The Debrief With MyronGainesX - Fed Reacts To Undercover Cop & Doctor Testify In YNW Melly Trial!

00:00:00.840 And we are live. What's up? Sorry, guys, I still haven't slept yet. We're live. What's up? Welcome to FedReacts. As you guys know, the Mellie trial is underway live right now. So what I'm going to do without further ado is start pulling it up on screen and we're going to start reacting to it just to give you guys an update of what the hell is going on here.

00:00:16.940 Right now, the defense is cross examining. OK, the prosecution's witness, who is a undercover Bexar County sheriff's deputy that does narcotics and gang investigations, narcotics, firearms and gang investigations.

00:00:34.160 There was a little bit of controversy because he wore a mask, if I'm not mistaken, on the first day that he testified. But now I believe he's unmasked.

00:00:42.160 But what's going on now is they just they're just not showing his face. So, yeah, you know, rare situation on FedReacts.

00:00:49.420 You guys know I normally don't do live streams in the middle of the day or in the morning like this. But obviously it's a trial. Let's go ahead and react to this thing live. Let's get into it.

00:00:56.920 The shit I did, that also means for the hands I killed for 30 a.m. Never say when.

00:01:05.740 The shit I did.

00:01:06.740 Right. I want to play this now for you.

00:01:12.740 No regrets for the shit I did, that also means for the niggas I have. 1.00

00:01:20.740 Oh, gosh.

00:01:22.740 Oh, 30 a.m. Never say when.

00:01:27.740 OK.

00:01:28.740 OK.

00:01:29.740 OK.

00:01:30.740 OK.

00:01:31.740 OK.

00:01:32.740 Well, actually, he doesn't say the word kill. He uses a gesture for that.

00:01:39.740 Yeah.

00:01:40.740 Don't play it again.

00:01:41.740 No regrets for the shit I did, that also means for the niggas I have. 1.00

00:01:46.740 Oh, 30 a.m. Never say when.

00:01:52.740 OK.

00:01:54.740 OK.

00:01:55.740 You heard that?

00:01:57.740 You heard that?

00:01:58.740 Yeah.

00:01:59.740 I'm hearing it.

00:02:00.740 Like I said, I can't memorize the lyrics.

00:02:02.740 No, no, no.

00:02:03.740 That's fine.

00:02:04.740 I just want to see it side by side.

00:02:05.740 OK.

00:02:06.740 I'm not trying to be difficult.

00:02:07.740 No, I know you're not.

00:02:08.740 I know you're not.

00:02:09.740 It's my fault.

00:02:15.740 You say the wrong thing out there.

00:02:18.740 No regrets for the shit I did, that also means for the niggas I have. 1.00

00:02:37.740 Oh, 30 a.m.

00:02:39.740 Never say when.

00:02:41.740 Except for leaving out killed and getting something.

00:02:46.740 OK.

00:02:47.740 Yesterday, Ms. Bradley said, did you hear them say both of them yesterday when she said that?

00:02:57.740 Yeah.

00:02:58.740 No, no.

00:02:59.740 Now I'm listening to it, no.

00:03:00.740 You don't hear that?

00:03:01.740 No.

00:03:02.740 OK.

00:03:03.740 So you didn't help her decipher that before, did you?

00:03:06.740 No, sir.

00:03:07.740 It's identical, except for the gesture in place of the word kid.

00:03:11.740 Correct.

00:03:12.740 OK.

00:03:13.740 Thank you.

00:03:22.740 The defense would like to move in.

00:03:25.740 Dependents exhibit C for identification. 1.00

00:03:29.740 Without objection.

00:03:32.740 OK.

00:03:33.740 Thank you.

00:03:34.740 That's the 7th mark.

00:03:35.740 Dependents C, is that right?

00:03:38.740 Identification will be admitted to it.

00:03:41.740 Depends to it.

00:03:42.740 Depends to it.

00:03:43.740 Free, or is it something else in evidence?

00:03:46.740 By the defense?

00:03:47.740 Depends to it.

00:03:48.740 Marked for exhibits or for evidence?

00:03:52.740 What will be defense for?

00:03:54.740 Right.

00:03:55.740 Depends to it.

00:03:56.740 There's nothing else.

00:03:57.740 Get me back to this.

00:03:58.740 Excuse me.

00:03:59.740 Yeah.

00:04:00.740 Okay.

00:04:01.740 Thank you.

00:04:03.740 Come on.

00:04:08.740 Thank you.

00:04:13.740 Thank you.

00:04:15.740 Hello!

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00:04:23.740 Hi.

00:04:24.740 Hello!

00:04:25.740 Let's see...

00:04:26.740 okay so you're telling us you didn't assist the state in coming up with the conclusion that it

00:04:41.500 says both of them no sir okay all right all right we were also speaking yesterday about

00:04:49.120 the fact that malley was largely unresponsive to many of the overtures that were being made

00:05:04.360 the attempts to recruit him right i think he was already recruited but the like yeah what you're

00:05:12.380 saying is he wasn't responding to the people who were messaging him okay and i had gone through a

00:05:21.260 list of or a demonstration of several messages that were not being responded to right right

00:05:30.920 and i think i asked you later all right for some of you guys that just joined uh that might be

00:05:37.160 confused what the hell's going on here with the screen screen what's basically going on guys is

00:05:41.440 the um there was a witness for the state right and i'm sorry for those of you that already heard

00:05:46.480 this but as people keep piling in i'm gonna you know keep repeating it just so people kind of know

00:05:50.560 what the hell's going on here as you guys know the state produced a witness who is a bear county 0.95

00:05:55.180 sheriff's office undercover detective that participates in narcotics gang and firearms investigations the

00:06:02.760 first day he testified he basically um had a mask on right for fear of his family i think now the mask

00:06:09.340 is off but they're not showing his face he's been testifying uh as a subject matter expert or as

00:06:15.220 sme and gang culture and in this particular instance the g shine bloods okay now you guys are probably 0.85

00:06:21.960 wondering why the hell is this relevant myron the reason why this is relevant guys is because um and

00:06:28.140 i'll pull this up on the screen here they still got this weird green screen here i'll keep letting it

00:06:31.820 play right while i have it muted so i can explain you guys what's going on here the reason why this is

00:06:36.580 relevant guys is because the state of florida is trying to seek the death penalty against melly

00:06:42.700 and one of the main circumstances that needs to be proven for them to get the death penalty

00:06:48.900 successfully is they need to establish that he is in fact a gang member which is why the state's been

00:06:55.040 wait i don't want to say wasting so much time this is why the state's been expending quite a bit of time

00:06:59.960 and resources to prove uh to prove this okay because they know that if they're not able to

00:07:07.260 prove him as a gang member they will not be able to pursue the death penalty according to florida law

00:07:12.540 so they have this um sheriff's deputy who's well versed in the g shine set in particular of the bloods

00:07:20.660 to testify and they're breaking down text messages um and conversation between melly and other known gang

00:07:27.600 members and their affiliates they're citing uh vernacular using text messages slang hierarchies um

00:07:34.580 drug trafficking firearms etc they're going over all of this so the prosecution had their um witness on

00:07:43.720 direct and when you're on direct it means you are being questioned by the side that brought you on so

00:07:51.340 in this case the prosecution brought him on they're asking him questions that's direct what you guys are

00:07:56.920 about to hear now is cross-examination which is when the opposing side now just as the name

00:08:05.080 infers examines you from a cross standpoint they're basically asking you questions and grilling you and

00:08:10.660 trying to essentially break down your credibility catch you in lies make you look foolish so that they

00:08:17.900 tarnish your credibility on the stand that's what cross-examination is for your job is to tarnish

00:08:23.640 the credibility of the opposing side's witness that they bring on and that's what you guys are about

00:08:28.360 to hear here with the defense attorney uh questioning this detective okay and my estimate is he's going to

00:08:37.140 do things to show that melly isn't actually a part of the gang i know there was some discussion yesterday

00:08:43.480 where melly had basically um one of the top guys of this set g shine bloods or the bloods in general

00:08:50.220 had wanted to get a hold of melly maybe for some type of recruitment purposes etc uh but he did not

00:08:55.860 respond but the the sheriff's deputy has been responding pretty much saying well look melly

00:09:01.900 hasn't really got pressed like other fake bloods in the south florida area and he actually mentioned

00:09:06.700 the island boys here uh for false flagging right and he said that melly isn't getting pressed for

00:09:11.600 false flagging which means that he is in fact a member of the gang and in good standing so let's go

00:09:18.220 back to the uh footage here i think that gives you guys a pretty nice and succinct summary of what's

00:09:23.680 transpired so far as law as as as pertains to this witness right but now you guys understand the

00:09:29.680 importance of why they're trying to establish melly's gang ties it's critical to them being able to get

00:09:35.040 the death penalty all right cool let's get back to it we're going to unmute this it looks like they're

00:09:39.500 breaking down text messages

00:09:40.580 that's it green and him see that yes sir and that's on 10 6 yeah so that would be a pretty

00:09:54.360 important meeting because the godfather wants to sit down right yeah okay and that's on 10 6 at 12 0 5

00:10:03.960 10 6 at 12 0 5 he reiterated he reiterates me you him and jay green yes no response

00:10:16.840 yeah so the next day 10 7 4 40 last when you free

00:10:27.500 no response that whole day goes by next day 10 8 12 43 40

00:10:38.680 to stay in tune is to communicate bro if you feel like it's too much too much i think what it's

00:10:47.080 meant to say for you can line up your picture sorry let me go from the top if you guys have

00:10:56.320 questions go ahead and super chat them in i'll be answering questions when there's breaks and stuff

00:11:00.080 like that so get your super chats in if you guys got questions shout out to lj m bd5 don't worry i'll

00:11:05.160 answer this question just to go on but i want to make sure we get as many people in here before i do

00:11:08.820 that so people can get value from it i guess and that was on 10 eight four days later 10 17

00:11:20.540 speak your mind like a man don't have a fool guessing so gino is not getting frustrated with 0.53

00:11:29.220 this lack of response you're going to bring it back i agree it also like that first message you

00:11:36.220 read it kind of seems like we're missing some context of conversations that might not be in these

00:11:40.880 threads i'm just because some of this stuff doesn't make sense the way it's almost like a continuation

00:11:46.620 of a conversation that already happened it might seem that way but you are the way to tell

00:11:51.340 right so the word you're looking for is you're speculating sure okay all right so

00:11:57.240 finally you get the response after all of that

00:12:05.620 just so you guys know this gino guy is a blood gang member slash affiliate who's kind of a cloud 1.00

00:12:13.740 chaser he asked meli a few times to like post them so you know he can get some clouds he's also a

00:12:18.100 wannabe rapper so the defense attorney is trying to use this to illustrate that meli isn't responding 0.98

00:12:22.900 to this guy uh you know to kind of again his job the defense attorney's job here is to distance meli

00:12:28.340 from the gang as much as he can because he understands meli's life literally hangs in the

00:12:32.340 balance on this uh situation i think they're we're missing some conversations that were had

00:12:38.560 not via text message because and you can speculate all day long yeah i think it's common sense okay

00:12:46.780 but okay you're right

00:12:49.240 do you have any proof of any of the things that you were speculating to have occurred sir

00:12:58.200 we have the phone extraction if i go through call logs there might be something there

00:13:03.440 and it might be a martian

00:13:06.760 okay all right so

00:13:10.080 in response to that 10 23 2018

00:13:15.080 at 10 38

00:13:18.580 gina responds on the same day hit me when you're free got to get another one 0.91

00:13:26.920 right right and then he sends the oath

00:13:32.680 correct on 10 24 that's not open until that 18

00:13:38.920 uh yeah i can't see you oh i'm sorry

00:13:42.820 it's okay

00:13:43.440 so no urgency with that even

00:13:51.000 correct

00:13:53.140 and it says

00:14:00.700 that same day

00:14:04.080 he texts him again there's no response to the oath right

00:14:08.680 no not to these messages no

00:14:12.100 and he texts him that's the oath me and you need to come up with a hand

00:14:16.800 yes so he's a gang member and he's in he doesn't have a handle yet and he's just now seen the oath

00:14:26.040 right

00:14:27.800 not according to the email chain

00:14:29.560 okay

00:14:30.560 received

00:14:32.360 earlier in the month report

00:14:34.040 okay

00:14:35.840 this would just be a second time presenting him the oath

00:14:39.160 and now we're on to page 32

00:14:43.040 if we pan out

00:14:45.260 you'll agree with me

00:14:47.500 there's no response to anything going on on page 32

00:14:51.700 correct

00:14:52.500 okay

00:14:58.260 first message

00:15:01.260 10 24 12 38

00:15:03.500 handle is a name for the books

00:15:07.020 yes so he's not in the books yet

00:15:10.620 we don't know that okay

00:15:13.260 we know he doesn't have a handle

00:15:15.700 for the books

00:15:16.820 we know that

00:15:18.100 we don't know that according to these text messages

00:15:20.820 he just said we need to come up with one

00:15:22.820 right at this point in time

00:15:26.500 what are you saying

00:15:27.440 saying at 10 24

00:15:29.060 when he's asking for the handle

00:15:30.940 they haven't come up with one yet

00:15:32.760 we don't know if he has one

00:15:34.240 okay

00:15:38.560 and then at 10 24

00:15:44.200 at 9 36

00:15:46.520 so 8 hours goes by

00:15:48.780 bus at me when you're free

00:15:51.020 I need to skyline with

00:15:52.440 all right

00:15:54.380 keep in mind guys

00:15:55.820 look at the date here

00:15:56.620 11 18 2018

00:15:57.820 this is after the murder

00:15:58.960 correct

00:15:59.820 call me

00:16:00.560 I need to talk to you about something

00:16:01.760 yes

00:16:02.260 the murder occurred

00:16:03.720 10 26 2018

00:16:05.120 for those that are wondering

00:16:06.080 because 8 hours has gone by

00:16:09.040 all right

00:16:09.680 yes

00:16:10.580 10 25 908

00:16:16.640 next day

00:16:19.420 oh wait hold on

00:16:21.300 okay sorry

00:16:22.080 it looks like it was red

00:16:23.900 on the 18th

00:16:24.900 but it was sent

00:16:26.380 on the 24th

00:16:27.360 interesting

00:16:27.720 okay

00:16:28.480 and just so you guys know

00:16:31.000 this is coming off

00:16:32.280 of cell bright

00:16:32.840 when you get information

00:16:33.880 pulled from a cell bright

00:16:34.760 sometimes it's a little bit hard to interpret

00:16:36.480 and cell bright is basically a device

00:16:38.660 that extracts data from a phone

00:16:41.260 and you got to be able to kind of read through it

00:16:43.880 and decipher it's a law enforcement tool

00:16:45.380 so

00:16:46.120 so yeah okay

00:16:47.720 so it was a little confusing

00:16:49.060 but yeah

00:16:49.460 it shows the status with red

00:16:51.800 and the date here

00:16:53.660 so this is two days before the murder

00:16:55.800 excuse me

00:16:56.660 10 26

00:17:02.360 is the day

00:17:03.760 you have to say that

00:17:04.520 you have to say that

00:17:07.420 Mellie's friends

00:17:08.420 Anthony Williams

00:17:09.500 and Christopher Thomas

00:17:12.280 were killed

00:17:13.260 right

00:17:15.060 okay

00:17:15.620 you see a message

00:17:16.640 we hear for you bro

00:17:17.700 just let us know

00:17:19.700 what you need

00:17:20.500 see that

00:17:21.120 yes

00:17:21.600 sounds like some form

00:17:23.660 of comforting and condolence to you

00:17:25.180 you would have speculated

00:17:27.940 okay

00:17:28.880 don't

00:17:29.800 next

00:17:32.160 I went through what you're going through

00:17:36.740 it hurts

00:17:37.400 but it's like when you go into the next level

00:17:39.740 the people you love die

00:17:41.560 so they can protect you

00:17:43.500 better from the sky

00:17:44.900 see that

00:17:46.040 I see that

00:17:46.800 okay

00:17:47.200 now prior to those communications

00:17:54.080 was there any communication at all

00:17:55.800 where you saw

00:17:56.620 where

00:17:57.640 Mellie was complaining

00:18:00.240 to Geno

00:18:01.060 or anybody else

00:18:02.240 in

00:18:03.640 or Geno

00:18:05.240 or

00:18:05.740 Stretch

00:18:07.240 his name

00:18:07.880 Stretch

00:18:08.740 Stretch

00:18:09.240 Stretch

00:18:09.740 Stretch

00:18:10.240 where

00:18:11.140 Gina

00:18:11.580 where he's complaining

00:18:12.580 to Geno

00:18:12.940 or Stretch

00:18:13.340 about

00:18:13.720 Anthony Williams

00:18:14.620 no sir

00:18:15.820 you see anywhere

00:18:17.180 where he's complaining

00:18:18.080 about Christopher Thomas

00:18:19.140 to those two members

00:18:20.780 yes

00:18:21.300 no

00:18:21.680 do you see anywhere

00:18:22.860 where he

00:18:23.820 they're putting them

00:18:24.900 on a plate

00:18:25.320 for him

00:18:25.760 or anybody

00:18:26.880 not on those messages

00:18:28.800 okay

00:18:29.580 on page 35

00:18:53.380 he said

00:18:56.740 one of the

00:18:58.840 words

00:19:00.660 that was used

00:19:01.900 let's look at

00:19:07.320 page 35

00:19:11.060 guys do me a quick favor

00:19:12.860 like the video

00:19:13.420 we got 600 plus

00:19:14.320 y'all in here

00:19:14.780 man

00:19:14.980 I still haven't slept yet

00:19:16.000 so do your boy a favor

00:19:17.020 and like the video

00:19:17.600 because we grinding out here

00:19:18.600 and giving you guys

00:19:20.760 this value

00:19:21.300 reacting to this trial live

00:19:23.160 giving you guys

00:19:23.700 the playback

00:19:24.080 and once we hit

00:19:25.560 a thousand live viewers

00:19:26.420 I'll give you guys

00:19:27.180 an update

00:19:27.500 of what the hell

00:19:27.940 is going on here

00:19:28.560 that way

00:19:29.020 I don't repeat myself

00:19:29.920 too many times

00:19:30.600 but I want to keep

00:19:31.160 you guys

00:19:31.580 that are just joining

00:19:32.540 in appraised

00:19:33.240 of what the hell

00:19:33.700 is going on here

00:19:34.320 but basically

00:19:35.940 looking through

00:19:36.900 text messages

00:19:37.320 between Melly

00:19:37.900 and a gang member

00:19:38.860 named Gino

00:19:39.540 we're going to talk

00:19:40.280 about this in more

00:19:41.000 detail once we hit

00:19:41.660 1k live viewers

00:19:42.520 the relevance of this

00:19:43.720 it's all gang members

00:19:45.960 it's in reference to

00:19:49.240 that's my big homie

00:19:51.200 that's my little homie

00:19:52.960 that's the big homie 1.00

00:19:55.780 you know

00:19:56.820 but like I said

00:19:58.440 if you just say

00:20:01.340 he's my homie

00:20:02.900 and you're just talking

00:20:04.280 to your friends

00:20:04.860 it doesn't mean anything

00:20:06.080 so you have homies 0.60

00:20:07.860 sure

00:20:08.980 okay

00:20:09.380 I have homies

00:20:10.120 I hope so

00:20:11.820 all right

00:20:12.480 let's go now

00:20:22.740 to page 47

00:20:24.500 now remember

00:20:29.580 these guys

00:20:30.140 are trying to recruit

00:20:31.140 right

00:20:31.700 they're trying to recruit

00:20:35.360 or you say

00:20:36.120 he has already

00:20:36.680 been recruited

00:20:37.380 it appears

00:20:39.340 he was recruited

00:20:39.940 because they sent

00:20:40.700 them the documents

00:20:42.420 for the next step up

00:20:43.460 okay

00:20:43.900 so

00:20:45.440 I think you

00:20:49.140 used the term

00:20:49.860 cloud chase

00:20:50.520 and I didn't

00:20:51.000 use that term

00:20:51.600 you used that term

00:20:52.400 right

00:20:52.680 correct

00:20:53.320 tell me if this

00:20:55.920 would be the type

00:20:56.720 of thing

00:20:57.800 you would refer

00:20:58.420 to as

00:20:59.160 cloud chase

00:20:59.940 on page 47

00:21:04.340 post me for

00:21:07.640 for my belated

00:21:08.680 birthday

00:21:09.440 I'm only

00:21:10.900 I'm only asking

00:21:12.060 because

00:21:12.660 I got

00:21:13.700 hella hoes 1.00

00:21:14.580 last time

00:21:15.860 you posted me

00:21:16.760 yeah

00:21:17.520 just a bunch of

00:21:18.200 already

00:21:18.560 oh my god

00:21:20.940 this guy

00:21:24.300 I know you did

00:21:26.200 yeah

00:21:26.480 okay

00:21:27.260 but I'm asking you

00:21:29.180 is that the type of stuff

00:21:30.200 yes

00:21:30.980 that you are referring to

00:21:32.660 yes sir

00:21:33.320 yes

00:21:34.540 okay

00:21:35.040 let's go to page 48

00:21:42.040 let's start

00:21:56.240 top of page

00:21:56.960 and this comes in

00:22:08.500 on January 6

00:22:10.480 2019

00:22:11.500 three months

00:22:13.880 to the day

00:22:16.020 after

00:22:17.160 the incident

00:22:19.840 issue

00:22:20.460 in this case

00:22:21.120 yes

00:22:22.100 okay

00:22:22.600 on another note

00:22:24.980 one of them

00:22:25.600 Kairu

00:22:26.320 ends

00:22:28.460 reached out

00:22:29.440 to me

00:22:29.960 saying something

00:22:31.460 about some

00:22:32.480 force

00:22:33.940 do that

00:22:35.960 yes sir

00:22:36.900 response

00:22:37.560 I was so

00:22:39.320 disrespectful

00:22:40.080 they probably

00:22:40.820 won't be calling

00:22:41.560 me back

00:22:42.080 see that

00:22:44.380 yes

00:22:45.600 response

00:22:48.280 got you

00:22:48.820 beloved

00:22:49.200 well what

00:22:52.300 they

00:22:52.600 holland

00:22:53.080 about

00:22:53.360 that was

00:22:58.120 quite a lot

00:22:58.720 accusing you

00:22:59.360 of something

00:22:59.880 that

00:23:00.600 are punishable

00:23:01.820 by death

00:23:02.500 also stating

00:23:04.080 that shine

00:23:04.760 family

00:23:05.160 is nothing

00:23:05.620 more than

00:23:06.360 a chess

00:23:07.120 game

00:23:07.500 in the palm

00:23:08.060 of little

00:23:09.160 Ford's

00:23:09.820 hands

00:23:10.320 then

00:23:14.120 he has

00:23:14.580 another

00:23:14.880 message

00:23:15.480 I myself

00:23:18.260 found

00:23:18.800 that amusing

00:23:20.120 the reach

00:23:21.800 of the G 0.92

00:23:22.360 shine

00:23:22.760 hand

00:23:23.340 is far

00:23:24.420 reaching

00:23:24.940 but being

00:23:25.880 that you

00:23:26.640 are really

00:23:27.460 shine

00:23:28.100 that's

00:23:29.440 something

00:23:29.960 you are not

00:23:31.220 going to have

00:23:31.840 to witness

00:23:32.420 for mothers

00:23:33.640 and kids

00:23:34.680 are not

00:23:35.840 off limits

00:23:36.560 when disrespecting

00:23:38.100 shine

00:23:38.400 right

00:23:39.600 yes

00:23:40.320 okay

00:23:40.900 shine guys

00:23:42.300 is

00:23:42.700 they're referring

00:23:43.340 to the G

00:23:43.820 shine bloods

00:23:44.460 which is

00:23:44.840 the gang

00:23:45.680 that Millie

00:23:46.140 is supposedly

00:23:47.320 or allegedly

00:23:48.080 a member

00:23:49.200 of

00:23:49.500 Gino

00:23:51.860 and her

00:23:52.380 was

00:23:52.780 disrespected

00:23:53.360 we established

00:23:55.620 that yesterday

00:23:56.240 yes

00:23:56.760 okay

00:23:57.260 and

00:23:58.680 perk

00:24:00.360 is a phrase

00:24:00.960 used

00:24:01.440 to refer

00:24:01.960 to other

00:24:02.360 members

00:24:02.760 of the gang

00:24:03.760 very similar

00:24:04.740 to like how

00:24:05.440 YSL

00:24:06.180 refers to each

00:24:06.780 other

00:24:06.980 slime

00:24:07.480 similar

00:24:08.480 wouldn't be

00:24:08.940 off limit

00:24:09.340 either

00:24:09.640 okay

00:24:10.480 okay

00:24:10.880 and it

00:24:12.100 wouldn't make

00:24:12.480 sense

00:24:12.800 to kill

00:24:13.180 a golden

00:24:13.600 goose

00:24:14.020 no

00:24:15.760 okay

00:24:16.420 okay

00:24:17.700 now we saw

00:24:32.920 yesterday

00:24:33.420 where he

00:24:34.000 Gino

00:24:37.080 had

00:24:37.420 suggested

00:24:38.800 that it

00:24:39.140 would be

00:24:39.400 a good

00:24:39.700 look

00:24:40.100 for him

00:24:41.480 to

00:24:41.860 get some

00:24:43.180 change

00:24:43.580 for everybody

00:24:44.200 remember

00:24:44.500 that

00:24:44.840 yes

00:24:45.580 okay

00:24:46.540 we're now

00:24:54.740 looking at

00:24:55.120 page 51

00:24:55.920 see that

00:25:09.280 second to last

00:25:10.060 message there

00:25:10.620 yes

00:25:12.960 what happened

00:25:13.680 to the change

00:25:14.260 never got

00:25:16.300 I guess

00:25:16.640 no response

00:25:17.800 then he's like

00:25:20.580 never mind

00:25:21.500 right

00:25:23.420 right

00:25:24.420 so he didn't

00:25:25.040 get the change

00:25:25.620 that he was

00:25:27.080 looking for

00:25:27.940 go to 52

00:25:31.640 and it

00:25:43.140 seems like

00:25:43.980 Mellie is

00:25:46.020 trying to

00:25:46.440 assure him

00:25:47.080 that it

00:25:48.220 will come

00:25:48.800 but it

00:25:49.720 hasn't

00:25:50.140 he says

00:25:50.800 all that's

00:25:51.900 coming

00:25:52.260 big bro

00:25:53.580 be patient

00:25:54.480 I'm fresh

00:25:55.140 out

00:25:55.480 I'm gonna have

00:25:56.280 everything handled

00:25:57.080 around March

00:25:57.900 I ain't seen

00:25:59.300 my mama

00:25:59.840 yet

00:26:00.200 only one

00:26:02.520 right

00:26:04.040 right

00:26:04.660 answer

00:26:06.420 I believe

00:26:16.380 you bro

00:26:16.880 what about

00:26:18.120 my post

00:26:18.840 I remember

00:26:20.940 he asked

00:26:21.400 for a post

00:26:21.880 for his birthday

00:26:22.480 I remember

00:26:23.200 okay

00:26:23.840 I believe

00:26:25.080 you bro

00:26:25.480 so he's not

00:26:26.020 getting the

00:26:26.280 change

00:26:26.680 the post

00:26:28.380 is free

00:26:28.780 I believe

00:26:30.480 you bro

00:26:30.780 what about

00:26:31.080 my post

00:26:31.640 thing

00:26:31.880 bet me

00:26:34.020 okay

00:26:35.580 what about

00:26:36.080 my post

00:26:36.660 seems like

00:26:37.040 a period

00:26:37.460 is supposed

00:26:37.880 to be there

00:26:38.360 an n-word

00:26:40.280 bet me

00:26:40.740 a hundred

00:26:41.160 should I

00:26:41.660 just go

00:26:42.020 ahead

00:26:42.340 and pay

00:26:42.760 him

00:26:42.960 in other

00:26:44.020 words

00:26:44.380 somebody

00:26:45.080 bet him

00:26:45.560 a hundred

00:26:45.840 dollars

00:26:46.200 that he

00:26:46.480 wasn't

00:26:46.660 gonna get

00:26:46.960 a post

00:26:47.320 should I

00:26:47.580 just pay

00:26:47.900 the guy

00:26:48.160 man

00:26:48.420 what about

00:26:48.940 my post

00:26:49.380 right

00:26:50.180 yes

00:26:50.840 that's how

00:26:51.240 you interpret

00:26:51.600 it too

00:26:52.420 this dude

00:26:57.340 to hell

00:26:57.720 man

00:26:58.240 okay

00:26:58.700 I mean

00:27:01.000 while the

00:27:03.980 state had

00:27:05.900 you up

00:27:06.220 here

00:27:06.380 when you

00:27:06.800 were

00:27:06.920 interpreting

00:27:07.320 messages

00:27:07.820 you seem

00:27:08.500 to have

00:27:08.960 a level

00:27:09.340 of certainty

00:27:09.980 in all

00:27:10.360 your

00:27:10.500 assessments

00:27:10.980 now

00:27:12.020 you're

00:27:12.280 a little

00:27:12.560 bit

00:27:12.840 equivocated

00:27:13.720 don't worry

00:27:16.680 guys

00:27:16.940 the lawyer

00:27:17.280 is black

00:27:17.720 for all

00:27:18.020 you guys

00:27:18.380 out here

00:27:18.780 that are

00:27:19.140 fucking

00:27:19.520 you know

00:27:20.180 one of

00:27:20.560 these

00:27:20.820 soft

00:27:22.140 leftists

00:27:23.420 don't worry

00:27:23.980 the lawyer

00:27:24.300 is back

00:27:24.620 it's

00:27:24.800 black

00:27:25.100 it's

00:27:25.300 okay

00:27:25.620 Mellie got

00:27:33.580 three lawyers

00:27:34.240 a female 0.98

00:27:35.160 she's black 0.93

00:27:36.660 I think she

00:27:36.980 defended

00:27:37.340 one of these

00:27:38.200 other artists

00:27:38.800 a black male

00:27:40.540 and a white

00:27:40.860 dude

00:27:41.100 guys do me

00:27:51.700 a favor

00:27:52.040 I'm trying

00:27:52.340 to grow

00:27:52.540 the channel

00:27:52.980 if you

00:27:54.160 got anyone

00:27:54.680 that you

00:27:55.060 know

00:27:55.360 that's

00:27:55.900 covering

00:27:56.200 this case

00:27:56.880 or trial

00:27:57.560 or interested

00:27:58.020 in it

00:27:58.380 send them

00:27:59.000 the link

00:27:59.260 to the

00:27:59.520 stream

00:27:59.720 guys

00:27:59.980 let's

00:28:00.220 build

00:28:00.420 this

00:28:00.660 let's

00:28:01.040 build

00:28:01.180 this

00:28:01.340 little

00:28:01.480 thing

00:28:01.680 up

00:28:01.820 man

00:28:01.980 because

00:28:02.180 I've

00:28:02.600 been

00:28:02.680 looking

00:28:02.840 at

00:28:02.980 some

00:28:03.120 of

00:28:03.180 these

00:28:03.280 other

00:28:03.460 true

00:28:03.640 crime

00:28:03.860 channels

00:28:04.220 and I'm

00:28:05.020 gonna keep

00:28:05.200 it a thousand

00:28:05.540 with y'all

00:28:05.880 bro

00:28:06.080 we're the

00:28:06.680 fucking

00:28:06.960 best

00:28:07.260 over here

00:28:07.680 it doesn't

00:28:08.120 even come

00:28:08.480 close

00:28:08.820 like when I

00:28:10.020 look at

00:28:10.260 some of

00:28:10.420 these other

00:28:10.700 people

00:28:10.940 how like

00:28:11.280 they kind

00:28:11.600 of just

00:28:11.840 cover

00:28:12.340 crime

00:28:12.860 or whatever

00:28:13.260 I'm able

00:28:13.660 to give

00:28:13.920 you guys

00:28:14.280 a deep

00:28:14.800 insight

00:28:15.340 into how

00:28:16.340 cases are

00:28:16.960 really

00:28:17.420 initiated

00:28:17.940 and get

00:28:18.260 into the

00:28:18.660 weeds

00:28:19.060 like weeds

00:28:20.000 weeds

00:28:20.300 you know

00:28:20.800 depending on

00:28:21.220 how deep

00:28:21.520 you guys

00:28:21.780 want to

00:28:22.060 go

00:28:22.240 so the only

00:28:23.000 thing I ask

00:28:23.440 guys

00:28:23.680 subscribe to

00:28:24.420 the channel

00:28:24.780 like the

00:28:25.520 video

00:28:25.800 I don't do

00:28:26.640 this for

00:28:26.920 the money

00:28:27.220 I'm literally

00:28:27.760 half asleep

00:28:28.480 right now

00:28:28.940 haven't even

00:28:29.380 slept since

00:28:29.860 fresh and fit

00:28:30.580 after hours

00:28:31.820 I genuinely

00:28:32.900 do this

00:28:33.600 channel

00:28:34.500 because I

00:28:35.240 enjoy it

00:28:35.640 and I enjoy

00:28:36.280 giving y'all

00:28:36.660 this value

00:28:37.120 I enjoy

00:28:37.440 giving you guys

00:28:37.920 insight

00:28:38.240 I don't know

00:28:38.780 anyone else

00:28:39.340 that's a

00:28:39.620 former fed

00:28:40.020 on YouTube

00:28:40.480 giving you

00:28:41.640 guys the

00:28:42.000 type of

00:28:42.380 insight

00:28:42.720 from the

00:28:43.120 law enforcement

00:28:43.720 perspective

00:28:44.240 of the

00:28:46.100 criminal justice

00:28:46.540 system

00:28:46.980 and true

00:28:47.280 crime

00:28:47.620 never seen

00:28:49.380 anyone else

00:28:50.020 on YouTube

00:28:50.360 so you know

00:28:51.580 we got these

00:28:52.060 weirdos like

00:28:52.700 you know

00:28:53.100 putting makeup

00:28:54.560 on as they

00:28:55.120 talk about

00:28:55.440 Jeffrey Dahmer

00:28:55.940 that shit's

00:28:56.340 why we need

00:28:57.280 people real

00:28:58.020 world experience

00:28:58.600 giving y'all

00:28:59.000 the sauce

00:28:59.400 of how this

00:28:59.920 shit really

00:29:00.240 works

00:29:00.600 all right

00:29:01.320 so no

00:29:02.200 questions

00:29:02.480 done by the

00:29:02.820 way if you

00:29:03.060 guys got

00:29:03.320 questions

00:29:03.680 shoot them

00:29:03.980 in the

00:29:04.120 super chats

00:29:04.540 when the

00:29:05.060 trial's like

00:29:05.440 on break

00:29:05.800 or there's

00:29:06.060 a dead

00:29:06.300 silence

00:29:06.600 or something

00:29:06.820 like that

00:29:07.140 I'll answer

00:29:07.780 the questions

00:29:08.240 but let's

00:29:08.940 get back

00:29:09.220 to it

00:29:09.560 please like

00:29:10.380 the video

00:29:10.620 guys

00:29:10.780 that's all

00:29:11.060 I'll ask

00:29:11.320 share the

00:29:11.680 stream

00:29:11.880 with a

00:29:12.080 friend

00:29:12.340 line up

00:29:19.020 on the

00:29:19.280 meeting

00:29:19.500 because we

00:29:20.160 got all

00:29:20.460 this money

00:29:20.880 and we

00:29:21.140 well resourced

00:29:22.020 and we

00:29:22.700 got all

00:29:23.080 of that

00:29:23.360 right

00:29:23.640 right

00:29:24.200 I need

00:29:24.840 to borrow

00:29:25.080 10 bands

00:29:25.720 I give you

00:29:26.060 back 15

00:29:26.640 right

00:29:27.360 okay

00:29:27.800 did you get

00:29:28.740 a response

00:29:29.340 no

00:29:31.180 okay

00:29:32.020 and he

00:29:36.180 says

00:29:36.540 and you

00:29:37.060 went over

00:29:37.400 this

00:29:37.660 on direct

00:29:38.240 if I

00:29:39.720 don't

00:29:39.880 pay

00:29:40.100 me

00:29:40.280 back

00:29:40.680 you

00:29:41.600 can

00:29:41.740 have

00:29:42.000 my

00:29:42.220 stain

00:29:42.560 and

00:29:42.820 my

00:29:43.000 life

00:29:43.360 right

00:29:44.680 let me

00:29:46.020 now also

00:29:47.160 just give you

00:29:47.760 guys a little

00:29:48.120 bit of insight

00:29:48.560 if you look

00:29:49.020 these text

00:29:49.900 messages are

00:29:50.400 being sent

00:29:50.820 in 2019

00:29:51.520 at this

00:29:52.620 point

00:29:52.940 the murder

00:29:54.400 investigation is

00:29:55.160 fully underway

00:29:55.780 the murder

00:29:56.200 took place

00:29:56.640 on 10

00:29:57.000 26

00:29:57.460 2018

00:29:57.900 so

00:29:59.040 I mean

00:30:00.140 there's a

00:30:01.480 probably a

00:30:02.000 plausible reason

00:30:02.640 why Melly

00:30:03.040 isn't being so

00:30:03.660 responsive

00:30:04.080 this guy

00:30:04.520 this dude's

00:30:05.200 a known

00:30:05.580 gang member

00:30:06.260 so Melly

00:30:07.120 knows

00:30:07.740 that the

00:30:08.300 police

00:30:08.580 are on

00:30:08.940 him

00:30:09.040 so he's

00:30:09.260 probably

00:30:09.480 not going

00:30:09.800 to respond

00:30:10.340 to these

00:30:11.240 guys

00:30:11.500 the same

00:30:11.820 level

00:30:12.060 but the

00:30:12.340 defense

00:30:12.640 attorney

00:30:12.860 right

00:30:13.080 is using

00:30:13.480 this as

00:30:13.840 advantage

00:30:14.220 showing

00:30:14.460 look

00:30:14.760 Melly's

00:30:15.400 not even

00:30:15.640 responding

00:30:16.020 to this

00:30:16.240 guy

00:30:16.500 is he

00:30:17.120 really

00:30:17.280 a gang

00:30:17.620 member

00:30:17.960 blah blah 0.97

00:30:18.320 blah

00:30:18.520 blah

00:30:19.100 but the

00:30:19.500 reality

00:30:19.860 is

00:30:20.180 he knows

00:30:21.300 he's

00:30:22.120 under

00:30:22.320 a lot

00:30:22.560 of

00:30:22.640 heat

00:30:22.820 and

00:30:23.020 about

00:30:23.220 two

00:30:23.460 weeks

00:30:23.700 after

00:30:24.040 this

00:30:24.420 Melly

00:30:25.820 gets

00:30:26.100 arrested

00:30:26.580 I think

00:30:27.840 his arrest

00:30:28.460 date was

00:30:28.700 sometime

00:30:28.940 in February

00:30:29.440 2019

00:30:30.140 so

00:30:31.040 there's

00:30:32.200 a potential

00:30:33.760 plausible

00:30:34.400 explanation

00:30:34.860 for why

00:30:35.300 he's not

00:30:35.500 responding

00:30:35.840 to this

00:30:36.020 guy

00:30:36.240 like

00:30:37.120 he used

00:30:37.360 to

00:30:37.540 why

00:30:54.180 shuffling

00:30:54.620 papers

00:30:55.000 and pulling 0.95

00:30:55.360 out more

00:30:55.700 text messages

00:30:56.460 yeah guys

00:30:57.520 like the

00:30:57.780 video

00:30:57.960 once we

00:30:58.300 hit

00:30:58.400 1000

00:30:58.760 likes

00:30:59.120 I am

00:30:59.880 going

00:31:00.120 to

00:31:00.440 give

00:31:00.740 a

00:31:00.960 full

00:31:01.220 explanation

00:31:01.680 of

00:31:01.880 what

00:31:02.040 the

00:31:02.140 hell

00:31:02.220 is

00:31:02.300 going

00:31:02.480 on

00:31:02.660 here

00:31:02.760 I

00:31:02.820 just

00:31:02.960 don't

00:31:03.060 want

00:31:03.140 to

00:31:03.220 keep

00:31:03.360 repeating

00:31:03.600 myself

00:31:03.980 and

00:31:04.140 boring

00:31:04.360 the

00:31:04.520 people

00:31:04.780 and

00:31:04.920 piss

00:31:05.040 the

00:31:05.140 people

00:31:05.340 off

00:31:05.500 that

00:31:05.580 have

00:31:05.660 been

00:31:05.840 here

00:31:06.240 from

00:31:06.380 the

00:31:06.480 beginning

00:31:06.760 so

00:31:07.480 yeah

00:31:07.820 just

00:31:08.060 like

00:31:08.180 the

00:31:08.280 video

00:31:08.500 I

00:31:08.900 haven't

00:31:09.000 slept

00:31:09.200 yet

00:31:09.440 I'd

00:31:10.200 really

00:31:10.340 appreciate

00:31:10.700 it

00:31:10.900 let's

00:31:11.120 get

00:31:11.220 back

00:31:11.340 to

00:31:11.440 it

00:31:11.820 top

00:31:23.720 on

00:31:24.880 9-13

00:31:25.760 2018

00:31:26.700 now we're

00:31:27.260 back to

00:31:27.600 her

00:31:27.860 right

00:31:29.360 right

00:31:30.460 before

00:31:31.080 the

00:31:31.280 incident

00:31:31.660 yes

00:31:33.740 yo bro

00:31:34.720 do you

00:31:36.340 fuck

00:31:36.680 with

00:31:36.940 when

00:31:37.000 when

00:31:37.240 when

00:31:37.260 when

00:31:37.320 when

00:31:37.680 and

00:31:43.900 remember

00:31:44.160 guys

00:31:44.540 herk

00:31:44.860 is a

00:31:45.160 slang

00:31:45.460 term

00:31:45.900 for

00:31:46.260 members

00:31:46.680 of

00:31:46.840 g

00:31:47.000 shine

00:31:47.280 many

00:31:48.180 responds

00:31:48.900 now me

00:31:50.320 and

00:31:50.520 bro

00:31:50.780 fought

00:31:51.320 well I

00:31:52.300 fought

00:31:52.620 young

00:31:52.940 young

00:31:53.500 boy

00:31:53.900 he

00:31:55.100 fought

00:31:55.440 my

00:31:55.640 brother

00:31:55.940 sack

00:31:56.500 oh

00:31:56.960 shit

00:31:57.260 melly

00:31:57.520 fought

00:31:57.800 nba

00:31:58.180 young

00:31:58.440 boy

00:31:58.680 so

00:31:59.300 now

00:31:59.700 melly's

00:32:00.360 talking

00:32:00.860 just a month

00:32:02.400 earlier

00:32:02.840 that

00:32:03.640 young

00:32:05.420 boy

00:32:05.680 is

00:32:05.860 another

00:32:06.220 rapper

00:32:06.720 yes

00:32:07.500 and

00:32:08.280 that

00:32:08.420 he

00:32:08.580 fought

00:32:08.880 young

00:32:09.200 boy

00:32:09.420 because

00:32:10.000 young

00:32:10.440 boy

00:32:10.660 was

00:32:10.880 fighting

00:32:11.200 his

00:32:11.500 brother

00:32:11.860 sack

00:32:12.860 he

00:32:22.100 says

00:32:22.240 he

00:32:22.360 fought

00:32:22.500 young

00:32:22.740 boy

00:32:22.960 and

00:32:23.080 that

00:32:23.200 young

00:32:23.460 boy

00:32:23.620 fought

00:32:23.860 his

00:32:24.020 brother

00:32:24.220 sack

00:32:24.520 he

00:32:24.720 doesn't

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00:32:26.480 fought

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00:32:36.960 not

00:32:37.180 there

00:32:37.740 you're

00:32:38.280 asking me

00:32:38.800 to

00:32:38.920 speculate

00:32:39.180 and

00:32:39.540 anytime

00:32:40.120 I

00:32:40.320 do

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00:32:46.500 that

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00:32:47.400 calling

00:32:47.680 sack

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00:32:49.040 brother

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00:32:50.100 why

00:32:54.260 is

00:32:54.500 the

00:32:54.620 defense

00:32:54.960 attorney

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00:32:55.640 on

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00:32:58.040 people

00:32:58.220 that

00:32:58.420 were

00:32:58.560 killed

00:32:58.880 so

00:32:59.120 he's

00:32:59.340 trying

00:32:59.540 to

00:32:59.660 establish

00:33:00.020 this

00:33:00.220 like

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00:33:00.620 this

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00:33:21.480 can

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00:33:22.500 when

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00:33:22.920 push 0.64

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00:33:23.480 no

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00:33:31.280 bark

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00:33:31.840 when

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00:33:32.360 her

00:33:32.640 see

00:33:33.220 that

00:33:33.500 okay

00:33:35.240 61

00:33:43.600 yeah

00:33:46.100 yeah

00:33:46.800 yes

00:33:47.620 yes

00:33:47.720 and

00:33:47.780 yeah

00:33:48.060 yeah

00:33:48.780 yeah

00:33:58.820 yeah

00:33:59.420 Thank you.

