Fed Explains Chicago Ripper Crew
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1 hour and 43 minutes
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177.00389
Summary
On this episode of FedReacts, we cover the case of the Chicago Ripper Crew. This is a case that has been on our bucket list for a while now, and we finally got to cover it!
Transcript
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And, yeah, we got the chat showing on the side.
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And, yeah, so for us to be able to run a production at this level, we need some people behind the scenes that know what they're doing.
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And the next one is just that we're kind of having bills here because this is our first test run.
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We're running, you know, Streamlabs and all the more advanced software on an episode of FedReacts.
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Today's episode, guys, we're going to be covering the Chicago RIP Crew and is it RIP Crew?
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You guys have been requesting this one for quite a bit.
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You guys requested this one and the SPM, South Park Mexican.
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We were going to do SPM, but then I realized, like, dude, all the videos for this suck.
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And this case is a lot more interesting, to be honest with y'all.
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But right now, I think the Chicago RIP Crew is a lot better.
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Some of you guys might be new to FedReacts or not seeing it like this.
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As you guys know, FedReacts is a channel underneath the motherboard of Fresh and Fit.
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But, yeah, I think we had a couple of Rumble rants come through.
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And don't worry, we'll get the Rumble chat up there as well.
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It's just that y'all be wilding out over there and we're still on YouTube.
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So we're going to have to put the Rumble chat up once we're on Rumble only.
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She found this documentary for you guys that's going to cover the Chicago Ripper crew.
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But, Moe, Bill, do y'all want to say anything to the people before we get into this one?
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I hope you guys are ready because this one is going to be absolutely wild.
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Well, then I can also say, well, you guys can follow me at Big Moe underscore B-I-T-W.
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Don't forget the memo to believe in Big Moe because that's a M-O.
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Moe, you might want to, like, move the camera a little bit to the left.
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Oh, yeah, because the screen is showing on the side.
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You guys can follow me on Instagram at jbills, J-B-I-L-Z.
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Obviously, he's the one running the ones and twos because you guys know this is pretty
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complicated to run, you know, Streamlabs at a high level with all the stuff going on,
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And, you know, we wanted to be real interactive with you guys, which is why we got the chat running
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on one side, which has normally if we were ahead on, like, Twitch, Twitter,
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And if you guys are watching this on YouTube, please do me a favor.
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We appreciate it because you guys know we're demonetized on YouTube, which kind of sucks.
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Andrew, do you have anything you want to tell the people before we get into this?
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Any announcements you have before we get into it?
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Even though I promised myself not to be on this table ever again.
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But, yeah, we're going to cover Chicago Ripper Crew.
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What happened with the South Park Mexican case is that the documentaries that we found about that case are really trash, are really bad.
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So we're going to have to do, like, a little bit more of research to cover that case.
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Because that's the one that, that's the case that won the poll last week.
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Today we're going to do Chicago Ripper Crew, who was, like, the other one that was highly requested.
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You guys wanted, these were the top two that you guys pretty much wanted.
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I'm trying to learn how to make videos and, like, clips and reels and stuff.
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So, I'll be posting reels every day and trying my best to post every day.
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So, let's go ahead and get, oh, and then we did an episode, I forgot to mention.
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Guys, we were in Washington, D.C. area for a bit.
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We did one debate with Jason Howerton on, you know, dating, you know, versus being monogamous.
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And then we talked about, and then we went ahead and did an episode on Tim Kass IRL.
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And then the podcast was on Tim Kass IRL where we talked about, you know, the Trump case a lot.
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We talked a little bit about intersexual dynamics.
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You know, it's always a good time hanging out up there in Maryland with Tim.
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So, you know, we've been there quite a few times out there in the middle of nowhere where he films it.
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He's going to be here in Miami doing an event with PBD.
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So, we'll make sure to, you know, snatch him up and do a podcast with him.
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We'll have our new studio by then, which we're actually going to go to the new studio right after this pod.
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And, you know, pretty much get some new equipment, some new stuff for y'all.
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You guys are really going to enjoy the new studio.
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You know, it's going to still keep the Miami vibe, the Vice City vibe.
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So, we got to, let's hit the Wikipedia first, gentlemen.
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And then, are there any chats that we need to read right now?
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The Ripper Crew, or the Chicago Rippers, was an organized group of serial killers, cannibals,
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The group composed of Robin Gecht and three associates, Edward Spritzer, and three brothers,
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They were suspected in the disappearance of 17 women in Illinois in 1981 and 1982, as
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well as the unrelated fatal shooting of a man in a random drive-by shooting.
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According to one of the detectives who investigated the case, Gecht made Manson look like a Boy
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Not as famous as some other serial killers, but these dudes were going crazy in the early
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And as you guys know, we've talked about this on this podcast quite a bit, that the
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heyday of serial killers pretty much were from the 1960s up until, I would say, the early
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These guys obviously operated in that golden era for serial killers.
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I wish it was a little bit better, but it's good enough, and you guys will be able to see
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So, yeah, I guess without further ado, let's play it from the rip.
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Somebody said, they look like if the Beatles never made it.
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And, guys, again, if you want to donate to the show, do me a favor.
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Click the link, the Streamlabs link on the side, and or click the link at the top of the
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You could donate, and it'll be shown right in the middle of the screen, and your message
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And, you know, it supports us more, because YouTube used to take a big cut.
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So, now, you know, it goes directly to the creator, man.
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And, as you guys know, we take that money and invest it right back into the studio, into
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the team, into the squad, and continue to pump out this concept for y'all, man.
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So, whether you want to rumble rant or support that way, either or helps.
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I do want to say that a lot of, like, people compare this group to Charles Manson.
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And, we're going to see why later, but there's a little bit of, like, cold, satanic stuff
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I would say these guys are closer to Son of Sam.
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Because these guys will do, like, rituals and stuff.
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Yeah, I would consider them closer to Son of Sam.
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But, hey, you guys will see here, and we'll get to it.
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And, the quality is like this, because we couldn't find anything better.
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This documentary is on Tubi, but it's not available right now.
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So, if it comes in and we're, like, screen sharing, it's fine.
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We'll make sure that it gets shown on chat, and we'll bring it up for y'all.
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Chicago's gritty streets lie in sharp contrast to its suburban neighbors.
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But these places will forever be linked by a series of crimes so shocking, they are considered
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to be among the most brutal in the history of the Midwest.
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Some of these crime scenes were really, truly horrific, even for seasoned police officers.
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They were evil crimes made even more frightening by the range of victims.
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Every woman in the Chicagoland area was at risk because it wouldn't matter who you were, what you look like.
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At 11.20 a.m., law enforcement respond to a call about a bad smell at a motel 25 miles outside the city.
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The manager thought it probably had been a deer maybe hit by a truck.
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Instead, detectives find an unrecognizable body face down in the weeds.
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Her hands are bound behind her back with inexpensive nickel-plated handcuffs.
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Peter Siegman, the deputy coroner, and his boss arrive at the site to examine the body.
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You recognized right away that she'd been there for quite some time to be in the condition that she was.
