The Debrief With MyronGainesX - Fed Explains Chris Watts Family Murder! @JCS Reaction!

00:00:00.240 And we are live. What's up, guys? Welcome to Fed It. Today, we're going to talk about Chris Watts.

00:00:04.140 I'm here with Angie, as you guys already know. We've got a lot to cover, man. Sorry for the delayed start.

00:00:08.140 Let's get into it.

00:00:11.400 I was a special agent with Homeland Security Investigations, okay, guys? HSI.

00:00:14.700 The cases that I did mostly were human smuggling and drug trafficking.

00:00:19.800 No one else has these documents, by the way.

00:00:22.080 Here's what Fed It covers.

00:00:23.600 Dr. Lafredo confirmed lacerations due to stepping on glass.

00:00:30.000 Murder Investigations.

00:00:31.060 You can't reach him in his jacket. You don't know.

00:00:33.320 And he's positioning.

00:00:33.960 Been on February 13, 2019.

00:00:35.680 You're facing two counts of uneducated murder.

00:00:38.860 Racketeering and Rico Conspiracies.

00:00:40.580 Young Slime Life here and after referred to as YSL.

00:00:43.200 This is 6ix9ine, and then this is Billy Seiko right here.

00:00:46.680 Now, when they first started, guys, 6ix9ine ran.

00:00:49.260 I'm a Fed. I'm watching this music video.

00:00:51.540 You know, I'm bobbing my head like, hey, this shit lit.

00:00:53.640 But at the same time, I'm pausing.

00:00:55.120 Oh, wait, who this? Right?

00:00:56.900 Who's that in the back?

00:00:57.740 Firearms and violent crime.

00:01:00.320 A.K.A. Bush Icy violated.

00:01:02.180 They're wanting to stay away from the victim.

00:01:03.920 Drap with Bush Icy arrested after shooting at King of Diamonds.

00:01:06.200 Miami strip club injured one person.

00:01:07.900 This is the one that's going to fuck him up because this gun is not tracing.

00:01:11.360 Well, it happened at the gun range.

00:01:12.580 Here's your boy, 42 Doug, right here on the left.

00:01:14.860 Okay.

00:01:15.160 Sex trafficking and sex crime.

00:01:16.780 They can effectively link him to paying an underage girl.

00:01:19.860 I'm going to lock my 50-year-old right.

00:01:21.380 And the first bomb went off right here.

00:01:24.120 Suspect to shut down a backpack on the site of the second explosion.

00:01:28.000 Inspired by Al-Qaeda.

00:01:29.440 Two terrorists, brothers, the Zokar Sarnev and Tamerlan Sarnev.

00:01:34.000 When the cartels shipped drugs into the country.

00:01:36.080 This guy got arrested for espionage, okay?

00:01:38.760 Trading secrets with the Russians for monetary compensation.

00:01:42.440 The largest corrupt police bust in New Orleans history.

00:01:47.000 The days of the police are gone.

00:01:48.640 So he was in this bad boy.

00:01:50.160 We're going to go over his past, the gang time, so that this all makes sense.

00:02:00.020 All right.

00:02:00.660 And we're back.

00:02:01.160 What's up, guys?

00:02:01.760 Welcome to Fed It, man.

00:02:03.060 Today, we're going to be covering the Chris Watts case.

00:02:04.800 But before we do that, I got a special guest in the house that you guys have come to like quite a bit.

00:02:09.520 Go ahead, Angie.

00:02:09.900 What's up?

00:02:10.200 Hello, guys.

00:02:11.180 It's me again.

00:02:11.940 I'm back.

00:02:13.440 Yeah.

00:02:14.260 We'll be covering Chris Watts case tonight.

00:02:17.380 And we might cover another one for Thursday, right?

00:02:21.180 Mm-hmm.

00:02:21.640 Yes.

00:02:22.280 So I got to go to Dubai on Wednesday.

00:02:23.440 So we'll film another one for y'all.

00:02:25.420 It's either between Murdaugh or JonBenet Ramsey.

00:02:28.660 Maybe we could take a vote from them to poll during the show.

00:02:32.100 Because you guys know the Murdaugh one, he just got, you know, sentenced to life in prison.

00:02:36.880 That's been trending quite a bit.

00:02:38.520 Yeah.

00:02:38.780 So we might end up doing that one for y'all.

00:02:41.260 But anyway, real quick, let's get into the Super Chats.

00:02:43.920 We got Dr. DJ Jackson, free Top G.

00:02:46.580 Yes, absolutely.

00:02:47.260 Free Andrew Tate, man.

00:02:48.760 Y'all already know.

00:02:50.360 We did an episode last, on Friday, where we showed the CCTV footage of, you know, those girls coming in and out, man.

00:02:57.880 They're not being trafficked at all, bro.

00:02:59.340 It's the biggest cap I've ever seen in my life.

00:03:01.260 But hopefully he'll be home soon, inshallah.

00:03:03.260 And we'll be able to, you know, talk about it.

00:03:06.540 But yeah, man, this is literally a travesty of what's going on.

00:03:09.740 Like, these women are false accusers, 1,000%.

00:03:11.700 Everybody knows that.

00:03:13.660 What else?

00:03:14.720 So this episode, I want to tell you all real quick.

00:03:17.000 Chris Watts.

00:03:17.460 So I had got some messages about this case, but I didn't know too much about it.

00:03:20.980 And then Angie brought it to my attention.

00:03:22.340 She was like, hey, this one's a really good one.

00:03:23.920 I think that people would really like it.

00:03:25.080 JCS did a really good breakdown on it.

00:03:26.760 So I watched it and I was like, wow, okay, this is actually an interesting one.

00:03:29.360 Because it's not often, right, that guys end up, you know, killing their family or deleting

00:03:35.660 their family in this case.

00:03:36.640 Actually, it's way more often than you think of.

00:03:39.540 Well, it's not often in the grand scheme of crimes.

00:03:43.440 Like, we hear about it on the news, obviously, right?

00:03:45.820 Because when it happens.

00:03:47.820 But if you look at all the murders, right, most of the time, it's not going to be a dude

00:03:52.100 annihilating his family.

00:03:53.860 That's why it hits such crazy press.

00:03:55.180 But I will say, it does happen way too much.

00:03:59.360 Because you got Murdoch, you got Chris Watts, you got Chris Benoit, who's a famous wrestler.

00:04:03.260 I know you guys asked me about Chris Benoit as well.

00:04:04.680 Those guys actually have a name.

00:04:06.360 I'll talk about it later.

00:04:07.520 But they are called family annihilators.

00:04:10.320 Family what?

00:04:11.140 Family annihilators.

00:04:12.660 Annihilators?

00:04:14.100 Annihilators.

00:04:14.620 I got the word right here.

00:04:15.580 Hang on.

00:04:16.640 Annihilators.

00:04:17.540 I got it right here.

00:04:18.480 She means annihilators, guys.

00:04:19.940 Yeah.

00:04:21.040 That.

00:04:22.980 Okay.

00:04:23.380 So, oh, Jerome, of course, goes, Myron Payne, Angela Eggplants.

00:04:26.820 You guys are clowns, bro.

00:04:28.680 What?

00:04:30.360 It's the typical jokes they always make.

00:04:32.840 Love you, Myron.

00:04:33.240 Thank you for the happy birthday.

00:04:34.120 Of course, bro.

00:04:34.860 Happy birthday to you.

00:04:35.900 And just so y'all know, we did not have sexual relations before this show, right?

00:04:39.360 I was in the gym, right?

00:04:40.140 And she was up here taking some notes and preparing for y'all.

00:04:43.060 You perverts.

00:04:45.920 I was in the gym for real, man.

00:04:47.340 That's why I was a little late.

00:04:48.780 And then we got Jawanza Evans goes, is it true that Andrew Tate has cancer?

00:04:54.140 Well, here's the thing, guys.

00:04:56.040 There's a lot of information about it.

00:04:57.820 I can't confirm right now.

00:04:59.440 I'm not 100% sure.

00:05:02.340 S, your wife, Angie Gaines, is looking good for once.

00:05:05.020 Oh, sure.

00:05:05.360 You're talking smack.

00:05:06.360 You're saying that you're looking good for once.

00:05:07.480 You got something you want to say to her?

00:05:08.160 Okay, thank you so much.

00:05:10.040 For once.

00:05:11.360 Right.

00:05:11.860 She's used to you guys making fun of her at this point.

00:05:13.600 Yeah.

00:05:14.340 All right.

00:05:15.160 So, anything else you want to say before we get into the...

00:05:18.740 Yeah.

00:05:20.280 Back to the list of cases.

00:05:21.920 I've got...

00:05:22.780 We've got loads of cases to cover.

00:05:26.000 You guys keep sending me, like, DMs.

00:05:27.960 You keep commenting on my posts.

00:05:29.540 Guys, I don't really appreciate you commenting on my posts, really.

00:05:33.240 Like, it's not necessary.

00:05:34.500 You can just, like, hit my DMs.

00:05:35.820 I'll be reading you all.

00:05:37.160 I mean...

00:05:37.480 It's not funny.

00:05:39.340 Also, you...

00:05:40.320 Some of you have been...

00:05:41.380 Okay, I want to make this clear.

00:05:43.300 Some of you have been asking for my OnlyFans.

00:05:45.900 And you have also commented that on other videos before.

00:05:49.860 I do not have OnlyFans.

00:05:51.880 I never said I did.

00:05:53.280 I never said I did.

00:05:54.620 And I will not get one.

00:05:55.900 Is this someone posing as you, though, on OnlyFans?

00:05:58.120 What?

00:05:58.520 Is this someone using your pictures or something like that on OnlyFans?

00:06:00.300 No, no, no.

00:06:00.640 I've got, like, Instagrams, fake Instagrams,

00:06:04.020 trying to, like, promote fake OnlyFans with my pictures.

00:06:07.180 But, I mean, it's just fake people, you know?

00:06:10.720 But people be asking for my OnlyFans as if I have OnlyFans.

00:06:14.220 And as if I have said that I have OnlyFans.

00:06:16.760 And I do not.

00:06:17.780 I do not.

00:06:18.440 And I'm not planning on getting one.

00:06:19.620 So, yeah.

00:06:20.140 Just to make that clear.

00:06:21.160 There you go.

00:06:22.120 All right.

00:06:22.520 Anything else you want to say?

00:06:23.920 Yeah.

00:06:24.160 Well, keep sending me the cases.

00:06:27.480 You send me the cases doesn't mean that we are going to do it, like, right away.

00:06:31.480 Because we got, like, this is the list, guys.

00:06:34.320 It goes on.

00:06:35.820 Oh, damn.

00:06:36.540 What the hell?

00:06:37.160 Yeah.

00:06:37.400 I didn't even know it was that much.

00:06:38.620 Yeah.

00:06:39.760 I'm telling you, man.

00:06:40.520 Look at this.

00:06:41.160 So, I mean, you got to give us time to, you know, research.

00:06:45.840 Yeah.

00:06:46.220 To consider to, you know, do the polls and everything.

00:06:48.980 Because anytime we get a case, guys, what we do is we typically watch a documentary on

00:06:53.100 it, like, read through it, see if it's going to be good for y'all.

00:06:56.700 And then if it's boring or it's kind of whack or something or too similar to something else

00:06:59.880 we've covered, we won't do it.

00:07:01.020 And the reason why is because we want to make sure that we get y'all, you know.

00:07:03.740 And also, we look at, like, what people are requesting the most.

00:07:06.520 So, whatever is requested the most that also has good content on it, we typically cover

00:07:09.960 it because we want to give y'all good content at the end of the day, bro.

00:07:12.760 Like, I mean, we could always do, you know, random cases here and there or everything else

00:07:16.180 like that.

00:07:16.480 But I want each piece of content to come out to be super high quality.

00:07:20.500 We're releasing two videos a week right now, one on Sunday and then one on Thursday.

00:07:23.540 I'm thinking about potentially bumping it up to three times per week.

00:07:26.500 But I ain't going to lie.

00:07:27.980 That's going to be very difficult because researching for these cases takes quite a bit of time.

00:07:33.740 Yeah, it is.

00:07:35.040 Andy Korea goes, Angie Gaines is back.

00:07:36.680 Let's go.

00:07:37.100 Ubering and listening to you guys.

00:07:38.100 I appreciate that, man.

00:07:39.320 Chief Keefe goes, can y'all check out Shemaya Hall, Italy, Texas?

00:07:44.840 Thanks.

00:07:45.320 I'm not aware.

00:07:45.840 That's thanks, I think.

00:07:46.680 Okay.

00:07:47.420 We should send them boys after the Tate accusers.

00:07:51.040 Man, we don't know what them boys is involved in.

00:07:54.540 And then we got SCO971.

00:07:57.260 Showing some love to the best streamer on the tubes.

00:07:59.460 Thank you for all the effort you put into these.

00:08:01.720 PS Herd Fresh was putting out a book.

00:08:03.240 Congrats to him.

00:08:04.140 Do we know if it's pop-up or color by number?

00:08:06.880 No, it's going to be a book on networking, guys, is what he's going to be putting out for y'all.

00:08:11.400 So that's his expertise right there, is networking and getting into certain cliques and everything else like that.

00:08:16.660 Family inhalers?

00:08:19.060 Right.

00:08:19.420 Yo, man, I knew they were going to make fun of that.

00:08:22.360 Yeah.

00:08:23.040 What's the word, though?

00:08:24.160 How do you say it?

00:08:25.180 Annihilators.

00:08:25.900 Annihilators.

00:08:26.480 Annihilators, yeah.

00:08:26.940 This is the word here.

00:08:27.740 You said annihilators.

00:08:29.320 I don't know what to say.

00:08:30.380 It's all good, bro.

00:08:31.300 It's all good shit.

00:08:32.080 But, yeah, L English.

00:08:35.580 Anyway, but, guys, so we're going to go ahead and get into this breakdown.

00:08:38.940 This is from JCS.

00:08:39.800 As you guys know, I really like reacting to their videos.

00:08:42.240 This is a three-parter here of the Chris Watts case.

00:08:47.780 Yeah.

00:08:48.220 I guess we'll just get into it and do a breakdown of the investigation.

00:08:51.040 Oh, real quick, before I even do that, who is Chris Watts?

00:08:53.740 So, guys, Chris Watts, as y'all can see, Christopher Watts, was sentenced to, well, let's go to, let's go here.

00:09:02.180 Okay.

00:09:02.780 Christopher Lee Watts, born May 16, 1985, in the early hours of August 13, 2018, in Frederick, Colorado.

00:09:08.940 This is the case page, you know, like the family murders.

00:09:12.560 American oil field operator Christopher Lee Watts murdered his pregnant wife, Shannon, 34, by strangulation,

00:09:18.080 and their two children, Bella 4 and Celeste 3, by smothering them.

00:09:20.920 He burned Shannon in a shallow grave near an oil storage facility and dumped his children's bodies into crude oil tanks.

00:09:27.620 Watts initially maintained his innocence in his family's disappearance, but was arrested on August 15 after confessed to murdering Shannon and interviewed detectives.

00:09:34.460 He later admitted to murdering his children.

00:09:36.800 So, get right into it, guys.

00:09:39.020 From JCS, do me a quick favor before we get into this thing.

00:09:41.860 Like the video.

00:09:42.980 Subscribe to the channel.

00:09:44.080 This is a very disturbing case, but y'all requested it, so let's get into it.

00:09:47.260 Angie, you got anything before we go?

00:09:48.720 No.

00:09:49.260 All right.

00:09:49.520 But you can go.

00:09:50.260 Without further ado.

00:09:51.840 The drama began shortly after the Frederick Police Department received a call from Nicole Atkinson, the best friend of Shannon Watts.

00:09:58.980 She had arranged to drive Shannon into town that same day for a pregnancy checkup, but there was no answer when she knocked at the door, nor any response to her text messages or phone calls.

00:10:08.600 After noticing her shoes were still at the front door, she became concerned and called 911.

00:10:13.600 Nicole?

00:10:14.180 Yes.

00:10:14.680 Okay.

00:10:14.980 What's going on?

00:10:15.600 So, my friend, we were out of town for a business trip this weekend, and I dropped her off at 2 o'clock this morning.

00:10:22.640 She's 15 weeks pregnant.

00:10:23.860 She wasn't feeling well, and she had a doctor's appointment this morning at 9, and I told her to let me know if she needed me to take her.

00:10:29.780 She's got two little girls.

00:10:31.280 I've called.

00:10:32.000 I've texted.

00:10:32.980 Her car's in the garage.

00:10:34.380 Her shoes she wears every single day are right in the front door.

00:10:36.860 How are you doing?

00:10:45.040 How are you doing?

00:10:45.460 Good.

00:10:46.340 You seeing your neighbors today?

00:10:48.660 No?

00:10:49.220 Okay.

00:10:52.020 What's Chris's phone number?

00:10:53.320 Chris's phone number is...

00:10:54.980 Hey, Chris.

00:10:55.500 I'm Sir Coonrod for the police department.

00:10:58.200 Pretty good.

00:10:59.180 So, do you have any idea where your wife is?

00:11:01.860 All right.

00:11:02.260 My concern is her car's here.

00:11:04.040 They're saying she's diabetic, and I don't want her...

00:11:06.700 She's upstairs and can't respond.

00:11:08.860 Okay.

00:11:09.380 About how far out are you?

00:11:10.480 Okay.

00:11:10.980 All right.

00:11:11.360 He said like five minutes.

00:11:12.300 It's not a sure sign of guilty conduct, yet the fact that Chris made the officer wait for his return

00:11:17.800 would have most likely alerted some minor suspicion.

00:11:20.380 In normal circumstances, a husband receiving a call from the police saying they were concerned

00:11:25.540 about the safety of their pregnant wife and children, in most cases, would have given

00:11:29.640 them permission to immediately kick the door down.

00:11:31.960 It's a truly somber awareness to know that the man stepping out of the car had only a

00:11:36.460 very short time ago dumped his infant daughter's bodies into an oil tank and buried his pregnant

00:11:41.340 wife in a shallow grave.

00:11:44.840 Scott, how you doing?

00:11:45.480 How's it going?

00:11:47.060 So, this is the only vehicle she would have?

00:11:49.180 Only one.

00:11:50.120 Okay.

00:11:50.460 Do you guys just notice how he said, hey, what's going on?

00:11:52.120 Hey, what's going on?

00:11:52.900 And just immediately goes right into the garage.

00:11:54.760 This is a huge red flag, right?

00:11:57.140 Normally, if you hear something like this, like, oh, your pregnant wife is in some trouble

00:12:00.960 or what's going on here, he would be frantic, panicking, like, what's going on?

00:12:04.600 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:12:05.160 But instead, he's just like, hey, what's up?

00:12:06.440 And then he just like runs right into the house and he goes through the garage, which is

00:12:09.520 also strange.

00:12:10.020 So I want you guys to pay attention to that, uh, that behavior.

00:12:14.680 She would drive.

00:12:15.660 Okay.

00:12:15.820 The familiar routine for anyone checking for someone's presence inside a house, whether

00:12:20.360 it be an emergency or otherwise, is to immediately call out to them for instantaneous reassurance.

00:12:25.500 Chris remains silent, but instead feels the need to examine his wife's car before subtly

00:12:30.680 sneaking through the internal garage door.

00:12:32.840 He then...

00:12:33.760 That's weird.

00:12:35.640 ...and disappears for one minute and seven seconds before letting the neighbors and police

00:12:39.460 officer inside.

00:12:40.660 Only Chris will know what he carried out during that time period, but it's safe to assume

00:12:45.060 that his curious behavior was not going unnoticed, made evident by the unsettled gaze of Nicole

00:12:50.420 as he opens the door.

00:12:51.420 Yeah, look at her face, guys.

00:12:52.340 She's like, what the hell is going on?

00:12:53.840 Like, like, bro, why'd you go into the garage instead of just letting us come with you or

00:13:00.320 like immediately kicking in the front?

00:13:01.820 Like, this is just strange because remember, yeah, it's sketch because and again, he checked

00:13:06.800 that Lexus vehicle, his wife's vehicle before anything.

00:13:09.800 Then he ran to the house without saying a word randomly.

00:13:13.260 There's like, all right, guys, I'm gonna open the door for you guys on the front.

00:13:15.560 Yeah, so even the friend is looking like, this is strange, like, what's going on here?

00:13:21.920 Hey, please, permission to welcome my daughter to the house.

00:13:24.760 Mind if I come in, Chris?

00:13:26.540 There were multiple key moments captured from inside the house, which may not have been

00:13:30.900 noticed.

00:13:31.240 And I don't know if you guys caught that, but the reason why the police officer said,

00:13:33.960 hey, do you mind if I come in?

00:13:34.980 He's getting verbal consent.

00:13:36.480 The reason why he's doing that, guys, is because probably subconsciously the police officer

00:13:40.580 knows, I don't know if I'm welcome in this home because he hasn't, even though there's

00:13:44.020 like some danger or whatever, when 911 called and asked him if we could kick it in, he said

00:13:47.720 no, or he didn't offer it.

00:13:49.240 Then when he went into the home, he didn't say, come with me.

00:13:51.720 So the officer has to verbally ask him, hey, do you mind if I come in?

00:13:55.660 And that's when he said, oh, yeah, that's cool.

00:13:57.260 So now he has the grounds to come in.

00:13:58.940 And remember, guys, when it comes to police going into your home, right, right to be means

00:14:05.160 right to see.

00:14:06.120 And anything they see that could be involved, that could potentially incriminate them or anything

00:14:10.020 else like that is all fair game.

00:14:12.100 Okay, that's what I remember.

00:14:12.700 They taught us when we're in the academy.

00:14:14.440 Right to be means right to see.

00:14:16.300 And if he's given consent that he can go into the house, that means he's right.

00:14:18.980 He has the right to be there.

00:14:20.300 And anything he sees is fair game, right?

00:14:22.700 Plain view doctrine.

00:14:24.060 So that's why that police officer asked that, because at that point, he knows in the back

00:14:27.060 of his mind, this dude is acting a little weird.

00:14:29.100 He hasn't given me consent overtly.

00:14:30.540 So let me ask for it immediately by the officer, but would have no doubt been gathered by forensics

00:14:35.900 upon further investigation.

00:14:37.640 The most overt peculiarity was Chris's interaction with his phone.

00:14:41.260 The guise of his thumb movement would have given the impression he was texting someone,

00:14:45.220 which would have seemed very peculiar, as the normal response would be to frantically

00:14:48.960 call people rather than text, given the circumstances.

00:14:52.120 Hindsight gives us a clearer picture of Chris's introversion, which is that he was most likely

00:14:56.680 using his phone to avoid eye contact and progressive dialogue with the officer.

00:15:01.240 What time do you leave the day?

00:15:04.380 What time do you leave there?

00:15:05.400 No, here.

00:15:06.120 Usually between 5.30 and 6.

00:15:08.600 All right.

00:15:09.160 And was Shannon here then?

00:15:10.500 Yes.

00:15:11.460 Yeah, I was good.

00:15:12.080 It's all right.

00:15:18.480 Does she usually watch the kids, or do you have daycare to watch them?

00:15:21.400 She usually watches the kids at the high school.

00:15:24.400 Okay.

00:15:24.640 Do you guys have any kind of issues, marital issues, or?

00:15:28.960 We're going through separation.

00:15:30.720 You are.

00:15:31.380 Now, how's that going?

00:15:32.620 Uh, it's going civil for the most part, or.

00:15:42.040 Like, yo, like, this is weird, right?

00:15:45.480 Like, yo, my man is out here surfing through Instagram, or what are you doing?

00:15:49.060 Bro, like, he's out here liking Thotty's pictures, or what's going on here, man?

00:15:52.980 Boom, my God!

00:15:55.120 Yo, I love that y'all are saying L, Chris, in the chat, and saying Chris is a bum and shit.

00:16:05.020 Additionally, we are presented with the subtle cues of Chris's forethought cover story,

00:16:09.560 being that his wife simply ran off with the kids after a breakdown in the marriage.

00:16:15.640 My man letting all them girls know he's single now.

00:16:19.680 Yo, I'm on the market, baby!

00:16:21.060 You know what time it is?

00:16:26.100 Um, they're blankies they sleep with, they don't leave anywhere without him?

00:16:29.640 Go ahead.

00:16:29.920 The rest of Chris's conduct could be analyzed and dissected in various ways,

00:16:51.640 and it would be easy to pick at certain oddities in body language and link them with signs of guilt.

00:16:56.120 Yet, without the hindsight we have now, his behavior could just as easily be linked with an innocent man

00:17:01.520 who is understandably concerned and frantic over the disappearance of his family.

00:17:05.700 His very conservant neighbor, however, had the perceptual advantage of knowing Chris on a semi-personal level,

00:17:11.460 and could analyze his kinesics in a far more accurate manner than the police officer.

00:17:15.880 If you just want to go talk to him, I'm going to get his info real quick.

00:17:21.380 Oh, here we go.

00:17:27.500 The friend knows signs off.

00:17:29.040 Of course.

00:17:29.600 And bro, this is their friend, this is, well, allegedly his friend, saying this.

00:17:59.260 So, obviously, as a police officer, that raises your suspicion to a whole other level, right?

00:18:04.640 Yeah.

00:18:04.960 So, um, he's acting way out of character, and one of the worst times in a normal person's life,

00:18:10.780 finding out that your children and your wife are missing.

00:18:12.740 This was just after the moment he had shown both Chris and the officer his surveillance footage of that same morning,

00:18:36.180 capturing only Chris leaving the house after loading multiple unidentified things into his truck.

00:18:41.300 Oh, okay, loading a bunch of things in his truck, dark at night, or early morning.

00:18:46.940 Not only this guy was, like, suspicious of him, but also the woman, because the woman that called the police

00:18:52.780 was, like, the best friend of his wife.

