The Debrief With MyronGainesX - January 20, 2023


Fed & Lawyer Explain Torey Lanez Trial! DAY BY DAY Trial Analysis w⧸ Time Stamps! Ft.@LegalMindset


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 27 minutes

Words per Minute

201.75037

Word Count

29,822

Sentence Count

2,461

Misogynist Sentences

141

Hate Speech Sentences

39


Summary

Tory Lanez and Meg Thee Stallion's trial is in full swing and we're here to break it down. We're joined by special guest Andrew from Legal Mindset to break down the case and give us the most definitive and comprehensive breakdown of this trial on the internet.


Transcript

00:00:00.500 And we are live. What's up, guys? Welcome to FedIt. I'm here with Andrew from Legal Mindset, man.
00:00:05.240 We're going to be breaking down the Tory Lanez and Meg Thee Stallion trial.
00:00:09.360 Guys, it's going to be the most definitive and comprehensive breakdown of this trial on the Internet.
00:00:13.200 There's nobody else more qualified to talk about this crap. Let's get into it, guys. It's going to be a good one.
00:00:20.120 I was a special agent with Homeland Security Investigations, okay, guys? HSI.
00:00:23.420 The cases that I did mostly were human smuggling and drug trafficking.
00:00:27.640 No one else has these documents, by the way.
00:00:30.840 Here's what FedIt covers.
00:00:32.580 Dr. Lafredo confirmed lacerations due to stepping on glass.
00:00:38.780 Murder investigations.
00:00:39.780 You see him reaching in his jacket. You don't know.
00:00:42.040 And he's positioning.
00:00:42.700 Been on February 13, 2019.
00:00:44.400 You're facing two pounds of two meditative murderers.
00:00:47.480 Bracketeering and Rico conspiracies.
00:00:49.260 Young slime life here and after referred to as YSL.
00:00:51.920 This is 6ix9ine, and then this is Billy Seiko right here.
00:00:55.020 Now, when they first started, guys, 6ix9ine ran with PC.
00:00:58.040 I'm a Fed. I'm watching this music video.
00:01:00.260 You know, I'm bobbing my head like, hey, this shit lit.
00:01:02.360 But at the same time, I'm pausing.
00:01:03.840 Oh, wait, who this? Right?
00:01:05.520 Oh, who's that in the back?
00:01:07.620 Firearms and violent crime.
00:01:09.100 A.K.A. Bush Icy violated.
00:01:10.860 You're wanting to stay away from the victim.
00:01:12.580 Trapped with Bush Icy arrested after shooting at King of Diamonds.
00:01:14.940 Miami strip club injured one person.
00:01:16.620 This is the one that's going to fuck him up because this gun is not tracing.
00:01:20.080 Well, it happened at the gun range.
00:01:21.240 Here's your boy, 42 Doug, right here on the left.
00:01:23.580 Okay.
00:01:23.880 Sex trafficking and sex crime.
00:01:25.500 They can effectively link him to paying an underage girl.
00:01:28.580 I'm going to lock my foot in the right, right.
00:01:30.360 And the first bomb went off right here.
00:01:33.060 Suspect to set down a backpack on the site of the second explosion.
00:01:36.740 Inspired by Al-Qaeda.
00:01:38.160 Two terrorists, brothers, the Zokar Sarnev and Tamarland Sarnev.
00:01:42.540 When the cartels shipped drugs into the country.
00:01:44.780 This guy got arrested for espionage, okay?
00:01:47.480 Trading secrets with the Russians for monetary compensation.
00:01:51.500 The largest corrupt police bust in New Orleans history.
00:01:55.740 The days of the police are gone.
00:01:57.320 So he was in this bad boy.
00:01:58.880 We're going to go over his past, the gang tie, so that this all makes sense.
00:02:09.300 All right.
00:02:09.980 We are live.
00:02:10.580 What's up, guys?
00:02:11.000 Welcome to Fed It.
00:02:11.940 I'm here with Andrew from Legal Mindset.
00:02:17.880 So, guys, quick announcements real quick.
00:02:21.380 Freshoffit.locals.com.
00:02:23.000 Check us out over there.
00:02:23.840 Rumble.com slash Freshoffit.
00:02:25.460 But without further ado, guys, today is a big day.
00:02:28.500 We're going to go ahead and cover this case.
00:02:29.780 You guys have been requesting this quite a bit.
00:02:31.860 So I went ahead and brought in the heavy guns.
00:02:34.020 Andrew.
00:02:34.420 Andrew, I know who you are, but the audience might not.
00:02:36.340 Can you give yourself to the people real quick, man?
00:02:38.040 Yeah.
00:02:38.440 How's it going, everybody?
00:02:39.300 I'm Andrew, Legal Mindset.
00:02:40.420 Legal Mindset.locals.com.
00:02:41.900 Get on that Locals and Rumble train.
00:02:44.760 But I am a practicing Florida attorney.
00:02:47.900 Got over 10 years of experience.
00:02:49.280 I've been covering cases like this type of case on my channel for the past couple years.
00:02:55.760 And, you know, I loved diving into this and getting into the actual statutes.
00:03:00.280 A lot of jokers out there, they're not lawyers.
00:03:03.320 They don't know how to read the statutes.
00:03:04.620 They don't know how to go in there and look at police reports, look at cases.
00:03:07.540 But if you have an actual lawyer who's actually looking at these things, who's experienced with them, which is me, I love doing this.
00:03:14.960 And I do it on a regular basis on my channel, Legal Mindset.
00:03:17.600 So I'm happy to do that here with my good friend, Myron, who has been my friend for a long time.
00:03:22.660 And I'm always glad to come in and help him out with anything he ever needs.
00:03:26.660 Yeah, no, absolutely, man.
00:03:27.940 And I'm really happy to have you here, bro, because this is a big one.
00:03:31.360 And I've been getting an overwhelming amount of requests for this.
00:03:35.340 So real quick, guys, before we even get into this, I think it's very important that the person that's dispensing the information is qualified to give you the information.
00:03:44.140 So let me give you a little bit on my background, because I know we probably got some new viewers here.
00:03:47.160 You'll probably be watching this on the replay, which, by the way, I'm going to break this trial down.
00:03:51.160 We're going to break this trial down day by day.
00:03:53.580 Witness testimony by witness testimony and give you guys the whole breakdown on what the Fifth Amendment is, what, you know, immunity really is, how it works.
00:04:03.260 We're going to break down everything as far as how trials go.
00:04:06.140 Now, with that said, as you guys know, former Special Agent with Homeland Security Investigations, I've been to several trials.
00:04:12.320 And as a matter of fact, I've also done a trial where I was the lead case agent.
00:04:16.140 What does that mean?
00:04:16.740 That means that I have prepared for trials where I was the one gathering the witnesses, getting the reports ready, getting witnesses prepped up for trial.
00:04:23.580 Which we're going to talk about that.
00:04:24.540 The prosecution here made some mistakes about not prepping their witnesses.
00:04:27.560 We'll get into that a little bit later.
00:04:28.960 But I have definitely done a trial before at a federal level.
00:04:33.740 And when it comes to the feds and trials, we don't fuck around.
00:04:36.580 There's a reason why the feds don't lose.
00:04:38.280 This is a state trial, guys, which is a little bit more of a circus.
00:04:41.920 I ain't going to lie to y'all.
00:04:42.840 And you guys are going to see some of the crazy things that's going on in this trial as we get into it.
00:04:48.060 But I've definitely been testified in federal trials and I've been to several state trials as well.
00:04:55.020 I've never had to testify at a state trial, thank God.
00:04:57.140 However, I have been to them for other cases that I was involved in that might have been narcotics, whatever, maybe like that.
00:05:01.820 So definitely very aware of how the judicial system works from the law enforcement perspective and also for preparing for trial.
00:05:09.680 Because when you prepare for trial, guys, as the lead investigator, it is your job to gather all the facts and make the prosecutor's job a lot easier.
00:05:16.540 Because the prosecutor can't prosecute the case without the evidence that you have to go ahead and gather.
00:05:21.900 Which we're going to talk about some of the failures here by the police to gather the evidence.
00:05:25.860 And some of the W's as well.
00:05:27.040 They did have some W's as well.
00:05:28.800 But what about you, Andrew?
00:05:29.880 Can you give your background for the people real fast?
00:05:31.680 Yeah, no, like I said, I'm practicing attorney 10 years of experience.
00:05:34.100 I've been in tons of cases.
00:05:35.140 I've seen stuff like this, you know, regularly as I go into court.
00:05:39.220 I've covered cases like this.
00:05:40.960 This is a very interesting case, too, because it's a firearms case.
00:05:44.960 And whenever you bring in firearms issues, and this is something I cover a lot on my channel, you obviously invoke the Second Amendment.
00:05:51.940 There's some of the charges here.
00:05:53.200 There's one of the charges in particular that I think might be pushing up against that.
00:05:56.460 But it's a very fascinating case.
00:05:57.840 And like I said, this is in my bailiwick.
00:05:59.420 This is something I covered, something I know about, statutes that I know.
00:06:02.440 I do not practice in California.
00:06:04.000 This is a California case.
00:06:05.180 But when you read one statute in one state, they very much usually mirror statutes in other states.
00:06:09.780 The only difference is California has a little bit extra because they like to regulate guns a lot more than my home state of Florida.
00:06:16.800 You know, in our home state of Florida.
00:06:19.140 And I think an important thing as well is that you've litigated before, of course.
00:06:22.000 So, and a lot of lawyers, guys, have not litigating basically means like arguing in court.
00:06:26.820 So, Andrew understands completely, you know, the rules of procedure, how things work, et cetera.
00:06:32.280 So, definitely, you guys are going to get some expert level stuff right now.
00:06:36.440 So, anything else before we go?
00:06:38.560 So, we spoke about our backgrounds, our qualifications.
00:06:40.600 Did you want to go over what?
00:06:43.000 Actually, you know what?
00:06:43.560 This is what I'll do.
00:06:44.100 I'll go ahead and introduce you guys to who Magda Stallion is, Tory Lanez, et cetera.
00:06:47.820 Some of you guys might not be in the hip-hop scene.
00:06:49.520 Some of you guys might not be aware of who these individuals are, which is totally cool.
00:06:53.800 We're bringing you guys up to speed real fast.
00:06:55.740 So, Magda Stallion, here she is, guys.
00:06:57.900 Megan Javon Ruth Peet, born February 15, 1995, known professionally as Megan The Stallion, pronounced Megan The Stallion, is an American rapper and songwriter originally from Houston, Texas.
00:07:06.740 She first garnered attention when videos of her freestyle became popular on social media platforms such as Instagram.
00:07:11.140 Megan The Stallion signed to 300 Entertainment 2018, where she released the mixtape Fever 2019 and the extended play Suga 2020, both of which reached the top 10 of the Billboard 200.
00:07:22.100 Most importantly, she's got that WAP, right?
00:07:25.740 The number one, that number one song.
00:07:28.420 While everybody knows, when I say Megan The Stallion, they immediately think WAP.
00:07:31.560 And right here, if you go here, she earned her first and second number one singles on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100 with the remix of her song Savage featuring Beyonce and her feature on Cardi B's single WAP, the latter of which was her first number one in several other countries as well as the Billboard Global 200 chart.
00:07:47.040 So, as you guys can see here, distinguished artists hit the Billboard Top 200 and number one, which not many artists are able to acknowledge, right?
00:07:55.580 Or not, sorry, not able to reach.
00:07:57.560 Then you got Tory Lanez here.
00:07:58.880 Daystar, Samuel Shua Peterson, born July 27, 1992, known professionally as Tory Lanez, is a Canadian rapper, singer, songwriter, and record producer.
00:08:07.120 He received initial recognition from the mixtape Conflicts of My Soul, the 416 story, released in August of 2013.
00:08:13.540 In 2015, Tory Lanez signed to record producer Benny Blanco's Mad Love Records through Interscope.
00:08:19.160 Okay?
00:08:19.820 So, he is the accused.
00:08:21.440 And then you got Kelsey Nicole, which she doesn't have a Wikipedia page, but here she is, guys.
00:08:26.940 This is Meg the Stein's former best friend slash assistant.
00:08:30.180 As you guys can see, she just had a child, which we're going to talk about that in the trial here in a little bit.
00:08:34.920 But, yeah, her and Meg have known each other since college.
00:08:37.520 Very close, but this is her IG right here.
00:08:39.680 She is one of the main witnesses in the case, and I do want to add that she is a prosecution's witness.
00:08:45.540 Okay?
00:08:45.780 So, Meg is the victim, allegedly.
00:08:49.320 Tory is the perpetrator, allegedly.
00:08:52.020 And Kelsey is a witness, allegedly, I guess.
00:08:56.060 And one of the important facts, guys, and we're going to come back to this, is that Tory Lanez, Daystar Peterson, he is a Canadian citizen.
00:09:04.000 So, we're going to get into how that matters, because legally, that is something that does matter.
00:09:09.460 And that's why you've got to know the background of these people, because some of these facts really matter a lot.
00:09:13.380 Something like that is very relevant in this case.
00:09:15.300 And it's a big reason why Tory guys can't take a plea.
00:09:18.360 I know some of you guys are like, oh, why doesn't Tory just take a plea?
00:09:21.360 It's not that serious.
00:09:22.320 He probably could get a plea down to, like, you know, aggravated assault.
00:09:26.420 It ain't that big a deal.
00:09:27.640 He probably won't get that much time.
00:09:28.660 You want to talk about 8 U.S.C. 1227, Ryan?
00:09:32.300 You know about that?
00:09:33.060 The reason why he can't take a plea, guys, and he has to fight this thing to the death is because he's a Canadian national, okay?
00:09:39.780 So, that means if he's arrested and convicted of this crime, what's going to happen is Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Office of Enforcement and Removal Operations is going to lodge something called the detainer, okay?
00:09:52.580 And this detainer means as soon as he gets out of prison, they're going to go ahead and grab him up right as he's getting his bag like, yeah, I'm free.
00:10:00.520 They're going to get his ass right then and there.
00:10:02.620 And a lot of times the jails will hold the prisoner until immigration comes on their release day, right, as a courtesy, and then they'll pick him up, arrest him.
00:10:11.520 Now he's in federal custody.
00:10:12.560 He's on a plane going back to fucking Canada, and he will be inadmissible.
00:10:16.260 And coming back to the United States, he will be something called excluded in immigration law.
00:10:20.360 So, he can't afford to lose this trial, guys, because if he loses this trial, he'll be convicted of felony.
00:10:25.200 He'll be deported.
00:10:25.980 And worst part, he's an entertainer and a musician.
00:10:29.420 We know the United States is one of the biggest markets when it comes to hip-hop.
00:10:32.780 If he can't tour and do music here in the United States, it's going to hurt him significantly because most artists make most of their money from touring, guys.
00:10:41.560 All right?
00:10:42.200 So, this is high-stakes stuff here.
00:10:44.520 And, okay, so – was there – were you going to say something?
00:10:49.760 You wanted to cover?
00:10:50.160 Oh, yeah.
00:10:50.400 No, I was going to say – yeah, deportable offense under 8 U.S.C. 1227 is any crime which has a sentence of one year or more.
00:10:59.240 So, that's a felony offense, right?
00:11:00.600 So, essentially, anything that's a felony offense is going to get you.
00:11:03.000 That's an easy way to do it.
00:11:04.180 But even misdemeanors, like if they were to go past that for – there's not a lot of misdemeanors that do.
00:11:08.760 So, for misdemeanors, it's two crimes of moral and turpitude will get you deported.
00:11:13.000 More of moral and turpitude.
00:11:14.700 So, I think he already has the rest for other stuff.
00:11:17.560 So, let's say he gets arrested for – and he takes even a misdemeanor in this case.
00:11:21.980 It could still mess him up where they're going to be like, you know what, bro?
00:11:24.400 You're a nuisance.
00:11:24.940 You've been arrested before.
00:11:25.880 You're causing problems.
00:11:26.820 We're just going to remove you.
00:11:27.780 We're going to revoke your visa because he's probably here on an entertainer visa.
00:11:31.440 Oh, yeah.
00:11:32.040 So, he could just revoke his visa.
00:11:33.440 Like, I doubt he has a green card.
00:11:34.540 So, green card is a little bit harder to take.
00:11:37.400 But even then, if he gets convicted of two crimes, they get rid of him.
00:11:40.320 And then if he's here on a visa, they can definitely yank that.
00:11:43.140 Yeah, people don't understand how hard it is.
00:11:45.180 Like, especially if – I'm over here in Seoul, South Korea.
00:11:47.280 That's something I didn't tell you guys here.
00:11:48.420 I'm living in Asia.
00:11:49.280 You know, when you're living in another country and you don't got that passport, you don't got that citizenship, right, you are on a thin fucking line.
00:11:59.120 You are on a thin line.
00:12:00.560 The excuses that they have to deport your ass are why.
00:12:04.560 You don't have rights like a normal citizen.
00:12:06.740 Your rights are far diminished as a person who's just visiting a country, who's just there on a visa.
00:12:11.820 Yep.
00:12:12.360 So, yeah.
00:12:13.280 And I don't know Tory's immigration status, but more than likely, he either has an entertainer visa or he has a green card.
00:12:18.980 He has an entertainer visa.
00:12:20.020 They could take that for any reason pretty much.
00:12:22.120 And then a green card, they could take it even if he's convicted of two misdemeanors and moral intrepidude or if he's convicted of a felony, definitely going to lose that green card.
00:12:29.760 So there's a lot riding here.
00:12:32.320 You know, he can't just plead guilty to anything, guys.
00:12:34.360 So for all you guys that are saying, you should have just took the plea.
00:12:36.020 Can't, bro.
00:12:37.420 So I'll hit these chats real quick.
00:12:39.500 Christina, can you pull them up?
00:12:40.780 And then I'll go – and then we'll go ahead and get into the first stuff.
00:12:44.820 Stopping by to show love.
00:12:45.780 Thank you so much.
00:12:46.300 Beats by ISO.
00:12:47.840 What else?
00:12:48.980 Anything else?
00:12:49.720 I saw that earlier one about how many states can regulate the – regulate handguns.
00:12:55.540 Yeah, there you go.
00:12:56.200 How are the states able to bypass the Second Amendment and regulate handguns?
00:12:59.180 They just do it.
00:12:59.940 Let me explain this very quickly.
00:13:00.960 One of the charges in this is – and this is one of the charges against Tory Lanez – is possession of an unregistered firearm.
00:13:10.360 I got it right here.
00:13:11.020 I got it right here.
00:13:11.560 And this is under California Penal Code, Section Part 6, Title 4, Division 5, Chapter 3, carrying a loaded firearm.
00:13:21.640 Right?
00:13:21.840 So this is the one here.
00:13:23.860 You are not –
00:13:24.880 On your side, Andrew, hit control.
00:13:26.100 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:13:26.700 Let me just get this thing real big for you guys.
00:13:29.380 Yeah, I know.
00:13:30.200 I got that laser vision.
00:13:31.500 I got those laser eyes.
00:13:32.500 But, you know, let me get down here for you guys to Section 6.
00:13:35.800 All right?
00:13:36.200 So you have to be the registered person with the Department of Justice listed as the owner of the handgun.
00:13:44.900 Right?
00:13:45.360 Now, this, in my humble opinion, is unconstitutional.
00:13:49.220 This is violative of the Second Amendment.
00:13:51.420 How do states do that?
00:13:52.880 Well, states can do whatever the fuck they want until you challenge the law.
00:13:57.280 See, this is the frustrating thing with states, particularly states like California.
00:14:01.940 Governor Gavin Newsom has said on the record that he knows things are unconstitutional when he passes it, but he knows it is a tactic to delay because someone has to challenge that law to get overthrown.
00:14:14.760 We just saw a huge case in New York, New York versus Bruin, where their registration requirement got overturned, got found unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court.
00:14:24.240 The problem is it goes back to the same New York legislators, the same New York courts, to reformulate that.
00:14:30.140 They're going to do everything they can to stop you from legally carrying a firearm.
00:14:35.560 The people that are out there that want to carry firearms and are doing crimes that are carrying them illegally, they're carrying them regardless.
00:14:41.360 But they want to do everything they can to stop people from legally carrying firearms.
00:14:45.040 That's something I've been covering on my channel for a long time.
00:14:47.000 So I'm not surprised about this, but I will say, if Tory Lanez was just convicted on this charge and this charge alone, this could go to the Supreme Court.
00:14:55.520 So wouldn't that be crazy? Tory Lanez versus California would be the case.
00:15:01.960 That would be fucking nuts.
00:15:05.060 But we'll talk about whether we think he's going to get convicted or not a little bit later in this.
00:15:10.380 Once we go through all the evidence.
00:15:12.200 I guess that's a perfect – this case is the BET version of Amber Heard versus Johnny Depp.
00:15:18.940 Okay, what else? Anything else, Christina?
00:15:21.860 Oh, shit.
00:15:22.480 Jay, $100, thank you so much.
00:15:24.680 When these two guys analyze your case, you know you're in trouble.
00:15:27.160 Yeah, I brought the big guns in.
00:15:28.400 If I brought Andrew in, y'all know it's a big deal.
00:15:30.880 And we're going to go over this.
00:15:32.580 Don't worry, the timestamps are going to be super fucking detailed.
00:15:35.360 So from this point forward, guys, I'm not going to read chats unless they're 50 and up because I really want to get through this.
00:15:39.780 We've got a lot to cover.
00:15:40.860 We're going to go day by day.
00:15:42.120 Is there anything else, Christina, before?
00:15:44.580 Okay, pull them up.
00:15:45.400 And then, guys, do me a favor.
00:15:47.120 Like the video, subscribe to the channel, then also subscribe to Legal Mindset.
00:15:49.720 He's tagged in a title.
00:15:50.440 So let's go ahead and get him to 100,000 subscribers, get him a plaque.
00:15:53.320 Almost there, baby.
00:15:54.480 Of course, Osama Bin Laden, a.k.a.
00:15:57.080 Myron's grandfather, goes, glad to be back for your grandson.
00:15:59.820 Thank you so much, Bin Laden.
00:16:00.800 I appreciate it.
00:16:01.400 I thought you were bad, bro.
00:16:02.500 And then Barwon BBL, Legal Free, goes, always wonder why the driver was not subpoenaed if he is the key witness and saw everything.
00:16:08.520 That's a good question.
00:16:09.420 We could give you guys theories on that as well, why I think he probably wasn't subpoenaed.
00:16:13.840 Anything else?
00:16:15.360 Cool.
00:16:15.760 No, let's just rock and roll.
00:16:16.700 All right, so with that said, guys, like I said, like the video, subscribe to both channels, and let's get into this.
00:16:22.560 So anything that – oh, let's go over the charges, Andrew, real fast.
00:16:26.060 Yeah, sure, sure.
00:16:27.400 So we got three charges.
00:16:29.180 I already brought up the one for possession of an unregistered firearm, a loaded unregistered firearm.
00:16:34.280 That's one.
00:16:34.920 Second is assault – well, it's under the assault statute.
00:16:39.240 Let me pull this up right here.
00:16:40.680 Yeah.
00:16:41.140 And this – yeah, this is under Chapter 246.3, which is except as authorized by law.
00:16:50.100 This is 246.3a here.
00:16:52.060 So this is for discharging a firearm in a grossly negligent manner.
00:17:19.800 Now, let me be very clear.
00:17:21.920 I know when some people hear negligence, they just mean, oh, that was something that a reasonable person wouldn't do.
00:17:26.460 No.
00:17:27.240 Grossly negligence is a high standard, something that you knowingly do, and you know it could cause harm to others, something like firing into a crowd, something like, you know, Russian roulette.
