not even any commercial building anymore.

00:23:27 It's all data centers.

00:23:29 And AI is run on cheap electricity.

00:23:32 You need cheap energy to have cheap electricity so that it's economical to have all this AI.

00:23:38 So if you don't have cheap electricity, it's no longer economical or profitable to build the data centers.

00:23:42 So they've actually stopped 50% of all currently in progress and planned data centers because the cost of energy is going up.

00:23:49 So it acutely affects the source of our economic growth, because AI is all about electricity.

00:23:56 It's all just getting as much energy as possible, and that's exactly what we're in is an energy shortage.

00:24:00 But then also, you also realize that these AI companies, they're all financed by borrowing.

00:24:06 They're borrowing tons of money to finance the data centers on this hope that AI is going to transform the economy fundamentally.

00:24:13 Well, if the money is no longer cheap to borrow, then all these companies go down.

00:24:18 That's why Trump wants to slash rates so badly.

00:24:20 Exactly, because there's no profits.

00:24:21 You know, the AI companies, ChatGPT, Claude, Google, like they don't make money.

00:24:26 They don't make enough money to make up for all these investments.

00:24:29 So what's going to happen is when the cost of energy goes up, it causes inflation everywhere else. When inflation goes up, they need to raise rates to slow down and cool off the economy. You raise interest rates, you make borrowing more expensive. Now it's impossible for this speculative AI bubble to keep growing.

00:24:45 So it's not it's not even a conventional energy shock that leads to a recession, which is what always happens in 73 in the 90s in 2008.

00:24:55 Energy shock leads to a contraction. This is really hitting us where it hurts, which is a source of all the GDP growth.

00:25:01 It's the AI boom in particular, which is all based on speculation and again, getting as much energy as possible.

00:25:08 So point being, we have to open up the strait. We need the energy.

00:25:12 And so by pitting these two imperatives against each other, it breaks up the coalition because people don't realize it's not the US.

00:25:19 I think they strategically did it, honestly. 0.89

00:25:20 I think Iran was like, you know what? 0.94

00:25:23 Let's prove to the world that the United States cannot control Israel. 0.84

00:25:25 And these guys are a rogue state. 0.82

00:25:27 I think that's I think it's less that like red pilling the world and more causing just a breakdown in the solidarity because it is a coalition war. 0.79

00:25:36 People don't realize it's not the US versus Iran. 0.80

00:25:39 It's really a four way thing. 0.64

00:25:42 It's the U.S., Israel, and the GCC.

00:25:44 And even within the GCC, there's tension between Qatar and the rest of them, between the UAE and Saudi, especially lately.

00:25:51 So it's this huge coalition going against Iran that Iran now wants to break apart and sow division.

00:25:56 And this is where Iran is like cutting side deals with Qatar.

00:25:59 They told Qatar, if you don't help the United States carry out strikes and moreover, if you stop producing LNG, we won't hit you anymore.

00:26:08 Because if we don't hit you, then you don't have to rebuild your infrastructure.

00:26:12 And if you don't produce LNG, it puts more pressure on the United States.

00:26:16 I don't think people understand how badly Qatar got hit.

00:26:19 I think in March, Iran bombed LNG, which for those that don't know, that's 20% of the world's gas right there.

00:26:26 And that was built up to kind of circumvent Russia's influence on gas.

00:26:30 So the fact that they destroyed that gas inadvertently forced everybody to go back to Putin and say,

00:26:35 oh, can we get the cheap gas again from Russia?

00:26:37 and he was able to, you know, bring the prices up

00:26:39 and now they're making money hand over fist,

00:26:41 especially with the oil, too.

00:26:42 So, like, and they said that that's going to be out of commission

00:26:44 if we stop the war now for at least a year.

00:26:46 Right.

00:26:47 Even if we stopped it.

00:26:48 Exactly.

00:26:49 So, you know, Iran is breaking apart that coalition 0.74

00:26:52 and what's more, Israel is really the one that's out for regime change. 0.88

00:26:56 You know, there's a very, and I always say this on my show,

00:26:58 you need to understand the fundamental strategic interest

00:27:02 that is driving every country involved

00:27:04 because for the U.S. and Israel, it's similar but not identical.

00:27:07 Israel is pursuing regime change. That's what they want in particular. That's the ultimate goal is they don't want a revolutionary Islamist Shiite 12 or theocracy running Iran. That's got to go. They don't want normalization. They don't want peace. They want the regime out. The U.S. does not care. They would prefer it's a different regime, but they're ambivalent. What they really care about is nonproliferation of nuclear weapons.

00:27:30 So if we could get no nukes or no enrichment, but keep the Iranian regime, we'd take that deal. 0.85

00:27:36 And so what Iran is doing is they're driving a wedge between the U.S. and Israel on the conflict, Lebanon versus the strait, but also even on that nuclear issue. 0.93

00:27:45 And if they can divide up the U.S. and Israel, Israel can't do regime change alone. 0.79

00:27:50 They need the United States. 0.82

00:27:51 So it's actually imperative for Iran to deprive Israel of their ally, the United States, to carry out their goal, which is the regime change. 0.78

00:27:59 So I think that's maybe like a subtle 5D chess thing that Iran is doing, because realistically, if Iran really needed the war to end, would they insist upon a ceasefire in Lebanon? 0.91

00:28:10 I mean, maybe not necessarily, but I think they're throwing that out there because then it puts the U.S. in the position where to get, you know, Iran, we have a deal with them. 0.61

00:28:18 Now we need to put pressure on Israel to uphold the deal. 0.81

00:28:21 So I think that might be intentional.

00:28:23 And I agree with you on that because, you know, these guys have been sanctioned for, what, 50 years?

00:28:27 Like to them, it's like, OK, we've already been sanctioned and you made a great, great

00:28:32 point earlier for them.

00:28:33 It's like they never want to get hit again.

00:28:35 Right.

00:28:35 Obviously, the 12 day war was not fun for them.

00:28:37 They barely evaded, you know, almost a decapitation strike.

00:28:40 Then they got hit again in February.

00:28:41 So it's like I think at this point they're just tired of getting being able to get struck. 0.98

00:28:45 So they want to completely destroy the United States and Israel's ability to ever hit them 0.91

00:28:48 again. 0.92

00:28:49 I think that's why they're like, we'll drag this thing on.

00:28:51 We don't care.

00:28:51 And I also do think that they're sensitive to the midterms.

00:28:54 I think they know that Trump doesn't have as much time as he's letting on, you know, politically.

00:28:59 And I think from what, like, me and you were discussing yesterday, like, these midterms might actually be the first time that someone's actually removed.

00:29:06 Right.

00:29:07 You know, I think, who are the president?

00:29:08 Bill Clinton, Nixon resigned, Nixon knew he was going to be cooked.

00:29:13 Trump, and then I'm trying to think, was any other president impeached?

00:29:15 Andrew Johnson was impeached and removed, and Nixon resigned.

00:29:19 And Trump was impeached, Clinton was impeached, but Clinton was removed from office.

00:29:23 Okay.

00:29:25 But did he get back?

00:29:26 But he finished his term, so he actually did?

00:29:28 He got impeached, so he just got indicted.

00:29:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:29:30 But he didn't get convicted.

00:29:31 For the false statements.

00:29:32 Right, right. 1.00

00:29:33 I did not have sex with that woman. 0.99

00:29:37 Yeah, dude, that's crazy. 0.93

00:29:38 Or no, Andrew Johnson was removed from office, I don't believe.

00:29:40 He was impeached, though.

00:29:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:29:43 And either way, it's like a very rare thing for it to happen.

00:29:46 Because it requires an enormous amount of votes.

00:29:48 It's like, what, you've got to have two-thirds of the Senate votes to get you out of here?

00:29:50 Yeah, majority in the House, two-thirds in the Senate.

00:29:52 Which is a lot, you know?

00:29:53 to get you out of there.

00:29:54 And I think Donald Trump is probably going to be probably the most egregious offender

00:29:59 of them all.

00:30:00 He might be the first.

00:30:01 Yeah, he might be the first to actually get it, man.

00:30:03 So I was like, like, because in my mind, I'm just thinking of like how the Democrats are

00:30:06 going to attack him.

00:30:07 And they're just like the kinetic strikes with, with, with, with Hexeth, the, the Iran

00:30:11 war, the ice raids, the money, right?

00:30:14 You talked about this extensively yesterday where, you know, wasn't Lutnik's sons like 0.94

00:30:20 doing some bullshit with Futures or whatever, with the tariffs and everything? 0.91

00:30:25 Yeah, with the tariffs. 0.97

00:30:26 The tariffs, yeah, because they did some deal where if the tariffs were refunded,

00:30:32 that they were going to profit from that financially or something like that.

00:30:35 And that's exactly what happened is the Supreme Court overturned the emergency tariffs,

00:30:40 and now they've got to be refunded.

00:30:41 And I think there's some financial interest then that Howard Lutnick gets because of that.

00:30:45 I don't remember all the details, but the biggest thing is in DHS,

00:30:48 where Christy Noem allegedly is dating Corey Lewandowski.

00:30:52 And there was some kind of thing where they're getting favorable contracts

00:30:56 through DHS for people that they know is kind of the basic.

00:31:00 That's the gist of it.

00:31:01 The Wall Street Journal was on to them.

00:31:03 They did a big hit piece about it.

00:31:04 And I'd even heard about that because I have some friends in DHS,

00:31:07 and they would tell me it's just like egregious what's going on.

00:31:10 And it's not just there.

00:31:11 It's all over the place.

00:31:12 It's the GIA, bro.

00:31:13 The DOJ.

00:31:14 The Department of Justice.

00:31:16 Oh, yeah.

00:31:16 The GIA.

00:31:17 The Great Barrett Intelligence Agency.

00:31:17 In the DOJ, they say it's this Russian billionaire named Epstein.

00:31:23 Okay.

00:31:23 Not Epstein, but Epstein, a Russian billionaire.

00:31:26 They say he runs the DOJ.

00:31:28 This is very – no one knows this, by the way.

00:31:30 Okay.

00:31:30 But I was told by certain sources that that's like the big – that's like another big scandal waiting to happen.

00:31:37 Boris Epstein, Russian billionaire, has huge influence in the DOJ.

00:31:40 They say he basically runs it.

00:31:42 Interesting, interesting.

00:31:43 Yeah, so this kind of stuff is going on everywhere, and I think that –

00:31:47 Because I remember, for those of you guys that remember when we did the Club of Cost, we were talking about this in the party bus, right?

00:31:54 Besides us, you know, playing some choice music.

00:31:57 I remember you talking about this like, yeah, they're stealing.

00:31:59 Like, the administration is doing a bunch of BS behind the scenes.

00:32:02 And then, you know, obviously this was before Christine Noem resigned.

00:32:05 I think this was before Pambani resigned.

00:32:07 I think, had Bongino left at that point?

00:32:10 No, Bongino didn't leave either yet.

00:32:11 No, he was still there.

00:32:12 He was still there, too.

00:32:13 So, like, there's just so many, like, and you just look at all the people, right?

00:32:17 that are that are there and i think uh i think bongino kind of saw the writing on the wall and

00:32:21 he said was like i gotta get out of here dude he did there were leaks yeah he because he was

00:32:25 complaining and basically saying like i lost everything because i was making millions of

00:32:29 dollars he had a podcast like you know he had a career he gave it all up to be in the fbi and he

00:32:33 goes we can't even do anything yeah you know and and i can understand me just putting on like my

00:32:38 former agent hat on like as a deputy director you're kind of powerless dude you can't really

00:32:43 you're the number two guy so it's like it's really cash and pam making all the real decisions right

00:32:49 and um and then obviously the epstein file thing was like really bad because like both cash and

00:32:55 bongino were talking about this extensively before um before getting on so for like them to have the

00:33:02 epstein debacle it was like oh and then obviously he's gonna take a credibility hit because it's

00:33:06 like well you got to go back to broadcasting after this what are you gonna do um and then like these

00:33:10 guys aren't making that much dude you're you're you know you're a director you're probably making

00:33:15 uh somewhere between 170 to 200 some thousand which you know that's great money for sure but

00:33:20 like when you're making that much money a month right it's like something like a bongino that's

00:33:25 like what the hell am i doing here right right and obviously i think his wife was still running

00:33:28 the show but she's not gonna be able to pull in the same numbers and everything else like that so

00:33:30 like from for him from his perspective he's like i gotta get out of here and then i think he also

00:33:35 saw the writing on the wall with all the other crap that was going on more than likely so he was

00:33:39 like i gotta get out because i found it crazy how like he only left after a year um but then like

00:33:43 when i started thinking about it like yeah you don't really have any rope you can't do anything

00:33:46 you're just you're the you know deputy cash is the one making decisions and even he's not really

00:33:51 the boss because pam bondi is and then the other thing about the epstein files why like it kind of

00:33:55 killed them was and i was saying this forever the fbi only has a segment of the files like epstein

00:34:03 had a criminal case that was run by the fbi but he also we know we know he was like an intel asset

00:34:08 for a foreign country.

00:34:11 So you know the CIA is going to have a file.

00:34:13 The DEIA is going to have a file.

00:34:16 NSA, all these different intelligence components

00:34:17 are going to have a file on Epstein.

00:34:19 Well, Pambani has no power over these guys.

00:34:21 And Cash doesn't have any power over these guys.

00:34:23 So even if they were to be transparent,

00:34:26 and here's everything we got at DOJ,

00:34:28 the other intel agents could say,

00:34:30 well, we don't want to share.

00:34:30 And then boom, they take the hit

00:34:31 because most Americans don't know

00:34:33 that the government is extremely bureaucratic

00:34:37 can compartmentalize where it's like one agency might release everything but another one might

00:34:40 say no we're not gonna right or or or um the fbi might have information from the cia but they can't

00:34:46 put it out publicly because it's not their info and they have to get like a third agency rule like

00:34:49 oh can i you know declassify this no you can't it's ours so it's like and again i'm just like

00:34:54 giving different scenarios here but i could see why it was so difficult and there's like um like 0.79

00:34:58 for paying for cash and then obviously bongino and he's like i gotta get the fuck out of here

00:35:02 and then you add in all the other crap i mean you know because when you said that back in january 0.99

00:35:07 That really had me thinking, like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:35:09 And then right after, bam, Bongino, gone. 1.00

00:35:11 Cash Patel, they're talking about firing him.

00:35:14 Pam Bonney, gone.

00:35:15 Kristi Noem, gone.

00:35:16 Who else?

00:35:16 Tulsi Gabbard.

00:35:17 Tulsi Gabbard, gone.

00:35:18 Joe Kent.

00:35:19 Mike Walts was already gone, right, with the signal gate, I think.

00:35:22 He's still there, though, as the UN ambassador.

00:35:24 Yeah, yeah.

00:35:24 He'll never leave.

00:35:25 Yeah, right?

00:35:26 It's so crazy. 1.00

00:35:27 Yeah, you go from national security advisement to fucking, like, you're the UN bitch now. 1.00

00:35:30 Yeah. 1.00

00:35:31 It's insane, yeah.

00:35:32 That guy will never, ever, ever get fired.

00:35:34 But Tulsi Gabbard, yeah, she's got to go, you know.

00:35:36 And even Pam Bondi, you know, it's funny. I didn't like Pam Bondi. She comes from Florida.

00:35:41 Very incompetent, dude. I was shocked they made her attorney general is insane. 1.00

00:35:45 Yeah, well, you know why that is. Susie Wiles brought all these people in. 1.00

00:35:48 She's the chief of staff. She's from Florida. She's from Ballard.

00:35:51 So she brought in Rubio, Waltz, Bondi. These are all Florida creatures.

00:35:55 But the thing even about Pam Bondi, she wasn't even actually the worst because a lot of the really MAGA people in DOJ, 0.98

00:36:03 they said bondi would actually let the more trump loyal people do these indictments they were working

00:36:08 on some big indictments and when todd blanche got in they shut it all down like blanche is actually 0.99

00:36:13 worse than bond as bad as bondi is and she's terrible and she fucking sucks blanche is even 0.99

00:36:19 worse but this is just like a story he came in and shut down watched it yeah he shut down the 0.99

00:36:24 indictments against the enemies or yeah against some of the democrat foes yeah well why do you

00:36:28 Why do you shut it? I would think he's not he's not like a big MAGA guy.

00:36:31 Pam Bondi was letting because he was letting it happen.

00:36:34 Yeah, because, you know, I knew people working in Trump admin number one.

00:36:38 And what they would say about how the government works in the White House and the admin is basically it comes down to if two low, very low level bureaucrats disagree, it gets kicked up.

00:36:49 If those middle level bureaucrats disagree, it gets kicked up and it keeps getting kicked up until it gets like cabinet level.

00:36:55 And then it goes up to the president.