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I understand that there was a little bit of echo or something like that.
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We literally just fixed the shout-out to the guys in the back.
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Again, this is the importance of having a team.
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They went ahead and lowered the monitoring on our headphones, and they also made sure to get rid of the echo.
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We're monitoring both the Rumble and the YouTube chat.
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So go ahead and give us ones to make sure everything is good.
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Let's go back to the stream and watch both, and let's keep going.
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I, too, was monitoring the video with you guys, so I heard it, too.
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They were saying L on you for the sound because it was too loud for me.
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You know, this is the part where you make your move.
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They'll just be watching this show with their chick all the time, bro.
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Chicago's gritty streets lie in sharp contrast to its suburban neighbors.
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But these places will forever be linked by a series of crimes so shocking,
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they are considered to be among the most brutal in the history of the Midwest.
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Some of these crime scenes were really, truly horrific,
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They were evil crimes made even more frightening by the range of victims.
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Every woman in the Chicagoland area was at risk
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because it wouldn't matter who you were, what you look like.
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What your age was, what your race was, you were all at risk.
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At 11.20 a.m., law enforcement respond to a call about a bad smell
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The manager thought it probably had been a deer, maybe hit by a truck.
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Instead, detectives find an unrecognizable body face down in the weeds.
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Her hands are bound behind her back with inexpensive nickel-plated handcuffs.
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Peter Siegman, the deputy coroner, and his boss arrive at the site to examine the body.
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And guys, the smell of a decomposing body, right?
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Once you smell it one time, you'll never forget it, man.
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Think of, like, rotten meat with rotten milk, rotten eggs, all combined in one.
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And then the fact that it was decomposing with animals on it, it makes it even worse.
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Anyone that works in law enforcement or works in anything to do with maybe the coroner's office
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or maybe at a funeral home or anything like that or in the medical field,
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you're going to know that smell and you just can't, yeah.
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And then also, do y'all want us to put subtitles in the video for y'all?
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Let me know in the chat if you guys want subtitles.
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I know some of y'all like them, some of y'all don't.
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Right away that she'd been there for quite some time to be in the condition that she was.
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Through dental records and fingerprints, the body is identified as 26-year-old Linda Sutton.
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The autopsy reveals that she was killed more recently than police initially thought.
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And the reason why, guys, they thought that it was so bad is because you got to remember also that it was around May, if I'm not mistaken.
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So, it's going to accelerate the decomposition process and make the smell even worse.
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So, even though they thought that she had been dead longer, she actually wasn't dead that long.
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It was just that the warm weather hastened the process of decomposition.
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So, that tells you what you need to know as far as the wildlife being involved.
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Out in the end that she'd been dead for about three days when she was actually found.
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It was determined by the pathologist that the path of entry in this particular case was through stab wounds in the body, the upper torso.
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We would have no clue what removing a breast would mean.
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You don't think about people actually intentionally removing someone's breast.
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So, you already know, you know, the police show up on the scene.
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The bugs have entered in through the open wound.
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But, you know, now you know that you're dealing with a strange individual here.
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But then to see that they cut off the breast is like, okay, this is weird.
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So, we're going to start to see a trend here, guys.
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You're going to see this when we cover these serial killer cases.
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Because these guys typically have a way and a methodology of how they conduct their criminal activity.
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I do want to say that the reason that, yeah, the reason why she was missing a breast, well, that's why she was decomposing that fast.
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Because the animals were, like, eating her inside out.
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And we apologize for the graphic stuff and the larves and stuff.
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Because we were also eating when we saw this documentary.
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And I know it was pretty disgusting because I see a lot of people complaining in the chat.
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So, you know, like I said before, this documentary is a bit graphic.
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So, you know, you probably might want to finish up your meal if you're eating or don't eat at all.
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Psychology is familiar with this kind of body mutilation.
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There are three reasons why someone might remove a body part.
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One is a paraphilia, which is a deviant sexual practice to somebody who gets aroused by unusual objects or activities.
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The other can be symbolic in that they're removing a body part that's representative of a female, for example,
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in order to then do something with it that will empower them.
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And the third one would be to, as a memento or a souvenir from the murder.
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Guys, this case is predominant because of the paraphilia that the main guy had.
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And paraphilia, I want to define it for you guys.
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Paraphilia is the condition characterized by abnormal sexual desires, typically involving extreme or dangerous activities.
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The difference between paraphilia and a fetish, and I'm explaining this because I remember this came out on an exam for me in the university and I failed.
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The difference between this and a fetish is that the person...
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The person, in order to have a paraphilia, has to be extremely aroused.
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So, I mean, you can have a fetish and not be aroused, but to have a paraphilia, you have to be aroused by the activity that you're doing.
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It can be feet, it can be, in this case, this guy, cutting out breasts out of people.
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So, that's why paraphilia is way stronger and it goes to the abnormal side of a condition.
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A fetish is considered, like, normal, per se, like, it goes, like, you know, in between, but...
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So, for example, some of you weirdos out there like feet.
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That would be considered normal, even though I don't think so.
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But paraphilia would be a sexual fetish that is not normal, which would be maybe cutting off a boob or doing something else that is nefarious or dangerous to an individual.
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It says in here, typically involving extreme or dangerous activities.
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And, guys, we will pause to read Super Chats and Rumble Rants here in a bit.
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But to find one in a field, handcuffed, with her breasts removed, and had been left lying there, you know, in this vacant field behind a motel, that's very unusual.
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Given that prostitutes tend to hide money in their socks, do page detectives think that Sutton may have been a city working girl?
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If you guys study serial killers at all, you guys already know that, unfortunately, prostitutes are a very common victim class for these serial killers.
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And, you know, unless you're like Ted Bundy and you're crazy and just want to go after college girls that actually have families.
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But a lot of serial killers go after prostitutes.
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Because they're in a profession that's dangerous.
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They're dealing with different men every single day.
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They're in different locations every single day.
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A lot of the times, they might not have a close family unit or people that are going to go looking for them.
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If they do end up missing a lot of the times, you know, no one's going to care.
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And if they do find the body, right, it's going to be very difficult to find a next of kin that will be able to identify them.
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A lot of the times, they have to identify them off of dental records, assuming the individual even went to the dentist in the first place.
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You guys should watch our episode on Samuel Little.
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Samuel Little, I think his kill count was like 93 or something like that.
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Most of them, I think all of them were prostitutes.
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So, and he was able to do that and be able to pray on these prostitutes for so long was because a lot of them were minorities.
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And he was able to go ahead and strangle these women.
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He never killed them with stabbing them or killing them.
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So, the only way he was able to get away recklessly doing that for such a period of time, and he did this for decades, is because he picked on a class of victim that no one really cared about or would file as missing or would care to go look for.
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Yeah, also the Green River Killer and Jack the Ripper, remember?
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People don't tend to look for them because usually they don't have any families or people that care about them.
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And not only that, the dark side, I'll tell you guys as well, from the police department side, if a prostitute goes missing, the police department is not going to put and exert as much effort to finding them.