00:17:39.220 That's grossly negligent, right?
00:17:41.000 If you know there's bullets in the gun and you're passing that gun around, that's grossly negligent.
00:17:45.680 That's something you know is bad.
00:17:47.360 So it's a higher level than just, hey, you know, I was driving down the road and I, you know, wasn't – I looked at my phone and then I got in a car crash.
00:17:54.980 That's negligent.
00:17:55.800 That's not necessarily grossly negligent.
00:17:57.700 So this is a pretty high standard, not something that is on the negligent standard.
00:18:02.920 That's one charge.
00:18:04.480 And the next charge we got against him is over here, which is 245A1, any person who commits an assault upon a person of another with a deadly weapon or instrument other than a firearm.
00:18:18.000 Oh, this is for other than a firearm.
00:18:19.220 Sorry.
00:18:21.840 Probably one of the others.
00:18:22.660 Here we go.
00:18:23.140 Two.
00:18:23.400 Two.
00:18:23.640 It's two.
00:18:23.920 Yeah.
00:18:24.040 Yeah.
00:18:24.640 Any person who commits an assault upon a person – upon the person of another with a firearm shall be punished by imprisonment in the state of two, three, four years or in a county jail not less than six months and not exceeding one year.
00:18:37.360 So, boom.
00:18:38.080 There you go.
00:18:38.820 Now, I want to say these statutes, this is very typical.
00:18:40.900 Myron, I know you've seen this a lot where one statute will have – it'll have a punishment for non-firearms and for firearms, right?
00:18:49.100 So this is all under here.
00:18:50.740 Even below this, you see there's punishment for people with machine guns.
00:18:54.460 Yeah.
00:18:54.540 So you've got everything covered in one statute.
00:18:57.280 It's just subsections of that one statute.
00:18:59.620 Yeah.
00:19:00.000 And this is assault and battery.
00:19:01.780 So this is a type of assault and battery charge.
00:19:04.320 And then there was – was there one more?
00:19:05.720 Didn't they get them for –
00:19:06.320 No, that was –
00:19:07.040 Like discharging or something like that?
00:19:08.360 The third one was carrying of a loaded firearm in public, the unregistered firearm.
00:19:13.560 So unregistered firearm, discharging it in a grossly negligent manner, right?
00:19:18.600 And assault.
00:19:19.700 The day of the trial.
00:19:20.620 Didn't they – or a day before the trial, they hit them with that discharging one.
00:19:24.040 Yes, yes.
00:19:25.800 They hit them with the discharging one.
00:19:27.280 This is the one over here, the grossly negligent discharge.
00:19:29.660 They hit them with this very, very, very shortly, proximate to the trial, which means they're reaching.
00:19:38.120 That is actually a sign of desperation on the side of the prosecution.
00:19:42.400 If they thought they had it, they wouldn't be adding charges.
00:19:45.060 When they start adding charges, that means they think what they got isn't going to stick.
00:19:49.340 Yeah, and to do it right before the trial is strange, extremely strange.
00:19:53.540 Yeah.
00:19:53.680 But that's the state for you.
00:19:55.960 Yep.
00:19:56.820 All right.
00:19:57.300 So, okay.
00:19:58.260 So now that you guys know, so let's go over the facts of the case overall, and then we're going to go ahead and get into each day of the trial.
00:20:04.500 This is basically what happened, guys.
00:20:06.180 They went ahead – there was a party at Kylie Jenner's home.
00:20:11.260 Meg Thee Stallion and Kelsey were present.
00:20:13.240 Tory Lanez came after the fact.
00:20:15.200 Pretty much everyone agrees that they were at this party.
00:20:18.100 It was going on.
00:20:18.880 There were some other celebs there, et cetera.
00:20:21.360 Then at some point in the evening, they left the party, and when they left the party, there was arguments in the vehicle.
00:20:28.380 The vehicle had stopped.
00:20:30.720 Meg got out of the vehicle, and she was shot by somebody.
00:20:34.460 Meg alleges that it was Tory.
00:20:36.420 Tory's saying he didn't shoot, or he's basically staying silent on the subject.
00:20:39.460 There's evidence all over the place that points to this and that.
00:20:42.980 But no one really knows who shot Meg, and Tory ended up getting charged because the weapon was found in the front seat when they got arrested.
00:20:52.000 He was also in the front seat, so they went ahead and charged him because of constructive possession.
00:20:56.920 And as you guys know on FedIt, right, we were the first ones to show y'all that police report, which I'll go ahead and pull it up for you guys real quick.
00:21:03.740 And there's some really good facts in that police report.
00:21:06.620 And Myron went through and found the best facts here and circled them because these are the ones you need to laser in on.
00:21:13.860 Yeah.
00:21:14.160 So here's the police report, guys.
00:21:15.680 Here's the arrest report.
00:21:16.660 As you guys can see, they start.
00:21:18.380 I got to get.
00:21:20.140 Shout out to Christina.
00:21:21.040 She went to get the police report first.
00:21:22.900 We're the first ones to break it, okay, this police report.
00:21:26.000 It was a pain in the ass to get, but we're able to get it.
00:21:27.740 And so here's his booking documents and everything else like that.
00:21:31.860 So as you guys know, this happened on the 12th of July, okay, and this is the charged can and concealed weapon in a vehicle originally.
00:21:39.200 So they ended up arresting him, right?
00:21:41.480 And I'll go over the witnesses here a little bit later, but the biggest thing is, let's see here.
00:21:47.540 Based off the location where the handgun was located and where Peterson was seated prior to being detained, officers formed the opinion that Peterson was in constructive possession of the handgun, okay?
00:21:58.400 And that's why they ended up arresting him because he was in the front seat at first when they pulled them over.
00:22:02.760 But let's be clear.
00:22:04.220 Constructive possession, what does that mean?
00:22:05.840 It does not mean actual possession.
00:22:07.740 That does not mean he actually had it on him.
00:22:09.580 He did not actually have it on him.
00:22:11.040 They would have said he actually possessed the firearm.
00:22:13.120 It was just within his alleged reach, which is why they say he was in constructive possession of the firearm.
00:22:20.080 Yeah.
00:22:20.660 So, and as you guys can see here, I'm going to show you guys some footage of when they got arrested, okay?
00:22:25.360 So.
00:22:26.380 The DA's office says Lanes, whose legal name is.
00:22:28.740 You guys can see right here.
00:22:29.780 Here's the Escalade.
00:22:31.040 Here's Lanes, right?
00:22:32.420 Proned out in his swim trunks because they had pool party at Kylie Jenner's place and they were coming back.
00:22:37.860 All right.
00:22:37.920 Man, that sucks, bro.
00:22:38.840 In the middle of the highway, like, proned out.
00:22:41.880 For sure.
00:22:43.120 Right?
00:22:46.140 And then.
00:22:47.060 It's Daystar Peterson.
00:22:48.220 So this is what you call a felony stop, by the way, guys, okay?
00:22:50.740 A felony stop is when you go ahead and you, you know, you stop the vehicle.
00:22:53.760 They got lights on it.
00:22:54.600 They're trying to see what the hell's going on.
00:22:55.900 Obviously, the police had information that a shooting had just occurred.
00:22:58.820 They don't know what's going on.
00:22:59.900 So they have to take extreme procedures like this.
00:23:02.660 So here's Megan Thee Stallion now coming out.
00:23:04.600 And as you guys can see, she's hobbling.
00:23:06.940 Shot Megan's feet.
00:23:07.980 And she's in a bikini, so they have her blurred.
00:23:09.820 During an argument in the Hollywood Hills, July 12th.
00:23:12.820 You're going to be flashing that what?
00:23:14.000 Eight-year-old, rather, was arrested last night or the night of the shooting, but was
00:23:19.080 released after posting bail.
00:23:20.940 He now faces two felony charges and is set to be arraigned Tuesday in L.A.
00:23:25.480 If convicted, he faces.
00:23:26.920 And they got Kelsey out and they pretty much took all of them into custody.
00:23:29.980 Okay, guys?
00:23:31.180 So that's the general facts of the case, right?
00:23:33.580 Because we don't know for sure who shot who.
00:23:35.960 This trial has raised quite a bit of questions.
00:23:38.280 But there was a party.
00:23:40.160 Meg was there.
00:23:41.140 Tori was there.
00:23:42.020 Kelsey was there.
00:23:42.840 They all left together.
00:23:43.700 There was an argument or a disagreement in the vehicle.
00:23:45.980 Meg ended up getting out and she ended up getting shot.
00:23:48.300 There were five shots that were fired.
00:23:49.700 That pretty much has been the story between everybody.
00:23:52.120 But no one can actually conclusively identify who the shooter was.
00:23:57.380 So anything you want to say, Andrew, before we get into the first day?
00:24:00.200 No, I think these are the facts.
00:24:03.220 Like when you go back and you look at it, you have to reconcile these initial facts with
00:24:07.500 what they're saying at trial.
00:24:08.920 And does this line up?
00:24:10.080 Does this line up with the police report, the things we know, the things we see from
00:24:14.480 this testimony?
00:24:15.060 Does this line up with what they're saying at court?
00:24:17.360 Because the whole thing is you can say one thing at court, right?
00:24:21.360 A year later, shit happens.
00:24:23.340 Things go down.
00:24:24.320 You're no longer fucking the guy you were fucking a year ago.
00:24:26.780 You feel a certain way about it now.
00:24:28.600 You can change your testimony.
00:24:30.140 And that happens a lot, especially when you get something that happened a year, two years
00:24:34.820 ago.
00:24:35.160 And this is now two years ago, right, man?
00:24:36.840 This is about two years ago.
00:24:39.020 That's a lot of time.
00:24:40.560 It's a lot of time to change your story.
00:24:42.480 Yep.
00:24:43.100 So, okay.
00:24:44.000 So we're going to go day by day here, guys.
00:24:45.820 So day one of the trial is opening statements.
00:24:51.820 Andrew, you want to take it away and explain what opening statements are?
00:24:53.500 Yeah, so opening statements.
00:24:54.860 The point of opening statements is to lay out your theory of the trial.
00:25:01.420 Now, people, human beings tend to pay attention to two things the most, what you say in the
00:25:07.080 beginning and what you say at the end.
00:25:09.440 So it really matters how you start out your case and how you end it.
00:25:14.040 You've got to start strong and end strong.
00:25:16.040 And what people are going to check for in that opening statement is the theory of the case.
00:25:21.360 What's the story?
00:25:22.320 So the prosecution is trying to lay out their story.
00:25:25.840 Hey, here's our story.
00:25:27.320 Here's why Tory Lanez did this.
00:25:29.400 Watch us prove these crimes.
00:25:31.060 We're going to show you these things.
00:25:32.520 We're going to prove these things at trial.
00:25:34.400 We're showing you how he had the handgun, how he shot it, how he injured Meg, how he assaulted Meg.
00:25:39.700 We're going to show you that during this trial.
00:25:42.580 And then you have to go and do that.
00:25:44.700 And then your closing is saying, hey, look, we told you we were going to do this and we did this.
00:25:49.840 Mic drop.
00:25:51.040 And those two things need to be tight.
00:25:53.880 You cannot go and change your theory of the case or change your story during the trial.
00:25:58.780 You're going to lose credibility with the jury.
00:26:00.680 You're probably going to lose some credibility with the judge.
00:26:02.780 And you're just going to completely flop.
00:26:04.540 So your opening needs to be strong and it needs to line up with exactly what you're going to show during the trial.
00:26:09.740 This becomes relevant, especially for the prosecution.
00:26:13.540 Bam.
00:26:14.040 So now you guys know what opening statements are.
00:26:16.420 Very important because I agree with you 100% on that, Andrew.
00:26:19.320 The people remember what happens at the beginning and at the end.
00:26:22.460 You go back and you look at the OJ trial.
00:26:24.220 What does everyone remember?
00:26:25.440 If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit.
00:26:28.180 Yep.
00:26:28.600 Bam.
00:26:28.800 So they always remember the opening and the closing statements.
00:26:31.740 So guys, opening statements, the prosecution always goes first.
00:26:36.640 I want to let you guys know this as well.
00:26:38.940 It is on the prosecution, a.k.a.
00:26:41.440 the prosecutors and the detectives and the police to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Tory shot Meg the stallion.
00:26:49.940 So you got to understand that the prosecution has got to put the case together, not the defense.
00:26:55.840 The defense is there to kind of question the evidence, but they don't necessarily have to put their own witnesses on.
00:27:01.900 They don't have to really do anything.
00:27:03.240 They just have to defend against the prosecution.
00:27:05.820 All right.
00:27:06.340 So prosecution always goes first, guys, in opening statements.
00:27:08.860 And what the prosecution basically said in opening statements, they open up and they say, dance, bitch, dance.
00:27:16.340 Okay.
00:27:17.060 They open with that, which is, as you guys know, what Tory Lanez allegedly said to Meg the stallion before he shot her five times.
00:27:24.120 And basically, they say there was an argument at the party about Tory's music.
00:27:32.520 Okay.
00:27:33.060 Meg was insulting Tory's music.
00:27:35.320 Meg gets out the car and Tory, out of anger of what she had said about his music, gets out the car, yells, dance, bitch, and shoots at her.
00:27:43.420 Okay.
00:27:43.860 They said that there was fragments, bullet fragments in her foot.
00:27:46.540 And they also said in opening statements, which is going to be funny later on, Kelsey will come in and testify and show you guys that Tory was the shooter and he shot her.
00:27:58.140 Okay.
00:27:58.420 They also show text messages between Tory and Meg and Kelsey, where he's apologizing profusely.
00:28:06.440 And they basically use that to insinuate, what is he apologizing for?
00:28:11.500 He's the shooter.
00:28:12.620 We have an overwhelming amount of evidence, et cetera, which is what you're doing a lot of the times with opening statements.
00:28:16.540 You're posturing to the other side, oh, we're going to kill y'all.
00:28:19.120 Then the defense goes up and they're opening statements.
00:28:22.160 And they say, do you have anything?
00:28:23.540 Go ahead, Andrew.
00:28:23.860 No, one thing on the prosecution, real quick, the prosecution, if there's a crime and there's elements of a crime, they got to prove all of them.
00:28:31.020 They got to prove every single element.
00:28:33.440 So if there's one thing they're missing, if there's a single thing, the prosecution cannot win, which is why they have to say exactly like Myron said, we have a bunch of evidence.
00:28:42.600 We're going to prove this with overwhelming evidence because they do have to provide overwhelming evidence for every single element of the crime.
00:28:49.400 The defense just has to poke holes in one piece of that pie.
00:28:53.300 They have to get one little hole in their theory of the case.
00:28:56.480 One little piece of evidence is broken.
00:28:58.220 That's reasonable doubt.
00:28:59.540 They're innocent.
00:29:00.760 That's all they got to do is they muddy the waters a little bit, guys.
00:29:04.040 That's their job is to muddy the waters.
00:29:06.280 OK, so so now the so now the defense guys says, OK, well, the prosecution isn't telling you guys about an eyewitness.
00:29:17.040 OK, who saw them fighting.
00:29:19.440 OK, and I know what they're talking about.
00:29:20.700 I could pull up the police report and show you guys here in a second.
00:29:23.220 And then also they said gunpowder was found on Kelsey.
00:29:26.800 They said the fight wasn't a fight between Tori and Meg.
00:29:30.820 Rather, it was a fight between Kelsey and Meg because Meg was sleeping with a bunch of guys that Kelsey had dealt with prior to include Ben Simmons, the baby and Tori Lane's.
00:29:45.620 OK, so the defense goes in and kind of pictures shows Meg as a jealous, angry friend who backstabs her friend with men.
00:29:55.640 And they also said.
00:29:58.000 And by the way, this is relevant.
00:29:59.340 This is relevant as the motive, right?
00:30:00.940 This is all very, very relevant as motive.
00:30:03.300 Sex, relationships.
00:30:04.440 These are the strongest motives.
00:30:05.540 When people end up getting killed, when people end up getting in altercations, it often is about I mean, and Myron talks about this on both of his shows is often involving a man and a woman for clear reasons.
00:30:16.720 We all know about in society.
00:30:18.780 Absolutely.
00:30:19.220 And then they also said that the gun was in the front seat.
00:30:23.580 Meg was originally in the front seat and they theorize that Tori is in the shooter.
00:30:29.000 Kelsey is the shooter.
00:30:30.580 OK, now that's very important because they're going to take this theory that Kelsey was really the shooter and run with it.
00:30:38.360 And you guys are going to see how things unfold later on.
00:30:40.900 So those that's the opening statements.
00:30:43.160 Right.
00:30:44.240 Then the prosecution starts to call their witnesses.
00:30:47.460 OK, they called a police officer that was at this.
00:30:51.600 Actually, you know, before I talk about this, this police officer, I want to show.
00:30:56.960 Actually, no, no, I can pull that up later.
00:30:58.520 And by the way, the prosecution always goes first.
00:31:00.720 Sort of the order of operation for witnesses is usually prosecution, defense.
00:31:05.560 Sometimes the prosecution gets to open up again after that.
00:31:08.740 And then the defense may get to rebut that.
00:31:11.280 Obviously, within each witness.
00:31:13.240 Right.
00:31:13.460 Prosecution calls a witness.
00:31:14.820 Defense gets to cross, cross examine and cross examine.
00:31:17.460 And that's the normal procedure for trial.
00:31:20.240 Prosecution goes first.
00:31:21.260 Then the defense.
00:31:22.540 Prosecution can sometimes open up again if there's certain things they need to address.
00:31:26.580 And then defense can rebut that again.
00:31:28.960 So that's typically how the flow of the case goes.
00:31:31.280 Perfect.
00:31:31.580 Yep.
00:31:31.780 And that sets the stage because the first witness they pretty much called.
00:31:34.980 They were all law enforcement officers.
00:31:37.020 Now, what the.
00:31:39.000 So as you guys know, just like Andrew described, the prosecution calls the witnesses typically first
00:31:43.880 because they're the ones that are the burden of proof is on them.
00:31:46.240 So the police officers typically are almost always law enforcement officials are always
00:31:51.140 the prosecution's witness.
00:31:52.140 Right.
00:31:52.760 So they get one of the police officers that was actually at the scene on the stand that
00:31:56.360 took the initial reports.
00:31:57.720 Right.
00:31:58.080 And he's on direct.
00:31:58.920 So when you're on direct, guys, the prosecutor is asking you leading questions.
00:32:02.280 Tell us about your training experience.
00:32:03.700 What did you see when you showed up that night?
00:32:05.540 Tell me about this.
00:32:06.340 Tell me about that.
00:32:07.040 The prosecutor's job is to kind of throw you some softballs, make you look good, make
00:32:10.920 you look credible.
00:32:11.920 And their job is to kind of, you know, nudge you in the right direction as far as like
00:32:16.020 what to say.
00:32:16.480 Right.
00:32:16.680 So then the defense goes on cross-examination, which you want to explain what cross-examination
00:32:22.380 is real quick to the people, Andrew.
00:32:24.120 Yeah.
00:32:24.460 Cross-examination.
00:32:25.440 So there's different rules for direct and cross-examination.
00:32:28.440 Direct examination is really, you're supposed to be letting them tell their story, right?
00:32:32.700 Because they're a friendly witness.
00:32:34.100 They're a witness that you've called up.
00:32:35.240 So you're kind of just letting them tell their story, letting them tell what they saw,
00:32:38.920 what they felt, maybe what they heard, but not what they heard from another person,
00:32:43.760 what they heard in terms of things going on, right?
00:32:45.820 Because there's always something called hearsay.
00:32:48.020 Hearsay is statements made to prove the truth of the matter asserted.
00:32:52.240 And you need to have the actual person who experienced the thing there in court.
00:32:58.380 So when they're on direct examination, they're trying to give their story of what they experienced.
00:33:03.000 Cross-examination on the other side is not friendly.
00:33:06.560 It is against the interest, right?
00:33:09.220 So you're allowed to ask leading questions.
00:33:11.900 You're allowed to ask questions that aren't friendly.
00:33:14.260 You're allowed to ask yes or no questions.
00:33:16.440 You're allowed to not allow them to explain their story.
00:33:19.060 In fact, oftentimes, it's better to just get a yes or a no, because if you let them explain,
00:33:24.620 they're going to say shit that you don't want them to say.
00:33:28.380 So you want yes or no.
00:33:29.460 And what you're trying to do is usually, usually in cross-examination,
00:33:33.660 the goal is to show that that witness is full of shit in one way or another,
00:33:38.320 either because they're lying, either because they don't have the expertise,
00:33:41.080 you know, the proper expertise or training, if they're an expert or whatever.
00:33:44.820 You're trying to discredit that witness, to impeach that witness, trying to catch them
00:33:49.840 saying something that they said before that is different from what they're saying now
00:33:54.820 and therefore say they're not a credible witness.
00:33:58.400 This person is here.
00:33:59.560 They're talking to you.
00:34:00.240 They're not a credible witness.
00:34:01.640 You, the jury, cannot believe them.
00:34:03.360 So that is the chief role of cross-examination.
00:34:06.020 Thank you very much, Andrew.
00:34:07.720 And you guys are not going to get a breakdown like this anywhere else on the Internet.
00:34:12.700 You got two experts in the field breaking down this trial for you guys step by fucking step,
00:34:17.840 explaining what each term means.
00:34:19.560 Now, the other thing I also want to say with the cross-examination,
00:34:21.840 when you guys are watching Law & Order and all this other stuff and the lawyers are getting animated
00:34:25.220 and like, is it true that my client did this, blah, blah, blah?
00:34:28.400 Typically, that's on cross-examination.
00:34:30.920 You're grilling the hell out of that witness to make them shake them up, catch them in a lie,
00:34:36.220 discredit them, or best yet, get them to lie under oath, okay?
00:34:41.540 This is what the defense was able to successfully do with the O.J. Simpson trial with Mark Furman, okay?
00:34:47.420 As you guys know, Detective Furman, they went ahead and they cross-examined him
00:34:51.240 and made him look really bad, and he actually had to take the fifth, okay?
00:34:55.200 Which we're going to talk about the fifth here in a little bit.
00:34:56.980 But that's the point of a good cross-examination, okay, guys?
00:35:01.400 Is you're grilling that witness to destroy their credibility.
00:35:04.360 Now, so now that I set the stage there, the defense goes in to cross-examine this police officer.
00:35:10.400 And I ain't gonna lie, guys.
00:35:11.560 They fucked him up, okay?
00:35:13.540 Basically, what they find is the police didn't properly mark evidence at the scene.
00:35:21.260 The bullets, the blood, the pendant, the nail that was found, everything there was not properly done
00:35:28.820 where you're able to accurately assess the movement of the victim.
00:35:32.940 Now, you're probably wondering, well, Maya, why the fuck is that relevant?
00:35:35.820 Well, when you're talking about a case here where every second counts,
00:35:39.300 you need to know the exact path of the victim, the bullets, and everything else
00:35:42.880 so you can match things up and make sure stories corroborate
