Fed Explains The Mysterious Case Of JonBenet Ramsey
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In this episode, we cover the murder of John benet ramsey, an American child beauty queen who was killed at the age of 6 in her family s home in boulder colorado, Colorado in 1996. Was it an abduction gone wrong, or was it a murder?
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and we are live what's up guys welcome to feta today we're going to be covering
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the murder of john benet ramsey man uh no intro on this one uh i'm here with as you guys know
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angie yes uh introduce yourself to the real quick to the people uh real quick uh my name is angie
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and finally we're covering john benet ramsey because it has been requested for quite a while
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yeah you guys been asking and yes so yeah so we're here at three in the morning for y'all
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after a fresh fit episode to get this done for y'all man because as you guys know by the time
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you guys see this i'm probably going to be in houston and or coming back from houston so i want to make
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sure i get this for you guys so you guys have the content but anyway without further ado let's get
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right into it here john benet uh john benet patricia ramsey born uh august 6 1990 uh passed away december
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25th or 26 1996 was an american child beauty queen who was killed at the age of six in her family's
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home in boulder colorado a long handwritten handwritten ransom note was found in the home
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her father john let me allow this real real quick her father john found the girl's body in the
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basement of their house about seven hours after she had been reported missing she had sustained a
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broken skull from a blow to the head and had been strangled a garage was found tied around her neck
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the autopsy report stated that john benet's official cause of death was asphyxia by strangulation
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associated with a cranial cerebral trauma okay so head trauma uh her brain her death was ruled a
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homicide the case generated worldwide public and media interest in part because her mother
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patsy ramsey a former beauty queen had entered john benet into a series of child beauty pageants
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the crime is still considered a cold case remains an open investigation with the boulder police
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department the boulder police department initially suspected that the ransom note played had been
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written by patsy and that the note and appearance of john benet's body had been staged by her parents
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in order to cover up the murder you're you're you're literally telling the whole well no no i'm not
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gonna go into the woman be quiet stupid all right i'm i'm uh obviously i'm just going over the little
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basic stuff here and then we're gonna continue on but um uh and then what was i gonna say here sorry
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the boulder police initially suspected that ransom note had been written by patsy and that the note and
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appearance of john benet's body had been staged by her parents in order to cover up the murder
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okay in 1998 the police and district attorney both said that john benet's brother burke who was nine
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years old at the time of her death was not a suspect all right so that's kind of a summary guys of
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what's going on here but we're going to go ahead and cover this documentary which pretty good shout
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out to angie for finding this documentary so we're going to play this and uh react to it and give some
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commentary so yeah without further ado angie got anything you want to say before we play it no we can do it
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this frantic voice belonged to patsy ramsey the mother of six-year-old john benet ramsey from boulder
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colorado patsy discovered her daughter's disappearance after finding a ransom note
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as she walked down her steps the day after christmas she immediately called the police for help
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in a tragic turn of events the lifeless body of john benet would be found in the basement of the home
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keep your babies close to you there's someone out there
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was it an abduction gone wrong or was john benet's murder the goal all along
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what really happened in that basement on that cold christmas night in 1996
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welcome back to mysterious seven where we shed light on mysterious cases from across the globe
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today we're looking into the 26 year old bizarre and shout out to this channel this channel is uh
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this is a pretty good one uh and once again thanks to angie for finding this because there were a couple
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documentaries on this but i mean more of the issues with them they were just like boring not as good
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or yeah um they rambled way too much about like meaningless details so gotcha okay our case of john
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in 1979 former beauty queen patsy was only 22 when she met a 14 year senior businessman john ramsey
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the couple were married the following year on november 5th 1980
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yeah because he had that you know what i'm saying we're going to talk about their money here in a second
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john was divorced from his first wife with whom he had three children
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after seven years of marriage patsy gave birth to their first son
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with his keen interest in business and a master's degree in business administration
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one of three companies that later merged to become access graphics
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a daughter in atlanta naming her john benet patricia ramsey
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her first name an homage to her father and her middle name to her mother
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shortly after her birth in 1991 the family moved to boulder colorado
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i will say that i don't agree with putting um children in pageants i think it's a little weird
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and strange and i don't think it's appropriate granted i know it's something that's been around
