The Debrief With MyronGainesX - Fed Exposes The TRUTH About Netflix Series ＂Monster： The Jeffrey Dahmer Story＂

00:00:00.960 And we are live. What's up, guys? Welcome to Fed It. Today, we're going to be breaking

00:00:04.100 down the Jeffrey Dahmer case. You guys know this is trending all over the place thanks

00:00:07.100 to the Netflix special. Let's get into it.

00:00:11.820 I was a special agent with Homeland Security Investigations, okay, guys? HSI. The cases

00:00:15.480 that I did mostly were human smuggling and drug trafficking. No one else has these documents,

00:00:22.180 by the way. Here's what Fed It covers. Dr. Lafredo confirmed lacerations due to stepping

00:00:28.620 on glass. Murder investigations. You see him reaching in his jacket. You don't know.

00:00:33.760 And he's positioning. Been on February 13, 2019. You're facing two counts of two

00:00:37.920 meditative murders. Bracketeering and Rico conspiracies. Young slime life here and after

00:00:42.420 referred to as YSL. This is 6ix9ine. And then this is Billy Seiko right here. Now, when they

00:00:47.680 first started, guys, 6ix9ine ran with me. I'm a Fed. I'm watching this music video. You know,

00:00:52.520 I'm bobbing my head like, hey, this shit lit. But at the same time, I'm pausing. Oh, wait,

00:00:55.920 who this? Right? Oh, who's that in the back? Firearms and violent crime. A.K.A. Bush Icy

00:01:01.800 violated. This is the one that's going to fuck him up because this gun is not tracing. Well,

00:01:12.100 it happened at the gun range. Here's your boy, 42 Doug, right here on the left. Okay. Sex

00:01:15.860 trafficking and sex crime. They can effectively link him to paying an underage girl. And the first

00:01:22.660 bomb went off right here. This guy got arrested for espionage. Okay. Trading secrets with the

00:01:40.580 Russians for monetary compensation. The largest corrupt police bus in New Orleans history.

00:01:47.460 The days of the police are gone. So he was in this bad boy. We're going to go over his past,

00:01:52.340 the gang time, so that this all makes sense.

00:01:54.720 All right. And we are back. What's up, guys? Welcome to Fed it, man. I'm glad to be back.

00:02:07.220 It's been a while. As you guys know, we were in London for quite a bit of time in Romania. Shout

00:02:12.000 out to the Tate brothers. Shout out to all our UK guys out there. Mandam, King Riches, you know,

00:02:17.140 Troy Francis, et cetera. Did a couple podcasts out there. As you guys know,

00:02:20.060 Fed it requires a lot of research, man. Like I'm over here taking all kinds of notes,

00:02:26.260 being prepared for this joint. And, um, you know, sometimes it takes me weeks on end to

00:02:30.520 research a case and make sure that I can come correct and be able to present as many facts as

00:02:34.320 possible so I can give you guys an educated breakdown. And, you know, at the end of the day,

00:02:37.720 I got to, you know, put my little spin on it as well as a former federal agent. So, um, these,

00:02:42.580 these types of, um, this type of content requires a lot of, uh, research essentially. And between,

00:02:48.220 you know, fresh and fit the fitness stuff, everything else that I'm doing, it takes quite

00:02:52.000 a bit of time. So I apologize for not giving you guys an episode for the past two weeks or so I've

00:02:57.480 been releasing clips, but let's be honest here. We all know that the live breakdowns is the best

00:03:01.020 and, uh, also the documentary as well. Now, as far as the hitman documentary that I'm going to be

00:03:06.160 doing guys, I won't, uh, be able to drop that one until next week. I don't know why, but for some

00:03:11.100 weird reason, YouTube has given me a headache with getting it cleared through the, um, the person that

00:03:16.460 owns it or whatever, you know, as you guys know, copyright, all this other crap, which typically

00:03:19.860 it's re it's a reaction video. It's fair use. Um, but it's taking a little bit longer than usual.

00:03:24.080 So I should that have, have that out for you guys, uh, this coming week. It's a really interesting

00:03:28.260 episode. It's based on a individual who committed a triple murder, uh, using a fucking handbook.

00:03:35.600 Okay. I know, I know very like what the hell, but it was very interesting case. And, um, he committed

00:03:40.800 triple murder with, you know, for some money, et cetera. And it was really interesting.

00:03:44.060 And, um, yeah, that will be dropped, uh, this week. It was a reaction video. I did a shot

00:03:49.080 to Christina. She helped me with that one as well. Um, but anyway, uh, today we're going

00:03:53.680 to be breaking down the Jeffrey Dahmer cases. You guys, if you guys have been living under

00:03:56.420 a rock, uh, Jeffrey Dahmer, you know, I've, I knew about him for a while, but he's, you

00:04:01.600 know, rose to prominence recently because of a viral Netflix documentary. And, uh, I've been

00:04:07.480 getting requests for serial killers quite a bit. Um, next I'm probably going to do the killer

00:04:11.920 clown for you guys. All right, Nancy, right. I know a lot of you guys want me to do that

00:04:15.040 one as well. So I'll start hitting some of these serial killers, the Charles Manson's,

00:04:18.580 et cetera. Um, but before I get into all that and you know, uh, what we're going to do, the

00:04:24.100 Jeffrey Dahmer breakdown, I got a special guest in the house. You want to introduce yourself

00:04:26.740 to the people real fast?

00:04:28.360 Yes. Hey guys, I'm autumn. I'm 25. I'm going to school for computer science. I live in Tampa,

00:04:35.040 but I'm hanging out in Miami for a few days that I jumped on this Jeffrey Dahmer podcast.

00:04:39.220 It's super interesting. So stay tuned. Bam. All right. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Yeah.

00:04:44.180 She's going to be giving me a helping hand here. Uh, can you highlight those super chats

00:04:47.300 for me, by the way, the, the things on a, yeah. So, uh, so I'll hit some of these chats

00:04:51.900 real quick and then we'll get into it guys. Uh, and I appreciate you guys for all the support.

00:04:56.720 I really do. Fresh is in the chat as well. Shout out to fresh. Uh, and, uh, this dude, man,

00:05:02.160 he tried to make fun of me earlier. You got feet as pretty as fresh, bro. Fresh's feet are

00:05:07.120 disgusting. If you've ever seen them, my man never puts lotion on him. Uh, repent and obey

00:05:12.280 Jesus. 20 bucks goes fresh needs, uh, fresh needs to do. Yeah, I got it. I got it. Don't

00:05:16.980 worry for now. All right. Fresh needs to do bare minimum of five pushups every hour for

00:05:21.060 16 hours a day. That would help motivate him more even during the shows. Also people on

00:05:25.380 depression medication shouldn't be allowed to drive revoke the license. Okay. Okay. That's

00:05:30.000 an interesting tidbit there, but all right. Uh, what else do we got here? We got, um, leaks

00:05:34.440 five goes the two cops that fed the Asian team to Dahmer were reinstated. And one was

00:05:38.880 elected as police union president, Milwaukee PD inept or corrupt. That's a good question.

00:05:44.180 I'll answer that later on in the show, because I don't want to give too much away for the

00:05:47.260 people that may have not seen the Dahmer, um, Netflix series, which a matter of fact, I'm

00:05:52.260 going to do a poll here in a second, which y'all, uh, we got Christina Brown, uh, Lee

00:05:56.380 goes, uh, thank you for being kind to Trill, seeing Chrissy anytime, man. You know, we, we

00:06:00.480 always show a politeness. Anyone that shows politeness, a shout out to Trill. Uh, and

00:06:04.260 then we got here. Now we know why you are late. Ha ha ha. Fuck you, bro. Uh, and then

00:06:12.680 we got, actually, that was the reason why I was actually late was, and she's my witness.

00:06:16.360 Were we, or were we not researching? We definitely were. Yes, exactly. We were researching. All

00:06:22.920 right. Not the type of researching that you perverts are thinking about. Uh, just want

00:06:26.680 to know what you majored in college to work for Homeland security from Kevin. I majored

00:06:30.820 in criminal justice, guys. I was, uh, I was an intern with Homeland security from 2010

00:06:34.520 to 2013. I became an agent in 2013 and I went to my first duty station in Laredo, Texas

00:06:39.460 in 2014. Uh, Isaiah's five bucks. Yo, my uncle's friend was killed and my dad's cousin

00:06:45.400 was asked by Dahmer to leave with him. Luckily he denied. Oh shit. God damn. Oh shit. Okay.

00:06:51.460 And shout out to Aaron Clary. Aaron Clary was actually living in Milwaukee at the same

00:06:54.880 time. I'm surprised that Dahmer didn't get him. Uh, Mel Vargas, $1. Thank you so much.

00:07:00.480 I appreciate that. And then we got, uh, Jay. Oh, shout out to Jay Spansky.

00:07:06.460 Uh, I don't want to expose this dude too much, but, uh, that's my childhood friend right there,

00:07:12.720 guys. That's one of my best friends, uh, growing up. So, uh, yo, Jeremy, drop your, your Instagram

00:07:17.680 for the people if they want to follow you. But yeah, that's, that's my, that's my childhood

00:07:23.280 friend right there, man. I've known this guy since I was 11 years old in New Britain,

00:07:26.640 Connecticut. Good friend of mine. Uh, fucking ass clown. I hate him though, but shout out

00:07:31.160 to him. Uh, I already know why you watching this joint. Oh man. Anyway, a lot of the crazy

00:07:39.000 humor that you guys see me with, it comes from that fucking guy. Pods nation. 10 bucks.

00:07:42.420 Marin is a former human smuggling expert. Have you worn fresh to take the kidnapping class

00:07:46.140 yet? He's running around MIA with half a milli vehicle. The valet is even closes our keys

00:07:51.080 SMH. Well, sir, you're conflating, um, you know, kidnapping with human smuggling to completely

00:07:56.240 different crimes. Human smuggling is, you know, moving illegal aliens into United States

00:08:00.780 to circumvent immigration law, right? Border patrol, et cetera. Uh, what you're talking

00:08:04.420 about is kidnapping, which that is another crime in itself. And it typically doesn't go

00:08:08.000 federal unless you, uh, affect interstate commerce, right? You're crossing interstate

00:08:12.140 lines. That's typically when the FBI is going to get involved. Um, I've done kidnapping

00:08:15.560 cases myself as well. Um, I remember one case we had, there was this little girl. She got

00:08:21.080 uh, we thought that she had got kidnapped or enticed, but she had went to like Mexico

00:08:24.580 to meet with this, uh, individual who was a little too old. If you know what I'm saying?

00:08:28.060 And she was like a, like a 12 or 13. Uh, we ended up getting her back and it was great.

00:08:32.040 It was probably one of the best feelings I ever, uh, felt was getting that little girl

00:08:35.300 back to her house, uh, to her parents. Getting her back home. Uh, Johnny black, not to be

00:08:39.780 off track, but you should train Aaron more. He constantly skips super chats against your

00:08:43.260 wish. I don't know if he stutters over them or be drunk, but he definitely slap you

00:08:46.580 with his work. Okay. All right. Uh, and then you guys got to remember too, that sometimes

00:08:51.320 we have like thresholds, right? To keep the show going. So he might not show your, uh,

00:08:56.040 super chat. If, um, if you might like, let's say we say 20 enough from this point forward

00:09:01.080 and then bam, he's got to go 20 and up, you know, we'll read the ones that came through

00:09:04.320 before, but that's typically the rules. Cause you know, if we spend all day reading super

00:09:08.000 chats, you guys are going to hate us and, and everything else like that. So, uh, yeah.

00:09:11.580 So guys, there's already 781 of you guys in here. So please do me a quick favor, like

00:09:15.340 the video, subscribe to the channel. If you like criminal case breakdowns, go ahead and

00:09:19.440 subscribe to the channel. No one else on YouTube is doing this. And not only is no one else

00:09:22.360 on YouTube doing it like this, but there's no other former federal agents on here, breaking

00:09:26.400 out criminal cases for you guys from my perspective. Now, real quick, before we get into this, I

00:09:30.840 want to explain to you guys, um, that what, what murder typically falls under. Okay. Murder

00:09:36.240 guys is almost always exclusively investigated by the state. And the reason for that is because

00:09:41.180 premeditated murder, homicide, et cetera, unless there's some kind of federal nexus, the feds

00:09:46.820 are not going to get involved. What do I mean by a federal nexus? I mean, as in, it needs

00:09:50.600 to be attributed to like maybe a gang case, a racketeering case. Maybe you kill someone

00:09:54.680 during the commission of a bank robbery or a big one for me when I was an agent was,

00:09:58.220 uh, like a smuggler, like left an illegal alien for dead out in the brush, or they tried

00:10:03.460 to get away from the police and the car rolled over and they died. Like the, the feds only

00:10:07.920 get involved in murder or some type of homicide when there's a federal crime already being,

00:10:13.120 uh, committed to some degree. That's typically when the feds get in, they need some other

00:10:17.320 prerequisite, right. To get involved in murder cases. Typically. Now, when it comes to like

00:10:23.120 a traditional premeditated murder investigation or serial killer, et cetera, that almost always

00:10:28.500 falls under the state. Now, have I ever done a murder case where I was the lead investigator

00:10:35.560 for a premeditated murder? No, most federal agents don't investigate murder like that.

00:10:39.120 There's some in rare situations where they do, like, let's say, um, you work for like

00:10:43.700 the park forest or the park service, right. And you're in a special agent with them. And

00:10:47.560 that someone commits a crime, right. And, uh, protected land. That's federal, a federal

00:10:52.120 land. Then yeah, they'll get involved in that. Right. They'll do, they'll do a legit like

00:10:56.320 homicide investigation in that situation alongside the state locals. But in general, most of the

00:11:01.960 time, right. Or Indian reservation, right. The FBI will go ahead and handle a murder

00:11:05.800 investigation in that situation. Cause it's federal land in that situation. They will,

00:11:09.340 but in most situations, the state and locals, the County, they're the ones or the state police.

00:11:15.040 They're the ones that take over and handle premeditated murders, serial killings, et cetera.

00:11:19.780 And then the feds typically come in and assist. So in this investigation, I know what the feds

00:11:23.720 that were involved, the FBI was involved, but they, uh, they were more from like an assisting

00:11:27.600 standpoint. They gave a behavioral analysis agent to get in there and interview Dahmer and figure out

00:11:32.640 what the hell his problem was. Um, they gave, they helped out with forensics and DNA, et cetera.

00:11:37.080 But the lead agency was the Milwaukee police department. Okay. That's the main agency that

00:11:42.420 investigated. So I just want to make that distinction very clear between state and local authorities and

00:11:47.560 then federal authorities and who investigates, uh, homicide one or premeditated murder or murder

00:11:52.780 one, whatever you guys want to use for it. Okay. Somebody said Osama in the chat. Okay. Hilarious.

00:11:57.280 Uh, hello, my grandson, Myron's grandfather. Thank you. You fucking asshole. You, oh man. Uh,

00:12:05.080 and I will be doing, speaking of Osama, I will be doing nine 11 as well. And I'm also working

00:12:08.840 really hard on getting you guys a special guest that may or may not know Osama Bin Laden very

00:12:13.780 personal personally. I locked it in, but I just got to find a date to bring this individual. And if you

00:12:17.660 guys know who I'm talking about, give me a one in the chat, but, uh, I'm speaking of Osama, uh,

00:12:22.580 and it's going to be probably one of the best podcasts. Uh, okay. We read this one and then

00:12:27.120 let's see here, Johnny black. I think this, we read this one. Cool. I think we're good here.

00:12:32.020 And then this is the last one here. And then I'm going to get into the show guys. Any chance

00:12:35.020 we can get you to review DG DEA agent Kiki Camarena and the last narc doc. It was rumored

00:12:39.520 that CA agent was present at a store tree. Okay. Yes, I can definitely do this for y'all.

00:12:43.320 Uh, for you guys that are wondering, Kiki Camarena was a DEA agent that went undercover,

00:12:47.280 uh, with the Mexican cartel. They ended up finding out that he was involved in, I think they lost

00:12:51.860 like millions, millions of dollars worth of marijuana. Uh, this was back in the eighties

00:12:55.820 and, uh, you know, they ended up torturing him and killing him, uh, which led to, uh,

00:13:01.400 some very serious, uh, okay. I see some ones in the chat. Y'all know, y'all know what time

00:13:04.700 y'all say it's still team six. Y'all know what time it is, baby. Uh, yeah, I'm working on getting

00:13:09.140 y'all that interview, but yeah. Anyway, with Kiki Camarena, yeah, he was tortured by, uh, some

00:13:14.640 cartel people. If I'm not mistaken, the guy that killed them was, uh, cattle, uh, cattle can

00:13:20.860 tell, uh, Rafael cattle. Um, I forget his last name, but someone in the chat is going

00:13:27.540 to put, put his name in here. I already know. Uh, and I'm just doing this off the top of

00:13:30.740 my head. If I, I'm actually going to be very surprised if, if, if it's, uh, it's Rafael

00:13:33.860 cattle can Tino or something like that. But anyway, yeah, I'll break down that case for

00:13:37.980 y'all. Okay. Um, and I'm also going to break down a case, speaking of, uh, federal agents,

00:13:41.840 uh, you know, being killed in the line of duty. I'm going to also going to do Jaime Zapata.

00:13:45.560 Uh, as you guys know, I came from the Laredo field office and Jaime Zapata was, was a, was

00:13:51.440 a very good agent. He was, uh, murdered in Mexico, uh, by members of the Losetas, uh,

00:13:57.360 while he was doing on a mission to deliver some equipment. And, you know, I know a lot

00:14:00.880 of information on that because, you know, I knew agents that were close to him. So, uh,

00:14:04.760 I'm definitely going to do an episode on that and keep his memory alive. Um, and he ended

00:14:08.640 up, the, the people that were involved in killing him got hit with murder. But again, like

00:14:12.960 I said before, they got hit with murder because they killed a federal agent, right? So that

00:14:17.220 was it, that allowed the feds to come in and investigate that crime as a murder because

00:14:20.940 he murdered, they murdered a federal agent. Okay. So typically murder when the feds come

00:14:26.420 in has to be attributed to some other federal offense. All right, cool. So let's go ahead

00:14:30.560 and start breaking this bad boy down. And, uh, all you got to do on him, just highlight

00:14:34.520 the chats and stuff like that for, from this point forward, for anything that comes in with

00:14:38.340 like colors, um, shout out to her up and out in the background, like the video guys,

00:14:42.280 we got 1000 y'all in here. So, all right, so let's get right into it. All right. Uh,

00:14:46.200 so we got Jeffrey Dahmer here. Uh, let me add, let me move this tab, moving some stuff around

00:14:52.260 real fast for y'all. Okay. So I'm going to share screen

00:14:56.200 because we got a lot to cover with our guy here. All right. So who is Jeffrey Dahmer?

00:15:04.360 All right. Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer. Okay. Here he is right here. Not a bad looking guy. Pause.

00:15:08.080 Uh, born May 21st, 1960, uh, died November 28th, 1994. And we're going to talk about that

00:15:13.040 as well. Also known as the Milwaukee cannibal or the Milwaukee monster was an American serial

00:15:17.740 killer and sex offender who committed the murder and dismemberment of 17 men and boys

00:15:22.300 between 1978 and 1991. Oh man. Oh shit. Oh shit. Many of his later murders involve necrophilia,

00:15:29.520 cannibalism, and a permanent preservation of body parts, typically all or part of the skeleton.

00:15:34.760 Okay. Necrophilia guys is, you know, the sexual urge to have sex with corpses and cannibalism is

00:15:40.240 the consumption of humans. Okay. And demonetization gone like that. Anyway,

00:15:46.560 anyway, although he was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, just like a lot of these

00:15:53.460 girls that come on the podcast, schizotypal personality disorder and psychotic disorder,

00:15:59.320 Dharma was found to be legally sane at his trial. He was convicted of 15 of the 16 murders he had

00:16:04.020 committed in Wisconsin and was sentenced to 15 terms of life imprisonment on February 17th,

00:16:09.220 1992. Dharma was later sentenced to a 16th term of life imprisonment for an additional homicide

00:16:14.540 committed in Ohio in 1978. And gentlemen and ladies, this was the first murder he had committed,

00:16:19.920 which we're going to talk about that in a little bit more detail here in a second.

00:16:22.460 And then on November 28th, 1994, Dharma was being a death by Christopher Scarver, a fellow inmate

00:16:26.860 at the Columbia Correctional Institute in Portage, Wisconsin.

00:16:30.460 So for us to be able to understand the individual, we got to go back in time and understand what type

00:16:35.520 of man this guy was, what was upbringing, what led to the creation of the Milwaukee monster.

00:16:42.980 Okay. So he grew up guys in Ohio. All right. And he grew up right here in this house,

00:16:48.660 4480 Bath Road, Bath, Ohio. And this is like a pretty much right outside of Akron. Okay.

00:16:55.780 Nice home. Right now it's worth about 415,000. But this home was built in 1952. And I got the

00:17:01.540 Redfin listing here guys, because, you know, so we can get a little bit more details,

00:17:04.340 but this is the home right here. Okay. It's been upgraded quite a bit. But so let's see here.

00:17:12.360 Boom. You guys can see here. It's been pretty much enhanced. All right.

00:17:15.840 Um, and now I think nowadays you can like rent the place for $10,000 a month,

00:17:20.940 which is wild, but that's kind of where we're at now. Nowadays, there's a fascination

00:17:25.960 with, um, with serial killers. All right. Um, and this is the inside of the home now.

00:17:31.500 All right. And that residence has changed hands several times over the ensuing decades,

00:17:35.100 including multiple times after the killer's 1991 arrest. And I mean, that's for obvious reasons,

00:17:38.940 right? People are probably going to, you know, try to either, Oh, I don't want to be here because

00:17:43.240 someone died here because he committed his first murder here guys in 1978. All right.

00:17:48.780 And, uh, the 70 year home has undergone extensive renovation since the days Dahmer lived there

00:17:53.500 with recent listing photos showing the home complete with modern wooden flooring and stainless steel

00:17:58.060 appliances. Musician Chris Butler bought the home for 244,500 back in 2005 with the rock rocker telling

00:18:04.560 the observer, the house has a great vibe. I mean, after all the house didn't kill anybody and I don't

00:18:08.300 believe in ghosts and there's absolutely no reason to think there's anything untoward here.

00:18:13.000 Butler put the home up for sale for three 29 and 2020 in 2012 before later removing it from the

00:18:18.960 market. Okay. Uh, and then this was the first murder victim, uh, Steven Hicks rest in peace to him.

00:18:24.100 Uh, he was the first of one of Dahmer 17 victims. Um, and then in 2014, the home was listed once again,

00:18:29.840 this time for two 99, uh, 300,000 according to Zillow listing the home once again, failed to find a

00:18:35.240 buyer. And it was again, taken down for sale. So I think the important thing you guys need to

00:18:39.980 understand. So here is his mom. Okay. Joyce Dahmer. And here is his father, Lionel Dahmer. Um, so he grew

00:18:47.280 up in an upper middle-class home. Okay. And his dad was basically a chemist. All right. And his mom was

00:18:53.200 pretty much like a stay at home mom, but his mom was crazy guys. Give me ones in the chat. If you guys saw

00:18:57.840 the Netflix series, give me ones in the chat. If you guys saw the Jeffrey Dahmer Netflix series, I just want to

00:19:02.840 see kind of what the knowledge is on the chat about the parents. So I don't have to go into like too

00:19:07.780 many details and be redundant. If some of y'all didn't see it. Once, if you saw it, twos, if you

00:19:12.640 didn't, ones in the chat, you saw the, uh, the dots. Oh, holy shit. Okay. All right. Resounding ones.

00:19:20.580 Okay. A couple of people didn't see it, but it looks like, all right. Y'all saw it. Okay. You guys

00:19:26.000 were probably just as disturbed as I was like the goddamn video. Cause I watched that whole, all 10 episodes.

00:19:30.580 I had to fast forward through some parts because it was tough, but, uh, like the goddamn video.

00:19:38.640 So anyway, so his mom guys had a bunch of issues. She was extremely erratic. She was using pills when

00:19:46.580 he was a child and, you know, Lionel believed that a reason why, um, Jeffrey, despite the fact that,

00:19:54.580 you know, he didn't have any abnormal abnormalities, you know, with his brain, he felt that she was the

00:20:00.300 reason that he ended up being crazy. Okay. And he put a lot of the blame on her. They had marital

00:20:04.860 issues. They fought often. She pulled the knives on him. And this was all, I know this happened in

00:20:09.560 the, uh, in a Netflix series, but it was actually true. Okay. Um, the, the, the Netflix series was

00:20:14.320 actually fairly accurate according to what actually happened. Okay. Um, yes, Jason Sudiger. I will do,

00:20:20.800 um, Ted Bundy in the future. Good, good, uh, good call. Right. So, um, so he grew up,

00:20:27.180 even though he, his family was stable financially, it was not stable emotionally. Okay. And this is

00:20:32.100 the importance of having the same parents, quite frankly, right? A lot of serial killers come up

00:20:37.200 and fucked up homes. Jeffrey Dahmer was one of the, uh, few serial killers, right? That actually

00:20:42.800 grew up in a two parent household, but his father was away often and his mom neglected him a lot.

00:20:47.520 So Jeff had a lot of issues in school, extremely, extremely awkward, very antisocial,

00:20:54.280 didn't have friends. People made fun of him. Uh, one of the ways that he would go ahead and get

00:20:58.880 validation from people when he was at school is that he would make noises. Okay. And when I say

00:21:04.600 he would make noises, he would act as though he was, um, how do I say this? Uh, without getting

00:21:09.760 banned off YouTube, he would just act like he was retarded. Fuck it. You know, I'm just going to say

00:21:12.900 it. He would act like he was retarded. You make weird noise. Right. And the people would go,

00:21:17.800 ha ha ha. And they laugh at him. Right. But the key distinction here is that they wouldn't laugh

00:21:21.340 with him. They would laugh at him. And he would do that because he thought, okay,

00:21:25.580 they were going to like me because I'm making them laugh. But the reality is, is that they would

00:21:28.580 use that to, you know, ostracize him. All right. So that's kind of where he fell in the school

00:21:35.160 situation. Obviously this isolation drove him a little bit to madness and he was drinking alcohol.

00:21:41.340 By the time he was a senior high school guys, the man was coming to school drunk as fuck. Okay.

00:21:46.940 My man was popping Budweiser heavies, popping Bud, Budweiser's right in class. And you know,

00:21:54.320 one of his students and one of the students actually, uh, his classmates asked him like,

00:21:58.840 what are you doing? He's like, this is my medicine. And he's fucking just like pop one

00:22:01.620 out and it's like, start drinking in class. So he gave zero fucks, man. Okay. Being drunk

00:22:07.840 at seven o'clock in the morning. All right. So let me go through my notes here. Make sure

00:22:11.800 I covered all that. You have anything to say on this autumn, uh, with him in his childhood

00:22:16.840 and being, being awkward. I mean, bullying will do that to you. And then alcohol mixed

00:22:21.720 with it and a crazy mom. It's not a good combination. Facts. You, any, his mom remind

00:22:27.040 you of any of your friends, my friends. Yeah. I knew your friends crazy like his mom. Uh,

00:22:30.980 maybe myself a little bit. Oh shit. What the fuck am I doing? All right. So, um, all right.

00:22:38.400 So let's get into the first murder guys, because that's, he committed his first murder while

00:22:42.220 he was pretty much still in high school. God damn it. So the first murder guys happened

00:22:47.720 in 1978. Okay. We're going to go use this here because this gives a pretty good timeline

00:22:53.680 of, uh, of his events. All right. So let's see here. Uh, okay. So, so the first killing

00:23:04.220 June, 1978, and I think June 18th was the actual day. Um, I was, no, I was wrong. The

00:23:09.760 first killing was not planned. Dahmer told inside edition 1993, which by the way, my ninjas,

00:23:14.420 I have the interview right here. I told you I'm not fucking around. All right. But yes,

00:23:21.640 we're going to go through this interview as well. It was very revealing. And, um, yeah,

00:23:26.780 all I'm going to say is that Jeff is not stupid. Okay. He definitely isn't stupid. He's

00:23:30.540 an intelligent individual from that interview, that interview. All right. I had fantasies

00:23:36.720 about picking up a hitchhiker and taking it back to the house and having complete dominance

00:23:40.140 and control over him. So let me, uh, also let you guys know that Jeff was homosexual. Okay.

00:23:47.020 All right. If you guys haven't seen the documentary, he was homosexual. And what I will say as well

00:23:52.660 is that this YouTube video right here, where is it? Um, I had it here. Where'd it go?

00:24:00.540 Um, it actually perfectly summarizes, um, his fetish for, um, what led to this. And also he,

00:24:10.340 also when he was a kid as well, guys, one of his hobbies, right, since he was such a

00:24:14.360 introvert was he would dissect roadkill. All right. And he'd look at the organs and kind

00:24:19.980 of get the anatomy and it fascinated him. So, um, his interest of looking at roadkill and looking

00:24:26.600 at guts and, you know, looking at the shiny objects and the intestines, et cetera, alongside

00:24:31.680 of his, um, homosexual tendencies kind of combined into creating a, a monster quite, quite frankly.

00:24:39.840 Um, so we're going to go ahead and, uh, play this portion right here. And this is from, uh,

00:24:45.060 the, uh, real story. Shout out to them. Jeffrey Dahmer, the Milwaukee cannibal crime documentary.

00:24:49.060 And this guy right here is one of the investigators that was involved in interviewing and doing the

00:24:54.620 case with, um, against Dahmer, right? So he knows this guy very, very well. So let's go ahead and,

00:25:00.600 uh, let's go ahead and play this portion right here. Cause this nicely, nicely and succinctly

00:25:06.960 summarizes what kind of allowed Dahmer to mesh his two, uh, two worlds collide. The homosexuality

00:25:13.960 and the need for, you know, dissecting things at Kennedy works the beat in Milwaukee for over 25

00:25:20.100 years. Back in the summer of 1991, he was assigned to the Jeffrey Dahmer case and spent six long

00:25:27.580 weeks with him. He knew him better than most. He was a product of upper white middle class. He was

00:25:34.020 on the chest saying, he looks like Ron Jeremy. Educated. He came from, um, a family of means.

00:25:43.360 Yet the fractures in his parents' relationship left a young Jeffrey feeling isolated.

00:25:49.580 And the fractures come from his dad always being gone and his mom being a fucking psycho guys.

00:25:53.940 His interests turned to animals. He viewed them very differently to how most children look upon

00:25:59.920 their pets. He stated when he was a very young child, seven or eight, uh, he had found, um, a

00:26:07.880 decomposed squirrel. And, uh, and also I want you guys to see that. So he started to get desensitized

00:26:16.820 to dead animals and more importantly, dead smells as well. Right. Which this is going to be a recurring

00:26:22.760 theme that you guys are going to hear later on. Uh, as far as like from a young age, he was okay with

00:26:28.260 seeing guts, blood and smells. Cause we all know roadkill stinks. It's really bad. However, from a young

00:26:35.240 age, he already knew what time it was. The bones were there. He kind of took it apart. He said that

00:26:41.580 he found a roadkill and he wanted to see what was inside it, like a raccoon or a dog. He brought that

00:26:46.560 home, a dead dog that he found on the side of the road was hit by a car, cut that open and looked at

00:26:52.080 the insides of that. Jeffrey started to do this from a very young age. He would roam the surrounding

00:26:57.540 countryside looking for roadkill to add to his growing macabre collection. His fascination with bones

00:27:03.520 would continue into his adulthood, but he would eventually move from animals to humans.

00:27:09.260 And this happens guys. Um, this is fairly common with, with murderers, serial killers, people that

00:27:13.820 end up, uh, killing mass murders, people that kill people and start to lose remorse. Uh, it almost

00:27:19.440 always starts with the abuse of animals. Okay. And insects, animals that, you know, then a cat,

00:27:24.660 then dogs and rabbits. Then the next thing you know, you're fucking chopping some dude's head off.

00:27:28.740 This is kind of how, this is the trajectory. A lot of the times of how a murder, uh, a murderer

00:27:34.880 becomes murder essentially. As he got to be about 13 or 14 and he was coming into his, um, sexual

00:27:43.320 awareness that, uh, he, uh, had, uh, had some kissing with another boy in the neighborhood. And he realized

00:27:53.200 that he was attracted to boys becoming aroused sexually. Um, and the cutting up of these animals

00:28:01.940 somehow became a match. Fair use, my ninjas, fair use. So what he did as a young man with animals,

00:28:10.740 he eventually did do later on in life with human beings. Bam. And there you go. So, um,

00:28:18.620 that right there, my friends is kind of how everything was able to mesh together. So we're

00:28:27.120 going to go over his first murder. Okay. And it's interesting because this first murder happened

00:28:33.240 when he was still a teenager. All right. So going back, um, the hitchhiker was 18 year old,

00:28:39.380 Steven Hicks, Dahmer's first victim. Dahmer took Hicks to his parents' house in Ohio,

00:28:42.960 where he strangled and beat him with a barbell before dismembering the body and placing in trash

00:28:46.580 bags. No one, no one had a clue as to what was happening for over a decade. Let me, you know,

00:28:51.280 let me enlarge this for y'all real fast. You guys should be able to see that now. Okay. Um,

00:28:59.300 no one had a clue as to what was happening for over a decade. Dahmer said of what would transpire

00:29:03.840 following his first killing. Dahmer would not murder again until 1987. So here's another picture

00:29:09.180 of Steven Hicks right here. Where was he killed? 448 West Bath Road, Bath Township, Ohio, which you guys

00:29:14.740 know is this address right here, right? This home. And so basically, and the other thing that you guys

00:29:25.760 are going to notice about Dahmer is that he has serious abandonment issues. And what I mean by that

00:29:29.520 is whenever he would, a lot of times he would kill his victims. Okay. Because he didn't want them to

00:29:35.960 leave. Okay. So he picks this guy up. He tells him, yo, I got some beer and weird weed at the house.