00:35:46.800 because you've got three drunk people that are giving crazy stories that contradict each other.
00:35:51.300 Well, the only thing that's going to be able to tell you the truth is the evidence.
00:35:55.020 But the problem is that the evidence wasn't marked properly with markers.
00:35:59.260 So there's no definitive answer to the victim's movement pattern
00:36:06.020 because the evidence wasn't properly marked and tagged appropriately.
00:36:10.760 And you guys got to remember, I want to make this extremely clear for you guys.
00:36:15.180 The prosecution's job is to go in there, show definitively this is what happened.
00:36:21.780 You cannot refute this evidence.
00:36:23.300 This is why DNA, this is why ballistics,
00:36:25.160 this is evidence that doesn't necessarily need anybody besides an expert witness, right,
00:36:30.060 to explain it to you, but it speaks for itself, all right?
00:36:32.980 It's self-standing evidence. Go ahead.
00:36:34.820 And let's look at some of the evidence they've got to prove here,
00:36:36.740 some of the basic evidence.
00:36:38.000 Number one, the first thing is they've got to prove Tory Lanez is a shooter, right?
00:36:41.800 So the number one, they've got to prove that.
00:36:43.280 That's one thing that people forget.
00:36:44.980 You've got to prove this is the guy that fired it.
00:36:47.140 Remember, there's four people in that car.
00:36:49.860 His security guard is in that car, right?
00:36:52.360 You've got Harris in that car.
00:36:53.900 You've got Meg this down in that car.
00:36:55.680 So you've got to prove that it wasn't any of them that fired that gun, definitively.
00:37:00.440 Then you've got to prove that they fired it at Megan.
00:37:04.460 And then beyond that, there's the actual injuries to Megan.
00:37:09.100 You've got to prove, hey, those are attributed to Tory Lanez personally firing it at Megan.
00:37:13.860 You've got a lot of things here that they've got to prove.
00:37:16.340 Now, some of the crimes, like, for example, just possession of the loaded firearm,
00:37:20.480 that one, a little bit lower.
00:37:23.100 But you've still got to prove Tory Lanez had the gun and that Megan Thee Stallion was the
00:37:28.740 one he was aiming it at or pointing it at.
00:37:31.200 So you've got all those things you've got to prove.
00:37:33.120 That's actually, these are actually major things that in this case where you need evidence like
00:37:37.780 that.
00:37:38.160 And they really fucked that up.
00:37:40.020 And Myron, if that happened to you, if that happened in your experience as a law enforcement
00:37:43.700 officer, what would happen to those officers who fucked that up, man?
00:37:48.120 See, at a level, they wouldn't even if there was if the evidence wasn't marked properly
00:37:52.480 at the scene where you were able to, you know, conclusively say this is the this is how
00:37:57.620 she walked.
00:37:58.200 We could tell from the blood pattern the shell casings are here, which means the firearm
00:38:01.800 was fired from here.
00:38:02.820 If you're not able to, you know, you know, ABC one, two, three, line that all the way up.
00:38:08.020 The prosecutor is not even indicting.
00:38:09.720 Um, you know what I mean?
00:38:11.840 Yep.
00:38:12.260 Yeah.
00:38:12.480 We're going to talk about that here in a second with our theories as far as like why they
00:38:15.540 indicted this case, why they decided to take this thing in the first place.
00:38:18.580 But, uh, but this is not the first time that, uh, the Los Angeles, uh, prosecutions
00:38:23.640 taken, uh, cases, a trial that they may have should have may, may have not should have.
00:38:30.060 Um, so anyway, so the defense goes after the, the, how the police marked the evidence at
00:38:36.860 the scene.
00:38:37.220 Okay.
00:38:37.520 Which, you know, is not a good thing.
00:38:39.160 Now the prosecution also, I want to say this, they use Tory's jail call where he's apologizing
00:38:45.460 profusely during the calls for, Hey, I was drunk.
00:38:48.580 I'm really sorry.
00:38:49.440 Blah, blah, blah.
00:38:50.120 Right.
00:38:50.720 Um, but the jail calls don't admit that he shot anybody.
00:38:54.580 Okay.
00:38:55.040 And the defense goes ahead and says, well, this could be him apologizing for putting Kelsey
00:38:58.920 on the spot about the sexual relations.
00:39:02.260 Exactly.
00:39:03.040 Boom.
00:39:03.700 Shot.
00:39:04.240 It could have been anything.
00:39:05.100 Right.
00:39:05.760 Yep.
00:39:06.100 And the other thing too, I want to let you guys know is the detective that brought this
00:39:10.380 jail recording in.
00:39:11.060 Cause typically when you bring in a jail recording or whatever, you have to bring an investigator
00:39:14.400 in to tell you, Hey, this is where I got it from.
00:39:16.460 This is how I seized this evidence.
00:39:17.520 This is where I got it from.
00:39:18.380 I'm sure the chain of custody, all this stuff.
00:39:20.060 The detective that brought it in had only listened to it a week or so prior to the trial.
00:39:25.880 He had never heard it prior.
00:39:27.460 Okay.
00:39:28.360 Which also I want to make you guys aware the lead detective on this investigation.
00:39:33.740 It's a guy named, uh, detective, um, Stogner.
00:39:38.280 Okay.
00:39:39.040 He's on admin leave and or getting terminated right now.
00:39:42.080 He's not testing.
00:39:43.800 Okay.
00:39:44.560 Which is a huge fucking.
00:39:49.400 So it's very obvious to me that the detective that they brought in, right.
00:39:53.260 To, uh, talk about this jail call, isn't the lead.
00:39:57.820 He was probably assigned this case out of emergency because the lead detective is in trouble.
00:40:02.800 Okay.
00:40:03.460 So anytime you have issues like this, where the lead investigator is being investigated or
00:40:07.860 there might get terminated or there's some kind of misconduct or whatever, this is a
00:40:11.120 big problem because this is the guy that's responsible for gathering all the evidence.
00:40:15.140 Okay.
00:40:15.420 Guys, anytime an investigation like this happens where there's a shooting, it's going to trial
00:40:19.360 or whatever, it's not the police officers that are gathering the evidence.
00:40:22.100 They show up to the scene, they kind of mark it off, whatever, but it's the detectives
00:40:26.080 that take lead in the investigation and run the case.
00:40:29.080 So the lead detective is responsible for getting all the witnesses, for getting all the evidence
00:40:32.620 together, for running the test through ballistics, for getting the experts together.
00:40:36.380 They're responsible for it.
00:40:37.920 So the fact that the lead detective is under investigation and may or may not get terminated
00:40:42.720 is a huge L for the prosecution.
00:40:45.660 Now here's the other thing too.
00:40:46.580 I want to let you guys know this comes from me preparing for a trial.
00:40:49.560 Now, when I had my trial, okay, the prosecutor gets every single witness and debriefs them
00:40:56.420 and prepares them for the trial.
00:40:58.160 And prior to him bringing in these witnesses, especially the law enforcement witnesses, they
00:41:02.060 ask, do any of you guys have Giglio issues?
00:41:05.300 What is a Giglio?
00:41:06.300 Well, Giglio guys, can you talk about it real quick?
00:41:08.860 Andrew, I'll pull it up for the people.
00:41:10.120 Yeah, sure.
00:41:10.500 Sure, sure.
00:41:10.800 Um, you know, that, that specific, well, actually, no, hold on.
00:41:15.080 Let me make sure I got this.
00:41:15.800 Giglio is basically when you have a character issue.
00:41:18.080 Okay.
00:41:18.660 Okay.
00:41:19.160 Yes.
00:41:19.420 Yes.
00:41:19.620 Yes.
00:41:19.780 So if you have a particular issue, that's going to be impeachable, right?
00:41:23.100 So you're going to be able to impeach you based on character.
00:41:25.020 They're going to see there's some sort of a problem with your credibility, right?
00:41:28.140 So you're going to have a credibility lapse.
00:41:29.960 So they're going to attack you on that because that's impeachment, right?
00:41:32.840 Once again, going back to the core point, finding out you're a lying piece of shit,
00:41:36.500 right?
00:41:37.080 And there's lots of reasons why you might lie.
00:41:39.880 And there's lots of reasons why, for example, when he goes back to the recording, the jailhouse
00:41:43.700 recording, what that pops up into my head, right?
00:41:46.360 Is yo, this fact that at the time of the, of the shooting, right?
00:41:50.900 And I'm putting that in air quotes, cause it's fucking alleged, right?
00:41:54.140 At the time this allegedly happened, they didn't know that they were both fucking the same
00:42:00.020 dude.
00:42:00.480 I think, I think Meg said that she knew that Harris like was like into, um, into Tory Lane
00:42:06.480 but they didn't know like, and Harris certainly didn't know that Meg was fucking, fucking
00:42:11.200 Tory Lanez.
00:42:11.860 So this is like, these are major issues.
00:42:14.300 They're major character issues.
00:42:15.360 So when you hear somebody apologizing, like that could just be like, yo, sorry, I was
00:42:19.700 fucking your girl.
00:42:20.300 And I didn't tell you, you know, by the way, that's what happens in the industry.
00:42:24.620 So whenever you have a trial, right, you as the lead investigator, you got to get all
00:42:28.300 the law enforcement personnel that's going to testify, which in this case, the lead
00:42:30.900 investigator himself is in trouble, which is a big problem.
00:42:33.600 A giggly or brady list is a list compiled usually by a prosecutor's office or a police
00:42:37.300 department containing the names and details of law enforcement officers who have had sustained
00:42:40.860 incidents of undruthfulness, criminal convictions, candor issues, or some other type of issue
00:42:45.660 placing their credibility into question.
00:42:47.100 And guys, when it says candor issues or, or like, um, you know, they call it a conduct
00:42:52.380 unbecoming a lot of the times.
00:42:54.300 Basically, if you get in trouble for some shit where, you know, you mishandled evidence
00:42:59.340 or you get into a domestic violence argument with your wife, or you go ahead and you, you
00:43:05.260 get in trouble, uh, where you get a DUI or you get any, any of this stuff, this all can
00:43:10.120 make you considered a bad witness for the government.
00:43:13.120 And the prosecutor might not put you on the stand.
00:43:15.360 Okay.
00:43:16.060 So, and this is what they do before every single trial where they ask questions, which
00:43:19.860 is probably why they disqualify this investigator where he's not going to testify.
00:43:22.620 But the fact that it's one thing, if a witness on the case, it has issues with, you know,
00:43:28.120 uh, Giglio or Brady or any of this other stuff, but when it's the lead investigator,
00:43:32.080 Oh man, that together.
00:43:35.140 And here's the thing, guys, it all goes back to due process.
00:43:37.480 Cause all like Giglio, Brady, all those cases, they go back to due process.
00:43:40.620 There's a duty on the prosecution to turn over all evidence to the defense that, uh, pretty
00:43:48.480 much proves the accused is innocent.
00:43:50.140 So if there's anything that proves the accused is innocent or reduces it, or, or, you know,
00:43:54.500 makes him look more innocent, they have to turn that over.
00:43:57.900 They've got a duty to do that.
00:43:59.620 So that's where this stems from.
00:44:01.000 They have to disclose.
00:44:02.200 There's a duty to disclose a duty of candor.
00:44:04.840 You have to be honest.
00:44:05.840 You can't be a dirty prosecutor.
00:44:07.600 Now, are there dirty prosecutors out there?
00:44:09.880 Abso fucking lootly.
00:44:11.460 I've seen them all the time.
00:44:12.940 There are dirty prosecutors out there.
00:44:14.440 However, on the books, on paper, you are supposed to do these things.
00:44:19.120 You're supposed to turn this over.
00:44:20.260 So that's why, uh, it's so important that you get your witnesses straight.
00:44:25.860 So, um, so the first day was all law enforcement.
00:44:28.840 So what do we got here?
00:44:29.640 So we know, uh, one of the police officers from the scene testified, they attacked, how
00:44:33.920 they carded off, according to off the area, how they marked the evidence.
00:44:36.860 The lead detective is under investigation, has Giglio and Brady issues.
00:44:41.320 They couldn't bring them on, um, which is a huge problem.
00:44:43.900 Right.
00:44:44.180 Um, and then, which I'm actually shocked that they even still went to trial with the lead
00:44:50.140 investigator being in trouble like this, that, that actually, I was very shocked because
00:44:54.460 normally when you have a Brady or Giglio issue with one of the witnesses, that in itself
00:44:57.840 is bad, but if the main lead detective to have it and have to be off the case, when he
00:45:02.620 probably dealt with a majority of the evidence, majority of the interviews, most of the, uh,
00:45:07.060 evidence, um, he gathered everything.
00:45:09.840 That's a problem.
00:45:11.260 So now we're going to go into day two.
00:45:14.340 Okay.
00:45:14.700 Did you have anything before I hit day two?
00:45:16.120 No, no.
00:45:16.440 Hit day two.
00:45:17.100 Run right into it.
00:45:17.860 So day two guys is Meg's testimony.
00:45:20.700 So Meg the stallion herself goes ahead and takes the stand.
00:45:25.380 Okay.
00:45:25.640 Now, since she's a prosecution's witness, prosecution hits her with the direct as like you guys said,
00:45:30.660 as you guys learned from Andrew before direct typically is more friendly.
00:45:34.460 They're a friendly witness.
00:45:36.100 They're going to ask some questions to get their side.
00:45:38.220 They want to get the entire story.
00:45:39.220 Now I also want to say this too.
00:45:40.300 And Andrew, I want you to time in on this.
00:45:42.160 Typically when witnesses like the, the witness that was the most affected, whether it was
00:45:45.600 someone that got shot, stabbed or whatever, their job is to go on the stand and make you
00:45:51.340 feel bad for them.
00:45:53.740 Their job is to appease at the heartstrings.
00:45:55.720 That's what they're going there to do.
00:45:57.260 They're there to cry.
00:45:58.180 They're there to kind of create this aura of look at me.
00:46:01.580 I'm the victim.
00:46:02.620 Feel sorry for me because you guys got to remember all of this is being done in front of a jury.
00:46:07.480 Okay.
00:46:07.840 Yes.
00:46:08.980 Boom.
00:46:09.720 That's it.
00:46:11.000 Go ahead.
00:46:11.560 And people do not like juries do not.
00:46:14.180 In general, if you said a random person off the street, do you like throwing people in
00:46:18.740 jail?
00:46:19.380 They're going to say, fuck no.
00:46:20.940 People do not like putting people in jail.
00:46:23.120 And you know what?
00:46:23.600 They don't like victimless crimes.
00:46:26.020 If the, and especially if the victim doesn't give a shit about the crime, they're like,
00:46:30.920 why are we putting someone in jail for this?
00:46:32.400 Why are we sending somebody to jail for this?
00:46:34.020 Our human nature is not to throw people in jail, despite what people may think.
00:46:39.240 It is not to throw people in jail.
00:46:40.880 And especially with a jury, you've got lots of different people.
00:46:43.640 Remember, there's a jury process.
00:46:45.300 There's jury selection.
00:46:46.460 So typically it's a pretty fair jury.
00:46:49.000 Maybe it's a little bit more defense bias or prosecution bias, but typically it's a pretty
00:46:53.900 fair jury.
00:46:55.160 So there's going to be some people that really don't want to convict on that.
00:46:58.460 Their inclination, their natural state is not to convict.
00:47:01.820 So if you get up there as a witness, as the person who's supposed to be injured and you're
00:47:05.760 not sympathetic or even worse, if you come off as a bitch, if you come off as a liar,
00:47:11.400 they're not going to be inclined to convict.
00:47:14.280 Yeah.
00:47:15.220 So keep that in mind, guys.
00:47:16.900 So, so go, they ask her on direct, you know, how long have you known Tori?
00:47:20.560 She says for a short amount of time.
00:47:21.820 And they ask her, did you have sex with Tori lanes?
00:47:26.760 And she says, yes.
00:47:28.500 Okay.
00:47:29.640 Finally, she says that she hooked up with Tori lanes, which if you guys don't know, okay.
00:47:34.740 And I'll share a screen with you guys real fast here.
00:47:37.280 Okay.
00:47:38.380 Because that's not what she said a couple of months ago when she went on this interview
00:47:43.420 with Gail.
00:47:44.840 Okay.
00:47:46.240 So we'll go ahead and play it real quick.
00:47:47.820 I think I had it right here in this interview, guys.
00:47:51.700 They asked her, did you have sex with Tori?
00:47:54.500 And she basically.
00:47:56.500 Dating.
00:47:57.080 What was the nature?
00:47:58.040 Okay.
00:47:58.400 So what was the nature?
00:47:59.300 We're not dating.
00:48:00.200 We were really close.
00:48:01.700 We were friends.
00:48:02.600 We hung out.
00:48:03.300 Uh-huh.
00:48:04.280 And his mom passed too.
00:48:06.480 So when I felt like we were bonding over that.
00:48:10.700 And.
00:48:11.260 Did you have an intimate relationship with him?
00:48:13.560 Oh, okay.
00:48:14.760 Look at her eyes.
00:48:15.780 Look at her eyes, Byron.
00:48:16.800 Read that fucking body language.
00:48:18.740 Look at that.
00:48:19.620 Look at that shit.
00:48:20.620 I want y'all to pay attention to what she says.
00:48:22.780 Did you guys have a sexual relationship?
00:48:24.660 Okay.
00:48:25.000 This is what she says.
00:48:26.440 Like sexual?
00:48:27.600 Yeah.
00:48:27.900 Yeah.
00:48:28.180 Did you?
00:48:28.740 Yeah.
00:48:29.540 Stupid.
00:48:30.220 Yeah, sexual.
00:48:31.420 Did you?
00:48:32.200 Megan.
00:48:32.620 Did you have a sexual relationship with Tori Lange?
00:48:35.180 Yes.
00:48:35.620 That is a direct question, my friends.
00:48:37.620 Okay.
00:48:38.400 And she.
00:48:39.140 Look at her body language.
00:48:39.960 She's looking away.
00:48:41.160 She's closing her eyes.
00:48:42.860 She's looking down.
00:48:44.660 She.
00:48:44.980 This is.
00:48:45.380 This is.
00:48:45.940 This is some bullshit right here.
00:48:47.760 This is some bullshit.
00:48:49.140 And what does she say?
00:48:50.500 Christian.
00:48:51.460 Um.
00:48:52.740 Um.
00:48:53.180 Didn't have a sexual relationship with Tori.
00:48:55.720 So what?
00:48:56.080 Bruh.
00:48:56.760 Stop the cap.
00:49:00.640 You know, she only counts it as sexual if it's, like, in the poop shoot.
00:49:04.020 I, like, I don't know, like, what is, like, like, like, what is she trying to define here?
00:49:07.820 You know, it's a whole, like, a blowjob isn't sex, you know?
00:49:10.180 Like, you know, if I, if I only have sex with them wearing a condom that doesn't count, it wasn't sexual.
00:49:14.620 Like, come the fuck on.
00:49:16.160 When she said bonding.
00:49:17.740 When she said bonding, it was clear they were fucking.
00:49:20.540 It was clear.
00:49:21.340 I mean, Myron, this is the perfect point.
00:49:23.680 You know, when you got these thought crimes out here, you can call this shit right away.
00:49:28.640 You see this lying.
00:49:30.140 You see, you know it.
00:49:31.300 And by the way, why wouldn't she own it?
00:49:33.240 She owns the lot.
00:49:34.260 Why wouldn't she just say, yo, I'm fucking this dude.
00:49:36.140 Like, how does that hurt her?
00:49:37.820 I don't know, like, from, from, you know, the other thing that, like, boggles my mind.
00:49:43.380 If I was the prosecutor, right, on this case, I would tell her, don't talk about this investigation anywhere.
00:49:54.900 Like, I am shocked that she actually gave an interview and talked about the case on a national television show.
00:50:03.620 Incredible.
00:50:05.020 Like, like, what?
00:50:06.680 I mean, yo, what would you say?
00:50:09.320 This is admissible, by the way.
00:50:11.000 This is admissible.
00:50:12.400 What would you do if you were the prosecutor?
00:50:14.260 Like, would you be shocked that, yo, your, your star witness goes on a television show and says all this stuff about an active investigation that's going to go to trial, right?
00:50:25.000 And then on top of that, she, she gives contradictory statements on a television show versus in trial.
00:50:37.280 Incredible, guys.
00:50:38.100 So she goes on trial and she pretty much contradicts herself and says, yes, we did have a sexual relationship, right?
00:50:45.960 And everyone in the audience is like, oh, shit, because this is the first time she's actually admitted that she hooked up with Tori because she didn't want to say it for all these months for obvious reasons.
00:50:54.420 She didn't want to hurt her image.
00:50:55.740 She didn't want to look like a whore, et cetera.
00:50:58.080 And now that it's all coming out in the trial, and we've talked about this on Fresh to Fit, guys, all the guys that she's hooked up with because this kind of came into her sexual past and her testimony.
00:51:07.380 How long is that list, Myron?
00:51:08.700 I'm just curious.
00:51:09.600 How long is that list for Megan Thee Stallion?
00:51:11.120 I'm sure it's like fucking going on like legal-sized paper, you know.
00:51:15.060 I should point it up, I think, 10 different celebrities is what Fresh counted.
00:51:19.280 When we were on the show, if I recall correctly, because we broke this down on Fresh to Fit.
00:51:22.440 If you guys want to go ahead and break that down, we're keeping this on the legal side.
00:51:24.620 But this all came out during her testimony, how many people she was hooking up with.
00:51:29.560 But we know the baby, Tori Lanes, and Ben Simmons were some of the prominent ones that came out during this trial.
00:51:35.040 But it's relevant.
00:51:35.760 See, the thing is, this is the crossover, right?
00:51:37.600 Because it's relevant as to her motives and as to her credibility.
00:51:40.480 Like, these things are relevant.
00:51:41.980 If she's known to be a person who does this, she's known to have a past with other celebrities, why did she choose to lie about this one in specific?
00:51:50.260 Why is she lying here?
00:51:52.500 It doesn't make any sense.
00:51:54.620 I mean, if I was the defense, I would play this clip and be like, you can't believe her.
00:51:58.140 Like, what the, you know?
00:51:59.600 But, so anyway, so she admits that she had sex with Tori, right?
00:52:03.540 Then they ask her about Kelsey.
00:52:05.180 She's been friends with Kelsey since freshman year of college.
00:52:07.680 So they've known each other for a while.
00:52:10.220 She got to the party first.
00:52:11.480 She says that there were a lot of people there, okay?
00:52:13.480 And she said she invited Tori after the fact.
00:52:16.980 Then, at the end of the party, it was just her, Kelsey, and Kylie Jenner, all right?
00:52:22.620 She said it got late.
00:52:23.780 She wanted to leave because her wig was coming off, okay?
00:52:26.800 And I'm not, yes, guys, that is what she said, all right?
00:52:29.920 She felt comfortable.
00:52:30.660 She wanted to go home.
00:52:31.280 So, she didn't want, Tori, however, didn't want to leave, all right?
00:52:37.120 So, they left and they argued in the car, all right?
00:52:42.620 And the argument ensued after Tori says, why are you snaking your friend, okay?
00:52:48.700 And that's when Tori drops the bombshell that him and Megan had been hooking up, okay?
00:52:54.340 So, everyone's arguing in the car, or she says a fight occurs, right?
00:52:59.920 Then, she says, she gets out, looks back, and sees Tori shout, dance, bitch, and then he shoots.
00:53:08.400 So, he says, dance, bitch, and then she looks back and she sees him.
00:53:11.860 She, however, did not see Kelsey, only Tori.
00:53:16.060 And then, she says, Tori was shooting over the window from the driver's side.
00:53:21.200 May have been standing on something.
00:53:22.520 Now, just for reference purposes, guys, Tori is somewhere between 5'3 to 5'6, okay?
00:53:28.420 So, he's not that tall.
00:53:30.180 Escalade is a big-ass car, okay?
00:53:33.600 So, that was a little strange.
00:53:35.500 It didn't make too much sense.
00:53:36.600 And then, also, there's a discrepancy here because keep in mind, guys, when the prosecutor illustrated the story in opening statements,
00:53:42.920 they said Kelsey went to Meg after she was shot, okay?
