The Debrief With MyronGainesX - Fed Explains YNW Melly Murder Trial

00:00:00.600 All right. What's up, guys? We're doing something a little bit different. This is the audible audible. All right. So pretty much, guys, I'm going to go ahead and pull up this Mellie trial that's going right now.

00:00:12.240 They have an FBI agent actually testifying right now. And this FBI agent specializes in cell phone location data.

00:00:19.760 So I'm going to go ahead and start reacting to this thing right now while it's live. Let's see what happens. All right. Let's say I know this is impromptu. You're probably like, what's going on here?

00:00:28.600 So y'all want to Mellie? Let's do it live.

00:00:58.600 I've had the opportunity to validate your history.

00:01:01.780 We do it live, guys. We do it live. Let's follow in. I'm about to do an IG story. We live now. Let's watch this baby.

00:01:06.380 So we're going to call data reconstructions. What are the things you do?

00:01:09.900 I'm going to break down for y'all what's going on here in a little bit.

00:01:12.520 Yes.

00:01:13.040 And how do you do that?

00:01:13.820 Well, as we mentioned sort of during the, when I was talking about the train-up, if it's a situation, a case where we're trying to find someone who we believe is in possession of a crime and you do an analysis and you say,

00:01:27.620 I think we need to go to this house and go there and the person and the phone are there, that's validation.

00:01:31.620 If you, if we have a case where we have some sort of other evidence that corroborates it, okay, crimes against children case, and there's that data on media that was produced at a specific location,

00:01:46.380 and the cell site that says, okay, I would know this film or something that was produced here, and here's what the cell site looks like, and that corroborates it.

00:01:52.860 So when you say metadata, can you explain what that is?

00:01:57.580 Yeah, that's outside of what I do with CAS, but that would be something that would be in a media file, perhaps, that somebody else would extract the file from using a physical extraction device or a computer or some other device.

00:02:15.360 Sometimes there's metadata embedded within the image or video or whatever that will tell you different things, such as when.

00:02:21.820 All right, just so you guys know, real quick, for some of you guys that are piling in right now, and I'll give you all a reminder real quick.

00:02:27.360 I am reacting right now to the YNW Mellie case.

00:02:29.740 As you guys know, he's on trial right now, live, and down here in South Florida for murder.

00:02:34.760 The person that's on the stand right now is an FBI agent that specializes in cell phone location data, okay?

00:02:40.660 So, yeah, we're just going to, I'll pause this as needed, break things down for y'all, but this is an FBI agent that's testifying right now to cell phone location data

00:02:48.960 because he had done probably the forensics for that case.

00:02:51.060 So, let's get back into it.

00:02:58.080 I think they're, what's going on here?

00:03:01.120 Someone's going on.

00:03:01.820 I'm going to refresh.

00:03:02.560 They messed up over here at Law and Crime Network, probably.

00:03:07.140 All right.

00:03:09.520 So, I think they had a camera issue.

00:03:12.240 Yeah, they're having technical difficulties.

00:03:24.420 I'm not surprised.

00:03:25.140 This is, you know, this is a state here, guys.

00:03:26.780 You know, they're always going to have mess ups, et cetera.

00:03:28.780 But, yeah.

00:03:29.760 So, while they get this stuff fixed up.

00:03:31.920 So, basically, guys, I was at the chiropractor, right?

00:03:34.060 And I saw that an FBI agent took the stand to talk about the cell phone stuff.

00:03:38.360 And I was like, you know what, bro?

00:03:39.120 Let's go live right now.

00:03:40.000 Like, this is too good to not cover.

00:03:43.420 But as you guys know, give y'all a quick little summary of what went down so far.

00:03:47.420 They've had a couple of people come up and testify.

00:03:49.480 Mellie's girlfriend's mom has testified where, you know, she wasn't cooperating so much with the prosecution.

00:03:54.100 They had some of the forensic guys that went ahead and analyzed the vehicle, testify.

00:03:59.940 I think right before this, they had a detective testify.

00:04:03.200 And right now, they got an FBI agent testifying that specializes in cell phone location data, which is very important.

00:04:10.100 Because as you guys know, this case is heavily reliant upon the cell phone location data on Mellie's phone.

00:04:19.100 Just to give you guys a quick little recap of the case.

00:04:20.880 Mellie's on trial right now for the double homicide of his two friends.

00:04:25.160 The friends were killed in a rural area in Miramar, Florida, which is about, you know, 30, 40 minutes from here down here in Miami, up in Broward County.

00:04:33.620 And Mellie and his friend, Y&W Bortland, okay, a.k.a. Cortland Henry, they alleged that they had been shot during a drive-by shooting.

00:04:41.600 However, the bullets are on the right side of the vehicle, but the bullet trajectory and the forensics show that the people were wounded from their left, okay?

00:04:51.840 And I'll show you real quick, guys, here, the vehicle assortment of how they had this.

00:04:57.820 Give me one second here.

00:04:59.020 I'm doing this on the fly, guys.

00:05:00.200 We do it live.

00:05:00.760 So, let me see if I can pick this.

00:05:08.140 Okay, so, bam.

00:05:08.840 So, you see here, right, guys?

00:05:14.160 This is how they were seated in the vehicle, right?

00:05:18.440 If I can enlarge this thing.

00:05:20.540 Let me just.

00:05:21.160 All right, so, Mellie was in the back left seat right here, all right?

00:05:29.440 This is Y&W Bortland.

00:05:30.740 He was in the driver's seat.

00:05:32.120 Then you got Zach Chaser, and I think this guy's name is Chris down here.

00:05:35.780 But, so, the bullets, right, for the vehicle, when the police showed up on, when the police looked at the car,

00:05:42.360 the bullets were all on the right-hand side of the vehicle like this, none on the left-hand side.

00:05:46.280 However, the two victims' wounds were where?

00:05:49.020 On their left, which means they were shot from this direction, okay?

00:05:52.540 So, pretty much the forensics has proven that the fatal gunshot wounds came from inside the vehicle,

00:05:58.860 from the left-hand side, based on the wounds and based on the stippling, okay?

00:06:03.140 What is stippling?

00:06:03.760 Stippling, guys, is when you have burn marks on you from close range, from a firearm being shot at you close range, okay?

00:06:12.160 It creates, like, a burn, and some of that gunshot residue, et cetera, gets on you when it hits the skin from a close distance.

00:06:18.920 So, there was stippling on both of these individuals, and it was very obvious that they had been shot from their left,

00:06:23.920 not from their right, as Mellie and Bortland tried to say from a drive-by shooting, okay?

00:06:28.920 Now, Mellie, during the whole time, had his cell phone with him.

00:06:32.600 And with the cell phone, the police were able to pretty much pinpoint his location of where he was the whole time,

00:06:37.580 which contradicted what he had told the police before.

00:06:39.360 You know, he had said that he had driven with another friend to another location,

00:06:42.600 but the cell phone data showed that that was not true, guys, all right?

00:06:46.460 So, okay, so right now, Brendan Collins, FBI special agent, he is the one that's testifying right now.

00:06:52.060 So, let's go back to the trial.

00:06:55.120 And he specializes in cell phone location data.

00:06:58.080 Well, if you're being asked to do, like, a location analysis, in other words, to the case involves trying to determine

00:07:04.760 where a particular device was at a certain point in time, nearly three things that you need.

00:07:10.540 First, you need the records for that particular device.

00:07:13.220 That will say that a little of the initial records, like a call detail record, for instance,

00:07:19.540 will sort of look like a billing statement that you might get a number of comments that will say,

00:07:23.040 you know, this state of time, this phone number, place this call to this other number, et cetera.

00:07:29.480 Except it will also have additional information that will say a cell tower that the phone connected to,

00:07:35.160 what it made when I called.

00:07:36.060 So, you need that record of the device.

00:07:39.620 You also need a record of the power of locations that says, okay, the power of the phone connected to

00:07:43.780 is located at this particular point on the earth.

00:07:47.280 You put those two things together into some sort of mapping software and plot it,

00:07:51.800 and that will give you a general area of where the device was at the time that it connected to that power.

00:07:56.140 So, you said device.

00:07:58.180 Can you testify to a specific person within a specific area?

00:08:02.480 No.

00:08:03.020 Why not?

00:08:03.460 Because the records I have are just about devices.

00:08:07.940 Okay.

00:08:08.540 So, there are limitations to your testimony.

00:08:11.040 Yeah, absolutely.

00:08:11.600 Yeah, talking about devices, not people.

00:08:14.380 Have you received any specialized training to become an agent that does CAST as well?

00:08:20.360 What is that?

00:08:21.920 QD CAST certified is pretty extensive.

00:08:24.220 There's several stages that the certification process is broken into.

00:08:29.680 The first, I started my initial training in 2017.

00:08:35.000 The first phase of training is the CAST basic course.

00:08:38.720 That's a two- or three-day course where agents and officers from are.

00:08:44.500 All right.

00:08:44.920 Just so you guys know, the reason why the prosecutor is asking him these questions,

00:08:48.060 this is what you call direct examination.

00:08:49.720 He's a government witness, or in this case, a state witness.

00:08:51.600 So, the prosecutor is asking him questions to understand his training and experience,

00:08:55.600 why he's qualified to speak on this.

00:08:56.920 He's being brought in right now as a subject matter expert on this trial.

00:09:00.140 He's not necessarily the investigating case detective in this,

00:09:03.940 but the FBI was brought in to help analyze the phone location data,

00:09:08.440 and having a subject expert witness a lot of times helps with explaining how this all works.

00:09:14.300 The local state or other federal agencies are exposed to what cellular analysis is

00:09:20.320 and how to do it at the basic level.

00:09:23.520 Do you use the CAST work in your day-to-day cases before you became a supervisor?

00:09:29.720 Yes.

00:09:31.100 And so in-

00:09:32.100 So, at the time that he did this phone stuff, guys, he was a regular agent,

00:09:36.560 but now he's a GS-14, which means he's a supervisor.

00:09:39.160 He doesn't carry a case anymore.

00:09:40.120 But since he was involved back in 2018, remember, guys, this was almost five years ago.

00:09:43.220 So, he's a supervisor now.

00:09:45.280 Is this a-

00:09:46.140 Which means he does not carry cases.

00:09:47.740 Is this a required assignment to go to the CAST team?

00:09:53.160 Oh.

00:09:53.640 Is this a-

00:09:54.280 No, no.

00:09:54.840 I wanted to interrupt, but there's a lot more training than just that two-day thing.

00:09:59.160 Is that okay?

00:09:59.800 Oh, well, let's start with, to do that first two-day training.

00:10:03.220 Yeah.

00:10:03.560 Is that mandatory?

00:10:04.820 Yes.

00:10:05.040 Yeah.

00:10:06.000 To go on past that, is that something you have to apply for?

00:10:11.140 Yes.

00:10:11.920 Yeah.

00:10:12.320 Okay.

00:10:12.640 And to explain, after that first initial training, what happens?

00:10:15.720 What's the next level of training?

00:10:16.900 So, the next course is called the advanced course.

00:10:19.900 It's a week-long course.

00:10:21.600 And that's just a more in-depth dive into each of the networks.

00:10:24.480 So, specifically, what are the weaknesses of, say, Verizon or T-Mobile,

00:10:29.020 like, QT, Sprint, when it was a standalone provider, what their records look like,

00:10:33.540 what are the weaknesses of their, where their network's designed, et cetera.

00:10:37.120 After the advanced course, then we'd have a sort of test, it's like a week-long, when I went

00:10:44.380 through, it was a mix of part in the classroom and part in the field, where it's all scenario-based.

00:10:49.380 So, for instance, you'd be like a kid back in scenario.

00:10:53.640 Like, hey, this child was abducted, would be your job as the pass they're going through

00:10:58.640 to try and use the records to develop the search locations.

00:11:01.220 And, yeah, I think that we need to go here to try and encourage a child.

00:11:05.220 You need to push in the classroom, you need to push in the real world, where they have test rooms

00:11:09.720 at different locations, and you validate the results right there, so you either find the, you know,

00:11:14.980 the person, or it would, at the end, either pass or fail.

00:11:18.560 So, I passed, and I was allowed to continue to do a certification course, which is a four-week course.

00:11:24.480 And, again, I know, guys, this might be redundant or boring or whatever, but he's explaining all this

00:11:42.840 to show that he's qualified to what he's about to testify later.

00:11:45.640 He's basically laying the foundation to let the jury know, let the audience know that he is qualified

00:11:51.960 because he's probably going to go ahead and give testimony to verify the location data.

00:11:56.780 And this is extremely important for the prosecution, guys, because the prosecution needs to link

00:12:01.100 Mellie to the murder.

00:12:01.840 So far right now in this trial, they've shown, you know, wound patterns, they've shown shootings,

00:12:06.020 they've shown that they were basically shot in the vehicle, but they haven't been able to

00:12:08.760 effectively link Mellie, right, to the shooting because there's plausible deniability.