00:34:29.420 I'm being reminded, the mic's right behind me, stop mumbling.

00:34:46.420 I'm being reminded, too.

00:34:49.420 All right.

00:34:51.420 Where were we?

00:34:53.420 I think we're at page 61.

00:34:56.420 Page 61, first message.

00:35:06.420 Yo, I don't mean to keep hitting you up, bro, but what time do you want me mome up there?

00:35:17.420 I don't know the place or time it starts.

00:35:22.420 Right?

00:35:23.420 Right.

00:35:24.420 So this was, this is 915 at 1230.

00:35:37.420 And we had seen that 210 a.m. is when he starts asking, he asked him to bark at him at 2.7.

00:35:48.420 And now at 1230 p.m., he's saying, yo, I don't mean to keep hitting you up, bro, but what time do you want me to bomb up there?

00:36:00.420 I don't know the place or the time it starts.

00:36:03.420 Right?

00:36:04.420 Sure.

00:36:05.420 I'm getting ready.

00:36:06.420 I'm getting ready.

00:36:07.420 I'm getting ready now, Herb.

00:36:09.420 Most likely around 1 a.m.

00:36:10.420 Right?

00:36:11.420 Right.

00:36:12.420 Response.

00:36:13.420 Where is it located at again?

00:36:14.420 Where is it located at again?

00:36:15.420 No response.

00:36:17.420 Seven minutes later, venue.

00:36:18.420 No response.

00:36:27.420 In the orderly, no response.

00:36:30.420 Seven minutes later.

00:36:31.420 Venue.

00:36:32.420 No response.

00:36:38.420 Then about three hours later, at 3.33 p.m., yo, bro.

00:36:45.420 bro. Uh, you, bro, I get down there around eight or nine where you want to

00:36:53.460 link it. See that? Okay. So you found out some kind of way where it is. Exactly

00:37:03.600 what I was saying before. They're communicating outside. No, no. Well,

00:37:10.180 there you are speculating that they're communicating. If somebody is having a

00:37:13.540 show, would Melody be the only person on planet Earth that knows where the show 0.89

00:37:18.700 is? No. Okay. So when you say that they're communicating, that's where the

00:37:24.160 speculation is. When there's a photograph of them together, that means they linked

00:37:28.660 up. So they must have communicated. I know, but we're not talking about that.

00:37:32.800 We're talking about him finding out where the venue is. That's what we're

00:37:36.040 talking about. So yeah, he could have found the venue out any which way, but at

00:37:40.840 some point they had to have communicated for them to get together and take

00:37:44.800 photographs.

00:37:46.000 see what the defense attorney did there. He's subtly trying, uh, you know, hurt the

00:37:55.380 credibility of the detective. Like, look, they're not responding to each other, but

00:37:58.700 the detective kind of sharp. He's like, but they took a picture later that night. So

00:38:02.240 clearly they linked up, even though he didn't respond to him over text messages,

00:38:05.100 they could have used some other apps to communicate. So smart, smart of the detective

00:38:08.760 there, you know, her. If so, uh, brave yourself. What does it say? What does that

00:38:14.720 mean?

00:38:18.180 That's the lead. Fuck with. He's asking me to be fucked with Percocets, Percocets.

00:38:23.640 Okay. Percocets, Herc. If so, I, uh, brave you something. Bring something.

00:38:30.720 Answer. I don't do no drugs, Herc. What does he say right after that?

00:38:38.760 Bring something though, my Crips too. His who? Crips. Not his bloods.

00:38:47.100 He can't, he's not even supposed to use a C there, right? Right. Okay. And not

00:38:52.720 only does he use the C, he refers to his buddies as his Crips. Did that happen?

00:39:00.160 Yes or no? It did. Okay. Here we go.

00:39:03.300 Defense 30 earning his money today.

00:39:18.240 Here we go. That defense 30 is earning his money today. But of course, what is he trying

00:39:22.740 to do? He's trying to establish Melly isn't a part of the gang guys. Okay. And I see what

00:39:25.920 he's doing here. Again, plausible deniability for why he could say that, right? There's

00:39:30.500 a lot of bloods that are cool with Crips. It's not uncommon, but you know, the defense

00:39:33.880 attorney is trying to illustrate, look, Melly's cool with Crips. That means he's not a part 0.95

00:39:36.800 of the bloods. Which to an impressionable jury that isn't familiar with gang culture, they

00:39:43.640 might not know that. So the detective needs to be smart here and be able to illustrate

00:39:47.640 that bloods and Crips do hang out depending on the sets, not the overall overarching umbrella

00:39:53.980 gang.

00:39:54.320 But that was a clever tactic by this defense attorney like God damn video. You're going

00:40:07.620 to get a breakdown like this anywhere else. I'm fucking YouTube. God damn it.

00:40:10.360 We got about 900 y'all in here. Like the video, like I said before, we just need one more

00:40:23.560 hundred viewers. And what I'm going to do is give y'all a recap of what the hell is going

00:40:27.160 on here. Guys, I'm not up early. I just haven't slept. So, hey, man, the grind never stops for

00:40:40.880 you guys, bro. Love y'all because everybody is professing to be of higher rank than the

00:40:50.140 other. Herc is professing to be of higher rank than Gina, right? Or no.

00:40:57.160 He said he had Gino bend the rules. Okay. So actually, he's not, I'm going to strike

00:41:03.700 that. I was wrong about it. He actually petitioned Gino to bend the rules on behalf of Mel, right?

00:41:12.520 I'm going to be totally honest with you, bro. I have Gino kind of bend the rules for you

00:41:18.240 because I happen to be a huge fan of your music. But Gino is going to fall back for you

00:41:23.820 and I will deal with you until I feel like you're ready for Gino's crisis, right?

00:41:30.780 Yes.

00:41:31.500 So Herc is saying, look, I'm going to handle you and kind of bring you along because

00:41:35.360 you're not ready to stand before Gino, right?

00:41:39.840 Right.

00:41:40.560 Okay. Is Gino the same guy that he was ignoring time and time and time again?

00:41:44.440 That guy?

00:41:44.760 Yes.

00:41:47.080 Okay. And the godfather who was waiting for him for a meeting is over Gino and Herc, right?

00:41:55.740 Okay.

00:42:00.780 When he feels like you're ready, then you will be granted total access and acceptance. Until

00:42:06.380 then, the godfather will never acknowledge you. So he's not even acknowledged by the godfather.

00:42:11.600 Right. Okay. We still don't know. We still don't know you. But we see that you love the

00:42:22.480 hood. Okay. He's saying, we see you love blood, but we don't even know you, bro. Right? Okay. So we

00:42:31.460 accept you with open arms. You got to always communicate, bro.

00:42:39.040 Didn't want to use a C.

00:42:40.840 You family now. It's one of the 23 rules. I'm responsible for you. So we got to make sure

00:42:48.160 everything is on point. And you got to work on your lingo. We will talk more when we push

00:42:54.820 upset. Right?

00:42:56.620 Right.

00:42:57.340 Did I read that correctly?

00:42:59.240 Yes.

00:42:59.760 Okay.

00:43:00.020 Okay.

00:43:00.100 And then if you guys can see there, basically Melly responded, Hey guys, I've been busy.

00:43:10.200 I'm doing radio runs, et cetera. So this is really good on the defense attorney showing

00:43:14.400 that Melly isn't a full fledged gang member, but I'll talk about this in a little bit. That's 0.59

00:43:19.480 not really relevant for gang cases, but I'll explain why.

00:43:22.640 Okay. But this is good because he's doing this in front of a jury, you know?

00:43:29.600 It's 2018 at 1242 30. And the question is, yo, is this true? Right?

00:43:40.380 Right.

00:43:40.980 Day of the murder. Murders. Sorry. Right?

00:43:44.600 Yes.

00:43:46.340 And Kirk is asking Melly if it's true what he's seeing on social media, what we saw was a post

00:43:54.480 about Anthony Williams and Christopher Thomas being killed.

00:43:59.580 Right.

00:44:00.240 Okay.

00:44:02.960 And then he says, that's at 1026, 1242.

00:44:09.580 And then at 1026, 55, 57, 10. Damn, bro. I'm sorry for your loss. I know shit hard for

00:44:21.160 you right now, but keep your head up. Yo, keep your head up. You, I wish I could have been

00:44:27.980 there to guide you. If it's anything you need, bro, let me know. Don't hesitate to bark at

00:44:34.720 me.

00:44:35.360 And remember guys, because at this point, they think that Melly was a victim of a drive-by

00:44:38.700 shooting. That's why they're reaching out the way that they did.

00:44:41.180 That you didn't see that as condolences. What you're saying is he was saying, I hope

00:44:45.880 I was hoping I would be there to guide you in killing people. That's how you interpret

00:44:51.760 that.

00:44:53.220 Yeah. I'm going to speculate again. Or do you want me to just give you my professional opinion?

00:44:57.720 Well, because based off the way he gains robbery, I can tell you why this makes sense.

00:45:04.540 Ah. When you, how are you distinguishing your speculation from your professional opinion?

00:45:11.720 You're the one distinguishing it, sir. Pardon me? You're the one distinguishing it. I'm trying

00:45:19.060 to get it out. So your, your professional opinion is your speculation? My expert opinion

00:45:25.720 about gang testimony, about gang knowledge is what I can testify to. And that's only as

00:45:33.560 good as this expertise that you profess to have. Okay. Okay. Okay. But your interpretation

00:45:44.580 of that communication was that he's saying, I wish I was there to guide you on how to do

00:45:51.280 this. Right? Right. Because my grandfather died. No one called me and said, I wish I could

00:45:57.280 have guided you. He said, I send my condolences. I hope you, I hope you're okay. This is, I

00:46:03.660 wish I could guide you. Guide you how?

00:46:05.840 Hasn't Hurt been trying to guide him the whole time in growing up, being a man, being a brother?

00:46:14.840 Yes. Did you say that? Did you see that?

00:46:17.400 I did. I saw that. Okay. And you are basing-

00:46:21.840 All right. What, what you guys are witnessing right now is really good fucking cross-examination

00:46:27.120 content. So I need you guys to really pay attention to what the hell is going on here.

00:46:32.600 I'm pausing it because I really want to let y'all know this is fantastic cross-examination

00:46:36.840 by the defense attorney, but the detective is also doing a really good job standing his

00:46:42.740 ground and articulating why he believes that the guide you phrase was more along the lines

00:46:49.840 of could have guided you in a better way to kill your friends. And the defense attorney

00:46:53.980 is saying, well, wasn't he saying that he needs to guide me this entire situation? So

00:46:58.060 that's kind of a moot point. So this is really good cross-examination by, uh, by the defense

00:47:02.520 attorney and good response by the detective. Please listen up. This is good proper cross-examination

00:47:06.980 guys. Good lawyer on Melly's side over here.

00:47:09.520 Your professional opinion on the anecdotal example of how-

00:47:15.520 Guys, for those of you that are just joining, wondering why the hell is his head not showing?

00:47:19.520 Okay. You know what? We got a thousand live viewers. So you know what? Let's go ahead.

00:47:22.520 This is what's going on. We have a Bexar County Sheriff's Office detective that does

00:47:28.520 does undercover operations for gang narcotics and firearms investigations testifying. The first

00:47:35.140 thing he testified, which I think was at the end of last week, he wore a mask because they pretty

00:47:40.400 much had green linen for about $50,000, right? So normally you don't wear a mask in court. I mean,

00:47:46.840 I'll keep it a thousand with y'all. I rarely have even seen this. I've heard of it done in federal

00:47:50.200 courtrooms and stuff, but it's not common. So now he's testifying without his mask on. However,

00:47:55.160 they're not showing him on camera. Okay. So the reason why the camera angle is like that is to

00:48:00.640 hide the identity of this deputy. He's been, who's been greenlit because of his undercover work.

00:48:05.640 Okay. He's testifying right now as a subject matter expert on the bloods gang, namely the G

00:48:11.000 shine set bloods that Melly is allegedly a member of. He's being cross-examined by the defense

00:48:17.580 council on testimony that he gave on direct from the prosecutor. This guy's a prosecution's

00:48:22.360 witness, obviously, because he's law enforcement officer. So he's been testifying about Melly's

00:48:27.500 involvement with the blood gang. Why is this important? The reason why this is important

00:48:31.680 is because the state is pursuing the death penalty and a pivotal and crucial component of them being

00:48:37.320 able to get the death penalty is them being able to establish that Melly is in fact a gang member with

00:48:42.500 the G shine bloods. So this subject matter expert is trying to show and articulate that Melly was in 0.97

00:48:48.180 fact a member of this gang and they're showing communication between Melly and members of the

00:48:55.060 gang. And the defense council is trying to articulate that Melly was never really a member of the gang.

00:48:59.860 He's not even responding to these guys. Um, they're not even like the text messages before,

00:49:05.060 Hey, you can't meet the grandfather yet. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So defense, you know,

00:49:09.460 is doing what they do. They're trying to create doubt that Melly as a gang member,

00:49:14.020 while the detective is alleging that he is. So now we are where we're at right now where I paused

00:49:19.540 the video. And this is fantastic cross-examination because now the defense attorney is going to

00:49:24.320 challenge the detective on a lot of the statements he made the day prior about Melly being a gang

00:49:28.000 member fucking down. You're only going to get a better explanation than that of what the fuck is

00:49:34.480 going on here. So, uh, 1000 y'all in here, like the video best breakdown on this case on the internet

00:49:40.220 because nobody can break this down to this degree on YouTube. Why? Because I've actually done gang

00:49:44.680 investigations. Also, I want to give you guys this special note as well. A person does not have

00:49:51.120 to be proven to be a verified member of a gang to be charged as if he's a member of the gang. Okay.

00:49:57.500 Hold on one more time. A gang member guys does not need to be identified as a verified full-fledged

00:50:05.440 member of the gang to be charged as a gang member. I'll give you an example of this. As you guys

00:50:11.380 remember, back in 2018, a guy named Daniel Hernandez, AKA Takashi 6ix9ine was charged in a federal

00:50:21.680 racketeering investigation as being a member of the Nine Trey Bloods. Well, we know that 6ix9ine, 1.00

00:50:30.360 after the fact, was never actually a full-fledged gang member. He was merely an associate

00:50:34.200 that supported, financed, and had the gang around him for protection purposes. The government don't

00:50:40.040 give a fuck about none of that, though. It doesn't matter if you're beat in, you're jumped into the

00:50:44.020 gang, or you're flagging, or you're not, false flagged, it don't matter. As long as the government

00:50:49.620 can prove that you are committing criminal activity and or committing acts in furtherance of the gang

00:50:55.440 nine out of ten times, that is enough to suffice to charge you under any type of gang statutes,

00:51:01.340 whether it's racketeering, which is the highest threshold, or something like this, where they're

00:51:06.120 trying to establish that you're a gang member so they could push for the death penalty. I think

00:51:10.260 regardless of whether they're able to establish that he's a verified member or not, it doesn't

00:51:15.880 matter because there's a bunch of evidence out there showing that he's at least an associate,

00:51:20.680 and more than likely that will be enough to trigger the death penalty portion of this trial,

00:51:29.500 should Mellie be found guilty, okay? So let's keep going. Pay attention, guys. It's a great

00:51:36.680 cross-examination, by the way. Like the goddamn video for that recap.

00:51:40.820 What somebody said to you when your grandfather died?

00:51:44.420 Not just my grandfather, sir.

00:51:45.620 All right. Let's look at page 83. We're panning out.

00:52:10.940 A whole bunch of texts from her that weren't responded to, right?

00:52:21.560 Right.

00:52:22.400 Okay. See they're from her.

00:52:24.960 First one is 11-1-2018-940-52.

00:52:41.600 Vett, just checking up on you, and SL, what does SL mean?

00:52:48.920 Shine love.

00:52:50.060 Shine love.

00:52:50.720 So all I know is say 100%. And then we have on 11-4, and this again is now after the incident

00:53:06.280 now, right? 11-4 is after the incident issue in this case, right?

00:53:11.820 Yes.

00:53:12.060 Okay. Good show, Herc. You have me turn. Be safe on the road to fool.

00:53:21.420 You know what that means? Shine love.

00:53:26.420 Then, four days later, yo, bro, hit me when he's free. Got to give you some food.

00:53:33.640 Are you suggesting that it's him saying, I got to give you some, somebody to kill?

00:53:41.920 I don't think so.

00:53:43.020 Okay.

00:53:47.580 And then at 11-37, same day, send me, bro, IG, and I'm sending food now. Make sure you check

00:53:59.260 it out.

00:54:04.040 And 11-8, 12-58.

00:54:08.620 More or less, east side, banging blood. I be the true and living. Stand on ground with

00:54:14.220 devotion, outstanding. A loyalty for cause. Ola, repping the shine family. Cause real riders

00:54:21.220 don't sweat. Therefore, it's platinum, gold, gold, platinum. Double O-1, G's up. Even when

00:54:28.000 my mind, body, and soul depart. Forever expanding the mind. Height line. Black. 1.00

00:54:38.180 Yes, that would be the food he was referring to, the knowledge.

00:54:41.360 Okay.

00:54:41.600 Okay. So the, the knowledge that he is sending him is this word salad right here, right?

00:54:48.660 Yeah.

00:54:55.060 And then it said, I've got a new scrap I want to show you.

00:54:57.580 And then page 84. It's, uh, bus at me when you're free.

00:55:13.480 Uh, 11-11 at 12-33. And then 11-17. I'm sorry. 11-13 at 11-17. Two days later. Add me back,

00:55:31.920 you ugly ass. What do you, do you interpret that? 0.54

00:55:36.040 Are you going to allow me to?

00:55:39.300 How are you?

00:55:40.260 Yeah. It sounds like he didn't, uh, accept his friend request.

00:55:45.520 Sounds like what?

00:55:46.380 He didn't accept his friend request.

00:55:48.240 And he's saying, add me back.

00:55:49.880 Yes.

00:55:50.560 Okay.

00:55:59.880 The reason why the defense attorney is showing this stuff is to show that, look,

00:56:04.440 Melly's not even really a part of the gang. Like, look, he's not acknowledging these guys.

00:56:08.140 He's not responding. He's not accepting their friend requests, et cetera, et cetera.

00:56:14.980 He says at the top, hit me B-S-A-P. That's A-S-A-P, right? 0.99

00:56:22.740 Correct.

00:56:23.420 Hit me A-S-A-P. 1.00

00:56:25.040 And he sends that at 8-20 on 11-18. At 8-20, he gets a return.

00:56:34.440 So you gave him an A-S-A-P or B-S-A-P response.

00:56:39.420 It took him two minutes.

00:56:40.760 All right, two minutes. Okay.

00:56:44.020 And then,

00:56:45.500 Herc says,

00:56:46.240 bet.

00:56:47.880 And he says,

00:56:48.540 hit me when you're free.

00:56:49.720 Nothing major.

00:56:51.980 Then what does this Y-O-O-1 mean again?

00:56:55.340 Double-O-1 means blood love.

00:56:57.660 Okay.

00:56:58.060 So they just use it when you're in language.

00:57:00.040 Throw up blood love. 0.99

00:57:00.780 Okay.

00:57:01.140 You spell your blood.

00:57:02.080 You put a little one inside of it.

00:57:03.940 It's just how they incorporate the signs and symbols into their writing.

00:57:08.800 Got it.

00:57:09.400 I sent you a beat.

00:57:10.800 Tell me what you think about it.

00:57:13.280 I was hoping you can put a hook on it,

00:57:16.240 if you like.

00:57:17.600 That one instead,

00:57:19.180 let me know what you think.

00:57:20.840 Right?

00:57:21.620 And you discussed that yesterday.

00:57:23.600 Yes.

00:57:24.060 And a beat is a music track.

00:57:27.740 Yeah.

00:57:28.220 And a hook is a rap.

00:57:30.220 Or some lyrics.

00:57:31.100 A verse.

00:57:31.920 A verse.

00:57:32.540 Yeah.

00:57:33.080 And he's like sending him a beat,

00:57:37.520 and he wants him to put a hook on it.

00:57:38.880 Sure.

00:57:39.440 Okay.

00:57:40.340 This would be some self-serving effort

00:57:42.960 to try and advance his own music career,

00:57:50.220 let's say.

00:57:51.220 Yeah.

00:57:51.740 Okay.

00:57:54.060 Let's have a process.

00:58:23.100 Page 93.

00:58:43.600 That exchange starts from 1025 at 120409.

00:58:50.140 What's it looking like?

00:58:53.100 At 1125 at 1210, he responds, everything 05, they're on the road.

00:59:00.820 Right?

00:59:01.420 Right.

00:59:01.980 Okay.

00:59:03.120 And then on 1125 at 2013, bed it up.

00:59:12.080 Shine right, shine bright, shine bright, shine love, bro.

00:59:18.300 Right?

00:59:19.040 According to what you say, SL means, right?

00:59:22.400 Yes.

00:59:23.100 Okay.

00:59:24.020 And then three days later at 1030, or sorry, 1003, boy, I see ugly ass on TV represented. 1.00

00:59:34.900 Right?

00:59:35.400 Right.

00:59:36.380 Okay.

00:59:36.760 And then two days later at 1050, 57, Y001, rise up, Herb.

00:59:45.580 See that?

00:59:46.340 See it.

00:59:46.760 And then on 12-5, just now five days later, 12-0-2.

00:59:52.960 Sam, what's up, bro?

00:59:53.960 Sam, what's up, bro?

00:59:57.520 We beeping or something?

00:59:58.700 I know you view me barking at you.

01:00:00.960 I just be trying to check up on you.

01:00:06.820 That's one of the 31 rules of an and rarely care about you, bro.

01:00:12.440 Because that fake rocking.

01:00:13.440 Because that fake rocking, we don't roll like that, bro.

01:00:18.100 Knowing this five does, we straight up with each other because we're going to die by this

01:00:23.960 GSF shit.

01:00:24.900 Hey, you heard.

01:00:28.020 Just let me know what's up.

01:00:30.160 Right?

01:00:30.940 Yes, sir.

01:00:31.740 So, he's just getting no responses.

01:00:33.740 He's like, bro, we beeping or something?

01:00:34.960 What's up?

01:00:36.500 Right?

01:00:37.300 Fairly.

01:00:37.680 Okay.

01:00:40.880 So, we don't know what calls were or were not made, but we know, at least on this occasion,

01:00:46.640 the communication was sufficiently lacking for him to be like, bro, are we beeping?

01:00:51.200 Agreed.

01:00:52.420 So, again, defense attorney is doing a good job here of trying to establish that Millie 1.00

01:00:57.220 doesn't even talk to these people, so how can he actually be a part of the gang?

01:00:59.780 And for a jury, this is very powerful because they might not necessarily know the ins and

01:01:08.280 outs of gang culture unless the subject matter expert explains it, who's on the stand right

01:01:12.380 now.

01:01:12.920 We beeping?

01:01:14.280 Looks like it's meant to say, bro, did you really just say we beeping?

01:01:18.100 Right?

01:01:19.300 Okay.

01:01:21.720 And there's a status sent, whatever that is.

01:01:26.620 And his response is from her, of course, you're not beeping, bro, but you got to do better

01:01:34.620 on your communication with your five doves.

01:01:37.500 That's part of getting your staying together.

01:01:39.980 Oops.

01:01:40.540 Can't see that.

01:01:42.380 What's this one?

01:01:46.160 Right?

01:01:47.240 I see it.

01:01:48.120 All right.

01:01:51.120 His response, her, nigga, damn busy. 1.00

01:01:54.840 And he says, flight to flight, don't even see my mama, don't even see my mama text on God.

01:02:06.440 Right?

01:02:07.100 Right.

01:02:07.720 So he's saying that on my phone, I don't even see my mom's text coming, let alone yours.

01:02:15.020 Right.

01:02:15.600 Okay.

01:02:15.840 And his response is, and I smell that, bro.

01:02:20.820 I think you covered this yesterday.

01:02:23.820 And I smell that, bro, but this GSF shit is a real, real, real, or are real?

01:02:30.620 Real right.

01:02:31.360 Real right.

01:02:33.480 Hold on.

01:02:34.140 Don't the right, R coming for the real?

01:02:36.000 Real right is are real?

01:02:37.900 We're doing the double R because double R stands for real right. 0.99

01:02:41.540 It's just more like when they put the double O1 inside the blood.

01:02:44.960 It's just cheesy.

01:02:46.460 I need real right.

01:02:47.200 Okay.

01:02:48.300 And I smell that, bro, but this GSF shit is a real right, mom.

01:02:52.800 Regardless of how busy you are, how busy we all get, we always got to make sure we find

01:03:00.180 time to check up on the bros, even trouble trouble.

01:03:04.220 Do it, bro.

01:03:05.040 And he's a big artist like you.

01:03:09.860 It's nothing personal.

01:03:11.920 We're not saying we want all your time.

01:03:14.660 Just text and let us know you good.

01:03:17.080 That's all, bro.

01:03:18.180 You say your brothers, you say you brothers, but you be showing us different.

01:03:24.800 We really got real love for you, Herb, 110%.

01:03:28.720 Right?

01:03:29.440 Right.

01:03:29.920 So he's saying, look, man, I hear you.

01:03:31.280 Do you need?

01:03:36.180 I'm sorry?

01:03:38.160 Sure.

01:03:45.840 Again, like I said before, all right, so the sidebar is going on right now.

01:03:48.880 So we got a little bit of time for some of you guys that are unaware, a sidebar is basically

01:03:54.560 when the lawyers from both opposing sides, the defense and the prosecution get together

01:04:01.300 and have a discussion, whether it's on legality situation, evidence, procedure, whatever it may

01:04:09.860 be, they kind of go there and mediate it out with the judge.

01:04:13.280 They go to the judge's thing and they talk and then they go back and, you know, they kind

01:04:19.360 of get on the same page and continue to argue their points in court.

01:04:22.220 Okay.

01:04:23.220 Thank you.

01:04:24.220 Thank you.

01:04:25.220 Let the room reflect the jury stepped out.

01:04:27.220 Councilor Maynall has said it.

01:04:28.220 I think Dr. Tolkien, who's dead, sees a restroom break.

01:04:29.220 Take care of that for me.

01:04:30.220 All right.

01:04:31.220 That's regarding the photographs.

01:04:32.220 Is the doctor here yet?

01:04:33.220 She is not in the courthouse and they were saying that she was in a garage.

01:04:40.220 Let me know, I don't know exactly when we're going to get to her and talk about the photographs.

01:04:58.220 i'll explain what's going on here in a second for you guys

01:05:03.400 and you guys are probably wondering why the fuck is this shit so weird or whatever 0.86

01:05:16.040 randomly putting the camera up and stuff this is a live trial guys so uh they have to you know

01:05:21.640 obviously be cognizant of certain things but it looks to me yeah court is a short recess all right

01:05:27.060 what i predicted all right so basically it looks to me that the undercover sheriff's deputy is now

01:05:34.440 done testifying he's been testifying for multiple days now guys about melly's involvement in the

01:05:41.520 gang uh obviously the state is trying to let's say he is a member of the gang the defense is trying to

01:05:46.120 say he's not um the prosecution showed text messages saying that now he's using gang vernacular he's

01:05:52.400 communicating with these guys they show pictures of him throwing bees and all this other stuff

01:05:56.820 and then the defense showed other instances where melly wasn't necessarily responding using

01:06:01.840 case in his communication uh not necessarily being um uh the gang not acknowledging to the same level

01:06:10.040 you can't be around the godfather we don't know you like that but we got love for you so

01:06:14.120 it's the defense is doing a good job right now of trying to create reasonable doubt that melly might

01:06:23.260 not necessarily be a full-fledged member of this gang again i discussed this a second ago that might

01:06:28.980 not necessarily matter because we've seen so many cases where individuals that weren't necessarily

01:06:33.600 full-fledged gang members still got charged under racketeering laws um even though they were just

01:06:39.360 associates and obviously the threshold of being federally prosecuted for racketeering is way higher

01:06:46.080 than that of being proven as a gang member in a state trial okay uh because obviously in that

01:06:52.300 situation they got approved beyond a reasonable doubt that he's all that he's guilty committing

01:06:56.340 acts and furtherance of a gang so we'll see what happens the state system is completely different

01:07:01.880 uh the jury might not necessarily i don't even know if they even get to weigh in on this but i think it

01:07:07.700 will be a component when they're deliberating because obviously that's going to be a crucial component

01:07:11.680 and whether the state of florida can pursue the death penalty that's why they spent so much time

01:07:17.220 with this detective trying to establish that melly is a gang member so all right let's go ahead and get

01:07:21.700 into the chats guys so if you guys got any questions shoot them now because uh while the court is in

01:07:24.880 recess i'm going to read these shots and answer questions uh we got here ljmbd5 goes morning

01:07:30.180 wiring gains i need advice i'm 29 year old married truck driver i'm deciding if i should become law uh

01:07:35.700 a law enforcement uh officer in camden new jersey trucking is good money but long hours with no benefits well

01:07:45.380 my friend this is where you got to kind of have to choose what you want to do here as far as um

01:07:51.160 what you're going to enjoy more so you're going to make six figures as a law enforcement officer in

01:07:57.940 new jersey and you're also going to make six figures as a truck driver it really comes down

01:08:02.100 more to what you want to do what you enjoy what your passion is so i would say in those two career

01:08:07.040 fields don't be a cop unless you actually want to do it don't be a cop unless you actually want to do

01:08:13.140 it now they're going to give their insight with the court crime tv uh let's go ahead and see what

01:08:17.360 they got to say real quick trial here on long crime today is day nine of that trial against

01:08:21.480 jamel demmons he faces two counts of first degree murder and the shooting deaths of his two friends

01:08:25.880 we want to jump back into that broward county courtroom we're listening to the cross-examination

01:08:30.120 of undercover detective danny polo about the connection between the defense but just to finish

01:08:35.460 off you don't want to become a cop unless you really want to do it bro it's not an easy job

01:08:39.080 okay now they're recapping it

01:08:41.640 next page 53 yes sir here comes another ask

01:08:51.940 150 45 all right we went over this so let me go back to the chats here so um one second

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01:12:01.380 and be happy when she dictates dictates terms it's going to be a miserable experience my friends

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01:12:24.200 guess what being able to attract women is going to keep her in that frame because women only give 1.00

01:12:30.080 you their submission and loyalty when they know that you can replace them easily that is a very

01:12:35.320 important thing that for some odd reason isn't broadcasted out in the mainstream media or dating

01:12:43.080 circles in general like we're over here telling women that they're equal to men and it's a partnership

01:12:47.580 and all this other bs it's cap man women will never be equal to men they don't want to be equal 0.98

01:12:52.460 to men and you shouldn't treat them as equals because they will punish you for treating them 0.79

01:12:57.140 like an equal let's get back to it that the defense is making here what do you think the prosecution

01:13:02.080 is going to do when they go on redirect i feel like they have to rehabilitate this witness a little

01:13:06.560 bit they have to rehabilitate him and they also have to you know really get in here that he what is

01:13:12.760 rehabilitating a witness rehabilitating a witness guys is after they go through a cross-examination

01:13:17.020 where they get beat up a little bit it's the the person who brought that witness in the first place

01:13:23.380 so in this case it's a prosecution witness so they're going to go in there they're going to go ahead

01:13:27.180 and clarify some of the things that might have looked a little offer iffy when the defense was

01:13:33.260 cross-examining him okay so what they might say is is it not true that you know a gang member can

01:13:41.380 mess up and use a k in one instance and and not have meant to do that when they were supposed to

01:13:45.620 be used as a use a c excuse me when they not should not have done that yes it is possible blah blah blah

01:13:50.940 so they're going to go ahead and try to um re-establish more credibility from their witness that

01:13:57.240 might have lost a little bit of credibility on the stand which is inevitable when you're on the stand

01:14:00.440 especially as long as this guy was you're going to lose a little bit of credibility on a cross

01:14:03.860 because you said so much and the defense can go ahead and hone in a little points that you made

01:14:08.100 during hours of testimony to make you look crazy that's their job now it's the prosecutor's job

01:14:12.540 to bring back that credibility and show that the defense was merely trying to pick at certain things

01:14:18.500 and um deflect and kind of put smoke and mirrors to the jury so we're going to see how good this

01:14:24.300 prosecutor is we're rehabilitating their witness but that's what rehabilitating a witness means guys

01:14:28.300 uh i'm giving y'all fucking sauce right now 0.99

01:14:31.800 god damn all right let's keep going he's got a lot of experience with this that he wasn't biased when

01:14:40.160 he came up here that he reviewed with no sleep too did all this and it goes to show that this was

01:14:45.220 gang related he was part of a gang i think it's telling y'all guys i'll do this shit in my sleep 0.92

01:14:49.600 man half awake still giving y'all this fire why because i used to do this i've done gang investigations

01:14:55.440 i've arrested people that are bloods crips latin kings i know this shit okay so this is right up 0.98

01:15:03.740 my alley so i'm really excited and happy to share this information with y'all um so yeah anyway let's

01:15:09.720 keep going it's going to be tough though because some of the uh text messages that we're seeing

01:15:14.400 they're they're it's condolence it's like i heard about what you're going through you're hurting

01:15:18.540 i've been through it so it really is going to be a hard uh hurdle to overcome for the prosecution

01:15:23.940 i can't help but think what the defense says and i don't want this just to be in a show where

01:15:27.780 we're attacking the prosecution but i do want to think about what well that is that is what y'all

01:15:33.540 been doing the whole trial the law and crime network has been very favorable to melly saying

01:15:38.380 that he's innocent or they don't even have evidence blah blah blah stupid uh yeah yeah we'll see 0.64

01:15:44.220 defense said is that this was a box the next witness that's going to come up by the way if i'm

01:15:48.420 not mistaken because the judge i don't know if y'all caught it he asked is the doctor here

01:15:52.440 if it's who i think it is he means the medical examiner that medical examiner is going to blow

01:15:59.240 this case wide open guys because the medical examiner is going to testify that not only were

01:16:06.040 the victims dead when the drive-by shooting allegedly occurred because they were able to figure out

01:16:11.160 that they were shot they the fatal shots killed them blood stopped pumping because the heart obviously

01:16:16.960 stopped and then they were shot after the fact in the stage drive-by shooting and they didn't bleed

01:16:22.000 with the same uh they didn't bleed as profusely when they got shot at the fact because they were

01:16:28.060 already dead and then the the he's gonna the medical examiner is also going to testify to the direction

01:16:32.800 of the bullets the fatal wounds all that stuff so that's what's gonna kind of destroy

01:16:38.200 melly's co-defendant portland's story that they had been attacked in a drive-by shooting and melly

01:16:45.660 actually said that they got attacked in a drive-by shooting in indirectly in his documentary that he

01:16:51.240 released in 2018 which actually self-sniffs on himself because in that documentary he said

01:16:56.520 melly and his friends were targets of a drive-by shooting well why is that important that puts melly

01:17:03.340 at the scene which is what he's been trying to avoid so his own documentary fucked him up because he 0.94

01:17:10.080 proved that he had been at the scene and they were victims of a drive-by shooting which the examiner

01:17:15.280 is going to be able to prove with wound patterns stipeling uh uh the victims already being dead when

01:17:23.360 they were shot on the second round of shots all of this is going to be shown when the medical examiner

01:17:28.180 comes in who i think is more than likely up next to testify so uh yeah you know it is what it is let's

01:17:35.160 keep going see that what these guys i think over here at law and crime network investigate some of

01:17:39.620 them are dead wrong i ain't gonna lie there was immediately targeting uh their client because

01:17:44.940 he's famous and now i'm listening and thinking about the prosecution's case and i'm wondering was

01:17:48.980 it a mistake to call this witness they could have i'm imagine called a different expert in in gang

01:17:55.720 culture he was already controversial with the mask do you think that this was a bad road for them to go

01:18:00.440 down uh they making more losses here because it seems like this witness is now uh not doing so

01:18:05.660 under cross well i think it needed somebody that had some experience in dealing with these types of

01:18:11.580 um criminal enterprises to be able to um explain to the jury what these words meant i mean i you know

01:18:19.900 um the jury's still going to be able to look at these communications and reach their own conclusions

01:18:24.560 so i i in in that sense um they didn't have someone on the inside that could actually link

01:18:31.000 the defendant to the gang to the criminal act that's true and that's where you usually get in

01:18:36.600 these kinds of cases but they didn't have that so now they had to sort of circumstantially

01:18:41.080 create that link and i think that that's what they did right now it's it's almost like they're

01:18:46.200 taking this language they're taking these messages they're taking these videos and translating it

01:18:51.020 like it's rosetta stone for everybody to understand what the significance of it is um janina tamian i

01:18:56.120 know we got to sign you off thank you so much for taking the time really do appreciate it bob hill

01:19:00.420 is going to stay with me uh we have a lot more for you here on long crime we'll be right back right

01:19:04.600 all right let's go back to the live the 98

01:19:14.700 name of uh robert county nitrate gangster blood member okay i'm robinson but he's not saying he's

01:19:24.160 booban hurt no he's a nitrate gangster blood okay okay it looks like they're still on uh cross here

01:19:31.320 because the person he's talking to on page 115 says oh i thought you said he was hurt

01:19:40.620 right at least whoever goon is thought he was saying booban is hurt yeah okay

01:19:49.840 defense is probably going to wrap up their cross here very soon and then they're going to go and

01:20:00.680 redirect and then probably bring in an ex-witness

01:20:02.540 by the way guys we got 1300 y'all watching right now almost 1400 but we only got 800 something likes

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01:20:37.140 you know what we are there thank you very much thank you sir you want me to leave this up here

01:20:48.060 sure okay thank you counselor is there any redirect yes sir you're ready to make your speech thank you

01:20:55.660 detective fuller do you make your determination as to whether or not someone is a gang member

01:21:00.640 okay it looks like we're about to go into redirect so that woman that's speaking is the prosecutor

01:21:04.920 guys multitude of factors and i like it her job now is to rehabilitate the witness which we just 1.00

01:21:11.900 just discussed bring back some of that credibility that might have been lost on cross-examination

01:21:15.340 when he was questioned by the defense

01:21:16.440 we had uh limited information i don't want to come to court with that determination

01:21:21.480 and it turns out is mr williams on trial today he's in contact

01:21:26.000 okay and when a person becomes a member of a gang

01:21:30.640 is it a lifetime membership

01:21:32.920 depends on the gang

01:21:37.420 depending on circumstances depends on the person

01:21:40.760 sometimes they're allowed to be put on the shelf you know stay out or not be an active member

01:21:47.760 okay so you mentioned put on the shelf that's a term you haven't used before what does that mean

01:21:51.900 just a term to say that the person is not actively involved in the current nugget error in the

01:21:59.080 gangs activity it's not necessarily just a criminal portion of it but the gang activities it might not be

01:22:05.020 going meetings and stuff like that

01:22:07.020 okay you also used the term meal ticket is that something that has a particular

01:22:11.320 connotation in regards to gangs

01:22:14.720 yeah so uh

01:22:16.860 i think it's been going on for as long as i can think

01:22:21.720 gangs have always used rappers rappers have always used gangs

01:22:26.120 to promote each other gangs use rappers because

01:22:30.200 rappers bringing money fame things of that sort

01:22:34.240 women as we saw in the text messages and the rappers use the gang for support

01:22:41.000 so they can get into certain venues because they might not be allowed to certain venues

01:22:44.940 as we saw in some of the texts unless they have that support

01:22:48.580 so you mentioned that they use each other

01:22:53.080 yes

01:22:54.240 how is that reflected in the messages and in your opinion based on what you've seen

01:22:58.080 well it appears that

01:23:02.040 maybe meli wasn't reciprocating as much as they were asking him to

01:23:07.780 um

01:23:09.780 but they were asking him to

01:23:11.120 right

01:23:11.880 give me chains

01:23:12.880 give me to the show

01:23:13.820 post me on social media

01:23:15.080 you know

01:23:16.040 minor asks

01:23:16.940 some

01:23:17.420 well some minor asks

01:23:18.480 so

01:23:18.800 asking for ten thousand dollars

01:23:20.160 maybe

01:23:21.020 might not be a

01:23:21.860 minor ask

01:23:23.080 some people

01:23:25.740 think that's a lot of money

01:23:27.000 and if there are a certain amount of latitude or

01:23:31.540 give

01:23:33.000 when the gang wants something

01:23:35.160 yeah that's what I mean

01:23:38.380 especially if you have

01:23:39.780 if you have fame and they're trying to use that fame

01:23:41.900 and they're going to give you a little more

01:23:44.420 space

01:23:45.520 a little more wiggle room

01:23:46.440 because they don't want to lose you

01:23:47.200 this is

01:23:48.240 evidence with other rappers

01:23:50.100 who claim gang affiliations

01:23:51.960 and

01:23:52.260 they don't travel for a gang

01:23:54.080 in the game

01:23:54.740 okay and

01:23:56.660 state 70

01:23:59.280 council made a big deal about

01:24:02.400 the lack of

01:24:03.480 responses that he perceives in this

01:24:06.180 yes

01:24:06.680 in terms of on page

01:24:10.600 47

01:24:12.280 there is no response from january 3rd to january 25th

01:24:19.120 are there circumstances in which a person's not allowed to have possession of a cell phone

01:24:24.520 without going into what those circumstances are

01:24:26.460 yeah

01:24:28.160 i didn't want to mention them

01:24:29.460 okay

01:24:29.920 so you mentioned as well that the messages don't show

01:24:41.560 phone calls

01:24:43.740 no

01:24:45.280 phone calls

01:24:46.420 facetimes

01:24:47.340 instagram

01:24:49.520 facetime

01:24:50.300 facebook

01:24:53.160 facetime

01:24:53.800 and so in terms of

01:24:55.620 the state is like to publish at this point

01:24:57.280 part of state 64

01:24:59.340 showing

01:25:00.800 hey guys we're at 980 likes man

01:25:12.920 let's get this bitch to 1.00

01:25:14.000 1.1k man

01:25:15.700 it should be easy

01:25:16.540 120 likes is nothing

01:25:18.860 let's do it guys

01:25:19.640 we got

01:25:20.500 1.4k watching right now

01:25:22.740 almost

01:25:23.260 1396 on my end

01:25:24.780 so guys like the video

01:25:26.100 let's get up to 1.1

01:25:27.920 i haven't slept yet just so y'all know

01:25:30.500 this isn't an early morning for me

01:25:31.740 this is a late night

01:25:32.740 for some of you guys that are wondering

01:25:38.480 myron why do you look so high

01:25:39.660 bro i've never done a drug in my life

01:25:41.140 never will do a drug in my life

01:25:42.220 never smoked weed in my life

01:25:43.360 rarely even drink

01:25:44.900 uh so

01:25:46.080 i'm just really tired

01:25:47.600 because i haven't slept yet man

01:25:48.640 to give you all this content

01:25:49.560 so the only thing i ask is

01:25:50.860 subscribe to the channel

01:25:51.960 share this video with a friend

01:25:53.180 and like it god damn it 0.74

01:25:54.620 that's all i ask

01:25:57.920 don't be a ninja watcher

01:25:59.920 publishing from what has been admitted to evidence

01:26:02.840 is state 64

01:26:04.060 the extraction of the phone

01:26:07.280 from the 9807 phone number

01:26:09.660 and this is one of the

01:26:12.180 10,963 images that are contained on this phone

01:26:16.680 what is this showing

01:26:18.280 missed facetime calls

01:26:20.520 messages received

01:26:22.240 more facetime calls

01:26:24.360 specifically is there a missed facetime call from gino

01:26:28.720 gino's there

01:26:30.440 and is that one of the numbers in the contacts that we just went over