00:53:49.340 And then, Tori approached after, beat on Kelsey, which is why her chain and her nail fell off, as he was trying to get back to Meg after he shot her.
00:53:59.900 But Meg said she got shot and then Tori and Kelsey came at her together, which there's, you know, which one is it, right?
00:54:09.200 And then, also, they asked her, why didn't you go to the police before?
00:54:13.220 Why did you lie and say that you stepped on glass?
00:54:15.420 And she said she didn't want to go to police before because of the George Floyd protests because, as you guys know, we talked about the George Floyd case as well.
00:54:22.300 Back in May of 2020, in case you guys were living under a rock in the United States here, George Floyd had been killed in Milwaukee?
00:54:29.520 No, no, Minneapolis, excuse me, in Minneapolis, and he got killed, and there was a bunch of race riots all over the United States at that time.
00:54:39.020 This only occurred about two months after, so she did it to protect Tori from getting killed, and she was scared of the police.
00:54:44.900 That's why she didn't go to the police and tell the story straight in the beginning is what she says.
00:54:48.440 Well, and the thing, but that's kind of, I'm calling bullshit on that because here's the thing.
00:54:53.220 This is, that's complete bullshit because she was literally interviewed by police and gave answers, so instead of lying during that interview by police, because she did talk to police, so her being scared of police is fucking irrelevant completely to her lying on the police report.
00:55:12.120 If you want to pull that, I don't know if you still got that one up, her statement that she gave for the police report, and so she was sitting in front of a cop.
00:55:20.620 And by the way, that cop didn't kill her.
00:55:23.560 That cop was perfectly fine with her, let her go, had a nice day, walked out just fine, right?
00:55:29.300 So right here.
00:55:31.160 I have a highlighter for you.
00:55:32.440 Yep.
00:55:33.100 Pete was transported to Cedars.
00:55:34.240 Go ahead.
00:55:35.100 No, no, no, no.
00:55:35.980 Okay, okay.
00:55:36.500 Pete was transported to Cedars-Syanide.
00:55:37.860 By the way, it's the best hospital in LA.
00:55:41.300 For lacerations to her left foot, while at the hospital, Pete advised Officer Gomez and Majiha that she was involved in a verbal argument with Harris.
00:55:48.120 She stated that Smith, Peterson, and Harris herself left the location.
00:55:51.240 She did not give officers a specific location and did not give any other information regarding the incident.
00:55:57.080 But she was right in front of the cops, and boom.
00:56:02.480 You know, she said that, hey, there's a verbal argument here.
00:56:06.460 Mm-hmm.
00:56:06.700 And I believe it goes down to say that her, right there, up there, right there, in the middle.
00:56:13.960 Injuries, an MT.
00:56:15.280 Pete was transported to Cedars-Syanide and was treated by Dr. Lafredo for lacerations on her left foot.
00:56:20.940 Dr. Lafredo confirmed the laceration due to stepping on glass.
00:56:25.500 Yep.
00:56:26.280 That's big.
00:56:27.500 That's big right there.
00:56:28.580 So you got a doctor.
00:56:29.420 This is the presumptive cause.
00:56:31.440 Until now, until just now, the presumptive cause was stepping on glass.
00:56:37.180 Yep.
00:56:37.460 And at no point did Meg correct the doctor on that and say, no, doc, this is me getting shot.
00:56:43.680 Yeah.
00:56:44.280 Yep.
00:56:44.620 Because she said I stepped on glass, and then the doctor actually confirmed it because he said there was lacerations, which you want to tell the people real quick as far as like.
00:56:52.360 Yeah, so, yeah, laceration typically means something like a cut or some damage to the skin.
00:56:57.580 It does not mean gunshot wound.
00:56:59.700 If there was a gunshot wound, they would clearly label that, like that she had a gunshot wound to her left foot.
00:57:06.700 They would have made that very, very clear in the police report.
00:57:10.340 The doctor would have made that clear if there's a gunshot wound.
00:57:13.260 I mean, y'all have seen the TV shows where they're like, I got a gunshot wound.
00:57:15.720 Don't take me to a hospital.
00:57:17.120 Yeah.
00:57:17.580 Because they don't want it to go down as gunshot wound because they track that shit closely because it matters.
00:57:22.760 And don't worry, guys.
00:57:23.540 We'll talk about – because a doctor did testify at the trial, so don't worry.
00:57:27.060 But this is the original police report that we're talking about, and I'll cover that as well.
00:57:31.160 I think he testified on day five, but we're on day two right now.
00:57:34.180 So, okay.
00:57:34.920 So now that we covered Meg on direct, here's Meg on cross, okay?
00:57:40.680 So on cross, guys – oh, my bad.
00:57:44.020 On cross, which, as you guys remember, cross-examination means the defense is now asking Meg questions, which means they're not going to be as nice for her.
00:57:51.720 Okay.
00:57:52.320 Which is, by the way, not hard because she's clearly lied at this point.
00:57:55.960 So their job is actually kind of easy with Meg because she's already been out there and lying.
00:58:00.340 She's already made contradictory statements.
00:58:01.680 So she tells the defense she denied – she denied Kylie told her to leave.
00:58:06.800 Security didn't want to leave, but she admitted that she wanted to leave with Tori, right?
00:58:11.440 So she kind of contradicted herself.
00:58:13.420 She denied Kelsey and Tori had a relationship to a degree.
00:58:17.880 However, she admitted that Kelsey did confront her in the vehicle about said relationship.
00:58:23.380 Then when she asked about the snaking comment, right, with as far as, like, her having sex with other dudes, she just said, I don't know, right, for, you know, embarrassment reasons, I'm sure, right?
00:58:34.300 And then Meg was in the front passenger seat, gets out of the car, walks in front of the vehicle, and then this is what she said happened.
00:58:42.380 So just so you guys know what the seating arrangement was in the vehicle prior to the shooting, you got the security guy in the front – well, I think it was Tori's security.
00:58:52.080 Then you have Meg the stallion in the front seat, front passenger seat.
00:58:57.020 Then you have Kelsey directly behind her, and Tori was behind – was to the left of Kelsey.
00:59:02.940 So Tori was sitting behind the driver.
00:59:05.140 So one more time because you got – this is very important, guys.
00:59:07.800 Security is driving.
00:59:09.580 Meg is in the front seat.
00:59:10.780 Meg the stallion's in the front seat.
00:59:11.820 Where the gun was found, by the way, Kelsey is behind her, and then Tori is in the back seat behind the driver.
00:59:20.660 So Meg exits the vehicle, and she's saying this under oath to the defense.
00:59:24.560 She says she gets out the vehicle, right, and Tori gets out of the front passenger – out of the back seat behind the driver, gets around the vehicle,
00:59:38.340 goes into the front passenger seat, gets into the front passenger seat, gets a gun, and shoots her, okay?
00:59:44.860 And she said this all happened in a matter of seconds because when she gets out of the vehicle, she walks in front of the vehicle, and then she's directly in front,
00:59:50.500 and then she hears – dance, bitch, looks back, and she says Tori is shooting at her over the glass, okay?
00:59:58.820 And she wasn't sure if she was standing on the car, and she wasn't sure if she was standing on something.
01:00:01.320 Now, guys, mind you, from a logical standpoint, right, that's pretty quick for him to get out the car, run around, pull the gun out, which was in the front seat,
01:00:14.040 point it at her, dance bits, and shoot.
01:00:16.600 And also, she said that Kelsey at this point is still in the car, or she didn't know where she was, but she didn't see her around, okay?
01:00:27.540 So –
01:00:27.660 It's very hard to believe those facts.
01:00:30.000 And once again, this goes back to why facts are important.
01:00:32.060 Like when you start trying to make shit up, you know, and you start to be like this guy did this, this, and this, and this in like the span of a couple seconds,
01:00:38.440 you're like, all right, I'm calling bullshit on that.
01:00:40.120 It needs to be something that people are going to believe.
01:00:41.860 You need to have a credible story that people are going to believe actually happened.
01:00:45.640 And then the other thing I also want to say is she denied that her and Kelsey had an altercation, right?
01:00:52.140 But there was jewelry on the finger and a fingernail on the floor, right?
01:00:55.960 And this all occurred in a few seconds, all right, of her getting out the vehicle and walking in front and then her getting shot at, right?
01:01:04.240 So there's some discrepancies here, of course.
01:01:07.980 Let's see here.
01:01:08.560 Let me just make sure.
01:01:10.120 Okay.
01:01:10.340 So now that we went over – so Meg's testimony pretty much finished there, right?
01:01:15.720 And she gave heartfelt testimony saying she got shot at.
01:01:18.940 You know, she wished she had died instead versus going through all this stuff.
01:01:22.860 And, you know, she did her job.
01:01:24.280 Her job is to go up there, kind of, you know, take the victim narrative, get the jury to feel for her.
01:01:30.560 That's what you got to do in a trial, guys.
01:01:32.020 You know, it is what it is.
01:01:32.780 And obviously the prosecution is going to prepare her for this, right?
01:01:37.160 So now we get it to day three.
01:01:40.560 This is where it just starts to get crazy, all right?
01:01:42.920 Anything you want to say, Andrew, before I get into day three?
01:01:45.200 No, no.
01:01:45.700 I mean, once again, you've seen a story that's constructed that's looking bad.
01:01:49.540 So the prosecution's chase.
01:01:50.820 We're on day fucking two.
01:01:52.740 And usually it takes a couple days for the prosecution to fall apart, but they're already hurting at this point.
01:01:57.460 This is not looking good.
01:01:58.800 Always imagine what a jury is thinking as they're watching this shit.
01:02:03.200 Are they saying, is this believable or not believable?
01:02:05.800 Can I get behind this or not?
01:02:07.340 And the prosecution, if they don't start out strong, they're going to lose that jury quick.
01:02:12.000 Yep.
01:02:12.960 Now, guys, real quick, before I get into this, I'll go ahead and give you guys a quick recap.
01:02:16.500 Well, we got 5,000 plus of you guys watching.
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01:02:24.680 So let me give you guys a recap for some of you guys that are just showing this in the show.
01:02:30.400 So we went over the intro.
01:02:31.420 We went over our qualifications, our background.
01:02:33.400 As you guys know, I used to be a special agent with Homeland Security.
01:02:36.080 Done trials.
01:02:37.160 Went to trial on one of my own cases.
01:02:38.860 And I've also been a part of several trials.
01:02:40.960 Testified many times.
01:02:42.400 Andrew, practicing attorney, understands the rules and procedures of how the law works, etc.
01:02:47.560 He's litigated before.
01:02:48.780 Unlike a lot of you attorneys that call yourselves lawyers, you guys have never stepped in a courtroom and actually litigated, which means argue a case.
01:02:54.620 We went over the days of the trial.
01:02:56.380 Day one was opening statements.
01:02:57.760 We broke down what an opening statement is.
01:02:59.660 The prosecution went up there, said, hey, dance, bitch.
01:03:02.920 And they went over how Tory is culpable.
01:03:05.680 He shot Meg five times.
01:03:08.100 There was an argument.
01:03:09.280 Kelsey was assaulted by Tory during the process of this.
01:03:12.280 And they said that Kelsey is going to go ahead and testify on behalf of the state.
01:03:16.800 Then the defense went up there and they said that Kelsey was the shooter.
01:03:21.880 They theorized that she is the shooter.
01:03:23.560 They said that there's not enough evidence to go ahead and go after Tory.
01:03:26.400 And there's residue on Kelsey.
01:03:28.480 And it's not clear that Tory was actually the shooter.
01:03:31.400 And this is an opening statement.
01:03:32.400 It's day one.
01:03:33.360 The police basically it's all law enforcement that goes on day one.
01:03:37.400 The defense, you know, is able to go ahead and attack the police's evidence saying, hey, you guys didn't properly mark the blood, the bullets and everything else at the crime scene.
01:03:46.840 So there's no clear path of what the hell actually happened, who was where, when the shots were fired, et cetera.
01:03:53.740 And, you know, as you guys can see, we got this testimony that's all over the place because all three parties were drunk.
01:03:59.060 Right.
01:03:59.520 And the evidence is at the scene wasn't properly documented.
01:04:02.360 So defense attacks him on that.
01:04:03.840 Prosecution kind of counters.
01:04:04.760 Hey, we got a jail call where Tory is apologizing profusely for for the for the shooting.
01:04:11.260 But the defense comes in and says, well, we don't necessarily know what he's apologizing about.
01:04:15.000 Keep in mind that Tory had outed Meg for having sex with a bunch of guys that Kelsey had hooked up with in the past.
01:04:21.520 And this was a lover's feud.
01:04:23.480 Then on day two, Meg the Stein takes the stand.
01:04:27.740 She says basically that she finally admits that her and Tory had a sexual relationship.
01:04:32.220 She says that her and Kelsey did not have an altercation.
01:04:36.320 She says that the argument was predominantly with her and Tory.
01:04:40.300 She also says that she got she got she heard she walked in front of the vehicle and Tory got out of the vehicle, got into the front passenger side area where she was originally sitting.
01:04:50.800 A gun comes out of somewhere.
01:04:52.740 He yells dance, bitch.
01:04:53.820 She looks back, sees him shoot.
01:04:55.760 But at this time, she did not see Kelsey shoot.
01:04:58.080 OK.
01:04:58.440 Which kind of contradicts the prosecution story, because they're saying that the prosecutor said that Kelsey went to Meg after she was shot, which the story is kind of all over the place.
01:05:11.360 So, yeah, you see, this is the problem.
01:05:13.080 We're creating two different stories here.
01:05:14.560 Like there's two different narratives or two different timelines.
01:05:17.240 There's people that are involved, people that are not involved.
01:05:19.440 And this is how, you know, OK, one of two things is happening here.
01:05:23.200 Either somebody is lying or memory, which is very true.
01:05:26.740 This does happen in trials after two years is kind of suspect.
01:05:31.100 They're either remembering it wildly wrong or somebody fucking lying.
01:05:34.860 And then on Meg on cross, basically what the police was, what the defense was able to gather was Meg denies that the altercation was there on cross.
01:05:46.260 However, even though there was jewelry and fingernails on the floor and then they're able to assess that Meg walked in front of the vehicle.
01:05:53.320 She heard dance, bitch, get shot five times.
01:05:56.500 And she said claims that Tori was sitting in the back passenger seat and this all happened within a matter of seconds.
01:06:04.720 OK, so that's the story from Meg's side.
01:06:08.480 Right now, or a summary.
01:06:11.500 Now we're going to get into day three of the trial.
01:06:13.180 All right, guys.
01:06:14.080 Now, Kelsey takes a stand.
01:06:16.240 OK, and who is Kelsey?
01:06:17.280 Kelsey is Meg's assistant slash best friend.
01:06:22.600 And keep in mind, guys, that she's a prosecution's witness.
01:06:25.060 So as we discussed before, when the when a prosecutor prosecutor's witness comes up, prosecution gets first crack at them on direct.
01:06:33.060 So as soon as Kelsey sits in the chair, she goes ahead and takes the Fifth Amendment.
01:06:38.060 One, two, three, four.
01:06:39.500 Fifth.
01:06:40.100 Yeah.
01:06:40.580 Now, Myron, Myron, I think you've got the Fifth Amendment pulled up, my friends.
01:06:45.220 Let's give everybody a little quick refresher on the Fifth Amendment.
01:06:48.040 Yeah.
01:06:48.420 So the Fifth Amendment is stemmed in our Constitution.
01:06:52.760 Yes, it is.
01:06:53.380 It's a great and great, great, great, great amendment.
01:06:57.220 Right.
01:06:58.160 All right.
01:06:58.680 So you've got the Fifth Amendment here.
01:07:00.360 You know, no person.
01:07:01.400 Hold on.
01:07:01.680 Let me blow this up here.
01:07:02.700 There we go.
01:07:03.100 OK.
01:07:03.440 No person shall be held to answer for capital or otherwise infamous crimes unless a presentation or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the naval land or naval force or in the militia.
01:07:13.960 So when actual service or time of war danger, by the way, that's why military does not play by the same rules as people not in the military.
01:07:20.280 They don't have the same rights.
01:07:21.580 Nor shall any person be subject to the same offense to be put twice in jeopardy of life or limb.
01:07:26.680 That's double jeopardy.
01:07:27.800 You cannot be charged the same crime twice.
01:07:30.520 But by the way, it only applies to each particular jurisdiction.
01:07:34.640 So a state and the federal government can charge you with the same crime, but a state can't do it twice.
01:07:40.140 Nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself.
01:07:44.460 Boom.
01:07:44.780 There it is.
01:07:45.480 So the fifth that we're talking about, there's a lot of rights in here.
01:07:48.300 But the fifth we're talking about is you cannot be compelled to testify against yourself.
01:07:54.780 What does that mean?
01:07:55.700 If what you are saying is going to force you, if saying something in court is going to implicate yourself and open you up to a potential crime, you can plead the fifth.
01:08:07.820 Bam.
01:08:08.820 And mind you, there's a lot of different crimes you can be opened up to.
01:08:11.940 Even, for example, perjury.
01:08:14.600 Right?
01:08:15.200 Perjury is something you can be opened up to.
01:08:17.220 Absolutely.
01:08:18.300 So you just say, hey, listen, if this is something that can get me in trouble, if this is something that you guys can come and come after me for, I'm pleading the fifth.
01:08:25.860 Now, Myron, as an LEO, what do they typically offer their own witnesses when they need to plead the fifth?
01:08:33.480 What do they do?
01:08:34.060 What do they throw out there as a bone?
01:08:35.700 Now, they go ahead and they offer her immunity.
01:08:39.680 Okay, guys?
01:08:40.900 Which, let me tell you guys, and I want to make this very clear.
01:08:44.060 If you're the government and your witness gets on the stand and says, I'm taking the fifth, that is fucking crazy to me.
01:08:53.040 Because when you have a witness for trial, guys, you prep your witness.
01:08:57.200 You get them ready.
01:08:57.840 Okay, this is the testimony that we're going to, you know, hear the questions.
01:09:02.560 Here's what the defense is probably going to ask you on cross, et cetera.
01:09:05.320 You got to prepare your witness because you guys got to remember that regular witnesses don't understand how the judicial process works.
01:09:10.500 They don't understand how questions work.
01:09:12.840 They don't understand the severity of lying under oath.
01:09:14.760 You have to explain all these things to them before trial.
01:09:17.980 So the fact that she was a prosecution's witness and took the fifth, I was like, what the fuck is going on here?
01:09:24.700 Like, that's unheard of.
01:09:26.600 Okay?
01:09:27.300 So she takes the fifth.
01:09:29.620 So the prosecutor offers her something called use immunity.
01:09:34.940 Okay?
01:09:35.240 Let's explain those differences because there's different types of immunity.
01:09:37.560 Use immunity is under 18 U.S.C. 6002.
01:09:42.440 But Myron, what is the difference between use immunity and the other type of immunity, which is transactional immunity?
01:09:47.860 So the use immunity, guys, right, is when they basically can't use anything that you say in the testimony you're about to give against you, all right, particular to that testimony, right?
01:10:01.780 They can't use any of the statements you make against you in that particular testimony.
01:10:06.020 Transactional, though, covers you even more.
01:10:08.140 And that's basically they can't charge you with anything on that crime on that day, essentially.
01:10:12.560 It's kind of like almost like a full protection.
01:10:15.520 Now, just so y'all know, this happened in the middle of the trial.
01:10:19.200 And the prosecutor gets caught with his pants down.
01:10:21.280 So he's like, what the hell are we going to do?
01:10:22.640 So they have a sidebar, which do you want to explain to them?
01:10:25.320 Yeah, so sidebars, you go talk.
01:10:26.740 The lawyers come up.
01:10:27.680 The judge comes up.
01:10:28.420 You talk about it, right?
01:10:29.560 But you're not in presence of the jury because it's stuff the jury doesn't really want to hear.
01:10:32.840 And by the way, this looks really fucking horrible because they did see, the jury did see her plead the fifth.
01:10:38.000 They got her up on the stand.
01:10:39.600 She gets there, sits her ass down.
01:10:41.060 She pleads the fifth.
01:10:42.080 That looks horrible to a jury.
01:10:44.080 That looks absolutely insane to a jury.
01:10:46.960 And they're going to understand that there had to be some wrangling to get her back in.
01:10:50.060 It's not a good look.
01:10:51.340 It's really a bomb against the prosecution.
01:10:54.720 And so when they're going up there and they're doing a sidebar, they're negotiating this out, saying, hey, we're going to offer her this.
01:11:00.300 You know, we're going to move on with this because otherwise, if they didn't offer her that and think she was going to change her testimony, she's got to get off the stand.
01:11:07.700 That's it.
01:11:08.420 They can't have her up there just pleading the fifth.
01:11:10.560 Yeah.
01:11:10.740 And she's done.
01:11:11.680 You cannot do that.
01:11:12.800 You can't put somebody back on the stand unless you know they're going to accept immunity.
01:11:16.220 They're going to proceed.
01:11:16.900 To the sidebar, we're saying, look, we're offering immunity.
01:11:18.960 And one clear thing.
01:11:21.520 Let me just explain this very quick about the use of immunity.
01:11:24.840 So they may not be able to use your testimony, but you know what they can do?
01:11:29.060 They can go out and find other evidence that you committed that crime and use it against you.
01:11:34.300 That's why you should always, if you're ever in this situation, and I hope you're never in this situation, but you should always go for that higher level so they can't actually charge you with the crime.
01:11:45.180 Because they can go and say, oh, no, we're not using your court testimony.
01:11:48.100 We're just using your text message and your emails and the stuff we found over here and these other witnesses that we found over here.
01:11:53.560 Oh, we're not using the testimony.
01:11:54.780 We don't need that.
01:11:55.360 We're going to use this other stuff to get you.
01:11:56.760 And I'm really glad you said that because if you do get the use of immunity, and we've done this before on proffers, right, especially like when you're debriefing an informant and they're protected for what they say, a lot of the times if you lie, right, when you get that protection, they're going to come after you.
01:12:11.180 And what you've essentially done is, though they can't use that testimony against you, you give them a good point to go ahead and subpoena certain things, maybe get a search warrant here, get a search warrant there, or request it, get a witness here, get a witness there.
01:12:23.140 And they can build a case around that evidence that you gave, even though they can't use that particular testimony against you, they can find corroborating factors to come after you later on, which is why her attorney, after she said, I plead the fifth, and they said, we'll give you immunity, he argued, use immunity is not enough because he knows this.
01:12:39.780 They can still use this against her and come back later on and get corroborating factors to come after her.
01:12:44.500 So he says, I want transactional immunity.
01:12:46.480 Well, I'll tell you guys right now that ADA can't sign off on transactional immunity.