00:12:12.560 Like, oh, we don't know if Mellie was the one that actually shot him because we don't have

00:12:15.060 the murder weapon, et cetera.

00:12:16.520 So, what they're going to do, right, with this witness, more than likely, in my estimation,

00:12:20.060 is they're going to go ahead and use this FBI agent, who's an expert with cell location

00:12:25.300 data, to prove that Mellie was, in fact, at the scene at the time of the crime and the

00:12:29.880 shooting when his friends were murdered in that rural area in Miramar, Florida.

00:12:33.820 Representatives from all the major cell phone providers in the U.S., both their law enforcement

00:12:39.760 relations and records custodians, personnel, we talked about that these are the types of records

00:12:45.140 that we keep in our specific record, which in our specific company, we also bring in personnel

00:12:52.140 from there, the network engineers, so the people who build the network, who design it, to go

00:12:57.140 to infrastructures, the sprints, network operations that are really able to see an entry

00:13:02.380 of the whole network across the country, et cetera, and then, at the end of that, there's a test

00:13:07.140 that you need to pass, are certified, or you can yell.

00:13:11.960 Okay, so, Special Agent Collins, are you certified in CAST analysis?

00:13:16.420 Yes.

00:13:16.940 How long have you held that certification for?

00:13:19.400 I got certified in September of 2018.

00:13:22.740 Is there continuing education or recertification that's required?

00:13:26.880 Yes.

00:13:27.720 So, he got certified in September 2018.

00:13:30.560 The Mellie murder ended up going down, what, guys, in October?

00:13:33.200 And I don't think they arrested Mellie until around February 2019, so he had his certification

00:13:38.020 for a few months, probably, by the time they brought him the phones and got them involved,

00:13:41.820 et cetera.

00:13:42.580 You can have certification every year.

00:13:44.320 You can attend a recertification course.

00:13:47.680 Okay.

00:13:48.560 Is all of the training specifically from the FDF?

00:13:52.080 No.

00:13:52.920 What other agencies and, I guess, companies do the training for you?

00:13:58.140 Yes, we have partnerships, or not partnerships, but we'll bring in educators from a lot of

00:14:05.180 different companies.

00:14:06.040 So, obviously, the different telecommunications companies are critical.

00:14:11.360 So, we have them come to the recertification contracts every year.

00:14:16.480 We'll bring in other people.

00:14:17.960 We've had Apple, Volcom, Oracle, people with GPS, cell engineering, vehicles, or vehicle telepathics.

00:14:27.140 Anybody that's sort of involved in that ecosystem?

00:14:30.740 Okay.

00:14:31.020 So, you've mentioned Apple, Qualcomm.

00:14:33.300 What are those?

00:14:35.260 Those are different manufacturers.

00:14:38.340 Is there also specific as to cellular technology and how it works training on that?

00:14:46.240 For what?

00:14:47.420 In terms of being a CAST certification?

00:14:50.800 After recertification?

00:14:52.000 Yes.

00:14:52.200 Yes.

00:14:52.480 Okay.

00:14:52.880 How long have you been specializing in call, detail, records, and EMS?

00:14:59.560 I'm going to give the donor a copy of the order that was discussed about the report that

00:15:05.880 was done by Judge Siegel.

00:15:07.300 All right.

00:15:07.460 So, I'm going to fast forward to make sure that we're current here.

00:15:10.320 Okay.

00:15:11.580 We are going to object to the immiscibility of the CAST report.

00:15:15.200 We have circulated to his testimony after deposing him.

00:15:19.520 And then I will also bring to the record, she's trying to bring in three different CAST reports. 0.97

00:15:25.140 When we had deposed Agent Collins, we only had deposed him as to one CAST report.

00:15:31.320 We had extensive conversations about whether the state would be bringing in the additional

00:15:37.160 CAST reports.

00:15:38.040 We had agreed at that time, if they were going to bring in those reports, she would let us

00:15:42.860 know, and we would depose him again.

00:15:45.000 That never happened.

00:15:46.240 We were always told it would be for one report of the two phone numbers.

00:15:51.120 Objecting to the immiscibility.

00:15:52.600 And which we are objecting to the immiscibility of those reports based on Hennessy.

00:15:57.620 Also, they are misleading, and also the information in those reports have not been properly validated

00:16:06.300 by an engineer.

00:16:10.280 Okay.

00:16:11.120 So, as of April 4, 2022, what report was in existence as far as Special Agent Collins?

00:16:19.660 So, the first one that was with regards to Anthony Williams' cell phone, as well as Mr.

00:16:27.140 I'll give you guys an explanation of what's going on here in a second.

00:16:30.640 That one was done.

00:16:31.520 The other reports were out there.

00:16:32.960 The other ones were generated in May of 2022, and immediately turned over to Defense Council,

00:16:39.280 and I have a very different recollection of that.

00:16:41.900 This was listed at the same time as Mr. Zeller that we just had, so there was never any additional

00:16:49.260 office request to depose this witness.

00:16:52.560 But, so Agent Collins has been available for the last hour long, if they had so chose to

00:17:00.020 do so.

00:17:01.020 And Judge, I would just for the record of making an objection to her characterizing that particular

00:17:05.940 phone that is actually registered to the J.P. team as Mr. Clinton's job, and I'm afraid

00:17:10.560 that has been established.

00:17:11.560 Thank you.

00:17:12.560 So, what is the report?

00:17:13.560 Judge, I'm sorry.

00:17:14.560 I didn't hear what you said.

00:17:15.560 I asked for the report.

00:17:16.560 I need to know what the report says.

00:17:17.560 I'm not familiar with it.

00:17:18.560 Yes, sir.

00:17:19.560 So, they're all substantial.

00:17:20.560 So, as you guys can see, Meli's over here on the left-hand side.

00:17:21.560 This is the prosecutor right here in the green, guys.

00:17:22.560 She's the one that's trying the case, right?

00:17:23.560 She's the lead prosecutor on this.

00:17:24.560 This is probably either another prosecutor or maybe an aide.

00:17:28.560 And then you've got these three individuals right here are Meli's lawyers.

00:17:41.560 So, what they're basically trying to do right now, guys, is they're trying to challenge this

00:17:47.560 phone location data stuff.

00:17:49.560 And I'm not surprised they are because this is damn critical evidence for the prosecution's

00:17:54.560 case, because that's what effectively puts Meli at the crime scene. 1.00

00:17:56.560 This is the characterization that it's Mr. Giddenspone and Mr. Widdenspone, actually.

00:18:24.560 And, yes, guys, this trial is live right now as we speak up in, I think they're doing

00:18:29.560 this trial in Fort Lauderdale, Broward County.

00:18:31.560 So, about 40 minutes from here in Miami.

00:18:37.560 You can see the gallery of all the people.

00:18:38.560 Packed courthouse here.

00:18:40.560 Well, for obvious reasons, right?

00:18:43.560 On this side, I think it's probably Meli's supporters and family, right?

00:18:47.560 Look at this guy looking at the camera.

00:18:48.560 He's like, hey, what the hell are y'all looking at?

00:18:52.560 So, this is probably family, friends, fans, etc.

00:18:55.560 And then, more than likely, on the other side is the family of the victim.

00:19:00.560 So, this right here is probably Meli's supporters on this side.

00:19:02.560 And for those of you that are joining us right now, on the stand, they have an FBI special

00:19:17.560 agent that specializes in phone location data, guys.

00:19:21.560 That is the expert witness that they have on the stand right now, where I think in day

00:19:26.560 five of the trial, if I'm not mistaken.

00:19:28.560 And there's been a couple of people that have hit the stand so far.

00:19:31.560 But right now, what the prosecution is focusing on is effectively tying Meli to the murderer,

00:19:35.560 putting him at the scene of the crime.

00:19:36.560 Because all they've done at this point is show that the individuals are murdered.

00:19:40.560 They were shot on the left side.

00:19:41.560 There was stipling.

00:19:43.560 The gunshots definitely came from inside the vehicle, etc., etc.

00:19:46.560 They show the surveillance footage as well, which I'll pull up that for you guys as well

00:19:50.560 right now while we wait for these people to get this going.

00:19:57.560 And this is how court is, guys.

00:19:58.560 It's boring a lot of the times like this.

00:19:59.560 When you're doing trial, etc., you know what I mean?

00:20:01.560 You're going back and forth, you know, making sure everything is, you know, right

00:20:05.560 and everything else like that.

00:20:06.560 So, yeah, it's not going to be super exciting all the time.

00:20:09.560 But while we wait for these lawyers to get their shit together, as you can see,

00:20:12.560 here's the FBI agent right here on the stand, right?

00:20:16.560 He's under oath.

00:20:17.560 He's obviously going to give his testimony as an expert with phone location data.

00:20:21.560 But the defense right now is trying to challenge him because this evidence right here that they're

00:20:26.560 going to talk about is critical to the case because it puts Mellie to see him.

00:20:29.560 And what it means as to the location of the cellular devices based on the records,

00:20:35.560 which is all done as a product of the accuracy of the records and the fact that the cell phone

00:20:44.560 communicates in a consistent way based on the laws of physics with a cell phone talent.

00:20:51.560 You see, in here, it talks about the phone 772-713-9807.

00:21:03.560 T-Mobile says Jamel Demons.

00:21:05.560 This goes below 954-248-9081.

00:21:10.560 T-Mobile, Anthony Williams.

00:21:12.560 It has the date of the report being May 12, 2022.

00:21:17.560 Yes, sir.

00:21:19.560 So this report date is after the order date?

00:21:24.560 It is.

00:21:25.560 That is the second.

00:21:26.560 It's the same one.

00:21:27.560 It was all done at the same time.

00:21:29.560 I believe, if I'm not mistaken, there was a typo that had to be finished on the spelling of the defendant's name,

00:21:35.560 which is why it was generated at a second time on that point.

00:21:40.560 All right, so as you guys can see, the defense is basically, you know, going after everything.

00:21:44.560 Hey, his name was misspelled in this report, blah, blah, blah.

00:21:46.560 This is what the defense does.

00:21:47.560 Hey, this is something good.

00:21:56.560 Can you respond to me? Say what you want to ask.

00:21:58.560 I would just say that it has Mr. Devon's name on it, Mr. William's name.

00:22:03.560 That needs to be circuit along with the other three reports, which actually filed after he deposed him.

00:22:15.560 It is my recollection that we were told the report, but it would not be used.

00:22:21.560 There was a question that James and Francoise's cast report would be used.

00:22:28.560 She didn't give us a definitive answer.

00:22:30.560 We finally rested on the fact that she was not going to be using Mr. Francoise's phone.

00:22:36.560 So it is a little bit of surprise that it is now being introduced to that file.

00:22:40.560 And the other one, I believe, with Withers, we never ever discussed it.

00:22:45.560 I don't fully understand this order dated April 22nd.

00:23:00.560 It says order to judge a special agent Collins' expert testimony in the area of cellular phone forensics

00:23:06.560 and on the cash report.

00:23:08.560 So he's going to testify.

00:23:10.560 I wouldn't normally admit a cash report.

00:23:13.560 I don't see why it would come in here.

00:23:15.560 I don't see this specifically saying it's admissible.

00:23:18.560 I see it saying special agent Collins' expert testimony in the area of the cellular phone forensics

00:23:25.560 and on the cash reports.

00:23:27.560 So he can testify.

00:23:28.560 He's here.

00:23:29.560 You can ask him questions that you want.

00:23:31.560 But I don't believe I'd be letting this into evidence.

00:23:34.560 It's just, you know, he's here.

00:23:36.560 His testimony is his testimony.

00:23:38.560 And so in regards to that, the necessity of the maps is that the special agent Collins'

00:23:45.560 going to testify in terms of latitude, longitude, and distance of him on maps without a map,

00:23:51.560 and using that for the jurors to be able to understand where this is placed on the actual

00:23:58.560 map that's going in a vacuum.

00:24:00.560 He can show it as a mock surveyor that's going to help him to make all his testimony.

00:24:05.560 I don't have an issue with that.

00:24:07.560 That's a different question for me.

00:24:09.560 Typically, we don't just admit an expert's report.

00:24:13.560 You know, the expert's here is going to testify.

00:24:16.560 Yes, sir.

00:24:17.560 Go ahead.

00:24:18.560 It's not clear for me from this order that that's what Judge Siegel anticipated, that

00:24:23.560 the report was coming in.

00:24:24.560 I don't have any issue regarding his testimony.

00:24:26.560 You know, there's not even defense indicated.

00:24:28.560 They're not even here with Boyd Ironman regarding his qualifications.

00:24:32.560 So, you know, he's able to testify.

00:24:35.560 But as far as the report coming in, I don't read your order that way, respectfully.

00:24:40.560 I understand.

00:24:41.560 So, you're trying to then, if I can show the admissibility of the maps with that owner,

00:24:49.560 then you would evaluate them as their offered individual.

00:24:53.560 I don't have an issue with it.

