The Debrief With MyronGainesX - Fed Explains The Infamous Case Of Jennifer Pan

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00:00:57.460 We're going to be covering Jennifer Pan.

00:00:59.360 This one's a crazy one, guys.

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00:02:00.760 What's up, guys?

00:02:01.460 Welcome.

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00:02:55.340 I had an episode yesterday with some girls. 0.79

00:02:57.260 It went well.

00:02:58.520 We had Zerka in the house and some chicks. 1.00

00:03:00.940 I had to kick out two of the girls because they were annoying as hell. 1.00

00:03:03.440 Well, one girl just literally just wanted to argue the whole time and couldn't even make any solid points. 0.98

00:03:09.340 They were talking shit about you outside.

00:03:11.620 Oh, they were?

00:03:12.380 Yeah.

00:03:12.920 Because I was in the ballet waiting for my car and you just kicked them out.

00:03:18.260 And I was like going down the elevator with them.

00:03:21.600 And when I was waiting in the ballet, they just came out and they started talking shit about you.

00:03:26.760 Of course.

00:03:28.000 What'd they say?

00:03:29.600 That you're toxic.

00:03:30.400 Misogony.

00:03:30.840 Of course.

00:03:32.060 You're toxic.

00:03:33.160 You just want to be right.

00:03:34.720 Whatever, whatever.

00:03:35.560 You know what they always say.

00:03:37.560 Yeah.

00:03:38.200 That was a very interesting conversation.

00:03:39.600 I was just laughing because you kicked them out.

00:03:41.280 It's funny because the biggest thing with that chick, right, was she said that we're teaching guys to be toxic.

00:03:50.680 Wanting women that are younger and, you know, not, you know, with a promiscuous past, et cetera. 0.76

00:03:58.020 That's a toxic mindset, et cetera.

00:04:00.180 We should want girls that are like smart and educated and all this other crap. 1.00

00:04:04.040 And I was like, you know, for the past two hours, I've been listening to you talk about what you want in a man.

00:04:09.060 We went through the calculator, put what you wanted in your guy, make fucking quarter million dollars and all this other crap.

00:04:15.200 And I didn't bat an eye.

00:04:16.400 I didn't say, oh, well, you know, you should really like a fat guy that doesn't have his stuff together.

00:04:20.680 Like, give him a chance.

00:04:21.380 He's a nice guy.

00:04:22.160 Like, why don't you get like you?

00:04:23.480 Dude, that's what you should like.

00:04:24.500 Like, I didn't call her toxic for her once.

00:04:27.540 But she went ahead and said that we're toxic.

00:04:29.440 And I was like, what the hell?

00:04:30.380 So it's like I got fed up.

00:04:31.760 I'm just like, yo, this is ridiculous now.

00:04:33.580 Like, so many women think it's appropriate to tell guys your views and what you want in women is toxic. 1.00

00:04:40.880 And it's like, no.

00:04:42.040 It's like male standards.

00:04:43.380 Like, why is it that male standards are constantly demonized, but female standards, we sit there and celebrate them, right? 0.90

00:04:50.620 Even me, I celebrate them.

00:04:51.760 But tell them, yo, yeah, you should, you should, you know, try to get a guy that's competent in every degree.

00:04:56.700 I don't never shame a girl for what she wants, but women feel the need to always shame men for what they want. 1.00

00:05:01.200 And I just find it crazy, man.

00:05:02.420 It's we literally live in a clown world.

00:05:05.060 Sometimes I think I'm surrounded by morons, which I am a lot of times, unfortunately, which is really sad.

00:05:12.020 But it is what it is.

00:05:14.240 You got that vein popping yesterday.

00:05:16.560 Yeah, dude, I was so annoyed.

00:05:17.980 I was so, so annoyed.

00:05:19.300 And it's always girls like her with the hair hats. 1.00

00:05:21.540 They got the most to say.

00:05:22.740 Hair hats.

00:05:23.100 And she's like, oh, my God.

00:05:24.400 Yeah.

00:05:24.700 Hey, y'all.

00:05:27.580 Yeah, bro.

00:05:29.160 Yeah, man.

00:05:31.400 Tommy Sotomayor was not lying, bro.

00:05:33.520 Yo.

00:05:34.480 It don't matter how educated, whatever, bro.

00:05:36.140 They always are the first ones to say some dumb shit.

00:05:38.080 And just so you guys were wondering, it wasn't even her that I kicked out.

00:05:41.760 I was going to let her dumb ass stay. 1.00

00:05:43.280 She got up to leave when I kicked out the Canadian who was being disrespectful. 1.00

00:05:45.860 That's who I really kicked out.

00:05:47.820 And she was like, who do you think you're fucking talking to?

00:05:50.520 And I was like, what the fuck?

00:05:51.740 Get the hell out of here, bitch. 1.00

00:05:53.020 Like, get out of here.

00:05:55.120 I made a joke that I can't repeat.

00:05:57.060 But, bro, come on, man.

00:05:59.360 I'm about to fuck you up like a certain guy with a certain mustache back in the 1940s.

00:06:03.140 You know?

00:06:05.700 You know?

00:06:07.140 Fucking French, man. 1.00

00:06:08.360 It is what it is.

00:06:09.160 But, yeah, so got her the fuck out of there. 1.00

00:06:13.740 And, yeah.

00:06:15.520 Did she put her shoes outside?

00:06:17.940 I don't know if she did.

00:06:19.520 I don't know if she...

00:06:20.080 You were there.

00:06:21.000 Did she?

00:06:21.540 No, I wasn't here.

00:06:22.700 I left when you started screaming.

00:06:24.100 I was like, no, I'm not going to have this.

00:06:26.260 You left when...

00:06:26.860 I was like, Izzy, it's the main puppet.

00:06:28.960 Izzy was like, yeah, it is.

00:06:30.100 I'm out.

00:06:31.060 I left.

00:06:32.000 I was like, no, I'm not going to have him.

00:06:34.300 I didn't want to see it.

00:06:35.680 No.

00:06:36.300 Fair enough.

00:06:36.920 You losing hairs, as always, with these girls.

00:06:40.200 Yeah.

00:06:41.380 Yeah.

00:06:42.320 You came by...

00:06:43.840 When did you come by?

00:06:45.340 I came around, like, just, like, five minutes before you kicked those girls out. 0.98

00:06:52.060 I left.

00:06:53.340 Shout out to Angie. 0.98

00:06:53.920 She came by and put some laundry in and left. 0.99

00:06:55.980 Yeah.

00:06:56.900 She then came in, put some laundry in, and just left. 1.00

00:06:59.840 I was like, oh, shit.

00:07:00.360 No, I organized the room a little bit because it was a mess, and these things outside here.

00:07:05.360 Yeah.

00:07:05.500 I just, like, look up, and she goes into the room to clean the place up. 0.90

00:07:07.900 So, thank you.

00:07:08.320 I appreciate that greatly.

00:07:09.580 I don't like it.

00:07:10.160 I don't like seeing you.

00:07:10.980 And Angie came from work, too.

00:07:12.580 So, shout out to her for that.

00:07:14.260 Thank you.

00:07:14.720 Yeah.

00:07:15.560 Angie cut her workout shirt to be here with you guys today. 0.99

00:07:17.880 So, yeah.

00:07:19.480 I did.

00:07:19.940 What about you, Mo?

00:07:21.240 What's new with you before we get into this?

00:07:22.760 I actually came straight from the gym on God.

00:07:26.020 So, but, yeah, man.

00:07:28.400 I kept sweating.

00:07:29.220 What's your sweat?

00:07:30.020 Huh?

00:07:30.540 I kept sweating.

00:07:31.320 What's your sweat?

00:07:31.760 I actually take a shower at the gym.

00:07:34.740 So, I come to you clean.

00:07:36.140 I did.

00:07:36.540 Okay, okay.

00:07:38.100 It's part of, like, a normal routine.

00:07:39.700 I always have, like, I literally always have a change of clothes, change of pants, change

00:07:44.360 of drawers, change of socks as I drop my phone.

00:07:48.020 But, you know, it's interesting.

00:07:50.740 I've always, this is back when I was an athlete.

00:07:53.060 I noticed this, too.

00:07:53.660 So, like, guys are always okay, like, with, like, you know, showering at a gym or, like,

00:07:58.640 at the locker room or whatever.

00:07:59.820 That's disgusting.

00:08:00.120 Women never do it, though. 1.00

00:08:01.220 It's disgusting.

00:08:02.200 Like, and I remember when I was on the rowing team, right, and we used to, like, you know,

00:08:06.100 the male athletes were always okay with showering.

00:08:08.540 The female athletes never shower, bro. 1.00

00:08:10.560 Of course.

00:08:10.880 It's disgusting.

00:08:11.780 You know the amount of germs and bacterias and everything, though, from all random people

00:08:16.540 that just shower there? 0.88

00:08:18.480 It's disgusting.

00:08:19.300 Well, they clean it every day.

00:08:20.120 This is when I was at the athletic facility.

00:08:21.580 They clean it.

00:08:23.220 So, we had a very good athletic facility.

00:08:25.480 They used to clean it.

00:08:25.980 They clean it.

00:08:26.520 But female sports, females don't like seeing other, I asked one of the girls one time on 1.00

00:08:31.380 the rowing team.

00:08:31.740 I was like, why don't you ever shower after practice?

00:08:34.120 Like, what the hell's wrong with you guys?

00:08:35.640 And she was like, well, you know, girls are really, you know, awkward with their bodies. 0.99

00:08:39.400 And I was like, oh.

00:08:40.860 No, and also there are a bunch of lesbians, too, that just like to stare. 1.00

00:08:44.820 Like, no.

00:08:46.320 And there are a bunch of, well, at least in my gym, there is a bunch of homeless people

00:08:50.720 and they use like these kind of gyms and they pay the membership just to shower in

00:08:57.360 the gyms.

00:08:58.000 It's disgusting.

00:08:58.780 No.

00:08:59.180 I will never shower in a gym, public gym, ever.

00:09:01.580 Well, I have in the past.

00:09:04.560 I don't care.

00:09:05.140 But, I mean, you know, I think guys are okay with that.

00:09:08.200 But I noticed that with the female and male athletes, the big difference.

00:09:11.460 Anyone that's ever played sports, like maybe Division I or something like that, even Division

00:09:15.460 II or Division III, at a school, the guys will always use the shower, whether it was

00:09:21.020 baseball, us, rowing, basketball, whatever it is.

00:09:24.220 We all use the showers, right?

00:09:25.440 No one cared, right?

00:09:26.300 You just kind of be in your corner, just like, you know, pissed, you know, not pissed, but

00:09:29.880 like, you know, you know, just kind of look at, you don't look at nobody else.

00:09:32.520 They really like that, right?

00:09:34.040 But with the women, they never use a shower. 1.00

00:09:35.660 And I always thought that was weird.

00:09:36.720 But I guess.

00:09:37.660 It's weird.

00:09:38.440 It's not weird at all.

00:09:39.440 It's weird that you guys use those showers.

00:09:41.300 That's actually very weird that y'all don't shower.

00:09:43.760 Yeah.

00:09:44.800 It's a female thing, bro. 1.00

00:09:45.920 I'm telling you.

00:09:46.520 I noticed it when I was in college.

00:09:50.200 Like, females just don't like showering with each other. 1.00

00:09:52.960 Because it's disgusting.

00:09:53.980 I mean, not that we do either, but it's like, bro, we got niggas got to get clean, man.

00:09:56.960 Right.

00:09:57.340 It's disgusting that y'all don't shower.

00:09:58.880 What the hell?

00:09:59.760 We shower at home, but these bathrooms are public bathrooms.

00:10:03.320 It's like showering in, like, a bathroom from a gas station.

00:10:06.040 You just wear slides.

00:10:07.560 Huh?

00:10:07.840 You just wear slides.

00:10:09.000 No, but it's still.

00:10:10.920 Yeah.

00:10:11.520 It's still, like, oh, no.

00:10:13.720 And also, you guys, also, man, shower, you guys wash your hands, and you use this thing,

00:10:20.860 like, to dry them, the thing with the air coming up.

00:10:25.600 Like the air blower.

00:10:26.640 The air blower.

00:10:26.860 Yeah.

00:10:27.400 Yeah.

00:10:27.660 That thing's disgusting, too.

00:10:29.520 Actually don't use.

00:10:30.380 That actually collects all the bacteria from the bathroom, like poop bacteria, pee bacteria, 1.00

00:10:36.480 and all disgusting things that are there, and just pulls it out in your hands.

00:10:41.980 We actually use paper towels.

00:10:43.900 Yeah, I was going to say, towel. 1.00

00:10:44.980 Yeah, men use paper towels. 1.00

00:10:45.920 Or bring your own towels that you dry off.

00:10:48.160 It's probably.

00:10:48.780 Who's air drying in there with their balls? 1.00

00:10:50.280 Yeah, it's weird.

00:10:50.840 It's probably y'all women that actually. 1.00

00:10:53.240 No.

00:10:53.800 She's actually.

00:10:54.580 I think she's snitching a little bit.

00:10:58.880 All right.

00:11:00.640 All right.

00:11:01.080 So today's episode, guys, we're going to be covering Jen Pan.

00:11:04.220 Pan or Pam?

00:11:05.860 Pan.

00:11:06.320 Pan, right?

00:11:07.000 Yeah.

00:11:07.260 Yeah, this one is crazy.

00:11:08.120 I remember watching this the first time, and I was like, what the hell, bro?

00:11:11.700 This is going to be a JCS breakdown, actually.

00:11:13.660 Shout out to JCS.

00:11:14.880 They haven't posted in a while.

00:11:15.940 They'd be slacking.

00:11:17.080 But when they do post, it's some heat, man.

00:11:20.060 So we got the video ready, Mo?

00:11:23.060 Yes, we do.

00:11:24.020 Cool.

00:11:24.500 Oh, if you guys want to super chat to the show, it's FNFSuperChat.com.

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00:11:30.740 Get your super chat right on screen.

00:11:32.860 Are there any rants or anything that we need to read?

00:11:35.460 Yes.

00:11:36.560 One second.

00:11:37.920 Okay.

00:11:38.600 We'll hit the chats right now, then.

00:11:40.000 Yeah, it's just a little few.

00:11:41.920 Yeah.

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00:12:07.640 Yo, Rumble took a huge stand yesterday and basically told the British government, F you, we're not going to cancel Russell Brand.

00:12:14.200 Yo, you know things are getting crazy when the government is literally sending letters to social media platforms saying, yo, we want you to cancel people.

00:12:23.200 Like, isn't that crazy?

00:12:24.840 Like, dude, you want that?

00:12:26.460 Oh, we're just inquiring about whether Russell Brand monetizes on your platform.

00:12:32.000 So what if he does?

00:12:33.160 Like, he hasn't violated any terms of service on this platform.

00:12:36.480 Why are you guys trying to demonetize someone?

00:12:39.440 Like, how about you guys come up with some formal charges first and some goddamn proof?

00:12:42.780 What did Russell Brand do?

00:12:44.740 They're alleging that he, I think four women came out and said that he sexually assaulted them from 2006 to 2013.

00:12:51.920 I know, I know, I know.

00:12:55.820 Stop the cat. 1.00

00:12:57.920 I know, I know, dude.

00:12:59.700 I know.

00:13:00.280 Fucking 20, from 2006 to like 2013, a bunch of girls were alleging that he sexually assaulted them. 0.85

00:13:06.300 I wish they would come out with like legit evidence.

00:13:09.240 You know, there is, my favorite comedian got almost canceled.

00:13:13.520 His name is Chris DeLio.

00:13:15.520 He's very hated.

00:13:18.280 And he admitted that he did it because the girls pulled out evidence and shit, you know?

00:13:23.580 And people just started to cancel him and not inviting him to shows.

00:13:29.400 Wait, but he did do it?

00:13:30.680 Yeah, he did.

00:13:31.540 Like, he did abuse some fans that...

00:13:34.480 Did the girls come with proof? 0.50

00:13:35.780 Yeah.

00:13:36.200 Oh, they actually had proof?

00:13:37.180 Okay.

00:13:37.280 Yeah, but I mean, it wasn't that he grape or anything.

00:13:41.260 It's just that he had sexual intercourse with like minors.

00:13:46.580 But no crazy like minors, like 17, 18.

00:13:50.100 What the fuck?

00:13:50.500 Because they were his fans.

00:13:51.680 In America?

00:13:52.680 Yes.

00:13:53.320 Did you know that like 35 states in America, the age of consent is 16?

00:13:57.280 Well...

00:13:58.200 Not that I condone that, but I mean, the law is the law, right?

00:14:02.380 Romeo and Juliet.

00:14:03.400 Yeah, and then there's Romeo and Juliet laws too.

00:14:05.120 Well, I don't know.

00:14:05.800 I think it might have been tooled for Romeo and Juliet laws.

00:14:08.320 But yeah, dude, it's crazy.

00:14:11.380 And I think the age of consent in England, because one of the girls that came against Russell Brand, the age of consent in England is 16.

00:14:19.380 Well, what can I tell you?

00:14:21.440 Well, and then he admitted that he did it and he got canceled from everything.

00:14:24.760 They took him out from movies and like shows that he had to do and shit.

00:14:29.720 And now he's like, oh, you know, done.

00:14:32.040 You know that comedian that you were watching yesterday that I told you that he makes a podcast and he's very famous?

00:14:38.620 But I told you, oh, I know this guy.

00:14:40.200 Oh, I don't know his name, but he was on Crowder yesterday.

00:14:42.420 Yeah.

00:14:42.700 Well, they are best friends.

00:14:44.600 Okay.

00:14:44.960 They are best friends.

00:14:45.780 Okay.

00:14:46.320 They used to make a podcast together.

00:14:47.860 Okay.

00:14:48.320 Well, Chris Zaya has a podcast too.

00:14:50.620 Okay.

00:14:50.920 But yeah, Russell Brand, basically, that's what went down.

00:14:56.520 So, but they literally sent a letter to Rumble, Angie, like the US, not the US, the UK government,

00:15:02.300 the British government or parliament, whatever they want to call it, sent a letter to Rumble

00:15:05.700 saying we are inquiring if he monetizes on your platform and that, you know, basically

00:15:12.100 they're respectfully asking to get him canceled on Rumble and Rumble said no, which is, but

00:15:19.140 YouTube demonetized them immediately off allegations, which is scary.

00:15:24.040 Demonetize someone for accusations.

00:15:28.660 Nothing improved.

00:15:29.800 None of these girls went to the police. 0.99

00:15:31.120 Now, one single police report has been filed.

00:15:33.140 That's crazy.

00:15:34.640 That's what I'm saying.

00:15:35.660 Like they should come out with evidence, not just saying, because that's just nothing.

00:15:40.620 They did a documentary.

00:15:41.660 They made a documentary.

00:15:42.400 And then I think two news companies made pieces on it.

00:15:47.720 Man.

00:15:48.500 15 years later.

00:15:49.540 And, and it's interesting how, you know, when he was with Katy Perry, when he was on top

00:15:54.380 of the world and he was a liberal, no one said anything.

00:15:57.480 But as soon as he starts talking about big pharma, how a certain cough, cough, they made

00:16:02.700 a bunch of money on it, you know, the scamdemic, et cetera.

00:16:08.200 Now they're coming after him.

00:16:09.960 That's just crazy.

00:16:10.300 I always wonder why, why women wait or this kind of people always wait so long to come 1.00

00:16:16.780 out with this stuff.

00:16:17.560 They wait until you become a Republican.

00:16:21.600 And money.

00:16:24.520 You know what I'm saying?

00:16:25.460 That's what they wait.

00:16:26.340 You know, it's, it's like, uh, if you run for president, you want to be a U.S.

00:16:29.520 Supreme court justice, you become a Republican, whatever, then they're going to come out.

00:16:32.380 You look at Donald Trump, you look at Johnny Depp, you look at, uh, Andrew Tate, you look

00:16:36.400 at, um, who else?

00:16:37.740 They did this great Russell brand now, um, Johnny Depp, Johnny.

00:16:41.740 Yeah.

00:16:42.440 Steven Crowder, his wife made some bullshit lies as well on him. 0.91

00:16:45.920 You know, uh, dude, it is crazy to me how, um, like people come out of nowhere with allegations

00:16:55.560 decades after the fact, like Donald Trump too.

00:16:58.500 I remember this woman came out.

00:16:59.460 She said that he, he like, uh, he graped her at a dressing room at a store back in like

00:17:05.860 the nineties.

00:17:06.480 And in my head, I'm like, what the hell?

00:17:07.720 And when you read the lawsuit, it looks like, it sounds like a goddamn fairy tale.

00:17:11.140 It's like, bro.

00:17:11.840 And she wrote a book about it.

00:17:13.020 And, and when, when this was all going down, she did a book tour.

00:17:16.580 She did a book tour.

00:17:18.520 The woman that accused Brett Kavanaugh, he was going to become a U S Supreme court justice. 1.00

00:17:22.480 She had to go fund me.

00:17:23.500 She made a million dollars off it.

00:17:24.920 And she released a book.

00:17:25.840 That's why they do it.

00:17:27.720 Amber Heard got a bunch of movie roles, uh, after she accused Johnny Depp in 2016. 0.90

00:17:34.020 Like, dude, it is crazy.

00:17:35.400 Like I was talking about this yesterday.

00:17:36.720 Like they, they need to, if, if, if the reason why these accusations are coming 10, 20 years

00:17:42.960 after the fact is because there's a huge incentive for women to make them because they can make 1.00

00:17:47.180 money.

00:17:47.480 They can get fame.

00:17:48.140 They can get status.

00:17:49.000 They can get promoted.

00:17:50.800 They could get so many different benefits.

00:17:52.060 But here's the thing.

00:17:53.120 If nothing happens, nothing happens.

00:17:56.140 Yeah.

00:17:56.920 Uh, look at the woman that she, uh, accused Christian Ronaldo. 0.99

00:18:00.040 He got acquitted.

00:18:01.200 Oh yeah.

00:18:01.720 Uh, the woman that accused, he can come to the United States.

00:18:04.340 Can you believe that?

00:18:05.260 He can't come to us?

00:18:05.920 No, because of those allegations, because of that shit.

00:18:09.220 They said it in the pockets that I watch that he cannot come to the United States because

00:18:14.060 of that shit.

00:18:15.300 No way.

00:18:16.740 He never got arrested for it though.

00:18:18.900 I don't know.

00:18:19.720 They said, the guy said it.

00:18:20.780 Wow.

00:18:21.420 Yeah.

00:18:22.500 It's just crazy.

00:18:23.780 And it happened in like Vegas and it happened a long time ago, like 2009 or something.

00:18:28.320 And, and it came out years later.

00:18:31.220 Yeah.

00:18:31.800 That's just crazy.

00:18:32.680 This is, this is for you guys to, you know, raise awareness.

00:18:36.440 You should be careful with you, with who you handle with, like with who you mingle with,

00:18:41.800 because I mean, it's so easy for people to, to make allegations and, you know, fuck you

00:18:48.540 over.

00:18:48.880 So you gotta be smart now.

00:18:50.600 Like you gotta be real smart when you do something with someone, I don't know, like make them

00:18:55.800 sign an NDA or something.

00:18:57.240 I don't know.

00:18:57.780 So just be smart, you know, play safe.

00:19:02.720 Man, this shit is crazy.

00:19:04.420 Angie, I'm gonna start having you give these hoes NDAs for me. 1.00

00:19:07.080 I told you we should do it.

00:19:10.800 She actually told, she's like, hey, make these bitches sign NDAs so they don't come after 1.00

00:19:15.340 us.

00:19:15.920 Yo, this shit is crazy, man.

00:19:17.960 This shit is crazy.

00:19:18.640 I think we should do it.

00:19:20.660 I'm serious with you.

00:19:22.560 You gonna start giving them NDAs for me?

00:19:24.380 Angie?

00:19:24.780 Hey, bitch! 1.00

00:19:25.600 I make a smile.

00:19:27.160 And I just put it next to the bed.

00:19:31.620 That's a W girlfriend. 1.00

00:19:33.100 Yo, yo, mom, go, mom, go. 1.00

00:19:34.860 Yo.

00:19:37.480 Yo, man.

00:19:38.260 You know what?

00:19:38.740 No, but actually, you know what we should do?

00:19:40.820 Just grab like a little tablet, like Dan Bilzerian.

00:19:43.520 He makes you sign an NDA before, like, to enter to his house.

00:19:46.340 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:19:47.420 Yeah, yeah, we went to go, well, we went to go collab with Dan Bilzerian.

00:19:49.900 I don't know if I should say that, but.

00:19:51.680 No, no, no, no, no.

00:19:52.400 Everybody knows.

00:19:52.980 We talked about it on the podcast, too.

00:19:54.160 Okay.

00:19:54.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:19:54.960 When we went to go to Dan Bilzerian's spot, guys, to do the podcast, he made all of us

00:19:58.100 sign NDAs, which is smart.

00:19:59.160 Like, bro, that's how it's gotta be.

00:20:00.140 And they take you a picture and everything.

00:20:01.380 Like, if they take you a picture, you have to sign it, you have to read the shit.

00:20:04.920 If you don't sign that shit, you cannot enter the house and you cannot talk about

00:20:07.860 anything that they say there.

00:20:09.320 So, yeah, you should do that.

00:20:10.700 We should grab that little laptop there that is doing nothing and just, like, make NDAs,

00:20:14.620 like, digital NDAs and take pictures of these bitches. 1.00

00:20:17.040 But Dan is fucking awesome.

00:20:19.300 You know what I mean?

00:20:19.980 But I can see why he does that to protect himself.

00:20:22.020 You know what I mean?

00:20:22.640 Yeah, of course.

00:20:23.080 But, yeah, he's gotta do it with, like, the girls and shit like that.

00:20:25.920 You know what I mean?

00:20:26.240 Of course.

00:20:26.260 Because he's around these crazy women all the time. 0.99

00:20:29.400 This man has a body care of, like, 500,000 people, I think.

00:20:32.080 Some million, some crazy shit.

00:20:33.480 But he's a good guy.

00:20:34.900 We're gonna have him back on the show, guys.

00:20:36.340 I was actually talking to him literally, like, two days ago.

00:20:38.720 So, good guy.

00:20:40.800 We'll have him back on probably here in Miami or we might go back out to Vegas and do something

00:20:47.080 with him.

00:20:47.900 You know, when you guys were doing that interview, there was once when I was gonna get something

00:20:53.960 from the car, a fresh car, the Lambo that we had there.

00:20:56.880 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:20:57.600 And I came out.

00:20:58.940 And when I came back, he was heading out because he was, you guys just finished the interview.

00:21:03.660 When I was coming back to give you the keys of the car, he saw me and he was like,

00:21:08.340 who the fuck are you? 0.82

00:21:15.760 And I was like, oh, no, I'm with Fresh and Fit, guys.

00:21:18.300 Oh, okay, okay.

00:21:19.160 You can go.

00:21:20.040 That's fucking funny.

00:21:21.560 Who the fuck are you?

00:21:23.140 Who the fuck are you?