00:36:57 And so it's really about these people that are in kind of like the middle and lower positions. You know, are they going to be able to have the discretion to do what they need to do? That's really what it comes down to in a lot of these situations. And so someone like Pam Bondi, she was actually doing her job in a sense that she was letting the underlings who are MAGA work on the indictments.

00:37:16 And there's actually some good stuff coming down the pike. 0.99

00:37:18 But then she gets kicked out. 0.95

00:37:20 She was a little bit more laissez-faire. 0.97

00:37:22 She wasn't intervening to shut these things down.

00:37:25 She wasn't as activist.

00:37:26 But now that Blanche is in, he's much more strict about what they're able to do.

00:37:30 And he doesn't believe really in that.

00:37:31 He doesn't believe in doing all the indictments.

00:37:33 So that's gotten a lot slower and basically shut down.

00:37:36 Like nothing new is coming with Blanche in charge.

00:37:38 You know what?

00:37:38 That makes perfect sense because you think about it.

00:37:41 Under Bondi, John Bolton got indicted.

00:37:46 Letitia James out of New York got indicted.

00:37:53 Comey got hit.

00:37:56 And then I think they indicted him.

00:37:59 It failed, then they recharged him.

00:38:00 And then Letitia, same thing.

00:38:02 Because I think the United States attorney out of Virginia or something like that wasn't confirmed properly.

00:38:09 And so they were like, oh, well, you know, this indictment is going to be gone.

00:38:12 So they're refiling it.

00:38:14 So, yeah, I mean, that makes sense.

00:38:16 So you're saying Blanche is like way more.

00:38:18 He's worse.

00:38:19 He's like, hey, let's not indict all these people, et cetera.

00:38:21 Let's not go after them.

00:38:22 Yeah, he's not letting them work on anything else.

00:38:24 Is he scared of the blowback?

00:38:24 Is he scared of potential retaliation when they're out of there?

00:38:27 He just doesn't support it from a policy point of view.

00:38:29 He's not in favor of going after these people.

00:38:31 Yeah.

00:38:32 So Bondi was letting him go after it, and he shut the whole thing down.

00:38:35 He was in the defense attorney before, wasn't he?

00:38:37 He was in the government.

00:38:38 I don't know his background.

00:38:39 I think he was.

00:38:41 And Brett, can you double check for me real quick?

00:38:43 I think he was a part of Trump's legal team when he was dealing with the document case out of New York when they indicted him the first time.

00:38:50 I think it was on his legal team.

00:38:52 Who was it?

00:38:52 Todd Blanche.

00:38:53 Todd Blanche.

00:38:54 But yeah, so, no, because it really got me to thinking. 0.97

00:38:57 I was like, damn, all these people are going out. 0.50

00:38:58 So yeah, Cash had the issues that he had, like drinking alcohol too much, partying, taking a jet around, his girlfriend getting a security detail, the Epstein files, Pambani, same thing. 0.98

00:39:12 And, you know, Bongino being the number two guy, he was like,

00:39:14 I got to get the fuck up out of here.

00:39:16 Hexah with the kinetic strikes. 0.90

00:39:18 I'm trying to think here of Rubio, if they would go after him for anything.

00:39:21 I can't think of it.

00:39:22 No, you know what's funny?

00:39:23 Rubio, you know, I shouldn't even say this.

00:39:26 I'm just, like, thinking of how they're going to, like, go after them.

00:39:28 Well, but Rubio's people are the most competent.

00:39:31 Yeah.

00:39:31 And listen, listen.

00:39:32 You're right.

00:39:32 I do not support Rubio at all.

00:39:34 Not even slightly.

00:39:35 I'm not saying, but I'm saying, like, this is not me trying to, like,

00:39:39 say anything to promote him.

00:39:40 Like, if he's the nominee, I would vote Democrat.

00:39:43 I would consider that, you know, because he's that bad.

00:39:45 However, what is funny about Rubio, so he's Secretary of State.

00:39:49 State Department is on lock.

00:39:50 Those are the most competent people.

00:39:52 And DHS is probably the worst. 1.00

00:39:54 That's, like, the most R guys, like, the most, like, based people are probably in DHS. 1.00

00:39:59 Like, they're maybe the most aligned. 0.99

00:40:01 And State Department, they got that shit on lock. 0.99

00:40:04 Like, they are the most competent. 1.00

00:40:05 And they run it like a tight ship.

00:40:07 Rubio surprisingly

00:40:08 he's a very formidable opponent

00:40:11 because he knows what he's doing. He's a refined politician

00:40:13 I've always said it like

00:40:14 I don't think there's any shame in admitting this

00:40:16 he's an extremely refined and good politician

00:40:18 we don't support that

00:40:20 we don't like his policies or whatever he's owned by the Jays

00:40:23 and everything else but I think we can both say 0.91

00:40:25 so is Netanyahu is a refined

00:40:27 politician you know because he's

00:40:29 I think the one thing that Netanyahu can do

00:40:31 is he can blend

00:40:32 every time I watch his speeches I'm like

00:40:35 this guy all this guy does is like 0.99

00:40:37 make israel's problems america's problems you know yeah we kill these terrorists today blah blah 0.56

00:40:40 oh by the way they were trying to target you guys too like it's like he's able to always like

00:40:45 bring in israeli issues and somehow make them american issues and show either like what we're

00:40:49 doing here benefits you guys as well and i think that's something that really only he's been able

00:40:53 to do like i don't think any other israeli prime minister has been able to like you know use israel

00:40:58 problems and or justify u.s um you know aid so much as to like we're taking care of the problem

00:41:03 for you guys we're on the front lines but like but yeah i agree with you that like um above them

00:41:07 all rubio is for sure the the the most refined politician doesn't mean he's good i mean it's

00:41:12 like staff yeah like people in admins say that state department like they're the only ones that

00:41:16 know what they're doing they're competent and uh like you know they're ideologically aligned with

00:41:20 rubio vance too they say that vance's people are very competent and effective um but these other 0.98

00:41:26 people at doj and dhs and these other departments i mean they don't know what the fuck they're doing 0.96

00:41:30 And I'm like, that's so typical. I told people would be like this because at the end of the day, Trump is just incompetent. 1.00

00:41:36 Yeah. You know what? So many people ascribe to malice. You could easily ascribe it to incompetence. 0.98

00:41:40 They just don't know what they're doing. It's so classic because, you know, Trump, the first term, everybody said, well, he couldn't get his agenda through because the personnel were terrible.

00:41:51 That was that was the headline all the time. Swamp creatures with. Yes. This is all these different excuses.

00:41:56 It was bad advisors, bad personnel. They said, you know, because in 16, Trump had this Web site called great again dot org where they were soliciting people to volunteer to work in his administration from like everywhere, as opposed to these like swamp creature, you know, alumni from the different Republican campaigns or the Bush admin.

00:42:13 So they had this Web site called great again dot org where they said, send us your resume. You could come and work in the government, be part of the revolution.

00:42:20 They didn't use that at all.

00:42:21 And of course, you know, then they brought in like Jeb Bush alum, Rubio alum, Cruz alum, and those people all hated Trump.

00:42:28 We used to joke in D.C. back in those days, if you had worked for the Trump campaign, it made you less likely to get a job in the Trump White House.

00:42:36 They say, oh, you worked for the Trump campaign?

00:42:37 You're disqualified. 0.83

00:42:38 We don't want you.

00:42:39 Because the people that were running it were like establishment rhino types, you know? 0.99

00:42:43 And so that was the big excuse.

00:42:44 They said, well, why did Trump not pull us out of Syria?

00:42:46 Because the generals were lying.

00:42:48 You know, they wouldn't carry out the orders.

00:42:49 They would lie about the troop totals. And there was some truth to that. But in 24, they said, well, it'll be different this time because, you know, this time the posters are in control. Our guys are going to be in the admin. And it's like you actually have like based people in the administration. You have a lot of them like the personnel.

00:43:05 Anyone will tell you there's a lot of people in like National Security Council, which were good.

00:43:11 And there were people in the Pentagon that were good and people in DHS that were good.

00:43:14 But now Trump himself is holding back the personnel.

00:43:18 The personnel are more radical than him.

00:43:21 So the personnel, for example, in Homeland Security, they want to do mass deportations.

00:43:25 They want a wall. 0.96

00:43:26 They're fucking furious about what is happening. 0.99

00:43:29 Trump doesn't want to build the wall anymore. 0.99

00:43:31 Yeah, I have that.

00:43:32 I don't want to say how I know that, but it's Trump that doesn't he doesn't want to do it.

00:43:37 He says we don't need it anymore. We have, you know, the military there.

00:43:40 We have other means of securing the border. We don't need a wall.

00:43:43 Trump is holding them back. So, you know, before we would say the personnel and the advisors are holding.

00:43:50 We need to unleash Trump so he can be himself and do what he needs to do.

00:43:54 Now it's like the personnel is being held back by him.

00:43:57 his incompetence his lack of follow-through in some cases he's just betraying the core promises

00:44:04 of what we know we were all about in 2016 so and i said this in 24 and i knew it was going to happen

00:44:10 when he threw project 2025 under the bus remember them yes project 2025 at heritage

00:44:16 it was it was two things it was a white paper a policy a 93 page white paper where they said this

00:44:22 is what we're going to do in every department and agency how we're going to make america great again

00:44:26 And that's what got the headlines, because people said it's very radical.

00:44:29 The Democrats freaked out when they saw it.

00:44:31 Right.

00:44:31 Like, they were, are you, I remember vividly, do you support Project 2025?

00:44:35 That was, like, what everyone was asking during the 24th.

00:44:37 Yeah, people forget.

00:44:38 It was huge.

00:44:38 Big deal.

00:44:39 But then, in addition to that, it was also.

00:44:41 He denied it during a debate.

00:44:42 Do you support, I think, during one of his public debates or interviews, he denied it.

00:44:46 Like, I don't, you know, I don't know.

00:44:49 He said, I got nothing to do with that.

00:44:50 Yeah. 1.00

00:44:50 And, which, there's some truth to that.

00:44:52 But it was also a personnel database.

00:44:54 They put together a database of like, you know, very Trump loyal, ideologically America first people that they were going to use Schedule F, reclassify a bunch of federal workers, fire them, you know, because a lot of them have these protections.

00:45:09 You know, an incoming administration can only hire and fire about 5000 people.

00:45:14 If you reclassify a lot of the workers, you can fire like up to 50,000.

00:45:17 And so the idea was we're going to fire 50,000 people.

00:45:20 Some of them we're just not even going to replace.

00:45:22 But the ones that we do, we're going to replace them with guys that are vetted, guys that are loyal to Trump, loyal to the agenda.

00:45:28 And what Trump said in like January 23 and then into 24 is he said, no, Project 2025 has no control over that.

00:45:37 He said, I want them to work with America First Policy Institute, AFPI, which was that's like the official MAGA think tank.

00:45:45 It's run by Brooke Rollins, who's now the secretary of agriculture.

00:45:47 And they are the worst. Like they are the biggest rhinos of all time. America last like they are so establishment. It's not even funny. And Trump basically said Project 2025 either needs to defer completely to AFPI or they can have no influence. At the end of the day, he disavowed them like three or four times. They got totally pushed out. And that's when that's when I disavowed Trump, because at that point is about June 24. 0.91

00:46:13 I said it's very clear what direction this is going to go in, and it's going to be just like the first term.

00:46:18 A lot of bad personnel, not enough good personnel, but moreover, it's like Trump's judgment is compromised.

00:46:23 He's still incompetent, because really, I mean, there was no resistance this time.

00:46:27 You remember in 25, it's like the left was defeated.

00:46:30 They were eradicated.

00:46:31 They were so weak, no ability to resist, and we had the House, Senate, White House.

00:46:36 We had Doge.

00:46:37 We're moving so fast.

00:46:38 so much was possible and the only reason it was squandered is because they just were incompetent

00:46:43 that's why tariffs didn't happen that's why the border wall didn't happen that's why doge didn't

00:46:48 happen um you know just wrong people bad people and you know it's funny because like you get a lot

00:46:53 of heat for not voting right and saying hey i'm not going to vote etc people always forget i

00:46:59 vividly remember when you said i'm not going to vote unless trump can promise that we're not going

00:47:03 to go to war with iran that was like one of your number one things need mass deportations and no

00:47:07 war with iran those were your two things and it happened the war with iran and no mass deportation

00:47:13 so it's like you know people said that you didn't even vote nick yeah but it's like i remember when 0.67

00:47:17 you originally made the announcement no war with iran no fucking war with iran i'm gonna withhold

00:47:22 my vote and he fucking ended up doing it and like for me i was pissed off and i think the whole this 0.87

00:47:26 is what actually fractured the base made so many people say no this iran war is highly unpopular 0.98

00:47:30 even people that like uh that voted for him and supported him because like from my perspective i

00:47:36 voted mostly for foreign policy and then obviously for the immigration like because i was like i

00:47:41 agree with you what we were talking about yesterday donald trump is probably one of the only presidents

00:47:44 that can actually do deportations because everyone is terrified and i can say this from like my

00:47:49 background with like working with ice the thing that used to always mess us up when we did

00:47:53 deportations was interior enforcement because you got to deal with the sanctuary cities you got to

00:47:58 deal with the mayor you got to deal with the police department they don't want to help you out i vividly

00:48:01 remember so many times i'd go to austin texas we'd have restaurants for people austin pd we need you

00:48:05 to come on help they wouldn't come they wouldn't show up even if though it was a felony warrant

00:48:09 they're like wait it's immigration related now we're not helping you so it was a nightmare to

00:48:13 do like interior enforcement so when i saw trump actually putting ice into these cities and doing

00:48:17 deportation oh wow i gotta give this guy credit because like me from the inside knows how hard

00:48:22 it is to do interior enforcement you know enforcing at the border is nothing like this is why democrats

00:48:26 have more deportations because everyone comes in they catch them throw them back out easy to have

00:48:31 more deportations like oh well obama has more deportations than trump that doesn't count

00:48:35 buddies because they had to open open borders and then they want to come in but when i saw him

00:48:39 doing the interior stuff i was like this is good like i i supported what he was doing in 0.97

00:48:43 minneapolis like renee good and alex pretty i was like don't let this fucking scare you because 0.94

00:48:47 these are good shoots like you know look people lost their life horrible but do not commit a 0.95

00:48:52 felony and impede federal agents like what are you doing like you can't do that uh you know alex

00:48:56 pretty had a gun on him the other chick tried to run a guy over like you know obviously democrats

00:48:59 were putting an enormous amount of pressure but it kills me because i noticed that he kind of took

00:49:04 his foot off the gas with the mass deportations to open up political leeway for the iran war right

00:49:09 and i was like dude seriously like that's when i was like like you're you're dropping doing the

00:49:14 immigration the first president actually has the balls to go in do interior enforcement something

00:49:18 that i've never seen ever by any administration um you know using border patrol using eyes using 0.99

00:49:23 fbi agents like shit i've never seen before like using fbi agents to do immigration is nuts right 0.97

00:49:28 Because, like, they never want to do anything, those guys. 1.00

00:49:30 They're so fucking lazy, but that's a whole other conversation. 0.98

00:49:33 So when I saw that, I was like, great. 0.99

00:49:35 Like, we're actually going to get some interior enforcement.

00:49:36 Finally, they're going to stop these sanctuary cities, dude.

00:49:38 Because, like, I feel like I'm going through PTSD now.

00:49:42 Dude, I can't tell you how many times, Nick.

00:49:43 Like, I would literally be having, we'd be looking for somebody.

00:49:46 We'd ask the state locals to help, and they'd say no.

00:49:48 Yeah. 1.00

00:49:48 Because of fucking sanctuary rules. 1.00

00:49:49 It's like that in Chicago. 1.00

00:49:51 Insane, dude.

00:49:51 Insane.

00:49:52 Or we'd have, oh, the best. 0.97

00:49:54 Put a detainer on the guy.

00:49:55 You know he's going to be released on this day at this time. 0.98

00:49:57 They fucking let him out early on purpose 0.97

00:49:59 So that you can't get him 1.00

00:49:59 And the guy is like a murderer

00:50:01 Or the guy has like a long criminal history

00:50:03 They let him go because they don't want to be the ones to be like 0.93

00:50:05 Yeah we gave him the immigration after

00:50:06 They'll purposely let him out early or not tell you

00:50:08 After you put a detainer on him

00:50:10 And we couldn't do anything to them

00:50:12 So it's like it was absolutely insane that they wouldn't comply

00:50:15 And this is happening all across the country

00:50:17 So when Trump finally said you know what

00:50:18 We're going to go ahead we're going to do mass deportations

00:50:20 We're going to actually back ICE

00:50:21 We're going to let them go into these cities 0.99

00:50:23 We're going to tell the locals if you don't fucking comply 0.98

00:50:25 Remember Pam Bonney sued them 0.99

00:50:26 If you don't comply, you're going to get sued. 0.99

00:50:28 But then they completely bailed on it for the fucking Iran war. 0.99

00:50:30 Yeah, they just dropped it. 0.99

00:50:31 And it's sad because they put all the pieces in place to do it.

