00:00:00.000Weird. There needs to be answers for why this was done. And he tells us the call came from the feds
00:00:04.520and the governor's office. UVUs washed their hands of it. And what he's saying sounds true
00:00:10.180because we heard during the testimony, one person described the regions of who was in control of
00:00:15.020everything. The feds were in control of the courtyard. So in order for anybody to have
00:00:18.320paid anything, that was federal territory, so to speak. I'm maybe not using that in the best cop
00:00:22.820term, but the feds were in control of the courtyard. So these are things that I think
00:00:28.220should be answered for why why are we doing things differently than you would in any other criminal
00:00:34.180scenario of keeping the evidence until we know more until we're confident uh you know the various
00:00:40.180decoys i did it i did it it just doesn't look right okay so go back to the question so what
00:00:47.000would you need to see for you to say something if they had i was expecting here we have him he took
00:00:51.400the shot here it is and then i'd be like great a clear image of him on the staircase from like
00:00:54.720that's definitively tyler robinson and he was on campus we got nothing we got literally nothing
00:00:59.500but hearsay of people saying but you basically get no case what you basically no case off planet
00:01:05.620earth do you get that sure oh we got a picture here's him with the murder weapon here's him
00:01:09.440taking the shot most most of this doesn't take place on a college campus that has surveillance
00:01:12.640everywhere yeah one clear image of his but i don't understand when you're asked if you're
00:01:17.680asked the question what would it take to convince it'd be the same question be asked to me
00:01:22.140Andrew, what would take to convince you that the oppositionals, right, that he's a patsy or something like that?
00:01:29.980Just good, clear, concise evidence that's been presented, right, and is being presented that I could go through and link all together to see if there's actually some clear picture of there being.
00:02:17.440I don't mind people being truth seekers and justice searchers, and the internet has helped solve tons of crimes.
00:02:25.500There's no ifs, ands, or buts about that, right?
00:02:28.260However, there's also people who, you know, they not only don't solve crimes, but they just come up with conjecture and what's called flooding the zone.
00:02:36.840You flood the zone with tons and tons of conspiracy-based ideas, and they go nowhere, right?
00:02:41.560And in fact, they actually take away from a legitimate investigation.
00:02:46.780Now, I'm not even saying anybody here is purposely flooding the zone.
00:20:14.780And I would also like to say that this becomes this other piece of what you do.
00:20:18.900Which is when people say this, I was told this and this is the evidence that I have and I'm willing to have that conversation and write the email to the correct government body that deals with this.
00:20:27.860Like I can't hack into Emmanuel Macron's bank account.
00:20:31.580So what Candace should do is just answer the questions and then she'll get her chance to, you know, to grill him next.
00:20:39.200I think this is not, this is going to make her look bad.
00:20:41.540And they're going to, all of her critics are going to come and say, look, see, she can't answer questions.
00:20:45.340and i gave the information that i got from who i got it to the right body
00:20:49.980of people and that's what i did got it i just i just want to make sure i'm not trying to trap
00:20:54.720you i just want to make sure i got it clear and that's why i say i want to know what you're doing
00:20:58.020now because this has always been the thing it's like we actually can't win on the overwhelming
00:21:01.480claim so we're just going to go and bring up everything that i think can try to embarrass her
00:21:05.940i reported exactly i'm not trying to embarrass you i just want to make sure that i get your
00:21:09.640positions clear i have not said yeah go ahead now you have stated multiple times that you believe
00:21:14.500that israel's involved in the death of charlie kirk can you give yes we can pull up the clip
00:21:19.460i'm sorry i'm just saying can i finish the sentence go ahead can you give me the context
00:21:24.600for what you're are you talking about like when i say generally speaking why people think that
00:21:28.820israel's involved okay where's your question yeah do you have any positive evidence whatsoever that
00:21:34.680israel killed charlie kirk well i couldn't say israel was on the ground and shot and killed
00:21:38.980charlie kirk i would say that there are various things that we're trying to establish one being
00:21:43.620a motive. And since I don't believe that Tyler Robinson and his transfer is a convincing motive
00:21:50.580because he was fired up about politics, which Lance testified that he never spoke about with
00:21:56.820him, nor do I believe that he was, you know, so into LGBTQ issues, since Lance testified they
00:22:02.420never spoke about LGBTQ issues, that he stopped and ate at Chick-fil-A, which if you are into
00:22:07.000LGBTQ issues, wouldn't be your lunch before you go kill Charlie Kirk for LGBTQ issues. Because,
00:22:12.820you know do you have positive evidence i'm i'm answering the question as i feel like i want to
00:22:17.200answer it like i said you don't get to for an hour and a half but the question i'm asking is
00:22:20.800about positive evidence i'm telling you that in any case establishing a motive and what i and again
00:22:26.220i already explained this at the top of the show but the reason why people find israel to be an
00:22:31.820interesting question is because truthfully charlie's perspectives were changing on israel
00:22:36.260sure and he was starting to realize how much pressure was being put on not just our government
00:22:40.760to constantly fight their wars but also being put on his organization personally if people had come
00:22:47.100out and been honest about that rather than rabid claiming he never flinched and everybody's lying
00:22:54.420and this is not true you would probably have people that just go yeah that's life people
00:22:59.140change their opinions i understand and then there was the rabid i mean not even that's like everything
00:23:03.020was about trying to convince the public how much he liked it so then other than intuition how you
00:23:07.380feel about things do you have any evidence israel i i was involved in killing charlie kirk i have
00:23:11.420already said and if you're watching my show and the context of what i said this is the general
00:23:16.020sense of why people think israel's involved we don't nobody has made the claim that is
00:23:20.960i'd say that for certainty until we know what other would have the right to assert it
00:23:27.240noted that there were 12 israeli cell phones on the ground that day i think most people would
00:23:31.160like to probe that now it could be maybe they were students you know and they were israeli
00:23:36.100students in utah that day but we'd like to probe that narrative because what we've seen after
00:23:40.720coming from the israeli government the israeli prime minister uh kind of denying that he did it
00:23:45.780which wasn't really necessary was quite busy uh the phone call that happened which no one wants
00:23:50.660to discuss in the hamptons the week prior uh or not the week prior i think it was around august
00:23:56.3205th or 6th that took place and again the almost desperate lies about charlie shifting opinion on
00:24:02.860israel lead us to believe that there could be an israeli angle in this uh but we cannot say for
00:24:08.800certainty that israel called the shots and this is how it happened but it is definitively i think
00:24:14.600a thread that a lot of us would like to say there's no positive evidence i whatever you want
00:24:18.640to say are we positive negative however you want to say it i don't need to just have a conversation
00:24:23.600material evidence and other evidences which what we've said is on our show is what we've said which
00:24:29.080is we this feels like a conspiracy building there's no reason to lie about these things
00:24:35.540and yet people are lying uh bb ain't acting right the hamptons thing was weird and the way they
00:24:42.060tried to shove the israel narrative down our throat immediately i mean the day he died posting
00:24:47.280a picture of him with an american and israeli ai photo on the president's feed doesn't feel right
00:24:52.560do you have any evidence that erica kirk or tp usa participated in the murder of charlie kirk i've
00:24:57.680never said they participated in the murder of charlie kirk so how could i say that i have
00:25:01.400evidence they participated in the murder of charlie kirk okay so then you don't believe that
00:25:05.760they did i never have said that statement so i'm not going to get you to ask me personal questions
00:25:12.260about things that i've never said on record okay your team is sending messages in the back saying
00:25:16.560they have a video they want to play okay go ahead i don't know what the video is
00:25:20.240it's probably the video where she might infer about charlie or and or sorry yes you said that
00:25:29.300there's a video you want to play that candace said she has full confidence israel was involved
00:25:35.540yep yeah he said evidence they're past that not now it's about erica kirk and tp usa did they have
00:25:42.600that clip like that they killed him i said they're this is why people think they're involvement
00:25:46.620involvement if they have the clip they can play the clip they're referring to a clip yeah
00:25:50.940via whom my guess is pierre erica i think that there's a reason pierre knew that charlie was
00:26:04.220dead first i think there's a reason he was a priority how why i think france and israel
00:26:10.340are involved in charlie kirk's assassination and um i'm gonna put that out there with full
00:26:15.060confidence okay also involvement i understand yeah so you think you you with full confidence
00:26:20.980you think that yeah i think france and israel yeah i i mean the person that gave me that thing
00:26:26.200that i reported said that uh french foreign legion were on the ground that day again this
00:26:31.180would be this would be at a professional limitation for me to then go and probe that information that
00:26:36.160i handed over i can't do that i'm not but you don't have any positive evidence okay i don't
00:26:40.940you can you just stop it's it's actually just like annoying to hear you keep saying positive
00:26:44.200evidence i've just asked me what i think i just tell you yes i think they are that's a claim
00:26:49.320no i said here's what here's what i think i have every right to ask you about your claim
00:26:54.620and if there's positive evidence for your claim i literally just said i think and i am allowed to
00:26:59.900think yeah you're allowed to think but you're making a claim i have tons of positive evidence
00:27:04.260that i'm allowed to think i agree you're allowed to think okay so nobody's disputing whether or
00:27:08.320not someone's allowed to think what i'm asking is if but you what's your issue then what is your
00:27:12.100issue with the statement i think uh-huh that israel is involved that's not what that's not
00:27:17.940just what you said you said i did say i think it's with full confidence yes that i think that
00:27:23.980if you had full yeah his team should be playing the clips like this more often confidence to
00:27:28.280think when you think if but if you if i said for instance i think i'm going to be late to work
00:27:33.420right with full confidence i would say my evidence for that is that i'm 20 minutes away and i need
00:27:38.200to be there in five. That's how you would know whether or not you had full confidence. Let me
00:27:43.200finish, let me finish, let me finish. If it was the case that I said I have full confidence I'm
00:27:47.500going to be late to work, I would say my evidence that I'm going to be is that work is 20 minutes
00:27:51.920away, right, and I have to be there in five. So I have full confidence. That's why I would think
00:27:56.220that. So I'm asking if you think that Israel and France were involved in the assassination of
00:28:01.160Charlie Kirk, and you say with full confidence, I'm just asking for the evidence, or at least
00:29:33.480explained to you in the middle. And now you're wanting me to structure the sentence or provide
00:29:36.140evidence. You don't have to, you're just allowed to think. And I've explained to you my thought
00:29:40.280process. I don't need to structure it in a sentence. If you feel like a professor today,
00:29:43.400you picked the wrong day. Don't you think that like tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands
00:29:46.600of people would want to know what Candace Owens positive evidence for why it is that Israel and
00:29:51.300France were involved in the most traumatic public assassination of Gen Z's lifetime is?
