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Summary
On this episode of The Extravaganza, Myron and Jake talk about dispensationalism and why it's a bad idea. Plus, we find out why Myron thinks maggots turned into flies.
Transcript
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We've got a banger show lined up for you tonight.
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We're going over everything with our special guest, Myron.
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And he wanted to have a conversation today about dispensationalism, which is always a good
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I don't think we've done much on that on The Extravaganza.
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Touched on it a little bit with Dave Smith, last guest we had.
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But he had a whole bunch of questions, and we definitely want to try it.
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I'm here with my pristinely untalented co-host, Jake Rattlesnake.
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He did not know that maggots turned into flies.
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And so, like, that should tell you all you need to know about why we have Jake on the
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But anyway, with that, we'll dive right in the show.
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And so, like, that should tell you all you need to know about why we have Jake on the show,
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Guys, welcome to getting double audio from that.
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So, like, that should tell you all you need to know about why we have Jake on the show.
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But if he's running through OBS, he's probably getting the offstage feed coming in.
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So, where the things are down the bottom where you can see our different icons, at the very bottom left, you'll see, listen, offstage feeds.
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Uh, look at where all the boxes are at the bottom.
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And just go all the way to the left, and it says, listen, offstage feeds.
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So, where the things are down the bottom where you can see our different icons, at the very bottom left, you'll see, listen, offstage feeds.
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So, where the things are down the bottom where you can see our different icons.
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Yeah, you want it where you want it checked off.
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So, what's probably happening is you're getting a double feed on your OBS audio.
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Yeah, it should be the same audio inputs for both.
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So, what's probably happening is you're getting a double feed on your OBS audio.
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Well, off to a bit of a rough start, but no big deal.
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Myron Gaines, nice of you to join us here on the extravaganza.
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Why don't you take a second, shout yourself out, your channel out.
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One half of the special podcast is my own game.
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I'm going to see a special edition of the information from 2013 up until 2020.
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And a bunch of different other topics that tend to get me in trouble.
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Yeah, I see that your university tour is doing real well.
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That's been a lot of bangers coming out of that.
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You were very cool, calm, and collected doing those debates.
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With that, we're going to drop the YouTube feed, guys.
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That's where you're going to be able to catch this stream today.
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Mystery, go ahead, and you can kill it on the YouTube side.
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Mark, did you know that maggots turn into flies?
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You guys can hear me fine, but I turned the volume up so the audience can hear me.
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I don't know if this happens to you guys, but my audio automatically cuts to 50% whenever I joined an X-Space or StreamYard or something like that.
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But anyway, with that, if you're all set, Myron, we'll dive right into the show here today.
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It actually feels good to be the one who's not taking L's for once.
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I'm glad someone's substituting for me for once.
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So this is one of Joe Rogan's buddies, Aubrey Marcus.
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I'll just let you guys get a raw look at this without me saying anything.
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I first knew Joshua Draper as one of the homies I used to play ball with, but then he caught my wife's eye.
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Ultimately, in our expanded relationship constellation, there was an opening for Vailana Marcus.
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And Joshua Draper to explore what that possibility might look like.
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So expanded relationship constellation, there was a chance for his wife to explore with Joshua.
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They opened up a whole new planet in the constellation, bro?
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You've got to watch out for these hippies, bro.
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So, Maren, have you ever had any of this hippie talk on the Fresh and Fit podcast where they talk about the expanded relationship constellations?
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I mean, to me, it just sounds like a fancy way of saying I'm a cuck.
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You know, it's wild how people, you know, go through leaps and bounds and double backflips to go ahead and just justify their bullshit.
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So, you know, it's plainly put, the guy's a cuck, but he's over here trying to say, we're exploring and we're doing all this other stuff.
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They use all this fucking word salad to justify their stupidity.
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This is like a thing that I've noticed almost exclusively with people that are progressive.
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They'll use certain buzz terms, right, to justify their moronic behavior, right?
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And they use the guise of, like, being a moral superior or I'm tolerant, et cetera.
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But I find it interesting how those people are almost never tolerant of individuals that have conservative viewpoints.
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They're tolerant of degeneracy, but they're never tolerant of anyone that opposes their worldview.
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Let me ask you a question, though, a hypothetical question.
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Let's say that you have, like, a couple who is a bunch of progressives, right?
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Is it actually, do you think that if conservatives started banging their wives because they were attracted to them, would that help turn them out?
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Like, would that, do you think that would help change the ideology of the women?
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You know, we're in such a, after talking to, like, you know,
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Like, it's amazing to me how, regardless of education, racial background, where they grew up, you know, father figure or not, having a father obviously mitigates some of these problems.
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Like, the strength of feminism is so wildly ubiquitous.
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Like, it's, I don't know if we can go backwards, you know, at this point.
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I don't know if they're going to concede, you know, obviously we should try, right?
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We should do our best, save those that want to be saved.
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But I don't think they're going to yield any or concede on any of the territory they've taken because it's like they would have to go backwards from a progressive standpoint.
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People can have so many perspectives around what this is.
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But just to let you know, by the way, for a bit of context, they're doing a podcast with the guy and his wife and the guy who's cucking him.
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Like the gleaming truth and beauty of what's in my heart is like, this is the happiest that I've ever been, the most grateful that I've ever been.
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It is required and brought out the absolute best of me.
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My overwhelming love to just survive, but for Vi to experience the fullness of what's possible for her life is like a stronger part of my character and will than that natural primal response, which is like.
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The hair, she couldn't stay away from the hair.
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If there's something there, if this is a true thing, I bless the truth.
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And for me, it's like, how am I in this experience where the person that I love more than anything is so graciously and generously and beautifully impeccable?
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So, just the adjective-laced diatribe to try to soften the blow.
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And then saying, thank you for letting this other guy fuck my mouth.
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What I'm about to say doesn't reflect the individuals on this panel, first and foremost.
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They might agree with some of it, but it might not reflect them.
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I think we need to go back to making women second-class citizens.
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We need to go, like, we need to start withdrawing some of their rights.
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Because what I've come to realize is when you give women power, progressivism becomes rampant.
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They use word salad to justify their bullshit behavior.
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They do a whole bunch of deplorable, retarded things.
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And I think for a long time, this is why every society has always made sure that either a father or a brother or some other male in her family that's close to her that doesn't have a vested interest in smashing her needs to be involved in the mating process.
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Like, you know, this is what fathers are supposed to defend against.
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And the fact that she's on a podcast talking about this with no shame, I think, kind of shows how far we've fallen as a society.
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But the reason why is because we've basically effectively given the market to women where they dictate what's appropriate and what's not appropriate in the bedroom now.
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So I know some people might say, oh, well, who cares?
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But the problem with this is that with women, they're followers.
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They're not really individuals capable of independent thought.
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So when this bullshit is out there in the media, an impressionable girl at maybe 18 years old is scrolling through her TikTok and she sees this, she's going to think that this is appropriate.
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Because I think a lot of the covenants that we had in place to kind of deal with this problem, shame, religion, you know, father figures, the family, all the training wheels we had to keep women from being retards, they're gone.
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And then this is the byproduct of what happens when you allow unhinged and unfeathered hypergamy.
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It'd be remiss in my duties not to give one piece of pushback here, which is this guy is allowing this.
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This guy is sitting there like a fucking chump with his, you know, with his head like this while she thanks him for letting this other guy stuff her like a Thanksgiving turkey.
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How does this guy, how does this fucking guy not have to walk the walk of shame?
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How does he not get the tomatoes thrown at his fucking face?
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Yeah, no, of course men have to accept some type of responsibility for the fuckery, you know, especially when they're in a relationship.
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Clearly, he's not the one leading the relationships.
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Yeah, so it's a combination of two different things, right?
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So it's her being a 304 and then it's him being too stupid to realize that her being a 304 is unacceptable behavior, right?
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I think a lot of guys, modern men, have a big problem with establishing boundaries with women.
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This is something I've noticed with a lot of young guys is they're extremely uncomfortable or unwilling to put boundaries up with women.
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And then they kind of just let them do whatever they want.
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And obviously, as she continues to do whatever she wants, it snowballs, becomes worse.
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And then, bam, now you've got an insufferable girlfriend who's cucking you on a podcast.
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Yeah, you've got to be able to just put down the boundaries and to be able to leave, though.
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If you're not actually going to leave and if they don't actually think that you're going to leave, then they will just keep shit testing you.
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They shit test to the point where you actually just have to say, all right, well, fuck off.
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We're actually just talking about this before we're on air.
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And you have to say to them, all right, fuck off.
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And then they always come back to you every single time.
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Is there a demoralizing aspect socially, you think, Myron, from society from the inside out, which is now so rotten that this demoralizing aspect has moved to young Zoomers and even millennials?
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Like I see this guy's got to be close to our age, right?
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He's got to be more in the millennial camp than he is in the Gen Z camp.
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Is this part of a kind of social zeitgeist you think men are dealing with?
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I'll give my I've talked about this before, and I really kind of want to get your take on this.
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I'm going to kind of give you what I think, and I'd love to get your feedback.
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You know, I think millennials, right, people in our demographic, 30s, 40s, born in the 80s, 90s, right?
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And what I mean by this is, and I'll explain what I mean by this.
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I think young men today are more based than our people were back in 08, 07, 06.
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And I always use the Obama era kind of as like a barometer because I think this progressivism bullshit that we're kind of dealing with now with the 99 genders, I tie it back to 2008.
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Because obviously Bush had left such a bad taste in people's mouths with the Iraqi war.
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And Obama kind of came at the perfect time where you had this guy who was black, you know, he was mixed, he was well-spoken, he came from Harvard.
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It's like almost a perfect storm where he was able to come in with his charisma and charm and, you know, eloquent speaking.
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And then he was able to kind of surreptitiously usher in this woke era of, you know, BLM.
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You know, he was the one that approved gay marriage, right?
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And I think that was like the slippery slope that's kind of led to all this other fuckery.
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Like obviously us, we might have been a bit more left-leaning when we were younger and now we grew up.
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But I would say there's still a lot of us that are still holding on to that 2008 progressivism and haven't grown up.
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Our generation is more tough than the new guys.
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So I call this the, this is a crisis of competency.
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If you, do you know men who are super competent at their job?
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Like the people who can go in and they can look at a stairwell and just weld that shit together out of their mind, right?
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Well, those skills are rapidly deteriorating and they have been since I was a kid, have been since you were a kid.
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If you're not competent and you don't learn competency in the workforce,
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why do we expect that if there's a crisis of competency in the workplace and things like this,
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that that wouldn't bleed over into relationships?
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If people are so fucking incompetent, they can't do basic tasks.
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Why would we assume that this wouldn't bleed into the competency of holding down a relationship?
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And I think that the competency crisis, and this would be a mix of everything from mass migration to demoralization,
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to these ideas of turning the workplace into a mercenary marketplace where it's just a free-for-all,
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go for the job that pays the most, fuck stability, fuck longevity.
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It's a mercenary marketplace and the bean counters have put this in.
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As competency crashes out, I think that it affects all aspects of men's lives, and that includes the relationship aspects.
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You have to be confident with the relationships, and it's interesting because, Maren, I've heard you say before,
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it's like accomplishment begets competence begets.
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Oh, competence leads to accomplishments, which then leads to confidence.
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Yeah, and you have to be confident in the parameter of a relationship to be able to set boundaries.
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Like, you need to have enough competency to understand what's going on in your own life and how to manage your own affairs.
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And honestly, one thing that helps and assists men and teaches them that is the workplace.
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They learn that shit working with other men, especially in trades, things like this.
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That's why when you see these people say, well, the masculine men are all in the trades.
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Well, is that the case, or is it just that that's where the competent men are?
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You know, I mean, if you can barely do your job properly, how the hell are you going to be in a position to lead a female, right?
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Who I would argue is one of the biggest tests of your competency because, you know, obviously you've got to be able to do things outside of the work, you know, outside of the house,
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But, yeah, I would agree that the ability to critically think and then be a problem solver is kind of something that, you know,
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with ChatGPT and the ease of the Internet and Google and everything else like that, it has made a lot of guys incompetent in many different ways.
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But, I mean, wouldn't we expect there to be bleed over?
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Like, in all aspects of your life, if you're going to be, if you're incompetent in the workplace and you're incompetent in these other things you do,
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why would we ever expect men like that to be successful in relationships, being competent and handling interpersonal dynamics between people?
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Incompetency seems like it bleeds over into everything, right?
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I use this analogy a lot of the times with the gym, right?
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So if you go to the gym and, you know, and you're dedicated, you build up a good body or you get in shape, all these skill sets that you learn from going to the gym,
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being disciplined, abstaining from BS, you know, being consistent, all this other stuff, you can go ahead and apply that to other endeavors and it helps you so much.
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So, yeah, you can make the argument for 100% that if you're an incompetent person in work, right, where that's your livelihood and men are judged off of their career and their trade and everything else,
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if you're not competent with what you're supposed to be doing, yeah, that incompetency is going to bleed over to a bunch of different aspects of your life.
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Now, I would also, to reinforce your point, give you the other side of this,
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is that women are almost always generally incompetent at work.
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So why should we have any expectation that they're ever going to be competent in relationships?
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So as you guys know, what's going on right now is that Cincinnati beatdown, right?
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And after the Cincinnati beatdown, the police, the chief of police got on and it was like this overweight, insufferable voice, voice, you know, woman.
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And she was just going on a yap session at the press conference talking about this beatdown.
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And I think Matt Walsh had posted, hey, why are women in law enforcement?
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But as someone that comes from that world, he's 100% correct because as someone that used to work in law enforcement, women, you know, a lot of the times basically put you in a very dangerous situation,
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especially when you're in a use of force scenario, right?
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When I used to do planned raids, right, when we would go and hit somebody's house at 6 o'clock in the morning, whatever, or serve a search warrant,
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I would never let women be on the entry team, right?
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Because as the team leader, I pick who goes where.
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So I always used to put women on the perimeter, right, or do some other bullshit job because I knew that putting them in the stack
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or putting them in a situation where they're open to potential a firefight or a physical confrontation, that effectively weakens everybody else.
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So that's an example of what I mean when I say like women in many cases should not even be in law enforcement.
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And if they are, we have to like almost like make a new standard for them to adapt to their mediocrity.
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But they do make new standards for them in law enforcement, right?
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And they make new standards for them as prison guards, and they make standards for them as soldiers, and they make standards for them.
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Even if you were the best woman in the world at putting handcuffs on a man, you still have to get them on the ground to fucking cuff him.
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So, you know, the idea of competency in these jobs, I think, matters.
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Carrying this piano out so that me and your wife can have a beautiful eating together.
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But actually, really, underneath that was this recognition, I think, between you and I.
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Buddy carried the piano, a long walk carrying a piano, to go and place it down so another man could fuck his wife.
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Does it seem like a person who has a high competency level?
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But the fact that another guy's fucking his wife, he could not be more low status and less competent to me.
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So while it's true that almost no man will ever get rich without a significant amount of hard work and effort,
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there are some fucking blockheads who get rich.
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There are some really stupid people who end up getting rich.
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But you can still see the incompetency in their life.
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Look what happens when incompetent people win the lottery.
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Because they're completely unable to manage their own affairs.
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I mean, you can be as competent as you want in other regards.
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But if you're letting hippie, sneaky fucker inside your wife, then you couldn't be lower status to me.
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And the other thing, too, is that, you know, for a guy to accept that and go against his biology, right?
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Because let's be honest, it goes against our biology to allow a dude to smash our girl.
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So most guys that allow that to happen, something is wrong with them in the head, whether they were brought up incorrectly, they have a father figure, they have a good masculine figure.
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You look at someone like Diddy, for example, right?
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You know, I sat at his trial for two weeks and, you know, I heard quite a bit of testimony on him.
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And what ends up happening is you start to kind of realize, like, you know, this is weird.
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Like, these guys must have had some kind of fucked up upbringing to be able to allow this because allowing another guy to smash your girl is 99% of men like this.
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So something is wrong with you up in the up in your brain.
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And there's no way that's not going to bleed over into other aspects of your life either.
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One thing that I've noticed is that if you're a fucking weirdo in one area of your life, you're usually a fucking weirdo in many areas of your life.
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It was the second time in my boyfriend's whole life that he went to a non-denominational church service.
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For example, they don't need to be jumping up and down and screaming like it's a Wiz Khalifa concert.
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Jumping jacks for Jesus so that he can sniff around that poon, dude.
