The Debrief With MyronGainesX - Former Fed Explains 9⧸11 & How The FBI Solved It Step By Step!

00:00:00.340 All right, we are live. What's up, guys? Welcome to FedItMan. Today, we're going to be talking about 9-11 and Osama Bin Laden.

00:00:05.140 You guys have been requesting this one for quite a while. So without further ado, let's get right into the show, guys.

00:00:12.580 I was a special agent with Homeland Security Investigations, okay, guys? HSI.

00:00:15.840 The cases that I did mostly were human smuggling and drug trafficking.

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00:01:51.280 We're going to go over his past, the gang time, so that this all makes sense.

00:02:01.920 All right.

00:02:02.400 We are back.

00:02:02.900 What's up, guys?

00:02:03.340 Welcome to Fed It, man.

00:02:04.460 Today's a special episode, man.

00:02:05.580 We're going to be talking about the 9-11 attacks in Osama Bin Laden. 0.52

00:02:08.020 Let's go through memory lane real quick.

00:02:09.380 So on September 11, 2001, where was I?

00:02:15.400 I was in sixth grade, guys, in my English language arts class.

00:02:19.040 And I'll never forget.

00:02:19.700 It was probably around 11 a.m. or so, right around lunchtime, 11 or 12 p.m.

00:02:24.680 11 a.m. or 12 p.m.

00:02:25.960 And basically, I'll never forget.

00:02:27.820 It was Miss Landry was her name.

00:02:29.380 She goes and she's like, hey, guys, something terrible happened in New York.

00:02:31.960 They're going to make an announcement for it in a second.

00:02:34.320 I was like, what the hell?

00:02:35.120 And then, like, the principal called in the loudspeaker, said, hey, guys, something awful

00:02:39.100 has happened in New York City.

00:02:41.360 School is going to be ended and you guys have a half day. 0.99

00:02:45.340 And I remember everyone in the fucking classroom was like, yeah, woo! 0.99

00:02:49.220 They were, like, excited as hell. 0.99

00:02:51.360 You know, everyone was, like, going wild, just cheering all over the place.

00:02:54.680 And it was crazy because we were just like, oh, yeah, you know, we got a half day.

00:02:59.740 Woo! 0.99

00:03:00.180 Everyone's high-fiving, excited.

00:03:01.540 And, you know, then the bell rings and, you know, we ended up getting on the buses and

00:03:04.820 going home.

00:03:05.560 And no one really knew what was going on.

00:03:07.220 Remember, guys, this is 2001.

00:03:08.320 This is before the age of the cell phone, social media, et cetera.

00:03:10.300 So you actually have to, like, get home and get in front of a TV to figure out what the

00:03:13.620 hell was going on.

00:03:15.060 And I'll never forget.

00:03:17.800 I walked into the house and my dad had the news on.

00:03:20.760 And you can see the World Trade Center and, like, the Twin Towers, everything just, like,

00:03:27.720 that leveled, completely destroyed.

00:03:31.180 And I'll never forget he told me, yeah, son, we were attacked by terrorists.

00:03:36.000 And, you know, at that time, we didn't know who the hell it was.

00:03:38.600 You know, I remember my dad saying, like, hey, maybe Saddam Hussein was behind it.

00:03:41.840 You know, maybe it was the people that attacked us back in the early 90s in the World Trade

00:03:45.400 Center bombing before.

00:03:46.200 And it was just really, really surreal to see.

00:03:51.320 So, I mean, you know, we had a bunch of issues that came after 9-11.

00:03:55.800 You know, like my, you know, I grew up, as you guys know, as a Muslim family.

00:03:58.540 My parents are Sudanese, so Arab-speaking Muslim family.

00:04:01.500 And my mom got harassed a lot, guys, after 9-11.

00:04:04.120 You know, they'll call her terrorists and, you know, derogatory terms against Muslims, 1.00

00:04:08.180 all this other stuff that would probably get banned off YouTube for saying.

00:04:11.340 But that sparked me to get involved in law enforcement, especially on the federal side,

00:04:14.980 to go after these individuals that were involved in such a heinous attack.

00:04:18.260 And, you know, obviously caused such a, you know, a little bit more of a difficult life

00:04:21.580 for us as Muslim Americans.

00:04:23.200 So, you know, this is going to be a pretty special episode here.

00:04:26.540 And we're going to be covering the 9-11 attacks in a multiple part series.

00:04:30.940 And a part of that is we're going to go ahead and go into the FBI investigation into the terrorist

00:04:38.780 plots, how it unfolded, et cetera.

00:04:41.240 I'm also going to go ahead for all the conspiracy theorists out there and cover a documentary

00:04:46.340 that breaks that stuff down from the loose chains and, you know, the new Pearl Harbor.

00:04:49.400 I'll also go through what some of the conspiracy theorists have as far as, you know, saying

00:04:52.880 that 9-11 wasn't real or whatever.

00:04:54.680 And we'll look at all sides, guys.

00:04:55.980 I'm going to be objective here and look at all the sides.

00:04:58.020 I'll go over the official version and the conspiracy version as well.

00:05:00.840 But for today's episode, we're going to go over the FBI's response to the 9-11 attacks.

00:05:05.780 Okay.

00:05:06.080 And we're going to be watching a documentary called 26th Street Garage, a really interesting

00:05:10.360 documentary, documents the investigative efforts of the Bureau from the New York field office

00:05:14.420 post-attack.

00:05:16.060 So let me go ahead and present the screen here.

00:05:19.660 Well, and while I do this, guys, do me a favor.

00:05:21.580 Go ahead and like the video because I would really appreciate it.

00:05:24.780 It helps a lot when you guys like the videos.

00:05:27.660 Hold on.

00:05:28.280 Let me move this out the way.

00:05:30.180 Give me one sec, guys.

00:05:31.160 You know, I'm one man show here.

00:05:32.440 So, and I'm using Firefox, which Firefox is a little bit different than, um, it's a little

00:05:40.720 bit different.

00:05:41.160 Is this it?

00:05:43.500 No.

00:05:44.600 Oh, wow.

00:05:46.560 No, that's not it.

00:05:47.800 Okay.

00:05:48.120 That's the wrong screen.

00:05:49.420 But you know what?

00:05:50.000 Maybe I can move this over.

00:05:51.220 No, that's not it.

00:05:52.300 Give me one second, guys. 0.99

00:05:54.720 Give myself the stupid button right now for taking a while. 1.00

00:05:57.540 Stupid. 1.00

00:05:59.080 Hold on. 1.00

00:06:02.440 All right, cool.

00:06:07.500 We got it.

00:06:08.600 All right.

00:06:09.460 Let's get into, uh, let it get into the documentary, man.

00:06:12.620 Hopefully we don't get killed with a copyright.

00:06:13.860 The video you are about to see has never been seen by the public.

00:06:29.020 It was shot 20 years ago by FBI surveillance specialist Rick Sutton from the 25th floor of

00:06:43.980 the Bureau's New York headquarters.

00:06:45.580 I heard the noise.

00:06:50.780 I was standing in the bar right here.

00:06:52.660 And I heard the noise.

00:06:54.320 I looked out the window.

00:06:55.100 All I saw was a big, huge fireball coming out.

00:07:01.140 The voices are those of Specialist Sutton and other FBI personnel.

00:07:05.620 And for some of you guys that are wondering, the FBI is located at, I think, uh, 26 Federal

00:07:12.840 Plaza in Manhattan.

00:07:14.360 So this isn't too far from the location.

00:07:16.680 Do you see what hit it?

00:07:18.220 Well, on CNN, they're saying that it was a plane.

00:07:21.880 What happened to the plane?

00:07:23.000 Is it hit?

00:07:23.480 The plane, it could be lives on the inside.

00:07:26.480 Yeah. 0.54

00:07:27.340 That had to be suicide.

00:07:28.620 How could you, unless the plane was out of control.

00:07:32.380 Unless the plane was out of control.

00:07:32.620 You can hit that right in there.

00:07:34.220 Nah, I mean, look at the clear gate.

00:07:37.360 You know people are out of your lives.

00:07:39.440 You see if they're on the right side?

00:07:41.200 You know how they're waving them?

00:07:42.140 Oh, my God.

00:07:43.240 They have to break the window down.

00:07:44.900 Look at the people waving the white flag. 1.00

00:07:46.920 This is a fucking tragedy in the making. 1.00

00:07:49.120 I think they'll be okay. 1.00

00:07:50.040 They'll probably be out there.

00:07:52.260 It's just those people that were on the floor with a plane.

00:07:54.780 No, but they can't get down from there, Rick.

00:07:56.380 And the fire's...

00:07:57.000 Oh, man, the other one blew up.

00:07:58.460 I see that. 1.00

00:07:59.140 Holy shit, another one. 1.00

00:08:00.680 Oh, my God. 1.00

00:08:02.420 The other one just blew.

00:08:03.540 The other one just blew up.

00:08:04.620 The filming blew.

00:08:06.200 Both of them.

00:08:07.180 Holy. 1.00

00:08:07.480 Holy shit. 1.00

00:08:09.640 The other one blew up. 1.00

00:08:12.900 God.

00:08:13.740 I mean, it was a terrorist attack.

00:08:15.420 It had to be.

00:08:16.900 No.

00:08:18.400 God. 1.00

00:08:20.340 Holy shit. 1.00

00:08:21.680 What is it, blew up? 0.99

00:08:22.580 It just blew up.

00:08:23.260 It blew up.

00:08:23.820 It's like the first one.

00:08:24.660 Hey, guys, how about getting out of here?

00:08:32.640 Everybody could get around.

00:08:33.840 Huh?

00:08:35.540 Guys, maybe we should get out of here.

00:08:37.120 What do you think?

00:08:37.880 If it's going to be hard, it's going to be hard.

00:08:39.240 Not a bad idea, given that the FBI is the chief agency in investigating terrorist attacks.

00:08:47.420 So the next plane might be destined for them.

00:08:49.400 Remember, guys, this was pandemonium when it happened.

00:08:51.260 This was before the age of cell phones.

00:08:52.400 This was before the age of internet.

00:08:54.080 But well, at least how do I say this main internet in the mainstream level where everyone had access to it.

00:08:59.620 You know, people had internet, but it was dial up. 1.00

00:09:01.340 It was slow and make that stupid ass noise. 1.00

00:09:02.820 You know, sound like a freaking lawn lawnmower. 1.00

00:09:05.660 So this was way before the age of social media. 0.77

00:09:11.200 So for them, they're like, yo, we don't know what's going to happen next.

00:09:15.040 At this point, Specialist Sutton is forced to evacuate.

00:09:23.260 Along with the entire Bureau.

00:09:27.500 And the surveillance guys, just so you guys know, when they say surveillance specialists,

00:09:30.680 the FBI has surveillance teams that go out and watch your guys like 24-7 if needed.

00:09:36.460 And they're primarily, you know, designed to go and watch people on surveillance.

00:09:42.740 Because surveillance is an extremely taxing thing.

00:09:45.540 And obviously, you know, you need a lot of manpower to do it.

00:09:47.420 You need a lot of agents.

00:09:48.220 So one way that you can kind of curb the need for that manpower is you hire people that are specialists

00:09:52.400 in surveillance alone.

00:09:54.100 I don't think they're gun carrying, to be honest with you.

00:09:56.560 I don't think they're not 1811s. 1.00

00:09:59.620 They're not criminal investigators or special agents.

00:10:01.640 But they help you conduct your surveillances.

00:10:05.220 FBI office at 26 Federal Plaza.

00:10:08.880 Oh, look at that.

00:10:09.440 I had it.

00:10:09.920 I got it right, baby.

00:10:10.820 Not even freaking just off the top of that.

00:10:13.240 26 Federal Plaza.

00:10:14.200 Just in the nation.

00:10:17.140 Empties.

00:10:18.260 It is 9.12 a.m.

00:10:21.800 Despite losing their command center and virtually all their resources,

00:10:26.880 these FBI agents must mobilize now.

00:10:30.700 And the reason why I picked this documentary, guys,

00:10:43.460 it's a very unique look into how the FBI did this case from strictly the Bureau's angle.

00:10:48.360 You know, you watch a lot of documentaries out there that talk about, you know,

00:10:52.420 oh, Osama Bin Laden this, Osama Bin Laden that. 0.64

00:10:54.440 But no one really goes into the actual investigation like this one does

00:10:57.100 and how the Bureau was able to figure it out.

00:10:59.120 So I think this is going to be really interesting for you guys to see

00:11:02.100 how a federal investigation into terrorism is initiated,

00:11:05.300 investigated, and brought to a close.

00:11:11.760 September 11th, 2001 is primary day in New York City.

00:11:17.720 Public schools are just starting a new year.

00:11:21.140 The Yankees are on a roll and will host the White Sox that night.

00:11:25.700 I was driving down through the city and I was singing along to the radio.

00:11:31.880 I was just approaching to enter the Lincoln Tunnel.

00:11:35.940 I was sitting at my desk at 26 Federal Plaza.

00:11:39.840 I heard a huge explosion.

00:11:41.580 My secretary started screaming World Trade Center.

00:11:58.860 As y'all can see, 2001 didn't have the best cameras. 1.00

00:12:00.900 That thing was lagging like a motherfucker, man. 0.98

00:12:03.960 That's a L camera right there. 0.99

00:12:06.040 I saw this black smoke billowing from the North Tower.

00:12:15.040 They interrupted the music to say a jetliner had just crashed into the World Trade Center.

00:12:21.880 New York has seen nothing like this since 1945

00:12:24.060 when a B-25 bomber accidentally flew into the Empire State Building.

00:12:29.820 It was like, hit the siren, throw the light up on the roof,

00:12:32.760 and jet down Broadway.

00:12:40.460 My phone rang in the car.

00:12:42.820 It was my boss, Barry Maughan, who was the assistant director of New York at the time.

00:12:47.100 And he said, I'm going to the scene.

00:12:48.820 Meet me there.

00:12:49.660 So I made record time.

00:12:51.240 So just so you guys know, the assistant director is pretty much like one of the top guys in the New York office, okay?

00:12:57.140 And then you got that guy who just spoke.

00:12:59.420 He's an assistant special agent in charge, all right?

00:13:01.940 So he's like what you would consider like a third-line supervisor.

00:13:05.220 He's probably three away from the top.

00:13:07.040 So already the brass in the top levels of the bureau are, you know,

00:13:10.900 A, we already know more than likely this is probably going to, you know,

00:13:13.560 this is uncommon.

00:13:15.280 This looks like a terrorist attack.

00:13:16.600 We're going to have to respond to some degree.

00:13:18.240 Or if it's not a terrorist attack, at least we need to respond and make sure it wasn't.

00:13:23.300 So as you guys can see, this is before the age of cell phones.

00:13:27.020 So, you know, he probably got a beep or something like that and told him,

00:13:29.860 hey, we need to meet up at this location.

00:13:32.460 Going down the West Side Highway.

00:13:35.100 Red lights and siren.

00:13:36.160 The streets are teeming with panic and people evacuating.

00:13:50.240 It's a very chaotic scene.

00:13:56.200 My purpose was to get into the lobby of Tower One because that's where I was told

00:13:59.920 the police department and the fire department were meeting as the kind of initial mustering point.

00:14:06.160 I grabbed the first police officer I could.

00:14:15.500 I remember saying to him, hey, guy, where's the mobilization point? 0.98

00:14:19.380 He said, pal, I have no fucking idea. 0.69

00:14:22.840 One note of concern here at the FBI already. 0.98

00:14:26.440 Their field office in New York is located very, very close to the World Trade Center.

00:14:36.160 I saw a huge Ryder yellow rental truck parked in front of the building.

00:14:42.940 And I said, oh, my God.

00:14:44.760 And we know the history of Ryder rental trucks when it comes to truck bombs.

00:14:48.320 Yeah, Ryder rental.

00:14:49.160 That's how they got it.

00:14:50.220 And, you know, the 93 World Trade Center bombing.

00:14:53.660 And just so you guys know, look how close they are.

00:14:55.940 What is that?

00:14:56.520 What, 10 blocks maybe, if that, between the World Trade Center and FBI headquarters?

00:15:03.400 That's wild.

00:15:05.500 I saw it.

00:15:06.020 And mind you guys, in 1993, I have done a breakdown on this as well on the Feta Channel, guys.

00:15:10.240 They tried to take down the World Trade Center with a rental truck armed with explosives.

00:15:15.180 A huge Ryder yellow rental truck parked in front of the building.

00:15:21.120 And I said, oh, my God.

00:15:22.960 And we know the history of Ryder rental trucks when it comes to truck bombs and, you know, IEDs.