00:29:55.920That's why they watch my podcast. So you're just going to drip to them? Like here's why
00:29:59.280every time we come across any of these discussions, they're watching this in context and they know
00:30:03.460know why i'm saying it so for example when you're bringing up what candace where's your evidence for
00:30:08.300france doing this i just told you someone who was high ranking in the french government right
00:30:11.440who's nameless of course of course of course of course but there's good reason to doubt this
00:30:15.740though if i then took it to the federal government like you can't just go out there making a claim
00:30:19.100to the federal government you get in trouble for making false statements and things of that nature
00:30:21.240so and then you go well i'm going to probe that well how can you probe that this happened to me
00:30:24.740this is my podcast i am sharing my life and my experiences and what has happened to me
00:30:29.860and you're basically coming now she'd be better if she said this is why i thought that at the time
00:30:34.520okay that would have been better if she had said at the time when i said that
00:30:39.320this is what led me to believe that the french and israeli governments were involved
00:30:44.280since then there's been new information that's come out that has made me either a um you know
00:30:50.480i believe stronger or i believe it might not be she'd be better off she has said that because
00:30:56.120here's the thing she doesn't want to answer the question just answer the question say what made
00:31:00.760you think that at the time and then you can say right because here's the thing you guys got to
00:31:05.600remember as the person with the alternative theory Candace has the wiggle room to be able to say
00:31:11.100well I'm changing my take on that now because xyz so she would have been better off saying this is
00:31:17.100what led me to believe that at that time versus doing this this makes her look very bad I'm not
00:31:22.880gonna lie being very honest here she'd be better off saying this is what made me think that at the
00:31:27.320time and i don't think that it uh i don't think it's as a strong now or whatever it may be or it
00:31:33.340or or have more evidence to strengthen it but that would be a much better answer i mean in like
00:31:39.520you're gonna what regulate what i how i'm allowed to say if i'm not trying to regulate anything i'm
00:31:42.900asking very pertinent questions a bit like a professor trying to regulate and say candace
00:31:46.340you sound very defensive and like you just don't want to answer questions i i did answer your
00:31:49.800question three times i just didn't say it in the way that you want to just kind of obfuscate and
00:31:52.820you run away from it but i would like for you to actually go through every clip that you guys have
00:31:55.760prepared because i it's pretty i i think with full confidence people will recognize the strategy that
00:32:00.340you're trying to employ so let's get to the next clip you have prepared sure they can pull up
00:32:03.680whatever it is that you guys have prepared but there but i would still i on this point i just
00:32:08.080want to make sure that you have full confidence that france and israel were involved in the
00:32:10.720assassination of charlie kirk i think and you have no evidence for it at all that you'll give
00:32:14.000us well the high i already did tell you where it came from like i said i can explain it to you i
00:32:18.720I can't understand that higher up tell you that he was going to kill that France killed Charlie
00:32:22.040Kirk or just that you were in danger. They said that the French foreign legion was involved on
00:32:25.600the ground that day. I've already said that you just don't like hearing it. No. And I just had
00:32:28.640a curiosity when you pass down that message to a Tulsi or Trump. Tulsi's office. Yes. Tulsi's
00:32:33.560office. Are you giving them who told you that or you're just saying here's what I heard from
00:32:37.660this and I have this information. And of course, if they wanted to open a file on it, which I
00:32:40.960thought was quite mysterious, that Trump's office never got back to us. It was kind of weird about
00:32:44.120like maybe that maybe they're not the correct office to. I did receive a response from Tulsi
00:32:47.980gabbard's office but i i don't think there was ever any investigation into what i said so the
00:32:51.180call was hey i've been told somebody i'm speeding it up guys to catch up no yes email was i've been
00:32:55.560told i have information yeah that that the french foreign agent was on the ground during charlie's
00:32:58.560assassination um uh and that i mean i have a lot of information but you didn't get specifics who
00:33:02.260it was from not in the first email i figured they would like so if they do contact you 100 are you
00:33:05.100comfortable giving 100 who it is i would absolutely give them as much information as possible if
00:33:08.040whoever's the u.s government why are you not yes it's very strange to me you know so if that's the
00:33:10.980case now they may respond back and say we did you know that's their position that's why i did it in
00:33:13.280writing and so i'm glad that's the case because so if they do ask you and right away in trump's
00:33:15.780office his like margo got right back to me she was on his desk so he has that there's no and if
00:33:18.460you do say that and they contact that individual obviously you don't have to leak your sources here
00:33:21.100is there enough credibility where that person would be willing to talk to them and explain to
00:33:23.340them exactly what their sources yes okay i mean that seems reasonable and so why he's asking me
00:33:25.900to defend that is like i'm not i think those are two different things that's why are they not
00:33:28.700reaching out to you i've asked that many times on my podcast what do you think about that andrew
00:33:31.640what the fact that she emailed she gave it and nobody they're not going to reach back out to her
00:33:34.960because it's a one-way street with the government i can tell you guys that anytime a source gives
00:33:38.260you information you're not gonna like unless you need more information from them it's a one-way
00:33:41.320street once you go to the government it is what it is unfortunately relationship like this isn't
00:33:44.800just anybody so if an average person sends it yeah but i mean we don't know who the source is
00:33:47.640we don't know if it wouldn't you if you were in that department wouldn't you want to even you
00:33:50.820assign it to one year they didn't look into it how do we know how could they didn't come get the
00:33:53.860information more of the information it's a long file this is a separate this is more on uh well
00:33:57.860i just i sent the email assuming that you go and you make a report you think they're going to come
00:34:00.660back to you and say hey what's more information we're investigating this and that didn't happen
00:34:02.520which is what i raised especially because at a time where they were saying that
00:34:04.640they wanted to explore every possible lead which i even texted dan bongino but so i actually was
00:34:12.240three it was three offices let me ask the executive office dan bongino and uh the and
00:34:19.240tulsi gabbard's office okay so a follow-up to that is the following if they contact you to say
00:34:25.200is that specifically to the french government or israel's involvement in the killing of
00:34:29.860it wasn't that wasn't about those are two separate things that wasn't about israel it was they were
00:34:33.220saying the french foreign that person if they contact you to say is that specifically to the
00:34:41.560french government or israel's involvement in the killing of charlie it wasn't that wasn't about
00:34:44.900those are two separate things that wasn't about israel it was they were saying the french foreign
00:34:48.160that person as a part of it was saying that it was the french foreign legion that was on the
00:34:51.360ground that day i'm surprised i haven't called you then i find that to be very strange too i do as
00:34:55.160well because who would want to make a report like i mean i've never made a report with the federal
00:34:58.620government let me just ask one question let me just ask one question and i'm gonna bring it to
00:35:03.500you sure the question is in regards to i've not seen that clip so i'm seeing it now the full count
00:35:09.080I'm full confidence, I believe, that Israel-French was involved.
