Fed Explains Edward Snowden
Episode Stats
Length
2 hours and 42 minutes
Words per Minute
199.39566
Hate Speech Sentences
140
Summary
In this episode of Fed Reactions, we cover Edward Snowden's espionage case. This case is one that you guys have been asking us to cover for a while now and we are here to cover it!
Transcript
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This guy got arrested espionage, okay, trading secrets with the Russian John Wayne Gacy,
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a.k.a. the killer clown, okay, one of the most prolific serial killers of all time,
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Zodiac killer is a pseudonym of an unidentified serial killer who operate in Northern California.
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All these serial killers, guys, they really get off on getting attention from the media.
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Many years, Jeffrey Epstein sexually exploited and abused dozens of minor girls at his home.
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It was OJ working together to get Nicole killed.
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We're going to go over his past, the Yankees, so that this all makes sense.
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Today, we're going to be covering Edward Snowden, man.
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This one is one that you guys have been requesting for quite a while.
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It's been a while since we've done an espionage case, actually.
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But before I do, I think some people got some quick announcements.
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You guys know me as your favorite musician, J. Bills.
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You guys can follow me on Instagram at J-B-I-L-Z.
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And yes, I will be dropping more beats on YouTube.
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And yeah, go ahead and give Fed Reacts a like on the video.
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Get it on Apple Music, Tidal, Spotify, everywhere.
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And then also, guys, you can see here, we're experimenting with something right now
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And then you can also see the YouTube live viewers.
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So we're trying to get the right now, it says like 542 on YouTube.
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So you already know it's Mo or L-Mo or with the E-L-M-O or Media Mo.
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Other than that, you guys can follow me at Big Mo underscore B-I-T-W.
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Don't forget the memo to believe in Big Mo because that is the M-O.
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And then, Angie, you have something, right, that you want to tell people?
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On Thursday, I think it was 8 p.m. or something, 8 p.m. to 9 p.m. or something like that.
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So I brought down, like, the most requested ones.
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And then I made a poll yesterday for this one and Silk Road because those cases were the ones, like, the most requested ones from you guys.
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So the ones that are top of the list right now, scratching Edwin Snowden, the next one will be Silk Road.
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Then we have Barbie and Ken murders, Paul Bernardo.
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And we're probably going to have to do it because you guys have been requesting that one, like, a lot.
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We have Shambell shooting, the Shambell shooting.
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Which of people drinking Tylenol and killing people.
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Matthew Cox, Bonnie and Clyde, and National City, California.
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As you guys know, I'd be tweeting about a bunch of stuff on there, man.
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So I appreciate you guys, you know, rock with me over there.
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I cover a bunch of different things that I might not necessarily cover over here.
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Top right, you could already see one of my cartoons.
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And then y'all be here like, yo, man, let him rock.
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And then, guys, FNFSuperChat.com, if you guys want to get involved in the show, you got
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any questions or comments or anything else like that.
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I know somebody said that we didn't read chats or something like that last show.
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Guys, you got to understand that it was a show where we had special guests on.
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So, you know, obviously, we're not going to be able to read all the chats.
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I think, hell, you guys even made the announcement before we even went live.
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And you said that it was going to be 50 and up, right?
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So, you know, you guys got to understand that, you know, running a live show where it's an
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interactive show, but at the same time, you got to make sure that the entertainment
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factor is involved and you got special guests that you're dealing with.
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It's a delicate balance of being entertaining, right, while simultaneously getting the crowd
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involved while also making sure getting the crowd involved doesn't derail the show.
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So, it's a very delicate balance, guys, that, you know, we're constantly trying to improve
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So, you know, like I said, every chat always gets shown on screen.
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It's just that we're not able to read every one, especially on shows like that.
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A lot of you guys are like, yo, Byron, this was an L show.
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Even though that girl is annoying as hell and quite frankly, didn't deserve the platform,
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A little bit more of a higher IQ show because when we bring regular girls on, it's ridiculous.
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And, you know, when you have higher IQ guests on, you got to go ahead and elevate and bring
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Now, despite what you guys might want to say about her, even though she argues in bad faith
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and she's just a contrarian, she's not an idiot.
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She does have a good skill set to be able to debate certain topics, even if it's in bad
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Obviously, her, Pixie, and a couple other ladies on the panel, you know, have some views that
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But so we're like, you know what, man, people have been coming at the red pill.
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People have been saying, oh, you know, it's all a bunch of pseudoscience, all a bunch of
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Let's go ahead and put some of the, you know, staunchest supporters of feminism and being
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And I would say it was a pretty much a masterclass in showing how to deal with people that argue
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in bad faith and defeat their point of viewpoints, you know, with, you know, with arguments
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and, you know, being able to look, hey, maybe this study over here is just one side
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or this study only covers one thing, but we're able to go ahead and look at the totality
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of the circumstances, apply a little bit of common sense, apply some numbers, apply some
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anecdotal evidence and be able to put things together in a full picture.
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And I think we did a good job of establishing how, you know, just quite frankly, a lot of
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To include the 304 lawyer who a lot of times, you know, she argues about faith, but it is
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But I think it was very important for that to be exposed.
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And I know some of you guys are like, oh my God, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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You know, it was either that or we bring on some bimbos and then just have a regular
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This is a great opportunity to have a higher IQ debate.
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These are some people that challenged the red pill.
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It proves what I told you guys a million times.
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Regardless of a woman's education level, regardless of her intellect, regardless of
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It doesn't change the fact that they're still going to argue for stupid shit.
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Like, just because she's more educated, all it does is allows them to be even more ten
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Literally, you have a chick here saying like, oh yeah, like men don't care about XYZ when
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But she says, but me and my lawyer friends, like, it doesn't change anything.
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She's just able to articulate her delusional points better, guys.
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And for all you guys that say, bring educated women on, bring smart women on.
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I bring them on, people start fucking bitching, right?
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And then if I don't bring them on, bro, you just bring all stupid girls.
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And I'm trying to explain to you guys, after talking to almost 3,000 fucking girls, that
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I'm telling y'all, the software is almost always the same.
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The hardware is different, but the software is the same.
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And then depending on the education of the girl, the software might run a little bit
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smoother, but it still gets you to the same fucking beginning point, which is what?
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Female delusion exists regardless of education level.
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And that's what I'm trying to fucking prove to you guys on this podcast.
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Even the copycats, they're having the same goddamn conversations.
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Also, we're going to be taking five and up chats from here on out.
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But like I said, we're going to be reading all the chats from here on out.
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And then when I kicked her last time, too, the other thing, too, when I kicked her last
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time, right, because the chat wanted her gone, a bunch of people complaining, bro, why'd
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We'll do this debate and then be done with this shit.
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The ones who had sent those one dollars, we got you.
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I'd be looking sexy as hell with this clean face, though.
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Talk about my voice, which it's never going away, by the way.
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I kind of want to interact with people that ask like genuine questions about the cases,
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If we have time at the end, we'll open up the phone lines.
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Yeah, if we got time, we'll open up the phone lines.
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I hope you be seeing when I'm saying this stuff, bro.
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Yo, when I see you, I'm going to shake your hand on God, bro.
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Yes, I just want to do it because when I'm doing the live, people ask, like, really good
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questions, and, yeah, sometimes I cannot answer them, so it'll be good for us to do, like,
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If we got time, we'll open up the phone lines at the end.
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Yeah, maybe we'll open up the phone lines for y'all.
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But, again, we'll have to do what we always do with phone lines because, you know, once you
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open up the phone lines, the weirdos come out, right?
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So you have to put in, you know, hey, you know, we're going to prioritize paid callers
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first, and after that, you know, we'll go do some free callers as well.
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But I've noticed that if you don't do that, then the callers just, they just troll and do
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Fresh Salt Black, he's forced to get bright colored cars so people don't think it's driving
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Myron, hope the porn star lawyer finally gave you some pussy.
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I know you assessing over the mid-fat three or four.
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Actually, matter of fact, after the show, I didn't say a fucking word to her, bro.
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Like, I don't know what y'all are talking about, man.
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And like I said before, it was Sartain and Rolo that were like, yo, let's do a debate show.
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So I was like, I suggest, I was like, hey, y'all want to do a debate show?
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If I got Rolo and Sartain in town, right, and we already did a show with dumb bimbos before,
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I have a cross tattoo behind my ear on my neck.
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Do you think that will affect me from becoming a DEA and is a bachelor's required?
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DEA isn't as bad with tattoo policies as, like, other agencies, um, especially state
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police, but, um, but yeah, dude, um, unless you got, like, maybe, like, a street look
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or something like that, and you could potentially do some undercover, but you want to get the
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Um, Ali goes, uh, Palestinian American attorney asking you to read my DM email again.
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And then tell me what your email is so I can look for it.
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And then type in, type in Palestine at Capital, and then, and then type in your, and then type
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And, and, and it looks like he says my email as well.
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What are you, what are you, what are you, yeah, he's been, yeah, we'll find, we'll find
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Um, unknowing, uh, unknown guy goes, I ain't gay, but since I followed Myron on IG, I want
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Ali, uh, goes, not giving up on the, uh, on the dream.
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Shout out Chris, shout out Moe, and that's from Ali.
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Uh, please bring on Matthew Cox from Money Mondays.