01:12:52.940 That's got to go up to the highest level.
01:12:54.420 That's the district attorney that's got to sign off on something like that because that's essentially protection from everything.
01:12:59.120 Okay.
01:12:59.860 So since they're sitting there in the trial, they need the testimony.
01:13:02.400 They don't got time like that to go back to the fucking DA and be like, yo, I need a transactional immunity approval, blah, blah, blah.
01:13:08.100 Then you've got to ask permission from the judge to delay the case.
01:13:10.920 And the judge is going to be like, nope, we got to go.
01:13:12.780 They might allow you to move the witness later, but they're not going to let you delay the trial.
01:13:18.060 Nine out of ten times, they're going to say, yo, we're moving.
01:13:20.280 This is on the docket.
01:13:21.060 We're going now.
01:13:21.980 You cannot delay this trial.
01:13:23.180 We're in.
01:13:23.640 So you either got to drop that witness or figure this shit out, right?
01:13:26.860 And they don't have time to do that.
01:13:28.760 So they go on the record and they say, we will not prosecute her, which is pretty damn good.
01:13:33.240 They go on the record and say, we will not prosecute her.
01:13:35.000 She has immunity.
01:13:36.420 And, you know, they're on the record saying that.
01:13:39.180 So Kelsey's like, okay, and she decides to testify, all right?
01:13:44.160 So because remember, guys, you can only take the fifth when you're going to be prosecuted.
01:13:48.900 But if you're not going to get prosecuted, you are compelled to testify now because you no longer have the fear or the potential to be went after or charged.
01:13:58.380 So she has immunity now.
01:14:00.100 So with that immunity, now she is compelled to testify, all right?
01:14:03.820 And I also want to say this, too.
01:14:06.540 You can only take the fifth if you're criminally culpable of something.
01:14:10.940 So the fact that she took the fifth, I mean, that's pretty self-explanatory in itself, right?
01:14:19.020 You know.
01:14:19.820 You know.
01:14:20.420 And she's not on trial here.
01:14:21.740 Remember, this is not the trial of Harris.
01:14:23.440 This is the trial of Tory Lane.
01:14:25.300 Which is great.
01:14:29.160 Yo, this is wild.
01:14:30.580 But anyway, so she goes, I don't want to be here, right?
01:14:33.920 And she's triggered.
01:14:35.180 And they say, why?
01:14:36.200 And she said, because of lies for Megan.
01:14:38.920 And, you know, basically she says, I never took any hush money.
01:14:42.180 And Meg is trying to say I'm a bad friend.
01:14:44.680 Then they asked her, did you shoot Meg?
01:14:46.540 And she goes, no.
01:14:49.020 How'd you meet Tory?
01:14:49.860 She said she met him at a Roc Nation event.
01:14:51.460 But she said that Meg hooked her up with Tory.
01:14:57.500 And then Kelsey, Meg hooked Kelsey up with Tory.
01:15:01.280 And then Kelsey got COVID and went to Texas.
01:15:03.980 As you guys know, her and Meg the Stallion are from Texas.
01:15:06.980 And then Meg started smashing Tory while she was away in Texas sick with COVID.
01:15:12.600 Now, this is all unbeknownst to her, by the way.
01:15:17.860 Okay?
01:15:18.080 She did not know any of this stuff was going on.
01:15:20.620 So, she also says that they were really drunk.
01:15:23.080 And that it wasn't a big party, as Meg had stated in her testimony.
01:15:26.500 It was a small party.
01:15:28.540 Tory didn't want to leave because he was flirting with Kylie.
01:15:31.260 Okay?
01:15:31.940 And then she also says that they got there around 3 p.m.
01:15:33.880 So, they had been there all day.
01:15:36.500 And they left first.
01:15:37.760 So, this is interesting because Meg didn't say this in her testimony.
01:15:40.520 But Kelsey says in her testimony that they left first.
01:15:43.820 Meg and Kelsey left.
01:15:45.660 But then they went back because Meg was mad.
01:15:49.160 And she wasn't too happy about Tory and Kylie.
01:15:51.600 So, she goes ahead and says, yo, I left my slipper at the spot.
01:15:54.660 So, they go back to Kylie's house.
01:15:56.740 Kelsey's in the car.
01:15:57.980 Meg goes inside.
01:15:59.380 Short time later, she comes out with Tory.
01:16:01.400 And Kylie's escorting them out.
01:16:03.220 Okay?
01:16:03.520 And Kelsey says that Meg told her that Kylie basically kicked them out.
01:16:10.240 All right?
01:16:11.180 Then they get in the vehicle.
01:16:12.640 And at this point, all three of them are arguing with each other.
01:16:15.720 And everyone's intoxicated.
01:16:17.000 So, you guys can only imagine, right?
01:16:18.640 So, Tory was trying to get it on with Kylie.
01:16:21.140 He's got to come out.
01:16:22.640 He got kicked out.
01:16:24.020 They're arguing.
01:16:25.100 And then Tory, right, drops the bomb.
01:16:28.440 Yo, you're snaking your friend.
01:16:31.300 Blah, blah, blah.
01:16:31.980 And Kelsey, did you know that I was fucked with Meg?
01:16:36.280 Meg fucked with Ben Simmons.
01:16:37.720 She fucked with the baby, who Kelsey had also messed with as well.
01:16:40.820 Which is all facts.
01:16:41.940 That part is facts.
01:16:43.120 Yes.
01:16:43.820 So, Kelsey, guys, had never heard this information before.
01:16:47.940 So, now everybody's arguing.
01:16:50.060 All right?
01:16:50.700 So, she gets the – someone's in the chat said, poor driver.
01:16:53.520 Yeah, poor driver, bro.
01:16:55.540 How are you having to be there for that bomb when you realize, like,
01:16:58.140 your bestie is fucking the dude that she puts you with, right?
01:17:02.300 And when she suddenly – she sets you up with this dude.
01:17:05.460 She was fucking him.
01:17:06.800 Yep.
01:17:07.180 At that time.
01:17:08.360 And you're just finding this out from him, not from her.
01:17:11.340 And you're drunk.
01:17:12.220 So, emotions are, like, extra highlighted, right?
01:17:15.320 So, they're all arguing.
01:17:16.840 And also, Meg had this Tory saying that he's irrelevant.
01:17:20.360 He only got poppin' because of a Jack Harlow feature, et cetera.
01:17:24.060 And then Tory, you know, talks back to her, like, fuck you, blah, blah, blah.
01:17:28.300 So, they're all shitting on each other.
01:17:29.640 All three of them are arguing.
01:17:30.660 And Kelsey confirms this, that all three of them are arguing.
01:17:32.980 Okay?
01:17:34.100 And then, a key moment, they say – they ask her, did Tory make a threat to shoot?
01:17:42.200 She responds, yes.
01:17:45.120 And then they ask for context under which Tory made the threat to shoot.
01:17:48.820 And what does she do?
01:17:50.080 She invokes the Fifth Amendment.
01:17:51.660 There you go.
01:17:52.660 There you go.
01:17:53.360 Why did she invoke the Fifth there specifically?
01:18:00.880 That is not just a reasonable doubt.
01:18:03.400 That's a crater.
01:18:05.740 That is a crater.
01:18:06.660 Why did Tori Lane – did Harris invoke the Fifth at that specific moment when asked for context on why he threatened to shoot Meg?
01:18:18.940 He's willing to admit that he threatened to shoot her, but why?
01:18:23.560 Yep.
01:18:24.440 And it gets – hold on, but it gets better.
01:18:26.080 So, then, right, she confesses, guys, that she lied to the police to protect herself.
01:18:38.380 All right?
01:18:42.440 So, the prosecutor obviously is like, whoa, because, guys, you got to remember, this is their fucking witness.
01:18:48.500 Their direct examination.
01:18:51.200 This is supposed to be a friendly witness to them.
01:18:54.760 So, the prosecutor, shocked about this, is, like, kind of caught with their pants down.
01:19:01.800 So, what do they do?
01:19:02.900 They play a portion of the interview from September of this year, 2022, when they interviewed her, where she said Tori was a shooter, et cetera.
01:19:13.080 All right?
01:19:14.580 And Kelsey says she lied in that interview.
01:19:18.320 All right?
01:19:18.720 So, yeah, wild.
01:19:24.000 So, her and the prosecutor, then, at this point, go back and forth.
01:19:27.600 The prosecutor keeps asking her, why did you lie?
01:19:31.080 Is this true that such and such happened?
01:19:32.820 Why did you lie?
01:19:33.900 And she keeps responding, to protect myself.
01:19:37.080 When she goes deeper, protect yourself, Al, she says, to protect myself.
01:19:40.680 She didn't want to get beyond anything else besides saying, to protect herself.
01:19:45.700 Right?
01:19:46.200 And this is on direct, by the way, guys.
01:19:48.040 She also acknowledges that Tori Lane's offered her $1 million, but she didn't take it.
01:19:53.140 And she said, Tori said, don't say anything.
01:19:55.420 But she didn't specify what she didn't want her to say, what he didn't want her to say.
01:20:01.300 And then, also, Kelsey sent a text message to the security saying Tori shot her.
01:20:06.000 And then, Kelsey denies seeing the shooter.
01:20:09.680 She just heard shots.
01:20:10.960 And then, Kelsey also said that both of them were outside the car when shots happened.
01:20:16.220 However, Meg said Kelsey was in the car where she didn't see her at all.
01:20:21.160 Right?
01:20:21.660 But Kelsey confirmed that both of them were actually outside the vehicle when the shots happened.
01:20:26.760 Right?
01:20:27.780 So, yeah, crazy stuff.
01:20:31.160 So, then, now on cross, so the defense goes ahead.
01:20:36.100 So, see, once again, she's countered herself.
01:20:38.900 She's literally pointed herself out as a liar.
01:20:40.820 She's already destroyed her reputation before cross-examination.
01:20:45.620 That's supposed to be what you do on cross-examination.
01:20:48.460 She's already done it to herself.
01:20:50.020 It's like you played yourself, meme, you know?
01:20:52.320 You 100% played yourself.
01:20:53.780 So, the cross-examination, frankly, they've got a pretty easy job here.
01:20:58.060 They do mess it up a little bit, though.
01:21:00.540 We'll get to that.
01:21:01.480 Yeah.
01:21:02.280 So, this is on direct, and she confessed that she lied to the police, etc.
01:21:06.480 Right?
01:21:06.780 And remember, I want you guys to make this clear.
01:21:09.060 Kelsey only did one interview with the prosecution, and she did it in September of this year.
01:21:14.540 Mind you, this event happened in July of 2020.
01:21:20.000 So, she didn't actually come in for an interview until September of 2022, almost over two years later.
01:21:26.780 All right?
01:21:28.040 So, the defense now, they cross-examine her.
01:21:31.520 And they say, you got immunity.
01:21:33.440 Have you been paid off?
01:21:35.340 And then the defense actually makes a good point here.
01:21:37.320 They say, she didn't make a statement until September.
01:21:40.300 So, how did she accept the bribe money that the prosecution is alleging that she took and goes ahead and gives incriminating statements against Tory?
01:21:50.400 All right?
01:21:50.680 All right?
01:21:50.960 So, guys, let me slow it down so you guys understand this.
01:21:54.420 The prosecution was saying that Kelsey, even though it's their witness, after all this craziness happened, they made allegations that she potentially was paid off by Tory Lanez and his legal team.
01:22:07.180 All right?
01:22:07.860 All right?
01:22:08.000 Then the defense comes in and says, well, how is that possible that she got paid off by Tory Lanez's defense team when she had not been interviewed until two years later in September?
01:22:19.080 And when she came in to do her interview, she went ahead and gave you guys incriminating statements against Tory.
01:22:26.300 Because when she went to the police, guys, she said that Tory Lanez was a shooter.
01:22:29.900 She said that Tory Lanez assaulted her.
01:22:31.760 She said that she went to go console Meg after she had been shot.
01:22:34.900 Tory Lanez gets out the car.
01:22:35.880 And she gets in between Meg and him.
01:22:38.600 And she fights Tory off.
01:22:40.540 And Tory beats on her, messes up her weave.
01:22:43.900 Her chain falls off.
01:22:45.060 Her nail falls off.
01:22:46.020 Et cetera.
01:22:47.240 Okay?
01:22:48.300 That's what she originally told the investigators when she went.
01:22:50.760 Or not the investigators.
01:22:51.540 This is what she told the prosecution.
01:22:53.500 Right?
01:22:54.840 Then the defense asks her, which I guess is a pretty good line of questioning, why did you lie?
01:23:01.500 Was there pressure to lie?
01:23:03.220 And did we pressure you to lie?
01:23:04.520 Did Tory or his team pressure you to lie?
01:23:06.200 She says no.
01:23:07.620 Then they say, did the prosecution pressure you to lie?
01:23:11.400 She says yes.
01:23:13.060 Oh, shit.
01:23:14.320 There you go.
01:23:15.360 And that little bit, that little bit there, it's a huge win for the defense.
01:23:20.360 But it did open the door to them bringing in the full recording of the previous interview with the prosecutors.
01:23:30.960 Now, what does opening the door mean?
01:23:33.260 Let me explain it a little bit.
01:23:34.020 So, typically, you only allow evidence in, like I said, if it's with somebody actually testifying to that evidence and the verifiability of that evidence in court.
01:23:44.540 So, typically, recordings are not allowed in, particularly if you can just ask the person yourself directly.
01:23:50.240 Right?
01:23:50.400 If you can just ask Meg or ask Kelsey Harris or ask Tory Lanez, you just ask them directly.
01:23:57.280 You don't have to bring in other evidence.
01:23:59.000 However, because they mentioned the prosecution and mentioned this note about them asking them to lie, they brought in the recording, the previous recording, in order to add what they wanted to do was show context.
01:24:13.200 And what they wanted to show was that they didn't do anything dirty.
01:24:17.460 That is a major accusation, by the way.
01:24:19.800 Whether it's against the prosecution or defense, you cannot pay somebody or tell somebody to lie.
01:24:25.820 You will get disbarred for that.
01:24:27.720 As an attorney, I can tell you, we do not take that lightly.
01:24:30.720 If you are caught paying off a witness or telling a witness straight up to lie, no, that's it.
01:24:37.880 That's a wrap.
01:24:38.980 That's a wrap.
01:24:39.760 Now, lawyers have very creative ways.
01:24:41.780 I know lawyers that have creative ways of talking about this, of not telling them to lie, but telling them to be careful about stuff.
01:24:47.980 Yes, lawyers can do that.
01:24:49.500 But you cannot tell somebody to get up there on stand and lie.
01:24:53.700 Not permissible.
01:24:54.660 It's a huge ethical breach.
01:24:56.440 Yeah, and not to mention criminal, you could definitely get some criminal charges for that as well, besides getting disbarred.
01:25:04.040 So, okay, so she goes ahead and she confirms that there was a physical altercation between her and Meg, but she said it was only a bump, which, I mean, okay.
01:25:15.160 What are you talking about a fist bump?
01:25:16.000 What are you talking about a shoulder bump?
01:25:17.400 Like, what are we talking about here?
01:25:18.300 Which is kind of strange because a bump would knock your nail off and your chain on the floor, and, you know, there's clearly a physical altercation.
01:25:25.080 So, basically, the story she said before about Tory Lanez assaulting her and shooting at Meg or whatever, she said all of it was a lie, guys.
01:25:34.020 So, all of that testimony is basically thrown out now, okay?
01:25:37.760 So, she also says her and Meg haven't spoken since that night, and then the defense asked her, did you hear Dad's bitches?
01:25:47.240 She said, now, where do you think that came from, right, which you could take that for a face value, what it is.
01:25:53.500 And then the defense asked her about Tory Lanez having a deal with Roc Nation and that falling through before the incident happened.
01:26:03.880 She did not know about it.
01:26:05.260 And then Kelsey confirmed that Meg was mad about the Jenner situation.
01:26:09.400 She also said that Meg was mad when she left, and they went back for the sandal.
01:26:15.120 And then she also said Meg got out originally the vehicle in a bikini, and they coaxed her, and she sat at a bus stop, and then they coaxed her to get back into the vehicle.
01:26:24.760 And then they stopped again, and that's when the shooting happened.
01:26:27.500 And Meg had denied this in her testimony.
01:26:29.620 She only remembers getting out one time, okay?
01:26:33.060 And then the prosecution is going to – and then, okay, so day five now, right?
01:26:37.720 So, that was day four.
01:26:38.860 So, obviously, Kelsey had two days of testimony, guys, because she threw a wrench in everything.
01:26:45.740 And, honestly, the prosecution now at this point, they're throwing anything at the fucking wall because she kind of messed with the procedures,
01:26:53.200 and the judge isn't too happy about her recanting all her statements and saying, I'm going to take the fifth and, you know, delaying the trial or whatever.
01:26:59.840 So, now the judge is like, all right, I'm going to let anything in as far as, like, you know, because now the prosecution said, oh, we got some other text messages we want to bring in.
01:27:08.360 Oh, we got a detective that can verify that Tory Lanez was doing some things on Instagram.
01:27:13.100 And, normally, this stuff would never be allowed into trial.
01:27:15.460 But since Kelsey came in and went back on her story, he's like, bro, we got to get the truth.
01:27:21.120 So, basically, he's allowing in other pieces of evidence that otherwise may have never been able to be allowed in.
01:27:27.360 Quick point on this, quick point on this.
01:27:29.340 This is, I think this is a sign of desperation on the part of the prosecution.
01:27:34.720 And, understand, we always think about trial as trial.
01:27:37.580 But a lot of lawyers forget, and even people out there forget, the appeal is very important as well.
01:27:43.140 And the judge letting each piece of evidence, each single piece of evidence they allow in that they previously didn't, that they're making a judgment call to allow that piece of evidence in, whether it's a single text message, whether it's a video, a recording, whatever.
01:27:57.880 Each piece of evidence is something that is potentially impermissible and giving them another grounds for appeal.
01:28:04.360 Now, so, if, let's say, hypothetically, Tory Lanez is convicted here, all these things they're doing, all these things that normally wouldn't come and they're allowing in, these are all appeal points.
01:28:15.420 And, honestly, each one of them gives Tory Lanez a huge chance to recover, even if he's convicted.
01:28:21.500 So, frankly, the defense, through the prosecution's desperation, has actually got a big win here.
01:28:26.580 Even if they were to lose at trial, I think they have a massive chance to win any appeal, even if he was convicted, because they're allowing evidence in that they shouldn't have to allow in.
01:28:36.840 But they're only doing that because they're fucked, because Meg Thee Stallion and Kelsey Harris did not give the prosecution what they needed to convict Tory Lanez.
01:28:46.620 And also something that I found, we found this interesting right before the pod, and I'll show you guys this as well, is that, hold on one second.
01:28:56.580 If you go back to the police report, guys, and I highlighted this for y'all real fast.
01:29:02.820 So, here is, after the incident, right, my partner admonished Harris per LAPD form 1503.
01:29:09.960 Their LAPD form, guys, is the Miranda rights, okay, because remember, they're showing up on the scene, they just know someone had been shot, they don't know who the shooter is.
01:29:16.700 So, to be safe, they're going to Miranda-ize everybody, right?
01:29:19.640 She goes, she responded, yes, yes, and yes, and yes.
01:29:23.220 When, after she wanted to talk about what happened, Harris said, I really want someone to represent me.
01:29:29.140 Why is she saying that?
01:29:30.740 Now, what I'm saying, this is a relevant question.
01:29:32.720 Like, why is she, why does she need that representation right away?
01:29:36.520 Now, the other thing, too, is that our investigation revealed that on 7-12-2020, at approximately 4.30 hours, a physical altercation between Harris and Pete, remember, guys, Harris is Kelsey, Pete is Meg Thee Stallion.
01:29:48.820 Yep.
01:29:49.220 That occurred at 1841 North Nicholas Canyon Boulevard.
01:29:53.220 An unknown suspect fired approximately five rounds.
01:29:55.320 Smith, Peterson, Pete, and Harris entered the Black Escalade and flee southbound on Nicholas Canyon Road.
01:30:00.980 Based on Peterson's seating position and the position of the firearm, Peterson was the last person to have constructive possession of the firearm.
01:30:06.220 And as you guys know, when they fled the scene, he just jumped in the front seat.
01:30:09.160 And when they stopped them, he was with the gun, which was in the front seat underneath like a Gucci bag, if I'm not mistaken, some kind of bag.
01:30:16.960 And once again, this is like you're playing musical chairs.
01:30:19.540 He just happened to be the guy that was sitting there next to the gun.
01:30:22.000 That does not imply he's actually the one that had possession of the gun.
01:30:26.660 And from what I understand, there's not enough proof.
01:30:29.180 They never presented or the case in trial has not presented evidence that he's actually the one that fired him, conclusive evidence.
01:30:35.880 Testimony is one thing, but actual fingerprints on the gun, other things that might be able to say, hey, he's the one who fired this gun at that point.
01:30:42.580 And I got evidence for that one as well, which I'll share with you guys here in a second.
01:30:45.560 But also I want to point out that this witness, Kelly Sean, advised he lived on 1841 Courtney Ave.
01:30:50.940 He stated he heard arguing outside his bedroom.
01:30:53.340 He looked outside and observed a black escalade.
01:30:55.460 He stated the passenger door was open and observed four suspects, two females and two males.
01:31:00.180 Kelly stated one male was heavyset and the second was a thin build.
01:31:03.000 He stated the rear passenger exited from the vehicle, one of the females, and began fighting with the other female.
01:31:09.840 Boom!
01:31:10.440 So we have a witness, Sean Kelly, who is saying that these bitches were fighting.
01:31:15.720 And once again, this is something that you're getting from a neutral party.
01:31:19.360 You're getting it from somebody who doesn't have an interest here, who's not screwing somebody else, who's not involved here.
01:31:24.080 There's no emotions.
01:31:25.220 There's no politics.
01:31:26.260 A neutral observer who says this.
01:31:27.940 And they get some pretty good details.
01:31:30.540 I mean, they and they're accurate about them.
01:31:32.320 For example, the fact it was a black escalade.
01:31:34.400 They notice these details.
01:31:35.780 So this this witness actually seems pretty reliable.
01:31:38.920 So and I think this is the guy that they're probably going to call, by the way, because they are going to call one of the witnesses.
01:31:43.920 And I think this is going to be the guy.
01:31:45.380 They didn't name him, but I'm pretty sure this is going to be him.
01:31:47.140 So at one point, Kelly observed one female crawl out of the black escalade and onto the driveway of 1841 North Nichols Canyon.
01:31:54.180 Kelly heard approximately four to five gunshots.
01:31:55.880 Kelly stated both males were punching close fist one of the females and dragged her into the vehicle.
01:32:00.420 The vehicle fled southbound on Nichols Canyon Road, briefly stopped at a driveway and continued southbound towards Hollywood Boulevard.
01:32:07.920 So, hey, you know what I mean?
01:32:09.940 You got an eyewitness saying that the two females were fighting, even though Meg was saying that there was no physical confrontation between her.
01:32:15.980 And then Kelsey said there was a physical confrontation, but she downplayed and said that it was just a bump.
01:32:20.680 So it's probably somewhere in the middle here.
01:32:23.440 Right.
01:32:25.180 OK, so let's go ahead and get into day five of the testimony.
01:32:29.600 This is where the DNA experts come in, guys.
01:32:31.820 All right.
01:32:33.140 So day five of the trial, just like Andrew said, they played the entire interview with Kelsey and the prosecutors.
01:32:41.280 OK, where she gave the testimony about Tori Lane shooting, assaulting her, being the main guy, et cetera.
01:32:47.760 Right.