00:21:26.500 Oh, man.

00:21:27.120 Yeah, because when we were doing the interview, guys, Angie helped us set up whatever, but

00:21:30.740 she was in the back.

00:21:31.480 Yeah, I was in the back with Michael Sartain's girlfriend.

00:21:32.900 Michael Sartain and his girlfriend.

00:21:34.440 So, I don't think Dan ever saw her, really.

00:21:36.460 No.

00:21:37.040 So, actually, no, yeah, because when we came, his assistant was there.

00:21:41.640 It was his assistant.

00:21:42.260 Yeah.

00:21:43.000 And the security guys.

00:21:44.240 Yeah.

00:21:44.780 But he never saw us.

00:21:46.280 Yeah.

00:21:46.540 He never really saw us.

00:21:48.120 But nice guy.

00:21:49.120 Nice guy.

00:21:49.820 It's kind of sad how people in the media try to portray him in a certain way.

00:21:56.640 Regular dude, man.

00:21:57.780 Yeah.

00:21:58.220 Really chill, regular dude.

00:21:59.300 So, yeah.

00:22:01.920 Okay.

00:22:02.400 Let's get into this thing with Jen Pan.

00:22:08.060 Oh, shit.

00:22:09.740 I'm sorry.

00:22:10.200 Yes.

00:22:10.400 Yes.

00:22:10.720 Let's do that real quick.

00:22:13.860 Bitch Thoy Nguyen. 1.00

00:22:16.220 Okay.

00:22:16.720 Bless you.

00:22:17.100 You should bring up this case.

00:22:18.860 Bring up this case up the next time you talk about average girls having leverage in the 1.00

00:22:22.380 dating market.

00:22:22.880 Jennifer Pan was a mid-girl, but still got her boyfriend to set up a murder for her.

00:22:26.220 Yeah, shit is crazy.

00:22:26.900 Hey, man, I hope you're doing well.

00:22:28.440 I want to suggest covering the case of South Seed Jackson on Fed Reacts.

00:22:32.120 It's really gnarly to see that I think would make for a gripping episode.

00:22:37.800 No.

00:22:38.520 I got you.

00:22:39.420 Let's see here.

00:22:40.120 Where are we at here?

00:22:40.800 Oh, just wanted to let you know that I always look forward to your videos.

00:22:43.980 Thank you so much, man.

00:22:44.940 A lot of y'all support Fed Reacts, man.

00:22:46.680 We really appreciate it.

00:22:47.960 I know your stance on Heights, my iron, but you got to use that balcony for a morning cup

00:22:51.200 of tea or a healthy breakfast at least once.

00:22:52.840 That's one hell of a view in the morning sun.

00:22:54.320 Look glorious on last week's music marathon.

00:22:56.900 Yeah, no, I'd be on there sometimes.

00:22:59.160 I just sit really close to the door.

00:23:02.280 Why?

00:23:02.860 I sit really close.

00:23:03.840 Man, fuck that, man.

00:23:05.900 We're high up.

00:23:07.800 Myr is scared of Heights.

00:23:08.880 I'm scared of Heights, man.

00:23:10.100 Yeah.

00:23:10.540 I'd be on the balcony, but I'd be staying far back.

00:23:12.660 Are you actually scared of Heights?

00:23:14.240 Yeah.

00:23:14.440 Yes, you know this woman.

00:23:15.320 Why are you trying to make fun?

00:23:15.840 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:23:16.960 So, are you telling me?

00:23:19.360 She's acting like she'll know.

00:23:20.440 She knows.

00:23:20.940 That's why you didn't want it to come out in the balcony in the SES?

00:23:26.040 Yeah, hell no.

00:23:26.900 At the new spot?

00:23:27.900 I need time.

00:23:29.840 So, you're telling me that if we go to Fear Factor, you're just not going to do it?

00:23:34.580 Fear Factor's kind of crazy.

00:23:36.200 Was it 2003?

00:23:37.400 No, I mean.

00:23:38.980 There's a new one.

00:23:39.840 Joe Rogan with Harry Potter.

00:23:40.640 There's a new one?

00:23:41.360 Yeah, with Ludacris.

00:23:42.920 Ludacris?

00:23:43.700 Yeah.

00:23:44.100 You guys don't watch MTV?

00:23:45.380 No.

00:23:46.780 Not these days.

00:23:47.540 All right.

00:23:47.980 You guys are old. 0.81

00:23:49.020 Hold on.

00:23:49.760 I forgot for a minute.

00:23:51.080 But you would go to Fear Factor?

00:23:53.660 No, hell no.

00:23:54.620 Especially now.

00:23:56.220 Not eating no cow penis for $10,000. 0.98

00:23:58.980 Ew.

00:23:59.740 Hell no.

00:24:00.360 Ow. 0.99

00:24:00.760 I used to make them do that crazy stuff. 0.75

00:24:02.660 Yeah.

00:24:03.620 It's fun.

00:24:04.040 Bro, Joe Rogan, man.

00:24:05.420 Come on, man.

00:24:06.140 He's out here interviewing people now, but I remember what he used to do back in the

00:24:09.200 day.

00:24:10.420 Making people eat cow dung and shit.

00:24:12.700 But come on, man.

00:24:13.860 Yeah.

00:24:14.420 Yeah, man.

00:24:15.200 Fear Factor back in the early 2000s was different.

00:24:20.260 Oh, shit.

00:24:21.100 You guys know him as a bald dude, you know, asking really interesting interview questions

00:24:25.120 on a podcast.

00:24:25.960 I remember him as a dude fucking having people fighting underwater and doing a bunch of crazy

00:24:31.220 stuff for Fear Factor back in the day.

00:24:32.660 I still watch it.

00:24:33.900 Damn.

00:24:34.220 I still watch it in the 2000s.

00:24:35.600 I just watch one of the guys going in an helicopter and taking flags out the helicopter.

00:24:40.600 Taking flags?

00:24:41.620 Yeah, the flags.

00:24:42.340 From the helicopter floor.

00:24:46.100 What the fuck?

00:24:46.900 Crazy.

00:24:47.800 Yeah.

00:24:47.900 And it's 50,000 now that we work.

00:24:51.360 All that for 50?

00:24:52.940 Nah, man.

00:24:53.460 I'm good.

00:24:54.780 Nah, man.

00:24:55.460 I'm good.

00:24:56.320 Bye, man.

00:24:56.900 Nah, I'm good, man.

00:24:58.440 I'm good.

00:24:58.900 Nah.

00:24:59.980 I haven't even stepped foot really on the new building's balcony either.

00:25:04.040 I kind of like walked out on it.

00:25:06.040 I was like, uh, and then I just like, yeah, I just went right back in.

00:25:10.500 I was like, nah, I'm good.

00:25:11.200 I need time, man.

00:25:12.620 I need time.

00:25:13.280 I bought the condo.

00:25:14.920 I barely even, I barely even walked around the, it wraps around the balcony.

00:25:18.580 I didn't even really go on it.

00:25:19.760 I was like, fuck this.

00:25:21.080 I was like, Angie, go inside now.

00:25:23.020 Yeah.

00:25:23.580 Makes me nervous when she's on the balcony, man.

00:25:26.120 So, I don't know.

00:25:27.240 Whatever.

00:25:28.380 Yo, she dies.

00:25:29.000 They're coming after me.

00:25:30.760 Hope y'all know that.

00:25:32.060 I'm going to jail immediately.

00:25:33.620 Could you imagine the headlines?

00:25:35.660 Misogynistic podcaster throws girl off a balcony.

00:25:38.400 Nobody's going to care, man.

00:25:39.560 Misogyn.

00:25:40.020 Nobody's going to care?

00:25:40.720 You think nobody's going to care?

00:25:41.700 Nobody's going to care?

00:25:42.440 You think nobody's going to care?

00:25:43.220 Angie, we're finito.

00:25:44.780 All of us.

00:25:45.320 They're arrested fresh finally too.

00:25:46.820 Oh, we get the, we finally got that stuttering, that stuttering nigga gone. 1.00

00:25:51.820 Finally.

00:25:52.740 I mean, my dad will like come after you, but that's, that'll be it.

00:25:56.140 Yeah, but bro.

00:25:57.180 Yeah, but I do it.

00:25:58.140 You think, you think just, I do it.

00:25:59.700 You really think just your dad going to come after him?

00:26:01.780 Yeah.

00:26:01.900 Bro, everybody.

00:26:02.920 Yeah, my dad and my brother.

00:26:04.060 She falls off the balcony and then they're going to like, then they're going to blame

00:26:06.940 me and shit. 0.87

00:26:07.580 Like, nah, man.

00:26:08.120 Stay your ass aside.

00:26:08.820 You can't go on the balcony.

00:26:11.180 Oh, God.

00:26:12.380 They're arresting all of us.

00:26:13.220 They're going to arrest Chris's peanut butter ass.

00:26:16.660 Could you imagine?

00:26:18.200 What's going on?

00:26:19.740 Chris was drunk as hell yesterday too.

00:26:21.180 Now they go, it was on one.

00:26:22.560 I mean, it's just another day in the office.

00:26:23.680 Yeah, that's true.

00:26:24.600 For Chris, it was.

00:26:28.040 I love Chris.

00:26:29.140 Yo, Chris was, holy.

00:26:31.040 I mean.

00:26:31.220 That dude was making a bunch of comments.

00:26:32.740 And then we went to go get food after.

00:26:34.100 And Sniko pulled up. 0.92

00:26:36.440 Sniko didn't understand.

00:26:37.200 Nothing that Sniko was saying.

00:26:38.400 I didn't understand anything he was saying when I was here.

00:26:40.660 I was like, what the fuck is wrong with this?

00:26:43.000 Listen, you got to understand, though.

00:26:45.460 We do it live.

00:26:50.400 Oh, Lord.

00:26:51.800 What?

00:26:53.000 What did you say?

00:26:54.860 What?

00:26:55.340 Yeah, facts.

00:26:56.080 I used to be a teacher.

00:26:58.500 What does it have to do with anything?

00:27:01.460 We do it live, man.

00:27:03.400 One time I was like, yo, Chris, what favorite cake do you like?

00:27:06.880 Do you like vanilla cake or chocolate cake?

00:27:08.420 Listen, I used to be a teacher.

00:27:09.520 What?

00:27:09.960 I'm talking about cake.

00:27:11.000 Hold on.

00:27:12.460 Wait a minute.

00:27:14.540 Hey, yo, which girl do you like? 0.83

00:27:16.560 The long hair one or the short hair girl? 1.00

00:27:17.860 I used to be a teacher.

00:27:18.700 What?

00:27:19.420 That's what I understand.

00:27:20.180 What does it have to do with anything?

00:27:22.520 Listen, Mo.

00:27:23.280 We do it live.

00:27:23.800 Nigga, what? 1.00

00:27:26.160 What else do we got here?

00:27:27.480 We have this here.

00:27:32.180 We got 1,200 of you guys watching on Rumble and another, like, 800 of y'all on YouTube, man.

00:27:36.200 So, shout out to you guys.

00:27:38.240 Myron, how does it feel when there are so many people that look at you as a brother or even father they wish they had?

00:27:43.800 Is there any pressure sometimes, if any, even a tiny bit or even for a second?

00:27:48.100 And that's from Vilexia.

00:27:49.700 There is, bro.

00:27:50.400 But it's good, though, because, like, there's times where I don't feel like going to the gym or I don't feel like getting up.

00:27:55.580 Hell, even right now before we did the show, man, I was really tired.

00:27:58.200 I was like, fuck, man.

00:27:58.940 I don't want to do anything.

00:28:00.280 But you guys literally motivate me to get shit done a lot of the times, man, because it's way bigger than me.

00:28:06.200 So, you guys are a big foundation for where a lot of my discipline and motivation lies.

00:28:12.120 I mean, I pretty much gave up alcohol all the way, 100%, for, you know, for fitness and obviously for the podcast.

00:28:19.900 Once I started taking this shit super, super serious, in August of 2021, when we're getting all the hate, I pretty much cut booze all the way.

00:28:27.840 Man.

00:28:28.040 So, August of 2021, yeah.

00:28:30.760 So, shout out to y'all, man.

00:28:32.440 Don DeMarco, to y'all, man.

00:28:34.620 Don DeMarco.

00:28:35.540 That was one of the wildest times to be as fresh if it's supported to.

00:28:39.840 Yeah, bro.

00:28:40.440 Everybody and their mom was coming at us, dude.

00:28:42.120 It was really fucking bad and annoying.

00:28:44.840 But it's okay.

00:28:46.240 We got, like I said before, our haters.

00:28:48.860 I got something for you motherfuckers, man. 0.76

00:28:50.800 Trust me.

00:28:51.380 I've been in the lab.

00:28:52.800 I've been in the hyperbolic time chamber training.

00:28:54.660 So, revenge will come very soon.

00:28:58.160 What else do we got here?

00:28:59.780 World's Coolest Nerd.

00:29:01.020 Shout out to Moe, a.k.a. Mark Hady, a.k.a. The World's Strongest Ham.

00:29:03.960 I almost said Vissera, but I can't do you like that.

00:29:07.000 Martin, I know you don't want to give away too much.

00:29:09.400 Does the new studio have neighbors?

00:29:12.300 No, actually.

00:29:13.720 Not really.

00:29:15.520 It's the new building kind of has it where, like, you got your own floor pretty much.

00:29:20.960 You might share it with, I think, like, one or two other people.

00:29:24.200 But, like, they're not on your side, if that makes sense.

00:29:26.480 And we got the whole place paneled up, so they're not going to hear anything.

00:29:29.800 And, guys, just so you know, we didn't.

00:29:33.460 I don't get complaints from neighbors.

00:29:35.560 The studio is extremely quiet.

00:29:37.640 Like, this place is literally covered in sound panels.

00:29:40.480 Even when we play music in here, you can't hear it from outside because of all the panels that we have.

00:29:44.580 A big reason why is because we're kicking out girls. 1.00

00:29:48.060 And then the other one is haters would literally call the building and say, oh, that Fresh to Fit podcast films out of here.

00:29:55.500 And they would complain.

00:29:57.460 Yeah.

00:29:58.140 Yeah.

00:29:58.840 Weirdos from other states would call in, guys, and make complaints on a building that they don't even live in.

00:30:03.580 That's crazy.

00:30:07.620 Yeah.

00:30:08.340 Yep.

00:30:09.300 Yep.

00:30:10.200 What else do we got?

00:30:11.460 All right.

00:30:11.900 We have...

00:30:13.440 Again, Myron, I'm down 15 pounds.

00:30:16.440 I'm wondering if I have to continue to adjust my calorie intake as I lose weight.

00:30:19.760 Also, Big Mo, thoughts of new releases.

00:30:21.340 Is there new management?

00:30:24.640 What's on the new releases?

00:30:25.780 Yeah.

00:30:26.060 Is there new management?

00:30:27.060 Cut your calories down by 100 and just keep going.

00:30:30.620 And then every time you hit a sticky point, take another 100 down.

00:30:33.960 What else do we got, Mo?

00:30:35.200 Do I have to cut my calories?

00:30:36.420 I'm getting fat.

00:30:37.500 Yes.

00:30:39.220 These chicks got dirtier skonkas than these gym showers. 1.00

00:30:42.060 Goddamn.

00:30:42.660 Damn.

00:30:43.180 Okay.

00:30:43.480 What?

00:30:43.980 What are skonkas? 0.99

00:30:44.900 Misogony.

00:30:45.540 Colorado roughneck.

00:30:47.060 I've never heard that term for a vagina, but okay. 1.00

00:30:49.220 Phones are dirtier than most everything.

00:30:51.140 Just think about Mo scratching his ass and touching his phone. 0.94

00:30:54.340 What?

00:30:56.380 Okay.

00:30:56.780 Okay.

00:30:58.180 Dom go shout out to Myron Holden Frame last night.

00:31:00.340 Angie, Bills, Chris, Mo, and Mo, we love y'all.

00:31:03.500 Thank you, bro.

00:31:04.340 Hey, you're going to put it fresh in there, man.

00:31:06.300 Top five comedians are Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle, Corey Holcomb, Chris Rock, Bill Burr.

00:31:12.420 I agree with some.

00:31:13.400 Yeah.

00:31:14.200 Okay.

00:31:16.340 Department of Homeland and Securities.

00:31:18.280 Hose and Securities.

00:31:19.000 Hose and insecurities.

00:31:20.840 It's funny, Myron.

00:31:21.660 We shit on France.

00:31:22.500 Historically, they've won.

00:31:23.360 If war can be won, the most battles militarily in history above England and U.S., however,

00:31:30.500 were third place and only 244 years old, recently weak.

00:31:34.060 Just want to say thanks for all the content, man.

00:31:36.180 The grind is crazy, but the world needs a WMO, WNG. 1.00

00:31:38.640 And that's from Be Creative, I think.

00:31:41.920 Be creative.

00:31:42.800 Be creative.

00:31:43.420 I get it.

00:31:43.860 Okay.

00:31:44.240 Thank you, bro.

00:31:46.300 JR from Dallas, WFedrax.

00:31:47.700 Thanks, JR.

00:31:48.080 60-Minute Man, my friends roast me for being 22 and wanting an 18-year-old, normalized once

00:31:53.280 and younger.

00:31:54.040 Yeah, bro.

00:31:54.500 They're going to do everything they can to shame you, but fuck them.

00:31:57.060 Anything else?

00:31:58.000 That is all for now.

00:31:59.080 All right, cool.

00:31:59.580 We're caught up.

00:32:00.440 So let's go ahead and get into this JCS Reacts, and we'll break it down with you guys.

00:32:05.800 And Mo, this one's crazy if you haven't seen it already.

00:32:08.020 I haven't.

00:32:08.580 You haven't?

00:32:09.020 All right.

00:32:09.580 Yeah, it's great.

00:32:10.500 Yeah.

00:32:14.780 Shout out to JCS.

00:32:15.900 We miss him.

00:32:16.540 Yeah, JCS, man.

00:32:17.740 You're slacking, bro.

00:32:22.060 What makes the case of Jennifer Pan unique among others in the true crime genre is the

00:32:27.080 overabundance of raw footage freely available in the public domain.

00:32:30.860 There is over 11 hours of material that not only recounts her entire life in meticulous

00:32:35.020 detail, but gives us considerable insight into her psychopathological state.

00:32:38.900 Jennifer herself will narrate her own story in this video, which is the reason the following

00:32:42.740 lead-up segment will be condensed.

00:32:44.060 As a brief outline is all that is needed before delving into the extraordinary mind of this

00:32:47.960 individual.

00:32:48.780 Jennifer was born in Markham, Ontario, where she was raised with her older brother in a

00:32:52.280 middle-class household.

00:32:53.380 Her parents, Beek and Han, were originally from Vietnam, and their method of parenting

00:32:57.280 was strict.

00:32:58.140 Very strict.

00:32:58.880 What some might even class as authoritarian.

00:33:00.820 Success and achievement from their children were seen as outright obligations, whether it

00:33:04.360 be in academics or extracurricular activity.

00:33:06.700 And some might argue these expectations took precedence over the well-being of the children

00:33:10.160 themselves.

00:33:11.000 Jennifer initially took the imposed pressure in her stride and put everything she had

00:33:14.480 in the middle of the country.

00:33:15.100 And guys, this is just indicative of immigrant parents in general.

00:33:18.820 You know, I remember growing up, failure was not an option.

00:33:21.580 My dad and my mom would always yell at me and say, we didn't come to this country for

00:33:24.700 you to be a failure.

00:33:25.500 If I was born here, I'd be a doctor, I'd be a lawyer, I'd be a somebody.

00:33:28.520 I used to get that speech literally every day when I was a kid.

00:33:32.140 If I came home with anything less than an A, that's what my parents would say.

00:33:36.040 I remember I was like, you know, a BC student.

00:33:37.440 My parents were like, oh, well, this is terrible.

00:33:38.980 And they always make me feel bad about it.

00:33:41.080 So this is just indicative of dealing with immigrant parents.

00:33:44.840 And, you know, whether Vietnamese, Nigerian, Indian, it doesn't matter.

00:33:49.680 You're going to get shit on if you don't bring good grades and you don't go hard in the

00:33:52.580 pain because immigrant parents feel as though they went through hell and thick water to

00:33:56.860 get you into the country that you're typically in, whether it's the United States, Canada,

00:34:01.160 UK, et cetera, one of these first world countries that has way more opportunities than their

00:34:04.680 homeland.

00:34:05.460 And they will not accept failure.

00:34:08.000 And rightfully so, man.

00:34:09.240 I thank God that my parents were good parents and they forced me to not be a bum. 1.00

00:34:15.300 Like, it's not, to be honest with you, I think it's not just immigrants' parents.

00:34:20.720 It's just general good parents.

00:34:23.740 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:24.540 But immigrant parents, like, are more likely to be, you know, like that and, you know,

00:34:29.700 dictatorish and very authoritarian when it comes to how they raise their kids, et cetera.

00:34:34.340 So that's the thing about immigrant parents. 0.89

00:34:37.000 And if you look, right, I think, if I'm not mistaken, in the United States, like, Nigerian 1.00

00:34:41.620 families have the highest average household income.

00:34:45.200 And then I think Asians are right there behind them. 1.00

00:34:47.580 So, you know, that's why I kind of always laugh at people in, you know, the black community 1.00

00:34:51.940 that cry and say, oh, bro, we're being held down, man.

00:34:54.720 It's the white man holding us down.

00:34:56.000 Why are the Nigerians successful then? 0.99

00:34:57.660 They're black just like you. 0.99

00:34:58.620 You know, like, please explain to me how, you know, Adeoye is out here making more money

00:35:05.180 than you.

00:35:05.940 You know what I'm saying?

00:35:06.840 Like, what's going on here?

00:35:08.680 Like, come on, man.

00:35:10.820 All right.

00:35:11.240 What else do we got here, Mo?

00:35:12.540 Let's go back to the clip.

00:35:14.860 Shout out to all my immigrants out there, man.

00:35:16.560 Shout out to all y'all.

00:35:17.240 First world.

00:35:18.240 Sorry.

00:35:18.620 First generation.

00:35:20.000 You good.

00:35:20.300 You good.

00:35:20.460 She had exceptional talent and at one point was expected to compete in the Winter Olympics,

00:35:25.140 but she suffered a serious knee injury at the age of 14 and was told she could no longer

00:35:29.000 compete.

00:35:29.620 Her dreams were cut short, but of more concern was that her parents' expectations now had

00:35:33.460 to be met through the more traditional route of education.

00:35:35.760 And the issue was that Jennifer wasn't anywhere near as academically gifted as she was athletic. 0.99

00:35:40.180 She was averaging a C minus when her parents wanted straight A's.

00:35:43.140 So rather than communicate with them, she decided to meet their expectations under false

00:35:46.860 pretenses and began faking her test results.

00:35:49.000 This led to her faking her end-of-year report.

00:35:52.020 Yo, uh, well, innovate, I guess.

00:35:57.280 Port cards, which eventually led to her faking a high school diploma and then a university

00:36:01.100 acceptance letter to study pharmacology.

00:36:03.140 In the abstract world of her parents, Jennifer was on her way to a noble and well-paid career

00:36:07.060 in medical health care, when in reality, she was a high school dropout living with her

00:36:10.740 drug dealer boyfriend, whom she had been dating in secret for almost eight years.

00:36:14.040 She was eventually found out in 2010 when her parents... 0.98

00:36:16.860 What?

00:36:19.000 Yeah, I told y'all this shit is crazy.

00:36:22.680 This shit perfect everything.

00:36:24.260 Her high school diploma, her Toronto University acceptance, uh...

00:36:28.080 Damn.

00:36:28.480 She was dating a drug dealer for eight years.

00:36:31.260 Bruh.

00:36:31.980 Holy.

00:36:33.120 All right.

00:36:33.860 Where's RCMP when you need them?

00:36:35.180 All right, let's keep going.

00:36:35.880 Where is RCMP when you need them?

00:36:37.520 RCMP, by the way, guys, Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

00:36:39.660 That is Canada's... 0.94

00:36:40.900 Think of them as their...

00:36:41.820 They're Canada's FBI.

00:36:42.780 I actually worked with them very closely.

00:36:44.980 Man, they can't do shit.

00:36:46.060 Their hands are tied.

00:36:47.020 Canada is cucked, man.

00:36:49.160 No offense to all my Canadians out there, but holy!

00:36:52.540 Yo, you guys, bro.

00:36:54.320 Y'all country sucks.

00:36:55.700 Like, bro.

00:36:58.200 Yo, man.

00:36:58.980 And here's the thing.

00:36:59.500 I love Canadians.

00:37:00.200 You guys are the friendliest people.

00:37:01.420 Some of the best people.

00:37:02.260 Um, but the Canadian economy, the Canadian government, uh, the Canadian dollars, power, Jason Trudeau, man, bro, they can't do shit.

00:37:14.500 Bro, uh, when I did this case with the RCMP, right, I had this, um, human smuggling case with them.

00:37:20.780 Uh, basically, long story short, it was a Sri Lankan human smuggling organization that was smuggling aliens, uh, and through the United States, destined for Toronto.

00:37:28.740 Toronto actually has the biggest population of Sri Lankans in the world outside of Sri Lanka.

00:37:34.180 And, um, they were coming in through the United States, so obviously we had a nexus and so did Canada.

00:37:39.160 And I remember one of the primary targets in the case where there's, where there's a press release, by the way, for this, guys.

00:37:45.320 Um, and I, I've, I've showed you guys it before.

00:37:47.680 It was the last case I did before I left.

00:37:49.420 One of the biggest arrests I made right before I left.

00:37:51.820 Um, uh, Canada, RCMP, we're like, yeah, we can't really prosecute.

00:37:57.540 Uh, U.S., can you guys do it?

00:37:59.680 And I was like, what the fuck?

00:38:00.640 So we gotta do all the work?

00:38:01.900 So, um, we had to go and push for the prosecution and everything else like that.

00:38:05.700 But, yeah, if we had prosecuted them under Canadian law, not only would it have been very difficult, but the guy would have done, like, no time.

00:38:12.420 So you guys, they couldn't prosecute because of their law?

00:38:15.540 Their laws are super weak.

00:38:18.000 Wow.

00:38:18.240 They're not, they're not punitive like the United States.

00:38:21.080 Oh, okay.

00:38:21.740 They're not as punitive.

00:38:22.520 So they have to ask you guys.

00:38:24.000 Especially for laws that, like, have to do with, like, immigration, like, illegally bringing people in and stuff like that.

00:38:29.340 Their laws are super lax.

00:38:31.320 Canada has some of the, um, laxest immigration laws of any of the first world countries.

00:38:36.280 That's why so many refugees, asylees, et cetera, go to Canada over the United States.

00:38:41.080 Well, they want people, though.

00:38:42.660 Yeah, yeah.

00:38:43.400 That country's empty.

00:38:44.400 Yeah, but, yeah, Canada, man, is, holy shit, man.

