On this episode of FedReacts, we cover the new movie "Sonic and the Hedgehog" and have a special guest on the show to talk about it. We also react to a documentary that a supporter sent to us.
00:04:48.840And I'll be doing polls weekly so you guys can vote what cases you want to watch the most because I'll be doing, like, the most requested ones.
00:04:56.020And those are going to be the ones that are going to be on the phone.
00:04:58.360So, what's on tap for the future for the people?
00:05:02.320I know Trump is – I mean, I kind of covered Trump on Fresh and Fit.
00:05:05.000But I think you guys might want to cover – want some more coverage of it.
00:05:08.160And on top of that, I'm pretty confident he's going to get indicted this week by the state of Georgia.
00:13:25.940Timmy Ballard is an American anti-human trafficking activist and author.
00:13:28.860He is the founder and former CEO of Operation Underground Railroad, a.k.a.
00:13:32.400former CEO of the Nazarene Fund and the author of several books in the 2023 American action film, Sound of Freedom, starring Jim Caviezel, was inspired by the work of Ballard.
00:13:44.380And here's his LinkedIn, and I was looking more at the professional experience.
00:13:52.280So it shows here from 2001 to 2001, he worked as an officer for the CIA, which – this probably tells me that he might have been assigned to them.
00:14:04.000And then you got here, special agent, recover operator.
00:14:06.880What this really means, guys, is he's a special agent.
00:14:09.640He was an undercover agent when he was there.
00:14:12.340So he was there from September 2002 to December 2013.
00:14:32.900So he – actually, I was on a job for about – well, I started with the agency 2010, guys, and then I came on as an agent in 2013.
00:14:39.760So I was on the job for about two to three months, and then he left.
00:14:43.420But, yeah, investigated crimes under the jurisdiction of DHS include drug smuggling, money laundering, arm smuggling, and human trafficking.
00:14:48.300Spent the majority of his career investigating crimes against children to include cases dealing with sex and sex trafficking, child tourism, and child pornography.
00:14:54.860Was a member of the Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force.
00:14:57.560So more than likely, based off what he was – what he wrote here, guys, he probably spent a majority of his career in what we would call a child porn group, which they're basically – or child exploitation group.
00:15:10.140And their job basically is to go after guys that, you know, possess, distribute, and or create child pornography, if you guys know what I'm saying, which is very heinous.
00:15:20.680I've done a bunch of busts in that when I was on the job.
00:15:23.400I never was in a CP group myself because I never wanted to be involved with looking at it because one of the things is, obviously, you have to go through the evidence, and I said, no, thanks.
00:15:30.900They asked me to be in a CP group, and I said, no.
00:15:32.980But I would always volunteer to be on the takedown teams.
00:15:59.600And also, just so you guys know, the Department of Homeland Security was not a thing in 2002.
00:16:04.900So he either worked for Immigration Naturalization Service or the U.S. Customs Service since he came on in 2002.
00:16:10.500So I'd be curious to see who actually hired him because, as you guys know, in 2003, the Department of Homeland Security was created after 9-11 attacks.
00:16:19.200However, you had Immigration Naturalization Service, AK-INS, and then you had U.S. Customs Service, and then they combined to create ICE, Immigration Customs Enforcement.
00:16:27.020And then underneath ICE, you had Homeland Security Investigations and Removal Enforcement and Removal Operations, ERO.
00:16:34.800So HSI and ERO, both under the umbrella of ICE.
00:16:37.560One does the deportations and the removal of illegal aliens.
00:16:40.140The other one does the criminal investigations.
00:17:13.240Caviziel plays Tim Ballard, a former U.S. government agent who embarks on a mission to rescue children from sex traffickers in Colombia.
00:17:18.740It is produced by Eduardo Verstegui, who also plays a role in the film.
00:17:24.140The plot centers around Ballard's operation on a ground railroad, an anti-sex trafficking organization of films released on July 4, 2023 by Angel Studios and became a sleeper hit.
00:17:31.800It has grossed $168 million against a $14.5 million budget.
00:17:36.200It received mixed reviews from critics, while audience reception has been highly positive.