01:26:34.160 that is yeah

01:26:35.040 that's one of the text threads that we went over

01:26:37.020 and there are messages

01:26:38.300 from gino are there messages from gino on january 2nd

01:26:41.960 so i would have to double check

01:26:46.260 but there's plenty of messages

01:26:49.520 for example page 47

01:27:09.080 gino

01:27:10.440 january 2nd 2018

01:27:13.240 hey we're always working guys

01:27:25.460 i just updated the thumbnail

01:27:26.620 so if y'all are bored

01:27:27.460 refresh the page

01:27:28.220 and check out the new thumbnail

01:27:29.120 it's pretty fire

01:27:29.820 shout out to my guy nick

01:27:30.980 he just put it up man

01:27:31.860 the grind never ends god damn it 0.68

01:27:33.740 told y'all

01:27:37.800 fresh and fit

01:27:38.540 we are the best

01:27:39.720 nobody comes close

01:27:40.820 to the content quality that we make

01:27:42.880 the diversity that we make

01:27:43.940 just so y'all

01:27:44.620 real quick

01:27:45.240 i gotta pause this shit 0.87

01:27:45.900 just so i could flex real quick

01:27:47.200 for you guys

01:27:47.640 let you guys know

01:27:48.240 just so you guys know

01:27:49.460 we had brandon carter last night

01:27:51.540 right

01:27:51.820 this wednesday

01:27:53.060 we got

01:27:53.820 divorce attorneys coming in

01:27:55.380 we're gonna talk to y'all about paternity

01:27:56.740 protect yourself

01:27:57.540 from getting

01:27:58.600 you know

01:27:59.060 a chick trying to trap you 1.00

01:28:00.880 then we're gonna have

01:28:01.820 john zirka mcqueen in for the after hours

01:28:03.400 then we're gonna have

01:28:04.240 scott ridder on thursday

01:28:05.260 one of the best

01:28:06.080 geopolitical commentators

01:28:07.540 on the internet right now

01:28:08.560 especially when it comes to

01:28:09.520 the ukraine-russia conflict

01:28:10.540 then

01:28:11.320 we got

01:28:12.100 on friday

01:28:12.980 ryan dawson

01:28:13.740 and we're gonna talk about

01:28:14.880 9-11 part 3

01:28:15.720 we're gonna talk about

01:28:16.480 a whole cell

01:28:17.520 in tennessee

01:28:18.820 of them boys by the way

01:28:20.420 that was responsible

01:28:22.080 or behind

01:28:23.700 9-11

01:28:24.300 along with the

01:28:25.280 new york cell of them boys

01:28:26.680 you know what i'm saying

01:28:27.840 okay

01:28:28.680 uh

01:28:30.060 and how it all

01:28:31.280 works together

01:28:32.200 alongside the art student

01:28:33.740 them boys

01:28:34.320 so three cells of them boys

01:28:35.940 that we've already exposed

01:28:36.940 right

01:28:37.660 on uh

01:28:39.440 fresh and fit

01:28:40.280 thanks to ryan dawson

01:28:41.160 showing declassified

01:28:42.220 fbi documents

01:28:42.920 this is all fact

01:28:43.620 this is not speculation

01:28:44.420 this isn't crazy conspiracy theories

01:28:45.880 this is coming from

01:28:46.880 declassified documents

01:28:47.960 okay

01:28:48.700 that they declassified

01:28:50.080 recently because

01:28:50.700 this shit happened

01:28:51.200 20 years ago

01:28:51.740 and i don't think

01:28:52.120 anyone cares anymore

01:28:52.840 but they definitely do

01:28:53.860 so friday ryan dawson

01:28:55.540 then

01:28:56.200 i'm gonna drop

01:28:57.360 uh

01:28:57.800 then july 7th

01:28:59.620 nick fucking fuentes 0.99

01:29:00.560 one of the most

01:29:02.020 canceled people

01:29:02.620 coming

01:29:03.320 i'm working on

01:29:04.140 tommy sotomayor

01:29:05.020 i'm working on

01:29:06.000 um

01:29:06.440 some other guests

01:29:07.400 that i can't name

01:29:08.080 just yet for y'all

01:29:08.880 we got a lot of heat coming

01:29:10.440 uh

01:29:11.220 and then on this channel

01:29:12.340 you know what

01:29:15.560 i'm gonna reveal that

01:29:17.260 later on

01:29:18.060 what i got for this channel

01:29:19.160 i got something real special

01:29:20.020 for y'all

01:29:20.300 that i'm gonna share

01:29:20.940 on this channel

01:29:21.940 but let's get back

01:29:22.460 to the trial here

01:29:23.860 the extraction report

01:29:29.660 and things like that

01:29:30.720 is it able to recover

01:29:32.120 all deleted messages

01:29:33.340 i'll reveal at the end

01:29:35.020 of the stream

01:29:35.460 stay for the stream

01:29:36.240 and i'll tell y'all

01:29:36.780 what it is

01:29:37.160 the big surprise

01:29:37.780 messages that we went through

01:29:39.540 or in any of the other

01:29:40.740 messages you reviewed

01:29:41.620 on this phone

01:29:42.320 does the defendant

01:29:43.860 ever say

01:29:44.560 stop

01:29:45.260 no

01:29:47.160 just the complete opposite

01:29:48.220 sends his email

01:29:49.320 and says

01:29:50.000 feed me

01:29:50.660 send me more knowledge

01:29:51.620 i want these documents

01:29:53.360 basically

01:29:53.800 does the individual

01:29:56.320 with the 9807 phone

01:29:57.940 ever say

01:29:58.900 leave me alone 0.79

01:30:01.060 no i believe

01:30:03.940 the only altercation

01:30:05.120 of that sort

01:30:06.180 was with coon 0.99

01:30:07.400 when he decided

01:30:08.220 to not fall under

01:30:09.320 that lineup

01:30:10.480 so council asks you

01:30:13.040 if the phone

01:30:13.840 tells you

01:30:14.760 when messages

01:30:16.000 and things are

01:30:17.240 received

01:30:18.380 and who they're from

01:30:19.120 right

01:30:19.960 approximately how many

01:30:22.020 emails are unread

01:30:23.580 on this phone

01:30:24.860 on this phone

01:30:24.880 2072

01:30:26.100 and how many

01:30:28.100 text messages

01:30:30.040 or i messages

01:30:31.060 are unread

01:30:31.620 on this phone

01:30:32.160 at this point

01:30:32.760 195

01:30:33.680 the phone

01:30:37.900 has and shows

01:30:39.220 that the defendant

01:30:40.300 or whoever was using

01:30:41.540 the phone

01:30:41.920 i should say

01:30:42.620 went

01:30:43.540 and sought out

01:30:44.460 the email

01:30:44.960 from

01:30:45.580 japan merton

01:30:46.460 and opened it up

01:30:47.480 yes

01:30:48.200 you mentioned

01:30:52.880 as well

01:30:53.820 and there's a lot

01:30:54.400 of things

01:30:54.760 that the majority

01:30:55.780 of the messages

01:30:56.480 aren't from

01:30:57.580 october 26

01:30:59.080 of 2018

01:31:00.240 you would agree

01:31:01.220 with that

01:31:01.580 bro

01:31:02.360 yo

01:31:07.040 masad says

01:31:11.760 gonna have nick

01:31:12.660 and ryan dawson

01:31:13.460 that's a w

01:31:14.140 bro

01:31:14.580 the fucking

01:31:15.880 irony

01:31:16.400 i gotta screenshot

01:31:17.540 that shit

01:31:18.060 and send that

01:31:18.480 to these dudes

01:31:18.940 bro

01:31:19.260 all i'm gonna say

01:31:22.480 is if you know

01:31:23.020 you know

01:31:23.420 that's all i gotta say

01:31:24.900 i ain't gonna go

01:31:25.460 further than that

01:31:26.000 we're on youtube

01:31:26.500 baby

01:31:26.860 did you notice

01:31:31.820 any change

01:31:32.580 in spelling

01:31:33.760 or word choice

01:31:34.820 before

01:31:35.820 during and after

01:31:36.740 no language

01:31:38.960 was consistent

01:31:39.480 throughout

01:31:39.860 okay

01:31:40.740 uh

01:31:43.540 the council asked you

01:31:44.600 and brought up

01:31:45.280 to your attention

01:31:45.860 a message

01:31:46.420 where

01:31:47.180 mr jennings

01:31:49.000 or the 90-07 phone number

01:31:50.960 says that he has

01:31:52.360 friends that are

01:31:53.180 crips

01:31:53.640 could you explain

01:31:56.040 a little bit of that

01:31:56.740 spelling

01:31:57.100 general

01:31:57.420 so

01:31:59.620 i went

01:32:01.180 into this

01:32:02.100 during

01:32:02.440 my direct

01:32:03.760 that week

01:32:04.240 where

01:32:04.740 we're talking

01:32:06.100 about the

01:32:06.500 gang history

01:32:07.000 blood

01:32:07.360 blood gang

01:32:07.980 history

01:32:08.340 where

01:32:08.880 bloods were created

01:32:09.840 in west coast

01:32:10.940 california

01:32:11.520 to fight

01:32:12.040 crips

01:32:12.520 that's why

01:32:12.940 there's

01:32:13.260 derogatory terms

01:32:14.540 between the two

01:32:15.000 sides

01:32:15.420 but

01:32:16.640 there's been

01:32:18.160 multiple

01:32:18.980 multiple wrappers

01:32:21.060 multiple

01:32:22.000 reformed

01:32:23.460 gang members

01:32:23.900 who have come

01:32:24.280 out and

01:32:24.800 have squashed

01:32:26.000 these

01:32:26.860 these

01:32:29.260 beefs

01:32:30.180 right

01:32:30.440 they've come

01:32:31.440 out and

01:32:31.800 they've united

01:32:32.120 the community

01:32:32.580 and

01:32:33.680 although

01:32:34.740 they still

01:32:35.180 use these

01:32:35.520 terms with

01:32:35.940 each other

01:32:36.360 like anyone

01:32:38.620 would if they're

01:32:39.260 upset with

01:32:39.640 someone else

01:32:40.100 and they know

01:32:40.540 that person's

01:32:41.240 affiliation

01:32:42.460 or something

01:32:42.920 right now

01:32:45.940 there is no

01:32:46.460 ongoing

01:32:47.020 gang war

01:32:47.820 between

01:32:48.180 crips

01:32:48.600 and

01:32:48.820 bloods

01:32:49.360 there might

01:32:50.840 be specific

01:32:51.340 ones in

01:32:51.840 certain cities

01:32:52.580 where

01:32:52.920 maybe

01:32:53.440 one city

01:32:54.480 is occupied

01:32:54.980 by both

01:32:55.380 crips and

01:32:55.720 bloods

01:32:55.980 and they're

01:32:56.180 fighting for

01:32:56.520 territory

01:32:56.820 but that could

01:32:58.200 also be

01:32:58.860 blood on

01:32:59.740 blood and

01:33:00.180 violence

01:33:00.940 there's

01:33:01.300 plenty of

01:33:01.900 cities

01:33:02.260 in Broward

01:33:03.560 county

01:33:03.840 where

01:33:04.240 there's

01:33:05.000 six or

01:33:05.580 seven

01:33:05.740 different

01:33:06.000 blood sets

01:33:06.500 all fighting

01:33:07.040 for the

01:33:07.260 same

01:33:07.380 territory

01:33:07.780 there's no

01:33:09.180 allegiance

01:33:09.680 toward each

01:33:10.120 other

01:33:10.260 because

01:33:10.560 you belong

01:33:11.180 to your

01:33:11.460 set

01:33:11.720 and your

01:33:12.440 set's

01:33:12.740 going to

01:33:12.880 fight the

01:33:13.120 other set

01:33:13.480 because

01:33:14.540 it's about

01:33:15.220 you

01:33:15.600 your collective

01:33:16.600 your group

01:33:17.400 making money

01:33:18.340 not

01:33:19.060 everyone else's

01:33:21.020 so the whole

01:33:22.040 crips versus

01:33:22.780 blood thing

01:33:23.360 historically

01:33:24.260 yes that was

01:33:25.020 the thing

01:33:25.380 crips versus

01:33:26.280 bloods

01:33:26.700 crips versus

01:33:27.120 latin kings

01:33:27.640 crips versus

01:33:28.140 other

01:33:28.340 bloods versus

01:33:29.880 latin kings

01:33:30.760 UVM was created

01:33:31.920 for protection

01:33:32.520 against latin kings

01:33:33.780 the UVM

01:33:35.080 now falls under

01:33:37.000 people nation

01:33:37.620 people nation

01:33:38.720 as the latin kings

01:33:40.580 under it

01:33:41.040 so latin kings

01:33:42.180 and the blood

01:33:42.520 are now

01:33:42.880 allies

01:33:43.780 so gangs

01:33:46.340 evolve

01:33:46.920 allegiances

01:33:48.020 evolve

01:33:48.520 wars

01:33:49.740 happen

01:33:50.660 same way

01:33:51.500 one

01:33:51.980 you know

01:33:52.500 countries

01:33:52.960 are sometimes

01:33:53.560 at peace

01:33:54.160 and then

01:33:54.460 sometimes

01:33:54.700 countries

01:33:55.120 are at war

01:33:55.760 it's the same

01:33:56.340 thing

01:33:56.560 it's no different

01:33:57.240 these are just

01:33:57.960 organizations

01:33:58.640 motivated by money

01:33:59.980 and they're going

01:34:01.260 to do what they

01:34:01.660 can to make

01:34:02.280 this money

01:34:02.680 and you said

01:34:04.040 in one of the

01:34:04.660 statements

01:34:05.040 that was red

01:34:07.560 you are family

01:34:09.180 now

01:34:09.980 right

01:34:11.280 what does that

01:34:12.340 mean to you

01:34:13.460 as an expert

01:34:14.080 in games

01:34:14.640 they're calling him

01:34:16.340 family

01:34:16.780 it means

01:34:17.660 he's

01:34:18.200 he's been

01:34:19.160 accepted as a

01:34:19.980 member

01:34:20.260 and

01:34:20.960 on top of that

01:34:23.160 the emails

01:34:24.840 show

01:34:25.380 that not only

01:34:26.620 was he brought

01:34:27.220 in as a member

01:34:28.420 as a foot soldier

01:34:29.680 you know

01:34:30.280 at the low level

01:34:31.220 he was then

01:34:31.780 bumped up

01:34:32.700 to the next

01:34:33.880 step

01:34:34.140 in the

01:34:34.780 G-Shang 1.00

01:34:35.100 line up

01:34:35.500 the G-Shang 1.00

01:34:37.180 ranking system

01:34:38.280 to the

01:34:38.820 Ascari level

01:34:39.400 so that's

01:34:40.040 one step

01:34:40.520 above

01:34:40.740 that means

01:34:41.160 he must

01:34:41.800 have

01:34:42.160 or he did

01:34:43.200 not must

01:34:43.680 have

01:34:43.840 he did

01:34:44.300 because

01:34:45.100 they're not

01:34:45.360 just going to

01:34:45.700 promote him

01:34:46.100 to Ascari

01:34:46.600 because that

01:34:47.180 would have

01:34:47.400 taken

01:34:47.780 approval

01:34:49.580 from the

01:34:49.960 top

01:34:50.180 right

01:34:50.780 some guy

01:34:51.280 at the

01:34:51.460 bottom

01:34:51.640 is not

01:34:51.900 going to be

01:34:52.120 a year

01:34:52.500 in Ascari

01:34:52.900 now

01:34:53.200 you can't

01:34:53.580 just start

01:34:53.860 getting out

01:34:54.240 ranks

01:34:54.580 you can't

01:34:54.980 get someone

01:34:55.380 staying

01:34:55.780 unless you're

01:34:57.000 the guy

01:34:57.260 that's handing

01:34:57.800 out that

01:34:58.160 he's

01:34:58.820 explaining gang

01:34:59.500 structure right

01:35:00.060 now

01:35:00.340 and gang

01:35:00.840 rankings

01:35:01.380 and gang

01:35:01.960 politics

01:35:02.520 which the

01:35:02.900 defense attorney

01:35:03.580 tried to

01:35:04.480 kind of

01:35:05.780 brush under

01:35:06.460 the rug

01:35:06.860 like why

01:35:07.460 is he

01:35:08.220 having

01:35:08.580 crip friends

01:35:09.140 if he's

01:35:09.460 of blood

01:35:09.740 so this

01:35:10.640 detective is

01:35:11.360 kind of

01:35:12.100 explaining this

01:35:12.900 and come on

01:35:13.580 man let's

01:35:13.840 keep it

01:35:14.060 honest we

01:35:14.420 know that

01:35:14.840 there's

01:35:15.040 bloods and

01:35:15.360 crips that 0.88

01:35:15.620 are friends

01:35:15.940 guys like

01:35:16.700 New York

01:35:16.980 City is a

01:35:17.300 perfect example

01:35:17.780 of this

01:35:18.040 there's

01:35:18.660 literally

01:35:19.120 the woo

01:35:19.840 just so y'all

01:35:20.720 know Pop

01:35:21.480 Smoke

01:35:21.900 right was

01:35:23.080 a was a

01:35:24.820 crip but

01:35:25.880 some of his

01:35:26.500 best friends

01:35:27.400 were bloods

01:35:28.500 why because

01:35:28.960 in New York

01:35:29.500 the bloods

01:35:30.180 in the

01:35:30.360 crip actually

01:35:31.040 fly together

01:35:31.760 under one

01:35:32.360 big umbrella

01:35:32.860 called the

01:35:33.460 woo so 0.51

01:35:34.340 it's not

01:35:35.840 uncommon to

01:35:36.400 have bloods

01:35:36.740 and crips

01:35:36.980 that rock

01:35:37.580 with each

01:35:37.860 other that

01:35:38.180 actually go

01:35:38.580 ahead and

01:35:38.880 attack other

01:35:39.500 blood and

01:35:40.300 crip sets

01:35:40.840 but in the

01:35:41.740 New York

01:35:42.120 situation in

01:35:42.760 Brooklyn in

01:35:43.100 specific it's

01:35:43.680 to form an

01:35:44.380 alliance against

01:35:44.900 the GDs but

01:35:45.940 you guys

01:35:46.500 understand the

01:35:47.020 picture it's

01:35:47.960 not the

01:35:48.340 typical bloods

01:35:49.280 always hate

01:35:49.840 crips no that's

01:35:50.500 not true in

01:35:50.960 some situations

01:35:51.560 they even work

01:35:52.320 together and

01:35:52.900 are under one

01:35:53.660 big umbrella

01:35:54.260 gang and the

01:35:55.280 woo could be an

01:35:55.700 example of that so

01:35:56.580 that's what the

01:35:56.960 detective is trying

01:35:57.500 to explain here that

01:35:58.140 allegiance has

01:35:59.500 based on city

01:36:00.080 individuals

01:36:01.200 circumstances etc

01:36:02.960 it's not as

01:36:03.860 binary as the

01:36:04.580 defense attorney

01:36:05.020 tried to make

01:36:05.780 it to alleviate

01:36:06.760 his client

01:36:07.480 melee of

01:36:08.080 responsibility

01:36:08.740 so he

01:36:11.080 obviously

01:36:11.500 was given

01:36:14.260 the thumbs

01:36:14.840 up to

01:36:15.300 at least

01:36:16.560 one step

01:36:17.260 okay

01:36:18.300 no further

01:36:19.400 questions

01:36:19.860 at the

01:36:20.160 center

01:36:20.360 thank you

01:36:22.220 this is

01:36:22.420 wooden six

01:36:22.900 shoes

01:36:23.280 thank you

01:36:24.520 sir you're

01:36:24.820 going to

01:36:24.940 step down

01:36:25.500 thank you

01:36:27.560 thank you

01:36:28.820 all right

01:36:31.080 looks like

01:36:31.520 the detective

01:36:32.040 is finally

01:36:32.760 done

01:36:33.240 testifying

01:36:34.080 and he's

01:36:34.840 been there

01:36:35.200 for a few

01:36:35.620 days guys

01:36:36.240 all right

01:36:44.820 so we're

01:36:45.020 going to

01:36:45.200 fast forward

01:36:45.820 see where

01:36:46.720 right now

01:36:47.280 i do

01:36:51.360 my name is

01:36:53.980 rafael

01:36:54.360 mcdougall

01:36:54.980 and

01:36:55.460 thank you

01:36:59.980 thank you

01:37:01.080 doctor we're

01:37:02.960 outside the

01:37:03.720 presence of the

01:37:04.200 jury but

01:37:04.680 defendant is

01:37:05.540 present

01:37:05.960 long

01:37:06.280 to the

01:37:06.580 attorney

01:37:06.900 we're

01:37:09.180 trying to

01:37:09.560 find out

01:37:10.200 is there

01:37:10.520 some photographs

01:37:12.640 that the

01:37:14.060 state

01:37:14.240 intends to

01:37:14.760 use

01:37:14.960 and I'm

01:37:16.000 trying to

01:37:16.300 find out

01:37:16.720 whether or

01:37:18.160 not

01:37:18.560 the photographs

01:37:20.040 that are in

01:37:20.460 question

01:37:20.880 basically you

01:37:23.400 need to

01:37:24.020 illustrate

01:37:25.340 or explain

01:37:26.560 your testimony

01:37:27.640 and

01:37:29.000 whether or not

01:37:31.440 there are

01:37:31.680 duplicates in

01:37:32.420 there

01:37:32.660 that you

01:37:33.840 don't

01:37:34.160 all right

01:37:35.520 here we

01:37:35.920 fucking go

01:37:36.580 guys what

01:37:37.860 you guys are

01:37:38.300 about a

01:37:38.600 witness right

01:37:39.140 now is

01:37:40.200 probably going

01:37:41.220 to be the

01:37:41.640 turning point

01:37:42.200 of this

01:37:42.560 trial the

01:37:43.500 woman that 0.97

01:37:43.900 they just

01:37:44.200 swore in

01:37:44.620 right do

01:37:45.000 you everything

01:37:45.400 you say is

01:37:45.900 going to be

01:37:46.140 the truth you

01:37:46.860 know nothing

01:37:47.140 but the truth

01:37:47.640 and to help

01:37:48.040 you God

01:37:48.300 blah blah blah

01:37:48.760 see that's

01:37:49.780 them putting

01:37:50.140 her under

01:37:50.540 oath I'm

01:37:51.280 almost certain

01:37:51.860 because they

01:37:52.180 said doctor

01:37:52.720 this is more

01:37:53.280 than likely

01:37:53.680 the medical

01:37:54.140 examiner

01:37:54.820 that's a

01:37:56.060 prosecution's

01:37:56.580 witness so

01:37:57.060 this lady is 1.00

01:37:58.460 going to be

01:37:58.960 very important

01:38:00.060 to this trial

01:38:01.660 okay

01:38:02.520 if I

01:38:04.840 think they're

01:38:05.620 going to do

01:38:06.060 what I think

01:38:06.560 they're going

01:38:06.900 to do

01:38:07.320 excuse me

01:38:08.040 if they're

01:38:08.600 going to do

01:38:08.860 what I think

01:38:09.220 they're going

01:38:09.440 to do

01:38:09.640 which they're

01:38:09.920 going to show

01:38:10.300 pictures here

01:38:10.960 they're probably

01:38:12.120 going to show

01:38:12.480 some pretty

01:38:12.940 graphic images

01:38:13.660 so viewer

01:38:14.800 discretion to

01:38:15.320 advise if they

01:38:15.840 do I'm going

01:38:16.360 to warn you

01:38:16.740 out for some

01:38:17.140 of you guys

01:38:17.400 out there that

01:38:17.880 might be

01:38:18.160 squeamish but

01:38:19.340 yeah this is

01:38:20.460 going to be a

01:38:21.060 very important

01:38:21.680 witness so the

01:38:22.340 detective is

01:38:22.820 officially done

01:38:23.620 now we're on

01:38:24.700 to the medical

01:38:25.160 examiner let's

01:38:26.280 go

01:38:26.560 that's why

01:38:35.780 she got that

01:38:36.240 face mask on

01:38:36.980 bro she

01:38:37.360 believes in

01:38:38.020 the scandemic

01:38:38.780 and also I

01:38:53.860 understand

01:38:54.200 some of the

01:38:56.460 pictures are

01:38:57.340 external and

01:38:59.400 some are

01:38:59.720 internal and

01:39:00.860 whether or not

01:39:02.120 you need all

01:39:02.760 the photographs

01:39:03.420 and to explain

01:39:05.400 or illustrate

01:39:05.960 your testimony

01:39:06.560 all right so

01:39:16.680 what they're

01:39:16.940 doing right now

01:39:17.400 guys is they're

01:39:17.920 kind of getting

01:39:18.400 the witness

01:39:18.800 prepared hey

01:39:20.020 these are the

01:39:21.220 pictures what

01:39:21.640 pictures are we

01:39:22.000 going to show

01:39:22.320 what pictures are

01:39:22.820 we not going to

01:39:23.280 show blah blah

01:39:23.780 blah she's a 1.00

01:39:24.420 prosecution's

01:39:24.940 witness so she's

01:39:25.480 going to go on

01:39:25.880 direct she's

01:39:26.900 looking at them

01:39:27.840 now so her

01:39:28.320 testimony hasn't

01:39:29.000 officially begun

01:39:29.820 but that's kind

01:39:30.660 of what's going

01:39:31.100 on here right

01:39:31.720 now oh shit

01:39:32.420 yeah I could

01:39:33.040 already see some

01:39:33.560 of the photos

01:39:33.900 here yeah so

01:39:35.100 and they're

01:39:35.660 probably going to

01:39:36.100 blow them up

01:39:36.700 as we go

01:39:37.780 through them

01:39:38.200 right so get

01:39:40.400 your popcorn

01:39:40.860 guys because

01:39:41.460 this is going

01:39:41.840 to be a very

01:39:42.400 important this

01:39:43.040 is going to be

01:39:43.540 a really important

01:39:44.340 witness in this

01:39:44.940 trial man I'm

01:39:45.540 glad that we

01:39:45.940 caught it from

01:39:46.340 the beginning

01:39:46.840 as she got

01:39:48.420 sworn in so

01:39:49.040 we ain't missing

01:39:49.520 shit right now

01:39:50.780 we got 1.4k y'all

01:40:01.580 watch it man you guys

01:40:04.380 got 1.4k y'all watch

01:40:17.860 it man you guys better

01:40:18.680 like this god damn

01:40:19.480 video because I

01:40:20.140 haven't slept in and

01:40:20.780 we're about to get

01:40:21.260 into one of the

01:40:21.720 most important

01:40:22.220 witnesses and y'all

01:40:23.040 are about to watch

01:40:23.600 this with Myron

01:40:24.080 Gaines former

01:40:24.560 special agent

01:40:25.100 homeland screen

01:40:25.640 investigations we

01:40:26.640 about to break

01:40:27.160 this thing all the

01:40:28.000 way fucking down

01:40:28.820 there's no one

01:40:29.880 better to be

01:40:30.360 watching this

01:40:30.800 trial with right

01:40:31.380 now so sit

01:40:32.320 back get your

01:40:33.320 fucking popcorn

01:40:34.080 open your mind

01:40:35.280 we're gonna go

01:40:36.080 through this thing

01:40:36.540 together like the

01:40:37.660 video let's hit

01:40:38.100 1400 get 100%

01:40:39.140 engagement so this

01:40:39.800 video gets pushed

01:40:40.380 in the algorithm and

01:40:40.960 more people can find

01:40:41.720 this shit versus all

01:40:42.740 the other losers that

01:40:43.760 don't have any

01:40:44.160 experience that are

01:40:44.680 live streaming this

01:40:45.260 trial right now let's

01:40:46.200 fucking get it baby

01:40:47.260 y'all getting this

01:40:50.800 content right now

01:40:51.480 with me having zero

01:40:52.460 sleep special episode

01:40:54.480 of fed reacts at

01:40:55.460 11 30 in the morning

01:40:56.500 this is normally I

01:40:57.020 want to go to sleep

01:40:57.520 ninjas

01:40:57.840 the court said

01:41:01.160 where photographs are

01:41:03.580 relevant the trial

01:41:04.540 court must determine

01:41:05.540 whether the

01:41:06.180 gruesomeness of the

01:41:08.060 betrayal is so

01:41:09.220 inflammatory as to

01:41:11.000 create an undue

01:41:12.220 prejudice in the

01:41:13.220 minds of the jurors

01:41:14.420 and distract them

01:41:17.300 from a fair and

01:41:18.360 impassioned

01:41:19.100 consideration of

01:41:20.300 evidence when less

01:41:22.600 graphic photos are

01:41:24.980 available to

01:41:25.820 illustrate the same

01:41:26.900 point the relevance

01:41:29.120 someone asks is

01:41:29.980 there an audience

01:41:30.480 behind them yes

01:41:31.360 guys the courtroom is

01:41:32.320 packed right now

01:41:33.180 the standard by no

01:41:35.420 mean constitutes a

01:41:36.920 card blanche for the

01:41:39.460 admission of the

01:41:40.340 gruesome photos

01:41:41.360 judge there's no

01:41:43.820 question that the

01:41:45.640 victims in this case

01:41:47.620 died of gunshot

01:41:48.980 wounds

01:41:49.440 primarily one gunshot

01:41:52.880 wound was fatal on

01:41:55.500 each one of the

01:41:58.140 alleged victims in

01:41:59.740 this case in fact this

01:42:01.760 doctor will testify

01:42:03.020 oh wait hold on is

01:42:05.780 the defense admit

01:42:06.520 because right now the

01:42:07.140 defense is talking guys

01:42:08.040 they're trying to not

01:42:09.020 get these gruesome

01:42:09.660 photos shown because

01:42:10.500 they don't want to

01:42:11.200 make the jury biased or

01:42:12.340 emotional which is you

01:42:13.640 know obviously they're

01:42:14.220 going to do that but I

01:42:15.720 don't know if y'all just

01:42:16.300 caught that the defense

01:42:17.320 just admitted that the

01:42:19.380 victims died from one

01:42:21.060 fatal shot each not from

01:42:24.640 the drive-by shooting

01:42:25.680 he might have just hug

01:42:28.880 himself right there I

01:42:29.660 don't know if y'all

01:42:29.980 caught that I'm half

01:42:31.180 asleep and I caught that

01:42:32.080 shit but if you guys

01:42:33.420 remember in this case

01:42:35.380 what did they allege they

01:42:37.540 were victims of a

01:42:38.340 drive-by shooting but

01:42:40.120 you know this medical

01:42:41.140 examiner is about to

01:42:42.020 fucking testify that

01:42:42.840 them shots came from 0.61

01:42:43.580 inside the car they got

01:42:45.140 shot in the fucking 0.92

01:42:45.960 head at close range here

01:42:48.080 we go you just conceded

01:42:49.800 that they did in fact

01:42:50.980 die from the fatal shots

01:42:52.560 and not the goddamn 0.53

01:42:53.480 drive-by and that's the

01:42:56.920 defense counsel but why

01:42:57.940 is he fighting so hard to

01:42:59.160 say this because he

01:43:00.220 doesn't want these

01:43:01.440 gruesome pictures to be

01:43:02.220 shown by the jury because

01:43:03.140 it might make them biased

01:43:06.240 towards his client

01:43:07.540 I believe that this is a

01:43:10.980 rather unusual case in

01:43:13.280 math she could determine

01:43:16.120 which shot occurred first

01:43:18.860 in both of the victims and

01:43:21.580 they were the fatal shot in

01:43:24.800 both of the victims therefore

01:43:26.860 the introduction of all

01:43:28.760 these other photographs are

01:43:30.800 irrelevant prejudicial and we

01:43:36.080 would object to them of course

01:43:38.320 you'll object to them because

01:43:39.220 they're going to make your

01:43:40.060 client look real bad when they

01:43:41.180 see all that blood

01:43:41.820 doctor my question i guess is uh the

01:43:44.560 photographs were presented to you uh they've been marked you how they've been marked

01:43:48.860 uh man yo the defense is shaking in their boots right they don't want those pictures in

01:43:53.740 guys they don't want the pictures in baby

01:43:57.560 uh so defense counsel has placed a statement on any that he is objecting to of the 28 that have been selected triple c for identification

01:44:07.080 all right so if you want to do them one at a time that's what i'd like to do is if you can show the photograph and uh may i approach you yes you may this photo

01:44:16.140 doctor you're not uh you're not uh concerned or intimidated if the attorney

01:44:19.800 of course not i'd rather than just give it here so

01:44:22.840 they're asking oh are you okay with them approaching you with that mask on lol come on man

01:44:27.480 just stay six feet away

01:44:32.200 that's fine

01:44:33.280 just stay six feet

01:44:34.300 oh my god

01:44:38.580 so this first picture of this thinking note actually is the face shot with heat number

01:44:46.960 that any case number that is unique to this case

01:44:50.200 so what this does is it shows that this number will be in every single photo

01:44:54.660 therefore i think it's needed

01:44:56.800 thank you and is there any duplicates of that photo showing the case number

01:45:01.140 every photo will have this case number

01:45:05.320 understood

01:45:05.920 but this is the face of the decedent that's how we identify him

01:45:10.080 and that's what this photo is for

01:45:12.280 thank you

01:45:13.320 so this next series of photographs are the clean hand photographs

01:45:20.420 okay so just so y'all know we just crossed 1500 live viewers

01:45:23.480 the judge the so here's the judge as y'all know obviously

01:45:28.080 um the defense counsel and the prosecutor what they're basically going over right now is what pictures are going to be shown to the jury

01:45:35.140 and they're kind of going through them right now here

01:45:37.960 and they're doing that because the defense does not want all these photos to be shown to the jury

01:45:43.660 because they fear that it's going to make uh it's going to be they said they said themselves it's going to be might be prejudicial

01:45:48.900 right but the medical examiner right she's prosecution witness she's saying i need to at least show the faces so that they can identify the deceased so this is going to be interesting

01:45:59.560 we take these photographs to document whether there are any injuries to the hands

01:46:04.780 you know were they in a scuff hole is there any hemorrhaging

01:46:07.920 contusions

01:46:09.520 if that's a line of questioning then i need these photos to show that

01:46:14.240 and so dr mccleby's a clean hand you can do explaining to his honor i can so

01:46:20.220 in the course of a suspicious case when we take photographs we do what's called overall photographs

01:46:30.140 initially so those are usually bloody hands right bloody defects bloody body when we clean them up

01:46:37.480 we take a second round of photographs that are clean photographs so these photographs are the clean photographs

01:46:44.480 i don't see any blood on any of these photographs

01:46:48.480 may i inquire as to how many photographs what you want the doctor to tell him sorry

01:46:54.480 yeah so these are the clean photographs of the hands

01:46:58.480 how many photographs of the two hands are in that file

01:47:10.480 so there's a front and back so there's one front one pole and a side

01:47:17.480 to show every you know every piece of each hand to show that there's no injuries

01:47:22.480 the question is how many photos in total of the hands are

01:47:26.480 so there are six photographs one at the polymer surface of each hand from the other surface of each hand

01:47:40.480 and one at the side of each hand

01:47:42.480 and there's no injuries on that on the hands

01:47:44.480 that's correct

01:47:45.480 we would object that it's duplicitous and it has no relevance

01:47:51.480 thank you that objection is overruled

01:47:53.480 no photographs or when you said clean photographs

01:47:57.480 there's no blood there's no bruisedness or anything like that

01:48:00.480 associated with those photographs counsel so

01:48:03.480 you get your notes overruled

01:48:05.480 did your own rule as to the face establishing

01:48:08.480 overruled

01:48:09.480 i understand the purpose of it

01:48:11.480 it's not a gruesome photograph

01:48:13.480 so these next two photographs are of the same wound

01:48:17.480 the difference is one is an orientation shot

01:48:21.480 which is this one

01:48:23.480 and then one is a close-up

01:48:24.480 if you show just the close-up so i can

01:48:27.480 talk about the characteristics of that wound

01:48:30.480 there's no way for me to show where it is on the body

01:48:33.480 just so y'all know the defense is going to do everything in their fucking power 0.90

01:48:39.480 to make sure the violent photos are not shown to the jury

01:48:43.480 that's why they're doing this

01:48:44.480 the defense is going to fight this tooth and nail guys 0.96

01:48:47.480 alright they better earn their money today

01:48:49.480 is that what you're suggesting doctor that you to show the orientation

01:48:53.480 as well as the close-up of the injury that you need those pictures to illustrate that

01:48:57.480 i do

01:48:59.480 thank you

01:49:01.480 what's next

01:49:03.480 so you know there's three

01:49:05.480 you can take one out

01:49:07.480 sure

01:49:08.480 at the end of the day the judge is going to you know

01:49:10.480 be the deciding uh fact

01:49:12.480 the last deciding official on what gets shown and what doesn't

01:49:15.480 but obviously he's overlooking it

01:49:17.480 trying to be fair to both parties here

01:49:21.480 he wants to be able to show enough evidence

01:49:23.480 that illustrates the crime

01:49:25.480 without necessarily

01:49:27.480 being unduly suggestive

01:49:31.480 there's a sticker on one in the left hand i believe

01:49:34.480 so i would argue you can take one of these out

01:49:36.480 because both of them i can see

01:49:39.480 we see the ear on the left hand side so

01:49:41.480 you're telling me you don't need both

01:49:43.480 no sir

01:49:44.480 so just eliminate

01:49:45.480 and in terms of the

01:49:47.480 scale or without

01:49:48.480 width

01:49:55.480 no stickers

01:49:56.480 no stickers

01:49:57.480 no stickers

01:49:58.480 no stickers

01:49:59.480 same argument on

01:50:01.480 here

01:50:02.480 two pictures of d

01:50:03.480 one is an orientation shot

01:50:05.480 so it shows you where on the body

01:50:07.480 this exit wound is

01:50:09.480 the second is a close-up

01:50:11.480 you can describe the characteristics of the wound

01:50:13.480 and are you telling me

01:50:15.480 doctor that you need both photographs through

01:50:17.480 uh

01:50:18.480 guys the reason the judge is standing is so

01:50:20.480 that he can over look look at the pictures

01:50:22.480 that's why

01:50:23.480 illustrate or explain your testimony

01:50:26.480 i would prefer both because you can tell in the close-up that this looks like a laceration which is consistent with an exit wound

01:50:33.480 i can explain it from this one but you can't really see it

01:50:37.480 you can't really see it

01:50:38.480 thank you

01:50:39.480 thank you

01:50:40.480 is the court allowing both of those photographs

01:50:44.480 she's saying she needs to explain the testimony

01:50:47.480 yes that's the way i understand it

01:50:48.480 i believe she said she could explain it on either one of the photographs

01:50:52.480 i can explain that it's a laceration on each one

01:50:56.480 in order for

01:50:58.480 everyone involved to be able to see the

01:51:01.480 why it's a laceration instead of

01:51:03.480 yeah that's laceration over there

01:51:05.480 i think they're needed

01:51:07.480 thank you

01:51:08.480 objection notes overall again

01:51:09.480 these photographs

01:51:10.480 show it in

01:51:11.480 depicted injury

01:51:12.480 externally

01:51:13.480 it's not an internal

01:51:15.480 i don't know that they're so gruesome as to

01:51:17.480 uh

01:51:18.480 uh

01:51:19.480 inflate the jury

01:51:20.480 something along these lines

01:51:24.480 i did uh

01:51:25.480 southern court and i was putting a sticker on all of the internal

01:51:29.480 insurance i believe

01:51:30.480 you're looking at right now

01:51:32.480 yes sir

01:51:33.480 and i'm standing at a distance from you because you are not in that 10-day grace period

01:51:37.480 i'm not

01:51:38.480 so i'm going to move a little further away

01:51:40.480 that's fine

01:51:41.480 so

01:51:42.480 normally

01:51:44.480 oh wow

01:51:45.480 normally judge i would say that internal photographs are not needed

01:51:49.480 the reason that these photographs are important in this particular case

01:51:54.480 is that the first shot which was for the back of the neck

01:51:58.480 when you look at

01:52:00.480 the under surface of the skin around that injury there's hemorrhage

01:52:04.480 which means i can tell you that he was alive when that shot was higher

01:52:10.480 the

01:52:11.480 second shot 0.91

01:52:12.480 ah

01:52:13.480 i think that's she's talking about sack chaser's one because i know the guy that was sitting

01:52:16.480 next to melee chris

01:52:17.480 light-skinned guy

01:52:18.480 he got shot in the cheek and it exited out of his brain

01:52:21.480 uh

01:52:22.480 so basically went in this way and then came out this way and then i think sack chaser got shot in the back of the neck and it came out the head

01:52:27.480 because keep in mind melee was in the back

01:52:30.480 behind the driver's seat passenger

01:52:32.480 so uh

01:52:33.480 sack chaser was in the front seat

01:52:34.480 front seat passenger

01:52:35.480 so he shot directly at him like this and then he shot chris who was directly to his right

01:52:39.480 so that makes sense

01:52:41.480 um

01:52:42.480 but yeah he has she has to show some of these gruesome photos to show that they were in fact alive when they got shot

01:52:46.480 third shot went to the shoulder the second shot that went through the heart and the left bone 0.97

01:52:51.480 the organs proved

01:52:53.480 that there was no heartbeat when those shots were inflicted

01:52:57.480 so if

01:52:58.480 we are

01:52:59.480 ah now she's talking about them drive-by shootings

01:53:01.480 the fence is shaking in their boots

01:53:02.480 long crap network

01:53:03.480 what y'all niggas gotta say now baby 1.00

01:53:05.480 what y'all gotta say now

01:53:07.480 whoa

01:53:08.480 Melly's gonna

01:53:09.480 Melly's gonna beat this case blah blah blah 1.00

01:53:10.480 and here's the thing guys

01:53:11.480 i like Melly

01:53:13.480 i like his music

01:53:14.480 I think he's musically talented and a fucking musical genius

01:53:17.480 however

01:53:18.480 when you look at the facts

01:53:20.480 it's

01:53:21.480 damn near irrefutable guys that he committed this crime

01:53:24.480 and y'all are gonna see right now with the medical examiner

01:53:26.480 that's why the defense is doing

01:53:28.480 they're they're trying to

01:53:29.480 ah

01:53:30.480 let's not show these pictures blah blah blah

01:53:31.480 they're trying to fight it

01:53:33.480 if anybody is trying to say that

01:53:37.480 one shot came

01:53:39.480 by the way there's only 1.2k likes

01:53:41.480 we got 1500 plus y'all in here

01:53:42.480 so like the goddamn video 0.75

01:53:43.480 we're about to be at 1600

01:53:44.480 so like it

01:53:45.480 god damn it

01:53:46.480 let's hit 1.5k

01:53:47.480 let's just go 100% engagement

01:53:48.480 so i'm gonna keep asking

01:53:49.480 i really appreciate it

01:53:50.480 because the more you like it guys

01:53:51.480 the more this gets pushed in the algo to other people

01:53:53.480 to see

01:53:54.480 and we're probably gonna get demonetized today boyos

01:53:56.480 because they about to show some violence today

01:53:58.480 and it is what it is

01:53:59.480 alright

01:54:00.480 i'm gonna show it to y'all

01:54:01.480 so we're gonna get demonetized too

01:54:03.480 so at least you could do

01:54:04.480 like this joint

01:54:06.480 when that shot

01:54:08.480 was shot

01:54:09.480 and the other two

01:54:11.480 were after he passed away sometime later

01:54:14.480 the only way to show that with the photos

01:54:17.480 is to show you that in the lung

01:54:19.480 in the heart

01:54:20.480 where the projectile from the shoulder was retrieved

01:54:23.480 that there's absolutely no hemorrhage around

01:54:26.480 any of those organs or wounds

01:54:30.480 can you do it with just the lung picture

01:54:34.480 you know do you need every single one of them

01:54:36.480 i mean the heart

01:54:37.480 absolutely no hemorrhage

01:54:39.480 your heart's got all the bloods right there

01:54:41.480 if you're alive and it's beating

01:54:42.480 it's gonna bleed

01:54:45.480 so

01:54:46.480 thanks i'm sorry

01:54:47.480 may i your honor

01:54:48.480 sure i'm trying to understand doctor

01:54:51.480 whether or not you need these pictures

01:54:53.480 to illustrate the testimony

01:54:55.480 if i want to show you that there's hemorrhage here

01:55:00.480 and he was alive and that's why there's hemorrhage

01:55:03.480 and there's nothing on this lung

01:55:05.480 so he's dead when that shot's fired

01:55:07.480 then i need these photographs

01:55:10.480 can we parse it down to half of them

01:55:14.480 i mean you know you want to show that there's no hemorrhage in the heart

01:55:18.480 the pathway of that bullet

01:55:20.480 is the same projectile

01:55:23.480 you know you could show one

01:55:25.480 so would you

01:55:26.480 would be

01:55:28.480 perhaps the lung

01:55:30.480 i think

01:55:31.480 this doctor don't give a fuck she want to show everything guys 1.00

01:55:34.480 i think the lung is probably the best photo of all of them because there's no hemorrhage there

01:55:40.480 i think you need the one that shows that there was a beating heart when the bullet went through the head

01:55:45.480 and at least one

01:55:47.480 and at least one

01:55:49.480 i would part i don't argue right i would suggest whatever the right word is

01:55:54.480 this photograph is the projectile from the right back

01:55:58.480 no hemorrhage around it where we get it out

01:56:01.480 so that's the third shot

01:56:02.480 so one of these and one of the second shot

01:56:05.480 and one of the first shot to show the difference in this is a beating heart these are not

01:56:11.480 if that's something that needs to be shown the photographs and how i came to that decision i'm done

01:56:21.480 we are not contesting that the first shot was the fatal shot

01:56:26.480 uh the other two shots which he is referring to are from the internal examination to verify that we're not contesting that at all

01:56:38.480 those are very gruesome photographs have nothing to do with because the victim uh in this group is dead all right

01:56:49.480 so unless we're contesting that

01:56:54.480 there's no reason other than to prejudice this jury of the gruesomeness of this autopsy

01:57:01.480 so going back to those photographs

01:57:04.480 to illustrate and explain your testimony

01:57:07.480 uh my question is

01:57:09.480 all of these these are some of them

01:57:11.480 these are the photographs that i look at

01:57:14.480 that are are somewhat gruesome

01:57:17.480 and so my thought is

01:57:19.480 uh if there's a way you can pare down

01:57:21.480 uh those photographs

01:57:22.480 show the uh what you're trying to get across

01:57:25.480 that you know which shot was a fatal shot

01:57:27.480 and how to establish that

01:57:29.480 i don't have a problem with that

01:57:30.480 in fact i'd appreciate that

01:57:32.480 but my thought is uh really

01:57:34.480 you're the witness

01:57:35.480 you know what you need to explain your testimony

01:57:37.480 uh and so i need to know that

01:57:40.480 so your honor is it's not about which shot is the fatal shot i mean we have people shot 20 times whatever all the time

01:57:47.480 if it's

01:57:54.480 yo the fact that they've been going back and forth for this long on these pictures tells me that these photos are really bad guys like really bad

01:58:02.480 you know all at the same time around the same time within you know a minute two minutes five minutes every single one of those gunshots is going to have hemorrhage

01:58:09.480 okay so it's not that he shot in the head his heart stops immediately and you know the other two shots come within seconds and those have no hemorrhage

01:58:20.480 i can't tell you what the time frame is between the head shot and the other shots but it's a significant amount of time so that he's passed away there's no circulation then these shots come

01:58:35.480 so it's not ten shots the first shot was to the head so it killed him and the other nine were a minute later and none of those had hemorrhage

01:58:45.480 so that's why this is unique and that we can say which the first shot is so i think you can take some of these out but if the line of questioning is going to be

01:59:00.480 and i don't know what it is right but if it's going to be

01:59:03.480 was it you know seconds later that the second third shot came or was it minutes later you have to be able to show that there's no hemorrhage

01:59:14.480 i just ask a question of dr regard in those photographs that the internal photographs

01:59:19.480 correct they're all internal yes sir and uh any of those are duplications

01:59:25.480 they're not they're not duplications in pictures but i can show it with less photographs

01:59:32.480 because it's a sanguine pattern that's fine so if you can show it with and play it with less photographs

01:59:37.480 that's what i would appreciate may i inquire one other question your honor sure you can't tell

01:59:45.480 if it was seconds or minutes later correct it's not seconds how do you know that because i've done

01:59:54.480 hundreds of gunshot wound cases where they're shot multiple times and they all have hemorrhage

01:59:59.480 in those cases you have not been able to determine which is the first shot second shot and third shot

02:00:14.480 correct that's correct okay so in other words this is an unusual case wherein you can tell what the first shot is

02:00:25.480 and in fact i think you testified this is like one in a million let's say three they have three okay

02:00:31.480 in 12 13 years okay where i can tell which shot came first because the dramatic difference in the

02:00:39.480 characteristics of the first gunshot wound and the second and third it's not seconds hey it's some time but i

02:00:47.480 i can't tell you what that time is it could be 10 seconds 55 minutes could be five minutes

02:00:55.480 could be 30 minutes and it also could be less than a minute i don't know that i say less than a minute

02:01:01.480 and what are you basing that on excuse me counselor i'm this is i assume you proposed her a long time ago

02:01:09.480 you deposed this witness correct yes all right so this we're talking about photographs not about the other issue

02:01:15.480 my uh job here is to yo i mean i ain't gonna lie i'm gonna give it to the defensive attorney for trying

02:01:21.480 like he's trying to bro he's really trying hard to not get these pictures in and what he's basically

02:01:27.480 trying to argue is like okay well how do you know the difference between the shots that were fatal

02:01:31.480 versus the shots that came after in the drive-through was it 10 minutes seconds later blah blah blah

02:01:35.480 doctor's like come on bro i know that the fatal shot happened and then a significant amount of time

02:01:41.480 passed then these other shots came in and i need to show the i need to show all the pictures so i can

02:01:47.480 show y'all what a deadly gunshot wound looks like and then what a gunshot wound postmortem looks like

02:01:53.480 that's what she's trying to argue but the defense is trying to say well how do you know like what's

02:01:57.480 the difference in between so again nice try by defense counsel but for me listening to this argument in my

02:02:05.480 professional experience she's gonna have to show both sets to show you guys the drastic difference

02:02:11.480 between a gunshot wound when you're alive versus one when you're dead and the reason why she has to

02:02:17.480 do this is because remember meli and portland's story is they got hit in a drive-by shooting

02:02:23.480 you know at a certain time but the wounds don't match that so she's gonna have to show both it's coming

02:02:29.480 gonna have to show both but let's see what happens i could be wrong uh however uh you know we're trying

02:02:47.480 to limit those uh i don't think it's so prejudicial or so gruesome uh as to uh create any type of

02:02:55.480 prejudice in the mind of the the autopsy photographs trying to explain the uh

02:03:03.480 so in any event doctor if you could uh satisfy which one you need for your testimony and which one you can

02:03:11.480 i can i mean the trains can come up here as well these are three different well these are all the

02:03:17.480 same shot so this is probably the it's a bone that's the one you want and so to show okay and so it's

02:03:29.480 clear for the record that his opponent alum has been removed from the body and it's not encased in the

02:03:34.480 knee sort of you know hey shots you untouchable i mean i'm gonna keep it a thousand with y'all i love

02:03:39.480 academics but yeah and no one's gonna come close to breaking this case down and this trial down

02:03:45.240 to the same molecular level that i'm about to do for y'all so like the goddamn video so um yeah 0.73

02:03:52.040 shout out to academics but we the best over here at fed reacts god damn it

02:04:01.480 ribs you don't see blood you don't see other fatty tissue

02:04:04.040 so in terms of the lung shots and the heart shot are those from the same wound path correct so all

02:04:15.880 of these four photographs are from the same wound path so one of this this is gunshot wound three

02:04:22.600 This is gunshot wound one, and this is gunshot wound two.