00:38:47.280 I love Canadians, but guys, your guys, well, I mean, it's obvious, bro, you know how many Canadians illegally live here in Miami? 0.98

00:38:55.020 Dude, it is crazy how many of them come here for work, and they don't, they don't want to leave, or they do a business here illegally, or they overstay their, overstay their visa waiver. 0.93

00:39:05.620 Like, you know, it's crazy.

00:39:07.020 Like, there's not that many opportunities in Canada.

00:39:09.020 Yeah.

00:39:09.220 Or, worse yet, they come here just to work, because the money here is worth more.

00:39:14.500 So, they'll take a PECA, come here, and then send that money back.

00:39:16.980 So, it's like, bro.

00:39:18.800 Yeah.

00:39:19.360 Or they make money and stay later.

00:39:21.560 Yeah.

00:39:21.740 I have a friend who did that.

00:39:23.160 So, um, so, yeah, man, I love Canadians, but guys, your guys' country is fucked.

00:39:28.260 I would say it's almost as bad as the UK.

00:39:30.980 UK, they put you in jail for, um, for speech.

00:39:36.480 Wow.

00:39:36.840 So, they don't have First Amendment.

00:39:39.480 Nah, they don't.

00:39:40.960 They don't.

00:39:41.300 Canada doesn't either.

00:39:42.120 That's why Jordan Peterson went viral.

00:39:44.140 Because he don't, he, he don't want to use, uh, pronouns.

00:39:47.680 Oh, okay.

00:39:48.480 That's originally what got how popular was, not using pronouns, and, uh, and it was not, at the time, like, Canada has some very, they have some very, uh, unclear laws when it comes to, uh, freedom of speech.

00:40:02.820 But they don't have it, really.

00:40:04.920 What were you gonna say, Moe?

00:40:05.540 I was gonna say woke, but, yeah.

00:40:07.640 Yeah, Canada's more woke than we are, for sure.

00:40:11.060 Yeah, like, their laws are, like, extremely, like, woke.

00:40:14.460 Yeah, Canada's more woke than we are.

00:40:16.220 But here's the thing, there's a lot of conservative Canadians, too.

00:40:18.740 It's just that they don't have a voice like that.

00:40:20.660 But there's a lot of them.

00:40:24.000 That's crazy.

00:40:24.820 Yeah, bro.

00:40:25.200 What are the parties in Canada?

00:40:27.220 Oh, damn.

00:40:27.860 Someone in the chat, man, tell me what your guy, I don't know if they have, like, I don't think they have a Republican and a Democrat party like we do.

00:40:33.300 That's what I'm asking.

00:40:34.320 What do they have, then?

00:40:35.160 Yeah, they have something different.

00:40:36.700 I know they call their prosecutors crowns.

00:40:39.540 Crowns?

00:40:39.980 Yeah.

00:40:40.220 Okay.

00:40:40.900 That's what they call their prosecutors. 0.80

00:40:42.940 All right.

00:40:43.820 All right.

00:40:44.620 Yeah.

00:40:45.720 But, yeah, we'll see it in the chat.

00:40:47.380 Someone's gonna put it in the chat.

00:40:48.200 But shout out to all my Canadians, bro.

00:40:49.260 We are gonna go to Canada.

00:40:50.780 Even though I made all those comments.

00:40:53.280 If I get arrested, you guys don't whine.

00:40:54.960 But we are gonna go to Canada and do a meetup out there because, yo, we got a huge support network out there in Canada.

00:41:00.380 But, god damn, I feel sorry for y'all, bro, in Canada.

00:41:03.500 And my British people, too.

00:41:04.460 I love y'all, too.

00:41:05.700 I feel sorry for you guys, too, because your guys' government sucks as well.

00:41:08.620 I mean, all the first world countries' governments are being terrible and are, you know, kind of going to the shitter. 0.98

00:41:13.260 But, god damn, like, UK, like, the government's sending letters saying, hey, cancel this person off a rumble?

00:41:19.340 That's wild.

00:41:20.700 So, they're saying that it's liberal, socialist, conservative.

00:41:25.040 NPD, which would be, like, seen as socialist.

00:41:27.800 Okay.

00:41:28.300 Conservative, communist, green, block, cubit.

00:41:31.880 Cubiqua. 0.97

00:41:32.780 Cubiqua. 0.97

00:41:33.660 Oh, like the dumb hoe for yesterday. 1.00

00:41:35.020 Yeah.

00:41:35.920 Okay.

00:41:37.160 Okay.

00:41:37.840 All right.

00:41:38.140 Let's go back to the doc.

00:41:40.240 Let's go back to the doc.

00:42:10.240 Home Invasion, where three of his acquaintances would enter the Pan household and stage a robbery gone wrong. 0.91

00:42:14.880 The two instructions were to first ransack the home and then murder the parent.

00:42:18.420 All right.

00:42:18.700 So, the three names.

00:42:19.420 Can you take the CC off real quick?

00:42:22.100 The three names, guys.

00:42:23.040 So, Daniel Wong, stereotype last name.

00:42:25.480 Eric Carty.

00:42:26.140 He went ahead and recruited these three guys.

00:42:29.560 David Malvegnam.

00:42:31.200 Oh, that dude is Sri Lankan.

00:42:34.080 Let me look it up.

00:42:34.920 Yeah, that last name is definitely Sri Lankan.

00:42:37.060 No.

00:42:38.580 Yeah.

00:42:38.900 And then, Eric Carty and then Lenford Crawford.

00:42:43.180 So, two black dudes and a Sri Lankan.

00:42:47.500 A-K-N-Indian, nigga. 1.00

00:42:49.600 Yeah.

00:42:50.080 So, yeah.

00:42:52.000 Yeah, Sri Lankan.

00:42:52.800 Yeah, Malvegnam.

00:42:53.780 Yeah.

00:42:54.200 Bro, I've read so many Sri Lankan names, bro.

00:42:56.260 I can, like, I'm scarred from their last names.

00:43:01.180 They're so hard to pronounce.

00:43:02.400 I'm just like, oh, my God.

00:43:04.300 Because I had to interview, like, 50 witnesses.

00:43:06.700 And they all had them crazy-ass last names.

00:43:08.540 And I was like, at some point, I was like, man.

00:43:10.440 I was just, like, I just used, like, the first letter of their last name.

00:43:13.980 All right.

00:43:14.240 We're going to go talk to T.

00:43:18.020 Last name was, like, Davignam or some shit like that.

00:43:20.080 All right.

00:43:20.280 Now we're going to talk to N. 0.95

00:43:21.880 Navignam.

00:43:22.300 Okay.

00:43:22.660 Now we're going to go talk to A.

00:43:25.000 Avignam.

00:43:25.380 Okay.

00:43:25.680 And then, you know, it's just like, bro.

00:43:27.560 Fuck it.

00:43:29.240 Oh, my God.

00:43:30.040 Shout out to all my Canadians out there.

00:43:31.120 You guys know, Canada, a lot of Sri Lankans, especially Toronto.

00:43:35.380 Huge Sri Lankan population, man.

00:43:37.920 Let's keep going, Mo.

00:43:41.700 The planned date was Monday the 8th of November, with the scheduled time being roughly 11 p.m.

00:43:46.260 Jennifer would unlock the front door, and three figures were caught on a neighbor's surveillance camera entering the home at 11.05.

00:43:51.800 They were then seen running out just under 18 minutes later.

00:43:54.380 It was at that exact time 911 received a call from the same household.

00:43:58.260 Where are you, ma'am?

00:43:59.100 What?

00:44:01.100 Avenue.

00:44:02.100 Avenue Road.

00:44:03.100 Yes.

00:44:04.100 Can you spell the name for me, please?

00:44:06.100 Dad?

00:44:07.100 Just lie, lie, lie, lie, lie.

00:44:08.100 I totally can't.

00:44:09.100 Ma'am, ma'am.

00:44:10.100 Hello?

00:44:11.100 Yes.

00:44:12.100 Ma'am, I need to know your address. 1.00

00:44:13.100 Avenue Road.

00:44:14.100 Can you spell?

00:44:15.100 I'm in Helen Avenue.

00:44:16.100 My dad just went around.

00:44:17.100 I'm in Helen Avenue.

00:44:18.100 I'm in Helen Avenue.

00:44:19.100 My dad just went around.

00:44:20.100 I'm in Helen Avenue.

00:44:21.100 I'm in Helen Avenue.

00:44:22.100 I'm in Helen Avenue.

00:44:23.100 I'm in Helen Avenue.

00:44:24.100 My dad just went outside screaming.

00:44:25.100 Ma'am, can you spell the street address for me, please?

00:44:26.100 H-E-L-E-N. 1.00

00:44:27.100 I'm in Helen Avenue.

00:44:28.100 I'm in Helen Avenue.

00:44:29.100 I'm in Helen Avenue.

00:44:30.100 Ma'am, can you spell the street address for me, please?

00:44:32.100 H-E-L-E-N. 1.00

00:44:34.100 I'm broken.

00:44:35.100 I heard shots like pops.

00:44:36.100 I don't know what's happening.

00:44:37.100 I'm tied upstairs.

00:44:38.100 Beak Pan was shot twice.

00:44:40.100 Once in the neck and once in the head.

00:44:42.100 She was killed immediately.

00:44:43.100 The father, Han, was also shot twice.

00:44:45.100 Once in the shoulder and once in the face.

00:44:47.100 He astonishingly survived and was put into an induced coma once he arrived at the hospital.

00:44:51.100 Jennifer was taken to the same hospital as a precaution, but was soon cleared of injury.

00:44:54.100 She sat by her father's bedside for roughly three hours before she was taken to the Markham police station to give a statement as a witness.

00:45:01.100 I want to go through a form with you.

00:45:03.100 It may seem kind of, you know, why you're doing this, but it's like you're swearing to tell the truth about what you're going to talk to me about.

00:45:12.100 And it's also going to explain to you the penalties for not telling the truth.

00:45:17.100 I don't expect you to help me, but for a homicide investigation, anyone who's very close to the investigation, we do this with.

00:45:25.100 Okay?

00:45:26.100 So this isn't suspecting that you're not going to tell the truth.

00:45:29.100 This is more of a feature that you understand the importance of telling the complete truth.

00:45:33.100 Jennifer is not a suspect at this moment.

00:45:35.100 She is only giving a voluntary statement under oath.

00:45:37.100 She has not read her right to silence, but instead informed of her rights as a witness.

00:45:41.100 She is basically told that fabricating evidence with the intent to mislead is an offense.

00:45:45.100 After reading the notification off paper, the detective gives Jennifer a more human explanation of the instruction.

00:45:50.100 What I've just explained to you is you're here voluntarily to help us, that you don't have to talk to us if you don't want to,

00:45:58.100 but the importance of talking to us, and if you're talking to us, the importance of telling the truth.

00:46:01.100 And if you don't tell the truth, there's criminal consequences for not telling the truth.

00:46:04.100 That's all that stuff had to deal with.

00:46:07.100 Okay?

00:46:08.100 The investigator then leaves to get the commissioner of oaths, which is for the purpose of swearing in the witness.

00:46:12.100 But he first brings in a box of Kleenex.

00:46:15.100 This is universally recognized as getting startled.

00:46:18.100 Yet the official term in neurophysiology is the startle reflex via auditory stimulus.

00:46:23.100 Hyperarousal from a traumatic event can often exaggerate this response in a manner similar to how Jennifer reacted to the sound of the door. 0.96

00:46:31.100 Hello, my name is Angela Spiro.

00:46:33.100 I'm a commissioner of oaths with York Regional Police.

00:46:35.100 I'm here so you can give a truthful statement either by solemn affirmation or swearing on the Bible.

00:46:39.100 Which do you prefer?

00:46:40.100 Swearing on the Bible?

00:46:41.100 Just put your hand on the Bible.

00:46:43.100 What the...

00:46:44.100 Pause.

00:46:45.100 Oh my God.

00:46:46.100 Do you...

00:46:47.100 She's not... 0.99

00:46:48.100 This chick ain't... 1.00

00:46:49.100 I don't even think she...

00:46:50.100 Is she Christian?

00:46:51.100 She ain't Christian. 1.00

00:46:52.100 Probably Buddhist or something.

00:46:53.100 I don't think it matters.

00:46:54.100 It matters.

00:46:55.100 Yeah, but if you don't have...

00:46:56.100 If you're like...

00:46:57.100 Muslim, you're not going to care about swearing on the Bible. 1.00

00:47:00.100 They're going to make you swear on the Koran. 0.97

00:47:02.100 Probably.

00:47:03.100 Nah.

00:47:04.100 Would they?

00:47:05.100 I guess.

00:47:06.100 They're going to be like, say Wallahi. 0.78

00:47:07.100 What they mean?

00:47:11.100 Yeah, they probably will.

00:47:12.100 Yeah.

00:47:13.100 That's weird.

00:47:14.100 Cause like, if you don't identify with that religion, I don't see...

00:47:16.100 I mean, hell, even if you're a Christian, you might still lie, obviously. 1.00

00:47:19.100 What's the other option?

00:47:21.100 Swear through like an affirmation or something like that, I think.

00:47:23.100 Solemnly swear.

00:47:24.100 So I...

00:47:26.100 Yeah, that's probably the other way.

00:47:27.100 Okay.

00:47:28.100 Interesting.

00:47:29.100 Very, very interesting.

00:47:30.100 Guys, do me a favor, by the way.

00:47:31.100 We got 900 plus y'all watching over on YouTube and another like 12 or 1300 watching on Rumble.

00:47:36.100 So we got over 2000 y'all in here.

00:47:38.100 Can you guys do me a favor and like the video on YouTube?

00:47:40.100 Please open up another tab, watch it on YouTube and like the video on YouTube.

00:47:44.100 Let's get those YouTube numbers up because as you guys know, haters are going to hate,

00:47:47.100 haters are going to hate, but we want the channel to go ahead and grow anyway.

00:47:50.100 This is...

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00:48:30.100 You know, I don't think that's like a Christian thing because you cannot swear on the name

00:48:35.100 of God if you're a Christian.

00:48:37.100 Oh, you can't?

00:48:38.100 Okay.

00:48:39.100 No, you can't.

00:48:40.100 Are you the same...

00:48:44.100 This is going to be an ignorant question.

00:48:46.100 Are you the same type of Christian that Fresh is?

00:48:47.100 Same thing, right?

00:48:48.100 I don't know what Fresh is.

00:48:49.100 I asked you the other day because I don't know what he is.

00:48:53.100 I don't know what he's praying to.

00:48:55.100 I know he doesn't believe in like the saints and all that other stuff.

00:48:59.100 He's not a Catholic. 0.73

00:49:00.100 He doesn't believe in the Christian?

00:49:02.100 No.

00:49:03.100 Maybe closest to non-denominations is what we call it.

00:49:06.100 It's kind of like a general Christian.

00:49:08.100 Okay.

00:49:09.100 That's what I think it is.

00:49:10.100 And I know that's what I am.

00:49:11.100 I know another close...

00:49:12.100 A lot of Haitians are like Baptists, but I consider myself non-denomination Christian.

00:49:18.100 So...

00:49:19.100 What's the difference between a Baptist and a Christian? 0.53

00:49:21.100 There's a small little difference, but...

00:49:24.100 There are different kind of Christians.

00:49:26.100 There's a ton.

00:49:27.100 But like there is like a general one.

00:49:30.100 Well, what about...

00:49:31.100 Man, y'all got so many different types, bro.

00:49:34.100 Baptists.

00:49:35.100 What's the other one?

00:49:36.100 The Jehovah Witness. 0.51

00:49:37.100 Yeah.

00:49:38.100 Seven Day Adventists.

00:49:40.100 Oh.

00:49:41.100 Basically, they only go to church...

00:49:42.100 Like they go to church on Saturdays.

00:49:44.100 Yeah.

00:49:45.100 That's like almost like Jewish people. 1.00

00:49:48.100 Oh, yeah.

00:49:49.100 Them boys.

00:49:50.100 Yeah.

00:49:51.100 Yeah.

00:49:52.100 Yeah.

00:49:53.100 Oh, man.

00:49:54.100 All right.

00:49:55.100 So low.

00:49:56.100 But those are like...

00:49:57.100 The bell is going off.

00:49:58.100 I will say those are like very like radical Christians. 0.99

00:50:02.100 Gotcha.

00:50:03.100 All right.

00:50:04.100 Let's keep going.

00:50:05.100 All right.

00:50:06.100 Jennifer Pan swear that the evidence you shall give on this investigation shall be the truth,

00:50:13.100 the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

00:50:15.100 So help you God?

00:50:16.100 I do.

00:50:17.100 Once Jennifer is sworn in, the lead investigator returns to collect the statement.

00:50:21.100 Now I want you to sort of take yourself back to earlier on today.

00:50:25.100 Yesterday, meaning the 8th of November.

00:50:28.100 And tell me about your day.

00:50:30.100 Okay.

00:50:31.100 Start at any point in time, wherever you feel comfortable.

00:50:34.100 And then we're going to move forward.

00:50:36.100 Okay?

00:50:37.100 Yesterday, probably around 9 o'clock in the morning, 9.30, my mother, she woke me up and

00:50:47.100 she told me that she was going to visit my grandfather.

00:50:50.100 Throughout the day, Jennifer explains that she practiced piano, studied piano history,

00:50:54.100 talked on the phone with her friends, and had dinner with her parents.

00:50:57.100 Her mother left for line dancing at 8 p.m. and returned home at about 9.30.

00:51:00.100 At which time Jennifer was alone in her room watching TV, ready to go to sleep.

00:51:04.100 And then suddenly I just heard my mom calling for my dad to come down.

00:51:09.100 And that's when I lowered the volume on my TV.

00:51:11.100 And I could hear the voices.

00:51:13.100 There weren't any voices I was very familiar with.

00:51:17.100 And so I was scared and I couldn't move.

00:51:19.100 I just sat in my room for a while.

00:51:22.100 And then I thought I heard them all leave the top floor and I peered out of my bedroom door.

00:51:27.100 And the guy was there and he came at me and had string in his hands and tied my arms back

00:51:32.100 and said, I have a gun behind your back.

00:51:34.100 Do what I say.

00:51:35.100 If you do what I say, then no one will get hurt.

00:51:37.100 There is an actual Wikipedia page for this girl.

00:51:40.100 She's 37 now.

00:51:42.100 And this happened in 2010.

00:51:44.100 Yeah.

00:51:45.100 Yeah, she's older than me because she was 24 in 2010.

00:51:48.100 Yeah, she was born in 1986.

00:51:50.100 Damn.

00:51:51.100 Four years older.

00:51:53.100 37.

00:51:54.100 Yeah.

00:51:55.100 And she's sentenced to life imprisonment with the possibility of parole.

00:52:01.100 She was born, what, in 1986?

00:52:02.100 86, yeah.

00:52:03.100 86.

00:52:04.100 Is that the year White Snake came out with...

00:52:07.100 Here I go again on my own.

00:52:11.100 Dun dun.

00:52:12.100 Going down the only road I've known.

00:52:16.100 Is that when it came out?

00:52:18.100 I love how you wrapped the mic up.

00:52:20.100 Hey man, I had to...

00:52:21.100 You want to sing it.

00:52:22.100 These are good vocal mics.

00:52:23.100 I don't know the song.

00:52:24.100 What y'all think, man?

00:52:25.100 These are actually one of the best in the music industry.

00:52:27.100 Myra Jackson coming out soon?

00:52:28.100 You gonna see me moonwalking in this bitch? 1.00

00:52:30.100 You gotta think about my singing skills.

00:52:33.100 Oh man, we gotta do Michael Jackson.

00:52:38.100 We'll do it for you guys.

00:52:39.100 Yeah, we will do Michael Jackson.

00:52:40.100 Ow! 1.00

00:52:41.100 Let me see here.

00:52:42.100 I'm gonna look up White Snake when that shit came out. 1.00

00:52:46.100 Oh! 0.60

00:52:47.100 May 2023, the Court of Appeal for Ontario ordered a retrial for Penn and her conspirators on the first-degree murder charge, but upheld the attempted murder conviction.

00:53:00.100 That's crazy.

00:53:01.100 That was this year.

00:53:02.100 This year?

00:53:03.100 Mm-hmm.

00:53:04.100 All right.

00:53:05.100 Crazy.

00:53:06.100 Is she granted that, or is she granted anything?

00:53:09.100 What?

00:53:10.100 Is she granted anything?

00:53:11.100 Like, is the judge giving her, like, the appeal or something, or maybe a retrial?

00:53:17.100 No.

00:53:18.100 Like, is she allowed it?

00:53:19.100 No, because she's got the possibility of parole after 25 years, and she got convicted in 2010.

00:53:25.100 So, yeah, she got a way long time.

00:53:30.100 Here I Go Again was released in 1982.

00:53:32.100 My bad.

00:53:33.100 Ah.

00:53:34.100 I was off.

00:53:35.100 I got...

00:53:36.100 Came out earlier.

00:53:37.100 That's crazy.

00:53:38.100 I got too excited.

00:53:39.100 Still in the 80s.

00:53:40.100 That's still in the 80s.

00:53:41.100 It's still in the 80s, but like, I mean, bitch was born in 86. 1.00

00:53:43.100 I'm trying to think.

00:53:44.100 What was the top song in 1986?

00:53:45.100 Didn't I just remember?

00:53:46.100 37, bro?

00:53:47.100 She old as hell yeah, bro. 0.63

00:53:48.100 How old was she in 2010 then?

00:53:51.100 Uh, she was, uh, 24.

00:53:54.100 24.

00:53:55.100 Man, and I thought she was like 16. 0.77

00:53:57.100 She looks so young.

00:53:58.100 Yeah, she looks like a kid, right? 0.55

00:53:59.100 Yeah, she does.

00:54:00.100 Wow.

00:54:01.100 Oh, walk this way.

00:54:02.100 Run DMC with, uh...

00:54:04.100 Ah.

00:54:05.100 Hm.

00:54:06.100 So...

00:54:07.100 Walk this way?

00:54:08.100 Yeah.

00:54:09.100 This bitch's song is Kill This Way. 1.00

00:54:11.100 Oh, shit.

00:54:12.100 Alright, let's keep going.

00:54:15.100 Money, show me where your money is.

00:54:17.100 My mom kept trying to get up, and they kept telling her to sit down. 0.74

00:54:20.100 And so, I didn't want her to get hurt, so I told her mom to sit down. 0.98

00:54:23.100 They were trying to find her wallet, but she, her English didn't good, so she kept sitting

00:54:27.100 first.

00:54:28.100 They kept pushing her down onto the chair, you know.

00:54:31.100 Okay.

00:54:32.100 Take your time.

00:54:33.100 Take your time.

00:54:34.100 All of this is very important, so take your time.

00:54:38.100 Jennifer's nonverbal communication up to this point has made sense, and the reflection

00:54:41.100 of her mother's last moments seems to push her over the edge.

00:54:44.100 It could be assumed the detective still considers Jennifer a victim at this moment, but in the next

00:54:48.100 moment, he will start becoming suspicious.

00:54:50.100 They kept all the lights off on the main floor.

00:54:55.100 The only time there was light was when they opened the fridge door to see if they could

00:55:00.100 find where my mom's purse was.

00:55:01.100 Take yourself back to a moment in your life when you have been overwhelmingly upset about

00:55:05.100 something, and at the same time were trying to explain to someone why you were upset.

00:55:08.100 You wouldn't quietly and reservedly convey the events.

00:55:11.100 You would likely blurt them out in a forceful and disordered manner.

00:55:14.100 Your sole focus would be on processing your thoughts and conveying them into speech.

00:55:17.100 The emotional turbulence of severe hysteria and grief makes it very difficult to convey

00:55:21.100 thought into actual dialogue, and the simple wording of a sentence becomes very challenging.

00:55:25.100 Jennifer seems to find her words easily and executes her sentences perfectly.

00:55:29.100 One of the gentlemen asked my father if he had money in his wallet and where his wallet

00:55:33.100 was.

00:55:34.100 Gentlemen?

00:55:35.100 I was next to the stairwell.

00:55:36.100 They took me up the stairwell.

00:55:37.100 I mean, no, she refers to the people that robbed their dad as gentlemen.

00:55:41.100 I would argue that's the opposite of gentlemen.

00:55:43.100 That's weird.

00:55:44.100 That's Ruffman.

00:55:45.100 And it's weird that you're calling these people gentlemen.

00:55:48.100 Sorry, I have to give myself the tomato.

00:55:51.100 Thanks.

00:55:52.100 Felt like fresh for a second.

00:55:54.100 I don't know how he stands it.

00:55:59.100 I'm like, ah, damn, that was bad.

00:56:04.100 Yeah, so it's okay.

00:56:05.100 I give myself the L as well.

00:56:07.100 You know what we need sometimes when Fresh sells those badass jokes?

00:56:10.100 You know that fucking hook?

00:56:11.100 Back in like the old Looney Tunes cartoon?

00:56:13.100 Yeah, oh yeah.

00:56:14.100 The nigga says some dumb shit. 0.66

00:56:15.100 They just take the hook and yoink that nigga offstage. 1.00

00:56:17.100 And Apollo.

00:56:18.100 Yeah.

00:56:19.100 Or some like tomatoes.

00:56:21.100 We need some shit.

00:56:22.100 Yeah, we need some shit like that.

00:56:23.100 Where at first it's a bad joke and it's just like, whoop.

00:56:25.100 It's just like, whoa.

00:56:26.100 Boom.

00:56:27.100 Goes into the shadow realm.

00:56:28.100 Boom.

00:56:29.100 Boom.

00:56:30.100 Boom.

00:56:31.100 There it is, like.

00:56:32.100 Boom.

00:56:33.100 Boom.

00:56:34.100 Boom.

00:56:35.100 Boom.

00:56:36.100 Boom.

00:56:37.100 Boom.

00:56:38.100 Boom.

00:56:39.100 Boom.

00:56:40.100 Boom.

00:56:41.100 Boom.

00:56:42.100 Boom.

00:56:43.100 Boom.

00:56:44.100 Boom.

00:56:45.100 Boom.

00:56:46.100 Boom.

00:56:48.100 Boom.

00:56:49.100 Boom.

00:56:50.100 Boom.

00:56:51.100 Boom.

00:56:52.100 Boom.

00:56:53.100 Boom.

00:56:54.100 Boom.

00:56:55.100 Boom.

00:56:56.100 Boom.

00:56:57.100 Going off.

00:56:57.880 Boom.

00:56:58.880 Boom.

00:56:59.880 Boom.

00:57:13.880 Boom.

00:57:15.880 Boom.

00:57:16.880 Boom.

00:57:17.880 Boom.