00:24:55.560 I mean, if he's able to identify them and talk to them, that's a different issue.

00:25:00.560 You're wanting to admit the whole report in this, the way I understand it, as substantive

00:25:05.560 evidence.

00:25:06.560 Typically, that's not the way it's done.

00:25:11.560 The testimony is the testimony of the witness.

00:25:14.560 Not the report.

00:25:15.560 It's cumulative.

00:25:16.560 It's a duplicate of whatever he's going to testify to.

00:25:21.560 I don't see the order.

00:25:22.560 It talks about a date in April.

00:25:25.560 This report was given after that date.

00:25:28.560 I don't know if this is what the judge intended.

00:25:33.560 You said there were some amendments.

00:25:34.560 I don't know what the amendments are.

00:25:35.560 I don't know if they're approved by the defense.

00:25:38.560 They're saying they're objecting to it.

00:25:40.560 Typically, that's just not done by the way it's being done putting in the document.

00:25:44.560 So, there are a number of cases on that specific issue.

00:25:49.560 I'm happy to provide the court.

00:25:52.560 What specific issue?

00:25:53.560 About a report coming in?

00:25:54.560 About the maps and the mapping being admissible.

00:25:58.560 So, that would be-

00:25:59.560 I'm not concerned about the mapping.

00:26:01.560 I'm concerned about the reporting, per se.

00:26:03.560 Well, I just want to make sure we're clear on what specifically.

00:26:07.560 So, send them this.

00:26:09.560 Okay, guys.

00:26:10.560 Just to summarize the legal jargon that's going on here.

00:26:12.560 Basically, they're trying to get this report in as evidence, but the judge is having an issue with that.

00:26:18.560 It seems like he has an issue with the report, not necessarily the maps, and he wants the agent to testify to the report, but they don't necessarily want the report in is the way I understand it.

00:26:29.560 It's a little confusing, but the prosecutor here did not prepare properly.

00:26:33.560 Yeah, cellular tower usage illustration, yeah.

00:26:36.560 So, again, this is important because they're trying to show where the hell he was at.

00:26:40.560 Site usage.

00:26:42.560 So, that's because there could be the possibility that a juror would think, well, this is showing that the phone is somewhere in this purple area, which would not be correct.

00:26:53.560 As opposed to, for example, a timing advanced illustration, which in this case, the witnesses can testify that the phone is somewhere in this band, based on suit.

00:27:09.560 And then, as well as, so in terms of the way the mapping is then done, to make it clear and understand that these red dots are not the specific locations, but rather the towers that are used.

00:27:26.560 I think it's important for the jurors to understand that and have the first part of that analysis there,

00:27:34.560 so that there can't be any sort of improper recall by the jurors on that.

00:27:48.560 So, then as to the locations on those, and this would be one of the timing exams.

00:27:57.560 Okay, so she's trying to get everything in so it makes more sense to the jury, but the defense is challenging that.

00:28:10.560 That's basically what's going on right now, guys. I want to summarize it for you.

00:28:13.560 The fact that the timing advanced data and the way it is done, I don't want there to be any confusion to the jurors to saying that this is overstating the evidence.

00:28:24.560 So, if I just put in these particular items without the full explanation, because I don't think it is appropriate to do so without the jurors understanding the limitations of the testimony and what the different maps show.

00:28:40.560 So, on that would be the specific parts the state would be seeking to introduce, because the locations of the towers are important to how the map is done.

00:28:54.560 My understanding is the defense is objective to that exhibit, is that correct?

00:28:58.560 Yes, Judge.

00:28:59.560 Does that include the maps?

00:29:01.560 That does include the maps, Judge.

00:29:03.560 The defense doesn't want the maps to come in.

00:29:05.560 So, I guess in some way it has to come out how it was done.

00:29:10.560 And you can talk to the witness and see if they can authenticate it.

00:29:17.560 The reason I was thinking that you've been using is demonstrative, and I would ask you if that helps inculstrate his testimony or not.

00:29:24.560 If you're saying you're not concerned with that, you might admit the evidence.

00:29:29.560 So, the objection is, what's the objection?

00:29:33.560 That it's irrelevant.

00:29:35.560 I would also object to the fact that...

00:29:37.560 That it's not relevant?

00:29:38.560 It is not relevant.

00:29:39.560 It's also referring to Mr. Yaman's phone.

00:29:42.560 Nobody has established that number of incidents.

00:29:44.560 It's referring to Mr. Williams' phone.

00:29:46.560 We've got no testimony that establishes that it's Mr. Williams' phone.

00:29:50.560 If we were to go to the other two reports, I don't know if our report's rolling on now.

00:29:55.560 Again, she's referencing the phone numbers and signing them to people.

00:29:59.560 We have had no testimony or evidence before the court that those actual phone numbers belong to those individuals.

00:30:06.560 Thank you.

00:30:07.560 So, I haven't heard any phone numbers being assigned to any individuals.

00:30:11.560 If I may, Your Honor?

00:30:12.560 Sure.

00:30:13.560 That is why the state introduced the phone slip that has been brought in to the defendant's fingerprint.

00:30:18.560 He endorsed that as his telephone number, and as such, the state can now argue that.

00:30:23.560 As to all of the other individuals, those are coming in from the phone records themselves.

00:30:28.560 For example, Dungita Swithers and Chris Thomas, because I went through with the slip records, Mr. Williams.

00:30:34.560 So, let me start.

00:30:35.560 What is the phone number that's on that corner sheet that you're saying is Mr. Williams?

00:30:41.560 772-713-9807.

00:30:45.560 That is Mellie's phone number.

00:30:47.560 That's why we had the fingerprint analysis done, and they came in and identified that as the fingerprint of the defendant.

00:30:55.560 Thank you.

00:30:56.560 And what's the next phone number?

00:30:58.560 The next two phone numbers that are the easiest ones to go through, Your Honor, are the phone numbers at Christopher Thomas.

00:31:05.560 772-713-2341.

00:31:10.560 And if Your Honor will call.

00:31:13.560 And you guys are probably wondering, why is this important to know the phone numbers?

00:31:16.560 Because when you want to go ahead and get geolocation data, guys, on a phone, you identify the phone by the device and by the phone number of the device.

00:31:22.560 So what they're trying to do is they're trying to say, not only do we know this is Mellie's phone and it was in this location, we saw Mellie's fingerprints on the phone.

00:31:29.560 So he was the user of the phone because the defense has been trying to say, well, the phone isn't in Mellie's name.

00:31:34.560 So it might not necessarily be his phone.

00:31:36.560 But so the prosecution is trying to show that he is the user of that phone, regardless of the name on the actual bill.

00:31:42.560 Right. Because you can have a family plan that might not necessarily have the last name of the user of that phone.

00:31:46.560 It might be the parent or whatever, but he's the user of that phone, which is why they're trying to link it up that way.

00:31:50.560 But the defense is fighting and saying, hey, well, you guys are trying to bring in this evidence.

00:31:54.560 Well, we don't have everyone else's phone.

00:31:56.560 We don't have everyone else that's involved in this map that you guys are talking about.

00:31:59.560 So the defense is trying to not get this put in for obvious reasons because it puts Mellie at the scene.

00:32:04.560 3-3-4-1 should be another number.

00:32:08.560 7-7-2-7-1-3-2-3-4-1.

00:32:14.560 And I can bring up here, for your honor, the specific information on Mr. Thomas's phone that was brought in earlier.

00:32:25.560 Don't worry, guys. I'll read the chats here in a bit, too.

00:32:27.560 Thank you so much for donating, by the way. I see them coming in.

00:32:29.560 This is Brent Records Custodian.

00:32:32.560 And there's that.

00:32:35.560 There's the phone number at the top of the screen.

00:32:40.560 7-7-2-7-1-3-2-3-4-1.

00:32:45.560 Billing address for Chris Thomas.

00:32:48.560 Yeah, Fredo was smart. He ain't testifying.

00:32:51.560 Yeah, I think Fredo definitely lied to the police as well about where he was that night.

00:32:55.560 And I wouldn't be surprised.

00:32:57.560 I heard rumors that I forget where I read it.

00:32:59.560 But Fredo was involved in hiding the gun, too, because they don't have the murder weapon guys in this situation.

00:33:04.560 They don't have it, which is kind of sucks for the prosecution.

00:33:06.560 Right.

00:33:07.560 Going down in the same records because they were produced at the same time.

00:33:13.560 Oh, in addition, the email address with it is ChrisThomas86.

00:33:19.560 Again, consistent with Christopher Thomas.

00:33:22.560 The next phone number that is on this particular is 954-371-7895.

00:33:38.560 And that is belonging to an individual by the name of John Tedious Withers.

00:33:48.560 Are there any other phone numbers this witness is going to be testifying?

00:33:52.560 Yes, sir.

00:33:53.560 He would also be testifying on the T-Mobile records to the individual by the name of Jameson Francois.

00:34:04.560 And to go to the subscriber information for Mr. Francois's phone.

00:34:11.560 This is related to Ms. Adria Scott.

00:34:17.560 There's been testimony that Adria or AA is the wife of Jameson Francois.

00:34:24.560 In addition, that phone number for Mr. Francois 954-376-9158 is consistently in the phone download of Mr. Demons and is listed as TRAC.

00:34:41.560 And there are plenty of photographs and things of that nature that would show and illustrate that Mr. Jameson Francois, also known as TRAC, is the owner of that phone number.

00:34:52.560 All right, who is TRAC? That's TRAC 100, guys, who is the manager for Melly.

00:34:56.560 So the phone is in his name, it seems, for T-Mobile, which we know that's Melly's phone under the T-Mobile service.

00:35:04.560 But it's actually in his wife's name.

00:35:06.560 Correct.

00:35:07.560 And the rest of the subscriber information also says it is a family plan.

00:35:12.560 Told you, a family plan.

00:35:13.560 And as you guys know, the subscriber means the owner of the telephone.

00:35:17.560 Basically, who's paying the bills for that phone?

00:35:19.560 With multiple lines.

00:35:24.560 Rate plan, family unlimited, two lines include them.

00:35:27.560 The subscriber information for the first phone that you're suggesting is Mr. Demons.

00:35:34.560 What does that subscriber information look like?

00:35:37.560 That comes back to his mother, Jamie King.

00:35:40.560 Okay, that's, as you guys know, YNW Melly is Jamel Demons, and his mom is named Jamie King.

00:35:49.560 So, guys, basically what we're seeing here is a standstill.

00:36:08.560 You got this FBI agent here that's trying to testify to the location data of the phone and the towers, et cetera, to show that Melly was in the location.

00:36:16.560 The defense is coming in trying to challenge that.

00:36:18.560 And what is going on right now is the prosecutor is going back and forth with the judge and the defense to try to get this cell phone information admitted.

00:36:26.560 The defense is basically saying, hey, well, we don't know if this could come in because X, Y, Z, blah, blah, blah.

00:36:32.560 And this is defense's job, right, to deflect and try to not get this evidence brought in because it's obviously going to hurt their client, Melly, because it puts him at the scene.

00:36:38.560 So that's basically the summary of what's going on here, explaining all this legal jargon for y'all, because I can see how it would be confusing.

00:36:52.560 And while we wait, guys, we got 1,300 of y'all in here.

00:37:05.560 So do me a favor, man, please like the video because we're going impromptu live right now.

00:37:08.560 You guys know I never go live in the middle of the day like this, but obviously this is a special occasion.

00:37:12.560 So go ahead and like the video for me, please, guys, and sub to the channel if you haven't already.

00:37:28.560 This is in state 64.

00:37:35.560 All right, so you guys can see here, it says right here, sell bright readers.

00:37:40.560 So sell bright, guys, is a device that law enforcement uses, right?

00:37:47.560 So you guys can see here, it says right here, sell bright readers.

00:38:05.560 So sell bright, guys, is a device that law enforcement uses, right, to what you call a data dump of the phone.

00:38:12.560 And a data dump of the phone is you're able to get the phone calls, the text messages, et cetera.

00:38:15.560 Everything from that phone is extracted and it's put in a format where you can read and analyze the data from the phone.

00:38:21.560 So that's what you guys are seeing right now.

00:38:23.560 This is a dump of a phone where you can see all the different parts of the conversation, all the things in the phone, right?

00:38:28.560 Look, device locations, cookies, contacts, chats, call logs, calendar, apps, info, activities, device notifications.

00:38:36.560 All this stuff is in the data dump from the cell bright.

00:38:39.560 So cell bright is a technology that law enforcement uses to dump phones and analyze the data.

00:38:43.560 Again, you indicated this is Mr. Devon's phone.

00:38:47.560 You just told me the subscriber information reflects that it's his mother's phone.

00:38:52.560 This is what the plan is paid for by his mother.

00:38:55.560 His mother's phone is in here.

00:38:58.560 In here, she is listed under Brazy, B-R-A-Z-Y, Lady.

00:39:05.560 And that's the 7-7-2-5-0-1-6-9-4-2, which is listed as an additional number subscriber on the phone for Mr. and the phone records.

