The Debrief With MyronGainesX - Debating Liberals On The ICE Shooting Of Alex Pretti! Justified Or Murdered？

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00:35:08.980 people they make a big show and so forth they make a big show of force they they they don't

00:35:14.880 get warrants for any uh busting into homes this is just over the top the fourth amendment is being

00:35:20.200 violated regularly all right um so it seems like your biggest grievance is the militarization of

00:35:28.840 law enforcement yes and they kind of you know they they've actually got you know they've gotten

00:35:36.380 equipment and uh arms from leftovers from uh from the military this is uh this is okay so the the

00:35:46.440 militarization right now that we're seeing in minneapolis is a direct response to the unruly

00:35:51.440 behavior of the civilians the the you know democrat uh you know liberal morons that are running around

00:35:58.100 stalking law enforcement stopping operations impeding operations so the reason why they're

00:36:03.280 militarized like this is because it's a direct response to keep law and order right typically

00:36:07.800 police have to go one step above the perpetrators to be able to subdue them okay so that is why

00:36:14.060 they're utilizing this more militarized approach and also the state and local police are not assisting

00:36:19.840 so since the state and local police are not assisting ice has to be far more aggressive

00:36:23.680 in their enforcement operations to ensure that they're able to do their jobs effectively so it's

00:36:28.640 not that they're militarizing just to militarize they're militarizing as a direct response to the

00:36:33.480 pushback and the issues that they're getting and lack of support from the state officials that is why

00:36:37.940 now as far as like the idf goes let's assume it's true that they've trained with the idf before i could

00:36:42.940 tell you guys right now i spent seven months i went to to the police academy with hsi as a special agent

00:36:46.840 we did not train with the idf not one time okay now are there maybe potential some ice officers that

00:36:52.900 may have trained with the idea before with a special training here or there at the academy

00:36:56.460 sure but it is not in standard routine police academy training to go and work with idf but

00:37:01.600 let's assume that was true that they did train with idf who cares what does that have to do with

00:37:05.180 the lawfulness of this shoot like that has nothing to do with anything and the reality is that i think

00:37:11.640 it does matter who whether they trained with the idf why does that matter what does that what does

00:37:16.360 that have to do what does that have to do with the legality of this shooting yeah trains trains police

00:37:21.700 uh under circumstances that they deemed similar to gaza they trained them to treat all opposition as

00:37:30.100 terrorism oh my god dude no that is no like you the military the military and law enforcement

00:37:40.560 have completely different ways of engaging with uh threats completely different

00:37:46.280 but i see what he i see what he's saying though he's saying jared can you guys put your hands up

00:37:53.360 before you go because i've got so much super chats where people want uh their statements read out so

00:37:57.720 the first one is uh by lebanese i appreciate you saying he says martin is right as a concealed carrier

00:38:03.880 you are held to a different standard uh and then i'll read the other one in a second but we also got

00:38:10.380 some what's this one legally ice can't enforce local law because they don't have jurisdiction they

00:38:15.980 can only carry out immigration law they are overstepping i do want to hear thoughts on that

00:38:20.060 myron also we've had just uh it's just been uh breaking news greg bovino has been relieved of his

00:38:26.780 duties overseeing border patrol operations with ice it says the following says greg bovino the

00:38:33.260 border patrols commander of at-large operations has been demoted from his post overseeing embeds with u.s

00:38:40.220 immigration and custom enforcement following an agent involved shooting in minneapolis over the

00:38:45.320 weekend according to six federal sources so it does seem to suggest the head of customs and border

00:38:52.680 patrol possibly either has been relieved completely of his duties or been removed away from the minnesota

00:38:57.860 operations myron what's your what's your thoughts on that um this is typical i mean people in high

00:39:02.800 positions almost always you know move from position to position whenever you become a high-ranking

00:39:08.160 official with any any government agency uh you know you're gonna you're not gonna be in that

00:39:13.560 position for very long like you're not gonna see special agents in charge commanders you know be in

00:39:18.080 positions for a long time because they move around the agency so uh i mean well myron i think you

00:39:23.120 misheard what i think you misheard what solomon was saying he was saying that it looks like he was

00:39:27.960 demoted um because i'm seeing a report here and i just tagged you solomon and myron

00:39:32.460 yes yes it seems like he's either it was some reports are saying demoted or some people are

00:39:37.920 saying that he's been relieved of his duties but it has got to do with this incident myron so it

00:39:41.860 isn't moving positions there it seems like either he's been put as the fall guy however you want to

00:39:46.660 look at it or whatever it is but he's been well also keep in mind that they they're bringing in tom

00:39:50.900 holman as well to oversee things so look people resign or get relieved of their position all the time

00:39:56.400 um but that does not have to do with the legality of the shooting and and here's the thing right like

00:40:01.640 everybody that keeps like trying to ask me about this like they bring up random stuff that has

00:40:05.120 nothing to do with it oh they feel with the idea of who it's a scientist back organization who like

00:40:09.420 that's not what has to do with the topic at hand the topic at hand is did this border patrol agent

00:40:14.860 act in a justified manner against alec pretty given the facts and circumstances and according to the law

00:40:21.040 it's yes but as usual a lot of these you know retarded progressives are getting mad that a shooting

00:40:26.260 happened and trying to blame everything on israel or blame on the idf like even if let's say

00:40:31.540 this fucking guy did train with the idf what does that have to do with the legality of the shooting

00:40:35.200 this has nothing to do with that absolutely nothing to do with that so so myron i think

00:40:39.440 this is like a larger view and let let me just put this to you and by the way i mentioned this on the

00:40:43.480 tim pool podcast i think they couldn't deal with this so they pulled the podcast afterwards uh because

00:40:49.100 obviously i'd like destroyed all these right wingers on this point but the point the kind of the larger

00:40:53.600 issue is this that when you look at what's happening in terms of ice and in terms of people on the

00:41:00.140 left who disagree i believe that there was definitely going to be and i mentioned this

00:41:03.620 culminate in a situation where either an ice agent was going to start killing people or kill people

00:41:08.680 or vice versa some people were going to end up killing ice agents and what happened after that

00:41:14.060 was really important and what i mean by that is if you look at the actions or interactions of the

00:41:18.540 president of the united states the vice president of the united states after the renee good shooting and

00:41:22.240 even now that's caused major escalation they could have easily said look we're gonna look

00:41:27.080 this report would minimize the issue anyway but the point being they could have quite easily said

00:41:32.640 look we're gonna have an independent inquiry we don't want anyone to be harming ice officers but

00:41:37.080 we will look into it and we'll have an independent inquiry i think that would have de-escalated but it

00:41:40.620 does look like these tensions are intentionally being escalated by by people in power intentionally

00:41:46.220 and so yeah of course you can basically create many situations where ice will shoot people

00:41:50.920 but what's going to happen is when it's something so on the edge in the sense of

00:41:55.420 something like this all it'll do is inflame tensions and what it'll do is give kind of ice

00:41:59.660 more of a um a thing a situation to shoot people and more people from the left or protest even more

00:42:05.640 and all have all that happens is escalation and i do think that's an agenda point that they're trying

00:42:10.060 to do so i guess i'm putting that to you what's your thoughts on kind of that perspective about i

00:42:15.160 mentioned this on tim pool and they pulled the episode afterwards so clearly they don't want to hear

00:42:19.140 like someone's opinion who is different to theirs but what's your thoughts on that um well i mean

00:42:23.300 look law enforcement is always going to escalate to a level above whatever the resistance is that's

00:42:30.880 just how it goes right if you try to fight a cop he's going to pull out a taser or a baton right

00:42:36.000 there's no such thing as fair fights when it comes to law enforcement they're always going to escalate

00:42:39.460 and people also need to understand that law enforcement has no duty to retreat either

00:42:43.340 so they're going to they're going to a lot of times they're going to stand their ground and just beat

00:42:46.740 you whether it's through numbers using a weapon using a tool etc so these protesters like stop need

00:42:54.480 to stop being idiots and understand that if you challenge a law enforcement official you are opening

00:42:59.500 yourself up to serious bodily harm and you need to stop being an idiot like it's not their job to

00:43:05.260 ensure that they don't uh that they don't like whoop your ass in the process of getting you detained if

00:43:11.180 you're going to actively resist them so i tell people look you want to protest you want to be out

00:43:14.840 they're recording totally fine but you also have to be uh cognizant of the fact that obviously

00:43:20.020 minneapolis is a very uh tense area law enforcement is on high alert uh they're going to be they're

00:43:25.280 going to accept they're going to tolerate way less bullshit from you and if they say put your hands

00:43:29.600 behind your back or they try to detain you the worst you could do is resist especially if you got a gun

00:43:33.380 on your person like this guy being concealed carry owner should have known better like that's absolutely

00:43:38.760 ridiculous that he thought it'd be appropriate to walk up to an agent and um get in between him and

00:43:43.520 another subject and uh think that everything is going to be okay he put it open himself up to this

00:43:48.760 problem and this would all be avoided if people simply just didn't resist law enforcement like

00:43:52.680 dude i always tell people don't fight law enforcement fight in the courtroom because if you try to fight

00:43:57.780 law enforcement you're going to lose you're always going to lose so just take the detainment take the

00:44:02.520 arrest whatever it is go to go to jail call your lawyer don't say a goddamn thing and fight it in court

00:44:07.900 don't fight it on the street okay we've got another question for you myron you'll know this