02:04:26.600 Okay, so you would be fine taking out these three.

02:04:29.600 The heart with the trajectory rod through it.

02:04:32.600 The photo of the ribbed post from the one that's thrown in.

02:04:36.600 And the photo of the long still in place.

02:04:38.600 That's the heart of our head.

02:04:40.600 Yep, that's what I heard about.

02:04:42.600 It might be all, actually it's the heart end.

02:04:45.600 So those three would take out?

02:04:47.600 Okay.

02:04:48.600 You just need the other three to explain the differences.

02:04:53.600 Correct.

02:04:58.600 Alright, so those photographs that have been excluded, how many in number are there?

02:05:05.600 They've been excluded.

02:05:07.600 One, two, three, four, five.

02:05:13.600 So that brings down to 23 photographs.

02:05:16.600 Thank you.

02:05:17.600 Dr. Oakley, 23 photos that remain here indicating.

02:05:21.600 Do you need those photographs to explain your illustration testimony?

02:05:26.600 Is that correct?

02:05:27.600 That's correct.

02:05:28.600 Thank you.

02:05:29.600 Alright, so you ready to start again?

02:05:34.600 Yes, and we just need to update the digital version of that.

02:05:37.600 Alright, looks like if I heard that correctly, they've whittled it down to 23 photos.

02:05:42.600 Yep.

02:05:43.600 And so the record is clear, Your Honor.

02:05:47.600 May I have a standing objection to those photographs that I objected to?

02:05:53.600 Sure.

02:05:54.600 Can you identify for the record?

02:05:56.600 Let's just be clear which ones they are.

02:05:59.600 Does the State have any objection to a standing objection?

02:06:01.600 No, Your Honor.

02:06:02.600 So there's no objection to the standing objection.

02:06:05.600 But I just like that somehow those ones with the yellow tab that essentially rejected to be noted.

02:06:11.600 Sure.

02:06:12.600 Okay.

02:06:13.600 Yes.

02:06:15.600 Yes.

02:06:16.600 That's a good idea of number again, and I can refer to them by the number, so there's a question on the map.

02:06:25.600 On the side note, can I suggest we let the jury start that much before we do this?

02:06:32.600 This is 10 to 12.

02:06:35.600 Thank you.

02:06:36.600 Thank you.

02:06:37.600 Madam State, you're with us.

02:06:38.600 Do you want to do it?

02:06:39.600 I know that the juries will be able to see and that the prosecution will be able to use.

02:06:52.600 And then...

02:06:53.600 Alright guys, now we got it going live again.

02:06:55.600 It looks like they took a short recess with why these guys are commentating.

02:06:58.600 ...pictures.

02:06:59.600 And so right now they're just going over which pictures the court is allowing for the medical examiner to be able to testify to.

02:07:09.600 And Bob, how important is this witness going to be?

02:07:12.600 Well, she's going to say that it was a murder and she's going to say how the murder happened.

02:07:18.600 And how it happened may ultimately be what's going to lay a foundation for the other link up evidence connecting the defendants to that.

02:07:27.600 And I think that's why she's going to be a critical witness in this regard.

02:07:30.600 And Bridget, wait about 30 seconds. 1.00

02:07:32.600 If there's any determination that the shots came from inside the car, that's bad for the defendant.

02:07:37.600 It definitely is bad for the defendant.

02:07:40.600 I can't even stress that enough.

02:07:42.600 Yes, it is.

02:07:43.600 So let me just follow up with that, Bridget.

02:07:45.600 If she comes back and says that the evidence looks like the shots came from that trajectory, from the back part of the car, how would the prosecution fight against that?

02:07:55.600 Excuse me, how would the defense fight against that?

02:07:59.600 Yeah, if they did, I would say that the defense counsel would have to go and talk more about, you know, if there were other shots that were fired from coming outside of the vehicle.

02:08:11.600 And if they can also talk about the fact that Millie was sitting there, but we don't know how real quick and a little snack here, guys.

02:08:20.600 The Gorilla Mind protein bar, of course, the peanut butter flavor because I'm sitting in Chris's sheet seats.

02:08:26.600 So hopefully I won't stutter as much as him when I eat this peanut butter.

02:08:29.600 How long he was sitting in the vehicle in that position.

02:08:32.600 And so we don't know when he left or, you know, at all.

02:08:35.600 So both sides muddying the water.

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02:08:44.600 There's a little bit.

02:08:45.600 Bridget, Bob, really appreciate you both.

02:08:48.600 Your perspective has been excellent.

02:08:49.600 I'm going to be signing off.

02:08:50.600 You're in great hands.

02:08:51.600 And Jeanette Levy's up next with our live Q&A show.

02:08:54.600 We'll be back.

02:09:00.600 All right.

02:09:01.600 Let's do the chats while we wait for that.

02:09:03.600 I see three chats here.

02:09:04.600 Guys, if you want to get your question, ask it right now.

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02:09:13.600 The last night's Monday show.

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02:09:15.600 Keep doing your thing, bro.

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02:09:24.600 Tello.

02:09:25.600 That is definitely Gunna on the stand. 1.00

02:09:26.600 Also, free tape.

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02:09:32.600 And then them, boy, CI.

02:09:34.600 We are very happy indeed.

02:09:35.600 Makes it easier.

02:09:37.600 Of course.

02:09:38.600 All right.

02:09:39.600 Let's get back to it.

02:09:44.600 All right.

02:09:45.600 Looks like they're on a break right now.

02:09:47.600 I don't know how long the break is going to be, but let's see here.

02:09:53.600 I'll go ahead and answer some of y'all questions that you guys have.

02:09:56.600 If you guys got questions, go ahead and send them in.

02:09:58.600 And I'll go ahead and answer them.

02:10:01.600 But, you know, I think this is a good time for a recap.

02:10:03.600 So, let's get in and recap what's went down so far.

02:10:10.600 Okay.

02:10:12.600 Number one, do me a favor, Ninjas.

02:10:13.600 Like the video.

02:10:14.600 We got 1.4K likes, but 1,600 plus y'all in here.

02:10:19.600 Still haven't slept yet.

02:10:20.600 Shout out to insomnia.

02:10:22.600 But the first thing that came on, guys, was the undercover detective from Bexar County Sheriff's Office.

02:10:29.600 He wore a mask the first time he testified.

02:10:32.600 He's been testifying for a few days now.

02:10:34.600 And the reason why he testified with a mask on for the first day and the reason why the camera doesn't show his face is because he has a $50,000 hit on him by a gang because, you know, he operated as an undercover in these gang investigations and probably put a bunch of people in jail and they wound up dead now.

02:10:50.600 But he's a subject matter expert in gang culture, especially the G-Shine Bloods, which Melly is an alleged member of.

02:10:58.600 Now, you're probably wondering, why the fuck does this matter, Meyer?

02:11:00.600 The reason why it matters is because for the state to get the death penalty on Melly, they need to prove that he was a gang member.

02:11:06.600 Okay.

02:11:07.600 It's very important for them to be able to prove that.

02:11:09.600 So what they did was they spent quite a bit of time with the subject matter expert going through Melly's text messages with other known gang members.

02:11:16.600 Okay.

02:11:17.600 Gino and Herc, to be exact, showing Melly communicating with these individuals and using current gang vernacular, blah, blah, blah, blah.

02:11:24.600 The defense on cross-examination asked the detective, hey, well, are you sure that my member is a gang?

02:11:31.600 Because there was also text messages in there that were fairly dismissive, whether it was Melly not responding to them or gang members saying, we don't know you like that, blah, blah, blah.

02:11:37.600 The defense did a fairly good job of creating some doubt as to Melly's gang standing.

02:11:42.600 Now, my professional opinion on that entire situation, we've seen in other cases that you don't necessarily have to be identified as a full-fledged gang member to be charged with gang racketeering laws.

02:11:55.600 Example A, Daniel Hernandez, a.k.a. Tekashi69, as y'all know, back in 2018, he got arrested by Homeland Security Investigations, HSI, my former agency.

02:12:04.600 It was our New York office that picked him up.

02:12:06.600 For Rico, and he was never a full-fledged blood.

02:12:10.600 He admits this. Other members of the gang admit this.

02:12:12.600 He was just merely an associate that had them around them for protection and he funded them.

02:12:16.600 But he still suffered the same consequences as other gang members, even though he wasn't necessarily.

02:12:23.600 And what I mean by same consequences, he was still charged under the same exact statutes.

02:12:27.600 The reason why he didn't get the time is because he cooperated.

02:12:29.600 But had he not cooperated, he would have got the same amount of time as all the other gang members.

02:12:33.600 Why do I say this?

02:12:34.600 The point is, I'm going into the weeds here.

02:12:36.600 Oh, here we go.

02:12:38.600 But the reason why I say this is to let y'all know that you don't have to be a full-fledged gang member to get charged racketeering laws.

02:12:44.600 Okay, that's number one.

02:12:46.600 Associates could get it just too.

02:12:47.600 It doesn't matter.

02:12:49.600 Now, after he testified, and then the prosecutor brought him on direct and, you know, answered, like clarified some of the things that the defense tried to kind of muddy in the water.

02:13:01.600 After he testified, the medical examiner came in and was just sworn in.

02:13:04.600 She's going to be probably the most important witness in this case.

02:13:10.600 And then what they did, since they know that she's so important, she's going to be pivotal.

02:13:15.600 The defense is fighting to keep some of them goddamn photos out of the trial because they don't want them to impact the jury on an emotional level and be prejudicial towards Melly.

02:13:26.600 So that's what we just went through.

02:13:28.600 It looks like she's going to get ready to testify here after the lunch break, but they pretty much agreed on 23 photos.

02:13:33.600 So there you go, my friends.

02:13:34.600 That is the summary.

02:13:39.600 Like the video, let's get back to what's going on here on Law & Crime Network.

02:13:45.600 I'm Anjanette Levy, and thanks for being with us this noon on Law & Crime.

02:13:56.600 And we are taking your questions this hour in the double murder trial.

02:13:59.600 Shout out to Leo Runs, two bucks, myron gains a goat.

02:14:02.600 I'm Anjanette Levy, the South Florida rapper accused of murdering two of his friends, two of his lifelong friends, Chris Thomas Jr. and Anthony Williams.

02:14:11.600 They went by YNW Juvie and YNW Sack Chaser.

02:14:15.600 Melly, as we have been telling you over the last couple of weeks, faces the possibility of the death penalty if convicted of the October 26, 2018 double homicides.

02:14:25.600 And Melly faces the possibility of the death penalty under a lower threshold, recently signed into law by Governor Ron DeSantis in Florida.

02:14:34.600 So the jury say they convicted him of double murder.

02:14:37.600 For him to get a death sentence, they'd only have to be eight to four.

02:14:40.600 That would have to be the minimum split rather than 12 to zero, the unanimous decision that was previously required under the law.

02:14:48.600 As I mentioned, we're taking your questions this lunch hour, as we always do.

02:14:51.600 So keep them coming to us on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and TikTok.

02:14:56.600 And we'll get to as many of them as we can during the lunch hour.

02:15:00.600 We have a great panel here today.

02:15:02.600 Terry Austin of Law & Crime is down at the Broward County Courthouse covering the trial for us.

02:15:07.600 Bob Bianchi is a former prosecutor, currently a defense attorney and a host here at Law & Crime.

02:15:12.600 And Mina Lola is here with us.

02:15:15.600 She is a host at SiriusXM and basically a Melly expert, if you will.

02:15:20.600 But Terry, let's start off with you.

02:15:22.600 What's been going on in the courtroom this morning that's really stood out to you?

02:15:27.600 So we started out this morning with Danny Polo back on that stand without his mask.

02:15:31.600 And what the prosecution was trying to do actually is to show that at the end of the day, when she did a redirect,

02:15:39.600 that he is basing his information, his conclusions on everything, not just one thing, not just a photo or a video that Melly might have been in.

02:15:49.600 What defense is trying to do is to say, look, you're jumping to these conclusions.

02:15:53.600 You're speculating.

02:15:54.600 There's nothing here that says he was a gang member.

02:15:57.600 Basically, you have gang members who are chasing him.

02:16:00.600 He's not chasing them.

02:16:01.600 So that was the end of, I think, that testimony.

02:16:04.600 And I think that's what the jury came away with.

02:16:07.600 We also know that that ended this morning and we are about to see clear gang signs throwing up the bees.

02:16:14.600 Rebecca McDougal.

02:16:15.600 She is a doctor.

02:16:16.600 She is going to come on to the stand.

02:16:18.600 She's going to go through the autopsy photos.

02:16:20.600 We started out with 138 photos that was narrowed down to 28.

02:16:25.600 And now there are 23.

02:16:26.600 The judge wanted to make sure we kept out any photos that were too gruesome for that jury to take a look at.

02:16:33.600 So after lunch, we're going to see the doctor.

02:16:35.600 23 out of 28.

02:16:37.600 Holy.

02:16:38.600 And this is going to be a really important witness state, Terry, because we've brought this up really a couple of times recently that the ME, according to the state, according to the prosecutor, is going to testify that the fatal shots to both Juvie and Sack Chaser came from within that vehicle, from the backseat, not from the outside of the vehicle.

02:17:00.600 And so that's some pretty critical testimony to the state's case.

02:17:04.600 Yes.

02:17:05.600 And not only that, she says this is the rare case.

02:17:09.600 And we did this outside of the presence of the jury, a little voir dire of what her testimony was going to be, basically, to go through those photos.

02:17:18.600 But she said that it's the first time after, you know, many, many years, only a few times has she ever been able to tell what is the first shot.

02:17:27.600 And she said she could do that because of the way the bullet went in.

02:17:32.600 And apparently, if it goes in, you have some coagulation and you can tell that the person is still alive.

02:17:38.600 But if the bullet goes in and the person is not alive, it doesn't have that sort of gathering of the blood.

02:17:45.600 And so she said she could tell where the first fatal shot came.

02:17:50.600 And then sometime later, the other bullets came into the bodies of Anthony Williams and Christopher Thomas.

02:17:57.600 A very interesting testimony, but very difficult testimony, we know, for the families of Juvie and Sack Chaser to hear.

02:18:05.600 It's just absolutely awful kind of listening to how they died.

02:18:10.600 So let's get to your questions now.

02:18:12.600 We've got a lot of great ones coming in.

02:18:14.600 So keep them coming.

02:18:15.600 This question will come to you first, Bob.

02:18:18.600 I really think this is a great question for you.

02:18:20.600 It comes from Radagast2887 on YouTube.

02:18:24.600 Radagast asks, could this case be used as a RICO case into the larger gang network?

02:18:31.600 And I think that's a pretty interesting question given this whole thing about the bloods and the G Shine blood set.

02:18:37.600 This is a good question.

02:18:38.600 I'll answer this. I want to see what their answers are and they'll clarify if anything's wrong.

02:18:42.600 That we've heard about in text messages and things like that.

02:18:45.600 Yeah, the answer to that is yes.

02:18:47.600 And gang cases have been prosecuted under RICO.

02:18:50.600 The reason why I don't think it's going to happen here is they're already going forward with the trial.

02:18:55.600 Typically speaking, prosecutors are going to want to move up a ladder and a chain of command in order to get to the RICO case.

02:19:02.600 Right now, these people are on trial or he's on trial.

02:19:05.600 So they're losing a main witness with respect to that.

02:19:08.600 And that person that does no longer has the right to Fifth Amendment immunity, which typically prosecutors would give under those circumstances in order to build a RICO case.

02:19:17.600 But we had prosecuted cases as RICO cases.

02:19:20.600 Not that it can happen in the future, but it wouldn't be surprising to me that they made that offer prior to this trial and he refused to cooperate.

02:19:29.600 So the quality of the RICO case is only as good as the witnesses you can put on.

02:19:34.600 But what about information gleaned maybe from the cell phones and stuff like that?

02:19:38.600 Would you pass that on to maybe the feds or somebody like that?

02:19:41.600 Yeah, I mean, the state is capable of bringing its own RICO charges.

02:19:44.600 And if the state doesn't feel it's got the qualitative nature of the evidence to go forward, I could tell you from having been a prosecutor working with the feds,

02:19:52.600 they're not going to be interested in taking a case on that the state itself felt, if it's true, that there wasn't enough proof beyond the reasonable doubt.

02:19:59.600 The feds typically like to be involved in cases that are absolutely airtight and when there can't be any possibility, at least in their minds, of a not guilty verdict.

02:20:08.600 So when I've had really good cases and I brought RICO and I had all the evidence, we would get a phone call from the feds to say, hey, maybe you want to consider giving it to us so that we could try it with a more draconian penalties.

02:20:20.600 And of course, you could try your case afterwards.

02:20:22.600 That not happening here makes me suspect because every witness that goes on and everything that happens in this trial could affect the outcome of a federal RICO charge.

02:20:32.600 So I don't see it. Interesting. Let's go on to all right.

02:20:37.600 He's incorrect there and I'll tell you why to say he's a correct about some things and incorrect about other things.

02:20:41.600 He's clearly a prosecutor at the state level based on what he just said.

02:20:44.600 Now, the thing is, let's say they do an investigation into gang members, right, that Melly is communicating with.

02:20:51.600 They can absolutely use those messages that they had with Melly to build a racketeering case.

02:20:58.600 And if they do establish that he did these killings right to increase his stature with the gang or whatever, these murders and these communications that these individuals had with Melly can all be wrapped up later down the road in an overall gang conspiracy.

02:21:14.600 So I see what he's saying. He's speaking about can they use these particular text messages in this particular case for a RICO case.

02:21:25.600 The answer to that is no in that in that small aspect.

02:21:31.600 But from a former federal investigator standpoint, I can absolutely use those messages in a larger scale investigation where I'm establishing who members are, hierarchies, individual statuses and roles in the in the organization.

02:21:47.600 It's very obvious here that Melly is a financer slash potential member, lower level, lower mid level guy that uses the gang for protection, credibility, etc.

02:21:59.600 So I can absolutely use that to illustrate the depth of the gang, the tentacles of the gang, the strength of the gang, the financial capability of the gang, the reach of the gang.

02:22:10.800 So I can absolutely use this evidence to build a separate RICO case on other individuals that Melly may have communicated or been in contact with.

02:22:21.920 OK, and that's the difference between the feds and the state. You just basically heard a state prosecutor talk.

02:22:25.860 I'm telling you how the feds actually do investigations. OK, so you can use that stuff to build a larger level case. Absolutely.

02:22:33.200 And that's why I disagree with him. Everything else he said, though, is correct. But let's get back to it.

02:22:37.300 Yo, like the goddamn video, bro. Y'all ain't going to get sauce like this anywhere else on the fucking Internet.

02:22:42.980 Shade room ain't going to tell y'all this. Fucking CNN, Fox News, even Law and Crime Network ain't going to give y'all some of the sauce I'm giving you guys.

02:22:50.080 I've actually done racketeering gang cases as the case agent.

02:22:57.080 So this is. Yeah, this is this is my lane.

02:23:02.460 There's some other questions. Excuse underscore my underscore beauty underscore TT from Instagram.

02:23:09.840 Mina, why does Melly have to get the death penalty instead of prison?

02:23:16.080 So. Of course, a female would ask a stupid question like this, but stupid. 1.00

02:23:21.580 Carry on. The death penalty is just an option if he's convicted.

02:23:25.540 It doesn't mean he has to get it.

02:23:27.300 Right. Well, the change in the laws in the state is why this is even on the table.

02:23:33.480 Now, obviously, there has to be certain criteria to make this a death penalty case.

02:23:38.100 And it seems like the people involved feel like there is enough criteria to make this a death penalty case.

02:23:45.160 What I will say is with death penalty, it has to be beyond a reasonable doubt.

02:23:49.060 So the evidence has to be there.

02:23:51.160 So and then it's scary now with the death penalty, because before, as we've talked about, it used to have to be unanimous in the state of Florida.

02:23:59.180 Now, the threshold has been lowered and it's now eight people that have to.

02:24:04.080 Just see, I know this is one of the girls that's been kind of roasting the prosecution saying like they don't have any evidence.

02:24:09.780 So I want to see what her tune is going to be after this medical examiner testifies. 0.58

02:24:14.160 If Mellie does, in fact, get the death penalty, if he gets found guilty.

02:24:20.620 So it's definitely scary to think about that.

02:24:23.760 And I'm I'm hoping that the evidence that is presented is airtight so that if this is even on the table, they are a thousand percent sure.

02:24:34.140 And the evidence shows that he did, in fact, commit this murder and then they will evaluate if the death penalty will be applied here in the penalty phase.

02:24:46.220 But I'm worried about this and I'm hoping that the evidence shows if we do get to that point.

02:24:51.180 Our next question is going to you, Terry, at Joe Mama asks from YouTube, did Mellie open up or respond to any other text during that 20 day period?

02:25:03.820 If he didn't, could it cast doubt that it's his phone?

02:25:09.040 Well, there's a lot of doubt, Anjanette, that that is his phone or rather that he's using the phone.

02:25:15.000 We know the phone is registered in his mother's name.

02:25:17.180 We know that he has not been in possession of the phone the entire time.

02:25:21.480 We know that other members of the gang, actually, we talked about Kirk.

02:25:26.300 We talked about, you know, Goon.

02:25:27.900 We talked about various other members who are trying to attract Mellie into the gang and Mellie's not responding.

02:25:34.400 And we definitely know that there are times after the incident occurred where he didn't have possession of the phone.

02:25:40.220 So the question is really whether or not you can attribute some of those messages to Mellie.

02:25:47.180 When he was not holding the phone, I do think that the defense established fairly well which of those messages came from Mellie.

02:25:56.340 And most of the messages he was not responding.

02:25:59.980 And it actually came out on the stand through Polo, who said Danny Polo, obviously, is the undercover agent, that he didn't want to mention it.

02:26:07.900 But some of the time.

02:26:09.060 Undercover detective.

02:26:10.340 And we know that he didn't have access to.

02:26:13.380 Pet peeve of mine when they call state investigators, deputies, agents.

02:26:17.440 No, he's a Broward County Sheriff's Office deputy, more than likely a detective, that works undercover.

02:26:26.820 His phone, because the phone was taken away from him.

02:26:30.020 And you can make the implication from that.

02:26:32.000 But absolutely, some of those messages came from other people.

02:26:34.940 Interesting.

02:26:37.940 Okay, this is a good one for you, Bob.

02:26:40.300 I guess your prosecutor and your defense attorney hat on since you've been both.

02:26:44.940 At Don Prasa from YouTube asks, what happens if Cortland and Mellie both say it was the other one?

02:26:51.020 And they've kind of pointed the finger a little bit at Cortland, Bortland, throughout this case.

02:26:56.320 Yeah, no, I've prosecuted these cases.

02:26:58.220 And, you know, it's funny.

02:26:59.500 Some people say, how do you choose between one or the other?

02:27:02.660 Well, the prosecution is going to have to make a choice.

02:27:05.160 Hopefully they're going to do that based on evidence that's solid and will convince a jury.

02:27:08.720 But this kind of gets back to the question you asked about the death penalty.

02:27:12.300 If Bortland testifies against Mellie, it is literally.

02:27:17.820 And I think that's the prosecution's ace in the hole is they're trying to do this case without Bortland because he's such a shitty witness.

02:27:24.660 But if the medical examiner doesn't pan out, I would bet 90 percent sure that they're going to put Bortland on the stand and he's going to testify against Mellie.

02:27:37.040 That's that's what I think the state's strategy is.

02:27:39.060 They're trying not to use him because it's already obvious that they've debunked his stupid ass story through their own independent investigation.

02:27:46.340 So it would look crazy for them to put him on the stand when he literally lied to them and shows he's not credible.

02:27:50.960 But now the state wants to tell you he's credible.

02:27:52.420 So he's a problematic witness.

02:27:55.160 But.

02:27:56.940 If the medical examiner doesn't have a home run, as I as I the state is hoping that she will and all the other witnesses don't line up and it's not irrefutable that Mellie was a murderer, they're going to put Bortland on the stand.

02:28:07.400 And if they do that, bro, sayonara.

02:28:12.420 It's a wrap.

02:28:14.160 Flawless victory.

02:28:16.200 Fatality.

02:28:16.520 I've tried death penalty cases as a prosecutor, and the one axiom is that I don't want there to be any confusion about exactly who the shooter was.

02:28:27.540 The circumstances of the shooting so as not to make you know, when you're asking the jury to give the ultimate penalty, even though the numbers have been reduced in the state of Florida, that if there's a question about who the shooter was.

02:28:39.200 That is a massive problem that would lead me as a prosecutor to say, you know, I'm not comfortable in even filing this as a death penalty case.

02:28:49.300 Interesting.

02:28:50.040 Very interesting.

02:28:51.260 Let's go over to you, Mina.

02:28:53.820 I know you guys are saying, like, why would Bortland testify?

02:28:56.620 His rap career is going to be over, blah, blah, blah.

02:28:58.600 His rap career is going to be over if he doesn't testify, you fucking dummies.

02:29:03.000 You stupid.

02:29:04.000 They're saying that because there's no way if they convict Mellie, there's no way he's not going to prison.

02:29:10.540 It's a fucking rap if they convict Mellie. 0.99

02:29:13.400 Do y'all not get that?

02:29:14.740 Like, Bortland is going to go to prison.

02:29:17.000 If they convict Mellie, it's done for Bortland because Bortland has an even weaker case than Mellie does.

02:29:22.560 He was with the bodies.

02:29:24.000 He's the one that gave the nonsensical story to the police that they got hit in a drive-by that is clearly disproven by the wound pattern.

02:29:31.140 Like, bro, Bortland has no choice but to testify.

02:29:34.480 Y'all are saying his rap career is going to be done.

02:29:35.980 It's going to be done if he doesn't testify.

02:29:38.720 The only way I can see him getting out of this is if they convict Mellie and he doesn't testify, he could try to—

02:29:47.860 No, he's going to take—damn, he's kind of fucked either way.

02:29:49.680 Yeah, because if they don't need his testimony to convict Mellie, then they're going to prosecute him, and he's going to definitely go down for, like, murder tour or accessory or some other bullshit like that.

02:30:00.980 If he testifies, that's what's probably going to save him and keep him out of prison for a significant amount of his life.

02:30:07.140 So he better pray that the state feels iffy and calls him to the stand because that's honestly going to be his best-case scenario to not do a bunch of jail time.

02:30:16.820 Like, that's the only chess move I see on the board for Bortland.

02:30:19.440 He's fucked either way in this, guys.

02:30:21.200 He's going to have to snitch or do a bunch of time in prison.

02:30:23.640 Again, Jamie Smith asks the question, and this is from YouTube, so sorry about that.

02:30:33.360 I'm scrolling here.

02:30:34.060 It seemed the defense inadvertently correlated Mellie directly to the—

02:30:38.300 The reason why so many people are saying Mellie's not guilty or whatever is because a lot of people that are watching right now are his fans, guys.

02:30:42.800 You've got to remember, this dude's been locked up for the better part of five years.

02:30:45.240 People have been waiting for this trial forever.

02:30:46.560 However, it got pushed back because of all the other high-profile trials going on, Parkland and all this other bullshit.

02:30:52.400 So, of course, a bunch of his fans are going to be in there, you know, saying, oh, he's innocent, blah, blah, blah.

02:30:56.900 But, bro, when you look at the evidence, it's bad.

02:30:59.680 This isn't like, you know, Andrew Tate where it's obvious he's innocent, where you've got girls saying they're human trafficking, but they're walking in and out of the house.

02:31:06.320 Bro, they got cell location.

02:31:08.000 They got video surveillance footage.

02:31:09.740 They got all this shit, lying statements from other people.

02:31:13.420 They got all this shit that proves that Mellie was at the scene.

02:31:16.000 Hell, even Mellie himself admitted he was at the scene.

02:31:18.360 So, yeah, bro, this is not even close.

02:31:21.700 Text messages during Cross, will that make a bigger impact on the jury?

02:31:30.520 I think it all makes an impact on the jury, right?

02:31:33.400 Right now we're trying to figure out if Mellie actually committed this murder.

02:31:36.600 I think the text messages show it's strong evidence that he is a gang-affiliated,

02:31:43.960 but I don't know how the gang-affiliation part plays into who committed this murder.

02:31:49.880 So, it all...

02:31:51.880 This is why these fucking commentators are stupid sometimes.

02:31:55.020 I've said this before.

02:31:56.060 I'll say it again.

02:31:57.540 It's not about proving the gang-affiliation led to the murder.

02:32:01.140 It's about proving that he committed the murder and he has gang-affiliation, dummy.

02:32:05.360 Like...

02:32:05.600 That's what it's about.

02:32:09.640 Like, it's merely to prove that he is a member of a gang so that they can go ahead and get their death penalty that they're seeking, guys.

02:32:16.280 That's what it is.

02:32:16.980 Like, bro, are these people watching the same...

02:32:18.980 Yo, this is what happens when you have people that's, like, a serious XM host with no professional experience that can't properly interpret what the fuck is going on.

02:32:29.600 Kind of goes together.

02:32:30.980 I am interested to see in how the doctor and showing the pictures and then also talking about who fired the first shot.

02:32:40.780 I'm interested to see how that plays out.

02:32:43.420 Because for me, the text message evidence was a little weak in that we don't know who was sending the text messages.

02:32:51.380 But then we also don't know how, say, Mellie was gang-affiliated, how that's related to the murder.

02:32:57.220 As far as we know, this doesn't seem like a gang murder.

02:33:00.340 This seems like a murder between friends.

02:33:04.480 So...

02:33:04.880 Who are all gang members?

02:33:06.740 Like, stupid?

02:33:08.520 I think it all goes into play, and it's not singular.

02:33:11.840 It's not...

02:33:12.440 Look at this.

02:33:13.520 Y'all telling me this dude ain't in the blood?

02:33:15.080 Come on, bro.

02:33:16.380 Come on.

02:33:20.680 These dudes are all out here throwing bees.

02:33:23.100 Look, there's Cortland right there.

02:33:24.820 There's Mellie.

02:33:26.560 I don't know who these guys are, but they're clearly gang members.

02:33:29.880 Like, bruh.

02:33:30.520 Come on, man.

02:33:31.360 And you can see here, it looks like he's at a show or something, and he has these guys around him.

02:33:40.020 Like...

02:33:40.380 One thing, you know?

02:33:45.820 Yeah.

02:33:46.320 I mean, a lot of people are kind of asking this question about the...

02:33:50.320 Yeah, like people out here telling me, Myron, you're a hater.

02:33:52.260 Like, nigga, no! 1.00

02:33:53.080 I'm just, like, looking at what the hell...

02:33:54.740 You're telling me he ain't a gang member.

02:33:55.840 Like, what the hell did we just see?

02:33:57.040 What is this?

02:33:59.080 What is that?

02:34:01.540 Like, what the...

02:34:02.280 Boom, mocha! 0.99

02:34:05.420 Yo, man.

02:34:07.100 Yeah.

02:34:07.600 I mean, a lot of people are kind of asking this question about the possible gang affiliation and the motive for the murders.

02:34:14.840 And, you know, I think that the prosecution, just looking at this, I've been going through a lot of those text messages.

02:34:19.940 We did an episode of Sidebar on this today.

02:34:22.820 And I think they're kind of trying to say, like, this may have been part of it.

02:34:25.900 See, I got my federal partners in here investigating.

02:34:27.780 Shout out to ATF.

02:34:28.500 His album cover showed him flashing blood signs, and it says, we all shine because of the G shine blood. 0.94

02:34:32.940 Shout out to the ATF in the house.

02:34:34.040 The feds are in the house out here, baby. 0.77

02:34:39.380 Y'all know what type of this, man.

02:34:41.060 IRS in here, too.

02:34:42.040 No, they're just a neighborhood support group.

02:34:46.860 This loyalty oath to the...

02:34:48.820 Best chat on the internet, man.

02:34:50.040 Holy.

02:34:51.140 ...the gang.

02:34:51.560 So it's a pretty interesting thing that they're kind of bringing into all of this.

02:34:58.060 So let's take a quick break.

02:34:59.680 Keep the questions coming to us on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook.

02:35:04.420 Evidence that shows Mellie getting into this car.

02:35:07.280 There's clear camera footage and camera evidence that shows the cell phones being there together and traveling down the highway, right?

02:35:16.400 But in this case, say something did happen, whether it was a shooting that happened within the car or a drive-by shooting, Mellie as a celebrity would want to distance himself from this.

02:35:28.980 And a lot of the times we see that.

02:35:30.680 I've seen it in other cases where celebrities are protected because this is what happens, right?

02:35:37.060 When celebrities become involved in something, it becomes big.

02:35:41.660 It becomes news.

02:35:42.660 If this wasn't a celebrity, would we be talking about this to the extent that we're talking about it?

02:35:49.800 So that is an excellent question.

02:35:52.200 You know, if you have no guilt, why not just call the police at that moment?

02:35:56.240 But I think what we have to factor in is the fact that Mellie is a celebrity.

02:36:01.340 He is an up-and-coming artist.

02:36:03.900 And I would not put it past for the people in Mellie's lives or life to try to protect him and say, hey, we don't want to associate you with this.

02:36:15.380 Let's remove you from the car. 0.99

02:36:17.060 I'm not saying that's the right thing to do, but I've seen it happen many times with, especially if you're in a group, they're all in that YNW group. 0.98

02:36:26.040 They're all friends.

02:36:27.720 So I've seen it many times where the friends try to protect the celebrity.

02:36:33.200 But I guess just the shock of it, Mina, you know, these are your two lifelong friends, Juvie and Sack Chaser.

02:36:39.000 They came up together making all of this music, and your friends have been, like, just slaughtered in front of you, you know.

02:36:46.980 And wouldn't you be, like, trying to do whatever you could to help them then?

02:36:50.580 Right, and we don't know what.

02:36:53.500 That's one of the victims right there.

02:36:54.960 That's, if I'm not mistaken, Chris, YNW Chris, who was the one that was sitting directly to Mellie's right in the back seat.

02:37:02.720 What happened in the car?

02:37:04.080 I mean, there is footage.

02:37:05.460 There is evidence that states that he was pacing.

02:37:08.280 I think they said something around the lines of, like, a thousand steps.

02:37:11.740 We don't know what that timeline was.

02:37:14.020 We don't know where this shooting happened.

02:37:16.300 And we don't know what the reaction to the shooting was, right?

02:37:19.120 At this point, all we have is all these different sets of, you know, this different set of evidence that they're trying to pinpoint everything, but we're not quite seeing the full picture here.

02:37:31.680 So I don't know where the shooting happened.

02:37:33.480 That's because the trial isn't over yet.

02:37:35.180 Stupid shooting happened.

02:37:36.940 I don't know how it happened.

02:37:38.660 You know, that's a mystery in itself.

02:37:40.460 So I don't know what is an appropriate response to that because I don't know the full details of what happened with this shooting.

02:37:49.120 Yeah.

02:37:49.780 Well, we know the state's saying it happened inside the car, that the drive-by was staged after.

02:37:55.540 Obviously, Bortland said we were the victims of a drive-by.

02:38:00.180 Mentions nothing about, you know, these are all things the jury's going to have to determine.

02:38:05.740 They determine what the truth is here.

02:38:07.620 Tammy Trigg from YouTube, Terry Austin.

02:38:09.720 Is the jury sequestered?

02:38:11.340 No, the jury is not sequestered.

02:38:15.380 They're coming in and out every day.

02:38:17.180 I know for a fact this morning one of them had trouble getting here on time.

02:38:21.340 But generally speaking, they have been here on time.

02:38:24.220 They leave in the evening around 5 o'clock every day.

02:38:27.040 They take a lunch break.

02:38:28.420 The judge is very attentive to their needs.

02:38:30.560 Usually it's around noon.

02:38:31.640 This is why we're doing the noon break here.

02:38:34.240 But, yes, they have the freedom to come and go.

02:38:36.840 The judge does admonish them each and every time they enter and leave that courtroom,

02:38:42.840 asking them whether or not, you know, anyone has listened to anything

02:38:45.280 and telling them before they leave to make sure that they do not listen to social media.

02:38:50.620 Now, this is important, guys.

02:38:52.840 Obviously, in the social media age, this is tough.

02:38:54.440 This is a big reason why O.J. Simpson actually won the trial.

02:38:57.240 For some of you guys that don't know, back in 95, the case had the most coverage I've ever seen.

02:39:02.560 It was like global when the O.J. Simpson case happened.

02:39:04.520 But the jury members were not allowed to look at any of the media.

02:39:09.700 So a big reason why O.J. got acquitted is because the jury didn't see half the things

02:39:14.000 that were out on the media about the O.J. Simpson case.

02:39:16.960 They only saw some things, which the defense counsel did a very good job of,

02:39:19.680 only letting in certain pieces of evidence in and attacking the evidence that did

02:39:23.280 to corrupt, to make the police look crazy, whatever it may be.

02:39:26.940 But in the social media age, it's very difficult to do this.

02:39:29.140 So the jury members are not supposed to watch or engage with any social media

02:39:33.560 that covers this case.

02:39:35.140 Obviously, easier said than done, but they have to do that.

02:39:39.640 Evidence that they see inside the trial is evidence that they need to be considering.

02:39:44.100 So they're not sequestered.

02:39:45.580 We're trusting them the way we trust our system to work.

02:39:48.400 Maybe when they're deliberating, they will be, but not at this point.

02:39:51.220 Yeah, and maybe during the actual penalty phase, if we get...

02:39:57.500 And you guys have asked about the O.J. case.

02:39:59.080 I actually broke down the O.J. case, guys.

02:40:00.960 The reason why it's hard to find is because it's fucking age-restricted.

02:40:03.680 If y'all want, give me what's in the chat.

02:40:04.960 I'll drop the link in the chat.

02:40:06.280 But yeah, and I actually give you guys a pretty good theory on how Nicole Simpson died.

02:40:12.100 And here's the secret part.

02:40:13.520 It wasn't O.J. by himself.

02:40:15.440 Definitely not.

02:40:16.560 There was definitely an accomplice.

02:40:17.580 And I break down how that happened.

02:40:21.780 To that point, they possibly might be sequestered at that point, too.

02:40:25.580 Different states do things differently, depending on, you know, when you get to the penalty phase or not.

02:40:32.880 Here's one for you, Bob, from YouTube.

02:40:35.780 D.A.G., I think that's D.A.G., is asking,

02:40:40.680 if it's required for the jurors to be impartial, which it is,

02:40:43.980 why does it seem as if it's not required for the jurors?

02:40:47.780 Bro, when you guys click on it, it's going to say the following content has been identified by YouTube community

02:40:51.540 as inappropriate offenses to some audiences.

02:40:53.680 Your discretion is advised.

02:40:55.200 So I dropped the link in there for y'all if you want to watch it.

02:40:58.420 Save it in your thing.

02:40:59.160 It's really good.

02:41:00.660 It's actually one of my favorite ones that I did.

02:41:02.900 So check it out.

02:41:04.380 It's really good.

02:41:05.080 After we do this, obviously watch it after this.

02:41:07.800 Witnesses.

02:41:08.240 Well, listen, we don't live in a perfect world.

02:41:14.620 The witnesses are supposed to be impartial, i.e., the witnesses are supposed to tell the truth.

02:41:19.520 But I can tell you from many years of doing this that you can literally have witnesses

02:41:24.540 that watch the same exact event and they come up with two completely.

02:41:29.580 I just pinned it for y'all.

02:41:31.020 If you guys want to go ahead and get it, it's pinned right there, the O.J. Simpson breakdown.

02:41:36.540 Different conclusions, and I've come to the belief when I was younger, I say, well, one of them's

02:41:41.320 timestamps in there are in there and everything, guys.