00:15:28.820 It was a Ryder truck that exploded in the underground garage of the world.

00:15:32.840 I broke this case down, too, guys.

00:15:34.140 Check it out.

00:15:34.600 It's on my documentary playlist.

00:15:36.660 I went into detail on this, on the 1993 World Trade Center bombing with the attacks, excuse me, with the terrorists that were involved in this plot.

00:15:43.800 World Trade Center, eight years earlier.

00:15:49.640 26 Federal Plaza is not safe at this time.

00:15:52.960 They didn't know if it was a target, if it was being targeted.

00:15:57.320 We all had the same goal, and that is to get out.

00:16:01.040 Everyone in the FBI office is immediately forced to abandon their desks, leaving behind computers, files, secure phone lines, virtually every tool they have to do their jobs.

00:16:22.160 And all the agents are unnerved.

00:16:38.780 What did we miss?

00:16:40.860 Could we have prevented this?

00:16:42.460 I'll tell y'all this, just from my personal experience and training, anytime there's a terrorist attack, the FBI starts stressing, yo, they already know what time it is.

00:16:54.820 They're going to, you know, initiate the entire country pretty much to come in and help them run the investigation.

00:17:01.520 So, anytime, guys, some type of attack like this happens, whether it's 1993 World Trade Center bombing, 9-11, the Boston Marathon bombing, anything like that where it's successful, bro, the Bureau is going to be stressed.

00:17:16.240 Everybody's going to be stressed, to be honest, because even other agencies come in and start helping as well.

00:17:20.820 You know, I told you guys about the Boston Marathon bombing.

00:17:23.860 When that bombing happened, I was actually in Boston, guys, and what ended up happening was they had to, they used other agencies.

00:17:31.000 I remember going into the command center, and I went with an agent when I was an intern, and we went ahead and got a lead and ran it down in, like, Somerville or something like that.

00:17:38.540 I had to go interview some person that had given a tip, and they were just running down leads.

00:17:42.020 So, everyone gets involved whenever a terrorist attack of, like, this magnitude gets, happens.

00:17:46.680 And from all directions were your peers, your FBI colleagues.

00:17:56.260 It was at that point we were instructed to go to the playground in Chinatown, and that was our rally point for headcount.

00:18:05.820 The FBI has only a loose contingency plan for disasters, and the New York office is already facing huge demands.

00:18:14.660 Locate and organize its agents, rescue as many people as possible from the towers, and launch what they know will become a massive investigation.

00:18:26.460 Yeah, guys, anytime something crazy like this happens, the office's chief, you know, number one responsibility right away is to make sure their personnel are secure.

00:18:34.040 And I remember when I was an agency agent myself, they had this software on your phone where, you know, that would basically, people would make jokes and say,

00:18:44.900 it's the track where we are to make sure that we're working.

00:18:46.760 But you would use it to, like, check in any time you were doing some type of, whether it was you were working on a case or you were out and about doing surveillance or whatever it may be,

00:18:55.820 or there was any type of situation where an emergency was happening and they needed to get a hold of agents,

00:19:01.960 they would use that software and you would check in and make sure that you were good, right, and flooding, hurricanes, anything, natural disasters, whatever.

00:19:07.980 But in this situation, they have to do it by hand because, again, this is 2001.

00:19:11.400 So they have to go ahead and try to communicate, you know, this is before the age of cell phones like that, guys. 0.97

00:19:16.400 If you had a cell phone in 2001, you were a fucking boss, you know. 0.96

00:19:19.540 So text messaging was relatively new. 0.97

00:19:22.520 So this was something that, you know, was fairly difficult to do.

00:19:26.700 In today's day and age, it's like, oh, that's not a big deal.

00:19:28.800 Just sent out a mass text and everybody's going to see it.

00:19:31.240 It doesn't happen like that in, you know, 2001.

00:19:33.480 But as they tried to do all three simultaneously, minutes are ticking by.

00:19:44.120 Yeah, that's an important thing to note is that they had to, you know, make sure all their agents were good,

00:19:49.000 mobilize bomb squads, get agents involved in figuring out what the hell is going on,

00:19:53.640 coordinating with the state and locals and making sure that people are safe.

00:19:55.960 It's a massive effort to do this without the use of cell phones and Internet to the same sophistication that we have today, guys.

00:20:02.240 It was groaning louder and louder.

00:20:08.280 It was like the building was crying.

00:20:14.780 As you looked at it, it kind of rumble, rumble, rumble, rumble after it made its left sway, right sway.

00:20:23.660 And it got louder and louder and the ground was moving.

00:20:28.340 And it made a slight, like, heave up, almost as if it was taking its last breath.

00:20:36.240 And all of a sudden, you can just hear this huge kaboom.

00:20:43.240 Oh, my God!

00:20:48.240 Oh, my God!

00:20:50.240 Oh, my God!

00:20:52.240 Oh, my God!

00:20:54.240 Oh, my God!

00:20:56.280 And I could just hear each floor dropping.

00:20:58.840 Shh! 0.97

00:20:59.820 Shh! 0.97

00:21:00.620 Shh! 0.97

00:21:03.320 The ground just began to shake. 1.00

00:21:14.780 Oh, shit! 1.00

00:21:15.700 The front got him! 1.00

00:21:16.580 We got him!

00:21:17.040 We got him!

00:21:17.220 We got him!

00:21:18.280 Oh! 0.60

00:21:18.940 If the New York office hadn't done a roll call that took the time it had, the agents

00:21:28.780 easily could have been inside the crash area, if not inside the tower itself.

00:21:48.940 What happened?

00:22:17.340 It collapsed.

00:22:19.920 The top floors collapsed down.

00:22:23.840 I saw it blow and then ran like hell.

00:22:27.260 I've got 69, but I can still run.

00:22:33.440 That is wild, guys.

00:22:34.720 Just debris and asbestos everywhere.

00:22:37.020 And they had talked about this to them.

00:22:38.260 When we break down the conspiracy theory videos, like one of the issues with the Twin Towers,

00:22:42.920 guys, it was filled with asbestos, man, which is like a very toxic building, I said ingredient,

00:22:49.960 like building material for building a building slash skyscrapers.

00:22:55.200 So this is all all over the place.

00:22:57.140 This is like all over the air in Manhattan.

00:22:59.980 So this is wildness.

00:23:01.500 As you guys can see, it's just a cloud of abestos and dust.

00:23:05.380 There's got to be fire in the trap back there, don't you?

00:23:09.140 I just remember staring at it, and all I could say was, oh, the World Trade Center's gone.

00:23:22.900 Both of them are gone.

00:23:24.140 It was empty space.

00:23:25.220 When it settled, you could hear in the background the chirping that was so loud from their World Trade Center.

00:23:46.100 It's almost like cicadas in the summer.

00:23:48.520 Except with a mechanical pitch.

00:24:00.140 It was the trackers on the firemen.

00:24:04.120 It's the sound that the protection gear makes when the firemen stops moving.

00:24:18.520 The world is in shock.

00:24:34.400 New York is paralyzed.

00:24:36.700 And the FBI, whose mission has only become more urgent, is in disarray.

00:24:43.440 Agents are unable to communicate with or even locate each other.

00:24:48.520 2001 technology right there, guys.

00:24:53.820 L-2001 technology.

00:24:58.100 Things that we take for granted today were non-existent back then.

00:25:02.460 I turned and started running up BC Street.

00:25:07.460 And I ran to where my office was.

00:25:10.680 My secretary, I don't think she recognized me.

00:25:13.360 It was like everyone else.

00:25:14.540 We looked like zombies with white dust on us.

00:25:18.520 I went into the bathroom and cleared my airways and tried to clean up my face and hands as best I could.

00:25:25.180 A group of FBI agents had commandeered a, you know, brokerage, I think it was Morgan Stanley or somebody, had an office across the street from the Trade Center.

00:25:33.800 I recognized the technology then, telecommunication technology, was much different.

00:25:51.260 There was a phone bank of like six or seven pay phones.

00:25:55.460 Had a cop stand by the phone so no one used them.

00:25:58.540 And we opened up lines.

00:26:07.780 I'm talking to Washington and I said, what's going on there?

00:26:11.440 And they had the bad report that the Supreme Court had just been hit. 1.00

00:26:16.540 Oh, shit. 0.99

00:26:17.360 It is becoming apparent no one anywhere knows what's happening. 1.00

00:26:22.960 The only thing that's clear is the New York office of the FBI must find out who did this.

00:26:32.820 Debris is falling from the sky.

00:26:35.240 All of the buildings in the immediate area were being evacuated.

00:26:38.180 You have to have a nerve center.

00:26:42.960 We had to have a location and we had to have one very quickly.

00:26:47.420 So I was given the assignment to find a suitable forward command post.

00:26:52.320 We're not going to go any place.

00:26:55.000 And yeah, not having a headquarters will really cripple you guys because you got to remember, man, if you don't have a place where you have secure computers, access to your databases, access to, you know, looking at records, files, etc.

00:27:05.680 That really hinders you as an investigator.

00:27:08.240 So, you know, let's not let's definitely not undermine the monumental tasks that this, you know, assistant special agent in charge is tasked with doing.

00:27:16.860 You need to essentially find a way to get all your agents to one location, be able to have access to equipment, sophisticated equipment at that secure phone lines, etc.

00:27:27.020 Because anytime you deal with terrorism, bam, automatically stuff's going to end up having to be classified a certain level.

00:27:31.160 You're going to have to adhere to all those classification rules and regulations when it comes to dealing with classified documents.

00:27:38.340 So this is a huge task and a huge undertaking.

00:27:41.200 And the fact that they can't even use their own building to conduct the investigation is wild, guys.

00:27:46.480 So I can only imagine how many hardships you would have.

00:27:51.760 They probably had to and you guys are going to see how they overcame this here.

00:27:54.520 But they also probably had to have other satellite offices as well set up, which is identifiable as being law enforcement or the FBI.

00:28:04.080 And I said it had to be large enough to house a lot of people.

00:28:19.420 I want it secured and I want it fairly close to ground zero.

00:28:24.800 The agents, they reluctantly said, well, we could go to the 26th Street Garage.

00:28:33.060 At first, I was actually thinking, how the hell is this going to work?

00:28:36.340 I was a little bit skeptical.

00:28:37.980 It's not going to be ideal.

00:28:39.660 The 26th Street Garage is the greatest untold story of 9-11.

00:28:44.280 We made the decision to walk to the 26th Street Garage.

00:28:57.760 And as we're walking over there, we're still seeing hundreds, if not thousands of people still moving their way north.

00:29:05.340 But also, we saw hundreds of boats coming from New Jersey over towards Manhattan, trying to help people get off.

00:29:16.220 And it looked like Dunkirk.

00:29:20.800 I will say this.

00:29:21.780 One thing that was, you know, even though this is a terrible event, the good thing about 9-11 is it united the people, man.

00:29:27.560 So many people came out to help each other.

00:29:28.960 Same thing happened with the Boston Marathon bombing.

00:29:31.660 Terrible events like this really unite people and bring them together.

00:29:34.180 And you really start to see the courageous side of a lot of people that otherwise would never be courageous, putting their life on the line to help others in need.

00:29:42.220 So that's the one positive we could take away from this tragic event.

00:29:47.340 That's when we first started hearing the military jets.

00:29:50.580 I knew that it was war.

00:29:54.200 When we first got there, SWAT was setting up command and control and securing the area with razor wire.

00:30:00.920 They were arming those of us that were outside to set up a perimeter.

00:30:05.500 We were given long arms, so shotguns and MP5s and MP10s, which looks like a little machine gun.

00:30:12.860 I remember walking up the ramp.

00:30:14.660 I'll tell you guys this.

00:30:15.580 Not many agencies give out MP5s anymore.

00:30:18.720 That is a classic right there, man.

00:30:20.740 You ain't going to get...

00:30:21.920 If you see any special agent nowadays with an MP5, they've probably been on the...

00:30:26.760 You know, they've probably been in law enforcement for a very long time.

00:30:29.480 A lot of agencies phased out the MP5.

00:30:31.880 You can smell oil and smell brake fluid.

00:30:34.380 Opening the door to this massive space.

00:30:37.620 It wasn't so much the smells that bothered you.

00:30:44.460 It was the visual.

00:30:46.280 The garage, where the cars are, where you get your oil changed, where the fender is hanging off, where you get the side light replaced.

00:30:52.980 It's hard to imagine that this was going to be the epicenter of the investigation.

00:30:56.780 As agents arrive on foot by the hundreds, FBI logistics teams make space by towing out 500 cars.

00:31:08.000 It was a grease monkey location, but, you know, ugly's okay.

00:31:12.620 No one's looking for, you know, the Waldorf Astoria in the middle of a crisis.

00:31:17.280 FBI teams are scouring the city for office equipment and even buying it on their own credit cards.

00:31:24.420 People trying to put tables up so people would have somewhere...

00:31:28.460 That goes to show, like, the need and want to find out who was responsible for this.

00:31:33.640 To work, get computers in there.

00:31:36.040 They had a number of tables lined up with folding chairs.

00:31:40.760 They set up the computers.

00:31:42.800 They ran the lines.

00:31:44.360 Banks of telephones.

00:31:45.900 Miles and miles of wire.

00:31:48.200 And it actually looked like a big hall of spaghetti.

00:31:51.120 I mean, there are wires hanging from all over the place, but they were necessary because regular phones weren't working.

00:31:59.680 It was just logistically an overwhelming undertaking.

00:32:03.880 As we were now seeing the 26th Street garage take its form, it was almost like an FBI baby being made in the womb because everything that the full-grown FBI mechanism had downtown was now coming to form.

00:32:19.480 It was getting legs.

00:32:20.260 It was getting arms.

00:32:21.160 It was breathing.

00:32:21.860 It was starting to stretch out.

00:32:23.200 You guys are probably wondering why they picked the garage.

00:32:24.940 Well, a couple reasons, man.

00:32:25.860 Number one, if a plane, you know, tries...

00:32:27.520 You ain't going to hit a garage with a plane, you know.

00:32:29.420 That's number one.

00:32:29.940 Number two, they probably had this place, you know, at the time.

00:32:32.440 Hell, I didn't even know that they had set up the 9-11 command center in the garage.

00:32:37.900 So it was fairly secured.

00:32:39.420 People didn't really know about it like that.

00:32:40.680 You probably had to be law enforcement to be allowed in.

00:32:43.540 And then it was safe from any type of plane attacks, right?

00:32:46.220 So, you know, even though it didn't look the best from a safety and security standpoint, pretty smart.

00:32:52.040 And on top of that, it wasn't far from the main office and it wasn't far from ground zero.

00:32:56.120 So they were able to be close to the scene while still simultaneously being close to their home office to get all the equipment in and, you know, expedite the process of moving on over.

00:33:04.740 There were different areas for the bosses to sit, for management to sit, for the case agents to sit.

00:33:09.820 Incredibly, within just a few hours, the garage begins to function as an FBI command post.

00:33:26.200 All right, now the case starts to take shape.

00:33:45.940 For the planes, they were obtained fairly quickly from the airlines and started to be vetted out both through agency files, FBI files, and getting multiple hits on the subjects.

00:33:59.900 On 9-11, one of the passports of one of the hijackers was found a block or so from one of the towers in the debris, and that was brought into the command center.

00:34:10.720 So you were fairly early on were identifying who the hijackers were.

00:34:14.960 And just so you guys know, this woman, Mary Jo White, United States Attorney in the Southern District of New York, she was the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York at that time,

00:34:23.020 which means she was the top prosecutor for the feds in the Southern District of New York at the time, which the Southern District of New York, guys, is probably one of the most aggressive and prestigious United States Attorney's offices in the country.

00:34:37.600 And to become a United States Attorney, you've got to be appointed by the president.

00:34:40.480 So this woman was the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York back during this time period, which speaks volumes as to what's it called, the severity of this investigation and how important it was.

00:34:54.240 I mean, this was everyone's number one priority at the time.

00:34:56.580 So, you know, I was I'm not surprised.

00:34:59.100 I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, she was involved in every single situation going on with this investigation.

00:35:05.900 All of the AUSAs that were actually prosecuting the case of the United States Attorneys, probably there were more than hell.

00:35:12.140 I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't like 10 AUSAs on this case working in tandem together just because of how much of a monstrosity it was, how big it was. 0.93

00:35:22.040 But you wanted everyone else.

00:35:28.200 You know, we photographed everything, including aerial mapping, photographs of all of Ground Zero.

00:35:36.120 All of that information was funneled back to the garage.

00:35:38.800 I was involved with a lead group.

00:35:43.520 Any information that they found in the investigation, whether it be the passport, the flight manifest, any information that the lead investigators wanted, followed up on or needed, the lead desk would pass out a packet.