01:32:48.520 Hold on, Myron.
01:32:49.500 This was a little bit weird, wasn't it?
01:32:51.080 The recording was a little bit weird because it was recorded with prosecutors, but not with law enforcement.
01:32:57.040 Right.
01:32:57.200 Yes.
01:32:57.560 There was no detectives during this interview, which I don't know what the hell they're doing over there with the Los Angeles district attorney's office.
01:33:11.460 But the fact that they went ahead and conducted an interview with a witness without an investigator there baffles me because I'll tell you guys this from my personal training experience when I was an agent.
01:33:26.160 Prosecutors aren't involved in interviews until after the judicial process is kind of underway.
01:33:31.600 And there's always an investigator there because you typically don't want prosecutors to be direct witnesses.
01:33:37.420 You cannot make the direct witnesses.
01:33:39.480 You cannot make the person who is prosecuting the case a witness in the case.
01:33:43.640 You've got to remove them from the case.
01:33:45.540 So are you going to remove that prosecutor so you can put them on the stand to testify to the recording, to testify to that interview?
01:33:53.120 No.
01:33:53.660 Of course you're not going to do that.
01:33:54.820 So this move by them, it was either brain dead or, I mean, I don't know what's going on in L.A.
01:34:00.480 Utter incompetence.
01:34:01.880 L.A. tax dollars at work.
01:34:03.180 I don't know what to tell you guys.
01:34:04.420 And the other thing, too, is there wasn't an investigator there.
01:34:08.080 The prosecutors did it.
01:34:09.020 The only time I've ever seen prosecutors, like, run interviews typically is if it's, like, a deposition, which this, to my knowledge and understanding, was not a deposition.
01:34:18.860 It was not a deposition.
01:34:20.320 Otherwise, it would have been admitted.
01:34:21.500 It would have been admitted if it was a deposition.
01:34:22.500 You should tell them what a deposition is.
01:34:24.340 Yeah.
01:34:24.600 So a deposition is a on-the-record, under-oath, you know, transcription.
01:34:30.520 There's questions that are asked by both sides for a witness.
01:34:35.320 It is on oath.
01:34:36.380 It is immiscible in court.
01:34:38.040 It's part of discovery.
01:34:39.160 You sit someone down, usually for multiple hours, sometimes the entire day.
01:34:43.700 You're peppered with questions.
01:34:45.100 You're grilled with questions.
01:34:46.340 You have to answer.
01:34:47.780 Now, your counsel can make objections, and those objections are ruled on later as to what is admissible and inadmissible.
01:34:53.220 But generally, you're asked questions.
01:34:55.100 You have to answer.
01:34:56.960 And then you go through it from both sides.
01:34:59.560 And that is admissible in court.
01:35:01.260 This recording was not a deposition because it was previously inadmissible in court.
01:35:06.480 But only later, only because the prosecution's reputation was attacked, their credibility was attacked, the system was attacked, did the judge say, okay, now we're going to let this in.
01:35:16.400 Yeah, and not only that, you know, now that I think about it, yeah, because a deposition can be used without the person even being there.
01:35:22.920 That's the whole purpose of doing a deposition.
01:35:24.660 You do it so it stands by itself, and you don't even have to bring that witness in because that witness was cross-examined by defense as well because the defense has a right to be there at that deposition.
01:35:34.980 Think of it as kind of like a recorded portion of the trial, right?
01:35:38.500 And typically, you do depositions when someone isn't going to be available in rare situations where you think a witness might die because they're old or sick or something like that.
01:35:45.860 Also, to impeach a witness, right?
01:35:47.440 So if you think a witness is going to lie, you depose them under oath, and you're like, okay, what is the truth?
01:35:53.520 And what you're trying to do, particularly on cross, is get them saying something at trial that is not consistent with their under oath deposition because then, by the way, they're committing perjury.
01:36:06.620 Now, I will say one thing about perjury really quickly because I get a lot of questions on this.
01:36:10.400 This is one of my most frequently asked questions about trial.
01:36:13.160 Andrew, are they going to charge them with perjury?
01:36:16.800 Okay, on the books, they could.
01:36:20.000 Are they going to do it in reality?
01:36:21.960 No.
01:36:22.800 Perjury is rarely ever charged against witnesses because the general principle, they don't want to discourage people from testifying.
01:36:30.740 If the law enforcement, whether it's state, federal, whatever, was known to go after everybody, there would be no witnesses.
01:36:37.200 It's got to be egregious for them to go after you for lying under oath.
01:36:40.840 You know what I mean?
01:36:41.460 It can be done, but it's got to be pretty egregious.
01:36:44.520 It can be done.
01:36:45.320 It's got to be really bad.
01:36:47.800 Like Martha Stewart.
01:36:48.800 Or when they don't have anything else, then they'll come after you for false statements.
01:36:52.820 That's why they got Martha.
01:36:53.940 They were going to get Martha.
01:36:55.080 Martha was going down no matter what.
01:36:57.320 They're like, fuck that shit, bro.
01:36:58.520 We know you.
01:36:59.320 We know you were inside of trading.
01:37:00.820 We got you.
01:37:01.360 1,001, 18 U.S.C., 1,001, false statements.
01:37:05.000 All right.
01:37:05.240 So day five, guys, they play the full interview, okay, because Kelsey royally fucked up as a witness for the prosecution, right?
01:37:12.440 And her interview was very detailed.
01:37:14.760 She gave, you know, details about the party, when she showed up, intricate details of who was there, et cetera, right?
01:37:22.380 She told them Tori hopped in the front seat and shot Meg.
01:37:27.460 She said that jewelry on the floor was because Tori attacked her, right, when they asked her about the jewelry and the nail on the floor.
01:37:33.480 And then she didn't say that Meg and her fought, which, as you guys know, when she came in the second time at the actual trial, she said they did have an altercation, okay, even though she downplayed and said it was a bump.
01:37:45.960 Then the DNA experts came in.
01:37:50.140 They said that the magazine was tested and four DNA profiles were found on the magazine of the firearm.
01:37:56.420 However, Tori's was not on it, which is a W for him.
01:37:59.540 That's a huge.
01:38:00.680 That is a massive W, by the way.
01:38:02.660 That's a huge W.
01:38:04.240 Then they said the gun had four DNA profiles on it, but it was inconclusive.
01:38:10.860 But the DNA experts did say, because remember, there's two DNA experts.
01:38:15.080 There was one for the state and one for the defense.
01:38:17.820 So Tori hired his own independent DNA guy, and then the state had their DNA guy.
01:38:22.340 But both DNA experts concluded, right, that if Tori shot the gun five times, it would be probable that his DNA would be on the gun, which they weren't able to conclusively prove that.
01:38:37.380 Guys, that is massive.
01:38:39.500 If your own expert that you're putting on the stand is not giving you what you want, that is, for trial, that is horrible.
01:38:50.960 That's going to look terrible to a jury.
01:38:53.040 Right there.
01:38:54.000 That alone could be the fact that sinks it in the eyes of the jury.
01:38:58.020 Because typically, here's what happens.
01:38:59.740 The prosecution has their witness, and they'll say, well, this DNA looks good.
01:39:03.460 It matches Tori Lane.
01:39:04.600 We have it on here.
01:39:05.560 And he's one who could be the shooter.
01:39:07.300 He could possibly be the shooter.
01:39:08.280 The defense comes up and says, nope, there's not enough DNA on here to prove that.
01:39:12.420 I use this method to analyze it, and it's some competing valid method.
01:39:17.000 And, hey, there's not a lot to analyze this, and you can't conclusively say that he was a shooter.
01:39:21.040 And you get a war of the experts.
01:39:23.080 Your expert says one thing.
01:39:24.360 Their expert says another thing.
01:39:25.540 That happens at a lot of trials.
01:39:26.980 However, when you have your own expert that doesn't tell you what you want, it's devastating.
01:39:35.640 Because we've found at trials over centuries of looking at trials as experts versus late witnesses, people, particularly juries, put a crazy amount of trust in experts.
01:39:46.460 I don't know why you guys trust people with degrees like doctors, lawyers, whatever.
01:39:50.540 Apparently, you trust us.
01:39:51.400 I don't know why.
01:39:51.900 But it's your mistake.
01:39:54.120 But the point is, is that people will really, really, really trust that testimony more than even Meg or even Torrey.
01:39:59.820 They'll say, hey, the expert says there's no DNA on here, so it must not be him.
01:40:04.860 But that, to me, that is huge.
01:40:08.520 That is massive.
01:40:10.280 So, and I found that interesting because both of them were like, hey, it's probable that if he shot the gun five times, right, as alleged, his DNA would be on it.
01:40:20.240 And then the Torrey's guy took it a step further.
01:40:23.340 He said, Torrey's DNA guy said, if he fired it five times, it should be conclusively on, his DNA should be on it conclusively, which at that point, the prosecution, right, did their job.
01:40:32.860 And they went ahead and said, well, how do you know that?
01:40:35.600 What's your, you know, aren't you Torrey's witness, blah, blah, blah.
01:40:39.340 But even their DNA guy said that, yeah, I mean, if someone shot the gun five times, it would be probable that you would be able to find their DNA.
01:40:47.480 But Torrey's DNA guy said, no, it would be conclusive if he shot it five times.
01:40:51.800 So that's when the DNA pushed him a little, the prosecution pushed him a little bit and tried to discredit him.
01:40:56.460 However, their own witness even said, yeah, it would be probable that there'd be DNA on it.
01:41:00.280 Because you guys got to remember, when you fire a gun, there's recoil, okay, there's residue coming out, et cetera, right?
01:41:07.960 Which also, I want to let you guys know, the defense, when they went after Kelsey, they said that, yo, you had gun residue on you too, right?
01:41:17.000 So that's another interesting point.
01:41:20.100 Okay, what else here?
01:41:21.760 And then also on the last day of trial, Meg's security guard went missing.
01:41:25.340 They can't find him to testify.
01:41:27.900 And to be honest with you guys.
01:41:29.360 Weird, it's weird.
01:41:30.180 That's weird.
01:41:30.660 That's a weird fact, man.
01:41:31.780 It's a weird fact, weird timing.
01:41:33.420 But to be honest with you, I don't think he's that important of a witness because all he really got was he got the text message from Kelsey saying that Torrey shot her.
01:41:40.820 So all he would do is kind of come in and be like, on this day and time, did you go ahead and get a text message from Kelsey saying that Torrey shot her?
01:41:47.460 Yes, I did.
01:41:48.120 Okay.
01:41:48.700 So I don't really know how that would help too much, but whatever.
01:41:53.240 And then also, I talked about earlier that it wasn't the police.
01:41:58.080 It was the prosecutors that went ahead and did the interview, which was weird.
01:42:00.560 And the cross-examination actually talked about that.
01:42:02.980 Why was it only lawyers interviewing her?
01:42:05.360 And why was it an investigator there?
01:42:07.300 And the other good point the defense made was she didn't have immunity back in September of 2022.
01:42:14.180 So she was more incentivized to lie.
01:42:17.760 One more time for y'all.
01:42:19.800 She did not have immunity in September of 2022 when she went in and did the interview.
01:42:26.960 So she was more incentivized to lie.
01:42:29.640 So when she comes in under oath, she takes the fifth.
01:42:33.340 Whoa, what the hell are you taking a fifth for?
01:42:35.000 We already talked over this.
01:42:36.540 And then she goes ahead and says, oh, I want to take the fifth.
01:42:39.020 Okay, we'll give you the immunity.
01:42:40.480 Then she says, I lied to y'all back in September.
01:42:45.100 That explains everything.
01:42:46.280 That fits the theory of the case.
01:42:48.720 Especially the theory of the case that Harris is culpable here.
01:42:51.880 That Harris had a key in this.
01:42:54.020 And once again, line it up with that motive.
01:42:56.100 She just found, she's drunk, emotional, and she just found out her dude that she's fucking with is fucking all these other people.
01:43:06.000 Wild.
01:43:06.960 So that is what happened, guys, summarized over the five days.
01:43:14.220 So, Andrew, but you're an expert.
01:43:17.340 What do you think with all the facts you've got to so far?
01:43:20.360 That looks really, really, really bad for the prosecution.
01:43:27.040 There's almost none of these charges that they can get him on definitively.
01:43:32.580 If they can prove that he actually touched the gun, which doesn't seem like there's any proof here, maybe they could get him for carrying a loaded firearm and not being the registered owner under California law.
01:43:43.200 That one law that I said is probably violative of the Second Amendment, which is, by the way, why they have those laws so they can get you on something.
01:43:49.660 But other than that one, which I don't even think they can get because they lack the DNA evidence to prove he ever touched the gun, I think this entire thing gets thrown out.
01:43:59.200 I think this is a giant L for the prosecution based on what we've seen so far.
01:44:04.480 Unless there's something else they're pulling out in this final week, this looks like a giant L for them, in my experience.
01:44:12.800 And once again, you're going to have to convince the jury.
01:44:15.760 It was the prosecution's duty to convince the jury.
01:44:18.720 Did they do that?
01:44:19.940 I don't know where.
01:44:21.180 Where would they do that in this case?
01:44:23.720 Yeah.
01:44:24.180 So, guys, there's 6,100 plus y'all watching right now.
01:44:27.520 I need you guys to get us up to at least we should be at like 3 to 4K easily, guys.
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01:44:53.980 I need you guys to like the video.
01:44:55.140 I'm not going to go ahead and give you guys my prediction until I get this thing to at least 3K likes.
01:44:59.720 We got to get the goddamn likes up.
01:45:01.320 It's very easy.
01:45:02.220 We gave you guys a whole bunch of sauce.
01:45:03.780 While I wait for you guys to get the goddamn likes up, I'll go ahead and give you guys a quick recap on what happened.
01:45:08.180 All right?
01:45:08.540 We want everything to the people that are trying to do.
01:45:11.980 So, first week of the trial.
01:45:13.460 Trial began last Monday, guys.
01:45:15.420 Okay?
01:45:16.480 So, day one, they went ahead with opening statements.
01:45:19.600 We described what an opening statement is.
01:45:21.140 The prosecution opened up painting Tory Lanez as the alleged shooter.
01:45:24.840 Right?
01:45:25.160 And they opened up with dance, bitch.
01:45:27.300 And then, which is allegedly what Tory Lanez said before he shot Meg.
01:45:30.340 Then the defense went in with their theory that Kelsey was actually the shooter.
01:45:34.760 There was gunshot residue on her as well.
01:45:36.700 And that this wasn't necessarily an argument between her and Meg.
01:45:40.320 Sorry, between Tory and Meg.
01:45:42.000 Rather, an argument between Kelsey and Meg over the fact that Meg had slept with men that Kelsey had been involved with prior to include Tory Lanez, DaBaby, and Ben Simmons, and maybe some other dudes.
01:45:54.540 Right?
01:45:54.720 So, Meg's sexual history definitely came into this.
01:45:58.700 Then, on day one, the law enforcement were pretty much brought in.
01:46:01.860 On direct, you know, everything went smooth because of the prosecutors asking them questions.
01:46:05.360 Then on cross, right, the defense basically were able to illustrate that the police did not follow standard evidentiary procedure correctly.
01:46:13.400 And they didn't mark the evidence appropriately with the bullets and the blood at the crime scene.
01:46:18.140 So, there's no real definitive pattern, right, or movement that can be proven of the witness slash victim in this case.
01:46:27.780 So, they don't really know who shot who.
01:46:30.380 Okay?
01:46:30.640 So, they attacked the evidence in that perspective, right, which is the defense's job.
01:46:35.180 Then the prosecution was saying, hey, we got jail calls of Tory Lanez profusely apologizing when he was in prison.
01:46:40.880 And, you know, the defense's argument to that, well, you guys know now that he could have been apologizing for outing Meg's sexual history to Kelsey, which started the whole altercation of them fighting.
01:46:49.760 So, they created some more plausible deniability that he might have not been apologizing for shooting because he never said, I'm sorry for shooting.
01:46:56.500 He just said, I'm sorry.
01:46:57.700 And no one really knows for what.
01:46:59.320 And the defense say it could be for him outing Meg.
01:47:01.860 Then on day three, right, this is day one.
01:47:04.940 So, day two, excuse me, Meg the Stallion goes and takes a stand.
01:47:08.100 She gives her story, powerful testimony.
01:47:10.320 I'm the victim, blah, blah, blah.
01:47:11.480 She did a good job of getting the pulling at the heartstrings.
01:47:14.100 She gives a story that, to be honest with you guys, doesn't make too much sense.
01:47:20.840 But go back in the video.
01:47:22.060 I'm going to put timestamps up that goes exactly over what she said in her testimony.
01:47:25.340 Then on cross, she also had some testimony that was questionable.
01:47:30.620 But guys, go back and watch it.
01:47:32.760 I'll put the timestamps up for you guys on the show.
01:47:34.800 So, don't worry.
01:47:35.460 And then day three, obviously, the explosive testimony from Kelsey where she takes the fifth before she even gets on the stand.
01:47:40.760 As soon as she gets on the stand, she admits that she had lied to the prosecution back in September when she had come in for an interview.
01:47:48.880 When asked multiple times why, she said to protect herself.
01:47:52.600 And this obviously builds more ammunition for the defense's argument that she could have been potentially the shooter.
01:48:00.840 And when she was asked if Tory Lanez threatened Meg to shoot her, she says yes.
01:48:05.680 And then they ask, well, under what context?
01:48:07.880 And then she takes the fifth again, which we went over the Fifth Amendment.
01:48:10.960 You only get Fifth Amendment privileges when what you are going to say is more than likely going to incriminate you, which she ended up getting immunity.
01:48:18.840 So, yeah, the prosecution can't really go after her.
01:48:23.180 And then on cross, she went ahead and contradicted a bunch of the things that Meg said, which, you know, will be in detail in the timestamps.
01:48:31.260 And then we went on to day five where the DNA experts confirmed that Tory Lanez's DNA was not on the magazine and that the gun itself had four different DNA profiles, but it was inconclusive.
01:48:44.620 And the DNA experts also say that if the gun had been shot five times by Tory Lanez, his DNA more than likely would be on it or should be on it conclusively, according to the other DNA expert from Tory's side.
01:48:58.660 But both DNA people, to note, from the state and from Tory's defense team, both concluded that, hey, it was inconclusive and it should be there if he's fired five times.
01:49:10.660 And I guess that's the general overall summary.
01:49:13.820 Anything else you want to add?
01:49:14.940 And we're not at closing arguments yet.
01:49:16.960 So we're not there yet.
01:49:18.400 Yeah, we still got another.
01:49:19.060 Yeah, we probably got, but I think my, my over under Myron is I think they want to, and let me tell you about judges.
01:49:25.800 They like to finish things before Christmas.
01:49:27.820 They likes God damn it.
01:49:28.880 Sorry.
01:49:29.100 Go ahead.
01:49:29.600 They like to finish things before Christmas.
01:49:31.160 So I do not think this thing goes longer than the end of this week, including closing arguments.
01:49:36.120 So that judge has probably told them, listen, listen, motherfuckers.
01:49:39.160 I'm not going out here and unboxing some shit with some whiny ass kids and then coming back here into court.
01:49:44.020 The judge is because the judge is the real people.
01:49:46.240 The jury is real people too.
01:49:47.340 And the jury is going to be pissed off if this thing gets dragged out.
01:49:51.100 Mind you, the longer these things go, it's probably worse for the prosecution, particularly if the jury perceives the prosecution as drawing this thing out.
01:49:59.080 So I think this thing wraps this week.
01:50:01.220 I think we get a verdict this week.
01:50:03.400 100% in this case.
01:50:05.240 That's where I'm at.
01:50:06.280 I agree 100% on that.
01:50:07.660 I want you guys to know when trials occur, the judge, their main focus is getting the jury to not be agitated, annoyed, and for them to be able to process the case, understand the case, and most importantly, make their ruling on the case as far as who they think is culpable in the crime or not culpable in this case, potentially.
01:50:29.040 So the judge's prime concern is always the jury, guys.
01:50:34.200 I mean, when I went to trial, the judge will yell at the prosecutors and or the defense if they stall the trial because he looks at it like, yo, these jurors are here on their free time.
01:50:44.340 They're missing work.
01:50:47.020 They're not watching television.
01:50:48.420 They're not watching certain coverage on this case.
01:50:50.080 They're missing a lot of stuff for this case as a civil duty.
01:50:53.760 So we need to go ahead and respect that.
01:50:55.600 So the judge always wants the jury to not be agitated and annoyed.
01:51:00.640 And another thing, too, is this has all been the prosecution's case.
01:51:04.020 Mind you, the defense, they can put on a case.
01:51:06.260 They can bring up witnesses, but they don't have to.
01:51:08.960 All they got to do is poke holes, and they've already done that.
01:51:12.300 And in fact, the prosecution is probably its own worst enemy at this point.
01:51:16.120 So the defense doesn't need to get up there and give a lot.
01:51:18.960 They just have to go up there, poke a couple holes in the story of the prosecution, and that's it.
01:51:24.100 They're done.
01:51:24.560 They can sit down, and they can rest their case.
01:51:27.080 So I think we're going to see not too much from that.
01:51:29.700 And also remember, and this is very important, is that Tory Lanez is probably not going to testify in this.
01:51:35.540 He's probably taking the fifth, which in this case, as his attorney, if I was Tory Lanez's attorney, I would say, do not get up there.
01:51:42.780 Take the fifth.
01:51:43.420 Sit down.
01:51:44.680 There's no reason to get up there.
01:51:45.900 It's just going to look bad.
01:51:46.820 They're just going to be able to ask you questions, attack your credibility, get into things that might make you look bad.
01:51:52.000 Do not get up there.
01:51:52.980 So I expect that Tory Lanez will take the fifth and will not get up there to testify.
01:51:59.740 Good point.
01:52:00.280 You know what?
01:52:00.560 Since we're on this topic, let's talk about potential witnesses that they're going to bring in.
01:52:03.880 They talked about potentially bringing Kylie Jenner as a witness.
01:52:06.860 Which would be bombshell.
01:52:08.960 I mean, that would put some napalm on this pitch if Kylie comes in.
01:52:12.320 But they talked about, obviously, that witness that saw the fight.
01:52:15.580 They're going to bring him in, the security guard.
01:52:17.280 And then the defense wants to bring back one of the police officers, which that's not a good thing.
01:52:22.140 They probably want to cross him some more and attack the prosecution's case even more so.
01:52:28.020 They also want that detective to come in, but that's not going to happen.
01:52:30.820 The one that's under investigation at Stockton or Stegnan, whatever his name is.
01:52:35.280 I would love to see Kylie come back in and be like, yo, these hells were mad because he was just trying to smash me.