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He instantly knew there's something wrong here when you're doing the praise him bees, when you're doing the jumping jacks and your hands are flailing above the.
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That looks like a bunch of fucking female bullshit.
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It was the second time in my boyfriend's whole life that he went to a non-denominational church service.
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For example, they don't need to be jumping up and down and screaming like it's a Whiskley for concert.
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These hoes in the Protestant churches, they literally teach, they are only like a competition to see who's the most Jesusist
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So let me ask you guys a question, because obviously I'm not as well versed in Christianity.
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So I want to make sure I understand like how severe this is.
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As a Catholic, is going to a non-denominational church, like extreme, would that be considered blasphemous?
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So it's like the equivalent, if I was to give a functional equivalent, of like damn near almost a Muslim renouncing Islam.
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There is times within the Orthodox Church and in the Catholic Church where you can go to your priest and say like,
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you know, my best friend's getting married in a Protestant church.
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And you can get some special permission sometimes to go, as long as you're not a part of a worship or something like that.
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But ecumenism is what this is called, or joint prayer.
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From the perspective of the Catholic or the Orthodox, you might as well be praying to the demonic, right?
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That's the way that they would essentially see that, right?
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So ultimately, no, it's unallowed, not allowed in any way.
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And remember from the perspective of Catholics and Orthodox, if you're going to worship God, the creator of you, you're supposed to be super respectful, right?
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You're supposed to treat it like you, like imagine you were a deity.
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With a bunch of hyenas screaming and dancing and making it all about them?
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Or would you want it to be about you and the worship of you?
00:31:39.120
Okay, so no, because I was looking at the clip and I'm like, okay, obviously I'm not a Christian, I'm not too familiar, so I had to kind of figure out how severe of a violation this was.
00:31:48.000
So, okay, so it's completely forbidden to go pray at another church, like he's a Catholic or non-denominational, so that makes sense.
00:31:55.020
Okay, now that I understand the proper context, that he basically betrayed his own religion by doing that, I don't know if you guys caught on, but he has very strange and meek mannerisms.
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If you notice, his girlfriend is walking in front of him.
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You know, the fact that he went ahead and he just went ahead and did this church and went against his beliefs to follow hers shows weakness.
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And, you know, it's amazing to me how guys will concede on damn near anything to include their religious beliefs to appease a woman.
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He should be going with him to a Catholic church and saying, oh, yeah, I went to a Catholic church and this is different, blah, blah.
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But for him to do it and follow her lead, that's absolutely fucking retarded.
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You should never be in a position where the chick is trying to mold you.
00:32:48.120
Like, I would assume, I would hesitate to guess, but I would assume that he's got some money and he's probably got a good job, works in finance or something like this.
00:32:54.720
And she's seen him and she's thought, yeah, I could mold him to be a long term partner that would be good arm candy for me.
00:33:01.940
But it should definitely be the other way around.
00:33:03.880
Now, remember when it comes to one last thing to remember that she put this on the Internet.
00:33:08.160
So like now that you guys properly explained to me how egregious this is in the in the in the Christian faith, she put that on the Internet, too.
00:33:15.860
So that goes to show another level of disrespect.
00:33:18.080
Now, it's funny, you know, some Roman Catholics may disagree with me about prayer with heterodox.
00:33:26.180
But in Orthodox, that's just not allowed, period.
00:33:29.660
But in Roman Catholicism, at least the Roman Catholics I've talked to who are priests, clergy, and then, you know, men of stature within their church, they not only frown upon it, but they're just like, no, no, you're not allowed to do it.
00:33:41.980
So there's a lot of base Catholics, I must admit, a lot of base Catholics.
00:33:47.620
Today's hot take is that being a simp is actually so attractive.
00:33:51.800
Guys will fully bully each other about being a simp.
00:33:58.220
And I just don't get why they get bullied for it.
00:34:00.240
Like, it's so attractive, a guy knowing what they want and like being obsessed with you and like adoring you.
00:34:07.620
Womanese, Maran, do you have a womanese translation for us?
00:34:10.060
Please allow me to walk all over you, benefit in the process, and then reserve the right to leave you at any time because you've completely turned me off by following my lead.
00:34:25.840
I also think that there is with these chicks on the internet, they will say something like this, which is like a dog whistle for all of the simps who come and send them money and who come and give them all of this unrequited attention.
00:34:39.360
And so they'll do these videos where they'll say, simps are great.
00:34:41.740
And then you'll get all of these fucking retard simps coming in and giving them all of this attention and sending them money.
00:34:48.060
Well, but they also, it's also rage bait, right?
00:34:50.400
So the whole idea is to bring in, so the idea from these women, and they're not coming up with this shit themselves, right?
00:34:57.440
They have producers and various people like this who give them these ideas for these videos.
00:35:01.260
And the principle and the point of it is if you enrage enough people, they come and tell you you're stupid, you're an idiot, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
00:35:09.400
This equally brings in as many white knights to come in and be like, oh, no, my lady, no, my lady.
00:35:18.680
So it's almost like, in a way, by giving the attention that direction to the rage bait, you're inviting the white knights to come in and drop all that cash on these women.
00:35:30.780
You know, one thing that, like, if you look at, like, someone who's a professional simp gatherer, like an OnlyFans girl, right, or a girl that's involved on Twitch streaming or something like that, you'll never see them ever ostracize a group of men.
00:35:46.320
Oh, you can be 5'5", you could be 5'6", you could be fat.
00:35:53.100
Like, and what ends up happening is, you know, they'll do this, right, to kind of, on one side, they'll do this to ensure that they're able to get a steady supply of support, whether it be financially, through other things.
00:36:04.700
And what I've noticed about women, and they're way better at us than this, is they're able to put men in compartmentalized roles to serve their interests, right?
00:36:14.320
Only maybe the top 1% of men can put women in this is wife category, this is side chick category.
00:36:20.640
But even average women have three to five guys that they can contact at any time that serve them some type of utility.
00:36:27.640
One guy is Uber Eats, another guy is money, another guy is sex, another guy is sugar daddy, another guy is, well, you know, bank number two, attention.
00:36:35.540
And it's actually fantastic and crazy how they're able to do this.
00:36:40.160
And I would argue the internet, social media, and our interconnectivity has allowed this to kind of happen on an unprecedented scale, where we've gotten to a point now, women are so brazen, where they can go on the internet and say stupid shit like, oh, I love simps.
00:36:57.920
And one last thing, I'll kind of land my plane on this is, this kind of goes to show the retarded nature of females.
00:37:06.740
So on one end, they're going to say things like this, right, to come off as politically correct and polite and like an open-minded girl.
00:37:14.380
But the reality is, what they're actually aroused by and what they're attracted by is far narrower than what they're telling you, and it's your job to figure it out.
00:37:21.200
They're not going to tell you, because the things that turn women on are, it reveals their dark nature in general.
00:37:28.100
So like, for an example, women like it when you choke them during sex, pull their hair, and call them a slut.
00:37:33.060
But if she was to openly say this publicly all the time, no one would take her serious, or worse yet, simps wouldn't feel like they have a chance with her.
00:37:40.540
So she has to lie and say, no, I don't need the Chad to tell me that I'm a dumb bitch.
00:37:44.400
I would totally take you, who will value me and, you know, give me money on Twitch and all this other shit.
00:37:49.820
So women are kind of in a weird spot where they can't tell you what they're really aroused by because it would make them look horrible.
00:37:56.100
So they'd rather kind of go with what's politically correct, but the people that actually bite on that bait will never actually get a sexual relationship with them, which is the craziest part, with her.
00:38:06.600
Like, don't you think that maybe a lot of women just don't even fucking know themselves?
00:38:12.240
They're just attracted to what they're attracted to, and they don't even know what that is.
00:38:16.780
Oftentimes, you'll see in some of these megalo breakups, as I kind of review them and look at them, that a lot of times when these women are complaining, they say these kind of vague things.
00:38:32.460
You know, nothing was wrong, but something was wrong.
00:38:35.420
They don't even know what the fuck is bothering them.
00:38:37.980
They can't even articulate what the problem is and why they're so miserable.
00:39:01.600
A lot of them can't even point what they're aroused by.
00:39:03.240
They need to experience it and feel it to understand it.
00:39:06.160
This is like when I give women analogies, right?
00:39:07.940
Like some girl yesterday asked me, why do men want to have multiple women?
00:39:12.000
And instead of telling her that, you know, men like variety, I had to kind of womanize it since they're stupid.
00:39:21.580
Would it be fair to say that if you had more money, you would have more purses and or higher end purses?
00:39:28.900
That is the functional equivalent to how men feel with women biologically.
00:39:31.740
And I had to give her that analogy in woman terms for her to understand because another thing I've noticed with women.
00:39:40.260
But I had to womanize it so she could feel it first.
00:39:43.100
And this is what – this kind of brings me to my other thing that I've kind of realized is I think women in general lack empathy to the male experience completely.
00:39:51.120
Like they don't – they lack – they'll sit there and say that they're empathetic, but what I think they really are is they're sympathetic, but they're not empathetic whatsoever.
00:39:57.840
Well, what do you – when you make that distinction, what do you mean by that?
00:40:03.060
Like you have sympathy, meaning, and then you have empathy, meaning what?
00:40:07.180
So when I say that women have sympathy but they don't have empathy, I mean as in let's say you're like a fat loser guy, right, and you don't get girls or life sucks or whatever, they'll feel sorry for you.
00:40:18.220
But they won't understand where – like all the trials and tribulations you're going through because men and women have completely different experiences.
00:40:26.360
So, like, I think women are 100% capable of sympathy and feeling bad for people, right?
00:40:32.880
And I would argue they lack empathy even more so to the male experience because the fact that so many women – right?
00:40:38.520
And I've seen you talk about this quite a bit, Andrew.
00:40:40.220
I think it was when you were talking with Tommy Lahren or one of these other dumb, you know, undercover feminists.
00:40:44.440
You were basically explaining that little boys are taught from a young age how to treat women and be a gentleman.
00:40:50.480
But little girls are almost never taught how to properly treat a man.
00:40:57.580
And the thing is, is like – and how could they be?
00:41:00.320
The entire public school system is run by women.
00:41:05.020
They have complete and total control of youth academia across the board.
00:41:09.620
And everything is tailored towards little girls.
00:41:13.740
The truth is, is that, you know, mere 200 years ago, a fistfight on the playground was no cause for concern.
00:41:23.080
In fact, sometimes the teachers would say things like, yeah, they need to do that.
00:41:30.100
They go back to class with bloody noses, right?
00:41:31.780
They're fast friends by Tuesday because that's part of the male experience.
00:41:40.800
There must be all sorts of conditionals and neglect and this and that.
00:41:44.620
And it's over-psychologizing things which they don't even understand.
00:41:49.160
The truth is, is that little boys like to wrestle and beat the hell out of each other, right?
00:41:53.720
All the way up until they're, you know, in their teens, they like to do that.
00:41:56.760
And even in their late teens, they still like to do that.
00:41:58.900
But the idea that this is some massive cause for concern where authorities need to get involved in it.
00:42:04.800
Only a woman could come up with a system like that.
00:42:07.420
Only women could come up with a system like that.
00:42:09.840
And so, yeah, I think that the male experience is curtailed right from the beginning by the interjection of the feminine and never anything about the masculine.
00:42:19.560
And one of my other points that I give as to why I think men have far more empathy than women, despite the fact that they say stupid shit like, oh, we're more emotionally intelligent, is at least with men, we have to understand them to attract them and be with them, right?
00:42:33.420
They don't have to necessarily understand us to attract us because we are the ones that approach them.
00:42:37.580
So, since they're in the buyer seat, they don't really have to really qualify themselves much, right?
00:42:42.740
Obviously, if you're good with women as a guy, you understand that you do have to get them to qualify, but a lot of guys don't understand that.
00:42:47.200
So, I think with women, it's even worse because they don't even got to understand us to get us, but we do have to understand them to get them to a degree.
00:42:54.180
So, we do have to have some semblance of empathy towards them to be able to attract them.
00:43:02.800
Let me ask you guys a question before we move on.
00:43:05.420
Did either of you make a friend in school by getting in a fight with them first?
00:43:19.460
They don't get into fistfights and then become besties, right?
00:43:23.960
And it's like that kind of uniqueness to that experience is completely curtailed.
00:43:27.760
And it's just one of many examples I can give for how the school system itself is set up against young men.
00:43:34.100
Andrew, I got a question for you because I know you're well-versed in the studies too.
00:43:36.720
But I've been trying to find something on this.
00:43:40.560
Because I've always had the position that I've realized that women don't hold on to friendships as long as men do, right?
00:43:45.600
Men typically tend to be friends with their childhood friends for a very long time.
00:43:49.720
They can meet up after 10 years like nothing happened and watch an episode of Dragon Ball Z, right?
00:43:55.340
I've noticed with women, they kind of grow out of their different friend groups.
00:43:58.600
Is there anything out there that shows that men tend to hold friendships longer than women do?
00:44:07.060
And there's also some others which – so the reason that this is contested is because I believe that the last study I read on this,
00:44:21.780
So men are more likely to be risk takers, so they actually move more.
00:44:25.680
And so it's harder for them to connect with the same people group.
00:44:29.760
But they are more likely to have longevity in friendships where they haven't seen a guy for like 5, 10 years and still feel as though they're friends with them.
00:44:44.900
There was a bunch that we were just reviewing in the Discord the other night I thought were interesting.
00:44:49.700
Yeah, because, you know, we always see the jokes like women hate each other because they understand each other, etc.
00:44:53.740
And that's kind of just something I've noticed is like, you know, even like with my sister and other girls I know, like they don't hold the same friend group throughout their lifetime.
00:45:01.520
You know, where they are in life directly dictates who their friends are a lot of the time, which I thought was very interesting.
00:45:07.220
And I do think also with women, they're able to, alongside with men, they're able to kind of like extract what they need from their friend group.
00:45:14.040
Like they got girls that they go out with and these are the party girls.
00:45:18.040
With men, I just, that whole user mentality isn't as prevalent, at least from what I've seen.
00:45:25.660
Jacob, for the sake of time, too, we should probably move on to the other part of the show.
00:45:32.140
So, so we got that bogged down in too much fun combos.
00:45:35.480
Yeah, I think this kind of summarizes it, if you guys can see this.
00:45:43.140
They're always backstabbing and giving each other phony compliments.
00:45:49.980
You know, I wish I were secure enough to throw on any old thing and call it an outfit.
00:46:00.620
I'm jealous of how thick with strength they are.
00:46:10.500
I mean, that more or less summarizes it, if you ask me.
00:46:21.540
That literally perfectly, I can't even really add to that.
00:46:29.460
Now, Mr. E, I think we're going to need the other screen for this one.
00:46:39.080
But first of all, I wanted to show you guys a clip from this documentary called Till Kingdom Come.
00:46:42.640
Now, you might think that this is a parody when you watch it, but I promise it's not a parody.
00:47:02.360
Israel, their people, the Jews, are better than all of us.
00:47:11.020
A lot of people hate Israel, the Arab countries, and they want to drive in the sea.
00:47:17.660
But we know that God will not cast away His people.
00:47:19.900
When Jesus said salvation is of the Jews, He was right.
00:47:26.960
This is where, with the kids, where we start our indoctrination.
00:47:34.540
I don't know that's a strong word to use, indoctrination, that it, you know, it gives such a bad reputation.
00:47:44.140
That's where it started with me, when I was a child, that I was taught about the support that the church owes to Israel.
00:47:57.900
So all your loose change that you have from home, you bring that change to school.
00:48:04.480
Everything that we get, we will actually cash it in and make a check out to the Fellowship for Christians and Jews.
00:48:18.220
Do you think it's strange for parents here that their kids are asked to donate money to my country?
00:48:25.820
I mean, uh, I mean, maybe, I don't know, maybe there, maybe there's some people that would say,
00:48:34.180
well, what, what does the church have any business, you know, helping Israel?
00:48:41.860
I know what you're at, and I know what we're going to keep doing.
00:48:44.800
As long as I'm here, we're going to keep helping the Fellowship.
00:48:49.620
So the thing that gets me about that is that these little, little buddies did some, some mowing, mowing the lawn or doing the dishes,
00:48:56.940
getting a bit of spare change, and then it goes to Israel.
00:49:04.520
I, I, I'm glad that you, I would have thought it was a parody if you didn't give me that disclaimer, dude.
00:49:12.400
Uh, it's, it's been a real thing in the United States for a long time.
00:49:15.920
And, uh, a lot of people never even knew that it was a thing.
