The Debrief With MyronGainesX - Fed Explains Serial Killer John Gacy. ＂The Killer Clown＂ That Committed 33 Murders!

00:00:00.780 And we are live. What's up, guys? Welcome to FedIt. Today, we're going to be talking about the killer clown, a.k.a. John Wayne Gacy. Let's get right into it, guys.

00:00:09.580 I was a special agent with Homeland Security Investigations, okay, guys? HSI. The cases that I did mostly were human smuggling and drug trafficking.

00:00:17.960 No one else has these documents, by the way.

00:00:20.280 Here's what FedIt covers.

00:00:22.020 Dr. Lafredo confirmed lacerations due to stepping on glass.

00:00:28.180 Murder investigations.

00:00:29.200 You don't see him reaching in his jacket. You don't know.

00:00:31.520 And he's positioning.

00:00:32.160 Been on February 13, 2019.

00:00:33.840 You're facing two counts of two meditative millions.

00:00:37.060 Bracketeering and Rico conspiracy.

00:00:38.800 Young slime life here and after referred to as YSL.

00:00:41.380 This is 6'9", and then this is Billy Seiko right here.

00:00:44.840 Now, when they first started, guys, 6'9 ran with me.

00:00:47.460 I'm upset. I'm watching this music video.

00:00:49.720 You know, I'm bobbing my head like, hey, this shit lit.

00:00:51.800 But at the same time, I'm pausing.

00:00:53.300 Oh, wait, who this? Right?

00:00:55.080 Who's that in the back? 0.73

00:00:57.120 Firearms and Violent Clans.

00:00:58.380 A.K.A. Bush Icy violated.

00:01:00.340 You're wanting to stay away from the big city.

00:01:02.020 The rapper Bush Icy arrested after shooting at King of Diamonds.

00:01:04.400 I'm going to strip up injured one person.

00:01:06.060 This is the one that's going to fuck him up because this gun is not tracing me.

00:01:09.620 Well, it happened at the gun range.

00:01:10.760 Here's your boy, 42 Doug, right here on the left.

00:01:13.060 Okay.

00:01:13.380 Sex trafficking and sex crimes.

00:01:14.960 They can effectively link him to paying an underage girl.

00:01:18.060 I'm going to look my 50-year-old right.

00:01:19.400 And the first bomb went off right here.

00:01:22.360 Suspect to the shutdown in Baghdad.

00:01:24.860 The site of the second explosion inspired by Al-Qaeda.

00:01:27.640 Two terrorists, the brothers, the Zokar Sarnab and Tamerlan Sarnab.

00:01:32.160 When the cartels shipped drugs into the country.

00:01:34.240 This guy got arrested for espionage, okay?

00:01:36.920 Trading secrets with the Russians for monetary compensation. 0.57

00:01:40.960 The largest corrupt police bust in New Orleans history.

00:01:44.720 The days of the police are gone, gone.

00:01:47.040 So he was in this bad boy.

00:01:48.320 We're going to go over his past, the gang ties, so that this all makes sense.

00:01:58.640 All right, we're back.

00:01:59.560 What's up, guys?

00:02:00.100 Welcome to Fed It Man.

00:02:00.960 Sorry for the delay, guys.

00:02:01.820 As you guys know, I had – this is a big episode today, and we got a lot to talk about.

00:02:05.920 Before I get into the episode, I want you guys to introduce you to a special guest I got in the house helping me out behind the scenes.

00:02:11.780 Hello.

00:02:12.580 I see you.

00:02:13.020 A little bit about me.

00:02:15.300 I run a talent management slash social media marketing agency, so a little bit of what that is right now.

00:02:24.520 I'm hoping to purchase it on TikTok and others on Twitter.

00:02:30.120 Yes.

00:02:30.600 So she's helping us out right now.

00:02:32.040 We're making a comeback on TikTok, so she's taking a bunch of the content on there because you guys know we're banned everywhere.

00:02:37.820 So, yeah.

00:02:39.140 Anyway, you guys can't hear?

00:02:41.360 Hold on one second.

00:02:42.360 Let me make sure – let me make sure that the audio – test, test, test.

00:02:47.000 I can hear.

00:02:48.800 Good.

00:02:48.980 Can you guys not hear me?

00:02:50.320 Her mic was off?

00:02:54.720 My bad.

00:02:55.340 She was muted.

00:02:56.000 You might have to introduce yourself again.

00:02:57.220 My bad.

00:02:57.740 Sorry, guys.

00:02:58.300 I gave myself a stupid bump for that one.

00:02:59.960 Stupid.

00:03:00.360 All right.

00:03:00.600 Go ahead and introduce yourself again to the people.

00:03:01.900 Okay.

00:03:02.220 I'm Mia again.

00:03:06.000 I own a talent management slash social media marketing agency.

00:03:11.480 So a little bit of what that is right now with Fresh and Fit.

00:03:14.880 I'm helping them with their TikTok.

00:03:16.160 And I help other influencers and et cetera.

00:03:21.100 Cool.

00:03:21.660 Yeah, guys.

00:03:22.040 So she's running our TikTok right now. 0.99

00:03:23.380 We have a couple of TikTok accounts.

00:03:24.500 As you guys know, we are hated everywhere.

00:03:25.880 So we're working on getting back up on the tick of the talk, go viral again, so that we can

00:03:30.840 get canceled.

00:03:31.740 But today's episode, guys, we're going to be talking about John Wayne Gacy.

00:03:34.480 But before I get into that, guys, quick analysis.

00:03:36.020 I actually wrote down a bunch of notes, as you guys can see here, a whole bunch of notes,

00:03:40.640 man.

00:03:41.320 Right?

00:03:41.940 And here's my new book, by the way, too.

00:03:43.220 It's a Drank Balls e-book that I take my notes in.

00:03:45.300 The Women Deserve Less book. 1.00

00:03:46.920 It's not misogynist enough.

00:03:48.220 Yeah.

00:03:48.480 It ran out of pages.

00:03:49.660 I was writing down stuff furiously.

00:03:51.440 Honestly, so anyway, real quick, guys, I'm live on Anchor as well.

00:03:57.040 Big Mo has helped me out with that.

00:03:58.260 He's posting all the content on Anchor.

00:04:00.640 So if you guys want to go ahead and listen to me on the go on audio, go ahead and check

00:04:04.400 me out on Anchor.

00:04:05.120 It's anchor.fm slash FEDA 1811.

00:04:09.280 Okay?

00:04:09.760 Anchor.fm slash FEDA 1811.

00:04:12.200 I'm on there on Spotify.

00:04:13.240 Google our podcast every single platform you guys listen to.

00:04:15.440 I'm still there.

00:04:16.440 But for FEDA only.

00:04:17.440 Fresh and Fit is over on Megaphone.

00:04:19.060 Also, we're still selling tickets for the party, guys.

00:04:21.500 The party's going to officially be January 14th.

00:04:23.640 It's going to be here in Miami.

00:04:24.640 We got a rooftop spot locked in.

00:04:26.220 It's going to be fucking awesome.

00:04:28.420 Okay, guys.

00:04:28.900 So our million party, we want you guys to show up.

00:04:31.700 So the way it's going to go, guys, is we're going to go ahead and make sure that we have

00:04:34.720 a free meeting.

00:04:35.420 So anyone that's in Miami that wants to meet us, we're going to have a free meetup at

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00:04:39.140 You want to pay a dollar to meet us.

00:04:40.740 But if you want to come to the party and meet the girls and booze and all the other good

00:04:44.200 stuff, you're going to have to pay, guys.

00:04:45.740 We have to put a price point on it because we're going to have a lot of celebrities

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00:04:48.420 We're going to have a lot of girls there. 1.00

00:04:49.600 Obviously, we're going to have to make sure the festivities are good.

00:04:52.460 The place that we went ahead and rented for you guys is going to be very expensive, but

00:04:56.620 we're not really pulling any stops on this party.

00:04:58.460 We want to make sure it is awesome.

00:05:00.840 It's going to be one of the best parties in Miami.

00:05:02.740 We got Chris and a bunch of other guys on the team planning it out as well as fresh.

00:05:07.500 And yeah, we're not pulling any punches.

00:05:09.400 We're really trying to make it the best, guys.

00:05:10.600 So it's going to be a great time.

00:05:11.940 And then what else here?

00:05:13.720 Cool.

00:05:14.120 And then the reason why we're doing John Wayne Gacy today, guys, is I actually took

00:05:17.080 a poll last week and I asked, hey, what do you guys want me to cover?

00:05:20.940 And this one overwhelmingly won.

00:05:22.920 So I'm not surprised that you guys would want the episode that would take me some of the

00:05:27.840 longest time to research.

00:05:29.980 I spent quite a bit of time on FEDS researching these cases, making sure that I speak from

00:05:33.420 an educated standpoint because I don't just like watch the documentary, then just come

00:05:36.600 on and do it.

00:05:37.100 Like I actually watch it, internalize it, watch it again, then watch it again to retain,

00:05:41.500 then to get, you know, get a bunch of other facts in so that I can speak in an educated

00:05:44.940 fashion about it.

00:05:45.980 And yeah, man, I hope you guys enjoyed this episode.

00:05:48.960 I put a lot of work into it.

00:05:50.220 I mean, Mia can tell you herself, I was what?

00:05:52.760 How long was I researching this thing?

00:05:53.900 Like all day?

00:05:54.400 For days.

00:05:55.300 I mean, not just today.

00:05:56.320 You did this for days.

00:05:57.460 Yeah.

00:05:57.560 You were taking notes up until the last minute, basically.

00:06:00.980 Yeah, man.

00:06:01.660 So everybody in the chat, R8 goes, now I see why you were late, Myron.

00:06:05.380 Nah, man, she just got here, you perverts, okay? 1.00

00:06:08.600 So she literally just got here.

00:06:10.840 I guess I'll read the chats real quick.

00:06:12.040 Can you pull some of them up real quick, Mia?

00:06:13.440 And then we'll get into that episode.

00:06:16.160 And we got a lot to go over, guys.

00:06:17.540 This one's going to probably be at least 90 to two hours, 90 minutes to 120 minutes.

00:06:22.780 Cool.

00:06:23.180 So we got here.

00:06:23.780 I see Disney G.

00:06:24.620 Oh, no, you got it.

00:06:25.540 Okay.

00:06:26.440 Disney G goes, five bucks.

00:06:27.780 I did really good with Jeffrey Dahmer case.

00:06:29.280 You're a great guy, and I love you.

00:06:30.500 Pause.

00:06:30.760 Thank you so much, bro.

00:06:31.480 Netflix and kill only OGs remember. 0.65

00:06:33.040 Yes.

00:06:33.240 Any chance you could get Bounty Tank on the podcast?

00:06:35.800 Yeah, I was talking with him a couple weeks back.

00:06:37.600 We just got to set up a date.

00:06:39.160 Who else?

00:06:39.680 We got Silhouette, 10 bucks.

00:06:40.720 Mario, can you go over the Kalan Walker case?

00:06:42.500 He's a rapper that just got sent us 50 years to life over sexual assault allegations.

00:06:46.100 No high profile, not a high profile case, but I think it'll make great content.

00:06:49.320 Yeah, I got to, I'm trying to like, I'm trying to give the people what they want.

00:06:53.580 So most people want serial killers and high profile cases.

00:06:56.240 But if we end up where we got a little weak, maybe I'll do that.

00:06:59.280 Disney G, no, read that one already.

00:07:01.460 Got another one?

00:07:02.700 Yes, one sec.

00:07:06.420 Okay.

00:07:07.060 Even thought of doing one on Chris Benoit.

00:07:09.300 I have thought about Chris Benoit, but if I have time, I'll do it.

00:07:13.320 Because that's a whole other thing.

00:07:15.400 Looking forward to this from Luke Red Pill Perry.

00:07:17.280 Thank you so much.

00:07:17.780 I appreciate that.

00:07:19.580 I think that's it.

00:07:20.420 That's it, right?

00:07:20.980 Caught up?

00:07:21.300 Cool.

00:07:21.740 All right, guys.

00:07:22.220 So we're going to get right into it, okay?

00:07:24.220 And I got all the tabs nice and organized here.

00:07:26.380 So we're going to get into who was John Wayne Gacy, okay?

00:07:28.440 John Wayne Gacy, born March 17, 1942, died May 10, 1994, as an American serial killer and sex offender who raped, tortured, and murdered at least 33 young men and boys.

00:07:38.220 Gracie regularly performed at children's hospitals and charitable events as Pogo the Clown or Patches the Clown.

00:07:43.560 Personas he had devised, he became known as the Killer Clown due to his public services as a clown prior to the discovery of his crime.

00:07:51.340 So we'll just read that first, guys, and we'll go ahead and get into his background, okay?

00:07:55.960 So we're going to be reacting to this documentary on John Wayne Gacy, Monster in Disguise.

00:08:02.200 And we're going to go through his upbringing here, right?

00:08:04.700 Now, I want to give you all a warning real fast.

00:08:07.560 I'm pretty confident that I might get hit with a copyright or whatever the hell while I'm playing some of these documentaries, even though I'm reacting to them and giving you guys some educated commentary here because people will be hating.

00:08:18.820 So that's why I'm live streaming on Twitch as well.

00:08:21.220 I'm on Twitch and I'm on YouTube.

00:08:23.020 Search Fresh and Fit on Twitch, guys.

00:08:24.840 I'm live over there.

00:08:25.700 So for some weird reason, this YouTube Twitch goes down.

00:08:28.760 Sorry, this YouTube stream goes down.

00:08:30.560 You guys can still catch me over there on Twitch.

00:08:32.280 I repeat, one more time for y'all.

00:08:34.700 Okay?

00:08:36.520 I'm about to start breaking down the case and reacting to two documentaries.

00:08:40.280 If I get hit with a copyright or some crap like that, I will probably still be live on Twitch.

00:08:44.820 So go ahead and open up another tab on Twitch just in case so you guys don't miss a second of this breakdown.

00:08:51.020 I'm taking some risk here, but I got to give you all this content.

00:08:53.600 It is what it is.

00:08:54.220 Like I said before, I do fed it for the love, not necessarily for the money.

00:08:58.240 So, yeah, I'm going to get into it.

00:09:00.840 So we're going to go into John Wayne Gacy's background, upbringing.

00:09:05.040 And family life.

00:09:05.700 And the last chat here, Elevated Entertainment goes five bucks.

00:09:08.560 Seems like a lot of these guys like messing with boys.

00:09:10.260 Why girls be so scared?

00:09:11.420 We should be the ones on edge.

00:09:12.800 Yeah.

00:09:14.280 I guess so, my friend.

00:09:16.660 So let's.

00:09:18.100 And then, of course, there's one hater in here.

00:09:22.060 Waldemar on says, oh, there's.

00:09:24.180 Then, you know what, dude, if you don't want to watch it, you don't have to.

00:09:26.320 If there's been plenty of documentaries, that's fine.

00:09:28.340 But I'm going to interpret and break down the documentaries, give you guys a little bit more sauce.

00:09:31.680 But, you know, if you want to hate or whatever, you don't have to watch.

00:09:33.700 I don't understand why people watch and talk shit.

00:09:35.900 Have you thought about doing a case on D.B. Cooper?

00:09:38.040 I have not.

00:09:38.700 I have not.

00:09:39.900 And then last one, Million Dollar President, first time watching Fred at Live.

00:09:42.880 Keep up the good work, Myron.

00:09:43.640 Thank you so much.

00:09:44.220 All right, guys, let's get into it.

00:09:46.000 In the Chicago winter of 1942, John and Marion Gacy awaited the birth of their second child.

00:09:53.200 The young couple already had a daughter, but John longed for a son to carry on the family name.

00:10:00.040 On March 17th, he got his wish when Marion gave birth to a boy.

00:10:05.120 They named him John Wayne after Marion's favorite movie star.

00:10:09.480 And for some of you guys that, you know, living under a rocker might not be American.

00:10:12.920 John Wayne was very famous in like the old cowboy movies, etc.

00:10:16.200 Hence why the name.

00:10:19.960 The Gacy children, including a third child, Karen, born two years later, grew up in this modest bungalow in a blue collar neighborhood.

00:10:29.000 Now, the reason why I'm putting emphasis on this, guys, is because a lot of serial killers, as you guys know, from like Jeffrey Dahmer and Gacy, come up from fucked up backgrounds.

00:10:38.640 OK, so I want you guys to really pay attention to this.

00:10:42.380 I'll be stopping it momentarily to give you guys some commentary.

00:10:45.040 But this this is very important because it's going to lay the foundation as to why Gacy becomes the man that he does later on in life.

00:10:52.640 Their father, the son of Polish immigrants and a World War One veteran, worked as a machinist building control panels for utility companies.

00:11:02.820 And just so you guys know, Chicago has probably the biggest population of Polish people in the United States, if I'm not mistaken.

00:11:12.260 It's consistently been number one to my knowledge.

00:11:14.920 So huge Polish population there.

00:11:16.380 It's a breadwinner, so that's what I think he thought his respective duties were to bring home and provide for us a home and food.

00:11:24.860 And but he wasn't a nurturer.

00:11:27.820 Gacy Sr. was an uncompromising man who demanded obedience from his children, especially his only son.

00:11:34.640 He expected Johnny to be like the other boys who played stickball, climbed trees and fished.

00:11:41.440 So he wanted his son to be a traditionally masculine boy.

00:11:46.740 OK, guys, now remember, this is back in the day.

00:11:48.780 This isn't nowadays in 2022 where it's like, oh, yeah, everyone is equal and all this other bullshit.

00:11:53.260 As you can see, he was a traditionally masculine man working, had a, you know, a manual labor job.

00:11:58.980 He was, you know, the sole provider and the wife was a homemaker. 0.98

00:12:03.220 So he wanted his son to be a man.

00:12:05.160 I mean, hell, that's why he wanted a son in the first place.

00:12:07.080 And this is what ends up happening.

00:12:08.200 The father was an avid fisherman and tried to teach his son the sport, but the boy had no interest.

00:12:17.160 Instead, Johnny would much rather cook with his sisters or garden with his mother.

00:12:22.740 What?

00:12:23.600 So obviously, you know, that's going to that's going to piss pops off.

00:12:27.460 Right.

00:12:27.980 So he's like, what the fuck?

00:12:29.220 You know what I mean?

00:12:30.600 Wanted to work on flower beds that he put in around the house.

00:12:34.640 It was like, you know, the sissy thing to do. 1.00

00:12:37.240 And dad was very vocal about that.

00:12:40.580 John wanted his father to know, dad, I love you.

00:12:45.880 I am your son.

00:12:47.540 But please let me be Johnny Gacy.

00:12:52.700 Also want to let you guys know that his father used to ridicule him, used to call him sissy boy.

00:12:57.540 He used to call him a bunch of effeminate derogatory terms because Gacy didn't play like sports.

00:13:04.260 He wasn't like a regular boy.

00:13:06.120 Like he preferred to do stuff with his sisters and his mom versus with the father.

00:13:10.720 He didn't like the outdoors.

00:13:11.800 He didn't like doing manual labor, which is interesting because you guys are going to see his career path later on, what he ends up doing.

00:13:17.260 But in his childhood, his dad was not necessarily proud of him.

00:13:22.100 So he was always ridiculing him.

00:13:23.980 The father would often ridicule Johnny in front of his sisters and other children in the neighborhood.

00:13:31.680 It's just a constant stream of you wimp.

00:13:38.720 You know, you're not going to be anything.

00:13:40.980 You can't do this.

00:13:42.120 What are you, one of the girls? 0.98

00:13:44.120 Taunts from a father toward his son can be devastating.

00:13:47.560 While Johnny's father was rigid and emotionally distant, the boy developed a special bond with his mother.

00:13:56.120 Mom was a confidant.

00:13:58.220 You go to mom and tell her a lot of things.

00:14:01.520 Now, Gacy had a very close relationship with his mom, which you guys are going to see later on here, how he was able to start his business through his mom.

00:14:10.360 That you couldn't talk to dad about.

00:14:13.300 And I think my dad felt threatened by that, felt like they were keeping secrets from him.

00:14:18.680 Marion was a...

00:14:19.480 And that's his sister, by the way, speaking of...

00:14:20.600 He looks just like her. 0.53

00:14:21.680 Yeah, they look very similar, right?

00:14:23.460 Homemaker.

00:14:24.360 But her husband acted as if he ran the household.

00:14:27.540 The couple argued frequently about everything, from chores to child rearing.

00:14:31.860 She tried so hard to keep the family together, knowing that her husband drank, and when he drank, he went into rages, and he usually turned on John.

00:14:47.060 And that's understatement.

00:14:48.780 His dad, guys, was an alcoholic.

00:14:50.740 You're about to see right now.

00:14:52.260 After his shift on the assembly line, Johnny's father would escape to the basement, where he would drink brandy before supper.

00:14:59.660 Marion and the children would wait at the dinner table in fear and silence until he climbed the stairs drunk.

00:15:08.520 If the children misbehaved, he would spank them with a razor strap.

00:15:13.460 We actually learned how to toughen up against it.

00:15:16.400 And John especially.

00:15:17.720 He would not cry.

00:15:19.900 He would not cry.

00:15:21.100 And sometimes I think that made Dad angry.

00:15:24.160 Johnny not only felt alien...

00:15:25.900 He was drinking that brandy, and he didn't put Coca-Cola in it like Fresh did.

00:15:29.400 He did in Romania with Tristan.

00:15:32.160 If you guys didn't see a podcast we did with Tristan, Tristan got some top-shelf brandy, gave it to Fresh, and Fresh put Coca-Cola in it, man.

00:15:38.220 That's an insult.

00:15:39.020 Yeah, it was actually hilarious.

00:15:41.560 And he actually ended up getting pretty lit on air, but that's a whole other thing.

00:15:44.880 He needed at home.

00:15:46.320 He longed to be accepted by his classmates.

00:15:48.540 But a congenital heart condition prevented him from playing with the other kids.

00:15:53.280 I was wrestling around with some older kids.

00:15:57.800 And that's him right there, guys.

00:15:59.100 This is an interview from 1992 that he did with an FBI profiler, a very famous Robert Ressler, okay?

00:16:05.980 And this is one of the few media interviews that he's done prior to him being executed in 1994.

00:16:14.500 Passed out, and I remained...

00:16:16.040 And I want you guys to pay very close attention to how he speaks, how calm he is, etc., okay?

00:16:21.640 Because you guys are going to see little excerpts of him being interviewed throughout this podcast.

00:16:26.180 Conscious for about 10 or 15 minutes.

00:16:28.680 We went to the doctor, and they said I had a large bottleneck heart.

00:16:31.180 So I was more or less like a sickly kid.

00:16:34.620 Gacy's father expressed no sympathy for his son and saw the heart condition as one more failure.

00:16:41.300 He pressured the boy to do well in school.

00:16:44.200 Johnny disappointed his father even more when he fell behind in his studies because he was at home sick so often.

00:16:51.020 So not only was he disappointing because he didn't necessarily play sports, he wasn't doing outdoor activities,

00:16:58.460 he wasn't fishing and stuff like that.

00:16:59.700 He was spending more time with his mom and his sisters cooking and cleaning versus being out doing manual labor with his father.

00:17:06.700 He also sucked at school, guys.

00:17:08.200 So his dad was never really proud of him.

00:17:12.240 You know, he always tried to seek his father's approval but could never get it, okay?

00:17:16.420 And there's about to be another bombshell dropped here in a second.

00:17:20.200 In 1954, when he was 12, Johnny made his first real attempt at fitting in with the other boys when he joined the Boy Scouts.

00:17:28.460 So finally, he does something that is masculine.

00:17:33.160 He earned merit badges in wilderness survival and campfire cooking.

00:17:38.740 But despite his sense of belonging and achievement, Johnny knew he was different from the rest of the troop.

00:17:45.100 The only other person who recognized this was his best friend, Barry Buscelli.

00:17:50.520 One afternoon while playing in his bedroom...

00:17:52.680 This is crazy.

00:17:53.600 This is crazy.

00:17:54.140 Him and his best friend are playing in the bedroom, okay?

00:17:56.560 Let's see what happens.

00:17:57.440 Johnny shared a secret with his friend.

00:18:00.900 Johnny had his mother's silk panties and bra.

00:18:04.920 What?

00:18:05.480 Sitting in a bag in his closet.

00:18:08.340 What?

00:18:09.600 I was astounded.

00:18:11.140 I said, Johnny, what are you doing with those things?

00:18:15.000 What?

00:18:15.260 And he said to me, he said, I wonder if I ever dressed up as a woman, how I would look.

00:18:27.380 What the?

00:18:28.260 Oh, shit!

00:18:28.940 Oh, shit!

00:18:29.460 So, as you guys can see, even from a young age, he was sexually confused, okay?

00:18:36.100 And this is going to be a precursor to things that occur later on.

00:18:41.480 Young Gacy was deeply confused about his sexuality, but there was no one to help him, so he buried

00:18:47.940 his secret deep inside.

00:18:50.400 By the time he entered high school, the young man had learned to hide his confusion.

00:18:55.580 John dated several girls and attended school dances with them.

00:18:59.460 But neither his grades nor his health improved.

00:19:02.900 In 1960, while attending Prosser Vocational High School, John was learning the printing

00:19:08.060 trade.

00:19:10.280 All right, so back then, guys, right?

00:19:12.300 I know some of you guys were like, printing?

00:19:13.500 What the hell is that?

00:19:14.640 Well, guys, back in the day, stationery used to be a thing, reading newspaper, writing things

00:19:18.680 down like I currently do right now.

00:19:20.440 Like, it wasn't all typing and texting and using keyboards, you know?

00:19:25.300 I mean, even typewriters were, like, a brand new thing back then.

00:19:28.200 So this was a very good profession to get into back in the day, guys, because people, that's

00:19:33.320 how they got their news.

00:19:34.060 There was no social media.

00:19:34.980 There was no phones.

00:19:35.680 There was none of that stuff.

00:19:36.360 So if you didn't watch it on the news, you didn't listen to it on the radio, or you didn't

00:19:38.900 have the paper, you weren't informed on what the hell was going on.

00:19:41.940 So this looked like a promising career until...

00:19:45.200 He had several fainting spells in shop class.

00:19:50.320 His teachers agreed that he would never be able to work with machinery.

00:19:54.580 So he kept fainting from doing the machinery, and then, bam, that's another, you know, big...

00:19:59.200 Because of his heart condition.

00:20:01.260 Another failure.

00:20:05.720 I couldn't get along with my father.

00:20:07.920 I mean, he was just overbearing.

00:20:09.420 I was dumb and stupid, never would amount to anything, and so I just took off, and I

00:20:13.520 said, to hell with it.

00:20:14.180 In 1964, when John was 22, he accepted a job as a shoe salesman in Springfield, Illinois.

00:20:21.760 All right, so we're going to fast forward here, guys.

00:20:23.260 So we got the basic, you know, concept.

00:20:25.340 So we know, right, so let's take, what's the takeaways from this?

00:20:28.420 Right?

00:20:29.980 He grew up in a, pretty much an abusive household, right, where his father, he can never get his

00:20:34.740 father's approval.

00:20:35.940 He's sexually confused.

00:20:37.320 He doesn't know what he's necessarily attracted to.

00:20:39.720 He doesn't know if he wants to dress up as a boy or a girl.

00:20:41.740 So he tries to do things, but fails, right?

00:20:45.420 He tries to join printing, fails.

00:20:48.120 He tries to play sports, can't do it because of his heart condition.

00:20:51.100 His father is chronically upset with him.

00:20:52.680 His father's an alcoholic, and he can't really get his approval.

00:20:55.960 So he ends up getting some odd jobs, et cetera.

00:20:59.600 Now we're going to fast forward, guys, to another chapter in his life where he moves,

00:21:04.220 okay?

00:21:04.460 He has his first son with his first wife, and this is the first time his father's actually

00:21:10.000 happy.

00:21:10.620 How old was he when he had his, uh, I think at this point he's in his twenties.

00:21:15.100 First time, John saw pride in his father's eyes.

00:21:18.960 So he has his first son, guys, and now his dad is finally somewhat happy with him, right?

00:21:24.880 He was happy when he saw my brother settle down and get married and have a family.

00:21:30.080 He was happy.

00:21:31.280 He, it was like John reached the ultimate with that.

00:21:36.020 That civic leader.

00:21:36.840 Okay, so now we're going to fast forward.

00:21:38.660 He becomes an adult, and he, uh, becomes a civic leader.

00:21:41.620 So let's get into this.

00:21:43.280 Springfield, Illinois, and by all accounts, had a promising future.

00:21:48.040 But the ambitious family man was hiding a sexual compulsion that threatened to ruin him.

00:21:53.860 In 1966, John, his wife Marlin, and their infant son moved to Waterloo, Iowa, a small town about

00:22:04.520 a hundred miles north of Des Moines.

00:22:07.980 John's father-in-law owned three Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurants in Waterloo.

00:22:12.300 Business was booming, and he needed a manager.

00:22:16.520 So at 24, his son-in-law began learning the restaurant business.

00:22:22.320 John loved being the boss and insisted that his employees and friends call him Colonel.

00:22:28.960 What?

00:22:29.640 What?

00:22:30.240 So as you guys can see, right?

00:22:31.940 What the fuck?

00:22:32.480 So he's in his mid-twenties now.

00:22:33.940 He's got a wife.

00:22:34.780 He's got a kid.

00:22:35.760 He's living in Iowa, uh, you know, another state over from where he grew up, and he's

00:22:41.420 managing three different KFCs that his wife's father owns, all right?

00:22:46.100 So he's, he's killing it right now.

00:22:47.800 You know what I'm saying?

00:22:48.200 He's doing pretty well for himself.

00:22:49.820 So let's, uh, see what happens next.

00:22:52.020 He wanted to be able to control people.

00:22:58.180 He loved the idea that he could, um, tell people, this is what I want you to do.

00:23:05.100 I'm the boss.

00:23:06.280 Which is why he loved referring to himself as Colonel, which you guys are going to see

00:23:09.580 a trend here, okay?

00:23:11.100 Where serial killers love, a lot of the times, love dominance.

00:23:16.060 They love control.

00:23:17.240 They're, a lot of times they didn't have control earlier in their life.

00:23:20.140 So when they finally do get it, they don't know how to respond.

00:23:22.340 We, we went over this with Jeffrey Dahmer, you know, he would, you know, he had a serious

00:23:25.940 abandonment issues with his mother and his father.

00:23:28.060 And when he finally did get a companion to hang out with him, he didn't want them to leave.

00:23:32.920 And he would, you know, he tried drugging them.

00:23:35.280 That didn't work.

00:23:36.040 He killed them.

00:23:36.900 And he ended up murdering, you know, a bunch of, uh, young men in the process, but a lot

00:23:43.020 of serial killers have a serious, um, need for control.

00:23:47.220 All right.

00:23:48.100 So, uh, let's keep running this.

00:23:50.140 John put in 16 hour days, but his commitment to the Jaycees never faltered.

00:23:57.180 He was soon considered the most valuable new member in the Waterloo chapter.

00:24:01.420 So now he's getting into politics.

00:24:03.040 I think probably it's just John's personality.

00:24:06.640 Uh, he was very ambitious and wanted to be loved by everybody and liked by everybody and

00:24:12.500 accepted.

00:24:13.240 And it was just his way.

