On this episode of Fedit, we cover the most famous unsolved murder case in American history, The Zodiac Killer. This episode features a special guest, Annie Funanny, who is very familiar with the case and has been researching it for a long time.
00:04:14.320So the case has been described as the most famous unsolved murder case in American history.
00:04:19.140It became a fixture of popular culture and inspired amateur detectives to attempt to solve it.
00:04:22.920The Zodiac murdered five known victims in the San Francisco Bay Area between December 1968 and October 1969, operating in rural, urban, and suburban settings.
00:04:31.860He targeted young couples and a lone male cab driver.
00:04:35.440He has known attacks took place in Benicia, Vallejo, unincorporated in Napa County, and the city of San Francisco proper.
00:05:19.160And this is that website I told you guys about, ZodiacKiller.com.
00:05:22.200This website is run by Tom Voigt, okay, one of the top leading researchers for the Zodiac Killer, and there's been so many different Zodiac websites.
00:05:34.220But, you know, this is fairly accurate.
00:05:36.640When I looked at the police information versus this website and other websites, this is pretty much the definitive victim list that we know for a fact were his victims.
00:05:45.200So we're going to go over the first pair right now, which is David Faraday and Betty Lou Jensen.
00:06:09.620David Faraday, age 17, was shot once in the head at point-blank range and died within minutes.
00:06:14.320Betty Lou Jensen, age 16, was shot five times in the back and killed instantly.
00:06:17.820The weapon was a .22 caliber semi-automatic pistol.
00:06:20.620The ammunition was Winchester Western Super X copper-coated long rifle.
00:06:25.180There was no indication of robbery or sexual molestation.
00:06:28.040While there were no witnesses, several vehicles were seen in the area just prior to local resident Stella Borges discovering the crime scene.
00:08:26.700Her classmates ended up doing a fund, right?
00:08:29.060They organized some money to try to find who the killer was.
00:08:31.520And then the parents had no clue, is the family, for Ms. Jean Faraday, mother of Leho student David Faraday, who was shot to death near December 20th, is shown with her three other children, Debbie 16, Stevie 13, and Robert 15, in their home at 1930 Sereno Drive.
00:08:48.180But the slangs of David and Betty Lou Jensen remain unsolved.
00:09:00.080They're doing the bullet trajectory here.
00:09:02.720And then Solano County Coroner Dan Horan examines a bullet-riddled station wagon.
00:09:07.280And in this police report, guys, right, this is the actual police report of the shooting, all right?
00:09:16.000And as you guys can see, there are 60 different pages here.
00:09:19.020But I'll go ahead and summarize it for y'all because I already read through this thing pretty much.
00:09:23.800And there were a bunch of different witnesses that drove by, right, this area and saw a man standing outside of their vehicle with a gun, all right?
00:09:33.180And they called the police after the fact, but what the basic thing is, the basic conclusion here is that whoever this killer was, they didn't have much time to commit the murder and then get out of the scene quickly before the police arrived.
00:09:49.960Because there was a very tight timeline between witnesses seeing this man and the guy being able to commit the murder and get the hell out of there quickly, okay?
00:09:58.040So at this point, no one knew what the hell was going on, all right?
00:10:01.200So for two years, there was, like, no clues.
00:15:13.860So, the timeline of events on 12-20-68 on Lake Herman Road is an interesting one.
00:15:17.380It includes some questionable details.
00:15:18.740One thing is for sure, for being a dark, cold night on a quiet, lonely road, there seems to have been a good amount of witnesses in cars at and around the crime scene.
00:15:26.120An examination of the timeline is in order, but I will not attempt to discredit any of the witnesses.
00:15:30.160But we'll merely point out the approximate established times is taken from the reports, as well as details included herein.
00:15:37.760The first or perhaps the most interesting witness was William Crowe.
00:15:57.460At approximately 9.30 in 10, Crowe and his girlfriend claimed they were parked on that very spot where Faraday and Jensen would be murdered a little while, a little over an hour later.
00:16:06.440So, you're telling me another couple parked there, right, to maybe do a make-out session or whatever it may be, and they were there an hour prior.
00:16:18.540And they go, there were no other cars parked there.
00:16:21.040Crowe claims that while parked at the spot, checking out his girlfriend's new car, a blue car, possibly a Valiant, passed them coming from Benicia to Vallejo and then suddenly stopped in the road and started to back up.
00:16:33.940So, Crowe, sensing danger, quickly pulled out and the other car followed them at a high rate of speed before Crowe was able to quickly turn off, losing the blue car behind them.
00:16:43.040The car that chased Crowe apparently contained two white males.
00:17:12.940Passed the crime scene while out checking pipes for her husband's job.
00:17:16.180As they passed the pump station, the turnout, they saw Faraday's Rambler with a boy sitting in the driver's seat with the girl resting on his shoulder.
00:17:22.940Certainly based on what she witnessed, there was no sign of foul play at 11 p.m.
00:17:26.560Just as young people parked in a quiet area enjoying their time together, Ms. Yore went into detail even stating that when her headlights, when her headlights, his Dave's car, Dave put his hands on the steering wheel.
00:17:37.900It's obvious she was providing great detail here.
00:17:41.820And while Ray Grant would have you believe that the kids were kidnapped earlier and that Ms. Yore was lying or making these details up, there is zero evidence to support Ray's theory.
00:17:53.320But either way, the point of this, guys, is that they go ahead and let me.
00:18:00.980So, in her later report about three months after the incident, Ms. Yore continues to say that she saw the two victims in the Rambler and again mentions that when their headlights shined on the young Caucasian couple consisting of a boy and a girl, the boy says to himself, moving in a seat.
00:18:13.440She also, once again, details the hunters and their clothing.
00:18:16.540Nothing changes in the description of the scene or the car.
00:18:18.720She estimates that she encountered the hunters and saw the Rambler at about 11.15 to 11.18 p.m.
00:18:24.280Ms. Yore, sorry, Ms. Yore describes the same details and estimated that they were at the scene between 11 and 11.20.
00:18:32.280The Yore's clock was found to be off by such and such minutes.
00:19:27.740After the yours turned around, the hunters sat there about another five minutes and then drove off.
00:19:34.420Connelly estimated they left the area between 11.05 and 11.15.
00:19:37.360If we assume that the hunters started walking back to their truck at Connelly's earliest estimated time of 10.50 and it took them three to ten minutes to get to their truck.
00:19:45.240They arrived at the truck at about 10.53 to 11.00 p.m.
00:19:48.180They sat there until approximately 10.58 to 11.05 p.m., at which time they saw the yours turn around.
00:19:54.220They then sat there another five minutes or so until approximately 11.03 to 11.12 before they left.
00:20:30.180At approximately 11 p.m., Peggy and Homer Yore, the witnesses that we talked about before, returning from Sacramento, heading west on Lake Herman Road.
00:20:35.240Because Homer Yore wanted to check some pipes near the Marshall Ranch as he worked for a construction company laying pipes in the area.
00:20:41.220As they passed the turnout, Peggy Yore would recollect the young couple in the Rambler, right?
00:20:46.060Saying that, of course, she shined a light on them, et cetera.
00:20:48.600As they were driving west on Lake Herman Road at the turn off to Benencia Water Pumping Station, she observed a Rambler Station wagon parked with front and end heading east.
00:20:58.740There were two Caucasians in the front seat, male and female.