00:44:13.620 from your experience it says legally ice can't enforce local laws because they don't have the

00:44:18.780 jurisdiction they can only carry out immigration law they are overstepping what's your thoughts on that

00:44:23.880 okay what local laws are we talking about because there's federal statutes that that align too there's

00:44:28.420 a there's a federal statute um that makes it a crime to impede federal law enforcement so what what

00:44:33.420 what does he mean like he's talking about like state law yeah sure they don't but there are some

00:44:37.300 federal statutes that might match it that they can use okay jared do you have a question for myron

00:44:44.340 yeah myron i yeah i yeah solomon asked the second question and i think the question i don't know

00:44:51.560 all right so so um first of all yeah you're right some obviously it's very common practice for them to

00:44:59.100 reshuffle around you know people part of the administrative state of u.s customs and border and ice

00:45:04.680 so cnn has just reported in the last few minutes that uh gregory bonvino has been locked out of his

00:45:11.100 um social media accounts because over the last 24 hours he has been responding to people so he's been

00:45:17.980 locked out of his account at this hour because he's been responding to people um that's cnn and fox news

00:45:24.340 reporting that in the last few minutes um so i mean my question would be to you is what what do you think of

00:45:31.520 are you think they're they're giving um gregory bonvino a punishment or because i'm seeing a lot

00:45:39.020 of people are saying that the administration should be even going deeper but it seems like

00:45:44.900 that they are trying to uh play the calm mode for a little bit what do you think uh i don't know i mean

00:45:51.740 people will resign um or get removed from positions all the time uh it might not necessarily mean that

00:45:57.140 they're doing a horrible job it might mean that hey we just know that someone better that we could put

00:46:00.860 in that position we're going to move you over here so um you know there's personnel changes in the

00:46:05.520 government all the time very common especially when you're a higher uh tier government official

00:46:09.340 uh they move you around like chess pieces so i don't know what it is uh it could be for any reason

00:46:14.120 um but yeah or it could have been him even resigning saying i'm tired of this shit right he's he's been

00:46:19.240 getting harassed death threats you know he's got to walk around with a full-on security detail

00:46:22.680 everywhere he goes it could be him wanting to resign so it could be for anything yeah that's a fair

00:46:28.160 point and my last question would just be um so you you said a few moments ago and you said that

00:46:34.120 you know you waited and i just looked at your uh page and you were right you waited to obviously put

00:46:39.400 your opinion on the second controversial shooting in minnesota but i think what solomon was trying to

00:46:45.500 say is why the rush judgment of christy noem and for example christy noem came out i think she was at

00:46:52.880 the airport or something um flying back home or something she came out a few hours later and said

00:46:58.480 that uh alex was a domestic terrorist now myron i know you know it's very common for you know these

00:47:06.160 officials whether they're in state local or federal to obviously wait before saying someone is a domestic

00:47:12.280 terrorist what do you why did she say that i think that's why people are protesting right people are

00:47:19.660 still upset but for christy noem to come out a few hours later and say that he was a domestic

00:47:25.800 terrorist and he tried to massacre law enforcement that's the word she used you you you in her like

00:47:33.860 what do you make of that i mean christy noem's a retard i've been vocal about this for a while

00:47:38.000 yeah and she's uh loves to kill pets as well uh another um super chat myron and i want to read this

00:47:47.140 because although i text you i want to respond with myself it says uh

00:47:51.540 it says um what to call again myron's credibility isn't the good he sounds as unlettered as officer

00:48:00.220 tatum now who agrees now look i find these things ridiculous because you know what annoys me more

00:48:05.480 than anything else that we know over the last three years you've given up millions of dollars i've given

00:48:12.000 millions of dollars and what people want is despite that they would never do it most of these people

00:48:17.140 are on anonymous accounts most of these people are not willing to risk anything most people are not

00:48:21.100 willing to risk the financial uh situation and definitely not their own jobs or careers

00:48:27.700 or their own households and yet we do that and yet they want blind conformity on every issue

00:48:34.040 and so like obviously on this issue they're not i'm able to my position but they've been

00:48:38.520 with the issues in the past where they've basically just because i've disagreed slightly

00:48:42.280 with their opinion they basically believe that you've basically got the call even though they

00:48:46.080 would not dare to have and do even a man my new scout of what we've done financially or in any other

00:48:52.800 way but give us give it yeah i mean you know this is this is what they say when they don't have

00:48:57.220 anything to challenge my argument notice how everyone that's come up has said some stupid shit about

00:49:00.740 the idf or you know you know you got to call some other it's like bro you can't challenge what i'm

00:49:06.260 saying because i what i'm saying is correct this was a lawful shooting now if you want to have a

00:49:10.140 discussion on the you know ethics of it or the morality that's another conversation but my point

00:49:14.460 here is to say that this is going to end up becoming a justified shooting based on the facts

00:49:18.240 and circumstances known to the border patrol agent before also another thing that i find extremely

00:49:22.080 interesting is that a lot of these people that monday morning quarterback and criticize my analysis

00:49:26.420 of this stuff don't understand use of force have never been in law enforcement have been in the

00:49:30.260 military don't understand how um weapons work or guns work never shot a gun and they're trying to

00:49:35.500 give their stupid ass fucking take on this so quite frankly i don't want to make the appeal to

00:49:39.240 authority argument but it does have a lot of credence when it comes to situations like this

00:49:43.020 because these people simply don't understand the second amendment and use of force protocol in the

00:49:46.380 united states so they don't know what the fuck they're talking about these are people that if

00:49:50.260 they're when they're at starbucks getting their fucking you know faggachino uh if someone calls their

00:49:55.060 name hey tom they fucking jump up like oh god oh somebody called my name okay i'll get my latte

00:49:59.040 it's like these dudes have never had confrontation nine out of ten times that are arguing about this so it's

00:50:03.340 just ridiculous to me that they feel as though their opinion or their take matters when they're

00:50:08.540 not analyzing the situation properly the way it's going to be analyzed legally they can never attack

00:50:13.520 my arguments they just got to go ahead and say some other bullshit and as far as like the other stuff

00:50:16.960 yeah i mean a lot of people must be new here like i literally just got banned from every club in miami

00:50:21.540 for being critical of israel like i literally just got banned from every fucking uh hospitality location

00:50:26.800 etc um in this city for that purpose like so for the people that are sitting there trying to

00:50:31.680 question where i stand like shut the fuck up i've lost more money than you've made

00:50:35.180 yeah and look um and that by the way you've seen it i've asked you questions i've literally

00:50:42.280 allowed people to ask you questions i want people to push back on you about the lawful use of the gun

00:50:48.220 because if there's a stronger position i want you to be debunked right because i have a different

00:50:51.800 opinion to you but up to now now everyone after having two days of space there's nobody's pushing

00:50:56.360 back on you on that issue and it's kind of annoying me so i'm on because because look i wanted you

00:51:02.800 to push back on maren yeah but you can't look on the legality you can't push back there's officers

00:51:08.680 and that's what that's what that's the point they scream gun that officer here's a gun he has

00:51:14.880 like the law protects the officer here so he's right on the legality what's what i'm questioning

00:51:21.480 is not the legality it's the why are there so many people on one person why does this not look

00:51:28.000 trained why are there multiple agency people on him this is going to create confusion this just showed

00:51:34.660 to me it just shows how messed up ice is at the moment that they're bringing in america's citizens

00:51:40.840 that the highest number of detainees have been killed have died during detention for higher than the past 40

00:51:47.960 years um i just see a and then you see throttling of certain videos and other videos don't which

00:51:55.560 aren't arguable of what they did like i guarantee you this woman that just got hit by by ice when

00:52:01.720 they made a u-turn and then she got arrested i guarantee you no one's going to see that video

00:52:04.920 it's not going to throttle why because it's obviously ice's fault and that's not going to

00:52:09.480 get throttled because that's not going to create division and i feel like i honestly like all my

00:52:15.020 instincts are telling me everything that we're seeing is being throttled so that we fucking argue

00:52:20.580 with each other and don't point the finger stop asking about epstein stop asking about israel go

00:52:26.700 focus on this and go fight amongst yourself before you point the finger at me that's what it feels like

00:52:31.680 to me right so i can't argue the legality because he's right but that's the point so like my point is

00:52:37.740 this that now every you're saying yeah and i think you were one of the chief proponents against the

00:52:43.320 actions of the ice guy you're saying oh guess what i agree with myron uh it was legal and so

00:52:48.820 if there are if there is anybody on the super chat ask give us the reason why you think that

00:52:53.520 myron's wrong on the legality i will ask him the question someone just posted and said it's

00:52:57.980 definitely manslaughter but then i've asked him i said why explain why you think it's manslaughter and

00:53:01.680 i can ask the question but again people are just being very vague and i don't like vagueness i want i

00:53:06.320 want people to disagree with you myron why don't they just come up and speak then instead of sending you

00:53:10.560 messages like why don't they just come up and speak and defend their retarded point

00:53:14.060 yeah if you want to come up as well uh guys do a request uh and you've got a question marion i'll

00:53:20.240 bring you up uh but if it's yeah so if you've got a question put it in the comments in either the x or

00:53:26.120 the youtube and i'll bring you up uh someone said uh that this is a palestinian he said i appreciate

00:53:32.900 marion speaking on behalf of palestine but you okay but you got kicked out of the clubs for glorifying