00:35:57.800 OK, so let me break that down real quick, what she means by a lead desk, et cetera. 0.99

00:36:03.380 So when a terrorist attack like this happens, right, so the FBI sets up a command post, OK, typically it's going to be at their field office.

00:36:09.760 Right. And I know this from personal experience, man.

00:36:11.900 So like the goddamn video, because you're not going to get information like this anywhere else. 0.98

00:36:17.340 OK, because I personally have been in FBI offices during a terrorist attack like the Boston Marathon bombing. 0.99

00:36:24.760 So they set up a command post and every law enforcement officer in the area, whether you work for, you know, Homeland Security, Customs, whatever it is.

00:36:32.040 Right. You work for DEA, ATF, whatever local police officers that work for the state, county, municipal.

00:36:39.060 People, they all come in and they get leads, investigators, right, detectives, special agents, you know, postal inspectors, everybody.

00:36:44.680 They go in and the FBI generates leads as the FBI gets leads.

00:36:48.820 Right. They're passing out leads to other law enforcement officers that are assisting in the investigation.

00:36:54.580 And those people go out and run on those leads.

00:36:56.560 Any leads that are like, you know, like from a random caller or aren't like maybe the hottest leads, they pass out to other agencies.

00:37:02.660 All the hottest leads stay in house, obviously, for the lead case agents to do the investigation with.

00:37:09.520 OK. And in this case, there's probably going to be one main case agent that's running the overall investigation.

00:37:14.480 And then a couple of co-case agents that are helping them with such a massive investigation. Right.

00:37:18.840 So. And the New York field office is the head is the is the is the lead field office running the investigation.

00:37:25.820 So they're the ones going ahead and sending out the the leads to other areas, jurisdictions, whatever.

00:37:31.740 And then the Southern District of New York is the lead prosecutorial office.

00:37:34.900 OK. So on one side, you got the New York field office.

00:37:37.800 Right. FBI lead agency.

00:37:39.540 Then you got from the prosecutorial side, this Southern District of New York is the lead prosecuting a USA's office.

00:37:45.500 Right. Bam. They work together and they go ahead and investigate the case alongside of each other.

00:37:49.960 Right. This is why they have a USA's on this on this documentary as well as FBI agents, because you can't get anything done at the federal level without having the USA's office intimately involved.

00:37:58.160 OK, so. So the lead comes in, she's involved, she's her job is to pass the leads out to other FBI agents and other law enforcement personnel. 0.53

00:38:06.120 They run those leads down all the best leads they keep in house.

00:38:08.760 So when you have a case like this and you have a phone line open and you have a bunch of information coming in, you need to go ahead and get these leads vetted out quickly.

00:38:16.020 So that's why they're passing it out to people, distributing the labor so they can go ahead and work the case faster to figure out who the hell is involved.

00:38:23.100 Because remember, guys. When this originally happened, they didn't know if more attacks were coming, so they need to work off a speed.

00:38:29.380 OK, they didn't know who all these people were. They didn't have all the information we have nowadays in twenty twenty two.

00:38:33.480 So they were working fast to try to prevent anything else from happening.

00:38:37.400 So they're moving with a sense of urgency. Right.

00:38:42.840 Like Mission Impossible, you open it up and there's a picture of an individual and in it would be how they're associated with the case.

00:38:51.200 They could have been in Mohammed Atta's address book or it could have been.

00:38:56.480 This is a number that one of the hijackers called 15 times in the first week.

00:39:01.260 So we would go out and pay.

00:39:02.540 See, and you can see how this can easily spiderweb out into anything like they're over here going after people.

00:39:06.720 And in address books, phone numbers that might be off and all of that stuff has to be followed up on.

00:39:12.240 So imagine thousands upon thousands upon thousands of leads like this.

00:39:15.420 Remember, guys, there were 19 hijackers. OK, so that's a follow up on each and every single one of those hijackers.

00:39:21.840 Whole life, everyone associated with them, everyone that talk with them, etc.

00:39:25.320 Now you can see how this can easily spiderweb into a massive investigation that requires massive manpower.

00:39:31.720 Visit to that location.

00:39:33.120 The Boston office had found a briefcase at the airport and it had some information as to what they were going to do.

00:39:44.440 A handwritten letter was contained in Mohammed Atta's briefcase that was basically a declaration of we who are about to die for the cause remain strong and resolved.

00:39:58.880 It was that type of rhetoric to sacrifice their own lives for the purpose of freeing up the Arabic world from the great Satan, the United States. 0.83

00:40:13.620 And that same letter was recovered in Shanksville during the crime scene search.

00:40:18.180 And it was a third copy of that same letter found.

00:40:21.260 So that was really a key piece of evidence that, you know, linked all of them together as well.

00:40:26.920 Bam.

00:40:29.520 And that comes from collaborative efforts.

00:40:33.460 You know, obviously, the Boston field office taking action and moving quickly and trying to find, you know, leads because some of the hijackers flew out of the Logan International Airport out of Boston.

00:40:43.280 Clues are coming in.

00:40:44.980 Names are going up.

00:40:46.120 Charts are being made.

00:40:47.220 Whiteboards are being drawn.

00:40:48.640 Lines are being connected.

00:40:49.820 Right.

00:40:51.260 And so that was broken down initially in a handwritten whiteboard.

00:40:54.920 But then as information was refined and identified more specifically, then it was memorialized in writing in charts, which served a very useful purpose in terms of comparison of one flight against another.

00:41:10.020 You know, who was together, who wasn't together.

00:41:12.320 Once we had the connection between the actual hijackers to now begin the process of doing a complete vertical, a dissection, if you will, of that human being, their entire life, you know, where they were born.

00:41:26.560 Yeah, see, then they're going ahead and like figuring out, you know, everything about this guy.

00:41:31.500 And this in this case, we refer to Mohammed out of Egyptian and a couple other, you know, of the hijackers were from all different parts, you know, of the world in the Middle East.

00:41:41.480 And and here right here, you guys can see here, this is a part of an FBI.

00:41:45.700 Um, uh, what's it called reports?

00:41:49.740 OK, so, yeah, they have to do all the work raised where they went to school 302.

00:41:55.960 Sorry, guys, that's what I was thinking in my head.

00:41:57.300 I had a brain fart right there.

00:41:58.560 The FBI report, if I'm not mistaken, is called 302 DEA.

00:42:02.540 It's called the DEA form.

00:42:03.920 Six is their version of a report.

00:42:05.280 I'm going to double check it just to make sure I'm right.

00:42:06.760 But I'm almost certain FBI report is a FBI 302 form.

00:42:10.440 When did they come to the United States?

00:42:11.860 Where did they stay?

00:42:12.900 Pulling reams and reams and reams of phone records and financial records.

00:42:18.660 How did they operate here in the United States?

00:42:20.580 How long were they here?

00:42:21.940 You were able to see the fruits of your labor.

00:42:24.680 You were able to see all the information that you were bringing actually come to fruition in form.

00:42:28.960 You were seeing links being made based on work you had done.

00:42:33.920 The 9-11 investment.

00:42:35.340 OK, yes, it's a 302, guys.

00:42:36.800 It's basically the report form for FBI.

00:42:42.020 Investigation is already becoming the largest and most complex in the Bureau's history.

00:42:47.760 It's all hands on deck around the clock.

00:42:51.980 At the same time, the New York office is also responsible for thousands of other cases.

00:42:57.420 Yeah, as you guys can see, the FBI has really small badges.

00:42:59.460 A lot of people make jokes on the FBI's badge.

00:43:01.380 And then they carry Glock 22s.

00:43:03.820 No, yeah, I think they carry Glock 40 calibers.

00:43:06.900 I think everyone's switching back to 9 mils, though, now.

00:43:09.900 They pretty much figured out that 40 caliber is not that much better than 9 mil.

00:43:14.340 But yeah, that's what FBI agents typically carry is Glock handguns.

00:43:17.660 This is and they can't be dropped.

00:43:20.760 It didn't matter if you were on a Russian organized crime squad or work in the Gambino family or you were following Russian spies.

00:43:29.560 You had undercovers out there whose lives were on the line that you had to worry about.

00:43:34.140 You had handlers that needed to be talked to.

00:43:36.500 So you guys can see, look, state police is involved.

00:43:38.820 You got NYPD.

00:43:39.640 This guy is Secret Service right here.

00:43:41.300 You can see the amount of manpower that's being put towards this investigation.

00:43:47.020 Already in this photo alone, I can see multiple law enforcement agencies, you know.

00:43:52.460 So this was a full effort from everybody involved.

00:43:57.380 I can't tell which agency this guy works for.

00:43:59.460 It's federal, though, but I can tell from the badge.

00:44:00.960 This guy, this looks like the top of an ATF badge.

00:44:05.780 You got NYPD over here.

00:44:07.840 Secret Service, like I said before here.

00:44:09.720 This guy is New York State Police Bureau guy, Bureau guy.

00:44:16.320 There's probably a Bureau guy here.

00:44:18.400 So, yeah, man, everyone working.

00:44:21.900 You had victims that needed justice.

00:44:26.240 It's very hard to tell an FBI agent.

00:44:29.080 You need to switch this other thing off.

00:44:30.960 Look, New Jersey State Police, NYPD again.

00:44:36.980 And, yeah, like I told you all before, everyone had to drop what they were doing and do 9-11.

00:44:41.520 You know, like these guys that were doing this organized crime and, yo, we're working at Gambino's.

00:44:45.860 We're working Russian spies. 1.00

00:44:47.200 They were basically like, listen, stupid. 1.00

00:44:49.220 You're going to come on over and you're going to do 9-11 now. 1.00

00:44:51.360 Sorry.

00:44:52.160 Everyone is going to be involved in this investigation.

00:44:55.300 So, yeah, that's what happens when a terrorist attack comes, man.

00:45:00.200 The FBI drops everything they're doing and they're going to figure out who the hell did it, which is why if you're a terrorist, they're going to catch you, bro.

00:45:07.200 There ain't no way that they're not going to find you.

00:45:09.660 For example, 6 a.m. to 6 p.m.

00:45:11.840 Nobody got days off.

00:45:13.620 There was no days off.

00:45:15.340 We had a job to do.

00:45:16.340 We were going to do it.

00:45:18.400 You didn't want to leave.

00:45:20.180 You wanted to, first you wanted to just never pause from the work that you were doing.

00:45:25.240 And you got the greatest comfort from being around literally hundreds and hundreds of people who felt the same way and were doing the same thing with that level of commitment.

00:45:36.320 After an 18-hour day.

00:45:39.600 All right.

00:45:39.840 So there he is right there.

00:45:40.840 FBI.

00:45:41.480 And as you can see here, it says assistant special agent in charge, which I'll go ahead.

00:45:46.960 Let me break this down for you real quick so you guys kind of know how the FBI chain of command goes.

00:45:51.100 I've broken this down before, but I think on today's episode, it's even more important.

00:45:54.980 So you got special agent, right?

00:45:57.380 And remember, guys, special agents are also known as 18-11s and or criminal investigators.

00:46:01.020 That is pretty much the government job series for special agents, 18-11.

00:46:05.240 That's why the name of this channel is called Fed1811.

00:46:06.840 I was a former special agent with Homeland Screen Investigations.

00:46:09.560 You know, whether you work for DEA, HSI, ATF, whatever, all of us are considered special agents, right?

00:46:14.540 So you got – and that goes up from a GS1 – from a GS typically 5 all the way to a GS-13, okay?

00:46:20.140 And that is like the pay scale that they use for the federal government.

00:46:23.320 So that's special agent.

00:46:24.340 Then you have something called the supervisory special agent and or group supervisor, okay?

00:46:29.400 That's a GS-14.

00:46:30.800 He's a first-line supervisor.

00:46:32.020 Typically, they are in charge of 5 to 10 special agents underneath them that basically do their investigations.

00:46:37.560 They're the ones that carry the cases, and the supervisor manages all those agents that carry cases, okay?

00:46:41.940 Supervisors do not carry cases because they're considered management at this point.

00:46:46.460 Then above the supervisory special agent, something called an assistant special agent in charge or an ASAC, okay?

00:46:52.460 And ASAC is basically the second-line supervisor that oversees not only that supervisory special agent but all the agents underneath them.

00:46:59.460 And to top it off, they typically manage a couple of supervisors. 0.56

00:47:02.640 So they have multiple groups and or squads underneath them, okay?

00:47:06.100 So a typical breakdown might be like this.

00:47:07.780 You got one special agent, right, who's a part of, let's say, organized crime.

00:47:10.720 Then you got a supervisory special agent that is over him in organized crime, and you got 10 other agents in that group.

00:47:16.080 Then you got an assistant special agent in charge on top of all of them.

00:47:18.840 But that special agent in charge might also oversee the violent crime task force.

00:47:23.620 He might also oversee cyber crimes.

00:47:27.120 He might also oversee foreign intelligence, right, or counterespionage, right?

00:47:32.760 So he might oversee five or six different groups that assistant special agent in charge, right?

00:47:36.720 Then on top of the assistant special agent in charge, there's something called typically for the FBI, it just goes right into SAC or special agent in charge.

00:47:45.180 He's the top guy.

00:47:46.840 He runs the office, okay?

00:47:48.620 But in other agencies, they got something called a deputy special agent in charge, which is like for HSI, they still have them, which is the second guy in charge.

00:47:55.200 They're the second guy underneath the SAC.

00:47:57.300 So one more time, from top to bottom, it goes special agent in charge.

00:48:00.900 Underneath him, not in FBI, but for other agencies, you have a deputy special agent in charge.

00:48:05.720 Then underneath him, you got an assistant special agent in charge.

00:48:07.960 Then underneath him, you got a supervisory special agent, also known as the SSA.

00:48:10.960 And then you got a regular special agent who carries cases, okay, guys?

00:48:14.400 So that is a breakdown of how most federal agencies are structure-wise from top to bottom, all right?

00:48:22.260 Let's get back to the video.

00:48:25.540 Like the video for all the intel.

00:48:27.120 I had a lot of difficulty falling. 0.99

00:48:28.440 All this goddamn information I'm giving y'all, goddammit. 0.99

00:48:30.900 Yelling again, sauce like this anywhere else on the internet. 0.99

00:48:32.660 That is when I would stop and think of what had occurred, what the losses were to firemen, police.

00:48:43.860 And that caused me a lot of anxiety, stress, just thinking about all that.

00:48:51.320 It's not the kind of work you can walk away from.

00:48:54.660 A lot of people, for a time, were working day and night because...

00:48:58.380 These guys are asleep on the...

00:48:59.620 I mean, hey, man, that's kind of what happens.

00:49:03.240 I mean, just so you guys know, the state and locals, a lot of the times, I'll go ahead and say it.

00:49:06.920 This might not be a popular opinion, but I got to say it.

00:49:09.980 The state and locals, a lot of times, work harder than the special agents, guys.

00:49:12.880 And the reason why is because the state and locals get overtime. 0.85

00:49:15.480 So they're incentivized to work extra hours.

00:49:17.080 The feds, we don't get overtime. 0.99

00:49:19.100 Feds get something called LEAP, law enforcement availability pay. 0.99

00:49:21.820 And what LEAP basically does, guys, is it gives you 25% of your base salary, okay?

00:49:27.500 So I'll explain this.

00:49:29.560 This is how the feds get paid. 0.99

00:49:31.080 Let's say you make 50K per year base salary, right?

00:49:34.500 Then you get an entry-level agent or whatever, right?

00:49:37.320 Then you get 25% on top of that, law enforcement availability pay.

00:49:40.440 And what that basically covers is you working random hours, uncontrollable overtime, going out late at night, doing interviews, staying late, et cetera, right?

00:49:48.300 You're expected to work 50 hours per week, which means 10-hour days, right?

00:49:51.380 So they account that into your LEAP.

00:49:54.920 And what that does is it's basically like kind of a catch-all for all the overtime that you're expected to make.

00:49:59.680 So if your base salary is $50,000 per year, you add another $12,500 to that, and that's going to make it $62,500 per year based on LEAP.

00:50:09.760 Now, as you move up the ranks, right, after, you know, between four to five years, you'll be making well over $100,000 as a special agent.

00:50:16.540 However, you don't get overtime opportunities like the staying locals do.

00:50:19.840 So in places like New Jersey, New York, et cetera, where the staying locals get paid very well, a lot of times they out-earn special agents.

00:50:24.920 Man, I knew one guy that was a police officer in Connecticut.

00:50:27.040 He made like $300,000 in one year just off of milk in overtime because a lot of times there's no cap.

00:50:31.400 But with the feds, there's a cap.