00:35:12.400Is that also based on a source that somebody told you that Israel was involved in the assassination of Charlie Kirk, or is that a gut feeling?
00:35:21.980So in terms of Israel, I mean, what I've said is what I publicly have said here.
00:35:26.820I do think that at the end of this, we are going to find that Israel was involved.
00:35:32.360uh now when in terms of any of the hard evidence that's been presented i think this has been a
00:35:37.580huge problem that a lot of us have had as have had is that they won't even explore um anything
00:35:43.000else that was going on charlie's life personally so if we're not satisfied that tyler robinson did
00:35:47.040this in any way then every alternative theory should be explored other evidence should be
00:35:51.480brought forward we've done that in our in our capacity like when people keep saying she has
00:35:54.800no evidence it's kind of crazy i think we've broken like more stories than any news source
00:35:59.020in the world i mean down to pictures details police officers uh what the dog's name was because
00:36:04.120we're not we're not the only people that believe there's a conspiracy here the police officers
00:36:07.940that are were involved the many police sheriff's offices um that were departments that were
00:36:15.140involved that day all believe there was a conspiracy down to the u.s marshals believe
00:36:18.180there's a conspiracy they were uh my sources at the u.s marshals were saying they were basically
00:36:22.400sat in a wild goose chase that day but do you see how you say my sources you're not allowed to have
00:36:27.080sources well the thing is funny CNN allowed to have sources if I said I have sources that claim
00:36:32.340none of that's true in fact my sources claim that her sources are lying my sources claim that there
00:36:37.340is none of them believe that there's a conspiracy my sources claim all of them really think that
00:36:41.940Tyler Robinson was a lone gunman if I just said that as hypothetical wouldn't you say what yeah
00:36:47.640I think what probably adds weight is like then when I drop photos of the car that no one was
00:36:51.880supposed to see people go okay her sources are legit so um and then when what I say is then
00:36:56.220proven in court and nobody knew those things, people are recognizing that my sources are legit.
00:37:00.900When I say Charlie was scared in the last days and then I dropped the text message, which you've
00:37:06.320just learned about a couple of weeks ago of him saying he was leaving the pro-Israel cause when
00:37:10.760everyone was lying about that, then they say, I think Kansas sources are legit. So I think what's
00:37:15.420happened is I've actually built up a report with my audience that it's not vibes and dreams. And
00:37:19.340that's why they keep watching my content because I, like, for example, when I just the other day
00:37:24.640released the content of the shooter on the roof doing the lateral crawl then they're going i don't
00:37:30.580think these are just vibes it seems like cancer sources are legit so i've proven myself in the
00:37:33.940market yeah i'm not sure that that would legitimize your sources as being legitimate when it comes to
00:37:39.000the idea that oh they all believe that there's a conspiracy going on which is actually what your
00:37:43.940claim is now how would that actually hang on hang on i'm almost done how was that talking to pvd how
00:37:48.820would that legitimize well it's not his debate how would he how would it legitimize these sources
00:37:54.180That even if it's the case that you get some court footage or some things like this, why would it legitimize that your sources are telling you all the marshals believe it's a conspiracy, all the police believe it's a conspiracy, everybody believes it?
00:38:05.640How would that legitimize any of that?
00:38:06.660Well, what I am saying to you, and you are not forced to believe it, so let me just explain what I was answering here, and I think that you understood what I was saying, is I have, because people trust me, compiled a lot of information and presented it to the public.
00:38:20.580and this information has been proven true.
00:53:10.200And you're saying that you walked into their headquarters and reached out and they it's amazing, isn't it?
00:53:15.200If you reach out in good faith and you're not demonizing them and saying that they're complicit in the murder of people's deaths, that that perhaps they're actually willing to release things to you that are pertinent.
00:53:25.140Other than thinking that, you know, perhaps you're diabolical.
00:53:28.780I don't know. I feel like if I was going to release that information, I didn't I didn't demand that it be released to me.
00:53:34.180I actually never demanded that it be released.
00:53:35.880i just simply said that this is what was going on in the last 48 hours maybe to the media they
00:53:41.420could release it they can release it to pbd they decide to release it to a guy that called erica
00:53:45.760too retarded in june so what yeah i just think it kind of shows that turning point is sending you as
00:53:51.940their horse well i don't know where you don't have they don't have the courage to have the
00:53:55.740conversation like i don't if they were just i don't know about that one he paid for this himself
00:54:00.080never demanded it's not evidence you're sharing your opinion that she's too retarded i can't share
00:54:06.580my opinion that i think it's going to register as really obvious to the public that rather than
00:54:11.260presenting that throughout the course of everybody wanting to know what charlie was going through
00:54:15.480through his last days they decided to give it to you to come to my house as some sort of a surprise
00:54:19.440well do you think the public's not smart enough to see through that do you think that if you know
00:54:23.320terrible pr you know that there's a huge debate that's coming up that's going to be probably one
00:54:28.180the most viewed that year and one of the debaters calls you and says i'm taking this position
00:54:32.400this is the position that i feel like there's the most evidence for and candace also agreed
00:54:37.820to answer many of my questions in regards to this so if you got pertinent evidence here that i can
00:54:42.760use i definitely like take a look what is that it was actually amazing to me it really was actually
00:54:47.680amazing to me how if you approach people in good faith and just say hey i'd actually like to know
00:54:52.320what the facts and details are around this they actually do talk to you it's amazing yeah i i i
00:54:58.320just do not believe a that you that they are doing this in good faith i don't believe that anything
00:55:03.000you have done is demonstrated that's in good faith it demonstrates that you walked into turning
00:55:06.640point usa headquarters and came out a different man because you were critical of the organization
00:55:09.700you were critical of erica and now you're sitting here going well first of all i want to interrogate
00:55:14.300you for an hour and a half about everything you've ever said about erica critical of somebody that
00:55:17.980you hadn't met and then you meet them and you're less critical of them uh and the inverse has
00:55:21.740happened too i was right about erica and now i'm more but i'm asking you but i'm asking you isn't
00:55:26.440it the case that there's people you've been critical of and then you've met them and you're
00:55:29.160less critical after you meet them uh too retarded i i feel like if you think that she's dumb and you
00:55:35.120let's just talk about your record i mean you're a person that has spent time in what most people
00:55:40.560would term to be the manosphere talking about feminine well yeah i debate against the against
00:55:46.120feminists and red pillars and a lot of the actual so i'm a christian ethicist and then you go on to
00:55:52.340joe rogan and you're like like soft explaining away why erica had to take over charlie's company
00:55:57.780when they don't have a parent at home so now you're a feminist icon like you just go into
00:56:01.240the headquarters and you just shift all of your that's that's a bizarre criticism like nobody's
00:56:05.660in the bigger girl boss position than you i'm actually no you're in the biggest of the girl
00:56:10.340boss positions like you don't have to do this you just do do see this is what i mean when i uh say
00:56:15.720like now we're getting into you know i mean and that's been the this debate the entire time is
00:56:20.360like they dislike each other so there is a lot of you know there's gonna be it's just inherently
00:56:26.860gonna be attacks it is what it is you know that's why i want to time runs the beginning dude that's
00:56:31.760why i want to time runs the beginning do this you could definitely not do it at all and be fine
00:56:37.180right but you still do i i would say that you are making a comparison that cannot be compared
00:56:42.040because Erica's husband was just assassinated in front of the world.
00:58:20.860By the way, I would think it's the most rational, reasonable thing on planet Earth to do if you wanted to actually see an organization change to try to work with leadership or reach out to leadership to try to do so.