00:21:02.560They proceeded toward the Marshall Ranch, which was located at approximately 30 seconds driving time beyond the turnout, where they encountered the two raccoon hunters, Frank Gasser and Robert Connolly, as they turned into the gated entrance of the ranch.
00:21:15.060They noticed one of the men had a long-barreled gun, while the other had a flashlight, so decided to reverse and head east back to Benencia when they passed the turnout for a second time.
00:21:25.740The Rambler of David Faraday and Betty Lou Jensen was still there.
00:21:28.440The time was now a few minutes after 11 p.m.
00:21:32.080So, obviously, guys, timelines are off.
00:21:37.220You know, who knows if any of these people were actually the killers and they just didn't want to, you know, give accurate statements on times.
00:21:43.720Here's colored photos of the two victims.
00:21:45.980And this pretty much went unsolved for a significant amount of time, right?
00:21:51.660So, now, we're going to go ahead and move on to the second murder, okay?
00:22:01.480And this is where things start to get a little bit more focused, all right?
00:22:04.600This is the issue sometimes with witnesses because times are off.
00:22:10.020This is the beauty of having other witnesses and having something like cell phone evidence, et cetera, location data to be able to verify things, which, you know, obviously, in the 60s, they didn't have any of that stuff, right?
00:22:22.020Which made catching killers much more difficult.
00:22:24.660Technology was not on law enforcement side.
00:22:26.240So, now, we're going to go ahead and fast forward approximately almost a year later, okay, guys?
00:22:36.980And this is the next victims, set of victims, Darlene Elizabeth Farron and Mike Renat-Maju, okay?
00:22:48.560Now, I'm going to go ahead and show you guys a clip that illustrates this attack, and then we're going to go ahead and go through the evidence.
00:22:54.720So, I think it'll be easier for you guys to understand.
00:22:57.480Now, this comes from the movie Zodiac, 2007 film.
00:23:00.560This movie actually was very well done, very well researched.
00:23:04.220The director of this movie took great effort to illustrate the movie and be as accurate as he possibly can about a bunch of the facts in it, okay?
00:23:14.820So, what we're going to go ahead and do is, similar to the first set of murders, right, with Faraday and Jensen,
00:23:23.300these two, Darlene Elizabeth Farron and Mike Maju, also are parked in a secluded road in California,
00:23:33.680and, you know, they're potentially going to get some type of action going, and this is what occurs.
00:23:41.980So, he told some hecklers, fuck off, right, that we're, this is July 4th, 1969, right, Independence Day in the United States for all my foreign guys out there.
00:31:46.020And keep that in mind because he's going to give important details later on.
00:31:48.780Details were included that only the killer could have known, and each letter contained one-third of a cipher that, if solved, supposedly contained the killer's identity.
00:32:00.280While the killer hadn't yet given himself the name Zodiac, this marked the beginning of a letter-writing spree that would go on for more than five years.
00:32:53.060And if you guys notice, he actually shoots the women way more, and you guys are going to notice in the next attack, he's always more ferocious with the women.
00:32:59.680He kind of deals with the guys as, like, a requirement, but he takes more, uh, time with shooting and attacking the women.
00:33:07.780Which is, uh, also gives an indication as to where his mindset is at.
00:50:37.340And I feel that he should definitely seek aid.
00:50:41.420At any agency that he wants to go to in law enforcement.
00:50:45.020Also, I want to make this mention as well, guys.
00:50:51.760That's very important observation here.
00:50:53.260The roadway observations of the Zodiac crosshairs and dates on the car door occurred after 8 p.m.
00:51:00.980Once the ambulance had departed the scene, making any Zodiac style payphone message, SM40 undoubtedly the attacker at the lake and one perpetrator of the crime and call.
00:51:08.720The silent left visible footprints to and from the crime scene, later believed to be a 10 and a half style military boot called wing walkers.
00:51:18.000Guys, this is a very important detail.
00:51:20.700Okay, because these boots are from the military.
00:51:24.360Okay, the Navy to be specific, the distance from the Carmen Gia, which is a vehicle to the crime scene was approximately 510 yards.
00:51:32.080But what became familiar became a familiar trait throughout the Zodiac investigation.
00:51:36.340And the killer left the message this time written on the couple's car with a black marker pen.
00:51:46.580By knife, which was the last attack he did, but the wing walkers, okay, are right here.
00:51:56.040They're a type of combat boot, okay, designed for paratroopers featuring calf length lacing.
00:52:01.620Well, actually, it's a jump boot, but let me go back here.
00:52:04.580They might have put the wrong link there, but but he left those footprints at the scene.
00:52:09.980Okay, and these boots guys, you really can't get them unless you're in the military and they were size 10 and a half.
00:52:15.920All right, so now they know approximately how tall the guy is.
00:52:19.260They know that he's obese to some degree.
00:52:20.660He's kind of fatter, okay, and they know that he wears a size 10 and a half, all right, and they know he has brown hair.
00:52:27.880And it's a little bit longer because Cecilia, before she died, right, when she was interviewed, said that she remembered that he had something like clip-on glasses over his mask, but she could see brown hair draping over his eyes.
00:52:39.160Okay, which is terrifying, but let's go back to this interview here.
00:52:46.100And we won't play the whole thing, guys, but they actually interview Hartnell here.
00:52:52.340Let me fast forward this a little bit, 1960s.
00:53:03.080In speaking with one of the deputies who was investigating this thing, he said that the first thing you told a deputy out there was to give some idea of a description of the man.
00:53:14.100Do you understand now how your mind was able to work that well under those conditions?
00:53:18.960You really did an exceptional job in that.
00:53:22.700Well, through the whole thing, like I mentioned before, at the beginning, I did think I was going to die.
00:53:28.420And so from that moment on, one has to have certain goals that you have to set.
00:53:33.060The first goal, of course, was to live.
00:53:36.340I suppose the second goal was to get untied.
00:53:42.240I'm getting help, getting to the hospital.
00:53:45.880You know, you have to have a successive set of goals.
00:53:49.340And if you can keep this going and you can keep your mind active, I don't, whether you die or not, you're at least psychologically attuned, whether you're in shock or not.
00:54:01.760If you can keep arguing with yourself, praying, doing anything to keep your mind off of yourself or at least just not lapsing back and just saying, well, it's no use.
00:54:30.200Brian will probably be able to leave Queen of the Valley Hospital fairly soon.
00:54:34.920But where he's going from here is being kept secret in the event that the man who attacked him and killed Cecilia Shepard on Lake Berryessa a week ago Saturday tries again.
00:54:46.420Brian made it for two reasons some people might regard as intangibles, but reasons that for him were enough.
00:54:53.380A strong faith and an equally strong will to live.
00:54:56.660Dave Monsies, Eyewitness News, at Queen of the Valley Hospital, Napa.
00:55:05.900You know that this man is still at large and that there is a better than average possibility that this could be the same man who was involved in four murders over in Vallejo.
00:55:21.180Can you think of anything that you might want to tell that man at all?
00:55:26.660What he ended up saying is he prays for him.
00:56:34.940When a man is, if you don't mind using the word sick, you can't you can't hold this against them.
00:56:41.800But the real concern that I have is that he doesn't do this again.
00:56:45.240I would like I I'd like to see some people save this this experience.