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And then Grease Junkies goes, you don't mind, the comedian Godfrey had a Palestine-Israel
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debate, um, should check it out, and would be interesting to see you moderate on both points
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Okay, so Matthew Cox is an American former mortgage broker, and admitted mortgage fraud,
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True crime, uh, um, true crime, uh, uh, I can't say it.
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Well, I'm not trying to put y'all in jail, so I don't know if we should put him on a Money
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And then, uh, Godfrey, uh, yo, isn't he like a super-assist?
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Bro, he wouldn't, he wouldn't even rock with us, bro.
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Bro, it's not even, it's not even, uh, yo, your favorite rappers watch us, bro.
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I, I, I got this confirmed through Fresh, like, uh, a couple days ago.
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Like, bro, your favorite rappers, a fucking, um, shout out to the game.
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He posted a, um, he posted a clip, um, from Vegas when I grow the growth.
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I was like, yo, name one thing that, um, men benefit from marriage.
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But, yeah, bro, like, rappers be, definitely be watching us, man, because, I was shocked
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Well, well, here's the thing, because we keep it fucking raw.
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Like, everyone else is like a pussy on YouTube, bro.
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And shout out to, you know, you know what, actually, shout out to the BBC, you fucking
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You, they, they, they, uh, they put out a hit piece on me this morning.
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They said that they're gonna, uh, moderate certain content and that, um, they, they literally
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And they said that their, um, like, content like ours is gonna be restricted.
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Give me a double L, because it's like, what the hell is going on, man?
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London is a, the, the United Kingdom is a failed society, bro.
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And when I was over there in London, London's a failed society too, man.
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Um, like, they, they, because they took the clip where I said, um, I'll go ahead and call
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myself, uh, like, I don't care about being called names like a misogynist or whatever
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If I could keep guys from killing themselves off of women that are, you know, uh, off
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Obviously I used a little bit more, uh, language, but the point I'm trying to make is, is that
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I'm seriously like, you know, out here trying to save guys from killing themselves because
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You know how many guys hurt themselves over women?
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I don't want nobody doing anything to themselves over chicks.
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And they're over here trying to suppress me over there in the UK.
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Like what the fuck is going on in this fucking clown world where you can't even put out
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And the thing that people don't understand is that when you talk to men, you need to be
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And you need to almost yell at them for them to understand what the fuck is going on.
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Men and women don't communicate the same, right?
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We understand that if something is wrong, it needs to be vocalized.
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It needs to be vocalized in a certain way where it's fucking serious.
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With women, they're more concerned with how it's said and all sorts of bullshit.
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That's why they can't get the shit done anyway.
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The point is, is that with guys, for us to get shit done and we know that we have a problem,
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The way things are said to men doesn't matter if the message is true.
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And most importantly, the messenger is someone that they can look up to.
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It's got to come from someone that they actually respect.
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So the fact that they want to go ahead and sit here and suppress me over in the UK,
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because I'm keeping guys from putting fucking, well, they don't have guns in the UK,
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but slicing themselves for doing anything else like that is outrageous to me.
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Like, they'd rather go ahead and let, you know, people that, you know, might identify
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as a he, she, blah, blah, blah, read books to fucking children versus have me tell guys,
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This is what you need to do to become a better man.
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This is what you need to do to not put yourself in a bad situation where you can lose your life
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But of course, they're like, oh, no, bro, we don't want you doing that.
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Hey, could you guys possibly do a video on Ruby Ridge situation?
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Animal goes, LMFAO, my fair part, Fed Reacts, is Angie messing up words.
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Bro, she kept trying to discredit you by bringing up the religion aspect.
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She don't realize that men have to adapt as the women change.
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I mean, it's funny because she comes from a Muslim family and they definitely, bro, she
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is literally like haram on a whole other level, man.
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Like guys, on her Twitter, she's literally like full on bang videos, dude.
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The shit they try to pull with Russell Brand and Rumble, like I'm not surprised, man.
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Any input or thoughts on Sudanese civil war and the RSF selling Sudanese gold to Saudi
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Arabia anyway, to sovereignty and security for Sudan?
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Man, Sudan's had issues, bro, for literally decades, man.
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Um, Pogi Bogey goes, yo, Martin, any chance of bringing Terrence Pop back on the FNF podcast?
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He's one of the realest motherfuckers out there.
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Uh, you know, he was here, um, a few months back, man, but he, uh, he was out in like
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Um, some German guy goes, hey, Martin, I'm almost done with my military service.
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Oh, oh, oh, although big up Argentina and Chetwood.
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And then I'll read these Rumble Rats, then we're going to get into it.
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Just created multiple accounts, and we clip it as much of the show's posting as I can.
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Also, you should do an episode on the wrestler New Jack.
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Yeah, because we got some fucking losers, actually, that we're hating, saying,
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Oh, yo, you guys can't forget Candice Owens on your show.
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She went on a big-ass podcast, Nelk, and said that she would go on.
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Guys, she's pregnant right now, and she can't really do many appearances,
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so we're going to have her on early next year, okay?
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It's just going to happen early next year after she gives birth, okay?
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So for all the fucking low-IQ people out there that try to compare us to other podcasts,
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Bro, she literally went ahead and said on full send that she would go on our shit,
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and she's pregnant right now like eight, nine months.
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I think they create an account, and they start actually doubling you.
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You know, people have been saying that we need to make a fresh and fit Spanish version.
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Well, for context, I'm a 30-year-old man who's never even kissed a girl, let alone had sex with one.
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That's why we're not going to play with the girl.
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They complain that you kick off the 304 and then they complain you brought her back on.
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These dudes are more emotional than females, bro.
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It's literally one of the most annoying things because I actually do look at the feedback
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and I do try to make the people happy, but it's like, bro, it's like, what the fuck then?
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But if it's like criticism that contradicts itself, it's like, oh, okay.
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Bring the loser simp Neon back without his 304.
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And if you want to make it extreme, Zerka as well.
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You don't need to prove anything to us regarding the lawyer.
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She does porn and respectfully, no one wanted to see her.
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We all wanted her out the first time she was on.
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I think I heard someone said that she's going to do a podcast or some shit, which is comical
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to me because it's like, bro, no one is going to give a fuck what you got to say, man.
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Anytime I see girls that are like OnlyFans, chicks, or sex workers do a podcast, no one
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That's one thing that women need to understand is as soon as you start doing sex work, congratulations.
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Even if you're smart, you will never be taken seriously.
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They're just like, I want to see you get smashed.
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Lee Shinobi goes, I'm in favor of Rollers of a vasectomy tweet because the father of the
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Shout out to Myron Moe, Blitz, and FNF crew, Discord gang.
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And listen, let's get these last ones out the way.
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Albo Ace, when y'all do the cartels, don't forget about El Mencho and the CJMG.
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And yeah, as far as the Tates guys, we will do something with them probably by the end of
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I'm in talking with Andrew, even though they canceled him off WhatsApp.
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Because now we're going to actually get into the main topic at hand.
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From this point forward, guys, we're going to...
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And guys, like I said before, it's easier when you guys do FNS Super Chat because we don't
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have to screen it as hard as, like, with the Rumble Rants.
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The only thing that sucks is that we have to, like, screenshot it, capture it, edit it,
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and then put it up on the screen for y'all in the tab.
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But let's go ahead and hit that first tab, Bills, please.
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Edward Joseph Snowden, born June 21st, 1983, as an American, as a United States naturalized
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Russian citizen, and naturalized Russian citizen.
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Who was a computer intelligence consultant and a whistleblower who leaked highly classified
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information from the National Security Agency, NSA, in 2013 when he was an employee and subcontractor.
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His disclosures revealed numerous global surveillance programs, many run by the NSA and the Five Eyes
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intelligence allegiance, with the cooperation of telecommunication companies and European
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governments, and prompted a cultural discussion about national security and individual privacy.
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You guys are probably wondering, yo, what the fuck is Five Eyes?
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Guys, Five Eyes is all the English-speaking first world countries.
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England, well, the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada, New Zealand, Australia.
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That is the Five Eyes, my friend, of the intelligence community, okay?
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In 2013, Snowden was hired by an NSA contractor, Booz Allen Hamilton, after previous employment
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Snowden says he gradually became disillusioned with the programs with which he was involved,
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and that he tried to raise his ethical concerns through internal channels, but was ignored.
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On May 20th, 2013, Snowden flew to Hong Kong after leaving his job at the NSA facility in
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Hawaii, and in early June, he revealed thousands of classified NSA documents to journalists Glenn
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Greenwald, Laura Poitras, Barton Gleeman, and Ewan McCaskill.
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Snowden came to international attention after stories based on a material appeared in The Guardian,
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So it took him seven years to get that residency, which is what it's taking right now currently
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Okay, and then he became a citizen three years later.
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Yes, he got an asylum, and he started asking for like a visa, for like a temporal visa.
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And he started renovating that visa like year on, year on, year on, because I think that
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So it took him seven years to get that residency approved.
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Fun fact, guys, that's what it's taking right now in the United States to get a residency.
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So that's what it's going to take for me to get a residency.
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So, guys, this interview right here was done in June, right when he basically came to the
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This is an interview with, you know, and I'm making jokes on Greenwald, but, you know, shout
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Um, uh, he's a, uh, he's a, uh, uh, he's a, um, excuse me, a reporter, uh, journalist.
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And, uh, let's go ahead and see what, why Ed Snowden did what he did.