00:17:51.340And, yeah, before we go ahead and get into this documentary here, which is called The Abolishist Movie, Go Undercover Rescue Kids from Peas and Human Traffickers, let's go ahead and hit some of these chats real fast.
00:18:04.780We got – School Scooter goes, Maren, out here talking about dancing – okay, dancing, if you know what I'm saying – in Colombia at dinner.
00:26:59.360And that right there guys is why I never wanted to be in the CP group because you actually do have to look at the, the evidence and, you know, yeah.
00:27:06.420So nah, man, I mean, it's, it's very, um, satisfying to arrest these guys.
00:27:11.440Cause I'll tell you guys, I've been on several arrest teams when I first got to, so going back in time here, show my age.
00:27:24.160And we had, um, multiple different groups, right?
00:27:26.180Um, I was in a human smuggling slash human trafficking group, which I'm going to talk to you guys about the differences between human trafficking and human smuggling here in a second.
00:27:32.360But, um, that was the first group I was assigned to.
00:27:35.960And, uh, we had three human trafficking groups.
00:27:39.360We had three drugs, drug smuggling slash drug trafficking groups.
00:27:43.440And we had, um, a group called best, which stands for border enforcement security task force.
00:27:48.960Um, which that's a conglomerate of different agencies that work together, uh, to combat border violence, uh, border weapons.
00:27:56.180Um, kidnappings, all that other stuff.
00:28:00.140And then we had a, um, a commercial fraud group, right.
00:28:04.340Who they basically would investigate anything with like, you know, um, counterfeiting fraud, commercial fraud, et cetera, which is a very common crime.
00:28:30.600Child exploitation, which was, um, you know, you had the web County Sheriff's office there.
00:28:35.100Cause Laredo, Texas and web County, um, Laredo police sat there department and they all worked together.
00:28:40.240And then there was one other group that I'm trying to remember, um, what they were probably general smuggling, but either way, we had 10 groups in Laredo.
00:28:47.220So about when I got there, we had like 60 to seven agents, right.
00:29:06.680Cause a lot of times they would do have an undercover agent, talk to some weirdo in another part of Texas, another part of the country.
00:29:11.500They'd come in flying and think that they were going to meet with a kid and we'd take them down or, um, we would go and do a search warrant at someone's house that, you know, had downloaded or had some CP.
00:29:19.900If you guys know what I'm saying, we would go ahead and do a search warrant at their house.
00:29:22.740And then I would, um, be involved in those.
00:29:24.940So typically it was either search warrants, right.
00:29:26.980Which would typically lead to an arrest cause we would find a CP on their computer.
00:29:29.340Then we would arrest them right there.
00:29:30.680Or it was, um, you know, doing, um, you, what you guys would call staying operation.
00:29:35.200We would just call them an undercover operation guy shows up to meet somebody.
00:29:38.860So I typically would always be on these teams, uh, and I was always a part of the arrest team because I was like one of the younger fitter guys.
00:30:03.540But yeah, I was always on these takedown teams guys.
00:30:05.840Uh, because number one, I was enthusiastic about it.
00:30:08.400Number two, I want to take these bastards down.
00:30:09.920And then number three, I was like young and fit.
00:30:11.920So, you know, they always had me on these takedown teams, but it was, uh, it's really satisfying to take these bastards down because a lot of them are sick bastards, man.
00:30:44.180And, uh, subscribe to the channel if you haven't already, please.
00:30:46.600On the background, is there anything we can identify at the scene of rescue and as things were kind of the dust was settling, they realized that they were, they were rescued.
00:30:56.700And this little boy jumps into my arms and I have this moment with him, just crying with him.
00:31:02.560And he says to me, he says, I don't belong here.
00:32:27.300But the sad reality is that the vast majority, probably over 90 percent of those kids out there who are being trafficked, fall outside the purview of the United States or any other developed nation that has a plan.
00:37:12.180So, once they get to the location that they're trying to go to, so in this case with the alien that I said before, the illegal alien, he gets to San Antonio.
00:37:19.000Now, he's got to pay the rest of his fee to be released.
00:37:23.060The human trafficking typically starts, guys, is when they don't have the money to pay, and now they're stuck with that smuggler and they got to pay those fees off, okay?
