The Debrief With MyronGainesX - Fed Explains The Great Philly Mob War

00:00:00.720 And we are live. What's up, guys? Welcome to FedReacts. Today, we're going to be covering the Philly Mob you guys have been covering.

00:00:06.080 Well, actually, you guys have been asking for this one for quite a bit. I got a little new intro for y'all. Let's get right into it, man.

00:00:14.080 I'm a special agent with Homeland Security investigations, okay, guys? HSI.

00:00:17.160 This is what FedReacts covers.

00:00:18.580 Defender Jeffrey Williams and Associate YSL did commit the felony.

00:00:21.060 Here's what 6ix9ine actually got.

00:00:22.600 This attack shifted the whole U.S. government.

00:00:25.800 This guy got arrested. Espionage, okay? Trading secrets with the Russians.

00:00:29.660 John Wayne Gacy, a.k.a. The Killer Clown, okay?

00:00:31.980 One of the most prolific serial killers of all time. Killed 33 people.

00:00:35.160 Zodiac Killer is a pseudonym of an unidentified serial killer who operated in Northern California.

00:00:39.240 All these serial killers, guys, they really get off on getting attention from the media.

00:00:44.100 Many years, Jeffrey Epstein sexually exploited and abused dozens of minor girls at his home.

00:00:48.280 It was O.J. working together to get Nicole killed.

00:00:51.500 We're going to go over his past, the gang tie, so that this all makes sense.

00:00:59.660 Cool. Let me know how y'all like that new intro, man.

00:01:03.080 Made some adjustments, you know, talked about the different cases that we cover.

00:01:06.440 It's not two minutes long, so I don't want to hear any complaints.

00:01:09.520 But as you guys know, I'm here with my partner in crime as usual.

00:01:12.480 Angie, why don't you introduce yourself to the people?

00:01:14.300 Hi, guys. Yeah, this is Angie.

00:01:16.120 You guys have seen me for a while here.

00:01:19.520 I just want to address something.

00:01:21.880 I kind of want to apologize for my attitude of the last episode because I was being annoying and like corny and also moody.

00:01:31.980 I was very moody because I didn't like the case.

00:01:35.420 And yeah, I just want to apologize because I was being stupid.

00:01:39.120 So yeah, I also want to address...

00:01:41.280 Yes, stupid. Stupid for two.

00:01:43.460 Yeah, I was just being like annoying because I was annoyed with the case, which is like it doesn't have anything to do with you guys.

00:01:51.380 The documentary was good.

00:01:53.980 I just didn't like the case.

00:01:56.080 Anyways, in my opinion, I was just being like retarded.

00:01:59.920 And also in this internet world, you take five saves and then you take like six back.

00:02:05.120 So it's fine.

00:02:05.860 I also want to address some rumors that you guys have been saying like I'm married.

00:02:11.440 I've never been married.

00:02:12.980 I'm not married right now.

00:02:14.760 Like that's just some stupid you guys took out of content on another video because I was saying something about my dad.

00:02:22.460 And I made the mistake of saying my has instead of saying my dad has.

00:02:26.620 So yeah, you took us.

00:02:27.940 I was saying my husband.

00:02:29.140 But yeah, I'm not married.

00:02:30.140 That's it.

00:02:30.920 Cool.

00:02:31.440 There you go.

00:02:32.160 Uh, yeah, yeah.

00:02:34.660 So I got that out.

00:02:35.880 There she goes.

00:02:36.520 Uh, female taking accountability, man.

00:02:38.100 So that is amazing right there.

00:02:39.260 I'll give her down the month.

00:02:42.360 Because she realizes she fucked up and she was like, yeah, let me, yeah, I gotta, I gotta make this right.

00:02:46.940 So, hey, man, you know, we all make mistakes.

00:02:48.500 No one is perfect.

00:02:49.080 So it is what it is.

00:02:49.780 And, uh, to her defense, guys, she has been going through some things.

00:02:52.340 She didn't want me to say that.

00:02:53.380 I'm not going to say what it is, but some personal stuff.

00:02:55.600 So, you know, you know, life happens.

00:02:57.840 Right.

00:02:58.380 But, uh, but yeah, she definitely didn't mean to come up that way for you guys.

00:03:01.960 And me and her spoke about it off air.

00:03:03.300 So it won't be happening again.

00:03:04.420 Don't worry, guys.

00:03:05.300 Yeah.

00:03:05.580 I do be reading your comments.

00:03:07.240 Like, I read everything you guys write.

00:03:08.980 So I know.

00:03:09.900 I even, like, commented the video.

00:03:11.660 And I said, yeah, I know.

00:03:12.800 Because I know I was being, like, stupid.

00:03:15.180 So, yeah.

00:03:15.740 Stupid again.

00:03:16.680 Yeah, there you go.

00:03:17.500 Stupid.

00:03:18.740 Yeah.

00:03:19.120 But I hope you guys can, like, forgive me.

00:03:21.440 And, yeah, I won't do it again.

00:03:23.200 That's it.

00:03:23.800 And we like making these videos for you guys, man.

00:03:25.420 And Angie does put a good amount of work behind the scenes for these cases.

00:03:28.440 So she really cares, which is why she's emotional about it at times.

00:03:32.000 So it is what it is.

00:03:32.600 But she's a female, guys.

00:03:33.360 You know what it is.

00:03:34.120 You know, bookend stories right now.

00:03:35.220 White women deserve less.

00:03:36.080 So you already know.

00:03:37.240 And she actually, she's pretty much done translating it.

00:03:39.680 So it's going to be out in Spanish very soon for y'all.

00:03:42.140 But today, we're going to be covering something that you guys have been asking for for a bit for a while.

00:03:46.900 And this is something that she actually is interested in, which is the Italian mob out of Philadelphia.

00:03:50.200 So I got a documentary here that we're going to be playing, guys, from FBI Files.

00:03:55.980 As you guys know, it's one of my favorite documentaries.

00:03:58.700 It's older, but it's good stuff.

00:04:00.740 And this covers the Philadelphia Mafia and the Philly Mob War.

00:04:04.560 It kind of wraps everything all up in one shot.

00:04:06.740 So, Angie, you got anything before I get into this thing?

00:04:10.300 Yeah, I really like this documentary.

00:04:11.900 And there is another one that I sent to Martin to watch.

00:04:15.040 If you guys want to check it out, it covers, like, the whole – it's in parts, though.

00:04:19.180 I think it's four parts or two parts.

00:04:20.840 I don't remember now.

00:04:21.780 But I just watched, like, the first part.

00:04:23.400 What's the name of it again, Angie?

00:04:24.860 I think it's Mafia Crimes or something like that.

00:04:27.040 Can you find it real quick so we can put it to other people?

00:04:28.880 Sure, sure. Absolutely.

00:04:29.420 Yeah, sure.

00:04:29.780 I know I sent it to you.

00:04:31.200 It's really good.

00:04:31.880 Yeah, she did.

00:04:32.280 And it's, like, very informative.

00:04:33.380 So you guys want to – I'm kind of sad because we're, like, finishing the series of, like, Italian mafia that we covered already.

00:04:41.020 Like, we're finishing, like, the whole playlist.

00:04:42.960 And, like, we're not going to make – I mean, we can make more if we can, like, you know.

00:04:46.680 I think maybe, if anything, I'll do one more Orion Dawson.

00:04:50.060 We'll recover the Italian mafia and intelligence agencies.

00:04:53.040 But that's pretty much going to be it.

00:04:54.840 Because, I mean, how many episodes have we done now?

00:04:56.340 Is this, like, seven or eight?

00:04:57.220 Yeah, like, almost eight.

00:04:58.820 Yeah.

00:04:59.060 Yeah, and also, I'm kind of hoping that Patrick – Patrick B. Davis, we met him at the – well, I met him.

00:05:09.420 I already knew him at the Valuetainment show that we had on Friday – last Friday.

00:05:14.820 And, like, I'm a big fan of his content.

00:05:16.580 I'm a big fan of him.

00:05:17.860 And I managed to talk to him for a while.

00:05:19.760 And he said, like, he could hook us up with Sammy the Bull.

00:05:22.600 Yes.

00:05:22.800 So, I'm kind of hoping we can get, like, an interview with him because that would be also be so good for this channel.

00:05:27.360 I mean, it's so good.

00:05:28.580 Sammy the Bull is, like – it was a great – like, he was a big monster.

00:05:32.240 And we talked about him in more detail in the Gambino family documentary.

00:05:36.480 As you guys know, he was basically the underboss for John Gotti when John Gotti took over as boss for the Gambino crime family.

00:05:42.000 And Sammy the Bull famously testified against John Gotti, et cetera.

00:05:45.440 So, yeah, it would definitely be interesting to get him on as well.

00:05:47.620 Yeah, definitely.

00:05:48.180 So, anything else before I get into this?

00:05:50.540 No.

00:05:50.860 Just to check – you guys should check the playlist that we have on the channel because you're still asking for the same time cases that we already covered.

00:06:00.580 So, yeah, check out the playlist because –

00:06:02.740 Yeah, it's nicely organized for y'all as well.

00:06:04.540 Yes.

00:06:04.940 Italian Mafia, 9-11, organized crime, national security cases.

00:06:09.780 It's all there, guys.

00:06:10.660 So, make sure to definitely check it out.

00:06:13.440 But, cool.

00:06:13.980 So, without further ado, guys, we will go ahead and get into today's episode, which is going to be the Philly Month.

00:06:21.620 All right?

00:06:21.980 So, let's get into it.

00:06:29.340 A ruthless grab for power tears a city apart.

00:06:34.240 A crime family splits in two as the young and the old fight to the death.

00:06:39.420 The FBI is caught in the middle as they infiltrate the syndicate in a desperate attempt to end the brutal war raging on the streets of Philadelphia.

00:06:52.740 The FBI is caught in the middle of a bloody vendetta.

00:07:19.220 The streets erupted in mob warfare.

00:07:22.700 Authorities feared innocent people would be caught in the crossfire.

00:07:26.560 I'm Jim Kalsstrom, former head of the FBI's New York office.

00:07:30.300 Agents launched a complex and risky surveillance operation.

00:07:34.240 Their mission?

00:07:35.260 To bring down a notorious crime family and to stop a brutal turf war before more people were killed.

00:07:42.060 A quiet morning in South Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

00:07:56.300 Joe Andruzzi is being wired by the FBI.

00:08:00.840 South Philadelphia, born and raised in the playgrounds where I spent most of my days.

00:08:04.420 No, all jokes aside, guys.

00:08:05.400 That's Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.

00:08:07.760 South Philadelphia, guys, if you guys have ever been to Philadelphia, it's a very strong Italian population.

00:08:16.240 North Philly is the hood.

00:08:17.780 South Philly is the Italian stronghold.

00:08:21.540 So let's see here.

00:08:22.840 So we got a guy getting wired up by the FBI in 1990.

00:08:25.640 Way before you go into it.

00:08:26.820 The documentary that I was talking about is called Philly Bot Documentary, and this is on the channel Mop Talk News.

00:08:35.280 Cool.

00:08:35.600 You know what?

00:08:36.100 Since we're on it anyway, go ahead and pull up that Wikipedia page you got up.

00:08:38.800 We'll read this through real quick for y'all.

00:08:40.080 Okay, sure.

00:08:40.500 Give you guys a quick little intro because Angie pulled this up.

00:08:42.860 We'll give you guys a little intro to the Philadelphia Mafia, which this documentary is going to cover in some parts.

00:08:48.920 So we got here.

00:08:50.080 Go ahead, Angie.

00:08:50.760 You want to read it for them?

00:08:51.560 Okay.

00:08:51.840 The Philadelphia crime family, also known as the Philadelphia Mafia, the Philly Mafia, or Bruno Scarfo family, is an Italian-American mafia family based in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

00:09:05.080 You know what's funny?

00:09:06.520 This is me being L, but I thought Pennsylvania was another state.

00:09:11.040 I didn't know Pennsylvania was a city in Philadelphia.

00:09:14.640 No, no.

00:09:15.020 Pennsylvania is another state.

00:09:16.560 It is?

00:09:17.040 You're right.

00:09:17.600 Yeah.

00:09:17.920 Pennsylvania is a state.

00:09:18.740 Philadelphia is a city in that state.

00:09:20.480 Oh, no, no, no.

00:09:22.040 Okay.

00:09:22.400 All the way around.

00:09:22.980 You thought Pennsylvania was a city and Philadelphia was a state?

00:09:25.280 Yes.

00:09:25.560 Yes.

00:09:25.720 Okay, okay, okay.

00:09:26.420 Because, I mean, I don't know.

00:09:27.360 In that case, then stupid.

00:09:29.120 Yeah, because I don't know, like, all the states in the United States.

00:09:31.600 Like, I knew the names, but I wouldn't know, like, the capital of each state, like, the cities in each state.

00:09:37.280 So, yeah, I was thinking me, silly me.

00:09:39.380 I was thinking, like, yeah, Philadelphia was another state.

00:09:41.580 Anyways, it says here, form and base in South Philadelphia.

00:09:45.280 Philadelphia, the criminal organization primarily operates in various areas and neighborhoods in Philadelphia, the greater Philadelphia metropolitan area, i.e. the Delaware Valley, and New Jersey, especially South Jersey.

00:10:01.920 The family is notorious for its violence due in particular to its succession of violent bosses and multiple mob words.

00:10:10.340 Which we're going to talk about here in this episode, guys.

00:10:13.420 So, you know, the name of Bruno Crime Family is the family of this.

00:10:16.520 And if you have anything else, Angie, like, that comes up, whatever, just let me know.

00:10:20.140 Sure.

00:10:20.600 But, yeah, guys, so let's get back into it.

00:10:22.960 So, you guys can see here, it's 1990, and the FBI is wiring up this guy.

00:10:25.820 I wonder why.

00:10:26.380 Let's play the video real quick, because I got some commentary on this.

00:10:29.700 He's a 20-year-old accounting student at LaSalle University, and he's in trouble.

00:10:35.540 LaSalle is a local university in Philadelphia, by the way.

00:10:38.060 It sucks.

00:10:38.540 I remember we raced him back at the Eastern Sprints in 2012, and we smashed him.

00:10:42.400 Yeah, LaSalle sucks.

00:10:43.060 He's been betting on football through a mafia bookmaker.

00:10:48.460 He was winning at first, but his luck turns sour.

00:10:53.100 He owes the mob $1,000.

00:10:58.160 Angie, look up what $1,000 was.

00:11:00.280 Oh, she's already on it.

00:11:00.980 Okay, $1,000 in 1990.

00:11:02.660 And as you guys know, the reason why this is very relevant, guys.

00:11:05.980 1990?

00:11:06.800 Yeah, 1990.

00:11:08.580 Yeah.

00:11:09.100 So, and the reason why this is so relevant, guys, just so you all know,

00:11:11.780 is that the mafia, right, ran gambling rings back then.

00:11:15.800 They still do now, but, you know, sports betting was a big thing.

00:11:19.600 If you guys don't believe me, watch the interview that we did with Michael Francis,

00:11:22.300 where he details this, where he was running a bunch of, he had a bunch of bookmakers

00:11:28.240 that he was presiding over that basically, you know, ran these illegal gambling rackets.

00:11:33.520 And the mafia controlled that, guys, especially in Philadelphia.

00:11:36.420 So if you don't pay the money, yeah, you know, there ain't going to be...

00:11:39.220 Forget about it!

00:11:40.180 They're definitely going to remember it, and they're going to come after you.

00:11:42.660 So you got to pay the money that you're owed.

00:11:44.480 And in this case, he owed $1,000 in sports betting.

00:11:47.960 What is that?

00:11:48.340 Right now, it's $2,300.

00:11:50.620 Wow.

00:11:51.100 Today.

00:11:51.500 It's over doubled 23 years later.

00:11:53.900 So let's get back into it, guys.

00:11:56.640 It's a debt he cannot pay.

00:11:58.280 Do you understand?

00:11:59.440 I don't think you do something.

00:12:01.020 I don't think you got it at all.

00:12:02.700 I don't think you understand what's going on.

00:12:04.320 In way over his head, afraid for his life,

00:12:07.020 Andruzzi contacted the FBI and asked for help.

00:12:10.000 It's money, kid.

00:12:16.080 South Philly is a tough place.

00:12:18.920 And this actually, guys, happens quite a bit.

00:12:21.000 I remember when I was an informant, there was so many times...

00:12:23.060 When I was an informant, LOL, my bad.

00:12:25.220 Stupid.

00:12:25.780 When I was an agent, informants would come to me all the time, guys, saying,

00:12:28.700 Hey, you know, this guy's going to kill me if I don't pay back this debt.

00:12:32.360 Or these guys want to get rid of me, blah, blah, blah.

00:12:34.380 A lot of the times, informants will come to you as a last resort

00:12:37.000 Through desperation that they're about to be killed.

00:12:40.200 I remember that story I tell you guys all the time about that Sicario

00:12:42.400 That talked about people that he would kill for the bosses and the Zetas.

00:12:46.540 How he would, like, you know, cut off fingers and stuff like that.

00:12:48.860 And he would get a bonus for every person that he killed.

00:12:50.400 I think I've told that story before.

00:12:51.400 But either way, he came to us providing information

00:12:54.240 Because they wanted him gone, guys.

00:12:55.820 So, sometimes you get some of the best informants

00:12:58.260 When they're between a rock and a hard place

00:13:00.920 Because they don't have a choice.

00:13:02.620 So, they come to law enforcement.

00:13:03.800 That's a great situation for you to be as an agent, as a controlling agent.

00:13:07.260 Go ahead.

00:13:07.380 Maren, so, now that we're talking about your experience

00:13:10.480 A lot of people have been asking me to break down, like, a case of yours.

00:13:14.200 I don't know if you can do it.

00:13:15.460 Yeah, we definitely can.

00:13:16.540 I've just been kind of waiting, because one of the cases that I have

00:13:20.000 It's actually going to get a Department of Justice award from the Attorney General very soon.

00:13:25.640 I'm going to reach out to one of my old colleagues and see if I can do it.

00:13:29.280 That'd be great.

00:13:29.820 Because it might still be active.

00:13:31.040 It deals with Sri Lankan smugglers and...

00:13:34.660 Sri Lankan smugglers?

00:13:35.960 Sri Lankans, yeah.

00:13:36.960 It's a very...

00:13:37.960 Are there Sri Lankan smugglers in here?

00:13:40.700 Yeah, man.

00:13:41.340 What?

00:13:41.660 Yeah, yeah, it's a National Security Sri Lankan case.

00:13:43.720 So, I got to make sure that it's all good and stuff, but it's a really fucking cool case.

00:13:46.940 We did some crazy shit on that case.

00:13:48.560 Okay, that'd be great.

00:13:49.780 Yeah, I think you guys will enjoy it.

00:13:51.980 But, yeah, I'll do some more of my case.

00:13:53.900 Then I got another one where, like, I investigated a criminal organization

00:13:56.500 that was using Border Patrol cars to smuggle illegal aliens in the United States.

00:14:00.640 And then I got another one that was a big drug trafficking case

00:14:02.980 that had corrupt police officers in it and shit.

00:14:05.920 Wow.

00:14:06.820 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:14:07.560 So, I'll definitely...

00:14:08.420 Don't worry, guys.

00:14:09.180 Yeah, I'll tell you.

00:14:10.620 I got some really cool stories that I'll cover.

00:14:12.380 How do you know the HSI cover those?