00:32:28.900
I work for Booz Allen Hamilton as an infrastructure analyst for NSA, uh, in Hawaii.
00:32:35.080
What are some of the positions that you held previously within the intelligence community?
00:32:41.380
Uh, I've been, uh, a systems engineer, systems administrator, uh, senior advisor, uh, for the,
00:32:50.000
uh, central intelligence agency, solutions consultant, and a, uh, telecommunications information
00:32:57.020
One of the things people are going to be most interested in, in, in, in trying to understand
00:33:02.320
what, who you are and, and what you're thinking, is there came some point in time when you crossed
00:33:08.400
this line of thinking about being a whistleblower, um, to making the choice to actually become
00:33:16.180
Walk people through that decision-making process.
00:33:20.740
Uh, when you're in positions of, of privileged access, like a, a systems administrator for
00:33:27.480
these sort of intelligence community agencies, you're exposed to a lot more information on
00:33:33.500
And because of that, you see things that, uh, may be disturbing, but, uh, over the course
00:33:38.440
of a normal person's career, you'd only see one or two.
00:33:41.660
Uh, when, um, so guys in the, in the U S government, the way it works a lot of times when
00:33:44.700
it comes to like, you know, access to, um, databases and stuff like that is the government
00:33:51.880
Um, and basically you're going to get information needed to know to perform your duties.
00:33:56.960
That, that includes information that you're briefed on as well as access to databases
00:34:02.980
So, um, whatever is required to do your job is basically what you get.
00:34:06.920
And they're going to give you the minimum required to do your job.
00:34:10.160
Um, now with that said, as a, as an administrator, like he's basically saying, right, um, you're
00:34:16.880
going to get access on a very high level, which I'm sure at this point now, um, you know,
00:34:22.200
everything is obviously way more strict than it used to be, but you're going to get way
00:34:28.280
So he was able to see things that other people wouldn't be able to see.
00:34:31.080
So, um, so a regular employee would only get access to do their job.
00:34:36.620
Someone like him, that's an administrator, uh, just based off of his position and him
00:34:40.540
being in a situation where he's creating programs, he's overseeing certain things.
00:34:44.340
He's, uh, responsible for making sure that it's not breached, et cetera.
00:34:47.360
He's going to have a higher level of, um, of access to anyone else.
00:34:51.620
So that's how he was able to be privy to a lot of these things that ended up, you know,
00:34:55.740
disturbing him later on, as far as like, um, um, the intelligence community's capabilities
00:35:06.620
That's not our place to decide, the public needs to decide whether these programs and
00:35:11.120
policies are right or wrong, and I'm willing to go on the record to defend the authenticity
00:35:15.560
of them and say, I didn't change these, I didn't modify the story, this is the truth,
00:35:19.620
this is what's happening, you should decide whether we need to be doing this.
00:35:22.620
Have you given thought to what it is that the U.S. government's response to your conduct
00:35:27.480
is in terms of what they might say about you, how they might try to depict you, what they
00:35:32.620
Yeah, I could be, you know, rendered by the CIA, I could have people come after me, or
00:35:37.120
any of their third-party partners, you know, they work closely with a number of other nations.
00:35:41.560
Or, you know, they could pay off the triads or, you know, any of their agents or assets.
00:35:45.620
We've got a CIA station just up the road in the consulate here in Hong Kong, and I'm sure
00:35:50.120
they're going to be very busy for the next week.
00:35:52.620
And that's a fear I'll live under for the rest of my life, however long that happens
00:35:57.120
You can't come forward against the world's most powerful intelligence agencies and be
00:36:02.280
completely free from risk because they're such powerful adversaries that no one can
00:36:08.060
If they want to get you, they'll get you in time.
00:36:10.620
But at the same time, you have to make a determination about what it is that's important to you.
00:36:14.960
And if living unfreely but comfortably is something you're willing to accept, and I think many
00:36:23.560
You can get up every day, you can go to work, you can collect your large paycheck for relatively
00:36:28.160
little work against the public interest and go to sleep at night after watching a few shows.
00:36:36.960
Definitely, I would estimate he was a six-figure earner.
00:36:39.660
Angie, can you look up and see how much he was earning back then?
00:36:42.720
As a contractor, he was definitely probably earning in the six-figure range easily, especially
00:36:52.300
And then also, yeah, and then also in the government, guys, you get paid based on where you are.
00:36:56.440
So you get some of the cost of cola, which is cost of locality, right, local area.
00:37:03.840
And Hawaii has some of the higher colas because it's obviously an expensive place to live.
00:37:08.000
New York City, San Francisco, Hawaii, which he probably was under the Honolulu.
00:37:20.960
So, you know, obviously the guy took an enormous amount of risk to, you know, get this information
00:37:26.960
He had his girlfriend at the time and, you know, decided, you know, fuck it, I'm gonna go
00:37:30.560
ahead and expose this information and put himself in a very dangerous situation.
00:37:34.880
And yes, the CIA, NSA, all these agencies definitely have other international counterparts
00:37:40.100
that will work with them, you know, to include the Five Eyes, you know, obviously, and the
00:37:48.160
But yeah, so, you know, the U.S. is obviously gonna be very close with Australian intelligence,
00:37:56.380
British intelligence, New Zealand intelligence, Canadian intelligence, the Mossad, right, Israeli
00:38:03.380
So, any of these countries, right, that are strong allies with the United States are absolutely
00:38:09.380
Well, at least back then, I don't think Snowden is as much of a priority right now.
00:38:13.660
But back then, they were definitely trying to get his ass right away, man, because when
00:38:17.820
it comes to the Espionage Act, they try to make an example out of everyone, especially
00:38:23.680
We covered on this channel, Robert Hanson, if you guys remember, he was the FBI agent that
00:38:31.040
And he ended up getting pretty much life in prison.
00:38:33.300
He just died a couple months back, he died this year, in Florence, Colorado, right?
00:38:37.820
And one of the, ADX, if I'm not mistaken, is in Florence, Colorado, the worst federal
00:38:45.440
Like, literally, 23-1, locked down, in solitary confinement, it's hell, and he died in there
00:38:52.420
So, there is no doubt in my mind that Snowden would have got, if they had actually arrested
00:38:56.700
him, he would have gotten life in prison and or the death penalty for this.
00:39:03.600
At least, because people say, because he didn't have, like, a full college degree.
00:39:07.820
Um, he wasn't being, like, taken seriously as, like, a full, like, pay contract, contractor.
00:39:19.720
Um, can we go ahead and put in an inflation calculator, um, for 2013, 135, what that would
00:39:27.820
Probably, like, 150, 160, somewhere in that range.
00:39:30.440
People are rumoring that with that clearance that he had, um, for working for the CIA,
00:39:35.120
he would have made, um, 200K, but since he didn't have, like, a college, uh, like, a
00:39:45.000
So, with contractors, see, as a full-on government employee, they have to pay you off the pay scale.
00:40:01.640
If you realize that that's the world that you helped create, and it's gonna get worse
00:40:10.560
So, in today's dollar, he was making about almost $180,000 a year.
00:40:15.560
To give away, to, to, you know, say, to throw it all to the side and say, fuck it, I'm
00:40:19.940
gonna go ahead and expose the fact that they're collecting phone numbers on, on, on
00:40:23.620
Leave his girlfriend behind, leave Hawaii behind, run over to China, you know, hide
00:40:28.560
himself in Hong Kong, and then eventually flee to Russia.
00:40:33.760
The next generation who extend the capabilities of this sort of architecture of oppression,
00:40:38.100
you realize that you might be willing to accept any risk, and it doesn't matter what
00:40:41.780
the outcome is, so long as the public gets to make their own decisions about how that's
00:40:47.480
Because even if you're not doing anything wrong, you're being watched and recorded,
00:40:50.240
and the storage capability of these systems increases every year consistently by orders
00:40:56.020
of magnitude, to where it's getting to the point you don't have to have done anything
00:41:00.840
You simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody, even by a wrong call, and
00:41:05.020
then they can use the system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you've
00:41:08.700
ever made, every friend you've ever discussed something with, and attack you on that basis
00:41:13.760
to sort of derive suspicion from an innocent life and paint anyone in the context of a
00:41:19.420
We are currently sitting in a room in Hong Kong, which is where we are because you traveled
00:41:25.980
Talk a little bit about why it is that you came here, and specifically, there are going
00:41:30.760
to be people who will speculate that what you really intend to do is to defect to the
00:41:35.320
country that many see as the number one rival of the United States, which is China, and
00:41:39.100
that what you're really doing is essentially seeking to aid an enemy of the United States
00:41:49.500
So are you actually defecting because you're trying to do the right thing, or because you're
00:41:52.700
trying to claim asylum in a country that is an adversary of the United States and sell
00:42:01.240
If you guys have ever watched his interviews, I watched both of his interviews on Joe Rogan,
00:42:05.180
which we're going to play a clip of from him as well.
00:42:10.920
Served in the military, ended up getting injured in the military.
00:42:13.780
He wanted to do SF, but he couldn't because he just didn't have the physical capability.
00:42:17.300
So he ended up getting in, doing contract work.
00:42:20.820
If I'm not mistaken, his father or his grandfather is FBI.
00:42:26.020
So he comes from a long line of government employees, guys.
