Fed Explains Serial Killer Edmund Kemper aka The "Co-ed Killer"
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 54 minutes
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188.39905
Summary
In this episode of FedReacts, we cover Ed Kemper, a.k.a. The Coed Killer. This case has been one of the most requested cases by the community for a very long time and finally we cover it!
Transcript
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I'm a special agent with Homeland Security Investigations.
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Defender Jeffrey Williams and Associate YSL did commit the felony.
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One of the most prolific serial killers of all time.
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Zodiac Killer is a pseudonym of an unidentified serial killer who operated in Northern California.
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All these serial killers guys, they really get off on getting attention from the media.
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Many years, Jeffrey Epstein sexually exploited and abused dozens of minor girls at his home.
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It was O.J. working together to get Nicole killed.
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We're going to go over his past, the gang tie, so that this all makes sense.
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I'm here with Angie and Mo, a.k.a. Mo in the back.
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So, yeah, guys, this one has been requested for a very long time.
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You guys have been asking for this guy, Ed Kemper, a.k.a. the co-ed killer, for a few months now.
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But, yeah, before we get into it, Angie, you want to introduce yourself to the people and give some updates on what's going on?
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My name is actually Angelica, but, you know, I like Angie because you gringos can pronounce it well.
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I was the one who pushed this case because you guys keep asking for it, but it keeps losing on the polls.
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I personally study it, like, very well, like, deeply.
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I watch all the documentaries there is to watch about this guy.
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And I watch My Hunter 2, which is a quite interesting series on Netflix.
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And, yeah, I mean, there is to say this guy is insane.
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I'm sure you guys are going to love it because you are sickos and you like these kind of cases.
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I'll be active there, posting reels and polls and stuff.
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So, yeah, make sure you guys check us out there.
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I see you guys asking for my Instagram all the time.
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If you guys want to follow me, you guys can feel free.
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Don't follow Andrew, but you guys can follow me, right?
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Don't forget the memo to believe in Big Mo because that is M-O.
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So, guys, we're live on Rumble and on YouTube right now, as you guys know.
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We got demonetized on YouTube, which kind of sucks.
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But we are live right now on CastleClub.tv, guys.
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Mo, if you can get a chance and bring it up on screen for the people.
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Yeah, if you can bring it up on screen for the people when you get a chance.
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On there, we're going to be doing extended live streams.
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We're going to bring back the Zoom calls that we used to do back in the day on Patreon.
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We're going to bring those back on CastleClub.tv, which is basically locals.
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We're going to be doing videos where we answer Q&As like we used to back in the day.
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So, you guys are going to get a lot of content on there.
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And also, Fresh, since you guys know he doesn't really do vlogs anymore.
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So, what he's going to do is he's going to put his vlogs in the IRL streams that we do when we travel.
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So, if you guys want to see all the crazy stuff behind the scenes, check us out over there.
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Also, we do pre-shows with the girls where Icy interviews them and shows you guys the behind the scenes of setting up and everything else like that.
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So, CastleClub.tv, guys, is going to be the main place to be.
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And, yeah, man, we hope to see you guys in there.
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And, you know, guys, Mo's doing a million things at once.
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Bill's obviously the pro when it comes to Streamlabs.
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But, you know, I try to conserve him for the main show.
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You just put in the promo code CASTLE at checkout.
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It's only $100, and you get it for the year, man.
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And you're going to get all the exclusive stuff behind the scenes because, like I said before, YouTube demonetized us.
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So, we're going to give y'all some more exclusive content over there, man.
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Especially since they censor the crap out of us nowadays, you know.
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Certain guests and certain interviews, we can't put them on YouTube anymore.
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I mean, we did an interview with Jackson Hinkle.
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So, if you guys want exclusive content like that, man, check it out over there at CastleClub.tv.
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You guys, make sure to also follow us on Rumble.
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We also, we have, finally, Fed Reacts on Rumble.
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Because, as you guys know, long-time watchers of Fed Reacts, you guys know that a lot of
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the time, crime scene photos, we can't show you guys.
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We just have to give you, like, links a lot of the times.
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But, now that we're on Rumble, we can go ahead and show you guys those crime scene photos.
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So, we'll probably go ahead and show you guys some of them on this one.
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And Angie will pull them up, because, for some odd reason, she's really good at finding
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We're going to have those photos over on the Rumble side, guys.
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But, we want to stay up on YouTube as long as possible.
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Because, we know that a lot of you guys might not find the channel any other way.
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You know, at the end of the day, the show goes on and, uh...
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Man, you about to get to chat seasick up in this.
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I thought it was supposed to be long and straight like Jesus.
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I thought I was supposed to have that straight,
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It's supposed to go long and down like Angie's hair.
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I'm going to change my name from Myron to Byron.
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that don't want to acknowledge me as a part of the team.
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Man, where are you guys at now for all you guys?
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Okay, and all natural, too, guys, no product in this.
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Like, literally just brushing like a wild man the past few weeks.
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I know some of y'all know what I'm talking about.
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I know some people in the chat are going to know what this is.
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And you put that joint like this, and then you put it in your hair.
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I know in the chat they know what I'm talking about, man.
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I'm just doing the, you know, the rumble, just screening the rumble chat.
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Like, it came in an orange or red can back when I got it.
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It's like, kind of like a small, it's like a small circle can.
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When I got my ways back in, like, 07, 08, I used Dax back then, man.
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I mean, I could do a video for you guys on how to get waves.
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Yeah, you guys, you gotta appreciate Myron's effort for these waves, because I did buy him
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like a texturizer, and he doesn't want to use it.
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I was like, no, Angie, I appreciate you buying me this, but I'm not using it, goddammit.
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We're supposed to be talking about serial killers, not hair.
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Anyway, guys, welcome to the least professional true crime channel on YouTube, but the best
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We're gonna be talking about Ed Kemper today, so let's go ahead and pull up, oh, yeah, let's
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You should have said it just like a radio host.