00:50:36 You had the big, beautiful bill, which allocated $80, $90 billion for border enforcement.

00:50:40 And it was supposed to be for a wall, for ICE agents, the infrastructure.

00:50:43 And they did it.

00:50:44 They hired 10,000 ICE agents.

00:50:46 They trained the existing ones.

00:50:47 Because I was told that the problem is ICE has not done interior enforcement for so long.

00:50:53 Yes.

00:50:54 That a lot of them aren't trained to do this.

00:50:56 Like they just don't have the skills. So they had to hire a bunch of them, train a bunch of them.

00:51:00 Then they bought all these warehouses to detain the immigrants because we don't have that either. 1.00

00:51:04 And they did that. You know, they bought all the warehouses. I saw. Yeah, they're trying to like sell them. 0.98

00:51:09 Now they're selling them. Now they're selling them. They didn't even use them.

00:51:12 It's like you could have done it. But and here's the best part is the left says Trump is Hitler.

00:51:18 But Hitler was a visionary, you know, Hitler. And it's not to like glaze Hitler or whatever.

00:51:23 But you recognize that Hitler was like a unique figure in the sense that he was compelled by destiny and a vision.

00:51:30 And he was an ideas man. 0.63

00:51:32 You know, he was called the man against time by some of the esoteric Hitlerists. 0.61

00:51:36 Like he's played this like cosmic role in history.

00:51:39 Trump, not that guy. 1.00

00:51:41 Like Trump is just dumb. 1.00

00:51:42 And I don't say that flippantly. 1.00

00:51:44 Like obviously he's like a smart guy.

00:51:46 You'd have to be smart to be president.

00:51:47 But he does not have that political talent.

00:51:50 He doesn't have that genius.

00:51:51 Because what you would have done in that situation is we're going to go into the sanctuary cities.

00:51:56 We're going to arrest and deport everybody.

00:51:59 Oh, our Antifa and left wing protesters interfering. 0.99

00:52:02 We're going to bring in the National Guard and crush them.

00:52:05 And it's like create the crisis, solve the crisis.

00:52:08 That's just like dictatorship 101. 0.89

00:52:10 That's your Caesar like figure.

00:52:12 Manufacture the crisis that creates a demand for Trump to take over everything.

00:52:17 and like think about like where the country would be if we just kept pushing in that direction like 0.98

00:52:22 Minneapolis okay these Somalians are stealing all the money the whole country's against this 0.79

00:52:27 send in homeland investigation send in DOJ DHS immigration customs and border patrol and if 0.99

00:52:34 these shithead Antifa are firebombing them and shooting them then bring in the National Guard 0.98

00:52:38 and crush those people put them in prison for 10 years like they did in Texas they did like a fire 0.99

00:52:43 bomb thing in texas they send this guy to a hundred years in prison for doing that it's like

00:52:48 and good like yeah because these these antifa people they are the enemy if you try to enforce

00:52:53 the laws they're going to become terrorists so put him in jail forever and and then a democrat

00:52:58 can't take him back out it's like and then if there's more protests and crush them too like

00:53:02 this is how you get a right-wing takeover of the country but trump doesn't have that gene

00:53:07 if it gets bad he goes oh we got to back off yeah oh if there's protests oh we got to back

00:53:12 Look out, Stephen, we've got to stop doing the deportations.

00:53:15 We're going to get killed in the midterms.

00:53:17 It's like the midterms.

00:53:18 You should even hold the midterms.

00:53:19 Cancel the midterms.

00:53:20 What they should have done, too, in the Senate, get rid of the filibuster. 0.90

00:53:25 Get rid of the filibuster.

00:53:26 Pass the SAVE Act.

00:53:28 Pass the SAVE Act. 0.68

00:53:29 Have mandatory voter ID.

00:53:31 Don't have to worry about the midterms.

00:53:32 Get all the Republicans in line to do the redistricting or the, what do you call it,

00:53:38 gerrymandering to to get as many of those seats as possible out of those Republican states.

00:53:44 Don't worry about the midterms. You see, this is how you need to be thinking. But it's like,

00:53:48 think about all these opportunities that are wasted from COVID and BLM in the first term,

00:53:53 which you could have used to this in the second term. You could nuke the filibuster, do voter

00:53:58 ID. You could manufacture a crisis, send in immigration and National Guard. You could do 0.94

00:54:03 all these things but like i said the team is retarded pam bondy christy noem these are fucking 1.00

00:54:09 idiots dude christy noem she's dressed like a barbie doll because her husband is into bimbo 1.00

00:54:14 she was focusing more on like dressing up as like you know one day as an ice deportation officer 1.00

00:54:20 another day as a cb officer another day as a border patrol agent you know she's over here like 0.98

00:54:24 being fucking you know playing dress up and you know and here's the other thing too because i 0.98

00:54:28 noticed um when you were saying before the people that were incompetent notice how they came from 0.99

00:54:31 the state government and then the people that were tend to be a little bit more competent

00:54:34 jd vance marco rubio they were already federal so you know and then you put someone who's like

00:54:39 a governor of what uh north dakota south dakota if i'm not mistaken christy noem as you know the

00:54:45 secretary of dhs of course he's not going to know what she's doing and you know and the thing also

00:54:49 is like um i think the biggest issue was that like he stopped doing the mass deportations and

00:54:55 he stopped doing the ice stuff to create like political leeway for himself for iran because

00:55:00 he knew that the ice raids were unpopular so he's like okay let me just like let me listen to these 0.98

00:55:04 fucking losers complaining and then like stop that a little bit so i can get more i don't even think 0.97

00:55:09 that's true because they were talking about winding that down in december actually okay so 0.99

00:55:14 you don't even think the around war played a role no i think because the earliest signals i had been

00:55:18 talking about it on my show the earliest signals were coming in like december there was like already

00:55:22 it was even before that because that was in like the first and second week in january it was

00:55:29 before that, I distinctly remember they were saying, you know, we need a refresh on that,

00:55:35 a refresh on the policy, change the strategy. That was the kind of talk that was going around

00:55:40 from immigration, from the deputy chief of staff, Blair, in the White House, from Susie Wiles.

00:55:46 Trump went to the congressional retreat in Doral in Florida, right, right around here.

00:55:51 And it was Blair and Trump both came out and they said, yeah, don't use the word mass deportations.

00:55:57 we're going to talk now only about you know deporting the worst offenders the worst of the

00:56:01 worst criminal aliens right which is an obama that's an obama policy literally it's an obama 0.54

00:56:07 innovation where they say um you know we're only going to deport the worst of the worst we're going

00:56:11 to basically pick up the murderers that the police arrest that incidentally turn out to be illegal

00:56:15 that's not really a deportation policy you know so that had been in the works and the reason it was 0.96

00:56:20 is because they just looked at the polling and they said we're getting killed with hispanics

00:56:24 and we're getting just killed in general.

00:56:26 And if we want to win in the midterms, we just got to back off.

00:56:29 I think that they thought Iran would be popular. 0.91

00:56:32 Okay.

00:56:32 Because they looked at Venezuela, which was very popular,

00:56:35 and they thought Iran would go the same way.

00:56:37 They didn't think Iran would close the strait.

00:56:39 You know, they thought they'd be in their lickety-split. 0.96

00:56:42 It's over.

00:56:42 And I think they were just surprised.

00:56:45 We were trying to leverage, you know.

00:56:46 Right. 0.75

00:56:47 We destroyed, we controlled Venezuela, we controlled Iran. 0.94

00:56:50 That's a bunch of your oil right there.

00:56:52 And now we got Cuba as well. 0.54

00:56:53 which Cuba's known for obviously giving them a bunch of stolen intel. 0.72

00:56:58 Cuba's like the black market of our intel. 0.99

00:57:00 They steal all our shit and then sell it to our adversaries. 0.99

00:57:02 So I think that's what the play was. 1.00

00:57:04 He wanted to go and meet Ping with some leverage for the China summit

00:57:07 because I remember, when are they supposed to meet?

00:57:10 Late March?

00:57:11 And then obviously the war dragged on, so he had to meet in like May.

00:57:13 They pushed it to May.

00:57:14 Yeah, so I think that's what his goal was, but everything just backfired, dude.

00:57:18 Everything has backfired.

00:57:19 Nothing has worked.

00:57:20 You look at the mass deportations.

00:57:22 You look at, obviously, the Epstein files. 1.00

00:57:25 Shit, we got into all this with the— 0.99

00:57:27 Yeah, because the—well, yeah. 0.99

00:57:28 No, it's good, though, because this is all going to be used against them for the impeachment.

00:57:31 Right.

00:57:31 Because that's how we started this conversation is, like, what do you think is going to happen when they're impeachment? 0.97

00:57:34 Now that we're talking about it, I'm like, oh, damn, that's a lot of issues here.

00:57:37 Yeah, and that's what Iran—you know, Iran knows that we're—we and Israel are up against a deadline. 0.95

00:57:42 Netanyahu is up against the October 27th deadline.

00:57:45 We are November.

00:57:46 So I think it's in their interest to basically push it to the limit.

00:57:50 And, you know, that's why they're not in a big rush to make this. Look, if Iran wanted a peace deal, they could have one. Yeah. You know, they would come to the table. But we have no leverage. They're not in any rush to do that because they're winning. And this is they know this is hurting us. And they know that we're on a clock that they are not an economic clock and a political clock that they you know, they really.

00:58:11 And you said it earlier. Iran has been under a sanctions regime. We have this little nicky-nack blockade of the Strait of Hormuz. We say we're going to be doing economic damage to them by depriving them of their imports and exports. They don't care. The IRGC runs that country now. What are the people going to do? Protest? They'll just kill them.

00:58:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:58:29 We saw how that happened.

00:58:30 What are they going to do if they get mad that they're going to protest?

00:58:33 They killed six million of them in January.

00:58:36 Yeah, exactly. 0.87

00:58:36 And, you know, the other crazy thing also with that whole, like, Hasbara thing is like, oh, yeah, they're over here, like, killing the protests or whatever. 0.91

00:58:41 I'm like, yo, like, they're going to side with their government over us. 0.92

00:58:45 Like, the only – it's actually – that's another thing that annoyed me. 1.00

00:58:48 What are your thoughts on, like, these diaspora – I call them shatards. 1.00

00:58:51 Like, these Iranians that, like, live with the stupid lion flag in L.A. or, you know, Europe or whatever. 1.00

00:58:57 like yeah we want the shot back it's like you guys are kind of out of touch like you know pbd 1.00

00:59:01 talks about this shit like all the time like oh the regime and the mullahs and i'm like okay you 0.95

00:59:05 don't have to like the ayatollah whatever but i would argue that the people now are definitely 0.99

00:59:09 backing the government more than like you know having the shot come back because it's like

00:59:14 they're dropping bombs on them like trump's talking about like we're gonna send them back

00:59:17 to the stone age like you know oh yeah they like when we drop bombs on them that just doesn't make

00:59:21 sense like i've seen them like protesting getting bombed and then they show yeah we're getting

00:59:25 attack it's like they're like not scared to die almost so it's like this is a different culture

00:59:29 right and it's just like whenever people say like oh yeah they want us to bomb them or they want us

00:59:33 to do a regime change it's like i don't know about that one dude i don't think they like us too much

00:59:36 in israel no yeah no way and that that's whole thing is persian society is very insular they're

00:59:41 very suspicious and distrusting of outsiders and so it it does literally create the opposite effect 0.88

00:59:46 you drop water by the way no i'm all set i'm good but um you know yeah you drop bombs on them

00:59:52 am I talking to? Do you hear me over there? Oh yeah, you're right over there. Okay. Yeah,

00:59:58 no, you drop bombs on them. It's not going to work. I mean, this idea that you're going to 0.64

01:00:01 bomb them and then they're going to like us more because that's what Trump said at Mar-a-Lago when

01:00:05 they started the war in February, February 28th, he came out and give that speech and it was kind

01:00:10 of like a disturbing speech. He did it with like this black curtain. He was all disheveled, had no

01:00:15 necktie on and he comes out and he says, we're going to decimate Iran's military. And when we're 0.60

01:00:20 finished bombing the shit out of the country, then the Iranian people are going to come out 1.00

01:00:25 and take the government back. They're going to rise up. And you say, how exactly does that 0.99

01:00:29 calculation work? You're going to rock their shit, bomb their city. They're going to come 1.00

01:00:34 out now and support what is basically openly a puppet regime. You know, it doesn't even make

01:00:38 sense. But that's kind of the ill-fated logic that we even had in Iraq. Thanks. I have a full

01:00:45 water here but thank you it's elevated you know that was the idea in syria that was the idea in

01:00:50 iraq it's the idea in all these different countries so yeah so it doesn't work yeah i

01:00:57 got you another one just in case thanks now we got in here double double now you're double fist

01:01:02 in water double fisted up h2o is ready uh actually you know what we could uh let's let's let's talk

01:01:08 about um real quick since we're talking about the topic of like people because like we're talking

01:01:12 about the people that got charged uh can we pull up the bolton thing real quick jump on and also

01:01:15 guys we're gonna go over to kick i'm gonna end the youtube stream youtube streams are going down

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01:01:26 like my mainstream platform now so um and then we'll go over and we have a clip here with john

01:01:31 and then we'll get into like some of the actual stuff going on with the conflict but uh but yeah

01:01:36 Yeah, dude, I think this is going to be very bad for Trump when it comes to what's going on with the midterms.

01:01:42 I mean, I think obviously we're going to lose, but like but it's not just a loss.

01:01:46 It's like a loss. And I think they're going to be out for blood.

01:01:49 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, that's really the whole thing is I said this even a talker.

01:01:54 It's one of the few things we agreed on is when Trump does a half measure, even by winning, all you're doing is pissing off the other side.

01:02:01 Like, because think about it. If Kamala had won in 2024, she would have no mandate. Like she would have no legitimacy. Everybody would think the election was rigged. Even Democrats wouldn't like her because they believe that she was basically a usurper. You know, she she didn't even win the Iowa caucus.

01:02:17 She didn't make it to the Iowa caucus in 2020. She bowed out before even the first race. So she would be looked at as like this puppet who was installed, not popular, not legitimate, no mandate. And and the culture had shifted to the right under Biden.

01:02:33 Think about under Joe Biden. People need to literally just get this through their heads. It's not always a bad thing when the enemy is in charge. Under Biden, Elon bought Twitter. Censorship got better. Zuckerberg moved to the right. You know, he got his afro. He got his chain. He's talking about his wakeboarding on the 4th of July. What's more, it's like wokeism basically died under Biden. You had fuck Joe Biden, go viral. The culture moved to the right. We benefited from that.

01:03:02 And why? Because when you're in the opposition, you get so much more leeway when you're in power.

01:03:07 The pressure is on. You got to be competent. You got to be effective.

01:03:11 You got to present a positive vision and you have to deal with all the contradictions of governing. 0.67

01:03:16 You know, you're pro-Palestine, but you got to deal with Israel.

01:03:19 Biden was getting squeezed to the benefit of the right.

01:03:21 Think about how much more powerful the right got from 2020 to 2024.

01:03:25 Yeah, so much more powerful. And if the Democrats had stayed in, they would have been flaccid.

01:03:30 Now that Democrats are looking very strong in 2028, they're coming back with a vengeance because everyone's pissed at Trump.

01:03:37 Everyone's got a reason from the Massey stuff to the Epstein files, Iran, the bureaucratic incompetence slash corruption, every way the inflation, every way you cut it.

01:03:50 The Democrats are going to be empowered by being negative.

01:03:52 And now that we've had four years of Trump basically messing everything up, now they're going to come back with like literally with a vengeance and they're going to have a mandate.

01:04:00 You know, it's going to be like Zoran Mamdani instead of, you know, lame Kamala.

01:04:05 It's going to be somebody more hardcore.

01:04:07 He's he's he's reinvigorating the Democrat Party.

01:04:10 And it's actually like when he won mayor, I was like, yeah, this guy's going to be he's going to he's going to revolutionize the Democrat Party.

01:04:17 They're going to move from your establishment Democrats, like, you know, a Chuck Schumer over to or Hillary Obama.

01:04:23 Now they're going to go into socialism. And that's what we're seeing.

01:04:26 You know, it's like our Biden. Yeah. You know, in the sense that, right, because Biden is old.

01:04:32 Biden is old and demented and, you know, and weak and incompetent. 0.98

01:04:37 And, you know, what by putting him in and he's a joke, they supercharge the right wing. 0.99

01:04:41 Trump is having the same effect. He's old, demented, incompetent. 1.00

01:04:45 he's tapped like there's nothing new coming out of the MAGA movement. It's the movement's basically 0.99

01:04:49 over. It's super corrupt, super obviously corrupt. It's having the same effect. It's super charging

01:04:55 the left. And here's the problem is like, OK, so there's clearly an appetite for like younger,

01:05:00 energetic, populist leadership from outside the system. And now the left is basically going to

01:05:06 benefit from this advantage of coming in from the outside. Like in 28, they get to be the outsiders

01:05:11 that say, oh, look, are you fatigued with Trump?