00:42:42.800
There are assertions in those arguments that are sort of embedded in the questioning of
00:42:52.960
The first is that China is an enemy of the United States.
00:42:56.000
I mean, there are conflicts between the United States government and the Chinese PRC government.
00:43:00.880
But the peoples inherently, you know, we don't care.
00:43:08.100
We're the largest trading partners out there for each other.
00:43:11.480
Additionally, Hong Kong has a strong tradition of free speech.
00:43:17.540
Mainland China does have significant restrictions on free speech.
00:43:20.840
But the Hong Kong, the people of Hong Kong, have a long tradition of protesting in the streets,
00:43:26.840
The Internet is not filtered here, no more so than any other Western government.
00:43:31.240
And I believe that the Hong Kong government is actually independent in relation to a lot
00:43:39.840
If your motive had been to harm the United States and help its enemies, or if your motive
00:43:43.540
had been personal and material gain, were there things that you could have done with these
00:43:46.380
documents to advance those goals that you didn't end up doing?
00:43:50.400
I mean, anybody in the positions of access with the technical capabilities that I had could,
00:43:55.340
you know, suck out secrets, pass them on the open market to Russia.
00:43:58.220
You know, they always have an open door, as we do.
00:44:01.660
I had access to, you know, the full rosters of everyone working at the NSA, the entire
00:44:05.620
intelligence community, and undercover assets around the world, the location.
00:44:09.680
Guys, that is scary that he had all that information.
00:44:12.280
And, you know, thankfully he didn't, you know, go ahead and say, you know what, let me make
00:44:16.840
And, you know, because, trust me, guys, there are countries that will pay millions upon millions
00:44:22.360
upon millions of dollars to get that information.
00:44:24.600
You know, we didn't, I did an episode, guys, on Anna Montez, okay, who, they called her
00:44:34.460
And what ended up happening was she was selling secrets to the Cubans, you know, when Fidel
00:44:39.900
Castro was in office, and she was doing this in the 90s, well, no, she was doing it since
00:44:47.300
But, you know, she got caught in the early 2000s.
00:44:49.380
She actually just got released from prison, like, this year, too.
00:44:57.600
As you guys know, we reacted to the documentary Classified, which is actually really good.
00:45:03.520
But once we start, I estimate, guys, that sometime this month or next month, we're going
00:45:07.920
to start doing the Thursday streams, Thursday podcasts again.
00:45:14.040
I'm just, you know, getting some things on the side.
00:45:16.340
But regardless, Cuba, for example, right, what they do is they steal secrets from the United
00:45:21.300
States, and what they do is they sell it on the black market.
00:45:27.220
They sell it to all of our, you know, main adversaries that aren't necessarily as friendly
00:45:31.620
And Snowden absolutely could have taken some of that stuff and sold it to the highest bidder,
00:45:38.120
And so that, you know, on my end makes me think, okay, you know, because here's the thing
00:45:45.040
Some people are like, he's a hero, and then a bunch of other people are like, he's a traitor.
00:45:49.660
And for me, I need to think about it a little bit more, because I'm split with it.
00:45:54.820
Because as a guy that used to hold a clearance and used to work for the government, I see why
00:46:01.080
But at the same time, I see why he did what he did as well.
00:46:13.080
It's a very, very tricky subject as far as like being a whistleblower, et cetera, for
00:46:18.400
But maybe I'll have a more formulated opinion on it a little bit throughout the show.
00:46:23.920
So while we were talking about his background, his maternal grandfather used to be a senior
00:46:32.320
He was working in the Pentagon in 2001 during the September 11th.
00:46:35.400
That's actually what prompted him, I think, to join the military, was 9-11.
00:46:42.340
And he comes from a long line of government employees.
00:46:46.700
It's just that it really bothered him to see the overexpansive surveillance state that
00:46:54.900
And also, you guys got to understand as well, going back a little bit here, right?
00:47:00.120
After 9-11, guys, something was passed called the Patriot Act, okay?
00:47:05.700
And with the Patriot Act, it basically, Bush said, you know what, man?
00:47:15.720
We're going to go ahead and, you know, heighten security to the highest level.
00:47:21.240
And we don't necessarily care about your individual liberty as much, right?
00:47:24.840
And the thing is, is that, and I've said this before, and I'll say it again, and this is
00:47:28.300
something that Americans really need to understand.
00:47:32.540
You can have the utmost security or you can have the utmost liberty.
00:47:38.780
If you're going to have the utmost liberty, your security is going to have to come down.
00:47:41.960
If you're going to have the utmost security, right, then your liberty is going to go down.
00:47:45.720
You cannot have them both coexist at the highest levels because in order for you to have liberty,
00:47:54.820
But in order for you to have the most security, you must give up liberty to a degree.
00:47:58.140
Think about when you're going through the, you know, the airports and TSA is over here
00:48:11.540
Now, obviously, there's a delicate balance where you want to be in the middle, et cetera,
00:48:15.040
In 2023, guys, in today's day and age of social media, et cetera, you guys do realize
00:48:18.960
that when you click those little things like I, you know, I agree or I authorize or I waive,
00:48:24.060
whatever the hell, you're basically telling these apps, these phone companies, et cetera,
00:48:29.880
that you're okay with giving your private information away.
00:48:35.600
When you put, when you make a social media account, when you make a Twitter, when you make
00:48:38.820
Instagram, when you make a Facebook, when you sign up for one of these apps, when you do
00:48:42.720
any of this stuff, you are absolutely already waiving your rights and privileges away off
00:48:47.760
of that like that, guys, by having a smartphone and have using any of these apps that when
00:48:52.960
you, everyone scrolls through and they don't read it, whatever.
00:48:55.120
If you actually go through and read it, yo, they're literally telling you, oh yeah, we're
00:49:00.560
They go, we're going to go look at your browser history.
00:49:08.320
They will not, not only do they collect on, um, on your, uh, on the device that your TikTok
00:49:14.820
is on, they collect on every single device that your TikTok is logged in on.
00:49:20.160
So if you're logged in on TikTok on your iPad, whether, or you're logged in on your phone
00:49:24.440
or logged on on your computer or whatever else, everyone that uses that device, TikTok
00:49:29.260
is collecting information on that individual's browsing habits.
00:49:32.880
That's how they're able to target you for what ads to make money.
00:49:41.580
It was a little bit different than it is now, but nowadays everyone's giving their shit
00:49:54.300
So, um, so on today's day and age, there is, there's very little Liberty, man.
00:49:58.780
If I'm going to be all the way 1 million with y'all, you know what I mean?
00:50:13.260
So the Cuban military keeps all their gears underground.
00:50:24.300
Or weapons, like canyons, all that stuff, like the things that to, in case, like, for
00:50:41.760
Dude, they've tried to assassinate Fidel Castro so many times and he literally stopped
00:50:52.440
They steal a lot of intelligence from the United States, man.
00:50:55.500
Cuba's like the, uh, the American intelligence, uh, like drug dealer, almost.
00:51:00.520
Because they're so close to the United States, so they're always trying to steal shit.
00:51:05.120
I said at W, W, um, they, they, they, they love Haitians.
00:51:24.080
Uh, if I had just wanted to harm the U.S., you know, that, you could shut down the, the
00:51:33.320
And I, I think for anyone, um, making that argument, they need to think, if they were in
00:51:37.120
my position, uh, and, you know, you live a privileged life, you, you're living in Hawaii
00:51:40.660
in paradise and making a ton of money, what would it take to make you leave everything
00:51:46.080
The, the greatest fear that I have regarding, um, the outcome, uh, for America of these disclosures
00:51:55.140
Um, people will see in the media, uh, all of these disclosures.
00:51:59.240
They'll know the lengths that, uh, the, the government is going to grant themselves powers
00:52:03.920
unilaterally, um, to create greater control over American society and global society.
00:52:10.340
But they, they won't be willing to take the risks necessarily to stand up and fight to change
00:52:17.200
things, to force their representatives to actually take a stand in their interests.
00:52:22.480
Uh, and the months ahead, uh, the years ahead, it's only going to get worse until eventually
00:52:28.680
there will be a time where, uh, policies will change.
00:52:32.120
Because the only thing that restricts the activities of the surveillance state are policy.
00:52:36.480
Even our agreements with, with other sovereign governments, we consider that to be, uh, a stipulation
00:52:43.860
And because of that, a new leader will be elected.
00:52:45.880
They'll flip the switch, uh, say that, um, because of the crisis, because of the
00:52:52.320
dangers that we face in the world, you know, some, some new and unpredicted threat, we need
00:52:57.460
We need more power and there will be nothing that people can do at that point to oppose
00:53:03.460
And that was the first interview that he gave guys right when the information came out.
00:53:09.960
Obviously this is going to cause a huge ruckus, right?
00:53:22.180
and then we got the, we got a documentary here that we'll play a part of as well.
00:53:25.940
Um, so after this happened, guys, 26 minutes is 26 minutes.
00:53:30.240
Um, and then go, go back to, um, so, uh, click the U S files, criminal complaint.
00:53:39.840
U S files, criminal charges against NSA whistleblower, Edward Snowden, uh, charges include theft
00:53:44.300
of government property and on the authorized communication and national defense information.
00:53:49.680
So they're going to spell defense and all that other stuff a little bit weird.
00:53:56.380
Um, and then click that next tab over USA versus Edward J. Snowden.