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Well, somebody that doesn't have waves too much, Ed Kemper, you guys.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he doesn't have spinning waves, but he was spinning on the
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Edmund Emil Kemper III, born December 18, 1940, is an American serial killer who murdered eight
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people, including a 15-year-old girl, his own mother, and her best friend from May 1972
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Years earlier, at the age of 15, Kemper had murdered his paternal grandparents.
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Kemper was nicknamed the co-ed killer, as most of his non-familial victims were female
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college students hitchhiking in the vicinity of Santa Cruz County, California.
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Kemper requested a death penalty for his crimes.
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Capital punishment was suspended in California at the time, and he instead received eight
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Since then, he has been incarcerated at the California Medical Facility in Vacanville.
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Yeah, born 1948, 74 years old, and he's in Burbank, California.
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So, one of the few serial killers that's still alive.
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And just so you guys know, what did I tell you about the 1970s?
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They were going crazy in the 70s, man, with these serial killers, man.
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He will be able to ask for parole next year, 2024.
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Again, because he's been applying for parole a few times now, and he's been denied, of
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How many times has he tried this point at this point?
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I think three or four times, pretty much, because, yeah, he got incarcerated in the 75,
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I think it was, 73, I can't remember, and he's tried a million times until now.
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Well, he's, they let out, what's that chick's name?
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I forget her name, but she was a part of the Charles Manson crew that killed people violently,
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I saw a comment very interesting, because this guy has an IQ of 136, which is way above average.
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Double the IQ of some of the girls that come on this podcast.
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Like, I failed algebra my freshman year of high school, but again, I was, like, not trying
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I mean, I don't- I genuinely don't think I'm, like, the smartest guy.
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The person with the highest IQ in the world is somebody from, I think it's Missouri, and
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So, yeah, it was like 118, 120, somewhere around there last time I took it.
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Okay, so we got a documentary that we're gonna play.
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We got about 800, 900 y'all over on Rumble, and then we got another 700 plus y'all on YouTube.
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Whatever you got- however you guys want to watch us, you know, whether you want to watch
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us on YouTube, you want to watch us on Rumble, it's cool.
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And for you guys that are watching on Rumble, can you guys do me a huge favor?
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Like, it means a lot to me if you guys could do that.
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Because when you split the audience, guys, a little YouTube trick for you guys that want
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Anytime you split the audience, it kind of sucks, because what ends up happening is like
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YouTube doesn't recommend the stream as hard when you have less viewers.
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So the more viewers you have on YouTube, that's why we killed the streams on the other ones.
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The more viewers you have, the more it pushes you into YouTube outgo to be discovered.
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So, you know, you kind of split the audience when you're on Rumble and on YouTube at the
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And yeah, so we got a documentary that we're going to react to.
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It's only about 37 minutes, so you guys won't have to bear my bad jokes for that long
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I think Angie will go ahead and have an interview for you guys queued up as well that we can play.
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But this one is titled, When Police Realize Their Friend is a Serial Killer.
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You know, let's like and subscribe to this channel.
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Because it ain't easy making this type of content.
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So we're going to react to it, give him some, show him some love, support.
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So let's go ahead and enlarge that mode and get cracking on this.
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And police are frustrated as a killer is murdering female college students and completely evading their detection.
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Meanwhile, one man, who would normally stand out in a crowd of thousands, is flying under the radar, completely undetected.
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And then, I wonder what was going on in 1972 at the time.
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At six feet, nine inches, and 285 pounds, Ed Kemper is impossible to miss.
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I don't know if y'all have ever met somebody that's six foot nine, but that's literally, like, the towers over everyone.
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So, fun fact, this guy reached the six foot three, which is Myron's height, height, height, right?
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Height, yeah, height, when he was 15 years old.
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Yeah, and he reached the six foot nine when he was 21, which is insane.
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Like, you guys, it's literally Myron, but, like, with another person.
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Yeah, and as a kid, that's actually what made him very awkward was his height.
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So, all right, let's keep running, and then we'll hit the Rumble Rants and Chats after, as well.
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Oh, by the way, I forgot to mention this, guys.
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If you want to go ahead and donate to the show, fnfsuperchat.com, and you can go ahead and donate to the show, and it ends up being on the show.
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That's how you Super Chat on the show, or Rumble Rant, either or, whichever one you prefer.
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And let's make sure that we put that on the website, Mo.
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So, yeah, if you guys want to go ahead and get involved in the show and have your chat shown,
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So, Frank, November Frank, again, superchat.com.
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So, in 1972, the president of the United States was Richard Nixon.
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He made, the president, Richard Nixon, made the development of a space shuttle program.
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In January, in February, the Mariner 9 sends pictures from Mars.
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Well, there is, they're going to say something in the documentary, I think.
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And he, how do you call it when you like, somebody does something to you and you like,
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It was a leap year and it also included two leap seconds.
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What do you call it when somebody, when you get run over and you have to take legal action
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He sued the person and he sued them and he got reimbursed for like $50,000, $15,000.
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So, obviously, the beginning of the Watergate controversy with Richard Nixon.
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We had the Munich Olympics massacre on September 5th, 1972, which all I'm going to say is some
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The Pioneer 10 spacecraft was launched into space on March 3rd, 1972.
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The Equal Rights Amendment passes in the U.S. Congress on March 22nd, 1972.
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President Nixon announced this further withdrawal of American troops from Vietnam.
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There was a movie made about his case called Henry.
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The Bloody Sunday incident in Northern Ireland on January 30th.
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And then the Strategic Arm Limitations talk, Salt Agreement is signed.
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Somebody asked me to look up the biggest music single in 1972.
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The first time ever I saw your face by Roberto Flack.
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The first time ever I saw your face by Roberto Flack.
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The number two was Alone Again Naturally by Gilbert O'Sullivan.
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The number two was American Pie by Doug McLean.
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They don't know any American songs from back then.
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Well, the number four was Without You by Harry Nilsson.
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And my mom was alive in the 70s, so I have no idea.