00:53:39.180 nazis not for being pro-palestine is uh what this guy said um but he's a retard okay let me um

00:53:47.260 is this is why a lot of these pro-palestine people are just fucking 50 iq idiots dude beatrix you got

00:53:54.200 a question i do yeah um hi myron look i obviously on the legality aside from all the angles i've seen

00:54:03.240 on the video um i think even leading up to his shooting everything was questionable pushing those

00:54:09.320 women behaving like thugs but i know that you come at it from a more objective standard so that aside

00:54:16.180 when these events happen when these shootings occur leaving aside like the ice agents the

00:54:22.820 responsibility they had and what they undertook do you find that the way that it's handled in the

00:54:28.340 aftermath is really inflammatory in terms of from leading figures the government these ladies that

00:54:34.300 come on the podium the pan bondies and stuff where initially the very first thing i just feel this

00:54:40.200 they should be saying look you know somebody was killed today and our condolences to the families

00:54:44.880 and their loved ones and we are going to have an inquiry and we'd like to ask for restraint and calm

00:54:48.860 while we investigate this but what they do is within the minute that it happens they go up put a full

00:54:54.700 defense out say he was a domestic terrorist inflammatory language and i feel that's really

00:54:59.720 deliberate and i just think that and they didn't even take the ice officer off duty this is what i

00:55:04.280 heard and maybe you can clarify if this is true or not but from across sources i was hearing that

00:55:09.320 he remained on duty until the next day and surely that's not good for his own mental well-being as

00:55:14.860 well as for the reassurance of the public so what's your thoughts on in terms of process and procedure

00:55:19.380 that governments kind of deal with the fallout of this um well you know there's there uh anytime

00:55:26.520 that you get involved in a shooting there's going to be an investigation open and they're going to

00:55:29.720 take the gun and they're going to you know probably put you on light duty or you know quickly take you

00:55:34.060 off of um you know duty after the fact we don't know what the manpower requirements are they probably

00:55:39.420 need every single person they can get uh so they're going to probably you know try to get this

00:55:43.920 resolved as quickly as possible but yeah i mean that's just standard procedure as far as like you get

00:55:49.100 involved in a shooting there's going to be 100 at least an internal investigation and then more

00:55:53.600 than likely probably an external investigation by the state and locals as well but in this case i

00:55:57.860 don't know if they'll be able to do anything because the supremacy clause because he was acting

00:56:01.040 within the um scope of his uh duties uh doing an enforcement operation uh let's go to okal okal have you

00:56:09.280 got a question

00:56:11.280 got a question

00:56:13.280 okay let's go to commie commie you've got a question

00:56:15.280 i can't hear him uh i just want to point out that the i the agents who fired the shot at petty uh freddy

00:56:31.280 who fired the shot at petty uh freddy whatever his name is pretty boy whatever he was um he has not

00:56:39.380 been taken off of duty he is operating without there has been no uh nothing nothing done to him at all

00:56:45.780 he's still operating as an agent without any uh consequence so far

00:56:50.120 um let me go to jared jared you said you got a legal question

00:56:55.580 yeah but they're still not they're 100 yeah hold on what do you think about

00:57:00.340 yeah what did you think about that question first from him uh you didn't answer that would he because

00:57:05.240 i mean it happens i thought you were on yeah like it that's a hundred percent um that's based on his

00:57:11.580 chain of command they can choose to take him off of duty or hey we'll keep you on duty but we're

00:57:16.140 you know do an investigation on the side that's really but myron come on okay i was following you

00:57:21.500 okay i was following you the last 15 minutes but like it's whether it's state local it's it's very

00:57:28.560 nine times out of ten when a officer shoots his gun right just shoots his gun let alone the other

00:57:36.520 person on the end of the bullet dies they're usually taken off their uh they're usually taken

00:57:42.340 off their duty so i mean i think that's also again like the protesters are not there just because

00:57:48.260 someone died right they're there because they say procedures are not being followed another question

00:57:53.960 i have for you every agency is someone someone just sent me a message hold on jared hold on

00:57:59.380 every agency is different every agency is gonna um you know investigate shootings differently it's

00:58:04.760 always a case-by-case situation now if this was a very blatantly bad shoot more and it was like

00:58:10.500 really bad more than likely they probably would have taken them off and put them on desk duty or

00:58:13.940 you know tell them hey you're on administrative leave but since this shoot is more than likely

00:58:17.960 going to be justified they're like you know what we're going to take your gun we're going to

00:58:20.380 investigate uh you're still working though so it's a case-by-case agency by agency basis

00:58:25.660 absolutely not no uh how the fuck are you going to tell me i i i just i just i just respectfully

00:58:33.540 disagree i think you're right you agree or not because you've never been a law enforcement i'm

00:58:37.500 telling you every single law enforcement agency has a different protocol and a different standard

00:58:40.720 i think you're right to say legally legally to say that you could make this argument just right um

00:58:48.560 whether or not he thought that hold on let me be explicitly clear about this quite frankly i don't

00:58:54.540 care if you agree or not i'm telling you how different law enforcement agencies work policy versus

00:58:58.640 the law and use of force situations change based on agency chain of command uh requirements of the

00:59:05.280 agency at the time manpower etc all of these different factors account for how they're going

00:59:09.980 to deal with staff during the course of a shooting investigation so we don't know because every

00:59:16.100 agency is different it's case by case so it's not every single time someone gets in a shooting

00:59:20.240 they're going to be taken off of duty dude i'm telling you that it varies all right so another

00:59:23.500 question someone just sent me this uh so you have minnesota state officials suing ice right now

00:59:30.060 there's a lawsuit pending um i think there's gonna be hearing um tomorrow morning there it's it's a

00:59:35.480 hearing on whether or not um this was being banned after this shooting shortly after the shooting

00:59:43.440 happened um minnesota uh minneapolis police department officers could not get close to the scene of the

00:59:50.420 shooting they were keeping them far away so what do you make of that a lot of people are making the case

00:59:55.260 they're trying to hide um the evidence from the state and local long um you're cutting off on my

01:00:03.760 end i don't know is it just me or you guys hearing him cut yeah he's echoing quite bad yeah i didn't

01:00:09.060 really get the i'm sorry he said something about hiding can you guys hear me now i think yeah go

01:00:14.500 yeah so my question was so there's a so there's a lawsuit um active pending right now um shortly after

01:00:21.880 the shooting it was reported that many department officers could not get close to the scene of the

01:00:27.700 shooting they were you know they they were not kept up to date on what was happening um evidence um

01:00:34.620 is is that are you going to say that's common as well and why does a state have to sue the feds

01:00:40.780 just so that they can get evidence of the shooting uh well the protesters um the protesters have been

01:00:47.460 blocking off a bunch of places in the city so that's another reason too why like for example

01:00:53.300 there was a hotel yesterday last night that they were rioting at and like making a bunch of noise

01:00:57.620 and before they went over there to riot at this hotel that they think ice agents were at um they

01:01:02.580 ended up like blocking off the street so that police can't come in and respond so the protesters we're

01:01:07.600 not talking about protesters we're talking about police officers you told me about why is the street

01:01:11.720 blocked off and i told you well we don't know no that's not what i said no that's not what i said

01:01:15.300 i said the feds such as ice is not letting the state of minnesota had to sue yesterday in order

01:01:22.540 to get evidence from the scene of the shooting why is for renee good or for this case for this case

01:01:30.100 why aren't they not letting minneapolis police department are they not even keeping them in the

01:01:36.180 loop of what has happened uh more than likely probably because of supremacy clause because they're

01:01:41.060 going to look at it like well he was acting within the confinements of his duty um and there was a

01:01:45.260 use of force incident so we're not they don't have they don't have to feel the obligation to turn

01:01:48.780 anything over for them for state prosecution that's more than likely why i'm just estimating though i'm

01:01:53.380 not sure exactly what their reasoning is but i'm sure it probably has to do something with that

01:01:57.000 so when you were one second okay uh we got a another super chat says no one is mentioning this

01:02:04.300 point brackets i agree with marin the guy who got shot should have declared he had a weapon on him

01:02:10.000 and he had and that he had a permit before engaging and interfering with the officers i mean we had

01:02:16.100 this discussion yesterday though i said that if he was to say i've got a weapon do you not think that

01:02:19.480 he'd get shot as well because they'd be like threatening with the weapon what's your thoughts

01:02:22.080 about marin uh he should have just never touched the ice agent as the uh board of choice and that was

01:02:26.020 his biggest fuck up you know but marin just on that like um i i get what you're saying but in that

01:02:32.820 scenario isn't your natural instinct to like move your hand out just to help someone like if someone

01:02:36.840 throwing a kid my natural reaction would be to put my hand out to save that kid to stop him from

01:02:41.200 falling so you would put your hand out to try and say would is that not what what's your thoughts on

01:02:47.980 that i mean he walked up to the guy and tried to interfere as he was dealing with a woman and that

01:02:51.880 was a big mistake cool yeah makes sense let's go to uh um white monster go ahead you got a question

01:03:00.080 yeah hey can you guys hear me all right yeah loud and clear thanks solomon uh yeah question from myron

01:03:08.000 uh regarding uh pam bonnie strongly reported letter to tim walls uh that she announced on fox the other

01:03:17.360 day or something like that uh do you think that the administration uh in negotiations with

01:03:24.220 the minnesota uh government uh do you think was part of that uh those negotiations or that compromise