00:29:40.780 I'm going to, you know, let's go hang out, et cetera. And the Netflix special makes it look

00:29:45.140 like he makes a move on him. And then Dahmer ends up like, and he rejects him and then he walks out

00:29:49.680 and then Dahmer tries to kill him. We don't know if that part is true. If Dahmer, if Dahmer actually

00:29:53.620 tried to, you know, make a move on him sexually, but what we do know is that Hicks wanted to leave

00:29:58.000 because he wanted to catch him a rock concert that was going on about 25 miles away. And, and since

00:30:04.740 Dahmer didn't want him to leave, he hit him with the dumbbell. He didn't think he was going to,

00:30:08.780 he didn't have the intention of killing him though. He was more interested in keeping him

00:30:12.120 there. And you guys are going to see that there's a common trend with these murders where they want

00:30:17.320 to leave. They got shit to do, et cetera. And Dahmer wants them to stay with him. So killing them is a

00:30:22.960 by-product of his greed and him wanting them there. And also him wanting to exert control. But the only

00:30:28.300 way that he's going to be able to exert the control to the level that he wants is he needs to

00:30:31.860 kill them, unfortunately. Right? So that's what he came to realize. And you guys are going to notice,

00:30:36.300 see later on that he starts to implement other things, right? To try to not kill the individuals.

00:30:42.580 All right. Um, so let's see here, uh, to keep his new friend from abandoning him and inebriated Jeff

00:30:50.760 knocked Stephen unconscious with a 10 pound barbell weight, just as the boy was bending down to pick

00:30:55.400 up his jacket. Jeffrey decided this wasn't good enough for him or perhaps not permanent enough.

00:30:58.940 So he knelt down next to Stephen's body and pressed the barbell weight into his throat until he had been

00:31:03.680 strangled to death. He cut the boy into pieces and shoved it all into black trash bags, piling the

00:31:08.080 remains in his car. I'll enlarge this as well. So you guys could see more.

00:31:14.780 And I went ahead guys and like, I double check this with, uh, with other things. And this is

00:31:19.360 probably one of the, it's nice to summarize. So that's why I'm using this. Uh, but I checked the,

00:31:23.420 I double checked these facts for y'all. Then he began driving the evidence of what he'd done to a

00:31:27.260 local dump site. A police officer observed Jeffrey weaving over the center line of the road and

00:31:31.640 proceeded to pull him over asking what he had in the bags and why he was out of state. Jeff

00:31:36.320 explained by saying the bags were full of grass clippings and that he had been troubled by his

00:31:40.100 recent divorce and thought driving the trash out to the dump would take his mind off it. He managed

00:31:44.500 to pass the field sobriety test and the cop unknowingly let her murderer carry the body parts

00:31:49.500 of a young man go free. Shaken by the encounter, Jeffrey aborted the plan and instead drove back home

00:31:54.720 and buried the bags underneath his house. Yo, shout out to that officer.

00:32:01.760 That is a L right there, my friends. Um, and you guys are going to see this, that

00:32:07.140 Dahmer got lucky on multiple occasions with law enforcement interactions and getting away with it.

00:32:14.100 All right. Yes. Grass clipping, Jonathan Hogan. Yes.

00:32:18.180 And, uh, the Netflix series actually shows it where the officer says, Hey, you're 18.

00:32:23.880 I don't want to ruin your life. So go home, get the fuck out of here. You know,

00:32:27.480 whereas like nowadays, if you drive drunk, bro, with them dash cams, them boys taking you to jail.

00:32:31.600 That's a L every single time. So don't drive drunk guys in 2022. I'm telling you,

00:32:36.080 they're taking you in. They can't do it. They can't give you no favors because they got the

00:32:39.060 dash cam on. Right. So, um, so yeah, he was able to, uh, get out of the situation and he drove back

00:32:45.900 home. Right. So this is Steven Hicks right here. Rest in peace to him. He ended up, uh, passing away.

00:32:51.520 He was the only person that Dahmer killed in Ohio. Okay. So, um, after that, right,

00:33:00.100 the next timeline of events is what happens is Dahmer. He goes off to Ohio state university.

00:33:06.820 Okay. He ends up flunking out, gets like a, not even a, he's like a 0.4 or something like that.

00:33:12.280 GPA. He's drinking all over the place. He can't necessarily, um, he can't, uh, he can't function,

00:33:19.080 right. He fails all his classes and his dad had paid for him to go to school and get him an extra

00:33:25.280 semester on top of that. But after just three months he left, right? He got kicked out. So

00:33:29.520 his dad, obviously furious is like, motherfucker, you're joining the goddamn military. So he sends

00:33:37.100 his ass to the military and he goes off. Right. And, uh, he joined the military in 1979 after his

00:33:43.520 father made him and he ended up becoming a medic in, in the military. Once again, what do, what do we

00:33:49.300 know about this? He has an interest in, you know, human anatomy, dissecting people, et cetera. And

00:33:54.160 he also gets introduced to, um, to drugs. Okay. Uh, drugs like Halcyon, et cetera. Right. Which is a

00:34:00.860 powerful sleeping pill, which is one of the things that he used to pull people, uh, to sleep so that

00:34:06.540 he can kill them. All right. And, um, and he went off to the military and obviously, uh, Jeff, uh,

00:34:14.580 let's see here. I think I have a photo here somewhere of him in the military, which is, uh, hilarious.

00:34:23.980 Uh, God damn it. Where did it go? I'm trying to find it for y'all.

00:34:28.460 God damn it. Did I lose it? I have it here. What are your thoughts on this? Uh, oh, here

00:34:38.220 it is. I got it. But what are your thoughts on this so far from him being a fuck up with

00:34:41.900 college and everything else like that on him? Um, it's just a sign that it's going to get

00:34:48.020 worse. His life is not going well. So it's going to start killing people, I guess.

00:34:53.440 And this sums up right here, his, uh, career in the military guys. This is Jeffrey Dahmer

00:34:59.220 in the military. That's a big, this photo was taken of him. And, uh, when he was in,

00:35:08.180 I think it was in Germany. Um, and you know, he has the bottle there, et cetera. So he ends

00:35:13.080 up getting guys a, uh, an honorable discharge and you know, your boy Myron ended up getting

00:35:20.500 his military documents, AKA. So here he is right here, guys. I'm going to go ahead and

00:35:28.060 enlarge this stuff for y'all. Okay. Um, here's his, obviously here's his, you know, he was

00:35:35.140 an E3. Here's a social security number. Some, please guys don't steal his identity. Uh, he's

00:35:39.660 passed away now. Um, right. And it's a little bit faded, but here's his, uh, signature, right?

00:35:45.480 Et cetera. Um, this is the department of the army headquarters, second battalion, 68th,

00:35:50.600 uh, um, armor appointment of escort. This letter is advised you that you have been appointed

00:35:55.580 as escort for PFC Jeffrey L Dahmer, uh, uh, private first class who is now pending elimination

00:36:01.820 under the provisions of AR 635 dash 200. Um, and then they go ahead at, this is basically,

00:36:07.660 this probably went to one of the commanding officers over him to kick him off base after

00:36:11.700 he had been, um, hit with the, with the, uh, discharge and he got discharged on March 26th,

00:36:18.160 1981. Um, uh, let's see here. And that's his number. Let's see. These are some more,

00:36:26.340 my military guys know exactly what this is, but the point here guys is that he ended up getting

00:36:30.260 an honorable discharge. Okay. He got an honorable discharge, um, which is honestly is wild to me

00:36:39.140 because they kicked him out right here. Private Dahmer has had several alcohol incidents and is not

00:36:43.880 willing to control his alcohol intake. I declare PFC Dahmer as a failure to the active and follow

00:36:49.000 up phase of the ADA PCP. There is a chapter nine pending on this service member. Um, and he was

00:36:57.760 clinically evaluated for alcohol abuse, January 29th, uh, 1981. So he guys, um, and this is in New York,

00:37:07.220 it looks like a 56 general hospital. Yeah. So he failed, he failed and they kicked him out the

00:37:13.200 military and he ended up getting an honorable discharge, which to me is crazy that he got

00:37:17.080 an honorable discharge because typically for alcohol abuse, you would get a dishonorable

00:37:21.380 discharge. Okay. But, uh, you know, getting a dishonorable discharge guys is I would argue

00:37:26.660 worse than getting a felony, uh, uh, you know, being a convicted felon because you can't get no kinds

00:37:33.240 of jobs with a dishonorable discharge, but here's the military documents. You guys can see here,

00:37:37.200 right? Some more, some more stuff, but you guys get the idea. So he ends up getting removed

00:37:42.840 from the military, right? With a, with a honorable discharge in 1981. So after he goes to Miami beach,

00:37:50.100 spend some time there for a bit. Um, he gets, you know, he lives in a hotel. He's paying a little bit

00:37:55.460 of money. He has like some odd job. I think he was like a butcher or something like that. Um, but

00:37:59.700 he can't make it right. He doesn't make enough money. He gets kicked out of his place. He's

00:38:02.860 living on the beach for a bit. He's like, fuck this shit, dad, I'm coming home. So his dad ends

00:38:07.360 up taking him back. Right? So at this point, his dad's like, bro, like what the, like, what are you

00:38:14.280 doing? Right? Fucking failure. What are you doing? He's mad as hell, which rightfully so, I'll be

00:38:19.260 pissed too. You try to send your son to college. He flunks out. You send him to military, kicked out of

00:38:24.080 the military for alcohol abuse. Right? So there's a trend here, right? Because when he went into his

00:38:29.240 dorm room at OSU, he saw liquor bottles all over the place. So Dahmer guys was a huge, huge, huge

00:38:37.020 sound like Donald Trump, the G alcoholic. All right. That's an understatement. And you guys say

00:38:42.860 I'm kidding around when I say that, you know, drink alcohol is not in your best interest, et cetera,

00:38:47.280 and getting, being a drunk. It really isn't man. And am I saying that you're going to become a serial

00:38:52.440 killer with it? No, but, but alcohol was definitely an ingredient to this craziness that was going on

00:39:00.040 in his life. Okay. When the police went to his apartment, there were butt heavies all over the

00:39:04.780 place, empty cans everywhere. All right. And you can't, and actually that was one of the main things

00:39:09.940 that they used to establish that he was saying when he went to trial was that he drank so much,

00:39:15.820 right? To go ahead and knowing, knowing what he was doing was wrong. He drank so much to numb the

00:39:21.320 pain of killing people and dismembering them and doing all the other crazy things he did to the

00:39:25.300 corpses. Okay. So we got 1800 plus y'all in here. Like the video. If you guys are just joining the

00:39:31.480 podcast, quick little recap. We went over who, uh, you know, Jeffrey Dahmer is. We went over his

00:39:39.340 background. We went over his childhood. We went over his parents, his mom, his dad, and we went over

00:39:45.180 his first murder in 1978. And then we went over and went into him going into the military and getting

00:39:50.580 a discharge. Okay. So now guys, he gets sent to live with his grandma. Okay. AKA his, uh, father's,

00:40:00.820 um, mom. All right. And that place was right here. This nice little neighborhood here in West

00:40:11.900 Alice, Wisconsin. Okay guys. And, uh, here it is on Redfin as well. Cause your boy's a real estate

00:40:16.760 investor. It's worth about 900, 193 K. Uh, now man, it's off the market though. I mean, I will buy

00:40:23.080 this. Same bad. All right. It's a 4,835 square foot lot. This home is currently off market based on

00:40:30.180 Redfin's Milwaukee data. We estimate the home's values worth 193 K at the moment, but this is where his

00:40:34.800 grandma lived. Okay. And his grandma, uh, from his, his paternal grandma, uh, let's see here.

00:40:42.820 So he goes to live with her and the murders continue guys. Okay. So we're going to get into

00:40:48.420 the rest of the timeline of his murders. So, uh, Dahmer briefly returned to Ohio to live with his

00:40:54.980 parents following his military discharge bill is arrested for drunken disorderly conduct for which

00:40:58.400 he was fined and received a suspended jail sentence, hoping his grandmother would be a tempering

00:41:02.220 influence, uh, on their son's ongoing drinking. Dahmer's parents sent him to live with her in

00:41:06.760 Milwaukee, Wisconsin. All right. Arrested for indecently exposing himself at a Wisconsin state

00:41:10.800 fair. Dahmer was convicted and fined 50 bucks. Uh, basically what he was doing guys, he was whacking

00:41:16.140 off at a fair, right? AKA that's another, um, L Dahmer, uh, August 19 to 60 charged with disorderly

00:41:25.020 conduct arrested for masturbating in front of two boys. Dahmer told authorities he was merely urinating

00:41:28.860 charged with disorderly conduct. He was sentenced to one year of probation and

00:41:32.200 to undergo counseling. September 19 to December, uh, Dahmer kills his next victim nine years

00:41:37.540 after his first. So guys, this right here, my friends is the turning point. Okay. This

00:41:43.260 is what sends him to becoming Jeffrey Dahmer, the Milwaukee monster. After taking Steven Tuomi

00:41:50.780 24 back to a hotel room, Dahmer says he awoke the following morning to find Tuomi dead alongside

00:41:56.080 him in bed. Dahmer would later tell authorities he had only planned on drugging Tuomi and had no

00:42:00.580 recollection of beating him to death with his fists placed in the body in a suitcase.

00:42:04.240 Dahmer transported it to his grandmother's basement, where a week later he dismembered

00:42:08.120 it and placed it in the trash, except for the head, which he retained for a further week

00:42:12.240 before boiling it in an industrial detergent and bleach, eventually pulverizing the brittle

00:42:17.920 hole. Oh shit. Oh shit. Oh shit. So here's another thing as well about him. A shout out to our

00:42:23.260 boy fucking Trillstein in the house. 200 bucks goes. Trillstein here. Myron, can you do R. Kelly

00:42:28.860 part two? I'm a flirt. Yes, I already did R. Kelly. Go ahead and check out that episode. If y'all

00:42:34.580 want, I break down exactly why R. Kelly got 30 years. Um, but yeah, shout out to you, Mike, uh,

00:42:39.920 uh, Trillstein. So, um, where was I? So yeah, so with Steven Tuomi guys, here's the hotel that he took

00:42:45.520 him to right here, took him to the ambassador hotel in Milwaukee, which is right. God damn it.

00:42:57.140 Where is it? There we go. Here it is. Here's the ambassador hotel guys. And, uh, as you guys can see,

00:43:02.960 we'll go ahead and street view right here. So this is it right here in Milwaukee. Um, nicer,

00:43:08.900 nicer, nicer in hotel, I guess, at least back in the day back then. Um, and this is where Dahmer

00:43:14.520 took the guy because at this point he had been kind of under the radar from the bath houses,

00:43:21.080 et cetera. So like people knew that he was doing some fuck shit. So he had to take the guy to the

00:43:24.860 hotel to kind of avoid detection. All right. Because he was going to bath houses, right. To,

00:43:29.860 and drugging guys. All right. Giving them that halcyon and putting in the sleep and

00:43:32.940 one guy almost had an overdose. So he had to figure out another way to get this guy back to

00:43:37.160 where he needed them. All right. So he ended up taking them here to the ambassador hotel,

00:43:42.020 which is where he would commit his second murder. And once that happened, guys, the floodgates

00:43:46.360 were, the floodgates were gone. All right. So drunk Dahmer right here.

00:43:52.960 And here's Steven right here. This is him. All right.

00:43:59.400 Oh, it was okay. Room 507. I didn't even, there you go. They got it down to the room.

00:44:03.640 Um, so he met him at a gay bar club called club two one nine. Okay. And this club right here, guys,

00:44:08.300 is right here. This is the club nowadays, right? It's now called the, uh, wall street stock bar,

00:44:14.880 right. All my Milwaukee people. Y'all know, y'all know what it's like now, but this was it back in

00:44:20.940 the day. If I can find it. Oh, right here. This was it back in the day. This was club two and nine.

00:44:28.280 It was a, it was a gay club back in the day. All right. But this is where he met the, met,

00:44:33.740 met, uh, this guy, Steven. All right. Steven Tumoy. And I apologize if I'm spelling it,

00:44:40.180 mispronouncing it. Um, they went back to his room number 507, where they got blackout drunk.

00:44:45.480 The next morning, Dahmer had no memory of the night before due to his drunken stupor,

00:44:48.840 but found Tumoy hanging halfway off the bed with his chest brutally beaten in and blood seeping

00:44:53.040 from his mouth. Dahmer left them immediately to buy the largest suitcase he could find. And he

00:44:57.180 crammed Tumoy's body into a Jeffrey rather boldly had the bellboy carry the heavy thing out of his,

00:45:02.100 out his cab for him and route back to his grandmother's house where he now lived. The cab driver

00:45:06.300 made a comment about the nauseating odor emanating from the suitcase, which Jeffrey

00:45:10.080 calmly brushed off. He let Tumoy's body rot for a week before dismembering him in the basement and

00:45:15.500 destroying the remains. He was never charged for the murder of Steven Tumoy because Steven's body or

00:45:20.140 any other physical evidence was never found. The sentencing judge refused to charge him without

00:45:23.920 anything proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he did it. Additionally, Jeffrey held no technical

00:45:28.940 memory of committing the crime. He stated that he probably did it, but he also offered the suggestion

00:45:33.360 in a pathetic attempt to swear responsibility that Steven had killed himself. So, um, the other thing

00:45:38.720 too, funny story that I want you guys to know as well. Shout out to, uh, Michael Trilstein again.

00:45:44.980 I remember learning about Jeffrey and criminal justice, sick boy Trilla. Yeah. He's definitely

00:45:49.280 sick with this stuff. Um, the other thing too, also guys, so just to go to show you guys how, um,

00:45:54.440 crazy Jeff was and how he evaded, like he just got lucky as hell. He basically like when, when he was

00:45:59.940 given the bag over the dude, the cabbie was like, yo, like was, is what's in here a body. And Jeff was

00:46:06.000 like, yeah, there is a, there is a body in there. And then they actually laughed it off, et cetera,

00:46:09.300 but there really was a fucking body in there. So that's another little story that is, um,

00:46:14.820 not a lot of people don't know about with the cabbie, but, um, yeah, I mean, uh, the thing is

00:46:20.040 about Jeffrey Dahmer that I noticed from listening to his interviews and listening to him speak and,

00:46:24.120 you know, listening to him convey, uh, when he conveys himself to other people, uh, he's very intelligent.

00:46:29.940 He's very well-spoken. He has a very, um, monotone yet safe voice. If you know what I'm

00:46:36.340 saying, he doesn't sound like an awful person. Okay. He has that Milwaukee accent, right. And,

00:46:43.080 uh, or that like Midwest accent. So you think that he's friendly, you know, they refer to soda as pop,

00:46:47.860 right. That's, that's how people from the Midwest speak. Um, and it's a very disarming demeanor,

00:46:54.280 but what people don't realize is once he gets you back into that apartment, apartment 213,

00:46:58.520 AKA, or his grandmother's house, right. The demon comes out. Next thing you know,

00:47:03.600 this dude turns into fucking, and next thing you know, he's putting some fucking sleeping pills in

00:47:09.580 your shit and he's trying to kill you. Right. So, um, so that's why a lot of people fell for his

00:47:15.780 charm. All right. So, uh, anyway, so let's go ahead and we got a 2000, you guys in here. So do me a

00:47:23.340 quick favor, man. Please like the video. If for anything else, like the video for the fact that I had to

00:47:28.400 watch all 10 episodes of that Netflix series, and I was extremely uncomfortable every single time

00:47:33.600 there was certain scenes going on, I don't care about the violence. I just did not like the,

00:47:39.440 you know, the dudes tapping swords. If y'all know what I'm saying. All right. So like the video for

00:47:46.780 that, because it was extremely uncomfortable watching that. And I know y'all know what I'm

00:47:49.760 talking about in the chat for some of you guys that all hit those ones watching that, that Netflix

00:47:53.240 joint. All right. So like the goddamn video, if for anything else, just for that. All right.

00:47:58.600 So, okay. So let's go back to the murders. We're going to go over all 17 victims, because one thing

00:48:03.740 I don't like is that the documentary didn't really show, not the documentary, excuse me. Well, the

00:48:07.740 documentaries as well that are, that show this, but the Netflix series didn't show all 17 of the

00:48:11.840 murders. They only showed, uh, three or four of them, which I don't think is fair to the victims.

00:48:16.960 So we're going to go ahead and go over each of them. All right. All 17, baby. And then we're

00:48:21.800 going to also go ahead and play a portion of the inside edition, uh, interview as well. So we're

00:48:26.380 here for the long, though. So like the video. All right. Let me go back to share screen with y'all.

00:48:30.800 Uh, y'all see what I'm seeing? No, hold on. Okay. There we go. So here's the next, um, the next victim.

00:48:39.780 Okay. Uh, Dahmer murdered 14 year old Jamie Doxner on January 16th, 1988. Jamie was hanging

00:48:46.420 around outside of the popular gay club, uh, 219 from where Dahmer also lured Steven Tumoy unable to

00:48:52.640 get inside due to him being a minor. He was known to frequently spend time around the club in search

00:48:57.320 of romantic partners. Jeff obviously decided it would be easier to lure a child from the street

00:49:01.900 than to lure a man away from the friends and atmosphere. So we offer Jamie 50 bucks to make a

00:49:06.500 video with him at his house. Can you do me a quick favor on him? Can you double check, um,

00:49:10.640 uh, what $50 was worth in 1988 to today? Just type in like inflation calculator, $50 in 1990,

00:49:18.320 1988. Um, just so that we can get a bit, cause I know something on the child, like $50, like

00:49:23.080 what, what, but you guys got to remember inflation is a real thing. So we're going to go ahead and

00:49:26.800 figure out what it was really worth. And this is only a 14 year old kid, man. Um, was equal

00:49:31.960 to $120 and 80 cents. Okay. So yeah, so that, that, that changes. So almost triple, uh, together

00:49:39.720 they went back to Jeffrey's grandmother's house where Dahmer drugged them, strangled him and

00:49:43.500 kept his body wrapped in a blanket and the wine cellar for one week, poor Jamie's little

00:49:47.200 body was left alone to rot on the floor. He then stripped the boy of his flesh, dissolved

00:49:50.780 it and crushed his bones using a sledgehammer. He threw up plastic bags containing the remains

00:49:55.360 for the garbage truck to take to a dump site. All right. So recipes to Jamie. So let's go ahead

00:50:01.340 and move on to the next, uh, victim. Let's see here. Uh, so now we got, uh, Richard Guerrero,

00:50:12.520 March, 1988, Richard Guerrero met his killer outside of Milwaukee gay bar. Dahmer offered

00:50:16.200 girl $50 to return to his grandmother's house and spend the night with him after drugging

00:50:20.160 Guerrero with his sleeping pills. Dahmer strangled him before performing sexual acts on the corpse.

00:50:25.280 This time Dahmer dismembered the body within 24 hours by hiding his killings. And the dismemberment

00:50:29.340 was becoming increasingly difficult. Yeah. Cause at this point, his grandma starts to kind

00:50:32.820 of figure out like, what are you, Jeffrey, what the fuck are you doing? Okay. Also quick

00:50:36.860 little story time for y'all rewind a bit. His grandma guys had caught him like sneaking

00:50:45.480 in a mannequin. Right. So he had stayed in a department store overnight. Right. He gets

00:50:52.300 this mannequin, steals the mannequin, brings it home, puts it in bed with it, puts it in bed

00:50:58.080 and he sleeps with it. And he's like touching the body and doing all this other strange,

00:51:01.820 uh, you know, things. But the thing with the mannequin, why it helped them so much was that

00:51:07.640 it didn't leave. It gave them that, that, that comfort of having some type of, um, some being

00:51:13.720 with him. Right. And also mannequins guys back in the eighties before, you know, this whole

00:51:17.780 body positivity bullshit were actually in shape. Okay. So the mannequin fit the exact physical

00:51:23.380 archetype that Jeffrey Dahmer liked, which was that V taper muscularity, et cetera. So

00:51:30.660 yes. And his grandma found the mannequin confronted him about it. And then she threw it out and

00:51:36.420 that drove him mad. Okay. And obviously a systematic, it was gone. Right. That might've been the reason

00:51:45.320 why he started doing this stuff where he's like started becoming more active with going after

00:51:50.000 people and getting them to try to come back to his place and having sex with them. And then,

00:51:53.960 you know, uh, drugging them and killing them. All right. And this was all done again at his

00:51:58.520 grandma's house right here. All right. Uh, also this is it. And you guys look at the neighborhood,

00:52:02.580 right? And let me show you all real fast. My bad. It was right here. If you guys look at the

00:52:07.560 neighborhood, right? This is like a typical American dream white picket fence neighborhood in a good

00:52:15.300 area, right? It's a suburb of Milwaukee. That's very, very safe. Unsuspecting. Right.

00:52:19.300 Well, man, you know, you come back to a place like this. You ain't thinking like, oh yeah,

00:52:22.720 this stew's about to put some sleeping pills in my joint and kill me and put me in the basement.

00:52:27.080 You would never think that, right? You got a nice little granny upstairs, but you want to think

00:52:30.580 that. So yeah. Yeah. Someone said no driveway. Yeah. No driveway, bro. I guess. Oh, fun little

00:52:37.980 fact for y'all. Jeffrey Dahmer did not have a driver's license guys. He did not have a driver's

00:52:42.700 license. Okay. Um, so yeah, I know a lot of these like little random facts from all the research.

00:52:50.620 All right. So let's continue on. Uh, um, so yeah, so he killed, uh, Jamie Doxer and then,

00:52:57.360 yes, this is, uh, this is, uh, Guerrero right here. This is a Richard Guerrero right here. Here's

00:53:01.780 a photo of him. All right. He was 23. Uh, he was 23. And the last time they saw him was on the

00:53:06.240 evening of March 24th, 1988. And this was, um, they offered him 50 bucks and he didn't have money.

00:53:11.500 Look, as you can see, he only had $3 to his name. So he agreed to go to Jeff's offer, probably

00:53:15.660 grateful for the money. Dahmer drugged, strangled and sexually assaulted Guerrero before dissolving

00:53:19.760 his body, using an acid solution and flushing the consistency down, uh, the toilet after Dahmer's

00:53:24.720 final arrest, Richard's sister, Janie Hagen broke America's heart by pleading. I want to know what

00:53:30.060 he did with my brother. I heard on the news that he made that maybe my brother had been flushed down the

00:53:34.240 toilet. I want to know she would never get an answer because Jeffrey never told her and the

00:53:37.900 boy's remains were never discovered. Now, next one is, uh, Kaizen sent us some phone. Okay. And

00:53:46.880 I'm probably butchering that and I apologize. Um, this guy actually wasn't killed. He was only

00:53:52.700 attacked. All right. So he was a 13 year old boy that Jeffrey lured into his first apartment

00:53:56.900 less than 24 hours after moving in. So now guys, right. So he committed two murders at his grandma's

00:54:02.820 house. Right. He killed, um, he killed Steven to him. So a little quick. So now we're up to like

00:54:09.880 murder four or five here. So he kills Steven Hicks first murder 1978 at his parents' home. Okay.

00:54:16.620 Right. And also I just want to make a quick little note of this as well. I forgot to mention this

00:54:19.960 when he killed Steven Hicks, his parents were nowhere near weren't found. His dad was living

00:54:24.700 at a hotel and his mom left with his brother. Okay. So he was living by himself for several months,

00:54:30.240 but for about three to four months, he was by himself, living at the house, going to school,

00:54:34.040 drunk as fuck, not knowing what the hell was going on. So he had the house to himself. Okay.

00:54:38.580 So that's how he was able to commit this murder of this guy. And no one knew. Nobody knew. As a

00:54:43.620 matter of fact, they didn't know that he killed them until he confessed to the police. All right.

00:54:48.300 So the first murder at his home, second murder ambassador hotel. All right. Which we discussed

00:54:54.120 before third murder committed as grandma's house, fourth murder committed as grandma's house.

00:54:58.960 Now he brings them back to his, uh, to his apartment. All right. His first apartment,

00:55:03.960 which is a 808 North 24th street. Um, uh, let's see here. And I don't think, is this correct?

00:55:12.480 Cause it was supposed to be 924 24th. Is it 808? Can you double, double search that for me?

00:55:17.480 Just do a quick fact check on that for me. Um, autumn, uh, give me one sec guys. All right,

00:55:25.200 there we go. So, um, he learned his first apartment at less than 24 hours after moving

00:55:31.340 in. Kaizen was drugged and molested, but managed to escape and quickly found police. Jeffrey was

00:55:34.780 charged with sexual assault and enticing a child for immoral purposes, spending one week in jail

00:55:38.300 before posting bail, who sentenced to four months later, pleading for mercy by standing,

00:55:42.800 stating that he was an alcoholic and homosexual with sexual problems and offered the transparent

00:55:47.020 excuse that he thought Kaizen was 19 years old. Okay. Come on, Jeff.

00:55:51.280 Stop the cap. Uh, he received the light term of five years probation and one year in a workers

00:55:56.580 release program, forcing him to move out of his new apartment. Mr. And miss sent the cell phone

00:56:01.760 were promised that the man who traumatized their son would be locked away for a long time.

00:56:05.700 So they chose not to take the case to court. They never found out what Jeffrey looked like,

00:56:10.380 leaving Kaizen the only person in the family that would be able to identify him. And also just so

00:56:15.020 y'all know, you guys are probably wondering where did he work? Well, he worked at, let me see if I got

00:56:20.980 the pictures here. Nope, that's not it.

00:56:31.060 Bear with me, guys. Sorry. I have a lot of stuff here. Okay. This is where he worked. He worked at

00:56:35.720 a chocolate factory, guys. All right. Which is right. This thing is being slow. Bear with me.

00:56:45.640 Okay. This is the apartments, right? This is where he brought all his victims, which by the way,

00:56:49.600 this apartment complex is gone now. Okay. The Oxford apartments, but this is where he worked.

00:56:55.580 Ambrosia is a chocolate factory. All right. The former Ambrosia chocolate co in downtown Milwaukee,

00:56:59.960 where serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer worked in the 1980s, the building is now gone. And, um, this is

00:57:04.620 where he was working on that work release program. All right. So, um, your chocolate is more than likely

00:57:09.660 being made by a convicted felon somewhere in the U S.

00:57:11.820 like the video for me guys. All right. So this guy actually survived next. We got, um,

00:57:23.240 uh, what was his name?

00:57:26.740 On March 25th, 1989, Easter Sunday, while Jeffrey was a free man awaiting trial for sexually assaulting

00:57:34.320 13 year old Kaizen, he went on to hunt once again at La Cage Ox Falls, a local gay bar here. He met an

00:57:39.760 aspiring model, 26 year old named Anthony Sears and successfully conned him into coming home with

00:57:43.660 him. Jeff knew the police were probably keeping tabs on his apartment while he awaited trial. So

00:57:47.660 Anthony had a friend, Jeff Connors drive the pair to Dahmer's grandmother's house, where he dropped them

00:57:52.060 off, not before reminding Anthony that he was meant to have, uh, lunch with his mother the next day and

00:57:57.560 to call if he needed a ride. Dahmer then escorted Anthony inside where he drugged, strangled, and

00:58:01.600 dismembered him. Dahmer admittedly found Sears to be exceptionally attractive, even scalping him because

00:58:06.620 he loved his ponytail. Oh my God. He was truly mesmerized with Anthony so much so that he took his skull to

00:58:14.540 work with him, uh, a few days after so that he could take breaks throughout his shift to gaze at it. He later

00:58:20.700 said, if I could have kept him longer, all of him, I would have. Three years later, investigators found

00:58:25.060 Anthony's skull, mummified scalp, and preserved penis inside of apartment 213. So as you guys can

00:58:31.140 see, this guy wasn't all there, right? Um, yeah, I can see on the chat going wild. Dahmer, right? And I

00:58:38.480 also want to make this very clear for y'all as well, was very physical with his murders. And what I mean

00:58:43.240 by this is that he went after very good looking men and he would bring them back to his place and

00:58:50.440 he wanted them to stay with him. And the only way that he can execute them staying with him was

00:58:55.140 typically he would drug them and then he would strangle them, right? While they were asleep.

00:59:00.140 Because I mean, in his interviews, he says he didn't want them to feel pain like that. He just wanted them

00:59:04.600 to be with him. And he would, and you could see that him killing them, dismembering them, holding parts

00:59:13.760 of their bodies, right? And then as some, eventually he starts eating parts of them. Okay. This goes to

00:59:20.600 show the deep need to keep people, right? Uh, someone put in the chat.

00:59:38.360 Yo, you guys have no fucking chill, bro.