02:41:43.540 So run that one up, man, because I'm pissed off that the YouTube thrall of that so bad.

02:41:47.180 It's so bad that some of y'all still ask me to this day, yo, did you do O.J. Simpson?

02:41:50.820 I'm like, bro, I did O.J. Simpson, but y'all can't find it because YouTube is lame.

02:41:54.880 And one of them's not.

02:41:56.120 I've come to the belief that people have the capacity to have tunnel logic and confirmation bias,

02:42:01.880 and they genuinely believe what it is they're saying.

02:42:04.320 But the witnesses are supposed to be impartial, and that is why we have the greatest engine

02:42:09.640 to get to the truth for people that are not being truthful, and that is the art of cross-examination.

02:42:17.000 So you can't mandate that a witness is going to be impartial.

02:42:20.480 And let's be honest, when I'm a prosecutor and I've got police officers and detectives

02:42:25.160 who investigated a case, they believe the person is guilty.

02:42:28.480 So I guess you could say they have partiality, but they say they're basing that upon a given

02:42:34.220 set of facts.

02:42:35.680 That and lying are two different things.

02:42:37.700 I don't know if that answers the question, but that's the closest I can get to it.

02:42:41.680 Yeah, and there are different witnesses for different functions, right?

02:42:44.980 You know, expert witnesses versus lay witnesses, things of that nature.

02:42:49.720 So good question, though.

02:42:51.660 So keep those questions coming on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok.

02:42:55.940 We'll get to as many of them as we can, but for now, we've got to take a quick break.

02:42:59.540 I'm Anjanette Levy, and you're watching Law & Crime.

02:43:02.380 We'll be right back.

02:43:16.460 All right, and we're back to a break.

02:43:18.360 So let's go ahead and hit some of these chats if you guys got questions.

02:43:22.780 Okay, it's from Heavy Metal Hotep.

02:43:24.240 Shout out to you, my friend.

02:43:25.940 Alicia Ramirez goes, can you do a breakdown of all of the cities that have fallen due

02:43:29.420 to democratic policies and leaders?

02:43:31.100 I mean, I could give you a quick little rundown on that right now.

02:43:33.460 New York City, San Francisco, Austin, if it doesn't fix itself, is going to be there.

02:43:40.360 Los Angeles, Portland, Oregon, Seattle.

02:43:43.580 These are some cities that are like really shitty thanks to fucking liberals, bro.

02:43:47.840 So definitely.

02:43:51.160 Boston's going to be there soon, you know, unfortunately.

02:43:55.740 Psycho Man says, yo, my man's in the chat said he looked like Chris.

02:43:58.600 I'm dead.

02:43:59.580 Shout out to you.

02:44:00.580 Just a guy, 18 and on my way to becoming a man.

02:44:03.060 Thank you, Myron.

02:44:03.560 Got you.

02:44:04.180 And then just putting a few bucks in the collection plate.

02:44:06.240 Hit the like button.

02:44:06.860 While we wait for this thing to pop up, by the way, guys, here's the OJ documentary.

02:44:11.380 Okay.

02:44:11.680 I'm going to go ahead and put another tab for y'all while we wait for this thing to come

02:44:16.620 back.

02:44:17.040 So look at this.

02:44:26.320 Bro, this dude's hating, man.

02:44:28.580 The following content has been identified by YouTube as inappropriate or offensive.

02:44:32.620 So lame.

02:44:34.340 How to move on.

02:44:35.380 You got it.

02:44:35.920 So as you guys can see here, I go into, right, all the different chapters in here.

02:44:41.320 I got this shit detailed, bro.

02:44:42.880 Like real talk, man.

02:44:43.780 Like if you guys like OJ Simpson, you guys like live through it.

02:44:47.360 I literally go through this thing like piece by piece.

02:44:50.420 This was a three and a half hour breakdown, man, on this case.

02:44:54.160 Because I remember I was a kid when this case happened.

02:44:57.240 95, you couldn't go anywhere without seeing this, man.

02:45:02.000 Like craziness.

02:45:03.440 Like viral upon viral when it was actually hard to get viral, when you didn't have social

02:45:07.260 media.

02:45:07.660 Like this shit was crazy.

02:45:09.320 Anyone that's in their 30s, if you're like 20, maybe, if you're like 30 years old or older,

02:45:15.900 you'll probably know about or remember living through this case to some degree, man.

02:45:20.360 I was a child when this shit happened, but it was wild, man.

02:45:23.100 I remember like every newspaper.

02:45:25.180 It was televised worldwide.

02:45:27.240 It was crazy, man.

02:45:28.840 But yeah.

02:45:30.460 Yeah, man.

02:45:31.140 You know, the Bronco chase, blood evidence.

02:45:33.620 From the back gate at Nicole's house three weeks after the scene had been washed down, which

02:45:38.480 provided the best match by far to Simpson's DNA at the murder scene.

02:45:42.900 Oh, man.

02:45:46.500 OJ's personal.

02:45:47.620 Back from 2000.

02:45:48.480 I pulled up an interview from 2006 where he talked about this shit and he said, if I

02:45:52.780 did it, where he goes into a hypothetical scenario where he's not by himself.

02:45:58.300 And then at the end, well, my prediction on what really happened, which y'all should definitely

02:46:02.220 watch this here at the end, who actually did it.

02:46:04.880 But if you guys want, like you should definitely go through everything where I go through the

02:46:08.420 evidence on each situation.

02:46:09.660 The chase, Ron Goldman, the Chad origins of OJ's jealousy, but like, yo, I look at back

02:46:17.520 at this, man.

02:46:17.960 Like I put a lot of work into this shit, man.

02:46:20.140 God damn.

02:46:22.180 Yeah.

02:46:22.500 I really love you guys.

02:46:23.320 God damn, man.

02:46:24.720 Go look at back.

02:46:25.360 I'm like, God, oh shit.

02:46:27.020 Okay.

02:46:27.620 Yeah.

02:46:27.800 Go watch this man to run this one up for me guys as a favor.

02:46:30.140 Cause I really hard, really hard on this one.

02:46:31.700 I only got 33 K views.

02:46:32.900 I'm fucking pissed off.

02:46:33.680 Cause YouTube wanted to cock block me and make this shit age restricted fucking lame.

02:46:38.560 And I get, I'm telling y'all, this is the best breakdown of the OJ case on the internet.

02:46:43.240 Let me see here.

02:46:44.920 Look at this.

02:46:45.740 Look, bro.

02:46:47.320 This is by far the best OJ case breakdown on the whole internet.

02:46:51.760 Great work, Mark.

02:46:52.440 I think it's undeniable at this point that both were at the scene.

02:46:55.460 Still not sure if it was a murder or a situation that got out of control, but both should have

02:46:59.240 been arrested and die in jail.

02:47:03.460 And if y'all want to know who the other person was that I talked about, go ahead and watch

02:47:08.000 that thing, man.

02:47:09.260 But yeah, bro, this shit was crazy.

02:47:11.720 I go into conspiracy theories on this that came out during this case.

02:47:14.280 We covered, we turn every stone in this investigation, man.

02:47:17.600 So, uh, shout out to y'all, man.

02:47:19.660 Shout out to y'all.

02:47:20.680 Oh, you guys are saying, should I rumble it?

02:47:21.960 I don't think I was.

02:47:23.760 I don't know if I was with rumble at the time I dropped this video, but I'm going to

02:47:30.460 work on something to rumble for Fed reacts to bro.

02:47:32.540 Cause there's some situations where there's shit that I want to be showing y'all.

02:47:34.840 Sometimes that's way too violent for you to know, demonetize me immediately.

02:47:38.880 And they already demonetize a lot of my videos on this channel.

02:47:41.200 They'd be hating, man.

02:47:46.600 Deuce this, but I don't know how Melly being gang related tells us who committed this murder.

02:47:54.300 Um, and I think separating this trial, um, from, you know, uh, Cortland and Melly, I think

02:48:01.960 the separation of this trial allows them to point fingers at each other.

02:48:07.160 It certainly does.

02:48:08.660 Our next question comes from Martin on YouTube.

02:48:11.560 Uh, this is for you, Terry.

02:48:13.220 How do you feel about the cross-examination skills of Melly's lawyer so far?

02:48:17.140 That's David Howard.

02:48:18.080 And do you think he'll do a good job against the medical examiner?

02:48:21.840 Well, we'll see who crosses the medical examiner.

02:48:26.320 Sometimes they switch it up, but so far, I definitely think David Howard has been doing

02:48:30.040 an excellent job.

02:48:31.380 He's developed a rapport, certainly with Danny Polo, who is the undercover agent and they

02:48:36.680 go back and forth and clearly they know.

02:48:39.240 Undercover sheriff's deputy.

02:48:40.740 God damn it.

02:48:41.400 Shit.

02:48:42.080 Oh, what each is doing.

02:48:43.280 I think the undercover agent is definitely, he's off the stand now, but he was definitely

02:48:47.940 trying to make some points.

02:48:49.540 He knew when to follow up, even though the question wasn't being asked, but Howard, on

02:48:54.860 the other hand, made sure he said, okay, so that's speculation then, right?

02:49:00.180 Okay.

02:49:00.740 So that could have been from a Martian.

02:49:02.960 So he's making it very clear when they are talking about issues like what's in the text,

02:49:08.280 what's not in the text.

02:49:09.180 You can't speculate.

02:49:10.100 Oh, okay.

02:49:10.540 There was a phone call.

02:49:11.440 So I think he's doing an excellent job telling that jury what is on black and white in those

02:49:16.640 emails and texts and what's not, and not to speculate.

02:49:20.200 If you don't see that Mellie is saying, oh, I want to be part of this gang, then perhaps

02:49:25.160 that's the case.

02:49:26.020 He hasn't asked for that.

02:49:27.440 And by the way, what the prosecution was trying to say Mellie would get is some clout.

02:49:32.740 Obviously, that's one thing that each side will get, but also opening venues for Mellie,

02:49:38.520 which to me, as you know, thinking about it from the defense perspective, Mellie brings

02:49:43.900 most of that clout.

02:49:45.060 So the defense, I think, really established the fact that it was more one-sided than the

02:49:49.860 other.

02:49:51.740 One thing that I thought was interesting, Terry, you mentioned that David Howard and Danny

02:49:56.500 Polo seemed to know what the other was doing, where the other was going.

02:50:00.320 They also know each other.

02:50:01.980 That kind of came out yesterday in testimony that David Howard has been in contact with

02:50:08.100 Danny Polo to testify, apparently, on another case.

02:50:11.420 So the judge wanted that kind of stricken from the record when the defense objected.

02:50:15.340 That happened.

02:50:16.420 But it came up that they know each other.

02:50:18.940 So I thought that was an interesting little tidbit that he's actually called on him to

02:50:24.180 possibly consult on and testify in one of his cases.

02:50:27.980 I think it was Stuart Adelson, but I think the whole team probably knows Danny, for sure.

02:50:33.920 You're right.

02:50:34.420 It was Stuart Adelson.

02:50:35.040 For sure.

02:50:36.460 Yeah.

02:50:36.840 But Howard, I think, was crossing him.

02:50:38.560 But I think Stuart Adelson's the one that did the...

02:50:40.540 You're right about that objective.

02:50:41.540 That's right.

02:50:42.820 Yep.

02:50:42.960 Okay, so let's go on our next question.

02:50:47.320 Charles Sweet from YouTube.

02:50:48.980 With him jumping from one blood set to another, doesn't that give motive for the gang to come

02:50:53.600 after for Melly and could have done the drive-by shooting?

02:50:58.780 So I guess, Bob, the question is, you know, he was jumping...

02:51:03.980 Melly may have been jumping from one blood set to another.

02:51:06.120 Yo, what the fuck?

02:51:11.320 Yo, he's that pale chick look like Zordid. 1.00

02:51:14.740 Bro, you guys are literally pieces of shit, bro.

02:51:18.580 Let me...

02:51:19.920 Yo! 1.00

02:51:24.060 What the fuck, man?

02:51:26.080 Y'all are fucking...

02:51:37.280 Yo, that's it, man.

02:51:39.560 I'm fucking done with y'all, man.

02:51:41.420 Does that give him motive for the gang to come after for Melly and could have done the

02:51:46.320 drive-by shooting?

02:51:47.020 Like, I guess somebody else in the gang is what they're saying.

02:51:50.060 I don't know.

02:51:51.280 I mean, this is the problem.

02:51:53.020 There are so many questions of what it could be, and that is, as a prosecutor, as a homicide

02:51:58.860 prosecutor, the last place I want to be is maybe it's this demotive, maybe that's demotive.

02:52:04.540 Yo, you ain't shit, bro.

02:52:05.500 I can't refute the defense motive.

02:52:08.080 Look, when we talk about the expert witness, I've never seen it.

02:52:11.200 He was good.

02:52:11.880 He was a good witness.

02:52:12.720 He's a skilled guy.

02:52:13.980 But it was always done in generalities.

02:52:16.500 The testimony that that detective gave, and at least in my state, wouldn't even qualify

02:52:22.520 to make somebody a gang-validated member.

02:52:25.480 There's a criteria that you have to use in order to do that.

02:52:29.200 There are lots of people that hang around gangs.

02:52:32.140 There's lots of...

02:52:32.860 Frank Sinatra hung around the mob.

02:52:35.320 Doesn't mean that he was committing murders for them.

02:52:37.760 Lots of mob people want to...

02:52:39.860 Or gang people want to be involved with fancy people and famous people.

02:52:44.400 And sometimes they portray themselves like grew up in an area where people portrayed

02:52:48.340 themselves to be something and they weren't anything like that.

02:52:51.380 So if the prosecution cannot pin down a specific motive, they're going to lose the jury.

02:52:57.560 Maybe they'll get the conviction on the murder.

02:52:59.400 Maybe, maybe.

02:53:00.600 But they're going to lose the jury on the aggravating factors for the death penalty.

02:53:04.580 So I just think this testimony has been way too general to not have at least any sliver

02:53:11.400 of reasonable doubt.

02:53:12.380 And Andrew had to go back to the same story.

02:53:15.020 If there's any sliver of reasonable doubt in the guilt phase, any sliver, even though

02:53:20.140 they may find him guilty, they're not going to impose the death penalty on a case like

02:53:24.840 that.

02:53:25.400 No.

02:53:26.160 If Mellie's walks, I'm not going to be pissed at all because we'll be able to fucking

02:53:30.460 not have a rapper get killed by the state of Florida.

02:53:33.640 But I foresee that it's going to be damn near impossible for him to walk, bro.

02:53:37.720 I don't wish death upon no man.

02:53:39.000 But I'm telling y'all, I'm getting y'all prepared.

02:53:40.560 He's like, I say, 95% chance he gets convicted.

02:53:46.020 That.

02:53:48.320 Yeah.

02:53:48.780 You could be very well.

02:53:49.980 You could be right on that, Bob.

02:53:51.240 Most certainly.

02:53:52.820 Sam Sella from YouTube.

02:53:54.700 Nina asks. 0.58

02:53:55.520 The difference between me and the fans and Mellie's situation is I have experience in

02:54:01.320 this shit and I'm realistic.

02:54:03.660 There's a very slim chance he's going to beat these charges, man.

02:54:07.520 You think a culture of silence will hurt the prosecution?

02:54:10.540 I do think so.

02:54:14.960 I do think that will hurt the prosecution because the culture of silence is the reason why you

02:54:20.040 might not have certain witnesses come forward.

02:54:23.020 I mean, we've seen it with Danny Polo.

02:54:24.760 He wanted to cover himself.

02:54:26.300 You're talking about gangs in open court, you know, that obviously don't want to be mentioned,

02:54:32.360 don't want to be in the limelight.

02:54:33.880 And that might open you up to some violence.

02:54:36.280 I mean, Danny made it very clear that he was worried about his family in this testimony.

02:54:41.160 And that's why he wanted to be covered.

02:54:43.420 I do want to kind of hop on what Bob said in terms of affiliations with gang members.

02:54:49.420 I know that a lot of celebrities a lot of times do converse with gang members because you have

02:54:55.740 to think about the music that they're making and the areas that they're going to, right?

02:55:00.060 Some of these areas are not safe.

02:55:01.780 And some of these areas are actually guarded by certain groups, right?

02:55:06.920 So you have to have the protection of those groups when you go to that area.

02:55:11.880 So a lot of the times you will see celebrities have a relationship with gang members because

02:55:16.960 they're wearing a lot of jewelry.

02:55:18.980 They're doing club appearances.

02:55:20.620 They're doing shows and they're walking around with a lot of money.

02:55:24.600 They're celebrities.

02:55:25.480 They're known.

02:55:26.340 That might be a target for other gangs.

02:55:28.920 So a lot of the time.

02:55:29.600 Here he is again, throwing up another gang sign with the bees.

02:55:35.020 Celebrities do have these relationships and it's almost necessary to operate in these

02:55:40.040 different areas and to keep yourself safe.

02:55:42.320 That might necessarily might not mean that you're part.

02:55:44.640 That's how LA is.

02:55:45.500 You have to have some type of affiliation, especially if you're black.

02:55:48.380 You got to have like some type of people vouching for you so you don't get taken to the cleaner

02:55:53.220 every day.

02:55:54.020 Part of that gang.

02:55:55.100 But you need the protection of that gang to operate.

02:55:57.920 Well, Florida is not that way.

02:55:59.240 In some of these areas.

02:56:00.620 Now, obviously, I don't I'm not saying that this is the case with Melly, but what I am

02:56:05.760 saying is it's not an anomaly for certain celebrities to know certain gang members so that they can

02:56:12.580 be safe when they're traveling in these different areas.

02:56:17.100 That's some that's some good perspective there from you.

02:56:20.280 She is correct about that.

02:56:21.340 But that's L.A., man.

02:56:22.520 There's not many cities that operate like that, like where he's from, Gifford, Georgia, which

02:56:26.600 is in the middle of nowhere.

02:56:27.460 No, that's not a thing.

02:56:29.880 You know, thanks for adding that bloop depth bloop dot Sammy from TikTok asks, Terry, if

02:56:36.320 Melly didn't have any gun residue on him, then why is he getting the charge?

02:56:42.100 Well, that's an excellent question.

02:56:43.720 He did not have any gun residue on him.

02:56:45.920 And that's why they cannot put that gun in his hand.

02:56:48.760 And he's being charged because they believe he's the one.

02:56:51.660 But he hasn't really been connected to, you know, being in that car, taking those shots,

02:56:57.540 the gun residue, the DNA.

02:56:59.200 None of that is so far on Melly.

02:57:01.020 The only thing that the prosecution, in my opinion, has firmly established is that and

02:57:06.080 actually, this is not even that firmly established, is that Melly's DNA is in the back seat where

02:57:12.720 behind the driver on that door handle.

02:57:15.460 And even that, I think, is questionable because at first, Melly's DNA didn't come back on anything.

02:57:21.380 And they did a second look on that door handle and they saw his DNA there.

02:57:26.520 And that was just very recent in June of this year, frankly.

02:57:30.220 So no gun residue.

02:57:32.640 All right.

02:57:33.320 So fine.

02:57:35.100 I'll give it to her there.

02:57:36.020 I mean, there's a bunch of reasons why it might not have been found on the first time.

02:57:39.040 Sloppiness, not getting it done properly.

02:57:41.420 You know, they didn't go to trial for five years.

02:57:43.060 So it is what it is.

02:57:44.260 But they got it.

02:57:45.080 They wiped it down again.

02:57:46.060 And they found his DNA four years later.

02:57:47.860 And Melly's been in prison all this time.

02:57:49.220 You're trying to tell me they got his DNA somehow and put it on the door handle.

02:57:52.480 OK, that's a bit far fetched.

02:57:53.960 Let's go ahead and go with that.

02:57:55.040 OK, they didn't find it the first go around.

02:57:57.520 It was a plant and a conspiracy.

02:57:59.620 Oh, my God.

02:58:00.240 Let's say that.

02:58:00.720 Right.

02:58:00.840 Let's go with that.

02:58:02.100 OK.

02:58:03.200 But at the end of the day, she's saying, oh, nothing places him in the car, et cetera.

02:58:06.600 Are you blind?

02:58:07.580 Have you not been watching a trial?

02:58:08.800 There's CCTV footage of him literally getting in the backseat passenger seat.

02:58:13.680 There's a phone location data proving that he was in the vehicle at the location where the shots happened, where the fake drive-by staging occurred.

02:58:23.780 They proved that also to corroborate that the phone was there.

02:58:27.900 Why?

02:58:28.160 Because the detectives, right, once they did that phone search warrant, right, and they saw that Melly was really in that location, they went back.

02:58:37.080 And when they went back, guess what they found, guys?

02:58:39.600 They saw broken glass on the floor.

02:58:41.720 They haven't talked about this in the trial yet, if I'm not mistaken.

02:58:44.320 They found broken glass on the floor.

02:58:46.500 Guess where that broken glass came from?

02:58:48.500 This fucking vehicle.

02:58:50.240 OK.

02:58:51.520 That all these things, the vehicle which Melly was in based on the phone location data was tracked back to a desolate location that YNW Portland did not tell the detectives about.

02:59:02.540 Now, originally, the detectives did the search warrant, found the phone in that location, went to said location, found shards of glass, was able to connect those shards of glass to this vehicle.

02:59:12.320 What the fuck are y'all talking about?

02:59:13.900 Like, yo, these law of crime people are very stupid.

02:59:19.500 They don't really know this case like that.

02:59:21.700 That's why I be listening to them sometimes and I'm like, bro, y'all are like, what are y'all talking about?

02:59:26.220 You know, like, what?

02:59:28.660 What?

02:59:30.260 What do you mean they don't have evidence that links Melly to the fucking situation?

02:59:33.780 The phone is what led the police there in the first place.

02:59:39.040 They wouldn't have found, right?

02:59:41.720 They wouldn't have found this vehicle.

02:59:43.140 Remember, the original story was they got shot at a drive-by shooting on the highway, right?

02:59:49.540 Portland told some cockamamia bullshit story.

02:59:52.580 They weren't able to piece everything back together until they got, like, the phone data and tracked it back and they found the broken shards of glass where they staged this drive-by,

03:00:03.300 which irrefutably proves that not only the vehicle was there, but Melly's phone was there on the location,

03:00:09.100 which is then also corroborated by the CCTV footage, which shows that he got into that vehicle in the back left seat.

03:00:16.260 And the medical examiner has already said that the shots came from inside the vehicle from right to fucking left, not right to left, like the fucking drive-by shooting is indicating.

03:00:27.820 It was left to right, excuse me, all right?

03:00:30.200 Not right to left.

03:00:31.260 So, all of this evidence put together builds a very strong circumstantial case that leads you to only one fucking conclusion.

03:00:41.740 Who sat in the back left seat?

03:00:43.580 We know it was Melly.

03:00:45.040 Where did the shots come from?

03:00:46.520 The back left seat based on the wounds.

03:00:48.280 Where did the shooting happen?

03:00:49.540 In a desolate area right outside of Miramar, contrary to YW Portland's original statements of the police that said they got shot on the highway.

03:00:56.560 And then the phone location data corroborates all of that, man.

03:01:03.800 Am I the only person that knows this case?

03:01:06.940 Like, what are these dudes at Law and Crime doing?

03:01:10.080 What do you mean there's nothing linking Melly to the case?

03:01:13.480 Not much to speak of.

03:01:15.600 You know, they really have not connected those dots, I think, enough for that jury.

03:01:19.540 So, it's, you know, a good question.

03:01:22.260 Be patient.

03:01:23.080 Man, yo, this is going to be a month-long trial.

03:01:27.320 We're only on day nine.

03:01:29.400 Like, be patient, bro.

03:01:31.400 Like, this is how I could tell that none of them read up on this case prior to this trial.

03:01:37.020 Because all of them, they don't know what the evidence is going to come.

03:01:40.380 I know the evidence is going to come because I've already studied this case.

03:01:43.420 I already know it's damn near, you know, it's proven at this point.

03:01:48.120 But it's very obvious to me that these guys didn't study this case prior to the trial.

03:01:53.100 And they're just watching the trial.

03:01:54.620 And this is the first time they've seen a lot of this evidence.

03:01:56.640 So, it doesn't make sense to them.

03:01:58.160 But, bro, like, come on, man.

03:02:00.800 And if you guys got questions about this, go watch my original Wine W. Melly breakdown.

03:02:06.540 Where I have timestamps and I go through the police's affidavit, which outlines everything and how they built their case.

03:02:15.220 Very well-written affidavit that documents all the evidence.

03:02:18.220 And basically leads you to believe there's no other way this could have happened had it not been for Melly shooting them.

03:02:24.960 All of Melly's friends lied, to include fucking Fredo Bang as well.

03:02:28.220 And if I'm going to speculate, okay, going here into a little bit of a conspiracy theory, I have reason to believe.

03:02:38.520 Because, remember, they never found the gun.

03:02:40.420 You know where that gun is?

03:02:41.580 Melly and I think Fredo Bang got rid of that gun together.

03:02:46.160 All right?

03:02:46.740 Because we know that Melly was looking for a gun right after this shit happened.

03:02:51.220 Hey, man.

03:02:52.880 I think that's something the FBI would call a clue.

03:02:54.880 And Fredo Bang lied to the police all over the place about where he was, where Melly was, etc.

03:03:01.140 And they found through phone location data that he was lying and didn't go where he said he was.

03:03:06.700 You know, shout out to Fredo Bang for keeping it in 1,000, covering for his friend.

03:03:10.120 But that doesn't help the case.

03:03:12.480 Why they decided to bring the charges against him.

03:03:15.380 And not only that, the death penalty.

03:03:17.520 He was better off not talking to them at all than giving a bullshit story.

03:03:20.840 All these guys that gave a statement to the police, they were better off not talking at all.

03:03:23.800 They actually hurt Melly with their nonsensical lies.

03:03:28.260 Well, let's keep in mind, too.

03:03:29.940 You know, we saw we had the surveillance video of Melly in the vehicle.

03:03:33.180 So we definitely know he was there.

03:03:35.300 The question is, was he there when the shooting happened?

03:03:38.580 And that's the question the jury is going to have to answer.

03:03:41.880 Let's take a quick break.

03:03:43.140 Keep the question.

03:03:43.640 Look, look.

03:03:46.940 Bro.

03:03:48.440 What the?

03:03:49.020 Y'all are watching the same pod as I am, right?

03:03:54.660 The lady literally said, there's not anything connecting Melly.

03:03:57.740 Yo, this is YW Melly right here, bro.

03:04:00.560 This is him.

03:04:01.680 Look at where he goes.

03:04:02.620 It's coming on YouTube, Twitter.

03:04:04.860 Oh, they didn't show it.

03:04:05.660 But he gets in the back seat.

03:04:07.320 TikTok.

03:04:08.100 Let's take a quick.

03:04:09.120 He gets in the back seat.

03:04:10.060 This is the vehicle that all the shots came in.

03:04:12.800 All the bullet holes were on this side.

03:04:15.680 But the shots came from left to right.

03:04:17.800 Melly's going to get in the back of this. 1.00

03:04:19.400 Here he is right here.

03:04:20.440 Clear as day.

03:04:20.940 Getting in the vehicle.

03:04:21.900 Look what he has.

03:04:23.100 Look at that satchel.

03:04:24.280 A gun can definitely fit in that.

03:04:26.000 Right?

03:04:26.980 It's coming on YouTube, Twitter, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook.

03:04:31.580 We'll get to as many of them as we can when we come back.

03:04:34.280 I'm Ann Jeanette Levy.

03:04:35.360 And you're watching Law & Crime.

03:04:43.800 Someone said he could have got dropped off.

03:04:46.140 Good question.

03:04:46.980 Good comment.

03:04:47.880 But the phone was with Melly, bro.

03:04:51.880 You telling me he got out the car in the middle of nowhere and didn't have his phone or wasn't with his phone?

03:04:57.100 We know that's a lie because Melly made a FaceTime call later that night in the same wooded, desolate area to his girlfriend.

03:05:05.700 So we know for a fact he was in possession of the phone.

03:05:08.300 Like, if the phone was not used after the murder, then he could say, oh, bro, I got dropped off on the side of the road.

03:05:13.540 I didn't know.

03:05:14.460 Like, I just went home.

03:05:15.880 I left my phone in the car.

03:05:17.480 That's how y'all were able to track it there.

03:05:19.600 But tell me how he had the phone an hour later and made a FaceTime call.

03:05:27.640 Exactly.

03:05:29.180 Like, goddamn, bro.

03:05:30.540 Like, these Melly fans.

03:05:32.060 Flawless victory.

03:05:33.180 Delusional.

03:05:36.920 In court, will he?

03:05:38.220 Like, I know this case very well, bro.

03:05:40.540 That's why.

03:05:41.120 Like, I'm out here with the facts.

03:05:42.400 I'm not out here like these guys hearing about this case for the first time, catching up on the trial.

03:05:46.820 I'm not convinced.

03:05:48.380 It's because you don't know all the evidence that's about to come.

03:05:50.960 Y'all are dumb. 0.92

03:05:51.660 Like, these people, it's very obvious they didn't read the probable cause affidavit.

03:05:55.780 They didn't follow this case prior to the trial.

03:05:58.040 They don't really know all the circumstances that led to the arrest in the first place.

03:06:01.720 Like, bro, if you actually looked at this case and read that probable cause affidavit.

03:06:05.680 I'm going to link it for y'all.

03:06:06.380 Fuck this shit.

03:06:06.780 I'm going to link that probable cause for y'all affidavit.

03:06:09.060 And I'm going to link my video so you guys can actually, like, go through and watch this shit.

03:06:12.180 Because you guys don't think I'm a crazy man here.

03:06:13.820 Because it's wild to me how so many people try to debate me on this and argue me on this.

03:06:19.460 That Melly's innocent.

03:06:20.380 And I'm like, you're an idiot.

03:06:21.660 You literally are an idiot.

03:06:23.460 Cover his friend?

03:06:25.120 Will he explain a different story?

03:06:26.780 Which is probably likely in that scenario.

03:06:28.900 So, yes, let's wait to see.

03:06:30.960 I've done a lot of murder.

03:06:32.080 Here.

03:06:32.780 Look.

03:06:33.560 Look, man.

03:06:37.660 I'm going to show y'all this joint real quick.

03:06:42.800 So, you go to my channel, right?

03:06:45.180 You go here.

03:06:46.860 Hip-hop cases.

03:06:49.540 Right?

03:06:50.060 Hip-hop Enrico cases.

03:06:51.600 Bang.

03:06:52.500 We're going to go where...

03:06:54.560 I got this.

03:06:55.860 Look at all the cases I've covered here, man.

03:06:58.200 With this.

03:06:59.340 All right.

03:06:59.580 Look.

03:06:59.740 It was my first video I covered on this.

03:07:03.000 It's an American.

03:07:03.800 Right?

03:07:04.460 This is the link right here, guys.

03:07:06.480 Right?

03:07:06.760 Where I cover this shit in detail.

03:07:08.340 I'll drop it in the chat for you guys right now.

03:07:11.620 The original.

03:07:12.200 And then...

03:07:21.020 Here's the affidavit, bro.

03:07:28.240 That they used to arrest him with all the facts that I broke down.

03:07:33.020 Okay?

03:07:34.440 If y'all want...

03:07:36.560 You know what, man?

03:07:38.020 I still haven't slept.

03:07:39.080 And it's fucking about to be 1 p.m. in the afternoon.

03:07:41.680 God damn it, man.

03:07:42.920 I guess we're on overtime now.

03:07:45.580 All right.

03:07:45.960 Let me see.

03:07:46.480 Do we still got this lunch break shit going on?

03:07:49.380 Yeah, we do.

03:07:50.340 All right.

03:07:50.980 I'm going to let y'all pick.

03:07:52.440 Do y'all want me to read this affidavit for y'all?

03:07:55.000 And go through it with y'all?

03:07:56.140 Line by line?

03:07:56.920 Or do you guys want to keep listening to this?

03:08:00.260 Give me a 1 p.m. if you guys want me to do the affidavit.

03:08:03.000 Or two if y'all want to just keep watching the law and crime thing.

03:08:06.940 It's up to you guys.

03:08:07.700 I'm going to leave it to y'all.

03:08:11.460 Let's see here.

03:08:14.420 Because it looks like the trial still hasn't begun.

03:08:17.880 And I'll stop once we start the trial.

03:08:19.740 But up to y'all.

03:08:22.720 Oh, yeah.

03:08:22.960 I'm only going to go for the affidavit until the trial's back.

03:08:25.580 I'm not going to read the affidavit.

03:08:29.560 So here.

03:08:31.400 You know what?

03:08:31.660 Let me do a poll.

03:08:34.800 That's more accurate here.

03:08:37.660 Let me do a poll.

03:08:41.080 What the hell?

03:08:41.540 Let me do a poll.

03:08:44.720 Well, this is lame.

03:08:45.740 Hold on.

03:08:46.040 Oh, there we go.

03:09:05.720 All right.

03:09:06.060 So I'll go ahead and do a poll for y'all.

03:09:10.980 Start a poll.

03:09:14.160 There we go.

03:09:14.940 All right.

03:09:15.940 So I'll go.

03:09:17.560 Sorry.

03:09:18.860 Affidavit till trial or commentary.

03:09:28.060 All right.

03:09:28.900 All right.

03:09:36.060 Let's see what y'all vote.

03:09:39.480 Put it in your guys' hands.

03:09:42.020 And let me move this tab out the way.

03:09:49.860 My bad, guys.

03:09:51.360 Fucking why is this shit not moving?

03:09:53.600 No.

03:09:53.940 Fuck this.

03:09:54.220 I'll close it.

03:09:58.240 Sorry about that, guys.

03:09:59.220 All right.

03:10:06.060 Like this.

03:10:08.440 Here's the affidavit.

03:10:11.000 Let me look at the poll.

03:10:15.340 Oh, shit.

03:10:16.000 Okay.

03:10:16.820 Looks like the affidavit is winning 68%.

03:10:18.920 All right.

03:10:19.260 I'll watch it.

03:10:19.880 I'll read the affidavit until the trial's back.

03:10:22.920 Okay.

03:10:23.360 Let's go through this thing.

03:10:25.400 Looks like this is what you guys want.

03:10:26.740 So what I will do is get my ugly mug off this joint and enlarge it for you.

03:10:33.180 Okay.

03:10:40.920 All right.

03:10:43.160 The facts are as follows.

03:10:44.580 Okay.

03:10:44.860 On 1026-18 at 435 a.m., Courtland Henry entered the emergency room at Memorial Miramar, requesting assistance for two passengers in his vehicle as they were shot multiple times.

03:10:57.280 Officer Amengor, Miramar PD, who was working the security detail, exited the hospital and made contact with the aforementioned vehicle that was stopped in the loading zone on the north side of Memorial, his Miramar hospital ER entrance.

03:11:07.360 Amengor, the police officer, requested medical staff in the removing of the two passengers.

03:11:11.840 Both passengers were unresponsive, exhibited multiple gunshot wounds, the aforementioned vehicle, transporting both victims, also sustained.

03:11:20.200 Why the hell is it acting like that?

03:11:23.140 Hold on.

03:11:23.520 Sorry, guys.

03:11:23.940 I'm realizing that it's like spazzing out on y'all.

03:11:28.420 The fucking thing.

03:11:30.000 Let me.

03:11:32.160 You know what?

03:11:33.020 I think I know what I'm going to do.

03:11:34.580 Bear with me real quick, guys.

03:11:36.360 I'm going to go ahead and download this shit.

03:11:39.300 I'm going to stop sharing screen real quick.

03:11:41.840 Let me do this real fast for y'all on the side.

03:11:47.320 Put this over here.

03:11:49.560 Boom.

03:12:00.780 All right.

03:12:01.240 So I'll share this while we wait.

03:12:04.280 I'll play this for y'all while I do this shit on the side.

03:12:08.120 What the fuck's going on?

03:12:09.340 How it happened and what was used, what gun was used in this shooting?

03:12:16.260 Yeah, we know they recovered a .40 caliber round.

03:12:21.800 So we do know that.

03:12:23.220 And there was an area that they discussed and showed pictures of where there was some, you know, broken glass on the ground and things like that, where they are claiming that this happened.

03:12:32.840 So I'm sure the prosecution will tie this all together in their closing, but that's something we're still waiting to see, how they bring this all together in closing.

03:12:43.420 Our next question, two YouTube questions.

03:12:46.420 One is from Tynaja Jania asking, why is this case being sentenced to death if they barely have evidence?

03:12:54.340 Hold on.

03:12:56.840 We're good now.

03:12:57.560 They're stated to begin pretty soon.

03:12:59.580 Okay.

03:12:59.900 So he's back.

03:13:00.720 They're going to come back here soon.

03:13:01.680 So let's go through this quickly while we can.

03:13:05.100 All right.

03:13:08.120 Probable cause.

03:13:08.880 Okay.

03:13:10.480 The aforementioned vehicle transported both victims also sustained a minimum of eight projectile entry points on the right side exterior and one visible projectile entry point to the rear lift gate.

03:13:21.120 The front right passenger, Anthony Williams, sustained gunshot wounds to his torso and head while the right rear passenger, Christopher Thomas Jr.

03:13:27.560 So this is sack chaser right here, guys.

03:13:29.220 Right?

03:13:31.860 Get this goddamn red. 0.70

03:13:35.080 Since we're doing bloods anyway.

03:13:36.840 Sack chaser right here, guys.

03:13:38.320 And then Chris, right?

03:13:39.680 Sustained several gunshot wounds to his back and head.

03:13:41.480 Both passengers on the right side of the vehicle were pronounced deceased by medical staff at Memorial Miramar.

03:13:45.940 Okay.

03:13:46.560 Henry was questioned by this affian. 0.89

03:13:48.040 Okay.

03:13:48.300 By the detective.

03:13:49.340 According to him, he departed.

03:13:50.200 This is the story that Cortland Henry gave.

03:13:52.120 Okay.

03:13:53.720 According to him, he departed recording studio on Fort Lauderdale with two victims in his vehicle.

03:13:58.900 Henry said he drove on I-595 to I-75 and exited at Miramar Parkway heading west.

03:14:03.540 Henry stated that just past Southwest 160th Ave, a vehicle pulled next to him and started shooting.

03:14:11.120 Henry immediately lowered his body position to the floorboards in a protective posture to avoid being shot.

03:14:14.900 Henry added that when he sat upright, his friends Williams and Thomas were shot and he immediately proceeded to the nearest hospital.

03:14:21.920 Detective Toya later drove with Henry to have him identify the specific location of where the shooting occurred.

03:14:28.300 Henry pointed out the 1600 block of Miramar Parkway.

03:14:30.780 It should be noted the area was shut down between 160th and 172nd Ave on Miramar Parkway and was closely examined for any evidence to corroborate the statements made by Henry.

03:14:39.620 After a long and exhausting examination, no evidence was found.

03:14:43.780 Hmm.

03:14:44.060 I wonder why.

03:14:45.560 Let's put a pin in that. 0.75

03:14:47.440 The detectives and officers walked the 12 blocks out on foot.

03:14:50.900 It should be noted not a single report of gunshots was reported to Broward County Communications Center nor Miami-Dade as well.

03:14:57.760 It should be noted that the area between 172nd Ave and 184th Ave was closed down on 10-29-2018 and canvassed on foot by detectives and officers.

03:15:08.300 No corroborating evidence was found.

03:15:10.560 Translation, the police, okay, went and looked at the area that Henry claimed that they were shot, okay?

03:15:22.540 But the police didn't find shit.

03:15:24.600 Then Henry's hands were processed by Miramar Police Department of Crime Scene by submission for laboratory testing with Tri-Tech Gunshot Residue Evalanche Collection Kit and with the presumptive gunshot residue test.

03:15:33.260 The presumptive gunshot residue test was negative.

03:15:35.660 Lab results were pending.

03:15:36.980 The Tri-Gunshot Residue Evidence location.

03:15:38.800 So he was negative for gunshot residue.

03:15:40.560 Now, why?

03:15:42.780 Because he didn't shoot.

03:15:44.140 On 10-26, this afternoon, along with Detective LaToya, also, I want you guys to notice, he didn't mention that Melly got in the vehicle, okay?

03:15:52.380 He said he departed the recording studio in Fort Lauderdale with the two victims in his vehicle.

03:15:57.580 Doesn't mention Melly.

03:15:59.060 Hmm.

03:15:59.380 Hmm.

03:15:59.440 On 10-28, your affidavit with Detective LaToya made contact with Dontavious Wither, who initially identified himself as Dontavious Williams at his address.

03:16:14.160 This is the last known residence of the victims.

03:16:16.020 According to Withers, they, Withers, Henry, Demons, Demons, by the way, is Melly, Thomas, Williams, and a few others, were at a recording studio in Fort Lauderdale and all left together in two separate vehicles.

03:16:28.360 Withers stated he arrived a little ahead of the victims at the aforementioned residence.

03:16:32.000 Withers stated it wasn't until later that he found out his friends were shot.

03:16:35.800 Withers said that Demons was in his vehicle, a red Mitsubishi.

03:16:39.620 Hold on one second.

03:16:40.760 Stop the show.

03:16:41.500 Stop the cab. 0.93

03:16:42.180 Really?

03:16:42.960 Let's see here.

03:16:44.260 He went in your red Mitsubishi.

03:16:50.100 I'm about to show y'all how stupid people really are here.

03:17:00.280 All right, Ninjas.

03:17:02.200 Here's Sack Chaser, right?

03:17:06.780 Withers is probably one of these dudes here.

03:17:09.140 I don't know who in particular, but you can see their car.

03:17:11.960 Oh, no, it's one of these two.

03:17:13.400 This right here is YW Chris.

03:17:15.980 You're going to see him.

03:17:17.040 Oh, no, excuse me.

03:17:17.680 I'm sorry.

03:17:18.140 That's Portland right there.

03:17:19.980 He's the driver.

03:17:21.100 So Sack Chaser gets in the front. 1.00

03:17:22.780 Portland gets in the front seat.

03:17:24.140 Right?

03:17:25.820 Here are these two dudes.

03:17:26.820 So right now, I guess Portland hasn't lied, has he?

03:17:35.680 But let's see what happens next.

03:17:39.520 Then, here comes another individual.

03:17:42.580 I don't know who this guy is, but I think he's also going to get in the red Mitsubishi.

03:17:49.140 Right?

03:17:49.540 Then, look who appears.

03:17:55.420 Oh, looks like Melly. 0.97

03:17:57.480 Not only is it Melly, he's wearing a satchel. 0.74

03:17:59.860 If you guys notice, it looks like it's weighed down a little bit, doesn't it?

03:18:02.700 Has that stiff type feeling to it.

03:18:05.140 Where does he get in?

03:18:07.420 Hmm.

03:18:08.680 He gets in the back left seat.

03:18:10.780 Portland didn't say that, did he, though?

03:18:15.040 Let that detail out.

03:18:16.920 You can clearly see he gets in.

03:18:18.980 Door opens.

03:18:20.400 Closes.

03:18:21.340 Right?

03:18:22.520 Now, who's this?

03:18:24.340 This is Chris.

03:18:25.660 The other victim.

03:18:26.820 What does he do?

03:18:28.100 He gets in the seat right next to Melly.

03:18:35.100 Okay?

03:18:35.940 He gets in the seat right next to Melly.

03:18:37.400 Now, I think all of y'all in the chat got two eyes like I do, correct?

03:18:44.380 Did Melly get in the red Mitsubishi?

03:18:49.880 Hmm.

03:18:51.580 Nope.

03:18:53.500 Oh, and look, they're taking off.

03:18:56.500 Melly's still in the vehicle.

03:19:00.620 And now the Mitsubishi takes off.

03:19:03.080 But what did this nigga say? 1.00

03:19:04.140 Wither said that Demons was in his vehicle, a red Mitsubishi.

03:19:09.580 Bro.

03:19:16.520 Biggest cap.

03:19:17.500 Stop the cap. 0.94

03:19:18.740 And the great Jeep was occupied by Henry, Williams, and Thomas.

03:19:23.200 Lie.

03:19:24.080 They, like, bruh, in fucking 4K.

03:19:26.940 Y'all see now that I just started this affidavit, by the way,

03:19:33.600 and we're already finding inconsistencies.

03:19:35.560 I haven't even warmed up yet, guys.

03:19:40.700 You know, I'm telling y'all, the way I talk about this case so confidently

03:19:43.940 is because I know what the fuck I'm talking about.

03:19:46.240 Oh, Melly isn't connected.

03:19:48.140 How are you guys proving it?

03:19:49.580 Like, nigga, look at what his friends are saying. 1.00

03:19:52.100 Melly wasn't in the red Mitsubishi was me.

03:19:54.540 Like, no, stupid.

03:19:56.660 Stop the cap. 0.94

03:19:59.160 Withers was asked if he knew the location of Demons,

03:20:01.220 and he stated he did not.

03:20:02.280 However, it was later discovered that Withers was lying to this affian.