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Their parents was also in, like, Sudan, so I don't.
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None of our parents were even in America on some of these songs.
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Well, my mom was very, like, big in the American culture, so she loved the Beatles.
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I was more into, like, than, I mean, because I grew up.
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Me, I had listened to a lot of, like, Marv Gay Luther Vandross.
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And there's a bunch of reasons why, which you guys will see one day once we get out of
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If you guys will understand this context right now, you will flip it.
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I wish I could do it right now for y'all, but we will get canceled instantly if I do
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That song came out in 1972, Stuck in the Middle with You.
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Famous song from a very famous scene from the movie Reservoir Dogs.
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I know some of y'all ninjas know what I'm talking about.
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Police officers at a bar near the courthouse, getting as much inside information on the
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With his near-genius level IQ, he's gaming the entire trade.
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Casual relationships, but I was poking around a little bit trying to find some things out.
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I knew they wouldn't be privy to hot information, but there were some things that were bothering
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me, like were there any speculations on how they were dying?
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How did you get the knowledge to outsmart the police?
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Got some tremendous insights into it, not just the gimmicks, the actual things, the tidbits
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that you would pick up from their procedures, but the mechanics behind that, the logic behind
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it, was I would not allow myself to walk into even a potential trap of behavior.
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So you guys are going to see a trend here with Kemper.
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The guy was very smart, and what he would do is he would align himself with law enforcement
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Um, and give himself an advantage and give himself a kind of insight as to how they do
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He would, you know, talk, pry some information out here and there, befriend them.
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And, um, and he was very, you know, very nice and cordial with these individuals, even
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He was very social and cordial with the police officers and the law enforcement in general.
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And you can see the guy's well-spoken, kind of fairly disarming, right?
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Um, doesn't look like he's going to be like, you know, a harmful killer.
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Um, and then also, uh, he gave a lot of interviews, uh, after he was caught and, um, he went into
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detail about how he was able to kind of get away with things, which gave, um, the FBI a
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lot of insights to how to identify serial killers.
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About those crimes too much to people, initiating conversations about that.
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There was a memorial service for two of the victims.
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But I'd, uh, seen one too many episodes of one too many crime shows where that is one
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Welcome back to Crime A to Z, where we detail cases and criminals from the very beginning
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Today, we'll be talking about one of the most gruesome serial killer cases in American
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With an IQ at near genius level, serial killer, Ed Kemper was able to outsmart police and,
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His unassuming personality would be so enchanting that even a call into police to confess his
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murders would lead to them sending him away in disbelief.
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Santa Cruz, California was traditionally a quiet beach town complete with surfers and
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retirees, at least until 1965, the year the University of Santa Cruz was built.
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With residents suddenly spilling over from relatively nearby San Francisco, the college
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turned the town from a peaceful, quiet retirement community into more of a bustling, youthful,
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loose and free-spirited city, similar to its hippie, Berkeley, California counterpart.
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Suddenly, girls began to go missing and body parts began to wash ashore.
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Someone was killing young female or co-ed, hitchhikers, and the community wondered whether
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the fairly recent change in its residential makeup was to blame.
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Real quick, back in that era, like in 1970s, the early 1970s, there were two other serial killers
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So very often, they will confuse the victims from one another.
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And that also made by the press, they made the Santa Cruz, they named Santa Cruz the murder
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Yeah, they would go crazy out there back then, man.
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I quickly dubbed the elusive killer, the co-ed butcher.
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On December 18th, 1948, Edmund Emil Kemper III was born in Bourbon, California, the two
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very disciplinarian parents, Cornell Kemper and Edmund Kemper II.
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While Kemper looked up to his father, he resented his harshly punitive and verbally abusive
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His parents would divorce when the younger Ed was nine years old.
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After which, Cornell moved away with Ed and his two sisters.
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Another person that was born December 18th as well that was a notorious alleged serial killer
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He was the prime suspect to be the Zodiac killer.
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So, and that birthday actually is how they ended up like pointing to him as being one
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So, I did an episode on the Zodiac killer, by the way, guys, if you guys want to go in
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But yeah, Arthur Lee Allen was actually identified by one of the individuals that the Zodiac killer
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So, yeah, he was identified, but he ended up dying in 1992 before they could positively
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tie him to the crimes and interview him rightfully.
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And showing classic signs of serial killer pathology, including torturing insects and
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animals and performing rituals with his sister's dolls, which resulted in severing their heads
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He remembered how, as a small boy, he used to slip out of his house, go to his second
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grade teacher's house, and armed with his father's bayonet, observe her through the
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In later interviews, he admitted that gas chamber and electric chair were some of his favorite
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At age 10, Kemper buried a pet cat alive, dug it up, severed its head, and placed it on
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Kemper admitted in a later interview that he enjoyed lying to his family about murdering
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And a few years later, when he was 13, he murdered another family cat because he thought
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He preserved separated parts of the cat's remains in his closet until his mother discovered
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I wrote, like, each fact here on my notebook, and I wrote it with, like, red flags.
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Because when you have a kid, 10 years old, 10 years old, burying a cat alive, and then
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beheaded, taking out the head and the stuff, that's insane.
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Like, we have, as a psychologist, we'll have, like, a field day with this kid.
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And then doing it again at 13 years old, another red flag.
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And also, a lot of serial killers actually did this.
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He didn't necessarily kill the animals, but Jeffrey Dahmer liked to, like, he would find
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the roadkill, and he would play with the organs and, like, kind of learn the anatomy.
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I don't know if John Wayne Gacy killed animals.
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Yeah, because that's a trait that a lot of serial killers tend to have, like, playing
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with, like, dead animals or, like, killing animals.
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Dahmer was the most famous that used to do it as well.
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But, yes, this is common amongst a lot of serial killers where you see this proclivity
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I mean, cats suck, yeah, but, like, goddamn, bro, you don't got to do all that.
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Yeah, for any of you guys out there, your kid is out here killing animals.