00:49:20.340
The easiest argument that you can make against this in the future, Myron, when it comes to dispensationalism, is just this one.
00:49:27.160
Um, so I wrote this down, I'll send it to you later, but it's the idea of converting a genetic group, right?
00:49:33.600
So the idea of the promise to the Jews is associated by these people to a genetic group.
00:49:39.220
If that's the case, if Jews have genetics that make them inheritors, how can they have converts?
00:49:46.220
Prominent biblical figures aren't genetically Jewish, especially, um, Caleb, for instance.
00:49:50.940
He was genetically a Canaanite, uh, this is modernism at play.
00:50:00.360
These are supposedly the inheritors of this region.
00:50:06.240
If it's truly a God-given right, how can you convert to that?
00:50:10.240
If the inheritors are a genetic in nature, if it's basically, if it's magic Jew blood, if it's magic Jew blood, you don't have it if you're a convert.
00:50:23.220
And they say, well, this is why we don't, you know, we're not an inclusive religion.
00:50:31.400
And I know, I know they do, but they like make it very difficult.
00:50:34.420
Um, well, I guess, no, I mean, that's, that's a fantastic point.
00:50:37.980
Not only that, if one of the, if you go right now and you look at the requirements to become an Israeli citizen, it's by blood or by what?
00:50:48.320
So if it's by blood or religion, so you can be a Jewish convert and have no Jewish background at all, bloodline, and you can become an Israeli Jewish citizen as a convert to the religion.
00:51:04.100
How can you be the inheritor of the region if there's not even a bloodline there, if you can, if you accept converts to the religion?
00:51:10.840
For instance, you can just marry in too, right?
00:51:17.460
That's, that, that's a complete, um, logical contradiction.
00:51:22.060
The inheritor of this region will be a bloodline.
00:51:33.480
So even though I see your position, basically it's regardless of the fact, um, that it's hard to convert to Judaism, it's still possible, which defeats the entire argument.
00:51:42.600
Defeats the whole argument of their beings, uh, uh, simple genetic bloodline.
00:51:46.720
And by the way, which genetic bloodline are we talking about anyway?
00:51:54.260
So, so the, the idea here, what's being asked here is who's Jewish, who's Jewish.
00:52:06.920
The question which is asked from the religious perspective is who the fuck are you talking about?
00:52:15.560
And that's what the, the argument, uh, will often boil down to.
00:52:19.840
And so, but if you take converts to converts, this is what got, uh, the guy I was debating with on, on, uh, on this very topic.
00:52:26.340
If Christians have an ought to support Israel, that, that messed him up immediately was just asking him, you know, who, if, if, if they take converts, how can they be the inheritors?
00:52:44.720
If you have a right to return to Ireland, you have to demonstrate you're Irish.
00:52:49.140
If you, there's a right of return in Germany, you have to demonstrate you're German.
00:52:52.560
There's a right of return in many European nations.
00:52:54.840
And all you have to do is demonstrate that your X amount of whatever that bloodline is.
00:52:59.800
Um, and you can do this with your family tree, or you can even do it through genetic testing in some cases.
00:53:05.000
So let me add to your argument here, because I was literally researching this yesterday on, on stream.
00:53:09.260
And I'm glad that you gave me this argument that was, I didn't think about to even strengthen it there.
00:53:13.820
DNA testing is extremely difficult to do in Israel.
00:53:17.980
It's not illegal, so to speak, but it's extremely difficult to get it done.
00:53:22.320
Um, and that, I, that adds to your argument where it's like, um, they're trying to make it more difficult to, for people to be able to establish if they actually have blood that ties to the land.
00:53:34.440
So that's why that's the distinction, which is made when we're talking about Christianity, especially versus, uh, Zionism in this case.
00:53:41.980
Right. Not even Judaism, but Zionism specifically.
00:53:45.820
Zionists are, believe that they're the inheritors.
00:53:52.080
They pretend that it's a secular movement, even though you have the temple, you have the temple movement in Israel,
00:53:58.220
or some like one third of the support of the entirety of Israel wants to rebuild the temple and this type of thing.
00:54:03.000
Right. But ultimately the, the very idea here is why Christians have no ought to support Zionism is because we believe Christians are the inheritors.
00:54:10.480
We're the inheritors. Right. So if this is the, if this is the case, right, if, if Christianity believes that it itself is the, the church is what's being referenced as Israel.
00:54:22.120
That's what we believe. Not this fucking land in the Middle East, which has nothing to do with anything, especially not the modern nation of Israel, especially is not what's being referenced anywhere biblically.
00:54:32.740
So we believe that the, the church itself is, is what's being referenced as Israel.
00:54:38.720
Okay. So, um, and I'm glad that we got on this because, you know, I was having, and that's why I kind of wanted to come on and kind of get your take on this,
00:54:45.860
because obviously we all saw the Ted Cruz interview, which do you guys want to play the clip or do you want me to just add?
00:54:52.780
Yeah, go ahead. I'll let you guys play it and then we can, so the audience has context.
00:54:56.780
Just let me know as you guys want to pause it, just say so.
00:54:59.460
Where does my support for Israel come from? Number one, because biblically we are commanded to support Israel, but number two, hold on, hold on, you're a senator and now you're throwing out theology and I am a Christian and I am allowed to weigh in on this.
00:55:12.740
We are commanded as Christians to support the government of Israel.
00:55:15.560
We are commanded to support Israel and we're told those who bless Israel will be blessed, but what, hold on, define Israel. This is important. Are you kidding?
00:55:22.960
Right here, Jake. Stop it here. So this is really important. This gets right to the crux of it.
00:55:27.940
And before you even get into it, I've also heard Charlie Kirk give the same exact argument, Andrew, but go ahead, take it away.
00:55:32.700
And I'd be willing to take them both on on it. So the idea here is, so what Ted Cruz is saying, he's making a word concept fallacy.
00:55:41.940
He's saying we're commanded to support Israel, right? Here's the word concept fallacy.
00:55:46.460
First of all, Zionists argued over whether or not to even call that land Israel.
00:55:49.960
They were going to call it Zion. They were going to call it other things.
00:55:52.820
If you go and you read early Zionist writings, they fought incessantly about what to even call it.
00:55:57.040
They ended up calling it Israel. But the secularists there, they didn't even want to call it that.
00:56:05.680
They didn't want to. And the religious there didn't want to either.
00:56:09.560
They ended up in a compromise through these various Jewish congresses that they had.
00:56:13.800
But what's so interesting about this, what this is being reduced to is Cruz says, we are commanded to support Israel, but doesn't tell you who that is.
00:56:24.300
So who's Israel? Are they talking about the modern nation state in Genesis?
00:56:29.380
Right. And Tucker Carlson goes on to ask him this. Go ahead and play that real quick.
00:56:34.100
And so we'll we'll finish the context out here.
00:56:36.880
So this is a majority Christian country. Define Israel. Do you not know what Israel is?
00:56:41.500
That would be the country you've asked like 49 questions about.
00:56:44.580
So that's what Genesis. That's what God is talking about.
00:56:48.100
The nation of Israel. Yes. And so is that the current borders, the current leadership?
00:56:51.820
He's talking about the political entity called Israel.
00:56:55.240
Yeah, nations exist and he's discussing a nation.
00:56:59.220
Is the nation there? The descendants of Abraham.
00:57:00.820
Now stop it there. Nations did not exist at this time.
00:57:11.300
The nation that is being referenced here has nothing to do with how we conceive of of nations now.
00:57:17.400
The idea that we have of a nation now is very, very recent.
00:57:23.940
This idea that Ted Cruz is talking about, Myron, comes from dispensationalism.
00:57:29.100
The dispensationalism, and I took some notes here that I want to read to you,
00:57:33.000
and I'll send these over to you after the show so that you can reference them in the future.
00:57:36.820
In essence, dispensationalism is the belief that God splits things into dispensations.
00:57:45.500
Each dispensation has a timeline and different ways in which God interacts within those timelines and plans for them.
00:57:52.340
It was started by John Nelson Darby in Britain in the 19th century, popularized by the Schofield Study Bible,
00:58:02.960
The most prominent theories popularized by this heresy are the ideas that the church in Israel are distinct,
00:58:08.640
and the covenant about land still applies to the Jewish people and the idea of pre-tribulation rapture.
00:58:14.720
So the idea here is that within these dispensations, God's promising this particular set of land to Israel.
00:58:22.500
And so this nation, which has now built itself in the land that calls itself Israel, is fulfilling this sort of prophecy.
00:58:32.900
While there was always a belief that God has plans for Jews and that there will be a mass conversion of them at some point,
00:58:39.080
this is nowhere near the belief that they are owed the land described in the Bible.
00:58:44.160
And it's a massive red flag, but it's a very common occurrence now in Protestantism.
00:58:49.380
But this has no roots in Christian history at all.
00:58:55.500
It's a modern concept which was invented in the 19th century.
00:59:00.540
So you'd never find anybody before that, any early church fathers?
00:59:15.920
The term assembly of Israel is used throughout the Old Testament and the Hebrew word kahal,
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and the term church, originally from the Greek word, it means assembly.
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The idea that two are separate is simply a lack of linguistic knowledge or intentional subversion.
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It's like saying Yeshua and Jesus aren't the same person because we call, we say Yeshua or we say Jesus,
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And St. Paul uses the term church in the wilderness in Acts 738 to describe Israel in Moses' time.
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So what's happened here is Ted Cruz has fallen, and you can find, I'll send you all the supporting biblical verses for this as well.
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But what Ted Cruz has done is he has bought into this Schofield Bible idea that when it says you will be blessed,
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those who bless Israel, that they mean this little ground of dirt somewhere in the Middle East.
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Those of you who bless the church will be blessed by the church.
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So the whole thing, this whole thing is just all based around a word concept fallacy,
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And by the church, you don't mean the building rut?
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The Orthodox Christians we would consider to be the church.
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So just so I make sure I, and I'm going to kind of say back to make sure I have this summarized right,
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Um, so basically it seems to me like this is kind of what was an opportunity to slide
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in a term to a convenient definition to justify what's going on here with the modern day of
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Israel, where it's like, oh, they both happen to have the same name or reference this stuff
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from this Schofield Bible and, uh, you know, kind of contort, totally contort context and
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Um, and it's interesting that you, it seems to me like the Schofield Bible is the root
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Try to, try to understand it in, in the, in this context as well.
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When the church splits, the Catholic church splits off from Protestant sex, it was a free
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Many of the cults of the 19th and 20th century and 18th century really, uh, started to really
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The idea of being able to take things that people considered holy bastardized them to
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And I'm talking about sex cults and everything else you can imagine all in the name of Jesus.
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But we can track the roots of church history back and see what was actually said by our church
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fathers and what, how they described this phenomenon.
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They were very clear on what Israel meant and that had nothing to do with a patch of dirt
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And that tradition continued on, by the way, that's also the Roman Catholic position.
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Roman Catholics also don't believe, uh, that Israel is referencing this little spot of dirt
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in the middle East has nothing to do with a modern nation state nor its government.
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And by the way, does that mean that we need to support this government in all atrocities?
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What if the, for instance, here's a good question to ask people, Myron, if you're a Christian
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And you say that God's commanding you, that you must support this modern nation state.
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If they take up arms against Christians, what do you do then?
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What is, what is the, like, what's the fallback there?
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If they take up arms against Christians, do you then have to support them in doing that?
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And of course they'll say, well, no, well, why not?
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I thought the whole point was to, that we had to bless these people regardless of what
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Even if it was the case that you felt like you needed to bless Israel, does that mean
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unconditional support for whatever modern Israeli government is there?
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And could it be that opposing Israel's government on some things is the best thing for the people
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So it's not, it's not so cut and dry as just, well, we have to support them because we have
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So what, so we know with, with the Schofield Bible, and then you mentioned basically that
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once the Orthodox, once the Protestants split up the Orthodox Church, this is kind of what
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Well, the, well, the cat, there was a schism first between Orthodox and Catholics.
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The Protestant schism came a long, long, long time after this headed by Martin Luther.
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So would you be able to, so which forms of Christianity take your stance, right?
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And obviously Orthodox Christianity does, which Catholicism, which you described, versus
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which ones take the evangelical route where they, you know, misquote this whole Israel
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And dispensationalists, just so you know, they're actually a minority, even of evangelicals.
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So the dispensationalists who believe this, that, that, uh, Israel is what's being mentioned,
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the modern nation state, and that Christians must just support it no matter what.
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That's actually a minority of Christians who believe that, even within Protestantism.
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And, uh, and the Catholic Church rejects it, and the Orthodox Church rejects it, right?
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And the Catholic Church is, I believe, the main denomination globally with, uh, the sect
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with the most amount of what you would consider, uh, to be Christians, right?
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So if this is the case, then it's actually rejected by far more than who accept this theology
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So what percentage would you say of, you know, of the Christian community, of everyone
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How many Christians believe in dispensationalism?
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Um, uh, Maren, you should look up, uh, Martin Luther, who led the Protestant Reformation.
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So if you ever get Lutherans who argue for this, then you can point out that book.
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So you're looking at, uh, 25% of Americans are evangelical Protestants.
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I I'm guessing that, uh, Pew Research has done something more modern.
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But somewhere there is going to be somewhere around 15 to 20% probably of, uh, evangelicals
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Now I don't have great evidence to back that number up.
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I don't want to say I, um, uh, pull it out with great evidence, but I, I still think
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it's even a minority of, uh, of Protestants who would believe that, but we would have
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to dive into the, uh, specific what, the way that we could do this, we could dive into
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specific Protestant sects who do believe this theology and just do a head count.
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How many of them are counted inside of that sect or how many of the churches report are
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And then we'd have a good number of the percentage of Christians who would actually believe that.
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It tends to be the Orthodox and the Catholics who push back against this.
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As far as I've seen, I haven't really seen that many Protestants pushing back against
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And, uh, they, they have a complete, so you got to understand even among Protestants,
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The idea of high church where they actually adopt a lot of kind of Catholic ideas and this
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I've seen, uh, many Calvinists reject this as well.
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It just depends on which ones you're looking at.
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There's some, I think that there's even some Southern Baptists who reject this, but we'd
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I'm not, I don't feel comfortable saying exactly how many, I just know that even among global
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I, I, you know, because the thing is, is like, uh, you know, you see people like Ted Cruz,
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Charlie Kirk, you know, put this stuff out there and you know, there's some of the,
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they're huge conservatives with like a huge platform that reach a lot of people.
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And, um, you know, and Charlie Kirk is one of the biggest, you know, he's out there on
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these college campuses saying, you know, those who bless Israel.
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I've also heard the phrase, those who bless Abraham.
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Is that, is that what it actually says in the Bible or, uh, where does that?
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Cause I know I, I'm assuming when Charlie Kirk says those who bless Israel and Ted Cruz,
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And the thing is, is like that again, that has nothing to do with any, what none of this
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has anything to do with the modern nation state, which was formed in the middle East by a Zionist
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And they had been sending, there had been pilgrims going to that land, Jewish pilgrims going to
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And they got along with the local natives fairly well, right?
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The religious Jews who were making these pilgrimages back and forth to Palestine, there wasn't
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The conflict really started when the, uh, nation was allowed to establish itself because
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So, uh, ultimately the, and here's the other thing, here's the other argument that I think
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Israel has not fulfilled its promise anyway of safety for Jewish people.
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There's more Jews who live outside of Israel than live inside of Israel, right?
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More Jews live outside of it than inside of it.
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And the ones who live inside of it are constantly at risk of death from missile attacks, from
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And the early Zionists made the argument, Hey, look, their Western nations are beginning
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Um, you know, and, and they're, they're actually being pretty good to us.
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Establishing this nation could really set us back.
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Uh, and now we're going to put all of the Jewish people in one spot to attack.
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And lo and behold, the more, more Jews are actually exiting from Israel than are coming
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They're actually leaving more than they're coming because, uh, they actually find that
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the Christian nations that they're in protect them better than the Jewish state does that,
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that they say needs to be there in order to protect Jews.
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Why isn't it just the case that if, if, uh, if Jew, Jewish people in the Jewish state need,
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uh, Christian nations for protection, then why not give Israel to the Christians?
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I mean, with the Orthodox church over the tomb of Jesus is there.
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Give it to the Christians and then you'll be protected.
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Why is it that we need to endlessly give them weapons and guns and this and that?
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Then if it, if you want to be protected and you want to still practice Judaism, shouldn't,
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shouldn't the Christian doctrine be to also convert Jews?