01:05:14 Are you fatigued with the Republican Party?

01:05:16 We have the young offering.

01:05:18 We have the young, energetic, Israel-critical, anti-establishment, economically populist

01:05:23 offering.

01:05:24 They actually are in the advantage by being the challenger this time around.

01:05:28 And I think that I'm very insistent upon this.

01:05:31 If Kamala had won, we would be in a stronger position in 28 than we are now.

01:05:35 No, we would be.

01:05:36 And let me actually add to it, because as you were talking about the left getting stronger,

01:05:40 You're right.

01:05:41 Look at these No Kings protests.

01:05:43 Dude, thousands upon thousands of people.

01:05:46 Look at Antifa.

01:05:46 They're becoming more violent.

01:05:48 They're acting crazier.

01:05:49 They're actually like, in New Jersey, they were protesting against ICE for weeks in front of the thing.

01:05:54 Like, oh, there's no immense things here.

01:05:55 We're going to go ahead and complain in New Jersey.

01:05:57 Getting into fights.

01:05:59 The BLM has been a bit more active with them protesting.

01:06:03 Look at what happened with Carmelo Anthony, right?

01:06:06 And then also with Antifa, I've been saying this forever.

01:06:13 It's crazy to me how it took Charlie Kirk getting shot for the Trump administration to finally take Antifa seriously and make them a terrorist organization.

01:06:20 I'm still waiting for them to make BLM a terrorist organization.

01:06:22 They should make that organization as well.

01:06:25 And yeah, man, they've just been out radical.

01:06:28 And then it's like the left already is totally cool with protesting, hitting the streets, the Free Palestine Movement.

01:06:33 Look at what they're doing.

01:06:34 They're protesting every other day.

01:06:35 in New York City.

01:06:37 So it's like, you're right, dude,

01:06:38 they are getting more powerful.

01:06:39 Like, you look at all the...

01:06:41 They're pissed.

01:06:42 And then, like you said yesterday,

01:06:44 I did not know that they were able

01:06:45 to knock on 1.8 million doors.

01:06:48 Yeah.

01:06:49 Well, and...

01:06:49 That's insane.

01:06:50 Think about...

01:06:51 For a mayor.

01:06:52 Yeah.

01:06:53 For a mayor.

01:06:55 To be fair, though,

01:06:56 that's like hyper-left New York.

01:06:57 They're all out there.

01:06:58 Sure, sure.

01:06:59 But it does demonstrate the energy.

01:07:01 And, you know, when it comes to Trump,

01:07:03 for me...

01:07:04 Are we on kick, guys?

01:07:05 Get off everything.

01:07:06 YouTube. 0.83

01:07:06 Yeah, guys, come on over to kick.

01:07:07 Kick.com slash Mario Gaines X.

01:07:09 We're getting off everywhere except for kick.

01:07:11 And then you can keep the rumble up, too.

01:07:12 That's fine.

01:07:13 Sorry.

01:07:13 Go ahead.

01:07:13 The barometer for me is like the podcast bros.

01:07:17 Joe Rogan, Tim Dillon, Theo Vaughn, these kinds of guys like that.

01:07:21 That kind of gives you an insight into the mind of maybe like a normie, like average person.

01:07:24 If Trump has lost Rogan and Tim Dillon and these guys, you know, then what's your constituency going to be in 2028?

01:07:32 It isn't there.

01:07:32 And I think there's going to be an appetite for like a left winger. I don't even think they'll be that radical, but they're going to promise like economic populism back to domestic stuff. It's going to be just enough. And like if Trump were going to be successful, to your point about Antifa, the only the only way that Trump would have been effective and worth it for him to hold office these four years is if he did a few things like one.

01:07:55 he should be protecting right-wingers on social media and in banking.

01:08:00 That's the move.

01:08:01 How do you ensure that the right-wing will even exist and get more radical?

01:08:05 You make sure they don't get banned on social media ever again.

01:08:08 He tried with this.

01:08:09 He did an executive order on freedom of speech or whatever, but it's done nothing.

01:08:13 You need legislation, and they should have done that,

01:08:15 and they should have done something against debanking,

01:08:18 and they should have found a way to get right-wing people a sinecure in government.

01:08:21 All these left-wing activists are funded by NGOs through the State Department.

01:08:25 like, you know, you've got National Endowment for Democracy and stuff like that.

01:08:29 All the NGOs, that's basically a funnel to get that money into left-wing activist organizations.

01:08:35 Like Atlantic Council.

01:08:36 Atlantic Council is funded by the military.

01:08:37 They pay guys like Jared Holt to call me a white nationalist on Twitter.

01:08:41 It's like, so you should be creating institutions to be a sinecure

01:08:44 and actually incubate the far right in the way that the far left has been incubated by the State Department.

01:08:49 Yep, that's the poor Hassan Piker.

01:08:52 He's out here doing interviews with Mom Donnie and everything,

01:08:54 and he's as far left as you want, you know, crazy far left, they support him still.

01:08:58 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:08:59 No censorship, nothing.

01:09:00 So they should have gotten rid of the censorship, the debanking.

01:09:03 They should have been funding the right wing.

01:09:05 And then on the other side, they should have been breaking the back of the left wing institutions,

01:09:08 breaking the back of Antifa, their organization networks.

01:09:13 They should have been going after, you know, arguably some of the left wing billionaires,

01:09:16 the foreign financing for this stuff.

01:09:17 That should have been the move.

01:09:19 But, you know, it's like Trump just doesn't think like, you know, getting back to it,

01:09:22 he's just not a political mind.

01:09:24 He's a business mind. So for him, it's like, you know, can you point to some policy wins? Sure. OK. Yeah. They got rid of some of the DEI. OK, great. You know, they closed the border. That's fine. Is that actually going to change the country? No. Does it change our political prospects? No. Those are the big ones. So that's why Trump's a total failure.

01:09:43 Yeah. 1.00

01:09:43 Damn. 1.00

01:09:44 Yeah. 0.99

01:09:44 So let's talk real quick about John Bolton here because he got found guilty.

01:09:51 And this is yesterday.

01:09:53 So John Bolton is now a felon after pleading guilty to unlawful retention of national defense information.

01:09:57 He and his mustache have agreed to a $2.25 million fine, face up to 60 months of prison, and forfeit his pension.

01:10:04 Let's play a little bit of it real quick, and then we'll kind of react.

01:10:07 So this is, I guess, probably someone I'm assuming at the DOJ, probably U.S. attorney.

01:10:11 This morning, just moments ago, John Robert Bolton II pled guilty in federal court to

01:10:18 the unlawful retention of national defense information.

01:10:22 According to the terms of the plea agreement, Mr. Bolton faces a maximum sentence of up

01:10:28 to five years in prison, followed by a term of up to three years of supervised release.

01:10:36 He will also pay a fine of $2.25 million and will forfeit his pension under the Hiss Act.

01:10:46 As national security advisor to the president of the United States.

01:10:50 He's going to talk about how he had access to some of the most classified stuff.

01:10:54 So what are your thoughts on that?

01:10:56 Obviously, John Bolton is like, you know, you want to talk about swamp creature.

01:10:59 That is a swamp creature for real.

01:11:01 Yeah.

01:11:02 Yeah.

01:11:02 No, it's good.

01:11:03 I mean, he's like the archetypal neocon.

01:11:05 And he's in favor of the architect of all these wars. 0.82

01:11:09 So it's, you know, it's good that they're going after him, but it's just like it's just not enough.

01:11:13 He was critical in the Iraq war.

01:11:14 Yeah, very.

01:11:15 He's, you know, he is like the legendary synonymous with neoconservatism, basically.

01:11:20 He was in the first Trump admin, though.

01:11:22 They brought him in in, what, May or June 2018.

01:11:25 Why did Trump get rid of him?

01:11:27 I think insubordination.

01:11:28 Okay.

01:11:29 Yeah, because he was going against some of the, like, he wasn't in favor of the withdrawal from Syria and some of the other stuff.

01:11:34 But, you know, they brought Bolton in. Bolton was actually the architect of our Venezuela policy, maximum pressure campaign against Venezuela, which is what created the refugee crisis, which is why they're all fucking here. 1.00

01:11:45 Why they're here, yeah. 1.00

01:11:45 Because they basically—

01:11:47 On TPS or, yeah, temporary protective status.

01:11:49 Yeah, yeah, because they—and Trump did that. You know, they destroyed Venezuela's economy, thinking the country would collapse.

01:11:55 All the people fled here, and then one of Trump's last acts as president was to give them TPS so they could stay here.

01:12:02 And then they poured into under Biden.

01:12:03 A lot of people don't talk about that.

01:12:06 I said that to Crowder.

01:12:07 I don't even think Crowder knew that because they all want to talk about, oh, Biden let in these 12.

01:12:11 They never know how the one hand washes the other, you know, because they say Biden let in 12 million people.

01:12:16 It was driven by Venezuela.

01:12:18 They were maybe three to four million of those.

01:12:20 Why were they leaving?

01:12:22 Trump destroyed their economy.

01:12:23 Why were they allowed to stay here?

01:12:24 Trump gave them TPS.

01:12:25 It's like, so, yeah, Biden didn't repel them.

01:12:28 But who drove them here and let them stay, incentivized them to stay?

01:12:32 Trump.

01:12:33 Trump and his guy, Bolton, and then Bolton went and ratted on him.

01:12:37 Now we're chasing him.

01:12:39 This is just like the futility of Trumpism.

01:12:41 You hire someone like Bolton.

01:12:43 He learns all your secrets, publishes them in a book, and now we're going to chase him.

01:12:47 It's like, when are you going to charge Obama?

01:12:49 Charge Obama.

01:12:50 Didn't Tulsi Gabbard do a press conference last year about how Obama illegally spied on the Trump campaign with the FISA warrants?

01:12:57 Whatever happened to that?

01:12:58 Yeah. You know, but this is this is governing by press conference where Trump is going to put out a press release and a press conference and they're going to make these big pronouncements like she did last year.

01:13:08 Well, at DNI, we investigated Obama. He broke the law. Then where's the fucking indictment then? You know, don't give me a press release. Do it. Put him in jail. Why not? They charge Trump.

01:13:20 You know, people say that would be unprecedented.

01:13:22 It's not.

01:13:23 They went after Trump.

01:13:24 How many years were they going to send him up for?

01:13:26 Over 100 years?

01:13:27 Oh, dude.

01:13:28 Across these different cases?

01:13:29 116 years?

01:13:30 He was going to be cooked.

01:13:31 And they raided his house, Mar-a-Lago.

01:13:33 And now they want, you know, so I want to see Obama go to jail.

01:13:37 I want to see Hillary Clinton go to jail.

01:13:39 I want to see Fauci go to jail.

01:13:40 What happened to that?

01:13:41 You saw that?

01:13:42 So Tulsi Drop, what's your thoughts on her talking about how Fauci was involved with the whole COVID thing

01:13:47 and how he kind of, you know, with the, with the, yeah, covered up the origins of it.

01:13:52 You know, once again, it's like, show me the money, man.

01:13:54 Like where's, okay.

01:13:55 He lied about it.

01:13:56 Then, then charge him, then indict him.

01:13:58 But that's the thing.

01:13:59 I mean, ironically, all the people, maybe not ironic, that's the wrong word for it,

01:14:03 but Trump is only going after his like personal enemies.

01:14:06 The people like wrote books about him.

01:14:08 The people he like doesn't, you know, these people like James Comey,

01:14:11 how much power does James Comey really have?

01:14:13 And symbolically, I mean, what does James Comey really represent?

01:14:16 86 like that which that was so so lame like he went after him for that thing with the instagram

01:14:20 post i get it like because look a part of me is like i understand because dude trump was in a

01:14:26 really bad spot um like 22 23 like um and i even for me like i remember i uh the case that worried

01:14:33 me the most because at the end of the day like i think me and you both like we might be pissed

01:14:37 off with our own war whatever but we like donald trump we thought he's hilarious whatever he's i

01:14:41 think he's the most entertaining president of all time the thing that had me concerned was a

01:14:44 classified document case when they went to mar-a-lago and they found all those like documents

01:14:48 there and they're like was it classified is not classified can he declassify them and the thing

01:14:53 that was i was like in my head i was like no he's going to be cooked is because ndi which is exactly

01:14:57 what they got with john bolton it doesn't matter how it's classified if it's military information

01:15:00 it's national defense information cooked it doesn't matter what the classification is so

01:15:04 they had him dead to rights and i knew that this guy um jack smith was not going to let up right

01:15:10 Doreen Jack Smith

01:15:12 so that was the case

01:15:14 that I was like this is bad

01:15:16 the other stuff was like you know the Georgia

01:15:18 Rico I think that was just 1.00

01:15:19 oh my god the black bitch what's her name 1.00

01:15:21 the black woman the DA 1.00

01:15:24 the district attorney for that county

01:15:26 I don't remember 0.65

01:15:27 out of Georgia someone's going to put her name here 0.98

01:15:30 she went after Young Thug as well

01:15:32 made a very similar Rico case against Young Thug

01:15:34 and the YSL

01:15:35 she went after Trump 1.00

01:15:38 for the georgia rico uh with like voter fraud or whatever and then obviously uh washington dc for 0.98

01:15:43 like insurrection was it fanny willis yes yes yes she was like fucking her other attorney yes 0.98

01:15:48 um so she obviously had her political ambitions but like the the south florida document case bro 0.89

01:15:54 i think was the the most dangerous one for sure and that he would have got found guilty on that

01:15:57 one for sure well and to me it's just like why i would love nothing more than to see the obamas

01:16:03 get dragged through the mud because they treat obama like he's a saint they treat michelle obama 0.99

01:16:09 like she's a saint and they're fucking criminals very pompous just like the trumps so arrogant so 1.00

01:16:13 pompous and so much of their power is in this idea that they represented like a better time they were 1.00

01:16:19 the adults in the room and you know they obama is a saint you know the sainted obama so cerebral

01:16:27 and so you know whatever mature and so to see that and you know they got their netflix deal

01:16:33 and they're producing movies now

01:16:34 and they had their thing at the library.

01:16:36 Yeah, just opened up.

01:16:37 The library just opened up.

01:16:38 You know, all these criminals. 0.74

01:16:39 I would love to see nothing more. 0.98

01:16:41 Trump should have launched a strike

01:16:43 on all the former presidents.

01:16:44 Should have been like Bush, Clinton, Obama.

01:16:47 Wouldn't that have been something? 1.00

01:16:49 And that's the kind of shit that we voted for Trump 1.00

01:16:51 the first time to get. 1.00

01:16:53 It's not like these political bullshit victories, 0.98

01:16:56 but like real accountability. 1.00

01:16:58 End the wars, put these people in jail.

01:17:01 You never get it.

01:17:01 You know, let me get your take on this. 0.99

01:17:04 I always thought that, like, the Obamas were responsible for far more than just, like, you know, the political crap. 0.96

01:17:13 Like, I think they brought about a very negative cultural change in America. 0.98

01:17:17 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:17:17 Like, I think the fact that we have now with the transgenderism, you know, started with gay marriage. 0.97

01:17:23 The BLM bullshit that we're dealing with now started with, you know, during the Obama era. 0.99

01:17:27 A lot of this wokeism that we're dealing with now that's at a ridiculous level, it started with him. 0.98

01:17:34 So I think they're responsible for a lot of the cultural issues that are just, you know, obviously evolved and become significantly worse.

01:17:40 What's your thoughts on that?

01:17:41 Yeah, the Obamas wrecked America.

01:17:44 It all originated with them.

01:17:45 And people don't even realize Obama was pretty conservative in 2008.

01:17:49 He won the state of Indiana.

01:17:51 He was against gay marriage.

01:17:52 Do people remember that? 0.96

01:17:53 He was in favor of the auto unions. 0.52

01:17:55 Like Obama did not run as this race communist progressive, which is what he eventually became. 0.68

01:18:01 And and yeah, you're right. 0.52

01:18:02 I mean, it started with Trayvon Martin and, you know, they were very pro-gay and all the rest of it. 0.67

01:18:07 So, yeah, it's it's a huge part of the problem.

01:18:10 Sam Francis shortly before he died, he basically said once Obama won the 2012 election, like America's over.

01:18:16 That was it. So, yeah.

01:18:19 And they need to be held accountable for that.

01:18:21 But you're never going to see it.

01:18:22 That's what Trump should have done.

01:18:23 But, you know, no way.

01:18:25 Yeah. And I think for Trump, it's just been more about like, you know, competing against him, like trying to get a better deal, trying to be a better president.