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Yeah, bro, you might want to make sure you ain't raising the second Ted Bundy.
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Negatively, punish that bad behavior immediately.
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You need to turn into Frank Castle with that kid.
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Well, hey, man, I'm a proponent of beating children when they do bad things, of course.
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You know, I got hit as a kid and I turned out okay.
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Like, I genuinely do think that kids should be spanked when they do stupid things.
00:36:49.560
When they mess up, you give them that quick slap.
00:36:56.020
Or if they really mess up, you give them the...
00:37:02.600
...teased him about why he would not try to kiss his teacher.
00:37:05.540
He responded, if I kiss her, I have to kill her first.
00:37:14.340
...kempere grew bigger and stronger, which was not surprising given that his mother was six feet
00:37:20.820
But Kemper's bizarre behavior also grew and became more concerning.
00:37:24.220
As a result, his mother used to lock him in the basement for the night out of fear that
00:37:29.520
Kemper was locked underground in complete darkness with a trap door on the floor covered
00:37:32.800
by the kitchen table to ensure he could not escape.
00:37:38.020
And it was those nights in the darkness where he allowed his hatred of women to fester
00:37:43.600
When Kemper was 14, he ran away from home to reconcile with his father.
00:37:48.720
We would have taught him how to channel that misogony.
00:37:52.640
He really, he really hate women, but it was mostly because of his mother.
00:37:57.320
Because of the abuse that his mother would put him in.
00:37:58.920
Yeah, his mom, his mom did some fucked up shit.
00:38:05.300
...learned that his father had remarried and had a stepson.
00:38:08.040
Kemper stayed with his father for a short while, but within a few months, his father
00:38:10.660
sent him away to live with his paternal grandparents in North Fork, California.
00:38:19.140
He described his grandfather as senile and said that his grandmother constantly emasculated
00:38:25.680
At age 15, after he'd been living with his grandparents...
00:38:28.120
See, so, again, people say all the time, oh, Fresh and Fit, you guys, like, teach guys
00:38:35.120
What I always say is, actually, if anything, we teach guys how to understand women so they
00:38:42.080
Like, when you see BS happening, like your grandma or a female family member emasculating
00:38:46.400
a male in your family, you just know, okay, this is female nature.
00:38:50.040
Maybe I can give my uncle or dad the rational male or teach them, hey, this is how women
00:38:56.000
Like, I think a lot of the times when guys end up having frustrations or anger or resentment
00:39:01.540
towards women, it comes from an inability to understand them.
00:39:04.760
And they don't understand that men and women are very different, and they try to look at
00:39:10.020
And I think that's the worst thing you can do, because if you look at women from a male
00:39:14.420
You're going to be very angry, because women interpret the world much differently than we
00:39:17.960
And I think a lot of that frustration comes out sometimes through violence, unfortunately,
00:39:23.380
I don't want to sit here and say, Fresh and Fit is preventing serial killers, but I genuinely
00:39:27.100
do think that we teach guys to, number one, understand women, and number two, not hate
00:39:33.000
women for what they're never going to be to you, okay?
00:39:36.680
And then most importantly, we tell you guys on the pod all the time, never raise your hand
00:39:45.700
What happened with these men most of the time, it's mainly because of their mothers trying
00:39:54.160
to put some certain abuse on them because of what is going on with their fathers or with
00:40:01.360
Because here I have here, the father of Edmund Kemper used to hate his mother because she
00:40:07.800
would abuse him to like call him names and stuff.
00:40:13.400
It was, in fact, he will say that it was like a loveless marriage because they wouldn't
00:40:19.300
So, he will say this, his dad was a World War II veteran.
00:40:23.640
So, he will say that living with Cornell, which was Edmund Kemper's mother, it was like,
00:40:28.740
he said, suicide missions in wartime and the atomic bomb testings were nothing compared
00:40:34.800
So, you can imagine that this man had nothing but like hater or, you know, like a bad relationship
00:40:45.660
So, she will, I don't know how to say, she will put this hater towards Edmund because
00:40:52.740
he only, she only had two daughters and one kid.
00:40:56.160
And the kid, the guy, the boy, will usually, in families, they tend to look more like their
00:41:05.880
So, of course, he will put like this hater towards his son.
00:41:11.580
And that's what, that's what happens often with kids that are only childs and stuff.
00:41:17.040
All right, let's, let's hit some of these, uh, rumble rants from the ninjas.
00:41:21.700
Uh, Mo has cleaned out the ones where you guys said some crazy stuff.
00:41:32.940
Uh, so, Myron, as a fellow waiver, please incorporate some cold pressed oils for your hair while you
00:41:41.640
I'm trying to keep it as natural as possible, man.
00:41:43.280
I hate putting oil in my hair, um, but I will keep that in mind.
00:41:50.880
Johnny Silverhand goes, which one of y'all discord gang gang is an artist?
00:41:54.700
Make that famous tsunami Japanese, uh, painting, but with Myron's hair.
00:42:00.580
Um, Johnny Silverhand, again, I use my computational multi-model threading and encryption from
00:42:12.080
World's coolest nerd, Big Mo, you watch AEW 2 and thoughts of CM Punk getting fired.
00:42:16.920
Also, I started watching Mindhunter 2, but it starts showing more of the interviews later
00:42:26.700
Um, well, I haven't been watching AEW because it's normally a, uh, fresh of its dream going
00:42:31.860
on, but I'm always keeping up with the community.
00:42:34.420
Um, as for the CM Punk getting fired, um, my thing is I say if...
00:42:47.160
Um, because of the fight, but I still say one, um, if you can't get along, everyone's wrong.
00:42:52.740
Two, uh, Jungle Boy kind of, I think Jungle Boy was a little more in a wrong here because
00:42:58.240
of, um, we're supposed to be in a climate of safety for the talent.
00:43:02.520
So, um, CM Punk is actually one of my, um, you know, favorite wrestlers of all time.
00:43:11.200
Um, at least the B-I-T-W part of my name, uh, so CM Punk is, so it's, uh, it's...
