Candace Owens vs 20 Feminists And Nick Fuentes vs Dinesh D'Souza!
Episode Stats
Length
8 hours and 17 minutes
Words per Minute
193.62625
Hate Speech Sentences
988
Summary
On this episode of The OSS, Jake and I discuss the upcoming debates between Candace Owens and Dinesh Souza, and Nick Fuentes and Danyel Souza. We also talk about some of Jake's recent trip to Las Vegas.
Transcript
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And then obviously we got the camera angle up there, which I'm going to fix that one too.
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But yeah, I'm going to get with TPC and continue to do with TPC and continue to make this shit better.
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Also, guys, I'm probably going to get new cameras.
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This camera I'm recording on right here, this is Sony FX3.
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And you guys know I share with y'all my setup and shit like that.
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This one's like a Sony A7R, which I think I got to move this shit a little bit.
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You guys can see all the crap I got going on over here, man.
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See, everybody wants to go ahead and do streams and shit like that.
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I got this thing over here to help out with making sure I got the different angles.
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I got the kick over here and Rumble Studio and OBS and all this shit, man.
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So, hey, man, the reason why I show y'all that is to let you guys know that I take this
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You guys invest in me, so I'm going to invest back.
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I'm going to make sure that the show gets better and better and better.
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So, you know, and then there's like another three or four screens that y'all can't even
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So, you know, I truly do appreciate you guys joining the OSS, supporting.
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I want you guys to see that what y'all put in, you know, I'm putting in two and making
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So, definitely going to upgrade some of these cameras as well from like the Sony A7R to
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I'll slowly start getting them because the FX3s are expensive.
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But yeah, so today, guys, we're going to be covering two different things.
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And then I know my guy, Nick Fuentes, is going to debate Dinesh Souza.
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I think it's 7 p.m. Central time, which is going to be about an hour for us over here
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So, shout out to my guy, Brett, and a bunch of guys in there.
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Just so you guys know, obviously, Discord, there's going to be moderating in there and
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stuff because, you know, I know some of y'all niggas are crazy going to say some wild shit
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But we also got a Telegram for the active members.
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If you guys become active members of Council Club, only $4 to join, by the way, for the
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And you get the merch discounts because the merch is coming out, by the way.
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This is one of the hoodies right here that I'm wearing.
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If you guys want that, you guys are going to get discounts, but it's only going to be
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When I put out the promo, me and Brett are going to be militant about it.
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We're going to put out the promo code only, man, we're going to put it out only to like
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certain people, like certain people that are active members to make sure it doesn't
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Joining OSS is only $4 for the month, and then $10 after that.
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And then if you want to get in for the year, it's $75, running the sale until July 4th.
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It goes up to $10 from there, and then it's going to stay there.
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So, you guys don't got to worry about prices going up or whatever.
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Remember, the main reason, guys, and I get a lot of questions about this.
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So, the main reason why, guys, I'm going to be very, very painfully blunt and honest with
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you guys about this, because you guys know I'm very transparent.
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And for the better part of several years, this channel used to be a true crime channel,
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Once a week, I'd get on, cover a case, get off, right?
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I only did true crime on here, you know, based on my background.
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But I noticed that you guys like to see, like, the other sides of the things that I look
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I'll start covering some political commentary and some true crime as well, kind of combining
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I think we're about to cross 100,000 subscribers in just seven months, guys.
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So, you know, we're going to cross 100,000 subscribers in seven months.
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A lot of you guys have told me, you stop watching the news.
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You basically just watch me now for your news, which is like, you know, I take that very
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So, in order for me to justify, right, the amount of time that I'm putting in and the
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research and all that effort that goes in behind the show, as you guys can see with
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Obviously, I need to be able to ensure that we're operating the black so that we can continue
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I just fucking, it's the first amount I just spent like easily, what?
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Like $16,000, $17,000 for just to run this channel alone, you know what I mean?
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For my clippers and getting people paid and everything else like that.
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Because, guys, I got like a team, we got like, Brett has a team of clippers that works
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You guys like those clips that you guys see with like the B-roll and all that shit while
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Then, I got my other guy that like, you know, does my regular clips.
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That's just like shorts and, you know, stuff for Instagram and shit like that, like reels.
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So, doing that and expanding the channel, you obviously have to invest.
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So, like for a while, since I was only doing it once a week, I was just putting my own
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But, my thing is you guys really enjoy like the crime breakdowns, whatever.
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So, I'm like, all right, if I'm going to really take this seriously and put more time in,
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we got to be able to operate this thing like a business.
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So, that's why we're putting the OSS to combat.
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Also, the other thing, too, that you have to deal with, and this is for anyone that wants
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to be a podcaster or be a creator in the future.
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If you cover, if you're a conservative, right, and you have any type of political views that
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are considered right-wing or alt-right or far-right, you're pretty much going to be on
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the chopping block for censorship to some degree.
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That's just kind of something I've learned over the past.
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Like, unless you're like a Charlie Kirk and you got like the president backing you, bro,
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Like, very few conservatives that are actually based actually stay up on all platforms without
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So, the way you combat that is you got to have alternate platforms where you're always
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able to generate revenue regardless of them censoring you.
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As you guys know, I got banned on fucking Twitch.
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Been demonetized on YouTube for like two years now.
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So, and a lot of that is because we have the OSS army.
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The OSS army allows it where we don't need fucking YouTube revenue, right?
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As long as like 50% of the audience is fuck what else on OSS, I'll take the 50% hit.
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Like, I'm losing like fucking 50, 200K a month on YouTube easy with the amount of views I'm
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I've showed you guys my dashboard before and we don't need to go through that shit anymore.
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Make sure that we can continue to run this thing at a high level.
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I can, you know, research stuff, spend more time, make the content better, get out clips
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and shorts because you guys know we're doing, you know, five, six, seven, eight hour long
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We're able to chop that shit up into really high quality clips and put it back out.
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So, I'm going to ensure that we continue to, I see some of you guys saying fuck JTube.
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Yo, a lot of you guys like really fucking support me and fuck with me and you guys see that
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Especially when, like, they're demonetizing me for shit that other niggas be doing.
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But that's fine because whether we get remonetized or not, like, we built infrastructure where
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Anything at this point, we want it to be where we're self-sufficient no matter what.
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So, it's about building that parallel infrastructure where they can't do nothing to you.
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Anyone, any of you guys want to become a podcast or any of this other shit, you got to
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That's the number one tip I can give to anybody that wants to get into this line, bro.
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Because the censorship is fucking outrageous, man.
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Some people in the chat are saying, what does OSS mean?
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That means that we got a lot of new people in here.
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And then we're going to go ahead and get right into the Candace Owens debate from yesterday.
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And then we can literally, we can go to YouTube headquarters at that point and say, fuck you guys.
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OneChess says, 372 members, OSS Discord so far in 24 hours.
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And for sure, man, on 500 by July 4th when the merch launch.
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For a lot of you guys that don't know, OneChess is one of the homies.
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Thank you so much, dude, for supporting for as long as you have.
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And I'll try to make it out there to Chicago in August.
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Maybe I go out there and set up a fucking table.
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Maybe I go out there and set up a fucking table.
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Mr. B says, bro, this is the best audio we've had so far.
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It's so good that we can hear your breath super clean.
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I tested on J-Tube, locals, rumble, and even with speaker on Bluetooth headphones.
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Let's surf that mountain J and skip them haters.
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Mr. B93, I think you're an audio engineer, aren't you?
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Not gonna lie, he was absolutely cooking an extremely sharp yesterday on After Hours.
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So, you know, we're still gonna cook today, though.
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Gabby D says, bro, did you see that Trump called Candace Bursley to ask her to stop talking
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We're trying to find a way to do the Mordecai coming up, you know, with the...
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We're trying to find a way to do it on fucking Rumble.
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Guapogi says, thank you, Myron, for giving everyone in the chat the N-word pass.
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I'm gonna put this somewhere else so it doesn't block Mordecai, man.
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Also, just so you guys know, if you guys want to go ahead and, you know, get involved in the show,
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MyronGamesX.com is the website to Super Chat Two Ninjas.
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I feel like I got a lot of shit on the screen, but, nah.
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So, Radek, if you can find out a way that we can get Mordecai on Locals and on Rumble, let me know, bro.
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Hey, man, I just want to tell you, say that it's an absolute honor to finally become an OSS member.
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Gone on my dark days of brokiehood, trapped among the greasy, obese, freeloader masses on YouTube, desperately clawing for crumbs.
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I've now ascended liberator from their peasant life, and it feels magnificent to be king.
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Bro, just so you guys know, the OSS chat is crazy, bro.
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But, guys, Castle Club guys, I've been told y'all, though, I'm going to start migrating.
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This is probably going to be the last week that I stream the debrief on Castle Club, right?
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I want to keep Fresh and Fit and OSS separate, you know, because...
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I'm working on something with Jacob to help in the background.
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Bro, if you could make some funny gifs and shit like that, that'd be great.
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Not going to lie, that JD nigga got cooked yesterday.
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Like, you can go watch it on Jubilee if you want.
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Big dudes at Casio Carry can work on permits soon.
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Just let me know when you want to pull the trigger on that for Chicago band drill music.
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Let me know the days that y'all want to meet up there, and then we'll fucking work around
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Voted 50-50 on President Trump's mega bill with Vice President JD casting a tie-breaking
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Bro, I'm telling you, that's where the real niggas are at in the OSS.
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And as you guys can see, I read all the chats on OSS.
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I only read $5 minimums on Rumble or MyronGainsX.com, but if you're on OSS, I read them all.
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Owen says here, hope you're having a great day, Maren.
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I wanted to know your view on investing in ETFs.
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Get a basic one, bro, that tracks the S&P 500, and you're good.
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When it comes to index funds and shit like that, guys, just invest in shit that either
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Put money in it and never look at that shit again, bro.
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I had to invest in index funds on Fresh and Fit.
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Type in index funds, Fresh and Fit, and I go over the ones that I use.
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Like, I think I got like VT Sacks, which covers the total stock market, and then like
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Because the goal is you put the money in and you never look at it again.
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When it comes to like index funds and shit, that's like old nigga money.
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You put that money in there and just like let the compound interest work out.
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You know, if these them boys can do it, you can do it too, right?
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All right, let's go ahead and go on YouTube real quick.
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I also feel that they found him not guilty with respect to sex trafficking of Jane, partially
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because they didn't have any questions, any readback...
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As you guys know for the Diddy case, bro, literally, they're deliberating now, chat.
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With respect to Jane, that is suspect, to say the least.
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Again, Sapa, do you think Diddy will serve any time in jail if he's convicted of sex trafficking
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I think he's definitely going to serve some time in jail.
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So all of the time that he has spent in custody is counting towards any sentence that he ultimately
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might be sentenced to by this particular judge.
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He's looking at if he's only convicted of those counts and not of the RICO of up to 15 years.
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And so, in terms of sentencing, there are going to be a number of factors that go into
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The judge can take a number of things into consideration, including, you know, some of
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I think I'm still going to be louder than the thing, but I'm playing it now.
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A investigation that digs into his life and things of that nature that will help guide
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the judge into what his sentence is going to be.
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You're also going to have Mr. Combs' attorneys putting together a mitigation package, which
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essentially would humanize Mr. Combs to the judge to say, give him the most lenient sentence
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...reasons the government, of course, we can expect is going to come in and ask for the
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maximum, especially if they lose on that RICO charge.
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By the way, I said that we have incredible viewers.
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Watched every single day of the 33 days from Lagos, Nigeria.
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I want to get Sierra Gillespie in, so I know we're working on getting her up as soon as we
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I'll jump in and also we might be trying to get Elizabeth Milner up as well, trying to
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All right, I'm fine tuning it right now for you guys making it louder.
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...go to jail even if they are hung on one count.
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I mean, if they're guilty on another count, yes.
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I mean, if it's all not guilty and hung, no, he's not going to jail.
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And here's what's interesting about if they're hung on the RICO charge, what's so very interesting
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is if you're going to find him guilty of a sex trafficking concerning Cassie, those
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predicate crimes, are they much easier to prove at that point?
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I mean, if you're saying, hey, yeah, he's guilty on sex trafficking with Cassie, to your
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point, which you were discussing that you think that he might be guilty on the sex trafficking
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with Cassie, I think it would be a lot easier to get that RICO charge and get a guilty on
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Shout out to Unforgiven again with The Give This Up.
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We're almost at 3,000, by the way, for our goal, guys, on kick.
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I know my audio is good, but I turned up the USB audio for the video.
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You know, I'll even turn it up a tad more for you, ninjas.
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If it's good, I'm going to give it like 10 seconds.
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Give me O slashes, then we'll never have to fine tune this shit ever again.
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Because if you're saying, yeah, he sex trafficked her.
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He distributed pills because, you know, she said that he handed me pills and he handed me drugs.
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It's easier to get to that guilty on RICO than a split on the RICO.
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And a guilty on the trafficking, unless they're just splitting the baby.
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It's just, it is a very, to me, this is a very unique way that the jury has been looking at the case.
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And I, like I said before, I love, love, love Mark's closing, where he was saying, you know,
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This is the government looking for the crime and finding the guy.
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This isn't all of a sudden a victim came forward and then they're like, let's investigate this.
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No matter what the outcome is here, I think the defense did a very, very nice job with what they had and what they had to work with.
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I'm going to call you on Zoom after the stream, TPC, so that we can finish the video.
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TPC OSS member, one of my guys, he's the one that's responsible for this video stuff that you guys see.
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So if you're in the Orlando area, you need a videographer.
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You need a videographer in Central Florida area.
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All right, I got the video right here as well for you guys.
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Okay, this is a video that you guys were saying about Candace.
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They say, look, I, again, and the messenger here, what I was told from somebody that's pretty high up at the White House is that,
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Emmanuel Macron is holding up negotiations to end the Russian and Ukrainian war.
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What do you mean negotiations between Russia and Ukraine?
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Hey, shout out to you, DPG, with the 10 gifted, bro.
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I'm just like, you know, looking into a story at my house.
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We've got a very small team here, and you're telling me that somehow negotiations are being held up.
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For those that are wondering, DPG is helping me out with getting you guys some dog tags.
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Okay, we got something that makes right now for you guys.
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I know you guys said you guys wanted some dog tags, so OSS, we're going to have some dog tags for you, ninjas, very soon.
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So that's coming very, very soon, ninjas, very, very soon.
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And then I'm asking myself in my mind, because I hang up this phone, and I am in true shock.
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Did Emmanuel Macron pretend to fly into D.C. under the guise of negotiations, the Russian-Ukraine war,
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and then instruct someone on his entourage to have an off-the-books discussion, a little meeting on the side,
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maybe somebody, again, like a Susie Wiles, where he made his truer demands.
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I know you guys heard that one, that falcon punch, baby.
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Doing anything until that little podcast, her Candace, agrees to shut her mouth.
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Yeah, guys, I purposely have my volume louder than the video so that you guys can hear me over the video if I talk.
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So I say, we end the conversation, I say, I'm going to sleep on this.
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I remember I get into bed, and I just turn to my husband, and I say,
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Bro, that is crazy that, bro, wants the war to continue because Candace is making fun of his wife?
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Like, support like that is how I'm able to do this show.
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So you guys should all be thanking DPG right now.
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And I got the pleasure to meet him a couple weeks back.
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He actually came out to one of our live events when we were doing the table.
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I think, DPG, when you were out there when them boys came and attacked, were you there
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I think you're going to be down here in Miami with us soon, too.
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They're going to go to the Candace stuff because obviously the guys, they're getting a partial
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This is acquitted or there is a hung jury as to racketeering conspiracy.
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Will the prosecution be kicking themselves for not bringing her on?
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You know, I can't say exactly why they didn't call her as a witness on the stand to testify.
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Certainly, if I was on the prosecution team, I would want to call her as a witness to testify,
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particularly because I think she locks in that criminal enterprise component that people
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would ideally be looking for with respect to the RICO charge.
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You know, she could have been just a really bad witness for the prosecution or they may
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have thought that she would have been a really bad witness for them considering her alleged
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participation in these acts, you know, whether or not she was going to be truthful, whether
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or not she was going to come off as a likable and honest witness to the potential jurors.
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You know, she could have been a part of the initial investigation, a part of, you know,
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what ultimately ended up in the search warrant application to go into Mr. Combs' home by the
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And I don't know that she's testified in grand jury.
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I didn't have any information that led me to believe and I could be wrong.
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I would have certainly called her, but she could just be, you know, a bad witness that
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they were worried about the jury considering her when she was to go testify, if she were
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Especially from Bradford Cohen, Professor Cohen.
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They didn't call KK because they were not, she was not going to be helpful to them.
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Um, they spoke with KK is Diddy's right-hand assistant, guys, that was there for everything.
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Several witnesses, several witnesses called my office.
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In fact, uh, I'm not going to disclose any kind of information that they gave me, but I
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can tell you that their testimony was not helpful to the government.
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And once the government found that out, the government decided not to use them.
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So the government spoke to tens and tens of witnesses.
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And I just so happened, I don't know why, uh, maybe I'm a witness magnet, uh, but a lot
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of witnesses called my office in terms of representation.
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Obviously there was some, uh, representation that I could not take on because of conflicts,
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but I can tell you that a lot of the witnesses that I spoke to were not helpful for the government.
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And therefore they were never called by the government.
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Although they spoke to the government, although they gave statements to the government, the government
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decided not to use them because they were not going to be helpful to their case.
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In fact, they were probably going to hurt their case.
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Some of the things that they were going to say were not necessarily helpful to the defense.
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So it's one of those things that you're stuck as a defense attorney.
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Do you really want to put on that individual witness?
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Is the juice, you know, is the juice worth the squeeze?
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And for those that are wondering, the defense did not put any witnesses.
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They felt as though their cross-examination on the government's witnesses suffice to create
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And remember guys, in the American justice system, as a defendant, you don't have any
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It's the government that's bringing the case where the burden is on them to prove you guilty
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And in this case, the juice was not worth the squeeze.
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I think the defense put on a very nice case in terms of cross-examination of the witnesses,
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in terms of the individual texts that they brought up, in terms of the receipts that they
00:40:57.620
had, in terms of the Instagram posts that they had.
00:41:00.740
Those, all those things, while not putting on, quote unquote, a case, that is the case that
00:41:11.000
In the sense that she might've been not the link they needed to establish there was a
00:41:16.240
criminal enterprise, that there was a criminal agreement.
00:41:18.980
She might've, her testimony might've really hurt that idea.
00:41:21.800
But like you said, maybe she helps with drug offenses.
00:41:25.120
Maybe she helps with bribery and there are going to be components of that case.
00:41:31.520
We have with us Elizabeth Milner, who was inside the courthouse.
00:41:38.680
All right, guys, we're going to segue, uh, I just want to hear what she's got to say.
00:41:46.580
We got this question that came out from Elizabeth.
00:41:59.080
How did the jury look when they came into the room?
00:42:05.520
Yeah, as far as the tone and the atmosphere inside that courtroom, Jesse, it was so quiet.
00:42:12.360
I would say you could hear a pen draw, but really all you could hear were the sounds of the court sketch artist really just kind of drawing her painting.
00:42:18.660
Because I remember coming in, and normally I come in around, like, 4.15-ish, because I was thinking, okay, at the end of the day, their jury's probably going to go, want to go home around 5.
00:42:26.680
But then there was this tone, this feeling, um, inside.
00:42:32.480
You saw, um, Anna Maria Esteval's arm kind of around Tenney.
00:42:38.320
Always hesitant to say that he looks defeated, or he looks worried, or he looks nervous.
00:42:43.680
I think once that jury note came down, once he saw that actual note about, because he, he got the clues before we got the clues, as far as, um, they reached a verdict on count two, three, four, and five.
00:42:54.540
I think there was kind of a moment of nervousness.
00:42:57.360
I felt like you could feel the weight on his shoulder.
00:42:59.720
And then at first I was thinking, oh my God, if they're about to read a verdict, where is his entire family?
00:43:05.340
And guys, we are streaming on 4K on Rumble, man.
00:43:08.040
So if you guys are watching on Rumble or on YouTube, we're streaming in 4K, man.
00:43:12.860
So, uh, you guys should be able to enjoy better quality on either one of those platforms if you choose.
00:43:22.700
So wherever you guys want to watch, you know, it's up to you.
00:43:25.260
But we're streaming 4K on Rumble and on YouTube.
00:43:28.000
Some that we haven't seen this morning inside the courtroom start to kind of trickle in.
00:43:45.280
I was thinking at a point that they would just read the verdict.
00:43:49.340
Obviously, everyone, they did not read the verdict.
00:43:52.560
But really, you could feel just the tense atmosphere to the point.
00:43:56.180
A lot of us in the press, obviously, are going to be looking at Sean Combs, looking at his
00:44:01.540
But because the defense huddled so close around him, likely to kind of prevent us from seeing
00:44:06.820
what his demeanor looked like and for us to write it down, those types of things.
00:44:14.180
And obviously, when the judge got back on the...
00:44:16.180
Bro, that courtroom is packed with reporters, guys.
00:44:18.580
I'm telling y'all, like 100 plus reporters were there, man.
00:44:20.940
...bench, and he said that the jury came back with that.
00:44:24.200
They said that they reached a verdict on count two, three, four, and five, but they're still
00:44:27.560
kind of not been able to reach a verdict as to count one.
00:44:31.920
I think a lot of us were just like, oh, my God, it's happening.
00:44:36.940
They're going to come back tomorrow, continue deliberating.
00:44:39.580
But you could feel the weight of the world, especially on the defendant, but also the Combs
00:44:45.020
But I will say, Jesse, when they brought the jury in, because they brought them in twice,
00:44:48.260
one to kind of read them, I guess, that modified Allen charge about continuing to deliberate,
00:44:52.540
and then the second time to release them by the end of the day.
00:44:55.220
I will say, I did kind of note that they weren't looking in the defendant's direction.
00:44:58.360
I think a lot of them were making their way all the way to their seat, didn't know what
00:45:02.100
the next process would be, because, again, they're jurors.
00:45:05.780
They didn't know if they were going to be told to continue deliberating tonight, if they
00:45:10.260
Obviously, the judge gave them the option to come back tomorrow.
00:45:12.660
But even when they were exiting the courtroom, from what I could see, I couldn't see them
00:45:17.780
But if it was vice versa, I did see the defendant looking at the juror.
00:45:21.580
So, you know, maybe some people kind of did like a little peripheral eye glance look or
00:45:26.060
From what I could see, they didn't look in his direction.
00:45:28.420
So we'll see what tomorrow brings as far as what their possible decision might end up
00:45:35.180
This modified Allen charge that the judge gave to the jury, what exactly did he tell them?
00:45:46.320
It's different, and it's modified, because I think they were trying to stay consistent
00:45:54.240
What exactly did Judge Arun Subramanian tell them?
00:46:01.560
He said that each and every single one of you must decide the case for himself or for herself,
00:46:05.880
and that no jurors should pretty much, like, waver on their opinions in terms of if they
00:46:10.260
feel some type of way, that they should feel that type of way, and it's okay for them to
00:46:15.100
But in terms of just even what's going to be happening next is the jury will come back,
00:46:19.100
everyone, and they'll deliberate a little bit, and then they see, or excuse me, and
00:46:24.260
All right, man, I'm going to keep it all the way a million with you guys.
00:46:26.500
I don't think I've ever shared this, but let me go ahead and share this.
00:46:28.580
I wanted to share this yesterday, but I couldn't.
00:46:32.360
Here's the thing with the Diddy case, all right?
00:46:34.560
But, and this is, I think this is very important for all men and guys need to listen up.
00:46:44.260
As you guys know, the case centers around two women that claimed that Diddy forced them
00:46:49.880
to do freak-offs, okay, where the woman would engage, having sex with an escort, and they'd
00:46:57.700
fly these escorts all around, hence why it's a federal charge affecting interstate commerce,
00:47:01.560
So Cassie and a girl named Jane, who we think is, um, 50 says baby mama, excuse me, right?
00:47:09.520
So during the course of the trial, because I was there, as you guys know, I spent two
00:47:17.180
And I was there actually for some of the most important testimony.
00:47:19.160
I was there for all of Cassie's testimony, right?
00:47:23.680
And when you look at the text messages, which is what they were showing as evidence, on one
00:47:30.880
side, you got Cassie saying, yo, I didn't want to do this.
00:47:38.200
And then on the other side, you got the text messages that show that this was consensual.
00:47:45.120
Now, whether you think Diddy is guilty or not, what I think really matters and what guys need
00:47:51.080
to take away from this is simply this, we're getting into an era now where women can kind
00:48:04.000
And if you're like a rich, powerful guy and you do some fuck shit, right?
00:48:27.480
This case is going to set the precedent where it could get to a point where women can have
00:48:35.840
an ax to grind with you and come back years later and say, oh, you did X, Y, Z to me.
00:48:39.960
If they didn't get a desired result out of the relationship.
00:48:45.680
Because make no mistake about it, Cassie walked away from this shit with 30 million.
00:48:54.240
And then she got another 10 million from Intercontinental Hotel.
00:49:04.540
But what I am saying is that a lot of this shit was consensual.
00:49:18.160
Who Diddy is still paying her bills to this fucking day, by the way.
00:49:22.880
Sending messages like, I want to go ahead and do X, Y, Z.
00:49:26.280
So it's like, if the premise is this is consensual sex and what we're doing is consensual,
00:49:40.200
Like, if you don't want to do a freak off one time, does that constitute as grape?
00:49:43.340
See, we're starting to get into this gray area now.
00:49:47.080
Because by that definition, does your wife want to have sex with you every single time
00:50:02.900
Depends on how you frame it and how she feels or what she wants to say.
00:50:06.500
So what I do think is that this is literally, we're starting to get into very murky and
00:50:20.460
He's a perv that likes to watch this chick get smashed.
00:50:38.040
He didn't have a gun to their head saying, you can't leave.
00:50:44.160
They were, you know, limousine riding, jet fly.
00:50:49.720
And then years later, they come back and say, oh, no, I'm going to testify against this
00:50:53.360
Like, one of the witnesses, like, the one that they called Mia.
00:50:58.760
Like, you know, she's over here saying, oh, Diddy did this to me?
00:51:01.520
And then, like, after she left, she was still trying to get a job with him.
00:51:03.840
She was, you know, writing on Instagram, happy birthday.
00:51:08.840
So it's like, your testimony isn't lining up with your prior actions.
00:51:17.660
They beat them up on, like, bro, like, a lot of this stuff was consensual.
00:51:24.180
Well, of the hundreds of times, how many times was it consensual?
00:51:36.340
But what I am saying is that this is going to set a precedent that might not be good for men in general in the future.
00:51:46.640
We've talked about Me Too many times on this channel.
00:51:50.720
And if Diddy loses this case, it's only going to strengthen Me Too.
00:52:00.120
And that's, like, the ugly side that a lot of people aren't talking about.
00:52:03.460
Of what's going to come next from this, depending on the verdict.
00:52:06.140
On whether or not they need to bring in more specified instructions.
00:52:10.440
But from the defense's perspective, they were pretty adamant that they think it's too early for them to come back with any type of split verdict or anything like that.
00:52:18.740
Like I said, often, if there's one holdout, usually a trial in San Francisco where there's a holdout.
00:52:52.840
I know Nick is going to go on with D'Souza soon, I think.
00:53:00.160
Keep it on the air, regardless of what happens.
00:53:11.580
We're still going to cover the Candace debate and everything.
00:53:20.200
Chat from last night kept me up for the eight hour drive.
00:53:31.640
You got to see this Instagram post and read the top comment.
00:53:55.660
Gaz says, I know he has his wife and husband's dick up his ass, but he should learn to let
00:54:03.400
Almighty says, uh, Myron, I fuck what you brought us for everything you do, but setting up
00:54:06.600
a table in Chicago about drill is the wrong move.
00:54:09.500
Chicago's a different place than Miami and I'll be there no matter what your decision is.
00:54:13.180
You're better off debating these three or fours.
00:54:14.780
I come from the streets and I can tell you it's a problem with these young niggas.
00:54:18.880
We'll set up in like the Gold Coast or something.
00:54:23.800
As you guys know, man, OSS join up for four bucks right now.
00:54:35.340
One chest says, uh, Candace Owens on the first French lady, the phone call at 40 seconds.
00:54:43.860
If you can react to it, my handler name is the same as Gokul's.
00:54:47.920
Yo, Christian, can you send me the link on just send another rant with the link?
00:54:53.320
You don't mind if I put the, uh, pull the trigger for the whole year.
00:54:55.780
Love the community and everything you're doing, bro.
00:54:58.240
Moved to, uh, Sydney, Australia six months ago building an AI business.
00:55:04.060
Matthew Cox bought, I believe it was about the LTTE.
00:55:07.440
And those terrified is in the Canada going to us or something alongside that.
00:55:12.500
If time allows the guys experience that war for over 10 years.
00:55:25.180
It might, um, it might be that you got to be a sub member on Rumble.
00:55:29.700
Because Rumble and locals are still kind of different interfaces.
00:55:32.740
Hey, bro, did you decide camera look different now or need some work?
00:55:44.880
So you guys can tell me when they are on and they're debating.
00:55:47.780
So let's go ahead and go right into, um, Candace.
00:55:56.000
You don't want to stay at home when you pull them.
00:55:57.720
They just want flexible working hours and flexible working conditions like you have.
00:56:03.100
All right, we left off here about 10 minutes in.
00:56:19.560
You guys, uh, you know, add the fuel to the fire to keep me going, bro.
00:56:52.520
Just, and let's not remove this from the other part of the claim,
00:56:55.560
which is that it has made women infinitely less happy.
00:56:59.800
Okay, so yeah, we just crossed 286k, guys, by the way.
00:57:02.300
So we, guys, officially, we started this channel at 186,000 subscribers.
00:57:08.420
I started streaming on this channel doing this shit in January.
00:57:29.600
Guys, we're sitting at like 15 million views for the month.
00:57:32.420
This channel only has 286,000 subscribers, by the way.
00:57:34.900
We grew 100,000 on YouTube while being demonetized, while being shadow banned, while being told that we're bigots,
00:57:43.460
not getting invited on podcasts, getting banned from certain places, getting demonetized, all this shit.
00:58:00.900
Fucking beginning of this year, you know, we were like, man, this shit sucks.
00:58:08.520
You know, we're over here trying to figure out a way to make shit happen.
00:58:18.280
I'm doing the debrief, then I'm doing Fresher Fit, then I'm doing After Hours.
00:58:22.160
And, you know, the grind is fucking worth it, man.
00:58:28.480
We started the channel at 186,000 together in January of 2025.
00:58:35.560
So, July 1st now, we crossed 286 literally like yesterday.
00:58:44.740
So, Don DeMarco, to you guys that watch and support.
00:58:56.740
But you're saying that, according to you, women have been devalued.
00:59:02.100
According to the time in which people are getting married,
00:59:04.920
how difficult it is for people to find a partner that's willing to commit to them.
00:59:16.820
So, when we're talking about the value of women on a societal scale and how we view each other, right?
00:59:21.580
When you're devaluing us, you're objectifying us.
00:59:29.860
But rape rates have gone down by about half in the last 20 years.
00:59:37.760
If you're saying we're less valuable now, why wouldn't we be suffering at a higher rate?
00:59:42.800
So, is the argument that you're making, just so I understand, that because women are giving up sex for free, they're not being raped?
00:59:50.980
Every study shows rape is not correlated with just sexual gratification.
00:59:56.220
So, it is about objectifying and abusing women when you rape them, not about whether or not you want sex.
01:00:02.140
What I am saying is that women are less objectified, so therefore we are being raped less.
01:00:07.720
Okay, so you think that in today's society, because this is pretty wild for me, in the 1950s, you're saying women were more objectified than today in the land of OnlyFans, the Kardashian clan, and women that are essentially putting up their boobs and butts for free.
01:00:28.300
Yeah, women are more objectified now than ever before.
01:00:30.680
In the 50s, we used to protect women from objectifying themselves.
01:00:33.340
That's literally what religion, community, shame, all these things used to be in play to keep women from fucking themselves up.
01:00:42.080
On Instagram, you're saying we are now, we finally have achieved less objectification, where women can't even get onto an advertising, you can't even advertise a bag without them having to be naked in order for them to get a career as a model.
01:00:56.400
You're saying, oh great, we've achieved actually less objectification.
01:00:59.780
So I'm not trying to suggest that I think that the over-commodification of women's bodies is positive.
01:01:08.420
But what I am saying is that when you're going to the 1950s, that we shouldn't put this glazed look of, oh, it was so happy, we had single-income households and we got to stay home.
01:01:21.220
Like, we were seen as a house appliance far more than we were as people.
01:01:26.540
So notice how she says, oh, women were looked at as a house appliance, but men don't complain about being looked at as wallets when we're providers, right?
01:01:34.180
Like, isn't it interesting when, like, men have duties, it's like, yo, do your fucking job, be a man.
01:01:39.940
But when women have duties, they say, oh, I'm not a fucking appliance.
01:01:45.940
I've kind of noticed this, where if you put responsibilities on women and tell them, yo, you're supposed to do this, they'll say, oh, why are you objectifying me?
01:01:53.220
Or I'm not, like, a fucking sandwich maker or an appliance.
01:01:56.240
But if, you know, if they say, yo, be a man, be a protector, what?
01:02:04.800
But, like, for some odd reason, like, we don't shame women back for them objectifying us, but they try to shame us for us objectifying them.
01:02:20.740
No one can objectify you unless you objectify yourself first.
01:02:25.340
So, when women trust, like, thoughts, and the dudes objectify them in response, it's because they objectify themselves first.
01:02:32.860
If you don't respect yourself, no one's going to respect you.
01:02:36.020
They think that respect is given just for existing.
01:02:38.860
That's one of the biggest differences between men and women.
01:02:43.320
We innately understand that we must earn our respect.
01:02:46.800
Women, on the other hand, think, oh, respect is just given because I'm a lady.
01:02:53.820
But for women, they think it's just because I got a vagina, just give it to me.
01:02:57.000
And the other thing, too, is that when you put responsibility on them, they'll shirk it off and be like, oh, I'm not your appliance.
01:03:04.460
But I've never heard a man say, oh, I'm a fucking slave for working and taking care of my family.
01:03:10.920
We would all laugh at that nigga if he complained about being a breadwinner and taking care of his family.
01:03:14.120
But if a woman, right, is supposed to do chores or cook or clean, I'm a slave.
01:03:21.060
Female responsibilities are always looked at as slavery or bad.
01:03:25.260
Meanwhile, male responsibilities are looked at as you shut up and fucking do it.
01:03:28.980
You guys ever notice that fucking strange double standard?
01:03:38.680
And then women wonder why they can't get a guy.
01:03:40.940
And so when you have that kind of objectification where you are in a subservient position,
01:03:52.060
But I think that rape is a signifier of a contradiction to your statement.
01:03:59.380
It doesn't make sense, but I do want to rebut it on a couple of points.
01:04:02.240
So first, I just want to say, suggesting that...
01:04:04.580
Guys, when the NIC debate starts, let me know and we'll play it live.
01:04:07.840
Because I'm looking at Alex Jones right now and I don't see...
01:04:10.220
...to the census before 2026 midterms and only count Americans and not illegal...
01:04:17.040
...objectification has gone downward since the 1950s as well.
01:04:27.020
Second thing, you then brought up, okay, women were at home, but they were pill popping.
01:04:30.720
Well, you then have to acknowledge, we're actually popping more pills now, right?
01:04:34.760
So we have actually increased our amount of pill popping.
01:04:40.920
And on top of that, since I think 1999, by rate, we are increasing our opioid use compared to men.
01:04:47.980
So women are not popping pills less because we're going into the workforce.
01:04:51.380
Of course, that's actually not true at all either.
01:04:53.620
And we're also, like I said to you, consuming alcohol more and binge drinking more than we did in the 1950s,
01:04:58.760
which is why I was trying to get her to say, we need to look at actually a reasonable...
01:05:02.640
Give me any reasonable metric of how we can define happiness.
01:05:07.740
We're actually avoiding what my original point was, was about rape being the signifier.
01:05:19.540
Hey, and by the way, guys, we crossed the fucking 3,000 mark on...
01:05:40.660
Thanks to all you guys at Gift on Kick, man, and enjoy watching on kick.
01:05:44.180
It seems like we got a bunch of you guys that like watching the stream on kick, man, so...
01:05:58.240
I am fascinated by your claim that women have lost happiness
01:06:07.420
She Belongs to the Streets with another gift that's up.
01:06:12.120
Do you think that there is any tie to happiness and freedom and happiness and choice?
01:06:20.620
Because since 1950s, since the sexual revolution, women have gotten exponentially more freedom
01:06:29.740
And for me, as a mother and as a woman, having the freedom to choose what I do to make my own
01:06:37.000
destiny makes me infinitely more happy than, say, back before the sexual revolution when
01:06:43.220
I couldn't get a bank account, couldn't get a home loan, couldn't work outside the home,
01:06:48.040
couldn't travel around without a man, couldn't control my own reproduction.
01:06:52.120
So, I feel that happiness, personally, my belief, is tied to our ability to have freedom.
01:06:58.940
And I think that in the United States, protecting freedom and our individual freedoms is what's
01:07:07.340
Yeah, she just made an anecdote, like, okay, that's for you.
01:07:14.320
Like, it's crazy how she comes in, like, ah, freedom!
01:07:22.420
Now, when you went to college, did you go to college because it was simply something that
01:07:26.720
you wanted to do, or did you think that, I have to go to college because in order to get
01:07:32.420
I went to college for art because I was fascinated with art.
01:07:39.840
Just answering my question, did you go to college, was that the only reason I went to college,
01:07:43.360
or did you think that I might want to do something in art so I have to go to college, like,
01:07:47.180
I went to school because I wanted to expand my horizons.
01:07:51.760
Translation, be a fucking retard and waste time.
01:08:00.660
Let's let her say what she's going to say, and then I'll decode it for you guys.
01:08:04.480
I think that will be far more better, far better for the purposes of education.
01:08:21.760
I went to school because I wanted to expand my horizons.
01:08:30.300
Guys, women say stupid shit like this, like, expand my horizons, right?
01:08:41.100
Like, women will sit there and say stupid shit like this all the time.
01:08:55.760
I want to travel and learn and explore and show all...
01:09:02.400
Mike, understand, guys, that the way that women communicate isn't like us.
01:09:16.760
So, when they say the things that they say, there's always, like, an undertone to it.
01:09:22.740
And the reason why they speak this way is because if they actually said what they mean,
01:09:25.800
they would look like sluts or they would look poor.
01:09:29.060
Guys, for you guys to understand this, let's go into female nature a little bit, okay?
01:09:44.900
Women are the weaker and more vulnerable gender.
01:09:47.880
Since they're the weaker and more vulnerable gender, they need numbers to defend themselves
01:09:54.840
So, this is why women are social creatures because they need to be able to not just socialize
01:10:00.820
with other individuals, but also be able to quickly ascertain if someone's on some weird
01:10:05.720
Now, I don't know if you guys know this or if you've noticed this, but when you go out
01:10:09.760
with a girl or when women meet people, right, notice how they're able to pick up on men that
01:10:18.080
They can't even describe it to you, but when a guy's kind of off or not all the way there
01:10:22.200
or strange or peculiar, they immediately pick up on that.
01:10:25.020
And the reason for that is because women have a natural spidey sense where they can detect
01:10:29.360
irregular behavior, especially from men, because it's a defense mechanism so that they can
01:10:36.600
They can't put up two fucking fists and box the nigga and win.
01:10:40.120
Most women will get beat up by a fucking 13-year-old boy, just so you guys know, okay?
01:10:44.900
That's how physically inferior women are to men.
01:10:47.420
A 13-year-old boy could beat up like 90% of females.
01:10:50.500
So, therefore, they don't have the strength advantage, so they rely upon numbers.
01:10:54.580
Now, now that you guys understand that women are social creatures and they rely on other
01:10:57.880
people, you need to know that since their safety is intimately tied to their ability
01:11:02.360
to socialize within a group, you need to understand that the biggest fear that they have is being
01:11:13.200
Because if they're ostracized from the group, they're out in the wilderness, left to their
01:11:17.840
And if they're left to their own devices, that means they got to fight off the fucking dangers
01:11:21.940
out in the wilderness and shit, which they can't really do, okay?
01:11:27.260
So, the reason why, and this is all to bring it back full circle for you guys, the reason
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why women don't speak overtly and say what's on their mind is because they don't want to
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be ostracized by the group, so they say things in a way that is politically correct, or not
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Another thing, women don't want to be looked at as whores.
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Because if a woman is looked at as a whore, what ends up happening is she's not able to
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get a higher status male that could provide resources to her.
01:11:59.900
So, they're never going to say, right, I want to go to Miami to get fucked by five black
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She's going to say, we're going on a girls trip and we're going to have fun.
01:12:12.840
She's not going to say, oh, I sucked this guy's dick in the elevator because I'm a raging
01:12:19.720
She's going to say, yeah, I entertained other men or I cheated.
01:12:25.080
They always downplay or minimize the fuckery because if they were to tell you what it really
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is, rightfully so, we're going to look at them as sluts and be disgusted.
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And if we're disgusted with them, we're more than likely going to ostracize them from the
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And that is every woman's fucking chief fear, okay?
01:12:42.780
I don't give a fuck what any of these bitches try to tell you.
01:12:45.240
So, women want to be accepted by the masses because the masses is what ensures their survival.
01:12:51.980
So, to bring it back full circle all the way here, the reason why she's saying, oh, expand
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my horizons is because she doesn't want to say, I went to college to fuck a bunch of fucking
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frat boys and athletes and experiment fucking black dudes for the first time.
01:13:08.440
She doesn't want to say that for obvious reasons, right?
01:13:12.200
So, guys, women never communicate overtly because they can't afford to.
01:13:26.580
Because men have the ability to put up their fists, raise up a gun, raise up a fucking sword
01:13:39.720
When it comes to, like, revolutions where wars have to be fought, real shit, it's always
01:13:46.680
So, since women can't actually defend their beliefs through violence, they must implore
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this tactic where they have to speak surreptitiously or in a very vague manner to convey ideas so
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that they don't get ostracized by their counterparts.
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Give me one thing in the chat if that makes sense.
01:14:07.200
But this is why women never mean what they say and say what they mean.
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I think that's why most people go to university.
01:14:14.780
Yeah, that's why most people go to, bro, people go, university, college is an acceptable way,
01:14:20.480
it's a socially acceptable way to spend four years being a fucking degenerate.
01:14:25.460
For 99% of college students, it's four years of acceptable fucking off.
01:14:39.200
Hey, man, we still blend this red pill shit in here, too, man.
01:14:47.620
Yo, TPC, how does camera three look, by the way, bro?
01:14:51.940
I don't know why it keeps, I don't know if this is like focused or whatever.
01:14:56.680
I think it looks okay, but it like keeps blurring and shit like that.
01:15:01.700
But yeah, I don't think it's as focused as it should be.