00:59:43.700 Yo, yo, what the fuck?

00:59:50.960 Yo, yo, yo.

01:00:20.960 Yo, what the fuck, man?

01:00:33.200 Uh, okay. Thank you for taking that off the screen.

01:00:36.720 Yo, I'm fucking crying.

01:00:38.560 Yo.

01:00:39.820 Shout out to Elmiron, break it down.

01:00:47.160 It's not funny. This is very serious.

01:00:49.540 It's not funny to you.

01:00:51.280 You just, you, Mr.

01:00:52.320 I know, I know you, stop it.

01:00:54.280 Ms. Dark humor.

01:00:55.620 I know you fucking laughing.

01:00:56.740 She capping right now.

01:00:57.780 She was laughing the whole time.

01:00:58.700 She just was laughing away from the mic.

01:01:01.060 Oh, man.

01:01:01.740 I'm fucking crying over here.

01:01:03.820 Shout out to Elmiron, breaking down cases and facts.

01:01:07.540 Special shout out, Big Mo

01:01:08.840 and Rod Eric.

01:01:11.660 Mod, congrats on winning the 1,000 for Tristan Tate.

01:01:13.780 Shout out to our man, Tristan Tate, man.

01:01:15.360 All right.

01:01:17.360 Y'all totally threw me off.

01:01:19.260 What the hell was going on?

01:01:20.520 Uh, what was I talking about?

01:01:21.700 Yes.

01:01:22.340 So Dahmer had, uh, a deep need to keep people with him.

01:01:27.020 And then the, his victims that he picked were typically attractive, right?

01:01:30.260 And had certain physiques.

01:01:31.500 So he would go and escalate into keeping him with him, uh, through preserving body parts.

01:01:38.100 Next, we got, uh, uh, on May 20th, 1992, weeks after moving into the now famous apartment

01:01:47.240 213 at Oxford apartment complex, Dahmer approached 33-year-old Raymond Smith, also known as Ricky

01:01:51.960 Beaks at Club 219.

01:01:53.480 Per his usual, Dahmer offered him money to come home with him to drink and take nude photographs

01:01:57.440 where he then drugged Raymond, strangled him, and had oral sex with his corpse.

01:02:01.480 Oh, God.

01:02:02.480 Oh, shit.

01:02:03.180 Oh, shit.

01:02:03.720 Dahmer then dismembered the man, placing his severed head in the refrigerator afterwards

01:02:07.580 and dissolving his body in acid.

01:02:09.420 He used Smith's bones as decor throughout his hellish apartment.

01:02:12.700 Dahmer later stated that Raymond, uh, Raymond's was the first corpse he had sex with.

01:02:18.080 Okay.

01:02:18.680 Um, did you end up figuring out that other apartment number, uh, Autumn?

01:02:22.700 I have not found it yet.

01:02:24.400 I don't know.

01:02:25.100 Here, let me, here, let me give you the address one more time.

01:02:27.980 It's 803, or sorry, 808 North 24th Street.

01:02:31.960 808, 808, and heartbreaks, just kidding.

01:02:35.340 808 North 24th Street, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

01:02:38.880 Yeah, let me see if that, because, because that, that would mean that he had another apartment

01:02:43.160 prior, which I did not know about.

01:02:44.400 I didn't know that he lived anywhere else besides the Oxford apartments, uh, that we

01:02:48.360 all know from, uh, the documentaries, et cetera.

01:02:52.840 So next he had, uh, Edward Smith, all right?

01:02:55.640 Uh, Eddie Smith, uh, 36 years old, deemed chic by his friends, was the life of the party

01:03:00.420 everywhere he went, fun-loving, kind-hearted man.

01:03:02.980 He was what you might call friends with Dahmer.

01:03:05.560 Before subsequently becoming his victim, he'd hung out with Jeffrey at his apartment.

01:03:10.160 Hold on one second, guys.

01:03:13.580 He hung out with Jeffrey at his apartment on multiple occasions, always having a great

01:03:16.560 time.

01:03:16.800 On the evening of June 14th, 1990, Eddie left a Milwaukee joint called the Phoenix Bar

01:03:21.780 and met with Dahmer sometime just after that, which was also another gay bar in the area.

01:03:25.400 On the particular visit, Jeffrey gave him a glass of liquor spiked with strong sedatives

01:03:30.040 and he soon felt unconscious.

01:03:31.480 From there, Dahmer strangled his friend to death before cutting the flesh from his bones

01:03:34.800 with a knife and dissolving his body in the 57-gallon drum of muriatic acid.

01:03:40.080 He used Eddie's bones as decor throughout his apartment, as he often did with his, excuse

01:03:45.000 me, with his victims.

01:03:46.120 During Jeff's trial, a relative of Eddie's mourned all Edward Smith wanted was to be Dahmer's

01:03:51.300 friend.

01:03:51.660 Yeah, very, very sad stuff.

01:03:53.000 And you guys can see here that he kind of has a trend.

01:03:56.400 And what he does, guys, a lot of his game was, hey, come back with me, take pictures.

01:03:59.980 Hey, come back with me, have drinks.

01:04:01.400 Hey, come back with me.

01:04:02.540 I have this and that.

01:04:03.940 And then once he gets him into the apartment, which, by the way, he had like nine different

01:04:07.080 locks on that door, guys, right?

01:04:09.480 He would go ahead and transform into something else.

01:04:12.180 And he would go ahead, right?

01:04:16.360 And get extremely aggressive, turn into Scorpion in this bitch.

01:04:19.140 Get over here!

01:04:20.180 And then next thing you know, finish him.

01:04:22.740 And then fatality.

01:04:24.680 Yeah.

01:04:25.280 So let's see here.

01:04:27.660 Do we have any chats?

01:04:29.900 I'll go ahead and pull up any any chats real fast.

01:04:34.340 Hey, guys, thank you so much for the donations, man.

01:04:36.380 Like I said before, put a lot of work into this thing.

01:04:38.560 Uh, so I'll go ahead and pull up some of these chats here.

01:04:44.620 And you have anything you want to tell the autumn?

01:04:46.540 What are your thoughts so far?

01:04:47.280 Go ahead.

01:04:47.660 Well, I found that he did live there for a short period.

01:04:50.780 Um, in 1988.

01:04:52.780 Okay.

01:04:53.180 Says after pleading guilty to charges of second degree sexual assault, uh, he moved back in

01:04:58.520 with his grandmother.

01:04:59.780 Okay.

01:05:00.180 And then he went to the Oxford apartments.

01:05:02.760 Yes.

01:05:03.400 Okay.

01:05:03.840 Gotcha.

01:05:04.420 All right.

01:05:05.680 Um, so real quick, guys, we got, I'll hit some, some of these chats real fast.

01:05:09.740 All right.

01:05:10.240 We got Christian Garcia, five books, uh, goes great work.

01:05:12.820 Thank you so much.

01:05:13.660 Uh, big Mo BITW.

01:05:15.180 This is, he goes, this is the week we'll be unleashing the power of Viking to shift the

01:05:18.240 paradigm of the world.

01:05:18.920 Yeah.

01:05:19.040 Shout out to Viking.

01:05:19.660 He's going to be helping us out with the internet.

01:05:20.800 Um, and then we got, uh, Christina Brownlee top G meets bottom G.

01:05:25.320 Yes, sir.

01:05:25.660 Yes.

01:05:26.080 Uh, I appreciate that.

01:05:27.900 Top G meets top Jew.

01:05:28.920 Yes, sir.

01:05:29.200 Yes.

01:05:29.380 That's from Mike James.

01:05:30.580 Um, Philly area two 79.

01:05:32.800 Thank you so much.

01:05:33.660 Uh, a little cray cray goes and they actually use your screen, your picture too.

01:05:39.280 That's creepy.

01:05:40.520 Uh, I told you, man, the chat is, is ruthless.

01:05:43.620 Uh, Mike, uh, Mike James message 23.

01:05:46.920 Can I, I can be a little cray for you.

01:05:48.780 What's your SSN?

01:05:49.720 Okay.

01:05:50.360 Uh, give Candace a raise trail.

01:05:52.820 Okay.

01:05:53.540 Uh, Mike James, uh, that was from before.

01:05:57.920 Okay.

01:05:58.740 Chris goes 20 bucks.

01:05:59.800 Hey, Myron, do you think people are born serial killers or is it developed environmental

01:06:02.660 different kind of evil?

01:06:03.840 Crazy to think life can get to that point.

01:06:05.960 Um, honestly, bro, I don't think people are born serial killers.

01:06:08.920 I think it's developed.

01:06:10.400 You know, I think some people are going to be more prone to crime than others, but I don't

01:06:14.940 think, I personally don't think that, um, that, uh, people are born serial killers.

01:06:19.720 Um, cause you guys, the other thing too, I want to say is like serial killing is kind

01:06:23.020 of like an American thing.

01:06:24.160 You leave the United States, bro.

01:06:25.700 Like you don't really see the same, uh, serial killers with the same, uh, prevalence, you

01:06:30.860 know, with the same, same amount of prevalence.

01:06:32.000 Like, uh, I, I might break down a case for y'all on this.

01:06:34.860 And there was this guy that was doing serial killings in, in, in, in, um, Europe, right.

01:06:40.620 Back in like the nineties and the investigators didn't know what the fuck was going on.

01:06:45.360 They're like, what the hell's going on here?

01:06:46.560 They had to go and reach out to the FBI, right.

01:06:49.260 The criminal profiles profilers to kind of like figure out like, yo, we got a serial

01:06:52.960 killer.

01:06:53.180 We don't know what to do.

01:06:54.340 So serial killers is kind of like an American thing.

01:06:56.980 Now, does that mean that Europe doesn't have serial killers?

01:06:58.640 Of course, it's going to be serial killers, right.

01:07:00.060 In other places, but it doesn't have the same prevalence as it does as the United States.

01:07:03.760 And there's a bunch of reasons for that.

01:07:05.240 You know, people say the interstate highway system was, is responsible, you know, um, feminism,

01:07:11.560 the degradation of the, of the family.

01:07:13.380 There's so many different things that play into it.

01:07:15.360 All right.

01:07:16.120 I knew you guys were going to say Jack the Ripper.

01:07:18.220 Yes, guys, Jack the Ripper.

01:07:19.320 But that, that's, that was a long time ago, man.

01:07:21.720 We're talking about like the 1800s.

01:07:22.980 This dude was running around slashing people up.

01:07:26.380 Um, okay.

01:07:27.880 Let's see here.

01:07:28.640 Uh, we got here.

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01:07:31.580 Uh, I could, that, that was going to take some time though.

01:07:34.440 CKB goes five bucks.

01:07:35.640 Myron, why do most serial killers start off by killing animals in the show?

01:07:38.640 Dom Rose beating his meat over a fish.

01:07:40.560 He killed, uh, that's a good question, bro.

01:07:43.520 It typically escalates from there.

01:07:45.080 Just like, you know, when you watch porn, right?

01:07:47.640 A lot pause.

01:07:48.680 What happens is you no longer get aroused by like just regular sex.

01:07:52.000 You start watching like more and more crazy stuff.

01:07:54.560 That's why people watch gang bangs and, you know, weird shit, you know,

01:07:58.520 on porn.

01:07:59.140 That's why I tell y'all don't watch porn because a lot of guys have erectile dysfunction

01:08:02.700 because regular girls no longer do it for them, right?

01:08:06.200 They can't even get off banging their girlfriends or, or, or, or a girl because they watch so

01:08:09.980 much porn.

01:08:10.580 They're desensitized to it.

01:08:11.820 So, um, I would say it's so similar to that.

01:08:16.500 Uh, Jay Sudiger, uh, Ted Bundy.

01:08:18.900 Yes, I will.

01:08:19.780 Antonio Wing Chun.

01:08:20.880 What's up FNF?

01:08:21.380 Can you do an update video on coach red pill in Ukraine?

01:08:23.520 I can.

01:08:24.140 I'll reach out to him.

01:08:25.200 Um, my grandfather, uh, proud of you for working on my biopic inshallah.

01:08:30.580 Thanks.

01:08:30.840 Myron's grandfather.

01:08:31.520 And it's a picture of Bin Laden.

01:08:32.620 You guys are fucking assholes.

01:08:33.680 Can't wait for 1 million.

01:08:37.140 When you expose these ass clowns, that's from say, keep CKB.

01:08:39.780 This guy 9947 goes any chance we can get to review the DEA up read that one.

01:08:44.940 Okay, cool.

01:08:45.380 I think we're caught up on the super chats guys.

01:08:46.740 Thank you so much for all the nations.

01:08:48.300 I love y'all.

01:08:50.280 It's 2300.

01:08:51.160 You guys watching the show before we get back into it.

01:08:53.960 Uh, Autumn, you have any thoughts on what's going on before I get, uh, continuing?

01:08:58.200 Just curious to hear more.

01:08:59.680 Let's get into it.

01:09:00.660 All right, cool.

01:09:01.200 Uh, so, so, uh, the next victim, okay, was, let's see here.

01:09:09.060 Um, this guy, all right.

01:09:12.100 So Ernest Miller was a 23 year old dancer.

01:09:14.880 When he met Jeffrey Dahmer outside of a bookstore, the same one Dahmer would go on to meet yet

01:09:19.100 another victim at, and got invited to his apartment under the pretense that he would

01:09:22.640 be paid $50 to pose nude for Dahmer's beloved Polaroid camera shortly after arriving and beginning

01:09:27.500 to prepare the drinks, Dahmer realized that he only had two sedatives left.

01:09:31.200 He usually used three.

01:09:33.080 He decided to go ahead and use the ones he had.

01:09:36.140 And Miller fell unconscious after enjoying his drug drink.

01:09:39.240 Presumably because of the smaller dosages, chemically induced slumber didn't last very

01:09:42.980 long.

01:09:43.220 And he woke up shortly after Dahmer panicked, not wanting to leave and fatally stabbed him

01:09:47.100 in the throat with a knife that was laying nearby.

01:09:49.300 He then hovered over Miller's body, taking photographs of this Polaroid camera as the young man lay

01:09:53.620 on the carpet, bleeding to death.

01:09:55.260 Dahmer dissolved his body in acid, except for the biceps, which were wrapped and put in

01:09:59.740 the freezer, soaked his bones in bleach, and kept the entire skeleton in his closet.

01:10:05.080 And, uh, yeah, yeah, guys, as you guys could see, right?

01:10:12.300 You could, you guys could see the, the, um, the progression in violence and, um, and being

01:10:19.560 more, uh, overt with his acts and keeping different body parts.

01:10:25.820 Okay.

01:10:26.800 So yeah, this is wild stuff right here.

01:10:29.320 Oh, did I just, God damn it.

01:10:34.040 Where do we go here?

01:10:37.580 Let me, give me one second, guys.

01:10:40.620 Refresh this thing.

01:10:41.540 I was trying to make it bigger for y'all and ended up messing it up.

01:10:45.160 Okay.

01:10:46.480 So where were we?

01:10:47.540 We were here.

01:10:48.260 Okay.

01:10:48.940 And I'm going to show you guys pictures of his apartment here, uh, soon.

01:10:53.140 All right.

01:10:53.660 So on September 24th, 1990, David Thomas was hanging out at the mall after a couple of relatives

01:10:58.120 that dropped him off when he was first approached by Dahmer.

01:11:00.180 Thomas was a 23 year old man from a good family that he was close with.

01:11:03.180 And he had two children that loved him while chatting with each other at the mall.

01:11:06.200 Dahmer somehow convinced Thomas to accompany him back to his apartment.

01:11:09.340 Once there, Dahmer gave him a sedative lace drink and he was soon unconscious.

01:11:13.680 Uh, in a sudden change of mind, Jeffrey decided that Thomas wasn't his type.

01:11:17.140 Fearing the retaliation he would most likely receive if he let him, if he let him sleep it

01:11:20.840 off, Dahmer decided to strangle him to death anyway.

01:11:23.720 Afterwards, he performed his usual routine of dismembering the man, which he video recorded

01:11:27.420 and took photographs of this before dissolving the flesh and acid, keeping the full skeleton

01:11:32.680 in his closet next to the skeleton of Ernest Miller.

01:11:36.320 Okay.

01:11:36.960 From Thomas, he also saved the biceps and wrapped them in plastic bags to be placed in

01:11:40.880 the freezer.

01:11:41.320 These two placed next to Miller's.

01:11:43.460 The extremely graphic polarized Jeffrey took of the dismembering process or what Thomas's

01:11:47.200 sister ended up having to identify his body with.

01:11:50.760 Oh my God.

01:11:51.940 So wild.

01:11:53.480 So we're on victim.

01:11:54.880 What are we on now?

01:11:55.580 Oh, okay.

01:11:56.620 So he is, hold on.

01:11:58.680 Let's keep count here.

01:11:59.920 All right.

01:12:00.480 So one, two, three, four, five.

01:12:04.120 No.

01:12:04.400 Well, this one doesn't count.

01:12:05.780 The five, six, seven, eight, nine.

01:12:12.280 So now we're on 10.

01:12:13.860 All right.

01:12:14.840 Curtis Strotter was a 19 year old aspiring model patiently waiting at the Milwaukee bus

01:12:18.200 stop on February 18, 1991, when Dahmer approached and lured the boy to apartment two and three

01:12:22.320 to take nude photos, promising $50.

01:12:24.640 Curtis, the only victim of Dahmer's that didn't, uh, that he didn't drug first.

01:12:27.740 Instead, Dahmer immediately strangled the young man with his belt while receiving oral sex

01:12:31.360 from him.

01:12:31.740 Then dismembered him.

01:12:32.700 He kept, uh, um, Strotter's skull to preserve after crushing the rest of his bones, disposing

01:12:38.700 the boy's remains in the dump.

01:12:39.740 So you guys can see the progression here in violence and, and, you know, and just recklessness.

01:12:47.280 Errol Lindsay was another unfortunate 19 year old boy that agreed to pose nude for Jeffrey's

01:12:51.260 Cameron exchange for $50.

01:12:52.540 They began talking in April, 1991, outside of the same bookstore, Dahmer lured Ernest Miller

01:12:56.500 away from six months prior.

01:12:57.780 And the situation played out for Errol in the same way.

01:13:00.040 He fell unconscious after consuming a drug drink, but this time Jeffrey wanted to try out

01:13:04.640 an experiment he had in mind.

01:13:05.880 He had decided that he wanted a living companion that locked conscious thought, rendering them

01:13:10.800 completely submissive to Jeffrey.

01:13:12.380 That was another thing about, uh, Dahmer guys.

01:13:14.640 He was really big on being dominant and having control.

01:13:19.640 That was the main stimuli for why he committed the crimes that he committed.

01:13:24.520 He didn't want them to leave.

01:13:25.860 He wanted to keep them there and he didn't care how it was done.

01:13:28.740 He wanted to make sure that he was always the one that was being dominant.

01:13:32.560 Okay.

01:13:32.880 So if that meant killing him, Hey, he looked at it like, yo, that's a means to an end.

01:13:37.680 All right.

01:13:39.320 He had decided he wanted a living companion that lacked conscious thought, rendering them

01:13:42.880 completely submissive to Jeffrey attempted to achieve this for the first time by power

01:13:47.280 drilling a hole into Errol's skull while he was passed out and injected myriatic acid

01:13:52.120 into his brain.

01:13:53.460 Errol woke up likely due to skull being drilled into, but was acting perfectly fine.

01:13:58.160 He knew where he was and who he was.

01:13:59.880 Jeffrey, in a moment of frustrated failure, drug Lindsay once more and strangled him to

01:14:03.740 death.

01:14:04.440 Dahmer then had oral sex with a young corpse before dismembering him and disposing of the

01:14:07.720 body.

01:14:08.300 He kept Lindsay's skull as a sick reminder of the event.

01:14:10.840 Lindsay's sister gained slight fame after her victim impact statement at trial due to

01:14:15.080 the fact that she charged at Dahmer screaming, I hate you, Jeffrey, and hurling expletives

01:14:19.760 at him.

01:14:20.480 It took five burly officers to hold a small woman back from killing Jeffrey with her bare

01:14:24.360 hands.

01:14:24.580 Do me a favor, Autumn, pull up his sister's, his sister's wildness or her, like her coming

01:14:33.180 after Dahmer in the court.

01:14:34.260 I want the audience to see that type in Errol Lindsay sister, Errol Lindsay sister, your sister,

01:14:41.640 Jeffrey Dahmer.

01:14:42.340 It's going to come up.

01:14:43.160 She had like a hundred percent black t-shirt on when she ran at him.

01:14:45.520 And it's also shown in the, in the, in the Netflix series as well, but this guy, so I

01:14:51.340 mentioned this before that, um, so at this point, right, Dahmer wants the people to stay

01:14:59.680 with him.

01:15:00.040 He realizes that, yo, you know, killing these guys, you know, I get it.

01:15:04.180 I'm killing them.

01:15:04.940 I'm getting to them to stay with me, but it's not the same.

01:15:07.500 I want them to be with me, but be here still alive to some degree.

01:15:11.200 I want them to be my sex zombie is how he would refer to it.

01:15:13.720 Right?

01:15:14.160 So what he tried with Errol Lindsay, which was the first time he had tried this was taking

01:15:19.660 a drill, drilling into their skull, right?

01:15:22.380 About two to three inches in past the skull into the brain almost.

01:15:25.800 Then what he did was put muriatic acid in there.

01:15:28.960 And he thought right in his twisted mind that this would make them like alive and kind of

01:15:34.940 there, but like, like not really conscious, right?

01:15:37.820 They were just there to be his sex slave.

01:15:40.840 And he realized that this doesn't work, right?

01:15:43.280 He thought my dad was a chemist.

01:15:45.180 I think I could figure this out.

01:15:46.480 I got this.

01:15:47.260 I was a former medic for the military.

01:15:48.780 I can figure this out and ended up being a big, it was an L quite frankly.

01:15:58.360 And, uh, it didn't work on Errol Lindsay and he ended up killing him, but he's going to

01:16:05.500 try this again as we're going to get into later on.

01:16:07.820 Uh, were you able to find that, um, yeah, I got a video that compares like the Netflix

01:16:13.300 to the actual thing.

01:16:15.040 Okay.

01:16:15.520 Yeah.

01:16:15.720 Let's show the actual thing.

01:16:16.680 If we can, I'll go ahead and pull it up on screen.

01:16:18.740 Do you have it ready?

01:16:20.040 Yeah.

01:16:20.400 It's like both of them in one video though, like on top of each other.

01:16:23.720 Okay.

01:16:24.060 Yeah.

01:16:24.240 Pull, uh, pull it up on screen real fast.

01:16:26.560 Uh, and then, and then, and then start playing it and then I'll share, share your screen when

01:16:30.760 you have it.

01:16:33.180 Um, okay.

01:16:34.220 So that's, uh, and then that's Errol Lindsay.

01:16:37.040 Okay.

01:16:37.360 That's his, that's his death.

01:16:38.620 So next we're going to get into, uh, Anthony Hughes.

01:16:44.480 Now this one, guys, they did an entire episode on, on him in the Netflix series.

01:16:48.140 So a lot of you guys that watch the show are probably going to be familiar with this

01:16:51.100 individual.

01:16:51.800 You have it?

01:16:52.320 Cool.

01:16:52.960 All right.

01:16:53.180 So I'm going to go ahead and show screen for y'all real fast before I do this of, um,

01:16:59.240 the, the Netflix series versus the, um, the actual situation.

01:17:05.180 Now, hmm.

01:17:06.720 I don't know if they're, if it's going to play sound hit play on it real fast.

01:17:10.900 I don't think they're going to hear it, hear it.

01:17:12.820 Yeah.

01:17:13.140 They're not going to hear it.

01:17:14.120 So do me a favor.

01:17:15.140 You know what?

01:17:16.080 See that link?

01:17:18.140 Where?

01:17:23.520 Okay.

01:17:24.040 And you got that from YouTube, right?

01:17:26.580 Yes.

01:17:27.040 Okay.

01:17:27.480 So what I'm going to do is I'm going to actually pull it up for the people.

01:17:29.840 Cause I just realized that if we pull it up from there, it's not going to have, it's

01:17:32.540 not going to have a sound.

01:17:34.700 So let me pull it up real quick for the audience guys.

01:17:38.100 Give me one second.

01:17:38.840 Bear with me here.

01:17:39.360 I'm pulling it up for y'all.

01:17:40.640 Uh, it's called read it for me one more time.

01:17:44.280 The title Rita is bells, 1994 statement.

01:17:48.140 In Netflix, dommer dash monster.

01:17:50.920 Bam.

01:17:51.400 Okay.

01:17:52.340 I got it right here for y'all.

01:17:54.760 No one.

01:17:55.760 The hell?

01:17:56.520 Why are they showing me a goddamn short?

01:17:58.320 I don't care about that.

01:17:59.280 My name.

01:17:59.960 Okay.

01:18:00.340 Bam.

01:18:00.640 All right.

01:18:01.180 So let me go ahead and share a screen with y'all.

01:18:03.000 See, I'll see this.

01:18:03.980 All right.

01:18:04.280 Cool.

01:18:04.520 It's Rita is bell.

01:18:06.580 And I'm the oldest sister of arrow Lindsay.

01:18:10.000 Jeff, whatever your name is, Satan.

01:18:13.940 I'm bad.

01:18:15.440 This is how you act when you are out of control.

01:18:18.660 Now I don't want to ever have to see my mother go through this again.

01:18:22.240 And you guys can see, obviously very emotional, very mad.

01:18:24.900 And I'm not going to lie.

01:18:26.500 The actress that did this played it very well compared to the original video.

01:18:32.400 Never Jeffrey.

01:18:34.060 Jeffrey.

01:18:35.040 I hate you.

01:18:36.420 Motherfucker.

01:18:37.280 I hate you.

01:18:38.720 This is out of control.

01:18:39.920 And also, I want to say this as well.

01:18:42.120 The actor that played Jeffrey Dahmer was fantastic.

01:18:46.200 Really good.

01:18:47.560 Like, I'm actually very, very impressed.

01:18:49.680 I would put it close to, you know, Heath Ledger's performance in Dark Knight.

01:18:54.280 He was very, very good.

01:18:56.080 Because even when I listen to the Jeffrey Dahmer tapes, I listen to the Jeffrey Dahmer interviews.

01:19:00.740 The actor sounded just like him.

01:19:03.140 The fact that he was able to have his same accent, sound like him, speak like him, use the same tonality, use that same monotone type ambiance in his speaking.

01:19:14.580 It was incredible.

01:19:15.940 The actor, I mean, hell, even when they were having those homoerotic scenes, the actor did a really good job of making it look legit, which made me really uncomfortable.

01:19:25.260 So, hey, kudos to you, my friend.

01:19:27.760 Got to give him a down to marker real quick because he did a damn good job.

01:19:30.560 Don't fuck with me, Jeffrey.

01:19:33.800 I'll kill you, goddammit.

01:19:35.060 Look at me.

01:19:36.140 Look at me.

01:19:36.900 My name is Rita Isbell.

01:19:39.280 Yeah.

01:19:39.740 So, let me see if I can get the original, like the real one.

01:19:43.100 So, y'all saw that one.

01:19:47.960 All right.

01:19:48.420 This is the victim statements here.

01:19:49.680 Let me find hers.

01:19:51.760 This is from Court TV.

01:19:53.460 It would make me sift through 30 minutes of this crap.

01:19:56.320 I got you.

01:19:56.840 I'm going to find it, though.

01:19:57.600 Okay.

01:20:00.560 Oh, here we go.

01:20:04.300 Bam.

01:20:06.300 When you are out of control.

01:20:08.120 Oh, look.

01:20:08.460 She's the most replayed.

01:20:11.520 I don't want to ever see my mother have to go through this again.

01:20:15.580 Never, Jeffrey.

01:20:16.800 Jeffrey, I hate you.

01:20:18.560 Mother.

01:20:19.360 I hate you.

01:20:21.120 Step is out of control.

01:20:23.260 Don't fuck with you, Jeffrey.

01:20:24.480 I killed you guys.

01:20:25.980 Look at me.

01:20:26.740 I hate you.

01:20:28.100 I hate you.

01:20:29.060 pour抽 into the process.

01:20:32.800 I hate you.

01:20:34.440 I hate you.

01:20:36.720 You don't have to go through this again.

01:20:42.300 Take it easy towards this.

01:20:44.700 I hate you.

01:20:46.600 It's bad.

01:20:46.980 I hate you.

01:20:48.220 Yeah, so, yeah.

01:20:49.700 She actually did a –

01:20:50.760 she actually did a very good rendition

01:20:54.840 compared to the actress

01:20:57.340 that did it on

01:20:58.480 the Netflix series. Very close.

01:21:01.520 Pretty damn good.

01:21:04.900 So, let's see here.

01:21:07.940 Alright, let me

01:21:08.840 go back here. Okay.

01:21:11.640 So, shout out to you

01:21:13.300 for finding that video, by the way.

01:21:15.580 Guys, do me a favor. Like the video, by the way.

01:21:17.260 We got 2,400 of y'all in here, man.

01:21:19.000 Y'all could be anywhere else in the world, but you're here doing the

01:21:21.180 Jeffrey Dahmer breakdown with me, which I appreciate

01:21:23.320 that you guys are here. Took me quite a bit of time

01:21:25.340 to prepare this thing for you guys, so

01:21:27.200 thank you so much for being here.

01:21:29.200 Alright, so let's go ahead and go into

01:21:31.140 Hughes, okay?

01:21:33.360 And this one, guys, they did a full episode on him.

01:21:37.760 Anthony Hughes

01:21:38.480 was a 31-year-old deaf and mute man whose

01:21:41.180 end was accidentally met at the hands

01:21:43.280 of Jeffrey Dahmer. They had known each other for a while.

01:21:45.280 Tony was a popular guy. He knew sign language

01:21:47.480 and could read lips, never letting his disabilities

01:21:49.500 get in the way. According to Dahmer's account of the

01:21:51.300 evening, he had passed a note to Tony at a gay

01:21:53.380 bar offering him $50 to come hang out

01:21:55.240 at his apartment, presumably suggesting he model

01:21:57.240 for nude photos, to which Tony wrote back,

01:21:59.340 sure.

01:22:01.260 Since he was deaf and mute, guys, that's the way he communicated.

01:22:03.240 He would pull out a little notebook and he would write everything

01:22:05.140 down and then pass it across.

01:22:07.120 Tony's mother slammed Jeffrey's statement during his trial,

01:22:09.000 exclaiming that Tony had $400 when he left home

01:22:11.320 that day and didn't need his $50.

01:22:13.440 Inside Dahmer's apartment, he rendered Tony unconscious

01:22:15.440 with crust that is hidden in his drink.

01:22:17.800 Dahmer then drilled a hole

01:22:19.020 into the skull and injected acid into the cranial cavity

01:22:21.480 while he was knocked out.

01:22:23.380 His second attempt at experimenting on a victim

01:22:25.200 to try and create a sex slave zombie.

01:22:27.940 His first attempt was on his most recent victim

01:22:30.180 from a month prior, Errol Lindsay,

01:22:31.780 but Lindsay woke up seemingly unaffected,

01:22:33.880 so Dahmer strangled him.

01:22:35.120 In Tony's case, the acid injection killed him.

01:22:37.420 Jeffrey claimed he didn't intend to kill him,

01:22:40.000 but rather he hoped for Tony to become a zombie-like.

01:22:42.080 Dahmer left the innocent man's corpse

01:22:43.500 rotting in the bedroom for several days

01:22:45.100 before dismembering him and dissolving his body

01:22:47.320 and asked the Dahmer kept Tony's skull

01:22:48.720 to add to his disturbing collection.

01:22:50.620 Also, just want to let you all know,

01:22:52.420 his body was there, guys,

01:22:55.340 when the police ended up finding this kid, okay?

01:22:59.320 This guy right here,

01:23:00.480 Conorak Synthes Saffamon,

01:23:02.720 who is the brother of this guy from earlier,

01:23:06.500 who was attacked, as you guys know.

01:23:10.180 God damn it, where is he?

01:23:11.360 Him.

01:23:11.600 All right, Kaizen.

01:23:14.700 These guys were brothers, guys,

01:23:16.700 which makes this even more incredible.

01:23:18.960 And here's the other thing, too.

01:23:20.240 Dahmer didn't know that this dude was brothers

01:23:24.320 with Conorak, okay?

01:23:28.980 He didn't know that.

01:23:31.640 So in the Netflix series,

01:23:34.000 you know, Conorak tells him,

01:23:35.980 oh, you got in trouble for messing with my brother before.

01:23:38.820 But the truth is,

01:23:40.300 is that from the Dahmer interviews,

01:23:42.040 he's saying that he didn't know that.

01:23:43.460 And you know what?

01:23:43.940 I'm going to believe Dahmer,

01:23:44.880 and the reason why I'm going to believe him

01:23:45.820 is because he confessed to everything.

01:23:47.820 He helped the detectives find the bodies.

01:23:50.360 He had nothing to really hide.

01:23:51.320 He confessed to everything.

01:23:52.180 So I think Netflix did that more

01:23:54.100 for entertainment purposes.

01:23:56.060 But yeah.

01:23:57.980 So, and this is the famous boy, by the way,

01:24:01.000 that was found naked running in the streets of Milwaukee

01:24:04.820 that the police gave back to Dahmer.