00:57:20.880 and then I heard two pops

00:57:23.380 my mom screamed 1.00

00:57:25.680 I yelled out for her 1.00

00:57:27.680 and a couple more pops

00:57:30.500 take your time

00:57:36.880 take your time

00:57:38.140 yo it's crazy how she's putting on this act right now

00:57:42.680 no you keep going Mo

00:57:43.680 I'm just like shocked that like

00:57:45.100 look at how she's like literally acting 1.00

00:57:46.860 and I think I heard my mom say a moan or something

00:57:49.560 and they did one more

00:57:50.800 before they left

00:57:51.560 I like to think

00:57:52.580 I like to know why a person that

00:57:54.960 because GCS gave us like an introduction of the case

00:57:58.820 and they basically told us everything

00:58:00.620 like what happened

00:58:01.420 but if you don't know anything about this case

00:58:04.220 how would you take

00:58:04.960 you would buy it yeah

00:58:05.540 yeah how would you take this interrogation

00:58:07.780 and him as the detective right

00:58:09.180 he's not going to sit there and be like

00:58:11.040 hmm I wonder if she's a son

00:58:13.040 like he's going to like

00:58:13.900 obviously it's a young girl

00:58:15.020 her parents just got killed

00:58:16.380 you're not going to sit there

00:58:17.760 you're trying your best to actually not make them feel

00:58:19.820 like a perpetrator

00:58:20.940 you want them

00:58:21.460 hey you're a victim

00:58:22.120 I'm interviewing you in this way

00:58:23.680 they build rapport

00:58:24.440 yeah you want to build rapport

00:58:25.440 get the story out

00:58:26.220 but this woman is literally just being 1.00

00:58:27.940 an actor on some demons

00:58:29.820 like what the hell's going on here

00:58:31.920 so yeah the fact that she could do this

00:58:36.400 is wild

00:58:38.220 yeah I'm about to give her a Grammy for that performance 0.91

00:58:40.060 yeah bro

00:58:40.640 that bitch is like Emma Gabby 1.00

00:58:42.880 the girl that lied on the Tate Brothers 0.79

00:58:45.700 like god damn bro

00:58:46.740 oh god

00:58:47.480 messaging her friend on WhatsApp

00:58:50.540 oh we're going to be on Netflix and Hulu and shit

00:58:52.780 like what the hell bro 0.59

00:58:54.080 it's the Asians 1.00

00:58:54.840 I'm just kidding

00:58:56.480 I'm just kidding

00:58:57.920 I'll take that seriously

00:58:58.660 Angie's the real racist

00:58:59.480 I've been telling y'all man

00:59:01.100 I'm just kidding

00:59:01.460 someone in the chat actually said

00:59:02.740 they're like

00:59:03.460 who's the racist

00:59:04.520 the person who wears the outfit

00:59:05.840 or the person who sews the outfit

00:59:07.200 sir

00:59:07.780 you're asking the right god damn questions

00:59:09.780 the person that sews the outfit

00:59:11.360 is the real racist

00:59:12.480 if y'all heard what the hell she'd be saying off camera

00:59:14.520 y'all niggas would really 1.00

00:59:16.060 it's not me

00:59:17.700 that's racist

00:59:18.220 it's actually her

00:59:18.960 it's called dark humor

00:59:22.120 oh now it's dark humor

00:59:24.100 oh now it's dark humor

00:59:25.540 now it's dark humor

00:59:27.120 let's talk about Cubans Angie

00:59:28.500 what do you got to say about Cubans

00:59:29.640 ooh

00:59:30.240 uh uh

00:59:30.740 nah I'm just kidding

00:59:31.800 we're on YouTube

00:59:32.380 we're on YouTube

00:59:35.320 hit the elevator

00:59:36.160 we don't got that

00:59:40.680 can't build it on this stream

00:59:41.660 but god damn

00:59:43.000 uh

00:59:43.880 yo

00:59:44.500 I'm just kidding

00:59:45.300 no you weren't

00:59:46.880 I was just

00:59:47.380 I remember I was like

00:59:48.720 I'm like yeah yeah yeah

00:59:49.440 I got

00:59:49.680 I got a hell of love for the Cubans

00:59:51.000 she was like

00:59:52.400 I'm like

00:59:53.740 oh damn

00:59:54.580 I'm like damn

00:59:56.180 what's the mechanic

00:59:57.340 the mechanic's a Cuban

00:59:58.720 instant racism

01:00:00.260 instant

01:00:01.160 insults

01:00:02.280 were said

01:00:02.740 said that I will not

01:00:03.720 repeat here

01:00:04.480 they just want money

01:00:04.980 like them boys

01:00:06.720 so

01:00:07.160 uh

01:00:07.840 well

01:00:08.360 alright let's go back to the god damn thing

01:00:13.020 before we get cancelled

01:00:13.740 I love my Cuban people

01:00:14.500 shout out to the Cubans man

01:00:15.880 she don't love them

01:00:16.740 yeah

01:00:17.060 shout out to the Cubans man

01:00:18.340 I love Cubans

01:00:19.940 I do too

01:00:20.720 wrong guy

01:00:21.120 I denounce Angie

01:00:21.900 oh my god

01:00:22.260 my dad is watching this

01:00:23.600 he's gonna kill me

01:00:25.020 he probably agrees with you though

01:00:26.320 he erases too

01:00:27.740 let's keep going

01:00:30.460 racism is funny

01:00:33.020 and then they ran out the door

01:00:35.560 and I think

01:00:36.680 once they ran out the door

01:00:38.460 I heard my dad go up the stairs

01:00:40.960 and at that point

01:00:41.720 Jennifer has clearly gotten her story straight beforehand

01:00:44.060 yet in the next moment

01:00:45.120 appears to realize how unusual it is

01:00:47.080 that she was able to make a phone call

01:00:48.460 when her hands were tied behind her back to a banister 0.93

01:00:50.540 she hesitates

01:00:51.500 stutters

01:00:52.060 and even looks to the detective for approval twice

01:00:54.260 before she quickly moves on 0.93

01:00:55.500 I had my phone

01:00:56.260 in my

01:00:56.860 on me

01:00:58.320 behind me

01:00:58.900 that I had hidden there

01:01:00.400 that they didn't know about

01:01:01.280 so

01:01:02.320 I had my phone

01:01:03.660 yeah I'll see that

01:01:04.240 she's seeking approval

01:01:04.980 on me

01:01:05.740 behind me

01:01:06.320 that I had hidden there

01:01:07.820 that they didn't know about

01:01:08.680 so

01:01:09.740 when I

01:01:10.420 when I

01:01:10.960 when I thought

01:01:12.100 that they had heard them all leave

01:01:13.200 and my dad ran up the stairs

01:01:14.160 I whipped up the phone

01:01:14.900 and I called

01:01:15.320 911

01:01:15.720 but I still hadn't heard anything from my mom

01:01:19.180 and all I could hear was my dad running on the street

01:01:21.020 moaning

01:01:22.760 sounds

01:01:23.320 sounds

01:01:23.720 the detective then breaks the event down into components

01:01:27.660 and has Jennifer go through each moment in more detail

01:01:30.020 the first of which is the appearance of the intruders

01:01:32.220 Jennifer now describes the one who appeared to be in charge

01:01:34.760 the only thing I can remember was him

01:01:36.520 was he had dreadlocks

01:01:37.540 he had dreadlocks

01:01:38.440 so are you

01:01:38.920 can you describe his race to me?

01:01:40.680 he had dreadlocks

01:01:41.260 did it

01:01:41.820 was his head covered?

01:01:43.120 was his face covered?

01:01:44.340 boom baca

01:01:44.900 just that his dreadlocks were

01:01:46.420 like

01:01:47.140 kind of like flopping all over the place

01:01:49.200 boom baca

01:01:49.880 see his face

01:01:51.120 and they kept the lights dark

01:01:52.360 as much as

01:01:53.040 as much as possible

01:01:55.020 you have a flopping everywhere

01:01:56.600 did you see the gun?

01:01:58.060 oh I saw the top part of the gun

01:01:59.160 what did it look like?

01:02:01.000 um

01:02:01.260 kind of

01:02:02.720 it was black

01:02:03.940 yeah

01:02:04.380 do you know where the other

01:02:05.520 guys involved in this are?

01:02:07.080 I know one stayed with my parents downstairs

01:02:09.460 okay

01:02:10.200 um

01:02:10.960 the other one

01:02:11.660 I'm not

01:02:13.240 at that point in time

01:02:14.220 I

01:02:14.340 was more focused on him

01:02:16.300 like

01:02:16.880 he was seeing me

01:02:17.880 and he was coming after me

01:02:19.000 so you're saying there's three for sure

01:02:20.640 yeah

01:02:21.160 that's all

01:02:21.620 you saw a total of three at one time

01:02:23.020 you saw three people together?

01:02:24.080 yes

01:02:24.240 when I went downstairs

01:02:25.000 I saw three shadows

01:02:26.080 she details the appearances

01:02:27.480 of the other two assailants

01:02:28.660 whom she asserts

01:02:29.420 were also black males

01:02:30.460 the detective then brings her back

01:02:31.860 to the one in charge

01:02:32.720 now the first guy

01:02:33.440 who spoke to you

01:02:34.160 what kind of

01:02:34.680 did he have any accent?

01:02:36.320 none that I could make out

01:02:37.380 was it clear English?

01:02:39.000 English

01:02:39.300 unbroken

01:02:39.860 unbroken

01:02:39.880 no accent

01:02:41.600 from the terms he used

01:02:43.200 I didn't get to pick up an accent

01:02:44.320 he used short phrases

01:02:45.520 he sounded Canadian

01:02:47.160 I would say

01:02:48.540 yes he was born here

01:02:49.780 he was born here

01:02:50.580 she asserts that the second intruder

01:02:52.060 didn't speak

01:02:52.680 while the third had a Caribbean accent

01:02:54.240 she then goes on to say

01:02:55.320 she was taken down stairs

01:02:56.400 for a brief moment

01:02:57.200 and saw her parents under guard

01:02:58.600 in the living room

01:02:59.160 her father was asked

01:03:00.060 where his wallet was

01:03:00.940 and he told them

01:03:01.560 it was in the master bedroom

01:03:02.580 Jennifer was then taken back 0.76

01:03:03.940 upstairs alone

01:03:04.680 with two of the assailants

01:03:05.740 to help them find it

01:03:06.540 they don't find the wallet

01:03:07.520 but instead retrieve a pile of cash

01:03:09.240 from inside the nightstand

01:03:10.340 Jennifer was then tied 0.99

01:03:11.480 to the upstairs banister

01:03:12.560 and left alone

01:03:13.480 as the intruders went back down

01:03:14.940 and the next thing I can hear

01:03:15.980 are them telling my parents

01:03:17.140 to move to the basement

01:03:17.840 okay

01:03:18.760 and I'm asking them

01:03:20.200 why where are you going

01:03:21.120 and my mom's yelling to me

01:03:22.020 I want my daughter

01:03:23.320 why can't my daughter come too

01:03:24.580 I want my daughter

01:03:25.740 Jennifer then hears

01:03:28.500 one of the intruders yell

01:03:29.560 you lied to us

01:03:30.620 who do you hear

01:03:31.560 yelling you lied to us

01:03:33.040 or to that extent

01:03:33.700 number three

01:03:33.920 number three

01:03:34.880 I'm assuming it's to my father

01:03:36.520 because he was the one

01:03:38.320 asking for the wallet

01:03:39.080 now you hear this

01:03:40.460 commotion downstairs

01:03:41.560 you said you heard

01:03:42.800 two pops

01:03:43.500 and you heard

01:03:45.540 who scream

01:03:46.080 my mom

01:03:47.160 your mom

01:03:47.840 and what was she screaming

01:03:49.240 do you remember

01:03:50.220 I couldn't make it out

01:03:50.760 it was kind of like

01:03:51.700 a cry

01:03:52.240 cry yell 0.99

01:03:53.080 so it was just

01:03:53.800 okay

01:03:55.140 they had made

01:03:56.020 the first round

01:03:56.820 or pop

01:03:57.500 pop

01:03:57.920 and

01:03:58.840 they had said

01:04:00.500 okay that's enough

01:04:01.200 let's go

01:04:02.540 who said that

01:04:03.420 whose voice is that

01:04:04.120 number one

01:04:04.640 okay

01:04:05.300 and then I heard

01:04:06.120 one more after that

01:04:07.180 and they're like

01:04:07.920 that's enough

01:04:08.380 let's go

01:04:09.080 okay

01:04:10.100 and again

01:04:10.560 that's number one

01:04:11.220 yes

01:04:12.540 so what do you hear

01:04:14.100 next after you hear

01:04:14.660 the scrambling

01:04:15.140 they're gone

01:04:15.900 because you're hearing

01:04:17.140 no more

01:04:17.580 I gather

01:04:17.840 that's how you assume

01:04:18.460 they're gone

01:04:18.780 is because you don't

01:04:19.180 hear your dad

01:04:20.060 I reach for my phone

01:04:21.340 okay

01:04:21.820 and you call 911

01:04:23.100 okay

01:04:24.040 when your father exits

01:04:25.660 you hear the door open

01:04:26.480 because you hear your daughter

01:04:27.480 and then you see

01:04:28.000 and then I can hear

01:04:28.400 like the outside noises

01:04:29.800 this robo rat 1.00

01:04:31.800 which one

01:04:33.240 when we read it

01:04:40.300 well that'll be funny

01:04:41.480 okay

01:04:43.780 like the wind

01:04:44.800 coming in

01:04:45.720 and I just hear my dad

01:04:46.480 I think

01:04:47.180 you think that he sustained

01:04:52.200 some kind of injury

01:04:52.800 because he's not

01:04:53.280 you can't understand

01:04:53.920 what he's saying

01:04:54.420 okay

01:04:55.460 what about

01:04:56.440 do you

01:04:57.020 can you hear your mom

01:04:57.820 okay

01:04:59.680 where does your dad go

01:05:01.340 do you know where

01:05:01.820 you never see your dad again

01:05:03.080 until when we're at the hospital

01:05:04.080 I think that's what you said

01:05:05.400 right

01:05:05.620 I saw him when he was

01:05:06.860 on the granny

01:05:07.280 is there any reason

01:05:08.940 to suspect

01:05:10.240 or anything that's happened

01:05:11.300 in the recent

01:05:11.860 weeks leading up

01:05:13.280 that would

01:05:14.200 have you guys be

01:05:15.920 a target of some type

01:05:17.580 of incident like this

01:05:18.760 you live a

01:05:20.160 straightforward

01:05:20.820 kind of almost

01:05:21.900 routine life

01:05:22.580 whenever Jennifer smiles

01:05:24.520 it takes her a couple seconds

01:05:25.740 to realize she's not

01:05:26.700 exhibiting the correct behavior

01:05:27.860 and she then snaps back

01:05:28.980 into her solemn stare

01:05:30.000 what in your opinion

01:05:32.760 would cause people

01:05:33.800 to target

01:05:34.400 your house

01:05:35.240 to think there was

01:05:35.820 a large quantity of money

01:05:36.580 I'm not sure

01:05:38.640 now you say

01:05:40.240 your mom drives a Lexus

01:05:41.340 it could be

01:05:42.280 because of the aesthetics

01:05:43.300 yes

01:05:43.740 what about your dad

01:05:44.400 he drives a Mercedes

01:05:45.200 and he loves that baby

01:05:46.240 is that right

01:05:47.120 the questions end here

01:05:49.180 and the detective

01:05:49.800 leaves the room

01:05:50.480 for half an hour

01:05:51.160 to double check

01:05:51.820 if he needs

01:05:52.240 any more information

01:05:53.020 after 15 minutes

01:05:54.120 of Jennifer waiting alone

01:05:55.180 we're gifted

01:05:55.680 with another performance

01:05:56.620 of the startle reflex

01:05:57.600 only this time

01:05:58.460 it's slightly less convincing

01:05:59.680 he drives a Mercedes

01:06:01.600 and he loves that baby

01:06:02.900 what?

01:06:07.680 if investigators

01:06:08.620 were certain

01:06:09.120 of Jennifer's innocence

01:06:09.960 this would have been

01:06:10.700 the first and last time

01:06:11.780 she would have been 0.78

01:06:12.280 questioned in such a manner

01:06:13.460 police are extremely careful

01:06:14.780 in how they involve

01:06:15.580 victims in investigations

01:06:16.620 as to not cause

01:06:17.580 further unnecessary trauma

01:06:18.860 but on this particular

01:06:19.740 occasion

01:06:20.180 it would come as no surprise

01:06:21.420 that Jennifer's

01:06:22.120 psychological well-being

01:06:23.160 was of less concern

01:06:24.160 she was officially

01:06:25.020 still a victim

01:06:25.640 and witness

01:06:26.260 but unofficially

01:06:27.200 a leading suspect

01:06:27.940 she was called back

01:06:28.860 in to give another

01:06:29.520 statement just two days

01:06:30.600 later at 9 a.m.