00:14:14.980 No, we do, yeah.

00:14:15.880 We cover...

00:14:17.200 We do everything the FBI does, to be honest with you.

00:14:20.400 The only thing that the FBI does exclusively that we're not going to do

00:14:24.440 is terrorism and espionage.

00:14:28.260 Okay.

00:14:28.640 Like, when it comes to, like, National Security or whatever,

00:14:30.500 that you get pretty much...

00:14:31.760 It's going to always go to FBI if it's terrorism.

00:14:33.320 So, those are the main differences between departments?

00:14:36.960 Between agencies, yeah.

00:14:38.320 Okay.

00:14:38.580 Yeah, because, like...

00:14:40.140 Okay, so if I go through this real quick.

00:14:42.500 You got the Department of Homeland Security,

00:14:43.720 and then the main agency underneath it that does law enforcement functions

00:14:46.680 is Homeland Security Investigations.

00:14:48.540 That's, like, the top agency for DHS.

00:14:51.500 Then, under the Department of Justice,

00:14:52.780 you got the main law enforcement agency as the FBI.

00:14:55.300 There's other agencies, like ATF and the U.S. Marshal Service and other stuff,

00:14:59.960 but the premier agency under the Department of Justice is the FBI.

00:15:02.980 And then the premier one under the Department of Homeland Security

00:15:04.860 is Homeland Security Investigations, HSI.

00:15:06.340 And we have a lot of overlap, like, FBI investigates drugs, so do we.

00:15:10.440 FBI investigates national security cases, so do we.

00:15:14.400 You know, we have a lot of different overlap in cases,

00:15:17.260 but the one thing that the FBI always takes a lead on is terrorism and espionage.

00:15:21.520 Right, wow.

00:15:22.040 Those are the two main things.

00:15:22.940 And then they also do public corruption as well,

00:15:24.940 but we can do public corruption if it interferes with, like,

00:15:27.640 a crime that we investigate.

00:15:28.640 So, let's say we get information that, like,

00:15:31.320 a politician is involved in, like, smuggling, drug smuggling.

00:15:34.160 Well, it's going to be us because they're involved in a crime that we also do.

00:15:36.760 And you have to share that with the FBI or no?

00:15:40.040 It's really up to you, right, as a case agent, right?

00:15:43.160 So, I think to kind of not deal with problems later on,

00:15:46.280 you should bring them on board because, like, you know,

00:15:48.500 it depends on the prosecutor.

00:15:49.940 The prosecutor might say, no, you should involve the FBI.

00:15:51.820 It's public corruption.

00:15:52.400 But would it aid the investigation to get them on or no?

00:15:57.980 You want me to give you the politically correct answer or the real answer?

00:16:00.440 I mean, both, if you can, if you're an addict.

00:16:02.300 The politically correct answer is it should aid because you're bringing in the FBI

00:16:07.080 and they have resources and they get a lot of funding and, you know,

00:16:11.240 technically public corruption is their niche.

00:16:13.720 But nine out of ten times, is it going to help?

00:16:16.060 No.

00:16:16.880 Why?

00:16:17.580 Because what ends up happening a lot of times is if the FBI is the lead agency on it,

00:16:22.340 a lot of agencies are like this.

00:16:23.240 If you're not the lead, they're not going to put their full effort in.

00:16:25.840 So, whoever's lead is typically going to care more.

00:16:28.320 All right.

00:16:28.800 And this is, like, the political side of doing law enforcement.

00:16:33.000 The lead agency is typically responsible for the case that gets the credit most of the time.

00:16:36.960 So, they're going to put the most effort in.

00:16:38.760 But at the same time, the other agencies that are involved,

00:16:40.820 sometimes they don't put as much effort in.

00:16:42.520 But what's going to happen if you get them on?

00:16:44.460 Like, are they going to be a burden?

00:16:45.460 Or are they actually going to help a little bit at least?

00:16:49.640 Working with the FBI, usually what they do is they kind of come in, they help,

00:16:53.280 and then when it's time to make the arrest, they make sure they put their ray jackets on.

00:16:56.960 And everyone thinks of the FBI case when it wasn't.

00:16:58.900 Oh, they want to take credit for it.

00:17:00.220 They'll take credit for it.

00:17:01.440 Yeah.

00:17:01.880 It's something that's, like, very well known in the law enforcement community.

00:17:05.040 Ba-ba-ba-da.

00:17:05.840 Yeah, yeah.

00:17:06.780 That's, you know, that's what the Bureau does.

00:17:09.940 Because since they're the most famous agency,

00:17:12.720 Of course.

00:17:13.040 When you do your arrests, right, when you do all your arrests,

00:17:16.960 they're going to be there with their ray jacket,

00:17:18.580 and they're going to assume, the public and the media is going to assume that it was an FBI case,

00:17:22.060 but it really wasn't.

00:17:22.680 They just were assisting.

00:17:23.800 Yeah, they'll be like, the FBI, open up.

00:17:25.500 Yeah, exactly.

00:17:26.160 So that's what it is.

00:17:27.360 So, and I'll give you guys an example here right now, right?

00:17:29.420 So I'll show you real quick how to tell who the lead agency is on a case.

00:17:33.200 Let's use a famous one, Tekashi69, right?

00:17:35.340 How are you going to own the reports?

00:17:36.900 Yeah.

00:17:37.220 No, I'll show you.

00:17:37.800 I'll teach you right now how to do it.

00:17:39.180 So USDOJ, right?

00:17:40.740 6ix9ine recording artist, right?

00:17:42.580 So I'm going to go ahead and share screen with y'all real quick and show you all this.

00:17:45.540 So you guys learn.

00:17:46.720 I'm going to teach you guys how to be able to tell who the main agency is on an investigation.

00:17:53.540 So give me one second.

00:17:57.160 That's awesome.

00:17:57.900 Yeah, I'll show you guys how to do this.

00:17:59.200 This is the Department of Justice article, like main article, right?

00:18:02.600 Yes, right.

00:18:03.560 So here you go right here, right?

00:18:05.680 So you got recording artists and performers, Tekashi69, five other members and associates

00:18:10.720 of violent New York City gang charged them in Manhattan Federal Court with racketeering

00:18:14.180 and firearms offenses, right?

00:18:15.520 So this is what you do.

00:18:17.120 You come in and you look at the official thing, right?

00:18:18.920 And you look.

00:18:20.160 Okay.

00:18:20.700 Can you zoom up a little bit?

00:18:21.860 Oh, yes.

00:18:22.400 Good call.

00:18:23.120 Good call.

00:18:24.300 So you got here.

00:18:25.540 Jeffrey S. Burman, United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York.

00:18:27.880 That's always going to happen.

00:18:28.880 And then look at the after the U.S.

00:18:31.000 U.S. Attorney Office.

00:18:32.560 Look at who comes first.

00:18:34.180 Angel M. Melendez, who actually know who this guy is.

00:18:36.580 He was the special agent in charge for Puerto Rico.

00:18:39.500 But he says, special agent in charge of the U.S.

00:18:42.040 Immigration and Customs Enforcement, HSI, of HSI, and then Ashton Benedict, special agent

00:18:48.100 in charge of the New York Field Office, Bureau of Alcohol and Tobacco Farms, that's ATF.

00:18:51.300 And then James P. O'Neill, commissioner of New York City Police Department, right?

00:18:54.400 Announced the unsealing today of an indictment charging six members and associates of the

00:18:57.500 Nine Trey Gangster Bloods.

00:18:59.200 The lead agency, guys, is the agency that is mentioned first.

00:19:02.900 Okay.

00:19:03.480 Okay?

00:19:04.120 That's how you know when you do, when you look at the U.S.

00:19:06.460 DOJ press release.

00:19:07.280 That is the secret sauce to find out which agency ran the case.

00:19:10.320 Okay?

00:19:10.720 And, but then that shows also, can you go back?

00:19:13.300 Yeah, yeah.

00:19:13.660 Go ahead.

00:19:13.960 That shows also that they are working together, like the FBI and also the NYPD.

00:19:19.400 So the FBI wasn't even involved in this case.

00:19:21.700 And the ATF, they're working together?

00:19:23.880 So the three main agencies, yes, they're working together.

00:19:26.100 All right.

00:19:26.300 So HSI was lead, ATF was working with them, and so was NYPD.

00:19:29.380 But it's funny because everyone keeps saying, Tekashi got arrested by the FBI.

00:19:32.900 No, it was HSI that got him.

00:19:34.880 And I know this for a fact because I was in the office the day after they grabbed him.

00:19:38.360 I was in New York City for another agent case.

00:19:40.960 I was literally there.

00:19:42.320 They arrested him, I think, like November, not the day after.

00:19:45.200 They arrested him sometime in mid-November.

00:19:47.180 I was there in early December of 2018.

00:19:50.160 Okay.

00:19:50.880 So.

00:19:52.320 You were in New York?

00:19:53.040 No, no, excuse me.

00:19:54.280 I was there in January, like the first week of January I was there in New York City.

00:19:59.000 Excuse me.

00:19:59.560 They grabbed him in November.

00:20:00.980 I was there in January.

00:20:02.240 A month later.

00:20:03.280 Like a month later.

00:20:03.980 Excuse me, yeah.

00:20:04.640 I was exaggerating.

00:20:05.860 But, and then, so you could look here, right?

00:20:09.840 And then it says here, Mr. Berman, right, praised the outstanding efforts of HSI, ATF,

00:20:14.240 and NYPD.

00:20:15.660 So the first agency they mentioned is a lead agency.

00:20:18.860 Okay.

00:20:20.080 And then here's the people that they charge and everything else like that.

00:20:23.120 And then here's the indictment here, et cetera.

00:20:25.340 And then the other way to tell who the lead agency is.

00:20:28.220 Here, I'll give you all an example right now.

00:20:30.000 Let's, I'm trying to think here of a case.

00:20:36.880 Damn it.

00:20:37.360 I'm trying to think of a case that I can give you all an example of.

00:20:39.580 The other way to tell if the, so you could go with the DOJ press release.

00:20:43.340 And then also look at the AFI on a, on a criminal complaint.

00:20:47.660 That's another way to tell.

00:20:48.720 The what?

00:20:49.140 The AFI?

00:20:49.700 The AFI on a criminal complaint.

00:20:51.160 Okay.

00:20:51.800 So, for example, this guy just passed away and I did a case on him, actually.

00:20:55.540 Robert Hansen, right?

00:20:57.360 He just died today, actually.

00:20:58.880 June 5th, 2023.

00:20:59.800 This guy got wiped in prison.

00:21:01.660 I covered this guy's case.

00:21:02.680 He was a, he was an FBI agent.

00:21:05.360 Yeah, he just died today.

00:21:06.440 What?

00:21:07.040 Yeah, or yesterday, technically.

00:21:08.680 But he gave sole secrets to the Russians, right?

00:21:11.420 And I actually did a case on this guy.

00:21:13.860 Really interesting espionage case.

00:21:15.600 I did a, I fed it on him, right?

00:21:17.380 But he passed away today, right?

00:21:19.340 He needed a prison in life, right?

00:21:21.120 So, if you go Robert Hansen.

00:21:23.260 What?

00:21:23.780 Affidavit.

00:21:24.520 How do you know this?

00:21:25.860 Like, what?

00:21:26.440 Yeah, I know.

00:21:27.000 I just, I just, yeah.

00:21:28.700 So, here's, here's an affidavit, right, guys?

00:21:30.740 Obviously, we know it's the FBI because we're on the website.

00:21:32.600 But, you look here, right?

00:21:34.700 They put a table of fucking contents, man.

00:21:36.520 This is not normal, by the way, guys.

00:21:38.100 So, you look here.

00:21:39.240 I, Stephan A. Pluta, being duly sworn to pose a state as follows.

00:21:42.700 I am presently employed as a special agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, FBI.

00:21:47.180 Bam.

00:21:48.000 So, that's how you know the FBI is the lead agency.

00:21:51.020 Because, typically, whoever writes a criminal complaint, nine out of ten times is the lead agency.

00:21:55.220 All right.

00:21:55.820 Okay?

00:21:56.480 Most of the time.

00:21:57.180 Not every single time, but most of the time.

00:21:58.540 That's a telltale sign.

00:21:59.960 So, you're looking at...

00:22:00.780 And the next ones that are the ones that work together.

00:22:03.340 He's not even going to, he's going to mention, let me see here.

00:22:05.120 He's probably going to mention other agencies that were involved, but I think, in this case,

00:22:07.660 it was only FBI.

00:22:08.620 But, wouldn't it be, like, at the beginning?

00:22:11.460 Would he mention who helped him?

00:22:13.120 No, no, no.

00:22:13.660 The agencies wouldn't be there, like, right next to the FBI?

00:22:17.060 Like, after he mentioned the FBI?

00:22:18.900 No, because the affidavit is him simply just...

00:22:22.460 So, the affidavit...

00:22:23.560 Here, I'll give you another example.

00:22:25.380 You know what?

00:22:25.920 Let's use myself as an example.

00:22:27.180 Let me go ahead and Google my real name here.

00:22:28.980 Nice.

00:22:29.720 All right?

00:22:31.020 I'll Google my real fucking name.

00:22:33.120 Let's see here.

00:22:33.960 We're getting the sauce here.

00:22:35.860 Hold on.

00:22:36.340 Let me put...

00:22:37.540 We're getting what you guys have been asking for.

00:22:39.780 Yeah.

00:22:41.300 So, boom.

00:22:42.140 Here we go.

00:22:42.720 Right?

00:22:43.160 I'll pull up one of my own affidavits here.

00:22:45.020 This is a case that I did, right?

00:22:46.600 This is the Sri Lanka case I told you all about, right?

00:22:48.520 Take it down, Don DeMarco.

00:22:49.500 Yeah, yeah.

00:22:49.920 I'll give you all some sauce.

00:22:53.260 Okay.

00:22:54.120 I'm in Special Agent for Homeland Security Investigations and have been so employed since 2013.

00:22:57.360 Ooh, you got your name there.

00:22:58.240 I'm currently assigned to the Human Smuggling Group in the HSI Miami Field Office where I'm

00:23:01.360 responsible for conducting, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?

00:23:03.340 And I talk about my experience.

00:23:04.960 So, in this case, right, I think I'm going to mention other agencies that I worked with.

00:23:12.180 Okay.

00:23:13.120 The statements that contain this affidavit are based on my personal knowledge as well as

00:23:16.020 information provided to me by other law enforcement officers and law enforcement personnel

00:23:19.060 because this affidavit is submitted to the purpose of establishing probable cause for

00:23:22.600 a criminal complaint.

00:23:23.580 It does not include every fact known to me in connection with this investigation.

00:23:26.820 Okay.

00:23:27.420 And I go into all the facts here because I actually did this case with...

00:23:31.680 When was this?

00:23:32.760 I did this in 2020.

00:23:35.360 Okay.

00:23:36.260 Oh, nice.

00:23:37.100 Yeah.

00:23:37.240 I actually signed it.

00:23:37.900 Here's the date.

00:23:38.380 July 16, 2020.

00:23:40.560 Oh, shit.

00:23:41.500 Okay.

00:23:42.280 Whoa.

00:23:42.660 That's recent.

00:23:43.280 Yeah, that was me.

00:23:43.900 And I remember I actually, because it was during COVID, I actually called in on a FaceTime

00:23:47.760 and swore to this affidavit.

00:23:49.700 Oh, my God.

00:23:50.460 Yeah, I called in on FaceTime.

00:23:51.680 That's how I did my thesis for the university.

00:23:55.200 So, yeah.

00:23:56.580 Typically, an affidavit, you should put who you're also working with in the affidavit.

00:24:00.240 In this case, I had foreign law enforcement agencies because I did this case with Turks

00:24:04.260 and Caicos Police Department and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

00:24:07.660 And I also had CBSA involved, so I didn't put them too, too much in here.

00:24:10.800 But you typically put the other agencies that you're working with.

00:24:12.800 But the main takeaway, guys, is this.

00:24:15.080 Basically, if you want to find out, because I don't want to digress too much here.

00:24:20.300 If you want to find out who is the lead agency, go to the U.S. DOJ press release, come down,

00:24:27.540 and then the first law enforcement agency that's mentioned is the lead agency.

00:24:32.600 Bam.

00:24:33.240 There you go.

00:24:33.920 Right?

00:24:34.140 So, I'll give you an example.

00:24:34.920 Let's go back to news, right?

00:24:38.100 News.

00:24:38.500 How do you find these affidavits?

00:24:40.160 Did you split your name?

00:24:42.040 I did in that case, yeah.

00:24:43.900 Because someone, like, leaked it when they tried to dox me, which ended up creating this channel.

00:24:47.300 So, big L for y'all.

00:24:48.360 Stupid.

00:24:49.080 But, yeah.

00:24:49.780 So, here's an example.

00:24:50.920 Former co-owners of Minnesota Vikings sentenced to 75 months in prison for providing shadow

00:24:54.740 banking services to cryptocurrency exchanges, right?

00:24:57.380 So, let's click this press release.

00:24:58.780 We want to see, okay, who's the lead agency in this?

00:25:00.540 This literally just happened today, June 5th, 2023, right?

00:25:03.840 So, you come in.

00:25:05.180 All right.

00:25:05.540 Damian Williams, the United States Attorney for the Sundance in New York, announced today that Reginald Fowler

00:25:10.540 was sent to 75 months in prison for arranging the process of more than 700 million, blah, blah, blah, right?

00:25:14.860 So, now we're going to go ahead and scroll down.

00:25:17.260 Because this isn't an arrest.

00:25:19.020 This is more of a sentencing.

00:25:20.660 So, you're going to come down to the bottom, right?

00:25:24.020 The prosecution in this case overseen by the Office's Money Laundering and Transnational Criminal Enterprise Unit.

00:25:29.240 Hold on.

00:25:29.800 Okay, Mr. Williams praised the outstanding effort, investigative work of special agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigations,

00:25:35.560 New York Money Laundering Investigation Squad, and special agents from the IRS.

00:25:38.700 So, bam.

00:25:39.220 Now, you know, the lead agency in this was FBI and IRS.

00:25:42.820 Boom.

00:25:43.380 There you go.

00:25:44.280 That's how you tell.

00:25:45.480 So, if it's not put here in the beginning, right?

00:25:48.360 Yeah.

00:25:48.980 Then you're going to come down, and the U.S. Attorney typically is going to congratulate agents.

00:25:55.100 And then the first agency mentioned is that.

00:25:57.580 So, in this case, FBI.

00:25:59.280 Right?

00:25:59.560 Let's do it again.

00:26:00.080 Let's go.

00:26:00.800 Next one.

00:26:01.580 Armed Security Guard at 26 Federal Plaza indicted for violating the constitutional rights of an individual through forced sexual assault.

00:26:06.460 So, I already know this is going to be FBI here.

00:26:08.240 Because FBI typically does constitutional rights.

00:26:12.800 Let's see here.

00:26:13.320 You might have been giving me those glasses.

00:26:15.080 Bam.

00:26:15.620 See?

00:26:15.900 I already knew.

00:26:16.320 FBI, right?

00:26:16.900 Because FBI does a lot of the time, like, if you violate someone's, like, constitutional rights.

00:26:21.440 Right?

00:26:21.720 So, there you go.

00:26:22.260 FBI, right?

00:26:23.900 Let's do another one here.

00:26:26.100 Uh, Twinsson and Loa Cartel Associates sent us to 38 and 30 years of prison for a point of 1,000 kilograms of narcotics.