00:18:55.160 Yes.

00:18:55.780 Yes, the one that was shocked when he was, like, opening the front door.

00:18:58.360 Yeah, so what happened before is that she texted him because his wife had an appointment, like, a medical appointment,

00:19:08.080 because she was pregnant.

00:19:09.200 Ah, yes.

00:19:09.660 So she missed it.

00:19:10.520 So she was, like, worried.

00:19:11.800 And she was, what, 30-something weeks pregnant, right?

00:19:13.440 Yeah.

00:19:14.100 Yeah.

00:19:14.660 No, she was, like, 15 weeks pregnant.

00:19:16.440 Okay, okay.

00:19:17.120 She was, like, in her fourth month or something like that.

00:19:20.420 I don't know.

00:19:21.460 So, anyways, she texted him to know what happened to Chanin, which is the wife.

00:19:27.260 And he was, like, yeah, she went on a play date, but they only have one car.

00:19:31.820 And the car was in the garage.

00:19:32.940 Okay, that was, like, he inspected.

00:19:34.600 Yeah.

00:19:35.000 And it was in there, yeah.

00:19:35.700 The garage, the car is here, so what the fuck?

00:19:38.540 But she kept, like, trying to open the door.

00:19:41.140 And they have this thing in the house where they send you, like, an alarm to your phone every time you feel something.

00:19:47.080 Okay.

00:19:47.440 So.

00:19:48.120 So he was getting alarmed, notifications when she was trying to open the door.

00:19:51.680 He was getting notifications, and she told him, yo, I'm going to call the police.

00:19:54.660 And then he was, like, no, don't call the police.

00:19:56.120 I'm going to go home.

00:19:56.780 And then that's when that happened.

00:19:58.440 Like, she called the police, and that's when he got there, and he got all nervous.

00:20:01.980 That's, okay, so he didn't expect it.

00:20:03.520 That explains his weird behavior.

00:20:05.060 Yeah, he was, like, please don't call the police.

00:20:06.760 He told her.

00:20:08.020 So he didn't call the police, because he knew.

00:20:09.800 They didn't mention that in the doc.

00:20:11.780 Okay.

00:20:12.460 Cool.

00:20:13.060 A little extra insight there.

00:20:16.080 Also, guys, do me a quick favor.

00:20:17.360 We got 1,300 of you guys watching right now.

00:20:19.560 Do me a quick favor, man.

00:20:20.280 Let's get this thing to 1,000 likes, man, so that we can get the engagement up, so videos like this can, you know, hit the algo a little bit harder.

00:20:26.420 Because, you know, we're providing all types of content out here, man.

00:20:29.260 I'll pick up cars coming this way.

00:20:31.080 I'll get anything coming this way and make it a turn.

00:20:34.420 So, and usually at night, I pick up the cars coming your turn.

00:20:38.680 So, unless they pull it right here, I'll put out a car for walking now.

00:20:43.440 Although not fully incriminating, as Shannon and the kids could have left through the back entrance, this was an extremely detrimental piece of evidence and would have no doubt been extolled by forensics and made Chris an immediate prime suspect.

00:20:56.900 And you guys can see how his uncomfortable behavior while his neighbor was talking about potentially another camera angle.

00:21:01.520 So, let's look at Chris Watts real quick when he's describing this.

00:21:05.120 Through the back entrance, this was an...

00:21:06.940 Although not fully incriminating, as Shannon and the kids could have left through the back entrance, this was an extremely detrimental piece of evidence and would have no doubt been extolled by forensics and made Chris an immediate prime suspect.

00:21:31.520 The following day, Chris, for some bizarre reason, agreed to be interviewed by two separate news stations where he came across as extremely unimpassioned and detached from the alarming nature of the situation.

00:21:42.940 Like, now, guys, remember, this is a guy that's an introvert.

00:21:46.640 He doesn't like talking like that.

00:21:48.120 He's very quiet, etc.

00:21:49.320 So, the fact that he would give two interviews, right, to news stations right after this is kind of...

00:21:55.900 That's not very introverted behavior.

00:21:57.520 But it looks to me as if he's like, yo, I got to paint a narrative first before people suspect me of something.

00:22:05.600 When I got home yesterday, it was like a ghost town.

00:22:08.420 Like, she wasn't here.

00:22:10.100 Kids weren't here.

00:22:11.160 I have no idea, like, where they went.

00:22:13.320 Right now, it's got K-9 units, the sheriff's department.

00:22:17.580 Everybody's like, they're doing their best right now to figure out, like, if they can get a scent.

00:22:21.760 If she wasn't here, like, where did she go?

00:22:24.320 Like, once I got here, it was like, all right, who can I call?

00:22:27.900 I called her three times, texted her about three times just to say, you know, what's going on?

00:22:33.800 Like, if she's vanished, like, I want her back so bad.

00:22:36.360 I want those kids back so bad.

00:22:38.040 Right now.

00:22:39.360 Yo, that was the least passionate.

00:22:41.440 I want her and my kids back so bad.

00:22:43.240 Yeah, he's got, like, a sneaker in his face.

00:22:46.960 Yeah.

00:22:48.700 I want her back so bad.

00:22:52.060 Like, what, bruh?

00:22:53.520 Yo, my man needs to take some acting classes.

00:22:55.600 Holy!

00:22:56.460 Like, what the?

00:22:57.300 Boom, mocha!

00:22:58.400 I don't even want to just, like, throw anything out there.

00:23:00.780 Like, I hope that she's somewhere safe right now and with the kids.

00:23:05.900 Last night, I wanted that knock on the door.

00:23:08.220 I wanted to see the kids running, just barrel rush me and just give me a hug.

00:23:13.240 Knock me on the ground.

00:23:14.780 Bruh!

00:23:15.720 That's why last night was just horrible.

00:23:17.460 I couldn't do it.

00:23:19.700 I just, I'm hoping that some.

00:23:22.420 What was that laugh at the end there?

00:23:24.580 Like, what the?

00:23:28.080 I think even he sees how bad his acting is.

00:23:31.640 He's like, damn, this shit trash.

00:23:32.860 Nobody believes me.

00:23:33.700 Something or somebody knows something and comes forward.

00:23:37.360 Shanann, Bella, Celeste, if you're out there, just come back.

00:23:43.860 Like, what?

00:23:45.180 Somebody has her.

00:23:46.780 Like, just look at, like, the dead stare.

00:23:49.700 You know what I mean?

00:23:49.980 Like that.

00:23:50.380 You know we make fun of 304s, right?

00:23:51.980 That thousand cocks stare.

00:23:54.060 It's almost similar here.

00:23:55.200 It's like just the dead in the eyes.

00:23:56.280 Like, yo, I don't see any passion here.

00:23:58.660 It doesn't look to me as if a guy lost his wife and children.

00:24:01.900 You know what I mean?

00:24:02.700 To me, I look at it like, this is a dude that's single and about to hit the market.

00:24:05.920 He's selling all them hoes.

00:24:09.500 Get over here!

00:24:10.600 I'm on the market, baby.

00:24:12.560 Please bring her back.

00:24:13.940 I need to see everybody.

00:24:15.560 I need to see everybody again.

00:24:16.860 This house is not complete without anybody here.

00:24:20.500 Please bring her back.

00:24:21.320 This could have been construed as shock trauma, where a person will turn numb and retreat into

00:24:25.980 themselves as a means of escape.

00:24:27.820 Yet the viewers watching this live from home were probably thinking what we as the retrospective

00:24:32.940 audience already know.

00:24:34.400 He was called in for questioning four hours later.

00:24:36.800 All right, let's do this.

00:24:46.640 Somebody saw something.

00:24:47.600 Somebody knows where these kids are.

00:24:48.760 I keep saying the kids, I'm sorry.

00:24:49.900 The kids in your life.

00:24:50.660 Does that sense?

00:24:51.660 I know you're going through a lot, so I'm not going to keep you around the night.

00:24:56.220 Tell me exactly what you remember, and I'll take notes about where we can go.

00:24:59.820 All right.

00:25:00.840 So, this 1.48 a.m.

00:25:03.940 Let me switch to chairs.

00:25:04.920 What was it?

00:25:05.260 He said, that's when they come knocking.

00:25:07.960 I said, help.

00:25:08.740 I said, when they come knocking, I got me to the key.

00:25:11.100 One of the oldest and most commonly used techniques is for the interrogator to sit between the

00:25:16.120 door and the suspect.

00:25:17.260 This is for the purpose of heightening the feelings of isolation and dependence.

00:25:21.180 It's an indirect subliminal message, letting Chris know that the only way out of that room

00:25:25.700 is through the detective.

00:25:26.980 It's an excellent tool for stripping away confidence, thus increasing the telling signs

00:25:31.540 and body language when information is fabricated.

00:25:35.260 4 a.m.

00:25:36.360 That's when my alarm goes off for work.

00:25:38.180 And I'm seeing this, get dressed, brush my teeth, everything I do upstairs.

00:25:41.420 Okay.

00:25:42.300 About 4.15.

00:25:43.360 That's when I get back to slide right into bed next to her and start having a conversation

00:25:48.660 with her about having the house up for sale.

00:25:52.040 Alright, so he's going into, guys, having a discussion with his wife about putting the

00:25:57.420 house on sale.

00:25:58.600 And he's going to go into, and I know the audio isn't the best here, as you guys know,

00:26:02.480 with these police interrogation rooms.

00:26:04.140 A lot of times the audio is like very bouncy or whatever.

00:26:06.680 But he's talking about, he's going to talk about some marital issues and also them selling

00:26:10.860 the house.

00:26:11.240 Talking about stuff like actually going, proceeding with the separation.

00:26:16.760 Okay.

00:26:17.440 And obviously it gets pretty emotional.

00:26:19.720 Like we're talking about, you know, like we felt this, this connection was there, like

00:26:23.200 falling out of love and trying to stay together.

00:26:26.900 It may have just for the kids' sake, but realizing that doing like our homework, it's not, most of

00:26:32.460 the time that's not going to work.

00:26:33.580 Yeah.

00:26:33.780 So, um, he basically says he got ready for work, goes to work, receives a call from the

00:26:41.500 police, and then returns home.

00:26:42.580 And as you guys know, right, shout out to Angie, um, he didn't want the police to be called

00:26:46.880 by the best friend, um, for obvious reasons.

00:26:52.280 So that's when I got home, I opened the garage door, and we went inside the house.

00:26:56.940 And also, I want you guys to pay attention to his body language.

00:26:58.920 He doesn't really look at the detective in the eye.

00:27:00.780 He's looking down as he's telling a story.

00:27:02.800 Um, you guys remember, we did a podcast with, uh, Andrew Bustamante from the CIA, uh, former

00:27:06.940 CIA officer.

00:27:07.560 And he talked about how, um, the part of your brain that, um, is the creative side, right?

00:27:12.900 When you're trying to imagine things, uh, it's activated more when you look down and

00:27:17.500 you're telling something versus when you're, you know, you tend to be a little bit more

00:27:21.020 honest when you're looking up, cause you're trying to draw from your memory and stay factual,

00:27:24.040 right?

00:27:24.920 So notice how much he looks down when he's telling this story.

00:27:29.440 All right.

00:27:29.920 Um, now, does it mean that every single time you look down, it means you're like,

00:27:32.800 no, of course not.

00:27:33.620 There's always exceptions, but it is a good tool to gauge, uh, the truthfulness of an

00:27:37.260 individual.

00:27:37.880 So pay attention to that.

00:27:38.940 And then also I want you guys to pay attention to how he mumbles when he tells his story here.

00:27:43.480 It's not very, um, he speaks in a very passive voice.

00:27:46.900 It's not this happened.

00:27:48.100 And then this happened.

00:27:48.740 It's like, I think this happened.

00:27:49.940 Maybe this happened.

00:27:50.600 It's a very passive voice.

00:27:51.780 And looked everywhere.

00:27:54.940 Shanann Bella from Celeste.

00:27:56.740 Nowhere to be found.

00:27:58.440 Shed the white rings on her nightstand.

00:28:00.240 Her phone's still on the couch.

00:28:01.680 Her purse is still there.

00:28:03.020 The medicine for the kid is still there.

00:28:04.620 The car on the car seat is still there.

00:28:06.100 And there's no sign of them anywhere.

00:28:07.800 Okay.

00:28:12.720 I was just hoping that, I'm going to let all the lights on in the house.

00:28:15.320 I was hoping that I'd get a knock on the door.

00:28:17.400 But nothing happened.

00:28:18.520 Yeah, but nothing happened.

00:28:19.740 What do you think happened?

00:28:22.200 At first, I really thought maybe she was just at somebody's house.

00:28:26.260 Just decompressing.

00:28:27.240 What's going on?

00:28:27.680 Yeah, but after today, like with the onslaught of all the cars, I mean, all the police cars,

00:28:34.340 all the news, all the canine units, it's making me lean the other direction about someone took her.

00:28:41.740 Okay.

00:28:42.200 But it's just, if someone took her, it would have to have been someone she knew.

00:28:49.660 Because there's no sign of anything like being disturbed, broken.

00:28:54.720 But, like, that's the way I'm leaning now.

00:28:56.440 At first, I thought, for real, she was just decompressing somewhere.

00:28:59.540 I mean, I thought she was safe.

00:29:01.460 Even though everything in the house was left there.

00:29:04.660 But now, it's just after the day with the news crews and everything, it's just, it feels more the other direction.

00:29:09.600 And it's freaking me out.

00:29:17.180 On that night, I told her, I woke up that morning, early that morning, I told her, like, the disconnection is, it's there.

00:29:23.580 Like, it's not going away.

00:29:24.940 Like, the connection we had in the beginning, it's not there anymore.

00:29:30.700 It's like, I don't feel like the love we have is there anymore.

00:29:35.320 Okay.

00:29:37.160 And it's just, like, I don't feel like, I mean, if we want to stay together for the kids, I'm not sure if that's going to work.

00:29:43.400 Like, bringing us what you told them?

00:29:45.820 Yes.

00:29:46.140 Okay.

00:29:46.700 Like, having another baby bring us in this relationship.

00:29:49.300 Do you think this is going to work with us being together?

00:29:52.640 Or separation, I think, is going to be the best possible route for us.

00:29:58.000 And that's when, like, all the crime and everything proceeded.

00:30:00.400 And it was just, it was very hard just to talk, talk about that.

00:30:05.540 But I needed to do it face to face.

00:30:08.180 Okay.

00:30:08.860 And I needed, like, I needed to see her face.

00:30:11.320 Like, while I did it, I couldn't text, phone, whatever.

00:30:14.200 I needed to be face to face and be able to see her and know that she was going to be at least reciprocating back to me.

00:30:23.360 Oh.

00:30:24.120 What did she say?

00:30:25.600 She said that it was, I mean, it was, she wants, she wanted to kind of work on it.

00:30:30.980 But if that's the way I was feeling, then she respects that.

00:30:35.640 Okay.

00:30:37.420 1 p.m.

00:30:38.720 Now I'm on my way home to check on my family.

00:30:41.720 Just because you're worried based on the conversation.

00:30:44.000 Nicole, had the police contacted you by then?

00:30:45.560 No.

00:30:45.980 Okay.

00:30:46.960 She got to, are you right?

00:30:48.020 I'm sorry, go ahead.

00:30:48.600 But Nicole says she was probably going to call the cops.

00:30:51.160 Okay.

00:30:52.020 All right.

00:30:53.060 Now, so it sounds like Nicole's pretty worried.

00:30:55.740 More worried than you.

00:30:57.380 Okay, bam.

00:30:58.880 So now he's starting in the process of challenging his story, you know, and chinking away at the armor a bit.

00:31:06.100 And obviously this is a big-ass red flag because why is the best friend more worried than you?

00:31:10.900 And the other thing, too, you guys got to remember is that more than likely this detective did his homework.

00:31:14.400 He watched the body cam footage from the investigating officer.

00:31:17.180 The investigating officer probably told him, hey, you know, I showed up on scene, et cetera.

00:31:20.020 Because when you interview the suspect, guys, the suspect is most of the time, right, one of the last people that you talk to.

00:31:27.900 You talk to the officer that showed up on scene.

00:31:29.720 You talk to other witnesses, et cetera.

00:31:31.940 So when they brought him in, he probably at this point, if he's a good detective and did his homework, looked at the body cam and noticed his strange behavior.

00:31:38.720 So he's coming in with more facts than Watts probably knows.

00:31:42.760 Once she couldn't get anything out of her and nothing was going on in the house, I was like, all right, I gotta go home.

00:31:49.920 The sharp and sudden change of angle from baseline questioning to direct confrontation would normally make an innocent person refute or at least challenge the statement.

00:31:59.380 There would also be a brief pause as they would need time to process the allegation due to its perplexity.

00:32:05.060 A guilty individual would already be in a defensive state of mind and would normally respond in a hastily modus.

00:32:11.620 Instead of refuting the remark, they would accept it but try and explain its actuality in a defensive manner.

00:32:17.160 But it sounds like Nicole was more worried.

00:32:19.220 Yeah, because like most of it, like if she hasn't texted me, like I understand that.

00:32:23.160 Like sometimes that happens.

00:32:24.220 Okay.

00:32:24.640 But for her not to get back to her direct sales group, that was very unorthodox.

00:32:31.200 Okay.

00:32:33.120 So then they're at home, police officers there, then walk me through that.

00:32:41.880 So as we go through the house, we're all...

00:32:43.860 Do you have media that you go through the house?

00:32:44.940 Oh, like I open the garage door and I just go into the house.

00:32:48.840 I'm looking.

00:32:50.240 Like I just go in the garage door and I'm looking.

00:32:52.220 There's the police on the station saying, hey, let me talk to you for a minute.

00:32:54.440 No.

00:32:54.760 No.

00:32:54.980 Okay.

00:32:55.440 No.

00:32:55.720 What's the vibe like?

00:32:56.860 I go up there, shake his hand, but I'm like opening the garage door at the same time.

00:33:01.240 Okay.

00:33:01.880 And then I go through and then they're waiting at the front door.

00:33:04.740 I go in, open that up, and then they come in.

00:33:07.320 Oh, so they go in the garage door with you?

00:33:08.640 Okay.

00:33:09.100 Well, they went in the garage.

00:33:10.080 See, told y'all.

00:33:11.100 He watched the body cam footage, which is why he's asking these questions.

00:33:13.520 He already knows the answer, but he wants to see what he's going to say to kind of get

00:33:16.520 a gauge of how he sounds when he's telling the truth.

00:33:18.600 And he probably wants to grill him a bit on his strange behavior with a police officer

00:33:24.520 being there and your wife not being found and you going around into the garage and not

00:33:29.580 immediately telling the officer, hey, come in the house with me.

00:33:31.560 If you really were scared, if anything, you would probably say, hey, you go in first.

00:33:35.340 You're armed.

00:33:36.180 You know, let's find out where my wife is.

00:33:37.920 They didn't come in the way I did.

00:33:41.260 All right.

00:33:41.940 So then everybody goes in.

00:33:46.060 I think that was at 4 o'clock.

00:33:50.100 That's when the neighbor, the officer, I went over to the neighbor's house to see if he saw

00:33:55.960 anything.

00:33:57.520 Who did he think he was at?

00:33:59.100 I think it was the officer.

00:34:00.520 He just went over there.

00:34:02.040 And then that's when the neighbor called him back over to show him he had some stuff

00:34:08.900 from the other night.

00:34:09.800 Okay.

00:34:09.980 Just show him, like, whatever he had and I put motion on it.

00:34:12.900 Okay.

00:34:14.480 4 p.m.

00:34:15.180 Police check neighbor security footage and question them as well.

00:34:19.360 Okay.

00:34:20.080 Have we talked about that?

00:34:21.100 Is that where we're at?

00:34:21.940 Okay.

00:34:22.360 That's where we're at.

00:34:23.240 Anything else about that?

00:34:24.780 No, I mean, it just shows Nicole dropping her off, but her not walking up.

00:34:29.360 And it shows me going to my truck up.

00:34:30.500 At the time, that's all Joe left.

00:34:32.880 Okay.

00:34:33.340 Now, as you guys could tell, your boy Chris Watts is saying a bunch of BS, right?

00:34:38.020 And the detective knows this.

00:34:39.560 But you guys got to remember, when you're doing a criminal investigation, right, and you're

00:34:43.900 interviewing a suspect, your goal is to get them to talk as much as possible without

00:34:47.460 saying, I want a lawyer or I don't want to talk or I'm going to invoke the Fifth Amendment

00:34:50.760 and stay silent.

00:34:51.740 You want them to talk.

00:34:52.960 And for them to continue talking, you want to limit confrontation until you get some kind

00:34:57.540 of story.

00:34:58.380 Okay?

00:34:58.980 So this is how an interview typically goes.

00:35:00.640 When I used to interrogate my suspects, et cetera, you come in, you introduce yourself

00:35:05.280 and you want to be as chill as possible.

00:35:08.220 Okay?

00:35:08.920 You want to introduce yourself, shoot the shit about random stuff, see what they're interested

00:35:12.900 in.

00:35:13.260 You literally have a conversation as if you guys are like friends.

00:35:16.640 Okay?

00:35:17.040 That's how it's got to be.

00:35:17.920 You got to build rapport with the individual first.

00:35:19.620 It's not what you guys see in the movie.

00:35:20.980 Come in with a dark light or in a dark ass room.

00:35:23.860 They're sitting by themselves and you got the spotlight.

00:35:26.260 Hey, tell me what I need to know.

00:35:27.900 Oh, bong.

00:35:28.360 And you slap him.

00:35:28.980 No, it's not any of that, guys.

00:35:30.220 Okay?

00:35:30.440 You don't hit the suspect with the Shoryukins, at least in the beginning.

00:35:35.740 So you got to go ahead and build rapport with the individual.

00:35:38.660 And this takes some time.

00:35:39.640 And a big part of that is you got to let them just talk.

00:35:42.220 Okay?

00:35:42.760 Because when people are talking, what ends up happening is they get more comfortable talking

00:35:45.820 and they might disclose certain facts or, well, they might disclose certain things that

00:35:49.860 are lies.

00:35:50.460 And that's good for you as the investigator because when you go into the interview, you

00:35:54.440 already know a bunch of the facts.

00:35:55.520 Like this detective, I can already tell he's watched the body cam footage.

00:35:57.980 He knows that Watts has been acting very strange and he's trying to figure out where his headspace

00:36:03.700 is at.

00:36:04.100 Right?

00:36:04.260 So the first interview, a lot of the times, right, or at least in the beginning, if it's

00:36:09.120 going to be a longer interview, is you're going to shut up and let the guy talk because you

00:36:12.360 don't want him to lawyer up and you don't want him to invoke his Fifth Amendment right

00:36:15.380 to silence.

00:36:16.780 All right?

00:36:17.700 That way you can at least get some kind of story.

00:36:20.040 And then your job as the investigator is to punch holes in that story or confirm it's

00:36:24.520 true through the independent evidence that you gain through the investigation that either

00:36:28.580 corroborates or does not corroborate the information that the suspect gave you.

00:36:34.260 That's why he's kind of shutting up quite a bit here.

00:36:42.180 And he's not, he waited until what?

00:36:45.080 An hour in, right?

00:36:47.220 To ask this.

00:36:54.120 So when I work with investigations like this, I have to keep an open mind on everything.

00:36:58.980 And I know you guys said you want subtitles.

00:37:08.900 This video, unfortunately, doesn't have them.

00:37:10.400 But, you know, as the detective is talking, you can see him now.

00:37:12.500 So he's applying something in the form of a question.

00:37:26.620 So he's applying something in the form of a question.

00:37:40.640 And it kind of throws the person for a loop because they're like, oh, wait, how do I answer

00:37:45.160 this?

00:37:45.340 And they might get tripped up when you apply something within a question.

00:37:49.260 I know.

00:37:50.780 It's like people that if people knew that we were having marrow issues, they're going to

00:37:56.340 look at me, especially with the way everything looks.

00:37:59.360 It honestly just makes me sick to my stomach because this is something that I would never

00:38:03.700 do.

00:38:05.700 Ever.

00:38:06.220 I know, like, you have to look at every vantage point.

00:38:13.340 This is something I would never do to my kids or my wife.

00:38:16.840 At all.

00:38:23.000 And notice how the detective, right, purposely is sitting there quietly and lets the awkward

00:38:30.920 silence do the work for him.

00:38:32.220 OK, and what that's going to do is that's going to prompt the suspect to talk more, to

00:38:39.020 fill the void.

00:38:40.340 OK, because they know.

00:38:42.700 All right.

00:38:43.240 I did this.

00:38:45.080 There may be no that I'm onto it.

00:38:47.000 They might be onto me or not.

00:38:48.720 Let me fill this awkward silence.

00:38:50.760 And it prompts the individual to talk more.

00:38:52.560 Because remember, like I told you before, the first interview or the beginning part of

00:38:55.580 the interview is always important to get a statement.

00:38:58.440 OK, even if it's a lie, it helps you.

00:39:00.460 Matter of fact, that statement is how if you guys look at it, statements with contradictory

00:39:05.980 evidence can work to really get you sealed up.

00:39:09.200 The Murdoch case that is going down in South Carolina right now that this guy just got sentenced

00:39:12.800 for a big part of the investigation is circumstantial because he lied.

00:39:17.880 Oh, I wasn't at the kennels.

00:39:19.140 Right.

00:39:19.600 When he really was.

00:39:20.440 And that was a big part of evidence because because his whole defense was contingent upon

00:39:26.680 him not being there.

00:39:27.520 But then the Snapchats revealed that he was actually there.

00:39:29.740 We might end up breaking down that case for y'all.

00:39:31.720 I'm going to go ahead and do a poll during this podcast.