00:24:14.760 Local Jaycee president, Charles Hill.

00:24:18.280 And real quick guys, for you guys might be wondering what the hell is a Jaycee.

00:24:21.500 Um, a Jaycee guys is basically United States junior chamber, also known as the Jaycees, Jaycees

00:24:26.780 or JCI USA is a leadership training service organization and civic organization for people

00:24:31.320 between the ages of 18 and 40.

00:24:33.180 It is a branch of junior chamber, uh, international areas of emphasis, our business development,

00:24:38.620 management skills, individual training, community service, and international connection.

00:24:41.680 So obviously he's becoming, um, you know, kind of a leader in the, in the community.

00:24:46.960 Okay.

00:24:47.400 And this is going to be paramount guys as to how he was able to commit these crimes for

00:24:52.800 so long without being caught.

00:24:54.440 All right.

00:24:55.600 Uh, you know, we can hit some of these chats real quick.

00:24:57.620 Uh, go back to my park goes $2.

00:24:59.600 Do a little dirt recent case.

00:25:01.560 He has another case.

00:25:02.480 Are you talking about the one from Atlanta with King Von?

00:25:04.580 Uh, thank board 20 bucks.

00:25:05.620 I'm such a huge fan of this.

00:25:06.780 The amount of work and research you put into this is crazy.

00:25:08.800 Big props.

00:25:09.260 My guy.

00:25:09.600 Absolutely.

00:25:10.380 You know, for all the haters, you're just reacting to a documentary.

00:25:12.380 Well, there's a lot of, uh, insightful commentary.

00:25:15.220 My friends as well.

00:25:16.540 Hey, yo, is that Ethan Klein?

00:25:17.560 It probably is bro.

00:25:18.860 Shout out to Ethan D Klein.

00:25:20.600 Uh, who else do we got?

00:25:22.160 Uh, Sabas Casa Rubius goes, Aji Myron, can you recover, cover the rapper SPM case?

00:25:28.100 I don't know who that is.

00:25:29.200 Uh, he was a very famous in like the Cholo community.

00:25:33.600 Okay.

00:25:33.980 Like the hood community. 0.99

00:25:35.340 Okay.

00:25:35.640 Um, I believe he's from the Valley.

00:25:37.280 I'm not totally sure.

00:25:38.300 Or somewhere, somewhere South.

00:25:40.520 I know that that's the only reason that I know of SPM.

00:25:42.760 I'm not out here listening to Cholo rap. 0.99

00:25:44.940 But I think he, so he went to prison and I think they say, if I'm not mistaken, they

00:25:51.980 say that it wasn't a fair trial or that he was innocent or something like that is what

00:25:57.140 they claim for SPM.

00:25:58.900 Gotcha.

00:25:59.280 Anybody else that we got here?

00:26:01.040 Uh, yes.

00:26:01.780 Let's see.

00:26:02.160 And then we got, sounds like autogenophilia.

00:26:04.900 Okay.

00:26:05.460 I looked it up.

00:26:06.500 Uh, it's derived from the Greek word love of oneself as a woman.

00:26:11.460 Oh, okay.

00:26:12.620 Yeah.

00:26:12.880 It's the term coined for a male's propensity to be sexually aroused by the thought of

00:26:17.600 himself as a female.

00:26:19.180 Okay.

00:26:19.700 That's what that sounds about right.

00:26:20.940 Shout out to the research from Mia.

00:26:22.720 Okay.

00:26:23.320 Yeah.

00:26:24.320 What else do we got here?

00:26:25.500 I think that's it.

00:26:26.500 Caught up?

00:26:26.980 Cool.

00:26:27.360 All right.

00:26:27.580 Let's get back to the, to the doc guys.

00:26:29.560 Hope you guys are enjoying this.

00:26:30.380 Do me a quick favor.

00:26:31.400 Like the video, man, because this took a lot of research, took a lot of time to make.

00:26:35.420 So, uh, you know, the only thing I ask guys is that you go ahead and like the video,

00:26:38.640 subscribe to the channel.

00:26:39.320 You don't have to donate a dollar, but I appreciate, um, everything that you guys do donate.

00:26:42.540 Like I said, this channel isn't necessarily to make money.

00:26:44.300 It's more to, uh, you know, educate you guys and do something that I miss doing working

00:26:48.800 in law enforcement.

00:26:49.500 It all makes sense.

00:26:50.080 Now, Hank Hill didn't want Bobby to follow that same path.

00:26:52.580 Okay.

00:26:53.000 Fair enough.

00:26:54.120 Was impressed with John's charm and listen to Eddie right there.

00:26:57.380 Eddie four or five, six goes five bucks.

00:26:58.840 Smash the like button.

00:26:59.460 Myron knew the man.

00:27:00.080 Keep it, keep it up.

00:27:01.040 You killing it.

00:27:01.480 Thank you, bro.

00:27:02.280 Powers of persuasion.

00:27:04.060 The Jaycees appointed him chairman of their membership drive and talk about a membership

00:27:10.080 chairman that no holds barred.

00:27:12.080 I mean, he just did everything he could do to get new members and, and he did it.

00:27:16.480 He did the job.

00:27:18.740 Gacy lured men into joining the Jaycees by inviting them to the Clayton house motel where

00:27:24.880 he screened illegal stag films and hosted orgies with prostitutes.

00:27:29.080 Oh man.

00:27:30.120 What?

00:27:30.300 So as you guys can see, the sexual deviance is starting to grow and, um, blossom.

00:27:37.620 Okay.

00:27:38.540 So he's over here bringing the prostitutes, watching stag films, et cetera.

00:27:42.520 RT Louisiana goes, how about Sam little keep up to go work?

00:27:44.720 I will do Sam littles for you guys that are wondering, Sam little has the most confirmed

00:27:48.380 kills of any serial killer in us history.

00:27:50.880 I think it was something like 93 or something like that, but that was only able to confirm

00:27:54.060 60 plus of them.

00:27:55.220 Um, he killed people for decades and I will cover him too.

00:27:58.480 Good, good, uh, good suggestion.

00:27:59.900 Ever thought about doing Nipsey hustle case?

00:28:01.380 I can in the future, uh, Haitian Jack. 0.98

00:28:03.980 And then as I, Isaiah James goes, Myron, big love for him.

00:28:06.340 I'll share.

00:28:06.580 I just want to say, I appreciate all your hard work.

00:28:07.900 All these sickos seem like they're from Wisconsin. 0.96

00:28:09.660 Yeah.

00:28:09.980 They're from the Midwest, bro.

00:28:10.740 All the weirdos are from there.

00:28:12.160 Homie was tired again.

00:28:13.020 Clown.

00:28:13.500 Freshest dog.

00:28:16.460 I love it.

00:28:17.740 Where did they even get that picture?

00:28:19.040 In one year, he signed up 20 new members.

00:28:25.000 John's sexual romps also carried over into his marriage with the full participation of his

00:28:30.400 wife, Marlene.

00:28:32.260 After an evening out, they would often swap spouses with other couples.

00:28:38.000 So he was a swinger slash a cuck. 0.53

00:28:41.200 When John's sister, Karen came in from Chicago for a visit, her brother and sister-in-law revealed

00:28:47.220 their little bedroom secrets.

00:28:49.220 And just to make this very clear for y'all, bro, this is the sixties guys, this type of

00:28:52.780 stuff, watching stag films, which is pornography, essentially right.

00:28:56.020 Taboo pornography, you know, bringing prostitutes in, you know, doing, um, 1.00

00:29:01.120 swinger parties, you know, cuckold drink.

00:29:03.480 This is all forbidden stuff, guys, in the sixties.

00:29:06.120 Like the United States was a much different place in the sixties than it is now.

00:29:09.200 Nowadays, you say that you do this shit.

00:29:10.580 No one bats an eye.

00:29:11.500 But back then it was a big deal.

00:29:13.140 So for his sister to find this out was like, what the hell is going on here?

00:29:16.600 Like, bruh.

00:29:17.380 Oh, shit.

00:29:18.060 Oh, shit.

00:29:18.740 Oh, shit.

00:29:19.380 But this is just the beginning, my friends.

00:29:20.940 He said, sometimes we don't always go home with the same persons we came with.

00:29:29.880 I really thought it was a joke.

00:29:31.780 But when it came time to go home, he took somebody else home to their house.

00:29:37.160 That was the first time I felt I didn't know my brother, that I didn't know him.

00:29:42.480 And I definitely, you can imagine how my thoughts diminished about this sister-in-law.

00:29:49.380 All right.

00:29:50.260 So we're going to fast forward here to now the sexual deviance starts to grow, guys,

00:29:54.920 and it grows into something far more nefarious.

00:29:58.120 Lust for teenage boys.

00:30:00.340 So now this develops, you know, into essentially pedophilia.

00:30:08.000 One afternoon while Marlin and the kids were away,

00:30:11.700 John invited over 15-year-old Donald Voorhees, who's...

00:30:15.580 Okay.

00:30:15.940 What we're about to listen to right now is graphic, guys.

00:30:18.360 If, you know, obviously cover your ears if you want,

00:30:20.600 or, you know, if your discretion is advised, I want to give you all this warning.

00:30:24.400 But yes, we're going to get into his first arrest here.

00:30:29.320 Father was a J.C. and an Iowa state senator.

00:30:35.080 Gacy asked the teenager if he had ever watched a stag film.

00:30:38.960 When he said no, John set up the projector in his basement.

00:30:43.140 He got Donald drunk to lower his inhibitions,

00:30:46.080 then forced himself on the boy.

00:30:49.460 Young Voorhees engaged in oral sex with Gacy. 1.00

00:30:54.140 Afterwards, John hinted that he had mob connections back in Chicago.

00:30:58.680 He threatened the teenager and paid him $50 for his silence.

00:31:03.060 I don't know what's up with this $50 thing.

00:31:05.440 Jeffrey Dahmer paid the same exact thing.

00:31:07.600 So I guess that's like the...

00:31:09.680 An enticing number.

00:31:09.960 That's the enticing number right there.

00:31:12.240 And guys, just so you know, this is what he did a lot of the time.

00:31:15.960 So as you guys know, he's obviously in the J.C.

00:31:17.700 So that insulates him a little bit where he's in a more trusted position.

00:31:20.700 And this guy, being a kid, what does he do?

00:31:22.880 Oh, I'm from Chicago.

00:31:24.400 I know people out there.

00:31:25.860 You know, I can go ahead and get you touched, blah, blah, blah.

00:31:28.240 So obviously the kid is like scared, like, oh, shit, I better not say anything because

00:31:32.780 this guy can get me jammed up.

00:31:34.640 And on top of that, it's embarrassing.

00:31:35.880 So a lot of male victims a lot of times don't go to the police for that very reason.

00:31:38.800 And not to mention, guys, this happened in the 60s, which was a time where, you know,

00:31:43.140 homosexuality was not accepted whatsoever, okay?

00:31:46.600 And we're going to get into that as well as far as like the climate for the gay community

00:31:51.960 back in the 60s and 70s, and also why that was critical to Gacy's ability to avoid detection

00:31:58.600 for so long.

00:31:59.900 Frank Baltimore goes, Joseph Roy, Joe Matheny, an American serial killer and great person

00:32:04.340 from Baltimore, Maryland area.

00:32:05.360 Please do this case.

00:32:06.640 Again, I will do cases, guys, based on what the people want.

00:32:10.400 So if I get enough people requesting it, I'll definitely do it.

00:32:13.560 Duran Hall, would you do this new murder trial?

00:32:15.560 I lived through it, but I don't know much about it.

00:32:17.500 Well, I mean, he got acquitted, man.

00:32:18.760 Can you make a video on the different Mexican cartels?

00:32:22.100 I can in the future.

00:32:22.900 Yes, yes, I will do that because that was actually what I specialized in when I was an agent myself.

00:32:27.640 Montrell Rather goes, can you do C-Murder?

00:32:29.800 Potentially, potentially.

00:32:31.180 If enough people ask for it, I'll do it.

00:32:32.980 The kid over the next-

00:32:35.100 South Park Mexican.

00:32:36.220 This period of time-

00:32:37.320 That's what SPM stands for.

00:32:39.280 Just was beside himself, couldn't do anything, did not go to the police right away,

00:32:45.480 felt, as Gacy had said, that, in fact, nobody would believe him.

00:32:53.920 In March 1968, the teen-

00:32:56.460 And just so you guys know, $50 in 1968 was approximately worth $392 in 2022, okay, according to inflation.

00:33:05.860 So that's what it was.

00:33:06.760 So basically, he paid him $400 to be quiet.

00:33:08.360 The teenager finally broke down and revealed everything to his family.

00:33:13.960 His parents pressed charges against Gacy, who was arrested and charged with sodomy.

00:33:18.940 Oh, there you go.

00:33:20.900 FBI, open up!

00:33:21.940 Police showed up at his place.

00:33:23.200 You know what time it was.

00:33:24.740 Fidel Castro, $50.

00:33:26.160 Shout out to you, bro, from the grave.

00:33:27.680 He goes, for the impact you've had in my life, though it's a bit late for me concerning my age.

00:33:30.780 Thank you.

00:33:31.380 I consume your content every day like water.

00:33:32.800 P.S.

00:33:32.960 I just blocked the bimbo that I was going to have a date with for showing fishy and masculine traits. 1.00

00:33:36.940 Love you.

00:33:37.160 Hey, man, you got to let these girls know what time it is. 0.99

00:33:39.540 Do you miss working with the feds for Matty C. Vlogs?

00:33:41.300 Yes, I do, my friend.

00:33:42.000 Every day I do, which is why I do this channel.

00:33:44.700 So here we go, guys.

00:33:45.620 So he gets charges pressed against him in 69, okay, from this guy, Voorhees, the 15-year-old.

00:33:52.120 He was out there terribly.

00:33:53.720 He was at first very, very vigilant in his protection of himself and his family.

00:34:01.340 He was one of these.

00:34:03.500 It was one-on-one.

00:34:05.120 If it wasn't me who did this, I wouldn't have done it.

00:34:09.080 The kid's a liar.

00:34:10.580 Gacy was convinced he could outsmart his accusers and insisted he be given a lie detector test.

00:34:17.440 He failed.

00:34:18.440 Oh, man.

00:34:19.580 Yeah, good job.

00:34:20.500 Denied.

00:34:20.860 Definitely take an L on that one.

00:34:22.420 You thought you were smarter than the system, bro.

00:34:23.820 But with that said, polygraphs are kind of BS.

00:34:26.540 You can beat polygraphs simply from like – because it's not really a lie detector test, guys.

00:34:30.280 It's more of a – it's a test that measures your bodily functions while you're being asked questions.

00:34:36.860 So, you know, it measures your perspiration, your heart rate, a bunch of – your glands, all this other stuff.

00:34:42.180 So it basically gives a monitor of like what it thinks the likelihood is that you're lying and or deception, as they would say.

00:34:48.580 So there's a bunch of weirdos out there that can lie with a straight face and pass lie detector tests.

00:34:53.440 A lot of times they're sociopaths.

00:34:54.960 But in this case, he failed.

00:34:56.560 Investigators even joked that the only truthful answer came when he was asked his name.

00:35:06.420 Because just so you guys know, when they give you a lie detector test, they ask you a bunch of questions like what they call like screening questions.

00:35:12.740 And those questions kind of see where your baseline is.

00:35:15.860 They ask what your name is, where were you born, questions that are easy that you're not going to lie about.

00:35:19.240 And after that, once they have that baseline of what your bodily functions are like when you tell the truth, then they go ahead and start pressing you with certain questions to see if you're being truthful.

00:35:29.800 He felt that his world had crumbled.

00:35:32.580 People would see him coming.

00:35:33.760 They didn't want to be around him.

00:35:35.480 And I think it drastically affected his personality.

00:35:39.500 During the investigation, other teenage boys came forward with allegations of sexual abuse.

00:35:46.560 Gacy pleaded guilty to the sodomy charge.

00:35:49.240 But insisted that 15-year-old Voorhees willingly engaged in oral sex with him. 0.54

00:35:57.080 So now he goes ahead and says, oh, no, it was consensual.

00:36:00.840 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, bro.

00:36:01.920 They're still underage.

00:36:05.400 And you guys are going to see a trend here that Gacy has some serious issues with taking accountability for his crimes.

00:36:11.840 Okay.

00:36:12.520 Which is a typical, you know, trait of a sociopath, narcissist, borderline personality discorter.

00:36:18.780 And a bunch of other mental issues that he has that you're going to come and find out here in a second.

00:36:24.280 This young individual made the charge at me.

00:36:29.500 He claims that he was sexually abused by me.

00:36:32.940 And in essence, he was blackmailing me for it.

00:36:35.540 Now, what?

00:36:36.380 He was blackmailing me for it, bro.

00:36:39.300 He boiled down to his oral copulation.

00:36:42.420 And it was consensual.

00:36:45.920 See how he's down?

00:36:47.200 You know, he's kind of like, you know, trying to mitigate the severity of what he did, right, to make himself feel a little bit better.

00:36:52.720 Because he knows deep down what he's doing is wrong.

00:36:54.680 He knows what he's doing is abusive to children.

00:36:56.760 He knows it's reprehensible behavior.

00:36:58.780 He knows that what he's doing is wrong.

00:37:01.160 Okay.

00:37:01.380 And the thing is, is that he's trying to cope with it in his head and saying, it's consensual.

00:37:06.760 He was blackmailing me, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:37:08.920 And there's a trend of him doing this throughout his life.

00:37:12.920 And when he's asked questions about his crimes, a lot of the times he goes ahead and tries to admonish his victims.

00:37:17.180 Like, oh, they were all stupid queers anyway, calling them, you know, homosexual derogatory terms to make himself feel better. 0.99

00:37:23.380 And, you know, he's also fairly homophobic, which you guys are going to see here in a second.

00:37:28.020 The judge didn't see it that way and gave Gacy the maximum sentence.

00:37:33.280 Ten years at the state penitentiary in Anamosa.

00:37:36.220 For sodomy. 0.90

00:37:36.720 He would never see his wife Marlene or his children again.

00:37:41.160 Gacy arrived at the prison in December 1968.

00:37:45.520 It's like he accepted it.

00:37:47.540 Like, I did the crime so I get the time.

00:37:51.400 And, I mean, he didn't say anything, but just he didn't break down.

00:37:54.700 Again, he didn't cry.

00:37:56.100 He did not cry.

00:37:56.840 We all cried, including my father.

00:37:59.700 Even behind bars, Gacy aggressively pursued all of the social outlets available to him.

00:38:06.360 He not only made friends with fellow prisoners, but he mingled with the guards, social workers, and even the warden.

00:38:13.620 And the thing is, is that he was a very charming, charismatic guy.

00:38:16.620 Guys, there's no way that you're going to be able to kill 33 people and lure him to your place and do all the things that he was able to do.

00:38:21.500 If you're not a charming, charismatic, you know, friendly, disarming individual, you know, the way he speaks, his tonality when he speaks, the cadence in how he speaks, him being a little bit chubbier, him being a clown in his off time, right?

00:38:35.360 Him being, you know, being a community leader, being involved in politics, being a public figure, saying I have these types of connections, etc.

00:38:41.540 This all plays into him being able to create a certain persona, which people would never know what's behind it, okay?

00:38:50.680 And you guys are going to see here what he does in prison.

00:38:52.500 Very smart what he does in prison.

00:38:53.580 You're going to see how he's able to get out early.

00:38:55.300 Within eight months, Gacy landed a job as head cook in the prison kitchen.

00:39:01.120 He loved trying out new recipes for the inmates.

00:39:05.200 I can say unreservedly that the quality of the food improved dramatically.

00:39:09.760 One thing John was, was a very, very, very fine cook.

00:39:13.660 And he understood something that traditionally folks who cook in prisons don't understand.

00:39:18.460 He understood the use of spices.

00:39:19.780 In December 1969, a TV film crew visited the prison to shoot a segment called...

00:39:27.720 Look at that.

00:39:28.100 He's in there for sodomy, but he's getting interviewed on television, guys.

00:39:32.220 What the hell?

00:39:35.500 Was he already a murderer at the point of this video?

00:39:38.160 No, not yet.

00:39:38.720 Not yet.

00:39:39.460 The only crime he had been convicted of at this point is sodomy of that underage kid, the 15-year-old.

00:39:46.540 Christmas at Anamosa.

00:39:47.980 In this rare footage, the head cook spoke with pride about the meal he was preparing for his fellow inmates.

00:39:55.300 The men, with the exception of the turkey, which they get a generous proportion of, and the pumpkin pie that will be served, are allowed to take as much as...

00:40:02.740 Shout out to Satan the Sinner in the fucking...

00:40:05.440 In the house, by the way.

00:40:07.060 He goes, uh...

00:40:08.500 He was putting fruity pebbles in their fruit.

00:40:12.340 Yo, shout out to Marquez.

00:40:13.640 Shout out to the Saints, guys.

00:40:15.000 Go ahead and subscribe to his YouTube channel, the Satan the Sinner, man.

00:40:17.660 Good dude.

00:40:18.420 Very intelligent, bright individual, man.

00:40:20.900 They want to eat.

00:40:22.200 The only requirement is that you eat what you take.

00:40:28.180 After his interview, Gacy joined the prison choir in singing a carol.

00:40:35.360 But this holiday season would be John's worst.

00:40:38.100 So just see, you guys can see here, what is he doing, man?

00:40:41.100 He's becoming a, you know, staple member in the prison, right?

00:40:44.480 He's the cook.

00:40:45.480 He's in the choir.

00:40:46.540 He's doing all these things to make himself seem like a good individual, all right?

00:40:52.920 Which ends up working to his benefit.

00:40:57.880 But obviously, he's going to get some tragic news here in a second.

00:41:00.100 Back in Chicago, his father was battling cirrhosis of the liver.

00:41:04.540 On Christmas morning, John Stanley Gacy died.

00:41:09.100 And as you guys know, cirrhosis of the liver occurs, you know, for heavy drinkers.

00:41:13.080 You know, he's drinking all this alcohol, drinking brandy every single night after a tough night at the mill.

00:41:17.900 Of course, you know, he's going to be, he's going to succumb to that at some point where that alcohol is going to fuck up his liver.

00:41:23.720 He was devastated his son.

00:41:26.420 He was convinced that his father died of shame over his sodomy conviction.

00:41:32.200 So as you guys can see, he can never live it down.

00:41:34.540 He always feels like he's disappointing his father.

00:41:37.260 He's in prison for sodomy.

00:41:38.800 He, you know, molested a young boy.

00:41:40.580 He fails at everything he does.

00:41:43.320 He doesn't know where sexuality stands, et cetera.

00:41:46.160 His dad is disappointed.

00:41:47.640 And then on top of that, his dad dies while he's in prison.

00:41:50.160 So you can only imagine the guilt and disappointment he has.

00:41:54.080 And he's like, damn, did I, was I responsible for getting, for, you know, stressing my dad out and killing him?

00:41:58.800 So you think he was actually trying to make his dad proud?

00:42:02.480 Like, I think so.

00:42:03.080 I think he honestly wanted validation from his father and he just wasn't able to get it.

00:42:06.720 It would explain why he would do such crazy things.

00:42:08.960 I mean, if he didn't care for his validation, I guess we could think of like the average gay person.

00:42:13.140 Like they just, their father's disapproval doesn't turn them into serial killers.

00:42:17.520 Yeah, yeah, no, of course.

00:42:18.860 Because they don't care, right?

00:42:19.440 And he went off the rails after his dad died.

00:42:21.080 And you guys are going to see this here in a sec.

00:42:22.980 Why don't prominent serial killers exist today?

00:42:25.340 Well, because we got modern technology and them niggas get caught quick. 1.00

00:42:29.620 Masodomy.

00:42:30.160 Okay, thank you so much for the masodomy silhouette.

00:42:32.660 Edgar J. Renova L. John Gay C.

00:42:35.000 I see what you did there, sir.

00:42:36.140 I thought about that, too.

00:42:38.100 Oh, man.

00:42:39.320 And then Michael Trillstein goes W. Candace.

00:42:41.100 All right, thanks.

00:42:42.840 Anything else?

00:42:43.720 Yes, there's a couple more.

00:42:45.920 Trillstein, we got that one.

00:42:46.900 A lot of Trillstein. 0.86

00:42:47.720 Big Kahuna Mo Burger and My Girl's Tiny Taco.

00:42:51.120 Okay.

00:42:51.640 All right.

00:42:52.600 Do Young Moose Baltimore Years of Cops Corruption.

00:42:55.320 Okay.

00:42:57.700 Perfect Tense took all the money they love for me.

00:43:00.760 I'm sleeping in Fresh's Dog House now.

00:43:02.520 Okay.

00:43:03.180 Interesting.

00:43:04.200 And then Top Broke Jew. 1.00

00:43:05.320 Shout out to you, Michael Trillstein.

00:43:06.700 All right, let's keep going here.

00:43:07.700 He felt like he stripped him of any dignity.

00:43:13.820 He was remorseful about that, that he disappointed him in such a way that it killed him.

00:43:19.760 And a lot of times we'd sit and we'd talk and I'd say, John, you didn't.

00:43:25.020 It was a disease.

00:43:25.980 Dad's drinking is what created his death.

00:43:29.860 Gacy's grief.

00:43:30.700 Now you guys are going to see this grief turn into rage.

00:43:33.980 Gacy quickly turned to rage, which he took out on inmates he suspected were gay.

00:43:39.940 One afternoon while walking back to his cell, he spotted two prisoners having oral sex.

00:43:45.780 Gacy kicked one of the men in the face, then returned to his cell.

00:43:50.020 So as you guys can see, he's gay himself.

00:43:53.440 He's bisexual.

00:43:54.260 And he admits that he's bisexual in several interviews.

00:43:56.600 That interview that he did with Robert Sessler from the FBI, he admits that he's bisexual.

00:44:01.960 However, he still has extremely homophobic tendencies from, you know, growing up with his father and never being able to appease his dad.

00:44:10.700 So very strange.

00:44:12.260 There was someone who was struggling with an inner demon that did not have to do with hating homosexuals, but with being attracted to them. 0.93

00:44:23.420 And John hated prison every day that he was there.

00:44:27.280 After his father's death, a lot of hates, including that one, became much more powerful in his personality.

00:44:37.940 On June 18th, 1970, prison officials released him on good behavior.

00:44:45.400 He had served 16 months of his 10-year sentence.

00:44:48.780 Oh, shit.

00:44:49.720 Oh, shit.

00:44:50.380 Oh, shit.

00:44:50.820 So he gets sentenced to 10 years, guys, and barely does a year and a half.

00:44:54.520 So he gets out on good behavior from, keep in mind, he's, you know, he's doing the choir.

00:44:59.580 He's cooking.

00:45:00.480 He's friends with the prison guards and the warden.

00:45:03.200 He's a model, you know, he's a model inmate.

00:45:06.720 He's over here, you know, shaking hands and kissing babies and being that dude.

00:45:11.000 You know what I mean?

00:45:11.360 So, of course, they're going to let him out early.

00:45:13.400 And what you guys are about to see here is some shocking shit.

00:45:16.880 Check this out.

00:45:19.880 Gacy returned to his boyhood home, Chicago, where he began to rebuild his life.

00:45:25.700 All right.

00:45:26.020 So he returns back to Chicago, right?

00:45:28.520 So now we got that chapter out of the way where, you know, his upbringing, his father, et cetera.

00:45:32.720 Now we're going to go into another documentary here, guys, called John Wayne Gacy, Devil in Disguise, which this one came out recently.

00:45:39.120 This was in 2021, which, guys, I might get hit with a copyright on this one.

00:45:42.680 Again, if you're watching on YouTube, open up another tab on Twitch, guys.

00:45:47.140 And, you know, if this goes down on YouTube, we're still going to keep going on Twitch.

00:45:50.700 All right.

00:45:50.900 So just a warning.

00:45:52.460 We covered the first portion.

00:45:53.720 We're good.

00:45:54.120 We're in the clear.

00:45:54.680 But open up another tab, Fresh and Fit on Twitch.

00:45:58.040 Check me out over there, guys.

00:45:59.140 Again, it's Fresh and Fit on Twitch in case I go ahead and get hit with the fucking on YouTube for playing this thing.

00:46:06.840 All right, guys.

00:46:08.340 So now we're going to talk about what happens once he's out on parole and some shocking information as to why he should have never been on parole in the first place.

00:46:17.240 That would have been extremely helpful to the communities in which he eventually landed.

00:46:24.680 After fooling authorities that, oh, he's fine, he's cured, Gacy was free again to come back to Chicago. 0.69

00:46:34.000 But Gacy was not fine at all.

00:46:36.740 The Iowa State Psychopathic Hospital, it was called at the time, did a complete workup of Gacy as a sex offender before the sentencing in that case, which essentially says this guy is a sexual psychopath.

00:46:54.720 Look at that, psychopathic.

00:46:59.600 Written right there, man.

00:47:01.740 There is absolutely no treatment of any kind.

00:47:05.740 The patient is unlikely to benefit from known medical treatment, antisocial personality, 301.7, which is interesting because, as you guys saw, when he was in prison, he was a social butterfly.

00:47:17.560 He was over here cooking for people, doing news interviews, you know.

00:47:20.200 But that's what psychopaths do.

00:47:21.640 Exactly.

00:47:22.500 Exactly.

00:47:23.040 They're able to put on that mask, baby, and fool everyone.

00:47:26.020 That is going to cure this guy.

00:47:30.020 And you can see here, routine laboratory, EEG, and EKG, and skull spine films were essentially normal psychological test results, a sociopathic personality disturbance, antisocial rejection.

00:47:40.600 So look at this, guys.

00:47:41.300 The documentation was there when they let him out.

00:47:44.860 Fast Like Bobby 54 goes, are you familiar with George Jung and his kingpin case?

00:47:48.140 No, I am not, my friend.

00:47:48.920 George Zimmerman trial, I never learned how he won.

00:47:53.140 He basically got found with the, you know, he was found as self-defense.

00:47:57.640 Florida is a stand-your-ground state.

00:47:59.720 The rest of his life, he's going to remain a dangerous sexual predator.

00:48:05.820 Gacy's psychiatric evaluation clearly, clearly said this man will continue to commit crimes.

00:48:20.760 Somebody somewhere really screwed the pooch on this one.

00:48:24.260 So they do a full psych eval, and they figure out that he's not rehab.

00:48:27.720 He's going to more than likely continue to commit the crimes.

00:48:30.840 He's unstable.

00:48:32.440 He's a psychopath, et cetera.

00:48:33.820 And they still let him out in less than two, in less than a year and a half, guys.

00:48:40.900 Crazy.

00:48:41.920 And let the killing spree ensue.

00:48:44.500 Because they had every warning sign.

00:48:51.740 Guys, we got 2,600 of you guys watching right now, total.

00:48:54.300 2,300 of y'all on YouTube.

00:48:55.540 Do me a quick favor, guys.

00:48:56.780 Like the video.

00:48:57.600 Subscribe to the channel, because we can get this stream taken down at any time, man.

00:49:01.560 And yeah, please like the goddamn video.

00:49:03.500 And you know what?

00:49:04.040 Someone I just saw asked for a quick summary.

00:49:06.260 So before we get into him getting back into Chicago, let's go ahead and do a quick little summary here of what the hell happened.

00:49:12.180 Okay?