01:03:33.780 and follow-up question uh why is nick fuentes the realest nigger alive thank you i missed the part

01:03:43.140 of your question there bro you're cutting off when you asked me about pam bondy you said pam bondy what

01:03:46.940 yeah pam bondy i think his second his second question that he's um do you think that um uh

01:03:56.640 i think your buddy uh nick fuentes is the real quote-unquote nigger alive that was his second

01:04:01.220 question i forgot his first question yeah i couldn't hear the first one oh i'm sorry i'm sorry i didn't

01:04:06.200 hear his first question either so go ahead so uh do you think that uh the trump administration in

01:04:13.840 compromising with the minister

01:04:16.940 he's cutting off again oh sorry i'll uh i'll put i'll i'll send it to suleman yeah send it to me

01:04:24.520 i'll ask the question um let's go to tyler tyler jump in what's your question

01:04:28.480 hey can you hear me yeah loud and clear hey guys perfect name is tyler dykes i'm a

01:04:36.680 patriot i'm running for congress in cd1 in the low country area of south carolina and i for one

01:04:44.640 am incredibly frustrated by the lack of actual actionable action on this by the trump administration

01:04:51.900 when i was arrested for january 6 they hunted me down they hunted down my friends and family

01:04:58.660 they immediately they went after everybody i knew and then the people who knew the people that i knew

01:05:06.560 and so throughout all of this they also identified me based on the corner of my eye using facial

01:05:13.520 recognition software and so the real question is why aren't they going out and arresting these people

01:05:19.840 that are actually attacking these agents that are out there in the field the ai technology four years ago

01:05:27.080 is absolutely better now so they could easily be sending the feds by clearing out these people

01:05:33.100 and actually helping ice to do their job and so quite unfortunately i have to agree with nick frantes

01:05:38.660 here it's like there's just a lot of performative action going on right now to try to get the base

01:05:44.700 not actually a lot of would you agree

01:05:48.940 well if people weren't uh you know protesting and being idiots a lot of this stuff wouldn't be

01:05:57.100 happening i mean it's interesting how immigration enforcement is happening fine in other places but

01:06:01.440 you know here in uh you know minneapolis has been such an issue so myron the griper he said that

01:06:09.700 do do you think that the trump administration compromised that with tim waltz admin and part of the

01:06:16.740 compromise was that bovino was let go and so they had some kind of deal and he did say he did put a

01:06:22.280 tweet out today trump saying that the conversation with tim waltz well uh what's your thoughts on that

01:06:26.300 do you think that that was part of some kind of agreement that they had i think it's just politicians

01:06:31.300 being politicians man like behind the scenes all these guys get along with each other but they kind

01:06:35.220 of put a front that they hate each other publicly but you know i i think absolutely tim waltz and uh

01:06:40.860 jacob fray aren't really doing enough to uh to help out in this situation they're not mobilizing the

01:06:45.480 state and local uh law enforcement enough to um actually assist with crowd control here which is

01:06:51.280 why we have so many of the problems that we have okay and i'm sorry i don't have that's part i don't

01:06:58.420 have hosts yeah let's monoscopy i think that i know joe but what i was gonna say is i don't

01:07:05.400 i think it's part of the problem are bovino there's a there's there was a case where bovino

01:07:12.200 over a barrier barrier then tackled a protester he wasn't doing anything um tackled him and then

01:07:20.580 arrested him and that was done in front of the judge the in front of the judge he's like did you

01:07:25.480 hop the barrier he's like no did you tackle him no and you can see it on the video that he did it

01:07:30.740 right so the judge has come out and be like he's actually just straight up lying about his aggression

01:07:36.080 people under him are repeating these actions like why was that woman pushed to begin with

01:07:42.260 right uh we don't know but more than likely it's just more more than likely they were probably

01:07:46.660 interfering that's probably why we have video of them before they weren't interfering though

01:07:51.900 well do we know here's the thing we don't know exactly what was going on at the time right but

01:07:57.280 pan and ice or border patrol go up the press press the protesters and start pushing them around

01:08:03.580 if they're not interfering if they're interfering yeah they're gonna do that yeah they're gonna push

01:08:07.820 they're not because we have video we have bovino on video of no one interfering in him tackling the

01:08:14.940 guy to the ground and going over and the guy was behind a barrier well went over the barrier to go tackle

01:08:20.240 the guy again we don't know what's going on what they're trying to do at the time that they push them

01:08:26.100 or tackle them so you know that's that's the thing is that we're not operating here with uh all the

01:08:31.500 facts in mind and we don't know why they were involved in that altercation but what we do know

01:08:34.860 is he was engaging with two people and this guy pretty walked up put his hand on him and that's

01:08:40.500 where things obviously uh took a turn for the worse i mean i don't see him putting the hand on

01:08:45.880 you're an apologist for the police state no matter what i think he actually jumped back and straight

01:08:52.500 and streamed a command at him i think he actually stepped back and streamed a command at him i can't

01:08:58.660 get conclusive that he actually put his hands on but still my question simply is just to stick to

01:09:04.880 the question can ice run up to protesters if they're not impeding is that legal and if that

01:09:14.560 leads to a death who's responsible well i think if they're uh i just want to know let's not even take

01:09:21.600 this case myron like don't even think about what just happened just this particular scenario

01:09:26.620 protesters aren't doing anything they're just filming ice yeah they're just filming and they're

01:09:31.480 not getting in the way then it doesn't matter yeah i mean the right to be right to see right if

01:09:34.840 they're just there filming and they're not you know uh interfering with the operation no they're

01:09:38.340 not going to do anything right so if that guy winds up dead because they do push him then the ice

01:09:44.860 officer is the one responsible or no because he had a gun and then yeah he he lost he lost all

01:09:50.960 leverage uh and forfeited all of uh his i guess power as soon as he touched the agent while he was

01:09:56.720 engaged with someone else um the uh just got a nine uh oh god a few super chats one against me and one

01:10:07.300 against you myron so one says suleman very bad take that you assume the officer would not act

01:10:11.400 professionally if the guy declared he had a gun and had a permit most officers are with people

01:10:17.200 with permits yeah i disagree if you look at very minor things that were like he touched and he

01:10:22.800 touched the officer he did this and that was enough to get assassinated if a guy says six ice officers

01:10:28.140 coming towards him and he says i've got a gun they're gonna blow his brains out like i'm we don't

01:10:32.940 know as a matter of fact but just based on the way things are yes it was if i would have like i've got

01:10:38.060 a gun i've got a gun because i'm i think there's a high likelihood they'd probably blow my brains out

01:10:41.440 uh so yeah i do think that i'm right on that issue myron question someone this one about you myron

01:10:47.400 makes the pro-palestinian community look bad i won't claim this guy obviously they're upset with you as

01:10:51.320 well uh don't care from a different perspective uh let's go to uh beatrix beatrix you got a question

01:10:57.080 i think what i asked you earlier myron i think it was a two question you answered one part of it the

01:11:04.240 second part of it was um do you think that they could handle it a bit more sensitive sensitively

01:11:09.100 in the aftermath because that's what's really got everybody up in arms my whole timeline is versus

01:11:14.640 you know left versus right um dems versus really angry about this from every side and i think that

01:11:23.080 the people that are elected to be in power and leadership have an obligation and a duty to calm it

01:11:28.300 down to take care of it to reassure people because whether people are left or right they're still

01:11:33.380 their electorate you know um and i just see that failing and i've seen it in our government here

01:11:38.360 as well before what are your thoughts uh you cut off there

01:11:43.840 she's not cutting off for me so uh she might have to go re-ask her question because i heard her fine

01:11:52.280 all right let me let me refresh my page and leave and come back i'll be back all right hold on chat

01:11:57.580 all right give me one sec chat i'm uh

01:12:03.380 all right guys we got a money monday coming up let me try joining back in here

01:12:19.360 boys um that let me just delete one guy's crying about me uh hosting a space about this so while

01:12:28.120 you're on my chat i'm literally gonna block you so you're not on the youtube chat anymore

01:12:32.200 they're just haters solomon one guy no one guy is saying that why aren't you pushing back on myron

01:12:38.200 uh the thing is like listen one of my rules is i have certain rules i don't debate my friends

01:12:43.380 i don't debate christians in like a christian muslim debate and i don't debate sectarian issues

01:12:49.180 within islam like those are the things that i tried to stay away from debating sometimes i may fall in

01:12:53.020 the trap but generally i don't do those debates but what i do do what i have done is i have brought

01:12:58.420 people up who disagree with myron to ask questions and to push back if it if it was that you've seen it

01:13:04.020 you've had so many people ask him questions most people just end up agreeing with him so what can i do

01:13:08.500 if there's not enough good enough person who can push back on him that's not my problem like you

01:13:12.120 guys need to have stronger arguments so you can push back on him but in reality like i don't debate

01:13:17.580 i don't debate my friends like i would this is why i wouldn't push back on myron this is not what i do

01:13:22.520 i think it's low class behavior and it lacks integrity if you don't like it you don't like it but

01:13:25.540 what i have done is joe has been brought up to disagree jared has uh many people on this space

01:13:31.060 have been brought up to disagree and they can disagree and they have disagreed and mine's kind of

01:13:35.160 portrayed a strong argument i don't agree with myron's position but to be honest like no one's

01:13:41.120 pushing back well enough it's not my fault y'all want to you being so excited about echo chambers