00:58:33.060Doesn't that make the most amount of sense?
00:58:34.500I would like to state for the record that I think Erica is underqualified to run the organization.
00:58:40.460And on the more emotional aspects, I agree with what seems to be a majority opinion, because I'm not going to say it's scientific, that any woman that would leave her kids and go right into the office after their husband was publicly assassinated does not have their priorities straight.
00:58:59.340Okay, well, I understand that you can have those criticisms, but I'm not understanding still how that would make her complicit.
00:59:06.300I don't have to keep answering the same question.
00:59:09.480Do you feel like you've got an answer to how it's complicit?
00:59:12.280Your team is asking to play a clip, so if we want to play this clip to just finish this segment on the Erica Kirk topic, we can spend some time on that as well.
00:59:20.040So if you guys are ready in the back, we're ready.
00:59:22.300and causing that 30-06 diameter as would happen with a pet and explosives as we've demonstrated
00:59:30.100to you in the past, it accidentally, because of how Charlie was crouched, went up and hit his neck.
00:59:38.200And that ruined everything. It ruined everything. It was problematic. It's the reason why
00:59:44.140Terrell then had to scramble to get the cameras down because they were never supposed to see it.
00:59:49.220They could have said reasonably that a 30-06 got eaten by Charlie much more reasonably, obviously, than saying that the chicken.
01:00:00.440Now, the 30-06 argument is the strongest argument that the alternative theorists have.
01:00:07.540I will say that that is the strongest argument they have.
01:00:10.380It's been something that's kept me very skeptical as well.
01:00:13.740you know and it's well it's a big reason why i've been reluctant to accept the official
01:00:18.620narrative 100 too you know so uh that i think is the strongest piece of evidence to alternative
01:00:27.420theories theorists have and this is why i want to go to the trial so bad bones in his neck stopped
01:00:34.100it because he ate vegetables yeah that was kind of crazy when the surgeon said that to uh colvin
01:00:41.640they panicked that was what then that's why tarryl's nervous on the phone with me again this
01:00:46.940is my theory and i am now very much sticking to it okay they panicked it's the reason erica had
01:00:53.000to step out once that's why she would have got gotten on the phone with tarryl so quickly because
01:00:58.340i was going why is tarryl saying well i didn't want erica to relive oh that's why i did it he
01:01:01.620didn't have an answer he was nervous it was crazy and but he acknowledged he spoke to erica
01:01:06.260immediately why did you speak to erica immediately do you believe that there was a shape charge that
01:01:13.040killed charlie hey can i ask you why guys do me a favor smash the like button on youtube guys if
01:01:16.820you guys are watching on youtube show some love man smash the like button okay guys i'd really
01:01:21.600appreciate that i'm demonetized on bitch ass youtube this is not my main platform my stream
01:01:26.020went down earlier which is why your viewership is lower than it should be so smash the like button
01:01:30.260guys let's get this thing up in the algorithm you keep starting clips mid-sentence
01:01:35.200probably to get to where the clip is no it doesn't seem that way because you can always start a clip
01:01:40.140at the beginning of a sentence like you're just start of like it's completely out of context
01:01:43.780wait i didn't yeah i didn't prepare the clips but yeah i think i didn't but it's fine to ask it to
01:01:49.100back it up like i said this this the i don't need to say what's happening here because the internet
01:01:53.500will clock it but uh in this episode we are now going and that's why i said we're now going to
01:02:00.600look at some alternative theories i made it very clear that this was a theory that i didn't want
01:02:04.260to look at this is I believe because I don't have every episode on my head and but I'm pretty sure
01:02:09.300this is an episode where we presented the evidence that was in the car the photos of what was in the
01:02:13.620car right and so we are now inferring off of what we see in the car that this very much does look
01:02:21.060like uh that we are see a bunch of shattered road microphone which was an early theory that I was
01:02:28.360actually interested in but couldn't really wrap my head around what was uh the shape charge
01:02:33.920explosive as I say at the beginning episode like I just it was just not my expertise and I was
01:02:38.540concerning myself with timelines and stories and St. Miss didn't make sense without question
01:02:42.820Terrell Farnsworth is someone who made me think that we were missing a big part of the story
01:02:48.560so I'm walking them through John Bray's theory if we started to insert what we are actually observing
01:02:56.500with the evidence that we're taking a look at and what took place that day so we're completely in
01:03:01.880the hypothetical right here uh and you're now introducing this if that's the case if you're
01:03:06.560just hypothetically exploring it that's why i'm just asking directly yes but if you but that's
01:03:10.580obvious when you watch this episode so that's why it feels like i'm in the middle of an interview
01:03:15.440with cnn when they like pull up random clips and they're like what's this what's this you watch
01:03:20.460the episode you know what it is sure do you think that your alternative theory i think john bray's
01:03:26.420theory should be explored yes okay do you do you think that charlie kirk was killed with an
01:03:30.860explosive i think i think that that is a all right possibility yes okay and it should be explored he's
01:03:36.880done a lot of work on it john bryan's done good work and i think that that's why that spicy taco
01:03:41.020thank you nigger says says uh losing respect for the candidates can't even address her own claims
01:03:45.820when asked keep making excuses i bet andrew's screaming inside yeah i like i said before i
01:03:50.480think if she answered them the questions more directly it'd be better a theory is now starting
01:03:55.260to gain steam since we released the second set of the photos of what was in the car i think it's
01:04:01.940viable so this was the big thing i wanted to get into with you on the explosives too what what is
01:04:06.900it about that theory that's actually compelling to you so i looked into the explosive mic theory
01:04:11.160multiple times and the biggest thing that stood out to me is there's no explosion
01:04:16.340there's there's literally no explosion in fact there's videos when the shot rings out
01:04:22.080um that kills charlie at least it sounds like a shot to me people are actually like looking up
01:04:28.100towards where the uh the gun is being fired they're looking away for where their sound is
01:04:34.880yeah and there's multiple videos that show that a shot rang out from other people you know like
01:04:42.560where's the action and you can hear the echo which shows that it was shot at a distance
01:04:45.760tool explosion well smash the light button guys we're sitting at 667 likes only let's get to 2000
01:04:51.660niggas smash that shit i'm up early for every person that you say looks away there's gonna be
01:04:58.500a person that was looking forward uh we have former marines that have gotten on and said
01:05:03.980it looks to me like there's an explosion under his shirt right you obviously saw um and as usual
01:05:10.720if i stop it i will go ahead and speed it up so we catch up uh rob o'neill go on to i'm forgetting
01:05:17.040which platform it was where he said it's the first thing i thought was rob o'neill is the man that
01:05:20.140Yeah, and I think he's qualified to say what he believes he saw.
01:05:23.380Well, a lot of people think O'Neill lied about that.
01:37:48.360Aggravated murder, felony discharge of a firearm, obstruction of justice, which is counts three and four, five and six, tampering with a witness.
01:37:57.860and count seven violent I said offense in the presence of a minor child yeah yeah so five six
01:38:04.280tampering witness third degree felony now I did notice something I just was curious about if I'm
01:38:09.560just wondering when you pulled out your phone just before you asked that question did somebody by
01:38:13.820chance text you that question you can check my phone I'm just curious no you can absolutely not
01:38:17.720I didn't I have not had one communication with a single person not even my producers who are in
01:38:22.420there this whole time we were here you want to check my phone I'm happy to do it because you're
01:38:25.900just going to get double embarrassed where's my phone you want to see it i'm just curious you can
01:38:29.920literally do that here you go pbd you're the moderator take it let's see if anyone was texted
01:38:35.800at all during this debate all right about the violent charges or anything i'm looking through
01:38:43.560this you give me permission you have full permission to go through my phone i don't need
01:38:46.820to cheat the last one has nothing to do with it it's just a compliment i haven't even read my
01:38:52.660tech messages that's a compliment he's reading them you're okay you'll give me permission i'm
01:38:56.740just gonna read three elements 11 32 because after that i don't need to read it and you know
01:39:00.480they're texts could have been telegram could have been something oh i have a signal you can check
01:39:03.960that too i only have signal telegram i used in russia and that was it i downloaded i'll take
01:39:09.940your word for it yeah i don't i don't need to like i deeply care about this case i don't need
01:39:13.700to pretend if you care about the case i just you know i have my other question is about steakhouse
01:39:18.840receipt you just said that you were done asking all your questions so you know yeah nothing there
01:39:23.680yeah do you have the steakhouse receipts my question um i have said several times that i
01:39:28.540have i have never said i have the receipt for the steakhouse i have said the person who's working
01:39:32.680on that story is going to be forthcoming with the receipt and that was what i was responding to and
01:39:36.980he then dropped the receipt he redacted elements of it and i said stay tuned he's the one working
01:39:41.780on that story okay so you haven't actually confirmed that robinson was at that steakhouse
01:39:46.360All I did, as I said earlier in this conversation, was I spoke to the owner when I broke that story.