00:39:17.560 He called Mr. Devon.

00:39:28.560 Judge, I just want to point out what she's saying that these are messages between Mr. Devon's and various people.

00:39:37.560 This cell bright actually tells you, like she stated, like it's going to track.

00:39:41.560 But it's coming from Yonsat Chaser Coward, and he's registering as the owner of the 9807 phone, 0.96

00:39:49.560 which in these reports keep going back to Mr. Devon's.

00:39:52.560 But in some way, it's showing Yonsat Chaser Coward. 0.93

00:39:57.560 And so in further showing as to who owns the phone, we can look at all the videos and images of Mr. Devon's,

00:40:07.560 of which there are over a thousand videos on the phone.

00:40:11.560 So they got all his vids in the phone, man.

00:40:14.560 I'm showing he is the user and owner of these, this particular device.

00:40:20.560 And the reason why they're trying to establish that he is the user and owner of this phone is because they're trying,

00:40:25.560 this is the phone that was tied to the murder that was at the location when the shootings happened.

00:40:29.560 So they're trying to put Nellie at the scene.

00:40:31.560 Judge Jeanine, I don't think that shows that he is the user and owner.

00:40:34.560 It shows that whoever had possession of this phone took videos of Mr. Devon's.

00:40:39.560 They're not selfies. These are actually pictures that appears to be taken by another party.

00:40:46.560 Well, these are not videos, actually.

00:40:48.560 If you want to go to the selfies, I can go to the 10,963 images to show some of those.

00:40:53.560 I don't know how she's determined here.

00:40:58.560 So I'm just going to imagine your whole phone being shown everybody across the world, man.

00:41:08.560 Goddamn.

00:41:09.560 For example, in this particular image, it's a screenshot of a FaceTime conversation

00:41:15.560 in which the large image is going to be a person who's on the other line.

00:41:20.560 The local device is going to be the tiny picture up at the top, which is of Mr. Devon's.

00:41:26.560 That's just one of many, many examples.

00:41:31.560 Can you go back to the main subscriber information page?

00:41:38.560 In terms of this one?

00:41:39.560 Yes.

00:41:40.560 So where does it show that you can subscribe?

00:41:43.560 This is from the device itself, your honor.

00:41:46.560 This is your distraction from Celebrate that phone.

00:41:50.560 In terms of information as to leave your accounts that are on this particular phone,

00:41:56.560 you have YWMLE booking at gmail.com.

00:42:00.560 You have YWMLE, a Twitter account.

00:42:03.560 You have YWMLE, an Instagram account.

00:42:07.560 You have MLE.Montana, the Snapchat account, which the Snapchat is already in evidence showing that one.

00:42:17.560 You have Jamel Demons, Jamel.Demon Demons, a Facebook account as well on that.

00:42:24.560 In terms of the content of the messages themselves is what will show that this was Mr. Demons' phone.

00:42:33.560 And that he is sending out information and things personal to Jamel himself on this.

00:42:39.560 So there are multiple different types of information to show them.

00:42:49.560 Such as I made a good word to actually go through all of these messages from both of these scenes of their girlfriends to other people.

00:43:01.560 There is no question that our client had used his phone.

00:43:04.560 But so did all these friends.

00:43:06.560 So this is a phone that they pass amongst each other.

00:43:09.560 I don't think bringing up a satellite or a couple of selfies proves that it was actually his phone.

00:43:14.560 For that argument, there's pictures of Michael Jackson on there.

00:43:17.560 So can I say that Michael Jackson is well-owned in this phone?

00:43:20.560 Based on her argument, that's what she's saying.

00:43:24.560 I don't think she has given any definitive proof that this was 100% possessed only by Mr. Demons.

00:43:33.560 So the defense is trying to say there's pictures of Michael Jackson in here.

00:43:36.560 So by her argument, this could be Michael Jackson's phone, which is kind of hilarious, but okay.

00:43:40.560 I mean, it's very obvious this is Belly's phone, but okay.

00:43:54.560 But guys, the reason why they're fighting so hard to say, hey, this isn't his phone is because they know that this phone was at the crime scene.

00:44:10.560 They're doing everything in their power to attack this piece of evidence, guys.

00:44:14.560 This is critical evidence.

00:44:15.560 So this is the defense right now putting up a fight against it coming in.

00:44:19.560 The council suggested and gave me phone numbers.

00:44:31.560 One, the council indicated, was Mr. Demons' phone.

00:44:37.560 That's the 713-9807-772 area code.

00:44:41.560 There's one that was listed as Christopher Thomas phone.

00:44:45.560 Another one has a Mr. Weaver's phone.

00:44:49.560 And another one has a Francois, known as Trax phone.

00:44:56.560 I haven't seen one that is being on Mr. Williams, am I mistaken?

00:45:02.560 Yes, there is one on Mr. Williams.

00:45:04.560 That was on the initial report.

00:45:07.560 That is the 954-248-9081.

00:45:12.560 954-248-9081.

00:45:21.560 That's Mr. Williams in one of the seats.

00:45:24.560 Yes.

00:45:25.560 That's his phone.

00:45:26.560 He has that phone and depends on who's well aware of the fact that the phone that Mr. Williams had at the time of his death was recovered.

00:45:33.560 Williams was Sack Chaser, if I'm not mistaken, guys.

00:45:35.560 One of the victims.

00:45:36.560 So they have the two victims' phones.

00:45:37.560 Williams and Chris are the two guys that were Mellie's friends.

00:45:40.560 That whole file system extraction was done from that phone.

00:45:45.560 It shows it was his phone on that.

00:45:48.560 And as well as the fact that the cell rate extraction that we just went through also has Mr. Williams saved under the name of twin in the phone of Mr. Dimmons.

00:45:59.560 In which there's discussions back and forth that identify the 954-248-9081 phone number as that of Mr. Williams.

00:46:09.560 And there's discussions, for example.

00:46:11.560 So what she's doing right now is she's explaining who each owner was of each phone, each phone number attached to each person.

00:46:17.560 And she's trying to establish the location of each phone in relation to the crime.

00:46:23.560 Okay.

00:46:24.560 And the defense is obviously fighting this because it's pretty damning for them if she can get this in.

00:46:28.560 This witness, is he going to testify regarding Mr. Williams' phone?

00:46:34.560 He's going to testify to the locations of that particular cell phone, yes.

00:46:38.560 And they're going to be identified by phone number?

00:46:40.560 At both.

00:46:43.560 Anything else?

00:46:44.560 No.

00:46:45.560 If you're going to let in for demonstrative purposes, I could say at the very least that the names are stricken from the reports.

00:46:53.560 Or redacted sorry.

00:46:55.560 And we refer to only the phone numbers, not to the individuals.

00:46:59.560 Okay, so the defense is doing that.

00:47:01.560 They only want the phone numbers to be shown, not the names, because obviously she doesn't want the jury to know who is the owner of each phone, at what location, at what time. 0.87

00:47:11.560 Because that protects Mellie, because if it's like, oh, well, this phone number did this and that, etc.

00:47:15.560 She doesn't want the prosecutor to be able to definitively say, no, the user of this phone was this individual.

00:47:20.560 Because again, what does it do?

00:47:21.560 It puts Mellie at the scene and ties him to the murder because they have very specific location data that shows that the vehicle was driven to a certain area that I showed you guys before.

00:47:29.560 It was a desolate area.

00:47:31.560 They walked around the car, shot into it, blah, blah, blah.

00:47:33.560 So the defense is doing everything in their power to not have, number one, they're trying not to get the phones in.

00:47:38.560 And if they are going to get them in, they want to redact it.

00:47:40.560 So the jury isn't necessarily aware of who the owner of each phone is.

00:47:45.560 And that's what the prosecution is trying to do, arguing that, look, there's a bunch of selfies on here.

00:47:49.560 This is Mellie's phone.

00:47:50.560 And the defense is saying, well, he has pictures of Michael Jackson in there.

00:47:53.560 So are we going to use the fact that there's pictures of individuals on there to say that that's the person's phone, which is a disingenuous argument.

00:48:00.560 But that's what defense attorneys do. 1.00

00:48:02.560 Thank you.

00:48:03.560 So we're bringing the jury in now.

00:48:06.560 As far as that demonstrative, I'm getting conflicting information.

00:48:12.560 I don't want something going before the jury about this is Mr. Devin's phone or this one's phone.

00:48:20.560 There's circumstantial evidence of that effect, but that's not, I'm not putting that in evidence that way.

00:48:26.560 Just show the portion that shows the maps.

00:48:28.560 And you can talk about the maps and the other things.

00:48:32.560 But leave out the portion that has at the bottom, or I forget it's the bottom or top, that identifies Jamel Devin's phone.

00:48:40.560 So just use it by the phone number.

00:48:43.560 Use it by the phone number.

00:48:44.560 Okay.

00:48:45.560 That's not a problem.

00:48:46.560 So I think I would need just a couple of moments to adjust that.

00:48:50.560 Go ahead.

00:48:51.560 Okay.

00:48:52.560 We're recess.

00:48:53.560 Thank you, Coach.

00:49:06.560 All right.

00:49:07.560 It looks like they're taking a quick recess because they're going to probably bring the jury back in.

00:49:12.560 So I'll read some of these chats while we wait.

00:49:14.560 Um, so we got here.

00:49:16.560 Bitcoin bandit goes W impromptu stream.

00:49:18.560 My Ron.

00:49:19.560 Appreciate that.

00:49:20.560 My friend.

00:49:21.560 We got here.

00:49:22.560 Um, Bitcoin bandit again.

00:49:25.560 You want to do an emergency meeting tonight for take?

00:49:27.560 Yeah, I mean, guys, they, they pretty much formally charged them.

00:49:29.560 Finally.

00:49:30.560 I mean, it took them fucking months to do it, but they weren't formally formally charged them.

00:49:34.560 Uh, chemo ENT court is back live.

00:49:38.560 Uh, whatever relevant goes a shout out from Sweden.

00:49:42.560 Thanks for all the content.

00:49:43.560 Got you, my friend.

00:49:44.560 Junior says, do you use data dump while working for HSI?

00:49:46.560 Can civilians use it?

00:49:47.560 I'm trying to see if my girl cheating. 1.00

00:49:48.560 Haha.

00:49:49.560 Yeah.

00:49:50.560 We definitely use sub right.

00:49:51.560 It's, it's all across law enforcement.

00:49:52.560 Guys use sub right.

00:49:53.560 That's like the number one, um, device to use when it comes to extracting phones, whether

00:49:57.560 it's law enforcement or intelligence agencies, they all use celebrates, uh, from different

00:50:01.560 models and years, et cetera.

00:50:02.560 But that's pretty much the main thing that all law enforcement uses.

00:50:05.560 Um, and then you got, uh, Arctic Byron goes, is the jury in the room while they're discussing

00:50:08.560 this, or did they remove the jury out of the courtroom? 0.78

00:50:10.560 I think it looks like they were out of the courtroom, uh, while they're discussing this

00:50:13.560 phone stuff.

00:50:14.560 Um, and, uh, defense obviously is doing everything in their power to not get this in, uh, for

00:50:21.560 obvious reasons.

00:50:22.560 So, uh, let's see here.

00:50:24.560 Um, so yeah, yeah, there was no trial yesterday guys, because it was a federal holiday with

00:50:29.560 the Juneteenth.

00:50:30.560 Uh, mine, what you know about shake, what your mama gave you.

00:50:34.560 All right.

00:50:35.560 Pause.

00:50:36.560 That's strange.

00:50:37.560 Uh, super chat.

00:50:38.560 Okay.

00:50:39.560 Uh, and, uh, let's see here.

00:50:42.560 We got 1500 of you guys in here, man.

00:50:43.560 So do me a favor guys, go ahead and like the video, man.

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00:51:06.560 Um, but, uh, yeah, guys, impromptu stream today.

00:51:09.560 All right.

00:51:10.560 Uh, I pretty much saw that this FBI agent was going to testify with, um, you know, with

00:51:16.560 what's going on as far as, uh, this case with the cell phone location data.

00:51:19.560 And that's obviously very important because that's, what's going to put Melly at the scene.

00:51:23.560 So this is critical evidence for the prosecution.

00:51:25.560 Cause at this point, um, they haven't been able to a hundred percent definitively say that,

00:51:31.560 you know, Melly was the trigger man.

00:51:33.560 They could kind of put them at the scene, right?

00:51:34.560 Because this surveillance footage right here, which I'll actually show y'all that they showed.

00:51:37.560 Okay.

00:51:38.560 I'll show you guys some of this right now.

00:51:40.560 Um, Y and W Melly.

00:51:43.560 Right on.

00:51:44.560 Matter of fact, and it's back on screen for you guys.

00:51:49.560 Right?

00:51:50.560 So if you go open up another tab.

00:51:53.560 Um, okay.

00:51:57.560 All right.

00:51:59.560 W Melly surveillance. 0.98

00:52:01.560 Right?