00:39:34.460 But you guys get the idea.

00:39:35.820 So they want to go ahead and elicit as much information as possible, because even when

00:39:39.940 they lie, it's still worth something because you're able to go ahead and blow that lie through

00:39:43.740 the water with the evidence that you do find.

00:39:49.620 This is what is known as the pause technique.

00:39:52.280 After the suspect answers a question, the interrogator will remain silent while maintaining

00:39:56.880 eye contact.

00:39:57.920 This physical demeanor gives off the subtle cue that he expects more information to be divulged

00:40:02.920 and may already know more than the suspect realizes.

00:40:08.840 I'm not sure, like, what I...

00:40:11.340 Bam.

00:40:11.820 Gotcha, bitch!

00:40:12.400 And he has to talk more because he's like, oh, did that not work?

00:40:16.660 To make people believe that, just because if they didn't do or have a marital discord,

00:40:22.320 they would automatically look at me.

00:40:24.060 But there's no out-harm anybody in my family.

00:40:28.960 At all.

00:40:36.560 Stay quiet, man.

00:40:39.400 Stop the cap.

00:40:40.200 The cap is just like, come on, bro.

00:40:42.400 I know we were having a marital discord, and we had that conversation that morning, and

00:40:47.560 then she goes, and we have no idea where she is.

00:40:51.520 I promise you, I promise you, I have nothing to do with any of that.

00:40:59.280 Hey, guys, well, this detective continues grilling this dude and making him staying silent.

00:41:15.220 Do me a favor, guys.

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00:41:23.220 Please smash that like button, guys.

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00:41:29.060 Like the video.

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00:41:34.020 I genuinely do this channel because I enjoy it.

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00:41:43.240 like this, because there ain't nobody else on YouTube that was a former special agent

00:41:47.260 actually breaking down these cases for you guys from a professional background.

00:41:50.860 You know, I'm not one of these bimbos putting makeup on my face while I talk about

00:41:53.520 Jeffrey Dahmer or any of that other crap.

00:41:55.100 I'm giving y'all real deal experience type breakdowns, man.

00:41:59.060 So like the video, man.

00:42:00.180 Subscribe to the channel.

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00:42:02.380 And also, check out Angie on Instagram.

00:42:04.300 It's soangelica with two A's at the end.

00:42:06.760 All right?

00:42:07.140 So send your dick pics there.

00:42:07.980 I'm sure she likes them.

00:42:08.520 No.

00:42:13.860 Are you telling me the truth?

00:42:15.260 I'm telling you.

00:42:16.020 Absolutely.

00:42:18.500 Why should I believe you?

00:42:20.120 A truthful individual will normally respond to this question with a question, such as,

00:42:24.800 why are you asking me that?

00:42:26.140 Or, what's going on here?

00:42:27.720 They will often protest the aggressive nature of the Inquisition.

00:42:30.860 Or give a short and forceful response.

00:42:33.240 Because I'm a very trustworthy person.

00:42:35.420 And the people that do know me, they know how I'm a calm person.

00:42:39.660 I am not an argumentative person.

00:42:42.300 I am a person who is never going to be abusive or physical in any kind of relationship.

00:42:49.640 I will never harm my kids.

00:42:51.500 I will never harm my wife.

00:42:52.760 I mean, you can talk to any of my friends.

00:42:57.180 Any of her friends.

00:42:59.000 They know me.

00:43:00.000 They know I'm a low-key guy that's quiet.

00:43:04.520 I'm not about confrontation.

00:43:06.760 I'm not about anything that elevates to that level.

00:43:13.280 I mean, if someone yells at me, screams at me, I just take it.

00:43:17.980 And I just try to get it by the wayside and get it back to where it's a cool conversation

00:43:23.880 to where, like, none of that gets to that height.

00:43:27.040 And I am not that.

00:43:27.900 Look at how long it takes him to give a response to, are you lying?

00:43:31.840 I mean, it should be a simple, uh...

00:43:33.440 Nope.

00:43:33.740 I've never been that person.

00:43:37.640 I've never been that person.

00:43:39.060 Now, let me show you guys what it looks like when you are getting falsely accused, all right?

00:43:48.640 This right here is an example.

00:43:51.240 See, this guy ends up getting arrested, I think, for a burglary or something like that.

00:43:54.900 And the detectives bring him in.

00:43:56.440 I want you guys to see the stark difference.

00:43:58.380 Break in and steal a multitude of valuable items.

00:44:01.620 The detective then explains that she picked him out of a 12-picture lineup of suspects.

00:44:05.980 She says you broke in this apartment.

00:44:10.620 Look at the difference between when someone is innocent versus when they're guilty.

00:44:13.340 Okay, well, tell me why.

00:44:14.980 Justin is now aware of the burglary charge,

00:44:17.360 which holds a possible 20-year prison sentence due to previous convictions.

00:44:21.600 He will now begin to forcefully assert his innocence.

00:44:24.260 And each time he does so, will bring forward his posture

00:44:27.040 and strengthen his vocal emphasis while making the assertion.

00:44:30.560 All right, so, I mean, she's saying that I was there before?

00:44:33.840 Is that what she's saying?

00:44:34.620 She's saying she's seen my face before the act, before the break-in happened?

00:44:37.880 Yep.

00:44:40.880 I didn't break in her house.

00:44:42.500 I don't know who she is.

00:44:44.060 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:44:45.880 I don't know no girl named Candy.

00:44:47.720 None of this here, man.

00:44:49.420 Why is she saying that you're...

00:44:51.160 I don't know why she's saying she's...

00:44:52.620 I don't know why.

00:44:53.060 I don't know.

00:44:53.700 What were you doing there?

00:44:54.940 I was not there.

00:44:57.040 I was not...

00:44:57.720 I don't know this girl Candy.

00:44:59.620 I was not there.

00:45:00.460 The only Candy that I even heard of is this guy I know named Tim Stahl dates her.

00:45:06.220 The person he just mentioned was the accuser's ex-boyfriend.

00:45:09.820 Okay.

00:45:10.420 That's it.

00:45:11.720 How do you know Tim Stahl?

00:45:12.800 I grew up with the dude, man.

00:45:14.320 The accuser's testimony was later picked apart in court.

00:45:17.480 She was caught lying on the stand multiple times, and Justin was exonerated.

00:45:21.800 He was proven...

00:45:22.460 False accusations, man.

00:45:23.900 What do I tell y'all, bro?

00:45:25.000 Stop the show.

00:45:26.440 This is why women deserve less.

00:45:27.900 Book's in store...

00:45:28.680 Book in stores right now.

00:45:29.800 Okay?

00:45:30.380 Hardcover, paperback, Kindle.

00:45:34.060 Audio version coming soon.

00:45:35.900 But this is an example, guys, of someone that is innocent.

00:45:38.100 As you guys can see, he's actually challenging the detectives back.

00:45:41.260 He's not trying to comply with them.

00:45:42.440 He's like, no, I didn't do this.

00:45:43.880 This is bullshit.

00:45:44.980 Okay?

00:45:45.760 An innocent, not just beyond all reasonable doubt, but essentially beyond all doubt.

00:45:50.340 The last thing I heard about them two, she had them arrested for domestic violence.

00:45:56.980 That's all I know about this girl, Candy.

00:45:59.620 I ain't never went in that girl's house, none of that shit.

00:46:02.340 I didn't do that shit.

00:46:04.700 I didn't.

00:46:05.180 As God as my fucking witness, I did not do it.

00:46:08.520 And here's the other thing, too.

00:46:09.320 The police probably went ahead and looked at her criminal history and saw, oh, damn,

00:46:12.480 she did get arrested for domestic violence.

00:46:14.340 So little things like that add credibility to what the individual is saying.

00:46:17.520 It used to be a piece of shit.

00:46:19.440 When I got out of the fucking attention, I told myself I wasn't going back.

00:46:22.020 I ain't done enough work, my fucking ass off.

00:46:24.000 They talked to him up and down.

00:46:25.600 Can you prove, other than you saying you're not, is it, that morning, what can you tell,

00:46:31.140 how can you prove to me that you were at home?

00:46:34.640 All you gotta do is call and ask my mother.

00:46:36.340 So you're telling me you didn't step foot out of the house?

00:46:40.660 Not born at foot.

00:46:42.000 Tuesday.

00:46:42.740 Not born.

00:46:43.360 The detective then goes on to reveal Justin is accused of assaulting the supposed victim

00:46:48.900 during the robbery.

00:46:50.040 Take advantage of me.

00:46:50.680 Now look at his reaction to this.

00:46:52.520 Here, and you hit her over the head with it, and you guys fight.

00:46:56.340 And she got injuries.

00:46:58.160 No, man.

00:46:59.020 And hell no, man.

00:47:00.640 Get her goddamn boyfriend.

00:47:01.900 Tim's going to be questioning him about her goddamn injuries.

00:47:04.600 Look at that straight right there.

00:47:06.440 This sounds like he's a goddamn...

00:47:07.360 So as you guys can see from his body language, right, not only does he refute the accusation

00:47:12.460 directly, but he goes ahead and names the potential possible suspect instead, okay?

00:47:18.060 Now I know some of y'all might be saying, oh, that's blah, blah, blah.

00:47:20.200 Hey, man, look, you're getting accused of a serious felony, and this guy had just gotten

00:47:24.320 out of prison too, trying to get his life straight, et cetera.

00:47:26.920 You're going to go ahead and be like, that ain't me right there.

00:47:29.300 It's this guy, right?

00:47:30.600 So this all adds more credibility, and the fact that he's directly challenging the detective's

00:47:36.040 evidence and or testimony, whatever, right, shows he's innocent versus you guys have seen

00:47:41.020 us do breakdowns on other interrogations where when the detective accuses them, right, they

00:47:46.900 give some lengthy-ass explanation.

00:47:48.660 Oh, no, I didn't do it, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:47:50.180 No, this guy's like, no, it ain't me.

00:47:51.700 He's taking it at face value.

00:47:53.600 I think her boyfriend, Tim Stahl, done fucking done something to her, and now they're trying

00:47:58.520 to put it on me.

00:47:59.300 That's exactly- I know that's what the fuck this is.

00:48:05.540 And look, that's why we're talking to you, okay?

00:48:07.620 No, this is bullshit, man, because I'm trying everything in my fucking power to stay the

00:48:10.740 fuck out of this goddamn fucking penitentiary shit.

00:48:13.200 I did not do that shit, man.

00:48:14.920 Okay.

00:48:16.240 That's why we're talking to you.

00:48:17.260 We're here to investigate this, okay?

00:48:22.320 That's why we're asking all these questions.

00:48:24.980 I'm sorry to freak you out, man, but I didn't fucking do this shit, man.

00:48:27.700 I'm fucking shaking.

00:48:29.760 I did not fucking do this, man.

00:48:31.320 Justin had already served three years in prison for a robbery in his early 20s.

00:48:36.240 He more than likely knew the reassuring tone of the investigator wasn't a good sign.

00:48:40.900 Although slightly more animated than the average person, this form of aggression is a commonplace

00:48:45.860 response from the innocent being directly accused.

00:48:48.600 He comes off aggressive, but in a defensive manner.

00:48:51.640 He is not being hostile, but highly combative when professing his innocence.

00:48:55.760 His conduct is totally justified considering the circumstance.

00:48:59.360 When facing a considerable amount of time in prison for something you didn't do, this

00:49:03.400 level of anger is warranted.

00:49:05.160 So when compared to the forgiving composure of Michael...

00:49:07.780 So there you go, guys.

00:49:08.720 So that's an example of confronting the evidence head on when you know you're innocent, right?

00:49:13.040 And you guys notice here, your boy Chris Watts ain't doing none of that.

00:49:17.600 He's been going for a minute long plus talking about it wasn't him.

00:49:23.760 And the detective's just like, come on, man.

00:49:33.080 See the difference?

00:49:34.480 See the difference between the two individuals?

00:49:37.040 Would you take a polygraph?

00:49:39.300 Sure.

00:49:40.160 Okay.

00:49:40.400 Let's take a little break.

00:49:44.160 I'm going to come back in here.

00:49:46.180 Because I have a lot more questions for you.

00:49:50.960 How are you feeling?

00:49:52.620 Looking at that picture.

00:50:03.620 I can't find him.

00:50:07.340 Okay.

00:50:10.400 Celeste.

00:50:17.140 She's rampage.

00:50:18.400 She's always the one that's...

00:50:19.960 She's gung-ho.

00:50:21.360 She's always the one that's just like...

00:50:23.860 She's either go or sleep.

00:50:26.880 She's always long growling.

00:50:28.160 She's...

00:50:28.580 She's always been...

00:50:30.080 She's a tiger.

00:50:32.140 Bella.

00:50:33.000 She's the calm.

00:50:34.040 The mothering one.

00:50:35.080 She's the one that's always...

00:50:36.980 You okay?

00:50:37.780 You okay?

00:50:38.320 You fine?

00:50:39.000 Okay.

00:50:41.100 She's just...

00:50:41.900 She's just a sweetest little girl.

00:50:43.120 She's the one that favors me more.

00:50:45.500 Celeste is the one that favors me more.

00:50:47.620 You guys can see how hard he's acting.

00:50:55.900 You know, to trying to...

00:50:57.180 Push some kind of sorrow.

00:50:58.760 But it's Cap.

00:50:59.240 I don't remember when they wore that dress.

00:51:08.260 She just wore that dress for too long ago.

00:51:13.380 It sounded about in the back of it so I could...

00:51:16.260 Get her pajamas on.

00:51:17.500 She's like, no, daddy.

00:51:18.140 I'm like, I'm like, I'm like.

00:51:20.880 I'm done a lot of those spaghetti strap dresses.

00:51:23.140 What?

00:51:23.320 She likes long dresses.

00:51:25.400 What the fuck?

00:51:26.080 She was a girly girl.

00:51:36.740 All right.

00:51:37.280 So that ends part one of it, guys.

00:51:38.620 You guys can see here all kinds of Cap.

00:51:41.240 We're going to go into part two here.

00:51:42.480 But before we do part two, where it takes the polygraph,

00:51:45.000 a.k.a. commonly known as the lie detector,

00:51:46.720 we're going ahead and hit some of these chats real fast.

00:51:50.300 So we got here Morgan Jones goes,

00:51:54.100 W. Fred Myron, awesome breakdown.

00:51:55.320 I like Angie.

00:51:55.960 Shout out to you, Morgan Jones.

00:51:57.820 J.R. Choi.

00:51:58.540 Shout out to you, J.R.

00:51:59.140 Goes, I sound like the most interesting guy at work

00:52:01.600 Monday morning after watching an episode of Fed It.

00:52:03.320 Hey, that's what's up, baby.

00:52:04.880 We got Carisha M.

00:52:06.640 Goes, Myron, have you ever shot anyone when you were an agent?

00:52:08.820 No, never have.

00:52:10.960 RealTalk621 goes, bro, do you think Tate, of all people,

00:52:13.360 would continue to smoke if he had a clue he might have lung cancer?

00:52:15.900 He's all about his health and working out, bro.

00:52:17.560 He said he would never commit self-deletion.

00:52:21.100 So smoking and cancer is next.

00:52:22.880 Understandable.

00:52:23.620 Michael Meestroke, $1.

00:52:24.400 Thank you so much.

00:52:25.600 J. World goes, man's got that school principal edge up.

00:52:28.000 Yeah.

00:52:31.300 Let's see here.

00:52:32.020 I think John Doe, Chris has updated status to widow children.

00:52:35.460 Not anymore.

00:52:36.020 Okay.

00:52:37.620 We got here.

00:52:38.360 Jose, do a slow-mo spin, Angie.

00:52:40.440 Come on, man.

00:52:41.000 What?

00:52:42.020 He wants you to stand up.

00:52:42.740 I drilled those wells that those tanks were used for.

00:52:46.860 Man, this hits close to home.

00:52:48.480 Actually, yeah.

00:52:48.880 Colorado Roughneck, you work at the place where he dumped the bodies.

00:52:54.500 I remember he got on map.

00:52:57.060 Yeah.

00:52:57.220 All right.

00:52:57.500 So let's go ahead and pull it up real fast.

00:52:59.140 Okay.

00:52:59.880 Shout out to Angie pulling this up.

00:53:02.700 So this is where it was, Angie?

00:53:05.040 This is...

00:53:06.500 Hang on.

00:53:07.740 Yeah.

00:53:07.980 This was like a few miles from where they lived.

00:53:10.440 Okay.

00:53:11.540 Give me one sec.

00:53:12.480 Okay.

00:53:12.780 So this is where our boy Colorado Roughneck is at, pretty much.

00:53:16.160 Yeah.

00:53:16.780 So you can see the map here.

00:53:20.000 They will live in Boulder.

00:53:22.180 So...

00:53:23.220 Hang on.

00:53:25.100 Man.

00:53:25.920 Damn.

00:53:26.180 Out in the middle of nowhere, bro.

00:53:27.320 Nowhere.

00:53:28.020 Yeah.

00:53:28.420 Okay.

00:53:28.900 So those are...

00:53:29.420 Okay.

00:53:29.840 There it is.

00:53:30.620 All right.

00:53:31.380 And it was these tanks right here?

00:53:33.060 Yeah.

00:53:33.400 Yeah.

00:53:33.780 Okay.

00:53:34.080 That's where he dumped his family.

00:53:35.420 Incredible, bro.

00:53:36.120 And he like buried his wife like around here.

00:53:39.560 Boom, Bucca!

00:53:41.300 All right.

00:53:42.100 Jason Burris goes,

00:53:43.340 Myron, will you do one about the Pain and Gain crew as well as the Bling Ring crew?

00:53:48.160 Maybe.

00:53:49.160 Is Robert Pickton on that list?

00:53:51.700 Angie Amara, Canada's biggest serial killer, fed 49 prosecutors to his hogs on his pig farm?

00:53:56.500 No.

00:53:57.200 You don't have that on the list?

00:53:57.940 No.

00:53:58.720 Has people asked for that one?

00:54:00.040 No.

00:54:00.620 That's the first time I heard.

00:54:01.020 This is the first time.

00:54:02.040 Robert Pickton, I guess the biggest Canadian serial killer.

00:54:04.680 And then...

00:54:05.600 Actually, I have it.

00:54:06.760 Oh, you do have it?

00:54:07.560 Yeah.

00:54:07.900 Yeah.

00:54:08.100 Here it is.

00:54:08.940 Robert Pickton.

00:54:09.580 And Canada's most prolific serial killer.

00:54:12.160 Okay.

00:54:12.620 So he's the Zodiac Killer of Canada, pretty much.

00:54:15.480 Because I would say the top serial killer in the United States by far, that everyone

00:54:18.880 is most famous, is between the Zodiac Killer and Ted Bundy.

00:54:23.980 Michael Fratello goes,

00:54:25.240 Picked up a copy of Why Women Deserve Less.

00:54:26.800 Flew through it.

00:54:27.200 Great read.

00:54:27.580 Great content.

00:54:28.100 We also need to ban family anthill raiders.

00:54:30.540 Okay.

00:54:30.980 Appreciate that.

00:54:31.620 So, and then, so far, your book is a good read.

00:54:36.020 Girlfriend reading a 2W.

00:54:37.240 Oh, I appreciate that, man.

00:54:38.300 Guys, do me a quick favor, because the Matrix is definitely trying to attack the book.

00:54:41.760 Like the...

00:54:42.540 Leave a five-star review on Amazon.

00:54:44.660 I would really appreciate that if y'all could.

00:54:46.940 And then we got here, Miami-Dade Police.

00:54:48.800 Haven't enjoyed myself so much since we caught that Ted Bundy guy.

00:54:51.040 Yo, man.

00:54:57.020 Yo, man.

00:54:57.720 Where are these people getting profiles?

00:54:58.780 Yeah, you guys are fucking hilarious, bro.

00:55:01.040 Like the government profiles.

00:55:02.320 Yo, they make government accounts.

00:55:04.240 Someone, someone, Myron Rand saved my life.

00:55:06.040 That's what it's about, baby.

00:55:06.960 Yeah, no.

00:55:07.740 They make government accounts like the IRS comments in when the girls talk about how

00:55:11.280 much money they make from Sims.

00:55:12.840 They're like, hey.

00:55:13.740 The IRS is like, hey, you bitches better pay me my half.

00:55:19.160 Yeah, man.

00:55:19.840 Yo, the chat is undefeated.

00:55:21.820 And then let's see here.

00:55:23.420 El Magico goes, yo, Myron, keep dropping all the fire content for us.

00:55:26.360 Your book, Why Women Deserve Less, is a must-read for every man.

00:55:28.520 Free the Tates.

00:55:29.300 Women should read it, too, man.

00:55:30.220 It's not just about...

00:55:31.120 It's really about not being a simp.

00:55:32.800 Supreme Elvis, $1.

00:55:33.900 Appreciate that.

00:55:35.000 And then, yeah, y'all see it in the chat.

00:55:36.340 Miami-Dade PDW.

00:55:37.340 Yeah, facts.

00:55:40.020 That's a funny thing.

00:55:42.620 All right.

00:55:42.820 So we'll get back into it, guys.

00:55:43.880 We're going to go ahead and go into the second part of the Chris Watts case.

00:55:49.780 And again, this is from JCS, guys.

00:55:51.100 Go ahead and like their video.

00:55:52.120 Subscribe to their channel.

00:55:52.820 You see I am.

00:55:53.700 Show them some love.

00:55:54.720 And then we got 941 likes, and we got 1,800 plus y'all in here.

00:55:58.680 Guys, get us to at least...

00:56:00.820 We should easily be at 1,500 likes, man.

00:56:02.880 Okay?

00:56:03.480 Let's get the engagement up.

00:56:04.680 So videos like this hit the algorithm more.

00:56:07.260 And, yeah, without further ado, you have anything, Angie, before we get into the second part?

00:56:10.680 No, not really.

00:56:11.540 All right.

00:56:11.820 Let's get into it.

00:56:20.020 I'm going to find him, right?

00:56:23.600 I need your help.

00:56:24.380 Will we find the guy who took him?

00:56:35.840 What do you think we should do?

00:56:36.960 This is what is known as a behavior-provoking question.

00:56:42.180 An innocent person will usually give what is known as a draconian response.

00:56:46.300 They will immediately respond with the harshest sentence possible for the crime they are falsely

00:56:50.740 being accused of committing.

00:56:51.900 A deceptive individual will often give an equivocating response.

00:56:56.040 This means that they will fragmentize and divert from the question to a certain degree

00:57:00.280 as a means to avoid responding to the query in its entirety.

00:57:03.900 They're going to come home safe, correct?

00:57:06.380 When you find the guy.

00:57:08.020 When we find the guy, they're going to come home.

00:57:13.060 Life in prison?

00:57:14.480 Would be the...

00:57:15.680 That's what I would think with two kids that are involved.

00:57:21.900 And that's important, guys.

00:57:23.220 So rising annotation at the end of the statement, seeking approval.

00:57:25.780 This happens a lot of the times with liars, right?

00:57:28.040 So whenever you're telling a lie, you'll phrase something in a way where you're seeking

00:57:34.920 the individual that's questioning you's approval.

00:57:36.720 This is like when you lie to your parents, right?

00:57:38.240 Like your mom will say, did you eat the cookies?

00:57:40.940 And you're like, no, I didn't.

00:57:43.640 They should be there, right?

00:57:45.080 Versus, yo, I didn't eat the cookies.

00:57:47.160 No, it wasn't me.

00:57:48.420 It was fucking, you know, the dog.

00:57:50.600 It wasn't me.

00:57:51.100 But when you raise your voice in a certain way, you're saying it in a more passive manner

00:57:56.020 and you're seeking the approval of the accuser.

00:57:58.500 That's what he's doing in this interrogation, which is a big red flag for someone that is

00:58:03.560 lying.

00:58:04.220 Yeah.

00:58:04.460 See, if you also compare these interrogations with the one that you just put here, for

00:58:09.340 an example.

00:58:10.180 Oh, with the right there guy?

00:58:11.380 We're going to call him the right there guy.

00:58:13.180 The right what?

00:58:13.840 Right there.

00:58:14.600 There.

00:58:14.980 Yeah, that's like how people from like St. Louis talk like Nelly.

00:58:17.880 Okay.

00:58:18.180 I like the way she do it right there that like, I don't know if you ever heard that

00:58:21.340 song, but no, you know, somebody, you know, if you guys know what I'm talking about in

00:58:25.800 the chat, you throw on that Nelly.

00:58:27.220 That's how we'd be talking.

00:58:27.960 But sorry.

00:58:28.240 Go ahead.

00:58:28.540 Right.

00:58:30.280 Oh, yeah.

00:58:30.840 Chingy.

00:58:31.180 I said Nelly.

00:58:31.720 What the fuck?

00:58:32.100 Yeah.

00:58:32.260 Chingy.

00:58:32.560 Sorry, guys.

00:58:33.020 Yeah.

00:58:33.180 But Nelly be talking like that, too.

00:58:35.580 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:58:37.900 But so if you compare this case and also the all the cases that we've done so far, Casey

00:58:43.600 Anthony, Corny Cleaney, Dalia DiPolito, even the Daniel Prince one, they are all like

00:58:49.480 you can tell they're all guilty as fuck.

00:58:52.240 So they will have like this type of behavior as well.

00:58:55.700 Yeah.

00:58:56.600 Opposite to the guy that you split as an example.

00:58:58.840 Yeah.

00:58:59.280 Which is cool, though, because he's like Casey Anthony as a man.

00:59:02.060 And like this great sweat guy.

00:59:04.280 Fair enough.

00:59:05.320 All right.

00:59:05.720 Let's get back into it now.

00:59:07.020 Part two.

00:59:08.480 What if he hurt them?