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forever but i don't think uh i just don't believe in
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beautifying and or sexualizing children i just i just disagree with it
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because of what you're saying oh because it was like too yeah
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they will like just make us do like fashion shows like
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like they're really like unnecessary stuff that we
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didn't need to do yeah but as being kids you know like
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so yeah she took me out yeah i i just i just i couldn't picture my daughter wearing makeup as a
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child you know what i mean i just i just don't like that so
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i mean i i get it like pageants are like a thing but i i disagree with them i don't think we should have
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go for the business moving into a mansion in boulder the ramses were one of the wealthiest
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families in boulder alongside the 15 bedroom mansion the family owned two private jets one
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yacht and one holiday home in michigan john was at that time the ceo of access graphics
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which would go on to become a billion dollar company by selling unix-based computer systems
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his net worth was estimated at 6.4 million dollars by 1996
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while john took care of the finances socialite patsy devoted most of her time at home looking
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after her two children burke was a shy and quiet kid but john benet was very well spoken and outgoing
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she was she was a spark plug she she was very extroverted you know we say she showed up in
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life it's like ta-da i'm here you know starting from when john benet was very young patsy entered
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her in children's beauty contests and she was tremendous in her performances with her poised
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smile bouncy blonde hair and glittery costumes with her mother's training who was a pageant girl
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herself john benet won the first pageant she was ever entered into and would go on to win many
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more trophies in her short life she attended high peaks elementary school by the time she turned
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six in 1996 the christmas celebrations in 1996 began like any other christmas little john benet
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got a bike as a christmas gift that year the ramsey family spent the and real quick just so you guys
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know uh six seven seven to six million dollars back then was approximately 13 million today as far as
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inflation goes back in 96 and you know the crazy part is is that um she's my age guys i was born in 1990 as
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well so this is wild to me that you know and tragic that someone will lose their life so early
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on evening at a christmas party hosted by family friend fleet white according to statements while
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returning home john benet had fallen asleep in the car so john carried her up the stairs to her room and
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put her to bed at around 9 30 p.m shortly after patsy and john went to bed as they planned to get up
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early to prepare for a trip to their holiday home on lake michigan
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the following day on december 26 1996 patsy woke just after 5 a.m as she was walking down the stairs
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to the kitchen she found a two and a half page ransom note the note said that john benet had been kidnapped
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by a small foreign faction and was being held for a ransom of 118 000 which needed to be exchanged the
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next day for her safe return the letter also warned that if the money was not delivered or the police
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118 000 back then guys is roughly 226 000 today an hysterical patsy yelled to john as she ran back up
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the stairs and opened the door to john benet's room discovering that she wasn't there they made the
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decision to call the police we were kidnapping all right please explain to me what's going on okay
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there we have a there's a note left and our daughter's gone a note was left and your daughter
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is gone how old is your daughter six years old she's gone six years old it was at 5 25 a.m when the 9-1-1
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call was dispatched deputies from the boulder police department arrived at the ramsey family home
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just seven minutes after the call came in meanwhile the ramses called several friends and family
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members over to their home the officers conducted a quick search of the house and reported no obvious
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signs of forced entry or any struggle the only room sectioned off was john benet's room which they
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believed was the kidnapping scene upon finding no evidence in the ransom letter at first glance
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detectives had no other option but to wait for the ransom call that was supposed to come in between
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eight and ten a.m based on the note when you get home you'll put the money in a brown paper bag i
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will call you between eight and ten a.m tomorrow to instruct you on delivery however even after
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waiting for several hours no such call and most of the time guys these ransom things never work out
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whether you know the person is killed anyway or they can't get the money or something occurs it it
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almost always fails came in at around 1 p.m john was asked by detectives to search the whole house
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top to bottom to check if anything was missing john's friend fleet white decided to join him in the search
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and together they decided to start from the bottom of the house which is the basement as john and fleet
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were walking through the basement they opened the door to a disused wine cellar that had been overlooked
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by investigators during the initial search there they were confronted with a gruesome scene inside
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the darkened basement room in a corner little john benet was lying lifeless wrapped in a white blanket
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and a sweatshirt her eyes were closed her mouth was covered with black duct tape and a nylon rope was