00:56:56.220Early last Saturday evening, Celia Shepard and Brian Hartnell, both in their early 20s, were sitting on this knoll of land overlooking part of Lake Berryessa.
00:57:05.960They thought they were alone, but there was a third man on this knoll, a man who wore a medieval style executioner's hood, carried a knife and gun and intended to use them.
01:01:42.700And then victim Hartnell stated, suspect left the area after the stabbing.
01:01:49.000Victim Hartnell held a boat offshore and told the man in the boat the couple needed help badly.
01:01:54.120Victim stated the boat left the area, and he and the victim attempted to get help by crawling and walking to the road.
01:01:59.420Victim believed he had walked to the road.
01:02:01.200However, he had not gone too far from his wounded companion.
01:02:04.140Victim stated he thought suspect had been with the couple for approximately 15 minutes from the time of observing the suspect until the suspect departed.
01:02:11.560Okay, so the Zodiac was with them for about 15 minutes.
01:02:14.320Victim stated, and guys, this is an actual police report from 1969, man.
01:02:23.120Suspect did not take the wallet or victim's car keys.
01:02:25.840Victim stated the man in a pickup truck found him on the road and called an ambulance.
01:02:29.500Victim stated he estimated one hour in time was involved between the time he and Ms. Shepard were stabbed until help arrived.
01:02:36.080Ms. Shepard is listed in critical condition.
01:02:38.520All right, so the police report goes on, and I want to read you guys this chilling exchange, okay?
01:02:43.940So this is a dialogue between unknown assailant and Brian Hartnell, okay, which the movie got mostly right.
01:02:48.120But there's some things here, the key differences I kind of want to share with y'all.
01:02:52.040All right, let's enlarge this bad boy real fast.
01:04:47.100And OK, on the blanket say, would you answer a question for me?
01:04:51.760I've always wondered, on TV movies and an article in the Reader's Digest, they say that thieves really keep their guns, rarely keep their guns loaded.
01:07:35.860And then he laughs in a very relaxed manner.
01:07:40.600Brian goes, well, I suppose that I'd be nervous, too.
01:07:43.980Then after we were tied and hogtied, Brian goes, now that everything is all said and done, could you show me that your gun is loaded or probably this?
01:07:56.320Now that is all said and done was the gun really loaded.
01:08:00.540So basically, basically, he asked, can I see the gun?
01:08:03.260And then the Zodiac says, yes, it was.
01:09:18.120Brian stated that the assailant had a unique way of talking with John Robertson, his interviewer, correcting himself, saying, Brian, you mentioned he had a draw.
01:09:25.360And then he also stated he wore a black hooded mask of a cloth material covering his entire head and shoulders and reaching down to the waist.
01:09:31.240On the front of the four corner mask at the chest area was a white circle, three inches by three inches in diameter and a symmetrical cross.
01:09:37.900And the police report, Brian Hartnell backed up Cecilia Shepard and stated.
01:12:35.080We'll just move on to the next one and then I'll recap all the murders at once.
01:12:38.580So the next one here, guys, is the next big murder that came that they were able to tie was.
01:12:49.320Right here, Paul Stein, OK, killed October 11th, 1969 in San Francisco.
01:12:55.560Approximately 955 p.m., the northeast corner of Washington and Cherry Street in Presidio Heights neighborhood of San Francisco, California, a very wealthy neighborhood.
01:13:02.580By the way, guys, cab driver Paul Stein, age 29, was shot once in the head at point blank range.
01:13:08.000The weapon was a nine millimeter semi automatic pistol, not the same nine millimeter used in the Farron murder.
01:13:12.460There were three witnesses from a house on the southeast corner of the intersection.
01:13:17.740OK, so what I'm going to do, let me show you guys the clip and then we'll go ahead and.
01:13:23.120I'll show the clip for you out from the movie and then we'll get into the evidence.
01:13:30.140The man, they print his letters or he'd kill more people.
01:13:33.260Yeah, but he would have done it anyway, whether they printed it or not.
01:38:55.000Postal workers found it before it even got through the cancellation machine.
01:38:58.880We're just about in the same position.
01:39:00.520We're still following a tremendous amount of leads.
01:39:02.880We're getting a tremendous amount of information every day, not only from the Bay Area, but from all over the nation.
01:39:07.680As you know, we have heard from him ourselves through our local press, and recently he has written to an attorney here in San Francisco.
01:39:16.640But as far as any specific piece of physical evidence or any specific individual, we're no closer than we were.
01:39:25.040At one point in time, I was asked to go down and listen to a tape of an interview that had been on the Jim Dunbar show.
01:39:31.520And if I recall correctly, Melvin Belli was asked to come to the Jim Dunbar show, and so I was asked to listen to the voice, and there was some interaction between Melvin Belli and Jim Dunbar.
01:39:45.860My recollection of that voice is that wasn't even in the range of what I'd heard.
01:39:53.140I think I told him that I didn't think that was the voice.
01:40:24.080Were you in service, that you might have had an injury in service, or did you ever fly out of a tree or downstairs, were you ever unconscious?
01:41:06.340There's some reason why you go to a particular doctor or a particular priest, and some reason why apparently you wanted to talk to me or Lee.
01:41:16.940Is it that you feel that we have compassion for people who get in trouble?
01:41:21.440Or is it you feel that we can do something for you?
01:41:24.800Or is it you feel that we have enough integrity that we promise you something that we're going to stick to it?
01:41:32.100Well, let's find out why he wanted to talk to you.
01:41:34.280Why did you want to talk to Mr. Belli, Sam?
01:45:52.680The Zodiac killer detailed the first two attacks at Lake Herman Road and Blue Rock Springs Park in the debut of the Zodiac litter and goaded the public by writing,
01:45:59.100By the way, are the police having a good time with the code?
01:46:02.180However, the code will be deciphered only four days later, August 8th, by Bay Area residents Donald Jean and Betty June Harden of Salinas, California, who unearthed a message beginning,
01:46:13.580I like killing people because it is so much fun.
01:46:16.320It is more fun than killing wild game in the forest because man is the most dangerous animal of all.
01:48:57.520The letter below was to arrive at the San Francisco Examiner.
01:49:00.600Just one month later, the note said this.
01:49:03.400Dear editor, this is Zodiac speaking and answer to your question to your asking for more details about the good times I have had in Vallejo.
01:49:11.060I shall be very happy to supply even more material.
01:49:14.960By the way, are the police having a good time with the code guys?
01:49:18.480Keep in mind, he says this all the time.
01:53:13.620And that quote, guys, comes from the most dangerous game by Richard Carnell, first published on January 19, 1924, a chronicle of the man called General Zaroff, who lived on Ship Trap Island, where he indulged himself by capturing shipwrecked sailors before equipping them with clothes, a hunting knife, and food before releasing them with a three-hour head start, at which time he would hunt them down and kill them.
01:53:35.640However, if they were fortunate enough to survive for three days, he would grant them their freedom.
01:55:15.700So David Aranchak is from the United States and he has been working on trying to solve this cipher in his spare time for the Spartan super.
01:55:24.400OK, so this is what the code actually said.
01:55:26.760It took them 50 plus years to solve this thing, guys.
01:55:34.640Remember, guys, I showed you all that clip after one of the killings.
01:55:39.000And the guy tried to take credit for saying that he was the Zodiac, but he was actually just a sick individual from this clip right here when they when the guy tried to call into the show.