00:59:16.140 I'm not sure if like that penalty is even used as a youth in Colorado.

00:59:21.660 I'm not even sure what it's a death penalty.

00:59:24.200 Okay.

00:59:24.400 I mean, like if these kids are not alive, like there's no, there's nothing you can do to

00:59:30.820 cope with that, to make me cope with that.

00:59:35.400 If these kids aren't alive, wouldn't a normal person say if my children aren't alive, like

00:59:41.200 see, see how he's already distancing himself from the crime with his words?

00:59:46.580 Because in his head, he's like, okay, I want to distance myself from this action.

00:59:49.920 So he's already exemplifying that through the way he conveys himself and speaks to this

00:59:53.520 detective.

00:59:53.880 If those kids are not okay.

00:59:58.880 If those kids are not okay.

01:00:00.340 Bruh, those are your seeds.

01:00:02.220 Guys, these are his biological children, by the way.

01:00:04.160 These are not stepchildren.

01:00:06.140 What the hell?

01:00:09.800 Can we keep talking about some complication?

01:00:12.720 Some things that are going to make you uncomfortable?

01:00:15.280 Yeah, that's fine.

01:00:15.780 Okay.

01:00:16.460 You've done.

01:00:16.780 All right.

01:00:16.880 We got subtitles, by the way, guys.

01:00:18.160 Don't worry.

01:00:18.940 On this one, we got the subtitles.

01:00:22.100 All right.

01:00:22.300 Very good at talking to me about this really hard conversation you guys had.

01:00:27.080 Okay.

01:00:27.720 Very good.

01:00:28.660 That's sometimes hard.

01:00:30.040 And I understand why sometimes someone in your position says, doesn't want to tell me

01:00:35.980 about that.

01:00:36.860 Because please go help me find my kids.

01:00:38.980 And you don't need to know about my marriage argument.

01:00:41.900 Okay.

01:00:42.420 So I got to say, you've done very good at that.

01:00:44.840 And I need you to keep doing that.

01:00:46.720 So I need to ask you about your marriage and infidelity.

01:00:53.340 Okay.

01:00:53.940 Tell me about it.

01:00:54.740 Oh, here we go.

01:00:56.920 If she catch me cheating, I'll never tell her sorry.

01:00:59.060 Let's see what he says.

01:01:00.680 I have never cheated on my wife.

01:01:03.520 Stop the cat.

01:01:04.360 And I fully suspect she has never done that to me.

01:01:08.400 Oh, okay.

01:01:08.880 The interrogator was already aware that Chris was cheating on his wife with a woman by the

01:01:13.900 name of Nicole Kessinger.

01:01:15.340 He had handed over his phone earlier on this interview for what he thought was for the

01:01:21.640 purpose of going through his and his wife's mutual contacts to look for potential suspects.

01:01:26.380 Judging by Chris's bold-faced denial, it's safe to assume he deleted all of his correspondence

01:01:31.760 with Nicole beforehand.

01:01:33.380 Yet he was most likely unaware that the FBI have programs that can recover every single

01:01:38.720 piece of digital exchange sent from a device, even long after it's deleted.

01:01:43.680 Oh, shit.

01:01:44.580 Bruh.

01:01:45.940 FBI, open up!

01:01:47.120 Because they're getting in that phone, baby.

01:01:48.980 I have a trained investigator over here, Brian.

01:01:51.720 I see pictures of you from a few years.

01:01:53.820 And I can tell you guys this from my personal professional experience.

01:01:56.740 When I was an agent, if I got, right, when you get a phone from an individual, there's

01:02:00.420 two ways you can go through it.

01:02:01.380 A, they give you consent, or B, you get a search warrant.

01:02:04.140 And when you go through the phone, you have a certified forensic agent, right, or a CFA

01:02:08.300 for short, you have them go through the phone.

01:02:10.260 They can 100% extract all the deleted files from the phone and extract deleted text messages,

01:02:17.500 pictures, et cetera.

01:02:18.960 Because there's a bunch of metadata that's left from when a phone is...

01:02:23.820 When things are deleted off of a phone.

01:02:25.700 So nothing is really safe like that when investigators get a hold of your phone.

01:02:29.580 So him deleting those text messages, quite frankly...

01:02:32.420 You stupid.

01:02:33.400 It ain't gonna...

01:02:34.060 It's not gonna help.

01:02:36.200 But this is another example of a criminal thinking that they're smarter than they really

01:02:38.980 are.

01:02:39.520 Guys, also, we got 1,900 of y'all in the chat.

01:02:41.700 Guys, do me a favor.

01:02:42.940 Like the video.

01:02:43.600 It could be anywhere else in the world right now.

01:02:44.760 But you guys are on here Sunday night.

01:02:46.380 I fed it with me and Angie.

01:02:47.500 Thank you for being here.

01:02:48.340 Yes.

01:02:48.980 Just like the video.

01:02:49.840 That's all we ask.

01:02:50.360 Let's get to 1,900 likes so that we can get the engagement almost to 100%.

01:02:53.720 You got to trust me.

01:03:21.740 Wait, what?

01:03:22.840 Boom, Bokka!

01:03:23.840 And then also, I don't know if you guys caught it, but that was a very loaded question.

01:03:28.940 He said, what's gonna help me make you not be the guy that looks bad walking out of this

01:03:34.500 room?

01:03:34.900 Basically, what he wants him to do is say, all right, give me your story on why you're

01:03:40.720 not the person that did this.

01:03:42.580 Right?

01:03:42.720 Because he isn't really giving a story.

01:03:43.960 He's just saying, I would never do this.

01:03:45.380 But he's not giving a concrete story.

01:03:46.620 The detective wants to pin him down on some kind of story so he could come back and challenge

01:03:51.600 him with evidence later on that's irrefutable.

01:03:53.300 With this act of, like, evil cruelty, whatever has happened here.

01:03:59.660 Because my love for these two girls and my wife, like, I don't want anything to happen

01:04:04.880 to them.

01:04:05.480 I've never wanted anything to happen to them.

01:04:08.580 No matter if me and my wife separate or not, or divorce or anything, I never wish harm

01:04:14.440 on anybody, on a human being in general.

01:04:17.380 Okay.

01:04:17.860 Like, just seeing that picture, like, I need them, I want them just to run through that

01:04:23.860 front door and just grab me, or just bear or just tackle me, knock me to the floor, bust

01:04:28.000 my head off, I don't care.

01:04:30.800 The amount of love I have for my family is exponential, and it's never going to die.

01:04:36.840 And they need, I want them back.

01:04:39.400 Okay.

01:04:40.580 I have to have them back.

01:04:41.900 L acting.

01:04:45.820 Wow.

01:04:47.560 W copying.

01:04:48.580 Yeah.

01:04:55.860 When you walk out of this room, there's nothing I can say to a room full of police officers

01:05:01.340 that's going to convince them that you have nothing to do with this.

01:05:05.540 I know.

01:05:06.100 You know what they think.

01:05:07.380 I know what I'll do.

01:05:09.120 Here's a guy who didn't call 911.

01:05:11.900 Who woke his wife up at a ridiculous hour, because he was so guilty about something that

01:05:18.620 he had to get it off his chest and say, I don't love you anymore, I'm leaving.

01:05:23.360 That didn't go well.

01:05:24.420 Okay, so what happened?

01:05:29.640 She told me she wanted to wake her up before I left.

01:05:33.200 That's why I didn't just wake her up, like, just to tell her this.

01:05:37.600 Like, I woke her up.

01:05:39.300 That's what she wanted to do, and we talked.

01:05:41.200 Usually, at 4 a.m., I wake up, I go down and work out to say, I wanted to talk to her about this.

01:05:47.840 So what is he doing?

01:06:03.740 Again, upping the pressure, making him feel extremely uncomfortable.

01:06:06.800 And you can see it in Chris Watt's hands here, how he's kind of holding himself here.

01:06:10.320 This is something that someone does when they're typically agitated, right, or very uncomfortable,

01:06:13.960 which, remember, the detective, he's playing a game here.

01:06:16.720 He's confronting him.

01:06:17.920 He has a picture there of his family.

01:06:20.420 He's standing in, he's sitting in between Watt's and the door.

01:06:23.660 He's giving the silence treatment.

01:06:25.260 So it makes Watt's do what?

01:06:27.220 Feel as though he's need to talk more and further dig himself in the hole.

01:06:31.040 Good strategy by the detective.

01:06:32.120 I love these girls.

01:06:36.720 I love these girls so much.

01:06:38.920 And this picture right here, Celeste and Bella, those are my life.

01:06:45.740 I helped make those kids.

01:06:48.740 I helped make those kids.

01:06:51.160 Nothing in my life that means more to me than these kids.

01:06:57.240 Wouldn't you say my kids, if they were your children?

01:07:00.840 It's a little weird there, isn't it?

01:07:02.120 Nothing.

01:07:06.620 Kids, that's your life.

01:07:08.780 That's your lifeline.

01:07:10.760 That's everything.

01:07:11.800 Like, you make kids, they come first before anything.

01:07:14.880 Kids, spouse, family.

01:07:17.780 That's what it's always been.

01:07:26.840 Boom, Baka!

01:07:27.900 Nothing you've told me tonight makes sense.

01:07:29.900 Nothing you've told me tonight feels like the truth.

01:07:33.740 Can we start over?

01:07:40.300 Sure.

01:07:43.580 Tonight's been pretty intense, I can imagine.

01:07:46.100 How are you feeling?

01:07:46.600 I slept like two hours last night, so I'm running on empty right now.

01:07:52.660 I can see it.

01:07:54.680 So why don't I do this?

01:07:56.960 I'm sure you don't mind if we take a break for tonight.

01:07:59.920 I'm sure that you are feeling some of the pressure from me.

01:08:06.580 Okay.

01:08:06.980 I'm going to commit to you that we're not going to stop working until we find them.

01:08:11.440 Okay.

01:08:11.900 Okay.

01:08:12.200 And I want to commit to you that there is going to come a time when you're going to-

01:08:19.320 I don't know if you guys noticed.

01:08:20.160 So he's easing off the pressure because he said, we're going to find him, right?

01:08:23.860 And this is obviously purposeful on the detective to create a little bit of comfort for him, right?

01:08:30.100 So that he comes back tomorrow for the polygraph test.

01:08:32.620 Okay.

01:08:33.080 At this point, he's like, all right, I've pushed this guy to the edge now.

01:08:35.840 We need him to come back because we know he's a suspect.

01:08:38.500 We need him to continue to cooperate.

01:08:40.180 So I need to let him go.

01:08:41.580 He's going to already be uncomfortable because he already accused him during this interrogation.

01:08:44.720 But now he's got to let him go softly so he returns the following day.

01:08:48.320 He doesn't want him to lawyer up.

01:08:49.660 So he's like, okay, we're going to find him, assuming that there's another killer,

01:08:52.080 even though the detective knows that he is the killer.

01:08:55.900 Nice little subtle new, you know, thing to add into the interview there.

01:09:00.860 I feel this pressure from other people.

01:09:03.200 I'm not the only one who thinks that there's a possibility you have something to do with this.

01:09:06.960 It's like another FBI agent, like pressure, like this, like everyone.

01:09:11.220 Okay.

01:09:11.640 Everyone, Chris.

01:09:12.380 Okay.

01:09:13.060 The interrogator is clearly receptive to Chris's anxiety and endeavors to amplify this emotion

01:09:18.560 before ending the interview.

01:09:19.980 He wants to inflate Chris's apprehension as much as possible for the looming polygraph test

01:09:24.920 that approaches the following day.

01:09:26.860 Tonight, when you go home, one or two things are going to happen.

01:09:32.220 You're going to pass out because you're so tired.

01:09:34.740 Okay.

01:09:34.900 That's probably not going to be what happens.

01:09:37.600 Your head's going to go race.

01:09:38.900 Okay.

01:09:39.820 So tonight, when you lay down and your head starts racing, there's going to be things

01:09:43.860 that come to your mind.

01:09:44.920 Okay.

01:09:45.280 This always happens.

01:09:46.700 Always.

01:09:47.260 It's very natural.

01:09:48.500 You're going to say, I don't know why he asked me that.

01:09:51.320 Okay.

01:09:52.100 You're going to say, screw him.

01:09:53.300 How dare he?

01:09:54.080 Excuse me.

01:09:55.260 Okay.

01:09:55.940 You're going to say, I wonder if...

01:09:57.100 Which is what he should have done during this interview, but he didn't.

01:09:59.700 You're going to say, I probably should have told him something or this or that.

01:10:07.540 Those are the most common things.

01:10:10.100 When those thoughts come to your head, I want you to call me.

01:10:12.720 And those are beautiful kids.

01:10:18.680 Those kids have a good dad.

01:10:20.420 And I know it.

01:10:21.280 This is it.

01:10:21.840 See?

01:10:22.220 And he's saying that to get him to come back the next day.

01:10:24.640 And here's the other reason, too, guys, why he's letting him go.

01:10:26.520 So, your sleep, right, the sleep from the night prior heavily affects your polygraph results.

01:10:34.620 If you don't sleep, you're more than likely going to give a deceptive response or you're going to fail the polygraph.

01:10:45.220 That's another reason why he wants him to leave now because he wants to be able to say, oh, no, I let him out at this time.

01:10:50.720 He had ample time to come in and do the polygraph the next day and get adequate sleep.

01:10:53.980 So, that's another strategy from the detective as well that they're not mentioning here.

01:10:57.640 It's just, I'm sorry, too.

01:11:03.220 Those kids have a good dad.

01:11:04.820 The following discourse from the officer could be construed as the reframing technique where an interrogator will try and shift the suspect's view of themselves from negative to positive as a means to lightening the iniquity of their crimes and increasing the chances of a confession.

01:11:19.820 However, this is more likely what is known as passive accusation, where the interrogator is almost certain of the suspect's guilt and indirectly accuses and, in some manner, indignifies the suspect.

01:11:31.480 This is made evident by the high praises the officer gives to Chris for extremely trivial deeds.

01:11:36.880 A lot of dads don't get second pairs of clothes and cook eggs and give them snacks at night.

01:11:44.920 You know, a lot of men, that's women for it, right?

01:11:47.800 I like to get involved.

01:11:49.080 You're not that kind of guy.

01:11:50.440 Okay.

01:11:51.600 Someone said, he needs to manifest an Oscar.

01:11:56.540 Yeah, these are L acting skills.

01:11:58.180 I ain't gonna lie, bro.

01:11:58.940 So, can we say that tomorrow at 11 o'clock, we can do a polygraph?

01:12:08.060 Sure.

01:12:08.440 Yeah.

01:12:09.120 I appreciate you coming in tonight.

01:12:10.920 All right.

01:12:11.280 I'm gonna use my cartoon.

01:12:13.340 This is Tammy.

01:12:14.200 Did you meet Tammy yesterday?

01:12:15.180 No, it looks good.

01:12:15.760 I always do.

01:12:16.640 How are you?

01:12:17.960 So, almost?

01:12:18.740 Yeah, I know.

01:12:19.660 I'll explain what that is here in a little bit, but you don't have to worry.

01:12:22.640 It's not on or anything right now.

01:12:24.220 It's not gonna buzz you or anything.

01:12:26.980 Obviously, you're probably-

01:12:27.780 Okay, so this right here, guys, is the polygrapher, this woman.

01:12:31.540 And also, keep in mind, guys, that polygraphs, right, just to give you a quick little background

01:12:36.040 on what they are, all commonly known as the lie detector test.

01:12:38.620 What it does is it tests your bodily functions, okay?

01:12:41.460 It doesn't necessarily tell if you're lying or not.

01:12:43.420 It just tells your response, right, from a bodily standpoint to questions that are asked

01:12:48.120 of you.

01:12:48.360 So, they give you a baseline of questions.

01:12:49.940 What's your name?

01:12:50.480 Are the lights on right now?

01:12:51.700 What's your birthday?

01:12:52.640 Questions that you already know the answer to that are simple that you're not gonna lie about,

01:12:55.160 right?

01:12:55.740 Then, they get a baseline.

01:12:56.620 Once they get the baseline, then they start asking you the crazy questions that might

01:12:59.740 or may not incriminate you.

01:13:00.940 And then, they see your responses.

01:13:02.340 This could be sweat, heart rate, what's it called, your leg shaking, a bunch of different

01:13:11.180 responses that the body gives when answering questions, right?

01:13:14.580 That's why they have a bunch of things strapped up to you.

01:13:17.480 You know, every polygraph test is different.

01:13:18.920 Every polygrapher is different in how they interpret the data.

01:13:20.900 And every polygraph test uses different measurements to read your bodily functions.

01:13:25.780 But the point is, is to try to detect deception.

01:13:29.520 It's a tool to detect deception.

01:13:31.300 And then, when the body responds a certain way, what they'll do is they'll hone in on

01:13:34.300 that question that's giving a certain response to try to dig into the truth.

01:13:37.720 But polygraphs themselves are not admissible in court because, I mean, let's be honest here.

01:13:42.020 There's a bunch of people that beat polygraphs that are sociopaths.

01:13:44.540 For example, the Green River Killer, the last episode I did for y'all, who killed 49 women,

01:13:49.320 he passed the polygraph with flying colors.

01:13:51.680 There's a lot of people that could pass polygraph tests when they're lying.

01:13:55.500 So, it's just merely a tool.

01:13:59.320 Also, before we get into this, guys, do me a favor.

01:14:01.080 I hate to ask this again.

01:14:02.300 We've got 2,000 plus y'all watching right now.

01:14:04.120 You could be anywhere else in the world, but you're here with us.

01:14:05.420 So, thank you so much.

01:14:06.260 Now, I only ask, like the video.

01:14:07.980 I don't got to donate a dollar to the chat.

01:14:09.940 Again, I do this channel because I do enjoy it.

01:14:11.980 We're at 1.1K likes, but there's over 2,000 y'all watching right now.

01:14:15.620 So, give me the 2K likes so we can go ahead and get this up in the algo.

01:14:19.660 Let's keep going.

01:14:20.540 I would think something is wrong with you if you weren't nervous about coming in here to take a polygraph.

01:14:24.960 Even if people are like, I don't have anything to hide, it is nerve-wracking.

01:14:28.480 But I have taken tons of polygraphs, obviously, in my training.

01:14:32.740 I went to 10 weeks for training.

01:14:34.760 I've been a polygrapher for about five years.

01:14:37.760 I went to the best school in the country.

01:14:39.400 So, I want you to have confidence in the fact that you had nothing to do with this disappearance.

01:14:44.120 Like, we're going to find that out today.

01:14:45.600 Okay?

01:14:46.020 I have the best training that they offer in the United States.

01:14:49.920 We use the most validated testing.

01:14:52.900 That's the way I'm going to ask you the questions.

01:14:55.080 So, believe me, if you had nothing to do with this, I will be able to show them that today.

01:14:59.660 This is psychological pressure.

01:15:02.100 Also, keep in mind, guys, that a lot of innocent people fail polygraphs as well because a lot of people get nervous.

01:15:06.280 So, it's not a fail-safe, guys.

01:15:08.340 It's just a tool to try to figure out the truth.

01:15:10.380 But in general, polygraphs, I ain't going to lie to you, a lot of people say that they're BS.

01:15:14.720 They're pseudoscience.

01:15:15.540 And I would err more on the side of it.

01:15:18.260 Pseudoscience is a tool that will get you somewhere, but they're not always, you know, foolproof.

01:15:24.160 Guised as reassurance.

01:15:25.700 It's not a routine procedure during the pre-test phase of a polygraph exam.

01:15:29.900 Yet, this technique will be used when the suspect's guilt is almost conclusive.

01:15:34.040 Polygraphs are not a foolproof system, and they can be beaten.

01:15:37.000 But with a heightened state of anxiety, it becomes considerably more challenging and unlikely.

01:15:41.480 On this occasion, the polygrapher distinctly applies this technique for maximal effect.

01:15:46.600 There's actually only two ways you can fail a polygraph, okay?

01:15:49.340 The first way would be if you fail to follow my instructions.

01:15:52.120 I'm going to give you a lot of instructions today about how to sit still, how to answer questions, things like that.

01:15:56.480 If you fail to follow those instructions, you will not pass today's test, okay?

01:16:00.400 The second way would be if you choose to lie to me today.

01:16:03.100 You know, if you did have something to do with their disappearance, it would be really stupid for you to come in and take a polygraph today.

01:16:10.120 Right?

01:16:10.480 Like, it would be really tough.

01:16:12.740 Like, you should not be here right now sitting in this chair if you had anything to do with...

01:16:17.420 Stupid!

01:16:19.300 And what is he doing?

01:16:20.340 He's there.

01:16:21.180 And a little girl's disappearance.

01:16:23.220 Okay.

01:16:27.920 Well, yeah, we just started things first from there.

01:16:30.560 Like, in 2011, I proposed to her over at Ocean Isle Beach.

01:16:34.760 And she was just sitting there crying with a little fixing notice.

01:16:40.020 And she had on...

01:16:40.700 She recorded it.

01:16:41.780 It was really...

01:16:42.700 It was an amazing day to see that.

01:16:45.100 And then she's...

01:16:46.260 She left.

01:16:46.760 She was...

01:16:47.700 She was...

01:16:48.700 I was there.

01:16:49.500 Like, she had a midwife for this one.

01:16:51.420 So, like, they actually had me, like, are you going to stand here and, like, you know, catch her?

01:16:56.080 And, like, book, but fluff came out, like, so fast that, like, I barely had a chance to go like this.

01:17:01.440 And they moved me out of the way.

01:17:02.500 She just, like, came out.

01:17:03.540 The polygrapher will also obtain the examinee's version of the facts regarding the specific issues under investigation.

01:17:10.080 Like, I was just hoping that I would get that knock on the door or a phone call or a text.

01:17:15.180 I mean, her phone...

01:17:16.340 They have her phone.

01:17:17.360 Like, hopefully, maybe it's a number I don't know.

01:17:20.080 Hopefully, it's, like, you know, like, a burner phone or some kind of, like, phone she bought.

01:17:26.700 So, you could just text me and call me, like, hey, I'm okay.

01:17:29.440 Something.

01:17:30.100 Or just get a knock on the door.

01:17:31.680 And then the kids just run in.

01:17:33.500 I miss, like, the kids, like, sitting at the dinner table and, like, having to tell them to eat their dinner.

01:17:38.720 And, like, I miss them throwing their chicken nuggets at me.

01:17:42.480 Like, I was...

01:17:44.240 I just want to find them.

01:17:46.200 I want them to come home safe.

01:17:47.540 Like, wherever they are, I hope they are safe.

01:17:50.280 And I really...

01:17:51.160 I really hope they can just come home.

01:17:53.920 It makes me feel like, all right, maybe somebody has her that's not...

01:17:58.040 That's not keeping her safe.

01:18:01.420 Or something terrible.

01:18:02.600 I would say...

01:18:03.580 What do you say, Angie?

01:18:04.420 Probably the worst acting?

01:18:05.940 Yes.

01:18:06.500 Yeah, I would say...

01:18:07.120 Absolutely.

01:18:07.360 Is he worse than Casey Anthony, you think?

01:18:09.420 Yeah.

01:18:09.920 Yeah, he's worse than Casey Anthony.

01:18:11.740 Casey Anthony kind of almost believed her lies.

01:18:14.160 She did.

01:18:14.840 She did.

01:18:15.240 Yeah, she believed her lies because she was a psycho.

01:18:17.100 But this guy, just L acting all around.

01:18:19.620 What's happened?

01:18:21.220 And that is...

01:18:22.220 That's the nightmare.

01:18:24.520 And what would that terrible thing do?

01:18:27.440 Somebody hurt them.

01:18:28.840 Chris recounts a brief summary of the events and states multiple vague possibilities for his family's disappearance.

01:18:35.100 The polygrapher then starts to elect specific timelines for Chris to give his account on.

01:18:40.440 You said the next thing you know, it's her getting into bed with you.

01:18:44.720 Is that right?

01:18:45.280 I felt her getting into bed.

01:18:46.700 We didn't say anything because I just kind of felt it.

01:18:49.500 Okay.

01:18:50.100 Do you know if she was on her phone or like how any of that works?

01:18:53.700 I don't think she was on her phone.

01:18:56.460 Was she mad at all?

01:18:57.500 I mean, being crying, crying like she was, crying like I was.

01:19:02.320 I mean, yeah, I mean, she was upset.

01:19:05.040 But, I mean, it comes with that kind of conversation.

01:19:08.640 In the next moments, you will see another subterfuge of psychological pressure,

01:19:12.880 this time disguised as routine questioning procedure.

01:19:15.760 I know it's totally awful to think about, but what are ways,

01:19:20.320 because I need to make sure that you know what I'm talking about,

01:19:23.720 what are ways that you can make someone disappear?

01:19:25.920 I mean, like, as you talk about, like, what I've seen, like, on the movies,

01:19:37.760 or, like, how people, if you read about other people, I mean, hire somebody.

01:19:45.020 Like a hitman?

01:19:45.860 Yeah, I mean, that's, I mean, I'm just being honest.

01:19:48.360 No, that's what I want.

01:19:49.320 That's what I want, because I want you to go through all of these scenarios

01:19:51.620 in your head, because I want you to know for sure what I'm talking about

01:19:55.180 when I say that, you know, asking you if you physically caused her disappearance.

01:19:59.520 Translation, I want to see how you potentially killed your family.

01:20:02.260 Like, you'd hire somebody, or you have somebody you know that would do it.

01:20:10.060 I mean, it's like, I don't, I mean, it's a hard question to answer.

01:20:13.400 I didn't know this stuff.

01:20:14.080 It's a hard question to answer.

01:20:15.640 Right.

01:20:16.400 Because I didn't, it had nothing to do with this disappearance.

01:20:20.020 Right.