01:15:04.360
So anyway, I'll talk to you on the side after the show.
01:15:07.660
And then this is camera four, by the way, so you can see.
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I know we didn't get to finish this one, but yeah.
01:15:12.980
Anyway, I know you're watching the show, so we'll figure it out.
01:15:14.860
I went, and I think a lot of people go because there's a pressure that if you don't go to
01:15:22.380
So taking away choices doesn't make people happier.
01:15:25.160
Taking away freedom doesn't make people happier.
01:15:27.180
I'm disagreeing with you on the idea that people are feeling more free by financial pressure.
01:15:32.220
I think financial pressure makes people feel remarkably less free.
01:15:34.780
So you want no bank accounts again, women not to have credit cards?
01:15:37.360
I'm not saying that women shouldn't have access to credit cards or banking accounts.
01:15:40.780
I love how she just like totally misrepresented her position.
01:15:45.980
Like, she's saying, hey, I don't know if women should be like, you know, having a lot
01:15:49.740
Oh, are you saying they shouldn't have credit cards?
01:15:54.220
So why don't you respond to the words that I'm saying?
01:15:58.280
If I don't have a bank account, that's a lot less financial pressure, I guess, right?
01:16:01.360
That financial pressure in terms of most people that go to college, and I'm counting myself
01:16:07.100
among them, it's because typically in order to get the job that you're being sold is going
01:16:11.880
to make you infinitely happier and infinitely more free, it just requires a college degree.
01:16:16.060
And most of these people, to be clear, have to put themselves, the majority of people
01:16:21.020
And I don't think anybody would describe debt as a form of freedom, right?
01:16:27.160
So we're here to talk about happiness and how the sexual revolution, and we're not talking
01:16:32.340
I think it's important because we're talking about freedom.
01:16:35.160
You just said that the reason why I feel happy is because I have more freedom.
01:16:38.840
And I am saying that financial restraints and debt doesn't make people feel more free.
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Maybe we should have a free college here in the U.S.
01:17:01.760
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A lot of people tell me, hey, Myron, like, you shouldn't even be streaming on YouTube anymore.
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That's how we fight back against the censorship on this bitch-ass platform.
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So I feel like a lot of your arguments today are very rooted in a sort of old school perspective.
01:19:06.140
Yeah, that's what traditionalism is, my friend.
01:19:12.560
I feel as though most people would identify that claim as pretty extreme and pretty, like,
01:19:20.120
Well, no, that women would get more happiness inherently from raising kids than having a job
01:19:25.900
or deciding what they want to do with their lives.
01:19:30.640
Why would having children, which is just a natural biological conclusion, be something?
01:19:37.880
How having a family, the nuclear family, is now considered extreme?
01:19:44.960
Let me take this time to test out how the phone shit works.
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I'm going to try this Bluetooth thing real quick.
01:19:56.280
I might as well, because I got you on the phone.
01:20:16.240
Guys, so we're going to start doing the phone calls probably this week on a debrief.
01:20:23.820
So this is how it's going to be, guys, when we do the call-in portions of the show.
01:20:35.180
They're saying that the audio is, I had to turn up the USB volume a little bit, but they're
01:20:40.960
Because, uh, or what do you guys think about the microphone audio?
01:20:43.660
And I told them earlier how you said that, uh, if they said the mic audio was bad, then
01:20:51.040
I was actually there watching when you said that shit.
01:20:58.620
Oh, by the way, just so you guys know, we're posting a lot of, um, Bill, do you want to
01:21:04.020
Yeah, we're going to start posting a lot of Castle Club vlogs and a lot of behind the
01:21:35.300
Um, Frank, you want to say what's up to the people?
01:21:44.840
He is, um, he's the O slash, um, mascot pretty much.
01:21:54.780
You want to drool on my new hoodie I just got, man?
01:22:03.180
That noise is his tail is wagging and hitting the fucking shit all over the place.
01:22:12.380
You got this little fucking bow tie right here?
01:23:25.780
So I think when we think about things that are inherent, I think biology is a good thing
01:23:30.040
So biologically speaking, men and women come together.
01:23:36.060
That's the reason that I'm sitting here is because biology is inherent.
01:23:39.700
So I was saying it's just natural order that we're speaking about, right?
01:23:57.420
I got on my bingo card that this guy's a fucking an atheist.
01:24:13.820
He's not like your fucking dumbass pit bull, all retarded and shit.
01:24:26.480
Man, I'm going to have to walk him on Instagram for you dumbass niggas in here.
01:24:35.800
Niggas, pure border collie, high IQ, does tricks.
01:24:50.080
Some of you dumbass niggas got a dumbass pit bull.
01:24:56.400
Or some other stupid fucking dog that can't do no tricks.
01:25:10.320
Some of you guys don't even know what an O slash is.
01:25:11.820
This nigga was here with me when we made it, goddammit.
01:25:33.200
You got a stupid ass pit bull that bites everybody on the block, dumbass.
01:25:37.300
Dog almost got put down three times because you're stupid.
01:25:45.300
I think because it speaks to natural order and...
01:26:02.580
Especially when I know that your name is fucking Jaquarius or some shit.
01:26:08.060
Every piece of life, I think, is enriched by children.
01:26:11.000
You don't think it's natural for women to get to decide what they want to do with their lives?
01:26:14.040
I do not think that saying women can decide whether or not they want to go to work or have children is problematic.
01:26:21.720
What I'm saying to you is that women will get the most fulfillment from having a family.
01:26:28.020
It's natural, but also children are wonderful and beautiful and spiritually divine creatures.
01:26:40.140
Okay, what if there's a little girl born and it's her dream her entire life to be an author or to be, you know, on TV or any of these things?
01:26:52.520
So how is it better for that, like, and I understand this is hypothetical, but that hypothetical little girl to have children than to pursue these things that would make her happy as she gets older?
01:27:01.780
I just think that if she publishes the book and she has a child, she would agree with me that the child was more fulfilling and made her happy.
01:27:10.800
Hey, would you give up your career for your kids?
01:27:14.860
Like, the career matters until it don't anymore.
01:27:16.880
And that's another thing that these fucking liberals don't understand.
01:27:33.380
That's what I'm happier than the book did is what I'm saying.
01:27:35.680
And I say this as a published author of the New York Times, I would choose my children over my bestselling book.
01:27:47.580
And she's even saying, no, my kids come before my career or whatever.
01:27:52.900
Because if you guys notice, she only streams for like maybe an hour a day, not even like 45 minutes to 50 minutes a day.
01:27:59.380
So, and she does that to optimize time with her kids.
01:28:02.180
And I've seen how she does things behind the scenes.
01:28:07.980
So that all she's got to do is come in, sit down, talk, get off the mic, and then be done.
01:28:16.340
So, even someone here that's wildly successful selling this dumbass, bro, I'm where a lot of women want to be.
01:28:22.980
And I'm here to tell you that having kids is more important.
01:28:26.740
And I was that little girl who had a dream that like, oh, it would be really great if I could share my thoughts and ideas in a book.
01:28:34.600
But it is utter insanity for me to reflect on that and say that I would have rather published books.
01:28:41.300
And you guys know, there's probably like, on one hand, the amount of women that I respect, and Candace is absolutely one of them.
01:28:47.520
You know, I had the pleasure of meeting her last year.
01:28:49.380
I think she's going to be back here at the end of the year.
01:28:50.840
So, you know, here's the thing, too, with Candace that I really like, right?
01:29:01.060
Unfortunately, since so many women are stupid, they're not going to take my message in.
01:29:08.360
All you ladies that watch me, you guys are higher IQ.
01:29:10.320
Because you guys clearly are able to discern the fact that this is, you know, important information and put your feelings to the side, which is very difficult for a lot of women to do, right?
01:29:22.160
So, I'm very aware of the fact that, like, my message is simply not going to resonate with a lot of women because it's very in-your-face, right?
01:29:30.140
This type of messaging, this type of content is better suited for men.
01:29:34.320
So, what Candace is able to do is Candace is able to get in front of an audience of women because she can speak their language, she looks like them, etc.
01:29:41.360
So, it's really good to have, you know, a few people like this where they can reach out to the demographic that won't listen to us and still get these ideas out.
01:29:50.360
So, I do think that it's needed to a degree because there's just people that I can't get to.
01:29:59.640
So, if we don't want to red pill the masses, you are going to need a couple of female allies because they're just going to simply be able to get into rooms that make shit happen that you won't be able to.
01:30:09.200
Because a considerable amount of our audience is female and she's putting this message out to them, which is very important.
01:30:25.160
There's very few female YouTubers or podcasters that I respect and she's one of them.
01:30:37.740
Well, if it's an either or, if you're saying it's an either or, I'm just saying that if these two things have happened in your life, the thing that will bring you more spiritual fulfillment will be children.
01:30:46.680
And so women who are neglecting that, who are neglecting the pathway to, you know, strive toward family because they think their career is going to hug them at night or they think that when they're on their deathbed, their career.
01:31:08.380
Now is going to come up next to them and say, you were so great to me.
01:31:11.940
I think that they have stepped into a delusion and I'm hopeful that they wake up from it before it's too late.
01:31:41.220
If this were the case and that women were just inherently unhappy or unfulfilled working and would just prefer to be at home.
01:31:50.460
Because it's we've made that due to prior feminist waves.
01:31:59.300
It's very difficult for women to go back and be house mothers and be house makers.
01:32:06.680
Nearly impossible because now, which I believe.
01:32:11.600
FYI, guys, I'm watching this debate for the first time just like you guys.
01:32:17.160
I believe that the reason that the government wanted women to enter the workforce is because it gave them an opportunity to tax.
01:33:00.340
Back to what I was saying is that there's a lot of financial pressure that is being exerted on young women to enter the workforce, and they do so blindly.
01:33:16.420
That somehow entering the workforce is going to make you more fulfilled.
01:33:19.680
Yeah, I'm getting off after that dick debate, man.
01:33:21.960
Like getting yourself into six figures of debt going to college to then take on a career and having to pay student loans while you make 35K is going to make you happier.
01:33:38.340
At the same time, would you not agree that men and that women can both have a career and have children?
01:33:46.740
And I want to be very clear because I am actively doing it right now.
01:33:51.960
Someone that you would call an exception because I get to work from home.
01:33:56.700
I don't have to go into the office from nine to five.
01:33:59.280
I get to then therefore spend the entire morning with my children.
01:34:02.360
So you are an exception and the 47% of women that make up our labor force are also an exception?
01:34:09.240
So I'm trying to make it more realistic because I think it's really bad form when people who are able to stay at home, right, and are able to start working at 1 o'clock p.m.
01:34:21.720
as I do after being around their children, the children are running around all day, will then preach to you that every woman can have this.
01:34:28.900
The reality is that the overwhelming majority of people are stuck behind a desk all day and they're not happy.
01:34:37.280
I've talked to you guys before about women working.
01:34:41.360
However, she should be in a position where what she does for work is elective, right?
01:34:48.440
I think I've said this only like maybe once or twice.
01:34:52.240
I think it's every man's duty where your girl can go to her boss and say suck a dick if she even has one.
01:35:00.500
Like she can literally tell her job to fuck off at any time.
01:35:04.400
It's your duty to give her that security where she can say I don't want to work or tell her boss fuck off or whatever, right?
01:35:17.580
And to be honest with you, optimally, it should be from home where she's still with the kids, right?
01:35:23.440
So, you know, obviously I don't live in a fucking box.
01:35:29.160
Very difficult to make it without a double income.
01:35:31.560
However, I do think as a man, it is your duty to work really hard so you make enough money where you could take care of both y'all and your wife or your serious partner has the ability and capability to go to her boss.
01:35:48.440
So, I think that should be every man's, like you should strive towards that.
01:35:53.780
If your girl's working right now or your wife is working right now, I get it.
01:36:01.400
But I think it should be every man's, you should work towards it, where your significant other can quit her job whenever she wants.
01:36:31.220
But if it's the job that is making them unhappy, then maybe they should have chosen a different career path and not the structure of the career itself.
01:36:37.340
But my issue with this is that not only is it claiming that women can't both be mothers and have-
01:36:42.160
But obviously, this has got to be for a serious girlfriend, bro.
01:36:45.980
Like, that treatment is reserved for only the best.
01:36:48.600
...have jobs, which we know to be true because millions of women do that.
01:36:54.520
But it also is qualifying what every single woman in this country wants without any clear evidence.
01:37:01.220
I mean, there's 169 million women in this country.
01:37:05.160
How can you say that you know exactly what every woman secretly wants?
01:37:09.980
I didn't- that wasn't my claim that I secretly know what every single woman wants.
01:37:13.320
I'm saying that if you measure up at the end of your life what brought you more fulfillment, your career or a child, children, raising children in your family, we will discover that.
01:37:27.040
And the number one regret that people have was that they gave too much to their careers.
01:37:32.280
I mean, of course, human relation is going to be valued over money and profit.
01:37:45.720
And my question is, what does that even have to-
01:37:48.580
Should every woman quit working and just have a child?
01:37:51.060
Well, I'm just trying to warn you that if you decide to suspend that pursuit of family because you think that you have to first climb the ladder,
01:37:59.500
a lot of women make that mistake and they don't end up finding a partner.
01:38:05.960
You don't get to say what people should and shouldn't do.
01:38:07.960
I don't think my claim is this is what people should or should not do.
01:38:11.640
I'm just simply stating that my claim is that you will be more fulfilled if you focus on trying to-
01:38:17.400
You don't get to decide what other people are fulfilled by.
01:38:19.420
I am making my claim here that women are infinitely more fulfilled in the household and raising children than they are taking that nine to five job.
01:38:29.500
In fact, you are evidence against your own claim.
01:38:34.780
Did she not just say, I'm a NY Times bestseller, successful podcaster, but I would not trade my kids for that?
01:38:57.220
That is an illusion and that is an illusion that is stressing women out.
01:38:59.780
And I think it is the reason why so many women are turning to popping pills, why there's been such a significant, more than a thousand percent increase since 1999.
01:39:09.240
Her exact claim can be verified, but in general, women use antidepressants at twice the rate of men.
01:39:16.680
Why is it that women use antidepressants at twice the rate of men despite the fact that women live life on fucking easy mode?
01:39:24.200
And guys, let me make this explicitly clear because I talked about this shit yesterday, but I'm going to say it anyway.
01:39:36.340
Guys want to fucking give them anything that they want for free.
01:39:40.000
They're able to go ahead and get the benefits of affirmative action.
01:39:52.880
You can go ahead and be successful or you can find a guy that has money.
01:39:55.940
If you know what you're doing, you can easily get either or.
01:40:04.700
The internet, the ease of communication has made life significantly easier and created far more opportunities for women while also limiting opportunities for men.
01:40:14.540
Because, like I told you guys before, the battle of the, like, when it comes to dating and relationships, et cetera, it's a battle.
01:40:23.640
If women have it easy, that means men are going to have to have it hard.
01:40:27.380
If men have it hard, sorry, if men have it easy, women are going to have to have it hard.
01:40:32.680
Like, there's no way that both parties are going to have it easy.
01:40:40.720
In every single relationship, there's always someone who cares more than the other.
01:40:43.680
Now, I tell you guys that the person who needs to care more is the woman.
01:40:51.580
Because if the man cares more, by definition, that assumes that she has more value than you because you're putting more effort into the relationship.
01:41:02.820
But as the relationship continues forward, it needs to shift and she needs to start investing and caring more in the relationship than you do.
01:41:13.940
And the reason for that is because women are emotional creatures.
01:41:16.900
So since they're emotional, they need to always feel that emotional connection to you.
01:41:21.360
And the only way women are going to get that emotional connection to you is if they care more than you do.
01:41:29.620
But if you're chasing her validation, that assumes that she has higher value than you.
01:41:35.100
And when women have higher value than you, guess what happens?
01:41:39.160
When women treat you like shit, they start to slowly lose attraction.
01:41:41.820
Once they slowly start to lose attraction, they fucking leave you.
01:41:50.540
I wish we could be nice guys and treat them like princesses.
01:41:56.440
But unfortunately, women don't respond favorably to men that pedestalize them.
01:42:01.940
They respond favorably to men that objectify them.
01:42:11.820
Since they're the ones that need the emotional stimuli,
01:42:13.760
the person that's adoring always has to have...
01:42:16.640
gets more emotional stimuli than the person that's being adored.
01:42:23.060
When it comes to relationship between the two parties,
01:42:25.660
one has to be the adorer and then one has to be the adored.
01:42:29.500
Mainstream media and the blue pill, the matrix, the retards will tell you,
01:42:37.940
That's one of the biggest lies that we tell guys.
01:42:40.100
Chase women, put them on a pedestal, give them flowers, all this chivalry bullshit.
01:42:45.100
That used to work before when women appreciated it and weren't whores.
01:42:52.300
She has to adore you for the relationship to work.
01:42:55.580
Because since women are the ones that are always being adored,
01:42:58.140
for them to respect the relationship, they have to be the adorer.
01:43:06.500
Some of you niggas right now are with a girl that doesn't fucking respect you.
01:43:08.840
So you got to get this through your fucking brain.
01:43:10.340
Never rob a woman of the privilege of adoring you.
01:43:19.020
Because if you rob her of that privilege, she's going to lose interest.
01:43:23.100
She must care more about the relationship than you care about it.
01:43:30.680
If you care about it more, it's a matter of time until she's gone.
01:43:34.640
Because women are always used to being pursued and being the adored.
01:43:38.520
But when you flip the script and she's adoring you, she ain't going nowhere.
01:43:56.280
I think that women can do everything that a man can do.
01:43:58.540
And men have done this historically throughout time and time.
01:44:01.160
I think women is our topic, debate topic today.
01:44:11.560
It's because actually what's quite ironic about the feminist movement is that...
01:44:16.340
I think women have been taught that being a woman is not enough and that you have to also aspire to be a man.
01:44:23.840
What feminists went out and did and said is that in order for women to have value, women need to be like men.
01:44:28.160
And I'm saying that actually women and men are biologically different.
01:44:36.340
And I think evidence of the feminist movement, by the way, shows us that.
01:44:39.600
Because even when women enter into the college education space, the pathways of career that we choose are different from men because we're biologically different.
01:44:49.700
So let's say that this is true, that women truly are more fulfilled at home.
01:44:52.700
Now, the average cost of raising a child a year is around $21,000 or more.
01:44:58.160
So my issue is, are you saying that women should just suddenly stop working and now the onus is entirely on men?
01:45:05.600
Like, the society that you're pitching is not sustainable economically.
01:45:15.340
Our next cause, Naima, you've been voted out by the majority.
01:45:34.120
So Demetrius said that, look at this shit, bro.
01:45:43.160
She's over 40, had a child from a previous relationship, not with Jeff, and still married a billionaire.
01:45:48.600
Ladies, stop letting these podcasts convince you you're expired.
01:46:00.760
This right here, guys, is why so many women are fucking cooked, bro.
01:46:10.780
Bro, I'm telling you, bro, there's no saving these bitches, man.
01:46:17.580
She pulls out one bitch that married Jeff Bezos, pulls out one lucky bitch and says, look, see, it's possible for the rest of us.
01:46:31.220
See, and there's another thing about females, man, right, that goes to show, like, their ridiculousness.
01:46:43.540
So women look at it like, if it's possible, it could happen to me.
01:47:23.700
Utmost says, yo, Maya, these niggas simp so hard on you, bro.
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They're literally paid to join OSS just to be a contrarian talk.
01:47:37.460
Says, Candace is trying to be white because she talks proper and is conservative.
01:47:49.480
Sergeant says, Meyer, can you watch Candace Owens' video explaining the phone call with Trump?
01:48:00.720
You got to be on OSS if you want me to read dollar chats.
01:48:07.160
Uzmaki, why do the Vagabords on YouTube get 4K, put them on 360?
01:48:12.780
Because OSS doesn't allow me to stream in 4K yet.
01:48:30.880
Dirty Harry says, if I don't got 7 kids, I'm not successful.
01:48:38.260
So your claim is that women will be happier at home.
01:48:46.220
I think you're conflating, though, happiness with importance.
01:48:48.700
Because I get what you're saying, where a woman can write a book and have kids.
01:49:05.480
Bro, we got like 6,000 of you guys in here right now.
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Not one of these niggas that fucking bots their streamer, their views.
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Everybody else out here be fucking, oh, I got 30K watching live.
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But, bro, guys, like the video, subscribe to the channel if you haven't already.
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Join the OSS, especially our YouTube niggas that are watching for free.
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But the kids are always going to make her happier.
01:49:36.140
But I think it just means that kids are always going to be more important, not necessarily
01:49:40.520
But also, piggybacking on Naima, we don't live in an economy where people typically can have
01:49:51.180
And so I think, and you keep bringing up the 1950s, which-
01:49:56.000
I just don't know if that's the period of time that you want to go back to.
01:49:59.520
No, it's just, I'm just going back to the first wave of feminism.
01:50:04.420
So I'm curious as to what decade you'd be comfortable living in, especially as a black woman.
01:50:10.800
So we're going to park aside the race politics because I want to focus on-
01:50:15.960
Then as a woman, what period of time do you want to go back to?
01:50:18.440
Just as a woman, I think that it was probably a better environment for women when we understood
01:50:26.200
that raising our children was fulfilling when we were at home.
01:50:33.940
And I'm here advocating for you to be able to live the life that you want and for other
01:50:50.180
So I have both children and a career, as somebody pointed out.
01:50:54.200
And so the fact that I'm saying that you will be infinitely more fulfilled at the end
01:50:59.660
of the day by raising your children than you will be if you come home and you say, wow,
01:51:04.340
I really crushed it, dying somebody's hair today.
01:51:07.440
What is it exactly that makes you angry about hearing that?
01:51:11.080
I'm actually trying to get to the implicit revolution.
01:51:19.280
And still telling her like, bro, kids are better.
01:51:21.580
Meanwhile, this bitch is over here blow drying Asian horse hair thinking like, oh, I want
01:51:43.760
And I've talked about this in detail, Rolo Tomasi.
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The reason why women fight so hard for feminism, okay?
01:52:22.000
It's not that they're fighting to be independent.
01:52:26.340
Let me make that explicitly fucking clear for you guys.
01:52:30.460
These feminists, girls like here with this fucking short hair and the other bimbos that come in and talk shit.
01:52:39.980
They're fighting to be independent of lower status men.
01:52:45.840
And that is the key fucking distinction that you guys need to understand.
01:52:53.780
Women would rather be by themselves and work a fucking terrible job than be with a guy that's their equal or a loser.
01:53:08.060
It's so that they can go ahead and sustain themselves for as long as they can until they find their dream guy.
01:53:18.320
That's the real reason why women fight for this freedom that they want.
01:53:21.500
It's not freedom from men of higher status than they find attractive.
01:53:39.200
Women view most men as pesky fucking mosquitoes.
01:53:48.200
I want you niggas to get that through your head.
01:53:53.440
Because once you understand this, everything makes sense.
01:53:55.320
Women view roughly 80 to 90% of men as pesky fucking mosquitoes.
01:54:04.400
And what I mean by this is, they don't think you're worth talking to.
01:54:09.740
They definitely don't think you're worth fucking.
01:54:17.620
And here's another dirty little secret for you guys.
01:54:20.960
A majority of women feel as though they are better than a majority of men.
01:54:29.340
Not only do they see themselves as better than a majority of men.
01:54:40.380
Now, they'll never fucking say this for obvious reasons.
01:54:51.680
Because like we said before, women don't say what's really on their mind.
01:54:54.840
They don't mean what they say or say what they mean.
01:55:01.000
You go up to a girl and you're trying to build attraction.
01:55:06.280
Why do you think you have to work so hard to get a number?
01:55:08.360
Or why do you think you have to fucking memorize all these can openers
01:55:11.420
to figure out how to build attraction with women?
01:55:25.340
Why do men have to learn all these fucking techniques
01:55:33.500
Because women don't give a fuck about a majority of men.
01:55:42.380
they view most of you niggas as annoying, pesky fucking mosquitoes.
01:56:21.840
Why do you guys think so many fucking women are insufferable
02:53:55.180
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women are often relegated to the role of doing grocery shopping
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etc because for for millennia now uh or from millennia up until now uh women were
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have economic and political freedom so let's get into the reasons because you brought up something that
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men are the people that are at the top of these companies these these fortune 500 companies and
02:55:47.740
political power you're absolutely right why is that it's it's it's primarily because we the women
02:55:52.700
haven't broken the ceiling quite yet in terms of uh
02:55:55.400
meeting breaking the ceiling in terms of uh parity with with these sort of powers but what we've seen
02:56:00.160
with the explosion of feminism is that women have actually begun to enter uh uh these companies
02:56:06.080
have uh you know risen into both political and economic positions of power
02:56:10.380
but that continues to grow year by year which shows that these social pressures are actually
02:56:15.460
breaking apart as soon as feminism comes into play so what i would say is what that shows you is that
02:56:21.020
women and men have different interests and i think this gets into what i was saying that
02:56:24.420
just because you see a disparity does not mean that it's not just a disparity in what our interests
02:56:28.400
are that's what's being represented i don't know why there has been this idea that women should
02:56:33.100
want to aspire to work 80 hours a week in order to be on par with men do you think that interests are
02:56:39.660
innate or do you think that interests are innate so why is it then that for example in the 1980s only
02:56:45.140
a quarter of college graduates were women were now majority of college graduates are women that shows
02:56:49.760
that because of the way that social pressures have actually changed women's interests are actually
02:56:53.780
now changing to a majority yeah they want to be whores bro that that's why if we're going to be
02:56:58.040
honest like a lot of women go to go off to college so they could be sluts let's just deal with the
02:57:01.960
elephant in the room bro come on man a lot of these women just want to be 304s
02:57:07.000
i think or at least half of uh law school graduates are now women it used to be the case in
02:57:14.420
for example a few hundred years ago that a lot of uh primary philosophers like emmanuel
02:57:18.780
hagel didn't even believe women could uh be reasonable now here you are today doing a debate with
02:57:24.220
me where we're using logic and reason to get to the absolutely and nobody here would dismiss the
02:57:28.740
claim that you can't be rational or logical or be uh for example a great lawyer because you're a
02:57:34.160
right so i i totally agree with you that women but i think they have actually entered into the
02:57:39.720
workforce i mean entered into college under this external pressure of feeling that if you don't go
02:57:43.780
to college you're going to be a failure so you admit that pressures are a part of the way interests
02:57:47.840
work yes but we're disagreeing on where the pressure is coming from like i think that now the pressure
02:57:51.740
is that if a woman doesn't enter the force it's there's there's no longer this idea that okay we're
02:57:55.780
going to come together as a family whereas there was this reality that there was this understanding
02:58:00.000
that you would have a partner people were getting married when they were 18 19 years old all right
02:58:24.920
now for those of you that don't know denes de souza
02:58:29.420
this is him right here the annals of time american right-wing political commentator and conspiracy
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from the whispered conspiracies of ancient courts
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when the flames of heresy consumed the thinkers of old
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and empires crumbled beneath the truth they couldn't silence
02:59:07.540
it was there the info war marched alongside the armies of men
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for the hearts and minds and souls of those caught in its wake
02:59:38.220
for the battlefield of the info war is everywhere
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truth is rising in every moment of human struggle
03:00:00.000
the essence of leadership is showing people how it's done
03:00:09.640
and being a leader means you go against the tide
03:00:26.660
right after you enjoy some fine chicken waffles
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frenzy 25 years later the reason we got iran is
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want to support the secret police he pulled the
03:21:10.660
saw as the bad guy and we got the worst guy okay so
03:21:13.920
then we had a regime respond to that but i don't
03:21:17.980
debate but we're kind of doing a history lesson
03:21:19.900
debating history go as long as you guys want we
03:21:24.060
the current stuff the final uh trump saying they
03:21:26.440
may have a piece yo most of that was elected by
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the 16th magi so they voted him in so what is he
03:21:32.100
talking about also he said that we only have that
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deal with the russians because they're rational
03:21:37.040
well i would argue the iranians are rational too because
03:21:39.500
they could have attacked the u.s base but they notified
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restrained responses every time israel escalated
03:21:49.040
talking about you feel monday uh the israel lobby all
03:21:52.640
of that during the 60s and 70s we believe the soviets
03:21:55.880
are more powerful than us they had more nukes than us
03:21:57.940
and we thought that they were going to strike us first they
03:22:00.440
thought they could survive it and the rhetoric about the
03:22:03.440
soviets was the same they have this global ambition domino
03:22:06.280
theory uh they want a global revolution it was exact same
03:22:09.740
stuff that they say about iran and yet we never invaded
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the soviet union we didn't need regime change in the soviet union and to go in
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and decapitate the regime with airstrikes it just isn't true we
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negotiate it uh so i would say that's in the first place
03:22:21.440
but we don't need to relitigate the history of the cold war
03:22:23.740
and the second place of mosaddak it's really neither here nor there
03:22:26.740
the exact particularities here the point is this
03:22:29.320
the united states and israel pursue regime change across the entire region
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that's the point i'm trying to make and i didn't get to finish um
03:22:35.660
in my opening statement we overthrew iran's government once and you admit it's
03:22:39.620
a cia coup in 53 in 1979 the people are furious because of the secret police
03:22:44.880
because the white revolution because of the reforms
03:22:46.960
that were made under the shah they overthrow uh the shah's government the
03:22:51.260
western back government because they saw it as a puppet
03:22:53.420
and the islamic revolution enjoyed broad support in iranian society
03:22:57.240
what took place ever since then is regime change one regime change operation
03:23:01.980
after another afghanistan iraq libya egypt syria you name it whether it's the
03:23:08.000
arab spring and it's these soft power color revolution coups or the ground
03:23:11.840
wars or it's civil wars that's the business we do and we do it
03:23:16.320
no matter who it is we do it against secular dictators we do it against people
03:23:22.300
qaddafi gave up his nuclear weapons in 2003 we backed airstrikes against him
03:23:26.280
anyway in 2011 we backed saddam at one point we oversaw the dismantlement of his
03:23:31.420
nuclear program we went to war against him in 2003 we said we weren't going to
03:23:35.200
war against assad in syria we did he's now overthrown and now you have isis in
03:23:39.420
power this is the history of the middle east and this gets to the reason of why
03:23:43.000
iran wants a nuclear weapon it's not because they want to kill everybody
03:23:46.120
it's not because they're fanatical and we can't negotiate and they're trying to
03:23:51.460
it's because they want to deter the same fate regime change would happen to all of
03:23:56.400
their neighbors that makes them rational oh yeah let me stop you i said i
03:23:59.820
you guys are both too polite every two or three minutes i'm gonna make you pause
03:24:03.300
that goes back to what dinesh was just saying earlier he's like when north
03:24:06.940
korea has nukes we say sir which i get that and i don't want them having nukes
03:24:10.780
they do implicit missiles hit us but that then begs the question iran
03:24:14.240
if we can hedge and you know maybe have some hidden
03:24:16.640
then that speaks to why they would want to i mean this says there's a lot to say
03:24:20.200
here but go ahead yeah one of the mullahs right in the
03:24:24.440
middle of all this one of the key mullahs made a very key admission he said
03:24:28.800
this is not about iran this is about islam right there you get the heart of
03:24:36.440
the matter these mullahs and yes there was a broad-based iranian revolution but
03:24:40.240
the mullahs in that power struggle took power and they have ruled dictatorially
03:24:44.880
over iran now since 1979 they've made the iranian revolution semi-permanent but the
03:24:50.680
key to understanding that revolution going all the way back from when they
03:24:54.100
seized the american hostages to the strike on beirut 1982 to the fact that
03:25:00.500
iran has been sponsoring terrorism not just in the region
03:25:04.140
they have tentacles in venezuela they have tentacles in south america
03:25:08.400
they have cells in the united states they are making an alliance with russia and
03:25:13.040
china to create a kind of axis of power so to the degree nick that you're saying
03:25:17.260
that this is you know a global chessboard i agree uh and i think that in a way puts
03:25:23.240
an interesting question for us which is that isn't it a fact that there is a
03:25:27.800
jihadi or radical strain of islam uh this ultimately is what is driving a lot of
03:25:35.140
these radical muslims right they are hezbollah uh hamas it doesn't matter whether
03:25:40.740
they're shia or sunni hamas is sunni why is iran funding hamas because they
03:25:46.300
don't care about those distinctions at the end of the day at the end of the day
03:25:50.340
they care about whether you're an infidel yes or no this radical islam is a
03:25:55.320
global ideology look you can say the mullahs keep saying it i don't believe it
03:25:59.960
but you should believe it when the russians said that they wanted a global
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triumph of communism they meant it we took it seriously and by the way that we
03:26:09.440
didn't end the soviet union through some sort of a treaty we ended the soviet
03:26:13.100
union by bankrupting them reagan ultimately defeated them in the cold
03:26:17.320
war it was not a treaty it was they were out of gas they couldn't compete in an
03:26:22.300
arms race we were building mx missiles and putting multiple warheads on them we
03:26:27.160
were building a missile shield we were supporting guerrilla revolutions around the
03:26:31.340
world that's ultimately afghanistan became by their own admission a bleeding
03:26:35.620
wound so this is why the soviets gave in they didn't give in
03:26:39.100
no country ever gives in because of a treaty the idea that communism abolished
03:26:43.860
itself eastern europe was freed because we put a piece of paper in front of them
03:26:48.120
oh okay let's get rid of all this stuff we were once a global empire will now
03:26:52.680
become a second-rate superpower that's not how it happened at all and that's a
03:26:57.420
misunderstanding of iran islam is a conquering force the muslims came out of
03:27:02.720
the arabian desert how do you think they conquered the holy land they took
03:27:06.540
jerusalem they took syria they took jordan they conquered iran by force that's how
03:27:15.180
and by the way you're both very smart men i've studied the history you're both
03:27:18.780
you know accurate in the basic facts very interesting a lot i'm not saying the
03:27:22.620
general public's dumb but even really smart political people really most of
03:27:26.040
can't find iran on a map so so i don't want to throw this in i figured very
03:27:30.640
smart dinesh you know trying to throw the debate away here but very smart to get
03:27:34.360
into america versus iran up front i was imagining and i'm not trying to steer this
03:27:39.920
though i want to spend some time on it the whole issue of israel and the israel
03:27:43.400
lobby and where that sits because i know that's nick's bailiwick and you know so
03:27:48.180
that's just something i'm throwing out there as well because that's why a lot of
03:27:51.300
americans have seen i'm not saying i love the islamicists or any of this but
03:27:55.160
we've seen regime change now the former head of al-qaeda in charge of syria we
03:27:58.960
we see uh you know hamas being you know israel helped set it up you know as a
03:28:03.660
counterbalance then we've got you know iran you know all of this and so i think a
03:28:08.100
lot of americans just don't believe the intelligence establishment even though i
03:28:11.520
wouldn't cry at night if the mullahs fell so just i mean what about the
03:28:15.140
apac israel issue in all of this dinesh for like a minute can i respond actually to what
03:28:20.920
he said um i'm sorry i apologize no you're fine i just want to have equal
03:28:25.340
time but i mean with regard to this there is just like this and you know
03:28:29.560
forgive me if this sounds um i'm trying to be cordial here but i do believe there
03:28:33.800
is this engine in the united states from the conservative movement that says
03:28:37.080
it is about islam you know this is glenn beck's book this is sort of the fox
03:28:40.960
news mantra it is islam islam is the problem and and i'm not an islamist i'm a
03:28:45.940
catholic i'm not pro-islam and i wouldn't even call myself pro-iran i'm pro-america
03:28:50.060
and to sort of narrow the discussion let's talk about islamism let's talk
03:28:54.080
about jihadism i agree with you there is an element of uh jihadism in the
03:28:58.380
middle east there are these radical muslims that they want to return to the
03:29:01.740
faith of the pious ones the ancient muslims the first two or three
03:29:04.840
generations of muslims they come from saudi arabia hezbollah hamas uh the
03:29:10.660
iranian back groups do not attack americans on american soil they're not
03:29:14.020
global powers they're local powers they're regional powers they don't attack the
03:29:17.880
united states they may attack the united states in beirut or iraq because the
03:29:21.720
united states is in their territory we're in the middle east we're in their
03:29:25.160
neighborhood we're backing israel's brutal war on lebanon in the 80s where
03:29:28.760
they come in massacres castrating people scalping people uh you know brutal
03:29:32.840
atrocities that are well documented that israel i mean their own commission
03:29:36.420
blames ariel sharon for this the defense minister so you know they don't attack us
03:29:41.340
on our soil the terrorists that do attack us are wahhabist they're salafist
03:29:45.560
that comes from saudi arabia saudi arabia spent billions of dollars promoting
03:29:49.520
wahhabism which is the ideology of al-qaeda of isis we backed the mujahideen
03:29:54.560
in afghanistan we backed bin laden we do arms deals with saudi arabia and you know
03:29:58.660
what to some extent this radicalism is going away and it came from turkey saudi
03:30:03.600
arabia qatar these other places and it's going away because we made a deal with
03:30:07.860
muhammad bin salman we did arms deals throughout or allies throughout buy oil
03:30:12.040
from them throughout we didn't invade saudi arabia and install a western liberal
03:30:15.800
democracy you know we don't like your regime we're going to drop bombs on you
03:30:19.180
we negotiated with them over time and by the way they were the biggest problem
03:30:22.820
as far as iran is concerned it's important to analytically determine their
03:30:26.640
strategic interest because that's how you determine what we have to do about it
03:30:30.080
israel wants regime change in iran that's why iran wants a bomb to deter this
03:30:35.600
which is a credible fear now the united states won't let iran have the bomb
03:30:39.500
now if you want to give iran the soviet union treatment and bankrupt them
03:30:43.180
through maximum pressure and sanctions that's what we were doing but you're
03:30:47.140
calling for regime change we didn't do regime change in the soviet union
03:30:50.420
we allowed them and we went in there actually george bush managed it i think in
03:30:55.020
a good way we managed a peaceful transition of power after a long period
03:30:59.240
of soft power and smart power that we used against them you're saying we need to
03:31:03.520
go in and invade iran or not maybe invade iran but force them to have regime
03:31:07.840
change with cia operations foreign media maximum pressure sanctions backing
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israeli operations and i would say that's not in america's interest that's what
03:31:17.460
israel wants that's not what we want regime change has a terrible track record
03:31:21.300
from libya egypt iraq syria there's zero success stories i think that i agree with
03:31:26.460
you in some sense we don't want a nuclear iran but we need to understand why
03:31:30.700
we're on the threshold of one and that has to do with israel's ambitious and
03:31:34.480
aggressive actions in my opinion the move is restrain israel stop them from
03:31:39.800
attacking iran get iran to come back to the table and try to get them to agree
03:31:44.700
to some kind of framework like the jcpoa and maybe we could talk about the jcpoa
03:31:49.000
because to me that is the most important precedent i am trying to equal time i was
03:31:53.580
throwing a quick question back to the nash to give you a longer response because
03:31:56.960
i kind of i'm glad we have this debate i just figured it would be about the
03:32:00.600
current situation i love the history but we're kind of still in that and i'm glad
03:32:04.440
you guys are so informed trying to educate people but just in in general you guys go
03:32:07.900
wherever you want counter back what he was saying today but then i would i would like
03:32:10.960
to just interject the current crisis where do you see it going the fatwa uh trump
03:32:15.480
saying i'm gonna kill you know you're lucky i don't kill you i might kill you
03:32:18.620
the iranian leader which i support trump and love him but you know that that was
03:32:21.920
provocative i mean and and also ask you guys where you think this is going and is
03:32:26.000
there a path for peace and then a larger debate which i figured you guys would get into
03:32:29.580
first about the israel lobby all right let me let me say some things about
03:32:34.900
regime change to lay a foundation of what i think the maga view on this is
03:32:40.520
because i think the maga view on this is a repudiation of bush
03:32:44.380
but it's not a repudiation of reagan in fact it's a restatement
03:32:48.120
of the reagan principles although admittedly in a very different
03:32:52.520
situation obviously in the 70s and 80s the reagan
03:32:56.120
um focus was on the soviet empire the situation now is is totally different but there are a lot of
03:33:02.480
really bad regimes in the world and these are regimes that harm our interests in all kinds of
03:33:08.280
ways so ask a simple question is it in our interest for these really bad regimes and i'll
03:33:14.160
be happy to go through a list and we can agree on what they are would it be a good idea um for these
03:33:20.000
regimes to have change for the bad guys who are running these regimes to go get away for the
03:33:26.780
regimes themselves to be toppled and for something else to take their place so if we look at iran for
03:33:31.900
example i would say i am willing to take any chance on getting rid of the mullahs these um these um
03:33:38.560
jihadi mullahs these people who wish death to us uh and are building up the means to do it
03:33:44.900
oh and i don't know okay maybe nick's right maybe he's wrong i tend to believe the mullahs over nick
03:33:50.120
they say that they want to have global jihad they say that they want a global caliphate they say that
03:33:57.260
they're building up the strength to do it they're allying with other people who certainly do have
03:34:01.800
nuclear weapons and do have that kind of power so would it be a good idea to have regime change in
03:34:07.080
iran would it be in our interest forget about israel of course it would now a separate question is
03:34:12.180
what are we willing to expend for that to happen so my question to nick is all right let's start at
03:34:18.060
the very beginning would you be willing to expend 50 cents to get the mullahs to leave to quit to go
03:34:25.540
home to to become refugees and go to other countries they can go to luxury apartments in qatar and and
03:34:31.620
elsewhere and let the iranian people have a plebiscite we're not going to go in there we're not going to
03:34:36.840
arrange tribal meetings we're not going to take over the country we're going to let them fix it
03:34:41.340
i would be very confident that what comes after whatever it is which could be autocracy it could
03:34:47.040
be democracy it could be some hybrid is going to be better than what's there now so i think nick is
03:34:51.680
so blinded by his hatred of israel that he's losing sight of america first he's become automatically
03:34:58.020
friendly to the mullah so he's giving him a much more rational account of of the iranian interest than
03:35:04.280
he even gives of american interest i mean every time he talks about america he uses the phrase
03:35:09.220
we but let's remember that we've had alternating regimes between republicans and democrats so he
03:35:15.380
mentioned the arab spring the arab spring was basically an anti-american operation organized
03:35:21.500
with the group with the help of barack obama barack obama wants iran to have nukes he was trying to
03:35:27.560
create space for them to do that and give them money to enable them to do that why because obama has an
03:35:34.060
ideology that's anti-american so we can't just say we and take the blame for what obama did
03:35:40.400
watch the clock trying to just be a referee here okay good points uh nick well that's a lot to tackle
03:35:47.760
there i would say in the first place we and i have to address this first just to get it out of the way
03:35:52.240
when you say we take the mullahs at their word you're citing a obscure one of their clerical leaders
03:35:58.620
and you say well that guy said it's about islam that defines their whole regime if you want to
03:36:03.880
take them at their word let's go to the supreme leader the supreme leader is the top cleric in
03:36:07.660
iran the top cleric in shiite islam it's in their constitution supreme leader's got to be a cleric
03:36:12.860
the ayatollah promulgated a fatwa 20 years ago that says that attaining nuclear weapons and using them
03:36:19.260
is against islamic law and that has been cited over and over again in 2005 in 2015 in recent
03:36:25.360
negotiations they say the supreme leader says it's contrary and i could give you the quotes
03:36:30.040
completely to islamic doctrine to have nuclear weapons so you can't have it both ways you can't
03:36:34.380
say we're going to take them at their word when one guy in the government says we're going to take
03:36:37.900
over the world but you can't have it both ways and say we can't listen to the supreme leader say
03:36:42.140
we don't want nuclear weapons we have to do one or the other i'll just say that first
03:36:45.400
then we get further we get into this question nick if you may i ask you a question about that
03:36:50.000
okay sure yeah go ahead go ahead okay well so and then with regard to regime change i would contend
03:36:57.140
that regime change is just not desirable you say you know well how much are you willing to expend to
03:37:01.380
pursue regime change i'm saying i don't think it's desirable and here's the evidence for this you say
03:37:05.700
well i'm confident something better will happen there'll be this democratic plebiscite what is the
03:37:10.920
history of regime change when we when osney mubarak was overthrown in egypt you got the muslim
03:37:15.440
brotherhood islamism muhammad morsi when gaddafi was overthrown you get warlords you get civil war
03:37:20.880
when syria was overthrown you get isis you get this guy al-julani who's literally from isis and al-qaeda
03:37:26.960
in afghanistan you still have the taliban if we overthrow iran and by the way here's the other
03:37:32.340
evidence when israel attacked iran two weeks ago they thought that the government would collapse and
03:37:37.960
the people would rise up and they would overthrow the government this is what they said for years
03:37:41.280
the opposite happened the people rallied to the to the supreme leader they said were under attack
03:37:47.100
from a foreign entity they actually rallied in the streets and there were major funeral processions
03:37:51.960
for the martyrs the the irgc leaders that were killed they rallied behind the government if anything
03:37:56.900
if this government goes down i don't know where you think we're going to get something better we're
03:38:01.800
going to get something more hardcore the reason why it matters to articulate iran's interest is to say
03:38:06.500
if their worst fear is regime change which is the credible fear of all leaders every leader wants to
03:38:11.700
stay in power no leader wants to meet the fate of gaddafi no leader wants to be deposed and live in
03:38:16.780
exile if their credible fear is regime change and we pursue that in one form or another and it's a
03:38:22.660
little naive to say they're going to come together and have a new government cia and state department
03:38:27.020
and israel will be all over that just like they have in all these other operations you're going to get
03:38:31.680
hardliners you're going to get irgc commanders that said our worst nightmare happened now we really got
03:38:37.320
now we're really in a apocalyptic war now we're really this is the end times the united states
03:38:42.680
overthrew us so i'm going to answer i'll watch the clock here do you want to answer this question or
03:38:47.340
just go back to the nash uh was that what question i read the exact question does you had a question
03:38:53.400
though oh well i've forgotten what the question was 100 right they united iran with this shit
03:38:59.520
your theme here a little bit because look i mean nick you're you know you're 26 and so it's
03:39:04.300
understandable that your view of history you keep saying history a regime change is a bad history
03:39:09.960
and the history you give is like four years old you know your your compass is so narrow that you
03:39:15.720
don't understand that there that i could give you 40 examples of regime change through history that
03:39:21.120
have all worked out beautifully some recent some more ancient there was regime change in spain
03:39:25.960
franco fell spain became a democracy you had autocrats all over south america those regimes all
03:39:32.460
changed many of those countries are much better off as a result uh the united states produced regime
03:39:37.740
change in mexico there was a dictator named santana he was the one who actually came and fought against
03:39:43.400
us in the alamo and in texas ultimately santana was overthrown that was excellent regime change
03:39:50.040
i'm not even counting of course the nazi regime in japan in in world war ii the soviet union was
03:39:55.980
regime change of an excellent uh quality so regime change sometimes works and sometimes it doesn't
03:40:01.720
work a lot of times it depends kind of on who does it and how now here's a key point and of course
03:40:06.880
you know um alex has brought up israel i want to get into israel so i'm happy to do that here's the
03:40:12.460
point i want to make it is very much in my view in our interest and israel to have regime change in
03:40:19.800
iran and if israel is willing to do it i would say more power to them i think trump is stopping them
03:40:28.180
trump says no i'm going to save the life of khamenei and so trump in this sense i think is more allergic
03:40:36.500
to the risks of regime change and willing to keep the malas in power but what's really important here
03:40:43.180
is israel is not controlling trump it's the other way around if you leave it to net and yahoo you leave
03:40:48.320
it to the knesset they would like to overthrow the malas and they have the power to do it and the fact
03:40:53.620
that they're not doing it shows that again to use my old phrase the great satan is controlling the
03:40:59.100
little satan and not the other way around there's another example just from today uh trump is basically
03:41:04.740
pressuring net and yahoo to have a 60 day ceasefire in gaza now first of all israel has every moral
03:41:12.460
