Candace Owens On Feminism, Zionism, Who Assassinated Charlie Kirk？
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1 hour and 7 minutes
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214.59042
Summary
Candice joins Jemele to discuss the Tucker Carlson smear campaign, and why she thinks Charlie Sheen should have been allowed to be anything but a Christian-Zionist. She also talks about her relationship with Andrew Tate, and how she became one of his biggest fans.
Transcript
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Who do you think is the most responsible? Why would they want him gone?
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I think Charlie was not allowed to be anything but a Christian Zionist,
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Everything began ratcheting up after Tucker Carlson hit the stage.
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It was like a full court press effort to lie about everything.
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I do not like the way Turning Point is behaving.
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I've made that clear, and nobody is going to emotionally manipulate me
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and tell me to attack Turning Point would be to attack his legacy.
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Charlie told me years ago he was having a ton of visions
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and was telling me Turning Point was going to be a death of him.
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and strangely knew that I was going to be the only person to defend him.
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I'm excited, and thank you for making it work on short notice.
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we got to be careful about where we're at, right?
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So it's been a while since we last spoke, last time you were on.
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I remember we did After Hours where you were saving a few women's lives,
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One of the girls that you spoke to actually quit OnlyFans on that day.
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I feel like a lot of people think that, I guess,
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those conversations are not worth it or the show is all theater.
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But for me, I want to sit across from these young women
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because anybody's life could have ended that way.
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Like, I could have ended up being one of these OnlyFan girls
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if there weren't so many, like, life interventions
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Yeah, but I wanted to make sure I told you that, you know,
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on camera that she literally quit, like, not too long after you did that show.
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So kind of with that, I saw that you had did a debate on Jubilee
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you're able to really reach a demographic of women that just guys like me
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and Andrew Tate and others just aren't going to reach
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because, you know, we're abrasive in the way that we get it.
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So they might want, you know, another female's perspective on,
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you know, the detriments of feminism and everything else like that.
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how do you see feminism today with young women?
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And then what do you predict is going to happen in the next 5, 10 years?
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So I was actually very interested in Tate culture,
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So I'm going to put you in that orbit of Tate culture.
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All of these male influencers that were coming out
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and calling girls B-I-T-C-Hs and hoes and all this stuff.
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Whatever you think about him, whatever you think about Tristan,
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So I kind of, that was the reason why I flew out to meet Andrew Tate.
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There was all of these conspiracies that I knew him before.
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I met Andrew a total of two times before I did his show.
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My husband hung out with him maybe three times in his life before him and I met.
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I'm never a person that will dismiss something on its face and call it a name.
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And what was actually happening was you got Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate
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and you got Myron Gaines because you perpetuated a culture of Lena Dunham's, right?
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So you're acting like men just got tired of it is what happened.
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And finally, men looked around and somebody stood up and said,
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it's actually okay to be a man and you don't have to listen to any of these women.
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You may not have liked that they were doing this on top of Lamborghinis.
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But the reality is, is that what sat beneath that was a horribly toxic culture where women
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And every time a man did something that actually felt natural to them, you called it toxic masculinity
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and books were written and Lena Dunham is writing articles.
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And there's a show about this and Lena Dunham's naked on Instagram.
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I wrote a whole chapter about Lena Dunham in my book.
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And she's naked on Instagram and she's lecturing you if you don't want to see her,
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So you can't blame the culture, Tate culture, until you are ready to address where this actually
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came from, which was women constantly bashing men over the head and telling them
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Given the problems that we have, you know, obviously, whether it's me or Tate or other people,
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we'll kind of come in and say, hey, this is what you need to do as a guy.
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You know, this is how the modern day marketplace is now when it comes to dating.
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What's your approach to kind of combating this problem from a female perspective?
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First, you have to understand the origin of feminism, right?
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You have to understand that this was not a culture and an ideology that came because
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they wanted women to have equal rights with men.
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OK, these protests were sponsored by men in government.
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And the reason for that was simply because they wanted to tax.
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They wanted to tax households, household income both ways.
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And also they wanted women to instead of focusing on their kids, which comes natural to women,
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right, to be the quote unquote, like I say, CEO of the household.
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They wanted to remove that and to have the children given to the government for six hours a day, beyond six hours a day, six hours a day, plus whatever sports activities, which gives the government full control over the minds of the children.
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This came straight from the pale of settlement after they assassinated the czar.
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You had these Jewish women like Emma Goldman who came over to America.
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Emma Goldman was the mentor to what's her face from Planned Parenthood.
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I'm going to say Margaret, Margaret, Margaret Sanger.
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And so this was, in fact, a very radical communist movement that came to America and sought to overthrow families, family institutions, strong men, feminine women stands in the way of government and absolute control.
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In your book, Make Him a Sandwich, what are some of the things that you tell the women?
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Because I'm assuming it's a it's a book that's going to be centered around how women can kind of get in a marketplace, find a long term partner, get married.
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What are some of the strategies that you implement, that you tell women to implement to find a partner?
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I don't even try in my book to sell them a strategy or a technique.
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I give them the actual statistics of the fact that what was sold to you was you were going to be just like a man and you were going to be happier.
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Women are actually more miserable than they've ever been.
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If you go back and you ask most women about their grandmothers, they remember grandma being happy.
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So what they actually sold to you, now you've achieved this equality, quote unquote equality.
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And women have never been more miserable and women are popping more pills than they were popping and finding it harder to find a partner and wondering why.
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Well, it's because you attacked natural masculinity.
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You told men that they shouldn't be allowed to lead.
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You were convinced psychologically in a classroom, as I was back when I wanted to be a feminist or I thought feminism was cool.
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I think that that's how you change things without trying to say, here's a strategy and here's how we're going to move forward.
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And I think the rest of the stuff happens naturally, or I hope.
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For you on your journey, when did you, like, figure out that feminism was a lie?
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Like, was there a certain event that triggered it that you were like, holy crap, this is, this is, yes.
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I think it's in this book or it's in my last book, actually.
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Maybe it was Women's Studies 201 at the University of Rhode Island.
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And at that time, I was like, yeah, I'm a feminist, of course.
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And this teacher, I realized very quickly, was not actually motivated by wanting equality.
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She was, I was in a classroom where she was trying to convince me that every problem that we had in society was due to men.
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This was a literal class that was designed to basically teach women to hate men.
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Like, no matter, all you had to do to get an A was she would introduce any problem.
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Do you know who designed the whole concept of a car key and who designed the couch that you lost it in this morning?
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It was meant, it was, it became to a point where for me, it was like laughable.
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And, but there was this one particular class where it clicked for me.
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Because when I was in college, I had an eating disorder.
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So I was sitting in her class and I had, I was anorexic.
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And she gets into this topic of anorexia, eating disorders.
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And she gave us some statistic about the amount, the percentage of women that have eating disorders.
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And I'm making this up now, but it was something like 80% of people who have eating disorders are women.