00:50:32.840 And on top of that, it's very difficult to get overtime.

00:50:35.060 The only way that you can get overtime as a special agent typically are one of two to three ways.

00:50:39.780 Number one, you work for a secret service or diplomatic security service, and you do a lot of protection details, which makes you obviously inevitably has you working very, very long hours, right?

00:50:48.260 So that's one way.

00:50:49.040 And then the other way is if you're doing like wiretaps or you're doing like scheduled work where like you're planning to work on a holiday or whatever, then you can go ahead and, you know, put it for overtime, whatever.

00:50:58.900 But the first two ways I mentioned wiretaps where, you know, you're really busting your ass and working a lot because you're listening to phones actively 24-7 and security protection details.

00:51:08.400 Those are the two main ways that federal agents, 1811 special agents, whatever you want to call it, typically get overtime.

00:51:14.540 But it's extremely difficult to get overtime for the feds, but the state and locals get it all the time.

00:51:19.120 Hence why we got this New Jersey state police guy probably falling asleep here because, you know, probably working a lot of hours at this point.

00:51:26.040 As the stakes were high on both sides.

00:51:33.860 As agents frantically begin to unravel the 9-11 plot, another major threat emerges.

00:51:41.500 The second wave of attacks may be coming.

00:51:45.760 You're thinking we've got to solve this case.

00:51:49.080 That's synapses firing, years of habit.

00:51:52.120 That's what they'd been raised to do.

00:51:54.340 But it was also crystal clear that they had to stop the next thing.

00:51:59.100 What was the next thing?

00:52:01.080 Where would the next thing be?

00:52:03.740 Is it possible that it could be bigger or worse?

00:52:07.580 We're all concerned.

00:52:10.080 Was this the tip of the iceberg?

00:52:12.080 Was there more to follow?

00:52:14.060 You had the Pentagon attack.

00:52:15.740 And, of course, the plane that went down to Shanksville Flight 93.

00:52:20.100 So that's four major, major attacks all in one.

00:52:24.040 What's to say there aren't five, six, ten, twelve?

00:52:27.220 We have to find out whatever there is that one can find out so that if there is another plot on the way, whether today, tomorrow, next week, next month, we stop it.

00:52:39.280 The clear assumption by federal lawmen is that these terrorists had help from accomplices who may still be in the United States.

00:52:49.140 What is not as clear is whether those accomplices were only bit players in this historic assault or whether they may still have still to be launched terrorist plans of their own.

00:52:57.900 As the dust was still rising, there were two different mindsets.

00:53:02.660 There was a brand new FBI director.

00:53:05.220 His name was Robert Mueller, and he was a very exacting manager.

00:53:11.700 He asked him,

00:53:12.440 Donald Trump's best friend.

00:53:14.800 Oh, man.

00:53:17.000 A million questions.

00:53:19.180 Right after the World Trade Center attack, Robert Mueller came to the garage to see me.

00:53:26.360 First, to you, the director of the FBI, who will subsequently introduce the attorney general, but we are all very pleased and honored to have the director of the FBI, Bob Mueller, here.

00:53:37.520 A morning meeting with Director Mueller in the days after 9-11 was not just a morning meeting.

00:53:42.620 It was a cross-examination.

00:53:43.940 This is a group that you can see turned this haunting garage into a huge command post.

00:53:50.420 So when you kind of think of that personality, the ability to run that case from headquarters for somebody who wanted to be that hands-on was the way he was leaning.

00:54:00.380 You should know this is a great, hard-working group.

00:54:03.000 They've been doing it every day without a day off, working 12 to 16 hours.

00:54:08.200 And he said that he was going to take the investigation back to Washington.

00:54:14.420 With that...

00:54:15.060 Whoa. 0.99

00:54:16.120 So let me explain to you guys how big of a fucking deal that is. 0.99

00:54:19.100 Let me really... 0.98

00:54:21.180 Because people don't understand this.

00:54:23.920 And unless you're an investigator or, you know, you've done criminal cases at a high level, you'll really grasp what the fuck is going on with that, you know, request here to take the case away.

00:54:35.240 When you put your blood, sweat, and tears into something, and you are running down leads, and you're writing reports, and you're interviewing a bunch of suspects, you've got informants giving you information.

00:54:45.460 You've got hours of surveillance footage that you've been going through and doing all the work, going through phone tolls, you know, going through passport records, going through immigration records.

00:54:54.360 Because none of these guys were U.S. citizens, right?

00:54:56.480 And you have state and locals with you.

00:54:58.100 You have immigration there.

00:54:58.940 You've got custom service there. 0.99

00:54:59.900 You've got every agency imaginable helping you, and everyone's busting their ass. 1.00

00:55:03.620 And for the director to come in and say, yo, we're going to take this case and move it to headquarters, you're going to be like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:55:12.020 No, we've been busting their ass doing this. 0.99

00:55:14.700 We're not going to do all this work and then pass it to HQ, those paper-pushing fucking losers, because let me keep it a thousand with you guys, any federal agency, whether it's HSI, FBI, DEA, et cetera, you go to headquarters, you go to Washington, D.C., those guys ain't doing shit. 1.00

00:55:28.220 They're wearing suits all day, fucking pushing paper. 0.99

00:55:30.560 Those guys rarely, if ever, actually do investigations. 0.99

00:55:33.620 Okay, guys?

00:55:34.700 So, you know, you're coming from a field office like New York, by the way, which the FBI in New York is an extremely prestigious office.

00:55:42.600 You're coming from the Southern District of New York, right?

00:55:45.820 An extremely prestigious prosecutorial office.

00:55:48.360 They've taken down some of the worst criminals in La Cosa Nostra, terrorist attacks, et cetera.

00:55:53.120 And you got the FBI.

00:55:54.860 There's a lot of egos here.

00:55:56.240 Okay? 0.99

00:55:56.760 FBI in New York and the Southern District of New York does not want to give this thing over to headquarters because, I hate to say it, but headquarters, regardless of what federal agency you work for, we all know those guys don't do shit. 0.99

00:56:08.320 You know? 0.99

00:56:09.060 You know?

00:56:09.200 So, I can already imagine the anger, the frustration, and how pissed off agents would get after finding out that the director of your agency wants to move the investigation over to headquarters.

00:56:21.140 Especially when it happened in your jurisdiction, your AOR, or a.k.a. your area of responsibility is what the government calls it.

00:56:28.260 Okay? 0.98

00:56:29.120 So, you know, I just had to add a little bit of oomph to that and give you guys a little bit of emphasis as to why this is a big fucking problem. 0.96

00:56:35.980 And why, if I was a case agent, they would have to pry the case file from my dead hands. 0.95

00:56:42.760 I would not give it to them. 1.00

00:56:44.160 You know, I mean, they tried this bullshit with me before on other investigations, obviously, that aren't this type of magnitude, and I would not give the fucking case up because when you bust your ass and you're a go-getter, you will not let people take your shit. 1.00

00:56:56.800 And, yeah, I can, like, flashbacks of bad memories are coming back to me right now just from hearing this. 1.00

00:57:04.120 But let's get back into it.

00:57:07.560 Ladies and gentlemen, the director of the FBI.

00:57:09.520 Despite the fact that thousands of leads are coming into the garage and agents are working them as fast as they can,

00:57:21.160 Three weeks ago, we were all doing something else.

00:57:22.680 The entire operation is one administrative decision away from being shut down.

00:57:29.380 And within 24 hours, we all pulled together, 28 agencies.

00:57:33.220 I argued against that.

00:57:36.320 I said, Director, you cannot run an investigation at Washington.

00:57:41.540 You don't have investigators.

00:57:43.360 Disaster has produced any number of heroes.

00:57:45.640 He said, I am aware of that, so I am going to take half of your people down to Washington, D.C.

00:57:52.200 Oh, man, yo.

00:57:55.180 Yo.

00:57:55.620 And, again, me commentating as a former federal employee, I'm trying to explain to you guys the gravity of this.

00:58:04.920 So you're telling me not only are you going to take the investigation from my fucking office, you're going to take half my personnel, you're going to take the case agent, you're going to take the co-case agents, you're going to take the surveillance teams, you're going to take the guys that are involved in, that have the informants, you're going to take them to Washington, D.C.? 0.99

00:58:23.180 Fuck no. 1.00

00:58:24.480 Hell no. 1.00

00:58:25.520 So I can only imagine, like, the fucking debacle that occurred after this. 0.99

00:58:29.860 Well, let's keep watching. 0.99

00:58:32.480 Which I argued against.

00:58:34.280 So many heroes out there that we ought to do.

00:58:36.120 Yeah, he's putting it lightly.

00:58:37.080 I argued against. 0.99

00:58:37.980 I guarantee you there was a fucking shouting match. 0.98

00:58:40.160 I guarantee you, I promise you guys, like, when shit like this happens, I've been in meetings and boardrooms with management fighting over cases that were not nearly as big as this. 0.99

00:58:54.460 Okay? 0.93

00:58:55.020 We want to move this case to this AOR because we think the prosecution is going to be better, or this guy's a stronger case agent, we need to move it here, blah, blah, blah. 0.97

00:59:02.560 Bro, literally shouting matches in these offices over shit like this. 0.83

00:59:08.220 So I can only imagine this guy, his sack, all the ASACs, probably the assistant director of the New York field office, they were all probably fucking fighting with Mueller to keep this thing in New York. 0.99

00:59:21.380 Let's see what happens. 0.84

00:59:23.420 But he was the director.

00:59:27.100 He was my boss.

00:59:30.100 Then he said, that's the way it's going to happen.

00:59:34.760 He made that decision despite our best effort to convince him not to.

00:59:38.740 And we will, we will bring these individuals to justice.

00:59:42.940 Now, let me introduce the attorney general of the United States, John Ashcroft.

00:59:46.340 New York.

00:59:46.940 Yo, they had the attorney general there.

00:59:49.840 Guys, the chief law enforcement officer in the United States.

00:59:54.440 Okay?

00:59:55.100 The attorney general.

00:59:55.880 So, obviously, this goes to show the gravity of what the hell is going on here.

01:00:00.240 You got the director of the FBI, brass all over the place, and you got the attorney general in the house.

01:00:06.700 I had real strong feelings about this.

01:00:09.720 There were too many people dead.

01:00:12.200 There was too many.

01:00:12.580 Remember that USA that I told you guys about, Mary Jo, that I told you is the United States attorney for the son of the district of New York?

01:00:19.160 This dude is the attorney general.

01:00:20.820 That's her boss. 1.00

01:00:22.120 That's how high up this is going.

01:00:23.400 Too much history.

01:00:25.760 And there had to be an element of, we feel responsible for this as well, and we need to make it right.

01:00:33.460 When you think of the New York office of the FBI, we did the World Trade Center bombing.

01:00:49.240 We did the case of the blind shape.

01:00:51.140 We prevented all these other attacks.

01:00:54.560 We know all these players.

01:00:56.180 We've prosecuted them in court.

01:00:57.900 We've obtained conviction.

01:00:59.900 They're all doing life.

01:01:01.180 And we don't want something this important to be handed off to a bunch of people at headquarters.

01:01:07.380 And he wants to be polite about it. 0.99

01:01:09.040 A bunch of people at headquarters that don't do fucking jack shit because everybody knows people at headquarters don't do anything. 0.99

01:01:13.900 That's a fact. 0.99

01:01:14.600 Anyone that's a government employee will tell y'all that.

01:01:16.800 Headquarters people don't do anything.

01:01:19.320 So I know exactly how these agents feel being angry that they're trying to pry the case away from them to people that, quite frankly, aren't as competent as them.

01:01:27.000 And the New York field office has done crazy big terrorist cases in them before, prosecuted them successfully, and been able to bring justice to those involved.

01:01:35.640 So I would be mad, too.

01:01:39.000 By the morning of September 13th, the garage is fighting two battles, one against the terrorists, another to keep control of the investigation.

01:01:50.520 And it's determined to win both.

01:01:54.760 They couldn't get together between Fort Meade and Langley and the J. Edgar Hoover building.

01:02:00.720 But then when you went into that space of the garage, who was there?

01:02:05.360 NSA, CIA, FBI, NYPD, the Defense Department.

01:02:10.260 See, they had everybody there in New York working together.

01:02:12.600 But in D.C., it's way more, you know, bureaucratic. 0.98

01:02:15.460 Can't you get shit done down there? 0.96

01:02:17.240 Oh, what's your need to know? 0.99

01:02:19.600 What's your clearance level?

01:02:21.340 Do you have authorization to get this kind of documents? 1.00

01:02:24.480 Like, bro, get the fuck out of here with that bullshit, man. 1.00

01:02:27.040 That's what happens in D.C., a bunch of paper pushers that don't do real investigations, man. 1.00

01:02:31.040 Men and women from 16 intelligence agencies and all the information was on the table.

01:02:37.880 They could literally yell it across the room to the next guy.

01:02:41.800 All they're doing it the way they were supposed to do.

01:02:44.920 They couldn't get it together in Washington, but they could get it together in that garage.

01:02:48.640 More than 25 agencies begin working together.

01:02:54.660 They are outrunning Washington and determined to keep going.

01:02:58.360 So many others want to thank you for the extraordinary response to this extraordinary act of terror.

01:03:04.980 FBI Director Robert Mueller concedes the team in New York will continue to be a major driver

01:03:12.420 in what is becoming an all-consuming investigation. 0.96

01:03:16.020 Damn right, baby. Don DeMarco. 0.97

01:03:19.780 And that's a big W, you know.

01:03:21.660 Like I said before, like, I know that feeling, guys.

01:03:24.900 So for me, this is very personal.

01:03:26.320 I know that feeling of, how do I say this, of victory.

01:03:31.220 Like, I keep the case, yes.

01:03:32.920 And I can't describe it to you guys unless you go ahead and do a major investigation 0.99

01:03:36.540 and you know what it's like to have to fight for your goddamn investigation 0.97

01:03:39.520 after you've put blood, sweat, and tears, and sometimes even years into this thing. 0.98

01:03:43.460 I mean, I can't even describe it, but this is awesome that the New York field office got to keep it

01:03:48.500 because they were too invested.

01:03:50.120 You know, they had too many agencies working together.

01:03:51.920 I mean, the fact that they had the CIA and other intelligence agencies sitting right there next to them 0.91

01:03:55.740 in that fucking garage without having to worry about skiffs and all classifications 0.99

01:03:59.840 and all these other stupid-ass documents and all this bureaucratic stuff 0.99

01:04:02.280 that got us involved in 9-11 in the first place, which, by the way, just so y'all know, 0.98

01:04:05.900 a big part of the reason why 9-11 happened was because intelligence agencies didn't want to share information with the FBI, 0.58

01:04:10.300 and it took this goddamn event to unite a bunch of the federal law enforcement agencies, 0.80

01:04:13.820 hence the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, etc. 1.00

01:04:16.880 This was them realizing, fuck, the chickens have come to roost. 0.99

01:04:21.020 We got to work with each other. 1.00

01:04:22.260 No more of this bullshit about, oh, this is classified. 0.84

01:04:24.360 Oh, what's your authorization? What's your need to know? 0.99

01:04:26.080 No, fuck that shit. We got attacked. 1.00

01:04:27.720 We got to fucking hit it hard. 0.99

01:04:29.220 We got to work together. 0.98

01:04:30.120 And they got it together in New York, but they did not do that in Washington, D.C.

01:04:33.880 Hence, why New York outgunned them, outran them, and was able to push the case.

01:04:37.480 And not to mention, New York had a way better prosecutorial office with the Southern District of New York,

01:04:41.140 and I guarantee you they didn't want to give it up either on their end.

01:04:44.360 So, Mueller, you're definitely taking out, my friend.

01:04:51.280 Let me introduce the attorney general.

01:04:53.400 I was pretty frightened when I first saw the building with the new occupancy.

01:04:59.400 Martha Stewart's studio and test kitchens are on the ninth floor.

01:05:07.600 There was the razor wire.

01:05:10.660 I remember looking up and seeing guns hanging over the rooftop.

01:05:16.920 You could see the guns clearly over the parapets.

01:05:20.540 This was warfare.

01:05:21.940 I thought, well, either we're a target or we are protected.

01:05:26.280 And it was terrifying and yet comforting at the same time.

01:05:33.400 You knew who they were when they got in the elevator.

01:05:35.700 They were packing a weapon.

01:05:38.280 They were extremely serious about their jobs.

01:05:41.000 But, friend, there were lots of people on that floor,

01:05:46.320 very busy with computers and telephones ringing.

01:05:50.340 And you can imagine what they had to try to.

01:05:52.820 They were trying to figure out who the heck did this.