01:55:49.080So the Zodiac obviously took that shit personally, who was like, yo, that wasn't me on the fucking show.
01:56:01.880So he goes, I'm not afraid of the gas chamber because I will send because it will send me to paradise all the sooner because I now have enough slaves to work for me where everyone else has nothing when they catch when they reach paradise.
01:58:27.100And that was the one with it because it was the gas chamber, which is how you know it was a Zodiac, because he obviously took offense to that guy trying to take credit from calling into the TV show.
01:58:38.220Now, we're going to go ahead and get into one of the later.
01:58:43.400Now, this murder, guys, actually occurred right later on.
01:59:31.180And it was very bad, guys, because she was damn near decapitated.
01:59:34.340Bates had visited her college library, and police believe that when her Volkswagen Beetle was disabled by her eventual killer, her car was found approximately 100 yards from the alley where she was killed.
01:59:42.320A men's Timex watch band with a band suggesting 7-inch wrist was found at the scene along with a military-style heel print indicating a size 8 to 10 shoe.
01:59:52.860Well, guys, if you remember, right, those wing walker shoes were also found at other crime scenes as well.
02:00:53.260Also, an important note is that there was paint on this watch, guys, which we'll talk about that in a second, why that was relevant when we go over the suspects.
02:01:16.540Zodiac was first considered a suspect in the Bates murder in October 1969 when the Riverside Police Department noticed similarities between the Bates case and the Nappy County Zodiac killing of September 27, 1969.
02:01:28.300As you guys know, that's when they were attacked out there while picnicking.
02:01:31.240By November 1970, the news media had gotten wind of the possible Zodiac Bates connection, and both the San Francisco Chronicle and Los Angeles Times published lengthy stories.
02:01:42.060Zodiac detectives from the San Francisco Bay Area met with investigators handling the Bates case, and the conclusion was made that Zodiac was Sherry's killer.
02:01:49.000Eventually, the Zodiac sent a letter to the Los Angeles Times postmarked March 13, 1971, accepting responsibility for the Bates crime.
02:01:55.600As in the subsequent Zodiac attacks, the Bates case saw police taunting letters written to the newspapers.
02:02:01.380A confession letter was mailed anonymously from Riverside on November 29, 1966, to both the Riverside Police Department and the Riverside Press Enterprise newspaper and included details of the murder that had never been revealed by the police.
02:02:13.960Here is the confession letter right here, guys.
02:02:16.940She was young and beautiful, but now she's battered and dead.
02:02:21.020She's not the first, and she will not be the last.
02:02:22.960I lay awake nights thinking about my next victim.
02:02:26.580Maybe she will be the beautiful blonde that babysits near the little store and walks down the dark alley each evening about 7.
02:02:37.280Or maybe she'll be the shapely blue-eyed brunette that said no when I asked her for a date in high school.
02:02:45.520But maybe it will not be either, but I shall cut off her female parts and deposit them for the whole city to see.
02:43:53.320This was another piece of evidence that made people think that it was your boy Lee.
02:44:02.340So in January of 1970, the person claiming to be the Zodiac rang the Belli residence and spoke with his housekeeper, Erna, requesting to speak with a flamboyant lawyer, only to be told he was unavailable and out of the country.
02:46:29.000Now, let's go ahead and talk about Arthur Lee's connections to the Zodiac Killer began on October 30th, 1966, when Sherry Joe Bates was stabbed to death at Riverside College in Riverside, California.
02:46:43.040In late November 1966, two anonymous typewritten Bates murder confession letters were mailed to the local police newspaper.
02:46:50.740The typewriter was identified as being a royal model with either elite or pika tape.
02:46:54.680Allen allegedly was in Riverside the weekend Bates was murdered.
02:46:58.680The information placing Allen in Riverside was developed in 1971 by the Vallejo Police Department and California Department of Justice.
02:47:05.340Allen later hinted it was true, first claiming to have been in the area at the time, then telling people he was in nearby Pomona when he first heard of the Bates murder.
02:48:19.080So modern FBI profiles on serial killers usually say that during periods of activity, the killer will behave erratically, exhibit moodiness, drink or smoke more than usual, and miss work.
02:48:28.460During the execution of a 1991 search warrant, VPD seized a royal typewriter with elite type from the home of Allen.
02:48:36.280So they found a similar typewriter that was used to type up the confession that you guys saw with the Sherry Bates one that I read earlier that had all the details of using a short knife, choking her, etc.
02:48:48.980In late April 1967, three anonymous letters referring to Bates were mailed.
02:48:54.360In 1970, the Sherwood Morrill, head of the question document section of California's Criminal Identification and Investigation Bureau, right?
02:49:01.360Sherwood Morrill, like I said before, he was the handwriting guy, determined them to be the work of the Zodiac.
02:49:06.920Each contained double the necessary postage, a Zodiac trademark.
02:49:10.340Two of the three letters were signed with an unusual symbol.
02:49:12.860Some believe the symbol resembles a sloppy Z.
02:50:34.940Okay, timing his letters to be postmarked on a significant date was a Zodiac specialty in the Times reference to Bates in another example of this.
02:50:55.280The Bates murder was initially merely local news, not likely to have gotten much exposure outside of the Riverside area.
02:51:01.120If Zodiac didn't actually kill Bates, which is a strong possibility, he at least had enough knowledge of the crime to produce the anonymous confessions.
02:51:08.180And that's true, he did have quite a bit of information.
02:51:11.660A strong case can be made that Zodiac had ties to the Riverside area.
02:53:05.980Yeah, I'll show you that clip after because I don't want to get you guys too disconjointed here.
02:53:12.480Don eventually took this information to the police.
02:53:14.880And in 1972, the San Francisco Police Department was able to secure a search warrant against Alan as a Zodiac killer.
02:53:19.840Unfortunately, SFPD elected to search a trailer that Alan frequented in nearby Santa Rosa instead of searching his home at 32 Fresno Street and Vallejo.
02:53:33.360And as you guys know from the movie, he emptied out that trailer right prior after he got interviewed by the police on August 4th, 1972, I think.
02:53:45.880Because they got the search one, I think, in September.
02:53:48.180I think he got – let me – you know what?
02:55:32.980So this is where they should have done the search warrant, but they didn't.
02:55:35.240They did a search warrant on his trailer instead, thinking that the evidence was going to be there, right?
02:55:39.440Because it wasn't his official address.
02:55:41.020According to a police statement in early 1968, a conversation with his friend, Phillip, Allen is alleged to have been fascinated with the concept of hunting people.
02:55:51.480According to Allen, people would be more challenging to hunt than animals since they have intelligence.
02:55:56.200On July 31, 1969, Zodiac mailed the cipher to the news media.
02:56:00.900Within days, it was solved and stated that killing a man was more fun than killing wild game in the forest because man is the most dangerous animal of all to kill.
02:56:08.020As you guys know, this was the cipher that was solved by the schoolteacher and his wife.
02:56:13.560Additionally, during a 1971 police interrogation, okay, which was done on August 4th, right here, as y'all know, okay?
02:56:19.960Allen offered the fact that, as a youth, he had read a book that had made a lasting impression on him.
02:56:28.180The book was called The Most Dangerous Game and was about hunting a man like an animal.
02:56:34.600That's a lot of fucking similarities, huh?
