Karen Reed is facing a retrial for the murder of her boyfriend, a former Boston Police Officer, John O'Keefe. She claims that he was murdered in her care, but the prosecution argues that it was premeditated murder.
02:21:52.440I was trying to be as helpful as I could and get the information to the most important information out as quick as I could to the 911 operators.
02:22:06.980But also the scene there with Karen and.
02:22:12.020OK, so sorry, guys, let me clarify this shit.
02:22:15.120So basically, right, the prosecution needs it to be at 6 a.m., right?
02:22:22.200Because for it to be at 6 a.m., because McCabe, this chick right here, right, this chick right here, it was on her phone, right?
02:22:34.080The search was on her phone, how long to die in the cold?
02:22:36.360And the prosecution, and she's a prosecution witness, so they need it to be at 6.23 a.m.
02:22:40.780so that they can say, look, this was after they discovered his body, that she searched this to see how long he had been there.
02:22:46.440But the defense is saying that at 2.22 a.m. that she did the search because they had beat him in the house and then left him for death in the cold.
02:23:27.800Because the prosecutor is saying that she rightfully searched how long it takes to die in the cold after finding McCabe's body at around 6 o'clock.
02:23:34.100And then the defense is saying, no, she knew that he was dying at around 2 o'clock because they had whooped his ass before and threw him outside of the house.
02:23:54.940And she's one of the main witnesses for the government or, well, the state.
02:23:58.640Operators, but also the scene there with Karen and Carrie was a bit chaotic between the two of them.
02:24:09.640So I was just trying my best to be as calm as I could to get help there as fast as I could and to answer their questions the best that I could.
02:24:19.440Before you told the 911 operator, John O'Keefe's name and his age, you said there's a man in the snow.
02:24:28.980Do you know why you chose those words?
02:24:31.040I think I just wanted to get out the most specific details.
02:24:35.520So a man in the snow versus, you know, John O'Keefe and into a story.
02:24:47.520Any point during the time when you tried to help Mr. O'Keefe and the first police officer arrived at any point, did you see any signs of life from Mr. O'Keefe?
02:25:13.580Karen's just running around crazy, like just yelling, screaming, kind of like a ping pong.
02:25:22.260One of the offices thought it would be best if maybe she went and just sat in one of the cruises for a little bit because she was just doing a lot of screaming and yelling.
02:25:31.220And I think they were just trying to, you know, get, you know, work on John and make the scene a little less chaotic.
02:25:38.400She started yelling and pulling on me to Google hypothermia and Google how long it takes for somebody, you know, to die in the cold.
02:25:46.860Was this the first time that morning after the defendant asked you to search that you searched that phrase?
02:26:54.480Neither one of you, your good friend Kerry Roberts and you, have ever discussed either of your testimonies between that time and this time?
02:27:04.360No, we've discussed the case and we've discussed what happened to that moment, the moments of the morning, but we have not discussed testimony.
02:27:15.700As you said, that's your story, correct?
02:28:58.120I think the first one was fairly quick.
02:29:00.380The second one, you know, one of them was a little bit longer, maybe a couple hours.
02:29:04.060You were contacted by another law enforcement agency that was not Massachusetts State Police and not Canton Police Department at one point in April of 2023.
02:29:25.360During the course of that interview, those officers informed you very specifically, Ms. McCabe, that it is a crime to lie to them, even during an interview, correct?
02:29:38.880One of the first calls you made after being contacted by these other law enforcement officers from a different agency, one of the first calls you made was to Carrie Roberts.
02:30:01.540Your motive in calling Carrie Roberts at that moment before your interview was to ensure that your story would line up with her story, Ms. McCabe.
02:31:36.700McRae Jackson scrutinized her evolving statements and phone calls and texts.
02:31:40.640She adamantly defended herself and any of her actions.
02:31:45.060Meanwhile, forensic scientist Hannah Knowles testified that retrograde analysis estimated Reed's blood alcohol content was between 0.14% and 0.28% around 12.45 a.m.
02:31:57.060Well over Massachusetts legal limit of 0.08%.
02:32:01.680You're aware that your phone records actually show that at 5.07, you called the 34 Fairview, Nicole Alberts, correct?
02:36:07.300You knew that Brian Albert wasn't in peril.
02:36:09.480You weren't worried at all about them, were you?
02:36:12.580I was not worried at all because something happened on the front lawn that had nothing to do with anything inside that house.
02:36:21.640And just so you guys know, the reason why she's covering for them so hard is because her brother-in-law, okay, Brian Albert, the cop, he's the one that owned that house at 34 Fairview.
02:36:33.640You weren't worried about them at all because you knew what really happened.
02:36:40.700At that moment, I didn't know that he was hit by a vehicle and there was taillight found next to him.
02:37:19.240They got her on the stand multiple days.
02:37:20.900And she proceeded to say that she had a cracked taillight.
02:37:24.920With no video or eyewitnesses, the first trial turned into a battle of the experts.
02:37:31.160The vehicle traveled up to 24 miles per hour in approximately half on the morning of the 20th.
02:37:36.680Lead investigator, Trent Brennan, plans to introduce new evidence, including molds made by SUVs, and possibly the defendant taking the stand.
02:37:48.640And you also mentioned to the media that.
02:37:51.560OK, I was just fast forwarding through that stuff.
02:38:16.940And today we're diving into week three, where evidence got colder, but the courtroom heat kicked up a notch.
02:38:23.460This week, forensic analysis, first responder testimony, digital footprints, and questions about law enforcement integrity all collided in the courtroom.
02:38:35.400Ryan Nagel and Heather Maxson, who were at the Alberts' home to pick up Nagel's sister, testified that they saw a woman in a black SUV outside the Albert home.
02:38:44.280Maxson recalled seeing a man in the passenger seat briefly, but by the time they drove away, only the woman remained.
02:38:52.360The jury also heard from Sarah Levinson, an Albert party guest, who confirmed she left with the McCaves at around 1.30 a.m.
02:38:59.820and saw no sign of O'Keefe in the yard.
02:39:02.440EMT Katie McLaughlin recounted her brief but disturbing interaction with Karen.
02:39:07.080Just so you guys know, the other law enforcement agency that came to talk to McCabe was the FBI.
02:39:11.020Basically, what happened was McCabe admitted to lying to the FBI about who she was and phone calls she made when agents approached her in April 2023.
02:39:22.760That's who they were referring to when they said the other law enforcement agency.
02:39:25.440...that Reed kept repeating, I hit him, I hit him, when first responders arrived.
02:39:30.360Retired Canton Police Lieutenant Paul Gallagher detailed how investigators used a leaf blower to uncover blood and broken glass buried beneath the snow, raising eyebrows and questions about protocol.
02:39:43.720A broken cocktail glass was found nearby and red Solo cups were used to collect samples.
02:39:49.320Witnesses placed Reed at the scene and conflicting accounts of the night at 34 Fairview Road continued to mount.
02:39:58.240Good Samaritan uses serum or plasma testing as opposed to whole blood testing.
02:40:18.420And just so you guys know, like every state has like big labs like this where they do tests on drugs or toxicology, etc.
02:40:26.860Firearms, ballistics, almost every state has one of these things.
02:40:30.700So it's very common for someone from, you know, the Massachusetts State Police, Connecticut State Police, you know, any of these state police agencies,
02:40:36.260because they typically have big crime labs that they use, every big, every state police has a crime lab in the United States pretty much.
02:40:44.260So that the locals and the counties can go ahead and rely upon that state, that state police lab to get the information they need.
02:40:52.120I'm not familiar with their specific technique or methodology.
02:40:56.340I haven't undergone training for their methods, but it is my understanding that this type of sample used for their method is serum or plasma.
02:41:04.980Would somebody's age be a factor in determining the amount of water in their blood?
02:42:00.880As you were parked at the driveway the entire time, that generally five minute time, did you ever see anybody get out of the SUV and walk down the street towards the driveway?
02:51:02.320The soil was frozen and the surface of the ground was frozen.
02:51:09.660And it would have made the ground impenetrable.
02:51:12.820All right, now we got a trooper in from the state police.
02:51:22.620Trooper Guarino, did you have an opportunity to obtain phone calls, voice messages, and text messages from the defendant to Mr. O'Keefe's phone on the evening of January 29, 2022?
02:53:08.640The day ended with Jessica Hyde, a digital forensics expert, who focused on the timing of a crucial search by Jennifer McCabe.
02:53:17.480She testified that the search term, how long to die in the cold, was entered at 6.24 a.m. on a browser tab that had been opened at 2.27 a.m.
02:53:27.180This supported the prosecution's timeline.
02:53:29.700The search occurred after John O'Keefe's body was found.
02:53:38.640What was your role, limited role, that night?
02:53:46.540To process any evidence that was discovered during the search.
02:54:08.620Having reviewed that report, does that refresh your memory as to whether or not you participated in an interview of Sarah Levinson with Michael Proctor on October 21 of 2022?
02:54:19.480Yes, I don't recall the specifics, but...
02:54:22.060So when you say yes, is it your current testimony that your memory is refreshed that you were actually there?
02:54:30.220The two of you would have participated in that interview...
02:54:33.380And this is common, guys, because obviously you're trying to recall things from years ago, so it's very common for either the defense or the prosecution to provide you with, you know, a report to remind you of something that may have happened.