01:20:20.220 So, like, I don't even want to think about, like,

01:20:23.620 if you're asking, like, how I would do it.

01:20:27.120 No, anyone.

01:20:27.860 Like, how would anyone cause someone else's disappearance?

01:20:30.640 I mean, you would, I said like,

01:20:35.120 You could cause someone's disappearance by murdering them.

01:20:38.060 Yes.

01:20:38.220 Do you agree with that?

01:20:39.020 Yes.

01:20:39.380 So, what different physical ways could you cause someone's disappearance through murder?

01:20:44.720 You could stab someone, shoot someone, hit them with a blunt object.

01:20:50.880 Okay, cautious not to mention actual causes of death.

01:20:56.240 Strangulation for his wife and smothering of his daughters.

01:20:59.920 He doesn't mention that, of course, for obvious reasons.

01:21:02.700 Yay!

01:21:05.300 Also, there, I mean, use a weapon, like, gun or a knife.

01:21:10.420 I mean, you could...

01:21:12.880 He really didn't want to say that one.

01:21:25.040 He really didn't want to say that one.

01:21:29.120 You could strangle someone.

01:21:30.400 You could hang someone, you know, you can...

01:21:32.160 All that kind of thing.

01:21:33.180 I mean, it's hard to even think about that kind of stuff right now.

01:21:37.220 You could strangle someone.

01:21:38.240 Yeah, it's hard when she mentions the ways that you actually killed your family to think about it.

01:21:41.620 Someone, you could drown someone.

01:21:43.740 Yeah.

01:21:44.700 You could shock someone to death.

01:21:46.880 You could burn someone alive.

01:21:51.700 What other ways do you think of?

01:21:57.760 As far as, like, lure them into a trap, I guess.

01:22:04.440 What do you mean?

01:22:05.320 Like, you know, like, have somebody waiting, like, around the corner and, like, drive.

01:22:10.540 Sure.

01:22:11.620 All right, so you get some more answers.

01:22:16.000 Hit by a car, kidnapped, locked in a room, poisoned, beaten into a coma.

01:22:21.240 Is there in a coma?

01:22:22.560 Sure.

01:22:27.020 So if I ask you that question on the test, Chris, are you going to have any issue with that?

01:22:31.580 About you physically causing...

01:22:33.120 Like, going through every single audio?

01:22:34.960 Yeah, like, that would be a way you could cause someone's disappearance.

01:22:37.620 Okay, I'm not, I can definitely, like, I can pass, I mean, I think...

01:22:40.860 You could murder them, you could kidnap them, you could take them to another country, you could, you know, bury them in your backyard.

01:22:45.860 You could do a million things as far as trying to conceal them.

01:22:51.020 Yeah.

01:22:51.280 Right?

01:22:52.320 So that no one could find them?

01:22:53.540 Yes.

01:22:53.940 Because at this point, she...

01:22:55.400 Wow.

01:22:56.240 Take into consideration...

01:22:57.740 What was that?

01:22:58.120 Take into consideration that she doesn't know at this point, like, of the interview, she doesn't know what he did to his family.

01:23:05.080 Yeah.

01:23:05.700 Yeah.

01:23:05.980 Very interesting, right?

01:23:07.040 Yeah.

01:23:07.600 And you guys can know, you guys notice the contrast between her and the male detective that interviewed him the day before.

01:23:12.380 She's a lot more disarming.

01:23:13.720 She's a lot nicer.

01:23:14.880 She's giving him a significant amount of space.

01:23:17.900 Also, notice how she's not sitting in between him and the door.

01:23:22.000 Okay?

01:23:22.480 She's here, back to the wall.

01:23:24.160 He's closer to the door, which is over this way.

01:23:26.560 So, because obviously, a polygraph in itself is a very stressful situation.

01:23:30.860 So, she's trying to make him somewhat as calm as possible and be a little bit nicer so that she can get more information out of him.

01:23:37.340 I'm not asking you about guilt.

01:23:39.180 I'm not asking you about, did you make her feel so horrible that she ended up leaving?

01:23:43.200 I'm saying that you were the one that physically caused her to disappear.

01:23:48.200 Either by murder, kidnapping, you know, all those other things that we went through.

01:23:52.080 Okay?

01:23:52.300 You don't want me to list all those?

01:23:54.640 No, no, no.

01:23:55.180 You're just going to say no to that question.

01:23:56.960 Okay.

01:23:57.500 When I ask you if you physically caused Shanann's disappearance.

01:24:00.460 Your answer should be what?

01:24:02.220 No.

01:24:02.700 Right.

01:24:03.440 So, do you have any issues with that at all?

01:24:05.100 No.

01:24:05.400 Have any questions about what I would mean when I was...

01:24:07.680 No, that's totally fine.

01:24:09.200 I just like going through all those that...

01:24:11.280 Right.

01:24:12.460 That's a lot to really think about.

01:24:14.080 Right.

01:24:15.080 Like trying to figure out like how do you have those?

01:24:21.000 I'm going to have you take a bath and break.

01:24:23.080 Thank you.

01:24:23.380 We've been in here quite a while.

01:24:26.580 You're going to be taking what's called a directed lie polygraph.

01:24:29.760 So, what that means is there are going to be questions on the test where I want you to lie.

01:24:33.860 I know it seems kind of weird, but you're going to know which questions these are and they're going to be easy to answer.

01:24:38.080 They're all going to start with before 2018.

01:24:40.580 The directed lie test has three types of questions.

01:24:43.840 Known truth questions.

01:24:45.260 These are easy questions to answer, such as are you sitting down or are you wearing shoes?

01:24:50.840 They serve two purposes.

01:24:52.020 Just real quick for this guy.

01:24:54.280 Bro, stop doing videos on shit cases.

01:24:55.800 All we want is making a murder.

01:24:57.080 The biggest, most famous case of all time.

01:24:58.940 Niggas even went on Dr. Phil.

01:25:00.500 Bro, you got to understand that the world doesn't revolve around you, my friend.

01:25:03.320 People request a bunch of different cases.

01:25:04.980 This is one of them.

01:25:05.880 We typically go off of what most people ask for.

01:25:08.200 And this was definitely at the top of the list.

01:25:09.860 So, hey, man.

01:25:11.200 We'll probably get to making a murderer.

01:25:12.800 But you got to understand and be patient that a lot of people are requesting other stuff.

01:25:16.400 Making a murderer isn't even in the top.

01:25:18.340 Is that even in the top 10 for requests?

01:25:21.020 No.

01:25:21.660 Yeah.

01:25:22.220 So, don't worry.

01:25:23.760 We will get to it, man.

01:25:28.640 The first purpose is to provide a baseline reading for when the subject is telling the truth

01:25:34.540 and should elicit very little bodily responses.

01:25:37.140 The second purpose is to disconnect the examinee's thought patterns between each question as a means

01:25:42.480 for resetting their cerebration for a more accurate reading.

01:25:45.720 Control questions.

01:25:46.920 These are what the polygrapher just explained to Chris.

01:25:49.700 Whenever she says, before 2018, at the start of a question, Chris will know he is purposely

01:25:55.240 supposed to lie.

01:25:56.340 Each of these questions are deliberately constructed that all answers will be responded with no.

01:26:01.620 Relevant questions.

01:26:02.880 These relate specifically to the crime being investigated and the examinee will know that

01:26:07.560 they are supposed to respond truthfully.

01:26:09.500 A guilty subject will show a much stronger reaction to the relevant questions than to the

01:26:14.060 control questions, even though they will be lying on both of them.

01:26:17.080 This is due to the immediate threat posed by the relevant questions.

01:26:20.620 So I'm going to say before 2018, did you ever lose your temper with someone you cared about?

01:26:25.120 And you're going to say...

01:26:26.160 No.

01:26:26.760 ...because you're telling a...

01:26:28.000 Why?

01:26:28.600 Awesome.

01:26:34.440 The test is about to begin.

01:26:36.100 Please remain still.

01:26:37.400 Did you write the number...

01:26:38.100 All right, so they're doing the fake test here to make sure he understands the rules?

01:26:42.100 Number one.

01:26:43.440 No.

01:26:44.280 Did you write the number three?

01:26:45.860 No.

01:26:46.760 Did you write the number five?

01:26:48.540 No.

01:26:48.900 This portion of the test is complete.

01:26:51.360 Please remain still.

01:26:52.280 I take the instrument out of operation.

01:26:56.060 You can relax.

01:26:58.620 And feel.

01:27:00.900 This is the last time the polygrapher will have any correspondence with Chris before the

01:27:05.540 real test begins.

01:27:06.780 She gives him an initial compliment in a reassuring tone.

01:27:09.600 You did great.

01:27:11.540 You remembered to lie and everything.

01:27:13.360 That was awesome.

01:27:14.540 Close.

01:27:15.020 This momentary boost in his confidence is then abruptly ripped away as he receives the following

01:27:21.400 information.

01:27:22.340 So, you obviously are a really bad liar.

01:27:25.420 Have people told you that before?

01:27:26.900 Like, the second you tell him a lie, like, they can tell...

01:27:28.500 Please, someone tell him.

01:27:29.780 Someone told him, finally, that he's a terrible liar.

01:27:32.280 Holy.

01:27:33.280 The acting skills are awful.

01:27:35.980 Because the second you lied to the number three, like, I don't know if you heard me clicking,

01:27:39.180 but, like, turn down the sensitivity because you're starting to go off the page.

01:27:42.480 So, that is what I need to see as a polygrapher because that tells me that you know what's

01:27:47.700 wrong to tell a lie.

01:27:49.320 And you're actually having a significant reaction when you lie.

01:27:52.080 So, that is awesome.

01:27:53.340 So, thank you for being a horrible liar.

01:27:55.780 So, that's a good thing.

01:27:56.940 That's a good thing.

01:27:57.700 We don't want to be good liars.

01:27:59.020 So, thank you for being a horrible liar.

01:28:01.660 And that just shows me that, you know, obviously on the test when they're asking, you know, significant

01:28:05.540 stuff about your wife, if you're lying to that, it's going to be even 10 times more

01:28:09.200 I have to have amplified.

01:28:09.940 So, I appreciate that.

01:28:12.520 I appreciate that very much, more than you know.

01:28:15.140 So, that was awesome.

01:28:18.060 And the coolest thing about this is right now, there's only one person in this room that

01:28:21.740 knows what the truth is.

01:28:23.180 And in about five minutes, there's going to be two of us.

01:28:25.720 So, that's the coolest part.

01:28:27.380 Okay?

01:28:27.800 And then I can go share that.

01:28:29.260 Yeah, cool for her.

01:28:30.620 Terrible for you, bro.

01:28:31.420 But, again, she's, you know, she's almost infantilizing him a bit.

01:28:39.180 And the reason why, guys, is so that he feels more comfortable.

01:28:41.100 If you guys notice, she's coming in with more of like a motherly slash teacher slash happy

01:28:46.480 aunt type vibe to make him more comfortable when she's asking these probing questions.

01:28:51.140 Okay?

01:28:51.400 Which is a big 180 from the detective that was grilling him the night before.

01:28:55.760 Put them out there.

01:28:57.660 Okay.

01:28:59.060 All right.

01:28:59.660 You ready?

01:29:00.820 Let's do it.

01:29:01.940 The test is about to begin.

01:29:03.140 Please remain still.

01:29:08.660 Do you understand I will only ask you the questions we have discussed?

01:29:12.740 Yes.

01:29:14.440 Regarding Shanann's disappearance, do you intend to answer all of the questions truthfully?

01:29:18.740 All right.

01:29:19.200 Here we go, guys.

01:29:20.240 All right.

01:29:20.500 Before we get into this polygraph part, I'm going to just play it uninterrupted.

01:29:23.400 I want it so you guys can get it in full.

01:29:24.800 But before I do that, I need y'all to like the video.

01:29:29.080 Okay?

01:29:29.620 Yeah, guys.

01:29:30.140 Like the video, guys.

01:29:31.540 Subscribe to the channel.

01:29:32.280 We got 2,132 of you guys in here right now.

01:29:35.440 Well over 2,000, y'all.

01:29:36.560 That means we should be at 2,000 likes easy.

01:29:40.020 All right?

01:29:40.680 So get the likes up, guys.

01:29:42.460 I hate asking for this, but the only reason I have to is because you guys don't like the

01:29:45.280 video, bro.

01:29:45.680 Stop being Ninja Watchers.

01:29:47.120 Smash that like button.

01:29:47.920 It's free.

01:29:48.420 It costs you nothing.

01:29:49.580 And it'll help us where I don't have to keep stopping the show.

01:29:53.400 It's like the goddamn video.

01:29:54.420 All right?

01:29:54.800 Let's get back into it.

01:29:57.860 Yes.

01:29:59.620 Is your first name Christopher?

01:30:01.520 Yes.

01:30:02.860 Before 2018, did you ever lose your temper with someone you cared about?

01:30:07.420 No.

01:30:08.600 Did you physically cause Shanann's disappearance?

01:30:11.520 No.

01:30:14.400 Were you born in 1985?

01:30:17.240 Yes.

01:30:17.600 Before 2018, did you ever say anything out of anger to a loved one?

01:30:23.120 No.

01:30:25.120 Are you lying about the last time you saw Shanann?

01:30:27.900 No.

01:30:28.260 Are you now in the state of Colorado?

01:30:34.560 Yes.

01:30:36.280 Before 2018, have you ever wanted to hurt someone to get even with them?

01:30:40.380 No.

01:30:42.320 Do you know where Shanann is now?

01:30:44.780 No.

01:30:45.080 Stop the cab.

01:30:48.120 Stop the cab.

01:30:50.000 This portion of the test is complete.

01:30:51.680 Please remain still while I take the instrument out of operation.

01:30:54.980 All right.

01:30:55.420 How do you feel?

01:30:57.160 Same?

01:30:57.820 Is it all of it?

01:30:58.960 Thank you.

01:30:59.300 Thank you.

01:31:00.040 Thank you.

01:31:00.200 Thank you.

01:31:00.520 All right.

01:31:01.300 Oh, yeah.

01:31:02.680 We'll be right back.

01:31:03.600 Okay.

01:31:03.800 We'll be right back.

01:31:33.780 Now you're getting grilled by the police about it, and then you just did a polygraph test

01:31:37.420 where you're nervous as hell.

01:31:38.860 You know you're more than likely on camera, and you start watching a video of your family

01:31:45.760 and children.

01:31:46.880 Like, what is going on?

01:31:48.460 What?

01:31:49.960 Man.

01:31:50.720 What the fuck?

01:31:51.420 I think he sees that his world is closing in on him.

01:31:57.020 Oh, my God.

01:31:59.660 Stop.

01:32:01.100 Stop.

01:32:01.460 Stop.

01:32:01.500 Stop.

01:32:01.540 Stop.

01:32:01.580 Stop.

01:32:01.620 Stop.

01:32:01.640 Stop.

01:32:01.660 Stop.

01:32:01.680 Stop.

01:32:01.720 Stop.

01:32:01.740 Stop.

01:32:01.760 Stop.

01:32:02.100 Stop.

01:32:03.780 Oh, my gosh.

01:32:11.140 I didn't forget part of it, didn't I?

01:32:14.000 All right.

01:32:14.440 We're about to get the verdict here, guys.

01:32:15.760 Let's see what happened with this polygraph test.

01:32:28.440 Is there a program in here?

01:32:29.840 Oh, and the dude is back now.

01:32:31.120 Talk about tension time.

01:32:33.840 We want to talk to you about the results, okay?

01:32:36.100 Sure.

01:32:36.460 So, um, it was completely clear that you were not honest during the testing, but I think you

01:32:45.800 already know that.

01:32:46.560 Um, you failed miserably.

01:32:49.080 Gotcha, bitch.

01:32:49.720 Definitely.

01:32:50.120 Fatality.

01:32:51.460 Yeah, fake L right there.

01:32:53.500 Failed the test.

01:32:54.760 Not passed the polygraph test.

01:32:56.120 Okay.

01:32:56.320 Okay.

01:32:56.940 So now we need to talk about what actually happened.

01:32:59.800 I feel like you're probably ready to do that.

01:33:03.640 I didn't, I didn't lie to you on that polygraph.

01:33:06.100 I promise.

01:33:07.520 Chris, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to stop.

01:33:10.140 It's time.

01:33:11.020 I'm, I'm going to stop for a minute.

01:33:13.020 Take a deep breath.

01:33:15.200 I want you to take a deep breath right now.

01:33:17.300 All right.

01:33:23.620 And that's the end of part two.

01:33:24.840 So we're going to go into the final part here.

01:33:26.140 Part three.

01:33:26.800 But before I do, uh, I hit some of these chats real fast, guys.

01:33:30.260 Uh, we got here.

01:33:31.680 Um, you guys are funny.

01:33:33.000 Yeah, you guys are Mr. Stewart.

01:33:34.140 20 bucks.

01:33:34.560 Great content.

01:33:35.060 Thank you so much.

01:33:35.660 Like the video guys, since you guys think it's great content.

01:33:37.880 Uh, ain't nobody giving you all breakdowns like this from a former investigator standpoint.

01:33:41.500 Uh, Jacob, let's Angie.

01:33:42.500 Can you share the list of names you have written down already?

01:33:45.680 Okay.

01:33:46.080 You can, uh, you want to get the top 10 maybe?

01:33:48.880 Uh, yeah.

01:33:49.900 Okay.

01:33:50.200 Well, we have done a few already.

01:33:53.060 Okay.

01:33:53.580 Hang on.

01:33:54.080 You want me to, I'll read the chats and when she's getting her notes right now, cause she

01:33:56.920 has a bunch.

01:33:57.420 Well, it's right here.

01:33:57.920 Um, oh, you got it?

01:33:58.760 Okay.

01:33:58.900 Yeah.

01:33:59.160 Gary Richway, you did already.

01:34:00.940 Uh, this is Chris Watts, the black mafia family.

01:34:03.920 Okay.

01:34:04.360 BMF.

01:34:04.780 We've started that one.

01:34:05.960 We have started BMF.

01:34:07.300 We found a documentary that we're going to use for y'all.

01:34:09.020 The problem is that it's hard to find.

01:34:11.300 Well, I know what the documentary is, but we're trying to find it in high quality for

01:34:14.100 you guys.

01:34:14.680 Yes.

01:34:15.260 Yeah.

01:34:15.580 On YouTube.

01:34:16.240 Yeah.

01:34:16.800 Um, alien awareness.

01:34:18.840 Okay.

01:34:19.600 All right.

01:34:19.920 Yeah.

01:34:20.680 Um, John Bennett Ramsey.

01:34:22.380 Okay.

01:34:23.140 Tory Lanez.

01:34:24.900 I covered Tory Lanez already though.

01:34:26.560 Did they say specifically what in Tory Lanez?

01:34:28.420 No, but a bunch of people have been asking for, for the case.

01:34:31.200 So.

01:34:31.560 All right.

01:34:32.020 Maybe.

01:34:32.520 So in the chat, let us know what you guys want in particular with Tory Lanez.

01:34:35.020 Cause I already, I already covered him.

01:34:36.480 I did two episodes on Tory Lanez.

01:34:38.200 Right.

01:34:38.440 Go ahead.

01:34:38.900 Continue on.

01:34:39.480 Golden State Killer.

01:34:40.680 Okay.

01:34:41.060 Yep.

01:34:41.280 We've, we've studied that one.

01:34:42.520 Mm-hmm.

01:34:43.020 Lorena Bobbitt.

01:34:44.440 Aaron Hernandez.

01:34:45.160 This is, uh, Todd Cothelp, the Amazon Review Killer.

01:34:50.320 Amazon Review Killer?

01:34:51.440 Yeah.

01:34:51.760 What's his name?

01:34:53.440 Todd Cothelp.

01:34:55.760 Something like that.

01:34:56.380 I don't know.

01:34:56.820 Todd Cothelp?

01:34:57.020 Todd, if you know it, just track the name here.

01:34:58.540 Someone, someone correct her.

01:34:59.420 Her English sucks.

01:35:00.160 Yeah.

01:35:00.540 Okay.

01:35:02.200 Yeah.

01:35:02.820 David Berkowitz.

01:35:04.240 The son of Sam.

01:35:04.860 Okay.

01:35:05.180 Yep.

01:35:05.640 And Ed Kemper.

01:35:06.820 Those are the top 10?

01:35:07.580 The top.

01:35:08.040 Yep.

01:35:08.360 Okay.

01:35:08.820 Bam.

01:35:09.040 So that's your top 10 right there for you guys.

01:35:10.700 For all you guys that keep asking.

01:35:12.080 Like, yo.

01:35:14.040 Myron.

01:35:14.940 Cover this case.

01:35:15.820 Cover that case.

01:35:16.380 That's the top 10 that you guys have been requesting.

01:35:18.280 Angie's been compiling a list.

01:35:20.040 Uh, what's number one on there right now?

01:35:24.100 I mean, I don't have it as a prior, like top, you know?

01:35:27.800 Okay.

01:35:28.080 But these are the ones that you get the most of?

01:35:29.740 Yes.

01:35:30.100 But Gary Ridgway, we did that one.

01:35:31.660 That was up there.

01:35:32.800 And then, uh, what was the other one?

01:35:35.480 Uh, the one that you mentioned earlier, that's also highly requested.

01:35:38.840 The Alex.

01:35:39.220 Black Mafia family?

01:35:40.380 Alex Murdo.

01:35:41.840 Oh, Murdo.

01:35:42.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:35:43.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:35:43.960 We might do that one because that one's trending right now.

01:35:46.000 Memphis Tree Case 2.

01:35:47.880 You keep asking about that.

01:35:49.100 I don't know much about that.

01:35:50.560 Memphis Tree.

01:35:52.340 Memphis Tree.

01:35:53.000 That's the name of it.

01:35:54.320 I don't know what it is.

01:35:55.100 I don't know what that is.

01:35:56.100 Okay.

01:35:56.340 Memphis Tree.

01:35:56.980 I don't know.

01:35:57.520 You keep asking about that too.

01:35:59.880 Okay.

01:36:00.560 But yeah.

01:36:01.200 Those are the most requested ones.

01:36:03.040 All right.

01:36:03.520 Cool.

01:36:04.280 Uh, all right.

01:36:04.860 So I'll go back to the chats real quick.

01:36:06.740 Um, we got here.

01:36:08.400 Uh, Albo Ace goes, we need one of those polygraphs for the 304s on a night show.

01:36:12.020 Facts.

01:36:13.000 Uh, let's see here.

01:36:14.640 Albo Ace goes, bro.

01:36:15.500 Hearing, uh, hearing him try to explain himself is so cringe.

01:36:17.980 Even the average Joe can see right through it.

01:36:19.520 Facts.

01:36:20.360 Uh, Kwan McDonald says FaceTime.

01:36:22.300 And I think that was a follow up from his other question.

01:36:24.520 Um, Sephiroth 702.

01:36:26.320 If Cheyenne and the kids are radio stars and Chris Watts is a video.

01:36:29.500 Pause.

01:36:29.900 Okay.

01:36:30.180 Uh, Colorado enough, roughneck.

01:36:32.820 The tanks are three M three me N of Rogan one hour Northwest of Denver.

01:36:39.780 Okay.

01:36:40.680 Uh, he's saying where the tanks are.

01:36:42.180 Shout out.

01:36:42.600 RJ Robertson goes shout out to you.

01:36:44.560 Can you guys check out the documentary called the Liberty seven a Miami case where they tried

01:36:48.120 to scam Al Qaeda?

01:36:49.200 I think it would be a good documentary to review while you're researching another case.

01:36:52.420 You'll enjoy it.

01:36:53.640 Okay.

01:36:54.200 Liberty seven.

01:36:54.920 Yeah.

01:36:55.060 Uh, it looks like a terrorism case.

01:36:56.060 Larry seven.

01:36:57.100 Yeah.

01:36:57.320 I haven't done a terrorism case in a while.

01:36:59.240 I might do a Hezbollah one for you guys.

01:37:01.120 Can they recover FaceTimes?

01:37:02.480 Uh, I don't know if they can recover full on FaceTime calls cause it doesn't record, but

01:37:05.480 they could definitely recover that.

01:37:06.660 You've made a FaceTime call.

01:37:07.940 New England, not Northwest.

01:37:09.380 Okay.

01:37:09.620 Northeast.

01:37:10.060 He means not Northwest.

01:37:10.940 Okay.

01:37:11.500 And then flatbed day.

01:37:12.520 Yo, I would see you do an interview with Michael Francis, former mafia member.

01:37:16.960 Yeah, we could do that in the future.

01:37:18.500 Uh, Kevin, you Baldo goes, Hey, Maren, you should do the Roman Sosa case, which he faked

01:37:23.000 his death to catch his wife, hiring a hit man to murder him in 2015.

01:37:26.200 Okay.

01:37:26.520 Wow.

01:37:27.040 Interesting.

01:37:27.700 Okay.

01:37:28.060 Okay.

01:37:28.500 Uh, we did say you guys need to see the Dahlia Deppolito video.

01:37:30.940 If you guys want to talk about hit men, that was hilarious.

01:37:33.460 Yo, Maren, keep dropping all the fire content for us.

01:37:35.120 Your book, why women deserve less is a must read for every man.

01:37:36.920 Free the Tates.

01:37:37.420 I appreciate that.

01:37:38.260 And then, uh, West Bo goes, uh, JCS isn't making content now.

01:37:42.320 Sadly go to, yeah, he's a great channel, man.

01:37:44.120 Uh, hopefully he gets back in the game.

01:37:46.220 Uh, it makes content again.

01:37:47.700 Uh, did I catch, did I miss anything?

01:37:49.200 Oh, freshest dog.

01:37:50.240 Set of the three of fours to the polygraph for when they say their breakup was mutual.

01:37:53.220 Yeah, bro.