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So none of it makes any sense, but Israel itself has failed in its own promise to protect
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When you, uh, debated that fat loser, um, apostate or whatever his name is, um, you know, on,
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on this topic of, you know, supporting, uh, you know, Israel and everything else like that.
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Um, one of the arguments that you used against them, which I thought was a very strong argument
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was, um, them trying to rebuild the temple for the antichrist.
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Um, and I thought it was a fantastic argument, right?
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Um, can you quickly explain that to my audience, uh, about, yeah, so the idea temple amount
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right now as we speak, yeah, the idea that there's an organization you could call, it's
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You have to understand that American evangelical support for the temple project is huge.
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You're talking about an organization which has a million plus members, the entire, or
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Now I think actually the amount in the organization, I'd have to check my debate notes, but now that
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I think about it, I think that the actual member members of this organization are higher
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And I think that there's, I think there's actually like 10 million people who are a part
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of the organization, which supports the temple project in America.
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I don't remember the organization's name off the top of my head.
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Someone in the chat will probably remind me, but anyway, it just works like this.
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Uh, the antichrist, I'm not making this claim that the antichrist, uh, would come out of
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Israel, but any, anybody who comes that the, that a Jewish nation would declare as
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being their Messiah is, it has to necessarily be antichrist to us.
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And the guy I was debating with conceded this point.
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Because they would have to say Jesus was not Christ.
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Therefore they're denying the divinity of, of our Christ, right?
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They have to, they have to literally say, Jesus is not Lord.
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And this guy who we declared him the Messiah is, uh, he is the Messiah, right?
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So from our view, whoever they claim to be the Messiah is going to be antichrist, no
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Now, perhaps not the antichrist, but is going to be antichrist.
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So why would we ever support a nation which is trying to name antichrist?
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That's, that's the stupidest thing I ever heard.
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And you have one third of that nation, which supports these projects, perhaps more than that.
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So would it be fair to say just off that alone, you've pretty much, cause that's one of the
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strong arguments, the one you came up with before where, um, they allow converts, which
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is, you know, antithetical to their stance that it's supposed to be a bloodline type affinity
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to the land, um, between that and then the, and, and the whole temple about, would you say
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Oh, and then the third one would be that when they say Israel, Israel doesn't mean the modern
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land and government rather it means the church.
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Of course, the first from the theological perspective is that is who is Israel, right?
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The second you ask one of these people who Israel is, it becomes convoluted immediately.
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Is this, are you talking about a genetic bloodline?
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Does it have to be the same government or can the government change hands?
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They have no answers for any of these questions.
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That's the theological side on just the pure logic side, though, the idea that Christians
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have some sort of moral ought to support a nation who has a, a massive amount of people
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inside of it who want to name what we would consider antichrist, a person who would necessarily
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have to deny that Jesus Christ is God and the Messiah of all has to be categorically rejected,
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just like we would reject any, any nation which said that it needed to be ruled by any of what
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In this case, let's say, um, like, uh, some, some Muslim, uh, uh, sex said that they had some
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We would instantly categorize that savior as being antichrist, right?
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Meaning literally what the words say, anti-Jesus Christ.
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If you declare yourself as the Messiah, you have to be declaring that Jesus was not.
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If, if you declare a Messiah, you have to declare Jesus Christ wasn't the Messiah.
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And if you're going to do that, you're antithetical to Christian ethics, and I'm going to reject
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And even if you say that there could be a Messiah, that you're expecting a Messiah,
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So real quick, just, and forgive me for not, you know, I'm learning so much right now when
01:15:26.880
Now, obviously their belief is that a Messiah is going to come and you're saying by them even
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What is the, what is the Christian view on Jesus's return then?
01:15:38.120
Yeah, so I mean, when, when Jesus Christ returns, it's be, it's because the world is basically
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in such a state of decay that his return is necessary to set all to rights.
01:15:50.780
But from our view, the Messiah has come, the Messiah may return, right?
01:15:55.600
But they're not waiting for the return of a Messiah.
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The Jews rejected Jesus as being a false Messiah.
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And then, uh, the, uh, certain sect of them demanded that Pontius Pilate crucify Jesus Christ.
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They, they demanded it, demanded that Pontius Pilate crucify Christ.
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So from their perspective, their Messiah has never come.
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So any Messiah that they name is necessarily going to have to say Christ was, Jesus Christ
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So what they're doing is they're rejecting the, imagine these people are so fucking stupid.
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The, uh, the guys like Charlie Kirk and this and that, they're so dumb that they actually
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will allow another nation to move towards naming Messiah, right?
01:16:41.760
Naming their Messiah, which they know will necessarily be rejecting Jesus Christ as the
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It's completely antithetical to their own Christian ethics.
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You can't, you can't support a false Messiah or the people who are supporting a false Messiah.
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And I just want to make sure, I know this is rudimentary Bible stuff, but I'm an outsider.
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So I just want to make sure I understand this properly.
01:17:08.640
So in the Christian faith, Jesus was the Messiah.
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However, the Jews believe by which obviously they rejected him.
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He was never the Messiah, hence when he got crucified and their Messiah is still waiting.
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So when that guy comes in that, yeah, I see your position now that because they've already
01:17:31.740
So they're looking at it like, this is the real Messiah.
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That's completely antithetical to your belief where he's already come.
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So they would have to be, they would have to be denying that Christ is the Messiah, which
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would basically be saying that Christianity is untrue.
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All Christians are, you know, delusional and they have a false faith.
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It would be completely and totally against Christianity to give any support to that whatsoever,
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to give any, and so what these people do, they justify it by saying that they're accelerationists.
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They're trying to accelerate the end of times, Myron.
01:18:06.460
The view is by us supporting the temple and them naming false Messiah, that will make Jesus
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So they want to, so these evangelicals and these people that believe in this stuff, they're
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assisting the Jews with getting the Messiah, their Messiah here, even though that's antithetical
01:18:35.800
It will accelerate the end of times for Christ's return.
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So they're trying to trick God into making sure that God will send Jesus back sooner
01:18:50.300
So what are they supposed to do when their Messiah comes and then Jesus comes?
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Like, what's the, what's the, what's going to happen?
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What they think is that they, you know, as the antichrist rises, um, that, you know, when
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Jesus Christ comes back, he will put all the rights.
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But the Orthodox position is that you're not supposed to try to usher in the end of times,
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That's not the goal of Christians on this earth.
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The goal of Christians on this earth is to spread the word, the good news that Christ has
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come, that Jesus Christ has returned, and that we already have an acceptance into paradise.
01:19:35.260
And we're supposed to be a reflection of Christ on earth.
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We're not supposed to be trying to usher in such a state of decay and madness on planet
01:19:53.740
And I want to make sure I have this really sharp here.
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So evangelical Christians, Orthodox Christians, everyone believes that Jesus will come back
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I'll say Catholics and Orthodox Christians, to make it simple, they believe he's going
01:20:11.980
The evangelicals believe, hey, why wait till the end of times?
01:20:18.520
Let's help the Jews get their Messiah back, because that will signify end of times.
01:20:25.680
Well, they expect that then, after that happens and Jesus puts it all to right, then they'll
01:20:32.540
Many of them believe in a rapture, an idea that before all the bad stuff happens, they'll
01:20:41.540
They believe that they'll just be teleported into heaven.
01:20:47.380
Some believe that they won't be raptured until after the fact, but they think that they're
01:20:50.480
doing God's will by accelerating Christ's return, which means that the globe is in such
01:20:57.400
Think like Noah's flood level state of decay, right?
01:21:00.500
Where everybody's so fucking evil and decadent that there's no choice but for Christ to come
01:21:05.600
back and make his triumphant return on the earth.
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We are not commanded as Christians to assist in ushering this in.
01:21:13.240
We're commanded as Christians to spread the good news of Jesus Christ on this earth and
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that you have salvation now, not to try to usher in fucking Armageddon.
01:21:27.060
So are they hoping that when Jesus returns that he'll convert the Jews that brought back
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Well, now every knee will bow and the Jews will be converted.
01:21:38.460
But the point is here is that regardless of what they think the process is after Christ
01:21:44.800
comes back, their duty here is not to try to usher in the end of the world and the battle
01:21:50.400
of Armageddon in order to destroy the planet so that Christ will come back and fix things.
01:21:55.840
That's not the commission of Christianity at all, not even a little bit.
01:22:02.680
Mission of Christianity is to assist in a better world for everybody, for your ancestors, for
01:22:08.440
your children, by utilizing the ideals of Christian ethics and the power of Jesus Christ.
01:22:13.800
You're not supposed to be trying to usher in fucking Armageddon.
01:22:18.280
But not only that, just think the various ideas which go into justifying this insanity.
01:22:24.720
It's insane, one, that you would ever support a potential antichrist, potential antichrist,
01:22:30.880
and it's insane, too, that you would ever, in any way, shape, or form, try to accelerate
01:22:44.680
You know, and this isn't the first time that I've seen, like, this trickery of let's fool
01:22:49.700
I know, like, there's some, you know, customs in Judaism where, you know, they kind of get
01:22:55.180
around the whole not using technology by doing this and doing that, and they have all these
01:23:01.560
So, you know, this adds just a little bit more fuel to the fire where it's like, yeah, like,
01:23:09.480
Well, a lot of that stuff, a lot of that stuff in Judaism comes from the Talmudic principles.
01:23:23.520
It's about things like what kind of pants you can wear.
01:23:27.120
It's about everything you can think of they've debated.
01:23:31.400
And so that's where the idea of, like, we can't use technology on the Sabbath and this
01:23:38.840
I think a very popular talking point is in the Talmud, Jesus is burning in human excrement
01:23:47.980
So, when I hear, because I try to listen to both sides, when I listen to the Judaism point
01:23:53.020
of view, they say, no, that, you know, just like you said, the Talmud is, you know, 20,000
01:24:01.140
It was taken out of context or whatever it may be.
01:24:03.000
Um, what would be your counter-argument to that when they say that the Talmud is, uh,
01:24:09.400
it's not necessarily, I guess, law, rule of law?
01:24:16.740
So, I mean, they're essentially telling the truth there.
01:24:24.980
I remember I was talking with Adam Green about this as well.
01:24:27.520
And I think even, I think he agreed with this as well, that the other side was saying,
01:24:35.900
Now, you have to remember the Talmud is really strange.
01:24:40.460
Uh, at least what's publicly available is a very strange read because they use these
01:24:45.560
bizarre presuppositions, which have to go into their debates.
01:24:48.940
They have like three specific presuppositional rules or two presuppositional rules, which have
01:24:53.720
to go into their debates and they can't move outside of these presuppositions when they're
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Maybe a rabbi could explain to you better, but it's very difficult when you're reading
01:25:10.580
The way that you and I would do debate or discourse, you know, we're doing hypotheticals and things.
01:25:15.220
Those aren't confined by certain rules, but the way that they debate is actually confined
01:25:24.560
Yeah, and I think like they've kind of been able to use that nebulousness, you know, to
01:25:29.280
their advantage to kind of shield, you know, what they're really saying.
01:25:32.900
So, would it be fair to say that their belief is that they think that Jesus is burning in
01:25:40.540
Or was that just one bad rabbi that said something disrespectful?
01:25:47.180
I think that there's a lot of Jewish people who believe that and a lot of Jewish people
01:25:50.040
who don't remember there's this is the and this is the problem, right?
01:25:53.920
When we're breaking this down, we're breaking this down by religion or ethnicity, right?
01:25:58.460
It's a very strange because it's a it's like an ethno religion.
01:26:04.760
So because of that, it's it's harder to break the concepts down when you say things like
01:26:11.000
It's like, well, which ones are we talking about the ethno atheist Jews or are we talking
01:26:16.320
about, you know, like which Jews are we talking about here?
01:26:19.080
Are we talking about temple Jews or a lot of yeah, we like so it's it's difficult to
01:26:24.740
So when it's narrowed, though, then it becomes easier.
01:26:26.860
Like when we when we divide it out, like what a temple Jews believe about this, what
01:26:31.040
is you know, what is the Orthodox Jews believe about this?
01:26:34.160
What a messianic Jews think about this, then we can start to try to, you know, kind of pick
01:26:39.900
But it's super difficult to even track it because a Jewish people see themselves as a
01:26:48.700
But we're still divided in beliefs when it comes to religion, theology and the state of
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There's people who study at their whole lives and they don't really get too much closer to
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understanding it than when they started out because of that division.
01:27:08.260
Shit. So, OK, so that that, you know, and obviously, you know, they don't they're not
01:27:18.320
You know, they don't think that, you know, Gentiles should even be able to have access
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So, I mean, I guess that's kind of why it's difficult to understand.
01:27:27.920
So I guess is that just a bad position to take altogether when when people are criticizing
01:27:34.800
Because people a lot of people use that verse to say, look, these guys hate Christians.
01:27:39.940
Yeah, well, I mean, I mean, and it's I I don't think that you could fairly square it and say
01:27:46.300
point to that and say this is our proof or evidence that Jews hate Christians, that I
01:27:51.580
think that you could say this is in the Talmud and at least gives us some evidence that that
01:27:57.220
Jews at the time and at least in modernity, many of them probably believe that this was
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a false messiah who just got what he had coming to him.
01:28:04.800
I'm sure that that's the case with some sects of Judaism.
01:28:08.000
But the issue is, yeah, but the issue is, is like trying to when you take a people group
01:28:15.600
in general, right, and you kind of try to dissect it or you try to figure out what what this
01:28:21.360
sect believes, that sect believes, just take like the American political establishment.
01:28:29.860
We have conservatives and liberals and progressives and postmodernists and fucking communists
01:28:37.220
And it's like there's it's so many different kind of broad ideologies that it's hard to
01:28:45.360
And so one thing I learned from debating is that you want to get right at the root immediately.
01:28:51.640
Like who gives a shit if they said it or didn't say it?
01:28:54.240
Ultimately, at its root, we have no ought to support Israel.
01:28:58.020
And at its root, we have no ought to support Judaism.
01:29:01.200
And at its root, we have no ought at all to to be trying to usher in the Antichrist.
01:29:08.420
So like all the other shit that comes along with it, it's just tangential to me.
01:29:14.900
It has nothing to do with the pillars themselves.
01:29:17.720
And those are the things that I prefer to attack.
01:29:22.160
So would you say your strongest argument when you attack it at the root is the argument
01:29:25.940
we talked about before where they're trying to literally bring in the Antichrist?
01:29:29.280
Is that your strongest argument towards that worldview, I guess?
01:29:32.020
Like Christians shouldn't have an ought for it.
01:29:34.740
I think that I mean, and not just that, but the acceleration towards trying to usher in
01:29:45.320
Imagine going to a rational person as a Christian evangelist.
01:29:52.920
And you go, well, you see, what I want to do is I want to assist Israel with naming what
01:29:59.480
I would consider an Antichrist to be so that we can usher in the end of times and go through
01:30:05.160
a trial and tribulation where perhaps hundreds of millions or billions die so that Jesus Christ
01:30:24.720
Why would a rational person ever convert to that?
01:30:28.420
Yeah, no, I mean, that's a fantastic point that it's.
01:30:39.340
But yeah, I mean, who would ever sign up for that?
01:30:45.320
So the dispensationalists also hide their own agenda as well.
01:30:49.860
They don't really come right out and tell you that a lot of this is what they believe,
01:30:55.900
They're just as much at peril here as the very people they're supporting, right?
01:31:03.720
America would not have nearly the incestuous relationship that it has right now with the
01:31:09.780
political body of Zionism or Israel were it not for dispensational evangelical ideology
01:31:19.640
And even the Protestants who right now hate my guts are not going to dispute that that's true.
01:31:26.980
Without the kind of Protestant sects pushing dispensational ideology and the idea that
01:31:34.020
Israel is the chosen, the nation of the chosen people and that they must be supported by the
01:31:39.520
richest nation on earth no matter what, that is 100% responsible for the incestuous relationship
01:31:52.160
We need to give them whatever they want because that's how we get blessed.
01:31:55.580
He just made the whole argument for me, didn't he?
01:32:00.200
By using like a key term and kind of bastardizing it.
01:32:08.740
I'm trying to think if there was one other thing I wanted to ask you, I know we got to
01:32:14.680
We got a few more minutes if you want to get some final thoughts out there, Myron.
01:32:18.080
I mean, I'm, you know, I'm, for me, this was, I just kind of wanted to get a lot of my
01:32:21.640
questions answered on this stuff because there's so much back and forth on this.