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And we were supposed to say, and she did say, that it was because men control the advertising agency and men want women to be skinny.
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And I had literally, I'm sitting here having this experience, nothing to do with a man.
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Like nothing, no man said, you're fat, you have to be skinny.
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And I'm listening to her try to psychologically convince me that my eating disorder came from a man when it just factually didn't.
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Most people who suffer with anorexia know it's a control mechanism.
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It actually has nothing even to do with weight.
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It just is like, this is the one thing you can control.
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How many, what percentage of people are juicing up with steroids, right?
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If we said that 90% of it was men, would you have presented to the class that it was because of women, right?
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Because women are telling them they have to look like this.
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And she was, I mean, when I say she went white and she said to me,
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and I always tell the story on stage, she said to me,
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I feel like you were sent to me from the men's department.
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I told her that I told her, I told her back, but I was sent to her from the common sense department.
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And that everything couldn't be because of men.
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So I think that was kind of the first time that it clicked for me that this was some sort of a psychological program.
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Yeah, it was first, it was the first year of college.
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I just was like in the back of my mind, same way that I was liberal.
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Like I was never voting Democrat, but if you had asked me, what do you think about this?
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I'm going to very quickly have been like, of course we need feminism.
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And then I was kind of thinking, man, these women are really annoying in this classroom.
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Because then there were the majors that were there, you know, the people, these women that were tatted up and like growing their armpit hair out.
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You know, we had those people in class and I was like, I don't like any of these people.
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So it made me think that there was something more to the feminist movement, I think, which was indoctrination.
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So I think you've been able to do what every woman dreams of.
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Have a family, have children, have your dream man, but simultaneously being able to also, you know, run a business and do what you want to do.
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And I noticed when you were debating on Jubilee, some of them tried to say, oh, well, you're a hypocrite.
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You're over here talking about feminism being bad, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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But, you know, you obviously have a lot of things set up where you maximize your ability to be with your family, right?
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You do your show, get out of there, spend time with your family.
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What would you say to the people that sit there and try to call you a hypocrite because, you know, you're successful in your own right, but you've been able to also balance a family, which many women can't do.
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First and foremost, do not allow people to rule you by exceptions.
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What I mean by that is it is such a mistake to look at my life and to say, Candice did this, and so therefore I can do this.
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I get to do a podcast from home, and I am actually doing something that I enjoy, right?
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If you find any woman that makes it and she's successful, what is she doing?
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If you have a daughter and a son, you know this.
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Girls start speaking faster, and we will speak more words from men for the rest of our lives.
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And when you actually look, and I ask people in this chapter, who is the most, if I ask you the question right now, who is the most successful man in the world?
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I was going to say, like, from a financial perspective?
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If I said who's the most successful man in the world, who would you say?
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I mean, you could say, like, the richest guy in the world who would be Elon, even though it pains me to say that.
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Something based on meritocracy, finances, and status.
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If I ask you who is the most successful woman in the world, what would you say?
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Like, off the top of your mind, like, what are the names that come to your mind?
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Yeah, it's an ambiguous, like, you're like, okay, well, are we going to go off career?
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But most people would say, like, Taylor Swift or Oprah.
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These women are nowhere near the richest women in the world.
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Nobody knows the name of the richest woman in the world.
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I'm like, these are the names that you would say off the top of your head if I asked you who was the most successful.
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Nobody knows, everybody knows the names of the most, the richest men in the world.
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And yet nobody knows the names of the richest women in the world, right?
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And the women that you do name actually all tapped into their femininity.
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Taylor Swift was writing songs about relationships.
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Oprah was communicating to the housewife, right?
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They're tapping in, actually, to the one thing that, actually, you think they're standing against.
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But they tap into their femininity and found success, actually.
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And women do not, when we think about success, we don't measure it in terms of finances.
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That's why these women, we think, are the most, quote-unquote, successful women in the world.
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So I do a chapter, and I speak about that in my book, about who the richest woman in the world is.
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And then the next 10 women who are the richest in the world are all rich because of who they divorced, right?
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So what is the picture that we're recognizing here?
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We don't measure success in the same terms as men measure success, nor should we.
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And it's important for women not to think that becoming financially rich somehow means that you are successful or that you have triumphed something in life.
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And since having children, how has that shifted your priorities as far as, and you can go into as much detail, as little as you want, as far as how you've kind of prioritized child rearing versus maybe your career and doing social media as much?
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Because I noticed before you were super, super active.
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I would say having kids made me more secure than ever before.
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Once you have kids, you have actually a real stake in the future of America.
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So when I am podcasting, the subjects that I am covering to me are existential, right?
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Are we being ruled by pedophiles and criminals?
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This is now existential because my children will inherit the America that I fight for or the America that I remain silent about.
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And just to kind of finish off with the feminism real quick.
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So what do you think are the top three things holding women back from fulfillment and happiness right now?
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The number one thing I would say that's holding women back would be not understanding the history of feminism, I think.
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I think once you know that everything, like knowledge is actually power.
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However, I would say the second thing that's holding them back is the psychology of peer pressure.
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And that is the psychology and the peer pressure starts when we are in school with women being told you have to go to college, you have to have a career.
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The last thing you should be thinking about, you have plenty of time.
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Biologically speaking, you literally don't have plenty of time.
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Men might have plenty of time, biologically speaking, but your body is telling you you don't.
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And so I think and then that kind of gets into the education, the education system truly is just Soviet propaganda in the classrooms.
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And so they're ignoring their gut instinct and following the herd.
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So understanding what feminism is and how it came into place makes it a lot easier to understand everything else.
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What do you think so far about this switch in politics?
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What do you think so far about this administration with Trump?
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Honestly, the first thing that I would say is that it makes me sad because obviously I spent a lot of time helping Trump get elected, trying to help Trump get elected.
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Yeah. He's a part of my political story. Right.
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A part of my political awakening, if you want to call it that.
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What Epstein files, you know, are we still talking about the Epstein files?
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We did everything we could and we were supposed to be fighting with Swallop.
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And then what happened with the Loch Ness Monster, which is Israel, rose up and and swallowed our hero whole.
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So it makes me sad. And I think we all can very clearly see what has happened on the basis of who is now supporting him.
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The literal never Trump movement is now supporting Trump.
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And telling us that we're radicals, the people who initially supported Trump.
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So it's there's been a complete flip and they're trying to use this mechanism of psychology to convince us, oh, we just got here.
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But we noticed this rot, which is the original MAGA movement.
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But I think it also indicates to us that there is something very scary and sinister that is in D.C., right?
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That turns good men like it like petrifies good men that go in maybe with the best of intentions and then they see something else.
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We don't know where is I mean, day in and day out.
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Cash Patel and Dan were saying we're going to do this.
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There's nothing here, actually, to see about these Epstein files.
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You kind of made your show off of what we need to happen with the Epstein files.
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So if you were to rate them because people have asked me this question, so now I get to ask someone else.