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wrapped tightly around her neck her right hand was bound with a piece of rope which was also used to fashion
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a handcrafted garotte used to strangle her john benet was wearing a white knit shirt with a sequin
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decorated star on its chest and her white underwear was stained with urine john immediately picked up
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his daughter's body loosened up the ropes tore the tape off her mouth and brought her to the upstairs living
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room potentially destroying crucial evidence in the process yeah and that's really bad for destroying evidence
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big loose for the police the colorado police department yeah that's because they left these
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people contaminate the crime scene yeah yeah and i mean i get it it's like an emotional thing
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so they're like you know you see your daughter there you're not going to think twice like oh yeah let
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me preserve the crime scene you're thinking oh she might be still alive let me try to do something
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you know so yeah and the process of doing that they absolutely ruined but they also like
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the parents called people and friends and neighbors to help for the search of the of the girl
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and they also walked around the house they were checking everywhere so they they it up yep absolutely
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absolutely and they're not sworn law enforcement officers so them going ahead and finding evidence
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isn't going to help at all yeah so yeah this definitely was a big l guys because there was
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who knows what kind of potential dna uh evidence they they around with at that point
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well when i first found her was it was just a rush of you know thank god i found her and that it was
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a relief like a overwhelming relief that i found her and then i realized pretty quickly that she wasn't
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alive you know and i get it you're the dad you know as soon as john put his daughter on the floor
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patsy collapsed right on top of the body while crying and screaming at the top of her lungs
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as friends and family began to console the grief-stricken parents police began to investigate
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the crime scene as police headed to the basement to inspect the crime scene they noticed that the
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basement was partitioned into several smaller rooms the old wine cellar where the body had been found
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was also used for storage it was filled with various arts and crafts decorations and old paint cans
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there was a room to the northwest in the basement where a storm window with a broken window pane was
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discovered first thing i noticed obviously was the three sets of windows in the wall up there
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and i noticed the broken window and the suitcase when i see a blue suitcase below a window the first
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thing that i'm thinking was the intent eventually by the the perpetrator to put the body in a suitcase
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and remove the body from the crime scene john claimed that he broke it last summer after
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locking i have the the basement uh floor plan here oh you do if you want to show it okay um all right
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i'll pull that up for you guys uh right now if you can send that to me okay cool himself out of the
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house and because they lived in a safe neighborhood he never bothered to fix it the window is how police
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believe the killer gained entry to the property a suitcase was positioned under the window in the
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basement which was believed to have helped the intruder get back out of the window at the crime
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scene near where the body was found investigators found a partial footprint and a palm print on the
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door of the wine cellar in the basement both of which could not be identified
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the autopsy report of john benet ramsey revealed many grim details about her death the child had
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several minor injuries including an abrasion on her cheek and tiny hemorrhages around her eyelids
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and uh guys i do have the crime scene photos here which they're they're graphic i'm not going to show
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them obviously for obvious reasons uh because it's youtube and and honestly it pisses me off because i don't
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think uh yeah i'm just not going to show pictures of a child um deceased i'm just not going to do it
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uh but um if you guys want to look at them i'll put them there uh uh in in the link for you guys if
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you want to look but uh yeah the the bastard that this deserves to ride in hell but uh you you guys can
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uh check them out if you want but uh i just shouldn't even put them you know yeah yeah it's horrible
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yeah it's it's really granted you don't see her face or anything you see like her hands or and stuff but
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it's still um disturbing so uh anyway yeah back of her ankles also had minor abrasions
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her skull was fractured as a result of blunt force trauma to her head
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however the official cause of her death was ruled as asphyxia by strangulation
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she'd been strangled twice with a nylon cord which had been tied to a makeshift garage which was made
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from a broken piece of one of patsy's paint brushes no alcohol or medications were discovered in
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her system however the coroner found traces of pineapple in john benet's stomach later her
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parents claimed they did not remember giving her any pineapple the night before she died
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but there was a bowl of pineapple in the kitchen which had her nine-year-old brother burke's fingerprints
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her underwear as well as her leggings were consistent with urine stains her area was wiped clean and the
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underwear did not contain any however it had dna from an unknown male even with all this evidence
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investigators were not able to link anyone to the crime but later in the investigation all these
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pieces of evidence separately gave birth to many theories although john benet was strangled by a nylon