00:49:12.500 So for those of you that are just joining the stream today, we're breaking down John Wayne Gacy, a.k.a.

00:49:19.720 The Killer Clown.

00:49:20.500 Okay?

00:49:20.740 One of the most prolific serial killers of all time.

00:49:22.980 Killed 33 people through the 1970s.

00:49:25.500 1970s.

00:49:26.060 Okay?

00:49:27.220 So we went over his family life, right?

00:49:29.360 When he was a child.

00:49:30.160 He was born in the 40s, I believe, right?

00:49:33.660 Born March, I think.

00:49:35.520 Check his birthday for me one time.

00:49:37.000 I think it was something.

00:49:38.060 Like March something.

00:49:39.320 I think.

00:49:41.440 Okay.

00:49:41.880 We'll get it.

00:49:42.580 But anyway, he was born in the 40s, guys.

00:49:45.080 Ends up going over to Iowa.

00:49:47.140 He has a child.

00:49:48.020 Has a wife.

00:49:48.820 42.

00:49:49.400 42.

00:49:49.960 He was born at what day?

00:49:50.760 March 17th.

00:49:51.580 March 17th, 1942.

00:49:52.820 Thank you so much for the fact check.

00:49:54.240 Right?

00:49:54.640 So he's born in 42 to a two-parent household.

00:49:57.080 His father's abusive, alcoholic, is a laborer.

00:50:00.480 His mom is a homemaker. 0.76

00:50:01.780 He ends up not, you know, playing sports and or going fishing, doing traditionally masculine things.

00:50:06.580 His father's disappointed in him.

00:50:08.040 He's confused sexually.

00:50:09.640 He dresses up in his mother's clothing.

00:50:12.020 You know, not sure if he's a boy or a girl.

00:50:14.620 He ends up joining the Boy Scouts.

00:50:16.560 Doesn't last too long in that.

00:50:18.000 He tries printing, fails at that as well.

00:50:20.240 But he does end up getting married and having a child.

00:50:22.520 His father finally starts to approve of him.

00:50:24.560 While he's in Iowa, he starts to get into some sexual deviance.

00:50:28.160 You know, he's a member of the Jaycees.

00:50:30.320 He does some, you know, wife swapping, some, you know, how do I say this? 0.98

00:50:35.460 With the swinger parties. 1.00

00:50:37.340 He's watching stag films, et cetera, getting prostitutes. 0.94

00:50:40.780 Then he goes ahead and messes with a 15-year-old boy.

00:50:44.900 They get involved in some sexual activity.

00:50:47.020 He ends up getting arrested for that.

00:50:49.100 The family presses charges.

00:50:50.440 He goes to jail for sodomy.

00:50:52.980 He claims that it was consensual and it was only oral sex, which is clearly a lie.

00:50:57.080 He gets convicted.

00:50:58.760 He gets sentenced to 10 years.

00:51:00.200 However, he only does about a year and a half on good behavior.

00:51:03.200 While he's in prison, he's the head cook.

00:51:05.080 He's out here, you know, being a positive member.

00:51:08.620 He does have some homophobic tendencies, though.

00:51:10.460 He did kick someone for giving oral sex to another inmate.

00:51:13.100 So even though he himself is bisexual, he is extremely homophobic and he tries to repress

00:51:19.240 these feelings from disappointing his dad for so much.

00:51:22.660 His father ends up dying while he's in prison and it destroys him.

00:51:26.900 So he gets out of prison, guys, and he starts to rebuild his life.

00:51:29.540 He moves back to Illinois after being in Iowa.

00:51:32.860 And that's where we are now.

00:51:34.220 So let's get into this chapter of the John Wayne Gacy.

00:51:37.260 Wow.

00:51:37.400 That was a great summary.

00:51:38.700 Thank you.

00:51:39.000 I appreciate that.

00:51:39.640 I tried off the top of the dome to pause.

00:51:46.360 Oh, my bad.

00:51:47.380 Let's play.

00:51:48.280 Okay.

00:51:48.640 Paroled out.

00:51:49.140 Where did you set up to establish your residency?

00:51:52.280 I was under the interstate compact.

00:51:54.880 I was paroled back to Illinois.

00:51:57.200 And you went to Springfield first, did you not?

00:51:59.860 No.

00:52:00.320 No?

00:52:00.720 Directly to Chicago because I had a job working at Bruno's Restaurant.

00:52:04.900 That was a requirement of interstate compact transfer.

00:52:08.280 You had to have a job and a place to stay.

00:52:10.500 I moved in with my mother.

00:52:12.740 And the condominium I had, my dad had just passed away.

00:52:15.840 And as you guys know from earlier, he's very close with his mother.

00:52:19.200 So, and his relationship with his mother is going to springboard him into a business endeavor,

00:52:25.460 which is going to springboard him into the criminal activity that you guys are about to hear about later.

00:52:29.320 So, I lived with my mother and worked at Bruno's as a chef.

00:52:36.140 Bruno's was a pizza place, but also an Italian restaurant.

00:52:41.160 And John did like his job.

00:52:43.240 I think that he liked the hobnob of being with other people.

00:52:49.520 I mean, he had a whole new life of meeting people that probably would have never been in his life had he not been working at the restaurant.

00:53:00.640 When I first got out on parole for the next two years, I stayed with Bruno's Restaurant.

00:53:06.740 And as you guys know, he was a chef while he was in prison.

00:53:08.960 So, obviously, this is a perfect segue career for him to be able to make some money on his way out on parole.

00:53:14.340 Which, no one in Illinois at this point knew that he had been in prison for almost two years, guys.

00:53:21.080 Remember, this is the 1960s, right?

00:53:24.360 So, no one – like, guys, police records weren't as streamlined as they are now where you can, you know, just punch someone's name in and get a hit.

00:53:31.320 You know, computers weren't a thing.

00:53:32.920 You know, national databases were just starting to be conceived at this point.

00:53:37.520 So, you can effectively go to another state back then and become a whole new individual.

00:53:41.980 And people wouldn't necessarily be able to pull your criminal record unless they really went looking for it, which you guys are going to see here in a second.

00:53:48.180 And I worked for them.

00:53:49.260 But on the side, I used to work from – I used to go in at 4 in the morning and get off at 2 o'clock in the afternoon.

00:53:56.060 And to me, that was too short of a day, not enough work.

00:53:58.940 So, I started doing odd jobs painting.

00:54:01.400 And I found that on the weekends, the afternoons and the weekends, I was making more money than I was as a chef, even though I was getting 12-something an hour.

00:54:16.720 I borrowed $600 from my –

00:54:18.500 What's $12 an hour back then was quite a bit, actually.

00:54:21.580 This is the early 70s.

00:54:22.560 I'll look it up, guys.

00:54:23.280 I'll give you guys a cost here in a second.

00:54:25.180 My mother, and through odd jobs, I left the chef business.

00:54:30.460 That was about $12 back then, guys.

00:54:36.900 It was about $97 today.

00:54:39.920 So, that's – he was making almost $100 an hour as a goddamn chef.

00:54:43.740 Holy shit.

00:54:44.420 In today's day and age, our dollars.

00:54:45.740 So, you guys can see here, he starts his business.

00:54:49.460 So, he gets a little, you know, loan from his mom and he uses this to springboard his business, entrepreneurship.

00:54:54.740 He started kicking out this little remodeling type business.

00:55:00.540 He went to construction and repairs and rebuilding and remodeling.

00:55:07.280 He just wanted to be successful.

00:55:10.360 He wanted to be known for something.

00:55:13.260 And as you guys can see here, he gets into a manual labor, what his father was involved in and what he was not involved in when his father was alive.

00:55:22.480 So, you guys can see he finally takes the initiative after getting out of prison, getting a little advance from his mom.

00:55:27.520 Hey, I'm going to become a fucking somebody.

00:55:29.620 And I think a part of him, right, again, this is my interpretation from this, my personal interpretation from watching his interviews and everything else.

00:55:38.180 He wanted to do this to kind of appease his father, you know, even though – because he felt responsible for his father's death while he was in prison for such a terrible crime like sodomy of a child, right?

00:55:47.720 So, this was his way of saying, you know what, I'm going to make amends for being a loser all my life and never having my father see me succeed.

00:55:55.020 Because remember, at this point, his father had only been really happy with him once he had a son.

00:55:58.960 And after that, he continued to disappoint his father time and time and time again.

00:56:02.180 So, he gets into construction.

00:56:05.000 I own PDM contractors.

00:56:07.500 PDM was able to work 52 weeks out of the year while most construction companies shut down for the winter.

00:56:13.720 I never had time to shut down because I had them on a waiting list.

00:56:17.500 Our business was growing at that rapid rate.

00:56:20.800 And also, I just want to make this very clear to some of you guys, because some of you guys might not be from the United States or some of you guys have never been to the Midwest before.

00:56:28.140 It is brutally cold in the Midwest.

00:56:31.400 Like, bad.

00:56:32.400 Some of the coldest places in the United States.

00:56:34.420 Chicago in the winter is goddamn fucking miserable.

00:56:38.260 They call it the Windy City for a reason.

00:56:39.980 And the reason why, guys, is that it is unbearable during the wintertime.

00:56:43.400 Which is why he had a competitive edge because him working 52 weeks of the year, not taking time off, is a huge advantage compared to other contractors that didn't want to work in the cold.

00:56:53.260 So, that gives him a huge leg up on all his competition, which allows him to scale his business up.

00:56:57.880 And he started making quite a bit of money.

00:56:59.500 And he's able to start to do what, guys?

00:57:02.140 Procure young employees.

00:57:03.720 Which is going to be a key to the success of his crimes later on.

00:57:09.140 We can hit some of these chats real quick.

00:57:10.580 Homie lied about the $12 an hour of the 70s. 1.00

00:57:12.280 Hell, nah.

00:57:13.300 That's what he's saying he made as a cook.

00:57:17.840 All right.

00:57:18.320 Let's get back to the documentary.

00:57:19.540 Oh, Isaiah James goes, what are you doing if a guy like Gacy tried to be friends?

00:57:23.160 I'm not being friends with him.

00:57:25.380 That's a hell, nah, nah, nah.

00:57:27.980 Anything else?

00:57:28.800 That's it.

00:57:30.740 After prison, mom and John got along at first.

00:57:37.220 His wife went on.

00:57:38.680 Have you seen the Ann Hatch ambulance clip?

00:57:41.060 I'm not into conspiracy theories, but that story and clip looks crazy.

00:57:43.680 I've never heard of it.

00:57:45.020 On her way with the kids.

00:57:48.060 He never tried to contact her or anything.

00:57:50.540 And then John started talking to mom about getting a bigger place because he needed to have a garage.

00:58:01.300 He needed more space to run a business.

00:58:05.120 He couldn't do it from a condo.

00:58:08.000 Well, lo and behold, mom went ahead without us and sold it.

00:58:14.740 Bought a house that he picked out on Somerdale.

00:58:18.280 So, 8213 Somerdale Drive, which would end up becoming the grave site for about 26 individuals, guys.

00:58:27.820 All right.

00:58:29.380 And what I'll show you guys real fast is this home.

00:58:32.280 This is what it looks like today.

00:58:34.060 Okay.

00:58:34.460 They ended up knocking the house down after the police found what they found there, all the bodies.

00:58:41.480 But this is the home now.

00:58:42.800 Okay.

00:58:43.560 But this is the notorious Somerdale Drive in the Norwood Park section of Chicago.

00:58:51.720 Well, let's get back to the video.

00:58:56.840 Norwood Park is where they moved to.

00:59:00.960 Norwood Park Township was bungalows of people.

00:59:04.740 Small, single-family houses.

00:59:07.200 The good, working-class people of Chicago.

00:59:09.280 This is where they lived.

00:59:10.440 So, that's what Norwood Park Township.

00:59:12.660 Yeah, guys.

00:59:13.240 I know his body count was 33, but they found about 26 in the house.

00:59:16.220 Remember, he dumped a bunch of them on the river.

00:59:19.040 So, yes.

00:59:24.300 Are you guys saying there's no audio?

00:59:26.000 Someone said that there's no audio?

00:59:27.560 Give me a...

00:59:31.440 Test, test, test.

00:59:32.480 One, two, three.

00:59:33.060 There's only one person.

00:59:33.280 I can hear that.

00:59:34.180 I think only one person is saying that.

00:59:35.540 That Somerdale house was rented to people.

00:59:41.240 No, there's audio.

00:59:41.940 So, bro, just fix your mic, man.

00:59:43.680 Audio's fine.

00:59:44.280 Okay, someone trolling.

00:59:45.160 BM contractors.

00:59:46.900 And, like, the living room was the front office.

00:59:48.800 The dining room of that house was like a boardroom because it was an 8 by 10-foot table.

00:59:56.720 Guys, if you put, you know, audio is bad or something like that and you trolling, bro,

01:00:02.000 that you fuck it up for everybody else. 0.94

01:00:03.200 So, please don't do that, guys.

01:00:04.120 Unless the audio actually is bad, like, make sure you tell, make sure you keep it real.

01:00:09.300 Because when you troll, you fuck it up for everybody else.

01:00:12.180 With big caps and shares.

01:00:13.560 Because we use it as a boardroom for meetings.

01:00:16.180 John was happy because it was going to be where he could start a business.

01:00:20.980 And mom was happy.

01:00:22.560 I think she was happy to be back in the house again.

01:00:25.800 But all of it seemed kind of short-lived.

01:00:29.740 Yep.

01:00:30.220 And this is where shit starts to get kind of crazy, guys.

01:00:33.920 So, he moves into the house, right?

01:00:36.240 I'm going through my notes here real fast.

01:00:38.060 Can we pull out some of these chats, by the way, real quick, Mia?

01:00:40.900 There's no other new ones.

01:00:42.100 No new ones?

01:00:42.480 Okay, cool.

01:00:43.260 So, we're going to go ahead, guys, and fast forward to...

01:00:49.200 Hold on.

01:00:50.400 I took a bunch of notes here, guys.

01:00:53.200 Sorry.

01:00:53.800 We're going to fast forward here to what actually kicks off the investigation, okay?

01:00:58.320 Because the thing is, is that he starts his business, right?

01:01:01.840 He starts making money.

01:01:03.180 Now, with this business, guys, obviously, he needs people to work for him, right?

01:01:07.260 He needs people to help him with all the types of construction and, you know, remodeling things that he needs done.

01:01:15.360 So, he needs cheap labor.

01:01:16.920 Who are you going to hire when you need cheap labor? 0.88

01:01:18.400 You're going to hire young, capable men, right?

01:01:22.160 Or teenagers, right?

01:01:23.400 So, there, what he does is, the sexual deviant that he is, he goes ahead and puts himself in a position of authority over these individuals.

01:01:31.700 And he's able to use his business as a guise to lure, seduce, and then kill dozens of young men, okay, guys?

01:01:43.420 So, what triggers the investigation is a boy goes missing, okay?

01:01:48.360 A kid that, you know, comes from a good family, isn't a runaway, isn't a fuck-up, etc.

01:01:53.380 His parents turn every stone to find him, and this is what ends up triggering an investigation.

01:01:57.880 We're going to fast forward to that part here.

01:01:59.520 Because between 1972 to 1978, he commits a whole bunch of murders.

01:02:04.420 And it's not until he, his last victim goes missing that the police finally start to investigate what the hell is going on.

01:02:12.580 Frankie Baltimore, five bucks, goes, such a start face, you would think, yeah, straight face.

01:02:18.080 Okay.

01:02:18.380 You would think he was the narrator of someone else's doc.

01:02:20.460 Yeah, absolutely.

01:02:21.200 Yeah, he sounds very, the way he talks about everything that's happening, like, it's hard to imagine that he has any sort of regret or remorse, which is why I was asking if you think he genuinely had regret or knew that what he was doing was wrong.

01:02:35.420 Because he just doesn't, I don't know, he just, it's like he's storytelling.

01:02:38.280 I think he knew kind of what was wrong because he, like, he went ahead and, like, took, like, over steps to, like, conceal it.

01:02:44.520 But definitely, you know, there's, he mitigates his, like, responsibility is what it is.

01:02:52.460 He doesn't want to take accountability for it.

01:02:54.420 Temporary Ws for Gacy.

01:02:56.400 Yeah, I mean, yeah, he ends up, like, you know, he tries to kind of shoot straight, but you guys are going to see opportunity presented itself and he couldn't help himself.

01:03:04.540 So let's get back into the, into the, into the pod.

01:03:09.780 What's your favorite case you haven't covered yet, SpongeBob?

01:03:13.420 I'm going to be covering Bin Laden here probably tonight, guys, how the CIA found him, et cetera, for the documentary series.

01:03:20.300 But let's keep going here.

01:03:21.460 Only reporter there.

01:03:22.500 But as the night wore on, words started to get out and others arrived.

01:03:28.420 All right, so this is how the investigation initiates, guys, okay?

01:03:31.360 December 11th, 1978.

01:03:36.560 By morning, the story had started to come out.

01:03:40.100 The first name to surface was Rob Peast.

01:03:43.080 Okay, guys, Rob Peast.

01:03:45.100 Burn that name into your brains, okay?

01:03:47.280 That, this missing individual, is what sparks this entire investigation.

01:03:51.420 This is a turning point, my friends.

01:03:54.760 He was the trigger to the whole investigation.

01:03:57.300 Rob Peast was working at a pharmacy in Des Plaines when all of a sudden he disappeared.

01:04:05.840 Joe Kozenczak and his fellow detectives on the Des Plaines police force weren't out to make history or write the book on serial killers on December 12th, 1978.

01:04:14.960 They were just looking for a missing boy.

01:04:16.580 As I was looking through the police reports on December 12th, I noticed the missing person's case report of a young boy.

01:04:29.000 People say policemen have a gut instinct.

01:04:31.660 In this case, that's how I'd have to describe it.

01:04:35.420 I just felt there was something in this case that we should look at closer.

01:04:40.780 I was with the Des Plaines, Illinois Police Department.

01:04:43.740 One thing I like about this documentary, by the way, is they actually went ahead and got all the police officers that were, you know, intimately involved in this investigation so you guys can get first, you know, a close perspective on to what the hell was happening.

01:04:56.940 First-hand perspective on the actual investigation with the detectives that were involved in this case, okay?

01:05:02.920 And this is a small police department, guys, so this is some shit right here that they're probably never going to forget.

01:05:07.400 And you can tell from the way that they recall the events that it's still burning their memories.

01:05:12.000 Stuff like this you never forget.

01:05:15.140 I started there in 1972.

01:05:18.960 I got a call from Captain Kozenczak on the 13th of December.

01:05:24.580 Rob Peace, 15-year-old boy from Des Plaines, had gone missing under unusual circumstances.

01:05:29.680 Late in the day on the 11th of December, his mother had come to his place of employment, which was a pharmacy in Des Plaines, picking him up at the end of his workday.

01:05:43.920 Rob Peace had come out and spoke with his mom and said, hey, listen, I'll be done in a few minutes.

01:05:48.140 I've got this contractor that I want to talk to.

01:05:50.420 So, contractor wants to talk to him, and you guys are going to see here a crazy link in a second.

01:05:58.460 I understand he's hiring, and I could probably make substantially more than I'm making here.

01:06:04.400 So, if you don't mind, I'll just be a few minutes, I'm going to go talk to this guy, and I'll be right back.

01:06:08.920 He was pretty excited about it, and I told him there'd be no problem that I'd wait.

01:06:13.780 So, you guys can see here, the parents actually went on television to talk about their missing son.

01:06:18.600 So, they didn't, you know, they didn't sleep.

01:06:22.280 And the thing also that made this crazy was that he went missing on his mom's birthday, guys.

01:06:26.260 They had planned for him to help her with setting up the party and everything else like that.

01:06:31.040 So, he came from a good home.

01:06:33.160 His parents cared about him.

01:06:34.500 The police had known him.

01:06:35.640 He was involved in the community.

01:06:37.260 So, you know, this obviously put, you know, a fire under the police officer's asses to go ahead and look for this guy,

01:06:43.320 unlike a lot of the other individuals that went missing prior to peace getting kidnapped, okay?

01:06:52.140 So, this is very important as to what led the police to start this investigation and take things a little bit more serious.

01:06:58.600 In this trail of $2, bro, I sell cars in Desmains, Illinois, Plains, Illinois.

01:07:02.520 Okay, shout out to you, my friend.

01:07:04.240 You live in a historic area.

01:07:05.500 Roy Lopez goes, doing great work.

01:07:06.760 Brother, grind never stops.

01:07:07.600 Thanks for the great content.

01:07:08.360 Absolutely, man.

01:07:08.820 I got y'all, man.

01:07:10.000 Former co-worker of mine ran out of Gacy's house and took off on his bike when Gacy came out of a room dressed as Pogo the Clown survived him somehow.

01:07:16.060 No way, bro.

01:07:17.120 No fucking way.

01:07:18.540 El Spongebob, what's your favorite?

01:07:20.180 Oh, we read that one.

01:07:20.960 We read that one before.

01:07:21.680 That's it.

01:07:22.060 And, guys, do me a quick favor, yo.

01:07:23.340 There's 2,600 of you guys watching, almost 3,000 altogether between Twitch and YouTube.

01:07:28.400 Like the goddamn video.

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01:07:31.860 Get the engagement to at least 100%.

01:07:33.560 We should be like 90% to 100% easy, guys.

01:07:35.960 This stuff took me a long time to research.

01:07:37.800 As you guys can see, I spent hours, you know, taking notes for you guys so that I would be educated on this case.

01:07:44.020 So do me a favor and like the video and subscribe to the channel.

01:07:47.640 Get me to 2K likes at least, man.

01:07:49.020 I'd really appreciate it.

01:07:49.820 Let's keep going here.

01:07:51.300 For him.

01:07:52.500 And that was the last I saw of him.

01:07:55.820 A little after 9 o'clock, Mom was waiting for him to return.

01:07:59.020 He didn't return after Rob didn't show up.

01:08:02.660 Mr. and Mrs. Peace searched all around Des Plaines, frantically looking for him.

01:08:07.120 Rob Peace was very, very close to his family.

01:08:11.260 They were going to celebrate the mother's birthday that night.

01:08:14.680 And at that point, the Peace family launched a full court press into the disappearance of a child who to them was inconceivable to have disappeared.

01:08:26.880 W. Parents in the chat.

01:08:28.800 W. Parents, man.

01:08:29.580 W. Parents.

01:08:31.020 We knew something was wrong.

01:08:32.620 So from there, we went to the police and filed a missing persons report.

01:08:41.080 Missing persons back in that era and even now are pretty much a dime a dozen.

01:08:46.580 We'll get a call of a missing person.

01:08:48.080 And they most likely have run away previously or had problems in school or with the family or something like that.

01:08:55.260 It was totally different with Rob Peace.

01:08:57.600 I mean.

01:08:57.860 And this is where John Gacy fucked up because prior guys, a lot of his victims were, you know, kids that came from fucked up homes, male prostitutes, runaways, etc.

01:09:06.840 So he was able to kind of prey on them and victimize them and no one would really care.

01:09:12.060 However, this guy had a family and his parents gave a shit, which is why they were able to put an enormous amount of pressure on the police.

01:09:18.340 And the police actually knew him as well.

01:09:19.640 So they took this investigation much more seriously, which would lead them to finding out the crazy shit they're about to find out.

01:09:26.200 He was like a really good kid.

01:09:28.720 He enjoyed school.

01:09:30.420 He enjoyed his family.

01:09:31.800 So it was really unusual for him to go missing.

01:09:34.760 So when the police report was being taken, the desk officer overheard the mother make a statement to the father saying, I wonder who the contractor guy was.

01:09:46.120 So they took the police.

01:09:47.100 They took the report on the 13th.

01:09:48.440 So he goes on missing the 11th guy.

01:09:49.880 So about two days later, they go ahead and take the report.

01:09:53.500 To me, and he just jumped out like, who is this?

01:09:58.200 And they did a little background work on this.

01:10:00.340 Find out that the contractor that was there was a gentleman by the name of John Gacy.

01:10:05.520 And his...

01:10:06.100 Oh, shit.

01:10:07.760 And what's his expertise, guys?

01:10:09.520 His expertise is he remodels pharmacies.

01:10:12.440 Oh, shit.

01:10:13.300 Oh, shit.

01:10:14.020 Oh, shit.

01:10:14.280 There's the connection, my friends.

01:10:16.600 He remodels pharmacies.

01:10:18.580 So where does he pick up the piece?

01:10:20.200 He picks them up while he's working at a pharmacy telling them, hey, I got a job for you.

01:10:25.840 Give me kind of just an overview of the business that you eventually established.

01:10:29.420 Is this self-taught then, the construction and maintenance work?

01:10:34.840 I started doing painting, and then I started doing wallpapering and decorating.

01:10:39.380 And inside of three years, PDM, which is painting, decorating, and maintenance, was doing a million dollars a year.

01:10:46.820 And that was...

01:10:47.560 So he was doing a million dollars a year, guys.

01:10:49.520 So this guy had money.

01:10:51.400 He was involved in the community.

01:10:53.040 He was involved doing charity.

01:10:55.600 He was dressing up as a clown and playing with kids in the hospitals that were sick.

01:11:00.380 He was doing...

01:11:01.680 He was involved in politics.

01:11:02.800 I know he had helped out with the Democratic Party.

01:11:05.160 He hadn't met the First Lady, which I'll pull up a picture of that for you guys here in a second. 0.98

01:11:08.240 So clearly, you know, he had some status and power, and he went after people that, quite frankly, no one cared about.

01:11:13.940 Right?

01:11:14.260 But is there any proof that he was making that much money?

01:11:17.020 Because he could have just been saying that to stroke his own ego.

01:11:20.920 I believe it, though.

01:11:21.760 Like a construction company like that, like a million a year.

01:11:24.980 But this was in the...

01:11:26.300 At this point, this was like the 70s.

01:11:27.680 Yeah, this is like 1978.

01:11:28.860 So I think that's...

01:11:29.700 If I'm not mistaken, that's about 3.5 million today.

01:11:33.100 Let me see here.

01:11:33.940 1 million USD 1978 to today.

01:11:42.060 That is approximately...

01:11:43.900 Oh, shit.

01:11:44.360 1 million dollars in 1978 is equivalent to purchasing power of about 4,552,269.94.

01:11:50.880 So, yeah.

01:11:52.580 I don't know.

01:11:53.100 He doesn't look that rich.

01:11:54.660 Yeah.

01:11:55.220 But, well, I mean, that's...

01:11:56.660 He's in a prison outfit.

01:11:57.720 He's sitting, being interviewed.

01:11:59.820 Right.

01:12:00.120 But he didn't have, like, the top-notch lawyers and, you know...

01:12:03.740 Or did he?

01:12:04.780 Well, he has some good lawyers.

01:12:06.000 You're going to see here in a second how they got them.

01:12:07.500 Okay.

01:12:08.320 But, yeah.

01:12:08.960 Like, yeah.

01:12:09.320 He was making a million dollars a year, which I believe, as a construction company...

01:12:12.620 Remember, that's gross. 0.67

01:12:14.060 That's not necessarily, like, you know, what he's pocketing.

01:12:17.560 But he was grossing a million dollars a year, which I believe in the 70s, which is the equivalent

01:12:21.700 to about 4.5 million dollars today.

01:12:23.560 So this guy was very wealthy.

01:12:25.320 He had some money.

01:12:26.180 Very successful.

01:12:27.720 And I only had four employees.

01:12:30.340 And that was the business you were in at the time of the arrests.

01:12:33.440 That's correct.

01:12:34.440 PDM in 1974 became a corporation.

01:12:38.200 And then I owned PDM Contractors Corporation.

01:12:41.280 I owned PDM Plumbing, PDM Concrete, and PDM Decorating.

01:12:45.480 And then I branched off with another partner into RAFCO Construction.

01:12:50.060 All right.

01:12:50.680 So he's saying 1974.

01:12:51.720 I'm doing it again for 1974.

01:12:53.400 That's about $6 million today.

01:12:54.620 $1 million back in 74 was about $6 million purchasing power today.

01:12:58.140 And from there, we were doing strictly drugstores.

01:13:02.860 John was successful in his, you know, remodeling business of drugstores.

01:13:07.480 He was very good at chatting up to the proprietor.

01:13:11.480 Also, I believe that he was making that money because when you're remodeling and doing commercial,

01:13:15.600 you can charge a lot more.

01:13:16.520 Because these drugstores, like, you know, typically they're owned by big companies that have the money to go ahead and, like, pay for that type of remodeling.

01:13:25.020 So when you're charging people in the commercial world, you can charge a lot more.

01:13:28.280 So I believe that he made a million bucks a year in the 70s.

01:13:32.700 Yeah.

01:13:32.920 Testing how to lay, you know, lay out the store so that people would see more products and buy something.

01:13:38.820 And, you know, he hired teenagers to do the work.

01:13:43.520 Concosts.

01:13:44.060 Not only that, he was using it for his own sexual deviant purposes.

01:13:50.000 I work for John's business, PDM Contractors.

01:13:53.640 All right.

01:13:54.140 So we're going to fast forward.

01:13:55.300 You guys are going to, we're going to revisit this individual that's about to speak right now as well.

01:13:58.780 So we're going to fast forward this to when the police start putting pressure on him, which is.

01:14:15.200 And he gave his name as John Wayne Gacy.

01:14:18.620 So they bring him in and they start this.

01:14:20.660 So they identify John Wayne Gacy as the person that Peace probably talked to last.

01:14:26.120 And this is when the police start to amp it up.

01:14:28.780 And stated that he didn't know anything about any missing kids from the drugstore.

01:14:35.340 He was a little defensive.

01:14:40.740 And based on that, we wanted to pursue him a little further.

01:14:47.820 We're trying to do some background record checks.

01:14:50.920 But in 1978, you know, it's not like it is today.

01:14:54.840 Instantaneously, you get a criminal history.

01:14:57.100 You can find out everything you want.

01:14:58.300 In 1978, the Chicago Police Department had a file called the Alpha file.

01:15:05.680 And they would, based on what you told them, search these files by hand.

01:15:12.420 Now, guys, this is not like today, OK?

01:15:16.000 Back then, right?

01:15:17.180 Like, I remember when I was an agent, like, I can go ahead and search, you know, records from any police department anywhere in the country.

01:15:22.980 Hell, I was even able to pull up Canadian records if I wanted.

01:15:25.740 But that was not what it's like, guys, back then in the 70s.

01:15:29.020 You had to manually call people and get, and then they would go look for the records by hand.

01:15:34.620 And then that's assuming if they were able to even find it, then they will call you back like a day or two later and tell you, oh, yeah, we have a police record on this individual.

01:15:42.580 This was before NCIC, NLITS, you know, all these interstate databases that tracked criminal activity or tracked criminal records.

01:15:50.120 This was way before all that.

01:15:51.800 So everything was done by phone, by typewriter, by fax.

01:15:55.400 And obviously, it would take days, if not weeks, for you to get a record back.

01:16:00.040 For some of you guys, I did a podcast on the shooting in the Miami case, right?

01:16:05.740 So back in 1986, there was a shooting with the FBI and a bunch of individuals.

01:16:09.680 Now, mind you, the reason why they got into that shooting, guys, was because they had looked, they tried to get DMV records for one of the individuals.

01:16:16.120 Had they gotten those DMV records in time, they would have identified the individuals and been able to do surveillance properly.