02:54:56.700Were you asked by the Norfolk County District Attorney's Office to look at and analyze a phone that was related to a person by the name of Jennifer McCabe?
02:55:15.600Yes, with a very, very specific scope to a specific date range.
02:55:19.140Were you asked during that scope and date range to analyze it and provide an opinion about whether there were any user-initiated deletions of any web searches or Safari-type searches?
02:55:32.720Yes, I was asked for deletions of Safari searches within the scope of the time frame that was dictated by the purpose of the exam.
02:55:41.800Were you asked to look at the phone device and determine whether or not there were any user-initiated deletions of phone calls on the device?
02:55:50.700Yes, I was asked to look for deletions of phone calls in that same date range.
02:55:54.780I mentioned or I asked you about using multiple tools and whether or not the use of different tools changes the actual underlying data.
02:56:03.080So the actual underlying data is always maintained, and we do validate that.
02:56:08.220And all of the tools I use in this instance are tools that do not change the underlying data.
02:56:12.340An examiner who has not dug into the artifact and tested to see what it means may assume, erroneously, that that 227 timestamp is the time that what is there is searched.
02:56:25.920The search in that field of that artifact is going to always be the most recent search in the tab,
02:56:33.040but that timestamp actually means either the time that that tab was backgrounded or if it's the first time the tab's been opened, when it was opened.
02:56:42.480So you could erroneously implicate a search was done hours or some time period or even days before it actually occurred.
02:56:53.440Some of us leave our tabs open forever.
02:56:56.520In this case, this phone, was it on non-private or private?
02:57:00.580So the specifically the two searches we're talking about, how long to die in cold and how long to die in C-I-K-L-D, excuse my differentiation there.
02:57:12.480Both of those searches were done in non-private browsing.
02:57:17.460Was there any applications on to mask those searches?
02:57:23.160Not to the best of my knowledge. I did not see any.
02:57:25.820You shared that you have an opinion about whether that timestamp 227.40 was, whether or not that was the time, the search, how long to die in the cold.
02:57:37.880Man, we're really getting in weeds in this shit.
02:57:39.660Can you tell us, to a reasonable degree of scientific certainty, your opinion about whether that search, how long to die in the cold, occurred at 227.40 a.m. on January 29, 2022?
02:57:53.140What I can state, to a scientific degree of certainty, is that that search occurred at 6.24 a.m.
02:58:05.780and was the last search in the tab that had been opened at 227.
02:58:11.400Hmm. Interesting. Very, very interesting.
02:58:16.580And was the last search in the tab that had been opened at 227.
02:58:23.480Just ensuring that I have the question correct.
03:01:37.440Now when they say the house wasn't searched, obviously, like, basically what they're trying to say, guys, is, you know, they never paid attention to the house.
03:01:44.120And then McCabe, right, when they found O'Keefe's body, she didn't bother to go knock on a door.
03:01:53.780Why wouldn't you go ahead and tell your brother-in-law and your sister, who's married to your brother-in-law, hey, just so you know, like, John's body's out here.
03:02:09.660Which, you know, that is a fair point.
03:02:11.160You would think, like, if you see a dead body of your friend on your sister's lawn, you would knock on a door and be like, yo, John's body's here.
03:02:25.840Created and O'Keefe's clothing sat unsecured for days.
03:02:30.160Buchanik insisted the case was handled with honor, but admitted he didn't know who bagged critical evidence and that major reports weren't filed for over a year.
03:02:40.200On the day or the morning of January 29, 2022, do you know who was assigned to take calls for new cases?
03:05:03.600There were a series of cuts and bruises.
03:05:09.200And this is where the dog expert believes that he was attacked by a dog when she came in, which, you know, you can, I guess you can see the scratching.
03:05:17.020To the right arm, which extended from approximately mid forearm up to the mid tricep area.
03:05:29.440There was also a bruise on that same arm on the back of the hand.
03:06:14.620The investigation was done with honor, integrity, and all the evidence pointed in one direction, one direction only.
03:06:20.580And did you state to them that there was a possibility that the decedent, John O'Keefe, was struck in the face with a cocktail glass?
03:06:31.920I don't recall my words exactly, but that sounds accurate to what I might have said.
03:06:38.820What steps did you take to, at that moment, to determine whether or not anybody in the house could have been involved in that possible physical altercation that you just described?
03:06:52.140We interviewed the homeowner and two witnesses that were in that house.
03:06:59.180With each day, the trial becomes a battleground of timelines, technology, and trust.
03:07:07.760From evidence found beneath the snow to angry voicemails and the digital search history that could shift everything,
03:07:13.960this case is as much about what happened as it is about who to believe.
03:07:18.760As the testimony deepens, so do the questions.
03:07:21.800Was this a tragic accident or something more sinister?
03:08:28.620Surveillance footage showed both Reed and Higgins at Canton PD in the early morning after O'Keefe's death.
03:08:35.240The defense suggested Higgins may have had a reason to confront O'Keefe.
03:08:39.300Lastly, the topic of the patient's text between week.
03:08:42.720Defense Attorney Buchanik remained at the center of testimony this week.
03:08:52.000Defense Attorney Alan Jackson pressed him about an early theory involving a cocktail glass, Reed's I-hit-him comment, and the timeline of when the taillight fragments were found.
03:09:03.180Jurors also heard about flirtatious texts between Reed and ATF agent Brian Higgins.
03:09:47.400On November 2nd, 2010, an investigation and a warrant arrest warrant was obtained in a suspect firing violation of surveillance of a vehicle known, blah, blah, blah.
03:11:45.760So, working off of your, as you put it, your theory, you theorized that there was an impact spot at 34th area, correct?
03:11:54.020Okay, so when I'm looking here, guys, the rumor is, is that this guy, Brian Higgins, he's been applying to fire departments, but no one really knows if he's done with the ATF or not.
03:12:06.880Based on the statement I hit him, I assumed that Mr. O'Keefe was impacted with something.
03:12:15.040The theory would be, why is the cocktail glass broken?
03:12:17.880Because it came into contact with the victim.
03:12:20.080So, that's why my information communicated to them.
03:12:23.800And the reason why he's involved, guys, is because he's friends with these guys.
03:12:27.840Me's office was a possible domestic involving a glass strike to the victim.
03:12:33.880Did that refresh your recollection as to when the items were booked at the crime lab?
03:12:41.720According to this document, yes, there were items booked at the crime lab prior to March 14th.
03:12:48.100In particular, to answer your question, completeness here, in particular, that one item does indicate that the first time the lab received it for processing was March 14th.
03:13:00.400Who submitted all of that evidence to the crime lab?
03:13:03.880You're also aware that Michael Proctor eventually submitted a total of some 46 or so pieces of taillight material that was claimed to have been recovered at 34 Fairview on January.
03:13:18.600I'm sorry, since January 29th, 2022, correct?
03:13:23.080I don't know the total pieces, but we didn't claim to recover it there.
03:13:57.920Myron, are you planning on looking at coverage of lots of people like DUI guy who are extremely well-versed in both this trial and a mistrial?
03:14:02.880There's a lot of information and evidence between this trial and the next, which makes this case extremely fascinating.
03:14:07.620We'd love to see you do a deeper dive.
03:14:27.420That Brian Higgins, on January 29th, January 28th, going into January 29th, 2022, had a, what could be generally referred to as a romantic interest in Ms. Reed?
03:15:52.180Would you consider those text messages as you reviewed them when you received them from Brian Higgins as being flirtatious or romantic in nature?
03:15:59.860I would not categorize them to that extent.
03:16:05.240The totality of, you know, to put a label on the whole thing, my opinion is that she's trying to get revenge.
03:16:49.520The defense pointed to text messages with Reed suggesting a possible confrontation with O'Keefe, but Buchanan said the texts speak for themselves.
03:17:02.200He also explained why key witnesses were interviewed at the McCabe home, citing bad weather and emotional stress, raising defense concerns about witness separation.
03:17:12.960Finally, he confirmed Reed was interviewed at her parents' house with both parents in the room.
03:17:19.520You testified that on direct examination that there was no video from Ring at or around the time 12.36 a.m. when Ms. Reed's SUV returned back to One Meadows.
03:17:47.300Are you aware that after John O'Keefe's cell phone was recovered by Massachusetts State Police, someone at Massachusetts State Police actually opened the Ring app on his cell phone?
03:19:44.180The fact is, Sergeant, you put it in writing, and you liked it. Correct?
03:19:51.660I acknowledge the text message. I never saw the vile term.
03:19:56.420And you'll also agree that this video was taken before any taillight material was ever found at 34 Fairview. Correct?
03:20:08.200I know that the SUV pulled into the garage, the Sally Port, at 535, and we were still on scene at 551, almost 52.
03:20:20.940So, yes, if that's time stamp before, 551 before we left Canton PD, then, yes, taillight pieces had already been found.
03:20:31.360At that point in time, after viewing Mr. O'Keefe's injury...
03:20:34.200And the reason why this is important with the taillight, guys, is because they're trying to say that the taillight stuff was found after the fact and put in the crime scene versus actually being found on the crime scene.
03:20:45.340My impression shifted from him possibly being struck with the glass that was located at the scene where he was found to him being struck by a vehicle.