01:40:11.140For those of you that don't know, what they're referring to is there was talk about a steakhouse.
01:40:14.680OK, and this again, this is why it's so important that, OK, there was an allegation that Tyler Robinson ate at a steakhouse around the time.
01:40:22.540And that was supposed to be a reason one of his like, you know, one of the alibis as to him not being not being the shooter.
01:40:30.760Now, I've heard from two different sides that Tyler Robinson was not at the steakhouse from people.
01:40:36.820And from what I understand, I'll look it up for you guys as well, just because I want to keep it real, that the owner came out and said he was never there.
01:40:43.660But apparently they have a receipt that he was there, so we'll see.
01:40:47.760But that's what they're referring to for some of you guys that are confused about the steakhouse.
01:40:53.140The person working on this story that blurred that out is what I was referring to when I said stay tuned and keep following his stuff
01:40:59.000because he went to go do what I hadn't done, which was he interviewed the actual server.
01:41:03.520So there's no evidence that Tyler was at that steakhouse?
01:41:05.640I would say the receipt with his debit card number, it would be some hard.
01:41:09.540Now, it's important for you guys to know the defense and law enforcement went also and did these interviews, and they're saying Tyler was not there.
01:41:20.320Hence, if he was there, the defense would have used that at their preliminary hearing, and they didn't.
01:42:09.320And I feel that having spoken to the owner, that the evidence is compelling enough to put onto my personal timeline of what took place on that day.
02:04:11.520even though I disagree with Nick Fuentes he showed up that's why we have coming up in the fall
02:04:16.640remember we were supposed to do a debate at Penn State or UPenn sorry with Professor Zimmerman
02:04:21.380that's not going to be Harvard we do have to put up that cost because it's ten thousand dollars to
02:04:26.980you know the charity of their choice or the school whatever department of the school that they want
02:04:31.380just so you can see debates versus actual professors I'm not going to pay a ransom
02:04:35.140because I've done enough debates and people can either do it we can have a conversation or not
02:04:38.800But I do understand that it was necessary. And my hat's off to Andrew for doing so. We will provide the references that, of course, when we do every show. And I would ask that Andrew do that with his show, if he doesn't already. And that Candace does that with her show. We do that so that we don't find ourselves in the same kind of situation as Candace.
02:04:55.500let me go through a few claims here that were made and then we'll um i mean we'll take your
02:05:00.540chats but she claimed so claim that uh the prosecution has this incredibly weak case
02:05:05.760because the evidence presented at the preliminary hearing wasn't quote a slam dunk and it was all
02:05:10.080got the poll up right now guys who do you think won the debate andrew candace no one what do you
02:05:15.860guys think go ahead and vote in in the list let me know what you didn't just think and don't worry
02:05:26.520the show will continue on the show will continue on we're gonna keep we're gonna break down some
02:05:33.140more news we'll do some more analysis of the of the debate we'll look at some clips and shit like
02:05:37.200that of people giving their takes say the truth preliminary hearing is not a trial hearsay uh by
02:05:42.540the way is not always admissible but reliable hearsay that's the reason for the and we read
02:05:47.940super chats very soon um hearing taking place before the trial the jury is going to hear all
02:05:51.800the evidence that's when you drop the slam dunks here's another claim that people are saying the
02:05:56.240dad turned robinson in the truth robinson's dad said when wife showed him footage that the shooter
02:06:04.380looked like his son and he advised him to speak with a youth pastor in other words he didn't
02:06:07.700willingly turn him in but there is a matter of record where his dad said yep that looks like my
02:06:11.560son and i spoke with my son about it here's a candace claim that she made today uh the only
02:06:15.880claim that she made or sorry i never claimed anything about erica kirk when they showed
02:06:19.520she said well you're taking it out of context i was saying that erica was complicit not in charlie
02:06:24.480being killed nor tp usa i was i said she was complicit in saying that tyler robinson did it
02:06:31.780uh the truth let's play the let's play that mon i wish they had this clip ready that i believe
02:06:38.560came from milk bar we had some other ones too amount of evidence that is now piling up against
02:06:45.140erica kirk i've seen enough erica kirk should be dragged into a police precinct the assassination
02:06:50.640of charlie kirk uh was something akin to a regicide right the assassination of a king
02:06:57.500to install i will say that milk bar tv is a faggot though i just have to put that out there a new
02:07:03.440ruler who the king would have never approved of turning and guys keep voting keep voting for me
02:07:08.480in the kick thing who do you think won the debate Andrew Candace or no one point USA for Erica Kirk
02:07:15.120and what I think is fair uh to refer to as their also their federal accomplice accomplices sorry
02:07:22.560she should be dragged into a precinct because she believes that Tyler Robinson did it the federal
02:07:27.480accomplices meaning the Trump administration they would be accomplices to Erica Kirk believing that
02:07:31.120Tyler Robinson did it don't take her out of context then another Candace claim there at the
02:07:36.140end like i told you she will play victim that's what she will do because she's a feminist she
02:07:39.540doesn't want to admit it she is a feminist she said i didn't waste time bringing up stuff out
02:07:42.680of context i want to discuss the issue her opening salvo the truth was a tweet from andrew's wife
02:07:48.12015 years ago and one of his at replies as to why he was convinced tyler robinson did it and by the
02:07:54.060way that at reply did not say these are the only reasons i believe tyler robinson did it he just
02:07:57.560presented some pretty strong pieces of evidence okay also we have another claim from candace uh
02:08:04.840It's a then and now that she, of course, she's above the fray.
02:08:09.920She does not do the whole criticizing.
02:08:11.920That's why I stayed away from criticizing Erica Kirk, her outfit or anything that would be ad hominem.
02:08:16.800I just criticized the fact that she believed Tyler Robinson did it.
02:23:03.600I really don't think I made a single mistake that debate.
02:23:07.160Just the gotcha at the end, but who cares?
02:23:10.160not even important ultimately what matters is if she has any sort of evidence so the first half of
02:23:16.160the debate i remember laughing last night and i was like you know because the trial's not here
02:23:21.760and this and that we're really just arguing our opinions on this evidence right like do i am i
02:23:27.120convinced by it yes are you convinced by it no great where do you go from there and if that was
02:23:32.080the extent of all that anybody was talking about nobody would care but it's never been about that
02:23:38.720That it's always been an extensive, overarching, Israel's involved, France is involved, these various people want to kill, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
02:23:51.900And they never have any evidence for any of that.
02:23:54.260And that was what was important to demonstrate.
02:23:56.260Well, I think it's also important to demonstrate, like we talked about, this is me being selfish, but, you know, she has called into question our actual investigative journalism.
02:24:03.920Like so the Covenant shooting, right, with Audrey Hale, where she said, actually, my source, I'm glad I did my due diligence, she was sexually abused, wasn't actually true.
02:24:11.220Where she said, I was a Fed, our engravings on the bullets, by the way, turned out to be true.
02:24:15.920Jay Varma, COVID architect, turned out to be true.
02:24:18.060So she calls everyone else into question when they actually have ways.
02:24:22.520There are ways of having an anonymous source and having it validated through a third party in the public eye.
02:24:27.840She will tell everyone who will listen that those people are Feds.
02:24:30.760But what's funny to me is wouldn't a Fed be the most likely person to tell you there's no radical trans anything?
02:24:38.320Mr. Crowder's source saying the engraving is in the bullet.
02:24:41.380That's a lie. And by the way, we've been subpoenaed by the ATF and the FBI.
02:24:44.900Wouldn't a Fed say, hey, by the way, Audrey Hale wasn't a radicalized trans shooter.
02:24:49.680She was sexually abused by a relative. So I think she's a Fed.