01:18:30 I think you know what it is? I think it was a 2011 when they had the White House Correspondents Dinner.

01:18:36 They say all the time that that was when, like, Trump said, I'm going to run and I'm going to fucking go against this guy. 0.96

01:18:41 He like he roasted him the whole night like he was just making fun of him. 0.94

01:18:44 And I think that was the night that they were actually getting bin Laden. 0.92

01:18:48 Yeah. Yeah. I think it was right around that night that he was making fun of Trump and they were running the operation for for getting bin Laden. 0.92

01:18:55 And I mean, I don't know if that's the exactly thing, but a lot of people say like that's kind of when Trump said, I'm going to fucking run and get this guy.

01:19:01 Yeah, that was awesome that you ever see that video where he's just sitting there stewing. 0.93

01:19:05 Oh, yeah.

01:19:05 He's so pissed.

01:19:06 Obama goes, I thought he was going to run as a joke.

01:19:08 Yeah.

01:19:09 Or no, that was Seth Meyers.

01:19:10 Obama said something like.

01:19:12 See if you can pull it up real quick.

01:19:13 Oh, that's so good.

01:19:14 White House Correspondents Dinner, like 2011.

01:19:17 And yeah, he's just like making fun of Trump.

01:19:19 He's like just cooking him the whole time and he was pissed.

01:19:21 Sorry.

01:19:22 Yeah. He said something like, you know, Trump has to make these decisions like, are we going to fire meatloaf or Gary Busey? Those are the decisions. Keep me up at night. He's just totally making fun of Trump. And you see Trump is like seething.

01:19:36 Yeah. And honestly, Trump will always have aura for that. This idea that they're just like that Obama made fun of him. So his vengeance was to like become the president. That's insane. That's a big part of the reason. You make fun of me. Okay. I'll take over the world. And he won. He won. He won. Like I remember when he won. I was so like no one thought he was going to win. Yeah. It's what he's 16. Hillary had all these.

01:20:05 like i think she had like a book ready and like the newspaper was ready whatever magazines and 0.97

01:20:09 it's like she lost and she's like what the fuck like no one thought he was gonna win i didn't 0.99

01:20:14 think with him he was even surprised like oh shit i won i gotta be president yeah that's what they 1.00

01:20:18 say you know that he didn't even think he was gonna win uh pull it up real quick this shit is 0.99

01:20:22 hilarious like uh yeah because i'm almost certain this is when like um when they were going to get 0.97

01:20:27 osama oh yeah yeah that's definitely it

01:20:32 is here tonight now i know that he's taken some flack lately but no one is happier no one is

01:20:44 prouder to put this birth certificate matter to rest to ban the donald and that's because he can

01:20:49 finally get back to focusing on the issues that matter like did we fake the moon landing

01:20:57 what really happened in Roswell

01:21:02 and where are Biggie and Tupac

01:21:06 all kidding aside

01:21:09 obviously we all know about

01:21:11 your credentials and breadth of experience

01:21:13 for example

01:21:17 no seriously just recently

01:21:20 in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice

01:21:23 at the steakhouse

01:21:25 the men's cooking team

01:21:28 did not impress the judges

01:21:31 from Omaha Steaks

01:21:32 and there was a lot of blame

01:21:33 to go around

01:21:33 but you Mr. Trump

01:21:35 recognized that the real problem

01:21:37 was a lack of leadership

01:21:38 and so ultimately

01:21:40 you didn't blame

01:21:41 Little John or Meat Loaf

01:21:43 you fired Gary Busey

01:21:47 and these are the kind of decisions

01:21:51 that would keep me up at night

01:21:52 well handled sir

01:21:56 well handled

01:21:59 say what you will about

01:22:02 Mr. Trump he certainly would bring

01:22:04 some change to the White House

01:22:05 and see what we've got

01:22:08 up there

01:22:08 he's not laughing

01:22:21 Donald Trump is here tonight.

01:22:24 No, I know that.

01:22:25 He had the same exact face the whole time, just like.

01:22:28 Yeah, no, not laughing at all, which is so, because he hated Obama. 0.92

01:22:33 He thinks Obama's a punk.

01:22:34 Yeah, and not only that, you know, now I'm remembering why Obama went so viciously at him.

01:22:39 Trump would always say, show us your birther thing.

01:22:41 The birther thing, yeah, because Trump was teasing a run in 2012.

01:22:45 Yeah.

01:22:45 And that's how he got in the news cycle saying Obama wasn't born here.

01:22:49 And that's what made the old.

01:22:50 And what's funny, too, about that is that the Clintons created that when the Clintons run against Obama in the 08 primary.

01:22:57 That's where that came from.

01:22:58 He was born in Kenya and he's not even he can't even be president.

01:23:01 Yeah, that's a big reason why Hillary Clinton didn't get in the cabinet until later, because Michelle Obama in particular had this big grudge.

01:23:08 I think it might have even been like Sidney Blumenthal or like somebody who was involved in cooking that one up.

01:23:13 There's like a lot of like Democrat bad blood because it originated with the Clintons because they're vicious.

01:23:19 Oh, man.

01:23:20 Yeah.

01:23:20 I forgot about that. 1.00

01:23:21 Yeah, because she beat or he beat her out in the primary.

01:23:24 And but yeah, but that, you know, these these new school guys, these these nephews, they don't even remember that.

01:23:31 They don't remember the birther thing.

01:23:32 They don't remember, you know, Trump's because, you know, back in those days, it was super viral in the early Internet when Trump said Obama wasn't born here.

01:23:40 Oh, yeah. 0.97

01:23:40 So Obama's hated him, and then they motherfucked him on the White House thing. 0.87

01:23:44 There was a couple things that Trump would viciously attack him on. 0.95

01:23:46 He would attack him on the birth certificate.

01:23:48 He shouldn't be president.

01:23:48 And then he would also attack him a lot on the Middle Eastern foreign policy.

01:23:53 Yeah, Benghazi.

01:23:54 He would always say, oh, yeah, Benghazi failure, that was a big one.

01:23:56 And then also he would say, Obama's going to drag us into a war with Iran. 0.99

01:24:00 This deal sucks. 1.00

01:24:01 It stinks. 1.00

01:24:01 Which is true.

01:24:02 People say all the time, well, Trump has always been critical of the Iran deal.

01:24:04 He's always been hard on Iran. 0.93

01:24:06 True.

01:24:07 But a lot of his tweets were, we don't want war with Iran, and Obama's going to get us into war with Iran. 0.71

01:24:11 Right.

01:24:11 And then fast forward, what, 15 years later, and he's the one getting us into war with Iran. 0.78

01:24:16 Yeah. 0.99

01:24:16 And it's just like, what the fuck is going on? 0.99

01:24:18 So oriful, though. 0.98

01:24:19 Because that clip was funny, but then to people juxtapose that clip with Trump being inaugurated in 2016 and Obama sitting in the audience, that is actually legendary.

01:24:32 That's why we love Trump, or did.

01:24:34 Can you describe, because I don't think people understand, people might be like, Myron, why is that such a big deal?

01:24:39 Can you tell them how much Trump hates getting made fun of?

01:24:44 Yeah, I mean, he's obviously got a huge ego, very fragile ego.

01:24:49 So that stuff really does get to him.

01:24:51 But I don't know.

01:24:52 I think that's overstated how much that really impacted.

01:24:55 Yeah, because he was talking about running for president for like 30 years.

01:24:59 He's going to run for the Reform Party nomination, I think, in 2000.

01:25:01 And he did actually something in New Hampshire, I think, in 1992 or 96, if I'm not mistaken.

01:25:09 They they set up some like, yeah, because, you know, back in 16, when he was originally running, I was like a big Trump guy and knew everything.

01:25:17 Yeah. So we did something in New Hampshire, teasing a Republican run in like the 90s.

01:25:21 He did the reform, flirted with the Reform Party run in 2000.

01:25:24 That's why he called Buchanan a Hitler lover.

01:25:26 Oh, yeah. Remember that? Yeah.

01:25:28 Yeah. Because Buchanan was one of the first people to be a little bit critical of the of our favorite dreidel spinners. Right.

01:25:34 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ninety two. And yeah. So Trump, like he had been flirting with it.

01:25:40 It's in the 88 convention, the Republican. I think in 88 they were asking him about it.

01:25:44 So he's wanted to be president forever. It's just that to him, I think he always saw that as the ultimate legacy is like, you know,

01:25:52 He wanted to go from what his father was doing, which was apartments in Queens, to the Grand Hyatt Hotel.

01:25:59 And then he wanted the Trump Tower.

01:26:01 And then it was the game show, the celebrity thing.

01:26:03 And then I think ultimately he always wanted to be the boss of the country. 0.91

01:26:08 But to me, he's just sort of a petty tyrant.

01:26:11 He doesn't have that political genius that a Hitler had or a Joseph Stalin had. 0.88

01:26:15 He doesn't have that talent. 0.97

01:26:16 He's just sort of like a petty tyrant. 0.91

01:26:18 Yeah. Yeah. Because it's like he's like because like there's obviously business elements of like a business mindset that will be great as being like a political leader. 0.61

01:26:26 But at the same time, there's like things there that like you might not necessarily think about. Right.

01:26:30 Because you have to be fairly cerebral and tactical with some of the things that you do politically that he, you know, might not be as refined.

01:26:38 He's not an idealist. Yeah. You know, so, yeah. So that's why he was never going to be the guy.

01:26:43 But that video is so funny. It almost makes you remember why it's so interesting, because when you contrast the Trump of 2016 from now, you really forget what it was like.

01:26:52 Yeah, it's been so long and so much has happened. And then people have grown up under Trump ism that we've like lost touch with what it was really like in 2016.

01:27:00 Not only what it was like with like Trump ism in its ascendancy, but also what it was like with the left.

01:27:05 I feel like a lot of these younger kids, especially now, you know, kids that are 18 now or kids

01:27:10 that grew up under Trump, like they never knew the Obama years.

01:27:14 Yeah.

01:27:14 It's like a different generation.

01:27:16 I remember the Clinton years vividly, like as a kid.

01:27:18 Like, that's why like Trump was so shocking to like, because I'm 36, I'm old as hell.

01:27:23 Like, it's so shocking because I was like, I remember when like, you know, presidents

01:27:26 were super proper and nice and, you know, very presidential, they would say, refined.

01:27:30 So this guy comes in and says, we're going to build a wall, you know, and Mexico is going

01:27:34 to pay for it. 1.00

01:27:35 it was unheard of like what the fuck is going this guy you know we're gonna ban the muslim 1.00

01:27:39 countries i was like oh shit like this guy's nuts but it's hilarious so like you know you have like 0.99

01:27:44 i'll never forget this um obama and mit romney debating in like 2011 2012 uh for the presidential 0.97

01:27:50 uh in the presidential um election they're all polite you know uh you know complimenting each

01:27:56 other uh even when obama ran against mccain i remember this old lady well isn't obama a muslim

01:28:01 And he was like, no, he's not a Muslim. 0.99

01:28:02 He's like defending him and shit. 1.00

01:28:04 Like that would never happen nowadays. 0.98

01:28:06 Like it's like they would just like bash each other.

01:28:08 So like it completely went from like, you know, very posh, boring, you know, politics to like now it's like blood sport.

01:28:15 Right.

01:28:15 Like Trump is over here saying like they're eating the cats and dogs like during the Kamala Harris debate.

01:28:19 It's like it changed like into like entertainment almost.

01:28:21 So, yeah.

01:28:22 Well, and not only that, but I is the younger people, they just don't remember what it was like in the early 2010s.

01:28:28 It was so liberal and so woke.

01:28:31 They just like forget the texture of life. Now that Trump is in office, the culture is totally different, like what's acceptable and how far right things have moved.

01:28:39 And I almost wonder how positive that is, because because of that amnesia, I feel like that's what makes the pendulum go back in the other direction, because people have kind of gotten acclimated to like the new normal, which is Trumpism and like what's tolerated.

01:28:53 And they forget what it was really like in the 2010s, which it was unbearable because it felt like it felt like leftism was just inevitable.

01:29:00 Yeah. Everything was going more left forever. You're always going to be surprised about, you know, at first it was the gays and it was the trannies.

01:29:08 Then everyone thought it was going to pedophilia. And it felt like that, like kind of momentum. 1.00

01:29:12 There's a huge push for interracial marriage, too. Yeah.

01:29:14 I don't know if you've noticed, like when Obama came in, there was a huge push for interracial relationships.

01:29:19 Like every Netflix show or every TV show, there'd be like interracial couples all the time.

01:29:24 It was like a thing. 0.99

01:29:25 Well, and it was just always like more feminism, more black, more diversity, more. 1.00

01:29:29 It was always going in that direction.

01:29:31 And what, you know, to his credit, what people don't maybe on our side give Trump enough credit for is he totally arrested that trend and made it move in the other direction.

01:29:38 And things are changing.

01:29:39 Because, like, you know, Elon Musk being the most powerful man in the world and being, like, low-key a white nationalist, that's kind of – you know, you think about that.

01:29:47 And, you know, even these Tesla drivers, they're getting flipped off all the time. 0.61

01:29:52 People drive Teslas, and liberals, like, vandalize the cars, flip them off because they're, like – you know, the guy that runs the number one electric U.S. automaker is, like, a fascist. 0.85

01:30:02 It's, like, a white nationalist. 0.81

01:30:03 Well, and kind of just objectively is in many ways.

01:30:06 And you go, you know, in broad strokes, things have gotten better, and we should work to maintain and push further in that direction.

01:30:14 Well, people forget that, like, when Trump first came in, they were firebombing Tesla dealerships.

01:30:19 Yeah.

01:30:19 Like, yo, they were, like, legitimately firebombing them, like, throw a Molotov cocktails, et cetera.

01:30:24 Like, a bunch of people got arrested for terrorism for doing that.

01:30:26 That was crazy, yeah.

01:30:27 In early 25, when Trump came in. 1.00

01:30:30 So I was like, oh, shit. 1.00

01:30:31 So, but no, it's just crazy times, man. 1.00

01:30:34 Oh, shit. 1.00

01:30:35 Okay, let's go into the war. 1.00

01:30:36 We went over on a whole thing tangent with the impeachment and everything else.

01:30:40 But yeah, no, absolutely insane.

01:30:44 So let's go ahead.

01:30:45 We can go to rerun.

01:30:47 Let's see here.

01:30:49 And guys, we're going to do, obviously, a Q&A section on OSS as well.

01:30:54 You guys can ask me and Nick a bunch of questions.

01:30:56 We'll go over there.

01:30:57 Okay, in a little bit.

01:30:58 Okay, so IRGC confirms this two hours ago.

01:31:00 It's attacks on Kuwait and Bahrain is a retaliation for the earlier U.S. attacks on Iran.

01:31:06 So basically, I think what happened was, obviously, the war in Lebanon did not cease. 0.61

01:31:12 The Israelis did not pull back.

01:31:13 As a matter of fact, they aggravated it by signing this agreement yesterday, which obviously

01:31:16 a lot of people got pissed off in Lebanon.

01:31:20 Hezbollah people went over to the PM's house and everything else.

01:31:23 And then that led to the U.S. striking along the Strait of Hamousa in southern Iran.

01:31:31 and then Iran retaliated by hitting bases in Kuwait and Bahrain.

01:31:37 And then let's see what else we have here.

01:31:41 Initial reports.

01:31:42 Should we scroll up a little bit?

01:31:44 Refresh it?

01:31:45 Like refresh the Twitter page?

01:31:53 It confirmed.

01:31:54 And then I do have an IRGC statement here.

01:31:57 Let me see if I can read it real quick.

01:31:59 Okay.

01:31:59 so it goes

01:32:00 so after they bombed them here's their statement

01:32:03 during a joint missile and drone

01:32:05 operation between 2 and 3 a.m. today

01:32:07 Sunday July 28th your brave sons

01:32:09 and the naval and air forces of the Revolutionary Guard

01:32:11 launched ballistic missiles and drones at

01:32:12 8 vital locations of the American army

01:32:14 at Ali Al Salaam

01:32:17 Air Base in Kuwait and the 5th fleet

01:32:19 in Mina Salman Bahrain

01:32:20 destroying them and firmly responding to the recent American

01:32:23 aggression the aggressive enemy 0.98

01:32:25 which is by nature a breaker of

01:32:26 covenants and agreements attacked 5

01:32:28 coastal sites belonging to the islamic republic at dawn today under the pretext of confronting

01:32:33 the irgc's naval forces against the the violating ship based on the memorandum of understanding

01:32:39 signed in islamabad the agreements uh the arrangements for the uh regulating navigation 0.63

01:32:45 and the strait of humus are the responsibility of the islamic republic and from now on violating

01:32:49 ships will be dealt with more firmly than before and any potential aggression by the enemy under

01:32:55 any pretext even if the aggression is directed against unimportant targets as happened last

01:33:00 night and tonight will face an overwhelming response in the last paragraph here it says

01:33:05 or last sentence the enemy must know that violating the ceasefire is a violation of article one of the

01:33:10 memorandum of understanding signed in islamabad and will lead to a complete cessation of operations

01:33:16 so um what are your thoughts on that nick um that's the irgc statement yeah so you know

01:33:23 Trump's a true social, too, please, guys.