03:20:58.000Well, due to the abrasions and cuts on his right arm and the amount of force, in my experience, the amount of force one would have to generate to produce the wound to his head.
03:21:16.640And that's the biggest thing. The defense is saying he went inside and got killed in the house, then they threw him outside.
03:21:37.960The prosecution is saying he never went in the house in the first place because she struck him with the car and he died right pretty much there.
03:21:42.920I don't support the police, but do you think they perpetrated a corrupt justice system and that by doing so, they themselves are corrupt, whether knowingly or not?
03:21:57.660It depends on the situation, man. There's dirty cops everywhere, right?
03:22:00.940The majority are not, but yeah, there's always going to be police officers that have abused their power.
03:22:19.540And Brian Albert, guys, if I'm not mistaken, is a detective for Boston Police Department.
03:22:25.120I think he's like in their gang unit or some shit like that.
03:22:27.000And here's the interview, here's the actual, let's take a break from week four real quick and go into the testimony that these cops gave here.
03:22:42.820Albert testified in the first trial that neither.
03:22:44.740Okay, here he is. This is Brian Albert.
03:22:46.080This is the guy that was a detective for Boston Police Department, the homeowner who ended up selling the house after this happened.
03:22:53.340Karen Reed nor John O'Keefe entered his house on the night in question, contradicting the defense's claim that John O'Keefe was assaulted inside the house and his body was staged outside.
03:23:13.940Under cross-examination, Albert acknowledged disposing of his cell phone shortly before receiving a preservation notice, raising concerns about...
03:23:28.360So what's a preservation letter, guys?
03:23:30.180A preservation letter is a letter that you give to, typically you serve it on social media companies or internet service providers.
03:23:36.920Anybody that like, you know, is the custodian of data.
03:23:40.240So like, let's say I want to go ahead and get like cell phone records.
03:23:43.200I would send a preservation letter, or I want to get like a social media profile.
03:23:47.020I'll send a preservation letter to Facebook.
03:23:49.440Hey, I need you guys to preserve this information on this profile because I'm going to write up a search warrant on it.
03:23:55.180And what that does is it allows that company to maintain that data for you until you draft up and get your search warrant because that will take time.
03:24:04.760So you send a preservation order, then you send them the warrant, and then they get you the information that you need to ensure that it doesn't get purged.
03:24:13.320I've never seen it served on an individual, though, but he probably knew a preservation order was coming, so he got rid of his phone beforehand.
03:24:18.840...concerns about potential evidence loss.
03:24:22.220Furthermore, Brian's brother Kevin is an officer in Canton, the agency that began the investigation before state police took over.
03:24:29.580And on the morning when John O'Keefe was found dead on his front lawn, Brian Albert never came outside.
03:24:34.600These factors have intensified scrutiny over Albert's testimony and the events surrounding...
03:24:40.040Yeah, because it just doesn't make sense.
03:24:41.420A guy from your police department is dead on your front lawn, and you never left the house?
03:25:20.340Now, he hasn't testified in this trial yet, but his name is all over this case.
03:25:25.960Which brings us to the first question in our investigation.
03:25:29.900Remember, this is when he testified the first time.
03:25:32.060And of course, it's about Brian Albert.
03:25:33.100What is Brian Albert's connection to this case?
03:25:35.900How is he linked to what happened to John O'Keefe and everything else surrounding the investigation and this trial?
03:25:44.140And this guy, like I said before, if I'm not mistaken, I'm almost certain, he's a Boston Police Department gang task force detective, this dude, Brian Albert.
03:25:53.060Okay, a couple of familiar faces joining me tonight, John DiPietro, host and creator of Road Patrol Live, and Karen Reed supporter Kim Whalen.
03:26:00.900She's also known as Nurse Kim on TikTok.
03:26:06.460I'd like to start by playing, since we didn't hear from him yet, let's listen to Brian Albert here talk about his relationship with John O'Keefe.
03:26:31.360And, you know, I considered him to be somebody that I could hang out with.
03:26:35.980Okay, Kim, obviously his name comes up a lot.
03:26:40.400Him and John O'Keefe, is there any history here that we don't know about, history between these two that would somehow lead down the road where Brian Albert is part of some alleged conspiracy to do harm to John O'Keefe and then frame his girlfriend?
03:29:13.640Joining us, private investigator with more than 20 years of experience, Jason Jensen and psychotherapist and CEO of Life Counseling Solutions, Dr. Janie Lacey.
03:29:20.980To offer their expertise on this really significant issue.
03:30:09.140Well, oftentimes, what's described there is pretty normal, pretty common to rehouse a dog or sell a home.
03:30:15.320But in the context of a case, and that's what this is, it's a trial, where if you're getting rid of things that are relating to a case, that can be characterized as disposing of evidence, which disposal of evidence is consciousness of guilt.
03:30:29.060Now, Dr. Janie Lacey, it's, you know, it's difficult to, I guess, truly understand what's going on.
03:30:54.920Did you become friendly with Mr. Higgins?
03:30:56.560I've become friendly with Mr. Higgins, yes.
03:30:57.880And Brian Higgins has not testified yet in this case, but his name is making its way and weaving its way into some of the testimony in front of this jury, which brings us to the next question in our investigation.
03:39:50.000Receiving a late forensic report from the Commonwealth.
03:39:53.000The report highlights a timing discrepancy between Reed's SUV and O'Keeffe's phone that could disrupt the defense's timeline.
03:40:00.640The defense called it a mid-trial ambush.
03:40:03.320Prosecutors said they just received the data themselves.
03:40:06.300Criminalist Maureen Hartnett returned for cross-examination on evidence handling.
03:40:10.740Then came pivotal testimony from the medical examiner.
03:40:15.100She detailed O'Keeffe's injuries and ruled the cause of death as blunt force trauma plus hypothermia, but left the manner of death undetermined.
03:40:23.420On cross, she admitted the injuries weren't clearly consistent with the car strike, and the head wound could have come from a fall.
03:42:34.320Then on his right posterior arm and forearm, so not exactly on this aspect of the arm, but on the back side of the arm, which would be in the back of the diagram.
03:42:52.900There were multiple abrasions, which I described as ranging from two to three millimeters and up to seven centimeters.
03:43:02.200I noted that there were two bruises on the back of his right hand.
03:44:44.940And when we pulled back the scalp, I noted that there was blood, what we call hemorrhage, under the laceration or associated with the laceration on the back of the right head.
03:44:57.740There were skull fractures associated with that laceration abrasion on the right side of the head.
03:45:09.260So, when the brain was removed and we were able to look at the base of the skull, I noted that there were multiple fractures that appeared to be originating from the...
03:45:23.480Holy shit, they took his brain out, man.
03:45:25.780...area of the laceration or what would correspond to the area of the laceration.
03:45:33.100Inevitably, did you come to a conclusion about the manner and cause of Mr. O'Keefe's death?
03:45:43.360In this case, stated that the cause was blood impact injuries of head and hypothermia and the manner was undetermined.
03:45:50.880There's nothing inconsistent with this injury and a fall on someone's, um, on the back of the head with a blunt, um, surface.
03:46:08.520Week four wrapped up with a short but fiery day 17 that almost led to a delay in proceedings.
03:46:22.400See, you went from narrator to niggerator.
03:46:24.620...heavily on forensics, walking the jury through a detailed breakdown of DNA and physical evidence found at the scene and on John O'Keefe's clothing.
03:46:33.160First, a DNA expert from the Massachusetts State Police Crime Lab testified that multiple bloodstains on O'Keefe's jeans, shirts, and sneakers were overwhelmingly likely to be his.
03:46:44.820But defense attorney David Unetti pushed back, pointing out the DNA mixtures included unknown contributors.
03:46:50.940And that the lab never compared samples to other key names like Brian Albert or Brian Higgins.
03:46:55.760Then came a second expert, a physical match analyst who reconstructed shattered taillight pieces found on Fairview Road.
03:47:03.660Some fragments were matched as part of a single taillight unit, presumably from Karen Reed's Lexus, but others showed no mechanical connection.
03:47:13.240Does she have like a fucking, what kind of bat, is that like a, what flag is that?
03:47:18.180Is that the LGBT flag or like the Tran flag?
03:47:21.600But others showed no mechanical connection.
03:47:24.960Finally, a courtroom fight erupted over expert data.
03:47:29.560The defense accused the Commonwealth of trying to get, quote, three bites at the apple by updating a tech expert's report about vehicle and phone data after the defense had already cross-examined witnesses.
03:47:41.060The judge ultimately ruled the state could move forward, setting the stage for a high-stakes rebuttal.
03:47:46.700All right, DNA analyst, Massachusetts State Police Crime Lab, Andre Porto.
03:47:56.500So the DNA profile was interpreted as a mixture of three contributors, including male DNA.
03:48:05.100And the DNA profile from this item is at least 510 non-alien times more likely if it originated from John O'Keefe and two unknown individuals.
03:48:13.100What did you conclude based on the generation of those profiles with those four items?
03:48:31.700Yeah, so the profiles that were generated were not suitable for a comparison.
03:48:35.480It was a mixture of at least five contributors.
03:48:38.560We can only interpret mixtures of up to four contributors.
03:48:42.220So I determined that there were five contributors.
03:48:44.400So that makes it too complex for us to do comparisons to it.