03:20:04.720 And see, Withers had just come from the residence of Frederick Givens,

03:20:07.240 a.k.a. Fredo Bang,

03:20:08.960 and had been in the presence of Demons.

03:20:12.440 So we back yet?

03:20:13.660 Let's see here.

03:20:14.380 Let me make sure.

03:20:16.440 Oh, it looks like we're back on the trial.

03:20:18.260 All right, guys.

03:20:18.900 Y'all get the idea.

03:20:19.840 Um, but, bro, this, this affidavit is crazy.

03:20:23.800 Go ahead and read it.

03:20:24.820 Uh, watch this video that I, that I, um,

03:20:26.880 I'll put, put in the chat for y'all on the Melly case.

03:20:29.100 Well, let's get back to the, to the fire.

03:20:30.840 I believe.

03:20:32.820 Show it in, depict an injury externally.

03:20:36.000 It's not an internal.

03:20:37.500 I don't know that they're so gruesome as to, uh,

03:20:40.500 Uh, it's a recap.

03:20:42.440 All right, fuck this shit.

03:20:43.460 Okay, let's keep going.

03:20:44.620 It's a recap.

03:20:45.040 The location of the recording studio was identified as 805 Northeast.

03:20:49.920 Blah, blah, blah.

03:20:50.220 Detective Sway and Bertrand made contact with management.

03:20:52.760 The manager of the studio, Albert Price, confirmed.

03:20:54.560 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

03:20:55.600 But here's the important thing.

03:20:56.760 We already went over the, the, the surveillance footage I just showed y'all.

03:21:00.780 This, right?

03:21:02.040 The surveillance footage.

03:21:02.880 That's what the police saw.

03:21:04.260 Okay.

03:21:04.740 So that's what this paragraph covers.

03:21:06.300 They say, um, it should be noted that demons had a light brown satchel hanging down on the left side of his body.

03:21:11.680 The satchel appeared to be weighed down, but the contents were unknown.

03:21:14.120 When Christopher Thomas Jr.

03:21:15.540 Departed studio, he was carrying a black satchel in his left hand.

03:21:18.120 That satchel also appeared to be weighed down as well.

03:21:19.960 The gray Jeep and with the above list individuals, the part of the area, the red Mitsubishi being driven by Withers.

03:21:25.840 Okay.

03:21:26.040 So Withers was the driver of the red Mitsubishi and Adrian Davis, two others followed behind.

03:21:31.160 So Melly never got in.

03:21:32.560 They lied.

03:21:33.360 Okay.

03:21:34.380 As stated earlier, Withers, uh, proceeded directly to his residence in Miramar.

03:21:38.560 This was confirmed by the security cameras at the gatehouse of the Sunset Lakes located at 3,500 block.

03:21:42.360 Uh, so he went home.

03:21:44.120 Right.

03:21:44.500 He went home.

03:21:47.260 And they know this because of the surveillance cameras at his apartment.

03:21:50.940 So they know that Withers went home.

03:21:53.720 On 1026-118, a search warrant was issued in the case for the vehicle driven by Henry occupied with Thomas Williams and demons.

03:21:59.980 The vehicle is maintained in a secure storage at the Miramar PD.

03:22:02.980 The vehicle is owned by enterprise rental car and rented by the manager of demons, Jameson Frank Coy.

03:22:08.860 Who's Jameson Frank Coy, guys?

03:22:10.240 I'm almost certain this is track 100, his manager.

03:22:13.100 Okay.

03:22:14.120 The evidence was processed by, processed by CSI.

03:22:16.360 The vehicle had eight visible projectile holes on the right side of the vehicle.

03:22:19.900 There was also projectile hole on the rear left gate.

03:22:22.880 So they just talk about the thing.

03:22:24.340 Here's an important piece of evidence.

03:22:25.680 All evidence was collected and placed into evidence.

03:22:27.380 It should be noted that one single .40 caliber shell casing blazer as Smith & Wesson was found inside the vehicle on the floorboard of the left rear passenger side.

03:22:37.220 Please explain to me, guys, how you have a shell casing where Melly was sitting when you guys were allegedly hit in a drive-by shooting.

03:22:56.780 Makes zero physiological sense.

03:23:00.420 How would that happen?

03:23:02.700 Okay.

03:23:03.320 So they're poking holes all over Portland's story.

03:23:05.840 All right.

03:23:07.220 It was found inside a white plastic bag on the floorboard.

03:23:11.700 This was the seat that was utilized by demons as observed on video.

03:23:14.940 The single shell casing also contradicts statements made by Henry, stating this incident was a drive-by shooting.

03:23:20.260 Okay.

03:23:20.780 This supports evidence that the victims were shot inside the car first, and the protectile holes on the exterior was later staged in an effort to misdirect law enforcement investigation.

03:23:30.780 The next day, this AFIA made contact with Withers in Vero Beach.

03:23:33.980 After confronting Withers with the video evidence, Withers then changed his story.

03:23:39.200 Hmm.

03:23:39.880 Stop the cow. 1.00

03:23:42.360 He said Withers added demons was in a gray Jeep initially, but along the way, he got out of the Jeep and entered his red Mitsubishi.

03:23:48.840 Really?

03:23:49.840 Did he do that?

03:23:51.200 You are fake news.

03:23:52.540 Withers stated this occurred on I-75 near the Sheridan Street exit.

03:23:56.160 Withers stated he was contacted by demons via Snapchat to pull over on I-75 and meet up.

03:24:00.960 Hmm.

03:24:01.180 Okay.

03:24:02.260 So what do the police do?

03:24:04.220 They get a search warrant on cell phone sites used by demons, Withers, Williams, and Thomas.

03:24:09.880 W Police, bro.

03:24:11.020 What the f***?

03:24:13.100 They know that these niggas are cappin'. 1.00

03:24:16.780 So what do they do?

03:24:18.320 I don't believe y'all.

03:24:19.240 So I'm going to go ahead and do search warrants on all of your f***ing phones and see where you a**holes really were. 0.93

03:24:24.900 It was determined that Withers did proceed to the residence and arrived at said location around 3.49 a.m.

03:24:33.440 This was also confirmed by video at the gate to Sunset Lakes.

03:24:37.600 These records also showed a continuous route from the studio to the residence without a stop or delay in between.

03:24:44.740 Why is that important?

03:24:48.720 Because he said that he stopped, right, to pick him up on I-75.

03:24:55.840 But the phone location data shows that this niggas drove straight f***ing home. 1.00

03:25:02.400 Okay?

03:25:02.880 This is irrefutable.

03:25:04.080 To his gated community where it has a bunch of cameras catching his a** showing up there.

03:25:10.920 Okay?

03:25:11.720 He ain't stopped nowhere to pick Melly up.

03:25:14.420 Nowhere.

03:25:16.480 The cell site for the cell phones of Demas, Thomas, and Williams revealed they traveled west on Miramar Parkway

03:25:21.880 but turned north on southwest 84th Ave towards Pine Boulevard and then turned west on Pines Boulevard.

03:25:27.340 Video evidence shows the gray Jeep Compass traveling west of the 1900-19200 block at 353 and returned east at 406.

03:25:36.320 Cell site data from Demas' phone correspond with the actual crime scene location,

03:25:40.840 which is within the jurisdictional limits of Miramar, Broward County, Florida.

03:25:45.280 Williams' cell phone also registered at the same location as Demas.

03:25:50.100 And Williams is one of the victims.

03:25:51.820 The cell phone for Thomas registered on a cell tower near the crime scene

03:25:54.820 but separate and apart from the false reported drive-by location.

03:25:57.820 This evidence contradicts statements made by Henry at the hospital.

03:26:01.820 It shows a different path traveled.

03:26:04.660 Come on.

03:26:08.280 These records also don't show Demas meeting up with Withers and proceeding home with him.

03:26:14.820 Bro, how many times do I got to keep dunking, man?

03:26:17.660 Like, do I need to keep going, Chad?

03:26:20.660 Do I need to keep going here?

03:26:22.280 Remember, the cell phone location data is irrefutable, okay?

03:26:30.040 They went the extra step and pulled the surveillance footage just to show that his ass went straight home

03:26:36.160 and never stopped on no fucking I-75 to pick Melly up. 0.91

03:26:39.440 What does this mean?

03:26:40.660 This means that Melly was in the Jeep the entire time,

03:26:45.100 as shown on his vehicle, contrary to his friend's statements, man.

03:26:49.280 Bro, it's incredible to me how people just don't want to accept reality.

03:26:58.220 Y'all want me to keep going?

03:27:00.000 Like, should I keep going here?

03:27:03.680 It gets worse.

03:27:05.580 I could keep going or we can go back to law and order.

03:27:07.540 I'm going to give it to y'all.

03:27:08.960 Give me a one if you guys want me to just go back to law and order,

03:27:11.080 or two if you guys want me to keep reading this affidavit and show you guys the inconsistencies.

03:27:20.880 But it's up to y'all.

03:27:21.780 One, if you guys want me to go to the Law Network, the chat, the trial hasn't started yet,

03:27:25.880 or two, if you guys want me to keep reading this affidavit.

03:27:28.400 All right.

03:27:37.180 Before I keep reading this affidavit, you guys want the affidavit.

03:27:39.480 Before I do, let me see if the trial is back.

03:27:42.100 All right.

03:27:42.340 They got this random guy yapping.

03:27:43.940 Okay.

03:27:44.220 It ain't back yet.

03:27:45.880 All right.

03:27:46.900 I guess we're going to keep going.

03:27:49.860 T-Mobile cell phone records also show that Demons was traveling from Fort Lauderdale

03:27:54.560 in a western direction starting at 3.20 until the time of the shooting at 10.26, 8th, 2018.

03:28:01.240 This was consistent with video evidence obtained in this case.

03:28:04.420 The records show Demons traveling back in an eastern direction

03:28:07.200 with the location of the crime scene being in the path of travel.

03:28:10.520 It should be noted that the original crime scene identified by Henry was a false location.

03:28:16.320 Why was it a false location, guys?

03:28:17.920 Well, we know that the detectives scoured that area for evidence

03:28:22.620 and even closed that area down, but they didn't find shit.

03:28:26.280 No bullet casings, no glass, no blood, no residue, nothing.

03:28:31.040 Why did they find nothing?

03:28:32.480 Because Portland lied about where the shooting actually occurred.

03:28:36.620 But now that the police are armed with the cell phone location data,

03:28:40.320 let's see what they find out.

03:28:45.180 This investigation revealed that Henry intentionally lied to this investigator

03:28:48.300 and others to deceive and mislead the investigation

03:28:50.140 in an attempt to hide the incriminating truth

03:28:51.540 pertaining to the homicides of Thomas Williams.

03:28:53.480 The same cell records, now we're still talking about Mellie here,

03:28:56.340 show the cell phones of Demons and Williams moving around the area of I-75

03:28:59.180 and Pembroke Pines at 425 prior to entering the hospital at 435.

03:29:03.000 The records of Demons also indicate a departure from the vehicle at 432 a.m.

03:29:08.540 Video evidence shows Henry arriving at the hospital with Thomas and Williams

03:29:11.680 but without demons.

03:29:14.400 According to the CDR of Demons' cell phone,

03:29:16.960 he separated from the cell phone belonging to Williams around 432.

03:29:19.820 This was according to the records provided by T-Mobile via a search warrant issued

03:29:24.000 in reference to this case.

03:29:25.380 Evidence shows that Henry and Demons drove around for a period of time

03:29:29.600 with the two dead victims in their vehicle prior to entering the hospital.

03:29:33.480 This was in a calculated effort to establish the version of the incident

03:29:36.620 in an attempt to deceive law enforcement.

03:29:38.720 Video evidence obtained from the hospital shows Henry had changed his clothes.

03:29:42.460 When Henry departed the studio, he was wearing a black t-shirt.

03:29:45.460 Remember this, guys?

03:29:46.760 Remember what he's wearing?

03:29:47.860 Man, right here, he is, in fucking 4K, nigga wearing a t-shirt, okay? 1.00

03:29:53.980 But, evidence shows Henry and Demons, uh...

03:29:58.360 But, when he went to the hospital, he was wearing a black hoodie.

03:30:01.740 You know what? Let's go all the way with this shit.

03:30:03.260 Y'all niggas don't believe me? Look at this shit, bro. 1.00

03:30:06.080 YNW, Portland Hospital.

03:30:10.640 Oh, look, wait! Hold up! 0.67

03:30:13.520 Look, they got the car, on footage, driving around.

03:30:16.700 Look, there he is right there, wearing a fucking hoodie.

03:30:21.080 Bro, do I gotta keep showing y'all this in 4K?

03:30:23.200 Do I gotta...

03:30:23.820 Here he is!

03:30:29.220 1080p for y'all.

03:30:31.120 Change of clothes. I wonder why.

03:30:33.600 I wonder why.

03:30:35.320 Okay?

03:30:35.620 The black hoodie was later examined, and no forensic evidence was noted.

03:30:42.160 However, the black t-shirt worn under the hoodie by the Henry had a bloodstained pad on it, both front and back.

03:30:49.740 Okay?

03:30:50.040 On 11-21-2018, Officer D. Goins of the Fort Lauderdale K-9 unit with K-9 gunner was requested to assist in searching the area identified as suspect crime scene from the phone records within the jurisdiction of Miramar Broward County, Florida.

03:31:03.400 So, guys, the phone location data shows that they were in a random area in Miramar that Portland purposely did not tell the police about.

03:31:10.560 Okay?

03:31:10.820 So, let's see what happens when they go to this area.

03:31:16.620 The K-9 showed a reaction to an area on the side of the road approximately 870 feet from this nearest north-south running cross street.

03:31:27.040 A closer examination revealed a total of eight .40-caliber blazer Smith & Wesson shell casings on the ground next to the roadway in the shoulder.

03:31:37.980 Guys, what the...

03:31:41.980 Here's the vehicle, right?

03:31:58.780 One, two, three.

03:32:02.500 Hold on.

03:32:04.460 Trying to find this shit for y'all.

03:32:07.980 Get the fuck out of here.

03:32:26.540 Hold on.

03:32:28.340 Okay, let me refresh this shit.

03:32:30.680 Okay, y'all can see.

03:32:31.580 It was a snapshot, but you can see eight shots on the side of the vehicle.

03:32:35.080 And what did the police find at the crime scene?

03:32:37.460 Eight spent shell casings.

03:32:40.160 Okay?

03:32:40.940 And this .40-caliber Smith & Wesson matches...

03:32:45.020 What?

03:32:45.880 The Smith & Wesson that was found in the back left passenger seat in the back.

03:32:52.460 Same bullets.

03:32:53.800 Okay?

03:32:54.120 So, the bullets that were found at the scene was also the same bullets found in the car, man.

03:33:04.060 Two different shots...

03:33:05.420 Now, watch this.

03:33:06.700 Two different types of shards of glass were found in close proximity to the shell casings.

03:33:11.700 The first type of glass was a clear glass consistent with the front right passenger window of the vehicle.

03:33:16.640 And the second type was a tinted glass consistent with the right rear passenger side window of the aforementioned vehicle.

03:33:23.600 The crime scene was processed by CSI Curry.

03:33:25.860 The casings were sent to BSO.

03:33:27.660 A closer examination of a newly discovered crime scene revealed the vehicle was stopped at this location and weapons were discharged into the vehicle.

03:33:34.780 The vehicle made a U-turn and fled the area.

03:33:37.680 The other side of the road had shards of glass consistent with the passenger windows of the vehicle.

03:33:43.580 This was also a contradiction to the statement made by Henry on the morning of the shooting at the hospital to this affiant.

03:33:48.880 This was clearly not a drive-by shooting.

03:33:50.620 And no other vehicle pulled next to them and started shooting as stated by Henry.

03:33:54.160 This clearly shows a pattern of deceitfulness by Henry in an effort to mislead this investigation.

03:33:58.740 Bro, I mean, yo, do I got to keep cooking here, man?

03:34:05.940 Do I got to, bro.

03:34:10.080 Do you guys see now why I'm so convinced?

03:34:13.320 And I tell y'all that these law and order niggas are retarded. 1.00

03:34:17.200 Like, bro.

03:34:18.880 They went back to the scene that the cell phone showed that they were at and found eight spent cell casings.

03:34:25.640 I forgot about this, by the way, that matched one of the cell casings in the vehicle.

03:34:30.380 There were eight shots into the vehicle.

03:34:31.940 They found those same eight cell casings.

03:34:33.780 And they found the shards of glass that matched the fucking rental vehicle.

03:34:43.280 Gentlemen.

03:34:45.840 Now that y'all saw all this, you guys haven't even heard all the evidence yet.

03:34:49.340 What do y'all think?

03:34:50.580 Give me a one in the chat if you think Melly is guilty.

03:34:53.240 Give me a two in the chat if you think he's innocent.

03:34:54.600 Go ahead.

03:34:55.640 Oh, Lord.

03:34:59.120 I think we're back in the trial, though.

03:35:00.560 I want to see what y'all think.

03:35:02.260 I didn't even go into the full situation.

03:35:05.080 I just showed y'all some of it.

03:35:07.080 I didn't even go all the way and read the affidavit for y'all.

03:35:09.500 All the way.

03:35:15.040 Oh, Lord.

03:35:22.100 Jury entry.

03:35:22.700 Jury entry.

03:35:24.600 Jury entry.

03:35:25.640 They got it muted, right?

03:35:35.880 Oh, hold on.

03:35:36.440 My bad.

03:35:36.900 Thank you.

03:35:48.580 Thank you.

03:35:49.160 Please be seated.

03:35:49.860 Let the right reflect the importance of the defendant.

03:35:52.160 I'm just happy to assist the state attorney, the ladies and gentlemen, the jury.

03:35:55.160 I hope you all had a nice lunch.

03:35:57.860 Ladies and gentlemen, we both the state of the law and the case in chief.

03:36:01.100 I'm going to ask the attorney to call her next witness, please.

03:36:04.700 Rebecca, next year.

03:36:05.540 Good afternoon.

03:36:17.860 Good afternoon.

03:36:18.780 Good afternoon.

03:36:31.740 Good afternoon.

03:36:32.660 Good afternoon.

03:36:33.660 I'm going to ask you to call her.

03:36:34.920 Do you call him to swear our affirmative testimony to get in this case?

03:36:38.020 He sees the whole truth and nothing but our truth.

03:36:40.100 I do.

03:36:40.700 Please take your whole little name for the right.

03:36:42.520 My name is Rebecca McEagle.

03:36:43.880 All right, guys, while they're swearing her in, I just put a, what's it called, a poll in

03:36:54.800 the chat for y'all.

03:36:55.960 I want to see what you guys think.

03:36:57.260 Basically, did me reading the affidavit reveal info you didn't know and convince you?

03:37:03.540 And I didn't even finish it.

03:37:05.220 Yes or no.

03:37:06.880 And I want your honest opinion, guys.

03:37:08.880 Let's see what the chat says.

03:37:14.160 For those of you that are just joining us, this is the medical examiner in the Mellie

03:37:19.340 case is probably going to be the prosecution, the most important witness.

03:37:22.320 Let's get into it.

03:37:23.580 Ready to proceed?

03:37:28.520 Yes, sir.

03:37:29.500 You may.

03:37:30.260 Thank you.

03:37:32.200 Good afternoon, doctor.

03:37:33.360 How are you?

03:37:33.980 I'm good.

03:37:34.500 How are you?

03:37:35.040 Very well.

03:37:35.800 Can you please introduce yourself to the ladies and gentlemen of the jury?

03:37:39.000 Yes, my name is Rebecca McEagle.

03:37:41.080 And where do you work?

03:37:42.440 I work at the Park County Medical Examiner's Office.

03:37:45.660 What is your title at the Park County Medical Examiner's Office?

03:37:48.740 I'm the Chief Medical Examiner.

03:37:50.420 How long have you been the Chief Medical Examiner?

03:37:52.360 Right at two years.

03:37:53.700 Okay, so June of 2021?

03:37:55.980 June of 2021, I was interim.

03:37:58.440 July of 2021, it was official.

03:38:01.040 Okay, with your permission, doctor, you can do the math because I'm not good at it.

03:38:04.960 So please don't make me do it anymore.

03:38:06.620 Two years.

03:38:07.200 Okay, thank you.

03:38:08.780 Prior to being the Chief Medical Examiner, what other positions have you held at the Brown

03:38:13.740 Medical Examiner's Office?

03:38:14.820 So in 2010, I was a fellow, which is your last year of training before you become a forensic

03:38:23.860 pathologist.

03:38:24.940 From July 1st of 2010 to June 30th of 2011, I stayed at Howard County from July 1st of

03:38:34.920 2011 until November of 2015 as an associate medical examiner.

03:38:40.820 I went up to Palm Beach County and I was an associate medical examiner in Palm Beach County

03:38:46.220 for 18 months.

03:38:47.420 She's going over her training experience, which makes her qualified to testify.

03:38:53.760 17, and I've been an associate there until June of 2021.

03:38:58.980 So 13 years as a forensicologist, two years as chief.

03:39:05.620 So have you worked at any other medical examiner's offices as well on a temporary basis?

03:39:11.160 Yes.

03:39:11.820 So when I was an associate medical examiner, I worked to go for a long weekend and help

03:39:18.920 in other districts in Florida that are short-staffed.

03:39:22.460 So I did that in Volusia County and I did it in Pinellas Pasco County.

03:39:27.340 Can you describe to the ladies and gentlemen of the jury what does a forensic pathologist

03:39:32.300 do?

03:39:33.200 I can't.

03:39:33.620 We are charged with determining cause and manner of death in cases that come under the

03:39:41.980 jurisdiction of our office based on Florida statute and administrative code.

03:39:49.100 And what is the jurisdiction of the office that you currently work for as the chief of

03:39:53.460 my public examiner?

03:39:54.740 District 17, Priority County.

03:39:57.140 Okay.

03:39:58.140 You mentioned that you determine cause and manner of death.

03:40:01.900 What does that mean?

03:40:02.980 That's correct.

03:40:03.940 So cause of death is the initiating event that leads to death.

03:40:12.840 Okay.

03:40:13.240 If someone has cystic fibrosis, diabetes mellitus, if somebody falls off a ladder and gets a brain

03:40:21.300 bleed, if someone's in a motor vehicle accident and they pass away.

03:40:26.920 So that would be cause?

03:40:28.940 That's cause.

03:40:29.760 So what is the manner of death?

03:40:31.380 So manner of death, there are five.

03:40:34.560 Okay.

03:40:35.060 There's natural cystic fibrosis, diabetes, heart disease, accident.

03:40:42.360 You fall off that ladder and you get a brain bleed, motor vehicle, collision, suicide, which

03:40:49.860 is when a person takes their own life, so at their own hands, homicide, which for the forensic

03:40:58.360 pathologist is death at the hands of another.

03:41:00.880 And sometimes, no matter how many medical records we review, how many tests we do at the autopsy, we

03:41:09.380 do not have a clear cause or manner of death.

03:41:13.460 And in those cases, they're best classified as undetermined.

03:41:16.460 And in terms of how do you do that?

03:41:19.960 This is a really important testimony, guys.

03:41:21.960 Please pay close attention to this one, ma'am.

03:41:23.960 Determine cause and manner of death.

03:41:25.960 You do an autopsy.

03:41:26.960 You do an autopsy.

03:41:27.960 Can you define that?

03:41:28.960 I can.

03:41:29.960 So it means to look within.

03:41:32.960 So it's an examination after somebody passes away to determine what caused their death.

03:41:39.940 So you examine all the organs.

03:41:43.940 Any injuries, they might have medical records if they're available, if they're needed.

03:41:49.940 We can do toxicology testing.

03:41:52.940 We can do microbiology testing, so cultures, viral, bacterial.

03:41:58.940 Sometimes we do genetics.

03:42:00.940 It just depends on the circumstances surrounding the death, decides which path we take on what

03:42:08.940 tests need to be done at the time of death.

03:42:10.940 Okay.

03:42:11.940 So, Doctor, tell us a little bit about what training and education you had to become the

03:42:17.940 chief medical examiner for Broward County.

03:42:19.940 So I did my undergraduate degree in biology at the University of Texas.

03:42:24.940 I went to medical school, which is another four years, at the Health Science Center in Houston,

03:42:31.940 Texas.

03:42:32.940 That was also University of Texas.

03:42:34.940 I did a four-year anatomic and clinical pathology residency at Texas Tech University

03:42:39.940 in Lubbock, Texas, and then finished it with my one-year fellowship in Broward County.

03:42:44.940 And in terms of exposure to cadavers or dead bodies during your medical school years,

03:42:51.940 how often do you deal with that?

03:42:53.940 So the first 18 weeks of medical school is gross anatomy.

03:42:58.940 All right.

03:42:59.940 She's, again, I know this is monotonous, but she's doing this to establish the witness's

03:43:03.940 credibility.

03:43:04.940 I know she has a mask on, but you guys got to remember some of these medical professionals

03:43:07.940 are kooks, but that does not disqualify their expertise when it comes to being able to

03:43:11.940 testify to, you know, a murdered person's wounds and establishing if they were alive or

03:43:16.940 not when shots were fired.

03:43:18.940 You know, to be honest, like, that's very simple for someone of her caliber to decipher.

03:43:22.940 So she's probably overqualified for this testimony, even though she, you know, she's wearing 0.95

03:43:29.940 a mask, which is, you know, it is what it is.

03:43:34.940 So back when I, any uterus, any prostate, any cancer, all come to you in the pathology lab

03:43:44.940 at the hospital, and you then diagnose and stage the cancers or the appendicitis or fallopian tubes.

03:43:53.940 You know, anything that comes out of an operating room travels through the pathology apartment

03:43:58.940 at that hospital.

03:43:59.940 And did you work as a pathology assistant as well?

03:44:02.940 I did.

03:44:03.940 And what did that happen to you?

03:44:04.940 So during my residency, um, I would, so it's called grossing in, um, pathology specimens

03:44:11.940 at the private hospital in Lubbock.

03:44:14.940 Do you teach in the areas of forensic pathology?

03:44:17.940 We do.

03:44:18.940 And what have you found?

03:44:20.940 So we have, you know, public defender attorneys.

03:44:24.940 We have state attorneys.

03:44:25.940 We have private attorneys, law enforcement, um, medical students, EMTs, nurses, nurse practitioners,

03:44:34.940 all will come through our office.

03:44:36.940 For COVID they didn't, but we're starting that up again.

03:44:39.940 Um, so they can learn about disease, the natural disease process and also, you know, autopsies.

03:44:46.940 Do you participate in any boards or panels such as the child death review in Broward County?

03:44:50.940 I do.

03:44:51.940 I do the child death review, um, which means once a month when we talk about, um, children

03:44:56.940 that have died in Broward County.

03:44:58.940 I do the opioid death review once a month where we talk about, um, the drug overdoses that

03:45:05.940 are occurring in Broward County.

03:45:07.940 I do three separate trauma meetings.

03:45:10.940 Broward County has three trauma hospitals.

03:45:12.940 Um, once a month they have their separate hospital meeting.

03:45:16.940 And then the fourth meeting once a month with everybody together to talk about trauma cases.

03:45:21.940 Um, the people that passed away in Broward County due to trauma.

03:45:25.940 So in terms of the amount of time that you spend in the more actually doing autopsies now,

03:45:32.940 what percentage of your daily work with them?

03:45:34.940 Um, so I, basically I work every holiday, um, so that my docs can have long weekends and

03:45:41.940 holidays.

03:45:42.940 And then if we're especially busy in the morgue, I will pop in and do a case or two.

03:45:47.940 Okay.

03:45:48.940 So prior to becoming the chief medical examiner, what percentage of your work was actually performing

03:45:54.940 autopsies?

03:45:55.940 I don't know if we're 23 days a month.

03:45:59.940 We're usually on service six days a month.

03:46:02.940 You know, or we do probably five autopsies every time we're on service.

03:46:05.940 Plus whatever external examinations.

03:46:08.940 We don't have to autopsy every person that comes to the medical examiner's office.

03:46:13.940 Sometimes they come, especially in the fall and in the winter, um, are snowbirds.

03:46:19.940 You know, we usually have a very well documented medical history.

03:46:23.940 But if they die in Broward County without a physician in Broward County as their primary

03:46:28.940 care doctor, then they have to come to our office so somebody can sign their death certificate. 1.00

03:46:34.940 If you die in Broward County, your death certificate has to be signed by someone that's licensed

03:46:40.940 to practice medicine in the state of Florida.

03:46:42.940 So if they come from New York with six months worth of medicines and their primary care docs

03:46:47.940 in New York, because that's where they live half the year, then they have to come through 1.00

03:46:51.940 our office.

03:46:52.940 We make sure there's no trauma.

03:46:54.940 Um, and then we can review medical records and just do an external examination on those

03:47:00.940 people.

03:47:01.940 So are you a medical doctor?

03:47:02.940 I am.

03:47:03.940 And in what states are you licensed?

03:47:05.940 I am licensed in Florida, Texas, Mississippi, and New Jersey.

03:47:10.940 I know this is boring guys.

03:47:13.940 This might be annoying or whatever, but, uh, again, the prosecutors doing this on purpose

03:47:18.940 to establish, um, competency, professionalism, this, the subjects credibility.

03:47:26.940 So it can't be challenged later on.

03:47:27.940 So she has to go through this to show that this woman knows what the fuck she's talking 1.00

03:47:31.940 about because she's about to be their key witness.

03:47:34.940 So the prosecutor is going to prop her up and the highest level of authority to show all 0.99

03:47:38.940 her credentials to the jury, to show that she is absolutely overqualified to get the 0.76

03:47:44.940 testimony.

03:47:45.940 She's about to give guys. 1.00

03:47:46.940 This is, I mean, depending on the subject matter expert, depending on how important

03:47:51.940 their testimony is, will typically have the prosecutor asking the individual more qualifying

03:47:57.940 questions to show their level of expertise to build more and more credibility for the jury.

03:48:03.940 So it's going to be harder for the defense to attack her professional opinions later. 0.99

03:48:08.940 That's why she's doing this because she knows the defense is going to try to attack her 1.00

03:48:12.940 professional takes on things.

03:48:13.940 So she's doing this to establish a foundation that y'all can't fuck with this bitch. 1.00

03:48:17.940 She might be crazy with a mask, but she knows what she's talking about.

03:48:24.940 Every 10 years, you would have to take another board exam.

03:48:28.940 Now, a year ago, they decided that we could just answer 15 questions every three months.

03:48:35.940 And as long as we maintain a certain percentage on those questions, then we would not have to

03:48:41.940 take that.

03:48:42.940 Yo, shout out to Dr. B84 in the chat.

03:48:44.940 He's a doctor.

03:48:45.940 Uh, doc, when you hear her, let me know what you think of her credentials.

03:48:48.940 I'd like to get your take on it.

03:48:49.940 All right.

03:48:50.940 Um, cause some of the people here in the audience might not understand even myself, some of the

03:48:55.940 jargon that's being thrown here with, you know, certification, all this other stuff.

03:48:58.940 So let me know your thoughts.

03:49:01.940 Okay.

03:49:02.940 Okay.

03:49:03.940 So Dr. McDougall, with regards to the number of autopsies that you have performed during

03:49:07.940 your career, where are you at currently?

03:49:09.940 Over 3,000.

03:49:10.940 Have you had the opportunity to come to court before to testify in the, as an expert in the

03:49:16.940 area of forensic pathology?

03:49:17.940 I have.

03:49:18.940 How many times?

03:49:19.940 Over 100.

03:49:20.940 Over 100.

03:49:21.940 Over 100.

03:49:22.940 And what jurisdiction?

03:49:23.940 Uh, Palm Beach County and River County.

03:49:27.940 You're at this time, I would send your counselor for Blood Island in the area of expertise?

03:49:32.940 I have no questions.

03:49:34.940 Thank you.

03:49:35.940 Thank you.

03:49:36.940 Okay.

03:49:37.940 So you mentioned earlier that there's a definition as to homicide for a forensic pathologist.

03:49:42.940 That's correct.

03:49:43.940 That's correct.

03:49:44.940 Is that a murder?

03:49:45.940 The death at the beginning is a murder to me.

03:49:47.940 Totally.

03:49:48.940 Okay.

03:49:49.940 Did you have an opportunity to become involved in a investigation under the Broward Medical

03:49:54.940 Examiner's Office case?

03:49:56.940 All right.

03:49:57.940 So, boom.

03:49:58.940 You got another doctor verifying her credibility.

03:49:59.940 It's very extensive like mine.

03:50:00.940 Basically, she went to medical school residency and fellowship and his license to practice

03:50:03.940 medicine independently.

03:50:04.940 Bam.

03:50:05.940 There you go, guys.

03:50:06.940 December 2018-3118.

03:50:09.940 I did.

03:50:10.940 What was your involvement?

03:50:12.940 So, I was the medical exam on service that day.

03:50:19.940 So, this case came in at like 4.45 in the morning, I believe, 5 o'clock in the morning.

03:50:25.940 So, it becomes my case.

03:50:27.940 It does anything before 7 a.m. as morning.

03:50:31.940 There was a double homicide.

03:50:34.940 Broward County Medical Examiner's Office has a fellowship program.

03:50:38.940 I was one of the fellows.

03:50:40.940 And so, I took one of the cases.

03:50:45.940 And our fellow Dr. Sauter took the other case, the companion case in this case.

03:50:52.940 Okay.

03:50:53.940 So, I did the autopsy on Mr. Lerbs.

03:50:55.940 So, which in?

03:50:56.940 Excuse me.

03:50:57.940 Identity.

03:50:58.940 Thank you.

03:50:59.940 Okay.

03:51:00.940 So, you said you performed the autopsy individual who later became known to as Anthony Williams.

03:51:02.940 That's correct.

03:51:03.940 So, you talked about the fellowship.

03:51:04.940 And that you said it was the last year for you?

03:51:05.940 That's correct.

03:51:06.940 In terms of what is your role in supervising the fellow?

03:51:10.940 So, there are five associate medical examiners in my office and one deputy chief medical examiner.

03:51:15.940 So, when the fellow is on service with you, it is your responsibility to be there.

03:51:20.940 July and August, you're real close.

03:51:21.940 Right?

03:51:22.940 Because they're just starting.

03:51:23.940 They've done probably 50 autopsies.

03:51:24.940 They're just starting.

03:51:25.940 They've done probably 50 autopsies in their residency.

03:51:26.940 So, they're just starting.

03:51:27.940 They're just starting.

03:51:28.940 They're just starting.

03:51:29.940 They're just starting.

03:51:30.940 They've done probably 50 autopsies in their residency.

03:51:31.940 So, there are five associate medical examiners in my office and one deputy chief medical examiner.

03:51:33.940 So, when the fellow is on service with you, it is your responsibility to be there.

03:51:42.940 July and August, you're real close.

03:51:45.940 Right?

03:51:46.940 Because they're just starting.

03:51:47.940 They've done probably 50 autopsies in their residency.

03:51:53.940 So, the first month or two, you're right there by them.

03:51:57.940 But as they graduate and show you that they're competent, that they know what they're doing,

03:52:02.940 then they will do their autopsies and come to you if they have any questions.

03:52:07.940 You're also responsible for reviewing their report before it's signed out.

03:52:12.940 Okay.

03:52:13.940 So, in this case with regards to the autopsies of Anthony Williams, were there photographs that were taken?

03:52:19.940 There were.

03:52:20.940 So, would the photographs help explain and illustrate to the ladies and gentlemen of the jury the process and how that is under the .

03:52:27.940 Okay.

03:52:28.940 So, you're showing what's been two weeks to jump to the defense council as marked as a triple Z for identification purposes only.

03:52:38.940 Dr. McDougal, did you have an opportunity to look through those photos?

03:52:41.940 I did.

03:52:42.940 I did.

03:52:43.940 I did.

03:52:44.940 Did they fairly and accurately depict the autopsy of one Anthony Williams on October 26th of 2018?

03:52:49.940 They do.

03:52:50.940 Did they reflect the Broward County Medical Examiner's Office case number that was assigned?

03:52:55.940 They do.

03:52:56.940 Here at this time, the state would request to remove state triple Z in at state 73.

03:53:01.940 Can you have the action on our first series?

03:53:03.940 Not previously right now.

03:53:04.940 Can you have the action on our first series?

03:53:05.940 Not previously right now.

03:53:06.940 Can you have the action voted?

03:53:07.940 They'll be in through. 0.60

03:53:08.940 Go vote.

03:53:09.940 So, now they are composite 23 photos and one USB.

03:53:13.940 State triple Z in at state 72.

03:53:14.940 I'm sorry.

03:53:15.940 What now?

03:53:16.940 72.

03:53:17.940 Thank you.

03:53:18.940 So, Doctor, before we get into the actual photos, can you explain what the seeing visit

03:53:35.940 is?

03:53:36.940 I can.

03:53:38.940 So, the medical examiner by statute and administrative code has jurisdiction over a body.

03:53:46.940 Okay?

03:53:47.940 So, when a decedent passes away on the scene, the medical examiner and or the investigator

03:53:57.940 will go to that scene.

03:54:00.940 These individuals were transported to the hospital.

03:54:04.940 They died at the hospital.

03:54:05.940 So, therefore, at the time of the examination, there was no scene to visit.

03:54:10.940 Okay.

03:54:11.940 So, I'm going to go to the board and how do you receive the body of Mr. Williams?

03:54:16.940 So, when the body leaves the hospital, it actually, the two zippers on the bag get a seal put through

03:54:26.940 them.

03:54:27.940 It comes to our office.

03:54:29.940 And this was actually the same morning.

03:54:31.940 So, these two, this individual came straight into our office and then probably within an hour

03:54:38.940 or two was ready to be examined.

03:54:41.940 So, the bag is sealed at the hospital, comes to our office.

03:54:48.940 The very first photograph we take is a photograph of that seal so we can show that it's, it's

03:54:54.940 still intact and it must be broken by the medical examiner on duty.

03:55:00.940 Okay.

03:55:01.940 And did you receive it from the body of Mr. Williams in this way?

03:55:04.940 I did.

03:55:05.940 Okay.

03:55:06.940 What, in the picture that we're looking at, which is, and we put on number two as numbers

03:55:10.940 for the purposes of the record, what does this picture show?

03:55:15.940 So, this is one end of the body bag with the two zippers in place with the red seal between

03:55:22.940 it, still intact.

03:55:26.940 That case number 18-3118.

03:55:30.940 So, that is the 3,118th case for the medical exam in the year 2018.

03:55:39.940 That is a unique identifying number for this case and will be in every photograph that is

03:55:46.940 taken for this examination.

03:55:48.940 For the purposes of orientation, the letters, the top of the A in almost each photograph,

03:55:56.940 what direction does it point towards?

03:55:58.940 So, the letters should point towards the head.

03:56:00.940 Okay.

03:56:01.940 So, every photograph that we see, the case number, to look at it properly, the head

03:56:09.940 should be above the number when you're looking at it the right way.

03:56:13.940 Okay.

03:56:14.940 So, prior to opening the bag, is there a scan or some sort of x-ray system?

03:56:20.940 So, Broward County is lucky enough to have what's called a LODOX.

03:56:26.940 Okay.

03:56:27.940 It's low radiation full body x-ray.

03:56:31.940 So, every single case that comes into our office gets both an AP, which is the front 0.59

03:56:38.940 to back, and a lateral, which is from the side, x-ray.

03:56:43.940 So, we have those.

03:56:44.940 Okay.

03:56:45.940 So, you said AP.

03:56:46.940 I know you know what that means.

03:56:48.940 But, if you could describe some ladies and gentlemen and enjoy what that means.

03:56:51.940 So, the anterior and posterior, so the beam of the radiation is going through.

03:56:55.940 When you look at the body, it's the way you would see.

03:56:59.940 I'm not asleep, motherfuckers.

03:57:00.940 I just want y'all to pay attention to what she's talking about.

03:57:02.940 I am here, goddammit.

03:57:04.940 I ain't going nowhere, okay?

03:57:06.940 All right?

03:57:07.940 I'm not fucking leaving!

03:57:08.940 The show goes on!

03:57:09.940 This is my home!

03:57:10.940 They're going to need a fucking wrecking ball to take me out of here!

03:57:24.940 Don't underestimate me, motherfuckers.

03:57:26.940 The body.

03:57:27.940 Then we do one that's a lateral, where the beam goes...

03:57:31.940 Like the video ninjas.

03:57:33.940 Through the side of the body, so we get the side.

03:57:35.940 That allows us, especially if we're looking for foreign objects in a body.

03:57:40.940 If I only have a picture front to back, I can tell about where it is, front to back.

03:57:46.940 But where is it?

03:57:48.940 Is it right up here, or is it closer to the back of the body?

03:57:52.940 So, we have a lateral x-ray that we take.

03:57:54.940 So, I can see where in space, in 2D, not as good as 3D, right?

03:57:59.940 But I had a 2D orientation of where that form of an object might be.

03:58:03.940 Okay.

03:58:04.940 In terms of when you're describing your findings, you do them in anatomical positions.

03:58:09.940 Yes.

03:58:10.940 And could you describe what that is to the length of a living?

03:58:13.940 I can.

03:58:14.940 Can I show you?

03:58:15.940 Please.

03:58:16.940 If that would help.

03:58:17.940 Can I just stand up?

03:58:18.940 Yes, sir.

03:58:19.940 What kind of position is with your hands out like this, pulmonary surface forward?

03:58:25.940 Just like this.

03:58:26.940 When you are describing your findings in anatomical position, are you in any way suggesting that

03:58:32.940 was the position of the body within when any injuries or defects were put to the pulmonary?

03:58:37.940 I am not.

03:58:38.940 Okay.

03:58:39.940 To go back before we go into the photos of the autopsy itself, could you describe to the ladies

03:58:44.940 and gentlemen the journey, what you do during an autopsy?

03:58:49.940 Sure.

03:58:50.940 So the first thing that the pathologist will do is break that seal.

03:58:52.940 Don't worry, guys.

03:58:53.940 We're going to get to the picture soon.

03:58:54.940 She's breaking down what she does at the autopsy before they show the photos. 0.90

03:58:58.940 Seal.

03:58:59.940 Okay.

03:59:00.940 That seal is broken.

03:59:01.940 The bag is opened.

03:59:02.940 And we take what we call overall photographs.

03:59:05.940 These are photographs that are taken before we do anything to the body.

03:59:09.940 Before we move the body.

03:59:10.940 Before we clean the body.

03:59:12.940 We take photographs so we can see it as is.

03:59:16.940 Once that is done, then we'll take the body out of the body bag.

03:59:21.940 We will look for any identifying features.

03:59:25.940 So scars, tattoos, defects.

03:59:28.940 We take pictures of the hands as they are.

03:59:32.940 Once we're satisfied with those photographs, then we will clean the body.

03:59:37.940 And once the body is clean, then we will take overall photographs again with the body cleaned.

03:59:43.940 Then we will take both an orientation shot and a close-up shot of any defects, scars, or identifying marks.

03:59:53.940 Okay.

03:59:54.940 So after you've done, it sounds like an external examination, is there another part of the autopsy procedure?

04:00:00.940 So that we do the internal examination.

04:00:02.940 Okay.

04:00:03.940 And when you're doing the internal examination, what do you do?

04:00:05.940 So we're looking for any kind of injury, disease, anything that's abnormal, right?

04:00:12.940 Also want to look at what is normal.

04:00:14.940 So we look at all of the organs, weigh all the organs, and complete our exam.

04:00:21.940 Okay.

04:00:22.940 So I'm going to go back to what was labeled as photo one.

04:00:28.940 And so if we can describe what we are looking at here on photo one.

04:00:34.940 So this is the...

04:00:37.940 And here we go.

04:00:41.940 AP, or anterior, posterior, full body x-ray.

04:00:46.940 That was taken before the bag was opened.

04:00:49.940 So in terms of the different colors and things that we are looking at in this, what do you see that is medically significant?

04:00:56.940 I'm not a radiologist, but what I will tell you is that this is a projectile, and there are projectile fragments in that.

04:01:11.940 This is dental restorations.

04:01:17.940 Don't tell me law crime is pussing out.

04:01:19.940 I'm not going to put it on here.

04:01:21.940 In terms of any of the other things on this that are...

04:01:26.940 These are all buttons, I think, from the hospital again.

04:01:30.940 Okay.

04:01:31.940 So it's just artifacts from the clothing that he's wearing.

04:01:34.940 So going on to the next photo here.

04:01:38.940 I'm just going to zoom in just a little bit.

04:01:42.940 What is this picture showing?

04:01:44.940 So this is one of our overall photographs that we take once the body has been cleaned.

04:01:50.940 What you can see in this photograph is what later becomes known as an entrance gunshot wound, a defect of circular...

04:01:58.940 Law of crime is probably debating if they're going to show this, so let's see what happens.

04:02:02.940 ...defect to the middle of the chest.

04:02:04.940 And that was...

04:02:07.940 ...dirty pictures of the hands, and then we take a clean picture of the hands.

04:02:17.940 What are we looking at here?

04:02:19.940 And...