02:56:37.460Then, on June 15, 1958, Allen was arrested by VPD and charged with disturbing the peace the result of an altercation with an acquaintance, Ralph Spinelli.
02:56:46.680The charges were dismissed on July 8, 1958.
02:56:48.860Zodiac would later taunt San Francisco Chronicle columnist Marco Spinelli in a letter postmarked July 8, 1974.
02:56:56.980According to statements of police by family and friends prior to the publication of the Zodiac codes, Allen had possession of codes featuring identical symbols.
02:57:06.680Additionally, Allen was known to use the same unusual spelling and phrasing as Zodiac later used, such as spelling Mary Xmas instead of Mary Xmas,
02:57:15.460and saying trigger mech instead of trigger mechanism, Allen would intentionally misspell words to be funny.
02:57:22.300So, the big one, guys, is Christmas with the two S's, okay?
02:57:26.660In a 1969 letter, Zodiac used the term bussy work, which is jargon used by elementary school teachers.
02:57:33.180Busy work is a technique used to keep children busy and therefore happy by assigning them menial tasks.
02:57:37.960As you guys know, right, we all went to elementary school and the teachers were like, yo, let's fucking do this crossword puzzle or some other bullshit, right?
02:57:45.260Price's determination in March 1968, Allen had almost 10 years of experience as an elementary school teacher.
02:57:51.380And as you guys remember, he made that threat about shooting kids as they came off of the bus.
02:57:57.080Despite some regular ramifications on his life, Allen continued to wear his Zodiac watch until it was seized
02:58:02.000during the execution of VPD's search warrant in 1991.
02:58:22.640And we know, he was wind walker boots and he wore a size 10.
02:58:26.140With no source of income, Allen moved back home with his mother and father at 32 Fresno Street in Vallejo, California.
02:58:34.680According to friends and family, Allen hated his mother and felt inferior to his father, Ethan.
02:58:39.040Ethan was a very successful military man.
02:58:40.800Certainly, being a child molester didn't help Arthur's status around the house.
02:58:44.260Allen began gaining weight and drinking heavily.
02:58:47.060They eventually taking a part-time job as a service station attendant.
02:58:49.620By winter, Allen was in a downward spiral of depression and alcohol abuse, most probably amplified by his two major stressors, his birthday and Christmas.
02:58:58.560Their apparently motiveless Lake Herman Road murders occurred on December 20th, 1968.
02:59:03.280So he was in a downward spiral in his life and he ended up killing those two, right?
02:59:28.140Profiles indicate serial killers are always active in areas they're familiar with.
02:59:31.140Allen was living only about seven minutes from Lake Herman Road crime scene.
02:59:35.240He had an explosive temper, was known to park and drink alcohol in rural settings such as Lake Herman Road,
02:59:39.580and always carried weapons in his automobile.
02:59:41.420In 1991, the search warrant executed by VPD revealed Allen owned the same type of ammunition used to kill the victims of the Zodiac's Lake Herman Road attack.
03:00:57.160According to a police statement, Phillip's Corvair was parked in front of a service station in Vallejo, where Allen had recently been employed, and the key was inside the office.
03:01:08.420Phillip had occasionally allowed Allen to drive the Corvair.
03:01:10.720The possibility exists that Allen either had a key to the car or to the service station where it was parked.
03:01:18.320Additionally, there are potential connections between Blue Rock Springs victim, Darlene Farrin, and Allen.
03:01:23.800In 1966 through 1967, Farrin worked as a waitress at the International House of Pancakes on Tennessee Street in Vallejo, less than one-tenth of a mile from Allen's home at 32 Fresno Street.
03:04:55.120On September 27th, 1909, Zodiac used a foot-long knife with a sheath and rivets to attack a young couple of Lake Berryessa in Napa County, just north of Vallejo.
03:05:04.480Allen, an outdoorsman, frequented recreational areas such as Berryessa, often trapping games, scuba diving, and camping.
03:05:10.120And I was familiar with the Berryessa area and even told VPD's Sergeant Lynch in October 6th, 1969 interview.
03:05:16.240And this was literally a week or so after, right, maybe a week and a half, that the day of the attack, he was going to go to Berryessa, but went up the coast.
03:05:27.140Instead, Allen first used a mysterious couple from Treasure Island as an alibi, but could never produce their names or phone number.
03:05:36.320On 1930s film, Charlie Chan at Treasure Island featured a villain named Dr. Zodiac, who wrote taunting letters about San Francisco crimes.
03:05:45.440Later, Allen attempted to use a deceased elderly neighbor as an alibi claiming this neighbor, William White, had seen Allen the afternoon of the Berryessa attack and that the two had a conversation.
03:05:57.460At this time, another William White, a ranger from Napa County, was all over the news as a spokesman on the Berryessa attack.
03:06:05.060Neighbor White died within a couple of weeks of this alleged encounter.
03:08:16.880Zodiac left a size 10 and a half footprints at the crime scene.
03:08:23.400According to a police report, Allen wore a size 10 and a half.
03:08:26.560These are the footprints right here, guys, from those wing walker boots.
03:08:30.520And we know that Allen served in the military.
03:08:33.860In 1991, the search warrant executed by VPD revealed Allen owned a foot-long knife with sheath and rivets.
03:08:40.000To date, even though it was an item it was looking for, VPD has not attempted matching Allen's knife to the wounds of the Berryessa victims.
03:08:53.480When Zodiac hailed Paul Stein's cab in San Francisco on October 11, 1969, his original destination was Washington and Maple Street in Presidio Heights, an intersection featuring a school crosswalk.
03:10:28.880According to a police report in 1991, Allen's old nemesis, Ralph Spinelli, came forward to VPD claiming that just prior to the Stein murder, Allen had admitted he was Zodiac and would prove it by going to San Francisco and killing a cabbie.
03:10:42.360After killing Stein, Zodiac took his wallet, car keys, and a portion of his shirt.
03:10:47.940In no other attack did Zodiac take items from his victims.
03:10:50.780It is a matter of fact that Zodiac did indeed prove he was Stein's killer, and he did so by including scraps of Stein's bloody shirt and his subsequent taunting letters to the news media.
03:10:59.780One such letter was postmarked November 9, 1969 and contained a bomb diagram.
03:11:04.600Ingredients for the bomb included ammonium nitrate, fertilizer, and gravel.
03:11:07.920Zodiac claimed in the letter that the bomb was being stored in his basement and that his killing tools were acquired through mail-order outfits.
03:11:16.800In 1991, the search warrant executed by VPD revealed Allen had, in his basement, handwritten diagrams for bombs comprised of ammonium nitrate, fertilizer, and gravel.
03:11:53.620Okay, now we're going to get into the timeline.
03:11:54.940So, as you guys can see, look at all the similarities and all the different crime scenes between Paul Stein, the Lake Berryessa stabbings, the Blue Rock shootings, and the Lake Herman Road shootings in the 60s.
03:12:11.960Um, I feel like everything leads to him, but I just, I don't understand, like, in the movie, um, they, like, disregarded him because, um, the handwriting was, like, off.
03:12:26.040The handwriting, and I think the DNA didn't match.
03:12:46.800I mean, if he's that smart, you know, putting all these things together, I mean, I couldn't put it past him to, you know, also take that step as well.
03:13:12.580He did a fantastic job of linking a bunch of this stuff, summarizing stuff for y'all.