00:26:33.740 So, this is going to either be DEA or HSI.

00:26:36.140 Oh, HSI, right?

00:26:36.740 Let's look.

00:26:37.180 Yeah.

00:26:37.360 It's going to be DEA or HSI.

00:26:38.440 Let's see here.

00:26:40.080 Or both, right?

00:26:41.220 They got sentenced.

00:26:41.880 Southern District of New York.

00:26:42.940 Or it could be both.

00:26:43.700 Let's see.

00:26:44.740 I'm willing to bet.

00:26:45.500 Let's see here.

00:26:46.380 Praise the Outstanding Work.

00:26:47.220 Bam.

00:26:47.540 Got it.

00:26:48.180 DEA's Los Angeles Field Division.

00:26:50.660 The New York Strike Force.

00:26:51.760 The Hawthorne Police Department.

00:26:53.140 The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Office.

00:26:54.340 The DEA Guatemalan's Office.

00:26:56.200 The DEA's Costa Rican Country Office.

00:26:58.840 And DEA's Bogota Country Office.

00:27:00.120 So, this was all DEA here.

00:27:02.040 And one police department.

00:27:03.500 Right?

00:27:04.460 So, that's how you know.

00:27:06.240 And why not HSI?

00:27:07.500 So, okay.

00:27:08.920 This is where we get into a lot of fighting.

00:27:12.100 Normally, when people are importing drugs, it's HSI all day.

00:27:16.700 Okay.

00:27:17.500 But, what ends up happening sometimes is DEA takes importation cases and then we take distribution cases.

00:27:24.380 And what I mean by that is, like, technically, HSI shouldn't be doing drug trafficking cases in the United States that don't have an international nexus.

00:27:31.860 We do it all the time.

00:27:33.160 And technically, DEA shouldn't be doing drug trafficking cases that involve importation because that's HSI.

00:27:38.520 So, the agencies always fight, though.

00:27:41.600 Like, where there's times where we'll do a domestic drug trafficking investigation and HSI will be the lead.

00:27:46.740 And then there's times where DEA will do an importation case and they'll be the lead.

00:27:49.920 Okay.

00:27:50.340 And here we go.

00:27:50.760 A lot of fighting.

00:27:51.520 DEA and HSI, guys.

00:27:53.080 Like, let me put it this way.

00:27:55.340 When I was an agent in Laredo, I was one of the few agents.

00:28:00.320 We had 100 agents, HSI, and I think maybe, like, 30 agents, DEA in Laredo.

00:28:04.440 I was one of maybe five guys that worked with the DEA.

00:28:08.740 Hold on.

00:28:09.460 But this is my question.

00:28:11.080 Sorry.

00:28:11.560 Excuse me.

00:28:11.880 Out of, like, 60 to 100 agents, I was one of five agents that worked with DEA and got along with them.

00:28:17.000 I was one of the few people that would let come into the office.

00:28:18.800 But that's my question, though.

00:28:19.940 Yeah, go ahead.

00:28:20.220 But why HSI and DEA, since they, like, share, like, similarities in their cases, don't work together?

00:28:28.580 I mean.

00:28:29.160 Because the agent, now, that sounds, you're right.

00:28:31.960 Why don't they work together?

00:28:32.880 The reason why is because everyone wants to be the lead agency.

00:28:37.300 You don't want to work with someone else if you can get all the credit for yourself.

00:28:40.380 Because at the end of the day, you want to be able to finish the year and be like, we seized this much drugs.

00:28:45.460 We arrested this many people so that you can get more funding.

00:28:48.160 The agencies are very competitive with each other.

00:28:49.760 They are literally cousins' agencies.

00:28:51.740 Like, they're cousins.

00:28:52.720 It's like.

00:28:53.620 Yeah.

00:28:53.880 It's like they're sizing their dick to see who's larger or, like, who gets the ego, like, bigger.

00:28:59.800 It's so stupid.

00:29:01.120 Well, law enforcement is a very A-type personality.

00:29:03.900 Everyone wants to be the one that gets the credit.

00:29:06.320 They want to get the funding.

00:29:07.860 Very competitive.

00:29:09.260 And they set that up like that on purpose.

00:29:10.780 So the agencies, like, work hard and, you know, it's competitive.

00:29:13.160 But, yeah.

00:29:14.140 There's so many times where agencies fight.

00:29:15.920 I can't tell you how many times I've fought with DEA agents, FBI agents.

00:29:18.200 They try to take each other's cases.

00:29:19.780 It happens all the time.

00:29:21.120 And what is the benefit besides the credit to get, like, I mean, what did they gain besides the credit?

00:29:27.800 So, oh, man.

00:29:29.320 You really want me to do this?

00:29:31.020 I'm about to go into some, like, detail here that, like, no one really knows.

00:29:34.720 Ooh, that's what we want.

00:29:36.940 That's what we want here.

00:29:38.480 Okay.

00:29:39.140 Damn.

00:29:39.340 I thought you guys, this is what we've been asking for.

00:29:41.820 Okay.

00:29:43.480 So people aren't going to like this, but I'm going to say it.

00:29:46.840 So, and you're only going to know this if you work in law enforcement.

00:29:49.660 So I need y'all to like the video right here, right now, because no one's going to give you guys the sauce what I'm about to tell y'all.

00:29:53.620 I'm excited to hear this.

00:29:54.160 This is the truth that only if you work in federal law enforcement, you'll know this shit.

00:30:00.180 So when you work for the government, there's something called the GS scale.

00:30:02.520 You get paid on the GS scale, right?

00:30:04.560 And when you're getting paid on the GS scale, the maximum is something called a GS 13.

00:30:09.860 What's the GS scale?

00:30:11.040 A GS scale is like how government employees are paid.

00:30:13.460 Okay.

00:30:13.880 Okay.

00:30:14.480 So in the special agent position, the max that you can do is a GS 13.

00:30:20.020 And a 13 is basically the highest you can get before you become a manager or a supervisor, which is a GS 14.

00:30:27.700 Okay.

00:30:28.140 Now with FBI, HSI, ATF, and a bunch of different agencies, you get that 13, something called non-competitively.

00:30:38.040 Okay.

00:30:39.240 Basically, three to five years, you're going to have your GS 13.

00:30:42.600 Why is that important?

00:30:43.820 Three to five years?

00:30:44.780 Three to five years.

00:30:45.840 So, for example, I got hired at like a seven, a GS seven.

00:30:49.680 It took me five years to get my 13.

00:30:51.320 I went from seven.

00:30:52.140 Oh, you got it?

00:30:52.780 Yeah, I got it.

00:30:53.320 Okay, nice.

00:30:53.900 I went from GS seven to GS nine to GS 11 and then GS 13, right?

00:30:59.120 Are you going to get a GS at 10?

00:31:02.240 HSI skips it.

00:31:03.520 HSI goes by seven, nine, 11, then, then, do you hit 12s?

00:31:10.200 No, 11 and then 13.

00:31:12.080 Or do you skip it?

00:31:13.120 Oh, no, no, I'm sorry.

00:31:14.480 11, 12, then 13.

00:31:16.420 Weird.

00:31:16.740 That's how HSI does it.

00:31:18.120 There is no reason?

00:31:19.160 There's no reason, yeah.

00:31:20.120 Okay.

00:31:20.380 Depending on if you have a master degree, you'll get hired on as a nine.

00:31:22.640 Nine, 11, 12, 13.

00:31:25.560 Okay?

00:31:26.780 FBI, you get hired as a 10.

00:31:28.820 10, 11, 12, 13.

00:31:31.140 Okay?

00:31:32.360 DEA, though, DEA is a competitive 13.

00:31:39.120 What does that mean?

00:31:40.620 So, HSI, DEA, ATF, most agencies, IRS as well, you get your 13 just by showing up to work every day.

00:31:47.400 Okay?

00:31:48.000 Show up to work.

00:31:49.580 You know, every year, you're going to get your grade bump, right?

00:31:53.260 Why is that important?

00:31:54.220 Because from a 12 to a 13 is typically when you hit six figures.

00:31:58.340 It's a big bump.

00:31:59.540 It's the biggest bump.

00:32:00.780 You'll go from making like 80K per year to making like 110K per year.

00:32:04.500 Wow.

00:32:04.840 Okay.

00:32:05.100 So, that 13 is huge when you get it.

00:32:08.020 Okay?

00:32:09.220 DEA, however, it's a competitive 13.

00:32:11.440 What does that mean?

00:32:12.020 That means you have to earn that 13.

00:32:14.920 Okay?

00:32:15.780 Since you have to earn that 13, you have to do something called a 13 package.

00:32:19.020 All right?

00:32:19.520 Hang on.

00:32:19.880 How do you earn it?

00:32:21.100 I'll explain right now.

00:32:21.800 You have to put something together called a 13 package.

00:32:25.080 You have to show how many wiretaps you've done.

00:32:27.520 You have to show how many informants you control.

00:32:29.500 How many reports you've written.

00:32:31.040 Basically, you have to say, this is why I deserve a 13.

00:32:34.040 Because I've done all this shit.

00:32:35.540 I've shown that I can run a complex investigation.

00:32:39.020 I've been the lead agent on it.

00:32:40.280 I've done this many OCDF cases, which is an organized crime, drug enforcement, task force case.

00:32:43.720 You have to show all these things that you've done as a special agent.

00:32:47.080 Right?

00:32:48.200 Then.

00:32:48.920 How do you show that?

00:32:49.700 In our report?

00:32:50.280 You show it, like, basically right up, like, a report, essentially.

00:32:54.140 Then you have to submit that to your special agent in charge, your SAC.

00:32:56.960 And then he gives you the yay or nay on your 13.

00:33:01.420 Now, with that said, if 10 guys are competing for 13s, well, guess what?

00:33:07.200 They all have to be lead case agent.

00:33:08.600 They all want to write wires.

00:33:09.680 They all want to do this, blah, blah, blah.

00:33:10.860 Wait.

00:33:11.100 Hang on.

00:33:11.420 So only one gets it?

00:33:13.540 It depends on the office.

00:33:14.900 Some offices might only give it to some guys.

00:33:16.980 Some offices will give it to all guys.

00:33:18.260 Every SAC is different.

00:33:19.320 Okay.

00:33:19.860 But the point is, is that they have to articulate why they deserve a 13.

00:33:24.480 So if you know that to get your 13, you have to do all this shit, you're not going to share information with other agencies.

00:33:31.360 You're not going to share information with other agents that you even work with.

00:33:34.340 Because it's a competition.

00:33:35.320 It's competitive.

00:33:36.380 And there's a significant financial incentive to it.

00:33:38.700 So the reason why DEA agents are so cutthroat, guys, is because they, their 13 is competitive.

00:33:45.780 Okay.

00:33:46.100 How did you get yours?

00:33:47.160 Who did you compete with?

00:33:47.840 HSI is not competitive.

00:33:49.040 You get it just by, just by being there.

00:33:51.760 It's a non-competitive 13.

00:33:53.360 FBI, DEA, HSI, non-competitive.

00:33:56.040 You get it just by being, just by staying four or five years on the job.

00:34:00.500 DEA is not competitive.

00:34:01.480 It is competitive though.

00:34:02.480 One of the few agencies where it's competitive.

00:34:04.160 It used to be, we really want to go history here.

00:34:07.300 It used to be when you were a customs agent, it was competitive.

00:34:13.420 Okay.

00:34:14.300 But, because, because, because HSI used to be two different agencies.

00:34:17.260 It used to be INS.

00:34:18.120 And INS, right?

00:34:18.780 And INS and then Customs Service.

00:34:21.140 Okay.

00:34:21.700 And then they formed, after 9-11, 2003 Homeland Security Act, they formed together INS and

00:34:26.800 Customs to create ICE.

00:34:27.980 Right.

00:34:28.740 So you had INS special agents and you had Customs special agents.

00:34:32.500 INS special agents, they maxed out at a 12.

00:34:35.120 They could not get a 13.

00:34:37.220 U.S. Customs special agents maxed out at a 13, but it was competitive.

00:34:40.600 So when they merged the two together, they made it a non-competitive 13.

00:34:44.920 Okay.

00:34:45.320 So, in your department, like, if anyone, like, if anyone were, like, to get, like, a 13, they

00:34:52.840 all get it?

00:34:53.820 Like, all the lead agents?

00:34:55.820 No, all HSI, all HSI special agents get a 13 automatically after four to five years.

00:35:00.620 When they, like, when they get, like, get it?

00:35:03.700 Basically, just, just, just, just go for, just work for four to five years and you'll

00:35:06.940 get it.

00:35:07.420 Wow.

00:35:08.280 You'll get your competitive 13, you'll make $100,000 plus a year.

00:35:10.740 But DEA is not that way, which is why DEA agents are so fucking cutthroat.

00:35:15.580 I've seen DEA just damn near want to fistfight each other in parking lots, guys.

00:35:19.680 What?

00:35:20.340 Yes.

00:35:21.300 Wow.

00:35:21.500 Yes, I've seen it on my own eyes.

00:35:22.880 But then these agencies won't take you guys seriously.

00:35:25.940 They will see you, like, oh, you guys are not, like.

00:35:28.380 What do you mean?

00:35:28.600 Because you didn't, I mean, the way you mentioned this, the way you're saying this, it's like,

00:35:34.140 these other agencies, because you are not competing for this, right?

00:35:38.040 For this J13, you're, you're not fighting for it.

00:35:41.920 Like, they are, you're not putting as much effort as they are.

00:35:44.300 No, DEA is one of the few agencies that's competitive.

00:35:46.340 No one else is competitive, except for DEA.

00:35:48.360 It's just one agency that's competitive?

00:35:49.740 DEA, to my knowledge, I think is the only agency that's competitive, that's a competitive

00:35:53.060 13.

00:35:53.420 No one else is.

00:35:53.940 No, FBI?

00:35:54.500 No, FBI is definitely not competitive.

00:35:56.000 Wow.

00:35:56.520 But that's crazy, though, because then these agencies.

00:35:58.400 All FBI agents are hired in as a GS10.

00:36:01.280 Okay.

00:36:01.580 Or a GL10, and then it goes, after you pass 10, it goes to GS scale.

00:36:05.960 I don't want to get too much in the weeds here, but, but yeah.

00:36:08.580 Right.

00:36:09.200 But this, then this agency must think that it's the best of them all, because it's like,

00:36:13.320 it's literally fighting way more than these other agencies, then.

00:36:17.340 I mean, DEA is one of the few, put it this way, DEA is a very cutthroat culture agency.

00:36:23.640 They backstab each other for cases.

00:36:25.120 It's narcotics, yeah.

00:36:25.480 They don't share information.

00:36:27.160 It's a very cutthroat agency.

00:36:28.600 Of course it is.

00:36:29.160 Now, with that said, the competitive 13 is gone, you know, for DEA.

00:36:34.960 I say all that to say, to say it's gone now, when I, right before I left the government,

00:36:39.320 they, they were talking about getting rid of it.

00:36:41.640 So I don't think that is still required, but you have to be a GS12, I think for two

00:36:46.800 to three years.

00:36:47.440 And, and it's either you can, and you can try to get the 13 in one year, or you could

00:36:53.240 just wait the three years and get it non-competitively.

00:36:55.320 So I think now, if I'm not mistaken, someone in the comments, if you're a DEA agent or, you

00:36:59.340 know, for sure, uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but when I last checked, it's a non-competitive

00:37:05.260 13 now, but you have to be at 12 for three years.

00:37:07.700 And then if you don't write the package and get it, you can go ahead and get it after

00:37:12.620 three years, or you can go ahead and do something called an impact 13, which is you've been a,

00:37:17.620 you've been a 12 for only one year, but then you've done a lot of work and you can go and

00:37:20.640 write your package up and get your 13 that way.

00:37:23.220 In the comments below, if you're, if you're a DEA guy or if you work for DEA or someone

00:37:26.420 knows for sure, comment below.

00:37:27.980 But I'm almost certain that's what it is now, but it forever, it's been a competitive

00:37:32.080 13.

00:37:32.520 So you could go your entire career and be at 12 and not make that a hundred grand per

00:37:36.480 year.

00:37:36.740 This is very important that you mentioned this because it's very understandable now.

00:37:40.880 Why DEA is the way they move.

00:37:42.340 Yeah, of course.

00:37:43.000 I mean, if I would be competing for my, my stuff, for my records and shit, like I wouldn't

00:37:48.440 be sharing.

00:37:48.940 And it's a big pump.

00:37:49.780 It's, it's from, you're going from making a $80,000 a year to like a hundred something

00:37:53.400 thousand per year.

00:37:53.900 I wouldn't be sharing anything with anybody.

00:37:55.900 I wouldn't be like working with anybody.

00:37:58.500 Of course they are the way they are.

00:38:00.020 Of course it makes sense now.

00:38:01.180 Yeah.

00:38:01.420 Now you guys know, there you go, man.

00:38:03.180 Down to Marco.

00:38:05.900 And that's something that you would not know unless you were an agent and you worked with

00:38:10.260 DEA very closely.

00:38:11.940 I know the reason why I know this guys is because I worked, I worked drug cases and I

00:38:16.920 had good friends that were DEA agents and I know their agency in and out.

00:38:21.140 I know how, fuck, I even know what the reports are called.

00:38:23.540 They're called DEA sixes.

00:38:24.480 Oh my God.

00:38:24.980 Are you even allowed to share this information?

00:38:27.320 Uh, no, it's, a lot of it is public.

00:38:29.200 Okay.

00:38:29.520 But, but yeah, but like, uh, well, uh, well, I don't know if it's public that the, the way

00:38:35.260 they get paid about competitive thirteens or whatever, but that's not, that's not like

00:38:39.180 something that's like classified.

00:38:40.360 Like that's like, you could look that up and you could find it on the internet if you

00:38:43.440 were, if you were to search it, but, but yeah, DEA is a competitive 13 still guys

00:38:47.440 to this day.

00:38:47.940 Um, and then you could do something called, like I said before the impact, the impact

00:38:51.280 13, but it's still competitive to a degree.

00:38:54.140 Yeah.

00:38:54.460 You guys, you see, this is why you need to subscribe.

00:38:57.440 Yeah.

00:38:57.780 You ain't got to get sauce like this nowhere else, man.

00:38:59.580 I like the video too.

00:39:00.420 Angie asking really good questions.

00:39:02.460 Um, and this is what I mean.

00:39:03.440 Like guys, I know y'all, you know, you know, be interrupted a little bit because she was

00:39:06.480 being, um, annoying the other, the other day, but Angie really does care.

00:39:10.760 She asked really good questions and she really does care.

00:39:12.540 I mean, this is very interesting.

00:39:13.600 I watch a lot of movies, like I watched, like I've been researching myself here and

00:39:18.380 it's very interesting to what you said.

00:39:20.620 And the thing is, I'll be honest with y'all.

00:39:22.300 Like, um, DEA works very hard because, um, their job, you have to work weird hours.

00:39:27.820 You're following drug dealers around, et cetera.

00:39:29.280 So it's not an easy agency to work for.

00:39:32.000 And a lot of FBI agents are lazy as fuck.

00:39:33.800 A lot of HSI agents are lazy as fuck.

00:39:35.940 Um, DEA agents are by far the hardest working agents by far.

00:39:39.620 IRS agents, lazy as fuck work nine to five.

00:39:42.160 So I always loved working with DEA because they wouldn't care about going out late at

00:39:47.060 night.