right to level gaza and what i mean by that is quite honestly when a country attacks you when you
03:41:20.640
are invaded just like if there's a home invasion some guy comes into my house rapes my wife kills my
03:41:26.920
daughter kills my kids and then he runs away and i chase after him and of course i chased his car down i
03:41:32.900
stop him he jumps out of the car grabs his own kids and sticks them in front of him and then he
03:41:38.560
goes don't shoot because women and children are in front of me no what you've done you put your
03:41:44.960
children in danger first by invading my house and second by using them as human shields i am not under
03:41:51.120
any moral strictures based on what you did to me i have every right to attempt to destroy you and the
03:41:57.480
suffering of your women and children is the result of your actions and not mine so my point is once
03:42:03.340
you had october 7th and october 7th by the way bankrolled by iran planned in iran israel has every
03:42:10.980
right strategic moral political to strike out at gaza and to strike at iran and so the united states is
03:42:19.000
the one that's tying their hands and so once again even with this gaza treaty you can see that the man in
03:42:24.220
charge the numero uno is not netanyahu it's trump okay so i want nick to be able to come back i gotta
03:42:31.360
say something here dinesh you're a great guy i respect you love your films every 20 years but the
03:42:36.320
analogy of somebody breaking your house raping and killing your wife and daughter then you chase
03:42:41.780
them down so he uses his kids they're still innocent and and look i get it 50 000 dead in gaza
03:42:46.980
the whole liberal media making it the biggest thing ever i'm sad it happened the left loves way more
03:42:51.780
than that it's like 400 000 but 377k man or two israel's missing but to say then if somebody
03:42:58.380
uses their own kids as human shields i don't know somebody killed my wife and daughter they
03:43:02.300
use their kids as human shields i'd wait till they drop the kids or i'd you know whatever i i just i
03:43:06.400
just think it's an oversupport you wouldn't wait till they drop the kids what you would look for a
03:43:11.140
clean shot at them but if you accidentally hit their kids whose fault would it be yours or theirs
03:43:15.860
i get your point that that's that's fair touche so uh go ahead uh nick i'll stop interrupting
03:43:21.320
yeah well i i uh forgive me but i have to do this you know you said that i'm a young man and my
03:43:27.760
view of history is so short well let's talk about some of your history here you were you're a big
03:43:33.680
supporter of the war in iraq and i want to actually read and go back to what you said about it in 2003
03:43:38.720
in 2007 because i think this is fair you said in 2003 that saddam's support for terrorism his attempt
03:43:45.860
to acquire nuclear weapons makes him an imminent danger to world peace and security uh that was in
03:43:51.460
2003 four years later you said the important point about the wars is that 50 million afghans and
03:43:57.340
iraqis are free and for the first time in their history they can control their own destiny liberals
03:44:02.020
emphasize the negative and relish the failures of american foreign policy now there's a lot of other
03:44:07.940
quotes here but this speaks to the kind of hubris of the neocons of the interventionists of advocates
03:44:13.240
for regime change which is just like in 2003 there is this alarmism they support terrorism they're
03:44:19.800
building nuclear weapons now both of those things turned out not to be true there was no connection
03:44:23.800
between al-qaeda and saddam saddam did not have nukes then there's this justification after the fact
03:44:28.660
well you know it doesn't matter because it's going fine well 20 years later guess who took over iraq
03:44:33.800
iran iran filled the power vacuum guess who retook over afghanistan the taliban so you know you can
03:44:40.620
talk about like germany and japan i think those things are fundamentally different for starters
03:44:44.380
because japan attacked us first on our soil in hawaii i mean that's fundamentally different but
03:44:49.300
in terms of regime change this does harken back to iraq and i've seen your videos where you talk about
03:44:54.320
the dissimilarities between the two situations i think they're very similar now as far as iran i don't
03:44:59.600
even want to get into gaza because that's a little bit we can later but i want to talk specifically
03:45:03.800
about iran in one of your videos you say well unlike iraq we had to rely on government intelligence with
03:45:10.040
iran we know about their facilities we know where they are we've seen the tunnels we've seen the
03:45:15.220
centrifuges we know what they're doing well isn't that sort of precisely the point when the united
03:45:20.040
states made the nuclear deal with iran they adhered to it for years the deal was made in 15
03:45:25.200
and from 15 to 2018 the iaea said they were in compliance with the deal they had 24-hour
03:45:30.800
monitoring they had cameras they had inspections and they were in compliance with the deal it wasn't
03:45:35.500
until a year after trump pulled out of the deal and forced all the other europeans to pull out as well
03:45:43.900
and we reneged on our commitments we pulled out and get didn't give them sanctions relief
03:45:48.320
we through secondary sanctions forced the europeans to pull out and they didn't get sanctions relief
03:45:52.800
it was only until 2019 that iran started to gradually renege on their commitments and and
03:46:00.260
it went in succession where uh america killed qasem suleimani which is one of their generals then iran
03:46:07.140
began to enrich without limitations they enriched and they engaged in all nuclear activities without
03:46:12.640
any kind of uh restrictions it wasn't until 2021 when israel attacked natans twice cyber attacks and
03:46:19.980
sabotage attacks that iran began to enrich to 60 percent every action has this equal and opposite
03:46:25.920
reaction iran was a partner in 2001 iran helped us build the northern alliance they helped us put
03:46:31.580
kaisar or a karzai in power in afghanistan a few months later george bush calls them the axis of evil
03:46:37.560
this is how we treat iran now okay i'm not defending i'm just looking at the clock trying to you guys
03:46:42.720
interrupt each other just every few minutes maybe i should just go bing and the other person
03:46:46.220
interrupts you guys are so polite dinesh all right well uh first of all i want to do a mea
03:46:51.680
culpa here because i was wrong about the iraq war not because i said iraq had new i'm sorry about
03:46:58.100
iraq war not because i said iraq had nuclear weapons of course you remember with uh george w bush the
03:47:03.000
claim was that they had these so-called weapons of mass destruction not quite the same as nukes but
03:47:07.700
the idea was it could be chemical weapons it could be a weapon that could kill a large number of people
03:47:13.060
now this information which was given to us from high levels in the u.s government i think
03:47:18.600
was the first case of where we learned that we can't always trust the government uh and we can't
03:47:24.640
trust the government because these intelligence agencies have their own agenda and this was a
03:47:29.840
neocon scam and i gotta say i might have been a little too deeply in the neocon world i went for it
03:47:35.460
but unlike a lot of the neocons i broke with them uh most of my former colleagues at aei won't speak to me
03:47:42.700
uh i left the neocon camp which is now basically the never trump camp and i came into the trump camp
03:47:49.480
because i think the trump was based on the idea that look we've learned some valuable lessons from
03:47:54.240
the iraq war and that is this idea of trying to occupy other countries is a great mistake by the
03:48:00.500
way the united states had every right to blow up the taliban to chase them out of power those were
03:48:06.680
the guys who supplied the monkey bars for 9-11 so if you're talking about a direct attack on the united
03:48:11.280
states yes it was al-qaeda but the taliban was a hospitable regime that trained them what we should
03:48:17.300
have done is turn to some rival tribes some war there are plenty of warlike tribes in afghanistan
03:48:21.760
and said listen we're going to turn it over to you you keep kicking their ass from now on and we're
03:48:26.780
out of here but we didn't do that we went over there we started you know conducting meetings and
03:48:31.400
talking about women's rights and a whole bunch of nonsense and the whole thing backfired on us so
03:48:35.840
that's a bitter lesson that we've learned uh and i think i'm with you on that nick all right but iran
03:48:42.460
is a different animal and i think this is this is the key um iran is the one that is threatening
03:48:49.740
israel not the other way around what does israel want out of iran you think israel wants to go
03:48:54.040
occupy iran you think israel has designs on iran israel has one of the smallest most god-forsaken
03:49:00.100
pieces of earth on the planet they are just trying to hold onto it and by the way it's theirs now what
03:49:07.840
do i mean by that i want this is a very important issue because how do you get a country i mean how
03:49:13.180
are countries how do you get the title deeds of a country they're really only three ways fight for
03:49:17.700
them one way is you're the original inhabitants right like the native americans are the original
03:49:21.920
inhabitants they go it's ours that's one way the second way is there some sort of a
03:49:26.060
a negotiation a treaty you know if someone gives it to you and you get it that way a third way is
03:49:32.020
conquest uh that's how we got large parts of mexico that's how the united states now reaches from one
03:49:37.240
end of the ocean to the other we took a lot of it by force so that's the third way most of the
03:49:42.740
boundaries of most of the countries of the world are established by war and by nothing else now
03:49:48.040
interestingly with america you could say that on one on one side the native americans have the right
03:49:54.280
they were here first so they have the title deeds and then you can say on the other side well we
03:49:58.440
conquered them we fought a war they lost that's that so it's ours but with israel all the arguments
03:50:04.760
benefit israel they were the original inhabitants they were there for 4 000 years going back to the
03:50:10.680
time of abraham number two they were awarded israel by the united nations at at in 1948 and number three
03:50:19.100
they have fought multiple wars at least three 1948 1967 1973 they beat the combined invading armies of
03:50:27.860
syria jordan egypt so the arab world united against them they kicked their butts and so whether you're
03:50:34.920
looking at okay that's a long run i was fascinating who took it by conquest i didn't look at the clock
03:50:39.860
like five minutes i'm we're so we're running over nick i gotta be fair nick you got five minutes because
03:50:44.200
i just let him run for five minutes go ahead it was great i was listening just sorry i gotta go ahead
03:50:48.300
yeah you know once again it just gets back to the analytical framework for the conflict is that
03:50:55.080
these are rational actors and and maybe we'll get into israel's objectives iran wants a nuclear arsenal
03:51:00.800
to deter an attack from the united states and israel i think that's a credible fear the united states
03:51:06.740
interest is they do not want nuclear proliferation so we don't want iran to acquire a nuclear weapon
03:51:12.080
we don't necessarily have an interest in regime change israel's strategic objective is to overthrow
03:51:17.980
the government of iran and why it goes back to the likud party and their takeover of the government
03:51:23.040
in the late 1970s they witnessed what happened in the camp david accords which is that egypt uh got
03:51:29.520
the sinai back in exchange for peace they witnessed uh some of the israeli ministers try to negotiate
03:51:34.680
with the palestinians they called it land for peace we'll give you some of the west bank in exchange
03:51:38.660
for peace we'll give syria the golan in exchange for peace was the was the idea they thought that's what
03:51:44.020
was going to happen and these like kudniks the people that have been running israel basically for
03:51:48.440
50 years nearly uninterrupted they said we can't keep giving up land in exchange for peace they said
03:51:54.160
we need to go on the offensive this is in oded yanone's plan for the 1980s he was an advisor to
03:51:59.380
ariel sharon this is in the clean break memo in 1996 and both of these doctrines and this is consistent
03:52:05.280
throughout you know 20 30 year period they said we need to go on the offensive and we need to
03:52:10.300
basically destroy all the big states that are supporting palestine all the big states that might
03:52:16.060
pose a threat to israel and that is why they push for regime change against saddam that's why they
03:52:20.700
push for destabilization of syria and ultimately they saw iran is sponsoring hezbollah and the shiite
03:52:26.440
groups in southern lebanon and then eventually hamas and so israel has an interest in what they call
03:52:31.840
creating statelets they don't want big powerful regimes like nasser's egypt like the assad dynasty in
03:52:38.900
syria like gaddafi and libya they want small manageable fiefdoms where they're going to
03:52:44.500
dismember libya into like three countries dismember syria into druze alawite and sunni dismember iraq
03:52:51.180
into shiite kurdish and sunni they want to do the same thing to iran and that is because and i agree
03:52:56.280
with you israel wants to be safe but the you characterize israel as small and fledgling and just
03:53:02.180
trying to hold on to their land they're the only nuclear power the most sophisticated most powerful
03:53:06.880
military and intelligence operation in the middle east as evidenced by this very one-sided conflict
03:53:11.620
and what they want to be safe is regional hegemony in order to be safe from all threats they want to
03:53:17.720
make it so that there are no threats that's why the road to israeli safety and their right to exist
03:53:22.840
runs through regime change destabilization and civil war and so i'm saying look that that's probably in
03:53:28.420
their best interest but it's not in ours and so that's why i agree with trump we should pursue
03:53:33.000
diplomacy with iran and try to get them to give up their nuclear program with limitations and
03:53:37.740
restrictions without regime change which is unpredictable and has negative effects for us
03:53:42.580
israel wants to regime change and they want us to pick up the pieces and clean up after them
03:53:46.880
just as we did in all these other countries and we deal with the terrorism and the hatred and we deal
03:53:51.440
with the high gas prices and all the rest of it so that's the america first position restrain israel
03:53:56.860
from pursuing regime change restrict iran's nuclear program you can use maximum pressure and reagan
03:54:02.120
doctrine to do it i'm fine with that but i think diplomacy is preferable and that's in our interest
03:54:06.820
to try it that's my position okay so i want to go back to the desk here and we're approaching
03:54:11.220
15 minutes of this this is amazing guys stay as long as you want i also want to get to
03:54:14.880
questions from x and i'll just say because i'm not trying to throw this either way i you know i have
03:54:20.020
complex views i know it's all nuanced i think both you're making great points and i'm public about
03:54:24.420
that i want to blow up israel and i also you know and i and i don't like the mullahs but i don't want
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to have war with iran i know most people don't even like it my issue is we saw netanyahu strike
03:54:35.080
them first and drag us in and look i know their proxies iran's been striking them in lebanon and
03:54:41.100
in the west banks and gaza and with the houthis and i mean i i you know what can say you started
03:54:45.420
first okay and iran you know does make all these statements you know rhetorical we're going to drive
03:54:49.840
you in the ocean and blow you up and all the rest of it okay so my my larger sure sure today i'm gonna go
03:54:56.220
to you i just i'm pretty good here i just want to and i got some questions coming up here here here
03:55:00.400
very soon for both of you and we're gonna go to questions but honing in because you both of you
03:55:06.260
guys are very smart and i'd like to hear not even i mean it's a debate but but also a discussion
03:55:10.700
what do you think's about to happen i know dinesh you have amazing contacts trump today says twice
03:55:15.800
at alligator alcatraz that oh we got a deal monday you're gonna love it and netanyahu's coming and all
03:55:22.020
this and usually trump doesn't just bluff that sounds really good then you have the moolahs
03:55:27.680
putting out a very rare fatwa against trump and netanyahu on sunday so just in general looking at
03:55:34.300
that but but but i will just say israel initiating the latest round and us coming into it a week into
03:55:41.860
it and then all of that and then i can predict the media was going to say didn't take out the sites
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clear the sites were highly damaged or obliterated but then did they hide this material then the
03:55:52.740
moolahs are we're going to go all the way to enrichment and we did hide it and it's like to get
03:55:58.000
out of this the moolahs seem to do whatever it is keeps it going it's very bizarre it's what's easy
03:56:04.340
for me on like straight western politics to know who the sides are what the interests are man i wish
03:56:09.540
i was moderating this debate bro i really wish i was moderating this shit i would do dude come on
03:56:14.920
man as a moderator i was supposed to just have easy answers here a lot of bizarre behavior why
03:56:20.660
would the moolahs put a photo out well because maybe they're about to fall as we're seeing some
03:56:24.580
evidence their foreign minister on tv contradicting them saying the nuclear sites were basically
03:56:28.220
destroyed so the intel i'm getting is they could fall what happens if the moolahs are cornered then
03:56:33.260
and you see this this just is a complex when i hosted nick with with destiny that was way better
03:56:40.000
because i had time rounds what topic like dude come on man fuck i'm literally opposed to each
03:56:46.000
other and like trump said both sides don't know what the fuck they're doing they've been fighting
03:56:49.700
so long i agree with that how could generally gut level where do both of you see this going we'll go
03:56:54.860
to the next first and finish up with nick's response if you want but then where do you see
03:56:58.540
this going next can this be de-escalated what are the paths out of this uh dinesh and susu yeah
03:57:05.620
the reason i keep anchoring our discussion not just in history but kind of in the facts on the
03:57:10.660
ground is because it's hard to have a debate when the when the facts are really fuzzy right
03:57:14.700
so you mentioned alex that netanyahu strike struck first but if it is true if it is true that iran was
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a driving force between behind october 7th then israel did not strike first israel struck second
03:57:28.080
second of all let's remember a lot of times i mean if we go back in history not very far
03:57:33.380
you know hitler attacks poland and great britain great britain declares war on germany
03:57:38.440
japan attacks the united states at pearl harbor did we just go to war with japan no we didn't
03:57:43.400
we sent a patent starts taking u.s troops into europe we went after the nazis even though the
03:57:48.640
nazis did not attack us directly it was the japanese who did all right let me turn to nick nick says that
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it's the goal of israel to somehow topple all the big strong powers in the middle east and let's test if
03:58:01.020
that's true which are the big strong powers in the middle east and the answer is certainly in the
03:58:05.820
muslim world there are three there is saudi arabia there is egypt and there is iran these are the three
03:58:12.000
big boys of the middle east and they are jostling by the way for power the one against the other
03:58:17.180
israel is has excellent relations with two out of the three now the only reason israel doesn't have
03:58:22.640
excellent relations with iran is iran continues to not only plot and scheme but openly declare and fund
03:58:30.400
military forces hezbollah also hamas that are aimed ultimately at eradicating israel from the map that's
03:58:38.520
the meaning of from the river to the sea so so israel is willing to get along with powerful forces in the
03:58:47.140
region it's made friends with some of them it gave back land to egypt it's on good terms with saudi
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arabia i think it would be on good terms with iran if iran wasn't driving the aggression from its side
03:58:59.600
so i completely reject nick's idea that somehow iran is fighting a defensive war nobody wants to
03:59:06.520
invade iran least of all israel israel has not would like to have nothing to do with iran they've got a
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successful society on their own now you're asking about trump and kind of where all of this is going
03:59:18.900
and i think i want to highlight the simple point that look trump is actually a kind of master of this
03:59:25.820
kind of well i'm going to call it mafia diplomacy by that i mean that he acts like don corleone he
03:59:33.000
twists people's arms he basically tries to pull everybody into line and sort of this idea number
03:59:39.420
one when trump basically even started talking about the idea of striking the iranian facilities there was a
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massive scream on the part of the let's call it the nick fuentes camp but there were many others in it
03:59:52.140
this is disastrous we're going to be in a war we're going to have tremendous casualties the
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iranians are going to strike back at us just wait for it none of this actually happened so if i'm going
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to show a little modesty about iraq it would be good for nick to admit that he and so many others were
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completely wrong about what the effect of trump's strikes were going to be number two israel is a
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country of 10 million people or 12 million people the united states is 350 million plus
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are you seriously telling me that israel is controlling the controlling america let's stop
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there you've got four minutes let's look nick and we're gonna go to break and come back i've got
04:00:30.660
questions and then listeners have questions from x and nick responding to that sure so to address the
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first point saudi arabia is not a major power in the middle east they we give them a lot of weapons
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and things like that but saudi arabia has a small population mostly foreign workers it's held
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together by this weird dynasty from 100 years ago because they sell oil they couldn't even defeat the
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houthis in yemen i mean they were at war with the houthis for 10 years with american backing with they
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said they were fighting al-qaeda in the arabian peninsula they couldn't beat back these guys they're
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pirates effectively so saudi arabia is not a major power and what's more is they're effectively in a
04:01:04.680
relationship with israel already they like the emirates like bahrain are going to enter into the
04:01:09.440
abraham accords they're submitted to israel and that's the fate if you are against the west if
04:01:14.760
you're against israel in the united states you get overthrown you get regime changed you get invaded
04:01:19.380
civil war or you're like egypt and jordan where you get bribed and become a western puppet to israel
04:01:25.260
and saudi arabia wants to follow suit so i would just say that and that's obviously the case also
04:01:30.100
because netanyahu and other ministers in the israeli government have said for 30 years they want regime
04:01:35.100
change in iran that's just not even disputed in the mid-1990s they're calling for regime change
04:01:39.300
in 2006 netanyahu is calling for regime change they're publishing videos all the time in farsi
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and english saying the iranian people need to rise up it's just not even a question that they they do
04:01:49.580
want that and they want that because iran is a rival iran is has one of the largest populations
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it's often said about the middle east you've got three countries turkey egypt iran the rest are
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tribes of flags iran has a big middle class big economy oil wealth they have a lot of intelligent
04:02:05.440
people they're a threat to israel's security and hegemony in the region and that's why israel wants
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to depose that country along with all the other ones with ambitions whether they be islamist or
04:02:16.140
pan-arabist with regard to israel and you know we can maybe get into this topic because i think we
04:02:20.780
sort of settled a lot of this other stuff we're looping a bit but to get into the question of israel
04:02:25.600
driving u.s foreign policy it's pretty clear you know trump initiated diplomacy with iran in april he
04:02:32.260
had netanyahu at the white house for talks about the tariffs and he announced that he was going to
04:02:36.940
engage iran in negotiations over the nuclear program that same day netanyahu went on tv and said the only
04:02:44.100
deal we will accept is if we get to blow up iran's nuclear program and if they follow the libya model
04:02:50.000
the libya model is where libya gave up their nukes with inspections and then we regime changed
04:02:55.480
them eight years later and that was obviously a poison pill to blow up the talks they've said
04:03:00.120
repeatedly just last week the defense minister came out and said we are pursuing decapitation of the
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supreme leader and when asked did you get permission from the united states he said we don't need
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permission on such matters and i believe of course you absolutely do i wish it was as you're describing
04:03:15.940
where we are in control of israel and they're our client this has never been the case israel was the
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driving force behind the road to the war in iraq they're the driving force behind the road to the
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war in iran and the question of and this is the last thing just briefly was i wrong about the strikes
04:03:31.280
in iran we're not in a war in iran of course we're in a war in iran trump killed suleimani in 2020
04:03:38.020
he comes back into office and picks up where he left off israel attacks iran and then we bomb
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fordo and this is going to be the case in the future iran says they're not giving up enrichment
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the united states says you have to have zero percent enrichment it's setting the stage for
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more strikes we've been in a state of hostilities nick fointes stay right there we're going to take
04:03:58.540
a break here i'm going to ask both you during the break of the producer is how long you want to stay
04:04:01.680
i'll go another 50 minutes i'll go another hour and a half two hours oh five hours this is riveting
04:04:06.060
and i think this is a really very professional intellectual debate this is not people trying to make
04:04:12.460
points really the other person they're both very knowledgeable uh this is a very former head of a
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federal agency best-selling other filmmakers super scholar nick for 26 is you disagree with his
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politics agree with him the guy's a phenomenon you know i don't know any 26 year old knows half what
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he knows uh it's very refreshing to hear this i'm not saying he's going over the audience head our
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audience is way more advanced than most people but i imagine a lot of people millions watching on
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expert now it's this big viral thing i'm having to like a lot of what they're saying like remember it
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oh yeah so i'm having trouble following some of this with the national some of the things he's
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saying and nick that i think about it oh yeah that's true so it was you know this is this is not
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baby time here this is not you know real simple mindless slogans this is a real debate here and this
04:04:55.620
is what debates i think really should be like the lincoln douglas debates uh so we'll find out how long
04:05:00.200
they want to stay uh this is all another issue because i told the crew on the x post asking what are your
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questions when the debate launched we can't find out of thousands of questions maybe 10 that are
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pro-israel and i'm not again i don't want to just come on here and read anti-israel stuff i want to
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get both sides for a debate we literally which the poll numbers show the whole world's turning against
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israel and they got nuclear weapons yeah because they're killing innocent kids on last friday but he
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said all right so look i'll give you guys some commentary here while alex talks um you know
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number one we showed that you know we did absolutely overthrow muke desi and the thing
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here that you know the shes the shoes is saying oh well 25 years later well since we overthrew him
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we put in a shah that was wildly unpopular and the shah basically raped the country for 25 years and
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that's what led to the revolution that's what he doesn't understand he's like oh well they just took
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like 25 years no the point is is that they elected a guy we came in with the israelis the brits
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and the americans operation ajax threw him out of power and then that led to the shah who absolutely
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destroyed them of their resources for 20 plus years that's what led to the islamic revolution of
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1979 okay sorry sorry you get two minutes before we go to break i mean go ahead okay i'm saying maybe
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what we can do is is do a brief uh sort of summary of our positions for a couple of minutes uh and then
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you know let's set a time and take questions and we can each get a chance to answer them uh and you
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know it's let's see it's a little after eight central time why don't we go till nine if nick's
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agreeable i think we had sort of agreed we'll do two hours total so i'm good with that no no sounds
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good you know what i can do because i got no serious questions on x i mean it's just i'll read
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some of these i mean they're good questions but it's all like foaming at the mouth you know just
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whatever the point is i'll read them okay i'm just being honest like i wanted to get both sides
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i'm not getting it we'll fire the phones up but i want at least an hour so let's go to 10 after
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nine i'll get that both from you because i want to take a bunch of comments here's the toll-free
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number fire up the phone system never fear the phones are here we'll have people call and actually
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have some real questions i'm not like oh look at joe's trying to get pro-israel questions no i'm
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not just gonna like literally read 50 questions in a row anti you know israel i want to get both
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sides for real debate uh so the toll-free number we're firing the system right now 877-789-2539-877
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777-889-2539-877-789-alex but it shows you just two years ago half the stuff would be pro-israel
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that's a whole nother issue what the poll numbers show the world turning against israel uh which
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you can even hate israel they got nuclear weapons they're not going away unless it's in armageddon
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877-789-2539 dinesh d'souza is a best-selling author and one of the top documentary filmmakers
04:07:49.140
probably the number one documentary for actual grosses uh dinesh d d'souza dinesh d'souza.com
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and of course you can find uh nick fointes on rumble where he dominates at nick j fointes on x
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nicholas j fointes.com we're going to take a short little four minute break and we're going to let both
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men have six minutes that way they get plenty of time uh all right so so yeah and then the other
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thing too right because here's the other thing that we need to also like kind of get into so and
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nick was talking about this but like the this whole like uh okay they're doing commercials this whole
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idea of like you know crazy radical islamism is like you know so dangerous and everything else like
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this and that the iranians want to kill us whatever look bro they don't give a fuck about the united
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states they don't it's our foreign policy that gets us in trouble because we sit there and we
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support israel we prop up israel we give them the weapon 70 of israel's weapons guys come from us
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they would not be able to defend themselves and do things that they do had it not been for the united
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states they don't give a shit about us man i'm telling y'all bro they don't give a shit about us
04:08:50.260
they give a shit because we prop up israel and israel is constantly trying to put massad agents in
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their in their fucking country get them killed do regime change do all this bullshit do these strikes
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violate ceasefires so that's what it really comes down to um also um i thought you know he mentioned
04:09:07.880
that he was like you know notice how i don't know if you guys noticed it but like dinesh was like
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oh yeah i made a mistake with iraq you know i was a neocon there but i left the neocon camp but then
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look at him he's advocating for war with iran so he never really changed falcon punch oh yeah like
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yeah i'm not a neocon i left that camp but he's over here advocating for war he's like yeah israel should
04:09:27.440
go ahead and attack iran and kill everybody bro what the fuck is that that's like a l take dude
04:09:31.660
and look honestly at the end of the day if israel wants to go ahead and fucking squirts to earth
04:09:36.300
and do what they want to do let them do it on their own let them do it on their own we don't need to
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get involved we don't need to get involved because regime change is going to be very fucking taxing
04:09:49.380
it's going to be very difficult to do we're going to have to put boots on the ground and like i told
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a job before we put roughly 200 000 soldiers boots on the ground in iraq with a smaller military a
04:10:00.420
smaller country and we did air strikes for like three weeks before now iran's a bigger country
04:10:05.040
with a more capable military it's going to be a bloodbath if we're to put boots on the ground
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so not man we're not going to do that shit um and then yeah like to not admit like i don't know
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if you guys caught dinesh didn't want to admit that israel runs our foreign policy he said that
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oh we're we're the we're the considered the big satan so we really run shit no we don't bro
04:10:25.100
no we don't if america ran shit right as as much as he claims we would be able to control israel we
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wouldn't be having them do all this crazy shit they're killing kids every single day guys the
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idf killed like 100 kids earlier today they're killing kids every fucking day you guys think
04:10:42.020
the us government wants to be involved in that no but makes us look bad and we have to run cover for
04:10:48.260
them and since they have such strong lobbyists in america where you can't even be a politician
04:10:53.920
unless you talk about the israeli lobby being awesome they have like they're impervious now
04:10:59.720
people are finally starting to wake up now and say fuck israel but guys it took 30 it took decades
04:11:05.480
ever since linda b johnson we've been a pro israel country since 1963 november 22nd 1963 the united states
04:11:14.280
became the united states of israel trying to tell y'all man when they swore linda b johnson in after
04:11:19.580
john f kenny was killed he was the last president that stood up to israel's bullshit and they killed
04:11:24.140
his ass so bro anyway let me uh they're still running ads i'm reading some of these chats how can
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israel do fuck all without us they seem to uh they never seem to articulate that there are nothing
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without us absolutely and they don't listen to us that's the point nick starts to cook with points
04:11:39.840
alex time for a break okay bro what the fuck is alex doing his moderation is running quite the show
04:11:43.680
the thing that sucks here what alex should have done was have prompts okay is our foreign policy
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conducted by israel bam let them get three rounds cool done is israel dragging us into a war with iran
04:11:57.720
bam three rounds next um should the united states get involved and to what level bam done and then you
04:12:09.600
can open it up for a fire round after that but the fact it's very disorganized i don't know if you
04:12:12.880
guys notice very disorganized kind of just letting the talk that's why they're going into history and
04:12:16.320
all this other shit alex didn't give clear parameters what he should have done this is what i do in all
04:12:22.780
my debates we're going to cover these three these are the three prompt questions these are the four
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prompt questions three rounds each topic per person that's what he should have done but he didn't do
04:12:32.200
that bro that's what meant that's why niggas got to give me the moderator bro this is why i'm the
04:12:37.320
best moderator bro some of you stupid ass niggas in the chat myron you're not even a good great man
04:12:40.980
you're a better moderator really nigga you see what's going on here stupid fucks some idiots in
04:12:46.580
the chat said myron i'm a better moderator than you you see modern me moderate debates dumbass the
04:12:51.180
best moderator there is in the beginning so why doesn't nick go first for six and i'll go for six
04:12:56.760
and then we'll go to questions perfect uh so and then i have one question after that but nick go ahead
04:13:01.260
yeah sounds good to me um so to sum up sort of what we've been talking about so far the question
04:13:07.780
is what is america first what's putting america first i'm not pro-iran i'm not uh an isolationist
04:13:14.600
or i'm not even necessarily opposed to the united states engaging other countries abroad what i am
04:13:19.800
opposed to is a policy that isn't in our interest and i think that regime change is something that
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historically in the middle east never goes our way it leads to chaos civil war ethnic cleansing failed
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states worse regimes than we got before i think the u.s interest in iran is to prevent them from
04:13:35.300
acquiring a nuclear bomb i don't think they're pursuing one right now i think they have a latent
04:13:39.940
threat to deter regime change from israel and i think that on the flip side of that israel has been
04:13:45.560
pushing for regime change in iran like they have in virtually every other country for 30 years
04:13:49.640
that's why the america first position how do we balance these two competing states which are
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they both have their religious zealotry they both have their share of terrorism
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i i neither of them are the united states how do we balance those competing forces in the middle
04:14:03.760
east i think we restrain israel from pursuing regime change in iran i think we make a deal with
04:14:08.580
iran to restrict their nuclear activity and that comes from a deep respect and humility about the
04:14:14.060
nature of regime change the size of iran the undertaking that regime change would be and with
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respect to what our own foreign policy is uh you know i think that we had a nuclear deal with iran
04:14:24.880
and it was going well they were abiding by it we had monitoring we had 24 7 cameras we knew what
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they were doing we have engaged iran in good faith before they've demonstrated by telegraphing strikes
04:14:35.340
and through calibrating them that they're rational that they can be patient strategically uh and i think
04:14:41.220
that we should attempt to do that again i think that trump and biden both tried to do that over the
04:14:45.960
past 12 years they've been repeatedly sabotaged by israel their dream is to drag us into a confrontation
04:14:52.260
where we fight their regime change war for them and i think that's something that serves only the
04:14:56.860
interest of israeli hegemony and not the interest of american strategic uh withdrawal and removal from
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the middle east so that we could focus on our real rival which is china so that that's kind of my big
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picture view and it's based on fundamental assumptions about the nature of iran's regime and what iran
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wants and the same is true about israel what the nature of the israeli regime is and what they want
04:15:16.540
and and so that's a summary of what i think the america first position is in this conflict
04:15:20.920
all right so you only went for uh like less than three minutes uh denesha suza
04:15:28.440
yeah i'll try to keep it brief as well i i've been trying to sort of figure out nick fuentes as this
04:15:35.260
debate has been going on and i've i've come to a kind of startling conclusion i i mean this only
04:15:41.100
tentatively because i don't know enough about nick but from what i'm hearing basically nick fuentes is
04:15:46.740
is a democrat um and what that means is that he can't be america first because he is echoing
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all the tired discredited uh have faith in the goodwill of our enemies have faith in treaties
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this is what democrats said throughout reagan throughout the cold war let's trust the russians
04:16:08.320
they can be they're trustworthy they want peace too don't they um and and now you know we have
04:16:14.680
nick and he's like you know we had a deal well it was obama's deal remember you think obama was a good
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guy you think obama was america first what do you think obama was up to america last um obama's idea
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was let's strengthen our enemies and undermine our friends why do you think he got rid of mubarak in
04:16:32.100
egypt because he was an ally of the united states and then we got the muslim brotherhood in power in
04:16:36.820
egypt that was that was not obama is not the same as jimmy carter jimmy carter was an idiot he was an
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nincompoop uh we'll give him the presidential nincompoopery award obama's malevolent obama represents
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ultimately if you follow what obama says it's basically what our enemies want and not what we
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want and so notice nick how close your position is to obama the iranians are reasonable the obama the
04:17:00.100
iranians don't have any um imperialistic ambitions they don't have any real ill will toward israel
04:17:06.040
their militarization is purely defensive uh we can make a peaceful deal with them the only thing you
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didn't say is we should give them a whole bunch of money i guess that's your one difference with obama
04:17:16.200
is you wouldn't give them the pallets of cash that obama turned over but otherwise you're saying pretty
04:17:21.820
much the same thing now here's what i'm saying which is the opposite in the world america has
04:17:26.620
allies uh and we have enemies uh our enemies our rivals their adversaries they wish us ill
04:17:34.000
they would do regime change over here if they could and who are some of those people well china
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to some degree russia certainly iran and so any i mean if you read klaus with sun tzu machiavelli
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the whole idea is you want to weaken your enemies and strengthen your friends that's what america first
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means it means promoting american interests in the world and you seem to be promoting the opposite
04:18:00.100
you seem to be saying well enemies aren't that bad and our friends aren't our real friends why don't
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we put some pressure on our friends and why don't we trust our enemies more i mean this is basically
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straight out the logic of the democratic party it's been disproven time and time again and i think
04:18:17.720
you're wrongly drawing lessons from the iraq war that are basically turning you into a 26 year old obama
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okay so i said six minute closing comments but nick went less than three you just went less than three
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so let's keep going here uh nick i'm sure you want to respond to that yeah i i didn't really expect where
04:18:36.640
you were going with that but in retrospect i should have when you said this is tentative and i you know
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i've just met you i i thought maybe it was going to be positive but i should have known it was going to
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be he's a democrat it's seen it's just a very strange thing that the moral universe you live in
04:18:51.180
seems to be based on partisanship it's republicans and democrats like the kkk the nazis iran like
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every ideology that's against like america and israel's interests can be can be kind of molded
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into this like democrat party narrative um you know the thing is about democrats and republicans i
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don't think there's a big difference we have the same national security apparatus obama had the same
04:19:13.340
defense um secretaries bush and we maintained very much a similar foreign policy under obama that we
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did under bush and then i get under trump biden and then trump again i think we have a deep state
04:19:24.620
the pentagon centcom national security council the director of national intelligence the ic i mean all
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these people are permanent bureaucrats i don't think there's a lot of daylight between republicans and
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democrats i think that's a distinction i wouldn't say i don't know what that means to be a democrat i'm
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a catholic i'm a reactionary i'm in favor of immigration moratorium i voted for trump in 16 like
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i don't know where you get off saying i'm a democrat other than that i think we should pursue
04:19:49.420
diplomacy and by the way it's not based on good faith towards our enemies like iran or russia or
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china for that matter it's based and anchored again in foreign policy realism i'm a realist i'm not
04:20:00.960
a liberal internationalist or a liberal globalist where i believe there's a world of friendly democracies
04:20:06.340
and autocratic foes i would say that israel is some similarly a foe israel spies on americans israel
04:20:14.200
has planned and perpetrated false flag attacks against americans in the past when 9-11 happened
04:20:20.060
bb netanyahu said it's a good thing because now we can sympathize with what they go through and they
04:20:26.280
looked at that as a gift because they thought that we would support them against the palestinians and
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then we would support them against their other rivals in the region uh you know so this idea that
04:20:36.100
we have friends and foes and you know the israel's part of the avengers and the iran is part of the
04:20:41.520
bad guys i think this is just juvenile and childish and it's like i'm debating fox news this kind of
04:20:47.680
stuff about okay so since we went off the debate for much it's fine dinesh counter that and then and
04:20:53.140
back to nick response back but i have a few questions for you that i want to go to callers and i want to
04:20:57.620
go to uh comments on x but dinesh anything back yeah the the polarization of the world is is not the
04:21:08.560
result of some sort of um ideological fantasy uh it's a simple reality you can see it in the animal
04:21:15.780
kingdom if there are two strong animals uh that are in a in a herd they will fight each other for
04:21:21.900
leadership if there are two powerful countries in the world they will become rivals and the small
04:21:26.860
countries around them will basically take sides and you will you will begin to see this kind of
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polarization survival of the fittest it's not survival if it's a description of a power struggle that drives
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international relations and you only you'll be very naive if you don't see that force is at the
04:21:44.380
bottom of international politics now domestically american politics is divided generally into two camps
04:21:50.760
now i realize that nick wants to say oh they're just the same but just think of the stupidity of
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saying that because if they're just the same it would make no difference if jimmy carter or ronald
04:22:01.380
reagan won the 1980 election i honestly believe that if reagan wasn't in power for two terms the
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soviet union might not have collapsed in a sense nick is saying he voted for trump in 16 but it didn't
04:22:12.460
really matter it wouldn't have mattered if hillary was president because hillary would have been pretty
04:22:17.840
much the same as trump and similarly nick is saying now that he wouldn't mind really if kamala harris won
04:22:24.440
the 2024 election because after all the country would be pretty much the same because the two
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parties are a uniparty and as to quote him these are meaningless distinctions well i think the whole
04:22:35.380
idea of america first of maga of trump is based on the idea that look yes there are common forces the
04:22:42.400
intelligence agencies have been a malign influence in both parties uh and there are of course there is
04:22:48.060
a kind of drinking at the swamp establishment and republicans and democrats are part of that but
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nevertheless there are distinctions that really matter this country already in just a few months
04:22:59.100
is very different than it would be if kamala harris the border would not be secure we wouldn't be looking
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at making these tax cuts permanent we wouldn't be looking at 10 000 new border agents uh and on and on it
04:23:11.580
goes we would be dealing with the trans phenomenon would be shoved down our throats probably uh nick uh
04:23:17.300
you and alex would still be thrown off social media so the trump phenomenon matters trump has made a
04:23:24.360
difference i'm not saying that trump is not open to criticism i'm not saying that maga means some kind
04:23:30.100
of a we all have to follow trump like the pied piper but what i am saying is that trump has proven
04:23:35.480
far more often to be right than wrong and if i'm choosing to give the foreign policy thank you thank you
04:23:41.280
brief comeback from nick i think i'm gonna go with trump all right i understand nick quick comeback
04:23:45.840
and then i got a couple questions for you guys i don't want to go to questions from the audience
04:23:48.720
uh yeah i mean as far as um all of this is concerned trump and biden and kamala and all of that i would
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say yes i don't think it's even controversial at this point to say that there really is no distinction
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especially when it concerns matter foreign policy i mean biden gave israel 20 billion dollars last year
04:24:07.420
when israel was in peril when israel was fighting this war in gaza and against the houthis and hezbollah
04:24:11.980
it was biden last year in april that gave israel 20 billion dollars which is a huge military aid
04:24:17.840
package uh and and biden showed up when iran retaliated against israel in april of last year and
04:24:24.600
then again in october of last year and even earlier when israel initiated these uh these provocations
04:24:29.880
earlier in july and in april 24 it was biden that deployed the carriers to protect israel and shoot
04:24:35.660
down all the incoming missiles from iran and from hezbollah and from the houthis and actually
04:24:40.580
offensively bombed them bombed the houthis bombed the shiite militias in iraq and syria and for all
04:24:46.620
people like to say you know the democrats are abandoning our friends and empowering our our uh our
04:24:51.260
enemies uh no actually the opposite is true you know biden gave this huge aid package to ukraine our
04:24:57.200
big ally they gave a huge aid package to israel our big ally so i think that whether we had kamala or
04:25:03.480
trump we would be engaging in strikes against iran right now i don't think anyone even doubts that