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cord the object that was used to hit her in the head was never identified despite a few objects haven't
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been called up for debate a metal baseball bat was found by the wine cellar door later on in the search
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but this could have been placed there by one of the staff on the property another object in question
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is the flashlight found on the kitchen counter the head of which was consistent with the shape of the
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injury found on john benet's head needless to say the boulder police department failed to properly
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secure the crime scene and protect evidence now boulder police department
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they not only let the family and friends roam around the house with some of them even cleaning up
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but they also sent john to search the house instead of doing it themselves their negligence compromised
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potential evidence which might have been left at the crime scene as well as on the victim's body
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after their initial fumble the investigation took a different direction investigators started with a
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theory of intruders but soon they zeroed in on the ramses due to some concerning evidence
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apparently investigators discovered that not only the ransom note was written on one of patsy's
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notepads using her pen but handwriting experts from cbi who had eliminated john ramsey as the notes author
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cbi guys is the colorado bureau of investigation so that's similar to the tbi that i broke down for you
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guys on the nashville shooting it's the colorado's version of the state police investigators you know
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so they're cbi special agents similar to think of them as a state version for colorado of the fbi
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couldn't do the same for patsy comparing the ransom note with patsy's handwriting sample
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they could neither eliminate her as the writer nor say definitively that she was
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investigators made another startling discovery regarding the note the ransom money was the exact
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same amount as john ramsey's christmas bonus from that year police found it extremely
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only a hundred and eighteen thousand dollars which is considerably low compared to the millions the
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ramses had in their bank account but they also took time writing and practicing a ransom note inside the
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house the extremely long and bizarre note also contained several movie quotes which perplexed
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investigators we catch you talking to a stray dog she dies in the movie instead of it actually being a
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dog a dog breed is actually mentioned if you alert bank authorities
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don't try to grow a brain john a certain character who was an lapd police officer who was on a runaway bus
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was talking to a mad bomber on his cell phone the movie was speed
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there was another red flag investigators focus i guess the killer really enjoyed pop culture man
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like what the hell their attention on john and patsy claimed that their eldest child burke who was
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just nine years old during the incident was sleeping the entire time patsy and john were frantically
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looking for their daughter and was only awoken by his father after they called the police
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yet the 911 dispatcher claimed that she heard the voice of a third person when patsy thought she hung
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up the call but was still on the line some people assume that the voice was burke's so i remained on
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the phone trying to hear what was being said sounded like there were two voices in the room maybe three
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different ones the other anomaly in their story was that both john and patsy were adamant that john
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benet fell asleep in the car and they carried her to bed without her ever waking so the discovery of
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pineapple in john benet's stomach and a pineapple filled bowl with burke's fingerprints on it fueled
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the suspicion that john benet's family were not telling the complete truth one investigator theorized
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that burke accidentally hit his sister in the head with the nearby flashlight after a fight ensued
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between them regarding the pineapple in the fear of losing two of their children john and patsy staged
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the crime scene with a ransom note to make it look like an intruder was responsible for the murder
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in an attempt to find clues police even interviewed burke separate from his parents on multiple occasions
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but could not reach any conclusion one other theory was that it was patsy who killed her own
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daughter after john benet approached her mother with a bedwetting incident that christmas night
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apparently i think that's kind of crazy the six-year-old was a regular bedwetter and even
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often wore diapers despite her age many suspected that patsy who allegedly had some psychological issues
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at the time attacked john benet in a fit of rage eventually killing her some believe that she along
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with john covered the crime to look like a kidnapping and later deliberately compromised
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evidence to divert the investigation the news of the horrific death of the six-year-old beauty
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queen who was the daughter of a millionaire broke like wildfire john benet ramsey the little girl in
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colorado was murdered beauty queen john benet john benet's murder has frightened residents of boulder
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local national and even international media followed the murder of john benet ramsey closely
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picture and i'll tell you guys this as someone you know who's her age i remember vividly when i was a
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kid right around nine ten years old years after she had died they were still talking about this on the
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news they were still interviewing the parents this was huge back in the day years of the little girl