00:54:05.700
That is a criminal complaint from the United States district court for the Eastern district
00:54:11.820
Um, and, uh, 18 USC 644, 641 theft of the U S government property, unauthorized communication,
00:54:18.440
That's a seven 93 that's under the espionage act.
00:54:20.720
And then you got it again, seven 93, eight three willful communication, uh, classified
00:54:25.560
communication, intelligence information to an unauthorized person, which obviously is
00:54:29.160
who the media in this case in the general public.
00:54:31.440
And, um, uh, and, and you can see here, this was, this, uh, complaint was written by a special
00:54:38.360
Um, for the FBI, probably out of the Washington DC field office.
00:54:41.640
And then it was signed by judge, um, John F Anderson.
00:54:48.020
So, uh, guys, uh, simply put, this is still sealed.
00:54:52.540
We have, no one has read this criminal complaint because Snowden is in Russia.
00:54:57.120
So they can't unseal an indictment or unseal a criminal complaint unless the individual
00:55:03.840
Because the criminal complaint is going to reveal how they built their investigation.
00:55:09.560
It's going to reveal, uh, investigative strategies.
00:55:11.660
It's going to reveal, um, witnesses, interviews, all that stuff.
00:55:17.940
No, as you guys know, we've read, you know, a million criminal complaints on the show at
00:55:21.340
this point, not a million, but you guys know, we've read a lot, maybe, maybe almost a hundred
00:55:25.540
at this point, uh, criminal complaints on this, on this podcast guys.
00:55:28.660
And as you guys know, to a criminal complaint is a, um, it's a way for you to arrest someone,
00:55:35.880
You follow the criminal complaint, which has a affidavit attached to it.
00:55:38.780
That affidavit lists out all the probable cause that established your, you know, need to
00:55:43.240
your establish a probable cause to arrest individual.
00:55:45.280
Um, and it obviously, um, shows investigative techniques, informants, witnesses interviewed,
00:55:51.820
It shows pictures sometimes, depending on how advanced it was.
00:55:54.220
In this case, it's going to show classified documents that he, um, leaked and or classified
00:55:59.900
Uh, so, um, the criminal complaint, uh, and I'm willing, willing to bet that that criminal
00:56:05.320
complaint is probably 20 to 50 pages, a hundred pages.
00:56:07.820
Anytime a case like this is that big, um, and it's going to be that type of media, they're
00:56:12.040
going to make sure that they have their T's crossed, I's dotted.
00:56:14.040
It's going to be very thorough, very well written.
00:56:17.460
It's probably not everything known to the agent.
00:56:21.180
You know, obviously the first paragraph is, you know, my name is such and such.
00:56:25.760
Um, I've done this type of investigation, right?
00:56:27.660
You give your, it's called the, I love me paragraph.
00:56:31.260
Type in, I'll pull up one of mine for y'all right now, man.
00:56:34.140
Give me a one in the chat if y'all want me to pull up one of my criminal complaints for
00:56:37.000
Give me a two of you guys want me to just keep pushing on.
00:56:39.340
Cause I'm thinking in my head, like, man, they're probably thinking like, what the fuck
00:56:42.820
Give me ones if you guys want me to pull up one of my criminal complaints.
00:56:45.120
Give me a two of you guys want me to, uh, just continue on with this note and stuff.
00:56:48.780
I'd be worried if these things be allowed, Martin.
00:56:53.180
Yeah, he can, you're going to go Google it, right?
00:56:56.260
You can Google, uh, but it's going to show up your, his name.
00:57:04.460
One thing people can't say is that, uh, that I'm a fraud or anything like, anyone that calls
00:57:15.500
Let's, uh, let's go ahead and have fun with it because the people doxed me and this is how actually
00:57:39.700
Do it on the side and it's going to probably show a criminal complaint.
00:57:42.540
I ain't even, you ain't even have to type that much.
00:57:43.900
That's why I'm not even like, because my name is so unique.
00:57:53.100
Type in, type in, type in, um, type in space, uh, criminal complaint or some shit.
00:58:05.820
For all the losers, before we pull this thing up real fast, uh, minimize it real fast.
00:58:09.100
Because all the losers say, oh, Myron, you're scared to use your real name.
00:58:16.900
When I started this stuff, my fitness business, everything else like that, I was still working
00:58:22.160
I was still special agent on Homeland Security and Investigation at the time, right?
00:58:27.180
If you Google my fucking name, you're going to see, right, the criminal complaints come
00:58:35.640
So I was like, yo, let me probably not use my real name when I do this internet stuff
00:58:39.420
because people will be able to dox me immediately.
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So some fucking idiot decides, I'm going to dox Myron, he's a fiddle snitch, blah, blah.
00:58:44.740
No, I control the snitches, you fucking loser, okay?
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And then number two, it's funny because once they doxed me, I said, you know what?
00:58:54.440
Let's go ahead and start a channel and teach guys about how this stuff is really done.
00:59:00.520
So to all the haters out there that doxed me, et cetera, thank you.
00:59:03.840
You made a whole other YouTube channel and people got to see a side of me they'd never
00:59:11.620
You type down your name and it says, I'm referred to Patterns, I'm referred to Homeland Security,
00:59:17.640
I'm referred to Family, Wikipedia, agent, wife, what the fuck?
01:00:00.140
I'll tell you this, if I do have one, Angie's going to find her.
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Like, this just in, toxic, masculine, alpha, fake, alpha male.
01:00:14.760
Go back to the Snowden complaint, and then we're going to show mine.
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And I'm going to go through a criminal complaint with you guys now so you guys know how to read
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Normally, guys, and then once you submit your criminal complaint and it gets signed by the
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judge, you get an arrest warrant, okay, for the individual.
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In this case, obviously, he's not in the U.S., so they weren't able to unseal the affidavit.
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But, since I haven't actually done this shit before, let's go to that last tab over there.
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You can see here, a criminal complaint by telephone or other.
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To bring aliens in the United States and encourage them.
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So, this was a human smuggling case that I did where the guy was bringing in Sri Lankan
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nationals, actually, into the United States destined for Canada.
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This was a really, I won the director's award for this investigation, guys.
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And I promise y'all, I will talk about this case in way more detail.
01:01:33.020
But, this is, we did a crazy undercover on this thing and everything else like that.
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I'm a special agent on Homeland Security Investigations, right?
01:01:53.720
So, you talk about yourself and your experience, right?
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I'm currently assigned to a human smuggling group in the HSI Miami field office where I'm
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responsible for conducting investigations regarding violations of federal laws, particularly
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Including violations of Title VIII, United States Code Section 1324.
01:02:16.520
Part of this assignment, I was an HSI special agent in Laredo, Texas, where I conducted
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investigations as a lead case agent related to drug smuggling, trafficking, weapons, violations,
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border violence, kidnappings, and human smuggling.
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And then it goes into what this criminal complaint is going to be.
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The affidavit submitted in support of a criminal complaint charging, I was going to say Shalia.
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Knowing Lee conspired to bring aliens to the United States, blah, blah, blah.
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The statements contained in this affidavit are based on my personal knowledge as well
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as information provided to me by other law enforcement officers and law enforcement personnel.
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Because this affidavit is submitted for the limited purpose of establishing probable cause
01:02:59.160
for the criminal complaint, it does not include every fact known to me in connection with this
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I have only set forth the facts that I believe are necessary to establish probable cause where
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the contents of documents or the action statements and conversations of others
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They are reported in substance and in part unless noted otherwise.
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I put that there because, because I wrote this complaint myself, but I put that there,
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guys, because you don't want to, you're not going to put everything in the complaint.
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You're just going to put the bare minimum to get your probable cause, get your arrest
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In this case, he was in a foreign country and we went over there and got him.
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Um, but, uh, and I'll talk about this case in more detail, guys.
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If you read that complaint, that's only some of the investigation.
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Um, but yo, bro, like yo, that's why do you guys think I make fun of so many of these
01:03:43.100
And I fucking say like a lot of y'all are fucking losers, blah, blah, blah.
01:03:46.740
I was out here doing real fucking shit, international investigations, picking up really dangerous
01:03:54.620
This dude had some ties with some really bad guys that I'm not even going to fucking mention
01:03:57.520
on this, on, on, uh, on this podcast, uh, because I can't, I, it's fucking classified
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But what I will say is, excuse me, what I will say is that I was out here doing real shit.
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You can Google my name and see fucking documents.
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So for everyone out there talking shit about these guards are frauds and blah, blah, blah.
01:04:17.100
Why are you over here recording videos on your fucking shitty ass Sony sitting in a, in a
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Oh, I'm going to talk shit about fresh and fit, blah, blah, blah.
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That's why I don't respect a lot of these loser ass YouTubers that criticize us to talk
01:04:33.900
But anyway, with that said, I'm going to woosah, calm myself down a bit.
01:04:37.920
Um, but yeah, guys, that is a criminal complaint.
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So in this case with Snowden, um, it's sealed guys.
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So we can go back to, we can get rid of my stuff.
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I'm going to see what this person is saying about you.
01:04:54.800
It's saying that your favorite song is Toxic by Britney Spears.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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I do like Britney Spears, but with that said, even though she's fucking crazy right now.
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They said I'm worth like $600K or some shit like that.