03:48:46.820Were you ever asked to compare DNA samples from either Canton Police Detective Kevin Albert or Canton Police Chief Kenneth Berkowitz to the DNA profile that you analyzed from that passenger side tail light?
03:49:42.640What did you conclude as far as your physical match analysis within that item alone?
03:49:59.540Within item 3-1, I believe four of the pieces fit together.
03:50:06.760Now, if I could turn your attention to item 7-5, piece of plastic, red, covered, recovered from 34 Fairview Road.
03:50:15.240What did you conclude as far as your physical match analysis just within that single item?
03:50:20.800There was no physical match noted among those three pieces of apparent plastic.
03:50:28.020And when you say no physical match found from the different pieces within that item, what does that mean?
03:50:35.560The broken edges of each piece did not align.
03:50:38.280And what, if any, conclusions did you come to in relation to your physical match analysis between item 7-15 and item 7-60?
03:50:47.500Two pieces from item 7-15, F and H, fit mechanically with two pieces from item 7-16, F and G.
03:51:00.400So two pieces from item 7-8, one piece from item 7-9, piece A, and one piece from 7-16, piece E, were found to have a mechanical fit.
03:51:17.140So those pieces were at one time together as a larger unit.
03:51:21.120And what, if any, conclusions did you come to from your analysis, your physical match analysis between item 3-1 and all of the items beginning with the number 7?
03:51:33.840There was a physical match with, do you want me to list?
03:51:40.440Okay, so two pieces from item 7-5, four pieces from item 7-8, one piece from item 7-10, four pieces from item 7-11, two pieces from item 7-12, two pieces from item 7-13, four pieces from item 7-15, and four pieces from item 7-16, were found to have fit mechanically with item 3-1.
03:52:10.440So what's depicted here is the mechanical fit between item 7-5, 7-6, 7-8, 7-10, 7-11, 7-12, 7-13, 7-14, 7-15, and 7-16, correct?
03:52:28.740Not items 7-8 and 7-14, but the other ones, yes.
03:52:33.300From clashing forensic timelines to newly surfaced text messages, week four brought a wave of testimony that cut straight to the heart of the case.
03:52:46.980With credibility, timing, and motive all now under the microscope, the next phase of this retrial promises even more twists and turns.
03:52:55.680I'm Cody Thomas, and as always, thanks for listening.
03:52:58.040Stay safe, stay informed, and we'll see you next time we go back on the record.
04:08:53.100And yet, in your initial report on January 30th, 2025,
04:09:00.680you did not take that final analytical step, did you?
04:09:06.760No, because these clock variances do not apply to that time frame.
04:09:11.840Is the reason you failed to take that final analytical support, or excuse me, final analytic step we've been talking about in your January 30th report was because you knew if you did that,
04:09:25.860that if you calculated the actual time of the 1162.2 TechStream event, based upon your own methodological analysis of the clock skew,
04:09:39.040there would always be continued interaction on Mr. O'Keefe's phone after the TechStream event.
04:09:58.740And I mean, you can see here that they're really going in the weeds here, guys.
04:10:01.520You know, looking at the infotainment system of the SUV to figure out when the three-point turn was actually made and kind of comparing and contrasting it with Ken O'Keefe's,
04:10:10.080sorry, I said Ken O'Keefe, John O'Keefe's phone, right, to see when he was struck in relation to the infotainment system and his phone.
04:10:19.080Day 20 began with an unexpected delay.
04:10:22.380Judge Beverly Canone spoke privately with jurors for over an hour.
04:10:26.300No one was dismissed, but two jurors were reseated.
04:10:29.220The judge reminded the panel no talking about the case inside or outside the courtroom.
04:10:35.320Neurosurgeon Dr. Isaac Wolfe told jurors that O'Keefe's injuries could have been caused by a fall, not a car.
04:10:42.440He said the trauma was consistent with someone falling backwards and hitting their head on something hard like the ground.
04:10:48.560Then trace analyst Christina Hanley testified that plastic fragments found on O'Keefe's clothes were a possible match for Karen Reed's Lexus taillight or a similar vehicle.
04:10:58.240But the defense hit back, noting glass on Reed's bumper didn't match a cocktail glass collected from the scene.
04:11:05.240You reviewed a number of items of information in this case.
04:11:17.560Did you have an opportunity to review photographs of a laceration to Mr. John O'Keefe's head?
04:22:51.860Now, three years later, looking at a police report that I got on February.
04:22:55.320Actually, David came and brought it to the holding cell at the Stoughton District Courthouse on February 2nd, right before I was arraigned.
04:23:01.940And you see something every time that you just can't see without repetition.
04:23:07.020Your eyes, like, preempt what you're going to, what the next word is, what the next sentence.
04:23:11.480And it doesn't have the same meaning to you today on January 29th, 2025, that it did in 2022.
04:23:17.480So, are you going through all the police reports that you've looked at prior and all the statements?
04:23:23.660You're going through everything again?
04:23:24.800You've got to go through everything again because every time you get something new, it's not what is this on its face.
04:24:14.600You've got to always compare and see what's changed.
04:24:19.380Do you feel like you've gotten more astute doing this now for three years?
04:24:29.180I feel I've, I understand now how it's going to, I understand better how it's going to play in court.
04:24:36.440Or I think of things I was texting David constantly in the early, early days of this.
04:24:42.980I'd find something and I'd think, well, can't we go talk to this person and they'll say it didn't happen that way.
04:24:49.020And now I know better how tough it is to get, especially in my case, how tough it is to get something admitted.
04:24:55.640Even going into trial with my seasoned attorneys, there were things we thought we could show like an exhibit, for example, like one witness, Christina Hanley.
04:25:05.020The key part of her forensic report at the MSP lab, and she's just a scientist, a civilian, but the glass on the bumper that was photographed on the bumper does not match the cocktail glass.
04:35:53.660The wife of the cop that owns the built home.
04:36:23.660The wife of the cop that owns the built home.
04:36:53.660John's Apple health data indicates that he ascended or descended three flights of stairs and took 80 steps between 1222 and 1224.
04:37:06.380And I told you guys this before that this is one of the things that the defense referred to was his Apple watch.
04:37:12.920It stated ascending, descending three floors.
04:37:15.960Suggesting that he entered the home, walked inside and within less than a minute ended up in the basement, either by his own volition or by force.
04:37:23.660The most logical interpretation of the three flights as he went down, turned around to leave and for an unknown reason was returned.
04:37:30.360Theories on how John sustained his injuries vary, but they largely focus on a violent assault carried out by up to three men inside the home, as well as an attack by their ill-tempered German shepherd.
04:37:44.920An animal with a documented history of aggression, one that Brian Albert was caught attempting to conceal from the court by lying, saying that Chloe has never attacked a human being when she has attacked two, sending both to the hospital for treatment.
04:58:03.560You do not hold ABS in a Bachelor of Science in Applied Mathematics and Scientific Computation from the University of Alabama at Birmingham, do you?
04:58:41.440But you know how to put currently pursuing down, don't you, sir, because you did it on the first few CVs, but you don't have it on your LinkedIn page.
04:58:50.680That's probably because, obviously, that has not been updated in quite some time.
04:58:54.040It is your responsibility as the holder of the CV, the LinkedIn page, to make sure it is current and not outdated.
04:59:01.540If you are going to put out there that I am expected to graduate 2016 to 2018, and it is now 2025, and you haven't updated that, that's on you.
04:59:08.440Because you bear the sole responsibility of making sure that your information is current.
04:59:12.480Yeah, this is your responsibility, Burgess.
05:00:23.760All right, now we're going to get into the next guy here, which is this detective.
05:00:31.300Do you believe that this investigation, now I'm going to turn to this investigation, was conducted with professionalism, with competence, at the highest level of integrity?
05:00:39.480This investigation was conducted professionally, with integrity, and all the evidence collected, all the statements collected, pointed in one direction.
05:00:48.980There was no bias influence on the evidence, on the information.
05:00:52.940What he should have said was, and you could tell these guys don't testify that much, though the contents of my colleagues' text messages were unprofessional and done in a comedic fashion, that does not impact the quality of the investigation and the integrity of the investigation whatsoever.
05:01:15.160Everyone has a sense of humor with their colleagues at work and makes jokes.
05:01:19.460That does not impact our ability to be forthright, honest, and impartial in conducting the investigation.
05:01:34.020Workplace banter and jokes do not affect the ability of my colleagues to do this investigation impartially.
05:05:11.980And again, this attorney's looking at him crazy because he doesn't understand this.
05:05:15.120So when you're an investigator, right, there's something called duty, right?
05:05:20.400And whether it's FBI, DEA, whatever it may be, you're going to get general calls, right, throughout the day, the night, whatever.
05:05:29.820And what's up happening is when you're the guy on duty, that means all the calls that come in, any case that happens, you're picking it up, okay?
05:05:38.780So since he was the guy that was on call that week, he ended up taking a case.
05:05:53.580Like if there's a duty magistrate judge for the week, they see all the people that come in for their initial appearance and all that other stuff, right?
05:06:00.200So this is across the entire criminal justice system where there's a duty AUSA, there's a duty ADA.
05:06:09.040Any case that comes through, you know, and you need to call a prosecutor to get a declination or acceptance, there's going to be a duty AUSA if you're a fed.