01:06:31.580 she was told the reason

01:06:32.560 was to collect more details

01:06:33.680 but you'll notice

01:06:34.420 that the line of questioning

01:06:35.360 and the answers they attain

01:06:36.500 have little to no use

01:06:37.540 for anything outside

01:06:38.320 of Jennifer's culpability

01:06:39.400 the actual reason

01:06:40.360 for this second statement

01:06:41.280 is to collect further

01:06:42.260 information to use

01:06:43.100 against her at a later stage

01:06:44.380 in this interview alone

01:06:45.540 they already start

01:06:46.360 the process of cross-examination

01:06:47.860 and start to catch her 0.67

01:06:48.800 out in previous lies

01:06:49.860 Jennifer is still

01:06:50.700 a witness at this moment

01:06:51.600 and the exchange is void

01:06:52.680 of any direct confrontation

01:06:53.800 yet she is still put

01:06:54.920 under a modest amount

01:06:55.780 of pressure

01:06:56.200 and the holes in her story 0.96

01:06:57.360 start to become

01:06:57.980 ever more apparent

01:06:58.780 so they're catching on early

01:07:00.460 yep

01:07:02.260 they're already catching on early

01:07:03.340 yep cause these things

01:07:03.820 don't add up

01:07:04.520 and remember

01:07:04.880 the whole phone thing

01:07:05.660 is very confusing for them

01:07:06.840 wait you were tied up

01:07:08.080 but how'd you get a hold

01:07:08.800 of your phone to call 911

01:07:09.760 this doesn't make sense

01:07:10.740 yeah

01:07:12.380 she didn't think that through

01:07:13.800 like she didn't come up

01:07:15.160 with like an after story

01:07:16.320 you know after the fact

01:07:17.820 after the killings

01:07:18.620 dumbass

01:07:19.920 agent

01:07:20.520 wait what

01:07:25.660 did you

01:07:25.920 what

01:07:27.140 what

01:07:28.760 yo

01:07:31.600 what was I

01:07:32.580 I don't think I can

01:07:36.380 repeat it for you too

01:07:37.240 I'm just gonna

01:07:38.400 yo

01:07:40.080 I'm

01:07:40.980 yo

01:07:41.860 she's racist 1.00

01:07:42.900 just keep going

01:07:44.500 she's racist 1.00

01:07:45.240 damn

01:07:46.660 god damn

01:07:49.020 take that first interview

01:07:52.660 that we had

01:07:53.500 which was you know

01:07:54.540 hours after what

01:07:55.340 what had transpired

01:07:56.120 put it aside

01:07:57.040 it's almost like

01:07:57.780 we've never spoken before

01:07:58.800 okay

01:07:59.280 so we're starting afresh

01:08:00.520 we're starting from new

01:08:01.400 that way you're not gonna say

01:08:02.460 I think I already told him that

01:08:03.440 don't worry about what you've already told me

01:08:04.840 do you Jennifer Penn

01:08:06.220 swear declare that the evidence

01:08:07.720 that you give in this investigation

01:08:08.980 shall be the truth

01:08:09.800 the whole truth

01:08:10.360 and nothing but the truth

01:08:11.120 will help you God

01:08:11.680 yes

01:08:11.940 we're gonna see if we've learned

01:08:14.700 or if you've remembered anything else

01:08:16.060 and there's some questions

01:08:17.480 with respect to that statement

01:08:19.060 that I'm gonna ask you about

01:08:20.340 okay

01:08:20.740 but I'm gonna let you start again

01:08:21.940 and let's

01:08:22.820 let's move forward from

01:08:23.800 any time in that day

01:08:24.800 where you want to start

01:08:25.400 if it's the time you woke up

01:08:26.260 or if it's the time that

01:08:27.040 your first interaction

01:08:27.980 it's your choice

01:08:28.680 okay

01:08:29.220 I'm just

01:08:29.660 I'm very nervous

01:08:31.620 and I

01:08:31.860 why are you

01:08:33.200 why are you nervous

01:08:34.460 tell me about why you're nervous

01:08:35.500 because I don't want to say

01:08:37.440 the wrong thing

01:08:38.100 oh

01:08:38.740 because

01:08:39.060 that day was

01:08:40.280 a lot

01:08:41.400 you're right

01:08:42.360 and I've been

01:08:43.420 scattered

01:08:45.320 and so bits and pieces

01:08:46.500 are here

01:08:47.080 and some pieces

01:08:47.660 aren't here

01:08:48.400 and

01:08:48.780 I'm just

01:08:50.360 so

01:08:50.760 I want you to sit back

01:08:52.640 in your chair

01:08:53.080 okay

01:08:53.700 just sit back in your chair

01:08:54.680 take a deep breath

01:08:55.840 okay

01:08:56.640 close your eyes

01:08:57.700 just follow my line

01:08:58.660 just sit back in the chair

01:08:59.400 for a second

01:08:59.820 sit back

01:09:00.460 relax

01:09:01.560 the best you can

01:09:02.700 close your eyes

01:09:04.620 and just breathe for a minute

01:09:07.500 okay

01:09:08.440 the most curious detail

01:09:16.100 you've probably come to notice

01:09:17.300 is this

01:09:17.880 it's known as a self-pacifying gesture

01:09:19.820 a person who does this

01:09:20.880 is most often uncomfortable

01:09:22.000 and sometimes fearful

01:09:23.080 of what lies ahead

01:09:23.920 it's a coping mechanism

01:09:24.940 to dissipate stress

01:09:25.940 and afford self-assurance

01:09:27.120 what I can remember is

01:09:28.600 when I woke up

01:09:30.200 I had some breakfast

01:09:31.820 she practices on the piano

01:09:33.380 studies piano history

01:09:34.640 plays games on her phone

01:09:35.920 and speaks with her friends

01:09:37.040 on Facebook

01:09:37.560 during the morning hours

01:09:38.600 Facebook

01:09:38.880 her mom leaves to visit

01:09:39.640 her grandfather

01:09:40.220 at around noon

01:09:41.000 and returns at 3pm

01:09:42.240 to prepare dinner

01:09:42.940 her father comes home

01:09:43.880 at around 4.30 from work

01:09:45.200 and dinner is served

01:09:46.040 one hour later

01:09:46.760 her mother leaves

01:09:47.460 for line dancing at 7

01:09:48.560 then returns at 9.30

01:09:49.840 Jennifer at this point

01:09:50.860 is in bed

01:09:51.360 talking with her friend

01:09:52.140 on the phone

01:09:52.660 and her father

01:09:53.280 is in the computer room

01:09:54.140 she then hears her mother

01:09:55.020 loudly call out to her father 0.99

01:09:56.360 she's clearly aware

01:10:06.540 that she has to appear

01:10:07.380 mournful over the subject matter

01:10:08.760 and sensibly draws out

01:10:09.860 this emotion

01:10:10.320 at the correct moments

01:10:11.180 yet what's fascinating

01:10:12.220 is how she's unable 0.98

01:10:13.160 to maintain this emotion

01:10:14.280 when inquired

01:10:14.860 over the same elements

01:10:15.800 in this very moment

01:10:16.820 she appears

01:10:17.460 completely grief stricken

01:10:18.460 but when the investigator

01:10:19.400 inquires further

01:10:20.260 this supposed grief

01:10:21.280 rapidly dissipates

01:10:22.280 it's extremely difficult

01:10:23.480 to convincingly act out

01:10:24.660 an emotion

01:10:25.060 while evaluating a question

01:10:26.280 it requires two

01:10:27.220 completely different

01:10:27.880 parts of the brain

01:10:28.640 which is why most people

01:10:29.600 can only do one of these

01:10:30.420 things at a time

01:10:31.100 this is exactly what you

01:10:32.120 see in the next moment

01:10:32.940 and continuously

01:10:33.620 throughout this interview

01:10:34.560 she then hangs up the phone 0.93

01:10:54.240 with her friend

01:10:54.760 once she hears the commotion

01:10:55.900 as i'm hanging up the phone

01:10:56.900 with him

01:10:57.080 i hear footsteps

01:10:57.680 going up the stairs

01:10:58.320 okay

01:10:59.000 but they're not

01:11:00.120 they're heavier footsteps

01:11:02.120 than what is to be expected

01:11:04.060 from my parents

01:11:04.720 okay

01:11:05.420 jennifer hears unfamiliar voices

01:11:07.180 so she opens her door

01:11:08.360 to investigate

01:11:08.900 she has spoken for two minutes

01:11:10.380 up to this point

01:11:11.040 without being interrupted

01:11:12.020 and once again manages

01:11:13.240 to build up her emotion

01:11:14.220 to correlate with a

01:11:15.080 supposedly terrifying event

01:11:16.360 yet as soon as the detective

01:11:17.480 interjects with a question

01:11:18.500 we once again see

01:11:19.400 this emotion dissipate

01:11:20.460 i peered out

01:11:21.120 and there was

01:11:21.860 a person

01:11:23.340 in the

01:11:25.100 what would have been

01:11:26.000 my brother's room

01:11:26.640 and where's your

01:11:27.260 brother's room located

01:11:27.980 just a little bit down

01:11:29.340 like i could see my

01:11:30.100 from my doorway to his doorway

01:11:31.280 just a little bit down the hall

01:11:32.340 okay

01:11:33.280 the first intruder

01:11:35.660 then robs jennifer

01:11:36.520 at gunpoint

01:11:37.120 before taking her

01:11:37.800 to the ground floor

01:11:38.560 where she then sees

01:11:39.400 her parents sitting

01:11:40.140 next to each other

01:11:40.880 from where i was standing

01:11:43.860 my father was sitting

01:11:44.780 on the right

01:11:45.220 and my mother was

01:11:46.060 sitting on the left

01:11:46.980 sitting where

01:11:47.640 on a couch

01:11:48.920 on our couch

01:11:49.600 sitting on the couch

01:11:50.820 are they looking

01:11:51.680 out towards you

01:11:52.240 no their backs

01:11:53.320 are towards me

01:11:54.060 okay

01:11:54.680 and you're now

01:11:55.700 on the ground level

01:11:56.500 are you on the floor

01:11:57.340 or on the sitting

01:11:58.140 on the floor

01:11:58.620 i'm sitting on the floor

01:11:59.420 all right where

01:12:00.180 are your hands

01:12:00.680 they had tied my hands

01:12:02.020 so let's go

01:12:02.420 let's go back up

01:12:03.440 to the stairs

01:12:03.840 remember we said

01:12:04.440 her emotional display

01:12:06.040 in seeing her parents

01:12:06.920 in distress

01:12:07.520 gradually faded

01:12:08.400 after each interjection

01:12:09.440 but you'll now see

01:12:10.160 it completely cease

01:12:10.940 altogether once she

01:12:11.900 realizes that she

01:12:12.700 made her first mistake

01:12:13.620 everything she had

01:12:14.460 said up to this point

01:12:15.280 correlated with her

01:12:16.080 initial statement

01:12:16.740 but she had just

01:12:17.460 forgot to mention

01:12:18.100 that she was first

01:12:18.800 tied up before

01:12:19.420 being taken downstairs

01:12:20.480 and only brought it up

01:12:21.600 when reminded by the detective

01:12:22.760 take the other statement

01:12:23.700 and whatever we've said

01:12:24.400 before

01:12:24.660 no i said it earlier

01:12:25.980 she didn't say

01:12:26.580 she was tied up earlier 0.78

01:12:27.520 she completely forgot

01:12:28.320 to mention it

01:12:28.900 and seems to be trying

01:12:29.760 to convince the detective

01:12:30.620 otherwise

01:12:31.100 it's a moment of

01:12:31.940 slight panic

01:12:32.500 which becomes far more

01:12:33.560 pronounced when you

01:12:34.240 compare it to her 0.99

01:12:34.880 supposed grief-stricken

01:12:35.820 recollection

01:12:36.360 five seconds earlier

01:12:37.280 the detective doesn't

01:12:38.160 challenge this

01:12:38.780 as it can be used

01:12:39.600 against her at a much

01:12:40.380 later stage

01:12:41.020 and the main objective

01:12:41.820 at this point

01:12:42.440 is to collect as much

01:12:43.240 conflicting information

01:12:44.080 as possible

01:12:44.680 okay then we must

01:12:45.400 let's get back to that

01:12:46.560 i think you might have

01:12:47.120 touched on it

01:12:47.500 we went back

01:12:47.920 into the description

01:12:48.480 so where does he

01:12:49.400 where do you get

01:12:49.880 your hands tied

01:12:50.420 and where does

01:12:50.840 the string come from

01:12:51.620 i'm not sure where

01:12:53.000 the string comes from

01:12:53.720 but he had the string

01:12:55.080 okay

01:12:55.640 and he after i gave him

01:12:57.900 my money that's when

01:12:58.780 he tied my hands

01:12:59.460 she is then taken

01:13:00.480 downstairs where she

01:13:01.380 sees her mother being

01:13:02.160 interrogated by the

01:13:03.040 second assailant over

01:13:03.900 the whereabouts of the

01:13:04.680 cache according to her

01:13:05.740 first statement the

01:13:06.540 second assailant never

01:13:07.440 said a word the entire

01:13:08.420 time

01:13:08.820 he had pushed her

01:13:09.500 back onto the couch

01:13:10.240 who pushed her

01:13:11.060 number two

01:13:11.720 okay

01:13:12.300 he was pushing her

01:13:13.020 back onto the couch

01:13:13.720 and she kept saying

01:13:15.920 where's my purse

01:13:16.560 where's my purse

01:13:17.360 and the guy kept

01:13:19.180 telling her to sit down

01:13:20.080 and i don't want my mom

01:13:21.080 to get hurt

01:13:21.660 the acting man

01:13:24.900 this is crazy

01:13:25.640 how many times does

01:13:26.400 she get up and get 0.99

01:13:27.060 pushed back down

01:13:28.020 i'd say she got up

01:13:34.980 twice

01:13:35.940 has number two

01:13:38.860 uttered a word

01:13:39.360 at this point in time

01:13:40.220 i can't remember

01:13:42.180 hearing him

01:13:42.680 okay

01:13:43.360 so we're just correcting

01:13:44.920 what you said earlier

01:13:45.560 because you said earlier

01:13:46.300 that it was number two

01:13:47.160 who was asking where the

01:13:48.060 purse is what are the 0.99

01:13:48.700 purses and now you've

01:13:49.460 said now it's number one

01:13:50.660 guy who would

01:13:52.040 i'm sorry

01:13:52.480 no no

01:13:53.340 it's all a purpose

01:13:54.460 the purpose here is

01:13:55.600 clarifying what you're

01:13:56.340 saying

01:13:56.600 so number one

01:13:57.500 i just don't want to

01:13:58.000 number one is

01:13:58.920 the one who's doing

01:13:59.900 the talking about

01:14:00.360 i don't want to

01:14:00.980 make or three

01:14:01.840 mess up my

01:14:02.420 story

01:14:02.820 okay

01:14:04.240 okay

01:14:04.980 jennifer continues to

01:14:06.040 make contradictions

01:14:06.800 and is forced to

01:14:07.660 correct herself

01:14:08.240 multiple times

01:14:09.100 after she notices

01:14:09.860 the puzzled gaze

01:14:10.700 from the detective

01:14:11.280 he inquires over

01:14:12.240 the appearance

01:14:12.740 of assailant number

01:14:13.480 two who was

01:14:14.220 wearing a hoodie

01:14:14.820 according to the

01:14:15.400 first statement

01:14:15.920 do you get a good

01:14:16.500 look at number two

01:14:17.060 now of what he's

01:14:17.640 wearing

01:14:17.860 all i could tell

01:14:19.480 was he had a vest

01:14:20.120 and his face was

01:14:21.160 like a long oval face

01:14:22.480 he had a vest

01:14:22.960 no hoodie

01:14:24.300 okay

01:14:25.140 uh dark hoodie

01:14:27.260 okay

01:14:27.820 did you see them

01:14:29.140 recover anything

01:14:29.720 inside your mom

01:14:30.320 and dad's room

01:14:30.800 i did not see

01:14:32.520 anything no

01:14:33.180 are you sure

01:14:35.580 because uh

01:14:36.240 we would

01:14:36.820 when we spoke

01:14:37.280 the last time

01:14:37.900 there was some

01:14:38.420 mention of some

01:14:38.920 other money

01:14:39.240 that went missing

01:14:39.800 i believe when

01:14:44.320 they were looking

01:14:44.720 for my father's

01:14:45.300 wallet they had

01:14:45.800 opened the drawer

01:14:47.120 and there was

01:14:49.320 uh it was in an

01:14:50.040 envelope

01:14:50.340 what drawer would

01:14:51.160 that have been

01:14:51.560 in

01:14:51.780 on my

01:14:52.580 on the

01:14:54.080 if you're in

01:14:55.060 at the door

01:14:56.160 where i was

01:14:56.520 standing on the

01:14:56.900 left side

01:14:57.360 bedside table

01:14:58.860 whose side of

01:15:00.060 the bed is

01:15:00.380 it

01:15:00.520 that's my

01:15:01.180 mother's

01:15:01.460 side of the bed

01:15:01.840 okay

01:15:02.500 more than likely

01:15:03.300 a total coincidence

01:15:04.120 yet she almost

01:15:04.980 appears to be

01:15:05.580 praying that she

01:15:06.220 gave the correct

01:15:06.760 response

01:15:07.300 fortunately for her

01:15:08.360 she was correct

01:15:09.060 on this occasion

01:15:09.700 and approximately

01:15:11.480 how much money

01:15:12.040 i'm not sure

01:15:14.040 how much she

01:15:14.420 took out for

01:15:14.960 our our trip

01:15:16.140 but i can

01:15:18.020 i can only

01:15:18.860 estimate about

01:15:20.400 a few hundred

01:15:20.860 dollars

01:15:21.260 a few hundred

01:15:21.740 because at the

01:15:22.220 time the last

01:15:22.860 time you told me

01:15:23.440 you were pretty

01:15:23.800 adamant about

01:15:24.540 eleven hundred

01:15:25.020 dollars

01:15:25.300 so i'm curious

01:15:25.960 to know

01:15:26.240 how you came up

01:15:26.840 as you guys can see here

01:15:26.880 she's trying to

01:15:27.500 remember her lies

01:15:28.320 and she's also

01:15:28.960 trying to you know

01:15:29.780 reconstruct the story

01:15:30.700 and i've always said

01:15:31.760 this the good thing

01:15:32.400 about catch about

01:15:33.220 criminals and them

01:15:34.080 lying is they never

01:15:35.580 lie once you can

01:15:36.480 never only tell one

01:15:37.320 lie you have to tell

01:15:37.960 a multitude of lies

01:15:38.920 to continue to cover

01:15:39.760 up for prior lies

01:15:40.960 made so um what

01:15:42.940 he's doing now is

01:15:43.640 he's just getting her

01:15:44.180 to kind of trip over

01:15:45.060 her own words and

01:15:46.080 you guys are seeing

01:15:46.720 uh you know a flurry

01:15:48.240 of emotion where she

01:15:49.460 cries at one second

01:15:50.340 then she tries to

01:15:51.040 rationalize to give us

01:15:51.960 answer here on

01:15:52.880 another second um

01:15:54.060 she's trying to

01:15:54.480 remember what she had

01:15:55.060 said in other

01:15:55.500 interviews so she

01:15:56.460 can make it um you

01:15:57.520 know stick so she's 1.00

01:15:59.480 disheveled and all

01:16:00.160 over the place which

01:16:00.700 is exactly what you

01:16:01.480 want yeah no

01:16:02.220 unfortunately for her

01:16:03.120 the investigators re-watch

01:16:05.360 her interview yeah

01:16:06.780 before like before

01:16:07.720 they brought her in the

01:16:08.420 second time yeah over

01:16:09.220 and over so it's a

01:16:10.600 nail for her for not

01:16:11.520 remembering everything

01:16:12.640 and every detail that

01:16:13.720 she said the first time

01:16:14.600 yep yep yep that's how

01:16:16.340 i'd be catching these

01:16:16.900 girls on the podcast 0.82

01:16:17.600 when they say the

01:16:18.200 stupid shit that they

01:16:18.860 say like yeah i write

01:16:20.900 it down and i'll be

01:16:21.700 listening very closely so

01:16:22.920 um that that's that's

01:16:24.600 how you catch liars

01:16:25.300 guys um like that's

01:16:26.840 why girls on a pod like 1.00

01:16:28.220 i'll literally like just

01:16:29.280 listen to what they say

01:16:30.000 whatever okay she said

01:16:31.120 this and then bam i'll

01:16:31.940 catch her with a uh you 0.97

01:16:33.720 know a conflict later and

01:16:35.220 they're like oh i never

01:16:36.180 said yes you did yes you

01:16:37.660 fucking did bitch you 1.00

01:16:39.180 know yeah uh stop the

01:16:40.600 cow just keep going 1.00

01:16:41.420 that's a it's a really

01:16:42.720 good agent yeah oh this

01:16:45.460 guy uh detective yeah

01:16:47.000 although i'm kind of not

01:16:48.220 surprised well he's got

01:16:48.860 to have his tea you got

01:16:49.560 to keep in mind he's got

01:16:50.180 to have his teas and

01:16:50.800 his eyes cross uh teas

01:16:52.420 crossed and i dotted

01:16:53.300 because this is the

01:16:54.900 victim's daughter and

01:16:58.080 you know he's about to

01:16:58.900 make a very serious

01:17:00.580 accusation you know think

01:17:01.740 about it from a press

01:17:02.420 perspective if the police

01:17:03.740 make an arrest on the

01:17:04.740 victim's daughter they

01:17:05.520 better be sure it's

01:17:06.260 correct because if you're

01:17:06.920 not bro you might get

01:17:07.780 sued out the wooza so

01:17:09.180 he's you know he they

01:17:11.140 got an inkling now that

01:17:12.160 she might be involved but

01:17:13.240 they don't know for sure

01:17:14.000 that's why they're kind of

01:17:14.740 letting her retell the

01:17:15.520 story because they know

01:17:17.080 okay she clearly didn't

01:17:19.440 kill them there were other

01:17:20.300 people there who are

01:17:21.760 these other people so

01:17:22.400 we need to kind of talk

01:17:23.340 to her again yeah but

01:17:24.420 as soon as they find

01:17:25.260 like a little slip of

01:17:27.240 from her part yeah

01:17:28.840 they're just gonna know

01:17:29.580 why yeah but no but

01:17:31.180 the reason why i'm

01:17:31.620 saying like they're being

01:17:32.280 so soft in this in this

01:17:33.660 like interview with her

01:17:34.480 kind of yeah where

01:17:35.500 they're like just telling

01:17:36.640 her to tell the story

01:17:37.280 again etc because they

01:17:38.120 know that she didn't act

01:17:38.760 alone yeah so they're

01:17:40.100 like all right we have

01:17:40.940 to we have to kind of

01:17:42.040 still keep the kid gloves

01:17:43.180 on because there's other

01:17:44.500 conspirators here yeah but

01:17:45.900 now we think that she's 0.87

01:17:46.920 involved with these other

01:17:47.620 conspirators so that's why

01:17:49.880 he's kind of started i

01:17:50.940 know some of you guys

01:17:51.420 in the chat like why

01:17:51.900 does he just say you

01:17:52.480 lying bitch blah blah it's 1.00

01:17:53.840 because he wants to

01:17:54.640 identify who the other

01:17:55.400 people are yeah she

01:17:56.640 couldn't do this alone

01:17:57.320 obviously this reminds me

01:17:58.320 of casey anthony yeah she

01:18:00.400 was also lacking remorse

01:18:01.920 crazy ass chick bro yeah 0.97

01:18:03.960 casey yeah killing her 1.00

01:18:05.380 kid

01:18:05.960 i'm not surprised he's able

01:18:07.980 to catch someone scheming

01:18:09.280 casey anthony that one was

01:18:10.320 a frustrating one her

01:18:12.000 ridiculous lies to the

01:18:13.360 police her and the other

01:18:14.580 girl uh suitcase chick that 1.00

01:18:16.600 one was frustrating too

01:18:17.560 watching i feel like i was

01:18:18.980 doing a fresh fit podcast

01:18:19.980 dahlia de polito too remember

01:18:21.860 who dahlia de polito oh

01:18:23.520 yeah she's crazy too bro if 0.93

01:18:25.620 you guys want to get a

01:18:27.000 headache like i do when i do

01:18:28.100 the podcast watch those

01:18:29.380 episodes and watch the

01:18:30.460 police interview these

01:18:31.420 women bro literally 1.00

01:18:32.840 delusional oh jody areas

01:18:34.600 was a good one yeah she's

01:18:35.660 crazy bro we covered all

01:18:36.840 those women dude could you 1.00

01:18:38.380 imagine interviewing them

01:18:39.200 on the panel bro oh i

01:18:40.760 didn't do it what we got

01:18:42.240 you we got you on a

01:18:43.060 picture we got you on

01:18:43.800 photograph oh that's not

01:18:46.900 me yeah it is like what

01:18:48.820 the fuck oh my god

01:18:51.000 there was a guy that did

01:18:53.260 jody areas who was like

01:18:54.520 what do you keep lying yeah

01:18:56.120 i need to view her oh the

01:18:57.680 interview yeah he got tired

01:18:58.520 of her he's like yeah all

01:19:00.480 right let's keep going and

01:19:01.340 plus i'm not shocked that uh

01:19:03.100 he he's catching on to the

01:19:04.960 scheming because i saw that

01:19:06.160 little balding uh oh

01:19:08.260 balding head oh it's scary

01:19:10.760 to have them all upon to

01:19:11.840 and it's with you man you

01:19:12.600 know what i mean because i

01:19:13.420 killing you no he's not one

01:19:14.440 of them boys oh i doubt it

01:19:16.220 yeah i was looking at the

01:19:17.380 because of the the balding

01:19:18.840 spot now oh oh where it's

01:19:20.600 located i see what you're

01:19:21.380 saying yeah nah that's just

01:19:23.000 to make it going bald bro oh

01:19:24.260 okay yeah yeah yeah for men

01:19:26.780 you always get the male

01:19:27.820 pattern baldness starts at the

01:19:28.860 crown a lot of times but i

01:19:30.640 know what you mean all right

01:19:32.040 i believe because we were at

01:19:38.160 the border and we stopped at

01:19:40.300 the duty-free my mother was

01:19:41.700 deciding whether to use her

01:19:42.640 u.s. currency or her her us

01:19:45.660 currency or her canadian

01:19:46.460 currency so it was at that

01:19:49.560 time you remember hearing

01:19:50.320 eleven hundred dollars and

01:19:51.840 that's what is that the

01:19:52.700 inference you're saying is

01:19:53.640 that because you're pretty

01:19:54.560 solid saying that it was

01:19:55.920 eleven hundred dollars that

01:19:56.640 went missing that was taken

01:19:57.960 and that you saw it when we

01:20:01.520 spoke and who took it who

01:20:07.080 took possession of the money

01:20:07.940 i'm sorry it's all right the

01:20:11.900 detective lets the

01:20:12.580 contradiction slide once more

01:20:13.920 jennifer is then brought to

01:20:15.120 the moment where the

01:20:15.760 intruders had just left and

01:20:17.060 she is tied to the upstairs

01:20:18.060 banister let's come back to

01:20:19.540 now you're being taken to the

01:20:20.860 banister in the other don't

01:20:21.960 apologize okay i'm gonna try

01:20:24.320 and ask you questions to try

01:20:25.500 and clarify points okay if you

01:20:27.340 don't remember you don't

01:20:28.120 remember okay so don't there's

01:20:30.900 no apologizing the only reason

01:20:32.080 you would apologize to me is

01:20:33.040 if you've lied to me that's

01:20:34.100 another okay so then in this

01:20:36.040 case then don't apologize

01:20:36.900 situation you there is no way

01:20:40.000 that you're just gonna forget

01:20:41.200 things just like that and even

01:20:43.100 if this girl's been interviewed

01:20:44.660 two days after the fact so

01:20:46.340 that's just crazy that's just

01:20:47.940 really bad for her yep she's 0.91

01:20:50.660 done

01:20:50.780 she's fucking on some 1.00

01:20:53.340 bullshit man yeah yeah let's

01:20:55.140 keep going

01:20:55.500 it's okay okay i'm gonna ask

01:20:58.240 you questions to clarify points

01:20:59.500 you're now bound to this to the

01:21:02.120 to the railing can you show me

01:21:03.920 can you stand up and turn around

01:21:04.900 and tell me

01:21:05.300 oh that's gonna show on camera

01:21:06.240 how your hands are bound

01:21:07.400 and how you are against the

01:21:10.120 railing you don't have to sit

01:21:10.800 down i just need to see how you

01:21:11.840 work

01:21:12.000 can i just tell you

01:21:13.480 the only reason i'm trying to i

01:21:15.840 need to do this is that i'm also

01:21:17.260 gonna ask you is that it so take

01:21:18.500 this back to from take it out of a

01:21:20.340 traumatizing event which it is and

01:21:21.780 put yourself into a more clinical

01:21:23.180 position because i want to see how

01:21:24.940 you could physically get your phone

01:21:26.140 out of your waistband we're

01:21:27.260 obviously going to need to know

01:21:28.140 that it's very important so

01:21:29.260 traumatize a wide way now put

01:21:31.340 yourself into a just a state of i

01:21:33.340 need to man it mechanically show how

01:21:35.100 i can get access to my phone okay

01:21:36.920 because that's obviously very

01:21:37.920 relevant and we know you made the

01:21:39.040 phone call but questions are going

01:21:40.860 to obviously raise is that if my

01:21:42.280 hands are bound and i'm against the

01:21:43.800 railing how do i talk to a 911

01:21:45.520 operator

01:21:45.920 so clinically this is now a clinical

01:21:48.640 demonstration just stand up focus in

01:21:52.240 on how you did it

01:21:55.600 she's like oh shit i want you to stick 1.00

01:21:57.840 that in your waistband as an example

01:21:59.520 okay so take your just take your

01:22:00.720 sweat off because this will be a very

01:22:01.760 smooth very quick thing it's a one-time

01:22:03.280 demonstration i'm not going to ask you

01:22:04.400 to repeat it

01:22:05.200 the two critical parts of this

01:22:06.320 demonstration are where jennifer states 0.86

01:22:07.920 she was tied and the movement of her

01:22:09.360 arms as she takes her phone out of her 0.97

01:22:10.800 pocket the investigator is hoping the

01:22:12.400 mechanics of the two components would

01:22:13.760 be illogical and contradict each other

01:22:15.360 they tied my upper arm yes around the

01:22:17.960 banister yes but my hands are bound

01:22:19.980 together so your hands bound together

01:22:21.480 and this is the arm that's the strings

01:22:22.900 wrapped around against the banister

01:22:23.820 okay so now how can you get to the

01:22:26.160 phone

01:22:26.380 and how do you make the phone call

01:22:30.320 hey cd

01:22:31.740 whether it be a stroke of luck or that

01:22:35.020 jennifer had prepared for this moment

01:22:36.460 this actually made sense had her arms

01:22:38.440 gone left or the point of restraint

01:22:39.920 been below the elbow none of this would

01:22:41.460 have been possible it's perhaps the

01:22:42.960 single moment where jennifer's

01:22:44.020 statement was somewhat beneficial

01:22:45.280 to her defense we know jennifer was 0.81

01:22:47.040 tied up when police arrived but the

01:22:48.560 assumption was that she had her phone

01:22:49.840 in her hands the entire time and

01:22:51.360 wouldn't have had to retrieve it from

01:22:52.480 her waistband she can now argue that 0.98

01:22:54.080 this portion of her testimony is

01:22:55.360 genuine

01:22:56.000 9-1-1 and do you talk down like that

01:22:59.120 yes i'm yelling at the phone like this

01:23:00.880 and how can you hear i turned the

01:23:03.440 volume on max yes so that's exactly the

01:23:06.720 way that you're talking to her against

01:23:08.160 the railing

01:23:08.640 okay that's good enough sit down

01:23:11.360 jennifer is then brought back to the 0.65

01:23:12.800 government just before she heard the

01:23:13.920 gunshots at this point i started hearing

01:23:15.600 my parents get up i think he still

01:23:17.440 didn't believe her yeah yeah i mean it's

01:23:21.120 pro it's potent it's possible but i mean

01:23:24.320 the phone was very if you notice when

01:23:26.000 she was talking on the phone back it was

01:23:27.360 very clear it didn't sound like it would

01:23:28.560 it would be on speaker yeah but let's keep

01:23:30.800 going

01:23:31.040 because i was thinking about the aging i'm

01:23:33.200 like he sounds like he's not buying it

01:23:34.880 blackberry

01:23:35.360 yeah blackberry yeah probably was 2010

01:23:37.520 yeah

01:23:37.760 yeah the iphone kind of was just a new

01:23:40.080 thing the iphone 4 had just like come

01:23:41.760 out around then

01:23:42.320 i thought she was gonna pull up the hey 0.99

01:23:43.680 siri button

01:23:44.240 yeah nah no hey siri at that point it was

01:23:47.840 fucking blackberries man

01:23:48.960 all right let's keep going

01:23:50.560 and they're moving and my mom's yelling

01:23:53.360 where's my daughter i want my daughter 0.99

01:23:55.040 where's my daughter and i'm yelling at 0.93

01:23:57.760 mom i'm here

01:23:59.920 here jennifer take a kleenex and just 1.00

01:24:04.400 take a minute you'll notice that she

01:24:06.560 doesn't wipe her eyes or blow her nose

01:24:08.240 just buries her face in the tissue which

01:24:09.920 the detective later testified remained

01:24:11.520 completely dry

01:24:14.000 okay so we're now down in the basement

01:24:16.320 they're down in the you know your

01:24:17.280 parents are down in the basement

01:24:18.160 i heard pop and then my mom i heard her 1.00

01:24:22.960 squeal multiple pops occurred there 0.92

01:24:24.960 after before she hears the intruders

01:24:26.480 leave through the front door

01:24:40.000 this is untrue she only realized her

01:24:41.680 father was alive midway through the 9-1-1

01:24:43.760 call

01:24:44.080 and in that exact moment you can

01:24:45.520 actually hear genuine fear in her

01:24:46.880 voice compared to her fabricated panic

01:24:48.560 the moment before

01:24:54.240 the final part of this statement is

01:25:06.800 collecting information to set up the

01:25:08.240 main strategy for jennifer's

01:25:09.520 interrogation that will take place 10

01:25:11.200 days later they go through jennifer's

01:25:12.720 past and gather intel to lay the

01:25:14.480 foundation for what's known as the how

01:25:16.080 and why solution which will be explained

01:25:17.680 in further detail at a later stage what i

01:25:19.440 want to do now is i want to go into your

01:25:21.440 past okay

01:25:25.120 and start talking about things that have

01:25:26.560 been going on with you the detective now

01:25:28.640 morphs into a therapist and what's

01:25:30.160 fascinating is how jennifer doesn't once 1.00

01:25:32.000 question the new line of inquisition

01:25:33.600 many argue that it was the first time

01:25:35.120 jennifer was even asked about such

01:25:36.640 matters giving reason for her

01:25:37.920 willingness to open up this may have

01:25:39.360 been the first time in her life she was

01:25:40.880 able to process her frustrations and

01:25:42.480 vent to someone who appeared to care the

01:25:44.240 first topic is her parents and the

01:25:45.760 expectations and pressures she was

01:25:47.280 under to succeed which led to her 0.60

01:25:48.800 faking her grades and then her college

01:25:50.400 degree as to not be a disappointment

01:25:52.160 how did you feel about that how did you

01:25:53.440 feel about having a lot of your

01:25:54.480 parents i felt guilty but every time i

01:25:56.480 tried to bring it up

01:26:00.560 there was just so much yo the chat you

01:26:03.280 guys got no chill man

01:26:06.000 you guys got mo and angie dying in the

01:26:07.600 background over here we'll send your

01:26:08.720 guys comments i chose someone said

01:26:11.040 they should force her to parallel park 0.98

01:26:12.720 as a punishment

01:26:15.760 an asian woman parallel parking 1.00

01:26:21.360 oh man yo what the fuck man all right 0.90

01:26:25.200 let's keep going

01:26:25.920 you guys man

01:26:35.120 we'll read the chats here in a second

01:26:40.720 i can't eat that's why i'm laughing

01:26:42.160 because that's true

01:26:45.760 and women really suck at parallel parking 1.00

01:26:48.160 this is true

01:26:49.360 it's true

01:26:51.360 and an asian woman oh lord 0.99

01:26:52.880 oh

01:26:53.200 and just like yo w racist jokes

01:26:57.200 all right well let's go back man come

01:27:00.960 on

01:27:01.200 keep going

01:27:03.360 jesus

01:27:03.760 i was trying to hold it in

01:27:08.080 she just referred to the ultimatum she was

01:27:09.680 given by her father the choice to live at

01:27:11.360 home and go back to school or be completely

01:27:13.040 cut off by her parents and live with her 1.00

01:27:14.480 boyfriend information gathering on jennifer's

01:27:16.560 past goes on for roughly two hours and

01:27:18.400 20 minutes the detective then ends the

01:27:20.160 exchange by putting her under some

01:27:21.520 pressure it's not a direct confrontation

01:27:23.360 but it's by far the most uncomfortable position

01:27:25.280 she's been in up to this point the detective subtly

01:27:27.680 switches back to the home invasion and how the

01:27:29.680 intruders were able to gain access without breaking in

01:27:31.840 like you didn't hear you didn't hear a doorbell you didn't hear a door knock you didn't hear

01:27:36.080 a door kicked in you didn't i was i said i was watching tv on the phone i i don't know how