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I admit that I'm not the best Muslim, but bro, that's what I'm solving a lot of the world's
01:06:31.840
It says your favorite color is black and blue, and your favorite movie is Wall Street.
01:06:46.800
They probably saw a couple of pods, and they're like, yo, he uses a sound effect.
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It says your favorite car is a Bugatti and a Lamborghini.
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Bro, remember, bro, I was like the most blue pillet of the blue pillet of the most blue pillets.
01:07:29.600
I'm actually well aware of almost all of Nicholas Sparks' movies.
01:07:48.960
I actually haven't been caught up on the past couple of years since watching Fresh A Fit.
01:08:06.480
Zerka, imagine pulling up on a motherfucker 20 pounds lighter than you and getting rocked.
01:08:14.980
They're talking about Zerka and this guy getting in a fight, HS Tiki Taki.
01:08:22.720
How do you pick up girls on your car on the first date or in general, especially in Florida,
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Setting my support as a woman who admires all that FNF staff do.
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W. Fedrax, W. Myron, W. Angie, W. Moe, and W. J. Bills.
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Thanks for the content, for my long work drives.
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She's going to help us out with researching some stuff, everything else like that.
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I guess she embraced what the chat was calling her.
01:09:14.360
Nate, shout out to Myron and the Fed Reacts team.
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Please investigate the Seth Jackson case where a co-conspirator was set free.
01:09:25.620
Ali goes, the point about the terms and conditions on apps is interesting for both a contract theory
01:09:32.960
What do you think about the legalities arguments in the future?
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Why aren't we legislating against their validity?
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If you want to use their app, it's their terms.
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Why are so many men restrained and locked up in the system who are innocent by the lawyers
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and attorneys, police, and other people who are a part of the justice system?
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Why Ed Snowden is the GOAT when Daniel Rigamon is the real GOAT?
01:10:00.960
And before we show that, thank God it's just $5.
01:10:30.400
Regarding the question about the temps and conditions thing, I think that stuff is going
01:10:44.680
Let's just transition from that one right there.
01:10:54.620
The whole organization is so woke, they asked me if I was pregnant at their clinic when I'm
01:10:58.960
During June, every email is about gay, sex, and trannies.
01:11:04.840
Matteo goes, where do you see the state of cybersecurity and AI heading in the next year?
01:11:17.100
I don't know if you guys saw that news that Bad Bunny,
01:11:20.140
just got pissed off because there is a song trending on TikTok that AI, a guy that is
01:11:27.180
actually verified on Spotify is making songs with AI and he's making a profit out of it.
01:11:33.020
And he made a song, like a brand new song with Bad Bunny's voice with AI software.
01:11:41.460
Like he made, like he has a WhatsApp channel with 16 million people in it.
01:11:48.220
And he said there, if you guys are my fans, you're not listening to that shit on TikTok.
01:11:55.820
Like you're not supporting me right now because you like that shit.
01:11:59.320
And this is why I created this because he just dropped a new album last week.
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This is why I created this new album because this is for my real fans.
01:12:08.680
Because you guys are not listening to that shit right now with the AI song on TikTok.
01:12:16.660
And I saw an interview of that guy that created that software, which is like real software that's
01:12:21.500
creating AI songs, like with artist voices and stuff.
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Like that's how they did the Drake one and stuff too, probably.
01:12:36.820
And he said that when he saw that, he was like, man, I'm making the real competition.
01:12:43.400
This is going to be like a new thing and a new generation for music.
01:12:58.060
The AI is going to be like a worldwide thing, man.
01:13:12.520
Mo, can you pull it up real quick and throw in the chat for them?
01:13:43.660
Mara, with all the drama going on in Miami, fights and guys getting jumped, stay away from
01:14:12.780
Did you see that dude that was in your podcast named Nick broke up with this girl?
01:14:17.680
Yo, you guys have been telling me that for a bit.
01:14:19.940
How do y'all know that he broke up with her in the chat?
01:14:25.600
Did someone in the chat tell me, like, how y'all know that he actually broke up with her?
01:14:40.960
There's a guy that you had, like, a copal therapy thing?
01:14:58.320
Like, the girlfriend was a porn star, like a...
01:15:37.960
Like, yo, you're literally getting smashed by, like, BBCs on Pornhub,
01:15:53.600
Because I told him this shit when he came over here, right?
01:15:58.640
I told him when I was like, bro, she's a whore.
01:16:11.560
Like, and the thing is, is that she's been through shit.
01:16:20.280
Like, bro, like, yo, don't commit to these girls.
01:16:23.120
Women that are porn stars are never going to be suitable long-term women.
01:16:28.800
Go find yourself a nice girl that's not going to embarrass you.
01:16:33.200
What's up with Neon and Nick and all these guys wifing up these 304s, man?
01:16:52.600
I think I saw a clip of this guy, Neon, telling that guy that he wanted to see a video of his girlfriend.
01:17:08.360
It's like, in my head, I'm like, why are these guys that got some status, they got some fame,
01:17:13.340
Like, nothing pisses me off more than seeing guys, like, be with women that don't deserve relationships.
01:17:19.940
Like, that shit makes me lose my fucking brain, bro.
01:17:22.960
Like, what do you guys not understand about catch and release?
01:17:39.820
Bruh, because I didn't even know who she was until, like, after the show.
01:17:43.060
And then when I saw, when I saw the little, the little, the Reddit post, bruh, when I saw the NSFW post, bruh, I,
01:17:56.140
The rant, that was, I'm like, bruh, if you gonna bust it wide open for all these dudes like that and expect to me to wipe you, bruh.
01:18:01.520
You know what I said that she broke up with him?
01:18:23.160
She was over here on fucking Porn Up getting hit with the Falcons.
01:18:29.360
And she has the nerve to go on there and say, I'm breaking up with him.
01:18:54.540
Man, Nick, if you're ever watching this, bro, if you ever see this or if this-
01:18:58.980
If this gets clipped, bro, I have a Fresh Fit episode for you, bro.
01:19:03.180
So, the episode featuring the roommates of Lil Loaded offing himself.
01:19:13.180
If that is the one episode that I recommend to any guy, bro, because I actually care about you.
01:19:27.680
I'm going to put it in the chat or any mods who can see it in the chat, bro.
01:19:32.040
That is the episode that I recommend to any guy that I want to help.
01:19:36.560
And anyone in the chat, if you have a friend who's frustratingly blue pill or you have a friend that you want to save or help out or a friend who's not getting it,
01:19:47.240
I recommend you send them that episode right there.
01:20:01.260
If you're watching this right now and you're with a woman that's, like, involved in some kind of sex work or something like that or she's super promiscuous or whatever, bro,
01:20:10.480
It's going to lead you to problems in the future, man.
01:20:13.740
There's plenty of good girls out there that y'all can go ahead and meet that aren't going to ruin your life, bro.
01:20:29.780
W's in the chat goes, I have a way better job and been hitting the gym.
01:20:32.880
Ian Healthy, focusing on my main goal, short and long-term goal.
01:20:40.740
By the way, Neon's girl, Sam, is the biggest clout demon.
01:20:48.500
Yo, all these OnlyFans girls are clout demons, bro.
01:20:51.520
That's why I tell y'all, don't take them seriously.
01:20:54.240
These eThots, these OnlyFans girls, any of these girls, bro, don't do it.
01:21:00.560
Because what's going to happen is whenever a girl's a clout chaser, she's involved in one of these types of things, she's always going to chase clout.
01:21:06.120
And a lot of times her chasing clout is going to put you in a weird position.
01:21:10.860
It's not like Angie was like, I asked Angie to come on and help me with Fed Reacts and shit like that.
01:21:22.500
But she don't want to be out in the spotlight and shit like that.
01:21:24.700
She has her profile private because a lot of y'all niggas are weirdos.
01:21:29.580
But girls that thrive on that shit, bro, no, man.
01:21:36.680
It's probably the Reddit mob in her DMs being weird.
01:21:41.320
Some of them send me messages like, yo, tell Angie to accept my request.
01:21:50.200
No, but I have a bunch of people DMing me and stuff.
01:21:54.580
All you're going to see are really gay stories of us together and stuff.
01:22:01.440
Her taking pictures of me and shit when I'm not looking.
01:22:08.360
She'll take weird, really awkward photos of me and shit.
01:22:42.660
A bunch of people take pictures with Myron every day.
01:22:57.960
Angie is real good about this shit, which I got to give her.
01:23:02.560
Anytime someone comes up and says hello or whatever, Angie will immediately say,
01:23:06.700
And she'll take their phone and take a picture, and she'll make sure she takes a good picture
01:23:13.260
Because, you know, sometimes people don't want to say it, or they don't want to be annoying
01:23:20.720
She'll be like, no, you're not going to do a selfie.
01:23:24.440
You're always like, this is what women are for.
01:23:31.660
If you ever meet Myron in the street, like, this is the speech.
01:23:34.960
He would take you the picture, and then he's like, uh...
01:23:50.520
Someone's got to tell these whores, someone's got to tell these bitches the truth.
01:23:54.080
Yeah, someone's got to tell these whores the truth.
01:23:57.300
When we literally started dating, I was like, what?
01:24:00.900
Hey, tell your friends stop simping, all right?
01:24:05.440
That's one thing I really like about Angie that she does.
01:24:08.120
That's why she travels with me everywhere, guys.