01:24:07.400 So let's go ahead and read this one.

01:24:09.060 And rest in peace to him, man.

01:24:10.320 This is literally heartbreaking.

01:24:12.140 Conorak, 14, was murdered by Dahmer on May 27, 1991.

01:24:15.200 Coincidentally, his brother Kaizen was drugged

01:24:16.760 and molested by Jeffrey one year prior.

01:24:18.660 But Kaizen escaped,

01:24:19.440 and Jeffrey was charged with sexual assault

01:24:20.700 and enticing a child.

01:24:21.940 The following year,

01:24:22.620 Dahmer spotted the younger sibling

01:24:23.800 at Grand Avenue Mall,

01:24:25.600 neither one realizing who the other one was.

01:24:27.360 Also, in the Netflix series,

01:24:29.120 they show that Dahmer is going to go pick up alcohol

01:24:33.060 and Conorak is outside the liquor store

01:24:35.340 trying to get alcohol.

01:24:36.620 That is not true.

01:24:37.300 They actually met at the mall.

01:24:38.540 So Netflix L.

01:24:41.960 And he offered Conorak $50 to come back

01:24:44.020 with him to his place.

01:24:45.380 He drug Conorak with what was likely Xanax

01:24:47.660 and raped him before drilling a hole in his skull

01:24:49.400 and injecting muriatic acid into his brain.

01:24:51.360 The child remained unconscious,

01:24:52.480 and Jeffrey grew frustrated

01:24:53.460 that his experiment had failed once again.

01:24:55.960 So he left and spent a few hours

01:24:57.300 drinking at a bar nearby.

01:24:58.300 While Dahmer was out getting intoxicated,

01:25:02.240 Conorak woke up

01:25:03.260 and managed to escape apartment 213,

01:25:05.580 stumbling into the street naked,

01:25:07.040 beaten, lobotomized, bleeding,

01:25:08.480 and barely able to see, think, or stand.

01:25:11.360 When Dahmer returned,

01:25:12.180 he found Conorak sitting with two black women

01:25:14.520 who were tending to the traumatized kid.

01:25:18.180 He tried to drag Conorak back to the apartment with him,

01:25:20.500 but while Conorak fought against him,

01:25:21.980 the police pulled up.

01:25:23.220 The worried women had called 911

01:25:24.960 explaining that a naked and badly beaten child

01:25:27.620 was wandering the street and in need of help.

01:25:30.640 Dahmer told the police that the Laotian boy

01:25:32.800 was a 19-year-old lover named John Humong,

01:25:35.940 who had been too drunk,

01:25:38.460 had too much to drink,

01:25:39.480 as he did from time to time,

01:25:42.140 and the policeman laughed it off

01:25:43.340 as a drunken lover's quarrel,

01:25:44.580 even as the women cried out in protest.

01:25:47.720 Conorak was unable to explain or defend himself

01:25:49.860 due to the drugs in his system

01:25:51.060 and experimentation performed on his young brain

01:25:53.700 just hours before,

01:25:55.680 leaving him completely incoherent.

01:25:57.680 Additionally,

01:25:58.380 he didn't know how to speak much English

01:26:00.200 without any other...

01:26:01.360 Oh, I didn't know that.

01:26:02.180 I didn't know that he didn't speak a lot of English,

01:26:03.760 but that makes sense

01:26:04.540 because his parents were immigrants.

01:26:06.780 Without any other real defense,

01:26:08.140 he refused to get up and go with Jeffrey,

01:26:09.580 so the police picked him up by the arms

01:26:11.480 and carried him to Apartment 213.

01:26:13.140 Here, Conorak's clothes were folded neatly,

01:26:15.660 and Jeffrey showed the officers

01:26:16.820 a couple photos of the boy

01:26:18.060 in a pair of black underwear

01:26:19.280 as proof of their relationship.

01:26:22.880 Satisfied, the police left the apartment

01:26:24.140 as soon as they were gone.

01:26:25.700 Jeffrey injected another shot of acid

01:26:27.300 into the frontal lobe of the child's brain,

01:26:29.560 killing him.

01:26:30.640 Can you do me a favor, Autumn?

01:26:31.620 Can you pull up the police dispatch,

01:26:35.160 what they said after they left the thing?

01:26:36.840 Just type in, like, police, Conorak.

01:26:39.580 They left Dahmer's apartment

01:26:40.940 or something like that.

01:26:41.480 It's going to show what they said.

01:26:44.140 A few days later,

01:26:45.100 a newspaper story was released

01:26:46.520 in regards to a missing laitian child.

01:26:48.440 Glenda Cleveland,

01:26:49.220 the mother of one of the two girls

01:26:51.020 that tried to protect Conorak,

01:26:52.300 called the police department

01:26:53.100 to tell them the boy from it two days ago

01:26:54.740 prior looked like the missing boy

01:26:56.600 from the paper.

01:26:57.740 No one was ever sent to talk with her about it.

01:27:00.000 Rest in peace.

01:27:00.780 Yeah, that's extremely sad.

01:27:02.220 This is probably the most heartbreaking one

01:27:06.440 was that Conorak being killed.

01:27:09.720 Because the police were literally there.

01:27:11.460 And that is the second example

01:27:12.640 where police had the chance.

01:27:15.880 Actually, this is the third time

01:27:16.920 that Dahmer had a brush in with the law

01:27:19.740 and made it.

01:27:20.260 The first time was after he killed Stephen Hicks

01:27:22.260 in 1978,

01:27:22.940 was driving with trash bags

01:27:24.740 with his dismembered, cut-up body,

01:27:26.480 and the police let him go, right,

01:27:28.720 after he was swerving in lanes.

01:27:30.260 Number two was when he got arrested

01:27:32.420 and convicted for molesting a child,

01:27:35.000 which was Conorak's brother.

01:27:36.440 He only got one year in prison,

01:27:37.700 and he got to work at a chocolate factory, right?

01:27:39.900 Willy Wonka type shit.

01:27:41.040 And then third was he Conorak escaped from the home,

01:27:45.520 the police show up,

01:27:46.700 and they let Dahmer take him back to the apartment.

01:27:50.760 So all I'm going to say for those two police officers,

01:27:53.120 because what I will say as well,

01:27:58.560 why this was a monumental L from those police officers,

01:28:01.020 was if they had run Dahmer's name, right,

01:28:04.320 they would have seen that he was a sex offender,

01:28:06.660 a convicted sex offender.

01:28:08.220 And if they had done their due diligence,

01:28:09.840 they would have probably been able to figure out

01:28:11.320 that the child was a minor, okay,

01:28:15.420 Conorak was a minor.

01:28:16.540 So they didn't do their homework, you know?

01:28:20.980 And you also got to know,

01:28:22.300 and this isn't to,

01:28:23.340 because the police fucked up.

01:28:24.260 I'm not even going to give them an out on this one.

01:28:27.200 The reason why the police were so lazy on this

01:28:31.100 was because, number one,

01:28:32.320 it was a shitty neighborhood.

01:28:34.260 Number two, right,

01:28:35.700 the police had issues with the homosexual community

01:28:38.020 at this time.

01:28:38.660 This is the early 90s, guys.

01:28:39.680 You guys got to remember as well,

01:28:40.660 we need to also look at the climate.

01:28:43.900 There was a lot of negative stereotypes

01:28:45.520 about homosexuals back at this time.

01:28:47.600 You know, HIV, AIDS, you know,

01:28:50.640 they didn't want to necessarily associate

01:28:52.100 and or stay in the apartment for a long time.

01:28:53.760 One of the officers made a stupid crude joke

01:28:55.480 about getting deloused or something like that

01:28:58.540 after being at the apartment.

01:29:01.120 So they didn't want to be there.

01:29:04.880 They didn't want to do their due diligence

01:29:07.500 and investigate the crime properly

01:29:08.980 because, number one,

01:29:11.180 it was a bad neighborhood.

01:29:12.140 Number two,

01:29:13.040 they were homosexual

01:29:13.820 and they didn't want to come off as,

01:29:15.040 you know, being biased.

01:29:16.200 Number three,

01:29:16.620 they didn't want to be around them in general

01:29:17.860 because there was this negative stigma

01:29:19.740 that gay people all had HIV and or AIDS

01:29:23.200 and if you hung around them,

01:29:24.180 you can catch it too.

01:29:25.140 And I know that's like,

01:29:25.940 what, like,

01:29:26.600 Myra, what the fuck?

01:29:27.580 Like, what?

01:29:28.480 Hey, guys,

01:29:30.000 what the fuck?

01:29:30.580 Back in the early 90s,

01:29:31.560 no one knew.

01:29:32.460 It was new.

01:29:33.000 It was a new disease.

01:29:35.100 So no one knew how it was.

01:29:36.180 It was.

01:29:37.340 It was.

01:29:38.780 No one knew where, number one,

01:29:39.880 where it really came from, right?

01:29:41.000 They just thought gays only had it.

01:29:42.560 Number two,

01:29:43.000 they didn't know how it was transmitted.

01:29:44.360 And then number three,

01:29:45.180 there wasn't enough education on it.

01:29:46.960 So that was the that was the atmosphere in the 90s.

01:29:49.980 So these all all these factors led to them saying,

01:29:52.780 oh, you know what?

01:29:53.200 They're gay.

01:29:53.760 We don't want to deal with this, whatever.

01:29:55.220 And they didn't want to investigate.

01:29:56.060 And there were lazy officers,

01:29:57.040 lazy fucking policing,

01:29:57.920 you know,

01:29:59.480 so that right there,

01:30:01.640 give them the.

01:30:05.000 Do we have the dispatch video by chance on that one?

01:30:07.040 Okay, we do.

01:30:07.940 Shout out to Autumn for finding it for us,

01:30:09.260 by the way.

01:30:10.180 Let me go ahead and pull it up for y'all real fast.

01:30:14.440 What's the name of it real fast?

01:30:15.620 Give me the title.

01:30:17.500 Jeffrey Dahmer's 13th victim,

01:30:19.700 Conorak.

01:30:20.820 I'm not going to attempt that.

01:30:23.020 That name.

01:30:25.040 Synthesome.

01:30:26.040 And that's like the dispatch video.

01:30:29.540 Yeah.

01:30:30.980 Okay.

01:30:32.560 And I'm pulling it up for y'all right now.

01:30:34.100 Let me go ahead and.

01:30:39.760 We do a lot, baby.

01:30:44.780 Which one is it?

01:30:45.580 Is it?

01:30:47.780 Let me put Conorak.

01:30:54.180 This one.

01:30:54.760 Mm-hmm.

01:30:55.440 Okay.

01:30:55.720 Okay.

01:30:55.800 Okay.

01:30:56.320 Hi,

01:30:56.640 I'm on 25th and state.

01:30:59.160 And this is young man.

01:31:00.540 He is butt naked.

01:31:01.500 He has been beaten up.

01:31:02.620 He is very bruised up.

01:31:03.960 He can't stand.

01:31:05.020 He's study fall out.

01:31:05.960 He has,

01:31:06.360 he is butt naked.

01:31:07.080 He has no clothes on.

01:31:08.320 He was really hurt.

01:31:09.120 And I,

01:31:09.960 you know,

01:31:10.220 I ain't got no cord on him.

01:31:11.280 I just seen him.

01:31:12.040 And he needs to help.

01:31:12.760 Where is he at?

01:31:13.560 On 25th and state.

01:31:14.780 The corner at 25th and state.

01:31:16.260 I saw him sitting on the sidewalk.

01:31:19.920 Two girls were with him being called the police.

01:31:21.840 This is Dahmer,

01:31:23.880 by the way,

01:31:24.260 guys speaking about what he,

01:31:25.440 when he walked up on Conorak,

01:31:28.040 what he saw.

01:31:29.720 I had to think of the story quickly.

01:31:31.680 And I told him he was a friend.

01:31:33.620 He gets drunk.

01:31:34.940 So he said,

01:31:35.660 I had to come up with a story quickly.

01:31:36.880 I had to tell him he was a friend

01:31:37.620 and he was drunk.

01:31:38.640 And I know this isn't very legible.

01:31:40.900 He was not wanting to go back.

01:31:43.060 So one officer grabbed him by this arm,

01:31:45.100 the other arm.

01:31:45.600 So he grabbed him by the other arm.

01:31:46.780 And they walked him up to the apartment.

01:31:49.640 So the police walked him into the apartment.

01:31:51.880 And they left.

01:31:53.820 That's when he was second.

01:31:55.900 Right away.

01:31:57.840 How long did it take you down?

01:31:59.440 That was a vegan.

01:32:01.860 The intoxicated boyfriend of another boyfriend.

01:32:07.580 How old was this child?

01:32:09.260 It wasn't a child.

01:32:10.000 It was an adult.

01:32:10.720 Now this is after,

01:32:12.360 that was after they had left him.

01:32:14.900 That was the woman calling back.

01:32:16.780 The intoxicated Asian naked male

01:32:19.280 was returned to his sober boyfriend.

01:32:25.740 And we're getting eight.

01:32:27.900 Bam.

01:32:28.880 So that's what they said right after they left the scene.

01:32:31.560 Right?

01:32:31.820 So they ended up getting suspended slash fired for that.

01:32:34.960 And they got their jobs back with back pay guys,

01:32:39.400 which is fucking crazy.

01:32:42.040 And you guys are probably wondering,

01:32:43.320 what is 10-8 for police code?

01:32:45.820 It means out of service.

01:32:48.960 Okay?

01:32:49.380 Typically, it means,

01:32:50.740 or no, in service.

01:32:52.300 Sorry.

01:32:52.960 In service.

01:32:53.460 Which means they're basically,

01:32:54.440 they finish the call,

01:32:55.880 and they're back and ready to deal with another,

01:32:57.960 another call that might come in through dispatch.

01:33:01.720 Oh, we're clear.

01:33:05.860 Crazy, huh?

01:33:10.680 All right.

01:33:12.020 So let's go back to the victims.

01:33:15.000 And we got Mike Trilstein in the house, by the way.

01:33:17.480 He goes,

01:33:18.480 Top G meets Top Jew.

01:33:20.500 Yes or yes.

01:33:23.680 Shout out to you, Trilstein.

01:33:24.540 And I appreciate you donating to the cause, my friend.

01:33:29.420 So yeah,

01:33:29.880 this one is probably one of the most heartbreaking ones.

01:33:32.160 So we got here,

01:33:33.200 and I think this was the last one.

01:33:36.360 Matt Turner,

01:33:37.060 20-year-old social butterfly,

01:33:38.320 met Dahmer at a gay pride parade in Chicago,

01:33:40.260 Illinois,

01:33:40.600 on June 30th, 1991.

01:33:43.560 Friends of his talked about his love for dressing up

01:33:45.680 and having his photo taken.

01:33:46.880 So Dahmer's typical grooming attempt

01:33:48.260 of offering money for photographs

01:33:50.080 was likely what placed Turner on a Greyhound bus

01:33:52.280 back to Milwaukee with Jeffrey.

01:33:54.660 His family stated that it wasn't out of the ordinary

01:33:56.820 for Turner to take off

01:33:57.920 for various periods of time,

01:33:59.700 being the outgoing and adventurous young man

01:34:01.900 that he was.

01:34:02.660 His warm and inviting personality

01:34:03.760 resulted in him having friends everywhere.

01:34:05.140 That he went out.

01:34:06.540 Once inside apartment 213,

01:34:08.020 Dahmer drugged and strangled Turner to death

01:34:09.400 before dismembering him,

01:34:10.280 dissolving his body

01:34:11.440 in the 57-gallon drum of acid

01:34:13.780 and yet again keeping the skull

01:34:15.560 as a trophy.

01:34:17.980 So,

01:34:18.420 as you guys can see,

01:34:20.000 we pretty much summarized

01:34:21.120 almost all.

01:34:26.220 Let me make sure I had everybody.

01:34:29.000 Oh, no, hold on.

01:34:29.960 So now we're not done.

01:34:32.740 We got Jeremy Weinberger,

01:34:34.920 right?

01:34:35.120 Because this is one of the things

01:34:36.760 because I...

01:34:37.860 And here,

01:34:38.220 this might be a little bit of a controversial take,

01:34:39.780 but I want to give my take on this real fast.

01:34:41.120 A lot of people said that Jeffrey Dahmer was a racist

01:34:43.120 and he only attacked minorities, etc.

01:34:45.240 That's simply not the case, guys.

01:34:47.060 He killed white guys.

01:34:48.140 He killed Hispanics.

01:34:49.200 He killed Asians.

01:34:50.240 He went after Asians as well.

01:34:51.820 He killed blacks.

01:34:53.660 He went after everybody.

01:34:54.940 The one thing I will say, though,

01:34:56.440 is that most of the people

01:34:58.240 that he went after

01:34:58.920 were of lower socioeconomic status

01:35:00.840 so that he can go ahead

01:35:01.760 and coerce them

01:35:03.540 with $50,

01:35:05.620 you know, $100

01:35:06.240 or whatever it may be

01:35:07.240 to take pictures.

01:35:08.360 So,

01:35:09.200 he wasn't racist.

01:35:10.620 His thing was

01:35:11.940 he liked men

01:35:13.000 of all different complexions

01:35:14.440 and he went after

01:35:15.500 people that were lower socioeconomic status

01:35:17.620 that were good-looking.

01:35:18.980 Okay?

01:35:19.340 That's what he went for.

01:35:20.360 People that

01:35:20.920 he could manipulate.

01:35:23.880 All right.

01:35:24.140 Jeremy Weinberg was an incredibly sweet

01:35:25.700 and lovable 23-year-old

01:35:26.560 half Puerto Rican man

01:35:27.620 from Chicago

01:35:28.140 who worked as a customer service rep.

01:35:31.660 Okay, let's see here.

01:35:32.860 So,

01:35:33.860 he was,

01:35:34.240 in early July 1991,

01:35:36.280 Jeremy crossed paths

01:35:36.900 with Dahmer

01:35:37.200 at a bar in Chicago

01:35:37.920 90 miles away from Milwaukee

01:35:39.080 called Carol Speak Easy.

01:35:41.060 Of course,

01:35:41.420 Dahmer invited Jeremy

01:35:42.060 to come back to his apartment

01:35:42.880 with him.

01:35:43.240 After asking a friend

01:35:44.000 what they thought of Jeffrey

01:35:45.280 and getting the green light,

01:35:46.640 he decided to go back with Dahmer.

01:35:48.180 Oddly enough,

01:35:48.660 Jeremy ended up spending

01:35:49.560 several days with the murderer.

01:35:51.060 But at a certain point,

01:35:52.580 he understandably

01:35:53.160 started wanting to go home.

01:35:54.280 Jeffrey's abandonment issues

01:35:55.260 came into play

01:35:55.960 and he convinced Jeremy

01:35:56.820 to have one last drink with him.

01:35:58.720 This one strongly spiked

01:35:59.640 with his trademark

01:36:00.140 prescription sedatives.

01:36:01.460 After Jeremy lost conscience,

01:36:02.920 Jeremy Dahmer drilled

01:36:04.160 into his skull

01:36:04.820 and injected his brain

01:36:05.620 with boiling water

01:36:06.460 foregoing the acid technique.

01:36:08.260 Okay, see?

01:36:08.820 So, he knew

01:36:09.380 that he wasn't going to be successful

01:36:11.000 with using the acid

01:36:11.940 so he tried boiling water this time.

01:36:14.180 This didn't work well for Jeffrey

01:36:15.180 after the man woke up seemingly okay

01:36:16.960 so he forcibly drugged him again

01:36:18.900 and gave him another injection

01:36:20.140 of boiling water to the brain

01:36:21.200 sending the poor man

01:36:21.980 into a coma for a few days.

01:36:23.040 When Dahmer returned home

01:36:24.020 on the second day

01:36:24.880 of Jeremy's coma,

01:36:25.820 he found that the man had died

01:36:26.940 with his eyes open.

01:36:28.180 He dissolved the body in acid

01:36:29.520 after dismembering him

01:36:30.500 and placed his head in the freezer

01:36:31.820 then carried on with his day.

01:36:33.600 When a friend of Sweet Jeremy's

01:36:34.940 found out about the murder,

01:36:36.380 the same one who told him

01:36:37.540 Jeremy seems alright

01:36:38.580 before watching them leave together,

01:36:40.140 he couldn't help but feel responsible.

01:36:42.980 And then,

01:36:43.480 and then now we got,

01:36:45.620 I think these are the last two.

01:36:47.480 Oh, okay.

01:36:49.100 Yeah.

01:36:49.500 So, Tracy Edwards was the last one.

01:36:50.960 So, we'll go ahead and,

01:36:51.900 yeah, okay.

01:36:52.380 So, these are the last two

01:36:53.000 that he actually killed.

01:36:54.060 Oliver Lacey was a 23-year-old man

01:36:55.360 from Illinois.

01:36:56.060 He had recently moved to Milwaukee

01:36:57.480 to live together with his boyfriend,

01:36:58.840 with his girlfriend,

01:36:59.640 who he planned to propose to,

01:37:00.800 and their infant child.

01:37:01.680 He was approached by Jeffrey

01:37:02.680 at the Grand Avenue Mall

01:37:03.840 on July 12, 1991.

01:37:05.260 Yes.

01:37:05.540 And, guys,

01:37:06.360 Dahmer spent a lot of time

01:37:07.440 at the Grand Ave Mall

01:37:08.380 in Milwaukee.

01:37:10.200 Can you pull that up,

01:37:10.980 by the way,

01:37:11.260 on the map real fast,

01:37:12.540 Autumn?

01:37:13.640 Where he previously

01:37:14.460 lured David Thomas

01:37:15.360 and Conorak,

01:37:16.080 uh,

01:37:16.420 okay,

01:37:18.140 Conorak from.

01:37:19.380 He went back to apartment

01:37:20.100 two and three with Dahmer

01:37:21.100 and was drugged,

01:37:21.840 strangled,

01:37:22.220 sodomized,

01:37:22.740 and dismembered.

01:37:23.820 Dahmer kept the man's head

01:37:24.880 in the refrigerator

01:37:25.420 next to some arm and hammer

01:37:27.360 baking soda

01:37:27.920 to try and mask the smell

01:37:29.020 and kept his heart

01:37:30.200 wrapped in plastic

01:37:31.520 in his refrigerator

01:37:32.180 to eat later.

01:37:32.960 I suppose he was too full

01:37:34.120 from eating Oliver's bicep.

01:37:36.280 Okay.

01:37:37.180 Next person,

01:37:37.880 Joseph Braidhoff

01:37:39.660 was a final victim

01:37:40.740 of Jeffrey Dahmer.

01:37:41.560 He was going through

01:37:42.160 a divorce at the age of 25

01:37:43.720 and had three children.

01:37:44.540 He was in Milwaukee

01:37:45.100 at the time

01:37:45.540 looking for work

01:37:46.420 to support him and his kids

01:37:47.440 and to spend time

01:37:48.300 with his brother,

01:37:49.080 Donald.

01:37:49.340 Dahmer spotted

01:37:50.600 Jeff Joseph

01:37:51.500 waiting at a bus stop

01:37:52.680 during a rainstorm

01:37:53.560 on July 19th,

01:37:54.440 1991,

01:37:55.220 holding a six-pack of beer.

01:37:56.820 We offered him $50

01:37:57.380 to come back with him

01:37:58.440 to his apartment

01:37:59.200 to drink and pose

01:38:00.360 for photographs

01:38:00.960 and poor Joseph agreed.

01:38:03.800 The father of three

01:38:04.700 was then slipped

01:38:05.180 a drug drink

01:38:05.840 and strangled.

01:38:06.740 Jeffrey continued

01:38:07.340 having sex with the man's

01:38:08.320 corpse for a few days

01:38:08.980 but his head

01:38:09.560 began housing

01:38:10.400 a maggot infestation

01:38:11.440 so Jeffrey dismembered him.

01:38:13.120 Dahmer cleaned out

01:38:13.960 Joseph's decapitated head

01:38:15.500 and stored it along

01:38:16.340 with his torso

01:38:17.080 in the freezer

01:38:17.520 dissolving the rest

01:38:18.300 of his body

01:38:18.780 and acid inside

01:38:19.440 the 57-gallon drum

01:38:21.020 in his bedroom.

01:38:22.300 Fucking sickness, man.

01:38:23.960 Oh, shit!

01:38:24.640 Oh, shit!

01:38:25.320 Oh, shit!

01:38:26.080 And then this is

01:38:26.880 the last one here

01:38:27.540 and luckily

01:38:28.180 Tracy Edwards

01:38:30.260 escaped, guys.

01:38:31.260 This is the guy

01:38:32.040 that led

01:38:33.040 to

01:38:33.780 Jeffrey Dahmer

01:38:34.920 getting caught.

01:38:38.000 So,

01:38:38.560 Dom DeMarco

01:38:39.000 for him.

01:38:39.400 On July 22nd,

01:38:42.520 on July 22nd,

01:38:42.560 1991,

01:38:43.160 Tracy Edwards

01:38:44.380 met Jeffrey

01:38:44.860 while drinking

01:38:45.380 at a bar in Milwaukee.

01:38:46.700 He offered Tracy

01:38:47.240 money and booze

01:38:47.820 to come back

01:38:48.240 to his apartment

01:38:48.680 and post for photographs

01:38:49.540 to which he agreed to.

01:38:51.220 He described Dahmer

01:38:52.180 as going from

01:38:53.040 a friendly and pleasant guy

01:38:53.960 to a crazed killer

01:38:54.860 repeatedly threatening him

01:38:55.960 with a six-inch knife

01:38:56.960 and telling him

01:38:57.440 that he was going

01:38:58.060 to cut out his heart

01:38:59.020 and eat it.

01:38:59.940 He went as Dahmer

01:39:00.580 enter unpredictable stages

01:39:02.180 of manic behavior

01:39:02.980 from, example,

01:39:03.840 rocking back and forth

01:39:04.680 and chanting

01:39:05.280 while transfixed

01:39:06.360 on movie scenes

01:39:07.080 from The Exorcist 3

01:39:08.320 which he was known

01:39:09.460 to watch over and over

01:39:10.520 again on a loop.

01:39:12.280 Tracy continuously

01:39:12.920 tried to calm Dahmer

01:39:13.880 reassuring him

01:39:14.520 that he wasn't going

01:39:15.300 to leave

01:39:15.660 and that he was

01:39:16.820 his friend

01:39:17.300 in a desperate attempt

01:39:18.040 to delay the crazed man

01:39:19.060 from acting on

01:39:19.940 his impulsive urges.

01:39:21.080 Now,

01:39:21.520 instead of us reading

01:39:22.380 about this, guys,

01:39:23.460 let's go ahead

01:39:24.140 and look at his testimony

01:39:25.520 when he was actually

01:39:27.400 from the situation

01:39:29.620 from when he was

01:39:30.400 in Dahmer's home.

01:39:31.740 Okay?

01:39:33.260 Now,

01:39:33.700 before I read this,

01:39:34.740 I'm going to go ahead

01:39:35.340 and hit,

01:39:35.740 or sorry,

01:39:36.100 before I play this,

01:39:36.780 let me hit some

01:39:37.180 of these chats real fast

01:39:38.120 that I may have missed.

01:39:40.940 And shout out to Autumn,

01:39:41.520 by the way,

01:39:41.840 showing all your chats.

01:39:43.120 Guys,

01:39:43.460 like the video,

01:39:43.900 by the way.

01:39:44.240 There's 20,

01:39:45.100 almost 2,500 of you guys

01:39:46.240 in here.

01:39:47.080 All right,

01:39:47.260 so we got Dillard Trilstein,

01:39:48.460 Don DeMarco for him,

01:39:49.140 20 bucks.

01:39:49.960 Myron,

01:39:50.180 who wins in a fight,

01:39:50.820 Jeffrey D or Mikey T?

01:39:52.200 That's a good question.

01:39:52.920 I don't know.

01:39:53.720 Myron Goats,

01:39:54.380 Fresh and Fit Forever.

01:39:55.280 Myron Gaines the Goat.

01:39:56.200 Top G meets Top Jew.

01:39:57.040 Yes or yes.

01:39:57.500 And that's from Mike Trilstein.

01:39:58.360 I'll give you 100 bucks.

01:39:59.360 I got to give you

01:39:59.820 Don DeMarco for all the donations.

01:40:01.060 Thank you.

01:40:02.120 And then we got Shanta goes,

01:40:03.580 five bucks.

01:40:03.880 Can you please put a link

01:40:04.560 to this page

01:40:05.700 you are reading

01:40:06.280 the victim's story on?

01:40:07.120 Yes,

01:40:07.320 I will.

01:40:07.660 I got you,

01:40:08.120 Shanta.

01:40:10.000 Actually,

01:40:10.400 matter of fact,

01:40:10.860 I will put it in the chat

01:40:11.760 for you guys here in a second.

01:40:13.580 Can you please,

01:40:14.240 and then Myron,

01:40:15.020 T's Jeff Tarot.

01:40:16.100 And that's from Mike Trilstein.

01:40:18.380 Jamal Hicks goes,

01:40:19.280 doesn't the Dahmer case

01:40:20.180 prove white privilege?

01:40:21.420 To a degree,

01:40:21.940 yes,

01:40:22.200 and especially in the 90s.

01:40:23.540 Colonel Sanders,

01:40:24.100 10 bucks goes,

01:40:24.620 this guy could have been a surgeon,

01:40:26.240 but with a distant father

01:40:27.200 and insane mother,

01:40:27.940 you get extremely disturbed individuals

01:40:29.340 such as this.

01:40:30.300 Disgusting and a shame.

01:40:31.680 Yep,

01:40:31.880 that's true.

01:40:32.520 Mike James,

01:40:33.380 a dollar.

01:40:33.760 Thank you so much.

01:40:34.260 Garage Man Teddy goes,

01:40:35.220 what's good,

01:40:35.560 Myron Curious?

01:40:36.460 Do you know if Netflix

01:40:37.920 had to get approval

01:40:38.740 from the families of the victims

01:40:40.160 to do this series?

01:40:44.640 If so,

01:40:45.060 are they paid out?

01:40:45.980 That's a good question,

01:40:46.860 my friend.

01:40:47.220 The answer is

01:40:48.360 they got no money from this.

01:40:50.900 They got no money.

01:40:51.560 Normally,

01:40:51.880 when people try to monetize

01:40:52.940 on Jeffrey Dahmer,

01:40:53.980 the families are able

01:40:54.660 to go ahead and sue

01:40:55.540 and get money.

01:40:56.500 To my knowledge,

01:40:57.280 I actually looked this up yesterday.

01:40:58.800 They did not get any money

01:40:59.740 from this Netflix series.

01:41:01.080 Netflix is probably intelligent.

01:41:02.140 They probably did

01:41:02.600 a bunch of legal stuff beforehand

01:41:04.140 to make sure

01:41:05.320 that the families

01:41:05.860 don't get any of the money here.

01:41:09.680 And we got 10 bucks here

01:41:10.780 from Marquise912.

01:41:12.140 Former state investigator here.

01:41:13.340 Serial killers aren't smart or clever.

01:41:14.580 They get away for some time

01:41:15.920 simply because

01:41:16.520 they generally kill people

01:41:17.460 they don't know

01:41:18.060 or have a trace

01:41:18.920 or have trace connections with.

01:41:20.480 That's a good point.

01:41:21.240 I also want to say this too,

01:41:22.500 Marquise.

01:41:24.140 Another reason why

01:41:25.080 Jeffrey Dahmer

01:41:25.660 made it for as long

01:41:27.200 as he did, guys,

01:41:27.880 is you guys got to remember again.

01:41:29.660 In the early 90s,

01:41:31.160 okay,

01:41:32.160 DNA, forensics,

01:41:33.540 et cetera,

01:41:33.860 it was all still relatively new.

01:41:35.660 It was difficult

01:41:36.360 to get them done.

01:41:37.560 On top of that,

01:41:39.780 homosexuals, right,

01:41:41.940 live double lives.

01:41:42.920 All right?

01:41:43.600 So it wasn't uncommon

01:41:44.960 for someone that was gay

01:41:46.740 to not only live a double life

01:41:48.120 but to disappear

01:41:48.760 for periods of time.

01:41:49.980 Okay?

01:41:50.560 And on top of that,

01:41:52.480 HIV, AIDS

01:41:53.400 were killing a lot of gay people.

01:41:54.920 So people weren't sure

01:41:56.280 if they were disappearing

01:41:57.120 because of sickness,

01:41:59.180 because of living a double life,

01:42:00.560 because they had to get out of town.

01:42:02.980 Homosexuality, guys,

01:42:03.760 was not accepted

01:42:04.660 like it is today.

01:42:05.560 It was extremely frowned upon

01:42:07.340 in the early 90s.

01:42:08.180 So what this did

01:42:09.500 was it allowed

01:42:10.640 someone like Jeffrey Dahmer,

01:42:12.460 a predator,

01:42:13.340 to almost operate

01:42:14.920 with damn near impunity

01:42:16.420 because he was kidnapping

01:42:17.600 and kidnapping people,

01:42:20.120 not kidnapping them necessarily,

01:42:21.760 but he was,

01:42:22.600 he was,

01:42:23.980 well,

01:42:24.340 actually he was kidnapping them

01:42:25.780 and holding them hostage

01:42:26.560 once he got them back

01:42:27.280 to his house,

01:42:27.880 right?