01:27:41.680 yeah i i know we went over that back and back and forth we don't know how

01:27:44.880 so somehow they got into your house by getting through your mom down in the lower level right

01:27:52.720 because she's the only one who's down there she's the only one down there so it's very confusing

01:27:58.400 generally random events are not in most cases random there's a rhyme or reason why they've come

01:28:05.040 to your house but from what you've told me inside the house the only thing that you hear

01:28:09.040 them saying to you is they're looking for money they're not looking for a specific quantity

01:28:13.200 of money no so you're telling me that you you had no involvement in what happened

01:28:19.280 meaning not saying how the outcome came but you you had no involvement in in any type of

01:28:23.440 illegal activity that would have drawn you or the attention of you to have bad people come to your

01:28:27.680 house looking for large sums of money you're not involved in this any which way because the question

01:28:36.080 obviously stands jennifer is you're upstairs and they're downstairs right so it's a natural concern

01:28:46.880 when why would they leave you alone why would they not do the same to you

01:28:52.800 hmm cool question

01:28:54.160 he's sick of her he's sick of her you can't answer that question

01:28:59.360 nope he said i cooperated

01:29:02.640 but i asked him to take me the number one guy the number one guy said you cooperated

01:29:07.840 okay who's to say this whole thing isn't a lie oh that what you're telling me is a lie

01:29:12.960 he has no remorse and i don't understand why she's crying

01:29:28.640 she's trying to she's trying to win the oscar there is nothing that you've said to me today is a lie

01:29:34.080 now back to another very difficult question but if i don't ask it i'm gonna be it's an obvious one

01:29:40.720 the resentment that you had that you may have had towards your parents for the interference in

01:29:44.880 your relationship and your life and essentially locking you down in your house at the end of the

01:29:50.400 day i love my parents and i chose to be with them and if i wanted to i could have just left but i didn't

01:29:58.080 i wanted to stay with them and take care of them you mean they take care of you so this wasn't some

01:30:02.800 evil plot that you thought up to oh my god no no interaction no belief no you didn't have anything

01:30:10.000 to do with this thing at all whatsoever you don't engage in a legal activity no

01:30:15.680 because you know that it'll be very easy it will be a very easy thing to discredit you on right

01:30:19.200 we're we're in the process of trying to add credibility to what you tell us and that's

01:30:22.240 through the process of asking people and doing whatever through that same process it will be

01:30:26.080 very easy to find the flaws in what you've said which again then turns the focus back to you

01:30:31.840 okay it's a natural progress it's a natural thing that investigators do we eliminate people

01:30:36.160 or we draw our attention to them it's a natural thing it's if it's not brain surgery okay the

01:30:43.840 detective leaves the room for 20 minutes to allow jennifer to stew in her own thoughts before they 0.95

01:30:47.840 end the statement he comes back to add one last bit of psychological pressure that he carefully

01:30:51.760 disguises as reassurance jennifer will leave terrified but still believe the police are on her side

01:30:56.800 okay we're pacing around she's nervous now how are you feeling sorry you really scared me did i what

01:31:03.760 i scare you about sit down sit down and take a load off tell me how tell me how you're feeling

01:31:07.680 and how i scared you

01:31:11.200 i don't want you walking away from here thinking i'm evil i want you to walking around from here

01:31:14.160 thinking that this guy is helping investigate my mom's murder and he's going to turn over every

01:31:18.240 stone possible to make sure that we catch the people who do that that's what i want you feeling so i

01:31:21.520 don't want you walking away from here thinking that i'm a i'm i scared you or i'm i'm a bad man

01:31:26.320 sometimes we have to ask very very difficult questions but it's my job okay you're our only

01:31:31.840 link you're it until your dad regains he is back and being able to be be spoken to right now you're

01:31:38.400 our only in this case the father had bullet fragments lodged in his face that doctors couldn't

01:31:42.800 remove and a shattered neck bone at the time of this interview the consensus was that if he did

01:31:46.720 regain consciousness you guys remember this song oh it's copyright actually no no no no

01:31:51.360 no no no no no no no no no no no no no you should have it as a sound effect though

01:31:55.280 is this song oh we have it we have that

01:32:11.280 yeah we have it man we're we we're on it i just don't have it on my soundboard but chris has it

01:32:16.720 so that's why all right let's keep going yeah we got you angie

01:32:24.480 he would be useless as a witness due to irreversible brain damage

01:32:27.760 so we're we may rely on you heavily on until we can speak to your father

01:32:32.480 that's their mistake there so don't be afraid so she's like damn the last thing you should be afraid

01:32:36.720 of it as soon as my dad regains consciousness i am yeah because at this point she didn't really

01:32:42.560 know that he was going to survive so let's keep going no and throughout the whole the whole stuff

01:32:48.720 she was walking with the with the guys yeah that yeah that's why well we'll see that they'll see

01:32:53.040 that here in a second but that's why she was shocked when she heard him scream like that it's like dad

01:32:57.280 she's like oh i thought you were i thought you were dead so uh all right let's keep going they shot

01:33:03.360 him in the face and the shoulder shoulder and he survived of course you got it i mean mo sorry

01:33:08.480 okay it's anything if you've told the truth and you've been truthful through this whole process

01:33:13.760 then you're helping you're doing your part okay and don't be afraid of me i'm just afraid because

01:33:20.720 you know like i know everything is just all pointing negatively right now and i don't understand why

01:33:27.200 i'm just i feel that like the way you're you're speaking to me it's kind of like i know you said that

01:33:32.080 you had to say those things but it's it's here and i've already said it to the special victims

01:33:38.800 yesterday but there's like ideas in my head yeah and i'm afraid to say it out loud

01:33:44.080 fuck your feelings ideas about speculation of what happened how it happened unfortunately uh at times 0.52

01:33:50.000 some of us have to point the finger seem like we're pointing the finger and it really is just to provoke

01:33:53.360 you to see what you're going to do how you're going to respond okay so it's only a question and it's

01:34:00.240 been answered and if you've been truthful okay you have nothing to fear absolutely nothing okay

01:34:09.600 police kept jennifer under close observation from this point forward a surveillance detail

01:34:13.600 was assigned to track her every movement and she was even monitored at her mother's funeral three

01:34:17.520 days later according to reports she was emotionless the majority of the time only showing what appeared

01:34:22.160 to be feigned grief at certain moments she never shed a single tear and kept her eyes to the floor

01:34:26.480 or completely shut for the entirety of the service jennifer's father had in fact awoken from his

01:34:31.040 induced coma the day prior and miraculously seemed to remember everything from the night of the

01:34:34.960 incident he would give an official statement in secret on november 16th and multiple parts of his

01:34:39.280 story contradicted what jennifer had told police the most significant detail was that she was never tied

01:34:43.760 up but instead walking around freely and talking with the intruders as if they were friends he actually

01:34:48.240 spoke with jennifer over the phone but was informed by investigators to act amnesic and not to confront

01:34:52.960 her only to ask her if she thought her ex-boyfriend was behind it she stated that she was almost

01:34:56.960 certain he wasn't the only issue with han's statement was that he had suffered minor brain

01:35:00.720 damage from the gunshot which could be used by a defense team to refute his testimony in court or

01:35:05.040 even get it thrown out altogether furthermore it was essentially his word against jennifer's and

01:35:09.200 their turbulent relationship would also work greatly in the defense's favor york regional police knew they

01:35:13.840 needed a confession for the best possible chance at securing a conviction so they assigned their most

01:35:18.080 experienced investigator to conduct jennifer's interrogation she was called back into the markham police

01:35:22.560 station on the 22nd of november at 2 30 p.m a week and a half after the incident took place so just

01:35:27.520 for the record it is the 22nd of november 2010 we're at the five district station in the town of markham

01:35:36.000 my computer right now says 2 39 in the afternoon okay uh just for the record my name is detective

01:35:42.480 william gates you can just call me bill here today now what do you like to be called what do you prefer

01:35:47.600 jen or jennifer either okay so jen um you're aware that the um audio tape and everything's on

01:35:55.520 um it's the same as last time okay you've been here on two other occasions i understand

01:35:59.760 on the 9th of november and i believe again on the 11th of november is that correct

01:36:04.640 okay and you know why we're here today yeah regarding what

01:36:17.680 okay and as a result of that home invasion um your father uh and pan was actually shot and your mother

01:36:25.600 uh and was actually killed is that correct yeah you'll have to speak up a little bit just so i can hear

01:36:32.560 you what's unique about this interrogator is how he immediately adopts a no-nonsense approach

01:36:38.480 yet manages to build rapport and remain sympathetic at the same time you'll see that he has far less

01:36:42.800 patience compared to the previous investigator yet seems to create a stronger connection with

01:36:46.480 the suspect it's a hard thing to explain but easily observed as you'll soon find out so that's

01:36:50.800 what we're going to discuss here today jennifer this time around has read her rights to silence 1.00

01:36:54.720 rather than her rights as a witness if she knew anything about the law in canada she would be wise

01:36:58.480 to the fact that she is now a suspect fortunately for the investigator she remains completely naive

01:37:02.720 to the situation throughout the opening phase of the interrogation making her far more susceptible

01:37:06.720 to the strategy he is about to employ okay just hold on a second okay we're having technical difficulties

01:37:13.360 here okay so that's why they interrupted me what we're going to do is if you don't mind holding

01:37:17.680 tight there i'm just going to move my equipment to the other room okay and then i'll come over and

01:37:21.120 we'll move over there next door okay i'm just not comfortable doing that okay i'm going to be right here

01:37:25.680 okay with respect to interrogations it's common knowledge that the psychological manipulation

01:37:30.720 begins before a single word is spoken the physical layout of the room is designed to accelerate the

01:37:34.720 sense of discomfort and isolation and it's fascinating to observe how each interrogator

01:37:38.640 has their own unique methods of setting the tone knowing how this interrogation plays out

01:37:42.560 allows us to realize this detective's procedure the considerable distance between him and the suspect

01:37:46.880 will keep her relaxed enough to be influenced by phase one but this same distance will intensify the

01:37:51.200 pressure once he eventually closes it during phase two you'll notice this detective is slow with his

01:37:55.440 first strategy but swift with the second he takes his time in building trust and establishing rapport

01:37:59.840 yet once this initial connection is secured the transition to aggression will be abrupt and ever

01:38:03.920 increasing from that point forward jennifer takes a seat in the room 15 minutes since she was first

01:38:08.240 informed of her rights it's important to note that she is still free to leave at any time at this point

01:38:12.240 she is unknowingly a suspect but not under arrest so just for the record this room is being videotaped

01:38:18.320 just like the other one okay and i'm just going to grab my chair from across the way okay okay

01:38:24.320 the detective goes through jennifer's history of teaching piano and her earlier years of high

01:38:28.240 level figure skating which was cut short due to injury if you didn't get injured would you still be

01:38:31.840 be doing it yeah okay so that's nice and did you as far as that did you do uh like competition skating or

01:38:40.960 and how did you do with that it wasn't at the top of the pack but just in the middle camp so that's

01:38:46.480 good though but you did actually enjoy it it was more than just going for uh competition you enjoyed actually

01:38:52.240 doing so those girls sucks at everything she did okay all right do you have any students right now

01:38:58.800 okay and why not uh the students i were teaching i went to high school in lawson church okay yeah

01:39:05.760 too big for piano yeah i took it in grade school too but uh i think i got i went to grade seven in it

01:39:12.480 i think like in when i was in grade seven i stopped taking it but uh i still remember swans on the lake

01:39:19.840 the detective then goes through jennifer's work history as a server before touching on her future

01:39:23.600 plans in education jennifer mentions that she plans to go by her parents wishes and pursue a career in

01:39:28.160 health care at which point the primary strategy is initiated the how and why solution the detective

01:39:32.720 gradually begins to shift the blame away from the suspect and onto another set of circumstances that

01:39:37.120 prompted the suspect to commit the crime he starts developing a theme that will afford her a

01:39:41.040 psychological justification in doing it and this theme will be further established as the interrogation

01:39:45.520 progresses it starts off subtle so that she remains oblivious to the agenda now if you could pick any job

01:39:51.120 yourself i'm not talking about anybody else but if you could pick for yourself what would it be

01:39:59.120 i'm going to be a counselor on like when i come home but any days when i'd like to have a

01:40:04.640 a simple maybe like a last technician job just work eight like eight hours a day and come home with each

01:40:12.720 this is an answer the detective was hoping for jennifer's preferred career choice is at odds with what her

01:40:17.040 parents wanted so he now builds on the concept of the overly controlling parent and the unfair

01:40:21.120 limitations it causes the child he then links this concept with the subject of jennifer's boyfriend

01:40:25.520 and how she was kept from seeing him now um eventually you were discussing daniel what happened

01:40:31.280 with that relationship i hate it from my parents at first they didn't agree with me having a boyfriend

01:40:36.480 okay and once they found out they didn't like the fact that he was of mixed race okay and

01:40:43.920 they told me to stop him okay and how did that make notice how she leaves out that he was a drug dealer 0.90

01:40:54.000 instead it's oh it's race that's that's my why my parents don't like him

01:40:57.040 filled an empty void which that could be the reason but she's not going to talk about the real

01:41:02.560 major reason which is yo your boyfriend's a drug dealer we keep going they in canada i don't even

01:41:08.160 think they cared that much about race thanks when you broke up you felt the part was missing is that

01:41:14.800 what you're saying when they first told me to stop seeing him stop talking to me i just i felt like

01:41:19.280 a primary was missing okay how did they find out um one day when my mother came to pick me up

01:41:26.720 she saw me dropping off okay dropped you off uh and my mother was coming okay and somehow

01:41:35.600 they saw each other i guess oh my mother saw me i was hugging okay that gave it away what happened next

01:41:41.920 then um i tried to bring him home and my mother at first was like you know bring him home when i brought

01:41:49.600 him home um they didn't they automatically didn't like it for some reason okay okay so you were told

01:41:59.120 to uh stop seeing him so what happened then at first i stopped for a while um like i said i felt really

01:42:07.680 empty and i felt depression and okay mo can you pause it jennifer then goes guys real quick do me a favor

01:42:13.760 we got 1.1k y'all watching on youtube and another uh 1.6 over on um rumble guys do me a favor like the

01:42:22.640 video on youtube and on rumble let's get to 1 000 plus likes so we can hit that 90 engagement let's keep

01:42:28.720 going

01:42:28.960 how she carried on the relationship in secret and how it became more and more of a struggle hiding it from

01:42:36.320 her parents now how has daniel taken it when your parents said that you couldn't see him anymore how

01:42:42.240 did he take it

01:42:50.320 and how did you feel

01:42:55.360 she then goes on to explain that she was living with daniel at his parents house for two years while

01:42:59.200 her own parents thought she was studying at a university and his parents were i guess more liberal

01:43:04.160 than your parents yeah and um they recognized that you loved each other jennifer recounts how she bought

01:43:14.160 a fake diploma for 500 to show her parents and the many other avenues she went down to keep the lie going

01:43:19.360 she eventually gets to the day she was found out how did you end up back home i guess they called up my

01:43:26.000 friend who i said i was staying with in the middle of the night and uh she's groggy and forgot what day 0.74

01:43:34.800 it was so she's like isn't she home and i wasn't home okay she messed up i don't blame her but no okay

01:43:41.760 jennifer then goes on to explain the ultimatum she was given and the restrictive measures that were put

01:43:45.920 in place so that she wouldn't be able to see her boyfriend so how that felt being under those

01:43:50.160 guidelines for the last 18 months it was okay like uh it wasn't the best feeling in the world because

01:43:57.680 my mom's probably trapped okay but uh it's what i chose to be with my family okay and so you made a

01:44:04.160 choice between what um living out on my own with daniel and staying home with my parents did you feel you

01:44:10.320 really had a choice or not there was no choice because family always come first okay and where do you get

01:44:16.960 that from where do you get that belief okay so family's number one yes the detective then brings

01:44:26.240 up jennifer's earlier assertion of being depressed and then affiliates it with the restrictive measures

01:44:30.400 she was living under did you ever feel that they expected too much of you how so comparison to other

01:44:37.600 people okay so who would they compare you to like classmates clubmates okay and so some of them have

01:44:47.600 been successful recently okay and what did they say to you wish you'd have been that person okay so that's

01:44:55.280 pretty hard right hard to take for you what i've heard all my life nothing okay did you ever feel like

01:45:03.040 i know you're smart and they believe you're very smart but did you ever feel you weren't as smart as

01:45:09.600 what they thought that you were okay i get that feeling that it's pretty tough to live up to their

01:45:15.520 expectations okay like your dad ultimately would like to see you be like a doctor those were pretty

01:45:21.280 high standards for anybody not everybody can be a doctor okay and but they may have acted like you

01:45:30.320 could have done it no problem their expectations were so high that few people would be able to

01:45:34.880 reach that expectation i'm not just talking about you i'm talking about anybody all right pause um and

01:45:40.000 it started guys right now he's trying to build rapport with her he's trying to help her justify

01:45:44.080 and rationalize her actions um and this is uh really big when you interview suspects you have to make it

01:45:50.240 seem as though hey i get it i know why you did what you did you know you were going through some

01:45:55.760 shit unrealistic expectations from your parents they're constricting you from your boyfriend

01:46:00.240 like i can see your perspective you almost have to kind of identify with their you got to be be

01:46:05.920 able to step in their shoes and be empathetic to why they might have done what they've done obviously

01:46:10.880 you know nothing ever really excuses you from killing people but it's a tactic used to build rapport

01:46:15.840 with suspects let's keep going

01:46:17.360 the detective further explores the stresses of living with overly strict parents and jennifer

01:46:26.240 explains in further details the way she would cope which for the most part was lying about

01:46:29.760 her grades and living a double life with her boyfriend how did it feel having to lie to them

01:46:33.600 all those years

01:46:39.920 they always looked down and disappointed

01:46:41.440 okay i'm sure there were days when you actually planned that this is the day i'm going to tell

01:46:47.680 them and then you just couldn't spit it out the opening strategy of the how and why solution has

01:46:53.680 now been executed a connection has been attained and the desired narrative established the next phase

01:46:58.080 of the interrogation is about to commence which is first set up by a two-step strategy step one is

01:47:02.480 to induce fatigue step two is to induce fear now when's the last time you spoke to your dad you think

01:47:08.240 the race thing would have played into their heartstrings uh to a degree i if he was asian himself

01:47:13.680 he would be like yeah i totally get it but he's doing a good job of identifying with like being with

01:47:18.000 overly strict parents

01:47:26.400 and what have you and your father discussed about this case

01:47:33.760 well i meant um

01:47:34.640 having a black boyfriend oh do i think what about it like normally like say um like

01:47:45.760 i try not to be like anti-black like like like oh because so my parents didn't like him because

01:47:51.200 he was black oh you think that would have played into the heart she doesn't want to be honest about 1.00

01:47:54.560 it you're saying like that would have played into like the government's heartstrings which she was

01:47:58.240 probably thinking i don't understand your question but but the the girl's boyfriend was chinese too 0.77

01:48:04.160 was asian sorry yeah he was yeah it was the one guy mo daniel he just got the three black dudes to

01:48:10.160 help out yeah well two black dudes and one shulankan who was black too no no shulankans are indians

01:48:17.360 basically they're asians but they're also black

01:48:21.920 not black in the sense that you're thinking of okay okay they're not african-american yeah or

01:48:26.560 they're not from africa they're they're they're they're really dark-skinned uh indians basically is 0.99

01:48:31.440 what if you're gonna not to sound racist or whatever but that's what shulankans look like

01:48:34.800 like they're really dark-skinned like indians or pakistanis okay but they have their own language

01:48:39.120 and their own culture and everything but that's what they look like and smell like no i'm just

01:48:43.920 kidding uh uh let's keep going oh and then we're gonna read chats here in a little bit too mo so mo

01:48:51.680 i have the rumble rants ready once he starts confronting her we'll read the chats let's keep going

01:48:54.640 all right guys like the video god damn it let's get to 1 000 likes on youtube god damn it 0.62

01:48:58.960 i don't think he did okay why would he ask that because he believes that we will talk and that

01:49:09.600 what do you think about that i know that he's moved on so i don't think he would

01:49:18.080 the detective has jennifer go through the entire incident once more but unlike the first investigator

01:49:22.400 offers no reassurance nor consolation jennifer starts fake crying again yet this time is given 0.86

01:49:27.040 no tissues to wipe away her non-existent tears now do you think there's any reason why they tied you

01:49:32.000 up and didn't tie your parents up i don't know does that seem odd to you why does it seem odd

01:49:43.840 because i would always bump up you're separate from the whole time

01:49:51.040 and does it make sense that they would leave a witness behind

01:49:56.640 they're going to kill somebody does that make sense you went on it just thinking about it but it

01:50:03.440 makes sense for somebody that was going to kill somebody to leave a witness behind that could

01:50:07.600 describe them does that make common sense for killers it's not what do you think

01:50:18.640 do you think that was a mistake they made then i don't know they kept saying that they're running

01:50:21.760 out of time doesn't take a long time to kill someone i know i don't know jennifer's dramatics 1.00

01:50:27.360 intensify as the discussion of the home invasion continues she's trying to give off the non-verbal cue 0.98

01:50:31.920 that she wants to move past the incident the detective doesn't respond but continues to go over the

01:50:35.840 different stages of the night in more detail he jumps from the beginning to the end to the middle

01:50:40.000 back to the end and then back to the beginning again none of this is for the purpose of information

01:50:43.600 gathering he is inducing mental fatigue as to diminish jennifer's critical thinking this is

01:50:47.440 often done before a direct confrontation as it can diminish the suspect's ability to consider the

01:50:51.440 long-term consequences of a decision jennifer will get stressed and tired not because she is

01:50:55.440 traumatized by the event being recited but because it's exhausting keeping up such an act when it's not

01:50:59.680 genuine and this performance eventually starts to dwindle and becomes gradually less convincing

01:51:03.760 how did the conversation end with that i heard my father my mother calling for my father

01:51:12.240 and then what i have to go through this again okay that um when you went to bed was your mom home yet

01:51:19.200 she's just gotten home and i went down i told her to be right back and i i went down i said hi to her

01:51:23.920 and now let's pack up to my room okay were you injured at all during the whole process

01:51:34.400 not really anything

01:51:37.840 step two of the confrontation setup will now commence the detective employs what is known as the futility

01:51:42.960 technique he will tell jennifer that he has an abundance of resources at his disposal and even

01:51:46.960 fabricate much of what he asserts he's indirectly telling the suspect it is useless to resist due to

01:51:51.520 the overwhelming evidence against her now the reason why i'm here today okay is that i'm an

01:51:58.240 expert okay and what we call truth verification oh i talked to thousands of people okay all right

01:52:04.400 let's pause right here when he started now he's going to start confronting her so let's read some

01:52:08.080 of these chats um and rumble rants you guys are hilarious um let's see here we got uh fresh fit money

01:52:15.040 clips 10 bucks what's good chat thanks for all your support across all platforms fnf we up appreciate that my

01:52:20.080 friend that's uh from rod eric we got hunter goes good evening for vermont myron have you

01:52:24.800 heard of brianna maitland it's a famous case here in vermont if not uh have you done any cases on fed

01:52:31.520 racks from vermont also have you thought of starting a separate podcast and bringing on detectives for

01:52:36.960 this um i have thought about bringing on other law enforcement people uh that's something that i will

01:52:42.720 do in the future so don't worry but i have never heard of uh can you write that down angie

01:52:47.360 brianna maitland and you haven't heard that one okay can you google it real quick apparently a

01:52:53.040 case out of vermont um hunter uh 47 goes this is crazy went to the same high school as her everyone

01:52:59.680 talked about this case when uh when i was there oh wow cool now shout out to you bro um anybody anything

01:53:08.080 else okay dj build goes fnf never effing leave in question what's your thoughts on deon sanders

01:53:14.800 leadership and can you do a podcast on get more confident speaking at a high level and no and not

01:53:20.240 doubt it born mexico build in the usa um yeah i could do that i could do a public speaking podcast for

01:53:26.560 y'all um it's gonna take time though guys it took me years for me to acquire my public speaking skills

01:53:31.360 and a lot of it came from being in the government presenting cases to like boards of people to get

01:53:35.040 funding i can i've explained that it's explained it before here on fed reacts um how i used to go

01:53:40.800 and when i did my osted f cases uh organized crime drug enforcing task forces you have to present your

01:53:45.760 case in front of a board of different people from the fbi dea etc to request funding and um that's what

01:53:52.320 i would uh that's when i practice a lot of my uh public speaking um who's up next oh yeah and i like

01:54:00.720 what deon sanders is doing and myron's not well aware of um i know who he is but yeah i mean i'll

01:54:06.000 watch sports no more yeah yeah um but just know it's it's a long process what's going on in colorado

01:54:11.760 just so just know that so so just trust the process don't expect anything right away but it's

01:54:16.400 what did he take on a team or something uh yeah he's now he's in a d1 college he came from a

01:54:21.520 a because he was previously putting on the map a um hbcu jackson state in colorado yeah no no no no

01:54:31.280 first he took a couple years coaching a um hbcu put it on the map um they was doing really well

01:54:38.720 extremely well and now he ended up getting a job at colorado university okay so now he's uh he's a

01:54:45.200 football coach yes okay okay he's been and he's been putting that now he's putting that on the map so

01:54:49.680 there's a lot of big headlines going on that's okay all right uh dom of course fresh how could

01:54:55.360 i be so rude also the clean shaven exodia fire episode as always okay dom i don't know what

01:55:01.040 you're talking about but okay uh love watch fed reaction y'all ever thought about doing the central

01:55:05.120 park five i think that would be a good one for y'all to research and do angie has that on the list

01:55:09.920 yes uh shout out to you tori um ellie uh go shout out to south park miami with myron angie and stan

01:55:17.840 and wendy okay i don't know who those people are but wendy chris bills and fresh as cartman kenny

01:55:23.200 butters and kyle all right wait you don't know about south park oh yeah i get it i get it i'm like

01:55:28.480 yo you would love i was gonna say yeah yeah no i watched south park okay they're saying that we're

01:55:32.640 staying in wind uh yeah oh okay okay okay now i get it yeah yeah that's yeah that's what he said

01:55:39.520 as me cartman yeah well that makes sense because you're a fan uh 60 minute conspiracy fresh uh

01:55:45.520 conspiracy time fresh balls is big bow no no that's definitely not him bro that's not me

01:55:50.320 believe me uh fresh balls we still to this day don't know who he is that is my favorite account

01:55:54.240 though get him fresh yes uh w racism all right shout out to you angie probably i'm saying that

01:56:01.120 yeah uh did she say corn pop i heard he was a bad dude i know corn pop is what johnny silverhand

01:56:08.160 uh what else fresh dog used to work with cubans they told me one time how they used to clap pony

01:56:12.800 chicks as kids uh okay freshest dog thanks bro i think he means cuban dogs no uh um like horses

01:56:20.480 maybe oh all right weird all right racist outfit eater creator come on myron stop the cap that's why