01:37:53.540 We all know that's a cap right there, man.

01:37:54.860 Not the cap.

01:37:55.600 When a girl says it was mutual, it means that the dude broke up with her nine out of 10

01:37:58.880 times, because girls love to say that they're the ones that break up, especially

01:38:01.860 since they initiate most of the breakups.

01:38:03.720 Maren, do the kai hatchet hitchhiker next?

01:38:06.060 First, never heard of it.

01:38:07.900 Me neither.

01:38:08.540 Have you, has that come across?

01:38:09.460 Okay.

01:38:09.700 I had to come across you.

01:38:10.920 And then Michael Meastroke, super sticker.

01:38:12.200 Thank you so much.

01:38:12.760 I appreciate that.

01:38:13.760 All right.

01:38:14.000 We're about to get into the third part of this broadcast, guys, with Chris Watts.

01:38:18.620 So, uh, we'll do a quick recap, actually.

01:38:20.740 Let's do a quick recap.

01:38:21.720 So, uh, BMF with Big Meat should be a dope episode.

01:38:24.500 Yes.

01:38:24.900 We're already on that one for y'all.

01:38:26.220 Uh, right.

01:38:26.980 We actually know exactly what we're going to cover.

01:38:28.800 Um, that one's going to come very soon.

01:38:30.800 It's just that we are trying to get that documentary and high quality for y'all, uh, because the

01:38:35.920 documentary we're going to use a little bit older, but it's very good.

01:38:38.860 Um, so, okay.

01:38:40.680 Quick little recap.

01:38:41.380 So, wife, uh, the wife's best friend calls Chris, aka Chris Watts, says, hey, I haven't

01:38:52.040 heard from your wife, blah, blah.

01:38:53.460 She's worried.

01:38:54.200 She noticed that the car is there, but she hasn't heard from her.

01:38:56.520 So, she calls Chris Watts.

01:38:57.760 He tells her, no, don't call the police, et cetera.

01:38:59.600 It's fine.

01:39:00.180 I'm going to come back.

01:39:01.220 She calls the police anyway.

01:39:02.260 Police show up.

01:39:02.820 Chris Watts shows up, displays strange behavior, as you guys saw in the body cam from before,

01:39:07.280 texting on his phone, not making direct eye contact, surveillance footage.

01:39:10.900 That might be iffy here and there.

01:39:13.000 Um, and he can't really explain himself.

01:39:14.420 So, the police bring him in for questioning, gives a bunch of more, uh, odd answers.

01:39:18.060 Then, uh, for one day of interviewing contradictory stories, et cetera, it doesn't make sense.

01:39:21.960 Then, the second day, he goes ahead, does a polygraph, fails a polygraph, and that's where

01:39:25.800 we are now.

01:39:26.620 Now, the police officers, the female detective who did the polygraph, and the male detective

01:39:30.340 that grilled him the first night, now they're going to go ahead and start confronting

01:39:33.520 him and push for a confession.

01:39:36.340 All right?

01:39:36.980 Dude, James Holmes, the movie teacher shooter, uh, Colorado.

01:39:40.000 Oh, yeah, on the dark night.

01:39:41.340 I've, I've heard of that one.

01:39:42.760 Um, cool.

01:39:43.720 So, we'll go back to the documentary, guys.

01:39:45.180 We got 2,000 plus y'all in here.

01:39:46.660 2,100 to be exact.

01:39:48.480 Like the video.

01:39:49.160 Let's get to 2,000 likes, guys.

01:39:50.380 I see 1.5.

01:39:51.520 There's no reason why we shouldn't be at 2,000 likes at this point.

01:39:54.540 We've been covering the case extensively.

01:39:56.300 Uh, let's go ahead and go into part three of this broadcast.

01:39:59.140 Angie, you got anything for the people before we go?

01:40:00.320 I actually, um, I've, they haven't mentioned any of the background of the story of the family

01:40:05.260 and the mistress and the wife and anything, and I think it's important, but I can, like,

01:40:10.120 break it down, like, after.

01:40:11.400 So, yeah.

01:40:12.060 Play the video.

01:40:12.520 Oh, you think it'll hurt the, okay.

01:40:13.920 You want to do it after?

01:40:14.780 Okay.

01:40:15.160 Cool.

01:40:15.320 Cool.

01:40:15.380 I didn't lie to you on that polygraph, I promise.

01:40:24.900 Uh, stop the cow.

01:40:27.240 Chris, I'm, I'm trying to stop.

01:40:29.980 It's time.

01:40:30.760 I, I'm just stop for a minute.

01:40:32.760 Take a deep breath.

01:40:34.820 I want you to take a deep breath right now.

01:40:36.700 There's a reason you feel sick to your stomach, but when people hold stuff inside, it makes

01:40:48.700 you physically ill, and I can just tell on your face, I can tell you, tell from the second

01:40:53.580 you walked in that you were wanting to just come clean and just be done with this.

01:40:58.920 This is a technique known as social exchange, an interpersonal persuasion strategy in which

01:41:04.260 the interrogator provides the suspect with a psychological reward in return for the information

01:41:09.300 they need.

01:41:10.060 In this case, she's trying to convince Chris that the alleviation of mental weight is a

01:41:14.840 worthy trade for a confession.

01:41:16.540 She does this in a manner that protects his self-esteem by giving him appreciative reinforcements.

01:41:21.600 And I appreciate that because you knew sitting down in that chair that you weren't going to

01:41:25.700 pass today, and you knew I was going to find out because I told you that, and then you continued

01:41:30.840 to say, knowing that you could, at the end, say, you know what?

01:41:36.460 I just need to get this off my chest.

01:41:38.260 Everything that I've told you, I did not lie on this polygraph.

01:41:42.180 I am, I don't know how much I could tell you right now.

01:41:47.160 Like, I did not.

01:41:48.260 It's not even an option right now.

01:41:50.420 You did not pass the polygraph, so I know you were being deceptive.

01:41:53.160 So that's not even an issue right now.

01:41:55.720 The issue right now is what happened to Shanann, Bella, and Celeste.

01:42:01.280 The following tactic is called the futility technique, a building block to induce a sense

01:42:06.300 in a suspect that any resistance on behalf of their cause is futile due to the overwhelming

01:42:11.260 evidence against them.

01:42:12.660 This was obviously not the case, as polygraphs are not admissible evidence, and Chris was in

01:42:17.980 fact still free to leave at this point.

01:42:20.360 That's the issue, right?

01:42:21.260 And just so you guys know, with the futility technique, I used to employ this a lot when

01:42:25.300 I was an agent myself, right?

01:42:26.420 But I was not as polite about it.

01:42:27.980 I would literally go in there sometimes and be like, listen, just like this.

01:42:32.080 Listen, man, I don't need your information.

01:42:34.900 I don't need your testimony.

01:42:36.180 I don't need this interview.

01:42:37.800 We already got you dead to rights.

01:42:39.140 I got pictures.

01:42:39.840 I got people that are cooperating against you.

01:42:41.660 It is what it is.

01:42:42.720 If you want to tell your side, fantastic.

01:42:44.380 But other than that, I really don't need your interview right now to indict you.

01:42:48.540 So you go ahead and pick what you want to do.

01:42:50.120 And I'll leave them there.

01:42:51.740 You know, put them in the jail, come back maybe a day or two later, right?

01:42:56.580 And then try again.

01:42:58.080 And sometimes when you put people in jail, they spend a night or two in there, the county

01:43:01.700 jail, it really changes their mindset.

01:43:04.360 And sometimes letting them know that you got them dead to rights works quite a bit, especially

01:43:08.980 when they want to be hardheaded, right?

01:43:11.560 But this is the importance of doing your own independent investigation where you're not

01:43:14.780 relying on a confession.

01:43:15.600 Because when you rely on a confession, oh, man, there's so many issues that could arise.

01:43:19.840 So that's what I would do when I would use the futility technique personally.

01:43:23.860 Let's get back into it.

01:43:25.240 Every investigator has their own tactic.

01:43:28.260 This is no longer an interview to collect information.

01:43:53.960 The steps of asking questions and receiving answers is over, and the interrogators are

01:43:58.500 now in the process of leading the suspect into a state of mental exhaustion.

01:44:02.520 The detectives will attentively watch for denials and stop them before they can be voiced.

01:44:07.100 Letting the suspect deny his guilt will only increase his confidence and prolong his cerebral

01:44:12.080 stamina.

01:44:12.700 And that's true, guys.

01:44:18.920 Whenever people are lying like that, that's when I would give them the futility technique

01:44:22.300 that I said, yo, listen, I already got you dead to rights, dude.

01:44:24.720 I don't really...

01:44:25.760 If you're going to lie, it is what it is.

01:44:28.160 I don't need your testimony.

01:44:29.080 And then I'll just end it there and just throw his ass in jail.

01:44:31.100 Come back a day or two later after they spend some time behind bars, because that always

01:44:35.240 changes people's opinion.

01:44:36.580 But in this case, they're going to keep trying to push for the confession.

01:44:39.740 But the more they deny, you don't want them to get that confidence where they're like,

01:44:44.540 oh, no, because a lot of these crooks, you know, they'll believe their own lie.

01:44:47.360 And they'll sit there in delusion, and you don't want to deal with that crap.

01:44:50.000 It's annoying.

01:44:50.960 Initially, you're going to go, I don't know what you're talking about.

01:44:53.320 I didn't do anything.

01:44:54.740 That's normal.

01:44:55.820 I would expect that.

01:44:57.020 That's a natural reaction that someone's going to initially lie about something like that

01:45:00.780 and then eventually tell the truth.

01:45:02.580 So this is your eventually telling the truth time.

01:45:05.380 This is where the rubber meets the road, Chris.

01:45:11.120 Like, don't let this continue any longer, please.

01:45:14.900 I'm not trying to make anything continue.

01:45:18.100 I want them back home.

01:45:21.160 But you know they're not coming back home.

01:45:23.760 You know that.

01:45:24.880 I don't know in the back of my head.

01:45:26.420 I hope they come back home.

01:45:28.540 But you know they're not.

01:45:30.140 Chris, Kim, and I are confused.

01:45:31.860 Yeah.

01:45:33.120 And here's what we're confused about.

01:45:34.300 I told you that we've done some work overnight.

01:45:38.460 I told you that we've got a lot of leads.

01:45:40.320 Okay.

01:45:40.540 That wasn't a lie.

01:45:41.720 We know a lot more than we think we do.

01:45:43.880 Okay.

01:45:44.360 The dossier technique is a variant of the futility technique.

01:45:47.860 The only difference being that the detectives are far more cryptic and often deceptive about

01:45:52.720 the evidence they have.

01:45:54.000 This will hint at things in a vague manner for the purpose of escalating a suspect's uncertainty.

01:45:59.180 Where are they?

01:46:01.100 I don't know where they're at.

01:46:03.020 I do not know where they're at.

01:46:12.320 If I could have my babies back home right now, I would.

01:46:15.800 I want them back.

01:46:17.340 I want everybody back.

01:46:18.400 That's a God honest truth.

01:46:21.020 Although the detectives want to intensify Chris's psychological stress levels, they do not want

01:46:26.140 him to become reactively agitated, as this could lead him to objecting and resisting every

01:46:30.280 step of the way.

01:46:31.180 And the interrogation will never get off the ground.

01:46:33.480 It also significantly increases the chances of him requesting legal counsel and ending

01:46:37.940 the interrogation outright.

01:46:39.200 This elicits the interrogator to change approach and utilize what is known as the ego up technique,

01:46:45.400 where the detective will build on the self-respect of the suspect through positive reinforcement.

01:46:49.840 It is very surprising to me, and it warms my heart that you're the type of dad who can pack

01:46:56.040 a bag in the morning.

01:46:57.400 Yo, y'all got Angie dead.

01:46:58.820 You guys are roasting this detective, this female detective, and she's in the back fucking

01:47:02.280 dying right now.

01:47:03.460 I had to mute her mic.

01:47:08.740 Yo, yo, this chat got no chill, man.

01:47:12.240 Literally losing her sides over here, bro.

01:47:17.960 Yo.

01:47:20.760 Y'all cooking this chick, man.

01:47:22.860 Yo, like the video, man, for the best chat ever.

01:47:25.580 2,200 of y'all in here, man.

01:47:26.840 Let's get back into it.

01:47:28.820 You know what you're supposed to put in there?

01:47:31.020 You know just what to put in there as a backup in case they have an accident.

01:47:34.260 Okay?

01:47:34.600 You know what the clothes to put in there?

01:47:36.300 You know what they have for breakfast?

01:47:37.460 You know what they have for a snack and a dinner and a nighttime snack?

01:47:40.600 You can tell me the book you read to your daughters.

01:47:43.840 Okay?

01:47:44.620 I know you love them.

01:47:45.960 But you weren't here today lying about something else.

01:47:49.380 So we need to talk about that, okay?

01:47:51.580 That's your daughter.

01:47:53.380 I know.

01:47:54.900 And this is very good.

01:47:57.520 I saw her, took my breath away, and I never thought in a million years that could happen.

01:48:04.760 I know.

01:48:05.040 I never felt that way about anybody in my lifetime.

01:48:08.800 I'm not proud of it.

01:48:09.900 But she's used me of it.

01:48:12.020 I've denied it.

01:48:14.080 I actually just on her and I felt horrible for it.

01:48:17.580 She was pregnant.

01:48:18.960 And it was, I don't want to, I didn't hurt her.

01:48:28.480 You're doing a good job.

01:48:29.340 This is the Chris that I knew would come out today.

01:48:31.880 This is the Chris who tells the truth because you're a truth teller.

01:48:33.960 I don't think this girl did anything to hurt anybody.

01:48:37.920 When you leave her out of it, I'll get back to your wife and your daughters.

01:48:41.260 Okay.

01:48:41.740 Where are they?

01:48:43.020 I do not know.

01:48:44.240 Scoliosis, Susie.

01:48:50.920 Someone said, W. Karen, but L. chiropractor.

01:48:54.300 What the fuck?

01:48:55.780 That was what I was holding.

01:48:56.940 You know, the chiropractor got no, the chiropractor got no chiropractor, man.

01:49:01.560 I didn't know, like, what I could, I know, Chris, in the interview today, you weren't

01:49:07.220 asked about infidelity.

01:49:09.620 You were asked about, that was, I was holding back from last night.

01:49:13.340 That's not what you feel today.

01:49:16.080 That's not how that works.

01:49:17.300 Here's a challenge that we have.

01:49:19.580 We knew about Mickey, and so we didn't need to ask you about her in the polygraph.

01:49:23.760 We just didn't need to, because we knew, okay?

01:49:26.520 And so, that's why we didn't ask you, because we knew the answer, okay?

01:49:31.000 We're very, very...

01:49:32.080 Someone said the irony of his breath away comment.

01:49:36.120 Someone said Beto Jusquit, Scoliosis.

01:49:39.100 What happened?

01:49:39.880 Someone said Beto Jusquit, Scoliosis.

01:49:42.140 It's Beto Jusquit, Scoliosis.

01:49:46.220 It should have been the happiest time of your marriage, okay?

01:49:51.580 You and Shanann, it should have been the happiest time.

01:49:54.600 She's making a little money, she's making good money.

01:49:56.640 You're making great money, you both have a job, you have beautiful kids, you have a

01:50:00.420 beautiful house, you're in Colorado, clean air, good people, okay?

01:50:04.040 And on top of that, you look pretty good now.

01:50:07.580 You're pretty fit, okay?

01:50:08.900 This should have been a time in your marriage where you guys were happy and thriving and

01:50:13.700 productive, okay?

01:50:14.980 And I believe that Shanann's the reason none of that happened.

01:50:18.520 This is called the how and why solution, a technique that allows the suspect to admit

01:50:23.160 a lesser act and blame the victims, while at the same time minimizing the crime and motivations

01:50:28.280 of his actions.

01:50:29.940 I believe that she's a controlling person.

01:50:33.940 Maybe doesn't listen to you as much as she should.

01:50:35.480 I think that she can do whatever she wants and you can't.

01:50:42.160 I used to do this a lot, guys, when I was an agent myself.

01:50:44.260 Like, if I caught someone smuggling drugs or something like that, I'd be like, listen,

01:50:47.000 man, it's not like you killed anybody, you're just moving some dope, it ain't that big a

01:50:49.420 deal.

01:50:49.760 Boom.

01:50:50.280 Right?

01:50:50.500 That's called minimizing.

01:50:54.460 Okay.

01:50:55.460 I think if you were to go to a restaurant, she would order whatever the hell she wants.

01:50:58.740 It's hard to minimize, though, when a guy killed his family.

01:51:01.000 That's an L.

01:51:01.460 And as soon as you order a nice steak, she says, well, buddy, it's because you're a good

01:51:07.420 person.

01:51:08.080 And I think that she started on the path to leave the marriage.

01:51:13.420 It's ironic that we're talking about you and Nikki.

01:51:16.060 I think that she was the one who started on that path first.

01:51:21.900 What do you think about that?

01:51:24.940 I wouldn't have thought about that.

01:51:27.360 Yeah.

01:51:27.660 The other thing I think is interesting is, even though she is that type of person that's

01:51:33.640 controlling, doesn't listen, does what she wants, is walking away from her kids, here

01:51:39.660 you are defending her.

01:51:41.300 Because to your core, you want to take care of the people you love.

01:51:46.040 Okay.

01:51:47.500 And that's the reason why we want to give you an opportunity today.

01:51:52.240 To just help us find them.

01:51:55.780 Okay.

01:51:57.100 Chris, right now your dad's outside.

01:51:58.760 He flew across the country to help you.

01:52:01.120 Okay.

01:52:02.680 Oh, hold on.

01:52:05.380 They unlocked the secret.

01:52:06.540 They brought his dad in.

01:52:08.540 You're lying to him.

01:52:09.440 You're lying to everyone you talk to.

01:52:23.460 And they all bought it.

01:52:27.900 Will you please help us find your babies?

01:52:31.420 I want to find them.

01:52:33.020 I've told you you're over and over.

01:52:34.580 I want to find everyone.

01:52:36.320 Can you understand that some of this just doesn't make sense to us?

01:52:41.580 How is it possible that a woman and two kids are just completely gone off the face of the

01:52:45.460 earth?

01:52:47.600 I promise you.

01:52:48.300 I have nothing on my hands that's...

01:52:52.200 I did nothing to those kids or her to make them vanish.

01:52:56.560 As the interrogation goes on, the constant and relentless psychological pressure essentially

01:53:01.680 puts Chris at the edge of his ability to function cognitively.

01:53:05.020 It's a slow and methodical process of breaking down his resistance while maintaining a balance

01:53:09.620 of pugnacious and reassuring psychological techniques.

01:53:12.760 I just find it hard to hear you talk about having this emotional, you know, conversation

01:53:21.020 with Shanann and you're bawling and crying together and you have not shed one tear in two days

01:53:27.900 that you've been here.

01:53:29.040 Not one.

01:53:30.260 Al acting skills, man.

01:53:32.700 Even they're catching it.

01:53:34.920 I help me understand that because I don't get it.

01:53:38.200 You're these are your baby girls and you have not shed one tear over them not being around.

01:53:49.800 Chris, I lose my four year old in the store for 10 seconds and I start to go panic, panic.

01:53:57.140 I have not seen any of that from you at all.

01:54:02.940 Help me understand that.

01:54:04.420 I love those girls.

01:54:05.420 And I'm sure a bunch of you guys in the chat that have kids or it might be parents, mothers, fathers, etc.

01:54:09.900 You guys understand, you know, the panic of if you can't find your kids.

01:54:13.380 So you guys already know that this guy's an L actor to another degree.

01:54:17.560 I would never do any of this because I haven't shed a tear.

01:54:21.080 Yeah, that's weird.

01:54:22.360 Is that weird?

01:54:22.940 Don't, don't look into that like I don't love my kids or my wife.

01:54:28.980 Explain to me.

01:54:29.540 You're crying with your wife that you're leaving her.

01:54:31.820 Yeah.

01:54:32.640 But you don't cry that you're two little babies.

01:54:35.220 I'm hoping they're still around somewhere.

01:54:36.820 I'm hoping they're still somewhere.

01:54:38.700 Now he starts to cry.

01:54:40.160 Hmm.

01:54:41.360 What the hell?

01:54:42.740 Boomboca!

01:54:43.140 In the next moments, you will see step seven of the Reed interrogation technique known as the alternative question, where the suspect is given an alternative and far more morally acceptable choice for what happened.

01:54:55.180 Chris, did she can do something to them?

01:54:57.040 And the Reed technique, guys, is a very old law enforcement style of interviews where it's not really as practiced as much now, but a lot of agencies still utilize it.

01:55:04.580 And there's still good, very good parts of it.

01:55:06.240 No, I don't know.

01:55:08.260 I'm serious.

01:55:09.260 I have no clue.

01:55:10.280 But you wouldn't know because they didn't leave the house.

01:55:13.720 Did Shanann do something to them and then did you feel like you had to do something to Shanann?

01:55:20.680 They were at the house when I left.

01:55:23.500 They were there.

01:55:25.180 They weren't there.

01:55:26.540 They didn't leave.

01:55:27.440 They vanished.

01:55:28.060 The only way they could have left is in your truck.

01:55:37.980 Did Shanann do something?

01:55:39.640 Something happened in the house that you know about.

01:55:42.060 We know that something happened to all three of them.

01:55:45.440 But I want to know, did something happen to these baby girls first that you had to take into your own hands and deal with?

01:55:52.860 You had to clean it up for us, Shanann.

01:55:54.920 Chris, you've got to tell us.

01:55:56.000 There's something that happened to these baby girls.

01:55:59.940 Look at them.

01:56:00.700 I know.

01:56:02.640 Before you came in, I was watching videos.

01:56:07.920 We have no doubt you love these girls with all of your heart.

01:56:14.100 Stop the cap.

01:56:15.020 No, that's a lie.

01:56:15.900 You wouldn't have smothered them then.

01:56:17.300 Guys, we got 2.2K, y'all watching?

01:56:19.900 We only need 400 more likes to hit 2,000, man.

01:56:22.220 Let's hit 2,000 so we can hit almost 90% engagement, guys.

01:56:24.800 Again, it's really important for the YouTube algorithm to get the likes up on the video.

01:56:30.340 Also, comment below for the algo.

01:56:32.400 That really helps with this video as well.

01:56:33.700 Like I said before, y'all don't go to donate a dollar.

01:56:35.320 The only thing I ask is like the video, subscribe to the channel, comment below for the algo.

01:56:40.020 I have no doubt, but we make mistakes.

01:56:46.820 That's okay.

01:56:49.300 It's what we do with those mistakes that make us who we are.

01:56:55.540 Chris, it seems like you're thinking about her right now.

01:56:57.560 What are you thinking about?

01:56:59.540 She couldn't have.

01:57:00.460 I feel like you cleaned up for her.

01:57:11.020 I feel like that's the type of guy that you are.

01:57:17.320 Chris, this is a weight that's going to be on you for the rest of your life until we resolve it tonight.

01:57:21.300 Unless we can talk about this more tonight, we're going to follow you forever.

01:57:28.320 I promise you, when you start talking to us, you will feel better.

01:57:31.620 Chris, we're giving you a lifeline right now.

01:57:33.420 You need to take it.

01:57:34.220 You need to reach out and take it.

01:57:37.380 This is a very critical moment in the interrogation, guys.

01:57:40.640 Chris, you took them out of the house with their blankets and their animals.

01:57:48.380 That's because you cared.

01:57:52.860 That's what a caring dad does.

01:57:54.840 And you either cleaned up after Shanam or you made the mistake.

01:57:59.060 So you can see here they're utilizing two different types of techniques here.

01:58:03.080 Alternative question, the ego of technique.

01:58:05.660 They're going to throw in a dossier technique here very soon where, hey, we already got information on this, et cetera.

01:58:10.640 So let's see how they employ this.

01:58:12.860 I want to believe that maybe Shanann did it and you felt compelled to fix this so Shanann didn't look bad.

01:58:22.860 That's what I want to believe.

01:58:26.960 But I don't know.

01:58:27.820 You're not telling me that.

01:58:28.840 So it makes me think of the worst.

01:58:30.660 Like, did you not do anything wrong?

01:58:33.700 I did not do anything.

01:58:36.900 What did Shanann do, though?

01:58:39.360 Tell us, Chris.

01:58:40.640 Chicks are crazy.

01:58:44.080 Can I have a talk to my dad or something?

01:58:46.140 Absolutely.

01:58:46.840 Come on.

01:58:47.580 Do you want to bring him in here?

01:58:49.120 No.

01:58:49.980 I just can't talk to my dad if I can't fool across the country.

01:58:53.920 You crack him.

01:58:55.060 How about this?

01:58:57.280 If we brought your dad in here, would you please tell him what happened?

01:59:01.200 And you need to realize that your dad is not going to stop loving you no matter what you tell him.

01:59:05.760 You are.

01:59:06.000 Very interesting technique that they're utilizing, man.

01:59:08.580 Using the heartstrings from family.

01:59:10.400 Yeah.

01:59:10.660 Child.

01:59:12.540 And you'll not stop loving you.

01:59:16.040 Never.

01:59:16.860 Never.

01:59:17.340 And this is not the last chapter in anyone's story.

01:59:20.320 At all.

01:59:21.380 Okay.

01:59:21.620 Okay.

01:59:21.680 Hey, Chris, we're going to let you have however much time you need, okay?

01:59:29.800 Sure.

01:59:30.400 You want me to send her to help?

01:59:31.880 Yes.

01:59:32.820 Okay.

01:59:33.960 Tell us what's going on in the evening, or?

01:59:35.520 And this polygraph failed it, failed it there, because there's too much emotion.