05:06:17.340There's going to be a duty ADA if you're a state guy.
05:08:07.460So he had some input or had some connection to nearly every part of the case, be it the physical evidence, the search warrants, the interviews, things of that nature.
05:08:29.100Before I have an aneurysm, I'm going to take a pause and I'll say, don't forget to like this video, comment below, subscribe to the channel.
05:08:46.100And with a team of the size that we had working on this case, he did not have a major role.
05:08:51.140So you believe, as you said here today, your testimony is Michael Proctor did not have a major role in this investigation of Commonwealth versus Karen Reed.
05:08:57.940Because you didn't have 51% of something?
05:09:39.080Right, so you knew that for the 1162.2 tech stream event, he was going to use your analysis back in January of 30, 2020, 25, to try to pinpoint that tech stream event 1162.2, correct?
05:11:03.440You're trying to recreate a case from the ground up by changing the facts, manufacturing the evidence, and fabricating what actually happened.
05:30:57.780Karen discovered by researching the Albert and Proctor families on social media this was a lie.
05:31:01.120Throughout the investigation, Proctor went out of his way to protect the McAlberts by treating them as witnesses instead of potential suspects.
05:31:06.900And not interviewing eyewitnesses and even accepting bribes from the Alberts on the day that Reed was arrested.
05:31:12.040Shortly after Brian Nicole arrived at 34 Fairview Road, Jennifer and Matt McCabe pulled into the driveway and parked there.
05:31:17.000At 1214, John O'Keefe had just left the waterfall bar with Karen Reed and texted Jim McCabe asking where to.
05:31:21.640At 1218, he called her asking her to clarify directions.
05:31:24.400Unfamiliar with the town that she didn't live in, Karen went slightly out of the way to get there, coming from the east on Cedar Crest Road.
05:31:29.000She missed the left-hand turn onto Fairview Road, did a U-turn in the driveway, and then she went back to Fairview Road.
05:31:33.560When she did so, a truck was coming from the opposite direction and was trying to turn left onto Fairview Road.
05:31:37.600Inside that truck was Ricky D'Antonio, Heather Maxson, and her boyfriend Ryan Nagel, whose sister Julie Nagel was a friend of Brian Albert Jr., and it called him looking for a ride home.
05:31:45.380D'Antonio allowed Reed to turn onto 34 Fairview and drop John off in the driveway, where she claims that she saw him run quickly to the side door.
05:31:52.400D'Antonio, Maxson, and Nagel pulled in seconds afterwards and testified that they did not see John O'Keefe run into the house.
05:31:57.660Which would make sense, because the other cars in the driveway would have obstructed their view from seeing him.
05:32:02.020Karen had no intention of going inside, because she didn't know anyone there.
05:32:04.560And throughout the whole scene, she just thought it was sketchy, because the house was dark and Higgins had just yelled at O'Keefe before leaving the bar.
05:32:09.440But John was drunk and wanted to go, so she agreed to drop him off.
05:32:12.760The plan was for him to call or text her that he was inside to let her know everything was fine, and she'd go back to his house three miles away at One Meadows Ave, where his 14-year-old Neves was home alone.
05:32:20.180But John never called or texted Karen Reed again.
05:32:22.100As she waited outside, she became frustrated with John for not calling her, and assumed that he had once again gotten drunk and left her to take care of his kids.
05:32:28.260After 10 minutes, she left and drove back to John's house, leaving all sorts of angry voicemails and text messages accusing him of cheating on her.
05:32:34.660This is the exact opposite thing that you would do if you just murdered someone.
05:32:38.680Scott Peterson and countless other killers have left voicemails for their victims, pretending to be worried about them.
05:32:42.660Reed's messages indicated that she thought John was alive, possibly with another woman, and had left her alone to watch his children.
05:32:59.080According to Trooper Nicholas Garino, Karen Reed logged into John's Wi-Fi at 12.36 a.m.
05:33:02.920The 2.3-mile trip from Fairview Road to One Meadows Ave, which included going through a traffic light in the center of town, would have taken...
05:33:08.100Yeah, because I mean, I guess you could make the argument, you know, damned if she does, damned if she doesn't, right?
05:33:11.960If she, you know, talks shit to him, oh, you're angry.
05:33:14.740But if she says, oh, my God, I'm wondering where you are, they'll look at it as a cover-up.
05:33:23.280Yeah, I remember that one as well, where, yeah, he was sending those messages to make it look like he gave a shit, but he actually killed her.
05:33:28.040In at least six minutes in ideal conditions.
05:33:30.640In the snow, it would take much longer.
05:33:32.220That means Karen had to leave Fairview Road no later than 12.30 a.m.
05:33:35.520This presents a huge problem for the Commonwealth.
05:33:37.920Ricky D'Antonio, Heather Maxson, and Ryan Nagel all testified that Julie Nagel came out
05:33:41.780and said that she was going to stay there instead.
05:33:43.220They all left while Karen Reed was still parked outside and drove by her Lexus.
05:33:46.380All three of them testified that they saw Karen Reed alone in her car with the interior lights on in her hands at 10 and 2 on the steering wheel.
05:33:52.420None of them saw John O'Keefe inside the car with Karen Reed.
05:33:54.560None of them saw O'Keefe on the ground outside the car or standing outside the car.
05:33:58.040This means there could only be one place that O'Keefe was inside Brian Albert's house.
06:07:25.520Like that's, that's the view it would have gotten.
06:07:29.680Meanwhile, Proctor and his partner, Yuri Buchanek, didn't even go to 34 Fearview Road that day to investigate the scene.
06:07:35.620At 1130, they decided it was finally time to interview some witnesses.
06:07:38.740But instead of separating them and recording their interviews at a police station, which is what detectives always do, they decided to interview just four witnesses.
06:07:46.680Jennifer McCabe, Matt McCabe, Nicole Albert, and Brian Albert at the McCabe's house.
06:07:50.560After being together all morning and getting their story straight, the four of them drove across town in the middle of a blizzard where they were interviewed by Proctor and Buchanek.
06:07:58.040At no point was anyone in the house treated as a potential suspect who had to be ruled out.
06:08:01.980Their story was a simple one and was blindly taken as gospel by police.
06:08:05.380John O'Keefe never came in the house, but this story strained credulity because there's no possible way that none of them would hear or see a three-ton vehicle striking a man and that none of them would see his body laying on the lawn when they left.
06:08:17.800The four McCalverts all told the same story.
06:08:24.960And in the morning when Jen and Karen went out looking for him, Karen had a cracked taillight and said, could I have hit him upon finding his body?
06:08:45.920And none of the first responders were interviewed.
06:08:47.880Nonetheless, Proctor and Buchanek had determined that Karen Reed was guilty.
06:08:51.320So they got in their car and drove to her parents' house in Dighton to seize her phone and car, which he knew was the murder weapon, based solely on what Jennifer McCabe had told him that Karen Reed had said.
06:09:00.600A cover-up is easier to cover up when you involve less people.
06:09:03.780It's not what the police did do during the investigation they made that made it a cover-up.
06:09:08.500It's what they intentionally didn't do.
06:09:10.460Proctor didn't interview Julie Nagel, Caitlin Albert, her boyfriend Tristan Morris, Brian Albert Jr., or any of the people who were admittedly at the house that night.
06:09:17.400Sarah Levinson was in the house that night, and her name was kept hidden from the defense for almost a year.
06:09:25.860Julie Nagel wasn't interviewed until nine months after Rokie's death, and only after the defense filed a motion in which they pointed out how impossible it would be for no one to have seen a body on the lawn.
06:09:35.940Conveniently, for the first time at her interview, Julie Nagel told Proctor that she saw a dark, shadowy figure on the front lawn.
06:09:42.120She didn't say it was a body because she would have had to call police if she did.
06:09:45.940But calling it a dark, shadowy figure was her way of suggesting that something might have been there without implicating herself.
06:09:52.120Conveniently, at trial, Julie Nagel's story also evolved, this time claiming that the dark, shadowy figure was actually a five to six foot black blob.
06:10:00.360She testified that she realized the next day that the black blob was John O'Keefe, but didn't come forward to speak with police about it.
06:10:08.080Despite admittedly being at Brian Albert's house that night, Colin wasn't interviewed by police until 18 months after John's death, and only in regards to him being a victim of alleged witness intimidation.
06:10:19.440Conveniently, on the day Karen Reed was arrested, Colin's mother, Julie Albert, sent Proctor's sister Courtney a text message offering a thank you gift to Proctor for not interviewing Colin.
06:10:29.480Instead of telling her that this was unethical, Proctor told her to give the gift to his wife Elizabeth instead.
06:10:36.260Colin Albert never had to hand over his phone or answer any questions from police.
06:10:40.040His existence at the house was hidden, despite the fact that Steve Scanlon somehow knew he was there that night.
06:10:45.380Colin claimed that he was home in bed by 1230, but yet at 1233, minutes after Reed left 34 Fairview, and John O'Keefe's phone moved for the last time, Colin called a friend named Erin Beattie.
06:10:56.460She didn't answer, as kids at that age almost never call each other, and when she contacted him the next day, he goes, never mind.
06:11:03.960For telling people this story, Erin Beattie and her father Tom Beattie were harassed and ostracized by adults in the Canton community.