00:39:47.280 They wouldn't care about doing surveillance.

00:39:48.640 They always had task force officers that were down.

00:39:51.160 Um, you know, it's a fun, it's a fun, uh, you know, um, crime to investigate, uh, drug

00:39:57.820 trafficking.

00:39:58.400 It's complex.

00:39:59.480 Uh, you're dealing with a lot of different conspirators.

00:40:01.420 You deal with informants a lot.

00:40:02.740 It's a really fun, uh, way to work.

00:40:05.460 But the thing is, is that like, you know, yeah, a lot of them are cutthrows.

00:40:08.540 So if you find the right guys, it's awesome.

00:40:09.980 The best thing that I would do is I would always work with DEA agents that were already

00:40:12.720 thirteens.

00:40:13.340 Those guys are the most chill.

00:40:15.300 You always want to work with DEA agents that are already thirteens because then it'll make

00:40:17.940 it a lot easier for you or task force officers.

00:40:20.420 So, um, because they're not paid by DEA, they're paid by their agency and then they're,

00:40:24.460 um, and then DEA pays for their overtime.

00:40:26.120 So they're actually incentivized to work overtime because their department doesn't pay for it.

00:40:29.680 DEA does.

00:40:30.880 So I, uh, I'm very interested in this because I actually, I don't know if you know this.

00:40:35.280 I did my internships in the, in a department that was called CEI CBC, which is like a police

00:40:41.360 department that covers, I mean, in my city, we have this thing that covers everything from

00:40:46.360 narcotics, like, like any, any, everything.

00:40:49.620 Yeah.

00:40:49.800 They will do organized crime.

00:40:51.140 Yeah, exactly.

00:40:51.740 So I was like doing my internship in the forensics department because I wanted to be, I kind

00:40:57.240 of wanted to do a, like a postgrad in like, uh, criminal psychology or like forensic psychology.

00:41:02.620 I always wanted to do this.

00:41:03.860 I always wanted to be like a forensic and yeah, you'll see like these kinds of cases and like,

00:41:09.500 you'll see like a lot of like sauce going on in that department.

00:41:12.940 So you have like a child's being like from, from child's being like raped by their, by

00:41:19.240 their families.

00:41:19.900 You'll see like dead people that got killed because of a cartel or something.

00:41:23.800 You'll see anything in there.

00:41:25.180 So yeah, I, I got to learn a lot by working with my, with my supervisor, with my, um, the

00:41:30.880 lead agent that was my, like helping me with my internships.

00:41:35.060 Okay.

00:41:35.380 So yeah, that's why I'm so interested because in here in America, it works a little bit

00:41:40.120 different, but it's kind of like the same thing.

00:41:41.720 Um, yeah, I mean, it's competitive between law enforcement agencies for sure, but like

00:41:45.560 yeah, here, um, yeah, that, that's, that's, that's kind of why DEA has a blood, um, the

00:41:51.800 blood culture that they have, you know what I mean?

00:41:53.500 And it's very competitive, but it's good if it keeps all the agencies honest and hard

00:41:57.520 working, but yeah, FBI agents are pretty fucking lazy.

00:42:00.760 So are HSI agents, IRS agents are lazy.

00:42:03.540 DEA agents, a lot of the times, um, most of them are hard workers cause they want to get

00:42:07.400 their 13th.

00:42:08.080 Man, you'll get the FBI on the door.

00:42:09.820 They're FBI, like open up.

00:42:11.320 Yeah.

00:42:11.560 They, they, they, they, they're a lot of FBI agents don't do shit guys.

00:42:13.660 I'll be honest with y'all because this is such a big agency.

00:42:17.000 There's only a couple of them that like really are go-getters that do big cases, but most

00:42:20.520 of them sit behind a desk and don't do shit.

00:42:22.400 I'm going to be honest with y'all.

00:42:23.860 The agency is big enough where you can hide.

00:42:25.700 The kind of place where you want to cross the mob.

00:42:28.540 Anyway, going back to what we're saying, going back to regular schedule programming here,

00:42:33.200 guys.

00:42:35.880 So you got this guy at a LaSalle university accounting student owes a thousand bucks to

00:42:39.340 the mob because he, you know, decided to play some bad bets.

00:42:41.640 And as you guys know, the mafia is notorious for running bookkeeping operations.

00:42:44.920 So he decides to come to the FBI, uh, in 1990 and, uh, basically be an informant.

00:42:55.100 La Casa Nostra, the Italian syndicate of organized crime families runs a profitable and bloody

00:43:01.560 business there.

00:43:02.460 For years, South Philly was run by Angelo Bruno, known as the gentle Don because of

00:43:20.620 his dislike of violence.

00:43:22.340 He took over the city in the 1950s.

00:43:28.060 He was brutally murdered in 1980.

00:43:32.460 The man suspected of being behind the hit was Nicodemo Scarfo.

00:43:37.080 Nicky Scarfo took over Bruno's empire.

00:43:40.120 He was a cold hearted killer who ruled the city by violence.

00:43:45.700 But now Nicky Scarfo is in jail.

00:43:48.800 The FBI wants to find out who is running the Philadelphia mob while the boss is behind bars.

00:43:57.080 Andruzzi's problem with the loan shark gives the FBI the perfect opportunity to collect new

00:44:01.780 information on the organization.

00:44:08.520 The college student meets with the bookmaker.

00:44:11.940 He plays his part perfectly and is introduced to Salvatore Sparaccio, a known member of the

00:44:17.480 Philadelphia mafia.

00:44:18.300 The FBI special agent Jim Marr was the case agent on this investigation.

00:44:28.460 Salvatore Sparaccio.

00:44:29.920 And as you guys know, the case agent is the guy that runs the investigation.

00:44:33.000 So one thing I really like about this documentary is that they give you insight from the actual

00:44:37.400 case agents and agents involved in the case.

00:44:39.560 So you guys get a more in-depth look at the investigation.

00:44:42.020 I didn't make any overt threats, but the implied threat, I'm the boss of the family, you got

00:44:46.800 to pay.

00:44:48.040 I want $120 a week for 10 weeks.

00:44:50.760 The boss offers a repayment plan.

00:44:53.280 Although the mob is charging little more interest than a credit card company, the penalty for

00:44:58.520 defaulting on the loan has a far higher price.

00:45:01.620 For the next 10 weeks, the FBI gives Andruzzi the money to make his payments.

00:45:15.440 And each time he takes the money to the bookmaker, the FBI records the conversation, building their

00:45:21.800 case against Salvatore Sparaccio.

00:45:26.280 Each payment is evidence of the crime, of racketeering.

00:45:29.320 But the FBI is not interested in making low-level gambling arrests.

00:45:35.700 They have a much bigger target.

00:45:40.180 The ultimate goal is to destroy the Philadelphia Cosa Nostra family as a crime problem.

00:45:49.800 The tactics we use are to attack the hierarchy.

00:45:53.960 The structure is the target, and we attack the target through the hierarchy.

00:46:03.340 They need more information.

00:46:06.240 So on Christmas Day, when they know it will be closed, the FBI breaks into the bakery shop.

00:46:12.640 We proved to the judge that gambling activity and loan shopping activity was taking place in

00:46:18.060 an Italian bakery.

00:46:19.060 The judge authorized us to put microphones in.

00:46:24.440 For the next several months, the FBI records the conversations inside the bakery.

00:46:28.700 We began listening to conversations of Salvatore Sparaccio, who was claiming to be the boss of the

00:46:37.900 Philadelphia Cosa Nostra family.

00:46:41.080 Although Sparaccio claims to be the head of the family, the FBI wire soon makes it clear

00:46:46.360 that Sparaccio is not one of the big Philadelphia mafia bosses.

00:46:49.920 He is little more than an employee, but the FBI doesn't know who he's working for.

00:47:03.720 Thinking he can lead them to his boss, the FBI surveillance tracks Sparaccio to a law office

00:47:09.380 in Camden, New Jersey.

00:47:10.580 Just so you guys know, Camden is extremely dangerous, consistently in the top 10 most

00:47:19.520 dangerous cities in the United States.

00:47:20.900 It's right across the bridge from Philadelphia and Pennsylvania.

00:47:25.620 What's his name?

00:47:26.480 No, Camden, New Jersey.

00:47:27.940 Oh.

00:47:28.280 Very dangerous place to be.

00:47:29.320 I would not go there if I were you guys.

00:47:32.180 Stay away from Camden.

00:47:33.220 He works with other members of the Philadelphia mafia, including one man well known to the FBI,

00:47:39.860 John Stanfa.

00:47:44.100 John Stanfa is a Sicilian immigrant and a maid member of the Sicilian mafia.

00:47:49.740 He worked as a driver for the late Angelo Bruno, a.k.a. the Gentle Don, former.

00:47:54.500 And just so you guys understand, we break down what a maid guy is, La Cosa Nostra,

00:47:58.520 or Merta, we break down all the terminology and the phrases in the first episode that

00:48:04.260 we did on the mafia.

00:48:05.600 So please go back and watch that if you haven't already.

00:48:07.840 So all this will make a lot more sense to you because the mafia definitely uses a lot

00:48:12.180 of different terms and vernaculars that you may or may not be aware of unless you're

00:48:15.960 very familiar with the Italian mafia already.

00:48:17.980 Our head of the Philadelphia family.

00:48:21.740 If I'm not mistaken, Stanfa was the first Philadelphia maid guy.

00:48:26.580 Who is it?

00:48:26.900 If I'm not mistaken, I think Stanfa, this guy that I mentioned right now, was the

00:48:30.940 first maid guy in Philadelphia.

00:48:32.960 Oh, the guy that got killed.

00:48:34.360 Okay.

00:48:34.680 He got maid in the 50s and then, yeah, he got killed in 80.

00:48:37.340 Yeah.

00:48:37.760 That makes sense because he became the boss.

00:48:39.180 Yeah.

00:48:39.380 If you know guys like maid guy, it's a guy that belonged to, I mean, that became a

00:48:44.080 member of the mafia of a crime family.

00:48:46.580 Exactly.

00:48:47.500 Like a real member.

00:48:48.780 Yeah.

00:48:49.020 The former mafia boss in 1981 and was apprehended in Maryland.

00:48:53.640 Actually, um, a maid guy is somebody that, uh, uh, signs the Umurta.

00:49:00.020 Yes.

00:49:00.600 That goes through the ritual.

00:49:01.780 Yeah.

00:49:02.160 That goes through the ritual.

00:49:03.300 He's recognized.

00:49:03.740 That's a maid guy.

00:49:04.560 Yeah.

00:49:04.820 He's recognized by the family.

00:49:06.040 And we talk about the ritual as well, guys, in that first episode, what it takes to be

00:49:09.560 a, you know, what the ritual is, all that stuff.

00:49:11.360 So we're going to assume you guys already know all that and continue on.

00:49:15.340 So go back and watch that one.

00:49:16.360 If you don't know what we're talking about, please.

00:49:18.200 He was convicted of timestamps are in there and everything too.

00:49:20.880 So no excuse.

00:49:22.620 Perjury in his testimony before a grand jury that was probing Bruno's death.

00:49:27.380 He went to jail for eight years.

00:49:31.640 When he was released, the Philadelphia mafia put out a contract on his life for the killing

00:49:36.960 of Bruno.

00:49:37.480 Now, special agent Fred Walsh is a member of the FBI's organized crime squad.

00:49:43.520 Only through the intercession of his Gambino associates up in New York, the contract was

00:49:49.500 taken off him and he was allowed to live.

00:49:51.760 And just so you guys know, the organized crime squads for the FBI are the ones that are

00:49:55.580 actually out there on the streets doing stuff.

00:49:57.100 You know, they're terrorism squads, they're JTTFs, they're espionage squads, etc.

00:50:02.020 I'll be honest with y'all.

00:50:03.040 They're not really doing too much.

00:50:04.200 They're not hitting action like that because espionage and terrorism is foreign people

00:50:07.400 between my friends.

00:50:08.080 So the organized crime squads is where you want to be at.

00:50:10.400 The agents that do them, that are working all the time are the bank robbery squads.

00:50:14.260 And I know some of you are saying like, wait, what the hell are you talking about, Myron?

00:50:16.740 Yes.

00:50:17.100 What?

00:50:17.580 The bank robbery guys.

00:50:19.360 What the fuck?

00:50:20.120 Are working because they get called all the time.

00:50:22.600 And surprisingly, people still rob banks in 2023.

00:50:25.500 I know.

00:50:25.960 It's fucking crazy.

00:50:26.600 I got a friend.

00:50:27.180 He's FBI agent.

00:50:27.820 And to this day, I still ask him, people still rob banks?

00:50:30.600 And he's like, yep, dude, people still fucking rob banks.

00:50:32.560 So, yeah, the guys that I would say they're probably working the most hours and out there

00:50:38.420 the most are guys in bank robbery squads and guys that are in organized crime squads.

00:50:43.000 But the rest of the FBI, man, a lot of them ain't doing shit.

00:50:45.560 Keep it a thousand with y'all.

00:50:46.320 Oh, and then child pornography, too.

00:50:47.500 They're probably working a good amount, too, because you guys would be surprised at how

00:50:51.100 often you can, you know, be doing search warrants and arresting people for CP.

00:50:55.500 It's fucking insane.

00:50:56.420 After Nicky Scarfo went to jail.

00:50:59.440 But HSI does most of the CP nowadays.

00:51:01.440 We HSI definitely does way more child exploitation cases than the FBI does nowadays.

00:51:07.280 Stanford returned to Philadelphia.

00:51:09.920 He went to work in the construction business and laid low for a while.

00:51:15.720 It seems relatively quiet.

00:51:17.560 So when he started to come to power and we started to notice he was making a name for

00:51:21.900 himself, it came as a kind of a surprise to us.

00:51:24.020 Thanks to the cooperation of the young college student, the FBI has now identified the man

00:51:30.440 they believe is running organized crime in Philadelphia.

00:51:34.360 We had put away the previous boss and most of the hierarchy of the family.

00:51:39.080 We felt if we could put Stanford away that we would go a long way towards the ultimate

00:51:44.220 goal of eliminating the Philadelphia family as a crime problem.

00:51:48.300 On the street, informants confirm the FBI suspicion that John Stanford is the new boss of the Philadelphia

00:51:56.940 mafia.

00:51:58.720 Once you determine that an individual like Stanford is taking the family over, you want to see

00:52:02.720 how he intends to run it.

00:52:05.100 Contact your informants, see what they can provide.

00:52:09.720 Stanford maintains a low profile.

00:52:11.860 He runs things like the gentle Don before him.

00:52:16.540 He engages in traditional mob activities such as loan sharking, gambling and extortion.

00:52:28.120 The FBI wants to find out where he is conducting business.

00:52:32.800 According to FBI informants, high level secret mafia meetings are being held in the lawyer's

00:52:38.280 conference room.

00:52:39.080 The informants told us that that's where they were meeting, that they felt secure there.

00:52:45.520 Since it was a lawyer's office, they felt secure there from FBI eavesdropping.

00:52:50.200 We decided that it would be a very...

00:52:52.340 Guys, the reason why they feel secure, and I'll break it down a little bit further for

00:52:55.720 y'all, is because typically conversations between a criminal and their lawyer is called

00:52:59.840 privileged information, which means, you know, if I have a lawyer, right, and I want to tell

00:53:04.820 my lawyer, hey, listen, I fucking did it.

00:53:06.860 I'm a criminal.

00:53:07.320 You know, I killed him, et cetera.

00:53:09.180 That's considered a privilege and can't be used against me, okay, because the discussions

00:53:13.760 between you and your attorney are supposed to be, you know, obviously sacred.

00:53:17.560 It's an attorney-client privilege.

00:53:19.040 So also spousal privilege is a thing where your wife is under no obligation to testify

00:53:23.900 against you in a criminal case as well.

00:53:25.880 That's also privilege.

00:53:26.700 So, you know, so it's smart that these guys, right, would conduct all their criminal activity

00:53:33.400 and their meetings at a lawyer's office thinking, yo, you know, the FBI wouldn't think to bug

00:53:38.640 a lawyer's office because if they do, then they're going to have to do something where

00:53:42.500 they get a taint team to listen to all the recordings.

00:53:44.900 There's going to be a lot of bullshit involved with, you know, bugging a lawyer's office.

00:53:49.560 It's very problematic.

00:53:50.880 You're going to need the highest levels of Department of Justice approval to do it.

00:53:53.480 So I can see why they did that.

00:53:55.100 Very, very smart.

00:53:56.060 Also, you guys, you got to remember, I don't know if I mentioned this before, but you guys,

00:53:59.560 I mean, got to remember that for mafia informants or mafia guys that wanted to work with a

00:54:06.920 prosecutor or like, or with like, you know.

00:54:10.560 You mean a lawyer?

00:54:11.160 Yeah, or a prosecutor, a lawyer, or just work with the law enforcement.

00:54:16.660 They were called Pentito.

00:54:17.960 And for the mafia members or for the, yeah, for the mafia, it's like, basically it's been

00:54:24.200 like a snitch.

00:54:25.220 Like any informant will be like a snitch.

00:54:27.240 So it's not also like front upon, it's just like, they also get like extremely rejected

00:54:33.900 from any, yeah, mafia, like, yeah.

00:54:38.500 I mean, I don't know how to say this, but like.

00:54:42.540 Being a snitch ain't going to work, guys.

00:54:44.260 That's basically what she's trying to tell y'all.

00:54:45.520 She's going to leave a crew, snitches get stitches.

00:54:48.880 Very good place to put microphones.

00:54:52.580 Agents prepare an affidavit to wire the premises.

00:54:56.220 Oh, that's going to be a nightmare.

00:54:58.460 And remember what I tell you guys, an affidavit is the agent, you know, preparing all the

00:55:02.220 facts, writing it down, why he needs to wiretap or listen to individuals real time for a

00:55:08.240 Title III.

00:55:09.060 And that's going to be tough because you're going to need to get an informant and there's

00:55:11.860 somebody to establish that the establishment is being used to conduct criminal activity

00:55:16.500 and then wiretapping a law office.

00:55:18.720 Oh God, that's, that's going to be, I could already see the nightmare that would be, because

00:55:22.680 you're going to need the highest levels of the Department of Justice to like approve

00:55:25.620 that.

00:55:26.100 You're going to need a tank team to listen to all the recordings.

00:55:28.500 Then they go ahead and give you what actually is criminal information.

00:55:31.340 And they go ahead and take all the privilege information out because they're not involved

00:55:34.500 in the case.

00:55:35.000 And the case agent can't hear privilege information because it's going to fuck them up.

00:55:37.320 So many different, you know, nuances that could cause issues.

00:55:41.320 So, um, the mafia was smart for using, or in this case, the Philly mob was smart for

00:55:45.600 purpose of using a law office.

00:55:47.300 I guess that's probably why they decided to do it in Camden, shitty ass Camden.

00:55:50.860 We recognize that intruding into a lawyer's office was extraordinary.

00:55:55.540 The affidavit had to go down to the FBI headquarters.

00:56:00.400 The director of the FBI personally signed off on it.

00:56:03.020 Not only that, it's got to go up the Department of Justice through the U.S.

00:56:07.500 Attorney's Office and, uh, OEO.

00:56:10.680 Cause I've, I know this because I've done a wiretap myself.

00:56:13.440 Um, office of electronic, um, fuck.

00:56:15.820 I forget.

00:56:17.160 It's like, uh, implanting.