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slightly um and so the question again what is america i don't care about being republican and
04:25:13.300
democrat it means nothing to me i'm independent i'm america first it's a question of what's in our
04:25:17.580
interest and you can say you can appeal to this tribalism and say you know you sound like jimmy
04:25:22.140
carter okay that's 50 years ago what's in america's interest is not another regime change war
04:25:27.480
no matter our level of involvement it's too unpredictable it's too much chaos there's no guarantee
04:25:32.660
we'll get something better or something that isn't horribly worse uh this is what israel wants
04:25:37.120
this is not what we want we want nuclear non-proliferation they want regime change okay
04:25:41.920
we have non-proliferation okay now now and again it's great it's amazing i want to go to comments
04:25:46.720
questions this is huge people are millions are tuning in right now just on x alone millions everywhere
04:25:51.980
else this is a real raw debate folks when you see corporate media the questions are already prepared
04:25:57.800
it's been planned for months or weeks this is real unfiltered none of us talked before the show
04:26:01.760
other than text messages hey are you ready to come on the show that's it so this is raw this is
04:26:05.620
what it's all about this is real media we're so blessed to be here so thankful the crew so blessed
04:26:09.800
for all the listeners and viewers tuning in and the clips of this going viral everywhere this is what
04:26:14.060
it's all about let me ask you both this question i know you're both pundits and both analysts and
04:26:19.320
you have your views and i think you both come from a position of realism and and integrity that you
04:26:25.060
believe what you're saying we all see the rose-colored darklies but we believe what we're saying
04:26:28.200
sometimes we're a little bit wrong and and me i'm mostly right maybe but i want you to both do
04:26:33.440
and and you know basically as a favor to me do what i do and i know you both do this because nick
04:26:42.920
you know said i think trump's very soon will you know hit iran when he was running for office
04:26:47.300
the last time you know eight nine months ago right before he got elected and he thought this would be
04:26:50.980
a big crisis and i know you know that's just made a lot of predictions come true i want to ask you both
04:26:56.140
first dinesh then nick gut level i think trump thought he did the right thing believed he was
04:27:03.100
shutting this down putting back the nuclear program the left and others won't do that they want to
04:27:07.240
keep it going which then adds the war the moods are saying don't worry we're going to enrage
04:27:10.300
you're going to stop us i see this as the beginning of quagmire i have a really bad feeling about where
04:27:14.660
it's going so here's the simple question which is a super complex question the most simple questions
04:27:21.200
are they look simple but they're not how do you gut level see this ending dinesh this is a
04:27:27.520
regime change wider war iran rolling over gut level how do you see this ending and how would you like
04:27:35.120
to see it end and what do you think we as american people can do to have this end in a peaceful way
04:27:38.840
all right i think that the trump strike on the three nuclear facilities was a brilliant move because
04:27:47.080
it was basically what it was is essentially an overnight job we fly over there we clobber their
04:27:55.040
nuclear facilities we don't suffer a single casualty they don't even know we're there they have no control
04:27:59.840
of their own skies we had all these fighter planes by the way accompanying those b2 bombers because b2
04:28:05.280
bombers can't defend themselves but not a single fighter plane was really needed they ended up just
04:28:10.220
flying sort of decoratively around the b2 bombers for no good reason and then they all came back safely
04:28:15.940
and what is the result a crippling of iran's nuclear facilities so look whether they were at 80 percent
04:28:22.440
whether they were getting there whether they were almost there whether they were weeks away whether
04:28:26.000
they were months away who cares their program has now suffered a devastating setback and even though
04:28:32.560
initially the media tried to deny it they've now pretty much come out and admitted it machiavelli says
04:28:38.160
something very profound people can get revenge for small injuries but they cannot get revenge for large
04:28:44.200
injuries and what that means is that by and large when you go poke somebody they're going to come
04:28:49.300
back and poke you back in the eye on the other hand if you give such a devastating blow from which
04:28:54.560
they can never recover they are too preoccupied with their own survival to even worry about you anymore
04:29:00.580
it's going to take a long time for iran to get back on its feet now i think that the malas are going to
04:29:07.100
try to survive to hang in there to slowly rebuild their power uh and so this is actually the downside
04:29:14.480
of striking and then leaving in a sense sort of snatching partial victory out of the jaws of total
04:29:21.320
victory because i don't think we're very far away from the malas essentially running away there were even
04:29:26.800
reports that some of the top iranian officials were already starting to leave the country and just
04:29:32.120
before the regime falls we go oh well we better stop you know we don't really care about quote
04:29:37.820
regime change and so yeah but that's because trump doesn't want to quagmire dinesh who knows who's
04:29:42.500
going to come into the vacuum we never know alex but the point is when you have these dangerous
04:29:48.600
situations in the world you have to make a judgment call about whether what's going to come later is
04:29:54.400
better or worse we have we have certain red lines one of them is we're not committing troops we're not
04:29:59.700
going to commit troops unless iran attacks u.s borders or u.s bases if they do that then trump's
04:30:06.520
you know we're not in a war has to be set so let me raise this now that we're deep into this i got a
04:30:10.640
few questions dash if the moodles are so insane and they just put a photo out which goes to that
04:30:15.540
side of the question on the other side they did like in 2020 when they attacked the iraq base and
04:30:20.900
called trump before and said we're going to launch 18 missiles in the desert and they did as a
04:30:24.120
face-saving event they did that again this time called ahead when they were going to hit qatar
04:30:28.540
and did that so they're so crazy why did they then telegraph all this and try to de-escalate
04:30:34.180
because because like i said come back to the quote from machiavelli when somebody is down on their back
04:30:41.520
and you're standing on top of them with your foot on their chest they're going to behave themselves
04:30:46.440
wonderfully they're going to be very see iran did not actually want to strike us because they realize
04:30:52.100
of course the logic if they strike us we're going to strike them 10 times harder and so they were like
04:30:57.240
good pussycat they basically were like we'll behave ourselves we'll pretend to attack you
04:31:01.860
and you pretend to go ouch ouch ouch i mean this is actually the definition of total victory if you
04:31:08.000
get into an mma fight with some guy and at the end he goes listen i want to convince my family that i'm
04:31:12.980
not a wimp so i'll pretend to throw a punch at the very end and you pretend that you're bending over
04:31:17.760
even though you've clearly won the fight what does that tell you and so you say maybe the fatwa is is that
04:31:23.160
as well how do we know some of their followers don't follow that order we we don't know that
04:31:28.460
and i think we should take preparations to me i don't have i don't i'm not a believer as nick is
04:31:33.180
an iranian goodwill i think if they put fatwas on you they're going to be radical muslims who are
04:31:39.060
going to be willing to carry it out there are probably some of those in this country so we need
04:31:43.480
to be taking preemptive or precautionary steps well yeah i think no doubt i think no doubt so so yeah
04:31:48.340
nick nick that's a lot to unpack go ahead yeah to answer the original question where this is going
04:31:54.440
i think we're trapped i think we're trapped in a situation where now it's inevitable that there
04:31:58.520
will be more tension there will be more tension there will be more conflict we're not getting
04:32:02.440
out of this and it basically comes down to this we had a deal with iran we overcame decades of
04:32:08.140
distrust and decades of suspicion from iran we made a deal that satisfied russia china the e3
04:32:14.760
countries european france germany and the uk and the united states we had a deal with monitoring
04:32:20.240
with verification with 24 7 cameras like dinesh himself said we know everything about their
04:32:25.840
program because they disclosed it to us and the iaea report said they had no weapons program
04:32:31.280
since at least 2009 but probably not meaningfully since 2003 so we had a deal everybody was playing
04:32:38.800
by the rules for years trump pulled us out and now they don't trust us again trump killed their
04:32:43.660
general now they hate us then trump engages them in diplomacy and he comes back to power
04:32:49.320
and there's all this fanfare about they're going to make a deal we might be able to make terms with
04:32:54.300
the united states and what does trump do he says we knew the whole time this was a ploy for a sneak
04:33:00.380
attack by israel to attack iran then we come in and bomb them and contrary to what dinesh says if
04:33:05.920
there's some new report i haven't seen it on the contrary u.s intelligence europeans iran and
04:33:11.160
israel all have said we did not destroy fordo we didn't even destroy their nuclear stockpile they
04:33:17.000
said we weren't even trying to destroy their nuclear stockpile so now what they're saying is
04:33:21.020
iran still has a stockpile they have centrifuges we don't know about iran says we're never giving up
04:33:26.560
enrichment they're moving heavy equipment to fordo to rebuild it and what are the israelis saying the
04:33:31.420
israelis are saying we're going to treat iran like lebanon which means we're going to bomb them all
04:33:35.140
the time with no restriction so you know this ceasefire israel never makes good on ceasefires
04:33:40.320
they made one with hamas they didn't implement the second phase they made one with hezbollah
04:33:44.540
they bombed them throughout none of them trust israel none of them trust us and now if we don't make a
04:33:50.860
deal with iran there really is only one other option iran doesn't trust us russia didn't bail them out
04:33:56.300
they're clearly vulnerable to israeli intelligence the only deterrent that they can get to prevent further
04:34:01.680
hostilities you know now they're talking about pulling out of the npt and maybe getting a nuclear
04:34:06.020
weapon so as far as i'm concerned our fate is sealed and israel drove they orchestrated this every step
04:34:12.060
of the way they engineered the confrontation in april last year they attacked iranian generals in syria
04:34:18.220
they provoked the other confrontation in july they killed the leader of hamas in teyran i want to go to
04:34:25.060
comments and questions now both of you making very interesting points quick analysis a really quick one
04:34:30.760
just a really quick just a quick response because it seems to me that nick has been moving in a kind
04:34:36.820
of crab fashion saying one thing contradicting it then saying the opposite then saying the opposite
04:34:41.880
again and here's what i mean at the beginning of this debate nick you said emphatically iran has every
04:34:48.720
good defensive reason to want to build a nuclear weapon you said israel has nuclear weapons and so iran
04:34:56.160
in order to counter israel needs to have a nuclear weapon on its own then you said but even though it's
04:35:02.640
in their interest to build a nuclear weapon albeit defensively somehow a treaty is going to convince
04:35:08.580
them not to do it it's kind of like saying it's in my interest to do something but because you put a
04:35:13.560
piece of paper in front of me i'm going to go gee i'm not going to do that because i'm such a nice guy
04:35:18.560
no if it's in iran's interest to build a nuclear weapon they're going to try to do it openly or covertly
04:35:25.080
but they're going to try to do it one way or the other according to your own logic then you said
04:35:29.900
we tried to bomb their facility and you said but you know what we probably didn't do a very good job
04:35:35.220
and a lot of their nuclear facilities are in place uh and in fact they might just turn around and build
04:35:40.720
a nuclear weapon now you just told us that iran has no desire to build a nuclear weapon you told us
04:35:46.220
earlier that it's against islam they've made some islamic proclamation against it but now you're
04:35:51.280
telling us first of all that there were obviously some fairly advanced facilities we tried to bomb
04:35:56.760
them but unsuccessfully so they're still in place and gee if the iranians get really mad they can now
04:36:02.520
just get together and put that nuclear bomb together well obviously that means if it's in
04:36:06.900
their interest to do it and they're not that far from doing it now we were certainly right to bomb
04:36:12.620
them if anything we should have had a second round of bombing to make sure we finish the job
04:36:16.660
according to you i want nick to be able to comment i'll keep you guys all night but i want to go to
04:36:20.300
these comments you guys got to say we can do that callers and comments but nick back to my question
04:36:25.180
and respond to nash quick summation how do you see this ending and i know you don't have a crystal ball
04:36:30.880
but currently where's this going regime like i said i think we're trapped i think we're trapped it's
04:36:36.480
going to end in regime change one way or the other as far as the apparent contradictions i said at the
04:36:41.360
start that they are engaging in nuclear hedging and what does that mean it means that they have the
04:36:46.020
infrastructure the expertise and the technology to make a bomb if the security situation demands it
04:36:52.580
the reason they they probably could have developed a bomb by 2012 the earliest estimate says that iran
04:36:58.180
could have had a bomb they had all the pieces in place by 2010 and and the longest term timeline
04:37:04.680
2012 is when they could have had a bomb why did they not do that because getting a bomb would invite
04:37:11.260
aggression because the united states has a non-proliferation doctrine but not having any
04:37:16.300
latent ability would be weakness and that would also invite aggression countries that don't have
04:37:21.300
nukes can be destroyed by countries that have them so that's why it's hedging it's hedging their
04:37:26.340
development wait wait let me finish let me finish let me finish because this is really important
04:37:30.100
so the reason why the deal changes this dynamic is because if we can give iran confidence and
04:37:37.200
assurances we are not going to invade you we don't have designs on overthrowing you then iran can have
04:37:45.160
restrictions on their nuclear program and they can ensure us they're not going to weaponize i said
04:37:49.560
there's other countries that do this too japan south korea taiwan they're hedging as well why do they
04:37:55.060
have nuclear programs north korea and china now the reason they don't have nuclear bombs is because they
04:38:00.480
can rely upon the united states to deter attacks from north korea and china if that changed it would be in
04:38:07.040
their interest to develop a bomb so it has to do with their level of confidence it has to do with
04:38:10.980
the current security situation so they have the ability to make one getting one would invite
04:38:16.080
aggression not having one makes them vulnerable now we had a chance to make a deal that was based
04:38:20.520
on mutual trust and assurances we blew up that trust that's why iran started gradually increasing
04:38:26.200
their stockpile of highly enriched uranium in reaction to cyber attacks assassinations against their
04:38:32.200
scientists their generals attacks against their nuclear plants and then wait wait last thing last
04:38:36.940
thing last thing super important when we bombed iran that's their worst nightmare so that's why now
04:38:42.860
they're they might be contemplating oh well the breakout time is here the security situation has
04:38:47.320
changed we need a nuke we're imminently in danger of being overthrown that that's the and that's really
04:38:51.580
important i want to be clear i've been very good for the last hour and 45 minutes you guys are doing a
04:38:54.960
great job by the way i just i agree with you nick and the cia came out months after i said this and said
04:39:00.160
attacking them may accelerate them towards finishing their bomb with nuclear hedging so let me ask
04:39:06.200
dinesh d'souza that and we got to go these questions and comments i'm making you guys stay we have to do
04:39:09.920
it bunch of callers bunch of comments what about that issue that this accelerates them into that i think
04:39:16.880
that is common sense dinesh yeah but there's there is a little bit of unrealism to it and and some of
04:39:26.020
the times i think what happens is we get caught in this spider web of analytics this is iran's motive
04:39:31.460
they're hedging they're you know as if we're listening to some stock trade i got a hedge here
04:39:35.920
it's very simple if you had a guy that lives down the street whose official doctrine is death to
04:39:43.620
alex jones or death to nick fuentes and that guy in his basement is making a bomb that can take out
04:39:50.980
your home take you out take out your whole family you're not going to sit around and go well what's
04:39:56.900
the computation going on in their mind you're going to say that guess what if that guy has the intention
04:40:02.540
which is to say the motive and he has the ability to deliver this bomb in a catastrophic way
04:40:08.340
then guess what if i've got some friend in the neighborhood let's call it israel and they go listen
04:40:13.540
we're happy to go do the job for you we will go clobber that guy but guess what there's one part
04:40:19.140
of the room we can't get to if you will lend us a plane for one night we will bomb that part of that
04:40:24.840
of the house and that will be the end of that guy no more debt to america you'll be able to sleep
04:40:29.780
safely at night you and your family who wouldn't take that deal who would sit around going well we
04:40:35.080
have a relationship based on mutual trust they keep saying debt to america but we don't really
04:40:39.640
believe them because lots of other people say similar things and so therefore we're gonna do an
04:40:45.020
obama type deal in which by and large we kind of look the other way we don't even have good ways
04:40:51.480
to fully monitor what they're doing nick conceded they have the motive to do it the interest in doing
04:40:57.160
it and they can do it pretty much whenever they want and you're saying we should rest at ease when
04:41:01.820
we have people like that with essentially dangerous weapons okay i want to go to comments and callers now
04:41:10.320
people can look at it from an israeli perspective america perspective iranian perspective but we've
04:41:16.720
seen this whole chain and we've seen wesley clark you know 15 20 years ago saying he was in the
04:41:23.620
pentagon meeting seven countries of regime change and we and we saw all that that's why americans
04:41:29.200
are against this it's not because we support the mullahs it's because you know we see this larger issue
04:41:35.320
and that's my personal view i don't like the mullahs but at the same time i don't want to be
04:41:39.700
lied into a quagmire much worse than vietnam 93 million people potentially hidden nuclear weapons
04:41:45.820
and russia and china have said no more dominoes are going to fall this is part of a proxy war
04:41:50.460
in world war iii that's really already begun between the west and china and russia we all know that so
04:41:56.600
both of you just one minute on one minute on where the world is has world war iii already begun
04:42:02.300
and you guys agree with me that this is a proxy war or or a hybrid war uh battleground between
04:42:10.880
what's left of the west and the emerging a new multi-polar world i would just sum it up in a
04:42:18.800
single sentence or two and that is basically i trust trump in the same way that i trusted reagan
04:42:25.360
i don't think i think trump himself just like the rest of us was there for iraq he learned the
04:42:31.080
lessons of iraq the same as the rest of us the difference is this is a guy who knows how to
04:42:35.920
operate on the global chessboard he's already proven it in his first term he didn't drag us
04:42:40.980
into any wars he um he has been a no war president uh and i think he's a no war president now i think
04:42:49.880
he's trying to settle the issue in in uh the middle east the same way as he's trying to settle the issue
04:42:55.400
in ukraine it this is not the same between the two parties kamala harris would never have ordered
04:43:01.280
this strike on iran why because she has too many jihadis in her own party uh this is the party of
04:43:07.880
ilhan omar it's the party and and i'm afraid it's a party this is why i suggested that nick might be a
04:43:13.420
democrat because a lot of the things that he said tonight are pretty much an echo of ilhan omar we can
04:43:19.200
trust iran they don't have any evil intentions they're a rational power they don't have any ill will
04:43:24.060
israel's the real problem well i mean that's ilhan omar okay final comeback nick and we gotta take a
04:43:29.220
few questions because everybody's got to go here soon it's amazing live debate right now uh tuesday
04:43:33.660
july 1st interview we're at 8 48 central here appreciate both these guys being with us uh nick
04:43:39.720
final comeback to that yeah i mean the the democrat thing is just so crazy i just don't even know how to
04:43:46.840
respond to that i mean i guess the basis of the debate is i'm trying to talk about the present
04:43:52.080
timeline i'm talking about the details of iran's program cause and effect you know the mindset of
04:43:58.040
these countries how they calibrate how they calculate their strategies and then we get these kind of like
04:44:03.360
fables you know from the cave paintings of lasco the barbary pirates you know world ronald reagan and
04:44:10.200
it's it's just like what am i watching here i feel like we're just in two different universes and
04:44:14.300
you know look i was sympathetic to a lot of those arguments at one time i read your books
04:44:18.340
and i watched your speeches when i was in high school and i was big into fox news and all that
04:44:23.480
stuff but i just feel like it's a completely different reality and i would say that the the
04:44:27.600
big picture which we can all see is that the israelis once again are trying to drive us into another one
04:44:33.820
of their wars with some dimension of u.s involvement that is really not in our interest i don't trust
04:44:39.180
trump at all clearly he has no control over netanyahu cannot restrain israel at all and the tail is
04:44:45.280
wagging the dog he pulls his chair out for him and trump said repeatedly we want to make a deal
04:44:50.480
we want to make a deal and israel said no we accept no deal we don't care about the terms if it's good
04:44:56.780
if it's bad we're bombing iran anyway and the second the time ran out on trump's deadline they were
04:45:02.180
scheduling a sixth round of talks for that friday and then that sunday israel let loose and they bombed
04:45:08.000
iran and they started this war when they knew they couldn't win they started getting pummeled and they
04:45:12.920
knew that would force the united states to intervene in a way that wasn't effective and look now we're
04:45:17.740
in it now we're trapped in this problem you're going to see it rear its head again in a few months
04:45:22.380
and there'll be more u.s involvement we spent 30 billion dollars on this conflict so far there's
04:45:27.180
nothing america first about it i don't trust iran i don't like iran i don't like our adversaries
04:45:31.820
i just want america's interest to be put very briefly this is a swear to god the last question
04:45:36.880
we have these callers and a few quick questions if trump is trying to stop war and we hope that's
04:45:45.140
the case and then israel wants to go forward then is there any way out of a larger conflict you're
04:45:52.960
saying it's going to continue on then why is trump saying today at alligator alcatraz that he's got a
04:46:00.160
deal monday if either one of you heard what that is did that show you got a lot of contacts the
04:46:03.960
well no i mean all that i know is what's in the public record that trump is trying to get israel
04:46:10.240
not simply to conclude the war in iran but also to declare a ceasefire in gaza now israel said right
04:46:19.800
after october 7th we are not doing this until we get the hostages back and until we have defeated
04:46:26.320
hamas so there is unanimity in israel by that i mean the lakud the labor party across the spectrum
04:46:32.540
the israelis believe you attacked us we have a job to do but trump is telling them no i'm going
04:46:38.380
to stop you along the way so right away i think here you see who's calling the shots it's not net
04:46:43.680
and yahoo it's trump in fact the very idea that a small country like israel uh which is like i say what
04:46:50.740
10 or 12 million people we are 350 million we're bigger we're stronger we're richer if somehow the
04:46:56.480
jews control us then truly they are the master race all right nick you got to respond to that and
04:47:02.420
then and then i have i keep saying last question but you know pulling back from all of this i literally
04:47:09.760
wanted to just have a pro-israel question a pro-us question pro-iran whatever i literally cannot find
04:47:18.560
on the x account it really shows a even pro-war view because i want to show both sides and it's the
04:47:26.520
same thing all the callers that i could see are anti-israel so that's a larger question the polls show it
04:47:33.220
good sign boys the whole world the democrats are trying to say who i can't stand by the way and they love
04:47:38.860
islam which is even crazier i gotta be mad at israel but also not support radical islam takeover
04:47:43.400
or orthodox islam takeover so i i think it's fair to say maybe you both disagree with me or
04:47:48.380
maybe dinesh jasuzza does there is definitely an a hyper accelerated anti-israel movement and does
04:47:58.300
israel realize that even michael savage is on my show friday and he said look i'm pro-israel but i
04:48:02.900
want you to go because he's turning the world against israel and now they expel the few gossians that
04:48:08.520
are left alive and the image of them being marched off in the desert you know to libya or wherever
04:48:13.380
i mean uh here's a simple question do you agree dinesh jasuzza in the nick that israel is at its
04:48:22.560
most unpopular point since it was formed in 1947 i would say to me it um i i it doesn't even matter
04:48:32.120
why because i'm not israel first i mean i'm america first and so israel's popularity or unpopularity is
04:48:38.820
not at the forefront of my concern now i will say that my experience is that in the republican party
04:48:46.980
and i'm talking about the mainstream of the republican party israel is very popular israel is
04:48:51.940
not in fact it's not that the republican party is turned against israel and this is why you're right
04:48:57.020
that's the only place it is popular i know i said that well i mean it's popular among it's popular by
04:49:01.920
and large i think among the majority of practicing christians in this country why maybe part of it is
04:49:07.060
for biblical reasons maybe it's partly because we have a judeo-christian heritage we have a western
04:49:12.820
civilization based on athens and jerusalem and athens of course refers to classical reason but
04:49:18.900
what is jerusalem if not the land and the promises of the bible so for a lot of christians that is
04:49:24.000
important so yes i agree the democrats don't like israel i agree that there are powerful forces around
04:49:29.980
the world they don't like israel but look one reason for this is because the muslims outnumber the
04:49:35.520
jews like a hundred to one what are they are like two and a half billion muslims and what 13 or 14 or
04:49:42.300
maybe 20 million jews in the world so is it any surprise that this larger force of muslims has far
04:49:48.780
more influence worldwide with the un with a lot of other countries asian countries and so on they just
04:49:55.060
outnumber the jews and so that's one of the reasons why israel is so quote unpopular nick comment to
04:50:02.000
that yeah i mean i would say israel is unpopular because they killed a hundred thousand people in
04:50:07.520
gaza there you go like 90 percent of the buildings 90 percent of the roads the hospitals they kill
04:50:12.500
people that are trying to get aid supplies they kill innocent civilians they rape prisoners and then
04:50:18.840
when the soldiers that rape the prisoners this happened last year get arrested all the government
04:50:24.280
ministers defend the soldiers and a riot forms outside the prison to defend them i think that's why
04:50:28.940
people hate israel right now and i would say as far as christians are concerned why why do we like
04:50:33.680
israel you have government ministers in israel that say spitting on christians is an ancient jewish
04:50:40.140
tradition and it's fine you have zionist rabbis like the kooks who say that christians should be killed
04:50:46.540
they say atheism is preferable to christianity because christianity's idolatry maimonides who your buddy
04:50:52.600
josh hammer josh hammer who by the way called all europeans inherently anti-semitic in our dna
04:50:58.460
he said that maimonides is the the rambam he's our thomas aquinas maimonides said to pray for the
04:51:04.780
death of christians every single day i don't know why christians love israel i don't know why people
04:51:08.860
think that they're our friend i regard jews and muslims as basically the same insofar as neither of
04:51:14.760
them are friends of christians neither of them are friends of the west i think they both have their own
04:51:18.440
motives they both have terrorist groups they both oppose christianity and see us as idolaters that's the
04:51:23.940
muslim beef with christians that's the jewish beef with christians our worship of the person of jesus
04:51:29.000
christ and so i think that um you know israel's become very unpopular contrary to what you know
04:51:34.160
you and your family say dinesh you say well anti-semitism is because we like hate god's promise
04:51:39.860
to israel no we don't like the fruits from the poisonous tree we don't like what israel has wrought in
04:51:45.600
the middle east and the world uh in the past couple years in the past 70 years and it's just i mean
04:51:50.640
it's not even a question they influence us the apac money the adelsons habad lubovitch all over the
04:51:56.140
white house brought in by the son-in-law jared kushner in the first term jared kushner was put
04:52:01.120
in charge of negotiations of the border over the abraham accords over so many things he's a donor to
04:52:06.800
the lubovitchers and they ran that white house they were all over the place this could go all night
04:52:11.480
real fast and actually i swear to god we're gonna stop and go to calls but just real
04:52:14.700
words just on this issue of just on this issue of influence the here's the thing i think that
04:52:21.620
you know it's miriam adelson uh gave a hundred million dollars to trump for the 24 campaign a
04:52:29.500
great deal of money however trump is worth something somewhere between four and eight billion dollars
04:52:36.020
so what that means is that for trump this kind of money is trivial it's kind of like saying i'm a
04:52:43.660
multi-millionaire and someone's giving me a hundred bucks and then along comes nick fuentes or that guy
04:52:47.860
owns you we gave you a hundred bucks tinesh and people actually say this my son-in-law is a
04:52:51.620
congressman in dallas people say well apac gave him ten thousand dollars well brandon gill spent well
04:52:58.360
over a million dollars in his campaign you think he's going to sort of change his position on israel
04:53:03.020
because someone gave him 10 grand i mean this is madness so similarly i think there's a lack of
04:53:08.480
perspective here about apac you think apac is more influential than the pharmaceutical companies
04:53:12.980
you think apac is more influential than the french company airbus which is powerful lobbyist
04:53:18.780
influences and getting contracts all over the world by the way not just in america so there are
04:53:23.800
lots of interests a lot of our own tech companies are far more loyal to globalist interests than they
04:53:30.260
are to the united states they may be headquartered in silicon valley but they don't care about america
04:53:35.440
they care less about america probably than israel does so the point is we can't be naive about all
04:53:41.180
this and we've got to realize that trump is big enough he's enough of a mammoth figure that for
04:53:46.840
these relatively trivial sums by a billionaire standards he can't be bought okay you both have
04:53:53.960
very gracious let's do a few calls and a few comments off x but i'm bro that is one of the
04:53:59.300
most disingenuine arguments ever dude it doesn't matter oh you're a billionaire you got 100 million
04:54:04.880
dollars not that much money the 100 million dollars isn't to influence him with all of his policy
04:54:10.120
is to influence his foreign policy that's what this guy isn't getting these people that donate
04:54:15.880
are single issue fucking donors they're not coming in saying oh i'm giving you 100 million
04:54:20.920
dollars so you can like make uh gay marriage illegal no they're giving 100 million dollars to say i need
04:54:26.160
you to preserve israel something that we've been doing a minute so bro completely deflected and
04:54:32.760
committee which was a foreign entity it was foreign money pouring into the united states
04:54:39.920
jfk said you got to register under farah because it's foreign money lobbying for a foreign country
04:54:44.960
and all they did was basically a trick to reorganize how that money is spent they changed how the money is
04:54:51.640
spent and said well we'll take apac and we'll make that a u.s based chapter and then they can spend the
04:54:56.440
money in the united states so it is a foreign lobby and this is basically what about ism to say
04:55:01.200
well what about this lobby what about that lobby what about you know they're not the only one
04:55:04.940
they are foreign lobby and even though they give small sums to some congressmen they spend big sums
04:55:10.740
oh let me make this very fuck clear some of you bitch-ass niggas in the fucking chat
04:55:17.160
i mute the shit when i want to fucking mute it if you guys want to just watch nick the whole time
04:55:21.760
go on x and watch yourself this is my fucking stream so if i want to go ahead and pause and make a
04:55:26.720
comment i'll fucking do that and any you bitch-ass niggas that got a problem get the fuck out my chat
04:55:30.280
you're on my fucking channel watching my shit if i want to pause it to give commentary i fucking will
04:55:35.700
all right some of you bitch-ass niggas in the fucking youtube chat get the fuck up out of here bro
04:55:40.340
get the fuck up out of here with that shit bro get the fuck up out of here turn on x and watch it
04:55:47.840
yourself then shut the fuck up bitch-ass niggas all you guys are saying bro unmute you niggas are
04:55:53.300
getting put in timeout the fuck up out of here bro this is my shit who the fuck do you think you are
04:55:57.740
stupid fucks if i want to give commentary i'm going to give commentary turn on x and watch it
04:56:03.460
on your own shit then shut the fuck up this is my stream bitch the primary congressman that
04:56:08.140
opposed fucking retards this to a number of progressive democrats last year they spent
04:56:12.120
millions of behind primary candidates against democrats that didn't vote for foreign aid to
04:56:17.620
israel so their influence is felt everywhere and it's always this little like obfuscation game
04:56:22.000
that's played with them if you're america first you can't be in favor of foreign lobbying all right let's move to the next
04:56:27.160
well let's yeah let's push it some more because the one name that you gave us was miriam adelson now
04:56:32.460
miriam adelson is married to sheldon adelson and sheldon adelson made about 20 billion dollars because
04:56:38.660
he's a casino mogul in las vegas he owns the venetian hotel for example so here's a guy who's
04:56:45.200
an american citizen he's a jew but we're not talking about the israeli government so are you saying that
04:56:51.080
you want a law that says that sheldon adelson an american citizen can't spend money on lobbying
04:56:58.940
and and and and how would you draw tell us what this law which are you going to single out a pack
04:57:04.800
or are you going to say that basically no foreign interests can lobby in the united states which by
04:57:10.700
the way i'm in favor of i'm not i'm not against it i'm simply against what it appears to me to be
04:57:15.680
a kind of conflation between the foreign interests of a foreign state israel and american jews who are
04:57:23.880
no different than irishmen who by the way are very involved in ireland's politics you have all kinds of
04:57:29.660
societies german societies english societies that promote friendly relations with england as i mentioned
04:57:35.780
there are corporate interests abroad there's a swiss billionaire hans weiss jordan i think is the guy's
04:57:41.640
name is he plows tons of money into the democrats george soros is a massive influence a lot of money
04:57:49.180
that's made abroad now being deployed within american politics so yeah if you want to have some
04:57:54.240
restrictions on foreign money i say more power to it but weirdly the you seem to be wanting to restrict
04:58:00.580
the one money that's actually coming to benefit maga against these left-wing democrats as you say
04:58:06.420
and you've not said one word about foreign money that's going to these left-wing democrats in the first
04:58:11.080
place i am against all foreign lobbying i am against all foreign money and the problem with
04:58:17.100
this is you talk about sheldon adelson you say well he's an american citizen so what would you what would
04:58:22.120
you do about him well let me ask you about sheldon adelson yes american citizen born and raised in
04:58:26.960
northeast sheldon adelson when he died his body was flown to israel where he was buried and the body was
04:58:34.500
greeted on the tarmac by benjamin netanyahu sheldon adelson said he wished he served in the idf and not the
04:58:40.520
u.s military he said my heart is in israel he lobbied the trump administration to pardon jonathan
04:58:46.700
pollard who is an israeli spy stealing our secrets and giving them to israel this was something he
04:58:53.080
lobbied for for 10 years like this guy clearly was a foreign agent do you see any sort of problem with
04:58:59.300
that i mean don't you think that his citizenship is sort of a technicality or do you take uh any issue
04:59:04.040
at all with his i mean he's clear foreign allegiance to the state of israel look all i'm saying is that
04:59:10.220
there are numerous examples of americans homegrown who have for some reason or another fallen in love
04:59:18.760
with some foreign country i mean i'll give some examples there were countless americans who went
04:59:23.360
about adelson what do you have a problem with that yes of course i do of course i do but i'm just
04:59:28.680
saying that there's nothing uniquely israeli about it think of all the sandinistas think of all the
04:59:33.800
americans who went down there think of the number of americans who went and fought in the spanish civil
04:59:38.400
war they were obviously putting other countries first there were many americans look at the
04:59:43.340
rosenbergs they spied against the united states for the soviet union klaus fuchs so what i'm getting
04:59:49.480
at is there is an american tradition of americans who for whatever reason sometimes ethnicity
04:59:54.820
sometimes ideology they start putting another country first are you asking me if that's wrong
05:00:00.020
yes it is and and i think when they break the law they should be punished as the rosenbergs of course
05:00:05.880
were put to death klaus fuchs was arrested so we have laws and we should enforce them a lot of times
05:00:11.300
a lot of this bad stuff goes on because people in this country our own people allow it to happen
05:00:17.800
how did we get 10 million illegals because the biden harris people went to the border basically and said
05:00:23.380
wink wink wink come on over so do i like that biden said when i win when biden said i win immediately
05:00:30.760
he searched the border so i think that's not open for debate you guys are gracious let's hit a few
05:00:34.720
phone calls and we'll end this debate this is amazing thank you to the next decision thank you
05:00:38.320
nick pointez we've got loaded phone lines hundreds of questions let's just get to a few of these real
05:00:43.180
fast yeah he definitely avoided that whole sheldon shit man that's crazy um but yeah let me make that
05:00:49.620
very clear guys like one thing like i'm gonna put a rule right now if i'm fucking stopping a video to
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comment and one of you bitch ass niggas ever says some stupid shit about unpause and so i can whatever
05:01:01.060
you're instantly getting banned instantly getting banned and your shit is getting hidden i'm giving
05:01:05.980
you guys that warning right now this is my channel i do the content the way that i do i'm not gonna have
05:01:11.860
none of you bitch ass niggas come in here and try to tell me what the fuck to do especially in
05:01:14.800
youtube chat fuck you guys even harder okay oss guys could go ahead and give their take on shit
05:01:20.380
but you bitch ass niggas in the youtube chat fuck you guys don't want to sit there and say that shit
05:01:25.060
bro unmute you will instantly get banned on my shit bro instantly it's called political cultural
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commentary aka my fucking opinion if you don't like it watch it on x it's there right now watch it
05:01:38.300
on x uninterrupted i will pause it as much as i want okay so all you guys right now show yourself
05:01:44.240
so i can ban you bitch ass niggas show yourselves right now because i don't even want y'all in the
05:01:48.600
fucking chat and your niggas are getting banned because this is my shit that's one thing i will
05:01:52.900
do i'm off for free speech or whatever but you guys come in like no bro unpause it because i'm just
05:01:57.040
gonna go ahead and bitch about that fuck you this is my shit i do my content the way that i like like
05:02:01.800
fuck out of here man what the fuck disrespectful dickheads come in here you can literally turn this
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up on your ex right now and watch uninterrupted you're on my channel who the fuck are you to tell
05:02:11.700
me how to run my shit the fuck banned get the fuck up out of here man turn it up on your ex then
05:02:17.080
bitch holy shit as a pawn now what's the solution when trump first said it i couldn't even believe it
05:02:24.180
and it's taken me some weeks so yeah months to get all you idiots say unpause right now so i can find
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you kick you out the fucking chat bro don't want none of you toxic motherfuckers in my shit at all
05:02:32.940
at all and you niggas aren't on oss fuck out of here bro ban immediately so go ahead just put
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oh unpause so i can find you and just ban your shit look at even lebanon lebanon beirut used to
05:02:43.260
be a tourist destination why because people loved it it was beautiful great food lots of interesting
05:02:48.560
things to see then it became a war zone it went kaput trump is basically saying if we can take some of
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these places give these people an incentive to live a different kind of life maybe the jihadism will
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be melted over time and what we will have is prosperity and trade and tourism
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all right not much time left here um nick you want to respond to that or the next caller
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in principle i agree in principle and you and i alex have talked about this in principle i believe that
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the alternative to war is prosperity and i think that we should achieve that through diplomacy but i
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think that when you start doing regime change in syria libya uh and then in iran and these other
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countries it leads to these long-term problems where it becomes basically impossible um so that
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that's why i'm a little bit more reserved when it comes to any kind of u.s intervention especially
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regime change because i think that you know that's what steve whitkoff on some level to the extent that
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we can trust him when he says make a deal with iran it's because he has business interests in
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qatar and saudi arabia he doesn't want missiles flying over the person let me ask you both that
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question we'll take a few more calls it in this this is amazing i wish we could all night
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i'm going to respect you guys let you go soon in like 10 minutes what about russia what about china
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what about north korea saying we're we're thinking about giving nukes to iran pakistan talking about
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it dinesh and then and then and then nick you haven't talked as much in the last 10 minutes well
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let's do that nick first nick what about the escalation ladder here of these major powers that
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see at the last time i'm out of the fall my bigger concern is that people and yo do me a favor
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guys just hide them from the channel forever all the guys that are saying unpause uh
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hiding from the channel forever you niggas are never in the chat ever again nobody's ever going
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to see your shit so good job you don't come on my channel and tell me what to do i'm not fucking
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neon bro like i'm not going to sit here and be like oh oh no no i run my shit the way that i want
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if i want to pause i'm going to fucking pause it that's one thing we're not going to do on here
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one thing we're not going to do i'm all for the free speech and everything else like that but you guys
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are not going to tell me how to run my shit especially when i didn't run a poll and ask you for your
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fucking opinion if i want to stop and give commentary which is what this channel is
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especially when you have the ability to turn it on on your own on your ex literally open up x
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going alex jones it's right here for you a real alex jones go check it out but yeah i don't even want
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you guys in here the fuck i'm out of here bro what the fuck well you're a wimp like like rabbi
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schmoley you're just a wimp so yeah mods get him out of here get him out of here bro all these
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niggas saying any of this shit get him the fuck up out of here bro no i'm not a wimp i'm a realist
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what about russia what about china what about north korea your response to the next decision
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well there is another frame to look at the bombing of iran and and let's just analyze it from a bit
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of a different perspective it was a major blow to russia no question about it i'll tell you why
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russia is attempting to make this comeback they're trying to become a global or regional at least
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power again and they've done that by selling their weapons in syria building bases in syria giving
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their weapons to iran other countries and iran had this idea that russia was their strategic
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partner and they were going to get missile defense systems and fighter jets from russia when israel
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attacked iran those systems were completely null and void i mean they were totally ineffective
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and russia would not intervene on their side russia basically abandoned them this is a major blow to
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russia's credibility and to any potential client state they're all going to look at iran and say well
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what about iran how did that go for the iranians you know you were supposed to be their patron
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and now israel wiped the floor with them so although i think there's more acute ramifications in the
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middle east without a question this is i mean let's just be honest russia's point that it's the u.s is the
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dog and israel's the tail but i don't think that's why the united states did it i think that that was a
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byproduct and i think that again that's that's what we can say in this narrow timeline right now i think
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that we're trapped in regime change in iran i think that's going to be extremely negative in the long
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term but one of the byproducts because they're you know like we invaded iraq that is what forced
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iran to stop weaponizing we invaded iraq syria and libya abandoned their wmd programs like sometimes it
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has byproducts that you can say are positive but you have to take it all together so i think that's
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that's a good byproduct well i mean i think i think it's it's kind of um it diminishes trump not to
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recognize that he's thought of this right i mean if china is more reluctant to invade taiwan
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if russia is more reluctant to take on a second conflict above and beyond ukraine i even saw putin
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say something very interesting where he goes not only do i have my hands full in ukraine but he goes
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there are two million russian jews living in israel and he says i got to take that into account so this
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was an angle i hadn't really thought of which is the number of russians who emigrated to israel and
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apparently putin has some thought for those guys so i'm saying that i think nick thinks well we did
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it because we're pawns of israel and we got some good benefits out of it i'm pretty sure that trump
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had those benefits also firmly in mind when he did what he did let's show the world that we are not this
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is not the biden harris regime anymore we're not the world's patsies we're not going to be sending
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pallets of cash to you if you misbehave we're going to clobber you the way reagan did the way
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thomas jefferson did and that is america first all right sailor in florida earlier with indesha
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susan nick fointester this historic debate go ahead sailor in florida go ahead hello um so i have a
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question for mr uh dinesh d'souza so you say that uh and you didn't explain why israel has the right
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to that land you said there's many reasons a country might but you didn't get into that
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but my question for you and you also say judeo-christian values well jesus says you have
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heard it said therefore i say and jesus said i'm gonna have this temple that you're seeing here
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is gonna be destroyed all right i want to listen this woman talk all right burrow says i agree big
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dog shit on those dumb fucks rather spend money on some dumb snow bunny i don't know if i try to tell
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you how to run your show go straight kick an oss yeah bro especially youtube chat niggas
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fuck you guys like you guys are in here trying to yo unpause all right bro get the fuck out my
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shit bro i'm off for free speech but you're not gonna tell me how to run my show absolutely not
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you're not gonna do that my youtube section of the oss says don't give these niggas no more
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free attention yeah i just get rid of them i don't give fuck um these motherfuckers on youtube do the
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most and pay the least that's what i'm saying bro at least on rumble and kick i don't give a shit
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whatever but you guys are watching on youtube and you guys are over here trying to tell me what
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to do bro fuck that um we don't like those youtube freeloaders oh it says cookie y'all niggas man
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the youtube dudes ain't shit w show checking in appreciate you when was the last time airbus
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got somebody debanked dude's been being disingenuous martin i texted fit
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and he told me that you told him that i wasn't allowed to join oss what
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could you blink twice or do a backflip what what jr that's not true at all bro
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we have a judeo-christian heritage at gg2025 yeah shit's crazy bro um let's see here
05:10:10.240
yeah uh fitness by ah says it's used for decent deterrence idiot china and uh russia both have
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bombs and we still have don't evade them yep absolutely the next analogies leave out the
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context of the good guys inhabiting and uh inhabiting someone else's home yep uh mr suza
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sounds like a neocomber is claiming to be maga nick a democrat while using machiavellian tactics bro
05:10:30.800
it's crazy you're calling him a democrat like bro holy shit uh cash says youtube broke he's acting
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like in title three or fours yeah bro 80 percent of these niggas aren't even in oss trying to tell me
05:10:38.960
what to do what the fuck uh what are your thoughts on these female teachers fucking their underage
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students bro i'm telling you man it only works for women guys not men they're catching a whole bunch
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of these young these women fucking these kids it's absolutely crazy absolutely nuts
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kessler with the emo says uh youtube be like yeah i know bro it's crazy bro it's crazy
05:11:00.880