01:33:25 So the MOU says that Iran and Oman will jointly manage the strait.

01:33:29 Yep.

01:33:29 Last week after Switzerland, the Iranian delegation met with the Omanis to work out how they're going to jointly manage it.

01:33:36 And what's happened since then is now the Omanis have opened up a route of passage through the strait, hugging their coast.

01:33:43 Yes.

01:33:43 So the strait goes between Iran and Oman.

01:33:45 And what the IRGC said is the only way we're going to let you go through the strait is if you get permission from the IRGC.

01:33:53 And what that does is create a precedent where then to get permission, you need to pay money.

01:33:57 So Iran said, you're going to go through this lane of passage that we have authorized, that we've opened up.

01:34:03 You need to tell us about it. 0.85

01:34:04 Well, the Omani said, we're opening up our own lane.

01:34:07 Yeah. 0.51

01:34:07 And you can go through it.

01:34:08 them, right? Because they were supposed to work together to split the revenue and then have one

01:34:14 lane that they go through. So the Omanis kind of double-crossed them. 0.98

01:34:17 Right. So the Omanis are saying, we're going to let ships go without paying or asking permission.

01:34:22 This is why the Iranians are now attacking the shipping. The Iranians started, I think, 1.00

01:34:25 on Thursday, Friday, and then today, the past three days, every single day,

01:34:29 Iran has been attacking the tankers that are going through that route to deter them from doing that 0.93

01:34:34 so that they can monopolize the trade. Because if this trade is opened on the Omani side, 0.89

01:34:38 then it's freedom of navigation, and then Iran loses all their leverage.

01:34:41 Because then obviously all the shipping is going to go there instead of asking the IRGC,

01:34:45 and then they can't charge the toll.

01:34:46 So Iran has been attacking the shipping.

01:34:48 In retaliation, the U.S. has been bombing Iran's southern coast.

01:34:52 And the other thing that they're doing is they're sending a full escort package for one single tanker.

01:34:58 There was one single tanker.

01:34:59 I don't know if it was destined for Oman or if it originated in Oman,

01:35:02 but there's a tanker that went through the strait from Oman,

01:35:05 and they had a full package from the U.S. 0.98

01:35:07 They had, like, Ospreys and drones and, like, a full air package to escort the ship from Bahrain through the strait, sending a message to the Iranians, like, don't try to fuck with this Omani route anymore. 0.94

01:35:17 So the Iranians then retaliated against the U.S., bombing Kuwait, bombing Bahrain. 0.60

01:35:22 And now they're saying the MOU is off.

01:35:25 They're saying we may just pull out of the thing altogether.

01:35:27 And the Council of Juris, the expert council, they came out and said we should have never opened up the strait.

01:35:35 They said, we're never going to negotiate the nuclear file and we need a ceasefire in Lebanon.

01:35:39 And so now they're saying on that basis of all three of those points, they're going to just pull out of the MOU and then that's it.

01:35:46 Which is just, I mean, and then we run out of oil.

01:35:51 I don't think people understand like how bad this is.

01:35:53 Like, you know, like we discussed before, the reason why, oh, here's Trump right here.

01:35:59 This is, I said this recently.

01:36:02 Can you make it big on our end?

01:36:03 This is a true social post right here for you guys.

01:36:05 It says United States aircraft just just struck Iranian missile and drone storage locations and coastal radar sites for violent ceasefire agreement.

01:36:12 Again, it is very possible that they will never learn.

01:36:16 There may come a point when we are no longer able to be reasonable and will be forced to militarily complete the job that we very successfully started. 0.96

01:36:25 If that happens, the Islamic Republic of Iran will no longer exist.

01:36:28 President Donald J. Trump.

01:36:30 And that was three hours ago.

01:36:31 Yeah.

01:36:32 So we're in exactly the same situation.

01:36:35 What good is the MOU?

01:36:36 Because what does the MOU say?

01:36:38 Pull up the MOU real quick for us real fast, guys.

01:36:39 It says they're opening the strait.

01:36:41 Okay, strait's not open.

01:36:42 Yeah.

01:36:42 They say there's ceasefire in Lebanon.

01:36:44 There's no ceasefire in Lebanon.

01:36:45 And here it is.

01:36:47 So here's the MOU right here.

01:36:49 The United States of America and the Islamic Republic and their allies in the current war by sign of the MOU declared the immediate permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon.

01:36:57 Also, I find this interesting.

01:36:58 What do you think about this, Nick?

01:36:59 Remember how they tried to slide in Gaza in there and then they had to change it? 0.87

01:37:03 Did they? 0.99

01:37:03 They did originally.

01:37:04 It was like in some of the earlier drafts that were leaked.

01:37:06 And then they made it, then they just made it all fronts.

01:37:08 And then they, you know, obviously made it about Lebanon. 0.60

01:37:12 And I think the Gaza thing was like, okay, maybe that's asking for too much.

01:37:15 I don't think the Iranians were ever asking for that.

01:37:17 They did. 1.00

01:37:18 They did.

01:37:18 I don't remember that.

01:37:19 But like they ended up like pulling it back.

01:37:21 But like in earlier drafts, because it was like, they were going back and forth a million times.

01:37:24 So like they were trying to get Gaza as well.

01:37:27 And then they pulled it back.

01:37:28 And I know this because, oh man, I forget who it was that I was watching, but there

01:37:35 was a lot of people in the Muslim world that were pissed off because Gaza was removed.

01:37:38 That's how I know that it was originally in the drafts, and then they took it out for

01:37:42 the final.

01:37:42 Because that's why they were being so secretive about what's in it, what's not in it.

01:37:46 Because they were kind of passing back a draft back and forth, and Gaza was in it, and then

01:37:49 they removed it.

01:37:50 And that's what pissed a lot of people off.

01:37:51 Yeah, because that would never fly. 1.00

01:37:52 In the Muslim world, yeah. 1.00

01:37:53 Israel would never. 0.99

01:37:53 I mean, maybe Lebanon, but never, yeah. 1.00

01:37:56 And that's precisely why.

01:37:57 Well, I think they just wanted them to not pull out of Gaza, but stop the bombing, is what it was. 0.62

01:38:02 But Hamas hasn't disarmed, so they're going to keep attacking. 0.71

01:38:07 But that's how I know, because I was watching, I forget the, there was a bunch of Muslims that were pissed off about it. 0.90

01:38:13 Because they looked at it like, well, Gaza is the reason that this war started, which allowed for all of this to begin, to give Iran the opportunity that it has now.

01:38:24 why would you betray Gaza because Gaza 0.94

01:38:26 they look at it like, which I can understand 1.00

01:38:28 their grievance, Gaza is the reason why 0.97

01:38:30 everyone is against Israel now because of the

01:38:32 mass murdering so they looked at it like

01:38:34 their suffering and their sacrifice is

01:38:36 not being validated because they were the ones

01:38:38 that created this

01:38:39 the negative press for Israel

01:38:42 that's what's going on

01:38:44 can we pull it up real quick one more time

01:38:45 the final deal will confirm

01:38:50 and refrain from the threat

01:38:52 against force of each other ensuring the territory

01:38:54 integrity and sovereignty of lebanon the final deal confirmed the permanent termination of a

01:38:57 war on all fronts and cool lebanon okay so this is what the first point that they're saying that 0.92

01:39:00 they violated so uh but you were you were saying earlier um with the shit i was we're talking about 0.96

01:39:09 the straight termination um shit i don't remember um but i mean maybe just about the whole situation 0.97

01:39:19 that the mou is now i mean what's even the point yeah you know i mean that it's exactly the status 0.94

01:39:25 quo from before and and fundamentally it's because they just never agreed on these issues

01:39:30 because the disagreement which was at the center of this was if the strait opens it's under what

01:39:37 conditions yeah does iran control it or is it freedom of navigation because that was always

01:39:41 a sticking point iran said yeah we'll open the strait but you know we're going to charge money

01:39:44 and the u.s said no you're not we need freedom of navigation and so apparently you know apparently

01:39:49 in the weeks leading up to the MOU, they said, oh, we resolve that. We're going to let Iran 0.75

01:39:54 charge a toll. And, you know, the U.S. insisted, no, we're not. And they still are. 0.93

01:39:58 So there was no agreement on that. There was no agreement on Lebanon. And then 0.75

01:40:01 the Iranians are using these violations as a pretext. So 0.98

01:40:05 they're saying, well, since there's no ceasefire in Lebanon, now we don't have to open up

01:40:09 the strait. You know, we can bomb shipping if we want to. Since the strait

01:40:13 is closed, now the U.S. is going to hit Iran. Now Iran says, well, then we're not going to talk about the nuclear

01:40:17 file so you know we're just not anywhere closer to a deal than we were a week ago two weeks ago

01:40:23 a year ago it's fundamentally it's the same impasse on every single thing and so now trump says uh you

01:40:30 know we're back at square one with the military threats so we're gonna bomb iran if they don't

01:40:35 behave and you say well what has changed you know what military option is available now that wasn't 0.93

01:40:40 available in april that wasn't available uh you know we threatened to annihilate iranian civilization 0.79

01:40:45 What are you going to do? 0.94

01:40:46 Take Carg Island, bomb the nuclear, or not the nuclear, the oil refineries and the bridges and the civilian infrastructure, invade the islands and the Strait of Hormuz? 0.51

01:40:56 I mean, what realistically are you going to do that wasn't on the table then but is on the table now?

01:41:01 You can't.

01:41:02 There's nothing you can do.

01:41:03 And this is why, for me, I've always wondered where it's going to – I really have no idea where it's going to go. 0.99

01:41:08 I really don't because it's like we can't get Iran to change their behavior. 0.95

01:41:13 We also can't invade militarily. 0.96

01:41:15 So something's got to give here. Either we're going to give Iran everything they want or we're going to get absolutely fucked. Or are we going to go to war? But I mean, that seems that seems like the least likely of all that you're going to see a ground invasion of Iran or, you know, a tactical nuclear weapon or something, because in order for us to have any military options, we would just need to qualitatively escalate in the types of weapons we're willing to use. 0.99

01:41:39 You know, what what kind of tactics we're willing to employ. So I just I really don't see how this ends, because it's literally if we want Iran to engage on our terms, it's it's a ground invasion. It's it's an escalation we're not prepared for. On the other hand, if we don't do that, is there any scenario where Iran opens up the strait under our terms? I think the answer is no. And if they don't do that, you know, then the economy completely falls apart. 0.78

01:42:04 I remember what it was that I was going to ask you. Can you explain real quick to the audience the reason why the reserves and why this, you know, why that was probably one of the main factors for Trump to pull into, get this deal, even though it was very unfavorable to us in the first place?

01:42:18 Yeah. So, you know, it's 20% of the world's oil goes through the Strait of Hormuz. That's been taken offline since February 28th. So, you know, how many months is that? It's all of March, April, May, June. And in order to offset the loss of that supply, the U.S. released hundreds of millions of barrels of oil.

01:42:37 And the whole international community did, right? Didn't like us and obviously everyone else like release. Yeah.

01:42:41 Yeah, I was about to say that. They coordinated through the, I think, International Energy Association, the release of 400 million barrels of oil. And that's just what they coordinated. China released air reserves. We don't even know because they're not transparent about it. But the whole world dumped their supply. And that's why the price hasn't gone out of control, because they were saying that if the war went on into June, you'd have like $200 per barrel for oil. The only reason that hasn't happened is because we've just been pumping this stuff out. But now we're just running out.

01:43:08 There's only 350 million barrels left in the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

01:43:12 That's enough for like, I don't know, 10 or 20 days or something.

01:43:15 It's just not enough.

01:43:16 And once that runs out, you're talking about rationing.

01:43:20 You're literally talking about energy rationing, where they're going to start to say, you can't buy gas.

01:43:25 Or maybe they're talking about like a shutdown.

01:43:27 Are we going to use flat cameras to track how much people are driving and ration fuel per person?

01:43:33 You start to get into that territory.

01:43:34 And, you know, people say, well, the U.S. is an energy exporter.

01:43:37 so we don't have to worry about that.

01:43:39 But we use more energy than we make.

01:43:42 Yeah, please explain that to them.

01:43:43 Because people are so, oh, because Trump always says this during interviews.

01:43:46 He always says, we make more oil than Saudi Arabia.

01:43:49 We make more oil than all these people. 0.89

01:43:50 We don't even really need the straight like that.

01:43:52 We produce our own. 0.84

01:43:53 Now we got Venezuela, et cetera.

01:43:54 And I'm just like in my head like, okay, though some of that might be true,

01:43:59 it doesn't matter.

01:43:59 Can you explain to them why that doesn't matter that we make our own oil

01:44:02 and we got Venezuela?

01:44:04 And it's like, why still does it change the high prices?

01:44:06 Yeah, it all has to. Well, number one, it's just basic like supply and demand.

01:44:11 You know, that's the first and foremost is everyone in the world is competing for oil.

01:44:15 And so the price system works with that like it does for anything else.

01:44:18 And it's down now at 73, but like it's going to go back up, especially with this conflict.

01:44:21 Because they haven't priced it in, you know, because the markets, for whatever reason, the markets are behaving irrationally.

01:44:26 They are responding to the news.

01:44:28 If the headline says the war is over, then they will say, oh, well, oil is going to become plentiful again.

01:44:34 So that's reflected in the price.

01:44:36 But they don't realize that just because even if the war ended today, it doesn't mean that supply goes back to normal because it takes time for supply to increase again.

01:44:44 It takes time to get those ships out of the strait.

01:44:46 It's going to take time for them to build confidence to even go through the strait.

01:44:50 And then, you know, the tankers are slow.

01:44:52 It's going to take them 30 days to get to their destination.

01:44:54 So it doesn't just go back to normal automatically.

01:44:57 And it's not we're not even there yet.

01:44:59 You know, the strait isn't even open still.

01:45:01 So, you know, the price seems to be out of touch with the economic reality.

01:45:04 But the point is, no matter how much oil the U.S. makes, we're still competing for oil on a global market.

01:45:10 It has to do with the type of oil that we are able to refine with our infrastructure, the type of oil that we make, the type of oil other countries make.

01:45:18 All of our refining infrastructure on the southeast coast in Texas is built to refine heavy, sour, crude oil that we thought we were going to get from Mexico and Venezuela.

01:45:29 That's the type of oil in Mexico and Venezuela in the 1990s.

01:45:32 1990s, they thought that was the oil boom. So they built up all this refining infrastructure

01:45:36 for that product. The oil that we get from the oil sands from fracking is light and sweet. So

01:45:43 we don't have the refining infrastructure to use that. We export that to other countries.

01:45:48 And so, you know, this is why even though we have a lot of oil, we're still importing oil.

01:45:52 We import the type of oil that we can refine. And so what eventually happens is it turns into a

01:45:57 logistical situation where it's like, where are we going to get the type of oil that we need?

01:46:03 There's just not going to be enough of it. Yeah. And the infrastructure in Venezuela isn't even

01:46:07 built up yet. It's going to take years for them to build that up. When people say, well, we control

01:46:10 the oil in Venezuela. All right, great. You got the reserves. Well, guess what? Now you got to

01:46:14 create the infrastructure to extract the oil, right? And have it, you know, actually be able

01:46:19 to be actually be able to utilize it. Right. I don't think people understand it's going to take

01:46:22 a while yeah so i mean it's it's not a good situation at all and uh and our oil is more

01:46:28 expensive than other places as well there's like a price discrepancy like you can make the argument

01:46:32 that like with the trading was being closed yes it forces countries to buy our oil we're able to

01:46:37 kind of enter the market whatever but yeah like you said we don't make enough for everybody on

01:46:41 top of what we consume right so it's like what man it's it's a very i don't think people understand

01:46:46 like that like um because i got into an argument about this with like tim pool uh and he was like

01:46:51 oh yeah trump is is purposely keeping the straight home was closed and i was like no he's not dude

01:46:55 no no he's not like he was literally arguing me like saying well it's because he's purposely

01:47:00 doing this like 3d or 4d chess keeping the straight clothes so that we can dominate the

01:47:05 energy market and he has no intention to open it or keep it to open it up and he's just like

01:47:09 feigning diplomacy to get it open i was like no dude that's not what it is like like what like

01:47:15 crash the world's energy market to do that and like have america's paying double double for gas

01:47:20 like how does it how does that help like well it's always the 5d chess with the trump

01:47:24 shells that's all you know it's never as simple as it is there's always some super clever no no

01:47:29 trump is the genius mastermind here's how trump can still win and uh you know that's just not the

01:47:35 case just like epic levels of cope man yeah um what else do we got here so we got

01:47:41 so we got the barrain strikes uh let me see here

01:47:47 how you like Miami by the way man love it love the city it's my second home I'm gonna try to

01:47:55 get him here chat I'm gonna try to get him to to come to come to Miami and move out here hopefully

01:48:00 one day uh let's see here if there's anything else new so Trump threatens uh oh has there been

01:48:06 I think there's been some movement as well with with uh Russia Ukraine if I'm not mistaken right

01:48:10 But nothing major.