01:56:27.200 you love angie all right black vet ah this guy was his son goku it says she was describing anus and

01:56:34.480 reach around the ass okay uh that's from before uh i believe her three diglets yeah sure bro 0.91

01:56:40.240 sure three diglets not the cap uh world's coolest nerd goes average looks average grades average hit

01:56:47.680 if only this took the same energy from organizing a hit into improving her grades smh and big mo any 0.84

01:56:52.880 last chat i was referring to wwe releases um i haven't been catching on to the wwe releases so i was

01:56:59.360 kind of been resting the past couple days okay yeah we've been grinding guys oh yeah so i'm gonna check

01:57:04.080 dragon ball's e-stream coming soon though oh ww mo uh easy goes myron can you ask this girl on uh

01:57:10.400 this on girl panel what dictates a misogynist man versus a man with opinions that don't align with

01:57:14.960 yours it seems like any disagreement with a woman makes you a misogynist yes bro well you must be

01:57:18.480 new here pretty much they're not gonna understand that question yeah if if you don't think like a

01:57:24.080 female it's considered wrong hi man how do you deal with super simp blue pill brothers they're 10 years

01:57:28.800 older than me so they don't validate my points and it hurts to see them go down this road bro you ain't

01:57:33.200 gonna change it until they come until they like are ready for it bro most people are blue pill it

01:57:38.240 is what it is even family members a lot of times it sucks you gotta burn to learn you gotta burn to 0.51

01:57:42.480 learn uh bunny best bets goes moses west ex-military made a machine and that grabs water from

01:57:48.560 moisture in the air and filters it to make drinkable water because you make a segment on this don't

01:57:52.320 think he'll be alive for too long in my opinion okay uh johnny silver and things aren't adding up

01:57:57.920 typical they should uh they should because they she asian but again women plus math they don't add up 1.00

01:58:02.720 either okay well she has asia so she's good at math uh fresh dog she crying to say him when 304s

01:58:08.160 get caught cheating okay uh oh yeah i know what this is sense of blue my way because i've never seen

01:58:14.800 been softer watching a chinese bitch god damn nigga she's vietnamese why can you say uh because it's a 1.00

01:58:21.200 term that youtube doesn't like yeah lepra etc uh they should force her to parallel park his punishment 1.00

01:58:28.080 that was a joke earlier that had us laughing uh yeah the word is banned on youtube it's kind of

01:58:32.400 lame man these 304s be lying third time seeing this and still can't believe the stupidity i know bro 0.92

01:58:37.200 wild nuts at all not tell all uh nutella in my booty in my booty oh okay uh fresh dog she said i can't

01:58:47.520 answer the questions detective but give me an algebra test and i got you okay uh she hit that amber

01:58:53.280 heard real quick facts nutella in my booty pause fresh dog life is roblox i think he said that when

01:58:59.680 she was doing a little twirl oh okay uh let's keep going here so now he's about a confronter so let's

01:59:05.200 see what happens here when she gets some pressure guys got it somebody's not being straightforward with

01:59:14.480 me okay i can tell by the language they use how they answer the questions their body language how they

01:59:20.240 treat the question that something's wrong here okay this doesn't make sense the detective then

01:59:24.800 gives jennifer an eight minute narrative on police tactics and forensic technology some of which is

01:59:28.960 embellished but for the most part true he then asserts that police are able to use infrared satellite

01:59:33.360 imagery to see the occupants inside a household this is entirely false and basically if people are

01:59:38.480 moving around in a house um it's like an x-ray okay and basically we're able to tell you know are

01:59:44.960 those movements are those actions that number of people consistent with the story that we've been told

01:59:49.120 um are the people in the positions that the witnesses are telling us they were in

01:59:54.640 or are they different okay and if they're different why are they different but what a question becomes

01:59:59.040 right and so at the end of the day okay there's so many resources available to me um that at the end

02:00:06.960 of the day i'm going to know if a person's telling me the truth or not the detective is now about to

02:00:12.320 initiate the confrontation but first brings the entire setup full circle by re-establishing the

02:00:16.720 notions of reasoning and rationale the suspect is fatigued and scared but still needs to feel

02:00:21.040 the detective is on her side now i can tell you that nothing surprises me in this job okay i am well

02:00:29.040 aware that anybody on this earth is capable of making a mistake okay i don't care who they are i don't

02:00:36.800 care um if they're a priest i don't care if they're a school teacher i don't care what this is look at

02:00:43.200 her body language she knows she fucked a certain set of circumstances everyone has the capability 0.99

02:00:49.280 jennifer of making mistakes doing the wrong thing okay um the key though when i talk to people is

02:00:57.760 when they made a mistake okay that's one thing right the key is to not keep making the same mistake

02:01:04.160 and to get that information out and get it off your chest okay you understand what i'm saying

02:01:13.360 so at the end of the day from this case and i can tell you i've spent literally a week on

02:01:18.480 this case going over information after information accessing all the sources speaking to every other

02:01:23.600 expert on the case and at this point jennifer i know that you've not been truthful with the police

02:01:32.160 here we go you've not told us everything that you know purposely you've spent a considerable amount

02:01:40.560 of time in the last seven years telling half truths and i can understand why okay you've had a tough

02:01:46.320 life what's happened to you to me equates to abuse and all the stresses that you've had and forced to

02:01:55.280 lie i can understand why you did it okay but you're in another situation here where you're under another

02:02:00.160 tremendous amount of stress and it doesn't feel good inside does it it breaks down the person

02:02:06.000 that you are because at the end of the day you're a good person i know that you've got a good heart

02:02:12.480 in this case though you've made mistakes okay and you're involved in this i know that okay there's

02:02:18.240 no question about it the only question right now is are you going to keep making mistakes are you going to

02:02:25.600 go on the route that you've gone on over the years and try to pretend that things happen that never

02:02:29.600 happen okay are you going to not face reality here we know that you're involved we've done our homework

02:02:36.160 okay we have to resolve that now here today i need to know from you what really happened and i know why

02:02:44.320 this has happened you have spent your whole life trying to live up to expectations that you can't make

02:02:50.400 okay and that stress the hell out of you you're a 24 year old woman being treated like a 15 year old

02:02:56.080 okay what you've never done anything that terrible in your life but you're being treated like you have

02:03:02.320 you're not being treated like the adult that you are yes you made some mistakes big deal

02:03:06.720 you're not the first person that has gone out and not told their parents that they're dating a guy

02:03:11.040 because in your culture they don't accept it i understand that i've talked to people in here that

02:03:15.280 have kept that secret for their whole life from their parents okay so that's not abnormal but that

02:03:20.000 puts a lot of stress on you right that's not easy for you is it no now what we need to get down to

02:03:28.160 here today jen is what really happened pause so what he's doing right now guys um i've done this before too

02:03:37.600 um where you basically listen to them lie over several occasions you guys know they've entered they

02:03:42.320 probably have hours of her lying at this point this is the third interview at this point and best 0.98

02:03:46.000 believe he's listened to all her interviews the interview the dad he's intimately involved in

02:03:50.320 the investigation for him to be interviewing her uh from a suspect perspective at the end so what he's

02:03:56.640 doing right now is letting her know basically politely we know you're full of shit we know you're 0.93

02:04:01.440 probably involved uh your story doesn't jive up we have these tactics where we can you know identify

02:04:07.200 liars like you and we have evidence that shows otherwise blah blah and he's setting this all up to 0.78

02:04:12.000 see how she's going to respond and what she says he's trying to draw a confession from her or make

02:04:16.000 her feel overwhelmed and you know this is typically what you do when you deal with someone that's been

02:04:20.160 like lying constantly over time and you've kind of just been like letting them uh you know giving

02:04:25.280 them the rope to hang themselves and this is pretty much right now is him saying there's no more rope

02:04:29.440 you've pretty much hung yourself what are you going to do from this point so let's see what uh what how she

02:04:34.160 responds here what went on because you know who was in that house that night you do jen there's no

02:04:43.840 question about that okay while remaining empathetic and understanding the detective still needs to keep

02:04:48.560 jennifer's confidence low he watches for denials and stops him immediately letting the suspect deny

02:04:53.280 her guilt will only increase confidence and morale this needs to be stripped away as much as possible

02:04:57.440 as early as possible there's no question about it okay the focus is kept from the magnitude of the crime

02:05:03.120 and concentrated on the justifications of why someone would commit it yes their intentions might

02:05:07.120 have been good but they're not realistic they're not dan were they again their expectations weren't

02:05:14.640 realistic were they you couldn't live up to them could you you tried to right am i right

02:05:26.080 and finally you had to bite back right you had no other choice you felt like you had no other

02:05:31.120 options this is canada we're in the 21st century here you cannot take everything out of a person

02:05:39.360 you can have expectations for your kids but you can't expect them to do everything the way you want

02:05:44.160 it doesn't feel good to have secrets does it no you have to let me know what happened here okay

02:05:52.560 okay but you were involved right that's the part we need

02:05:56.720 okay we need to hear that from you because we know you were the detective appears to be getting

02:06:03.520 nowhere so he now lowers the gauge of admission a confession to a lesser offense is far easier to

02:06:07.840 attain but once it is attained can be used to build on the more damnatory elements of the case you'll

02:06:12.320 also notice that he uses broad terms that infer guilt yet don't directly accuse jennifer of murder you

02:06:17.040 knew before that night that this was going to happen i'm going to make that easy on you that's a true

02:06:21.520 statement right you knew before that night that they were coming right

02:06:30.320 yeah it's not worth it anymore it's hurting you

02:06:37.200 what she seems to be on the cusp of giving some form of admission yet wants reassurance as to what

02:06:41.440 it means for her own sake she asks this question nine times throughout this interrogation it's one

02:06:45.840 of the few things investigators can't actually lie about as it's been used countless times in the past to

02:06:50.320 get a case thrown out under misdirection they can avoid the question yet they can't afford any false

02:06:54.720 promises with respect to sentencing i need to know the details i can't even say

02:07:00.800 but i can tell you one thing is that we already know so you can't change that

02:07:08.720 i know you did but it got too far ahead of you right you didn't see you didn't think this far ahead

02:07:15.680 did you definitely didn't stupid but once they started once they came in you couldn't stop it

02:07:21.120 could you could you jen

02:07:28.160 hmm i know why didn't they stop for you yeah

02:07:36.880 but you were part of the planning right you have to tell me that part and then we're going to work

02:07:41.360 through it together oh here we go you know what i'm saying you didn't want you wanted to stop it

02:07:47.200 you have to prove that to me now because at the end of the day we have to stop this from happening

02:07:52.320 to someone else right

02:07:57.360 jen what happens we're gonna have to deal with it

02:07:59.280 all she cares about man she doesn't care about her nothing i need to know what you did

02:08:03.600 this is a critical moment guys together because critical moment part of this whole thing is

02:08:12.880 that we do the right thing for your mom right i am her voice right now i'm working for your mom

02:08:20.320 that's my job and i have to get to the bottom of this for your mom appealing to compassion isn't 0.81

02:08:26.160 necessarily uncommon when the crime is first-degree murder yet it can send a mixed message when a

02:08:30.160 justification for the crime was a focus point early on the detective takes his chance with it

02:08:34.160 which at first appears to work jennifer initially responds in a poignant manner but you'll soon

02:08:38.400 come to notice that her empathy alongside her concern is solely focused on herself but we got

02:08:43.600 to start what happened to me it's not empathy brother it's all absistic yep absolutely well i don't

02:08:51.760 know at this point okay because i don't know what you're going to tell me other than that you

02:08:55.600 were involved but i need to hear it what this all was was a latch this effort to live your own life

02:09:02.960 to be your own person to make your own decisions look at all your friends look at all the people

02:09:09.520 around you does anyone else have a curfew for nine o'clock at 24 years of age you had no choice here

02:09:19.760 and anybody else in your situation would have done the exact same thing

02:09:23.520 the only thing different is i would say that they'd have done it a lot earlier

02:09:27.520 they would have looked for a way of when did you first start planning this

02:09:35.680 when was the final straw what was the final straw so that's what this is all about

02:09:40.400 do you want to be a good person here jennifer knows exactly what questions to answer and what

02:09:46.240 ones to ignore anytime a question is non-incriminating she gives a response yet when they are incriminating

02:09:51.200 she remains silent she is no doubt feeling the pressure but still very aware of the situation

02:09:55.360 and the potential ramifications of her words okay and you know when a good person makes a mistake

02:10:01.200 they have to face that mistake right right

02:10:07.760 what do you think should happen i don't know you're going to prove to people that you know what

02:10:12.000 the right thing to do is that's what is going to happen that's what your mom wants right now she's

02:10:17.120 watching us here she's wondering is jen going to make the right decision here 1.00

02:10:21.680 is jen after all of this going to come out on top doing the right thing i'm here for you jen

02:10:27.360 i'm here for your mom

02:10:28.240 what happens to me what happens to me fuck my mom well you have to tell it's one of those 0.89

02:10:35.760 situations you don't want we know that what you did okay so you have to be able to explain to me

02:10:41.200 what happened okay i can't what happens to me yeah three diggers said what happens to me bro your

02:10:46.800 mom is dead this happened at nine nine i think she asked nine times man so this girl is crazy big 1.00

02:10:54.400 time she lied to her boyfriend they he broke up with her he broke up with her um and he started

02:11:02.640 dating another girl and she told him that some guys broke into her house and gang raped her what yeah

02:11:14.720 guys we only got 800 likes by the way i need y'all to stop being dorks

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02:11:46.640 channels even fed reacts which has nothing to do with the stuff that's controversial

02:11:51.040 but yeah oh my god yeah we were saying angie no yeah yeah that's crazy that she would lie like 1.00

02:11:57.520 that did she do set up a hit for her and everything after after she no but this is this was before

02:12:05.440 after she found out her parents were still alive yeah oh because her parents found out that she was

02:12:10.240 lying about her job and stuff because she was working in a restaurant yeah because she didn't go to 0.99

02:12:14.880 school or anything and um they made her finish high school because she failed high school like

02:12:20.320 a bum yeah and and they they forbid her to to be with the boyfriend with the boyfriend so he got 1.00

02:12:27.600 tired of that and he started dating another girl okay and when she couldn't get late every time he

02:12:32.160 got tired of sneaking in through the window he's like that this just sucks yeah i'm gonna go get 0.88

02:12:35.600 another chick that's parents aren't crazy he was a drug dealer and he was a pixie guy he was making 1.00

02:12:40.000 pixels so he damn he was um he was dating another girl when she found out about this new girl

02:12:47.760 she told him that a man broke into her house wearing a police badge and then several men entered and

02:12:56.800 gang gang raped her yeah bro and then she claimed after this that a bullet was mailed to her 0.97

02:13:04.160 wow yeah and that both of these events were made by this the boyfriend's girlfriend 0.80

02:13:10.400 can you believe that this girl's insane dude she's insane literally killed her parents for this 0.94

02:13:17.760 dude lied and said that she got gang rape bro this chick is weird bro this nigga wong must have had 1.00

02:13:23.440 some game or something bro he had wong must add the wang i don't know what that was his name

02:13:30.480 jason wong or some daniel daniel wong so um angie's more upset that he's a pizza maker than a drug

02:13:37.840 dealer yeah man no i just can't believe this chick is so crazy you're like yeah he's a drug dealer but 1.00

02:13:42.480 ugh he's a pizza maker yeah all right let's keep going daniel chi kong wong bless you it's his name yeah

02:13:50.240 tell you what's exactly going to happen to you you just have to be brave here you have to be brave

02:14:00.880 three hours 20 minutes and 26 seconds the exact amount of time it took for jennifer to display

02:14:10.160 genuine emotion the investigator would later testify this was the first moment the suspect

02:14:14.000 was being authentic he allows her to fixate on whatever thought brought this on

02:14:17.360 and remains completely silent for just under two minutes

02:14:27.360 you're sorry can't you

02:14:32.640 the detective now has one foot in the door it's not an outright confession but jennifer has now 0.70

02:14:56.400 admitted to planning the home invasion all along and although she asserts that she was the intended

02:15:00.320 her parents were meant to be spared the information she has now given is enough to place her under

02:15:04.800 arrest jennifer is no longer going home after this interview the detective now presses for more

02:15:08.880 information on the amended storyline it's essentially step one of day one all over again but from a more

02:15:13.920 powerful position he knows she is still lying and now locks her into as many lies as possible within 1.00

02:15:18.560 the new narrative what happened why did it change okay what do you know how come it was supposed to be you

02:15:28.560 w racist chat bro yeah chat yeah the rumble chat going crazy both and youtube yeah man

02:15:38.560 two wongs don't make two wongs don't make a white 0.88

02:15:41.040 okay you made some mistakes but nothing that couldn't be corrected so who did you get to do this

02:15:58.640 then okay and what's his number she skirts around the questions surrounding her accomplices and gives

02:16:09.600 multiple fake names she stated that she got the number of the supposed hitman from an acquaintance

02:16:13.680 named rick and that she took everything from there over the phone it becomes apparent she doesn't

02:16:17.440 want to give up or even mention her boyfriend so for the time being the detective allows her to recount

02:16:21.600 her amended narrative in the manner she pleases so what did you ask them to do then come take me out

02:16:28.320 in the late okay why didn't they do it when you were um when your parents were there then never alone

02:16:40.480 okay so that meeting you had with rick you told him what you wanted no i just said that i wanted

02:16:46.240 if you knew anybody who could take care of something that i needed and he said what

02:16:53.120 did he have the number with him that day yes okay what did he say he would do

02:17:01.520 so he does come into the house and you're the obvious only young girl there right okay

02:17:09.040 when he came to her so now we're going to go through the scheme

02:17:11.440 what discussions did you have with the guy that came to your room the real discussions you had not

02:17:16.960 what you told us where was the money and i told him where the money was okay but he obviously said

02:17:23.040 his parents had two hundred thousand dollars in savings oh her parents had 200k damn what did

02:17:28.560 they do for work they uh i don't really know found out but they were political refugees that's

02:17:34.720 why they went to canada okay that makes sense yeah political refugees bro uh let's keep going

02:17:41.440 what did he say his hands behind your back did he discuss ways with you how he would do it no

02:17:51.920 did you request any way for him to do it make sure no one else was around okay why didn't they do it

02:17:57.920 the way you want i don't know i asked them i asked him to take me and my mom when they took him away

02:18:03.360 it doesn't seem to make sense i know it doesn't make sense to me

02:18:06.400 okay can you sit up for a minute john

02:18:13.360 okay look at me the detective wants an outright confession and the second direct confrontation is

02:18:17.760 about to commence only this time it will be a lot more aggressive as he doesn't have to worry as much

02:18:21.840 about the suspect locking up or requesting counsel she is under arrest and going to jail after this

02:18:26.000 interrogation no matter what look at me okay what i do believe is that you went to somebody and i do

02:18:34.960 believe that night you paid them the two thousand dollars but what's not true is it was never for

02:18:39.440 you okay jen no okay you went to this person and you asked them to do a job and the job was for your

02:18:48.080 parents you asked them to do this job on your parents jen okay let's be truthful okay nobody's going

02:18:57.840 to come there and get the wrong people um they were made a specific request and the job was for

02:19:04.320 they were um manufacturers auto parts manufacturers auto part manufacturers yeah okay yeah they worked as

02:19:14.400 tool and die maker were they entrepreneurs like they owned it or did they work for a company they

02:19:19.920 worked for a company called magna international okay yeah hard-working immigrants man they probably that

02:19:26.160 that was probably their life savings and her plan her plan guys was to um kill kill her parents 1.00

02:19:33.120 and inherit like five hundred thousand dollars apparently they had more money i'm just saying

02:19:37.360 right now okay but they had 200 in the bank yeah at the time of their death maybe maybe life

02:19:42.240 life savings or something sorry uh life insurance right yeah yeah so she was planning on

02:19:46.640 inherit that money and run away with her boyfriend and like buy a house and run away together

02:19:51.680 yeah i'm not gonna get caught what an idiot bro yeah that was the main point stupid 0.98

02:19:59.040 yeah all right let's keep going talking about women 1.00

02:20:04.320 can't even commit murders properly you stupid yeah the illusion is real man yeah stupid all right 0.89

02:20:10.000 your mom and dad okay nobody's gonna come in there and do the wrong job okay nobody's gonna do that

02:20:21.680 they came you paid and they did what they were supposed to do and the plan was for your parents okay

02:20:29.280 jen you have to be honest with this is the only thing that's in contention here okay you made the

02:20:34.000 mistake okay everybody understands everybody in this police department feels sorry for you i can tell

02:20:39.120 you that right now okay because they've seen what you're going through okay okay that all this

02:20:45.120 tension they put out basically it's like a volcano all right and at one point it was just too much

02:20:50.880 and you erupted okay and you made a bad decision okay and once you hired this guy there was no turning

02:20:56.480 back now in the original story you said that you hid your cell phone okay if it was for you you

02:21:02.720 wouldn't have hid your cell phone that would have never happened so it's in conflict it's just i i

02:21:09.440 put it there naturally it's what i naturally did okay but you said on tape that you hid it there and

02:21:15.120 that they didn't know about it that's your language not mine jen all the ones with so much success out

02:21:21.920 of you they were not even looking at you as a person they were looking for a success story

02:21:26.880 instead of just saying whatever jen wants is what's good for us

02:21:34.160 whatever she's happy with as long as she's happy in her life i'm happy with it if she wants to work

02:21:39.840 at eastside mario's for the rest of her life that's fine if she wants to be a piano teacher that's great 0.99

02:21:46.640 if she wants to continue figure screening that's wonderful why would somebody shoot someone they

02:21:51.680 didn't have to shoot i don't know i can't figure that out and actually not shoot the person they're

02:21:55.360 supposed to shoot i don't know if i'm trying to figure it out okay why didn't you tell us this

02:21:58.800 that night then i'm scared scared of what telling the truth so you're a liar the good thing about 0.56

02:22:07.520 this is your dad did live that went against the plan if you could make this decision over you would

02:22:13.600 change it okay you would change it right of course because i knew we were going to get hurt of course i

02:22:21.120 wouldn't jen you knew who was going to get hurt that's the whole issue okay that's the whole issue

02:22:26.080 here you gave them the plan for your parents right that's all i need to hear no jen tell me what

02:22:33.280 happened i told you what happened okay all of it okay all you have to do is here is tell me right now

02:22:41.520 bill yes i made a mistake this plan was for my parents the detective gets no further admission from

02:22:48.720 this point forward so he leaves jennifer alone for three minutes to play with her hair before

02:22:52.320 he comes back and charges her with first degree murder oh here we go okay i need you to listen

02:22:58.240 close to me okay jen at this point in the investigation okay i'm going to be arresting you for murder 0.75

02:23:06.080 okay also attempted murder and conspiracy to commit murder do you understand that bam

02:23:12.160 just have to tell me if you understand those charges yes okay so what we're going to do right

02:23:20.320 now is do you have your own lawyer no no okay do you have a lawyer you would like to speak to that you

02:23:27.120 know of no okay would you like to speak to duty counsel

02:23:32.160 i think he's the only one who can help me i understand okay so who would that be i don't know

02:23:43.360 so do you have i'm sure her parents know some good lord oh wait never mind

02:23:50.640 that was easy i'm sure her parents know some good lord oh wait never mind

02:23:54.720 well his dad is alive though her dad is alive um um this technique that this uh

02:24:06.560 messy girl is supplying is called the rape technique and apparently in canada uh police is allowed to lie 1.00

02:24:13.920 in interrogations yeah they are allowed they're allowed to lie yeah they're allowed they don't have

02:24:19.200 to tell you all everything they can sensationalize and me personally i didn't really lie to them like

02:24:25.040 that i would tell them hey you're facing this amount of time blah blah because i think but yeah they're

02:24:28.800 trying to get a confession out of them yeah but yeah but you can you can have i know plenty of guys

02:24:32.880 that would lie to chip like to well yeah a lot of girls too but lie to uh to suspects yeah you can lie 1.00

02:24:38.480 so well apparently this technique creates like an environment where they can feel comfortable

02:24:42.960 but then um make them put like put them under like um uh a high amount of pressure so they can like

02:24:50.160 get the the confession so it's way easier for them because they can they are allowed to lie yeah but

02:24:54.960 about like it depends like you can't be like oh yeah no you're not going to get any time or anything

02:24:59.600 like that like no you can't make promises if you do that that'll fuck you up yeah that'll be big like 0.89

02:25:03.920 if you try to make a promise then that'll fuck you up no but apparently this guy what he did was that 0.86

02:25:08.480 he told her that he um he had like uh the infrared bullshit was yeah that's yeah that's that's cap

02:25:15.120 yeah yeah like a satellite that's and that's why i always stayed away from like lying about

02:25:19.120 shit like that because it's like bro come on man like but she's a dumb 20 year old so he was like

02:25:24.000 later but like that's why typically i would stay away from lying about dumb shit like that so is that 0.71

02:25:30.960 is that something in america too like um can like american yeah yeah canadian and law enforcement

02:25:36.160 canadian and american yeah like they can like um like american government they can say oh we got

02:25:40.800 this on you etc they can say yo your friend is snitching they could do all that yep okay yep they can

02:25:47.760 and here we go

02:25:53.520 i am on your side jen what would you like to do something up

02:25:58.160 stop the cap

02:25:58.960 do you want me to call duty council for you okay okay or is there any other lawyer that you would

02:26:07.280 like okay so at this point you wish to speak to duty council then sure okay so what i'm going to

02:26:13.520 have to get you to do is actually empty all your pockets on the table here i'm going to make sure

02:26:17.920 that they are making a call to duty council and we'll line that up and you can speak to the duty council in

02:26:21.760 private okay we've uh made a call to duty council for them to call back okay do you need a drink of

02:26:34.080 water or anything what's that uh i do have to uh go and speak to these officers but i'll come back and

02:26:40.640 speak to you okay but we had to get we got to take care of the lawyers okay that's the priority right now

02:26:45.760 okay the next time jennifer would see this detective would be when he testified at her trial

02:26:52.560 it began on the 14th of march 2014 and jennifer pled not guilty to all charges her interrogation

02:26:58.000 tape was one of the more damning pieces of evidence put forward by the prosecution

02:27:01.440 yet the most damning were the 116 text messages between her and her boyfriend in the six hours

02:27:06.160 leading up to the murder they thought using burner phones to communicate would cover their tracks

02:27:09.840 yet forensics were able to uncover the entire discussion just one month after the incident they spoke

02:27:14.160 in detail about how the crime would be carried out and it was enough to convict them both as well

02:27:18.160 as each of the intruders who were linked to the crime via dna evidence and witness testimony they

02:27:22.400 were all found guilty of first-degree murder and given a life sentence without the possibility of

02:27:26.320 parole for 25 years jennifer pan is now 34 years of age she is currently serving her

02:27:30.960 sentence at the grand valley institution for women in kitchener ontario she will be first eligible for

02:27:35.760 parole in november of 2035 okay so that was three years ago l female man l daughter l female uh let's

02:27:45.760 hit the chats and close this thing out man yo this that that case is crazy you hired three dudes pretty