01:16:22.060 But since they didn't have the DMV records and didn't necessarily know what the guys looked like, that ended up with them following them to try to identify them.

01:16:28.740 And then they ended up getting in a shootout and dying.

01:16:31.080 OK, those are the dire consequences of what it was like prior to automated computer systems that would allow you to get records instantaneously in the criminal justice system.

01:16:40.320 So in the 70s, it was even less refined than the 80s, guys.

01:16:44.660 So I can only imagine how long it took these guys to get a records check back on Gacy, where they had to make phone calls, et cetera.

01:16:51.480 And at this point, they got a missing individual.

01:16:53.440 So they're probably telling, hey, I need these records immediately.

01:16:56.620 I need them now because we got a missing person.

01:16:59.160 And every single hour that passes by, when you have a missing individual, the chances and likelihood of finding them alive diminish with it, guys.

01:17:05.480 All right. So go ahead. Like the video for the WW commentary.

01:17:09.460 And let's get back into it.

01:17:10.840 We called the Chicago Police Department and said, we're trying to find out more about this guy we're looking at.

01:17:18.240 Can you help us?

01:17:19.920 Do you have any criminal history on him on record?

01:17:24.160 And this police officer said, the guy's on parole to Chicago from the state of Iowa.

01:17:30.820 He served prison time.

01:17:34.360 He was convicted of sodomy of a young boy.

01:17:38.900 And the hair stood up on the back of our necks.

01:17:41.400 Holy.

01:17:42.280 Oh, shit.

01:17:43.000 Oh, shit.

01:17:43.360 Now, so mind you guys, the police don't know.

01:17:46.520 So now they got a missing kid, comes from a good family, works at a pharmacy, was meeting with a contractor to get a job.

01:17:54.820 Right.

01:17:55.960 They find out the contractor was John Wayne Gacy.

01:17:58.620 They find out that John Wayne Gacy specializes in doing pharmacy remodeling.

01:18:03.120 And they know that he was the last individual that spoke with with peace.

01:18:07.020 And then on top of that, they do a criminal history check and find out, wait, this guy got a 10 year sentence for sodomy of a young of a young kid that was the same age as the individual we're looking for.

01:18:17.640 Bro, at that point, they're like, we got to go balls to the fucking wall on this guy.

01:18:22.800 All right.

01:18:25.800 What do we got here?

01:18:26.540 Oh, Trilla goes, my friend's dad was approached by John Wayne and tried to offer him a contracting and construction job.

01:18:32.480 And my friend's dad luckily ran away from him sensing the bad vibes.

01:18:36.620 Crazy, man.

01:18:37.120 Also like the video.

01:18:37.980 Hey, man.

01:18:38.400 Crazy world.

01:18:38.940 We're in my friends.

01:18:40.340 Would you do the Kenneth Supreme breakdown?

01:18:42.080 Yes.

01:18:42.260 I'm already researching the Kenneth Supreme team case.

01:18:45.160 This is why you got to lift and know how to throw hands.

01:18:47.420 Yes, you do.

01:18:48.000 You definitely do, bro.

01:18:49.420 In case a crazy clown comes up and tries to recruit you to do remodeling.

01:18:55.080 When they found that he had been arrested in Iowa for sexually molesting a young boy, that obviously threw some flags up.

01:19:04.640 They put together a couple of detectives later that evening and went looking for a gay suit.

01:19:11.180 So obviously armed with this information, they're about to start doing a full court press.

01:19:14.260 You guys are going to see here in a second how the police did it.

01:19:16.740 When they got to his home, he was getting ready to leave.

01:19:20.720 Now, they did not search the house at that time or look through the house?

01:19:24.080 No.

01:19:25.680 According afterwards, they're claiming that they came to the front door of the house and knocked on the door and that I hid from them.

01:19:33.180 Why didn't you let them in at that time when they were knocking at the front door?

01:19:36.860 There was no way I could have heard them.

01:19:38.640 I was way in the back of the house, in the rec room, on the telephone.

01:19:42.160 When they finally walked around the side of the house, I could look out the picture window, see them there, because I was on the phone.

01:19:49.380 And they could see me clearly, too, sitting on the couch on the telephone.

01:19:52.560 Yeah, more cap from your boy.

01:19:54.560 Stop the cap. 0.94

01:19:55.480 More than likely, Gacy.

01:19:57.220 But, you know, it is what it is, like I said before.

01:19:58.880 He's a very terrible liar.

01:20:00.240 He says things to kind of mitigate responsibility.

01:20:03.260 He tries to minimize things.

01:20:05.680 And you guys are going to see that this is a trend when they're talking to him during his interview.

01:20:09.460 Because I was talking to my sister in regards to a death in our family.

01:20:13.780 So I told her that I would call her back, got up, went to the door, and he introduced himself as cozen, Zach and Piquel,

01:20:21.680 and they wanted to come in and talk to me about Robert Piest.

01:20:26.360 And I told him that I had not had any conversation with him, but I said, if you want to talk to me, then come back there.

01:20:33.280 We just pushed him a little.

01:20:35.620 So we said, you guys are going to see that that was a big stop the cap when they search his house a little bit later.

01:20:42.280 We need you to come into the police station, give us a witness statement about what you did see when you were at the drugstore.

01:20:50.020 And he said, I don't have time.

01:20:51.860 I can't I can't do that now.

01:20:53.660 And they wanted me to come down to the police station.

01:20:55.960 OK, well, I didn't have time because I was doing work for the county and stuff like that.

01:21:00.220 As soon as we left Gacy's house, he attempted to flee from the area, running to his car and driving away at a high rate of speed.

01:21:12.800 Up.

01:21:15.680 Now, who does that, right?

01:21:17.100 I had decided based on Gacy's actions trying to run from us and his attitude in the house that I was going to try to get a search warrant.

01:21:30.940 Now, what is a search warrant, guys?

01:21:35.020 A search warrant is basically a document that you get signed by a judge, typically supported by an affidavit, right?

01:21:40.940 A fax from an investigator saying, hey, I need to search this premises because X, Y, Z.

01:21:46.320 Here's my probable cause.

01:21:47.260 Why?

01:21:47.500 I believe a crime has been committed.

01:21:48.640 And I feel as though I am going to find evidence and or fruits of a crime from searching the premises.

01:21:54.400 So they got a missing person.

01:21:56.420 They got an evasive John Gacy.

01:21:58.280 They have some interesting facts, which makes them believe that it was Gacy who is involved, indeed, the person that was involved in this person's disappearance.

01:22:06.600 So they're going to go ahead and start to try to gather evidence so that they can go ahead and do a search warrant.

01:22:10.940 Okay.

01:22:11.960 Joshua, shout out to you.

01:22:12.840 Because of the platform, I'm working to elevate myself to the highest position that God has for me.

01:22:16.800 May peace be upon you.

01:22:17.620 Much love.

01:22:17.940 Thank you so much, Joshua.

01:22:18.660 I appreciate that.

01:22:20.260 Myron, you are always preaching about doing more difficult tasks.

01:22:22.180 In that case, would you knowingly reproduce with a woman that was a serial killer or a serial killer's daughter?

01:22:26.200 The answer to that, my friend, is.

01:22:27.360 Nope.

01:22:28.280 And then was Gacy the main reason behind the people's call-ro-phobia?

01:22:32.100 Make sure to like the video.

01:22:33.260 I don't know what that means, but I'm sure Mia will go ahead and look it up for y'all.

01:22:36.700 Yeah, I'll look it up.

01:22:37.360 And then do me a quick favor, guys.

01:22:38.560 We got 2,700 y'all watching right now on YouTube alone.

01:22:41.340 Over 3,000 altogether with Twitch involved.

01:22:43.720 So, guys, do me a quick favor.

01:22:45.020 Like the video.

01:22:45.640 Give me the 2K likes, man, so I don't have to keep asking.

01:22:48.140 Once I get to 100% engagement, pretty much, I don't care anymore.

01:22:51.100 I'm just going to, you know, keep cruising and not ask for any likes on the video.

01:22:54.360 But we got to get the engagement up because I already know that this video is going to get suppressed in the algorithm based off of the sensitive nature of the content.

01:23:01.240 Okay?

01:23:01.800 So do me a favor.

01:23:02.780 Like the video because I know it's going to get suppressed.

01:23:04.440 Go ahead.

01:23:05.340 Chlorophobia is just the fear of clowns.

01:23:07.720 Oh, really?

01:23:08.840 Yeah.

01:23:08.980 Okay.

01:23:09.460 All right.

01:23:09.920 Fair enough.

01:23:10.460 I think I got that because I'm terrified of clowns.

01:23:12.440 I fucking hate clowns.

01:23:13.200 Yeah, I hate clowns.

01:23:13.760 Why?

01:23:15.060 I just never liked them.

01:23:16.380 I went to like a Barnum and Bailey Ringley Brothers circus thing, I remember, as a kid, and I just never liked the clowns.

01:23:23.600 You know?

01:23:23.900 Well, you like clowns?

01:23:24.720 Well, it's just a person with makeup.

01:23:26.080 What's so freaky about it?

01:23:27.320 I don't know, man.

01:23:28.460 They look evil to me, bro.

01:23:29.640 I'm like, what the hell?

01:23:31.900 But that's just me.

01:23:32.680 Oh, my God.

01:23:33.120 That's hilarious.

01:23:33.620 Yeah.

01:23:34.040 I definitely have that call-ro-phobia.

01:23:36.300 Yeah, I don't like clowns.

01:23:37.120 Are you afraid of heights?

01:23:40.640 I'm scared of heights, too.

01:23:41.520 Oh, my God.

01:23:42.820 Yes, I'm scared of clowns and heights.

01:23:46.260 Went into the police station finally on the next day.

01:23:48.480 This was after Cosenzak and Paquel were at the house.

01:23:51.960 They had asked me to come in and give me an account of my whereabouts.

01:23:56.280 When Gacy came into the station, it was my job to entertain him for a couple hours because he was only there for to be interviewed.

01:24:03.240 We couldn't detain him, but we didn't want him to leave until we got the search warrant.

01:24:07.620 Okay, so this is an investigative technique here, guys, right?

01:24:10.120 So when you're trying to get a search warrant, you don't want people to destroy the evidence.

01:24:13.480 So the police are smart here.

01:24:14.660 What they did was they're like, yo, let's bring him in for questioning.

01:24:18.380 Let's butter him up a little bit.

01:24:19.420 Let's build some rapport.

01:24:20.260 Let's get him to stay here as long as we possibly can while we go ahead and get our probable cause altogether, draft up an affidavit, write the affidavit, you know, draft up the affidavit, give it to the prosecutor.

01:24:29.820 Prosecutor approves it.

01:24:30.580 Then we go ahead and get it signed by a judge.

01:24:32.140 This all takes time, guys, okay?

01:24:34.040 You know, it's not easy to sit there and outline all your evidence, right?

01:24:38.020 Make sure that it's accurate and correct, right, because you can't lie under oath.

01:24:40.820 Get it to a prosecutor.

01:24:41.700 They got to read it.

01:24:42.460 Then they got to send it up to their management.

01:24:43.880 Then they approve it.

01:24:44.600 Then you finally give it to the judge.

01:24:45.740 The judge reads it, thinks it's good enough.

01:24:47.360 Then you get a sign.

01:24:48.220 So this all takes hours.

01:24:49.520 So what they're doing is they're biding their time, right, and keeping Gacy out of the house because they don't want him to destroy evidence.

01:24:55.040 Remember, guys, at this point, they've been interviewing him.

01:24:57.400 They've been asking him questions.

01:24:58.600 So they don't want him to get spooked and start, like, removing potential evidence that they can use to pin charges on him later for the disappearance of peace.

01:25:05.660 Because remember, at this point, they don't know that he's a serial killer.

01:25:08.040 They don't know that he's a mass murderer.

01:25:09.500 They just know that they got a missing boy on their hands, and they're trying to find him alive, okay?

01:25:13.320 And one day the finding is way worse than that.

01:25:16.560 So let's get back into it.

01:25:19.520 So for two hours, I sat there with him, and I quickly analyzed him and figured out this guy was a blowhard and had a big ego.

01:25:29.000 So I just started feeding it.

01:25:31.120 He'd tell me about how successful a business he was and how he took care of the neighborhood.

01:25:36.600 He was the go-to guy in this neighborhood.

01:25:39.640 See, so he's using that to his advantage.

01:25:41.200 So what does the detective do?

01:25:42.220 Oh, okay, I see that you got an ego.

01:25:43.580 That's it, bitch. 1.00

01:25:44.240 And he plays into that, which was smart on this investigator's perspective.

01:25:47.400 I would ask him, you know, about people he knew, and he started telling me that he knew this guy, he knew that guy, a politician.

01:25:55.420 So I would just act like I was really impressed, and he was just going nuts, telling me all about this.

01:26:01.440 So there was no problem keeping him there.

01:26:03.080 The thing of it is, is that on that same day...

01:26:08.420 And just so you guys know, this is what he brags about right here.

01:26:10.980 This is John Gacy right here with the First Lady, okay, with Rosalind Carter, who was the wife of Jimmy Carter back then,

01:26:18.480 who probably, arguably, is one of the worst presidents of U.S. history.

01:26:21.520 But, you know, this goes to show, right, you can see right here that he has this little badge right here,

01:26:25.660 and this means that he got approved by the Secret Service guys to go ahead and be able to meet the First Lady.

01:26:30.720 Now, again, this goes back to show you guys the archaic technology of the 1970s.

01:26:35.720 They weren't even able to pull up the fact that he was a sex offender.

01:26:38.060 They didn't even know, because if they had known that he was a sex offender,

01:26:40.700 they would have never approved them to meet the First Lady. 0.99

01:26:42.780 However, here he is being able to meet her, shake hands, and take a photograph,

01:26:46.300 because back then, you know, they just did not have the technology and or the means

01:26:50.240 to get a criminal history check on someone right there and then.

01:26:54.100 So, L Secret Service right there, my friends.

01:27:02.560 Let's keep rolling the clip.

01:27:04.500 They held me there for nine hours.

01:27:06.700 And while holding me there for nine hours, they executed a search warrant.

01:27:09.760 The first search warrant was executed on December 13th.

01:27:13.240 That is the search warrant where they claimed they went through the house looking for Robert Peace.

01:27:17.620 It was written up to be looking for Robert Peace, and Robert Peace wasn't there.

01:27:20.780 Well, yeah, duh, he wasn't there because you killed him, my friend.

01:27:25.460 And here, guys, is the search warrant that they actually – here's the text from the actual search warrant.

01:27:29.740 I'm going to go ahead and read it to y'all real fast.

01:27:32.460 And like I said before, guys, the search warrant is what you write in order to be able to search a home

01:27:38.180 to get fruits of a crime and or evidence, right?

01:27:40.060 So, I, Joseph Kozenczak, detective lieutenant with the Des Plaines Police Department,

01:27:45.080 received information on December 11th, 1978 concerning the missing persons case report on Robert J. Peace.

01:27:50.940 Male, white, born on March 15th, 1963.

01:27:55.120 5'840 pounds, brown hair, and a slim build.

01:27:57.160 During the course of my police investigation, the following information was revealed that Peace was last seen at 1922 He Ave

01:28:03.880 in Des Plaines and Nissan Drugs, where he works by Kim Byers, a fellow employee.

01:28:09.320 Byers stated that Peace approached her and said,

01:28:11.440 Come watch the register.

01:28:12.620 That contractor guy wants to talk to me.

01:28:14.800 I'll be right back.

01:28:15.540 Now, guys, just so y'all know, this is the – this is the – where the pharmacy used to be, okay?

01:28:23.120 It's now a – it's a private school slash preschool.

01:28:26.560 Actually, you know what?

01:28:27.120 Hold on.

01:28:27.740 This is what it looks like today, actually.

01:28:29.300 It's a daycare and preschool.

01:28:31.100 Mile Millie's house, it looks like.

01:28:32.980 That's what it is today.

01:28:33.660 But back then, it was a pharmacy, okay?

01:28:38.000 So, he goes,

01:28:38.760 At which time, Peace went outside the store to meet with John W. Gacy.

01:28:42.820 Mr. Leather's Peace, the missing boy's mother, was also in the store at this time

01:28:46.000 and was waiting to pick her son up from work.

01:28:49.000 Prior to leaving the store, her son requested that she wait a few minutes while she spoke –

01:28:52.920 while he spoke to a subject about a summer construction job.

01:28:55.800 Ms. Peace waited over 20 minutes in the store and then began looking for a son. 1.00

01:28:59.400 Robert Peace left the store at approximately 2,100 hours, so that's 9 p.m.,

01:29:02.680 and has not been seen or heard from since.

01:29:05.440 On a date in question, John Gacy was observed in the store at 1922 Yav on two different occasions,

01:29:11.500 once at 6 p.m. and a second time at 8 p.m.,

01:29:13.340 at which time he stayed in the store until 8.50 p.m.,

01:29:16.100 which was the approximate time that the missing person, Robert J. Peace,

01:29:19.260 disappeared from the store location.

01:29:20.500 During the course of my investigation, it was found that John W. Gacy is in fact a contractor

01:29:25.240 and owner of SAME, which is under the name of PDM Construction Company,

01:29:29.220 located at 8213 West Somerdale Ave., and that's right here, guys.

01:29:32.720 Okay?

01:29:33.520 This home now, right?

01:29:35.220 What it looks like today.

01:29:36.800 Because he ran his business out of his home, as you guys know,

01:29:38.620 from before after getting that advance from his mom.

01:29:40.320 Northridge, Illinois, which is his residence.

01:29:46.500 A one-story ranch-type house, brick structure with semi-circles drive in front and driveway

01:29:53.560 on the east side of the building.

01:29:54.880 And remember, guys, the reason why he's putting this there is because when you are doing a search warrant,

01:29:59.500 you have to be able to describe the structure that is going to be searched.

01:30:02.600 The property also contains an oversized brick garage in the rear of the property,

01:30:08.560 also included as a black van truck with PDM painted on it,

01:30:11.480 along with a black pickup truck with PDM on its side,

01:30:14.020 also a black 1979 Oldsmobile Illinois license plate, PDM 42 VIN,

01:30:19.160 and then I put the number there.

01:30:20.420 During the course of my investigation, I learned that John W. Gacy was arrested and convicted

01:30:23.660 in Waterloo, Iowa, in 1968 for sodomy and sentenced to 10 years in prison.

01:30:28.280 The sodomy arrest involved 15 and 16-year-old youths.

01:30:30.660 In 1968, John W. Gacy was arrested for conspiracy assault

01:30:34.340 with attempt to commit felony on 15, 16-year-old youths.

01:30:37.440 And this is the case number here.

01:30:39.120 Subject was also arrested on June 22, 1972,

01:30:41.840 by the Northbrook, Illinois Police Department case number,

01:30:44.760 aggravated battery, and reckless conduct, which was a sex-related offense.

01:30:48.160 And I think in this case, guys, he tried to pick up someone from a Greyhound bus station.

01:30:51.740 Okay?

01:30:52.280 Have you...

01:30:52.960 Go ahead.

01:30:53.360 Have you defined sodomy for viewers?

01:30:56.160 Yeah, I think they know what that means.

01:30:57.920 But basically, guys, putting...

01:31:00.360 Injecting someone in someone's rectum. 0.95

01:31:02.100 Something in someone's rectum, whether a foreign object or a sex organ.

01:31:05.860 All right?

01:31:08.420 So basically, this is them describing the vehicle, etc.

01:31:11.260 Some more.

01:31:11.700 So that is a search warrant, guys, that they used to search the home

01:31:14.340 on December 13, 1978, two days after Peace went missing.

01:31:20.360 Guys, like the goddamn video.

01:31:21.600 Who else is going to be pulling up search warrants, reading it for y'all,

01:31:24.060 giving y'all the...

01:31:24.720 You know, explaining what things are, etc.

01:31:27.120 What are we at here?

01:31:27.960 We got 1.8k likes.

01:31:29.220 Guys, I need you guys to get me to 2,000 at least.

01:31:32.580 Like, come on.

01:31:33.320 I'm giving y'all a lot of sauce right now.

01:31:35.060 Easy Bands goes, great content, fam.

01:31:36.600 History is written by winners.

01:31:37.540 Keep making it.

01:31:38.080 Salute and like the video for the Algo family.

01:31:40.140 Yes, guys, please like the video.

01:31:41.240 I don't ask for much.

01:31:41.900 You don't have to donate a dollar to the show.

01:31:43.360 Just like the goddamn video.

01:31:44.800 All right?

01:31:45.880 Edgar24, $5.

01:31:46.780 Myron, stop the cap.

01:31:47.460 You'll be dealing with a bunch of clowns on the after-hours show on the daily.

01:31:49.940 Much love.

01:31:50.560 Can I get a Don DeMarco?

01:31:51.480 Yes, you can, my friend.

01:31:53.580 Don DeMarco.

01:31:55.780 So now we're going to go ahead and get into Lawrence Finder,

01:31:58.580 the prosecutor for Cook County, who prosecuted this case.

01:32:01.000 There's one more.

01:32:02.180 Oh, Myron, a girl throughout my life after I told her to leave my apartment 1.00

01:32:05.540 for being disrespectful, should I report her to the authorities or ignore her?

01:32:08.320 Police probably ain't going to do nothing, bro,

01:32:09.420 if she didn't hit you, to be honest with you.

01:32:10.940 But you could go, I would go ahead and go ahead and file a police report

01:32:13.640 until it's documented.

01:32:14.300 So if something does happen, you know what I mean?

01:32:16.100 It's there.

01:32:17.180 Gacy lived in an unincorporated area of Cook County called Norwood Park.

01:32:21.300 The location of his residence was significant

01:32:23.720 because he lived a stone's throw away from the Nissan Pharmacy in the Plains.

01:32:28.680 And just so you guys know, I want to show you guys how close

01:32:30.780 this pharmacy actually was to his house.

01:32:35.200 You guys can see, seven minutes, 4.3 miles.

01:32:38.300 So here is where the pharmacy was located.

01:32:41.020 Okay, guys?

01:32:41.880 And this is where he lived.

01:32:43.520 So, you know, they had quite a bit of probable cause here to display the aid.

01:32:47.140 Not only was Gacy close to the area and he knew the area,

01:32:49.820 but he also worked on pharmacies and was a renovator for those types of businesses.

01:32:54.260 So you guys can see exactly how close Gacy was to, you know, getting peace at his place of work.

01:33:04.360 Where Rob Peace was working.

01:33:06.720 Like the goddamn video.

01:33:07.700 I'm over here pulling up maps and all this other stuff, man.

01:33:09.900 Ain't nobody else giving you all this kind of sauce anywhere else on the YouTubes.

01:33:13.180 Okay?

01:33:13.660 There's no other former federal agents on YouTube giving you guys this kind of sauce

01:33:17.060 and giving you guys this kind of insight as to criminal activity from prolific cases,

01:33:21.860 smaller cases, famous cases, whatever you guys want to call it.

01:33:24.820 Like the goddamn video.

01:33:27.080 Martin, did you hear about Ethan getting banned?

01:33:28.600 I did hear about it.

01:33:29.720 And honestly, even though I don't like Ethan Klein,

01:33:31.560 I don't think anyone should be getting banned.

01:33:32.900 Even people that are shitty podcasters.

01:33:35.920 The first search was an attempt to find Rob Peace alive.

01:33:42.100 And we didn't find that.

01:33:43.240 The first search did not give us any direct information in relation to where Rob Peace was.

01:33:51.260 But they found a bunch of crazy shit in his house

01:33:54.760 that's going to open Pandora's box

01:33:58.360 as to what your boy John Wayne Gacy was doing in his free time.

01:34:03.180 All right?

01:34:03.760 Pay attention, guys.

01:34:06.080 They didn't find any bodies in the Gacy house.

01:34:08.780 But they did find things that really didn't belong there,

01:34:12.340 such as a class ring with the initials of somebody that was not John Wayne Gacy.

01:34:17.720 So they found a high school class ring with foreign initials.

01:34:21.860 That's one thing.

01:34:24.760 And they found a variety of pornography.

01:34:27.140 They found up in the attic some shackles.

01:34:29.920 And they also found up in the attic under some insulation,

01:34:33.220 two books, one of which was entitled The Gay Love Letters.

01:34:36.240 And the other book was Pretty Boys Must Die.

01:34:39.200 You know, these are...

01:34:39.960 Okay, so they found a class ring, pornography, shackles,

01:34:46.020 two books, one called The Gay Lovers.

01:34:48.460 All right?

01:34:49.020 And then the other one is Pretty Boys Must Die. 0.87

01:34:51.620 If that doesn't raise red flags, I don't know what does.

01:34:55.900 Okay, guys?

01:34:56.500 Like, that is some wild shit for them to find at his house.

01:34:58.780 Okay?

01:34:59.020 And this is supposed to be a contractor who's involved in politics,

01:35:02.580 a good individual, you know,

01:35:04.480 dresses up as a clown for, you know, sick children at the hospital,

01:35:08.060 you know, donates, all this other stuff.

01:35:10.120 He's supposed to be a community leader, all this stuff.

01:35:12.040 And look at the stuff that they find in his house.

01:35:17.040 Very, very odd things to have in the trash can.

01:35:22.000 This is important, guys.

01:35:23.020 Pay attention to what they find in the trash can.

01:35:25.200 Also, I don't know why they didn't put this in his documentary.

01:35:27.340 They also found underwear that did not belong to him.

01:35:30.660 That was men's underwear or young men's underwear that did not belong to him.

01:35:35.060 I don't know why they didn't mention that in the documentary.

01:35:36.840 But look at what they find in the trash.

01:35:38.220 In the kitchen, they found a film receipt that originated from Nissan Pharmacy

01:35:43.860 where Rob Peace had worked.

01:35:46.380 It had no one's name on it.

01:35:47.660 All it had was a number on it.

01:35:48.980 So we really had no idea what the film was about or who it belonged to.

01:35:53.800 We assumed it probably belonged to Gacy, but they recovered that just in case.

01:36:00.340 Those are the shackles.

01:36:01.460 And they found a receipt from the pharmacy guys that belonged to Peace.

01:36:04.100 So that right there in itself, guys, all these different things.

01:36:08.220 That's the class ring.

01:36:11.360 More of the shackles.

01:36:12.520 We found driver's license from two other individuals.

01:36:16.480 So that was...

01:36:17.540 And they found driver's licenses of two people.

01:36:19.900 And these people end up missing later on, guys.

01:36:23.200 Well, we found, but nothing to lead us to Robert Peace.

01:36:26.580 So we had to leave the house and let Gacy back in. 0.99

01:36:31.460 And that right there, guys, is definitely a...

01:36:35.500 Imagine you got a missing child, right?

01:36:39.860 You're all excited.

01:36:40.880 Yeah, we're going to find him.

01:36:41.680 We're going to find him.

01:36:42.300 You go to the fucking house.

01:36:43.540 You find a class high school ring that doesn't belong to Gacy.

01:36:46.420 Men's underwear that doesn't belong to him and or would not fit him because he was obviously five foot eight, 200 plus pounds.

01:36:51.100 Okay, two books, Pretty Boys Must Die and The Gay Lovers. 0.56

01:36:55.240 You find shackles, restraining equipment, two driver's licenses of people that don't belong to him.

01:37:01.580 And on top of that, you find a receipt in the trash from the pharmacy that belongs to Peace.

01:37:07.140 So obviously, this builds a significant amount of evidence that, okay, Peace isn't here.

01:37:13.700 We got this search warrant to look for Peace and we didn't find him.

01:37:16.120 But what the hell is all this other shit?

01:37:18.600 Let's continue on.

01:37:20.780 My job at the time was to start digging into his past and in his company's past.

01:37:28.340 In case he had been married in Iowa, he had...

01:37:32.420 So obviously, this raises the police suspicions.

01:37:34.620 So they go ahead and they start digging into him.

01:37:36.640 And remember, guys, they don't know all the information that I'm telling you guys right now.

01:37:39.140 All they know is that this guy's a contractor.

01:37:41.140 He's a little weird.

01:37:42.320 What the hell's going on?

01:37:43.260 Let's look into his business.

01:37:44.280 Let's look into him.

01:37:45.260 Why the hell did we find this weird stuff at his house?

01:37:48.220 Two children out there at the time that he went to prison.

01:37:53.360 And as soon as he was paroled, he headed back to Chicago.

01:37:56.320 By checking missing persons reports from the area at a specific age, we started seeing that several other people that had worked for him were missing.

01:38:09.360 Oh, shit.

01:38:10.640 A bunch of people that worked for Gacy now all of a sudden are nowhere to be found.

01:38:16.980 Okay?

01:38:17.900 So the police are slowly starting to piece it together.

01:38:21.700 It started with one missing person that didn't show up, you know, that worked at a pharmacy.

01:38:25.640 And now they're starting to find something much more sinister.

01:38:30.440 These individuals were young men that were being reported missing and have not been seen for several months.

01:38:36.440 We find out that the driver's licenses that were found in his house seemingly were related to missing persons.

01:38:44.900 After the first search warrant, when the police officers brought back the class ring, which had initials inside of it, J.S.,

01:38:53.860 we were able to find out this ring belonged to a fellow by the name of John Zick.

01:38:58.940 And then checking with his family, finding out that, in fact, Zick is missing.

01:39:10.340 Holy!

01:39:11.440 Oh, shit!

01:39:12.140 Oh, shit!

01:39:12.780 Oh, shit!

01:39:13.460 So now they find a class ring of an individual that's been missing for a while at his house.

01:39:21.320 L. Gacy in the chat.

01:39:22.520 We would sit there in the displays police department and just say, what in God's name are we sitting on top of?

01:39:36.020 They're sitting on one of the most prolific serial killers in U.S. history.

01:39:40.540 But wait!

01:39:41.480 There's more!

01:39:47.700 Give me one to the chat if you guys want me to go ahead and recap what the hell's been going on so far.

01:39:51.600 If you guys don't want me to, I'll go ahead and continue on.

01:39:53.740 If you guys want to recap, give me a one.

01:39:54.920 If you guys want to keep just going, just give me a two.

01:39:56.780 Let's see what the chat says.

01:39:58.060 Because we're pretty much about halfway done here.

01:40:01.900 I know some of y'all just joined the stream.

01:40:05.820 Let's see here.

01:40:13.160 Mia, what are you saying?

01:40:14.240 Mostly twos.

01:40:15.020 Mostly twos?

01:40:15.700 They want me to recap real fast?

01:40:17.640 No, I thought one was recap.

01:40:19.860 One is recap.

01:40:20.640 Two is keep going.

01:40:21.600 One is recap.

01:40:22.560 Two is keep going.

01:40:24.880 It's mostly twos?

01:40:25.800 Yeah, it looks like it.

01:40:26.740 Okay.

01:40:27.080 They want to keep going.

01:40:27.620 It's kind of a mix, but I think mostly twos.

01:40:30.220 Cool.

01:40:30.480 No worries.

01:40:30.840 And don't worry, guys.

01:40:31.340 I'll make sure that I put timestamps in his bad boy as well.

01:40:34.360 So I got y'all.

01:40:36.500 Let's see here.

01:40:37.280 So where are we at here?

01:40:41.620 Okay.

01:40:42.080 Let's keep going.

01:40:42.620 We saw that Gacy had a long record.

01:40:52.740 There were red flags all along the way that for some reason nobody paid attention to.