so yeah holy shit man that's funny yeah no i appreciate you guys in oss you guys are roasting
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these niggas on youtube bro i appreciate that because bro they're they're like wildly disrespectful
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wildly disrespectful i'm on this fucking platform not getting paid to be on here and these niggas
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want to try to tell me how to do my shit bro what what
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the jews after being scattered to the ends of the earth will return to their homeland now if you read
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this in the bible a hundred years ago or two hundred years ago it would have seemed like the most
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preposterous implausible see and then this bitch ass dude says yeah bro i'm not gonna give you my money
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good just ban me you got it buddy you got it what's this bitch ass nigga's name uh hitting gates
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good gone forever nigga banished to the shadow realm half of you guys don't fuck with it anyway you guys
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don't fuck with me anyway so it doesn't matter half of you guys don't even fuck with me anyway so fuck
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y'all niggas man honestly ridiculous thing to say because no other group has ever done this no other
05:12:16.420
you gotta trim out the fat man gotta trim out the fucking pussies get the fuck up out here
05:12:20.300
group has been scattered in this way and come back to the same land and speaking the same language
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and following the same rights and customs and having maintained their tribal identity and
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worshiping the same god but the jews have the bible predicted it and it's come true and you have to
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attach some theological signal hit that loser with the spirit bomb bro
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significance to that now with regard to what you were saying about the jews being there i'm writing a
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book currently on biblical archaeology and this is the archaeology that began in the late 19th century
05:12:55.940
it's continued through the 20th century but massive archaeological discoveries in the last 20 years
05:13:01.420
and it turns out that there's archaeological evidence now for abraham there's archaeological evidence for king
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david's palace king david by the way lived 1000 years before christ there's archaeological evidence the
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seals of isaiah and jeremiah the prophets have been found so these are not mythical figures these are
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historical figures and what does this prove that the jews were there they were there in 2000 bc
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4000 years ago so whose land is it if not theirs okay so let me just say this the romans wrote about the
05:13:35.240
jews there in the histories and so did the babylonians the egyptians so i don't the greeks i don't think
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it's debatable that that went on solomon king david all that nick nick comment to that uh yeah i don't
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disagree with dinesh about the archaeological record and i i believe i'm i'm a catholic so i believe that
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king david and king solomon are all real and they live there uh but i i don't take it as a good omen when
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you say there's like a theological significance to the jews retaining their religion uh ostensibly and then
05:14:04.160
coming back to the holy land i see it as actually a very dark omen because of course you know we talk
05:14:08.820
about iran's eschatological views about the the 12th imam and the makdi and all this we don't talk
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about the jews which is in order for them to practice their religion they need to reestablish
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temple worship in order to have temple worship they need another temple and this is not exactly a fringe
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idea in israel they talk about sacrificing these uh red heifers these perfect red heifers and then
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ultimately one of the goals of the religious zionists is to is to take out the mosque the
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alaksa mosque and rebuild the third temple and this is sort of terrifying because it undoes what
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what the caller said it undoes what christ did and we talked about this i told you guys that they got
05:14:46.440
the five heifers um they bought them from texas for like half a million dollars man so they're absolutely
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looking to destroy the mosque and rebuild that temple and which was to destroy the temple because
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there's a new sacrifice which is him the lamb of god there's a new temple there's a new church new
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priests there's a new law uh and then they were sent out now that they've returned it's almost like
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it's working in reverse they've returned to the land and then you know it might point towards maybe
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they're going to rebuild the temple and who will inhabit the temple the jews say that our religion is
05:15:16.900
dead because christ is dead they say they say their religion is alive and their messiah is yet to come
05:15:22.040
who will inhabit the third temple and sit in the the holy of holies on the site uh it sounds like
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the antichrist so you know and this is just sort of my speculation on this but i mean i i sort of
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agree in a sense that you can't say it doesn't have theological significance but i sort of tremble
05:15:38.860
and yeah they bought a bunch of heifers out in texas guys a couple years ago um because that's the
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prophecy these five red heifers that don't have a single white hair they found them in texas and bought
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them fear uh what that represents i i don't see it as a good thing okay comment on that i'm gonna go
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to jeremy and daniel we're gonna shut this debate down because i want to respect both you i'd go for
05:15:57.760
10 hours but you guys have busy schedules here we're live no they're gonna destroy the mosque guys
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they're gonna destroy the mosque to build the uh the temple at 9 16 central time uh dinesh go ahead
05:16:09.080
well i don't want to go too far down this road but the bible is a it is a document that not only
05:16:17.800
celebrates things but it's prophetic and by that i mean it it anticipates events and this doesn't
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mean that these events are are by themselves good or bad or the people who involved are good or bad
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uh it just means that this is what's going to happen and so that when the bible says the jews
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will come back this is not a moral judgment it is a prediction and all i'm saying is it has come
05:16:42.100
true the interesting thing to me about the bible is even some of the figures of the old testament
05:16:47.240
are morally not only ambiguous but are just downright abominable starting with david by the
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way because this is not just about him taking up with batsheba but having batsheba's husband
05:16:59.500
deliberately sent to the front where david knew he would be killed so david is not only an adulterer
05:17:04.740
he's a murderer but nevertheless he is also a chosen instrument of god and so you have this very
05:17:10.540
interesting duality uh in understanding the bible where on the one hand you have figures who are
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dubious in their own right and we would not admire them in any way and as nick says they're a little
05:17:21.520
scary but they are nevertheless instruments of god nick yeah i agree with that actually all right
05:17:29.940
amazing i can go for 10 hours two more callers that's where i'll let you everybody go but this is
05:17:33.160
amazing we gotta do this again i'll do more debates by the way just pre-question both of you
05:17:36.960
because i forget like three weeks ago i heard nick says hey will you let me or you would you do a
05:17:42.540
debate with this how did this debate happen how did it start well as far as i know what it is is that
05:17:49.880
i saw on social media it's probably some of nick's super fans and they were kept saying these people in
05:17:56.080
con inc are all wimps they're scared to debate nick and they won't debate him and stuff and i just
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replied to a couple of those guys and go well i'm i'm not scared to debate him i'd be happy to do it
05:18:06.000
and then i just left the bat and somehow kind of the snowball gathered more snow and and to be honest
05:18:12.840
you know i gotta say i mean nick you know i have seen some of your funny routines on social media and i
05:18:17.760
expected a very different kind of debate i thought you'd be basically talking about how you know indian
05:18:23.000
people smell bad and things like this i had no idea where this was really gonna go uh i want to
05:18:28.680
commend you for keeping this very uh professional focusing really on the topic that we agreed to
05:18:34.820
uh i want i also want to commend you i mean i don't think i've met too many 26 year olds who could speak
05:18:40.440
with the confidence and and kind of background knowledge that you have so it's been a pleasure
05:18:45.420
for me to engage with you in this debate um and and i'm very glad i'm i'm here and i think that's
05:18:50.480
an illustration for you nick of populist common sense conservatives we will have debates
05:18:55.300
because we're not i'm not endorsing everything that i says everything uh nick says but this is
05:19:00.020
what freedom is about is a real this is what colleges used to be nick pointes go ahead well i
05:19:06.540
really appreciate you saying that and yeah it started out a little contentious you know we said
05:19:10.740
some things on twitter uh but i appreciate you saying that and um you know i've been watching you
05:19:15.800
for a long time i mean i i am younger guys so i grew up with your movies and your books i read your
05:19:21.040
books i watch you on fox news and i know we disagree but i do think you're a brilliant guy
05:19:25.560
i always have i think you're good at arguing and i've argued this subject with a lot of people
05:19:29.640
and i think you're a pretty skilled debater yourself so um so i appreciate it too you know
05:19:34.580
you could have a lot of ways you could have hit me and called me an anti-semite and you know really
05:19:38.640
railed on me so i also appreciate that you know we kept it cordial and we you know there's little
05:19:43.140
flare and things but we kept it about the issue and i had a great time too i think the audience
05:19:47.240
learned a lot good two more callers we're gonna let some of the charisma here's at 6 a.m
05:19:51.780
so have i but i'm having fun here but no it was uh it was good stuff man very professional i just
05:19:56.660
wish it was a bit more organized on alex uh both the national nick were very cordial george here on
05:20:01.820
the air go ahead a question alex should have done some prompts no you're on go ahead awesome go ahead
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okay so uh it's a real honor to be uh on with you guys uh nick as a young man you've been a huge
05:20:13.720
inspiration to me seriously you give me like people like me a voice and as you're a total
05:20:18.220
staple in the movement your work's been foundational for years i think you're amazing and alex man
05:20:22.820
people call you crazy uh you've been on the you've been right more than wrong of course
05:20:27.600
and history just keeps on proving it it's grateful to be able to speak to all three of you guys but
05:20:31.960
well sure thanks for the comments about us but you want to talk about boots on the ground
05:20:35.480
which is a good question so go ahead well yeah absolutely real quickly i just wanted to and i
05:20:41.160
when i got on the line i i mentioned that but uh i i noticed when when dinesh called nick a democrat
05:20:47.740
i just wanted to point out something to nick i it's nick when you debate dinesh they start
05:20:52.340
stay sharp on history don't let him shift into abstract moralizing he's great at sounding
05:20:57.360
principles while dodging the core issues keep him pinned on specific dates policies outcomes and
05:21:02.860
don't let him reframe your position listen listen listen i took your call off the question you asked
05:21:07.400
i'm not having a philosophical about shifting debates what is your comment yeah well he wants
05:21:12.540
to give debate time uh in the future when debating dinesh to say do not redeem the car all right
05:21:18.980
enough enough i know it's all big joke it's all big you know whatever exactly what we're talking
05:21:23.620
about what the fuck bro hire him as a debate coach i don't think nick really needs them to be honest
05:21:28.900
yeah i don't think so either okay let's see another serious caller here daniel in alabama go ahead
05:21:33.620
daniel we have a real question what the fuck was that yeah thanks for taking my call alex um i love
05:21:38.620
how this debate came right on the heels of the tucker carlson uh ted cruz debate where cruz was
05:21:45.220
defending uh israel's war against iran so my question is for dinesh d'souza how much of this war attacking
05:21:52.460
iran defending israel is uh do you base it upon christian zionism and dispensationalism which is an
05:22:00.060
erroneous view of the scripture without getting into the issue of um sort of biblical uh exegesis
05:22:08.760
my views uh about politics are um entirely secular and by that i mean i see the world as a dangerous
05:22:18.240
place uh i think there are lots of bad guys in the world uh and it's naive to think that we can make
05:22:25.080
treaties with all of them what we have to do is realize that occasionally uh a good thrashing is
05:22:31.900
very necessary to put people in their place and keep them from their nefarious designs sometimes we
05:22:38.180
have to ally with smaller powers we're doing this all over the world by the way to check the growing
05:22:43.480
power of china the u.s will make alliances with india south korea japan this is the most normal thing
05:22:49.940
in the world uh to prevent china from getting out of control we did it with the soviet union
05:22:54.640
we allied with all kinds of countries including a lot of european countries by the way to block soviet
05:23:00.400
power and similarly in the middle east we've got a night watchman and it's basically israel
05:23:05.920
i don't think we should make a single decision regarding israel that's not in our interest
05:23:10.400
i don't think we should we do all the time though that's the problem dude it's crazy how these
05:23:14.700
maggot guys don't understand that bro we're gonna let you guys in this because it benefits us i want
05:23:19.980
nick to have one minute comment we'll take final caller from douglas in new york and then we're
05:23:24.280
going to shut this debate down it's been amazing i want to thank you both for being here we'll tell
05:23:27.300
me how to find you dnesasusa.com uh nick fointes on rumble nick j fointes uh and more uh nick uh comment
05:23:34.400
to that last statement um well yeah i mean i uh i'll sort of meet dinesh halfway here if he's willing
05:23:41.100
to say you know we don't we shouldn't do anything spend one cent do anything that's against our
05:23:45.420
interest and for israel you know i will say for anybody that misunderstands my position
05:23:49.480
i agree iran is an adversary i'm under no illusions about the fact that our state department our defense
05:23:56.160
department compiles this sort of information and look russia china iran they are our adversaries
05:24:01.200
they are forming up a block or a posse whatever you want to call it to challenge u.s power uh iran does
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not trust us they don't like us and they do back groups that i don't support their tactics i don't
05:24:12.260
support terrorism and hostage taking and these types of things you don't support a theocratic
05:24:16.480
dictatorship correct i don't support i'm not a muslim so i don't support that either um and i think
05:24:22.440
to be fair to dinesh i think it just comes down to i think we're we both love america we have
05:24:28.020
different experiences i think we both articulated we want america first and i think neither of us are
05:24:33.080
ideologically isolationist actually or necessarily even total pro-war people i've seen dinesh he was
05:24:38.880
against overthrowing gaddafi and assad it's just a question of in each case you have to evaluate the
05:24:44.000
facts and determine what the best course of action is and i think that's what the debate was so i um
05:24:48.860
you know i think there's a real debate i want to thank you both one last caller two plus hours two
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hours ten minutes this is a for people that never saw one on cnn or abc news this is a real debate you
05:24:59.000
just saw it uh last caller there's a hundred more but we just can't do it uh let's go to uh
05:25:04.600
douglas in new york uh you say you want to ask both people about gaza and fighting for freedom
05:25:12.480
uh go ahead with your question or comment douglas hi my name is uh douglas spader i'm a member of the
05:25:19.700
american communist party my question is mostly for nick you know nick attacks israel he's always
05:25:26.520
attacking israel but he never defends the people that are actually fighting them like hamas and
05:25:32.200
hezbollah hamas is ultimately waging a political struggle for national sovereignty just like our
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founding fathers did in 1776 if your friends and family were getting bombed by israel if you were
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living in a prison colony like gaza you'd fight back any real man would my question for nick is why do
05:25:54.260
you mock the people fighting israel like sinwar why won't you uphold 1776 and its revolutionary spirit
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cat boy i love it i love it how how we don't worship islam like even someone against israel in general i
05:26:09.960
would just characterize is not good enough for the communists who pick up any revolution to piggyback on
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like that's a whole other question about the the guy that won the mayoral democrat primary and just
05:26:21.940
like i mean mike as much as i don't like what israel does i look at the left and their wedding
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to islam sorry i'm i'm just i can't handle it nick go ahead and we'll get the next final comment on
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this well there's your proof that i'm not a communist okay there's your proof that i'm not
05:26:37.080
a democrat and and i would say you know with regard to these and you know we shouldn't be glib
05:26:41.840
because it's a serious topic i think that look terrorism and guerrilla tactics this is asymmetrical
05:26:47.940
warfare when you're fighting a much larger opponent you hit soft targets you engage in these types of
05:26:53.540
campaigns that affect they engage in terror that are meant to intimidate and scare the public into
05:26:58.880
withdrawing and you there's a logic to it it's not to say that it is an evil but you understand
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there's a logic to it and i would say that unlike communists i'm a catholic christians do not do suicide
05:27:10.320
bombing we just don't believe in that we don't do hostage taking we don't do that and i would by the
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way condemn the christian militias in lebanon who carried out the genocide in that war in 1982
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i just don't believe in those things christians endured persecution and people say well any group
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that's oppressed that's a man is going to fight like hamas that's not true christ bore the suffering
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on the cross and so did the apostles and so did the martyrs and you know that that's our religion so
05:27:36.740
i'm not a communist i don't believe in this like our theory you know rest in power and power to the
05:27:42.160
people i'm not a communist that's another question to close this out for both of you that i swear i'll
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stop yeah let me let me say just a word about this if i can alex and it's this uh so here's the thing
05:27:52.780
um nick has spoken a lot about how he's a christian and what they're doing and killing the innocent
05:27:57.120
people in in gaza's uh unacceptable so i don't know what the fuck that guy what his problem is like
05:28:03.080
what you wanted to fucking put on a hamas banner like what the fuck is wrong with this guy bro these
05:28:06.640
communists are retards dude holy shit man uh because it's in reference to what nick said earlier
05:28:11.620
about the fact that christians are somehow like equidistant from the jews and from the muslims and and
05:28:19.600
and i think that that is wrong on two separate counts the first one is that as christians our new
05:28:25.660
testament is not a break or a super session or an abrogation of the old testament it incorporates the
05:28:34.740
entire old testament we still love we don't do the jewish rites and customs but we do do the ten
05:28:40.040
commandments and that comes out christ said i have come to fulfill the law hey guys also i'm running a
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poll please vote if you're watching on youtube are you a member of the osss it looks like 75
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you guys are not members of the osss i'll talk about in a second not abolish it that's right that's
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right the other point about this is that jews are not into conversion but muslims are uh jews in
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other words by and large are happy to be jews they don't really want anyone else to be jews they
05:29:07.280
make it really difficult to become a jew but on the other hand muslims yeah they're not inclusive
05:29:12.260
at all guys smash that like button do me a favor smash the like button on youtube let's get to uh
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we're at 3300 likes let's get to 4 000 and just let's get to 4 000 we got a lot of you guys watching
05:29:21.100
let's keep cooking all right not only so eager to convert that they want to talk to you about it
05:29:25.240
but they're perfectly willing to hit you over the head islam means submission it means submission to
05:29:30.300
them there you go that's a key difference between judaism and islam which is that islam will force
05:29:36.640
you and kill you and will in fact kill muslims who defect from the faith look at solomon
05:29:41.560
rashdi for example who still has fatwas on his life the jews don't do that kind of thing
05:29:47.020
wow uh final comment and final comment from dinesh incredible debate want to thank you both nick
05:29:52.280
pointes well just i mean that's a whole can of worms so we don't have to really get into that
05:29:57.500
but i would just say that um it is true that jews don't try to convert people but they i am a
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supersessionist i'm catholic so i do believe that uh the new testament does supersede the old testament
05:30:08.200
and i would say that if you look at the modern jewish religion there is no basis in the bible
05:30:12.900
they look at the 613 commandments from the bible but they also believe that they received an oral
05:30:18.800
tradition and a mystic tradition on mount sinai that moses went up and he didn't just get the 10
05:30:23.320
commandments but he got the talmud that he got the kabbalah and you know there's these forgeries in
05:30:28.400
the middle ages that say that he got this mystical tradition and i think that a lot of this stuff
05:30:32.740
completely deviates from the extent that modern judaism has any roots in the old testament it
05:30:38.060
completely deviates from that i think that the jewish yo kenzo he says i watch on youtube and
05:30:42.780
appreciate the content rest of the chat be lame sorry my bro it's cool man look guys i'm i'm for
05:30:48.920
constructive criticism i'm for you know hey um suggestions or whatever but when i'm running
05:30:54.140
the show and i pause to give commentary or whatever and people will say unpause it that's
05:30:57.840
fucking annoying it's super annoying throws me off whatever and the thing is i like to engage with
05:31:02.180
the chat like i like to look at the chat and see what you guys are saying and and engage with it but
05:31:06.000
like when people try to like throw me off because i'm like gonna give some commentary to add to it uh
05:31:10.180
like oh oh pause bro like dude you can literally go watch this on your own then if you don't want to
05:31:15.000
have it pause like why the fuck are you watching it here like i'll never understand that so bro don't
05:31:20.680
don't worry about it bro you good uh kenzo anthony i see that i am mad at the fucking youtube chat
05:31:24.660
there were a couple idiots but that's fine bro there's always idiots everywhere we got like we
05:31:28.000
had like 6 000 people in here so of course they're going to be on some there's going to be a couple
05:31:31.800
idiots and knuckleheads every single time so it's all good bro don't worry about it man
05:31:34.760
messiah came his name was jesus and the pharisees that that rejected him that put him up on the cross
05:31:41.080
well they are the ancestors of the modern jews and they only developed and further made complex
05:31:47.240
their errors and their and their ignorance and they're hardening their heart away from the true
05:31:51.320
god so that that's just sort of a that's a huge topic maybe for another debate maybe another time
05:31:57.100
but um but yeah i mean if we're wrapping it up i just say it was a phenomenal debate i think uh
05:32:01.460
everybody had a great time a lot of great points a lot of good information get watchable very civil
05:32:06.920
and calm you know it wasn't a screaming match so i thought it was great holy shit that music was
05:32:12.480
loud what the fuck oh crispy drums hosted i didn't know what that music was i was like what is that
05:32:21.600
music what the hell i wouldn't call myself a super all right crispy drums hosted shout out to you bro
05:32:26.840
but clearly christ came to fulfill the old testament it does okay so that was a raid okay okay i didn't
05:32:33.540
know what that sound was bro to fill it it's not even like an overriding it's a continuation of what
05:32:38.540
he said and i the covenant for everybody not just the jews so there you go dinesh final 60 seconds
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dinesh d'Souza dinesh d'Souza.com amazing and nick fointes nick j fointes amazing amazing debate
05:32:49.600
yeah no i mean nick nick beat him because like i told you guys before um supporting israel is like
05:32:55.460
an indefensible position so it's going to be an l every time it's not a real debate this is a final
05:32:59.540
god alex i'll just close out and this this is really a topic for another day but i think that
05:33:04.500
there's an important distinction between the new covenant and the old there is a new covenant uh that
05:33:10.600
god um made uh with the christians and that does supersede the old covenant but the new testament
05:33:18.320
doesn't supersede the old because quite frankly if it really did we wouldn't have an old testament in
05:33:23.700
the bible the new testament i think a phrase i learned in christian philosophy many years ago
05:33:29.400
is that the new testament is in the old concealed and the old testament is in the new reveal so you
05:33:36.680
see here the the intimate relationship between the old and the new testament no i agree it is a
05:33:42.380
completion is a fulfillment it is one it's one compendium exactly so i don't think one even i'm
05:33:48.660
just saying the the new is the completion all right amazing incredible interview this is what the left
05:33:53.680
doesn't want they're the ones that want to censor this is totally different and free thank you so
05:33:58.020
much gentleman for being with us no good stuff man good stuff um all right we'll go back to the
05:34:02.440
candace thing and finish this up as well um but quick word from our sponsor niggas guys the oss is my
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absolutely robbing me blind because i know that they still run ads on my shit the goal is 10 000
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strong for us to fight back against the censorship of youtube that's how you really support me support
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the mission it allows me to continue to do these super long streams for you guys a lot of people tell
05:35:03.620
me hey myron like you shouldn't even be streaming on youtube anymore you should be streaming on
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rumbling kick only but i'll take the financial hit to reach more people especially on youtube where
05:35:10.560
people don't talk about this shit all right i like the retard that's unknown that says grift segment
05:35:17.780
when in reality i literally lost money for telling the truth it's the opposite of a grift but okay dude
05:35:22.120
thanks um all right so let me read some of these chats 19 phoenix says uh oss member will watch on
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youtube on tv appreciate that moaning butch-ass youtubers start contributing instead of complaining
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hey man bro it's crazy bro uh like i don't understand just watch it on twitter like if you
05:35:40.460
guys want it uninterrupted just watch it on twitter why would you watch it on someone else's channel if
05:35:45.220
they're reacting to it what the fuck uh think about this if a pack doesn't have shady ulterior motives
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then israel would just use that money to make weapons deals with the u.s to defend themselves in
05:35:55.800
appropriate non-genocidal manner register their contributions legally yeah hey myron in case you
05:36:01.700
didn't realize this is a real debate okay uh speedy says it's sad that we live in a modern time
05:36:06.700
where when anyone who is curious about the toxic uh feminism zionism means that you're furious of
05:36:12.280
jewish people yeah they're stupid bro you are the next in fours amen soon brian air fried up with the
05:36:16.740
real question my g how you doing clearly there's some stress and raspiness in your voice you doing
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okay i'm fine bro i'm just a little tired i only slept like three hours so i'm very fatigued and tired
05:36:26.980
man but the grind doesn't end uh fucking dipshits cry about the smallest things amen it is what it is
05:36:32.420
mr rain says i love how he quote the scripture but forgets to quote the part rev 29 29 i know
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that works in uh tribulation and poverty okay i was once a lost youtuber but now i'm found oss okay
05:36:48.060
appreciate you bro thank you okay where were we i think we were on this where were we we're like in
05:36:56.620
the middle oh yeah we're on this fucking fat girl right here we covered all baby we covered politics
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debating all this shit by the majority i did like our conversation might have to come back to you
05:37:09.140
but yeah guys running a sale as you guys know four bucks to join oss right now we're growing
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almost to 2000 let's get to 2000 cook on there man
05:37:19.840
hi guys owens i'm paris very nice to meet you so can i explain to you why i believe we live in a
05:37:29.380
patriarchy and why i believe we live in a society that's preferential to men so i'm gonna use the
05:37:33.340
example of male violence oh alan heard eight minutes ago said uh as the great pope what color god he
05:37:39.260
prays to and about what god has been ahead in antarctica pay attention to the weather i'm not like
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damn i don't mercy i didn't choose you farrakhan my own god didn't bloodlines remain nigga what the
05:37:49.240
fuck are you talking about what the hell are you talking about dude i'm not gonna like bro
05:37:53.580
yo this nigga alan heard is on some weirdo shit man i ain't gonna lie um long-nosed peterbilt 20 bucks
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says um off topic i'm 30 have the craziest it's to join the military and serve our country us coast
05:38:11.800
specifically wanted to join the marines when i dropped out of high school back then by my gd now
05:38:17.060
for the ship what are your thoughts um bro if you want to serve go ahead bro um coast guard is only
05:38:22.240
the is is you know it's a military branch but it's under the department of homeland security in times of
05:38:25.820
uh not war but it goes to the dod um in times of war there's a lot of places i can look but we're
05:38:31.540
going to talk about that 81 percent of women have been sexually assaulted one in six have been raped
05:38:36.140
one in four women oh my god here we fucking go bro these bullshit great statistics are the victims
05:38:42.140
of domestic violence 98 of perpetrators of rape and sexual assault are men 95 of perpetrators of
05:38:48.500
domestic violence are men um actually uh in regards to human trafficking 70 yeah women are too what the
05:38:53.880
fuck are you talking about bitch and if human trafficking victims are women so we're seeing a
05:38:57.280
very clear issue of men being violent towards women and then when we look at the way that our
05:39:00.780
government handles that one out of three rapes go reported and then out of the ones that go reported
05:39:05.940
seven percent and in jail time so if we're looking at that and we're looking at the fact that our
05:39:09.640
government yeah because the problem is that women retroactively withdraw consent and a lot of the
05:39:15.160
times they don't want to be looked at as 304s man like come on man really get that worried about male
05:39:19.600
violence well so what i would say is going back to biological differences men are naturally inclined more
05:39:28.340
towards aggression than women are so i am not shocked by you telling me it's even if you looked
05:39:32.580
at like i said male-on-male crime you would see that there are more instances instances of men killing
05:39:37.280
other men than there are instances of women killing other women and that i think actually speaks to our
05:39:41.120
biological differences which is actually at the root of everything that i believe about feminism being a
05:39:45.120
lie is because they're trying to program people to believe that men and women are the same now i don't
05:39:50.660
think that pointing to the fact that men are more aggressive than women which is a point that you and i
05:39:56.000
1000 agree on whether or not that manifests in the very wrong way of men harming men other men
05:40:03.360
which i think they do more probably than they're than they are beating women men men are male-on-male
05:40:07.120
violence um that manifestation doesn't change the fact that men and women are just biologically hard
05:40:13.400
uh shout out nasty if you want to join just oss you can bro you're good take advantage of the deal my friend
05:40:18.160
why are different i think it's actually proof of that i don't think it has anything to do with the fact of
05:40:24.060
of power dynamics in this country because to the contrary if you look at prison rates and talking
05:40:28.300
about how disparities don't mean anything the majority of overwhelming people that are in prison
05:40:32.300
are male right there's a reason for that so when it manifests on in a good way that male aggression
05:40:37.100
you know is the reason why we have men defending us you know men that are willing to go to war and die
05:40:41.500
for our nation so aggression being an aspect of masculinity has nothing to do with the conversation of
05:40:47.980
whether or not feminism is harming women today i mean i agree with you we agree in our biologically
05:40:53.420
different yes but i don't what i want you to connect it to is i guess power because what i'm talking
05:40:59.340
about when i say that we're existing under a matriarchy is that i believe that the social pressures
05:41:04.140
politically and socially that are coming and even within our music if we talk about hollywood
05:41:09.500
it's very much has become like just because like who was on the top music charts or whatever are women
05:41:15.660
okay how many women have paid maternity leave okay that's not like how are the how are things panning out
05:41:19.820
in the family courts why are abusive men having access to their children like why are women making
05:41:23.820
less than men like what i mean none of that means anything to me so that because they're lazy gap and
05:41:28.700
they go into career fields that pay less bro this woman's like an eternal victim i don't know if you
05:41:32.380
guys noticed fucking weirdo you can look and she what the this bitch i don't know what she looked crazy
05:41:39.820
bro obviously i'm sure you how she's so fat recognize the gender gap has been debunked so many times it's
05:41:44.460
almost foolish to debunk it again well you could say yeah that most women will go into jobs where they're making
05:41:48.780
less but then it does answer the question of why do we not value women's labor it's it's not that's
05:41:52.460
not valuing women's labor it's just a reality that if you are going to be a person that aspires to
05:41:56.700
become a brain surgeon you are going to make more money than a person that aspires to do something
05:42:02.140
that's you know like being a hairdresser in the household can we go back to the real violence question
05:42:09.180
why does our country not persecute men then who are raped they absolutely prosecute men men go to jail
05:42:15.340
way more for domestic violence than women do even though we know that women can uh perpetrate
05:42:20.380
a considerable amount of the domestic violence women beat on men or attack the men when there's
05:42:26.060
one party beating the other it's all it's majority the female beating the guy so what she's talking
05:42:32.380
about are men are violent but that doesn't that does she forgot to mention to you guys that women
05:42:36.620
also beat on men most domestic violence cases are the people beating each other up
05:42:40.540
well the majority of people who are in prison are men so they i i i don't know what you mean
05:42:46.380
that we don't prosecute men that are rapists we even prosecute people go to jail only seven
05:42:51.900
percent go to jail i don't know what that has to do with the question of whether or not we're living
05:42:54.860
in a matriarchy or patriarchy our government is preferential to men saying that they only like to
05:43:01.260
arrest men when they kill someone but they they are yeah but women are raping too and they don't go to
05:43:06.140
jail for nearly as much look at all these teachers that are getting caught for literally having sex
05:43:10.460
with underage students are they doing as much time i'll tell you nope government is awarding the
05:43:15.900
fuck is this woman talking about men for raping women i don't understand what they're not they don't
05:43:19.740
care rape is effectively legal you can literally rape a woman and you have a very low likelihood of
05:43:24.460
actually going to jail as a man rape is effectively legal it's effectively legal bro this girl is
05:43:29.580
fucking crazy bro here we go these radical leftists are retards bro holy man how many
05:43:36.620
men are actually going i will i actually agree with you that in terms of sex crimes and i don't
05:43:41.340
know how you're peeling out women because i would even and again this is hey guys do me a favor like
05:43:45.180
i said before i hate youtube but i'm on here anyway because i know a lot of you guys prefer to watch on
05:43:49.260
youtube so i'm here for you um even though some of the we had some retards in the chat earlier but i
05:43:53.580
think they're pretty much all gone now um because they're not real supporters anyway uh guys do me a
05:43:59.100
favor smash that like button let's get to four thousand i don't want to have to hold the show
05:44:03.660
hostage but let's get to four thousand likes guys we're only at 3400 look if you're not a member of
05:44:08.940
oss you you maybe you don't have money right now you don't want to join you're still waiting it's
05:44:12.940
fine four bucks we got three days left to go for the deal no biggie only thing i ask is that you guys
05:44:17.820
like the video we're streaming now for almost six hours so just smash that like button guys i feel like
05:44:22.940
crap really tired but i'm here anyway so um yeah man that's the only thing i ask you know if you
05:44:29.980
can't join noah says just smash like button it's free it's nothing with our argument back to it
05:44:34.140
today but i would even say that people are not being prosecuted hard enough when we're dealing
05:44:39.020
with crimes against children period yeah yeah talking about sexual crimes not being prosecuted
05:44:44.940
in this country is a whole other conversation and you will not get a disagreement with me but i think
05:44:48.700
that it's wrong to say that it's somehow attached to being a woman when you know they're so no i
05:44:53.020
don't want to hold the show hostage bro just just smash the like button guys i'm not going to hold
05:44:56.220
the hostage just uh if we can get it like in the next 10 minutes hit that 4 000 next 10 minutes i ain't
05:45:00.460
gonna hold it bro how many children that are going through the exact same thing i mean the lights
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we're at 36 something right now so smash it for pedophiles it's completely ridiculous but i don't
05:45:10.860
think it has anything to do with conversation that we're having right now but i agree with everything to
05:45:14.060
do with it and you're separating it to make your time bro this milk dud i'm going to add five more
05:45:21.020
minutes to this claim uh anti-semcast says which race of men is the gotcha question for these idiot libs
05:45:35.580
i don't understand your question bro but hi adam nice to meet you so your claim is just to be clear
05:45:41.020
that we live in a matriarchy right so i think even you'd agree that on a global level that's
05:45:45.420
obviously ridiculous when there are countries where people literally are honor killed for like
05:45:48.860
instagram posts but even if we're talking about just the us right we don't have paid maternity leave
05:45:53.580
abortion is illegal in over a dozen different states and as someone earlier was mentioning women
05:45:58.380
are overwhelmingly the victims of sexual violence and domestic abuse so that doesn't seem like a very
05:46:03.340
well-designed matriarchy where women are victims or you know lacking power in so many different
05:46:07.740
realms notice how he only mentioned two things oh they're the victims of domestic violence blah blah
05:46:11.980
blah bro men suffer far more than women do like well like you're mentioning two things like oh my god
05:46:18.300
women are oppressed bro if we're gonna go ahead and use the whose life is harder
05:46:22.380
fucking model which he's what the frame he's trying to go down men have significantly harder lives
05:46:27.180
we have to fight for everything that we get moving up in a company is way harder we don't get
05:46:31.020
the benefits of fucking um affirmative action uh men are far more likely to be homeless vagrants
05:46:38.140
alcoholics uh there's no fucking shelters for us there's a whole bunch of battered women shelters
05:46:44.060
but there's no fucking resources for men with any of this shit what the fuck is this guy talking about
05:46:48.540
bro i'll tell you this if we want to go ahead and go through the victim olympics of like who has a
05:46:53.180
harder life because that's the frame he's going down here men have it way fucking harder um
05:46:58.540
bro whenever they mention these bullshit stats it's all about blacks
05:47:05.100
okay i guess smash the like button guys we're 300 away 37 25 smash the like button let's get to 400
05:47:11.820
uh 4 000. society on like a structural level i just do not think that women are lacking
05:47:16.460
power on a structural level because they can't which they can by the way abort their children is
05:47:21.180
that like one of your components is that there's many states where abortion he mentioned 12 states out
05:47:25.180
of 50. bro the fact that women can even abort the kid and the men have nothing that have no say in
05:47:30.300
it shows that women have power this dude is fucking retarded bro literally dude you're over here saying
05:47:38.060
oh bro uh women can't abort a baby in 12 states okay men can't abort a baby ever
05:47:45.740
come punch shut the up man what the hell is this guy trying to say dude these loser
05:47:54.300
feminist motherfuckers are the worst question is illegal do you dispute that uh i am going to
05:47:59.580
dispute that having a child is somehow something that restricts women in any capacity like you're
05:48:03.900
saying that go to you to decide what you do with your own body i don't believe that it's i don't
05:48:07.260
believe that murder is something that you should be allowed sure and murder is the legal actually what
05:48:11.740
you're doing to somebody else's body so i'm pro-life so that so the the argument that well women will
05:48:17.180
only be free if they're able to you know kill off their own offspring to me is really that's a really
05:48:23.180
extremely off colored all right guys i brought the sound down falcon punch oh that's just those kind
05:48:29.660
of loud huh all right i brought it down to 50 percent falcon punch that should be a better chat right
05:48:35.500
yeah well i guess if you frame it that way everyone kind of has to agree with you but when we're
05:48:38.940
talking about abortion when 99 take place in the first few weeks when you know there's no thalamus
05:48:43.980
there's no cortex there's no capacity for consciousness in the fetus that's developing
05:48:47.980
saying that that fetus that has no capacity to be conscious aware anything else should have the same
05:48:52.780
rights same bodily autonomy as a woman that is an obvious when when you guys call them a simp in the
05:48:57.660
chat that's funny i mean you're you're making my point for me that yeah he's definitely a g chat actually
05:49:02.300
making a point that people who are you know born with tremendous disability should just be killed
05:49:07.340
because of cognitive functions i'm sorry i don't remember saying that when did i say that
05:49:11.100
the best argument which again this is sidetracked saying that let's get back on track people with
05:49:15.420
disabilities what i'm saying that if you're saying no i am saying that if you're saying that it's
05:49:18.700
cognitive ability and at what the ability to be conscious and just just so we're clear disabled
05:49:22.780
people are conscious they're they're aware okay um so the best argument that it is a life is the
05:49:27.580
fact that you have to kill it you have to have a procedure to kill it right so you have to intervene
05:49:31.100
on the develop living human cells in it but it's called it a developing life
05:49:35.500
sure you have to go into your body and murder it then notice how he's over here advocating
05:49:39.260
for women on all this other but then now he's sitting here saying yeah let's kill the baby
05:49:42.620
let's kill the baby bro these are the worst man it's speaking that there's living human
05:49:49.260
cells enough again so we can we can just tack that off because we just have a fundamental
05:49:53.020
disagreement on whether or not a child people have been talking a lot about whether you have to be a
05:49:57.820
mother you have to work a lot of women have to pick one or the other because in many cases
05:50:02.060
if you want to have a child first of all there's a big gap in your resume so getting a job after that
05:50:06.220
might be super difficult and then secondly even in the process of having that child being pregnant
05:50:10.700
especially in the third trimester and then raising the child where the you know the vast majority of
05:50:14.620
the burden typically is on the mother uh the the workplace and our system of our economy is not
05:50:20.700
tailored to make that easy for them i actually totally agree with you and this is this gets in
05:50:25.100
maternity leave i don't know actually i'm agreeing with you that this pressure that you're
05:50:29.020
describing exists for women and i'm saying that it exists for women because of the feminists that
05:50:33.100
came before who argued for women to enter the workplace so what you're saying is the solution
05:50:38.380
didn't work and it actually produced more problems and now we have more problems and we need more
05:50:42.620
governance to be able to tackle these problems so your life system that's forcing women to make
05:50:47.660
certain decisions i just it's not forcing women to begin with women should have the option to choose
05:50:52.220
do i want to be a stay-at-home mom do i want to work do i have some mix of both right that's the entire
05:50:56.140
point here but you are also making an argument that if you are a woman who does run a business
05:51:00.060
and does have employees that they should be forced to pay that maternity leave uh sure yeah okay so
05:51:05.420
under like that's like saying taxes are forced yo oss guys can you guys do the cookie monster event
05:51:11.260
stream with um with our guy corey houston uh tuesday guys you guys cool doing it next tuesday
05:51:17.660
because he's out of town thursday so to all my oss guys
05:51:21.180
cookie monster event oss only most banned topic ever can't cover it on youtube or even rumble for
05:51:30.460
that for that matter next tuesday i'm thinking like 11 or 12 a.m you ninjas want to do it or what
05:51:37.820
let me know in the oss chat assemble guys time to assemble ninjas
05:51:42.140
let me know if you guys want to do it on tuesday or you guys can do it on tuesday because i know some
05:51:49.260
of you guys probably want to catch it live and um and ask questions now i can't do it thursday guys
05:51:56.300
because uh corey hughes isn't available corey hughes is not available so he asked for tomorrow but
05:52:02.540
tomorrow we got fresh and fit so it would have to be probably next tuesday is what i'm thinking
05:52:06.140
no i'm definitely not doing it on youtube bro you niggas crazy hell no we'll get banned instantly
05:52:13.420
bro if i did that stream on youtube i'd get banned midstream 100 get banned midstream 100 with that
05:52:20.940
topic bro there's certain things the government youtube niggas are saying um
05:52:26.540
are saying yo uh what what's what's the cookie monster bro uh you niggas are supposed to be new
05:52:32.380
here that's great though that's great us to regulate our economy to ensure equality and justice
05:52:37.100
and better outcomes okay but just so you know when you okay okay so i see a lot of you guys are saying
05:52:43.500
yes all right cool cool cool cool all right yeah i'm thinking next tuesday chat we'll do it it i'll so
05:52:48.620
basically what i'll do guys i'll do my regular show at 5 p.m on next week i'll do the show then um
05:52:55.740
we'll go up until about like 11 p.m and then i saw stream for like five or six hours then we'll um
05:53:01.020
do it on oss i'm not doing our rumble because people are going to clip it bro so nah it's going
05:53:06.860
to be oss only because we're going to go deep also this topic is uh illegal in like 20 countries bro
05:53:14.060
it's not illegal in america but it's illegal in like 20 other countries
05:53:17.820
obviously we got freedom of speech but yeah can't do it i can't even do it on rumble bro
05:53:22.460
so yeah we're gonna do no nigga don't wait for europa this is going to be better than europa
05:53:26.620
you're gonna have an actual researcher what the hell you're gonna actually be able to ask
05:53:32.140
questions and go through the the thing with cory hughes man so yeah it's going to be uh next tuesday
05:53:38.620
promo ends july 4th guys price going to go up to back to ten dollars you get it now for four so get
05:53:44.300
it now so you guys can save your spot for this stream next week where we cover the cookie monster
05:53:48.700
event because i definitely can't do that on youtube not even on rumble bro do that like to a small
05:53:53.420
business owner developed country so what you what you are arguing yo i just told you guys i can't
05:53:58.540
do thursday because corey hughes isn't available so it has to be next week i think four is supporting
05:54:03.260
big corporations and taking up a little guys because i'm arguing for supporting people that
05:54:06.940
want to be mothers and also work at the same right i under the mechanism we do that with it can be
05:54:10.700
subsidies you guys can't just keep this you can't say that we can't have the economic we can't get
05:54:15.180
down to the economics like of what it actually implies right i have an economics degree and i can tell
05:54:19.260
you if there's a small business i got an economics degree but what the does that help with
05:54:22.540
anything you niggas are still stupid business that can't afford to pay maternity leave right
05:54:25.740
government might probably subsidize them and help cover the costs like where is the government
05:54:29.340
getting money from this is like this tax revenue i mean right exactly so from us so from us just to
05:54:33.820
be clear from us and this is the thing that that gets me about all of these debates yeah the magic
05:54:37.980
solution that everybody has is that what we just need to tax the government every other developed
05:54:41.180
country has paid no but it's not magic as in like the money is magical country the money is coming
05:54:45.660
from you it's coming from us so you're sitting here that's how taxes work yeah and that's why those other
05:54:50.060
countries pay like 50 of their income to taxes dude the aka they're socialists man that's what
05:54:55.740
it's like bro what the man yes like we should be raising taxes yeah okay and this is the entire
05:55:00.940
this is the entire problem is that the government is already taxing homes times two and people are
05:55:05.420
already struggling with what's being taken out of their taxing capital gains properly or corporate
05:55:09.580
profits properly sure you have something that there's a reason that we should be taxing more here
05:55:13.820
there it's an efficiency problem don't you guys want like families are having to bring in more
05:55:17.820
revenue to help women be mothers yeah let's go ahead and give the government who's incredibly
05:55:21.500
inefficient more money so they can be even less efficient yes what i'm saying is that you are
05:55:26.780
just creating a cyclical argument you're basically saying that women want to be able to have it all
05:55:30.540
women cannot have it all because the government choice to do what they'd like okay but you're
05:55:34.380
saying women should be have the choice to have it all okay so you're saying really interesting way of
05:55:38.620
putting like what you're do you have it all right now where you're working and you're also yeah she
05:55:42.380
does how do i sign up for the oss i've ever been uh dived in a balkan history world war ii crush has
05:55:48.140
probably had the only real death camp um bro it's pinned at the top man just click the link
05:55:55.100
anti-semcat literally the link is pinned join oss.locals.com the website's right there man
05:56:00.780
click that four bucks get in so a mother is that having it all i'm saying that it's not possible for
05:56:07.100
women to have it all it is impossible and that's one of whatever that is is what i would want other
05:56:11.420
women to have as well which is the flexibility right to work uh and most women can't get that
05:56:16.300
buddy they most women are not gonna get that buddy job and also raise kids if they'd like no but that
05:56:21.580
but that's exactly you guys keep arguing that what people want is more flexibility so you're
05:56:25.580