00:52:02.560 You're going to get right here.

00:52:05.560 This is them coming out.

00:52:09.560 Right?

00:52:10.560 So you can see here, this is sack chaser, right? 0.85

00:52:13.560 Right.

00:52:14.560 This is, uh, the guy that was sitting in the front seat from the photograph.

00:52:16.560 I showed you guys before.

00:52:17.560 Right.

00:52:18.560 I'm going to be Melly.

00:52:20.560 All right.

00:52:22.560 Right.

00:52:25.560 So y'all can see this right here.

00:52:30.560 Oh, here's sack chaser right here. 0.98

00:52:34.560 And this is, let me get rid of this.

00:52:37.560 So you can see him coming October 26, 2018.

00:52:41.560 This is in Fort Lauderdale, I think after they finished recording.

00:52:44.560 So he gets in the front seat, right?

00:52:46.560 The jean jacket.

00:52:47.560 And then this is the other victim, Chris.

00:52:50.560 Or no, I know.

00:52:51.560 I think this is actually YW Portland right here.

00:52:53.560 He's going to get in the driver's seat if I'm not mistaken.

00:53:00.560 Right?

00:53:01.560 So he jumps in the front.

00:53:11.560 So they're waiting for Melly to come out.

00:53:14.560 All right.

00:53:16.560 So another individual walks out.

00:53:21.560 I don't know who these three guys are.

00:53:23.560 But they were there, I guess, at the studio at the same time.

00:53:28.560 But I know the police interviewed these guys and they all gave conflicting stories.

00:53:31.560 All right.

00:53:32.560 So here you see, here's Melly right here, guys. 1.00

00:53:35.560 Now look, he has a satchel as he's coming out.

00:53:39.560 And they actually mentioned this in the criminal complaint.

00:53:41.560 Look at how it's moving.

00:53:44.560 Is that indicative of potentially something being inside of it?

00:53:47.560 You can see it's weighed down by something.

00:53:50.560 Right?

00:53:51.560 So he gets in the back seat.

00:53:53.560 Right?

00:53:54.560 Right here.

00:53:56.560 Here he is.

00:53:57.560 Right?

00:54:01.560 So you can see him get in.

00:54:03.560 Rewind that real quick.

00:54:08.560 So Melly comes out at about 218.

00:54:11.560 Bam, here he is.

00:54:16.560 See a little satchel right there.

00:54:18.560 Right there.

00:54:27.560 So that could be where the gun was, which they never recovered.

00:54:35.560 And then this is YW Chris, I think, the guy.

00:54:40.560 He's going to get.

00:54:41.560 No, is that him?

00:54:42.560 Yep.

00:54:43.560 He's going to get.

00:54:44.560 Bam.

00:54:45.560 Okay.

00:54:46.560 He's going to sit right next to Melly.

00:54:47.560 So that's one of the murder victims right there.

00:54:49.560 So these two.

00:54:53.560 All right.

00:54:54.560 So one more time, let's go through this.

00:54:58.560 And let me enlarge it for y'all so we can really look at this.

00:55:04.560 All right.

00:55:05.560 There's one of the individuals that they were talking about on the phone.

00:55:09.560 Because they have his cell phone data as well.

00:55:15.560 And there is YW Bortland.

00:55:18.560 Who was the driver that brought them to the hospital after they were shot.

00:55:22.560 And claimed that they had been shot in a drive by shooting.

00:55:24.560 He gets in the front driver.

00:55:26.560 Sack trace from the side.

00:55:27.560 And this is them coming out of a music studio, by the way, guys.

00:55:52.560 All right.

00:55:53.560 So now here comes Melly.

00:55:57.560 Looks like something is weighing down his satchel.

00:56:07.560 We can speculate as to what it is.

00:56:08.560 Was it a gun?

00:56:09.560 Was it something else?

00:56:10.560 So he gets in the back seat.

00:56:11.560 You can see the door open right here.

00:56:13.560 Closes.

00:56:14.560 So he's now in the vehicle.

00:56:16.560 The victim in the front seat.

00:56:17.560 Sack trace is in the vehicle.

00:56:19.560 And YW Bortland is in the vehicle in the driver's seat.

00:56:23.560 And then here comes Chris.

00:56:24.560 He gets in right next to Melly.

00:56:29.560 And he ended up getting shot.

00:56:30.560 Now guys, just so you know.

00:56:32.560 The bullet holes were on this side of the vehicle.

00:56:34.560 However, they were shot from the left.

00:56:37.560 So the bullets were going from this way to that way.

00:56:40.560 But Melly and Bortland claimed that the shots came this way.

00:56:44.560 Which doesn't make sense because they were shot from their left.

00:56:47.560 So it didn't make sense.

00:56:49.560 The wound pattern and the ballistics.

00:56:54.560 And this is the last time anyone saw these guys alive.

00:57:03.560 I guess Melly really had murder on his mind.

00:57:05.560 When he got in the vehicle at this point.

00:57:07.560 So this effectively proves that Melly was in the vehicle.

00:57:10.560 And then you could see them take off.

00:57:11.560 Bam.

00:57:13.560 Because when you read the police report.

00:57:16.560 These individuals tried to say that they took Melly.

00:57:18.560 But that's clearly not true.

00:57:19.560 And y'all can see it right now.

00:57:20.560 Boom. There they go.

00:57:21.560 Leaving in tandem.

00:57:24.560 So.

00:57:31.560 I think they're still here on recess.

00:57:33.560 Let me go ahead and refresh this for y'all.

00:57:35.560 Let's see what's going on.

00:57:42.560 Alright, this is day five.

00:57:45.560 So.

00:57:47.560 He has murder on his mind.

00:57:48.560 Y'all are hilarious, bro.

00:57:50.560 Let's see here.

00:57:54.560 We got 1,600 of y'all homies in here.

00:57:57.560 Shout out to all you guys.

00:57:58.560 You could be anywhere else in the world.

00:57:59.560 But you're here with me.

00:58:00.560 So thank you for that.

00:58:02.560 Court's in a brief recess.

00:58:05.560 So.

00:58:06.560 They're probably going to reconvene here in a little bit.

00:58:09.560 Let's see here.

00:58:10.560 Let me see what the chat's up to.

00:58:14.560 Guys, get the likes up.

00:58:15.560 Get the likes up.

00:58:16.560 Let's get to 1,000 likes here.

00:58:17.560 If y'all can.

00:58:18.560 We got 1,600 of you guys watching right now.

00:58:20.560 Which I appreciate greatly.

00:58:21.560 This is an impromptu stream.

00:58:22.560 Normally never on fed it.

00:58:24.560 In the middle of the day like this.

00:58:25.560 But.

00:58:26.560 I figured you guys might want to get some value out of this.

00:58:28.560 With a live trial.

00:58:30.560 You know when I saw that they brought the FBI agent in to testify from.

00:58:34.560 You know.

00:58:35.560 That's a phone expert.

00:58:36.560 I saw that the.

00:58:37.560 Obviously the prosecution means business here.

00:58:38.560 I mean guys.

00:58:39.560 They're trying to push for the death penalty.

00:58:42.560 So.

00:58:43.560 I'm not surprised that they're pulling out all the stops.

00:58:45.560 Right.

00:58:46.560 Bringing in expert witnesses.

00:58:47.560 Et cetera.

00:58:48.560 Because last week.

00:58:49.560 You know the prosecution.

00:58:50.560 You know the.

00:58:51.560 Some of the critics were like.

00:58:52.560 Oh well.

00:58:53.560 They haven't really tied Melly to the murder.

00:58:54.560 Which in my head.

00:58:55.560 I'm like.

00:58:56.560 Well.

00:58:57.560 I mean bro.

00:58:58.560 You got surveillance footage.

00:58:59.560 Clearly showing that.

00:59:00.560 He was in the car at the same time.

00:59:01.560 Right.

00:59:02.560 So it's like.

00:59:03.560 Come on man.

00:59:04.560 The defense's job is to.

00:59:06.560 You know.

00:59:07.560 Create reasonable doubt.

00:59:16.560 Yeah.

00:59:17.560 Well Jason.

00:59:18.560 You gotta.

00:59:19.560 Jason T says the prosecutor's case is weak so far.

00:59:20.560 Well it's not done bro.

00:59:21.560 You know.

00:59:22.560 You gotta.

00:59:23.560 You gotta understand that they're building the story up.

00:59:24.560 Okay.

00:59:25.560 So and there's a lot of evidence here.

00:59:26.560 There's a lot of evidence that.

00:59:27.560 You guys gotta remember.

00:59:28.560 This is.

00:59:29.560 So this case is what I would call a circumstantial case.

00:59:31.560 What circumstantial case means basically is that.

00:59:33.560 There's pieces of evidence guys that.

00:59:35.560 If alone.

00:59:36.560 The evidence is weak.

00:59:37.560 But if you put the evidence.

00:59:38.560 Side by side.

00:59:39.560 Right.

00:59:40.560 In chronological order.

00:59:41.560 Etc.

00:59:42.560 It paints a picture so that you can only come to one conclusion typically.

00:59:45.560 So.

00:59:46.560 The only way that a case is like this is gonna make sense for everybody.

00:59:49.560 Especially when they don't have a murder weapon.

00:59:50.560 They don't have confession.

00:59:51.560 They don't have eyewitness.

00:59:52.560 Etc.

00:59:53.560 Is they're gonna have to rely heavily on the circumstantial evidence to paint the picture.

00:59:56.560 So.

00:59:57.560 The evidence right is gonna speak for the victims.

01:00:00.560 But.

01:00:01.560 For you to see the full picture.

01:00:02.560 Make sure you have to see all the pieces of evidence.

01:00:04.560 How they intertwine.

01:00:05.560 Etc.

01:00:06.560 So you got.

01:00:07.560 Right.

01:00:08.560 The cell phone location data.

01:00:09.560 Showing that Melly is the user of that phone.

01:00:10.560 And it was in the area at the same time.

01:00:11.560 You got.

01:00:12.560 The ballistics that show.

01:00:13.560 That a drive-by shooting doesn't make sense.

01:00:15.560 Given.

01:00:16.560 The bullet holes were coming from the right side of the vehicle.

01:00:18.560 But the wounds were on the left side of the victims.

01:00:20.560 Right.

01:00:21.560 You have.

01:00:22.560 The.

01:00:23.560 One spun shell casing that was on the bottom floorboard where Melly was seated sitting.

01:00:26.560 You have.

01:00:27.560 Melly making cryptic messages saying.

01:00:29.560 You know.

01:00:30.560 He had DM someone on Instagram saying.

01:00:31.560 I did that with a.

01:00:32.560 Shush.

01:00:33.560 You know.

01:00:34.560 This shit.

01:00:35.560 Is circumstantial.

01:00:36.560 But.

01:00:37.560 And by itself.

01:00:38.560 It's like.

01:00:39.560 Oh well.

01:00:40.560 You know.

01:00:41.560 Can we.

01:00:42.560 By itself.

01:00:43.560 There's reasonable doubt.

01:00:44.560 But when you put it all together and stack it together.

01:00:45.560 It paints a picture that you can only come to one conclusion.

01:00:47.560 Right.

01:00:48.560 So.

01:00:49.560 That's.

01:00:50.560 That's.

01:00:51.560 That's basically.

01:00:52.560 The power of circumstantial evidence.

01:00:53.560 But it needs to be put all together.

01:00:54.560 Especially since they don't have a murder weapon.

01:00:56.560 So.

01:00:57.560 The prosecutors got the work cut out for them.

01:00:58.560 But I think.

01:00:59.560 They'll be able to.

01:01:00.560 They'll be able to make it happen.

01:01:01.560 Honestly.

01:01:02.560 I think.

01:01:03.560 Once you look at all the evidence.

01:01:04.560 There's no.

01:01:05.560 Way that you cannot come to the conclusion that Melly shot his friends.

01:01:08.560 Simple.

01:01:09.560 You know.

01:01:10.560 I know.

01:01:11.560 People say there's no murder weapon.

01:01:12.560 We don't have a motive.

01:01:13.560 You know.

01:01:14.560 You can't effectively place him at the scene.

01:01:16.560 You know.

01:01:17.560 He never gave a statement.

01:01:18.560 I mean.

01:01:19.560 That's.

01:01:20.560 That's all.

01:01:21.560 Yeah.

01:01:22.560 These are all valid.

01:01:23.560 Holes in the case.

01:01:24.560 But.

01:01:25.560 We have some very powerful evidence.

01:01:26.560 Also.

01:01:27.560 That shows.

01:01:28.560 That.

01:01:29.560 There's no other way that it could have been done.

01:01:30.560 You know.

01:01:31.560 And then also.

01:01:32.560 Keep in mind that they lied.

01:01:33.560 All right.

01:01:34.560 So we're back on live.

01:01:35.560 Also keep in mind that they lied and said that.

01:01:37.560 Oh yeah.

01:01:38.560 We.