01:42:28.780 And these were people

01:42:29.800 of lower socioeconomic status,

01:42:32.280 not strong family ties,

01:42:34.640 desperate,

01:42:35.720 most of the time gay.

01:42:36.820 So it was almost

01:42:38.360 the perfect concoction,

01:42:40.460 right,

01:42:41.560 of scenarios and variables

01:42:44.120 to allow him to,

01:42:45.340 you know,

01:42:46.320 perpetrate these acts

01:42:48.180 without being caught.

01:42:49.720 And also,

01:42:50.780 right,

01:42:51.040 and I agree with Marquis on this,

01:42:52.720 he's so far removed

01:42:54.080 from so many of these individuals

01:42:55.440 that it would be very difficult

01:42:56.880 for them to trace it back to him

01:42:59.100 because he's meeting them

01:43:00.140 at like a,

01:43:00.740 you know,

01:43:00.960 at a nightclub somewhere

01:43:01.860 or,

01:43:02.780 you know,

01:43:02.980 at a bus stop,

01:43:03.840 whatever it may be.

01:43:04.500 This is before,

01:43:05.160 you know,

01:43:05.440 the sophistication of,

01:43:06.720 you know,

01:43:07.000 closed circuit television cameras

01:43:08.140 being everywhere.

01:43:08.940 So,

01:43:09.620 hey,

01:43:09.840 come back to my place

01:43:10.780 and let's go ahead

01:43:11.540 and have some drinks

01:43:12.480 and I'll pay you to take pictures.

01:43:13.860 You're not going to be able

01:43:14.580 to document that.

01:43:15.600 So he was able to use that

01:43:17.240 to his advantage

01:43:17.880 and get it back to his place.

01:43:19.320 A lot of these murders guys

01:43:20.700 that you guys see,

01:43:21.700 these 17 murders,

01:43:22.640 he confessed to them

01:43:23.820 and then they were able

01:43:25.100 to go ahead

01:43:25.720 and corroborate it

01:43:26.860 through information he gave.

01:43:29.340 But if he had just

01:43:29.860 kept his mouth shut,

01:43:31.160 they probably wouldn't

01:43:31.800 have been able

01:43:32.160 to identify a lot

01:43:32.960 of the people he killed.

01:43:33.740 So a big reason

01:43:35.080 why they were able

01:43:35.980 to identify all these victims

01:43:37.120 was based on

01:43:38.120 his information

01:43:39.420 along with helping them

01:43:40.460 identify body parts

01:43:41.500 and then them being able

01:43:42.880 to finally corroborate

01:43:43.840 what he told them

01:43:45.060 to actual DNA evidence.

01:43:47.280 So,

01:43:47.760 Marquis,

01:43:48.240 good point there.

01:43:49.720 Breakdown of Cain Vasquez

01:43:50.760 attempted murder case.

01:43:52.140 I can in the future.

01:43:53.580 Frankie Point Dexter goes,

01:43:54.500 I started watching

01:43:55.000 from the beginning,

01:43:55.600 but man,

01:43:55.980 that was the hardest

01:43:56.500 I've ever seen you laugh,

01:43:57.460 bro.

01:43:57.940 Netflix and chill.

01:43:58.660 That's true.

01:44:02.040 Zeus,

01:44:02.580 man's literally had

01:44:03.380 skeletons in his closet.

01:44:04.480 Yes,

01:44:04.640 he did,

01:44:04.980 my friends.

01:44:05.860 Could you do

01:44:06.460 Ross Ubrick

01:44:07.160 and the Silk Road?

01:44:08.060 Yes,

01:44:08.340 I will do the Silk Road

01:44:09.260 for y'all.

01:44:09.560 Don't worry.

01:44:09.940 I actually have documents

01:44:11.900 for that case ready to go.

01:44:12.960 I got that.

01:44:13.500 I got Michael Vick.

01:44:14.180 I got a couple cases

01:44:14.960 on deck ready to go.

01:44:17.680 Big Moe store,

01:44:18.420 my girls,

01:44:19.400 Candace Goat,

01:44:20.420 Myron Goat,

01:44:21.840 Dollar.

01:44:22.280 Thank you so much,

01:44:22.740 Mike James.

01:44:23.940 CKB,

01:44:24.380 Myron,

01:44:24.540 why do you always sniff

01:44:26.000 during fetish dreams?

01:44:26.800 Do you have allergies

01:44:27.340 or you've been sniffing

01:44:28.160 the HSI confiscated powder?

01:44:30.720 No,

01:44:31.100 guys,

01:44:31.320 it's just really cold

01:44:32.140 in the apartment,

01:44:32.840 so I have a very sensitive nose,

01:44:35.620 so sometimes I'll get

01:44:36.420 a runny nose from it.

01:44:38.480 Also,

01:44:38.780 these microphones

01:44:39.280 are very sensitive.

01:44:40.060 They're very good,

01:44:40.700 so you guys might pick up

01:44:41.700 me sniffing every now and then,

01:44:42.700 but guys,

01:44:43.320 I've never done a drug

01:44:43.900 in my life.

01:44:44.300 Come on,

01:44:44.500 man.

01:44:44.840 If I was on Coke,

01:44:45.440 y'all would know.

01:44:46.020 Trust me.

01:44:47.820 Speaking of which,

01:44:48.540 Myron,

01:44:48.720 did Tristan and Rod,

01:44:49.920 send Rod Eric the 1000?

01:44:51.740 I think he did.

01:44:52.620 Christian Garcia,

01:44:53.400 great work.

01:44:53.920 Thank you so much.

01:44:55.440 And then,

01:44:55.760 cool,

01:44:55.980 I think we're caught up

01:44:56.620 on all the Super Chats.

01:44:58.300 So let's go ahead,

01:44:59.040 guys,

01:44:59.800 and go to Tracy Edwards'

01:45:04.020 testimony,

01:45:04.620 and this picks up

01:45:05.680 right when he got

01:45:06.680 into the apartment

01:45:07.520 with Jeffrey Dahmer.

01:45:08.560 We're not going to play

01:45:09.080 the entire testimony.

01:45:09.960 We're just going to play

01:45:10.440 a certain portion of it,

01:45:11.440 so let's get into it,

01:45:12.320 guys.

01:45:13.180 It was about before seven,

01:45:15.200 quarter to seven,

01:45:16.100 something like that.

01:45:16.740 So you're sitting on the couch,

01:45:17.920 he brings your beer

01:45:18.660 and rum and Coke,

01:45:19.300 what happens?

01:45:20.720 Okay,

01:45:21.160 then we just study talking

01:45:22.260 and everything,

01:45:22.880 you know?

01:45:23.200 General talk?

01:45:24.020 General talk.

01:45:24.840 What happens?

01:45:25.720 Yeah,

01:45:25.920 and then I was just,

01:45:26.720 I don't know,

01:45:27.060 getting a little agitated,

01:45:28.140 maybe,

01:45:28.500 you know,

01:45:28.780 because of the smell

01:45:29.460 and things,

01:45:29.980 and then he threw

01:45:31.020 my conversation off.

01:45:32.140 And guys,

01:45:32.440 remember,

01:45:32.720 he has several bodies

01:45:33.660 in this place,

01:45:34.540 so the place

01:45:35.500 is extremely rancid.

01:45:38.100 Like,

01:45:38.380 it smells like

01:45:39.720 fucking shit.

01:45:41.520 And mind you,

01:45:42.480 people have been

01:45:44.100 complaining about

01:45:45.500 the smell of his place

01:45:47.400 for months.

01:45:50.200 Talking about the fish

01:45:51.260 in the fish tank,

01:45:52.160 you know?

01:45:52.460 Okay,

01:45:53.500 when you start talking

01:45:54.420 about the fish

01:45:55.180 in the fish tank,

01:45:55.920 do you bring that up

01:45:56.600 or does he?

01:45:57.160 He does.

01:45:58.100 And what do you do

01:45:58.860 when he does that?

01:45:59.880 I turn to the right

01:46:01.660 like the fish tank

01:46:02.980 is here,

01:46:03.340 I'm turning all

01:46:03.900 the way over here.

01:46:04.980 You turn to your right

01:46:05.780 to look at it?

01:46:06.420 To look at the fish tank,

01:46:07.460 right.

01:46:07.840 And when that happens,

01:46:08.900 what happens to you?

01:46:09.920 All of a sudden,

01:46:10.600 a handcuff

01:46:11.140 and a knife

01:46:11.620 is pulled on me.

01:46:13.620 Handcuff is placed

01:46:14.520 on your body?

01:46:16.160 Where?

01:46:16.880 On my left wrist.

01:46:18.580 And you see a knife?

01:46:19.860 Yeah,

01:46:20.220 the knife, yeah.

01:46:21.620 Now,

01:46:22.660 at that moment,

01:46:24.500 what do you do?

01:46:27.540 First,

01:46:28.040 I feel fear,

01:46:29.000 then I ask him

01:46:29.640 what's going on,

01:46:30.520 you know,

01:46:30.960 this is not necessary,

01:46:32.400 you know,

01:46:33.060 to pull a knife on me.

01:46:34.340 Are you afraid?

01:46:36.120 Yes.

01:46:36.780 Do you have any reason

01:46:37.720 to know why he did that?

01:46:39.480 None whatsoever.

01:46:40.760 Did you have any idea

01:46:41.860 at that time

01:46:42.500 it was going to happen?

01:46:43.620 No.

01:46:43.900 Tell me about his demeanor

01:46:45.800 at that time

01:46:46.680 when you looked

01:46:47.780 and realized

01:46:48.800 he had a knife

01:46:49.600 and you in a cuff.

01:46:51.360 What was,

01:46:51.920 you were only cuffed

01:46:53.040 on one wrist?

01:46:53.860 One wrist, yeah.

01:46:54.960 What was happening

01:46:55.740 to the other part

01:46:56.660 of the handcuff?

01:46:57.580 Okay, yeah.

01:46:58.160 Now, pay attention, guys.

01:46:59.040 This is where shit

01:46:59.720 starts to get

01:47:00.380 very weird.

01:47:02.960 He got it in his hand.

01:47:05.280 He was holding it?

01:47:06.060 Holding that in the wrist, yeah.

01:47:07.640 Where was the knife?

01:47:08.700 In the other hand?

01:47:09.620 The knife was like,

01:47:10.760 yeah, here,

01:47:11.500 the knife was in his hand.

01:47:12.740 He had it on me like this.

01:47:14.100 But the record reflect

01:47:15.140 he was holding

01:47:15.860 the knife in his right hand

01:47:18.540 as he showed it,

01:47:19.620 holding the cuff

01:47:20.320 in his left hand.

01:47:21.000 Is that right?

01:47:21.780 And your left hand is cuff.

01:47:23.540 Yeah, right.

01:47:24.060 Where do you have the knife?

01:47:24.900 What kind of a knife was it?

01:47:26.200 It was like a military knife,

01:47:28.020 a machete of some type.

01:47:29.880 He had it lowered

01:47:30.660 right up under my ribcage.

01:47:32.560 So he had it

01:47:33.380 somewhere in the back here.

01:47:34.440 He had it pointed

01:47:35.060 at your ribcage.

01:47:35.780 Yeah.

01:47:36.240 Did you feel it?

01:47:37.180 Yeah, he had it on me.

01:47:38.740 He had it against my body.

01:47:40.300 What happened,

01:47:40.920 what was going through your mind

01:47:42.180 the moment that happened

01:47:43.360 when you realized

01:47:44.280 you had a knife at your side

01:47:46.180 and a handcuff on your hand?

01:47:47.900 What do you think?

01:47:49.120 I think like,

01:47:49.980 you know,

01:47:50.280 what's going on?

01:47:51.140 You know,

01:47:51.640 this guy is so nice

01:47:52.720 and all of a sudden,

01:47:53.420 you know,

01:47:53.720 it's like he was.

01:47:55.000 Yeah, seriously.

01:47:55.580 He was so nice.

01:47:56.380 The next thing you know.

01:47:58.860 Could you imagine, bro?

01:47:59.980 Like,

01:48:00.220 think about this for a second.

01:48:01.380 You go to some dude's house,

01:48:03.060 right?

01:48:04.040 Assuming you like

01:48:04.860 play for the same team

01:48:06.240 and you're like,

01:48:07.460 yeah,

01:48:07.660 I'm about to get some action.

01:48:09.400 Next thing you know,

01:48:10.080 this nigga puts on

01:48:10.760 the Exorcist 3.

01:48:12.820 Just slaps a handcuff on you.

01:48:15.160 Next thing you know,

01:48:15.860 you're like,

01:48:16.200 what the hell is going on here?

01:48:17.440 Like,

01:48:17.680 what the what?

01:48:18.840 And then he just starts like,

01:48:20.600 like,

01:48:20.940 go like this.

01:48:22.520 Fucking.

01:48:25.180 You're like,

01:48:25.680 hey, bro,

01:48:26.080 I think I'm going to go.

01:48:26.860 Nigga pulls out a fucking gun

01:48:27.920 next to you.

01:48:28.400 Like,

01:48:28.620 hey,

01:48:28.800 where are you going?

01:48:30.060 And he just grabs a knife

01:48:30.920 and he just fucking puts it

01:48:31.780 on your fucking ribcage.

01:48:32.680 What do you want to do?

01:48:34.080 That's fucking craziness,

01:48:35.060 man.

01:48:36.640 And again,

01:48:37.740 Jeffrey Dahmer,

01:48:38.540 right?

01:48:38.720 He's out here with the big

01:48:39.660 aviator,

01:48:40.280 yellow frame glasses.

01:48:42.060 You know,

01:48:42.220 he seems unharmed,

01:48:43.400 you know,

01:48:43.780 unsuspecting,

01:48:44.640 seems like a nice guy.

01:48:46.040 And man,

01:48:47.060 it's fucking crazy,

01:48:47.840 bro.

01:48:48.400 Looks going to be deceiving.

01:48:49.720 Pulling knives

01:48:50.480 and handcuffs

01:48:51.200 and all on me,

01:48:51.820 you know.

01:48:52.460 What'd you do?

01:48:53.180 What'd you say to him?

01:48:54.000 I asked him what the problem was,

01:48:55.480 you know,

01:48:55.840 that it's not necessary

01:48:56.940 to do this,

01:48:57.680 you know.

01:48:58.100 What'd he say?

01:48:59.080 He told me at that point

01:49:00.260 if I wouldn't do what he said,

01:49:01.440 he would kill me.

01:49:02.120 Yeah.

01:49:02.680 Now,

01:49:03.180 tell us about his demeanor

01:49:05.480 at the time that you look at him

01:49:07.760 and you say,

01:49:08.400 what's going on?

01:49:09.180 You don't have to do this.

01:49:10.620 What happens to Mr. Dahmer?

01:49:12.040 What's he like?

01:49:13.240 It's like not the same person

01:49:15.260 that we met

01:49:16.000 at Grand Avenue Mall.

01:49:17.120 How is he different?

01:49:18.700 His face structure

01:49:19.980 seemed different.

01:49:21.380 You know,

01:49:21.740 his body structure

01:49:22.800 is like

01:49:23.360 it wasn't him anymore.

01:49:24.760 You know,

01:49:25.280 it's like it was

01:49:25.900 a totally different guy there.

01:49:27.780 So he told you

01:49:28.520 if you didn't do

01:49:29.180 what he told you to do,

01:49:30.400 he'd hurt you.

01:49:30.920 He'd hurt me.

01:49:31.700 What'd you do?

01:49:32.460 What happened?

01:49:33.040 Tell us

01:49:33.540 what happened

01:49:34.380 step by step

01:49:35.480 as best you can remember.

01:49:36.360 And then all of a sudden

01:49:37.100 he kind of calms down,

01:49:38.320 you know,

01:49:38.760 and then he said

01:49:39.400 he has a key

01:49:40.040 in the bedroom.

01:49:40.900 So we proceed

01:49:41.560 to the bedroom.

01:49:42.620 The key to the handcuffs.

01:49:43.720 Right.

01:49:44.580 Ah, man.

01:49:45.500 You know that's...

01:49:46.560 It's not the cap.

01:49:47.520 You know,

01:49:47.700 I got the keys

01:49:48.320 in the bedroom.

01:49:48.920 Just follow me there, bro.

01:49:50.420 Like, what?

01:49:54.180 Believed he was

01:49:54.760 going to take him off?

01:49:55.680 Yeah.

01:49:56.120 At that point,

01:49:56.780 I had to go along

01:49:57.660 with this guy,

01:49:58.460 you know,

01:49:58.860 and then if I had

01:50:00.080 to find out,

01:50:00.720 so I walked back there

01:50:01.580 with him.

01:50:01.980 He kind of guides me

01:50:02.760 back there, you know.

01:50:03.880 Guides you back

01:50:04.500 with the cuff

01:50:05.020 and the knife?

01:50:05.640 Yeah, right.

01:50:06.280 And you go into

01:50:06.800 the bedroom?

01:50:07.460 Right.

01:50:07.880 What do you see

01:50:08.400 in the bedroom?

01:50:10.340 A big,

01:50:11.340 about 50,

01:50:12.720 60 gallon drum,

01:50:13.660 barrel,

01:50:14.300 whatever.

01:50:15.800 Do you ever see

01:50:16.460 a 50,

01:50:17.400 60 drum barrel

01:50:18.380 in anybody's

01:50:19.320 bedroom before?

01:50:21.020 Not at all.

01:50:22.100 Do you have any idea?

01:50:22.820 Do you ask him

01:50:23.300 what it was?

01:50:24.160 No.

01:50:24.660 At that point,

01:50:25.300 I asked no questions

01:50:26.220 at that.

01:50:26.840 Yo,

01:50:27.300 somebody said,

01:50:28.260 T,

01:50:28.380 I understand.

01:50:32.800 Yo.

01:50:34.140 Was there a bed

01:50:35.040 in that room?

01:50:35.980 Yes.

01:50:36.840 How was the bed?

01:50:37.840 Was it made,

01:50:38.520 unmade?

01:50:38.980 It was unmade.

01:50:41.300 What did you see

01:50:42.280 on the bed,

01:50:42.760 if anything?

01:50:43.400 Something like

01:50:44.020 a stain of whatever

01:50:45.080 on the bed.

01:50:46.520 What did you think

01:50:47.000 it was?

01:50:49.080 At that point

01:50:49.860 in time,

01:50:50.260 I wasn't sure.

01:50:51.880 What did you do

01:50:52.640 when you got in

01:50:53.320 the bedroom?

01:50:54.020 Keep in mind,

01:50:56.320 guys,

01:50:56.460 that we know

01:50:56.880 that he had

01:50:57.440 killed people

01:50:58.080 on that bed.

01:50:59.500 So,

01:50:59.820 and it was

01:51:00.900 recently too.

01:51:01.680 It was like

01:51:02.080 in that month.

01:51:03.160 So,

01:51:03.580 that blood

01:51:04.080 that he was

01:51:04.500 seeing was

01:51:04.840 fairly fresh,

01:51:06.920 for lack

01:51:07.840 a better term.

01:51:09.160 What did you do?

01:51:10.400 I studied us

01:51:11.260 talking,

01:51:11.800 trying to be

01:51:12.260 friends with him.

01:51:13.480 Did you remain

01:51:14.200 standing?

01:51:14.860 Did you sit down?

01:51:15.580 He made me sit

01:51:16.480 down at that point.

01:51:17.340 We both sit

01:51:17.880 on the bed.

01:51:18.860 Was it at the

01:51:19.580 foot of the bed,

01:51:20.600 side of the bed,

01:51:21.500 head of the bed?

01:51:22.080 Maybe halfway

01:51:23.040 between.

01:51:24.680 Did that room

01:51:25.540 have a TV set in it?

01:51:27.540 Yes.

01:51:28.300 Was there anything

01:51:28.880 going on on the TV?

01:51:30.580 Yeah,

01:51:31.020 the Exorcist movies

01:51:32.060 was playing at that time.

01:51:33.620 There was an

01:51:34.060 Exorcist movie on?

01:51:35.120 Yeah.

01:51:35.480 What?

01:51:35.660 Do you know

01:51:35.980 which one of them?

01:51:37.400 The name,

01:51:38.020 I'm not sure.

01:51:38.600 I think it's

01:51:39.140 three.

01:51:40.060 I'm not sure

01:51:40.560 which one.

01:51:41.500 So,

01:51:41.680 there was a movie.

01:51:42.780 Did you know?

01:51:43.560 Hey,

01:51:43.900 which movie was it

01:51:44.720 that was playing

01:51:45.620 when you were

01:51:46.020 about to lose

01:51:46.500 your life,

01:51:46.940 nigga?

01:51:49.760 Like,

01:51:50.240 bruh,

01:51:50.760 what?

01:51:51.940 Do you know

01:51:52.140 it to be part

01:51:52.920 of television

01:51:53.760 or VCR?

01:51:55.920 VCR,

01:51:56.440 normally that's

01:51:57.080 not on regular

01:51:57.680 television,

01:51:58.380 so I thought

01:51:58.780 it was VCR.

01:51:59.720 You knew

01:52:00.080 there was a movie

01:52:00.680 show.

01:52:01.140 Right.

01:52:01.580 Did you see

01:52:02.080 him put it on

01:52:02.820 or was it on?

01:52:03.800 No.

01:52:04.280 When we first

01:52:04.880 got into the

01:52:05.560 apartment,

01:52:05.900 he went

01:52:06.180 through the

01:52:06.520 back,

01:52:07.080 to the

01:52:07.480 back bedroom.

01:52:08.300 Maybe he put

01:52:08.720 it on then,

01:52:09.320 I'm not sure.

01:52:09.920 Okay.

01:52:10.340 And then what

01:52:10.720 happened?

01:52:11.120 You're both

01:52:11.480 sitting on the

01:52:12.160 bed?

01:52:12.980 Yes.

01:52:13.540 Are you still

01:52:14.020 in handcuffs?

01:52:15.140 Yes.

01:52:15.740 Is he holding

01:52:16.260 the handcuff?

01:52:17.080 Right.

01:52:17.680 Do you still

01:52:18.220 have the knife?

01:52:19.120 Right.

01:52:19.660 Is it pointed

01:52:20.140 at your side

01:52:20.820 as you've

01:52:21.160 told us before?

01:52:22.620 You trying

01:52:23.160 to be cool?

01:52:24.460 Very much so.

01:52:25.320 You're not

01:52:26.020 fighting with

01:52:27.080 him?

01:52:27.560 No.

01:52:28.200 What's your

01:52:28.600 intention?

01:52:29.220 What are you

01:52:29.480 planning on

01:52:30.000 doing?

01:52:30.920 Getting away.

01:52:31.740 I was

01:52:32.020 contemplating on

01:52:32.920 at a point

01:52:33.440 jumping out

01:52:34.040 the window.

01:52:35.700 I was

01:52:36.300 basically talking

01:52:37.220 with this

01:52:37.620 person,

01:52:38.100 trying to let

01:52:38.540 him know I

01:52:38.880 was his

01:52:39.220 friend.

01:52:40.900 As you

01:52:41.500 were sitting

01:52:42.080 there on

01:52:43.600 the bed,

01:52:44.720 when he had

01:52:45.820 you by the

01:52:46.380 handcuff and

01:52:47.920 a knife at

01:52:48.520 your side,

01:52:49.280 at that

01:52:51.460 time,

01:52:52.120 which would

01:52:52.480 have been

01:52:52.840 maybe a

01:52:53.240 seven o'clock?

01:52:55.460 Something like

01:52:56.220 that.

01:52:56.460 What impression

01:52:57.180 was made

01:52:57.740 upon your

01:52:58.320 mind by

01:53:00.140 the conduct,

01:53:01.220 action,

01:53:02.280 manner,

01:53:03.120 expression,

01:53:03.800 and conversation?

01:53:05.000 Hey, guys,

01:53:05.420 let's see you

01:53:05.740 understand.

01:53:06.260 More than

01:53:06.540 likely, this

01:53:07.060 is the

01:53:07.340 prosecutor

01:53:07.780 asking him

01:53:08.400 the questions.

01:53:09.560 Okay?

01:53:10.080 So, since

01:53:10.780 the prosecutor

01:53:11.260 is the one

01:53:11.580 asking him

01:53:11.980 the questions,

01:53:12.900 he's asking,

01:53:14.400 and I know

01:53:14.780 it seems really

01:53:15.280 redundant,

01:53:16.080 and I know

01:53:16.620 some of you

01:53:16.860 guys are in

01:53:17.140 the chat

01:53:17.380 are putting

01:53:17.620 like, yo,

01:53:18.000 this is L

01:53:18.500 questions,

01:53:18.880 L questions,

01:53:19.460 L questions.

01:53:19.980 The reason why

01:53:20.740 he's going

01:53:21.060 into such

01:53:21.460 meticulous

01:53:21.900 detail is

01:53:22.920 because he

01:53:24.220 wants the

01:53:24.680 jury to

01:53:25.820 see, like,

01:53:27.260 to know the

01:53:28.200 details of

01:53:28.680 what was going

01:53:29.120 on, because

01:53:29.380 remember, the

01:53:30.060 jury doesn't

01:53:30.600 know all

01:53:30.920 these details

01:53:31.380 like we do

01:53:31.900 now, right?

01:53:32.560 There wasn't

01:53:33.060 a Netflix

01:53:33.440 documentary back

01:53:34.900 then that

01:53:35.740 let the people

01:53:36.360 like, or a

01:53:37.420 Netflix special

01:53:38.020 that let the

01:53:38.420 people kind of

01:53:38.860 see the

01:53:39.080 intimate details.

01:53:40.060 There wasn't

01:53:40.320 a documentary

01:53:40.800 that let the

01:53:41.280 people know

01:53:41.640 what the hell

01:53:42.000 is going on

01:53:42.340 with the

01:53:42.540 case.

01:53:43.100 So, the

01:53:44.020 jury, right,

01:53:45.220 needs to know

01:53:46.020 what's going

01:53:46.740 on, because when

01:53:47.360 you become the

01:53:47.900 jury in a

01:53:48.500 case like

01:53:48.840 this, you

01:53:49.500 are not

01:53:49.940 allowed to

01:53:50.980 know the

01:53:51.400 facts of the

01:53:52.060 case from

01:53:52.840 the press.

01:53:53.880 Like, this is

01:53:54.200 another issue

01:53:54.680 that came along

01:53:55.320 with the OJ

01:53:56.000 Simpson case, and

01:53:56.640 I want you

01:53:57.020 guys to really,

01:53:57.600 really understand

01:53:58.480 this, that when

01:53:59.720 you're on a

01:54:00.140 jury for a

01:54:00.660 criminal case,

01:54:01.340 you are not

01:54:02.080 allowed to

01:54:03.420 consume any

01:54:04.980 content on

01:54:06.900 the case for

01:54:07.940 which you are

01:54:08.560 a juror.

01:54:09.320 that's very

01:54:10.240 important, and

01:54:11.000 the reason why

01:54:11.660 he's asking

01:54:12.160 these redundant

01:54:12.820 boring questions

01:54:13.680 that you're

01:54:13.980 like, what

01:54:14.260 the fuck, we

01:54:14.960 know the

01:54:15.180 answer to

01:54:15.520 this, is

01:54:15.980 because the

01:54:16.460 jury doesn't

01:54:17.080 know.

01:54:17.640 So, what he

01:54:18.040 wants to do

01:54:18.580 is he wants

01:54:19.240 to witness to

01:54:20.240 give testimony

01:54:21.260 that's extremely

01:54:22.700 detailed so

01:54:23.980 that the jury

01:54:24.680 can feel like

01:54:25.360 they were there,

01:54:26.060 and he wants

01:54:27.360 the jury to

01:54:28.360 feel his

01:54:29.180 terror when he

01:54:30.960 was there next

01:54:32.260 to Jeffrey Dahmer.

01:54:33.280 That's the

01:54:33.940 prosecutor's goal

01:54:34.680 here.

01:54:35.120 He's trying to

01:54:35.860 paint Jeffrey

01:54:36.540 Dahmer in a

01:54:37.240 light that he's

01:54:38.100 a monster, he's

01:54:39.400 evil, he's

01:54:40.400 terrorizing this

01:54:41.360 witness that's

01:54:41.880 on the stand,

01:54:42.940 he wants this

01:54:44.660 testimony to

01:54:45.360 make a real

01:54:46.040 impact with

01:54:47.500 the jury.

01:54:48.180 Because remember,

01:54:49.040 the jury are

01:54:49.680 still human

01:54:50.220 beings, they

01:54:51.020 still are going

01:54:52.020 to feel a

01:54:53.140 certain way

01:54:53.540 based on

01:54:54.000 testimony.

01:54:54.600 It's the

01:54:54.860 prosecutor's job

01:54:55.800 to illustrate

01:54:56.940 the criminal

01:54:58.340 activity, right,

01:54:59.700 and make the

01:55:00.680 jury feel like

01:55:01.440 they were there

01:55:02.080 so they can

01:55:03.000 say, oh,

01:55:03.660 this thing is

01:55:03.980 guilty.

01:55:04.620 If I was

01:55:04.940 there, I

01:55:05.180 would have,

01:55:05.640 hell, nah,

01:55:06.400 fuck that.

01:55:07.380 That's the

01:55:07.800 prosecutor's

01:55:08.280 job.

01:55:08.760 Now, at

01:55:09.020 this point,

01:55:09.600 mind you,

01:55:10.420 right, he

01:55:11.360 had already

01:55:11.740 confessed, he

01:55:12.380 had already

01:55:12.700 said, yeah, I

01:55:13.180 did it, blah,

01:55:13.720 blah, blah,

01:55:13.980 whatever, but

01:55:14.880 they're trying

01:55:15.460 to go for

01:55:16.360 the maximum

01:55:17.020 here.

01:55:18.420 Now, keep

01:55:18.780 in mind also

01:55:19.260 that Wisconsin

01:55:19.780 does not have

01:55:20.280 the death

01:55:20.580 penalty.

01:55:21.540 So at

01:55:22.420 this point,

01:55:22.940 it's kind

01:55:23.540 of like, hey,

01:55:24.160 we want to,

01:55:25.540 I know we

01:55:26.000 got them,

01:55:26.460 that's the

01:55:26.700 rights, but

01:55:27.460 I want y'all

01:55:28.000 to really feel

01:55:29.080 the pain that

01:55:30.180 this witness

01:55:30.640 was going

01:55:31.140 through when

01:55:31.780 he was sitting

01:55:32.200 there on

01:55:32.680 that bed

01:55:33.180 playing The

01:55:34.320 Exorcist

01:55:34.860 3, which

01:55:35.600 is a terrible

01:55:36.080 movie, by

01:55:36.600 the way,

01:55:36.880 guys.

01:55:37.380 But anyway,

01:55:38.380 besides being

01:55:38.960 fearful for

01:55:39.620 your life,

01:55:40.440 my man got

01:55:40.920 one of the

01:55:41.340 trashest

01:55:42.200 fucking horror

01:55:44.580 movies on.

01:55:45.660 But I digress.

01:55:46.980 Let's continue

01:55:47.420 on.

01:55:49.240 That you

01:55:49.820 observed of

01:55:50.500 Mr.

01:55:50.800 Dahmer.

01:55:54.160 His frame of

01:55:54.980 mind is what

01:55:55.620 you want to

01:55:56.000 know, right?

01:55:57.080 Okay, he

01:55:57.680 acted, at

01:55:58.920 times he would

01:55:59.480 go through

01:55:59.820 like different

01:56:00.380 changes with

01:56:01.160 me, you

01:56:01.480 know?

01:56:01.980 Tell us about

01:56:02.520 that.

01:56:03.160 One minute

01:56:03.540 he's like

01:56:04.040 nice, then

01:56:05.560 he was

01:56:05.800 telling he

01:56:06.280 didn't want

01:56:06.600 people to

01:56:07.060 leave him

01:56:07.460 or abandon

01:56:08.160 him, things

01:56:08.960 of this

01:56:09.300 nature, you

01:56:09.900 know?

01:56:10.600 Yeah.

01:56:11.300 Well, what

01:56:11.600 did you think

01:56:12.160 about him as

01:56:12.840 a person?

01:56:13.440 What impression

01:56:14.000 was made on

01:56:14.560 your mind of

01:56:15.100 this fellow

01:56:15.540 that you're

01:56:15.940 dealing with

01:56:16.480 here?

01:56:17.220 Yeah, that

01:56:18.160 at times he

01:56:19.540 wasn't his

01:56:20.140 self, and

01:56:20.700 then at

01:56:21.020 times he

01:56:21.480 was like a

01:56:22.280 nice guy,

01:56:23.060 you know?

01:56:23.660 He would

01:56:23.960 come and

01:56:24.320 go different

01:56:25.080 times, you

01:56:25.740 know, throughout

01:56:26.460 the whole time.

01:56:27.260 Then he

01:56:27.460 would like sit

01:56:28.220 being quiet at

01:56:29.600 times, watching

01:56:30.420 the movie,

01:56:30.920 wanting me to

01:56:31.460 watch the

01:56:31.920 movie, you

01:56:32.860 know, and

01:56:33.560 just doing

01:56:34.000 little tanning

01:56:34.700 sounds, you

01:56:35.360 know?