acknowledging that right now under with feminism on fire we are agreeing women are going into the
05:56:31.580
workforce like i'm just kind of using a hyperbolic expression it definitely is on fire
05:56:35.740
like women can do anything that they want nowadays bro they are more free now than ever before
05:56:40.860
despite this retard saying this that they're not they're absolutely free we are arguing that
05:56:45.340
women need to have more opportunities women need to have more rights they've taken that now you have
05:56:49.260
i would argue women have more rights and opportunities than men do we've overcorrected
05:56:53.900
we have absolutely overcorrected majority of people that are graduating with college degrees
05:56:57.900
are in fact women uh men are committing suicide at a higher weight than women we're looking around the
05:57:01.900
world feminism also would push for like increased awareness of men's mental health so like that's
05:57:05.420
that's fine great you love feminism that's great we already know that most americans agree with me
05:57:09.740
by the way like women should have paid maternity culture if you go issue by issue and by values
05:57:14.780
they might not associate with the term feminism because people like you have made it toxic but the
05:57:18.780
actual values feminism will move the goalposts and then this guy's a fucking
05:57:23.660
holy shit when they begin taxing so that we can account for paid maternity leave for three months which
05:57:30.700
basically means a small business owner has to not have an employee while having to pay yeah that's
05:57:35.820
absolutely ridiculous dude no this guy's a socialist man oh yeah bro just give out free everything yeah
05:57:42.620
woo let's go free everything months and months and months like the person's not there they're not
05:57:47.580
actually business the problem with like guys like this guy's a socialist man look dude if you want to be
05:57:52.780
a socialist that's cool but that's not the united states man that's not the united states this doesn't
05:57:58.620
have the revenue to cover paid maternity leave the government would probably subsidize them to make
05:58:01.660
up the cost no i actually think that the way things were made more sense where we had an environment
05:58:06.940
where you could afford to take care of children with just one person bringing in income in the house
05:58:13.100
is that possible in the current environment you can obviously when things are going to get way more
05:58:16.620
expensive with these tariffs as well like it's not going to be easy to afford anything in the coming
05:58:19.980
years is it going to happen happen overnight no but i think we need to be realistic about the fact that
05:58:25.260
the first thing didn't work right the entire argument the first thing was women entering
05:58:29.740
the workforce is going to make everybody happier and richer that was the idea is that women having
05:58:33.260
the choice to enter the workforce is better than them being forced to not do that okay that's the
05:58:37.420
argument okay that actually is not the argument at all the argument was that women would become
05:58:41.900
and i'm talking about what the feminists got ahead of and this is like this imaginary twitter
05:58:45.980
feminist but like right now you're talking to me and that's not the argument i'm not actually
05:58:49.020
debating an imaginary twitter feminist i'm speaking to you and i have no idea why you're a weird
05:58:53.020
male feminist you're becoming increasingly more rude when i'm just rebutting your points that you're
05:58:56.940
no you're not responding to my point i am responding to your point i'm saying that you're creating a
05:59:00.540
cyclical argument where you keep saying that the thing that you just did that you said was going to
05:59:04.540
be enough what we actually need is for women just enter the workforce oh women are in the workforce
05:59:08.220
and actually not enough i'm saying we don't have enough because we don't have i'm telling you that
05:59:11.260
you're also not going to have enough because you're going to then get be complaining when you get that
05:59:14.620
paid maternity leave because you're okay well they are arguing for family paid leave so that's even better yeah
05:59:21.100
okay so you you might do you think fathers should also be around to help raise children i think
05:59:25.100
who's going to work if everybody goes home every time a child is not everyone's going to have a
05:59:28.860
kid at the same time pause all right everyone will have a male partner nice talking to you as well
05:59:35.660
my final claim is that yeah i got it was that was painful feminism has made things easier for men
05:59:41.420
hi hi i'm jenny nice to meet you nice to meet you you said that feminism is easier for men or is it's
05:59:53.500
made things i think easier in society for men yeah now men don't have to commit and they're being
05:59:59.020
offered sex from women for free so they they have to actually affect all right feminism made things
06:00:03.820
easier for men i think she means from a sexual perspective but it's i i this i would actually kind
06:00:08.220
of disagree with because it's made sex actually harder for men um but the top tier guys are
06:00:14.300
killing it so if you're a top tier guy yeah it's made it easier for you yeah for sure effectively do
06:00:20.060
less um but it's two completely different um existences bro like being a man as a as an average
06:00:28.140
dude versus being a dude as a top tier guy it's a completely different existence versus like being a
06:00:32.300
woman that's like average looking versus a girl that's hot like it's going to be similar like bro
06:00:37.020
there's mids on yachts right there's mids on yachts with hot bitches but there's no brokey
06:00:44.060
random regular niggas with higher tier guys that make sense like it's not going to happen and be
06:00:49.420
motivated less because feminism has a kind of insisted on this culture of sex and hooking up
06:00:54.060
and i think that that's has been a net negative for women on good faith i just want to say i think
06:01:00.300
yeah that i would argue that she's correct there in general it's made it bad for women because all the
06:01:04.940
power actually went to the men and a lot of feminists don't know that i've said it before
06:01:09.260
i'll say it again feminism inadvertently gave the power and leverage to men to to uh to uh especially
06:01:18.220
higher tier men so yeah absolutely gave the power to them uh guys smash that like button bro we're
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almost at we're less than 200 away less than 200 away from 4 000 man shout out to ruggedzilla with
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h i'm gonna give you a dime to marco for gifting 12 subs thank you so much i appreciate that bro
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and uh dpg with 45 fucking subs yo thank you so much dpg bro thank you so much bro i'm tired as hell
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i feel like crap i was gonna get off soon but you know what man dpg has bought y'all niggas at least
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another like 45 minutes bro you guys should go oh i need everybody in the chat to be saying wdpg bro
06:02:04.620
literally he just got i was gonna get off soon guys i was gonna probably go after this bitch talked
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but he literally just got y'all maybe the end of this goddamn debate here
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thank you dpg bro all these niggas owe you one bro big time oh wow another
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all right i guess we're finishing the video then i guess we're finishing the video niggas
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god damn you guys need to thank dpg wdpg man fucking real supporter man
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fucking love you bro thank you so much i don't even know what to say thank you so much dude
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single-handedly uh keeping the operation going supporting the mission thank you dude um real g
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right there man see that's real support right there bro my guys like dpg guys no assess like they're not
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gonna say dumb shit like bro unpause the video you know i mean it's always the ungrateful
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bitch ass niggas they got the most to say bro every single time bro so yeah appreciate you man
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thank you so much for all the youtube guys smash that like button you're probably not gonna donate
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as much as dpg so just the only thing i ask is smash that like button you don't gotta spend a dollar
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smash the like button you're approaching this with holy man this guy bro this is a real one man
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holy dude 150 subs man thank you dude so much dpg is that ninja man that ninja man
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thank you brother appreciate that greatly man i'm gonna you know bro like literally like that
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that's what allows me to keep doing what i'm doing like you guys like this type of content you guys got
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to thank the guys that support like dpg you got to support the guys that you got to thank the guys
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like that are on oss right whether you donate four bucks and you're in the oss and you rock with me or
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you donate 45 subs uh every little bit helps and it means a lot guys because obviously you guys know
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right invest back in a product right with um with making the content better everything else like
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that i gotta turn the ac on i got warm in here the camera's turned off so um yeah it's like 85 degrees
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in here so yeah man definitely uh you know the the grind you guys you know keep the movement going man i
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really appreciate that all right let's see what this asian chick got to say with like the best interest
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for women like you think that is negative for women and harmful and i think in some aspects we can
06:04:35.180
agree to that um i do think that there are some aspects of sex work or only fans or whatnot that maybe
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men are definitely the huge consumers of but if we are so concerned with women putting that out for
06:04:48.220
free um it's not it's charged right they're making money off of it then why are we create chaos with
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the five gifted thank you so much my friend yo that uh that emo with a merchant is funny as
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fuck tpc with the tent thank you so much dpc appreciate it man i gotta call you after the show
06:05:05.420
so we can figure out this camera shit bro because um i know you said that the kid i gotta fix the auto
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focus you said so thank you brother we not putting the onus more on men for being the one that is in
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control of that demand right so we can take away the supplier you know condemn it all we want but
06:05:24.380
if there's no onus on men to be the consumers of said products then wouldn't you think that would
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solve the issue that you're bringing up yeah i actually agree with you on that and and i really
06:05:35.020
get to that i want to be very clear when i say that i'm anti-feminist this does not mean that i do not
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also criticize men i think that's something that people get very wrong okay one thousand percent agree
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i believe the problem was seeded by the feminist movement i think the sex revolution and telling
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women i mean literally these were protesting they didn't have their shirts on and this used to be
06:05:55.420
just your grandparents couldn't even imagine this like women walking down the street and having their
06:05:59.500
boobs out and their butts out and instagram um and it created an environment where men then had to
06:06:04.460
work harder for a woman's affection for a woman to take her clothes off sex education in the classroom
06:06:11.420
there's this huge myth that people were just doing it like you know oh we might as well teach them
06:06:15.740
because the children are just doing it actually before they introduced sex education the majority
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of high school graduates were graduating with their virginity intact and then within 10 years
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of sex education we saw a reversal so i'm saying feminist feminism actually seeded the problem and
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now the problem according to cdc's youth risk behavior 1991 54 of high school schoolers reported
06:06:34.540
having sexual intercourse um that number increased to 30 by 2021 is bad and it's also bad for men it's
06:06:41.180
harmful for men to be constantly exposed to porn interesting you know why i decreased i guarantee
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you a decrease from the male side not from the female side the are smashing bro they definitely
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are pornography and soft pornography and i think it actually um in many ways emasculates men okay but
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i would say they are the main social benefactors of that culture because well first and foremost as
06:07:03.100
we're talking about women who have to kind of pick one or the other or try to manage both and
06:07:08.620
can we have it all like no you can't have it all on a day where i really feel like i gave a little
06:07:13.660
bit more to my career i ache because i'm i go okay but like now i feel like i gave didn't give the same
06:07:18.780
amount to my children um and it's a constant push and pull and it never feels enough it really doesn't
06:07:24.620
feel enough so like to a degree i think that feminism does benefit men i think that it allows
06:07:29.340
men to be more emotionally intelligent allows them to understand what that looks like and also
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be able to connect emotionally intelligent man i hate that term with other people right but at the
06:07:39.500
same time there's so much work that feminism has done for women that to say that it benefits men
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more i don't think is an accurate statement for example title nine has made it very possible for
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women to go to college 600 more so right and i think that that is a huge benefit yeah um even though
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their sports don't generate as much money and their sports suck uh their sports now have to get as
06:08:00.620
much funding as the men's sports which is fucking retarded because uh women get all the same
06:08:06.940
funding even though their sport sucks and nobody watches it which is hilarious so in college which
06:08:11.500
is a make-believe world uh meritocracy doesn't matter uh also guys um we are 50 away from 4 000 man smash
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that like button ninjas we are 40 away from uh really 40 likes away from 4 000 benefit that we can credit to
06:08:28.140
the feminist movement though i understand your point though of trying to say that like sex work
06:08:32.700
is harmful for women and more beneficial for men because they're benefiting from it the most but at
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the same time if you think they're also suffering from it seven jig with the five get the subs appreciate
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you create chaos with the five gifted sub thank you so much aziaz during fresh's show with zerk
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ddg was brought up and the people in the room said him but fresh started defending him and saying
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he was a fan he said he doesn't know how he didn't like how you handled him
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i don't know why you what's the point of that what was the point of that aziaz
06:09:11.660
does that not contradict your point yeah so i disagree on the fact that and we do agree that
06:09:17.580
more women are going to college more actually more women than men are graduating with college degrees and
06:09:22.540
despite that people are saying that we still live under a patriarchy women are free to start their
06:09:26.620
own companies women are free to pay women whatever they want to pay women could hire and
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in some cases do hire all women and so i don't i don't really understand which wasn't your argument
06:09:36.220
to be fair the idea that even with all of that freedom women are still not able to achieve what
06:09:41.980
men are able to achieve i think college education actually has increased women's stress and i'm
06:09:48.060
talking about in terms of how expensive it is and i know you're gonna then say well the solution to
06:09:52.620
that is we have to then move the goal post and i'm i'm guessing here no i mean but like college should
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be free everything should be free he thinks well i think we just need more free stuff and obviously
06:10:01.180
nothing's free we're talking we're just gonna tax us if i get in jack i just want to say i think the
06:10:05.900
the issue that we keep coming back to is that you believe that women would be happiest in the home
06:10:11.260
where they don't have to work and i think most people in general probably wouldn't like want to work
06:10:15.500
anyways but i think the main issue that we keep avoiding is that this is not an issue created by
06:10:21.180
feminism this is an issue created by capitalism yeah so i've heard this argument that it's an issue
06:10:27.020
created by capitalism but you don't agree you think feminism is the greater issue then i think that
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now the issue more money to live well we have to spend more money to live right i think in large part
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because feminists got duped by the government and i think we're okay we just keep further enslaving
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ourselves to the government i i'm not a person who believes in big government and you find that
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feminists are constantly like well we can deal with the college issue we just need more government
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we can deal with the you know needing to have more benefits we just need more government so it's like
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okay every household 100 and i'm trying to prevent that and i'm saying that there was a time in america
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and what's aspirational for me is i was uh you know raised in part by my grandparents they were very happy
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they were just i lived in that environment of what that looked like and i think okay for many of
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people who didn't grow up there feminism has taught us and i say this as someone who had to take feminism
06:11:17.740
101 courses when i was in college that it was like this nightmare and people weren't happy and people
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were suffering and women were just were suffering people you know were being forced and that there
06:11:27.340
weren't actually these things that just marriages that worked that the women actually weren't disempowered
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by being the ceos of their house allowing women shout out to uh montezino appreciate that my friend
06:11:40.620
with the five gifted appreciate you very much my friend and uh you guys you guys got mordecai
06:11:46.620
showing up on the screen man to have more choice and freedom and agency to leave sorry you've been
06:11:51.660
voted out by the majority i did enjoy this conversation very respectful by the majority i didn't
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like enjoy this conversation very respectful i was thinking that a lot of your claims are very
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contradictory saying that we live in a matriarchy that men benefit from feminism more i would like to
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understand why again you think that men benefit from feminism more um basically because men don't
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have to commit to women men are still able to do what they're doing and they have they are allowed
06:12:30.460
to basically step away from all of the responsibilities of what it really meant to be a man and lead a
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household and that's in large part i think due to the sexual revolution i mean is it really bad that
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we don't have to give men the chase don't they have gratification from chasing us like it's a hunter
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versus prey situation to me so i could already tell this is retarded she's a bimbo 100 i feel
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like a lot of relationships especially back then were based on trying to get to home run like very
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fast and now that we have the freedom to not commit and not tie ourselves to one man for the whole
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definitely a whore okay guys we hit 4 000 guys let's get to 4 300 now let's get to 100 engagement
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it and shout out to my ninja um mango passion with the 20 gifted bro thank you so much brother i
06:13:22.780
appreciate that the rest of our life um i just don't necessarily think that's bad i just don't
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think the revolution has decreased our value we're not chewed gum for people who uh gotten our chewed gum
06:13:35.420
man if we're gonna be honest here speaking of which man i gotta give credit to my guy brett look at
06:13:39.500
this video i made on jfk real quick quick little uh side note here oh john f kennedy was anti-israel
06:13:50.700
having a nuclear bomb he was not a fan of israel he did not like ben-gurion ben-gurion lied to him
06:13:54.860
said that they don't have a nuclear program when they really did when he sent inspectors in he had
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like a fake nuclear facility setup that was not real jfk knew this he hated it so him and his brother
06:14:03.660
effectively worked to not only get a pack he tried to get them to register in the pharah this was his
06:14:07.820
brother robert f kennedy rfk and john f kennedy was trying to get the nuclear inspections the next
06:14:12.060
thing you know both of them end up dead and assassinated through peculiar means we'll just
06:14:15.340
say it that way so israel ends up getting a nuclear bomb shortly after john f kennedy was killed in 1963
06:14:20.540
because the president came and replaced john f kennedy was this guy right here lyndon b johnson you can
06:14:26.540
thank him for the unequivocal support of israel that we currently exercise now as part of our foreign
06:14:31.740
policy lyndon b johnson was the first president to come in and basically have this we're going to give
06:14:36.700
israel whatever they want foreign aid tripled pretty much under his reign we've stopped the
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nuclear inspections we stopped making them registering to pharah and lyndon b johnson was
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the beginning of a very pro-israel america and ever since after lyndon b johnson we've adopted this
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very unequivocal support of israel and their greatest ally
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yo nice clip from brett man you guys can see brett is putting in the work baby
06:15:05.660
so um so yeah man here's a clip guys do me a favor if i could get the troops to rally and support
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this open up the video man play it in another tab for me guys smash the like button let's get a
06:15:20.220
couple hundred actual views on likes on this thing this thing needs more views man this is a great
06:15:25.180
video right here nice and summarized man and this is the type of shit that got me in trouble with
06:15:31.180
fucking youtube but yeah the editing is fire bro so guys you for all you bitch ass niggas bro why do
06:15:35.980
you pay your clippers so much yo if you want good content you gotta fucking invest man like i'm not
06:15:41.740
gonna fucking not take care of my people so so yeah bro that's that's um that's that's kind of what it
06:15:49.420
is you got to take care of the people got to take care of the people so shout out to my guy brett
06:15:53.100
fantastic fucking video that you made here um smash the like button guys i dropped the link in
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there i'm dropping a link for you guys right now on uh oss and on rumble and on kick dropping it for
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you guys on kick as well just open it up real quick guys smash the like button and get a couple hundred
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views share with a friend this is the truth on jfk they don't want you guys to know
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value connection and sex doesn't always have to have this deep meaning it is just connection and
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intimacy between two people who trust each other and why do we have to deny women that hold on sorry
06:16:32.300
gratification like men you say that are wired to want that why not women why uh well we have we again i
06:16:41.580
go back to just our basic biological differences there was a really interesting book that was done
06:16:46.540
by a biophysicist he i think recently passed away named edward o wilson where he just sort of breaks
06:16:53.900
down the biological arguments basically he looks in the wild to see the behavior of animals his thesis
06:16:59.900
is just that you can never you basically can never beat your own biology and then he kind of compares
06:17:04.060
it to what we see here as just humans and our social interactions and things that have been abundantly
06:17:09.820
clear when you look at every civilization over time whether it's from you know 400 bc to la today
06:17:18.380
what are these habits that you can see that never go away and people coming together and starting
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families is one of these things because we are biologically wired to find a family to settle down
06:17:29.420
and to have children and i think when you have women that are going out and they're giving all of the
06:17:35.180
goods up for free the goods the goods the goods i'm not gonna say i'm not gonna buy out the goods
06:17:41.660
up for free men are not the goods for free from men and that we are very actually you can certainly
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bruh it that's the pr that see she thinks that sex is yeah whatever this is retarded okay
06:17:54.700
kandis you can't save them all bro do that and there's connections we're not sockeye salmon we're not
06:17:59.500
made to breed and have families and then die you are welcome to do that i'm just saying that when it comes time
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for you to find a partner you may find yourself in a circumstance where men don't value you as high
06:18:08.700
because men men like like you spoke to men like to compete they like to feel like they've won
06:18:13.020
something i'd like to deprive men of that because they don't need to have that that's actually like
06:18:17.500
that's actually but you but you did bring up you did bring yeah yeah and that's what you say
06:18:21.820
that men are you know essentially predatory and we have the goods that we have to meet like keep from
06:18:26.460
them oh i didn't mean the goods in a bad way um but that's such an objectifying way the goods
06:18:30.940
what the grocery goods honestly i i think i think that that's just kind of you don't have value
06:18:35.260
colloquial songs today i think we have value apart from how many people we sleep with how many like
06:18:42.540
you also devalue education for women and i think that's very interesting because you're also a very
06:18:46.940
educated woman and in a lot of ways this is just like an observation you do that you devalue yourself a
06:18:53.580
lot i definitely do not feel like i'm devaluing myself make him a sandwich yeah
06:18:58.140
yeah which is the title of my book yes feed your men and everything feed the people that you love
06:19:05.020
because family isn't defined just by your partner or your kids family's community and you should care
06:19:10.380
about your community and understanding that yeah this woman is cooked bro this is why like this rhetoric
06:19:17.900
like um that she's giving this is like um this is how modern women think in america this is how why
06:19:24.940
they how they think and like this is why a lot of them just are never able to keep a guy
06:19:30.860
cooked yeah i just don't think you really all right we're 44 uh almost 4100 guys smash that like
06:19:35.900
mullets gets a 4200 man 4200 let's get to it care about the community that much when you're pushing
06:19:41.660
this rhetoric of devaluing women so much to stay in the kitchen stay within the home it's actually valuing
06:19:47.260
yourself more because you're not exposing yourself to the of uh you know outside being around a bunch of
06:19:53.260
men being a 304 hurting your value she doesn't understand that women are supposed to preserve
06:19:57.900
their value right and it's sad because you know asians typically understand this but she doesn't
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and also saying that they're wasting money on college when education is very important there's
06:20:09.500
a lot of female scientists pause you've been voted out of course tattoo face hello hi how are you
06:20:23.660
what's your name i'm zola stone very nice to meet you zola you're very pretty eyes thank you um and then
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she ruined it by putting faith on her face and this stupid ass tattoo on her neck bro these women are
06:20:35.020
stupid see this this is why this is why the father is important father would have told her no you
06:20:40.620
can't put that shit on your face you make yourself look stupid make me look stupid in the process what
06:20:44.780
the hell is wrong with you um so you keep talking about hey guys do me a favor smash that like button
06:20:51.020
again we're almost at 4200 almost at 100 engagement let's get to 100 engagement and then uh we can stop
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fucking smash the like button only fans and kim kardashian and um well i do only fans okay and
06:21:11.900
um well i'm mainly a recording artist but i do that yeah yeah cooked absolutely cooked bro holy holy
06:21:22.300
how you got faith on your fucking face and you're a fucking thot only faith i got is that you're
06:21:28.620
going to be sucking some dick to fund the music okay but you know you're saying basically that we kind
06:21:35.420
of like devalue ourselves but at the same time i'm celibate i still consider my
06:21:45.580
okay guys let's translate some womanese for you guys okay womanese 101 when a girl tells you i'm
06:21:50.380
celibate what that really means is i was a whore or i recently was just acting like one
06:21:55.340
so i'm gonna go ahead and take a period of cleansing
06:22:02.300
and i am now celibate anytime a girl tells you that she's celibate that's a red flag she was a whore
06:22:08.300
okay she either just got done going on a fucking rampage or has done a rampage her entire life
06:22:16.460
and now she's celibate but one of those two things happens when they say i'm celibate now 304 304 bro
06:22:25.580
myself a woman of god and so you know not all of us woman of god but you're a stripper doing only
06:22:33.100
fans bro these are cooked bro they go what the bruh us are just out there just oh hey showing the goods
06:22:43.020
you know like we do respect our bodies still so i don't like that you how do you how do you how do
06:22:48.540
you respect your body by showing it to to random dudes in a strip club and as they throw money on
06:22:53.900
you and playing back that ass up how is that like what kind of putting us all in one box yes so we
06:23:03.020
have to in order to have debates we have to make generalizations of course there can be some exceptions
06:23:06.940
to the rule but what i'm trying to understand is how can you say that you're not you know giving up
06:23:13.500
your body if you are a stripper well because i said i'm celibate i still want to get married i still want
06:23:19.340
to have kids and for some of us it's hard for us to have kids and i've also dealt with sexual abuse
06:23:25.180
since a child you know so i wasn't doing any sexual work as a child you know and still went through
06:23:33.660
things like that so so i first want to say perfectly sympathetic to everything you're saying especially
06:23:39.180
if you come from an environment where you've lived through something when you're a kid
06:23:41.980
it makes it infinitely harder and it's actually a reason why so many people turn to sex work because
06:23:46.460
they don't have that structure um at home that gives them i think other options but would you agree
06:23:52.060
with me that if you could like that wouldn't have to college for music production for music production
06:23:58.300
i went to la recording school okay so did you decide to be a stripper because of economic
06:24:02.220
restraint or because of freedom for freedom you know we want the choice to do isn't that interesting
06:24:08.860
she stripped so she could be free but what she doesn't realize is you end up becoming a slave and
06:24:12.700
i'll tell you guys why when you become a dancer guys let me tell you guys about women that get into
06:24:27.340
the problem is that women that do sex work right fast money i always say this one of my phrases right
06:24:32.700
is fast money comes with slow problems and when girls get into sex work and they make money quickly
06:24:38.460
we're talking about a woman that doesn't have any tangible skills okay most dancers a lot of the times
06:24:44.300
most dancers guys don't have any real tangible skills hence why they have to be dancers okay they
06:24:58.460
have like maybe a low-paying job they don't make that much money so one way that they can make quick
06:25:03.980
money is they can dance guys a girl can easily go into a club and make a thousand dollars a night
06:25:09.660
two thousand dollars a weekend you multiply that by four you know that's eight to ten thousand dollars
06:25:17.580
a month working only eight days right so what ends up happening is the women make the money quick
06:25:25.500
and they don't have any real skill sets and they don't feel the need to learn any of the other skill
06:25:29.020
sets because they're making this money so quick this is why strippers that say i'm going to college
06:25:32.220
they almost never finish okay very rarely do they finish so they go ahead they make this money etc and
06:25:39.660
then it's like they can't work a regular job anymore you're going to tell me they're going to
06:25:43.660
work a regular job making ten dollars an hour when they can go work for a couple hours and make a
06:25:47.820
thousand dollars a night no they're finito they can't do regular jobs no more it's over okay so what
06:25:56.060
ends up happening is they end up on the perpetual stripping pole for a very long time and it's hard for
06:26:01.420
them to get out of that life damn near impossible because during the tenure of them being dancers they
06:26:08.780
didn't learn any tangible skills so since they didn't learn any tangible skills they need to
06:26:11.740
keep relying upon and doing the fucking dancing to make the money and then also a lot of these
06:26:15.420
strippers have bad spending habits they do drugs to dance they drink all the time to dance so you
06:26:21.820
add in the fact that a lot of them aren't educated you add in the fact that a lot of them don't have
06:26:24.540
any tangible skills they're using drugs and they're drinking alcohol all the time what the
06:26:27.340
do you think is going to happen it's going to be a spiral and then you end up like this
06:26:32.860
fucking girl with faith faith tattooed on your face saying i'm celibate come on man yeah you're
06:26:39.020
celibate now but we know that's you's goods do whatever we want with our bodies okay you know um
06:26:46.540
i don't think it matters if you if it doesn't matter though why the are you celibate
06:26:52.940
if it doesn't bother you and you're so proud about your job etc and you do all this
06:26:56.700
shit why are you celibate now see her celibacy was to regain some composure of her brain women
06:27:07.180
will sit there and make it sound like they can go ahead and sport their way through life
06:27:11.340
and be hoes with zero consequence but the reality is they can't fucking do it there's a reason why
06:27:17.020
it's called hot girl summer and not how girl life okay women can't be career-long sluts they just can't
06:27:23.180
do it bro they can't do it some girls can stay on the car carousel longer than others
06:27:29.020
albanus for whiner i appreciate you bro with the gifted sub but yeah some girls can stay on the car
06:27:34.860
carousel longer than others but they all got to get off at some point bro they all got to get off at
06:27:39.180
some point and the girls that have been on the car carousel the longest they're they're the ones
06:27:43.740
that got to go i'm celibate now i'm lesbian now i have therapy now because being a whore
06:27:55.900
so when it comes to dancers and women that do sex work they almost can never leave it because it's
06:28:01.340
too high paying and they don't learn any real tangible skill sets while they're doing it because
06:28:06.140
it's so high paying and they can't go back to a regular job and they end up getting a drug problem
06:28:10.700
and an alcohol problem in the middle of it nine out of ten times bro damn near impossible you do want to
06:28:17.420
dress how you want to dress that doesn't mean oh you can you know sexually abuse or sexually harass
06:28:23.660
do you think men that are being brought into the strip clubs to watch you do you think that they're
06:28:29.100
walking away and going i did that because that woman was empowered to take off her clothes
06:28:33.740
here we go or do you think that they're actually devaluing women no i get it i used to be that
06:28:39.340
hypocrite you know i said things that i said i would never do anything like that you know like i totally get
06:28:45.660
that but some people just want to go to the club and have a good time yeah i think most that's not
06:28:50.700
what she asked you retard well who are making those decisions are doing it because they have
06:28:55.260
they're dealing with addictions themselves i think you're worth more than taking your clothes off i
06:28:59.260
think that if you wanted now this is powerful because here's the thing see what she the and this
06:29:04.620
is what i like about candace because she she enjoys um talking to the she told me this behind
06:29:08.940
the scenes like she wants to save hoes um which is fine like that's a noble ambition this is what
06:29:14.060
she really i think this is why she does what she does to be honest with y'all is she wants to keep
06:29:18.460
she wants to get women off the stripper pole and remember guys like i you guys know what i say
06:29:23.020
you know once you're a thought it's over it's a wrap like it is what it is man with these hoes
06:29:27.660
but um people like candace right she's a woman too so she wants to save these chicks which i
06:29:31.500
understand she has a different mission like i want to save guys she wants to save women so i understand
06:29:36.060
it and this is kind of where she shines and this is why it's so important to have people like
06:29:40.620
candace because she's a woman and she could talk to them on another level right it's not gonna be
06:29:46.540
the same when i come in and say hey you're better than taking your clothes off she's gonna think i'm
06:29:49.580
like some monkey sim nigga that's trying to smash and be a nice guy it doesn't come off genuine it's
06:29:54.780
very difficult for a guy to like come in and like try to give a woman advice like this without it like
06:30:00.460
without them thinking that there's ulterior motives and here's the thing she's a stripper let's
06:30:04.220
keep it all the way a thousand strippers are used to fucking dudes being on some weird
06:30:08.380
shit so every guy that tries to act nice or whatever they're trying to finesse or get one
06:30:12.060
over so strippers are very apprehensive around men okay they don't trust men rightfully so they
06:30:17.580
do a lot of fucking scumbags a lot of underlings in the underworld go into these fucking strip club
06:30:21.500
guys strip clubs are filled with degenerate fucking losers so i get it but when someone like candace
06:30:26.860
can come in and say hey look i think you're better than that right that's powerful that's gonna have
06:30:31.420
more poency than someone like me saying that shit because you gotta think oh this thing is
06:30:34.620
trying to smash fuck this thing i don't care what you gotta say right because she's heard that all the
06:30:37.740
time oh i could save you baby oh you better than this blah blah but when another woman is saying
06:30:41.340
it that actually has some merit it's a it's it has a little bit more oomph you know what i'm saying
06:30:46.700
so this is why i say like you know there is a place for women um in the content game with helping women
06:30:55.420
like this trying to get off the pole now is she gonna get off the pole probably not but you know what
06:31:01.180
some other girl might be watching this and say damn i thought about dancing but now i'm not gonna do it
06:31:06.700
you know so that is important to have a career in music you wouldn't have to take your clothes off to
06:31:16.380
do that and i think that it's sad that you've been every story is different every story is different
06:31:22.780
but i do think that you know we can make a generalization i was at that point where i was
06:31:27.020
going to college i was working three jobs i used to be a nurse so you just even worse so you had the
06:31:33.980
ability where you had a job where you could make six figures but you still decided to be a
06:31:37.100
fucking thot even worse bro falcon punch i have even less respect for women that used to be nurses
06:31:43.420
or that dumbass lawyer had a real career and you gave that up to be a slut you took the easy way out
06:31:47.980
quite literally took the easy way out don't know the situations you don't know how life is going to
06:31:53.100
turn out it's going to get the out of here you had a six-figure job and then you decided to be a
06:31:56.860
stripper bro nobody felt that that's even less even worse that's why the jasmine the lawyer she
06:32:05.420
deserves all the fucking shit she gets because you were a lawyer and you gave up that shit to be a
06:32:09.100
whore well they make a lot of money now okay well you sold your soul cool sold your soul for feminism
06:32:16.220
you're not feeling it now because you got all these simps on you but 20 30 years from now
06:32:19.980
when that bbl starts to sag when niggas aren't checking for you no more when you're not making 100k a
06:32:24.780
month on onlyfans no more because some new bitches they're making the money what are you gonna have
06:32:30.540
cooked man cooked fatality because nobody gives a about your opinions when you're a whore
06:32:41.100
nigga that's how i be talking bro that's what i be thinking in my head when these women are over
06:32:44.300
here like trying to give their opinion and i know that they're sluts literally bro i'm like shao
06:32:48.060
con man be ups and downs but no i didn't want to do it join oss today that comes from uh mango
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old passion thank you so much guys a bunch of you guys been joining bro we might hit 1800 tonight bro
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i'll tell you all this i'll tell you all this if we hit 1800 i'll fucking go on ometv and debase
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some idf soldiers how about that chat i was going to finish this video for you guys because obviously
06:33:18.460
dpg but i'll tell you guys this if we had 1800 uh active supporters tonight and we hit 500 by the way
06:33:25.180
on uh on the discord so we're cooking baby we're cooking we got the fuck we trim the fat out those
06:33:32.460
bitch ass niggas that were saying uh pause the unpause the video right got those fucking losers
06:33:38.140
out see them niggas tomorrow time them out for 24 hours they can go to the corner and think about
06:33:41.340
what they did stupid fucks but if we had 1800 i'll go ahead and i'll uh turn on the ome tv and i'll go
06:33:47.740
to base some idf soldiers so let's go baby you guys like that uh when i debate the people in israel
06:33:53.500
so uh let's go ahead you guys got let's grab like 43 more we got 4 000 4200 you guys watch us 6 000
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fucking community we got a discord got a telegram group for the active members great community of
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guys in there fucking hilarious they post on there all the content is on oss timestamps are in there in
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every video you can watch on there you can join the chat the chat is awesome for the oss um i'm
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gonna make it where it's members only probably soon once we end the sale it's gonna be only members can
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be in there chatting because that way you guys get the discount because when you just when you send in
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the chat through oss i read your chat on air no matter what the price point is but i'll give you
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guys a taste you guys that are watching on youtube pause or rumble especially the rumble guys that's
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the oss stream go in there and look at the chat it's hilarious bro dudes post memes in there and
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everything it's fucking awesome you guys can't see it on the on the stream because obviously just
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shows the text it doesn't show the memes but go in there bro it's fucking funny i gave i gave i put it
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in there for you guys on kick rumble and uh youtube you guys can go in there completely for free go in
06:35:04.860
there see what they're see what they're saying completely for free you can engage but starting
06:35:09.340
like this week i'm gonna close out the chat making supporters only so the guys in there get the benefit
06:35:15.260
of sending in the super chats and getting them read and you know getting attention and all that other
06:35:19.100
shit like like getting my attention for polls and shit like that for the show so anyway let's keep
06:35:24.380
cooking though chat 1800 now stay on and we'll fucking debate some idf soldiers after this video
06:35:29.660
but in my situation and things that i went through uh they're making a telegram right now guys talk to
06:35:34.220
brett brett um is handling that it's something that it just but i'm actually really glad that you said no i
06:35:41.420
didn't want to do it and you were put in a situation where you had to do it because i think that's
06:35:45.340
really honest and i think the problem that i find with feminism is that it's tremendously it's a
06:35:50.620
dishonest movement all right guys pause you've been voted out by the majority thank you i'm not judging
06:36:01.980
nice to meet you nice to meet you katherine candace you brought up a book about that we're going to
06:36:07.420
biology and that biology is what we should organize society on based on like what skills sure i can
06:36:15.020
i can restate what i said there that there is a book and uh 20 likes guys i will be at 100 engagement
06:36:20.860
man smash that like button if you're watching on youtube can't join oss can't afford no problem just
06:36:25.020
smash like button support the channel man the argument that's being made is that you can't override
06:36:28.940
you can't outthink your biology is the easiest way to say it so feminism i would say is a movement
06:36:33.500
where they are trying to outthink biology meaning that all we have to do is this this this and that
06:36:39.260
and then magically we're going to be transformed that desire within us to want to start a family
06:36:43.660
is just going to like die or we're going to be happier doing this thing and i think the answer to
06:36:48.380
that is no right um i would argue that our biology does not have as much of an effect on the things that
06:36:56.620
we choose to do with our careers with our life choices as you think it does our closest ancestors are
06:37:01.500
chimps and bonobos bonobos are matriarchal chimps are patriarchal so and our previous societies have
06:37:07.660
run egalitarian for millennia it's not been this inherent desire for men to rule a certain way and
06:37:14.780
women to rule another way it has been egalitarian it's been matriarchal it's been patriarchal because
06:37:21.420
there are things that go into effect like your situation your personality that make you better
06:37:28.940
at doing something than just your biology i know many quiet nerdy men that would not be good leaders
06:37:34.460
and i know many strong women and vice versa like it does not matter as based your testosterone the
06:37:41.020
hormones you admit is not going to have as much of an effect as i think you think it does i totally
06:37:45.740
think it does and so that's why what's getting back to college since i'm i'm assuming you support women
06:37:51.500
going to college yeah can you explain why there is when they can freely choose 304 logic crazy why
06:37:58.220
there is such a difference in the majors that women choose versus the majors that men choose when they
06:38:06.380
get to college well i think it's also important to note that things are changing and there's like many
06:38:10.460
initiatives to get more women into stem to get women into higher paying career fields when women have
06:38:15.580
been kept out of these fields for so long it's the slow and steady race to get them there it's not that
06:38:19.980
women are not choosing them it's they're slowly learning that this is okay for them to choose
06:38:24.780
there's more women in stem there's more lawyers there's more women women are making upstrides to
06:38:29.900
those positions so it's not like they're sedentary and they're staying in these humanities or arts fields
06:38:35.420
i don't think you're being honest i think you know like if did you go to college i mean i'm in college
06:38:40.140
i think i know that i mean aren't it's not because they're not pressured it's because when quite
06:38:43.900
literally they say what are you interested in women flock to certain things they just do we do we as a
06:38:48.780
whole do it tends to be and this is because we are biologically wired and even when a child is born
06:38:55.260
when a woman like a female uh a child versus a male child the girls um joshua josiah montea so glad you
06:39:05.660
have four camera that was the only thing that swayed me from watching on that platform do you have any
06:39:09.180
diet plans available or fitness tips uh put yourself in a calorie deficit bro i might do an episode on
06:39:13.980
fitness for you guys on the oss uh as well for you ninjas might do something like that um
06:39:20.860
so yeah but no man i'm glad that you uh like watching on rumble yeah guys we have 4k capability
06:39:25.500
on rumble i stream on 4k on rumble and i stream 4k on youtube for you ninjas even on youtube even
06:39:30.060
though i don't get paid on there i still stream on 4k for you ninjas because i want you guys to have
06:39:34.300
a good experience dealing with the cheapskate trolls and the idiots hey man i do it for you because
06:39:39.500
look just because there's like 10 or 20 retards doesn't mean that the other tens of thousands of
06:39:43.180
you guys you know don't with the content don't with the movement so um still do it for you guys
06:39:49.420
start speaking faster and they speak more words just a fact right for the rest of their lives like
06:39:53.340
my daughter started speaking and this is not anecdotal but this is i'm giving you an anecdotal
06:39:56.780
example of something that is a real fact so there's just a biological proclivity there
06:40:00.540
that women like communication and you see that followed all the way kadeem on rumble said hey bro
06:40:05.740
keep up to go work i love what you do please start more debates i really think you have a solid
06:40:09.980
politician get some real stuff done hey man them boys will never let me get in bro them boys will
06:40:15.260
never ever ever let me get in man as an example into college women are drawn towards these careers
06:40:22.060
that are compassionate emotional and communicative which is why you'll see women flooding journalism
06:40:27.420
that's why even when you see women that are finding success they are typically in careers that
06:40:32.220
are communicative and compassionate women that will say i want to do psychology i want to do
06:40:36.460
children's all right let me read some chats real quick uh let's work towards maragena yeah and
06:40:40.300
calling it ssmg nah man no yachts bro guys i invest all that money back into the into this
06:40:46.300
into the show bro like i told you before i spent 16k um on this channel alone bro no
06:40:51.740
no like 20 000 guys spent 20 000 today on this channel guys literally today for this channel
06:41:04.140
so gonna actually 22 000 because i bought a generator i got it so last week guys you guys
06:41:09.740
know the battery ran out right last week when i was out there debating battery fucking died went down
06:41:16.220
and shit like that guess what i did i went and bought a fucking generator two thousand dollars it's the
06:41:21.180
big fucking thing so we should be able to run with no goddamn problems now let's go baby stupid no
06:41:27.180
more stupid fucking problems we gonna keep cooking falcon punch all right hey bro keep it go work love
06:41:32.700
what you do please read that one before uh big up tomorrow keep uh keep per usual keep killing it
06:41:38.380
hey i got you man this friday guys i don't think we're gonna do a debate because it's gonna be raining
06:41:51.180
dinev supports israel's help his son's political career as steps that makes sense for the dudes
06:41:55.980
complaining about you pausing just keep it 15 seconds like i do by the way i subscribe to oss thank you
06:42:00.700
uh g canto thank you so much bro yeah bro you got common sense join oss today w martin uh root
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rebellion with the funny picture bro this nigga with the fucking uh i see what you did bro uh freshers
06:42:13.820
dog all the strippers i've smashed have let me hit raw and bust a nut inside thankfully some
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number got pregnant freshest dog what the fuck nigga all right what's your thoughts on big
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beautiful bill good or terrible i'm gonna cover tomorrow hey myron just still got me banned on
06:42:28.940
your account your wife lover she told candace to devalues herself like yikes myron i know you
06:42:35.420
stream on x but will you be hosting more xpaces you fire my uh drives up while working love from cali
06:42:40.700
uh i want to do one uh one one clan meeting a week or sorry a month only for it's gonna be for oss guys
06:42:46.780
though so like you guys got um only mike's will i'll give mike's to oss guys ozzy out says the point
06:42:51.980
is why he partially defending the guy that accused him of snaking you and that you beef with that's
06:42:56.300
not how loyalty works it starts at an hour 50 minute mark june 24th upload
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i'm not gonna bother watching it bro because i i don't care i don't know why you care so much
06:43:10.780
um create cast appreciate you myron for all the hard work you put to keep us in
06:43:16.460