02:27:50.720 much to come in and kill your parents man just because you didn't want you to be with a loser pizza 0.99

02:27:54.800 delivery man that fucking sells drugs named wong like come on man i guess you didn't know wong and right 0.97

02:28:01.760 all right uh that was a w joke bro yeah

02:28:08.640 what do we got here all right we got um huelges maximus martin's right about that curry funk i once 1.00

02:28:17.280 had to drive a corolla to pick up three indian men on 92 degree day for a rental reservation ac only 0.92

02:28:22.080 recirculated the funk so my only option was to speed with the windows open this nigga bro uh hunter goes 1.00

02:28:28.400 good evening from vermont myron have you heard of brian uh no we read that one from before

02:28:32.880 i think he had another one though myron what was your favorite case life series to cover and why

02:28:37.520 i love your concept brother uh i enjoyed the mafia stuff the 9-11 stuff was also interesting as well

02:28:42.240 um uh and i liked um the zodiac killer was really interesting to dig into as well

02:28:48.000 what else do we got here um kuma goes normally i'm a fan but you said the most uh

02:28:54.560 retarded uh retarded shit last night when you were bashing america despite the fact this nation 1.00

02:29:00.160 helped i can't read the rest mo it's right there this nation helped you get rich uh where we at

02:29:07.760 here down down down no there oh yes yes that one okay i'll read it from the beginning okay

02:29:15.280 normally a fan but you said the most retarded last night when you were bashing america despite 0.94

02:29:18.880 the fact this nation helped you get rich a move to a communist china if it sucks here don't act like miami 0.94

02:29:24.160 uh doesn't have problems as well i live there when did i bash the country

02:29:33.040 the fuck are you talking about dude like yo like no one like like 0.98

02:29:43.040 you bash the us i didn't i probably said that because i've said it before i've said that the america

02:29:49.120 has its problems all the first world countries have their problems but the united states is the best house 0.81

02:29:54.000 in a shitty neighborhood so obviously i'll be critical of some of the things that we've done

02:29:58.560 in the united states but i've said a million times that this is the best country in the world gave my

02:30:02.720 family an opportunity i worked for the country i put my life on the line for this fucking country 0.96

02:30:06.480 so i don't know what the fuck you're talking about uma but fuck you and fuck and uh fuck your chat as 1.00

02:30:12.480 well you motherfucker i've never said anything like where i hate the united states or any of that 0.98

02:30:17.360 that a bullshit man what the fuck are you talking about i've served this country proudly for most of 0.93

02:30:21.520 my adult life for over half my life for this but yeah a good portion of my life 10 years i worked for

02:30:27.520 the government so fuck you dude done more for this country than you have asshole i could be critical of 0.99

02:30:31.520 the country but at the end of the day i've said a million times the united states is by far the best

02:30:36.480 house in a shitty neighborhood because yeah a lot of other places suck but we're better than the uk

02:30:40.240 we're better than canada we're better than a lot of these places so fuck you man uh what do we got here 0.97

02:30:45.760 we got hunter uh evening from vermont myron what was your most memorable experience last case to

02:30:52.320 work on when you were fed and why also shout out to mo you're a big inspiration for many people

02:30:57.120 of your size kido brother proud of you looking forward to seeing you shredded um 0.54

02:31:04.000 so my favorite case that i covered guys um i got a couple i had a really big drug case that i covered uh

02:31:10.160 when i was on the job which i will i promise i'll give you all that one here on fedrex one day

02:31:15.440 uh that was like my first organized crime drug enforcement task force case uh there's some

02:31:20.160 racketeering and stuff like that in it as well and then i enjoyed um a case that i did when i was in

02:31:25.600 miami which is that one i did with canada i told you guys about what the sre lankan human smuggling

02:31:29.920 uh that case actually got me uh director the director's award for department of homeland security

02:31:36.720 so uh that was good that was that was a really good time you got fun tracey b but yeah if that

02:31:44.400 guy can tell me when specifically i said anything bashed in the united states i don't know what he's

02:31:49.040 talking about so go ahead and follow up dude if you got something to say but me being critical of

02:31:53.120 the united states and bashed the united states are two different things uh i've said a million times

02:31:57.680 that this is the best country in the world so like bro anyway whatever where we are here tracey b

02:32:03.360 btk is under investigation for a missing person in northeast oklahoma he apparently left notes in

02:32:08.960 his journal about her and a laundromat also love watching all your videos thanks for the great

02:32:13.280 content yes i did hear about btk being re-under investigation for uh someone else that he uh

02:32:18.320 murdered uh if it ends up being anything interesting we'll cover that for y'all uh as you guys know we

02:32:23.520 already did btk uh aka dennis raider uh uh stands for buying torture and kill went crazy in the 1970s

02:32:31.120 killing women out in the wichita kansas area ended up catching him uh later on in like 2004 2005 with

02:32:38.160 dna through his daughter which is fucking crazy yeah it was busted nuts on crime scenes so they uh 0.93

02:32:45.200 had his dna and then they were able to link him through his daughter after she went to the doctor

02:32:49.520 i think she went to like go get an std check or something like that at the clinic at her university

02:32:53.280 at the university of kansas and uh they matched up his dna her dna to his uh from that crime scene

02:32:59.440 back in the 70s and bam they got him bro gotcha him and the golden state killer two killers that

02:33:04.560 got caught like 30 30 years later uh the uh dna wild yeah bro i do believe that we're gonna get

02:33:12.800 more serial killers in the future nah because of the dna oh you mean catch more yeah yeah yeah yeah

02:33:19.040 yeah yeah yeah um yeah because they all went the this heyday for serial killers was like

02:33:23.920 the 60s all the way up into the 90s the 70s was the most by far but uh yeah yeah they went crazy

02:33:31.040 but uh yeah that was that was that was their grand time bro i mean if you think about it dude

02:33:37.200 john wayne gacy ted bundy the 44 killer aka the son of sam um richway gary ridgeway the zodiac killer

02:33:47.040 the golden state killer the golden state killer um man ed camper uh little uh samuel little ed

02:33:54.320 camper um who else jesus you got i got i got so far eight already um there's more there's more i

02:34:03.600 had a whole encyclopedia i know but i'm thinking of the 1970s yeah only 1970 the torso killer that's

02:34:10.000 nine we haven't covered him yet but i will cover him for y'all when was jack the ripper oh that was

02:34:14.320 1800 that was a long time ago that was yeah um that's nine oh uh btk he was going around in the

02:34:21.040 70s that's 10 right there yeah 10 bro the united states in 1970s was crazy all the top serial killers

02:34:28.720 were killing people in the 1970s could you imagine and the mafia was going wild too don't mind don't

02:34:35.360 forget that lakosa notion was at the height of their power at this point yeah so the 1970s oh man

02:34:42.960 charles manson too charles manson was going crazy in the 70s bro what a dark era john wayne gacy and

02:34:50.640 you had like the worst president office inflation was at its highest you had freaking uh richard

02:34:55.120 nixon and you had uh jimmy carter in office watergate scandal bro holy jim jones we're gonna cover jim

02:35:01.680 jones you guys that was also in the 70s yo shout out to antonio one three six four two yo shout out to

02:35:07.120 you my friend i'll put it up i'll put it up 16 year old border patrol agent 10 years landlord wife

02:35:12.640 is ofo and we sit here together and watch this like it's a family night after the kids go to bed

02:35:17.520 lol sonny love him he goes yo thank you so much bro yeah shout out to the blue line man his uh wife

02:35:22.080 works for the cbofo guys his office of field operations customs and border protection and um

02:35:27.520 obviously border patrol shout out to y'all man i worked very very closely with border patrol

02:35:32.400 and ofo when i was on the job uh i was in a human smuggling group so anytime they caught anything

02:35:38.080 uh border patrol they'd call us shout out to you antonio yeah shout out to you bro i really

02:35:42.160 appreciate that thank you for supporting us and supporting rumble uh the platform for free speech

02:35:47.600 my friend and thank you for your service shout out to all the border patrol agents it's a very difficult

02:35:51.600 job man very very difficult job uh being out there in the brush laying in uh you know chasing after

02:36:00.240 a bunch of migrants because it'll be like a group of 30 of them when you arrest them it's like yo 1.00

02:36:04.480 and it's very dangerous out there because a lot of times you're out there by yourself sometimes or

02:36:08.000 you're out there with limited backup um and it's out there in the middle of nowhere man so they work

02:36:12.160 a very dangerous dangerous job very dangerous job so uh shout out to all the bp agents out there man um

02:36:18.720 and they make good money too man it's a good it's a fantastic career to start with um a little dirty

02:36:23.680 secret for y'all border patrol agents can easily make more than special agents easily yeah so customs and

02:36:29.440 border protection uh of fo as well because um you get night differential with cbp of fo you get

02:36:35.360 overtime um you get the um weekend pay holiday pay all that stuff um as a as a special agent that you

02:36:44.400 really don't get those things because you get leap law enforcement availability pay which is already

02:36:48.320 built in 25 into your salary as a bp agent or of fo uh you get all those extra things when you work

02:36:54.160 shifts because you don't work shifts when you do uh when you're a special agent whether it's fbi dea

02:36:59.280 whatever so you can easily like rack in a dough working for these other agencies uh of fo and

02:37:04.880 border patrol you know so that's pretty good yeah the thing is is that they're not investigators so

02:37:11.600 they have like their intel people and stuff like that but they don't actually do like the chrome

02:37:14.480 investigations so but you can actually make quite a bit of money doing uh the uniform side uh yeah yeah

02:37:21.680 no one talks about that but they can absolutely make more bro uh tape on it's more hours but yeah tape

02:37:27.760 punk from stream labs uh tape punk goes if jennifer pan ever release it with uh which is 2035 this

02:37:33.520 washer position will be available all right shout out to you toe punk you're gonna hire her bro she 1.00

02:37:37.280 might kill you too uh or hire some sholakas to kill you uh hunter choy goes uh marin not to get you in 0.88

02:37:43.920 trouble here but is the best way to commit murder using the sharp icicle since it melts would they still 0.90

02:37:49.440 be able to collect dna and no i'm not a serial killer just general uh generally curious what is

02:37:53.440 it fbi open up i guess if a sharp icicle will he's saying if you stab someone the sharp icicle

02:38:00.080 because it'll melt i don't know what that is a sharp icicle like ice that's sharp oh okay okay yeah

02:38:05.360 uh i guess but just make sure you don't have a phone on you like dumb ass wine w melly 0.84

02:38:10.080 you know i mean that's that's how they're catching so many people man that geolocation data

02:38:13.200 be be cat pull people at the crime scenes uh but don't kill anybody bro please yeah don't kill

02:38:19.040 people he might don't do it stop killing people yeah he's in vermont so who knows oh he's yeah

02:38:24.720 he probably lurking in the woods right now at a camp unsuspecting people okay i'm watching fed

02:38:30.880 racks okay i got this icicle can i do this oh okay nice i can do it just oh damn it i got the phone

02:38:35.520 fuck man he's gonna be now you know right now i know what to do yeah yeah all right are we ready 0.92

02:38:43.680 uh what else do we got here we have and big up again antonio

02:38:50.320 up uh nsa goes jennifer pan nah jennifer ran from accountability wire and bless me with that

02:38:55.760 beautiful rumble mod badge shout out to you uh nsa uh yeah we'll give you a mod badge uh puffy

02:39:01.520 wuffy goes we'll be getting a mexico cartel breakdown soon also w frederick's y'all blessing

02:39:05.440 us with the content yes i will uh mexico cartels and the columbia cartels that's going to be a

02:39:09.360 series guys so as you guys know with the mafia we did a whole series so i uh that's going to take

02:39:15.280 time because i'm going to have to do it all the way i'm going to do chapo then i'm going to do

02:39:18.560 you know the zetas and then sinaloa like yeah it's going to be it's going to be trying to get off 0.98

02:39:24.720 some cases off the list because yeah because once i go into like a a series like that whether it's

02:39:30.160 9-11 or italian mafia y'all are going to hear it for a month yeah all right what else do we got

02:39:34.320 here um do you see tori's mugshot free tori yeah man sucks with tori lanes what's going on with him 0.88

02:39:41.600 does angie ever get harassed at her job um well in my old job the girls didn't like me because i 1.00

02:39:49.840 sometimes i will wear the fresher fit shirt yeah she was a hostess um at two spots no i was a hostess

02:39:58.400 at a nightclub but then i left and then i was working as a hookah girl at a bar um well it was

02:40:05.520 a restaurant sports bar spoil blonde you guys know yeah i went there um and um the girls didn't like 1.00

02:40:12.960 me there was also a girl that dated myron and she hated him of course and she hated that was easy i

02:40:19.600 don't know why i just asked her to come on the show and she was like all pissed myron gains

02:40:24.960 fuck him you didn't tell him to fuck him and i was like all right and then now you're waitressing and 1.00

02:40:34.400 now yeah i'm working as a servant um an american social yeah there you go and there is a guy that

02:40:40.320 they're trying to say you're a bartender the fucking haters i know i don't know it's hard to bartend yeah 0.88

02:40:45.280 you know she's a waitress guys serve well server whatever yeah um it's pretty cool i really like

02:40:50.400 my job it's pretty fun um there was a guy that actually recognized me um once he said he was a

02:40:55.360 big fan of myron he was flipping he was like angie gains and i was like oh my god no stop don't call

02:41:00.800 me now now they know where you work so they're gonna be there yeah so leave her a tip guys helps me

02:41:05.680 out so i gotta pay as much i'm just kidding i've got a supporter no that's what you sound like right

02:41:11.760 now uh let me move on i mean hey man she wants to work so you know angie's not lazy so it is what 0.99

02:41:21.600 it is i was told her she didn't have to but she wants to so it is what it is man uh so hunter hunter

02:41:28.240 goes uh myron by the way dad has 280 acres of land with four uh wheeler trails and hunting uh oh

02:41:37.040 shit uh i got it hunting shacks oh hunting shacks etc very peaceful here if you ever wanted to go 0.84

02:41:43.840 hunting you're more than welcome to have a deer camp as well uh if she goes south in the u.s i can

02:41:48.480 live off deer fair enough my friend live off the land uh what else do we got here uh she like foe you

02:41:55.520 detective you don't know me for you detective you don't know me yo got you uh johnny sovereign

02:42:01.920 she again korean barbecued in there you mean vietnamese barbecued louie lock goes first ever

02:42:08.160 rant sending support from the bay area working every day to be that guy to not female fuckery w 0.99

02:42:13.200 fresher fit w mo w myron's girl shout out to you louie lock i appreciate that johnny sovereign goes

02:42:18.320 the other suspect's name something wong holy f**k bing bang bing ow white light to ma 0.84

02:42:26.560 white light too much yeah you guys are f**king hilarious i should have known that the asian 1.00

02:42:30.800 jokes are going to be coming in full-fledged with this day was going crazy tonight yeah man uh

02:42:36.400 fnf should start an only fans and put the most uncensored videos on it then put um uh uh

02:42:43.360 more than meets the eye oh okay and when they get banned accuse only fans of more than meets the

02:42:48.800 eye phobia oh to force them into allowing you all nah man we ain't never gonna be on only fans

02:42:55.440 we've got a million offers but nah man holy shit from doge poster those

02:42:59.600 shit poster uh again damn you mongolians stop breaking my shitty wall oh my god bro you 1.00

02:43:05.600 why you just you just finished west south park i guess the sketch artist did her 30 yo with the

02:43:09.760 big ass forehead okay uh color goes quasimodo hunchback looking ass in that drawing okay 0.83

02:43:18.320 i knew that was going to go in bro oh my god uh what's better to make for the food stream

02:43:26.240 to fail legume tamales or arepas uh i think sandwiches or arepas man definitely legume but

02:43:32.880 i gotta represent for my peoples you know what i'm saying legume no that's oh that's haitian food

02:43:37.040 yeah that's haitian food we'll make arepas bro bro we gotta we gotta make we gotta make legume

02:43:42.000 wait y'all niggas got food oh i thought you guys i thought your your cuisine would be like a hot 0.98

02:43:48.160 bowl of nothing i don't know what well we are on youtube i probably shouldn't have made that joke

02:43:57.840 here can we elevate her yet no we can't oh yeah we can't let our fat reacts damn well 1.00

02:44:05.280 well the racism is so bad like i didn't even like i just just thought i was like damn okay

02:44:17.600 oh well guys we get canceled

02:44:22.640 it was good knowing y'all that was so funny though yeah oh my god no

02:44:27.040 not even mo is laughing yeah well 0.97

02:44:33.680 he likes racism only when it's not towards haiti 0.99

02:44:36.240 hold on wait wait wait wait wait hold on wait a minute

02:44:40.000 you're right yeah all right what else do we got here

02:44:44.000 if you made that joke to it i swear i would have laughed too uh the sketch artist was a diversity

02:44:48.320 higher okay i would never like venice will indeed my people too uh i got in-laws over there

02:44:54.720 uh i'm worried about the u.s too but marin is right what are the beacons of freedom here it is

02:44:59.920 at risk but we are the best in the world i still serve it shout out to you antonio yeah absolutely

02:45:04.720 bro we're still the best best uh best country uh and thank you again uh antonio i'll give you

02:45:14.480 maximus goes i'm with big ma on this one haitian food is legit but watch just watch the carbs okay

02:45:18.320 y'all do got a cuisine all right oh god it's a hot bowl of nothing we got one of the best cuisines

02:45:23.200 in the world i gotta i gotta represent from our people in haiti you know what i'm saying

02:45:26.880 that's why i'm also fat turkey tossing that yeah that that's exactly what i'd be talking

02:45:30.400 yo i guess it is good yeah yo people would be like yo mo how how did you get so damn big in 0.53

02:45:35.520 the first place the first time they're like yo haitian food is very extremely delicious bro on

02:45:40.880 god bro i was just telling angie that the other day

02:45:44.960 fair on god uh what's the last one here the last one uh if it's 304 is getting murdered they're

02:45:50.080 gonna have the whole task force to try to identify all the dna they got inside them oh my god bro 1.00

02:45:54.480 this guy uh and then would y'all ever cover chicago town now murders has that come across your list

02:46:02.640 wait chicago yes yes chicago town now murders yes you guys keep asking for that yes we we should cover

02:46:08.000 them okay um cool guys uh this one was a short and sweet one uh i hope you guys enjoyed it uh mo you

02:46:14.720 got anything for the people angie before we close out there there are some more other um chats i

02:46:20.400 think oh there are yeah we're like super i just came in okay like rumble i think guys it's honestly

02:46:26.880 a blessing that y'all support us so much man thank you so much like i said i've always said it you guys

02:46:30.720 don't have to donate a dollar um which you guys do and you don't have to and i really appreciate that

02:46:35.840 especially after us getting demonetized so you know whether you uh you know the real way to help

02:46:40.240 the best way to help is castleclub.tv and uh super chatting in uh and you guys are doing that

02:46:45.840 so thank you so much uh marion do you encourage angie to carry a firearm yes no i do um once we get her

02:46:52.000 uh situation squared we're gonna yeah she's gonna have to carry a gun no i don't want to carry 1.00

02:46:57.680 because she feels very uncomfortable when she's not with me and i get the people harass her and

02:47:01.680 shit so yeah and she's small so uh so yeah she's absolutely gonna carry a gun whether she likes it or 1.00

02:47:07.520 not in the future once we get her you know she's we got to situate her stuff i don't want to have

02:47:13.280 a gun but i have my taster that's not enough i ain't enough that's not enough angie you like 100

02:47:18.640 pounds bro uh 111 see uh okay where we are here oh no uh no the sketch artist didn't do her wrong

02:47:27.600 genetics did i prefer latinas and asians but when they look like her no thank you she didn't even 1.00

02:47:32.160 get she didn't she didn't even have a prime damn yeah i'm hitting though lion lion uh definitely 0.56

02:47:38.320 fucks up your um your look wendy goes i'm surprised marion is wearing something other than fresh fit 1.00

02:47:43.840 merch did angie start picking your outfits yes did you buy me this yes man throw it away

02:47:51.520 well i went to the gym earlier and i was and i didn't change yeah uh dr dirgen digital dirt cookies

02:47:58.880 appreciate that uh and then looks like that's it uh uh fuck you talking about said carry a knife 0.89

02:48:05.920 you're a woman you can you can get close that's true man but guys i think i'll be i'll be corny

02:48:11.200 clenny yeah boy corny clenny is the fucking dumbest criminal ever yo you know she told the detectives 1.00

02:48:20.400 this is the only fans bitch yeah yo this is what she said so her boyfriend right the one that she 1.00

02:48:25.680 stabbed is right up the street mo you know what i'm talking about right the only fans

02:48:28.800 model that stabbed her boyfriend yeah that killed it the blondie the title bitch right yeah so she 1.00

02:48:32.960 told the police bro and we covered this on her thing guys go watch it on uh on fed reacts on youtube

02:48:38.160 um she uh time stamps are there and everything that was like a longer broadcast it was one of my

02:48:42.000 favorite ones we did though it was so she said that she uh that she threw the knife at him yeah and it

02:48:47.920 just happened to land here in his artery and kill him yeah and bro even uh mlb pitcher wouldn't have

02:48:55.680 been able to throw a knife with that level of force where it punctured him as deep as it did

02:49:00.320 she tried to say she threw it no oh i just like kind of flung it like this is what she told the

02:49:04.240 detective who she thinks she's scorpion she's an idiot dude and then when they actually like looked 1.00

02:49:08.160 at the the um when they did the autopsy they saw they saw that the knife was like four inches in

02:49:12.880 yeah that's how i was able to pierce their artery and eat blood to death she literally when she was 1.00

02:49:16.880 being interrogated she literally was like yeah that's what she did with the miami detectives

02:49:22.160 it's on the video fucking idiot bro these female murderers be the worst bro they be capping 1.00

02:49:28.400 they be trying to yo not the cat they be doing their delusion with the with like the crime like

02:49:34.240 casey anthony jody arias like watch those episodes guys with these females and you guys are

02:49:38.720 gonna laugh at like the shit they say during the interviews it's literally hilarious like

02:49:42.640 they're way more delusional than the male criminals like the male criminals are like

02:49:46.240 either they don't talk or if they do confess they're like all right this is kind of what i

02:49:49.840 did all about but they never say some whack shit like oh yeah i just like flung the knife like this 0.77

02:49:53.920 and it just so happened to fucking stab him and be like four inches in crazy dude crazy i've been 0.97

02:49:59.360 watching i remember who was it was it jody arias or was it the the um suitcase chick i literally 0.96

02:50:03.840 screamed at the tv during the show i was like ah like ah yeah yeah like what the hell

02:50:07.360 it was a suitcase girl right bro what's that episode guys um um the suitcase girl that like

02:50:15.040 killed her boyfriend by locking him in a suitcase bro one of the most delusional girls ever i felt 1.00

02:50:21.040 like i was doing a fresh rip pond the only problem is that i wasn't in control now i felt i feel how

02:50:25.600 you niggas feel when you watch the show like you guys are just screaming at your tv like ah you know like 0.96

02:50:32.080 what the fuck man and the girls in the bts in the back they they were just doing that the other 1.00

02:50:37.280 day oh they were you know audrey and abby they're like oh my god i wouldn't just i used to be getting

02:50:44.240 mad too that's why i don't like being here for free anymore it's just so frustrating so frustrating yeah

02:50:50.720 bro not now y'all know how it's like being being a man dealing with women bro i got to see what it was

02:50:57.920 like being the viewer for a second i'm like the detective like ah how do you like deal with this

02:51:03.040 man all right uh those uh ship poster goes asian girls have horizontal pussies to match their eyes 1.00

02:51:11.680 okay you guys on rumble got no chill man she's hilarious uh then we got big mo if restaurant 0.98

02:51:17.840 decided to make a sandwich based on your name what will your ingredients of choice be your ingredients

02:51:22.720 of choice whoa hmm i'd probably say like maybe uh the turkey tassel as like the meat and

02:51:31.680 and um and a venezuelan arepa like yeah yeah better than the colombian one i actually actually like

02:51:39.600 the secret i actually like venezuelan that but it's a lot better oh gotcha colombian arepas are

02:51:44.800 not really arepas man you should know this by now i don't know oh here arepas they're disgusting either

02:51:48.960 way hey uh what is it fried bread or something no man this is it's not

02:52:03.600 man mari let's keep going they might they my peoples too man they they they my people

02:52:08.000 you say i got i got in-laws out there you say that because you haven't tried proper repas every

02:52:13.200 time i try to make this man arepas he's always like no too many carbs i mean he's right but there's a lot

02:52:18.800 of carbs though i can make arepas with oatmeal and they're amazing yeah low-calorie oatmeal um

02:52:28.400 flour healthier repas fitness repas yeah as long as it's not fried

02:52:34.320 arepas can be fried or like all the rip has ever seen are all fried air fried no

02:52:39.600 can they ever can you know what kind of what i've seen what what kind of arepas are you guys eating really

02:52:45.280 arepas are like a great breakfast and dinner this does shit poster guy just keeps saying racist

02:52:52.400 shit it's funny i ate a japanese girl out in tokyo her pussy tasted like sushi uh all right 1.00

02:52:58.160 you got some protein in uh those poster we have those here in the future of 27 7 give a whole other

02:53:03.680 angle to hitting it all right he's still he's still this one is he's still referencing the cyberpunk video

02:53:09.440 game 2077 okay okay um all right are we caught up mo yeah it looks like that's guys i hope you guys

02:53:15.200 enjoyed this episode man we'll be back tomorrow for a call-in show on friday um where we'll you're

02:53:21.360 going to give you all some sauce man and you guys can call in and hate or ask questions or whatever

02:53:25.040 maybe i really do enjoy those call-in shows where i get to like to actually talk to y'all and uh we'll be

02:53:29.600 back at 6 p.m tomorrow guys um follow fed reacts on instagram on angie manages as you guys know

02:53:35.680 yes um i'll make a poll for you guys for sunday because you guys drop a lot of um oh yeah we need

02:53:41.360 something for sunday yes uh that you guys drop a lot of uh cases but i think we should do alcatraz um

02:53:47.680 the escape prison the prison script alcatraz prison escape yeah there's been a bunch of them though the

02:53:52.640 the one in the 1920s or when uh 1920s no i think this is the last one okay all right well i'll

02:53:59.760 look into it but guys we'll be back tomorrow for fresher fit and we'll catch you guys on the next

02:54:03.520 episode of fed reacts on sunday and then we got uh fresh fit tomorrow at 6 p.m love you guys thank you

02:54:08.400 so much for the support shout big special shout out to antonio

02:54:15.360 shout out to whole dhs uh the guys that are keeping us safe for real from all the

02:54:18.880 the bullshit and we'll catch you guys on the next episode peace 0.87

02:54:24.480 our special agent with homelands investigations okay guys hsi this is what fed reacts congress

02:54:28.880 defender jeffrey williams and associate ysl did commit the felony

The Debrief With MyronGainesX - September 22, 2023

Fed Explains The Infamous Case Of Jennifer Pan

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