01:13:45.140 that you're not being able to formulate a strong enough argument like oh you know you you've got

01:13:49.060 the ability to push back anyone who's requesting i'm literally bringing them up anyone who puts a

01:13:52.780 super chat in the youtube i'm literally reading the super chat obviously if someone's swearing in

01:13:56.220 the youtube chat i'll rephrase it but i'm literally asking the same question in the super chat

01:13:59.600 so all i gotta say is don't cry make stronger arguments maybe this is linked to the point i said

01:14:04.460 earlier in the space that y'all cry for your echo chambers maybe if you didn't cry for them you

01:14:09.200 would have stronger arguments uh another four dollars 99 super chat from uh frank jabber says

01:14:14.820 if suleman was throwing the nazi suits i would distance myself from him don't lie public you wouldn't

01:14:19.980 let's not try that bro um anyway um that's that okay let me bring some more people up

01:14:26.900 uh bro people just sorry man and look look here's bro you you failed bro i don't see it the same way

01:14:32.640 listen i literally thought no i don't who should i bring up against myron i thought joe

01:14:37.260 bring him up he's gonna finish him and he didn't have anything two-sided

01:14:42.000 there's a reason why we call him two-sided jonah

01:14:46.960 joe already said joe already said that he thought it was illegal he's just

01:14:51.120 jared one second i want the audience to hear

01:14:54.500 yeah look from mine's perspective what he's saying is this guy touched the officer i still

01:15:04.220 can't and manco keeps sending me clips and i keep looking it looks like the officer actually

01:15:08.380 pushed himself off of the guy not the other way around that's why i keep trying to get to the point

01:15:13.720 whereas if an ice officer goes and approaches someone who's just filming and he did not touch

01:15:19.420 the officer who's responsible for that death that's what i'm trying to get to because if what

01:15:25.540 myron saw which is the guy touched the ice officer and then he tackled him then he had a gun and the

01:15:31.180 gun went off then yes legal if the guy never touched them and the ice officers are pro or are going after

01:15:37.320 and being aggressive towards people simply filming which is the way i see it and i keep replaying the

01:15:42.800 clip over and over and over and now i can see that the ice officer puts his hand up on the guy's

01:15:48.160 chest pushes off of him and then starts pepper spraying him when the guy pushes back he's not

01:15:53.480 being pushed he's not being pushed back he's actually pushing himself back off the guy's chest

01:15:58.180 right so i'm just seeing it a completely different way and if that's the case i think myron would agree

01:16:03.640 that then that's an illegal shoot so but we're seeing two different things uh myron's position that

01:16:11.820 he moved towards the ice agent and then pushed his arm out that bit you agree with right

01:16:16.640 no i don't look i i played it over and over i don't see him moving his arm i see him turning

01:16:23.640 around after the girl gets the girl gets pushed the ice officer puts his arm on the guy's chest

01:16:29.580 pushes like i think he pushed an immovable wall because the guy doesn't even move back but he's

01:16:34.960 like twice the size he pushes back off him steps back and grabs the bear spray that's what i see i don't

01:16:41.800 see any conclusive evidence that the guy put his hand on it but there is one clip where he has his

01:16:48.080 hand which looks like it could be on him but it also could be beside him because you can't tell

01:16:53.600 but what looks from one video to be a push on the officer you can see from the other video that's not

01:17:00.240 the case it's actually the officer pushing himself away from the guy by pushing on the guy's chest that

01:17:06.400 i'm looking at what you posted joe that's at 13 seconds myron if i remember right said at 12

01:17:12.380 seconds or have we got an image from 12 seconds let me look at his page at 12 seconds

01:17:15.980 yeah you can see it and you cannot tell if that are if that guy's arm is on the officer or to the

01:17:25.280 left of the officer okay i'm just looking at the video that myron posted and and look at and

01:17:30.660 look at the office look at the ice officer's hand hand going on the protesters chest and him

01:17:38.700 pushing himself off of him and this is where this argument comes whether who's responsible is it all

01:17:44.300 hinges on this i think and that's what i'm trying to get to does it actually hinge on this or not no

01:17:49.340 but look i'm looking at this video um and by the way i don't have the same opinion as myron but just i'm

01:17:54.420 looking at this video because i think that that's like crazy that he got shot for that as well but

01:17:58.040 um at 10 seconds you know if you look at the video 10 seconds um joe so 10 seconds he's holding

01:18:05.700 the other woman and then 10 point almost 10 seconds in 11 let me go let me go back

01:18:13.420 i'm looking at myron's video right the one he posted oh okay then let me go look at myron's

01:18:18.400 because there's one that's i think better hold on i'll go look at myron's one second

01:18:23.360 yeah i mean in myron's video it does look like he's moving towards the officer

01:18:29.020 yeah but look at him he keeps he does like a 360 though if you look at myron's video and keep

01:18:36.020 watching yeah the guy doesn't stop in front of the officer he does like a 360 what do you mean by 360

01:18:41.720 he like spins around so he's in the one i'm looking at in myron's video at 10 seconds he's holding the

01:18:48.960 other woman and then at 11 seconds he moves from the first woman and go to goes towards the

01:18:56.220 altercation between the ice officer and the other woman so he moves towards him with his hand out

01:19:00.700 right you agree with that yes that i agree he moves towards him with his hand out because

01:19:05.580 the woman just got was about to get pushed and then at 14 seconds actually that's after your one

01:19:11.200 it looks like he's got his hand on the officer but then you're but yours is a different video isn't

01:19:15.040 that uh yeah it's a different angle yeah where's your video the original here i can i can give you

01:19:21.040 the link hold on it's the one manco shared um hold on by the way who's ever saying that i i shared an

01:19:38.020 image that's not ai i never did that this image of him getting someone else just posted a video in the

01:19:43.680 comments by the way all right guys i'm i'm refreshing my page we're we got the money monday

01:19:48.980 coming up guys roger just got here so uh so we are going to do that soon i'm just waiting for fresh

01:19:54.640 let me read some chats while we're here fuck okay okay we got here um

01:19:59.460 we got sam porter says hey mine i understand the motivation to rejoin noise is it worth it do you

01:20:05.180 believe our leaders are doing their best uh for that risk well look man we we got a whole we got a

01:20:10.340 national problem at this point uh sorry for the bible i type thanks again yeah nigga did that type

01:20:15.160 of bible upon reviewing my driver's license today i was asked status in the country i've been a citizen

01:20:18.920 for about six years now as a reflex that wasn't reflected on the license even though i got the

01:20:22.420 one after being a citizen the reason why is because driver's licenses don't confirm your your actual

01:20:25.920 immigration status okay um they can't debunk you shouldn't minneapolis be held with some

01:20:32.740 responsibility for that not just handling over the uh uh criminals and encouraging civil arrest yep

01:20:36.820 absolutely uh ht is funny uh that jared dude is scared of my caught him yeah uh as the grind

01:20:44.000 continues and the influence increases and the power rises so does the enemy's uh vehement tirade

01:20:48.880 against the true wmr and l wimps uh boots on x2026 appreciate you bro fortrain uh says we can't

01:20:54.220 blame jays for the open borders then go and blame them for deportations uh that guy is lying the video

01:20:59.960 with the lady crashing she sped up and then she crashed into them these leftists are said so disingenuous

01:21:06.040 yeah the issue was impeding uh first i thought the shoe was unlawful until i saw your stream

01:21:09.900 explaining it my question is uh can they make an argument that it is unlawful due to a person

01:21:14.800 having his back there were multiple shots and an ice agent said uh boohoo after the shot i don't

01:21:20.380 know if they said boohoo but um yeah but the point is is that he was armed bro the pride you've taken

01:21:25.580 your previous work in law enforcement is inspiring appreciate you uh did you see asian dolls doing taxes

01:21:29.280 now no way give me a link how the mighty have fallen bro i'm telling you man all my alps are cooked

01:21:34.780 all my alps are fucking cooked bro they've just been talking shit about me and they're fucking

01:21:39.820 losers all right let's jump back in here um and then we are going to start uh pressure fit money

01:21:47.900 mondays here very soon that it's okay i'm looking at this is nick's uh video right

01:21:54.960 uh it's on manco posted it but it's someone else yeah nick it's on nick's video

01:22:01.600 where he says nick is trying to point as he's resisting arrest but

01:22:09.780 nah if you actually look at 13 seconds even in this video he twitches the officer first bro

01:22:14.560 how do you see that look at his hand look he reaches out for the woman so look look i'll tell

01:22:21.440 you i'll tell you what i'm at 12 seconds i'll tell you what i'm seeing so he gets he's got his

01:22:26.960 right hand out the officer pushes the woman really hard he right before he pushes her no no but when

01:22:33.420 he after he pushes his left hand is uh basically in front of the officer so i don't know if he pushes

01:22:40.000 the officer behind them behind them no no no the um so so i'm looking at it but basically his left

01:22:47.480 hand literally gets in between him and the woman i get what you're saying you're trying to say that

01:22:53.720 he uses his left hand to get between the officer and the woman but he doesn't actually push the

01:22:58.460 officer is your argument right right but if you continue the clip you see that the officer actually

01:23:03.140 pushes himself off of him not the other way around right which is what people are saying well

01:23:09.840 look you can see that he pushed them not from this angle you can see that the officer actually

01:23:14.320 pushed himself off of him i get your argument i get your argument so marion what's what's your