01:05:55.020 The volume of weeds coming in, you know, the trite expression, drinking from a fire hose.

01:06:02.960 We were drinking from fire hoses from every fire department in the nation.

01:06:06.880 It felt like it was a flow that would not stop.

01:06:09.620 And keep in mind it was coming in not only from New York, but all over the country, all over the world.

01:06:14.080 It's actually kind of funny because Stewart was actually arrested, guys, for felony charges of conspiracy to obstruct obstruction of an agency proceeding and making false statements of federal investigators and was sentenced in July 2004 to serve a five-month prison term in federal correctional facility and a two-year period of supervised release, including five months of electronic monitoring.

01:06:34.540 That's actually hilarious.

01:06:35.500 So, yeah, so she got arrested.

01:06:41.980 I wonder if it was the FBI that grabbed her or if it was the SEC, U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.

01:06:46.280 But basically what happened was she avoided a loss of $45,673 by selling all 3,928 shares of her IAM clone system stock on December 27, 2001 after receiving material, non-public information from Peter Bakunovic, her broker at Merrill Lynch.

01:06:59.740 The day following her sale, the stock value fell 16%, and the month that followed Stewart drew heavy media scrutiny, including a Newsweek cover headline, Martha's Mess.

01:07:11.740 So, yeah, she ended up getting in trouble for that insider trading and lying. 0.98

01:07:21.840 I thought, God, these poor people working around. 0.57

01:07:24.840 So, yeah, guys, don't let those looks fool you.

01:07:26.500 She's a convicted felon, my friends. 1.00

01:07:28.320 She's a fucking, you know, them boys hit her up like, FBI, open up! 1.00

01:07:36.560 The clock. 1.00

01:07:37.720 And I felt so sorry for them because there was no place to buy food.

01:07:40.800 I think that's why Snoop Dogg is friends with her because she freaking, she's a real G, man. 1.00

01:07:44.740 Convicted felon, Martha Stewart.

01:07:46.860 New York was basically shut down for a while after 9-11.

01:07:50.640 And I thought, well, maybe they'll allow me to bring down everything that we make in the test kitchen.

01:07:56.800 Why not give it to these hardworking people who are...

01:07:59.800 She was like, yo, I'm going to keep doing my insider trading, but, you know, y'all just, here's some food.

01:08:05.460 Basically living on the second floor.

01:08:07.320 So, one day, Martha Stewart is coming up the ramp and she said, I just want you guys to have something.

01:08:13.820 It was a standard size, you know, round birthday type of cake, layer cake.

01:08:18.560 And she said, I just really appreciate all you people, what you're doing.

01:08:21.780 So, we would take down food and see the smiles and the weariness of the workers there on that floor.

01:08:31.720 Everybody thanked her.

01:08:34.220 And she didn't try to decorate the garage either.

01:08:38.500 I would have loved to have made over that garage.

01:08:41.220 I probably would have made them some lounges where they could have some kitchens where they could eat. 1.00

01:08:47.940 I would have probably put better lighting in there.

01:08:49.940 It was a pretty dingy place.

01:08:51.160 You have to have some humor to get you through these awful events.

01:08:55.320 They keep you sane, you know.

01:08:57.400 So, Martha Stewart, that was very, very nice.

01:09:03.480 As we were finding out about all of the skyjackers, our thought at the time is we have to identify... 1.00

01:09:11.680 Real quick, I just got to go ahead and show y'all this real fast because this is too entertaining here.

01:09:17.400 So, I have here her actual indictment, guys.

01:09:20.360 Okay, Martha Stewart's indictment.

01:09:22.580 And what I'm going to do is I'm going to go ahead and show it to y'all real fast.

01:09:28.080 Can't make this stuff up.

01:09:30.780 So, share screen.

01:09:31.880 I went ahead and fast forwarded to it for you guys so that we don't...

01:09:36.360 But here's her indictment document here.

01:09:39.680 Enlarge it.

01:09:40.200 So, on or about January 25, 2002, the FBI and U.S. Attorney's Office contacted the office of Martha Stewart and requested to interview Stewart.

01:09:48.860 Okay?

01:09:50.660 Give me one second.

01:09:51.540 All right.

01:09:51.740 On or about January 31, 2002, after learning that the FBI and U.S. Attorney's Office had requested an interview with her and immediately following a lengthy conversation with her attorney, Martha Stewart, accessed the phone message maintained on a computer by her assistant and reviewed the phone message that Peter Bankanovic had left for her on December 27, 2001.

01:10:08.220 Remember, guys, that's her advisor right there.

01:10:09.960 They both got indicted for this, by the way.

01:10:11.240 And referred to this as a conspiracy, knowing that Bankanovic's message for Stewart was based on information regarding the sale and attempted sale of Waxel shares that Bankanovic subsequently caused to be conveyed to her.

01:10:24.620 Stewart deleted the substance of Bankovic's phone message, changing the message from Peter Bankovic thinks I'm clone is going to start trading downward to Peter Bankovic re-m clone.

01:10:36.560 After alerting the message, Stewart directed her assistant to return the message to its original wording.

01:10:41.220 Crazy stuff.

01:10:42.200 And then false statements.

01:10:43.080 Honor about February 4, 2002, Martha Stewart, accompanied by her lawyers, was interviewed in New York, New York, by the SEC, the FBI, and the U.S. Attorney's Office.

01:10:50.100 And further to the conspiracy, and with the intent and purpose to conceal and cover up that Bankanovic had caused, I think I pronounced it right that time, finally, Bankanovic had caused Stewart to be provided information regarding the sale and attempted sale of the Waxel shares.

01:11:03.480 And as Stewart had sold her I'm clone stock while in possession of that information, Stewart made the following false statements of facts and substance and a part and concealed and covered up the following material facts, among others.

01:11:14.560 Stewart stated at the time when I'm clone was trading at approximately $74 per share, which prior to December 27, 2001, had last occurred on December 6, 2001, Stewart and Peter Bakanovic both decided that Stewart would sell her I'm clone shares when I'm clone started trading at $60 per share.

01:11:28.300 This statement was false and misleading in that, and Stewart well knew no such decision had been made.

01:11:32.320 And they kind of just go into more of her lies, right?

01:11:34.740 They just break it down, break it down, break it down.

01:11:36.740 As you guys can see, they got a bunch of her lies.

01:11:39.900 And then, uh, Bakanovic's alteration of his worksheet.

01:11:43.120 So, they had her dead to rights, guys.

01:11:44.800 You can see this is a lengthy indictment here if you guys want to check it out.

01:11:47.060 Here's the case number if you want to look it up.

01:11:48.600 This is at, again, the Southern District of New York, right?

01:11:51.340 So, this ended up happening a couple years after, um, 9-11.

01:11:55.800 See, I can see why she was so, um, friendly to the FBI.

01:11:59.260 She thought that wouldn't get her in trouble, but next thing you know, uh, you know, she 1.00

01:12:02.080 gets hit with that fucking FBI, open up! 1.00

01:12:06.000 Oh, man. 1.00

01:12:06.680 I guess the FBI don't care about cookies, huh?

01:12:08.820 So, all right.

01:12:10.440 Let's get back to the documentary, guys.

01:12:13.060 Had to, had to make that quick little, um, thing for y'all, though.

01:12:16.440 Quick little distinction.

01:12:17.820 All right.

01:12:18.100 So, back to regular schedule programming.

01:12:19.600 We're talking about 9-11 no longer inside of training from Martha Stewart.

01:12:22.180 All of them, and they're links.

01:12:30.060 So, part of the installation at the garage was these secure classified phone lines, and

01:12:34.860 they, they proved to be vital.

01:12:38.740 It would ring several times a day, and I'd be on the phone with, uh, Ali Soufan, one of

01:12:43.900 the agents who was assigned over in Yemen.

01:12:47.100 All right.

01:12:47.380 This is where we hit the turning point.

01:12:48.780 I was in...

01:12:49.360 This is where we hit the turning point here, guys.

01:12:50.800 Ali Soufan is a very famous FBI agent, uh, did a lot of high-profile cases, involved

01:12:55.040 in a lot of, uh, uh, high-profile interviews, et cetera.

01:12:58.240 So, uh, let's get into it.

01:13:00.280 The embassy in Sana'a investigating the USS Cole.

01:13:04.940 Less than a year before 9-11, the USS Cole, an American destroyer, is refueling in Yemen.

01:13:12.340 The bomb was carried by a small boat that helped the destroyer bore in the harbor.

01:13:16.260 A tiny fishing boat, men on board waving and smiling, pulls up beside the destroyer and

01:13:23.160 explodes.

01:13:25.140 The bomb rips a hole in the side of the warship, killing 17 American sailors and nearly sinking

01:13:32.320 the coal.

01:13:32.860 I wonder who was behind the bombing of the USS Cole.

01:13:39.040 See the attack on the USS Cole.

01:13:41.540 This is critical because you start to see a picture come into richer focus.

01:13:48.960 Who are the people who blew up the coal?

01:13:51.100 And as you guys can see, right?

01:13:54.280 This guy.

01:13:56.980 Right.

01:13:57.580 Oh my God.

01:13:58.360 Another plane has just hit.

01:14:00.260 To see a picture come into richer focus.

01:14:04.780 And he's the assistant director, director of public affairs.

01:14:07.700 So obviously he's got to deal with like, you know, putting out a certain image and letting

01:14:12.820 the people in the public know, Hey, this is what we got going on, et cetera, because people

01:14:16.300 want to answer his guys when, um, 9-11 happened.

01:14:19.020 So, uh, so yeah.

01:14:22.640 Who are the people who blew up the coal?

01:14:24.940 Oh, there's another one.

01:14:25.920 Another plane just hit.

01:14:27.480 Right?

01:14:28.100 Oh my God.

01:14:28.880 Another plane has just hit another building.

01:14:31.780 We're trying to call headquarters and see what's going on in New York.

01:14:35.340 And they basically said, you need to stay.

01:14:39.020 And I was really annoyed.

01:14:40.580 I mean, you want us to stay?

01:14:42.240 The USS Cole can wait.

01:14:44.100 You know, we're under attack.

01:14:45.280 And the answer from headquarters was, it is not about the USS Cole.

01:14:50.200 It's about what just happened here.

01:14:52.200 You go to the embassy and so-and-so will give you, uh, what you need to know.

01:14:57.580 We started to identify a number of the individuals that were on the very-

01:15:04.420 And just so you guys know, Ali Sufan, he's a Lebanese-American former FBI agent who was

01:15:08.160 involved in the number one high-profile anti-terrorism case in the United States and around the world.

01:15:11.300 So, um, very famous.

01:15:12.880 Nowadays, he's the, uh, chairman and chief executive officer of the Sufan Group, a leading

01:15:16.760 national security and counterterrorism expert.

01:15:18.400 Um, so basically he's like a consultant, you know, uh, nowadays, which, you know, a lot

01:15:22.760 of times he's, you know, you know, FBI agents, former feds in general, you know, they typically

01:15:27.100 get some type of consulting gig in security, you know, it's, you know, typical nice retirement

01:15:32.520 gig that pays you more because the private sector always pays more than, uh, the government.

01:15:36.700 And he's the author of a couple of books as well.

01:15:39.200 So, uh, so let's see what happens here.

01:15:42.460 ... various planes.

01:15:44.320 As we develop that, we were able to send those names over to Ali Sufan, who was dealing with

01:15:51.600 jailed extremists.

01:15:55.760 I went with my CIA colleague in his car back to the embassy.

01:16:00.520 We go to his office and he gave me a manila envelope and I opened it and I could not believe

01:16:06.480 what I was seeing.

01:16:09.420 Khalid Mehdar and Nawaf Hazem, who were connected to people who were involved in the U.S.

01:16:14.380 as coal, had been in the United States.

01:16:19.000 They were identified as hijackers.

01:16:21.220 Two people who were on the planes, we're looking for them in Yemen.

01:16:26.620 Our government knew that they were in San Diego.

01:16:32.600 Holy!

01:16:34.260 Guys!

01:16:34.740 That is an L!

01:16:39.900 Yeah.

01:16:40.880 I can't even explain the gravity of that.

01:16:46.620 So, and you guys thought I was kidding around when I said that the CIA wasn't sharing information

01:16:50.800 with the FBI.

01:16:51.460 That is just one instance where they did not share information.

01:16:54.220 So people that were involved in the attack were in the United States the entire time, 0.51

01:17:00.900 getting visas, coming in, flying on planes, all this bullshit, and the CIA knew they were 0.57

01:17:06.220 in the States all this time. 0.99

01:17:08.080 They had their radar on these fucking dudes because they were linked to people that bombed 0.99

01:17:14.240 the USS Cole. 1.00

01:17:15.420 That, my friends, big L.

01:17:18.200 But let's continue on.

01:17:21.940 That's a bombshell of a development right there.

01:17:24.080 But hey, after a terrorist attack was as big as 9-11, everything's got to come out, man.

01:17:28.680 What Ali Sufan has just learned, but no one in the garage yet knows, is that the CIA has

01:17:36.180 been tracking two of the hijackers for nearly a year.

01:17:40.360 The CIA, however, had yet to process the information and so failed to share it with the FBI in time

01:17:48.560 to locate the hijackers.

01:17:51.020 I just threw the file back on his desk.

01:17:55.300 The only thing I can do is just get out of his office, straight to the bathroom across the hall,

01:18:04.500 and puke in my guts out until one of my colleagues came in and said,

01:18:10.060 but are you okay?

01:18:11.620 And here's the thing, guys.

01:18:14.000 Internationally, the CIA runs the show.

01:18:15.920 Domestically, the FBI runs the show.

01:18:17.400 That is why he's so angry, because the FBI has jurisdiction over all terrorists that are

01:18:22.940 in the United States that are domestic.

01:18:25.340 CIA has jurisdiction over all terrorists that are foreign.

01:18:28.380 So the fact that these guys were known and or suspected terrorists in the United States

01:18:33.860 operating, getting visas, et cetera, and the CIA had not shared that information with local,

01:18:38.580 with law enforcement, federal law enforcement, is crazy.

01:18:41.720 And the fact that they share with the FBI is a bigger problem.

01:18:44.320 Because remember, guys, I want to make this extremely, extremely clear.

01:18:46.500 Don't believe the movies.

01:18:47.760 The CIA is not a law enforcement agency.

01:18:51.080 They are an intelligence agency, which means they operate foreign.

01:18:55.120 Law enforcement agencies operate domestic.

01:18:57.200 FBI agents carry guns.

01:18:58.900 CIA operatives carry guns, maybe foreign.

01:19:01.300 But they're not carrying them here, and they're not doing any type of domestic type of enforcement.

01:19:06.800 They're not law enforcement officers.

01:19:07.880 They're not sworn law enforcement officers.

01:19:09.080 They operate outside of the realm of law enforcement, if you know what I'm saying.

01:19:14.240 OK, so that is why he's so angry, because these guys cross into their jurisdiction for all 1.00

01:19:21.180 intents and purposes, and the CIA failed to notify the FBI.

01:19:25.000 And then these guys ended up being involved and identified in the flight manifests for the

01:19:30.560 9-11 attacks.

01:19:31.240 The CIA would also acknowledge failing to put the Al-Qaeda operatives on the terrorist watch list

01:19:45.360 sooner.

01:19:45.940 Oh, man, that's another.

01:19:51.100 Just so you guys know, what is a terrorist watch list?

01:19:53.140 Terrorist watch list, guys, is a database, right, that basically has all people that are

01:19:59.000 suspected and or linked to terrorist activities within the national crime in the NCIC.

01:20:04.920 OK, and basically, if you run a name and that person may be involved in terrorism, whatever

01:20:08.960 it may be, that information is known to law enforcement personnel, et cetera.

01:20:12.220 So the CIA did not put them into the terrorist database quickly enough.

01:20:18.520 And had they put them in, in time, the Bureau might have been able to act and or those guys

01:20:24.220 would have been flagged and they wouldn't have gotten those visas. 0.99

01:20:25.900 Because remember, these guys all enter the United States on fucking visas, guys. 1.00

01:20:29.980 All right. 0.99

01:20:30.580 It is easy to get a visa turned down.

01:20:32.700 And if these guys had been on a terrorist watch list, they would have never gotten the

01:20:35.340 visas in the first place and entered the United States. 0.99

01:20:37.560 So you guys can see how this was a colossal fucking. 0.99

01:20:42.220 Right. 0.98

01:20:43.720 So and this is a big reason why the Department of Homeland Security was created.

01:20:47.280 So that information sharing would be a lot, lot smoother.

01:20:52.000 So then we don't we don't end up with situations like this.