01:32:24.600
And I know someone that's, you know, from the Orthodox Church that understands this at
01:32:27.580
a deep level, you'd be able to answer somebody.
01:32:32.900
The IHRA right now is trying to define anti-Semitism with a multitude of different definitions.
01:32:38.820
One of them that they're pushing to move, if they haven't already, is that saying that
01:32:46.760
Can you kind of give us the lore on that and the true background and whether they're, you
01:32:51.820
know, whether it's a lie, not lie, or from the, you know, theological perspective?
01:32:59.000
And I don't even think that this would be disputed by, by, yeah, even, no, I don't think
01:33:08.580
Um, the, uh, the sect of Judaism, which was demanding the head of Christ.
01:33:20.760
Um, and I'm not going to like bullshit people and say it was cause it wasn't, but, uh, it
01:33:26.620
is indeed the case that when he was in front of Pontius Pilate, a Roman pagan, the person
01:33:34.040
who could determine whether or not he lived or died, Pilate said that he did not see any
01:33:48.900
He gave them the choice if they wanted him crucified or not.
01:33:52.700
And they, that sect did indeed choose to crucify Jesus Christ.
01:33:57.500
So that's what's being, well, I don't think this is not a reflection again of all Jews.
01:34:04.740
That's just factually, that would just be theologically incorrect.
01:34:07.880
So yes, it's, it, it was a specific, it, and very specific sect of them.
01:34:13.040
But it wasn't the other Roman pagan people that were in the crowd.
01:34:30.420
So when he, when he's saying like, do, should we kill Jesus or not?
01:34:33.860
And then the crowd responds to it, would there have been Roman pagans in the crowd or would
01:34:40.460
No, no, they ultimately, I'm saying that the sect of Judaism ultimately had the choice.
01:34:45.080
They were ultimately given the choice as to whether or not they wanted to do it.
01:34:49.020
Or they, in fact, he gave them the option to crucify a criminal.
01:34:53.160
It said, we could crucify the criminal or Jesus.
01:34:57.420
So that's what they're referencing when they say the Jews killed Jesus.
01:35:02.460
But, you know, is that, is that a fair comparison?
01:35:09.940
I don't think it's anti-Semitic when, I mean, the reference there has just always been
01:35:13.640
that Judaism itself, from a Christian perspective, is corrupting to the soul because they reject
01:35:22.560
So they're killing Jesus in a certain sense, whether they crucify him or not.
01:35:27.680
Every single time they deny that he's divine, they're killing Jesus.
01:35:31.780
That's what the, I mean, that's what the point of that always was.
01:35:34.980
The point of that was not to just talk about the physical nature of putting Jesus on a cross,
01:35:41.520
but the denial of the divinity of Christ is to kill Christ.
01:35:50.800
And the reason why I ask this is because, right, the IHRA, the International Holocaust
01:35:56.060
Remembrance Association or whatever, they're pushing to expand the definition of anti-Semitism.
01:36:01.320
And the reason why this is bad is because their definition is what the U.S. government is using
01:36:08.600
And what we could end up with is where someone who might not necessarily be an American can
01:36:13.620
come here, read scripture, say the Jews killed Jesus, and they're like, oh, that's anti-Semitic,
01:36:17.980
and deport that individual for referencing, you know, biblical scripture.
01:36:22.320
And I think that's where we're potentially headed, which is why it's problematic.
01:36:25.080
Yet they're expanding the definition of anti-Semitism to include very valid religious text.
01:36:36.320
There has been an ongoing fight going on with, and it's very strange, too, like the remarkable
01:36:43.800
silence that the ACLU has under the First Amendment when it comes to this, just like they do on the
01:36:51.080
But they're going to fight for the immigrants' rights to be here.
01:36:53.720
The truth is, is that AIPAC and various other Jewish lobbying groups have indeed wanted to
01:37:00.400
expand what they consider anti-Semitism to be, and they want penalties on it.
01:37:05.260
And I know this because they have introduced legislation and penalties in other European
01:37:12.700
I mean, this happened to, what was that famous streamer's name?
01:37:20.320
His dog, he had his pug do, like, a fucking Roman salute.
01:37:29.120
They prosecuted him for that in Scotland, right?
01:37:31.680
So it is, in fact, the case that they want the expansion into that.
01:37:36.520
It's illegal to put, to raise your arm in the direction.
01:37:46.760
Yes, but I don't even know that I would argue it on the basis of anti-Semitism or not.
01:37:55.200
Ultimately, this is the United States, and we have the First Amendment imposed.
01:38:00.420
We can do what the fuck, we can say whatever we want, and you go fuck yourself, okay?
01:38:06.900
So do I think that they're trying to expand that?
01:38:12.220
The idea that Trump was trying to move into this idea of actually putting real penalties on people for being anti-Israel was a bad, that was a bad fucking move.
01:38:23.240
That is crazy that, dude, they could arrest my dog.
01:38:32.160
And then, this is my last question, Andrew, if you want to answer this.
01:38:35.340
I'll kind of leave it open so you can answer how you want, because this might be a little bit of a toucher subject.
01:38:44.820
Obviously, organizations like the ADL and SPLC, you know, oh, this is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory, blah, blah.
01:38:51.660
If I was the type of person, Myron, who loved to do deep dives into very entrenched historic things and found evidence, significant evidence supporting a side of that, and believed it, I would never say it publicly.
01:39:17.540
So, that's where I'll leave that, but I would never state such a thing publicly, ever, whether I believed it or didn't believe it.
01:39:33.240
And that's why I kind of left it open-ended, because that's a very taboo subject, so I totally understand.
01:39:38.220
And we're on YouTube, so you've got to be careful.
01:39:43.080
No, man, I think I got a lot of my stuff answered.
01:39:47.540
I feel like I'm a lot more well-versed on this topic now.
01:39:51.960
And I would say, just to recap, the three strongest arguments is, number one, they're trying to accelerate, you know, the Antichrist, which is antithetical to Christian belief systems in the first place, because that rejects Jesus Christ in itself.
01:40:02.800
Two, they are saying that we have a right to return to the land based on blood, but they also allow converts, which also doesn't make sense.
01:40:12.020
And then third is when they reference this scripture in the Bible when it comes to those who bless Israel, that placeholder term of Israel really means the church.
01:40:22.840
Not the modern Israeli government that they utilize it for now.
01:40:25.880
Yeah, and by the way, Jews from their perspective, like theological Jews or ideological Jews, may dispute, you know, what Christians believe.
01:40:39.920
We're talking about what Christians themselves believe within Christianity, right?
01:40:45.800
Basically, you know, Jewish people don't get to come in and tell us what we believe about our own religion any more than Muslims do, right?
01:40:53.260
So this is part of an interfaith fight, which is necessary and should be happening.
01:40:59.360
And I wish more people would do, you know, these anti-Zionism debates and dive into what this theology really means.
01:41:06.900
The problem I had when after I did that, Myron, I went and did that debate and I completely crushed the guy.
01:41:14.300
But by the next day, there was a fucking thousand of these Fed posting fucking lunatics in my DMs and all over my fucking timeline, Fed posting all over it about, you know, Andrew thinks that Jews are evil and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:41:30.820
Like, but those the thing is, is it's just like, well, then what's the fucking point of me even doing these debates if it's going to be just a brig endless brigading from fucking people who are like, no, you have to actually say that Jewish people are evil.
01:41:46.440
Not even Nick Fuentes doesn't believe Jewish people are evil because they're Jewish.
01:41:56.620
It has to do with the theological fight when it comes to how Christians present the religion and this very, the very idea that we can reject Israel or the unlimited support of this government of Israel based on your loose biblical interpretation that we should.
01:42:19.640
And that's why I was like kind of keeping it like strictly to the book here, because you can't dispute what's in the scripture.
01:42:27.440
Like, if you say anything critical, they'll sit there and say you're anti-Semitic or some other shit like that.
01:42:31.580
And this is kind of the problem where, you know, we're quickly moving towards a potential government here in America where they might go ahead and say, oh, well, if you call scripture, that's considered anti-Semitic.
01:42:40.780
I mean, Australia, you guys are already far ahead of us.
01:42:46.380
So, you know, I guess there's no freedom of speech in Australia whatsoever.
01:42:54.220
We're very unique there in that respect that the United States does have that the First Amendment.
01:43:01.540
And it is, man, that's the one thing that's left.
01:43:06.220
That that people still seem to actually care about.
01:43:09.160
And, you know, it's really funny because in some ways it has nothing to do with politics, why people want it so intact.
01:43:14.520
People really started paying attention to the First Amendment when it came to comedy.
01:43:19.200
You know, the idea was it's like the best jokes are the most offensive.
01:43:28.100
The idea, you know, like the most insulting, brutal jokes.
01:43:32.340
And the second that those started really getting kind of oppressed and dunked on and you weren't allowed to do them anymore.
01:43:39.420
You weren't allowed to say any of these jokes anymore.
01:43:41.680
That's when people actually started to pay more attention to what the First Amendment meant.
01:43:46.340
It's like it had nothing to do with some political fight.
01:43:49.340
It had to do with the fact that people like to laugh at shit that they think is funny.
01:43:54.580
So, yeah, no, man, I mean, that was really, you know, and I'm going to have those three things and, you know, in my back pocket in case.
01:44:03.700
And, you know, like you said before, even if someone tries to come in, you know, that's a Zionist or Jewish, it says, well, that's not true.
01:44:10.040
I'd be like, no, this is what, you know, from Christianity, from a trusted source, this is what it is.
01:44:13.880
You guys are trying to bring back an antichrist, which is antithetical to Jesus.
01:44:16.900
You guys have a birthright that's based on being Jewish.
01:44:22.040
But are we talking about conversion or bloodline?
01:44:23.660
And then the third thing is, you know, obviously the famous Bible quote that Charlie Kirk and Ted Cruz, a lot of other people use to justify their support of Israel, which is, oh, those who bless Israel, when in reality, that means the church.
01:44:35.460
And I appreciate you being able to, like, explain those to me so I understand.
01:44:38.900
Yeah, well, I mean, that's the you'll find this perspective is very mainstream, actually, in Christianity.
01:44:44.980
It's just often drowned out by, you know, by other people who are on center stage.
01:44:51.080
I've always thought that the Charlie Kirk idea that he actually believes in dispensationalism is just fucking crazy.
01:44:57.040
I've always thought that that was crazy, but he does.
01:45:02.640
So anyway, with that, Myron, we're going to let you out of here.
01:45:08.040
I appreciate you coming on as a special guest today.
01:45:14.360
Yeah, no, I'm going to keep streaming on Myron Gaines X.
01:45:17.900
It's always great whenever, you know, you guys invade the chat.
01:45:21.480
I need to invade your chat one time, but, you know, it's always.
01:45:28.920
So, you know, I'll just, and I'll get what you, Andrew, on the side to kind of figure out your streaming schedule so we can make it happen.
01:45:36.480
And also, thank you so much for explaining this stuff to someone who's not well-versed in the Bible.
01:45:41.980
And thank you for giving me three solid arguments I can use now when they try to give me that bullshit, you know, stuff.
01:45:58.960
He's had me out to his studio many, many times.
01:46:06.520
It's just always finding the time and everything.
01:46:15.800
Never been out there one time where they haven't taken me out to dinner.
01:46:21.520
They haven't made sure that we weren't well taken care of.
01:46:25.000
And for that, of course, we appreciate you, Myron.
01:47:05.860
I don't know what it is, but like when I go on certain platforms, it automatically like
01:47:11.620
So you guys should be able to hear me nice and loud now.
01:47:15.520
But yeah, dude, I have to like switch because I got a switch.
01:47:22.360
Then I got a sound panel over here that I got to fucking adjust.
01:47:28.160
But yeah, if I go on Twitter, dude, or I go on someone's stream, like that service, I've
01:47:32.540
used StreamYard before and it's been fine, but that one, it didn't work.
01:47:42.120
I forgot to hit the go bind because I was so fucking figuring out the reverb.
01:47:46.120
So anyway, but I'm glad that we were able to get it handled.
01:47:50.280
I know some of you guys were saying, Myron, your mic's not loud enough.
01:47:56.180
So if my mic sucks a little bit, you know, that's not that big a deal.
01:48:00.560
You guys hearing what Andrew has to say, honestly, was far more important.
01:48:22.340
They're going to need a fucking wrecking ball to take me out of here.
01:48:28.820
They're going to need to send in the national guard or fucking SWAT team.
01:48:38.380
So we got a bunch of topics that we're going to cover, guys.
01:48:42.400
We're going to talk about Netanyahu and the approval ratings going down.
01:48:46.240
We're going to cover the Benny Johnson debate with Tyler Cohen.
01:48:51.120
We're going to cover this chick that gave a rare female W with Anton Daniels.
01:49:10.940
Well, I'll pull that up and address it later for you guys.
01:49:50.020
Before we get into the stream, quick word from our sponsor, niggas.
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01:51:04.340
So now let me read some super chats, guys, and then we'll get into the topic.
01:51:08.360
We'll start off with Gaza here, and then we'll kind of go through all the news.
01:51:15.300
Obviously, if anything is breaking, you guys already know we're going to go ahead and cover
01:51:18.220
This is a very dynamic show where you guys get to interact with me.
01:51:20.320
I read the chats from all of my OSS guys, so let's see what the OSS has got to say.
01:51:26.620
When Ted Cruz and Charlie Kirk and the rest of the evangelicals push their Bible, tells
01:51:31.040
them that Israel is chosen by God and another religion is chosen by God, shouldn't they
01:51:37.280
Why do Catholics and Christians even accept this silly-ass narrative that their Bible say
01:51:45.760
Okay, well, I understand a little bit more now.
01:51:49.060
Revaluation, two-nine states that the ones who say they're are Jays but are not in the
01:51:56.080
Nigel W. Andrew for shouting out the Calvinists that definitely do not believe in this dispensational
01:52:04.020
Ovo says, Palestinians are descended from the Canaanite people who lived in the land of
01:52:15.780
Islam says Jesus is the Messiah of God, but he's not God the Father.
01:52:20.960
Yeah, Islam accepts Jesus as a prophet, not as God.
01:52:26.700
That's really one of the only main disagreements.
01:52:29.160
Why don't Messianic Jews just become Christians?
01:52:33.360
The 1948 creation of Israel was prophesied in the Bible.
01:52:47.500
Peru says, just joined the stream, but I caught the last part of the Andrew was saying, W,
01:52:58.320
And then Radek Akasi says, fuck you two brokies.
01:53:02.320
I appreciate you guys supporting me on the OSS, man.
01:53:05.020
And I will address what happened yesterday briefly, but let's go ahead because we got some breaking
01:53:16.340
As you guys know, we cover the breaking news here all the time.
01:54:18.500
If he's trolling, bro, that you're going to get banned, bro.
01:54:31.540
Like this is because the thing is when supporters send in chats and stuff like that, he's not
01:54:48.740
You abuse my trust where I literally, uh, you know, pay attention to guys that support.
01:54:53.380
Clearly you're not an OSS member, but you hit the threshold and I was going to fucking
01:55:45.280
Um, yes, Roman illegal, but cops will still, we'll tell you, uh, off no biggie.
01:55:49.420
They just enforce the law on the people, but Aussie don't tolerate, tolerate nothing.
01:55:52.960
We voted against Aboriginal people having a say in politics.
01:56:15.520
So, um, let's go first into what's going on in Palestine, guys.
01:56:19.540
Today that both he and the first lady are deeply affected by the starvation crisis in Gaza as
01:56:24.240
health officials there say the death toll keeps rising.
01:56:29.800
She thinks it's terrible and she sees the same pictures that you see and that we all see.
01:56:35.640
And I think everybody, unless they're, uh, pretty cold hearted or worse than that, nuts.
01:56:41.640
Uh, there's nothing you can say other than it's terrible when you see the kids.
01:56:46.000
On Monday, the president said the U.S. will set up food centers in Gaza to help those facing
01:56:52.660
And he disagreed with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu,
01:56:55.760
who said over the weekend there is no starvation in Gaza.
01:56:59.400
The latest on the crisis now from CNN's Jeremy Diamond.
01:57:02.080
We do want to warn you some of this video is disturbing.
01:57:07.140
Desperate and hungry, thousands of Palestinians scramble onto aid trucks
01:57:16.000
Anything for the chance to feed themselves and their families.
01:57:20.280
This sea of desperation captured this weekend, driven by months of Israeli restrictions.