02:24:54.120yeah well look the and feds often feed uh small amounts of true information so that they can feed
02:25:02.860false information three diglets where the 1000 says uh marigold gain should have been mod it's
02:25:08.220all good bro it's all good if i was mad i would have i would have said we need to shift to time
02:25:12.320debates guys need to shift to time debates like that's how it could be one minute it could be two
02:25:18.260minutes fire around each but that's what we need to do time debates even if it's a minute two minutes
02:25:23.620you know like if if that that was a real fed op this isn't a fed op because she has no true
02:25:28.820information on yeah she just she doesn't have anything there is no there is no counterclaims
02:25:34.620in other words you can say that you don't believe the state's case sure fair enough you can argue
02:25:39.340about not believing the state's case all day long i don't even have a problem with that my my uh
02:25:45.060problem is that there's tons and tons of these counterclaims and there is no evidence for any
02:25:50.740of them and she essentially conceded that that was true on every single claim i brought up is
02:25:55.680there any evidence for that nope no any evidence for that long explanation and no is there any
02:26:01.300evidence for that long explanation followed by no followed by no and i pushed each time until i got
02:26:06.400to know and then moved to the next one i also know she's like she's like a rabbit so you can only
02:26:11.440push so far wait you push rabbits that's just mean i was gonna say uh you do it with beagles
02:26:17.180well that's where you give him the flea helmet the old fauci that's right but i do that with
02:26:22.300i do that with humans too the one thing that i did find funny is at the end she was like well
02:26:26.160we agreed to have these fact checkers but not to just take clips out of context and again
02:26:30.100i don't think you saw this we ran for example the side by side of her saying i've never criticized
02:26:34.540the outfits and her saying erica stylist must hate her and you know it's not about that being
02:26:39.100the most important claim it's just proving that she has no problem verifiably lying she has no
02:26:45.120problem doing that well the her whole thing was to see doubt right to see doubt with the claims
02:26:52.260of the state and my whole point was to see doubt with the claims of her it's the same exact thing
02:26:57.420right it's just question the questioners if if it's the case that you have problems with state
02:27:02.680evidence that's fair but you should also have problems with the anti-evidence people as well
02:27:07.560when they're like hey we can just make tons of claims and never have any evidence for any of
02:27:11.780them that's insane that's literally insane to me so i agree with you i gotta get i know you gotta
02:27:17.480go but tell people the give send go because we have it up at our reference page where they can
02:27:21.120go check our fact check uh tell folks where they can go and support you and where you'll be next
02:27:25.180week so they can tune into the after uh yeah you can tune into the crucible there's a link on the
02:27:30.080crucible's youtube that goes directly to the give send go we appreciate it if you thought that um
02:27:35.380i did a good job today you want to support me walking into the lion's den that's a great place
02:27:40.460to do it also for those of you who don't know and i'm going to just say this real quick even
02:27:45.420though it's going to embarrass the shit out of him steven's of course been a great friend to me
02:27:49.260and he supported me 100 of the way this entire time he supported me 100 of the way uh unfortunately
02:27:55.580though he did send dumb ass gerald out here so i know by the way i also i also threatened with
02:28:01.120stupid ass gerald this whole week you're such a dude okay i also kidding i'm kidding i also
02:28:06.120threatened you just so you know i threatened you i threatened your wife last night too andrew i
02:28:12.480said if you if you tell i said joe lewis has had the surgery some complications i said but if you
02:28:16.400bother andrew with this i will send your personal address to candace owens so that happened last
02:28:21.300night but go enjoy yourself take your victory lap and you know and thanks hey thanks lane and the
02:28:25.760team for getting all that information to us it was incredibly helpful so thank you very much
02:28:29.520we very much appreciate it go be safe and uh you know stop wearing a tablecloth as your shirt
02:32:07.120Because PBD and the crew are out of the office hosting the debate between Candace Owens and Andrew Wilson on the Charlie Kirk murder trial.
02:32:17.380Now, I'm expecting a heated debate, a lot of fireworks.
02:32:20.820everybody knows this guy andrew wilson is a world-renowned debater and everybody knows that
02:32:26.600candace owens is a world-renowned anyway i'm getting ready to watch the debate who you got
02:32:32.780what the fuck bro and this is why no one likes uh adam bro anyway the real winner okay the jews
02:32:43.620okay uh let's see what else we got here
02:32:50.820candid reputation of political space made me forget for a second that she's just another
02:33:04.340one being led by emotions okay best sigh pierce morgan what was this overwhelming evidence
02:36:38.620this is being able to watch she's just using the same tag that the mainstream media does and just
02:36:41.940talk over everyone all the time she isn't saying anything of depth or value that's why i'm saying
02:36:46.840time rounds would have been better my wild difference be involved in charlie kirk good
02:36:50.860question 300k later for i feel like andrew footloose andrew shaky foot you think it's
02:36:56.520smart for canis to debate about a case that tpsa is suing her for um they're not suing her yet
02:37:02.580i think i read this earlier julian dory had a podcast with the forensics expert
02:37:08.600it. Okay. I think we're caught up. Sup, Myron? Thanks for everything you do once again. Finally
02:37:19.920figured out the whole financing shit with the banks and got my semi-truck nice. Just real
02:37:26.100thank you. Speedy, did you hear that Uganda is sending some of their troops to fight in
02:37:29.480Gaza? Yeah, Uganda supports Israel, I think. Anyway. All right. Can I fast forward this
02:37:38.560shit bro with a projectile from the miniature explosive and his microphone the explosive was
02:37:49.660purchased in may 2025 from the accurate energetic systems plant in tennessee literally one month
02:37:58.140later they blew up the plant that created it the accurate energetic systems plant this was a couple
02:38:05.500days after the exploding mic theory went viral some believe they did this to cover up all the
02:38:12.300evidence also 16 people died in the process and it was one of the deadliest munitions blast within
02:38:20.260the last 100 years the entire facility was leveled right after the lapel exploded you'll see guys
02:38:29.720from his team and that was the first thing they went and did right after they went and grabbed the
02:38:34.720mic and they went and grabbed the sd card out the camera also if you look at the problem is i can't
02:38:40.700see the mic i'm looking at images right now and i can't see the mic that he used uh rokan i think
02:38:45.540it's important to know mine that she was getting worked up and if he pressed her more she would
02:38:48.780have flipped out and ended it the field it looks like a menorah all right bro okay let's get it to
02:38:55.820the let's get it let's get it to the news bro uh in new york city where luigi all right so luigi
02:39:05.660man johnny as you guys know uh the guy that killed for those of you guys that don't know
02:39:09.120quick recap early i think late last year early this year if i'm not mistaken um
02:39:17.520uh luigi mangione allegedly shot the uh the head of united healthcare okay who uh which
02:39:29.220obviously it's an insurance company and what ended up happening was um you saw the surveillance
02:39:35.360footage comes up behind shoots a couple shots kills him a manhunt ensues looking for this guy
02:39:41.160in new york city a couple of days later they find him in a rural part of pennsylvania uh police look
02:39:46.780police encounter him they question him they search his bag some of the stuff that was found in the
02:39:50.980bag was later found to be um you know not admissible it got struck out and fast forward
02:39:57.960luigi ends up getting indicted by both the state and the feds the fbi put together a stalking and
02:40:04.180murder case and obviously the state of muir put together a premeditated murder one case okay um
02:40:10.600And so that is the general gist on facts of the case. He is a graduate of University of Pennsylvania, UPenn, Ivy League school. Guy is bright, very smart. You know, for a while he had been missing. His family was trying to find him, et cetera.
02:40:27.620um so uh and he also has a lot of support uh luigi mangioni's pretty much brought up the topic
02:40:34.240of uh universal health care in america as you guys know um we have an insurance-based health
02:40:38.920care system where a lot of people don't get the care that they need a lot of the times
02:40:42.020and uh you know people argue hey people die needlessly etc so he's had an enormous amount
02:40:48.120of supporters um in his in his corner okay an enormous amount of supporters so um
02:40:55.600you know women show up to his uh court hearings all the time a lot of progressives show up
02:41:02.120because luigi um whether you like him or not um or whether you think he's guilty or not has
02:41:08.480forced the conversation on health care in america or he's brought it up and it's been a topic of
02:41:14.500discussion now over the past couple of years i would argue it's actually led to the rise of the
02:41:20.360DSA or the Diplomatic Socialist Movement, okay, or I said diplomatic, excuse me, Democratic Socialist Movement, DSA, people like Hassan Piker and Kyle Kulinski, et cetera, you know, have talked about, hey, universal health care is a right, it's a human right, health care for all, blah, blah, blah, and this case has sparked up this conversation.