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wearing full makeup this is 20 years ago now at this point over 20 years ago glittery outfits were
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displayed on the covers of every tabloid magazine as america continued to speculate if the ramseys caused
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the death of their own child their lawyer criticized the media for character assassination against his
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clients he also accused boulder police of leaking false and distorted information to the media
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to apply pressure and elicit a confession from john and patsy
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just a day after john benet's burial in saint francis episcopal cemetery in marietta georgia john and
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patsy gave their first public appearance on january 1st 1996 the ramsey parents pleaded on cnn
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for help finding their daughter's murderer in their first public comment on the murder patsy says that
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there's a killer on the loose there is a killer on the loose i don't know who it is i don't know if
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it's a he or a she but if i were a resident of boulder i will tell my friends to keep
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keep your babies close to you many people including some in law enforcement found the
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interview and their body language suspicious but no solid proof ever emerged in support of the theory
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this interview forged a path for dozens of other interviews from the ramsey family over the years
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but none led to any significant clues that could unravel the mystery
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and they were being interviewed guys into the early 2000s i vividly remember uh back in like
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that like it was either late 99 or 2000 or 2001 they were still talking to these parents about
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this case man and like i had saw it on like dateline or one of these mainstream television i know i'm
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just showing my age right now because tv used to be the thing back then guys it wasn't like netflix and
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streaming like you guys see nowadays like if you wanted the news you had to turn on the tv to be able to
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do it or read the newspaper so yeah they were interviewing them into the late 90s early 2000s
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man i remember about this that's crazy i don't understand how can they bear to be interviewed
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that many times yeah it is a little crazy right it is i mean if if you have a missing child you
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do have a missing child that child like why will you be reminded like what will you want to be reminded
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of i mean maybe maybe because they want to get justice right i could see that perspective as well but
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at the same time yeah you're opening a wound every time you go and do that interview exactly but also
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like it's repeating the same story as well yeah like well what could they say that could be different
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like if they hadn't said it like you know their interviews true i understand true true very very
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true but hey man anything for clout right it was months before investigators were able to obtain the
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clothing the ramses had worn the night their daughter was killed that was only the only way to get clout
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back then bro if you weren't on tv you are nobody bro like there's no social media none of that there
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ain't there ain't no uh you're not going to build a platform unless you get on tv back then well the
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only reason i would think is money you know like if they get paid yeah but they have money so that's
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that which is also strange to me so i don't know yeah and even longer before they could get access to
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the parents phone records and credit card bills while there had already been a dna test done by the
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colorado bureau of investigation a secondary one was done by maryland's cellmark laboratories
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and john bonnet's parents remained under the umbrella of suspicion needless to say the ramsey
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family was extremely upset with the investigation they felt that both boulder police and the media
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were targeting them deliberately without any hard evidence just months after the murder once these
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allegations came to light the ramsey stopped cooperating and stopped giving interviews to
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police despite previously cooperating with the investigation and even submitting their dna samples
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willingly the ramsey's attorneys wanted all the questions they said they wouldn't go in for an
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interview with the police because they didn't know what the police were going to ask all further
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interactions with investigators were set about by their lawyer whom they hired soon after the murder
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following a friend's advice in february of 1997 district attorney alex hunter announced that they
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had formed an expert prosecution task force vowing to bring john bonnet's killer to justice the team
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included forensic expert henry lee and dna specialist barry sheck who were both henry lee is very famous he has
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a whole part of university new haven named after him i think it's called the henry lee school of forensic
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science both involved with oj simpson's defense team in march of the same year just three months after
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the killing the da asked detective lou smith who had long time expertise involving tricky homicides to
00:28:08.580
join the investigation he initially explored the boulder police department's theory of john bonnet's
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mother patsy ramsey being the killer and writing the ransom note she said she had found in her home
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however 18 months after joining the investigation detective smith resigned accusing the boulder
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police of unfairly targeting the ramses as suspects despite substantial evidence to the contrary
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some people call it tunnel vision perhaps that's the case they have just stopped at the ramses
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plain and simple they've gone to the ramses and they've stopped in his resignation letter dated
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september 20th 1998 he stated that he believed the ramses did not do it he further explained that there