04:02:20.940 ...wounds are usually wounds that are on the extremities.

04:02:25.940 They don't have to be on the hands.

04:02:27.940 They're most commonly on the hands.

04:02:29.940 They can be on the forearms.

04:02:31.940 They can be on the shins.

04:02:33.940 Any part of your extremities that can move to block your core from any kinds of injuries.

04:02:41.940 Okay, so you...

04:02:43.940 Law of crime, I guess they're scared.

04:02:45.940 ...your legs, your arms, or your hands will get in the way of something that's coming out.

04:02:51.940 All right, guys, I'm going to look for another stream that's showing the photos.

04:02:55.940 If anyone finds it, let me know in the chat.

04:02:58.940 I guarantee there's got to be other people that are covering this case that might be not pussies to show the photos. 0.99

04:03:03.940 So let me know.

04:03:04.940 Throw it in the chat if you guys find one.

04:03:06.940 But I'm going to search on the side while I keep this rolling.

04:03:09.940 Okay.

04:03:10.940 So moving on to photograph number nine.

04:03:13.940 Side of the right hand, no injuries.

04:03:16.940 And photograph number 10.

04:03:19.940 So the inside of the right hand, no injuries.

04:03:24.940 So we're going to move on to what's been labeled as entrance wound B.

04:03:32.940 Can you describe with the ladies and gentlemen the jury where this wound on this gunshot wound B entrance wound is?

04:03:40.940 So it's in the middle of the chest.

04:03:42.940 Okay.

04:03:43.940 In terms of, do you document in your report the distance from the top of the head?

04:03:48.940 I do.

04:03:49.940 I don't memorize that.

04:03:51.940 Do you need to refresh your recommendation?

04:03:54.940 Please.

04:03:55.940 So that wound is 19 and a quarter inches below the top of the head.

04:04:01.940 And in terms of the left to right distance, how far is that?

04:04:05.940 It's one half inch right of the anterior midline.

04:04:10.940 And can you define for the ladies and gentlemen of the jury what is a perforating gunshot wound?

04:04:17.940 I can.

04:04:18.940 So for gunshot wounds, for forensic knowledge, there's two kinds.

04:04:21.940 There's a penetrating gunshot wound.

04:04:24.940 Goes in.

04:04:25.940 Doesn't come out.

04:04:26.940 Penetrates.

04:04:27.940 I recover a projectile.

04:04:29.940 Then there's a perforating gunshot wound.

04:04:32.940 It perforates the body.

04:04:34.940 I have an entrance, and I have an exit, and I don't collect a projectile.

04:04:39.940 And so Dr. Kugel, so the ladies and gentlemen of the jury have an idea.

04:04:43.940 How many autopsies have you done in which gunshot wounds have been a cause of death?

04:04:49.940 Probably 600 or 700.

04:04:56.940 The gunshot wound that we're looking at right here, is there anything about soot, stippling,

04:05:07.940 or muzzle inference?

04:05:09.940 So, this is an...

04:05:10.940 So, in forensic pathology, we have three...

04:05:14.940 Snippling, guys, the burn marks that get on the skin after someone is shot close contact.

04:05:20.940 Different ranges of fire.

04:05:24.940 And for gunshot wounds, we are tasked with trying to determine the range of fire.

04:05:31.940 There is what's called a contact gunshot wound, which means that the muzzle...

04:05:36.940 Yeah, Fed reacts to the pussy. 1.00

04:05:38.940 If I was...

04:05:39.940 Sorry, I said Fed reacts.

04:05:40.940 That's how tired I am.

04:05:41.940 Law of crime is pussy, bro. 1.00

04:05:42.940 If it was me, I would show y'all this shit, man.

04:05:44.940 If I had the photos, I would say whatever.

04:05:46.940 Give me the demonetization.

04:05:48.940 I'll show you all the pics.

04:05:49.940 Put the guns up against the target when the gun goes off.

04:05:54.940 In those cases, you have a nice, round deposition of...

04:06:00.940 Telebundo is really showing it?

04:06:02.940 Y'all capping, bro.

04:06:03.940 Y'all capping.

04:06:04.940 If somebody got the links, throw it in the chat.

04:06:06.940 ...on the entrance wound.

04:06:09.940 The next is called intermediate.

04:06:13.940 With an intermediate gunshot wound, if you take your gunshot wound,

04:06:18.940 you take your target and your gun, and you move away from your target.

04:06:24.940 Okay?

04:06:25.940 So you're far enough away now that you're not going to leave a nice ring of foot.

04:06:29.940 You're going to get something that's called stipple.

04:06:31.940 Okay?

04:06:32.940 So the gunpowder coming out of the gun will tattoo the skin.

04:06:36.940 You will get a nice pattern, a spray of stipple on the skin.

04:06:42.940 Those are intermediate gunshot wounds.

04:06:45.940 With indeterminate gunshot wounds, that either means that the muzzle of the gun is far enough

04:06:55.940 away from the target that all the gunpowder falls off before the protectile hits the body.

04:07:02.940 Or, there's something in the way of the skin, between the skin and the weapon,

04:07:10.940 that any evidence of close range firing would be on that clothing.

04:07:16.940 Okay?

04:07:17.940 If you have someone that's shot in the chest, you'd want to look for evidence of close range firing

04:07:22.940 on what they're wearing, because it has to go through that before it hits the body.

04:07:27.940 And that gunpowder is not going to get to the skin, because the clothes are in the way.

04:07:31.940 Okay.

04:07:32.940 And so, doctor, I want to make sure I understand, on intermediate?

04:07:36.940 Yep.

04:07:37.940 On that, do you do any range of fire testing?

04:07:40.940 On clothing?

04:07:41.940 No.

04:07:42.940 What about on skin or human body?

04:07:43.940 You have to do it?

04:07:44.940 No.

04:07:45.940 You have to do it on clothing.

04:07:46.940 Is any of that your area of expertise where you would recreate that?

04:07:50.940 On clothing?

04:07:51.940 Yes.

04:07:52.940 No.

04:07:53.940 And on intermediate gunshot wounds, is there a textbook answer for distance?

04:07:58.940 There is a textbook answer.

04:07:59.940 And what would that be?

04:08:00.940 So, the textbook answer is three inches to three feet.

04:08:05.940 In terms of without having a specific weapon, can you get any more...

04:08:10.940 Exactly.

04:08:11.940 The best way to get the distance on a certain person would be to take the exact

04:08:23.940 same gun, with the exact same ammunition, with a white sheet of paper, right?

04:08:30.940 Until you get far enough away that the distance of your simple pattern on your paper matches

04:08:35.940 what it was on the skin.

04:08:37.940 If you don't have a pattern, can you do that recreation?

04:08:42.940 Cannot.

04:08:43.940 No.

04:08:44.940 So, continuing on talking about the lit wound label B, how can you tell if that is an entrance

04:08:52.940 versus an exit wound?

04:08:54.940 So, entrance wounds classically have something called a rhythm of abrasion.

04:09:00.940 Okay.

04:09:01.940 So, on this particular French Hutton label B, I have a marginal rhythm of abrasion.

04:09:09.940 I'm going to go forward now to the...

04:09:11.940 I can.

04:09:12.940 Yeah.

04:09:13.940 For B, I'm in the middle.

04:09:14.940 So, this is my rhythm of abrasion.

04:09:17.940 Right here.

04:09:18.940 Okay.

04:09:19.940 That's a little bit of 12, for the record.

04:09:22.940 So, the entrance is right here, and the rim of abrasion is this piece of...

04:09:29.940 the abrasion on the skin right there.

04:09:31.940 So, Dr. McDowell, why is there more rim of abrasion on one side than the other?

04:09:36.940 So, when you're looking at gunshot wounds, what that tells you is that the projectile

04:09:41.940 is coming from that side of the body.

04:09:44.940 Okay.

04:09:45.940 So, when a projectile...

04:09:46.940 All right, guys.

04:09:47.940 Pay attention.

04:09:48.940 Now, she's going to talk about wound patterns in the side.

04:09:49.940 Okay.

04:09:50.940 This will be very important.

04:09:51.940 If it hits a target skin straight on, you'll get what's called a circumferential rim of abrasion,

04:09:59.940 which means the rim of abrasion goes all the way around the circle.

04:10:02.940 Okay.

04:10:03.940 If it enters from the right side of the body at an angle, and then the right side of that

04:10:10.940 circular gunshot wound is going to have a marginal abrasion.

04:10:13.940 If it enters from the bottom, that abrasion is going to be along the bottom.

04:10:18.940 Top, the rim of abrasion will be on the cuff.

04:10:21.940 Left-hand side, the rim of abrasion will be on the left-hand side.

04:10:24.940 Okay.

04:10:25.940 So, I'm going to go back to the previous photo.

04:10:27.940 If you could then explain and show on this what direction the projectile is coming from.

04:10:32.940 So, the projectile is coming from his right-hand side.

04:10:35.940 And you're turning anatomical position?

04:10:37.940 In anatomical position.

04:10:38.940 That's correct.

04:10:39.940 Okay.

04:10:40.940 Okay.

04:10:41.940 Moving on to the next photo here, which is labeled as photo number 14 on this.

04:10:50.940 What are we looking at in photo number 14?

04:10:53.940 So, on the top of his right shoulder is the third entrance gunshot wound.

04:10:58.940 And the third entrance gunshot wound, was that given a label?

04:11:03.940 It was a label.

04:11:05.940 Is that C?

04:11:06.940 It's a C, yes.

04:11:07.940 Go.

04:11:08.940 The victim's head is up there by seven.

04:11:11.940 Does that mean he was seven foot tall?

04:11:14.940 It depends on where his feet are.

04:11:16.940 Do you document the height and weight of the decedent when he's first run in?

04:11:21.940 We do.

04:11:22.940 And what was for Mr. Williams?

04:11:24.940 So, he's 76 inches in length and 172 pounds.

04:11:30.940 And can you convert that 76 inches to feet, please?

04:11:33.940 I can.

04:11:34.940 It's six feet, four inches in length.

04:11:36.940 Okay.

04:11:37.940 In terms of the photo that we're looking at here, on this particular wound, which is later assigned

04:11:49.940 the label of C, what type of wound is this?

04:11:53.940 Penetrating or perforating?

04:11:55.940 So, this is a penetrating, so it has an entrance room to nowhere.

04:11:59.940 Man, I really wish that we had these photos, man.

04:12:01.940 Law and crime, bro.

04:12:02.940 They're soft, bro.

04:12:03.940 They're scared to fucking get demonetized properly.

04:12:06.940 That's what it is.

04:12:07.940 Is that it?

04:12:08.940 Yes.

04:12:09.940 And so, it's also an entrance wound.

04:12:12.940 Sometimes, you just gotta do it for the people, man.

04:12:14.940 Like, these dudes out here are bulls in mind.

04:12:19.940 Come on, man.

04:12:21.940 This, these dudes is a big L. 1.00

04:12:23.940 Wrong.

04:12:24.940 Going on to what's labeled as A. Can you explain to the ladies and gentlemen of the jury where

04:12:33.940 is this wound A?

04:12:35.940 I can, so.

04:12:36.940 Correct.

04:12:37.940 Is that consistent with the medical examiner's office number that was assigned for the

04:12:42.940 autopsy of Anthony Williams?

04:12:43.940 It is.

04:12:44.940 Okay.

04:12:45.940 Prior to coming into court today, did you have an opportunity to place markings on this

04:12:49.940 styrofoam head to approximate the locations of the wounds on Mr. Williams?

04:12:55.940 I did.

04:12:56.940 And would this help and assist in demonstrating to the jury what, where those wounds were in

04:13:02.940 the position on those photographs?

04:13:04.940 They will, they will show the wound path as well.

04:13:06.940 Okay.

04:13:07.940 So, Your Honor, this might state pass the window into the cinema.

04:13:10.940 Nah, they wouldn't strike the channel.

04:13:11.940 They would just, uh, they would just, like, probably give it an age restriction because

04:13:15.940 it's, it's legal, bro.

04:13:16.940 They wouldn't, in this room, the detective said they would strike the channel.

04:13:18.940 No, they wouldn't, bro.

04:13:19.940 It's just that they're scared because they don't want to get a yellow check.

04:13:26.940 But sometimes I say, fuck it.

04:13:27.940 I show shit to y'all, even if it's going to get me yellow check, because sometimes it's

04:13:31.940 worth it.

04:13:32.940 And shit like this, it would be worth it.

04:13:33.940 To assist the witness in explaining or illustrating her testimony.

04:13:37.940 As I said, the testimony of the witness is the evidence.

04:13:41.940 This is positive.

04:13:42.940 It is, uh, not to be considered by U.S. evidence in the case unless it's delayed or received

04:13:48.940 in evidence.

04:13:49.940 Only items that are actually received in evidence would be, uh, going back with you, uh, to the

04:13:54.940 jury during deliberations.

04:13:56.940 Okay.

04:13:57.940 And so, Dr. McDougal, could be kind enough to show where on that head would be entrance wound

04:14:02.940 A.

04:14:03.940 So the approximate, um, position of that entrance wound is about right here.

04:14:12.940 And you said this was a what type of gunshot wound?

04:14:15.940 This is a perforating gunshot wound, which means I have an entrance and an exit.

04:14:21.940 Yeah, look, yeah, they're the only ones streaming this shit, which kind of sucks.

04:14:26.940 And where was that exit?

04:14:28.940 The exit is on the right temporal scalp.

04:14:34.940 And how is, I'm going to skip ahead to that exit, which is E.

04:14:41.940 That's correct.

04:14:42.940 Okay.

04:14:43.940 And so is E shown on there?

04:14:46.940 The approximate location of the exit wound on this damage, which is, is an upright turn.

04:14:52.940 Okay.

04:14:53.940 For the wounds A to E, as labeled on the photos, was that wound fatal?

04:15:00.940 It is a fatal wound, yes.

04:15:02.940 What injuries were associated with the wound trap of A to E?

04:15:06.940 So that projectile goes through the scalp, um, the skull, the dura matter, 0.99

04:15:15.940 the brain.

04:15:16.940 There is subgalial, subdural, and subarachnoid hemorrhage, and multiple fractures of the bones

04:15:26.940 of the skull.

04:15:27.940 Okay.

04:15:28.940 So a lot of medical terms.

04:15:30.940 Let's slow down and define them.

04:15:32.940 So what is a subgalial hemorrhage?

04:15:36.940 Okay.

04:15:37.940 So your scalp, right, your head, the skin that's on your head, when you reflect it back, okay,

04:15:46.940 the underside of that is called the galia.

04:15:50.940 Okay.

04:15:51.940 So if you have hemorrhage in the underside of the skin on your head, that's a subgalial hemorrhage.

04:15:59.940 When you, inside your head is your brain.

04:16:06.940 Yo, Dr. B, give us your take on this, man.

04:16:08.940 Um, on this testimony.

04:16:09.940 Like, go ahead and comment.

04:16:10.940 I'll highlight your comments.

04:16:11.940 Uh, cause we, we got an actual doctor in the house.

04:16:13.940 So I'd like to see what you think as well.

04:16:14.940 Okay.

04:16:15.940 All right.

04:16:16.940 Well, you have a cover on your brain that is called dura matter.

04:16:21.940 Okay.

04:16:22.940 So you have your brain, you have this dura matter, and then your skull. 0.69

04:16:28.940 All right.

04:16:29.940 So if I have subdural hemorrhage, sub means underneath, I have blood between the brain and the dura.

04:16:40.940 It's an arachnoid hemorrhage.

04:16:43.940 The arachnoid is a very fine membrane that covers the brain.

04:16:49.940 And that is hemorrhage in that space.

04:16:52.940 So there are different spaces within the cranial cavity where blood collects.

04:16:58.940 Dr. B84 says she's very thorough right now.

04:17:00.940 If you could just make sure that that word is defined in your context as a forensic pathologist.

04:17:06.940 So hemorrhage means there's bleeding.

04:17:08.940 All of us non-doctors here, Dr. B84 says she's explaining how a gun causes a head bleed.

04:17:12.940 Thank you, my friend.

04:17:13.940 Like how you bump into something or have some sort of trauma.

04:17:17.940 Okay.

04:17:18.940 So I'm going to go back to wound A.

04:17:21.940 So I'm going to go back to that photo.

04:17:23.940 Shout out to King Life.

04:17:25.940 Fnet mods are qualified in many discipline facts.

04:17:27.940 On A, is there an abrasion margin?

04:17:33.940 There's a very small abrasion margin around that wound.

04:17:36.940 And is it concentric?

04:17:38.940 It is.

04:17:39.940 And what does that mean?

04:17:40.940 It means it's all the way around the whole thing as opposed to a marginal abrasion, which

04:17:47.940 we saw before, which is just on one part of the entrance wound.

04:17:50.940 This abrasion encompasses the whole entrance wound.

04:17:53.940 The wound track or pattern, were there fragments that were recovered along this wound track?

04:18:05.940 There were.

04:18:06.940 The current council was in previous remarks at States quadruple B.

04:18:15.940 Dr. Madrigal, prior to coming into court today, did you have the opportunity to review the items

04:18:20.940 inside States quadruple B outside of the presence of the jury?

04:18:24.940 I did.

04:18:25.940 Do you recognize what is in there?

04:18:26.940 I do.

04:18:27.940 What is it?

04:18:28.940 Those are the projectile fried with separate collected at the autopsy.

04:18:31.940 And are they in the same or essentially same condition as when they were collected?

04:18:34.940 They are.

04:18:35.940 Do you have your initials on the evidence?

04:18:37.940 Take on the outside.

04:18:38.940 I do.

04:18:39.940 You're at this time, the state would request to move States quadruple B in at State 74.

04:18:44.940 Is there any objection?

04:18:45.940 No, sir.

04:18:46.940 It'll be admitted.

04:18:47.940 States quadruple B will be marked States 74.

04:18:52.940 So they're admitting evidence in right now, guys.

04:18:55.940 That's where all these funny numbers and everything else comes in.

04:18:57.940 And you can see that.

04:18:58.940 I think she signed and sealed it for the chain of custody evidence.

04:19:01.940 So that's what they're doing right now.

04:19:02.940 The entrance versus Site E.

04:19:04.940 Because it has an abrasion margin.

04:19:07.940 Abrasions are usually only associated with entrance wounds.

04:19:12.940 Exit wounds are more commonly lacerated.

04:19:15.940 And when we look at wound E, we'll see that it's a lacerated defect.

04:19:21.940 In terms of any sort of soot, stippling, did you note that on this particular injury?

04:19:32.940 Okay.

04:19:33.940 So I called the range of fire on this case indeterminate.

04:19:39.940 Okay.

04:19:40.940 There are, can you go out?

04:19:43.940 Sure.

04:19:44.940 Sure.

04:19:45.940 I just want to show.

04:19:46.940 So, you know, indeterminate, indeterminate does not mean distant.

04:19:52.940 Indeterminate means I don't know.

04:19:55.940 So, you know, you could say, that might be stipple, that little defect right there.

04:20:04.940 That might be stipple.

04:20:06.940 But that's right around the hair follicle.

04:20:09.940 And if you look over here, there are areas where you can tell they're scarring.

04:20:15.940 So when you look at the nape of the neck, where a gentleman gets shaved, you get ingrown hairs,

04:20:23.940 and you can have folliculitis, it's called.

04:20:25.940 I'm not going to say that this is intermediate with three, maybe four, ditzels, I call them. 1.00

04:20:37.940 That might be soot.

04:20:38.940 I actually took a microscopic session of one of these to try to see if I could see any evidence

04:20:43.940 of gun, shock residue, gunpowder, stipple.

04:20:49.940 And the one section that I took was basically the epidermis, which is the top layer of your skin,

04:20:55.940 was normal and there was some blood underneath.

04:20:57.940 Hey, Doc, Dr. B84, question for you, bro.

04:21:00.940 The way this guy got shot in the back of the neck that went out the top of their head,

04:21:03.940 would they have died instantly or would they have felt pain during the shooting

04:21:08.940 and like maybe choke on their blood or something like that?

04:21:10.940 Was it an instant death or was it a slow, painful one?

04:21:13.940 That's going to be very important for the jury to know as well.

04:21:15.940 Let me know your professional opinion.

04:21:16.940 I would say that that for sure is intermediate.

04:21:20.940 In terms of this particular injury, was the individual alive when it was inflicted?

04:21:27.940 Yes.

04:21:28.940 How can you tell that?

04:21:29.940 From the hemorrhage.

04:21:31.940 Is there any sort of other things that would help and assist you in demonstrating the difference between hemorrhage and not?

04:21:41.940 Well, if you look at the other injuries.

04:21:43.940 Okay.

04:21:44.940 So let's move on then to gunshot wound C.

04:21:52.940 So this is gunshot wound C, which was on the back of the right shoulder.

04:21:56.940 Okay, the abrasion collar around that wound is not hemorrhagic.

04:22:02.940 What that tells me is that there is no circulation in that part of the body when that gunshot wound is inflicted.

04:22:09.940 All right.

04:22:10.940 So based on Dr. B84's professional experience, he says it's hard to determine exactly.

04:22:15.940 And remember, guys, the question I asked was getting shot in the back of the neck like that and the bullet going out the top of your head.

04:22:20.940 Would it be painful?

04:22:21.940 Did the victim experience a lot of pain before dying or was it instant?

04:22:24.940 He goes, it's hard to determine exactly, but most likely pretty quickly since it did cause a head bleed that was extensive based on her pathology report.

04:22:31.940 Okay, fair enough.

04:22:32.940 Doc, would you say that the individual was, I guess, conscious and aware of it?

04:22:39.940 Or did they instantly like go into shock and not feel the pain?

04:22:42.940 I mean, I know I'm going in the weeds here, but I think it's going to be important for the jury to know if he felt pain and suffering before he died.

04:22:50.940 Or did he just kind of like go into shock and not really feel that at that point?

04:22:54.940 If the guy got shot in the middle of the neck, then he definitely then of his neck, then it definitely would have been fast.

04:22:59.940 Okay.

04:23:00.940 Okay, cool.

04:23:01.940 Let me know if you know the other answer to that second part.

04:23:04.940 But yeah, let's keep going.

04:23:06.940 Shout out to having a doctor in the house, Ben.

04:23:08.940 Donna Marco for Dr. B84 in the chat, man.

04:23:10.940 Okay, and he follows up and he says super hard to say, but you probably did feel pain.

04:23:17.940 Okay.

04:23:18.940 Yeah.

04:23:19.940 Thanks, Doc.

04:23:20.940 I appreciate that greatly, man.

04:23:21.940 No, we got a fucking doctor in the house, man.

04:23:22.940 Chats is late.

04:23:23.940 An example of what you would see if they were inflicted within seconds of each other.

04:23:30.940 Well, I can tell you of the hundreds of gunshot wound cases, not even, I just had a stab in the case, but in the hundreds of cases that I've done,

04:23:39.940 the thousands of cases that I've done, there are only three where I can tell you the order in which the shots occurred,

04:23:50.940 because some were before the person passed away and some were after.

04:23:56.940 You know, I've had hundreds of gunshot wound cases where they're shot 15, 20, 25 times, and every single gunshot has 100.

04:24:05.940 So, are they within seconds?

04:24:09.940 No.

04:24:10.940 But I can't tell you.

04:24:11.940 Is it, you know, five minutes?

04:24:15.940 Is it 30 minutes?

04:24:16.940 There's no way for me to tell you what the timeframe between gunshot wound A to E is from when B and C were inflicted.

04:24:32.940 Moving on to D.

04:24:39.940 What about this?

04:24:40.940 Just so you guys know, these gunshot wounds that they're talking about now are the gunshot wounds after the fact,

04:24:45.940 when they had already died, okay?

04:24:49.940 The drive-by, I'll call them the drive-by wounds, right?

04:24:52.940 The stage of drive-by.

04:24:53.940 This particular mark tells you that this is an exit wound.

04:24:58.940 So, D is an exit wound.

04:25:00.940 It's lacerated, okay?

04:25:02.940 Because you have a light force object, the projectile, traveling at a very high, well,

04:25:08.940 traveling at a rate of speed and with enough energy to perforate the skin, and it causes a laceration.

04:25:16.940 All right.

04:25:17.940 So, Doc goes, and even she can't tell you how long it took in this case.

04:25:20.940 Yeah, fair enough.

04:25:21.940 Doc, if you had to make an educated guess based on your training experience, how long do you think he was alive before he died?

04:25:27.940 Are we talking 30 seconds?

04:25:29.940 Are we talking a minute, two minutes, three minutes, 10 minutes?

04:25:33.940 In your professional experience, how long do you think he lived after the gunshot?

04:25:39.940 And so this is photo number 16 for the record.

04:25:43.940 Can you explain, and I'm going to go forward onto photo number 17,

04:25:48.940 so you can explain what a laceration is and what it looks like?

04:25:51.940 Yeah, so this skin is lacerated.

04:25:54.940 There's no abrasion margin around it, and it's consistent with an exit wound.

04:25:58.940 And in terms of where on the body is D located?

04:26:02.940 So it's right, almost underneath the yard pit, on the pit.

04:26:06.940 On the left-hand side of the back.

04:26:08.940 Going back to picture 16, which direction is the body facing when this photo is taken?

04:26:14.940 Face down.

04:26:15.940 Okay.

04:26:16.940 Going on to photograph number 20 for the record.

04:26:27.940 What are you looking at here?

04:26:29.940 So this is the left lung.

04:26:31.940 It's a trajectory rod through it showing the pathway of the projectile.

04:26:36.940 What is interesting in this photograph is that there's absolutely no hemorrhage around any of those wounds.

04:26:45.940 Okay?

04:26:46.940 Your lungs are very vascular, right?

04:26:48.940 Because your lungs are...

04:26:49.940 Shout out to Doc with a really fucking great response here.

04:26:53.940 He says, I'd say, and my question was, how long do you think he was alive after he had been shot prior to dying?

04:26:59.940 So in other words, how long was he suffering?

04:27:01.940 Doc says, I'd say a few minutes and maybe up to 30 minutes or one hour at the most.

04:27:06.940 That depends on how fast the head bleed grew before eventually crushing his brain.

04:27:12.940 Doc, another Don DeMarco for you, bro.

04:27:14.940 I appreciate you giving us your professional insights on this.

04:27:21.940 Shout out to you, my friend.

04:27:24.940 You're responsible for taking the oxygen out of the air you breathe and pushing it into your...

04:27:30.940 I thought it would have been like 10 seconds or some shit.

04:27:32.940 So that changes things a lot.

04:27:33.940 Your blood, right?

04:27:35.940 In the really small sacs in your lung.

04:27:40.940 So an injury to your lung is going to bleed a lot.

04:27:45.940 Okay?

04:27:46.940 If your heart is beating.

04:27:48.940 Okay?

04:27:49.940 There's no hemorrhage in the upper or the lower lobe of the lung.

04:27:52.940 And so when you say hemorrhage, what would it look like on the photo?

04:27:55.940 What would you be looking for?

04:27:57.940 So there would be...

04:27:58.940 So blood would leak out into the area around that lung. 0.84

04:28:01.940 And it would not look pink with brown black staining.

04:28:05.940 It would look red.

04:28:07.940 Because it's full of blood.

04:28:09.940 And so Dr. McDougall, if you could remind the ladies and gentlemen of the jury,

04:28:12.940 what entrance and exit wound does this correspond with?

04:28:16.940 So this is entrance wound B.

04:28:19.940 That goes to exit wound D.

04:28:22.940 Moving on to what is been admitted as photograph number 18.

04:28:32.940 Can you describe the lady on the jury?

04:28:34.940 Now y'all see why the state is trying to do a pushing for murder.

04:28:39.940 We're looking at here.

04:28:40.940 Excuse me.

04:28:41.940 They're pushing for the death penalty of Miley.

04:28:42.940 Sorry, guys.

04:28:43.940 I haven't slept yet, man.

04:28:44.940 I'm dying over here, so...

04:28:46.940 This is the exit wound E.

04:28:49.940 That went with entrance wound A.

04:28:52.940 The back of the neck.

04:28:54.940 Comes out the right side.

04:28:56.940 Dr. B adds a little bit more context.

04:28:58.940 Says it depends also where the head bleed was.

04:29:00.940 That's why it's difficult to give an exact time frame.

04:29:02.940 No, man.

04:29:03.940 You're good, bro.

04:29:04.940 You gave a really good range, you know.

04:29:06.940 But damn, it's a lot longer than I expected though.

04:29:08.940 So that answers my question for sure.

04:29:10.940 Thank you, doc.

04:29:11.940 This is the temporal scalp.

04:29:14.940 This is with the scalp reflected forward.

04:29:22.940 So we do an incision across the head behind the ears.

04:29:26.940 We reflect the scalp forward and back.

04:29:29.940 And what this is showing you is this is hemorrhage.

04:29:32.940 Okay?

04:29:33.940 This is blood.

04:29:34.940 This is bleeding.

04:29:35.940 There is a heartbeat.

04:29:37.940 And so with regards to now E, at this point, this scalp is back on this photo, which we've

04:29:51.940 already talked about here.

04:29:52.940 Can you explain why this is a laceration?

04:29:55.940 So we shave it to show.

04:29:57.940 I mean, it's consistent with a laceration.

04:29:59.940 There's no overrated margin.

04:30:01.940 It's consistent with an exit wound.

04:30:03.940 Anyhow, shout out to Dr. B in the chat, giving a little bit more insight.

04:30:08.940 Since we don't have pictures to go off of, he's given, you know, his professional experience

04:30:14.940 on the side, you know, answering some more nuanced questions for y'all.

04:30:18.940 So shout out to him, man.

04:30:19.940 In terms of what has been previously admitted as date 74, is this the projectile fragments

04:30:27.940 of photo of them have been introduced into evidence?

04:30:30.940 That's correct.

04:30:31.940 Why do you recover these?

04:30:34.940 Because, I mean, we usually recover projectiles and fragments so that, you know, turn them

04:30:43.940 over so that crime scene can do whatever kind of testing they want to do with the projectiles.

04:30:49.940 These pieces are probably too small, but it's still evidence.

04:30:54.940 So we collect all the evidence outside of and on the body to get to law enforcement in

04:30:59.940 the state.

04:31:00.940 Was there any evidence of medical intervention for Mr. Williams?

04:31:04.940 No.

04:31:05.940 And what would that mean?

04:31:07.940 So sometimes people are transported to the hospital.

04:31:14.940 They still have a heartbeat.

04:31:16.940 And so the trauma team or the emergency room doctors are going to want to do whatever

04:31:20.940 they can do to save that person's life.

04:31:23.940 So sometimes with gunshot wounds especially, you can have, you know, they can put just tubes

04:31:29.940 in, they can do with floricotomy, which is where they open up the side of your, you know,

04:31:35.940 they open up your rib cage to try to get your heart beating again.

04:31:38.940 I mean, there's lots of things that they will do to try to save somebody's life.

04:31:42.940 Were there any, and so there were none of those in this case?

04:31:45.940 Deborah?

04:31:46.940 Okay.

04:31:47.940 In terms of the rest of the internal examination, were there any other findings that led to

04:31:53.940 the death of Mr. Williams other than the gunshot wounds you've talked about?

04:31:57.940 No.

04:31:58.940 Fair enough.

04:31:59.940 Do you collect samples for the purpose of processing for toxicology?

04:32:04.940 We do.

04:32:05.940 And do you do that testing?

04:32:09.940 We do.

04:32:10.940 We have a toxicology lab.

04:32:11.940 I don't do it partially.

04:32:12.940 We have a toxicologist that does it. 0.94

04:32:14.940 And did you do that for Mr. Williams?

04:32:15.940 We did.

04:32:16.940 And in terms of the results of that toxicology, what showed up?

04:32:21.940 So he has marijuana, THC, and marijuana metabolite.

04:32:25.940 And can you give any sort of timeframe on the ingestion of those sentences?

04:32:30.940 Based on your autopsy, did you come to an opinion of the cause and manner of death for

04:32:38.940 someone?

04:32:39.940 I did.

04:32:40.940 And what was that?

04:32:41.940 The cause of death is multiple gunshot wounds, and the manner of death is homicide.

04:32:45.940 Well, can't get any more clear than that.

04:32:49.940 Going forward, were you also involved, briefly, with the case number 18-3119?

04:33:01.940 I was.

04:33:02.940 And what was your involvement in that in March of 2022?

04:33:09.940 In March of 2022?

04:33:11.940 Yes.

04:33:12.940 So, prior to March 8th of 2022, it was brought to my attention that there was a gunshot wound

04:33:22.940 on the lower extremity that we, Dr. Zodder and I, labeled as a penetrating gunshot wound.

04:33:33.940 No.

04:33:34.940 Sorry.

04:33:35.940 No.

04:33:36.940 I'm sorry.

04:33:37.940 We labeled it as a holistic injury, okay?

04:33:40.940 Because we had wound on the outside of the leg.

04:33:45.940 There was no projectile in the leg, and there were just two little ditzels on the full body

04:33:52.940 x-ray.

04:33:53.940 So, it was most consistent with a projectile usually hitting something else and then just

04:34:01.940 coming up against the skin to make a ribbon in it, but not a projectile that goes shoot

04:34:07.940 the leg.

04:34:10.940 One of the crimes, Chris, was at the objection here.

04:34:16.940 All right, so they're doing a sidebar now.

04:34:30.940 I'll mute that so you don't hear the weird static.

04:34:33.940 They're doing a sidebar now, which basically, they're doing that.

04:34:39.940 Oh, hold on.

04:34:40.940 I got it.

04:34:43.940 They're doing a sidebar.

04:34:45.940 As you guys know, we talked about that earlier.

04:34:47.940 A sidebar is basically where the attorneys talk and kind of convene and discuss legal

04:34:51.940 matters or disagreements or whatever and how they're going to proceed.

04:34:54.940 But, yeah.

04:34:55.940 I mean, y'all could see this woman is on her P's and Q's. 0.92

04:35:00.940 I mean, she's literally done this with 3,000 bodies pretty much, and 600 to 700 of those 0.64

04:35:05.940 are gunshot wounds.

04:35:06.940 So, she knows what she's talking about in this situation.

04:35:09.940 So, the defense is going to be, they got to put some work in to deal with this, man.

04:35:14.940 I ain't going to lie.

04:35:15.940 Like, this is not going to be easy for them.

04:35:17.940 So, we'll see what ends up happening here.

04:35:20.940 But, yeah.

04:35:22.940 Let me hit some of these chats, though, while we wait.

04:35:24.940 We got here Honey Bones.

04:35:27.940 Edel Mubarak.

04:35:28.940 Thank you so much.

04:35:29.940 I appreciate that.

04:35:30.940 Shoken on New Zealand.

04:35:31.940 Tailgate JT.

04:35:32.940 Five bucks.

04:35:33.940 Appreciate that.

04:35:34.940 Tailgate JT.

04:35:35.940 I was two during OJ and my mom still have the newspapers with it.

04:35:38.940 Yeah, bro.

04:35:39.940 It was legendary case. 0.58

04:35:40.940 Overtime pay contribution.

04:35:41.940 Thank you, M and J. Do everything.

04:35:42.940 Mr. EZ goes, do you think the people doing commentary on the news?

04:35:45.940 So, we need to get a breakdown of Hunter Biden's charges and when we can expect

04:35:47.940 Aaron Hernandez's breakdown, Aaron Hernandez is coming.

04:35:48.940 Don't worry.

04:35:49.940 You guys will get that.

04:35:50.940 I just got to figure out how I'm going to do it.

04:35:51.940 Cause a lot of it is from the Netflix series.

04:35:52.940 And y'all know how Netflix is with YouTube.

04:35:54.940 And then Hunter Biden's going to probably do that with Ryan Dawson.

04:35:57.940 Tailgate JT.

04:35:58.940 Two bucks.

04:35:59.940 Appreciate that.

04:36:01.940 Tailgate JT.

04:36:02.940 Mr. EZ goes, do you think the people doing commentary on law and crime are

04:36:05.940 ignorant about the case or willfully trying to push the audience on a certain

04:36:08.940 way?

04:36:09.940 I think they're just ignorant.

04:36:10.940 I don't think it's like intentionally ignorant.

04:36:13.940 I just think like they didn't study the case prior and they're going off of

04:36:16.940 what they see at the trial and they didn't know the facts prior to the trial.

04:36:20.940 I think that's what it is.

04:36:21.940 Like they had like a general idea, but if any of these commentators actually read

04:36:25.940 through the affidavit with the same level of detail that I have on multiple

04:36:28.940 occasions, they would not be saying a lot of the goofy shit that they're saying

04:36:31.940 here.

04:36:32.940 I think about it.

04:36:33.940 Yeah.

04:36:34.940 Some of y'all don't like it's one thing for me to tell y'all the facts.

04:36:37.940 It's another thing for me to pull up the affidavit, read it alongside you guys,

04:36:41.940 show you the surveillance footage and show you the ludicrously and the asinine

04:36:45.940 lies of YNW,

04:36:47.940 Moreland, Fredo, Bang and all these other guys have been lying on Melly's behalf.

04:36:50.940 It's clown world shit.

04:36:51.940 So that's why so many people know, no, because they didn't actually do the work and read

04:36:55.940 the legal documents.

04:36:56.940 Like a girth goes, never bring banner card on the show again.

04:37:00.940 He is blue pill alpha.

04:37:01.940 That says he created FNF.

04:37:03.940 Hey man, I mean, like I said before, bro, we're not going to agree on everything.

04:37:06.940 He's the homie man. 1.00

04:37:07.940 So it is what it is.

04:37:08.940 Work hasn't been kind.

04:37:09.940 So please take this as a total appreciation.

04:37:11.940 Thank you, man.

04:37:12.940 Thank you, my friend.

04:37:13.940 All right.

04:37:14.940 The lady's back. 1.00

04:37:15.940 So let's go back to the 18-3118.

04:37:18.940 I didn't know.

04:37:19.940 Who did?

04:37:20.940 Dr. Sawyer.

04:37:21.940 So I want to go back to 18-3118.

04:37:26.940 We talked about this projectile that was recovered.

04:37:30.940 Did you recover an additional projectile from the body of Anthony Williams?

04:37:33.940 I did.

04:37:34.940 And where was that located at?

04:37:36.940 In the right scapula for the bone, your shoulder blade, the wing of your back.

04:37:42.940 And in this next photo that we're looking at here, which is number 19, this number,

04:37:51.940 is that where you retrieved that particular projectile?

04:37:54.940 Hey guys, what I'll probably do is I'll go to about five hours because I can see that

04:37:58.940 I'm starting to operate on fumes here and I'm not as sharp as I should be.

04:38:01.940 So I'll go to five hours and then we'll close this bad boy out.

04:38:04.940 I'm really pissed off when I get to see the pictures though.

04:38:06.940 Very lame.

04:38:07.940 That's correct.

04:38:08.940 So to orient you.

04:38:09.940 Sorry.

04:38:10.940 I worked out before this too.

04:38:13.940 I didn't even tell y'all that.

04:38:14.940 I did the stream, went to go get a quick meal, trained, and then came right up here and

04:38:19.940 did the stream.

04:38:20.940 Oh man, I'm dying right now.

04:38:21.940 This is the neck, the back of the neck, the midline of the back.

04:38:26.940 Okay.

04:38:27.940 The entrance wound is right here and it goes and it gets stopped by all that bone.

04:38:32.940 And if you look at the muscles here, there's no hemorrhage either.

04:38:37.940 And so going on to this photo here, which is number 23, what are we looking at?

04:38:45.940 All right.

04:38:46.940 They're on the last photo right now.

04:38:47.940 In that particular photo.

04:38:48.940 Y'all want to see how delusional Melly fans are?

04:38:53.940 Look at this.

04:38:54.940 I hate guilty.

04:38:55.940 Bruh.

04:38:56.940 75% of these niggas think he's innocent. 1.00

04:38:58.940 I guess common sense isn't that common.

04:39:03.940 Like over here, I read y'all the affidavit and most of y'all are sane and not retarded 1.00

04:39:08.940 and y'all are like, oh, damn. 0.61

04:39:10.940 I guess this nigga is guilty. 1.00

04:39:12.940 These dudes over here, retarded, bro. 1.00

04:39:15.940 Yo, I'm telling you guys, man, most people are blue-pilled, bro.

04:39:20.940 Blue-pilled as fuck.

04:39:21.940 When it comes to looking at facts, when it comes to women, when it comes to money, when 0.52

04:39:26.940 it comes to, bro, it's not about being red-pilled with women alone.

04:39:29.940 No, it's about being red-pilled in all aspects of life and looking at things for what the

04:39:33.940 fuck it is.

04:39:34.940 When you go in like a normie channel, like this channel, obviously there's 32K people

04:39:38.940 watching here.

04:39:39.940 99% of people watching this shit are retarded normies that don't know what the fuck they're 1.00

04:39:43.940 doing.

04:39:44.940 You know what I mean?

04:39:45.940 And then you wonder why people like Biden get an office.

04:39:48.940 Most Americans are fucking retarded. 1.00

04:39:51.940 I want y'all to understand this.

04:39:53.940 Most people are fucking retarded guys. 1.00

04:39:58.940 Okay?

04:39:59.940 We went through that affidavit.

04:40:00.940 We know the facts over here on FedReacts.

04:40:03.940 We know what time it is.

04:40:04.940 We're not idiots.

04:40:05.940 But y'all can see the stupidity of most people, man.

04:40:08.940 So if you're on this side of the internet, you're taking in this kind of content, you're

04:40:11.940 already hand and shoulders above a typical normie, man.

04:40:15.940 Incredible.

04:40:16.940 Look at this shit.

04:40:18.940 75% of these people really think this nigga's innocent, bro. 1.00

04:40:21.940 What the fuck?

04:40:23.940 Guys comment says it's not so common.

04:40:26.940 Thank you.

04:40:27.940 Lucky stars.

04:40:28.940 You're on this side of the internet, man.

04:40:29.940 Right side of the back.

04:40:31.940 Incredible.

04:40:32.940 Can I have a moment to confirm this?

04:40:33.940 Yes.

04:40:34.940 Okay.

04:40:35.940 And so, Doctor, I have to go clear.

04:40:39.940 We talked about B and D. Was the victim Anthony Williams dead when the B and D was inflicted

04:40:53.940 to the body?

04:40:54.940 Yes.

04:40:55.940 So when gunshot wound B was inflicted?

04:40:58.940 Yes.

04:40:59.940 And it exited D.

04:41:00.940 So it's one gunshot wound.

04:41:02.940 Right.

04:41:03.940 So when wound C was inflicted, was Anthony Williams dead?

04:41:08.940 Yes.

04:41:09.940 I don't have any other questions after we approach that for a moment.

04:41:14.940 All right.

04:41:17.940 So direct examination is done.

04:41:21.940 Now the defense is going to cross examine her guys. 0.96

04:41:24.940 Okay.

04:41:25.940 So it looks like they're going to take a short recess here.

04:41:28.940 Defense is going to do cross and we'll see what happens.

04:41:37.940 All right.

04:41:38.940 Let me go ahead and read some of these chats.

04:41:41.940 Jonathan Hugu goes, you made what you've been a slow day in the office, a great day

04:41:46.940 that flew by with his live stream.

04:41:47.940 Thank you, Myron, for your hard work.

04:41:48.940 I got you, my friend.

04:41:49.940 I am dying right now.

04:41:51.940 Barely keeping these eyes open, but I got y'all.

04:41:53.940 Corona Karen and Byron Gaines cooking up today.

04:41:55.940 We got you, man.

04:41:56.940 Corona Karen.

04:41:58.940 That was actually funny.

04:42:00.940 Corona Karen.

04:42:01.940 If the shooting was inside the car, how the shells end up outside on the street.

04:42:06.940 Can you explain this?

04:42:07.940 The reason why the shells ended up outside the street guys was because remember one shows

04:42:11.940 inside the vehicle, right?

04:42:14.940 From being shot inside the vehicle.

04:42:16.940 And then the shells that were outside the vehicle from the crime scene were there from

04:42:19.940 them shooting into the vehicle to stage the crime scene.

04:42:23.940 That's why you saw the shards of glass there as well.

04:42:29.940 There's Melly right there. 0.99

04:42:30.940 There's a 4-half-to-line, right there.

04:42:32.940 There's too many people Thank you very much.

04:42:42.560 Hello!

04:42:43.940 Lonnie Perry.

04:42:44.940 We'll see you next day.

04:42:45.940 Thank you.

04:42:46.940 I'm getting David Perry.

04:42:47.940 So, counsel, I didn't notice your fan of yourself and things like that.

04:42:53.640 That's why I was texting to try to see if they get the AC person back or in it.

04:42:57.660 All right.

04:42:59.960 Anything to discuss this?

04:43:01.280 No, I got it.

04:43:02.020 Anything from your end?

04:43:03.100 No, I got it.

04:43:03.680 All right.

04:43:04.320 We're in recess.

04:43:05.340 Mr. Dengue, do you want?

04:43:06.980 Is that right?

04:43:07.820 Excuse me.

04:43:08.640 You hear that?