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Because a lot of the times they're in and out of their jurisdiction, you know?
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So, why are they going to go ahead and spend a bunch of time and money and resources looking for someone that's kind of just passing by and isn't necessarily a resident of the area?
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They might be, you know, in one state another day and another state the next day.
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So, they're not necessarily a class of people that even the police want to spend a lot of time looking for and tying up resources.
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And you guys got to remember, a lot of these police departments, especially in these smaller towns, they don't have money like that.
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They're not going to be as sophisticated as a major city.
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So, that's a big reason why these guys were able to get away with attacking this group of people.
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And then also, I want to let you guys know, back in the 70s, 80s, 90s, DNA wasn't a thing, okay?
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So, it was very difficult to go and find a missing person.
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And then on top of that, to compound to it, there wasn't a refined central database like the NCIC like we have nowadays.
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Back in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, et cetera, it wasn't until really the 90s and early 2000s, law enforcement didn't really get together and create centralized databases until later on.
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It was actually Ted Bundy that was a big impetus for law enforcement in different states to get together and figure out, okay, we need to actually work together and have one centralized database because we might have a guy that we're looking for here in Utah, but the next thing you know, he's killing people in Colorado.
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He killed women in like seven different states.
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So, this was all prior, right, 70s, 80s, et cetera, which is why serial killers went so crazy.
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This was all prior to refined databases, national databases, DNA, law enforcement being more sophisticated, working with each other, technology.
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Okay, so, you know, you add all these issues and then on top of that, the fact that the demographic of person that they're attacking is a class that people don't really care about looking for because of everything I listed before, them being vagrants, them being state to state, moving around.
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Unfortunately, they're looking at it like it's a waste of resources.
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So, that's a big reason why so many of these serial killers were able to kill prostitutes and get away with it for so long.
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But, they fucked up in this case because the heinous way in which they killed this woman, this woman, excuse me, and the heinous way they did it, and then you're going to see a pattern coming here, obviously put the police on their radar.
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And we got a whole serial killer playlist for you guys, by the way, if you guys are more interested in this type of thing.
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Detectives mentioned that they found this young woman with the money in her sock, and the Chicago detective said, that does sound like one of ours.
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The two men talked for a bit about, you know, where they had found the body, what condition it was in, or was there any other evidence.
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But there really was nothing at that time to connect this body that had been found out in the suburbs with a potentially Chicago involvement in the case.
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Murders involving prostitutes are difficult to solve.
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Their dangerous lifestyle constantly puts them in harm's way.
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They tried to determine everything about who this lady was, where she could have been, who she may have met.
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You know, that investigation was ongoing, but it didn't turn up any solid leads at all.
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Shortly after 9 a.m., law enforcement in another Chicago suburb receive a call that 21-year-old Lorraine Borowski, also known as Lori, has been abducted in front of the real estate office where she works.
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They found it unusual that the door was still locked.
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Now, you guys are going to see a stark difference in the effort, right, mounted to find this lady versus, you know, the first one, right?
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And, you know, people can make the argument that it has to do with race.
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I would argue more it's along the side of class, right?
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So racism was a bit more pronounced back then than it would be nowadays.
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But, yeah, now you're dealing with one where a lady of the night versus a young professional who is a real estate agent.
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And then one of the employees there noticed that there were keys and a few cosmetic items lying on the ground in the parking lot outside of the real estate office and shoes.
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It looked like she was literally taken off the street.
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We couldn't figure how she would be gone like that.
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Lori's family desperately tries to find her, passing out flyers and talking to everyone.
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And that's worse, guys, because the fact that they can't, you know, the house is immaculate and no one was there.
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In a situation like this where you have a missing person, you want as much clues as possible.
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And, you know, if they went to the house and it was disheveled and there was some evidence that someone else might have been there, it would possibly potentially lead to a motive and or help them track down who the kidnapper was.
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So she got stolen out in the public, out in the street.
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So it's like, oh, man, this is going to be a lot harder.
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So missing cases like this, guys, pre-cell phone era, pre-technology, pre-location data is a nightmare for the police, man, especially a small police department like Elmhurst, right?
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So, you know, this is a different time, my friends.
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The police were not as sophisticated as they are nowadays back then, 40 years ago.
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But also, you know, you see these guys are very, like, careless.
00:32:31.000
Like, they are not paying, like, they're not taking care of their tracks.
00:32:35.840
They're being, like, very, like, reckless with the killings.
00:32:38.460
It's like they are not really paying attention that they're being, you know, tracked or anything.
00:32:48.420
You guys should watch the BTK episode that we did.
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This dude was out here at the crime scene busting nuts and shit.
00:32:56.000
Like, he was out here busting nuts at crime scenes thinking, like, oh, no one's going to get me.
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So, yeah, it's funny because literally, like, 30 years later, plus, 30 years later, they get the DNA, right?
00:33:13.960
But it's really fascinating how they caught him.
00:33:15.780
One that ended up happening was his daughter was in college.
00:33:18.580
They got her DNA because I think she had went to go get, like, an STI test or something like that at the college, University of Kansas.
00:33:30.820
And it was because of a crime scene from, like, 1974 where they had his DNA.
00:33:35.880
And at the time, they didn't have the capability of testing it, but they tested it, and they were able to link him.
00:33:39.800
The same thing happened with the Golden State Killer.
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Yeah, the Golden State Killer also was busting nuts at crime scenes.
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Yeah, it was, I think it was for his daughter, I think it was.
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Can we pull up the channel real quick, screen share real quick?
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Just because I want y'all to really watch this stuff, man.
00:34:14.820
And all the ninjas over at Rumble, okay, which we got about 1,000 y'all watching on YouTube.
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And then like another 900 or so y'all watching on Rumble.
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We're going to switch over here to Rumble here probably in a little bit.
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But we're going to pull up the channel for y'all real fast.
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Because I know some of you are like, what the hell are you talking about, Myron?
00:34:40.420
We had serial killers literally busting nuts at crime scenes and they're getting caught later on, guys.
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And then we got infamous serial killers, right?
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And then you see here all the different serial killers.
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And then we got the Long Island Killer, Alien Wuornos.
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And then hit that arrow on the right-hand side, Bills.
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I got BTK, Samuel Little, Toy Box Killer, Daniel Prince, Green River Killer, Ed Gein,
00:35:31.880
AKA, you know, the ghoul, that's the guy that they based the movie, Texas Chainsaw Massacre
00:35:39.260
So, and then if you hit the infamous serial killer playlist, click it up the top.
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They still haven't caught him to this day, guys.
00:35:56.180
To this day, they have not caught the Zodiac Killer.
00:35:59.860
I think he died in 2018 or 2020, something like that.
00:36:08.820
And then they got, I got the Railroad Killer, obviously the Night Stalker, Richard Ramirez.
00:36:20.020
He buried all the bodies under his house like a dummy.
00:36:22.980
And then we got Jeffrey Dahmer, of course, right?
00:36:29.860
The most expensive serial killer case the FBI has ever done.
00:36:34.880
Bro, we got so much content on this channel, man.