01:01:39.560 We were here when the phone data shows otherwise.

01:01:40.560 So.

01:01:41.560 Them lying also hurts the credibility.

01:01:43.560 But let's go back to the trial.

01:01:44.560 Let's.

01:01:45.560 Let's bring it back in.

01:01:46.560 Here we're coming in.

01:01:51.560 All.

01:01:53.560 You.

01:01:54.560 Just feel it.

01:01:55.560 And.

01:01:56.560 Yeah.

01:01:58.560 Just feel it.

01:01:59.560 Thank you.

01:02:29.560 Thank you.

01:02:59.560 Thank you.

01:03:00.560 Let the record once again reflect the presence of our jury.

01:03:06.560 All remains on the same day, John.

01:03:12.560 I need to resolve some of the issues before we go further. It's approaching 5 o'clock now, so my thought is I'm here to resolve it. We'll see you all back tomorrow morning.

01:03:21.560 So remember the admonition to not discuss the case, but form any opinion about the case to allow anyone to discuss the case.

01:03:28.560 Certainly no research about the case, all right? You hear that every time we break, I'll tell you that. It's very important.

01:03:35.560 So I'm sorry for these meetings. We'll see you back tomorrow at night. Thank you.

01:03:42.560 Thank you.

01:03:49.560 Thank you.

01:03:51.560 Thank you.

01:03:52.560 Thank you.

01:03:54.560 Thank you.

01:03:55.560 Thank you.

01:03:57.560 Thank you.

01:03:58.560 Thank you.

01:04:00.560 Thank you.

01:04:01.560 Thank you.

01:04:03.560 Thank you.

01:04:04.560 Thank you.

01:04:05.560 Thank you.

01:04:06.560 Thank you very quickly down and if you further discuss counseling, I don't believe so, especially in your college, because you're on the middle of your communication outside the presence of there's any emergencies or anything else.

01:04:29.300 Please contact my office so they can message me so that your colleagues can record that.

01:04:34.300 Understood.

01:04:35.020 Thank you.

01:04:35.940 All right.

01:04:36.480 Thank you.

01:04:36.880 I appreciate it.

01:04:37.740 Thank you.

01:04:38.320 We're adjourned.

01:04:39.060 Thank you.

01:04:39.660 Danny.

01:04:40.600 Danny.

01:04:45.420 All right.

01:04:52.260 So it looks like they're cutting it for the day, if I'm not mistaken.

01:04:56.560 I just got up real quick to get some water.

01:04:58.140 But yeah, guys, I mean, we'll have to see.

01:05:02.200 Like I said before, this case is extremely circumstantial, so they're going to need every day to paint the picture for you guys because, I mean, you know, it's a case where all the facts have to line up for it to make sense for you guys.

01:05:17.100 So that's what it is.

01:05:18.640 So let's see here.

01:05:22.160 Love the content, Mario.

01:05:23.140 Keep the videos coming.

01:05:24.260 Got you guys.

01:05:25.200 The ones on the left side, that's big.

01:05:27.480 Absolutely.

01:05:28.700 Keep chilling.

01:05:29.480 NSA, do they have a motive or speculation as to why?

01:05:32.200 To an injury by the name of John Tedious Withers.

01:05:35.600 They think it's money, guys.

01:05:38.480 A lot of people say it's money and there was a beep between Melly and his mom.

01:05:42.520 Sorry, Melly, Sack Chaser and Melly's mom. 1.00

01:05:44.480 That's another one.

01:05:44.960 Yes, they're going to be testifying on the T-Mobile records to the individual by the name of Jameson Francois and to go to the subscriber information for Mr. Francois' phone.

01:06:03.020 This is related to Ms. Adria Scott.

01:06:09.600 So there's been testimony that Adria, or AA, is the wife of Jameson Francois.

01:06:16.520 Also, guys, do me a favor.

01:06:21.900 Like the video.

01:06:22.380 We got 1,600 plus y'all in here, man.

01:06:24.740 Just like it.

01:06:25.180 Let's get up to 1,500 likes if we can.

01:06:27.200 Helps with the algorithm quite a bit.

01:06:29.060 Appreciate it.

01:06:29.660 And it is listed as TRAC and there are plenty of photographs and things of that nature that would show and illustrate that Mr. Jameson Francois, also known as TRAC, is the owner of that phone number.

01:06:46.520 But it's actually in his wife's name.

01:06:49.520 Correct.

01:06:49.880 And the rest of the subscriber information also says it is a family plan with multiple lines.

01:06:59.660 Rate, plan, family, unlimited, two lines and so on.

01:07:03.000 On the subscriber information for the first phone that you're suggesting is Mr. Dennis, what does that subscriber information look like?

01:07:12.840 That comes back to his mother, Jamie King.

01:07:15.660 Let's go back now.

01:07:42.360 What's on the, I don't know what the exhibit number was.

01:07:46.560 Did you print out anything on these phones?

01:07:49.260 I think there was a printout.

01:07:50.500 They objected to it.

01:07:51.960 There's multiple printouts on the phone, not all of which have been integrated evidence at this point.

01:07:57.360 But what's in that so far?

01:07:59.120 I can pull that up and just stay in a moment.

01:08:05.600 Thank you.

01:08:06.320 Thank you.

01:08:36.320 Okay, so let's break this down.

01:08:48.940 I have two great guests joining me.

01:08:51.360 Mina, I want to start with you.

01:08:52.600 And then, Jeffrey, I want to get your take on things here.

01:08:54.840 Mina, we were talking about Raven Liberty, who was arguing against this evidence coming in.

01:09:00.080 And we just saw in court right now.

01:09:02.700 And, you know, I did some background research on her and she had represented Kodak Black previously.

01:09:09.940 And I see your point.

01:09:11.840 When I looked up her name to get some trial intake and insight on her, a lot of people were talking about not her legal acumen, but all the wrong things. 0.90

01:09:22.060 Do you think we're going to see her taking a forefront during the course of this trial or do you think she's going to be more of a background role?

01:09:31.840 What do you think?

01:09:33.040 Absolutely.

01:09:33.740 I'm looking forward to her taking more of a forefront.

01:09:36.920 She deserves that.

01:09:37.800 It's a shame that when you Google her, you know, these frivolous things come up about her body language or she's laughing too much with the defendant.

01:09:49.080 She is a respectable lawyer. 0.50

01:09:51.680 She's, as you mentioned, she's defended other celebrities as well.

01:09:57.140 And she deserves to be known for her work.

01:10:00.440 Not only that, the things that she is objecting to is very important.

01:10:04.740 Now, we haven't seen any.

01:10:06.340 They made Mellie wear a turtleneck, by the way, guys, because he has the names of his victims' mothers on his neck.

01:10:11.880 According to the prosecution's opening remarks, there is an alleged text message of some sort of admission of guilt on Mellie's behalf.

01:10:22.940 And obviously that text message would have been found on the phone.

01:10:25.780 So it's very important that the defense tries to throw out whatever evidence is trying to be introduced in this case from that phone because that literally could be the nail in the coffin if they can introduce certain things from the phone.

01:10:40.400 So I'm very happy that it's her that is presenting the objection.

01:10:44.840 And I am looking forward to seeing more from her.

01:10:47.900 Yeah, no, absolutely.

01:10:48.860 And you make a great point.

01:10:50.780 The evidence from the phone is very important here.

01:10:53.260 And we're talking about that text message that the prosecution is probably going to be looking to get before this jury in a very prominent way.

01:11:01.040 Now, we have a circumstantial case here.

01:11:03.040 And, Jeffrey, I want to ask you, when you have a circumstantial case from the prosecution,

01:11:08.040 it's your job to connect the dots with various pieces of evidence in order to get that before the jury and prove your case beyond a reasonable doubt.

01:11:16.780 But I want to shift now to the defense side.

01:11:18.840 When you're confronted for your client with a circumstantial case from the prosecution, you want to sort of pick apart the evidence and seek to exclude whatever points of evidence that the prosecution is looking to put forth before the jury so they can't connect those dots.

01:11:37.620 What do you think with this piece of evidence?

01:11:39.780 What do you think the goal is for the defense with this particular piece of evidence?

01:11:44.560 And do you think if they are able to get it excluded, that's going to be a significant blow to the prosecution's case?

01:11:54.040 Yeah, so a few things, OK?

01:11:56.500 Number one, I want to jump back a little bit because all of this should be viewed in the context of Mellie's life as on the line.

01:12:03.940 This is a death penalty case.

01:12:05.380 It doesn't get any more serious in the United States of America.

01:12:07.660 And so I want to push back a little bit because when people are talking about body language and they're talking about laughing in the courtroom, they're talking about professionalism.

01:12:18.460 And you can be a good lawyer and you can still slip up.

01:12:21.680 I've seen very, very good lawyers become friendly with their clients or have a rapport with their clients, which we need to have.

01:12:29.620 But the courtroom ain't the place for it.

01:12:31.380 Go talk to them at the jail if you want to laugh.

01:12:33.500 So it has nothing to do with their gender.

01:12:35.300 It has nothing to do with anything nefarious.

01:12:38.980 That is severe.

01:12:40.280 You are not sitting in a place where you are laughing.

01:12:43.640 This is a death penalty case and you're in a court of law.

01:12:46.800 Decorum is important.

01:12:48.160 No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

01:12:49.780 That's number one.

01:12:50.960 Number two, when we're talking about the keeping this evidence out and keeping as much of the cell phone data out,

01:12:57.900 the government wants it all to go to the jury because they want the jury to get this Instagram message where he supposedly says something along the lines of, I did that, shush.

01:13:09.060 That is what they're saying is in his phone.

01:13:11.620 And that's why they want to tie it to him as his phone.

01:13:14.240 That's why they want to make the logical leap that this is his phone.

01:13:17.900 And that's why the defense is fighting so hard against it because it is the entire case.

01:13:22.160 It is the entire case.

01:13:23.540 Because when you're talking about circumstantial evidence, you can look the jury in the eye and tell them they have to shake hands with their conscience that they had to make a logical leap to convict your client and sentence him to death.

01:13:34.480 In a state that's going to allow them to sentence him to death without a unanimous jury.

01:13:39.400 This is as serious as it gets.

01:13:41.600 That's why this is stuff going on in this case.

01:13:44.460 No, absolutely.

01:13:45.220 Great points from both of you.

01:13:46.880 And we're going to take a quick break here at Long Crime.

01:13:49.720 When we come back, more of this trial.

01:13:51.920 Rapper YNW Melly down in Florida.

01:13:55.080 Murder trial.

01:13:55.840 Stay tuned here at Long Crime.

01:14:01.100 Yeah, Melly has definitely displayed some strange behavior, guys.

01:14:04.100 I'll show you what I mean by this YNW Melly behavior. 1.00

01:14:09.420 Yeah.

01:14:10.760 So.

01:14:14.620 It's blown into the air.

01:14:16.820 YNW Melly has been pretty expressive for the camera in the courtroom.

01:14:20.740 What does it mean for him, if anything?

01:14:22.880 We discuss.

01:14:24.320 Hold on.

01:14:26.420 Hold on.

01:14:27.220 Hold on.

01:14:27.780 Hold on.

01:14:27.960 Hold on.

01:14:28.220 Hold on.

01:14:28.580 Stop.

01:14:29.200 Hold on.

01:14:29.700 Look at this shit, guys.

01:14:31.000 This nigga crazy. 1.00

01:14:34.420 Apparent prayers and kisses blown into the air.

01:14:37.980 YNW Melly has been pretty expressive for the camera in the courtroom.

01:14:42.120 What does it mean for him, if anything?

01:14:43.980 We discuss.

01:14:45.320 And you can see, look, he had to hold back the laughter, guys.

01:14:47.660 Look at this shit.

01:14:49.140 Look.

01:14:49.420 So he blows out the kisses.

01:14:50.560 For the camera in the courtroom.

01:14:52.220 What does it mean for him, if anything?

01:14:53.880 He looks.

01:14:54.600 And then he covers his mouth because he's smiling.

01:14:56.880 Thing.

01:14:57.200 We discuss.

01:14:58.880 Bro, this dude is on some fucking demon time, bro.

01:15:06.640 I'm Anjanette Levy and welcome to Law and Crime's Sidebar Podcast.

01:15:10.420 We are entering the second week of the double murder trial of Jamel Demons in Broward County,

01:15:15.160 Florida.

01:15:16.160 Demons, of course, is known by the stage name YNW Melly.

01:15:19.880 He's been going viral during his trial, not because of the evidence, but because of some

01:15:24.320 of the things he's done in front of the camera.

01:15:26.980 Just a quick recap to bring you up to speed if you haven't been following the case.

01:15:31.020 Demons is on trial accused of murdering two of his lifelong friends and YNW members, Anthony

01:15:36.600 Williams, known as YNW Sack Chaser, and Chris Thomas, who's known as YNW Juvie.