01:40:58.680 You know, they say where there's smoke, there was fire.

01:41:02.960 In this case, there was a blaze out of control.

01:41:07.160 Don't worry, guys.

01:41:07.640 I'll recap again probably after this first portion here.

01:41:12.120 I'll recap.

01:41:12.560 Now, this guy, Craig Bowley, just so y'all know, he basically went and visited John Gacy

01:41:40.360 for many years while he was in prison and had many conversations with him.

01:41:44.600 And he was one of the few people that John Gacy was friends with while he was in prison.

01:41:47.640 So friends.

01:41:48.320 Yeah, he was actually friends with him.

01:41:49.240 He just wrote up randomly.

01:41:50.940 What was that?

01:41:51.520 They were just pen pals.

01:41:52.540 Yeah, pretty much.

01:41:53.300 They were pen pals at first.

01:41:54.640 And then he ended up visiting him in prison.

01:41:56.020 They just started talking.

01:41:57.100 Oh, strange.

01:41:57.960 Yeah.

01:41:58.400 But yeah, there's weirdos like that that write serial killers all the time.

01:42:01.540 Like Jeffrey Dahmer made like 10,000 bucks while he was in prison.

01:42:04.640 But that's good.

01:42:05.360 He had like fangirls and everything.

01:42:07.260 Yeah.

01:42:07.380 This guy was a fan too.

01:42:08.820 Wow.

01:42:09.340 So yeah.

01:42:09.860 When you're a serial killer, people just write you.

01:42:13.220 The system.

01:42:16.920 Our primary focus, our only focus was watching Gacy.

01:42:20.640 And you're hoping you're going to find this kid alive someplace, you know.

01:42:24.220 So now the police step it up and they start 24-7 surveillance.

01:42:29.820 Whatever it may be that, you know, return him home.

01:42:32.400 But it was quite apparent, you know, just days into it, that Rob Peace might have been the victim of a homicide.

01:42:40.680 We felt it very urgent that we keep an eye on Gacy.

01:42:47.200 No matter what, no matter what, let's not lose him.

01:42:50.940 From the very...

01:42:51.660 What happened?

01:42:52.520 The subtitle said, Gay C. 1.00

01:42:55.760 You're so immature.

01:42:56.820 I mean, it's just like hard not to notice it.

01:43:00.340 Sorry, keep going.

01:43:01.540 We had a team of undercover police officers, four of them, working 12-hour shifts that were supposed to be tailing him.

01:43:11.620 Now, real quick, I want to let you guys know that 24-hour surveillance is not easy to, you know, do.

01:43:19.140 It's extremely difficult.

01:43:20.040 You need quite a bit of manpower.

01:43:21.260 And the fact that they were running 24-7 surveillance with only four detectives is wild to me.

01:43:26.200 Remember, guys, this is a smaller, limited police department.

01:43:28.880 But clearly, they're very serious about trying to find this guy alive.

01:43:32.160 And they're not sure if he's alive at this point.

01:43:33.840 And they found a bunch of evidence in his house that made them say, what the fuck is going on?

01:43:38.240 We got to watch this guy.

01:43:39.060 Okay, so now they start with only four guys doing 24-7 surveillance.

01:43:46.180 I'll tell you all this myself from my professional experience.

01:43:48.480 When I've done 24-7 surveillance, you need at least, you know, six to ten guys to be able to rotate shifts and be able to do it effectively.

01:43:56.060 The fact that they were doing, you know, 12-hour shifts with only four guys is wild.

01:44:01.060 But, hey, man, that shows the resolve of the police department, even with limited resources and personnel, that they wanted to make it happen.

01:44:06.660 I start the surveillance shortly after the first search warrant.

01:44:12.520 Right away, we're thinking, hey, you know, if he's not being held against his will, Rob Peast, you know, the worst-case scenario is that he's been killed.

01:44:19.960 And there's a possibility that there's more than one victim.

01:44:22.900 So I'm thinking to myself, now, what am I doing out here by myself?

01:44:25.660 When I went back that day, I said, listen, it's probably a good idea if we grab one more guy for the night shift to be my partner.

01:44:34.140 And that's how my partner, Mike Albrecht, became involved.

01:44:37.560 We weren't necessarily given any instructions.

01:44:39.960 We're just told, watch Gacy.

01:44:42.100 And this guy was Gacy's favorite person, by the way.

01:44:44.880 He confessed a lot of his crimes to him.

01:44:46.680 He had a suspect in a, could be a homicide case, so you've got to watch.

01:44:51.420 The police had focused in on you as being the suspect and the missing boy.

01:44:56.020 And eventually...

01:44:57.620 Well, they were following me around.

01:44:58.960 Following you.

01:44:59.500 Yeah, constantly.

01:45:00.900 And on December 13th, I had made a statement to the police department.

01:45:05.880 And from that date forward, they had me under surveillance.

01:45:10.920 The only trouble is, is that the Mickey Mouse way they were doing it, they had two cars following me day and night.

01:45:17.440 And they had trouble keeping up with me, so I used to go out to the car in the morning and tell them where I was going.

01:45:25.060 Guys, that tells you his fucking cockiness right there.

01:45:29.040 You know, yo, you guys are going to follow me, et cetera.

01:45:31.400 And I also love the fact that he refuses to acknowledge.

01:45:34.080 He says, oh, it was my statement, which is why they're following me.

01:45:37.080 No, my friend.

01:45:37.740 The reason why they're following you is because they found a bunch of dudes' underwear in your place, a classroom that doesn't belong to you, a receipt from the pharmacy from someone that went missing.

01:45:46.960 And on top of that, they got handcuffs, books on handcuffs and shackles, strange books on homosexuality, to kill a pretty boy or pretty boys must die, et cetera. 0.54

01:45:58.680 Of course they're going to follow you like, what the hell is going on here?

01:46:01.700 Okay?

01:46:01.940 But he, of course, minimizes his involvement in his potential criminal activities and makes it sound like, oh, I just gave a statement and now they're following me, harassing me.

01:46:10.720 So you know what?

01:46:11.200 I'm going to go ahead and tell them where I'm going because they're Mickey Mouse police.

01:46:14.560 So you guys see what he's trying to do here?

01:46:16.300 Which is hilarious because the person that's interviewing him, guys, by the way, is an FBI agent.

01:46:20.360 He's an FBI profiler that – where Gacy was actually one of the first case studies on serial killers.

01:46:26.020 Isaiah James Subos goes, is safety ever compromised during surveillance ops?

01:46:29.800 A lot of the times it is, guys.

01:46:31.260 And the fact that the police were so overt with this is good and bad.

01:46:35.220 And you guys are going to see it here in a second.

01:46:36.460 Herbert the pervert before he entered retirement, RIP Chris Griffin.

01:46:40.380 Okay.

01:46:41.480 Let's get back into it, guys.

01:46:43.460 In case I got lost.

01:46:45.240 Because at the time I was doing five construction jobs in five parts of the city.

01:46:51.540 So in an essence, I was all over the place.

01:46:54.120 But this was like Keystone Cops trying to follow me around.

01:46:58.980 Keystone Cops.

01:46:59.780 Okay.

01:47:00.480 Hey, guys, do me a quick favor.

01:47:02.200 We got 2,900 plus y'all in here watching us on YouTube alone.

01:47:05.260 And then we got another 200 or 300 watching us on Twitch.

01:47:07.580 So go ahead and like the video, man.

01:47:09.220 Let's get it up to 2,500 likes.

01:47:11.140 Let's get the engagement up to 100%, man.

01:47:13.000 Because this video took a lot of preparation, a lot of homework.

01:47:15.940 So I hope you guys are enjoying the commentary and the documentary.

01:47:18.520 Gacy did know he was being surveilled right from the get-go on the very first day of my surgery.

01:47:24.120 When I was just being relieved, Gacy came up to us and asked if we were the police.

01:47:30.400 And we responded, well, we're with the splanes, you know. 0.93

01:47:32.940 And we've been told to keep an eye on you.

01:47:35.680 And that's what we're doing.

01:47:37.000 What?

01:47:39.480 That's just not giving a fuck.

01:47:41.220 Yeah, yeah, we got you under surveillance, bro.

01:47:42.680 We're just here.

01:47:43.300 It is what it is.

01:47:44.620 So one of us would be parked in the front of Gacy's house.

01:47:49.040 And the other one right on the corner because of Gacy wanted to go out the back and be able to watch that.

01:47:54.460 First night was kind of uneventful.

01:47:56.640 And we spent most nights at Gacy's house.

01:47:58.820 Jimmy, five bucks goes, apply to five police departments today.

01:48:00.840 Then get on YouTube to watch FNF and see my favorite YouTuber who's a former cop.

01:48:04.260 Love you even more now.

01:48:05.500 Don DeMarco.

01:48:06.040 Yes, shout out to all my brothers in blue out there that work in law enforcement.

01:48:12.080 I used to walk in law enforcement.

01:48:13.260 You know, for some of you guys that are new viewers, I used to be a special agent in Homeland Security.

01:48:16.500 You know, it was a great job, a lot of fun.

01:48:18.240 And, you know, I do the Feta Channel now to kind of relive that past.

01:48:21.280 And, you know, I break down serial killer cases for you guys, federal cases, state cases, whatever it is.

01:48:25.300 So, yeah, let's continue on with the documentary.

01:48:28.100 Thank you for the support, my friend.

01:48:29.720 But then, you know, he started going places that night.

01:48:35.760 On the third day of the surveillance, we relieved the surveillance team about midnight over at a place called the Moose Lodge in Desplaines.

01:48:45.600 And Gacy was in the Moose Lodge at that time.

01:48:48.500 So, Mike and I, being in Unchartered Waters, thought, hey, you know, it would be a lot easier if we would just go inside.

01:48:57.980 He already knows that we're here.

01:49:00.040 So, Mike and I both went in the Moose Lodge, and we saw Gacy right away.

01:49:03.300 And he saw us walk in.

01:49:04.880 We sat at a table maybe three tables away from Gacy.

01:49:08.780 And a short time later, the waitress approaches us with two beers and says,

01:49:14.620 these beers are on the gentleman over there, pointing to Gacy.

01:49:17.140 So, about halfway through our beer, we sent Gacy.

01:49:20.420 I think this is the Moose Lodge right here, guys.

01:49:22.300 I went ahead and pulled it up for y'all real quick.

01:49:24.460 This is the Moose Lodge, the family fraternity, which I guess they serve food,

01:49:29.280 and it's some kind of place where you can go hang out.

01:49:31.720 But this is it.

01:49:33.420 Don't know if it's still in operation today.

01:49:34.900 Google looks like it is in operation, but you never know nowadays.

01:49:40.040 See a beer.

01:49:40.760 So, they're over here sending each other beers.

01:49:43.540 That's how you know it's over surveillance.

01:49:45.520 Hey, we're following you.

01:49:46.940 Okay, cool.

01:49:47.420 You're following me.

01:49:47.900 Here's a beer.

01:49:50.240 Yay! 0.99

01:49:51.960 We reciprocated.

01:49:53.180 And when it was time for him to leave, he got up.

01:49:56.940 The place was just starting to close up.

01:49:58.420 And he walks past us.

01:49:59.440 And he says, hey, would you guys like to go to breakfast somewhere?

01:50:01.700 Right around the corner was a place called the Pot and Pan Restaurant.

01:50:04.960 And so, we went in there.

01:50:07.460 In case he went in, he sat down.

01:50:09.960 And we were kind of sitting off the corner a little bit away from him

01:50:13.520 and started talking back and forth.

01:50:15.300 He said, why don't you guys come over and sit down with me?

01:50:17.320 So, from that point on, when he went into a public place,

01:50:20.900 we would go in there with him.

01:50:24.540 So, they're following him around.

01:50:28.800 Overt surveillance.

01:50:29.800 Hey, we suspect you being a fucking crazy-ass killer.

01:50:33.240 We found some stuff in your house.

01:50:34.320 You know what, bro?

01:50:34.800 We're going to follow you.

01:50:35.860 Then could you imagine the guy comes up to you?

01:50:37.300 Hey, man, I know you guys are following me.

01:50:38.460 But you know what?

01:50:40.700 You want to have some food?

01:50:41.420 You want a beer?

01:50:42.160 Oh, sure.

01:50:42.880 Cool.

01:50:43.600 Just fucking sit down with the cops that are fucking trying to put you in prison

01:50:47.200 for the rest of your life, man.

01:50:49.040 Hilarious.

01:50:49.860 Yay! 0.99

01:50:50.620 Technological chaos goes, is there any future case of possibility to be done

01:50:53.200 for Roman Polanski?

01:50:54.120 I don't know who that is.

01:50:55.220 But, yes.

01:50:56.540 Let's keep going.

01:50:57.720 But, yeah, this is a hilarious surveillance.

01:50:59.100 The fact that they're over here having lunch with them,

01:51:01.120 drinking beers with them.

01:51:01.820 But, wait, guys, there's more.

01:51:06.880 And we get into all kinds of conversations about what we're doing,

01:51:12.360 why we're following him.

01:51:15.260 And he talks about his business, how successful he is.

01:51:20.200 And he told us why he hired young kids.

01:51:23.520 He says, you know, I've got to tell you from experience,

01:51:25.700 I know if I've hired a guy that's been around the block a few times,

01:51:29.940 it's hard for me to train him because he's used to doing it a certain way.

01:51:33.720 If I hire these young kids that don't have any experience, 0.98

01:51:36.380 I can train them right from the start how to do it the way I want it done.

01:51:40.980 So, he admits that he's hiring younger individuals for his business

01:51:48.740 because they're easier to train.

01:51:51.360 Mind you, guys, he doesn't know that the police have identified

01:51:54.640 a bunch of young men that went missing that worked for him.

01:52:00.520 So, this corroborates evidence that they already have, guys.

01:52:03.860 So, what they're doing, they're just compiling probable cause,

01:52:06.120 compiling probable cause.

01:52:07.300 Because at this point, they want to search his house again, guys.

01:52:09.800 Oh, he thought he was getting leverage by inviting them over.

01:52:12.980 Yeah, he thought, but he didn't know what the police knew.

01:52:15.940 So, but in the back of their minds,

01:52:18.160 oh, you're hiring a bunch of young guys?

01:52:19.840 Well, this matches up with this information that we got

01:52:21.580 of all these missing persons.

01:52:22.720 So, the police were very smart.

01:52:25.320 So, this over-surveillance ends up working in their favor.

01:52:27.720 So, let's keep going here.

01:52:28.880 Explore Miami goes, have you thought about doing the Big Meech case? 0.78

01:52:31.400 Yes, I've already been researching the Big Meech case, BMF.

01:52:33.920 I will be doing that very well, very soon.

01:52:36.800 Guys, we got 3,000 plus y'all watching on YouTube.

01:52:38.900 You guys could be anywhere else, but you're here with me.

01:52:40.900 So, thank you very much.

01:52:41.980 We got 2.1k likes.

01:52:43.280 Guys, give me the 3,000.

01:52:44.320 I'd really appreciate that.

01:52:45.300 Like I said before, this took a lot of work.

01:52:46.980 I might get turned off at any time.

01:52:48.180 I probably won't get monetized on this video

01:52:49.580 because, you know, we're discussing serial killers

01:52:51.540 and we got a documentary we're reacting to.

01:52:54.000 So, go ahead and like the video, guys.

01:52:55.160 Let's push it through the algo.

01:52:56.000 So, he was, you know, a real braggers and he would imply all his contacts that he had

01:53:03.480 in the city of Chicago.

01:53:05.020 He had a lot of friends out of Chicago Police Department.

01:53:08.140 He would just, at times, give you kind of tidbits of what he had about all his contacts.

01:53:13.720 He never really said, oh, they've done this for me.

01:53:16.680 It's more like planning to see that if he needs help, he knows where to go to get it.

01:53:22.920 Well, because of his political connections, John felt he had Teflon coding.

01:53:27.620 He could get away with anything.

01:53:29.400 That's what I've learned is like, oh, my God.

01:53:33.000 Now, let me tell you guys this from my personal experience.

01:53:35.520 Interviewing guys like dealing with criminals that are like very, how do I say this,

01:53:39.780 very pompous like this, that think that they're untouchable,

01:53:42.320 and I know people, and I know that, or like to name drop, or like to talk a lot.

01:53:45.100 But you just shut up and let them talk, right?

01:53:47.300 And you just sit there and, you know, you just think in your head, okay,

01:53:50.500 I'm just going to write this shit down in my head or whatever it may be,

01:53:53.100 or as soon as I get back to my car, I'm going to write this shit down,

01:53:55.860 put it in a report.

01:53:56.460 You just document everything.

01:53:57.320 Let them talk, man.

01:53:58.360 Let them talk because they might slip up and say the wrong thing.

01:54:00.720 Like I said before, he didn't know that they knew that he had had a bunch of young guys

01:54:06.300 that went missing that worked for him.

01:54:07.380 So that was a big clue for them, and they were able to piece the things together later on.

01:54:11.320 So with people like this that like to run their mouth,

01:54:12.680 you just let them flap their guns.

01:54:13.900 You know what I'm saying?

01:54:15.100 So this was huge.

01:54:16.360 And the fact that he wants to go ahead and be like,

01:54:17.640 I know all these political people, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:54:20.700 It works in his favor as well because what that does is it creates this false sense of security.

01:54:25.720 Okay?

01:54:25.920 He thinks he's untouchable.

01:54:27.640 So we're going to go ahead and fast forward in the documentary, guys,

01:54:30.460 to them going ahead and trying to get a second search warrant, okay,

01:54:36.060 after they get some more evidence, okay?

01:54:42.740 All right, let me –

01:54:43.660 Ken was having the film –

01:54:45.280 So this is the piece of evidence I told you guys about before with that film, right?

01:54:50.760 So –

01:54:51.980 And the evidence that they were able to get to use to help them get the second search warrant.

01:54:56.980 L to my first super chat, Franklin.

01:54:58.860 What is strange is you had 20 trained officers that came into that house,

01:55:03.900 supposedly went down in the crawl space, crawled around.

01:55:06.780 There was no –

01:55:07.020 Lurch is right.

01:55:07.880 Police –

01:55:08.480 Detectives typically always know the answers to the questions they're asking.

01:55:10.980 Just don't say shit, guys.

01:55:11.860 Yeah, don't talk to the police, guys.

01:55:13.220 No mounds of dirt.

01:55:14.180 There was no odor.

01:55:15.060 There was no nothing.

01:55:16.560 I never feared anybody going down in the crawl space.

01:55:19.620 Cap.

01:55:21.720 Now the team is starting to put a little bit of pressure on Gacy,

01:55:24.320 and he seems very agitated.

01:55:27.100 So we're starting to get to him, and we can tell.

01:55:30.500 When we first started the surveillance,

01:55:33.080 Gacy seemed to be able to operate like on three or four hours sleep.

01:55:37.460 But as the investigation went on and he was becoming more and more worried,

01:55:41.160 he was getting virtually no sleep.

01:55:43.280 And it was very visible, you know, his body language and his posture, everything.

01:55:47.900 He looked horrible.

01:55:49.760 So the police – the 24-7 surveillance is starting to put some serious pressure on him.

01:55:53.580 He's about to crack.

01:55:54.220 He was just transformed from this effervescent guy to, you know, a beaten man.

01:56:02.640 The police wanted to get a second search warrant.

01:56:06.720 The main obstacle was there was already a search warrant that had been executed,

01:56:10.260 so we needed fresh probable cause.

01:56:12.680 The probable cause for the second warrant was an amalgamation of about two or three pieces of evidence.

01:56:18.600 Okay, guys, pay attention.

01:56:20.080 This is what they used to get the second search warrant.

01:56:22.060 And actually, matter of fact, you know what?

01:56:23.200 Let's do a quick recap while we're here, all right?

01:56:25.200 So if you're just joining us, we've got 3,000-plus y'all in here.

01:56:28.200 Let's rewind and go through all the facts of the case so far.

01:56:30.720 So in the beginning part of the podcast, we went over John Quinn Gacy's background, his disapproval from his father,

01:56:37.440 growing up sexually confused, wanting to dress up as a woman, not necessarily understanding if he likes girls or guys,

01:56:42.460 sexual deviance from having sexual prostitutes, having stag films, being involved with the Jaycees.

01:56:46.280 When he moves to Iowa, he ends up getting arrested and convicted for sodomy.

01:56:49.920 He only serves about a year and a half for the crime assaulting a 15-year-old boy.

01:56:53.240 He ends up moving to Illinois after, starting a business after leaving being a chef.

01:56:58.900 And starting that business, he starts earning about a million dollars a year.

01:57:01.940 He's doing a bunch of renovation-type work, remodeling, painting, et cetera, with PDM.

01:57:06.940 He uses young boys as cheap labor for his business.

01:57:10.200 A bunch of these young boys that he employs end up going missing.

01:57:13.620 However, a lot of them come from broken families and or runaways, prostitutes, whatever it may be, 0.84

01:57:17.740 so people don't necessarily go looking for them to the same level.

01:57:20.040 Now, on December 11, 1978, he ends up, a boy goes missing named Robert Peast.

01:57:25.820 That guy ended up coming from a good family, though.

01:57:27.780 The family puts an enormous amount of pressure on the police to go find him.

01:57:31.840 Police go ahead and do a search warrant on December 13th.

01:57:34.080 Go looking in his house.

01:57:35.120 They don't find him.

01:57:36.080 However, they find a bunch of evidence, which you guys are going to see here right now,

01:57:39.100 chronicled, that is going to lead them to some shocking discoveries here in a little bit.

01:57:46.260 So that was a quick little recap.

01:57:48.240 We got 2.2K likes right now, guys.

01:57:50.600 Get us up to 3,000.

01:57:51.640 There's 3,083 you guys watching total on YouTube, and then another 300 you guys watching on Twitch.

01:57:56.800 So hopefully the stream doesn't go out, but let's get back into it.

01:58:00.140 Now they're getting the second search warrant, guys, which actually, you know what?

01:58:02.540 Matter of fact, I have something here for y'all real fast.

01:58:05.640 This is the second search warrant right here.

01:58:10.380 So a search warrant was issued on December 21st.

01:58:12.500 Let me share the screen with you guys.

01:58:16.540 Let me enlarge it real fast for you guys.

01:58:18.680 You guys should be able to see that.

01:58:20.040 Okay.

01:58:20.640 And guys, like this goddamn video.

01:58:22.240 Ain't nobody else giving y'all this kind of sauce.

01:58:24.040 A search warrant issued on December 21st, 1978 authorized the police to search defendant's home for the remains of the body of Robert P.

01:58:30.860 So remember, they were looking for him before, right, to try to find him alive, but at this point, they think he's dead.

01:58:35.560 All right.

01:58:35.780 Now we're about 10 days after the fact.

01:58:37.720 The underlying complaint for the warrant prepared by Lieutenant Kazesak basically reiterated the facts contained in the first complaint for search warrant and stated,

01:58:44.260 recovered during that search warrant pursuant to December 13th was a customer receipt number 36119 from a film developing envelope with the name and address of Neeson's Pharmacy stamped on it in ink.

01:58:54.640 Further investigation revealed that this receipt has last been in possession of Robert Peace immediately prior to the time he had disappeared.

01:59:01.820 The complaint also stated that Officer Robert Schultz had informed Lieutenant Kazesak that he had been invited into defendant's home by defendant while on the surveillance unit assigned to watch defendant

01:59:10.820 and that while inside, he detected an odor similar to that of a putrefied human body.

01:59:16.520 Officer Schultz indicated that he had smelled the odor of at least 40 putrefied human bodies and that the smell in defendant's home was similar.

01:59:24.940 Defendant's first two arguments concerning this contention.

01:59:27.360 Okay.

01:59:27.900 So this is him like arguing it, but this was the basis under which they went ahead and got the second search warrant, guys.

01:59:33.620 So let's go ahead and see how it's documented in the documentary.

01:59:39.660 One was.

01:59:40.400 So that's that class ring from that guy, Zik, that they missed and couldn't find.

01:59:44.880 Class ring that Gacy probably should not have had.

01:59:47.960 Another item of evidence found in the Gacy house was a photo slip, the kind when people used to take pictures with film,

01:59:57.440 not in Robert Peace's name, but in the name of a young lady named Kim Byers who worked at the drugstore.

02:00:04.340 And if you guys remember, Kim Byers was used, her name came up in the first search warrant where she was saying that she had last seen Rob Peace with your boy, Gacy.

02:00:15.000 Kim Byers worked at the cash register at Nissan Pharmacy, and she was at the front of the store right by the front door. 0.98

02:00:21.860 Kim Byers was going to step outside and have a break, and she borrowed Rob Peace's coat.

02:00:28.940 And just before she went outside, she took her film and was having the film process, got a receipt, put the receipt in the pocket of Peace's coat.

02:00:39.800 That's the same receipt that we found in Gacy's trash.

02:00:43.060 So that tied Peace to Gacy's house.

02:00:45.960 Bam.

02:00:46.860 The link.

02:00:47.840 That's a big, big link and a big, big find.

02:00:49.900 The third thing, as I recall, was a conversation I had with the police officers.

02:00:57.840 Now, this is the prosecutor, guys, here.

02:00:59.380 He was the one that, you know, got the search warrant for the police.

02:01:02.360 The police write the search warrant, give it to the prosecutor.

02:01:04.780 Prosecutor looks it over, and he's like, okay, this is good.

02:01:07.480 They go to the judge.

02:01:08.180 They get a sign.

02:01:08.720 So he's involved in the investigation, and he was involved in prosecuting your boy, Gacy.

02:01:13.780 So check this out, guys.

02:01:15.320 You guys are going to hear about this smell, this odor, how they were able to come to find it.

02:01:20.340 And they were doing surveillance of Gacy.

02:01:24.380 It was very, very cold that winter, and that's an important fact because they would sit right outside of his house in the unmarked police car.

02:01:32.760 Gacy, who was full of hubris and arrogance, would sometimes invite them in to use the restroom and warm up.

02:01:40.360 The second surveillance team, which was Bob Schultz and Ron Robinson, they pretty much did the same things that we did.

02:01:48.380 You know, they followed him.

02:01:49.440 They had conversations with Gacy.

02:01:52.480 They stayed with him wherever.

02:01:54.920 This particular day, Gacy says to Schultz and Robinson, he says, hey, you guys want to have dinner at my place?

02:02:01.820 And they looked at each other and said, sure.

02:02:05.820 Oh, shit.

02:02:08.000 Let's see what ends up happening here.

02:02:10.200 So they follow Gacy over to his house, go in there.

02:02:14.680 Gacy's starting to prepare dinner for him.

02:02:16.380 And while they're in there, Schultz says, hey, I've got to go to the bathroom.

02:02:22.900 So Bob went into the bathroom and what happened?

02:02:26.680 And while he was in there, the heat kicked on.

02:02:28.820 Uh-oh.

02:02:29.700 And when the heat kicks on, Schultz smells this horrific smell that he said he could only equate to the county morgue.

02:02:43.760 He thought that the odor reminded him of what he had smelled in his experience as a patrolman, the odor of decaying flesh.

02:02:53.740 When I heard that, I said, I think we have probable cause.

02:03:00.160 Bam.

02:03:01.740 And they went ahead and they were able to get the search warrant.

02:03:03.980 And you guys got to – here's the thing, guys.

02:03:05.940 Like, a dead body, it's an unmistakable smell.

02:03:09.380 So when they turned the heat on – remember, guys, he didn't smell the dead body before because they didn't have the heat on when they did the first search warrant.

02:03:15.520 Gacy wasn't friendly with them at this point.

02:03:17.820 Remember, he was back at the police station, right, getting interviewed by that guy, you know, and they were buttering up.

02:03:23.600 So that they were going ahead and try to get the probable cause.

02:03:26.680 So when they went in the house the first time, it was cold as hell in there and the heat wasn't on.

02:03:30.360 So when he invites them into the house this time, the heat's on, he's preparing food, et cetera.

02:03:34.420 So what does that do?

02:03:35.620 Well, the bodies are buried underneath the home, which obviously deals with the ventilation system.

02:03:40.560 So when the heat comes on, it amplifies the smell of the dead bodies, right?

02:03:45.460 Anyone that lives in cold weather understands that cold weather, you know, stifles putrid smells.

02:03:51.360 But heat amplifies it.

02:03:52.800 So when the heat came on, the officer, with his training experience, is like, yo, this smells like fucking dead bodies, et cetera.

02:03:58.620 So they're able to use that as a fact, put in the search warrant, and bam, they were able to go ahead and establish enough probable cause.

02:04:06.000 They probably would have even had enough probable cause maybe without the smell of the odor from all the other stuff there, the receipts, the rings, the shackles, et cetera.

02:04:16.280 You have something?

02:04:16.900 Was he burying them in the backyard or under, literally under the house?

02:04:21.260 All over the place.

02:04:22.240 All over the property.

02:04:22.860 Just wherever they could fit.

02:04:23.540 Yeah.

02:04:24.220 At some point.

02:04:25.440 Cause he, he, he did like 30, like a 30 something in his house, right?

02:04:29.500 33.

02:04:30.060 And then I think they found 26 or 27 of them in the house.

02:04:32.720 So yeah, at some point it's like whatever you can fit.

02:04:34.740 Yeah.

02:04:35.000 And then he dumped like another five in the river cause he ran out of space, which we're

02:04:38.820 going to talk about that here in a second.

02:04:40.880 Um, but yeah, as a coping mechanism, it's, it's fucked up.

02:04:43.860 Absolutely.

02:04:44.780 Um, so anyway, uh, Denny Ace goes, uh, do you think in an era, uh, in an era where police

02:04:49.140 departments didn't share to share together and there was no internet serial killers back

02:04:52.480 then were stupid to get caught?

02:04:54.420 Uh, no, man.

02:04:55.420 I mean, they just had technology wasn't against them like it is today.

02:04:58.240 You know, it's much easier for you to get caught by law enforcement.

02:05:00.640 Now there's law enforcement has so many sophisticated techniques to try to get you.

02:05:03.620 But give an example, like YNW Melly, you guys know they're going to pretty much, uh, he's

02:05:08.320 going to probably get found guilty off the phone evidence alone.

02:05:10.800 The fact that, you know, he had his phone with him the entire time and they just basically

02:05:13.980 use geolocation data to put him at the scene of the crime.

02:05:17.000 So technology nowadays makes it a lot harder for criminals to get away.

02:05:21.260 Um, and I, and if you guys want, I did a whole breakdown on the YNW Melly case, why

02:05:24.780 he's going to, he's going to get found guilty.

02:05:26.320 Like there's no way he's beating that case.

02:05:27.940 I don't know why people keep saying that.

02:05:29.060 I love Melly's music, but you got to be a realist.

02:05:31.180 He's not being in that case.

02:05:32.220 Um, any other chats before I get back into it?

02:05:34.140 Nope.

02:05:34.600 Okay.

02:05:35.080 So, uh, so Gacy invites the police officers to his home for dinner, turns on the heat.

02:05:41.560 One of the police officers goes into the bathroom, smells the putrid smell of decaying bodies.

02:05:46.680 And, uh, as well as the other stuff that they found at the house, the class ring, the books,

02:05:50.320 the underwear from other men, the, um, uh, the shackles, et cetera.

02:05:55.360 Uh, so let's run it.

02:05:58.380 Oh, and by the way, guys, go ahead and do me a quick favor.