00:36:37.060
Like, yo, this is by far the best true crime channel on YouTube.
00:36:42.800
We're not out here putting makeup on and talking about Jeffrey Dahmer.
00:36:46.100
We're actually investigating and going over all the cases, okay?
00:36:49.680
So, go ahead and subscribe to the channel if you haven't already.
00:36:58.340
Mo, I saw you make a funny face when I talked about this dude getting caught on 23andMe.
00:37:09.460
And by the way, just want to say to the guys on Rumble, you guys, if you are subscribed on Rumble,
00:37:15.080
we have extra emotes just for this channel, FedReacts, and you guys can notice some of the seals and badges are a little extra special.
00:37:31.560
We got a bunch of emotes that Mo made for you guys, and it'll help us out significantly because at the end of the day, guys,
00:37:39.140
You know, these other platforms, not even kick, none of them support free speech like Rumble does, man.
00:37:43.840
So if you guys want to support, please subscribe on Rumble.
00:37:47.500
If you guys are watching the show live right now, just go ahead and click that subscribe button.
00:37:51.200
And it's only five bucks, man, and it's lit, bro.
00:37:54.080
And you get the emotes and stuff, and it'll support.
00:38:00.300
You know, we're making content for y'all over here.
00:38:06.500
We're making fun of serial killers, busting nuts at crime scenes.
00:38:12.820
I actually made some special ones myself from some of the badges and seals from certain
00:38:26.160
It's like the funny little emblems that they put next to their stuff when they're watching.
00:38:47.320
Because when your child's missing, you're looking.
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Detective Commander John Milner is a certified investigative hypnotist.
00:39:11.140
He often puts potential witnesses under in hope of extracting details they may have forgotten.
00:39:17.720
He decides to hypnotize several people who were in the area at the time of Lori's disappearance.
00:39:25.760
One recalls seeing an orange or red van at the mall parking lot.
00:39:32.720
There's not a lot of times where hypnotism is used in investigations, but when it is, it does help sometimes.
00:39:42.260
There are some instances where it could help, and you guys can see here that one of the witnesses was able to remember a red van.
00:39:52.780
Do you see the difference with this victim with the first one?
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The mom is putting all, like, posters everywhere in the city.
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And the first victim just got in, like, the next three days, like, the same week.
00:40:11.480
They put pressure on the police, too, to keep looking.
00:40:15.840
Again, that's why Ladies of the Night, a lot of the times, their attackers aren't found.
00:40:20.640
The Long Island killer, you guys saw that we did an episode on him.
00:40:24.560
He almost exclusively killed Ladies of the Night, and they were of different races, mostly Caucasian, actually.
00:40:29.220
But, nah, they didn't put that much pressure on it, and they were able to go ahead and he got evaded capture for, like, 20 years.
00:40:50.260
Something that we started to put out to other agencies, any potential abduction attempts with a red or orange van, we did everything we could.
00:41:09.060
Elmhurst did a really wide and thorough, in-depth investigation, but finally the case just began to dry up.
00:41:23.060
Over the next four months, several other women are found dead in Chicago and the surrounding suburbs.
00:41:33.980
In each instance, their valuables are left behind, but their bodies are violated in cruel and ritualistic ways.
00:41:43.800
So we're going to give you guys a little bit of insight as to some of the other victims that were—
00:41:46.560
Because this documentary doesn't cover all of them, but we've got like one or two that I think were interesting that we kind of want to show you that came from another documentary.
00:41:56.040
Can you play the video on YouTube that I sent you guys?
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This is an Asian lady who was actually a fell victim, and she was not a lady of the night.
00:42:05.340
So it kind of goes to show that these attackers were attackers of opportunity, and not necessarily looking just for ladies of the night,
00:42:14.060
but rather they were looking for ladies at night.
00:42:16.760
I wonder if this case hit the media back then in the 80s.
00:42:22.640
Because you will later on see girls not walking alone at night or taking care of themselves, being alone and stuff.
00:42:30.620
All right, so let's go ahead and run this clip real quick from the other documentary.
00:42:33.860
Because remember, guys, so it said, you know, many women were caught, you know, or, sorry, bodies were found throughout the Chicago metropolitan area.
00:42:42.200
So this is one of them that they didn't mention in the last documentary we were in.
00:43:01.080
She worked in a company somewhere in DuPage County where they made Mars Lights, you know, for squads.
00:43:10.460
She did that eight hours a day and then went to her family's restaurant and worked there.
00:43:18.740
On the night of her disappearance, as she is coming home from work with her brother Kent,
00:43:41.580
But I guess they must have been really pissed off, man.
00:43:43.500
I wonder what they were arguing about that he felt the need to kick his sister out at 1.30 in the morning in the middle of nowhere.
00:44:06.780
She walked southbound on Barrington Road from Schaumburg Road because it was the only way she knew how to get home.
00:44:16.720
The Cook County Police Department is tasked with the investigation into the young Chinese woman's disappearance.
00:44:25.380
On September 30th, Shwimak's body is discovered on a construction site in South Barrington, an upscale Chicago suburb in Cook County.
00:44:34.980
She was as close as I am to you, to an anthill.
00:44:48.100
Yeah, ants literally tear through human flesh and just eat everything.
00:44:54.060
So that sucks because obviously that's going to destroy the evidence.
00:44:59.320
Birds, ants, birds, anything that can be in a wood.
00:45:03.340
Yeah, but the ants definitely got the most of that.
00:45:06.860
And then you guys are going to see the condition of her body.
00:45:19.200
But again, the clothes were on and this beautiful necklace was on it.
00:45:34.740
So it would seem that somebody punched her and her head went back and shattered.
00:45:48.100
So obviously they literally just like either punched her or hit her with some kind of object,
00:45:52.940
knocked their teeth out, and the back of her head was crushed, guys.
00:45:57.780
So obviously these are some merciless, sick individuals, man, to do something like that.
00:46:09.680
Detective Troka from the Sheriff's Office of Cook County is charged with identifying the victim.
00:46:19.540
We processed the scene, and at that moment, I was trying to identify her.
00:46:31.580
The discovery of Schwemack's body convinces the various Chicago area police departments
00:46:37.540
that they're dealing with a serial killer, or worse, with a group of serial killers.
00:46:43.120
Well, as soon as we had two or three victims, we could determine that this was the work of the same person or persons.
00:46:53.340
Now, once you're able to establish that you got a pattern and you got either one or multiple serial killers,
00:47:00.340
Because that is going to absolutely inspire all the police departments in the local area to work together
00:47:06.700
and figure out who these guys are because nothing hurts, right?
00:47:11.320
A city, a mayor's campaign, the local population or spikes fear more than saying,
00:47:17.660
yo, there's a serial killer on the loose, okay?
00:47:20.160
If you look at someone like the Night Stalker, you know, Richard Ramirez,
00:47:24.220
and or the Golden State Killer, who actually was called the original, fun fact,
00:47:27.240
he was called the original Night Stalker, by the way.
00:47:29.180
He was the Night Stalker before Richard Ramirez.