01:15:42.300 The two men were shot to death in the early morning hours of October 26, 2018, after four

01:15:48.660 YNW members left a late night recording session in an SUV.

01:15:53.260 The state says Melly is the trigger man that he pulled the trigger.

01:15:56.880 The defense says the prosecution can't prove it.

01:16:00.020 Melly's co-conspirator, Cortland Henry, who went by YNW Bortland, was driving the SUV that

01:16:06.220 night.

01:16:06.660 And from what I understand, he's going to testify in this case, guys.

01:16:09.180 So if he testifies, I'm more than willing to think he's probably going to testify against

01:16:14.680 Melly.

01:16:15.120 Keep in mind, guys, that he's been out of jail all this time.

01:16:18.000 Melly's been in.

01:16:18.580 He's been out.

01:16:20.080 And also faces charges in the murders.

01:16:22.600 He will be tried separately at a later date.

01:16:24.960 Now back to Melly's behavior in the courtroom.

01:16:27.820 Joining me to discuss the behavior of YNW Melly in the courtroom and in front of the camera

01:16:32.960 is Bernarda Villona.

01:16:34.360 She is a frequent guest here on Law & Crime, also a defense attorney and former prosecutor.

01:16:39.900 So she's been on both sides of the aisle.

01:16:42.640 Thanks so much, Bernarda, for coming on.

01:16:44.220 We appreciate it.

01:16:45.940 Thank you for having me, Jeanette.

01:16:48.520 Your first impressions of the case so far as we end week one.

01:16:52.700 Just let's start there.

01:16:54.860 It has been a show.

01:16:56.960 It has been a performance from both sides.

01:16:59.380 It's not what exactly we expected to see at a trial, but definitely a performance on

01:17:03.580 each side.

01:17:04.160 Every day, you just never know what you're going to get from this trial.

01:17:07.320 It kind of reminds me of the Daryl Brooks trial.

01:17:10.160 A little bit, yeah.

01:17:11.560 Our defendant is a little more behaved, I guess, better behaved than Daryl Brooks.

01:17:17.220 But there is still that viral aspect of it.

01:17:20.660 So some of the moments that we've seen in this trial.

01:17:24.180 And guys, just so you know, the reason why they're pushing for the death penalty is what

01:17:26.760 they're saying is that Melly is a gang member.

01:17:28.420 That's actually one of the main things that they're using to make their case for the death

01:17:34.740 penalty against him.

01:17:36.980 Gee, shine bloods.

01:17:38.520 Have set the internet on fire.

01:17:40.580 You know, they've gone viral on Instagram, TikTok.

01:17:43.000 People are turning, I know, to our social media accounts to see what is he going to do next

01:17:47.520 in front of the camera.

01:17:48.960 Shout out to Honey Bones. 1.00

01:17:50.000 Go shout out to all the dads that are positive roles in their kids' life.

01:17:52.340 Thank you, Mario, for today's show.

01:17:53.420 This is to help the TV that Angie broke.

01:17:55.480 Thank you so much.

01:17:56.120 I appreciate it, Honey Bones.

01:17:57.160 One of the big moments that happened during week one that really had people thinking,

01:18:02.460 oh my gosh, what is going on here?

01:18:03.980 Was Melly. 0.51

01:18:05.180 And then Ellie and Gerardo goes, yo, Maren, this is my first super chat, but shout out

01:18:08.440 to you and Fresh.

01:18:09.060 I want to say thank you guys for always providing value.

01:18:11.760 Got you, man.

01:18:14.160 Kissing kind of into his hands and then it appeared he was blowing it out.

01:18:17.640 So Bernarda, it almost feels like it was like a little bit of a prayer there.

01:18:20.800 And then this kind of almost like a Zen moment and then poof.

01:18:25.420 So what do you make of this?

01:18:28.520 Really, nigga? 1.00

01:18:29.680 That, you know, I should mention a lot of this is going on outside the presence of the jury,

01:18:33.500 but it's still being captured and seen everywhere.

01:18:36.220 So as you can see with Melly, a lot is going on in his mind.

01:18:40.920 In terms of the pressures that he's facing, remember that he's facing the death penalty.

01:18:45.320 So a lot is riding on this trial.

01:18:47.620 So I'm sure that he was probably sending a prayer and also just asking for some peace

01:18:51.960 or calming down of his mind.

01:18:53.660 But who knows?

01:18:54.520 Because we can't get into his mind frame.

01:18:57.080 I don't know about that.

01:18:58.740 I think he was trying to be funny because you could see he was laughed after he covered

01:19:02.520 his mouth after he had to hold back the laughter.

01:19:04.880 So clearly he's antagonizing the victim's families because just so you guys know, the

01:19:09.920 victim's families all think he did it.

01:19:12.260 They did.

01:19:12.920 They interviewed Chris's father, right?

01:19:14.940 The guy that was sitting next to Melly that got shot and one of Melly's best friends.

01:19:18.400 They all think because Melly's from Gifford, Florida.

01:19:21.480 They all think Melly did it, guys, which because Melly didn't show up to the funerals.

01:19:25.660 He didn't put anything in for there as far as like contributing to the funerals.

01:19:29.320 They pushed the funeral back for him to show up and he still didn't show up.

01:19:32.540 So just so y'all know, all the victim's families think Melly did it as well.

01:19:36.060 I think one of the things that's important to keep in mind here and in kind of preparing

01:19:40.860 for this trial, I watched a lot of interviews and videos of Melly and I remember him talking

01:19:46.240 about kind of like these two kind of personalities within him.

01:19:50.260 Melly, who's kind of chill and Melvin, who was more protective, I guess, or maybe had

01:19:56.420 more of a violent streak.

01:19:58.160 And maybe there's just a lot going on within him, as you mentioned, that we don't know

01:20:04.720 about.

01:20:05.140 He's talked to and he.

01:20:06.300 The funeral was the funeral was when he was out, guys.

01:20:09.660 And remember, they didn't I don't think they picked him up until February of 2019.

01:20:14.000 So the murder happened in October.

01:20:15.860 He was out for a few months before they went and arrested him.

01:20:18.000 I even talked to one interview about having more than two personalities, more than the

01:20:22.640 Melly and the Melvin.

01:20:23.840 So do you think that might be part of what is going on here?

01:20:28.960 It's possible.

01:20:30.060 You got to think for a defendant, for a person that is on trial, especially a person that's

01:20:34.580 on trial for his life.

01:20:36.260 There are a lot of pressures and a lot of things to think about.

01:20:39.260 And as a defendant, you're sitting there and you have to be quiet.

01:20:42.460 You can't respond to what's going on in the courtroom.

01:20:45.480 And he's just listening to everything that is being said, everything that is going on

01:20:50.060 in that courtroom.

01:20:50.960 So he's trying to get some peace in his mind or try to lay things out or get some understanding.

01:20:56.920 There's just so much going on.

01:20:58.560 And it's like you never know what his personality or his just his mental health.

01:21:03.020 How's it doing on any particular day?

01:21:05.160 And that's just for anyone that could be standing trial, especially when their life is on the line.

01:21:09.880 Very stressful situation.

01:21:11.760 Most of us cannot understand what it's like to be in that position.

01:21:15.580 Most of us have not been charged with serious crimes and murder is the most serious crime

01:21:20.300 you can face in our criminal justice system.

01:21:22.880 In a lot of courtrooms, Bernarda, there are strict rules about decorum.

01:21:27.540 And when a defendant can say things, of course, they can always talk with their attorneys.

01:21:33.620 I've been in courtrooms before where the defendant can't, you know, they might be able to look

01:21:37.840 to their family or they maybe give them a nod or a wave when they come in.

01:21:42.540 But this there's been some video that we've captured of him kind of motioning to the gallery

01:21:49.220 as he exits.

01:21:50.560 So, Bernarda, what do you make of that?

01:21:52.440 Does this kind of play against Mellie at all?

01:21:55.040 Is this just him being a young guy, maybe doing this to his family?

01:21:59.460 What do you think?

01:22:00.000 So, not at all, Anjanette.

01:22:02.840 So, you have to think this is going at the end of the case when the court is done for

01:22:07.220 the day or even right before lunch, before their break, or actually any time there is

01:22:11.320 a break.

01:22:12.060 So, in terms of ordering the courtroom, that is all up to the judge.

01:22:16.120 The judge determines what the order is going to be, what's going to be the decorum of the

01:22:20.520 courtroom.

01:22:20.820 Some judges do not allow the defendant to turn around from their seat or to actually

01:22:26.800 address anyone in the audience.

01:22:29.240 So, it's all up to the judge.

01:22:30.680 But in terms of his actions right now, it's quite common.

01:22:34.300 He wants to turn around and take a look at his family, his friends, or his supporters

01:22:38.400 and just let them know that he appreciates their support.

01:22:41.640 And this is all out of the presence of the jury.

01:22:43.980 That's the most important thing you have to think about.

01:22:46.340 Is the jury present in the courtroom when these actions are taking place?

01:22:49.920 Because that makes the big difference.

01:22:52.300 Most certainly.

01:22:53.040 And we haven't really seen him, at least I haven't noticed him doing these things in

01:22:57.820 the presence of the jury.

01:22:59.500 One of the things we did notice on Thursday was him doing something, you know, he's a musician.

01:23:06.640 He produces music.

01:23:08.520 And it appeared that he was kind of like maybe thinking about some music, bopping his head.

01:23:14.600 What do you think, Bernarda?

01:23:15.380 Again, this is him trying to get some peace in his mind.

01:23:22.120 We all bop to music.

01:23:23.700 But you have to think that he is a musician.

01:23:26.060 He is a...

01:23:26.600 Bopping to music when your life is on the line and you're facing a murder trial?

01:23:30.300 Like, come on, man.

01:23:31.440 Rapper.

01:23:31.740 So to him, this may be the common effect that he needs in order to continue with this trial

01:23:37.500 day in and day out.

01:23:38.740 So again, I don't make much of it.

01:23:41.320 Again, the difference is, was the jury present when he was doing this?

01:23:45.520 And it's not disturbing the courtroom or the proceedings.

01:23:47.800 So I don't see a judge calling him out on these actions of him bopping his head.

01:23:51.960 But I'm sure if the jury was present, they may be asking themselves, what is going on in

01:23:55.920 his head?

01:23:56.400 Why is he bopping his head?

01:23:57.760 But they probably also know that he is a musician.

01:24:01.540 You know, he produces music.

01:24:03.320 They wouldn't know this, but I saw an interview of him one time talking about how he wrote

01:24:08.380 Murder on My Mind while he was doing time on another charge.

01:24:13.020 So involving a firearm and firing a gun near a school.

01:24:16.640 So I think a lot of people might do that.

01:24:19.320 But even though it's not in front of the jury, there's still a camera in there.

01:24:23.080 Would that cause you any concern?

01:24:25.700 Because these images are being seen out on the Internet.

01:24:29.020 There are mixed reactions to them.

01:24:30.660 His fans love it, right?

01:24:32.620 His fans really like it.

01:24:34.100 His critics, his detractors, not so much.

01:24:37.100 Yeah, but you got to think, well, other people are concerned about the camera and they're

01:24:42.000 watching this.

01:24:42.980 It doesn't matter.

01:24:44.280 And the reason it doesn't matter is because the people outside of the courtroom, they're

01:24:48.520 not the jurors.

01:24:49.360 They're not in the jury.

01:24:50.360 What matters is what those 12 people that are sitting listening to the evidence, what

01:24:54.880 they think, what's going on, how they are evaluating his actions inside of the courtroom.

01:24:59.720 So in terms of the camera, I'm not concerned about it.

01:25:02.660 Of course, he knows he's being recorded.

01:25:04.580 Of course, he knows that this is being aired out into the public, into the media.

01:25:09.620 But that same video captions are not being presented in front of the jury.

01:25:14.380 Bernarda, one thing that has caught the attention of some people is the fact that Mellie seems 0.96

01:25:18.340 to smile at the camera a lot.

01:25:19.960 One person described it as him flirting with the camera.

01:25:23.680 So Bernarda, what do you make of that?

01:25:25.060 The smiling.

01:25:26.080 We see the head bopping again.

01:25:28.880 Stupid.

01:25:30.340 Maybe he thinks that he's doing a music video.

01:25:33.340 Who knows?

01:25:34.520 But I think the bopping.

01:25:35.700 Yeah, it's never a good look, man, when you're smiling at the camera, when you're on

01:25:38.940 capital murder charges, man.

01:25:41.080 I think part is probably out of nervousness and try to calm himself down.

01:25:44.520 Down and in terms of the smile.

01:25:46.380 And I think it's also the same thing.

01:25:47.980 What I'm curious to see is whether he's been evaluated for any kind of mental health issues

01:25:53.580 in the sense of going forward with this trial.

01:25:56.240 But of course, he has to be competent to be able to go forward with trial.

01:26:00.260 But I'm curious whether that examination was done, whether there was any concern as to his

01:26:05.340 ability to proceed with the trial.