01:56:35.900 Did you

01:56:36.420 observe him

01:56:37.120 watching the

01:56:37.860 movie and

01:56:38.320 how he would

01:56:38.880 react to the

01:56:39.540 movie?

01:56:40.040 Right, he

01:56:40.480 would like to

01:56:41.000 start rocking

01:56:42.280 back and

01:56:42.780 forth, you

01:56:43.400 know, certain

01:56:44.200 parts of the

01:56:44.820 movie or

01:56:45.160 whatever.

01:56:45.800 What did he

01:56:46.880 say, Madam

01:56:47.240 ?

01:56:47.260 He was like

01:56:47.740 chanting at

01:56:48.380 certain times

01:56:49.060 and rocking

01:56:49.520 back and

01:56:50.040 forth.

01:56:50.840 Tell us

01:56:51.380 about his

01:56:51.800 chanting, what

01:56:52.480 was that all

01:56:52.960 about?

01:56:53.400 I'm not even

01:56:54.140 sure.

01:56:54.560 Could you

01:56:54.820 imagine, bro,

01:56:56.280 fucking

01:56:56.660 chanting?

01:56:57.360 Like, what

01:56:57.820 would you do

01:56:58.140 on him in

01:56:58.440 that situation?

01:57:01.040 Start chanting

01:57:01.780 with him.

01:57:02.260 Give us

01:57:04.680 your chant.

01:57:05.660 No, no.

01:57:07.980 Come on.

01:57:08.760 You don't

01:57:08.980 got a chant.

01:57:12.400 That's what

01:57:13.000 you would do.

01:57:13.320 You just

01:57:14.040 would say,

01:57:14.560 okay, LL

01:57:18.760 autumn.

01:57:20.560 I would do

01:57:21.060 this shit.

01:57:28.300 I'm like,

01:57:28.820 don't kill

01:57:29.180 me.

01:57:30.460 Don't

01:57:30.860 kill me.

01:57:34.980 I don't

01:57:35.540 think he

01:57:35.860 would want

01:57:36.180 you after

01:57:36.560 that.

01:57:37.300 He probably

01:57:37.700 would.

01:57:37.980 He'd be like,

01:57:38.200 what the

01:57:38.460 hell?

01:57:38.940 And then I

01:57:39.340 would tell

01:57:39.680 him,

01:57:40.620 the show

01:57:41.040 goes on.

01:57:42.920 And then I

01:57:43.520 would tell

01:57:43.760 him, I'm

01:57:44.120 not fucking

01:57:44.520 leaving.

01:57:44.740 I'm not

01:57:45.400 fucking

01:57:46.440 leaving.

01:57:46.860 He would

01:57:54.000 be excited

01:57:54.520 as fuck.

01:57:54.840 He'd

01:57:54.960 probably

01:57:55.140 get rock

01:57:55.640 solid off

01:57:56.100 that shit.

01:57:57.040 He'd be

01:57:57.200 like, what?

01:57:57.780 You ain't

01:57:58.000 leaving?

01:57:59.020 Nope.

01:57:59.620 The show

01:57:59.820 goes on.

01:58:03.100 This is

01:58:03.700 my home.

01:58:04.920 They're

01:58:05.200 going to

01:58:05.480 need a

01:58:05.900 fucking

01:58:06.280 wrecking

01:58:06.840 ball to

01:58:07.820 take me

01:58:08.620 out of

01:58:09.100 here.

01:58:09.400 They're

01:58:09.660 going to

01:58:09.860 need a

01:58:10.120 wrecking

01:58:10.420 ball, man.

01:58:11.440 Which they

01:58:11.800 eventually did

01:58:12.300 use a wrecking

01:58:12.800 ball in that

01:58:13.160 apartment complex

01:58:13.860 to destroy it.

01:58:14.400 But that's a

01:58:14.720 whole other

01:58:15.060 fucking

01:58:15.340 conversation.

01:58:15.860 I'm having

01:58:16.780 too much

01:58:17.140 fun on

01:58:17.460 this show.

01:58:17.980 Like the

01:58:18.280 fucking

01:58:18.480 video,

01:58:18.820 motherfuckers.

01:58:19.620 All right?

01:58:20.140 Are you

01:58:20.440 not

01:58:20.600 entertained?

01:58:21.960 Let's continue

01:58:22.600 on with the

01:58:22.900 testimony.

01:58:24.180 Sorry, but

01:58:24.720 it was just

01:58:25.440 like, I

01:58:26.180 can't tell

01:58:26.620 you the

01:58:26.920 words.

01:58:27.300 I

01:58:27.380 couldn't

01:58:27.560 understand

01:58:28.020 what he

01:58:28.320 was saying

01:58:28.800 at that

01:58:29.580 time.

01:58:30.540 Can you

01:58:30.920 mimic him?

01:58:32.120 How it

01:58:32.600 sounded?

01:58:33.220 It was

01:58:33.480 like a

01:58:33.880 slow

01:58:34.160 sliver.

01:58:34.460 Hey, you

01:58:34.720 niggas over

01:58:35.100 here saying

01:58:35.480 pause.

01:58:36.500 Bro, I'm

01:58:36.860 trying to

01:58:37.180 live.

01:58:37.940 The

01:58:38.140 hell?

01:58:38.620 I know

01:58:38.840 this dude

01:58:39.120 obviously

01:58:39.460 don't want

01:58:39.760 me to

01:58:39.960 leave.

01:58:40.420 I'm not

01:58:40.640 trying to

01:58:40.920 die.

01:58:41.740 Y'all

01:58:41.900 all here

01:58:42.220 saying pause,

01:58:42.960 pause,

01:58:43.320 pause.

01:58:43.620 That's why

01:58:43.920 y'all

01:58:44.060 niggas end

01:58:44.440 up getting

01:58:44.780 killed,

01:58:45.560 getting

01:58:45.760 shanked.

01:58:46.580 I would

01:58:47.140 live,

01:58:47.440 though.

01:58:47.840 You

01:58:47.940 know what

01:58:48.140 I'm

01:58:48.180 saying?

01:58:49.700 Turning

01:58:50.100 into Jordan

01:58:50.460 Belford

01:58:50.800 in that

01:58:51.060 bitch.

01:58:51.540 I'm

01:58:51.600 not

01:58:51.680 leaving.

01:58:54.020 Some

01:58:54.380 of that

01:58:54.720 nature,

01:58:55.220 some

01:58:55.380 close

01:58:55.760 like

01:58:56.000 that,

01:58:56.200 I'm

01:58:56.300 not

01:58:56.480 sure.

01:58:57.000 Did

01:58:57.120 it

01:58:57.240 keep

01:58:57.480 on

01:58:57.720 for a

01:58:58.100 period

01:58:58.320 of

01:58:58.480 time?

01:58:59.000 Off

01:58:59.280 and

01:58:59.420 on

01:58:59.600 throughout

01:58:59.900 the

01:59:00.100 ordeal.

01:59:00.860 And

01:59:00.980 how

01:59:01.220 about

01:59:01.620 the

01:59:02.120 movement

01:59:02.760 back

01:59:03.140 and

01:59:03.340 forth?

01:59:03.720 How

01:59:03.920 was

01:59:04.540 that

01:59:04.740 being

01:59:05.000 effectuated?

01:59:06.480 Just

01:59:06.920 like

01:59:07.180 back

01:59:07.760 and

01:59:07.940 forth.

01:59:08.200 He

01:59:08.280 would

01:59:08.420 do

01:59:08.540 it

01:59:08.640 every

01:59:08.840 now

01:59:09.100 and

01:59:09.240 then.

01:59:09.840 Just

01:59:10.020 as you

01:59:10.340 are

01:59:10.500 rocking

01:59:10.840 in your

01:59:11.260 chair.

01:59:12.740 And

01:59:12.780 chanting.

01:59:14.440 Was there

01:59:15.020 any parts

01:59:15.620 of the

01:59:15.900 movie

01:59:16.240 that was

01:59:16.760 going

01:59:17.040 on

01:59:17.320 that

01:59:17.480 you

01:59:17.620 saw

01:59:17.960 that

01:59:18.180 he

01:59:18.300 said

01:59:18.540 anything

01:59:18.820 about?

01:59:20.760 It

01:59:21.240 was

01:59:21.360 like

01:59:21.560 the

01:59:21.700 part

01:59:21.920 about

01:59:22.160 the

01:59:22.340 preacher

01:59:22.780 that

01:59:24.700 used

01:59:24.960 to

01:59:25.080 be

01:59:25.200 a

01:59:25.360 preacher

01:59:25.620 that

01:59:25.900 got

01:59:26.200 possessed

01:59:26.780 and

01:59:28.580 that

01:59:28.820 it

01:59:32.200 seemed

01:59:32.560 like

01:59:32.820 he

01:59:32.940 was

01:59:33.180 like

01:59:33.580 interested

01:59:35.300 in

01:59:35.580 that

01:59:35.840 part.

01:59:36.260 That

01:59:36.380 part

01:59:36.640 had

01:59:36.860 his

01:59:37.040 attention

01:59:37.440 more

01:59:37.800 than

01:59:38.000 anything.

01:59:39.020 Tell

01:59:39.300 us

01:59:39.480 about

01:59:39.800 what

01:59:40.480 you

01:59:40.600 mean

01:59:40.880 by

01:59:41.060 that.

01:59:41.300 What

01:59:41.400 impressions

01:59:41.940 were

01:59:42.140 made

01:59:42.320 upon

01:59:42.600 your

01:59:42.800 mind

01:59:43.280 when

01:59:43.900 this

01:59:44.100 was

01:59:44.300 going

01:59:44.580 on

01:59:44.860 as

01:59:45.120 to

01:59:45.360 had

01:59:46.000 his

01:59:46.220 attention?

01:59:46.820 How

01:59:46.940 did he

01:59:47.720 appear

01:59:47.980 to

01:59:48.140 you?

01:59:48.820 It

01:59:48.920 appeared

01:59:49.200 like

01:59:49.560 he

01:59:50.840 wanted

01:59:51.640 to

01:59:51.880 mimic

01:59:52.160 it

01:59:52.500 or

01:59:53.100 be

01:59:53.760 like

01:59:54.040 that

01:59:54.400 part

01:59:54.840 being

01:59:55.920 demon.

01:59:57.220 Jeffrey

01:59:57.780 Dahmer

01:59:58.100 was

01:59:58.300 on

01:59:58.480 demon

01:59:58.720 time

01:59:58.980 way

01:59:59.180 before

01:59:59.460 we

01:59:59.700 started

02:00:00.140 saying

02:00:00.420 that

02:00:00.660 shit.

02:00:02.960 I

02:00:03.360 said

02:00:03.600 whatever

02:00:03.940 in that

02:00:04.280 nature.

02:00:04.960 I'm

02:00:05.120 sorry.

02:00:05.460 I missed

02:00:05.580 you.

02:00:05.820 He got

02:00:05.840 like

02:00:06.060 he

02:00:06.180 wanted

02:00:06.400 that

02:00:06.760 type

02:00:07.340 of

02:00:07.500 movie.

02:00:08.360 That

02:00:08.480 part

02:00:08.840 certain

02:00:09.260 parts

02:00:09.700 of

02:00:10.080 that

02:00:10.280 part

02:00:10.580 interested

02:00:11.180 him.

02:00:12.180 It

02:00:12.780 was

02:00:12.920 like

02:00:13.160 he

02:00:13.300 changed

02:00:13.740 with

02:00:14.180 it.

02:00:14.500 At

02:00:14.520 times

02:00:14.820 then

02:00:14.980 he

02:00:15.080 would

02:00:15.200 get

02:00:15.340 more

02:00:15.580 aggressive

02:00:15.920 try

02:00:16.220 to

02:00:16.340 get

02:00:16.460 me

02:00:16.560 to

02:00:16.720 handcuff

02:00:17.200 myself

02:00:17.680 both

02:00:18.360 hands.

02:00:19.040 He

02:00:19.320 told

02:00:19.600 me

02:00:19.740 it

02:00:19.840 made

02:00:19.980 him

02:00:20.100 feel

02:00:20.300 more

02:00:20.520 dominant.

02:00:22.860 Okay.

02:00:23.500 Did

02:00:23.660 you

02:00:23.900 and

02:00:24.040 he

02:00:24.200 move

02:00:24.500 off

02:00:24.780 of

02:00:30.420 the

02:00:30.620 floor

02:00:30.840 at

02:00:31.020 that

02:00:31.180 time?

02:00:31.700 Did

02:00:31.940 you

02:00:32.060 at

02:00:32.220 any

02:00:32.400 time

02:00:32.700 go

02:00:32.920 to

02:00:33.060 the

02:00:33.220 bathroom

02:00:33.820 use

02:00:34.380 the

02:00:34.580 wash

02:00:34.920 room

02:00:35.160 prior

02:00:35.480 to

02:00:35.660 the

02:00:35.780 time

02:00:36.080 that

02:00:36.220 he

02:00:36.340 asked

02:00:36.560 you

02:00:36.680 to

02:00:36.760 lay

02:00:36.880 down

02:00:37.140 on

02:00:37.280 the

02:00:37.380 floor?

02:00:37.880 No.

02:00:38.560 Tell

02:00:38.960 us

02:00:39.140 what

02:00:39.300 happened

02:00:39.660 when

02:00:39.920 he

02:00:41.120 told

02:00:41.340 you

02:00:41.480 to

02:00:41.580 lay

02:00:41.720 down

02:00:41.960 on

02:00:42.060 the

02:00:42.180 floor.

02:00:42.360 He

02:00:42.620 told

02:00:42.800 me

02:00:42.920 to

02:00:43.040 lay

02:00:43.200 down

02:00:43.480 face

02:00:44.000 down

02:00:44.480 put

02:00:45.000 both

02:00:45.240 of

02:00:45.340 my

02:00:45.500 hands

02:00:45.780 behind

02:00:46.100 my

02:00:46.320 back

02:00:46.580 because

02:00:46.760 he

02:00:46.900 changed

02:00:48.780 again

02:00:49.140 at

02:00:49.320 that

02:00:49.520 point

02:00:49.800 like

02:00:50.040 he

02:00:50.160 got

02:00:50.300 more

02:00:50.520 aggressive

02:00:50.940 at

02:00:51.220 that

02:00:51.400 time.

02:00:52.520 Tell

02:00:53.120 us

02:00:53.460 did

02:00:54.820 he

02:00:54.940 still

02:00:55.180 have

02:00:55.360 the

02:00:55.500 knife

02:00:55.780 out?

02:00:56.400 Yes

02:00:56.700 he

02:00:56.860 still

02:00:57.060 had

02:00:57.220 the

02:00:57.340 knife

02:00:57.560 out.

02:00:57.740 What

02:00:58.120 did

02:00:58.340 you

02:00:58.460 do?

02:00:59.260 I

02:00:59.640 laid

02:01:00.300 on

02:01:00.460 my

02:01:00.640 sides

02:01:00.980 for

02:01:01.160 some

02:01:01.400 reason

02:01:01.740 I

02:01:02.020 guess

02:01:02.200 God

02:01:02.460 told

02:01:02.720 me

02:01:02.880 not

02:01:03.180 to

02:01:03.660 lay

02:01:03.860 flat

02:01:04.160 down

02:01:04.460 or

02:01:04.620 let

02:01:04.780 this

02:01:04.980 person

02:01:05.320 handcuff

02:01:05.880 me

02:01:06.080 so

02:01:06.280 I

02:01:06.440 didn't.

02:01:07.240 You

02:01:07.440 were

02:01:07.560 trying

02:01:07.800 to

02:01:07.960 stop

02:01:08.200 that

02:01:08.400 from

02:01:08.560 happening

02:01:08.820 but

02:01:09.000 you

02:01:09.100 got

02:01:09.260 down

02:01:09.480 on

02:01:09.600 the

02:01:09.680 show.

02:01:10.140 Lee

02:01:10.380 stop

02:01:11.040 the

02:01:11.200 show

02:01:11.400 shout

02:01:12.160 out

02:01:12.300 to

02:01:12.380 our

02:01:12.520 fucking

02:01:12.780 guy

02:01:13.000 by

02:01:13.200 the

02:01:13.320 way

02:01:13.460 Trill

02:01:13.700 Steve

02:01:13.960 just

02:01:16.580 so

02:01:16.780 Susan

02:01:17.460 would

02:01:17.800 let

02:01:17.960 me

02:01:18.060 do

02:01:18.240 it.

02:01:18.680 Oh

02:01:18.840 my

02:01:18.980 God.

02:01:19.400 All right

02:01:19.760 Trill

02:01:20.340 that's

02:01:20.780 it.

02:01:21.240 I

02:01:21.340 appreciate

02:01:21.640 the

02:01:21.860 donations

02:01:22.220 my

02:01:22.460 friend

02:01:22.760 but

02:01:23.380 save

02:01:24.240 that

02:01:24.400 goddamn

02:01:24.680 money.

02:01:25.680 I

02:01:25.740 love

02:01:25.900 you

02:01:25.980 though.

02:01:26.140 Thank

02:01:26.260 you

02:01:26.340 so

02:01:26.440 much

02:01:26.600 man.

02:01:27.380 Fucking

02:01:27.660 baller

02:01:28.000 alert

02:01:28.240 in

02:01:28.400 the

02:01:28.520 fucking

02:01:28.760 house

02:01:29.000 man

02:01:29.300 making

02:01:30.080 us

02:01:30.260 all

02:01:30.400 look

02:01:30.580 bad.

02:01:34.880 Right.

02:01:35.620 What

02:01:35.800 did

02:01:35.980 he

02:01:36.120 do?

02:01:37.120 He

02:01:37.380 kind

02:01:37.560 of

02:01:37.660 laid

02:01:37.820 across

02:01:38.240 me

02:01:38.440 put

02:01:38.640 his

02:01:38.800 head

02:01:38.960 across

02:01:39.300 my

02:01:39.560 chest

02:01:39.840 at

02:01:40.020 that

02:01:40.200 point.

02:01:40.880 What

02:01:41.120 was

02:01:41.280 he

02:01:41.400 doing

02:01:41.680 with

02:01:41.880 his

02:01:42.040 head?

02:01:42.820 Pardon

02:01:43.180 me?

02:01:43.380 What

02:01:43.520 did

02:01:43.660 it

02:01:43.800 appear

02:01:44.100 to

02:01:44.280 you

02:01:44.440 he

02:01:44.600 was

02:01:44.820 doing

02:01:45.160 with

02:01:45.420 his

02:01:45.620 head?

02:01:46.320 What

02:01:46.500 was

02:01:46.620 he

02:01:46.720 trying

02:01:46.960 to

02:01:47.140 do?

02:01:47.560 Like

02:01:47.760 he

02:01:47.860 was

02:01:48.020 listening

02:01:48.380 to

02:01:48.600 my

02:01:48.800 heart

02:01:49.040 at

02:01:51.540 that

02:01:51.720 point.

02:01:52.140 He

02:01:52.680 said

02:01:52.700 he

02:01:52.780 was

02:01:52.880 going

02:01:53.000 to

02:01:53.060 eat

02:01:53.240 your

02:01:53.380 heart?

02:01:53.960 Yes.

02:01:55.240 Did

02:01:55.640 he

02:01:55.740 still

02:01:55.960 have

02:01:56.140 the

02:01:56.280 knife?

02:01:58.040 Yeah.

02:01:58.300 What

02:01:58.420 would

02:01:58.540 y'all

02:01:58.740 do?

02:02:00.260 What

02:02:00.660 would

02:02:01.020 you

02:02:01.120 do

02:02:01.440 if

02:02:02.120 he

02:02:02.200 was

02:02:03.660 chanting

02:02:04.060 playing

02:02:04.580 exorcism

02:02:05.220 exorcist

02:02:06.060 three?

02:02:06.620 Say he

02:02:06.860 going to

02:02:07.020 eat

02:02:07.160 your

02:02:07.280 heart.

02:02:07.540 What

02:02:07.560 would

02:02:07.880 you

02:02:07.960 do?

02:02:09.480 Realistically

02:02:09.880 I

02:02:10.120 would

02:02:10.200 probably

02:02:10.440 poop

02:02:10.660 my

02:02:10.820 pants

02:02:11.280 to

02:02:11.800 be

02:02:11.960 honest.

02:02:13.260 That

02:02:13.460 would

02:02:13.580 turn

02:02:13.780 him

02:02:13.900 on.

02:02:14.840 Oh

02:02:15.040 would

02:02:15.240 it?

02:02:15.620 Probably.

02:02:16.280 Suck

02:02:16.760 it

02:02:16.900 in.

02:02:17.140 I

02:02:17.160 don't

02:02:17.260 know.

02:02:19.920 Yeah.

02:02:20.360 And

02:02:20.400 y'all

02:02:20.580 out

02:02:20.700 here

02:02:20.840 saying

02:02:21.100 you

02:02:21.240 would

02:02:21.380 leave.

02:02:21.680 Get

02:02:21.760 out

02:02:21.920 of

02:02:21.980 here

02:02:22.100 man.

02:02:22.740 You

02:02:22.900 better

02:02:23.340 Wolf

02:02:23.900 Wall

02:02:24.220 Street

02:02:24.380 that

02:02:24.580 bitch.

02:02:24.880 I'm

02:02:24.960 not

02:02:25.120 fucking

02:02:25.320 leaving.

02:02:26.420 Where

02:02:26.820 was

02:02:27.060 the

02:02:27.200 knife

02:02:27.420 pointed?

02:02:29.620 When

02:02:30.020 I

02:02:30.140 was

02:02:30.280 on

02:02:30.420 the

02:02:30.560 floor

02:02:30.740 he

02:02:30.920 had

02:02:31.040 it

02:02:31.160 pointed

02:02:31.380 at

02:02:31.580 my

02:02:31.760 groin

02:02:32.140 area

02:02:32.460 at

02:02:32.620 that

02:02:32.760 time.

02:02:35.320 He

02:02:35.720 had

02:02:35.920 several

02:02:36.380 and

02:02:37.220 then

02:02:37.460 he

02:02:37.600 slipped

02:02:37.920 one.

02:02:38.280 I

02:02:38.300 managed

02:02:38.900 to

02:02:39.100 slide

02:02:39.360 one

02:02:39.680 underneath

02:02:40.120 the

02:02:40.440 bed.

02:02:41.640 I

02:02:41.800 guess

02:02:42.020 during

02:02:42.240 the

02:02:42.380 point

02:02:42.560 of

02:02:42.700 time

02:02:42.940 threw

02:02:43.180 an

02:02:43.300 ordeal

02:02:43.960 he

02:02:44.140 didn't

02:02:44.300 know

02:02:44.460 where

02:02:44.580 the

02:02:44.700 knife

02:02:44.960 was.

02:02:45.600 So

02:02:45.640 I

02:02:45.760 didn't

02:02:45.880 know

02:02:46.020 if

02:02:46.180 he

02:02:46.280 felt

02:02:53.900 described

02:02:54.300 it.

02:02:56.240 Maybe

02:02:56.600 a

02:02:57.200 minute

02:02:57.480 minute

02:02:57.900 and a

02:02:58.200 half.

02:02:58.600 Then

02:02:58.800 what

02:02:58.980 did

02:02:59.440 you

02:02:59.560 do

02:02:59.700 then?

02:03:00.400 I

02:03:00.800 knew

02:03:01.000 something

02:03:01.320 was

02:03:01.660 about

02:03:02.060 to

02:03:02.240 happen

02:03:02.500 so

02:03:02.740 I

02:03:02.860 suggested

02:03:03.300 that

02:03:03.580 I

02:03:03.700 go

02:03:03.840 to

02:03:03.980 the

02:03:04.140 bathroom

02:03:04.540 I

02:03:04.800 had

02:03:04.980 to

02:03:05.080 use

02:03:05.260 the

02:03:05.400 bathroom.

02:03:06.040 What

02:03:06.300 did

02:03:06.460 he

02:03:06.500 do?

02:03:07.320 He

02:03:07.500 guided

02:03:08.040 me

02:03:08.260 to

02:03:08.400 the

02:03:08.560 bathroom.

02:03:09.460 So

02:03:09.680 when

02:03:09.840 you

02:03:09.940 say

02:03:10.120 guided

02:03:10.440 you

02:03:10.620 still

02:03:10.860 had

02:03:11.020 a

02:03:11.060 hole

02:03:11.220 of

02:03:11.320 your

02:03:11.400 handcuff?

02:03:11.900 Yes.

02:03:12.560 And

02:03:12.680 you

02:03:12.760 went

02:03:12.920 to

02:03:13.040 the

02:03:13.140 bathroom?

02:03:13.600 Right.

02:03:14.560 Did

02:03:14.780 you

02:03:14.920 urinate?

02:03:16.200 Yeah.

02:03:17.080 Were

02:03:17.180 you

02:03:17.320 able

02:03:17.660 to

02:03:17.980 utilize

02:03:18.820 your

02:03:19.240 own

02:03:19.480 zipper?

02:03:20.000 Did

02:03:20.100 he

02:03:20.260 touch

02:03:20.620 you

02:03:20.800 at

02:03:20.940 all?

02:03:21.220 Touched

02:03:21.480 me

02:03:21.600 in

02:03:21.720 no

02:03:21.900 way.

02:03:22.960 Didn't

02:03:23.220 attempt

02:03:23.540 to

02:03:23.680 look.

02:03:23.960 He

02:03:23.980 just

02:03:24.200 held

02:03:24.820 me

02:03:24.980 in

02:03:25.100 back.

02:03:25.900 So

02:03:26.040 in

02:03:26.600 other

02:03:26.780 words,

02:03:27.120 he

02:03:27.200 didn't

02:03:27.440 try

02:03:27.640 to

02:03:27.800 look

02:03:28.020 at

02:03:28.140 what

02:03:28.340 your

02:03:28.520 penis

02:03:28.880 looked

02:03:29.140 like?

02:03:29.540 Not

02:03:29.660 at

02:03:29.860 all.

02:03:30.740 So

02:03:30.900 we

02:03:31.980 can

02:03:32.120 establish

02:03:32.520 that

02:03:32.780 Dahmer

02:03:33.040 is

02:03:33.200 not

02:03:33.360 attracted

02:03:33.720 to

02:03:33.960 urine.

02:03:34.900 I

02:03:34.980 guess

02:03:36.020 that

02:03:36.300 surprisingly

02:03:38.040 did

02:03:39.400 you

02:03:39.520 think

02:03:39.880 you

02:03:40.220 were

02:03:40.360 going

02:03:40.540 to

02:03:40.620 be

02:03:40.720 the

02:03:40.920 victim

02:03:41.260 of

02:03:41.540 did

02:03:41.960 he

02:03:42.080 ask

02:03:42.400 to

02:03:42.900 engage

02:03:43.540 in

02:03:43.700 any

02:03:43.860 homosexual

02:03:44.200 acts

02:03:44.700 with

02:03:44.860 you?

02:03:45.060 None

02:03:45.280 whatsoever.

02:03:46.080 Okay,

02:03:46.480 so now

02:03:46.800 you leave

02:03:47.120 the

02:03:47.260 bathroom

02:03:47.600 and

02:03:47.760 what

02:03:47.920 happens?

02:03:49.280 Okay,

02:03:49.620 then we

02:03:49.920 go back

02:03:50.340 into

02:03:50.540 the

02:03:50.700 bedroom.