01:48:12 I mean, the overall situation is changing, but nothing happened the past 24 hours.

01:48:19 So, okay.

01:48:22 Let me see here.

01:48:24 I'm going to check rerun real quick, see if there's anything else breaking.

01:48:29 Oh, I want to ask you about this.

01:48:31 What were your thoughts?

01:48:32 Because I never got to talk to you about this.

01:48:34 Remember when the F-15 got shot down?

01:48:36 Yeah, yeah.

01:48:36 What are your thoughts on that and what really went down when that happened?

01:48:41 Because there's multiple different theories of what they think was going on.

01:48:45 It was like maybe a failed black operation where they're trying to get the uranium.

01:48:48 And then it ended up having to become a rescue mission because they had this fighter, this weapon system officer that was a colonel that was out there.

01:48:56 What are your thoughts on that in general?

01:48:57 Yeah. You know, I remember that case where they said that the F-15 was shot down and, you know, one of the pilots was stranded there in the mountains. And then in the end, there were two transport planes that got destroyed over there.

01:49:13 And they said that what happened is the transport planes came, I think, not only to get the pilot, but to get the wreckage of the plane or something like that.

01:49:21 And they said that the cargo planes came under attack.

01:49:24 And then there was this discrepancy about where the planes landed.

01:49:28 And they said that it was closer to Iran's nuclear sites than it was to where this guy actually crashed.

01:49:33 And they said, how could he have gone hundreds of miles in another direction when he's some solo guy in the mountains of Iran in a totally remote place?

01:49:41 So, you know, I don't know.

01:49:42 you just never know about things like that. I think, I think that if we were going to go in

01:49:47 to get the highly enriched uranium, it wouldn't look like that because the highly enriched

01:49:51 uranium, according to the IAEA is in the tunnels at Esfahan and it's deep underground. And so they

01:49:59 say that if we're going to go in and get it, we're going to need to bring like excavation

01:50:03 equipment, like literally heavy construction equipment where you need to like dig it out.

01:50:07 And it's going to be the largest special forces operation in history, like like tens of thousands of troops.

01:50:13 And we're going to be literally moving heaven and earth to get to this stuff. 1.00

01:50:17 The Iranians can't even get it. And it's their country. 1.00

01:50:19 And and then you're talking about coming under fire from within Iran, from drones and missiles and and the IRGC.

01:50:26 So I don't I don't think they would seriously do that.

01:50:28 And I think the size of the force that went into Iran, probably too small.

01:50:33 And if that actually happened, I think Iran would say so, because wouldn't that be a big propaganda victory if the U.S. tried to get the uranium and they failed? 0.72

01:50:41 I think so. What I've been told from people is that they were trying to set up a FARP or FARP, whatever, a forward operating location. 0.65

01:50:49 They were slowly bringing these little birds, these these these planes that were used for moving equipment.

01:50:55 And they were setting up kind of like a clandestine operation to do this.

01:50:58 and then what ended up happening was this fighter jet got shot down

01:51:02 and they had to shift from doing one of these raids into a rescue mission

01:51:07 because I think I was talking about Larry Johnson, I know Aguilar,

01:51:12 a couple of these guys were like, why the hell do they have Little Birds here?

01:51:14 These are for quick attacks.

01:51:16 What's going on for a rescue mission?

01:51:18 So the aircraft threw them off and what they were trying to say

01:51:22 is that they think that they're establishing this forward operating base

01:51:24 to do this assault and they got caught off guard

01:51:27 because this fighter jet got shot down,

01:51:29 so they had to completely switch the mission

01:51:30 into a recovery situation.

01:51:32 That's why they had all these unorthodox aircraft in the area

01:51:34 and then why there was all these SEALs and Delta guys

01:51:38 that were in the area as well,

01:51:39 which didn't make sense for a rescue mission.

01:51:40 So that's what they were saying. 0.71

01:51:42 And then also the other thing was that the Iranians

01:51:45 grabbed a military ID or an ID of someone,

01:51:48 and it was a woman, a name,

01:51:52 and I think it was on her ID or something like that,

01:51:54 where she was like a nuclear specialist,

01:51:56 someone that deals with

01:51:58 or knows how to deal with highly enriched uranium

01:52:00 in one of the military components

01:52:02 I forget what it was, it was either an ID

01:52:04 maybe the job series code or whatever

01:52:06 but that's what kind of led them to say

01:52:08 okay, it looks like they were

01:52:10 getting something going on

01:52:12 and this operation got thwarted

01:52:14 because this fighter got shot down

01:52:15 and then the other thing also that was kind of weird was

01:52:17 this guy was like a colonel as a weapon system officer

01:52:20 that was also kind of strange

01:52:22 so that's another reason why they were like

01:52:23 well that's kind of a high rank to be doing that

01:52:25 where they attached to this unit

01:52:28 and then they got shot down and they had to shift what they were doing.

01:52:31 So all these different theories

01:52:32 came out as to why

01:52:34 but regardless 1.00

01:52:35 remember when Trump was talking all this shit 0.99

01:52:38 about Cargill and this, Cargill and that 0.99

01:52:40 MEU here, MEU that 0.99

01:52:42 people were like what the fuck is this? 0.99

01:52:44 People were speculating that that was all a diversion 0.99

01:52:46 to keep from what he was really trying to do

01:52:48 which was try to get this highly enriched uranium.

01:52:50 Right. I don't know. I think it's far-fetched

01:52:52 only because the Iranians would have every reason 1.00

01:52:55 to blow the lid on that, be a big propaganda. 0.90

01:52:57 Well, they got in a big firefight as well.

01:52:59 They did get in a firefight.

01:53:00 But why would they be complicit in the lie?

01:53:02 Wouldn't it be better for Iran to say, you know, you try to get the uranium? 0.85

01:53:05 They made like a Lego thing on it. 0.99

01:53:07 Yeah.

01:53:07 Well, you know how they do those like Lego things where they make fun of the United States?

01:53:10 Yeah, but that's like from their propaganda ministry.

01:53:12 I mean, I feel like they would come out and talk about it and it would be a major humiliation.

01:53:17 Like a formal news thing.

01:53:18 Yeah, yeah.

01:53:19 Fair.

01:53:19 um what so okay obviously we're in a very strange situation right now and guys we're

01:53:25 going to shift over here to oss very soon read the chats and then answer questions over there

01:53:29 um what would you do at this point if you were if you were the president united states man i want

01:53:35 to know what would nick fuentes do um if we're in a position that we're in now how the hell would

01:53:42 you get out get us out of this or how the hell can we get out of there's there's no way i mean

01:53:45 And that's the thing is, like, once you make an error like this, this is a pivotal error, which means there's no putting the genie back in the bottle like that's a fulcrum now.

01:53:55 And there's no good options. You know, like we talked about, you can let Iran take control over the trade and you can, you know, what are you even going to do about Lebanon? 0.88

01:54:04 Nothing you do about Lebanon. Israel's not going to stop. Nothing you do to make them stop. 0.72

01:54:07 And, you know, we could we could try. They're talking about selling F-35s to Turkey and they're talking to Netanyahu's political opponents.

01:54:15 And I think all that is signaling. I think all that's bullshit. I don't think any of that's real. 0.99

01:54:19 They're not really trying to piss off Israel. They're saying those things to make Israel scared.

01:54:24 But Netanyahu's been around for 30 years. You know, you can't scare this guy.

01:54:29 And he runs our shit. He runs America. Larry Ellison gave 60 million to one of Trump's PACs. 1.00

01:54:35 And he's in bed with Netanyahu.

01:54:36 You know what I mean?

01:54:37 And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

01:54:39 So about TikTok and everything.

01:54:40 Right.

01:54:41 So I don't think that that means anything. 0.84

01:54:45 We're not going to get Israel over their dead body. 0.62

01:54:48 Are they going to withdraw from Lebanon? 0.82

01:54:49 If you don't have that, Iran's not going to make peace. 0.56

01:54:52 Iran's not going to go back to the pre-war status quo on the strait.

01:54:55 They're not going to talk about the nukes.

01:54:58 So, I mean, even if you gave them everything that we could, I still don't think you have a deal.

01:55:03 There's also no military options either.

01:55:06 Honestly, what can you do?

01:55:07 Are you going to invade Iran?

01:55:09 No shot.

01:55:10 Are you going to open the strait by force?

01:55:13 How? 0.59

01:55:13 Destroy all their drones and missiles?

01:55:15 You can't.

01:55:16 They're too small, too remote, too cheap, too mobile.

01:55:20 There's too many of them.

01:55:21 They're making more of them already.

01:55:22 Too underground.

01:55:23 Can't be done, yeah.

01:55:24 So there's just really no good option.

01:55:27 And what is happening is that the U.S. is just simply losing this war. 0.98

01:55:32 Iran is just destroying us right now. 0.99

01:55:34 And they know exactly what they're doing. 1.00

01:55:36 They're going to make it as painful as possible.

01:55:38 And so I think that, you know, we are just in the situation where we're in this like

01:55:41 submission hold and we can't tap out, you know, like we're being strangled to death

01:55:45 and there's no way to tap out.

01:55:46 So I really, you know, people are always saying like Joe Kent says, well, we should

01:55:51 just leave.

01:55:52 Maybe that's the only thing we can do is to literally just pack it up. 0.99

01:55:56 Just, you know, say, all right, uncle, OK, Iran's going to control the strait. 0.83

01:56:00 and these commercial ships are going to have to maybe pay money. 0.82

01:56:05 It'd be cheaper than what we're doing now,

01:56:06 which is escorting the commercial ships through.

01:56:08 Just pay the fine.

01:56:09 It's yours now.

01:56:10 That's the cost of it.

01:56:11 I mean, maybe it's literally as simple as

01:56:13 we're just going to have to evacuate our bases in the Middle East, 0.61

01:56:16 bring the carriers home, pay Iran our reparations. 0.87

01:56:19 We might literally just have to give them the whole thing. 0.86

01:56:23 And I think that may be the only way out at this point.

01:56:25 It's just like an unconditional U.S. surrender.

01:56:28 And people are going to say, and people have said, that we're pro-Iran or something.

01:56:34 That might be the only option we have left.

01:56:36 Might be it.

01:56:38 What else can you do?

01:56:39 I mean, seriously, because you got these guys like Shapiro and Levin, and they say,

01:56:42 we just need to keep going.

01:56:44 We're being soft on them.

01:56:46 I mean, realistically, what can be done that hasn't already been done?

01:56:48 We bombed them 15,000 times. 0.88

01:56:50 Yeah, all the Zionists were saying continue the war.

01:56:51 It's actually insane. 1.00

01:56:53 Like one idiot I was talking with the other day, they're like, I don't like the MOU. 1.00

01:56:57 like we just got to keep going 1.00

01:56:58 I'm like what the fuck 0.99

01:56:59 are you going to do 0.99

01:56:59 like at this point

01:57:00 and I don't think

01:57:02 these people understand

01:57:03 you have no military options

01:57:04 because the next step

01:57:06 is a nuclear bomb

01:57:07 or destroying their infrastructure

01:57:08 and if you do that 0.83

01:57:09 say goodbye to the Saudis

01:57:11 the Kuwaitis 1.00

01:57:11 the Bahrainians

01:57:12 the UAE

01:57:13 I think the UAE

01:57:13 got hit 2,000 times

01:57:14 during this course

01:57:15 of this war plus

01:57:16 and it's like

01:57:17 they can't do anything

01:57:18 because they're right there 1.00

01:57:20 next to Iran

01:57:20 on a map

01:57:21 like can we pull up

01:57:22 real quick on a map

01:57:22 just to illustrate to the audience

01:57:23 like how defenseless 1.00

01:57:24 these fucking Gulf states are 1.00

01:57:25 it's actually ridiculous 1.00

01:57:26 like how little um you know defense they have and then like the interceptors like you said are

01:57:32 pretty much cooked yep you know i mean man i mean we burned through 75 percent of our miss

01:57:40 according to estimates of our missile interceptors and you know nine of our bases have been rendered

01:57:45 inoperable like the reporting on the extent of the damage has totally undersold how much of it

01:57:50 has been you know completely wiped out and the u.s has no defenses like you know i was watching uh

01:57:55 some of the stuff they were talking about how when we went to war in the

01:57:58 global war on terror,

01:58:00 we were not worried about it big real quick.

01:58:01 And then,

01:58:02 yeah.

01:58:02 Oh,

01:58:02 uh,

01:58:03 so guys,

01:58:03 zoom in down a little bit.

01:58:05 You can see where Iran is. 1.00

01:58:06 Move, 1.00

01:58:06 move to the,

01:58:07 move to the,

01:58:08 your left a little bit now down,

01:58:10 down.

01:58:11 Cause we're in the way.

01:58:12 So like guys look at,

01:58:14 no scroll down more.

01:58:15 Yep.

01:58:15 Move down a bit more and move it down South.

01:58:20 Okay.

01:58:21 See where Dubai is guys compared to Iran.

01:58:24 Dude, 0.98

01:58:24 Dude, that's like a hop, skip, and a jump away.

01:58:25 That's like 30 miles of water that separates them, dude.

01:58:28 They could just hit them relentlessly. 0.98

01:58:30 All these Gulf states are right there across the Persian Gulf from Iran. 1.00

01:58:35 And that's why they've been able to just bully them the whole time. 1.00

01:58:37 Sorry.

01:58:38 Yeah.

01:58:39 I lost my train of thought.

01:58:40 What was I talking about?

01:58:41 It was – oh, yeah, yeah.

01:58:43 In the global war on terror, we were not worried about attacks from the air.

01:58:47 This was before drones.

01:58:49 Taliban didn't have an air force, anything like that.

01:58:51 And so when we actually had our troops in Iraq and in these other countries, their fortifications were like they would put sandbags up because they're worried about vehicle attacks or rockets or something.

01:59:01 They weren't worried about the air.

01:59:03 So when we're in some of these countries like Kuwait, which is, I think, where these people got killed.

01:59:08 Yes, they're just in like they're just in regular buildings.

01:59:12 And and the building where some of these people were killed, they put out a request to the military saying we're not safe here.

01:59:18 This is one of the targets. And if we get hit with a drone, we're going to die. And that's what happened. They got hit with a drone and they died because we're not ready for shooting down projectiles from the air. We're not ready to deal with the drones. And so, you know, we are really incurring severe losses in terms of equipment, in terms of personnel. And what's funny, too, so we go into the war to destroy the missiles. That's the whole idea.

01:59:41 And our ability to destroy the missiles is what prevents them from closing the strait.

01:59:46 If we can suppress the missile and drone fire, then they can't keep the strait closed.

01:59:51 So we bomb them 15,000 times and we pound them literally with everything we have. 0.76

01:59:55 We have destroyed only 25% of their missile stockpile, still have 75% of them.

01:59:59 And since the ceasefire, they've already gone back to work on their missile production facility.

02:00:03 So they're going to start pumping them out all over again.

02:00:05 Same thing with the drones.

02:00:07 China's furnishing them with these supplies to build more of it.

02:00:09 So at the same time, the U.S. has burned through 75% of the interceptors.

02:00:14 So we destroyed 25% of their missiles.

02:00:17 We burned through 75% of our interceptors.

02:00:19 And again, you say, if we go back to war, what more can be done?

02:00:25 We bomb them 15,000 more times.

02:00:27 Are they going to now have half the missiles?

02:00:29 Have they rebuilt more of them?

02:00:31 I mean, they say that it's going to take around six months to get back to their pre-war stockpile of missiles.

02:00:36 And it's already been two months since the ceasefire.

02:00:39 So that's the problem. 0.95

02:00:41 It's just there's no way that you're going to sufficiently suppress Iran's ability to shut down the strait in time before there's an economic calamity. 0.99

02:00:49 And the scary part is they don't even really have to shut it down with force. 0.99

02:00:52 All they've got to do is create fear.

02:00:53 Right, exactly.

02:00:53 They just hit a couple of boats, and then Lloyd's of London are not insuring any of these ships, and they're not going to go through.

02:00:57 Exactly.

02:00:58 That's all they have to do.

02:01:00 Do you think more U.S. service members are dead than the, I think, 13 and 15 that they're claiming?

02:01:06 I think that would be illegal.

02:01:07 Isn't there, like, a legal requirement to talk about casualties?