03:13:17.140A big part of us being able to give you guys this awesome-ass Zodiac breakdown is because of his hard work and putting everything together,
03:13:22.520and me kind of putting it in a fashion for you guys where it's a little bit easier to digest.
03:13:29.040There is a Zodiac Black Hall that you can easily get into, and timestamps are definitely going to be on this podcast because we have a lot that we went through.
03:13:35.440All right, so Allen and Stein had much, okay, so now we're going to go into the timeline based on official police reports, social security records, employment applications, motor vehicle records, and testimony from friends and law enforcement officials.
03:13:48.920Most information about this suspect found elsewhere is grossly inaccurate.
03:13:51.580So, Arthur Lee Allen was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, December 18, 1933.
03:13:58.000Allen was reared in Vallejo, California, and was graduated from Vallejo High in 1950.
03:14:01.820It is suspected that the Zodiac had very close ties to Vallejo, most likely as a resident.
03:14:06.540Obviously, a lot of the murders happened in and around that area, right?
03:14:08.780In 1948 to 1957, Allen attended Vallejo College, majoring in liberal arts.
03:14:13.140He received an Associates of Arts degree in 1957.
03:14:16.0801951 to 1952, Allen worked as a lifeguard at The Plunge in Vallejo.
03:14:20.100In 1953, Allen worked as a sailmaker at Mare Island Naval Shipyard in Vallejo, California.
03:14:24.6001954 through 1960, Allen attended Cal Poly State College in San Luis Obispo, California, majoring in elementary education.
03:14:33.740He received his bachelor's degree in 1960.
03:14:36.5401957, Allen enlisted in the U.S. Navy.
03:14:39.940Zodiac was thought to have an affiliation with the military, most likely the Navy, because of the wing-walker boots we spoke about before.
03:14:45.820June 15, 1958, Allen was arrested by Vallejo Police Department for disturbing the peace as a result of an altercation with acquaintance Ralph Spinelli.
03:14:54.280The charges were dismissed on July 8, 1958.
03:14:56.580Zodiac demonstrated animosity towards the police.
03:14:58.360It could have stemmed from the perceived mistreatment.
03:15:01.400December 1958, Allen was discharged from the Navy.
03:16:14.400January 1969, Allen allegedly confided in Don Cheney that he intended to kill couples at random, threaten school children in taunting letters to the police and call himself the Zodiac.
03:16:40.840Living back at home with his parents, Allen was terminated from his part-time job at a gas station in Vallejo, where he had worked for approximately six months.
03:16:47.600In August 1971, Allen was described by his former employer as being undependable with a drinking problem.
03:16:52.640In addition, Allen was said to be too interested in small girls.
03:16:57.300July 1969, shortly after the murder of Darlene Ferrin, a relative of the victim informed investigators that Darlene had a relationship with some sort of man named Lee.
03:17:08.460And we know that Lee lived the minutes from her restaurant, and he took a fancy to a waitress at said restaurant.
03:17:15.940During the 1969-70s school year, Allen was employed part-time as a janitor at Elmer Cave Elementary School in Vallejo.
03:17:22.540During Allen's stint at Cave, Zodiac wrote letters threatening school children.
03:18:44.240Allen's father, Ethan, died at age 67.
03:18:45.920Ethan was the retired, highly decorated naval commander.
03:18:48.420Ethan Allen died on what had been Darlene Ferentz's 24th birthday.
03:18:53.500When Allen became a suspect, this was looked at with suspicion.
03:18:57.820On summer 1971, Allen was employed as a junior chemist at an oil refinery in Pineville, California.
03:19:03.440July 15, 1971, the Manhattan Beach, California Police Department was contacted by Allen's former friend, to whom Allen allegedly made the incriminating statements in January 1968, which we talked about before.
03:19:14.420A report was prepared by MBPD Inspector Dave Tosche, San Francisco Police Department.
03:19:24.540And that was Inspector Tosche, as you guys know, is the main SFPD guy.
03:19:27.880July 27, 1971, SFPD Inspectors Dave Tosche and Bill Armstrong, along with Special Agent Mel Nikolai from California, traveled to Vallejo to meet with Sergeant Jack Mullinex, a VPD regarding Allen.
03:19:40.660It was decided that more background information on Allen will be obtained before the contact would be made with him.
03:19:46.280Mullinex immediately began investigating Allen.
03:21:55.800Enraged at the search, Allen began granting interviews with the news media to proclaim his innocence and blast the police.
03:22:01.060There was a huge amount of circumstantial evidence against Allen, including Ralph Spinelli coming forward with Allen's incriminating statements on October 10, 1969.
03:22:08.460Saying, you know, as you guys know, saying he was going to kill a cabbie.
03:22:11.500August 1, 1991, Allen gave an interview to the Fairfield, California, Daily Republic, in which he claimed to have consulted with attorney Melvin Belli.
03:22:18.400Zodiac had written a letter to Belli in December 1969.
03:22:23.940Remember, guys, this is what the author, Graysmith, had referred to the letter and his birthday, December 18th.
03:22:32.740The letter can be found on the Zodiac letters page.
03:22:35.780And we already went through that letter.
03:22:37.560And then July 1992, definite Zodiac victim Mike Maju picked Allen out of a police photo lineup saying,
03:25:17.500Now, I want to make a quick note here, guys, just so you know.
03:25:21.340When police come in and interview you, all right, and they ask you questions, and it's like a free interview, and you're free to go, and they're not necessarily, you're not under arrest, or you're not being, you know, you're not detained.
03:25:33.340They don't have to necessarily read your Miranda rights.
03:25:37.980Anything you say could be used against you in a court of law.
03:25:39.940You know, if you're going to afford an attorney, it won't be appointed for you, blah, blah, blah, right?
03:25:42.620Every agency has a different, you know, variation of the verbiage, but that's essentially what it is, right, in the United States.
03:25:49.940But in this case, right, I don't know if they read him as Miranda rights when they actually went and did the official interview here in the movie.
03:25:56.280Obviously, they didn't add that in there, but they didn't necessarily have to.
03:25:59.840Now, when I was an agent, personally, I would read people their Miranda rights, right, just because, yo, listen, man, just so y'all know, this is just kind of what I have to get.
03:26:07.880I would kind of like downplay it a bit, read them their rights, and then if they did say anything, I would be covered, right?
03:26:12.880But can you get away with interviewing a suspect, asking them incriminating questions, right?
03:26:19.760Without Miranda, yes, you can if they were free to leave, and they were under that impression that they were free to leave, right?
03:26:25.460And if the detectives let them know, listen, man, you're free to leave, this is just a voluntary interview, we're just trying to gather some facts, blah, blah, blah.
03:26:31.480There's different ways to finesse it, but me, personally, I always used to read them their rights, right, at least verbally, and then get into the questioning.
03:26:37.880I would downplay it, of course, and then, you know, you would get into asking questions, but you can get away without it.
03:26:42.900So this could be factually correct as far as the movie goes.
03:33:38.720So they're saying that there was a myth that he was out of the United States in December 1968, including his having allegedly authored a newspaper article from Ireland.
03:33:47.780So you might wonder how did Gajkowski's headed for Europe claim somehow become unequivocal proof?
03:34:42.500We've established now that he was, in fact, in the United States on December 20th, 1968 for the first Zodiac murder, which was right here between David Arthur Faraday and Betty Lou Jensen.