00:37:32.480So, that's how you go from human smuggling to human trafficking.
00:37:37.200Human smuggling is the illegal movement of undocumented aliens from foreign countries into the United States where they typically pay a smuggling organization to be brought into the United States.
00:37:48.320Once they're in the United States, okay, if they're not able to pay their fees, right, what ends up happening is the human trafficking is done to compensate the smuggler for the fees that they have not been able to receive from the individual, whether the individual himself doesn't have enough money, their family doesn't have enough money, etc.
00:38:08.900And different aliens from different countries pay different fees.
00:38:12.820So, for example, a Chinese national is going to pay about $60,000, $60,000 to $100,000 to come into the United States, to be smuggled in the United States.
00:38:21.140They're going to go from China, you know, through Europe, into Mexico or the Bahamas, etc.
00:38:26.480They're going to go into a transit country.
00:38:28.020Most of the time, it's either Mexico or the Bahamas, somewhere close to the United States, and then they're going to be smuggled in from there, all right?
00:38:33.540An Arab, whether they're from, you know, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, one of these Arab countries, right, that's on the watch list, if you guys know what I'm saying, they'll pay also $60,000, $200,000 a year.
00:38:49.540These are considered exotic aliens, and they have to pay more than someone from, like, a Mexico, a Venezuela, a Guatemala, and Ecuador, etc.
00:38:56.080If you're from South America, you're going to pay less than one of these exotics.
00:39:01.520And if you guys are wondering what constitutes an exotic, an exotic typically is someone who might be an enemy, is from a country that might be an adversary of the United States.
00:39:09.380That's a little, you know, thing that you could keep in the back of your mind.
00:39:13.840And these smugglers know that they can charge more when an individual is from a country that isn't necessarily on the best terms with the United States.
00:39:20.460Why? Because by smuggling in an individual, right, from one of these special interest countries, what ends up happening is the smuggler takes on greater risk, okay, by smuggling in one of these exotics.
00:39:33.580Because if they smuggle in, let's say, you know, Ahmed, and Ahmed decides to go, well, that's going to be a problem because that's going to affect the trade with drug smuggling, with human smuggling, etc.
00:39:46.380The smugglers don't want to disrupt the flow of what's going on.
00:39:49.940And any time a certain attack happens, if you know what I'm saying, it slows down the trade.
00:39:55.540The borders close down, and they're not able to move product across.
00:39:58.840So if they are going to smuggle in one of these exotics, they're going to charge them an arm and a leg to make it happen, right?
00:40:03.680So, guys, give me a once in a chat if that explanation made sense.
00:40:06.900But that is the biggest difference between human smuggling versus human trafficking, okay?
00:40:10.980And the smuggling statute is under 8 U.S.C. 1324, the 8 U.S.C. code, guys, is under the Immigration Naturalization Act, INA.
00:40:19.680And then you've got human trafficking, which is – goddammit, I forget the statute.
00:40:53.200But if they're an adult and they're an actual working girl, if you know what I'm saying, then they can't get them with the human trafficking statute.
00:41:02.360They need to prove that there's threat of violence, coercion, being held against their will, et cetera.
00:41:07.900It's much harder to prove when the individual is not an adult.
00:41:13.000So most of the time, if you see these human trafficking cases that end up happening with working girls, if you know what I'm saying, a lot of the times the girls are underage, which in that case they can't consent.
00:41:21.260And in that case, boom, it's automatically a 1590.
00:42:07.000Unless you work for HSI or FBI and you're in an actual human trafficking group or a human trafficking task force or you've done human smuggling before, you don't know the difference.
00:43:10.300But what I am saying is that a lot of the times what people attribute as human trafficking is actually human smuggling.
00:43:16.140You know, you catch a truck, right, filled with like 100 illegal aliens in there trying to, you know, go to San Antonio or Dallas or something like that.
00:43:32.180Will you say that child pornography is like coming here?
00:43:36.280Giovanna Dostanov goes trafficking the term.
00:43:38.700The reason why one is called trafficking and the other one is called smuggling is because when you're being smuggled, you're paying a service to be smuggled into the United States versus when you're being trafficked, it's against your will now.