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What grade would you give them right now at this point based on, you know, obviously the Epstein files?
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It's going to probably be a huge negative in his legacy at the end of the day.
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If you had to grade his presidency so far within 11 months in roughly, what would you say?
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So if you're asking me to grade, you know how you would have those teachers where if you would take a test and they would automatically flunk you if you didn't put your name on the paper?
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The Epstein thing for me is like automatic flunk if you don't put your name on the paper.
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So like I'm a mom now, so this was the most important thing to me was figuring out where the pedophiles are in our society.
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And that was your number one voting that this for me, like becoming a mother, because you have to remember Epstein, I did a partial series, a miniseries on what we discovered about him.
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He just got pulled to the ranks, right, bankrupted Americans.
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Same thing with the Maxwell family, bankrupted people in England and was allowed to do this.
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He had an office on Harvard campus despite only having a high school diploma, which I can't even verify his high school diploma, if I'm being honest with you.
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And we were this was going to show us everything.
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He had some notorious fight with Harvey Weinstein right before Harvey went down.
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So now I'm kind of going back in my mind and thinking that's a question I should probably ask.
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Harvey Weinstein is what they were fighting about.
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I mean, this man was just handed the keys to Les Wexner's empire, which even how that empire started has got a shady story with a guy who said that Les Wexner was a literal devil.
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He was the guy who controlled Victoria's Secret.
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And then suddenly that guy jumps off the Golden Gate Bridge and decides to give his company to Les Wexner.
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So we had this rare opportunity to really understand how the matrix was put together, in my view.
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And Trump took us to this line and then balked.
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Maybe it's because he almost survived his assassination attempt.
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And maybe they put him in a room and said, here's how it's going to go.
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So I try not I'm going to try not to judge him because I don't know what he is going through.
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But for me, the Epstein files was a name on the paper.
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They're, you know, in the process right now of getting everything classified.
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I understand that there were a bunch of emails that came out, you know, and it's coming back up again.
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I can tell because I'm seeing nothing but CNN clips on it.
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Anytime they love to hit Trump when it comes to this Epstein thing, what are your thoughts on the latest information that came out recently with the emails and everything else like that?
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When he initially balked on discussing Epstein and Pam Bondi did the whole crazy bit, I was told that it was because there was donors he was protecting.
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I have never felt and I'm a pretty good vibe person.
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So the nature of the emails, was he at a party when people should just think about that?
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People say, oh, they exchange like he was on his plane, never on the island, but like was on the plane.
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If you were at a party, I mean, you live in Miami.
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If you were at a party, the idea that somebody could be at any club that you are at or any party that you are at has somebody that's underage and looks like she could be 18.
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And that doesn't really track to me as any evidence of anything other than the fact that he was at a party once and Jeffrey Epstein was very clearly running a sophisticated network and a blackmail ring.
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So I don't think that whatever they have on Epstein with Trump and Epstein is going to implicate Trump in any of that stuff.
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And I have never felt that vibe from him at all.
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But I do think he's protecting some of his donors.
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I do believe that because they I look at them and they just creep me out.
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And he took a lot of money from Miriam Adelson, the Adelson family, hundreds of millions of dollars from Miriam Adelson.
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And I think that's kind of the beginning of everything.
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So when they started leaking these emails, I read it as like a public threat to him.
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Maybe they're arguing about something in the background and he's holding a line on something.
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So they because they obviously have all the Epstein stuff.
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And so if people don't listen, they probably do a little trickle.
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I read it as like a public threat and they want something from him and they're going to be like capitulate or we will hit you with everything they have.
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And we need to have a leader that says just comes right out in a press conference and says they have this about me.
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I'm going to tell them to release everything and I'm going to hold the line.
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We'll be like, OK, like as long as you're not implicated in harming children, I can deal with you being at a party that Epstein was at and finding out that whatever it is that they have on you.
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That's my that's my gut instinct about the whole thing.
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Yeah, no, I agree with you that I think I don't he doesn't give me the vibe that he's like, you know, doing that type of thing with children.
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But I do think that maybe there's something in there that looks really bad optically.
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And that's might be why or to protect donors, like you said, because I look at it like if there was something really bad like that.
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The Democrats would have exposed that during Biden administration if there really was.
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So, you know, that's that's another thing as well.
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Speaking of the Zionist lobby, we're talking about Mary Maddelson and Epstein and everything else like that.
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Last time we spoke, you were literally like a week or two before you left Daily Wire.
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Or it's been a while now. And obviously, a lot of things have transpired, right?
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Meanwhile, your opposition, Ben Shapiro, has had a meteoric downfall.
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Can you kind of take me through that day of what happened when because I remember you had been in Miami for a bit.
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And then I think you might have went back to Daily Wire for like a day or two.
00:25:36.940
And then they said, hey, we're going to get ready to be blah, blah, blah.
00:25:39.240
Can you kind of take me through how that all transpired and how you've been able to kind of use that cancellation from their perspective?
00:25:45.520
To just utterly destroy them and flip the rules.
00:25:56.000
I was even if I sensed it was coming, I would have never have thought that it would have happened in the way that it happened.
00:26:02.240
I would have thought that we would do everything that we can to keep things friendly.
00:26:06.700
I mean, you don't want to work for any company.
00:26:08.500
It's just unprofessional to want to work to dedicate years of your life to any company and not have things.
00:26:12.920
Even if they're not on great terms, you still want to make it as peaceful as possible.
00:26:16.880
TMZ reported, and I have to ask you this because I've always been wanting to ask you this.
00:26:19.980
They reported that the reason, one of the reasons why they wanted to get rid of you is because you did the show with us.
00:26:25.340
And when we talked about Jews, we hit the sound effect, the cha-ching sound effect.
00:26:28.720
And that, I guess, that infuriated Ben Shapiro.
00:26:36.480
And it came, gosh, am I allowed to say anything about this?
00:26:50.740
I can neither confirm or deny whether or not that is true.
00:26:55.000
But what I will say is I would have never expected that sort of a PR.
00:27:00.520
I mean, it was just, it's just the opposite of the way that I am.
00:27:06.140
I have obviously very, a lot of disagreements with them now.
00:27:09.580
But I had a very peaceful working relationship with them.
00:27:14.160
Like, when I think about them now and what their contributions are to what we're fighting,
00:27:19.060
I could never go back and say, like, one bad word about how they treated me.
00:27:22.260
They were really good employers and very communicative.
00:27:26.940
I mean, I think my contract with PragerU was like two pages.
00:27:31.660
Marissa never even wanted to talk about contracts.
00:27:33.400
She's like, if we ever have to talk about the contract, she was like, you should probably
00:27:35.420
leave because, like, I don't want you here if you're not happy.
00:27:38.760
Obviously had a very great relationship with Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA.
00:27:42.700
So I, for me, having never had any sort of a debacle ever in my life in terms of working
00:27:56.020
And I didn't know if we were going to survive it.
00:27:58.860
Genuinely, my husband and I, it felt like you are just, it's like trench warfare.