01:52:41.880 Like, I mean, that would be the nuclear bomb on this case.
01:52:46.160 Yeah.
01:52:46.720 So those are the witnesses that are more than likely going to come in.
01:52:51.120 But I agree with you, Andrew.
01:52:52.040 They're 100% going to want to wrap this up before Christmas.
01:52:54.600 He's not going to want the trial to lag on beyond Christmas.
01:52:57.400 I think they're going to go at what they'll probably do is they'll probably finish all the witnesses by this week, get the jury to deliberate, and hopefully they can go ahead and get some kind of decision by the end of the week and, you know, be done with it for Christmas because Christmas is this weekend.
01:53:13.860 So, yeah, it's coming up.
01:53:14.980 So, I mean, they don't want to be doing that.
01:53:16.640 And they don't want the jury out there.
01:53:17.960 They usually promise the jury to keep it as quick as possible.
01:53:21.260 And mind you, the jury is going to make their decision quickly if they push it closer to Christmas.
01:53:25.060 So they know if this thing wraps on Thursday, that jury is coming back by the end of Friday with a verdict.
01:53:30.260 They're not going out there over that weekend and saying they've got to come back the next week.
01:53:33.420 Mind you, you're paid a very low amount for this.
01:53:35.700 This is not a profitable venture for you to be sitting in court.
01:53:39.180 You are not paying a lot of money.
01:53:40.440 This is not fun.
01:53:41.700 This is not cool.
01:53:42.840 It's a pain in your ass.
01:53:43.800 Nobody wants to be there.
01:53:44.980 They all just want to go home.
01:53:46.360 So they are not going to be favoring the prosecution if the prosecution pushes this towards the weekend.
01:53:51.420 They might just, if this wrapped on Friday morning, they might walk back in there before lunch and give a verdict saying, look, we already decided this guy's not guilty.
01:54:00.080 So here's my prediction on it.
01:54:01.740 And guys, get the likes up.
01:54:02.780 So we went over everything.
01:54:05.520 At this point, I would be shocked if Tory Lanez was found guilty.
01:54:10.280 I would honestly be shocked because you guys got to remember, like I said at the top of the podcast, it's the prosecution's job to prove a beyond a reasonable doubt, not probable cause, which is all the way down here.
01:54:23.180 They need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Tory was the shooter.
01:54:28.500 Tory was in possession of the firearm.
01:54:31.000 Tory discharged the firearm, etc.
01:54:32.860 The DNA evidence alone is inconclusive that he was the one that shot the gun five times, okay?
01:54:42.240 And you got witness testimony that contradicts itself all over the place.
01:54:45.940 Everyone was drunk.
01:54:46.820 You got Meg the Stein, the primary witness against Tory, lying on random interviews, giving contradictory statements to what the prosecution's even saying.
01:54:55.360 Then the person that was supposed to be the prosecution's star witness gets on the stand and takes the fifth and then admits everything she told the prosecution was a lie.
01:55:07.780 And then she goes ahead and says, I'm taking the fifth and I have to protect myself.
01:55:14.820 Well, what the hell can that be insinuating?
01:55:16.680 Well, it can insinuate that her and – well, we already know that her and Meg were actually the ones arguing and fighting, right, to include Tory as well.
01:55:24.180 And there was a physical altercation.
01:55:26.400 So now it's probable or possible that Kelsey shot Meg.
01:55:33.060 That is a legitimate theory now at this point.
01:55:35.580 And guess what that does?
01:55:36.440 That creates a magic term, which is reasonable doubt, my friends.
01:55:41.340 And once there's reasonable doubt, which is the defense's job, you can't convict somebody because we don't know if he was a shooter definitively beyond a reasonable doubt.
01:55:49.660 And I agree with you, Andrew.
01:55:52.900 At this point, because some people said, oh, Tory's going to take the stand, Tory's going to take the stand.
01:55:57.060 I mean, I've – anytime I've ever seen a defense attorney put their witness on the stand, it's always been an L.
01:56:04.720 It almost never works.
01:56:06.660 Never, never.
01:56:07.560 I mean, do you think it's – you think they're going to –
01:56:09.720 I think the only cases in which you have to do it are cases where it's self-defense.
01:56:13.620 So we've looked at that in some of the officer situations, Kyle Rittenhouse.
01:56:18.620 You have to go on there to establish certain facts if it's a self-defense case.
01:56:23.020 If it's not self-defense, if you're not up there asserting that I was in fear for my life personally and that is why I killed somebody, if it's not self-defense, there's no reason for you to be getting up there on the stand.
01:56:34.140 None whatsoever.
01:56:35.400 Especially in this case where one of the prosecution's witnesses did the work for you.
01:56:39.320 So I only see it as problematic because it's not like Tory was sober.
01:56:43.400 You know what I mean?
01:56:44.020 And he remembers everything clear like, no, like I remember this and that.
01:56:48.620 He was drunk too.
01:56:49.940 So his testimony is not – like Kelsey already did the work for him to be honest with you.
01:56:55.400 So I would be shocked if his defense put her on the stand, put him on the stand at this point.
01:57:01.840 Yeah, Tory Lanez would not be well served to be on the stand.
01:57:06.080 And frankly, you know, I don't think even the bodyguard that was there that night, I think Jaquan Smith,
01:57:11.660 I don't think he would be a good witness either.
01:57:14.680 I think you just kind of want to have both of those guys off the stand.
01:57:17.860 Yeah, yeah.
01:57:18.460 And, you know, I'm surprised they didn't call him, but I mean probably because he's a part of Tory's team.
01:57:25.920 Yes, he's an employee of Tory's team, so they know there would be potential conflict there.
01:57:30.940 Also, I mean he could probably plead the fifth as well because he's implicated in potential crimes there
01:57:35.480 or as an accessory to potential crimes as an agent of Tory Lanez.
01:57:38.720 Exactly, which is why I think that the prosecution was like, no, fuck no, we're not going to –
01:57:42.520 They're dumb.
01:57:42.780 They're not dumb.
01:57:43.380 They're not dumb.
01:57:43.920 They're not going to call him.
01:57:44.240 Yeah, they're not going to bring him on as a witness.
01:57:46.120 The defense might put him on.
01:57:47.940 Now with all the craziness going on and like the defense has been able to create a circus here to some degree
01:57:55.520 and their theory that Kelsey is the shooter now actually can stand because Kelsey is saying, I take the fifth.
01:58:01.180 Well, what would a rational person think?
01:58:02.720 Why is she taking the fifth?
01:58:03.840 Was she the shooter?
01:58:04.400 You know, and then the way that she took the fifth was problematic because they're like, all right,
01:58:09.620 did Tory threaten Meg to shoot her?
01:58:12.080 Yes.
01:58:12.560 Okay.
01:58:13.120 Under what context did he threaten her?
01:58:14.820 I take the fifth.
01:58:15.660 What?
01:58:17.000 Yeah, the context because you need the context because the context matters.
01:58:21.200 It's motivation.
01:58:22.360 You need to prove motive.
01:58:24.560 Why did Tory Lanez shoot Meg the Stallion?
01:58:29.760 It's crazy, man.
01:58:32.280 But my prediction is there is no way at this point that he's going to get convicted.
01:58:38.340 And let's say he does get found guilty.
01:58:41.820 He has appeal upon appeal that he could file on this thing.
01:58:44.660 This thing was a clown world circus, which is in the state court.
01:58:48.580 And by the way, not just for trial, but throughout the whole process of how the interviews were conducted, how things went down, evidence preservation.
01:58:57.160 There's all sorts of issues with this trial.
01:58:58.840 I think he would he would definitely win a appeal, which is why I think he probably doesn't have to worry too much about being deported.
01:59:05.480 I think that he's he's probably all right on that because it probably will be his deportation, I imagine, will be stayed pending the appeal.
01:59:13.180 I think they would let that resolve.
01:59:15.340 What do you think was the biggest mess up from from this overall, whether it be from the defense or from the from the state?
01:59:22.580 Well, I think I think, number one, having an expert get up there and testify against your interest.
01:59:27.260 That is a massive fail.
01:59:30.280 That's one.
01:59:31.140 And the other one is obviously what happened with Kelsey Harris.
01:59:33.840 You have somebody get up on the stand and drop that and you haven't negotiated that beforehand looks horrible to a jury that looks like that person has is guilty and they have something to hide.
01:59:46.320 If the first word, remember what I said?
01:59:48.620 What do they remember?
01:59:49.340 The first thing and last thing.
01:59:50.960 So same thing for a witness.
01:59:52.440 They remember the first things the witness said in the last things the witness said.
01:59:56.380 So the first thing they remember is I plead the fifth.
01:59:59.500 And the last thing is, did the prosecution ask you to lie?
02:00:03.020 Yes.
02:00:04.920 Yeah.
02:00:05.660 That's what they get from Kelsey Harris.
02:00:07.260 Just those two things.
02:00:08.600 That's that's not looking good.
02:00:10.160 Even though she didn't say that the prosecution made her lie.
02:00:13.220 The fact she said, well, the prosecution basically she said the prosecution pressured me.
02:00:17.580 Yeah.
02:00:18.440 So, you know what I mean?
02:00:19.780 Like a jury can look at that because you guys got to remember the jurors are regular people like every day.
02:00:23.700 Like they're kind of like they're like like to them.
02:00:26.460 They're looking at this like, what the hell?
02:00:27.720 This is weird.
02:00:28.300 So can you convict a man right with all this evidence that shows that he might have not been the shooter and you guys got to remember that.
02:00:35.820 It's a gross negligence.
02:00:37.920 And when the standard for a lot is gross negligence and you got to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt.
02:00:42.900 So you've got to prove that he was grossly negligent beyond a reasonable doubt so that he was acting in a way that was, you know, wantonly malicious almost.
02:00:51.720 You're acting in a way that, like I said, firing into a crowd, doing something really reckless beyond a reasonable doubt.
02:00:57.180 They haven't even come to like greater.
02:00:59.760 They haven't even beat 50 percent.
02:01:01.600 Right.
02:01:02.120 They haven't even beat probability flip of a coin that it was Tory Lane's.
02:01:06.960 And at that point, that's not criminal, people.
02:01:09.680 That might be civil.
02:01:10.940 It ain't criminal.
02:01:12.060 It's definitely not criminal.
02:01:13.060 And by the way, I think they lose in a civil suit.
02:01:14.660 I think Meg would never take him in a civil suit because I think even there, he cannot, she cannot prove that he was the proximate cause of the damage.
02:01:22.660 Well, I'll tell you this.
02:01:23.760 If he wins this thing, he has a defamation suit coming for her so bad.
02:01:28.500 Oh, bro.
02:01:30.680 If he gets acquitted of these charges, Meg Thee Stallion, not only is she going to get ridiculed, but she is going to get destroyed by Tory Lane's defamation lawyer.
02:01:43.020 She could.
02:01:43.640 She could.
02:01:44.260 Now, it might be the bigger law might be in the media.
02:01:46.480 The bigger L might be in the media.
02:01:48.000 Right.
02:01:48.400 She's probably going to take a bigger L in the media that you want in defamation court.
02:01:52.760 You're seeing even now in defamation court with Johnny Depp versus Amber Heard.
02:01:55.920 Amber's appealing that already.
02:01:57.200 So that's all that's all cut up in the weeds for a while.
02:01:59.960 It doesn't hit them right away.
02:02:01.220 So they've got that delay built in there.
02:02:03.240 And they also have potential to reduce the amount of the damages.
02:02:05.680 But I think the amount that she's taken an L in media and people like you that are putting out the truth on this, it's helping.
02:02:13.380 Because there's people out there that are focusing on this story.
02:02:16.320 And when I read about this online, all I see is shit like, oh, Meg, Meg, the stallion is subject to so much online hate this and that.
02:02:24.740 They're not talking about the facts of the case.
02:02:26.540 They're not talking about the facts of the incident.
02:02:28.340 They're out there spouting bullshit.
02:02:30.500 And there's certainly a lot of these people are not lawyers and they're certainly not former law enforcement agents.
02:02:35.120 So they don't know what the fuck they're talking about when they talk about this.
02:02:39.040 And I'll tell you guys this.
02:02:40.140 So I wrote down some of the mistakes that I think the prosecution has done on this thing.
02:02:43.860 Number one, they clout chase this thing, man.
02:02:46.280 Let's keep it a thousand.
02:02:47.240 You know what I mean?
02:02:47.700 Like if this was just a regular situation with some regular people with these facts, I don't think the D.A. would go as hard as to take this thing.
02:02:55.440 But they took it because obviously it's high profile.
02:02:58.120 You got a black woman being shot by a black man.
02:03:01.960 And it's like, let's go ahead and, you know, prosecute this.
02:03:05.260 Meg is the victim, et cetera.
02:03:06.880 So it's a clout chase.
02:03:08.140 And this is, you know, failed Los Angeles before.
02:03:10.780 Obviously, look at the O.J. trial, which is probably one of the biggest black guys in Los Angeles prosecution, prosecutorial history.
02:03:16.440 Then you got they interviewed Kelsey way too late.
02:03:20.360 They interviewed her two years after the fact, which to me is in fucking saying that investigators didn't go ahead and get an interview from her right after.
02:03:28.220 OK, then you got the lead detective is on admin leave or potentially getting terminated, which to me is crazy, bro.
02:03:37.880 So like if you got if you had a federal case and the main case agent was in serious trouble like this, bro, I mean, you'd be damn near close to like, can we still do this thing or whatever?
02:03:49.200 But obviously, at this point, it's a high profile case.
02:03:51.560 The D.A. can't dismiss the case.
02:03:53.560 Right. So they had to see it through.
02:03:55.500 That's why you got a detective that comes in.
02:03:57.480 Oh, yeah, I listened to the jail calls a week ago.
02:03:59.720 What the fuck?
02:04:00.960 Yo, this case has been going on for two plus for two plus years.
02:04:04.060 You're telling me that you just listened to the jail calls a week ago when this stuff, when this shit happened back in July of 2020.
02:04:11.140 What the hell are you talking about?
02:04:13.460 That is sloppy.
02:04:14.820 That is sloppy for especially when you have somebody that's of the profile of Tory Lanez.
02:04:20.700 You need to take this shit serious.
02:04:22.280 You can't just half ass this like that's not possible.
02:04:25.520 So one of the detectives.
02:04:26.580 Yeah, I listened to it last week.
02:04:27.740 Incredible.
02:04:28.280 So that's how I knew that they just brought some random guy in to take over this case because this other guy got in trouble.
02:04:32.640 And let me be honest with y'all.
02:04:33.960 Anytime you absolve a case from someone else and it gets dropped on your lap, you're not going to take it serious because it's not your baby.
02:04:39.280 If anything, I guarantee you that LAPD is like, fuck, bro.
02:04:42.360 I don't want to do this shit.
02:04:43.560 This is a pain in the ass.
02:04:44.820 This is bringing all this media scrutiny.
02:04:46.880 Like, this is annoying, you know.
02:04:48.940 And then also the police that arrived on the scene not properly corning off the area and marking the bullet cases and everything properly.
02:04:58.060 Big fucking L for them as well, you know, because the number one way to destroy a case from the police is to attack the evidence and attack the way in which the evidence was gathered.
02:05:10.780 In this case, you got a detective that's in trouble administratively that has Giglio issues.
02:05:15.540 Now you also got police officers that showed up at the scene that didn't gather the evidence properly so that you can have a clear picture of what the hell happened.
02:05:21.880 You got DNA experts saying, yo, we can't conclusively say that Tory Lane's DNA is on the gun.
02:05:29.360 OK, but if he did shoot it five times, we should probably see his DNA on the gun.
02:05:33.980 None of this is a W for the prosecution.
02:05:36.540 It's a big L altogether.
02:05:37.680 So this all together put, you know, Kelsey going at their primary witness, taking the fifth and the inference that she could have been potentially the shooter.
02:05:46.640 All of this has created reasonable doubt that Tory Lanez is innocent.
02:05:51.540 And I would be shocked if they found him guilty.
02:05:55.300 There's no way.
02:05:56.460 There's no way.
02:05:57.160 And from what I've seen, the jury's already kind of been like, what the hell is going on?
02:06:01.420 When Kelsey took the fifth and gave contradictory statements, they were like, whatever.
02:06:05.240 And then you got Meg Thee Stallion lying on other interviews and then coming in under oath and then giving another story.
02:06:12.300 So what's the wrong?
02:06:13.580 Literally, the prosecution.
02:06:15.120 Oh, my God.
02:06:16.500 The prosecution does not have a single credible witness.
02:06:23.160 Facts.
02:06:23.720 A single credible, especially the eyewitness testimony.
02:06:27.000 It doesn't have one.
02:06:28.280 This is a case where, frankly, I am shocked they brought this.
02:06:33.280 Based on the facts.
02:06:35.240 Lack of credibility for these witnesses.
02:06:37.560 You got to have one.
02:06:38.720 You got to have one.
02:06:40.140 Yo, now that you say that.
02:06:42.260 Yo.
02:06:42.540 I don't have one.
02:06:43.040 The prosecution does have one credible witness.
02:06:46.860 Even the detective that ran this case is under investigation.
02:06:50.760 What the fuck is going on, bro?
02:06:54.740 You're right.
02:06:55.380 They really don't even have one credible witness.
02:06:58.700 No.
02:06:59.700 No.
02:07:00.360 Not even there.
02:07:00.940 And their expert didn't even help them out.
02:07:02.620 This is so bad.
02:07:04.120 This is like, like, literally, are you guys making a mockery?
02:07:07.280 Like, is this a game to you guys?
02:07:09.100 Like, fucking with somebody's life?
02:07:11.280 Like, the ability to get him deported?
02:07:12.880 Is this a fucking game to you that you brought this?
02:07:15.300 And that's why you guys say there's definitely political pressure.
02:07:17.840 There's some sort of something.
02:07:18.700 There's something going on here to bring this case.
02:07:21.300 Because this is just absolutely a clown show.
02:07:24.320 This would not be brought in most jurisdictions where I've, you know, litigate, where I've, you know, served, where I've been.
02:07:30.360 It's been something that really hasn't come up in anything I've seen based on this lack of evidence.
02:07:35.540 They wouldn't even indict.
02:07:37.100 No.
02:07:37.540 No.
02:07:37.900 I don't even think.
02:07:38.760 Or if they did indict, they would dismiss the indictment after shit like this.
02:07:42.560 And the other thing, too, by the prosecution that really shocks me.
02:07:46.420 Do you guys not fucking prepare your witnesses?
02:07:48.520 Like, what the hell is this?
02:07:50.600 If you go to trial, you got to prepare your witnesses.
02:07:52.780 Like, how do you have a witness come in and take the fifth?
02:07:54.940 That tells me they did not prepare her.
02:07:57.700 That's crazy to me, bro.
02:07:58.900 That is crazy to me.
02:08:00.180 This is just sloppy police work, inexperienced prosecutors, cloud chasing DA's office, trying to go ahead and get a high-profile case, regardless of what the evidence is.
02:08:11.680 Like, you said it perfectly.
02:08:13.180 They don't have one credible witness on the prosecution side.
02:08:16.640 And, guys, trust me.
02:08:17.380 I looked at this case like, okay, let's see what Matt got to say.
02:08:20.120 I did look at it impartially.
02:08:21.620 But as I continue to go through the evidence, listen to the testimony, everything else, bro, this is a fucking L for the prosecution.
02:08:28.880 And that's how I started, too, Myron.
02:08:32.300 Because we all come in with our opinions, right?
02:08:33.900 And we all have our biases, right?
02:08:36.060 But I come in like, okay, let me look at the legal perspective, which is agnostic to, you know, biases and prejudice and whatever.
02:08:42.760 And let me look at the jury's perspective.
02:08:44.860 How is this jury going to view this?
02:08:47.000 And it doesn't look good.
02:08:48.100 I don't give a shit whether they've listened to WAP or not.
02:08:50.280 This does not look good.
02:08:51.660 This does not sound good.
02:08:53.280 Right?
02:08:53.820 Don't die there, Myron.
02:08:55.500 But it does not matter.
02:08:56.880 It literally does not matter.
02:08:58.340 Because this looks like there's a bunch of liars for the prosecution.
02:09:02.600 And they've really not got shit on this guy.
02:09:06.360 They've got accused.
02:09:07.340 And they're trying to lock him up for a long time, a significant period of time.
02:09:11.640 WAP has a lot to lose here, man.
02:09:12.860 Because not only is he going to go to prison, he's going to get deported.
02:09:16.880 He's going to get deported.
02:09:17.960 He'll never be able to come back to the United States again.
02:09:19.840 He will be an excluded alien, right?
02:09:22.300 Which means he can't come back.
02:09:24.240 Which means he can't do shows in the U.S.
02:09:25.980 He can't perform in the U.S.
02:09:27.460 He can't do anything.
02:09:28.600 And for anyone that knows anything about the music industry, most artists make most of their money from touring and doing appearances and doing club walkthroughs.
02:09:37.380 Especially in the U.S.
02:09:39.200 Especially in the U.S.
02:09:40.460 Like definitely in the U.S.
02:09:42.900 So he would have to rely on the Canadian audience and being international, which he would still do okay.
02:09:47.660 But he would lose a significant amount of money.
02:09:49.740 And here's the thing y'all don't know, too.
02:09:51.680 Tory's already been blackballed by the industry.
02:09:53.880 Like significantly since this.
02:09:55.360 Because like Meg, right, is smart.
02:09:57.980 She went ahead and took the victim route.
02:09:59.420 And not only does she take the victim route, I'm a black woman and I was victimized.
02:10:02.760 Yeah, that's double.
02:10:03.440 That's two points.
02:10:04.220 Yeah, immediately she's going to get public sympathy.
02:10:06.700 We live in a world nowadays where it's believe our women.
02:10:08.940 You know, we saw the same thing happen with Johnny Depp and Amber Heard.
02:10:13.980 Right?
02:10:14.180 And, hey, man.
02:10:16.780 And we're seeing, and Myron, the thing is like, you know, and I know you try to keep the two things separate.
02:10:20.900 But the thing is we're seeing more and more bleed over this into the courtroom.
02:10:24.020 And we're seeing more and more how mainstream media and pop culture is trying to literally impact the courtroom.
02:10:30.480 They're trying to lay down cover fire.
02:10:32.120 They're trying to lay down a narrative.
02:10:33.440 And they're also trying to tell you as the case is going on, as we're literally seeing these facts, they're trying to tell you, oh, but Meg is still the victim here, guys.
02:10:40.680 Because they're literally trying to gaslight you live and pretend like everybody is an idiot who can't just pay attention to the trial, watch, see what actually happens.
02:10:49.720 They're just lying and lying and lying.
02:10:51.740 And we're seeing this on a regular basis, which is really that nexus of law and pop culture, which I'm always here for, because it's infecting all aspects of our life.
02:11:00.420 Yeah, because that's the that's the one place, Myron, I think, where we can say, hey, the process is pretty fair.