01:59:47.560 Anything else you want to tell me what's going on?

01:59:50.160 What I have to do, I don't know if anything.

01:59:52.680 When we have that conversation that morning, it's, you know, it's emotional, and it's total

02:00:03.780 thoughts, reparation, and everything like that.

02:00:05.680 Mm-hmm.

02:00:15.680 What happened after that?

02:00:18.100 I mean, I'm downstairs.

02:00:19.260 I don't want to protect her.

02:00:28.860 What?

02:00:29.320 I don't want to protect her.

02:00:30.880 Oh, boy.

02:00:31.660 Here we go.

02:00:32.680 All right, guys.

02:00:33.380 I need y'all, before we continue this on, because we're about to get into some interesting stuff

02:00:37.300 here, we're at 2,259, y'all, okay?

02:00:41.260 We're almost at 2,500, almost.

02:00:43.700 I need y'all to like the video.

02:00:45.760 Gets us 2,000 likes.

02:00:46.920 Again, I hate doing this, but you guys never like liking the videos, man.

02:00:50.320 Stop being ninja watchers.

02:00:51.520 Take the mask off your face.

02:00:53.060 Like the video.

02:00:53.980 Subscribe to the channel.

02:00:55.080 Comment below for the algo.

02:00:56.340 I hate that I have to do this, man.

02:00:57.840 But y'all don't like the guy in the video.

02:00:59.700 Like the video.

02:01:00.680 All right?

02:01:01.200 It helps with the algorithm.

02:01:04.080 And then also, I'll hit these chats real fast, because this is a very important part

02:01:07.340 here that we're about to see.

02:01:08.600 Twisted Talks with Noah.

02:01:09.380 It goes, I know it's super old, and there isn't footage of the guy, but H.A.

02:01:12.940 Jones was the first serial killer in America.

02:01:14.820 Has some wild stories.

02:01:15.660 Consider him, please.

02:01:16.120 I have him down.

02:01:16.960 You have him on the list?

02:01:17.800 Yeah.

02:01:18.220 Shout out to Angie.

02:01:19.200 Marin, have you heard of the baseline killer from Arizona?

02:01:21.200 I have not.

02:01:22.720 Yeah, serial killer.

02:01:23.780 That's also highly requested, by the way.

02:01:25.520 Okay.

02:01:26.180 Just like the video on my TV, iPad, laptop, and phone.

02:01:28.620 City boys, we have shout out to you, my friend.

02:01:29.980 That's all you gotta do.

02:01:32.740 Log in from other accounts, guys, and just like the video.

02:01:35.000 Get us up to 2K, and we'll be good.

02:01:37.160 Detective of Notre Dame probably homie hopped that whole apartment.

02:01:41.540 Okay, that was from Fresh's Dog.

02:01:43.320 Jerome, if I was a politician, I would allow professional fighters three minutes with criminals

02:01:46.560 like this, put it on pay-per-view, and tax it, everyone wins.

02:01:49.240 That's actually a very good idea.

02:01:51.620 Can you do the Murder, Inc. Fed case?

02:01:53.360 They ended up beating them.

02:01:54.080 Yes, they did.

02:01:54.740 I know it was a money laundering case with Irv Gotti and Ken, the Supreme team.

02:01:59.120 I'll probably have to do both of those together with the Supreme team.

02:02:03.220 But yeah, good, Angie.

02:02:05.240 Can you write that one down, Murder, Inc.?

02:02:06.660 That was a rap-hip-hop group, or music label down here.

02:02:10.420 But yeah, guys, again, like the video.

02:02:12.880 Let's get back into this.

02:02:14.000 As you all know, the father's in the interrogation room now, and they're talking.

02:02:16.520 You don't want to protect me.

02:02:23.240 I don't know what else you say.

02:02:23.820 Oh, those are the ones you need.

02:02:38.240 Uh-huh.

02:02:46.780 Oh, God.

02:02:50.600 I Yog?

02:02:55.860 Oh.

02:02:58.300 Oh, God.

02:03:01.440 Oh.

02:03:07.440 So he puts the wife to blame

02:03:37.440 And I'm going back upstairs and she goes

02:03:41.440 And I can see you right

02:03:43.440 She turned up

02:03:47.440 I'm choking her for that

02:03:49.440 Cece's one of the children's

02:03:51.440 Yes, Celeste

02:03:53.440 Where's she going?

02:03:57.440 There

02:03:59.440 There in blue

02:04:01.440 She choking her for that

02:04:03.440 Stop the cow!

02:04:05.440 Listen, God only

02:04:09.620 So at this point

02:04:11.720 The police have a confession

02:04:13.660 That he at least killed the mother

02:04:15.800 Okay, at this point

02:04:16.900 But he's trying to claim it was in retaliation

02:04:19.840 For

02:04:21.020 Her killing the children because

02:04:23.620 He wanted to break up with her

02:04:24.760 Which quite frankly is

02:04:27.580 You know

02:04:29.400 It doesn't make sense, but the detectives now

02:04:31.480 Remember guys, the detectives are watching this interview

02:04:33.600 Live as it's going on

02:04:35.440 So now they're going to re-strategize

02:04:37.440 And they got one foot in the door now

02:04:38.860 At this point

02:04:39.320 I think at this point

02:04:55.140 The grandfather knows

02:04:56.020 Or the father knows

02:04:57.060 His son is going to prison for the rest of his life

02:04:59.080 He knows it's a wrap

02:05:00.580 You know, just

02:05:01.760 It's over

02:05:02.900 He ain't

02:05:04.460 See, now you want to get a lawyer

02:05:22.800 Too late

02:05:23.460 There you go

02:05:32.140 Yeah, man

02:05:33.920 Less than 10 seconds after the mention

02:05:39.400 Yeah, she's happy

02:05:40.240 Why are you reassuring him?

02:05:41.520 With that hunchback

02:05:41.800 Because they got

02:05:42.780 They're halfway through now

02:05:43.840 At least he got her

02:05:45.560 They got him to admit to killing the wife

02:05:47.340 Which, you know

02:05:47.820 Murder one at least

02:05:48.720 Right?

02:05:49.500 At least one murder

02:05:50.100 Excuse me

02:05:50.520 Of the word lawyer

02:05:51.860 The detectives re-enter the room

02:05:53.560 And immediately reinforce Chris

02:05:55.400 With non-verbal empathic communication

02:05:57.780 Because they don't want him to lawyer up at this point

02:05:59.960 Immediately divert Chris' attention

02:06:02.100 From the well-informed advice of his father

02:06:04.380 To their own appreciative reception

02:06:06.320 Of his contemporary admittance

02:06:07.980 Guys, start with the jokes, please

02:06:13.520 Thank you

02:06:15.320 Can you tell us what you're done?

02:06:18.360 She was from there with her

02:06:20.060 On top of her

02:06:22.520 Freaked out

02:06:26.940 Around America

02:06:30.980 On top of her

02:06:31.860 What'd you do?

02:06:34.520 She was blue

02:06:35.440 That was my babies

02:06:37.200 Oh, no, my kids

02:06:38.900 What happened?

02:06:40.880 Oh, no, my kids

02:07:07.720 I had no idea of what's good

02:07:13.060 What's shaking

02:07:16.180 Both my kids

02:07:18.480 They're blue

02:07:19.300 And they're gone

02:07:20.640 But horrible for what I did

02:07:23.380 And what's good

02:07:25.020 I didn't know

02:07:28.380 I took the hard part

02:07:31.380 When you'd like to teach us

02:07:34.320 You have to keep them out of the cold

02:07:37.200 At that first location

02:07:40.240 I went to that day

02:07:41.200 I don't know what to do

02:07:43.660 They're at the first location

02:07:45.320 I went to that day

02:07:46.280 I know

02:07:47.200 I didn't know what

02:07:48.140 And remember, guys

02:07:48.940 He's an oil field worker

02:07:49.980 I fucking do

02:07:50.980 Like, none of this

02:07:53.180 None of this made sense

02:07:54.400 Why would she hear

02:07:56.040 My fucking girls

02:07:57.020 I'm sorry

02:07:58.960 I know

02:08:01.380 I know you are

02:08:03.420 I know you came in today

02:08:07.400 To do the right thing

02:08:08.300 Where'd you put them?

02:08:11.540 To get them out there?

02:08:14.280 In my truck

02:08:15.060 Did Shanann fight back at all?

02:08:18.620 When you did that?

02:08:20.500 The rage that I had

02:08:21.580 After seeing that

02:08:22.440 I

02:08:22.660 Not much

02:08:25.120 I didn't know what else

02:08:27.340 All right

02:08:28.420 This is very common with criminals

02:08:29.540 Where they'll justify their crime

02:08:31.500 With something that

02:08:33.340 You know

02:08:33.740 Brought about some crazy passion

02:08:35.400 Which in this case

02:08:36.100 He's alleging

02:08:37.100 That the wife

02:08:37.920 Choked the kids out

02:08:39.360 He came up

02:08:39.980 Saw they were blue

02:08:40.580 And couldn't control himself

02:08:41.520 I know

02:08:44.380 I didn't know what else to do

02:08:46.060 I was so scared

02:08:47.900 I was like

02:08:50.620 What?

02:08:51.040 I just did this

02:08:51.660 Dad just did that

02:08:52.720 What do I do?

02:08:54.600 Right

02:08:54.840 You were in a tough spot

02:08:56.600 What can you do, right?

02:09:00.000 Your body

02:09:00.700 Just kind of

02:09:01.220 Take over

02:09:01.740 What's going to happen?

02:09:10.340 We're going to help them

02:09:11.080 Get out of there

02:09:11.920 Chris, I know

02:09:13.120 They're gone

02:09:13.480 But they're still your babies

02:09:14.440 And you're still their dad

02:09:15.580 And you're one of them

02:09:16.380 So the detectives

02:09:17.900 Are playing along here

02:09:18.760 So that they can find the bodies

02:09:20.040 Okay?

02:09:20.660 Because at this point

02:09:21.220 They know that

02:09:22.160 He knows where the bodies are

02:09:23.280 Whether he says that he

02:09:24.760 You know

02:09:25.320 The wife killed the kids

02:09:26.440 Or he did

02:09:26.860 That's irrelevant

02:09:27.400 Because they'll be able

02:09:28.140 To figure that out

02:09:28.740 With the forensics

02:09:29.360 So now their goal

02:09:30.800 They'll play along

02:09:31.720 With his stupid story

02:09:32.580 Just so that they can

02:09:33.600 Find the bodies

02:09:34.260 And prove

02:09:35.520 That he's the actual killer

02:09:36.640 Because trust me

02:09:37.100 They don't believe that

02:09:37.720 You know

02:09:38.140 The wife did it

02:09:40.020 More L acting

02:09:44.120 By the way

02:09:44.760 Translation

02:10:03.200 They're going to get

02:10:04.000 The forensic squad ready

02:10:05.220 The crime scene investigators

02:10:06.540 They're going to get

02:10:07.120 A bunch of people

02:10:07.920 Prepared so that

02:10:10.020 They can go out

02:10:10.520 And find the bodies

02:10:11.140 And exhume them

02:10:14.040 So the dad actually

02:10:35.500 Believes them guys

02:10:36.280 The father actually

02:10:37.460 Believes his nonsensical story

02:10:38.920 But remember

02:10:39.380 The dad wasn't present

02:10:40.520 Throughout this whole thing

02:10:41.660 He just flew in

02:10:42.300 So he doesn't really

02:10:42.800 Know all the facts

02:10:43.540 No, no

02:11:10.900 We need to get Abdul with the rocks on this one, man.

02:11:22.620 This guy.

02:11:40.900 So it sounds like, I mean it feels like to me, now we know pretty well how to go get him.

02:11:54.020 Is there anything else we need to know?

02:11:59.660 What do you think of that question?

02:12:08.660 Put my family down, put my dad down, put my mom, sister, nephew, niches, friends, co-workers.

02:12:19.660 Can I ask you another tough question?

02:12:25.660 Can you just get it all on the table?

02:12:29.660 When you see a shenan choking, strangling for you.

02:12:38.660 So they're playing along with his story.

02:12:40.660 Why?

02:12:41.660 Because they want to get a solid groundwork, right?

02:12:43.660 Locking him into a story even though it doesn't make sense because they know when they find

02:12:47.660 the bodies it's going to show otherwise.

02:12:49.660 Get her off of his leg.

02:12:50.660 Did you think about calling an ambulance?

02:12:56.660 She's actually too bad and they're blue and limp.

02:13:00.660 I've never seen something like that in my life.

02:13:04.660 I mean she's just like way over, like nothing was, she wasn't moving at all.

02:13:10.660 No gas but breath.

02:13:12.660 It's just totally just blue.

02:13:15.660 After the baseline information of Chris's version of events is gathered, he is now locked

02:13:20.660 into an alibi and timeline of affairs that forensics will subsequently examine and dissect in ways

02:13:28.660 so they can use it against him.

02:13:29.660 The tone of the interrogation then reverts back from information gathering to a confrontational

02:13:34.660 nature.

02:13:35.660 So Chris, I'm doing this job for a long time.

02:13:37.660 I know.

02:13:38.660 I know a lot about psychology and as far as like what people are thinking.

02:13:46.660 Most parents will never even want to fathom that their kid is dead.

02:13:52.660 Even if their kid's stiff blue in bed and stiff like been dead all night, they still call

02:13:57.660 an ambulance to see if someone can revive their child.

02:14:02.660 When they, when the ambulance gets there and they're like, gosh, their kid's been dead

02:14:07.660 all night.

02:14:08.660 Like there's nothing we can do.

02:14:09.660 And parents are like, what are you, why are you not doing something?

02:14:11.660 What are you talking about?

02:14:12.660 So that's what I, that's what we're used to.

02:14:14.660 So I just, that's why I want you to explain to me like what was going on in your head and

02:14:18.660 The phrase I felt for what she, what she did and just took over.

02:14:25.660 I just, I would hate for Shanann to get a bad rap if she didn't have anything to put in.

02:14:32.660 You know, it's not fair enough.

02:14:34.660 It's not fair.

02:14:36.660 There is no technical term for this approach, yet it's a clear attempt by the detective to

02:14:41.660 interconnect to the suspect's sense of morality, which is always under the assumption that

02:14:45.660 they have any.

02:14:46.660 So you're good with the public knowing that Shanann killed her daughter?

02:15:01.660 I did not hurt these girls.

02:15:02.660 Are you okay with the public knowing that Shanann killed her daughter?

02:15:07.660 Chris, I'm not sure I believe you.

02:15:10.660 Again, referring to the kids as these girls, these kids.

02:15:13.660 Very strange behavior.

02:15:14.660 Are you sure Shanann didn't catch you?

02:15:16.660 Oh my God, no.

02:15:18.660 Don't get mad.

02:15:20.660 But what it looks like is that you found a new life.

02:15:25.660 And the only way to get that new life was to get rid of your old life.

02:15:28.660 Oh, oh boy.

02:15:30.660 Gotcha, bitch.

02:15:31.660 Yeah, you wanted to keep smashing that girl without any problems, man.

02:15:34.660 You wanted a new life.

02:15:35.660 And I think that you killed these girls before their mom came home and then killed her man.

02:15:44.660 That's what we're-

02:15:45.660 They said Chris pleaded guilty to these exact charges two months later.

02:15:48.660 We're kind of left.

02:15:49.660 That's what we have to believe because it just doesn't make sense.

02:15:52.660 I mean, to her point, if I walked in and my kid was decapitated, I'd call an ambulance.

02:15:58.660 Right?

02:15:59.660 Knowing there's no hope.

02:16:01.660 It just doesn't make sense.

02:16:03.660 It just doesn't add up.

02:16:05.660 So, either you're-

02:16:07.660 Three Diglets asked a fantastic question.

02:16:09.660 Why couldn't he just smash both?

02:16:11.660 Yeah, you're right!

02:16:12.660 Yeah!

02:16:13.660 Come on, man!

02:16:14.660 Should've just kept cheating!

02:16:16.660 Who would've been fine?

02:16:18.660 Had his kids still, had his wife, had the side piece.

02:16:21.660 But this guy had to be a simp and go all the way and hit him with the-

02:16:25.660 Fatality!

02:16:26.660 For some girl that don't even like him.

02:16:27.660 Now he's in jail with some other guy-

02:16:29.660 Get over here!

02:16:30.660 And that's an L!

02:16:31.660 You stupid!

02:16:32.660 Holy!

02:16:36.660 This monster on the shelf, I just want this young hot girlfriend.

02:16:40.660 So I'm gonna kill everyone and hope it works out.

02:16:43.660 Or something.

02:16:45.660 So, I think we're very, very close to the truth, but not hysteria.

02:16:50.660 So if you're not that monster-

02:16:52.660 I'm not.

02:16:53.660 I'm monster.

02:16:54.660 So what's gonna happen when their cause of death comes back to you?

02:16:58.660 For the girls?

02:16:59.660 It's not going to.

02:17:00.660 Okay.

02:17:01.660 You shouldn't?

02:17:02.660 I'm 100% positive it's not gonna come back to me.

02:17:05.660 And what happens when a coroner looks and says it sees your fingerprints on her head?

02:17:10.660 It's not gonna be my fingerprints.

02:17:12.660 Okay.

02:17:13.660 What's it gonna be?

02:17:14.660 It's gonna be shenanth.

02:17:16.660 Why take their bodies out of the house and bury them?

02:17:20.660 I was scared.

02:17:21.660 I didn't know what else to do.

02:17:23.660 Okay.

02:17:24.660 Nothing, nothing, nothing was gonna-

02:17:28.660 I didn't know what to do.

02:17:30.660 Yeah.

02:17:31.660 So I honestly didn't know what to do.

02:17:33.660 Scared of what?

02:17:34.660 Scared of what everything was gonna look like.

02:17:37.660 There's-

02:17:38.660 My two babies are gone.

02:17:39.660 And I just did that to my wife.

02:17:41.660 And I was the only one left in the house.

02:17:43.660 What do you expect is gonna happen?

02:17:45.660 Yeah.

02:17:46.660 Yo, the RP really does save lives, guys.

02:17:47.660 If this dude was aware, he could have made that chick, his side chick, had his wife,

02:17:52.660 you know, or just been honest, yo, I want to have other chicks.

02:17:55.660 You know, he's not a bad looking guy, Paws.

02:17:57.660 You guys are gonna see here that a bunch of chicks were actually simping on him when he went to prison.

02:18:01.660 I'll talk about that here in a little bit.

02:18:02.660 But-

02:18:03.660 That's a phenomenon.

02:18:04.660 Yeah.

02:18:05.660 What was that you said?

02:18:06.660 It is a phenomenon.

02:18:07.660 Yeah.

02:18:08.660 For serial killers.

02:18:09.660 Girls love weirdos like this.

02:18:10.660 But, um, yeah, dude.

02:18:11.660 Like, he could have easily, like, done this and had two girls and been able to, like, make it happen.

02:18:15.660 Since he was a simp and he didn't understand female nature, he thought, oh, I just gotta get rid of my wife so that I can be with this other girl.

02:18:21.660 I could have had them both, you dummy.

02:18:22.660 Shit.

02:18:23.660 Fucking idiot.

02:18:24.660 Stupid.

02:18:25.660 Hey, well, it is what it is, man.

02:18:27.660 He really thought women deserve more, so that's why he ended up doing this dumb stuff.

02:18:30.660 It did look bad, right?

02:18:33.660 I mean, this was a nightmare.

02:18:36.660 Yeah.

02:18:38.660 Okay.

02:18:39.660 Yo, what the fuck, bro?

02:18:42.660 Colin Coran goes, dude is gonna die with a 3.0 kill per death ratio.

02:18:46.660 What the fuck?

02:18:47.660 What?

02:18:48.660 It's a video game term.

02:18:50.660 Yo, what the fuck, bro?

02:18:52.660 Yo, what the fuck?

02:18:56.660 What the fuck?

02:19:01.660 Yo, what the fuck, man?

02:19:04.660 I'm fucking dead, bro.

02:19:11.660 Yo, I may have been playing too much Call of Duty, bro.

02:19:14.660 What the fuck, man?

02:19:17.660 Yo, y'all got no chill in this chat, man.

02:19:20.660 Y'all got no chill.

02:19:21.660 I'll never forget, I was doing the Jeffrey Dahmer case.

02:19:24.660 And you know how he makes the people watch The Exorcist with him?

02:19:28.660 What?

02:19:29.660 Like, Jeffrey Dahmer, before he kills his victims, he makes them watch The Exorcist.

02:19:33.660 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:19:34.660 Someone in the chat put, yo, he brought the dude over for Netflix and kill.

02:19:38.660 And I was like, what the fuck?

02:19:40.660 Yeah.

02:19:41.660 That's a good joke.

02:19:43.660 Yo, man.

02:19:45.660 This chat is on something else, man.

02:19:48.660 Yo, like the video.

02:19:49.660 We got 2,246 y'all watching right now, man.

02:19:52.660 The best shot ever.

02:19:53.660 Like the video.

02:19:54.660 Let's hit 2,000.

02:19:55.660 Let's hit 2.2k likes, man.

02:19:56.660 No bad.

02:19:57.660 Yesterday when you were talking, and again, this is before we kind of got to this moment

02:20:09.660 today.

02:20:10.660 You mentioned that.

02:20:11.660 We were talking, you said, I don't know where they are.

02:20:15.660 I don't know where they are.

02:20:16.660 And then you said something along the lines of whatever happened to him, this act of pure

02:20:20.660 evil.

02:20:21.660 What does that mean?

02:20:23.660 This is the evil that I saw when I walked behind this man and she was on top of the city.

02:20:35.660 And then I felt evil described in this man.

02:20:40.660 Okay.

02:20:41.660 So after we look at their bodies, we're going to have a lot more questions.

02:20:53.660 Things are going to be different then.

02:20:56.660 But if you're willing, we'd love to talk to you then too.

02:20:59.660 Now that we know what we know, we're going to check that you don't have any weapons on

02:21:06.660 your hands like that.

02:21:08.660 Do you have any weapons on them?

02:21:09.660 Okay.

02:21:10.660 They about arrest them.

02:21:12.660 Cause remember he came in voluntarily guys, which is also very stupid.

02:21:16.660 Never talked to the police voluntarily guys without a lawyer present ever.

02:21:19.660 Okay.

02:21:20.660 You don't say nothing to the police.

02:21:21.660 Go to the bathroom.

02:21:22.660 I'm not going to go in the stall with you, but I'm going to go with you.

02:21:26.660 And then we'll come right back here.

02:21:27.660 We'll make a decision about how the rest of the night goes.

02:21:30.660 Oh, no, they already know that he's going to get arrested.

02:21:32.660 That's why they're not letting him go to the bathroom by himself or anything like that.

02:21:35.660 He's at this point, he's under arrest.

02:21:36.660 They just don't want to say it.

02:21:37.660 All right.

02:21:38.660 So you might send it out.

02:21:39.660 Second check.

02:21:40.660 Okay.

02:21:41.660 Okay.

02:21:42.660 Okay.

02:21:43.660 Okay.

02:21:44.660 Okay.

02:21:45.660 Okay.

02:21:46.660 Okay.

02:21:47.660 Okay.

02:21:48.660 Okay.

02:21:49.660 Okay.

02:21:50.660 This interrogation was a true testimony of how mental fatigue can restructure an individual's

02:21:57.660 cognitive rationale.

02:21:58.660 Chris maintained his innocence even after the failed polygraph.

02:22:02.660 And if he had kept that stance, he would have walked out of that police department as

02:22:05.660 a free man for at least another night.

02:22:07.660 Yet after a prolonged state of isolation, anxiety, and fear, coupled with the cerebral influencing

02:22:13.660 tactics of the interrogators, the alleviation of getting out of that situation was in that

02:22:18.660 moment perceived as enough of a luxury to exchange his freedom for it.

02:22:23.660 So they're having the deputy make the arrest.

02:22:24.660 Why are they doing that?

02:22:25.660 So that they can get on camera footage, have him come in and make it right in case he makes

02:22:38.660 any other incriminating statements so that they can record it.

02:22:40.660 Bam.

02:22:41.660 Uh, and real quick, uh, here's the arrest guys, the warrantless arrest affidavit.

02:22:57.660 Um, for it, uh, James Matthew right here being duly sworn upon oath.

02:23:01.660 Let me go ahead and enlarge this for y'all real quick.

02:23:04.660 And can you pull up some of the groupie stuff, by the way?

02:23:06.660 Um, Angie, that the girls were going crazy for this guy.

02:23:09.660 Um, sworn oath says that there is probable cause for the warrantless arrest of the above

02:23:14.660 named defendant for the charges stated above, and that the following facts were true or

02:23:17.660 correct to the best of his or her knowledge information and belief supports the arrest

02:23:20.660 of this defendant.

02:23:21.660 Um, and you guys can see here tampering with the deceased body three counts and then murder

02:23:26.660 degree three counts.

02:23:27.660 Um, and then August 13, 2018 approximately.

02:23:29.660 Uh, and then it just goes into the, all the facts, right?

02:23:32.660 Um, and this warrantless arrest affidavit, what they probably did guys was after the confession.

02:23:36.660 Let me see here.

02:23:37.660 We'll go to the bottom here on a 14, approximately seven detective bomb hover learned bun hover

02:23:43.660 learned that Shannon nor the girls had returned to the residence.

02:23:45.660 There's a above home.

02:23:46.660 We requested an immediate press release to be issued and initiated assistance from the CBI

02:23:50.660 and ultimately the FBI to the investigation revealed.

02:23:52.660 Chris was actively involved in an affair with a coworker, which he denied previous interviews.

02:23:57.660 They interviewed her.

02:23:58.660 They did too.

02:23:59.660 She, she called the police.

02:24:01.660 She said that she wanted to talk to the police and they interviewed her.