00:28:04.480
You're not even thinking about the implications.
00:28:06.120
It's like, I just have to put one foot in front of the other and fight, fight, fight,
00:28:09.920
And I am, I, I, first and foremost, just grateful to God, grateful to God that my husband was
00:28:20.140
I think if my husband had shown even a fraction of apprehension, fear, anything, I probably
00:28:28.060
And this, again, gets back to the importance of marriage because there are, there are things
00:28:34.020
Like I, I was good on the, on the psychology games of what they were trying to do.
00:28:37.760
But in terms of just getting down in and building the infrastructure and like, okay, we need
00:28:48.600
I mean, even because my team came with me, which was something that was also a huge blessing.
00:28:52.420
I'm so grateful to my team because I went to them and I was like, I don't know if this
00:29:00.220
So if you leave the comfort of where you are, you are taking a risk and we don't know where
00:29:06.040
And also we're like being banned from society also.
00:29:08.860
So the chances of his podcast working when we're banned from everywhere, uh, even YouTube
00:29:15.820
And they took, they were just like, we're, we're coming with you.
00:29:18.620
So to look back on that, it's just a tremendous amount of gratitude and appreciation for the
00:29:24.960
audience, my team, and first and foremost, my husband, you know?
00:29:29.560
So he helped you through that, through that process.
00:29:31.180
Cause yeah, I remember like it was all over the place and, you know, obviously there was
00:29:34.400
enormous amount of pressure, but you were able to use that to your favor.
00:29:40.160
And you know, obviously this topic is a very controversial topic when it comes to Zionism,
00:29:48.760
What is, what red pilled you on this topic that made you say, I got to speak up, even
00:29:53.780
though this is a very taboo topic, you can get, you know, like you said, deal with demonization,
00:29:59.880
Or what made you say, I got to speak up on this?
00:30:04.200
And I think people don't realize that that's real.
00:30:06.960
Like, I think people who are atheists don't understand that a part of this whole psych
00:30:12.540
operation was to make you an atheist, because if you knew for certain that when you die,
00:30:18.220
there is more, which there is, you would be living your life differently, right?
00:30:23.980
And so at the very moment that I know anything is true, I can't tell a lie, right?
00:30:30.780
So when I was working, and giving the example again for PragerU, I genuinely, first off,
00:30:39.560
There was no pressure on me to get out there and say things that are pro-Israel.
00:30:43.480
I just genuinely believed it in the same way that I tell people Charlie Kirk just believed
00:30:48.320
He just was like, yeah, Israel, I'm a Christian.
00:30:50.420
And, uh, obviously Israel has biblical, um, connotations.
00:30:56.620
And so I, I'm, I support Israel almost like it's a periphery.
00:31:04.800
And people who, who attack that and assume that everyone's in on an agenda should stop
00:31:10.260
At the moment that it kind of became a, and I would say after October 7th, they were kind
00:31:14.700
of demanding that you take a side, I watched Bassem Youssef.
00:31:20.180
This, this was truly the mental turning point for me.
00:31:23.000
He went on to Piers Morgan and it went viral and he held up this paper where he showed how
00:31:28.220
many deaths there were every year of Palestinians versus Israelis.
00:31:38.940
It was just kind of using humor, which is the best tool and being like, so what's the
00:31:45.440
So I'm going, okay, so I'm supposed to believe these are the evil people, but this is how
00:31:50.360
And then I had Norm Finkelstein on my show at the Daily Wire because I was like, let
00:31:54.380
me go to someone who actually is not an anti-Semite, right?
00:31:58.140
His parents survived the Holocaust and he's a professor who was denied tenure for a ridiculous
00:32:03.180
reason because he is committed to telling the truth about Gaza and he wrote so many books
00:32:10.520
So that like red pilled you on the topic, like seeing the deaths and everything.
00:32:12.920
Cause no one ever sees like the Palestinian perspective.
00:32:15.240
Cause it's like almost like in America, well, especially if you're a conservative, the default
00:32:18.920
setting is we support Israel unequivocally every single time.
00:32:23.760
So, uh, and I've said that too, like October 7th kind of opened up this discussion.
00:32:27.620
Whereas like, I remember before it, like, if you talked about it, you would get demonetized
00:32:30.940
That's what got me demonetized was, was that topic, especially before October 7th.
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I remember you had debated, uh, a rabbi forget.
00:33:58.420
And he was like, you can't even say, what was it?
00:34:05.700
And I think that was one of your last, um, debates you did on daily wire too.
00:34:08.800
I think you were still on the daily wire there.
00:34:10.280
Did Ben ever like have a conversation with you about this?
00:34:12.620
If you could disclose it, like he just like never talked to you.
00:34:18.840
Cause I remember seeing a clip of him, like at some type of social gathering, like late
00:34:23.760
in the year of that year saying, oh yeah, I think what she's doing is, you know, despicable
00:34:34.820
And that's, uh, we never had a private, we never had a conversation after that.
00:34:39.580
So he didn't even have the decency to like figure out, Hey, you know, what's going on
00:34:49.780
Um, so, so you got banned from Australia, right?
00:35:00.640
Cause I, I taught people try to tell me like, um, you know, cause I talk about world jewelry
00:35:04.780
being a thing and how, you know, it's a international cabal that works together, you know, for the
00:35:08.960
betterment of Israel and they're located all across the world.
00:35:11.280
And I use that example of how they got you literally banned in Australia, even though they
00:35:22.260
I was going to tour in Australia and the Zionist lobby found out and they publicly posted, it
00:35:29.360
was like the Zionist organization of Australia.
00:35:40.600
And I will say on the conservative side of Australia, the Jewish conservatives did also
00:35:47.860
write a letter in support of me saying like, we disagree with her, but she should be allowed
00:35:52.260
But they were effectively the ADL and they posted this thing and publicly said that I
00:36:01.440
They lied and said that I said that Jews, what did they say that I said that Jews drink
00:36:08.000
the blood of children, which was, it's just like completely.
00:36:13.780
I mean, the way that that came about was me liking a tweet, literally a like of a tweet
00:36:18.300
of a person who called out Rabbi Shmuley and said, Rabbi Shmuley had told a huge lie about
00:36:24.580
So they were replying to Rabbi Shmuley and said, you didn't include that she, and then
00:36:31.760
And then they ended their thing with, are you drunk on Christian blood again?
00:36:35.160
And so me liking this tweet, they went full, they went full media press court.
00:36:45.820
Like this person debunked Rabbi Shmuley's lie, but this is how they lie.
00:36:52.100
Even if it's hyperbole or whatever, it's like, oh, look at you, vile anti-Semite.
00:36:55.940
And I'm like, obviously, I like this tweet because he defended, like he pointed out that
00:36:59.580
Rabbi Shmuley told a ridiculous lie that had nothing to do with anything.
00:37:02.700
He said that my followers threatened to kill him or something, something very serious.