00:56:19.180 Yeah.

00:56:19.400 Wiretap is when you're listening to, or a title three in this case, the proper way to

00:56:23.040 call it as a title three, a title three is when you're listening to oral or verbal communication

00:56:27.680 that's coming in or text communication coming in real time.

00:56:31.300 So what that means is as the target is receiving the information, you're receiving it too.

00:56:35.960 And how, how's that happening?

00:56:37.200 Like you, you plant a microphone or somebody or.

00:56:40.280 Yeah.

00:56:40.440 It could be you plant a microphone at, in their house.

00:56:42.840 It could be you, you listen on their phones.

00:56:44.920 It could be you're intercepting their text messages.

00:56:47.220 It could be you're intercepting their email.

00:56:49.620 But the point of title three is you're receiving the information real time.

00:56:53.820 As the criminal's getting it, you're also getting it.

00:56:55.860 Okay.

00:56:56.080 I mean, and question, like, how does that work at all?

00:56:59.080 I remember once you said that the DEA is experts in like, uh, planting, uh, title threes.

00:57:05.920 Yeah.

00:57:06.400 Because they do it so much.

00:57:07.380 Yeah.

00:57:07.640 Yeah.

00:57:08.120 How does that work that out?

00:57:09.320 Like, how do they do that?

00:57:10.500 Because I, I've seen plenty of Marvin movies and they, that's how they get like all this

00:57:15.280 evidence against these people is that there will be like planting microphones and like

00:57:20.500 putting microphones in like their houses and stuff.

00:57:22.980 How does that, like, how do they really want me to go through it?

00:57:26.180 I mean, it's extensive.

00:57:27.440 I can, I can explain if you want me to, I really want to know because I don't really,

00:57:31.720 I mean, these guys, even Michael French said it, like he, he, uh, they will like, when

00:57:36.520 he got arrested, I think he mentioned that they had a lot of like conversations that

00:57:41.900 they had in, in his house with his wife.

00:57:45.480 Yeah.

00:57:45.840 Well, I don't think they wiretapped him.

00:57:47.600 I think they wiretapped other people that talked about him.

00:57:49.940 Yeah, probably, but also, um, these guys, these mafia people will have terminology only

00:57:57.600 in case the, the law enforcement will have like information against them that they will

00:58:02.020 get by doing this kind of methods.

00:58:04.440 So I really want to know how they do it.

00:58:06.640 Like how law enforcement will be like, they'd be like what, but like bad boys be faking.

00:58:10.980 Like they are like, uh, I don't know if you see the movie, but they will be faking of

00:58:15.120 being like the play guys to check on the house and they'll be planning like microphones and

00:58:18.880 shit.

00:58:19.260 Yeah.

00:58:19.620 So, okay.

00:58:20.440 So I'm going to go ahead and explain this, but I need you guys to like the video.

00:58:23.240 All right.

00:58:23.520 Because this is, um, I mean, you don't have to explain it if you don't, if you don't

00:58:27.200 want to, but no, I can, I can.

00:58:28.780 It's just that it's, it's a little, I'll try to do it quickly.

00:58:32.000 So, um, so this is how it works for you to get a title three.

00:58:36.280 You need a lot of information, right?

00:58:37.720 So if you want to wiretap someone's phone, for example, right?

00:58:39.900 I'll give you an example.

00:58:40.660 You want to wiretap a criminal's phone.

00:58:42.540 Let's say I know that Tom is the head of a drug trafficking organization, right?

00:58:48.700 But I know he is, but I don't necessarily have evidence yet.

00:58:52.740 Well, I know a guy that works for him.

00:58:55.480 That's a, that's a, a regular guy that sells drugs, right?

00:59:00.500 So what I do is I arrest that guy for selling drugs, his, his lackey, let's say his name

00:59:06.860 is John, right?

00:59:08.420 And I'm like, listen, John, I know you work for Tom selling drugs.

00:59:12.940 I know he supplies you.

00:59:14.420 You got two choices.

00:59:15.720 Either a, you're going to work for me and you're going to help me get Tom, or you're going

00:59:20.460 to go to prison and you're going to take an out.

00:59:22.460 Okay.

00:59:22.780 That's how they didn't break you back.

00:59:24.600 So he says, okay, I will cooperate with you.

00:59:28.740 Cool.

00:59:29.340 This is what you're going to do.

00:59:30.580 You're going to call Tom right now and say, you need a kilo of cocaine and you're going

00:59:35.020 to go pick it up sometime.

00:59:36.980 All right.

00:59:37.820 I'm simplifying this for you, by the way, guys, you would never say you want a kilo of

00:59:40.480 cocaine.

00:59:40.780 You would say maybe an ounce or whatever, because you don't want them to be scared, but I'm making

00:59:44.040 it simple.

00:59:45.500 He's like, okay.

00:59:46.440 So he calls them.

00:59:47.280 Hey, I need, I got a buyer.

00:59:49.640 I need a kilo.

00:59:51.120 Can I get it from you?

00:59:52.400 Tom says, yeah, I got a kilo coming in a week.

00:59:55.740 Come next Wednesday.

00:59:56.800 Cool.

00:59:58.020 I send John in.

00:59:59.020 I have John wearing a wire.

01:00:01.300 I have him on surveillance with my other people.

01:00:04.020 He goes in.

01:00:05.300 He picks up the kilo of cocaine from him and he comes out.

01:00:10.220 Cool.

01:00:10.660 Now I have John's number.

01:00:13.520 I have this informant that's been talking to him.

01:00:16.480 Now I'd say, okay, John, I want you to make a phone call as well and order more.

01:00:21.000 He calls again and says, yo, I need more.

01:00:23.380 John says, yes, I can go ahead and get you more drugs.

01:00:26.020 No problem.

01:00:26.480 I got it.

01:00:27.160 Cool.

01:00:28.300 Now I say, I need to listen to John's phone.

01:00:31.940 Okay.

01:00:32.560 Or excuse me, Tom's phone.

01:00:33.680 Oh, wait.

01:00:34.220 Isn't this guy, John, getting like more charges to his like sentence?

01:00:37.560 No, because I'm directing him to commit criminal activity.

01:00:39.980 Okay.

01:00:40.540 I'm directing him.

01:00:41.340 So he's working as an informant.

01:00:44.200 You can commit crime as an informant if I'm directing you to do it.

01:00:46.780 Okay.

01:00:47.280 And he's not getting charged for it.

01:00:48.360 He's not going to get charged for it.

01:00:49.220 He's basically working off the charge that I got him for.

01:00:51.240 Okay.

01:00:51.740 Right.

01:00:52.740 So now I, now I go to the prosecutor and say, Hey, listen, prosecutor, I need to listen to Tom's phone so that I can see who he's getting the drugs from.

01:01:02.780 Because obviously Tom has a connect who's getting him large quantities of drugs.

01:01:06.620 Awesome.

01:01:07.600 So now I write up an affidavit.

01:01:09.480 It's going to be long.

01:01:10.620 And I'm going to write how, uh, John, my informant talks to Tom on the phone.

01:01:16.720 And this phone that John talks to Tom on is used to commit criminal activity.

01:01:22.200 And I need to establish that my informant is committing criminal activity with this bad guy.

01:01:26.940 And this is the phone number that he's using.

01:01:28.280 I need to listen to this phone so that I can identify other conspirators.

01:01:31.420 Okay.

01:01:32.060 Right.

01:01:32.900 So I write up this affidavit.

01:01:34.820 It's typically very long.

01:01:36.160 I need to write why I need to, you know, and here's the other thing too, with the affidavit, you have to establish that you exhausted all other investigative steps.

01:01:43.420 Okay.

01:01:44.160 That's something right there.

01:01:45.240 What do you mean by that?

01:01:45.980 Oh, shit.

01:01:46.720 So I need to say, I've done surveillance.

01:01:50.440 I've done trash pulls.

01:01:51.980 I've tried getting an undercover agent in.

01:01:54.620 I've tried X, Y, Z.

01:01:56.140 I cannot do anything else to exploit this organization unless I do this Title III, which is fairly easy to establish because, to be honest, you know, watching a guy all the time, you're going to get burned.

01:02:09.420 Trash pulls aren't helpful like that, which is basically when you go pull the guy's trash.

01:02:13.060 Okay.

01:02:13.560 You know, you can only get maybe one informant in.

01:02:15.360 Getting an undercover agent is very difficult and dangerous sometimes.

01:02:18.080 Do you need permission by somebody or, like, a court or something?

01:02:21.120 Well, I'm going to say that.

01:02:22.120 So you write the affidavit up, right?

01:02:23.280 And you give it to the prosecutor.

01:02:25.860 Prosecutor.

01:02:26.240 You and the prosecutor go back and forth.

01:02:27.500 Make sure it's, you know, legally sufficient.

01:02:29.700 You've established everything that you need.

01:02:31.620 You've exhausted all the other investigative options.

01:02:33.760 And then it goes to the top prosecutor.

01:02:37.940 Then it goes to the Department of Justice.

01:02:39.240 And then they review it.

01:02:40.760 And then they say, okay, it's good to go.

01:02:42.040 And then you turn it on and you can finally start listening to the guy's phone.

01:02:44.580 And then as you listen to the guy's phone, guess what?

01:02:48.060 You listen to him talking to Timothy, fucking Jamal, another guy from all different parts of the country getting this cocaine.

01:02:57.820 Now what you can do is you can write wiretaps for all their phones, too.

01:03:00.660 And you get a RICO.

01:03:01.860 And then you go ahead and you do a big conspiracy case.

01:03:05.540 But that's how it starts.

01:03:06.780 I gave you guys a very simplified version.

01:03:08.620 There's more with, like, toll analysis and everything else like that.

01:03:11.720 But in general, that's how you get a wiretap going in a drug investigation.

01:03:16.640 I did it off a drug investigation because that's the easiest way to articulate it.

01:03:19.960 That's how we got the Black Dugger family.

01:03:24.060 So y'all ain't going to get sauce.

01:03:25.560 Who else is going to teach you guys how to do a fucking wiretap or how a wiretap works anywhere else on YouTube?

01:03:29.640 Nobody else.

01:03:30.400 Like the goddamn video.

01:03:31.380 You guys know what I'm saying, Angie?

01:03:32.000 Yeah.

01:03:32.380 I mean, that's how they got the Black Dugger family.

01:03:34.760 Remember that they got a bunch of informants to get it.

01:03:37.240 And they, like, connected the dots.

01:03:38.700 Yep.

01:03:39.300 And also, yeah, it's pretty much like the movies then.

01:03:41.980 Yeah.

01:03:42.540 It is, but it takes a lot of probable cause to get up on a wiretap.

01:03:47.120 It's not easy.

01:03:47.760 That's the one thing that the movies think is easy.

01:03:49.740 No, it's extremely difficult to get a wiretap.

01:03:52.100 But you don't need, like, an order from somebody then.

01:03:54.060 Yeah, so it goes – here's the thing.

01:03:55.860 It goes from you to the AUSA.

01:03:58.700 Once the AUSA says it's good, he's got to send it to the USA in charge of his area, who's presidentially appointed, by the way.

01:04:05.740 Then from him, it's got to go to a district – it's got to go to OEO, which is Department of Justice, for another review.

01:04:11.760 Once that's approved, then it goes to a district judge.

01:04:15.460 Then you go to the district judge and you sign it.

01:04:17.360 And the district judge might still say, I need some other – more shit.

01:04:19.520 Okay, let me –

01:04:20.280 It has, like, four levels of people it goes through.

01:04:23.420 Like filters.

01:04:24.240 Yeah, but, like, how long does that take to get approved then?

01:04:27.440 That's so annoying.

01:04:28.300 Yeah, it's a long-ass time.

01:04:29.320 I remember when I did my affidavit, I was going back and forth, like, for a month.

01:04:33.400 But long-ass time.

01:04:34.440 How long?

01:04:35.420 It took me, like, a month.

01:04:36.700 A month?

01:04:37.500 Like, it took me, like, a month to write the affidavit.

01:04:40.580 And then go back and forth, everything, yeah.

01:04:42.560 And the bad guy was switching his phone number in between.

01:04:45.240 I had to keep updating the new phone number and the phone calls.

01:04:48.460 But then, I mean, in this month or whatever time, this guy, John, can be killed for even, like, suspicious – yeah, like, getting the suspicion of working with you guys.

01:04:59.540 Yeah, I mean, that's why, you know, you got to do everything in your power to make sure that your informant is protected and you're not making it too hot.

01:05:06.320 You're only making dirty calls when you need to, so it's not too easy.

01:05:08.940 Yeah.

01:05:09.620 There's a lot of shit that goes into it.

01:05:10.900 I simplified it for you, but, yeah.

01:05:13.740 Man.

01:05:14.320 Yeah.

01:05:14.640 It's not easy.

01:05:15.200 But, yeah, wiretaps, everyone thinks it's easy to get a wiretap.

01:05:18.640 It's extremely difficult, guys.

01:05:20.560 Extremely difficult.

01:05:21.280 And I'm talking to you guys as someone who actually wrote a wiretap.

01:05:24.520 I'll put it this way.

01:05:26.100 90% of federal agents have never done a wiretap in their life.

01:05:31.600 90% easily.

01:05:32.780 Are you sure?

01:05:33.360 90% easily of special agents have never done a wiretap in their life.

01:05:37.740 I can concretely say that.

01:05:39.260 Did you ever do that?

01:05:40.680 Yes, I did one.

01:05:41.580 You did one?

01:05:41.920 That's how I know.

01:05:42.640 Okay.

01:05:43.060 And I was the affian on it.

01:05:43.940 That's how I know.

01:05:44.720 But 99% of, like, you know what?

01:05:47.160 Maybe even more.

01:05:47.980 Because the only agency that really does wiretaps, there's only, like, three or four agencies

01:05:51.120 that even do wiretaps.

01:05:53.080 HSI, DEA, and FBI.

01:05:56.660 DEA agents, a good percentage of them do wiretaps because they want to get to 13.

01:06:00.200 But most HSI agents have never done a wiretap.

01:06:02.620 I remember when I was.

01:06:04.380 In your case, why did you do it?

01:06:06.240 Why did I do it?

01:06:06.960 Yeah.

01:06:07.680 Because I was a go-getter.

01:06:09.140 I was a hard worker.

01:06:09.740 Everyone used to get mad at me, though, because they're like, bro, you're making us work.

01:06:12.160 What the fuck?

01:06:13.440 Because wiretaps need a lot of surveillance and shit.

01:06:15.360 A go-getter.

01:06:15.620 I never heard of that before.

01:06:16.740 But, like, what was your case?

01:06:18.860 Like, what do you hope?

01:06:19.320 It was a drug case.

01:06:20.320 Okay.

01:06:20.740 It was a drug case that I did it on.

01:06:22.200 But there was also some, like, violence involved and shit like that, too.

01:06:24.700 Okay.

01:06:25.000 So, but, yeah, it was a drug slash organized crime case.

01:06:30.380 I'm sorry.

01:06:31.020 I hope I'm not asking stupid questions.

01:06:32.840 No, no, no.

01:06:33.220 These are good questions.

01:06:33.980 A lot of people ask this.

01:06:34.840 But, like, but, yeah, like, and I'm sure the audience probably has these questions, too.

01:06:39.120 But, yeah, it's, yeah, easily, 90% plus of special agents have never done a wiretap.

01:06:45.360 And here's the other thing.

01:06:46.400 Some other agencies can't do it.

01:06:48.360 Can't?

01:06:48.720 They can't because only under, okay, now we're, yo, this is probably going to be one

01:06:53.060 of the most informative episodes of FedReacts you guys have ever seen.

01:06:56.780 Hey, don't do a microphone for that, man.

01:06:57.940 Yeah, don't do a microphone for that one, man.

01:06:59.180 Because that one gets the sauce right now.

01:07:00.640 The real judge gives the, oh, my bad.

01:07:04.060 So, hold on one second.

01:07:05.400 Let me go ahead and.

01:07:08.700 What you're going to look for?

01:07:10.220 Okay.

01:07:11.460 18 U.S.C.

01:07:12.740 I kind of wonder if, like, planting, like, wiretaps, wiretaps something.

01:07:19.080 A house or, like, somebody, like, a mafia boss, like, you know, the Bad Boys movie.

01:07:25.380 It's kind of like that.

01:07:26.560 Like, you have to go, like, undercover and do it.

01:07:29.120 Or, like, how does that work?

01:07:30.820 If they actually do it.

01:07:31.940 I don't know if that.

01:07:32.620 Here we go.

01:07:33.160 If it happens in the real life.

01:07:34.560 So, here we go right here.

01:07:35.480 It's, um, the definition statute found in 18 U.S.C.

01:07:39.020 Section 2501 defines the terms wire communication, oral communications, state intercept, electronic,

01:07:43.820 mechanical, or other device, person, uh, investigate, or law enforcement officer.

01:07:48.720 Content, contents judge of competent jurisdiction, communication, et cetera.

01:07:53.720 So.

01:07:55.520 What's that?

01:07:56.380 So, basically.

01:07:58.080 Um.

01:07:58.560 Only certain 1811s or only certain special agents can even apply for a wiretap.

01:08:09.120 Uh.

01:08:09.720 Let me see here if it has.

01:08:12.400 Oh, and that's by Cornell Law School.

01:08:14.380 Yeah.

01:08:14.660 So, like, some of them can't even do it.

01:08:16.700 I know DEA, HSI, FBI, those three agencies can do it.

01:08:23.020 I think ATF can do it, too.

01:08:25.440 Um.

01:08:26.840 Totally prohibits unauthorized interception.

01:08:28.640 Uh.

01:08:38.640 I'll find it for y'all.

01:08:40.300 Mm-hmm.

01:08:40.640 But not every single 1811 or special agent can actually do it.

01:08:45.420 Only certain agencies can do wiretaps.

01:08:48.540 Oh, do you think we can find that in the internet?

01:08:51.260 Yeah.

01:08:52.040 Um.

01:08:54.800 Let's see here.

01:08:55.780 Let's add it to a miscellaneous provision of the Violent Crime Control Act.

01:09:02.740 Uh.

01:09:05.980 Yeah, there's a lot that goes into wiretaps, guys.

01:09:08.280 It's not as easy as CV tries to make it.

01:09:10.720 Like, wiretapping someone's phone, it's actually very difficult.

01:09:14.080 And the reason why it's so difficult is because it's the highest level of invasion on someone's privacy when you're listening to their phone calls.

01:09:20.200 And you've got to keep in mind, when you're listening to their phone calls, you're listening to everyone that's calling them.

01:09:23.800 So, some people might not even be criminals.

01:09:25.780 So, that's why it's so, uh, it's so invasive.

01:09:28.700 We should do a video.

01:09:29.920 Just call it, like.

01:09:31.740 On wiretaps?

01:09:32.660 No.

01:09:33.500 Like, answering Angie's annoying questions about law enforcement in America.

01:09:37.900 Yeah, it's all good.

01:09:39.020 All right.

01:09:39.400 We'll keep going.

01:09:40.020 So, he's talking about a federal judge.

01:09:41.720 It's got to be a district judge, by the way, guys.

01:09:43.320 It's a federal district judge, not a regular magistrate.

01:09:45.520 FBI, the green light.

01:09:50.980 Agents install a hidden video camera outside the law office so they can monitor anyone who enters or leaves the building.

01:09:58.820 All right.

01:09:59.280 That's just a poll camera.

01:10:00.100 You don't need anything for that because that is considered a public area.