00:43:52.040So in one scenario, you're paying to be brought into the United States willingly.
00:44:05.660You're paying for that service to be brought into the United States illegally.
00:44:08.660However, when you're when you're being trafficked, now you are the commodity.
00:44:13.140To pay back a debt that a lot of the times you incurred during your course of human smuggling, human smuggling must occur most of the time prior to human trafficking.
00:44:23.160When we're talking about illegal when we're talking about foreign nationals, if we're talking about American citizens that are here that are being trafficked, that's different.
00:44:29.520But if we're talking about foreign nationals, which is how a lot of the human trafficking occurs, human smuggling needs to occur first where they're brought to the United States illegally through an organization.
00:44:39.620Then the trafficking occurs from there.
00:44:41.900But most of the time, smugglers don't want to be traffickers because it's a very dirty business and you get way more time.
00:44:47.700They just want to drop the alien off to their family, get their money and be done.
00:44:51.980What if what if trafficking is not as common because the United States is just like a transitory country?
00:45:43.640We have some of the strictest immigration laws of all the first world countries.
00:45:47.980And all you guys that are like from England, Canada, et cetera, you guys can speak to that.
00:45:51.960Because when you guys come here, what do we do?
00:45:53.720We check you guys like crazy with the passports.
00:45:56.240If you try to get a visa to come to the United States, ask you a bunch of questions.
00:45:58.880We have some of the strictest immigration laws.
00:46:00.500So if people move people into the United States, nine out of ten times they want them to stay here.
00:46:04.720The only time I've ever seen people come through the United States and actually not stay here are Sri Lankans because they want to go to Toronto.
00:46:10.680Toronto has the highest concentration of Sri Lankans anywhere else in the world.
00:46:15.940But most of the time they come to the United States, they're trying to stay here.
00:47:25.500But in general, you're smuggled in illegally through an organization.
00:47:29.580And then if you can't pay, a lot of times what ends up happening is trafficking after that to pay off your debt.
00:47:33.880OK, OK, now give me one's in the chat, if that makes sense.
00:47:40.840And then we'll continue on with the documentary because it's very important for you guys to understand the difference between trafficking and smuggling.
00:48:19.920All of you guys that just put one in the chat.
00:48:21.660You guys literally know more than 90% plus of law enforcement professionals who never do human smuggling and or human trafficking investigations and are completely confused of the difference between the two.
00:49:14.540And he even said it here, guys, just to bring you guys back to the documentary.
00:49:17.460He's saying that human trafficking is mostly human trafficking, especially with children, occurs outside of the United States, which is a big reason why he wanted.
00:49:25.320He left the government so that he could pursue this because he can't save every kid only enforcing U.S. laws.
00:49:31.140Guys, remember, a lot of the times it needs to affect U.S. commerce for us to effectively go after that individual for human trafficking.
00:49:37.080And a lot of it occurs out of the United States.
00:49:39.140Most of it occurs out of the United States.
00:49:42.300Maybe it's my responsibility to leave the government and take the tools I've learned and apply them as a private individual, as a private organization.
00:49:51.680It's called Operation Underground Railroad, a foundation, a legal organization to go after these kids and work with foreign governments that need help, empower them, bring them the tools.
00:50:03.240And a lot of these foreign governments don't have the, you know, the sophistication, the techniques, the agents, the law enforcement personnel, the technology to be able to go ahead and act to these traffickers in an aggressive fashion like we do in the United States.
00:50:15.580Them, the heroes, teach them how to continue rescuing kids long after we're gone, to create a revolution against this great plague that infects the entire world, this plague of child trafficking.
00:50:33.240Hey, guys, do me a favor, man, because I'm giving you a lot of sauce on this stream.
00:53:00.760If it doesn't affect interstate commerce, well, there's no U.S. statute that you can use to enforce.
00:53:05.940So are they going to be interested in prosecuting it?
00:53:07.900So there's a lot of politics, a lot of bureaucracy when it comes to doing some of these cases, guys.
00:53:13.540And, you know, and you guys already know a majority of these, you know, these trafficking cases with children don't necessarily occur in the United States.