06:11:10.780Jennifer McCabe and her friend Jill Thomas reportedly told 17-year-old Erin Beattie to, quote, put a dick in your mouth instead of talking so much.
06:11:19.300Chris Albert confronted Tom Beattie and tried to get him to say that Colin never called Erin that night.
06:11:24.400They were going out of their way to pressure the Beattie family to lie and cover for Colin.
06:11:28.600Since Colin didn't speak with police and his parents did the speaking for him, an alibi for Colin was finally presented at trial, claiming that he was picked up by Jennifer McCabe's daughter, Allie, at 1210.
06:11:38.220As evidence, the Commonwealth submitted an unverified screenshot of a text message with the name Colin at the top.
06:11:43.480No celebrate report, just a screenshot that Chris Albert gave prosecutor Adam Lally.
06:11:47.620At 1210, Allie tells what she claims is Colin, I'm here, but it doesn't say where here is.
06:11:53.220For all we know, she could have been picking up Colin to drive him to 34 Fairview, which would make sense because the party wasn't really starting until everyone else got back from the bar.
06:12:01.600Allie testified that she was driving people around all night and that Colin Albert was her last pickup at 1210.
06:12:49.660Meanwhile, Chris Albert initially testified that he left the waterfall bar and was home at between 1205 and 1210.
06:12:55.320He said that Colin got home 15 to 20 minutes later and came upstairs to say goodnight to his parents.
06:13:00.540There was a problem with that story, though.
06:13:02.060Chris is seen on surveillance video at the waterfall bar at 1213 and it would take him at least seven to eight minutes for him to walk home from there.
06:13:09.040By his own admittance, his son Colin got home much closer to 1245, which, meanwhile, Chris Albert initially testified that he left the waterfall bar and was home at between 1205 and 1210.
06:13:19.060He said that Colin got home 15 to 20 minutes later and came upstairs to say goodnight to his parents.
06:13:24.340There was a problem with that story, though.
06:13:25.820Chris is seen on surveillance video at the waterfall bar at 1213 and it would take him at least seven to eight minutes for him to walk home from there.
06:13:32.800By his own admittance, his son Colin got home much closer to 1245, which would mean that he was still at Brian Albert's house when John O'Keefe arrived.
06:13:40.300This is why the defense is so suspicious of Colin Albert.
06:13:43.360The McAlberts in the Commonwealth are insistent that Colin wasn't there when John O'Keefe was allegedly killed.
06:13:48.080But why would it matter if he was inside and John O'Keefe was killed outside by Karen Reed?
06:13:52.500Why did he call Aaron Beatty, a girl he wasn't dating, out of the blue at 1233?
06:13:57.100Why did his family try to silence the Beatys?
06:13:59.280Why did his mother offer Proctor a thank you gift?
06:14:01.580And why were his knuckles so cut up in a picture a few weeks later?
06:14:05.120Colin had an explanation for that, too, which illustrated just how easily he could lie with a straight face.
06:14:09.880And I was walking up the driveway and I slipped down the driveway and I tried to catch myself, but I had something in my left hand.
06:14:16.060So I tried to brace myself with my right hand and I ended up sliding a little bit down the driveway.
06:14:21.340Obviously, that was a lie, which begs the question, if he didn't do anything wrong, why did he have to lie?
06:14:27.160Colin also testified he'd never been in a fight before.
06:14:29.420Shortly after that, the internet found three videos of him fighting, proving that he lied about that, too.
06:14:48.280These are questions an investigator looking for the truth could have grilled him on.
06:14:52.500Colin was a hothead and previously had issues with O'Keefe.
06:14:55.280When the lead investigator is Michael Proctor, whose mother describes Colin's family as a second family, you don't have to worry about being questioned by police.
06:15:02.120But perhaps the most obvious witness that...
06:15:03.900That's crazy that the state police took this case and this guy took this case knowing that he was going...
06:15:37.700I tracked down Mr. Trotta and asked him myself.
06:15:40.340For any reason that Lucky Loughran, Brian Loughran, would have been plowing that road at 2.30 in the morning?
06:15:45.420We generally have two people on every route, so it's usually a town plow with a contract plow.
06:15:53.640After that, I trucked down Lucky, who was happy to tell me what he witnessed that morning.
06:15:57.940Lucky said that he did first plow Brian Albert's house at 2.30 and didn't see a body on the lawn.
06:16:03.180When I asked him if he would have seen a body if a body was there, he was insistent that he would because bright lights and constantly looking on the yards and scanning sidewalks in case animals ran into the road.
06:16:13.160Lucky told me that when he tried to do another plow at Fairview Road an hour later, he couldn't because there was a Ford Edge parked in the exact spot where John O'Keefe's body would be discovered three hours later.
06:16:22.380At least three members of the Albert family, Kevin, Brian, and Colin, owned a Ford Edge at the time.
06:16:27.040If there was nobody on the lawn at 2.30, which Lucky Loughran and seven of the witnesses said there was not, then Karen Reed couldn't have struck him at 12.30.
06:16:38.360The fact that the state police didn't put out an all-points bulletin looking for that Ford Edge is all the evidence you need to know that this was a cover-up.
06:16:45.960Remember, this cover-up wasn't so much what the cops did to cover it up.
06:17:16.800They knew that if they spoke to him, he was going to say there wasn't a body.
06:17:19.740Don't really have anything to say to hate.
06:17:21.060Not really my type of content that I would watch, but I think it's unique in there pushing the boundaries with streaming and entertainment.
06:17:34.220You guys know I like to be a bit more intellectual with my content with, you know, political stuff and true crime and analyzing more complex scenarios.
06:17:43.000But, you know, you got to understand that the youth, that's what they're looking for.
06:17:45.980You know, that fan base, that's what they're typically looking for.
06:17:52.580And logically, they'd have to pursue whoever was driving to Ford Edge since they were allegedly right next to a dead cop on the lawn.
06:17:58.980Michael Proctor didn't want to pursue any leads that didn't point to Karen Reed.
06:18:03.140The state police finally decided to interview Lucky Loughran 18 months after the death of John O'Keefe and two days after I published this bombshell interview with him.
06:18:12.080But Proctor and Buchanan weren't trying to learn more about the Ford Edge.
06:18:15.660They were trying to discredit his testimony and get him to say that I illegally wiretapped Lucky.
06:18:22.780At trial, Brian Tully testified that he didn't investigate the Ford Edge because Loughran couldn't possibly be sure it was a Ford Edge.
06:18:29.220But it had four wheels and an engine and whoever was driving it was supposedly parked next to a dead body that police think was run over by a car.
06:18:37.500So wouldn't you want to find out who that person was and speak with them?
06:18:43.440Rather than question any of these witnesses, Proctor and Buchanan drove to Dighton to seize Karen Reed's car which they hadn't seen yet because they were certain that it was a murder weapon.
06:18:51.220No taillight had been discovered at the scene yet.
06:18:53.340At 2.30, they called and asked Dighton police for a tow.
06:18:56.040When they arrived an hour or so later, they didn't take a picture of Karen Reed's car to show the condition of the taillight Ford had been towed.
06:19:01.660According to Michael Proctor's report, and as with all the witnesses, they didn't record any of their interviews with Karen.
06:19:08.780This time is critical because the state police began searching the area where John O'Keefe's body was discovered at 5.45 and found four pieces of taillight.
06:19:16.020If the car was towed at 5.30, then there was no way it could get from Dighton to Canton in a blizzard, normally a 40-minute drive, in time to plant taillight.
06:19:23.060But as it turned out, Michael Proctor was lying about what time he towed the car.
06:19:26.960Video surveillance from the Reed's house shows the car being towed at 4.12 and a Dighton police report confirmed this.
06:19:34.020This meant that Proctor was unaccounted for with Reed's car for 78 minutes and would have more than enough time to get the vehicle to Canton and plant taillight before the state police search at 5.45.
06:19:44.400Nevertheless, in pretrial hearings, the Commonwealth continued to lie about what time the car was towed.
06:19:49.080Adam Lally said in court filings that Bill Reed's ring video didn't reset for daylight savings, but the sun set that day at 4.56 and there was still sunlight in the video at 4.12.
06:19:59.140Eventually, after realizing that they couldn't lie their way out of this one, the Commonwealth called it a scrivener's error, even though the digits 4.1.2 are nowhere near 5.30 on a keyboard.
06:20:10.860The state police cert team, led by Lieutenant O'Hara, began arriving at 34 Fairview Road at 4.51 to search the area where John's body was discovered.
06:20:19.640By that point, Proctor's commanding officer, Lieutenant Brian Tully, determined that O'Keefe was hit by a car and told O'Hara that they were looking for pieces of taillight.
06:20:26.860The scene was unsecured the entire day and more than 18 inches of snow had fallen since the Ken police searched the area and didn't find a single piece of taillight.
06:20:33.520Internal messages show that the cert team was ready to start digging at 5.30, but that Lieutenant Tully did not give them the green light.
06:20:39.440Time was of the essence and snow was continuing to fall.
06:20:44.140They needed to wait for Karen Reed's car to arrive in Canton first.
06:20:46.920They could have brought the vehicle to any state police barracks close to Dighton, including Middleborough or Foxborough.
06:20:51.640Yet they insisted on bringing the car to the Canton Police Department less than two miles away from Brian Albert's house where Kevin Albert was working.