01:10:05.220 So, you can put a poll camera and watch them, no problem.

01:10:07.480 You didn't listen to my questions.

01:10:08.700 I was just asking this.

01:10:10.020 But, like, from inside, how do you get a camera or a microphone inside a house?

01:10:14.380 They do it.

01:10:14.900 So, what they do is they wait when no one's there and they'll do it surreptitiously.

01:10:18.540 They'll secretly sneak in there and put it in.

01:10:21.200 Or, they'll pose as, like, a cable company or something like that.

01:10:24.240 Oh, okay.

01:10:24.940 They've done that before, too.

01:10:26.500 Okay.

01:10:27.120 How about now?

01:10:27.920 But, they have to have the court order to do so first.

01:10:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:10:30.720 It's like bad boys.

01:10:31.860 A special FBI entry unit will install a hidden microphone inside the law offices.

01:10:37.740 Oh, there we go.

01:10:40.800 Yeah, it depends on the situation.

01:10:42.700 Normally, it's better to do it under a disguise.

01:10:45.280 But, other times, you don't have that opportunity because they might not have work coming in or whatever it is.

01:10:49.180 Like, they might not need electricity done or redone or a plumber or any of that.

01:10:53.580 Like, so, they just go in at night late when no one's there and they break in.

01:10:59.840 This is also done a lot in national security cases where someone is, like, a spy or something.

01:11:03.580 They'll go in there and they'll break in and put cameras in.

01:11:05.940 Hey, we saw it in Ana Montes' video.

01:11:07.600 Yes, yes.

01:11:08.040 And that's different.

01:11:09.060 Now, when you go through a FISA court, that's completely different.

01:11:12.260 You don't need as much probable cause.

01:11:13.620 You could violate all kinds of rights when it comes to espionage and national security.

01:11:17.520 When it's just a criminal case, you need a lot of probable cause.

01:11:19.600 When it's national security, that Patriot Act, they don't give a fuck.

01:11:23.040 Make a surreptitious entry into the second floor suite.

01:11:25.600 In terms of the actual entry into the premises, it's what I regard to be one of the most dangerous things the FBI does because you're burglarizing someone else's property.

01:11:39.860 Although you have authority to be there, the person, if you encounter someone, he doesn't know that you have authority to be there.

01:11:47.060 Inside, the agents fear they've been discovered.

01:11:53.760 An armed deputy sheriff is inside the building.

01:11:56.480 The night before we went in, the re-elect the sheriff campaign moved into the ground floor.

01:12:03.940 The agents making the entry were surprised by a deputy sheriff.

01:12:07.720 Fortunately, they were able to conceal themselves.

01:12:10.760 He got in and got out before there was any problem.

01:12:13.140 The technicians install a microphone in the conference room.

01:12:35.940 The surveillance agents will first try to identify each suspect and determine their roles in the organization.

01:12:43.140 There's 18 FBI agents who do nothing but physical and photographic and video surveillances.

01:12:50.700 Most of their work they did for the organized crime squad.

01:12:53.940 So we've got a lot of manpower out there.

01:12:56.080 And we've got people who know how La Cosa Nostra works.

01:13:00.520 And we can a lot of times figure out a hierarchy just by watching the way that they behave towards one another.

01:13:07.360 That coupled with information coming from informants can tell us who the hierarchy is.

01:13:14.620 Agents monitoring the conversations have to match the voice on the wire to the face in the video surveillance.

01:13:20.300 John Stanton was very easy.

01:13:23.080 He had a very heavy Italian accent.

01:13:25.180 So it was very easy to figure out when he was speaking.

01:13:29.160 But the agents have a problem.

01:13:31.620 The conversations we intercepted in the office indicated to us that they were leaving the conference room and going somewhere.

01:13:40.360 After going to all the trouble to plant the wire, the mob boss moves the meetings.

01:13:46.540 The surveillance agents will have to find out where the meetings are now taking place.

01:13:50.860 They will have to place another bug.

01:13:52.680 A few days later, the FBI learns from an informant that a high-level sit-down is about to take place at the law office between John Stanton and several associates.

01:14:11.540 They need to get the new bug in place before the meeting.

01:14:16.300 But they don't know where the meeting will be held.

01:14:18.560 Agents dispatch an undercover detective to follow Stanford into the office.

01:14:25.200 Philadelphia detective Mark Pinero gets the job.

01:14:28.980 We tried to come up with a reason to actually go into the law firm to get a closer look at what was going on.

01:14:38.920 So we had come up with a cover story utilizing a name of an attorney that we knew had left that firm.

01:14:47.240 But it does not go exactly as planned.

01:14:51.000 This unknown individual held the door for me to go in first, which kind of set me back because I wanted to go in second.

01:14:57.800 I wanted to see where they were going before I was attended to.

01:15:02.700 But I was relieved when I walked in and the receptionist greeted John Stanton and John Stanton told her, let him know I'm here.

01:15:13.720 And the receptionist immediately keyed her intercom and let the lead attorney of this law firm know that John was there and to send him in.

01:15:27.480 So not only was able to get her to identify John Stanton, I was able to stand there and watch him go down to the actual office of this lead attorney at this law firm.

01:15:39.700 With this information, a federal court approves an affidavit for a second break in at the office.

01:15:50.080 Agents install hidden microphones in the attorney's office.

01:15:52.900 Shortly after the new bugs are placed, agents hear some alarming news on the wire.

01:16:04.520 The mob bosses are afraid they are being watched.

01:16:08.060 They hire a private counter surveillance contractor to sweep the law offices for bugs.

01:16:12.900 If he finds a listening device, the entire operation could be destroyed.

01:16:25.180 The FBI in Philadelphia is closing in on mob boss John Stanton.

01:16:30.520 They learn he is conducting mob business in an attorney's office.

01:16:35.760 Agents place listening devices in the office.

01:16:38.360 But Stanford calls in a man to sweep for bugs.

01:16:47.040 Agents watch as the sweeper enters the building.

01:16:53.980 Their entire case could collapse if he finds their bugs.

01:16:57.140 I'm just going to take him.

01:17:02.300 There they come.

01:17:04.600 What's going on here?

01:17:05.580 But after a few tense minutes, the private contractor completes his sweep without finding anything.

01:17:15.120 It sort of brought a smile on everybody's face because they basically brought in an expert who didn't detect anything.

01:17:24.140 So that would bring a sort of a feeling of ease on their part.

01:17:28.620 And I guess our expectations were that they would be even more at ease to discuss further criminal activity.

01:17:36.380 Now, with microphones in the conference room and the lawyer's private office, the information begins to come in.

01:17:43.340 The FBI learns that John Stanton is having problems with a group of young mobsters.

01:17:48.640 Born and raised in South Philly, their allegiance is still with Nicky Scarfo and the mafia regime before Stanford took over.

01:17:58.540 They are known as the Young Turks.

01:18:01.400 As far as they're concerned, Philadelphia is and always has been their turf.

01:18:05.860 And the Young Turks deserve to be running the crime family, not newcomer John Stanfa.

01:18:13.940 That would be the best, John.

01:18:16.320 Joey Merlino is the boss of the Young Turks.

01:18:20.060 Michael Canglini is the number two man.

01:18:24.900 Joey and Michael have known each other since grade school.

01:18:27.620 FBI Special Agent Gary Langdon is the co-case agent.

01:18:36.040 They didn't like the fact that John Stanfa, who they considered an outsider, would come in and take over the mob family.

01:18:44.100 And so they...

01:18:45.200 And the co-case agent, guys, is the guy that also runs the investigation with the main case agent.

01:18:49.820 And typically, you know, when you have a case big like this, you're going to need two, three co-case agents a lot of the times.

01:18:55.400 So, and when you got like a case like this, it's going to be mafia, whatever.

01:18:59.220 You're going to need as many people as you can.

01:19:01.120 So a case like this is being worked with by the entire squad.

01:19:03.860 All 10, 15 agents are all working one big case together.

01:19:07.900 And the case agents are the ones that are dictating the case.

01:19:10.280 Because you can't write all the affidavits yourself.

01:19:12.140 You can't be dealing with all the informants yourself.

01:19:13.820 You need someone else that also has a strong interest in the investigation being done correctly alongside you.

01:19:19.460 And the co-case agent is supposed to do that.

01:19:21.280 So, yeah, big cases, at least two to three case agents easily, sometimes even more.

01:19:27.120 I remember when I had my big OCDF case, I had a case agent from DEA, I had a case agent from ATF, I had a case agent.

01:19:33.200 Obviously, I had two case agents myself from HSI.

01:19:36.880 I had a Border Patrol guy assigned to me.

01:19:38.540 So it was a big deal.

01:19:40.260 And when you have big cases like this, it's a lot of manpower, guys.

01:19:42.680 We're trying to organize them all in a group, even though they were part of the overall picture.

01:19:49.680 And they wanted to be in charge.

01:19:54.860 Informants tell the FBI that the young Turks are not taking orders from John Stanford.

01:19:59.540 I don't care what you kind of believe about what they have, right?

01:20:02.400 He doesn't want the city.

01:20:03.840 They bragged about who they were and who they were aligned with.

01:20:08.720 Bragged about how they were going to take the city over.

01:20:10.500 They were the legitimate successors to the previous mob members under Nikki Scarfell.

01:20:18.120 They were going out and shaking down bookmakers, drug dealers, and even shaking down legitimate businesses

01:20:27.620 and weren't sharing the profits, you know, kicking upstairs to Stanford.

01:20:32.680 The young Turks feel they're entitled to run the city and the Philadelphia Mafia.

01:20:47.740 The aging John Stanford, the old world's Sicilian boss, resents the ostentatious lifestyle of the young Turks.

01:20:55.160 The young Turks, if you will, were very, very flamboyant.

01:21:02.500 They'd go into the clubs on Delaware Avenue, throw their weight around, push people around,

01:21:08.580 trade on the fact that they were connected to the local Cosa Nostra family,

01:21:12.380 and, in general, call attention to themselves, which is not a good thing.

01:21:18.800 If you're running a Cosa Nostra family, you should be low-key.

01:21:21.860 Hey, girls, get in the car.

01:21:24.000 Jake, come on, get out of here.

01:21:25.260 Slide it up.

01:21:26.440 The young Turk boss, Joey Merlino, has a different idea of how a Cosa Nostra boss should live the life.

01:21:33.100 He was the kind of guy who felt that when he went into a restaurant, because...

01:21:38.100 And remember, guys, you know, this contradicts the omerta, or the code of silence, all right?

01:21:43.340 And we go about this in more detail in the first episode of the Italian Mafia.

01:21:46.760 But these new school guys don't get it.

01:21:48.920 They don't understand the rules that you're supposed to...

01:21:51.680 They don't understand the code.

01:21:52.800 Yeah, they don't understand the code.

01:21:53.920 And this is bad.

01:21:54.520 You don't want to bring attention to yourself.

01:21:56.000 It's the last thing the Mafia wants when it comes to the Cosa Nostra family.

01:22:01.280 Yeah.

01:22:01.840 Because he has a lot of influence of Angelo Bruno, which was the guy, the Mafia boss, that

01:22:07.300 kind of like, among all the Mafia bosses, he was the one that wanted the peace.

01:22:14.940 He wouldn't like the violent of the Mafia.

01:22:18.640 He would be trying to negotiate the peace in between.

01:22:23.420 And he's smart because violence, what does it do?

01:22:25.060 It brings attention.

01:22:25.700 It brings attention.

01:22:26.380 That's why he didn't like the violence.

01:22:28.140 So he ended up getting killed himself.

01:22:29.960 But, you know, when he was in rule, you know, he was keeping things nice and quiet, which

01:22:35.160 is why, if you think about it, the Philadelphia Mafia lasted a lot longer than the New York

01:22:39.580 guys.

01:22:40.360 Yeah.

01:22:40.600 And he was very powerful, too.

01:22:42.180 Yeah.

01:22:42.760 So.

01:22:43.740 Which, I mean, hell, you could tell they were powerful because you guys have been asking

01:22:46.640 us to do these guys for a while.

01:22:47.840 Yeah.

01:22:48.420 He shouldn't have to pay.

01:22:50.640 This was easily adopted by his entourage, and they became a problem for everybody.

01:22:55.400 There was, there were fights, there were shootings, there were, it's just not the way to run a

01:23:03.120 Cosa Nostra family.

01:23:05.460 Attracting all that attention to yourself, the police begin to know then where you are

01:23:10.260 and who you are, and it's just not a good thing.

01:23:13.480 John Stanford was particularly angered by the Young Turks' involvement in the sale of

01:23:18.600 illegal narcotics.

01:23:20.340 That was the wave of the future, the easy way to make money.

01:23:25.420 Traditionally, the mob frowns upon having its members engaged in drug dealing.

01:23:31.540 Now, that's not to say that they don't do it.

01:23:33.520 They get around that by having an associate or something deal drugs, and then they'll tax

01:23:39.380 that individual and take a percentage of it, but Stanford, you know, he thought drugs were

01:23:43.920 a dirty business, and it draws a lot of attention, again, to the family, and he didn't want to

01:23:48.660 do that, and these guys were just the fine.

01:23:50.800 And this was confirmed also, guys, by Michael Francis when he brought him in.

01:23:54.660 The old school guys almost always stayed away from drugs, and if they did, if they were

01:23:59.980 involved in drug trafficking and they got caught, it was something that was punished by death

01:24:04.080 because the mafia looked at it as a very dirty business, a lot of snitches, a lot of rats

01:24:08.620 brought attention to you, and guys, back then, drug trafficking got really high sentences.

01:24:14.880 So it's one thing to get arrested for maybe some tax evasion, maybe some fraud, maybe some

01:24:21.100 illegal gambling.

01:24:22.360 You don't do that much time for that.

01:24:23.500 You take a Pinterest, they would call it, right?

01:24:25.140 You know, it is what it is, right?

01:24:26.220 Forget about it.

01:24:27.400 But you go down for 10 kilos of Coke, you're going to do some time.

01:24:30.300 And not only that, every agency investigates drugs.

01:24:32.600 So that's what they did not want, my friend.

01:24:36.300 So did some guys be involved in some drugs?

01:24:39.000 Yes.

01:24:39.240 John Gotti, et cetera, famously was involved in drug trafficking, but they did everything

01:24:43.120 in their power so other people wouldn't know about it, right?

01:24:45.120 And they caught that, and they knew that he was supposed to be drug trafficked because

01:24:47.300 when they listened to him on wiretaps, he would talk about, hey, we can't be talking

01:24:50.580 about drugs like this, blah, blah, blah, because if their family finds out, it was what

01:24:53.340 it is.

01:24:53.460 So it's something that the guys did on the side to earn, but if you got found out or caught

01:24:58.140 for it, you definitely were going to get it, get whacked.

01:25:00.160 But these new school guys, they wanted to get involved in drugs when the old school

01:25:03.000 guys stayed away from that.

01:25:04.980 I ain't even doing it.

01:25:05.700 Not to be confused with the Sicilian mafia, who they were definitely involved in drugs.

01:25:09.300 The old, you know, the original town guys, old town guys, yes, they were involved in

01:25:13.340 drug trafficking, which you guys go ahead and watch our podcast on the Banano Crime

01:25:16.200 Family, where we talk about that in more detail.

01:25:18.800 But the American Italian mafia did not participate in drugs overtly.

01:25:23.900 And if they did, it caused serious consequences, man.

01:25:26.540 They were more concerned with other ways to earn.

01:25:28.280 It was very frowned upon.

01:25:29.580 It was very frowned upon, guys.

01:25:30.540 So go ahead and watch that podcast on the Banano Family.

01:25:32.860 We talk about Banano and obviously the, um, uh, goddammit, um, Joe Pistone, right?

01:25:39.200 The, uh, FBI agent, uh, AKA Donnie Brasco.

01:25:42.180 We talk about that in detail as well.

01:25:44.160 Um, cause the Bananas were involved in some drug trafficking cause they had a tight connection

01:25:47.560 with the guys out of the old Sicilian family.

01:25:49.720 But, uh, but yeah, the American Italian mafia did everything in their power.

01:25:53.440 A lot of the times to stay away from drugs.

01:25:54.960 Some guys were involved, but it was not supposed to be done guys.

01:25:58.280 Once we heard that there was friction developing, we were looking to see how Stanford was going

01:26:09.260 to handle it.

01:26:10.260 Okay.

01:26:10.460 Was he going to be aggressive and, uh, you know, take extreme measures?

01:26:15.140 Or was he going to try and mollify these people and to quiet them down and get them under his,

01:26:20.820 uh, uh, wing, so to speak?

01:26:25.520 But Joey Merlino isn't going under anyone's wing.

01:26:29.880 The young Turks strike back at Stanford.

01:26:32.480 73-year-old Joseph Gatone is one of Mafia boss John Stanford's most loyal employees.

01:26:42.220 Gatone is a bookmaker, a collector of street taxes.

01:26:46.620 Four gunshots shattered the daily routine of Joseph Gatone.

01:26:50.180 The old man's blood marks the beginning of a deadly civil war.

01:26:58.340 The FBI and the Philadelphia Organized Crime Task Force surveil top bosses of the Philadelphia

01:27:04.700 mafia.

01:27:06.240 Friction between feuding factions of the crime family increase and a bloody civil war breaks

01:27:11.800 out.

01:27:12.080 Philadelphia police officers arrive at the scene of the shooting.

01:27:18.180 The victim's keys are still in the ignition and the engine is still running.

01:27:25.000 Two bullets penetrated the victim's neck.

01:27:28.380 A third bullet entered his temple.

01:27:31.080 A fourth grazed the bridge of his nose and shattered the passenger side window.

01:27:35.880 When Agent Marr arrives on the scene, police have already checked the registration of the car,

01:27:40.660 but they don't yet know who the victim is.

01:27:48.560 Agent Marr recognizes the victim from previous investigations.

01:27:54.120 Gatone is a longtime member of the Philadelphia crime family, currently under the leadership

01:27:58.480 of John Stanford.

01:28:01.560 Several of Gatone's neighbors witnessed the shooting, but no one can identify the lone hooded

01:28:06.480 gunman.

01:28:07.000 Special Agent Jim Marr suspects Joey Merlino's young Turks are behind the killing.

01:28:15.620 Where he was killed, the manner in which he was killed indicated to me that the Merlino

01:28:20.780 faction was sending a message to Stanford and his people.

01:28:26.220 We're here and we are to be reckoned with.

01:28:28.940 Agents monitor their wiretaps.

01:28:36.840 But no one is talking about the murder.

01:28:39.920 Special Agent Fred Walls.

01:28:42.700 Initially, at the time that this bookmaker was murdered, we weren't sure who was involved.

01:28:48.420 There was nothing definitive on the wire after the bookmaker had been murdered.

01:28:56.180 There was a reference to the fact, but nothing that would indicate to us that Stanford had

01:29:00.340 a belief someone had done it or someone hadn't done it.

01:29:03.680 Investigators are certain the murder is mob related, but they have no proof.

01:29:07.540 When they speak to Stanford himself, he claims to know nothing.

01:29:14.000 But Stanford strikes back.

01:29:16.780 Five weeks after the murder of John Stanford's bookie and tax collector, Michael Changlini,

01:29:22.260 the young Turks number two man, is coming home after a basketball game.

01:29:26.540 Two men armed with shotguns, open fire.

01:29:40.260 That's some old school shit right there.

01:29:42.360 Not giving a fuck.