00:47:32.680
Gun sales went up when all these guys were running rampant through South California
00:47:39.520
So nothing drives public fear more than the announcement of a serial killer.
00:47:45.500
So at that point, law enforcement has to do something, okay?
00:47:54.700
Because the mayor's going to tell them, yo, what are you guys doing?
00:47:56.660
He's going to put a bunch of pressure on the police chief or the commissioner,
00:48:01.380
and they're all going to work together and figure out who these guys are,
00:48:04.260
especially when they're killing females in a heinous way that these guys are doing, right?
00:48:07.960
We're talking about breasts being cut off, wires being found at crime scenes, yeah,
00:48:12.160
and then multiple people being killed in violent, heinous manners.
00:48:20.800
This body of Chu Mak, this Chinese lady, she was all decomposed because she was found four months later
00:48:40.420
The investigators review the various case files.
00:48:50.980
All right, now let's go back to the other documentary.
00:48:54.120
So that's one of the victims that they're talking about from the main documentary that we're talking about
00:49:02.800
Let's hit some of these chats real fast because I think we're midway.
00:49:05.420
We're going to play the other documentary, the first one?
00:49:12.100
Marin, having built multiple channels with a huge following, do you have any advice to grow on YouTube?
00:49:17.320
You just got to make sure that you're unique, interesting, try to do something that's innovative,
00:49:23.080
that's different from what everyone else is doing, and be a subject matter expert in what you talk about.
00:49:31.320
One thing about us, guys, you guys can see here, people might say,
00:49:36.020
But the reality is we do our show live, and you guys ask questions real time, and we answer the questions.
00:49:40.580
And if we don't know something, we bring on experts that are.
00:49:43.100
We don't know everything, but we know quite a bit.
00:49:46.040
So, you know, we have it live, and you really can't lie when you're live.
00:49:50.240
So, you know, for all the people that say that we're scammers and BSers, I mean, okay, whatever.
00:49:56.660
Be a subject matter expert in what you talk about.
00:50:03.720
Nathan goes, Mo Stein, what percentage interest rate did you give the Ripper crew?
00:50:38.600
If you guys, I literally donated a bunch of money on there.
00:50:42.820
I bought a bunch of tickets, and you guys can go ahead and redeem it and go watch it.
00:50:50.760
RandomGuy64 goes, we can actually see Fresh Now.
00:50:58.180
RandomGuy64 goes, Angie's English is better than Fresh.
00:51:02.000
Here's more money to get Fresh New Speech Therapist.
00:51:05.800
RecklessJosh goes, hey, do you mind giving an update on your YouTube animation channel?
00:51:31.660
I'm going to hell, but that first victim looked like one half of Apple and Peach.
00:51:38.600
Valexia goes, I subscribed before, but somehow it went away, but subbed again.
00:51:42.980
Also, on London Podcast, she's been in front, the front line supporting you guys, making
00:51:49.860
Also, on London Podcast, she's been in front line.
00:51:57.420
And then, but yeah, guys, we'll bring David Omari back, but I got that held right now
00:52:02.500
because, as you guys know, we're demonetized, so I got that whole held thing, so I don't
00:52:06.880
We can't make other channels and stuff like that right now.
00:52:11.540
Once we're monetized again, when we're good with YouTube, then we can definitely talk about
00:52:17.860
You have to watch the Stephen Avery case on Netflix.
00:52:21.140
He's in jail today for a crime he did not commit.
00:52:30.480
Oh, the rest of the Rumble chants aren't friendly?
00:52:32.720
And then let's go ahead and hit the Streamlabs chats.
00:52:52.940
And then we got the little feed on the side that's showing people subscribing.
00:53:20.420
Let's finish the documentary at least on YouTube.
00:53:22.520
And then we'll give our reactions and everything else like that.
00:53:39.900
But in every case, every single one of them, their breasts had been slashed.
00:53:44.860
And this was no sort of surgical-type procedure.
00:53:48.320
And in most of the cases, it was not post-mortem.
00:53:57.740
If you see a lot of brutality that's anti-mortem, they want that person to suffer.
00:54:03.460
They want to humiliate that victim before they actually kill them.
00:54:10.940
They want that person to understand psychologically that they're going to get battered and bludgeoned
00:54:17.420
There's going to be a lot of pain before they're murdered.
00:54:20.280
This is a person who's usually angry, probably has been humiliated somewhere along their life.
00:54:29.840
And the other thing, too, I want you guys to understand with the serial killers that do this,
00:54:33.780
a lot of them get sexual satisfaction from, especially with the Stranglers,
00:54:39.440
like a Ted Bundy, the Samuel Little, John Wayne Gacy, a lot of these guys.
00:54:51.800
A lot of people are just copying the same thing and trying to do what we do,
00:54:56.040
You want to kind of make your own lane and be unique for something.
00:55:00.120
Benny, a shout out to you, though, for the donation.
00:55:02.380
So anyway, yeah, like I was saying with these serial killers,
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a lot of the times what they do is they want to be able to feel like God, okay?
00:55:07.940
They want to be able to strangle the person right before they die.
00:55:12.020
They kind of stop, loosen it up a bit, and then the person comes back to life.
00:55:16.140
Ted Bundy was famous for doing this with his victim.
00:55:17.840
A couple of women actually survived his attacks and were able to remember this about him,
00:55:24.360
is that he would strangle them, and then as they were dying, he would let them let go
00:55:31.840
And, like, he enjoyed seeing the terror and playing God.
00:55:37.820
A lot of these serial killers like to strangle their victims and do it that way so that they can feel as if they're God,
00:55:44.840
It's a very sick thing, but they enjoy it, right?
00:55:48.200
These guys, in this case, like cutting off their breasts.
00:55:59.780
So, it's an expression that means the brief loss or awakening of consciousness.
00:56:05.160
That what Martin is describing, that's the name of it.
00:56:08.640
It's basically like getting somebody unconscious for, like, a brief period of time.
00:56:22.420
And they get a lot of satisfaction from it, the weirdos.
00:56:26.740
So, that's the big thing about these serial killers, man.
00:56:29.000
A lot of times they commit these crimes and they get sexual satisfaction from it.
00:56:38.700
And thank you guys so much for donating to the show.
00:56:42.080
And don't worry, we're going to read the Rumble Rants and everything else like that.
00:56:48.740
The bridges and in the forest preserves that dock the outskirts of the city.
00:56:54.580
But with robbery clearly not the goal, the motive remains a mystery.
00:57:02.660
There was, as yet, no provable, followable connection between these various suburban crimes and the actual city of Chicago.
00:57:10.260
After five months, Lori Borowski's disappearance is still unsolved.
00:57:18.300
It's months out and we have this person who's gone and we're not getting anywhere.
00:57:37.140
Close to a year and a half after Linda Sutton's mutilated body was found in a patch of weeds in Villa Park.
00:57:43.720
Investigators in DuPage County receive a call from Chicago PD.
00:57:50.580
Could this be the break investigators have been waiting for?
00:57:54.700
Or are the murders and mutilations in Chicago and its suburbs about to get even worse?