06:20:57.540The car is seen on video, which is shown for the first time in Reed's first trial, entering the Canton Police Salliport garage at 5.36 p.m.
06:21:04.540Proctor could be seen hanging around what appears to be the left rear taillight, which was not broken.
06:21:09.440In other words, there was no evidence Proctor went anywhere near Reed's broken right rear taillight, except there's just one problem.
06:21:15.140The video shown in court was intentionally inverted.
06:21:18.020What appeared to be left was actually right, and Proctor was hanging out there for a while.
06:21:21.780In the video, the word police appears backwards on another vehicle parked in the garage.
06:21:26.520So does the number four on one of the garage's overhead doors.
06:21:30.640Defense attorney Alan Jackson believes it was no accident.
06:21:33.580The time stamp across the bottom is not inverted, and there appears to be somebody standing near it.
06:21:40.660Who's the guy in the watch cap, in the winter cap, back there by that right rear taillight the entire time by himself?
06:21:47.240The Commonwealth was trying to deceive the jury.
06:21:49.700The cover-up was happening right in front of millions of people.
06:21:52.820For 20 seconds at 5.37, the video cuts out.
06:21:55.900And when it begins again, you could see another unknown man, who was not in the video before, leaving the area where Proctor was standing by the right rear taillight.
06:22:04.260And did he have pieces of taillight with him when he left?
06:22:06.300Was it Kevin Albert or Brian Higgins' close friend, Chief Ken Berkowitz?
06:22:09.580The Commonwealth still can't explain who that was.
06:22:12.100But coincidentally, five minutes later, after that, Lieutenant Tully gave the cert team the go-ahead to begin their search.
06:22:17.620Lieutenant O'Hara testified that he had no idea who several members of the cert team were, but said that he believed they were Canton police.
06:22:23.220Minutes after they began searching, someone, they never said who, found a piece of red taillight under 18 inches of snow.
06:22:29.300This was the exact same area Lieutenant Gallagher searched on video during the daylight with a leaf blower on video and did not find any taillight.
06:22:35.740Yet the cert team was able to find it under all that snow with minimal effort in the dark, 10 minutes after Reed's car arrived at camp police.
06:22:42.700Whoever this officer who found the taillight was, was never testified at trial.
06:22:46.960They also found John's missing size 12 shoe that the camp police completely missed during their search.
06:22:51.520So either the camp police are blind and incompetent or the taillight in the shoe were planted.
06:22:55.700Shortly after that, someone on the cert team found three more pieces of taillight.
06:22:59.100Once again, we don't know who, but Brian Tully had seen enough.
06:23:02.100And now that he had some physical evidence linking Reed to the crime scene, he shut down the search.
06:23:06.500O'Hara offered to come back the next day in the daylight to search some more, but Tully told him he was all set.
06:23:11.380Instead, the state police were instructed to drive by on their way to work to see if any taillight presented itself.
06:25:01.360Listen to Dighton Police Sergeant Nicholas Barrows who observed the condition of the taillight at the Reed house and made sure to point out,
06:25:07.640I saw that there was some damage to the right rear taillight.
06:25:10.860To my best ability and recollection, that taillight was not completely damaged.
06:25:14.620It was cracked and a piece was missing but not completely damaged.
06:25:17.800Perhaps the biggest obstacle for the Commonwealth was explained in John O'Keefe's injuries.
06:25:21.100In the words of John's brother, Paul O'Keefe, John looked like he had gone five rounds with Mike Tyson.
06:25:25.640People who get backed into cars have bruises and broken bones but not John O'Keefe.
06:25:29.280Instead, John had two black eyes, a three-inch laceration in the back of the head that looks like he was hit by a blunt object
06:25:42.940and parallel linear cuts exclusively on his right arm.
06:25:46.680And did I mention that Brian Albert owned an aggressive German Shepherd named Chloe with a documented history of biting strangers and dogs?
06:25:53.380They tried to hide this from the court by opposing a defense motion for Canton animal control records
06:25:58.160and having Brian Albert's attorney, Greg Henning, lie in open court by claiming that Chloe never bit a human being.
06:26:03.940Animal control records show that Chloe sent at least two people to the ER.
06:26:07.420According to Dr. Marie Russell, who has done thousands of autopsies, those are dog bites on John's arm.
06:26:12.600And guess what? The six-year-old family dog was suddenly rehomed a few months after John's murder.
06:43:11.720in the front yard of auntie bev's seaside cottage somehow sean mccabe knew that canoni owned a
06:43:17.160seaside cottage down the cape that was just a couple miles from his house additionally judge
06:43:21.240canoni's brother is a lawyer who represented chris albert in 1994 when albert was convicted of
06:43:25.720killing a hungarian foreign exchange student in a hit and run car crash to the surprise of no one
06:43:30.920judge canoni denied the motion to recuse after determining that she wasn't biased little did
06:43:35.880i realize that sean mccabe was going to be the least of my problems you see i was too effective
06:43:40.360at getting the word out about the commonwealth's blatant corruption i was holding protests in the
06:43:43.560courthouse steps before hearings and even though the rolling rally in canton where we stopped at the
06:43:47.160homes of the mcalvards and proctors for five minutes each and i explained to the crowd of 100 or so
06:43:50.920people what they'd done to cover up the murder of john o'keefe the state police in norfolk this
06:43:54.840this nigga bro he's got this guy going hard bro no wonder they want to silence him his office
06:43:59.800really didn't like this in august of 23 d.a michael morrissey issued a press release video in which he
06:44:05.000inappropriately vouched for the truthfulness of the mcalverts said that michael proctor didn't know any
06:44:09.080of the witnesses and demanded that the protest stop but of course we didn't colin albert didn't
06:44:13.240commit murder jennifer mccabe matthew mccabe and brian albert these people were not part of a conspiracy
06:44:18.840and certainly did not commit murder or any crime that night they have been forthcoming with authority
06:44:23.320providing statements and have not engaged in any cover-up they are not suspects of any crime
06:44:27.640they're merely witnesses in the case trooper proctor had no close personal relationship
06:44:32.040any of the parties involved in the investigation what had no conflict and he had no reason to
06:44:36.600step out of the investigation every suggestion to the contrary is a lie on september 25th 2023 i
06:44:41.960published a story after getting a tip that a car resembling jennifer mccabe's was seen parked at
06:44:46.600the proctor's house if true it would mean that morrissey had lied in the statement about the proctors
06:44:51.400not being friends with any of the witnesses in order to verify this i asked turtle riders if one
06:44:55.800of them could run a license plate for me and gave them the license plate number of the car parked
06:45:00.360outside proctor's house several people ran it for me but one of them was an avon police dispatcher
06:45:04.760named janelle webb and it was traced back to her for the crime of peacefully protesting reporting the
06:45:08.840news and exposing the fact that michael morrissey is a liar i was arrested on october 11 2023 at my
06:45:14.200kid's bus stop and charged with nine counts of felony witness intimidation three counts of picketing and
06:45:19.080one count of conspiracy to commit witness intimidation i was indicted two months later
06:45:23.400since i was out on bail another charge would mean that my bail could be revoked for 60 days naturally
06:45:28.360then brian tully and special prosecutor ken mellow began conspiring with the side chick i was seeing
06:45:33.240on friday nights deputized her as a witness and got her to invite me over her apartment so they could
06:45:37.720falsely accuse me of hitting her and have me charged with witness intimidation oh for that i was
06:45:42.200sentenced to 60 days in jail on my birthday the day after christmas the trial began on april of 2024
06:45:48.040and lasted almost three months on the final day of closing statements judge canoni called
06:45:52.280up a juror who is visibly disgusted by the commonwealth throughout most of the trial and
06:45:56.520told her that she'd been reported by lieutenant john fanning who was somehow in charge of juror
06:46:01.080security for allegedly talking about the case at a bar six weeks prior judge canoni then appointed a
06:46:06.120former cop who was hit by a car to be the jury foreman exempting him from the lottery that would
06:46:11.080determine who the alternates were clerk jim mcdermott drew two numbers out of a bucket but didn't show
06:46:15.560anyone in court what so much problems here man this is the problem with the state man these
06:46:19.800dudes are just not thorough messy messy messy those numbers work two other jurors who planned
06:46:25.560on voting not guilty were named alternates and not allowed to delivery after five days of
06:46:29.800deliberations the deep division is not due to a lack of effort or diligence but rather a sincere
06:46:34.360adherence to our individual principles and moral convictions to continue to deliberate would be
06:46:38.680futile and only serve to force us to compromise these deeply held beliefs i'm not going to do that to
06:46:43.320you folks your service is complete i'm declaring a mistrial in this case judge canoni declared a
06:46:47.560mistrial without pulling any of the jurors just when you thought things couldn't get any more corrupt
06:46:51.560jurors started speaking out afterwards the one charge that we were not very clear on and not
06:46:55.400everybody was in agreement with was essentially the manslaughter charge involuntary manslaughter so that
06:47:00.600was the one that we were not clear on but the other two charges which was essentially second
06:47:04.760degree murder as well as leaving a scene of an accident was very clear we all 12 agreed um that was not
06:47:10.840the case and since the instructions were not clear they had no idea that they could acquit on two
06:47:15.800charges and hang on the third so now karen reed will have to face those charges again despite half
06:47:19.880the jury coming forward and swearing that they voted to acquit her trial two will be very different from
06:47:24.440the first trial mike all right like a proctor has been fired and it's unclear if he or the disastrous
06:47:29.960joseph all will be called as witnesses by the commonwealth we know that they've abandoned they definitely
06:47:34.920won't bring proctor back as a witness no way several of their own witnesses that were favorable to