00:37:12.180
And so, yeah, it was quite a time, but they successfully got me banned.
00:37:18.460
I've never been in trouble, nothing, and they decided that I am too dangerous to speak in
00:37:23.420
So that I still think, and this has been my belief, everything that is happening, God wants
00:37:30.760
So when that happened, it was because Australians needed to understand something about their
00:37:35.040
country because people who didn't like me, who didn't support me or weren't conservative
00:37:40.200
in their country kind of looked up and went, why is this like mom of four being banned from
00:37:46.180
No matter what I think about her, I certainly don't think she's a threat, that she shouldn't
00:37:50.060
And we've got literally people who have been accused of murder, people who have violated
00:37:56.140
their visas in other countries, people that rap about murder are allowed in here.
00:37:59.900
And you're telling me she's saying something that's so dangerous.
00:38:02.920
And it, I think, contributed to more people listening to my podcast.
00:38:07.340
So I do feel we are in this time where the more that they lie, it rebounds very quickly
00:38:15.700
onto them and it creates more pressure against them and they can't stop lying.
00:38:20.100
So yeah, because you can never lie once, right?
00:38:22.140
Like they always say when you lie once, then you have to keep lying to perpetuate that same
00:38:29.400
And then you were able to get, how'd you go about being allowed to come back to New Zealand?
00:38:34.640
No, actually their person, so they have a reciprocal system, which is weird, but if
00:38:39.660
Australia bans you, you get automatically banned in New Zealand.
00:38:44.600
Tony Burke in Australia bans me and they have some weird reciprocal system.
00:38:48.000
Then when they found out their minister and his name was Chris something, I should remember
00:38:57.960
So New Zealand actually stood firm on free speech.
00:39:01.600
So like basically when one party does something, the other one kind of reciprocates it, but
00:39:07.780
What other ways I guess has the Zionist lobby came after you?
00:39:16.600
They did the lobby to get you demonetized on YouTube too.
00:39:21.940
Uh, the awesome Jew, which who was in attendance, by the way, when Charlie got peer oppression
00:39:25.940
in the Hamptons and yeah, it was just a full court.
00:39:30.220
They were like, just start report mass reporting her for violence and violent rhetoric.
00:39:36.640
And then I got, I had no strikes and then I went to all strikes overnight and YouTube
00:39:43.900
I think it was like September, maybe it was four months.
00:39:48.480
And so that was, can't make any money on YouTube.
00:39:52.480
So we had to, yeah, we had to then build our own website, which we did.
00:39:58.080
So what it forces you to do is to kind of, to become your own power center, right?
00:40:02.580
If you ban people everywhere and you say, you can't, you know, you're not allowed to fight
00:40:05.960
in this realm, we're going to start building our own realms.
00:40:08.000
And I think they're learning that lesson is that there seems to be the opposite thing that's
00:40:11.920
So they, yeah, they would attack us on YouTube.
00:40:15.380
They obviously got a petition to get me fired, banned from Australia.
00:40:19.660
They went after like my family members, obviously.
00:40:23.940
They tried to pretend that there was all this friction between me and my husband's father.
00:40:32.180
They, they have always treated me very well, but they wanted that narrative out there because
00:40:35.820
it was part of the cancellation is even the whole family hates her.
00:40:47.780
There's nothing wrong with having disagreements.
00:40:50.040
And I'm just thinking, whatever, what else they attacked is, it's just, it's been nonstop.
00:40:54.580
And then of course the lawsuits, you know, nonstop legal lawfare.
00:40:58.200
So right now, you know, between you, Tucker, Nick, they're attacking all three of you guys
00:41:05.760
saying, oh, you guys are anti-Semites and you guys are pushing this whole thing.
00:41:08.980
And I, and I give credit because you three have done an incredible job of, you know,
00:41:13.340
awaring the American public on this topic when it comes to Israel's control of the Middle
00:41:17.820
East, what they're doing over there, how they've been able to get away with this for
00:41:22.740
And, you know, they've been targeting you guys quite a bit.
00:41:26.520
And I see that, you know, there's been a bunch of drama with Megyn Kelly and Ben Shapiro and
00:41:32.300
What are your thoughts on the entire, on the situation?
00:41:34.380
Cause like, you know, anytime they mentioned Tucker, you're right there.
00:41:38.520
So yeah, even BB Netanyahu name checking us was crazy on the tick tock thing and why
00:41:45.540
They're letting, you know, this is a psychological operation.
00:41:49.120
They've gone mask down and it just, they've just come more inward.
00:41:54.000
I have no idea why they kept attaching me to Tucker Carlson.
00:41:56.580
They wanted both of us gone and they loves you.
00:42:05.340
And then they realized, oh, we don't, we can't control them.
00:42:07.640
And we started having to build our own power centers and they didn't like that.
00:42:13.680
So, and then with the Nick Fuentes thing, I promise you, I had never heard the Nick Fuentes backstory
00:42:19.280
until after I was fired from Daily Wire, there was this Twitter audio or X audio space that
00:42:26.180
he did with Jeremy Boring, who at that time was the CEO of Daily Wire.
00:42:33.100
Nobody can look at that backstory of what happened to him and not realize that it was
00:42:45.480
You're like, no matter how I feel about him, I root for him against the Zionist lobby.
00:42:51.060
And this rule that you can't speak to Nick, why can't I speak to Nick?
00:42:55.200
Can't my audience decide whether or not they want to listen to him?
00:42:57.600
There's this false idea of platforming him that somehow that's going to be harmful and
00:43:05.920
If I platform him and Nick seems likable, right?
00:43:10.740
And then he goes on his show and he says horrific things.
00:43:17.340
They're actually then going to have questions about me.
00:43:25.000
If people are following that idea, that is on the people.
00:43:28.740
And they are smart enough to make their own decisions.
00:43:30.680
I don't need to tell people to listen to Nick, to not listen to Nick, to platform Nick,
00:43:37.260
If I don't want to talk to Nick, I don't talk to Nick.
00:43:38.760
And there's something about the true free markets that Zionists can't stand.
00:43:43.080
They're constantly manipulating the markets so that people think that they are number one
00:43:47.940
They actually require censorship in order for them to be number one.
00:43:53.420
And, you know, seeing Ben Shapiro have a meltdown, you know, they had the Republican
00:43:58.500
Jewish coalition a couple of weeks ago and just saying like, oh, these people are platforming,
00:44:02.980
I find it interesting how like they never like because when you guys if you actually listen
00:44:07.620
to the interviews that you guys do a lot of the times, it's like, oh, this makes perfect
00:44:14.700
Like they always criticize you guys directly saying they're pushing anti-Semitism.
00:44:21.080
And then we want to have the discussion, the debate or anything.
00:44:24.160
Because when you hear Nick's backstory, it's compelling.
00:44:28.620
I actually haven't gotten around to watching his interview with Tucker.