00:58:01.260
It has been 16 months since Linda Sutton's body was found in Villa Park.
00:58:16.500
A Chicago prostitute is left for dead in an alley.
00:58:20.760
Her vicious wounds are similar to those of Sutton's.
00:58:23.900
She was in really very serious condition, critical condition, when the police went to talk to her.
00:58:34.860
Somehow she musters the strength to communicate with police.
00:58:42.180
You have an eyewitness that survived an attack, guys.
00:58:44.560
You're going to do everything in your power to try to get that witness to recollect their memory so you can identify a suspect.
00:58:51.100
Because at this point, keep in mind, guys, they have a string of murders, right?
00:58:55.280
Remember, they said that there were 17 murders from 1981 to 1982.
00:58:59.360
That means that there were, you know, bodies racking up.
00:59:02.800
And they don't necessarily have someone alive that can describe these individuals.
00:59:14.140
But you need to go ahead and figure out who these individuals are ASAP.
00:59:18.400
So, there is a victim that they didn't mention in this documentary, but I think they did mention in the other one.
00:59:25.060
After the Chinese girl got alive, there was another girl named Angel Jork that they kidnapped in their van.
00:59:41.900
It was literally about to play right when we stopped it.
00:59:49.420
This one, though, is the more important one, but there was another witness as well.
00:59:52.340
And I know we're ping-ponging between the two here for y'all, but that way you guys kind of get more insight as to what's really going on here.
00:59:59.160
And by the way, yo, I noticed that there's 1,000 of you guys watching us on YouTube right now.
01:00:05.180
Let's get to 1,000 likes so we can have 100% engagement on YouTube.
01:00:09.220
We're doing this for free for y'all on YouTube pretty much at this point.
01:00:11.480
So, the only thing I ask is, like the video, subscribe to the channel on YouTube so that the channel can grow and people can find it.
01:00:17.620
So, the menu that you want to go to, it's the 14.
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Oh, you can just play it from where it was at right before.
01:00:26.000
Yeah, it was already ready to go because I remember that this was the woman that they're referring to.
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Preceding year, Holly Clemens, a.k.a. Angel York, a prostitute from the Red Light District, had told about boarding a van driven by a prospective John.
01:00:43.720
He picked her up when she was running away from the police when they were sweeping the area for prosecutes, got in his van, and then found herself in much more trouble than she was trying to escape.
01:00:55.680
He forces her aboard his van and orders her to take off her clothes.
01:01:01.660
He wound up having her cut a hole in the side of her breast, which he then enlarged with his finger and the knife because it wasn't large enough to encompass his penis.
01:01:19.360
Like, this sick bastard cut the boob off and had sexual intercourse with the hole.
01:01:37.020
The individuals like this should be, like, put to, like, literally be tortured, man.
01:01:58.960
After this interminable aggression, he leaves her in an alleyway near Grand Avenue.
01:02:07.340
He put some duct tape over her breast, let her out of the van.
01:02:10.400
She is discovered five minutes later and driven to the hospital, where her condition is stabilized.
01:02:22.580
So, these dudes definitely are stupid and let two women survive.
01:02:28.860
So, this, she was found alive, but she didn't, um, the description of their attackers didn't produce any lead.
01:02:38.980
Yeah, yeah, it's the other victim that actually made a description.
01:02:43.420
So, we know that there's two victims that survived these attacks.
01:02:51.300
She's able to give a detailed description of the man who attacked her.
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She explains that he handcuffed her and forced her to swallow some pills.
01:03:04.140
He took what she described as a length of piano wire and wrapped it around one of her breasts and just kept pulling it, tightening the wire until finally she passed out.
01:03:16.020
And then, the next thing she knew, uh, she woke up in the hospital.
01:03:22.340
So, now, now we know how he would get, you know, get the breasts off.
01:03:28.880
Obviously, you may, for some of you guys that might not know what a piano wire is, it's a very sharp, if, you know, if you know, if it's, you know, if you know what you're doing.
01:03:39.300
And if you make it taut and you literally go like this, it, it could do some damage.
01:03:45.920
Um, so, I mean, I guess the piano wire was his.
01:03:51.480
But he did use, uh, an axe with another victim.
01:03:55.040
Yeah, they would use, yeah, they would use axes and stuff like that.
01:03:57.320
But piano wire seemed to be his favorite thing to use, uh, for cutting off breasts.
01:04:03.000
So, but that's a big tip, though, that she was able to, you know, you know, and here's the thing.
01:04:08.860
This is another thing that these guys used to do.
01:04:10.200
He used to give a bunch of pills to all these women that they would kidnap and do this to.
01:04:13.460
So, luckily for her, she was able to, um, recollect all this stuff.
01:04:20.080
Piano wires are extremely sharp and extremely durable.
01:04:25.080
They're, like, so it's like, even just a slight slash of a piano wire can make a giant cut.
01:04:31.860
So, it's, it's a very super efficient, um, tool to use to cut anything.
01:04:48.500
To take drugs is one way to keep them from screaming.
01:04:55.420
So, you can keep them stationary and perform something like using a piano wire to slice off a breast.
01:05:03.500
He probably tried different things and looked at different possible weapons before he settled on the wire.
01:05:09.800
And the wire, of course, if you hold it taut, is going to slice through all kinds of things.
01:05:14.440
And it's going to be a weapon that isn't going to be obvious should somebody come into his home to do a search.
01:05:21.320
Who's going to think a piano wire is what was used?
01:05:30.860
We got, again, a thousand of you guys watching on YouTube.
01:05:33.440
I want to hit 1,000 likes on YouTube if you guys don't mind so that we can go ahead and make sure that we hit high.
01:05:39.820
High, yeah, hit the algo, man, and hit high engagement.
01:05:44.640
These guys know, man, we got demonetized on YouTube, which kind of sucks.
01:05:53.080
He must have needed gloves if he's using the piano wires.
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Because the line of work that he was in, you're going to see here in a little bit.
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A red van was also seen at the site of Lori Borowski's disappearance.
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There were several very distinguishing features.
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You guys remember, they did that, you know, forensic hypnotism, and they were able to go ahead and get a witness to say,
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Between the front driver's seats and the rear of the van was a plywood partition.
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She also described a roach clip hanging from the front mirror in the van that had two long feathers hanging from it.
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That's a key clue right there, that feathery thing that they have hanging where the rear view mirror will be.
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Because that was the tip that gave the detectives, you know, this is the van.
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Immediately, police put out an all-points bulletin on the van.
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Could it shed light on the whereabouts of Lori Borowski?
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Five days later, her body is discovered in a suburban cemetery.
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It is one of the hundreds of locations her family had searched in previous months.
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I was 10 feet from her body and didn't know it.
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When her body had been found, we learned that her breast was missing or mutilated.
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At that point, the connection was made that she was part of this group of victims that were being mutilated in the Chicagoland area.
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With this perpetrator, there just didn't seem to be a clear type that he liked.
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So you could be a prostitute, a working woman, just a girl out to the movies, day or night, in the city, in the suburbs.