01:24:10.680
You know, when I leave Miami, she's always with me or whatever,
01:24:13.400
and anytime someone comes up, you know, they always...
01:24:16.420
She always takes a picture, so shout out to her for that.
01:24:22.100
I'm never going to be on some fucking weird old Hollywood shit,
01:24:25.020
Bro, I will stop what I'm fucking doing to take photos with y'all,
01:24:29.580
Even if I'm mad at Angie or some shit, I'll still take a picture with y'all.
01:24:43.000
Or when a woman gets in the way of the picture.
01:24:48.580
Like, there's times if a woman gets in the way...
01:24:56.480
The only time I was like, no, you're not going to take a picture
01:25:08.340
And we get out of our Uber and another guy is about to get in and he recognizes us.
01:25:12.560
Yeah, and he'd recognize them and he's like, oh, let's take a picture.
01:25:37.240
These are the guys from the podcast Fresh and Feed.
01:25:41.020
And I take the picture for them, for the guy, right?
01:26:26.920
Second day with my, we were walking down the street and the guy recognizes him and he's
01:26:37.420
And while I'm taking the picture, the girl's like, who's him?
01:26:42.360
She didn't want to fuck up the date for that other guy.
01:27:07.380
And then I said, I told Myra, like, she said to go to hell.
01:27:14.980
And I turned around and he was like, fuck this man.
01:27:44.520
That's exactly why I'd be telling girls that I work at a small, local radio station in downtown
01:27:54.860
And I'm going to do a little self-snitching, but it is what it is.
01:28:01.620
Y'all recent trip to Vegas, when y'all had just came back.
01:28:27.780
I was like, wait, because she was like, because she was like, who, like, who's this guy staring
01:29:00.000
Like, I'm always walking, and he was like, yo, Angie.
01:29:12.540
I was coming out of work, and somebody told me from the other side of the street.
01:29:18.920
And I turned around, and I was with a friend, and he was like, yo, Angie.
01:29:28.860
Like, if you're in Miami, he's going to see you at some point.
01:29:31.200
No, the other day, when my brother was in town, I was walking with my brother, and he
01:29:55.860
He, that's why he purposely drives around in light colored cars.
01:30:01.940
And she actually does not recognize you or fresh, so.
01:31:00.420
We were talking about Snowden for like 20 minutes.
01:31:02.540
And no, she was not during that time of the month, bro.
01:31:18.500
We got 1,800 of y'all watching right now on YouTube.
01:31:22.600
And then we got another, Bill, can you throw a number up on there for them on Rumble?
01:31:29.280
Well, we'll pull it up for y'all real quick on Rumble.
01:31:51.580
And I told you guys this before that this channel isn't necessarily profitable.
01:31:59.440
So, you know, it's about, you know, getting it out there.
01:32:02.840
So, the only thing I ask, guys, is like the video, subscribe to the channel if you haven't already.
01:32:08.160
Like, I mean, like I said before, man, we just enjoy giving y'all this sauce.
01:32:12.660
Timestamps will be in here so that if you watch this on the replay, you'll be able to skip to the Snowden parts.
01:32:18.340
I know we've been talking about a bunch of random shit here.
01:32:20.560
But, you know, the real ninjas watch FedReacts, man.
01:32:23.940
So, I figured you guys would like to see some things behind the scenes.
01:32:30.000
And we got almost 2,000 y'all watching on YouTube.
01:32:32.200
So, do me a favor and like the goddamn video, okay?
01:32:34.280
And subscribe to the channel if you haven't already.
01:32:41.120
Because we've been having them wait long enough.
01:33:05.280
So, the Justice Department on request to Hong Kong for Edward Snowden is a provincial arrest.
01:33:10.060
So, as y'all know, they tried to get him arrested and it didn't happen.
01:33:12.620
He ended up jumping on a plane and getting over to Russia.
01:33:18.460
They were kind of like, eh, you know what, bro?
01:33:22.340
So, he was able to escape and then hit the next tab.
01:33:38.000
This is a lawsuit, okay, in the civil court, all right?
01:33:41.960
United States of America versus Edward Snowden, right?
01:33:44.580
And they don't know, obviously, his exact address.
01:33:47.180
But what they're doing is, and Macmillan publishers, and what they're basically doing is, he wrote a book.
01:33:53.460
And in that book, he talked about a bunch of his stuff, right?
01:33:55.920
And in the introduction, we can, let's see how long the introduction is.
01:34:02.160
The United States of America brings a civil action for breach of contract and fiduciary obligation against defendant Edward Snowden,
01:34:07.400
a United States citizen who formerly worked as a contractor and staff employee for the CIA and employed as a contractor employee by the NSA,
01:34:13.340
and who published a book without submitting the manuscript for pre-publication review,
01:34:17.960
and has given speeches without submitting the necessary materials for pre-publication review,
01:34:22.900
in violation of his secrecy agreements and non-disclosure obligations in the United States.
01:34:26.120
Now, guys, if you're a government employee and you have a clearance, you have to sign a non-disclosure agreement, okay?
01:34:33.540
And if you do want to release a book after the fact and you want to be able to profit,
01:34:36.400
you have to be able to get it approved through the government agency at which gave you the clearance.
01:34:41.060
As relief defendants only, the United States also names Macmillan Publishers, Macmillan Publishing LLC,
01:34:47.280
Henry Hope Company, and Holzberg Publishers LLC.
01:34:51.160
No independent claims are asserted here and against their relief defendants.
01:34:54.620
Rather, they are named as necessary parties for the purpose of according to the United States to complete relief in this lawsuit.
01:35:01.400
Through this suit, the United States is not seeking to enjoin or restrain publication or distribution of Snowden's book.
01:35:08.660
Y'all could go ahead and keep selling the book and make your money, et cetera, but we're going to collect the revenue.
01:35:15.920
So, they went ahead and they actually ended up and clicked that second one.
01:35:23.460
And they were able to get final judgment and permanent injunction against Edward Snowden.
01:35:26.720
So, October 1st, 2020, they were able to go ahead and get the lawsuit going because I don't think Snowden appeared in court for obvious reasons.
01:35:36.540
So, they were able to go ahead and now they're able to collect all of the money from that book.
01:35:50.200
And this is, we're not going to play the whole thing, guys, but we are going to play when Edward Snowden realized government spying had gone too far.
01:36:07.160
He's going to talk about the police state under Obama.
01:36:11.220
So, right after he did that first interview, that when he, where he.
01:36:16.400
Just do it on YouTube, not Google, so I can search through.
01:36:21.460
The Department of Justice canceled his passport.
01:36:27.140
So, when he went to Russia, he got detained for like a month.
01:36:33.540
But he ended up getting stuck in Russia and it worked out.
01:36:36.440
And Russia, right, like, you know, there we go, third one down.
01:36:50.680
He originally wanted, where did he want to, did he want to go to Ecuador?
01:37:00.740
Chad, correct me if I'm wrong, but he wanted to go somewhere in South America.
01:37:06.460
Which, when he was in the embassy for like two years.
01:37:25.500
Ecuador was one of the Simón Bolivar countries.
01:37:32.920
Because Ecuador has a non-extradition and doesn't extradite with the United States.
01:37:43.620
But Russia, though, on the other hand, Putin, right?
01:37:48.920
They look at it like, yo, we're able to stand up against the United States.
01:37:51.560
Because, bro, everyone and their mom was trying to get Snowden when he was on a run.
01:38:09.940
They forced landed his plane in Austria because they thought that Snowden was on.
01:38:15.180
Like, that just goes to show the crazy power that they had.
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Let's go ahead and click this Rogan clip right here with the Obama thing.
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And, yo, shout out to Rogan for being able to get an interview with Snowden, man.
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So you're in this position where you have this information and you know that these surveillance systems are in place and they're unconstitutional and you feel this deep responsibility to let the American people know about this.
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So this is covered extensively in the book because it took a long time.
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People like to think it's like a cinematic moment where I find this golden document, like this stellar wind report.
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And that's the closest thing to a smoking gun, right, that exists.
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But look, if you found that, you can read that later.
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And, like, imagine yourself being like, oh, I'm going to go outside on the courthouse steps and wave this thing and burn my life to the ground, burn my family to the ground.
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The question is, what would it take for you to light a match and burn your life to the ground?
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Guys, I said I would try to get Snowden on the podcast, not Rogan, guys, not Rogan.
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I was trying to get, I'm talking about Snowden.
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But, yeah, guys, we got almost 4,000 y'all watching on Rumble and then another, you know, 1,800 on YouTube, guys.
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And I really do think you guys should watch this interview that he did with Rogan.
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So you were right about he was going to go to Ecuador.
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And then he says here that Snowden had a seat reserved to continue to Cuba.
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Yeah, because if Ecuador wouldn't take him to Cuba, definitely would have been like, fuck yeah, come on over.
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Yeah, so he was intended to transit through Russia, but he was stopped en route.
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At the time, I think it was John Kerry was the Secretary of State at the time.
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To get over that hump because I was waiting for somebody else to do it.
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When I saw people like Ron Wyden on this, when I saw people like the court case that I showed before where people were actively challenging these programs, right?
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And, you know, there are a lot of people who are going to be in, you know, the YouTube comments or whatever and go, oh, I knew this was happening.
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He initially was the one that came out and spoke about this issue.