00:43:20.960
He left WWE around 2014, but he was still wrestling in the competition, the competitor
00:43:30.720
Um, and so where's the, the question about Mindhunter, they do start showing the interviews later
00:43:35.840
on, and I'm quite shocked, seeing, um, interviews about Ed Kemper, I'm quite shocked of how accurate
00:43:41.360
it is with the character that they play in the series.
00:43:48.440
Uh, PJ goes, Marin, what do you think about the idea of making Locals an easy-to-use app?
00:44:02.740
Um, and that's where I, you know, shout out to, uh, Local and Locals and Rumble, Rumble.
00:44:13.260
Um, and then we got Villa goes, keen for this one tonight.
00:44:20.560
Uh, we got SteadDurin88 goes, can you do a video on what family is like as a fed, uh,
00:44:26.020
such as which agency is best for marriage and what agency would keep you single?
00:44:32.400
Uh, yo, SteadDurin, I'll do it easy for you right now.
00:44:35.800
Uh, the agency that has the highest divorce rates by far is the Secret Service.
00:44:39.740
By far, they are, they have the highest divorce rates.
00:44:41.780
So if you want to go ahead and stay in a happy marriage, um, the Secret Service is not it.
00:44:46.900
Um, the agencies that have the best like work-life balance are the FBI and Homeland Security Investigations,
00:44:53.340
Um, also IRS because it's a more of a nine to five gig.
00:44:57.720
Um, the thing about IRS, HSI, FBI, et cetera, depending on the group that you're in, you can
00:45:02.840
be in one of those groups that are like slower.
00:45:04.280
You can be in like a financial group that does a nine to five, et cetera.
00:45:07.320
But if you're like in a drug group or a gang group or something like that, yeah, you're
00:45:10.040
going to be out all night, uh, all hours of night, but you can absolutely get a work-life
00:45:14.100
balance if you work in a more slower administrative or a group that does more, uh, you know, complex
00:45:21.800
So yeah, those are some agencies that will help you with work-life balance.
00:45:25.260
And then a lot of the OIGs, those are nine to fives too, uh, OIG agencies, because those
00:45:31.660
Do you think it may be because of the stress and the busyness of secret service?
00:45:37.300
And you're, and you're, and you can get called anytime, especially if you're on a presidential
00:45:43.260
They're one of the few fed agents, uh, special agent positions actually that get a lot of
00:45:47.780
Them and diplomatic security service are two agencies that will probably hurt your marriage.
00:45:52.880
If you're married, you're going to be gone all the time.
00:46:07.420
Also, I was wondering, mind if you could rebuild the bridge between sneaker and Zerka, that
00:46:14.220
Uh, Padawan goes, my brother was six, three in sixth grade and he's now 34 and six 11.
00:46:19.420
A lot of people don't faze me because I had to live with my brother until he left for
00:46:29.820
Johnny goes, dude, it was MKUltra, a precursor to today's, uh, Sandvistans that turned you
00:46:34.780
into a cyber cycle that we have here in the year of 2077 PS I'm rats from the future.
00:46:44.360
Um, it's a, from the video game, cyberpunk 2077, uh, that he's referencing.
00:46:50.420
Um, basically, uh, cyber cycles are basically like, uh, people who have got powers, but it
00:46:57.680
overtook them and it, and it just goes haywire.
00:47:06.140
Sandvistans, you know, he's killing people while like stopping time because he's so fast.
00:47:10.640
He stops time while killing people at the same time.
00:47:20.860
Adam goes, uh, look into the Kenyan Cartel Regency Hotel shooting Dublin.
00:47:30.540
Guys, you raise your value and go buy and then read why women deserve less.
00:47:38.040
Uh, Michaka goes, here's a list of Myron was on a TV show.
00:47:41.880
Fifty Shades Darker left a family guy occurred to Carolee Camel.
00:47:56.180
My haters can no longer say that I'm not one of them.
00:48:00.240
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00:48:09.420
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00:48:31.220
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00:48:59.440
Then, when his grandfather returned from shopping for groceries, Kempert went outside and shot
00:49:03.180
him in the driveway next to his car, killing him.
00:49:15.000
He killed his grandfather, so he won't see his grandmother.
00:49:20.780
So, yeah, he was kind of collateral damage there.
00:49:25.660
Called his mother, who told him to contact the local police and turn himself in.
00:49:28.880
After being apprehended, Kemper simply said that he wanted to experience what it felt
00:49:38.300
Kemper later testified that he killed his grandfather to prevent him from suffering once he find out
00:49:44.120
Following the murders, court psychiatrists briefly diagnosed Kemper with paranoid schizophrenia.
00:49:48.860
As a result, he was committed to a Tascadero state hospital.
00:49:51.080
That was sweet of him, you know, so you didn't want his grandfather to...
00:49:56.040
Hospital, an all-male maximum security facility that houses mentally ill convicts.
00:50:00.900
With a population of over 1,600 patients, several dozen who had committed murder, and
00:50:04.900
800 mentally disordered sex offenders, it was more than the 10-person team of psychiatrists
00:50:09.960
And ultimately, and tragically, the institutionalization of Kemper at the facility ended up exposing him
00:50:14.960
to extreme deviant behavior and making him far more dangerous than he was before he
00:50:30.800
Ended up exposing him to extreme deviant behavior and making him far more dangerous than he
00:50:39.560
I found myself a minor in a psychiatric hospital for hardened criminals.
00:50:44.340
According to the law, I should have been sent to an institution with minimal security.
00:50:47.480
But the judge was so outraged by my crimes that he declared,
00:50:50.940
I'm not wanting to send this young man to Disneyland.
00:50:53.220
That's why I ended up in a Tascadero with people on average 20 years older than me.
00:51:00.480
And Kemper would do more than just grow up at a Tascadero.
00:51:05.480
His IQ clocked in at a mere genius level somewhere between 136 and 145,
00:51:12.100
And he was also incredibly friendly and extremely likable.