02:06:01.040 Like the goddamn video.

02:06:02.120 I only see 2.3k likes, but there's 3,000 plus y'all in here.

02:06:04.620 So they go ahead and they apply for a search warrant complaint for search warrant.

02:06:07.880 After I prepared the, uh, search warrant with the, uh, police officers from Des Plaines,

02:06:15.560 it was already getting, uh, into the late afternoon, early evening.

02:06:19.880 So I went home.

02:06:21.080 I had dinner with my grandmother, went, uh, back to my place, fell asleep.

02:06:26.100 It all was fine until about five in the morning when I received the telephone call from assistant

02:06:31.140 state's attorney, Mike Corkell, who told me, uh, get your ass out of bed and over to the

02:06:37.580 police station.

02:06:38.740 We found bones.

02:06:41.200 Oh, shit.

02:06:43.560 Oh, shit.

02:06:44.620 Oh, shit.

02:06:45.200 So they find bones at the house, guys.

02:06:50.680 I made several trips to the house during the excavation.

02:06:54.040 And the, uh, stench in there was overwhelming.

02:06:59.880 The police officers, uh, would wear kerchiefs around their nose and mouth.

02:07:07.820 And I remember seeing what they put in body bags.

02:07:14.080 I had seen crime victims before dead people, but nothing like this.

02:07:19.760 In hindsight, everything is very, very clear.

02:07:24.640 But as you're going through it, you're trying to figure out how could he take victim after

02:07:28.960 victim from the same streets and not get caught.

02:07:32.420 And the only answer you come to is that someone was looking the other way.

02:07:37.220 This man could have been stopped.

02:07:38.820 And I know I can see some of you guys in the comments saying, yo, this video is five

02:07:45.980 hours long.

02:07:46.800 It's five hours long.

02:07:47.800 Don't worry, guys.

02:07:48.400 We're not going to watch all five hours.

02:07:49.620 What I did was I went ahead and summarize the most important parts for you guys.

02:07:53.320 So you guys can enjoy and get all the information that you need to get.

02:07:55.920 That's pertinent.

02:07:56.620 Okay.

02:07:56.880 The clowning was relaxation.

02:08:00.660 Okay.

02:08:01.040 Well, you know, I'll play this part here.

02:08:02.280 He talks about being a clown, uh, and why he did it.

02:08:05.100 So, um, I'll give you guys a little bonus.

02:08:07.300 I was going to play this.

02:08:07.940 Let's play it for me.

02:08:08.960 I enjoyed entertaining kids.

02:08:11.160 Like some people are, uh, you know, they, they unwind in different ways.

02:08:16.780 Either, either we're going out drinking or that I could put on clown makeup and I was

02:08:20.160 relaxed and I enjoyed doing it.

02:08:22.460 I was, uh, twice, it was only twice a month that I did it.

02:08:26.180 Yeah.

02:08:26.300 This was not used then for a lure to, to draw kids to you as, uh, as the, no, we would

02:08:31.300 visit, uh, different hospitals and entertain the children there.

02:08:36.320 And we didn't entertain them with handcuffs or anything like that.

02:08:39.080 All we used was, uh, balloon animals and small toys and stuff like that.

02:08:43.320 But we also did parades.

02:08:44.860 And in the summertime, like a 4th of July, I used to be in four parades in one day.

02:08:49.700 I've always told people when, when I got into clown makeup, I regressed in the childhood.

02:08:54.320 It was fun being a clown because you could, you could, you could be yourself or just let

02:08:58.840 yourself go and act a fool. 0.90

02:09:00.260 You could be slapstick and funny and have a good time.

02:09:03.660 That's why I always enjoyed clowning.

02:09:06.260 Clowning has taken a bad name.

02:09:09.160 I, because of what they've used in my case.

02:09:14.080 Oh my God.

02:09:16.620 Yeah.

02:09:17.140 Yeah.

02:09:17.840 No, clowning, my friend has taken a bad case because you killed 33 plus people while being

02:09:22.400 a clown.

02:09:22.760 And here's the other thing too, guys.

02:09:23.680 He admitted to investigators while he was a clown that the reason why he liked this so

02:09:26.600 much is because he was able to like, you know, smack girls on the ass and get away with certain

02:09:30.600 things.

02:09:30.900 And he even said it, you can get away with murder as a clown because people are thinking

02:09:34.820 like, oh yeah, you know, you're just being funny, being an entertainer.

02:09:37.380 So you can get away with certain things that you would never be able to get and cost them.

02:09:40.100 And I think in a way for him, he was thinking like, yo, you know what?

02:09:45.340 I'm a clown.

02:09:46.100 This will protect me in real life.

02:09:48.580 So, and I think that's why he was so brazen with his murders and got away with it for

02:09:52.280 so long.

02:09:52.820 You know, that was a portion that, that was, I think that went into his mind to think,

02:09:56.940 you know, this is going to keep me from getting caught.

02:09:58.760 There might be, I think there's gotta be some psychology to it too, because in the interview,

02:10:01.940 he just said that he did it because it made him regress, like regress in age.

02:10:08.080 So it probably brought him back to his childhood.

02:10:10.360 And it was almost like he was making it more appropriate, maybe or yeah, making it more

02:10:16.080 appropriate or just like almost creating new memories to block off all the shitty childhood

02:10:21.040 that he had with his dad.

02:10:22.140 I think it's, yeah, there's some, many different, I'm sure it's very complex as to why, but guys,

02:10:28.520 do me a quick favor, like the video, 2.4 K likes.

02:10:31.180 We got 3,100 of y'all watching right now on YouTube.

02:10:33.380 Thank you so much.

02:10:33.860 You could be anywhere else, but you're here with us.

02:10:35.580 All right, let's get back into the video.

02:10:37.420 Now we're going to go ahead into where he makes a confession guys.

02:10:43.360 Okay.

02:10:43.680 So now at this point, they've done the second search warrant.

02:10:45.900 They found the bodies.

02:10:47.640 The walls are closing in on your boy, John Wayne Gacy.

02:10:50.260 Okay.

02:10:50.960 John Gacy was Sam Amorati's first private client.

02:10:54.520 So now he secures defense counsel.

02:10:56.580 Yeah.

02:10:56.800 It was one hell of a way to start your career in private practice.

02:11:01.180 And most of our work, obviously, as surveillance team was outside.

02:11:05.400 So Gacy is in the attorney's office.

02:11:08.980 And the next thing we know, it's three o'clock in the morning or something like that.

02:11:13.500 One of the attorneys comes out the front door and waves Mike over and says,

02:11:17.520 Hey, I know it's super cold out there.

02:11:20.420 Why don't you guys come on in?

02:11:21.900 It's too brutal for you guys to be out there all night.

02:11:23.800 Now, guys, that's a red flag.

02:11:25.480 The defense counsel is letting you guys, because remember, guys, they still have him on a 24-hour surveillance.

02:11:30.580 So they see him go into a lawyer's office.

02:11:32.500 Obviously, they can't go in because it's a privileged environment, right?

02:11:35.620 You can't listen to any private conversations between a suspect and their lawyer.

02:11:39.740 However, the defense counsel comes out and tells you, Hey, it's cold out there, guys.

02:11:44.220 Why don't you guys come in?

02:11:45.160 So at this point, they're probably like, What the fuck?

02:11:47.680 Sun's off here.

02:11:48.520 Why are y'all inviting us in?

02:11:49.680 What?

02:11:50.220 We're the ops.

02:11:51.920 What the fuck?

02:11:52.920 So let's see what happens here.

02:11:55.820 A clown slapped my girl's back. 1.00

02:11:56.940 You're catching hands.

02:11:58.380 That's Isaiah.

02:12:00.520 Denny Ace, in years of being law enforcement, do you have any modern-day serial killers you dealt with?

02:12:03.800 I really can't think of any modern-day seros.

02:12:05.620 I was fed, guys.

02:12:06.460 Feds don't investigate serial killers. 0.61

02:12:07.980 That's typically the local police.

02:12:09.740 The feds only come in maybe to give some assistance, but the local police almost always handle serial killers and premeditated murder.

02:12:17.300 Hey, Maher, I'm showing my support between Ben W. with FNF since 11, 2020.

02:12:23.140 Okay, so it's November 2020.

02:12:24.320 Admire your discipline, hard work, by the way.

02:12:26.140 Tell Chris I want my $10 refund.

02:12:27.640 LOL.

02:12:28.040 Greetings from Boston.

02:12:28.880 I appreciate that, bro.

02:12:33.860 Seeing what led up to this point, we talked to each other and said,

02:12:37.480 you think maybe he confessed to his attorneys, and they're a little concerned that they're in there with him all by himself.

02:12:43.000 So they're even freaking out.

02:12:44.660 Like, why are they calling the police in?

02:12:46.440 So they go in.

02:12:48.480 And that's a darn good possibility.

02:12:51.660 So we decided, okay, we'll come in there under one condition.

02:12:55.260 We have to be able to see Gacy.

02:12:57.820 So they get us a couple of chairs, whatever you guys want, we'll get for you.

02:13:02.340 They bring a bottle of booze out here, have a drink on us.

02:13:04.920 And I just couldn't do enough for us.

02:13:06.820 And we still hadn't seen Gacy.

02:13:07.960 The attorneys gingerly bring Gacy out, and it looked like he was the walking dead.

02:13:13.360 His eyes were closed.

02:13:14.560 He was slouched over.

02:13:15.960 And it looked like he was actually sleeping.

02:13:18.280 So he laid him.

02:13:19.060 Mind you guys, he's been under police surveillance forever.

02:13:21.240 He's starting to get stressed out.

02:13:22.600 They're searching his house.

02:13:23.580 They're interviewing him, all this other stuff.

02:13:25.460 You know, he's stressed.

02:13:26.520 He's like, damn, I'm about to go down for this.

02:13:28.140 So, and he's been drinking.

02:13:29.820 So let's see what happens here.

02:13:31.600 On the front couch, we could see him through the glass.

02:13:35.240 And we were talking to the attorneys about what we have seen over the 10 days of following

02:13:39.940 him, that this guy is dangerous.

02:13:43.120 We both had this kind of look on our face and stepped back and said, well, just be careful.

02:13:48.580 Because when he wakes up, you never know what he's going to do.

02:13:50.620 We've been told that he gets very violent.

02:13:52.380 He can hurt people and just very erratic when he wakes up.

02:13:57.500 And I get this very shocked look on their face.

02:14:00.180 Their eyes were like the size of saucers.

02:14:02.780 Believe this or not, the attorney said, guys, if he tries to leave, shoot his tires out.

02:14:08.820 Wait, what?

02:14:09.780 Stupid.

02:14:11.760 Yo, if he leaves, shoot his tires out.

02:14:14.080 That's his defense counsel saying this, guys.

02:14:16.380 So that should tell you guys right then and there that they're probably even scared for

02:14:19.460 this life, for their life.

02:14:21.040 Him coming in probably made some kind of admission, excuse me.

02:14:26.060 Like, yo, I killed a bunch of people, blah, blah, blah.

02:14:27.720 So they're like, what the fuck is going on here, bro?

02:14:30.260 Like, yo, police are outside.

02:14:31.800 Yo, yo, yo. 0.99

02:14:32.080 Can you guys come in real quick?

02:14:33.360 The 70s were wild, man.

02:14:36.920 We can't tell you anything.

02:14:38.460 Stop.

02:14:38.960 Don't let them leave.

02:14:39.820 So there was something very urgent on their minds.

02:14:43.400 Defense counsel saying don't let them leave, bro.

02:14:45.540 By the way, guys, there's only 2.4K likes, but there's 3,100 of you guys watching this

02:14:52.960 stream right now on YouTube.

02:14:54.320 I need you guys to stop being stupid and like the goddamn video.

02:14:57.720 All right?

02:14:58.040 Well, about, I don't know, 7.30 or 8 in the morning, Gacy gets up.

02:15:04.100 He jumps up off this couch, stares straight ahead.

02:15:07.520 He had this wild man look in his eyes, flung the door open, jumped in his car and took

02:15:12.160 off.

02:15:13.460 We were like in hot pursuit on foot to get to our cars so we could follow him and not

02:15:18.380 lose him.

02:15:18.800 So they see his dumb ass just leave the place, run and drive off.

02:15:26.100 So they're like, fuck that.

02:15:26.760 We got to follow him.

02:15:32.000 His first stop was a gas station, a shell station.

02:15:37.680 Goes into the gas station and he's double handshaking and showing some emotion with the

02:15:45.000 owner in case he didn't do that kind of thing.

02:15:47.400 So that was kind of strange.

02:15:48.800 It really looks almost like he's saying his last goodbyes.

02:15:53.380 And at one point he pulls out of, I could see from a distance, look like a bag of marijuana

02:15:58.940 and put it in the pocket of this young man.

02:16:01.560 What the fuck?

02:16:02.740 So he has a, so he has a pot of a bag of weed, right?

02:16:06.560 And guys, mind you, this is the 1970s.

02:16:08.700 So weed is still like very illegal back then, right?

02:16:11.300 It's not like today in today's day and age where like, oh, weed is legalized.

02:16:16.000 Medicinal marijuana.

02:16:16.900 They didn't know none of that shit back in the 70s.

02:16:18.520 They're like, weed?

02:16:19.440 Yo, bro, you going to jail.

02:16:20.960 So he just fucking leaves a bag of weed on some, so this guy's drunk out of his mind.

02:16:25.160 He's fucking going wild right now.

02:16:26.780 So the police actually use this to their advantage.

02:16:29.380 And you guys are going to see here in a second, which by the way, I see 2.5k likes.

02:16:32.720 Get us up to 3,000 guys.

02:16:33.960 Get the engagement up to 90% so I don't got to keep asking.

02:16:36.160 And again, he took off like a madman.

02:16:42.120 We decided Mike would follow Gacy and I would go in the gas station.

02:16:46.680 As soon as I walked in the gas station, this kid took the marijuana out of his pocket

02:16:50.040 and like just about threw it at me and said, hey, I didn't buy this.

02:16:53.280 I didn't ask for it.

02:16:54.760 He just gave it to me.

02:16:55.960 He says he's giving his stuff away.

02:16:57.700 We went from the gas station.

02:17:00.040 We didn't know where we're going.

02:17:00.680 We ended up at David Cram's house.

02:17:02.940 So he pulls up.

02:17:04.200 He goes into Cram's house.

02:17:06.300 They both come out.

02:17:07.580 David Cram comes over to me and asks if it's all right if he drives Gacy's car.

02:17:13.420 I said, I don't care.

02:17:14.020 And that's one of the guys that lived at Gacy's house that, you know,

02:17:16.860 gave him sexual favors and worked for him as well, which that's a whole other story.

02:17:20.160 I won't get into it too much, but that's who that individual was.

02:17:23.520 You got to drive a license.

02:17:24.620 Don't drive like an idiot.

02:17:25.760 You won't have any problem with us.

02:17:27.340 So they drive from Cram's house over to DeLeo's restaurant in the Chicago area.

02:17:33.220 And Gacy goes in.

02:17:36.020 And then all of a sudden, Cram jumps out of his car and comes over to us and says,

02:17:40.660 Gacy just told me he killed 33 kids.

02:17:44.360 Oh, fucking shit.

02:17:46.520 Oh, shit.

02:17:47.180 Oh, shit.

02:17:47.880 Oh, shit.

02:17:48.380 He goes ahead and confesses 33 kids.

02:17:50.940 So that right there gives them even more probable cause.

02:17:53.500 All right.

02:17:54.100 So the guilt is too much to fucking bear.

02:17:57.680 All right.

02:17:58.460 What did I always say?

02:17:59.560 Right.

02:18:01.140 Drunken words or sober thoughts?

02:18:03.460 Amen.

02:18:03.700 Let's keep going.

02:18:07.920 Which, by the way, guys, I don't want to have to do this, but if I don't get the likes up to 3,000, I'm going to have to stop the stream.

02:18:14.580 I really don't want to have to do that.

02:18:16.100 All right.

02:18:16.400 So just like the goddamn video so that we can continue on with this awesome-ass content because y'all are not going to get breakdowns to this degree and this detail anywhere else on the internet.

02:18:25.960 Kevin Terrell, listening while at work, bartending, brother.

02:18:28.000 I'm 15 minutes in.

02:18:28.660 Appreciate these videos.

02:18:29.500 I got you, my friend.

02:18:30.460 I got you.

02:18:31.560 So, yeah, guys, get us to 3,000 likes, man.

02:18:35.160 That's all I ask.

02:18:36.140 90% engagement at all times.

02:18:38.140 All right.

02:18:38.280 Get us to 3,000 so I don't got to stop the stream because this is where it's about to get crazy.

02:18:41.960 And I don't want to stop.

02:18:43.440 All right.

02:18:43.620 Let me refresh the page real quick and see where the hell we're at.

02:18:46.300 So he just confesses that he killed 33 kids to one of his associates.

02:18:50.900 All right.

02:18:52.300 Like the video, guys, or else I'm not going to continue or I'm going to stop.

02:18:55.860 I'll give you all another minute.

02:18:56.880 We're at 2.6.

02:18:57.660 Get us to 3,000.

02:19:05.420 I realize a magnitude of this case at that point.

02:19:08.140 And Cram saying that Gacy's going to try to kill himself.

02:19:15.660 He was going to go to his father's grave at a cemetery.

02:19:19.540 Then he was going to commit suicide.

02:19:23.580 Now, mind you, they're going to use this all later to show that he's not insane.

02:19:26.900 Okay, guys, because they use this later on in trial to say, oh, he's insane.

02:19:30.300 He shouldn't be put to death, et cetera.

02:19:31.860 But this all shows that he feels sorry about what he did.

02:19:34.340 But Dave, obviously, he had a bag of marijuana.

02:19:38.620 So, okay, let's just take him out of marijuana and see what happens from there.

02:19:42.460 Bam.

02:19:43.460 So they go ahead, right, and they're able to use the drug charge, right,

02:19:47.500 possession of marijuana to bring him into jail, which allows them to, you know,

02:19:51.720 bide more time, get a chance to talk to him, interview him, et cetera,

02:19:54.920 maybe get a confession.

02:19:56.280 So him throwing that bag of weed on a random person worked in the police's advantage,

02:20:00.260 which was very stupid on Gacy.

02:20:02.980 Gacy, I pull him out of the car and throw him up against the trunk, you know,

02:20:05.760 and pretty much yell at him that he's under arrest.

02:20:10.260 And that was just for the marijuana.

02:20:14.520 And we knew that the investigators were seeking a second search warrant.

02:20:18.820 And we put handcuffs on him and put him in the back of our car and drove to the station.

02:20:25.560 And shortly after being at the station, Gacy complained of chest pains.

02:20:30.000 So they took him to the emergency room at the Holy Family Hospital.

02:20:33.300 And just so you guys know, this always happens.

02:20:35.460 I'll tell you guys from my personal experience, anytime you fucking arrest somebody,

02:20:38.440 the first thing they say, oh, bro, I got pain, I'm sick, I feel like shit, man.

02:20:43.840 Yo, I'm having a seizure or something like that.

02:20:45.900 They always want to go to the hospital, man.

02:20:47.360 They want to try to, you know, prevent the inevitable, that they're going to jail.

02:20:52.220 They're going to probably spend a significant amount of time there.

02:20:54.880 They fucked up.

02:20:55.520 They're caught red-handed.

02:20:56.460 This always happens, right?

02:20:57.600 I can't tell you how many times where I arrested somebody and they'll be like,

02:20:59.840 bro, I don't feel good.

02:21:00.600 And I got to fucking take them to the jail, to the hospital.

02:21:03.260 Bro, there is nothing worse than taking someone to the hospital.

02:21:08.020 Let me take you guys through a story time real quick.

02:21:12.820 I remember this back like fucking yesterday.

02:21:15.220 Back in like 2016, I arrested this guy for smuggling, right?

02:21:18.820 And we knew he was fine.

02:21:20.260 You know what I mean?

02:21:20.640 He knew he was going to do a significant amount of time.

02:21:22.580 He got caught with a bunch of illegal aliens, some drugs.

02:21:26.520 And one of the other things, too, was that he was caught smuggling minors,

02:21:30.400 which when you get caught smuggling minors, guys, and they're put in an unsafe situation,

02:21:34.680 you get sentencing enhancements.

02:21:36.080 And this guy had already been caught smuggling multiple times before.

02:21:39.480 So he knew he was going to go in for a significant amount of time.

02:21:41.780 And here's the thing with the feds.

02:21:42.760 You don't get good behavior and get out on parole 18 months in.

02:21:46.340 No, you're doing 80 to 90 percent of your time.

02:21:48.220 So this guy knew he was fucked.

02:21:50.020 So after he gets arrested, you know, he does what we call the Mexican heart attack, right? 0.95

02:21:54.220 Remember, I was in Laredo, Texas.

02:21:55.780 And, oh, bro, I don't feel good, blah, blah.

02:21:57.960 So we got to take his ass out of the hospital and take him to the emergency room.

02:22:01.120 And I went in there for hours.

02:22:02.560 And here's the thing.

02:22:03.200 He's a prisoner.

02:22:03.960 So you got to take his ass. 0.75

02:22:04.820 You handcuff him to the chair.

02:22:05.960 You're just sitting there with him babysitting his ass.

02:22:07.860 Everyone's looking at you all crazy, like, what the fuck is going on here?

02:22:10.180 Like, yo, what's going on?

02:22:11.300 Like, what?

02:22:11.720 What?

02:22:11.900 Like, what?

02:22:12.240 What the fuck is going on?

02:22:13.240 What?

02:22:13.800 And you just look wild, right?

02:22:15.520 What the fuck?

02:22:16.840 So he babysitting his ass.

02:22:17.860 Mind you, it's like 2 in the morning.

02:22:19.500 He doesn't get to see the doctor until like 3 or 4.

02:22:22.240 And then he goes, maybe 5, 10 minutes.

02:22:24.720 Oh, he's fine.

02:22:25.320 They do a check on him.

02:22:25.980 He's fine.

02:22:26.500 So I get the clearance.

02:22:27.620 And then I bring him to the jail.

02:22:28.720 And the reason why, guys, is because the marshals won't take the prisoner from you unless they're cleared from a doctor if they tell you that they have issues with them.

02:22:37.460 The marshals aren't going to sit there and do all the checks. 0.75

02:22:39.180 They're like, fuck that shit.

02:22:39.760 We don't want the liability.

02:22:40.880 You go get them cleared and then bring them back.

02:22:42.980 Because anytime you arrest a federal prisoner, the marshals are pretty much the jailers.

02:22:47.200 And they're not going to take the body or the prisoner unless he's of good health because they don't want the liability.

02:22:51.880 So this happens often, guys, where someone is arrested for a serious crime and then they make up some bullshit excuse and want to go to the hospital.

02:22:58.720 So you said Mexican heart attack.

02:23:00.700 Yeah, that's what we used to call it.

02:23:02.040 Man, is that common?

02:23:03.480 That sucks.

02:23:04.120 Yeah.

02:23:05.020 In Laredo, that's what we used to call it. 0.74

02:23:06.640 On behalf of Mexicans, I apologize.

02:23:08.620 Yeah.

02:23:09.060 Yeah.

02:23:09.280 On behalf of all the ways out there.

02:23:12.280 But anyway, let's continue on.

02:23:14.280 Guys, what are we at here?

02:23:15.380 We're at 2.7K likes.

02:23:16.640 Let's see here.

02:23:17.140 Guys, get us to 3,000, okay?

02:23:18.960 Because shit's about to get real here.

02:23:20.720 We're at 2.7.

02:23:22.200 All right.

02:23:22.480 Do I really have to stop the stream right now?

02:23:24.180 Am I going to have to stop the fucking stream, guys?

02:23:25.760 I hope not.

02:23:26.740 You know what?

02:23:27.800 I'm going to stop the stream until you guys get us to 3,000 likes.

02:23:30.900 We got 3,100 of y'all in here.

02:23:32.700 I see 2.8.

02:23:34.000 200 more likes and I'm going to continue the stream.

02:23:35.640 I hate that I have to do this shit, right?

02:23:37.320 If you guys just liked the video from the beginning and your way in, we would be fine.

02:23:40.700 But now I'm going to just have Mia tell you guys a really bad joke. 0.99

02:23:44.420 Go ahead.

02:23:44.700 You got a bad joke for them?

02:23:45.440 Give them a knock on a joke or something.

02:23:46.780 I'm not good at jokes.

02:23:48.800 Women aren't funny. 1.00

02:23:50.140 That's not our thing.

02:23:52.460 What are your thoughts on female comedians? 1.00

02:23:53.920 Do you think they're funny?

02:23:55.160 You know, Ali Wong is the only female comedian that I think is worth listening to.

02:24:00.120 Does she make sex jokes? 1.00

02:24:01.420 Yes, absolutely.

02:24:02.560 That's all female comedians do is make sex jokes. 1.00

02:24:05.420 And it works, I guess.

02:24:06.820 I don't know.

02:24:07.420 I mean, people like to laugh at vaginas. 1.00

02:24:10.020 Fair enough.

02:24:10.380 It kind of works.

02:24:11.240 Yeah, we're having a goddamn intermission.

02:24:12.560 Until we get 3,000 likes, I am not going to like this guy.

02:24:18.160 I'm not going to continue the stream.

02:24:19.680 Oh, someone in here saying W opinion.

02:24:21.100 If you're saying that women aren't funny. 1.00

02:24:23.620 Yes.

02:24:24.060 Just so you guys know, Mia is a raging misogynist. 1.00

02:24:26.560 Okay.

02:24:27.160 She is.

02:24:27.920 She has internalized misogyny.

02:24:29.740 She is a misogynist.

02:24:30.680 All she does is talk shit about women. 1.00

02:24:31.860 She actually thinks women deserve less, more than I do. 1.00

02:24:33.880 That's not true.

02:24:34.700 Hey, you're going to break my client relationship.

02:24:39.580 Oh, man.

02:24:40.920 Yeah, guys.

02:24:41.460 Like the video.

02:24:42.020 Until we get 3,000 likes, I'm not going to continue.

02:24:44.080 I see 2.9, just 100 more.

02:24:45.800 And then we will continue on with the stream.

02:24:47.740 I hate to have to do this.

02:24:49.420 But this is what we've come to because people don't appreciate the content.

02:24:52.780 It takes a lot of time.

02:24:53.340 We're at 3K?

02:24:54.460 Hold on.

02:24:54.780 Let me refresh the page real quick.

02:24:55.840 Someone in the chat put 3K.

02:24:58.500 Let's see here.

02:24:59.920 No, we're at 2.9, bro.

02:25:00.960 I don't see 3,000.

02:25:02.460 Once we hit 3,000, I'll continue on.

02:25:04.000 So, 3,000 of my ninjas.

02:25:06.200 So, you guys that are over there watching on Twitch, go ahead and open up a YouTube tab.

02:25:09.080 Hit the like button real quick.

02:25:10.680 And then we'll keep going.

02:25:11.940 And the reason why I'm live on Twitch, guys, is in case YouTube takes down my stream, we'll

02:25:15.560 be able to, you know, keep going.

02:25:18.740 Are we at 3K?

02:25:21.740 Nope.

02:25:22.140 Still at 2.9, guys.

02:25:24.860 Danny XO goes, L chat, y'all lame as fuck.

02:25:28.500 Yeah, I don't know why people just don't like the video, bro.

02:25:31.500 It's very, very simple.

02:25:32.780 Just like the video.

02:25:33.340 And, you know, we'll continue on.

02:25:37.480 Does she need a green card? 1.00

02:25:41.420 No, I'm the anchor baby.

02:25:43.540 She's, yeah.

02:25:44.480 Oh, yeah, you are the anchor baby, aren't you?

02:25:45.900 I gave everyone the green card.

02:25:46.880 She's the one that got them the card.

02:25:48.820 She is the card.

02:25:50.340 She is the card.

02:25:51.360 Still at 2.9K likes, guys.

02:25:54.740 Still at 2.9K.

02:25:56.000 We need 3,000, man.

02:25:56.900 I hate doing this, man.

02:25:58.380 I might have to start playing some annoying dial-up music as the late, great Kevin Samuels

02:26:03.480 used to do back in the day.

02:26:04.480 Let's see here.

02:26:07.220 I see 2.9.

02:26:09.340 All right.

02:26:09.860 We hit 3K.

02:26:10.800 Fantastic, man.

02:26:11.440 Don DeMarco.

02:26:12.020 Don DeMarco.

02:26:14.440 All right.

02:26:14.660 So they arrest John Wayne Gacy, guys, right, for marijuana possession.

02:26:17.540 And then he says, yo, I feel like shit.

02:26:19.700 I need to go to the hospital.

02:26:20.740 Let's see what happens next.

02:26:21.940 They told him at the hospital, just give him the whole screening.

02:26:24.660 Whatever you got to do, they wanted him there as long as they could until they got to executing

02:26:31.560 of the second search warrant.

02:26:34.520 Mike stays back at the station.

02:26:36.260 I go up to sit with Gacy.

02:26:37.900 And not long after we were there, he said, hey, here's a call for you, Dave.

02:26:41.360 So I got on the phone.

02:26:42.840 It was...

02:26:43.280 Because they have to babysit him while he's at the hospital, right?

02:26:45.180 So they're doing the second search warrant, guys, while he's simultaneously at the hospital

02:26:49.440 with Gacy, right?

02:26:50.280 So watch this.

02:26:52.320 And Kozmazak over at Gacy's house.

02:26:54.640 And they said, hey, we just executed the second search warrant.

02:26:57.720 We went into crawl space.

02:26:59.080 And the very first shovel of dirt that we dug into, we found bones down there.

02:27:05.060 Human remains.

02:27:06.640 Oh, shit.

02:27:08.000 Oh, shit.

02:27:08.700 Oh, shit.

02:27:09.360 Oh, shit.

02:27:09.960 So at that point is when I arrested Gacy for murder.

02:27:13.520 Gacy had been a successful...

02:27:15.140 And this happened, I think, on December 21st, guys, is when they arrested him officially

02:27:19.240 for murder, or 22nd.

02:27:20.460 I'm going to double check real quick.

02:27:21.320 It was the early morning hours, I think, of the 21st or 22nd.

02:27:23.920 Building contract...

02:27:24.960 A volunteer for the local Jaycees who entertained children as Pogo the Cloud.

02:27:29.640 He is charged with murder.

02:27:30.680 Killed as many as 32.

02:27:32.200 This grim investigation is expected.

02:27:33.960 It's almost a sense of being in shock.

02:27:36.540 And disappointment.

02:27:37.920 We were so hopeful that somehow Rob Peace, you know, he found a life somewhere.

02:27:44.060 But at this point, we realize...

02:27:45.420 All right, December 21st, 1978.

02:27:47.080 So 10 days after Rob Peace's disappearance, they went ahead and arrested him for murder,

02:27:52.080 guys.

02:27:52.340 Originally for marijuana.

02:27:53.760 And then while they're there babysitting him at the hospital because he had this little

02:27:56.440 heart attack or whatever, Kozmazak calls up the other guy and tells him, yo, we found

02:28:01.300 bones at the residence, and then, bam, they're able to officially arrest him for murder.

02:28:05.740 A.K.A.

02:28:06.520 Gotcha, bitch! 1.00

02:28:07.680 You know, that wasn't going to happen.