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So these girls would have had no chance with him moving in.
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Back in Chicago, two detectives spot a bright red van with tinted windows driving down a city street.
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It was an older, red van with a plywood partition between the front and the back
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and with a roach clip with a long blue feather and a long white feather hanging from the rearview mirror.
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And, of course, just the first thought, I mean, that never happens.
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The driver, 21-year-old Edward Spreitzer, is visibly nervous.
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When he's questioned, he tells police that the van isn't his.
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It belongs to his boss, Robin Gecht, a local carpenter and electrician.
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Could Gecht be the monster they've been searching for?
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When Robin came outside, they saw he was exactly the description that they had been given.
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The van fit the description perfectly, and Robin Gecht fit the description perfectly.
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Under questioning, he is even tempered and calm, claiming he has no knowledge of the attack on the surviving prostitute two weeks prior,
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Police want to put him in a lineup, but the surviving victim is still in critical condition, so they bring Gecht to her.
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She immediately pointed to Gecht and was just collapsed.
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She was just so frightened, so terrified of him.
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Gecht is booked on several chargers, including aggravated battery and...
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Why don't you just bring a bunch of dudes, including the person that probably did it, into the hospital room?
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Police procedure and just, like, feeling like they got put in danger.
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Bro, police practices have changed a lot over the past few decades.
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And especially the small-ass PDs, they're, like, bong, just hitting them, bro.
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There was a big case that actually got broke because the detective beat the shit out of the guy, man.
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Because he had committed a murder in San Francisco, right?
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So he kills his Chinese family, and you got this detective that was super, you know, emotionally invested in the case.
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And he found out that Night Stalker's friend lived in San Fran, and he knew who the guy was.
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So he puts him in the back of the squad car, and he's talking to him.
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We know that your friends with him, blah, blah, blah, right?
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He's just like, bong, just hits him right in the nose.
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And the guy just started, the detective just started swailing on him, like just beating
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And he's like, okay, okay, I'll tell you what you need to do.
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Richard, Richard Ramirez, Richard Ramirez, stop.
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And then they identified him, and they got him.
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Like, bro, you do that now, you're going to have the FBI on you and shit.
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Like, yeah, they're going to hit you with a civil rights violation and all that shit,
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I was about to ask, if you did that in some of your cases.
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Because, yo, this dude, Night Stalker, had like all of California shook.
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Because he was going crazy in Southern California.
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And then he decided to like just randomly go up to San Francisco and commit like a terrible
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And then he like had, he like ejaculated on the carpet.
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Yeah, so the detective that showed up was pissed.
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Like blood everywhere, pentagrams everywhere, jizz on the floor.
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So when he got the lead and found out who the guy's friend was, and he was like a Mexican
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And the guy was like handcuffed in the back of the car.
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And that's how they found out who Richard Ramirez was.
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It was San Francisco PD that actually identified him.
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Dude was drawing pentagrams and messages, talking to the police and jizzing on the floor.
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Maybe that guy does deserve to get punched in the face.
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Yeah, they put you in a plastic bag and they choke you in.
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You got the Venezuelan Police Department emotes.
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Can we show a little bit of that on Rumble or die?
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Let's finish this documentary and switch it over to Rumble.
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As Chicago PD issues a warrant for his arrest, they consider the idea he may have had an
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They decide to have another look at his employee, Edward Spritzer.
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They were pretty sure that whatever Robin was involved in, somehow Eddie was involved in it
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He was just too frightened, almost beyond fear, jumpy, nervous as a rabbit.
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Law enforcement conduct a series of intense interviews with Spritzer.
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What he reveals is darker and more sinister than anyone could have imagined.
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I kind of want to mention something that I don't mention in either of the documentaries
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There was a male victim that this crew had on October 6th, right after the lady that
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On October 6th, 1982, the gun shot a 28-year-old Rafael Tirado, a local drug dealer.
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And his friend, 18 years old, Alberto Rosario, at a phone booth in a random drive-by shooting.
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So according to Spritzer, which is the youngest guy, I think it is.
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He was driving with Getz, which is the leader of the band.
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And then he took two guns from the back of the car and he told Spritzer to stop the car
01:17:39.040
and then open fire to the two guys that were standing at the open booth.
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But Rosario, the youngest guy, he survived the injuries.
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We're about to get into some demon time here in a little bit, guys.
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Five women across Chicago and the surrounding suburbs have turned up dead and mutilated.
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Police finally have a suspect, Robin Gecht, a 28-year-old married father.
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So they pick up his employee, Eddie Spritzer, for questioning.
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When they started questioning Eddie Spritzer, he immediately opened.
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And just so you guys know, Gecht, Eddie Gecht, the main guy, he's married with kids, but he
01:18:45.480
Like, he'd put pins in her breasts and stuff like that.
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And he would ask her to cut her nipples and stuff.
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Spritzer makes a shocking revelation to police.
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Spritzer is the one that they originally found in the car.
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They would go up into Robin Gecht's little attic.
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So these guys will cut the breast, cut it into pieces, and eat it as a satanic ritual.
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That's why the detective was saying, like, these guys will make Charles Manson look like
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Spreitzer confesses to the murder of seven women, including Lori Borowski.
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He also adds another player to the mix, a man called Andy.
01:26:24.320
Basically, we were looking for a guy, some nutcase evil guy that was doing this, and it
01:26:30.900
turned out it wasn't one, maybe it was two, and then it was two, and then it was three.
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Officers pick up 19-year-old Andy Kokorales, who implicates himself in 18...
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That was the address where they used to do these rituals.
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2163 North McVicker, M-C-V-I-C-K-E-R, Avenue, Chicago, Illinois.
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2163 North McVicker, M-C-V-I-C-K-E-R, McVicker Avenue.
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But let's keep running with the documentary, and when you're ready to pull it up on Google
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I know you got a million things going on back there.
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Teen murders, including those of Linda Sutton and Lori Borowski.
01:27:22.800
He, too, tells detectives that he, Spreitzer, and Gacht, had intercourse with their stab wounds.
01:27:31.960
It has nothing to do with anything satanic or empowering, and he would make the others
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do it, because for him, the act is one thing, but watching others do it is even greater,
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because not only does he get to watch that, which is part of his fantasy life, but he gets
01:27:52.060
Yeah, so he was able to, you know, get these guys under his wing to do, you know, participate
01:28:05.160
We're going to screen share with y'all here in a second.
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Here it is, 2163 McVicker Avenue, Chicago, Illinois.
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Okay, I think that is it to the left, if I'm not mistaken.
01:28:27.960
Yeah, hit the mouse and hit the mouse roll and scroll towards it.
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Okay, so it's got to be, maybe that one to the right.
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Here, you got to hold it and then zoom it the other way.
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No, no, you got to, like, hold it and then, yeah, there you go.
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And then they knocked that shit down because it was on some demon time.
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Where those trees are probably is where it used to be.
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That's actually pretty common, I've noticed, with, like, serial killer houses.
01:30:20.580
And they were doing rituals and stuff, so they said, you know what, man?