00:51:15.480
All of these aspects resulted in him becoming a trusted assistant to the psychology staff
00:51:19.080
with access to the detailed files of murderers and sex offenders,
00:51:22.620
including detailed accounts of how they carried out their crimes.
00:51:29.540
And this is how he was able to kind of get away with things or knew what was happening at the time.
00:51:37.280
So you can see that he's already kind of playing this role where,
00:51:41.460
I know I'm a criminal and stuff, but I'm not as bad as the rest of these guys.
00:51:47.420
And then you guys got to remember also that they were severely understaffed.
00:51:50.560
So any help that they could get was widely appreciated.
00:51:54.020
He was trained to administrate the test, psychological test for the sexual offenders.
00:52:04.540
You guys are going to see here in a second, actually, how he would beat the test.
00:52:08.960
And the tactics they used to get away with them.
00:52:13.440
In his role, the then 15-year-old Kemper would hear firsthand highly graphic details of violent
00:52:18.420
rapists, and he began to have his own violent sexual fantasies.
00:52:22.060
And he also noted how most of the rapists have been caught because they were identified
00:52:26.120
So he concluded that his best chance of being successful as an assailant was to make sure
00:52:30.620
Also, since he had access to psychological tests, he knew exactly what psychologists were
00:52:40.920
He had actually memorized the exact responses to 28 separate assessments.
00:52:45.320
So he knew what to say to not come off as crazy.
00:52:54.500
While Kemper was originally diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia upon admission, psychiatrists
00:52:58.560
and social workers at Atascadero re-diagnosed him with a personality trait disturbance.
00:53:03.120
Then, after five years at Atascadero, the now gigantic, 6-foot-9-inch, 285-pound Kemper
00:53:08.900
was granted parole and released from the psychiatric facility on December 18, 1969, which was his
00:53:16.580
He was released to a halfway house along with a recommendation from the hospital that Kemper
00:53:20.020
not be allowed to return to his mother as it could trigger more violence.
00:53:23.560
But once he was released, there was little to no oversight or management.
00:53:26.300
And without any means of support or assistance, Kemper returned to live with his mother.
00:53:31.320
Once he was staying with his mother again, Kemper's relationship with her became even
00:53:35.640
The two often had arguments, which the neighbors usually overheard.
00:53:40.300
My mother and I started on horrendous battles, just horrible battles, violent and vicious.
00:53:44.720
I've never been in such a vicious verbal battle with anyone.
00:53:47.440
It would go to fists for the man, but this was my mother.
00:53:50.880
Kemper relocated to Alameda to live with a friend after getting a job at the Division of
00:53:56.860
But that only gave him little relief from his mother, who still frequently called and
00:54:01.140
And since he often struggled with money, Kemper would end up having to return to his
00:54:06.820
Kemper would also be involved in two motorcycle accidents, one of which rendered his left arm
00:54:11.020
broken, for which he'd receive a $15,000 settlement and use it to purchase a yellow Ford
00:54:17.980
Um, and real quick, you said $15,000 back in 1970, uh, or no, was this 1969?
00:54:24.400
$15,000, uh, back in, in, I think this is 1969.
00:54:35.060
Um, and then also, oh, the other thing, I know you guys said that he had worked for like
00:54:40.060
Um, keep in mind guys that like, uh, you know, back then we know, I'll talk about this because
00:54:46.980
So I'll talk about, um, how he was able to get that job in other situations as well.
00:54:56.000
Back in the early seventies, hitchhiking was not uncommon among college students on the
00:55:00.360
And Kemper would pick up numerous young female hitchhikers over and over and over again, as
00:55:04.560
he fantasized what he could do to them and fine tune his strategies.
00:55:08.240
He delivered each of them safely to their destination.
00:55:10.060
Um, real quick guys, $15,000 in 1969 is the equivalent and purchasing power of about
00:55:21.480
So he basically got $125,000, let's just say $125,000 back then in today's dollars for
00:55:28.640
So yeah, he, he will pick up 150 hitchhikers before the first kilons.
00:55:38.160
He didn't, uh, he will like let them all, let them go peacefully.
00:55:43.420
And, uh, yeah, he was practicing and figuring out how to make them feel comfortable, conversations
00:55:48.080
And you guys are going to see here in a second why he did this and why he took this deliberate
00:55:51.040
route to spend that much time driving random chicks around.
00:55:56.420
It was 150 before he started killing, uh, cheese hikers.
00:56:08.800
Noting which of his actions was the most effective for gaining the women's trust.
00:56:13.140
Kemper would later discuss these practice runs, sharing that it all started because
00:56:18.800
My inability to communicate socially, sexually, I wasn't impotent, but emotionally I was impotent.
00:56:26.660
I was scared to death of failing in male-female relationships.
00:56:30.920
I knew absolutely nothing about that whole area.
00:56:32.540
Even if just sitting down and talking with young lady, I need to be able to really communicate
00:56:38.080
Man, if he had fresher fit, man, he probably wouldn't have been acting all crazy like this,
00:56:45.900
Ironically enough, that's why I began picking people up.
00:56:48.880
He performed his practice runs for more than a year fine-tuning his strategy until May 1972.
00:56:55.600
The early 1970s in Santa Cruz was already a terrifying time for residents.
00:57:02.540
And you guys also got to understand, too, that by him picking up the girls, right, that
00:57:06.680
are hitchhiking, it allows him to kind of break the barrier and interact with women and because
00:57:14.380
He's picking them up, so they're kind of forced to interact with them, so it's like him talking
00:57:19.700
So for him, since he has all the social anxiety, he can't approach them and talk to them, he
00:57:23.860
would pick them up because hitchhiking was a thing back then, and then they'd have a natural
00:57:28.340
conversation or whatever, and then he did this.
00:57:29.980
He had to do this for a year, and I didn't know he picked up that many girls, 150.
00:57:35.640
That's how much anxiety he had around women, that he had to do this for so long until he
00:57:42.720
Yeah, but he wouldn't pick up just any hitchhiker.