02:03:52.580 It

02:03:52.980 was

02:03:53.140 like

02:03:53.380 different

02:03:53.880 times

02:03:54.280 we

02:03:54.680 were

02:03:54.780 talking

02:03:55.040 about

02:03:55.300 him

02:03:55.500 losing

02:03:55.820 his

02:03:56.580 job

02:03:56.980 then

02:03:57.380 he

02:03:57.500 would

02:03:57.640 come

02:03:57.880 to

02:03:58.020 the

02:03:58.160 person

02:03:58.480 that

02:03:58.700 I

02:03:58.860 was

02:03:59.360 first

02:03:59.720 with

02:04:00.040 and

02:04:00.920 then

02:04:01.080 at

02:04:01.280 certain

02:04:01.520 points

02:04:01.880 he

02:04:02.020 would

02:04:02.160 change

02:04:02.640 at

02:04:03.120 first

02:04:03.400 he

02:04:03.520 talking

02:04:03.940 telling

02:04:04.240 me

02:04:04.420 about

02:04:04.740 how

02:04:05.560 people

02:04:05.860 didn't

02:04:06.100 care

02:04:06.300 for

02:04:06.520 him

02:04:06.680 and

02:04:06.780 things

02:04:07.020 of

02:04:07.160 this

02:04:07.320 nature

02:04:07.600 and

02:04:07.740 I

02:04:07.860 was

02:04:07.980 trying

02:04:08.180 to

02:04:08.320 comfort

02:04:08.600 him

02:04:08.900 letting

02:04:09.480 him

02:04:09.680 know

02:04:09.860 that

02:04:10.040 I

02:04:10.180 was

02:04:10.320 a

02:04:10.500 friend

02:04:10.820 you know

02:04:11.280 that

02:04:11.420 I

02:04:11.540 wasn't

02:04:11.820 going

02:04:11.940 to

02:04:12.020 try

02:04:12.160 to

02:04:12.300 run

02:04:12.480 away

02:04:12.700 from

02:04:12.960 him

02:04:13.160 or

02:04:13.380 nothing

02:04:13.620 like

02:04:13.920 that

02:04:14.180 you

02:04:14.480 were

02:04:14.620 being

02:04:14.800 cool

02:04:15.260 I

02:04:16.660 guess

02:04:16.920 God

02:04:17.280 you

02:04:17.420 can

02:04:17.540 say

02:04:17.720 that

02:04:17.920 because

02:04:18.080 I

02:04:18.220 had

02:04:18.380 no

02:04:18.540 control

02:04:18.920 I

02:04:19.220 was

02:04:19.360 this

02:04:19.600 all

02:04:20.480 right

02:04:20.540 so

02:04:20.720 he

02:04:20.860 knew

02:04:21.020 what

02:04:21.180 the

02:04:21.280 game

02:04:33.520 and

02:04:37.260 he

02:04:37.400 just

02:04:37.580 start

02:04:37.900 going

02:04:38.640 out

02:04:38.900 of

02:04:39.020 himself

02:04:39.380 again

02:04:39.840 going

02:04:40.500 out

02:04:40.820 of

02:04:40.960 himself

02:04:41.380 he

02:04:41.860 was

02:04:42.080 paying

02:04:42.520 me

02:04:42.660 no

02:04:42.800 attention

02:04:43.160 at

02:04:43.440 that

02:04:43.600 time

02:04:44.060 like

02:04:44.580 he

02:04:44.700 wasn't

02:04:45.000 there

02:04:45.260 he

02:04:45.680 started

02:04:45.960 chanting

02:04:46.460 again

02:04:46.940 and

02:04:47.140 just

02:04:47.380 sitting

02:04:48.120 there

02:04:48.400 you

02:04:48.560 know

02:04:48.780 and

02:04:49.340 then

02:04:49.500 I

02:04:49.640 just

02:04:49.940 for

02:04:50.140 some

02:04:50.340 reason

02:04:50.580 I

02:04:50.760 said

02:04:50.900 well

02:04:51.160 I

02:04:51.320 need

02:04:51.580 to

02:04:51.680 go

02:04:51.780 to

02:04:51.920 the

02:04:52.040 bathroom

02:04:52.380 again

02:04:52.740 and

02:04:52.900 he

02:04:53.000 didn't

02:04:53.160 follow

02:04:53.480 me

02:04:53.680 at

02:04:53.800 that

02:04:53.980 point

02:04:54.240 here

02:04:55.060 we

02:04:55.200 go

02:04:55.360 I

02:04:55.580 reached

02:04:55.860 up

02:04:56.080 I

02:04:56.220 got

02:04:56.420 up

02:04:56.620 and

02:04:56.940 then

02:04:57.100 I

02:04:57.220 hit

02:04:57.600 him

02:04:57.760 and

02:04:58.000 I

02:04:58.160 ran

02:04:58.420 out

02:04:59.360 right

02:05:00.480 did

02:05:01.000 you

02:05:01.120 have

02:05:01.340 any

02:05:01.540 other

02:05:01.900 belongings

02:05:02.580 there

02:05:03.040 I

02:05:03.180 have

02:05:03.320 my

02:05:03.460 bag

02:05:03.760 right

02:05:04.000 there

02:05:04.160 at

02:05:04.300 the

02:05:04.380 end

02:05:04.500 of

02:05:04.580 the

02:05:04.680 couch

02:05:04.920 I

02:05:05.080 sit

02:05:05.300 in

02:05:05.400 exactly

02:05:05.820 the

02:05:06.080 same

02:05:06.360 place

02:05:06.700 I

02:05:25.860 and

02:05:26.560 just

02:05:26.720 y'all

02:05:26.940 know

02:05:27.180 I

02:05:27.800 do

02:05:27.980 have

02:05:28.240 badges

02:05:28.760 that

02:05:28.960 I

02:05:29.060 give

02:05:29.240 out

02:05:29.500 that

02:05:29.820 are

02:05:30.000 based

02:05:30.740 on

02:05:30.960 federal

02:05:32.000 badges

02:05:32.340 so

02:05:32.560 shout

02:05:32.780 out

02:05:32.880 to

02:05:32.980 you

02:05:33.080 man

02:05:33.260 I

02:05:34.440 wasn't

02:05:34.740 even

02:05:34.900 there

02:05:35.180 anymore

02:05:35.580 and

02:05:36.280 when

02:05:36.500 you

02:05:36.660 saw

02:05:36.940 that

02:05:37.220 what

02:05:37.400 did

02:05:37.520 you

02:05:37.580 do

02:05:37.840 I

02:05:38.880 just

02:05:39.120 seized

02:05:39.640 the

02:05:39.840 opportunity

02:05:40.320 I

02:05:40.760 said

02:05:40.920 well

02:05:41.120 at

02:05:41.280 least

02:05:41.380 I'm

02:05:41.560 going

02:05:41.660 to

02:05:41.760 die

02:05:42.000 trying

02:05:42.340 I'm

02:05:42.500 not

02:05:42.640 just

02:05:42.820 going

02:05:42.980 to

02:05:43.080 sit

02:05:43.280 here

02:05:43.520 you

02:05:43.840 know

02:05:44.020 what

02:05:44.540 did

02:05:44.680 you

02:05:44.740 do

02:05:44.920 son

02:05:45.180 I

02:05:45.680 I

02:05:45.700 hit

02:05:45.920 him

02:05:46.100 and

02:05:46.700 I

02:05:46.860 ran

02:05:47.240 towards

02:05:47.980 the

02:05:48.160 door

02:05:48.300 and

02:05:48.400 he

02:05:48.500 like

02:05:48.780 was

02:05:48.940 right

02:05:49.200 there

02:05:49.500 tried

02:05:50.160 to

02:05:50.320 grab

02:05:50.640 me

02:05:50.900 get

02:05:51.300 me

02:05:51.420 back

02:05:51.700 in

02:05:51.880 there

02:05:52.120 and

02:05:52.840 what

02:05:53.040 happened

02:05:53.440 then

02:05:54.180 I

02:05:54.300 made

02:05:54.500 it

02:05:54.620 outside

02:05:55.120 so

02:05:55.400 he

02:05:55.540 wasn't

02:05:55.760 able

02:05:55.960 to

02:05:56.140 bring

02:05:56.380 you

02:05:56.500 back

02:05:56.720 in

02:05:56.880 he

02:05:57.600 tried

02:05:58.100 and

02:05:59.780 as

02:06:00.020 you

02:06:00.160 left

02:06:00.480 that

02:06:00.720 apartment

02:06:01.320 as

02:06:02.280 you

02:06:02.380 got

02:06:02.600 away

02:06:02.880 from

02:06:03.160 him

02:06:03.340 I'm

02:06:04.320 going

02:06:04.400 to

02:06:04.480 ask

02:06:04.760 you

02:06:04.900 again

02:06:05.420 what

02:06:06.400 impressions

02:06:06.980 were

02:06:07.300 made

02:06:07.580 on

02:06:07.760 your

02:06:07.940 mind

02:06:08.480 by

02:06:09.560 the

02:06:09.760 conduct

02:06:10.220 of

02:06:10.440 Jeffrey

02:06:10.920 Dahmer

02:06:11.580 by

02:06:12.540 the

02:06:12.700 actions

02:06:16.700 conversations

02:06:17.500 Jeffrey

02:06:18.220 Dahmer

02:06:18.660 that

02:06:19.200 you

02:06:19.360 observed

02:06:19.760 can

02:06:20.020 you

02:06:20.180 give

02:06:20.660 us

02:06:20.800 some

02:06:21.000 words

02:06:21.420 it's

02:06:22.800 like

02:06:23.020 I

02:06:23.160 told

02:06:23.340 the

02:06:23.520 policeman

02:06:23.940 that

02:06:24.440 this

02:06:24.700 freak

02:06:25.100 this

02:06:25.600 crazy

02:06:25.980 guy

02:06:26.360 was

02:06:27.080 trying

02:06:27.340 to

02:06:27.460 hurt

02:06:27.640 me

02:06:27.900 yeah

02:06:28.480 did

02:06:29.060 you

02:06:29.280 run

02:06:29.680 out

02:06:29.880 of

02:06:29.980 the

02:06:30.080 building

02:06:30.440 yes

02:06:30.860 I

02:06:31.020 did

02:06:31.260 did

02:06:31.820 you

02:06:31.960 summon

02:06:32.280 help

02:06:32.660 yes

02:06:33.400 Milwaukee

02:06:34.300 police

02:06:34.660 department

02:06:35.120 that's

02:06:35.520 correct

02:06:35.840 did

02:06:36.420 they

02:06:36.560 come

02:06:36.780 back

02:06:37.080 there

02:06:37.380 with

02:06:37.760 you

02:06:37.920 to

02:06:38.100 the

02:06:38.260 apartment

02:06:38.640 right

02:06:39.260 did

02:06:40.220 you

02:06:40.440 eventually

02:06:41.000 go

02:06:41.600 back

02:06:41.900 into

02:06:42.140 the

02:06:42.320 apartment

02:06:42.720 with

02:06:42.960 the

02:06:43.080 Milwaukee

02:06:43.380 police

02:06:46.700 was

02:06:46.820 arrested

02:06:47.240 right

02:06:47.840 you

02:06:48.560 gave

02:06:48.780 a

02:06:48.920 statement

02:06:49.180 to

02:06:49.380 the

02:06:49.500 Milwaukee

02:06:49.800 police

02:06:50.200 a few

02:06:50.500 hours

02:06:50.820 later

02:06:51.120 yeah

02:06:52.040 just

02:06:52.840 say

02:06:53.220 a few

02:06:53.580 hours

02:06:53.960 yeah

02:06:54.300 sure

02:07:06.880 so

02:07:10.720 there you

02:07:11.200 go guys

02:07:11.560 that's his

02:07:11.920 testimony right

02:07:12.580 there man

02:07:13.080 which you

02:07:13.740 know goes

02:07:14.020 to show

02:07:14.380 the craziness

02:07:15.940 of what

02:07:16.380 he experienced

02:07:17.040 on that

02:07:17.380 night

02:07:17.600 but

02:07:18.180 this guy

02:07:18.920 was critical

02:07:19.520 to catching

02:07:20.680 Jeffrey Dahmer

02:07:21.300 because what

02:07:21.920 happened was

02:07:22.580 he ran to

02:07:23.660 the police

02:07:24.180 they got him

02:07:25.220 they weren't

02:07:26.620 able to

02:07:27.120 unhandcuff

02:07:28.080 him

02:07:28.280 which

02:07:28.540 to be

02:07:29.400 honest

02:07:29.600 with you

02:07:29.820 guys

02:07:30.180 handcuffs

02:07:30.840 are pretty

02:07:31.380 universal

02:07:31.880 okay

02:07:32.500 most police

02:07:34.860 officers carry

02:07:35.400 handcuff

02:07:35.760 keys

02:07:36.000 and handcuff

02:07:36.760 keys

02:07:37.040 work on

02:07:38.140 almost any

02:07:38.660 set of

02:07:38.940 handcuffs

02:07:39.280 unless he

02:07:39.620 has some

02:07:39.920 strange

02:07:40.340 handcuffs

02:07:40.740 that like

02:07:41.620 aren't

02:07:42.680 necessarily

02:07:43.180 standard

02:07:44.080 most

02:07:45.340 handcuffs

02:07:45.780 can be

02:07:47.320 opened by

02:07:47.860 almost any

02:07:48.700 police officer

02:07:49.200 because we

02:07:49.520 have standard

02:07:49.940 handcuff

02:07:50.260 keys

02:07:50.460 so

02:07:51.100 actually

02:07:53.540 maybe I

02:07:54.020 can get

02:07:54.240 a set

02:07:54.520 right here

02:07:54.920 real quick

02:07:55.380 for you

02:07:55.560 guys

02:07:55.680 one of my

02:07:55.960 old

02:07:56.140 handcuffs

02:07:56.500 and a

02:07:56.720 key

02:07:56.900 but to

02:07:57.760 show you

02:07:58.020 guys

02:07:58.140 what I

02:07:58.360 mean

02:07:58.500 by this

02:07:58.860 but in

02:07:59.500 general

02:07:59.840 and shout

02:08:00.220 out to

02:08:00.380 Trilstein

02:08:00.640 by the

02:08:00.940 way

02:08:01.100 in the

02:08:01.280 fucking

02:08:01.520 house

02:08:01.860 he's

02:08:05.120 throwing

02:08:05.300 out

02:08:05.580 you get

02:08:06.420 a sub

02:08:06.800 you get

02:08:07.140 a gift

02:08:07.440 you get

02:08:07.760 a gift

02:08:08.020 membership

02:08:08.420 so shout

02:08:08.920 out to

02:08:09.140 you man

02:08:09.340 thank

02:08:09.540 you

02:08:09.700 so

02:08:11.100 so what

02:08:12.500 happens is

02:08:13.040 he goes

02:08:13.640 to the

02:08:13.860 police

02:08:14.120 he's running

02:08:14.640 down the

02:08:15.020 street

02:08:15.240 help me

02:08:15.680 help me

02:08:15.960 help me

02:08:16.300 and they

02:08:17.260 go ahead

02:08:17.680 and they

02:08:17.920 find him

02:08:18.360 right

02:08:18.560 and they

02:08:19.800 take him

02:08:20.280 back to

02:08:21.140 the apartment

02:08:21.660 and when they

02:08:22.360 take him

02:08:22.640 back to the

02:08:23.040 apartment

02:08:23.340 the police

02:08:23.720 say hey

02:08:24.080 where can

02:08:24.460 we get

02:08:24.680 the key

02:08:25.020 Dahmer

02:08:25.460 drunk as

02:08:26.460 hell

02:08:26.660 doesn't know

02:08:27.060 what the

02:08:27.260 hell's

02:08:27.440 going on

02:08:27.940 yeah you

02:08:28.660 could go

02:08:28.960 ahead and

02:08:29.260 look for

02:08:29.480 the key

02:08:29.720 etc

02:08:30.020 so one

02:08:30.840 of the

02:08:31.020 police

02:08:31.260 officers

02:08:31.680 goes into

02:08:32.880 his

02:08:33.240 room

02:08:34.440 right

02:08:35.380 looking

02:08:36.540 for the

02:08:37.280 key

02:08:37.540 and he

02:08:38.580 ends up

02:08:38.940 seeing

02:08:39.320 like

02:08:39.800 you know

02:08:40.480 the pictures

02:08:42.060 the Polaroids

02:08:42.760 of the dead

02:08:43.260 bodies

02:08:43.620 and the

02:08:43.880 dismembered

02:08:44.400 figures

02:08:44.620 and also

02:08:46.300 the stench

02:08:47.680 so at that

02:08:48.740 point

02:08:48.980 they take

02:08:49.800 Dahmer into

02:08:50.300 custody

02:08:50.720 and they

02:08:51.520 arrest him

02:08:52.100 okay

02:08:52.640 and that

02:08:53.380 is how

02:08:53.740 he ended

02:08:54.040 up getting

02:08:54.320 caught

02:08:54.680 right

02:08:55.440 so he

02:08:56.760 ends up

02:08:57.000 getting caught

02:08:57.420 and after

02:08:58.960 this is what

02:09:00.100 happens

02:09:00.560 when he

02:09:01.840 gets caught

02:09:02.440 when serial

02:09:07.520 killer

02:09:07.900 Jeffrey Dahmer

02:09:08.800 was arrested

02:09:09.420 in July

02:09:09.920 1991

02:09:10.800 the Associated

02:09:12.060 Press

02:09:12.480 reported

02:09:13.020 police found

02:09:13.940 11 skulls

02:09:15.060 scattered in

02:09:15.720 a file

02:09:16.080 cabinet

02:09:16.460 a closet

02:09:17.360 a refrigerator

02:09:18.300 and a freezer

02:09:19.360 and three

02:09:20.340 headless torsos

02:09:21.440 in a vat

02:09:22.080 in the man's

02:09:22.760 bedroom

02:09:23.160 hold up

02:09:23.940 wait one second

02:09:24.780 you

02:09:25.080 say what

02:09:26.460 11 skulls

02:09:29.940 scattered in a file

02:09:30.880 cabinet

02:09:31.200 a closet

02:09:31.960 a refrigerator

02:09:33.120 and a freezer

02:09:33.940 and three

02:09:34.420 headless torsos

02:09:35.160 and a vat

02:09:35.840 in the man's

02:09:36.580 bedroom

02:09:36.840 that's the

02:09:37.360 gallon drum

02:09:37.860 that they

02:09:38.120 were talking

02:09:38.560 about guys

02:09:39.160 that vat

02:09:40.400 according to

02:09:41.140 history

02:09:41.460 was a 57

02:09:42.660 gallon drum

02:09:43.760 filled with

02:09:44.340 chemicals that

02:09:45.100 were contributing

02:09:45.780 to the slow

02:09:46.580 decomposition of

02:09:47.720 the bodies

02:09:48.220 inside

02:09:48.720 there were

02:09:49.480 three heads

02:09:50.240 in the

02:09:50.500 refrigerator

02:09:51.080 alongside

02:09:51.840 evidence that

02:09:52.840 Dahmer had

02:09:53.380 eaten parts

02:09:54.160 of his

02:09:54.440 victims

02:09:54.840 when police

02:09:55.680 started emptying

02:09:56.540 the apartment

02:09:57.140 they took

02:09:57.860 out boxes

02:09:58.600 filled with

02:09:59.220 body parts

02:09:59.880 as neighbors

02:10:00.700 started to

02:10:01.500 realize what

02:10:02.160 was happening

02:10:02.720 the late

02:10:03.400 night sawing

02:10:04.100 sounds and

02:10:04.760 the smells

02:10:05.300 coming from

02:10:05.880 the apartment

02:10:06.460 became clear

02:10:07.500 Dahmer's neighbor

02:10:08.680 ella vickers

02:10:09.520 said we've been

02:10:10.820 smelling odors

02:10:11.600 for weeks but

02:10:12.460 we thought it

02:10:12.900 was a dead

02:10:13.360 animal we

02:10:14.120 had no idea

02:10:15.040 it was humans

02:10:15.960 when serial

02:10:18.000 kill

02:10:18.300 craziness guys

02:10:19.400 craziness

02:10:19.880 craziness

02:10:20.280 craziness

02:10:20.680 so

02:10:21.460 let me go

02:10:25.620 ahead and

02:10:26.120 remove

02:10:26.900 okay so

02:10:28.460 next guys

02:10:29.380 what we're

02:10:29.800 going to go

02:10:30.160 over is

02:10:30.880 let me just

02:10:31.220 look at my

02:10:31.580 little

02:10:31.920 list of

02:10:34.700 stuff here

02:10:35.060 make sure

02:10:35.420 that I got

02:10:35.900 so a quick

02:10:36.840 little recap

02:10:37.480 we're two

02:10:40.120 hours in

02:10:40.720 thank you guys

02:10:41.580 so much

02:10:41.860 you could be

02:10:42.080 anywhere else

02:10:42.480 in the world

02:10:42.740 but you're

02:10:43.020 here watching

02:10:43.480 Jeffrey Dahmer

02:10:44.700 breakdown

02:10:45.080 with your

02:10:45.740 boy Myron

02:10:46.260 aka G

02:10:47.780 so first

02:10:49.700 we went over

02:10:50.020 the intro

02:10:50.460 who Jeffrey

02:10:51.080 Dahmer was

02:10:51.740 we talked

02:10:52.320 about his

02:10:52.600 childhood

02:10:52.920 we talked

02:10:53.700 about his

02:10:54.000 parents

02:10:54.380 we talked

02:10:55.040 about his

02:10:55.340 first murder

02:10:55.920 in 1978

02:10:56.920 all the way

02:10:58.000 into 1991

02:10:58.800 up until he

02:11:00.080 was caught

02:11:00.620 we went over

02:11:02.700 each murder

02:11:03.320 how each person

02:11:04.160 was killed

02:11:04.660 and then we

02:11:06.580 also went over

02:11:07.720 you know his

02:11:08.240 failedness in

02:11:09.380 the military

02:11:09.900 etc and now

02:11:11.220 Tracy Edwards

02:11:13.400 was able to

02:11:14.580 escape and

02:11:15.860 made it out

02:11:17.100 and he was

02:11:17.720 the stimuli

02:11:18.260 for which the

02:11:18.880 police used to

02:11:19.640 go ahead and

02:11:20.200 catch Jeffrey

02:11:20.760 Dahmer and

02:11:21.640 that's how it

02:11:22.640 led to the

02:11:23.060 media spectacle

02:11:24.120 that we have

02:11:24.820 now where

02:11:26.680 he got caught

02:11:27.320 now let's go

02:11:28.060 ahead and take

02:11:28.460 a look real

02:11:28.900 quick at

02:11:29.340 Jeffrey Dahmer's

02:11:30.140 apartment okay

02:11:31.040 so this is the

02:11:32.100 apartment where

02:11:32.640 the police went

02:11:33.240 into and found

02:11:34.380 all the stuff

02:11:35.080 which is wild

02:11:35.960 all right this

02:11:36.960 is what they

02:11:37.380 found so

02:11:38.220 before police

02:11:38.820 found him

02:11:40.320 oh hold on

02:11:40.820 my bad

02:11:41.200 guys at

02:11:42.340 the stream

02:11:42.660 sorry see

02:11:43.840 I'm sharper

02:11:44.260 with this I

02:11:44.740 used to be

02:11:45.400 there reading

02:11:46.080 for 20

02:11:46.500 minutes and

02:11:46.900 not seeing

02:11:48.020 it

02:11:48.760 enlarger

02:11:50.560 all right

02:11:50.840 before police

02:11:51.680 found him

02:11:52.040 Jeffrey Dahmer

02:11:52.540 appeared to

02:11:52.880 be an

02:11:53.040 ordinary man

02:11:53.540 in his

02:11:53.800 30s who

02:11:54.180 kept to

02:11:54.500 himself that

02:11:54.960 image was

02:11:55.320 shattered on

02:11:55.700 July 22nd

02:11:56.420 1991 when

02:11:57.440 the victim

02:11:57.780 he lured to

02:11:58.260 his home

02:11:58.680 escaped and

02:11:59.280 sought help

02:11:59.780 from the

02:12:00.080 police to

02:12:00.880 the shock

02:12:01.200 of the

02:12:01.380 Milwaukee

02:12:01.700 community

02:12:02.120 and local

02:12:02.480 law

02:12:02.660 enforcement

02:12:02.940 they had

02:12:03.240 unexpectedly

02:12:03.880 stumbled upon

02:12:06.160 a killer

02:12:06.580 who had

02:12:07.180 kept himself

02:12:07.720 under the

02:12:08.400 radar with a

02:12:09.080 normal job

02:12:09.780 inside Dahmer's

02:12:10.860 apartment

02:12:11.160 the police

02:12:11.520 discovered a

02:12:12.020 box of

02:12:12.380 Polaroids

02:12:12.740 containing

02:12:13.100 depictions of

02:12:13.800 the infamous

02:12:14.160 crimes Dahmer

02:12:14.780 committed in

02:12:15.620 his fridge

02:12:16.020 and I would

02:12:16.680 show you the

02:12:17.060 pictures but

02:12:17.440 we definitely

02:12:17.920 take an L on

02:12:19.420 YouTube if I do

02:12:20.040 that

02:12:20.260 they found a

02:12:21.800 severed human

02:12:22.340 head

02:12:22.580 police arrested

02:12:23.560 Dahmer on the

02:12:24.180 spot and began

02:12:24.680 searching his

02:12:25.140 apartment

02:12:25.420 forensic scientists

02:12:26.260 and detectives

02:12:27.000 uncovered ghastly

02:12:27.900 evidence like a

02:12:28.460 drum that housed

02:12:29.040 decomposing

02:12:29.780 remains

02:12:30.940 Dahmer went on

02:12:31.840 to confess to

02:12:32.420 17 murders

02:12:33.280 the remains of

02:12:33.980 some of his

02:12:34.560 victims like his

02:12:35.400 first were never

02:12:36.020 found the only

02:12:36.640 evidence of what

02:12:37.580 happened to them

02:12:38.140 are the photos

02:12:38.720 Dahmer took as

02:12:39.420 trophies and his

02:12:40.460 60-hour confession

02:12:41.720 60 hours guys

02:12:43.140 Dahmer's stories

02:12:44.040 become fodder for

02:12:44.940 several Hollywood

02:12:45.460 movies and TV

02:12:46.460 shows and more

02:12:47.100 than a few actors

02:12:47.940 have played

02:12:48.440 Jeffrey Dahmer

02:12:49.120 the polarity

02:12:50.020 pictures and the

02:12:50.520 crime scene photos

02:12:51.220 that came out of

02:12:52.360 apartment 213 and

02:12:53.400 924 North Street

02:12:54.800 924 North 25th

02:12:56.940 Street in Milwaukee

02:12:57.480 Wisconsin relay a

02:12:58.380 grim scene of events

02:12:59.240 that shook Wisconsin

02:13:00.320 and placed Dahmer on

02:13:02.240 the list of notorious

02:13:03.100 American serial killers

02:13:03.980 so he had live

02:13:05.120 plants and fish

02:13:05.820 Milwaukee police took

02:13:07.120 a picture of Dahmer's

02:13:07.780 apartment and from

02:13:08.360 the entrance to show

02:13:09.000 that it had the

02:13:09.620 appearance of a

02:13:10.080 normalcy although

02:13:11.180 the apartment was

02:13:11.800 cluttered and dirty

02:13:12.440 Dahmer displayed live

02:13:13.400 plants a fish tank

02:13:14.300 and hung art in

02:13:15.580 addition to blaming

02:13:16.260 the foul order

02:13:16.860 emanating from his

02:13:17.540 apartment on an

02:13:18.200 unplugged freezer

02:13:19.140 Dahmer also told his

02:13:20.520 neighbors the fish

02:13:21.080 tank caused the

02:13:21.680 unpleasant smell so

02:13:22.580 this dude was over

02:13:23.160 here fucking

02:13:23.880 stop the cap

02:13:25.180 lying all over the

02:13:26.120 place to his

02:13:26.740 neighbors telling him

02:13:27.440 why it smelled he

02:13:28.600 constantly told him

02:13:29.300 like oh I was

02:13:29.880 cooking meat and I

02:13:30.500 fucked up and look

02:13:31.760 at this look look

02:13:32.360 at this uh art that

02:13:33.880 he would pick this is

02:13:35.100 what he liked guys

02:13:35.920 that Adonis type look

02:13:37.780 this was another

02:13:39.800 corner of Dahmer's

02:13:40.580 living room that

02:13:41.040 appeared ordinary at

02:13:41.880 first glance the art

02:13:42.620 hung on the walls

02:13:43.280 featuring nude men

02:13:44.180 suggested in a

02:13:46.860 suggested poses only

02:13:47.840 hints at the

02:13:48.340 darkness hidden in

02:13:49.080 this picture

02:13:49.500 Dahmer predominantly

02:13:51.340 lured and attacked

02:13:52.120 male victims

02:13:52.700 investigators later

02:13:53.780 discovered Polaroids

02:13:54.600 Dahmer took as he

02:13:55.760 subdued and killed

02:13:56.400 his victims the

02:13:57.320 Polaroids also depict

02:13:58.240 Dahmer engaged engaging

02:13:59.900 in sex acts with the

02:14:00.960 bodies although the

02:14:02.160 court later deemed

02:14:02.940 Dahmer a necrophiliac

02:14:04.420 he was found to be

02:14:05.760 legally sane because

02:14:06.600 he also had intercourse

02:14:07.960 with living men

02:14:08.740 crude plans for an

02:14:11.100 altar look at this

02:14:12.040 guys this was a

02:14:12.760 diagram that he made

02:14:13.700 that he planned to

02:14:14.620 build in the house

02:14:15.440 police found hand

02:14:16.800 drawn plans for the

02:14:17.580 shrine Dahmer plan to

02:14:18.660 build with human

02:14:19.300 remains including

02:14:19.960 notes for design

02:14:20.740 colors the fuck out

02:14:22.440 of here these

02:14:22.820 advertisers

02:14:23.280 uh and a wall plaque

02:14:27.400 with fluorescent eyes

02:14:28.940 he wanted to include a

02:14:30.140 lot of black objects

02:14:31.020 such as a black and

02:14:32.340 white carpet a black

02:14:33.740 plush chair and window

02:14:35.420 covered with black

02:14:36.720 shower curtains and a

02:14:37.740 black table he even

02:14:39.360 uh scrawled notes of

02:14:40.980 placing painted skulls

02:14:42.140 along the table look at

02:14:43.040 this black table

02:14:43.720 painted skulls

02:14:45.200 incense lamp with blue

02:14:46.980 globe eyes wall plaque

02:14:49.120 painted skeletons black

02:14:51.780 chair that he would sit

02:14:52.580 in he wanted to build a

02:14:53.380 shrine my man out here

02:14:54.480 seriously on that demon

02:14:55.860 time

02:14:56.280 Dahmer confessed that he

02:14:59.280 made his victims post for

02:15:00.180 polaroids on the black

02:15:01.340 table which he had been

02:15:02.260 planning to use as to

02:15:03.600 construct an altar look

02:15:05.880 at him either and

02:15:06.660 chloroform in the

02:15:07.580 bathroom

02:15:07.980 man historically either

02:15:12.020 chloroform have been

02:15:12.880 used to anesthetize

02:15:13.900 patients in addition to

02:15:18.680 chemicals used for

02:15:19.440 preserving remains such as

02:15:20.800 uh formula dehyde

02:15:22.560 investigators found this

02:15:23.800 chemical combo Dahmer

02:15:24.820 used to subdue his

02:15:25.640 victims openly displayed in

02:15:27.040 the bathroom Dahmer also

02:15:28.660 drugged his guest drinks

02:15:29.560 with sleeping pills

02:15:30.380 sometimes Dahmer would

02:15:31.300 wait until after a

02:15:32.200 consenting sexual change

02:15:33.260 before dosing his

02:15:34.340 lovers and you know

02:15:36.420 imagine you walk in

02:15:37.480 someone's apartment you

02:15:38.580 know you open up the

02:15:39.280 fucking cupboard then you

02:15:40.140 see this shit what uh at

02:15:42.400 that point you got to get

02:15:45.060 the hell out of there you

02:15:45.840 y'all need to fucking run

02:15:47.440 out of that bitch jump in

02:15:49.340 the car and get the hell

02:15:51.940 out of there

02:15:52.440 uh a barrel of acid

02:15:55.780 Dahmer used a barrel of

02:15:57.360 hydrochloric acid to

02:15:58.460 dissolve his victims and

02:15:59.540 preserve their skeletons he

02:16:00.580 also whitened the remains

02:16:01.480 with bleach during the

02:16:02.780 investigation of his

02:16:03.500 apartment police found

02:16:04.500 three torsos dissolving in

02:16:05.860 the five 57 gallon barrel

02:16:07.640 Dahmer later relayed the

02:16:09.380 occasion uh when his

02:16:11.220 landlord was looking around

02:16:12.220 the apartment and saw the

02:16:13.320 vat which Dahmer explained

02:16:14.580 he used to dispose of old

02:16:15.980 fish tank water bro again

02:16:18.060 once again fucking stop the

02:16:20.660 cow my man lied so much

02:16:23.600 and look at this guys this

02:16:24.900 is actually probably one of

02:16:25.820 the strangest things he had

02:16:27.120 condiments in the fridge in

02:16:28.920 an interview Dahmer confessed

02:16:30.380 to eating two people and

02:16:31.380 offered a reason for his

02:16:32.260 actions at first it was just

02:16:33.900 curiosity then it became

02:16:35.320 compulsive he said he

02:16:36.780 prepared them with sawn

02:16:37.820 pepper and used condiments

02:16:38.880 for flavor while Dahmer

02:16:40.160 maintained that he did not

02:16:41.180 commit these crimes before

02:16:42.200 he liked because he liked

02:16:43.380 torture he did admit to

02:16:45.080 police that his actions

02:16:45.820 were extreme I carried it

02:16:47.780 too far that's for sure and

02:16:50.500 then here's his bedroom I

02:16:51.960 told you guys with the

02:16:52.700 bloodstains most of the

02:16:54.740 young man Dahmer murdered

02:16:55.640 were lured into his

02:16:56.380 bedroom under the pretense

02:16:57.400 of sexual activity based on

02:16:59.120 the bloodstained wall

02:16:59.980 investigators determined

02:17:00.840 Dahmer had committed crimes

02:17:02.060 in the room when

02:17:03.060 investigators pulled the

02:17:04.000 sheets off the bed they

02:17:04.940 found that it was soaked

02:17:06.180 with blood police later

02:17:10.380 described Dahmer as

02:17:11.220 emotionless when the

02:17:12.140 perpetrator relayed the

02:17:13.080 details of his crimes

02:17:14.500 according to a Milwaukee

02:17:15.780 deputy chief Dahmer talks

02:17:17.440 about killing people just if

02:17:19.720 it's like pouring a glass

02:17:21.440 of water a drill hammer and

02:17:24.240 saws in a 60-hour confession

02:17:26.420 Dahmer revealed that his

02:17:27.980 ultimate plan was to have a

02:17:29.200 lover in a zombie state to

02:17:30.860 achieve this he drugged and

02:17:31.800 mutilated his victims while

02:17:32.920 they were still alive

02:17:33.680 doctors corroborated his

02:17:35.000 reasoning stated that

02:17:35.780 Dahmer's intent was to

02:17:36.740 satisfy a sexual need for a

02:17:38.960 not fully cooperative partner

02:17:40.300 Dahmer later rationalized that

02:17:41.920 he had time restrictions with

02:17:43.620 his six-day work week and

02:17:45.040 wasn't able to search for a

02:17:46.100 totally compliant lover like

02:17:47.780 he liked the one he desired

02:17:49.220 then he had the storage

02:17:50.900 freezer Pamela Bass who

02:17:52.700 lived across the hall from

02:17:53.740 Dahmer described the time

02:17:54.800 she assisted her neighbor in

02:17:56.300 cleaning his apartment to

02:17:57.140 avoid eviction there has been

02:17:58.920 numerous complaints about the

02:18:00.540 smell coming from 213

02:18:01.760 Bass maintained that Dahmer

02:18:04.540 attributed the odor to an

02:18:05.660 unplugged freezer which

02:18:07.280 contained assorted meats his

02:18:08.560 grandmother had given him

02:18:09.520 which we all know

02:18:10.420 stop the cow

02:18:11.860 in actuality stored dismembered

02:18:15.360 body parts in the small

02:18:16.320 stand-up unit

02:18:16.960 Dahmer

02:18:18.280 uh Dahmer planned to save the

02:18:20.240 pieces for his altar and to

02:18:22.160 thaw and cook on occasion

02:18:23.820 and yep that's a fucking L

02:18:26.780 right there my friends

02:18:28.380 so we talked about the house

02:18:34.720 um okay so let's go ahead guys

02:18:37.300 and get into this crazy guy's

02:18:39.160 mind um as you guys know he

02:18:41.940 was oh and then also this is

02:18:43.880 the apartment complex by the

02:18:45.020 way guys if I can get it where

02:18:46.680 the hell is it okay this is it

02:18:48.880 today this is the apartment

02:18:50.280 complex today guys it no longer

02:18:52.280 exists it was knocked down

02:18:54.260 after the the murders um can

02:18:58.300 you pull up the uh old

02:18:59.400 apartment complex what it look

02:19:00.400 like real quick for me uh

02:19:01.500 Autumn and I'll share it on

02:19:02.900 screen for the people but this

02:19:04.580 is the lot today okay guys it's

02:19:06.780 gone all right this is where it

02:19:08.500 used to stand it used to be um

02:19:10.580 you go up this driveway here

02:19:12.400 and but the front the front of

02:19:14.460 it basically faced right here

02:19:15.600 and I'm going to pull up what it

02:19:17.120 used to look like before but it

02:19:18.540 no longer exists guys uh so what

02:19:22.760 I'm going to do guys so I'm going

02:19:24.380 to go ahead and play the inside

02:19:25.620 edition interview from February of

02:19:28.680 1993 uh do we have uh let me know

02:19:32.600 when you have it by the way um the

02:19:34.540 Oxford apartments oh okay I think

02:19:37.060 you I see that you have it um it

02:19:40.080 is yeah go ahead and click that see

02:19:42.960 the third second row third picture

02:19:44.680 there we go that's it enlarge it

02:19:48.000 real fast if you can that is the

02:19:50.560 that's that's what it used to look

02:19:51.860 like before guys um scroll up a bit

02:19:55.320 maybe you can click and enlarge that

02:19:56.600 picture that one right there yep

02:19:59.320 that's that's the that's what the

02:20:02.020 apartment look like before guys

02:20:03.340 versus what it looks like now so

02:20:06.120 before sorry before after

02:20:10.860 right you can see the little driveway

02:20:15.060 up going this way still there today

02:20:17.980 right but they obviously fenced this

02:20:19.880 in so yeah okay so let's go ahead and

02:20:26.480 go to the um the inside edition

02:20:30.320 interview all right from 1993

02:20:33.100 he picked up i had uh these

02:20:39.680 obsessive uh desires so she asked him

02:20:42.580 about what was your intention with the

02:20:44.080 guys that you picked up

02:20:44.960 and also i want you guys to pay

02:20:47.780 attention to his voice and how he

02:20:48.940 speaks

02:20:49.240 the actor uh in the netflix series did a

02:20:51.780 really good job of imitating him

02:20:53.780 and and uh thoughts wanting to

02:20:57.080 control them to uh

02:20:59.780 and also guys please do me a favor

02:21:03.340 like the video subscribe to the

02:21:05.200 channel if this is your first time

02:21:06.300 here i'm happy to be back shout out

02:21:08.460 to auto for helping me out behind the

02:21:09.680 scenes and uh let's keep going i don't

02:21:12.420 know how to put it uh possess them

02:21:15.060 permanently and that's why you killed

02:21:16.940 them right right not because i was

02:21:20.000 angry with them not because i hated

02:21:21.600 them but because i wanted to keep them

02:21:25.260 with me and uh as my obsession grew

02:21:29.300 uh i was saving body parts such as

02:21:35.220 skulls and skeletons jeffrey dahmer is

02:21:40.160 recalling his monstrous past almost two

02:21:43.340 years ago in this little apartment

02:21:45.320 big mo goes nothing like a good piece

02:21:49.820 of grilled head shoulders knees and

02:21:51.280 toes with some hot sauce on my cheat

02:21:53.080 day

02:21:53.320 oh man y'all are hilarious man this

02:21:59.940 shit is you guys are fucking fucking

02:22:01.980 dicks it's hilarious though and guys we

02:22:04.660 got 1.8k likes man do me a solid man

02:22:06.820 get me to at least 2500 because i'll

02:22:09.620 tell you guys this it took me hours of

02:22:12.220 preparation for this pod all right man

02:22:15.640 this is probably gonna be one of the

02:22:16.840 most thorough breakdowns on youtube

02:22:18.880 uh so go ahead and like the goddamn

02:22:20.680 video

02:22:21.760 milwaukee police discovered the grisly

02:22:24.680 remnants of one of the most horrible

02:22:26.600 crime sprees in american history

02:22:29.160 jeffrey dahmer an unassuming chocolate

02:22:31.520 factory worker would eventually confess

02:22:34.120 that he had seduced murdered and

02:22:36.320 dismembered 17 young men he even ate some

02:22:39.880 of his victims body parts instantly

02:22:43.580 became the center of worldwide media

02:22:46.140 attention a serial killer unmasked there

02:22:51.080 were protests and press conferences in

02:22:53.180 milwaukee as people tried to understand how

02:22:55.860 this could have happened in their midst

02:22:58.020 how did jeffrey dahmer get away with

02:23:00.740 murder after murder for 13 years and we

02:23:04.040 broke that down a little bit how we how we

02:23:05.880 were able to kind of figure that out you

02:23:07.760 know he attacked low people of lower

02:23:09.980 socioeconomic status they were gay you

02:23:12.780 know a lot of gay people live double

02:23:13.920 lives etc didn't want to be seen uh you

02:23:16.500 know hiv and aids was was prevalent

02:23:18.860 people were dying from it so he almost