02:41:42.840Another thing also that was important from this criminal case is that in the shooting,
02:41:49.520Luigi showed, he basically inscribed in the bullets, deposed, deny, and delay.
02:41:57.900These are quotes from a famous book on health care.
02:43:53.800The public location wasn't posted, but he researched to learn the location and who would be there.
02:44:02.260This is him now in court speaking to the judge in this allocution.
02:44:08.000This is the part for the judge to decide whether or not she is going to accept this plea.
02:44:13.560And he's now describing in his own words how he was stalking United CEO of health care, Brian Thompson, saying that he learned of where he was going.
02:44:25.520J-9-9 BP, appreciate you with the gifted sub, my friend.
02:49:52.220Gain widespread attention after being found ran on bullet casings recovered at the 2024 fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.
02:49:57.580It plays on delay, deny, defend, a well-known corporate critique of insurance industry tactics.
02:50:02.760or yeah or because he put delay deny depose
02:50:09.820but it comes from this because i'm almost starting on luigi mangioni's thing he put
03:00:50.800Well, Pamela, Luigi Mangione was led into the courtroom.
03:00:53.680He's wearing a great beige prison outfit,
03:00:55.980escorted by two U.S. Marshals where he sat down between his attorneys.
03:01:00.040The judge went through the process, asking him if he understood his rights,
03:01:03.740if he had taken any medication, if he was under any medical care.
03:01:07.420All of his answers were crisp and clear.
03:01:10.120Someone who was definitely in control and aware of what was going on today.
03:01:14.520and then when she started to ask him the specifics of his guilty plea to explain what he had done
03:01:20.520that was wrong, Mangione chose to stay seated and he started to read from a piece of paper.
03:01:25.780The judge actually stopped him and asked him to slow down because he was going too quickly through
03:01:30.260it. But a few things that stood out to me from what he said is he started it by saying after
03:01:34.960years of enduring severe pain for a broken back, navigating obstacles in the health care system,
03:01:41.260So underscoring, again, what his motive here in this case is.
03:01:45.300And he walked through it saying another thing he's underscoring, what he had previously written about in those writings, the greed of the health care industry.
03:01:52.900He said he had emailed UnitedHealthcare's leadership trying to find out.
04:13:01.400I have no problem defending the state's case
04:13:03.280and welcome Candace bringing up any challenges she would like,
04:13:05.720but if I'm honest, the reason I was willing to pay the $300,000 for this debate
04:13:09.880was to finally have a chance for someone to demand Candace be held accountable
04:13:12.860for the unbelievable theories and claims she's been making.
04:13:15.420Candace's investigation is indistinguishable from a leftist operation.
04:13:18.900She couldn't be doing more damage to the right if she were trying.
04:13:21.580She uses her considerable platform to relentlessly attack one of the most influential conservative outreach organizations for young people.
04:13:26.840She's making a mockery of the online right wing commentary class.
04:13:29.880She's harming Republicans in an election year by dividing them.
04:13:32.160She's attacking the very organization Charlie spent his life building.
04:13:34.940And she's attacking the people he loved, including his wife.
04:13:37.240And it cost me three hundred thousand dollars.
04:13:38.840But today I hope that she finally answers for some of that.
04:13:58.980Well, I'm not going to waste time with the preamble because I think I just want to get to the substance of the debate and I will just speak to the audience.
04:14:04.200I've obviously had an audience since we've been covering this case.
04:14:07.380People know that there was a personal friendship between me and Charlie and diminishing the pursuit of something that makes sense regarding what happened on September 10th by throwing it to this is just people who are conspiracy theorists.
04:14:19.320These are people who are just trying to generate clicks.
04:14:21.860I don't think that people should be satisfied by that.
04:14:24.260I want people to remember that it's important to think.
04:14:25.980We've been lied to by the government a great many times over, I mean, just the last couple
04:27:05.160one of the first things we saw was this push to make us all think and remember how much he loved
04:27:09.720israel it's because the prime minister of israel who's fighting like a 27 front and to be fair
04:27:14.120patrick just got dragged into this right they it seems like they already had a contract in place
04:27:18.300right where time rounds were not a part of it so war felt that he needed to come do a little
04:27:27.720mini tour and to be strangely to state that i did not kill charlie kirk when nobody um was having
04:27:33.940that thought that I can remember. Nobody was going, I wonder if Bibi Netanyahu killed Charlie
04:27:37.020Kirk. And then we had a round of influencers who lied and said Charlie was not changing on Israel,
04:27:43.880that he wasn't having any disagreements regarding that topic, that the day he died,
04:27:47.460he just loved Israel so much. And I demonstrated via the text message, which you just mentioned,
04:27:51.640and you're now contextualizing and pretending it was just about Dr. Carlson, which is not true.
04:27:55.420It was a part of a broader shift that Charlie was having over the last, I would say, actually,
04:27:59.440on your show it began um since october 7th which is when i began asking myself more questions about
04:28:04.540israel as well uh and so yeah when all of these things happen the immediate aftermath and then i
04:28:09.100drop a text message after everyone is denying that tucker carlson then comes out and confirms
04:28:12.400the conversations that he had with charlie megan kelly then comes out and confirms the private
04:28:15.720conversations that she had with charlie people then begin to ask a reasonable question which is
04:28:19.900why are we lying about this if they were forthcoming with that and they had said hey
04:28:24.420Yeah, Charlie was starting to ask questions. I think after October 7th, it's reasonable that people are starting to reexamine our relationship with Israel. We wouldn't be here today. But it has been lie after lie after lie, debunk after debunk after debunk. Yes, I did share that I had a dream that Charlie was betrayed. It's not a dream anymore. It's a reality. I look at what the organization has become, the people that they are partnering with, the lies that they are telling, the extraordinary people that they're sending out to say that I never saw.
04:28:48.880But yeah, each party is going to just dig deeper into their thing.
04:28:52.640But anyone that's a neutral viewer or tries to be unbiased, you're not going to really walk away with this from anything.
04:28:59.860This will just solidify, if you're in a Candace camp, you're going to be solidified more with her.
04:29:03.260If you're in a Andrew camp, you're going to be more solidified with him.
05:11:25.260So who gives a fuck about their opinion if we're going to be a thousand
05:11:28.180So you're watching the best fucking person on this thing
05:11:32.640So you go watch from the Shadow Room, faggot, where you can't comment.
05:11:36.300You're going to sit there like the fucking retard that you are.
05:11:40.720Said in his text messages, you'll be able to see me on security footage at the camp.
05:11:45.060Because everyone else that's going to break this down is either going to be, A, stuck in their position and their ways because they have a huge financial incentive to do so, like a Barron Coleman, like an Ian Carroll, et cetera.
05:11:54.700They're the ones that pushed this narrative, so they had to stay there.
05:29:16.760And this was a very good demonstration of the 30-odd-six.
05:29:22.740And this is the importance, guys, of reserving judgment, looking at the evidence, you know,
05:29:29.980and being objective because the problem here is that both sides hate the other side
05:29:39.360so what ends up happening is like they're not willing to listen to the other side's take
05:29:43.420and that's why this fucking debate pissed me off so much because i wasn't able to fucking
05:29:47.340really get a full-on grasp of each person's side i'll show you guys quickly the video
05:29:54.360So about a 30-out-six, and again, this is why I think the alternative theorists, Valhalla and Candace Owens and Ian Carroll and Baron Coleman camp, this is their strongest piece of evidence to dispute the official narrative.
05:30:09.020So what Valhalla did, which I'll give him credit, is he went ahead and he replicated the exact shooting scenario and conditions that Tyler Robinson shot the shot.
05:30:24.360And we'll just let the video do the talking.
05:35:11.960We got cow vertebraes wrapped in meat.
05:35:13.380We're going to test all of it, and again, this will be the closest recreation to the shot Tyler Robinson took on the internet, wouldn't we say?
05:35:22.480I would say it's the closest we're going to get.
05:35:24.280Without using a real live human being, all right?
05:35:26.020So that's what we're going to do, and here we go.
05:35:29.500So we're going to hope, well, Brad's going to show me how to raise him up, and then we're going to get him up on this perch, and we're going to start our testing.