01:20:54.260 And this is why, you know, the CIA and FBI have always typically butted heads.

01:20:58.040 And a lot of it stems from this 9-11 situation.

01:21:05.760 Days after the attacks, the Yemenis revealed that they are hiding something extraordinary.

01:21:12.220 When he walked to the room, he won't even look at me.

01:21:16.660 He literally took his chair and turned it towards the wall.

01:21:21.500 Ali Soufan is brought to meet a secret prisoner, a terrorist whose alias is Abu Jandao.

01:21:29.460 Oh, this is going to be a big one.

01:21:31.120 Won't even recognize that I'm a Muslim.

01:21:33.440 He didn't believe me.

01:21:34.580 But a little bit by a little bit, the relationship was a little bit better.

01:21:40.280 He started lecturing us a lot about Islam, about the world, about Bin Laden, about revolutions. 0.85

01:21:50.460 The reason the Yemenis have been hiding Abu Jandao, he is Osama Bin Laden's bodyguard. 1.00

01:21:57.340 Oh, shit. 0.99

01:22:02.180 Soufan shows Abu Jandao photos of the World Trade Center attacks. 1.00

01:22:07.800 But he adds a lie that hundreds of Muslim Yemenis died in the towers.

01:22:14.980 Those...

01:22:15.360 You triggered my trap card!

01:22:18.720 Deception.

01:22:19.160 People were on the planes that hit the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. 0.55

01:22:26.880 Those people murdered all the Yemenis. 1.00

01:22:33.760 So he was totally taken back.

01:22:37.560 He put his head between his hands and he started shaking and he said, I need five minutes. 0.86

01:22:44.680 Just so you guys know, killing, you know, Muslims, innocent Muslims, is a big problem, even if you're waging jihad. 0.56

01:22:51.940 So that's why it immediately made him go, what the hell is going on here?

01:22:55.400 Am I, you know, am I fighting for the right cause?

01:22:58.180 So, you know, shout out to Ali Soufan.

01:23:00.000 He knew what to say to really pride this guy. 0.99

01:23:02.800 Because if he said, hey, a bunch of innocent Americans died and stuff, the dude would have been like, I don't give a shit. 0.99

01:23:07.300 But for him to say, hey, we had fellow Muslims and Yemenis dying, that is what the secret was, my friends. 0.99

01:23:14.680 So we went out the room.

01:23:18.420 We left him in the room and I walked in again.

01:23:23.440 And then he said, I think the Sheikh went crazy.

01:23:27.800 What do you want to know?

01:23:30.980 I said, we have a photo book.

01:23:33.860 Some people probably you know, some people I'm sure you don't know.

01:23:38.580 He identified Muhammad Atta.

01:23:39.960 He identified about seven people who later were identified all as hijackers, giving us their nationality, their aliases, and a lot of details about them.

01:23:53.620 Bam.

01:23:54.020 As you guys can see right here, Salam al-Hazmi, Ahmed al-Ghadmi, Mahand al-Shahri.

01:24:01.640 And then, you know, you can see all their stuff here.

01:24:06.760 Right.

01:24:07.600 Driver's licenses, et cetera.

01:24:10.560 That was significant.

01:24:14.480 This is the evidence we needed.

01:24:17.520 Bin Laden's bodyguard has now given the...

01:24:20.460 And feel free to pause, guys, to look at, you know, all their stuff.

01:24:23.480 I mean, this is a lot of personal information that's on here.

01:24:26.500 But, yeah, as you all can see, man, you know, they had non-immigrant visas, applications out.

01:24:31.260 They got driver's licenses, all that stuff, man.

01:24:34.140 The FBI absolute proof connecting Al-Qaeda to the World Trade Center attack.

01:24:42.400 We understand.

01:24:43.080 And there's the link right there, man.

01:24:44.260 That's how they made the link right there.

01:24:48.500 And that it's really important to pass this information to New York.

01:24:51.920 Kenny, it's Bin Laden, 100%. 0.95

01:24:57.720 When those first clues in Yemen and Abu Jandal's revelations to Ali Zufan come into the garage,

01:25:10.020 you know, the people who are piecing together everything from everywhere say,

01:25:13.060 OK, this is big.

01:25:16.000 This has meaning.

01:25:16.920 Seven of the hijackers were identified as Qaeda operatives by the bodyguard.

01:25:23.540 That's huge.

01:25:24.000 That's a big, big find, guys.

01:25:25.820 Perfect.

01:25:26.540 To get that kind of source information.

01:25:31.360 The breakthroughs that occurred in those interviews...

01:25:34.840 Seven were Al-Qaeda.

01:25:36.460 ...was really putting the key into the lock of the secrets of 9-11 and turning it.

01:25:44.660 Abu Jandal was that...

01:25:46.920 Turning to what's now a sprawling criminal investigation of the coordinated suicide attacks,

01:25:52.780 investigators have made quick work of identifying the skyjackers. 1.00

01:25:56.780 CBS...

01:25:56.980 So Abu Jandal was identifying people left and right, 0.84

01:26:00.160 and all the information was coming straight to New York,

01:26:03.320 and New York were acting upon this information,

01:26:06.420 putting wanted posters for some individuals that we identified.

01:26:11.280 Look at that.

01:26:11.660 Look at all the...

01:26:12.140 And they were able to use this to identify other people.

01:26:14.280 And this guy actually was involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

01:26:17.780 They still have not caught him to this day, guys.

01:26:19.820 And I broke this case down.

01:26:21.320 You can check it out on the documentary playlist.

01:26:24.400 But yeah, this dude is still not found to this day.

01:26:26.740 And following on a lot of the leads that we were generating.

01:26:32.300 The board became a lot more refined as time went on,

01:26:36.120 as more information came in,

01:26:38.300 that we could permanently affix up there in terms of a flow chart.

01:26:42.440 You wanted to get back after you did your leads

01:26:44.840 and write up your investigation and document it

01:26:47.260 so that the case squad could have that information as soon as possible.

01:26:51.820 Because some...

01:26:52.180 And the case squad is the case that is the...

01:26:54.260 Basically, the squad that's running that investigation.

01:26:56.000 You got one primary case agent,

01:26:57.300 and everyone is funneling information to him.

01:26:59.660 He's the one directing the case,

01:27:00.800 working closely with the U.S. attorneys,

01:27:02.600 and then everyone else is supporting.

01:27:03.980 Something you're holding may be a missing piece,

01:27:06.480 and you don't know it.

01:27:07.640 You don't know what you have.

01:27:08.920 They know what they need.

01:27:10.220 Because the case squad has all the facts, guys.

01:27:15.460 So you, as helping out,

01:27:16.900 you don't know the importance of what piece of evidence you may have.

01:27:19.700 You might have a missing piece that they didn't know about

01:27:21.160 or they've been searching for.

01:27:22.440 So that's why it's so important

01:27:24.280 that everything needs to be put through the main group,

01:27:26.260 and they're the ones that go ahead

01:27:27.760 and make the final decisions

01:27:30.060 or make the investigative calls

01:27:31.580 because they have all the facts.

01:27:33.120 Everyone else is just in the CISRO funneling information

01:27:35.320 to the primary group.

01:27:36.920 There's one case agent, okay?

01:27:38.560 And that's typically how any investigation goes.

01:27:42.740 Brian went on for like 60 days before a day off,

01:27:46.660 which is, you know, it was okay for me.

01:27:49.340 And real quick, just so y'all know,

01:27:50.900 a squad is what the FBI calls his group.

01:27:52.540 So remember, like I said before,

01:27:53.800 you got your supervisory special agent,

01:27:55.220 and then you got a squad underneath him.

01:27:57.160 It's comprised of somewhere between 10,

01:27:59.340 between five to 10 agents in that squad.

01:28:01.500 And you're going to have that one case agent

01:28:03.060 that's running the investigation,

01:28:04.000 and you got nine other agents that are supporting him,

01:28:05.640 probably two or three of them

01:28:06.480 might even be co-case agents on it with him.

01:28:09.340 And that squad is the main squad

01:28:11.060 running that investigation.

01:28:12.320 And then everyone else is supporting them.

01:28:14.740 I was in the zone.

01:28:15.700 I wanted to be with my peers.

01:28:17.340 I wanted to be with other FBI agents.

01:28:22.060 The leads from 9-11,

01:28:23.900 which is opening entire new books into Al-Qaeda

01:28:28.200 that had never been cracked before,

01:28:30.480 including the recruitment of English-speaking people

01:28:33.460 to come to flight schools.

01:28:35.820 In terms of, you know, connecting the dots,

01:28:38.360 who are these people who flew the planes in?

01:28:40.660 How do they learn to fly?

01:28:42.280 With whom were they associated

01:28:43.700 when they were in the country?

01:28:45.020 We realized pretty quickly

01:28:46.720 there's an awful lot of flight schools

01:28:48.420 that can teach you to fly a commercial airliner.

01:28:51.900 And of those flight schools,

01:28:53.780 a lot of them had a lot of Mideastern males as students.

01:28:57.660 We need to know what else is happening.

01:29:02.040 Who else is involved?

01:29:04.040 Who else is a sleeper cell somewhere

01:29:06.160 waiting for the instructions to attack?

01:29:10.360 Hold back. Hold back.

01:29:12.160 All the weapons to the green bar.

01:29:19.520 The thing that struck me so odd

01:29:21.340 when I went into the garage

01:29:22.460 was that I smelled like gas and oil and rubber

01:29:25.460 and all the things that, you know,

01:29:27.220 we'd typically find in a garage.

01:29:28.960 And you're among, you know,

01:29:30.580 all these computer terminals

01:29:31.720 and FBI people setting leads and covering leads.

01:29:35.620 Leads are pouring in from all over the world.

01:29:39.100 But one of the most critical

01:29:40.340 comes from inside the FBI itself.

01:29:45.900 We had been pushing to our management in Minneapolis

01:29:49.220 to let New York know

01:29:51.140 we had a subject who had to be connected to the attacks.

01:29:55.460 When I got to New York,

01:30:09.660 I immediately went to the garage

01:30:11.960 ready to brief agents and prosecutors on Mr. Moussaoui.

01:30:17.620 That's a big find.

01:30:21.580 Zacharias Moussaoui is a French citizen.

01:30:24.920 He has been in flight school in Minnesota

01:30:26.840 until weeks before 9-11.

01:30:30.080 When the FBI is alerted to his strange behavior,

01:30:34.120 agents arrest him on immigration charges.

01:30:38.020 All right.

01:30:38.440 Let me pause this and stop this right here

01:30:39.980 because I got to...

01:30:41.580 This is what the JTTF does a lot of the times, guys.

01:30:44.500 Okay.

01:30:44.700 So a lot of the times

01:30:45.760 they might not have enough information

01:30:47.160 to go ahead and get people

01:30:48.320 on actual terrorism charges.

01:30:50.200 But what they're able to do is

01:30:51.300 they know that they're in there on,

01:30:52.820 you know,

01:30:53.880 a visa or some type of immigration document

01:30:55.860 and they're able to go ahead,

01:30:57.560 use immigration, right?

01:30:58.840 Back then it was INS,

01:30:59.840 Immigration Naturalization Service.

01:31:01.080 But nowadays it's going to be

01:31:01.880 HSI, Homeland Security Investigations,

01:31:03.300 what I used to be a part of.

01:31:04.820 And HSI agents have immigration authority.

01:31:07.300 They have, you know,

01:31:07.680 obviously you can do customs authority,

01:31:09.220 immigration authority, etc.

01:31:10.020 And it's a powerful tool

01:31:11.440 to use against terrorism.

01:31:13.820 And HSI, honestly, guys,

01:31:15.000 is probably one of the most important partners

01:31:16.600 in JTTF's Joint Terrorism Task Forces

01:31:18.800 because the FBI

01:31:19.960 has limited Title VIII authority.

01:31:21.840 Title VIII is the immigration statute, okay?

01:31:24.120 The INA,

01:31:25.060 Immigration Nationality Act of the United States.

01:31:27.060 So that falls under Title VIII.

01:31:28.540 FBI have very limited Title VIII authority

01:31:30.180 and they don't really know

01:31:31.220 how immigration works.

01:31:31.960 However, HSI agents do.

01:31:33.500 And what the FBI does a lot of the times

01:31:34.840 is if they can't get a guy

01:31:36.380 on material support for terrorism

01:31:37.720 or some type of terrorism charge,

01:31:38.920 a lot of the times

01:31:39.900 they're going to have to revert

01:31:40.760 and default back to immigration

01:31:42.460 because a lot of these guys

01:31:43.680 come on visas,

01:31:44.840 they have green cards, etc.

01:31:45.900 So it's an amazing tool to use

01:31:48.420 to get guys to cooperate,

01:31:49.640 to put guys in jail,

01:31:50.440 to kind of thwart terrorist attacks

01:31:51.840 before they happen

01:31:52.540 because if they're sitting

01:31:53.520 in an immigration jail,

01:31:54.560 they can't be out here

01:31:55.380 plotting against the United States.

01:31:58.040 So this is, you know,

01:32:00.080 another example of the importance

01:32:01.960 of working with other agencies

01:32:03.420 and leveraging other people's skill sets,

01:32:06.460 other agencies' skill sets

01:32:08.540 and other expertises

01:32:09.820 and authorities

01:32:10.640 share advantage to combat terrorism.

01:32:12.460 And this is what should have been done

01:32:13.580 between the CIA and the FBI,

01:32:15.000 but it was not done.

01:32:15.980 So now, you know,

01:32:17.160 they're picking up the pieces domestically

01:32:18.520 with the FBI

01:32:19.320 and in this case, INS.

01:32:21.920 Because remember,

01:32:22.520 INS was still in existence in 2001.

01:32:26.520 They didn't cease to exist

01:32:27.260 after 2003,

01:32:28.180 the Department of Homeland Security Act

01:32:29.160 and then emerged

01:32:29.640 U.S. Customs Service

01:32:30.420 and Immigration Naturalization Service

01:32:31.920 together to create ICE.

01:32:33.840 And then from ICE,

01:32:34.980 you got Homeland Security Investigations

01:32:36.560 and ERO,

01:32:38.520 Enforcement and Removal Operations.

01:32:40.560 HSI is a special agency

01:32:41.520 that they do the investigation.

01:32:42.520 So they're basically customs,

01:32:44.120 special agents,

01:32:44.620 INS special agents combined in one.

01:32:46.460 And then you got ERO,

01:32:48.380 who are the deportation officers.

01:32:50.100 They're the INS side

01:32:50.960 that would have done

01:32:51.560 the deportations back in the day.

01:32:53.100 Back to the video.

01:32:56.220 Back to the video,

01:32:56.940 by the way, guys.

01:32:57.940 You ain't gonna find content

01:32:58.880 like this anywhere else.

01:33:00.880 Zachariah Massawi

01:33:01.840 was taking flying lessons,

01:33:05.600 but raised concern

01:33:08.340 by the instructor

01:33:09.500 is that he just wanted

01:33:10.660 to know how to fly.

01:33:12.640 He really didn't want to learn

01:33:14.260 everything there was

01:33:15.480 about manning an airplane.

01:33:17.920 This revelation about Massawi

01:33:19.720 is conveyed to Ali Soufan over in...

01:33:22.200 He doesn't want to learn

01:33:22.800 how to fly planes

01:33:23.600 and nothing else?

01:33:24.520 Yemen.

01:33:25.620 Soufan runs it

01:33:26.560 past Bin Laden's bodyguard.

01:33:32.080 Abu Jandal identified Massawi.

01:33:37.220 Basically, he gave us

01:33:38.580 a lot of things about him,

01:33:40.500 his involvement in Al-Qaeda,

01:33:42.100 his alias in Al-Qaeda.

01:33:44.020 Now we know that this person 0.79

01:33:45.880 wasn't only a crazy guy 0.58

01:33:48.460 who said,

01:33:49.040 I want to learn how to fly,

01:33:50.880 but I just want to

01:33:51.680 take off.

01:33:52.600 I don't care about landing. 1.00

01:33:56.100 What the fuck, man? 0.99

01:33:57.440 That's definitely gonna have 1.00

01:33:58.220 alarm bells going off.

01:34:00.960 This guy is actually

01:34:02.400 a member of Al-Qaeda

01:34:04.440 and worked for

01:34:08.060 Osama Bin Laden

01:34:08.860 in Afghanistan.

01:34:09.520 Realizing the terrorist network

01:34:17.420 in the U.S.

01:34:18.180 is larger than anyone imagined.

01:34:20.760 The FBI puts even more

01:34:22.220 pressure on Massawi.

01:34:24.800 Mr. Massawi was hostile.

01:34:26.820 We could tell he didn't like us.