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was credible evidence of an intruder and a lack of evidence that the parents were involved
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after leaving the investigation smith independently worked on the case for years on his own dime
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unfortunately he passed away before seeing the case resolved
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on october 13th 1999 boulder district attorney alex hunter announced that a grand jury had finished
00:29:18.500
its investigation and he was not interested in filing charges against the ramses because of a lack of
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evidence the ramses released a statement following this announcement saying that it was no satisfaction
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since a child killer remained free and undetected what was unknown at the time but was reported by cnn
00:29:38.180
14 years later was that in 1999 the grand jury had indeed voted to indict both john and patsy ramsay
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on charges of child abuse resulting in death and being accessories to a crime according to unsealed
00:29:56.180
court documents both parents were thought to have hindered the original investigation in multiple
00:30:01.140
different ways but hunter refused to file the charges so that's clear guys so it wasn't that they were the
00:30:07.140
killers it was that they impeded the investigation to the point that it was significantly damaged so
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they couldn't catch the actual killers that's a very important distinction even though the grand
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jury voted for them believing he did not have enough to get a conviction we do not have sufficient
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that's true guys remember just because you have enough to indict does not mean that you have enough
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to win a trial and keep in mind he's not stupid okay he knows that the ramses got what
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and when they got money what does that mean they can get a good defense team
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and that means that they're going to fight this thing tooth and nail and what's more than likely
00:30:41.540
going to happen it's going to be a big easy that was easy victory for the ramses and they don't want
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to lose okay so any defense attorney with half a brain would have been able to fight off
00:30:53.220
these prosecutors and get the ramses off so they looked at it like just because we have enough to
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indict does not mean that we have enough to convict them beyond a reasonable doubt keep in mind guys
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for all my uh international viewers out there and guys that aren't too well versed in the law
00:31:07.860
to indict someone all you need is probable cause to convict someone you need beyond a reasonable doubt
00:31:13.540
which is substantially more than just probable cause evidence to warrant the filing of charges against
00:31:21.220
anyone who has been investigated at this time although they were never officially charged many
00:31:28.660
people including many in the media still held them responsible for john benet's death despite their
00:31:34.420
continuous claims of innocence the ramsay family continued giving interviews at regular intervals
00:31:40.420
and even released a book entitled death of innocence in 2000 naming three potential suspects none of whom
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would ever be held i think i saw an episode of them promote uh promoting this book
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book by the way guys um in the early 2000s because they did more interviews to promote this book
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okay this is this is just dumb now yeah weird huh why why would you accountable for when would you get
00:32:02.820
a book man why would you write a book about this like this is just like i don't know well you know i
00:32:06.900
mean if you didn't do it i guess like it would be annoying to be accused of killing your own child
00:32:11.380
but you're getting money out of it that's true the murder
00:32:15.620
it's weird everything they're doing is weird but that does not necessarily mean they're guilty but
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we'll see here in 2006 the ramsay family faced another tragic loss after a long battle with ovarian
00:32:30.900
cancer patsy ramsay took her last breath on june 24th 2006 at the age of 49 as years passed the
00:32:39.620
ramsey family continued to protest their innocence as they continued to demand justice for john benet
00:32:45.540
on july 9 2008 nearly 12 years after the murder in a press conference boulder district attorney mary
00:32:52.660
lacy publicly exonerated and cleared the entire ramsey family of responsibility for the death of john
00:32:58.900
benet ramsey lacy cited new methods of dna analysis suggesting that the ramsey family did not have anything
00:33:05.860
to do with their daughter's killing you know bam cleared you know a letter oh look the da actually
00:33:13.780
sent them a letter mr john ramsey dear mr ramsey as you're aware since december 2002 the boulder
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district attorney's office has been the agency responsible for the investigation of the homicide
00:33:22.340
of your daughter john benet i understand that the fact i understand the fact that we have not been able
00:33:27.220
to identify the person who killed her is a great disappointment that is a continuing hardship for you
00:33:31.940
and your family however significant new evidence has recently been discovered through the application
00:33:36.980
of relatively new uh she also apologized to the family it's okay of dna analysis this new scientific
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evidence are contributing in any way to the public perception that they convinces us that it is
00:33:47.780
appropriate given might have been involved in this crime circumstances of this case god damn it
00:33:53.300
hold on guys i'm gonna get it contributing in any way to the public perception that they might have been
00:33:58.340
involved in this crime okay circumstances of this case to state that we do not and that probably ends
00:34:04.260
up uh want to pursue charges and do not think you're culpable blah blah in august 2009 boulder police
00:34:11.460
announced that they were reactivating the case with the help of a newly created 20-person advisory task
00:34:17.060
force to further work on john benet's murder since then the case has remained open though no new suspects
00:34:24.420
have been named publicly investigators revealed in a statement that they had tested over 1500 pieces of
00:34:30.900
evidence analyzed nearly a thousand dna samples interviewed more than a thousand individuals
00:34:37.140
and investigated over 21 000 tips through 19 states but always came up empty-handed
00:34:45.300
in late 2016 just months before the 20th anniversary of john benet's murder cbs released a special on this
00:34:52.660
crime where team of investigators suggested a theory that involved john and patsy ramsey creating a fake
00:34:59.140
crime scene to cover up burke ramsey's involvement in accidentally killing his younger sister after its
00:35:05.300
release burke filed a 750 million dollar oh yeah you know that's coming cbs the producers of the
00:35:13.940
documentary as well as the experts who were seen in the documentary burke also separately sued a forensic
00:35:20.420
pathologist who gave an interview promoting the documentary breaking a 20-year silence in september
00:35:26.740
of 2016 the nearly 30-year-old burke ramsey appeared on the dr phil show and spoke publicly about the
00:35:33.380
murder for the first time while addressing some of the conspiracy theories surrounding his involvement