01:57:25.720
And guys, mind you, um, Netanyahu and the Israeli government has been saying for multiple days,
01:57:30.300
and Charlie Kirk, by the way, that there's no starvation in Gaza.
01:57:38.240
Amid global outrage, Israel is now reversing course,
01:57:41.980
ceasing fire in parts of Gaza for 10 hours a day,
01:57:45.640
and opening designated secure routes to allow more aid trucks to flow in.
01:57:53.700
I'm surprised that CNN and Eva is showing this.
01:58:00.520
More than 200 trucks of aid were distributed in Gaza on Monday, according to Israel.
01:58:07.540
But many more will be needed to even begin to alleviate this crisis.
01:58:12.880
As children scrape bits of flour from the beds of those trucks,
01:58:17.140
the world's leading global authority on food security says the worst-case scenario of famine is now unfolding.
01:58:25.260
Israel also allowing airdrops into Gaza for the first time in months,
01:58:29.920
sending Palestinians running to grab what they can.
01:58:34.740
Um, James, uh, 50 bucks says, uh, sorry, James, I missed this earlier.
01:58:38.680
Um, Myron and Andrew Wilson, appreciate all the content you guys put out.
01:58:41.560
Myron, you should consider having Gavin McGinnis on your show.
01:58:49.960
Um, the irony is that both, that while both extremes claim to support Palestinians,
01:58:55.400
The far left ignores Hamas' tyranny over Gazans,
01:58:57.520
and the far right doesn't actually care about Palestinians' lives.
01:59:11.300
I just learned about him via the Ali Files on X,
01:59:21.540
But as a rifle, look at this, as they're getting the food,
01:59:25.820
Chat, I've been telling you guys this for weeks.
01:59:28.320
They're getting shot at as they're trying to get the food, bro.
01:59:40.220
A reminder that it is often the strongest, like gangs who steal and resell food at higher prices,
01:59:53.720
While some manage to grab a full box, others emerge with just a few items.
02:00:13.200
They do this shit to Palestinians all the fucking time,
02:00:16.960
where they, you know, demean them and do shit like this, right?
02:00:21.000
At the checkpoints, they violate them when they search them.
02:00:24.240
They literally look at them as second-class citizens.
02:00:30.020
It's not just the occupation of them occupying them.
02:00:32.140
There's also an enormous amount of disrespect in the occupation, guys.
02:00:36.440
And I'm really glad that they're showing this shit on CNN
02:00:40.000
They're dropping big pallets of aid on the fucking people
02:00:44.440
instead of getting trucks in, like they're supposed to do.
02:01:04.900
You know, a lot of people message me all the time, right?
02:01:18.520
who's trying to advocate for men cucking themselves.
02:01:24.360
The reason why I talk about this so much, okay,
02:01:27.080
is because not only are they killing innocent people,
02:02:33.160
This is where your tax dollars are going, Chad.
02:02:53.800
Every day he would go get food for his children.
02:03:04.180
run by the American Gaza Humanitarian Foundation,
02:03:19.200
Sarvation has claimed at least 83 lives in Gaza
02:20:41.340
which by the way this is why this dipshit went on
02:21:27.020
Trump thing but then Yahoo is fucking disgusting
02:21:29.760
and dislikable to the max and he's committing a
02:21:39.020
appearance raising his poll numbers he just like
02:21:45.700
fucking full send podcast and now everybody looks
02:21:48.000
at them like the disgusting moral relativists and
02:22:00.740
giving a fucking foot massage to on your podcast
02:22:03.420
the American people at this particular point not
02:22:07.020
believe that Benjamin Netanyahu is in large part
02:22:14.480
approval Israel's military acts in Gaza at first
02:22:16.760
everyone was on board you go back to November of
02:22:18.920
2023 it's on the positive side of the ledger plus
02:22:22.880
that's when they had started the bombing campaign
02:22:26.680
point a little bit further be a little bit higher
02:22:34.260
points among those under the age of 35 get this
02:22:54.360
Gaza the American people do not like what they're
02:23:10.640
boomers are retards but the young conservatives
02:23:23.600
with the younger people that's for sure this is
02:23:56.880
enough or enough times to get your ass out of this one
02:24:01.140
it comes to Israel in general how can I mean as
02:24:05.140
Palestinians and and you know whether to recognize
02:24:08.660
because of Emmanuel Macron where do we stand on
02:24:10.460
some of those questions yeah so you know for the
02:24:23.340
plus 39 points this does not tell the whole story
02:24:32.420
aftermath of October 7th and again under the age
02:24:41.220
has simply put been a complete change of opinion
02:24:43.440
on this topic and it has been at least driven in
02:24:47.500
actions of Israel in Gaza fascinating to see those
02:24:49.300
numbers Harry appreciate it thank you those numbers
02:24:51.160
are only gonna get worse for Israel because yep
02:24:53.240
they simply do not give a fuck or that's that's
02:24:58.460
positively uh just over the moon about the fact
02:25:01.840
that how the fuck and chat there's a reason why I
02:25:06.120
like to put people that are completely on the other
02:25:07.880
spectrum of me right on on screen for you guys how
02:25:11.840
the fuck is someone like me who's considered a black
02:25:16.500
nazi a misogynist a raging anti-semite how is someone
02:25:26.880
do you guys see how we're on completely ends of this
02:25:31.100
different ends of the spectrum yet we agree on this
02:25:33.120
topic that should say something this guy is the
02:25:36.520
complete opposite of me politically and culturally on
02:25:39.660
they are massacring innocent people in Gaza that
02:25:44.240
they're gonna reoccupy Gaza that they're gonna also
02:25:46.600
try to take over the West Bank that they're gonna
02:25:48.600
they've already taken over large swaths of Syria
02:25:52.220
guys if you listen to what they say internally go listen
02:25:56.440
to Ben Gavir go listen to Smotrich when they're
02:25:59.780
talking in Hebrew to Israelis or they're tweeting in
02:26:02.800
it's nuts Israelis chat it's fucking nuts what they
02:26:06.000
say like bro they say wild shit man we need to get
02:26:12.980
rid of them they're animals they're fucking Amalek
02:26:15.500
they don't fucking hide the ball dog they're just
02:26:18.500
saying like yeah we're gonna kill them and we're
02:26:20.820
gonna take their land and that's what's up and God
02:26:22.740
wants us to have this land yeah fuck off if you disagree
02:26:24.880
that's what they say and it's like okay there are
02:26:27.940
consequences to that and one of those consequences
02:26:30.080
is you're losing an entire fucking generation which
02:26:32.680
means soon as that guys soon as the money dries up
02:26:35.240
from the US Israel's cooked you know how much money
02:26:38.540
they've taken from the US in their history 298 billion
02:26:42.960
dollars you think they get this year alone I think
02:26:48.040
so in 2025 the US is providing Israel with 3.3 billion
02:27:07.260
foreign military financing and 500 blah blah blah
02:27:22.220
boom boom it's always on us has approved over 12 billion in our arms
02:27:39.200
sales to Israel including 8 billion through a measure of bypassing some
02:27:43.400
boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom
02:27:46.520
boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom cafade
02:27:48.080
all right well we gave them four billion that's that's that's every year pretty much three three
02:28:02.100
what's a four billion you get by without that money ain't no way dog ain't no way and what
02:28:09.780
they're doing is effectively they're begging hey cut us off and just so you know when we sell the
02:28:14.220
weapons guys you know what they do we give them money and then they'll buy weapons from us with
02:28:20.200
the money we gave them that also happens and they don't have to pay it back and uh i can't wait until
02:28:27.140
the day a u.s president goes in there and says here's how much money israel is getting from now
02:28:30.480
on from the u.s donut zero in fact bitch pay us back our 298 billion dollars it was a loan surprise
02:28:37.780
right so but i also see we never have they never have to pay anything back this for you let me show
02:28:43.280
you this a new gallup poll finds that only 32 percent of americans approve of israel's military
02:28:47.960
actions in gaza 32 percent among democrats it drops to just eight percent eight eight i'll show you a
02:28:57.420
different poll later on when we talk about zoran uh but it's something like it's over 70 close to 80
02:29:04.580
percent of new yorkers say israel is committing a genocide in gaza 80 percent and it's the majority
02:29:10.140
of new yorkers a strong majority say yes we agree with zoran arrest netanyahu if he ever's ever dares
02:29:16.020
to step foot in new york city arrest him he's he's a fucking war criminal he's wanted by the icc
02:29:21.800
where's the debate and so this is what we're seeing and again just to be clear um of the the 32 percent
02:29:30.440
of americans that approve of israel's military actions in gaza understand that the overwhelming
02:29:34.740
majority of them are those psycho end times evangelical christians which we just discussed
02:29:41.260
the accelerationists which now now we really understand thanks to our boy andrew wilson w to him
02:29:47.260
now we understand that even more so when we talk about this end of times bullshit
02:29:55.180
who literally think jesus is going to come back to israel on a winged horse and like kill all the jews
02:30:01.800
and then bring everybody up to heaven for a party in the sky they're literal like apocalyptic end
02:30:07.920
times evangelical christians who are absolute psychopaths and basically in a massive cult those
02:30:13.800
are like the only people left support them and like some you know boomer idiots but those the only
02:30:18.920
people left supporting israel that's it that's it and so um in the long run i i really i mean i know
02:30:27.360
it feels in the moment like jesus christ there's like they're literally getting away with everything
02:30:33.140
israel has in total impunity they could do anything we we never cut off the money we never cut off the
02:30:38.840
weapons we always protect them at the un and so it feels in the moment like this is just what it's
02:30:44.120
going to be forever right but that's not the case because as you can see the polling among the younger
02:30:50.500
generation they're just they have no interest in this shit they have no interest and this is going to
02:30:55.200
reflect itself too that's the other thing in the electorate it's going to reflect itself so
02:30:58.940
especially when you talk about democratic candidates somebody made this point on twitter
02:31:03.600
i thought it was brilliant they said somebody can run in the democratic primary and basically trump
02:31:08.320
the democratic party by just being super over the top pro-palestine and anti-israel it's almost like
02:31:17.700
now this is why i played this video for you guys what did i say like a month ago chat
02:31:28.180
what did i say like a month ago real ones go ahead and tell me which if you the real ones are going
02:31:33.440
to know what i'm talking about does anyone remember what i said on this
02:31:48.000
i'm looking at the chat i got the tweet ready here but
02:31:59.760
i'm gonna play what kyle said one more time for you guys it's gonna reflect itself this is just
02:32:12.920
what it's gonna be forever right but that's not the case because i'll pay attention to what kyle
02:32:18.320
says and i want you the real ones are gonna know uh what i'm talking about here as you can see
02:32:23.480
the polling among the younger generation they're just they have no interest in this shit they have
02:32:29.000
no interest and this is going to reflect itself too that's the other thing in the electorate it's
02:32:32.640
going to reflect itself so especially when you talk about democratic candidates somebody made this
02:32:38.060
point on twitter i thought it was brilliant they said something's probably me then it's probably
02:32:42.580
hey man we'll see but let's see somebody can run in the democratic primary and basically trump
02:32:47.480
the democratic party by just being super over the top pro-palestine and anti-israel it's almost like a
02:32:54.500
cheat code the democratic primary is just waiting for somebody to come up and be like this is a
02:32:58.780
fucking genocide we need to stop it this is incredibly immoral we're living through history
02:33:02.920
you know why this person on my left is not fucking criticizing because they get a pack money they're
02:33:07.520
an a pack puppet go look at the numbers i guarantee you that's true in fact here i'll tell you the
02:33:11.120
number they've taken six hundred thousand dollars from a pack we're just waiting on something like
02:33:15.300
that and there will come a day where we will get an anti-israel anti-genocide president and
02:33:22.700
in that moment oh boy israel is going to be it's going to take a while but look i called this out
02:33:27.680
literally called this out so here's a tweet that i made on june 27th over a month ago let us be
02:33:34.460
painfully honest here zoran mamdani is going to become the mayor of new york city no i don't support
02:33:38.520
him as political ideology but i think there's something to be learned here right now let's talk about
02:33:48.420
okay trump campaign on peace tariffs and pushing back against the deep state transissue censorship
02:33:59.600
the works he painted kamala harris as an embodiment of elite overreach mamdani is doing something
02:34:04.780
similar but for nyc's left-leaning crowd he's not promising peace abroad he's promising war on the
02:34:10.080
rich in systems like zionism that he says fuel inequality and oppression his anti-israel stance
02:34:16.400
isn't just a side note it's a core piece of why he's resonating
02:34:25.280
nyc's progressive base especially younger voters and immigrant communities is livid about gaza
02:34:35.540
mamdani's unapologetic criticism of israel and refusal to take zionist money made him a beacon
02:34:41.160
for those who see the jewish lobby is untouchable okay so by taking an israel and anti-israel stance
02:34:50.800
it's not that his policies are good chat that's not what's getting him votes dude wants to fucking
02:34:58.800
be you know global uh he wants to literally globalize the intifada and also the board he says
02:35:03.940
all this reckless shit defund the police and queer rights people aren't just voting for him because of
02:35:09.660
because of his policies chat okay let me be very clear about this most people don't vote on policy
02:35:17.240
most people vote on liking the individual okay there's a reason why donald trump went to mcdonald's
02:35:26.100
to serve food there's a reason why he came with a dump truck with a you know neon vest on
02:35:32.020
there's a reason why kamala harris lied and said that she worked at mcdonald's
02:35:39.660
most people simply don't have the iq to understand to comprehend and understand
02:35:46.960
policy so therefore people vote based on emotions relatability and personality
02:35:58.180
and most importantly trust if they can identify with you they will vote for you regardless of your
02:36:06.880
policy your boy is oran mamdani he's doing that i'm a new yorker like you i deal with the bullshit
02:36:15.360
like you i pay the high taxes and the high cost of living like you so i'm gonna go ahead and bring
02:36:21.060
in government grocery stores i'm gonna tax the rich more i'm gonna give you guys free buses
02:36:27.140
oh that sounds good but other mayors in new york city also promise us that what sets you apart
02:36:36.660
bam with that sentence he has now differentiated himself from every other fucking politician in
02:36:50.680
new york that lied prior do you guys get it now it's not that his policies are good it's not that
02:36:58.160
they like him it's that he is a refreshing change to the current status quo when it comes to american
02:37:06.460
he's went somewhere that other politicians would never fucking go
02:37:16.120
even kamala harrison donald trump knew who the master was they knew that they couldn't criticize
02:37:23.180
oh i'm relatable to you uh i worked at mcdonald's too hey what do you think about gaza yeah it kind
02:37:30.280
of sucks are you gonna stop aids israel well they're our greatest ally they ain't gonna go that far
02:37:34.020
but mamdani running for mayor of the big the one of the most important cities in the united states
02:37:48.640
which would normally be considered a death sentence politically
02:37:53.180
he's uno reversed it and now he's using it as a fucking weapon
02:37:59.520
and mark my words i said this back then i'm gonna say it again now
02:38:03.620
one of the big traits that voters are going to look for in the next 20 to 30 years
02:38:12.320
is is this guy controlled by the zionist lobby that's what they're going to ask now that's going
02:38:18.840
to become finally it's finally going to be a viable question that voters are going to have in the back
02:38:25.660
of their minds when they vote now and that in itself is powerful and the israelis only have
02:38:30.640
themselves to blame for this their massacre on kids every day has made us really start to question
02:38:38.140
so now when voters are going and thinking about abortion and gay marriage and medicaid and
02:38:49.320
health care and the economy and inflation something that never ever crossed their mind
02:38:55.920
which was israel now is going to be on their mind does this canada support israel
02:39:01.160
and if you could display that you are not like the other politicians
02:39:07.320
and you don't for the first time in my lifetime
02:39:11.900
for the first time ever actually in american history
02:39:17.980
it is now slowly becoming a viable campaigning strategy to oppose israel
02:39:32.920
i think that's a spot-on analysis of what the fuck is going on here
02:39:39.060
and i called it i've been right about a bunch of things by the way
02:39:49.600
it'd be scrambling like a motherfucker but the society will collapse in on itself
02:39:55.040
everybody knows net yahoo is colossally corrupt
02:39:57.340
but there's also these like super religious ultra orthodox jews
02:40:05.400
they also sort of like freeloaders in a sense on the government system
02:40:08.020
and so when you have more of those people going there
02:40:13.180
right a shrinking population because you're you know you're in a war posture
02:40:16.480
and iran's shooting bombs at you as you shoot bombs at them and shit
02:40:30.120
and that needs to happen sooner rather than later
02:40:34.320
the american people are gonna be cheering that shit on
02:41:01.000
and i'm gonna oh and i'll read uh super chats real quick too
02:41:33.620
but let me be clear with you guys about something
02:41:53.900
because you guys know i'm very transparent with this shit
02:42:43.060
most other youtubers would never show you this shit
02:43:18.640
i know a lot of you that might not have access to locals
02:43:37.240
so when people say the disrespectful things that they say
02:43:46.940
like i'm being very transparent here and honest
02:43:51.380
right you can only take so much disrespect before you say
02:44:06.260
i'm really only addressing like maybe five or ten percent
02:44:19.460
or why if i stop start cutting streams on youtube
02:45:25.280
i should not be streaming on youtube whatsoever
03:21:12.320
the guy ran nypd public affairs you know he ran the fbi uh communications lapd
03:21:21.360
communications this guy's is wired with the cops that you'll get
03:21:23.720
they were wrong picture came out they corrected the description
03:21:30.900
why shouldn't it well because this is the photograph
03:21:34.580
the police scanner in new york according to eyewitnesses said that he was either a middle
03:21:39.240
eastern or indian man and because when you give incorrect descriptions of suspects who are
03:21:45.920
committing mass murder you may well cause more murders right chris if the cops or people see a
03:21:53.040