02:23:21.360 had like the perfect storm to be able to

02:23:24.080 commit these crimes and on top of that he

02:23:25.620 was like recruiting random people that he

02:23:27.200 didn't necessarily know to come back to

02:23:28.900 his place to take pictures so it would be

02:23:30.840 very difficult for them to track it back to

02:23:32.420 him how did a boy born into a hard-working

02:23:35.640 middle-class family turn into the worst

02:23:38.660 kind of monster imaginable in this

02:23:41.340 exclusive interview we put those my man

02:23:43.820 needs to hit the gym he stopped working

02:23:45.480 out when he hit the when he went to

02:23:46.700 prison i guess those questions to jeffrey

02:23:49.060 dahmer himself we met with him at the

02:23:51.560 maximum security prison where he is serving

02:23:53.920 his sentence of 999 years for the first

02:23:57.700 time he talks about his crimes and gives

02:24:01.140 us a chilling look inside the mind of a

02:24:03.940 serial killer it's a process it doesn't

02:24:07.460 happen overnight uh when you uh depersonalize

02:24:12.500 another person and view them as just an

02:24:15.620 object uh an object for pleasure instead of

02:24:19.140 a living breathing human being uh it it seems to

02:24:26.740 make it easier to uh do things you

02:24:31.700 shouldn't do the reason why jeffrey

02:24:34.180 dahmer was able to get away with his

02:24:36.020 crimes was because of just what you are

02:24:38.500 seeing here jeffrey dahmer isn't say

02:24:41.620 what you will but jeffrey had the best

02:24:43.220 the best text of the name of it bbq bro

02:24:45.220 you guys y'all got no chill in the

02:24:48.260 chat man intelligent and articulate

02:24:52.740 that is what makes him so frightening

02:24:54.980 but if you listen carefully to his words

02:24:57.300 throughout this interview you realize it

02:24:59.940 is a thin disguise you do sound though like

02:25:03.460 the kind of person who could have said to

02:25:05.140 himself this is wrong i must stop

02:25:09.940 i always knew that that it was wrong but uh

02:25:14.900 hey guys he didn't wear glasses in the

02:25:16.420 trial because he didn't want to have to

02:25:18.100 face his his victims

02:25:20.420 if you guys notice he didn't really wear the

02:25:21.860 glasses in the trial at all

02:25:25.540 after the the first the first uh killing was not planned

02:25:32.180 i was uh coming back from the shopping mall back in 78

02:25:37.780 i've had uh fantasies about picking up a hitchhiker

02:25:42.660 and uh taking him back to the house and shout out to my guy

02:25:46.500 fucking end of sentence

02:25:49.380 just finished the netflix series yo guys go check out his youtube channel

02:25:52.100 man he does crime uh breakdowns

02:25:55.060 with awesome narration uh when it comes to like hip-hop

02:25:58.420 current events etc go subscribe to his youtube channel good friend of the podcast

02:26:02.180 good ass fucking guy uh pause and uh yeah go check him out man

02:26:07.540 uh i've actually used i use this content on my last episode that i talked about uh

02:26:11.380 uh wine w uh not wine w ysl excuse me um with the guy that was you know

02:26:16.740 providing information and snitching and a lot of that uh came from end of

02:26:19.860 sentence so shout out to 1090 jake man shout out to 1090 jake

02:26:27.460 having complete control and dominance over him

02:26:31.220 the hitchhiker's name was stephen hicks he was just 18.

02:26:35.620 jeffrey dahmer took him to his parents house there he strangled him with a barbell

02:26:40.740 he dismembered the body and hid it in a drain pipe

02:26:43.940 it was jeffrey dahmer who gave those details to the police

02:26:47.700 in his confession and that's the old home by the way two guys that was shown before

02:26:52.420 no one no one had a clue as to what was happening for for over a decade

02:26:57.940 during that time jeffrey dahmer joined the army and was sent to germany

02:27:02.100 he was eventually discharged for a drinking problem and returned to ohio

02:27:06.660 my man was getting lit nine years after stephen hicks murder the killing began again

02:27:13.540 what happened to you in the nine years in between that you were able to stop

02:27:18.820 that you were able to control yourself just wasn't an opportunity to uh fully express what i wanted to

02:27:27.060 to do there was just not the up the physical opportunity to do it then

02:27:30.980 and i started when i moved to milwaukee in 81

02:27:39.380 i started reading pornography going to the bookstores

02:27:46.660 eventually that led to

02:27:50.260 frequenting the gay bars and then i

02:27:55.540 one time i brought this young man back to the hotel room the ambassador hotel

02:28:01.700 uh was just planning on drugging him and that was uh steven tomoy guys which we talked about

02:28:06.340 which was his second um victim and uh spending the night with him i had no intention of hurting him

02:28:13.780 when i woke up in the morning he uh had a broken rib here i was heavily bruised apparently i had uh

02:28:22.100 beaten him to death with my fists and you have no memory i have no memory of it but that's what started

02:28:27.540 the whole spree all over again dahmer says he snuck the corpse of his victim steven toomey out of his

02:28:34.100 hotel room in a suitcase then he took it to his grandmother's house where he cut up the body and put

02:28:40.260 it in plastic garbage bags when you killed these men

02:28:44.580 afterwards were you repulsed were you upset no it at the time uh

02:28:51.780 it was it was almost addictive it was almost uh yeah and for all you young guys out there like

02:28:58.180 about reading pornography wondering like what the hell that's how people got off in the 90s man like

02:29:02.340 you guys gotta remember that like internet and internet pornography was not a thing back in the

02:29:06.020 90s dudes used to have like hustler magazines and playboys and all this other stuff that's how you

02:29:09.940 got your porn fix or you would get like the vcrs you'd have to go to like a porn shop you know you

02:29:14.420 have a trench coat you walk in there nobody know who the hell you are you just be like oh i don't

02:29:18.260 want nobody to know who i am you know you go in there just like um yeah i'm here to get the uh the

02:29:22.580 prawns excuse me what would you say um what i'm here to get the prawns what you know you gotta hide

02:29:30.100 yourself back then man like people would be doing whatever they can to get the porn but you didn't

02:29:36.100 have the same anonymity and privacy that you have nowadays okay but yeah people walk in a

02:29:40.100 place like this you don't say it turned into a scorpion in this trying to get some

02:29:45.220 goddamn porn so anyway carrying on a surge of energy uh i wouldn't have to uh worry about um

02:30:02.420 any of their needs or anything i just had complete control of the situation but jeffrey dahmer was out

02:30:07.940 of control the urge to kill had overpowered him as police later learned he wasn't satisfied with his

02:30:14.020 victims death he wanted more why did you photograph them it was my way of remembering

02:30:22.820 and the sentence is that tonight jay goes there's still 90 2000 p magazines in the florida prisons

02:30:32.500 yeah i'm dead bro i didn't i didn't know that

02:30:36.420 bitches got fucking bangs and shit like that

02:30:40.740 oh man uh their appearance their physical beauty

02:30:46.820 uh i also wanted to keep

02:30:52.260 something if i couldn't keep them there with me whole i at least i actually i did watch the

02:30:57.940 conversation tapes with his lawyer wendy um autumn was watching him as well uh yeah man i mean he he

02:31:03.860 confessed to a lot of crazy shit in there he really did um but here's the thing netflix left out a lot

02:31:08.980 though i ain't got a lot of y'all like netflix left a lot because they had to keep it like somewhat

02:31:12.100 palatable and like you know watchable for people but if people really knew like all the crazy

02:31:16.660 shit jeffrey dahmer did like they would just say like oh yeah he would have sexual bodies but like

02:31:21.220 they didn't like talk about the details like for real or obviously show it for obvious reasons but um

02:31:26.180 what are your thoughts on that because you were watching the tape videos what are your thoughts on that autumn

02:31:29.540 uh super disturbing but uh one thing the uh lady said that was interviewing him is like at times

02:31:37.300 she felt like his mom or his sister like um he was just so like welcoming like in the interview

02:31:45.860 so she felt like close to him um so it just shows that he's like a real person

02:31:52.340 um or seems like one and then he has this crazy side

02:31:55.220 fair enough yeah and i think some of the best serial killers always have this uh this ability

02:32:02.500 to acclimate to society and then like turn on the craziness when they need to which you know

02:32:07.860 damra was obviously able to do that's why people were so believable or he was so believable he was

02:32:11.940 able to evade getting caught by the police so many times felt that i could keep their skeletons and

02:32:17.940 yes he did have groupies when he was in prison guys and uh i even went so far as planning on uh

02:32:25.620 setting up an altar with uh the uh 10 different uh skulls and skeletons and what was the purpose of

02:32:33.460 the altar going to be uh as a sort of uh memorial uh a point where i could

02:32:45.300 i don't know it's it's it's so bizarre and strange it's hard to describe a place where i could collect my

02:32:51.380 thoughts um big mo in the chat if jeffrey dahmer caught me he would have had enough food for a

02:32:59.220 year he needed gallons of ranch dressing he wouldn't take you though bro you too fat for that

02:33:05.300 nigga man he had a specific body type you wanted mo so too bad he would have just probably you and

02:33:09.700 let you go pause and pause pause session when the bodies were still in your apartment

02:33:16.500 there was no time when you would see them and say this is grotesque what have i done there were times

02:33:28.100 there were times but the compulsive obsession with uh doing what i was doing overpowered

02:33:36.180 any feelings of revulsion this man with a quiet almost shy demeanor became a master manipulator

02:33:42.580 who was able to lure strangers he met at gay bars to his apartment he was even able to con the police

02:33:48.740 into returning a 14 year old boy to him after neighbors called 911 upset that the child was in

02:33:55.460 the street naked and bleeding dahmer convinced the police that he and the boy were simply having a

02:34:01.220 a lover's quarrel intoxicated uh boyfriend of another boyfriend how old was this child it wasn't a

02:34:10.500 child it was an adult after the police left jeffrey dahmer murdered that boy conorac synthesis phone

02:34:17.220 this man says he had a near fatal encounter with jeffrey dahmer you want to take some pictures of my

02:34:23.220 back he hit me with a rubber hammer on my neck he was lucky to escape because by then the killing

02:34:30.340 had become almost routine before you went out to pick up a man was there any kind of ritual you went

02:34:37.380 through i go to the night clubs uh drink watch the uh the strip tea shows and if i didn't meet anyone at

02:34:48.180 the bars i'd go to the bath clubs and meet meet someone there offer them money and we'd go back to the

02:34:58.260 apartment um have a few drinks i'd have the uh the uh sleeping pill mixture already prepared

02:35:09.220 see how he can like speak about this so calmly guys you know what i mean like the fact that he can like

02:35:16.980 the fact that he could recall it with such detail and speak about it so calmly and not necessarily care

02:35:21.620 too much it goes to show you a lot like what he wanted overrode morals right uh like he knows what

02:35:30.020 he did was wrong but he was like fuck it like yo this is what i want to do and the thing with killing

02:35:34.580 a lot of times with these serial killers is the more you do it the easier it becomes so

02:35:41.300 and and you guys if you guys remember when we're going through the murders that's why i wanted to go

02:35:44.420 through all 17 murders you guys can see how more overt how much more reckless he becomes how he just

02:35:51.460 starts sometimes if if he didn't like something he would just kill the guy off rip versus like you

02:35:55.540 know doing his typical methodical uh drug strangulation technique so um and he started to get sloppy that's

02:36:02.740 why that guy was able to get away you know my man out here like fucking chanting by himself gets punched

02:36:07.220 in the face luckily by tracy and he's able to escape person would drink it fall asleep

02:36:11.860 and uh that's when they would be strangled watching the movie exorcist three was also part of his

02:36:21.060 ritual it put this movie trash but anyway that's a whole other thing him in the mood for murder i felt

02:36:28.660 so hopelessly uh evil and perverted that uh

02:36:33.940 uh that i i actually derived a sort of pleasure from watching that tape did you like feeling evil no

02:36:45.620 no i didn't but uh i tried to overcome the thoughts and it worked for a while but eventually i gave in

02:36:56.020 while jeffrey dahmer may say things today that make it seem like he understands what went on in his mind

02:37:02.420 he does not all he can do is tell you what happened but he cannot stop whatever it is

02:37:08.820 that drove him to kill in the first place do you still feel those same urges do you still feel

02:37:16.180 that compulsion that obsession uh now this is a very interesting answer that he's about to give here

02:37:21.780 and by the way guys i'm looking right now we got 2500 y'all plus almost 2600 y'all guys in here

02:37:27.140 do me a quick favor like the goddamn video we should have 2500 likes i hate asking for likes

02:37:32.420 y'all don't gotta donate a dollar to the show you don't have to do anything all i ask is that

02:37:36.580 you number one like the video subscribe to the channel don't be a ninja watcher don't be one of

02:37:41.220 these weirdos that sits there with a hood on thinking yo i'm just gonna like watch the content

02:37:46.740 and not ever like like anything just like the video man it ain't that hard all right

02:37:53.940 i wish i could say that uh it just left completely but uh no there are times when i still do still do

02:38:02.500 have uh the old compulsions jeffrey dahmer says as time went on his mind became more and more warped

02:38:08.820 and yet he was clever enough to continue to elude police and lure young men to his apartment

02:38:14.260 and that was a part of the reason why they got him uh made they made him sane because they showed

02:38:19.300 that he took steps to essentially evade detection which means you were not that crazy should warn you

02:38:26.660 the details are very graphic all right it's about to get crazy in here guys so viewer discretion is

02:38:31.460 advised from this point forward so be ready like the video let me hit some of these shots real quick

02:38:38.100 uh garage man teddy ten bucks goes did they allow this freak visitation if so you think they were on

02:38:42.260 uh a watch list or some kind of contact by law enforcement or feds uh yes they did allow him

02:38:46.660 visitation his father visited him once a month he made that 11 hour drive to go see him uh so yeah no

02:38:52.260 he definitely did uh get visitation and he got a lot of fan mail guys uh jeffrey dahmer made around

02:38:57.140 ten thousand dollars in the uh you know year and a half for two years he was in prison uh from fans uh

02:39:05.540 el leon goes uh jeffrey dahmer like me literally and figuratively you guys are hilarious

02:39:10.340 and then we got let's see here what else what else what else uh we got uh if jeffrey dahmer caught me

02:39:16.980 okay we got that one shout out to you big motherfucking being a clown in here i started

02:39:20.980 having these obsessive thoughts when i was about uh 15 and 16 and they got worse and worse

02:39:28.740 what were your fantasies about uh they were sexual fantasies of control power uh complete dominance

02:39:38.420 they became reality and the reason why guys if you really think about it why he had such an infatuation

02:39:43.780 with being dominant and being in control is that he didn't really have control of his life the man was

02:39:49.540 an alcoholic he failed at everything he did he couldn't stay in the military he couldn't stay in

02:39:54.740 college he couldn't keep a job he uh couldn't get people to stay with him long term he couldn't

02:40:00.660 attract a girl could barely attract a guy so uh his mom left him his father left him he was in a home

02:40:08.660 for several months on end his senior year of high school he couldn't land friends so he didn't have

02:40:14.420 control of his own life right so since he didn't have control of his own life he had to control other

02:40:21.540 people's lives and take it away that's how he felt control finally again all right so um a lot of the

02:40:28.260 times alcoholics drink alcohol to escape reality because they're not in control of reality okay so

02:40:35.140 that's a very important note that you guys need to need to make when it comes to jeffrey dahmer and

02:40:39.460 why he was so obsessed with control

02:40:45.140 and dhv uh dan h goes the last victim who escaped actually killed someone himself later on in life

02:40:50.420 crazy man read on him all right thank you i didn't know that bro pleasure in that fantasy

02:40:55.460 there was excitement uh fear pleasure all mixed together jeffrey dahmer fulfilled his fantasies

02:41:03.540 by murdering and dismembering 17 young men in time rest in peace to all these guys horrible

02:41:11.140 his desires became more extreme his deeds more grotesque listen to him talk about the most

02:41:17.780 unnatural things in the most matter of fact of ways that's when you realize that none of it has touched

02:41:24.580 him i was uh branching out that's when the cannibalism started eating of the heart and uh the arm muscle

02:41:34.660 it was a way of uh making me feel that uh they were a part of me

02:41:40.100 that for at first it was just curiosity and then it became compulsive then i tried to uh

02:41:50.020 keep the person alive by inducing a zombie-like state

02:41:59.060 by uh injecting

02:42:00.420 uh first uh dilute acid solution into their brain or uh hot water and uh it never did completely work

02:42:12.580 could someone like you be stopped could you be helped no i i was i was dead set on on going with

02:42:22.580 this compulsion that was the only thing that gave me any uh any satisfaction he became so warped by

02:42:31.460 his evil impulses that he even took a and if you look at it man like there were a lot of women that

02:42:36.820 found this guy attractive you know i mean a lot of people in the gay community found him attractive as

02:42:40.100 well pause like he didn't have to do this you know but his extreme need to be controlling wanting

02:42:46.100 a sex slave and wanting people near him all the time and you know the extreme abandonment issues

02:42:50.580 surfaced in the most in the worst of ways victims head with him to work at the ambrosia chocolate factory

02:42:58.980 i kept the uh the mummified uh head and skull of one of the victims in a carrying case in my locker at work

02:43:10.260 were you almost flaunting it yes but that's how strong the compulsion was that's how

02:43:15.700 bizarre the desire was i wanted to keep something of of the person with me jeffrey dahmer exhibited some

02:43:24.260 disturbing behavior early on he began drinking heavily as a teenager dropped out of college

02:43:30.500 was arrested for indecent exposure disorderly conduct and fondling a 13 year old boy tragically

02:43:37.220 holy man what the one of his murder victims would be that boy's brother do you know what started it

02:43:49.220 was there any kind of incident that you can remember to this day i don't know what started it and uh the

02:43:55.540 person to blame is sitting right across from you that's the only person not uh parents not society not

02:44:02.500 pornography i mean those are just excuses his macabre 13-year crime spray finally ended when this

02:44:09.940 man tracy edwards brought the police to the infamous apartment like the others he had gone there with the

02:44:16.100 promise of money he was listening to my heart because at a point he told me he was going to eat

02:44:20.500 my heart at that point i hit him and i ran what was the turning point for you that made you suddenly

02:44:27.060 realize that you had done something terribly wrong something you should be sorry for it was uh the

02:44:32.980 night of the arrest i have no memory of what happened uh during the six hours before uh the last

02:44:42.420 victim ran out of the apartment yeah he was drunk as hell which is what led to him like given

02:44:47.940 you know consent or whatever he didn't really know what the hell was going on which you know you can

02:44:51.860 argue in court like hey my client wasn't of sound mind and he gave the police consent but

02:44:56.340 i mean at that point like it was probably they would have probably been able to get a warrant to

02:45:01.220 get in there regardless but you know that's a whole other argument a knock on the door and the

02:45:06.100 police were there uh with with the last victim uh they asked me where the key was to the handcuffs

02:45:16.500 i was my mind was in a haze i sort of pointed to the bedroom and that's where they uh found the

02:45:24.260 pictures and they stupid old cuff him handcuffed and uh it it was just the realization that there was no

02:45:34.660 point in trying to hide hide uh my actions anymore the the best route was to help help the police identify

02:45:45.540 all the victims and just make a complete confession when it was revealed that most of the victims were

02:45:52.180 black or homosexual people in milwaukee were incensed many felt that was why he went after them and why

02:45:59.060 the police didn't seem to care when their families reported them missing ten of your 17 victims were

02:46:05.780 black were they racially motivated it was not racially motivated it was not a sexual preference it was

02:46:12.660 just to find an obsession with uh the best looking young man i could find while you just heard him

02:46:21.060 say that his sexual preference had nothing to do with the killings no he has not come to terms with

02:46:26.260 his homosexuality never understood it there was no use trying to fight it because i i couldn't rid myself

02:46:32.180 of it it was his father also he had a tough time coming out to his dad his dad never accepted it guys so

02:46:38.420 that's another reason too why he was so big on like containing it and not necessarily letting it out

02:46:43.540 so that also was uh a plan this as well the repressed sexuality it was too powerful and persistent

02:46:50.980 do you dislike it yes it's caused a lot of problems for me a lot of conflicts and uh

02:46:59.700 unanswered questions yo someone in the chat got me dead someone said uh he takes more accountability

02:47:05.460 than the girls that come on the show the conflicts remain with him and so do his compulsions

02:47:14.660 but in prison he finally cannot act on his savage desires if you were out on the street now

02:47:23.940 probably if this hadn't happened there's no doubt i probably would be i can't think of anything that

02:47:29.780 would have stopped me all right yeah man yeah fucking i ain't gonna lie the chat today was awesome

02:47:38.500 crazy uh it was us a fucking deal with time you guys are fucking hilarious man holy

02:47:42.980 oh man all right so um so obviously uh we're gonna go ahead and get into what ended jeffrey dommer

02:47:59.540 guys um so where are we at here um so what happened lastly was jeffrey dommer was killed guys in

02:48:08.260 prison okay he was killed by this dude right here if i can find him you know what here he is christopher

02:48:17.940 all right um share screen with y'all real fast

02:48:20.420 um so um he was killed by this guy christopher j scarver senior born july 6 1969 american criminal

02:48:27.940 known for the fatal assault on jeffrey dommer serial killer and jesse anderson a murderer at the columbia

02:48:32.100 correctional institute institution 1994 scarver used a 20-inch uh metal bar which he had removed from

02:48:37.700 a piece of exercise equipment in the prison weight room to beat and fatally wound dommer and anderson

02:48:41.620 scarver sentences two further life sentences for the killings and ironically enough he killed dommer the

02:48:47.620 same way darmer killed his first victim steven hicks with a dumbbell a weight a weight training

02:48:53.300 uh a piece of weight training equipment which is crazy how the world comes full circle and just

02:48:58.260 so y'all know this guy suffered from mental illness as well he claimed that you know god had told him to

02:49:02.740 do it uh so that's why he had done it and i got a video on this as well here is the guy that killed

02:49:08.820 jeffrey dommer was awaiting trial in a wisconsin jail accused of killing 27 year old job trainer steven

02:49:13.940 lowman it was then that the arrest of a 31 year old milwaukee man was announced he had the remains

02:49:18.580 of 11 men and boys in his apartment that man later confessed to killing a total of 17 men and boys in

02:49:24.020 ohio and wisconsin he also confessed that he would sometimes mutilate and cannibalize his victims

02:49:28.900 scarver came to know serial killer jeffrey dommer much like the rest of america via the news

02:49:33.700 but scarver got to see more of dommer than most people both men were convicted murderers serving out

02:49:37.940 life sentences together in the columbia correctional institution outside of madison although scarver

02:49:42.420 was also a convicted murderer he couldn't stomach the things he heard dahmer had done scarver later

02:49:47.220 told the new york post that dahmer would antagonize inmates by making food look like severed body parts

02:49:51.860 and leave them for people to find scarver said he kept his distance from dahmer until 1994.

02:49:57.380 scarver claims when the two were left alone in the prison gym he bludgeoned dahmer to death with a

02:50:01.620 metal rod he also killed another inmate at the same time named jesse anderson according to what

02:50:06.420 scarver told the new york post anderson and dahmer antagonized him so he killed them scarver initially

02:50:11.540 pleaded not guilty of the prison murders claiming insanity at his first court appearance scarver

02:50:16.900 entered the courtroom singing rain or sky sharing your dreams your heart and your mind buddy what

02:50:28.020 the what he was he was excited he was happy later changed his plea to no contest he did so in exchange

02:50:37.780 for being moved to a federal prison instead of serving out his life sentences in a state penitentiary

02:50:42.020 he was sentenced to two consecutive life sentences on top of the first one the insanity plea wasn't out

02:50:46.820 of the blue when scarver was awaiting trial for killing loman in 1992 he told the psychiatrist that

02:50:51.940 voices had urged him to commit that murder specifically he said it was the voices of a family

02:50:56.500 a mom and a dad a boy and a little girl scarver shot loman in the head four times then made a manager

02:51:02.020 write him a check for three thousand dollars he also stole the manager's credit card scarver went to his

02:51:06.820 girlfriend's home where hours later police found him sitting on the stoop of her apartment he had

02:51:11.060 the check the credit card and the gun he used in the murder in his pocket scarver told the psychologist

02:51:15.620 he'd never been in trouble with the law or even been in a fight he said the voices of the family told

02:51:20.100 him everything was going to be all right and it was meant to happen like this the new york times reported

02:51:24.500 that he said the voices also told him quote i'm the chosen one scarver has been in jail or prison

02:51:29.860 since he was about 20 years old according to his webpage he was placed in solitary confinement for 18 years

02:51:35.140 after killing jeffrey dahmer and jesse anderson but he quote earned his way out and into a medium

02:51:39.860 security prison when he was initially arrested for murder in 1990 his girlfriend was pregnant and

02:51:45.060 gave birth after scarver was sentenced the child was named chris after his father and the two maintained

02:51:50.020 a relationship three letters according to what his son told cnn in 2014 during his time behind bars

02:51:55.620 scarver became a poet and wrote a book titled the child left behind poetry of christopher j scarver

02:52:00.820 scarver also writes short stories musical compositions songs and creates art he's proactive

02:52:05.860 in writing prison policy proposals and initiated the american prisoner repatriation act scarver also

02:52:11.220 tries to encourage his son and part of a letter the younger chris shared with cnn scarver wrote

02:52:15.940 tough times don't last tough people do and you are the toughest kid i know check out one of our newest

02:52:21.460 videos right here plus even more grunge videos yeah so i'm gonna go ahead and uh see where he's at

02:52:28.100 guys i don't know if he's actually they're saying he's in the federal system i'll go ahead and share

02:52:32.260 a screen with y'all real quick so you guys can see what i'm looking at here because i looked in the car

02:52:38.260 someone said when i researched it they said that he might have been in the uh in the colorado system

02:52:45.060 but i don't know about that so uh let's see here offender information let's see here see i hate the state

02:52:53.220 records because it's always a pain in the ass to find someone um is this it maybe oh my god this is

02:53:02.900 so trash okay you know what they said federal so let's do this first bop.gov right inmates find an

02:53:13.460 inmate let's see if he's actually in federal custody christopher

02:53:22.100 and then scarver

02:53:26.740 black oh oh i'm retarded

02:53:30.180 mail bam let's see hmm is this him wait not in bop custody interesting so hmm this is very

02:53:48.820 strange if this is actually him let's see if this is actually him i'm gonna move this out the way

02:53:54.180 okay let's see if the birthdays match so he was born july 6 1969 uh 69 would that be make him 53 years

02:54:05.540 old someone someone with the math help me out here autumn you got to think fast uh yes it would it

02:54:11.780 would yes okay and is his middle name jay christopher j scar yeah senior so yeah this is probably him but

02:54:20.900 why this is strange why it says not in bop custody and what would the federal charge be that they would

02:54:27.060 charge him with so i would have to uh research this a little bit to let y'all know because um

02:54:35.540 let's see here do they have it he's going to release a tell-all book i don't think it came out though

02:54:41.380 uh later federal district court judge barbert ordered scarver and about three dozen other seriously

02:54:45.140 mental illness to be located from the wisconsin facility scarver was uh in colorado

02:54:50.500 so he's there now centennial correctional facility in colorado

02:54:56.740 okay so so it says here okay in 2004 scarver brought a federal civil rights lawsuit uh suit

02:55:02.980 against officials of the wisconsin secure program facility in which he argued that he had been

02:55:06.660 subjected to cruel and unusual punishment contrary to his constitutional rights scarver stated that he

02:55:10.900 spent 16 years in solitary confinement as a result of the damer killing a district judge dismissed the

02:55:15.300 suit against several of the defendants and ruled that the actions of the remaining officials could not

02:55:19.300 be considered unlawful scarver unsuccessfully appealed the decision in 2006 later federal

02:55:24.500 district court judge barbara crab ordered that scarver and about three dozen other seriously

02:55:28.180 mentally ill inmates be relocated from the wisconsin facility scarver was eventually relocated to the

02:55:32.420 centennial correctional facility in colorado okay so let's click that real quick is a prison located

02:55:38.020 in the east cannon complex in fremont county just east of canada city colorado ccf consists of two

02:55:42.900 separate buildings north and south the south facility opened in 2011 uh level five maximum security

02:55:48.420 facility facility all offenders of ccf are non are an administrative segregation also known as

02:55:52.740 solitary confinement ccf is the uh counterpart of the colorado state penitentiary also known

02:55:57.380 east cannon complex and north facilities originally is the original facility in primary houses level

02:56:02.260 five maximum security offenders so i guess maybe they moved them here so that he can get mental treatment

02:56:07.860 mental um uh mental health treatment maybe that's what it is uh but yeah i can't think of like

02:56:14.180 a federal offense that they would get him for for killing someone in a state prison uh i don't know

02:56:20.340 how what federal laws that would trigger but anyway uh so let's go ahead and go back to y'all okay so uh

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02:58:00.660 i was a special agent with homeland investigations okay guys hsi

02:58:03.700 the cases that i did mostly were human smuggling and drug trafficking no one else has these documents

02:58:10.740 by the way here's what fed it covers dr lafredo confirmed lacerations due to stepping on glass

02:58:19.060 murder investigations you see i'm reaching in this jacket you don't know and he's positioning

02:58:23.060 been on february 13 2019 you're facing two counts of two meditative miracles racketeering and rico

02:58:28.980 conspiracies young slime life here and after referred to as ysl the defendants uh six nine

02:58:33.940 and then this is billy seiko right here now when they first started guys six nine ran i'm a fed i'm

02:58:38.980 watching this music video you know i'm bobbing my highlight hey this shit lit but at the same time i'm

02:58:43.540 pausing oh wait who this right who's that in the back firearms and violent crimes aka bush i see

02:58:50.500 violated you're wanting to stay away from the victim this is the one that that's gonna

02:58:58.340 him up because this gun is not tracing well it happened at the gun range here's your boy 42

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02:59:12.340 right here suspect to set down a backpack on the site of the second explosion inspired by al-qaeda

02:59:18.420 two terrorists brothers the zokar sarnev and tamarland sarnev when the cartel shipped drugs into the

02:59:24.660 country as this guy got arrested for um espionage okay trading secrets with the russians for monetary

02:59:30.980 compensation the largest corrupt police bus in new orleans history the days of the police are gone

02:59:37.620 so he was in this bad boy we're gonna go over this

The Debrief With MyronGainesX - October 16, 2022

Fed Exposes The TRUTH About Netflix Series ＂Monster： The Jeffrey Dahmer Story＂

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