02:11:06.300 And the fact that it's fair, the fact that it works out, not all the time, not all the time.
02:11:10.420 Sometimes it's unfair.
02:11:11.100 But the fact that it works out, at least more often than not, they don't like that, because in the courtroom, it's facts over feelings.
02:11:19.700 Big facts, man.
02:11:20.880 And modern day America, modern day Western Europe, you know, Canada, we can't deal with that.
02:11:27.400 Not we, because obviously Myron and I can deal with it.
02:11:29.720 But most people out there cannot deal with facts over feelings.
02:11:33.220 And courtrooms get rid of that.
02:11:34.820 They get rid of the bullshit.
02:11:36.220 They get rid of the lies.
02:11:37.240 And they call you out.
02:11:38.540 If you've said something that's a lie, they call you out on it.
02:11:42.440 That's something mainstream media doesn't do.
02:11:44.460 It doesn't happen really anywhere except for in the courtroom.
02:11:47.940 Absolutely, man.
02:11:48.720 And that's that's why rule of law and, you know, you got to come in with facts and not feelings.
02:11:52.680 It's so important.
02:11:53.280 I mean, we live in a world now where, you know, that woman, what's her?
02:11:56.180 I forget the lady's name that was writing a book, but she came out of nowhere and just accused Brett Kavanaugh of like assaulting her like 30, 40 years ago.
02:12:04.620 And I was like, what the hell?
02:12:06.140 And the dude had to actually take the stand.
02:12:08.060 He had to he had to go ahead and give a whole testimony under oath about I didn't do this, blah, blah, blah.
02:12:15.160 And and off of an allegation was zero proof.
02:12:18.060 We live in a crazy world now, guys, where it's believe all women or whatever.
02:12:21.660 And I'm glad that these cases are kind of being, you know, brought out into the limelight.
02:12:25.800 And you guys are being you guys are seeing, yo, women are capable of lying, too.
02:12:30.100 Oh, yeah.
02:12:30.680 Oh, yeah.
02:12:31.460 Oh, yeah.
02:12:31.820 We got this case.
02:12:32.800 Shit.
02:12:32.940 I've been covering Courtney Clinton.
02:12:34.280 That one got bumped.
02:12:35.040 But that one's going to be big when it goes down.
02:12:37.360 I mean, you're seeing on that one.
02:12:39.140 Courtney Clinton.
02:12:40.080 Yeah, it got bumped.
02:12:41.000 It got bumped.
02:12:42.400 Guys, just so you know, this is the only fans girl that stabbed their boyfriend right here in Miami up the road.
02:12:48.220 Andrew's been following that one very closely.
02:12:49.700 We should probably go back on that one.
02:12:51.000 Actually, we definitely we definitely will, especially when it gets closer to the actual trial.
02:12:54.200 It got bumped till February.
02:12:55.140 I'm not sure whether trial is going to actually go in February or not.
02:12:58.140 There's a hearing then.
02:12:59.360 So they'll probably set it.
02:13:00.500 They'll probably set it either near, you know, Florida.
02:13:04.400 Except forever, bro.
02:13:05.080 Florida, California, Texas are the worst fucking states, bro.
02:13:08.640 They never go.
02:13:09.220 I'm going to tell you.
02:13:09.820 I'm going to tell you one thing.
02:13:10.740 If you waive your right to a speedy trial in Florida, you are fucking waiving your right.
02:13:15.900 You're giving them the ability to extend that thing forever.
02:13:19.420 And a lot of defense attorneys, a lot of defense attorneys will tell you to extend it, but do not do it.
02:13:25.720 Like Melly's been in jail since like 2018, 2019, dude.
02:13:29.440 Yeah.
02:13:30.060 He still hasn't went to trial.
02:13:30.960 They've been pushing back that trial.
02:13:32.180 That's what happens.
02:13:32.720 You waive your speedy trial.
02:13:33.720 They're like, oh, okay.
02:13:34.340 We're just going to drag our feet on this thing.
02:13:36.040 Yep.
02:13:36.360 Why should we?
02:13:36.900 Why should we care?
02:13:37.660 We got 500 cases right back here.
02:13:39.320 We got to process.
02:13:40.300 Yep.
02:13:40.700 And she got denied bond too, right?
02:13:43.540 Yep.
02:13:44.060 Yep.
02:13:45.500 Yeah.
02:13:45.820 She got denied bond because she's clearly a flight risk.
02:13:47.900 She, she transferred a million dollars to her dad.
02:13:50.580 You know, she literally was up in, up in Hawaii and her dad's been there, by the way, the entire time on the footage.
02:13:56.040 If you look through the footage, been simping for the entire time that dad's been enabling her bad behavior.
02:14:00.680 Right.
02:14:01.500 You know, so her testimony, like much like this testimony, testimony is kind of changing, right?
02:14:07.000 She went from, hey, I threw the knife to, oh, now it's self-defense and now, okay, maybe I did actually stab him.
02:14:12.020 Right.
02:14:12.360 So the story is changing over time.
02:14:14.600 You're seeing with these girls a little bit of a trend here, but the problem is it's hashtag believe all women.
02:14:19.980 It's, oh my God, look at this poor girl.
02:14:22.020 She was taking advantage of her by her boyfriend, forcing her to do OnlyFans, forcing her to do porn.
02:14:27.260 You know, same thing that Mia Khalifa.
02:14:29.240 It's the, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:14:30.320 Well, it's going to.
02:14:31.440 Forced her?
02:14:32.580 It's building in that direction.
02:14:34.400 I'm seeing it going that direction.
02:14:35.640 Similar to Mia Khalifa, right?
02:14:37.280 Right.
02:14:37.500 Mia Khalifa's story right now is that she was, you know, this is what she was pushed into when she was young and vulnerable.
02:14:43.320 This is where we're going.
02:14:44.900 And, and once again, this is coming from pop culture in the mainstream into the courtroom.
02:14:50.620 Yeah.
02:14:51.520 And people are getting mad because we're spitting facts.
02:14:54.020 Dude, you know, you know, it's crazy about this Courtney Clenney story, because I remember she originally said she threw the knife and then they're like, it doesn't make sense.
02:15:00.300 It's because the force at which the knife hit him is indicative of someone actually stabbing him.
02:15:04.780 There's no way you could have thrown it with that much force to hit him.
02:15:07.500 Worse than that, Myron.
02:15:08.600 They said it's not physically possible for anybody to sink a knife in that deep from that distance.
02:15:13.900 They said it's physically impossible.
02:15:16.180 That's what the MLB pitcher couldn't have done it.
02:15:18.480 No, no, not with it, not that deep of a cut, not that deep of a wound from that distance with throwing on doesn't matter if you're in the Olympics.
02:15:26.920 You're not making that happen, bro, that much accuracy in that area where he would bleed out.
02:15:32.800 Like, bro, it is crazy to me.
02:15:34.560 Like, like, and here's the other part, too.
02:15:36.460 I'm really glad that you mentioned that self-defense people, that self-defense defendants typically have to hit the stand.
02:15:42.700 That means she's going to have to testify.
02:15:44.120 Yes, she's going to have to get on the stand in order to prove self-defense.
02:15:48.620 So you're going to get a great case there whenever that actually goes.
02:15:53.180 It's going to be a great case.
02:15:54.740 So I'm going to be covering that one.
02:15:56.540 And that's the type of stuff I like to cover on my channel, like legal mindset.
02:15:59.380 And I like to give you guys a little background like Myron does and then cover it through the case.
02:16:03.140 If it's a case like that, I may actually be watching the whole trial on my channel and stream it.
02:16:06.620 What are your predictions so far just off of the evidence you have?
02:16:10.100 No, she's not – everything I have, I'm not getting her – I'm not getting self-defense off that.
02:16:14.940 You don't think so?
02:16:15.360 I'm not getting self-defense off that at all.
02:16:16.860 In fact, I think based on the evidence, you could even get Malice off of this.
02:16:22.600 Really?
02:16:23.180 From her.
02:16:25.080 I do think that she would –
02:16:26.600 Malice's?
02:16:27.160 So they understand like –
02:16:28.920 Yeah, so Malice – and Malice can be formed in a second, but Malice is knowingly and intentionally doing something.
02:16:35.760 So I'm killing them with Malice the fourth thought, meaning I thought about it and I did it, right?
02:16:40.440 So I picked up the gun and I shot him.
02:16:42.160 I picked up the knife and I stabbed him.
02:16:44.100 And you did it knowingly.
02:16:45.740 It wasn't an involuntary movement.
02:16:47.640 It wasn't a reaction.
02:16:48.920 It was I picked it up and I knowingly went over there and got him.
02:16:51.920 And this isn't to be confused with premeditation, guys, where it's like I really planned this shit out.
02:16:56.860 You know what I mean?
02:16:57.280 And now I don't think that's going to be the – I don't think that's going to be what's levied.
02:17:00.680 They can probably get her on manslaughter or something less, and I think they will charge her with something less and get her on something less.
02:17:06.140 But I'm saying that I think even this one, you could if you wanted to get her on that.
02:17:09.820 I think she was definitely – you can see from her previous videos and looking at even some of the calls and other evidence that she was intoxicated.
02:17:17.340 Whether she was drunk or on drugs, I don't know.
02:17:19.560 We'd have to see toxicology, but definitely a lot of factors in that one at that point.
02:17:24.440 Is it true that he actually physically assaulted her like she claims?
02:17:28.240 There was no proof of that.
02:17:30.320 I don't think that I've seen so far.
02:17:31.860 That I've seen so far.
02:17:32.640 Unless they've got evidence that we don't know about and they've got their own medical expert they're going to enter, right?
02:17:36.860 These are all things for trial where they might get their own expert in there and say, oh, look, she had this and this on her, which were indicating physical abuse.
02:17:44.320 And then the prosecution could get up their witness and say, nope, this could be this dumb hoe falling drunk down the stairs.
02:17:50.100 And this is why she got this injury, right?
02:17:51.960 And there's video of her assaulting him in an elevator.
02:17:54.520 And then on top of that, I heard friends – I mean, correct me if I'm wrong here.
02:17:57.420 I heard there was friends that had seen her beat on him but never him beat on him.
02:18:01.260 Yes, yes, there's friends that have testified that have come out and put that out there that they've seen her beating on him, her taking advantage of him, and that she targets rich black simps.
02:18:13.780 That's literally what the words were from the friends.
02:18:17.380 Oh, God.
02:18:18.340 So, yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on there.
02:18:22.800 Yeah, because he was like a crypto trader or something like that, if I'm not mistaken.
02:18:28.080 It's something in that field.
02:18:29.520 Dude, I mean, look, this is an L all around.
02:18:34.100 I mean, at the end of the day, it sucks because a guy lost his life.
02:18:36.280 But this is why I tell y'all, man, you got to be careful with these women sometimes, man.
02:18:40.460 Like, this is wild stuff.
02:18:41.580 You got Amber Heard lying on Johnny Depp saying he did all this stuff to her.
02:18:46.080 All of it was false.
02:18:47.360 She ends up taking the L.
02:18:49.600 Now you got Meg DeStuyen saying Tory Lane shot her.
02:18:52.520 Nothing to corroborate that.
02:18:54.140 She's over here lying in interviews.
02:18:55.420 Her testimony is contradictory to her best friend's testimony.
02:18:59.520 You got Courtney Clenney over here saying she threw a knife at her boyfriend with perfect precision and hit him in that aortic valve.
02:19:07.900 And he bled out.
02:19:08.980 You know, meanwhile, a fucking MLB pitcher can't even throw it that hard.
02:19:12.080 Like, bruh, what the fuck is going on here, man, with these girls?
02:19:15.760 It's wild.
02:19:17.340 It's wild.
02:19:17.580 And the last thing you want to do is lose your life, right?
02:19:20.780 You want to lose your life simping.
02:19:22.300 You want to – I mean, look, because at the end of the day, look, at the end of the day, even if she's guilty, a human life was lost.
02:19:28.580 Like, that's not coming back.
02:19:30.540 Like, a guilty verdict doesn't resurrect this guy from the grave, right?
02:19:33.460 Like, he died for this.
02:19:35.120 You know, so you don't want to be out there simping or white knighting or whatever and ending up dead because, yeah, we'll take – we'll hear your case.
02:19:40.900 We'll cover it.
02:19:41.780 I'll come out there and push for justice, but it's not going to bring your life back.
02:19:45.140 So the best thing is preventative medicine if you're watching this.
02:19:48.100 Yeah, you guys just got to be careful, bro.
02:19:49.620 Like, you got three instances here.
02:19:51.220 This is – 2022 is about to be the year that – like, 2022 – like, 2022, like, going into 2023, 2024 because Clenney's probably going to go on trial.
02:19:59.420 Yeah.
02:19:59.820 This is going to be the year of just exposing girls that lie on dudes, bro.
02:20:03.320 Yeah.
02:20:03.560 This is crazy.
02:20:05.080 This is about to be three L's back to back to back.
02:20:07.400 The pendulum is swinging back the other way, and the truth is swinging back the other way because people are out here spitting truth on a regular basis, and you all know that Myron is always willing to do that, and that's why I'm always willing to come on with him at any time.
02:20:20.600 That's all about it.
02:20:21.700 We would tell you if the guy was in a row, we would tell you, yo, this guy, he fucked up, blah, blah, blah.
02:20:26.080 If Torrey really shot her, I'd be here like, yo, yeah, he more than likely shot her.
02:20:30.060 But, guys, with the evidence at hand right now – because these are all the main witnesses that went.
02:20:33.960 Everybody at this point, guys, is going to be what I call, like, an accessory witness.
02:20:37.520 The star witnesses are done, bro.
02:20:39.160 All right?
02:20:39.720 So off of the main testimony, what's the witness going to say?
02:20:43.780 Oh, I saw the girl's fighting.
02:20:46.100 We know that already.
02:20:47.180 You know?
02:20:47.720 What's the other police officer going to say?
02:20:49.220 Well, the defense is going to come in and tear him up.
02:20:50.860 That's only going to help the defense.
02:20:52.320 So who's the prosecution going to call?
02:20:53.820 They have no one else to really call.
02:21:00.100 That's pretty much it.
02:21:01.980 You know?
02:21:02.640 And just like Andrew said perfectly, they don't have one credible witness, man.
02:21:06.260 So anyway, it is what it is, man.
02:21:08.880 We'll see what happens this week.
02:21:09.840 I think they're going to wrap it up.
02:21:10.760 We'll see what happens.
02:21:12.460 But, Andrew, where can the people find you?
02:21:14.100 Dude, you guys can find me on my channel, Legal Mindset, on YouTube and on Rumble.
02:21:18.240 I do put some exclusive content out on Rumble sometimes as well.
02:21:20.820 Also, more importantly, LegalMindset.Locals.com.
02:21:24.060 That is my exclusive community.
02:21:25.320 I put exclusive content out there almost every day during the week.
02:21:28.760 I have after parties after my shows.
02:21:32.080 We just talk.
02:21:33.000 I drop the suit.
02:21:34.480 Talk completely unscripted, unfiltered, 100% uncensored.
02:21:40.080 So that's a great place to find me as well.
02:21:42.100 LegalMindset.Locals.com.
02:21:44.460 Otherwise, subscribe to my channel.
02:21:45.520 I'm almost to 100K.
02:21:46.680 So we're on the push to 100K.
02:21:47.960 I want to do it in the next couple months.
02:21:50.000 We can do it.
02:21:51.000 And you know what?
02:21:51.360 Just because I love you, I'm going to run through these Super Chats real quick before we get off.
02:21:54.640 All right.
02:21:54.840 So I got here.
02:21:55.440 Buy one BBL.
02:21:56.000 Get one free.
02:21:56.560 Always wonder why the driver was not subpoenaed if he is the key witness and saw everything.
02:21:59.460 We went into that already.
02:22:00.320 Why we – you know, of course, that's speculation why we think he wasn't called.
02:22:03.220 But that's why.
02:22:04.140 The prosecution is smart enough to understand.
02:22:06.240 We're not going to bring in someone from Tory's team to testify.
02:22:09.300 CoolBreezeTV goes, this trial became Peg the Meg for real.
02:22:12.240 Okay.
02:22:12.940 Roy Littlepage goes, just watch the Zodiac, bro.
02:22:15.500 IHOP stands for International House of Pancakes.
02:22:17.400 Enjoying this breakdown.
02:22:18.180 Keep it up.
02:22:18.480 Thank you.
02:22:18.800 I appreciate that.
02:22:19.680 Maddie Ciesia goes, Tory should have chose the other lane.
02:22:22.900 SMH.
02:22:23.240 Yeah, it happens.
02:22:24.220 Just came from the Rolo, but I've been wanting to hear about this.
02:22:26.340 Got you, Christopher Harris.
02:22:27.120 Time stamps will be back.
02:22:27.860 I'm going to put detail stamps in this for y'all, by the way.
02:22:29.980 Who needs a British black single mama who won't listen when you got a Latina in America that will?
02:22:34.620 W. Christina.
02:22:35.240 All right.
02:22:35.380 Shout out to Christina.
02:22:35.880 She's helping out behind the scenes.
02:22:37.020 Can you break down the Stuart Rhodes and Oathkeeper case?
02:22:39.460 He just convicted of sedacious conspiracy for the Capitol riots.
02:22:42.560 I was one of the jurors.
02:22:43.980 Heard of this?
02:22:44.640 Whoa.
02:22:45.500 The Capitol riots.
02:22:46.480 Yeah.
02:22:46.620 I mean, obviously there's the J6 stuff.
02:22:50.060 I mean, that stuff is still very spicy to talk about on YouTube.
02:22:53.280 That's stuff that might have to be a Rumble exclusive.
02:22:55.480 Because when you start talking about J6, people get really, really triggered.
02:23:00.080 And right now they're actually going back and doing a lot of, I don't know if you've heard about this, Myron,
02:23:03.380 but a lot of people are getting strikes for old stuff they're talking about, like around J6 and around Rona and stuff like that.
02:23:09.820 So I know about it, but I try to keep it pretty close to the vest.
02:23:13.500 Because if you get into the facts about that stuff, people get very, very angry because there's a certain narrative.
02:23:19.260 And whenever you disrupt the narrative, people get angry.
02:23:22.200 Bam.
02:23:22.580 All right.
02:23:22.960 Fair enough.
02:23:24.080 King Life goes, can the prosecutor just rest the case and dismiss at this point?
02:23:26.920 No, they're too deep, bro.
02:23:27.700 They're going to have to hold the cell.
02:23:29.680 Three Diglets.
02:23:30.440 Megan Thee Stallion is my queen.
02:23:31.700 I know he's trolling.
02:23:32.580 Hey, I love this channel.
02:23:33.400 Can you do a breakdown of killing of Don Henry and Kevin Ives' case?
02:23:37.060 Never heard of it.
02:23:38.320 Maybe I will down the road.
02:23:40.500 Christopher Harris.
02:23:41.280 Fire emojis.
02:23:41.780 Thank you so much.
02:23:42.260 I mean, Daniel goes, another killer collab coverage of another amber turd type trying to destroy this man's life.
02:23:47.240 This expose is very important.
02:23:48.640 Thank you, guys.
02:23:49.080 We got you, guys.
02:23:50.360 This is better than corn.
02:23:51.860 P.
02:23:52.240 Okay.
02:23:52.620 That's from Monkey D.
02:23:53.260 Usopp.
02:23:54.240 WRDA goes, I think Meg shot herself.
02:23:56.180 Just saw the gun in the car.
02:23:57.920 Tory came out the car to calm Meg down.
02:23:59.820 Meg was the one saying, dance, bitch, dance.
02:24:01.720 Okay.
02:24:02.040 That's, I guess, your, I don't think so.
02:24:03.720 But I will say this, too.
02:24:04.760 Oh, important thing.
02:24:05.880 They didn't collect DNA from Meg or from Kelsey, guys.
02:24:08.900 Weird.
02:24:09.380 Weird that they didn't do that.
02:24:10.800 Weird that they didn't do that.
02:24:12.100 Right?
02:24:12.760 Oh.
02:24:13.400 Boom.
02:24:13.800 Oh, God.
02:24:14.060 They were so convinced that Tory was the shooter.
02:24:15.920 So they did not collect evidence.
02:24:17.280 Sorry.
02:24:17.760 The DNA from those two.
02:24:18.880 But there were four DNA profiles on that farm.
02:24:21.320 So I would not be surprised if everyone in that vehicle touched the gun at some point, potentially.
02:24:26.980 Let's see here.
02:24:27.680 The truth will prevail from Charles.
02:24:29.780 Tory is not guilty.
02:24:31.080 Maren.
02:24:31.500 And this is why they deserve less.
02:24:32.980 Yes.
02:24:33.160 Book coming soon.
02:24:33.780 Why women deserve less.
02:24:34.860 Kelsey shot Meg.
02:24:35.840 And Tory said, damn, B.
02:24:36.980 Okay.
02:24:38.240 Meg put the beats on Kelsey.
02:24:39.640 Kelsey pulled the burner.
02:24:40.620 Okay.
02:24:41.120 Osmosis.
02:24:41.560 And then Meg built like Bojack Horseman.
02:24:43.620 Meg built like big game James Worthy.
02:24:45.280 Oh, my God.
02:24:46.200 And then these Meg, dude, these Meg built like in the chats are like destroying me, man.
02:24:51.000 Like, they're so good, man.
02:24:52.840 Shout out to the chat.
02:24:54.240 And then someone said here from Terry Brown, Ebro and Maul should be embarrassed.
02:24:57.760 I don't know why.
02:24:58.700 I don't know why they should be embarrassed.
02:25:01.420 Maybe they said something to the contrary of what we said.
02:25:03.720 But y'all got the facts now, man, pretty much.
02:25:05.800 This is the testimony from five days of trial.
02:25:08.560 The main stuff was covered this week, guys.
02:25:10.360 Anything else at this point?
02:25:12.760 The witness put all their best stuff out there.
02:25:15.120 And it was an L.
02:25:16.100 I'm just going to be sitting with popcorn waiting for the closing argument.
02:25:19.880 And I'm going to cover that.
02:25:21.300 I'll probably do that whenever it comes out because I just want to see what they have to say.
02:25:25.160 Like, what shit are they going to try to say to salvage this?
02:25:27.400 Like, what are they going to say at the closing?
02:25:28.940 When you do it, let me know.
02:25:30.520 Yeah, I'll let you know.
02:25:31.360 I'll let you know.
02:25:32.200 We'll react to it together and see what happens.
02:25:35.040 Yeah, that could be a great one because, I mean, like, honestly, like, shit.
02:25:39.240 This at this point is insane.
02:25:42.160 It's really insane.
02:25:43.280 Absolutely.
02:25:44.880 Guys, I hope you guys enjoyed this stream, bro.
02:25:46.900 This was probably the most definitive, most comprehensive breakdown on this trial on YouTube
02:25:53.680 because you got two experts, someone that's been to trial before in a criminal case and ran a trial as the lead investigator.
02:25:59.120 You got a practicing attorney who's actually litigated.
02:26:01.620 A lot of you attorneys have never argued in court before, which is a big fucking problem, right?
02:26:05.740 So, guys, I hope you enjoyed that breakdown.
02:26:07.700 I'm going to put detailed timestamps in here day by day, witness by witness, you know, portion by portion, definitions.
02:26:14.380 All that stuff is going to be in the description box.
02:26:16.040 So this will be your one-stop shop to get the stuff.
02:26:18.980 Make sure you subscribe to Legal Mindset, okay?
02:26:21.560 Get them to $100,000.
02:26:22.640 I want you guys to prioritize this channel over mine.
02:26:24.360 I don't even give a fuck.
02:26:25.200 I'll hit him $100,000.
02:26:26.040 Help him hit $100,000.
02:26:27.680 Like the video.
02:26:28.740 Hope you guys enjoyed this one.
02:26:30.220 And, Andrew, I'll give you the last word.
02:26:31.680 What do you got to say to people?
02:26:32.320 All right, man.
02:26:33.040 Come over there, guys.
02:26:33.980 Make sure you're subscribed.
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02:26:40.460 because, guys, a rising tide rises all boats.
02:26:44.080 We all grow together and we all come together to give you facts over feelings.
02:26:49.360 Man, couldn't have said it better myself.
02:26:51.400 Peace out, guys.
02:26:52.120 I'll see you on the next episode of Fed It probably on Thursday.
02:26:54.700 BTK, I'm thinking later.
02:26:58.860 I was a special agent with Homeland Security Investigations, okay, guys?
02:27:01.660 HSI.
02:27:02.020 The cases that I did mostly were human smuggling and drug trafficking.
02:27:07.480 No one else has these documents, by the way.
02:27:09.660 Here's what Fed It covers.
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