01:34:29.400 We were gonna go for broke

01:34:30.700 on this interview.

01:34:31.380 And so he said,

01:34:34.060 we're aware that you're

01:34:35.160 a member of a group.

01:34:37.640 When he heard the word group,

01:34:38.960 that really concerned

01:34:40.320 Mousali,

01:34:40.940 his eye.

01:34:41.640 He was like, 1.00

01:34:42.000 oh, shit. 1.00

01:34:43.620 He's kind of got wide, 1.00

01:34:45.420 his jaw dropped.

01:34:46.220 That also fed our concern

01:34:48.460 as to

01:34:49.340 were there others

01:34:50.460 out there?

01:34:52.280 Potential hijackers

01:34:53.720 and or

01:34:55.240 potential support elements

01:34:57.240 that would create

01:35:00.020 a second wave

01:35:01.300 or create

01:35:05.060 other incidents.

01:35:06.520 I said,

01:35:06.920 Mr. Mousali,

01:35:07.560 you're here with us

01:35:08.300 in custody

01:35:08.780 and you're gonna remain

01:35:09.480 in custody,

01:35:10.080 but your friends

01:35:10.920 who are out there

01:35:11.520 who are gonna carry out

01:35:12.320 this attack,

01:35:13.000 they're not.

01:35:14.420 And if people are hurt,

01:35:15.900 you are going to be

01:35:16.640 held accountable

01:35:17.620 by the United States government.

01:35:24.420 Everyone was in

01:35:25.460 a high state of alert.

01:35:27.260 When's the next attack?

01:35:31.440 Obviously,

01:35:32.020 we didn't prevent this one,

01:35:33.120 but can we prevent

01:35:33.820 the next one?

01:35:38.480 And this is a perfect

01:35:39.460 example, guys,

01:35:40.340 of, you know,

01:35:41.020 two offices

01:35:41.660 working together.

01:35:42.320 You got FBI Minneapolis

01:35:43.300 coming across

01:35:43.960 this critical information

01:35:45.000 about Mousali

01:35:45.580 and then you got

01:35:46.520 FBI New York

01:35:47.160 feeding that information

01:35:47.940 to FBI New York

01:35:48.580 and they're able

01:35:48.980 to enact on it

01:35:49.700 and go ahead

01:35:50.520 and push that lead

01:35:51.220 and move the investigation along.

01:35:53.140 And this is the power

01:35:54.040 of working together.

01:35:55.940 And I mean,

01:35:56.240 hell,

01:35:56.440 you got even NTSB in here,

01:35:57.980 you know,

01:35:58.440 working with the FBI

01:35:59.320 during the 9-11 attacks.

01:36:00.600 And for you guys

01:36:01.580 that are wondering,

01:36:02.060 NTSB is involved

01:36:03.580 in investigations

01:36:04.320 that have to do

01:36:04.900 with any type of

01:36:05.860 airline accident

01:36:08.080 that might result

01:36:09.260 in damage or death.

01:36:10.360 And they actually

01:36:11.100 investigated the Kobe Bryant

01:36:12.240 crashing.

01:36:13.300 Let me pull up

01:36:13.980 their thing real quick

01:36:15.220 and I'll read a little

01:36:16.080 bit more about them.

01:36:16.800 They're not really

01:36:17.400 a law enforcement agency.

01:36:18.240 They basically,

01:36:18.820 if they find some foul play,

01:36:20.080 they turn it over

01:36:20.800 to the FBI.

01:36:23.140 But, you know,

01:36:23.920 this goes to show you guys

01:36:24.920 the magnitude

01:36:25.680 of this investigation,

01:36:26.660 how it was literally

01:36:27.620 everyone in the government

01:36:29.180 was working on figuring out

01:36:30.500 who the hell

01:36:30.900 these guys were.

01:36:31.520 The urgency for sure

01:36:36.180 wasn't identifying

01:36:37.240 co-conspirators.

01:36:38.460 Was it identifying

01:36:39.280 anybody who might

01:36:40.740 have been working

01:36:42.180 with Moussaoui

01:36:42.860 to do the same thing,

01:36:44.100 who might have been

01:36:44.860 financing him,

01:36:45.800 who might have

01:36:46.180 trained him?

01:36:48.840 Was Moussaoui

01:36:49.880 going to be used

01:36:50.680 in a terrorist plot

01:36:51.900 after that?

01:36:53.260 I am sure he was.

01:36:54.380 They didn't send him

01:36:55.120 here for tourism,

01:36:56.060 right?

01:36:56.520 They sent him

01:36:57.080 for terrorism.

01:36:59.640 They didn't send him

01:37:00.380 for tourism.

01:37:00.940 They sent him

01:37:01.280 for terrorism.

01:37:03.680 And, guys,

01:37:04.280 the National Transportation

01:37:05.000 Safety Board

01:37:05.700 is an independent

01:37:06.340 U.S. government

01:37:06.820 investigative agency

01:37:07.500 responsible for

01:37:08.000 civil transportation

01:37:08.680 accident investigation.

01:37:10.220 So, obviously,

01:37:11.420 that is where

01:37:11.900 they would come

01:37:12.320 into play.

01:37:13.080 In this world,

01:37:13.820 the NTSB

01:37:14.280 investigates and reports

01:37:15.220 on aviation accidents

01:37:16.460 and incidents

01:37:16.980 in certain types

01:37:17.600 of highway crashes,

01:37:19.380 ship and marine accidents,

01:37:20.380 pipeline incidents,

01:37:21.440 bridge failures,

01:37:22.240 and railroad accidents.

01:37:23.640 So, that is what

01:37:24.460 they do, guys.

01:37:25.100 And they were involved

01:37:25.700 in this case as well,

01:37:26.480 obviously,

01:37:26.820 because there were

01:37:27.200 planes involved.

01:37:28.380 Again,

01:37:28.960 he was arrested

01:37:30.000 before that happened.

01:37:31.820 That was very,

01:37:32.580 very important

01:37:33.060 in terms of

01:37:33.780 establishing

01:37:34.500 a real concrete

01:37:35.920 connection

01:37:36.520 between bin Laden

01:37:37.900 and al-Qaeda

01:37:38.940 and the hijackers

01:37:40.660 as well.

01:37:41.140 More links, guys.

01:37:42.100 So, Masawi, right,

01:37:44.960 links bin Laden

01:37:46.100 and his bodyguard

01:37:46.940 to all the other guys.

01:37:49.840 We're working

01:37:50.500 day and night.

01:37:51.180 We're interviewing

01:37:51.700 people left and right.

01:37:53.260 You know,

01:37:53.600 we're getting

01:37:54.280 significant amount

01:37:55.780 of information.

01:37:56.340 It's very important

01:37:57.320 to pass it

01:37:57.900 to New York.

01:38:00.820 Yes,

01:38:01.280 everything has

01:38:01.840 to go through,

01:38:02.720 you know,

01:38:03.560 from other agents

01:38:04.460 to the lead office,

01:38:05.680 from the lead office

01:38:06.520 to the lead squad,

01:38:08.160 from the lead squad

01:38:09.020 to the lead case agent.

01:38:10.480 Then, bam,

01:38:11.340 that agent pushes it

01:38:12.500 to the USA's office

01:38:13.420 and that, my friends,

01:38:14.280 is the flow of information

01:38:15.220 on how investigations work.

01:38:16.380 However,

01:38:17.500 some of this intelligence

01:38:18.980 is difficult

01:38:19.760 to interpret.

01:38:22.340 In particular,

01:38:23.840 the agents struggle

01:38:24.820 with intercepted

01:38:25.820 al-Qaeda phone calls

01:38:27.140 about a mysterious figure

01:38:29.780 linked to the attacks,

01:38:31.480 but still at large.

01:38:33.660 And there was

01:38:34.440 all this chatter.

01:38:36.580 And part of the chatter

01:38:38.640 was this guy,

01:38:39.400 Muqtah,

01:38:39.860 which was believed

01:38:40.840 to be somebody

01:38:41.620 that was involved.

01:38:42.340 This guy was also involved

01:38:43.760 in the investigation

01:38:44.360 pretty heavily.

01:38:44.900 I remember seeing him

01:38:45.540 in other documentaries,

01:38:46.760 Frank Pellegrino.

01:38:48.680 But,

01:38:49.240 didn't know who he was.

01:38:52.420 To chase down this lead,

01:38:54.460 Ali Soufan flies

01:38:55.600 to a secret prison

01:38:56.760 in Thailand.

01:38:58.320 He interrogates

01:38:59.080 a captured

01:38:59.680 bin Laden associate

01:39:00.940 named Abu Zubaydah.

01:39:04.160 And just so y'all know,

01:39:05.160 that, that,

01:39:05.740 it's a black site, 0.77

01:39:07.140 which means

01:39:07.460 it's basically

01:39:07.860 not on the radar

01:39:08.520 or controlled

01:39:08.920 and run by the CIA

01:39:09.760 where they torture individuals.

01:39:11.080 I'll just give it 0.93

01:39:11.600 to y'all raw.

01:39:12.340 They don't want to say

01:39:13.520 that in this documentary,

01:39:14.460 but that's what's

01:39:14.920 really going on here.

01:39:16.680 We're hearing about

01:39:17.760 this,

01:39:18.660 the one who,

01:39:20.800 whose brain flew away

01:39:22.620 all the time.

01:39:24.340 I'm like,

01:39:25.140 who is this guy

01:39:27.680 whose brain flew away?

01:39:28.780 Maybe he's bin Laden 0.99

01:39:29.660 because he went crazy

01:39:31.340 after 9-11

01:39:32.060 doing something like this.

01:39:33.920 Soufan shows Zubaydah 0.56

01:39:35.140 photos of known terrorists

01:39:36.820 trying to trace

01:39:38.140 the Al-Qaeda network

01:39:39.380 from the bottom up.

01:39:40.720 But Zubaydah 0.99

01:39:42.560 is stunned.

01:39:45.140 So he said,

01:39:46.240 please, brother,

01:39:47.460 don't play games

01:39:48.280 with me.

01:39:49.280 This is

01:39:50.100 Mukhtar.

01:39:51.780 This is the one

01:39:52.580 who did

01:39:53.000 the plane operation.

01:39:55.220 The FBI analysts

01:40:03.060 have been mishearing

01:40:04.180 the name.

01:40:05.860 Lee Mukhtar

01:40:06.620 is actually

01:40:07.860 Mukhtar.

01:40:09.400 Here we go.

01:40:10.500 That confusion

01:40:11.040 with Arabic.

01:40:11.740 What?

01:40:11.940 And they're able

01:40:16.100 to identify him

01:40:16.980 as what?

01:40:18.480 Let's backtrack

01:40:18.960 that real quick.

01:40:20.680 And Mukhtar

01:40:23.040 is Khalid

01:40:23.940 Sheikh Mohammed.

01:40:25.140 Bam.

01:40:27.320 Someone the FBI

01:40:28.320 thought they knew

01:40:29.260 well.

01:40:29.660 I was like,

01:40:37.140 whoa.

01:40:39.180 Mukhtar.

01:40:40.500 I was totally shocked.

01:40:45.440 Totally shocked

01:40:46.080 because honestly

01:40:46.780 at the time

01:40:47.300 we didn't even know

01:40:47.880 that he was a member

01:40:48.460 of Al-Qaeda.

01:40:50.000 In an instant,

01:40:50.980 Soufan makes 1.00

01:40:51.860 a stunning connection.

01:40:53.720 Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

01:40:55.020 is the uncle

01:40:56.380 of Ramzi Youssef.

01:40:57.900 Oh, man.

01:40:59.840 And Ramzi Youssef,

01:41:01.240 guys,

01:41:01.800 is the main

01:41:02.780 mastermind

01:41:03.500 behind the 1993

01:41:05.120 World Trade Center

01:41:06.460 bombings.

01:41:07.000 If you guys

01:41:07.340 watch my podcast

01:41:08.400 that I did

01:41:08.800 on the 93

01:41:09.440 World Trade Center

01:41:10.380 bombings,

01:41:10.800 you guys are going

01:41:11.220 to get a lot

01:41:11.620 more insight

01:41:12.220 as to who

01:41:13.980 Ramzi Youssef is,

01:41:14.940 how he plotted

01:41:15.500 the attack,

01:41:16.460 how they did

01:41:16.880 the attack,

01:41:17.500 and how they

01:41:18.260 used rental trucks

01:41:19.140 with bombs

01:41:20.260 to try to take

01:41:21.400 out the World Trade

01:41:22.020 Center back in 93

01:41:23.020 in a foiled attempt.

01:41:24.420 So this is a

01:41:25.360 huge,

01:41:26.080 huge, 1.00

01:41:26.500 huge fucking 1.00

01:41:27.680 connection. 1.00

01:41:30.400 The mastermind

01:41:31.800 of the first

01:41:32.500 World Trade Center

01:41:33.620 attack in 1993.

01:41:40.320 Khalid Sheikh Mohammed,

01:41:41.280 before joining

01:41:41.960 Al-Qaeda,

01:41:42.720 came to Abu Zubaydah,

01:41:44.060 and he wanted

01:41:44.640 to do an operation

01:41:45.700 in the United States

01:41:48.080 targeting the

01:41:48.720 World Trade Center

01:41:49.400 to follow up

01:41:50.860 with what Ramzi Youssef

01:41:51.980 started destroying

01:41:54.420 the buildings.

01:41:54.960 and his plot

01:41:58.580 was to rent

01:41:59.920 Cessna planes

01:42:01.240 and fly them

01:42:04.180 into the two

01:42:05.020 buildings.

01:42:06.980 Abu Zubaydah's

01:42:07.540 response was like,

01:42:09.560 so you break

01:42:10.640 some windows,

01:42:11.680 at least fill

01:42:13.180 these Cessna planes

01:42:14.280 with explosives

01:42:14.960 so they can do

01:42:16.140 some damage.

01:42:17.500 So Chaos Am

01:42:18.660 liked the idea.

01:42:20.400 Abu Zubaydah told him

01:42:21.160 that the only person

01:42:22.100 who will have

01:42:22.820 a capability

01:42:23.440 like this

01:42:24.200 is Osama bin Laden.

01:42:33.620 What he had done

01:42:34.500 is he had taken

01:42:35.120 all of Ramzi Youssef's plans

01:42:36.540 and kind of

01:42:37.600 blown the dust

01:42:38.960 off them

01:42:39.500 and brought them

01:42:40.240 to bin Laden

01:42:40.780 and said,

01:42:41.100 there's still

01:42:41.660 good plans.

01:42:43.040 We could still

01:42:43.720 do bad things.

01:42:45.460 And mind you guys,

01:42:46.060 Ramzi Youssef is in

01:42:46.860 prison at this point

01:42:47.620 for eight years.

01:42:48.380 He got arrested

01:42:49.380 I think in 94,

01:42:50.360 95,

01:42:50.800 so he had been

01:42:51.180 in jail now

01:42:52.120 for some years

01:42:53.180 and he targeted

01:42:54.040 the World Trade Center

01:42:55.500 because it was

01:42:56.140 symbolic of America's

01:42:57.580 power and dominance

01:42:58.700 over the free world,

01:42:59.640 okay,

01:43:00.300 and it's,

01:43:01.200 you know,

01:43:01.460 financial prowess.

01:43:02.800 So that is why

01:43:03.620 he targeted

01:43:03.980 the World Trade Center

01:43:04.600 which,

01:43:04.920 you know,

01:43:05.060 again,

01:43:05.460 check out that podcast,

01:43:06.420 guys,

01:43:06.600 really interesting stuff.

01:43:07.440 It'll make 9-11

01:43:08.180 make more sense

01:43:08.980 when you watch it.

01:43:11.100 But that is why

01:43:12.960 they targeted

01:43:13.540 the World Trade Center

01:43:14.100 and then also

01:43:14.600 the other thing too

01:43:15.260 I want you guys to know

01:43:16.060 is that

01:43:16.440 bin Laden,

01:43:17.420 guys,

01:43:17.920 was wealthy.

01:43:18.700 He came from

01:43:18.940 a wealthy family.

01:43:19.640 He was a multimillionaire.

01:43:20.980 I think he had

01:43:21.520 an engineering degree. 0.99

01:43:22.360 He wasn't an idiot. 0.95

01:43:23.380 So he had the money 0.98

01:43:24.800 and the ability

01:43:26.140 to fund terrorism,

01:43:27.680 hence why they went

01:43:28.500 to him in the first place

01:43:29.600 to try to get

01:43:30.640 this 9-11 attack

01:43:32.500 off the ground.

01:43:33.520 So basically

01:43:34.080 continuing what

01:43:34.800 Ramzi Youssef

01:43:35.740 failed in 93.