03:35:00.400Gajkowski was born in Watertown, South Dakota on March 14th, 1936.
03:35:03.960He attended a nearby Webster High School and then Northern State Teachers College in Aberdeen, South Dakota.
03:35:08.440He died of cancer in San Francisco on April 30th, 2004.
03:35:12.920Gajkowski served a stint in the Army during the 1950s.
03:35:15.400It is known that Gajkowski was trained as a medic.
03:35:17.560Medics were trained to tear the clothing of a bleeding victim to use as bandages.
03:35:20.540If they did not have access to the proper equipment, undershirt first, then pants if necessary.
03:35:25.900That is the order of cleanliness with the shirt tail being preferred if tucked in.
03:35:29.900Zodiac tore off a portion of a victim's shirt tail.
03:35:33.100Unfortunately, since 80% of such records were destroyed by fire in 1973, not much more of known about Gajkowski's military career.
03:35:39.920In 1963, Gajkowski moved from South Dakota to San Francisco, California, living on Parnassus Avenue and working downtown at the Daily Commercial News, a financial newspaper.
03:35:49.160By December 1964, Gajkowski was living and working in Martinez, California, about 45 minutes from San Francisco.
03:35:54.900His home address was 1250 Escobar Street, which is located less than five miles directly south of the Zodiac's first eventual murders.
03:36:03.720During that time, Gajkowski worked as managing editor for the local newspaper on Martinez, the News Gazette.
03:36:08.960The News Gazette was owned by the same company that also owned the much larger Vallejo Times-Herald newspaper,
03:36:15.680which was headquartered less than 10 miles from Martinez's weekly editorial meetings for both the Martinez and Vallejo newspapers were held in Vallejo at the Times-Herald building.
03:36:24.420In October 1965, Gajkowski was intentionally arrested for refusing to sign a traffic citation following a routine stop in Contra Costa County, California.
03:36:32.900As an investigative reporter for the local newspaper, Gajkowski's goal was to write an essay, or sorry, write a story about the conditions within the county jail from the perspective of an inmate.
03:36:42.740Following his brief stay in jail, Gajkowski's mugshot was published along with his story.
03:36:46.520However, by the time Gajkowski became a Zodiac suspect more than 20 years later, records of his fingerprints were long gone,
03:36:52.280making a comparison to Zodiac's fingerprints impossible without either Gajkowski's consent or a court order.
03:36:57.900There's no evidence either happened, okay, so here's his picture right here, right?
03:37:04.400That was his picture from the article, and then here, what's this?
03:37:13.040This is what I'm talking about when I say that y'all can go ahead and this is where the Zodiac Black Hole can go.
03:37:21.200Okay, eventual Zodiac victim Darlene Farrin of Vallejo, California got married on, okay, now this is where the connections start coming, okay, guys?
03:37:27.840So start to pay attention here, all right?
03:37:30.940Eventual Zodiac victim Darlene Farrin of Vallejo, California, this lady right here, okay, the woman that was married,
03:37:38.200where we at here, okay, got married on January 1st, 1966, okay, and here's her affidavit of application for marriage to James D. Phillips
03:37:54.860from Los Angeles, California, and then Darlene E. Sonnenen of Rosemake, California, and they got married on January 1st, 1966, and moved to Albany, New York, all right?
03:38:11.040So she got married on January 1st and then moved to Albany, New York.
03:38:15.440Gajkowski quickly followed, moving cross-country from Martinez, California, near Vallejo, by the way.
03:38:21.520Farrin's husband worked at the Albany Times Union newspaper.
03:38:24.600Gajkowski worked in the same building at the rival Albany Knickerbocker News.
03:38:29.180In August 1973, four years after Farrin was killed by the Zodiac, the Times Union received a letter from someone claiming to be the Zodiac.
03:38:37.760When solved, the cipher that was included with the letter made reference to the Albany Medical Center.
03:38:56.100In 1969, 1970, and 1971, Gajkowski was a member of an anti-police, pro-violence, counterculture newspaper, and commune in San Francisco called Good Times, which had a story, sorry, that had a history, right?
03:39:09.960Yeah, dear editor, this is Zodiac speaking.
03:40:02.240As early as January 1969, the Good Times newspaper was running violent works of fiction that were nearly a blueprint, right, for Zodiac's future crimes.
03:40:10.820On July 4th, 1969, a band of revolutionaries calling itself the Berkeley Revolutionary Committee for Business successfully engaged and humiliated the combined police force of the Bay Area.
03:40:20.060138 police were killed in the 12-hour period.
03:40:22.160Well, guys, there's a connection there because, as we know, on July 4th, 1969, what happened?
03:40:26.120The murder of Darlene and the injuring of Vallejo, right?
03:40:32.200The pigs, I'm sure, must be frantically searching their suburban communities for bombs we warned of for booby traps.
03:40:38.740Well, we know that he also talked about this stuff in the letters.
03:40:41.360On January 28th, 1969, the San Francisco Express, which became the Good Times shortly after, published a work of fiction called The Berkeley Gluns, written by Lenny Keller.
03:40:50.360Wednesday was production day for the weekly Good Times newspaper, which the staffers worked from early in the morning until very late at night to prepare the new issue.
03:41:00.000Between the Zodiac's debut in July 1969 until the Good Times unfolded in 1973, the Zodiac mailed 15 letters.
03:41:07.100Never did he mail a letter on a Wednesday, although he did on every other day of the week.
03:41:12.560At the time of his murder, the Good Times switchboard was located only yards from the residence of Zodiac victim Paul Stein on Fell Street in San Francisco.
03:42:43.920On the very day Zodiac debuted by mailing three rush-to-editor letters to three separate newspapers in the San Francisco area with each letter containing one-third of a code,
03:42:55.140the Good Times, edited by Gajkowski, just happened to run a cover that was split into thirds.
03:43:37.660In articles he published in 1969, Gajkowski had the habit of shortening his last name to four letters and used multiple spellings such as Geik or Geik.
03:43:46.400Interestingly, Geik can clearly be seen in Zodiac's three-part cipher mailed on July 31st, 1969.
03:44:13.360At the very time the Zodiac wrote his only letter to the Vallejo Times-Herald, Gajkowski's best friend, Bob, worked at that very newspaper.
03:44:23.920Even though Good Times was a counterculture hippie newspaper, once Gajkowski came aboard, it ran free ads for such unlikely events such as performances of the Mikito, a Zodiac favorite.
03:44:34.340Zodiac sometimes quoted from the Mikito in his letters.
03:44:42.980So what was that, a rock band or something like that, I guess?
03:44:46.340On March 13th, 1971, Zodiac Killer sent a letter to the Los Angeles Times coinciding closely with the mailing.
03:44:53.900Gajkowski was involuntarily committed to the Napa State Hospital after going berserk.
03:44:59.080He was then diagnosed with a mental illness and began treatment at Mount Zion Hospital in San Francisco.
03:45:03.380The Zodiac did it right again for almost three years.
03:45:05.260When Zodiac reemerged in 1974 with letters referring to recent movie releases, Gajkowski was operating a storefront theater in the Mission District of San Francisco, a film buff.
03:45:14.780Gajkowski eventually became involved with the San Francisco's Roxy Theater.
03:45:18.420Nancy Sover, the police dispatcher who spoke with the Zodiac in July 1969, had identified Gajkowski's voice as being the same as Zodiac's voice.