00:35:38.900
in the murder he denied killing his sister several times he also complained about the media's perception
00:35:45.220
yeah uh guys if you guys want a little bit of a laugh go watch that interview he was
00:35:49.780
really weird i ain't gonna lie very strange maybe i'll pull it up for you guys if they don't hit me
00:35:53.380
with the copyright option of the case and said it had led him to seek a more private life as an adult
00:35:59.620
many people criticized this interview addressing burke's uncomfortable grinning throughout the entirety of
00:36:04.740
the episode yes it was weird as hell you know what let's go you know what it is what it is if we're
00:36:09.860
getting hit with the copyright it is with the tears and you guys can see here that the house is on sale
00:36:14.420
right now for nearly seven million dollars holy out there in boulder colorado okay so if you guys want
00:36:22.420
to get chapped lips move out there to boulder um let's see here so you go youtube right
00:36:30.660
burke ramsey got to my boy andrew tate free him and tristan i was talking with them today they're
00:36:36.340
doing well guys uh burke ramsey interview dr phil comes right up right here it is
00:36:47.780
it's the season premiere of speak to them why 14 years he ran some note reported
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is thankful for her being there he continued did you know she it gets worse to be able to realize
00:37:12.260
sorry guys i don't think this is it no it's not that one this is the one that it was
00:37:17.860
i don't know like had i ever been to a funeral before period i'm not sure who was with you when
00:37:24.020
you were standing and viewing her me and my mom my dad how were they behaving
00:37:30.900
you can tell my dad loved my sister a lot and they're both crying well let me see if i can get
00:37:37.540
any better quality for you guys this is probably the murder of six here we go okay let's fast forward a
00:37:42.980
little bit where is he he didn't have to get up to check because he knew exactly what had happened
00:37:50.820
i mean i didn't know if there's some bad guy downstairs yeah that is a weird grin actually
00:37:55.300
what the hell then you look here it's weird to think that at least no one in the world knows exactly
00:37:59.940
what happened uh the fact that the man says it will remain unsolved i've seen many detectives solve
00:38:06.500
uh uh mystery deaths when they put their heart and i hope john bonnet gets her justice uh she deserves
00:38:12.980
let's see here yeah it's just people like showing okay the brother's perpetual smile is not only
00:38:23.620
inappropriate it's absolutely horrifying yeah it is a little weird bro yeah i mean look look at that
00:38:29.940
dad was chasing off with a gun everyone looks at the interview of burke and thinks why is this young
00:38:36.980
man smiling yeah i don't see a smile as much as i see an uncomfortable facial expression but i don't
00:38:46.100
that's true some people are weird as fuck and just smile when when they're getting interviewed but
00:38:50.100
i mean it was weird as hell you know i mean it definitely oh here we go dr phil are you aware of
00:38:57.140
these different theories that are out there i know they were camps i guess and these are people that post
00:39:03.940
online the shorthand is rdi ramsey did it idi intruder did it or bdi burke did it do you know the theories
00:39:16.900
that they set forth in saying that your mom killed john bonnet i don't know the details but i know the
00:39:25.780
ransom note they think the handwriting match have you seen it have you read it
00:39:30.100
i don't think i've read the whole thing i've definitely seen pictures of it though
00:39:36.180
did the handwriting look familiar to you at all had you seen it ever before no is that the real
00:39:42.980
like the listen no of course that's probably a copy carefully is very distinct and i've never really
00:39:48.020
seen that the real one's going to be an evidence vault at the boulder police department
00:39:52.260
i don't know i've never really looked at it closely because i'll see it and kind of get
00:39:56.420
taken aback and it's not something i really want to look at like a lot you know right does that look
00:40:05.860
like her handwriting honestly looking at that she would always bug me about having good handwriting and
00:40:13.220
she would like make me rewrite stuff to try to get yeah he's just he's awkward oh and they
00:40:19.460
turned the comments off of course this is the actual dr phil channel that was probably because
00:40:22.980
they were roasting him for being weird so despite all the concerning factors and allegations against
00:40:30.020
the ramsays they were not the only suspects in john bonnet's murder as twisted as this case is
00:40:37.220
there was in fact a pool of suspects who were not in the ramsay family over the years a number of
00:40:43.700
people were under the light of suspicion for the little girl's tragic demise unfortunately every effort
00:40:50.020
from the investigation to look into them was in vain one of those suspects was gary oliva a then 32
00:40:57.300
year old known sex offender in boulder colorado given the fact that there was unknown male dna on
00:41:03.620
john bonnet's underwear and she was thought to have been sexually molested gary was looked into as a
00:41:08.980
suspect more concerningly the convicted pedophile had been living in the area on and off when police
00:41:15.460
allegedly found a magazine cut out with john bonnet's picture in his backpack after he was apprehended
00:41:20.740
on drug charges in 2000. allegedly not long after this murder he also confessed to one of his friends
00:41:27.540
about hurting a little girl this is another thing get the rocks this is another reason why a little
00:41:34.820
girl shouldn't be on pageants yeah pageants yeah i agree i get this terrifying phone call yeah he's
00:41:40.500
screaming i heard a little girl it was shock it was pure shock he was soon released from prison but the
00:41:48.580
suspicions remained however in later years he was cleared as a suspect based on dna testing another
00:41:56.260
potential suspect was an electrician named michael helgoth who worked in a nearby auto salvage yard
00:42:02.020
around the time of the murder allegedly michael had been tied to an alleged property dispute involving the
00:42:08.100
ramsays the investigating officers speculated whether or not he was involved in the despicable
00:42:14.020
act of john bonnet's murder out of revenge against her parents allegedly helgoth made multiple
00:42:20.500
concerning statements to one of his colleagues shortly before john bonnet's murder such as he
00:42:25.700
couldn't wait until christmas as he and a partner were about to make 50 to 60 thousand dollars each
00:42:32.340
he also made a comment about what it would feel like to crack a human skull oddly enough he committed
00:42:38.740
suicide just two days after 1997 press conference announcing that the boulder da was zeroing in
00:42:45.140
on a new suspect however helgoth has since been cleared by dna in 2006 investigators seemingly got a
00:42:53.540
breakthrough in the case out of the blue when a former school teacher john mark carr confessed to john
00:42:59.220
bonnet's death in graphic detail saying that it was an accident carr was arrested in thailand where
00:43:05.780
he'd been living after facing child pornography charges in the u.s john mark carr 41 years old
00:43:14.420
was arrested for the murder of john bonnet ramsay yesterday morning at approximately 6 a.m in bangkok thailand
00:43:23.700
he was immediately flown to boulder for questioning but his testimony was not consistent with the details of the
00:43:29.140
crime he claimed that he drugged john bonnet before her murder but there were no traces of drugs found in the
00:43:35.140
victim's system during the autopsy in his confession he'd mostly provided only basic facts that were publicly known
00:43:42.740
and failed to provide any additional convincing details you and guys this is actually more surprising
00:43:49.620
than you think people making false confessions like this was ultimately cleared after his dna failed to match the
00:43:55.140