02:28:10.520 Certainly there was a cost of Gacy's early release from prison in Anamosa because had

02:28:16.160 he done his full sentence, he would have been in prison until 78.

02:28:20.820 The crimes never would have happened, and there would have been a lot less people that

02:28:28.900 would have been affected by John Wayne Gacy.

02:28:32.660 Gacy's dark secrets.

02:28:34.060 The fact that this was a house of...

02:28:35.800 King Life goes, imagine my arm pissed as fuck staring at you for five hours in the

02:28:38.580 hospital.

02:28:38.880 Bro, yo, you don't even know, man.

02:28:40.700 That shit...

02:28:41.720 L, L, L. I would be mad as hell just sitting there, and then the doctor clears him in like

02:28:47.340 five minutes.

02:28:48.420 So I'm just like, fuck.

02:28:50.020 Yeah, man.

02:28:50.460 There's been so many times where I had to babysit prisoners at the hospital, bro.

02:28:53.020 It was the worst.

02:28:54.020 Death, a house of horror.

02:28:55.880 Was not known.

02:28:56.600 They have found the decomposed remains in the dirt crawl space underneath Gacy's house.

02:29:02.380 They expect to find many more.

02:29:04.760 The minute authorities realized that there were bodies buried and they started prying up

02:29:10.380 the floorboards, that's when the secrets of John Wayne Gacy started to pour out of that

02:29:16.480 house.

02:29:16.860 Now, when the search warrants were affected in your case, they did find an awful lot in

02:29:30.220 the crawl space of your home, did they not?

02:29:32.360 Well, yeah.

02:29:33.100 I had offered to sell...

02:29:34.080 All right, let's see his response to this, guys.

02:29:35.880 This is fucking ridiculous what he's about to say.

02:29:39.080 What?

02:29:40.880 Let's get into it.

02:29:41.480 What the fuck?

02:29:42.640 ...in the house, because I thought there was nothing down in the crawl space.

02:29:45.080 I had never had any qualms about him going down in the crawl space.

02:29:49.100 Well, how many bodies were actually located on the property and where?

02:29:52.940 To my understanding, there was a total of 29 bodies or 28 bodies were found on the property.

02:30:00.840 26, 27 of them under the house.

02:30:02.940 And the rest?

02:30:04.300 One was under the driveway.

02:30:05.500 One was under the garage.

02:30:06.440 So that makes a total of 29.

02:30:08.840 Okay.

02:30:09.580 Now, from the standpoint of the arrest, when you were arrested in this matter, this was...

02:30:14.520 It snowballed.

02:30:15.220 It snowballed.

02:30:16.640 Okay.

02:30:17.060 What was the date of that?

02:30:18.420 It was 26 of them in the crawl space.

02:30:20.600 Arrested your call?

02:30:22.380 December 22, 1978 is when I was arrested.

02:30:24.960 And he's over here saying, yo, I didn't...

02:30:32.120 Well, he's saying December 22, the records are saying December 21.

02:30:35.560 It doesn't matter.

02:30:36.140 Either way, it was the 21st, 22nd, pretty much the same thing.

02:30:39.900 And on or about, right?

02:30:41.440 That's how we look at it in the legal format when we say something happened.

02:30:44.700 But he says, yo, I don't know how they got there, which goes to show you guys how ridiculous he is.

02:30:49.240 And there's zero remorse.

02:30:50.020 He's just talking about it so casually.

02:30:51.240 Older and...

02:30:55.960 Okay.

02:30:56.980 So real quick, I want you guys to...

02:30:59.340 We're going to talk real quick about how he killed his victims.

02:31:02.240 Okay, guys?

02:31:03.500 And the way he did it, man, was pretty goddamn evil.

02:31:07.560 He used to call it the rope trick.

02:31:09.160 Okay?

02:31:09.660 And I'm going to go ahead and show you guys a clip of this right here.

02:31:17.960 Knots in general. 0.99

02:31:19.560 Catch his sense of humor.

02:31:21.820 Shoelaces, huh?

02:31:22.640 You're in trouble now.

02:31:24.660 Aren't you afraid sitting that close to me?

02:31:26.380 What the hell?

02:31:26.800 Oh, this is too long.

02:31:28.520 I don't need it this long.

02:31:29.960 Pause, Mo.

02:31:31.080 Shut up to the big Mo in the house, by the way. 0.99

02:31:35.000 With the suspect comment.

02:31:36.220 Okay.

02:31:40.680 I had a rosary, which I carried in my pocket.

02:31:45.060 I've always carried a rosary.

02:31:45.980 It was my communion rosary.

02:31:49.360 They said, well, what kind of a knot do you use?

02:31:52.300 They said, what do you mean, knot?

02:31:53.100 When I tie things up, I said, depending on what I'm using it for, I said, the only thing

02:31:58.560 I ever learned from Boy's house is a tourniquet knot.

02:32:01.700 He said, well, show us what that is.

02:32:02.920 So I took, at that time, and again, it's together, but in order to demonstrate it here, I took...

02:32:09.720 And sorry, guys, for the sound, but, you know, obviously, this is an old-ass video.

02:32:12.780 The rosary, and I said, well, here, you put it around.

02:32:15.440 It's hard trying to do this.

02:32:17.460 Why don't you put your hand out?

02:32:20.280 Okay, here.

02:32:20.760 Oh, hell nah, bro.

02:32:22.020 I'm on...

02:32:22.680 I'm good.

02:32:25.380 I'm...

02:32:25.820 Nah, bro.

02:32:26.600 I am good.

02:32:27.420 I'm not...

02:32:28.020 Nah.

02:32:28.640 Hell nah.

02:32:29.240 You know that anchor was fucking like, uh, what am I doing right now?

02:32:33.540 What?

02:32:35.220 Oh.

02:32:35.700 Yo! 1.00

02:32:36.020 What I told him, I said, here, all you do is you wrap it around, you put one knot in

02:32:41.420 it, and I said, then you put a second knot in it, okay?

02:32:46.020 I said, then you take a stick and stick it in here, and you just turn this, and I said,

02:32:50.880 because this is a tourniquet.

02:32:52.320 I said, that's the only knot I ever learned.

02:32:54.400 Precisely the kind of knot found on the ropes, wrapped around the necks of the victims found

02:32:59.200 under the house on Somerdale.

02:33:00.600 Yeah, so he used to use a tourniquet knot, guys, on his victims, right?

02:33:07.280 And, uh, it was what he learned when he was a Boy Scout, and basically, just turn it like

02:33:11.520 this and tighten it, and one of the creepy things he would do, guys, is he would recite

02:33:15.540 this Bible verse right here, and it's, uh, I don't know if I'm pronouncing this correctly.

02:33:21.040 You're the resident Christian here, right, Mia?

02:33:22.960 Is it in Spanish?

02:33:23.860 It's Psalm 23.

02:33:26.300 Psalm.

02:33:26.720 You mean Psalm?

02:33:27.440 Psalm.

02:33:27.740 Okay, my bad.

02:33:28.600 I'm Muslim, bro.

02:33:29.540 That's my excuse.

02:33:30.420 I don't, I don't know this stuff, but it goes here.

02:33:33.020 This is what he would recite when he would kill them, guys.

02:33:34.520 So when he's putting the tourniquet knot on their hands and on their neck to kill them,

02:33:38.780 right, drowning them, doing all the crazy things that he would do, he would recite this verse.

02:33:42.980 The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want.

02:33:45.540 He maketh, um, he maketh me lie, sorry, he maketh me to lie down in green pastures.

02:33:51.980 He leadeth me beside the still waters.

02:33:54.220 He restoreth my soul, he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

02:34:00.160 Yeah, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for thou art with me.

02:34:06.380 Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.

02:34:09.000 Thou preparest the table before me in the presence of mine enemies.

02:34:12.440 Thou anointest my head with oil, my cup runneth over.

02:34:16.260 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life, and I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever.

02:34:25.260 And he would typically recite this verse, guys, as he was killing his victims.

02:34:29.120 It sounds like that's him asking for forgiveness.

02:34:31.640 Like, that's kind of what that is.

02:34:33.120 Is that what it is?

02:34:33.900 I mean, it's not asking for forgiveness, but it's almost saying that he is submitting to God.

02:34:39.960 Yeah.

02:34:40.140 Like, almost.

02:34:40.980 As he's committing one of the worst sins you can commit.

02:34:43.320 Exactly, yeah.

02:34:43.920 Right?

02:34:44.240 So, fucking L for him, reciting Bible verses while killing innocent individuals. 0.97

02:34:50.820 He maketh me gag.

02:34:52.040 Yeah.

02:34:52.680 Yeah.

02:34:54.420 Evil Boo goes, Maren, the feds are so clever. 1.00

02:34:56.360 I caught a human traffic case when I was younger, and my own public defender brought in a fed to interview me.

02:35:00.560 The only reason I noticed was because of my knowledge.

02:35:02.340 Feds always win. 1.00

02:35:03.040 Hashtag Goku.

02:35:04.620 Okay.

02:35:05.720 All right.

02:35:08.160 So now, guys, we're going to go ahead and get into the trial.

02:35:10.540 So now that you guys know, and that was his methodology, guys.

02:35:13.560 He would basically, you know, invite people that work for him, male prostitutes, people that came from disheveled backgrounds, you know, to his house on the promise of drugs, alcohol, marijuana.

02:35:23.720 And he would, you know, either do, you know, the tourniquet trick where he would tie them up with ropes, or he would do the handcuff trick, right?

02:35:31.000 Because, remember, he was a clown, and he was lying in an interview saying, like, oh, I don't do the handcuff trick with kids at the hospital.

02:35:35.700 No, he obviously used to do that handcuff trick at the hospital.

02:35:38.220 And what he would do is he would lure the people to his house, show them the handcuff trick while they're drunk.

02:35:42.940 Remember, these people worked for him.

02:35:44.580 They trusted him.

02:35:45.460 He used all these different factors and traits about himself to be more trustworthy.

02:35:49.760 Oh, I'm involved in politics.

02:35:51.080 Yo, I donate to charity.

02:35:52.340 Oh, I'm a clown.

02:35:52.900 I donate my time to sick kids at the hospital.

02:35:54.760 Oh, I'm your boss.

02:35:55.580 You know, I run a very reputable business.

02:35:57.640 You know, he had pictures of himself with politicians at his home.

02:35:59.740 He had all these traits that made him seem like a trustable person.

02:36:03.640 So, you know, 16, 17 years old, that's your boss.

02:36:06.880 He wants to have some beers with you.

02:36:08.000 You don't think that he's a raging homosexual serial killer.

02:36:11.080 So, he's like, yo, let me show you this trick that I used to run with the kids at the hospital.

02:36:14.600 You know, he gives you the handcuffs.

02:36:15.940 He put the handcuffs on himself first, and he would be able to get himself out of the handcuff.

02:36:20.600 But he kept a key in his hand, right?

02:36:22.840 And he would keep it in one of his fingers, right?

02:36:25.560 Then he would do the trick on the guy, but he would never unhandcuff him.

02:36:28.940 And that's when the abuse started.

02:36:30.200 He would handcuff them, and then from there, torture, abuse, and rape them for hours on end, sometimes day on end, and then eventually strangle and kill them.

02:36:38.740 And then he would recite that verse that I read to you guys as he was killing the individuals, which he was a six-sadistic individual.

02:36:45.560 But that's what he did, guys.

02:36:48.460 You know?

02:36:48.680 So, now we're going to fast forward to the trial, okay?

02:36:52.640 February 6, 1980, guys, is when he goes on trial for the state, right?

02:37:00.180 So, let's go ahead and pull this bad boy back up, and we're going to go ahead and fast forward to 248.

02:37:06.360 I told you guys, man, I did all the research here, so you guys don't have to worry, all right?

02:37:10.120 This is going to probably be one of the best summaries of the John Wayne Gacy case you guys are going to find anywhere else on the internet.

02:37:15.680 And I'll make sure that I put timestamps for y'all so you guys can enjoy this thing on the replay.

02:37:20.080 So, do me a favor.

02:37:21.460 Like the video.

02:37:22.960 We work hard over here at Fresh and Fit slash Fed It.

02:37:26.040 And, yeah, man.

02:37:27.400 Let's keep going.

02:37:29.840 It was very emotional.

02:37:34.280 People sobbing.

02:37:36.240 Most of them were parents.

02:37:38.760 And here they're sitting there listening to testimony on how their child got killed.

02:37:44.580 It's, you know, it's nothing anybody wants to hear.

02:37:49.560 One witness fainted on the stand when the prosecution team showed her a bracelet belonging to her son.

02:37:57.040 You have two years to prepare for this, but I had no clue that we had to go on the stand and identify Gacy.

02:38:07.960 That was very eerie to me.

02:38:11.180 And my dad, the day that he had to get up on the stand, my father kept crying.

02:38:18.960 My mother kept saying, you know, buck up.

02:38:21.360 You can do this.

02:38:22.460 And that was the first or the second date.

02:38:25.160 My dad never went again after that.

02:38:27.420 Obviously, you know, you can only imagine the trauma from facing the murderer of your child that had been gone missing for years.

02:38:37.780 And you're finally able to face him in court.

02:38:39.340 I mean, for some people, that's unbearable.

02:38:41.060 You know?

02:38:41.860 Grown men crying. 0.94

02:38:43.600 And these are all the victims.

02:38:45.440 And, you know, real quick, just so you know, I'll show you real quick.

02:38:47.600 Like, all the victims John Wayne Gacy had, don't make fun of the website, it's all gaylong.com, whatever.

02:38:55.180 I don't know.

02:38:55.800 But for some odd reason, they have all, these are his victims right here, guys, right?

02:39:00.340 And he committed his first murder on honor about January 3rd, 1972 with Timothy Jack McCoy.

02:39:06.280 He stabbed him, guys.

02:39:08.040 And then, you know, obviously the onslaught continued with all these other individuals.

02:39:12.080 And they only identified 28 of the 33.

02:39:15.680 So, rest in peace to all these individuals.

02:39:18.820 Here are their names right here, guys.

02:39:20.440 Okay, you can go ahead.

02:39:21.720 Let me enlarge it a little bit.

02:39:22.880 So, you guys can go ahead and pause the screen if you need to.

02:39:29.000 But, yeah, rest in peace to all these individuals that were murdered by this fucking maniac.

02:39:35.820 All of them were, you know, between...

02:39:37.920 Let's look here.

02:39:39.000 What were their ages?

02:39:39.620 They were all teenagers.

02:39:40.200 Yeah, all teenagers, man.

02:39:41.700 The youngest here that I see is 14.

02:39:43.800 And the oldest I see here was 20.

02:39:46.680 So, yeah.

02:39:48.700 Craziness, man.

02:39:49.480 Craziness.

02:39:51.820 Early on, we were using this big exhibit with three-sided frames to put all the life and death photos in while the victims' parents or whatever were testifying.

02:40:00.920 And after we did five or six of them, the defense objected.

02:40:05.120 Yeah, the reason why they objected was because it was...

02:40:08.540 They're going to...

02:40:09.120 Basically, the argument they're going to make, guys, is that, oh, this is unduly suggestive, which is basically an argument that, like, yo, you guys are, like, going a little bit too hard to, like, get an emotional reaction from the jury and from the witnesses, etc.

02:40:21.220 This makes my client look bad.

02:40:23.200 It's ridiculous for you to put all these victims here.

02:40:25.060 We haven't...

02:40:25.500 You haven't been able to prove that they're necessarily victims yet.

02:40:28.160 This is what the trial is for.

02:40:29.500 So, this is how the prosecution responds.

02:40:32.300 And the judge said, all right, here's the rule.

02:40:36.920 State, if you're talking about a particular victim and you want to use that board, you can have that victim's photo in the board, but none other.

02:40:47.180 When you get to closing arguments, you can do whatever you want.

02:40:51.120 Fine, judge.

02:40:52.560 So, when we finish, we now have a board with 22 empty frames.

02:40:58.580 It looked to me like 22 open graves.

02:41:02.300 There were some victims who were still not identified.

02:41:06.840 We went to trial on all 33 murders, 22 being identified at the time that we went to trial.

02:41:16.540 So, they only knew 22 of them.

02:41:17.880 Obviously, you know, later on with forensics and DNA analysis, etc., they were able to identify 27.

02:41:24.280 But at the time, they only had 22.

02:41:26.440 But some were nameless.

02:41:27.540 We also had the crawlspace opening sought out so we could use this as an exhibit in court.

02:41:35.300 Became one of my biggest tools having that crawlspace opening available as an exhibit.

02:41:40.700 That's a crazy piece of evidence that they were able to use in their advantage to illustrate to the, you know, to the jury.

02:41:46.780 Yo, look at this crazy guy.

02:41:48.220 He had all the bodies under this crawlspace, right?

02:41:50.700 Which would speak to the sadistic nature and heinousness of the crimes.

02:41:55.260 We got here, Evil Boo 417.

02:41:57.480 Myron, do you plan on covering Richard Ramirez, a.k.a.

02:41:59.700 Oh, wait.

02:42:00.040 And he says, also, shout out to Andrew Tate.

02:42:01.240 Yeah, shout out to Andrew Tate.

02:42:02.480 Richard Ramirez, if I'm not mistaken, is that the Night Stalker?

02:42:06.240 Yes.

02:42:06.520 That's the Night Stalker guy, right?

02:42:07.840 I will do him.

02:42:08.600 Don't worry, guys.

02:42:09.040 I will do him as well.

02:42:09.820 I'll be a good one.

02:42:10.440 Yeah.

02:42:11.380 I really enjoy the serial killer streams.

02:42:14.800 John Gacy set a wreck in his chair today, showing no apparent emotion as the prosecution team continued to call parents of the alleged victims.

02:42:22.600 They were naming all the victims.

02:42:25.740 Their pictures were there.

02:42:28.480 And they were going through and putting a name to a face for the jury.

02:42:33.080 And when they got to my brother, Gacy just kind of smirked and chuckled.

02:42:44.720 You know, it's like he was silent the whole time, but with my brother, he laughed.

02:42:50.560 Could you imagine that, bro?

02:42:51.800 You got this fucking evil person laughing when they talk about your deceased brother that had went missing.

02:42:59.440 Yeah.

02:43:00.040 I mean, that would cause rage in me, man.

02:43:02.960 I would turn into Scorpion in that bitch. 1.00

02:43:04.540 Get over here! 1.00

02:43:05.500 It was very difficult to look at him, but I remember seeing him sitting over there.

02:43:17.060 And I kept thinking, boy, you really fooled so many people.

02:43:23.140 I think he thought he would never be caught.

02:43:26.080 Police told the court Gacy became friendly with the police surveillance team, trailed him as part of the investigation into the disappearance of 15-year-old Robert Peast.

02:43:38.640 Gacy and I had this relationship from the surveillance.

02:43:41.360 So he liked that detective the most and opened up to him, which is great when you're able to build rapport like that and people will confess to you.

02:43:48.980 When you're there and you're testifying, you're impacted by what you're saying and you're seeing a reaction to this jury, which affects you too.

02:43:59.600 I mean, because you're answering your questions honestly and describing in detail what John Gacy did.

02:44:06.060 And let me tell you guys something from being on the stand because I testified hundreds of times and they put you under oath.

02:44:13.220 And when you're testifying in cases, especially when it's like crimes that are pretty serious like this, it's very difficult sometimes, right, as an investigator to be able to say the things that you want to say, having the general public there.

02:44:27.700 Because there's certain things that you become desensitized as law enforcement, but when you're in front of regular people and you talk about these things and you see the reactions, it kind of brings you back.

02:44:37.000 It snaps you out of your jargon slash your professionalism and you're like, oh, shit.

02:44:40.560 Like it reminds you as to like a lot of the dark things you see on the job.

02:44:44.820 Because remember, the general public isn't used to seeing what law enforcement is seeing.

02:44:48.760 So I know where he's coming from when he's saying that I'm testifying to these things and looking at the jury's reactions.

02:44:54.740 I feel that.

02:44:55.440 I completely see where he's coming from.

02:44:56.840 And unless you're on the job, you would never understand it.

02:44:59.920 Uh, you can see their reaction.

02:45:04.540 One by one, the witness described how they found the remains of the victims.

02:45:09.240 Some buried on top of others, many with a piece of cloth in the mouth and some with ropes tied around the necks.

02:45:17.220 We did learn at the trial, Casey would do different things to the boys. 0.86

02:45:24.100 And one of the things they said that he would do this trick with cuffs.

02:45:29.020 And I know it came out that he did something with my brother's arms.

02:45:33.200 And that's the trick that I told you guys about with the handcuffs, where he would handcuff himself, you know, that, you know, like his clown trick, pogo the clown trick.

02:45:40.840 But he kept the key secret, right, in his, in his, whether it was in his shirt or he would hide it with it between his fingers.

02:45:47.400 And then he'd be like, look, I was able to get out.

02:45:49.120 Then he would go ahead and put it on the unsuspecting victim.

02:45:52.700 They wouldn't know that he had zero intention of untying that, of, you know, unhandcuffing them.

02:45:57.260 And then, bam, you know, the torture and the, the killing would ensue after that.

02:46:03.680 Put cuffs on him or something.

02:46:05.560 And then he would put something on her so they would pass out. 0.86

02:46:13.880 Casey could have had two personalities, but I don't care.

02:46:17.840 Let's put it this way.

02:46:21.560 I believe somebody has to be insane to do what he did, but that's too bad.

02:46:27.060 You still killed 33 victims.

02:46:30.400 And I don't care if you were insane or not.

02:46:33.640 He was wrong.

02:46:35.420 He was wrong to destroy 33 families.

02:46:42.480 All right.

02:46:43.260 Shit's about to get crazy here in a second, guys.

02:46:45.220 You guys are about to see a survivor story.

02:47:00.220 It was becoming a, you know, a media frenzy for finding anything relating to it.

02:47:12.240 The Chicago Tribune was the first to track me down.

02:47:18.560 So this guy, Anthony Antonucci, is a former employee and survivor from one of Gacy's attacks.

02:47:26.720 This story is fucking crazy, guys.

02:47:29.380 All right.

02:47:29.640 So grab your popcorn and listen to this one.

02:47:33.220 And they interviewed me at the time.

02:47:38.540 I believe the police read the story in the Tribune and brought me in for questioning.

02:47:44.420 At some point, they told me that they would like me to testify, you know, as a prosecution witness.

02:47:50.220 The victims who survived their encounters with Gacy became a crucial piece of the case against him.

02:47:59.140 And you guys can see our man.

02:48:01.300 28 testifies that Gacy raped and tortured him.

02:48:03.540 So there were some survivors.

02:48:04.940 They described, you know, indescribable events.

02:48:11.780 I came out, sat in, got sworn in, did what I did.

02:48:16.760 My testimony was that one time in 1976.

02:48:22.320 John came over in the evening.

02:48:25.260 I was closer to 17 at that point.

02:48:28.740 He knew my parents weren't home.

02:48:30.740 See, he takes advantage of guys that don't have, you know, a strong family.

02:48:35.200 Like, oh, your parents aren't home.

02:48:36.240 Let me try to, you know, you know, hang out with you and do some nefarious activities.

02:48:43.980 It was about 1030 at night.

02:48:47.080 He said he had he had some stag films.

02:48:51.720 That's what they called them.

02:48:52.820 And it was on.

02:48:53.560 He had a little.

02:48:56.520 He brought that in and he set that up.

02:48:59.140 And then something he did, you know, he knew I was a high school wrestler.

02:49:03.680 So he said, yeah, come on, big wrestler guy.

02:49:06.320 He started wrestling around with me.

02:49:10.740 And at one point, he gets a handcuff on one of my wrists.

02:49:15.980 Oh, shit.

02:49:17.820 So he gets a handcuff on one of his wrists, man.

02:49:20.620 So at this point, obviously, you know, you can imagine your adrenaline is fucking pumping.

02:49:24.980 Right?

02:49:25.520 Like, what the hell is this guy trying to do?

02:49:27.120 I fought valiantly, but he did get my other wrists and handcuff and he knocked me down

02:49:34.540 to the floor.

02:49:36.300 And just so you guys know, Gacy is about five foot eight, 200 plus pounds.

02:49:41.220 He's not small.

02:49:42.600 OK, he's a big individual.

02:49:44.600 He's fat as fuck.

02:49:45.380 So obviously, with his weight alone, he has some strength behind him.

02:49:48.480 He unbuttoned my pants and pulled him down a little bit, but not my underwear.

02:49:54.900 And then he left the room.

02:49:57.040 And because I was fighting when he was trying to get that second cuff on me, I noticed that

02:50:03.260 it wasn't very tight.

02:50:04.920 So I was able to pull my hand, you know, quite painfully to get it.

02:50:12.140 I actually got out of the cuff.

02:50:15.800 Scrape the skin in the process, but he got out the goddamn cuff.

02:50:18.860 And he came back into the room a couple of minutes later and I hit him with a double leg

02:50:28.380 takedown, a wrestling move and just dropped him right to the floor. 0.82

02:50:33.660 Get it.

02:50:34.240 I kept my weight on his back to keep him down.

02:50:38.480 I reached in his pocket and I got the key to the handcuffs and I got his arms behind him

02:50:44.720 and cuffed him.

02:50:45.460 And he's laying face down on the floor, handcuffed behind his back.

02:50:49.860 I let him stay there for a little while and made sure he calmed down.

02:50:54.140 And then I unhandcuffed him.

02:50:56.020 And to be perfectly honest with you, I think I freaked him out a little bit.

02:50:59.860 And then he said, you know, a very unique thing.

02:51:02.460 He said, and I'll quote, he goes, you're the only one that not only got out of the handcuffs,

02:51:07.940 you got them on me.

02:51:11.260 Hey, Don DeMarco.

02:51:16.120 He went from Antonucci to Wantonucci right there.

02:51:20.820 W for him.

02:51:22.240 Part of my calm response to it was that at that point I had a very optimistic view of humanity.

02:51:29.080 He could have done something to overpower me.

02:51:32.460 And, and continue on, but he didn't.

02:51:35.840 And I, I thank God for that.

02:51:38.080 Certainly he gets this in his mind to do this and he's going to, you know, uh, rape you and

02:51:44.100 kill you and all these kinds of things. 0.80

02:51:45.860 And then something happens that snaps them back to, you know, the more normal personality.

02:51:51.420 I suppose in retrospect, getting out of the handcuffs, the first thing I should have done

02:51:55.640 is just run like hell.

02:51:56.760 Now, remember guys, keep in mind, right?

02:52:00.180 We know that John Gacy is a crazy, deranged, homosexual serial killer, but he didn't know 1.00

02:52:05.500 that.

02:52:05.700 Remember guys, this was happening in 76.

02:52:07.440 This was well before anyone went missing.

02:52:10.080 There was any type of police reporting that he was out here killing people.

02:52:12.940 So in his head, he just thinks it's my crazy boss.

02:52:15.860 That is acting like a fucking weirdo trying to put handcuffs on me.

02:52:19.080 He didn't know that he was a serial killer at this time, which is why he unhandcuffed

02:52:22.880 him and tell him, Hey, you done blah, blah, blah, et cetera, because he didn't know what

02:52:26.460 John Gacy was doing at this time yet.

02:52:28.700 Okay, guys, we know, right?

02:52:30.300 2020 hindsight.

02:52:31.200 But back then he didn't know.

02:52:32.660 He just thinking his boss is getting drunk and a horny weirdo.

02:52:35.720 So, but if I guarantee you, if he had known that this guy was doing all this crazy shit

02:52:40.760 back then, he would have probably called the police, went to the police, et cetera, but

02:52:44.140 he didn't know all this guys at the time.

02:52:49.320 Oh, hold on.

02:52:50.180 Let me pull the doc back up.

02:52:55.480 A lot of the early witnesses had already testified by the time I got there on the 25th of February.

02:53:02.820 And all right, so we're going to fast forward guys here to the verdict.

02:53:06.640 Okay.

02:53:08.280 And that.

02:53:13.960 Now reached a decision in the trial of John Wayne Gacy, accused of killing 33 young men

02:53:19.540 and boys.

02:53:20.120 And we do not know what that verdict is because they are calling both sides back into the courtroom.

02:53:25.340 Now we've been a trial and jury selection for seven weeks, six weeks trial.

02:53:30.160 So they're on trial for a month and a half guys.

02:53:32.820 And real quick, just want to give you guys a Don DeMarco in the chat.

02:53:37.200 We got 3,100 of you guys watching right now on YouTube alone.

02:53:39.840 And then we got another two or 300 of you guys watching on, on Twitch and we got 3.1k

02:53:43.940 likes on YouTube.

02:53:44.500 So thank you so much.

02:53:45.360 We're pretty much a hundred percent engaged on YouTube.

02:53:47.480 So let's continue this bad boy.

02:53:49.120 Two hours was pretty quick.

02:53:51.800 Oh, so they only deliberated for two hours.

02:53:53.560 Normally this is a bad sign, but let's see what happens.

02:53:55.580 When a jury comes back fast, the rule of thumb is that it's a not guilty.

02:54:02.900 So I was pretty terrified when we walked back to the courtroom.

02:54:06.880 And of course, when they actually read the verdict, I mean, that's just the best.

02:54:15.040 It took the jury of seven men and five women less than two hours to find...

02:54:18.840 Hey, W fucking jury. 1.00

02:54:22.260 Gacy is guilty of 33 deaths.

02:54:24.360 In the end, the prosecutors managed to prove that Gacy did so many things to try and cover

02:54:42.320 up what he did, that he was so careful and so calculating about it, that he was absolutely

02:54:48.140 sane.

02:54:49.040 It was an emotional time.

02:54:50.260 Yeah, because what Gacy tried to do, guys, during trial was what he tried.

02:54:53.780 He tried to plead insanity, right?

02:54:55.920 And it didn't work because they were able to demonstrate, yo, you took all these deliberate

02:55:00.540 steps to conceal your criminal activity.

02:55:03.180 Therefore, you are not insane.

02:55:05.000 So one more time, W for being able to come back in only two hours with a guilty verdict

02:55:13.320 on 33 different murders.

02:55:16.120 And for relatives of the victims and many like Ken Peast, whose brother was killed.

02:55:20.260 They want revenge.

02:55:21.380 There's only one solution now.

02:55:23.320 What is that?

02:55:24.420 I want him to see him blow the chair.

02:55:26.500 And Eugenia Gotzik, mother of another victim, cheerfully agreed.

02:55:30.060 I hope he does get the electric chair.

02:55:32.240 Then that'll make everybody feel better.

02:55:34.140 I'm sure it'll make the other mothers feel better, too.

02:55:36.500 I remember saying, thank God.

02:55:40.260 And it's not over yet.

02:55:45.240 There will now be another hearing, and this same jury will begin deliberating once again.

02:55:50.600 This time, they will deliberate on whether John Wayne Gacy should be put to death in the

02:55:55.700 electric chair.

02:55:56.340 Throughout the trial, there had been constant references to a Jekyll and Hyde kind of syndrome,

02:56:03.820 where because of pills or alcohol, Gacy became this brutal killer, much like the kindly Dr.

02:56:11.300 Jekyll became the brutal Mr. Hyde.

02:56:13.880 And so I actually got the Robert Louis Stevenson book, and I read it again.

02:56:22.100 And so one of the things I did in the argument, so I said, you know, they keep talking about

02:56:30.540 Jekyll and Hyde.