04:43:09.420 Can we wait for a rest and break, Mr. Dengue?

04:43:11.940 I got it.

04:43:12.360 All right.

04:43:15.360 All right.

04:43:15.940 So, they're going to recess right now.

04:43:18.700 What I'll probably do, guys, I'll end it here.

04:43:22.700 Defense is going to do their cross, which, to be honest with you, it's very difficult to cross-examine a medical professional like this because it's a matter of fact.

04:43:30.460 You can't really sit there and be like, well, we know that that shot was fatal, but is it possible that fucking XYZ happened? 0.67

04:43:40.340 And it's like, bro, they died from these gunshot wounds that were at close range, and it occurred in the vehicle.

04:43:49.000 Done.

04:43:49.720 Stipeling is there.

04:43:50.920 There's no other way you can explain stipeling being there and the wound patterns, et cetera.

04:43:55.200 They died from these single gunshot wounds.

04:43:57.380 Everything after the fact was after they were dead.

04:44:00.380 This is one of those witnesses that you really, it's very, you ain't going to be able to move her.

04:44:04.560 So, we'll see what the defense tries to do.

04:44:07.600 But with that said, guys, I am going to try to get some sleep.

04:44:10.940 I am literally dying right now.

04:44:12.800 I have not slept, and it's already 2.30 in that fucking afternoon. 0.83

04:44:16.500 So, I love y'all.

04:44:18.660 I really do.

04:44:20.900 Don't forget to like the video.

04:44:22.000 We got a packed week for you guys.

04:44:25.760 We're going to have Jen Pratt and her husband come in to talk about paternity. 1.00

04:44:32.340 Then we're going to have, I don't know if Zerka's going to be able to make it. 0.99

04:44:35.340 I just got a text literally just now while we're on stream.

04:44:37.360 I don't know if he'll be able to make it for Wednesday.

04:44:38.940 But we'll probably have McQueen on for after hours.

04:44:42.780 Then we will have Scott Ritter on Thursday, which I actually really look forward to that, guys.

04:44:47.160 He's one of the best, really good geopolitical commentators, especially when it comes to Russia-Ukraine.

04:44:52.380 And then Friday, we got Ryan Dawson.

04:44:54.860 And then next week, we might have some other special stuff planned for y'all.

04:44:58.900 And then obviously, as you guys know, Nick Fuen says July 7th.

04:45:02.300 And then, just because you guys grinded out for me for so long,

04:45:06.460 the following Monday, I'm going to have Fuentes, Sneeko, Zerka.

04:45:17.420 You guys are going to see part two of that epic six-hour stream that was too hot for even Rumble, goddammit.

04:45:22.780 All right?

04:45:24.060 So, it was a six-hour stream where we went real deep into them boys.

04:45:28.380 All right?

04:45:30.000 But, yeah, it's going to be wild.

04:45:32.280 Wild, wild, wild.

04:45:33.640 Nothing tonight, guys.

04:45:34.540 You guys obviously got fed it.

04:45:35.820 And then also, I want to get your guys' opinion on this.

04:45:41.700 Let's see if you guys want this.

04:45:43.800 I have NUMEC.

04:45:45.280 I don't know if you guys have seen it before.

04:45:48.180 The documentary done by Ryan Dawson on how them boys stole the nuclear bomb from the United States

04:45:55.920 and were involved in Kennedy's death.

04:45:58.740 Okay?

04:45:58.960 It's a really good documentary.

04:46:04.000 Fantastic documentary.

04:46:05.020 Really well done.

04:46:06.380 Very factually based.

04:46:08.660 Declassified documents.

04:46:09.660 Sources all over the fucking place.

04:46:13.140 Yeah.

04:46:13.900 I'm going to put it on Fed Reacts.

04:46:16.540 Have y'all watch it.

04:46:18.100 And then I'll probably react to it like a week or two later.

04:46:20.840 The reason why I want y'all to watch it first before I react to it is because it's super fucking complex, guys.

04:46:26.520 Like, I ain't going to cap.

04:46:27.960 Y'all are going to have to rewind it at certain times.

04:46:31.520 You know what?

04:46:35.620 You know what?

04:46:36.220 I'm not leaving.

04:46:45.200 I'm not leaving.

04:46:50.080 I'm not fucking leaving!

04:46:53.780 The show goes on!

04:46:57.720 This is my home!

04:46:59.580 They're going to need a fucking wrecking ball to take me out of here!

04:47:04.040 All right.

04:47:05.020 Let me show y'all.

04:47:07.880 This is why we wait because it looks like they got this little recess.

04:47:11.120 All right.

04:47:12.580 Hold on.

04:47:13.060 Let me share this with you guys.

04:47:15.520 You guys, give me ones in the chat if y'all want me to play the first part of Numek on here

04:47:19.300 so you guys can get a sneak peek into what you're going to get on Thursday if I drop this thing.

04:47:24.800 Give me ones in the chat if y'all want me to give y'all a sneak peek while we're on recess.

04:47:34.040 All right.

04:47:38.200 Let's fucking do it.

04:47:39.980 I'll give y'all a sneak preview.

04:47:41.360 This is a really good documentary and I think it needs to fucking get out there.

04:47:50.720 And I put timestamps in it too.

04:47:53.060 All right, gentlemen.

04:47:53.600 Welcome to Numek.

04:47:58.340 This is a documentary done by my guy, Ryan Dawson.

04:48:02.200 Really smart dude.

04:48:03.740 I'm going to give y'all a teaser and we're going to play the beginning part of it.

04:48:19.760 This intro is nuts, by the way.

04:48:23.600 Here we fucking go.

04:48:53.580 Here we go, Boyles.

04:48:54.780 We're on YouTube playing this shit.

04:49:04.540 It's lit.

04:49:05.300 Here we go.

04:49:18.840 Hahahaha! 0.76

04:49:48.840 Oh, shit.

04:50:13.880 You triggered my trap card, a.k.a.

04:50:16.380 Fax.

04:50:17.220 You triggered my trap card.

04:50:29.520 Quick overview of the post-World War II surplus weapons trade

04:50:34.120 and how intel agencies were supposed to be monitoring that.

04:50:37.980 The most vital and dangerous one being nuclear weapons, of course.

04:50:41.820 Both sides, the USSR and USA, kind of look the other way

04:50:45.960 or even covertly assisted when arms went to factions

04:50:48.660 they felt ideologically were beneficial to their global ambitions.

04:50:52.520 If Turkey is to have the assistance it needs,

04:50:55.800 the United States must supply it.

04:50:59.080 We are there.

04:50:59.960 I don't know if y'all caught it, but in the beginning part, right?

04:51:02.780 Like, they went through the entire, you know, formation and creation of, you know,

04:51:07.880 the certain homeland that won't be named.

04:51:09.960 And then it goes into, like, a bunch of the different wars

04:51:13.960 and intelligence operations that were conducted.

04:51:16.480 The only country able to provide that help.

04:51:20.540 From now on, it means that anti-communist America

04:51:22.860 will make its influence felt in European affairs.

04:51:25.720 The U.S., however, had one.

04:51:26.880 And the reason why I'm not worried, guys,

04:51:28.240 is because everything here is actually historically factual.

04:51:31.260 I went and fact-checked a bunch of this stuff.

04:51:32.820 This isn't like some conspiracy bullshit.

04:51:35.120 Y'all are going to see declassified documents

04:51:36.700 and proof for everything in here.

04:51:38.280 One exception, and that is when it went against its own interest

04:51:42.200 regarding Egypt and the vital Suez Canal

04:51:44.860 because of Israeli pressure groups.

04:51:47.540 This led to the Suez Crisis, or War 56,

04:51:51.540 which made Israel decide at any cost or risk

04:51:55.540 that it had to have the bomb.

04:52:00.200 Obviously, John F. Kennedy, Ben Gurion,

04:52:04.020 first president of...

04:52:06.020 World War II, the deadliest war,

04:52:16.000 culminated with the deadliest weapon, the atomic bomb.

04:52:20.100 Our B-29s dropped two atomic bombs.

04:52:29.660 Which hastened the surrender of Japan.

04:52:32.760 The bomb which wiped... 0.92

04:52:33.960 All right.

04:52:34.920 I think that's enough for the teaser for y'all, man.

04:52:37.440 What do y'all think?

04:52:38.040 Give me your feedback in the chat.

04:52:40.480 If y'all enjoyed that, give me some flame emojis.

04:52:44.380 It gets way deeper than that, by the way.

04:52:47.840 Way deeper.

04:52:49.620 But that's a preview of the Numek documentary.

04:52:53.080 It's really fucking good, guys.

04:52:54.880 Really, really good.

04:52:55.880 And that intro was really well put together, too.

04:53:00.060 I really enjoyed it.

04:53:02.160 But, yeah.

04:53:04.020 Hopefully, we don't get canceled.

04:53:05.800 But if we do...

04:53:07.400 Y'all niggas know where to find me, baby. 0.99

04:53:09.460 Y'all know where to find me.

04:53:13.160 You know, it is what it is.

04:53:14.840 Let me...

04:53:15.660 Hold on here.

04:53:17.280 Where is the...

04:53:20.080 The trial?

04:53:22.400 Let's see.

04:53:25.880 Uh...

04:53:26.600 Oh.

04:53:27.220 Hold on.

04:53:28.340 Gentlemen.

04:53:30.840 Oh.

04:53:31.340 All right.

04:53:31.620 She's on cross.

04:53:33.040 Fuck it.

04:53:33.940 It is what it is.

04:53:35.700 I'm not fucking leaving.

04:53:37.140 The show goes on.

04:53:40.740 This is my home.

04:53:42.640 They're gonna need a fucking wrecking ball

04:53:45.060 to take me out of here.

04:53:47.100 He's hair.

04:53:50.920 That was shown to you.

04:53:52.840 Did you cut his hair?

04:53:54.840 We shaved the hair around the wounds.

04:53:56.560 Okay.

04:53:56.940 Did you save the hair

04:53:58.080 so that it could be tested

04:53:59.320 to determine

04:54:00.040 if there was any

04:54:01.400 GSR or gunshot resident one?

04:54:04.660 We shaved the hair

04:54:05.520 so we can see the characteristics

04:54:06.880 of the wound.

04:54:09.200 And what did you do with the hair?

04:54:11.100 Did you bag it

04:54:12.000 so that it could be sent to the lab

04:54:13.640 to be examined

04:54:14.680 to determine

04:54:15.420 if there was any GSR

04:54:17.320 or any projectile fragments on it?

04:54:20.200 I did not.

04:54:21.180 Okay.

04:54:23.160 Detective Moretti was present, correct?

04:54:25.800 That's correct.

04:54:27.400 You've been advised

04:54:28.480 he's the lead detective

04:54:29.780 in this case, correct?

04:54:32.040 He's the detective

04:54:32.720 that called in the case.

04:54:33.940 That's correct.

04:54:34.620 Okay.

04:54:36.140 And...

04:54:37.360 Hey, real quick.

04:54:38.040 If y'all want to watch

04:54:38.820 that documentary now

04:54:39.740 before I debut on Fed Reacts,

04:54:41.340 this isn't about me getting views.

04:54:42.740 This is about getting exposure

04:54:43.680 from my boy Ryan.

04:54:44.980 Go on his rumble, okay?

04:54:49.400 You know what, man?

04:54:50.240 Let me hook this shit up for y'all.

04:54:51.440 Give me one second, man.

04:54:52.380 I'll play this

04:54:52.900 and I'll show you guys.

04:54:53.500 You indicated that the clothes

04:54:58.820 are a rather important factor

04:55:01.520 in determining the range

04:55:04.180 of whoever fired the gun

04:55:07.340 that caused their death.

04:55:09.000 If the entrance wounds

04:55:10.720 are around where there is clothing,

04:55:13.260 they are important

04:55:14.080 to determine the range of fire.

04:55:16.340 That's correct.

04:55:17.280 Okay.

04:55:18.280 All right.

04:55:19.620 This is it right here, guys.

04:55:20.860 It's on his rumble.

04:55:21.940 I'll drop the link in the chat.

04:55:22.920 If y'all want to watch this after,

04:55:24.500 go check out my guy,

04:55:25.980 Ryan Dawson, on Rumble.

04:55:28.180 And here it is, man.

04:55:30.140 I'll drop the link in here

04:55:31.000 in the chat.

04:55:32.320 His work is really good

04:55:33.460 and it's really a shame

04:55:34.480 that he got canceled

04:55:35.560 and you got a bunch of people

04:55:36.520 stealing his content,

04:55:37.840 stealing his hard work, research,

04:55:39.380 and not giving him credit.

04:55:40.680 So I'll go ahead

04:55:41.360 and drop this in the chat for y'all.

04:55:44.380 We've got to support the homies. 1.00

04:55:45.560 You indicated that one of the wounds

04:55:47.680 was in the chest area.

04:55:51.640 Correct.

04:55:51.960 Were you advised at any time

04:55:53.940 that this person

04:55:54.700 was wearing clothes?

04:55:56.300 Yes.

04:55:57.080 Okay.

04:55:58.020 And Moretti didn't bring the clothes

04:55:59.720 to you to look at?

04:56:02.800 So my judge caused a manner

04:56:04.440 of death on the body.

04:56:06.120 Okay.

04:56:06.640 And the reason I ask that

04:56:07.860 is because the height of the person,

04:56:10.140 the weight of the person,

04:56:12.060 the fact that he had

04:56:13.060 six inches of braided hair

04:56:15.820 hair and the clothes

04:56:17.640 that he was wearing

04:56:18.640 would assist

04:56:19.880 if anyone attempted

04:56:21.720 to do what is known

04:56:23.880 as a projectory reconstruction.

04:56:26.560 Correct?

04:56:28.320 But you could do

04:56:28.960 a modified gray stain

04:56:30.180 on the clothing

04:56:30.800 to look for

04:56:31.560 gunshot residue.

04:56:32.740 Okay.

04:56:34.140 And those items

04:56:35.340 would be important,

04:56:36.560 would it not,

04:56:37.480 if someone wanted

04:56:38.300 to attempt to reconstruct

04:56:39.720 how the shooting occurred?

04:56:42.340 So my job

04:56:43.160 is causing manner of death.

04:56:44.640 I'm no expert

04:56:45.720 in reconstruction.

04:56:46.720 Fair enough.

04:56:47.960 Now,

04:56:53.280 you indicated

04:56:56.220 that these injuries,

04:56:59.080 the first injury

04:57:00.580 to be

04:57:01.380 head, what was it?

04:57:03.060 Back of the head.

04:57:05.000 Was the fatal injury.

04:57:06.720 Right.

04:57:07.940 So in this case,

04:57:09.220 that's the fatal injury

04:57:10.360 because the other two

04:57:11.840 he was dead

04:57:12.700 when they were

04:57:13.280 inflicted.

04:57:14.720 So,

04:57:15.380 this person,

04:57:17.360 when he received

04:57:18.260 the other two injuries

04:57:19.320 was already

04:57:20.180 deceased.

04:57:21.460 Correct.

04:57:22.660 Did not suffer any pain

04:57:23.940 from those two injuries.

04:57:25.500 He's already dead.

04:57:26.820 Fair enough.

04:57:29.980 And you indicated

04:57:31.560 that these injuries

04:57:33.700 were indeterminate.

04:57:35.820 Correct.

04:57:37.880 Which means

04:57:39.080 in layman terms,

04:57:41.040 simple terms

04:57:41.840 for me to understand,

04:57:43.700 means

04:57:44.220 that he cannot tell

04:57:46.100 how far away

04:57:47.420 or how close

04:57:48.840 the shooter

04:57:49.780 or shooters

04:57:50.480 were

04:57:51.220 when this occurred.

04:57:53.640 Yes, sir.

04:57:54.420 In fact,

04:57:54.940 you don't know

04:57:55.480 if it was one shooter,

04:57:56.660 two shooters, 0.84

04:57:57.360 or more, correct?

04:57:58.240 That's correct.

04:57:59.180 Okay.

04:58:00.260 All right.

04:58:00.580 So he's doing

04:58:00.980 a good job here

04:58:01.600 to create some doubt.

04:58:02.800 You know,

04:58:03.080 you don't know

04:58:03.400 how far it was.

04:58:04.260 You don't know

04:58:04.760 one or two shooters.

04:58:05.960 I think you told me

04:58:20.980 when I met you

04:58:21.840 back in April 2022,

04:58:27.840 the day I took

04:58:30.340 your deposition.

04:58:31.240 Yes, sir.

04:58:32.280 that the scientific way

04:58:34.960 to determine

04:58:35.780 the distance

04:58:36.800 would be,

04:58:38.140 and I think

04:58:38.680 you said it today,

04:58:39.860 take the same gun,

04:58:41.980 correct?

04:58:42.480 Correct.

04:58:43.180 Take the same

04:58:44.000 ammunition,

04:58:45.540 correct?

04:58:46.200 Correct.

04:58:46.960 And then

04:58:47.880 fire that gun

04:58:50.260 with the same ammunition

04:58:51.560 into a white paper

04:58:55.060 or poster

04:58:55.740 or whatever,

04:58:56.920 wrapping paper,

04:58:57.740 until you could

04:58:59.400 get the same

04:59:00.840 type of stickling

04:59:01.920 pattern

04:59:02.500 that you observed

04:59:04.840 on the body,

04:59:08.640 correct?

04:59:09.520 If you have

04:59:10.340 an intermediate

04:59:11.600 gunshot wound,

04:59:12.620 yes, sir.

04:59:13.320 Okay.

04:59:13.980 Do you know

04:59:14.800 if that was done

04:59:15.680 in this case?

04:59:17.480 All three

04:59:18.320 of my gunshot wounds

04:59:19.500 are very determinate.

04:59:21.280 Okay.

04:59:22.700 Determinate,

04:59:23.280 which means

04:59:23.740 you can't tell

04:59:24.420 the number of shooters

04:59:25.340 or the distance.

04:59:27.800 And determinate

04:59:28.760 means I don't

04:59:29.760 know the range

04:59:30.420 of fire

04:59:30.980 from looking

04:59:31.840 at the gunshot

04:59:32.920 on the body

04:59:34.260 of the victim.

04:59:44.200 Now,

04:59:45.280 this was

04:59:49.540 a rather

04:59:50.680 unusual case

04:59:51.940 because

04:59:53.200 out of all

04:59:54.380 of the

04:59:55.380 examinations

04:59:56.200 you have done

04:59:56.900 over the years

04:59:57.840 since you've

04:59:58.780 been a medical

05:00:00.120 examiner

05:00:00.880 and a chief

05:00:02.360 medical examiner.

05:00:03.820 You usually

05:00:04.500 can't tell

05:00:05.220 what shot

05:00:05.900 or what injury

05:00:07.100 occurred first,

05:00:07.920 second,

05:00:08.220 and third.

05:00:09.280 Correct.

05:00:10.540 In this case,

05:00:12.340 you could

05:00:13.160 on both

05:00:14.920 the individual

05:00:17.200 you did the autopsy

05:00:18.580 of

05:00:19.660 and the individual

05:00:21.580 and the individual

05:00:21.600 that your

05:00:22.380 fellow

05:00:23.920 medical examiner

05:00:26.680 did.

05:00:28.700 Correct?

05:00:29.660 I can tell you

05:00:30.300 the first shot.

05:00:31.720 I don't know

05:00:32.540 the order

05:00:33.080 of the second

05:00:33.700 and third.

05:00:34.600 Okay.

05:00:35.080 And the first shot

05:00:36.260 on both

05:00:37.920 of them

05:00:38.720 were the fatal shots.

05:00:41.920 Because they

05:00:42.780 are already

05:00:43.220 deceased

05:00:43.640 when the other

05:00:44.140 ones are

05:00:44.740 inflicted.

05:00:46.600 Okay.

05:00:47.540 Now,

05:00:48.480 you signed

05:00:49.260 off

05:00:49.780 as the

05:00:51.760 chief medical

05:00:52.480 examiner

05:00:53.120 or the

05:00:53.600 supervisor

05:00:54.260 of Dr. Saunders

05:00:55.780 when she

05:00:57.120 finished

05:00:57.560 her report,

05:00:59.020 correct?

05:01:00.220 I signed

05:01:00.940 off on her

05:01:01.540 report as

05:01:02.360 the associate

05:01:03.200 medical examiner

05:01:04.480 that was

05:01:05.080 overlooking

05:01:05.940 her that day

05:01:06.640 in work.

05:01:07.240 Yes.

05:01:07.800 Okay.

05:01:09.360 I assume

05:01:10.280 before you

05:01:10.880 signed off

05:01:11.560 you looked

05:01:12.340 at the report?

05:01:13.460 Correct.

05:01:13.980 Reviewed

05:01:14.540 the report.

05:01:15.260 Correct.

05:01:15.740 And by

05:01:16.060 signing off

05:01:16.720 you basically

05:01:18.020 saying it

05:01:19.380 was correct.

05:01:20.680 So I reviewed

05:01:21.680 not only the

05:01:22.640 report,

05:01:23.160 I reviewed

05:01:23.560 all the pictures

05:01:24.160 that we took

05:01:24.640 to the office.

05:01:24.940 Okay.

05:01:25.400 So you review

05:01:26.040 everything.

05:01:26.700 Okay.

05:01:27.140 And you said

05:01:27.940 it was correct.

05:01:29.340 That's correct.

05:01:29.880 And then you

05:01:30.020 signed off as?

05:01:31.000 So what he's

05:01:31.680 trying to do

05:01:32.060 right now,

05:01:32.480 guys,

05:01:32.760 is he's trying

05:01:33.260 to like

05:01:33.720 attack the

05:01:34.800 chain of

05:01:35.460 command

05:01:36.180 with how

05:01:36.840 she signed

05:01:37.340 paperwork and

05:01:38.000 shit.

05:01:38.200 This is what

05:01:38.540 the defense

05:01:38.960 does.

05:01:39.660 They're trying

05:01:40.040 to attack.

05:01:41.860 To be honest,

05:01:42.680 he's not really

05:01:43.380 attacking the facts.

05:01:44.060 Now he's

05:01:44.380 attacking like

05:01:45.640 protocol BS.

05:01:47.660 Really her

05:01:48.340 supervisor?

05:01:49.440 That's correct.

05:01:50.220 Okay.

05:01:51.580 Now,

05:01:52.360 that was in

05:01:53.380 18,

05:01:55.420 correct?

05:01:58.100 Go ahead and

05:01:58.580 look.

05:01:58.980 It might be

05:01:59.480 18,

05:01:59.820 it might be

05:02:00.140 19 because

05:02:00.820 it was the

05:02:01.360 end of all.

05:02:02.000 So funny

05:02:02.440 story for y'all,

05:02:03.260 the video was

05:02:03.820 full green and

05:02:04.460 monetized.

05:02:05.060 As soon as I

05:02:05.580 played that

05:02:06.020 fucking video

05:02:07.720 for y'all

05:02:08.180 about them

05:02:09.300 boys and that

05:02:09.980 certain land,

05:02:10.840 it's a yellow

05:02:13.040 check.

05:02:14.060 Oh Lord,

05:02:18.420 they don't want

05:02:19.380 y'all to know

05:02:19.860 the truth,

05:02:20.340 God damn it.

05:02:21.020 They just

05:02:21.340 don't.

05:02:23.160 Oh well,

05:02:23.780 it is what it

05:02:24.320 is.

05:02:25.020 We got to do

05:02:25.520 it for the

05:02:25.780 people.

05:02:26.020 So you can

05:02:28.960 tell me.

05:02:29.420 it was either

05:02:36.060 at the end of

05:02:36.640 18 or the

05:02:37.340 beginning of

05:02:38.200 19.

05:02:40.200 That's your

05:02:40.800 recollection?

05:02:41.720 Correct.

05:02:42.260 I signed mine

05:02:42.860 out on

05:02:43.160 November 27th.

05:02:44.280 I don't

05:02:44.540 know,

05:02:44.920 don't recall

05:02:45.540 the date,

05:02:45.920 but I don't

05:02:46.140 heard it before.

05:02:46.620 three,

05:02:51.180 over three

05:02:51.700 years later,

05:02:53.360 you indicated

05:02:55.780 you were

05:02:56.280 asked to

05:02:57.200 review

05:02:58.060 the autopsy

05:03:01.640 report of

05:03:03.160 Dr.

05:03:04.080 Saunders,

05:03:04.660 correct?

05:03:04.880 I was asked

05:03:07.660 to review

05:03:08.360 photographs that

05:03:09.780 were taken

05:03:10.380 at the

05:03:11.760 hospital

05:03:12.460 of the

05:03:15.680 decedent.

05:03:17.740 Okay.

05:03:18.320 and the

05:03:24.240 person,

05:03:25.180 and that

05:03:25.440 was about

05:03:26.160 three,

05:03:26.680 three and a

05:03:27.040 half years

05:03:27.420 later,

05:03:28.040 correct?

05:03:28.700 It was in

05:03:29.160 February of

05:03:30.000 22,

05:03:31.160 February or

05:03:31.720 March.

05:03:32.260 Okay,

05:03:32.680 and if your

05:03:34.140 autopsy was

05:03:34.960 in 18

05:03:35.500 and Saunders' 0.74

05:03:37.380 report was

05:03:37.980 sometime in

05:03:38.620 19,

05:03:39.680 that would

05:03:40.120 be part of

05:03:41.320 19,

05:03:42.480 20,

05:03:43.380 21,

05:03:44.160 and 22.

05:03:45.180 That's

05:03:45.480 correct.

05:03:45.680 The way

05:03:45.960 I can.

05:03:47.240 That's

05:03:47.640 correct.

05:03:48.320 approximately

05:03:48.880 three years

05:03:49.480 later.

05:03:50.340 That's

05:03:50.600 correct.

05:03:51.520 And you

05:03:51.920 realize

05:03:52.620 that there's

05:03:53.380 a mistake

05:03:54.140 that not

05:03:55.980 only Dr.

05:03:56.780 Saunders

05:03:57.400 made,

05:03:58.400 but obviously

05:03:59.780 without due

05:04:00.420 respect,

05:04:01.020 you made.

05:04:03.020 So there

05:04:03.540 is an

05:04:03.940 exit

05:04:04.260 lunged

05:04:04.640 on the

05:04:05.340 inner thigh

05:04:06.140 that I

05:04:07.440 don't have

05:04:07.760 any picture

05:04:08.400 of the

05:04:08.780 autopsy.

05:04:10.340 That is

05:04:10.760 photographed

05:04:11.200 at the

05:04:11.620 hospital.

05:04:12.460 Okay.

05:04:13.000 And if

05:04:14.420 I could

05:04:14.760 read what

05:04:15.400 the book.

05:04:16.400 Don't

05:04:16.680 read.

05:04:17.320 Just tell

05:04:18.040 us.

05:04:18.600 It will

05:04:19.380 be

05:04:19.560 pervaded

05:04:19.920 then.

05:04:20.760 At the

05:04:21.080 end of

05:04:21.320 every autopsy

05:04:22.040 report that

05:04:22.740 we offer,

05:04:24.600 there is a

05:04:25.280 statement that

05:04:26.380 I haven't

05:04:26.840 memorized,

05:04:27.820 but it goes

05:04:28.360 something like

05:04:28.960 this.

05:04:29.940 If any

05:04:30.520 probative

05:04:31.040 something-something

05:04:32.140 information

05:04:32.780 becomes available,

05:04:34.140 we have the

05:04:35.060 right to

05:04:36.060 amend the

05:04:36.480 report.

05:04:36.860 Of course.

05:04:37.320 And that's

05:04:37.660 exactly what I

05:04:38.280 did.

05:04:38.900 Okay.

05:04:39.240 Okay, so he

05:04:41.120 wants to

05:04:41.400 challenge her 0.51

05:04:41.880 on some

05:04:42.240 type of

05:04:42.600 amendment

05:04:42.900 that was

05:04:43.200 made to

05:04:43.460 report.

05:04:43.820 Let's

05:04:43.960 see where

05:04:44.180 it's

05:04:44.260 going with

05:04:44.620 this.

05:04:45.520 And in

05:04:46.140 fact, an

05:04:48.040 amended

05:04:48.460 report was

05:04:50.360 made,

05:04:51.260 correct?

05:04:51.900 That's

05:04:52.160 correct.

05:04:52.380 And the

05:04:56.140 person who

05:04:56.900 asked you

05:04:57.860 to review

05:05:00.560 that three

05:05:03.440 over

05:05:04.020 approximately

05:05:04.800 three years

05:05:05.520 later was

05:05:07.180 not the

05:05:07.600 police department

05:05:08.420 but the

05:05:09.300 state attorney's

05:05:10.100 office.

05:05:10.540 Isn't that

05:05:10.940 correct?

05:05:11.720 That's

05:05:12.020 correct.

05:05:13.540 Now you

05:05:14.280 can see here

05:05:14.760 he's raising

05:05:15.280 his voice and

05:05:15.960 almost yelling

05:05:16.660 at her guys to

05:05:17.560 try to get a

05:05:18.400 reaction out of

05:05:19.040 her.

05:05:22.380 And before

05:05:42.880 you corrected

05:05:43.680 that report,

05:05:48.220 did you

05:05:48.620 make any

05:05:49.140 attempt to

05:05:49.920 exhume the

05:05:50.720 body to

05:05:51.380 verify

05:05:52.060 that

05:05:53.600 injured?

05:05:55.020 I have a

05:05:55.400 photograph of

05:05:56.060 that helps

05:05:56.760 exuding the

05:05:57.340 body.

05:05:57.820 So the answer

05:05:58.400 would be

05:05:58.660 not.

05:05:59.000 That's

05:05:59.280 correct.

05:05:59.740 Okay.

05:06:03.980 Can I have

05:06:04.720 one moment,

05:06:05.320 John?

05:06:05.780 Yes.

05:06:13.020 My boss is

05:06:14.020 saying no

05:06:14.560 further question.

05:06:16.920 Counsel,

05:06:17.520 is there

05:06:17.740 any redirect?

05:06:18.500 Yeah,

05:06:18.860 frequently.

05:06:19.540 That was his

05:06:20.080 cross?

05:06:20.820 Bruh.

05:06:22.060 health

05:06:24.940 defense's

05:06:25.540 strongest

05:06:25.940 thing was

05:06:27.480 saying that

05:06:28.000 she amended

05:06:28.480 a report.

05:06:31.100 Does not 0.92

05:06:34.740 refute the

05:06:35.240 fact that

05:06:35.920 the deadly

05:06:36.300 gunshot wounds

05:06:37.200 pretty much

05:06:38.700 are there.

05:06:39.940 and that

05:06:45.100 there were

05:06:45.360 gunshot wounds

05:06:47.260 after they

05:06:48.060 were already

05:06:48.560 dead,

05:06:48.940 which aligns

05:06:49.820 with the

05:06:50.200 theory that

05:06:51.360 these guys

05:06:51.960 shot into

05:06:52.520 the vehicle

05:06:53.080 after the

05:06:53.700 fact.

05:06:53.920 18 and 3-1-1-9

05:06:56.000 are copy?

05:06:57.400 Yes,

05:06:57.780 there are

05:06:58.020 21

05:06:59.400 copy documents

05:07:03.240 and I think

05:07:03.680 there are

05:07:03.840 one that we

05:07:04.260 missed.

05:07:05.540 Are you

05:07:05.900 telling the

05:07:06.220 ladies and 0.98

05:07:06.480 gentlemen

05:07:06.640 of the

05:07:06.840 juries that

05:07:07.340 you can

05:07:07.860 make a

05:07:08.160 mistake,

05:07:08.480 that you're

05:07:08.680 human?

05:07:09.180 I'm

05:07:09.480 human.

05:07:10.080 She's

05:07:10.480 human.

05:07:10.860 We're

05:07:10.960 all

05:07:11.120 human.

05:07:11.940 So are

05:07:12.520 there

05:07:12.820 processes

05:07:13.680 in place

05:07:14.480 where you

05:07:15.340 can review

05:07:15.860 and go

05:07:16.280 back and

05:07:16.680 catch those

05:07:17.140 mistakes?

05:07:17.960 There

05:07:18.260 are.

05:07:18.500 So the

05:07:24.380 defense is

05:07:24.980 doing a

05:07:25.360 good job

05:07:27.140 here of

05:07:27.600 rehabilitating

05:07:29.100 the witness

05:07:29.540 which we

05:07:29.860 had seen

05:07:30.160 earlier with

05:07:30.660 the undercover

05:07:31.120 sheriff's

05:07:32.340 deputy.

05:07:37.620 If I have

05:07:40.340 a photo

05:07:40.720 document of

05:07:41.400 the injury

05:07:41.740 I would

05:07:41.980 never put

05:07:42.320 a family

05:07:42.640 through that.

05:07:44.520 Nothing

05:07:44.880 further,

05:07:45.340 governor.

05:07:46.120 Is this

05:07:46.400 witness

05:07:46.640 excused?

05:07:47.420 Yes,

05:07:47.660 all right.

05:07:52.420 Bam,

05:07:52.680 medical

05:07:52.920 examiner

05:07:53.340 done.

05:08:14.060 Thank you,

05:08:14.640 ladies and 0.98

05:08:14.940 gentlemen,

05:08:15.200 just take

05:08:15.480 a short

05:08:15.720 recess.

05:08:16.240 Don't

05:08:16.440 discuss

05:08:16.840 the

05:08:17.040 case.

05:08:17.400 Don't

05:08:17.440 inform

05:08:17.700 anything

05:08:18.040 about

05:08:18.400 the

05:08:18.540 case.

05:08:18.820 Don't

05:08:18.920 allow anyone

05:08:19.320 to discuss

05:08:19.860 the case.

05:08:20.620 All right.

05:08:21.820 So they're

05:08:22.340 going to take

05:08:22.640 a recess

05:08:23.020 again.

05:08:23.400 I think

05:08:23.620 we're

05:08:23.760 going to

05:08:23.900 end it

05:08:24.120 here,

05:08:24.320 guys.

05:08:25.240 All right.

05:08:25.580 We

05:08:25.800 grinded it

05:08:26.880 out,

05:08:27.100 man.

05:08:27.260 We sat

05:08:27.840 through

05:08:28.080 five plus

05:08:28.820 hours of

05:08:29.460 testimony

05:08:29.880 from two

05:08:30.840 big

05:08:31.780 witnesses,

05:08:32.420 man.

05:08:33.220 Guys,

05:08:33.840 like the

05:08:34.720 video for

05:08:36.440 my eyes

05:08:39.160 so I can

05:08:39.500 go to

05:08:39.760 sleep.

05:08:40.600 And like

05:08:40.880 the video

05:08:41.440 for me

05:08:42.520 playing a

05:08:43.040 video on

05:08:43.460 them boys

05:08:44.020 and instantly

05:08:45.220 getting a

05:08:45.720 yellow

05:08:45.940 check.

05:08:46.840 we went

05:08:49.360 from full

05:08:49.800 green to

05:08:50.300 yellow.

05:08:50.980 As soon as

05:08:51.720 they see

05:08:52.160 that star

05:08:52.840 they was

05:08:53.260 like,

05:08:53.800 nah,

05:08:54.100 bro.

05:08:55.200 No.

05:08:57.300 Nah.

05:08:59.260 So it

05:09:00.600 is what it

05:09:01.100 is.

05:09:02.440 I love

05:09:02.940 y'all.

05:09:03.240 I'll catch

05:09:04.520 you guys

05:09:05.120 tomorrow at

05:09:07.160 7 p.m.

05:09:09.280 with the

05:09:09.540 lawyers.

05:09:10.380 I'm going to

05:09:10.740 talk about

05:09:11.040 paternity,

05:09:11.480 guys.

05:09:11.760 Don't get

05:09:12.060 fucking

05:09:12.420 cucked out

05:09:12.940 here,

05:09:13.180 man.

05:09:13.940 All right.

05:09:16.700 I'll catch

05:09:17.280 you.

05:09:18.420 Yeah,

05:09:18.800 7 p.m.

05:09:19.200 for that one

05:09:19.600 and then we're

05:09:19.980 going to have

05:09:20.280 McQueen probably

05:09:20.840 on for the

05:09:21.200 nighttime.

05:09:22.140 And go check

05:09:22.880 out Ryan

05:09:23.200 Dawson's

05:09:23.740 documentary if

05:09:25.420 you guys want

05:09:25.840 to watch it

05:09:26.260 right now.

05:09:26.780 I'll probably

05:09:27.240 debut on this

05:09:28.100 channel this

05:09:28.580 week or next,

05:09:29.280 but I want to

05:09:30.020 give you a little

05:09:30.500 bit of a preview.

05:09:31.100 If you guys

05:09:31.400 want to wait

05:09:31.700 until I

05:09:31.960 debut,

05:09:32.380 cool.

05:09:32.620 If not,

05:09:32.900 go check

05:09:33.200 out Ryan

05:09:34.360 Dawson on

05:09:34.780 Rumble and

05:09:35.100 watch it

05:09:35.380 right now.

05:09:35.840 Fantastic

05:09:36.140 documentary.

05:09:38.120 Really

05:09:38.440 complex.

05:09:39.040 You're going

05:09:39.200 to have to

05:09:39.440 rewind it

05:09:39.880 to certain

05:09:40.180 parts.

05:09:41.240 My version

05:09:41.780 is going

05:09:42.000 to have

05:09:42.160 timestamps

05:09:42.600 for you.

05:09:42.940 Also,

05:09:43.060 if you want

05:09:43.300 to wait

05:09:43.460 for that,

05:09:43.740 it's up

05:09:43.940 to you.

05:09:44.800 But yeah,

05:09:45.640 man,

05:09:46.400 I might

05:09:46.880 even make

05:09:47.260 it a

05:09:47.420 members only

05:09:47.900 one,

05:09:48.120 to be

05:09:48.280 honest with

05:09:48.600 y'all,

05:09:48.780 just because

05:09:49.040 I'm just

05:09:49.340 like,

05:09:50.300 you know,

05:09:50.560 you don't

05:09:50.760 want just

05:09:51.020 like any

05:09:51.340 person

05:09:51.680 watching

05:09:52.020 that shit.

05:09:52.400 I'm going

05:09:52.820 to report

05:09:53.300 you.

05:09:53.660 You know

05:09:53.800 what I

05:09:53.920 mean?

05:09:54.160 Like,

05:09:54.380 it's like,

05:09:54.840 bro,

05:09:55.360 the video

05:09:55.980 went through

05:09:56.420 like review,

05:09:57.140 no problem.

05:09:57.640 But you know,

05:09:58.080 you get haters

05:09:58.600 that mass

05:09:58.980 report your

05:09:59.300 video.

05:09:59.680 We already

05:09:59.860 know what

05:10:00.140 the anus 0.77

05:10:00.520 and leech

05:10:00.800 fans do.

05:10:01.320 They report

05:10:01.680 shit.

05:10:01.900 So I might

05:10:02.260 actually have

05:10:02.700 to make

05:10:02.920 that video

05:10:03.360 members only

05:10:04.340 as much

05:10:04.660 as I

05:10:04.880 fucking

05:10:05.120 hate

05:10:05.280 doing

05:10:05.500 that

05:10:05.700 shit.

05:10:06.400 But just

05:10:07.000 to kind

05:10:07.300 of like

05:10:07.520 weed out

05:10:08.000 like haters,

05:10:08.780 bro,

05:10:08.960 because so

05:10:09.300 many people

05:10:09.700 hate watch

05:10:10.140 us.

05:10:10.320 It's crazy

05:10:10.940 how many

05:10:11.220 people hate

05:10:11.660 watch Fresh

05:10:12.320 and fit,

05:10:12.680 man.

05:10:12.820 It's wild.

05:10:13.920 A lot

05:10:14.160 of anus 0.93

05:10:14.820 and reach 0.95

05:10:15.060 fans watch

05:10:15.540 us just

05:10:16.140 to like

05:10:16.420 dislike

05:10:16.660 videos and

05:10:17.180 talk shit

05:10:17.580 and leave

05:10:17.820 stupid 0.75

05:10:18.020 comments,

05:10:18.460 which is

05:10:18.740 very weird

05:10:19.580 because we

05:10:20.520 don't go

05:10:20.740 watch their

05:10:21.120 bullshit content

05:10:21.680 and leave

05:10:21.920 comments like

05:10:22.540 what the

05:10:22.800 fuck.

05:10:23.620 But anyway,

05:10:24.260 love y'all.

05:10:25.080 Catch you

05:10:25.340 guys.

05:10:26.380 Outro

05:10:26.820 queue

05:10:27.300 now.

05:10:31.320 I'm a special

05:10:32.040 agent with

05:10:32.360 homelands

05:10:32.620 investigations.

05:10:33.280 Okay,

05:10:33.420 guys,

05:10:33.800 HSI.

05:10:34.640 This is what

05:10:35.000 Fed reacts

05:10:35.540 covers.

05:10:35.900 Defender

05:10:36.120 Jeffrey

05:10:36.380 Williams and

05:10:36.780 associate YSL

05:10:37.460 did commit

05:10:37.880 the felony.

05:10:38.400 Here's what

05:10:38.940 6ix9

05:10:39.420 actually got.

05:10:39.960 This attack

05:10:41.400 shifted the

05:10:42.220 whole U.S.

05:10:42.840 government.

05:10:43.260 This guy got

05:10:43.720 arrested.

05:10:44.420 Espionage.

05:10:45.040 Okay,

05:10:45.300 trading secrets

05:10:45.940 with the

05:10:46.700 Russians.

05:10:47.040 John Wayne

05:10:47.340 Gacy,

05:10:47.820 a.k.a.

05:10:48.240 The Killer

05:10:48.560 Clown.

05:10:49.060 Okay.

05:10:49.840 Oh,

05:10:50.240 hold on.

05:10:51.060 No,

05:10:51.260 no,

05:10:51.300 no,

05:10:51.480 hold on,

05:10:51.800 hold on,

05:10:52.040 hold on,

05:10:52.320 hold on,

05:10:52.600 hold on,

05:10:53.180 hold on.

05:10:54.340 I'm not

05:10:54.960 fucking

05:10:55.200 leaving.

05:10:56.000 The show

05:10:56.580 goes on.

05:10:59.820 This is my

05:11:00.820 home.

05:11:01.680 They're gonna

05:11:02.120 need a fucking

05:11:03.040 wrecking ball

05:11:04.080 to take me

05:11:05.400 out of here.

05:11:06.360 We ain't

05:11:06.700 leaving yet.

05:11:08.200 Dr.

05:11:08.520 Abel,

05:11:08.740 20 bucks,

05:11:09.240 flame emojis,

05:11:10.820 Michael Nguyen

05:11:11.400 for the coffee,

05:11:12.420 bro.

05:11:13.000 Appreciate that,

05:11:13.680 man.

05:11:13.960 Ain't leaving

05:11:14.340 none of y'all

05:11:14.640 behind.

05:11:14.960 You guys

05:11:15.200 support me.

05:11:16.180 I fucking

05:11:16.560 forget y'all.

05:11:17.260 I appreciate

05:11:17.700 that so much.

05:11:19.520 Like I said

05:11:19.840 before,

05:11:20.120 this channel

05:11:20.420 isn't about

05:11:20.760 the money,

05:11:21.660 but I

05:11:21.860 appreciate the

05:11:22.380 support.

05:11:23.300 Thank you,

05:11:23.680 guys.

05:11:23.920 I love you,

05:11:24.200 guys.

05:11:24.800 See you

05:11:25.220 tomorrow on

05:11:26.940 Fresh and Fit.

05:11:28.600 Peace out for

05:11:29.240 real this time.

05:11:29.660 I'm a special

05:11:33.000 agent with

05:11:33.320 Homeland Security

05:11:33.660 Investigations.

05:11:34.220 Okay,

05:11:34.400 guys,

05:11:34.720 HSI.

05:11:35.540 This is what

05:11:35.960 Fed Reacts

05:11:36.500 covers.

05:11:36.840 Defender

05:11:37.060 Jeffrey Williams

05:11:37.620 and Associate

05:11:38.040 YSL did

05:11:38.600 commit the

05:11:39.000 felony.

05:11:39.340 Here's what

05:11:39.920 6ix9ine actually 0.93

05:11:40.740 got.

05:11:41.240 This attack

05:11:42.340 shifted the

05:11:43.180 whole U.S.

05:11:43.800 government.

05:11:44.220 This guy got

05:11:44.680 arrested,

05:11:45.360 espionage,

05:11:45.960 okay,

05:11:46.260 trading secrets

05:11:46.900 with the

05:11:47.660 Russians.

05:11:48.000 John Wayne

05:11:48.300 Gacy,

05:11:48.780 aka the

05:11:49.320 killer clown,

05:11:49.960 okay,

05:11:50.220 one of the

05:11:50.560 most prolific

05:11:51.120 serial killers

05:11:51.760 of all time,

05:11:52.400 killed 33

05:11:52.820 people.

05:11:53.420 Zodiac killer

05:11:54.000 is a pseudonym

The Debrief With MyronGainesX - June 27, 2023

Fed Reacts To Undercover Cop & Doctor Testify In YNW Melly Trial!

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