profile of the profile of an unknown male found on the victim and written off as a pedophile who was
00:44:00.180
after notoriety and fame hey do anything for clout man no i see however his confession and arrest made
00:44:06.980
headlines in the international media eventually turning into a media fiasco bill mc reynolds a retired
00:44:14.020
professor and a family friend also found himself on the police radar regarding the death of john bonnet
00:44:19.700
mc reynolds had dressed up as santa claus the week before john bonnet's murder to entertain the
00:44:25.300
neighborhood children at one of patsy's famous christmas gatherings and allegedly gave john bonnet
00:44:30.740
a card promising her a special gift after christmas allegedly mc reynolds was rumored to have paid a
00:44:38.180
little too much attention to john bonnet going so far as to arrange a secret visit from santa claus on christmas
00:44:44.580
eve his strange behavior made him a questionable man in the eyes of authorities as well as the ramsey
00:44:50.500
family to add fuel to the fire there were two more coincidences that emerged upon digging into mc
00:44:56.740
reynolds past his own daughter was abducted along with one of her female friends and was forced to
00:45:02.100
witness the sexual assault of her friend exactly 22 years to the day before john bonnet's murder
00:45:08.580
additionally mc reynolds wife wrote a play about a young girl being sexually assaulted and murdered in a
00:45:13.940
basement a story that was eerily similar to john bonnet's however the story was based on the true
00:45:20.900
story of sylvia likens despite this particular suspect generating buzz in the media it failed to
00:45:27.380
amount to anything substantial after mc reynolds death in 2002 however authorities deemed him highly
00:45:34.100
unlikely to have been responsible for the crime according to one theory a 68 year old colorado woman
00:45:40.740
bernice johnson an inmate at the denver women's correctional facility claimed that her ex-partner
00:45:46.660
and her daughter's father todd fuss had some role to play in the john bonnet ramsey case given that
00:45:53.140
their child was possibly in some of the same pageants as john bonnet she said that todd might have been at
00:45:59.220
the same location and event as john bonnet on a few occasions and developed a sick fantasy about her in his
00:46:04.740
mind she also made allegations that he'd previously been caught watching young girls while this claim
00:46:11.540
itself led to a whole new theory todd was later cleared after his dna did not match the crime scene
00:46:16.980
dna the last suspect in this list is linda hoffman pew who voiced her suspicions about patsy for
00:46:24.020
accidentally killing john bonnet while linda worked as a housekeeper her husband mervyn pew worked as a
00:46:30.420
handyman for the ramsey family suspicion first fell on linda when patsy claimed to investigators
00:46:36.500
that linda and mervyn were struggling for money at the time and asked for a loan of several thousand
00:46:41.540
dollars from the ramsey family which was rejected investigators speculated that linda who was known
00:46:47.860
to carry a key to the home could have led a trusting john bonnet down into the basement on christmas night
00:46:53.700
in an attempt to trick her employers into leaving money for her ransom but somehow ended up accidentally
00:46:59.540
killing her it was also possible that she could have learned about john ramsey's christmas bonus
00:47:04.900
and chosen that as her demand additionally she did not even have a solid alibi for the night of the
00:47:10.820
murder reportedly police took her fingerprints and several strands of her hair but never officially
00:47:16.900
charged her as a suspect in john bonnet slaying just a few months ago john ramsey came out with his
00:47:24.660
take on the investigation and needless to say he was not very pleased with it in fact john ramsey slammed
00:47:32.180
the investigators for not doing their job properly as he believed that there was a huge connection
00:47:37.220
between his daughter's murder and a frightening attack carried out just nine months later on another
00:47:42.260
young girl who went to the same dance school as john bonnet the perpetrator however was never found just
00:47:49.060
like in the case of our slain beauty queen yep crazy stuff riddled with conflicting theories false
00:47:57.940
confessions and a pool of suspects the 26 year old mystery of who killed america's tiny pageant queen
00:48:04.260
has long become a white whale for conspiracy theorists and armchair detectives alike just last year john
00:48:11.220
ramsey started a campaign for the case to be sent to be handled by another agency and for dna samples to
00:48:17.140
be sent to be sent to a private lab to be retested with the latest dna technology as of now the killer
00:48:23.380
has still not been found and no official suspects have been publicly named however supporters investigators
00:48:30.420
and john bonnet's existing family still hold out hope that one day this tragic murder will be solved
00:48:37.300
the case which is considered one of the most notorious unsolved murders in america continues to baffle people
00:48:47.380
crazy crazy crazy crazy man crazy stuff uh very sad um so yeah guys that is the case of john bonnet
00:48:55.220
ramsey as you guys could see many winding turns um i'm glad that the parents were exonerated because
00:49:00.340
that's got to be terrible for you to be parents and be accused of being the killers and i remember as a
00:49:04.180
kid that they they were the prime suspects man in the late 90s early 2000s and obviously with the dna
00:49:09.380
evidence they're able to exonerate them um angie what are your final thoughts
00:49:12.500
um you know what this case just has too many crazy and curious facts you know uh do you know the case
00:49:21.940
of natalie holloway holloway no i never heard of it okay so that's another highly requested as well
00:49:27.940
so apparently um she that was a girl that got missing in naruba in 2005 i think and her mother uh started
00:49:37.460
dating uh john bonnet ramsey because they have like similarities and like in common interests
00:49:46.660
something like that i don't know which is crazy to me that's crazy just like two parents that have
00:49:51.380
missing kids just just up but yeah uh people wanted to know what do you think about the case and who do
00:49:58.740
you think did killed john bonnet i personally i have no clue like there's too many suspects but the
00:50:05.860
problem is that the dna doesn't match so it's like that it is what it is you know but i will think i
00:50:12.740
will argue that the dna doesn't match because the crime scene was contaminated contaminated so true but
00:50:20.020
they did have they did have an unknown male's dna on the victim yeah but it could be anyone
00:50:25.940
well if it was anyone then they could have they could have i mean they could have easily because
00:50:31.460
here's the thing you gotta remember that they didn't have dna evidence like that back when she
00:50:34.740
was killed right you know what i mean like it kind of was around but they didn't really like have it
00:50:39.860
like that so oh no i don't think the family did it i don't know you don't think the family did i don't
00:50:45.860
think so what do you think you think the family did it i don't know i just find weird that why would
00:50:52.100
they have to make a book and give away so many interviews it's just well you got well here's the
00:50:57.700
thing it they got a lot of heat back in the day yeah like it was bad i remember as a kid watching
00:51:03.300
like them on on the news everyone saying that they were the killers i know yeah i know i i mean i can
00:51:10.180
understand that but it's still like it's stupid to make a book for it but yeah but i've seen so many
00:51:15.060
cases like this and nobody does that you know write the book well unless you're oj simpson and
00:51:19.940
then you make it i did it if i did it yeah well i don't know it's just crazy everything is crazy
00:51:27.540
but uh anyway guys hope you guys enjoyed that comment below who you think the killer was
00:51:31.700
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