00:44:30.420
It's on my to-do list this weekend, but I'm assuming he told his backstory and then people
00:44:35.040
look at it and go, what is up with the science lobby that they're going after 18 year old
00:44:41.760
That's actually what they're fearful of is people understanding just how long this has
00:44:46.460
been going on, how vicious it is that it will even go after an 18 year old who's just
00:44:59.040
And, you know, I credit you, Tucker, Nick, some of the biggest voices in it, like waking
00:45:04.780
people up to this problem that we've had for so long, right?
00:45:08.380
And I do think that we're making an impact on it because when I remember when Trump bombed
00:45:12.400
Iran, he had a lot of pressure on him not to do it, right?
00:45:17.740
I know Steve Bannon had like went to the White House and told him, don't do it or at least
00:45:21.800
And he bombed him and then he ended it there, right?
00:45:23.980
Who knows if, you know, if he didn't have that pressure from his base to not go to war.
00:45:27.860
If he had, it would have expanded the conflict because we know Israel wanted to, right?
00:45:31.180
If this was like 2003, who knows if we wouldn't have just gotten into like a full on war.
00:45:34.660
But I think big voice in social media that we didn't have back in 03 were able to kind
00:45:41.280
Like, and then it kind of forced him to like, I want to keep the base.
00:45:44.380
All right, just bomb him and get out of here because that was even very unpopular.
00:45:47.100
And then you saw the neocons go, oh, you were, you were panicking.
00:45:51.500
You guys were just panicking and it was just one response.
00:45:53.660
You thought there was going to be a broader war.
00:45:55.500
And John Miller put it quite succinctly on, he tweeted and he said, no, it's because we
00:46:01.560
panicked and freaked out that this didn't happen.
00:46:03.560
This is like saying robbers outside, you're trying to rob your house.
00:46:07.800
Your dogs start barking and the robber goes away and they're like, oh, you were just panicking.
00:46:11.480
It's like, no, it's because the dogs were barking that this thing didn't happen.
00:46:14.680
So no, every time we, you are, which by the way, he still wants, he still wants his war
00:46:20.660
They still want a regime change in Iran and we have to continue to bark and continue to
00:46:25.660
And it worked because we held the line on it and use our platforms to say, this is like,
00:46:32.420
And he, he literally was very ambiguous about it for days.
00:46:35.980
So, and I think a big part of that is from all the pressure from his base with people that
00:46:40.260
And this is kind of a beautiful thing where we have with alternate media.
00:46:43.280
Cause I remember, and you, you remember too, we're around the same age, the Iraq war, there
00:46:48.800
And we don't, you know, there was no, no one else talking about it.
00:46:54.000
And it wasn't until 10, 15 years later that the smoke evaporated and we're like, oh, this
00:46:59.000
Why did we go to, Salam has nothing to do with bin Laden.
00:47:03.340
So let me ask you about, I guess real quick with Harvey Weinstein, what, what had you, what
00:47:07.760
got you interested in like getting his story out there?
00:47:09.720
So actually I started working on the Harvey Weinstein documentary when I was at the Daily
00:47:14.800
So they, somebody on his team reached out to me cause they thought that I would be the
00:47:18.940
only person that would look at this fairly, which is interesting.
00:47:22.140
Cause obviously he and I, and he's gave millions to the ADL, you know what I'm saying?
00:47:27.220
So we were this very unlikely duo and I thought he was guilty.
00:47:31.740
I mean, there were so many women that were coming out, but this is how the media is effective
00:47:35.300
at psychology is that they know if they say something over and over again, it becomes true.
00:47:38.880
And actually I realized I didn't know anything about the case.
00:47:43.640
There was no question that Harvey Weinstein should not be in prison right now.
00:47:47.160
And that that's the definition of me too, right there.
00:47:52.960
That part still is not clear to me, but it should terrify any woman, especially me who
00:48:00.440
I think me too, what it represented was hostile takeovers of company of companies.
00:48:05.720
If you start to go back, you look at from Michael Jackson to Kanye to Britney Spears.
00:48:15.000
And I think me too was a proliferation where they hostily took over a bunch of companies.
00:48:25.380
I actually do now have it on my mind that I want to ask him about this argument he had
00:48:30.200
A, I was very passionate about just telling the truth because the Me Too movement is problematic.
00:48:39.640
So I don't care what people think or need to think.
00:48:46.320
I'm not voting for him to be the president of the United States.
00:48:49.720
I'm telling you that he was accused of something and the media completely lied to you about the
00:48:55.840
And it should terrify you because it means that our courts are corrupted.
00:49:04.160
Maybe through the same system of blackmail, you've got judge, they've got judges in their
00:49:07.200
pockets, but there is, um, that's a part of the matrix.
00:49:12.000
And I give you credit because, you know, you've, uh, you're very brave for doing that because
00:49:15.300
just like with the George Floyd documentary that you did, which was going against the grain,
00:49:19.900
Uh, a lot of people gave you a, you know, slack for that.
00:49:22.700
Like, Oh, why are you interviewing this, you know, pervert and why are you going ahead
00:49:26.220
and, you know, trying to destroy the legacy of George Floyd?
00:49:28.980
So, you know, I give you a lot of credit for like, cause I do think that this whole, like,
00:49:32.520
you know, me too situation and false accusations, it's very real.
00:49:36.600
You know, athletes and professionals are constantly getting accused of stuff.
00:49:39.720
I mean, we can look at what's going on with Andrew Tate where, you know, it's like
00:49:42.820
every other month, you know, something is getting dropped or a loss is being dropped here
00:49:46.620
or they're finding out that this woman lied here or the, I, there was a, I think a pro soccer
00:49:50.560
player that recently got out after having his life destroyed.
00:49:53.260
So like this me too thing is a huge problem in the, in the Western world.
00:49:57.760
Um, so let me ask you this with, uh, Charlie Kirk, cause, uh, you're definitely one of the
00:50:02.640
most outspoken people, um, when it comes to the Charlie Kirk investigation and what's going
00:50:08.580
on there, obviously you knew him personally, you guys have worked together for many years.
00:50:12.560
Um, I'll kind of just turn it to you and you can just tell me, cause you've been looking
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at this for a while now, it's almost too, yeah, it's over two months now.
00:50:18.520
Um, can you take us through what you think happened on that day?
00:50:24.620
And, uh, the timeline in general, who you think is actually responsible, uh, you know,
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who might be covering things up and everything like that.
00:50:32.000
So I can tell you that I view the Charlie Kirk assassination as a military hit.
00:50:38.000
I do not know who called the hit yet, but it's, it's military.
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There's no question in my mind that it was a military.
00:50:46.340
Well, I think I don't view the U S military as being controlled by the U S.
00:50:52.860
I mean, there's, uh, there are a lot of people you can, we've been globalized for a very long
00:50:58.660
Um, I don't know that there's a difference in there's decisions that are made in Ukraine
00:51:05.200
I mean, this is the tentacles of the U S military, um, it's a much broader and longer
00:51:12.440
I mean, I think since JFK was assassinating, I don't know who's in control of anything,
00:51:16.420
Much of what we see in the political realm is just an illusion.