03:45:26.040Remember, guys, he went ahead and called the police after he killed Farron.
03:46:10.600Now, listen to Richard talking about Zodiac's codes.
03:46:13.020The whole thing about a code, you've got to remember also, once a code, until a code is broken, you have never any way of knowing whether it's a real code or whether it's just a fake code.
03:46:26.860Well, it just means that sometimes, you know, like the military and all of that, sometimes you would send garbled messages that meant absolutely nothing so that you get the enemy to spend all their time trying to break the code.
03:46:44.000In 1996, the Napa County Sheriff's Department briefly investigated Gajkowski after urging from Goldcatcher and Pam Huckabee, sister of Darlene Farron.
03:46:53.100Detective Ken Narlow did a background check on Gajkowski and put him under surveillance for a few nights.
03:46:57.920Narlow found nothing to warrant further investigation and the matter was dropped.
03:47:01.540Meanwhile, the California Department of Justice determined that Gajkowski's handwriting had consistencies with Zodiac's handwriting and more samples of Gajkowski's printing were requested.
03:47:09.380Goldcatcher found printing that he could have belonged to Gajkowski, but those samples were determined not to be a match.
03:47:15.440There was not enough probable cause for an arrest or search warrant and the investigation ended.
03:54:14.660A lot of people think that this is him, and this broke from the cold case, right?
03:54:24.720Gary Francis Post, the Air Force veteran turned house painter, who may or may not have been the notorious Zodiac killer, has been revealed as the ringleader of a group of men he trained as killing machines.
03:54:34.880A team of 40 private investigators claimed last month that they had unmasked Post as a Zodiac killer who terrorized the Bay Area in the late 1960s with brutal murders accompanied by creepy riddles through photos and anagram code breaking.
03:54:48.100Now, they tell the Post that after the murders, Post led a bizarre double life in a small Sierra Nevada town.
03:54:55.580Zodiac mysteriously dropped out of sight in 1974 after a final letter to the media.
03:55:01.080The case is among the most famous unsolved murders in the U.S.
03:55:04.260Post moved to Groveland, California in 1970, according to Thomas J. Colbert, who runs the casebreakers team, consisting of former cops, forensic analysts, academics, and retired military, and has been working the case for about 10 years.
03:55:15.700He came to the High Sierra town after marrying a woman there who had a young child.
03:55:20.440The ledge killer fronted as a mild-mannered house painter and was well-liked by the locals.
03:55:24.760Colbert said, but he also began recruiting young men in their late teens and early 20s as his own personal criminal gang in the picturesque mountain town about 26 miles west of Yosemite.
03:55:38.360Some 10 men were part of the locals called the Posse, and they stayed loyal to Post for decades until he died in 2018.
03:55:44.660He would take them deep into the mountains where they learned to hike and kill, Colbert said.
03:55:48.500He taught them how to turn a pipe bomb into a bomb that would blow up houses.
03:55:51.800Colbert said if new cops moved into town, he would have the Posse throw rocks into their windows to get them to move out.
03:55:57.460He was involved in lowering guns out to suicidal people in town.
03:56:00.320According to Colbert, the men would go on hiking trips into the mountains to kill animals for fun.
03:56:05.420One time, he had a kid climb out of a tree, branch, and hang caches of raw meat from it.
03:56:10.860He said he also nailed salmon hooks below to catch bears trying to get to the meat.
03:56:15.240One time, there were three bears bleeding to death from the tree trying to get the meat, and Gary just watched them laughing at them.
03:56:24.000He described Post as type of a fagin, the child gang leader from the Oliver Twist who rounded up local wayward boys.
03:56:32.080Colbert added that there was no indication that Post had a sexual interest or sexual relationships with the young men.
03:56:38.380One Posse member, whom Colbert identified only as Will, fled Groveland in 2010 after seeing sketches of the Zodiac Killer confronting Post, he said.
03:56:49.560Former Air Force captain Hans Smits met Will, whose real name is Chris Avery, when Avery went to the Santa Cruz TV station to report Post.
03:56:57.240Smits was friends with the TV anchor Dale Julen at the station at the time.
03:57:30.480And they went up and followed on this lead.
03:57:32.560And what they're doing is they're analyzing DNA, right, and they've been able, they think that Post was the killer of this woman right here, Sherry Jo Bates.
03:57:43.900Okay, and the reason why, you guys remember, the reason why they think he killed her is because, number one, the time piece, right, this right here, the Timex watch, right, that they found at the scene had, where is it?
03:58:12.360And at the time, Post was a house painter.
03:58:15.180Also, Post was in the military, and he had a pair, he also wore a size 10 and a half, similar to your guy, Lee Allen.
03:58:26.320Then, the other reason, too, why they think it could have been him is because he had dark brown hair, similar to what they found in Sherry Bates' hand.
03:58:41.620Remember, you guys, she had four hair follicles in her hand at the time.
03:58:48.280And the other thing as well, there was another piece.
03:58:50.720I think they were testing it for DNA, and they've been able to link him to the other Zodiac killings as well with the footprints.
03:58:56.700So, apparently there's a documentary coming out on this where they're going to conclusively prove that Post was, in fact, the Zodiac killer.
03:59:07.040But we don't, and also he has the scars, right, the scars that they used on the, in the 1969 Paul Stein killing with the scars on the head.
03:59:18.220He also has those scars as well, right?
03:59:21.060And he had brown hair when he was younger.
03:59:37.040Cobra said that the evidentiary gold mine is now being examined by three forensic labs.
03:59:40.360He believes that modern techniques like identifying fingerprints on shell casings may match official police evidence and convince skeptical detectives that Post is their man.
03:59:47.480So, before Post died, he gave away a bunch of, um, sorry guys, here it is right here.
03:59:53.520He gave away a bunch of ammunition, and they had that ammunition, and they're going to scan it and see if it was the same ammunition.
03:59:59.560All right, and I think some of it actually did match one of the crime scenes, okay?
04:00:04.900And then FBI officials in San Francisco say they're still investigating the Zodiac killer has been linked to five seemingly random brutal murders in 1968 and in 1969 in San Francisco Bay Area.
04:00:37.160Okay, according to the investigator, a few years before his death, Post quietly began giving away his weapon, pistol parts, gunpowder, bullets, and shell casings more than a thousand, involving 25 different calibers to favorite locals.
04:00:47.780Okay, and then that's how they're able to get this stuff.
04:00:52.040Okay, so the Zodiac boasted that he had more than 30 murders, and I remember, and I think in his last one, can you pull up the last Zodiac one?
04:01:03.040I think it was in 1937, or excuse me, it was 1974, his last letter, and we'll show it to them.
04:01:09.640And I think he says, uh, the infamous SFPD zero, Zodiac killer 37.
04:01:15.500And then one of them is 51 years to crack.
04:01:22.360Colstein believes that Post's Zodiac because of a physical similarity to a 1916 police sketch of the killer, both featuring forehead scars and anagrams sent to the San Francisco Chronicle that purportedly revealed Post's name.
04:01:37.180So Post's name is in the, is in the, uh, codes.
04:01:40.860Okay, Smith also said that when Avery asked Post, are you the Zodiac, the man came at him with a five-pound hammer.
04:01:50.660Smith said that Post's posse always called him, uh, only the old man, another source, told the Post that Post was a good house painter who painted Clint Eastwood's mother's home in the 1970s.