00:53:21.300So if you want to make the biggest impact, you've got to do it privately.
00:53:23.780And I think that's a big reason why Tim Ballard decided to go and do this on his own privately versus doing it through the U.S. government,
00:53:30.020because you can only do so much being a federal agent.
00:53:31.920And then on top of that, you've got to, you know, you've got to operate within the confinements because so first you've got to operate within the confinements of the U.S. law.
00:53:39.300Right. Then on top of that, you've got to operate within the confinements of DOJ policy.
00:53:46.240And then underneath that, you've got to work within the confinements of HSI policy.
00:53:50.520So as you guys can see, see how that window shrunk as I continue to go through and talk about where you can what confinements you can work in?
00:53:56.540So you've got you've got U.S. law, then you've got DOJ policy, then you've got HSI policy, which is the most restrictive.
00:54:02.200So you can only do so much as a federal agent. Right.
00:54:05.420And and I think that in the movie, they talk about this a bit more.
00:54:08.740I don't want to give it away. They dramatize it a bit.
00:54:10.460But regardless, you know, I could definitely see his perspective here where you can't save everybody.
00:54:16.820And it sucks, especially if you can't that you get the U.S. attorney's office on board.
00:54:21.180I've talked to you guys before extensively about being a Fed and working with the United States attorney's office.
00:54:25.780It's not the same as when you're like, you know, a state trooper or a local police officer working with the ADA.
00:54:31.660ADA's take any case that comes their way.
00:54:33.740AUSA's do not take every case that comes their way.
00:54:36.360You guys want me to explain the difference between an AUSA and an ADA?
00:54:38.920Give me a one in the chat. If you guys don't want me to, give me a two in the chat and we'll continue on.
00:54:42.480One in the chat. If you guys want me to explain the difference between an ADA and an AUSA?
00:54:46.120Or if you guys already know, because I've explained it a bunch of times, give me a two and we'll continue on with the documentary.
00:55:06.540Okay, guys, you got two different types of prosecutors, right?
00:55:08.560You got assistant United States attorney and you got an assistant district attorney, right?
00:55:12.020Assistant district attorney is for the state.
00:55:13.960Assistant United States attorney is for the feds, okay?
00:55:15.920So the ADA works under somebody called the district attorney, a.k.a. the DA.
00:55:20.280And then the AUSA works under someone called the USA, a.k.a. the United States attorney, okay?
00:55:24.700So both are prosecutors, but one prosecutes at a federal level, one prosecutes at a state level.
00:55:29.480So DUIs, domestic violence, murder cases, kidnapping, all the state statutes, right, that are enforced by local law enforcement, whether it's city police, municipal police, sheriff's offices, state police, etc.
00:55:58.060And AUSA, on the other hand, well, a little bit more luxury there.
00:56:01.220You can go ahead and pick and choose the case that you want to take.
00:56:03.440The average AUSA in the United States carries somewhere between 10 to 15 federal cases.
00:56:09.080And there's a reason why the feds don't lose.
00:56:10.860The reason why the feds don't lose is because the feds carefully select which cases they want to take, okay?
00:56:15.540So the federal prosecutor is taking cases from the FBI, DEA, HSI, ATF, etc.
00:56:21.700Now, in some rare cases, the feds of AUSA will take a case from a state investigator.
00:56:27.380So, like, maybe a state police, a state trooper, a state investigator, whatever.
00:56:30.360Sometimes the feds will go ahead and present, will take a case that comes from the state.
00:56:34.660However, that local or state officer a lot of times is what you would call a task force officer, which means they're deputized to go ahead and enforce federal law.
00:56:45.540So that's a guy that has authority in both the state and federal, and he works for both agencies.
00:56:51.160His home agency might be, let's say, the state police in this example, but they also have an HSI badge or a DEA badge, and they're deputized to go ahead and enforce federal laws under which the federal agency they work for, okay?
00:57:01.620But that is the main difference between AUSAs, federal attorneys, and ADAs, assisted district attorneys.
00:57:28.220So let's say I'm a part of the mafia and I decide to go kill a bunch of people in furtherance of the mafia.