00:57:45.620
He would pick up girls, like young girls that he would feel attracted to, and they had to
00:57:52.300
No, because back then, there was like the hippie movement, and he hated hippie girls
00:57:57.960
because they smelled, they wouldn't shave, and so he wouldn't be just like any girl.
00:58:03.480
It would have to be like pretty girls, like middle class girls.
00:58:16.120
Odan Donate Sandbox, just showing appreciation to my boys in Angelica, while shows...
00:58:24.360
Oh, last shows have been great, both the Fed Reacts Daytime and Night Shows.
00:58:31.300
If you guys want to super chat into the show like that, FNFSuperChat.com.
00:58:39.380
...like murderer who killed a Santa Cruz family of five had just recently been convicted
00:58:44.400
And another serial killer, Herbert Mullen, was about to begin terrorizing the city just months
00:58:50.700
So between the three of them, the small California town was about to begin a streak of killings
00:58:54.160
that would help it earn the title of murder capital of a world.
00:59:01.040
I'm sorry, it's just that this guy just literally shaved his half of the head and just let the
00:59:20.780
I thought that was like Photoshop or something.
00:59:46.260
I thought he was losing hair from Dylan Owens winning.
00:59:51.360
I thought he was losing hair from Dylan Owens winning.
00:59:56.540
That would help it earn the title of murder capital of a world.
01:00:00.500
On May 7th, 1972, Ed Kemper would put his long-awaited plans into action.
01:00:05.600
Picking up Mary Ann Pesche and Anita Mary Luquesa, two 18-year-old Fresno State University students
01:00:12.760
He was supposed to be driving them from Berkeley to Stanford University.
01:00:16.260
But after an hour's drive, he arrived at a remote woodland location close to Alameda
01:00:26.260
Kemper then put both women's bodies in his Ford Galaxy's trunk and began driving back
01:00:30.560
And he was nearly caught when he was stopped on his way by a police officer for having
01:00:36.440
Kemper remained calm and polite and was just issued a warning.
01:00:39.860
But he later confessed that the stop excited him.
01:00:42.720
And had the police officer decided to check Kemper's trunk, Kemper said he would have instantly
01:00:48.620
Pesche's skull would later be discovered on Loma Prieta Mountain in August of that year.
01:00:53.060
Despite a thorough search, no more of Pesche's remains nor any signs of Luquesa were ever
01:00:57.280
Kemper would later comment on how his first murder was bumped.
01:01:03.920
He said that these two girls, they were friends.
01:01:08.840
And there was another girl, like a third girl that she didn't want to go with them because
01:01:16.640
So he said in an interview that if he will have the three of them, he probably wouldn't
01:01:22.560
have done like the killings because it will like they will outnumber him.
01:01:27.840
And one of them didn't want it to go in the car.
01:01:29.960
Like so the other one had to convince her to hitchhike with him because she didn't want
01:01:35.020
it to go in the car because she wouldn't hitchhike.
01:01:37.500
So it was one girl that I think it was like Anita Lucheska, the first girl that that was
01:01:42.680
that she was very used to hitchhike because she will do it like very often and she will
01:01:46.220
do it like in every country she will go to that she loved to hitchhike because back then
01:01:57.860
Funny because Ted Bundy used to pick up hitchhikers, too, and kill them.
01:02:01.700
So and it's wild because these guys, right, these like Ted Bundy and this guy, both charming,
01:02:08.040
you know, not ugly dudes, pause, especially Ted Bundy.
01:02:12.540
I remember when he went to his trial, girls were showing up there trying to like bang him.
01:02:18.860
He had a girlfriend and he had a girlfriend, mistress and wife.
01:02:24.900
Serial killer, killer chicks, bro, but still had gone getting gross.
01:02:31.560
Like, bro, I'm telling you, man, clout is the number one thing.
01:02:33.980
The Menendez brothers married when they were in prison.
01:02:50.500
Or, hey, man, I just want to say thank you for what you do.
01:03:03.680
Kemper would later comment on how his first murder was bumbling and how he should have been caught.
01:03:09.840
And when I tripped all over myself, that first two murders, the first 24 hours, there were three clear times I should have been busted.
01:03:16.160
And I wasn't, because three different individuals or three different groups of people got scared and minded their own business and looked the other way.
01:03:26.440
Kemper's next victim was Aikoku, a 15-year-old dance student who was hitchhiking to a dance class after she missed her bus.
01:03:40.420
If I'm not mistaken, this one's the chick, because there was one girl that...
01:03:47.420
He shot all these chicks, too, if I'm not mistaken.
01:03:49.880
Yeah, because the dumbass will try to strangle them by putting the...
01:03:55.160
Well, not strangle them, but like affixient them by putting the fingers up the nose.
01:04:02.220
And they wouldn't die because they were breathing through their...
01:04:21.500
Because I was thinking in my head, like, most serial killers strangle.
01:04:27.240
Like, you would strangle them, and then, like, they'd pass out, and then he'd let them come
01:04:36.320
Some of them, but then it was some, like, he was like...
01:04:39.240
And he's 6'9", like, bro, 280, what are you doing?
01:04:42.080
And then Samuel Little, the serial killer with the most kills, actually.
01:04:58.920
Should be in the NBA to get you out of her strangling bitches failing.
01:05:05.840
Bro, he worried about the wrong shooting, you know?
01:05:08.500
Yeah, he would definitely worry about the wrong shooting.
01:05:21.020
The two first girls that he killed, this guy was...
01:05:29.160
I think it was Pesce, Maria Pesce, that didn't even find the body.
01:05:32.580
He brushed one of the breasts with the back part of his hand while he was trying to handcuff her.
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He brushed the back of his hand with one of his breasts.
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He was like, I'm going to rape your body after you're dead.
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He has the most kills of all serial killer history.
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So I guess this guy, Ed Comper, tried and failed with a couple of them.