02:01:11 I don't know.

02:01:11 There's more injured.

02:01:12 Yeah.

02:01:13 There's more severely injured.

02:01:14 Oh, yeah, hundreds are injured.

02:01:15 They've been keeping that hidden.

02:01:16 Yeah, DropSite said there's, like, over 300 that have been severely injured.

02:01:20 Yes, yes, especially from Kuwait, like, because a lot of them had to get airlifted to Germany.

02:01:24 Right, yeah, right, right.

02:01:25 Like, on, like, the first couple days of the war in the U.S., obviously, like, there was a couple, a lot of people reported that, like, Kuwaiti hospitals were, like, completely being bombarded with U.S. service members,

02:01:35 and they couldn't take care of them and they had to 0.97

02:01:37 airlift them all to fucking Germany. And obviously 0.99

02:01:39 the US government is not going to disclose that.

02:01:42 But yeah, and then I remember for a while

02:01:43 they didn't say anything about the bases being destroyed

02:01:45 but yeah, CNN did a report and a couple others

02:01:47 and they found out like, no, they're

02:01:49 inoperable, man. They're inoperable.

02:01:51 And then people say, why did they start

02:01:53 hitting hotels? Because service members end up going to

02:01:55 these hotels, they found out, and that's why they're

02:01:57 shooting these precise drones into these hotels.

02:01:59 So it's like,

02:02:01 you know,

02:02:02 at this point

02:02:05 because I'm thinking to myself

02:02:06 what can you do militarily

02:02:08 you can't really do much more

02:02:09 because if you do it

02:02:10 you're going to risk

02:02:10 the Gulf states getting destroyed

02:02:11 because the next step 0.63

02:02:13 is nuclear bombs

02:02:14 or power plants

02:02:16 or you know

02:02:17 infrastructure

02:02:18 and then you can't invade

02:02:19 because you got the

02:02:20 not the Alboros Mountains

02:02:23 the Alboros Mountains

02:02:24 are on the Caspian Sea

02:02:25 the Zagros Mountains

02:02:27 to the east 0.98

02:02:28 Saddam couldn't get past those 0.97

02:02:29 so it's like 0.99

02:02:30 how the hell are you going to do

02:02:30 you'll never be able to do

02:02:31 land invasion we don't have the stomach for it politically anyway so it's like what can you

02:02:36 honestly do at this point it's like um the only thing you could do if is you would have to really 0.92

02:02:42 go hard on israel and tell them you got to leave lebanon but they're not going to do that so it's

02:02:45 like i don't know what the hell the trump administration is going to do at this point

02:02:48 and then like you said which is true um they've only just stopped maybe 25 to 30 percent of their

02:02:53 missile uh capabilities and then and they're still making their drones their missiles which

02:02:57 is funny because i remember on day one of the war or sorry like the first couple days of war

02:03:01 Netanyahu and the Israeli government were like,

02:03:03 they only have 100 launchers left.

02:03:04 Come on, dude.

02:03:05 Yeah, I remember that, yeah.

02:03:07 Like, you know, they're still shooting a missile. 0.99

02:03:09 So, yeah, I don't know what the fuck 0.99

02:03:12 is going to end up going on here. 0.97

02:03:16 So, I think, so you're completely against,

02:03:21 like, because the other thing also,

02:03:22 because this is an MOU as well,

02:03:24 they wanted us to pull out of the region.

02:03:26 What are your thoughts on that?

02:03:27 Like, do you think that would be a complete,

02:03:30 Well, it would be a complete capitulation, of course.

02:03:32 But would that set us up for long-term failure, in your opinion?

02:03:36 Leaving the region all together?

02:03:38 It's hard to say.

02:03:39 I think that's what we wanted to do anyway. 0.74

02:03:41 That's really the whole point, is to get Saudi Arabia and Syria and the Abraham Accords. 0.87

02:03:46 And then even if Iran still exists, Iran will be balanced by this Abraham alliance, they want to call it. 0.90

02:03:52 Which is Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi, Syria, the Emirates, Bahrain. 0.92

02:03:57 That was the whole idea.

02:03:59 And then we would need to be there because then we could furnish all these countries with fighter jets and intelligence and all these things.

02:04:05 And if it got to that point, they'd be able to defend themselves. They wouldn't need us.

02:04:10 So now the question is, OK, Iran isn't going anywhere. Saudi's not normalizing with Israel.

02:04:16 Maybe Syria isn't either. So, you know, the situation isn't quite the same.

02:04:22 And we can't really hand it off to these other countries to do it because, you know, like in Europe, for example.

02:04:28 We want to do the same thing in Europe. How? We're going to get UK, Germany, France to spend more on military. Then they don't need us. They can defend themselves from Russia and then we can leave. Well, this alliance in the Middle East isn't happening. You know, so but then again, do we really even need to defend these people at that point? Well, that is where all the oil is. So I don't know. I mean, I don't know that the U.S. is in a position where we can leave them to their own devices.

02:04:53 You know what else is kind of like, I guess, troublesome? 0.84

02:04:58 They talked about after Israel attacked Qatar, I know Saudi Arabia, that obviously shook them up quite a bit when they were trying to kill the Hamas guys back in September, actually, right before.

02:05:08 I remember because it was right before Charlie Kirk passed away. 0.76

02:05:10 They attacked Qatar trying to get these Hamas guys while they were trying to negotiate this thing. 0.65

02:05:15 And obviously it was very embarrassing for us and everything else like that. 0.73

02:05:18 But Saudi Arabia went and did a deal with Pakistan for security assurances since they have nuclear weapons.

02:05:25 I don't know if you've heard about this.

02:05:27 Have you heard about these talks how they're going to try to create a Muslim NATO?

02:05:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:05:31 With Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Turkey, Qatar.

02:05:35 What are your thoughts on that?

02:05:37 Yeah, I mean, it's certainly interesting. 0.72

02:05:40 And I think that's a good idea because then it almost becomes like an anti-Israel bloc.

02:05:44 And what is happening is that the Middle East is just fundamentally different now than it was before October 7th.

02:05:49 What's shaping up is even before the Iran war, you had Saudi and the Emirates splitting up because Saudi is actually, you know, when Mohammed bin Salman first got in, he wanted to shake everything up.

02:06:00 Now he wants to calm everything down.

02:06:01 Now they're really like a status quo power, trying to preserve the status quo. 0.84

02:06:05 The Emiratis, like the Israelis, are trying to change everything.

02:06:07 That's why they're intervening in Sudan. 0.84

02:06:09 They're intervening in Yemen.

02:06:10 They're intervening in all these different conflicts.

02:06:11 And so what would emerge is an alliance. Like you said, there's a mutual defense pact now between Pakistan and Saudi. And then they're talking about bringing Turkey to that as well. And those are going to be like and Qatar, too. These are going to be the the forces in favor of the status quo.

02:06:27 What you might see on the other side is a different block, which is, let's say, Israel, Greece, the Emirates, Azerbaijan, and they're going to be like the revisionist powers.

02:06:38 And so the Middle East is really going to, in terms of the geopolitical alignment, it's going to be totally different.

02:06:43 And then the question would be, which side would Iran be on?

02:06:46 Probably they'd be on the side with Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi, Turkey.

02:06:49 I mean, it sounds crazy that there's a one time, of course, the Saudis and the Iranians were in this like proxy war for 10 years or which engulfed the entire Middle East.

02:06:58 And and now you might think in a scenario where the U.S. leaves the region, maybe then that is how things would would shake out.

02:07:06 And then you just have been a proxy war between these more revisionist powers and these like Islamist status quo powers.

02:07:14 It might shake out to be something like that.

02:07:16 But I don't know that the U.S. can really afford to leave the Middle East just because of how vital the commodities are there in the trade as well.

02:07:24 Yeah, not only that, but I think it would open a door for China to come in and build an enormous amount of influence in there as well if we were to leave.

02:07:31 I think that's a big reason why they didn't want to leave, but Iran wants them out of there as part of the MOU.

02:07:37 Obviously, they would never leave completely.

02:07:39 But, I mean, you don't think China would try to come in and take some of the influence, especially with their partnership with Iran?

02:07:43 I don't think so, because China has no ability to project power in the Middle East.

02:07:46 They're an economic power, but they just have no ability to project power.

02:07:52 I mean, not even in Taiwan yet.

02:07:55 But you don't think if we pulled out, that opened the door for them to potentially maybe build a base in Iran or build a base in our—

02:08:01 Well, I mean, yeah, yes and no.

02:08:03 I mean, it would have been trending in that direction, the UAE and Saudi—

02:08:06 If we left, of course. If we left is what I mean. 0.71

02:08:08 Yeah, I mean, they joined BRICS already.

02:08:11 And Beijing brokered a truce between Iran and Saudi Arabia in 23.

02:08:16 They opened up embassies and everything.

02:08:17 They talked about normalization and everything.

02:08:19 So, yeah, I mean, China would play like a diplomatic role.

02:08:23 And, yeah, maybe they'd build some infrastructure.

02:08:25 All those countries are Belt and Road countries, too, even Israel.

02:08:28 And, you know, we've seen some of the middle powers are playing China and the U.S. off of each other.

02:08:33 Saudi did that under Biden.

02:08:34 Turkey does this between Russia and the United States.

02:08:37 So certainly their influence would increase.

02:08:39 But I think so much of that is overstated because China just they don't have as long of a reach as the United States does because they're we're a security provider.

02:08:46 They are not a security provider at all.

02:08:48 Yeah. And the only thing with the security provider thing, which like I think we kind of got shown to be a paper tiger, was we weren't able to protect our Gulf allies in this situation.

02:08:55 And even, you know, and obviously our ability to even intercept missiles or whatever, that's kind of been, you know, significantly reduced as well. 0.97

02:09:01 So it's like, that's another thing from this conflict that I was like, oh man, like, we've been, like, Saudi Arabia's complaining, they protect Israel more than us, what the fuck is going on here?

02:09:09 So it's like, you know, is our security assurances and guarantees going to be as potent, as powerful as what it was now that people have, like, literally seen we can't even stop drones from $20,000 drones from, like, you know, passing a waterway and hitting our allies that, you know, obviously have very sensitive and, you know, fragile infrastructure.

02:09:28 so i don't know man it's it's absolutely nuts um what do we got here we got some uh we're gonna

02:09:34 you know we're gonna shift here uh guys over to osss and hold it

02:09:36 yeah you know what

02:09:40 real quick and then um oh tell them real quick about uh your merch in america first plus

02:09:50 yeah tell them bro come on i don't i hate plugging i hate plugging i barely like to

02:09:56 plug it on my own show.

02:09:58 Do it, man. Do it. So they can show you love.

02:10:00 That's crazy.

02:10:02 Yeah, yeah. Fuentes.store for the merch.

02:10:05 AmericaFirst.plus for the subscriptions.

02:10:08 And the show.

02:10:09 And the big show.

02:10:16 I've got to do a quick commercial break as well.

02:10:18 And then I've got to open it up.

02:10:20 No, it's going to open up for you automatically.

02:10:22 If it continues.

02:10:24 And then...

02:10:26 Yeah, we'll do a quick thing here in a second

02:10:33 Then we'll do the shift

02:10:35 Let me see here

02:10:37 Yeah, to get it open

02:10:40 Yeah, no worries

02:10:41 Oh, was that ending up with the Todd Blanche thing?

02:10:44 That was his lawyer?

02:10:45 Brett?

02:10:46 Oh, yeah, yeah

02:10:47 It was his personal lawyer, right?

02:10:49 For New York

02:10:49 Yeah

02:10:50 What are your thoughts on the

02:10:54 the Epstein debacle?

02:10:56 Do you think that's going to come back

02:10:57 and haunt the entire administration

02:11:00 and people are going to go to jail

02:11:00 when the Democrats get in

02:11:01 or is it going to be a part of the oversight?

02:11:03 No. I think it's all bullshit. 1.00

02:11:04 I think the whole Epstein thing 1.00

02:11:05 is a load of bullshit. 1.00

02:11:07 Okay. 1.00

02:11:07 And the Democrats,

02:11:08 that's a political football.

02:11:09 I always thought that about the,

02:11:10 you know, because they all say...

02:11:12 So we got MTG in the whole,

02:11:13 in the hot seat with him and everything.

02:11:14 Yeah.

02:11:15 But, you know, look,

02:11:16 the Democrats, if they wanted it,

02:11:17 they could have gotten it under Biden.

02:11:19 Biden was just...

02:11:19 And by the way,

02:11:21 you know,

02:11:22 So Epstein was a Democrat.

02:11:25 You know, the triangulation of Epstein was the Democrats here, the Labor Party in the

02:11:30 UK and the Labor Party in Israel.

02:11:31 So he was practically a Democrat operative. 0.54

02:11:33 He was like a blue church operative, let's say. 0.83

02:11:37 Trump probably had him killed.

02:11:38 I mean, most likely it was during the Trump administration.

02:11:41 Yeah.

02:11:42 And he died under the Trump administration.

02:11:43 Yeah.

02:11:43 It was Bill Barr that picked him up, you know, and he died under Trump.

02:11:46 So I think the Democrats, they just wanted that to go off on it for obvious reasons,

02:11:50 because now this is how you get the Trump base to be deflated.

02:11:54 Yeah. 1.00

02:11:54 But, I mean, it's all bullshit. 0.98

02:11:55 What really came out of the files? 0.99

02:11:58 Nothing.

02:11:58 Yeah.

02:11:59 I mean, people were just doing control Fs the whole time.

02:12:02 Like, your name's in there.

02:12:03 Your name's in there.

02:12:04 It was such a nothing burger. 0.98

02:12:05 They had three fucking million files, and you don't got one thing. 0.98

02:12:09 Yeah. 0.98

02:12:09 Nothing.

02:12:10 And everybody hated me for saying that, but look, I'm honest.

02:12:13 You know, did we find a smoking gun in the files?

02:12:15 No. 0.99

02:12:15 People want to point to one stupid email that's totally vague, 0.99

02:12:18 that, you know, people are just assuming 1.00

02:12:21 there's something bad.

02:12:22 And so much of it was just fake.

02:12:24 People were posting, like, AI images

02:12:26 that weren't even in the files.

02:12:29 Someone submitted an FBI tip

02:12:31 saying, oh, here's, like, a video of Epstein abuse. 0.70

02:12:34 It was some, like, fetish porn video. 0.91

02:12:36 Nothing to do with Epstein. 0.88

02:12:38 So I think it was a big nothing burger.

02:12:40 And then, of course, we release all the files,

02:12:43 and then people go,

02:12:44 well, what's in the three million other files?

02:12:46 You go, okay, so what's going to happen

02:12:48 where there's nothing in there.

02:12:49 Yeah. 1.00

02:12:49 You know, I think it's a crock of shit. 0.99

02:12:51 I think it's important for people to understand that, like, you know, there's a reason why 0.99

02:12:54 they couldn't, like, push a full-on criminal investigation to all the people involved, right?

02:12:59 Like, the FBI tried, you know, and they just weren't able to build enough probable costs

02:13:03 to indict a lot of these other people that were involved.

02:13:05 So, like, you know, what you know and what you can prove are two completely different

02:13:09 things, and people tend to not know that.

02:13:11 Now, I mean, you know, let me read this quick, a quick commercial break, if you want to take

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02:13:25 can just let nick uh take a piss or whatever and i'll i'll read this you can put me on camera only 0.54

02:13:30 uh okay yep you just hit uh oh you got to click the link the task google docs yeah okay um okay 0.50

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02:14:52 So, guys, we're going to shift on over

02:14:53 to OSS. We're going to answer your guys' questions.

02:14:56 Nick, do you have anything you want to tell people

02:14:57 before shift on over to OSS? No.

02:15:01 I'll answer. I'll read

02:15:02 all the Super Chats over there, and we'll answer questions.

02:15:03 and Nick will hang out

02:15:05 with us for a little bit longer

02:15:06 and then

02:15:06 he's got to go man

02:15:08 he's got to go do some things

02:15:08 man he's a busy man

02:15:09 I don't want to hold him here forever

02:15:10 and then obviously

02:15:13 I'll be back on

02:15:13 we'll do a longer stream tomorrow

02:15:14 for you guys as well

02:15:15 so I'll read all the super chats

02:15:17 guys get them in right now

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02:15:33 cause YouTube is gay 1.00

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02:15:35 um 1.00

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02:15:37 like cause they were like

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02:15:39 did you try to reapply

02:15:40 to like reinstate

02:15:41 yeah

02:15:42 me and Alex Jones

02:15:43 made new accounts

02:15:44 and then they banned them

02:15:45 in 24 hours

02:15:46 but did you try to like

02:15:47 um

02:15:47 cause I know like if you

02:15:48 what was it

02:15:49 I don't know if you like

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The Debrief With MyronGainesX - June 28, 2026

BREAKING： Iran & United States Trade Strikes! Ft. Nick Fuentes

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