01:23:20.260 thoughts on what joe is saying joe is saying that let's go with that hypothetical because it's kind of

01:23:24.280 either way if he didn't push the ice officer but he put his hands in between the ice officer and the

01:23:29.700 woman but doesn't actually push him does that still count as violence and enough reason to do what

01:23:36.160 happened martin yeah i mean he's impeding him as he's dealing with the woman so and remember he

01:23:40.840 doesn't know this guy alex pretty he doesn't know if he's a danger to him anybody else like when you're

01:23:46.140 law enforcement some random person coming up to you and just trying to get in between and a man by the

01:23:50.200 way uh trying to get in between you and another person you're going to take that as a threat right

01:23:54.760 so um so that's that's kind of that's what happened this is why it's so important guys like mind

01:24:00.800 your business don't get involved in stuff uh because next thing you know you could be getting pepper

01:24:04.680 spread and then something is escalating and then it comes out of your control

01:24:07.220 so you just basically told people aka don't protest i mean i think that's pretty willful

01:24:14.600 ignorance on your part did you how did you come to the conclusion don't get involved absolutely get

01:24:19.560 involved if you disagree with something i think it's incumbent upon you protesting protesting see

01:24:25.340 this is what i bro what are you 50 iq protesting so so protesting doesn't while

01:24:30.480 like peacefully protesting something politically is not the same as getting in between a law

01:24:36.460 enforcement official and a subject that they're dealing with those are not the same whatsoever

01:24:40.500 and the fact that you're trying to come to that conclusion absolutely nuts

01:24:43.680 completely different let's go to adam

01:24:45.820 yeah so i can respond jared jared jared one second that's a few of the people that was a low iq argument

01:24:51.500 okay cool uh let's go let's go to adam adam you got a question

01:24:55.440 yeah sure so um you know he stood in between the ice and and the and the woman and she got pushed

01:25:01.800 down in front of him um you you can call that assault if you want i don't i don't think that

01:25:06.420 was assault i think he he just stood in between them two and then they pulled him off of the

01:25:11.500 they pulled him off the woman they pulled him off of her and then um one you can see one uh agent

01:25:18.560 disarms him and then they shoot him in the back uh repeatedly um after uh after he's been disarmed

01:25:25.900 i don't i don't see how that can be justified i already explained this earlier and in great detail

01:25:31.660 i must have missed that um but yeah this doesn't seem to do so what was the just what was the

01:25:37.200 justification well you can listen back on the space we've been through it okay i'll do that it's

01:25:41.620 recorded isn't it yeah it's recorded and we're live streaming on youtube as well so you can listen

01:25:45.720 to it back on both cool cool um so yeah so that's just my opinion then so my opinion is just like um

01:25:50.280 they disarmed him so i don't think it's justified justified to shoot him like multiple times in the

01:25:54.380 back um yeah so so i just i don't think that was fair because he was he wasn't he was there just

01:26:00.440 filming he was minding his own business he wasn't there to uh interfere law enforcement it was it was

01:26:06.220 only when the uh woman got pushed down you know with two arms pushed down and on the ice in front of

01:26:12.060 him that he just um he just uh left to her defense as um and that is interfering law enforcement right

01:26:17.260 there that is done it might i don't know i don't know if it's if it's if it warrants like 10 guys

01:26:24.820 jumping on him and and bear spraying him straight away i feel like they they weren't trained well

01:26:29.820 enough like that they just escalated that way above where it needed to be escalated like uh he wasn't

01:26:35.640 he wasn't fighting with he wasn't fighting with ice like they they he put he put himself between them

01:26:40.800 and that was and he was facing away here's the thing you already lost as soon as he put himself

01:26:45.640 in between that ice that that border patrol agent and that woman he interfered and at that point you

01:26:50.760 forfeit all privilege to have the moral high ground at that point now they're going to deal with you in

01:26:54.060 a different way yeah but murder is in sanction is in sanction for that they can deal with you they

01:27:00.160 can arrest you they can they can they can cuff you and they should have been able to there was 10 of

01:27:03.720 them there was like 10 uh uh or seven seven ice agents like they should have been able to cuff him i think

01:27:08.640 it speaks to their lack of training that seven of them couldn't get someone who wasn't actually

01:27:13.000 trying to fight them you know and they bear sprayed him on top of that so the fact that it led to him

01:27:18.240 being shot on the back leg 10 times is just it's it's it's ridiculous like that's it just shows that

01:27:22.980 they really really didn't go to a good academy or they weren't trained how they should have been

01:27:27.320 trained here's the thing dude um let me do you live in the uk or you live you live in europe somewhere

01:27:31.260 yeah i live in the uk yeah okay our police are well-trained so it's never happened to you

01:27:34.920 anything like that your police don't have guns um and you guys also don't have a second amendment

01:27:38.840 so you guys don't have the same use of force doctrines that we have over here which you know

01:27:43.100 obviously is why you're speaking from an extremely limited um purview and perspective because quite

01:27:48.000 frankly you don't understand our laws here with the second amendment i want to just interject it has

01:27:51.980 happened here adam it happened here with charles de moneda says they shot him in the back and he was

01:27:56.940 the wrong person do you not remember well here's the thing um you know yeah we have some cases

01:28:01.300 you guys might have one or two shootings it's an exception yeah you guys might have a few shootings

01:28:05.560 a year if that but the reality is that your guys law enforcement in general don't have guns guns are

01:28:10.660 hard to get a hold of in the uk so whenever british people talk about use of force in america i always

01:28:15.400 kind of laugh because nine out of ten times you guys are just ignorant to the facts and the fact that

01:28:18.920 like we have a completely different uh rule of law when it comes to self-defense and use of firearms

01:28:23.740 with the second amendment here so let me quickly go over this because you keep bringing up this

01:28:27.420 thing about him getting shot in the back that's not relevant what matters is simply this

01:28:32.180 they're there doing an enforcement operation he's engaged with a female pushes female as he pushes

01:28:38.920 female alex pretty comes up to him to get in the middle at that point he's forfeited all leverage

01:28:43.700 then they pepper spray him as they pepper spray him they try to detain him he resisted detainment

01:28:49.420 as they're struggling one of the board of trade just says gun when they say that obviously everyone's

01:28:55.760 uh more alert more uh an awareness is heightened one of the border patrol agents disarms the guy

01:29:01.400 as he's walking away with the disarmed with with the gun the gun goes off okay there's accidental

01:29:07.720 discharge when that gun went off the other border patrol agents that were dealing with the suspect

01:29:11.920 because they were focusing on him not necessarily the other agents they assumed oh he the gun went

01:29:17.920 off somebody said gun and we heard the gun go off they're not going to take any chances what do

01:29:21.300 they do they start shooting him also it's important for people to understand that while this

01:29:25.160 struggling was ensuing the person that shot him shot him from his left as he was shooting him from

01:29:29.660 his left he was able you you can see alex pretty moving his right hand to his side now again that's

01:29:35.680 where his magazines were he didn't have his gun you can make the argument of well he was reaching but

01:29:39.540 he wasn't reaching for anything that's irrelevant what matters is what was known to the border patrol

01:29:43.560 agent at the time he fired the weapon and at the time he knew there was a gun he knew this guy was

01:29:47.700 resisting and he heard a gunshot these are all articulable facts that would lead his shooting to be

01:29:53.180 reasonable in america you're not judged on 2020 high sight you're judged that was the shooting

01:29:57.680 reasonable given the facts and circumstances when you pulled that trigger and the reality is

01:30:01.760 it was reasonable now i'm not here to argue that it was good not here to argue if it was uh fair or

01:30:07.800 nice i'm just here to argue that it was 100 lawful

01:30:11.680 but what did you make of it what did you make of he said 10 times myron what did you think of 10

01:30:19.840 times though that was a that was a good point 10 times what um that he was shot i didn't hear you

01:30:24.360 talk about that what did you make of that uh law enforcement is trained to stop the threat

01:30:27.880 so are you saying one shot or 10 shots that that's what they're taught is to stop the threat you don't

01:30:33.260 think that's relevant though because i thought that i mean 10 shots in the back i mean

01:30:37.500 like well they're gonna stop the threat dude like like you know it's interesting because i guarantee

01:30:43.440 if you guys were in that situation right and you heard someone scream gun gun gun and then you heard

01:30:47.420 a gun go off you would shoot as well like it's interesting how people operate from a 2020 high

01:30:52.480 so like dude what did you shoot 10 times when your life is on the line and it's a life or death

01:30:55.940 situation you got to make a split decision you'd be amazed at how many times you're going to pull

01:30:58.920 that fucking trigger to make sure that they don't shoot you and there were what like six or seven

01:31:03.780 agents there there were seven okay uh call me tell me have you got a question is pummeling someone

01:31:11.040 in the face with the bear bear i just want to make is that legal too i just want to make a statement

01:31:16.400 that we should reject characterization of these people as protesters because they're not

01:31:20.520 cool thanks for that a very important statement uh let's go to um let me just bring some more

01:31:28.740 people up okay let's go to drew drew have you got a question what about the bear spray question

01:31:32.640 about pummeling in the face with the bear spray is that is that normal protocol too

01:31:38.260 yeah they can use mace or a taser they can use anything they need to to get someone compliant

01:31:43.280 no no but punching them in the face with the thing they would like pummeling them in the face

01:31:48.020 with the bear with the not the spray itself you can you can use whatever you need to do to to get