00:51:19.280
We're talking about what's happening in Congress and decisions are made in boardrooms.
00:51:23.140
In my view with Charlie, I think that with everything that I have uncovered, there was very
00:51:30.320
clearly an, a faith infiltration that happened.
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And I'm, I'm putting faith in quotation marks because Charlie would have believed the people
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that came to him and told him to grow the organization and, you know, to become the boots
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He cared very deeply about his faith and the characters, the cast of characters and the
00:51:52.620
pastors that are around him, rotten, like very rotten.
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And what it's looking like is that that Calvary Chapel, uh, has been accused of tons in the
00:52:10.460
past and also accused of hostily taking over, uh, well-meaning faith organizations and ministries,
00:52:17.060
uh, with Rob McCoy at the center of these, of some of these scandals, it's looking to me
00:52:23.080
like turning points apparatus provided an opportunity.
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Now who they're actually working for, what they're actually doing.
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I don't know, but I can tell you it is not about Jesus Christ.
00:52:36.720
And this would explain why for some unknown reason, Christian Zionist influencers have
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been losing their minds about the idea of investigating the Charlie Kirk assassination.
00:52:49.660
Like I looked up and I'm going, why are Christian Zionists trying to use Bible verses to say
00:52:58.580
The first thing you do when there's been a murder is to look around at the money, the
00:53:08.640
Like, and then you pair that with the actual impossible things that they are telling us.
00:53:17.520
His neck just stopped a 30 odd six from 150 yards away.
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It was, it was just your, your modern Christian miracle, you know, that's bed slop, but it's
00:53:30.720
People using the Bible to psychologically convince you, you know, there were Jesus performed miracles
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I consider it a clue that they are lying about where Charlie was at in terms of his faith
00:53:50.460
They lied about the fact that he had said, I have no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel
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I just watched them all lie because I needed to see where all the stakes were.
00:54:01.640
The one thing that connects all of these lies is faith.
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So that's where the focus of my investigation is right now.
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And I'm coming up looking and going, all of these characters are dirty that were around
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So you're not going to hold up a Bible like a false prophet and tell me not to look here
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And if anybody is using the Bible to tell you not to pursue truth, you are dealing with
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Who do you think, I guess, I know you said the people around him, but who do you think
00:54:39.880
I think Charlie was not allowed to be anything but a Christian Zionist.
00:54:50.660
I, when I look at the timeline that I put together, some weird stuff, this Egyptian plane that was
00:54:56.480
started tracking him began, everything began ratcheting up after Tucker Carlson hit the
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So I, I think Charlie was done as he, as Megan showed the video, he was telling Tucker to
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go max, all of the things that they lied about, we've now proven.
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You only lie because you have something to cover up.
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No matter, no matter what the lie is, is you only lie because there's something that you're
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hiding. So if they had all come out right when Charlie died, if Seth Dillon, who pressed
00:55:36.240
Charlie in the Hamptons was like, oh my gosh, my biggest regret is the last time I saw Charlie,
00:55:44.040
And this is a reminder that you never know when you're going to see somebody last.
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It'd have been like, oh, okay, nothing to see here.
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It was like a full court press effort to lie about everything.
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He was on the text message chain where Charlie said 48 hours before he died that he was done
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And I don't like the silence from Turning Point employees.
00:56:07.940
I know for a fact one of them, I'm not going to name, has a text message from Charlie the
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day before he died saying they are going to kill me.
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Now he was not referring to the trans lobby when he wrote that message.
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If you are his friend and you're interested in the truth, why wouldn't you tell the public
00:56:29.560
that, wouldn't you just come right out to the public and say, hey, I don't know what
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happened, but like Charlie thought they were going to kill him.
00:56:36.380
I do not like the way Turning Point is behaving.
00:56:41.420
And nobody is going to emotionally manipulate me and tell me that it's all good now.
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And to attack Turning Point would be to attack his legacy.
00:56:50.940
Charlie told me years ago that he had, which I shared the messages.
00:56:55.240
He was having a ton of visions and was telling me that he, Turning Point was going to be the
00:56:58.780
He knew he was going to die young and strangely knew that I was going to be the only person
00:57:06.500
They tried to say it was fake and you pulled it up and yeah.
00:57:08.460
So it's, it's, it's, we're here, we're here now and I'm going to defend him.
00:57:14.220
What are your thoughts on, um, how Erica Kirk has been dealing with this and some of the
00:57:18.720
people that are close to him, um, his manager, uh, Mike and all them, like, do you think
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That's some of the people in his closest circle.
00:57:28.160
It is obvious to me that Mikey McCoy was the person that they wanted to launch as the
00:57:35.500
The way they brought his YouTube channel back with a speech from Mikey and everyone was kind
00:57:47.520
And you're brought in by Rob, your dad, who is dirty.
00:57:51.200
I mean, very dirty guy covered more of that yesterday.
00:57:53.640
Um, he just gives me the sleaze and the ick and it just is very strange that they, I felt
00:57:59.800
like they tried to manipulate us into accepting this almost like they had like, Mikey's going
00:58:05.460
Then we see Mikey, he's a hero and he just walks away right after somebody like, that
00:58:12.180
And, um, yeah, you know, with Erica, a lot of people on the internet have been going into
00:58:19.640
her past, going into her parents' past and, you know, just speaking about these things.
00:58:23.240
Israel defense contractors, parents, stuff like that.
00:58:28.160
And what I've said to everybody is I'm starting with what happened on that day, what happened
00:58:32.020
leading up to his, um, assassination and the people that catch my attention are people
00:58:38.760
Erica thus far has not told any verifiable lies.
00:58:41.980
She did not lie about the fact that he had, uh, St. Michael on him when he died.
00:58:48.900
She could be on autopilot and some people could be reading that the wrong way and thinking,
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Is she on autopilot because she fears something?
00:59:01.180
Again, we don't know what's happening behind the scenes, but you have to have some level
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And so people have been upset with me for not going, you know, down the rabbit hole on
00:59:19.600
my show about Erica's parents, people's parents are people's parents.
00:59:26.580
If I find out that her parents were involved and then, then it's going to catch my investment.
00:59:31.760
And there's nobody that will be spared once they come up, once they tell a lie, once they,
00:59:36.660
I just literally have not come across anything with Frank Turek.
00:59:40.860
Also, I haven't come across anything with Erica in my investigation.
00:59:44.660
So, um, the shooter, uh, or the alleged shooter, you think they're a patsy?
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They can't show us one clear image, not even one, all of these cameras, turning point has
01:00:00.120
So shouldn't you have caught the shooter on the roof in 4k?
01:00:02.540
Like you had cameras everywhere that day, every inch of that campus is covered.