uh shout out to my modells gifted us up thank you bro uh for getting mordecai on the stream
06:43:22.060
bro that fucking gif is funny bro or noodles sorry every time you guys uh donate bro that
06:43:28.540
fucking mordecai nigga comes on that's funny bro okay uh
06:43:37.340
rocky says did you see the uncanny similarities between abe lincoln and jfk there's a video check
06:43:41.420
it out even the asians make retarded women they do leverage streams my brother are you able to
06:43:47.260
one day make a debate kind like alex jones i could do that hey mark give it a good work i'm gonna say
06:43:51.900
this every stream there will always be a clown in the chat trying to drive a wedge between you
06:43:55.020
and fresh by bringing up dumb shit like you two aren't different individual beliefs
06:43:59.180
those come with a dumb shit fuck them and keep doing your thing well that's interesting so you're
06:44:02.620
talking to ozzy oz i guess update from one chest cracker we got 516 in the oss discord guys
06:44:11.340
so within 24 hours of launching the fucking discord we already got 500 guys in there guys if you want
06:44:17.980
join the most based fucking discord by far the oss get in there completely free to join jump in there
06:44:25.020
ninjas um also i'm gonna make like a oss like um discord chat so when you so you guys can put like
06:44:31.900
memes and shit like there and i'll like you know maybe react to some stuff maybe maybe or no probably
06:44:36.060
for the telegram niggas but yeah discord is free just join oss you could get in bro even the asian
06:44:42.220
bitches getting fat yeah god says if you don't support you have no right to criticize my we need
06:44:46.300
merch saying fuck bans bitch ass niggas bro we might have to do that i ain't gonna lie we really
06:44:50.060
might have to do that we really might have to do that because that's annoying bro look i'm all for
06:44:56.060
constructive criticism whatever but when they can say unpause the video like unpause the video when
06:44:59.740
it's like my commentary channel that's like a big fucking slap in the face super disrespectful
06:45:04.140
so it's like like you're not even here to add to the conversation just here to troll and
06:45:08.620
fuck up the show get the fuck up out of here bro get the fuck up out of here because my thing is
06:45:13.180
like i look at the people like when you guys say stuff like criticisms or whatever or give
06:45:18.780
suggestions i literally look at that shit i'd be looking at the chat earlier somebody said yo
06:45:22.860
do the 20 verse one how do you guys think i found that because i look at the chat i look at the chat
06:45:27.900
because i do value what you guys got to say well people do disrespectful shit like that it's like
06:45:31.740
what the fuck like what because it's like guys you got to understand as a creator right like your job
06:45:37.420
you have a plan of how you want to do things so when people come in and try to tell you how to do your
06:45:40.940
job like randoms on the internet that don't even fuck with you by the way most of these people that
06:45:45.260
say this shit like they don't even watch you like that they don't really like you like that they're
06:45:48.060
just kind of coming in and talking shit um like that that's incredibly disrespectful incredibly
06:45:54.060
disrespectful that's like going to someone's restaurant and being like oh this food sucks
06:45:57.500
i want you to give me this even though i this is a chinese restaurant now i want you to give me
06:46:01.740
some jamaica nigga right and say your food sucks what the fuck get out my restaurant why are you here
06:46:06.700
there's a fucking chinese there's a fucking uh jamaican food restaurant across the street
06:46:11.020
like that's the part that's annoying you know so that's that's my thing so niggas like that get
06:46:18.060
the fuck about here because they're just spamming at that point they're trying to be funny and like
06:46:21.900
they're just spamming and her in the quiet of the show because what ends up happening is the trolls
06:46:24.460
do that shit then i stop looking at the chat then i miss all the good shit with good suggestions
06:46:28.780
why do you guys think we're gonna do 20 verse one right now chat so i'm not gonna have the rest of
06:46:34.700
you guys suffer because of a couple of retards you know what i mean where you some of you guys might
06:46:39.180
have some really fucking good ideas and we and and i miss it because some stupid niggas say some dumb
06:46:43.500
shit so yeah anyway because that's not freedom of speech that's like that well they're there to
06:46:51.820
derail the show does that make sense like they're not there in good faith if you're there to criticize
06:46:55.740
and comment on good faith fine i i'll take it all day some of you guys have said some shit in here
06:47:00.700
pisses me off but i i i'm like whatever you know what fine i'll do it yo fixed audio yo do this
06:47:06.300
blah blah i'm like all right i'm gonna make the show better fine right like i'm cool with that you
06:47:11.180
guys have seen i put the work in to make the show better but like when niggas are in there just like
06:47:14.940
derail the show and just fuck up the quality of the show and spam and do that dumb shit then bro you're
06:47:19.420
hurting the you're hurting the quality of the show for everybody else so you gotta you gotta get you
06:47:22.700
you gotta get hit with the fucking uh you know what i'm saying they're not here to add to the
06:47:29.260
stream they're here to take away so you got to get rid of the cancer because some of these
06:47:32.460
motherfuckers are cancerous bro you got to get rid of them and they'll destroy your community too
06:47:37.020
they'll destroy your community um mario 765 says w mario wdbg w castle club w oss let's go
06:47:42.780
thank you so much bro for the hundred dollars support thank you so much oh we're still rocking
06:47:48.620
on cc too i still got the stream up on castle club i was gonna turn it off earlier but uh yo
06:47:52.780
you cast club niggas you guys got to come on over to oss bro i'm not going to be doing castle club
06:47:57.100
much longer okay you guys got to come on over uh just joined oss brother that's from a mod cloud
06:48:05.740
uh if there's not to watch this like locals with cc and how do i get the discord and stuff
06:48:09.900
i'm on the link is right here uh wait no you're in here if you're if you
06:48:14.220
send the thing in through locals you're already in watching it on there
06:48:26.300
uh your wife lover says amron i joined yesterday and i'm loving it but your j mods need to stop
06:48:31.180
getting irritated if i throw up three o slash i get banned go look to see yourself these rumble
06:48:36.140
mod bros your wife lover the name guys why'd you mod up why'd you ban him for putting all
06:48:39.660
slash you can't ban niggas for putting all slash come on bro all right bro i'll unban you
06:48:44.380
nigga don't worry let me let me find you here you probably did some other bro because they never
06:48:49.180
banned niggas on rumble bro you probably did some other but i'll give you a pass i'll bring you back
06:48:54.140
even the idiots from earlier they just got banned uh i didn't even really ban them i just put them
06:48:59.340
out for 24 hours niggas can come back tomorrow they could go home and think about what they did
06:49:03.900
or just sit there in silence here i just put them youtube niggas on 360p and make them pay
06:49:11.980
ah man the freshest dog just the fresh dog don't give a about these youtube
06:49:17.260
niggas bro he's always roasted him he said put them niggas on 360p
06:49:21.820
yeah and i'm giving these niggas 4k bro and they got the nerve to talk all this i'm on here for free
06:49:25.740
and giving these niggas 4k and they got the nerve to tell me unpause the video you bro
06:49:30.460
fuck you uh big things like one said i signed up for oss as well man continue supporting you bro
06:49:35.740
thank you so much man welcome welcome bro happy to have you here on the street man for those of you
06:49:41.500
that don't know big things with one came on and talked about uh trucking man he can't he came and
06:49:45.420
talked about trucking helped out a lot of guys bro so uh shout out to you big things um put some
06:49:50.540
respect on my own especially oss i appreciate you bro thank you big things and yo the the rare the
06:49:56.140
the fair is never gonna go up guys it's gonna i'm gonna keep it always at 10 bucks man i'm gonna
06:49:59.020
keep it at a manageable price for y'all so like you guys don't even feel it the goal here is that
06:50:02.780
you guys can support without feeling it right i don't want y'all to think like damn am i gonna
06:50:06.780
pay my bill or fucking rock out with oss 10 bucks a month totally affordable like you know i mean
06:50:14.380
uh you know for the price of you uh getting a burrito pretty much uh and you get like a whole
06:50:21.660
bunch of entertainment and you know learn and support the mission and everything else like that
06:50:25.020
so i uh fuck with you guys i love you guys so much uh telegram coming soon from one chest all
06:50:29.500
right thank you one chest so guys for those of you that are wondering about the telegram it's coming
06:50:32.540
up soon coming up very very soon uh one chest just let me know one of my one of my guys
06:50:39.420
the shizness says put some respect on my own especially though says absolutely man yeah i love
06:50:43.100
when you guys shit on the fucking youtube niggas bro that shit is funny see like this
06:50:47.340
bitch ass nigga john uh john john johnson says move on bro shut the fuck up nigga is this your
06:50:53.260
stream john johnson huh you fucking retard you got the same name twice you stupid fuck
06:50:59.820
you got the same name twice but you don't think twice before you say dumb
06:51:02.300
shit in the fucking chat like you're saying right now
06:51:04.620
fucking bum holy shit man and then some other nigga bro you repeat yourself so much that's it
06:51:11.820
shut the fuck up nigga you can also shut the fuck up psychology and so even at the same time that
06:51:18.620
women are saying that they're running away from their biology so to speak they are still
06:51:22.620
exhibiting that they very much believe in these no i'm not gonna ban those idiots bro you guys can
06:51:28.780
just roast them you guys can roast them in the chat niggas name is john johnson and some other
06:51:32.300
uh what's the other idiot's name uh kobe 80 uh 0808 so john johnson and kobe 0808 you guys
06:51:42.540
could go ahead and cook them man i i'll just i've got to deal with those stupid niggas you guys could just
06:51:46.860
fry them falcon punch determined biological characteristics that i think are something
06:51:53.100
that's just never going to go away right but i would also bring up that the the way that women
06:51:58.220
are young girls are given dolls young boys are put in sports these things that kids learn at a very
06:52:04.620
early age are very impactful in what children like and pursue in the future it's not simply that
06:52:11.180
i don't think there's a biological gene that women like fashion and men don't that's why we do see
06:52:16.300
men in fashion that's why there's actually at the top of all these fashion houses a lot of men are
06:52:20.460
in successful positions in fashion um the way in which you teach the children to explore creativity
06:52:26.380
and to play and what we put women and we put women in pink rooms and little girls in pink rooms and
06:52:31.820
boys in blue that has an effect so and i'll tell you why i disagree and i know because i had my children
06:52:36.780
back to back that there was there yeah you're a wife lover you're not banned bro i just looked you up
06:52:41.420
you're not banned at all there's a blur here so i never had to separate them and say you play with this you
06:52:45.740
play with that they were growing up with their toys i mean one year apart my daughter and my son
06:52:50.380
they just are interested in different things and this is one of the i think lies of feminism and when
06:52:55.180
you actually have children there may be some exceptional child but i am telling you my boy's
06:52:59.580
first word was car he is obsessed with trucks he's obsessed with cars i did not do that i do not like
06:53:03.740
i don't like having to answer his questions about cars i don't like having to answer his questions
06:53:07.340
about trucks because my biological proclivities are not designed i i'm just not feeling
06:53:12.540
passionate about engineering wanting to know how everything works you don't recognize that is
06:53:17.020
inherently a male trait this is why men are mostly engineers and most men build everything in the in
06:53:21.820
society women don't that's just an uncomfortable reality that no one wants to accept is that and
06:53:26.300
this is i think one of the worst harms of feminism because i was a feminist when i was in college or i
06:53:30.300
at least thought i agreed with the movement because you don't have the family yet so when they make
06:53:34.620
these arguments that you're making you think that that's real you think oh well it's just because
06:53:38.620
you're not giving the child the barbie doll that they don't love barbie dolls and that's not a
06:53:42.540
reality that we are just quite literally different there are many i'm so sorry time is up
06:53:50.380
all right candace will now choose a feminist debate for 10 minutes on the claim of their choosing
06:53:57.740
i am going to choose jenny to have a further conversation with because i thought that it was
06:54:01.980
a respectful dialogue and i want people yeah unlike these other retards to be able to learn from the
06:54:07.260
differences and i think she is probably the best equipped person to get that done
06:54:15.740
my claim is that i believe feminism is wrongly interpreted as anti-men when it benefits both men
06:54:22.140
and women it's a great claim i like that claim all right feminism is wrongly interpreted as anti-men
06:54:28.300
when it benefits both men and women well here's the thing she's actually correct in a degree because
06:54:34.380
feminism was originally created for equality between the genders but what quickly happened
06:54:39.820
is it became for supremacy of one gender that's the problem because the the definition of what
06:54:46.700
feminism actually is is no longer adhere to today thank you okay so i think that in today's environment
06:54:56.220
when you look at the messaging that's coming out from self-proclaimed feminists it's very much an f
06:55:03.100
men men can't do anything women can do bad all by themselves sort of colloquial messaging which i think
06:55:09.820
is harmful to men and to women i have seen examples of people that i truly do think are more old school who
06:55:18.700
don't do that but i think in 2025 we've landed on the side of this it's being it is i think rising to
06:55:24.940
a level of just being anti-men which is not what i think it was supposed to be aspirationally okay um
06:55:30.700
in response to that i would just like to say i think that in all ideologies and beliefs there is a
06:55:35.020
spectrum right and and on either side there's going to be a radical point of view i do understand how
06:55:41.820
it may come across as negative when women say things like i hate all men or f men this f men that
06:55:49.420
but i'm also as a woman not going to fault other women for having that perspective and fear because
06:55:56.060
unfortunately our greatest predator is men our greatest harm does come from men and therefore
06:56:02.940
when women have experienced violence from men when women have experienced oppression from men
06:56:08.380
i'm not going to fault them for feeling that way and expressing such i think the onus does rely more
06:56:14.460
on men for acknowledging that these issues do exist it is harming women and unfortunately a lot of men
06:56:21.420
don't listen to women and they actually would rather listen to well she's right about that and here's the
06:56:26.940
thing there's a very like there's a very honest reason why men don't listen to women the reason why men
06:56:33.100
don't listen to women is because women simply don't understand the male experience and they don't
06:56:37.500
understand male struggle at all right like at least as a man right you can dispense advice to a woman
06:56:45.100
and it's somewhat reciprocal but like as a as a woman when you're dispensing advice to a man
06:56:50.940
like that's like telling somebody that's like a professional gamer oh look okay i'll give you guys
06:56:55.020
an example of what i mean here let's go into a situation right so a woman dispensing a man advice is like
06:57:03.820
is like uh a rookie right like a rookie nba player trying to tell like mj how to shoot a fade away you
06:57:12.540
know i mean like they simply don't have the prerequisite experience and they don't understand
06:57:17.100
that we're playing on different levels right i'm at the all-star game you're at the rookie
06:57:22.540
fucking sophomore game we're not playing at the same level whatsoever i'm playing the game on hard
06:57:27.740
mode i'm playing literally on veteran difficulty you're playing on recruit so the advice that you
06:57:34.940
give is not going to help me if anything is going to fuck me up because you have access and um the
06:57:43.020
ability to traverse certain situations in a way that i'll never be able to you're able to get into
06:57:48.300
rooms that i'll never be able to get into right like when women sit there and say oh i'm a good
06:57:52.940
networker bitch that's not a flex like women guys here's a big red pill for you guys let me
06:57:58.700
let me give you guys a huge red pill average women are able to get into rooms with a-list celebs like
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that you understand if you want to meet future as a man you need to be a fucking somebody where he's
06:58:15.180
like meeting you on an equal footing like he'll talk to you and you're not not on some fan
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shit you need to be an artist you need to be a a musician you got to be an athlete you got to be
06:58:23.580
a somebody for him to come up to you and dab you up and say hey what's up i fuck with you you have to
06:58:28.300
be a guy like you have to be that nigga as a bitch you just exist and you could be at a section and talk
06:58:35.580
to him with no accomplishments so in other words a bitch with no future can mute future and then
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potentially get a future with future right meanwhile if you don't got a future you ain't
06:58:54.060
gonna see future which will mean you got no future that's the difference damn son where'd you find this
06:58:59.820
so we're not the same at all so the reason why men don't listen to women is because it doesn't make
06:59:04.540
sense for us to listen to them it just doesn't it doesn't benefit us
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now are there some women out there that could give you advice and help you of course there's
06:59:18.780
a few there's gonna be women out there that could do it right but very hard to find
06:59:24.700
very hard to find she's gonna have to be in a niche and be really good at what she does to
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be able to actually advise you as a man so jing if we can get past the idea of oh this feels like
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it's attacking my character like i feel like feminism is attacking me as a man then i think
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that we can have a much more productive discussion and move forward in making sure that this society is
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better for everybody and i do believe that feminism benefits men as well i think that's also misunderstood
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and misinterpreted in that when we hear that instantly we turn off we don't want to listen
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right but when we look at historically what feminism does joey bank said you should call the
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21 verse show uh 20v1 show the thought roulette it has a nice ring to it as always love your streams
07:00:08.940
i never miss one and i plan on joining the oss soon brother if you need a graphic designer to help
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you out with the channel hit me up nigga you just donated five bucks you could have just spent four
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why do you guys think i made four bucks for you guys to join
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nigga spent five bucks you could have spent four and got in
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all right but thank you for the suggestion mate i'll find i'll find something to call it because
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maybe calling a 20 verse one might be too too too crazy bro that might be too crazy
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it's actually trying to bring women at an equal level to men given the same opportunities and
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options as men and also not receive the same judgment that men do for the same actions and so i believe
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that when men are exposed to more female role models when men are exposed to more feminine or feminist
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leaning women they actually have higher quality of life they have deeper conversations that they can
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have with their loved ones all the men that i know in my life are feminists and it is
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look bro i'll be honest with you guys the most masculine men don't like to talk to women bro
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let's just let's just call a spade a spade bro let's be really honest here
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the guys that i know that got their together they're in good shape did real
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shit whatever make money successful masculine guys they don't enjoy talking to women or being
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around women like that bro bro women are a liability man they're a liability being around them all the
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time is not in your best interest they it really isn't at all like and honestly any guy that sits
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there and says like i enjoy the company of women you you should be careful you should be careful
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if you meet a guy bro you meet a dude and he says oh yeah i enjoy the company of women bro
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that is no fucking bueno you should watch yourself run that nigga bro that's the type of guy that will
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sit there and be like lurking you know talking about you know how we can you know talk he'll
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that's the type of nigga that will sit there and talk with your girl about you right he'll sit there
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and like be like the cold shoulder or sorry the the warm shoulder to cry on and shit bro always be
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weary of guys you got to be aware of two things you got to be aware of niggas that can't that can't
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attract women and simps and you also have to be very weary of guys that enjoy female company
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very weird dudes that enjoy female company okay like outside of sex i mean because let's be honest
07:03:14.540
bro outside of sex it's like why are you even why are you even talking to this bitch bro let's be
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honest here like come on man it's because they are feminists that we all have a beautiful community
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and beautiful friendships yeah so i would actually even expand it to say that not only is feminism
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hostile to men but it's also very hostile to women and i think you saw a lot of an example of that
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today where there seems to be a reaction when a woman says children are beautiful it's like oh my
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god how dare you say that like having a child and it's like why is there this instant reaction to
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people that are traditional and you see that when we have a society which is really kind of being
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dominated by what i would call like this hyper sexual character like the kim kardashian prototype of
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feminism weighed against the other extreme which would be like the lena dunham types who are coming
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out lena dunham's much more the f men forever kim kardashian is kind of the when i was saying like
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come get everything for free you know that's sort of a model and i think both of them reject
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tradition in a way that there's a little bit of hatred there for women who don't want to climb the
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ladder and work 45 hours a week for a small paycheck and who actually aspire to marriage there
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they think that there's something intrinsically backwards about that they think that there's
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something wrong with women who are wholesome and happy and they instantly try to problematize that
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and i'd say one of the greatest cultural examples of that today was like the feminist attack on
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ballerina farm which just kind of came out of nowhere it was so weird like we have uh wheeler hardcore
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no limit fans join oss no limit like master p bro curtis leon i guess just don't i mean what the
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fuck that's a random ass question i have an example of every feminist on the cover of everything and
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it's like but no this woman can't have 10 million followers she's not allowed to have 10 million
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followers we have to take her down and that to me that to me is the greatest example of what modern
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feminism has become because they pretend it's about choice but in reality they want every woman
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to enter the workforce and to pretend that they're happy in the workforce from a nine to five job trying
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to compete with men and i i think if people are being honest the overwhelming majority of women
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are doing that because of financial power not because they're really happy and that's why they're
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binge drinking on the weekends and okay i disagree with that i think that feminism just gives women
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options and if you want to be a stay-at-home like wife and you want to be a trad wife that's fine
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feminism is not in my opinion i think a lot of other people agree with me feminism is not the belief
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that you can't do those things and we're trying to convince women that they they have to work
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i believe that feminism is if you want to work go do so the thing is is that she she has the um
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original definition the correct definition but the problem is that it's not practiced that way
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anymore that's the issue do that go get that bag you know shout out to auntie ferrella with the
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gifted sub appreciate you moon says uh how do you think sir major is surviving a job maybe a zoomer
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phone call on stream one day uh you're funny bro this nigga moon is funny yo he's probably bro
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i think a federal prison bro for fraud man stupid ass fbas man you know but if you don't and you
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want to be a stay-at-home wife then there shouldn't be consequences for doing that and i think the whole
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ballerina farm discussion is kind of highlighting some of the consequences we see a woman who wanted
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to be a ballerina but gave up that passion and dreamed to be a mother and i don't think that it's
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wrong to want both i think that you can i think there's value in being a mother i think there's value in
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having a family right i work with kids all the time as a swim teacher i love kids but at the same
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time i don't want to have to choose between kids and my career path she didn't choose and that's
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another thing is they just keep rejecting her answering this question a thousand times
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of course when you're young and before you have kids the things that i wanted to do aspirationally
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has radically transformed from now that i'm married it suddenly everything came into focus and
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really i understand that family is what it's all about it's like you have your first kid and you
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just you change entirely your focus changes and i do find exactly what you're saying is that even when
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she herself says this is what i wanted i was not forced to give up you know that's what i wanted when
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it was just me in my life and i went to julio and i did what i wanted to do and i danced as a ballerina
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and then my husband moved to support me as a ballerina and then i got pregnant and it when you have a child
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your entire world changes instantly in a moment and it's hard to describe that to someone who
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doesn't have a childhood because when i was there i didn't understand it either so i actually would
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have agreed more with you until that moment happens you don't get it um and so what i'm saying is that
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to see people constantly try to problematize her life when she's like i have eight kids now it's like
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not only do i love kids i have eight of them and i'm i didn't increase the volume like that guys that
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is um that is um these guys over at uh jubilee i guess curtis leon says yeah hell yeah silk the
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shocker mia x kane and abel c murder i don't think you saw my super chat about carmelo
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no i didn't join oss nigga and i wouldn't miss it uh king lejeune subscribe welcome to the oss brother
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uh big things i truly appreciate what you do bro the dedication is motivating and by the way for you to be
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a somebody and still be who you are is exactly what i respect the hell out of you i appreciate
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that big things i really really appreciate that man and thank you so much for coming on the show
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and helping out with the truck we need to do a part two uh whatever you say man my conscience
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is clear anyways without going too far into detail what is a cookie monster ozzy oz my friend you need
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to uh you need to join the oss if you don't know what the cookie monster is bro your wife lover
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wmr thank you for the unban and literally some mods banned me for no reason but keep killing the game
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with your content uh fam o slash o slash all day i got you my friend like i said bro i don't have
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a problem with you guys talking in your chat blah blah blah just don't spam they're hard to quiet of
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the show and we're good right but when these niggas say the dumb like unpause that hurts the
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quiet of the show bro absolutely hurts the quiet of the show because now now i can't get my commentary
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because niggas are being stupid does that make sense oh bro don't over bro it's like niggas then
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why are you watching my video then go watch the original the original is there like you don't need
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me then why are you here like you're on my channel watching my shit which means you're here for my
07:09:29.900
commentary you're trying to get me to not do what i'm supposed to do like i don't want you here get
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the fuck out of here because i can't even do my job now that's not free speech like you're
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fucking up the show you know i mean it's free speech until you start fucking up the show for
07:09:43.660
everybody else then at that point you got to get out of here you know what i'm saying uh
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cooking and i'm going to school and i'm bringing them with me to ireland
07:10:03.100
and the attacks on the trad y culture it just shows you that there is fundamentally a hatred
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for tradition and i think that hatred is being bred into women and and guys it sucks because i don't
07:10:13.180
want to fucking time people out or ban them but it's like i'm looking at it like okay i either a
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let the trolls control the chat and ruin the quality of the show or b get rid of those niggas
07:10:24.780
so it's healthy discourse in the chat and healthy comments and healthy um like criticisms or whatever
07:10:31.180
like i'm not going to ban people for like saying like oh yo um fix this or yo here's a suggestion
07:10:37.340
whatever well people are saying like unpause the shit when this is a commentary channel that's
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literally what i do where i fucking react to content get my commentary explain things etc that
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literally inhibits what i'm here to do and then and then and then people the thing with trolls is
07:10:50.860
like they love to like uh they're like cancer they like to spread so you gotta fucking like nip it in
07:10:55.660
the butt and get rid of those niggas immediately because they will fuck up your community fuck up your
07:10:58.540
chat so and fuck up your your your shit because then you can't even effectively do what you want
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to do because niggas are in there spamming bullshit so it's a balance where i can either a let trolls take
07:11:10.140
over the chat and then i don't look at the chat and then everybody suffers or b trim out the fat get rid of the
07:11:14.780
trolls get rid of the cancer so that i can so i'm looking at the chat and i can like quickly see
07:11:19.980
like what the fuck is going on so it's it's a very delicate balance man of maintaining some semblance
07:11:25.100
of uh freedom of speech of course right which i believe in but at the same time running it in a way
07:11:29.980
where uh people aren't coming in and trolling just to get a to get a reaction or hurt in the
07:11:35.820
quad of the show because at the end of the day if these niggas come in and troll and hurt the quad
07:11:39.580
of the show everybody loses and then on top of that not only does everybody lose like i'm not going to
07:11:44.220
look at the chat and like see your guys's feedback from like legitimate people that are actually
07:11:47.980
trying to like make the show better there's some other people that just want to be cancer and like
07:11:51.580
fuck everything up so that's kind of where you have to find a fine balance between moderating it so that
07:11:58.460
you can have a good community and be able to um do the show uh but at the same time like level
07:12:05.660
like allowing some levels of speech like niggas in the chat talk shit about me all the time that's
07:12:09.180
fine i don't have a problem with that it's when they say oh unpause unpause and shit like that
07:12:12.780
that and it's like bro this is my shit this this is what i'm supposed to do right and then they
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spam it it's like all right now you guys are fucking being retarded so yeah anyway like the
07:12:21.660
nigga before l johnson john johnson right saying bro well some some other he said some shit about
07:12:25.980
repeating yourself i don't even ban him i said bro fuck you nigga like um i'm gonna let the chat
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shit on you look some idiot right now just commented unpause stop yapping right i could ban this
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bitch ass nigga right now but you know what i'm gonna do i'm gonna let you guys roast him
07:12:39.580
because this guy automated intelligence i'm putting your name out there in the youtube chat
07:12:43.340
guarantee you're not a member of oss guarantee you're a fucking retard guarantee you probably
07:12:47.820
have brillo pad for hair guarantee you probably live on section eight guarantee you're a fucking
07:12:53.100
ebt executive right talking all that shit you bum ass nigga i'm gonna let the chat roast you
07:12:59.580
because guys like you hurt the quiet of the chat for everybody else so i'm just gonna let them cook you
07:13:02.700
bro i'm in and ultimately when you find those women at 50 who have chased their careers it has
07:13:10.460
been my experience the poorest niggas got the most to say bro every single time poorest niggas got the
07:13:14.780
most to say experience and they don't have family that they suffer from tremendous unhappiness if
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they've missed that window of opportunity to start a family i mean i would like to disagree with that
07:13:25.580
point that feminism is hating on the trad wife life i think there is a misrepresentation of that life
07:13:32.540
that's being fed to people for example people like nara smith and ballerina farm are they are social
07:13:38.540
media content creators that is their job right so it's not that they're just a stay-at-home mom content
07:13:43.660
creation itself as i'm sure you're aware is also a job right so they are not actually fully trad wives
07:13:49.820
they also are working and on top of that they are marketing this lifestyle that is not attainable by
07:13:56.060
everybody it's not feasible and i think you agree with this too to be spending eight hours cooking
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like i don't know chocolate chip cookies from scratch where you've harvested the cocoa yourself
07:14:05.820
you know what i mean and it's not feasible in our current economic system right and maybe that's what
07:14:12.060
people want and that's great and i don't think feminism is the one that's telling you you shouldn't
07:14:15.740
want this i disagree with that strongly i think feminism is telling you that if you want to pursue
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that that's great that's for you i've never had a feminist i didn't find a problem with the trad wives
07:14:25.820
and and that's my point is that it's yeah well you're meeting one now here i think i don't know
07:14:31.100
as soon as i said something traditional everyone rejected i said you get more you will get more purpose
07:14:36.540
and i think joy from raising you get joy from raising a child and everyone acted like when i said you
07:14:41.260
get joy from having a child like i had stabbed them in the chest well like guys it's more about
07:14:45.740
we just like understand that children are like it's a good no and i i don't think any of us here hate
07:14:51.580
kids i think i think the point is it's not about oh i've mentioned something traditional and this is
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the the reaction that i'm getting from it it's that it's almost like you're making an assumption that
07:15:04.700
this applies to everybody i i do i am making a generalization and i am and that's what people are
07:15:10.540
reacting to if the majority of women did not invest time to start a family women would be
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miserable and i think that recognizing that when women start to like the biological clock is real
07:15:22.060
and women start to recognize that they spend so much time trying to climb a ladder and they maybe
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don't find a partner and it's harder to find a partner now because as i said we have devalued
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ourselves by giving up sex so freely i do see that there is an increase in those types of women who
07:15:36.460
are relying on drugs to make them happy whether they're right but not not everybody wants marriage
07:15:41.340
and not everybody wants a relationship overwhelmingly yeah they they bro that is the biggest cap ever
07:15:47.340
guys let me tell y'all son women will sit there and cope and say oh women don't want a relationship
07:15:52.380
or uh you know i'm single by choice that is a lie when women sit there and say i'm single by choice
07:15:57.740
that's like the equivalent to you saying oh yeah i masturbate by choice i'm asking i could go get a
07:16:02.140
bunch of bad bitches but i masturbate by choice let's be honest it's not that you niggas are
07:16:06.060
masturbating by choice you guys are masturbating by by you must because you can't get a bitch
07:16:10.780
okay so women sit there and try to tell you oh yeah i'm single by choice yeah okay and i'm fapping
07:16:14.700
for choice get the out of here man one of the biggest copes women give bro okay women biggest lies
07:16:21.420
ever do want the safety of a relationship and a happy home and i think that feminism lies to you and
07:16:27.020
tells you that you don't until it's too late and that's that is what i do a lot of work trying to get
07:16:30.860
women to understand yeah no and i understand that you're you're trying sorry i'm sorry that's time
07:16:35.660
i do apologize you have people who are coming because they want to create a social media moment
07:16:41.420
and these are always i've done so many events the most fresh um ozzy why do you think dan
07:16:45.820
bozerian lives with so many women then just imagine the amount of brainless word salad yap and you
07:16:49.100
listen to all day they literally talk all the all they literally all talk at the same time like turkeys
07:16:54.460
um dan doesn't live with women anymore bro he gave that up he don't with with like that
07:16:58.140
no more he's he's on a bigger and better things bro um and honestly even back then when he used
07:17:04.540
to have them all around he would do it for shoots bro but like bro he's he's like me man like you
07:17:08.220
don't like being around these bitches man they're stupid man frustrating things because nobody's
07:17:12.460
learning and i also think it's something that women that are young need to come to terms with or
07:17:18.540
they're going to end up on the other side and be miserable and be popping pills like a lot of women who
07:17:22.620
bought into the illusion of feminism did so it was frustrating but also people can see like how
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many times i just couldn't there's a lot to speak it is important to interrupt conservatives specifically
07:17:34.940
conservatives like candace because once you do that their fallacies will show themselves today it felt
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like one conservative 19 cisgender mainstream feminist and the weird queer person just kind
07:17:48.620
of hanging out we absolutely are part of the feminist movement and i hope the mainstream gets
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that one day i think that candace herself is a great example that you can do both and when you have
07:18:00.940
a society and a culture just because you can doesn't mean it's probable and this is the problem that
07:18:05.980
these women don't get bro like now everybody's oh you can make it to the nba but are niggas gonna
07:18:11.340
make it to the nba no all these think they're gonna make it to the nba no no god damn sure that
07:18:21.020
encourages women to do what they want how they want in a way that is because being able to do it all is
07:18:26.220
the equivalent to like making it to the nba for a dude bro safe and healthy for these women healthy you
07:18:31.340
will see that women can do it all as she said and be happy i don't yeah okay okay bro i think that you
07:18:38.700
have to choose between having and incredible all right niggas uh let's see here what do you guys uh
07:18:44.540
let's see what we got here we got um oh we did the kennedy video that was a banger video by the way
07:18:58.940
let's see here uh pbd what he's got to say about candace um guys let's see here um we are at 1781
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guys we're 20 away from hitting 1800 join the oss my ninjas and we will have eight we'll hit 1800
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tonight and i will jump on ome tv i'll give you guys 15 minutes so we'll react to this video right
07:19:21.340
here i was going to get off after the candidature but i'll do you guys a solid let's see what he's
07:19:26.060
saying here about this uh thing when you guys sent me this clip so let's see uh in regards
07:19:32.540
she talks about it i think courtesy on said how much is osss nigga have you been here bro i said i
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swear some of y'all niggas retarded bro how many times have i told you it's four bucks man
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it's four bucks bro i'm running a special i'm running a special see now everybody's
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going to be bad at you because now i got to run that again see now i got to run that again
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i'm just kidding i won't run that right now it was yesterday if i'm not mistaken an episode
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yesterday about a phone call she got out of nowhere from the president about somebody okay and i want to
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play this clip for you go ahead rob and play this clip here's candace talking about a phone call she
07:20:07.340
got from the white house go ahead rob and i get another message that's like hey keep your phone
07:20:12.780
up yeah a couple of you guys asked for this so i got you ninjas on and anyways this phone call
07:20:18.620
is coming from florida pick up the phone and lo and behold
07:20:26.380
you know so here's what happened i i uh i'm i'm negotiating this thing i'm negotiating ukraine and
07:20:33.020
russia you wouldn't believe how many how many parts of heart it is president donald j trump he
07:20:38.620
is calling me and in true president trump fashion he jumps right into the narrative no we're not hey
07:20:44.620
how you do he just like jumps right into the narrative negative say hello exactly how this went down
07:20:49.820
i am literally i it is hard to catch my breath to comprehend that four days ago i'm ending a series
07:20:57.420
about brigitte macron and for and now i'm speaking to the president united states and the topic of
07:21:02.540
conversation no matter which way you want to slice it it's about macron's wife's penis i mean there's
07:21:07.740
no other way to say it right anyways i have macron i like macron we're speaking at the white house and
07:21:13.100
i'm walking him to his car and you know he says to me mr president can i speak to you for a second i
07:21:20.380
say of course you can speak to me about anything what's going on and more current wants to have a
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little sidebar and then macron says to him mr president do you know candace owens and i say
07:21:30.540
yes yes of course i know okay so what's going on and he continues his narrative he tells me
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that emmanuel macron is requesting to his face that i stop speaking about his wife and one of the things
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trump said is like you know he tells me you know she's old and this is really really impacting her
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and then he said you know that's why she slapped that in the face probably oh i saw her you know
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because i saw her up close and she looks like a woman to me she looks like a woman to me i i had
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dinner with her at the top of the eiffel tower and i um explained to him that she has had this
07:22:08.300
amazing doctor who specializes in transgenderism surgeries or feminization procedures i'm talking
07:22:14.460
the president of the state about this guys this is crazy this is wacky and i said to trump and i
07:22:20.300
will be honest that okay so at that moment i realized that one day this is going to this point
07:22:24.060
so uh uh vinnie your thoughts on this so this is kind of saying that trump called
07:22:29.820
her to say macron is asking to pump the brakes because we're trying to do deals and hey you know
07:22:35.340
candace can you give candace a call your thoughts on this comment listen with all due respect and you
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know i absolutely love candace but you don't go talking about a private call from the president
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united states i don't care if it's trump i don't care if it's biden i don't care if it's freaking
07:22:49.420
ronald reagan's ghost okay that's just not loose lips it's just it's just weak character like if you're
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if you're leaking conversations or or click or or whatever like it's not you can't trust someone who's
07:23:02.620
willing to expose stuff like that like she and and i don't know that's it's not a good look because
07:23:08.460
like for instance do you think they're ever gonna anybody's gonna ever have a conversation just
07:23:14.060
with whatever it is whatever it is with candace with with that information coming out yeah they're
07:23:18.220
they're not gonna trust her um i wonder if she asked if she could even probably not yeah i mean
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people are going to be reluctant to call her that's a fact that's true yeah do you honestly think would
07:23:31.340
you trust would you trust first of all let me ask this question do you do you believe that phone
07:23:35.580
call happened i think she said the rob what was exactly oh no i believe that phone call happened
07:23:39.900
i 100 believe that phone call happened 100 believe that phone call happened
07:23:48.620
she said sometime in february so you're talking about 30 days after inauguration january 20th i think
07:23:54.860
she says the phone call happened uh third week of february the question is do you believe the call
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happened yes okay two uh so you believe the phone call happened that president trump called my opinion
07:24:05.740
yes okay you believe that it's too it's too um candace doesn't strike me as a type of person to lie
07:24:12.460
about some shit like that and then also it like she's met him before she she's a she's probably the
07:24:17.500
biggest female conservative creator has a mass amount of influence yeah bro 100 he will call her
07:24:23.180
i yeah i think so now i'm shocked that he called her direct though i ain't gonna lie i am shocked that he
07:24:28.220
called her direct i thought he would have one of his aides call her some shit like that but yeah
07:24:33.980
too easy to deny right it's like we never talked to adam you believe that that the phone call happened
07:24:39.500
i do do you want me to get my feedback but the second thing is is there anything wrong with her
07:24:46.940
publicly sharing a phone call that i guess the second question when this do you think she asked
07:24:53.340
permission from the trump to publicly talk about the phone no hell no i was gonna ask if she asked
07:24:58.300
that's what i was gonna say next but i'm like probably not then he wouldn't have allowed that
07:25:01.660
it's appropriate for her to publicly talk about that becomes a question adam your thoughts
07:25:06.380
well it depends on what the phone call basically encompassed if he said keep this between us or not
07:25:11.180
but candace has an opportunity to basically make friends with trump or make enemies with trump if elon
07:25:16.220
musk is an enemy of trump at this point you better believe candace might be in her sights
07:25:21.180
now what you what you don't see in that clip sparks 84 said oss annual member is there a way to donate
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oss memberships yeah there is um yo one chest can you post a picture real quick uh for castle club
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clan niggas bro what kind of name is that bro niggas name is castle called clan with the case
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yo one chest can you show him how to how to donate uh subs on there for some brokies
07:25:45.580
welcome to the team by the way uh sparks 84 that's a funny ass name niggas name is
07:25:50.140
castle club can with the kkk bro what the is the reason that emmanuel crone asked that of trump
07:25:58.140
was because basically it was it was you know we've heard the quid pro quo thing before
07:26:03.340
he said listen if you want my help in ending the russia ukraine war i'd need a favor from you have
07:26:10.940
candace who has made it her life's work of dismantling my wife's husband whatever body parts
07:26:17.100
if you really want me to go all in and help save literally millions of lives do me a favor
07:26:23.100
and make a call to her and see if she can just chill out because no matter who you are no matter
07:26:27.260
what you i know they censor a cease and desist letter you do we all have emotions we all have
07:26:31.580
feelings everything's interpersonal relationships we just talked about how trump bro she can't go to
07:26:35.820
france i'll tell you that and musk fell out because of personal relationship do you believe that
07:26:41.420
uh macron maybe said something to trump about hey this woman has made her life's work about my
07:26:47.420
wife being a man i totally believe that happened so but i also if trump never told her don't say
07:26:53.580
anything i'm actually understand why candace will say this i'll say one last thing
07:26:58.620
making a documentary about emmanuel macron's wife or ending the ukraine russia war
07:27:04.700
to me it's not even a conversation you end the war but candace in another clip said that she said i
07:27:09.900
didn't know what to do so do you know who she said she called she said she called tucker who she doesn't
07:27:15.500
really speak with but he got it she got his advice free speech advice she said at the time i was pregnant
07:27:20.780
with my fourth child i believe i was emotional and i tend to be hot-headed wink wink i do believe that
07:27:26.300
she's been infected by the ids israel derangement syndrome brah come on adam come on adam
07:27:36.220
come on man the idf is killing kids every day bro
07:27:42.140
like you did they're killing the idf is literally killing kids every day adam come on bro but i don't
07:27:48.700
totally understand oh guys chat you know what oss niggas i'm gonna ask you guys matter of fact
07:27:54.140
because i love you guys oss guys um they want me to go on her take you guys want me to go or not
07:28:00.140
what do you think yay or nay i'll do a poll for you guys on there oss niggas assemble yo i need to get
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the sound effect i'm gonna get to get sound effect right now thundercats assemble or some