01:31:53.400 the person to comply and uh and you know get detained they can do that

01:31:58.740 let's go to kyle kyle you got a question like the the moral of the story is don't interfere with

01:32:06.400 law enforcement operations when you're armed like it's just that simple like it's really that simple

01:32:10.980 like you guys are trying to find a way to put like the onus on the border patrol agents when in reality

01:32:15.900 this guy should have known better being a concealed carry holder hey how's it going thanks for bringing

01:32:21.560 me up uh yeah i'm an infantry soldier from uh iraq afghanistan um 2009 to 2012 and uh simply put the guy

01:32:32.060 got him got himself into that situation i live in texas and we're you know very uh weapon friendly here

01:32:39.280 but um yeah the outrage is just completely unjustified um the ice agents are conducting uh

01:32:47.940 high level uh extract extraction uh missions right um no one no one is qualified to interrupt these

01:33:00.980 types of missions and these are well orchestrated these are highly trained individuals the person who

01:33:06.040 shot renee good the uh the ice officer he put two in the chest one in the head so these are not

01:33:13.840 accidental freak accidents like these aren't like under trained individuals these are highly

01:33:19.760 trained eight week training is what they're getting right now instead of six months by the way just so

01:33:24.020 you know about the highly trained bullshit you're saying highly trained bullshit and that's and that's

01:33:28.740 yeah because that's actually advertised join ice only eight week training bonus for signing up

01:33:36.040 that is the ad so you're an expert on their qualifications is what you're saying no i just

01:33:40.880 saw the ad that they're actually promoting you're an expert you know the resumes you know the resumes

01:33:46.560 of all these individuals okay these these are not rangers listen the title of this space i don't know

01:33:52.100 why we keep going back to you have to be an expert there are doctors there are nurses there are parents

01:33:56.740 listening right now sure i agree most of us are not fucking experts on this or that or that

01:34:02.420 whenever something happens in schools uh myron doesn't say you have to be a fucking teacher to

01:34:07.060 be an expert okay so i'm so tired of saying we all have to be experts sure we do and by the way myron

01:34:13.860 is giving really good advice right now on some of this stuff okay but to keep saying that you have to

01:34:19.000 have a damn degree or you have to go to law enforcement academy just to have a fucking opinion

01:34:23.740 is pretty garbage so can we just please stop with that well there's people listening right now

01:34:28.380 there's people listening right now that are not law enforcement officers that are not airport

01:34:33.140 police officers or ice agents or military ordinary people who have ordinary jobs disagree and their

01:34:40.100 disagreements should be highlighted thank you yeah i think everyone here agrees if you impede an ice

01:34:45.980 officer look you're a retard and you should go you should be sitting at home you shouldn't and that's

01:34:51.960 what i'm saying and and as a concealed carry permit holder you're you're you're even stupider

01:34:56.980 yeah i just don't agree he was impeding that's the only that's the only place where we disagree

01:35:02.060 myron that's all but i think if people are going out there on purpose to do that look i'm not standing

01:35:07.280 up for you people because you shouldn't be doing that you can document it be on the sidewalk whatever

01:35:13.380 just stay out of the way that's not how you're you're gonna win your cause or whatever i agree the

01:35:19.500 people outside that hotel where uh ice agents were believed to be staying um uh last night they

01:35:25.220 should have got their asses handed to them i mean literally there was one ice agent officer there

01:35:29.480 and there was like 30 protesters and like one ice and you even had the ice officer mass saying where's

01:35:36.120 local pd i agree local police departments and sheriffs and if you know the twin cities well there's a

01:35:41.720 lots of sheriff um sheriffs counties you have henna been county darrett in terms of what you're saying

01:35:47.560 about expertise i think this is just a lack of understanding of expertise and i think what's happened is

01:35:52.880 because people live in this social media sphere where they don't they don't have education they

01:35:58.080 don't have background they try and diminish it so there's two aspects to it so one is of course having

01:36:02.880 expertise in a field gives you an advantage to people on x claim and otherwise is the stupidity at

01:36:09.520 the highest levels and it's because they don't have a background they don't have degrees they don't have

01:36:14.000 some kind of background in whichever expertise there is expertise does provide some kind of basis

01:36:19.920 separate to that is if there's a claim that one needs to automatically believe someone solely based

01:36:28.080 on them being an expert no of course then one would analyze one would uh look at the situation one

01:36:34.560 would verify one would look at the data and then try and come to a conclusion even then you would do

01:36:40.000 it based on reading other experts or reading other information or analyzing it so this claim that expertise

01:36:46.080 has no value is stupidity i only hear it on social media because most people are uneducated so laman i

01:36:51.600 didn't say that hold hold hold hold just one second so so i need to correct the fact do you want

01:36:56.320 me to finish my point before you interrupt you just keep interrupting yeah but you you just twisted my

01:37:01.120 point so acknowledge that first no but the point is i'm gonna respond to the way i want so this this

01:37:07.680 claim is like i said ridiculous expertise does provide a basis now does it mean that somebody has an

01:37:12.800 expertise i'll solely agree with them no so for example there were coveted experts who said x so

01:37:18.480 i didn't automatically agree with them but at the same time i analyzed it myself but then i looked at

01:37:22.880 all the experts and what they had to say i looked at all the research papers of experts and said what

01:37:26.720 they said i wouldn't just be like blood i don't believe it so their expertise matters but then also

01:37:32.160 blindly following experts obviously should also not be happening so yeah when somebody comes up and says

01:37:36.720 like i'm an expert on x y and z yeah i do think that their opinion has some kind of validity and then we

01:37:41.600 we can analyze this specific argument and see whether it has flaws or not

01:37:48.000 okay so okay so you must have heard okay with all the respect solomon i don't know if you heard

01:37:51.760 three seconds of what i said or are you just cutting little snippets right we we we cover on this space

01:37:57.680 all the time of gaza and genocide right solomon i don't think you're a physician but you give your

01:38:02.400 expertise on what's happening in gaza i'm not saying expertise why do you need to be a physician to

01:38:07.840 talk about something in gaza right genocide people being killed right medically right no that's

01:38:12.720 genocide isn't medically so are you a war analyst are you are you a military so so that's what i'm

01:38:19.120 saying no no so again you're again not understanding the point so let me again so now okay this is an

01:38:25.440 example of the stupidity so let me be clear on this so with gaza genocide so the word genocide

01:38:31.840 has a specific definition to it so that is a both a legalistic definition and a dictionary

01:38:37.520 definition that's something we can read that's something we can analyze there are legal experts

01:38:41.200 who took it to the icc and the icj and the icj said there's a high uh there's that they said that

01:38:47.120 there likely is a genocide in gaza in addition to that i agree and so that's legal experts but separate

01:38:53.440 to that when hey guys do me a favor uh like the video bro we're sitting at uh we're we're gonna do

01:38:59.840 money monday here in a second i'm just waiting for fresh to get here but we got 700 likes guys

01:39:03.600 so smash that like button for me okay let me read some of these chats uh mine uh shittyapolis uh mayor

01:39:09.760 says they are deploying national guard members to combat ice is this true and if so how uh is that

01:39:14.800 reasonable for the government to deploy them to the combat federal agents uh they're just they're

01:39:18.000 just posturing they won't be able to do anything because at the end of the day bro the national guard

01:39:21.040 is still the military still army so um they won't be able to do anything uh chef mac uh can we talk

01:39:28.560 about money and investments we're going to do that uh we're going to do that here in a second

01:39:32.400 uh zhc says these people are actually defending resisting law enforcement if i went to the hood

01:39:36.400 and advocated them because i didn't agree with what they were doing and got killed no one would care

01:39:40.240 exactly marie's too low iq to interpret to comprehend what you are saying to them yeah bro i like this like

01:39:46.000 when it comes to when like i'll tell you guys this one of the things that really exposes these these

01:39:51.040 progressives as retards is like use of force situations like this like when i was explaining the the

01:39:56.080 renee good situation and people were like fighting me on that on that i was like wow people are really

01:40:01.200 fucking dumb like if you don't understand the concept that a car is a deadly weapon uh i don't

01:40:06.240 know what what to tell you like you're literally stupid and you're probably not really second amendment

01:40:10.880 uh pro second amendment but yeah these ice shootings have really um been able to expose like stupid

01:40:18.080 people to me um hey myron uh your mods kicked me out of oss i didn't violate any of your guidelines

01:40:23.120 uh anonymous said that what did they kick you out for you were you putting porn in there some

01:40:26.560 shit like that uh this is says uh myron is funny hayden says uh yo myron do you plan on coming to

01:40:31.440 campus in tampa uh you'd have to campaign for me to go to your school you got to get a uh you got

01:40:36.160 to make an uncensored america chapter um blue says hey myron i have a question about something everyone

01:40:42.080 is missing about the shooting from what i uh have read he was not lawfully carrying because he was

01:40:47.200 carrying his gun while being involved in a crime which is impeding an investigation could that be true

01:40:50.960 uh you could interpret it that way uh restless viking says what would you do if you were in

01:40:56.000 charge of ice safety to minimize accidental shooting shootings um they need to stay locals

01:41:00.880 out there bro that's a big part of the problem here ken rose five bucks uh jhn says uh i'm trying

01:41:06.480 to join eyes withering if you had any tips i could for my application uh just go through put it in bro

01:41:11.040 put it in apply everywhere san porter bridges amaran i understand your motivation oh no we caught up on