00:57:32.380Well, now I can be tried for murder under racketeering because that crime was in furtherance of racketeering activity for a gang, but it tied in with another federal crime.
00:57:42.500Or if I rob a bank, that's a federal crime, and I kill someone.
00:57:45.960But when we're talking about typical premeditated murder where, you know, I killed somebody because they pissed me off, like in the YNWMLE case, et cetera, that's always going to be a state case.
00:57:54.880The feds almost never investigate murder unless there's some type of extenuating circumstance.
00:58:52.900It's not uncommon for a state attorney to have a high-profile murder case and then also be doing a bunch of stupid DUIs and disorderly conducts.
00:59:00.860Someone put a two, but it said Angie's accent.
01:02:56.420If you get caught with a firearm, right, and you're a felon, there's a state statute for it with all the 50 states, but then there's also the federal statute.
01:03:05.660So, the state could prosecute you, but if the state wants, right, or let's say the feds are interested in it, right, you could say, hey, guys, listen, because this would happen a lot of the times, right?
01:03:14.160There was a guy, I'll give you guys, you know what, let's go with professional experience, right?
01:03:18.100There was a time where we were investigating a drug trafficking organization, right?
01:03:26.540There was this guy who was a convicted felon, right?
01:03:28.760And he got caught with a gun by one of the county deputies, right?
01:03:34.960So, they had charged him with felon in possession of a firearm, right?
01:03:40.760Me and my partner from ATF, who were investigating this drug trafficking organization, knew who this guy was, and we knew that he had information on one of the main targets.
01:03:48.600Our investigation was a large-scale wholesale supplier of methamphetamine in the area, right?
01:03:53.460So, we said, yo, look, this guy probably isn't going to be that scared of a felon in possession charge if it comes from the state.
01:04:02.380So, they're like, okay, cool, we'll drop our state charges, and then you can go ahead and come in and get them federal, because you can't charge them twice for the same crime, right?
01:04:11.860So, they drop the state case, he gets released from the jail, and guess who's there?
01:04:18.220And we're like, oh, okay, we have a warfare arrest here, felon in possession of a firearm, 18 U.S.C. 9-20-20-2-G.
01:04:23.800The fucking, the melanin from his face just disappeared, right?
01:04:28.100Because he thought the case got dropped, he was good to go, yeah, I'm great.
01:04:32.660Nah, we went ahead and got him for a felon in possession of a firearm.
01:04:35.880We actually made it a little bit worse, because he was a former service member, and he got a dishonorable discharge from the military.
01:04:41.900So, we decided instead of hitting him with a felon in possession of a firearm, we went ahead and hit him with a, damn it, what's the term for it?
01:04:51.680A prohibited person, right, being in possession of a firearm, because by getting a discharge from the military, a dishonorable discharge, you get kicked out, which I think, let's see here.
01:05:05.3209-20-2-G-6 is exactly what we charged him with.
01:05:08.020He's been discharged from the armed forces under dishonorable conditions.
01:05:10.700He was selling drugs when he was in the Navy.
01:05:12.500So, we went ahead and contacted NCIS and asked him, hey, give us the guy's records.
01:05:16.660So, we went ahead and got him with not just the found of possession, but we got him, rather, for being a prohibited person in possession of a firearm by being a member of the services that was hit with a dishonorable discharge.
01:05:25.960So, obviously, the fucking, you know, skin color left his face, and he was terrified because the feds had him, right?
01:05:31.400And we were able to get him to cooperate with us in the drug investigation.
01:05:36.860I say all this to say that, yes, the feds can come in, and there are federal statutes that are also state statutes as well, and you can go ahead and hit them with the federal side, but you typically have to get the blessing from the state to take the case federal because they're the ones that charge first.
01:05:49.620And, you know, you want to have a good working relationship.
01:05:51.180This stuff in the movies, they tell you, oh, we're the feds, we're coming in, and we're going to take over.
01:05:56.700None of that, that's a bunch of fucking bullshit.
01:06:00.880The state can always tell you, go pound sand, we're not going to defer our case to you, or we're not going to drop our case so that you can pursue yours, okay?
01:06:07.860And a lot of times, the AUSA, our federal prosecutor, is not going to step on the toes of an ADA.