01:29:43.580 Yeah, we're just going to go ahead and shoot broad daylight.

01:29:45.580 We don't care.

01:29:46.520 And I'll tell you all this.

01:29:47.780 When you're in the middle of a gang war and you're intercepting stuff on a phone,

01:29:51.060 that's a nightmare for you because if you get information that someone's going to be killed,

01:29:54.580 you have to let them know.

01:29:56.540 Matter of fact, John Gotti would be dead if it went out for the FBI, guys.

01:30:01.220 The FBI actually notified John Gotti when they were going to try to whack him after he took power

01:30:07.620 because he actually killed the boss prior, which was a big no-no for the mafia

01:30:13.960 where you would go ahead and kill a boss without certain approval.

01:30:17.380 And it was, goddammit, the chin, the mob boss, the chin,

01:30:23.100 who actually wanted John Gotti gone, but the FBI notified John Gotti

01:30:27.080 and he was able to evade a certain meeting where they were going to kill him at,

01:30:31.160 which we broke down in another episode.

01:30:32.780 So go back and watch that episode on the crazy Don, the chin.

01:30:35.480 Somehow, Changlini, his wife, and two children were uninjured in the attack.

01:30:49.300 Investigators recovered 12-gauge shotgun shells from the front yard

01:30:52.800 and shotgun pellets from the ceiling of the living room and dining room.

01:30:56.400 Despite the brazen attack on Changlini and his family.

01:31:02.460 He was just like, he just started running.

01:31:05.120 That's why he goes, I mean, wow.

01:31:07.720 He just saw the guys coming and he ran inside.

01:31:10.840 Yeah.

01:31:11.580 Yeah, it's a reenactment.

01:31:12.580 I don't know if it went exactly like that, but yeah.

01:31:15.380 Well, I mean, he escaped.

01:31:17.800 It's crazy.

01:31:18.700 Yeah.

01:31:19.320 Yeah.

01:31:19.640 Yeah.

01:31:20.060 He's lucky he didn't get killed.

01:31:21.240 He won't cooperate with the detectives.

01:31:24.600 Now, Umerta, of course, he's not going to say nothing.

01:31:27.680 He wasn't going to say anything.

01:31:29.800 They just don't talk to law enforcement.

01:31:31.800 They feel they're going to handle it themselves.

01:31:33.880 It's business.

01:31:35.060 Okay.

01:31:35.400 And it's none of our business.

01:31:37.160 So you're not going to get anything out of them.

01:31:39.960 The Young Turks number two boss isn't talking.

01:31:43.400 But the FBI suspects the attack is payback for the murder of John Stanford's bookie.

01:31:48.100 After the bookmaker's murder and then the attempt on Michael Cinglini, we believed that we were

01:31:55.320 going to see an increase in violence.

01:31:57.880 There was going to be a potential mob war.

01:32:01.320 Fearing this, the FBI petitions a federal court to expand the eavesdropping.

01:32:09.380 In the spring of 1992, they get...

01:32:12.560 Translation, they write more affidavits to rationalize having more bugs on the premises.

01:32:18.100 The court order they need.

01:32:20.060 Agents place bugs in seven new locations, including lawyers' private offices, the law

01:32:25.540 library, the television room, and the lunchroom.

01:32:28.860 Yeah, that's crazy if they were able to do that.

01:32:30.480 That means if they...

01:32:31.300 Since they were able to go ahead and put it in a lawyer's office, guys, that tells me

01:32:34.060 that they had a taint team ready.

01:32:35.580 And what a taint team is, guys, is a team that purposely is going to listen to information

01:32:40.560 that more than likely isn't going to be usable for a criminal case.

01:32:43.500 And they're going to filter out the stuff that is pertinent to the case and the stuff

01:32:47.100 that isn't pertinent, they're not going to use.

01:32:48.920 And these are agents that are not involved in the investigation at all because the case

01:32:51.860 agent can't hear information like that because it's going to taint him.

01:32:54.980 This is also the case when you deal with classified information.

01:32:57.860 You got something?

01:32:58.720 No, I'm just shocked that they actually went into the office and planned it like microphones.

01:33:04.240 Yeah, because basically what they're arguing is that they're having meetings at different

01:33:08.800 parts of the office.

01:33:09.600 So the only way that we're going to hear all the conversations is if we put bugs everywhere.

01:33:13.960 And for this to happen, I already know this.

01:33:15.440 They're not saying this in this documentary because they don't want to put you all to

01:33:17.480 sleep, but I already know that they have a taint team in place.

01:33:20.000 This is very common.

01:33:21.620 A taint team is a group of agents that listen in and anything that's privileged or classified

01:33:27.600 or something that isn't supposed to, the case agent isn't supposed to hear, they're

01:33:31.820 going to listen to it and then they're going to give the case agent the stuff that is a

01:33:34.840 part of the case and then they're going to go ahead and deal with everything else that's

01:33:37.360 considered tainted.

01:33:38.640 These are civilians, right?

01:33:39.780 Like they don't know.

01:33:40.480 No, no, no.

01:33:40.640 They're other agents.

01:33:41.520 Oh, there are other agents, but they're agents that are not they're not into case agents.

01:33:46.000 Yeah.

01:33:46.600 Yeah.

01:33:46.780 So, for example, when they raided Trump's house, they knew a bunch of the information was

01:33:51.000 going to be co-mingled with lawyer information.

01:33:53.160 So a taint team went in, looked at it first, and then they gave the actual search team the information

01:33:57.880 that was pertinent to the case.

01:33:59.440 Okay.

01:34:00.320 Does that make sense?

01:34:00.840 That's a lot of work, though.

01:34:01.680 Yeah, it is a lot of work.

01:34:02.900 It is a lot of fucking work.

01:34:04.180 The entire field office was probably involved in this.

01:34:10.100 The new wires immediately start paying off.

01:34:14.440 How we going, huh?

01:34:15.740 Early in May of 1992, FBI cameras catch Stanford arriving at the law office with his conciliary

01:34:22.160 and Joseph Changlini, brother of the Young Turks second in command.

01:34:26.900 Inside, John Stanford angrily announces that he knows the young Turks are looking for him.

01:34:35.240 They want him dead.

01:34:36.120 But Stanford doesn't want a war.

01:34:37.120 He wants to make one last attempt at diplomacy.

01:34:44.380 I guess he thought, as a concession to them, he would be able to control them.

01:34:56.360 There's a saying, keep your friends close, keep your enemies even closer.

01:34:59.520 This was the way to keep an eye on them.

01:35:01.820 But we fully anticipated that we were going to see an increase in violence.

01:35:05.460 But we were surprised by what did happen.

01:35:10.360 Informants tell the FBI that Stanford invites Joseph Changlini's younger brother, Michael,

01:35:15.420 and the young Turk boss, Joey Merlino, to a secret meeting.

01:35:19.600 Here, Joey and Michael become made members of La Cosa Nostra.

01:35:23.960 You have to swear to place the family before anything else in your life.

01:35:32.640 God, your own personal family, your mother, your father, your wife, your children.

01:35:38.940 If the family calls you, you come before them.

01:35:43.120 Now, as made members of La Cosa Nostra, the two young Turks enjoy special privileges.

01:35:48.960 The benefits that come with that are that you can conduct your rackets, whatever they may be,

01:36:03.000 without fear of interference from someone who is not a member.

01:36:07.820 The family in a dispute will always decide in your favor if you are a member and the other person is not.

01:36:15.260 A member cannot be killed unless the boss of that family to which he's a member approves.

01:36:26.720 For John Stanford, promoting the young Turks is his final act of diplomacy.

01:36:31.740 The FBI and the Organized Crime Task Force will keep a vigilant watch to see if Stanford's bold move stops the violence.

01:36:45.460 But agents still need to collect more information about the crime family to shut them down for good.

01:36:50.840 To an informant, they learned the law office is not the only place where Stanford and his associates are congregating.

01:37:07.080 We found out that Stanford had opened up a dinette next to another business he owned, which was a food distribution business.

01:37:13.740 And surprisingly, Stanford actually worked at this place every day.

01:37:21.920 You know, John Q.

01:37:22.860 Citizen, he would go to work and he actually worked there.

01:37:24.900 You see him out there sweeping and cooking and handling stuff.

01:37:29.220 But he was also meeting his family members there and discussing mob business.

01:37:33.660 So the next step logically is to attempt to get a Title III bug installed in the dinette so that we can listen to it.

01:37:44.220 There you go. See, Title III.

01:37:45.660 Like, agents always call it Title III.

01:37:47.360 We don't call it fucking tapping phones.

01:37:50.380 Just say a T3.

01:37:52.040 Conversations he's having with these members and associates of the family.

01:37:56.720 Once the microphone is installed inside the dinette, the FBI hears that an angry John Stanfa is still having problems with the young Turks.

01:38:09.320 He requests a final sit-down with Joey Merlino.

01:38:14.880 Joey Merlino and Michael Canglini pay a visit to Stanfa.

01:38:18.520 Gamblers are complaining that the young Turks are not honoring their bets.

01:38:29.600 Merlino assures the boss he'll fix the problem and make good on the debts.

01:38:38.120 The meeting ends amicably.

01:38:41.560 Perhaps there can be peace within the family.

01:38:44.160 Early in March, FBI surveillance agents observed Joseph Canglini and a waitress opening up the Stanford dinette.

01:39:01.320 It's almost exactly one year after his brother Michael was nearly gunned down at his home.

01:39:06.480 His activities were easy to document.

01:39:12.440 He was regular.

01:39:13.720 He got up in the morning and he went to work.

01:39:17.120 But on this morning, Joseph Canglini's routine takes a terrifying twist.

01:39:26.380 Four men pull up and open fire on Canglini and the waitress,

01:39:30.540 reigniting the bloody war between the old and the new mafia of South Philadelphia.

01:39:38.460 Oh, shit! Oh, shit!

01:39:41.440 On March 2nd, 1993, in South Philly,

01:39:45.360 underboss Joseph Canglini and a waitress opened John Stanfa's diner.

01:39:54.720 Shortly after 6.30 a.m.,

01:39:57.120 four gunmen launch an attack.

01:39:58.920 Canglini is gunned down.

01:40:03.120 The surveillance agent alerts FBI HQ and calls 911 for an ambulance.

01:40:10.520 The FBI agent on surveillance arrives on the scene.

01:40:16.300 Joseph Canglini has been shot repeatedly in the head, neck, and chest.

01:40:20.900 The waitress is unharmed.

01:40:22.160 Canglini has somehow managed to survive the deadly attack.

01:40:31.540 Though severely wounded, he can talk.

01:40:33.720 You couldn't get a statement out of him.

01:40:39.980 And even if he knew who did it, he wasn't going to implicate anybody.

01:40:43.080 He was part of the mob, the Omerta, the code of silence.

01:40:47.400 And they would take care of this on their own.

01:40:49.560 They had to know who they were.

01:40:50.680 He saw them.

01:40:51.360 We suspected that it was a group from the Young Turks.

01:40:58.880 But he basically told us he didn't know anything.

01:41:02.480 Now, I remember, guys, this is the 1990s, okay?

01:41:11.600 You ain't going to be able to get, like, the best type of quality off of fucking VCR, VHS, okay?

01:41:17.480 It's not like nowadays where you can, like, zoom in and get this best, you know, type technology.

01:41:22.700 This is the early 90s, man.

01:41:24.700 So they're limited at best here.

01:41:27.480 But in the early morning darkness, the images are too dark to identify anyone.

01:41:34.100 The video was very grainy, very blurry.

01:41:37.760 It was very hard to identify with any kind of particularity of features where you would recognize who actually went in.

01:41:46.580 But you couldn't see four shapes going in.

01:41:49.340 Then you go to the audio and you hear screaming and you hear shots.

01:41:54.700 And then you hear someone yelling, move, move.

01:41:58.000 And then they exit the place and they drive away.

01:42:02.200 That's basically all we had.

01:42:04.420 You couldn't say with any reasonable certainty who actually went in there and shot Joseph Cinglini.

01:42:10.620 But agents are still surveilling the law office.

01:42:14.440 In the listening post, wiretaps record a chilling conversation between Stanford and a mob associate.

01:42:20.780 John Stanford suspects Michael Cinglini is behind the attempt to kill his own brother, Joseph, at the restaurant.

01:42:29.620 Yeah, Michael and Joey were on the opposite sides of internal war within the Stanford family.

01:42:35.700 They were half brothers.

01:42:36.580 And it didn't make any difference.

01:42:41.260 He wanted to.

01:42:42.040 He thought his brother, Joey, was on the wrong side and he's going to take him out.

01:42:46.340 For John Stanford, there is only one choice.

01:42:49.500 Eliminate Joey Merlino and the Young Turks.

01:42:51.960 So he starts to recruit his own muscle to send them out and to start stalking these Young Turks

01:43:01.720 and trying to kill Joey Merlino, Michael Cinglini and the people associated with him.

01:43:09.360 Undercover FBI agents deliver a warning to Merlino and Michael Cinglini.

01:43:20.960 When we're aware of the fact that violence is going to occur or may occur,

01:43:26.960 and we think we know who the violence is going to occur against,

01:43:30.340 we have an obligation to go out and warn them.

01:43:32.800 John Stanford is sending hit teams into the streets with orders to gun down Merlino and Cinglini.

01:43:40.700 The Young Turks shrug off the FBI warning.

01:43:44.240 Even though they know their lives are in danger, they refuse to cooperate.

01:43:52.160 The Young Turks should have listened to the FBI.

01:43:56.760 A Stanford hit team tracks them down and opens fire in broad daylight.

01:44:02.800 Michael Cinglini is shot in the heart and dies on the street.

01:44:07.300 Joey Merlino is wounded.

01:44:11.620 It is clear to the FBI that John Stanford means business.

01:44:20.320 He's taken up the challenge and he's retaliated with a lot of force.

01:44:25.240 So that's where we are right then and there.

01:44:27.820 We believe that Stanford is responsible for it.

01:44:30.480 Now we have to prove it.

01:44:32.800 Three hours after the shooting, South Philadelphia police officers respond to a burning vehicle.

01:44:44.400 The car matches the description of one seen by witnesses at the shooting.

01:44:48.160 Police run a trace.

01:44:51.960 A common tactic after a vehicle is used in a, obviously, a violent or serious crime burned down, you know, to destroy evidence.

01:45:01.200 Learned that it was leased to a member of the Stanford crime family.

01:45:04.240 That night, police questioned Phil Coletti and his wife.

01:45:12.400 She tells police she reported the car stolen.

01:45:15.780 Coletti says he has been home all day.

01:45:19.880 Nice alibi.

01:45:20.840 The FBI views the couple's alibi with skepticism.

01:45:26.440 Coletti becomes the first suspect in the shooting murder of Michael Canglini.

01:45:30.240 Several days later, the FBI gets a lead on the second shooter.

01:45:37.400 The FBI had received a call from a physician who said that he had treated an individual who came in with burns.

01:45:44.380 He felt rather suspicious.

01:45:46.820 FBI agents find John Vesey at home.

01:45:50.280 He, too, is a known member of the Stanford crime family.

01:45:54.560 Agents ask Vesey what happened to his hand.

01:45:57.060 And he says he had an accident with his barbecue grill.

01:46:03.080 Yeah, with his barbecue grill.

01:46:06.280 His hand was burned when he spilled lighter fluid.

01:46:13.880 Vesey insists the burn was an accident.

01:46:17.580 He says he knows nothing about the murder of Michael Canglini in the shooting of Joey Merlino.

01:46:21.900 But when investigators check out the grill, they discover it runs on propane,

01:46:30.240 which conflicts with Vesey's story that he was using lighter fluid when he burned himself.

01:46:36.660 It aroused our suspicion and kind of pointed us toward Vesey more so than anybody else.

01:46:43.100 The FBI suspects two members of the John Stanfa crime family in the murder of Michael Canglini

01:46:48.840 and the shooting of young Turk boss Joey Merlino.

01:46:53.720 But before the FBI can bring the shooters to justice,

01:46:57.560 Joey Merlino and the young Turks try to get their own revenge.

01:47:02.740 John Stanfa is riding in a 1976 Cadillac Seville.

01:47:07.740 He's headed south on the Schuylkill Expressway with his son Joseph and a trusted driver.

01:47:12.480 The van pulls up next to the Cadillac.

01:47:21.160 Two gunmen thrust nine millimeter machine pistols through portals cut in the side of the van.

01:47:27.060 And they open fire.

01:47:28.420 A full-scale mafia civil war rages on the streets of Philadelphia.

01:47:38.300 Violence explodes with a brazen rush hour attack on Sicilian mob boss John Stanfa.

01:47:44.800 The gunfire misses John Stanfa, but his son Joseph is hit in the face.

01:47:50.440 Stanfa's driver rams the van, forcing it off the highway.

01:47:53.500 What was really brazen about it was on a highway like that,

01:47:57.880 random shots could have struck and hurt, even killed any innocent people who were on there.

01:48:04.580 Investigators have no doubt the attack on Stanfa is Joey Merlino's revenge for the murder of Michael Canglini.

01:48:11.660 Showed you the extent of the violence these people were willing to employ

01:48:15.280 and the grudge they bore against Stanfa.

01:48:20.480 Police find Stanfa at the hospital.

01:48:22.400 Despite the brazen attack on him and his innocent young son,

01:48:27.140 the Cosa Nostra boss claims he has no idea who tried to kill them.

01:48:31.840 And of course, it's the old, I don't know who would have done this to me.

01:48:37.020 And we don't get anything out of him.

01:48:42.680 It is only a matter of time before innocent civilians get caught in the crossfire.

01:48:47.180 And it's time to turn up the heat on the warring mob.

01:48:56.240 Any known Stanfa or Merlino associates seen driving around South Philadelphia

01:49:00.920 becomes the subject of a routine traffic stop.

01:49:05.240 Authorities arrest eight mobsters for carrying weapons.

01:49:08.160 They confiscate .380, .45, and .38 caliber semi-automatics.

01:49:13.720 The FBI has no doubt the young Turk's boss ordered the hit on John Stanfa.

01:49:20.040 But feds can't prove it.

01:49:25.460 Joey Merlino has to be yanked off the streets.

01:49:28.060 The FBI arrests him for a parole violation of a 1990 armored truck robbery.

01:49:41.180 With Joey Merlino off the streets,

01:49:43.280 it is now time for the FBI to focus its sights on John Stanfa's crew.

01:49:48.080 The agent's target murder suspect, John Vesey.

01:49:53.360 The professional hitman is one of John Stanfa's soldiers.

01:49:59.900 But tonight, thanks to a New Jersey firearms violation

01:50:03.620 and the threat of a long jail sentence,

01:50:06.440 Vesey has agreed to wear a wire for the FBI.

01:50:09.980 He was a very tough, tough individual.

01:50:12.040 And he did some construction work as a hired laborer

01:50:15.760 for John Stanfa's brother-in-law, who was in construction.

01:50:19.060 And he caught the eye of Stanfa.

01:50:20.460 And Stanfa realized this kid was a tough kid.

01:50:23.340 And he could, you know, he intimidated people.

01:50:26.260 Under Stanfa, Vesey became a loan collector,

01:50:28.940 an enforcer, and a killer.

01:50:34.120 Now he claims he feels the weight of the murders he committed.

01:50:37.060 All these things, plus the fact that his brother,

01:50:42.300 who really cared for him,

01:50:44.660 was convinced that John was going to go down

01:50:47.420 and never see the light of day.