05:43:22.300You could tell from the tattoos that she is a liberal, a flaming liberal.
05:43:29.180What's going on, but there have been murmurs of a possible plea deal.
05:43:32.980And how do you feel about that possible plea deal?
05:43:35.220I've always said I support Luigi whether or not he did it.
05:43:38.700So for me, I always knew this could be on the table, so I wouldn't really be phased by one.
05:43:43.420Some people are saying it's a legal tactic to maybe set up a potential double jeopardy situation for New York State Court to protect him from that.
06:05:42.360Mamdani dominated social media to become the, you know, the mayor of New York City,
06:05:49.980which is an extremely powerful position because you're the mayor of the most influential,
06:05:55.800and you can make the argument, geographically relevant location in the United States.
06:06:01.860And that obviously created a domino effect in the Democratic Party.
06:06:04.860And people are realizing that the old guard Democrats, your Kamala Harris's, your Joe Biden's, your Barack Obama's, et cetera, where you have a very, you know, old way of thinking where it's like, we're going to be more in the middle.
06:06:21.060You know, we're going to be for capitalism.
06:06:23.600You know, we're going to still support Israel.
06:07:53.980And when I was there in the space, Destiny was in there and a bunch of Democrats.
06:07:57.360And it was kind of funny because I was watching them discuss the morphing of their political party from, you know, traditional Democrats to socialists.
06:08:13.820So let's see this clip with Hassan here.
06:08:17.600I hope that—does that make all sense for you guys, the power of social media and why the Democrat Party is changing?
06:12:56.660with these democrat socialists they're too dumb to realize yeah top page did solve all that that's
06:13:03.400true they're too dumb to realize that if you're going to implement socialism it only works with
06:13:11.440nationalism attached to it as well as strict borders and immigration policy
06:13:17.360because you can't give everybody free health care bro can't give everybody free access bro
06:13:23.700Can't do it. Can only give it to your own citizens, which means you got to have what? Strict immigration and strict border control. And this is the fault in Hasan Piker and Mamdani's rhetoric, because these guys are too pussy to be real nigger socialists and understand that you need to implement hardcore border control and immigration.
06:13:47.280to be able to do that without national prog endorsements
06:13:54.360it's all the better so remember when people try to discourage you in this moment be like okay
06:14:02.620i'm sure okay it seems like you're very mad for some reason uh for for something that is
06:14:08.440utterly immaterial you seem very upset if we are to be ignored why do you spend such a good deal
06:14:15.440of time worrying about what we're doing so yeah the the battle might be lost but the war is not
06:14:22.760over and we will win absolutely a lot of this discouragement here today it's disappointing
06:14:27.680i'm hopeful for a more progressive future guys guys you're being delusional and not in a good
06:14:33.440way sometimes it's good to be a little delusional right but you are fucking insane if you think that
06:37:53.500Right before you see the red slit open on Charlie's neck, black glass in the truck, truck sold quick, murder scene dug up, blah, blah, blah.
07:00:32.600Go to the Barghouti family when they did a huge, huge, huge scandal when they actually, Barghouti said that the women in Gaza is sort of like a factory for babies.
07:00:45.740Yeah. And now the Barghouti family needed to apologize in whole in the West Bank.
07:00:50.260So today, the amount of Palestinians in Gaza is still two million people.
07:00:55.920But it was it was two point two to two point five before the bombing.
07:04:30.340Have American journalists died over in Gaza?
07:04:32.320You're trying to get out of what I'm trying to reach the point.
07:04:34.840I'm just trying to understand your position.
07:04:36.260So I've been spot on with what he's going to say, bro.
07:04:40.080Bro, bro took the, he's taking a Nick Mottol has borrowed a talking point about it's not a genocide because we destroyed 80% of the infrastructure, but we didn't kill 80% of the people, which is fucking ludicrous.
07:04:50.600I'm going to debunk that for you guys here.
07:04:51.960I just want to make sure that he gets his entire argument out.
07:04:55.020You're saying Israel is committing genocide and we dropped 200K bombs, destroyed 70% to 80% of their facilities, of their buildings, and their infrastructure.
07:05:03.160And yet there is 2 million Gazans today still living.
07:06:10.220And this is exactly why, despite the fact that this is what the UK did in Israel, not only we did quite, not 180 degree, but the fact is that we managed...
07:06:21.940I'm not arguing that the United States isn't guilty of war crimes or genocide itself.
07:06:26.640By the way, now I understand more, but let me just clarify, if I wasn't clarifying enough.
07:06:32.900The bomb on Dresden, it was necessary to beat the Nazi regime.
07:17:20.200he didn't know anything about the dancing israelis or he tried to deny he was like oh
07:17:26.880well were they were they really dancing they were celebrating like he was trying to argue
07:17:30.600me about whether they were dancing or not like what
07:17:34.660making an argument out of shit that doesn't matter shit that's not pertinent
07:17:41.220and that's what they do that's what they do
07:17:45.380so yeah he yeah he mentioned yeah i said yeah i was like bro they don't got to be
07:17:54.440fucking moonwalking to be dancing you fucking retard incredible bro incredible
07:17:59.260and all and the only people that watch them are stupid zionist jews that agree with it's not the
07:18:07.660genocide all right bro it comes in and you blame israel it's just a little holocaust it's just a
07:18:12.820little sacrifice in order to justify an all-out war now let me say this what's your comment on
07:18:18.740the united states let me finish yes what are the terrorist organization yes they are so so you do
07:18:24.280believe what they did was a terrorist act i do believe okay i really hope i'm just waiting one
07:18:28.320100,000%. Hamas is a terrorist organization. October 7th was a terrorist act. The United States, the reasons why we are the greatest supporter of Israel is because they provide the greatest intelligence in the region to the United States, not Egypt.
07:18:44.000No, that's not why. It's because Jews run America. That's why.
07:18:50.060That's why we support them as much as we do.
07:18:53.680Their intelligence, honestly, if it weren't for the bullshit that they engage in, we wouldn't need their intelligence.
07:18:59.800I gave you guys the cockroach analogy before. I don't want to repeat it unless you guys really want me to give it to you.
07:19:05.460But the Israelis create the problems, then they give us the solution, and they can't even fix the fucking, they can't even give us the solution half the time.
07:19:12.460They gave us like 80% of the solution.
07:22:03.780I'm going to stick with that because for me saying that,
07:22:06.500If you have the intelligence to know what about to happen and then you allowed it to happen because you just want to say, oh, you know what?
07:33:25.560bro you guys gotta understand that these guys are
07:33:27.240fucking nobodies dude that guy's a fucking nobody he's been trying to go so hard and uh the guy
07:33:33.940shout out to you bro but yeah that guy's been trying to go so hard against the red bone it's
07:33:37.520like bro you got no emotion you're a fucking weirdo nobody watches your content your content
07:33:41.920sucks like shut up dude the fact you have no self-control is really unbelievable who is a
07:33:49.340palestinian i'm asking you why are you not answering this because it's irrelevant to your
07:33:54.340claim right now. Why do you think it's irrelevant? How did you decide it's irrelevant? You didn't even explain your claim. You didn't explain your claim. I don't want to play a definition game. What do you mean? I want to understand. Explain your claim. You said your claim. What is that? Explain how is that relevant? How is that relevant? How is that? How is that relevant? Okay. What's an Israeli? What's an Israeli that if we're going to play this game? You motherfuckers didn't come out until 1948. What's an Israeli?
07:34:24.340today how is that relevant to your claim i will tell you if you answer so say it how is that
07:34:29.620relevant to your claim say you don't know i want you see this is the thing you don't want you're
07:34:33.960not used to being held accountable okay you're not used to being held accountable you're not used to
07:34:38.180lying you're not used to asking you're used to fucking you're a fucking loser and now actually
07:34:43.320okay i'm a loser i'm a loser brother i'm great answer the question what is the palestinian you
07:34:48.580are an embarrassment i'm an embarrassment do you understand i'm an explain your claim the fact
07:34:53.620embarrassment the fact that the fact that anybody would trust you you guys are debating don't get me
07:34:59.520come on man i have to a constant moderator man totally appeal to him because i'm appealing you
07:35:06.060are so weak you are so unbelievably weak you are what is it i'm also weak and i'm saying exactly
07:35:12.080you can't you can't stand up for yourself also guys smash the like button smash that like button
07:35:17.660on youtube you can't what is a palestinian again explain your claim