01:43:38.600 They just need

01:43:39.640 the money behind them.

01:43:41.100 And that was

01:43:42.020 the genesis

01:43:42.580 of 9-11.

01:43:45.540 There you go.

01:43:46.100 They just said

01:43:46.500 they need the money

01:43:47.020 behind them.

01:43:47.400 But no one talks

01:43:47.980 about how bin Laden

01:43:48.580 was extremely wealthy.

01:43:50.360 You know,

01:43:50.480 you can't be hiding

01:43:51.100 in caves

01:43:51.620 for the better part

01:43:52.620 of a decade

01:43:53.060 without having some money,

01:43:53.960 you know,

01:43:54.240 funding terrorism.

01:43:54.960 You know,

01:43:55.080 it's expensive

01:43:55.520 to get these bombs.

01:43:58.680 So, yeah,

01:43:59.540 bin Laden had

01:44:00.000 quite a bit of money,

01:44:00.740 guys.

01:44:01.020 The Saudi Arabian,

01:44:01.760 man,

01:44:01.920 that oil money

01:44:02.440 for real.

01:44:02.800 I know New York

01:44:10.120 will be very

01:44:10.760 interested in KSM.

01:44:12.080 So I called

01:44:13.780 on a secure line,

01:44:14.720 Kenny,

01:44:15.080 and I said

01:44:15.560 Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

01:44:16.640 was identified

01:44:17.480 as the mastermind

01:44:19.840 of 9-11.

01:44:42.440 I briefed Barry.

01:44:44.300 I just hung up

01:44:45.080 with Ali,

01:44:45.760 and here's what

01:44:46.400 he's provided.

01:44:47.140 Those details

01:44:50.280 were put up

01:44:51.040 on the board.

01:44:55.720 The board

01:44:56.720 is finally complete.

01:45:00.180 There is now

01:45:01.140 a clear line

01:45:02.100 from the original

01:45:03.200 World Trade Center

01:45:04.260 bombing

01:45:04.700 through Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

01:45:07.360 to Osama bin Laden.

01:45:11.160 Bam,

01:45:11.540 them links

01:45:11.860 are coming in now,

01:45:12.700 baby.

01:45:14.740 And the 2,900

01:45:17.000 murders

01:45:18.640 on 9-11.

01:45:21.960 Almost 3,000

01:45:22.820 people gone,

01:45:23.640 man.

01:45:26.740 Our enemies

01:45:27.820 are about

01:45:28.720 to face

01:45:29.400 the consequences.

01:45:31.580 America! 0.94

01:45:32.640 Give me a hell yeah! 0.98

01:45:35.700 What?

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01:45:47.260 On my orders,

01:45:47.580 the United States

01:45:48.640 military has begun

01:45:49.820 strikes against

01:45:51.460 al Qaeda terrorist

01:45:52.460 training camps

01:45:53.740 and military

01:45:54.440 installations of the

01:45:55.440 Taliban regime 0.53

01:45:56.300 in Afghanistan.

01:45:57.480 It was...

01:46:00.160 That humble little

01:46:01.300 building on

01:46:02.020 the West Side Highway

01:46:03.400 was housing the

01:46:04.920 most complex,

01:46:07.540 important largest

01:46:08.480 investigation

01:46:09.060 in FBI

01:46:09.840 history.

01:46:10.280 street an extraordinary confession from the suspected mastermind of the 9-11 attacks

01:46:18.300 according to the pentagon khaled sheikh muhammad admitted responsibility for 9-11

01:46:22.440 and for a string of attacks and plots including plans to kill president clinton and carter and

01:46:27.240 that picture right there is him after uh they made they did that on purpose that was him after

01:46:32.740 again interrogated by the cia for several weeks and months what was accomplished out of that garage

01:46:38.720 was nothing short of amazing tonight i can report to the american people and to the world the united

01:46:46.020 states has conducted an operation that killed osama bin laden the leader of al-qaeda

01:46:51.180 and don't worry guys i'm going to go ahead and do a much deeper dive on how they found

01:46:57.100 and killed osama bin laden in subsequent podcasts related to the 9-11 attacks i told you guys that

01:47:02.340 this was going to be a monster um but don't worry i'll be covering that for y'all one by one the

01:47:08.140 united we're going to go more into the cia side of the house when it comes to finding and killing 0.98

01:47:12.180 bin laden states dealt with those responsible for 9-11

01:47:15.880 zacharias musawi pleaded guilty to conspiring to kill americans as part of the attacks

01:47:26.520 he is currently serving a life sentence without parole

01:47:30.480 he's an adx uh florence guys which is uh the the most secure prison worst prison federal prison

01:47:38.260 united states that's where a bunch of people are being held right now to include um robert hansen

01:47:43.440 um the boston marathon bombers like all the worst terrorists all the worst people are held in that

01:47:48.660 prison over there in florence colorado halid sheikh muhammad the mastermind of the attacks

01:47:54.620 remains at guantanamo bay you can waterboard it every day probably his trial has yet to happen

01:48:03.180 what began as an improvised response to an emergency evacuation yielded extraordinary results

01:48:19.020 and that was not just figuratively but also quite literally the start of something it was a new model

01:48:28.240 the structure that evolved in the 26th street garage is known as the joint operation center

01:48:37.160 in fbi parlance the jock and it has become the template for counterterrorism activities

01:48:45.740 agencies agencies cooperate yeah yeah and actually um yeah there's a bunch of agencies that

01:48:53.320 follow a similar format uh to this day guys so that's that's cool that that's how it started

01:48:57.720 closely intelligence is shared quickly and there is constant vigilance

01:49:04.140 i look at that warehouse and i realize it's whispered role in history there's no sign and

01:49:26.120 nobody really knows what happened in there

01:49:28.540 what went on after 9 11 it should forever be here that the largest investigation in the history of

01:49:43.640 u.s law enforcement if not international law enforcement was run from this very rudimentary

01:49:50.940 greece lidden on the floor oil slicked garage it's just an incredible feat it really is

01:49:59.360 and all the memories of the garage both stressful but also enlightened like hopeful it was all the

01:50:12.900 best of everybody was here in the garage it was the investigators support the people

01:50:18.140 and that's what was so great about you know everything in that in the garage was just

01:50:29.680 work and trying to solve this you know most heinous crime of i think i was really great that they were

01:50:35.380 able to bring agents that were actually involved in the investigation u.s attorneys etc you know to do

01:50:39.800 this um documentary they gave really good insight um because they were personally involved in the

01:50:44.360 investigation which is you know obviously a very uh difficult thing to do with a lot of these um

01:50:48.820 law enforcement documentaries ever right i mean it's just unspeakable really but everybody just sort

01:50:54.540 of put aside the unspeakable and got it done putting aside the unthinkable and getting it done

01:51:01.180 is what fbi agents are trained to do now after two decades in afghanistan american troops are out

01:51:09.760 the threat based on history came true government fell in an instant taliban seized control

01:51:18.900 we're never going to eliminate terrorism in our lifetime just like the fbi's mission never ends

01:51:30.040 they'll regroup find new sources and stay ahead of the terrorists as they have for the past 20 years

01:51:38.720 preserving our safety in an increasingly complicated world

01:51:44.860 one sunday i was walking up the street um near my house there was this little church on the upper east

01:52:01.820 side and i remember walking and you know they were singing hymns and i was like they're happy

01:52:09.280 and they should be they should be not it's okay to be joyful and sing in church

01:52:16.820 and i remember feeling like taking a minute and sitting outside and listening to the hymns

01:52:26.960 because it was i think the first time i was reconnecting with new york first time i was

01:52:40.560 seeing my fellow new yorkers you know being new yorkers and singing i am you know and they were

01:52:51.760 joyful inside the church so for me it was rewarding because it was like it's okay you know humanity is

01:52:59.780 here it's gonna be okay

01:53:02.680 yeah that was a good documentary man um it goes to show you guys that um you know as much as people

01:53:12.480 say oh 9-11 was fake or blah blah blah that's fine you know the conspiracy theorists can say what

01:53:17.440 they're going to say and i'm going to definitely break down a conspiracy theorist theories um views

01:53:21.140 as well because some of them are some pretty valid points and like i said before i'm going to be

01:53:24.240 objective about it i'm giving you guys the whole trilogy we're talking about the fbi's response

01:53:28.320 you know which we just covered just now they were going to cover how the cia found and killed bin

01:53:32.740 laden they were going to talk about what they found at bin laden's compound they were going to go ahead

01:53:35.600 and cover the conspiracy theories which is why like i said before this is going to be a monstrosity

01:53:39.260 of a podcast um trilogy of episodes i guess so to speak but uh one thing you can't fake is that you

01:53:47.320 know the agents definitely put the fucking work in you know what i mean these guys were heavily 0.87

01:53:50.400 invested they worked really hard they were able to identify these guys um put links together as you 0.98

01:53:56.060 guys can see and um you know bring the investigation to a close and real quick what i'll do is is i'll

01:54:02.820 show you guys about uh massawi real fast um here is his well here he is right here first okay um

01:54:13.180 zacharias massawi uh is a french member of al-qaeda who pleaded guilty in u.s federal court to

01:54:17.960 conspire to kill u.s citizens of the united states as part of the september 11th attacks

01:54:21.080 i mean large is free out real fast he is serving uh life prison life in prison without parole at

01:54:28.820 the federal adx supermax prison in florence colorado massawi is the only person ever convicted

01:54:33.260 in u.s court in connection with the 9-11 attacks so real quick here's the overview as you guys know

01:54:38.420 what we talked about with the uh fbi minnesota um in charge of immigration violation he aroused

01:54:42.640 suspicion while taking flight courses in egan minnesota on december 11 2001 massawi is indicted by

01:54:48.320 federal grand jury so two months after 9-11 uh no actually three months after 9-11 uh

01:54:54.980 he uh or no two yeah yeah three months my math sucks united state district court for the district

01:55:00.560 of virginia on six felony charges conspiracy to commit acts of terrorism transcending national

01:55:03.980 boundaries conspiracy to commit aircraft piracy conspiracy to destroy aircraft conspiracy to use

01:55:08.300 weapons of mass destruction conspiracy to murder u.s state united states employees and conspiracy to

01:55:12.320 destroy property massawi was alleged by federal prosecutors to have been uh

01:55:17.000 a replacement for the first 20th hijacker possibly ramzi bin al-shibi bin al-shibi and

01:55:23.300 zechariah s uh asabar were denied visas however prosecutors in massawi's drawn out trial in the

01:55:27.800 u.s had difficulty connecting him to the 19 participants okay um so so this is pretty

01:55:34.760 interesting during the trial massawi initially stated that he was not involved in a september 11th

01:55:38.900 tax but that he was planning an attack of his own some al-qaeda members reportedly corroborated

01:55:43.000 massawi's statements to an extent saying that he was involved in a plot other than 9-11 but

01:55:46.860 prosecutors believe that his story had no merit on april 3rd 2006 massawi was found to be eligible

01:55:51.660 for the death

01:56:13.000 document reactif.com

01:56:30.000 so you

01:56:30.020 Thank you.

01:57:00.020 All right, test, test, test, test, test, test.

01:57:11.820 All right, we got a live feed.

01:57:13.000 All right, so sorry about that, guys.

01:57:14.480 Once again, sound issue hit, but we've been working through it.

01:57:17.180 On May 3rd, 2006, a jury decided against the death penalty for Masawi.

01:57:19.760 The next day, he was sentenced to life in prison without parole.

01:57:21.820 As he was let out the courtroom, Masawi clapped his hands and said,

01:57:24.000 America, you lost. I won. I don't know about that, my friend.

01:57:26.640 You got life in prison.

01:57:27.740 So, three jurors of Masawi had only limited knowledge of the September 11th plot,

01:57:31.380 and three described his role in the attack as minor, if he had any role at all.

01:57:35.520 Following the sentencing, Masawi recanted his testimony,

01:57:37.800 stating he was not a member of the September 11, 2001 conspiracy,

01:57:40.800 but part of another al-Qaeda plot, which was not to occur after September 11th,

01:57:46.920 which was to occur.

01:57:48.500 Excuse me.

01:57:48.980 So, yeah, there you go, guys.

01:57:52.140 Zacharias Masawi, the only person that was ever convicted in the U.S. court

01:57:57.000 with connection with the 9-11 attacks.

01:57:59.020 So, yeah, man.

01:58:00.860 And here's the actual indictment here, too, guys.

01:58:03.080 Right?

01:58:03.240 The formal indictment.

01:58:04.880 He was, you know,

01:58:06.080 and that out of the Alex and Jandria division,

01:58:08.220 obviously headquarters,

01:58:09.360 you know, for all these different charges,

01:58:12.400 conspiracy to commit acts of terrorism,

01:58:13.680 transcending national boundaries,

01:58:14.780 conspiracy to commit aircraft piracy,

01:58:16.180 conspiracy to destroy aircraft,

01:58:17.180 conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction,

01:58:19.400 conspiracy to murder United States employees,

01:58:21.200 and conspiracy to destroy property.

01:58:22.300 So, quite a bit of things.

01:58:23.800 And, you know, this is a pretty long indictment,

01:58:25.840 you know,

01:58:26.420 and it's actually there on

01:58:28.600 usdepartmentofjustice.gov

01:58:30.400 if you guys want to look at it.

01:58:31.880 So, but, yeah.

01:58:34.200 Hope you guys enjoyed that podcast, man.

01:58:37.020 Like I said before,

01:58:38.480 9-11 is a sensitive topic to a lot of people,

01:58:40.360 probably the worst terrorist attack in U.S. history.

01:58:42.680 Again, this was the first part

01:58:44.380 of the multiple-part series.

01:58:46.280 We covered the FBI's investigation

01:58:47.780 of the 9-11 attacks.

01:58:48.880 Next, we're going to cover

01:58:49.520 how the CIA tracked and found Bin Laden

01:58:51.200 and eventually killed him.

01:58:52.820 Then we're going to cover

01:58:53.820 what was found at his house, right?

01:58:56.580 All the Bin Laden tapes.

01:58:57.620 Then we're going to go ahead

01:58:58.300 and cover the conspiracy theories

01:59:00.160 around 9-11

01:59:01.320 so that we can give a complete

01:59:03.400 and objective look

01:59:04.300 at the entire event in itself.

01:59:06.860 So, yeah, man.

01:59:07.700 Hope you guys enjoyed that, man.

01:59:09.160 It was a lot of fun for me to do it.

01:59:11.020 And, yeah.

01:59:11.840 Other than that,

01:59:12.180 I'll catch you guys

01:59:12.740 on another episode of FedIt.

01:59:14.260 Peace.

01:59:14.560 I was a special agent

01:59:18.180 with Homeland Security Investigations,

01:59:19.220 okay, guys?

01:59:19.980 HSI.

01:59:20.600 The cases that I did mostly

01:59:21.720 were human smuggling

01:59:23.020 and drug trafficking.

01:59:25.680 No one else has these documents,

01:59:27.640 by the way.

01:59:28.000 Here's what FedIt covered.

01:59:29.740 Dr. Lafredo confirmed

01:59:31.260 lacerations due to stepping on glass.

01:59:35.900 Murder investigations.

01:59:36.960 You see him reaching in his jacket.

01:59:38.020 You don't know.

01:59:39.160 And he's positioning.

01:59:39.860 Been on February 13, 2019.

01:59:41.220 You're facing two counts

01:59:42.720 of two meditative millions.

01:59:44.760 Racketeering and Rico conspiracy.

01:59:46.560 Young slime life

01:59:47.280 here and after referred to

01:59:48.380 as YSL.

01:59:49.100 This is 6'9

01:59:50.220 and then this is

01:59:51.380 Billy Seiko right here.

01:59:52.600 Now, when they first started, guys,

01:59:54.360 6'9 ran with me.

01:59:55.180 I'm a Fed.

01:59:55.680 I'm watching this music video.

01:59:57.420 You know,

01:59:57.980 I'm bobbing my head like, 0.99

01:59:58.760 hey, this shit lit. 0.99

01:59:59.520 But at the same time, 0.99

02:00:00.240 I'm pausing.

02:00:01.020 Oh, wait, who this?

02:00:02.260 Right?

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02:00:06.160 A.K.A. 0.98

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02:00:08.060 In order to stay away

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02:00:10.720 after shooting at

02:00:11.400 King of Diamonds.

02:00:12.120 Miami strip club

02:00:12.760 injured one person.

02:00:13.780 This is the one

02:00:14.420 that's going to...

The Debrief With MyronGainesX - October 28, 2022

Former Fed Explains 9⧸11 & How The FBI Solved It Step By Step!

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