01:50:49.040 His brother convinced him that he should cooperate.

01:50:52.560 Vesey was made into the family by John Stanfa.

01:50:57.680 And now he wants to get out alive.

01:51:01.760 There is no way out, guys.

01:51:03.280 So obviously it's either you get out by dying,

01:51:06.320 or you cooperate and try to give another life for yourself

01:51:09.800 with the government versus going to prison for the rest.

01:51:12.220 So he doesn't really have a choice here.

01:51:14.000 You couldn't measure the significance of it,

01:51:15.600 but it was like a coup force that he came on board.

01:51:21.960 Vesey quickly becomes comfortable wearing the wire.

01:51:26.140 He has several meetings,

01:51:27.540 but the conversations don't provide any new evidence

01:51:30.380 against John Stanfa.

01:51:33.920 He's out for a little while.

01:51:35.200 I think he met with one or two people, nothing great.

01:51:39.300 He was a little down about the fact

01:51:41.460 that he wasn't getting the conversations he wanted to.

01:51:43.980 He was really into it.

01:51:48.820 We told him, look,

01:51:49.940 don't worry about it.

01:51:53.360 We've got a lot of time.

01:51:54.760 We'll do it again until we get it right.

01:51:56.880 You know, it's Friday night now.

01:51:59.380 You know, you've worked long and hard for us.

01:52:01.320 Go home.

01:52:02.680 Go home and relax.

01:52:05.660 Don't go out.

01:52:06.720 We'll hook up with you again.

01:52:07.540 We'll do it again.

01:52:09.000 Later that night,

01:52:10.120 John Vesey runs out of luck.

01:52:13.500 And the FBI's organized crime task force

01:52:17.440 is dealt a crippling blow.

01:52:24.560 In a bloody South Philadelphia mob war,

01:52:28.020 the FBI's number one informant

01:52:30.060 is gunned down by mafia hitmen.

01:52:32.160 And the FBI's best chance

01:52:34.600 at busting up a notorious crime family

01:52:36.700 is shattered.

01:52:40.900 FBI special agent Fred Walls

01:52:42.880 is devastated by the news

01:52:44.240 that informant John Vesey has been shot.

01:52:47.320 That's the fucking worst, guys.

01:52:49.260 When your informant gets hit

01:52:50.400 or killed or attacked or whatever,

01:52:52.760 that immediately puts the investigation

01:52:54.200 in a bad spot

01:52:54.860 because now you got a way,

01:52:57.100 okay, I can't put the guy back in

01:52:59.480 because obviously they know he's involved

01:53:00.900 or his life is in danger

01:53:02.060 and I've pretty much been stonewalled

01:53:04.260 in my investigation.

01:53:05.220 So it's a bad look all around

01:53:06.960 any time an informant gets attacked.

01:53:09.500 Guys, remember this was back

01:53:11.980 in the early 90s,

01:53:13.420 mid-90s, late 90s.

01:53:15.040 So all these people were like

01:53:16.720 being investigated by Rico Chargers.

01:53:19.780 For Rico Chargers, sorry.

01:53:21.180 Yes.

01:53:21.780 So yeah.

01:53:23.640 Well, when you hear

01:53:24.680 that someone's been shot in the head,

01:53:26.780 you think the worst.

01:53:28.380 But against all odds,

01:53:29.980 after three .22 caliber slugs

01:53:32.240 slammed into his skull,

01:53:34.140 John Vesey is still alive.

01:53:37.240 I'm shocked.

01:53:38.500 This guy was shot in the head.

01:53:40.520 He's giving an interview.

01:53:42.760 And he proceeds to tell what happened.

01:53:46.540 Earlier that night,

01:53:47.920 after he removed the wire

01:53:49.260 and the FBI agents went home,

01:53:51.500 Vesey ran into John Stanford's underboss

01:53:53.900 and one of his soldiers.

01:53:54.920 And they tell him,

01:54:00.020 we've been looking for you.

01:54:01.800 We want to get you started

01:54:04.500 in your own bookmaking operation.

01:54:07.220 We're going to show you how to do it.

01:54:09.040 We're going to go over to this location

01:54:10.700 in South Philadelphia

01:54:11.480 above this meat square.

01:54:12.420 For Vesey,

01:54:17.260 it was just another

01:54:18.020 late night business meeting.

01:54:19.800 He wasn't wearing the wire anymore

01:54:21.340 and he thought he had nothing to fear.

01:54:24.620 He says he goes up to the room.

01:54:26.900 The main guy is sitting down

01:54:28.120 with him at a table,

01:54:29.520 going over figures,

01:54:30.320 telling him how to take bets,

01:54:31.260 how to write stuff down.

01:54:33.100 The underboss excused himself

01:54:34.220 he has to go to the bathroom.

01:54:34.940 John Vesey heard the sound

01:54:44.460 of the flushing toilet

01:54:45.520 and the door to the bathroom opening.

01:54:47.980 And then he heard the gunshots.

01:54:51.660 Three .22 caliber slugs

01:54:53.600 impacted John Vesey's skull,

01:54:55.940 but he didn't go down.

01:54:57.900 Vesey.

01:54:59.060 Oh, shit.

01:55:00.100 Oh, shit.

01:55:00.820 Oh, shit.

01:55:01.300 Yo.

01:55:02.440 And just so you guys know,

01:55:03.240 .22 caliber is a small caliber.

01:55:05.560 But three to hit him

01:55:07.140 and he's still up?

01:55:08.540 Crazy.

01:55:09.360 Turns around,

01:55:10.060 looks at the guy and says,

01:55:11.200 what the frig are you doing?

01:55:13.400 And of course,

01:55:14.340 the shooter now,

01:55:15.140 he's in shock.

01:55:17.200 So,

01:55:17.700 he throws the gun down

01:55:19.580 and he pulls out a knife.

01:55:23.200 Well,

01:55:23.800 Vesey takes the knife away from him

01:55:25.280 and cuts him

01:55:25.820 and basically incapacitates

01:55:27.020 and throws him on the ground.

01:55:28.280 Wow.

01:55:28.960 He turns to the other guy,

01:55:30.840 the main guy,

01:55:31.340 who's an older guy,

01:55:32.440 and the guy looks at him

01:55:34.120 and he says,

01:55:34.940 John,

01:55:36.240 John,

01:55:36.900 he said,

01:55:37.420 this has all been a mistake.

01:55:38.820 It's a misunderstanding.

01:55:39.840 We're gentlemen here.

01:55:40.520 We can settle this.

01:55:42.040 And Vesey says,

01:55:42.960 get out of the way

01:55:43.880 or I'm going to take you down too.

01:55:47.280 And against all.

01:55:48.560 Yo,

01:55:48.720 if he wasn't informing guys,

01:55:49.880 he probably would have killed him.

01:55:51.340 I'll tell y'all that.

01:55:52.220 Like,

01:55:52.400 if he probably wasn't working for the FBI

01:55:53.920 at that point,

01:55:54.440 he probably would have killed them.

01:55:55.480 John Vesey walks out of the room alive.

01:56:00.940 And that's just good to show you

01:56:02.180 how tough this kid was.

01:56:03.360 I mean,

01:56:03.520 he was tough.

01:56:05.040 And the bullets went into the back of his head

01:56:07.620 and we later found out

01:56:09.260 they had hit the head and come around.

01:56:11.500 Okay.

01:56:11.860 I guess the slugs weren't as strong.

01:56:14.660 It was a 22 caliber long rifle slug.

01:56:18.820 And he took three in the head and survived.

01:56:20.780 Wow.

01:56:22.180 Two weeks later.

01:56:23.960 I'll tell you this,

01:56:24.600 that's going to definitely be evidence right there.

01:56:27.040 Mafia hitman,

01:56:28.220 John Vesey,

01:56:29.040 makes his first appearance

01:56:30.160 before the federal grand jury

01:56:31.720 and testifies against his former crime family.

01:56:34.900 The information he provides

01:56:37.600 is invaluable to the FBI.

01:56:40.560 Vesey names names

01:56:41.800 and gives the FBI

01:56:43.440 At this point,

01:56:44.140 he doesn't give a fuck.

01:56:44.880 They try to kill him.

01:56:45.760 What they need

01:56:46.560 to move against the Philadelphia mob.

01:56:50.180 When the FBI increases the pressure,

01:56:52.760 other mobsters make deals with the prosecutors

01:56:54.980 and become informants for the FBI.

01:56:58.680 And the dominoes begin to fall.

01:57:02.200 On St. Patrick's Day,

01:57:03.620 once you get a high level guy

01:57:04.680 to cooperate,

01:57:05.620 the rest of them

01:57:06.100 have nowhere to run, man.

01:57:07.520 In 1994,

01:57:09.540 24 suspects are arrested

01:57:11.340 on racketeering charges

01:57:12.720 of murder,

01:57:13.800 murder conspiracy,

01:57:15.180 extortion,

01:57:16.200 arson,

01:57:17.020 kidnapping,

01:57:18.100 gambling,

01:57:18.800 and obstruction of justice.

01:57:22.060 Among those arrested

01:57:23.520 is Frank Martinez.

01:57:25.560 He's found guilty of assault

01:57:27.100 and the attempted murder

01:57:28.220 of John Vesey.

01:57:29.220 Vincent Pagano

01:57:34.960 is also arrested

01:57:35.920 and found guilty of assault

01:57:37.380 and the attempted murder

01:57:38.600 of John Vesey.

01:57:39.980 On the same day,

01:57:52.400 John Stanford

01:57:53.160 is arrested

01:57:53.740 on racketeering charges

01:57:55.020 of murder,

01:57:56.020 murder conspiracy,

01:57:57.360 extortion,

01:57:58.240 arson,

01:57:58.940 kidnapping,

01:57:59.840 gambling,

01:58:00.440 and obstruction

01:58:01.140 of justice.

01:58:01.920 They got him

01:58:02.760 with that arson

01:58:03.400 for burning the car.

01:58:07.380 It was a nice,

01:58:09.100 clean,

01:58:09.520 easy sweep.

01:58:10.160 We brought the people in

01:58:11.080 and we were very satisfied

01:58:14.020 with it.

01:58:16.540 Ultimately,

01:58:17.340 27 people are charged

01:58:19.040 with conspiracy

01:58:19.900 and racketeering

01:58:20.740 under the RICO Act.

01:58:21.840 24 defendants

01:58:23.600 are either convicted

01:58:24.520 or plead guilty

01:58:25.740 to the charges.

01:58:27.060 And mind you guys,

01:58:27.800 keep in mind

01:58:28.200 that they had indicted

01:58:29.060 a bunch of them

01:58:29.780 in New York

01:58:30.740 in the mid-80s,

01:58:32.420 so it would just make sense

01:58:34.000 that they'd go after

01:58:34.560 the Philadelphia guys next.

01:58:37.180 I felt pretty good

01:58:38.340 that we did make

01:58:39.220 Philadelphia

01:58:39.720 a little bit safer.

01:58:41.880 It was my job.

01:58:44.360 It was my life's work.

01:58:47.480 I thought we did a good job

01:58:48.980 and I thought

01:58:49.540 that we served

01:58:51.320 the citizenry

01:58:52.120 very well

01:58:53.000 with what we did.

01:58:53.800 We took a very,

01:58:54.740 very violent group

01:58:55.640 and sent a lot of them

01:58:58.120 to jail

01:58:58.560 for a long,

01:58:59.520 long time.

01:59:00.660 And we made

01:59:01.500 Philadelphia

01:59:01.840 a little safer.

01:59:03.840 On July 9th,

01:59:05.180 1996,

01:59:07.080 John Stanford

01:59:07.780 is sentenced

01:59:08.320 to five consecutive

01:59:09.560 life terms.

01:59:11.280 He is serving

01:59:11.960 them at the

01:59:12.660 United States

01:59:13.440 Penitentiary

01:59:14.260 in Leavenworth,

01:59:15.380 Kansas.

01:59:17.220 Yeah,

01:59:17.500 he's probably dead

01:59:18.260 by now.

01:59:19.720 Let me see.

01:59:20.500 John Stanford

01:59:21.200 let me go.

01:59:22.660 Let's see here,

01:59:23.200 guys,

01:59:23.400 if we can find them.

01:59:24.780 We're done

01:59:25.080 with the documentary?

01:59:26.140 Yeah,

01:59:26.380 we are.

01:59:27.740 Guys,

01:59:28.700 the Philly mob

01:59:29.640 hold on one second.

01:59:31.140 Let me

01:59:31.280 go ahead.

01:59:34.120 Was like

01:59:34.720 huge.

01:59:37.600 I mean,

01:59:37.980 they were the main

01:59:38.680 leaders of the

01:59:39.560 gambling businesses

01:59:40.720 in Atlantic City

01:59:42.320 in the mid-90s.

01:59:45.900 The mid-90s.

01:59:48.180 Also,

01:59:48.860 actually,

01:59:50.040 the five families,

01:59:51.560 because they were

01:59:52.160 making these huge

01:59:52.960 amounts of money

01:59:54.400 because of the

01:59:55.040 gambling

01:59:55.380 in Atlantic City,

01:59:57.780 the economy

01:59:58.880 of Atlantic City

01:59:59.580 was just going

02:00:00.120 up,

02:00:00.820 right?

02:00:01.080 So,

02:00:01.400 the five families

02:00:02.100 of New York,

02:00:02.700 they wanted

02:00:03.040 their own cut

02:00:04.140 because,

02:00:04.820 remember,

02:00:05.260 the five families

02:00:05.800 were the most

02:00:06.620 powerful family

02:00:08.280 at the moment.

02:00:10.340 Well,

02:00:10.560 they were always

02:00:11.220 the most

02:00:12.980 powerful ones,

02:00:14.180 but they wanted

02:00:15.060 their own cut

02:00:15.920 of Atlantic City

02:00:18.160 business,

02:00:20.580 right?

02:00:21.140 But they didn't,

02:00:22.260 I mean,

02:00:22.800 they couldn't go

02:00:23.540 to Philadelphia

02:00:24.360 without

02:00:25.220 the boss permission.

02:00:28.240 So,

02:00:28.620 of course,

02:00:29.220 they never

02:00:29.620 were never

02:00:30.880 going to give him

02:00:31.540 the permission

02:00:32.500 to go to Philadelphia.

02:00:33.460 Here he is,

02:00:34.020 right here,

02:00:34.420 guys.

02:00:36.160 John Stanford

02:00:37.180 right here.

02:00:39.260 Found him.

02:00:40.020 John Stanford,

02:00:41.000 register number

02:00:41.660 18048-037.

02:00:45.120 He's at

02:00:45.700 Skugel.

02:00:48.000 He's 82 years old.

02:00:50.080 Here,

02:00:50.460 this is in

02:00:50.880 Philadelphia,

02:00:51.380 if I'm not mistaken.

02:00:52.580 Yeah,

02:00:53.340 Minersville,

02:00:53.860 Pennsylvania.

02:00:55.280 FCI Skugel.

02:00:56.660 It's pronounced

02:00:57.040 Skugel,

02:00:57.660 which is the river

02:00:58.560 in Philadelphia.

02:01:01.360 A medium security

02:01:02.500 federal correctional

02:01:03.500 institution

02:01:04.980 with an adjacent

02:01:05.640 minimum security

02:01:06.340 satellite camp.

02:01:07.120 So,

02:01:07.380 yeah,

02:01:07.600 I mean,

02:01:07.840 he's living

02:01:08.840 decent,

02:01:09.340 you know,

02:01:09.520 medium security.

02:01:11.720 And,

02:01:12.160 you know,

02:01:12.500 release date,

02:01:13.020 he's in there

02:01:13.420 for life,

02:01:13.820 as y'all know.

02:01:14.880 So,

02:01:15.620 yeah,

02:01:16.040 that's where

02:01:17.220 he currently

02:01:17.560 is right now.

02:01:18.780 Here's his

02:01:19.240 Wikipedia page

02:01:20.160 right here.

02:01:21.440 I had it.

02:01:23.900 Bam,

02:01:24.360 right here.

02:01:24.800 Here is John,

02:01:25.400 John Stanford.

02:01:26.480 Giovanni John Stanford

02:01:27.400 is an Italian-born

02:01:28.820 American former boss

02:01:31.160 of Philadelphia

02:01:31.600 crime family

02:01:32.180 from 91 to 95,

02:01:33.380 convicted of multiple

02:01:34.020 towards 95.

02:01:34.560 Stamford's sentence

02:01:35.840 to life in prison.

02:01:38.600 So,

02:01:39.080 yeah,

02:01:39.960 cool.

02:01:40.660 So,

02:01:40.980 guys,

02:01:41.360 that covers

02:01:42.400 the Philly

02:01:43.540 mob

02:01:44.500 part of this case.

02:01:47.100 Hope you guys enjoyed that.

02:01:48.220 We gave you a lot of sauce

02:01:49.160 on how the DEA operates,

02:01:50.600 how wiretaps work.

02:01:52.660 This was a longer broadcast

02:01:53.980 than normal for a Thursday show,

02:01:55.240 but don't forget to like the video,

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02:01:58.180 Andrew,

02:01:58.360 you got anything for the people?

02:01:59.820 No,

02:02:00.240 I'm really happy how this one came out

02:02:01.840 because you gave a lot of sauce

02:02:03.140 of, like,

02:02:04.460 how you worked in the HCI

02:02:06.040 and, like,

02:02:06.520 the law enforcement,

02:02:07.520 like,

02:02:08.140 Intel.

02:02:08.980 But,

02:02:09.300 yeah,

02:02:10.080 I'm pretty happy with this one.

02:02:11.340 It was pretty cool.

02:02:12.400 All right,

02:02:12.640 guys,

02:02:13.160 thank you so much for watching.

02:02:15.040 We obviously really appreciate it.

02:02:16.940 Don't forget to like the video again,

02:02:18.160 guys.

02:02:18.540 Get the engagement up.

02:02:19.700 We'll catch you guys

02:02:20.260 on the next episode of Fed Reacts.

02:02:21.360 Love y'all.

02:02:22.460 Peace!

02:02:25.480 I'm a special agent

02:02:26.400 with Homeland Security Investigations.

02:02:27.440 Okay, guys,

02:02:27.940 HSI.

02:02:28.760 This is what Fed Reacts covers.

02:02:30.060 Defender Jeffrey Williams

02:02:30.840 and Associate YSL

02:02:31.620 did commit the felony.

02:02:32.540 Here's what 6ix9ine actually got.

02:02:34.080 This attack shifted

02:02:36.160 the whole U.S. government.

02:02:37.440 This guy got arrested,

02:02:38.560 espionage, okay,

02:02:39.480 trading secrets

02:02:40.120 with the Russians.

02:02:41.200 John Wayne Gacy,

02:02:42.000 a.k.a. the Killer Clown, okay,

02:02:43.440 one of the most prolific

02:02:44.340 serial killers of all time.

02:02:45.660 Killed 33 people.

02:02:46.640 Zodiac Killer

02:02:47.200 is a pseudonym

02:02:48.080 of an unidentified serial killer

02:02:49.800 who operated in Northern California.

02:02:50.720 All these serial killers guys,

02:02:51.860 they really get off

02:02:52.920 on getting attention

02:02:54.040 from the media.

02:02:55.560 Many years,

02:02:56.140 Jeffrey Epstein,

02:02:57.000 Sex Exploded.

The Debrief With MyronGainesX - June 15, 2023

Fed Explains The Great Philly Mob War

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