01:06:11.700That's not the way things go a lot of the times.
01:06:13.720So, you know, you got to work with your state and local partners and have a good relationship.
01:06:18.740And luckily for me, I had a good relationship with this ADA, and I said, hey, look, we want to take this case federal.
01:06:32.720He gets released from the jail thinking that it's all good, hunky-dory, and then we're waiting for him with an arrest warrant, and we take him federal, right?
01:06:38.940So that's an example of how a state case can go federal, but it's not like what you guys see in the movies.
01:06:44.580Typically, the two agencies are working together and making it happen alongside each other, right?
01:06:50.700Give me one in the chat if that made sense for y'all.
01:06:53.160Give me one in the chat, and we'll go back to this.
01:06:57.480...different passports, Canadian passports.
01:06:59.740When I go down to these countries to pick up the money, you know, I was just out of control.
01:07:04.980I was using drugs, doing all the things that I'm so against now.
01:07:09.180When I realized what God was calling me to, I was sitting in an orphanage that is in the middle of a red light zone in Mexico that was filled with the sons and daughters and the prostitutes, and I was talking to a 10-year-old and a 12-year-old girl, and they were sharing the stories of what had happened in their life.
01:07:24.780One of those girls, Lupita, was 10 years old at the time, and as she was sharing, I asked her, you know, what about your mom?
01:07:29.900And she said, well, my mother was the one that would allow her boyfriends.
01:07:33.720Real quick, Jalen Walker goes, two, so what you just explained about the process of moving a state-level crime to a federal is how Jack Smith was able to charge Trump at the federal level.
01:07:41.960No, not necessarily because there's not really – I mean, some states have it, but I don't think that there's really state statutes for federal voting violations.
01:07:54.060I mean, I think George is going to charge him with something, but every state might not have that on the books.
01:07:58.300So, with the Jackson – and don't worry, guys, I'm going to go ahead and explain the Trump case for y'all in the future because there's a bunch of charges he's getting hit with, but I will definitely cover it in the future, so stay tuned.
01:08:10.580To come to our house and touch me, and she would put pornographic movies on, and I would have to do whatever was happening in those movies with her boyfriends.
01:08:18.660And the next girl started to share that her life fell apart when she got raped, which became a regular thing in her life because her mother was a prostitute in the red light zone.
01:08:30.120And it was extremely convicting because her mother was a prostitute in the same red light zone where I used to spend nights and sometimes weeks.
01:08:41.480That's where I was working out of at the time.
01:08:43.620And I went back to the hotel that night, and I literally cried myself to sleep because I realized that what if I had hired this girl's mother for the night?
01:08:52.680And because I was with the mother, she was left alone, unprotected, and was raped.
01:09:00.320See, so here you got a guy that's involved in drug trafficking, money laundering, et cetera, with some of the worst people, but even he feels bad for this stuff.
01:09:07.200So, Matt, even if you're a criminal, you still understand how deplorable it is to be involved in crimes that hurt children.
01:09:15.240I had a razor blade ready to take my life, and I had heard about God.
01:12:47.360And you guys got to remember that like a lot of these kids, right, like went through really traumatic times and they're not, you know, after they survive an ordeal like this, like it messes them up for life, man.
01:13:02.360So you start to get a little bit of antisocial behavior.
01:13:17.360Antisocial behavior, you start to not trust maybe adults when you talk to them, et cetera.
01:13:35.360And also like kids that go through these kind of traumas, they it's very difficult for them to speak.
01:13:41.360Like it's like the hardest thing for them to do is like speak because they have such trust issues from their abusers that it's very hard for them to like even talk like simple stuff.
01:13:53.360This girl's talking like quite well, but like people that go through these traumas, it's just very hard for them to talk, to communicate.
01:14:00.360Yeah. So, you know, that might, that's why guys, some of this body language might be a bit off to you, but you guys got to remember that this child survived extreme trauma.
02:28:33.640so tim's playing the role too he's saying hey which one y'all call the police etc because their job now is to start making the traffickers look like they were involved because remember guys the traffickers might know each other somewhat but they don't know what you know it's not going to be a lot of the police