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And so, yeah, Bill Binney is part of, shall we say, the group of early NSA whistleblowers who came with Thomas Drake, Bill Binney, Kirk Wiebe, I believe, and Ed Loomis.
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Tom Drake, who was a senior executive at the NSA, this is a guy who had a lot to lose, was charged under the same law as the Espionage Act.
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And these guys were doing it earlier during the Bush administration.
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Some of them were talking to the journalists that, you know, maybe it's alleged.
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But somebody somewhere was informing this reporting, right, that got into the New York Times about the Bush-era warrantless wiretapping program.
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And eventually, journalists put this out there.
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But, yeah, then there's the person in the YouTube comments who was like, oh, we knew all about this.
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And the thing is, you can know about some programs and not know about others.
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You can know with a certainty that this stuff is capable or is possible.
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You can know that the government has done this stuff in the past.
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You can have, like, the Juul versus NSA case that's run by the EFF, which is about AT&T setting up secret rooms in their telecommunications facilities where they basically drag all the fibers for their domestic Internet communications and, like, phone communications into a room that's purpose-built for the NSA.
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The NSA denies that these things happen or that are done at all.
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Maybe you're just somebody who reads all the reporting and you actually know.
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You can't prove it, but you know this is going on.
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The distance between what you know and what you can prove to everybody else in the country is everything in our model of government.
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And the only way we can all know it is if somebody can prove it.
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And if you don't have the evidence, you can't prove it.
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And, of course, when we talk about the earlier stuff, right, like a more corporatized media, they've got a thousand incentives not to get involved in this stuff.
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They need these officials to sit down with them and give interviews, right?
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They need to be, you know, admitted to briefers.
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And yet, rather, and so, the only way to make sure people understand this broadly is if we all work together, right?
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If we collectively can establish a corpus of evidence, right, a body of facts that is so large and so persuasive, it overcomes the natural and understandable resistance of these more corporatized media groups.
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It overcomes the political and partisan sort of loyalties that all of these political factions in the country do where they go, you know, it's my president.
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Even if I don't like this stuff, even if I don't agree with this stuff, I don't want to say it exists.
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I want to deny it until it's proved, you know, in HD, on video, you know, signing the order to do this, that, or the other.
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Because otherwise, there's a chance my guy might not get reelected.
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And that's the only way this kind of stuff can happen.
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And the sad fact is the opportunities that we have to prove this, like the moments in history where we do prove something, anything, beyond a reasonable doubt, are so few and so rare that they almost always only come from whistleblowers.
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And I think that's one of the problems that we have, particularly in the climate movement today.
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Did you take any comfort from knowing that Obama, when he was running for office and in his Hope and Change website, he had provisions to protect whistleblowers and provisions to reward people, right?
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I mean, I think we covered enough of it on there anyway.
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It just says, like, stream suspended or whatever?
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Because Rogan's probably signed with Spotify, so they might have it.
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But, I mean, the point is, is, the point, guys, is, from there, I think the takeaway is
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Anyway, what he's saying is that for him to prove that, you know, this is some actual shit
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going on, et cetera, that, yo, you are being spied on, et cetera.
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He has to, he had to expose it the way he did with the whistleblower way, because, you know,
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when you go to the whistleblower route, guys, are they going to expose it all the time?
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And for you to expose it at the level that he wanted to expose it at, you pretty much
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got to violate the law, which is why he planned all this in advance, where he was going to
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He was going to put out the full capability out there.
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There was another guy, um, type in Drake, NSA whistleblower on Google real quick, because
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this guy did it too, and I think he ended up getting the charges dropped.
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Guys, something interesting, I don't know why the link to Rumble says, Fatsplains the
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People are in the right video, though, so it's fine.
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But, um, we got 5,500 of y'all in here on Rumble, man.
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Uh, you guys could be anywhere else, but you guys are here with us on a Sunday night,
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And the video's gonna come back on YouTube, as well.
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If you guys are watching on YouTube, like the video.
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If you guys are watching on Rumble, um, either or.
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If you are watching on Rumble, though, guys, open up a tab.
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Like it on YouTube, as well, so that we can hit the, I'll go on YouTube.
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Um, so, going back to the Wikipedia here from Thomas Drake, he goes,
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Thomas Drake, uh, born 1957, is a former senior executive of the NSA,
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decorated United States Air Force and, uh, United States Navy veteran,
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In 2010, the government alleged that Drake mishandled documents
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one of the few, uh, such espionage at KCUS histories.
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Drake's defenders claim that he was instead being persecuted
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He is a 2011 recipient of the Rittenhauer, um, where we, okay,
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for truth-telling and co-recipient of the Sam Adams Associates
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On June 9th, 2011, all 10 original charges against him were dropped.
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Drake, uh, rejected several deals because he refused to plea bargain
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Um, Jessalyn Raddick of the Government Accountability Project,
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who helped represent him, called it an act of civil disobedience.
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So, this is an example of a whistleblower that was able to beat it, right?
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But, um, but again, he was charged, and people weren't sure if you, you know,
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if he was going to be able to beat it, et cetera.
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So, it sent the intelligence community, obviously, uh, very concerned.
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By 2003, NSA Inspector General declared Trailblazer an expensive failure.
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Drake felt the NSA was committing serious crimes against the American people
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on a level worse than what President Nixon had done in the 1970s.
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Drake reviewed the laws regarding disclosure of information
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and decided that if he revealed unclassified information to a reporter,
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then the worst thing that would happen to him was probably he would be fired.
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In November 2005, Drake contacted the CO Ben Gorman of the Baltimore Sun newspaper,
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sending her emails through Hushmail and discussing various topics.
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He claims that he was very careful not to give her sensitive or classified information.
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It was one of the basic ground rules he set out at the beginning of the communication.
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Uh, Gorman wrote several articles about waste, fraud, and abuse at the NSA,
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She received an award from the Society of Professional Journalists
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and her series Exposing Government and Wrongdoing.
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George Richard Bennett, uh, later ruled that there is no evidence that reporter, uh,
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A, relied upon any allegedly classified information found in Mr. Drake's house in her articles.
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So basically, guys, he was able to kind of get away by, like,
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But again, you know, they're able to bring charges against you
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because, um, certain stuff doesn't have to necessarily be classified, guys.
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So, um, when you're talking about national defense information, right,
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like, um, for example, like Trump right now, right?
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If you guys watched the episode that I did with, um, with Trump
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and how he got charged with the, um, with the classified information.
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It doesn't matter if he declassified the stuff.
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And the reason why it doesn't matter is because they're going to,
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if it's military stuff, they're going to consider it
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So, um, and that's probably how they're able to get this guy
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Did you want to, oh yeah, because the Rogan thing hit us.
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It's only 27 minutes and I think it's really good.
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the agent takes his position on a chair opposite...
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With the weight of their impending conversation.
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teetered on the brink of a revelation from Edward Snowden
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the debate over whether he is a friend or foe to America
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Edward Joseph Snowden was born on the 21st of June 1983
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worked for the U.S. Coast Guard as a warrant officer
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as a clerk for the U.S. District Court of Maryland.
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Sparked by his father bringing home various gadgets from work,
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Snowden was captivated in particular by the new Commodore 64 personal computer
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Snowden would stay up past his bedtime watching his father use the computer
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and was eventually allowed to play games on it himself.
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spending countless hours playing games like Super Mario Brothers and Tekken.
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reveling in the anonymity the first decade of the World Wide Web provided.
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creating multiple personas and hiding his true age.
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the Snowden family relocated to Fort Meade in Maryland.
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Edward told of how he went from being popular among his classmates
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to being relentlessly mocked and teased at his new school in Maryland.
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By his own admission, young Edward was not a good student,
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staying up late every night playing computer games and browsing the internet.
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Snowden spent his time at school daydreaming about hacking and sleeping through his classes.
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He developed a keen interest in Japanese art and culture, including anime.
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Glandular fever caused Snowden a prolonged absence from high school
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and ultimately caused him to drop out during his sophomore year.
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Snowden later enrolled in community college and claimed to have passed the GED exams,
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but later investigations by the US authorities could find no evidence that he actually did this.
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it was that he wanted to pursue a career in computers and the internet.
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Snowden decided to take a Microsoft certification course.
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for the owner of a small business that he met in his Japanese classes.
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Then, on September 11, 2001, the world changed forever.
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The terrorist attacks on US soil had a profound impact
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The attacks prompted a legislative response in the form of the USA Patriot Act.
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If you guys want the full take on 9-11, watch it on our Rumble.
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...act expanded the surveillance powers of the US government
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in an effort to thwart future terrorist attacks.
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Snowden's parents divorced that same year in 2001,
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which led to him living with his mother in Ellicott City, Maryland.
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the horrific events of that infamous September day
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continued to stir in Snowden a sense of patriotism
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and a desire to serve his country in the war on terrorism.
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He thus enlisted in the United States Army in 2003
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just a few months after joining the X-18 training programme.
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Snowden needed to find another path to serve his country.
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where, you know, everyone worked for the government.
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Obviously got a deep sense of patriotism after 9-11,
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at the Center for the Advanced Study of Language
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where he worked as a systems engineer and administrator.
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A year later, Snowden converted from a contractor
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working from its headquarters in Langley, Virginia.
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including the decentralized online hacking community,
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and controlled by centralized governments and agencies.
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or Telecommunications Information Systems Officer.
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I'm currently in the School of Computer Science