white man and think that he's the murderer well this is incorrect and you could lead to real
03:21:59.000
tragedy by doing this now everyone saw this photo this was a photo that was up
03:22:03.720
nigh on five minutes after the shooting started and so yep and i i told y'all you
03:22:08.380
remember we were live on stream when this bro the story broke chat what did i say
03:22:11.360
that nigga ain't fucking white this dude's black i called it then i was like yo look at this
03:22:15.840
fucking nappy ass hair i was like bro this is a nigga bro
03:22:19.220
literally remember guys you were live with me when we were breaking this shit down
03:22:23.620
clearly this is a nigga man and i was right he was light-skinned and he had like asian eyes i
03:22:34.880
think he's like half japanese or some shit or half asian but nonetheless he's black
03:22:38.520
oh sorry my finger slipped this was widely circulated on social media and on cnn's own airwaves
03:22:50.180
i'm so glad that we're talking about this chris i was wanting to ask you about this
03:22:53.720
on cnn's own airwaves there's a responsibility to ensure that the public is informed now does this
03:22:59.520
look like a white man to me no but i don't think john miller had said in fact i don't think i know
03:23:05.960
they hadn't seen the photo that's why i didn't understand it and then they corrected chris but then
03:23:11.460
they corrected the description he says this photo has gone out to if you watch the clip and i have
03:23:17.220
you'll see that he referred he tells aaron burnett that this photo this photo has gone out to all
03:23:22.260
the police officers and he's describing who this individual is this was widely circulated on social
03:23:27.620
media so if he's describing this photo you have to assume he's talking about this photo benny you
03:23:32.660
said they know i'm sorry no no no no i didn't say that uh hold on i said that when you're doing
03:23:38.320
something like describing some uh an individual who's perpetrating a match mike burns thank you for
03:23:43.480
the 10 gifted bro appreciate you uh you dpg um mike burned 539 thank you so much for the gifted 10
03:23:51.260
gifted on rumble bro ass shooting you should get the description correct because it could save lives
03:23:55.900
and i think that cnn has a responsibility of course the guy was you know the guy didn't hurt anybody else
03:24:01.200
he was already dead but cnn wants a race war and they're begging to get kill five p he killed five
03:24:06.060
people right so i understand i understand that he did it but i'm saying that that's not what it was
03:24:11.940
about i just feel like this is part of what i'm talking about brian and we've talked about this
03:24:16.020
before i'm not just i'm not just targeting benny i invited him on the show because i i respect his
03:24:21.620
platform but i do believe that you guys are often in the weaponization business that it's not just that
03:24:28.640
he's benny's wrong benny's dangerous it's not just that brian's wrong you know brian is wants to
03:24:35.260
destroy america and i think it leaks in to what we see around us brian look i i think i think what's
03:24:42.040
important here i mean just to just to focus on the issue at hand i mean benny presents himself as
03:24:46.920
somebody who's trying to get to the truth right the reality is that he is he is a purveyor of
03:24:52.760
misinformation and disinformation and has been for years shamelessly and relentlessly this guy said
03:24:58.380
that the 2020 election was rigged he said the 2022 election was rigged he said the fbi admitted that
03:25:03.800
mar-a-lago documents raid was over nothing he said a deep state cabal engages in predictive
03:25:09.800
programming by showing shows like the simpsons to announce their satanic plans to the world
03:25:15.620
and you had bob costas on before and he mentioned the the phrase there's a profit motive right and
03:25:22.060
the reality all right let's go through each of these systematically real quick
03:25:25.220
this guy said patient and disprove right at hand all right so what he's trying what he's going to
03:25:31.700
do here this is a common tactic that uh the left does he's going to paint him off as a crazy
03:25:37.240
conspiracy theorist so let's go through the allegations what's important here i mean just
03:25:41.400
to just to focus on the issue at hand i mean benny presents himself as somebody who's trying to
03:25:46.480
get to the truth right the reality is that he is he he is a purveyor of misinformation and
03:25:52.080
disinformation and this is one of the main arguments that the left uses against um conservatives
03:25:56.840
they call us conspiracy theorists etc has been for years shamelessly and relentlessly this guy said
03:26:03.280
that the 2020 election was rigged okay dude if you don't think the fucking 2020 election was rigged
03:26:10.100
there's an enormous amount of evidence to show that there were some serious fucking problems with
03:26:16.600
the way that the 2020 election was rigged and at at best it should have at least been recounted okay
03:26:23.040
there's there's there's a multitude of evidence there to show that something was wrong with the
03:26:31.300
mail-in ballots people destroying the the um the voting machines um the late night ballot dumps i did a
03:26:37.600
whole fucking thread on this and i'll pull it up for you guys but there you don't have to say oh the
03:26:43.560
election was 100 rigged but what i will say is this there is a considerable amount of evidence
03:26:50.560
that shows that the election absolutely could have been rigged and democrats just try to wave that off
03:26:57.300
as a fucking oh conspiracy theorist he said the 2022 election was rigged he said the fbi had
03:27:05.080
2022 election not too familiar with that i won't comment admitted that mar-a-lago documents raid
03:27:10.080
was over nothing he said uh that's bullshit because the mar-a-lago raid was was a hundred percent
03:27:17.300
uh yeah so i guess in this case benny's wrong um and you guys know me i like donald trump but i keep
03:27:25.740
it real with y'all and you guys know i know the document case like the back of my hand right we do
03:27:31.920
fed reacts over here all the real ones that watch me you guys know when trump got his house searched
03:27:38.680
and that search warrant affidavit came out me and my guy andrew esquire literally read the affidavit
03:27:44.480
on stream it was an airtight affidavit a lot of it was redacted but there was quite a bit of
03:27:53.340
probable cause in there right that actually came from the negligence of trump being very sloppy with
03:27:59.040
leaving with moving out of the white house to make things simple for you guys
03:28:03.360
trump when he moved out of the white house back to mar-a-lago fucked up his movie company
03:28:10.780
took a bunch of shit that they shouldn't have and when the house uh when the um records people i
03:28:17.300
think it's the nrc or some bullshit like that asked them for those documents back
03:28:21.080
trump couldn't be bothered and basically was negligence
03:28:26.600
and oversight that led to the fbi getting the probable causes they needed to go in there
03:28:32.320
but they absolutely got evidence and they absolutely found documents that would have put trump in jail
03:28:37.520
i gotta face reality here before i was like no man no way it's bullshit blah blah but with 2020
03:28:45.960
hindsight me looking back if he actually went to trial on that thing he would have lost
03:28:52.780
he would have lost and he would be in prison right now for espionage 100 because you can't dispute the
03:29:01.180
documents the documents are considered national defense information ndi people say oh well trump
03:29:20.160
so cohen made a valid point there if that's true what benny johnson said as far as like
03:29:28.420
there was no evidence with uh with the document mar-a-lago raid they definitely had evidence dude
03:29:33.220
i read the search warrant they found the documents
03:29:36.260
handed in the cookie jar man right now again the reason why they found those documents
03:29:44.280
is because trump was extremely sloppy and careless with moving out of the white house
03:29:50.720
where classified documents left the white house that should have never went because movers are retards
03:29:56.860
deep state cabal engages in predictive programming by showing shows like the simpsons to announce
03:30:07.280
okay um i'm not gonna call it the deep state cabal but what i will say is
03:30:12.920
we absolutely live in a gynocentric social order
03:30:15.500
that has been indoctrinating people to think that
03:30:18.320
the female way of doing things is the right way to do things
03:30:20.980
and shows like the simpsons have absolutely pushed that propaganda
03:30:34.700
how do i say this this pernicious culture of um men being subservient to women and men not
03:30:41.820
being intelligent and women being the problem solvers when in reality that's not how the world works
03:30:46.240
to the world and you had bob costas on before and he mentioned the the phrase there's a profit
03:30:53.660
motive right and the reality is that that that's why benny does it i mean benny benny benefited to
03:30:59.620
the tune of how many thousands of dollars when a russian influence campaign tenant media paid you to
03:31:05.040
say whatever it is that you went out there and said which is okay now all right uh
03:31:18.860
is a black eye on so many right-wing commentators
03:31:34.540
an influencer named lauren chen and her husband
03:32:05.440
i don't know what 1000 of the details but basically what saved them was
03:32:15.360
i think they might have declined some of the money in some situation in some other instances
03:32:32.920
and what made it more egregious was it was happening during
03:32:40.180
i think it's going to be damn near a year now since i've last seen her even tweet
03:32:47.380
now as far as benny johnson's relation with tenant media
03:32:54.640
that there was some kind of link but i don't know it
03:33:06.260
so this is another one that they use in their fucking repertoire
03:33:24.660
when you're getting paid by the russians to do it
03:33:42.320
since none of them were charged by the government
03:33:48.260
i don't know if they actually took money or not
03:34:07.000
but this is a very common talking point on the left chat
03:34:25.120
and tenant media is one of their go-to fucking arguments
03:34:36.120
i think the reason why they got rid of lauren chen so quick
03:34:38.080
is because there was proof that she took money from them
03:34:39.820
i think that's what got lauren chen so fucked up
03:34:47.100
also lauren southern got wrapped up in this tenant media scandal as well
03:34:56.180
to release this chapter about how andrew tate graped her
03:35:10.600
and tell a story about how andrew tate graped her
03:35:20.900
said that there was absolutely no russian money exchange
03:35:24.940
we were doing business with an american company
03:35:30.940
and what you've just said there is defamatory and libelous
03:35:43.880
i knew he was going to bring up the other people too
03:35:48.440
is that they were dealing with an intermediary american company
03:40:20.820
i'm saying that's what i always found interesting
03:41:07.860
like they keep fucking bringing this shit up man
03:42:35.900
do you believe that in the wake of the shooting
03:42:39.640
because he believes that they're not queer enough
03:42:51.840
i don't want to hear any more of your questions
03:44:22.140
it'll work for the relative assessment of you guys
03:44:58.280
but when a bunch of black people beat up a couple of white people
03:49:08.460
i don't think it should be dominating the conversation
03:50:07.060
i got some idiots in the chat saying it's not true
03:50:10.620
youtube niggas that are in the chat saying it's not true
03:50:31.820
how that would not fucking create a fucking riot
03:53:43.160
i'm not saying that both instances aren't horrible
03:53:48.660
one instance would create a way bigger fucking societal backlash than the other
03:54:03.780
you're going to deal with way more social upheaval
03:54:18.620
i don't i don't i don't think people care about it because the victims are white
03:54:26.840
like again i i think that it's terrible when it happens in the inner city in chicago
03:54:31.580
we regularly post the crime statistics from inner city chicago black on black crime
03:54:40.920
it's horrible and nobody wants to live in a zero trust society
03:54:46.320
do you believe that you are helping build trust or destroy trust
03:54:53.060
because there are certain stories that aren't covered factually
03:55:14.340
look even if i weren't a lawyer and a highly decorated one
03:55:18.020
the idea that i don't understand peaceable assembly is a silly notion
03:55:24.200
when people came out in the initial protests of george floyd
03:55:34.620
because uh people have different feelings about it
03:55:40.180
he says respectfully myron you don't know what you're talking about
03:55:44.020
the veil of shame is going to come on you now my friend
03:55:57.320
when a black person is attacked by a white person
03:56:00.000
versus when a black person attacks a white person
03:58:08.120
but i'm saying there is a part of the left wing
03:58:29.220
so i don't know what the fuck he's talking about
03:58:56.140
i mean isn't it a coincidence that his last name is cohen
03:59:57.640
i wasn't impressed with what you were benching the other day
04:13:12.980
and if you guys are wondering because i know you
04:14:23.260
diddy was facing very serious charges um a part
04:14:29.640
law that was put in the books back in the 1970s
04:17:32.580
trump is more than open to pardoning diddy but he wants to wait to see what the judge does
04:17:44.060
in terms of the latest bail petition as they will wait and it depends if their
04:17:49.820
diddy granted bail trump will make a decision and a pardon until diddy is sentenced if the judge
04:17:55.400
denies bail potentially a decision could be made immediately let's be joined right now by
04:18:00.440
tmz's branson corkey branson thank you so much for joining us here on live now from box and
04:18:05.140
this is interesting because previously president trump said he wasn't really familiar with diddy's
04:18:10.240
case although they were familiar with one another they were friends what more can you tell us about
04:18:18.300
right i mean this is shocking and came totally left field today just like you said we hadn't heard
04:18:24.440
him even speak about this since that one moment where he said he wasn't totally up to date on the
04:18:29.880
case and once he reads the facts of the case he can make a better decision but now as of today we know
04:18:34.900
the white house has been uh speaking with diddy's defense team and allegedly they just like you said
04:18:42.520
if he is granted bail then uh he will wait to make a decision trump will wait to make a decision
04:18:48.080
until october 3rd when he is sentenced but if he's not granted bail then trump will make a decision
04:18:55.380
immediately now the question is what is that decision going to be we know also that sources
04:19:02.000
have given kind of a reason behind why trump is considering even this uh at all basically saying
04:19:09.560
that trump feels that possibly diddy was targeted by the feds and he feels just like himself donald trump
04:19:16.460
feels that he was also targeted by the feds and uh it was uh you know just had a bad rap due to
04:19:22.720
several different circumstances but we won't know until that judge makes that decision on that proposed
04:19:28.880
bail package which we know right now has a laundry list of uh of additives to it including a 50 million
04:19:35.480
dollar bail as well or a bail bond as well as limiting uh his travel uh supervision and everything from
04:19:43.240
his miami home so he's given them every possible little thing that he could give the federal
04:19:48.180
government to get out on bail but that decision could come in the next 24 hours or so yeah the judge
04:19:53.040
initially right after the verdict came down saying they were denying bail wouldn't let him out because
04:19:58.000
violence is violence and that's what really the defense was talking about during their closing
04:20:03.020
arguments throughout the trial that diddy was violent but
04:20:05.880
all right so this is very important i gotta put attention to this so it's important that you guys
04:20:13.260
understand that when diddy was fighting this case all right his defense framed it
04:20:21.000
his defense framed it as this is the domestic violence case that went too far right and they
04:20:31.460
basically framed it as the u.s government is spending a ridiculous amount of time and energy
04:20:36.760
to go after a dude that had disputes with his girlfriend this is not a human trafficking case
04:20:44.800
this is a domestic violence case now they argued their entire case on that you know on that mantle
04:20:52.680
this is a dv case it's not grape or sex trafficking however the negative of that is you're conceding
04:21:03.320
that diddy was a violent guy and that is what the judge is using to keep him locked up
04:21:10.240
because when they when they you know assess you for bail or bond there's three main things they look at
04:21:19.020
danger to the community flight risk and then like relevant criminal history
04:21:23.800
the fact that his defense argued that he's violent but not a sex trafficker
04:21:32.380
actually hurt him it helped him beat the rico which is great
04:21:35.860
but then it also kind of fucked him up when it came to getting out on bond does that make sense chat
04:21:43.440
so um anyway let me know what you guys uh think of that give me ones if that makes sense
04:21:52.240
again i some of you guys might say my own over explaining it but you guys we got a lot of new
04:21:56.840
fucking people watching the stream bro every day there's a bunch of people right now that are
04:22:00.660
probably watching this for the first time or are not familiar with the diddy case they didn't watch
04:22:03.960
my diddy coverage when i was there two months ago so got to refresh your guys memories a little
04:22:08.940
shout out to hamza what they uh give this i appreciate you bro on rumble obviously this
04:22:15.060
not a domestic violence case uh do we expect to get to october 3rd is there any sort of timeline in
04:22:21.440
your eyes you mentioned maybe in the next couple days it changes almost daily are we aware of any
04:22:27.140
timeline well based on just what we saw before when he had denied him bail just hours after the verdict
04:22:33.940
was read saying that he admitted to being violent in his full-throated statement at the end of this
04:22:39.880
trial and that's why he decided not to release him i can definitely see the judge denying him bail once
04:22:46.080
again i feel that this bail package is very similar to one that he did before and doesn't really change
04:22:52.140
anything here it's just another last ditch effort just so you guys understand diddy's put up crazy bail
04:22:58.000
money he bought his house in miami that's worth like 50 million dollars like he had a loan on it he
04:23:03.680
paid it off before he went to jail and he used that as collateral too and they still didn't get fucking
04:23:08.300
give him bond crazy man by diddy this could be a couple days uh i know harvey levin possibly believes
04:23:16.880
that it could be 24 hours that they may make a decision on this bail package but i really do think
04:23:22.100
that the judge will deny him bail once again and if he denies him just based on the things that trump
04:23:28.360
has said and things in the past that we've seen i could very well see trump possibly pardoning diddy
04:23:34.220
yeah that'll be interesting to see and of course we talked about the sentencing that's coming up
04:23:38.400
october 3rd and some of these guilty verdicts coming down they do have an upwards of 10 years but we're
04:23:44.060
also talking to legal experts that he could just get time served so even if the pardon doesn't come we
04:23:48.620
might not see diddy behind bars uh for too long