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But what is funny is that he tried to suffocate him by pushing his finger.
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And the girl was like breathing through her mouth.
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After Kemper murdered Koo, he was due before a panel of psychiatrists for a follow-up parole
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Kemper told them what he knew they wanted to hear, and the two doctors on the panel concluded
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that there was no reason to consider Kemper a threat to anyone.
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They congratulated each other on having rehabilitated a killer child, and both of them recommended
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that Kemper's juvenile record be expunged to give him a better shot at becoming a better
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You didn't rehabilitate anything, but they didn't know.
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And another thing, too, guys, when they say, oh, we're going to expunge a record, that's
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I mean, in today's day and age, because nowadays, when you get arrested, anytime you get arrested,
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you're going to get your fingerprints rolled into the system, and it's going to be put
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into the National Crime Information Center, or NCIC, right, or index, whatever it is.
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And they'll be able, and that generates an FBI number, and they'll always be able to pull
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They might not necessarily be able to go ahead and retrieve the records if you're a juvenile,
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Back then in the 70s, they didn't have a standardized interstate database to show all this stuff.
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Policing was not necessarily as sophisticated as it is now.
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That's why a lot of serial killers in the 70s, et cetera, were able to make things happen
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and go undetected, especially someone like Ted Bundy.
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Ted Bundy is a big reason why they need an interstate database to keep track of criminals,
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because he was killing women in like seven or eight different states.
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He was traveling all over the place because they didn't necessarily have the capability
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to connect all the law enforcement agencies together through the computer and the internet.
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Somebody said that Edmund Kemper is related to Mr. Retardo.
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For his record, but didn't have any grounds to fight it.
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Kemper delighted in both the secret charade as well as his ability to pull off such a feat,
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He drove away with a clean bill of health and a criminal record, white clean.
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Kemper would lay low for a while, reveling in and fantasizing about.
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An expungement back then probably would have carried more weight because they didn't have the interstate database.
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I think it was the first Asian girl that he killed.
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Yeah, there was one girl that he locked himself out of the car,
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And the girl let him in again, and that's when he grabbed the gun and killed her.
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This guy, well, this girl, this time, it's the girl.
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She could have shot him and ended him right there.
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And we wouldn't be reacting to this documentary right now.
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We would have been reacting to it for a different reason.
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Shout out to Angie with these little tidbit facts on the side.
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Well, to be fair, we were supposed to cover this guy a while ago,
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but something else always came up, or she would do a poll,
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I've been asking about this guy for a year at least.
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For the guys that ask, where do I come with this stuff?
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I've loved true crimes forever, and I've researched these guys ages ago.
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The Asian girl that failed, do you think maybe she was turned on by him still?
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Wait, she wasn't the one that he got locked in the car with, right?
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And I think it was because she was too scared, Mo.
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She was, like, in shock, because he had pointed the gun at her before.
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I'm going to put this here, and I'll be right back.
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What I think it was, because what happened is that he wanted to go on the other side
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He will put the victims in the trunk after he killed them.
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So I think he was trying to get her out of the car, and, you know, accidentally, he locked
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himself out when he was trying to get her, like, you know?
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And, guys, also, keep in mind, these are old cars.
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Like, if you lock yourself out of the car, there ain't no automatic buying.
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Oh, and then real quick, guys, we got 1,100 of y'all watching on YouTube.
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See, Angie, go ahead and even wrote it out for you guys on a notepad.
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He continued picking up hitchhikers, releasing them, and learning.
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But as the fighting with his mother continued and escalated, the strong urge to kill returned.
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And on January 7, 1973, Kemper, now living with his mother again, picked up 18...
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Let's pin on the top of the chat, by the way, FNFSuperChat.com.
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Guys, if you want to super chat into the show, FNFSuperChat.com.
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I know some of you guys have issues with rumble rants.
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Or if you're watching on YouTube and you want to be able to do a super chat into the show,
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A 15-year-old student, Cindy Schall, while driving around the Cabrillo College campus.
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By this point, police had connected the co-ed killings to each other.
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As a result, they increased the bus schedule and strongly warned the students against hitchhiking.
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Also, students had been warned to only accept rides from cars with university stickers.
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But since Kemper's mother worked at the college, he was able to get such a sticker himself.
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Then, one month later, February 5th, Kemper had another argument with his mother,
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after which he stormed out of his house in search of possible victims.
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On campus, he came across students Allison Liu, 20 years old, and Rosalind Thorpe, 23.
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Once they entered his car, he shot and killed them both.
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Kemper had no preference for how he murdered his victims,
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whether it be strangling, shooting, stabbing, or smothering.
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His only consistency was the treatment of their corpses,
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where his MO included necrophilia, rape, and other horrific violations.
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Kemper would later confess that performing such acts with his victims' corpses
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allowed him the ultimate control of his victims,
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and that he relished having the corpses, all to himself.
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He would freely discuss during later interviews what may have started...
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This is common, very common among serial killers, guys.
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That is what they want, is control of the victim.
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And also, the Green River Killer, Gary Ridgway,
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It's not only the killing itself, but it's the control of the individual
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during the killing and after the fact with the corpse,
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So, you're going to see that theme with serial killers.
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No, that earlier when he killed the first cat when he was 10,
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from successfully lying to his family about the cat.
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and my mother insisting that I eat them for dinner.
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and then he will choose like a girl from the public.
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and he got fascinated at how pretty the girl was.
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Roman Reigns is actually my current favorite right now.
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I think he should have closed out a WrestleMania.
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and I already know you're probably talking about
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without getting hit with a copyright over there.
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and you've inspired me to become a special agent.
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And you'll be able to get into law enforcement.
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Maybe he wasn't trying to strangle them with his fingers.
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big Mo record your demon laugh and use it as a sound effect.
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So that is going to do it for the YouTube portion of the podcast.
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If you guys want to go ahead and enjoy the rest of the podcast,
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some commentary and some crazy rumble rants over there.
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I don't think it's bad that where we would get banned off YouTube,