02:24:04.660 She said a bunch of things.

02:24:06.660 She knew about the family.

02:24:07.660 She knew about the wife.

02:24:08.660 She knew about the kids.

02:24:09.660 She knew about everything.

02:24:11.660 Um, um, I wanted to say this though.

02:24:14.660 Yeah.

02:24:15.660 So this is from the interview.

02:24:16.660 You guys can see it right here.

02:24:17.660 Um, yeah, I have a whole document.

02:24:21.660 Uh, um, yeah, like a web website that has like all the documents of the case is 2000 pages

02:24:28.660 of documents on the case.

02:24:32.660 So this is his excuse that we got for an interview.

02:24:34.660 Chris said that he went into a rage and ultimately strangled, uh, Shannon, uh, to death.

02:24:38.660 Chris said he loaded all three bodies onto the back of the, uh, his work truck and took

02:24:42.660 an oil side identified a survey 319 with GPS coordinates, et cetera.

02:24:46.660 Chris said he buried Shannon near the two oil tanks and dumped the girls inside the oil

02:24:49.660 tanks.

02:24:50.660 Chris was presented an aerial photograph of the tank battery area and identified three

02:24:52.660 separate locations in which he placed the bodies, which we showed you guys earlier.

02:24:55.660 Um, prior to Chris confession, investigators arrived at survey 319 with consent to initiate

02:25:00.660 a drone search of the area.

02:25:01.660 Approximately 4 15 PM investigators spotted a bed sheet in the field near the tank battery.

02:25:06.660 The sheet matched the pattern of the several pillowcases and a top sheet cut recover from

02:25:10.660 a kitchen trash can from Watts residents early that day.

02:25:12.660 That search, uh, that search was conducted with prior consent provided by Chris.

02:25:17.660 The drone search also revealed fresh movement of dirt consistent with the clandestine grave near

02:25:23.660 the oil tanks.

02:25:24.660 And then bam, he went ahead and got this signed on, uh, on the 16th of August.

02:25:30.660 So a couple of days later, they went ahead and got this arrest.

02:25:32.660 So they arrested him and then they got, uh, filed this after David.

02:25:35.660 Okay.

02:25:36.660 So, uh, there it is.

02:25:39.660 Um, did you have, uh, anything you want to share real quick?

02:25:41.660 Oh, and then here's the house real quick while Angie pulls up his groupies.

02:25:44.660 Um, this is the house where the murder actually occurred guys.

02:25:46.660 Uh, house of horror for sale, uh, Colorado home where Chris Watts murdered his wife and kids

02:25:51.660 is secretly listed for $660,000, but buyers must prove they have the funds before, uh, touring

02:25:58.660 to avoid it turning into a true crime fan destination.

02:26:01.660 Cause you guys know, right.

02:26:03.660 A lot of this happens a lot of times in real estate where people just want to go ahead

02:26:06.660 and just get a tour and take pictures and stuff.

02:26:07.660 So they actually bought the house for three $300,000.

02:26:12.660 Oh, it got sold for only 300 K.

02:26:14.660 No, no, no, no, no.

02:26:15.660 They bought it.

02:26:16.660 Like they bought it for 300.

02:26:17.660 Yeah.

02:26:18.660 Okay.

02:26:19.660 Uh, it was listed for $660,000.

02:26:21.660 $660,000.

02:26:22.660 And now it's valued for 800,000.

02:26:24.660 Well, it goes here.

02:26:25.660 The Frederick, Colorado home where Chris Watts strangled his wife pregnant Shannon to death

02:26:28.660 is now for sale.

02:26:29.660 The five bed, four bath property was secretly listed last week for $660,000 under a fictitious

02:26:33.660 address.

02:26:34.660 Watts and Shannon purchased the home for in 2013 for 400 K and now died to be 800.

02:26:38.660 Yeah.

02:26:39.660 It got sold last year.

02:26:40.660 The agent offering limited showings of the home to buyers with funding commitment letters

02:26:45.660 for six 60 interested parties are required to submit their offers and bank commitment letters

02:26:49.660 by May 24th.

02:26:50.660 The home was listed for auction in 2019 after Watts defaulted on the mortgage and the bank

02:26:54.660 foreclosed on it.

02:26:55.660 Uh, no one bid on the property and it has remained vacant since the Watts family lived

02:26:58.660 there.

02:26:59.660 Watts is serving multiple life sentences for killing Shannon and their daughters, Bella

02:27:02.660 four and Celeste three.

02:27:03.660 And this is back to the murders here.

02:27:06.660 Here's a picture of him with his family.

02:27:07.660 Look at this man.

02:27:08.660 Look at that.

02:27:09.660 That was a beautiful family, man.

02:27:10.660 He ruined it to be an idiot.

02:27:11.660 Like, come on, man.

02:27:12.660 You stupid.

02:27:13.660 What?

02:27:14.660 To have some side piece?

02:27:16.660 Foolish.

02:27:17.660 Um, so he ended up pleading guilty on November 6th.

02:27:23.660 Uh, the death penalty was not put forward by a district attorney on the request of Shannon's

02:27:26.660 family who do not wish any further deaths.

02:27:28.660 They were supportive of his decision to accept the plea deal on November 19th.

02:27:31.660 He was sentenced to two life sentences.

02:27:33.660 Uh, excuse me.

02:27:35.660 He was sentenced to five silent life sentences, three consecutive and two concurrent without

02:27:38.660 the possibility of parole.

02:27:39.660 He received an additional 48 years for the unlawful termination of Shannon's pregnancy

02:27:43.660 and 36 years for three charges of tampering with a deceased body.

02:27:47.660 His sentence began immediately on December 3rd, 2018.

02:27:50.660 Watts was moved to an out of state location due to security concerns on December 5th.

02:27:55.660 He arrived at Dodge Correctional Institution, maximum security, uh, prison and, uh, Wapun,

02:28:00.660 Wisconsin to continue serving his life sentence.

02:28:03.660 Uh, so yeah.

02:28:06.660 And then here on November 30th, 2020, Netflix released American murder.

02:28:09.660 The family next door, a documentary about the murders.

02:28:11.660 Documentary features archival footage, including home video, social media posts, text messages,

02:28:15.660 and law enforcement recordings.

02:28:16.660 2022, the true crime and SKY and D published a single called Chris Watts based on the Watts

02:28:22.660 case.

02:28:23.660 That's a cool band.

02:28:24.660 So they make like songs about serial killers.

02:28:27.660 Oh, do they?

02:28:28.660 Yeah.

02:28:29.660 Weirdos.

02:28:30.660 Uh, so yeah, that's that.

02:28:32.660 That is the Chris Watts case guys.

02:28:34.660 Um, summary.

02:28:35.660 Hope you guys enjoyed that one.

02:28:37.660 Did you find his groupie girls?

02:28:38.660 Yeah.

02:28:39.660 And you want to share it on screen?

02:28:40.660 Yeah.

02:28:41.660 Okay.

02:28:42.660 Here it is.

02:28:43.660 Uh, go ahead and.

02:28:44.660 So Chris Watts may be serving three life sentences.

02:28:46.660 Hit control plus a few times.

02:28:47.660 Where?

02:28:48.660 Hit control plus so they can be, uh, enlarged so the people can.

02:28:51.660 Yeah.

02:28:52.660 So it'll make it bigger.

02:28:54.660 There you go.

02:28:55.660 More.

02:28:56.660 Yeah, there you go.

02:28:57.660 Chris Watts may be serving three life sentences for the murders of his pregnant wife and two

02:29:00.660 daughters.

02:29:01.660 Um, but this has stopped some fans from sending him love letters in jail.

02:29:06.660 So according to ABC seven prosecutors have released dozens of letters that have been

02:29:10.660 sent to Watts with one woman in writing in my heart.

02:29:14.660 I know you are a great guy.

02:29:16.660 What the hell?

02:29:17.660 If you do write me back, I'll be the happiest girl live.

02:29:20.660 That's for sure.

02:29:21.660 Ten.

02:29:22.660 Chris.

02:29:23.660 Chris.

02:29:24.660 Chris is innocent.

02:29:25.660 Love him.

02:29:26.660 So cute.

02:29:27.660 How's he innocent when he admit, bro?

02:29:28.660 These girls, bro.

02:29:29.660 Holy.

02:29:30.660 Another sent her note saying I have found myself thinking a lot about you.

02:29:34.660 What do I tell y'all bro?

02:29:35.660 Yo, girls.

02:29:36.660 Yo, anything for clout, man.

02:29:37.660 I'm telling you, man.

02:29:38.660 Cause he has social status.

02:29:39.660 Unfortunately, even though he did a reprehensible thing, he became famous because of this case.

02:29:43.660 Yeah.

02:29:44.660 Nationwide.

02:29:45.660 Just like that.

02:29:46.660 Ted Bundy.

02:29:47.660 Exactly.

02:29:48.660 Yeah.

02:29:49.660 Ted Bundy, the night stalker, uh, Jeffrey Dahmer.

02:29:51.660 They all had a bunch of girls showing up at their, uh, trials.

02:29:54.660 Yeah.

02:29:55.660 I don't know.

02:29:56.660 I don't know how they see this guy, but yeah.

02:29:57.660 Anything else here besides his groupies or?

02:29:59.660 Um, yeah.

02:30:00.660 The house got sold last year.

02:30:02.660 That's what I was saying.

02:30:03.660 Um, for this family right here, family of five.

02:30:07.660 Uh, and then I was saying, I found the documents on the case.

02:30:10.660 You fight, you guys can find the, the whole optopsis for the three victims there.

02:30:15.660 Okay.

02:30:16.660 Hit control plus real quick.

02:30:17.660 So the people can see it.

02:30:18.660 Yeah.

02:30:19.660 This is the, you can find the texts with the wife.

02:30:22.660 You can, you can find the nudes.

02:30:25.660 Nudes.

02:30:26.660 Yeah.

02:30:27.660 That's all there.

02:30:28.660 Oh, and then wait, nudes as a naked or news.

02:30:31.660 Nudes as in naked.

02:30:33.660 Oh, wow.

02:30:34.660 Okay.

02:30:35.660 They'll be sharing nudes and stuff.

02:30:36.660 They actually did.

02:30:37.660 I highlighted this because after the murders, they talk on the phone for like a phone call.

02:30:44.660 Oh, him and a Sancha.

02:30:45.660 They talked on the phone afterwards.

02:30:47.660 They called it was the mistress.

02:30:48.660 Yeah.

02:30:49.660 After the murders.

02:30:50.660 When, you know, when he got the interview that he was a snickering.

02:30:52.660 Yeah.

02:30:53.660 Yeah.

02:30:54.660 So that night, uh, they called, he called, he called the, the mistress and he told her

02:31:00.660 what was going on and blah, blah.

02:31:01.660 Oh, wow.

02:31:02.660 And she started like looking up and she started deleting all texts.

02:31:05.660 Like this is all texts between them.

02:31:07.660 Between him and the girl.

02:31:08.660 So what I'll do is I'll put this for y'all down below.

02:31:10.660 If you guys want to see him texting his girl, uh, you know, after the murder.

02:31:15.660 The texts here, they, she'd be having like sketchy texts.

02:31:19.660 Like, I don't know, like, and cops trace text messages.

02:31:23.660 Ah, he was asking her all these questions.

02:31:25.660 Yeah.

02:31:26.660 And she'd be asking about a Scott Peterson's.

02:31:29.660 Do you know, a Scott Peterson's that that's a serial killer too.

02:31:33.660 Very famous.

02:31:34.660 He killed his wife too.

02:31:36.660 And she was looking up like what happened to a Scott Peterson's why a mistress, because

02:31:42.660 he also had a mistress.

02:31:44.660 Wow.

02:31:45.660 Holy.

02:31:46.660 All right.

02:31:47.660 Well, uh, that's an L from him.

02:31:51.660 But other than that guys, um, hope you guys enjoyed that.

02:31:54.660 Uh, pod, uh, go ahead and like the video.

02:31:57.660 I think we just hit 2000.

02:31:58.660 Uh, guys, if we get to 2100, I'd really love it.

02:32:01.660 Um, we got 2177 watching right now, but I'm going to put timestamps below.

02:32:04.660 I'll put the link below as well with all the, um, all the text messages.

02:32:09.660 And, uh, and you got anything for the people?

02:32:11.660 No, I'm just wanting to say that this is the exact example for family.

02:32:16.660 Annihilate.

02:32:17.660 What's the word?

02:32:18.660 Annihilate.

02:32:19.660 Annihilators.

02:32:20.660 Annihilators.

02:32:21.660 Oh, matter of fact, you know, let's take a poll with the people since where you guys

02:32:23.660 stood this long.

02:32:24.660 So you guys go ahead and get the ability to choose this.

02:32:28.660 Listen to this.

02:32:30.660 Listen to this.

02:32:31.660 So according to, uh, FBI agent, former FBI agent, people.

02:32:35.660 You mean FBI?

02:32:36.660 FBI.

02:32:37.660 Sorry.

02:32:38.660 Yes.

02:32:39.660 People responsible for killing their families are always white males in their theories.

02:32:43.660 You know what?

02:32:44.660 Everybody I think about it is, I mean, Murdoch was older, but definitely a white male.

02:32:49.660 Yes.

02:32:50.660 And, and most of these, of these killings, like family killings happen before August, before

02:32:55.660 school starts.

02:32:56.660 Ah, interesting.

02:32:58.660 Okay.

02:32:59.660 Interesting.

02:33:00.660 Uh, so guys, you guys want us to cover Murdoch or BMF?

02:33:06.660 All right.

02:33:07.660 One in the chat.

02:33:08.660 If you guys want us to cover Murdoch, two in the chat, if you guys want us to cover BMF.

02:33:12.660 Okay.

02:33:13.660 Okay.

02:33:14.660 One for Murdoch, two for black mafia family.

02:33:18.660 FBI.

02:33:19.660 One for Murdoch, two for black mafia family, AKA Big Meech.

02:33:25.660 Man.

02:33:26.660 Let's see here.

02:33:28.660 Murdoch or Big Meech?

02:33:32.660 I'm seeing a lot of twos.

02:33:35.660 I'm seeing a lot of ones.

02:33:39.660 You know what?

02:33:40.660 I'll do a poll.

02:33:41.660 It might be easier if I do a poll.

02:33:42.660 Yeah.

02:33:43.660 This is.

02:33:44.660 Cause it's hard to.

02:33:45.660 This is tight.

02:33:46.660 All right.

02:33:47.660 I'm going to start a poll right now.

02:33:48.660 Okay.

02:33:49.660 Next.

02:33:50.660 Two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two.

02:33:53.660 BMF or Murdoch.

02:33:56.660 Okay.

02:33:57.660 I'm going to put this poll up right now for y'all in the chat.

02:34:05.660 I might spell Murdoch wrong, but you guys get the point.

02:34:12.660 All right.

02:34:14.660 I'm going to let it rip right now.

02:34:16.660 Ask the community.

02:34:17.660 Let's see what y'all say.

02:34:20.660 It is up guys.

02:34:22.660 Go ahead.

02:34:23.660 And also while we do this, like the video guys, please.

02:34:28.660 Let's get this thing up to almost a hundred percent engagement.

02:34:31.660 There's 2000 plus you guys in here.

02:34:33.660 This can cause some of y'all haven't hit the light thing.

02:34:35.660 If we can hit 2,100, that'd be fantastic.

02:34:38.660 Let's see here with what everybody's saying.

02:34:40.660 Let's see.

02:34:41.660 Let's see.

02:34:42.660 Let's see what the audience is saying.

02:34:43.660 Oh, it's close.

02:34:44.660 56% for BMF.

02:34:46.660 45%.

02:34:47.660 Oh, now it's 45, 45.

02:34:50.660 Let's see what they say.

02:34:52.660 Guys, get engaged.

02:34:53.660 Go ahead.

02:34:54.660 Vote on this thing.

02:34:55.660 I want to see what y'all want.

02:34:56.660 Ooh.

02:34:57.660 BMF.

02:34:58.660 It looks like BMF is winning.

02:35:00.660 Mm-hmm.

02:35:01.660 Yeah.

02:35:02.660 I know that stars documentary.

02:35:03.660 Everyone is going crazy for it.

02:35:04.660 Uh, let's see.

02:35:14.660 Let's see here.

02:35:15.660 All right.

02:35:16.660 Looks like BMF is going.

02:35:17.660 I'll give it another, um, I'll give it another one or two minutes.

02:35:26.660 Cause I do want to see what y'all actually want.

02:35:29.660 Have the people decide.

02:35:34.660 Let's see here.

02:35:38.660 I will do both.

02:35:39.660 Don't worry, guys.

02:35:40.660 I just want to see what I, what I need to do first.

02:35:45.660 Okay.

02:35:46.660 It looks like BMF is winning.

02:35:47.660 It's going to be probably end up being, uh, 60, 40, 60, 40 is what it's

02:35:55.660 looking like.

02:35:56.660 Mm-hmm.

02:35:57.660 Right.

02:36:01.660 All right.

02:36:02.660 I'll read the chats real quick while we wait for that to finish.

02:36:03.660 All right.

02:36:04.660 We got, uh, Sephiroth goes, did Chelsea get booted from the boys club?

02:36:06.660 Uh, no, man.

02:36:07.660 I just don't know where he's at.

02:36:08.660 He's at, he should have called Lester, the two 40 lifestyle.

02:36:10.660 Cool.

02:36:11.660 Black Moses.

02:36:12.660 Could y'all check out the monster Florence case from Italy?

02:36:14.660 Does that one ever come, come across your side?

02:36:16.660 No.

02:36:17.660 I wanted to ask you though.

02:36:18.660 I wanted to ask you though.

02:36:19.660 Like we do cases from outside America.

02:36:21.660 Yeah.

02:36:22.660 We can, if it's, if it's good enough.

02:36:23.660 Right.

02:36:24.660 Um, dude went from working the oil field to Tyrone getting the petroleum

02:36:27.660 jelly.

02:36:28.660 You guys are hilarious.

02:36:29.660 Uh, Sephiroth.

02:36:30.660 He's probably in, uh, to be honest, guys, he's probably in isolation.

02:36:33.660 Uh, since this is such a high profile case.

02:36:36.660 Yeah.

02:36:37.660 He's probably by himself.

02:36:38.660 When you, when you get it like a high profile case like that, the defendant almost never

02:36:41.660 gets a roommate.

02:36:42.660 Uh, family of five bought the house in November, 2022.

02:36:46.660 Okay.

02:36:47.660 Dude did the Tory story.

02:36:48.660 I don't want to play with you anymore to his wife and kids.

02:36:50.660 Oh God.

02:36:51.660 Traveler sensei us.

02:36:52.660 What the US case isn't a crime of passion, a thing.

02:36:55.660 Uh, when a father choked his friend to death, when he caught the man graping a seven year

02:36:59.660 old daughter.

02:37:00.660 Yeah.

02:37:01.660 That could be a possibility, but we know that he killed his, his, uh, children.

02:37:02.660 It wasn't her.

02:37:03.660 Uh, Adam Russell, 39 super sticker.

02:37:05.660 Appreciate that.

02:37:06.660 10 bucks.

02:37:07.660 Instinctual messages goes props on a show.

02:37:09.660 Myron by chance.

02:37:10.660 Have you done an MLK or JFK assassination breakdown?

02:37:12.660 No, but I will be covering it.

02:37:14.660 God damn bug got in here.

02:37:16.660 Uh, I will be covering it with, uh, the JFK situation with Ryan Dawson.

02:37:20.660 All right.

02:37:21.660 You guys might catch me in Japan.

02:37:22.660 Who knows?

02:37:23.660 Have you seen the Showtime TV series?

02:37:24.660 Dexter?

02:37:25.660 This case reminds me of that show.

02:37:26.660 Chris would definitely be on Dexter list.

02:37:27.660 Has there been any killers in history that have been that vigilante type?

02:37:31.660 Uh, not that I could think off the top of my head.

02:37:33.660 David Cator, fire show.

02:37:34.660 Myron and Angela, please cover Israel case.

02:37:36.660 Dude was a different type of serial killer.

02:37:38.660 Didn't fit the standard psych profile at all.

02:37:40.660 Never heard of him.

02:37:41.660 So what it looks like white and black pinstripe candies.

02:37:43.660 Okay.

02:37:44.660 Uh, Jay goes for the back.

02:37:47.660 Good eats.

02:37:48.660 Can you do the murder ink fed case?

02:37:49.660 Okay.

02:37:50.660 We got that one.

02:37:51.660 And then let me make sure I didn't miss anyone else's chat.

02:37:53.660 Uh, okay.

02:37:54.660 It looks like Feta and BMF are still fighting here.

02:37:56.660 Um, it looks like BMF is the winner, man, is what it looks like.

02:38:01.660 I'll give it another few seconds here, unless, you know, uh, Murdoch can get, pull off a

02:38:06.660 big one, but it looks like it's going to be BMF is going to be the next case that we

02:38:10.660 cover for you guys.

02:38:12.660 I'll probably drop that on Thursday for y'all.

02:38:14.660 Um, um, you guys, you, some of you were asking if, if, if it was possible that the

02:38:19.660 wife who killed the kids, it was not because she actually fought for her life.

02:38:24.660 It was found in the op to see.

02:38:26.660 So you can guys check it out in the documents.

02:38:28.660 Okay.

02:38:29.660 I might drop you that link though.

02:38:30.660 So they can check the documents.

02:38:31.660 Yeah.

02:38:32.660 You can see everything there.

02:38:33.660 If you want to see like the pictures.

02:38:34.660 Who died first?

02:38:35.660 What was the order of death?

02:38:36.660 The, the, the, the, the mom probably died first.

02:38:38.660 Yes, of course.

02:38:39.660 And then, and then she killed, um, I think it was the older child.

02:38:43.660 Okay.

02:38:44.660 And then she killed the little one who actually asked like, what was she do?

02:38:47.660 What was daddy doing with?

02:38:49.660 She asked like, what are you doing that?

02:38:51.660 He like, what are you doing to my sister?

02:38:52.660 Ah, okay.

02:38:53.660 So she caught him getting the, the second one.

02:38:55.660 She saw everything.

02:38:56.660 She saw the murder of her, of his, of her sister.

02:38:58.660 Okay.

02:38:59.660 Wow.

02:39:00.660 Okay.

02:39:01.660 Okay.

02:39:02.660 And that probably made him say even more so that he's got to get rid of all witnesses.

02:39:04.660 So, um, but it was the mom that he got first.

02:39:07.660 Okay.

02:39:08.660 That makes sense.

02:39:09.660 All right.

02:39:10.660 Uh, guys, it looks like we're going to be covering BMF next then.

02:39:12.660 Okay.

02:39:13.660 I think a big beach, Larry Hoover.

02:39:15.660 All right.

02:39:16.660 Um, okay, cool.

02:39:17.660 Other net guys.

02:39:18.660 I hope you guys enjoyed that broadcast, man.

02:39:19.660 Um, we've been going now for two and two, two hours and 40 minutes.

02:39:22.660 Guys like the video, subscribe to the channel.

02:39:25.660 If you haven't already shared this video with a friend time since they're going to be in very soon.

02:39:28.660 Love y'all.

02:39:29.660 Free Andrew tape, free Tristan.

02:39:30.660 We know that they're innocent.

02:39:31.660 I'll catch you guys tomorrow for money Monday, um, with the squad and after hours.

02:39:36.660 And then we're going to have another show for you guys on Tuesday as well as an after hours as well.

02:39:39.660 Then I'm going to go to Dubai on Wednesday.

02:39:41.660 So, um, Angie, what's it?

02:39:42.660 I'll give you the last word.

02:39:43.660 Go ahead.

02:39:44.660 Uh, right.

02:39:45.660 Yeah.

02:39:46.660 You can check me out on Instagram.

02:39:47.660 It's at so Angelica with two A's at the end, but please don't send dick pics.

02:39:51.660 Don't say, don't ask me for fit pics or don't ask me for only fans.

02:39:54.660 Like I don't have any of that.

02:39:56.660 I won't send it big.

02:39:57.660 So yeah, you guys are the best.

02:39:59.660 Thank you for your support.

02:40:00.660 Subscribe and like, there you go.

02:40:02.660 And, uh, guys, send them dick pics.

02:40:03.660 No.

02:40:04.660 I was a special agent with Homeland Investigations.

02:40:08.660 Okay, guys.

02:40:09.660 HSI.

02:40:10.660 The cases that I did mostly were human smuggling and drug trafficking.

02:40:15.660 No one else has these documents, by the way.

02:40:17.660 Here's what FedEx covers.

02:40:19.660 Dr. Lafredo confirmed lacerations due to stepping on glass.

02:40:25.660 Murder investigations.

02:40:26.660 You see him reaching in his jacket.

02:40:27.660 You don't know.

02:40:28.660 And he's positioning.

02:40:29.660 Been on February 13, 2019.

02:40:31.660 You're facing two counts of two meditative murders.

02:40:34.660 Bracketeering and Rico conspiracies.

02:40:36.660 Young slime life here and after referred to as YSL.

02:40:38.660 This is 6ix9ine.

02:40:40.660 And then this is Billy Seiko right here.

02:40:42.660 Now, when they first started, guys.

02:40:44.660 6ix9ine ran with...

02:40:45.660 I'm a Fed.

02:40:46.660 I'm watching this music video.

02:40:47.660 You know.

02:40:48.660 I'm bobbing my head like, hey, this shit lit.

02:40:49.660 But at the same time, I'm pausing.

02:40:51.660 Oh, wait, who this?

02:40:52.660 Right?

02:40:53.660 Who's that in the back?

The Debrief With MyronGainesX - March 09, 2023

Fed Explains Chris Watts Family Murder! @JCS Reaction!

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