01:30:22.960
Because it's going to be hard to sell and stuff.
01:30:27.140
Jeffrey Dahmer's childhood home, though, sold for a good amount of money.
01:30:38.420
Police discover that Gekt had a strong interest in Satanism and secret rituals.
01:30:44.020
A former neighbor tells police that Gekt enjoyed reading books on torture practices of ancient cultures
01:30:50.420
and that he was fascinated by how some ancients cut off the breasts of women
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A girlfriend of Gekt's comes forward and states that he was always demanding that she cut off her own nipple.
01:31:08.080
You can see the house in the minute 34, 14 in the YouTube video on the other documentary.
01:31:36.380
I don't think they showed the house that early.
01:31:37.920
Yeah, we can put it up right now so you can see what the house used to look like before
01:31:40.500
they knocked that shit down because it was on some evil time.
01:31:50.400
All right, we'll show you all the house, man, even though they knocked it down today,
01:31:52.600
but we'll show you what it was like back in the day.
01:32:00.140
Yeah, they definitely knocked that bad boy down.
01:32:02.660
Yeah, they were like, yeah, we get rid of this nigga, man.
01:32:11.600
He has magical power, so just never look him in the eye.
01:32:27.240
they find this infamous secret room set up in the attic.
01:32:32.360
In the attic of his house, the police find a temple
01:32:36.580
that is adorned with decorations and symbols that qualify as satanic.
01:32:41.780
Investigators also find a number of books on satanism, empty trophy boxes, as well as a shotgun.
01:32:53.160
Ballistic experts confirm it's been shot recently.
01:32:56.240
The Chicago Ripper's case occurred at the very start of what sociologists will later call
01:33:09.480
So y'all could see, obviously, that these guys were on some real demon time here.
01:33:14.660
So that might have been a reason why they said, you know what, we're going to knock this down
01:33:18.660
Um, let's go back to the original doc and finish it up.
01:33:35.640
It's a criminal, violent breast fetish where he wants that person to feel pain.
01:33:42.780
To find out more about Andy Kokorales, investigators from DuPage decide to interview his brother Thomas.
01:33:49.580
He quickly implicates himself, describing how he, his brother, and Eddie Spreitzer
01:34:01.140
They dragged her into the hotel room, and at that point, they threw her on the bed,
01:34:05.320
they gagged her, they tied her down, and then, uh, the two of the guys started beating her.
01:34:11.560
People in the chat are saying that the house is still there.
01:34:17.860
Yeah, that's what people are saying in the chat.
01:34:33.260
Let's pull it back up if we can, Bills, when you get a chance.
01:34:42.580
Hey, it's an interactive show, Ninja, so, you know what I'm saying?
01:34:45.180
That's the greatness of having y'all on here, right?
01:34:54.860
All right, let's see what y'all are talking about here.
01:35:00.020
It's kind of weird that the trees will cover them all.
01:35:03.260
Okay, so let's move it, I guess, to the right is probably the best way.
01:35:27.100
Bro, that looks like, man, that house looks like shit, though.
01:35:49.420
Right there on the, like, let's see what this piece of crap is.
01:35:53.780
And Lakers for life, I got your case and I read it down, okay?
01:36:29.380
And so someone bought that joint after, what's his name, went to prison.
01:36:42.900
Look, even on the listing, you don't even see the house, bro.
01:36:52.780
So now we know what that piece of crap is worth.
01:37:17.440
Yeah, can you hit control plus a few times, Bills?
01:37:24.900
So, oh, January 17, 1995, it was sold for $15,000.
01:37:35.940
Yeah, so it was sold in January 1995 for $15,000.
01:37:40.340
And then it was purchased five years later for $158,000.
01:37:44.620
So whoever bought, you know what probably happened?
01:37:47.140
It probably went for sale right after, what's his name, got arrested.
01:38:04.440
So $15,000 in today's dollars is about $30,000 today.
01:38:09.500
So he bought it for, in 1995, this is probably right after this dude got sentenced and everything
01:38:14.180
They probably had to, probably got foreclosed by the bank.
01:38:19.120
And then someone bought it five years later for $158,000.
01:38:22.300
And then that person has been at that house since the year 2000 for 23 years.
01:38:25.660
Oh, well, the only one that's dead right now is the Andrew Cockerellis.
01:38:30.740
Because remember, the main guy, the leader, he wasn't the killer.
01:38:47.880
Whoever sold it made a killing on a demon time, I guess.
01:38:59.300
There definitely was a lot of killings that was made.
01:39:10.900
At that point, they took out a three to four foot wire, and they placed it around her
01:39:19.020
And they began to pull and squeeze the wire, and they kept it in place until the breast was
01:39:23.840
And at that point, they then had sex with the location on her body where the breast was.
01:39:30.480
They took an axe to that area after they had sex with it, and started chopping it.
01:39:40.900
Tommy corroborates previous statements about the ceremonies.
01:39:47.500
He explains that removing the breasts was Robin's idea, and that Gett has special powers.
01:39:54.280
He had the charisma and the power to take these young men where he wanted them to go.
01:40:00.780
They were absolutely terrified of Robin and Gett.
01:40:20.660
I think the satanic element is just plain bizarre.
01:40:24.200
When you find out how they were actually killed, it would take pretty much any normal human
01:40:32.200
The group is dubbed the Chicago Ripper Crew by the media.
01:40:37.600
Tommy Kokorales pled guilty to Lorraine Borowski's murder.
01:40:49.600
Andy Kokorales was charged with multiple murders, including Lorraine Borowski.
01:41:01.360
Eddie Streicher pled guilty to four murders and one attempted murder.
01:41:05.680
He was sentenced to death for killing Linda Sutton.
01:41:08.860
Robin Gett was never charged with murder, only attempted murder.
01:41:15.820
He is eligible for parole in 2042 at the age of 89.
01:41:24.900
You know, I, my entire police career, have never heard of such a crime and cruelty to a
01:41:32.960
It was just, it was just, I can't describe it to you.
01:41:37.060
No one really knows how many women the Chicago Ripper Crew killed for their special ceremonies.
01:41:48.060
There could be fields out there somewhere with some woman's body in it that we will never
01:41:55.400
There simply was no way to, there was not even any way for them to remember all of the
01:42:01.500
So it absolutely is my belief that there are more victims out there.
01:42:16.800
So, uh, we could play a little bit of the interview.
01:42:18.580
So guys, we're going to do a quick little transition over now.
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Um, we're going to end the YouTube stream there.
01:42:24.360
Um, we're going to read some chats that aren't safe for YouTube.
01:42:27.100
And we're going to, um, give some commentary and everything else like that and close out
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But before you do, please like the video on YouTube.
01:42:37.960
Um, like I said before, I wanted to keep as much of it on YouTube as possible.
01:42:40.240
But obviously, we're going to have some crazy stuff that people have and want to say that
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Cause we're going to end the YouTube stream here.
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Drop the link in the chat for the people, by the way, Moe.
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We're going to drop the link in the chat for y'all right now.