01:26:06.820 I'm curious about that, too, especially when I watched some of these interviews that he

01:26:11.600 had done before all of this happened.

01:26:13.980 I wondered when he was talking about Mellie versus Melvin.

01:26:17.360 Also, how many people I mean, I can't imagine being on trial for double murder and not being

01:26:23.280 a little bit worried and concerned.

01:26:25.240 So how much of this is putting on a show, putting on a front?

01:26:31.200 I mean, I think that can be a part of it.

01:26:33.560 But also, you have to think there's so many different things that are playing here.

01:26:37.920 One thing we have to remember, of course, he's a young man.

01:26:41.800 Two, he is a rapper.

01:26:43.380 He does have fame in the sense of he has a lot of fans.

01:26:46.560 So he may want to portray himself in a certain way for the fans.

01:26:50.140 But also have to balance it out that I'm on trial for my life here.

01:26:53.620 So try to get some calmness and being able to proceed day in and day out.

01:26:58.380 But I think the power is in the defense attorney and speaking to him and let him know, like,

01:27:04.540 look, you are on display.

01:27:06.940 All your actions are being seen and not just in front of the jury, but also on the camera.

01:27:12.220 So just be mindful.

01:27:13.420 And I think that's what the defense attorney has to do every day is remind him, like, look,

01:27:17.900 not only is the jury watching you, but also the cameras are watching you.

01:27:21.680 And I think that's the power struggle that Mellie's having with himself.

01:27:25.960 It's like, wait, I'm a rapper, but I'm also on trial for my life.

01:27:29.360 One thing, Bernarda, that some people pointed out to us is that Mellie appears to smell himself

01:27:35.200 at some points.

01:27:36.120 He kind of sniffs himself.

01:27:37.760 And there was one moment in particular on Thursday that really caught the attention of

01:27:42.260 people on social media.

01:27:45.720 Obviously, you know, this is something people on social media are talking about.

01:27:49.180 The jury's not seeing it.

01:27:51.080 But what are your thoughts?

01:27:53.040 And Jeanette, haven't you smelled something?

01:27:56.940 And you're like, wait, hold up.

01:27:58.060 Is that me?

01:27:58.880 Let me check if that's me.

01:28:00.120 I want to confirm that it's not me at all.

01:28:03.620 Exactly.

01:28:04.460 I mean, I have had as well.

01:28:06.560 I want to make sure that it's not me.

01:28:08.320 So you got to think with Mellie, he's not really paying attention that the camera is

01:28:13.020 completely videotaping every little thing that he's doing.

01:28:16.560 I don't think he's thinking about it each and every second.

01:28:19.080 So he had a personal moment and just had to check out and make sure that it wasn't him.

01:28:23.400 Or maybe it was him.

01:28:24.940 Yeah, I think we've all had one of those moments where you're like, oh, I smell something.

01:28:29.620 Is that me?

01:28:30.380 Or what have you.

01:28:31.820 But it did seem to catch fire a little bit on Twitter, that particular clip.

01:28:36.380 Another thing that people have pointed out is the fact that he kind of chit chats toward

01:28:40.640 the gallery at the end of the day.

01:28:42.340 And I feel like, Bernarda, in that particular clip, he looked kind of annoyed and irritated.

01:28:48.260 So something kind of caught his attention or caught his ire, and he's obviously talking

01:28:53.900 with one of his lawyers about it.

01:28:55.620 Yeah, it looks like something transpired or something may have been mouthed to him that

01:28:59.720 actually bothered him.

01:29:01.320 Now, in terms of how the defense attorney is responding, the defense attorney has to be

01:29:06.200 very mindful.

01:29:07.160 Again, if it is in front of the jury, her reaction, how she's reacting to her client.

01:29:13.240 Because remember, you don't want to give off to the jury that, one, it's like maybe you're

01:29:18.300 too close to the client, or two, that you're scared of the client or uncomfortable with the

01:29:22.980 client.

01:29:23.700 There's a lot that the defense attorney has to be mindful of because it all depends, again,

01:29:29.760 how is the jury receiving these types of interactions.

01:29:32.820 But that particular interaction wasn't in front of the jury.

01:29:35.580 But I'm just talking in general when the jury is present.

01:29:39.120 So you think all of this outside the presence of the jury is much ado about nothing.

01:29:44.560 Maybe the fans see it on social media, but, you know, your thoughts.

01:29:50.500 Absolutely.

01:29:51.300 All of this that's going on outside of the presence of the jury, I would not pay it no

01:29:55.640 mind because it doesn't matter.

01:29:57.620 It doesn't matter in the sense of that the jury is not present.

01:30:00.520 And the jury is ultimately the ones that are going to make the ultimate decision as to

01:30:04.680 his guilt and whether the death penalty should be placed in this case.

01:30:09.320 He should be given the death penalty outside of the presence of the jury.

01:30:12.520 I'm not concerned as long as he's not acting disrespecting the court in the sense that the

01:30:17.460 judge may hold him in contempt or that he can say or do something outside of the presence

01:30:23.640 of the jury that can possibly be used against them at trial.

01:30:27.120 Those are my concerns right there.

01:30:29.540 Bernarda, there's been a lot of chatter on social media, on the YouTube chat about the

01:30:34.740 attorney that sits next to Mellie and Mellie.

01:30:37.960 And she seems to be almost kind of like motherly toward him.

01:30:41.800 They seem to be very friendly.

01:30:43.240 There's a lot of giggling and laughing going on.

01:30:46.020 So I'm kind of wondering what your thoughts are about that.

01:30:49.300 So my thoughts in regards to that as a criminal defense attorney, as a former prosecutor, is that

01:30:54.480 it's possible that the criminal defense attorney can be chiming in and in a sense of like rubbing

01:30:59.220 him and talking to him and seem very close to him in front of the jury to try to show

01:31:03.700 the jury like, look, this is not a guy that's capable of killing two people.

01:31:08.000 Like this is a guy I'm comfortable with talking to, to sitting next to, to actually putting

01:31:12.700 my hand on him to make, to let him know that it's going to be okay.

01:31:16.160 So this can actually all be an act in front of the jury so they can take that into account.

01:31:21.260 Because remember, the jury's observing everything that's going on.

01:31:24.140 Yeah, they're trying to humanize him because obviously the murder that he's being accused

01:31:27.320 of is very gruesome, man.

01:31:29.720 I mean, he shot them both at close range, right, allegedly.

01:31:32.640 And there was blood everywhere.

01:31:33.880 If you guys saw like the, some of the photographs of the inside of the vehicle, it was not nice.

01:31:40.040 Let me see if I can pull some up.

01:31:41.420 And this can be just a show of the defense part.

01:31:44.600 But also on the flip side, this can also be the defense attorney has been working with

01:31:49.840 Mellie for, for years now, and that she's gotten close to Mellie.

01:31:53.300 So they have built a rapport, a relationship.

01:31:56.080 And this is why they're so close to each other.

01:31:58.620 But as long as they keep it professional and they're tending to what's going on in the courtroom,

01:32:03.520 it's all okay.

01:32:05.060 So it could be a lot of strategy going on with this.

01:32:07.540 I mean, it could be genuine, but also there could be a strategy, a strategic kind of thing going

01:32:12.400 on here.

01:32:13.360 Absolutely.

01:32:14.180 It could be strategic.

01:32:15.280 I will make it strategic, especially when you're talking about two people, two murders

01:32:19.400 that you're talking about.

01:32:20.500 You want to try to portray and also humanize Mellie for this jury.

01:32:25.040 And that's the way of doing it without actually speaking to the jury.

01:32:29.920 And really people forget there is a bit of stagecraft that goes into these things.

01:32:34.380 Am I wrong?

01:32:36.440 You're not wrong at all when it comes to being a trial attorney.

01:32:39.520 And if you're an excellent trial attorney, you have to know that everything, it is a

01:32:43.520 performance.

01:32:44.240 You are on stage.

01:32:45.380 You are performing for this jury.

01:32:47.200 From the moment you leave your house in the morning and every single second that you're

01:32:51.440 in front of that jury, whatever you do is...

01:32:54.080 So here's some of the footage, photographs from the crime scene, guys.

01:32:57.620 Okay.

01:32:57.800 Viewer discretion is advised.

01:32:58.900 Some of this stuff is pretty violent.

01:33:00.040 Uh, so this is from, let's see here.

01:33:04.600 As y'all can see, here's the bullet, um, the bullets, right, on the right-hand side of

01:33:10.400 the vehicle, right?

01:33:12.340 Even though we know the wounds came from the left-hand side, right?

01:33:17.640 And then, this is the front passenger seat where one of the victims was found, sack

01:33:24.180 chaser.

01:33:24.500 There's a phone right there, right?

01:33:31.580 That's the back seat, uh, where Chris was found.

01:33:36.100 Going forward again, what are we looking at in this image?

01:33:39.580 Show, and you know, um, items of interest that will be later be collected.

01:33:45.840 The two sprite cams.

01:33:47.160 And y'all can see the blood, all the blood here, right?

01:33:50.280 Pretty crazy.

01:33:52.500 That were there.

01:33:54.500 The name of the individual who rented this vehicle.

01:34:09.720 And this was early on in the trial.

01:34:11.260 I think this was like day one or day two of the trial right here, right?

01:34:14.660 And they're doing, you know, the bullet trajectory analysis, et cetera.

01:34:18.920 So, um, yeah, man, very violent stuff, very violent stuff.

01:34:21.920 Um, so guys, uh, I think I'm going to wrap this thing up here in a second.

01:34:27.220 Uh, can you do a Chicago rip review?

01:34:28.600 They're an organized crime group of serial killers, cannibals, rapists, and necrophils. 1.00

01:34:31.720 Uh, I could put that on the list.

01:34:34.040 Uh, my, and I've been in his shoes before.

01:34:35.900 They don't want him or care about the victims.

01:34:37.340 They care about the story.

01:34:38.340 The media made a lot of money.

01:34:39.240 Of course.

01:34:39.640 I mean, they're making money right now, broadcasting it everywhere.

01:34:42.000 If he has two personalities that he's crazy and not fit for trial, I think that's more

01:34:45.980 of a marketing thing for his music.

01:34:47.140 Uh, cause clearly he is competent to stand trial, hence why they're having the trial.

01:34:51.080 Um, but yeah, guys, I'll probably do another live, uh, maybe tomorrow during the day, um,

01:34:56.220 before we do fresh and fit, uh, for this trial, if I got time, but yeah, man, I figured I'd

01:35:00.980 come on.

01:35:01.500 Uh, it kind of sucks cause the FBI agent went and took the stand and then the defense immediately

01:35:04.800 came in and tried to, you know, stop his testimony and say, Oh no, we don't want this

01:35:08.900 stuff to come in.

01:35:09.460 Cause he was going to talk about the phone location data.

01:35:11.480 But, uh, but yeah, if you guys enjoyed this stuff, I'll do more of it.

01:35:14.400 Um, where, you know, I'm live streaming the trials, which you guys are pausing and explaining

01:35:17.580 things, et cetera.

01:35:18.240 Cause I know it could be kind of difficult to, um, to understand at times.

01:35:22.300 And then also, uh, the courtroom has like really shitty audio.

01:35:25.460 I don't know if y'all noticed that.

01:35:26.320 Like it's really fucking shitty and hard to make out what they're saying sometimes.

01:35:28.860 So I have to really pay attention and then, you know, tell you guys, uh, back what

01:35:32.820 they're saying.

01:35:33.700 But, uh, yeah, hope you guys liked it, man.

01:35:36.120 Don't forget to like the video, subscribe to the channel.

01:35:37.820 If you haven't already, I'm going to get ready here and hit the gym here in a bit.

01:35:39.960 Uh, but I love y'all.

01:35:41.780 I'll be back more than likely either tomorrow for FEDA or definitely for Fresh and Fit at

01:35:46.120 7 p.m.

01:35:46.700 We're going to have, uh, uh, we're going to have a special guest on tomorrow.

01:35:50.500 So, uh, yeah.

01:35:51.860 Hope you guys enjoyed this impromptu FEDA reacts, man.

01:35:54.380 Catch you guys in the next one.

01:35:55.060 Peace.

01:35:58.520 I'm a special agent with Homeland Security Investigations.

01:36:00.360 Okay, guys.

01:36:00.900 H-S-I. 0.99

01:36:01.500 This is what FEDA reacts.

01:36:02.900 Defender Jeffrey Williams and associate YSL did commit the felony.

01:36:05.500 Here's what 6ix9ine actually got. 0.98

01:36:07.440 This attack shifted the whole U.S.

01:36:09.880 government.

01:36:10.360 This guy got arrested.

01:36:11.520 Espionage.

01:36:12.140 Okay.

01:36:12.420 Trading secrets with the Russians. 0.54

01:36:14.240 John Wayne Gacy, a.k.a.

01:36:15.380 The killer.

The Debrief With MyronGainesX - June 20, 2023

Fed Explains YNW Melly Murder Trial

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