02:56:32.640 I said, I don't know if you read it, but what you learned is that the goodly, kind Dr.

02:56:39.960 Jekyll wanted to study evil.

02:56:42.500 So he invented a potion that he could take that would expose that evil.

02:56:47.640 And he became the evil Mr. Hyde and committed these horrible crimes.

02:56:53.440 He took the potion on purpose because he wanted to know what he was doing when he did it.

02:56:59.020 And he remembered what he did after he did it.

02:57:03.900 And guess what, folks?

02:57:06.040 He enjoyed it.

02:57:07.960 And he did it again.

02:57:09.900 And he did it again.

02:57:11.760 And he did it again.

02:57:13.020 And all he cared about was the godlike decision of who would live and who would die.

02:57:18.420 And John Gacy made that same decision.

02:57:23.900 Robert Louis Stevenson always had a moral at the end of this story.

02:57:27.520 And he used to enjoy killing the people.

02:57:29.920 And he got like a sexual thrill from it, guys.

02:57:32.780 You know, I mean, this is a lot of the times where a lot of serial killers' homicides come from

02:57:38.680 is them being able to enjoy some kind of strange fantasy.

02:57:42.360 I mean, it was the same way with Jeffrey Dahmer.

02:57:44.020 Like, these guys got sexual elation from doing this stuff.

02:57:47.560 You know, it's sick and reprehensible.

02:57:49.600 But, you know, this is why these guys become infamous.

02:57:54.600 Because not many people are capable of doing this crazy stuff, you know?

02:58:00.000 And the villain in Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde paid for his crimes with his life.

02:58:09.120 Bam.

02:58:10.340 So, now we're going to fast forward, guys, to his execution, okay?

02:58:15.300 Which was on May 10th, right?

02:58:20.360 While he was in prison, he did a lot of painting, sold him for money, etc.

02:58:23.100 They became collector's items.

02:58:24.460 But we're not going to necessarily go over that.

02:58:26.540 His last appeal was rejected.

02:58:29.280 I remember him.

02:58:30.020 So, he had appealed a bunch of times, guys, while he was on death row to try to live longer.

02:58:35.060 And they kept rejecting it for obvious reasons.

02:58:37.160 Under what grounds?

02:58:38.220 That he was saying.

02:58:39.280 Or they were just like, they were using anything they could.

02:58:41.660 They were saying like, yo, we need to figure out these paintings.

02:58:43.720 Or, yo, he wasn't in town.

02:58:46.960 Sometimes, when some of these people were murdered, we have receipts that document that he was actually out of the state of Illinois when some of these men were murdered, etc.

02:58:54.200 So, those were some of the grounds that they used to argue against his death.

02:58:59.220 Yeah.

02:58:59.600 Kind of waving me away, saying, we'll talk about it later.

02:59:03.480 As if there was going to be a later.

02:59:07.440 He may have already come to grips with it in his own mind that the appeal was done.

02:59:13.240 On May 10th, 1994.

02:59:14.880 So, this was his execution day, guys.

02:59:16.540 And just so you guys know, there was a scene.

02:59:19.060 I suggest you guys all watch it.

02:59:20.660 I thought it was really well done on the Dahmer Netflix documentary on, I think it was the last episode, where they document, on this day, May 10th, 1994, Jeffrey Dahmer actually ends up getting baptized while John Wayne Gacy is being executed by lethal injection.

02:59:37.980 And they actually, in one of the, in that episode, they actually show Gacy killing an individual, which is a very, it's a very dark part of the document, of the Netflix series, which I suggest you go see.

02:59:53.660 It was actually very well done.

02:59:54.980 I got to give credit to the producers that made that Dahmer Netflix series.

02:59:59.060 But on that episode, for some of you guys that saw it, it was wild, where they show a scene with Gacy killing someone.

03:00:05.600 But, at the end, he ends up being killed on the same day that Dahmer gets baptized.

03:00:11.160 And on that day, interestingly enough, was also an eclipse.

03:00:14.720 So, very, very strange.

03:00:18.720 Night of the execution, I was on the phone with him several times.

03:00:24.400 And at about 11.45, we're talking, and I hear mumbling, and he goes,

03:00:31.900 Okay, my ride's here, gotta go.

03:00:35.600 And that was our last conversation.

03:00:41.160 Kill him!

03:00:41.740 Kill him!

03:00:42.640 Kill him!

03:00:43.660 Kill him!

03:00:44.040 I was there.

03:00:44.720 Look at the people.

03:00:45.280 They didn't give a shit.

03:00:46.020 Kill him!

03:00:46.820 Kill him!

03:00:47.680 That night.

03:00:48.920 The clown's gotta go.

03:00:50.360 See you now!

03:00:51.660 It was an event.

03:00:53.300 Gacy's execution was an event.

03:00:55.960 It's time to die.

03:00:56.820 14 years has been much too long.

03:00:59.100 He deserves to die!

03:01:00.920 There were people from both sides.

03:01:02.500 Yeah, remember, guys, he got convicted in 1980.

03:01:04.680 They didn't actually get around to killing him until 1994.

03:01:08.640 Pro-death penalty.

03:01:10.640 Against death penalty.

03:01:12.520 There were lines of people, miles of people, protesting and kill the clown.

03:01:17.720 The clown goes down!

03:01:19.100 The clown goes down!

03:01:21.860 Oh, my God!

03:01:26.120 Hey, hey, hey! 0.55

03:01:28.320 Goodbye!

03:01:29.920 And frankly, that was upsetting, because if the government is going to take the life of

03:01:35.500 somebody because they've committed a horrendous crime, then it should be something of awe.

03:01:41.360 It should be a calm, solemn event.

03:01:45.480 Well, with all due respect, lady, did John Wayne Gacy kill them solemnly in a calm fashion?

03:01:53.780 No.

03:01:54.100 These people were being strangled while he read Bible verses to them, wearing a clown suit

03:02:00.100 and drugging them, raping them, torturing them, etc.

03:02:04.420 So, I mean, I look at it like they gave him the easy way out with a lethal injection.

03:02:10.500 He got the privilege of picking his last meal and everything.

03:02:14.380 Yeah.

03:02:14.820 Actually, you know what?

03:02:15.500 Real quick.

03:02:15.860 Can you Google what?

03:02:16.680 I think I know what his last meal was, but I want you to read it out to the people real 0.71

03:02:19.780 fast.

03:02:20.860 I know what his last words were as well, which was basically a three-word sentence.

03:02:27.120 He said, kiss my ass was his last words.

03:02:29.520 But yeah, but that's all I got to say is like, did he exercise the same level of respect

03:02:36.320 to his victims?

03:02:36.920 He didn't.

03:02:37.720 So, shout out to the chat saying that they smoke in a Gacy pack.

03:02:42.020 What are you saying?

03:02:42.880 A dozen deep fried shrimp, a bucket of KFC's original recipe chicken, French fries, a pound

03:02:52.680 of strawberries, and a bottle of, I have to click the article to see, I have to scroll

03:02:57.860 through the article, but a lot of shit food. 0.51

03:02:59.720 So, KFC, strawberries, fries, anything else?

03:03:02.720 A bottle of Diet Coke.

03:03:03.900 Bottle of Diet Coke.

03:03:05.060 Okay.

03:03:05.400 Well, why diet, man?

03:03:06.160 Just drink the full calorie shit.

03:03:07.360 I know, right?

03:03:07.900 He's already eating KFC.

03:03:08.760 Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

03:03:09.480 It don't matter.

03:03:10.080 Also, you're about to die.

03:03:11.280 Got to watch the figure.

03:03:13.500 Got to look good for the funeral.

03:03:15.140 Got to have a low calorie diet.

03:03:16.580 Yeah.

03:03:17.600 Shouldn't be cheering and drums beating, and that's not appropriate for the victims.

03:03:24.340 It's not appropriate for anybody.

03:03:26.180 I disagree.

03:03:27.860 I think they probably want him to see him suffer as much as they could, just like he

03:03:31.520 did to his 33 victims who were all young boys.

03:03:34.020 I was hoping that my mother would be alive because she said, oh, I want to be there.

03:03:39.640 I want to be there.

03:03:41.060 And she couldn't.

03:03:42.340 That was sad.

03:03:44.240 Both of my parents had passed away.

03:03:47.160 My mom did not want him to go to jail and, you know, paint and all that.

03:03:52.320 And that's why I felt I needed to be at the execution.

03:03:56.480 But the sad thing was that none of the family of the victims could be in the auditorium when he was being put to death.

03:04:07.480 They put all the victims in a room in a building that was far away from the press, far away from the execution itself.

03:04:18.440 We were watching it on a TV like the rest of America.

03:04:21.480 In my opinion, they had us locked up so we could only see what they and this was the guy.

03:04:28.780 Remember, guys, this is the brother of the guy whose ring was left in John Gacy's house.

03:04:32.860 OK, the ring that they were able to match back to the missing person.

03:04:37.400 This was his brother, John Gacy's brother.

03:04:40.980 He wanted us to see.

03:04:43.900 It was like they didn't want they didn't want us there, period.

03:04:49.820 The first drug is sodium pentothal, which puts you to sleep.

03:04:53.500 Theoretically, if you get it.

03:04:54.600 OK, these are the drugs that they put in the system to for the lethal injection.

03:04:58.240 Enough of that.

03:04:58.960 It can kill you by itself.

03:05:01.040 The second drug is a thing called pancurium bromide, and that causes your breathing to stop.

03:05:08.520 The third drug is the one that stops your heart.

03:05:12.300 And it kept getting delayed.

03:05:14.300 You know, the execution itself, they kept delaying, delaying, delaying.

03:05:18.260 We kept saying, well, what's going to happen?

03:05:20.060 They said, oh, they'll call us when it's over.

03:05:23.200 When Gacy was wheeled into the area where he was to be executed, we left the premises.

03:05:28.620 And they should have the lethal injection.

03:05:32.100 Haram!

03:05:32.740 They should have given him the fucking good old beheading like they do in Saudi Arabia. 1.00

03:05:36.740 And I remember we were watching television and watching what was going on.

03:05:41.260 And, you know, we heard something malfunctioned.

03:05:44.900 They closed the curtains.

03:05:45.880 When the phone rang, they had some complications.

03:05:51.060 Then they rang again and they said, okay, he is now put to rest.

03:05:57.620 And that was it.

03:05:58.380 And we all just looked at each other.

03:05:59.900 And you get up and you go out.

03:06:03.700 It was, it was like bizarre.

03:06:06.680 It was very.

03:06:07.280 Yeah, that's not, you're not really, that's an L right there, man.

03:06:09.760 L fucking, fucking execution.

03:06:13.040 Damn, I miss KFC from Big Mo.

03:06:14.540 Yeah, you can't eat that shit no more, Big Mo.

03:06:16.320 If you do, I'll find out.

03:06:18.220 It's strange.

03:06:19.060 Lady is lucky Abdul didn't get the rocks. 1.00

03:06:20.680 Facts.

03:06:21.060 See, they should have stoned his ass, bro.

03:06:22.560 God damn.

03:06:23.760 And then I know who I'm going to be for Halloween.

03:06:26.400 Are you going to be Pogo the Clown?

03:06:30.180 John Wayne Gacy was pronounced dead at 1258, two minutes before one o'clock this morning.

03:06:35.920 There will be a lot of questions to be asked yet about how this system worked.

03:06:41.000 They began the injections at 1240.

03:06:42.820 Yes, never ignore jury duty.

03:06:44.360 It's super important.

03:06:45.080 That's from Lurch 685, especially if it's a big case like this, guys.

03:06:47.600 You can go to jail, right, if you don't show up to jury duty?

03:06:49.420 Yeah, you can go to jail and or get fined.

03:06:51.640 Now it's dead for 18 minutes.

03:06:54.920 It malfunctioned.

03:06:55.960 Like we said, it was going to malfunction.

03:06:57.680 And he was probably suffocated to death.

03:07:00.200 And I think most people probably would say that that was a good result.

03:07:03.900 They said that he probably felt more pain than they had planned on.

03:07:09.660 And but I know if my mother was there, she would have said that's not enough.

03:07:15.920 One little bit of pain is not enough.

03:07:18.480 The brother $15 goes, will you cover Hamilton, Howard, Albert Fish, late 1800s, early 1900s serial killer?

03:07:24.320 Probably not.

03:07:24.880 But I will probably do Jack the Ripper for y'all.

03:07:26.780 Denny Ace goes, hey, have you covered Gary Ridgway?

03:07:28.620 If not, that would be a good one.

03:07:29.740 By the way, Breath of Fresh Air, you are on Twitch.

03:07:31.800 Keep doing God's work.

03:07:32.700 Salaam.

03:07:33.180 I appreciate that, bro.

03:07:33.920 The reason why I'm on Twitch is because when I do these documentary breakdowns, you never know.

03:07:36.980 Or they might turn my stream off or whatever.

03:07:38.440 So I just wanted to make sure it was documented somewhere for y'all.

03:07:41.080 Only it was finally getting moist before his execution.

03:07:43.720 One more time alone, Gacy, some life alert snatch.

03:07:46.620 OK.

03:07:48.100 I attended the execution as an official state witness and signed the certificate of execution.

03:07:54.740 He got a much easier death than any of his victims.

03:07:59.740 And facts.

03:08:00.680 My opinion, he got an easier death than he deserved.

03:08:04.820 More facts.

03:08:05.640 I'd spend a couple of hours with him.

03:08:10.760 That's his sister.

03:08:12.120 Before they stopped visiting ours.

03:08:16.120 I hugged him and I told him, I said, you know, may God open his arms to you.

03:08:22.400 If you're truly sorry, you need to ask him for forgiveness.

03:08:27.780 No, he ain't sorry.

03:08:28.600 And I don't think I even.

03:08:31.160 All right.

03:08:32.440 So we're going to go ahead and fast forward, guys, to they reopened the case.

03:08:36.860 OK, because they're trying to look for.

03:08:40.640 Remember, they only identified 22 bodies at the time that they that they found the people in the crawl space.

03:08:47.120 And also, I want to let you guys know as well that when they were excavating, right, the home and they were doing a search warrant, they were they were pulling out bodies.

03:08:57.120 Guys, almost every day they were pulling out between one to four bodies over a period of multiple days.

03:09:04.760 It was wild, which is why, you know, it hit national news and it hit the main headlines, et cetera.

03:09:09.460 So, you know, back then this was a big deal, guys.

03:09:13.600 All right.

03:09:14.160 So now we're going to go into the last the second to last chapter here.

03:09:19.480 Them reopening the investigation to identify more victims.

03:09:24.080 OK, guys, and shout out to the police for doing this.

03:09:27.920 Impression that the Gacy case was cleared and closed.

03:09:30.340 The offender was known, was found guilty and the victims had been identified cleared and closed.

03:09:36.020 But it wasn't and it wasn't for lack of trying.

03:09:39.140 You know, my predecessors did what they could to identify every last victim.

03:09:45.800 Doctors and dentists matched bones and teeth against medical records and X-rays.

03:09:50.120 The bodies found under John Gacy's house were simply too decomposed to allow any other means of identification.

03:09:57.980 But in the end, there was eight that were never identified, eight forgotten people.

03:10:04.160 So I took that information to the sheriff.

03:10:09.220 Shout out to them for going and trying to get justice for those people that weren't identified.

03:10:16.740 Back in the 70s, everything was dental records.

03:10:19.080 That was the only way you could identify people chasing.

03:10:22.140 Which, by the way, guys, dental records, DNA, you know, tests didn't exist back then.

03:10:26.460 Dental records were imperative, which is why you guys should watch my breakdown that I did on James Whitey Bulger.

03:10:31.760 James Whitey Bulger used to purposely pull out the victim's teeth after he killed them so that they wouldn't be able to identify the subjects after the fact.

03:10:40.100 When he was running around with the Winter Hill Gang in Boston, killing a bunch of people.

03:10:43.780 All their teeth? 0.56

03:10:44.500 Yeah, he would pull out all their teeth.

03:10:45.540 Crazy.

03:10:46.120 Yeah.

03:10:46.520 Yeah, man.

03:10:46.900 Really, really grotesque stuff.

03:10:48.180 Who is this?

03:10:49.800 John, James Whitey Bulger.

03:10:51.700 I've never heard of him.

03:10:52.460 Crime boss out of Boston.

03:10:53.800 The mafia used to do it, too.

03:10:55.680 So, thankfully, you know, John Wayne Gacy wasn't that smart, and he thought he would never get caught with his hubris, so they were able to get dental records in this situation.

03:11:03.960 And at this point, DNA became a thing.

03:11:06.420 So they're identifying bodies all the way up to 2021, so let's keep going here.

03:11:09.760 Like the video, by the way, guys.

03:11:10.880 We got 3,200 likes.

03:11:11.880 I know some of y'all might have not liked the video yet, so go ahead and like it if you can.

03:11:14.620 I was adamant that, you know, based on new technologies and DNA, that we could make some headway.

03:11:23.080 The point of any cold case is to bring contemporary investigative methods to an old investigation.

03:11:32.720 We knew that in this case, DNA would be helpful.

03:11:38.680 To start, we needed a biological sample from each victim so we could test it in a lab and see if we could get suitable DNA profiles.

03:11:49.840 So the first thing we had to do was go to the bodies.

03:11:54.780 In June, the sheriff's office exhumed the jawbones of eight unnamed victims buried at a Homewood Cemetery.

03:12:00.180 They were originally...

03:12:00.840 Evil Boo goes, Myron, do you think Domro's remorseful for his crimes?

03:12:04.540 No, I don't think any of these serial killers are, guys.

03:12:06.900 You know, they're only remorseful that they got caught.

03:12:09.300 They're not remorseful that they killed people.

03:12:11.820 And honestly, if they didn't get caught, they would continue to kill people.

03:12:14.280 ...to compare to dental records, but contained enough DNA for four complete profiles.

03:12:19.840 In September, bodies were exhumed from four Chicago area cemeteries and samples were sent to labs at the University of North Texas, where additional DNA profiles were extracted.

03:12:28.840 That process got us to where we had, on most of the victims, very good profiles.

03:12:36.220 They were all suitable for comparison to family members of missing persons.

03:12:41.580 And that was really when we launched the investigation to the public.

03:12:46.600 Cook County Sheriff Tom Darth is calling on families who think a loved one may have been a victim of John Wayne Gacy to come forward and offer up a DNA sample.

03:12:54.940 In particular, the Sheriff's Department is looking for relatives of victims who disappeared between 1970 and December 22nd of 1978.

03:13:01.760 Well, right away, the phones and the emails started flowing in.

03:13:06.800 People from all over the country looking for their missing loved one.

03:13:12.060 It was overwhelming.

03:13:13.520 I mean, within a day, you know, we had 70, 80 leads.

03:13:17.020 I never thought it was going to be easy.

03:13:22.320 What I did think, though, it was going to be relatively straightforward in running it out.

03:13:27.660 For the life of me, I had no idea what direction it would take, and I had no idea on how far it would go.

03:13:39.260 Crazy stuff.

03:13:40.160 One of the first leads to come in was a lead.

03:13:55.880 So they did end up identifying a couple of the people, guys, that they weren't able to identify before.

03:14:02.920 That way, you know, we can keep this thing nice and concise.

03:14:05.560 So last thing I want to show you guys is – so one of – so obviously, as you guys know, this guy who is friends with Gacy ended up having some tapes, okay?

03:14:18.520 And I want to play these tapes for you all real fast.

03:14:21.480 He ended up having these tapes since the late 70s slash early 80s when – or 1980 in this case – before he was executed, John Wayne Gacy.

03:14:31.100 So he ends up revealing the contents of these tapes in this documentary.

03:14:35.840 So let's go ahead and listen to some of the excerpts.

03:14:38.460 And I think it's very important for you guys to listen to Gacy talk about his crimes and, you know, the chilling way he speaks of said crimes.

03:14:48.900 So we listen to them.

03:14:50.260 It's Gacy confessing and mostly saying, yeah, I did that.

03:15:04.800 I don't know why.

03:15:07.400 In other words, all the ones you remember seem to be in the house.

03:15:09.900 So, yeah, there is this other person who I think is this lawyer.

03:15:16.260 Those last few were killed in the house.

03:15:18.660 I think all the ones you remember were found dead or killed in the house.

03:15:22.440 For the garage.

03:15:24.220 Killed in the garage?

03:15:26.200 Yeah.

03:15:27.540 Why were the last few dumped in a river as opposed to getting there?

03:15:32.780 Hey, I don't know.

03:15:33.540 Is homosexuality a common factor in a prolific serial killer cases? 0.84

03:15:39.200 I mean, some, you know, not all.

03:15:41.480 Can you take that down real quick?

03:15:42.580 Okay.

03:15:43.140 So he goes – so he asked them why – here, let me rewind a little bit so you all don't miss.

03:15:46.680 We're at 419.

03:15:51.000 The ones you remember seem to be in the house itself.

03:15:54.220 Yeah.

03:15:55.400 There is this other person who I think is this lawyer.

03:15:59.860 Those last few were killed in the house.

03:16:01.500 In fact, all the ones you remember were found dead or killed in the house.

03:16:05.920 For the garage.

03:16:07.700 Killed in the garage?

03:16:09.700 Yeah.

03:16:11.020 Why were the last few dumped in a river as opposed to getting there?

03:16:16.240 I don't know.

03:16:17.880 It is easier.

03:16:18.660 This was probably in early 79 while he was still, like, nervous.

03:16:30.380 You can hear that in his voice.

03:16:32.140 He's not in control.

03:16:33.440 He's upset.

03:16:34.660 I think I killed him.

03:16:35.700 I don't know.

03:16:36.700 Let me think you –

03:16:37.660 Well, he was dead.

03:16:40.060 I think I killed him.

03:16:44.800 I don't know.

03:16:45.560 Guys, like, you can see the lack of accountability, the lack of wanting to take responsibility.

03:16:52.980 Like, well, how else are they going to be dead, bro?

03:16:55.100 Like, what the hell?

03:16:56.620 You know?

03:16:57.060 Like, seriously.

03:16:57.720 So he was just like, uh, they're dead.

03:16:59.220 I guess they're mine.

03:17:00.040 Yeah.

03:17:00.400 What the fuck?

03:17:00.860 Like, is that basically what he was saying?

03:17:02.080 Yeah, essentially.

03:17:03.320 It's like, how the hell did they die, you know?

03:17:05.880 So, you know, it gives you a little bit of insight as to where this guy's mind was at.

03:17:10.520 I don't quite understand why he gave them to me.

03:17:16.020 But, I mean, these tapes, he knew what was on them.

03:17:21.740 He had to have.

03:17:23.180 There is one guy I remember taking out of the house and throwing them in the fourth position.

03:17:28.400 That was two years ago.

03:17:31.480 Took him out of the house?

03:17:32.960 Yeah.

03:17:33.660 They had him in the woods.

03:17:36.180 Why the hell was that getting to me now?

03:17:37.940 Bury him in the woods?

03:17:39.200 No, I didn't bury him.

03:17:40.520 Just laid him in the woods.

03:17:42.500 They just took him out of the woods in the woods.

03:17:46.040 Over by Bain County High School.

03:17:49.820 He took him out of your house?

03:17:51.740 Yeah.

03:17:52.340 He was in Miami.

03:17:53.900 He was convicted of 33 murders.

03:17:57.020 But there were many missing persons or murders that happened during John's active period that could have been his work.

03:18:10.520 There's no reason to think that there's no reason to think that John only killed 33 victims.

03:18:16.480 He had a pattern.

03:18:17.800 He had a pattern.

03:18:18.680 He had a success rate.

03:18:23.200 And he was prolific in everything he did.

03:18:25.680 Yeah, guys.

03:18:32.860 So, clearly, you know, there's probably other victims out there that haven't been identified.

03:18:38.540 Because, like I said before, he preyed on people that, you know, didn't necessarily have strong family structures, were runaways, prostitutes, guys that were, you know, dealing with some maybe financial issues, family issues.

03:18:51.160 And he preyed on them, just like Jeffrey Dahmer did.

03:18:53.940 Trillis, 10 bucks, you should do a video on Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker case.

03:18:56.740 I will be doing that as well in the future, guys.

03:18:58.800 So, don't worry.

03:19:00.400 But, yeah, man.

03:19:01.500 I hope you guys enjoyed that, man.

03:19:03.820 Mia, you got anything for the people?

03:19:04.880 Last thoughts here?

03:19:06.560 Do you know if, is there any sort of conspiracy around him getting out of prison early?

03:19:11.740 Because being a cook or good behavior, like, could not get you that many years off of jail.

03:19:16.800 Like, you can get maybe two years off, but he got a lot of time off.

03:19:20.160 Yeah.

03:19:21.040 Well, back then, they didn't, like, take parole and, you know, that type of thing seriously.

03:19:25.240 So, like, that's why they let him out, even though he clearly was not fit to go back into society.

03:19:31.660 But, you know, it was the 60s.

03:19:33.700 It was a different era.

03:19:34.620 Yeah.

03:19:34.980 You know, they didn't take mental health seriously at all.

03:19:37.860 So, they're like, oh, well, yeah, he'll figure it out.

03:19:40.720 It is what it is, you know.

03:19:42.160 So, back then, it was just very primitive.

03:19:46.520 Yeah.

03:19:46.960 So, that's kind of what it is.

03:19:48.600 And, you know, there's a bunch of conspiracy theories, too, that, you know, there's no way that he could have executed these murders himself.

03:19:53.240 And, you know, there were people that were working on snuff films, and there was a big conspiracy or whatever.

03:19:58.360 But, from what we know, right, from, you know, the evidence that they have, it's very clear that, you know, your boy Gacy was involved in at least 33 murders of young men.

03:20:10.700 Between the ages of 14 all the way up to 20.

03:20:12.800 Twenty-six were buried in his house.

03:20:14.640 Another five were dumped into this plains river.

03:20:18.020 Now, he's even admitting to people potentially being in the forest.

03:20:20.340 So, I honestly think that he probably had more than just 33 victims.

03:20:25.500 It's just that that's probably what he admitted to and what the police were able to identify.

03:20:31.100 But, yeah, man.

03:20:32.480 I mean, wild stuff, wild stuff.

03:20:34.780 So, crazy.

03:20:35.500 Yeah.

03:20:35.760 What a little bit of, like, confusion and daddy issues.

03:20:41.080 Yeah.

03:20:41.320 And bad genetics, full duty.

03:20:43.360 Absolutely.

03:20:44.420 So, yeah, guys.

03:20:45.620 I hope you guys enjoyed this documentary, man.

03:20:47.100 I hope you guys enjoyed this reaction.

03:20:49.060 They didn't take the stream down, which is awesome, right?

03:20:52.160 So, shout out to that. 0.92

03:20:53.440 But, yeah, man.

03:20:54.420 Anything else?

03:20:55.380 Let's see here.

03:20:56.080 I don't think I have any more chats here.

03:20:59.360 And we went for three hours and 20 minutes.

03:21:02.060 Goddamn, man.

03:21:03.020 Fucking Don and Marco.

03:21:04.820 You guys stick with me so long.

03:21:06.180 I hope you guys enjoyed that one.

03:21:07.860 Give me ones in the chat if you guys enjoyed this.

03:21:09.560 If you guys want me to do more breakdowns on serial killers, give me ones in the chat if you guys like this stuff.

03:21:15.260 We still got $3,000 in here.

03:21:16.960 Like the video if you haven't already.

03:21:18.360 Yeah, a bunch of ones.

03:21:19.320 Awesome, awesome.

03:21:20.480 Great.

03:21:21.120 So, tomorrow, guys, we're going to be doing Fresh and Fit Money Monday.

03:21:24.480 We're going to have a special guest in the house, a former detective now turned entrepreneur.

03:21:28.360 It's going to be a great episode.

03:21:29.640 And then we'll have a nighttime show for y'all.

03:21:31.440 And I will drop a documentary video on Thursday.

03:21:35.280 As usual for you guys, I'm going to cover Bin Laden, how the CIA found them, and what they found in his house. 0.68

03:21:40.560 That's going to be a little bit of a longer breakdown as well.

03:21:43.220 But other than that, man, love you guys.

03:21:45.480 Mia, where can people find you?

03:21:47.240 Mia Lily01x on Instagram.

03:21:50.040 Nice.

03:21:50.440 Send your dick pics there, guys. 0.94

03:21:51.340 No.

03:21:53.140 All right, guys.

03:21:53.940 Love you guys.

03:21:54.740 We'll catch you over here tomorrow at 7 p.m. for Fresh and Fit.

03:21:57.300 Later.

03:21:57.780 Take it easy, guys.

03:22:01.120 I was a special agent with Homeland Security Investigations, okay, guys?

03:22:03.920 HSI.

03:22:04.200 The cases that I did mostly were human smuggling and drug trafficking.

03:22:09.660 No one else has these documents, by the way.

03:22:11.820 Here's what Fed it covers.

03:22:13.560 Dr. Lafredo confirmed lacerations due to stepping on glass.

03:22:19.760 Murder investigations.

03:22:20.760 You can't reach him in his jacket.

03:22:21.820 You don't know.

03:22:23.000 And he's positioning.

03:22:23.680 Been on February 13, 2019.

03:22:25.360 You're facing two counts of two meditative murders.

03:22:28.480 Racketeering and Rico conspiracies.

03:22:30.340 Young Slime Life here and after referred to as YSL.

03:22:32.760 This is 6-9.

03:22:34.520 And then this is Billy Seiko right here.

03:22:36.380 Now, when they first started, guys, 6-9 ran.

03:22:38.940 I'm upset.

03:22:39.480 I'm watching this music video.

03:22:41.220 You know, I'm bobbing my head like, hey, this shit lit.

03:22:43.320 But at the same time, I'm pausing.

03:22:44.800 Oh, wait.

03:22:45.240 Who this?

03:22:46.060 Right?

03:22:46.500 Oh, who's that in the back?

03:22:47.440 Firearms and violent crime.

03:22:50.000 A.K.A.

03:22:50.560 Bush IC violated.

03:22:51.860 You're wanting to stay away from the victims.

03:22:53.560 B. Bush IC arrested after shooting at King of Diamonds, Miami strip club.

03:22:56.700 Injured one person.

03:22:57.580 This is the one that's going to fuck him up because this gun is not tracing.

03:23:01.120 Well, it happened at the gun range.

03:23:02.260 Here's your boy, 42 Doug, right here on the left.

03:23:04.520 Okay.

03:23:04.880 Sex trafficking and sex crimes.

03:23:06.480 They can effectively link him to paying an underage girl.

03:23:09.540 I'm going to lock my 50-1.

03:23:10.620 And the first bomb went off right here.

03:23:14.040 Suspect to set down in Baghdad, the site of the second explosion inspired by Al-Qaeda.

03:23:19.140 Two terrorists, brothers, the Zokar Sarnev and Tamerlan Sarnev.

03:23:23.680 When the cartel shipped drugs into the country.

03:23:25.740 This guy got arrested for espionage, okay?

03:23:28.340 Trading secrets with the Russians for monetary compensation. 0.57

03:23:32.480 The largest corrupt police bust in New Orleans history.

03:23:36.720 The days of the police are gone.

03:23:38.500 So he was in this bad boy.

The Debrief With MyronGainesX - October 28, 2022

Fed Explains Serial Killer John Gacy. ＂The Killer Clown＂ That Committed 33 Murders!

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