07:28:12.220
shitter oss niggas assemble um i'm gonna do a poll for you guys oss niggas
07:28:41.820
i know it's it's this youtube channel right here
07:28:47.260
oh actually we still got to react to one of it um adam battling anna kasperian i know it's a pbd
07:28:58.060
i want to put this one it's a it's a brand new channel uh 52.8k they made it like when did they
07:29:03.740
make this thing it's kind of like the view but like a more i guess not liberal version i guess
07:29:11.980
they made it a month ago yeah they made it a month ago
07:29:18.140
so yeah it's uh it's it's uh it's a part of the value tainment family i think yeah yeah yeah so you
07:29:22.060
got pbd you got oh amy got her own channel okay value tainment short clips and then the original
07:29:31.500
i don't know i'll i'll see what you uh i'll put the poll up for you guys on um
07:29:36.220
i'll put the poll for you guys on uh what's it called
07:29:42.620
understand why she's putting that out there for clips for views all right uh this
07:29:46.780
bitch ass nigga duke said he said oss simps chat you guys know what to do
07:29:52.060
you know i'm not gonna ban this nigga just roast him you guys know what to do
07:29:55.020
bitch ass nigga said oss simps i get that your body get cooked boy this will lead to ending the
07:30:00.620
russia ukraine war and we can uh refocus the conversation not on emmanuel but i don't think
07:30:06.460
i don't think she said i don't think she said that she's changing her position the fact that she's
07:30:13.100
talking about this that's bringing it back up so i don't think this is gonna put an end to any of
07:30:18.140
it it is back surface that people are talking we haven't talked about this and by the way
07:30:22.620
you want to know what's crazy i actually think she's right about macron me too i actually think
07:30:28.140
that that and i'm not even i'm not even taking a position that i think that was one of the you know
07:30:33.340
better jobs of investigation work that's happened the last couple years and i think i even remember
07:30:38.540
we've had a ufc fight the first time she was reading telling us about it backstage but but the
07:30:43.900
but the challenge becomes that phone call and adam to add to what you just said right there
07:30:50.220
i don't think this gets her closer to uh elan because she's also been very critical of elan
07:30:55.180
and trump so i don't think it's going to be all of a sudden getting there yeah elan is a bitch
07:30:59.980
bitch ass nigga man all right put the poll up for you guys on um i put the poll up for you guys on uh
07:31:10.780
i'll put in the chat for you guys right now poll is out ninjas
07:31:15.900
in the chat this position here so number one um i have a couple thoughts man if the president
07:31:22.540
united states calls you and he's speaking about that i i don't think you talk about it on the air
07:31:28.860
unless you had some sort of uh um and only supporters can vote on it only supporters
07:31:36.300
framework active supporters right and say mr president appreciate the call and everything
07:31:41.340
you know you know i'm i'm very public and i'm very out there talking about many things
07:31:45.500
if i was to mention this um yeah i would prefer you didn't you can do what you want candace but i
07:31:51.500
would prefer you didn't i think you ask about that uh we've we've had all kinds of celebrities i agree
07:31:58.380
i think asking is is obviously the best policy and all kinds of uh shoot heavy hitting major
07:32:05.100
political people that have said things behind the scenes um would we have liked would you have
07:32:10.140
liked to gone out and say things hey folks in the insurance industry the following the following following
07:32:14.940
might help us out yeah but we respect what's called confidence and i i i just don't think with a
07:32:21.340
sitting president unless you've got a conversation there and an understanding that um that you say
07:32:27.580
anything now then i think she's right about macron's um husband wife and she's not the only one but her
07:32:36.140
investigative reporting was quite good and quite deep and quite you know backed up but i have a i have
07:32:43.820
a final little point here and it's about macron if macron said to the president of the united states
07:32:52.300
i am not going to weigh in and help out with a major humanitarian crisis in a foreign country until
07:33:00.860
gossip stops about my wife that's crazy you are one of the shallowest people to walk the halls of
07:33:09.180
leadership at the country level that just absolutely let me ask creates me on that point that's a good
07:33:15.740
point vinnie your thoughts yeah well just just i want to get in there because because adam you said something
07:33:19.740
like um does he have to say or like should there have been like a hey can i no no that there's an
07:33:25.180
unwritten rule you don't have to say keep this between us it's a personal phone call between me
07:33:30.620
and you i shouldn't have to even think about you going on air the conversations that we have that
07:33:36.540
you have with him that you have without ever did you ever be like hey don't ever i guess you could
07:33:41.420
say this is months ago so it doesn't matter now but yeah i mean talk about this no you should know
07:33:46.620
it's not keep your mouth shut especially the president adam of the united states there's a
07:33:52.380
trust and once that trust is gone i don't think anybody would ever talk to her on any type of
07:33:58.460
level like hey listen just do me a favor and listen i love canvas to death by the way great reporting
07:34:04.060
she revealed the president of freaking france's husband wife whatever at least at the bare minimum
07:34:10.860
was in some pedophilia because you were you met him when he was 14 or 12 or whatever but when it
07:34:16.220
comes allegedly allegedly all allegedly but it's there shouldn't be a question pat of should he
07:34:22.220
have said something should she have asked no no no the president united states isn't asking how about
07:34:27.340
this you should know whatever i talk to you mind you when the person calls you hey this is a a call
07:34:32.940
from the president united states you that that's it that's the co-sign i got you adam your thoughts
07:34:38.540
vinnie i hear you but you have to understand your audience understand the person you're making she's not
07:34:44.700
making he's not trump isn't making a phone call to some random person some person with information
07:34:50.540
a business contact he's making a phone call to one of the most popular podcasters in the world whose
07:34:56.700
job it is to yap and talk you say don't say this to your audience and you say that up front that's like
07:35:06.220
when you're saying you're giving a quote to a newspaper or the new york times the washington post
07:35:10.780
you'll say this is from an undisclosed source yeah you'll say that or i'll talk to you on background
07:35:15.980
exactly you'd say listen candace i know that you have a big platform do not mention this but here's
07:35:20.620
what i need from you and listen if the trump is basically saying hey as much as shallow it is about
07:35:26.300
macron basically kind of defend his wife people have emotions people have feelings if it's a matter
07:35:31.740
of saving lives and ending of war you do what you're told because to me this whole thing that we
07:35:36.620
talk about signal versus noise noise is whether bridget macron has a penis or not signal is ending
07:35:44.860
a freaking war it's not even close in my opinion yeah but but uh no adam i i agree i agree 100 okay
07:35:52.540
so we'll just end it right there no well well let me let me let me ask this let me ask this other
07:35:57.900
question so on this one here we went okay so maybe the last question maybe the last question trump making the
07:36:05.420
phone call do you think trump made the right decision calling or should trump have told macron bro that's
07:36:12.060
your business what you want me to call candace to tell her to stop talking about you that's embarrassing
07:36:16.780
request you're making the request means it's right so do you think the president should have made the
07:36:23.180
call or do you think the president making the call knew that there's a possibility that candace is going
07:36:27.660
to talk about this publicly remember when we did the podcast something happened in the middle of the
07:36:31.020
the podcast with the president he said you know yeah okay so do you think the president knew she
07:36:37.660
may talk about this publicly yes i i think in that moment pat because he's like we talked about such a
07:36:43.820
deal maker adam you said this he just wants to make deals i don't think in that moment he's going oh
07:36:48.700
shit is she gonna because you should have and because i there's a book pat this is in regard to her too
07:36:53.820
there's a book that a guy wrote you guys might have read this it's called choose your enemies wisely
07:36:58.700
she is choosing adam elon's a whole different ball of wax this is the worst enemy to make is the
07:37:05.580
president of the united states who's not only going to be in for four years whoever's going to come in
07:37:09.980
after him is going to be in there for hopefully you know god willing for a bunch of other years
07:37:14.060
nobody's going to trust her they're not going to trust her to have any conversations she doesn't
07:37:18.140
have to care okay the range of people that follow the future looks bright it's absolutely amazing
07:37:24.220
seeing people in airports wearing angry patriot gear future looks bright gear all over the place
07:37:29.740
exciting times and it's fourth of july and we love america and we love freedom and if you do as well
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up to 60 all right um always a salesman shout out to pbd uh speaking of which um okay so yeah this
07:38:18.060
actually i was gonna react to a video here with the iran strikes because i know they got in a uh
07:38:37.420
another trillion dollar war that has a heavy cost to america including live what triggered
07:38:56.780
operation rising lion was it self-defense was it something more calculated were the stakes for
07:39:01.980
america is this the start of peace in the middle east or is it the opening act of another trillion
07:39:07.740
dollar war that has a heavy cost to america including lives so and i'm gonna let you start
07:39:13.900
us out here go ahead sure put on my flag all right well on thursday of this week israel carried out uh
07:39:20.300
strikes in iran uh essentially beginning what is now referred to as a war the strikes were carried
07:39:27.180
out right before donald trump uh the president of the united states of course was supposed to have
07:39:32.060
another round i believe the sixth round of diplomatic negotiations with iran to get a nuclear deal
07:39:37.900
a new nuclear deal uh because in 2018 trump ripped up the original nuclear deal which prevented iran from
07:39:44.300
enriching enough uranium to build nuclear weapons that brings us to today where you have the prime
07:39:50.460
minister of israel benjamin denyahu for literally decades trying to push the united states to go to war in
07:39:56.140
iran on israel's behalf he decides to carry out the strike there's now evidence indicating that trump
07:40:01.660
did give him his blessing to do this and so what's the argument well of course israel is making the
07:40:09.340
self-defense argument and i'll give you a little taste of what netanyahu had to say when he was on
07:40:13.500
fox news being interviewed by brett bear just yesterday take a look
07:40:16.780
no no first video first video that i sent you um let's see here
07:40:29.180
all right we're right away from 1800 so we didn't make it for the video guys it's all good
07:40:35.580
if chris is on if not we're gonna call it a day because i'm dying one second
07:40:46.220
and i just wanted more screen time so just see one second there it was right there
07:40:50.380
natalia is doing a good job pulling this out but brett bear landed that interview yeah this is
07:40:54.540
the show by the way this is uh her take this is the the channel by the way chat congratulations
07:40:59.100
red bear is uh did you see him rapping on stage red bears and red bear can rap oh my god yeah he's
07:41:04.060
great he's probably the best all right well wait
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the only thing i ask especially for my youtube viewers is for you guys to join oss we just passed
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07:41:54.940
like you shouldn't even be streaming on youtube anymore you should be shooting on rumbling
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kick only but i'll take the financial hit to reach more people especially on youtube where
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all right back to the schedule program managers
07:42:09.260
that's how we keep the fight going chat niggas demonetize me fucking losers man j-tube
07:42:16.220
shout out to you brett bear i just i just uh liked it in the texting oh okay uh i'll read
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chats real quick group of plastic balls attacking women to protect trans ram tram says i didn't realize
07:42:26.060
the power of canis hold a soft leader okay um our new says myron gains have you seen a predictive
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history chinese uh history teacher blowing out the youtube recently has some ideas on geopolitics okay
07:42:36.460
uh one chest put up the screenshot so um castle club can there you go um one chest put it up for
07:42:42.700
you guys um here's the here's how you do it actually he took a couple of pictures
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here i i i need to take pictures of this shit man let me let me get this shit real quick man step one
07:43:08.300
so yeah if any of you guys want to gift uh osss ninjas this is the way well let's go back
07:43:20.940
exchange so you'll know which video i'm talking about and i'm going to go in that order so you
07:43:24.540
guys know how i'm going to present this while she's pulling it up give a all right someone in
07:43:29.660
the trump cabinet called her first before trump called her directly okay that makes sense give
07:43:32.940
a quick summary of what the central thesis is that you want to okay so all right let's just
07:43:38.460
forget the videos i guess so basically yeah yeah so netanyahu argues we have intelligence indicating
07:43:45.180
that iran is on the precipice of developing nuclear weapons and that poses a threat to israel
07:43:51.740
um at the same time though uh we have tulsi gabbard can we pull up that video tulsi gabbard
07:43:56.620
um in march tulsi gabbard gave a briefing she is the uh secretary of the department of national
07:44:02.940
intelligence and so she's talking about the threat that iran poses she's specifically addressing
07:44:09.580
them allegedly building nuclear weapons now this is in march of this year take a look
07:44:16.540
the ic continues to assess that iran is not a nuclear weapon and supreme leader khamenei has
07:44:22.060
not authorized the nuclear weapons program that he suspended in 2003. the ic continues to monitor
07:44:28.780
closely if tehran decides to reauthorize its nuclear weapons program in the past year we've seen an
07:44:35.260
erosion of a decades-long taboo in iran on discussing nuclear weapons in public likely emboldening nuclear
07:44:41.580
weapons advocates within iran's decision-making apparatus iran's enriched uranium stockpile is at its
07:44:48.140
highest levels and is unprecedented for a state without nuclear weapons so without nuclear weapons
07:44:55.100
they're not building a nuclear bomb that that's what she clearly states during this hearing back in
07:45:00.140
march then you have netanyahu making it appear as though oh my god they're about to drop the nuke
07:45:05.180
on israel there's no evidence of that there's no indication that they're building a nuclear weapon
07:45:09.980
and more importantly nat now you can go to the last video i sent you because this is a video
07:45:15.740
from 2002 and i should also note dating all the way back to the 1990s netanyahu was saying that iran
07:45:23.260
is about to obtain a nuclear weapon this has been a narrative by netanyahu for literally decades and
07:45:30.060
here's what he had to say back in 2002 obviously this was after 9 11 but before the united states did
07:45:36.380
the preemptive war in iraq israel was trying to goad the u.s to invade iraq even though iraq had nothing
07:45:41.900
to do with 9 11. nonetheless here's what netanyahu said and this is a tyrant who is feverishly trying
07:45:49.980
to acquire nuclear weapons and today the united states must destroy the same regime because the
07:45:56.780
nuclear arms saddam will place the security of our entire world at risk is simply
07:46:03.980
not uh reflecting the reality to assume that saddam isn't feverishly working to develop nuclear weapons
07:46:16.220
as we if you take out saddam saddam's regime i guarantee that it will have all right so i'm
07:46:23.180
looking at the numbers uh over 100 of you guys have already voted almost 150 uh 88 of you guys say yeah
07:46:58.620
got you ninjas so just like that oss said yo go all right 88 of you guys said go so i i said uh
07:47:11.580
have enormous positive reverberations on the region principles of real estate the three l's
07:47:16.780
location location location the three principles of winning the war on terror
07:47:20.940
are the three w's winning winning and winning the more victories you amass
07:47:25.580
the easier the next victory becomes the first victory and that my friends is why he wanted so
07:47:30.380
bad to go and attack iran because he looked at it like we won in hamas we won in lebanon
07:47:34.700
we won in syria now we got to go to iran that's that's his strategy by the way guys
07:47:38.540
he likes some momentum in afghanistan makes a second victory in iraq that much easier the second
07:47:44.300
victory in iraq will make the third victory that much less than dismantling his regime will do
07:47:51.500
okay so um bfd says gnome billy how much weight has your fat ass lost or did you waste myron's
07:47:58.380
money oh shit gnome billy wants not much money how much weight you lost actually i want to know too
07:48:02.940
nigga how much weight you lost gnome billy is taking shots how much weight have you lost
07:48:09.820
nigga whether you're talking about iran whether you're talking about iraq whether you're talking
07:48:15.500
about libya whether you're talking about afghanistan there has been this orchestrated
07:48:21.420
effort specifically by netanyahu he's been kind of like the mouthpiece for it but the government of
07:48:26.460
israel has been trying to get the united states to fight its wars for israel to the detriment of
07:48:32.540
americans we went into iraq 4 000 of our soldiers died based on a complete lie there were no weapons of
07:48:40.780
mass destruction there was no indication that they were developing nuclear weapons it was a lie
07:48:46.300
and there i believe that right now what's happening is israel does the strike okay i think trump made a
07:48:52.220
huge mistake by giving that strike or giving these current strikes that israel is doing his blessing
07:48:58.060
i think he was under the assumption that that would bring iran to the negotiating table and give the
07:49:02.380
united states more leverage but that is not what's going to happen now iran is in full-blown war with
07:49:08.380
israel to the point where israel is trying to get the united states to fight offensively not to just
07:49:14.940
defend israel but to fight offensively so i give you that because people are going to die people are
07:49:21.820
already dying on the iranian side as we speak right now um upward of 220 iranians dead uh on the israeli
07:49:28.940
side it's now in the dozens of innocent people dead and i think this is really part of what's known as
07:49:35.020
the greater israel project right they want to have dominance in that region and we know that they
07:49:40.300
want to install puppet governments and so in the case of iran netanyahu can barely contain himself
07:49:46.060
when it comes to wanting regime change but it is always a bad idea when you have a third party or a
07:49:51.500
foreign government carry out or orchestrate regime change in your own country we have seen how that
07:49:57.180
works out it destabilizes countries look at libya that's a perfect example libya gave up their nuclear
07:50:02.860
program and you know what they got in return american boots all right i'm calling uh chris right
07:50:08.700
now chat yeah anna's anna's cooking on here again this is something probably the only topic that me
07:50:16.060
and people from the young turks have been forwarded to voicemail all right let me join in discord i think
07:50:21.820
let me open up this discord this niggas in here i hate discord but we made one for you guys anyway
07:50:42.780
so my my all right you guys can hear my phone let's go baby yo yo chris yeah what up yeah they
07:50:53.740
can hear you we're on stream uh you're you're uh i'm i just jumped into discord i don't see you on though
07:51:02.380
chris no way you're on michael right now so use something i guess yes you said my mic is echoing
07:51:10.460
yeah something's echoing that's just your sucky phone bro bro like i'm on the phone right now you're
07:51:21.180
well either way uh yo send me a i'm i'm uh i don't see you on discord
07:51:29.900
yo chris okay um i'll be on in 15 minutes then oh you're not on right now no not all right
07:51:40.460
all right wait actually no actually um yeah you're right it's probably my phone yeah i think
07:51:48.460
it's your phone bro oh yeah you know you know why because um your stream was open that's why okay
07:51:53.740
never mind oh yeah my stream okay yeah yeah bro i was wondering what the hell think i'm talking to
07:51:57.580
on my phone like with the thing like no no no it's not good like but yeah but um
07:52:03.580
um so 15 minutes then uh yeah i guess um i'm i'm on stream is it what no i'm on stream no i'm on
07:52:13.340
stream right now uh yeah i mean what i could do is okay yeah yeah we'll figure it out i mean like
07:52:19.580
i mean like no like right now i don't know rush because that's our company over but oh this is
07:52:23.740
you know yeah we ain't playing it never mind is we ain't playing this no no you know no we like we
07:52:29.420
like we can play just like let me know because like normally when i when i wait for you you
07:52:34.300
you take like at least 32 minutes or hours to get ready all right all right well i'll
07:52:42.140
all right well i'll i'll talk with you i'll talk with you then bro wait wait so
07:52:45.820
wait so now 15 minutes like let me know well yeah i'm reacting to a video right now but like
07:52:51.420
yeah there's like 13 minutes left on it or whatever so so yeah i'll be on a bit then all
07:52:56.700
right um all right cool all right all right i'm in peace issue here is that we're being lied to
07:53:05.340
and we're being lied to to the detriment of americans and to i guess to the benefit of israel
07:53:10.940
and i don't think that's okay adam do you want to i actually have some thoughts but but i know you're
07:53:15.740
far more well versed than me well i mean i'm an american american first so respectfully what's your point
07:53:21.660
my come on adam she made a bunch of good points bro basically they want a regime change in uh iran
07:53:29.340
and then yeah who's gonna stop and nothing to do it guys by the way thank you guys so much we just
07:53:32.940
crossed 1800 so what i'll do guys is i'm tired as fuck i'm not gonna lie slept three hours or whatever
07:53:40.060
but i'll play um what i'll do is i'll stream on kick some gaming with chris
07:53:47.020
so what i might do is i i think i might um walk frank i'll finish reacting here walk frank come
07:53:57.500
back and uh stream on kick i might do that so i can end the show nice and clean and then i'll start
07:54:05.260
up another stream on on kick for you guys because yeah bro i barely slept man i'm tired as fuck but
07:54:12.620
hey man we grinded it out eight hours plus the point is the united states should not be backing
07:54:18.060
israel in this war even though we didn't hit the 1800 and the time limit it's fine i'll still
07:54:23.020
stay on and i'll play a couple games with chris i'll stream for like an hour or two
07:54:26.460
do some marvel rivals on kick or of aggression against iran so iran is not a threat to our
07:54:31.820
national security there's no evidence of that whatsoever that's true they're not a threat
07:54:35.100
whatsoever they really aren't bro like they're really not i don't think that's true
07:54:39.100
niggas are on the other side of the world bro based on what okay based on the fact that she
07:54:43.500
just said they have a huge amount of enriched uranium they do they have six to ten bombs worth
07:54:47.500
so let's start with that you want to know who has uh but they don't have the capability of delivering
07:54:51.500
it all the way to united states nuclear weapons israel yeah facts israel hold on no no not allegedly
07:54:58.700
not allegedly hold on there's a difference israel is not chanting death to america they are not oh my
07:55:04.380
god bro when they say that to america bro guys when they say that to america it doesn't mean
07:55:09.980
let's kill the u.s citizens they don't want they don't like the american empire okay that's what it
07:55:15.260
is they don't like the american empire the government etc that because let's be honest here we have a
07:55:20.540
government that allows israel to run rampant across the middle east that's what they're talking about
07:55:26.220
okay they oppose the u.s government now do i like that no i don't actually however
07:55:34.140
we have to be honest here that a lot of the problems we have in the middle east is because
07:55:38.300
of our really bad foreign policy bro ideologically captured on top of that they just got detonators
07:55:44.700
which makes them more dangerous what is the proof that they're doing this they have nuclear sites that
07:55:49.260
both chill this is the same iraq narrative how are we yeah i was gonna say bro literally this is 2003 this
07:55:57.180
is the same they used to say about iraq i'm falling for it again 20 years later i agree with you that
07:56:04.300
i don't want iraq ever again but i i see but we're driving toward that we're totally just because you're
07:56:09.980
right on something doesn't mean you're right on everything i'm right on everything so that's where
07:56:13.580
you made a problem is that you just okay tell me where i'm wrong tell me where i'm wrong weapons
07:56:18.380
though yeah i'll be honest uh anna is obviously far more um versed in this topic than the other
07:56:29.100
individuals on this broadcast are you gonna go fight are you gonna enlist and go fight on behalf
07:56:34.460
of israel i have family i have friends that are in the idf okay that that doesn't help the uh the
07:56:41.100
argument here they're in israel if you're american discussion you should not be calling for american
07:56:46.940
soldiers to fight israel's war you just ranted okay and i'm gonna talk now i'm gonna ask you
07:56:51.820
one question okay adam go but if we're gonna talk talk and then let me talk let me just say one thing
07:56:57.340
one thing real quick i don't get to talk you kept going welcome to your show go ahead sweetheart the
07:57:01.980
country that is currently carrying out a genocide in gaza has nuclear weapons and they have the audacity
07:57:10.540
to talk about how other countries in the region are a threat to their national security okay
07:57:14.940
let me just say one thing here's the thing i i appreciate that netanyahu is a terrible
07:57:20.140
person flawed person okay and i appreciate that nobody wants to see iraq again but on top of the
07:57:25.580
fact that i do think there is some legitimate concern at this moment with regard to nuclear weapons
07:57:29.660
there's also intercontinental ballistic missiles every country has that are we going to invade every
07:57:34.780
country because they have missiles death to america they're the top funders of terror the houthis
07:57:39.340
hezbollah hamas the shia militias they have assassination plots against our president there's
07:57:45.180
cyber there's no evidence of that either by the way where does that said that the cia loves to
07:57:53.660
the united states into i want to understand your central thesis here's my question what is your
07:57:57.500
central thesis that iran is not a threat to america iran is not are they not there's no evidence that
07:58:05.180
iran is not to america developing nuclear weapons they are part are they developing nuclear weapons
07:58:09.660
or not they are not developing nuclear weapons there is no evidence of that yes so why are they
07:58:14.380
having nuclear peace talks why do they have because they think that because they think it's fun what
07:58:18.060
are you talking about okay if we can't live in reality they're having nuclear peace talks let me
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answer you to do what to talk about the nuclear weapons that they're not developing okay that makes
07:58:26.620
no sense to me first of all i would not be surprised if they geared up enriching uranium
07:58:32.380
as a result of the fact that they definitely did as uh you know um you you call threshold deterrent
07:58:42.220
whatever the point is is that they need to maintain some semblance of ability to enrich uranium to
07:58:46.380
protect themselves trump pulled out of the iran nuclear deal in 2018 the iran nuclear deal
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hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on it's okay hold on is part of the non-proliferation treaty do
07:59:00.540
you know what that is good explain non-proliferation npt yep treaty i told you guys uh like bro like
07:59:06.140
foreign policy guys most political commentators don't understand foreign policy you know i'll give
07:59:10.780
credit to anna she does understand it um obviously um chank from young turks um
07:59:17.100
um you know democrats tend to be a bit more uh um foreign policy savvy because of the nature of
07:59:26.700
their um you know humanitarian aid a lot of the time uh republicans are not good with foreign policy i
07:59:32.060
i will be honest about that the right wing is extremely weak when it comes to foreign policy
07:59:35.820
because i'll tell you why and i've said it before the reason why they're weak on it is because the
07:59:41.100
the elephant in the room when you deal with foreign policy is israeli control and republicans
07:59:46.700
don't want to touch that boogeyman he allows the international community to do checks on iran to
07:59:52.380
ensure so they'd rather focus on talking about trans and gay and all this other
07:59:56.860
shit king lejeune says arma reforger is a good one okay uh no billy approaching 40 good stuff no billy
08:00:04.460
i've been struggling with diet that's obviously my fault but i have been talking to one chest the whole
08:00:08.860
time he's been helping me out i go to the gym three times a week minimum he knows my progress
08:00:11.980
i've been adding things to my workout routine my guidance one chest says rowan good good good
08:00:16.540
40 is good but you got to do better my friend you're fat as hell uh gore the one says hey i'm in cc
08:00:22.220
do a current i need to sign up all says i just woke up i got to support what you do
08:00:26.060
uh join oss bro because i'm not going to be streaming this stuff on um on the cc anymore
08:00:32.700
i'm trying to separate shit obviously and also um you know look guys look let me be very honest
08:00:37.500
about this shit all right i'm very controversial i say crazy all right obviously i could tell
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sometimes you know that um you know the i say fresh might not agree with or like it makes
08:00:49.740
them feel uncomfortable so i can't be a selfish fucking retard and say wild right on on uh you
08:00:56.220
know fresh and fit all the time you know i mean so that's a shared platform right um it's me and him
08:01:02.380
and i can't be a fucking selfish retard and say all the crazy that i say on on
08:01:06.380
fresh and fit bro so i'm making this here so that you we can you know have the discussions that we
08:01:11.020
want to talk about with politics and everything else like that because that's not fair to walt man
08:01:14.620
so uh that's what it is bro that's what it is so i'm separating everything right because obviously
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my political takes are my political takes and um you know a lot of the times uh you know fresh is
08:01:25.660
that to suffer because of my fucking political takes man that's not fair to him so yeah
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sure that they are not developing nuclear weapons the country that does have nuclear weapons is is
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israel they are not part of the non-proliferation treaty they don't even acknowledge the fact that
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they have nuclear weapons the idea that israel that has yeah they never will the backing of the top
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military superpower in this world and that's the united states the country that has nuclear weapons
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is crying about how iran is such a threat to israel it's ridiculous but didn't they just pull uh not
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i am not educated enough to fully go in but what i did see everyone post this morning is that iran is
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pulling out of that treaty yeah yeah yeah i did see that they brought the treaty as well so what are
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the implications what does the treaty ensure and breaking it what are the implications the treaty
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ensures that they're not developing nuclear weapons here's the problem iran played by the rules
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and they got anyway that is true that is true they did play by the rules and then trump came in and
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just tore everything up they did play by the rules because the international committee was involved
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nick even said that why is it that both republicans and democrats agreed that the nuclear deal was
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probably the best way we had to actually control iran's nuclear program it got anyway why do you think
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so let me let me understand one thing are you a defender of iran is that no i'm not a defender
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i'm a defender of the united states of america and our soldiers sounds like you're defending
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iran you know what i think israel needs to fight its own wars why do they keep pulling the united
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states into their war america is not on the ground in israel i'm i'm america first there's zero americans
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first don't say that you don't when you when you're egging on this war you're not america first
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we have soldiers in that region right now tens of thousands of them who are now a target as a
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result so are you just like do you hate israel blindly that you can't address the facts yeah
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this is what they say all the time when i see i've had a couple of retards in the chat say this too
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like you're an iran defender you're an islamist islamist you're a jihadist and i'm just like all
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right bro like that is the propaganda that israel says to try to get you to instead of like attacking
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your argument they say oh you're an iran sympathizer it's like no bro it's like common sense like you're
08:03:37.660
trying to destroy their country and effectuate regime change like of course they're going to try to get
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nuclear weapons like duh you fucking retard what the hell do you think is going to happen what the
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current israeli government not just the current israeli government it's like bro it's crazy it's
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like yo you violently oppress the palestinians and then like you guys get mad when like they fight back
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what do you think is going to happen look i don't condone what happened on october 7th but it's like dude
08:04:04.540
violent resistance violent occupation always leads to violent resistance
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that's what happens unfortunately with humans what the israeli government over the last several
08:04:14.860
decades has it's like they punch you and then you punch them back and they're like oh my god oh
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oy vey you know like it's another holocaust oh you know done in line to americans and the american
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government in order to get us to fight their wars for them that's what i have a problem with all the
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wars and i agree we shouldn't have done what we did in afghanistan iraq and all that yeah in 10 years
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you'll say the same about iraq on your presidential congressional and military apparatus all of that
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is based on bb nettingham's opinion is that what you're saying the israeli government so you're saying
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that wants to be the dominant force in that region can we pull up the western news flash they are
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they've just taken out all their enemies so i don't understand like are you defending terrorists
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yeah see there we go the defending terrorist claim yeah adam's using all the uh all the zionist uh
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talking point bingo card let's go baby i'm not defending terrorists no other country expects the
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united states to fight their wars for them other than israel why is that well ukraine's doing a pretty
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good job how about that so you're dead wrong in the case there's also other countries that we get
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involved in yeah and i don't see american troops on the ground and we should in israel in gaza in
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lebanon in syria in any of these okay so what you're doing is yapping and lying here's my problem with
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you you could be loud yeah she didn't lie about anything bro that's all true you can be wrong you
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don't have any you don't have when you're loud and wrong that's when you get in trouble okay okay
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she's factually correct man on everything when we invaded iraq i've been trying to speak this
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entire it's like 20 minutes in i haven't okay why she's interrupting to talk let's see if she says
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something smart let's see said a single go ahead lady go crazy go nuts i don't want to be like
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just go well anyway so yeah go i just want to say just because you're yelling doesn't mean that you're
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correct but that's not my main point my main point is this i'm not even pro the not yahoo
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regime but let's get our facts correct iran is completely desecrating all agreements that it's
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previously made in fact yes yes yes no they're not just two weeks ago they they refused to let
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nuclear inspectors into their infrastructure into their facilities that is a clear violation of pre
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yeah that's because they backed out the deal man like what the like they're trying to attack them
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the iaea has had spies in there that has been spying on their program so yeah of course not
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disagreements to to say that that's not happening is completely dishonest and disingenuous and i'm not
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even and israel with the hypocrisy doesn't even let the iaea go into their country what are you talking
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about pro netanyahu i just want to lay out the facts here this is what's happening they are violating
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agreements yeah because we violated ours come on man bro can this woman she
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interrupted to say that they violated the agreement that we violated originally well let me ask you
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something what if you play by the rules for years you literally play by the rules your part yes this
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is a fact the international community literally was overseeing the entire process we oversaw it russia
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oversaw it china was involved france was involved several different countries were involved in this
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nuclear deal man to make sure that there was oversight so every party was happy and iran did play by the
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rules part of the non-proliferation treaty you're allowing iaea inspectors to come into your country
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and use donald trump ripping up the nuclear deal was probably one of the worst geopolitical decisions
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that have happened within the last 10 years and you guys could take that one to the bank damn son
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where'd you find this still see that israel is successful in goading the united states to fight this
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war they're still lying about what iran is up to wouldn't you just say you know what effort why am i even
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part of this why are we allowed facts they're paying money to israel to try to destroy us like
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of course they're not going to complain community to come in and check so you're saying iran is
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playing by the rules yeah iran is absolutely now i know who you are you believe iran trump respect
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i don't believe iran dude she said they were playing by the rules this was before trump ripped
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up the nuclear deal in 2018 then obviously them playing by the rules started to erode so just
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i believe international inspectors and i believe the united states as they by the way if you don't
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want iran to develop nuclear weapons best way to do that is to remain in the iran nuclear deal
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but then yahoo hated the iran yep he was one of the biggest lobbyists to get it destroyed he even
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challenged obama came to fucking congress and spoke against the president united states bro city president
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united states like i don't agree with this nuclear deal here anna first said our van is playing by
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all the rules that's what you said they were playing by all the rules i just told you that
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they refused to let nuclear inspectors into their facilities just two weeks ago okay now you move the
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yeah because they're a fucking woman they're about to get attacked by the united states and
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israel of course they're not going to comply with the iaea what the fuck dude
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you're saying oh but it's not their fault because they didn't they plead by the rules now they can
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not yes it's called common sense you need to understand why people do the things that they do
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they're not complying because we pulled out the nuclear deal we're fucking israel's going to attack
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them they've been talking about regime change for a minute of course they're going to say
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iaea can't come in we know that you guys have spies in here which they do how do you think we
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know about fordo and all these nuclear facilities and what was in there i played by the rules because
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israel isn't playing understand what i mean no like you're changing okay let me just let me calmly
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try to explain it so you guys understand what i'm saying yeah dude these all these other co-hosts
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are completely out of their depth in this conversation dude they can't even engage with what she's
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saying bro they can't even engage with what she's saying like they're putting like random oh they
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didn't comply the iaea yeah because fucking the iaea was spying on them and we pulled out of the nuclear
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deal what the for years iran played by the rules because they don't want war okay they allowed the
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international community to come in they did abide by the iran nuclear deal even after trump pulled out
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for a few years after that they were not enriching uranium because they wanted to re-enter the deal
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by the way biden because there's crippling sanctions on them comes into power biden promised
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on the campaign trail that he was going to re-enter the iran nuclear deal he didn't do that so democrats
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are a problem in this scenario as well hold on let me finish my point let me finish my point so i
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allow you to talk so i need to ask you something adam go ahead do you think tulsi gabbard was lying
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to the american people when she said that iran was not building a nuclear weapon was she lying
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i don't know what tulsi what information she's looking at shout out to master chess subscribed uh
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pip says uh the right side doesn't know overseas because uh most have the mindset of just bomb that
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shouldn't be done with it w you for pushing uh through for the peeps oh slash i got you pip yeah bro
08:11:23.980
republicans republicans i'll be honest with you bro they're stupid on foreign policy bro
08:11:27.500
test says bro uh by the way if the chat doesn't get ignored jade like all my chats we hit 1800 for
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ometv uh pop pop i said specifically we need to hit it before i finished the reacting to the um pbd
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video and we didn't so what i'm gonna do is i'm gonna take frank and i'm still gonna give you all
08:11:43.980
some content i'm gonna go and uh i'm gonna stream on kick and play some uh marvel rivals with uh with
08:11:49.420
chris so i'm still gonna stream for you guys even though we didn't hit the number um armor forger
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is a good one appreciate you man but i'm pretty sure iran is working on nuclear weapon question
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for you sure based on what question for you based on what here's how are you sure here's the
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question enough enriched uranium she says that they have accelerated but and if they're not working
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on nuclear weapons why do they have debt okay so what do you think is going to have scientists
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there how do you feel about the islamic regime of iran to deter that's why they have those people
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there for deter just like why people have weapons for deter that's doing a genocide determine right
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now having a nuclear weapon do you have any problems with that but let's say can you address
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the nuclear weapons that is real we're talking about we're talking about iran right okay well
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we're talking about israel and iran okay okay israel is a military superpower because of the united
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states they have nuclear weapons they're carrying out the mass slaughter of innocent people in gaza and
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the west bank which had nothing to do with the mocked october 7th it's not it's all related we're
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pretending as if israel is the w and they're not i've learned i've learned my lesson don't try to
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convince someone who's completely off left field someone who's actually educated on the matter yeah
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so here's my question for you well anna's on this show chat so we'll see when i go over there how do
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you feel about the islamic regime in iran somebody said get anna on the show terrible people okay so
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what are the saudis so are a bunch of other countries we do trade with there's a list of
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violations of the proliferation agreement right here so why are people in iran
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saudis are pretty bad they killed tens of thousands of innocent yemenis on cheering for israel why is
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that that's not true yeah no 80 percent of iranians actually did iranians are rooting for israel if
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there's one country that israel is the highest that's propaganda approval readings it's within the
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iranians absolutely detest israel bro they hate them so much that they fucking got behind the
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ayatollah even if they don't like him because they got attacked by a foreign country bro they got
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reunited i mean i talked about this yesterday nick nick uh saw i talked about as well guys uh like
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iran is 100 united with this shit iran iranians why is reza pellevi getting on tv doing an interview bro
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nobody likes reza bro come on man come on dude pull it up saying please iranians now because the
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regime changed failed they he tried that and they failed that's installed by israel i don't understand
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what you're doing respectfully yeah you're defending iran i'm defending it's not about the oh my god
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this is the zionist tactic come on man position to be yeah i'm defending the united states the country
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that yells death to america right a united states that israel this war i don't want our soldiers
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fighting this war i don't want american you're using a strongman argument because our soldiers
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are not fighting this war they're going to it's like they could be any minute and that's no they're
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not what they're not they're not any wrong what makes you say that because the whole thing is
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already so suspicious so the argument is we don't want them could be but they're not now
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yeah come on dude like they could literally bomb the u.s bases all across like
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not involvement that'd be bad if they did that but they could do it putting people in dangerous
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way for what for israel is the point and then he went on and said he actually had full knowledge
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of everything going down the entire time thank you so much for watching all right so um anyway
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yeah i might go on there guys uh figure out the time and everything like that so this is what i'm
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going to do guys i'm going to go walk frank because he's been here for eight hours chat
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niggas dying i need to feed him walk him uh also i'm going to fix the cameras this camera angle i think
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is good but um i need to fix uh this camera angle right here i got to get with tpc and fix it um
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and uh because it's like fucking it blurs for some odd fucking reason pissing me off and then this
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camera right here oh it's off but yeah the up above camera i got to change the coloring on it so
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i'm going to fix the cameras with tpc stream with chris um i'll be back on kick in a little bit so
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you know that'll be a good time i'll be back tomorrow five o'clock we're going to cover um
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what i'll probably cover i'll cover jeff bezos and i'll also cover um the big beautiful bill
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i'll cover those two different two two things so politics and some red pills gonna be a good time
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so love you guys i'm gonna be back on kick here in about
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give me like let me see here i ordered some food too because i haven't eaten either
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i was not gonna be here for like a bit okay i'm gonna go walk frank eat i'll be back in like uh
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i'll play in like at like two o'clock guys so two o'clock i'll see you ninjas on kick all right
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i'm gonna come back on a kick at two so love you guys uh it's kick.com slash myron gains x
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i'll be back on kick out at 2 a.m guys and we're gonna play some marvel rivals with chris
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and china man it's gonna be gonna be a good time love you guys peace out and uh what what
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what do we do here all right i'll leave you guys with you with a song that you ninjas
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gotta do there that's something i don't know you though does a song have
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a song that i think is a thing but yeah i have a good session and we're doing nice
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uh they've actually done that's also a high theme my options that we got out
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and i've been on a hook for a year and then we got out to work in about two of my
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