01:00:09.380
Someone that just, I don't even know if there was a person that sprinted that day because
01:00:15.000
There was also a news report that came out a week before that somebody was on the roof
01:00:21.140
and a professor came out and waved the person that they may have been dropping off a gun,
01:00:27.580
Cause there was one video, like one of the students had panned out where he was running.
01:00:37.160
So the person that captured that, cause I remember when it first broke out, that cell
01:00:40.780
phone footage got released where the shot goes off and for some odd reason, he's looking
01:00:44.620
at the roof and you see like a little speck running on the top.
01:00:47.440
So that person that took that video was military.
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I got in touch with the person and they didn't put up it, didn't put the video up themselves.
01:00:54.520
I'm like, so I'm supposed to believe you're like a college kid and you have nothing to
01:00:57.680
You just decided to randomly like be like, oh, I got this video, but I'm going to set
01:01:02.940
And also the Losey building where the shot definitely did not come from is the only place
01:01:07.400
on campus that houses, I believe on the third floor, according to my source, like the military
01:01:13.820
So there's a lot happening, uh, that all of that was just a show to mask who the real
01:01:20.460
I think it's way more likely that the shooter was in the audience or, uh, to the side of
01:01:25.980
I think that's more, that's the more likely story because he wasn't shot with a 30 odd
01:01:29.920
six first and foremost, and the bullets did not destroy his neck.
01:01:36.740
And he actually, uh, yeah, 30 odd six throws everybody off.
01:01:41.840
Like, but that was their plan until I accidentally, which I didn't even process it at the time,
01:01:49.340
And then they kind of were like, Oh, it was just a miracle.
01:01:56.260
And you know, this whole situation, like I, I wish the government was being a bit more
01:02:00.360
transparent because this has an incredible amount of public interest.
01:02:02.660
So it's like, look, dude, you guys probably should be more transparent on this because
01:02:05.980
government trust is down at its lowest when it comes to people trusting law enforcement
01:02:09.940
What are your thoughts on, um, how the FBI and the state police are handling this in
01:02:16.460
I think what's way more important is trusting Alexis Wilkins as a sensational singer and the
01:02:24.760
I don't want to talk about like the feds right now.
01:02:28.160
The more important thing is that this sensational country singer is left alone.
01:02:33.720
I mean, I think if Putin's FBI director or put that out, he would just, Putin would just
01:02:43.900
That is just, they are tweeting like girls on TikTok right now.
01:02:54.320
Trump should have made him resign for embarrassing us because, uh, there's no way Putin's not laughing
01:03:01.240
My girlfriend, my life partner, we are a bunch of people.
01:03:08.360
And obviously with his blessing, obviously with his blessing, or you would say, Hey, honey,
01:03:18.700
And of course the opposite thing happens now where everyone's now calling her a honeypot.
01:03:23.660
Like whack them all just sue everybody on the internet.
01:03:25.280
Who's making a joke, sue Tim Dillon or something.
01:03:29.140
Um, so it'd be fair to say, so you don't, you know,
01:03:31.220
I believe the official nerve and I, and I do agree with you.
01:03:36.260
Why don't we have the full footage of him taking the shot, then running off?
01:03:46.380
That's one of my biggest issues is they didn't show him taking a shot, but they have
01:03:50.520
So it's like, how do you not have him prone shooting the shot?
01:03:53.220
So I guess, and I know you're still investigating and figuring everything out, but if you can
01:03:58.140
kind of give me a quick summary, what do you think transpired in that day?
01:04:03.500
I know you're still filling parts in, but from what you have so far, what do you think?
01:04:06.640
And this is just like, if I had to guess right now where I'm at and this, I think Tyler Robinson's
01:04:12.320
only contribution was that he had his prints on the gun.
01:04:18.120
I know that he, his prints were not the only prints that were on the gun, which is something
01:04:28.800
I don't think he took the shot either, but I think he's more involved.
01:04:31.240
I think that Tyler Robinson's, all the people that were involved that day got swept up in
01:04:39.280
The guy that cheered his father is also a pedophile.
01:04:42.020
The guy next, I mean, the whole thing is like, it was an operation with blackmailed
01:04:50.760
And again, more of a marker that this was like a blackmail operation.
01:04:55.280
Also Zinn told a nurse that he was being paid, didn't know how he was going to be paid for
01:05:04.380
Like he got, like when this girl broke out, he got arrested and he was like, it was out
01:05:10.460
One person may be just supposed to run across the rooftop.
01:05:14.380
Another, I think Tyler Robinson, all his job was to pick up clothes.
01:05:18.800
I think literally he didn't set foot on campus that day.
01:05:21.140
And his job was to get rid of the clothes next to the Dairy Queen into some cemetery,
01:05:26.300
And the FBI is not disputed, but they decided to monitor the Dairy Queen afterwards and send
01:05:30.860
And, uh, yeah, so his role was to pick up clothes.
01:05:34.580
I think Lance is actually the one that's walking, um, in the backpack and, but.
01:05:44.580
And I don't know who was walking up the stairs.
01:05:46.260
I think that's a whole different person because they don't even look like they have the same
01:05:49.360
And yeah, that's how you do a nice feather operation.
01:05:52.040
You got a bunch of patsies doing different roles.
01:05:54.020
And then it shows the video of the stairway footage either, which is another thing that's
01:05:59.220
Well, no, I mean, I see you're, there's a lot of, you know, and I said it before, they've
01:06:10.700
So I'll just, uh, yeah, where can people find you?
01:06:15.620
At your local courthouse, your local courthouse being sued.
01:06:19.360
If you'd like to find me, uh, your local news station being called anti-Semite.
01:06:24.680
Do you think, cause I know Turning Point, they had said something about, we're going
01:06:29.340
Have they like reached out to you at all or contacted you?
01:06:31.900
Cause you're probably one of the most outspoken critic of what's going on with this investigation.
01:06:35.460
Happy to have any person at Turning Point on my show to discuss anything that I'm saying,
01:06:39.120
to make any corrections about anything that I'm saying.
01:06:44.180
I'm not going to stop investigating this until we're told something that makes sense, makes
01:06:48.800
And, uh, you're not going to tell me like you do with Israel that I'll get into heaven
01:06:55.740
Like we're not going to do, we're not going to play that game.
01:06:57.800
So say something that makes sense or you have an enemy of me.
01:07:01.900
And if you didn't want people prying into this narrative, maybe you shouldn't have executed
01:07:08.920
Maybe you should have pretended he choked on an egg or something like you did with that,
01:07:13.220
that, uh, rapper a long while back when he started asking questions about things.
01:07:18.160
Not a good idea to get everyone emotionally invested in the story and then to tell them
01:07:23.360
No, I mean, you've been doing an incredible job of putting a lot of pressure on them.
01:07:26.600
Uh, so hopefully we, you know, get answers here because what they have out right now just
01:07:35.120
And also thank you for being so patient because I know my schedule is so crazy with so many
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And so it's like, we just got to make it happen.
01:07:41.640
You're a mom, you have a family, so I totally understand it.