06:47:39.960karen reed and they've added fake youtube doctors as expert witnesses will try to prove that trooper
06:47:44.840paul what he couldn't do in the first trial the norfolk county da's office has hired mob attorney
06:47:49.560hank brennan a close personal friend of mass murderer whitey bulger to be lead prosecutor for
06:47:55.800the commonwealth they have dozens of ada's who get paid to do that job already but all of them refused
06:48:00.840to do it and there was no that way they were going with lunchbox lally again brennan claimed that
06:48:05.400he wanted to ensure karen reed got a fair trial but since taking over he spent most of his time
06:48:09.720trying to prevent her witnesses from testifying thus far brennan has shown a deep personal obsession
06:48:14.440with getting things he's not entitled to like phone records for me and everyone in karen reed's
06:48:17.880family but the facts and the science remain on the side of karen reed some may say that it's hard to
06:48:22.680believe that this many people could be involved in a conspiracy but it's really not that complicated
06:48:26.680five well-connected people with ties to law enforcement brian albert nicole albert matt mccabe jennifer
06:48:31.640mccabe and brian higgins spoke to police after being alone for hours and getting their simple
06:48:35.640story straight the guy never came in the house the lead detective was from canton and his family
06:48:40.120called the alberts the second family all he had to do was cover for them plant some tail light and
06:48:44.360avoid doing normal detective work his bosses instinctively covered for him because cops
06:48:49.080don't snitch on other cops from there it's just people trusting institutions it all makes sense it all
06:48:53.800fits karen reed defying the laws of physics cell phone data no longer being reliable evidence and
06:48:58.920eyewitnesses not seeing something that they definitely should have seen does not make any
06:49:02.920sense there can never be justice for john o'keefe without justice for karen reed she is undeniably
06:49:08.360innocent which means by default that the mcalverts are undeniably guilty we may never know exactly what
06:49:14.040happened to john o'keefe when he went inside brian albert's house but we know as a fact that he was
06:49:18.360beaten up by several people you know what the fact that they didn't search the house is a big problem
06:49:24.440hacked by a dog and thrown out on the lawn to die in the cold we know as a fact that the state police
06:49:30.600are well aware of this and that they allowed michael proctor to intentionally subvert justice but we also
06:49:36.280know that we will never stop fighting for justice until karen reed is free all right not bad man made a
06:49:44.680very compelling case two shareholders and trying to save my own life um i was bitter at first but
06:49:53.320i understand it i just had such strong tender feelings for and i still do for fidelity um i would
06:50:01.640have stayed there forever i was very happy there but as former co-workers have reached out have donated
06:50:08.360incredibly generously i feel like all right it's the company is the people yeah and they've been there for
06:50:14.440me and um do you miss that i i miss working every day i miss just being ordinary and um not feeling
06:50:25.640like people are looking at me everywhere i go does that happen it does i don't know that everyone is
06:50:32.600but i know people approach me everywhere i go and i have to imagine there's people who aren't approaching
06:50:37.320me that recognize me but i i've come to terms with the fact ted that this is this is what my purpose is
06:50:45.400in my life it wasn't working at fidelity it wasn't teaching a night class at bentley those jobs are
06:50:51.880replaceable someone else is doing the job someone else is teaching someone else is the dean at bentley
06:50:56.680now that my father's gone and we're here to shed light on the corruption that exists in this state and i feel
06:51:06.200humbled by it in some ways it's a nightmare and i wish it never happened but i also feel that i can
06:51:13.960handle this and i don't feel weaker as it goes i feel stronger and the public support is a big the
06:51:21.160restoration of my reputation which was a big loss has re-energized me has energized me rejuvenated me
06:51:28.520but this is this is what i'm here for and i get messages constantly from mainly from people i've
06:51:34.600never met and from people that are suffering and it's a lot of women that have either had like a
06:51:39.240physical loss of a spouse or a child or an illness similar to mine or with a colostomy bag um or
06:51:45.800colostomy oh that's why they were making fun of her for the poop stuff okay or have been the victim of
06:51:50.600of of uh you know police harassment or um some type of unfairness with the criminal justice system
06:51:59.080um and there's a lot of suffering in this world mine is just very visible but i i do feel
06:52:06.280honored isn't the right word but i'm humbled by it and i feel like this is your
06:52:08.760purpose and a lot of people have purposes thrust on them that they just didn't really want so people
06:52:13.480will stop you on these streets what do they say to you a lot of times so i just went to the cobbler
06:52:17.240to get shoes that i'm going to wear to court this week that i wore out during trial and the cobbler
06:52:21.240on dream on street and someone in the shop said to me just very respectfully you know hang in there
06:52:25.720and a lot of people are pulling for you i hear that probably the most if i if i could generalize
06:52:30.680the sentiment we're pulling for you hang in there um i was walking through the common when the weather
06:52:35.400was warmer in the fall with a an old friend from fidelity and used to fatally striking her boston
06:52:46.840police officer boyfriend john o'keefe with her car during a snowstorm back in 2022.
06:52:52.840her defense though claims a massive cover-up by local law enforcement before i bring in my guest
06:52:58.440let's take a closer look at the evidence in the case against karen reed here's our own court tv
06:53:03.480crime and justice correspondent matt johnson now to walk us through the crime scene
06:53:10.280we're here in canton massachusetts this is just outside of boston and on january 28 2022 karen reed and
06:53:17.640john o'keefe went out drinking they went drinking here at the waterfall bar and grill
06:53:22.840we're here at the fairview road in canton and at this house
06:53:27.560we're here at the fairview road at the fairview road at the fairview road at the fairview road in canton
06:53:37.320and at this house this house was owned by brian and nicole albert at the time brian was a good friend of theirs and also a police officer now what happens next is what this case is all about prosecutors say that the couple
06:53:53.320actually got into a fight and when o'keefe exited the car karen reed backed over him leaving him to die in the curb here in front of this house during the snowstorm police collected a lot of evidence at the scene including what appeared to be in the curb here in front of this house during the snowstorm
06:54:05.320what appeared to be a broken cocktail glass with blood around it and also a broken tail light now reed says when she pulled up to the house here she wanted to know if the couple was really invited it was late at night
06:54:24.040so she watched john o'keefe walk up to the front door over there and when he didn't return to the car and didn't return her phone call that's when she said she went to his house and fell asleep
06:54:42.040the next morning karen reed hasn't heard from john so she starts making phone calls and then she comes back here to the last place she says that she saw him over at this house on fairview and that's when he's discovered lying in the snow dead
06:55:02.040now reed's defense says a very different story they say that john was actually beaten up in the basement of this house and attacked by the family dog
06:55:11.040they claim that he was dragged outside and left in the snow to die now being here on fairview road in canton a few things come to mind why didn't someone see anything because the neighborhood it's it's fairly dense the houses are close together but you have to keep in mind that this happened in january in the middle of the night and it was also a snow storm whiteout conditions now another key for the defense is the snow plow driver who said that he was
06:55:41.020he cleared fairview road here the morning that john o'keefe was found dead i wonder what this house is worth
06:57:42.020and he claims that he didn't see a body in the road or near the road
06:57:49.780all right let's welcome our guests for this hour criminal defense attorney lara yaretzian thank you of course for joining me this hour to talk about the karen reid case all right court is dark a lot of evidence is presented the second trial has been very different than the first trial you have a different prosecutor you have a different presentation of evidence you have different evidence being presented including the second trial
06:58:03.020the second trial has been very different than the first trial you have a different prosecutor you have a different presentation of evidence you have different evidence being presented including yesterday a witness about some of the evidence that was found i want to talk specifically about the fact that there was testimony yesterday laura that some of the tail light there was trace evidence of it on john o'keefe's clothing i think that makes a pretty good connection
06:58:32.020of course it does i mean it basically as far as the prosecution is concerned it's gonna they're gonna argue that there was contact between the vehicle or the tail light and john o'keefe's body and hence the transference that's an easy one but we'll have to see what the defense is gonna do because i bet you they've got some experts themselves who are gonna be challenging this really great point i think that they will as well but talk about the third party culprit defense because the judges ruled that they're not allowed to use
06:59:01.960that unless the door is open but it doesn't mean they can't argue that something else happened to her that something else happened inside him rather john o'keefe that something else happened inside that house do you think that this time around it's smart to say something happened inside the house he was dragged outside the dog attacked him or do you think perhaps a broader defense of many things could have happened because there's not enough evidence that she hit him with the car would that have been a better
06:59:31.940way to go maybe uh look it all right women talking no one cares all right um so guys i am going to uh
06:59:42.940i think i'm going to call it a night chat it's been uh we're about to cross into the seven hour mark
06:59:49.480yes we're crossing into the seven hour mark i am going to cover um tomorrow i'm going to cover uh charlie kirk debate
06:59:58.940um which i think it's going to be um which i think it's going to be i think