04:23:51.380
yeah i estimate he's gonna get somewhere between 24
04:23:55.620
two years i think he's gonna get somewhere between two to two to ten years in that range
04:24:01.320
that's what i think time services is not the question either
04:24:05.920
joining me now ben rhodes former deputy national security advisor and all right israeli human rights
04:24:16.420
groups accuse netanyahu government of genocide in gaza wow even the israelis themselves are standing
04:24:21.280
all right we don't need to watch this let's go and watch this basem interview real quick
04:24:24.880
um the comments are hilarious by the way i don't want to give it away too quick let's play this from
04:24:30.180
the beginning and see what they have about i've all right everybody welcome to another episode of
04:24:36.220
the full sim podcast um this by the way i called it that they were going to bring basem yusuf on
04:24:40.980
i fucking called it you guys don't believe me i've been on a roll right now with my predictions by the way
04:24:51.280
i said this on twitter space on the full send podcast before me uh over here fresh and fit
04:24:58.800
um they would have never fit um they would have never ever fucking platformed someone like me
04:25:06.700
or nick fuentes until they needed us now to save face so i think it was a monumental failure on their
04:25:12.280
end um and now they're being forced to platform people they otherwise would have never fucking
04:25:16.920
platformed so i predict that they're going to go ahead and get the um what's the comedian's name
04:25:20.680
from egypt they're probably going to bring him on that's what i think they're going to do
04:25:23.500
yes yeah yeah we have steiny here and i want to welcome basem yusuf to the
04:25:28.880
of course um obviously and the reason why i knew it was going to be mchat is because he's a comedian
04:25:38.920
that's pro-palestine that's safe okay bringing people like me and nick are considered work
04:25:46.600
we're considered like viral anti-semites and nazis um but sam yusuf is a bit cleaner
04:25:51.880
this is actually our very first live and also guys do me a favor oh niggas live streamed it that's
04:25:59.380
hilarious all right um do me a favor guys smash the fucking like button on youtube we only got
04:26:10.260
2,500 likes but there's over 3,000 you guys in here come on episode we've ever done uh it's an
04:26:16.340
interesting one for our first live but i'm making history we're making history um we have steiny here
04:26:21.440
and i want to welcome basem yusuf to the full send podcast thank you for being with us how you
04:26:25.580
doing thank you for having me guys of course um obviously last week was um controversial for us
04:26:32.300
to say the least we had someone um on the podcast very controversial as i said to say it in the
04:26:38.160
in the least form what what was your reaction when you saw that we had benjamin netanyahu on the
04:26:43.200
well i i didn't know about what's i i am sorry to say like i because i'm not your uh demographic
04:26:49.440
so i didn't know who the net boys is but like i found my dms exploding so did you see what the
04:26:54.820
net boys did it's like who yeah it's because the net boys audience are a bunch of frat bro retards
04:26:59.900
in their 20s that are degenerates if we're going to be all the way honest who the fuck and kids
04:27:05.800
boys and then i i i didn't know that you're that big i'm sorry again i'm not your your targeted
04:27:13.220
demography so i i i apologize for my ignorance so um and then i started following what's going on
04:27:21.760
and the aftermath uh and i i being in the public eye for 15 years i understand what does it mean
04:27:30.300
to be in a very tough situation and now having to try to crawl out of that situation it's difficult
04:27:37.560
especially with the backlash because the bigger you are the bigger the backlash and um well i mean
04:27:43.720
let's be honest there's a lot of people when they knew that i'm on the podcast like yeah go there
04:27:47.440
do them you know have them and i said like there's nothing to gain from just canceling people
04:27:54.000
without knowing what went wrong because i think it is better to actually to learn from what's
04:28:01.280
happening and look at the bigger picture instead of just like you know destroying two young people
04:28:06.920
like you because that doesn't serve anybody right it just it makes people happy that you guys are
04:28:13.560
falling but the bigger picture is why did this happen and why would this uh how could were you used
04:28:21.880
a part of you is your responsibility and part of you not knowing so i heard many of the justification
04:28:28.680
that happened saying that uh well you know it was a great opportunity and i'm like wouldn't you
04:28:34.600
like get him on the on the podcast yes if somebody told me would you interview netanyahu it's like
04:28:39.340
hell yeah but i'll be prepared and i think the biggest part of you that you were not prepared
04:28:44.920
yeah that's what fucked them up it wasn't them having netanyahu on that that fucked them up i mean
04:28:51.100
that well that's a part of it but um what really fucked them up was that they didn't know how to
04:28:57.720
properly ask him questions and then they weren't able to challenge his blatant fucking lies
04:29:01.660
but again i told you guys this before i'll say it again the nelk boys just wanted clout
04:29:07.740
so they thought and i will stand on this 100 they thought if we interview netanyahu it's going to
04:29:16.300
give us credibility so we can go interview other world leaders and we'll be able to be huge like
04:29:21.620
we're going to get so much clout off this is going to be awesome here's the problem they grossly
04:29:25.920
miscalculated how much blowback they would get and now they're starting to realize oh
04:29:37.560
we lost 10 000 plus supporters maybe we gained a couple thousand israelis that like netanyahu as
04:29:46.440
supporters but we lost a lot of fucking people with this interview okay and let me be very clear
04:29:54.940
about this this actually this this brings up an even more important point right
04:29:58.580
and and i'm and this is very this is very fucking important
04:30:08.700
you guys ask me all the time myron when are you going to go on full send myron when are you going
04:30:17.320
to go on joe right all this other shit right and
04:30:20.360
i don't insult you guys for asking these questions because you guys aren't podcasters you guys aren't
04:30:27.660
influencers so to speak i hate that fucking word it's okay but you guys get what i'm saying
04:30:31.660
the world of youtube and consecration and instagram and also the bullshit is a clout chasing world
04:30:41.960
okay and when people have you on they have to strike a balance between does it benefit them
04:30:51.940
all right now there's a couple of different ways
04:31:02.340
you have a large following if you have a large following this is probably the most tried and
04:31:09.540
trusted way to get on other platforms if you have a following people want to bring you on because
04:31:16.300
their hope is to do the collab where some of your following also follows them okay number two
04:31:22.320
you have a dedicated audience to some degree right maybe you not might not have the best
04:31:32.320
audience but you have a dedicated audience that really rocks with you cult-like following
04:31:37.040
that's another way to get in a secure collapse right and then the third
04:31:43.280
is you are an expert in a field that no one else really understands okay i'll give you guys an example
04:31:53.020
john mersheimer for example isn't on tiktok doing fucking dances or um or on youtube with his own
04:32:01.920
channel right however he's a university professor he's well versed in geopolitical situations
04:32:10.660
and his academic record speaks for itself so despite the fact that he doesn't have
04:32:16.520
a large internet following on social media he has an expertise in an obscure subject that not many can
04:32:24.160
give pundit level information on cool so let's recap
04:32:29.420
in the social media world there are three main ways that you're going to secure collabs
04:32:35.220
number one you have a big audience number two you have a cult-like following
04:32:40.020
number three you are able to relay some type of information that is hard to come by you're an expert in some
04:32:48.880
kind of field this is how no-name fbi agents are on cnn former fbi agents giving their takes on things
04:32:55.960
okay these are the three main ways that you secure collaborations right
04:33:02.760
now when you guys ask me myron why aren't you on nelk etc
04:33:09.240
what nelk has to do especially with a guy like kyle because i know how he is i've heard things behind
04:33:17.960
scenes with him he's very cutthroat but i don't i don't knock him for it but when you're someone
04:33:24.300
like him or other other creators right where your goal is just to get clout and be big
04:33:28.780
you're constantly weighing bringing somebody in versus backlash
04:33:39.400
um being just brutally honest about myself so nelk looks at it like okay
04:33:48.760
the red pill is blowing up who's the biggest face of the red pill
04:33:53.700
andrew tate let's bring andrew tate on great they brought him on it was a fantastic interview
04:33:59.580
right so they were able to tap into the red pill market and pull people there and you know with
04:34:10.100
someone else has a big following now with us fresh and fit we have a big following too
04:34:13.860
but they look at it like okay um because they're unaware of the content even though me and andrew are
04:34:20.660
very different the type of content that we make they look at it like he's from this sec we're gonna
04:34:24.120
bring him on now with me they're probably look at it well actually not even i think i know all right
04:34:31.800
we brought andrew on what why should we bring myron on doesn't make sense right in their eyes and on top
04:34:36.820
of that guys right i talk about them i talk about
04:34:45.340
right so i am very well aware of the fact that i am um very controversial on a multitude of different topics
04:34:55.880
so if people decide to platform me they have to weigh bringing me on their show
04:35:05.520
and taking from my audience or getting exposure to my audience
04:35:11.720
is it worth it to justify the backlash we're gonna get from bringing this guy on that is
04:35:20.560
again this is what the media labels me misogynistic anti-semitic racist bigoted
04:35:28.320
whatever and simply put the risk to them was not worth what they would benefit
04:35:36.780
and i actually don't get mad at creators like this like i'm not i'm not you're never gonna see me
04:35:44.260
be like fuck no they didn't have i knew this from like a year or two ago i already knew this shit
04:35:49.400
that's why i never was mad about it but but but but
04:35:55.620
right remember that equation that i just told you about that they utilize to decide who's going to be
04:36:08.000
that same equation that they used to not bring someone like me on or not bring you know someone
04:36:15.080
like nick or sneak or whatever despite the fact that we have a multitude of mutual friends in the
04:36:20.260
industry right we have so many mutual partners it's like a collab should have been happened by now
04:36:26.260
with me sneeko nelk nick whatever it should have been happened but again i told you guys
04:36:33.040
kyle makes the decisions and for kyle if he ain't getting clout off it he's not doing it that's just how
04:36:38.840
he is okay you'll be i'm just being very raw with you guys it's just how he is no clout not gonna do
04:36:45.720
it he doesn't even give a fuck if it's like an expert in something like he ain't bringing on
04:36:50.800
john mersheimer to talk about the wars because of his pundit um accuracy no clout no care fine
04:36:58.560
but that mindset of no clout no care came back to bite him in the ass because he thought
04:37:04.800
bringing that yahoo on would have gotten the clout that he wanted but he made a false
04:37:10.580
he made a really bad miscalculation didn't realize that the blowback
04:37:15.580
was going to override any type of clout he's gonna get
04:37:21.620
then they dropped the interview thinking we're gonna be so fucking clouted up this is awesome
04:37:32.100
because i saw a twitter clip of him describing how excited he was for the last interview they did
04:37:37.080
they had just so you guys know they did that netanyahu interview like three weeks ago
04:37:40.620
they dropped it like a week or two later they did it a long time ago and i saw a twitter clip
04:37:45.460
of him saying oh man we got this guest it's so gonna be so lit so he was excited
04:37:49.080
they dropped the interview they didn't expect they would get that backlash
04:37:53.500
for the first time they got a guest that fucked him up this whole clout clout clout came back to
04:38:02.140
bite them in the ass so what did they do oh shit all the guys that we said we're not gonna bring on
04:38:11.160
we got to bring these niggas on now we made such a fucking big fuck up that we need to bring in all
04:38:17.820
the guys that we would have never brought on otherwise call nick call myra call cico all these
04:38:24.200
guys that we were scared about bringing because they're anti-semites we got to bring them niggas
04:38:27.780
on now this guy nannyahu is fucking our shit up right so the very calculation that they had used to
04:38:42.680
select their guests for years backfired and that my friends right for any of you guys that want to be a
04:38:54.060
creator or be a podcaster or whatever i think that was probably one of the best explained and most raw
04:39:14.100
to shit on this retard in their youtube chat named remy danstetter he says shout out bro you're coping
04:39:32.220
i literally just explained to you systematically one by one
04:39:37.080
in a concise and detailed fashion raw by the way too i've never seen anyone break break down how
04:39:43.720
collabs work in this industry before like this i want you to explain how i'm in cope
04:39:48.060
i literally just told you a story that does not paint me in the best light you stupid fuck
04:40:09.780
see shit like this makes me want to turn off the youtube stream
04:40:12.260
but then again i'm like you know what let's just embarrass these niggas
04:40:27.000
regardless uh chat give me ones if that makes sense
04:40:37.640
this this interview is going to be even better for you to watch
04:40:40.560
i need you guys to have that in your mind as you watch this interview
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give me a two if it doesn't make sense and tell me why
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i don't expect y'all to understand this on one go
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that most of you are never going to need in real life
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i truly do want my audience to learn as much as they can
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prepared two years under like the biggest genocide in our history
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you're going to be tomorrow on the starting five of the lakers in the nba
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it's like that's a great opportunity but i'm not prepared
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so it's not about you platforming someone or someone giving a chance for
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yo youtube chat so stupid but don't give me attention
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it's just that the rumble chat isn't as retarded as the youtube chat
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so take it as a pat on your back you stupid fuck
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i just happen to have more retards in the youtube chat
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bro you're the one bitching for not being acknowledged
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you're literally crying about not being acknowledged
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why do you guys think i was making fun of brandon tatum so much
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he was talking about oh i went to israel it was great
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they want you to come back and say israel is great
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or any of these guys talk about going to israel
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i want you to understand that the ability of the defense minister
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to give timely operative destructions when everything is happening is very limited
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was the order given for the hannibal directive he responds i think that's actually in various places it was given
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in another place it was not given and that is a problem
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how much more proof this is the defense minister for the state of israel
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functional equivalent would be a pdx that today he is basically the secretary of defense
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for israel okay that means he is the boss of all the armed forces to include the idf
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this is israeli media he's admitting the hannibal directive was activated that day
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some by the idf because they were shot by apache helicopters with hellfire missiles
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hamas doesn't have that there was some of them in the kibbutzes which is their homes
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i mean this is crazy now we're going conspiracy theories
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hear me out everything so this fucking retard that doesn't know anything about jail politics
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has the fucking nerve to say that i'm a conspiracy theorist
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i have the leader of their military admitting that they killed their own citizens on october 7th
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where we debunked every fucking lie from october 7th
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we only used israeli media to debunk their own fucking lies
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if any of you guys ever want to debate a Zionist on october 7th
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Israel someday as mayor should not be mayor where
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bruh Israel Mr. Mamdani I would stay in New York
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City my plans are to address New Yorkers across
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kind of world considers putting America first yeah
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fair but to make it a point that he has to visit
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even understand the purpose of him showing that
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would argue him being a socialist saying I'm not
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why would a mayor need to visit a foreign country
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but if you're staying to serve your people that
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it's it's it's crazy man it's crazy I think like
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he is trying to serve his people but he's being
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it's because he doesn't take zionist lobby money
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know you know when you you guys yep yep yep yep
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that is remarkable that is not anti-semitic it's