01:41:15.040 that one uh pop smoke says how are these leftist cucks so dumb he wasn't impeding he literally got

01:41:21.520 in between a lady and the officer yeah bro they're stupid dude they're stupid and um that's like i told

01:41:26.560 y'all before these ice shootings um really reveal who the retards are it really does like dudes are over

01:41:33.520 here saying well they trade with idf what does that have to do with anything when it comes to this

01:41:38.320 particular shooting like this has that has nothing to do with the argument at hand yeah and and even

01:41:45.440 if they did uh train with the idf that has nothing to do with this right despite the fact that like

01:41:51.040 training with idf is not in the actual customary training how do i know that because i've been

01:41:55.440 through hsi sat i have a certain certificate right here behind me that says i completed hsi

01:42:01.040 special agent training there's no idf training in there bro there's none so um this training that

01:42:06.800 they're talking about was probably like some supplemental training that you know just a few

01:42:10.800 agents participated in and it really doesn't have anything to do with what's going on here

01:42:14.960 so people are just dumb dude but anyway i'll turn this shit back on so you guys can hear

01:42:20.160 and then uh mikey says mark can you leave the space please i can't stand these low iq dumb fucks i'm

01:42:24.000 trying to ask a question but these dumb fucks won't let me can you leave the dude just ask the question

01:42:28.640 here i'm here they're probably not going to let you come up or because you might not know and

01:42:34.640 you might have like a low following and they don't know who you are this is there to remove

01:42:38.000 illegal aliens not kill american citizens for no reason because of their race uh whether they're

01:42:43.360 jewish or black or something they're getting rid of illegal aliens and so far white people have been

01:42:48.320 killed it's not even racism they can't pull that card right the other guy it's a jew or whatever but

01:42:53.280 these arguments are all emotional they're all in hindsight and i'm sitting here like wow you know one

01:42:58.400 guy demanded me the other day make it make your position lucas morality i don't even know all the facts

01:43:02.960 yet i just learned the other day the gun misfires like myron said the agent accidentally misfired

01:43:08.640 or that gun actually supposedly the sig has a problem where it misfires all the time apparently i

01:43:13.680 don't know maybe he pulled the trigger but it was a tragedy nobody meant to kill this guy murder means

01:43:19.040 i'm gonna kill this motherfucker i can't wait the same thing with renee good right if someone just

01:43:24.000 walked up to her car put your window down i don't want to and then blew her face off that's murder

01:43:28.640 that's ridiculous right so all of these arguments are people who maybe they they see what's happened

01:43:35.280 with the idf and then they're saying are ice's idea it's not the idf blows up babies every day

01:43:40.560 and they laugh on telegram that's not what ice is doing so people voted for this they want to get rid

01:43:46.400 of the illegal aliens that's what they want they don't want to kill left-wing americans who are

01:43:51.120 protesting no one is doing that and i find it interesting i was kind of getting frustrated because i i i

01:43:56.240 respect all the anti-zionists i've been allies with you guys for a long time and it's like okay

01:44:01.520 two three people get shot by ice look what happened in iran and i'm not going to pull the zionist

01:44:06.080 narrative of 30 000 people but they were shooting people now whether they're massad agents whether

01:44:11.280 the iranians were tricked they're shooting thousands of people whatever the death toll is

01:44:16.240 is way more than two right so we have ice agents who these people in terrible situations then you have

01:44:22.880 the iranians are shooting crowds of people and i'm again i'm not pushing zion but then shouldn't

01:44:27.840 but then people want to invade iran over that so should people invade the us over that that's my

01:44:32.080 point my uh soliman i don't want to interfere with you even if iran did the worst possible

01:44:37.840 or any country south korea north korea syria i don't speak upon the domestic policies i tell everyone look

01:44:45.120 i'm with you against anti-zion uh with against israel because my country is blowing you guys up like my

01:44:52.000 country is literally blowing you up so you guys can talk about foreign policy all you want but when

01:44:58.000 it seems to me the left-wing anti-zionist movement which is by the way captured by you know who

01:45:03.120 is blaming racism white supremacy i got people telling me i'm living on stolen land i'm like

01:45:08.400 really i was born in italy i was brought from my parents like what are you saying like all this crazy

01:45:13.600 rhetoric that's blm coded and then that's why people are like who cares about these people getting

01:45:18.160 shot instead of feeling bad for these people who are being told to go there they're being told

01:45:23.040 ice has no jurisdiction yeah they do have a jurisdiction to execute the lawful mandate that

01:45:28.240 was given by the president you don't have a right to jump in there and park your car in front of them

01:45:32.640 you don't have a right to do anything but sit there and protest from the sideline so these people are

01:45:37.600 being told go do whatever you want fight one guy this guy with a dress over there telling him

01:45:42.720 we got to resist and kill everybody i don't know why he's not arrested yet for something but

01:45:48.160 people are getting emotional and i understand that it's ugly what happened it's a tragedy what happened

01:45:52.480 to renee good and and yes people on the right are saying i don't give a fuck fuck why i found out

01:45:57.280 well guess what the people on the left were laughing at charlie kirk they were making tiktok videos

01:46:02.880 yeah that's great fuck that fascist i mean it's just ridiculous so both sides are are trying to

01:46:08.640 use this as some kind of bludgeon to hit the other side and that sucks and that's tribalism

01:46:13.520 that's what happens but look myring laid it down exactly how he said it it is a lawful shoot it's

01:46:19.760 ugly it's lawful but awful remember that and that doesn't mean i support and i'm getting called the

01:46:26.080 zionist bootlicker all these people that i see palestine flag or whatever you're a zon i can't believe

01:46:32.160 you betrayed us what do you your what i haven't said a single thing about any of your countries and

01:46:37.280 they're telling me i'm a fucking zionist now because i don't i that's a terrible it's horrible

01:46:42.000 what happened to this guy you know so again in america a lot of you guys who don't have guns

01:46:47.040 myron said it again it's when a police officer approaches a vehicle and they don't know who's

01:46:52.560 in that car they know americans are armed okay and what happens in the uk you might have a knife

01:46:56.960 or something all right in america people but lucas one thing i would say is when you're talking about

01:47:02.880 uh people from like you know people who are pro-palestine you've got people in the us and the uk

01:47:07.920 who are also white who are pro-palestine i'll give you an example i went to and they could be

01:47:12.640 the people who are saying that to you as well because i'll give you an example i went to our

01:47:15.520 white white liberals yeah no and i'm saying it's people from all races i'm not just saying it's white

01:47:19.440 people by the way so my point is this because they all say they don't care about all the sacrifices

01:47:23.360 we've all made they want you they want a purity test from all of us but the point is i went to a

01:47:28.480 do you remember when the encampments happened i never even mentioned it at that time because i

01:47:31.360 didn't want to have negative press about the pro-palestinian movement i'm basically a muslim

01:47:36.960 guy who is a brown right and i'll go into a pro-palestinian encampment in the uk in order to

01:47:45.200 highlight what they're doing and they're like oh what's your view on um well funny if they said tate

01:47:51.440 alex jones and myron and i said look like myron's my friend and i know tate as well at that time

01:47:57.120 and um they were like literally threw me out of the encampment and they were like you guys are

01:48:02.880 against feminism and i was like bro you're literally like let's be clear on this like the people my views

01:48:09.360 are more similar to the resistance views yours aren't and yet you're throwing me out of an

01:48:13.680 account about palestine so this happens all right guys so we're gonna uh get this thing going here let

01:48:18.800 me read some of these chats uh that one guy literally said adf trains ice uh to treat their targets like how

01:48:23.760 they treat those in gaza i have lost what little faith i had american general intelligence

01:48:26.960 yeah they're stupid bro like you're talking about an occupying force that just did a genocide

01:48:31.200 compared to guys that are just trying to deport illegal aliens retarded uh i know you're coming

01:48:36.000 to usc soon how would we go about getting you the liberal shithole college of charleston in south

01:48:40.720 carolina uh you got to join you got to basically make a chapter for uncensored america air fear says

01:48:45.760 holy shit these uk niggas are stupid they sound like liberal white women yeah dude they're stupid

01:48:49.680 um mikey says myron can you leave the space please i can't stand these low iq dump bucks i'm trying

01:48:53.760 to ask a question okay cool so uh guys we're gonna do many mondays my guy roger's here we're

01:48:58.400 gonna talk about real estate okay we're gonna be going through um how to get real estate how to deal

01:49:03.360 with real estate and then most importantly how to manage real estate roger's been my property manager

01:49:07.360 so we got a lot of fucking sauce to give you guys on this i'm really actually really excited because

01:49:11.600 i've been meaning to give you guys this for a while now so we're gonna um we're gonna discuss that

01:49:16.960 here so i'm gonna end the stream guys come on over to fresh fit let me go ahead and show you guys the

01:49:21.440 the link real fast okay uh fresh is not going to be here for this one uh wait where the hell

01:49:35.200 don't all celebrate at once uh

01:49:39.760 here it is

01:49:42.800 oh hold on right here

01:49:47.680 me and roger are gonna go live right now guys come on over

01:49:51.920 okay this is gonna be a banger

01:49:55.840 all right guys i'll see you guys over there come on over

01:50:01.440 come on over ninjas love you guys come on over

The Debrief With MyronGainesX - January 27, 2026

Debating Liberals On The ICE Shooting Of Alex Pretti! Justified Or Murdered？

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